From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  1 00:55:24 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 23:55:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another Sebring Sprite at Auction
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131002282257n7bbeee78g6d3231e954a3cc2e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <710483.93658.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Mike's right.  The 100M built at the factory iis the big dollar car, but a
dealer or owner car with the added LeMans kit can also be listed in the
registry.  Take  a look below, the car at auction is in par. 2:

 1. Anyone who owns a factory built Austin-Healey 100M "Le Mans" can
register
by sending a photocopy of your British Motor Industry Heritage
Trust
Production Record Trace Certificate and the other items listed in
Item 3
below, to the Registry address in California. 
       2, If you have a
post-production, retro-fitted or owner-converted "Le
Mans" you can register it
by sending a description of the "Le Mans"
modifications made to your car,
photos of the car and its chassis and
body numbers and the other items listed
item 3 below, to the Registry
address in California. Minimum modifications to
qualify include a
louvered bonnet and strap, 1-3/4" carburettors, special
inlet
manifolds, cold air box and air tube

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
wrote:

From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another Sebring Sprite at Auction
To: "Michael Carpenter" <lotuspilot at verizon.net>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, March 1, 2010, 1:57 AM

No, that is a converted BN1 with a 100 LeMans kit.  Read it carefully.  This
guy did a super job restoring a BN1 and added a Lemans dealer kit, but no
louvered hood which makes it an expensive BN1.
Mike

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Mon Mar  1 05:30:54 2010
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:30:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5511.1267422588.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.5511.1267422588.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4B8BB37E.7050409@comcast.net>

Frank wrote:
 > Shine? No way, that's against the law.
 > Bodys, they fit real nice all stuffed into a 55 gal drum. ;)

Friends help you move.
Real friends help you move bodies.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar  1 06:19:17 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:19:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question
In-Reply-To: <441250191002282149p20d7e84fnf00328e8fd6e6afc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B8AEB5F.6040309@comcast.net>
	<402188521002281425y6b8e4cb1g7c8a2f0c966638e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU146-W255F5E4FFEFA7384938967AC3C0@phx.gbl>
	<8ACAABB2764D49BD95640F657CFA1463@HomePC>
	<441250191002282149p20d7e84fnf00328e8fd6e6afc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3B4821948CDF4A8CAAFFC5DD383440DC@HomePC>

Now that I think about it, I believe you are right.  Maybe it was just Pintos
that Ford used to incinerate people.

Ya pick yer brand and ya pick yer pyre.

LAD


From: Bill Gilroy
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:49 PM
To: Larry Daniels
Cc: Tom Daughdrill ; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question


I thought the exploding pickup were GMC's with saddlebag tanks outside of the
frame rails.

-g


On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

  Of course, if you own stock in Ford Motor Company, you probably appreciate
  them insulating you from losses due to lawsuits.

  Maybe they learned something from the days of exploding pickups that their
  bean counters decided would be cheaper to incinerate a few more people than
  fix their defective trucks.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar  1 06:38:04 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:38:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <A84F6185-C55E-494E-8BEE-DF7B8EAAE3C6@ado13.com>
References: <BAY112-W119D6868E3C3FE3CCF9581B83D0@phx.gbl>,
	<A84F6185-C55E-494E-8BEE-DF7B8EAAE3C6@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W34321961AC0F1C8B9B9487B83C0@phx.gbl>

That's one of the unfortunate parts of sports ... you can't always win.



It was definitely a high pressure game all the way through.

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> From: millerls at ado13.com
>
> I'm not...
>
> On Feb 28, 2010, at 3:00 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I am so happy!

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar  1 06:45:22 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:45:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <414021.52406.qm@web37604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY112-W119D6868E3C3FE3CCF9581B83D0@phx.gbl>,
	<414021.52406.qm@web37604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W26B6E0427F197454787C08B83C0@phx.gbl>

What do you mean "wrong guys"?!  :)  Look at a map.  We are on top!


Great game for sure.  Different skills were evident.  The USA team had faster
skaters, but we seemed capable of longer passes.


Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:39:16 -0800
>
> This was only the second game that I have ever watched. Holy Cow! Great
playing by both teams. Unfortunatualy, wrong guys won. Still, a great effort
by all.
> Bob Walker
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/28/10, robertduquette at sympatico.ca
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
> > To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Sunday, February 28, 2010, 3:00 PM
> > I am so happy!
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert Duquette
> > Ottawa ON Canada

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar  1 06:49:48 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:49:48 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <6C448B94F5254DF1B60A89B57DC472F3@user8634b3d69b>
References: <BAY112-W119D6868E3C3FE3CCF9581B83D0@phx.gbl><A84F6185-C55E-494E-8BEE-DF7B8EAAE3C6@ado13.com>,
	<4B8AFD9F.4090901@justbrits.com>,
	<6C448B94F5254DF1B60A89B57DC472F3@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W458F106E031B19CBE9EA93B83C0@phx.gbl>

I watched some of the marbles being played.  I must say, I don't get that
game!  :)  Definitely a lot of skill involved, but hammers and steals and who
gets how many points for what had me wondering what was going on!



Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> From: grday at btinternet.com
>
> I am and there's a big pond between us ;o)
>
> We lost with the big slippery granite marbles - sigh!!
>
> Guy R Day
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
>
> > << I'm not... >>
> >
> > Ne neither, Larry !!! <F>

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Mar  1 06:50:48 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 05:50:48 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Hockey!
Message-ID: <9EB338363FC5412AB17EA70874DBC6D0@spider>

A good game is well-played, goes into over-time, and everyone is exhausted
when it ends.   ...bill in oregon
=====================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
robertduquette at sympatico.ca
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:38 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hockey!

That's one of the unfortunate parts of sports ... you can't always win.

It was definitely a high pressure game all the way through.

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
=====================================================
> From: millerls at ado13.com
>
> I'm not...
>
> On Feb 28, 2010, at 3:00 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I am so happy!

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar  1 06:52:16 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:52:16 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <651271.18023.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY112-W119D6868E3C3FE3CCF9581B83D0@phx.gbl>,
	<651271.18023.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W1262E81906F3866038B9DCB83C0@phx.gbl>

Wasn't there a rule at some point that professionals could not compete in
Olympics?

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:40:58 -0800
>
> --- On Sun, 2/28/10, robertduquette at sympatico.ca
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > I am so happy!
>
> Phenomenal game and I love the "cleanliness" of the international style, but
it was a lot more heart-tugging when it wasn't just NHL guys in different
uniforms. Olympic basketball is even more ridiculous.
>
> Ron

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar  1 06:58:01 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:58:01 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question
In-Reply-To: <4B8B1FDA.8010401@comcast.net>
References: <4B8AEB5F.6040309@comcast.net>, ,
	<402188521002281425y6b8e4cb1g7c8a2f0c966638e0@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU146-W255F5E4FFEFA7384938967AC3C0@phx.gbl>,
	<8ACAABB2764D49BD95640F657CFA1463@HomePC>,
	<4B8B19C6.4080308@comcast.net>,
	<0A445ED68A9D4EB394F20ED0D2E3A776@HomePC>,
	<4B8B1FDA.8010401@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W3997400B55C6086E89502AB83C0@phx.gbl>

Wasn't the Rambler the car where the front seat folded back and turned the
interior into a big bed?

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:00:58 -0500
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question
>
> Larry Daniels wrote:
> > So, who do we trust now? GM sucks. Ford sucks and Chrysler has always
> > sucked. Anybody have a Rambler for sale?
> Now there was a car, not alot of style but they lasted forever, got
> decent mileage, fit 6 comfortably
> And you could fit a 55 gallon drum in the truck.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  1 08:10:08 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:10:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1002281902n36f07bb8r2eb9034dc628f674@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <582911.17724.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

-- On Sun, 2/28/10, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> We have to
remember why they let the
> pros play.  Canada and the US got tired
> of
loosing to everyone else's (especially the Soviets)
> pros. Once we let our
>
pros in things leveled off. 

...and so went any shred of credibility to the
phrase "it's not whether you win or lose..."

Ron

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar  1 08:27:50 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 09:27:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W3997400B55C6086E89502AB83C0@phx.gbl>
References: <4B8AEB5F.6040309@comcast.net>,
	, <402188521002281425y6b8e4cb1g7c8a2f0c966638e0@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BLU146-W255F5E4FFEFA7384938967AC3C0@phx.gbl>,
	<8ACAABB2764D49BD95640F657CFA1463@HomePC>,
	<4B8B19C6.4080308@comcast.net>,
	<0A445ED68A9D4EB394F20ED0D2E3A776@HomePC>,
	<4B8B1FDA.8010401@comcast.net>
	<BAY112-W3997400B55C6086E89502AB83C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9819058413E542BD9D0D79774E0B69FA@HomePC>

Yep.  My mother grew up in Kenosha where they were made, so we had one when 
I was very young.

Would have been a great car for dating, but they weren't "cool".  ;-)

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:58 AM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question

Wasn't the Rambler the car where the front seat folded back and turned the
interior into a big bed?

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Mar  1 08:36:51 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:36:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <6C448B94F5254DF1B60A89B57DC472F3@user8634b3d69b>
References: <BAY112-W119D6868E3C3FE3CCF9581B83D0@phx.gbl>
	<A84F6185-C55E-494E-8BEE-DF7B8EAAE3C6@ado13.com>
	<4B8AFD9F.4090901@justbrits.com>
	<6C448B94F5254DF1B60A89B57DC472F3@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <201003010736298.SM01188@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Guy, I was pulling for your guys, once ours were out, which was about 
the second end.......of their first game. Big disappointment here in 
US Curling land.
         Oh well.   I'm off for a few games today.
Peter C
==
At 05:54 PM 2/28/2010, Guy R Day wrote:
>I am and there's a big pond between us  ;o)
>
>We lost with the big slippery granite marbles - sigh!!
>
>Guy R Day

From davriker at nwi.net  Mon Mar  1 08:55:48 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:55:48 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question
References: <4B8AEB5F.6040309@comcast.net><402188521002281425y6b8e4cb1g7c8a2f0c966638e0@mail.gmail.com><BLU146-W255F5E4FFEFA7384938967AC3C0@phx.gbl><8ACAABB2764D49BD95640F657CFA1463@HomePC><441250191002282149p20d7e84fnf00328e8fd6e6afc@mail.gmail.com>
	<3B4821948CDF4A8CAAFFC5DD383440DC@HomePC>
Message-ID: <45B3D4E9E8BF44748F3858A672EEF87F@MAIN>

Pinto was just the first car to be publicly flogged for having an exploding 
gas tank, however, all Ford compact and mid-size from the '60's had drop in 
gas tanks.  They figured out if the gas tank was installed from above and 
lowered into the trunk, they could save labor, speed production, and the gas 
tank doubled as the trunk floor.  The fuel filler then either came up and 
above the bumper, centered in the rear panel, or was hidden behind the 
license plate.  This design was used in the Falcon, Comet, Fairlane, 
Cyclone, Torino, Mustang, and Cougar.  In a rear end collision, the tank 
would rupture, and spray gasoline on the rear seatback, which was basically 
burlap and cotton.  As soon as there was any spark, the fuel soaked seat 
would catch fire and incinerate all passengers.  The Pinto was actually 
safer, as the fuel tank was mounted below the luggage compartment and 
outside of the vehicle, however, due to it's compact dimensions, the rear 
leaf spring was notorious for pucnturing the tank in a collision, and 
documents were uncovered that showed a plate installed between the spring 
perch and the tank reduced the likely hood of the puncture.  It was Ford 
Motor's knowledge of the design "flaw" and the decision not to modify it due 
to cost savings that led to the lawsuits on the Pinto.

As for the Chevrolet with side saddle mounted fuel tanks, at the time of the 
design, this was an improvement in safetey.  The 1967-1973 Chevrolet pickups 
had the fuel tank mounted INSIDE the cab behind the seatback (also very 
common for this time period, I believe Ford and Dodge tanks were in the cab 
too).  In a rear end collision, the truck bed would be smashed into the cab 
(this is before crumple zones) and the tank could split open and spray the 
occupants with fuel.  The 1974 redesign moved the fuel tanks out of the cab 
and mounted them below the truck, just outside of the frame rails.  The 
design met all safety and crash standards in place for 1974.  The 
controversy was that Dateline filmed a truck being hit broadside, and their 
producers wanted to insure a dramatic explosion, so they mounted incidiary 
devices in the truck and on cue, blew it up in front of the cameras.

I am always amazed at how increadibly reliable and low maintenance current 
automobiles REALY are, I mean in just the last few posts we warned a newbie 
about pinning thrust bearings to make sure his 50,000 mile engine didn't 
self destruct.  I mean really?  When is the last time somebody said, hey, 
you know, you better rebuild your 50,000 mile engine?  Our memories seem to 
be pretty short when it comes to just how crappy ALL cars were 40 years ago. 
Drum brakes used to need adjusted every 3000 miles, and re-lined every 
10,000 miles.  Valve jobs used to be necessary at 50,000 miles, and often a 
ring job too.  Shocks lasted 20,000 miles, and don't get me started on those 
Polyester bias ply tires.  There is a reason all the corner gas stations 
converted their service bays into Pepsi coolers, and it isn't that the cars 
are more complex (although they are) IT IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T BREAK DOWN 
LIKE THEY USED TO.

Off my soap box now...
David R.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Bill Gilroy" <wmgilroy at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question


> Now that I think about it, I believe you are right.  Maybe it was just 
> Pintos
> that Ford used to incinerate people.
>
> Ya pick yer brand and ya pick yer pyre.
>
> LAD
>
>
> From: Bill Gilroy
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 11:49 PM
> To: Larry Daniels
> Cc: Tom Daughdrill ; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question
>
>
> I thought the exploding pickup were GMC's with saddlebag tanks outside of 
> the
> frame rails.


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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 09:08:26 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:08:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <582911.17724.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <43840a7e1002281902n36f07bb8r2eb9034dc628f674@mail.gmail.com>
	<582911.17724.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003010808h3120a2f9q640091dbe61526bf@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 9:10 AM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> ...and so went any shred of credibility to the
> phrase "it's not whether you win or lose..."
>

There are several versions of that quote, Ron...

Mary Ashton Livermore: "Whoever said, '*It's not whether you win or
lose*that counts.' probably lost."

Oscar Wilde. *It's not whether you win or lose*, *it's* how *you* place the
blame.

Vince Lombardi. "*It's not whether you win or lose, it's whether you win."

Daffynition:  *Curling - *A cross between shuffle board, chess, and house
keeping.    ;-)**
*
--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 10:22:25 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:22:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W1262E81906F3866038B9DCB83C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W119D6868E3C3FE3CCF9581B83D0@phx.gbl>
	<651271.18023.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W1262E81906F3866038B9DCB83C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188521003010922t1b440b72y646879136b18dd85@mail.gmail.com>

> Wasn't there a rule at some point that professionals could not compete in
> Olympics?

Yes. Let me quote the Wikipedia article on Jim Thorpe:

Jacobus Franciscus "Jim" Thorpe (Sac and Fox (Sauk): Wa-Tho-Huk) (May
28, 1888  March 28, 1953)[1] was an American athlete. Considered one
of the most versatile athletes in modern sports, he won Olympic gold
medals in the 1912 pentathlon and decathlon, played American football
at the collegiate and professional levels, and also played
professional baseball and basketball. He lost his Olympic titles after
it was found he was paid for playing two seasons of semi-professional
baseball before competing in the Olympics, thus violating the amateur
status rules.

Ridiculous. If the Olympics are supposed to be showing the best in the
world, why should it be limited to those who could not qualify for a
team?
David L

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Mar  1 10:33:12 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:33:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <582911.17724.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <582911.17724.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <724C021B-8BC6-4D15-89B4-5288A790BABC@comcast.net>

Yeah but people used the tiniest thing to say that one was a  
professional.  A fencer was kicked out of a championship because  
someone else paid for her cab fair to get to the tournament..

Lester


On Mar 1, 2010, at 9:10 AM, Ron Soave wrote:

> -- On Sun, 2/28/10, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We have to
> remember why they let the
>> pros play.  Canada and the US got tired
>> of
> loosing to everyone else's (especially the Soviets)
>> pros. Once we let our
>>
> pros in things leveled off.
>
> ...and so went any shred of credibility to the
> phrase "it's not whether you win or lose..."
>
> Ron
>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 10:37:11 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:37:11 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <402188521003010922t1b440b72y646879136b18dd85@mail.gmail.com>
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Yet another reason the Olympics are a joke.
I don't like guys who win gold in a sport they invented less than a
generation ago.
1980 hockey win was awesome because our amateurs beat Russian pros.
They need to change the name from "Olympics" or go back to the classic
sports and please stop having them every other year.
The magic and prestige of the Olympics was lost somewhere along the
way as was the honor of the Nobel Peace Prize, IMHO.
We still have the World Cup, though, as a true global sports event.




>
> Ridiculous. If the Olympics are supposed to be showing the best in the
> world, why should it be limited to those who could not qualify for a
> team?
> David L

From lincman90 at hotmail.com  Mon Mar  1 10:39:18 2010
From: lincman90 at hotmail.com (Tom Daughdrill)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:39:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 97 Mercury Sable, no LBC But a car question
In-Reply-To: <45B3D4E9E8BF44748F3858A672EEF87F@MAIN>
References: <4B8AEB5F.6040309@comcast.net><402188521002281425y6b8e4cb1g7c8a2f0c966638e0@mail.gmail.com><BLU146-W255F5E4FFEFA7384938967AC3C0@phx.gbl><8ACAABB2764D49BD95640F657CFA1463@HomePC><441250191002282149p20d7e84fnf00328e8fd6e6afc@mail.gmail.com>,
	<3B4821948CDF4A8CAAFFC5DD383440DC@HomePC>,
	<45B3D4E9E8BF44748F3858A672EEF87F@MAIN>
Message-ID: <BLU146-W24B6F76B0A593695FA78F5AC3C0@phx.gbl>

 The pickup truck fuel tanks were the GM trucks, as Ford relocated their tanks
to inside the frame rails.



I was selling Fords during the "Exploder" times, and it was indeed Firestone's
fault.  Granted, FoMoCo did recommend a higher tire pressure than they should
have, but many of those cars were also built with Michelin tires, with the
same pressure recommendation, and there were no problems with those vehicles.
Guess things weren't so pleasant at the next "Ford-Firestone" family
reunion...



But, my Midget doesn't have exploding tires or fuel tank today, and I would be
driving it today if it weren't for bad weather!

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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 10:46:10 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:46:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <724C021B-8BC6-4D15-89B4-5288A790BABC@comcast.net>
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	<724C021B-8BC6-4D15-89B4-5288A790BABC@comcast.net>
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We dominate basketball and baseball and football because of our
economy.  If other countries paid so much to professional athletes
maybe there would be some world wide competition.  Our soccer program
is still young and so we lag behind in that area.  Jerry Jones may
think that the Cowboys are the most valuable sports franchise but I
bet Manchester United is worth more.
Canada's hockey takes advantage of our economy as the NHL crosses the
border.  Therefore, Canada is competitive in hockey.
Don't let anyone fool you, it is not about competition, it is about MONEY.
Capitalism is good, but we need to recognize it when we see it.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar  1 11:02:07 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:02:07 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9911003010946p2d0734cdte89d763fbfa778bd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <582911.17724.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<724C021B-8BC6-4D15-89B4-5288A790BABC@comcast.net>,
	<5f00d9911003010946p2d0734cdte89d763fbfa778bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W165B032CDFF101941A4749B83C0@phx.gbl>

You could say that another way.  What hockey team would you have if you didn't
have the NHL to draw from?



NHL players come from all over.  I'm not really sure if "all" the olympic
teams had NHL players in them, but for sure Canada, the USA, Sweden and Russia
do and I think Finland does.


> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:46:10 -0600
> From: derf247 at gmail.com
>

...
> Canada's hockey takes advantage of our economy as the NHL crosses the
> border. Therefore, Canada is competitive in hockey.
> Don't let anyone fool you, it is not about competition, it is about MONEY.
> Capitalism is good, but we need to recognize it when we see it.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 12:04:50 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:04:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W165B032CDFF101941A4749B83C0@phx.gbl>
References: <582911.17724.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, 
	<724C021B-8BC6-4D15-89B4-5288A790BABC@comcast.net>,
	<5f00d9911003010946p2d0734cdte89d763fbfa778bd@mail.gmail.com> 
	<BAY112-W165B032CDFF101941A4749B83C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7308204540371377279@unknownmsgid>

Well, Chicago was in a win/win/win situation with players on three of
the teams in the Olympics.
David L

On Mar 1, 2010, at 12:02, "robertduquette at sympatico.ca"
<robertduquette at sympatico.ca
 > wrote:

> You could say that another way.  What hockey team would you have if
> you didn't
> have the NHL to draw from?
>
>
>
> NHL players come from all over.  I'm not really sure if "all" the
> olympic
> teams had NHL players in them, but for sure Canada, the USA, Sweden
> and Russia
> do and I think Finland does.
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:46:10 -0600
>> From: derf247 at gmail.com
>>
>
> ...
>> Canada's hockey takes advantage of our economy as the NHL crosses the
>> border. Therefore, Canada is competitive in hockey.
>> Don't let anyone fool you, it is not about competition, it is about
>> MONEY.
>> Capitalism is good, but we need to recognize it when we see it.
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 12:47:21 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 13:47:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
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References: <582911.17724.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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All of them had NHL players on the team...  Some more than others but all
had NHL players.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 12:02 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> You could say that another way.  What hockey team would you have if you
> didn't
> have the NHL to draw from?
>
>
>
> NHL players come from all over.  I'm not really sure if "all" the olympic
> teams had NHL players in them, but for sure Canada, the USA, Sweden and
> Russia
> do and I think Finland does.
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 11:46:10 -0600
> > From: derf247 at gmail.com
> >
>
> ...
> > Canada's hockey takes advantage of our economy as the NHL crosses the
> > border. Therefore, Canada is competitive in hockey.
> > Don't let anyone fool you, it is not about competition, it is about
> MONEY.
> > Capitalism is good, but we need to recognize it when we see it.
>
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Mon Mar  1 12:48:10 2010
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:48:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts for sale!!!
Message-ID: <73C10D69-9BA2-4FB7-9184-FA4DE1579FBE@hoppetool.com>

Guys I have a 4 speed ribcase that's in good condition, first gear  
pops out of gear when you let off the gas after hard accel, it could  
be something different but we just put in a datsun tranny in for  
higher speeds,

I also have 2 axles labeled en 17 I believe they are hardened, but not  
the competition axles

I also have a welded 4.22 that's been lightly used, I bought a tran-x  
LSD 4.22 instead.

I think I have more parts as well, let me know if you want something  
different, make an offer on these parts as well!!

Also if anyone has a jaguar xke let me know, we now offer performance  
twin plug heads for the online 6!!!!

Sincerely,

Matt Hagopian

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar  1 13:08:23 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:08:23 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
Message-ID: <240d4.70bc0d06.38bd78b7@aol.com>

Is this American football than only Americans play and thus dominate or do  
you mean Association Football which the rest of the world and America  play?
 
Enquiring minds want to know...
 
 
 
In a message dated 01/03/2010 17:52:49 GMT Standard Time, derf247 at gmail.com 
 writes:

We  dominate basketball and baseball and football 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar  1 13:09:20 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:09:20 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Was "Car Hauler Tires" now generalized bitch thread.
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"Sometimes ED"??



I thought he was "Just ED"?  ;)






> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:04:49 -0500
> I do deal with Paul, Peter and sometimes Ed and I am extremely glad they
> are the way they are because they know the score.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> buy American, the job you save will be your kin's

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar  1 13:09:31 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:09:31 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
Message-ID: <2425d.40778bdb.38bd78fb@aol.com>

I'd like to have a women's hockey team but aside from being married I'm 46  
so not as young as I was..
 
In a message dated 01/03/2010 18:07:43 GMT Standard Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

What  hockey team would you have if you didn't
have the NHL to draw  from?

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Mar  1 13:16:28 2010
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:16:28 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership]
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Subject: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership

o;? 







Obama's new Attorney General, Eric Holder, has already said this is one of his major issues. 
He does not believe the 2ndAmendment gives individuals the right to bear arms. 
This takes literally 2 clicks to complete.   
Please vote on this gun issue question with USA Today.  
It will only take a few seconds of your time.  
Then pass the link on to all the pro gun folks you know.   
Hopefully these results will be published later this month. 
This upcoming year will become critical for gun owners with the Supreme Court's accepting the District of Columbia  case against the right for individuals to bear arms. 

Here's what you need to do:

First - vote on this one.

Second - launch it to other folks and have THEM vote - then we will see if the results get published.

The Question is: "Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to bear arms?"


Click on the link below and PLEASE vote Yes!

USATODAY.com - Quick Question 		 	   		  
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 13:18:08 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:18:08 -0600
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> Also if anyone has a jaguar xke let me know, we now offer
> performance twin plug heads for the online 6!!!!

That would be the virtual engine?
David L

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Mar  1 13:39:13 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:39:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
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it's bad enough that the guys have no front teeth, might not be as  
attractive as you think..  ;-)

Lester


On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:09 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> I'd like to have a women's hockey team but aside from being married  
> I'm 46
> so not as young as I was..
>
> In a message dated 01/03/2010 18:07:43 GMT Standard Time,
> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
>
> What  hockey team would you have if you didn't
> have the NHL to draw  from?
>
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Mar  1 13:41:48 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:41:48 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership]
In-Reply-To: <4B8C209C.6050603@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <463486.25751.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

The season of paranoia is upon us.

A subject of debate at the highest scholarly level and now we are going to
have people on sports car lists weigh-in.

I'd rather be driving my car.

PS The link didn't bring me to the question. It jammed.

jay

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
Obama's new Attorney General, Eric Holder, has already said this is one of his
major issues.
He does not believe the 2ndAmendment gives individuals the right to bear arms.
This takes literally 2 clicks to complete.   
Please vote on this gun issue question with USA Today. 
It will only take a few seconds of your time. 
Then pass the link on to all the pro gun folks you know.   
Hopefully these results will be published later this month.
This upcoming year will become critical for gun owners with the Supreme
Court's accepting the District of Columbia  case against the right for
individuals to bear arms.

Here's what you need to do:

First - vote on this one.

Second - launch it to other folks and have THEM vote - then we will see if the
results get published.

The Question is: "Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to bear
arms?"


Click on the link below and PLEASE vote Yes!

USATODAY.com - Quick Question          

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 13:49:16 2010
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:49:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership]
In-Reply-To: <463486.25751.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <4B8C209C.6050603@frontiernet.net>
	<463486.25751.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Paranoia is correct. The Holder justice department basically holds the
same view that the Reagan and 1st Bush justice department held (and
Nixon, and Ford, and Ike...).  Obama ain't gunna take your guns (or
mine).

It is just like the Clinton administration all over again.  I am
waiting for the made up Janet Reno quotes to be recycled with Obama
administration names attached to begin making the rounds.

Brian

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> The season of paranoia is upon us.
>
> A subject of debate at the highest scholarly level and now we are going to
> have people on sports car lists weigh-in.
>
> I'd rather be driving my car.
>
> PS The link didn't bring me to the question. It jammed.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Mon, 3/1/10, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Obama's new Attorney General, Eric Holder, has already said this is one of
his
> major issues.
> He does not believe the 2ndAmendment gives individuals the right to bear
arms.
> This takes literally 2 clicks to complete.
> Please vote on this gun issue question with USA Today.
> It will only take a few seconds of your time.
> Then pass the link on to all the pro gun folks you know.
> Hopefully these results will be published later this month.
> This upcoming year will become critical for gun owners with the Supreme
> Court's accepting the District of Columbia  case against the right for
> individuals to bear arms.
>
> Here's what you need to do:
>
> First - vote on this one.
>
> Second - launch it to other folks and have THEM vote - then we will see if
the
> results get published.
>
> The Question is: "Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to
bear
> arms?"
>
>
> Click on the link below and PLEASE vote Yes!
>
> USATODAY.com - Quick Question
>
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Mar  1 13:51:51 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:51:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership]
In-Reply-To: <abb8688a1003011248k18969622x6c827258a1dfd290@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <971850.6119.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Apparently, the gun lobby is in a tizzy because the administration wants to reinstate the ban on assault rifles that expired in '04.

jay

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:


I think this is an OLD story, I seem to recall this poll from a couple
years ago. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-02-26-guns-cover_N.htm

From mgraziano at austin.rr.com  Mon Mar  1 14:12:59 2010
From: mgraziano at austin.rr.com (Michael Graziano)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:12:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Shirts For Sale - are yours in tatters yet?
Message-ID: <084601cab983$f9135ad0$eb3a1070$@rr.com>

Hey everyone,

 

As some of you might know, I sold my Midget a while back, right around the
time my daughter was born.  I just couldn't continue arguing with my wife
over it.

 

Anyway, I still have 106 spridget shirts sitting in boxes upstairs, which I
need to get rid of.  It's been two years since I last sold any, so a bunch
of you might need a new one by now.  

 

I have 10 small, 4 medium, 21 Large, 55 extra large, 14 XXL, and 2 4XL in
White, Red, Yellow, a manly aqua, black and tan/beige.  I'm hoping a bunch
of you need XL.  Cost is $23 including shipping.  Actual quantities as of
this morning are on the website.

 

The shirts can be seen and ordered on my website:

 

http://www.thehomeretreat.com/ProductPage.aspx?productid=1109

 

Again, I'm selling these at cost.  They're really nice shirts made from an
excellent material.  The spridgets logo is embroidered in color on the
front.  Some of the red and black have the OSHIT logos on the back.  If you
specifically want an OSHIT, please let me know in the comments and I'll try
to accommodate you.  First come, first served, especially in the smaller
sizes.

 

They make great x-mas presents for your favorite gearhead.  

 

Thanks everyone for some good times and great friendships.

 

Best,

 

Michael Graziano

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 14:37:02 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:37:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <A269AF77-9212-4AE7-9497-13072FE7EDDC@comcast.net>
References: <2425d.40778bdb.38bd78fb@aol.com>
	<A269AF77-9212-4AE7-9497-13072FE7EDDC@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003011337vcd75969r452b0130077b86c7@mail.gmail.com>

That was back in my days, Lester.  Nowadays they all have high dollar custom
fit mouth pieces...   Heck...  I was a goal tender. In those days we didn't
wear masks...   Those who have met me can vouch for that...    ;-)

Cheers!
Jim

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> it's bad enough that the guys have no front teeth, might not be as
> attractive as you think..  ;-)
>
> Lester
>
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:09 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>
>  I'd like to have a women's hockey team but aside from being married I'm 46
>> so not as young as I was..
>>
>> In a message dated 01/03/2010 18:07:43 GMT Standard Time,
>> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
>>
>> What  hockey team would you have if you didn't
>> have the NHL to draw  from?
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Mar  1 14:46:10 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 13:46:10 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership
In-Reply-To: <BAY129-W254569D2E36E6A9F859286AA3C0@phx.gbl>
References: <73CD7A7D4A6C44DD97B4B7EE7024CD44@kathy1df3a8070>
	<BAY129-W254569D2E36E6A9F859286AA3C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B8C35A2.3060900@frontiernet.net>

> *Subject:* US Today Poll on Gun Ownership
>
> o;?
>
> Obama's new Attorney General, Eric Holder, has already said this is 
> one of his major issues. 
>
> He does not believe the 2^nd Amendment gives individuals the right to 
> bear arms. 
>
> This takes literally 2 clicks to complete.  
>
> Please vote on this gun issue question with USA Today. 
>
> It will only take a few seconds of your time. 
>
> Then pass the link on to all the pro gun folks you know.  
>
> Hopefully these results will be published later this month.
>
> This upcoming year will become critical for gun owners with 
> the Supreme Court's accepting the District of Columbia  case against 
> the right for individuals to bear arms. 
>
> Here's what you need to do:
>
> First - vote on this one.
>
> Second - launch it to other folks and have THEM vote - then we will 
> see if the results get published.
>
> The Question is: "Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right 
> to bear arms?"
>
>
> Click on the link below and PLEASE vote Yes!
>
> _USATODAY.com - Quick Question 
> <http://www.usatoday.com/news/quickquestion/2007/november/popup5895.htm>_
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. 
> <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/>

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Mar  1 14:47:44 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 21:47:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003011337vcd75969r452b0130077b86c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <708555694.4564121267480064657.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

okay jim what haven't you done? 
We know you are a former NOAA weather man and BMW motorcycle afficionado (back and forth to Alaska 2x? by bike?), hockey player and guitar player. Can you give us or at least me a list of all the different hobbies and careers? give me something to strive for... 
ryan 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com> 
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 4:37:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hockey! 

That was back in my days, Lester. Nowadays they all have high dollar custom 
fit mouth pieces... Heck... I was a goal tender. In those days we didn't 
wear masks... Those who have met me can vouch for that... ;-) 

Cheers! 
Jim 

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote: 

> it's bad enough that the guys have no front teeth, might not be as 
> attractive as you think.. ;-) 
> 
> Lester 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:09 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: 
> 
> I'd like to have a women's hockey team but aside from being married I'm 46 
>> so not as young as I was.. 
>> 
>> In a message dated 01/03/2010 18:07:43 GMT Standard Time, 
>> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: 
>> 
>> What hockey team would you have if you didn't 
>> have the NHL to draw from? 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________ 
>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html 
>> 
>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 
>> 
>> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net 
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> 
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> 
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-- 
Cheers!! 
Jim 
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a 
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress." 
John Adams 
US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826) 

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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 14:55:46 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:55:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership
In-Reply-To: <4B8C35A2.3060900@frontiernet.net>
References: <73CD7A7D4A6C44DD97B4B7EE7024CD44@kathy1df3a8070>
	<BAY129-W254569D2E36E6A9F859286AA3C0@phx.gbl>
	<4B8C35A2.3060900@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <402188521003011355p7c479963lfddff3a4aebe2125@mail.gmail.com>

Kate,
Please note in the URL you provided that this was the "Quick Question"
in November of 2007.
Not exactly current?
David L

Also note that I was prepared to cast my vote on the issue or I would
not have noticed this.



On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> *Subject:* US Today Poll on Gun Ownership
>>
>> o;?
>>
>> Obama's new Attorney General, Eric Holder, has already said this is
>> one of his major issues.
>>
>> He does not believe the 2^nd Amendment gives individuals the right to
>> bear arms.
>>
>> This takes literally 2 clicks to complete.
>>
>> Please vote on this gun issue question with USA Today.
>>
>> It will only take a few seconds of your time.
>>
>> Then pass the link on to all the pro gun folks you know.
>>
>> Hopefully these results will be published later this month.
>>
>> This upcoming year will become critical for gun owners with
>> the Supreme Court's accepting the District of Columbia  case against
>> the right for individuals to bear arms.
>>
>> Here's what you need to do:
>>
>> First - vote on this one.
>>
>> Second - launch it to other folks and have THEM vote - then we will
>> see if the results get published.
>>
>> The Question is: "Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right
>> to bear arms?"
>>
>>
>> Click on the link below and PLEASE vote Yes!
>>
>> _USATODAY.com - Quick Question
>> <http://www.usatoday.com/news/quickquestion/2007/november/popup5895.htm>_
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now.
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>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 14:56:12 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:56:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <708555694.4564121267480064657.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <43840a7e1003011337vcd75969r452b0130077b86c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<708555694.4564121267480064657.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003011356m485b8256g3ab61d7b57b1d87d@mail.gmail.com>

Can't do it Ryan...  I would loose my CIA Q clearance...    ;-)

Seriously, my life long philosophy has been to try as many things in life as
possible.  I got to do a lot of stuff and go a lot of places when I was in
the military...  Jumping out of airplanes, sleeping with my eyes open while
standing up in the SE Asia monsoon, flying, riding motorcycles everywhere I
could think of, racing, SCUBA and many other pursuits. Only a little of this
stuff was at a professional level but I still have a bucket list that will
never get finished...     And that's the way I like it!  Jack of all trades,
master of none...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:47 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:

> okay jim what haven't you done?
> We know you are a former NOAA weather man and BMW motorcycle afficionado
> (back and forth to Alaska 2x? by bike?), hockey player and guitar player.
> Can you give us or at least me a list of all the different hobbies and
> careers?  give me something to strive for...
> ryan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 4:37:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hockey!
>
> That was back in my days, Lester.  Nowadays they all have high dollar
> custom
> fit mouth pieces...   Heck...  I was a goal tender. In those days we didn't
> wear masks...   Those who have met me can vouch for that...    ;-)
>
> Cheers!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > it's bad enough that the guys have no front teeth, might not be as
> > attractive as you think..  ;-)
> >
> > Lester
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:09 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> >  I'd like to have a women's hockey team but aside from being married I'm
> 46
> >> so not as young as I was..
> >>
> >> In a message dated 01/03/2010 18:07:43 GMT Standard Time,
> >> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
> >>
> >> What  hockey team would you have if you didn't
> >> have the NHL to draw  from?
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >>
> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75
> >>
> >> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.team.net/archive
> >>
> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
> > Suggested annual donation $12.75
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
> shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
>        John Adams
>        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
>
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Mon Mar  1 14:58:17 2010
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:58:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [PolySci_101] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership
In-Reply-To: <4B8C35A2.3060900@frontiernet.net>
References: <73CD7A7D4A6C44DD97B4B7EE7024CD44@kathy1df3a8070>
	<BAY129-W254569D2E36E6A9F859286AA3C0@phx.gbl>
	<4B8C35A2.3060900@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <00ba01cab98a$4f01bda0$ed0538e0$@net>

Give it up Kate-this is over a year old. The case was decided in 2008 in favor
of the gun people.

District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. ___ (2008) was a landmark legal case
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_case>  in which the Supreme Court of the
United States
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States>  held that
the Second Amendment to
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitut
ion>  the United States Constitution protects an individual's right
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right>  to possess a firearm
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm>  for private use in federal enclaves
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_enclaves> . The decision did not address
the question of whether the Second Amendment extends beyond federal enclaves
to the states.[1]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller#cite_note-0>  It
was the first Supreme Court case in United States history to decide whether
the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms for
self defense.[2]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller#cite_note-1>

Herb Miller



From: polysci_101-bounces at justbrits.com
[mailto:polysci_101-bounces at justbrits.com] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bales
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 3:46 PM
To: Poly-Sci List
Cc: Spridgets; Assn
Subject: Re: [PolySci_101] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership








Subject: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership

o;?

Obama's new Attorney General, Eric Holder, has already said this is one of his
major issues.

He does not believe the 2ndAmendment gives individuals the right to bear arms.

This takes literally 2 clicks to complete.

Please vote on this gun issue question with USA Today.

It will only take a few seconds of your time.

Then pass the link on to all the pro gun folks you know.

Hopefully these results will be published later this month.

This upcoming year will become critical for gun owners with the Supreme
Court's accepting the District of Columbia  case against the right for
individuals to bear arms.

Here's what you need to do:

First - vote on this one.

Second - launch it to other folks and have THEM vote - then we will see if the
results get published.

The Question is: "Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right to bear
arms?"


Click on the link below and PLEASE vote Yes!

USATODAY.com
<http://www.usatoday.com/news/quickquestion/2007/november/popup5895.htm>  -
Quick Question



  _____

Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it
<http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/>  now.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Mar  1 15:02:51 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:02:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003011356m485b8256g3ab61d7b57b1d87d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e1003011337vcd75969r452b0130077b86c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<708555694.4564121267480064657.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<43840a7e1003011356m485b8256g3ab61d7b57b1d87d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DA70EB89-D2F8-451A-BCC1-BB543896818F@comcast.net>

The bulk of my bucket list items are beyond my financial means!  if  
any of you kind folk want to sponsor me in a Dakar please send cash  
donations!

Lester


On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Can't do it Ryan...  I would loose my CIA Q clearance...    ;-)
>
> Seriously, my life long philosophy has been to try as many things in  
> life as
> possible.  I got to do a lot of stuff and go a lot of places when I  
> was in
> the military...  Jumping out of airplanes, sleeping with my eyes  
> open while
> standing up in the SE Asia monsoon, flying, riding motorcycles  
> everywhere I
> could think of, racing, SCUBA and many other pursuits. Only a little  
> of this
> stuff was at a professional level but I still have a bucket list  
> that will
> never get finished...     And that's the way I like it!  Jack of all  
> trades,
> master of none...
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:47 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> okay jim what haven't you done?
>> We know you are a former NOAA weather man and BMW motorcycle  
>> afficionado
>> (back and forth to Alaska 2x? by bike?), hockey player and guitar  
>> player.
>> Can you give us or at least me a list of all the different hobbies  
>> and
>> careers?  give me something to strive for...
>> ryan

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar  1 15:08:04 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:08:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003011337vcd75969r452b0130077b86c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2425d.40778bdb.38bd78fb@aol.com>,
	<A269AF77-9212-4AE7-9497-13072FE7EDDC@comcast.net>,
	<43840a7e1003011337vcd75969r452b0130077b86c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W1852DF139FBCF60F3B6400B83C0@phx.gbl>

No, they're still missing teeth.



I had heard that the object of the game was to hit the goalie in the neck, but
now they wear neck guards.???  ;)

> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:37:02 -0600
>
> That was back in my days, Lester. Nowadays they all have high dollar custom
> fit mouth pieces... Heck... I was a goal tender. In those days we didn't
> wear masks... Those who have met me can vouch for that... ;-)
>
> Cheers!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > it's bad enough that the guys have no front teeth, might not be as
> > attractive as you think.. ;-)
> >
> > Lester
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:09 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to have a women's hockey team but aside from being married I'm
46
> >> so not as young as I was..
> >>
> >> In a message dated 01/03/2010 18:07:43 GMT Standard Time,
> >> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
> >>
> >> What hockey team would you have if you didn't
> >> have the NHL to draw from?

From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Mar  1 15:08:54 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:08:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership
In-Reply-To: <402188521003011355p7c479963lfddff3a4aebe2125@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <411596.55118.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I bet a few people before me realized you can vote more than once. Maybe something close to 5,848,022 people. :-)

jay

--- On Mon, 3/1/10, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:



Kate,
Please note in the URL you provided that this was the "Quick Question"
in November of 2007.
Not exactly current?
David L

Also note that I was prepared to cast my vote on the issue or I would
not have noticed this.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 15:21:13 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:21:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <DA70EB89-D2F8-451A-BCC1-BB543896818F@comcast.net>
References: <43840a7e1003011337vcd75969r452b0130077b86c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<708555694.4564121267480064657.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<43840a7e1003011356m485b8256g3ab61d7b57b1d87d@mail.gmail.com>
	<DA70EB89-D2F8-451A-BCC1-BB543896818F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003011421vd243f7cx170d91c7b031ec69@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah...  I've got a lot of those too.  I'll send you a dime if you send me
one   ;-)

Age is another limiting factor.  I guess I won't get to walk on the moon.
And flying an F16 is probably out of the question now, too....     Tell ya
what...   You run the Paris to Dakar in a 4x4 and I'll go along with you an
a motorcycle...    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> The bulk of my bucket list items are beyond my financial means!  if
> any of you kind folk want to sponsor me in a Dakar please send cash
> donations!
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:56 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> > Can't do it Ryan...  I would loose my CIA Q clearance...    ;-)
> >
> > Seriously, my life long philosophy has been to try as many things in
> > life as
> > possible.  I got to do a lot of stuff and go a lot of places when I
> > was in
> > the military...  Jumping out of airplanes, sleeping with my eyes
> > open while
> > standing up in the SE Asia monsoon, flying, riding motorcycles
> > everywhere I
> > could think of, racing, SCUBA and many other pursuits. Only a little
> > of this
> > stuff was at a professional level but I still have a bucket list
> > that will
> > never get finished...     And that's the way I like it!  Jack of all
> > trades,
> > master of none...
> >
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 3:47 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> okay jim what haven't you done?
> >> We know you are a former NOAA weather man and BMW motorcycle
> >> afficionado
> >> (back and forth to Alaska 2x? by bike?), hockey player and guitar
> >> player.
> >> Can you give us or at least me a list of all the different hobbies
> >> and
> >> careers?  give me something to strive for...
> >> ryan
>
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From pchast at francomm.com  Mon Mar  1 16:12:45 2010
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:12:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003011337vcd75969r452b0130077b86c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2425d.40778bdb.38bd78fb@aol.com>
	<A269AF77-9212-4AE7-9497-13072FE7EDDC@comcast.net>
	<43840a7e1003011337vcd75969r452b0130077b86c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.u8wv3jursjevdj@pete200>

Hi,

Jim you must be older than I. In '69 and 70 we had masks
for the college team's goalie but they weren't much. Just
a form fitted fiberglass mask like for a costume party but
with a thin foam strip at the forehead and chin for a cushion...

I was the team manager/waiter etc.

Pete


On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:37:02 -0500, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> That was back in my days, Lester.  Nowadays they all have high dollar  
> custom
> fit mouth pieces...   Heck...  I was a goal tender. In those days we  
> didn't
> wear masks...   Those who have met me can vouch for that...    ;-)
>
> Cheers!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> it's bad enough that the guys have no front teeth, might not be as
>> attractive as you think..  ;-)
>>
>> Lester
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2010, at 2:09 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>  I'd like to have a women's hockey team but aside from being married  
>> I'm 46
>>> so not as young as I was..
>>>
>>> In a message dated 01/03/2010 18:07:43 GMT Standard Time,
>>> robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:
>>>
>>> What  hockey team would you have if you didn't
>>> have the NHL to draw  from?
>>>
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From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Mar  1 16:39:16 2010
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:39:16 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [PolySci_101] FW: US Today Poll on Gun  Ownership
In-Reply-To: <00ba01cab98a$4f01bda0$ed0538e0$@net>
Message-ID: <20100301233946.1AAAF187649@autox.team.net>

The thought of arming bears really scares me.
		Crash

Give it up Kate-this is over a year old. The case was decided in 2008 in
favor
of the gun people.

From twobees at sprynet.com  Mon Mar  1 18:01:55 2010
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:01:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
Message-ID: <00a501cab9a3$f3d809b0$6401a8c0@normoffice>

Obviously the NRA got the vote out AGAIN.  
 
Aren't more people killed by gunfire a month in the US than in the Iraq &
Afghanistan "wars?"  Yes.  I know.  Guns don't kill people.  People kill
people.  Only the criminals use guns to kill. Etc. But, where do they get
the guns?  From honest gun owners like us.  They steal them or buy them
illegally.  So, we ALL need to have guns to protect ourselves.  We've
actually had 2 cases in recent months in the Tampa area where legal gun
owners prevented crimes by shooting perps.  But, more fatal accidental
shootings have taken place here than that.  And, they murders with guns are
way beyond that.
 
Why does someone always have to bring up political stuff like this on a
car-list?  Don't we have enough to talk about with our LBCs?  Last I looked
we did.  Why not join a gun-lobby digest & spout off about this?  Doesn't
the NRA have a blog you can join?  Or are they too paranoid to allow that?
Or, do they require a "license" to blog on their site?  Opps!  There's that
"word."
 
Does the NSSF still exist?  Now there was a pro-gun org I could agree with.
That was back when I used my guns on a regular basis--for sport.  Now, my
sport is racing cars--Little British Cars.  And, can we stick to talking
about them here?
 
Norm
 
Nomex
On
Right
Motivated,
      i.e.RHD

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 18:16:17 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:16:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <00a501cab9a3$f3d809b0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
References: <00a501cab9a3$f3d809b0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>

I do not happen to drink beer, own any firearms (at least not right
now), or listen to Zappa (Moon Unit anyone?).

Like it or not, this List has a long tradition of discussing guns,
beer, Zappa, cats (just had to put down a very kewl cat this weekend),
and many other non-LBC topics. Especially when snow and salt are in
the ascendent. No one forcing you to read it.
David L

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Mar  1 19:14:05 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:14:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

The question was "Does the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns".  It was NOT do you think it
SHOULD guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns, or would you LIKE it
to guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns.
Loose interpretations of the Constitution and legislating from the bench is
as bad for car owners as it is for gun owners. If we give them this, what
will they come after next? There are legitimate ways to change the
constitution. There are no legitimate ways to sidestep the constitution.
BZ

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 19:35:57 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:35:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>

I have never smoked, but I was ALWAYS against a smoking ban, because it will
only be a matter of time that they come after something I care about.
"Food" for thought. PETA is gaining political ground every day. What would
you folks think, if they successfully lobbied for the rights of ALL animals,
and our government banned eating beef, pork, and chicken? NEVER you say,
don't EVER put major stupidity past OUR government.
Remember, it is only a matter of time, before they come for you...

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> The question was "Does the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
> guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns".  It was NOT do you think it
> SHOULD guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns, or would you LIKE it
> to guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns.
> Loose interpretations of the Constitution and legislating from the bench is
> as bad for car owners as it is for gun owners. If we give them this, what
> will they come after next? There are legitimate ways to change the
> constitution. There are no legitimate ways to sidestep the constitution.
> BZ
>
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From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 19:55:09 2010
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:55:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d6f30eca1003011855o4a3242a2k40a630d7aabdc3b8@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, I'm a member of PETA:

People Eating Tasty Animals

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have never smoked, but I was ALWAYS against a smoking ban, because it
> will
> only be a matter of time that they come after something I care about.
> "Food" for thought. PETA is gaining political ground every day. What would
> you folks think, if they successfully lobbied for the rights of ALL
> animals,
> and our government banned eating beef, pork, and chicken? NEVER you say,
> don't EVER put major stupidity past OUR government.
> Remember, it is only a matter of time, before they come for you...

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Mar  1 20:13:39 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:13:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <d6f30eca1003011855o4a3242a2k40a630d7aabdc3b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
	<d6f30eca1003011855o4a3242a2k40a630d7aabdc3b8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B8C8263.8010004@justbrits.com>

<< Hey, I'm a member of PETA:
People Eating Tasty Animals >>

Right on, Greg [right arm with clenched fist in the air!!] !!!

Power to The [correct] PETA !!!

<VBG> !!!

Ed

PS:  Copywrite 3/1/2010 !!

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 20:16:54 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 19:16:54 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4333f8141003011916u2771d6f2k4fd0b337501c4a7e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have never smoked, but I was ALWAYS against a smoking ban, because it
> will
> only be a matter of time that they come after something I care about.
> "Food" for thought. PETA is gaining political ground every day. What would
> you folks think, if they successfully lobbied for the rights of ALL
> animals,
> and our government banned eating beef, pork, and chicken? NEVER you say,
> don't EVER put major stupidity past OUR government.
> Remember, it is only a matter of time, before they come for you...
>
>
Brad, et al,
The American public and their elected representatives tried something like
this in the last century.  It was called Prohibition and it didn't work.  It
is a perfect example of how a vocal minority can hijack the government for
their own special interests.  People are attempting the same thing today on
both the left and the right.  A ban such as you suggest is possible would be
a non-starter.  Where you ARE loosing your rights is in the recent Supreme
Court decision allowing that corporations have a right to free speech.  It
is only a matter of time until we have a government of the corporations, by
the corporations, and for the corporations.  Then my friends, you got
troubles.
Hal

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Mar  1 22:51:55 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 23:51:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] ultra rare cooling system upgrade for bugeye
Message-ID: <13C9819B26C34EFC96723678FBE0FE38@leovs802bt6yj7>

http://tinyurl.com/yfbhfoa   Check out the engine bay pictures.  Has anyone
seen this ultra rare cooling system upgrade before?  This car might be one of
those rare factory test bed vehicles for R&D development.

Leo

From pchast at francomm.com  Mon Mar  1 23:25:52 2010
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:25:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200>

Brad and All.

I understand how you feel. They are valid points BUT.

Now I can go out to dinner and maybe a movie. I'm one of those few with  
environmental
allergies. My biggest problems are any smoke and most perfumes. Imagine!

Thanks,
Pete

On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 21:35:57 -0500, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>  
wrote:

>
> I have never smoked, but I was ALWAYS against a smoking ban, because it  
> will
> only be a matter of time that they come after something I care about.
> "Food" for thought. PETA is gaining political ground every day. What  
> would
> you folks think, if they successfully lobbied for the rights of ALL  
> animals,
> and our government banned eating beef, pork, and chicken? NEVER you say,
> don't EVER put major stupidity past OUR government.
> Remember, it is only a matter of time, before they come for you...
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> The question was "Does the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
>> guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns".  It was NOT do you  
>> think it
>> SHOULD guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns, or would you LIKE  
>> it
>> to guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns.
>> Loose interpretations of the Constitution and legislating from the  
>> bench is
>> as bad for car owners as it is for gun owners. If we give them this,  
>> what
>> will they come after next? There are legitimate ways to change the
>> constitution. There are no legitimate ways to sidestep the constitution.
>> BZ
>>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar  1 23:53:59 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 00:53:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003012253g66e8cbd0r69bd793f03ae7728@mail.gmail.com>

> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
>> wrote:
>> <snip>There are no legitimate ways to sidestep the constitution. <snip>
>>
>
Ummmm   Have you been following what our congress, SCOTUS and
administration. have been doing for the past 6 or 8 years, Billy?  Maybe not
legitimate, but accomplished just the same and we sit back fat, dumb and
happy and watch with drool running down our chins...

Cheers!!
Jim

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Mar  2 06:38:17 2010
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 05:38:17 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200>
Message-ID: <20100302133849.313D7187649@autox.team.net>

And I understand how you feel. My problem is the number of ex-smokers and
non-smokers that are extremely allergic to second hand smoke. They tend to
make me disbelieve any of them and unfairly the ones that really do suffer
those problems.
	 What really surprises me is it took until March for the guns and
political stuff to make the list, got to assume that you all got your cars
in top condition for spring and now have nothing better to do. Wish I could
say the same for my boat.
		Crash 


Brad and All.

I understand how you feel. They are valid points BUT.

Now I can go out to dinner and maybe a movie. I'm one of those few with  
environmental
allergies. My biggest problems are any smoke and most perfumes. Imagine!

Thanks,
Pete

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar  2 06:39:49 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:39:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ultra rare cooling system upgrade for bugeye
In-Reply-To: <13C9819B26C34EFC96723678FBE0FE38@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <13C9819B26C34EFC96723678FBE0FE38@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W9F523DBECA40A070CA9CBB83B0@phx.gbl>

Well, that is special!



I'll bet there's lots of comments on this one.



What is that car in the forefront in the 6th picture down?



And, what engine is that in there?



Robert


> From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yfbhfoa Check out the engine bay pictures. Has anyone
> seen this ultra rare cooling system upgrade before? This car might be one
of
> those rare factory test bed vehicles for R&D development.
>
> Leo

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar  2 06:51:52 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:51:52 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <20100302133849.313D7187649@autox.team.net>
References: <op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200>,
	<20100302133849.313D7187649@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W27D9E1654722B5C613EC97B83B0@phx.gbl>

Hmmm!  Maybe I fall into that category?  I'm an ex-smoker.  I wouldn't say
that I'm allergic and certainly not extremely allergic, but it sure isn't
pleasant for me.


I think they should do something or get off the pot.  Either it's bad enough
that it should be banned.  Or it's not and people should be able to choose.
Here, you can't smoke in restaurants and bars.  If it's not illegal to smoke,
then why can't these restaurants and bars designate themselves 'smoking' or
'smoke free' and let them attract the kind of customers that they want?  ( I
know it's not that simple.  Employees and job conditions and all. )



Weather is 'spring like' here at the moment and thoughts of being able to do
something to the cars is setting in.  In like a lamb?


Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> From: dwramsey at att.net
>
> And I understand how you feel. My problem is the number of ex-smokers and
> non-smokers that are extremely allergic to second hand smoke. They tend to
> make me disbelieve any of them and unfairly the ones that really do suffer
> those problems.
> What really surprises me is it took until March for the guns and
> political stuff to make the list, got to assume that you all got your cars
> in top condition for spring and now have nothing better to do. Wish I could
> say the same for my boat.
> Crash
>
>
> Brad and All.
>
> I understand how you feel. They are valid points BUT.
>
> Now I can go out to dinner and maybe a movie. I'm one of those few with
> environmental
> allergies. My biggest problems are any smoke and most perfumes. Imagine!
>
> Thanks,
> Pete

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar  2 07:08:16 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:08:16 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>,
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W13C33AB4F4BBE483C9916BB83B0@phx.gbl>

They've been after me up here for a long time.  They whittle away.



Brad, I thought you were pretty much a vegetarian?  Are you just trying to
keep others eating meat because you know that this planet couldn't sustain all
these people if they converted to vegetarianism?  :)





Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )





> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:35:57 -0600
> From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
- NO LBC Content
>
> I have never smoked, but I was ALWAYS against a smoking ban, because it
will
> only be a matter of time that they come after something I care about.
> "Food" for thought. PETA is gaining political ground every day. What would
> you folks think, if they successfully lobbied for the rights of ALL
animals,
> and our government banned eating beef, pork, and chicken? NEVER you say,
> don't EVER put major stupidity past OUR government.
> Remember, it is only a matter of time, before they come for you...
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>
> > The question was "Does the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
> > guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns". It was NOT do you think
it
> > SHOULD guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns, or would you LIKE
it
> > to guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns.
> > Loose interpretations of the Constitution and legislating from the bench
is
> > as bad for car owners as it is for gun owners. If we give them this, what
> > will they come after next? There are legitimate ways to change the
> > constitution. There are no legitimate ways to sidestep the constitution.
> > BZ

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Mar  2 07:23:21 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:23:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W27D9E1654722B5C613EC97B83B0@phx.gbl>
References: <op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200>
	<20100302133849.313D7187649@autox.team.net>
	<BAY112-W27D9E1654722B5C613EC97B83B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <0DB76C5B796C4B08BA1BFC59665A6DB9@Home>

I tried to replace/repair one of my fluorescent shop lights yesterday and 
was told at Home Cheapo that, in two years, the standard T12 bulbs will no 
longer be made.  They will be replaced by the more efficient T8 bulbs, which 
may not fit/work in the older fixtures.  So either we should stock up on T12 
bulbs or switch to T8 fixtures if replacing the entire unit.  She sold me 
new T12 end fittings which, naturally, do not fit my 25-year-old box.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 07:24:30 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:24:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W13C33AB4F4BBE483C9916BB83B0@phx.gbl>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W13C33AB4F4BBE483C9916BB83B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003020624y182b2c17gfbb030da4f2c20a4@mail.gmail.com>

I am vegetarian, but that was an analogy that I felt would make most list
members think.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:08 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> They've been after me up here for a long time.  They whittle away.
>
>
>
> Brad, I thought you were pretty much a vegetarian?  Are you just trying to
> keep others eating meat because you know that this planet couldn't sustain
> all
> these people if they converted to vegetarianism?  :)
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert Duquette
> Ottawa ON Canada
> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:35:57 -0600
> > From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn
> Bales)
> - NO LBC Content
> >
> > I have never smoked, but I was ALWAYS against a smoking ban, because it
> will
> > only be a matter of time that they come after something I care about.
> > "Food" for thought. PETA is gaining political ground every day. What
> would
> > you folks think, if they successfully lobbied for the rights of ALL
> animals,
> > and our government banned eating beef, pork, and chicken? NEVER you say,
> > don't EVER put major stupidity past OUR government.
> > Remember, it is only a matter of time, before they come for you...
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > The question was "Does the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
> > > guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns". It was NOT do you think
> it
> > > SHOULD guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns, or would you LIKE
> it
> > > to guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns.
> > > Loose interpretations of the Constitution and legislating from the
> bench
> is
> > > as bad for car owners as it is for gun owners. If we give them this,
> what
> > > will they come after next? There are legitimate ways to change the
> > > constitution. There are no legitimate ways to sidestep the
> constitution.
> > > BZ
>
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Mar  2 07:45:55 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:45:55 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Spridgets] ultra rare cooling system upgrade for bugeye
Message-ID: <2965.65.121.57.3.1267541155.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Well, that is special!  The engine is a 1500GB from a Metropolitan (not
sure on that) but it's the early type GB that should be in my 1959 MGA!

The heck with the air-conditioned GM or AMC (I'm viewing this on the road
in bright light and can't see the screen very well) in pic 4....what's the
body in the background off pic 6?  Elva???

Dave W. (Somewhere near 4-Corners USA)



> Well, that is special!
>
>
>
> I'll bet there's lots of comments on this one.
>
>
>
> What is that car in the forefront in the 6th picture down?
>
>
>
> And, what engine is that in there?
>
>
>
> Robert
>
>
>> From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net
>> http://tinyurl.com/yfbhfoa Check out the engine bay pictures. Has
anyone
>> seen this ultra rare cooling system upgrade before? This car might be one
> of
>> those rare factory test bed vehicles for R&D development.
>> Leo
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar  2 07:46:39 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:46:39 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003020624y182b2c17gfbb030da4f2c20a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>,
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BAY112-W13C33AB4F4BBE483C9916BB83B0@phx.gbl>,
	<e98d88091003020624y182b2c17gfbb030da4f2c20a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W43C9222D2FD1D2765BD1D1B83B0@phx.gbl>

Are you 'sure' that you want to do that?  ;)

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada




Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:24:30 -0600
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com

I am vegetarian, but that was an analogy that I felt would make most list
members think.


On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:08 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

They've been after me up here for a long time.  They whittle away.



Brad, I thought you were pretty much a vegetarian?  Are you just trying to
keep others eating meat because you know that this planet couldn't sustain
all
these people if they converted to vegetarianism?  :)



RD
> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:35:57 -0600
> From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> I have never smoked, but I was ALWAYS against a smoking ban, because it
will
> only be a matter of time that they come after something I care about.
> "Food" for thought. PETA is gaining political ground every day. What would
> you folks think, if they successfully lobbied for the rights of ALL
animals,
> and our government banned eating beef, pork, and chicken? NEVER you say,
> don't EVER put major stupidity past OUR government.
> Remember, it is only a matter of time, before they come for you...
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>
> > The question was "Does the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
> > guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns". It was NOT do you think
it
> > SHOULD guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns, or would you LIKE
it
> > to guarantee the rights of Americans to own guns.
> > Loose interpretations of the Constitution and legislating from the bench
is
> > as bad for car owners as it is for gun owners. If we give them this, what
> > will they come after next? There are legitimate ways to change the
> > constitution. There are no legitimate ways to sidestep the constitution.
> > BZ

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar  2 07:51:34 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:51:34 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ultra rare cooling system upgrade for bugeye
In-Reply-To: <2965.65.121.57.3.1267541155.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <2965.65.121.57.3.1267541155.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W9C51E2A71AE8D43AFC8CBB83B0@phx.gbl>

Duh!  Yeah, I wrote 'forefront'; but I meant background.


Robert


> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:45:55 -0600
>
> Well, that is special! The engine is a 1500GB from a Metropolitan (not
> sure on that) but it's the early type GB that should be in my 1959 MGA!
>
> The heck with the air-conditioned GM or AMC (I'm viewing this on the road
> in bright light and can't see the screen very well) in pic 4....what's the
> body in the background off pic 6? Elva???
>
> Dave W. (Somewhere near 4-Corners USA)
>
>
>
> > Well, that is special!
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll bet there's lots of comments on this one.
> >
> >
> >
> > What is that car in the forefront in the 6th picture down?
> >
> >
> >
> > And, what engine is that in there?
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >> From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net
> >> http://tinyurl.com/yfbhfoa Check out the engine bay pictures. Has
> anyone
> >> seen this ultra rare cooling system upgrade before? This car might be
one
> > of
> >> those rare factory test bed vehicles for R&D development.
> >> Leo

From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Mar  2 08:16:44 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:16:44 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights
References: <op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200><20100302133849.313D7187649@autox.team.net><BAY112-W27D9E1654722B5C613EC97B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<0DB76C5B796C4B08BA1BFC59665A6DB9@Home>
Message-ID: <15B20E42AF894735A9ABF0D52A81C8E2@user8634b3d69b>

Isn't it better to accept the older lights are no longer the better ones and 
move on to more efficient lights?  Stocking up on older no longer produced 
products of this nature may not be the most economical way forwards.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 2:23 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights


>I tried to replace/repair one of my fluorescent shop lights yesterday and 
>was told at Home Cheapo that, in two years, the standard T12 bulbs will no 
>longer be made.  They will be replaced by the more efficient T8 bulbs, 
>which may not fit/work in the older fixtures.  So either we should stock up 
>on T12 bulbs or switch to T8 fixtures if replacing the entire unit.  She 
>sold me new T12 end fittings which, naturally, do not fit my 25-year-old 
>box.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 08:21:06 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:21:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership (Kathryn Bales)
 - NO LBC Content
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W43C9222D2FD1D2765BD1D1B83B0@phx.gbl>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W13C33AB4F4BBE483C9916BB83B0@phx.gbl>
	<e98d88091003020624y182b2c17gfbb030da4f2c20a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W43C9222D2FD1D2765BD1D1B83B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188521003020721l424b5c45p658fa990aa0dc2ea@mail.gmail.com>

> I have never smoked, but I was ALWAYS against a smoking ban, because it
> will only be a matter of time that they come after something I care about.

OTOH, I live in Illinois where we have had a smoking ban in place for
enough years that it always surprises me when I am out of state and a
restaurant asks me whether I want smoking or non. Personally, I think
that the state of Illinois is missing out on a great revenue
opportunity by not offering the option to charge a "smoking tax" on an
annual basis.
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 08:23:06 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:23:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] ultra rare cooling system upgrade for bugeye
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W9C51E2A71AE8D43AFC8CBB83B0@phx.gbl>
References: <2965.65.121.57.3.1267541155.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<BAY112-W9C51E2A71AE8D43AFC8CBB83B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188521003020723g5f6dfb4cy9412e802e35215e@mail.gmail.com>

That tank must make it fun to set the timing!
David L

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Mar  2 08:31:58 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:31:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [PolySci_101] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership
In-Reply-To: <00ba01cab98a$4f01bda0$ed0538e0$@net>
References: <73CD7A7D4A6C44DD97B4B7EE7024CD44@kathy1df3a8070>
	<BAY129-W254569D2E36E6A9F859286AA3C0@phx.gbl>
	<4B8C35A2.3060900@frontiernet.net>
	<00ba01cab98a$4f01bda0$ed0538e0$@net>
Message-ID: <4B8D2F6E.4090704@frontiernet.net>

This is a new issue pertaining to the UN small arms agreement that is 
now being forced upon us.

Kate


Herbert Miller wrote:
>
> Give it up Kate-this is over a year old. The case was decided in 2008 
> in favor of the gun people.
>
> */District of Columbia v. Heller/*, 554 U.S. ___ (2008) was a landmark 
> legal case <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_case> in which the 
> Supreme Court of the United States 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States> held 
> that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution> 
> protects an individual's right <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right> to 
> possess a firearm <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm> for private 
> use in federal enclaves 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_enclaves>. The decision did not 
> address the question of whether the Second Amendment extends beyond 
> federal enclaves to the states.^[1] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller#cite_note-0> 
> It was the first Supreme Court case in United States history to decide 
> whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and 
> bear arms for self defense.^[2] 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller#cite_note-1>
>
> Herb Miller
>
>  
>
> *From:* polysci_101-bounces at justbrits.com 
> [mailto:polysci_101-bounces at justbrits.com] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Bales
> *Sent:* Monday, March 01, 2010 3:46 PM
> *To:* Poly-Sci List
> *Cc:* Spridgets; Assn
> *Subject:* Re: [PolySci_101] FW: US Today Poll on Gun Ownership
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> *Subject:* US Today Poll on Gun Ownership
>
> o;?
>
> Obama's new Attorney General, Eric Holder, has already said this is 
> one of his major issues. 
>
> He does not believe the 2^nd Amendment gives individuals the right to 
> bear arms. 
>
> This takes literally 2 clicks to complete.  
>
> Please vote on this gun issue question with USA Today. 
>
> It will only take a few seconds of your time. 
>
> Then pass the link on to all the pro gun folks you know.  
>
> Hopefully these results will be published later this month.
>
> This upcoming year will become critical for gun owners with 
> the Supreme Court's accepting the District of Columbia  case against 
> the right for individuals to bear arms. 
>
> Here's what you need to do:
>
> First - vote on this one.
>
> Second - launch it to other folks and have THEM vote - then we will 
> see if the results get published.
>
> The Question is: "Does the Second Amendment give individuals the right 
> to bear arms?"
>
>
> Click on the link below and PLEASE vote Yes!
>
> _USATODAY.com - Quick Question 
> <http://www.usatoday.com/news/quickquestion/2007/november/popup5895.htm>_
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. Get it now. 
> <http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469230/direct/01/>

From bpazur at excel.net  Tue Mar  2 08:38:58 2010
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:38:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Calling Billy Zoom - no LBC
Message-ID: <201003021538.o22FcwXf024578@green.excel.net>

Billy -

If you would be so kind as to contact me off-list, I would like to ask you a
couple of questions about the recording industry, specifically copyrights,
and copyright detection. It's for a little personal (not-for-profit, just a
hobby type thing) project I am trying to accomplish.
It involves youtube, and getting an audio soundtrack to a slide show I made
accepted by youtube. The audio tracks on the slide show I submitted got
rejected because the tracks were copywrited, and they determined this some
way. I want to know how to find a couple of songs (maybe even old Delta
Blues) that they would accept. I mean this isn't something I'm trying to sell
for God's sake.
The pics are of the 70s NYC rock scene. I took all of them.
Maybe you can't help me, but I don't know anyone else that could.

Thanks.

Bud Pazur

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 08:46:33 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:46:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [PolySci_101] FW: US Today Poll on Gun  Ownership
In-Reply-To: <4B8D2F6E.4090704@frontiernet.net>
References: <73CD7A7D4A6C44DD97B4B7EE7024CD44@kathy1df3a8070>
	<BAY129-W254569D2E36E6A9F859286AA3C0@phx.gbl>
	<4B8C35A2.3060900@frontiernet.net>
	<00ba01cab98a$4f01bda0$ed0538e0$@net>
	<4B8D2F6E.4090704@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <402188521003020746p406027a1m5681def91f9fdb15@mail.gmail.com>

> This is a new issue pertaining to the UN small arms agreement that is
> now being forced upon us.

But what you sent us had nothing to do with anything new.
David L

From twobees at sprynet.com  Tue Mar  2 09:06:49 2010
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:06:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
Message-ID: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>

"Where you ARE loosing your rights is in the recent Supreme Court decision
allowing that corporations have a right to free speech. It is only a matter
of time until we have a government of the corporations, by the corporations,
and for the corporations. Then my friends, you got troubles. Hal"

Seems that we are already there.  I've been grousing to my elected reps that
they are SUPPOSED to be working for "We the People" not the special interest
lobbies.  But, almost all of them seem to be working for "Me the Legislator"
& "They the Corporations and Lobbies."

The Supreme Court decision referred to is merely an interpretation of the
existing laws.  If Congress wasn't so busy with representing their special
interests, they might be able to get around to changing the law.  But, what
are the chances of that?

Norm

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Mar  2 09:20:36 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 08:20:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <427224.12492.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Agreed, but the voters are hypocrites; they keep re-electing the same people
back to Washington, their state capitols, and their local town halls.

jay

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com> wrote:

From: Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 11:06 AM

"Where you ARE loosing your rights is in the recent Supreme Court decision
allowing that corporations have a right to free speech. It is only a matter
of time until we have a government of the corporations, by the corporations,
and for the corporations. Then my friends, you got troubles. Hal"

Seems that we are already there.  I've been grousing to my elected reps that
they are SUPPOSED to be working for "We the People" not the special interest
lobbies.  But, almost all of them seem to be working for "Me the Legislator"
& "They the Corporations and Lobbies."

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Tue Mar  2 09:30:15 2010
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:30:15 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] nolbc but little italian car
Message-ID: <C2A28851FD65461D902301C06F69EDA4@desktop>

global warming and end of fossil fuels might force us to drive one of these


http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=21586

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 09:33:29 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:33:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <427224.12492.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
	<427224.12492.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003020833r681de68ap7aa3b67af7ac3091@mail.gmail.com>

AND we keep moaning about not having term limits on Congress when we
already hold the power of limiting the terms of any congressman.
David L



On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> Agreed, but the voters are hypocrites; they keep re-electing the same
people
> back to Washington, their state capitols, and their local town halls.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Tue, 3/2/10, Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com> wrote:
>
> From: Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
> To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 11:06 AM
>
> "Where you ARE loosing your rights is in the recent Supreme Court decision
> allowing that corporations have a right to free speech. It is only a matter
> of time until we have a government of the corporations, by the
corporations,
> and for the corporations. Then my friends, you got troubles. Hal"
>
> Seems that we are already there.  I've been grousing to my elected reps
that
> they are SUPPOSED to be working for "We the People" not the special
interest
> lobbies.  But, almost all of them seem to be working for "Me the
Legislator"
> & "They the Corporations and Lobbies."
>
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Mar  2 09:48:39 2010
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:48:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <00a401caba28$37167fc0$a5437f40$@net>

I agree with the Supreme Court on this.  According to the copy of the
constitution that I keep close at hand, the first amendment says:

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press,...'

I don't know about anyone else, but I interpret that to mean that Congress
has to stay the hell out of it.  I like to think the Constitution is a
document pertaining more to PREVENTING what government can do.  Yeah, I
know, the government tells us what to do all the time.  But I still say, the
Supreme Court was right.  The 1st amendment does not say anything about
'only people have the right' or anything of that sort.  It simply says
Congress cannot restrict free speech.

Heard



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norm 2Bs
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:07 AM
To: Spridgets Digest
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)

"Where you ARE loosing your rights is in the recent Supreme Court decision
allowing that corporations have a right to free speech. It is only a matter
of time until we have a government of the corporations, by the corporations,
and for the corporations. Then my friends, you got troubles. Hal"

Seems that we are already there.  I've been grousing to my elected reps that
they are SUPPOSED to be working for "We the People" not the special interest
lobbies.  But, almost all of them seem to be working for "Me the Legislator"
& "They the Corporations and Lobbies."

The Supreme Court decision referred to is merely an interpretation of the
existing laws.  If Congress wasn't so busy with representing their special
interests, they might be able to get around to changing the law.  But, what
are the chances of that?

Norm
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar  2 09:56:59 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:56:59 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <00a401caba28$37167fc0$a5437f40$@net>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>,
	<00a401caba28$37167fc0$a5437f40$@net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W4E16907BD02D2068B1FF9B83B0@phx.gbl>

I guess as long as they don't get paid to speak ... ;)




> It simply says Congress cannot restrict free speech.
>
> Heard

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 10:37:20 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:37:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [PolySci_101] FW: US Today Poll on Gun  Ownership
In-Reply-To: <402188521003020746p406027a1m5681def91f9fdb15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <73CD7A7D4A6C44DD97B4B7EE7024CD44@kathy1df3a8070>
	<BAY129-W254569D2E36E6A9F859286AA3C0@phx.gbl>
	<4B8C35A2.3060900@frontiernet.net>
	<00ba01cab98a$4f01bda0$ed0538e0$@net>
	<4B8D2F6E.4090704@frontiernet.net>
	<402188521003020746p406027a1m5681def91f9fdb15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003020937r6034587fvf123047d671dda61@mail.gmail.com>

I believe Kate is talking about McDonald vs City of Chicago which the SCOTUS

has agreed to hear.  See:

http://www.scotusblog.com/

As I understand it, the issue before the court is whether or not states,
cities, towns and counties have the right to pass laws that deny citizens
their second amendment rights under the constitution. Last year's Keller vs
District of Columbia ruling may or may not be precedent here since the
District of Columbia may not equate with a state, city, town or county. Mr.
McDonald is an elderly black citizen living in a Chicago neighborhood full
of drug dealers and other criminal elements. He claims the right to have a
hand gun to be safer walking the streets near his home. Interesting case and
as Kate says it could have very significant impact on all of us.   I am
following the case closely with the understanding that we get the government
which we deserve....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > This is a new issue pertaining to the UN small arms agreement that is
> > now being forced upon us.
>
> But what you sent us had nothing to do with anything new.
> David L
>
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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 10:41:03 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:41:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] nolbc but little italian car
In-Reply-To: <C2A28851FD65461D902301C06F69EDA4@desktop>
References: <C2A28851FD65461D902301C06F69EDA4@desktop>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003020941n1284e413taa4324451ed300c1@mail.gmail.com>

If the AGW alarmists are right, you won't need a car, you'll need a boat.
Where's Noah when we need him?

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Alan East-Jones <
alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com> wrote:

> global warming and end of fossil fuels might force us to drive one of these
>
>
> http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=21586
>
> --
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 11:01:14 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:01:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <00a401caba28$37167fc0$a5437f40$@net>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
	<00a401caba28$37167fc0$a5437f40$@net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003021001m518d1133xfe1b9b4774eb88f7@mail.gmail.com>

Constitution?  What's a constitution?

Sincerely,
Your Government

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Heard <heard at datatrontech.net> wrote:

> I agree with the Supreme Court on this.  According to the copy of the
> constitution that I keep close at hand, the first amendment says:
>
> 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
> prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech,
> or of the press,...'
>
> I don't know about anyone else, but I interpret that to mean that Congress
> has to stay the hell out of it.  I like to think the Constitution is a
> document pertaining more to PREVENTING what government can do.  Yeah, I
> know, the government tells us what to do all the time.  But I still say,
> the
> Supreme Court was right.  The 1st amendment does not say anything about
> 'only people have the right' or anything of that sort.  It simply says
> Congress cannot restrict free speech.
>
> Heard
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norm 2Bs
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 11:07 AM
> To: Spridgets Digest
> Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>
> "Where you ARE loosing your rights is in the recent Supreme Court decision
> allowing that corporations have a right to free speech. It is only a matter
> of time until we have a government of the corporations, by the
> corporations,
> and for the corporations. Then my friends, you got troubles. Hal"
>
> Seems that we are already there.  I've been grousing to my elected reps
> that
> they are SUPPOSED to be working for "We the People" not the special
> interest
> lobbies.  But, almost all of them seem to be working for "Me the
> Legislator"
> & "They the Corporations and Lobbies."
>
> The Supreme Court decision referred to is merely an interpretation of the
> existing laws.  If Congress wasn't so busy with representing their special
> interests, they might be able to get around to changing the law.  But, what
> are the chances of that?
>
> Norm
> Suggested annual donation $12.75
>
> You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 11:13:29 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:13:29 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <4333f8141003021013q66aeb7e6hbb2de1d4a94ff1f1@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Norm 2Bs <twobees at sprynet.com> wrote:

>
> The Supreme Court decision referred to is merely an interpretation of the
> existing laws.
>
I beg to differ, this court has changed the interpretation of the
Constitution (o.k., the Constitution is the supreme law of the land) to give
corporations (which are never mentioned in the constitution) rights which
effectively trump the rights of the little guy.
Also consider the laws on patenting  DNA and GMO crops.  Small farmers whose
crops get contaminated with genes from GMO crops because of the natural
methods of fertilization (bees, wind, etc) cannot save their seeds for their
own next year's crop because they violate BIB agribiz patents.
Hal

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 11:16:50 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:16:50 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4333f8141003021013q66aeb7e6hbb2de1d4a94ff1f1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
	<4333f8141003021013q66aeb7e6hbb2de1d4a94ff1f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4333f8141003021016v7d625e25r1406776407754be2@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

> cause they violate BIB agribiz patents.
>
Hal
>
>
OOOOOOPS, make that "BIG" agribiz

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Mar  2 11:18:52 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:18:52 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Hockey!
Message-ID: <64f7a.534cd6ec.38beb08c@aol.com>

I've flown back seat in an F4J ex US Marine Corp that saw service in  Nam.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 01/03/2010 22:23:51 GMT Standard Time,  
bmwwxman at gmail.com writes:

And  flying an F16 is probably out of the question now

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Mar  2 11:23:14 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:23:14 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] ultra rare cooling system upgrade for bugeye
Message-ID: <654e5.5026eb01.38beb192@aol.com>

I doubt the factory would use a LHD car for R&D.  Also I can't see  any 
advantage in this mod unless that tank was fitted with a drain tap so as to  
brew a cup of tea or something.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 02/03/2010 05:52:50 GMT Standard Time,  
60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:

http://tinyurl.com/yfbhfoa   Check out the engine bay  pictures.  Has anyone
seen this ultra rare cooling system upgrade  before?  This car might be one 
of
those rare factory test bed vehicles  for R&D development.

Leo

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 11:26:20 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:26:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>

Guys,

Someone...and I guess it's me since I am the one bringing it up...is going
to tell you to take this line of conversation to Ed's "PolySci" list.
 Where, BTW, we have some really good (and often heated) dialog on political
lines.  If you are not a 'member', join.  It's great fun and educational.

We have common interest in cars, but we sure differ in our views.  Love
it!!!

Herb...one who's far more involved in politics than he ought to be.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 11:31:03 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:31:03 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] ultra rare cooling system upgrade for bugeye
In-Reply-To: <13C9819B26C34EFC96723678FBE0FE38@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <13C9819B26C34EFC96723678FBE0FE38@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003021031o67eb9da3n8d1f56d39dc18286@mail.gmail.com>

He sure likes...and uses...his new camera!!!

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Mar  2 11:42:11 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:42:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

What we really need is a "PolyHockey" list.

jay

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,

Someone...and I guess it's me since I am the one bringing it up...is going
to tell you to take this line of conversation to Ed's "PolySci" list.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar  2 11:44:59 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:44:59 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>,
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>

Would you be saying that if the US had got the gold?  ;)

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 10:42:11 -0800
> From: jfishbein at snet.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)
>
> What we really need is a "PolyHockey" list.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Tue, 3/2/10, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> Someone...and I guess it's me since I am the one bringing it up...is going
> to tell you to take this line of conversation to Ed's "PolySci" list.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 11:52:51 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 12:52:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>

> Would you be saying that if the US had got the gold?  ;)

Since I did not watch ANY of the Olympics (or the summer ones before,
or the winter ones before that, ad nauseum), I can adhere to the List
motto of "Don't try to ruin my arguments with facts."

I have been told that the Chicago Blackhawks had three players on the
Canadian team, one on the USA team, and two on the Slovakian team, so
I wouldn't know who to root for anyway. At least I can root for Brasil
in the World Cup...
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar  2 12:02:44 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:02:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>,
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>,
	<402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W252A96CA53A8B0FEFC5A4AB83B0@phx.gbl>

So what you're really saying is that the Blackhawk's success is partly due to
Canadian players!  ( or is it blame? )  I'm not a big sports fan, but I do
watch the Ottawa team.


Thanks for bring this up again Jay! :)



If you go here:

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/index.php/ci_id/60212/la_id/1.htm

and click on the flags, you can check out who played on which teams.


Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> > Would you be saying that if the US had got the gold?  ;)
>
> Since I did not watch ANY of the Olympics (or the summer ones before,
> or the winter ones before that, ad nauseum), I can adhere to the List
> motto of "Don't try to ruin my arguments with facts."
>
> I have been told that the Chicago Blackhawks had three players on the
> Canadian team, one on the USA team, and two on the Slovakian team, so
> I wouldn't know who to root for anyway. At least I can root for Brasil
> in the World Cup...
> David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Mar  2 12:06:19 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:06:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003021001m518d1133xfe1b9b4774eb88f7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
	<00a401caba28$37167fc0$a5437f40$@net>
	<43840a7e1003021001m518d1133xfe1b9b4774eb88f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <786214.41729.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

An 'Iron constitution' means you can eat Tex-Mex without belching!
Is there any other sort?  Heh Heh

 Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
>
> Constitution?  What's a constitution?

From conen at bellsouth.net  Tue Mar  2 12:18:51 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:18:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] ultra rare cooling system upgrade for bugeye
Message-ID: <915440.64150.qm@web180211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per Leo S...
>>He sure likes...and uses...his new camera!!!

Unfortunately, he's not very good with it. ;-) :-) :-)
  Ed in NC

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Mar  2 13:01:35 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:01:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] ultra rare cooling system upgrade for bugeye
References: <654e5.5026eb01.38beb192@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1D99F9D63759466FA6878EA97AE27B1D@leovs802bt6yj7>

See....proof it must be an R&D car....  A built in tea maker:)  Aren't the
English big on tea?   RoFL

Leo

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Mar  2 13:04:18 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:04:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <912FF741-BDF8-4C9B-BDDF-9FB45FFC4B89@comcast.net>

How many Blackhawks on the Brazilian Football team? ;-)

Lester


On Mar 2, 2010, at 12:52 PM, David Lieb wrote:

>> Would you be saying that if the US had got the gold?  ;)
>
> Since I did not watch ANY of the Olympics (or the summer ones before,
> or the winter ones before that, ad nauseum), I can adhere to the List
> motto of "Don't try to ruin my arguments with facts."
>
> I have been told that the Chicago Blackhawks had three players on the
> Canadian team, one on the USA team, and two on the Slovakian team, so
> I wouldn't know who to root for anyway. At least I can root for Brasil
> in the World Cup...
> David L
>
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 13:31:32 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:31:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <912FF741-BDF8-4C9B-BDDF-9FB45FFC4B89@comcast.net>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
	<912FF741-BDF8-4C9B-BDDF-9FB45FFC4B89@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <402188521003021231u617cff39qa5d7708b62a7925e@mail.gmail.com>

> How many Blackhawks on the Brazilian Football team? ;-)

None! You cannot get onto the Selecao if you have any other interest in life.
David L

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 13:43:22 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:43:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <402188521003021231u617cff39qa5d7708b62a7925e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
	<912FF741-BDF8-4C9B-BDDF-9FB45FFC4B89@comcast.net>
	<402188521003021231u617cff39qa5d7708b62a7925e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003021243x3040d460v879ce21d0da22d51@mail.gmail.com>

I wasn't real good at math.  How many is a Brazilian?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:31 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > How many Blackhawks on the Brazilian Football team? ;-)
>
> None! You cannot get onto the Selecao if you have any other interest in
> life.
> David L

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Mar  2 13:46:52 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:46:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com><776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl><402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com><912FF741-BDF8-4C9B-BDDF-9FB45FFC4B89@comcast.net><402188521003021231u617cff39qa5d7708b62a7925e@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e1003021243x3040d460v879ce21d0da22d51@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5BC5DA9C91BC44DCB6F1B50F0767BAA0@CGI.COMMTECH>

That's the Nation Debt in 2025 at the current rate.


----- Original Message ----- 

>I wasn't real good at math.  How many is a Brazilian?
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Mar  2 13:48:40 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:48:40 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Was guns, now smoking, minimal LBC
In-Reply-To: <402188521003020721l424b5c45p658fa990aa0dc2ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <-577204227673222173@unknownmsgid>
	<C7B1B46D.24A3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<e98d88091003011835q10ed457al7c347bd4aa60eb56@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W13C33AB4F4BBE483C9916BB83B0@phx.gbl>
	<e98d88091003020624y182b2c17gfbb030da4f2c20a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W43C9222D2FD1D2765BD1D1B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<402188521003020721l424b5c45p658fa990aa0dc2ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B8D79A8.9010807@frontiernet.net>

I am planning my route to Spridget 50th. What States still offer smoking 
sections? I will be coming from Nevada, and stopping in North Liberty, 
Iowa, probably on the return.

Kate


David Lieb wrote:
>> I have never smoked, but I was ALWAYS against a smoking ban, because it
>> will only be a matter of time that they come after something I care about.
>>     
>
> OTOH, I live in Illinois where we have had a smoking ban in place for
> enough years that it always surprises me when I am out of state and a
> restaurant asks me whether I want smoking or non. Personally, I think
> that the state of Illinois is missing out on a great revenue
> opportunity by not offering the option to charge a "smoking tax" on an
> annual basis.
> David L
>
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 13:53:35 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:53:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003021243x3040d460v879ce21d0da22d51@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
	<912FF741-BDF8-4C9B-BDDF-9FB45FFC4B89@comcast.net>
	<402188521003021231u617cff39qa5d7708b62a7925e@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e1003021243x3040d460v879ce21d0da22d51@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003021253p3cb874bam72946bd466247b71@mail.gmail.com>

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought a Brazilian meant that EVERYTHING is
removed....
So a Brazilian = nothing.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I wasn't real good at math.  How many is a Brazilian?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:31 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > How many Blackhawks on the Brazilian Football team? ;-)
> >
> > None! You cannot get onto the Selecao if you have any other interest in
> > life.
> > David L
>
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Mar  2 14:13:33 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:13:33 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Congress
In-Reply-To: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <4B8D7F7D.9010401@frontiernet.net>

Our main problem with Congress is the fact that they have too much power 
over their own situation. They name their own salaries and benefits, 
which they receive for life after only one term in office. What motive 
do they have to actually represent the people? Until such time as the 
people regain control of Congress, we have no hope of restoring our 
Country to what the framers of the Constitution envisioned.

Kate

Norm 2Bs wrote:
> "Where you ARE loosing your rights is in the recent Supreme Court decision
> allowing that corporations have a right to free speech. It is only a matter
> of time until we have a government of the corporations, by the corporations,
> and for the corporations. Then my friends, you got troubles. Hal"
>
> Seems that we are already there.  I've been grousing to my elected reps that
> they are SUPPOSED to be working for "We the People" not the special interest
> lobbies.  But, almost all of them seem to be working for "Me the Legislator"
> & "They the Corporations and Lobbies."
>
> The Supreme Court decision referred to is merely an interpretation of the
> existing laws.  If Congress wasn't so busy with representing their special
> interests, they might be able to get around to changing the law.  But, what
> are the chances of that?
>
> Norm
>
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Mar  2 14:24:20 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:24:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Congress
In-Reply-To: <4B8D7F7D.9010401@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <349946.84808.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I may have left the can of paint open too long, but is this the type of email that belongs over there on the Poly-Urethane list?

jay

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:
Our main problem with Congress is the fact that they have too much power 
over their own situation. They name their own salaries and benefits, 
which they receive for life after only one term in office. What motive 
do they have to actually represent the people? Until such time as the 
people regain control of Congress, we have no hope of restoring our 
Country to what the framers of the Constitution envisioned.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar  2 14:36:52 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:36:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights
In-Reply-To: <0DB76C5B796C4B08BA1BFC59665A6DB9@Home>
References: <op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200>
	<20100302133849.313D7187649@autox.team.net>
	<BAY112-W27D9E1654722B5C613EC97B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<0DB76C5B796C4B08BA1BFC59665A6DB9@Home>
Message-ID: <4B8D84F4.1020507@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> I tried to replace/repair one of my fluorescent shop lights yesterday 
> and was told at Home Cheapo that, in two years, the standard T12 bulbs 
> will no longer be made.
They also tell us that incandescent bulbs will be a thing of the past 
and we will be stuck with the curly fluorescent bulbs that are ALL made 
in china, ALL contain mercury, and ALL must be disposed of  at a 
suitable mercury recycling center.
Read the package on one of those bulbs, "evacuate the room in case the 
bulb breaks"!
Really?
We have a Porch light program around here, they dropped off one of these 
chinese mercury filled bulbs, I gave them a piece of my mind.
Saves energy, saves the planet, puts another 1000 Americans out of work 
too and pollutes the rivers with mercury once again.
Do you know why we do not make these bulbs here?
Mercury!
So the chinese do not have a problem with this stuff.                Yet.

FWIW, I have T8s in my garage, they are better and last longer.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 14:35:34 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:35:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Congress
In-Reply-To: <349946.84808.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <4B8D7F7D.9010401@frontiernet.net>
	<349946.84808.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003021335k8da55b5t1f077f2c352a216c@mail.gmail.com>

> I may have left the can of paint open too long, but is this the type of email that belongs over there on the Poly-Urethane list?

I think it was a can of worms, not paint. Or were you painting worms?
In any case, NO. this is a test to see whether your delete key still works.
I don't necessarily agree with the opinions stated hither thither and
yon, but I will defend the right to express them. The only acceptable
form of censorship is from within, not from peer pressure.
David L

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar  2 14:48:01 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:48:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003021243x3040d460v879ce21d0da22d51@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
	<912FF741-BDF8-4C9B-BDDF-9FB45FFC4B89@comcast.net>
	<402188521003021231u617cff39qa5d7708b62a7925e@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e1003021243x3040d460v879ce21d0da22d51@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B8D8791.20305@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
> I wasn't real good at math.  How many is a Brazilian?
>   
That's the bill with Obama's face on it.

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  2 14:47:18 2010
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 13:47:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights
In-Reply-To: <0DB76C5B796C4B08BA1BFC59665A6DB9@Home>
Message-ID: <191678.44341.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

IMHO  Buy the new lights.  They put out as much light as the older ones and
use less energy.  You ca retro fit your fixtures if you like.  The college I
work for did the retrofit with the new ballast, end fittings, and
lamps. (Thousands of fixtures) In the last year the engery savings were almost
50%.  In a few more years the retro fit will be paid for. 
I am going to replace the flouresence fixtures in my garage to the new style
to eliminate the buzzing.

--- On Tue, 3/2/10, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:


From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, March 2, 2010, 8:23 AM


I tried to replace/repair one of my fluorescent shop lights yesterday and was
told at Home Cheapo that, in two years, the standard T12 bulbs will no longer
be made.  They will be replaced by the more efficient T8 bulbs, which may not
fit/work in the older fixtures.  So either we should stock up on T12 bulbs or
switch to T8 fixtures if replacing the entire unit.  She sold me new T12 end
fittings which, naturally, do not fit my 25-year-old box.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Tue Mar  2 15:09:57 2010
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:09:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601C840@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

I discovered the same thing about 2 months ago. Ended up buying a new
T-8 "Lo-temp" fixture to replace one with a bad ballast-the Chinese
light was less cash  than the repair!

I don't want to replace all my shop lights.

Anyone know a cheap fix?

-----------------



Message: 11

Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:23:21 -0500

From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>

Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights

To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>

Message-ID: <0DB76C5B796C4B08BA1BFC59665A6DB9 at Home>

Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;

      reply-type=original



I tried to replace/repair one of my fluorescent shop lights yesterday
and

was told at Home Cheapo that, in two years, the standard T12 bulbs will
no

longer be made.  They will be replaced by the more efficient T8 bulbs,
which

may not fit/work in the older fixtures.  So either we should stock up on
T12

bulbs or switch to T8 fixtures if replacing the entire unit.  She sold
me

new T12 end fittings which, naturally, do not fit my 25-year-old box.



Michael Rowe

'74 Midget

'60 Sprite kit

Long Island, NY

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 15:24:48 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:24:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4B8D8791.20305@comcast.net>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
	<912FF741-BDF8-4C9B-BDDF-9FB45FFC4B89@comcast.net>
	<402188521003021231u617cff39qa5d7708b62a7925e@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e1003021243x3040d460v879ce21d0da22d51@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B8D8791.20305@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003021424i1258723cw5ec1b8d4802414e@mail.gmail.com>

I see.  So it's an IOU for our grandkids....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> I wasn't real good at math.  How many is a Brazilian?
>>
>>
> That's the bill with Obama's face on it.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Tue Mar  2 15:24:59 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:24:59 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4B8D8791.20305@comcast.net>
References: <2ad6c6b11003021026n28c16f2fi4f725d266ddcf882@mail.gmail.com>
	<776159.66962.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W23D1A2B36FF22860865476B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<402188521003021052q4deb411bx457e090646370d66@mail.gmail.com>
	<912FF741-BDF8-4C9B-BDDF-9FB45FFC4B89@comcast.net>
	<402188521003021231u617cff39qa5d7708b62a7925e@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e1003021243x3040d460v879ce21d0da22d51@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B8D8791.20305@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003021424n4c25830cg7c5c1dc3aa5d6186@mail.gmail.com>

Holy Crap! I wish the snow would melt so you guys would go out and drive
your cars.  You can always tell which guys live in the "snow" states on this
list.  The cabin fever sets in about now. ;^)
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite (It's almost 70 here right now, think I'll go for a ride.)
56 BN2

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> I wasn't real good at math.  How many is a Brazilian?
>>
>>
> That's the bill with Obama's face on it.
>
>
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From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  2 15:32:32 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 14:32:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
Message-ID: <615932.58625.qm@web46407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Where and when is the Spridget 50th? Skip J.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 15:40:28 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:40:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <615932.58625.qm@web46407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <615932.58625.qm@web46407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003021440p772c4a37ge08f8b2e96cf7327@mail.gmail.com>

> Where and when is the Spridget 50th? Skip J.

http://sprite-midgetclub.org/
Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin (Road America) June 2011
David L

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Mar  2 15:50:54 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 14:50:54 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Congress
In-Reply-To: <4B8D7F7D.9010401@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <C7B2D64E.24ADE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Until such time as the
> people regain control of Congress, we have no hope of restoring our
> Country to what the framers of the Constitution envisioned.
That means they'd actually have to stop voting for the same *-hole every
election.

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Mar  2 16:12:04 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:12:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Congress
In-Reply-To: <349946.84808.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <349946.84808.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B8D9B44.2090108@justbrits.com>

<< I may have left the can of paint open too long, >>

In YOUR case Jay, I AM sure that would be 'fact' !!!

<< but is this the type of email that belongs over there on
the Poly-Urethane list?>>

Don't have that one but would be happy to do
so <G> if you folks think there IS a "need" !!
Ditto  "What we really need is a "PolyHockey" list."  !!!

POC and do NOT forget FREE !!!  If any of you feel the
"need" for a given topic as a "List Subject/Topic Title"
either NOT covered here nor by any of my Lists, requests
would be considered !!!! <VBG>  I only have 191 lists still
available !!!

For those of you that wish to join either my "Joke" [9issa]
List or the "PolySci" List feel free to ask WFO Herb !!!
He admits to enjoying them so he 'should' have the
Instructions immediately "at hand" [right, Herb>] !!!! 

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Mar  2 16:23:54 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:23:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights
In-Reply-To: <4B8D84F4.1020507@comcast.net>
References: <op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200>
	<20100302133849.313D7187649@autox.team.net>
	<BAY112-W27D9E1654722B5C613EC97B83B0@phx.gbl>
	<0DB76C5B796C4B08BA1BFC59665A6DB9@Home> <4B8D84F4.1020507@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B8D9E0A.903@justbrits.com>

<< We have a Porch light program around here, >>

Must not want 'knee breaking' going on <G> !!

I have seven [7] spot light fixtures in lieu of
"porch lits".  Guess WHAT !?!?  Those cute
mercury filled curly bulbs DON'T fit !!!  WFT ??
And they DON'T fit the two [2] 'porch lite'
fixtures EITHER !?!?!?  What' up with dat ???

Oh I know, gotta replace with asian sh*t, right??
NAH !!!

Oh well, they're NOT on all the time <G> !!

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue Mar  2 16:34:03 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:34:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <402188521003021440p772c4a37ge08f8b2e96cf7327@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1071697096.5169871267572843095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

while we are loosley on the subject... who deceided on having the poster be a really odd size of 10"x11 3/4"??? makes framing kinda tough. 

Ryan 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> 
To: "Skip Jackson" <jackson.skip at yahoo.com> 
Cc: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:40:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th 

> Where and when is the Spridget 50th? Skip J. 

http://sprite-midgetclub.org/ 
Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin (Road America) June 2011 
David L 

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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Mar  2 17:04:37 2010
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:04:37 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
Message-ID: <e64b.4e9c00ba.38bf0195@aol.com>

Just buy a standard size frame and use mat board to make up the  
differnece....easy peasy.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar  2 17:21:59 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:21:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights
In-Reply-To: <4B8D9E0A.903@justbrits.com>
References: <op.u8xf5ejisjevdj@pete200><20100302133849.313D7187649@autox.team.net><BAY112-W27D9E1654722B5C613EC97B83B0@phx.gbl><0DB76C5B796C4B08BA1BFC59665A6DB9@Home>
	<4B8D84F4.1020507@comcast.net> <4B8D9E0A.903@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <3BFDA4C08FB740DD8DAE2D6CD968E452@HomePC>

Ed, there must be some community college nearby that has ESL courses.

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From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 5:23 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Fluorescent Lights

<< We have a Porch light program around here, >>

Must not want 'knee breaking' going on <G> !!

I have seven [7] spot light fixtures in lieu of
"porch lits".  Guess WHAT !?!?  Those cute
mercury filled curly bulbs DON'T fit !!!  WFT ??
And they DON'T fit the two [2] 'porch lite'
fixtures EITHER !?!?!?  What' up with dat ???

Oh I know, gotta replace with asian sh*t, right??
NAH !!!

Oh well, they're NOT on all the time <G> !!
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar  2 17:27:47 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:27:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Congress
In-Reply-To: <4B8D7F7D.9010401@frontiernet.net>
References: <002001caba22$5d862fd0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
	<4B8D7F7D.9010401@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <8D730646CD3C4AB7B45B9E6DE16F64ED@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 3:13 PM
To: "Poly-Sci List" <polysci_101 at justbrits.com>
Cc: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject) Congress

... They name their own salaries and benefits,
which they receive for life after only one term in office. ...

Kate

====================
I have read this crap for hours now with a combination of disinterest and 
distaste.  But, for God's sake, if you are going to make statements, at 
least summon up enough brain power to check them out for accuracy.  This 
crap is getting ridiculous.

LAD 

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Mar  2 18:54:12 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:54:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <1071697096.5169871267572843095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1071697096.5169871267572843095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B8DC144.5030003@justbrits.com>

<< makes framing kinda tough. >>

er, why Ryan ????

Ed

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue Mar  2 19:20:37 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 02:20:37 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4B8DC144.5030003@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <1941529228.5249251267582837453.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

cheap frames come in sizes of 8x10 10x12 or 11x14 when the poster is 10x11 3/4 without matting it to an odd size it is a pain in the butt or cost 10x as much for custom framing. 
ryan 


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Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2010 8:54:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th 

<< makes framing kinda tough. >> 

er, why Ryan ???? 

Ed 

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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  2 19:55:17 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:55:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Locost 7
Message-ID: <552012.81507.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Anyone built a Lotus 7 based on the "Build Your Own Sportscar for as Little as
250 Pounds" book?  Looks like a fun project when I finally retire.  Frank
could probably do it in a coupe of days.

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 20:01:36 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:01:36 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <214316.24095.qm@web81604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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*Okay,if you are a car person (motor head) you will enjoy this.*




 Car lovers ...... you ain't goina believe this.






  http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=p1cLfiVSyrw




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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Mar  2 20:01:56 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 19:01:56 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Locost 7
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There are web sites that speak to this.
Just be sure you can register it in your state/province/shire.
...bill in oregon
=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:55 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Locost 7

Anyone built a Lotus 7 based on the "Build Your Own Sportscar for as Little
as
250 Pounds" book?  Looks like a fun project when I finally retire.  Frank
could probably do it in a coupe of days.

Rick

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 20:05:22 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:05:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Locost 7
In-Reply-To: <402188521003021902h4d0244b2i96993b0a276ddb38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <552012.81507.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<402188521003021902h4d0244b2i96993b0a276ddb38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003021905m685c550bt357063d74e8d9462@mail.gmail.com>

I kinda like the looks of the Flyin' Miata Westfield 7
http://www.flyinmiata.com/westfield/

Besides, it gives Keith Tanner someplace to sell the leftover
drivetrains from his LS3-powered Miatas...
http://flyinmiata.com/V8/Dan/index.php?UID=65
David L

From banjojohn at cox.net  Tue Mar  2 20:08:00 2010
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:08:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] su needles source
Message-ID: <9B9ACDADA7A948FDB77C7AA18407C8A5@authorizf47d14>

Hi List

Where can I order SU needles?  Also. Is the a K&N air filter that fits the
HS2 SU carb that will work in a Bugeye?

Thanks for your collective wisdom.

John O'Brien

'61 bugeye (1275)

'65 BJ8

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar  2 20:31:46 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:31:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] su needles source
In-Reply-To: <9B9ACDADA7A948FDB77C7AA18407C8A5@authorizf47d14>
References: <9B9ACDADA7A948FDB77C7AA18407C8A5@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <4B8DD822.1090703@comcast.net>

John O'Brien wrote:
> Hi List
>
> Where can I order SU needles?  Also. Is the a K&N air filter that fits the
> HS2 SU carb that will work in a Bugeye?
>
>   
Su needles can be had from Burlen Fuel Systems    http://www.burlen.co.uk/
I have K&N filters on my daughter's Bugeye, I did have to turn them 
upsidedown and redrill the carb vent hole
on each filter base but they work, the covers are right side up.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Mar  2 21:05:56 2010
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 23:05:56 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] su needles source
Message-ID: <1cb8d.2dc620ac.38bf3a24@aol.com>

For SU needles or other parts in the States, try _http://www.joecurto.com/_ 
(http://www.joecurto.com/) 
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Mar  3 07:42:48 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:42:48 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] V-B Sale over-not quite
Message-ID: <20100303.074248.23106.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>

Hey all,
I was delaying buying a new windshield for the '58 even though V-B had them
for $100, finally went to order it this morning and the online catalog tried
to bill me $140, so I called. The catalog has changed, but the online catalog
still has the sale prices. If you call them, you can still get the sale prices
until the online catalog catches up with the mailer.
If you've been putting off anything that you want from their catalog, buy it
now if it was on sale.


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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Mar  3 10:40:20 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:40:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in
Message-ID: <FB4E3609870A491BAA01C0B52840C6BD@Home>

Online, there  appears to be a difference in advice on breaking in a new cam (go easy) vs new piston rings (go hard). What thoughts?

Michael Rowe
New 1275+ engine in progress

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Mar  3 01:42:08 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:42:08 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
References: <1941529228.5249251267582837453.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <637A98B91AF945159F0A5BF545C673E4@user8634b3d69b>

I'm surprised you can you look after, maintain and care for a Spridget, 
keeping that on the road - without the ability to knock 1/4 inch off two 
bits of wood or plastic frame.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
To: "Shop at \" Just Brits \" <shop at justbrits.com>
Cc: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th


> cheap frames come in sizes of 8x10 10x12 or 11x14 when the poster is 10x11 
> 3/4 without matting it to an odd size it is a pain in the butt or cost 10x 
> as much for custom framing.
> ryan
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shop at \" Just Brits \"" <shop at justbrits.com>
> To: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2010 8:54:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
>
> << makes framing kinda tough. >>
>
> er, why Ryan ????
>
> Ed
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Mar  3 07:46:29 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:46:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Locost 7
In-Reply-To: <552012.81507.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <552012.81507.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <87d2rg$8562c4@email.mtu.edu>

Rick,
Yes, sorta. Years ago I found a pdf file of the "cut list" in CAD 
format for all the tubes that make the "book" Locost. Each CAD 
drawing is for one tube. I built a 1/4 scale model to prove out the 
CAD work - just to be sure the document was accurate. I have some 
pics around here, but can't locate them just now. I'm just amazed at 
how small the model is and then think how small the full size car is. 
I believe the Lotus S3 - not the book model - used BMC components 
throughout - engine to rear axle. I have seen a picture of one Locost 
that used Spridget A arms, axles and I think lever shocks too.
Tim

At 09:55 PM 3/2/2010, HealeyRick wrote:
>Anyone built a Lotus 7 based on the "Build Your Own Sportscar for as Little as
>250 Pounds" book?  Looks like a fun project when I finally retire.  Frank
>could probably do it in a coupe of days.
>
>Rick

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  3 11:02:34 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 10:02:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in
In-Reply-To: <FB4E3609870A491BAA01C0B52840C6BD@Home>
References: <FB4E3609870A491BAA01C0B52840C6BD@Home>
Message-ID: <604201.48209.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Michael,
I guess it depends on which is the more expensive component and/or
which is easier to replace.  When I built my similar displacement Triumph
engine a few years back, the guys that ground the cam for me had very specific
instructions regarding break-in.  I've forgotten the exact details, but it was
something like 1,500 rpm for 15 minutes on initial start-up. May be a bit off
on the time, but remember the RPM. I would think that after you get the cam
happy with its new surroundings you can proceed with breaking in the rings and
everything else however you'd like. 

But then again, I've never built a 1275
and don't know what cam you have and all that, so you should wait for more
solid advice from the rest of the list.

 - David Booker
________________________________
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To:
Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 12:40:20 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in

Online, there  appears to be a difference in
advice on breaking in a new cam (go easy) vs new piston rings (go hard). What
thoughts?

Michael Rowe
New 1275+ engine in progress
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Mar  3 06:59:21 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:59:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003022150j6ecc1df8j9a121a3f25aa9f6a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1058393862.5371911267624761172.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

when I ordered it from cafe press they only had one size available and it was
the "Small Poster for MG Midget Golden Anniversary "
Product Information
Perfect for dressing up any wall, or instantly creating a theme for a room.
Images look great on this high-quality poster, printed on heavyweight 7 mil
semi-gloss paper using superior dye inks. Image size 16b X 20b. Treat
yourself or give as a gift.

i ordered it as a birthday gift from my mom to me back in December. when it
came it was in this unusual size. 10"x11 3/4
ryan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 3, 2010 12:50:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th

Ryan,

Is that the poster from the Cafepress store? If there is a problem, I'll work
with Gerard to get a better size for it. Cafepress only offers two sizes - 16"
x 20" and 23" x 35". Having them made elsewhere would mean paying for bulk
printing, stocking them, and mailing them out with packaging, S&H. If you are
using the download from the Sprite-MidgetClub website, you should be able to
resize it in a graphics program. That poster was lower resolution and meant to
be used as a flyer for the event rather than a keepsake...

Let me know - I'll make it right for you

Cheers!!
Jim


On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:34 PM, < ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > wrote:


while we are loosley on the subject... who deceided on having the poster be a
really odd size of 10"x11 3/4"??? makes framing kinda tough.

Ryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Lieb" < 72spridget at gmail.com >
To: "Skip Jackson" < jackson.skip at yahoo.com >
Cc: "spridget" < spridgets at autox.team.net >
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2010 5:40:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th

> Where and when is the Spridget 50th? Skip J.

http://sprite-midgetclub.org/
Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin (Road America) June 2011
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From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  3 03:58:11 2010
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 02:58:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Locost 7
In-Reply-To: <552012.81507.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <552012.81507.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <251109.43845.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I'm considering this as my next project.  Ron Champion's book (the one you
mention) is out of print and expensive to buy.  It has been replaced by Chris
Gibbs' book.  I've read Gibbs, Keith Tanner, and Gary Brizendine.  I need to
get the space frame plans from McSorely yet.  If you want to design a fine
tuned racing suspension they also suggest reading Stainforth, Milliken, Puhn,
and VanVaulkenburgh.  A good reference on fasteners is Carroll Smith's book,
but it, too, is quite expensive.  I am now in the process of wading through
everything on the USA Locost forum that has a wealth of information. 
http://www.locostusa.com/forums/  Now all I need is the time and money to get
started.  I have begun looking for a Mazda MX5 Miata junker as a donor car. 
Doug Altman    ....o~'o 


________________________________
From: HealeyRick
<healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.netGibbs
Sent: Tue, March 2,
2010 9:55:17 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Locost 7

Anyone built a Lotus 7 based on
the "Build Your Own Sportscar for as Little as
250 Pounds" book?  Looks like a
fun project when I finally retire.  Frank
could probably do it in a coupe of
days.

Rick


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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 06:33:35 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 08:33:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Email address for Les Myer of Sprite site Puddle Jumper
Message-ID: <205cef431003030533w4ea893f0n80e98214cf5d45b0@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have an updated email address for Les Myer of the Sprite site
pdljmpr.tripod.com aka Puddle Jumper.
site:
http://pdljmpr.tripod.com/contents.htm

I emailed PDLJMPRWebMagazine at gmail.com but it came back. I have some
computer science students offering to resurect this site and I will
spearhead the project.
Thanks Lin

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  3 12:11:40 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:11:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in
In-Reply-To: <604201.48209.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <932745.84706.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

1500 will be on the verge of scuffing the cam. Run 2500 - 3000 for at least 20
minutes.

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Break-in
> To: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>, "Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 12:02 PM
> Michael,
> I guess it depends on which is the more expensive component
> and/or
> which is easier to replace.  When I built my similar
> displacement Triumph
> engine a few years back, the guys that ground the cam for
> me had very specific
> instructions regarding break-in.  I've forgotten the
> exact details, but it was
> something like 1,500 rpm for 15 minutes on initial
> start-up. May be a bit off
> on the time, but remember the RPM. I would think that after
> you get the cam
> happy with its new surroundings you can proceed with
> breaking in the rings and
> everything else however you'd like.
>
> But then again, I've never built a 1275
> and don't know what cam you have and all that, so you
> should wait for more
> solid advice from the rest of the list.
>
>  - David Booker
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
> To:
> Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, March 3, 2010 12:40:20 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in
>
> Online, there  appears to be a difference in
> advice on breaking in a new cam (go easy) vs new piston
> rings (go hard). What
> thoughts?
>
> Michael Rowe
> New 1275+ engine in progress
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Mar  3 13:44:39 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 14:44:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in
In-Reply-To: <932745.84706.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <932745.84706.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <324DBE6E-4B74-4B7F-A54C-43DF94933378@comcast.net>

Yup, that's what I was told for my go fast engine.  No, it's not  
installed yet, still trying to get the Jag out of the shop to make  
room..

Lester


On Mar 3, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Ron Soave wrote:

> 1500 will be on the verge of scuffing the cam. Run 2500 - 3000 for  
> at least 20
> minutes.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Mar  3 14:11:05 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:11:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <637A98B91AF945159F0A5BF545C673E4@user8634b3d69b>
References: <1941529228.5249251267582837453.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<637A98B91AF945159F0A5BF545C673E4@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <0B2318E29B2441CFB24DB633A0676983@RickPC>

How do you easily knock a quarter inch off of the glass?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com>
To: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>; "Shop at \" Just Brits \" 
<shop at justbrits.com>
Cc: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th


> I'm surprised you can you look after, maintain and care for a Spridget,
> keeping that on the road - without the ability to knock 1/4 inch off two
> bits of wood or plastic frame.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Mar  3 14:15:00 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:15:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <0B2318E29B2441CFB24DB633A0676983@RickPC>
Message-ID: <616453.18107.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I'll take a stab at this.

With a glass cutter?

jay

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:11 PM

How do you easily knock a quarter inch off of the glass?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com>
To: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>; "Shop at \" Just Brits \" <shop at justbrits.com>
Cc: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th


> I'm surprised you can you look after, maintain and care for a Spridget,
> keeping that on the road - without the ability to knock 1/4 inch off two
> bits of wood or plastic frame.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Mar  3 14:20:11 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:20:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <616453.18107.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <616453.18107.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0DF27E483AE54A028CBF7009D026B396@RickPC>

Even with a brandy-new glass cutter 1/4 inch is next to impossible to 
remove.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th


> I'll take a stab at this.
>
> With a glass cutter?
>
> jay
>
> --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
>
> From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:11 PM
>
> How do you easily knock a quarter inch off of the glass?

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Mar  3 14:24:07 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:24:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <0DF27E483AE54A028CBF7009D026B396@RickPC>
Message-ID: <446125.233.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well then I guess you would just buy a piece of glass at the glass company.

jay

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:20 PM

Even with a brandy-new glass cutter 1/4 inch is next to impossible to 
remove.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Mar  3 14:32:26 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:32:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <446125.233.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <446125.233.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D19F62941C11429F8D9FF3E77B67E51F@RickPC>

Now we're back to the expensive frame situation.  Why not just print the 
poster on a standard size piece of paper?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th


> Well then I guess you would just buy a piece of glass at the glass 
> company.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
>
> From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 4:20 PM
>
> Even with a brandy-new glass cutter 1/4 inch is next to impossible to
> remove.
>
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From stargazer1 at cox.net  Wed Mar  3 14:47:49 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:47:49 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <0DF27E483AE54A028CBF7009D026B396@RickPC>
References: <616453.18107.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<0DF27E483AE54A028CBF7009D026B396@RickPC>
Message-ID: <4B8ED905.5060307@cox.net>

On 3/3/2010 1:20 PM, Rick Fisk wrote:
> Even with a brandy-new glass cutter 1/4 inch is next to impossible to 
> remove.
I've done this a few times. Score the glass deeply, then use the notches 
in the glass cutter to engage the glass and break it on the score. It 
helps a lot of the notches are a tight fit over the glass.

Cheers,
Dave

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Mar  3 14:52:07 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:52:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in
In-Reply-To: <324DBE6E-4B74-4B7F-A54C-43DF94933378@comcast.net>
References: <932745.84706.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<324DBE6E-4B74-4B7F-A54C-43DF94933378@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <40162.99272.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ed & everybody else who straightened me out on this:

OK - So maybe the
memory's not what it used to be and it was 2500, not 1500 RPM after all.  All
I know is that I did EXACTLY what the guys at Snyder Racing in California told
me to do when they built the cam and it was a pretty rowdy little engine as a
result. 

I also used Terry progressive rate valve springs, some kind of trick
(recommended by a friend) multi-angle valve grind, did some porting with my
dremel, added a header, twin SU rather than the stock single carb, and various
other special bits. Best of all, when it came time to pick out the pistons,
push rods, valves and other reciprocating mass bits, I sat in the Beck/Arnley
warehouse floor with parts spread out all around me.  With the help of a handy
gram scale I had laying around (for some reason or other), I eventually came
up with basically a poor-man's balanced engine.  It was a fun little car.
David Booker
Long Island

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Mar  3 15:02:41 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:02:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in
In-Reply-To: <40162.99272.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <932745.84706.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<324DBE6E-4B74-4B7F-A54C-43DF94933378@comcast.net>
	<40162.99272.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8EF9BC9A-A1FC-44EC-94A4-22DF3CF55884@comcast.net>

You lucky son of a gun!  That's the way the factory would build  
'stock' racing engines with just those few extra RPM's in 'em..

Lester


On Mar 3, 2010, at 3:52 PM, David Booker wrote:

> Ed & everybody else who straightened me out on this:
>
> OK - So maybe the
> memory's not what it used to be and it was 2500, not 1500 RPM after  
> all.  All
> I know is that I did EXACTLY what the guys at Snyder Racing in  
> California told
> me to do when they built the cam and it was a pretty rowdy little  
> engine as a
> result.
>
> I also used Terry progressive rate valve springs, some kind of trick
> (recommended by a friend) multi-angle valve grind, did some porting  
> with my
> dremel, added a header, twin SU rather than the stock single carb,  
> and various
> other special bits. Best of all, when it came time to pick out the  
> pistons,
> push rods, valves and other reciprocating mass bits, I sat in the  
> Beck/Arnley
> warehouse floor with parts spread out all around me.  With the help  
> of a handy
> gram scale I had laying around (for some reason or other), I  
> eventually came
> up with basically a poor-man's balanced engine.  It was a fun little  
> car.
> David Booker
> Long Island
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 15:24:04 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:24:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4B8ED905.5060307@cox.net>
References: <616453.18107.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<0DF27E483AE54A028CBF7009D026B396@RickPC> <4B8ED905.5060307@cox.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003031424m456c2183u10cfac5ccfe4e2b9@mail.gmail.com>

For now I suggest take your pane of glass to a local window/glass shop. They
can take 1/4 inch off of it for a couple of bucks or a 6 pack.  Meanwhile,
cut 1/4" off the 45 degree mitre on each side. A Dremel with a cut-off disk
will do this cleanly.

Failing that, get a 16" x 20" frame and a sheet of 16" x 20" matte from
Hobby Lobby or similar place. You cut the matte on a bias with an Exacto
knife and a steel straight edge. You can cut it to exactly fit the poster
you have. Most Hobby type stores would cut the matte for you with a
professional matte cutter for a little bit of nothing.

FYI...  My bad!  I was not aware of this dimension problem with the poster.
Now that Ryan has identified the problem I have taken down the poster from
the Sprite-MidgetClub store temporarily. The artist is going to resize the
poster. When that is done, It will go back up on the store.  The small size
will be a correct 16"x20" and the large poster size will be 23" x 35".  I
will post to the list when these are ready and available. Probably a couple
of months given the artist's workload and the fact that it is being done pro
bono.

Hope this helps....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:47 PM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:

> On 3/3/2010 1:20 PM, Rick Fisk wrote:
>
>> Even with a brandy-new glass cutter 1/4 inch is next to impossible to
>> remove.
>>
> I've done this a few times. Score the glass deeply, then use the notches in
> the glass cutter to engage the glass and break it on the score. It helps a
> lot of the notches are a tight fit over the glass.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Mar  3 15:30:35 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:30:35 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
References: <1941529228.5249251267582837453.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><637A98B91AF945159F0A5BF545C673E4@user8634b3d69b>
	<0B2318E29B2441CFB24DB633A0676983@RickPC>
Message-ID: <3F37470F60EA4E699552BABBF55CBA13@user8634b3d69b>

Here's a few suggestions....

1)  You start by filing your teeth and nibbling.... :-)
2)  Get the glass cutter, use it to scribe a line and snap the excess off. 
I've lent my brother-in-law my last glass cutter - I'll never see it again!
3)  Take it to the glass selling shop - the last one I did I took to a 
double glazed window makers and the guy there did it, refusing to take any 
payment whatsoever.
4)  Grind it down using wet 'n dry paper - the same way you take chips out 
of the rim on a wine glass or champagne flute.
5)  Sharpen the smoothing plane at an angle of 53 degrees and use long slow 
strokes.
6)  Hold the piece in the sheet metal bending tool then tap with a hammer.
7)  Use Perspex sheeting.
8)  Use the same saw you cut the wood with held at a much shallower angle.

The clue here is that three of these ways will work although one of them is 
'tacky'. One way is not so easily done but possible and four of them could 
be downright impossible.  Today's task is decide which is which.  <Smile>


All the best

Guy R Day


nb   for a 1/4 inch section scribe your line, a tad of pressure down from 
the line side and tap along the scribed line from underneath.  On thin 
picture glass it isn't too hard; on thicker window glass there's much more 
chance of cracking.
Also - watch a mobile glass fitter putting laminated glass into a shaped 
window outline (say on a JCB digger) and see how he cuts curved corners.  He 
should be able to cut a hole through two layers of glass either side of a 
layer of plastic.  It puts my efforts to shame.  My Grandfather could, I 
can't.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th


> How do you easily knock a quarter inch off of the glass?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com>
> To: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>; "Shop at \" Just Brits \" 
> <shop at justbrits.com>
> Cc: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 3:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
>
>
>> I'm surprised you can you look after, maintain and care for a Spridget,
>> keeping that on the road - without the ability to knock 1/4 inch off two
>> bits of wood or plastic frame.
>
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Mar  3 15:46:27 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:46:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <3F37470F60EA4E699552BABBF55CBA13@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <20100303224627.674YZ.8347.root@hrndva-web14-z02>

Do they make a Wentworth size frame?

Chris


---- Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote: 
> Here's a few suggestions....

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 16:01:53 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:01:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <20100303224627.674YZ.8347.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
References: <3F37470F60EA4E699552BABBF55CBA13@user8634b3d69b>
	<20100303224627.674YZ.8347.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003031501y11b65840u9f706064308a0952@mail.gmail.com>

Dunno, Chris...   (I know I'm gonna regret asking this...) What size is a
"Wentworth"?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:46 PM, <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:

> Do they make a Wentworth size frame?
>
> Chris
>
>
> ---- Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > Here's a few suggestions....

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Mar  3 16:08:00 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:08:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003031501y11b65840u9f706064308a0952@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100303230800.BD0SS.8579.root@hrndva-web14-z02>

aren't Wentworth the oddball sized nuts and bolts that metric and SAE just don't fit right...?  
---- Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Dunno, Chris...   (I know I'm gonna regret asking this...) What size is a
> "Wentworth"?
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> 
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:46 PM, <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> > Do they make a Wentworth size frame?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > ---- Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > Here's a few suggestions....

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 16:11:17 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:11:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <20100303230800.BD0SS.8579.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
References: <43840a7e1003031501y11b65840u9f706064308a0952@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100303230800.BD0SS.8579.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003031511m634476f0t9db17b2051f6bd5e@mail.gmail.com>

Groan!!!

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:08 PM, <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:

> aren't Wentworth the oddball sized nuts and bolts that metric and SAE just
> don't fit right...?
> ---- Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dunno, Chris...   (I know I'm gonna regret asking this...) What size is a
> > "Wentworth"?
> >
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:46 PM, <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Do they make a Wentworth size frame?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > Here's a few suggestions....
> > >
>



--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From lists at dinospider.com  Wed Mar  3 16:12:48 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (mike rambour)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:12:48 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <20100303230800.BD0SS.8579.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
References: <20100303230800.BD0SS.8579.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
Message-ID: <1267657968.25002.53.camel@WebBrowser>

 Whitworth !!!  its not oddball it was the first standard size so all
the others are really the oddball size.

 myOn Wed, 2010-03-03 at 17:08 -0600, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote:
> aren't Wentworth the oddball sized nuts and bolts that metric and SAE just don't fit right...?  
> ---- Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > Dunno, Chris...   (I know I'm gonna regret asking this...) What size is a
> > "Wentworth"?
> > 
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:46 PM, <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Do they make a Wentworth size frame?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > Here's a few suggestions....
> 
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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Wed Mar  3 16:16:10 2010
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:16:10 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
Message-ID: <33e76.4b9cf0e0.38c047ba@aol.com>

Jim,
 
Please tell me you're kidding, and that you're really NOT serious about  
having the poster re-sized because of this.
 
Howard

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 16:22:33 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:22:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <1267657968.25002.53.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <20100303230800.BD0SS.8579.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
	<1267657968.25002.53.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003031522p210f3523k11c63c9ab544a25b@mail.gmail.com>

Okay...  I'm gullible...  In US Dollars, exactly what is a Whit worth?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 5:12 PM, mike rambour <lists at dinospider.com> wrote:

>  Whitworth !!!  its not oddball it was the first standard size so all
> the others are really the oddball size.
>
>  myOn Wed, 2010-03-03 at 17:08 -0600, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote:
> > aren't Wentworth the oddball sized nuts and bolts that metric and SAE
> just don't fit right...?
> > ---- Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dunno, Chris...   (I know I'm gonna regret asking this...) What size is
> a
> > > "Wentworth"?
> > >
> > > Cheers!!
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:46 PM, <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do they make a Wentworth size frame?
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---- Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > > Here's a few suggestions....
> >
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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Mar  3 16:35:31 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:35:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <20100303224627.674YZ.8347.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
References: <20100303224627.674YZ.8347.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
Message-ID: <4B8EF243.5060401@justbrits.com>

<< Do they make a Wentworth size frame? >>

Nope Chris, nor nuts & bolts <G> !!

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Mar  3 17:56:06 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:56:06 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003031522p210f3523k11c63c9ab544a25b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100303230800.BD0SS.8579.root@hrndva-web14-z02>
	<1267657968.25002.53.camel@WebBrowser>
	<43840a7e1003031522p210f3523k11c63c9ab544a25b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <221242.1693.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I'd like to know that!
Especially when they say "I don't give a whit!"

 Dave G.


----- Original Message ----
> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Okay...  I'm gullible...  In US Dollars, exactly what is a Whit worth?

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 18:21:54 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 17:21:54 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Great pictures of Central Oregon
In-Reply-To: <SNT133-ds1944E3929B94B1B5DC5A1A8E390@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT133-ds1944E3929B94B1B5DC5A1A8E390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003031721m2eb70a94i6461c70162497d0c@mail.gmail.com>

Some of the places we can "cruise" to next time a major LBC event takes
place here in Oregon.
Not showing you the Southern and Eastern areas of Oregon (much less the
coast).  Too beautiful, wouldn't want you to move!
Did I mention we have a tad over three million people...you know, one person
per square mile (;-).
Herb





   *These were taken by a man who pilots an*

*Ultra-light Aircraft.*


Balloons over  Bend event.


North  Twin Lake near  Lapine , OR


Smith Rock near  Redmond, OR
 Tumalo Falls near  Bend,  OR

Mt.  Bachelor near Bend , OR with snow.




Mt.  Bachelor near Bend , OR summer
o?=

Lava Butte near Bend, OR


Painted Hills, near Mitchell, OR


Paulina and East Lakes near Lapine, OR


Fort Rock



Mt. Jefferson near Sisters and Madras, OR



Alkali Lake near Christmas Valley, OR


Alvord  Desert near Steens Mtn.


Wild Horses near the Alvord  Desert

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From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Mar  3 18:52:32 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:52:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <0B2318E29B2441CFB24DB633A0676983@RickPC>
References: <1941529228.5249251267582837453.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<637A98B91AF945159F0A5BF545C673E4@user8634b3d69b>
	<0B2318E29B2441CFB24DB633A0676983@RickPC>
Message-ID: <4B8F1260.8080503@justbrits.com>

<< How do you easily knock a quarter inch off of the glass?  >>

VERY accurate shot with a 28oz waffle-face BFH,
Rick ???

Bet Frank can do it <G> !!!

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Wed Mar  3 19:39:50 2010
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:39:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Locost 7
In-Reply-To: <402188521003021905m685c550bt357063d74e8d9462@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <552012.81507.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<402188521003021902h4d0244b2i96993b0a276ddb38@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188521003021905m685c550bt357063d74e8d9462@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100304024017.097DB18764B@autox.team.net>

The April 2010 issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car Magazine (Volume 
5, Issue 8) has a cover and an article on "Seventology", including 
numerous web site links.

It also has an article on the Sprite with the Jaguar 3.8 engine and 
one about the Heeson's beautiful father and son BRG/wirewheel Bugeye 
restoration out of California.

Bob


At 10:05 PM 3/2/2010, David Lieb wrote:
>I kinda like the looks of the Flyin' Miata Westfield 7
>http://www.flyinmiata.com/westfield/
>
>Besides, it gives Keith Tanner someplace to sell the leftover
>drivetrains from his LS3-powered Miatas...
>http://flyinmiata.com/V8/Dan/index.php?UID=65
>David L
>
>_______________________________________________

From montpaul at msn.com  Wed Mar  3 19:42:30 2010
From: montpaul at msn.com (PAUL SHERMAN)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 18:42:30 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
In-Reply-To: <1267657968.25002.53.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <20100303230800.BD0SS.8579.root@hrndva-web14-z02>,
	<1267657968.25002.53.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <SNT128-W38BE95A8291F46B084525CD5390@phx.gbl>

You all are about to start asking about Henway's.

Spring will come soon.




> From: lists at dinospider.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:12:48 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
>
> Whitworth !!! its not oddball it was the first standard size so all
> the others are really the oddball size.
>
> myOn Wed, 2010-03-03 at 17:08 -0600, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote:
> > aren't Wentworth the oddball sized nuts and bolts that metric and SAE just
don't fit right...?
> > ---- Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Dunno, Chris... (I know I'm gonna regret asking this...) What size is a
> > > "Wentworth"?
> > >
> > > Cheers!!
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 4:46 PM, <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do they make a Wentworth size frame?
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---- Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > > Here's a few suggestions....
> >
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From banjojohn at cox.net  Wed Mar  3 20:21:48 2010
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:21:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] su needles source
In-Reply-To: <1cb8d.2dc620ac.38bf3a24@aol.com>
References: <1cb8d.2dc620ac.38bf3a24@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C4AF9B64BB0C4B6FB7AB76C68DAFDDF3@authorizf47d14>

Thanks to all who responded.  I talked to Joe Curto today and got needles
and springs ordered, and then talked to Phil at APT and have K&N Filters and
stub stacks on their way.   I'm looking forward to see the results.

John O'Brien

'61 Bugeye, 

'65 BJ8

 

  _____  

From: Miniac7 at aol.com [mailto:Miniac7 at aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:06 PM
To: banjojohn at cox.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] su needles source

 

For SU needles or other parts in the States, try http://www.joecurto.com/

 

Howard Collins

Virginia Beach, VA.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar  4 05:36:15 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 04:36:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in
In-Reply-To: <8EF9BC9A-A1FC-44EC-94A4-22DF3CF55884@comcast.net>
References: <932745.84706.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<324DBE6E-4B74-4B7F-A54C-43DF94933378@comcast.net>
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You lucky son of a gun!  That's the way the factory would build 'stock' racing
engines with just those few extra RPM's in 'em.. Lester

Yes - There were
definite benefits to working at Beck/Arnley all those years. The Terry springs
had actually been returned as part of a stock adjustment so I was able to buy
what was probably a hundred dollars worth of springs for maybe 15 or so (my
employee cost for a set of stock valve springs). That was a HUGE find out in
the parts bins on my part. I remember thinking it was my lucky day when I saw
that name on the box and opened it up to find the progressive windings -
perfect for my hot cam!

 - David




________________________________

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Mar  4 08:10:11 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:10:11 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car
Message-ID: <C01201159CF2452B896DA8C4331530C8@leovs802bt6yj7>

Here is a car specifically built for Frank by his "friends"  .  ROFL

http://quasi-superspooge.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-single-seat-vw.html




Subject: Single Person Car




















                                Volkswagen's $600 car gets 258 mpg -- It looks
like Ford, Chrysler and GM missed the boat again!


                                China launches $600 car that will get 258 mpg

                                This $600 car is no toy and is ready to be
released in China next year.

                                The single seater aero car totes VW
(Volkswagen) branding.

                                Volkswagen did a lot of very highly protected
testing of this car in Germany, but it was not announced until now where the
car would make it's first appearance.

                                The car was introduced at the VW stockholders
meeting as the most economical car in the world is presented.

                                The initial objective of the prototype was to
prove that 1 liter of fuel could deliver 100 kilos of travel.




                                Spartan interior doesn't sacrifice safety

                                The aero design proved essential to getting
the desired result. The body is 3.47 meters long and just 1.25 meters wide,
and a little over a meter high. The prototype was made completely of carbon
fiber and is not painted to save weight.

                                The power plant is a one cylinder diesel
positioned ahead of the rear axle and combined with an automatic shift
controlled by a knob in the interior.

                                Safety was not compromised as the impact and
roll-over protection is comparable to the GT racing cars.




                                $600 car gets 258 mpg

                                The Most Economic Car in the World will be on
sale next year:

                                Better than Electric Car o?= 258 miles/gallon:
IPO 2010 in Shanghai

                                This is a single seated car

                                From conception to production: 3 years and the
company is headquartered in Hamburg , Germany ..

                                Will be selling for 4000 yuan, equivalent to
US$600..

                                Gas tank capacity = 1.7 gallons

                                Speed = 62 o?= 74.6 Miles/hour

                                Fuel efficiency = 258 miles/gallon

                                Travel distance with a full tank = 404 miles




                                Volkswagen 258 mpg car on sale in 2010




















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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar  4 09:11:03 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 08:11:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car
In-Reply-To: <C01201159CF2452B896DA8C4331530C8@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <C01201159CF2452B896DA8C4331530C8@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <289150.67453.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Reminds me of the little cars built by Messerschmitt

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Leo S <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 7:10:11 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car

Here is a car specifically built for Frank by his "friends"  .  ROFL

http://quasi-superspooge.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-single-seat-vw.html




Subject: Single Person Car




















                                Volkswagen's $600 car gets 258 mpg -- It looks
like Ford, Chrysler and GM missed the boat again!


                                China launches $600 car that will get 258 mpg

                                This $600 car is no toy and is ready to be
released in China next year.

                                The single seater aero car totes VW
(Volkswagen) branding.

                                Volkswagen did a lot of very highly protected
testing of this car in Germany, but it was not announced until now where the
car would make it's first appearance.

                                The car was introduced at the VW stockholders
meeting as the most economical car in the world is presented.

                                The initial objective of the prototype was to
prove that 1 liter of fuel could deliver 100 kilos of travel.




                                Spartan interior doesn't sacrifice safety

                                The aero design proved essential to getting
the desired result. The body is 3.47 meters long and just 1.25 meters wide,
and a little over a meter high. The prototype was made completely of carbon
fiber and is not painted to save weight.

                                The power plant is a one cylinder diesel
positioned ahead of the rear axle and combined with an automatic shift
controlled by a knob in the interior.

                                Safety was not compromised as the impact and
roll-over protection is comparable to the GT racing cars.




                                $600 car gets 258 mpg

                                The Most Economic Car in the World will be on
sale next year:

                                Better than Electric Car o?= 258 miles/gallon:
IPO 2010 in Shanghai

                                This is a single seated car

                                From conception to production: 3 years and the
company is headquartered in Hamburg , Germany ..

                                Will be selling for 4000 yuan, equivalent to
US$600..

                                Gas tank capacity = 1.7 gallons

                                Speed = 62 o?= 74.6 Miles/hour

                                Fuel efficiency = 258 miles/gallon

                                Travel distance with a full tank = 404 miles




                                Volkswagen 258 mpg car on sale in 2010




















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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar  4 10:17:51 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:17:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax
In-Reply-To: <C01201159CF2452B896DA8C4331530C8@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <C01201159CF2452B896DA8C4331530C8@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <396103.11110.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It's funny how many times this set of pics has been resurected via the web
with similar tales of how you will be able to buy it in China for some
ridiculously low price - Not happening. 

I saw the car in an industry
magazine a few years ago. It was built as a one-off experiment to showcase the
fuel economy prowess/technology of VW.  Seems like the President of the
company then drove it across Europe or across Germany to a specific
destination and the mileage figures were then displayed at a show or something
like that. It was an attempt to get something like 1,000 km out of a liter of
fuel. 

Has nothing to do with China and it cost WAY more than $600 to build,
let alone sell.  Wish I could find more about the real details, but the web is
full of all the B.S. stories about buying them in China. This inevitably
brings out all the folks who then use it to justify their belief that the
government is buying and killing such technologies in order to keep the big
oil companies rolling in our money...

Does look a bit like a modern
Messerschmidt though, doesn't it?

David Booker
http://quasi-superspooge.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-single-seat-vw.html

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Mar  4 11:43:34 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:43:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Toy for Guys
In-Reply-To: <ABFFDD93A54C7F45A083637B9912B5AF2CA525@hch-svr1.hch.local>
References: <ABFFDD93A54C7F45A083637B9912B5AF2CA525@hch-svr1.hch.local>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003041043s2490039bh6b12d11fc3583896@mail.gmail.com>

I want one.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9XAC-BvUyo



<http://www.incredimail.com/?id=606430&rui=116015630>






-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar  4 12:04:34 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:04:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax
In-Reply-To: <396103.11110.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C01201159CF2452B896DA8C4331530C8@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<396103.11110.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <531546.35327.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I thought I would share since some don't know what a Messerschmitt looks like.  I plan on going to this museum before I die!

http://www.microcarmuseum.com/

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 9:17:51 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax

It's funny how many times this set of pics has been resurected via the web
with similar tales of how you will be able to buy it in China for some
ridiculously low price - Not happening. 

I saw the car in an industry
magazine a few years ago. It was built as a one-off experiment to showcase the
fuel economy prowess/technology of VW.  Seems like the President of the
company then drove it across Europe or across Germany to a specific
destination and the mileage figures were then displayed at a show or something
like that. It was an attempt to get something like 1,000 km out of a liter of
fuel. 

Has nothing to do with China and it cost WAY more than $600 to build,
let alone sell.  Wish I could find more about the real details, but the web is
full of all the B.S. stories about buying them in China. This inevitably
brings out all the folks who then use it to justify their belief that the
government is buying and killing such technologies in order to keep the big
oil companies rolling in our money...

Does look a bit like a modern
Messerschmidt though, doesn't it?

David Booker
http://quasi-superspooge.blogspot.com/2009/05/new-single-seat-vw.html
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Mar  4 12:38:08 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:38:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax
In-Reply-To: <531546.35327.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C01201159CF2452B896DA8C4331530C8@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<396103.11110.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<531546.35327.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003041138g38b000bcn35d900a7f8c460de@mail.gmail.com>

Edward,
You DO realize that the 2010 World Micro Car Meet is in August just up
the street from me, right?
David L

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Mar  4 12:51:47 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:51:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax
In-Reply-To: <396103.11110.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <962573.82877.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

The single person car is not a hoax.

Every day I see Expeditions, Excursions, and Hummers with just one single person in them. Once in awhile I even see them being driven by someone who weighs more than 100 lbs.

jay

--- On Thu, 3/4/10, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 12:17 PM

It's funny how many times this set of pics has been resurected via the web

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Mar  4 13:02:46 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:02:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax
In-Reply-To: <781548.97367.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C01201159CF2452B896DA8C4331530C8@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<396103.11110.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<531546.35327.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188521003041138g38b000bcn35d900a7f8c460de@mail.gmail.com>
	<781548.97367.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003041202jd76fb7cv578a316c11a3233c@mail.gmail.com>

> No way, dude... got some info?

http://www.worldmeet2010.com/

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Mar  4 14:41:38 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:41:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A update
Message-ID: <4B902912.707@comcast.net>

 From Vigil


Please pass this on to any one who may know Paul.
 
On Paul -
 
I just got word that Paul suffered a "slight stroke" about a couple of 
weeks ago. 
Paul is having trouble with his speech and the use of his right arm.
He was in a stroke rehab facility in the Portland area.
Paul was making good progress so they discharged him Saturday.
He will be spending all of his time at his GF's house in Salem, OR. for now.
 
Note to update everyone - 
 
I did get to talk to Paul for a short time Saturday.
He has lost part of the use of his right side & it caused a speech problem.
He does have exercises and seems to be recovering the use of his right 
hand.
I was told the doctors were surprised on how fast Paul seems to be 
recovering over all.
Sunday i talked to Lillis his girl friend - Paul and her were going for 
a walk.
I did not want to hold them up - so it seems like he is doing well overall.
If you want to send Paul a card or letter  - you can at:

Paul Asgeirsson
854 Madrona Ave SE
Salem, OR 97302-2608
 
Vigil, 
 
What you wrote looks great.  Thanks so much for your concern
and support.  It is more difficult for me than I had thought, but we
have made it 3 days!  Paul had a visit from a  home health physical
therapist today.  He will also get home health for speech and
occupational therapy, thank goodness.  People can write emails to Paul
at lillis.larson at gmail.com 
<http://us.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lillis.larson at gmail.com>

Thanks again.  We still are not convinced that Paul can ever handle
Morriservice again...his memory has problems at the moment, which is
not uncommon.

Lillis
 
MorriService -
 
Depending on Paul's recovery and other things like if he gets to keep 
his driver license.
He may want to sell MorriService. Paul told me he had some offers in the 
past.
His communications is still not up to where he can tell the family who 
these people were.
I do not recall if he even mentioned who the people were or i just do 
not remember.
I was asked if i could find out who the prospective buyers were in case 
a future sale.
You will deal direct with the family - i will not be a middleman - just 
trying to help .
 
Joey and his brother intend on being in Portland around March/April.
If you have on going business & have Questions - email to his son Joey 
-  jasgeirsson at comcast.net 
<http://us.mc389.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jasgeirsson at comcast.net>
 
So as you can see there is good news - Paul is up & moving around & 
improving daily.
If you were interested in the past or now in MorriService please contact 
Joey or Paul.
 
Vigil

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar  4 14:41:33 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:41:33 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
Message-ID: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Anyone have a good source for rear wheel bearings?

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Mar  4 14:56:43 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:56:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
In-Reply-To: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201003041356136.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Go to your local APS or any bearing shop. Get a 6207  or better a 6207-2RS

         Peter C
===
At 03:41 PM 3/4/2010, Edward Perez wrote:
>Anyone have a good source for rear wheel bearings?
>
>  Edward Perez
>Snohomish, WA
>78 Midget (1275)
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Mar  4 16:13:15 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:13:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax
In-Reply-To: <962573.82877.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <962573.82877.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B903E8B.60602@justbrits.com>

<< The single person car is not a hoax.

Every day I see Expeditions, Excursions, and Hummers with just one single person in them. Once in awhile I even see them being driven by someone who weighs more than 100 lbs.  >>

Yer correct Jay, NO hoax !!!

Around here I see all the vehicles you mention PLUS Navigators
[most popular], Excursions & Escalades [ TIED - 2nd most popular], Suburbans [& GMC sister], the big Porsche, the UGLY Toyota [wonder if they STOP?], and the rest of the Far East "vehicles".

Our "drivers" are closer to 120 PLUS however much whichever
fur they are wearing !!!   LOL

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Mar  4 16:56:26 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:56:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax
In-Reply-To: <4B903E8B.60602@justbrits.com>
References: <962573.82877.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4B903E8B.60602@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4B9048AA.4020800@comcast.net>

Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
> << The single person car is not a hoax.
>
> Our "drivers" are closer to 120 PLUS however much whichever
> fur they are wearing !!!   LOL

Yous guys are lucky, I get to see the same thing in Escapades, Lexi 
jeeps, Effin Jap cruisers, and  all the other big boats but our drivers 
must need them as they are
300 pounds or better.
But the beach babes in thongs at the local coffee stop during the 
summer, who cares what they drive ;)

-- 
Frank 

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Mar  4 17:38:31 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:38:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Single Person Car hoax
In-Reply-To: <4B9048AA.4020800@comcast.net>
References: <962573.82877.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4B903E8B.60602@justbrits.com> <4B9048AA.4020800@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B905287.9090001@justbrits.com>

<< But the beach babes in thongs at the local coffee stop during
the summer, who cares what they drive ;) >>

The LADY Diane perhaps <VBEG> ????

Tiff who sees her OLD man ogling them ??

LMAO, 'cause the answer was TOO easy Frank !!

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Mar  5 08:02:22 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:02:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
Message-ID: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>

This looks like a cool idea for those who want to be able to take advantage of
extra garage height.



http://www.garador.ca/



I can't say that I like the look of it, but it does seem functional.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar  5 09:41:19 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:41:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The goal mounted above the door on one of the photos looks a bit scary to me. Surely I am not the only person in the world with a basketball-shaped dent in his garage door... If you put much of a dent in one of these things, would it still roll up? Probably not for those of us with teenage sons.
David Booker
Long Island

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Mar  5 10:23:13 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 17:23:13 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
In-Reply-To: <206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>,
	<206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W1E6C2414DEE183136CD0EB8380@phx.gbl>

Mine is a thick wood, but yeah, I remember what my parents' garage door looked
like.  ( puck marks. )



Other people have pointed out that there is probably no option of insulation.









Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:41:19 -0800






The goal mounted above the door on one of the photos looks a bit scary to me.
Surely I am not the only person in the world with a basketball-shaped dent in
his garage door... If you put much of a dent in one of these things, would it
still roll up? Probably not for those of us with teenage sons.
David Booker
Long Island

From lists at dinospider.com  Fri Mar  5 10:30:57 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (mike rambour)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:30:57 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
In-Reply-To: <206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>
	<206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1267810257.2344.0.camel@WebBrowser>

  I really wanted one of these doors for my garage to allow my car on
the lift when the door was open but they are not insulated and quite
noisy in the wind.  I took out the back wall of the garage and moved it
22 feet away instead :)

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar  5 11:14:06 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:14:06 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
Message-ID: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>

I wonder how quick it would go if they untaped the grille?
 
In a message dated 03/03/2010 03:08:29 GMT Standard Time,  
froggi60 at gmail.com writes:

Okay,if  you are a car person (motor head) you will enjoy this.*


Car lovers  ...... you ain't goina believe this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=p1cLfiVSyrw

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar  5 11:17:26 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:17:26 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Break-in
Message-ID: <17d2e.b99a0a3.38c2a4b6@aol.com>

Sounds more like it + I think it was the first 100 miles or something  that 
was most critcal for running in the engine.
 
In a message dated 03/03/2010 19:14:31 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com 
 writes:

Run 2500  - 3000 for at least 20
minutes.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar  5 11:20:43 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:20:43 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th
Message-ID: <180d3.1faadf6b.38c2a57b@aol.com>

Whitworth by Joseph Whitworth.  There is an interesting biography on  him 
if you like to read books.
 
In a message dated 03/03/2010 23:08:05 GMT Standard Time, cmanuel at wi.rr.com 
 writes:

aren't  Wentworth the oddball sized nuts and bolts that metric and SAE just 
don't fit  right...?  

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Mar  5 11:45:16 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:45:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
References: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
Message-ID: <209844.15235.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I'm just guessing but, as it had snowed earlier on that morning, the tape was probably needed to keep the engine temp in the right range - wind chill can be a big factor, especially when your cruising a around 200mph.

 Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>

> I wonder how quick it would go if they untaped the grille?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Mar  5 12:44:23 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:44:23 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
In-Reply-To: <1267810257.2344.0.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>,
	<206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<1267810257.2344.0.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W499B3F45469192932BEA67B8380@phx.gbl>

That would do it!!  :)



I have enough room for the lift.  My garage is something like 21 or 23 feet
deep inside.  Still, I have to be careful.



Someone on the Healey list said that they ( or some variant ) can be
insulated.


I'm not looking to change my garage door.  I'm more concerned about the floor
at this moment.  I just happened across it.


Robert

> From: lists at dinospider.com
>
> I really wanted one of these doors for my garage to allow my car on
> the lift when the door was open but they are not insulated and quite
> noisy in the wind. I took out the back wall of the garage and moved it
> 22 feet away instead :)

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Mar  5 12:49:37 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:49:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <209844.15235.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>,
	<209844.15235.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W80BFB1824C5CE7147F903B8380@phx.gbl>

Filmed in the Great White North, eh?  ( I suspect. )


I though I heard that the tape was to keep air out from under the bonnet due
to the lift it was causing.  Someone will correct me ...


Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> I'm just guessing but, as it had snowed earlier on that morning, the tape
was probably needed to keep the engine temp in the right range - wind chill
can be a big factor, especially when your cruising a around 200mph.
>
> Dave G.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
>
> > I wonder how quick it would go if they untaped the grille?

From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Mar  5 14:03:39 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:03:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
References: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4AFA55464D974F21B38572EFFAA28FA8@RickPC>

It wouldn't go as fast.  They taped the grill in an attempt to keep the 
front end on the ground.  Peter Klutt said at the end of the video that he 
didn't go over 208MPH because the car was "running out of aero".

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
To: <froggi60 at gmail.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Super Cuda


>I wonder how quick it would go if they untaped the grille?

From mjb at autox.team.net  Fri Mar  5 14:41:21 2010
From: mjb at autox.team.net (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:41:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Quick list note
Message-ID: <4B917A81.5090900@autox.team.net>

I've been going through the various Team.Net lists and changing the
footer a bit, that part down below the body of the message.  The link
for the admin page should now be more clearly labeled, making it
easier for those who've had their fill to unsubscribe ;-)

mjb.

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Mar  5 14:46:07 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:46:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <4AFA55464D974F21B38572EFFAA28FA8@RickPC>
References: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
	<4AFA55464D974F21B38572EFFAA28FA8@RickPC>
Message-ID: <560425.15770.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

I made a wrong guess (and didn't listen close enough.    ;-(

But... would anyone happen to know if the Super Cuda used a mechanical fan, electric fan, tweo fans or no fan??

Dave G.


> It wouldn't go as fast.  They taped the grill in an attempt to keep the front 
> end on the ground.  Peter Klutt said at the end of the video that he didn't go 
> over 208MPH because the car was "running out of aero".

From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Mar  5 14:53:48 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:53:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <376943.78270.qm@web84207.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
	<4AFA55464D974F21B38572EFFAA28FA8@RickPC>
	<376943.78270.qm@web84207.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C8BD6C3A56CF48ABAED1EAFCA9229F0C@RickPC>

Single electric fan.

http://www.legendarymotorcar.com/site/wsc_system/wsc_front_files/mediabox_show.php?file=4759&tpl=3


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DAVID GROPPER" <kk7ss at verizon.net>
To: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Super Cuda


>I made a wrong guess (and didn't listen close enough.    ;-(
>
> But... would anyone happen to know if the Super Cuda used a mechanical 
> fan, electric fan, tweo fans or no fan??
>
> Dave G.

From domanicoj at comcast.net  Fri Mar  5 16:08:18 2010
From: domanicoj at comcast.net (domanicoj at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:08:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] crankshaft pulley retaining nut
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1267815602.9528.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1920121629.12786261267830498086.JavaMail.root@sz0028a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Ok, I looked in all three of my shop manuals and no info on the size socket I
need to remove the crankshaft pulley retaining nut.

1975 midget 1500.B  I am afraid somebody is going to say that they vary in
size.B  I don't have sockets that large so I only want to buy one.

Unless, of course, somebody has some double secret process to remove it
without buying a monster socket.B 

Please help.



Thanks

Jim Domanico

Chalfont, PA

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Mar  5 16:28:25 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:28:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <C8BD6C3A56CF48ABAED1EAFCA9229F0C@RickPC>
Message-ID: <577586.2291.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

"a much altered 1970 Plymouth Barracuda"

I spit out my drink when I read that.

At this stage, what in gods name makes this a Plymouth Barracuda?

jay

--- On Fri, 3/5/10, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 4:53 PM

Single electric fan.

http://www.legendarymotorcar.com/site/wsc_system/wsc_front_files/mediabox_show.php?file=4759&tpl=3


----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID GROPPER" <kk7ss at verizon.net>
To: "Rick Fisk" <refisk at chartermi.net>
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Super Cuda

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar  5 17:08:05 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:08:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <577586.2291.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <577586.2291.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B919CE5.80207@justbrits.com>

Well Jay, your post gives me perfect opportunity
to 'input' some info on this subject <G> !!

<< At this stage, what in gods name makes this a Plymouth
Barracuda? >>

And for all of youse<G>, I am guessing it will take
a bit of work but the build WAS done on a SpeedTV
show [IIRC about 2 years ago].  It was my very
FIRST thought as soon as the subject was posted
[ "I remember that car/show !" ] !!
 
Kinda difficult to forget/miss Larry's "accent" <G>
[shut-up RD - LOL] !!!

Actually, Larry's show was one that I tried NOT to
miss !!!  Didn't show as much as one would want but
plenty of what would interest any of us 'gearheads'.

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar  5 17:26:58 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:26:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <C8BD6C3A56CF48ABAED1EAFCA9229F0C@RickPC>
References: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
	<4AFA55464D974F21B38572EFFAA28FA8@RickPC>
	<376943.78270.qm@web84207.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<C8BD6C3A56CF48ABAED1EAFCA9229F0C@RickPC>
Message-ID: <4B91A152.1070704@justbrits.com>

And Rick's 'link' - when shortened - is where you should
be able to find the "build show".

http://www.legendarymotorcar.com/site/

Ed

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Mar  5 17:52:51 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 19:52:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
References: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201003041356136.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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You mean something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/6207-2RS-C3-Bearing-Designation-Metric-Bearings/dp/B002HAR9NM

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings


> Go to your local APS or any bearing shop. Get a 6207  or better a 6207-2RS
> 
>         Peter C
> ===

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar  5 18:19:35 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:19:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
In-Reply-To: <9635C605CB8C4312BE07BEAABE9B671C@blackbox2>
References: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<9635C605CB8C4312BE07BEAABE9B671C@blackbox2>
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<< You mean something like this? >>

At LEAST you would only be putting the crap ones
[as reviewer said = cheap] VS Timken in the REAR
end of car and NOT steering end, Dean.

Things like MY [AND my customers] LIFE actually
MEAN something to me.

You must be one of the chaps looking for cheap
frame for one-of-a-kind poster, huh??

Ed

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar  5 21:29:32 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 20:29:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
In-Reply-To: <9635C605CB8C4312BE07BEAABE9B671C@blackbox2>
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I have my doubts about putting a "Neptune Washer Bearing" in my hub.  I just want to know what all the info means.  Abec3, Peer ball bearings, C3, etc.  I cannot recall from my skateboarding days.  I would also hesitate when I see it says in the review "I can buy three of these for the price of one Timken..."  Makes me want to buy the Timken.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
To: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 4:52:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings

You mean something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/6207-2RS-C3-Bearing-Designation-Metric-Bearings/dp/B002HAR9NM

----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings


> Go to your local APS or any bearing shop. Get a 6207  or better a 6207-2RS
> 
>         Peter C
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Mar  5 21:45:44 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 23:45:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
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Well it certainly LOOKS like a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda!! (My brother-in-law
had one). Doesn't that fit the predominant world wide race series, NASCAR,
rules to make it a 1970 Plymouth Barracuda??

Larry
OWWWW (my tongue so far in cheek, it hurt)

On Mar 5, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Jay wrote:

> "a much altered 1970 Plymouth Barracuda"
>
> I spit out my drink when I read that.
>
> At this stage, what in gods name makes this a Plymouth Barracuda?
>
> jay
>
> --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
>
> From: Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 4:53 PM
>
> Single electric fan.
>
>
http://www.legendarymotorcar.com/site/wsc_system/wsc_front_files/mediabox_sho
w.php?file=4759&tpl=3
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID GROPPER" <kk7ss at verizon.net>
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> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:45 PM
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Mar  5 22:14:58 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 00:14:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
References: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201003041356136.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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	<987226.67286.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EF577B09D24149D1A65DDF543278F624@blackbox2>

Me too, That's why I'm asking...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Edward Perez


I have my doubts about putting a "Neptune Washer Bearing" in my hub.  I just want to know what all the info means.  Abec3, Peer ball 
bearings, C3, etc.  I cannot recall from my skateboarding days.  I would also hesitate when I see it says in the review "I can buy 
three of these for the price of one Timken..."  Makes me want to buy the Timken.


From: Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>

You mean something like this?

http://www.amazon.com/6207-2RS-C3-Bearing-Designation-Metric-Bearings/dp/B002HAR9NM

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sat Mar  6 01:12:47 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 02:12:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
References: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com><201003041356136.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><9635C605CB8C4312BE07BEAABE9B671C@blackbox2>
	<987226.67286.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8F1ACDF5A89A4E6491A0C359EB0FCBF7@leovs802bt6yj7>

this should help Edward. 
http://www.timken.com/EN-US/Knowledge/glossary/Pages/BearingTermsGlossary.aspx

Leo 

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sat Mar  6 01:18:54 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 02:18:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
References: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com><201003041356136.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><9635C605CB8C4312BE07BEAABE9B671C@blackbox2>
	<987226.67286.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Forgot to add from experience... when the abec number rises the price 
increases about ten fold (i.e. a 10.00 dollar bearing becomes a 100.00 
bearing)!!!!  Very few times will you need a bearing for a car pat an abec 
spec of 3

Leo

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Mar  6 04:22:51 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:22:51 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
Message-ID: <40ea7.20277014.38c3950b@aol.com>

I'm guessing it's good for 10-25mph that it wouldn't otherwise make.   
Besides colder air would be better for power.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 05/03/2010 19:08:33 GMT Standard Time, kk7ss at verizon.net 
 writes:

I'm just  guessing but, as it had snowed earlier on that morning, the tape 
was probably  needed to keep the engine temp in the right range - wind chill 
can be a big  factor, especially when your cruising a around 200mph.

Dave  G.



----- Original Message ----
> From:  "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>

> I  wonder how quick it would go if they untaped the  grille?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Mar  6 04:23:39 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:23:39 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
Message-ID: <40ef1.1699bdbb.38c3953b@aol.com>

Service drag is excessive then?
 
In a message dated 05/03/2010 20:07:20 GMT Standard Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

I though  I heard that the tape was to keep air out from under the bonnet 
due
to the  lift it was causing. 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Mar  6 08:25:47 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:25:47 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <209844.15235.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
	<209844.15235.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1485488145.20100306072547@pacifier.com>

,
> wind chill can be a big factor, especially when your cruising a around 200mph.

Wind chill is an  effect on animals. It cannot drop the the temp of
inanimate objects below ambient temperature. It can cause them to cool
faster than they otherwise would, but that's it.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 All power corrupts, but we NEED electricity. 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Mar  6 09:18:42 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:18:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <1485488145.20100306072547@pacifier.com>
References: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
	<209844.15235.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<1485488145.20100306072547@pacifier.com>
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I was wrong (again Ed!). I used the wrong word.

I was remembering, from my RAF days  ---  air that's too cold can be a problem.
I  remember piston-engine aircraft at the pole being unable to take off due to a lack of power in the polar winter.
That was  the reason for my thinking (I'm gonna have to stop thinking!).

Dave G.



----- Original Messages ----
> From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
> Wind chill is an  effect on animals.

>From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com

>  Besides colder air would be better for power.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar  6 09:37:27 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:37:27 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <1485488145.20100306072547@pacifier.com>
References: <179be.728fcc14.38c2a3ee@aol.com>
	<209844.15235.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<1485488145.20100306072547@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <4B9284C7.5040403@justbrits.com>

Daniel 1330 wrote:
<< wind chill can be a big factor, especially when your cruising.... >>
 
Then Bill L. wrote:
<< Wind chill is an effect on animals. >>

And there folks is the difference between English as
it SHOULD be spoke and how it IS spoke [which Bill
plainly missed <G> !!

Ed

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Mar  6 09:42:56 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:42:56 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
In-Reply-To: <987226.67286.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<201003041356136.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<9635C605CB8C4312BE07BEAABE9B671C@blackbox2>,
	<987226.67286.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W32E37F9166061BEC60F416CA370@phx.gbl>

Ed Those "cheap" bearings are still probably far better than what came
originally in the car so I would be less scared about that than the fact that
they are "double sealed" which I would NOT use in the back end of a Spridget.
Those seals won't let oil lube/cool the raceballs.
Go with "non-sealed" at-least.
BillM

> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 20:29:32 -0800
> From: eap2140 at yahoo.com
> To: dlh2001 at comcast.net; peter at nosimport.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
>
> I have my doubts about putting a "Neptune Washer Bearing" in my hub.  I just
want to know what all the info means.  Abec3, Peer ball bearings, C3, etc.  I
cannot recall from my skateboarding days.  I would also hesitate when I see it
says in the review "I can buy three of these for the price of one Timken..."
Makes me want to buy the Timken.
>
>  Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> To: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 4:52:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
>
> You mean something like this?
>
>
http://www.amazon.com/6207-2RS-C3-Bearing-Designation-Metric-Bearings/dp/B002
HAR9NM
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
>
>
> > Go to your local APS or any bearing shop. Get a 6207  or better a
6207-2RS
> >
> >         Peter C
> > ===
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  6 10:16:50 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:16:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <1485488145.20100306072547@pacifier.com>
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I believe the term for its affect on animals is called "Shrinkage."  

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 7:25:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Super Cuda

,
> wind chill can be a big factor, especially when your cruising a around 200mph.

Wind chill is an  effect on animals. It cannot drop the the temp of
inanimate objects below ambient temperature. It can cause them to cool
faster than they otherwise would, but that's it.

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  6 10:31:43 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 09:31:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W32E37F9166061BEC60F416CA370@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <694311.43650.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com> wrote:
> they are "double sealed" which I would NOT use in the back
> end of a Spridget.
> Those seals won't let oil lube/cool the raceballs.
> Go with "non-sealed" at-least.

That's the setup that racers use on double bearing hubs - sealed inner, grease packed outer. Helps keep the axles from leaking. Spridget rear bearings are the one thing on the car that are ridiculously over designed. Well, that and the crankshaft nut.

Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Mar  6 10:33:21 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:33:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <391194.34304.qm@web84203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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Time for an old weather guy and pilot to chime in....

Windchill is based on the rate of heat loss from exposed skin caused by wind
and cold. As the wind increases, it draws heat from the body, driving down
skin temperature and eventually the internal body temperature. The only
effect wind chill has on inanimate objects, such as car radiators and water
pipes, is to shorten the amount of time for the object to cool.

The situation is much more complicated with aircraft. Much depends upon
whether or not the aircraft (piston engines) has a temperature and altitude
compensated carburetor or not. If it does not, the carburetor venturi cools
the air by adiabatically expanding the intake air, known as the
Joule-Thomson Effect. If the air temperature drops below the dew point,
moisture in the air condenses into water droplets. Thus, water (and ice
which changes the characteristics of the venturi) can be present in the
carburetor even when flying in clear skies. Ice in the venturi will change
the amount of power the engine develops. Many aircraft beat this problem
either by using a compensated carburetor or by using carburetor "heat" which
keeps the venturi warm stopping ice formation.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:18 AM, DAVID GROPPER <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> I was wrong (again Ed!). I used the wrong word.
>
> I was remembering, from my RAF days  ---  air that's too cold can be a
> problem.
> I  remember piston-engine aircraft at the pole being unable to take off due
> to a lack of power in the polar winter.
> That was  the reason for my thinking (I'm gonna have to stop thinking!).
>
> Dave G.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Messages ----
> > From: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
> > Wind chill is an  effect on animals.
>
> >From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> >  Besides colder air would be better for power.
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Mar  6 10:52:06 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:52:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W32E37F9166061BEC60F416CA370@phx.gbl>
References: <422870.87039.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<987226.67286.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<SNT123-W32E37F9166061BEC60F416CA370@phx.gbl>
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> Ed Those "cheap" bearings are still probably far better than what came
> originally in the car so I would be less scared about that than the fact that
> they are "double sealed" which I would NOT use in the back end of a Spridget.
> Those seals won't let oil lube/cool the raceballs.
> Go with "non-sealed" at-least.

Bill,
If those "double-sealed" bearings survive the beating they get in a
Subaru, why do you question their use in a Spridget axle with a
different substance on the other side of those seals? If still
concerned, it is easy enough to snake a seal out.
David L

From domanicoj at comcast.net  Sat Mar  6 11:10:08 2010
From: domanicoj at comcast.net (domanicoj at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:10:08 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] crankshaft pulley retaining nut
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6570.1267874655.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1183037594.12990711267899008158.JavaMail.root@sz0028a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Okie Dokie!

as it turns out the nut is 1B and 13/16 inches.B  Thanks for your replies!!

the nut and slider bar at sears cost me $45

Now........this nut is tight!!

Please dont tell me it is reverse threads.B  None of my manuals mention that
at all.

I have a piece of wood to stop the shaft from spinning. Soaked the nut
overnite in penetrating oil.

the slider bar should give me more than enough leverage and my stomach hurts
now, but still no budging!

Keep soaking with oil, keep trying to loosen it slowely?

Are the thread reversed?



Jim Domanico

Chalfont, PA

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sat Mar  6 11:09:43 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:09:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear wheel bearings
References: <694311.43650.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <92441812F13D401F84DBFF2B557F49EF@leovs802bt6yj7>

So are you saying as Peter C. did is, that the double sealed bearings would 
be fine in a street car?  I don't see that much oil gets to the ends anyway

Leo 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  6 11:50:52 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 10:50:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003060933g1508f008ra28e0f142d7296ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <519906.53343.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joule-Thomson Effect. If the air temperature drops below

This guy will tell you all you need to know about equations of state:

http://tinyurl.com/ylg4e74

Anon

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Mar  6 12:42:12 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:42:12 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Trans Oil
Message-ID: <d49b03131003061142y610ca75cmdea7dfd6e48761a@mail.gmail.com>

Which Redline oil would you use for the Datsun Tranny?  MTL or 75W90NS?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Sat Mar  6 12:54:50 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:54:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] crankshaft pulley retaining nut
In-Reply-To: <1183037594.12990711267899008158.JavaMail.root@sz0028a.west
	chester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <mailman.6570.1267874655.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<1183037594.12990711267899008158.JavaMail.root@sz0028a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <201003061955.o26JtDUN010562@mail.usimperio.com>

Best and easiest method is an impact gun, 1/2 drive works ok. Been 
there done that with the sore muscles.

Dave

At 01:10 PM 3/6/2010, you wrote:
>Okie Dokie!
>
>as it turns out the nut is 1B and 13/16 inches.B  Thanks for your replies!!
>
>the nut and slider bar at sears cost me $45
>
>Now........this nut is tight!!
>
>Please dont tell me it is reverse threads.B  None of my manuals mention that
>at all.
>
>I have a piece of wood to stop the shaft from spinning. Soaked the nut
>overnite in penetrating oil.
>
>the slider bar should give me more than enough leverage and my stomach hurts
>now, but still no budging!
>
>Keep soaking with oil, keep trying to loosen it slowely?
>
>Are the thread reversed?
>
>
>
>Jim Domanico
>
>Chalfont, PA
>__________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Mar  6 15:20:44 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:20:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <519906.53343.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <43840a7e1003060933g1508f008ra28e0f142d7296ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<519906.53343.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003061420g705a2c66ha7d5a67b7740ff0f@mail.gmail.com>

Neat stuff, Ron.  Can I have your autograph?   ;-)   It's been too many
years for me. It would take me days to wade through all this to get any kind
of proficiency with the equations of state for compressible fluids....  The
only one I ever worked with after my fluid dynamics classes was air which as
you know is a complex mix of gasses which is constantly varying and thus has
constantly varying properties. Goes a long way to explain why weather
forecasts aren't perfect   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On Sat, 3/6/10, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Joule-Thomson Effect. If the air temperature drops below
>
> This guy will tell you all you need to know about equations of state:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ylg4e74
>
> Anon
>
>
>
>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From adrianjones747 at earthlink.net  Sat Mar  6 15:28:40 2010
From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net (Adrian Jones)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:28:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] crankshaft pulley retaining nut
Message-ID: <002e01cabd7c$5fc26450$1f472cf0$@net>

Jim,

Sorry not to get back to you earlier.

I could not get a socket on that nut because the steering arm is in the way
but with calipers it appears to be 1 and 13/16" - just as you have found.

I have undone this nut on my TR3 (to remove the timing cover and replace a
broken timing chain tensioner).  I used the time-honoured practice of using
a socket on the nut with a breaker bar.  The breaker bar was positioned
under a frame member and then I just hit the starter button.  Worked just
fine.  The thread is a normal ie lefty loosey, righty tighty.

Cheers

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Mar  6 15:44:08 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:44:08 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] sudden steering wheel departure
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003061142y610ca75cmdea7dfd6e48761a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03131003061142y610ca75cmdea7dfd6e48761a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4F7E80085584F3EAB7D190C3A27F7DE@spider>

March 04, 2010 11:38 PM EST 
ARLINGTON, Wash. (AP) - State troopers said a man is lucky to have only
minor injuries when he crashed his car into a barn after his steering wheel
popped off while driving. Trooper Keith Leary said the 59-year-old man was
driving his 1978 Buick on Thursday afternoon on State Route 530 when his
steering wheel came off, the car left the road, went down an embankment, up
the other side, and crashed into a barn.

The man narrowly missed a power pole and several small barns with baby cows
inside.

Rescuers said it's a miracle the man suffered only minor neck pain in the
accident. The farm's owner said the car destroyed the farm's refrigeration
and milking area and happened right as 140 cows were about to be milked.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar  6 15:49:28 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:49:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003061420g705a2c66ha7d5a67b7740ff0f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e1003060933g1508f008ra28e0f142d7296ab@mail.gmail.com><519906.53343.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e1003061420g705a2c66ha7d5a67b7740ff0f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8E115BD17FC342079B6F517C5EEA0852@HomePC>

Hmmm, I always thought weather forecasts weren't perfect because weather 
forecasters weren't perfect.   Sorry, Jim, had to do that. ;-)

I see that the Soave modification was dated 1972.  Uh, Ron, in 72 you were 
in what, junior high school?


LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 4:20 PM
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Super Cuda

Neat stuff, Ron.  Can I have your autograph?   ;-)   It's been too many
years for me. It would take me days to wade through all this to get any kind
of proficiency with the equations of state for compressible fluids....  The
only one I ever worked with after my fluid dynamics classes was air which as
you know is a complex mix of gasses which is constantly varying and thus has
constantly varying properties. Goes a long way to explain why weather
forecasts aren't perfect   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On Sat, 3/6/10, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Joule-Thomson Effect. If the air temperature drops below
>
> This guy will tell you all you need to know about equations of state:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ylg4e74
>
> Anon
>
>
>
>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  6 15:50:45 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:50:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Now even less LBC  Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003061420g705a2c66ha7d5a67b7740ff0f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <560125.69179.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Neat stuff,
Ron.  Can I have your
> autograph?   ;-)   It's been too many years for me.
It's a distant relative ;-). 

Air is pretty easy, incompressibles are cake;
two-phase refrigerants are difficult. In fact, I'm looking for people right
now - anyone out there who can model an evaporator (and prove it with data)
can have a job if you want one. All of the canned programs out there are FOS
when it comes to 2 phase pressure drops.

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  6 15:54:10 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 14:54:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <8E115BD17FC342079B6F517C5EEA0852@HomePC>
Message-ID: <477271.77308.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I see
that the Soave modification was dated 1972.  Uh,
> Ron, in 72 you were 
> in
what, junior high school?

Either kindergarten or first grade, depending on
which half of the year.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar  6 15:57:10 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:57:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <477271.77308.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <477271.77308.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C57D81DDEF434166924B811343DF8C56@HomePC>

Holy sh_t!  You're even younger than I thought!

Dammit that really makes me feel old.  My arthritis just got worse while 
reading your post.

Grampa LAD



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 4:54 PM
To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>; "Larry Daniels" 
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Super Cuda

--- On Sat, 3/6/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I see that the Soave modification was dated 1972.  Uh,
> Ron, in 72 you were
> in what, junior high school?

Either kindergarten or first grade, depending on which half of the year. 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Mar  6 16:08:02 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:08:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] sudden steering wheel departure
In-Reply-To: <C4F7E80085584F3EAB7D190C3A27F7DE@spider>
References: <d49b03131003061142y610ca75cmdea7dfd6e48761a@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4F7E80085584F3EAB7D190C3A27F7DE@spider>
Message-ID: <402188521003061508i12f3770cwd48159911e27da53@mail.gmail.com>

> March 04, 2010 11:38 PM EST
> ARLINGTON, Wash. (AP) - State troopers said a man is lucky to have only
> minor injuries when he crashed his car into a barn after his steering wheel
> popped off while driving. Trooper Keith Leary said the 59-year-old man was
> driving his 1978 Buick on Thursday afternoon on State Route 530 when his
> steering wheel came off, the car left the road, went down an embankment, up
> the other side, and crashed into a barn.

Anybody want to take a bet that the ujoint for the tilt steering broke?
Poor cows....
David L

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Mar  6 16:39:25 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:39:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] sudden steering wheel departure
In-Reply-To: <C4F7E80085584F3EAB7D190C3A27F7DE@spider>
References: <d49b03131003061142y610ca75cmdea7dfd6e48761a@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4F7E80085584F3EAB7D190C3A27F7DE@spider>
Message-ID: <4B92E7AD.3060201@comcast.net>

corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> March 04, 2010 11:38 PM EST 
> ARLINGTON, Wash. (AP) - State troopers said a man is lucky to have only
> minor injuries when he crashed his car into a barn after his steering wheel
> popped off while driving. T
My good friend while riding around with his girl friend back in 1973 
driving a 64 Chebby had his steering wheel come off, he hit the brakes, 
veered into a closed gas station and a cop saw it all.
The cop pulls up and said "That was real cute, would you mind explaining"
Fred shows him the steering wheel in his hands which were still shaking 
and said "Here M-Fer, YOU try it!"
The cop said "I assume you will get that fixed?" Fred calmed down and 
said he was sorry for calling him that, the cop laughed and said under 
the same circumstances, I probably would have crapped my pants and told 
a cop pretty much the same thing.
Nobody hurt, no damage, and the wheel nut has come off. Fred fixed it on 
the spot with pliers until he got home to tighten the nut.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar  6 16:40:06 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 17:40:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Super Cuda
In-Reply-To: <C57D81DDEF434166924B811343DF8C56@HomePC>
References: <477271.77308.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C57D81DDEF434166924B811343DF8C56@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4B92E7D6.3050703@justbrits.com>

<< ...really makes me feel old. >>

'Cause you ARE, Larry !!

Even OLDER [by a LONG shot] then I !!!!

But considering the "Subject:" I guess you shouldn't
feel too bad <G> !!!

PPP

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  6 17:04:08 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:04:08 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] sudden steering wheel departure
In-Reply-To: <C4F7E80085584F3EAB7D190C3A27F7DE@spider>
Message-ID: <349270.7415.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Damn, thought this was going to be another Toyota recall.

Rick


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--- On Sat, 3/6/10, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

From: corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] sudden steering wheel departure
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, March 6, 2010, 5:44 PM

March 04, 2010 11:38 PM EST
ARLINGTON, Wash. (AP) - State troopers said a man is lucky to have only
minor injuries when he crashed his car into a barn after his steering wheel
popped off while driving. Trooper Keith Leary said the 59-year-old man was
driving his 1978 Buick on Thursday afternoon on State Route 530 when his
steering wheel came off, the car left the road, went down an embankment, up
the other side, and crashed into a barn.

The man narrowly missed a power pole and several small barns with baby cows
inside.

Rescuers said it's a miracle the man suffered only minor neck pain in the
accident. The farm's owner said the car destroyed the farm's refrigeration
and milking area and happened right as 140 cows were about to be milked.
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Mar  6 17:51:38 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:51:38 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy question
Message-ID: <4B92F89A.4040609@frontiernet.net>

Just wondering if any of you guys are aware of a recall on 2009 Chevy 
Express vans? We have two that will accept fuel about 10 cents at  a 
time, which is somewhat annoying. Now a third van is developing the same 
symptoms as the others. The local Chevy dealer keeps installing fuel 
pumps, which does nothing for the problem, but the shop insists that the 
fuel pumps are bad. They run fine, they're just impossible to fill with gas.

Thanks,

Kate

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar  6 17:51:58 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:51:58 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] sudden steering wheel departure
In-Reply-To: <4B92E7AD.3060201@comcast.net>
References: <d49b03131003061142y610ca75cmdea7dfd6e48761a@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4F7E80085584F3EAB7D190C3A27F7DE@spider>
	<4B92E7AD.3060201@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B92F8AE.6050900@justbrits.com>

<< My good friend while riding around with his girl friend back
in 1973 driving a 64 Chebby had his steering wheel come off, he
hit the brakes, veered into a closed gas station and a cop saw
it all. >>

Damn Frank, that woulda been the HARD way to
"get a nut off" !!!

LAD

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Mar  6 18:19:46 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:19:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] sudden steering wheel departure
In-Reply-To: <C4F7E80085584F3EAB7D190C3A27F7DE@spider>
References: <d49b03131003061142y610ca75cmdea7dfd6e48761a@mail.gmail.com>
	<C4F7E80085584F3EAB7D190C3A27F7DE@spider>
Message-ID: <615354A1-B797-4FB9-87F3-FC6870F2033B@phillymgclub.com>

First I ever heard of someone using Toyota Prius brakes on a 78 Buick.

Larry

On Mar 6, 2010, at 5:44 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> March 04, 2010 11:38 PM EST
> ARLINGTON, Wash. (AP) - State troopers said a man is lucky to have only
> minor injuries when he crashed his car into a barn after his steering wheel
> popped off while driving. Trooper Keith Leary said the 59-year-old man was
> driving his 1978 Buick on Thursday afternoon on State Route 530 when his
> steering wheel came off, the car left the road, went down an embankment, up
> the other side, and crashed into a barn.
>
> The man narrowly missed a power pole and several small barns with baby cows
> inside.
>
> Rescuers said it's a miracle the man suffered only minor neck pain in the
> accident. The farm's owner said the car destroyed the farm's refrigeration
> and milking area and happened right as 140 cows were about to be milked.
> _______________________________________________
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  6 18:44:30 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:44:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Amateur Sports Car Racing in the '60s
Message-ID: <689461.48751.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

This is just the best.  A period half-hour video about amateur SCCA racing in
the 60s.  Lots of big Healeys and Sprites. Great shots at the Glen before they
put up all the armco.  http://vimeo.com/4139756

Rick


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From conen at bellsouth.net  Sat Mar  6 19:47:17 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:47:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] sudden steering wheel departure
Message-ID: <581011.66932.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

>>Rescuers said it's a miracle the man suffered only minor neck pain in the
>>accident. The farm's owner said the car destroyed the farm's refrigeration
>>and milking area and happened right as 140 cows were about to be milked.

I wonder how long it took to milk all those cows by hand...
 Ed in NC :-)

From davriker at nwi.net  Sat Mar  6 21:00:58 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 20:00:58 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy question
References: <4B92F89A.4040609@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <BAF7109E46D34CD9BD3ACF42D1B7E721@MAIN>

There doesn't seem to be any TSB on this subject but,

They have a sealed fuel system.  The tank vents back to the fuel fill neck 
through a separate hose that runs parallel to the fuel fill neck.  If the 
vent line has been kinked, pinched, or clogged in any way, it would produce 
the symptom you are describing.

Dave R.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
To: "Assn" <9issa at justbrits.com>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 4:51 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy question


> Just wondering if any of you guys are aware of a recall on 2009 Chevy
> Express vans? We have two that will accept fuel about 10 cents at  a
> time, which is somewhat annoying. Now a third van is developing the same
> symptoms as the others. The local Chevy dealer keeps installing fuel
> pumps, which does nothing for the problem, but the shop insists that the
> fuel pumps are bad. They run fine, they're just impossible to fill with 
> gas.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kate
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Mar  7 00:02:32 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:02:32 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Chevy question
In-Reply-To: <4B932338.8000604@justbrits.com>
References: <874134.4710.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4B932338.8000604@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4B934F88.6030209@frontiernet.net>

I already knew it wasn't the fuel pump when the Chevy service manager 
insisted that the computer said it was bad when we took the first one 
in. Needless to say, it did not correct the problem, nor did the next 
two fuel pumps that they put on. The general attitude is "Look, little 
lady, I am the technician, I know what I am doing". They don't respond 
nicely to my calling them flipping idiots.

I knew the problem had to be in the fuel tank filler system, but knowing 
exactly what to tell them might help when their current victim is sent 
home with yet another new fuel pump and the problem still not fixed. How 
I wish we could deal with a real shop instead of the dealer!

Thanks everyone,

Kate


Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
> I already [7:42 PM CST] told Kate it wasn't the
> pump[s]<G>!!
>
> << There are told to change the fuel pump - so they do -  >>
>  
> And of course, most of the time by a stupid
> "computer" via a "reader".  No "holes" there <G> !!
>
> << never understanding the real issue. >>
>
> With the exception of guys like OUR Rick, "trouble
> shooting" is TOTALLY a "lost art". 
>
> I am NOT [nor do I want to be] ASE Certified and
> I can tell more about what's wrong with a car than
> 3/4 [or better??] of the so-called 'wrenches'.  They
> are NOT "trained" to even 'think' !!  But LOTS of LBC
> "shadetree" wrenches <G> have LEARNED !!
>
> Shame too.
>
> Me
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar  7 04:51:17 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 03:51:17 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] PAL DVD
Message-ID: <d49b03131003070351l36343c22tc2fef263e1e0581e@mail.gmail.com>

I received a DVD from Ray English in Australia of some historic Sprite
videos with my subscription renewal to Marque One.   I can't see the damn
thing.  I am guessing that this DVD is recorded using the PAL system while I
have what all us Americans have, NTSC format.  How do I watch this thing?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Mar  7 07:43:49 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:43:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Chevy question
In-Reply-To: <4B934F88.6030209@frontiernet.net>
References: <874134.4710.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4B932338.8000604@justbrits.com> <4B934F88.6030209@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003070643y4918e377p47765dee581cd7c0@mail.gmail.com>

It sounds like your dealer is not ASE certified, but ASS certified!!!

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 1:02 AM, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> I already knew it wasn't the fuel pump when the Chevy service manager
> insisted that the computer said it was bad when we took the first one
> in. Needless to say, it did not correct the problem, nor did the next
> two fuel pumps that they put on. The general attitude is "Look, little
> lady, I am the technician, I know what I am doing". They don't respond
> nicely to my calling them flipping idiots.
>
> I knew the problem had to be in the fuel tank filler system, but knowing
> exactly what to tell them might help when their current victim is sent
> home with yet another new fuel pump and the problem still not fixed. How
> I wish we could deal with a real shop instead of the dealer!
>
> Thanks everyone,
>
> Kate
>
>
> Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
> > I already [7:42 PM CST] told Kate it wasn't the
> > pump[s]<G>!!
> >
> > << There are told to change the fuel pump - so they do -  >>
> >
> > And of course, most of the time by a stupid
> > "computer" via a "reader".  No "holes" there <G> !!
> >
> > << never understanding the real issue. >>
> >
> > With the exception of guys like OUR Rick, "trouble
> > shooting" is TOTALLY a "lost art".
> >
> > I am NOT [nor do I want to be] ASE Certified and
> > I can tell more about what's wrong with a car than
> > 3/4 [or better??] of the so-called 'wrenches'.  They
> > are NOT "trained" to even 'think' !!  But LOTS of LBC
> > "shadetree" wrenches <G> have LEARNED !!
> >
> > Shame too.
> >
> > Me
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > 9issa mailing list
> > 9issa at box267.bluehost.com
> > http://box267.bluehost.com/mailman/listinfo/9issa_justbrits.com
> > http://www.justbrits.com
> _______________________________________________
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>


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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Mar  7 08:12:28 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:12:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PAL DVD
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003070351l36343c22tc2fef263e1e0581e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03131003070351l36343c22tc2fef263e1e0581e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6B01A35F-C01A-4471-A6DF-B6F2468BA239@phillymgclub.com>

1) be sure it is PAL and not a region issue
2) get a PAL to NTSC converter (near $100)
3) ebay  PAL DVD player
4) never watch it

Larry

On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:51 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote:

> I received a DVD from Ray English in Australia of some historic Sprite
> videos with my subscription renewal to Marque One.   I can't see the damn
> thing.  I am guessing that this DVD is recorded using the PAL system while
I
> have what all us Americans have, NTSC format.  How do I watch this thing?
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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--

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  7 10:02:46 2010
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:02:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch adjusting
Message-ID: <50279.88528.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does this sound right? I'm trying to set the slave adjustment on my clutch.

Setup: Datsun 5 speed. Rivergate conversion with oversize slave. New 1275 build.

With car fully off the ground, and the clutch rod at transmission fully engaged, the left rear wheel rotates slowly when in tranny is in neutral. Car easily slips into 1st, or 4th (the only two I tried), but the left rear wheel spins much faster when in gear. I timidly rubbed a toe against the wheel trying to slow it down (when in gear) and I think I slowed it some. But I couldn't see the other wheel to see if it picked up speed. It seems the right rear just sits still through this whole process.

Any advice?

Joe Lansing.
Fruita, USA. Home of the 4 year retro mod.

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Sun Mar  7 11:28:16 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 10:28:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Marque One
Message-ID: <476193.17619.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

What is Marque One?  thanks, Skip J.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar  7 12:10:08 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:10:08 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] PAL DVD
In-Reply-To: <6B01A35F-C01A-4471-A6DF-B6F2468BA239@phillymgclub.com>
References: <d49b03131003070351l36343c22tc2fef263e1e0581e@mail.gmail.com>
	<6B01A35F-C01A-4471-A6DF-B6F2468BA239@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003071110y1a66122ekf0aab56f7d61a85@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  Dave Yealey sent me a link to a "how to"
page that worked so I could watch it on my computer.  Just have to figure
out how to burn the conversion to a disc now.  Turned out to be the 1958
Alpine Rally.  Lots of neat footage of Bugeyes and big Healeys.
Mike MacLean

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:

> 1) be sure it is PAL and not a region issue
> 2) get a PAL to NTSC converter (near $100)
> 3) ebay  PAL DVD player
> 4) never watch it
>
> Larry
>
> On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:51 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote:
>
> I received a DVD from Ray English in Australia of some historic Sprite
> videos with my subscription renewal to Marque One.   I can't see the damn
> thing.  I am guessing that this DVD is recorded using the PAL system while
> I
> have what all us Americans have, NTSC format.  How do I watch this thing?
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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>
>
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Secretary
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
>
> One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Mar  7 12:15:52 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:15:52 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Marque One
In-Reply-To: <476193.17619.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <476193.17619.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C2C3CE49253D4813AC6F17A3FDC60566@spider>

? this one ?

http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mikeg/marqueone/p0.htm

 

==================================================

-----Original Message-----

From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Skip Jackson

Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:28 AM

To: spridget

Subject: [Spridgets] Marque One

 

What is Marque One?  thanks, Skip J.

_______________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Mar  7 12:34:30 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:34:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Marque One
In-Reply-To: <476193.17619.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <476193.17619.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003071134t8d7d7b1l2b3175cce2ae471c@mail.gmail.com>

In relation to what, Skip?

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com>wrote:

> What is Marque One?  thanks, Skip J.
>

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Sun Mar  7 13:08:47 2010
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:08:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] PAL DVD
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1267988402.26644.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.13.1267988402.26644.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4B9407CF.10201@sbcglobal.net>

Mike,

As Larry said, it could be a region issue or a PAL disk. A couple of 
options:

1. See if your DVD player can be "hacked" to make it region free. Search 
this site: http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks.
2. Copy it from PAL to NTSC using a program like Clone DVD. 
http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonedvd.html.(free trial.)
3. Watch it on your computer using software such as VLC Media Player. 
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ (free.)
4. Send it to me and I'll convert it in exchange for a cool railroad 
cap. I'll have to watch it to be sure it worked. :)

Lee

Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 03:51:17 -0800
From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] PAL DVD
To: Spridget <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID:
	<d49b03131003070351l36343c22tc2fef263e1e0581e at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I received a DVD from Ray English in Australia of some historic Sprite
videos with my subscription renewal to Marque One.   I can't see the damn
thing.  I am guessing that this DVD is recorded using the PAL system while I
have what all us Americans have, NTSC format.  How do I watch this thing?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar  7 13:25:37 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:25:37 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Marque One
In-Reply-To: <476193.17619.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <476193.17619.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003071225y2e3eff1vfeac32d182804429@mail.gmail.com>

Ray English in Australia publishes a quarterly newsletter called Marque One
concerning all things Bugeye.  He also maintains the "Sprite Room", a museum
of sorts containing almost any literature on Bugeyes ever published.  He
also has many period items such as aftermarket parts and accessories that
were available in the heyday of the Austin Healey Sprite.  Ray can be
contacted through his email address: rayenglish at dod.com.au if you would like
to inquire about a subscription.  Some very interesting reading, although
some it concerns the Bugeye world in Australia, much of the content is from
around the world.  John Sprinzel is a regular contributor.  Some of his
advertisers offer parts not available elsewhere.  Ray just included a DVD of
the 1958 Alpine Rally with the latest subscription for 2010.  I had to
convert it from PAL to NTSC before I could watch it though. Ray and his
museum is definitely a must see if you ever get to Australia.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com>wrote:

> What is Marque One?  thanks, Skip J.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Mar  7 13:48:25 2010
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:48:25 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: sudden steering wheel departure... Now: cows
Message-ID: <fbc9308f1003071248w7708591x1a2d106248dbad9f@mail.gmail.com>

>>>>From: Edmund Conen <conen at bellsouth.net>
>>>>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] sudden steering wheel departure

>>>>>>Rescuers said it's a miracle the man suffered only minor neck pain in
the
>>>>>>accident. The farm's owner said the car destroyed the farm's
refrigeration
>>>>>>and milking area and happened right as 140 cows were about to be
milked.

>>>>I wonder how long it took to milk all those cows by hand...
>>>> Ed in NC :-)

I worked on dairy farms in the Tillamook County Creamery Association from
the time I was 11 through about age 19.
If and when something bad like this were to happen to a member of that
association other members would come to their aid.
Dairy farmers on small family farms (140 cows is on the upper end of small)
are a tough breed, and they generally will stick together in bad times.
I hope this guy is part of such a community, otherwise hopefully he has a
large family that will pull together.
Even if the milk is a total loss (literally flushed down the drain) those
cows have to be milked twice a day or it's off to the butcher or auction.
The first priority is to get the cows milked, almost as important (working
on it between milkings) is to get the automation back to working,
I hope insurance pays for everything and doesn't make him go through lawyers
and court time.

Rick (glad I got out of that life) Bastedo

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Mar  7 14:32:02 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:32:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch adjusting
In-Reply-To: <50279.88528.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <50279.88528.qm@web33203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B941B52.5080203@comcast.net>

Joe Lansing wrote:
> Does this sound right? I'm trying to set the slave adjustment on my clutch.
>
> Setup: Datsun 5 speed. Rivergate conversion with oversize slave. New 1275 build.
>
> With car fully off the ground, and the clutch rod at transmission fully engaged, the left rear wheel rotates slowly when in tranny is in neutral. Car easily slips into 1st, or 4th (the only two I tried), but the left rear wheel spins much faster when in gear. 
Yoiu will get this with a limited slip differential. As per design.
One wheel goes, one sort of floats but moves some with inertia.
I adjust my Datsun slave by driving it.
As long as it goes in gear when stopped and the car doesn't creep with 
the clutch depress, drive it and while in 4th or 5th at speed, mash the 
clutch pedal, it should rev for a second but not slip.
If it slips, back off on the slave rod.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From charlieoc at comcast.net  Sun Mar  7 14:39:15 2010
From: charlieoc at comcast.net (Charlie O'Connors)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:39:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275  Flywheel
Message-ID: <000101cabe3e$a34fdb90$e9ef92b0$@net>

Several weeks ago someone on the list said they had a flywheel for a 1275
available.  Of course, since then I've lost the email.  If you still have
the flywheel available, please let me know.

 

Thanks,

 

Charlie

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar  7 15:00:04 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:00:04 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Trans Oil
In-Reply-To: <4B92CC45.5050607@justbrits.com>
References: <d49b03131003061142y610ca75cmdea7dfd6e48761a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B92CC45.5050607@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003071400q36f1ca93k79afa389cbbb3722@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks all for the suggestions.  It is the consensus to use Redline MT-90.
I'll try it before I pull the transmission for crunching going into 3rd
gear.  I have a set of very good condition used Datsun synchros that Paul
gave me last year to replace the aftermarket ones he put in this
transmission.  He said the angle machined into the aftermarket synchro was
wrong.  I only have a problem up and downshifting thru 3rd gear.  Maybe
MT-90 will buy me some time before I pull it to replace the synchros.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From rdgard at cox.net  Sun Mar  7 15:56:54 2010
From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:56:54 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NTSC VS PAL
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1267988402.26644.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.13.1267988402.26644.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <9EABBAAE359F48239083C625A464FC81@internetpc>

One way to see it is to call a professional video company near you and ask
if they can play Pal.  Maybe they can copy it for you or just let you see
it.  Also, some DVD's have a national code on them.  Even a NTSC from Japan
will not play here.  There is a way to program around it but I don't know
it.

Cheers,

Bob

Robert D. Gardner
 
Gardner Productions LLC
Film and Video Production since 1978
619-460-1000
www.gardnerproductions.com
 
I received a DVD from Ray English in Australia of some historic Sprite
videos with my subscription renewal to Marque One.   I can't see the damn
thing.  I am guessing that this DVD is recorded using the PAL system while I
have what all us Americans have, NTSC format.  How do I watch this thing?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2


 *********************************

From charlieoc at comcast.net  Sun Mar  7 16:26:38 2010
From: charlieoc at comcast.net (Charlie O'Connors)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 18:26:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Lever
Message-ID: <000c01cabe4d$a333f150$e99bd3f0$@net>

In addition to the flywheel, I need a clutch lever.  Anyone have a good used
one they wish to sell me?

 

Charlie

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  7 16:50:19 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:50:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Flywheel
In-Reply-To: <000101cabe3e$a34fdb90$e9ef92b0$@net>
References: <000101cabe3e$a34fdb90$e9ef92b0$@net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9911003071550o7103d706m39ee3b7e715ea508@mail.gmail.com>

Click "Archive" at the bottom of each email you get from the list and
you can search back.


On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Charlie O'Connors <charlieoc at comcast.net>
wrote:
> Several weeks ago someone on the list said they had a flywheel for a 1275
> available.  Of course, since then I've lost the email.  If you still have
> the flywheel available, please let me know.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Charlie
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar  7 16:57:06 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:57:06 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NTSC VS PAL
In-Reply-To: <9EABBAAE359F48239083C625A464FC81@internetpc>
References: <mailman.13.1267988402.26644.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<9EABBAAE359F48239083C625A464FC81@internetpc>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003071557x615c6d62kedd6a4703c4ccbfc@mail.gmail.com>

I have already viewed it (1958 Alpine Rally)  with VLC Player after
de-coding it using DVD Decrypter per Dave Yealy. (thanks Dave)  I can watch
it on my computer which is OK, but would like to be able to burn a disc and
watch it on my big screen TV.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Bob Gardner <rdgard at cox.net> wrote:

> One way to see it is to call a professional video company near you and ask
> if they can play Pal.  Maybe they can copy it for you or just let you see
> it.  Also, some DVD's have a national code on them.  Even a NTSC from Japan
> will not play here.  There is a way to program around it but I don't know
> it.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob
>
> Robert D. Gardner
>
> Gardner Productions LLC
> Film and Video Production since 1978
> 619-460-1000
> www.gardnerproductions.com
>
> I received a DVD from Ray English in Australia of some historic Sprite
> videos with my subscription renewal to Marque One.   I can't see the damn
> thing.  I am guessing that this DVD is recorded using the PAL system while
> I
> have what all us Americans have, NTSC format.  How do I watch this thing?
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
>
>  *********************************
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Sun Mar  7 18:55:34 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:55:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NTSC VS PAL
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003071557x615c6d62kedd6a4703c4ccbfc@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <mailman.13.1267988402.26644.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<9EABBAAE359F48239083C625A464FC81@internetpc>
	<d49b03131003071557x615c6d62kedd6a4703c4ccbfc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201003080156.o281u384017389@mail.usimperio.com>

Mike try this site, it describes a way to convert pal to ntsc
Looks like you can use all freeware to do the job.
http://www.digital-digest.com/articles/Convert_PAL_NTSC_DVD_page1.html

Dave


At 06:57 PM 3/7/2010, you wrote:
>I have already viewed it (1958 Alpine Rally)  with VLC Player after
>de-coding it using DVD Decrypter per Dave Yealy. (thanks Dave)  I can watch
>it on my computer which is OK, but would like to be able to burn a disc and
>watch it on my big screen TV.
>Mike MacLean
>60 Sprite
>56 BN2
>
>On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Bob Gardner <rdgard at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > One way to see it is to call a professional video company near you and ask
> > if they can play Pal.  Maybe they can copy it for you or just let you see
> > it.  Also, some DVD's have a national code on them.  Even a NTSC from Japan
> > will not play here.  There is a way to program around it but I don't know
> > it.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Robert D. Gardner
> >
> > Gardner Productions LLC
> > Film and Video Production since 1978
> > 619-460-1000
> > www.gardnerproductions.com
> >
> > I received a DVD from Ray English in Australia of some historic Sprite
> > videos with my subscription renewal to Marque One.   I can't see the damn
> > thing.  I am guessing that this DVD is recorded using the PAL system while
> > I
> > have what all us Americans have, NTSC format.  How do I watch this thing?
> > Mike MacLean
> > 60 Sprite
> > 56 BN2
> >
> >
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Mar  7 19:10:08 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:10:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
Message-ID: <4B945C80.9020008@comcast.net>

As I fix up this 97 Mercury Sable to flip, I have to wonder what all the 
hype is about Toyota's wanting to keep accelerating.
This POS had 3 brake pipes rusted not with pin holes but 4 inches of 
pipe was gone on 3 separate brake pipes.
I mentioned this to a relative who used to work for Ford, he said the 
96, 97, and 98 Taurus and Sables would pop brake pipes routinely but 
there was never a recall on them.
He told me right where they rusted out, same place as this car did. 
Design flaw? Made in china pipes?
I have taken apart 50 year old Sprites and never saw brake pipes 
corroded as bad as they were on this 13 year old Merc.
And the brakes failed 3 years ago, so 10 years out of brake pipes?
If anyone out there owns one of these CHECK THE BRAKE PIPES right under 
the drivers side rear door.
The rest of the car's problems were minor, a sensor, a belt, some WD40, 
and a good cleaning. Now it goes well and it even stops on a dime with 
out the pedal going to the floor.
It's for sale to finance more Sprite work ;)

I am plugging away on my own Sprite, it's painted, the de-seaming looks 
great, My ceramic coated  headers came back,
I may just get to popping in the engine one night this week. My local 
trim shop says he will cut and install my carpets this time, he owes me 
a favor.
He said my rug job looks like a carpenter did it. I said his carpentry 
work (on boat seats) looks like an upholsterer did it.
So now that we both know what we are good at, we do what we have to for 
each other. Besides he always has to sew the piping on the tunnel carpet 
no matter who installs the carpet. And he is teaching me the "right" way 
to do the vinyl interior panels. Again he says it looks like a carpenter 
did them.
I thought they looked OK, and he said "they would pass but not in my shop."
It's the glue, he has the good stuff, I get the stuff from home defect.

The windshield is new and installed in the frame but Mike, the glass man 
refused to help pull the "bootleg" rubber body seal thru the channel.
He still remembers Tiff's Bugeye windshield from last year where we 
needed to recruit the 3 guys from the stereo shop next door to help pull 
a rubber gasket thru a channel.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From biffjones at verizon.net  Sun Mar  7 20:02:11 2010
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:02:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
References: <4B945C80.9020008@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <89E8FCBB38A846CDBD242161B55733AD@dell1>

Evidently bad Ford brake lines were not limited to '96 - 98 Tarus and 
Sables, my '97 Bronco has had to have all it's brake lines replaced. One 
morning I was backing up my car trailer to load the Sprite for a car show 
and when I went to stop the pedal went to the floor. Odd I thought and I 
pumped on the brake pedal and they got hard but would slowly go to the 
floor. I got out and there was a big puddle of brake fluid. The main line to 
the rear brakes just behind the drivers door had split completely open for a 
good 3" and broke in half.  I was in a hurry so I spliced the line with some 
compression fittings and some old brake line and went to the show afraid to 
really use the brakes. Made it there and back but the next day I crawled 
under the Bronco and found all the other lines looked the same. Clean good 
looking for most of their runs but each line had a 3 -4" section that was 
severely rusted and once the rust was scraped off and the brakes used they 
would weep brake fluid. I ended up replacing all the lines.


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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar  7 20:38:11 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 19:38:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
In-Reply-To: <89E8FCBB38A846CDBD242161B55733AD@dell1>
References: <4B945C80.9020008@comcast.net>
	<89E8FCBB38A846CDBD242161B55733AD@dell1>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003071938y114ffff4laa07738a4818ae64@mail.gmail.com>

Crap!  Maybe I better look at my 2000 F-150 brake lines.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite (brake lines new since 2000 and are just fine)
56 BN2 (new brake lines pre-bent still in the box waiting for installation
if the body ever comes back from the painter)

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Biff Jones <biffjones at verizon.net> wrote:

> Evidently bad Ford brake lines were not limited to '96 - 98 Tarus and
> Sables, my '97 Bronco has had to have all it's brake lines replaced. One
> morning I was backing up my car trailer to load the Sprite for a car show
> and when I went to stop the pedal went to the floor. Odd I thought and I
> pumped on the brake pedal and they got hard but would slowly go to the
> floor. I got out and there was a big puddle of brake fluid. The main line
> to
> the rear brakes just behind the drivers door had split completely open for
> a
> good 3" and broke in half.  I was in a hurry so I spliced the line with
> some
> compression fittings and some old brake line and went to the show afraid to
> really use the brakes. Made it there and back but the next day I crawled
> under the Bronco and found all the other lines looked the same. Clean good
> looking for most of their runs but each line had a 3 -4" section that was
> severely rusted and once the rust was scraped off and the brakes used they
> would weep brake fluid. I ended up replacing all the lines.
>
>
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> to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send
> plain text.]
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar  7 20:57:02 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:57:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
In-Reply-To: <4B945C80.9020008@comcast.net>
References: <4B945C80.9020008@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B94758E.5010904@justbrits.com>

<< Bugeye windshield from last year where we needed to recruit
the 3 guys from the stereo shop next door to help pull a rubber
gasket thru a channel. >>

You prolly got it from a buddy of OUR's to my NNW
who got it from a gent across the Lake almost due
East from him and he got it from Moss, Frank !!!!

<VBSEG>

Anon

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  7 21:05:46 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:05:46 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding NiCad Battery Packs
In-Reply-To: <SNT133-ds39299AC52E85FCA6174C58E360@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT133-ds39299AC52E85FCA6174C58E360@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003072005g35dc55bbjd16271da748586bc@mail.gmail.com>

 This is a  good article.

http://www.astromart.com/articles/article.asp?article_id=587

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Mar  7 23:28:25 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 23:28:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding NiCad Battery Packs
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b11003072005g35dc55bbjd16271da748586bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT133-ds39299AC52E85FCA6174C58E360@phx.gbl>
	<2ad6c6b11003072005g35dc55bbjd16271da748586bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be1003072228l335dbd60k570cb06e8d808718@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:05 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
This is a  good article.

http://www.astromart.com/articles/article.asp?article_id=587

While you are testing to see which cells might be bad... Remember that
NiCad batteries will build up a "memory" effect that will cause the
cells to not charge to capacity or run as long as they should. Cycle
the battery several times by charging it completely and then
discharging it at a steady rate until it is at 1 volt per cell. If you
are really into batteries you should have a cycler for this process.
You may find that your battery is fine after cycling it!

Glad that's cleared up!
--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 00:09:25 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 01:09:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
In-Reply-To: <4B945C80.9020008@comcast.net>
References: <4B945C80.9020008@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003072309p5afe2f7fq60df148c3d0314b9@mail.gmail.com>

Geez!!   Last year my mom (age 89) had problems with the brakes on her
Taurus. I forget the year!  Looks like I better make a trip to Colorado
Springs and make sure her brake lines are OK....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> As I fix up this 97 Mercury Sable to flip, I have to wonder what all the
> hype is about Toyota's wanting to keep accelerating.
> This POS had 3 brake pipes rusted not with pin holes but 4 inches of pipe
> was gone on 3 separate brake pipes.
> I mentioned this to a relative who used to work for Ford, he said the 96,
> 97, and 98 Taurus and Sables would pop brake pipes routinely but there was
> never a recall on them.
> He told me right where they rusted out, same place as this car did. Design
> flaw? Made in china pipes?
> I have taken apart 50 year old Sprites and never saw brake pipes corroded
> as bad as they were on this 13 year old Merc.
> And the brakes failed 3 years ago, so 10 years out of brake pipes?
> If anyone out there owns one of these CHECK THE BRAKE PIPES right under the
> drivers side rear door.
> The rest of the car's problems were minor, a sensor, a belt, some WD40, and
> a good cleaning. Now it goes well and it even stops on a dime with out the
> pedal going to the floor.
> It's for sale to finance more Sprite work ;)
>
> I am plugging away on my own Sprite, it's painted, the de-seaming looks
> great, My ceramic coated  headers came back,
> I may just get to popping in the engine one night this week. My local trim
> shop says he will cut and install my carpets this time, he owes me a favor.
> He said my rug job looks like a carpenter did it. I said his carpentry work
> (on boat seats) looks like an upholsterer did it.
> So now that we both know what we are good at, we do what we have to for
> each other. Besides he always has to sew the piping on the tunnel carpet no
> matter who installs the carpet. And he is teaching me the "right" way to do
> the vinyl interior panels. Again he says it looks like a carpenter did
them.
> I thought they looked OK, and he said "they would pass but not in my shop."
> It's the glue, he has the good stuff, I get the stuff from home defect.
>
> The windshield is new and installed in the frame but Mike, the glass man
> refused to help pull the "bootleg" rubber body seal thru the channel.
> He still remembers Tiff's Bugeye windshield from last year where we needed
> to recruit the 3 guys from the stereo shop next door to help pull a rubber
> gasket thru a channel.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
>
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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From conen at bellsouth.net  Mon Mar  8 01:13:52 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 00:13:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Trans Oil
Message-ID: <973804.59543.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

  LE brand (Lubrication Engineers) products are also supposed to frequently be quite good at making poor synchros work again.
 Ed in NC

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Mon Mar  8 03:51:01 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 02:51:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Trans Oil
In-Reply-To: <973804.59543.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <973804.59543.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003080251l42a00c1fw8cd0942427f0f35b@mail.gmail.com>

Ed,
     Which of the lubricants is for use in the Datsun transmission?
Mike

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Edmund Conen <conen at bellsouth.net> wrote:

>  LE brand (Lubrication Engineers) products are also supposed to frequently
> be quite good at making poor synchros work again.
>  Ed in NC
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Mar  8 06:21:37 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:21:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
In-Reply-To: <4B945C80.9020008@comcast.net>
References: <4B945C80.9020008@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W94C8EB03535FD3746C1D1C2350@phx.gbl>

Happened to my 1998 taurus SHO a couple years ago.
Underneath the Drivers door, where the lines go from vertical to horizontal,
the double pipe had rusted out. Apparently that's where the water collects in
the
brake lines and had rusted out both pipes. Bought the whole section from a
dealer.
Not uncommon at all, as he had them in stock.
I would extend this from 1996 to at least 2003 models as they are the same.
Unless they changed suppliers at some point.
Definitely known amongst the SHO community.
As is the cam problems with the V8 engines.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:10:08 -0500
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
>
> As I fix up this 97 Mercury Sable to flip, I have to wonder what all the
> hype is about Toyota's wanting to keep accelerating.
> This POS had 3 brake pipes rusted not with pin holes but 4 inches of
> pipe was gone on 3 separate brake pipes.
> I mentioned this to a relative who used to work for Ford, he said the
> 96, 97, and 98 Taurus and Sables would pop brake pipes routinely but
> there was never a recall on them.
> He told me right where they rusted out, same place as this car did.
> Design flaw? Made in china pipes?
> I have taken apart 50 year old Sprites and never saw brake pipes
> corroded as bad as they were on this 13 year old Merc.
> And the brakes failed 3 years ago, so 10 years out of brake pipes?
> If anyone out there owns one of these CHECK THE BRAKE PIPES right under
> the drivers side rear door.
> The rest of the car's problems were minor, a sensor, a belt, some WD40,
> and a good cleaning. Now it goes well and it even stops on a dime with
> out the pedal going to the floor.
> It's for sale to finance more Sprite work ;)
>  > --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
> __________________________

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From heard at datatrontech.net  Mon Mar  8 06:41:14 2010
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:41:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W499B3F45469192932BEA67B8380@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>,
	<206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<1267810257.2344.0.camel@WebBrowser>
	<BAY112-W499B3F45469192932BEA67B8380@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <021301cabec5$060cb010$12261030$@net>

I have 3 of these things on my workshop.  I really like them, but if you
want to keep the a/c or heat in and the bugs out, you have to buy some extra
brushes to close the gaps.  If you think about the way the door operates,
the coil gets smaller and smaller as the door closes.  This causes the gap
between the door and the framing at the top of the door to get wider and
wider.  I have 10' tall doors and when they are fully closed, there is about
a 2-3" gap at the top.  The brushes solved that issue pretty well.

Heard

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
robertduquette at sympatico.ca
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 2:44 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"

That would do it!!  :)



I have enough room for the lift.  My garage is something like 21 or 23 feet
deep inside.  Still, I have to be careful.



Someone on the Healey list said that they ( or some variant ) can be
insulated.


I'm not looking to change my garage door.  I'm more concerned about the
floor
at this moment.  I just happened across it.


Robert

> From: lists at dinospider.com
>
> I really wanted one of these doors for my garage to allow my car on
> the lift when the door was open but they are not insulated and quite
> noisy in the wind. I took out the back wall of the garage and moved it
> 22 feet away instead :)
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  8 06:57:23 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 05:57:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W94C8EB03535FD3746C1D1C2350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <228190.49349.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

We got my MIL's 20k mi 97 Taurus when she passed two years ago.  Replaced the
rusted brake pipes a couple of months ago.

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Mon, 3/8/10, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
To: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 8:21 AM

Happened to my 1998 taurus SHO a couple years ago.
Underneath the Drivers door, where the lines go from vertical to horizontal,
the double pipe had rusted out. Apparently that's where the water collects in
the
brake lines and had rusted out both pipes. Bought the whole section from a
dealer.
Not uncommon at all, as he had them in stock.
I would extend this from 1996 to at least 2003 models as they are the same.
Unless they changed suppliers at some point.
Definitely known amongst the SHO community.
As is the cam problems with the V8 engines.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:10:08 -0500
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
>
> As I fix up this 97 Mercury Sable to flip, I have to wonder what all the
> hype is about Toyota's wanting to keep accelerating.
> This POS had 3 brake pipes rusted not with pin holes but 4 inches of
> pipe was gone on 3 separate brake pipes.
> I mentioned this to a relative who used to work for Ford, he said the
> 96, 97, and 98 Taurus and Sables would pop brake pipes routinely but
> there was never a recall on them.
> He told me right where they rusted out, same place as this car did.
> Design flaw? Made in china pipes?
> I have taken apart 50 year old Sprites and never saw brake pipes
> corroded as bad as they were on this 13 year old Merc.
> And the brakes failed 3 years ago, so 10 years out of brake pipes?
> If anyone out there owns one of these CHECK THE BRAKE PIPES right under
> the drivers side rear door.
> The rest of the car's problems were minor, a sensor, a belt, some WD40,
> and a good cleaning. Now it goes well and it even stops on a dime with
> out the pedal going to the floor.
> It's for sale to finance more Sprite work ;)
>  > --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
> __________________________

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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 07:58:14 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 08:58:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - 137 years of Popular Science magazine
Message-ID: <8de85a9c1003080658t32cb47b0s2817478a63a2d8d0@mail.gmail.com>

Start browsing in 2009 issues with this link:
http://books.google.com/books/serial/wzsEAAAAMBAJ?rview=1

OR,
Start all the way back in May 1872 with this link:
http://books.google.com/books/serial/wzsEAAAAMBAJ?rview=1&lr=&sa=N&start=1560

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 08:00:38 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:00:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
In-Reply-To: <228190.49349.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <BLU103-W94C8EB03535FD3746C1D1C2350@phx.gbl>
	<228190.49349.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003080700o1ce36f19v9bc04080da311ec1@mail.gmail.com>

The Ford Econoline van that the Miata club uses to haul cones and
equipment to the autocrosses blew a rusted brake line a couple years
ago. During my break periods I ran off to the FLAPS, bought some brake
fluid, a flaring kit and some tubing and a F/F connector and replaced
the last foot or so of brake line going to the rear axle. Kinda
shocked the Miata crowd...
David L

From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 08:05:24 2010
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:05:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
References: <228190.49349.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAD73E9AB12B48B8B7E930FFF66A6F15@Inspiron>

Here in the Great White North, we rust proof our cars, they last a lot 
longer .L.O.L.  The guys that drive the city salt trucks here must have 
shares in Windsor Salt, they really like to spread lots of it around. I had 
a 96 Taurus that I drove for 13 years and put over 200k on the car, no rusty 
brake lines, the engine, tranny, front end was  shot, I drove it to the bone 
yard and got $90.00. I still know a few guys who spray the under side of 
their trucks with used engine oil, followed by a drive over a dusty road to 
keep the oil in place, no rust. Does that count as a Green Initiative ??

Greg Higgins
63 sprite

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "HealeyRick" <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "brian S" 
<bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general


> We got my MIL's 20k mi 97 Taurus when she passed two years ago.  Replaced 
> the
> rusted brake pipes a couple of months ago.
>
> Rick

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 08:33:47 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:33:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
Message-ID: <402188521003080733r7d9e542crbed570b3668245c9@mail.gmail.com>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8555609.stm
Apparently the interlock on the door of the elevator in his house
malfunctioned and he walked into an open shaft.
This is a highly trained driver on a closed course; Don't try this at home!
David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Mar  8 08:36:01 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:36:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Strling Moss fall down lift shaft - No Joke!
Message-ID: <749985.47013.qm@web84204.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8555609.stmDave G.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  8 10:26:50 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:26:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
In-Reply-To: <402188521003080733r7d9e542crbed570b3668245c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <782216.55201.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Terrible news.  I've admired Sir Stirling since I first got interested in
sports cars at around the age of ten.  I remember clearly the reports of his
horrific accident at Goodwood in 1962  I had a brief  encounter with him once
at Lime Rock when we passed near the timing stand  I caught his eye and we
nodded at each other.  I was too star struck to even say hello.  I'm heading
to Florida this week and am going to spend Sunday at the Amelia Island
Concours, where Sir Stirling was to be honored.  I had hoped to say hello this
time, at least.  Very disappointing.  Best wishes for a speedy reovery.

Rick


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--- On Mon, 3/8/10, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 10:33 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8555609.stm
Apparently the interlock on the door of the elevator in his house
malfunctioned and he walked into an open shaft.
This is a highly trained driver on a closed course; Don't try this at home!
David L
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Mar  8 10:45:05 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:45:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
In-Reply-To: <402188521003080733r7d9e542crbed570b3668245c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188521003080733r7d9e542crbed570b3668245c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <12273A284D464A47AA411D334CE9FBEB@Home>

Someone in NY died last week from just this circumstance - he backed into 
the shaft while carrying a mattress.  The management claims that the door's 
fail-safe mechanism must have been overridden by someone with a key.  Sound 
like Toyota?

Michael Rowe 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar  8 11:42:05 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:42:05 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
Message-ID: <20d90.4a29d0ba.38c69efd@aol.com>

Who insists he doesn't need to wear a proper crash helmet!
 
In a message dated 08/03/2010 15:59:59 GMT Standard Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

This is  a highly trained driver on a closed course

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar  8 11:54:09 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 13:54:09 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
Message-ID: <21d6a.677dbdb6.38c6a1d1@aol.com>

In the UK, the rigid brake lines are closely checked on the annual MOT  
(inspection) include a check with pressure on the brake pedal.
 
My car runs a mixture of pure copper (I know, I know) and copper/nickek  
brake pipes that haven't given my any problems over many years of use.   
Standard UK lines are mild steel with some kind of coating (zinc?).
 
If I were in the USA and copper/nickel lines weren't legal I'd certainly  
get stainless steel lines fitted.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 08/03/2010 03:30:35 GMT Standard Time,  
biffjones at verizon.net writes:

but each  line had a 3 -4" section that was 
severely rusted and once the rust was  scraped off and the brakes used they 
would weep brake fluid. 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Mar  8 12:54:22 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:54:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
In-Reply-To: <20d90.4a29d0ba.38c69efd@aol.com>
References: <20d90.4a29d0ba.38c69efd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <132479.55688.qm@web84204.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

________________________________

 But I never saw him race without one -- saloon or open-wheel... !!

Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
> Who insists he doesn't need to wear a proper crash helmet!

From conen at bellsouth.net  Mon Mar  8 13:00:29 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:00:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Trans Oil
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003080251l42a00c1fw8cd0942427f0f35b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55991.38176.qm@web180211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

  Sorry, Mike.  I have no idea.  I've never used it, but a friend of mine
sells it. (I have -no- financial interest, etc.)
  He's been using and selling
it ever since he was one of the managers at Miller & Norburn back when they
were winning IMSA RS Challenge races.  They used it to solve rear-end problems
with the racing BMW 2002.
  He also has years of experience working on LBCs
and FIATs at various times.  (His wife was one of the top FIAT drivers in the
southeast at one time.  SCCA FIAT 128 coupe.)
  I'm sure he'd be happy to talk
to you about it.  His name is Tom Bishop and his website is:
www.autosportgallery.com   Phone: (800)868-2002
  Ed in NC

--- On Mon,
3/8/10, rrengineer 
>      Which of the lubricants is for use in the Datsun
>
transmission?
> Mike
> 
>   LE brand (Lubrication Engineers)
> products are
also supposed to frequently be quite good at
> making poor synchros work
again. 
>  Ed in NC

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Mar  8 13:08:20 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 12:08:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
Message-ID: <8af901cabefb$199abb00$056a010a@mail2world.com>

Moss does sell the copper-nickel sets for Spridgets in the US, so
presumably they're legal.
 
In the parts stores I've seen the mild steel lines and another easily
bendable type, which may be copper-nickel.
 
-=Chris


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
[WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
Sent: 3/8/2010 1:54:09 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines 

In the UK, the rigid brake lines are closely checked on the annual MOT 
(inspection) include a check with pressure on the brake pedal. 

My car runs a mixture of pure copper (I know, I know) and copper/nickek 
brake pipes that haven't given my any problems over many years of use. 
Standard UK lines are mild steel with some kind of coating (zinc?). 

If I were in the USA and copper/nickel lines weren't legal I'd certainly
get stainless steel lines fitted. 

Regards 

Weslake-Monza 1330 



. 

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 13:15:19 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:15:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
In-Reply-To: <402188521003080733r7d9e542crbed570b3668245c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188521003080733r7d9e542crbed570b3668245c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c1003081215n2949cbe9m700b1759cd4e6e2c@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.stirlingmoss.com/articles/news/press-release-following-stirlings-accident#comment-355

or

http://tinyurl.com/yeul3ak

"Keep your pecker up!"

I'm guessing that has a slightly different meaning across the Pond.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Mar  8 13:44:17 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:44:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
In-Reply-To: <8af901cabefb$199abb00$056a010a@mail2world.com>
References: <8af901cabefb$199abb00$056a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <97569CFD-E9A4-4F62-AAF9-315B3D9F8450@comcast.net>

Anything that you put on the car is legal,  What the manufacturer puts  
on MAY be a different matter.  CuNi is the way to go from what I have  
seen.

Lester

.. the Jag is now so equipped.


On Mar 8, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Chris King wrote:

> Moss does sell the copper-nickel sets for Spridgets in the US, so
> presumably they're legal.
>
> In the parts stores I've seen the mild steel lines and another easily
> bendable type, which may be copper-nickel.
>
> -=Chris
>
>
> Chris King
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
>
> <-----Original Message----->
>
> 	  	 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> [WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
> Sent: 3/8/2010 1:54:09 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] brake lines
>
> In the UK, the rigid brake lines are closely checked on the annual MOT
> (inspection) include a check with pressure on the brake pedal.
>
> My car runs a mixture of pure copper (I know, I know) and copper/ 
> nickek
> brake pipes that haven't given my any problems over many years of use.
> Standard UK lines are mild steel with some kind of coating (zinc?).
>
> If I were in the USA and copper/nickel lines weren't legal I'd  
> certainly
> get stainless steel lines fitted.
>
> Regards
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
>
>
> .
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From grday at btinternet.com  Mon Mar  8 14:26:29 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:26:29 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
References: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>,
	<206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<1267810257.2344.0.camel@WebBrowser><BAY112-W499B3F45469192932BEA67B8380@phx.gbl>
	<021301cabec5$060cb010$12261030$@net>
Message-ID: <D30676D8D2094B7C8B2094EC9AA243CF@user8634b3d69b>

I have two of them on the front of my garage, but the side rails go a little 
higher than the garage door opening so the gap at the top remains constant 
as they go up and down and the roll diameter alters above the opening.  Most 
of my heat goes out through the metal of the door - but on sunny days the 
opposite occurs and they act as a heating panel.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heard" <heard at datatrontech.net>
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"


>I have 3 of these things on my workshop.  I really like them, but if you
> want to keep the a/c or heat in and the bugs out, you have to buy some 
> extra
> brushes to close the gaps.  If you think about the way the door operates,
> the coil gets smaller and smaller as the door closes.  This causes the gap
> between the door and the framing at the top of the door to get wider and
> wider.  I have 10' tall doors and when they are fully closed, there is 
> about
> a 2-3" gap at the top.  The brushes solved that issue pretty well.
>
> Heard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 2:44 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
>
> That would do it!!  :)
>
>
>
> I have enough room for the lift.  My garage is something like 21 or 23 
> feet
> deep inside.  Still, I have to be careful.
>
>
>
> Someone on the Healey list said that they ( or some variant ) can be
> insulated.
>
>
> I'm not looking to change my garage door.  I'm more concerned about the
> floor
> at this moment.  I just happened across it.
>
>
> Robert
>
>> From: lists at dinospider.com
>>
>> I really wanted one of these doors for my garage to allow my car on
>> the lift when the door was open but they are not insulated and quite
>> noisy in the wind. I took out the back wall of the garage and moved it
>> 22 feet away instead :)
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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 14:56:48 2010
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:56:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
In-Reply-To: <021301cabec5$060cb010$12261030$@net>
References: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>
	<206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<021301cabec5$060cb010$12261030$@net>
Message-ID: <abb8688a1003081356r15a6c8e7jb1772fb12f244e1a@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting.  I have seen these in commercial applications where the
track at the top of the door is connected to an enclosure.  The
enclosure is basically a box that hides the roll and keeps the outside
if the door at the same distance from the wall all the time.  I think
the brand I saw was Raynor.

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Heard <heard at datatrontech.net> wrote:
> I have 3 of these things on my workshop.  I really like them, but if you
> want to keep the a/c or heat in and the bugs out, you have to buy some
extra
> brushes to close the gaps.  If you think about the way the door operates,
> the coil gets smaller and smaller as the door closes.  This causes the gap
> between the door and the framing at the top of the door to get wider and
> wider.  I have 10' tall doors and when they are fully closed, there is
about
> a 2-3" gap at the top.  The brushes solved that issue pretty well.
>
> Heard
=================================
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= can offend with substance --- Sam Brown  =
=================================

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar  8 15:03:07 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 16:03:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Hemmings Sprite Article
Message-ID: <402188521003081403w7e7ef491p3c02a0d1cca8ebed@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine this month...
As was mentioned earlier, there is an article on a Sprite in Vermont
with a Jaguar 3.8 in it. FrankenSprite (similar to the Fright of Colin
Dodds).

Satch Carlson's column is about the demise of Saab. I find his
concluding paragraph very interesting... As far as he is concerned,
Saab died when they put the name onto an Oldsmobile Bravada. Very good
point.

There is also an article about a father/son restoration of a Bugeye. A
few items of confusion in there, such as the statement that they sent
the body shell out for painting, etc and worked on the chassis while
waiting for the shell to come back. Not quite sure how they pulled
that one off ;-) Another paragraph talks about the car having had some
kind of factory-installed padding in the boot that they had to
laboriously scrape off. I don't recall seeing that in Horler; anyone
know what they are talking about?
David L

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  8 15:56:18 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 14:56:18 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hemmings Sprite Article
Message-ID: <395028.87115.qm@web46404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have padding in the boot of  37190 (April 1960).  It feels like felt coated
with tar.  I was going to scrape it off because the BMIHT said there is a
chassis number stamped into the diff. tunnel but decided not too. Skip J.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Mar  8 16:09:55 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:09:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
Message-ID: <6D15E60A99A34490BB613C357FC8658E@spider>

Incredible....a lifetime of danger as a race driver dependent on his
vehicles not malfunctioning and the frigging elevator in his home fails.
Did it run on Lucas electricals? ...bill in oregon

========================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 11:00 AM
To: Carlson, Marlan
Subject: from the Spridget site; Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8555609.stm

Apparently the interlock on the door of the elevator in his house
malfunctioned and he walked into an open shaft.
This is a highly trained driver on a closed course; Don't try this at home!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Mar  8 16:19:42 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 15:19:42 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Hemmings Sprite Article
In-Reply-To: <402188521003081403w7e7ef491p3c02a0d1cca8ebed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188521003081403w7e7ef491p3c02a0d1cca8ebed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7A28C40AF41645529F4F527A46B98ABB@spider>

Glad to see that Satch is still writing.
I just found his book in my 'collection.' Runnin' On Empty; The Best of
Satch Carlson. 1988 ...signed.  ...bill in oregon
========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 2:03 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Hemmings Sprite Article

 . . .

Satch Carlson's column is about the demise of Saab. I find his
concluding paragraph very interesting... As far as he is concerned,
Saab died when they put the name onto an Oldsmobile Bravada. Very good
point.

. . . 
David L
_______________________________________________

From Joea at wgegroup.com  Mon Mar  8 16:43:30 2010
From: Joea at wgegroup.com (Joe Armour)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:43:30 +1100
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6939.1268070333.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.6939.1268070333.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D0303B55@server.wgegroup.com>

I was fortunate to be introduced to The Man at an historic race meeting
in Australia and had noticed most people asked one of about five
standard questions relating to his motor racing. Rather than insult the
man I asked, "How is your sister?" He became very forthcoming and gave
me a great insight into her then current activities. Suddenly he
hesitated and asked,"Do you know my sister?" Answer, "NO, but I own a
Healey and she was very successful with them in European rallies"
Sir Stirling then said, "I drove Healeys too you know" I had to advise
him I was aware of that but he had not always been complimentary.
" The bloody wheels fell of them, but Donald was such a lovely man that
I really enjoyed my time with him" ( Remember that he and Donald water
skied together at Stirling's hiouse in the Bahamas. Read Ken Gregory's
book re his life as Stirling's manager. There are Sprite references all
through it as Gregory was Healeys P.R. man with a Sprite as a Company
car

By this time his minders had decided I had taken up too much of their
celebrities time and they moved him on.
So my advice is if you ever get the opportunity, think of a non-standard
question/subject, don't bore him.

Joe Armour




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From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Mar  9 08:22:53 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 07:22:53 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
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	<8de85a9c1003081215n2949cbe9m700b1759cd4e6e2c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3F4C3088-1C4B-4055-BF8B-B021A58906D8@ado13.com>

Does anyone have a snail mail address for Sir Stirling?

Many members of my local car club have meet him and the club would like to
send a card.

Tks
Larry Miller
Pebble Beach Sports Car Club

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Tue Mar  9 08:37:59 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:37:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss Broke both ankles!
In-Reply-To: <3F4C3088-1C4B-4055-BF8B-B021A58906D8@ado13.com>
References: <402188521003080733r7d9e542crbed570b3668245c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c1003081215n2949cbe9m700b1759cd4e6e2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<3F4C3088-1C4B-4055-BF8B-B021A58906D8@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <201003091538.o29FcQPM029734@mail.usimperio.com>

Only address I could find

http://www.fanmail.biz/109169.html

Dave

At 10:22 AM 3/9/2010, you wrote:
>Does anyone have a snail mail address for Sir Stirling?
>
>Many members of my local car club have meet him and the club would like to
>send a card.
>
>Tks
>Larry Miller
>Pebble Beach Sports Car Club

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar  9 09:27:28 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:27:28 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] for Frank - no lbc
Message-ID: <BAY112-W427412F02A4E8A5826D861B8340@phx.gbl>

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Rustoleum.JPG

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Mar  9 10:16:08 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:16:08 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage door idea - "no car specific content"
In-Reply-To: <abb8688a1003081356r15a6c8e7jb1772fb12f244e1a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY112-W214F7665245CFE4CD59FE0B8380@phx.gbl>
	<206316.52826.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1267810257.2344.0.camel@WebBrowser>
	<BAY112-W499B3F45469192932BEA67B8380@phx.gbl>
	<021301cabec5$060cb010$12261030$@net>
	<abb8688a1003081356r15a6c8e7jb1772fb12f244e1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6E0C573E-C7CF-4D23-9EEB-3A47B55C5F95@comcast.net>

I have the commercial type of these doors, MUCH heavier grade steel  
and springs, requires a chain mechanism to raise and lower.  Got the  
heavy duty one after someone broke into my shop by putting a 2x4 under  
the door and lifting it up enough to get a sandblaster out.  Used  
Overhead Door company.

Lester

On Mar 8, 2010, at 3:56 PM, John Innis wrote:

> Interesting.  I have seen these in commercial applications where the
> track at the top of the door is connected to an enclosure.  The
> enclosure is basically a box that hides the roll and keeps the outside
> if the door at the same distance from the wall all the time.  I think
> the brand I saw was Raynor.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Mar  9 11:09:00 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:09:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Healey Club Magazines - FREE
Message-ID: <298813.17865.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have a pile of Healey Club magazines (ahca and specific centre) getting closer to the back door. If anyone wants them, they can have them for the cost of shipping (media mail might not be too expensive).

The stack is about 12" high and are probably 80's and 90's.

Contact me off-list. I hate to toss them.

jay
wallingford, ct

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Mar  9 14:35:53 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:35:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me
Message-ID: <e98d88091003091335w284cad58gf451c442e43e3451@mail.gmail.com>

South of DFW, there is a daily am radio show called Trade Fair. From 8:30 am
to 11 am, you can call in every other day, and offer up 3 items for sale, or
request items, for FREE.
This morning, a man was on there offering up his Morris Truck. I am not
interested, but have spoken with him in the off chance that someone on the
list may be interested in a Texas truck. He says it has a 948, single carb,
ribcase transmission, with an upgrade to Spridget disc brakes in front, and
a 4.22 rear diff. He is asking $5000 obo. He was using it as his primary
vehicle for work for 6 months, driving 100 miles round trip each day. He
claims that he would drive it ANYWHERE, without care or concern of
mechanical failure.
He is about 7 miles from me, so in about an hour or so, I am scheduled to go
over and take photos of the vehicle, just in case someone is interested.
IF you would like me to send you photos, please email me off list. Also,
should you have any suggestions of where to look, and or photograph, please
email me quite promptly.

Thank you,
Brad
-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar  9 15:24:37 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:24:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Jim Johnson on his BMW
Message-ID: <580CD247132144F18FB601B0EAF3DC8C@HomePC>

Just showin' off....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alY9WpTqN3k&feature=player_embedded


http://tinyurl.com/yga28uw

From alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com  Tue Mar  9 16:00:14 2010
From: alan.east-jones at ntlworld.com (Alan East-Jones)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:00:14 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] nlbc  sir stirling  and  short video request
Message-ID: <135F502D9FE24D0AA6C084565D00B288@desktop>

Video was taken at the Wales v Italy rugby match . It is of a group of
Italians singing their national anthem , trying to out sing the Welsh .
The more hits the video gets the better chance I get of winning some tickets
for this years event ( redundancy and lack of work seriously curtails my
leisure activities !)
thanks in anticipation  Alan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOs01Tt8FqQ

I had the pleasure of chatting to Sir Stirling for 3/4 hour or so . mostly
about the 1955 mille miglia  and also a bit about Pat and the minis and
healeys she and he drove. But a lot of the time I spoke to Suzy , - Stirlings
wife - mainly regarding them in the USA and about Stirling and the gadgets he
has around his house in London.   Until then I thought that he was a very good
self publicist and had witnessed his arrogance at Silverstone when he went to
the wrong pitlane following a 'race ' he had with Surtees Andretti (snr) and
others at Silverstone classic event . (24-26 July this year I will be there
with my Frogeye again)
TIA
Alan

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Mar  9 16:12:38 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:12:38 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] for Frank - no lbc
Message-ID: <0e2301cabfde$031875a0$0168010a@mail2world.com>

That's because the rustoleum is on the INSIDE of the can! :)

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca [robertduquette at sympatico.ca]
>Sent: 3/9/2010 11:27:28 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] for Frank - no lbc
>
>http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Rustoleum.JPG
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From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar  9 19:36:47 2010
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:36:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Message from Sir Stirling via Motorsport Collector
Message-ID: <9061.40510.qm@web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Sent his before but apparently it didn't go thru so will try again.








--- On Tue, 3/9/10, The Motorsport Collector <pz at motorsportcollector.com>
wrote:


From: The Motorsport Collector <pz at motorsportcollector.com>
Subject: Message from Sir Stirling

Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 12:23 PM












~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

TO ALL MY FRIENDS (AND ALL THOSE WHO ARE KIND ENOUGH TO CARE),


 DEAR ALL OF YOU,
THE LAST FEW DAYS HAVE BEEN QUITE FANTASTIC AND I'D LIKE TO THANK EACH AND
EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR KIND THOUGHTS, MESSAGES AND OTHER PARAPHERNALIA.
ON SATURDAY EVENING, I WAS AT HOME WITH SUSIE, ELLIOT AND HELEN AND ABOUT TO
LEAVE FOR A CURRY, FOR WHICH WE WERE RUNNING LATE. I ASKED HELEN TO JOIN ME IN
THE LIFT TO GO DOWNSTAIRS, BECAUSE SUSIE AND ELLIOT WERE SMART ENOUGH NOT TO
RIDE IN MY LIFT. I OPENED THE DOOR AND STEPPED INTO THE LIFT, WITH HELEN READY
TO FOLLOW ME, WHICH SHE NEVER DID. THAT IS BECAUSE THE LIFT HAD STOPPED ON THE
FLOOR ABOVE AND INCORRECTLY ALLOWED THE DOOR BENEATH IT TO OPEN.
STILL CHATTING TO HELEN, I STEPPED INTO THE OPEN DOORWAY-- AND FELL TO THE
BOTTOM OF THE LIFT SHAFT.
THE AMBULANCE WAS CALLED AND ARRIVED AT RACING SPEED, WHEREUPON THEY PUT ME
ONTO A SERIES OF ABOUT 10 STRETCHERS! HAVING FINALLY SETTLED ON WHAT MUST HAVE
SEEMED A GOOD ONE, I WAS TAKEN, ALONG WITH MY FAMILY TO THE ROYAL LONDON
HOSPITAL IN WHITECHAPEL, WHERE THEY USED ANOTHER BATCH OF SIMILAR STRETCHERS!
THEY DID A GOOD JOB OF HELPING ME, BUT WERE UNABLE TO DO THE REQUISITE
SURGERY. SO, ON THE SUNDAY, I WAS MOVED TO THE PRINCESS GRACE, WHERE A
FANTASTICALLY EFFICIENT, KIND AND AMUSING STAFF DID ALL THE JOBS.
I AM NOW IN A LOVELY ROOM, NUMBER 222, AND WITH THE HELP OF ELLIOT AND THE
PORTER, AM FINALLY ON THE EMAIL. THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT I WILL BE ABLE TO
ACTUALLY SEND THIS TO YOU, BUT I WILL TRY!
NOW FOR THE FUTURE... WHICH I CAN SEE WITH SUSIE, HELEN AND ELLIOT AROUND ME,
IS GOING TO BE A BLOODY STRUGGLE!
AS SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW, SUSIE AND I ARE BOOKED ON A SEABOURN CRUISE FOR OUR
30TH ANNIVERSARY, NEXT MONTH. I HAVE TO CROSS THE HURDLE OF GETTING THE
DOCORS, AND FAMLY HANGERS-ON, TO ALLOW ME TO THIN MY BLOOD, IN ORDER TO AVOID
ANY ISSUES INVOLVING DEEP VEIN THROMBOSIS.
IT WILL BE SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS FROM SUNDAY BEFORE I WILL ABLE TO PUT ANY LOAD
ON MY FEET. THEREFORE I'M FACING MY SIXTH OR SEVENTH REDUCTION TO A WHEELCHAIR
(SUSIE SAYS SHE'S STOPPED COUNTING) WHICH I MUST ADMIT, IS RATHER BORING. THE
GOOD NEWS IS; THAT I DIDN'T SELL THE WHEELCHAIR AFTER THE LAST SHUNT!
THE WHOLE THING IS A REAL PAIN IN THE ARSE, IF I HAD LOOKED WHERE I WAS GOING,
I WOULDN'T BE HERE AT ALL, SO IT'S MY OWN DAMN FAULT.
I HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY OVERWHELMED BY YOUR COLLECTIVE CONCERN AND KINDNESS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT CURRENTLY I'M LYING IN HOSPITAL, TAKING DEEP BREATHS,
LIFTING ONE ARM WITH THE OTHER, RAISING MY LEGS (WITH PLASTERS ON THE END) AND
DOING ALL I CAN DO TO KEEP MYSELF AS MOBILE AS POSSIBLE, BUT, HAVING SAID
THAT, I'M NOT YET WINNING THE BATTLE.
I'M NOT SURE WHEN I'LL BE ABLE TO GO HOME BUT THE LIFT HAS TO WORK, OTHERWISE
I'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET UPSTAIRS IN MY WHEELCHAIR, MAYBE I'LL GO AND STAY
WITH HELEN AND ELLIOT FOR A WHILE...
THIS REALLY HAS OPENED MY EYES TO HOW KIND ALL MY FRIENDS ARE, OVER AN OLD EX-
RACING DRIVER, FLOGGING A FADING IMAGE!
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU SOON,
MANY THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR THOUGHTS,
CIAO



================================
Our best to Sir Stirling and Lady Susan.
- Paul





























 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Mar 10 05:50:17 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:50:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] for Frank - no lbc
In-Reply-To: <0e2301cabfde$031875a0$0168010a@mail2world.com>
References: <0e2301cabfde$031875a0$0168010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W524D7CF2A4284226415EE0B8330@phx.gbl>

... and, why is that?  :)

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada



From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu

That's because the rustoleum is on the INSIDE of the can! :)

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message----->
>
>http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/Rustoleum.JPG

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Mar 10 07:14:11 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:14:11 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003091335w284cad58gf451c442e43e3451@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88091003091335w284cad58gf451c442e43e3451@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AE6C72E1-1DF9-4691-96FC-95D0503722BC@comcast.net>

Well.. what did ya find out?

Lester

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 08:17:10 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:17:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me
In-Reply-To: <AE6C72E1-1DF9-4691-96FC-95D0503722BC@comcast.net>
References: <e98d88091003091335w284cad58gf451c442e43e3451@mail.gmail.com>
	<AE6C72E1-1DF9-4691-96FC-95D0503722BC@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003100717x135513cfl1feb38b26515bbfb@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I got some photos, it isn't pristine by any stretch, but it runs great
and doesn't look bad. He even has the Conestoga cover
 and most of the parts to fasten it all down that goes with it. I took 9
photos of the truck, 1 of a photo of a truck with the cover on it, and a 15
second quicktime file of the engine running. It accelerates quite well for a
948 single carb, but it feels like it would need Peter to give some
attention to the shocks. I can send photos and video to interested parties
BUT, he just called me, and is starting to have second thoughts about
selling it. In order for him to put fresh paint on it, and purchase an
interior kit, he is now thinking of selling his 67 Morris convertible. It
has the 1098 in it, and he will be moving it out of the garage for photos
later today, if the rain doesn't come in. He says he will be asking $2000
for it.
I told him that I could take photos and pass them around here, but I
couldn't promise anything, since this isn't a Morris community.
He may, or may not call me, to take photos.
If you MIGHT be interested, please, let me know asap, and I'll call him back
and tell him I have "X" number of folks waiting for photos. He was surprised
that I already had several folks asking for the pictures of the truck.
I guess the warmer weather is bringing out the British cars from the barns
and sheds they are hiding in.
IF my posting these finds is NOT appropriate, someone please say something,
and I'll find another way to keep folks informed as the cars come out of the
thaw.
FWIW, I also went and checked out a 71 Midget. Body has a dent in the left
door, left fender dented from where he backed his pickup into it with his
tailgate down. A few small bubbles on the bottom of both A pillars, but
lower hinge mounts are solid. Left rear lower wing rusted inside and out.
Top frame broken, top rotted, but seats and floors not too bad. He says he
has fuel up to the carbs, but it won't start without force feeding them.
There are wires hanging back around the fuel pump, and out of the right side
of engine compartment. Brake master is empty, so I have some concerns about
the condition of braking system.
The title is in the name of an owner that is a guest of our Texas prison
system serving 3 life sentences (I guess not ALL Spridget owners are good
people) but he claims that he can get that fixed. He is asking $4500 for it.
I asked him to contact me after he has held it for a while. With the issues
it has, and our Texas demographic, I just don't see him getting that kind of
money.
If it had a clear title, and was a running, driving, stopping car, it would
be a different story, IMHO.

Brad


On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Well.. what did ya find out?
>
> Lester
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 10 09:00:46 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:00:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003100717x135513cfl1feb38b26515bbfb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88091003091335w284cad58gf451c442e43e3451@mail.gmail.com><AE6C72E1-1DF9-4691-96FC-95D0503722BC@comcast.net>
	<e98d88091003100717x135513cfl1feb38b26515bbfb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B79AAD597AE34E0BBF2202ED8623F27F@HomePC>

Brad, I don't see any problem with what you are doing.  They are LBC 
related; you aren't a pro trying to clear cars off your lot and some guys 
may well be interested in these cars.  We can see your heading and pass on 
it if we want.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:17 AM
To: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Yahoo Spridget list" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me

Well, I got some photos, it isn't pristine by any stretch, but it runs great
and doesn't look bad. He even has the Conestoga cover
 and most of the parts to fasten it all down that goes with it. I took 9
photos of the truck, 1 of a photo of a truck with the cover on it, and a 15
second quicktime file of the engine running. It accelerates quite well for a
948 single carb, but it feels like it would need Peter to give some
attention to the shocks. I can send photos and video to interested parties
BUT, he just called me, and is starting to have second thoughts about
selling it. In order for him to put fresh paint on it, and purchase an
interior kit, he is now thinking of selling his 67 Morris convertible. It
has the 1098 in it, and he will be moving it out of the garage for photos
later today, if the rain doesn't come in. He says he will be asking $2000
for it.
I told him that I could take photos and pass them around here, but I
couldn't promise anything, since this isn't a Morris community.
He may, or may not call me, to take photos.
If you MIGHT be interested, please, let me know asap, and I'll call him back
and tell him I have "X" number of folks waiting for photos. He was surprised
that I already had several folks asking for the pictures of the truck.
I guess the warmer weather is bringing out the British cars from the barns
and sheds they are hiding in.
IF my posting these finds is NOT appropriate, someone please say something,
and I'll find another way to keep folks informed as the cars come out of the
thaw.
FWIW, I also went and checked out a 71 Midget. Body has a dent in the left
door, left fender dented from where he backed his pickup into it with his
tailgate down. A few small bubbles on the bottom of both A pillars, but
lower hinge mounts are solid. Left rear lower wing rusted inside and out.
Top frame broken, top rotted, but seats and floors not too bad. He says he
has fuel up to the carbs, but it won't start without force feeding them.
There are wires hanging back around the fuel pump, and out of the right side
of engine compartment. Brake master is empty, so I have some concerns about
the condition of braking system.
The title is in the name of an owner that is a guest of our Texas prison
system serving 3 life sentences (I guess not ALL Spridget owners are good
people) but he claims that he can get that fixed. He is asking $4500 for it.
I asked him to contact me after he has held it for a while. With the issues
it has, and our Texas demographic, I just don't see him getting that kind of
money.
If it had a clear title, and was a running, driving, stopping car, it would
be a different story, IMHO.

Brad


On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Well.. what did ya find out?
>
> Lester
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 09:26:13 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:26:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue
Message-ID: <e98d88091003100826q230da3ccn91836282d4f300ab@mail.gmail.com>

Frank brought up the problem of some Fords having the brake lines rust out
on them. My neighbor, whom I like, drives a 95 Taurus SHO. I mentioned to
him, the problems the list was discussing, and if some of you could pinpoint
the areas/sections of the brake lines that need intense inspection, please
hit me off list. Since we don't salt our roads down here, I don't know if
this will be a big issue, but I'd still like to get it up on jack stands and
roll under it to check it out.

Thanks,
Brad

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From davriker at nwi.net  Wed Mar 10 10:15:14 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 09:15:14 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue
References: <e98d88091003100826q230da3ccn91836282d4f300ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B6468175A504024AE319F9181A2E7C7@MAIN>

Brad,
If I understand this correctly, it isn't the pipes rusting on the outside, 
it is water collecting INSIDE at low points and rusting through the pipes 
inside out.

As good stewards of our automobiles, we probably religiously flush all of 
the fluids on our beloved LBC's on a regular basis.  With our daily drivers, 
however, we expect that we can drive them with little more than fuel and oil 
changes.  MODERN CARS NEED THEIR BRAKE FLUID FLUSHED TOO!!!!  It does not 
surprise me that these lines are failing.  Brake fluid is hydroscopic... it 
absorbs water.  Modern systems are better sealed, but not 100% sealed. 
Every two years FLUSH YOUR BRAKE FLUID.  Your Taurus brake lines will then 
last virtually forever.

David R.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Yahoo Spridget list" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 8:26 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue


> Frank brought up the problem of some Fords having the brake lines rust out
> on them. My neighbor, whom I like, drives a 95 Taurus SHO. I mentioned to
> him, the problems the list was discussing, and if some of you could 
> pinpoint
> the areas/sections of the brake lines that need intense inspection, please
> hit me off list. Since we don't salt our roads down here, I don't know if
> this will be a big issue, but I'd still like to get it up on jack stands 
> and
> roll under it to check it out.
>
> Thanks,
> Brad
>
> -- 
> DON JULIO 1942
>
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From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Wed Mar 10 11:06:18 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:06:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003100816w49bfab86y383645ce2de8a38c@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <e98d88091003091335w284cad58gf451c442e43e3451@mail.gmail.com>
	<AE6C72E1-1DF9-4691-96FC-95D0503722BC@comcast.net>
	<e98d88091003100717x135513cfl1feb38b26515bbfb@mail.gmail.com>
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	<e98d88091003100816w49bfab86y383645ce2de8a38c@mail.gmail.com>
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Posted to http://www.brrta.org/brad

Dave

From biffjones at verizon.net  Wed Mar 10 11:45:19 2010
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:45:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue
References: <e98d88091003100826q230da3ccn91836282d4f300ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<9B6468175A504024AE319F9181A2E7C7@MAIN>
Message-ID: <B1A393338C8C4C2E8D8264D61D575E97@dell1>

David,

I cannot speak for the Tarus/Sable's but on my Bronco it was from the 
outside in. Two brake lines rotted out just below the anti-lock unit and the 
other two in the main rear line just behind the drivers door and the 
crossover line to the rear passenger side. None of these were low points 
where water could collect and rust from the inside out. Each of these lines 
had sections 3 to 4"s long that were severely rusted on the outside while 
the rest of the line was clean with just a road film on them. I forgot to 
say in my original post that all my lines were only 9 years old when I had 
to replace them. Since then I inspect them yearly. The replacement lines 
(non Ford) are not showing the rusting the originals showed.

Biff 


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From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Mar 10 12:10:56 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:10:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue
In-Reply-To: <B1A393338C8C4C2E8D8264D61D575E97@dell1>
References: <e98d88091003100826q230da3ccn91836282d4f300ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<9B6468175A504024AE319F9181A2E7C7@MAIN>
	<B1A393338C8C4C2E8D8264D61D575E97@dell1>
Message-ID: <201003101110182.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

On my 93 Nissan Quest, the Ford Windstar brake line parts rusted. The 
Nissan parts were fine.
         Peter C
===
At 12:45 PM 3/10/2010, Biff Jones wrote:
>David,
>
>I cannot speak for the Tarus/Sable's but on my Bronco it was from the
>outside in. Two brake lines rotted out just below the anti-lock unit and the
>other two in the main rear line just behind the drivers door and the
>crossover line to the rear passenger side. None of these were low points
>where water could collect and rust from the inside out. Each of these lines
>had sections 3 to 4"s long that were severely rusted on the outside while
>the rest of the line was clean with just a road film on them. I forgot to
>say in my original post that all my lines were only 9 years old when I had
>to replace them. Since then I inspect them yearly. The replacement lines
>(non Ford) are not showing the rusting the originals showed.
>
>Biff

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Mar 10 14:17:44 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:17:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Floorpan drains
Message-ID: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>

Does anyone have experience putting drain holes in the floor pans?  How many, how big, where?  Must they have protection from road splash, or is it better just to let the water slosh in and out?

Today, I finished the last of the metal work on my BE tub - replacing an inner fender - and I will soon start stripping and painting.  I must bring it home to the big 240v compressor and work in the yard, which is subject to salt spray in storms - not the best environment - so I expect to work in sections, stripping, priming, and  painting all but the finished top-sides, which I can do in a cleaner place with my small 120v compressor.  All advice is gratefully accepted.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprint kit
Long Island, NY

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Mar 10 14:29:52 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:29:52 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Floorpan drains
In-Reply-To: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>
Message-ID: <C7BD4F50.24EA0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Just turn it upside down after heavy rain.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Mar 10 15:05:57 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:05:57 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Or use a Hankerchief NO LBC
Message-ID: <30fe8.6d6691b5.38c971c5@aol.com>

I think this is ridiculous but amusing.  
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LdNSNA70i4_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LdNSNA70i4) 
 
and NO I wasn't searching for something like this and found this but read  
in a British newspaper first.
 
NOT me!

From mgraziano at austin.rr.com  Wed Mar 10 15:03:53 2010
From: mgraziano at austin.rr.com (Michael Graziano)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:03:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] RARE MG ROVER 75 EX-UK GOV LIMOUSINE FOR SALE
Message-ID: <040001cac09d$93741fe0$ba5c5fa0$@rr.com>

Rover limo for $15,000 with 37,000 miles?  Not from me....


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris C [mailto:cc.misc at talktalk.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:40 PM
Subject: RE: RARE MG ROVER 75 EX-UK GOV LIMOUSINE FOR SALE

hi, pics as follows :-)

I am contemplating using it for chaffeur work, but need to find out if there
is any interest in US first.

I will only get about ?7,000 in the UK, I just thought I'd check out if
there would be a better deal to ship it to the US!?

Speak soon
Chris





-----Original Message-----
From: Chris C [mailto:cc.misc at talktalk.net]
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 8:57 AM
Subject: RARE MG ROVER 75 EX-UK GOV LIMOUSINE FOR SALE

Hi,

I am hoping that you may be able to put me in touch with MG enthusiasts in
the US that may be intererested in a very rare MG Rover 75 LWB Limousine
that I have for sale. It was previously owned by the UK government for
escorting MP's like Tony Blair around the London area!

I have the log book with service history and I have spoken to them over the
telephone. They have confirmed that it is one of the very last models ever
made.

A German collecter has purchased 4 models direct from the government agency
'GCDA' This is the only one that I have managed to secure privately from a
motor trader who bought it from them.

I have put a new MOT test on it and it only needed the headlamp adjusting!
It has covered only 37,000 miles from new with service history. I have also
just had the engine oil service done.

I have photos if you need them, it's a really beautiful car in metallic navy
blue.

I hope you can help :-)

regards,
Chris

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 10 15:50:03 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:50:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Floorpan drains
Message-ID: <408957.52016.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> Just turn it upside down after heavy
> rain.

Welcome back.

Ron

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Mar 10 15:52:57 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:52:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Or use a Hankerchief NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <30fe8.6d6691b5.38c971c5@aol.com>
References: <30fe8.6d6691b5.38c971c5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0C603472-6A8D-4BF9-8152-965EB404A772@comcast.net>

I had forgotten about the Ig Noble awards...  everyone in the office  
thinks I'm daft, can't stop laughing about the idea of some guys from  
U New Mexico convincing faculty that they could do their research in a  
strip club!!    And they did!

Lester


On Mar 10, 2010, at 4:05 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> I think this is ridiculous but amusing.
> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LdNSNA70i4_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LdNSNA70i4 
> )
>
> and NO I wasn't searching for something like this and found this but  
> read
> in a British newspaper first.
>
> NOT me!
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 15:57:25 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:57:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Jim Johnson on his BMW
In-Reply-To: <580CD247132144F18FB601B0EAF3DC8C@HomePC>
References: <580CD247132144F18FB601B0EAF3DC8C@HomePC>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003101457w5b857e6du8be86d797b7acdc1@mail.gmail.com>

Not even in my wildest dreams, Larry!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Just showin' off....
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alY9WpTqN3k&feature=player_embedded
>
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yga28uw
> _______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Mar 10 16:25:33 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:25:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003100826q230da3ccn91836282d4f300ab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88091003100826q230da3ccn91836282d4f300ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B982A6D.3080002@comcast.net>

Like Biff, the 97 Ford lines rusted out under the car about at the 
drivers rear door.
And the one that runs across the rear or whatever the back thing is in a 
front wheel drive car.
4 inches of each line rusted away, the rest of each line was fine.
So if many of these cars are rusting out in the same place, and not 
exactly where wheels throw salt at the lines,
Something is wrong. Maybe a drain channel runs out near this spot, I 
sold the car so I can not look for an exact cause.
But the whole bottom of this car was in real nice condition, no rust 
other than 4 inches of brake pipe on 2 lines and about 8 inches on the 
cross over line.
Again, the car was taken off the road when it was 10 years old due to 
brake failure.
Climb under and look it will be very obvious. Cancerous rust, flaking rust.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Mar 10 16:30:18 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:30:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Floorpan drains
In-Reply-To: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>
References: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>
Message-ID: <4B982B8A.8000303@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> Does anyone have experience putting drain holes in the floor pans?  How many, how big, where?  Must they have protection from road splash, or is it better just to let the water slosh in and out?
>   
I drill 3/8 holes in the bottom of the rockers every 2 feet or so.
2 drain holes in the trunk floor just inside the pinch weld, and  a hole 
or 2 behind the seats.
My theory is water in, water out. Mainly rain water.

Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Mar 10 16:53:46 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:53:46 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue
References: <e98d88091003100826q230da3ccn91836282d4f300ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B982A6D.3080002@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <7C4CBAEBB4504B288531476987D6712F@user8634b3d69b>

Are these areas where the brake line has to be flexed / bent to fit it in 
when new?   Is their coating compromised?  Or is that where they are held 
when they are bent and a coating sprayed on?

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Yahoo Spridget list" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue


> Like Biff, the 97 Ford lines rusted out under the car about at the drivers 
> rear door.
> And the one that runs across the rear or whatever the back thing is in a 
> front wheel drive car.
> 4 inches of each line rusted away, the rest of each line was fine.
> So if many of these cars are rusting out in the same place, and not 
> exactly where wheels throw salt at the lines,
> Something is wrong. Maybe a drain channel runs out near this spot, I sold 
> the car so I can not look for an exact cause.
> But the whole bottom of this car was in real nice condition, no rust other 
> than 4 inches of brake pipe on 2 lines and about 8 inches on the cross 
> over line.
> Again, the car was taken off the road when it was 10 years old due to 
> brake failure.
> Climb under and look it will be very obvious. Cancerous rust, flaking 
> rust.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Mar 10 17:57:34 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:57:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Floorpan drains
In-Reply-To: <4B982B8A.8000303@comcast.net>
References: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>
	<4B982B8A.8000303@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B983FFE.8040309@justbrits.com>

<< I drill 3/8 holes in... >>

Just how HARD are Stop Signs to drill, Frank ???

And I'm guessing we all would like to know how
difficult they are to weld ??  Or do you just use
'drill screws' <G> ??

Anon

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Mar 10 18:24:39 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:24:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Floorpan drains
In-Reply-To: <4B983FFE.8040309@justbrits.com>
References: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>
	<4B982B8A.8000303@comcast.net> <4B983FFE.8040309@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4B984657.9090203@comcast.net>

Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
> << I drill 3/8 holes in... >>
>
> Just how HARD are Stop Signs to drill, Frank ???
Not stop signs, I use No Parking signs and only for glove boxes because 
the original cardboard ones need help after 40+ years.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From davriker at nwi.net  Wed Mar 10 19:00:33 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:00:33 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue
References: <e98d88091003100826q230da3ccn91836282d4f300ab@mail.gmail.com><9B6468175A504024AE319F9181A2E7C7@MAIN><B1A393338C8C4C2E8D8264D61D575E97@dell1>
	<201003101110182.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BDE1C58B862848A3B773219CCBECBFD5@MAIN>

I stand corrected, well, sitting down corrected.

David R.

My 1970 Torino has the original brake lines, as does my 63 Ford Falcon. 
Must be more resent chinese imported Ford parts ;)  I had to replace a 
clutch line on the MG, but I think that had to do with battery acid.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC CONTENT!! Taurus-Sable-Ford brake line issue


> On my 93 Nissan Quest, the Ford Windstar brake line parts rusted. The
> Nissan parts were fine.
>         Peter C
> ===
> At 12:45 PM 3/10/2010, Biff Jones wrote:
>>David,
>>
>>I cannot speak for the Tarus/Sable's but on my Bronco it was from the
>>outside in. Two brake lines rotted out just below the anti-lock unit and 
>>the
>>other two in the main rear line just behind the drivers door and the
>>crossover line to the rear passenger side. None of these were low points
>>where water could collect and rust from the inside out. Each of these 
>>lines
>>had sections 3 to 4"s long that were severely rusted on the outside while
>>the rest of the line was clean with just a road film on them. I forgot to
>>say in my original post that all my lines were only 9 years old when I had
>>to replace them. Since then I inspect them yearly. The replacement lines
>>(non Ford) are not showing the rusting the originals showed.
>>
>>Biff
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 19:15:38 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:15:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003100717x135513cfl1feb38b26515bbfb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88091003091335w284cad58gf451c442e43e3451@mail.gmail.com>
	<AE6C72E1-1DF9-4691-96FC-95D0503722BC@comcast.net>
	<e98d88091003100717x135513cfl1feb38b26515bbfb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef431003101815g4ef2cbd4p8ced55425f95d3bc@mail.gmail.com>

Brad,
It sure looks pretty solid. I know zero about these little trucks but I like
them & I would guess they are like our Spridgets but pick up version : )

Is the Conestoga cover the cover in the last photo and is that the current
owner when it was white?

Last question for all can we really make our little A series engines daily
drivers like this guy says? If so that's my goal.
http://www.brrta.org/brad

Lin

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>wrote:

> Well, I got some photos, it isn't pristine by any stretch, but it runs
> great
> and doesn't look bad. He even has the Conestoga cover
>  and most of the parts to fasten it all down that goes with it. I took 9
> photos of the truck, 1 of a photo of a truck with the cover on it, and a 15
> second quicktime file of the engine running. It accelerates quite well for
> a
> 948 single carb, but it feels like it would need Peter to give some
> attention to the shocks. I can send photos and video to interested parties
> BUT, he just called me, and is starting to have second thoughts about
> selling it. In order for him to put fresh paint on it, and purchase an
> interior kit, he is now thinking of selling his 67 Morris convertible. It
> has the 1098 in it, and he will be moving it out of the garage for photos
> later today, if the rain doesn't come in. He says he will be asking $2000
> for it.
> I told him that I could take photos and pass them around here, but I
> couldn't promise anything, since this isn't a Morris community.
> He may, or may not call me, to take photos.
> If you MIGHT be interested, please, let me know asap, and I'll call him
> back
> and tell him I have "X" number of folks waiting for photos. He was
> surprised
> that I already had several folks asking for the pictures of the truck.
> I guess the warmer weather is bringing out the British cars from the barns
> and sheds they are hiding in.
> IF my posting these finds is NOT appropriate, someone please say something,
> and I'll find another way to keep folks informed as the cars come out of
> the
> thaw.
> FWIW, I also went and checked out a 71 Midget. Body has a dent in the left
> door, left fender dented from where he backed his pickup into it with his
> tailgate down. A few small bubbles on the bottom of both A pillars, but
> lower hinge mounts are solid. Left rear lower wing rusted inside and out.
> Top frame broken, top rotted, but seats and floors not too bad. He says he
> has fuel up to the carbs, but it won't start without force feeding them.
> There are wires hanging back around the fuel pump, and out of the right
> side
> of engine compartment. Brake master is empty, so I have some concerns about
> the condition of braking system.
> The title is in the name of an owner that is a guest of our Texas prison
> system serving 3 life sentences (I guess not ALL Spridget owners are good
> people) but he claims that he can get that fixed. He is asking $4500 for
> it.
> I asked him to contact me after he has held it for a while. With the issues
> it has, and our Texas demographic, I just don't see him getting that kind
> of
> money.
> If it had a clear title, and was a running, driving, stopping car, it would
> be a different story, IMHO.
>
> Brad
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Well.. what did ya find out?
> >
> > Lester
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 19:22:00 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:22:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hemmings Sprite Article
In-Reply-To: <402188521003081403w7e7ef491p3c02a0d1cca8ebed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188521003081403w7e7ef491p3c02a0d1cca8ebed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef431003101822scda93acx911f26145f572983@mail.gmail.com>

David,
Is that on news stands this month or last?
Lin

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:03 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine this month...
> As was mentioned earlier, there is an article on a Sprite in Vermont
> with a Jaguar 3.8 in it. FrankenSprite (similar to the Fright of Colin
> Dodds).
>
> Satch Carlson's column is about the demise of Saab. I find his
> concluding paragraph very interesting... As far as he is concerned,
> Saab died when they put the name onto an Oldsmobile Bravada. Very good
> point.
>
> There is also an article about a father/son restoration of a Bugeye. A
> few items of confusion in there, such as the statement that they sent
> the body shell out for painting, etc and worked on the chassis while
> waiting for the shell to come back. Not quite sure how they pulled
> that one off ;-) Another paragraph talks about the car having had some
> kind of factory-installed padding in the boot that they had to
> laboriously scrape off. I don't recall seeing that in Horler; anyone
> know what they are talking about?
> David L
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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Wed Mar 10 20:42:46 2010
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:42:46 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Jim Johnson on his BMW
Message-ID: <3be73.2ea24a68.38c9c0b6@aol.com>

If driving his Midget, the entire contents would've been on the hangar  
floor.
 
Howard

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Wed Mar 10 20:47:45 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:47:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me
In-Reply-To: <205cef431003101815g4ef2cbd4p8ced55425f95d3bc@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <e98d88091003091335w284cad58gf451c442e43e3451@mail.gmail.com>
	<AE6C72E1-1DF9-4691-96FC-95D0503722BC@comcast.net>
	<e98d88091003100717x135513cfl1feb38b26515bbfb@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef431003101815g4ef2cbd4p8ced55425f95d3bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201003110347.o2B3lu1X012073@mail.usimperio.com>

Lin, I drive mine everyday. It's a 16 to 20 mile round trip for work 
and the wife and I go everywhere in it. Gets around 30 mpg with a 
1275 with ribcase and 4.11 rear. Still looking for a rear axle out of 
an another since the PO put one in out of something else, think it's 
out of an early triumph. Have a 3.9 I want to install for better 
hi-way travelling
http://69.69.34.130/morris/truck

As for morris pickups, there is a guy in Felton, Pa that has one in a 
garage. He's asking $9000. It's decent looking truck but the van 
caught my eye when I went there.
I have one pic of it. A parts store in VA was the previous owner and 
they used it for deliveries.
http://69.69.34.130/morris/pickup.jpg


Dave


At 09:15 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:
>Brad,
>It sure looks pretty solid. I know zero about these little trucks but I like
>them & I would guess they are like our Spridgets but pick up version : )
>
>Is the Conestoga cover the cover in the last photo and is that the current
>owner when it was white?
>
>Last question for all can we really make our little A series engines daily
>drivers like this guy says? If so that's my goal.
>http://www.brrta.org/brad

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Mar 10 21:07:57 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:07:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Drew?
In-Reply-To: <3be73.2ea24a68.38c9c0b6@aol.com>
References: <3be73.2ea24a68.38c9c0b6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <57C461A3C1AB44E597E552FEB10E4234@Home>

Is there a Drew from Friday Harbor, WA on this list?  If so, please contact 
me directly about your car.

Michael Rowe 

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Mar 10 21:32:00 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:32:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <57C461A3C1AB44E597E552FEB10E4234@Home>
References: <3be73.2ea24a68.38c9c0b6@aol.com>
	<57C461A3C1AB44E597E552FEB10E4234@Home>
Message-ID: <4B987240.4020202@justbrits.com>

list

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 06:24:34 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:24:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Jim Johnson on his BMW
In-Reply-To: <3be73.2ea24a68.38c9c0b6@aol.com>
References: <3be73.2ea24a68.38c9c0b6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <205cef431003110524m7e3aa904o36f56dbf7e3a5f93@mail.gmail.com>

Haha. Cool video.
Lin

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:42 PM, <Miniac7 at aol.com> wrote:

> If driving his Midget, the entire contents would've been on the hangar
> floor.
>
> Howard
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 08:02:06 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:02:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
Message-ID: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>

Ok folks, I have sent many of you photos of this truck mentioned in the
subject line. I have the Trade Fair show on, and he was just on there,
saying he would now take $4000 for the truck. If that makes it any more
attractive for you, hit me off list, and I'll give you the guys name and
cell number

Brad

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Mar 11 08:16:29 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 07:16:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

"I'll give you the guys name and cell number"

He's in jail?

jay

--- On Thu, 3/11/10, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
Ok folks, I have sent many of you photos of this truck mentioned in the
subject line. I have the Trade Fair show on, and he was just on there,
saying he would now take $4000 for the truck. If that makes it any more
attractive for you, hit me off list, and I'll give you the guys name and
cell number

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 08:27:04 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:27:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>

Nope, not him!! That is the 71 Midget owner that is doing the three life
sentences.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> "I'll give you the guys name and cell number"
>
> He's in jail?
>
> jay
>
> --- On Thu, 3/11/10, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok folks, I have sent many of you photos of this truck mentioned in the
> subject line. I have the Trade Fair show on, and he was just on there,
> saying he would now take $4000 for the truck. If that makes it any more
> attractive for you, hit me off list, and I'll give you the guys name and
> cell number
> _______________________________________________
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar 11 08:42:30 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:42:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com><351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <146D4F31C8D540A6B5E0AF55D181C8F8@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:27 AM
To: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
Cc: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck

Nope, not him!! That is the 71 Midget owner that is doing the three life
sentences.
================

Concurrent or consecutive?

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 08:45:35 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:45:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <146D4F31C8D540A6B5E0AF55D181C8F8@HomePC>
References: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<146D4F31C8D540A6B5E0AF55D181C8F8@HomePC>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003110745l589c4e80n385037fe219efd66@mail.gmail.com>

I dunno, but I figure the first one should be long enough that he won't be
working on his Spridget any time soon...

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:27 AM
> To: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
> Cc: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
>
> Nope, not him!! That is the 71 Midget owner that is doing the three life
> sentences.
> ================
>
> Concurrent or consecutive?
>
>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Mar 11 09:12:41 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:12:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003110745l589c4e80n385037fe219efd66@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<146D4F31C8D540A6B5E0AF55D181C8F8@HomePC>
	<e98d88091003110745l589c4e80n385037fe219efd66@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <318207.92243.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Doesn't a "life sentence" in the USA average out to be about 12 years??

 Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>

> I dunno, but I figure the first one should be long enough that he won't be
> working on his Spridget any time soon...

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Mar 11 09:28:26 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:28:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber pad
Message-ID: <F7D72C034AA24AE6B6CEB24ACF5D6D7E@Home>

My father used to shape copper sheet with hammers over a fairly heavy rubber pad.  I have been looking online for such a pad for shaping small curved patch pieces in sheet steel.  I have seen pictures of sandbags for this purpose, but am not able to find a suitable rubber pad.  Any suggestions?

Michael Rowe

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Mar 11 09:29:52 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:29:52 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <318207.92243.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>,
	<351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>,
	<146D4F31C8D540A6B5E0AF55D181C8F8@HomePC>,
	<e98d88091003110745l589c4e80n385037fe219efd66@mail.gmail.com>,
	<318207.92243.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W448ABDE7C46217618CFC9CB8320@phx.gbl>

What does a death sentence average out to?

RD



> Doesn't a "life sentence" in the USA average out to be about 12 years??
>
> Dave G.
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
>
> > I dunno, but I figure the first one should be long enough that he won't
be
> > working on his Spridget any time soon...

From heard at datatrontech.net  Thu Mar 11 09:42:49 2010
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:42:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber pad
In-Reply-To: <F7D72C034AA24AE6B6CEB24ACF5D6D7E@Home>
References: <F7D72C034AA24AE6B6CEB24ACF5D6D7E@Home>
Message-ID: <04c201cac139$e5c52680$b14f7380$@net>

Well, he doesn't have rubber ones but I've used these.

https://www.tinmantech.com/html/forming_bags.php

Heard

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:28 AM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber pad

My father used to shape copper sheet with hammers over a fairly heavy rubber
pad.  I have been looking online for such a pad for shaping small curved
patch pieces in sheet steel.  I have seen pictures of sandbags for this
purpose, but am not able to find a suitable rubber pad.  Any suggestions?

Michael Rowe
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 10:51:33 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:51:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W448ABDE7C46217618CFC9CB8320@phx.gbl>
References: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<146D4F31C8D540A6B5E0AF55D181C8F8@HomePC>
	<e98d88091003110745l589c4e80n385037fe219efd66@mail.gmail.com>
	<318207.92243.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<BAY112-W448ABDE7C46217618CFC9CB8320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b777e2be1003110951q77faea28ga3c3f4180af5003a@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:29 AM,  <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
What does a death sentence average out to?


In the U.S. the average time between sentencing and execution is 22 years!


-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Mar 11 11:49:32 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:49:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 7" mag wheels
Message-ID: <B3F9C94ACB284E92A1655BAD7E804D35@Home>

      Ebay Item :  

300405401642

      Vintage American Racing Magnesium Wheels Sprite Midget 
      7 x 13in Magnesium Racing wheels Libra for Bug Eye SCCA 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Mar 11 11:57:15 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:57:15 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] UNIVERSITY MOTORS RESTORED
In-Reply-To: <651667.43833.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <651667.43833.qm@web30303.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W3772DBCC64E86F93F5F659B8320@phx.gbl>

Forwarding from the Healey list ...

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )






> From: MG Toronto

> Subject: UNIVERSITY MOTORS RESTORED
> Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 12:14 PM
>
> FYI - Cut & Paste from the the MG Experience.
>
> UNIVERSITY MOTORS RESTORED
>
> John Twist
> Ada Michigan, USA Mar 09, 2010 07:32AM
>
> When, nearly one year ago, as the Michigan economy was collapsing and my
wife
> Caroline's health failing, we had no option but to cease fulltime business.
> During the following seven months I cared for Caroline as the cancer sapped
> her strength, but never her will. Spending increasingly greater time with
her
> at home, I simply could not attend to business. We sent notices to our
> customers thanking them for their years of support. We sent notices to our
> suppliers; we discharged our employees with severance; we had an auction to
> sell off shop equipment and MG memorabilia.
>
> Caroline died in January. As I pondered my future, I could not escape the
> undeniable fact: MG is my destiny. We are now re-awakening University
Motors.
>
> My son, Brooks, has taken his mother Caroline's place in the office, we
have
> two of our original mechanics back at work, and we are working to
> re-invigorate University Motors. We offer bench, line, and restoration
> services, as well as MG education via DVDs and technical seminars, on-site
and
> off-site. Our new website will be online soon. We are not yet at speed but
we
> are on the entrance ramp to full time business.
>
> Our old advertisements read: A lifelong dedication to the marque. That
> statement is as true today as it was when we first used it. Thanks to all
who
> have supported us through this very dismal and heartrending time. We hope
to
> be of service to you during your MG ownership.
>
> John Twist
> Brooks Twist
> University Motors Ltd

From neilandcustom at gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 12:24:27 2010
From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:24:27 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber pad
In-Reply-To: <F7D72C034AA24AE6B6CEB24ACF5D6D7E@Home>
References: <F7D72C034AA24AE6B6CEB24ACF5D6D7E@Home>
Message-ID: <000601cac150$7a810260$6f830720$@com>

Michael, 

Go to:  http://www.mcmaster.com/#rubber-sheets/=66a51p

This page has all kinds of rubber sheet and thicker pad material in many
lengths, widths, and thickness.  There is a durometer chart at the bottom to
help choose hardness.  

I teach metal smithing and we use leather bags filled with shot and sand to
form copper and other metals. Just make sure they aren't filled too full or
they have no give.

Neil Anderson 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:28 AM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber pad

My father used to shape copper sheet with hammers over a fairly heavy rubber
pad.  I have been looking online for such a pad for shaping small curved
patch pieces in sheet steel.  I have seen pictures of sandbags for this
purpose, but am not able to find a suitable rubber pad.  Any suggestions?

Michael Rowe
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar 11 15:54:12 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:54:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me
In-Reply-To: <201003110347.o2B3lu1X012073@mail.usimperio.com>
References: <e98d88091003091335w284cad58gf451c442e43e3451@mail.gmail.com><AE6C72E1-1DF9-4691-96FC-95D0503722BC@comcast.net><e98d88091003100717x135513cfl1feb38b26515bbfb@mail.gmail.com><205cef431003101815g4ef2cbd4p8ced55425f95d3bc@mail.gmail.com>
	<201003110347.o2B3lu1X012073@mail.usimperio.com>
Message-ID: <E86C97F22C0A44FE8ED92BD3CD62C96A@HomePC>

Dave Yealy, I want your truck!

It's a beaut, Dave.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave Yealy" <lbc at littlebitcountry.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:47 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Minor Truck FS locally to me

Lin, I drive mine everyday. It's a 16 to 20 mile round trip for work
and the wife and I go everywhere in it. Gets around 30 mpg with a
1275 with ribcase and 4.11 rear. Still looking for a rear axle out of
an another since the PO put one in out of something else, think it's
out of an early triumph. Have a 3.9 I want to install for better
hi-way travelling
http://69.69.34.130/morris/truck

As for morris pickups, there is a guy in Felton, Pa that has one in a
garage. He's asking $9000. It's decent looking truck but the van
caught my eye when I went there.
I have one pic of it. A parts store in VA was the previous owner and
they used it for deliveries.
http://69.69.34.130/morris/pickup.jpg


Dave


At 09:15 PM 3/10/2010, you wrote:
>Brad,
>It sure looks pretty solid. I know zero about these little trucks but I 
>like
>them & I would guess they are like our Spridgets but pick up version : )
>
>Is the Conestoga cover the cover in the last photo and is that the current
>owner when it was white?
>
>Last question for all can we really make our little A series engines daily
>drivers like this guy says? If so that's my goal.
>http://www.brrta.org/brad
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 16:11:12 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:11:12 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>
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You can't say "Midget".  Not PC

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nope, not him!! That is the 71 Midget owner that is doing the three life
> sentences.

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar 11 16:14:33 2010
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:14:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1268334002.8489.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15.1268334002.8489.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4B997959.20208@sbcglobal.net>

OK, I know this has been covered before, but I have a new question.
The fire extinguisher in the Midget needs to be replaced. It is a 
1A-10BC and has lost its charge. The cost of a recharge is probably 
about what a new one would cost. While shopping around I found a new 
product at Costco. It is the First Alert Tundra. A two-pack was only 
$20. 
<http://www.firstalert.com/fire-extinguishing/TUNDRA-SPRAY/TUNDRA-FIRE-EXTINGUISHING-SPRAY/TUNDRA>

It contains no ABC rating, but the package says to keep one in cars. It 
supposedly last longer than traditional extinguishers of similar size 
and it leaves no damaging residue. One downside is that it can freeze.

Any thoughts or opinions?

Lee

PS: I'm picking up a 1966 Midget parts car tomorrow. It has a 1098 and 
wires. Anyone need anything special? I'm in St. Louis.

From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Mar 11 17:04:49 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 00:04:49 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers
References: <mailman.15.1268334002.8489.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4B997959.20208@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <11F9779E60F64782A157ACA4AC1814EF@user8634b3d69b>

Can anyone provide a pointer to an independent comparison of this stuff? 
The manufacturers claim it is good but so do snake oil makers.   Everything 
read on other sites just repeats the advertising blurb.
However, more or less any liquid system beats a powder for carrying around 
in a vehicle in my book.  Vehicle vibrations compact and solidify a powder, 
they need constant attention.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lee Fox" <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:14 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers


> OK, I know this has been covered before, but I have a new question.
> The fire extinguisher in the Midget needs to be replaced. It is a 1A-10BC 
> and has lost its charge. The cost of a recharge is probably about what a 
> new one would cost. While shopping around I found a new product at Costco. 
> It is the First Alert Tundra. A two-pack was only $20. 
> <http://www.firstalert.com/fire-extinguishing/TUNDRA-SPRAY/TUNDRA-FIRE-EXTINGUISHING-SPRAY/TUNDRA>
>
> It contains no ABC rating, but the package says to keep one in cars. It 
> supposedly last longer than traditional extinguishers of similar size and 
> it leaves no damaging residue. One downside is that it can freeze.
>
> Any thoughts or opinions?
>
> Lee
>
> PS: I'm picking up a 1966 Midget parts car tomorrow. It has a 1098 and 
> wires. Anyone need anything special? I'm in St. Louis.
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Mar 11 17:46:56 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:46:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers
In-Reply-To: <4B997959.20208@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.15.1268334002.8489.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4B997959.20208@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <568567.67398.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Lee,

Section 8 of its' MSDS suggests gloves, goggles, overhauls, etc... for using tis product.
Also suggests not to don any contaminated clothing!
IMHO an A-B-C extinguisher would be safer.

 Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Lee Fox <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net>
 
> It contains no ABC rating, but the package says to keep one in cars. It 
> supposedly last longer than traditional extinguishers of similar size and it 
> leaves no damaging residue. One downside is that it can freeze.
> 
> Any thoughts or opinions?

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Thu Mar 11 18:02:55 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:02:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b11003111511i7e32888fkbaf99ec268bde79@mail.gmail.com
  >
References: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b11003111511i7e32888fkbaf99ec268bde79@mail.gmail.com>
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Vertically challenged would be PC


At 06:11 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote:
>You can't say "Midget".  Not PC
>
>On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Nope, not him!! That is the 71 Midget owner that is doing the three life
> > sentences.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 11 18:05:59 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:05:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers
In-Reply-To: <4B997959.20208@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <26992.43347.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It has a plastic nozzle which would melt in a fire. Buy a real one for a few
bucks more.

--- On Thu, 3/11/10, Lee Fox <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
From: Lee Fox <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Fire
Extinguishers
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010,
5:14 PM
> OK, I know this has been covered
> before, but I have a new
question.
> The fire extinguisher in the Midget needs to be replaced.
> It is
a 1A-10BC and has lost its charge. The cost of a
> recharge is probably about
what a new one would cost. While
> shopping around I found a new product at
Costco. It is the
> First Alert Tundra. A two-pack was only $20.
<http://www.firstalert.com/fire-extinguishing/TUNDRA-SPRAY/TUNDRA-FIRE-EXTING
UISHING-SPRAY/TUNDRA>
> 
> It contains no ABC rating, but the package says to
keep one
> in cars. It supposedly last longer than traditional
> extinguishers
of similar size and it leaves no damaging
> residue. One downside is that it
can freeze.
> 
> Any thoughts or opinions?
> 
> Lee
> 
> PS: I'm picking up a
1966 Midget parts car tomorrow. It has
> a 1098 and wires. Anyone need
anything special? I'm in St.
> Louis.
>
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Mar 11 19:45:39 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:45:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget needs home
References: <A1991C23001869489CAD637F30510B6B169A0F35A8@WMA-EX.wma.com>
Message-ID: <E58A3E0E-2112-46CE-8E52-A19A0E5CA002@phillymgclub.com>

NFI!!

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Kevin Domrzalski <KevinD at warminsterauthority.com>
> Date: March 9, 2010 12:47:46 PM EST
> To: 'Larry Macy' <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
> Subject: RE: [nuffieldnews] March NuffieldNews
>
> Hi Larry,
> We meet last year , I have a 74 MG Midget that the engine  caught on fire.
> I sold a lot of parts off it. I still have the body and some parts. I need
to get it out of my garage by next week 3/13/10. I hate to take it to a junk
yard. If any one in your club would it they can have it.
> Please give me a call 215-384-3472 if anyone would like it. I have a title
for it also. The car is in Warminster PA. 18974.
>
> Kevin D
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Macy [mailto:lmacy at phillymgclub.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:17 AM
> To: Larry Macy
> Cc: nuffieldnews at phillymgclub.com
> Subject: Re: [nuffieldnews] March NuffieldNews
>
> Not sure why, but there are no pics in the small version on my iPhone.
> They are there in the large version.
>
> Larry
>
> Larry Macy, Ph.D
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> "I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating with
> people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin
>
> Sent via iPhone
>
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:08, Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com> wrote:
>
>> Large version
http://phillymgclub.com/newsletters/2010/Mar2010NuffieldNews.pdf
>>
>> Small version
>> http://phillymgclub.com/newsletters/2010/Mar2010NuffieldNews.sm.pdf
>>
>>
>> Larry Macy, Ph.D
>> 78 Midget
>>
>> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>>
>> "I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating
>> with people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin
>>
>> Sent via iPhone
>>
>> --
>> Welcome To Nuffield News E-Version
>> This is an announcement of the monthlyPhiladelphia MG Club Newsletter
>>
>> Let's see how it works.
>>
>
> --
> Welcome To Nuffield News E-Version
> This is an announcement of the monthly
> Philadelphia MG Club Newsletter
>
> Let's see how it works.
>
>
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Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Mar 11 19:48:36 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:48:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Philly_MG_Club] FW: University Motors is back!!!
References: <BAY116-W187C60E14E46B6342AF7A0DB330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <778A63CE-AECD-4ADD-8A3E-69F9EDA907C6@phillymgclub.com>

Dunno if anyone heard this yet.

Larry
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 16:22:14 -0600
> Subject: University Motors is back!!!
> From: distributorguy at gmail.com
> To: zmagnette at mgcars.org.uk
>
> Here is a post from the MG Experience this morning:
>
>
>
> When, nearly one year ago, as the Michigan economy was collapsing and my
wife Caroline's health failing, we had no option but to cease fulltime
business. During the following seven months I cared for Caroline as the cancer
sapped her strength, but never her will. Spending increasingly greater time
with her at home, I simply could not attend to business.
> We sent notices to our customers thanking them for their years of support.
We sent notices to our suppliers; we discharged our employees with severance;
we had an auction to sell off shop equipment and MG memorabilia.
> Caroline died in January. As I pondered my future, I could not escape the
undeniable fact: MG is my destiny. We are now re-awakening University Motors.
>
> My son, Brooks, has taken his mother Caroline's place in the office, we have
two of our original mechanics back at work, and we are working to
re-invigorate University Motors. We offer bench, line, and restoration
services, as well as MG education via DVDs and technical seminars, on-site and
off-site. Our new website will be online soon. We are not yet at speed but we
are on the entrance ramp to full time business.
>
> Our old advertisements read: A lifelong dedication to the marque. That
statement is as true today as it was when we first used it. Thanks to all who
have supported us through this very dismal and heartrending time. We hope to
be of service to you during your MG ownership.
>
> John Twist
> Brooks Twist
> University Motors Ltd
>
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Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by
the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened.
But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

Friedrich Nietzsche

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Mar 11 20:10:22 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:10:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers
In-Reply-To: <26992.43347.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <26992.43347.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B99B09E.2040900@justbrits.com>

<< It has a plastic nozzle which would melt in a fire. Buy a real
one for a few bucks more. >>

What Ron says in SPADES, Lee !!!!

And what others have said, ABC rated only.

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Mar 11 20:15:15 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:15:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers
In-Reply-To: <4B997959.20208@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.15.1268334002.8489.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4B997959.20208@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4B99B1C3.5030108@justbrits.com>

<< ...Costco. It is the First Alert... >>

Lee, go back and look at "Marine1" unit.

Ed

From gmajewski at wi.rr.com  Thu Mar 11 20:17:05 2010
From: gmajewski at wi.rr.com (gary majewski)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:17:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
Message-ID: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>

O wise group,


	Guess that it is time to come out of lurking and get some questions answered.
My'59 BE is in need of a radiator change
this year. Either I take it in and the core replaced or get one that was up in
offer on this list. The aluminum one of special
creation. What has become of this item? I have not been able to follow this
list for I have been in and out of the hospital
quite a bit this year.


	Second, I need to have a proper thermostat to put in the engine. It cannot
have the domed piece like the newer ones
have. Maybe there is a special housing cover to replace the existing one to
allow the use of the " domed"shaped ones?
Moss and VickyBrit don't seem to carry the correct one. Keep getting the ones
for the newer cars although the correct is
shown. Called both after ordering the correct one pictured, but both
thermostats have same order number. Any ideas?
I have contacted Moss, UK, and requested further information.

	Would like to do business with locals as we all would, any ideas of whom to
contact? Being in Wisconsin, just having
a blanking sleeve doesn't help the situation this time of the year.  Waiting
for your wisdom.  Thanks for your time and trouble.



							Gary

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Mar 11 20:30:06 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:30:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers
In-Reply-To: <4B99B1C3.5030108@justbrits.com>
References: <mailman.15.1268334002.8489.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4B997959.20208@sbcglobal.net> <4B99B1C3.5030108@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4B99B53E.6050608@comcast.net>

And while putting things back on my Sprite after the paint job, I 
noticed my Halon fire extinguisher is off charge.
So I need to get one too.
Why do they discontinue all the good stuff?
R-12, Halon, DDT, alcohol based brake cleaner,
English made Lucas stuff, English chrome, American steel, REAL power 
tools, rotary phones, 8 track tapes :)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Mar 11 20:39:20 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:39:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers
In-Reply-To: <4B99B53E.6050608@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.15.1268334002.8489.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4B997959.20208@sbcglobal.net> <4B99B1C3.5030108@justbrits.com>
	<4B99B53E.6050608@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4B99B768.6080904@justbrits.com>

<< Why do they discontinue all the good stuff? >>

You left out reel-to-reel tape decks, Frank !!

<G> !

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Mar 11 21:04:32 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:04:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
References: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <2EA62AC30D0E43DFAEEBAC6C64BDB6BA@blackbox2>

Gary, the modern aluminum radiator is from Wizard Cooling.  
Here is the ebay store 
http://stores.ebay.com/Wizard-Cooling

The bugeye radiator will cost $499 ... ouch.
http://tinyurl.com/yjp9l44

Not sure about the thermostat issue, curious as to what you find out.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 11 21:28:55 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:28:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 12" Trailer Wheel vs Spridget Wheel
Message-ID: <5f00d9911003112028m6f3fd0bdv77345165e00e1bff@mail.gmail.com>

I picked up a cheap Horrible Fright trailer to drag my generator home.
 It didn't come with a spare tire/wheel.  Does anyone know if a
Spridget wheel will fit the 4 lug trailer PCD?
TIA.
Cheers,
Derf

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Mar 11 21:51:41 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:51:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
References: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <78822153C29B46C9B00F6BF8865F5A38@leovs802bt6yj7>

    I was going to post this tomorrow as I finally got in estimates from all 
the various suppliers I contacted in trying to find the lowest price I could 
on an aluminum radiator that is patterned after the bugeye's radiator.  I 
contacted Griffin, Davies racing and some others and here is the general 
consensus from them and the best overall deal.  Basically the radiator is 
very labor intensive in the fabrication of the neck and the surround.  Some 
were able to put the ridges in the top of the tank and some were not. 
Quality and workmanship was also a criteria.  All quotes were based on a 
minimum of 20 radiators.  The best quote I got was for $460.00 from  a 
company in England but with customs and brokers fee the final tab is around 
$500.00 ea.  The cost of the same radiator if bought without the volume is 
651.00.   It really is a work of art and I will get pictures posted tomorrow 
on line so it can be viewed.  I have seen their radiator in person and is 
really impressive.      A company in Australia sells a comparable radiator 
and their list price is $1000.00 which to me is WAYYYYY out of line.  Ron 
Davies racing sells a radiator for 650.00 and there is a 10.00 per unit 
break if buying 20....Sooo...Is there enough people interested in spending 
approx. $500.00 for an aluminum radiator to satisfy the 20 unit order? 
Radiators will be shipped direct to your door by the broker. All orders have 
to paid for in advance and after I find out f the interest is there I can 
get a delivery / mfg timeline.  I am not making a dime on this and the 
shipping will be done by the broker I have to go through to get them.  My 
part in all of this will be to get the money assembled all in one place to 
make the payment to the broker.  Or if someone else want to act as the money 
changer if there is enough interest then more power to them.  Soooooo... 
speak up if interested.  Put radiator in the subject line.


Leo 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Mar 11 22:46:32 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:46:32 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
In-Reply-To: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>
References: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <1010418572.20100311214632@pacifier.com>

Hello gary,

     When it was time to replace or repair mine, I went to a local
     (VERY REPUTABLE) shop. I asked how much to have it re-cored. It
     was $10 more than to get a replacement from the Usual Suspects,
     so I had done by the local guys. They did it better than new!
     I've been stuck in near gridlock on a  98 degree summer day and
     not had it go above 205 degrees. If you have a GOOD local shop,
     that's the way to go..

     My 2 cents.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Be alert, America needs more lerts.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Mar 11 23:25:07 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:25:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
References: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>
	<1010418572.20100311214632@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <9020E0EB1BEB4AD382ECF17340041E49@blackbox2>

I sent mine to a local shop and had them solder some dents and give it a flush.
I then did the rest of the work myself.  See here.  http://tinyurl.com/dg9hmw

When I installed it on the car I noticed two leaks.  One of the vertical tubes
was corroded through.

I ended up isolating the offending tube by drilling a small hole at the top and at the 
bottom.  I then injected epoxy into each of the holes I had drilled.

Worked out OK.  Knock on wood.
Past my bedtime...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "gary majewski" <gmajewski at wi.rr.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators


> Hello gary,
> 
>     When it was time to replace or repair mine, I went to a local
>     (VERY REPUTABLE) shop. I asked how much to have it re-cored. It
>     was $10 more than to get a replacement from the Usual Suspects,
>     so I had done by the local guys. They did it better than new!
>     I've been stuck in near gridlock on a  98 degree summer day and
>     not had it go above 205 degrees. If you have a GOOD local shop,
>     that's the way to go..
> 
>     My 2 cents.
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> 
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
> 
>  Be alert, America needs more lerts.
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 12 05:24:54 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:24:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: thermostats and
 radiators
References: <FCA99D04E074429FA80F817D127750E4@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <39907F3538D84E0EA49575B022E61D26@leovs802bt6yj7>

I received a question concerning the shipping and handling so here is the
answer.  That price included the shipping and handling to your door.  The
actual quote was 451.00 from the mfg and the broker figured the shipping and
custom fees in which brings it to the 500.00 price.  Cant avoid customs with
30 of them.

Leo

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar 12 05:37:19 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:37:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
In-Reply-To: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>
References: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>
Message-ID: <958A201B34FF45D59795DFF68E6C689B@HomePC>

Gary, get in touch with Peter Caldwell at World Wide Import Auto Parts in 
Madison.

http://www.nosimport.com/   608-223-9400

Peter has a wealth of knowledge about parts for your car.

Where in Wisconsin are you?

Larry Daniels, Oshkosh




--------------------------------------------------
From: "gary majewski" <gmajewski at wi.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:17 PM
To: "spridgets spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators

O wise group,


Guess that it is time to come out of lurking and get some questions 
answered.
My'59 BE is in need of a radiator change
this year. Either I take it in and the core replaced or get one that was up 
in
offer on this list. The aluminum one of special
creation. What has become of this item? I have not been able to follow this
list for I have been in and out of the hospital
quite a bit this year.


Second, I need to have a proper thermostat to put in the engine. It cannot
have the domed piece like the newer ones
have. Maybe there is a special housing cover to replace the existing one to
allow the use of the " domed"shaped ones?
Moss and VickyBrit don't seem to carry the correct one. Keep getting the 
ones
for the newer cars although the correct is
shown. Called both after ordering the correct one pictured, but both
thermostats have same order number. Any ideas?
I have contacted Moss, UK, and requested further information.

Would like to do business with locals as we all would, any ideas of whom to
contact? Being in Wisconsin, just having
a blanking sleeve doesn't help the situation this time of the year.  Waiting
for your wisdom.  Thanks for your time and trouble.



Gary
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 12 05:58:16 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:58:16 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
In-Reply-To: <78822153C29B46C9B00F6BF8865F5A38@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <872552.35231.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bummer. I can vouch for Ron Davis' Bugeye clone radiator being a functional
work of art if you must have Alumin(i)um. 

Gary, where are you in WI?

--- On
Thu, 3/11/10, Leo S <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> From: Leo S
<60bugeye at cebridge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
>
To: "gary majewski" <gmajewski at wi.rr.com>, "spridgets spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 10:51 PM
>    I
was going to post
> this tomorrow as I finally got in estimates from all the
>
various suppliers I contacted in trying to find the lowest
> price I could on
an aluminum radiator that is patterned
> after the bugeye's radiator.  I
contacted Griffin,
> Davies racing and some others and here is the general
>
consensus from them and the best overall deal. 
> Basically the radiator is
very labor intensive in the
> fabrication of the neck and the surround.  Some
were
> able to put the ridges in the top of the tank and some were
> not.
Quality and workmanship was also a criteria.  All
> quotes were based on a
minimum of 20 radiators.  The
> best quote I got was for $460.00 from  a
company in
> England but with customs and brokers fee the final tab is
>
around $500.00 ea.  The cost of the same radiator if
> bought without the
volume is 651.00.   It
> really is a work of art and I will get pictures
posted
> tomorrow on line so it can be viewed.  I have seen
> their radiator
in person and is really impressive. 
>     A company in Australia sells a
comparable
> radiator and their list price is $1000.00 which to me is
>
WAYYYYY out of line.  Ron Davies racing sells a
> radiator for 650.00 and
there is a 10.00 per unit break if
> buying 20....Sooo...Is there enough
people interested in
> spending approx. $500.00 for an aluminum radiator to
satisfy
> the 20 unit order? Radiators will be shipped direct to your
> door
by the broker. All orders have to paid for in advance
> and after I find out f
the interest is there I can get a
> delivery / mfg timeline.  I am not making
a dime on
> this and the shipping will be done by the broker I have to
> go
through to get them.  My part in all of this will be
> to get the money
assembled all in one place to make the
> payment to the broker.  Or if someone
else want to act
> as the money changer if there is enough interest then more
> power to them.  Soooooo... speak up if
> interested.  Put radiator in the
subject line.
> 
> 
> Leo _______________________________________________
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Mar 12 06:10:47 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 08:10:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Virtual Trip to England
Message-ID: <87d24a$7vm6m9@email.mtu.edu>

If the roads are still to salty to take your LBC out, here's an 
off-driving season activity to fill some time. Take a virtual trip to 
England via Google Streets. I spent time last night looking up LBC 
related sites of interest using Google Streets. It's interesting see 
some of the sites I've only read about. For a first search, try this location.

<http://maps.google.com/maps/place?cid=4474074456662098881&q=donald+healey&hl=en&cd=1&cad=src:pplink&ei=wcGZS-DGCIuOygTQuNDMAQ&sig2=lgutyS4WL4MwYGXCedYREQ>Modern 
Motoring
[]
[]

240-244 Torquay Road, Paignton, TQ3 2HB, United Kingdom - 01803 522 828

The buildings are so close to the streets in England that you can see 
right into the stores. Take a look at the cars in the windows at 
Modern Motoring and see if you can identify them all. I found a few 
bakerys on Fore Street in Redruth that looked good too!! I hope to 
find the church that has the stained glass window that is a tribute 
to Donald Healey. May go for a virtual visit to 
WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com's home too! LOL.

Until I can actually take a trip to England, Google will have to do.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Mar 12 07:49:42 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:49:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <201003120103.o2C139Cg019511@mail.usimperio.com>
References: <e98d88091003110702s496a09a1ode3576edb9bd70fb@mail.gmail.com>,
	<351034.20676.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<e98d88091003110727w2a247231i435b81850570cb3@mail.gmail.com>,
	<2ad6c6b11003111511i7e32888fkbaf99ec268bde79@mail.gmail.com>,
	<201003120103.o2C139Cg019511@mail.usimperio.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W283B4972CCC591B9719C89B8310@phx.gbl>

Would that also be the same on a Mac?

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
( Okay, ... I'll go hide again! )




> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:02:55 -0500
> From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com
>
> Vertically challenged would be PC
>
> At 06:11 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote:
> >You can't say "Midget". Not PC
> >
> >On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > Nope, not him!! That is the 71 Midget owner that is doing the three
life
> > > sentences.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Mar 12 10:31:39 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:31:39 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W283B4972CCC591B9719C89B8310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <753502151.9554811268415099319.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

okay am I missing something? Is there a midget driver who is serving 3 life sentences? what did he do? 
Ryan 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca 
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:49:42 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck 

Would that also be the same on a Mac? 

Robert Duquette 
Ottawa ON Canada 
( Okay, ... I'll go hide again! ) 




> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:02:55 -0500 
> From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com 
> 
> Vertically challenged would be PC 
> 
> At 06:11 PM 3/11/2010, you wrote: 
> >You can't say "Midget". Not PC 
> > 
> >On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> 
wrote: 
> > 
> > > Nope, not him!! That is the 71 Midget owner that is doing the three 
life 
> > > sentences. 
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Mar 12 10:40:25 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:40:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <753502151.9554811268415099319.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westch
	ester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <BAY112-W283B4972CCC591B9719C89B8310@phx.gbl>
	<753502151.9554811268415099319.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <201003120940861.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 11:31 AM 3/12/2010, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
>okay am I missing something? Is there a midget driver who is serving 
>3 life sentences? what did he do?
>Ryan
==============
Parked in a "<--Parking for Corvettes Only-->"  spot.

Just guessin' 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 12 10:44:15 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:44:15 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Fire Extinguishers
Message-ID: <91a43.4ddad15.38cbd76f@aol.com>

I don't know what an ABC rating is.  My recommendation would be to  
purchase one that is sanctioned for use in motorsports.  Do Sfi sanction  fireX for 
motorsports?
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 11/03/2010 23:14:57 GMT Standard Time,  
lee.fox at sbcglobal.net writes:

OK, I  know this has been covered before, but I have a new question.
The fire  extinguisher in the Midget needs to be replaced. It is a 
1A-10BC and has  lost its charge. The cost of a recharge is probably 
about what a new one  would cost. While shopping around I found a new 
product at Costco. It is  the First Alert Tundra. A two-pack was only 
$20.  
<http://www.firstalert.com/fire-extinguishing/TUNDRA-SPRAY/TUNDRA-FIRE-EXTIN
GUISHING-SPRAY/TUNDRA>

It  contains no ABC rating, but the package says to keep one in cars. It  
supposedly last longer than traditional extinguishers of similar size  
and it leaves no damaging residue. One downside is that it can  freeze.

Any thoughts or opinions?

Lee

PS: I'm picking up  a 1966 Midget parts car tomorrow. It has a 1098 and 
wires. Anyone need  anything special? I'm in St. Louis.

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 12 10:51:16 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:51:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] radiator photos
References: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>
	<78822153C29B46C9B00F6BF8865F5A38@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <C032DE8F87E34496AFFC5C5E8A4D7007@leovs802bt6yj7>

Here are pictures of their radiators.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ldsp2006/Lotus#

Leo

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 12 10:55:34 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:55:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1967 Morris Truck
References: <753502151.9554811268415099319.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <01ECAC90A43C4941836176347BF61AB9@leovs802bt6yj7>

<<<<am I missing something? Is there a midget driver who is serving 3 life 
sentences? what did he do?
Ryan >>>>>

Murder''' He cut up and disposed of the bodies of three "Midgets".  The 
authorities are currently looking for Franks as a serial murderer :)

Leo 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 12 11:10:18 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:10:18 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: thermostats and
 radiators
Message-ID: <581b.6dccc565.38cbdd8a@aol.com>

If you are going to have a batch of radiators made have you considered if  
you want to use the later short neck that opens up the choice of radiators  
caps?  Also have you contacted Tom Colby at Speedwell?
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza
 
 
In a message dated 12/03/2010 12:25:20 GMT Standard Time,  
60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:


Leo

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Mar 12 11:12:38 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:12:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] radiator photos
In-Reply-To: <C032DE8F87E34496AFFC5C5E8A4D7007@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <243846.76172.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Are these photos of the radiator you are offering on the group buy?

jay

--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Leo S <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

Here are pictures of their radiators.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ldsp2006/Lotus#

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 12 11:12:40 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:12:40 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
Message-ID: <5ad3.d468365.38cbde18@aol.com>

It's a big weight saving high up and at the front of the car.  Also,  in 
case anyone hadn't realised, modern cores in an alloy rad will be much more  
efficient than having a like for like replacement or repair using a copper 
core  (unless you have a non-stock copper core which isn't like for like).
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 12/03/2010 12:58:22 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com 
 writes:

if you  must have Alumin(i)um. 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 12 11:15:44 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:15:44 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiators and hose
Message-ID: <5e68.2384f6da.38cbded0@aol.com>

With all those fancy radiators you'd think someone would rush me for the  
only ORANGE silicone downflow rad waterpump hose in the world.  
 
Weslake-Monza 1330

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 12 11:33:21 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:33:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: thermostats and
 radiators
References: <581b.6dccc565.38cbdd8a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C89CF821A27344EE9A02E8457CF0AE61@leovs802bt6yj7>

I can inquire about that.  What I don't want to do is to open up a bunch of
options which complicate the process.  If the short neck is more suited would
you send me a reply as to the merits so I can communicate that to the mfg.

Thanks
Leo

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Mar 12 11:49:56 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:49:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator question.
Message-ID: <776462.49125.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Looking at my '65 Sprite...
The temp sensor is plugged into the head. 
There is also a blanking plug in the radiator where they used to go.
I've tried researching in my books but can't seem to find the answer to this question.
Why the change from the radiator to the head??

 I would have thought less vibrational stress on the capillary from using the radiator position.
Is there that much difference in temp measurement over that 12" difference in the water flow?

Dave G.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 12:06:19 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:06:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator question.
In-Reply-To: <776462.49125.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <776462.49125.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003121106h51271e88x3ef35c4266af4da4@mail.gmail.com>

> Why the change from the radiator to the head??
>  I would have thought less vibrational stress on the capillary from using
the radiator position.
> Is there that much difference in temp measurement over that 12" difference
in the water flow?

In the head, it is measuring the temperature of the water in the
engine, whether the thermostat has opened or not.
In the radiator, it is not measuring anything useful until the thermostat
opens.
David L

From conen at bellsouth.net  Fri Mar 12 12:06:40 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:06:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] was 1967 Morris Truck
Message-ID: <253517.32910.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

<<<<am I missing something? Is there a midget driver who is serving 3 life
sentences? what did he do?
Ryan >>>>>
per Leo...
>>Murder''' He cut up and disposed of the bodies of three "Midgets".  The
>>authorities are currently looking for Franks as a serial murderer :)

Isn't that closer to vivisection?  
And to think, it all started with a chicken de-beaker from ebay...
  Ed in NC ;-)-

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Mar 12 12:07:14 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:07:14 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] radiator photos
In-Reply-To: <243846.76172.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <515356.19381.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Part II - In which the reason for the original (unanswered) question is revealed.

Because if it is, I don't see the cosmetic advantage over the other aluminum ones already available. The one in these pictures would never pass for an original. (Yes I am saying that considering that it would be painted black.)

jay

--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] radiator photos
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 1:12 PM

Are these photos of the radiator you are offering on the group buy?

jay

--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Leo S <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

Here are pictures of their radiators.

http://picasaweb.google.com/ldsp2006/Lotus#

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 12 12:08:27 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:08:27 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator question.
Message-ID: <bc014.53634d9f.38cbeb2b@aol.com>

An older lister might have a better guess ......
 
The crossflow rad doesn't lend itself to a temp fitting and would have  
increased the cost of having the rad made.  The head already had provison  for 
a sender that had to be blanked off.  So extra money to fit a sensor  and 
extra money to blank off a place where a sensor could go.  Think other  
A-series engines, other models.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 12/03/2010 18:53:33 GMT Standard Time, kk7ss at verizon.net 
 writes:

The temp  sensor is plugged into the head. 
There is also a blanking plug in the  radiator where they used to go.
I've tried researching in my books but  can't seem to find the answer to 
this question.
Why the change from the  radiator to the head??

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 12 12:11:47 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:11:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: thermostats and
 radiators
In-Reply-To: <581b.6dccc565.38cbdd8a@aol.com>
Message-ID: <991142.59866.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 3/12/10, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
wrote:
> caps?  Also have you contacted Tom Colby at
> Speedwell?

His are marked with Ron Davis's name when you look closely.

Ron

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 12 12:17:36 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:17:36 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
Message-ID: <bcb16.a800de1.38cbed50@aol.com>

Hi Gary,
 
If you wanted a domed thermostat housing you either make a one-off by  
cutting the top of a different housing, cutting and discarding the top from the  
Bugeye housing and welding to create a hybrid.  Or if someone made a  
pattern (rapid prototype) and send it to me I could have my local foundary cast  
a bunch of them.
 
In fact my local foundary will pretty much cast a bunch of anything given a 
 pattern.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 12/03/2010 03:22:31 GMT Standard Time,  
gmajewski at wi.rr.com writes:

Second,  I need to have a proper thermostat to put in the engine. It cannot
have the  domed piece like the newer ones
have. Maybe there is a special housing  cover to replace the existing one to
allow the use of the " domed"shaped  ones?
Moss and VickyBrit don't seem to carry the correct one. Keep getting  the 
ones
for the newer cars although the correct is
shown. Called both  after ordering the correct one pictured, but both
thermostats have same  order number. Any ideas?
I have contacted Moss, UK, and requested further  information.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 12 12:22:07 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:22:07 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: thermostats and
 radiators
Message-ID: <bd096.6b6b7f4d.38cbee5f@aol.com>

I think they are nicer than the Wizard radiators.  I think Tom's/Ron  
Davis's does use the short neck so you can fit racing/higher pressure rad caps -  
I guess the info is in a book someplace...
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 12/03/2010 19:11:49 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com 
 writes:

His are  marked with Ron Davis's name when you look  closely.

Ron

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 12 12:23:17 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:23:17 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] was 1967 Morris Truck
Message-ID: <bd1ed.2505f6d.38cbeea5@aol.com>

And that's a few years back, almost Montana Bob 'stop the madness'  era.  
Anyone care to repost those threads?
 
In a message dated 12/03/2010 19:13:06 GMT Standard Time,  
conen at bellsouth.net writes:

And to  think, it all started with a chicken de-beaker from ebay...
Ed in NC  ;-)-

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 12 12:25:20 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:25:20 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Virtual Trip to England
Message-ID: <bd466.3f89e2f6.38cbef20@aol.com>

I read in our local newspaper they are coming to my town soon.  On  Google 
maps/multimap/streemap you can see my daughter's blue paddling pool in  the 
garden.  CV10 7BJ
 
In a message dated 12/03/2010 13:11:09 GMT Standard Time, thcollin at mtu.edu  
writes:

May go  for a virtual visit to 
WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com's home too!  LOL.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Mar 12 12:36:37 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:36:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: thermostats and
 radiators
In-Reply-To: <bd096.6b6b7f4d.38cbee5f@aol.com>
References: <bd096.6b6b7f4d.38cbee5f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W335E124BA21F3C4DAC7043B8310@phx.gbl>

You guess!?  You mean you don't know?

Robert


> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> I think they are nicer than the Wizard radiators. I think Tom's/Ron
> Davis's does use the short neck so you can fit racing/higher pressure rad
caps -
> I guess the info is in a book someplace...
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
> In a message dated 12/03/2010 19:11:49 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com
> writes:
>
> His are marked with Ron Davis's name when you look closely.
>
> Ron

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 12 12:39:15 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:39:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] was 1967 Morris Truck
References: <253517.32910.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <42520CED7B234B828F7AA43BF6B27B7C@leovs802bt6yj7>

ROFLMAO   I thought EVERYONE had forgotten about the chicken de-beaker by 
now.  WOW!!!

Leo 

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 12 12:51:31 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:51:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] radiator photos
References: <515356.19381.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BB47C4DBB23947B6A3BDA43DB88DB0D9@leovs802bt6yj7>

hmmmmm.  go price the INDIVIDUAL cost from any of the other suppliers and 
you will see where the QUANTITY "discount" comes in.   I did think that was 
answered in my original post.  And NO it is not an exact copy but resembles 
the original in several aspects with all the advantages of the aluminum 
toward heat dissipation.   I could only imagine the cost if you wanted it 
"pressed" out of aluminum to EXACTLY copy an originals contours, etc...nor 
do I know if it is even possible due to the different meturalogy of aluminum

Leo 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Mar 12 12:52:40 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:52:40 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator question.
In-Reply-To: <402188521003121106h51271e88x3ef35c4266af4da4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C7BFDB88.24FD0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

It has to be in the water. If there's no water in top tank, it won't read
hot. I had a friend who fried an early VW Rabbit that way.

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Mar 12 12:53:34 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:53:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator question.
In-Reply-To: <402188521003121106h51271e88x3ef35c4266af4da4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <776462.49125.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<402188521003121106h51271e88x3ef35c4266af4da4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <175542.3068.qm@web84203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Aah!  So!
Thanks... makes a lot of sense     ;=)

 Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>

In the radiator, it is not measuring anything useful until the 
> thermostat opens.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Mar 12 12:55:19 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:55:19 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
In-Reply-To: <bcb16.a800de1.38cbed50@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C7BFDC27.24FD1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> If you wanted a domed thermostat
You can make one like the current Moss unit with a solder pot and some mud.
In fact, I doubt the Chinese "factory" even has a proper solder pot.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Mar 12 12:57:28 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:57:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator question.
In-Reply-To: <C7BFDB88.24FD0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <568441.81649.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

My grandfather used to roast rabbit.

jay

--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
 I had a friend who fried an early VW Rabbit that way.

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 12 13:02:38 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:02:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] radiator photos
References: <515356.19381.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F9ECE0D4C68C45349189EB58C641C11E@leovs802bt6yj7>

Oh yea, I forgot.to add.. none of the other ones available from the other 
suppliers ones with the "ridges, or valleys" in them UNLESS you add another 
50 to 75 dollar to their existing price

Leo 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 13:03:07 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:03:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator question.
In-Reply-To: <568441.81649.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <C7BFDB88.24FD0%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<568441.81649.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003121203g6db38ffbk10be8fdf6ce8cd8a@mail.gmail.com>

>>  I had a friend who fried an early VW Rabbit that way.

> My grandfather used to roast rabbit.

Cottontail is too lean for good roasting. Fried or hassenfefferred work
better.
David L

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 12 13:41:21 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:41:21 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] was 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <42520CED7B234B828F7AA43BF6B27B7C@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <253517.32910.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<42520CED7B234B828F7AA43BF6B27B7C@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <4B9AA6F1.9020400@justbrits.com>

<< I thought EVERYONE had forgotten about the chicken
de-beaker by now. >>

WORSE yet Leo..........

<quote>
...almost Montana Bob 'stop the madness' era.
</quote>

AaaaaaaaaRrrrrrrrrrGggggggggg !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 15:03:44 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:03:44 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>

That guy who was saved by a Highway Patrol car. .  the CHP guy got in front
of his Prius.

He was asked why he didn't shift into neutral?  His answer, "I was afraid
that I would accidentally shift into reverse!"  So he burned out the brakes
keeping the car at around 80 mph.

And what is it with these people that they cannot cut the ignition?  If your
car gets stuck and you cannot pull the pedal up. .  cut the ignition and
leave it in gear.   It will come to a stop and you will not have to burn out
the brakes!

Is the ignition stuck on at the same time that the gas pedal sticks?  I
really do not think so?

Looks like they panic and lose their logical thinking processes?

Kirk
59 1275  (has a hard time cruising at 80 with the brakes off)

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 15:15:13 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:15:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003121415s115685fo17ccce88736875fd@mail.gmail.com>

> That guy who was saved by a Highway Patrol car. .  the CHP guy got in front
> of his Prius.

And they expect us to believe that a Prius can do 90mph with a grown
man standing on the brake pedal. Turns out the guy is in foreclosure
and bankruptcy and desperate for money, WITH a history of "losing"
things to collect on the insurance. Coincidence? I think not.
David L

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 15:20:04 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:20:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003121420k3395f326h4cc2dce7d08d87f6@mail.gmail.com>

You DO NOT want to turn the key off and risk having the steering wheel lock
up. Also, many cars now have the proximity push button, rather than using a
key.
That still doesn't excuse someone being to stupid to slip it into neutral.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> That guy who was saved by a Highway Patrol car. .  the CHP guy got in front
> of his Prius.
>
> He was asked why he didn't shift into neutral?  His answer, "I was afraid
> that I would accidentally shift into reverse!"  So he burned out the brakes
> keeping the car at around 80 mph.
>
> And what is it with these people that they cannot cut the ignition?  If
> your
> car gets stuck and you cannot pull the pedal up. .  cut the ignition and
> leave it in gear.   It will come to a stop and you will not have to burn
> out
> the brakes!
>
> Is the ignition stuck on at the same time that the gas pedal sticks?  I
> really do not think so?
>
> Looks like they panic and lose their logical thinking processes?
>
> Kirk
> 59 1275  (has a hard time cruising at 80 with the brakes off)
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Mar 12 15:25:32 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:25:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

I don't know what year his is/was, but it's likely a new one with a 
push button ignition like your computer.. Windows.
  Press On to turn off, or some such illogical "intuitive" symbols.

  The shifter is a phallus protruding from the dash with a zippered scrotum.

I'm not sure it's not a computer "glitch".   There are some Camry's 
that magically turn left, electronically.

It's not just Toyota. There's some "piling on" here by the press, I think.

Peter C
===

At 04:03 PM 3/12/2010, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
>That guy who was saved by a Highway Patrol car. .  the CHP guy got in front
>of his Prius.
>
>He was asked why he didn't shift into neutral?  His answer, "I was afraid
>that I would accidentally shift into reverse!"  So he burned out the brakes
>keeping the car at around 80 mph.
>
>And what is it with these people that they cannot cut the ignition?  If your
>car gets stuck and you cannot pull the pedal up. .  cut the ignition and
>leave it in gear.   It will come to a stop and you will not have to burn out
>the brakes!
>
>Is the ignition stuck on at the same time that the gas pedal sticks?  I
>really do not think so?
>
>Looks like they panic and lose their logical thinking processes?
>
>Kirk
>59 1275  (has a hard time cruising at 80 with the brakes off)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Mar 12 15:27:44 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:27:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] was 1967 Morris Truck
In-Reply-To: <42520CED7B234B828F7AA43BF6B27B7C@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <253517.32910.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<42520CED7B234B828F7AA43BF6B27B7C@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <4B9ABFE0.8040307@comcast.net>

Leo S wrote:
> ROFLMAO   I thought EVERYONE had forgotten about the chicken de-beaker 
> by now.  WOW!!!
I'll never forget the chicken de-beaker, I made $27 selling that thing :)
AND it went to a chicken farmer, he said they were outlawed these days 
but they worked great and he had a small chicken farm.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Mar 12 15:41:04 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:41:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003121420k3395f326h4cc2dce7d08d87f6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88091003121420k3395f326h4cc2dce7d08d87f6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B9AC300.10307@comcast.net>

Brad Fornal wrote:
> You DO NOT want to turn the key off and risk having the steering wheel lock
> up. Also, many cars now have the proximity push button, rather than using a
> key.
>
>   
So if you push the button with it on, will it shut off?
I never started a "modern" car with a push button.
An old Mini, Sprite, and an old Volvo with a busted ign switch all had 
push buttons to start em but if you switched off the key (or ignition 
switch)
The car would die.
On a modern car if you switch the key off one click, it will die, the 
steering only locks if you pull the key out.
At least in my 01 truck and 03 Jaguar. Neither have a push button 
starter though.
It all boils down to this.....
We have dumbed down the sheeple of this country to a point where they 
can not think at all, let alone think for themselves.
My wife was just telling me about her friend from work,
They went to lunch in her car, Diane notice a very low tire, Carol said 
her husband will check it out over the weekend.
This was Monday, Diane said just stop and get air, Carol had no idea how 
to put air in a tire.
So Diane did it. Now how can a 50 something year old woman not have a 
clue as to putting air in a tire?
I taught my daughter how to change her own oil, change a flat tire, 
inspect her tires, gave her a brief idea as to what the front end is and 
does, what to listen for or what to do in case of an emergency. And I 
told her about brake fad and what to do incase the gas pedal got stuck.
And I did this when she was 17, she is now 27 and when the tire shop 
told her she needed a new transintoxicator relay valve, she said fine, 
I'll pick one up after you install my new tires and install it myself.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 15:51:18 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:51:18 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <4B9AC300.10307@comcast.net>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88091003121420k3395f326h4cc2dce7d08d87f6@mail.gmail.com>
	<4B9AC300.10307@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003121451y13f81ee5t60986c2a58851184@mail.gmail.com>

I guess people get panicked.  A shift to neutral and use of the brakes seems
would do the trick to stop the car.

Interesting article on the "Missile Launch Audi 5000" built in the 1980's.
Brock Yates takes an objective look at the situation, being able to thwart a
"run away" Audi with the brakes.

Scroll down. .

http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/4.33.html#subj7

Kirk



On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Brad Fornal wrote:
>
>> You DO NOT want to turn the key off and risk having the steering wheel
>> lock
>> up. Also, many cars now have the proximity push button, rather than using
>> a
>> key.
>>
>>
>>
> So if you push the button with it on, will it shut off?
> I never started a "modern" car with a push button.
> An old Mini, Sprite, and an old Volvo with a busted ign switch all had push
> buttons to start em but if you switched off the key (or ignition switch)
> The car would die.
> On a modern car if you switch the key off one click, it will die, the
> steering only locks if you pull the key out.
> At least in my 01 truck and 03 Jaguar. Neither have a push button starter
> though.
> It all boils down to this.....
> We have dumbed down the sheeple of this country to a point where they can
> not think at all, let alone think for themselves.
> My wife was just telling me about her friend from work,
> They went to lunch in her car, Diane notice a very low tire, Carol said her
> husband will check it out over the weekend.
> This was Monday, Diane said just stop and get air, Carol had no idea how to
> put air in a tire.
> So Diane did it. Now how can a 50 something year old woman not have a clue
> as to putting air in a tire?
> I taught my daughter how to change her own oil, change a flat tire, inspect
> her tires, gave her a brief idea as to what the front end is and does, what
> to listen for or what to do in case of an emergency. And I told her about
> brake fad and what to do incase the gas pedal got stuck.
> And I did this when she was 17, she is now 27 and when the tire shop told
> her she needed a new transintoxicator relay valve, she said fine, I'll pick
> one up after you install my new tires and install it myself.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 16:14:40 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:14:40 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003121514i6ce6b8bexb7d1752da5021603@mail.gmail.com>

Just to mention. .  I have been using a Suzuki Swift radiator (Geo Metro
basically the same) from a junker over the last few years on my 59 1275.

I never get above 170. .  even during long stop light durations in hot 100
degree + summer heat.

I also use the electric fan that came with the radiator tied to an under
hood thermostat I picked up at a local auto parts store.

A lot less money (near to nothing) compared to a custom aluminum unit and I
seem to be getting the cooling result that I was after.  Also running a
blanking sleeve in the summer.

A lot of bang for the buck. . at least so far for my needs.

Kirk
59 1275

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Mar 12 16:26:03 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:26:03 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003121514i6ce6b8bexb7d1752da5021603@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C7C00D8B.25005%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I never get above 170. .  even during long stop light durations in hot 100
> degree + summer heat.
Do you ever worry that running your engine that cold will wear it out
prematurely?

From pilotrob at msn.com  Fri Mar 12 17:39:28 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:39:28 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... radiator photos
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds20B37F08E6141D0E0F2845D4300@phx.gbl>

Very nice piece for the price, IMHO. :)

CB

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 12 17:54:13 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:54:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B9AE235.2060108@justbrits.com>

<< He was asked why he didn't shift into neutral? His answer,
"I was afraid that I would accidentally shift into reverse!" >>

And my FIRST question would have been "So what?"!!

<snip>

<< ...and lose their logical thinking processes? >>

NOT present to start with, Kirk !!!

Besides, saw just the reason 'kids' have ZERO 'clue'
today.  Driver's Ed car leaving High School next door
with student "driving" AND Instructor in right-hand
seat coming to a 4-way stop to my right.  
As I STOPPED, I watched said 'student' ROLL THE
STOP SIGN at approx 5 mph. whilst making a right-
hand turn !!  Must be "legal" these days when based
on the fact that the other driver at the intersection
IS stopped ?!?!?

What the He|| ELSE are they being "taught" ?!?!?!?

Er, beside NOTHING ?!?!?

Ed

PS:  And YES IL IS a State that has adopted the
.........Uniform Traffic Safety "program" <G> !?!

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 18:20:01 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:20:01 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
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These are "double-digit-midgets" (IQ)...they drive a Prius...not too smart
of folks!!!

Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings on the list.  I'm a 'conservative'.

Herb

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Mar 12 19:15:45 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:15:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
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Message-ID: <29224725AA684165AA692937B2FCBE5B@blackbox2>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
> And they expect us to believe that a Prius can do 90mph with a grown
> man standing on the brake pedal. Turns out the guy is in foreclosure
> and bankruptcy and desperate for money, WITH a history of "losing"
> things to collect on the insurance. Coincidence? I think not.

Yep, and it's now at the point where you can't seperate true problem incidence from 
mass hysteria.  Any Toyota involved in an accident at this time is now subject to the 
hyper-paraniodal microscopic scrutinizer.  This is followed up with a fifteen minute 
expose on CNN and a few phone calls to Toyota from the concerned constituent's local 
congressman.

Sure sucks to be a Toyota engineer right now.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 19:51:05 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:51:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Discovery
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003121851h773716ccm687f73e5d04b7aaa@mail.gmail.com>

Ever seen this?  First time for me.  Not bad.

http://lbc.gotstogo.com/

Herb

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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 12 19:51:18 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:51:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <29224725AA684165AA692937B2FCBE5B@blackbox2>
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<< Sure sucks to be a Toyota engineer right now. >>

Understatement, Dean <VBG> !!!

But I guess NONE of you folks have heard that
Toyota PICK-UPs for past few years ALSO have
been recalled ?!?!?!?

Excessive RUST [Frank's favorite buddy <G>] on
the Spare Tire Carrier ALLOW the spare tire to
FALL OUT [and hit car behind] !!!  

Sad part, there HAVE been recorded instances of
the event happening !!!!

Ed

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 12 19:52:00 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:52:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <29224725AA684165AA692937B2FCBE5B@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <653455.62645.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I gave a keynote address last week to an aerospace supplier's excellence alliance group (http://www.rockfordil.com/news-from-the-region/latest/p/item/457). To emphasize the point that what you do today has a profound and sometimes indelible influence on a company, I asked everyone to clear their minds, close their eyes and rewind to, say, October 2009. I asked the audience to shout out one word, free-associated with the word I was going to say. I said the word "Toyota". The crowd shouted back "quality". I asked them to fast forward to today, and asked what word they would shout out. I got "defects, lawsuits, crap...", etc. 

It takes decades to build a reputation, and seconds to destroy it. Like it or not, perception is reality. I also asked the open ended question as to whether the group thought the the problem was caused by a lack of lean manufacturing, or an excess of it. Tough answer.

Ron 

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 12 19:55:07 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:55:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
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	<201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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Betting you are correct, Peter !!!!

<< I'm not sure it's not a computer "glitch". >>

SEVERAL Lists I am on have been discussing that
very thing <G> !!!

And I am SURE our very own Mike R. will be happy
to confirm that ALL software has built in 'bugs'
[glitches];  accidental or not !!!

Mike ?????

Ed

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 12 20:04:22 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:04:22 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <4B9AFE8B.3090301@justbrits.com>
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	<4B9AFE8B.3090301@justbrits.com>
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He's out surfing...on the Big Island.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Shop at " Just Brits "
<shop at justbrits.com>wrote:

> Betting you are correct, Peter !!!!
>
> << I'm not sure it's not a computer "glitch". >>
>
> SEVERAL Lists I am on have been discussing that
> very thing <G> !!!
>
> And I am SURE our very own Mike R. will be happy
> to confirm that ALL software has built in 'bugs'
> [glitches];  accidental or not !!!
>
> Mike ?????
>
> Ed
>
> _______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Mar 12 20:15:11 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:15:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b11003121904y19719b49nff88f44c5cd23fc8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com><201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4B9AFE8B.3090301@justbrits.com>
	<2ad6c6b11003121904y19719b49nff88f44c5cd23fc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <340D6788EDE4427FBB45D27BDD3793AE@spider>

Who "owns" the black box (system recorded) data in these 'run-away' cars?
...bill in oregon
===================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:04 PM
To: Shop at Just Brits
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question

He's out surfing...on the Big Island.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Shop at " Just Brits "
<shop at justbrits.com>wrote:

> Betting you are correct, Peter !!!!
>
> << I'm not sure it's not a computer "glitch". >>
>
> SEVERAL Lists I am on have been discussing that
> very thing <G> !!!
>
> And I am SURE our very own Mike R. will be happy
> to confirm that ALL software has built in 'bugs'
> [glitches];  accidental or not !!!
>
> Mike ?????
>
> Ed

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Mar 12 20:35:44 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:35:44 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <653455.62645.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <653455.62645.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <11748.12.50.18.130.1268451344.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Awesome Ron; great job.  Now I HAVE to have your autograph!
Dave

> I gave a keynote address last week to an aerospace supplier's excellence
> alliance group
> (http://www.rockfordil.com/news-from-the-region/latest/p/item/457). To
> emphasize the point that what you do today has a profound and sometimes
> indelible influence on a company, I asked everyone to clear their minds,
> close their eyes and rewind to, say, October 2009. I asked the audience to
> shout out one word, free-associated with the word I was going to say. I
> said the word "Toyota". The crowd shouted back "quality". I asked them to
> fast forward to today, and asked what word they would shout out. I got
> "defects, lawsuits, crap...", etc.
>
> It takes decades to build a reputation, and seconds to destroy it. Like it
> or not, perception is reality. I also asked the open ended question as to
> whether the group thought the the problem was caused by a lack of lean
> manufacturing, or an excess of it. Tough answer.
>
> Ron

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 12 20:56:40 2010
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:56:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <653455.62645.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <905163.25956.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

 
    Or to put it another way, "One awshit wipes out a thousand attaboys".

--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:



I gave a keynote address last week to an aerospace supplier's excellence
alliance group
(http://www.rockfordil.com/news-from-the-region/latest/p/item/457). To
emphasize the point that what you do today has a profound and sometimes
indelible influence on a company, I asked everyone to clear their minds, close
their eyes and rewind to, say, October 2009. I asked the audience to shout out
one word, free-associated with the word I was going to say. I said the word
"Toyota". The crowd shouted back "quality". I asked them to fast forward to
today, and asked what word they would shout out. I got "defects, lawsuits,
crap...", etc.

It takes decades to build a reputation, and seconds to destroy it. Like it or
not, perception is reality. I also asked the open ended question as to whether
the group thought the the problem was caused by a lack of lean manufacturing,
or an excess of it. Tough answer.

Ron
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar 12 21:02:29 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:02:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b11003121720y643e6fa0q8fef00b1c931c9ad@mail.gmail.com>
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Well, I know there is at least one Prius driver on this list.  No, not me. 
But I'll bet he doesn't appreciate being called "not too smart" for driving 
a Prius.   Does "conservative" necessarily mean completely devoid of 
intelligent thought?  You make it seem so.  And not the first time, I might 
add.

LAD

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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question

These are "double-digit-midgets" (IQ)...they drive a Prius...not too smart
of folks!!!

Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings on the list.  I'm a 'conservative'.

Herb
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Mar 13 02:48:41 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:48:41 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
Message-ID: <46634.46f1f24a.38ccb979@aol.com>

I don't see any logic about the steering locking if you withdraw the key to 
 switch off the engine as you could always put the key back in again real 
quick  without a problem unless you were attempted this on a twisty  road....

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Mar 13 02:50:46 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:50:46 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiator
Message-ID: <466b0.5b1b287.38ccb9f6@aol.com>

That's coolant temp not oil temp, besides 170 is a reasonable coolant  
temp.  Modern cars run a hotter coolant temp for better gas mileage not  optimum 
power.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 12/03/2010 23:27:30 GMT Standard Time,  
billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:

> I  never get above 170. .  even during long stop light durations in hot  
100
> degree + summer heat.
Do you ever worry that running your  engine that cold will wear it out
prematurely?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Mar 13 02:55:52 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:55:52 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
Message-ID: <467a6.43bde8a1.38ccbb28@aol.com>

I'd have thought any Prius driver on the list has to be the exception to  
the rule as they own a spridget!
 
In a message dated 13/03/2010 04:02:55 GMT Standard Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

Well, I  know there is at least one Prius driver on this list.  No, not me. 
 
But I'll bet he doesn't appreciate being called "not too smart" for  
driving 
a Prius.   Does "conservative" necessarily mean  completely devoid of 
intelligent thought?  You make it seem so.   And not the first time, I 
might  
add.

LAD

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sat Mar 13 05:22:04 2010
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:22:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question
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	<97D8F0579FF34FD6A76177BE47B0AE43@HomePC>
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This summer, I picked up a '95 Jeep Grand Cherokee... I bought it quite
cheap, as it needed a few things fixed. (Larry went with me.)

One morning, I was on the way to the dentist... and realized I'd neglected
to bring my phone, so I returned to my home, parked halfway on the grass,
slightly uphill, on the left side of the road, and ran in. I came back out,
and my Jeep was gone. It had rolled down the hill, and was smashed up
against a small pine tree in the neighbor's yard down by the lake. 

It had broken a well casing in her yard, and water was gushing out of the
ground like a geyser. The Jeep was still running. I couldn't understand how
this happened, as the idle is high enough on the Jeep that you'd have no
chance getting out of the door is you'd left it in reverse while running. (I
later found out that this Jeep had never gone in for the recall to fix the
detent ball in the trans or linkage that had caused numerous other
Chrysler/Jeep owners the same problem.) If it hadn't hit the tree, it either
would have roller through her living room, or all the way down to the lake.

I was slightly embarrassed as I called my insurance guy and explained. He
said not to worry, as something similar had happened to him just the night
before. His family was sitting in his Prius in their driveway, when it
started on its own, and lurched into their other car in the driveway.
Remember, this took place late summer '09, before Toyota's shit hit the fan.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:02 PM
To: WFO Herb
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation. . Question

Well, I know there is at least one Prius driver on this list.  No, not me. 
But I'll bet he doesn't appreciate being called "not too smart" for driving 
a Prius.   Does "conservative" necessarily mean completely devoid of 
intelligent thought?  You make it seem so.  And not the first time, I might 
add.

LAD

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 13 08:29:30 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:29:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets]  Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
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Kirk, Thanks for bringing the Toyota thing up. I almost did a few times but I
figured all I would do is rant about the idiots behind the wheel and maybe
piss off some people. Too late, here goes. I was outraged when I saw coverage
of the jerk being chased down the highway by the cops to be "saved". Toyota
needs to sue him, then they should lock him up for being too damn stupid to be
allowed out in public. We'd be helping the gene pool by putting him out of our
misery. 

I have owned and driven some stupidly fast cars and ridden in a few
others that were semi-mythical in their capabilities. With VERY few
exceptions, I don't think there was a one of them that would/could continue to
accelerate or even move forward when the brakes are depressed. Particularly
from a dead stop. I guess if you had multiple hundreds of horsepower in a
rear-engined car with very little weight up front you could pull it off.
Maybe. A modern unmodified car? No way. A Hybrid of all things? Give me a
break.

Shift into neutral. Turn it off. Push the damn brakes to the floor and
hold them there. It will stop. I don't know the exact Prius setup, but most
cars with a push-button start feature still have a key in the ignition to turn
off.  To start it, you put the key in, turn it, then push the button. To kill,
you turn off the key like a normal car. This car may be different, but you can
definitely turn the car off and the steering won't lock till you yank the keys
back to the setting where you pull them out.  This guy supposedly had the
"presence of mind" to phone for help, but not to figure this out? Yeah, right.
Sounds like a plea for media coverage and future lawsuits to me.  I hope the
local cops throw him in jail for the obvious publicity stunt. 

Finally, I'm
sorry that the California cop killed himself and his family with his Toyota.
(and I hope he has no family here even more...) But, his own lack of
driving/thinking skills are what killed him. NOT the Toyota.  I guess my point
isthis: Things happen while you are behind the wheel. Drivers react, get over
it and then move on.  Passengers behind the wheel crash, injure themselves or
die, and sometimes take people with them. 

There. I feel better, thanks,
David Booker
Who believes in taking responsibility for your own actions or
lack thereof,
Long Island


________________________________
From: Kirk
Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri,
March 12, 2010 5:03:44 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck
Situation. . Question

That guy who was saved by a Highway Patrol car. .  the
CHP guy got in front
of his Prius.

He was asked why he didn't shift into
neutral?  His answer, "I was afraid
that I would accidentally shift into
reverse!"  So he burned out the brakes
keeping the car at around 80 mph.

And
what is it with these people that they cannot cut the ignition?  If your
car
gets stuck and you cannot pull the pedal up. .  cut the ignition and
leave it
in gear.  It will come to a stop and you will not have to burn out
the brakes!
Is the ignition stuck on at the same time that the gas pedal sticks?  I
really
do not think so?

Looks like they panic and lose their logical thinking
processes?

Kirk
59 1275  (has a hard time cruising at 80 with the brakes off)
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 13 08:53:12 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:53:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <595293.30934.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <566197.51791.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Maybe. A modern unmodified car? No way. A Hybrid of all
> things? Give me a
> break.
> 
> Shift into neutral. Turn it off. 

Yes, I agree that the "runaway car" theory is ridiculous. But at, say, 68 MPH you are traveling 100 ft/second. Let's say you're on the LIE - is there even 100 feet between you and the car in front of you at 68 MPH?? Do you slow down when you go onto the exit ramp more than 100 feet before you need to brake or turn? If the throttle system malfunctions, you've maybe got 1/2  look at your stop watch and press try to start/stop within, say, 1/2 a second. Like it or not, even the best drivers can't process that a car is not decelerating, put it into neutral, hold the off button for 2 seconds, or mash the brake and not instinctively lift off it in 1/2 a second. That's the problem that warrants attention. I rent a car every 2 or 3 weeks. Most now have push buttons where you keep the key in your pocket. I find it stupid and unintuitive to push and hold a button to make the car stop (on my race car, I slap an ignition kill switch, and I have had the throttle
 stick and break at speed a few memorable times).

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 13 08:55:30 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 07:55:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
Message-ID: <478989.95329.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Must be the topic - unintended send before finishing. Anyway, I think both
poor drivers and product deficiencies are at fault here, but the product needs
to be fixed.

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets]  Toyota Gas
Pedal rant
> To: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Saturday, March
13, 2010, 9:53 AM
> --- On Sat, 3/13/10, David Booker
> <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Maybe. A modern unmodified car? No way. A Hybrid of
> all
> >
things? Give me a
> > break.
> > 
> > Shift into neutral. Turn it off. 
> 
>
Yes, I agree that the "runaway car" theory is ridiculous.
> But at, say, 68
MPH you are traveling 100 ft/second. Let's
> say you're on the LIE - is there
even 100 feet between you
> and the car in front of you at 68 MPH?? Do you
slow down
> when you go onto the exit ramp more than 100 feet before you
>
need to brake or turn? If the throttle system malfunctions,
> you've maybe got
1/2  look at your stop watch and press
> try to start/stop within, say, 1/2 a
second. Like it or not,
> even the best drivers can't process that a car is
not
> decelerating, put it into neutral, hold the off button for 2
> seconds,
or mash the brake and not instinctively lift off it
> in 1/2 a second. That's
the problem that warrants attention.
> I rent a car every 2 or 3 weeks. Most
now have push buttons
> where you keep the key in your pocket. I find it
stupid and
> unintuitive to push and hold a button to make the car stop
> (on
my race car, I slap an ignition kill switch, and I have
> had the throttle
>
stick and break at speed a few memorable times).
> 
> 
> 
>       

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat Mar 13 08:55:28 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:55:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <595293.30934.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<595293.30934.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201003130755329.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

David, while I am in complete agreement with your argument, you 
really do need to have the facts on the Prius key situation to make 
your points more valid.
         In fact, in the Prius 3, the "key" unlocks the doors. You 
then put it in your pocket, and push the start button. As long as 
that "key" is in proximity of the car, you can start it. There's no 
place to insert the key in the car, except maybe the cup holder.
         It happens that if you exit the car with key in your pocket, 
leaving the car running so your spouse can finish her errands while 
you get your hair cut, and she happens to turn the car off, she'll 
not be able to restart it, until you're done with your haircut, and 
find suitable transportation to wherever her errands took her..... 
ahem, this is all hypothetical, of course!

         Peter C
====
At 09:29 AM 3/13/2010, you wrote:
>Kirk, Thanks for bringing the Toyota thing up.

SNIP

>Shift into neutral. Turn it off. Push the damn brakes to the floor and
>hold them there. It will stop. I don't know the exact Prius setup, but most
>cars with a push-button start feature still have a key in the ignition to turn
>off.  To start it, you put the key in, turn it, then push the button. To kill,
>you turn off the key like a normal car. This car may be different, but you can
>definitely turn the car off and the steering won't lock till you yank the keys
>back to the setting where you pull them out.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Mar 13 10:03:15 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:03:15 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
Message-ID: <1db0c.103c5798.38cd1f53@aol.com>

There was a similar case in the UK with a guy in a BMW and eventually he  
was prosecuted.
 
In a message dated 13/03/2010 15:29:35 GMT Standard Time,  
tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes:

I was  outraged when I saw coverage
of the jerk being chased down the highway by  the cops to be "saved". Toyota
needs to sue him, then they should lock him  up for being too damn stupid 
to be
allowed out in public. We'd be helping  the gene pool by putting him out of 
our
misery.  

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Mar 13 10:05:00 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:05:00 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
Message-ID: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>

Peter - you're the Prius owner on the list?
 
In a message dated 13/03/2010 15:59:03 GMT Standard Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

David,  while I am in complete agreement with your argument, you 
really do need to  have the facts on the Prius key situation to make 
your points more  valid.
In fact, in the Prius 3, 
ahem,  this is all hypothetical, of course!

Peter C
====

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Mar 13 10:49:48 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:49:48 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal Stuck Situation
In-Reply-To: <000601cac2a7$cee63200$6cb29600$@com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>,
	<2ad6c6b11003121720y643e6fa0q8fef00b1c931c9ad@mail.gmail.com>,
	<97D8F0579FF34FD6A76177BE47B0AE43@HomePC>,
	<000601cac2a7$cee63200$6cb29600$@com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W424CD574D25C669B4F8D59B8300@phx.gbl>

I think I need to buy a Toyota to spice up my bland life!

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 13 10:58:20 2010
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:58:20 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for DS Outer Rocker Front 6" as a patch panel
Message-ID: <597064.37787.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I need to patch the very front of my DS Outer Rocker right behind the wheel. I
need about the first 4" or so of the rocker so I can weld in a patch. DPO
replaced rockers but left in primer and never painted properly for an unknown
period of time. Over past 10 years, in spite of being garaged most of the
time, portion has rusted totally through. I will likely fabricate a piece but
getting that compound curve and right angle bend will be tricky. Anyway if
anyone has a scrap piece or rocker for DS please e-mail me off line as
thistle_3619 at yahoo.com. 
Jim GruberDayton, OHBugsy '68 Sprite that thinks he's a BE

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Mar 13 11:03:29 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:03:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota ...
In-Reply-To: <201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>,
	<201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W43752BA2A00C73CCC192B7B8300@phx.gbl>

All I hear is Toyota all over the place.



Strangely I got this real weird Toyota book as a gift.  It's called the
Camry/Supra or something close to that.  I haven't read it, but I flipped
through the pages and saw some of the pictures ...  No wonder Toyota is having
production problems!!!  You should see what they're doing!

From gmajewski at wi.rr.com  Sat Mar 13 11:21:45 2010
From: gmajewski at wi.rr.com (gary majewski)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:21:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Thank You
Message-ID: <2834AD5D-19DA-41B1-9F83-EDD0455380D8@wi.rr.com>

Spridget Group,


	I want to thank all that have contributed solutions to my problem. Will be
evaluating the cost to solve the situations. From taking in the existing
radiator
in to have it recored to purchasing another type. Maybe the easiest means to
getting a thermostat is obtaining a different thermostat cover.


	As far as to my location, I live in Southeast Wisconsin, in a town called
Eagle. Reside not to far from Old World Wisconsin. Quiet community,  but
growing to rapidly. But still no complaints when the BE gets fired up.

	Once again, thanks for all the help.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar 13 11:31:05 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:31:05 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <201003130755329.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<595293.30934.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201003130755329.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4B9BD9E9.6060809@justbrits.com>

<< and she happens to turn the car off, she'll not be able to
restart it, until you're done with your haircut, and find suitable
transportation to wherever her errands took her..... ahem, this
is all hypothetical, of course! >>

Yeah RIGHT, Peter !!!

Just how MAD was Jane when she found you sittin'
in the tavern ENJOYING yourself ?!?!?!?

Anon (hypothetically)

PS;  "Haircut" must be THE most common of
........."errands", right guys <G> ??

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Mar 13 11:40:14 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:40:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <4B9BD9E9.6060809@justbrits.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<595293.30934.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201003130755329.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4B9BD9E9.6060809@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <25FD0C87-A8C7-4A5E-AD2A-36E03C805442@comcast.net>

Is there still time to buy a Toyota and run it into a wall for insurance cash?
I've been out of town and would hat to think that I missed the boat...

Thanks all,

Lester

..  there may be a problem but there was a spike in problems AFTER the first
news report.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Mar 13 11:54:48 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:54:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Computer bugs and Surfing
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b11003121904y19719b49nff88f44c5cd23fc8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4B9AFE8B.3090301@justbrits.com>
	<2ad6c6b11003121904y19719b49nff88f44c5cd23fc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B55BE159A2D94103BF52F33F639FBF55@Home>

> He's out surfing...on the Big Island.

Actually, this Mike R. is sitting at the computer looking out at a HUGE 
storm with waves bashing the bulkhead and spraying salt water on the Midget. 
The last time we had a storm like this, the waves got behind the bulkhead, 
washed out a lot of sand, and burst a big section of it outward because the 
25-year-old steel rods to the deadmen had rusted through - a very expensive 
repair.  Also, I have bowls out on the window sill upstairs because in winds 
this strong, coming from just the right angle (once or twice a year), water 
is blown uphill under the flashing and leaks onto my stash of new parts for 
the BE (kept inside instead under the house with the used parts in the salt 
spray) - another very expensive repair for better weather.  The wind is so 
strong that the water in the toilets is sloshing.  Meanwhile, my wife is 
playing violin loudly 3' away from my right ear - fiddling while the toilets 
slosh.

So yes,  I would surely rather be on the Big Island surfing instead of on 
Long Island sloshing.

I called my sister on the Big Island at the time the tsunami from Chile was 
supposed to hit Hilo.  She can't see the Bay from her house, but was 
watching TV cameras set up along the shore and was unable to see anything at 
all when it passed.  There used to be many near-shore restaurants in Hilo 
with mud lines painted across their windows at 5-7' from various tsunamis. 
Other smaller buildings were simply carried away.  I don't know if any of 
those mud lines remain.

The other Mike R. is on the radio advertising something.  I didn't buy any.

Michael Rowe
'70 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Mar 13 12:10:35 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:10:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Computer bugs and Surfing
Message-ID: <8E4FDD1FB36F44678583BA80226D4AD2@Home>

After sending the previous note, I went upstairs to use one of the sloshing 
toilets, looked out a window, and discovered that a 25'-30' cedar tree in 
the "hedge" between us and the neighbor has blown over about 45 degrees and 
will have to come down.  It is next to an even bigger one that died and I 
had to cut down in the Fall for fear that it would land on the neighbor's 
garage.  Now we will have a big hole between us and the neighbor.

And my wife is still fiddling in the storm.

Michael Rowe 

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat Mar 13 12:54:07 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:54:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota ...
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W43752BA2A00C73CCC192B7B8300@phx.gbl>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<BAY112-W43752BA2A00C73CCC192B7B8300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <201003131154859.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Sounds like my copy of "the Joy of Lexus" or sumptin'


At 12:03 PM 3/13/2010, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
>All I hear is Toyota all over the place.
>
>
>
>Strangely I got this real weird Toyota book as a gift.  It's called the
>Camry/Supra or something close to that.  I haven't read it, but I flipped
>through the pages and saw some of the pictures ...  No wonder Toyota is having
>production problems!!!  You should see what they're doing!
>_______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat Mar 13 13:03:24 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:03:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

I'll confess (NOT aplogize) I have a 1st gen Prius... bought it used 
from my in-laws, who have a 2nd gen Prius, and whose scenario I 
described. (same conditions on the 3rd)

I also have a Yaris. I have had 2 Corollas, 4 Hi-luxes, a Camry, and 
would gladly buy more Toyotas, as the need arises.

The Prius does EXACTLY what I wanted, which is go from point A to 
point B at 45 MPG without excitement or drama. I am not one of those 
who seeks maximum MPGs. It's a car, a very good car, doing precisely 
what that sort of car is expected to do.

And, I'm probably not the only owner... at least I hope not!

         Peter
======
At 11:05 AM 3/13/2010, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>Peter - you're the Prius owner on the list?
>
>In a message dated 13/03/2010 15:59:03 GMT Standard Time, 
>peter at nosimport.com writes:
>David, while I am in complete agreement with your argument, you
>really do need to have the facts on the Prius key situation to make
>your points more valid.
>          In fact, in the Prius 3,
>ahem, this is all hypothetical, of course!
>
>          Peter C
>====

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Mar 13 13:15:57 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:15:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>
	<201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

And I have a Honda Civic Hybrid for the same reason..

The excitement comes from my Spridgets  ;-))
 
Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
The Prius does EXACTLY what I wanted, which is go from point A to 
point B at 45 MPG without excitement or drama. I am not one of those 
who seeks maximum MPGs. It's a car, a very good car, doing precisely 
what that sort of car is expected to do.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar 13 13:48:06 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:48:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com><201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>

Dave, do you remember back far enough to when the excitement came from the 
lady in the passenger seat?  I'm not going to get old if that is what 
happens to you.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "DAVID GROPPER" <kk7ss at verizon.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 2:15 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant

And I have a Honda Civic Hybrid for the same reason..

The excitement comes from my Spridgets  ;-))

Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
The Prius does EXACTLY what I wanted, which is go from point A to
point B at 45 MPG without excitement or drama. I am not one of those
who seeks maximum MPGs. It's a car, a very good car, doing precisely
what that sort of car is expected to do.
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Mar 13 13:59:14 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:59:14 EST
Subject: [Spridgets] Thank You
Message-ID: <6741c.752cdfd5.38cd56a2@aol.com>

I think you will find the solution will be to make a different thermostat  
cover.
 
In a message dated 13/03/2010 18:28:44 GMT Standard Time,  
gmajewski at wi.rr.com writes:

Maybe  the easiest means to
getting a thermostat is obtaining a different  thermostat cover.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar 13 14:08:54 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:08:54 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com><201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4B9BFEE6.8090902@justbrits.com>

<< I'm not going to get old if that is what happens...... >>

Knowing you Larry, THE above IS gospel !!!!

LOL !!!

Ed

PS:  & yer welcome<smirk>!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar 13 14:13:20 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:13:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Computer bugs and Surfing
In-Reply-To: <8E4FDD1FB36F44678583BA80226D4AD2@Home>
References: <8E4FDD1FB36F44678583BA80226D4AD2@Home>
Message-ID: <4B9BFFF0.4050203@justbrits.com>

<< Now we will have a big hole between us and the neighbor. >>

PERFECT 'excuse' to build a 'dream' garage/shop,
Michael <VBEG><smirk> !!!!!!

<< And my wife is still fiddling in the storm. >>

OMG, you poor guy !!!

Our "feelings" go out to you & yer ears !!!!!

Me

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Mar 13 14:45:55 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:45:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com><201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
Message-ID: <174005.34949.qm@web84205.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

What do you mean "Remember!"
Just because there's snow on the roof...   etc.,etc,    ;=))

The grandkids are great fun in the right seat....

 "Whee, do it again, grandpa!"

Dave G.


----- Original Message ----
> From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>

Dave, do you remember back far enough to when the excitement came from the 
lady in the passenger seat?  I'm not going to get old if that is what 
happens to you.

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 13 14:48:03 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:48:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>
	<201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
Message-ID: <b777e2be1003131348i3adb7e2ue79b2f2571b27831@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Dave, do you remember back far enough to when the excitement came from
the lady in the passenger seat?  I'm not going to get old if that is
what happens to you.

Before she was my wife, the lady in the passenger seat got REALLY
excited one day when I punched my 68 Vette up to 145 MPH... She
actually screamed louder than the exhaust! She screamed some more when
I told her that it would go faster still. (Its top end was 160.)

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 13 15:01:09 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:01:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Chevrolet electrical question
Message-ID: <b777e2be1003131401x42106beft4c842d043aaf8871@mail.gmail.com>

We had a really hard storm last evening with thunder, hail,
lightening, etc. It is about the lightening that I enquire... My 2000
Blazer was parked out front and sat fairly close to where a lightening
strike ocurred. It does not appear to have been hit, but, the
headlights came on by themselves!!! I thought that maybe they would go
off after a few minutes so I waited a while. Yes, it was still pouring
out and I really didn't wasnt to get drenched... After about 15
minutes the rain let up and I went out to check into it. I tried to
start the engine but it would fire and quit. The lights would not go
out either. I ended up disconnecting the battery.

The other weirdnesses are: there was a smell of some sort in the car
when I first got in (not really remeniscent of burned wiring but could
be?) and the radio was only making strange noises in a repetitive
pattern, no music regardless of button pushing. The car is a basic
model: V-6, stick with no extra power accessories. No windows, alarm
etc.

I checked the owner's manual and it seems to have some symptoms of the
anti-theft device being activated but it does not have a security
system with a key fob push buttom deal...

Any ideas? It has been raining all day so I haven't tried reconnecting
the battery yet.

TIA for any guidance,
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar 13 15:13:09 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:13:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be1003131348i3adb7e2ue79b2f2571b27831@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com><201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com><1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
	<b777e2be1003131348i3adb7e2ue79b2f2571b27831@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <782C47801E884E95998758375124A18E@HomePC>

My wife would be beating me severely about the head and shoulders well 
before 145 MPH.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "CosmicMag1380" <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:48 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Dave, do you remember back far enough to when the excitement came from
the lady in the passenger seat?  I'm not going to get old if that is
what happens to you.

Before she was my wife, the lady in the passenger seat got REALLY
excited one day when I punched my 68 Vette up to 145 MPH... She
actually screamed louder than the exhaust! She screamed some more when
I told her that it would go faster still. (Its top end was 160.)

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar 13 15:16:16 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:16:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Thank You
In-Reply-To: <2834AD5D-19DA-41B1-9F83-EDD0455380D8@wi.rr.com>
References: <2834AD5D-19DA-41B1-9F83-EDD0455380D8@wi.rr.com>
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Gary, you are a stones throw from Dave Woerpel in Burlington.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "gary majewski" <gmajewski at wi.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:21 PM
To: "spridgets spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Thank You

Spridget Group,


I want to thank all that have contributed solutions to my problem. Will be
evaluating the cost to solve the situations. From taking in the existing
radiator
in to have it recored to purchasing another type. Maybe the easiest means to
getting a thermostat is obtaining a different thermostat cover.


As far as to my location, I live in Southeast Wisconsin, in a town called
Eagle. Reside not to far from Old World Wisconsin. Quiet community,  but
growing to rapidly. But still no complaints when the BE gets fired up.

Once again, thanks for all the help.
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Mar 13 15:43:18 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:43:18 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Chevrolet electrical question
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be1003131401x42106beft4c842d043aaf8871@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b777e2be1003131401x42106beft4c842d043aaf8871@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B9C1506.9000507@frontiernet.net>

My first guess would be a cooked brain. It's a simple fix on a Jeep 
Cherokee, but I know nothing about Chevies.

Kate


CosmicMag1380 wrote:
> We had a really hard storm last evening with thunder, hail,
> lightening, etc. It is about the lightening that I enquire... My 2000
> Blazer was parked out front and sat fairly close to where a lightening
> strike ocurred. It does not appear to have been hit, but, the
> headlights came on by themselves!!! I thought that maybe they would go
> off after a few minutes so I waited a while. Yes, it was still pouring
> out and I really didn't wasnt to get drenched... After about 15
> minutes the rain let up and I went out to check into it. I tried to
> start the engine but it would fire and quit. The lights would not go
> out either. I ended up disconnecting the battery.
>
> The other weirdnesses are: there was a smell of some sort in the car
> when I first got in (not really remeniscent of burned wiring but could
> be?) and the radio was only making strange noises in a repetitive
> pattern, no music regardless of button pushing. The car is a basic
> model: V-6, stick with no extra power accessories. No windows, alarm
> etc.
>
> I checked the owner's manual and it seems to have some symptoms of the
> anti-theft device being activated but it does not have a security
> system with a key fob push buttom deal...
>
> Any ideas? It has been raining all day so I haven't tried reconnecting
> the battery yet.
>
> TIA for any guidance,

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Mar 13 15:44:24 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:44:24 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <782C47801E884E95998758375124A18E@HomePC>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com><201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com><1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
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	<782C47801E884E95998758375124A18E@HomePC>
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I'd be asking if it could go any faster!

Kate


Larry Daniels wrote:
> My wife would be beating me severely about the head and shoulders well 
> before 145 MPH.
>
> LAD

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Mar 13 16:01:43 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:01:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for DS Outer Rocker Front 6" as a patch
 panel
In-Reply-To: <597064.37787.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <597064.37787.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B9C1957.2030000@comcast.net>

James Gruber wrote:
> I need to patch the very front of my DS Outer Rocker right behind the wheel. 
Take a piece of sheetmetal, hold it up on the rocker a little past the 
front edge, use a marker and mark the curve, cut it about 3/4" outside 
of the mark, use tin snips to cut a few slots in the 3/4" overhang. Beat 
the overhang into a lip, you might have to trim a bit off the slots 
where they overlap but it is a simple piece to make.
Try it with a piece of cardboard first.
When you cut the rust out of the rocker, and fit the new patch, put a 
screw in the middle of the patch and use it as a handle to slide the 
patch behind what you cut out of the rocker. Some self drilling screws 
to hold it in place so you can weld it work great and when you remove 
the self drillers, spot weld those holes.
The tough part on a Bugeye are the behind the rear wheels patches. 
Compound curves but I have beat metal to fit those too.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Mar 13 16:06:46 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:06:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Computer bugs and Surfing
In-Reply-To: <B55BE159A2D94103BF52F33F639FBF55@Home>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4B9AFE8B.3090301@justbrits.com>
	<2ad6c6b11003121904y19719b49nff88f44c5cd23fc8@mail.gmail.com>
	<B55BE159A2D94103BF52F33F639FBF55@Home>
Message-ID: <4B9C1A86.8050301@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
>> He's out surfing...on the Big Island.
>
> Actually, this Mike R. is sitting at the computer looking out at a 
> HUGE storm with waves bashing the bulkhead and spraying salt water on 
> the Midget. 

The Jersey Shore is about the same. Power was out for 3 hours, 
horizontal rain, I lost a large branch, poles are down all over, and 
everything is flooded.
But lets be glad it's not colder, they said we would have had 40 inches 
of snow if it were below freezing.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Mar 13 16:25:58 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:25:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Computer bugs and Surfing
In-Reply-To: <4B9C1A86.8050301@comcast.net>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4B9AFE8B.3090301@justbrits.com>
	<2ad6c6b11003121904y19719b49nff88f44c5cd23fc8@mail.gmail.com>
	<B55BE159A2D94103BF52F33F639FBF55@Home> <4B9C1A86.8050301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <945846.54790.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Sitting here in the Inland Pacific NW, sun's shining, about 56*F, slight breeze..
Great weather... that is, until later- back down to below freezing tonight!!

 
Just to make you feel good <G>

Dave G.



----- Original Message ----

> Actually, this Mike R. is sitting at the computer looking out at a HUGE 
> storm with waves bashing the bulkhead and spraying salt water on the Midget. 
> 

The Jersey Shore is about the same. Power was out for 3 hours, 
But lets be glad it's not colder, they said we would have had 40 
> inches of snow if it were below freezing.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar 13 16:48:53 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:48:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <595293.30934.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<595293.30934.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B9C2465.7090102@justbrits.com>

<< But, his own lack of driving/thinking skills are what killed
him. NOT the Toyota.  >>

What is REALLY scary David, is that he HAD to have
graduated from the CHP's Drivers' School !!!  And
since I have [and know a bunch of other guys still]
it is a BI*CH of a course !?!?!?  That cop should NOT
have even made the news !!!!!  It's bothered me since
say I read the newspaper article !?!?!?!

VERY odd !!

Ed

From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Mar 13 17:39:07 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:39:07 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Crossflow head
Message-ID: <74A663CC-72FF-4A01-A2B7-9314DBD6319C@ado13.com>

The person selling the crossflow head on ebay, item # 350326693916 is using
pictures of my Bugeye without my permission. I don't really care but I don't
want people to think that I have anything to do with this, I DO NOT have any
connection whatsoever with this seller.

Larry Miller

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Mar 13 17:47:26 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:47:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <782C47801E884E95998758375124A18E@HomePC>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com><201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com><1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
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	<782C47801E884E95998758375124A18E@HomePC>
Message-ID: <12056489-D7B4-415C-A84D-098DA2B36004@phillymgclub.com>

Being beaten about the head and shoulders at anything approaching 145 sounds
flat dangerous, to all occupants of the car. My wife would not do that, now
squeezing very very tightly below the steering wheel, maybe.

Larry

On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:

> My wife would be beating me severely about the head and shoulders well
> before 145 MPH.
>
> LAD
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "CosmicMag1380" <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:48 PM
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
>
> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> Dave, do you remember back far enough to when the excitement came from
> the lady in the passenger seat?  I'm not going to get old if that is
> what happens to you.
>
> Before she was my wife, the lady in the passenger seat got REALLY
> excited one day when I punched my 68 Vette up to 145 MPH... She
> actually screamed louder than the exhaust! She screamed some more when
> I told her that it would go faster still. (Its top end was 160.)
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and
you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Mar 13 17:51:08 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:51:08 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <12056489-D7B4-415C-A84D-098DA2B36004@phillymgclub.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com><201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com><1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC><b777e2be1003131348i3adb7e2ue79b2f2571b27831@mail.gmail.com><782C47801E884E95998758375124A18E@HomePC>
	<12056489-D7B4-415C-A84D-098DA2B36004@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <E26FE6DF7BE741C7B488EC174F0B84DF@spider>

Ouch! Slowing would be good. ...bill in oregon
=================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Macy
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 4:47 PM
To: Larry Daniels
Cc: Spridgets net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant

Being beaten about the head and shoulders at anything approaching 145 sounds
flat dangerous, to all occupants of the car. My wife would not do that, now
squeezing very very tightly below the steering wheel, maybe.

Larry
-----------------------------------------------------
On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:

> My wife would be beating me severely about the head and shoulders well
> before 145 MPH.
>
> LAD

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Mar 13 18:11:05 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:11:05 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Crossflow head
In-Reply-To: <74A663CC-72FF-4A01-A2B7-9314DBD6319C@ado13.com>
References: <74A663CC-72FF-4A01-A2B7-9314DBD6319C@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <14BAB08B21144F6FAFD23589BE9217C1@spider>

Nice engine bay; you need to lean on them for some promotional dollars.
Imply that you'll have eBay pull the photos.
They are supposed to have your permission to use them.
(spend the money on the little lady ...or the car.)  ...bill in oregon
=====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 4:39 PM
To: Spridget; Bugeye
Subject: [Spridgets] Crossflow head

The person selling the crossflow head on ebay, item # 350326693916 is using
pictures of my Bugeye without my permission. I don't really care but I don't
want people to think that I have anything to do with this, I DO NOT have any
connection whatsoever with this seller.

Larry Miller
_______________________________________________

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sat Mar 13 18:13:51 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:13:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] aluminum radiator
Message-ID: <4D273AFE680E434888B17C96BCFC751B@leovs802bt6yj7>

check out item 200440420094  and then go look at the pictures of the aluminum
radiator from the mfg in England....  Then see why I went with the company in
England.

Leo

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar 13 18:16:55 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:16:55 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Virtual Trip to England
In-Reply-To: <bd466.3f89e2f6.38cbef20@aol.com>
References: <bd466.3f89e2f6.38cbef20@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4B9C3907.2040501@justbrits.com>

<< On Google maps/multimap/streemap you can see my daughter's
blue paddling pool in the garden. >>

You can see mine [money pit - as bad as a yacht] by
doing same Daniel, satellite view is best<G> !!!  Use

5624 South Washington, Hinsdale, IL 60521

for your 'search' <G> !!!  Zoom in @ 7-8 times.

Anybody that wants it may send cable-rigging Co. &
helicopter [to take it AWAY] by appointment only,
please.              Price = FREE !!!!

Ed

PS:  Frank & Diane, Peter, Dave W., David L. & Willy
.........have seen it it person [should you need
.........'references'].

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar 13 18:28:42 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:28:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] aluminum radiator
In-Reply-To: <4D273AFE680E434888B17C96BCFC751B@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <4D273AFE680E434888B17C96BCFC751B@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <4B9C3BCA.6070607@justbrits.com>

Makes it a VERY easy....

<< Then see why I went with the company in England. >>

choice for me, where I looking for one, Leo.

NO comparison !!!!  Yikes <F> !!

Ed

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Mar 13 18:34:09 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:34:09 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Queen's English Car Show Tomorrow
Message-ID: <d49b03131003131734k66805427ub8d86ca63f1ea6b0@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone on the list going to be at the Queen's English Car show at Woodley
Park in the valley here in SoCal tomorrow?  I will be there with my Bugeye
and my new Oshit shirt.  Last year there were at least two famous people at
the show.  Our own Billy Zoom and one other guy of some note (Jay Leno).
Hope to see some listers there.  I may be walking around taking pictures if
not at my car.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar 13 18:37:49 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:37:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <12056489-D7B4-415C-A84D-098DA2B36004@phillymgclub.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com><201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com><1E3075B04DC84EDFB95F37D7EC7672DF@HomePC>
	<b777e2be1003131348i3adb7e2ue79b2f2571b27831@mail.gmail.com>
	<782C47801E884E95998758375124A18E@HomePC>
	<12056489-D7B4-415C-A84D-098DA2B36004@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <DB8130CA771E4284B68D2F171257C01F@HomePC>

She had better not.  That would upset my wife, too.  Then I'd get another
beating.

LAD


From: Larry Macy
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 6:47 PM
To: Larry Daniels
Cc: Spridgets net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant


Being beaten about the head and shoulders at anything approaching 145 sounds
flat dangerous, to all occupants of the car. My wife would not do that, now
squeezing very very tightly below the steering wheel, maybe.


Larry


On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:13 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:


  My wife would be beating me severely about the head and shoulders well
  before 145 MPH.

  LAD

  --------------------------------------------------
  From: "CosmicMag1380" <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
  Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:48 PM
  To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant

  On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
  wrote:
  Dave, do you remember back far enough to when the excitement came from
  the lady in the passenger seat?  I'm not going to get old if that is
  what happens to you.

  Before she was my wife, the lady in the passenger seat got REALLY
  excited one day when I punched my 68 Vette up to 145 MPH... She
  actually screamed louder than the exhaust! She screamed some more when
  I told her that it would go faster still. (Its top end was 160.)

  --
  Kent
  1960 Bugeye
  1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
  Suggested annual donation  $12.75
  Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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Larry Macy
78 Midget


Keep your top down and your chin up.


Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club


Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and
you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Mar 13 18:59:59 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:59:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Virtual Trip to England
In-Reply-To: <4B9C3907.2040501@justbrits.com>
References: <bd466.3f89e2f6.38cbef20@aol.com> <4B9C3907.2040501@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <2D8B5DB3A5FA4B58AFFBA642666FA83D@Home>

> << On Google maps/multimap/streemap you can see my daughter's
> blue paddling pool in the garden. >>

It gets really spooky.  A friend found her sister taking groceries in from 
the car.  You can see mangos on our tree in Honolulu.  When our daughter 
moved into a new appartment,  we clicked our way along the roads so see what 
facilities, markets, restaurants, etc. are available within walking 
distance. This technology boggles the mind.  Not only is Big Brother 
watching; so is everyone else.  (Contact me off-list if you can't figure out 
how this works.)

Michael Rowe 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Mar 13 19:02:42 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:02:42 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Queen's English Car Show Tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003131734k66805427ub8d86ca63f1ea6b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C7C183C2.2509A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I'm afraid I'll have to miss it this year because I just had prostate
surgery.  Since this is the first I've heard of it, it would have been
unlikely anyway.  Why do they always keep it such a secret? How many of you
knew it was tomorrow?
BZ

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Mar 13 19:33:54 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 18:33:54 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Queen's English Car Show Tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <C7C183C2.2509A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <d49b03131003131734k66805427ub8d86ca63f1ea6b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<C7C183C2.2509A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003131833u1a191d7hac4c8ae2b82cb6e1@mail.gmail.com>

I got a flyer in the mail, but that's because I attended last year.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> I'm afraid I'll have to miss it this year because I just had prostate
> surgery.  Since this is the first I've heard of it, it would have been
> unlikely anyway.  Why do they always keep it such a secret? How many of you
> knew it was tomorrow?
> BZ

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 13 20:14:11 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:14:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Speed Traps
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003131914l7bb68f4ev38aaa66688fa1c15@mail.gmail.com>

*Speed Traps (No Joke)*

*This is for real.....in much detail.*
**
*Even to the description of the unmarked cars used for layering and
ticketing in all states.*
**
*This is interesting.*
**
*Click on what ever state you want and then it will show the city or towns
you want to view, click on which one you want to view see if you know any of
them.*
**
*You can see them in the cities in the U.S. or Canada.*
**
*Very interesting.*
**
*SPEED TRAPS - NO JOKE...CHECK IT OUT!*
**
*Do you know the speed-traps in your hometown?*

*http://www.speedtrap.org/*
*
*

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 13 20:29:41 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:29:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Queen's English Car Show Tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <C7C183C2.2509A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <217478.5867.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> Why do they always keep it such a
> secret? 

This coming from the man who just finally told the list he had prostate cancer? 

Signed,
Dr. Soave's brother

From peter at nosimport.com  Sat Mar 13 21:41:41 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:41:41 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>
	<201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201003132041319.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

WOW..... didjall just see the Sat. Nite Live opening skit?


At 02:15 PM 3/13/2010, DAVID GROPPER wrote:
>And I have a Honda Civic Hybrid for the same reason..
>
>The excitement comes from my Spridgets  ;-))
>
>Dave G.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Mar 13 22:05:42 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:05:42 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Queen's English Car Show Tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <217478.5867.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C7C183C2.2509A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<217478.5867.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003132105i1959f937t50f05bf902b62b26@mail.gmail.com>

Crap! That didn't even occur to me.  I certainly hope you're O.K. Billy.
Sometimes my brain is just not in gear.
Mike Maclean

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On Sat, 3/13/10, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> > Why do they always keep it such a
> > secret?
>
> This coming from the man who just finally told the list he had prostate
> cancer?
>
> Signed,
> Dr. Soave's brother

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Mar 13 22:39:24 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:39:24 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <201003132041319.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>
	<201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<201003132041319.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <435629.61797.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Not yet here in PNW...  only 9:30 here..
WHat's to look out for??

 Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> 
> WOW..... didjall just see the Sat. Nite Live opening skit?

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Mar 13 22:45:42 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:45:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] question re: Spridget hood.
Message-ID: <623563.80311.qm@web84204.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

My '65's bonnet has only the two inner bolts fitted on each side where the hinge is fixed to the bonnet..
The two outer holes in the bonnet on each side are just that... holes!
No captive nut or anything..

It has the hinges that the BMC workshop manual says is for the UK market --- not the 'scissor' type.
I'd weld the sucker, but then I would not be able to easily remove the 
bonnet.

I need suggestions on how to fix this, someway to get bolts in the outer holes on each side, would be welcome...

Dave G.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Mar 13 23:59:11 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:59:11 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] Limited Edition of "The Spritely Years"
Message-ID: <d49b03131003132259i3fe99549k2ff3b639b3e2058a@mail.gmail.com>

I don't remember who it was last week that mentioned the limited edition run
of "The Spritely Years" that Tom Coulthard is in charge of in Great
Britain.  I don't remember if it was even on this list that someone said
something, (a function of age I guess) but I contacted Tom and ordered one
of the books which has a limited run of 500 copies and is signed by both
authors.  Tom said it was printed from the original negatives, not scanned
electronicaly so the picture quality would remain as good as the original.
When I ordered 3 days ago via Paypal, Tom had 20 copies left.  I wouldn't
waste any time getting hold of him if you were thinking of getting one of
these.  The cost was $91.13 when Paypal converted from Pounds for me
including shipping.  This is going to be great seeing how I have not read
the book before.  Tom's can be reached at email address:
spritelyyears at btinternet.com
No financial interest, just a satisfied consumer...
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 14 00:04:26 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:04:26 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 practice question
Message-ID: <615370.6585.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Caught about the last half of qualifying for Bahrain and a few minutes of
practice on Friday morning before work... Did anybody else notice that the
cars look longer this year?  I could see it on lots of cars, but it
particularly stood out on those red ones because of the Marlboro UPC code on
the sail behind the intake scoop. I know they are not allowed to refuel this
year, could it be that the extra fuel made it necessary to stretch the
wheelbase?  Either that or I need to adjust the TV set...

David Booker
Rabid
F1 junky about to get his long-overdue fix
Long Island

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 14 00:09:09 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:09:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Spridgets] [____9issa] Truth is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <4B9C3EF0.6060502@comcast.net>
References: <4B9C3EF0.6060502@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <286384.1960.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wonder what the guy who was supposed to be steering was looking at...



http://wjz.com/watercooler/driving.shaving.crash.2.1542152.html

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 04:27:33 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 05:27:33 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] [____9issa] Truth is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <286384.1960.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4B9C3EF0.6060502@comcast.net>
	<286384.1960.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003140427x1f0fca8eoebd340db94bdb9f9@mail.gmail.com>

After seeing her mugshot, looking down "might" have been an improvement....

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:09 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wonder what the guy who was supposed to be steering was looking at...
>
>
>
> http://wjz.com/watercooler/driving.shaving.crash.2.1542152.html
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Mar 14 08:15:44 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:15:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] question re: Spridget hood.
In-Reply-To: <623563.80311.qm@web84204.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <623563.80311.qm@web84204.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W576B107107BF7AE12F3A60CA2F0@phx.gbl>

Dave
You simply have a late model hood on your car.
I have had the same situation many times and just used the two bolts, no
problem.
Bill

> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:45:42 -0800
> From: kk7ss at verizon.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] question re: Spridget hood.
>
> My '65's bonnet has only the two inner bolts fitted on each side where the
hinge is fixed to the bonnet..
> The two outer holes in the bonnet on each side are just that... holes!
> No captive nut or anything..
>
> It has the hinges that the BMC workshop manual says is for the UK market ---
not the 'scissor' type.
> I'd weld the sucker, but then I would not be able to easily remove the
> bonnet.
>
> I need suggestions on how to fix this, someway to get bolts in the outer
holes on each side, would be welcome...
>
> Dave G.
> _______________________________________________
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 14 09:16:59 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:16:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for DS Outer Rocker Front 6" as a patch
 panel
In-Reply-To: <597064.37787.qm@web34204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <557909.90394.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Jim,
Frank pretty much summed it up, but I did a bit differently. I made a
cardboard template and then transferred it to wood to make a forming block,
and then cut another piece for clamping. Originally I used 1" hardwood, sanded
the edges to a radius, and it works for left and right hand. It is easy to
knock over a 1/2" flange in light gauge steel, and there really isn't any
compound curves. I had to cut the blocks from 3/4" plywood recently when I
couldn't find the hardwood and it worked just fine. Here are some pics from
the last rocker repair;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastvee/
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sat, 3/13/10, James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: James Gruber <thistle_3619 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for DS Outer Rocker Front 6" as a patch panel
To: "Spridgets Digest" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, March 13, 2010, 12:58 PM

I need to patch the very front of my DS Outer Rocker right behind the wheel.
I
need about the first 4" or so of the rocker so I can weld in a patch. DPO
replaced rockers but left in primer and never painted properly for an unknown
period of time. Over past 10 years, in spite of being garaged most of the
time, portion has rusted totally through. I will likely fabricate a piece but
getting that compound curve and right angle bend will be tricky. Anyway if
anyone has a scrap piece or rocker for DS please e-mail me off line as
thistle_3619 at yahoo.com.
Jim GruberDayton, OHBugsy '68 Sprite that thinks he's a BE
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 14 09:38:44 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 09:38:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] question re: Spridget hood.
In-Reply-To: <623563.80311.qm@web84204.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <680393.4729.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Dave,
If the hole is not slotted, and is 3/8" or less in diameter, you can use nut
inserts. There is an insertion tool required, but I have always made my own
tool for the smaller sizes. They hold very well when installed correctly.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#threaded-inserts/=67ripo
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sun, 3/14/10, DAVID GROPPER <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

From: DAVID GROPPER <kk7ss at verizon.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] question re: Spridget hood.
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 12:45 AM

My '65's bonnet has only the two inner bolts fitted on each side where the
hinge is fixed to the bonnet..
The two outer holes in the bonnet on each side are just that... holes!
No captive nut or anything..

It has the hinges that the BMC workshop manual says is for the UK market ---
not the 'scissor' type.
I'd weld the sucker, but then I would not be able to easily remove the
bonnet.

I need suggestions on how to fix this, someway to get bolts in the outer holes
on each side, would be welcome...

Dave G.
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 10:32:25 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 12:32:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 practice question
In-Reply-To: <615370.6585.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <615370.6585.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003141032s384e9d65kacacf9779483166a@mail.gmail.com>

David,

I watched both the practice and qualifying (I've got the race on my Tivo so
don't tell me who won). I don't recall them saying anything about where or
how the cars are carrying all the extra fuel but I agree that the cars did
look longer than last year.  There appeared to have been a lot of changes in
the carbon fiber rear ends - possibly spurred by last years discovery of the
impact of the rear defusers. Just before qualifying began (and before parc
ferme) one of the teams was seen taking a hacksaw to the barge boards!!  Bet
the aerodynamicist had a heart attack over that!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:04 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Caught about the last half of qualifying for Bahrain and a few minutes of
> practice on Friday morning before work... Did anybody else notice that the
> cars look longer this year?  I could see it on lots of cars, but it
> particularly stood out on those red ones because of the Marlboro UPC code
> on
> the sail behind the intake scoop. I know they are not allowed to refuel
> this
> year, could it be that the extra fuel made it necessary to stretch the
> wheelbase?  Either that or I need to adjust the TV set...
>
> David Booker
> Rabid
> F1 junky about to get his long-overdue fix
> Long Island
> _______________________________________________
>
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Mar 14 11:11:12 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] question re: Spridget hood.
In-Reply-To: <680393.4729.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <680393.4729.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <500091.37567.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

John,

Thanks for the link. I had a look and, wow, there's a lot of different types.
The holes are less than 3/8" diam. and are not slotted. But there are 'blind' in the semse that I can't get behind the sheet metal   ;-(
Any recommendation as to which one I should use for use in sheet metal?

 Dave G.


>
>From: fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com>
>
>
>If the hole is not slotted, and is 3/8" or less in diameter, you can use nut inserts. There is an insertion tool required, but I have always made my own tool for the smaller sizes. They hold very well when installed correctly. 
>http://www.mcmaster.com/#threaded-inserts/=67ripo

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 14 13:01:25 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:01:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [____9issa] Truth is stranger than fiction
In-Reply-To: <286384.1960.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4B9C3EF0.6060502@comcast.net>
	<286384.1960.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B9D4095.7020909@justbrits.com>

<< Wonder what the guy who was supposed to be steering was looking at...

http://wjz.com/watercooler/driving.shaving.crash.2.1542152.html>>

Judging by the 'face' that goes with the article David,
the ROAD !!!!			LOL !!

The "road" HAD to look BETTER !!!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 14 13:03:51 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:03:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <201003132041319.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>
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<< didjall just see the Sat. Nite Live opening skit? >>

Good grief Peter, YOU watch that show that purports
to be "funny" ????

As far as I am concerned, it went off the air a decade
or more ago !!  Sure isn't funny anymore.

From teachjp at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 13:16:37 2010
From: teachjp at gmail.com (John Poynton)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 16:16:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 practice question
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003141032s384e9d65kacacf9779483166a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <615370.6585.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e1003141032s384e9d65kacacf9779483166a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e27b5cac1003141316m1d060448lc89415dea404a290@mail.gmail.com>

The race was still on when I got home from church.  There is no refueling
permitted in F 1 this year.  Don't know what prompted it, but they
repeatedly said that several of the drivers were instructed to save fuel.
Peace,
JP

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> David,
>
> I watched both the practice and qualifying (I've got the race on my Tivo so
> don't tell me who won). I don't recall them saying anything about where or
> how the cars are carrying all the extra fuel but I agree that the cars did
> look longer than last year.  There appeared to have been a lot of changes
> in
> the carbon fiber rear ends - possibly spurred by last years discovery of
> the
> impact of the rear defusers. Just before qualifying began (and before parc
> ferme) one of the teams was seen taking a hacksaw to the barge boards!!
>  Bet
> the aerodynamicist had a heart attack over that!!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:04 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Caught about the last half of qualifying for Bahrain and a few minutes of
> > practice on Friday morning before work... Did anybody else notice that
> the
> > cars look longer this year?  I could see it on lots of cars, but it
> > particularly stood out on those red ones because of the Marlboro UPC code
> > on
> > the sail behind the intake scoop. I know they are not allowed to refuel
> > this
> > year, could it be that the extra fuel made it necessary to stretch the
> > wheelbase?  Either that or I need to adjust the TV set...
> >
> > David Booker
> > Rabid
> > F1 junky about to get his long-overdue fix
> > Long Island
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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> >
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>  In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
> shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
>       John Adams
>       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
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From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 14 13:38:29 2010
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:38:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuild A Frames
Message-ID: <62288.92641.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I heard contrary to rumor that Peter C is not doing rebuild/rebushing of A
Frames. Anyone on the list got a source of someone who has reamer and tooling
to redo / repair. I'm told $180 a side will get you a new made in England
heavy duty A Frame. Trying to calculate the repair cost vs. buy new and feel
safer. 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Mar 14 13:48:47 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:48:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 practice question
In-Reply-To: <e27b5cac1003141316m1d060448lc89415dea404a290@mail.gmail.com>
References: <615370.6585.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e1003141032s384e9d65kacacf9779483166a@mail.gmail.com>
	<e27b5cac1003141316m1d060448lc89415dea404a290@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9B8CEBA6A5264CBF9CA7C838B2CFB6C4@spider>

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/04/30/how-new-rules-will-change-2010-f1-cars
/

 

.bill in Oregon

===============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Poynton
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 1:17 PM
To: Jim Johnson
Cc: spridget
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] F1 practice question

 

The race was still on when I got home from church.  There is no refueling

permitted in F 1 this year.  Don't know what prompted it, but they

repeatedly said that several of the drivers were instructed to save fuel.

Peace,

JP

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Mar 14 14:08:27 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:08:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <4B9D4127.3080606@justbrits.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>,
	<201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>,
	<201003132041319.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<4B9D4127.3080606@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W3657365651BB0B7DA8B5F6B82F0@phx.gbl>

You've probably just aged, Ed!  :)

Robert Duquette


> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:03:51 -0500
> From: shop at justbrits.com

>
> << didjall just see the Sat. Nite Live opening skit? >>
>
> Good grief Peter, YOU watch that show that purports
> to be "funny" ????
>
> As far as I am concerned, it went off the air a decade
> or more ago !! Sure isn't funny anymore.

From gmuttart at eastlink.ca  Sun Mar 14 14:20:02 2010
From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca (Geoff Muttart)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:20:02 -0300
Subject: [Spridgets] Floorpan drains
In-Reply-To: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>
References: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>
Message-ID: <0A8AF0E062D1423EBDF52B06088D55F9@FAMILY>

Michael

There may be info in the archives about this.  Years ago I posted
dimensions, etc., for the pans, and I may have included this info, too.  My
body guy used a sharp edge (chisel, maybe?) to punch the slot and shape it
downward.  I was there when he did it (and may have even done it myself),
but I can't recall exactly what tool we used.

Any info I may have had about proper placement of the drain holes would have
been in that post.  I took the measurements from original floors.

Good luck.

Geoff Muttart
Nova Scotia
Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Rowe [mailto:mdrowe at optonline.net] 
Sent: March 10, 2010 5:18 PM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Floorpan drains

Does anyone have experience putting drain holes in the floor pans?  How
many, how big, where?  Must they have protection from road splash, or is it
better just to let the water slosh in and out?

Today, I finished the last of the metal work on my BE tub - replacing an
inner fender - and I will soon start stripping and painting.  I must bring
it home to the big 240v compressor and work in the yard, which is subject to
salt spray in storms - not the best environment - so I expect to work in
sections, stripping, priming, and  painting all but the finished top-sides,
which I can do in a cleaner place with my small 120v compressor.  All advice
is gratefully accepted.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprint kit
Long Island, NY

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Mar 14 14:37:23 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:37:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuild A Frames
In-Reply-To: <62288.92641.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <62288.92641.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B9D5713.6000607@comcast.net>

James Gruber wrote:
> I heard contrary to rumor that Peter C is not doing rebuild/rebushing of A
> Frames. Anyone on the list got a source of someone who has reamer and tooling
> to redo / repair. I'm told $180 a side will get you a new made in England
> heavy duty A Frame. Trying to calculate the repair cost vs. buy new and feel
> safer. 
>   
Any machine shop can ream these bushings.
They just have to do it in 2 steps.
Set it up in their jig, ream the small hole then ream the large hole.
I watched my machinist do it a few times for me this way.
And then there was Peter's way out at the Buster Cluster, it worked.
I'll let him explain that one.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 14 16:33:15 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:33:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 practice question
In-Reply-To: <e27b5cac1003141316m1d060448lc89415dea404a290@mail.gmail.com>
References: <615370.6585.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e1003141032s384e9d65kacacf9779483166a@mail.gmail.com>
	<e27b5cac1003141316m1d060448lc89415dea404a290@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B9D723B.5050108@justbrits.com>

<< repeatedly said that several of the drivers were instructed
to save fuel. >>

Made things MORE boring then usual IMHO, John !!
Got TIRED of hearing it and changed channels.

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 14 16:49:06 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:49:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W3657365651BB0B7DA8B5F6B82F0@phx.gbl>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>,
	<201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>,
	<201003132041319.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<4B9D4127.3080606@justbrits.com>
	<BAY112-W3657365651BB0B7DA8B5F6B82F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4B9D75F2.7050405@justbrits.com>

<< You've probably just aged, Ed! >>

JUST like YOU & fine wine, RD !!

<G>

Only I do it FAR better !!!  LOL
ZERO chance of "sour grapes" !!!!

Ed

PS:  And BOY, should THIS post "start sumpthink" !!!
.........LMAO

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 16:54:57 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:54:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Gas Pedal rant
In-Reply-To: <4B9D75F2.7050405@justbrits.com>
References: <1dc97.5b1342bf.38cd1fbc@aol.com>,
	<201003131203242.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, 
	<257100.76709.qm@web84202.mail.re3.yahoo.com>,
	<201003132041319.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, 
	<4B9D4127.3080606@justbrits.com>
	<BAY112-W3657365651BB0B7DA8B5F6B82F0@phx.gbl> 
	<4B9D75F2.7050405@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <-7529866081032228508@unknownmsgid>

> JUST like YOU & fine wine, RD !!
>
> <G>
>
> Only I do it FAR better !!!  LOL
> ZERO chance of "sour grapes" !!!!

Someone is a bit confused here. Last I checked, Miller Lite did not
get any better with age either.
David L

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 14 16:58:03 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:58:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] RM Auctions]
Message-ID: <4B9D780B.8040507@justbrits.com>

 From the Big Healey's List !!!!!

-------- Original Message --------

G'day

For those who follow such things Bill Emerson's Healey Westland sold at the
RM Auctions for a staggering US$159,500.
An excellent result for anyone interested in real Healeys.

A 100M was passed in at US$100,000, Sebring Sprite sold for US$44,000, Nash
Healey Roadster sold for US$85,500 and an A90 Atlantic sold for US$41,250.

It's at www.rmauctions.com

Hoo Roo

Patrick Q.
Sydney, Australia
_______________________________________________
Healeys.....at.....autox.team.net

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sun Mar 14 18:23:36 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:23:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
Message-ID: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>

270540852062   Nice car that you couldn't do for his asking price.  Only thing
he really fell down on is the underside.  If you are going to go to that
length why not make the underside equally nice?  Look at the front crosmember.
Details like that make you wonder on other aspects of the car.

Leo

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Mar 14 18:41:53 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:41:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
References: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <4977613C1D4040CD8CA24908C16A52EB@blackbox2>

This one was a better deal where the underside was done:
ebay #250587845933,  it went for $14999

The seller for the one you mention is taking offers.
Maybe you can show him the above and whittle him down to $12k.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:23 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye


> 270540852062   Nice car that you couldn't do for his asking price.  Only thing
> he really fell down on is the underside.  If you are going to go to that
> length why not make the underside equally nice?  Look at the front crosmember.
> Details like that make you wonder on other aspects of the car.
> 
> Leo

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Mar 14 18:51:01 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:51:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
Message-ID: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>

I started out doing the final buffing to my Sprite after it's paint job 
which I thought was pretty good.
I found tiger stripes and something was on the buffing pad that made 
deep swirl marks in the paint all over the rear deck.
So not much could be done except sand it all down and  repaint it if the 
rain ever stops.
Bummer #1.
And the engine is all nice and rebuilt and painted and installed so I 
had to plastic it up real good so I do not get any overspray on it.
Bummer #2
I went to remove the sway bar to clean it and paint it black before 
installing the new links when one side dropped off the frame after I 
undid the other side.
I had ripped it out but never new about it.
Oh I know when I did it. BABE Rally send off, I was leaving Staten 
Island after the team took off for New Orleans when I hit a New York pot 
hole at 55 mph and I thought it swallowed the Sprite. I blew out a shock 
and busted a sway bar ling on the pot hole and fixed those things. But I 
always had a clunk every now and then. Now I know what it was, ripped 
out mounting bracket for the sway bar.
Bummer #3
So tonight while putzing with some small brackets, new air horns, and 
stuff, I decide to clean the ribbed rubber inner door liners.
They cleaned up nice but were sort of permanently wrinkled from being 
loose on the door skin over the years.
My bright idea was to set the powder coat oven to "warm" and heat the 
mats and maybe lay them under some weight on a flat surface to iron them 
back to flat.
So how hot is "warm" on an oven? My wife WARMS rolls in her oven, they 
never toast so I figure "warm" should do it.
5 minutes later smoke is bellowing out of the oven, I open the door and 
find flames, my door liners are burning up.
I can not blow out the flames, I turned off the oven and shut the door.
No good, black burning rubber smoke fills the upstairs of the garage and 
I can't breathe.
I reach for the fire extinguisher and the pin does not pull out easily 
so I grab pliers and rip out the pin, open the oven and pull the trigger.
Nothing! Nada! no squirt. So,  Oh Sheet! Now what?
I am choking on black smoke, can't breathe, open up a window and try to 
breathe, run down stairs to grab another extinguisher but have to catch 
my breath to make it back up the steps.
Grab a rag to put around my face, the upstairs looks like a tire plant 
on fire with black smoke filling it up.
I think to myself, this is bad. I go up and pull the pin, squeeze the 
trigger at the fire and the extinguisher works. It only took a split 
second to kill the fire but the smoke was there to stay.
I opened all the windows, turned on 3 fans, opened the overhead door and 
came in for a Bucca.
When I went back out, the smoke cleared but I lost my only set of ribbed 
rubber door liners.
Bummer #4

Moral of the story, do NOT believe the gauge on your fire extinguisher, 
mine read "good" in the green but it didn't do squat.
It was probably the one I got on sale from home effin DEFECT.
Guys, go buy a fire extinguisher from a fire house or gas supply company.
If this defective extinguisher was my only one, I would have a really 
big mess on my hands since a rubber fire is not easy to put out.
It could have been a fuel fire or paint supplies, or the interior of my car.
Check your equipment and have a back up. PLEASE!
I still have 2 extinguishers in the garage even after using one and 
finding the dead one. I have a couple in the house too.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From richb at u.washington.edu  Sun Mar 14 18:51:23 2010
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:51:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] question re: Spridget hood.
References: <680393.4729.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<500091.37567.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <6F004831361A4C71A3946834329DDCC3@m275laptop>

Dave

Remember, I have a '69 hood that I picked up for you last spring.  It's here 
at my place in Everett.  It may need a little work, but it was free.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

From: "DAVID GROPPER" <kk7ss at verizon.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] question re: Spridget hood.


> John,
>
> Thanks for the link. I had a look and, wow, there's a lot of different 
> types.
> The holes are less than 3/8" diam. and are not slotted. But there are 
> 'blind' in the semse that I can't get behind the sheet metal   ;-(
> Any recommendation as to which one I should use for use in sheet metal?
>
> Dave G.
>
>
>>
>>From: fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com>
>>
>>
>>If the hole is not slotted, and is 3/8" or less in diameter, you can use 
>>nut inserts. There is an insertion tool required, but I have always made 
>>my own tool for the smaller sizes. They hold very well when installed 
>>correctly.
>>http://www.mcmaster.com/#threaded-inserts/=67ripo
> _______________________________________________
>
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar 14 18:57:39 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:57:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <4977613C1D4040CD8CA24908C16A52EB@blackbox2>
References: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<4977613C1D4040CD8CA24908C16A52EB@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003141857m45444570q1bebfe5d6ebf31c0@mail.gmail.com>

I was at the Queen's English car show today with my Bugeye.  A guy walked up
to me and asked what a car like mine was worth.  I just threw a figure of
$15,000.  He actually asked if I wanted to sell it on the spot.  I was just
telling him that to throw him off, but he called me on it.  I said I would
have to think about it, so he left me his phone number and said to call
anytime.  I don't know if he was serious or not, but...
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> This one was a better deal where the underside was done:
> ebay #250587845933,  it went for $14999
>
> The seller for the one you mention is taking offers.
> Maybe you can show him the above and whittle him down to $12k.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 9:23 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
>
>
>
>  270540852062   Nice car that you couldn't do for his asking price.  Only
>> thing
>> he really fell down on is the underside.  If you are going to go to that
>> length why not make the underside equally nice?  Look at the front
>> crosmember.
>> Details like that make you wonder on other aspects of the car.
>>
>> Leo
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Mar 14 19:00:53 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:00:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
References: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B545AE37AF7142939FCB5B6DFBD5DC64@HomePC>

Frank, you are way too funny.  If this wasn't so serious, it would be a 
riot.

You need to write for a comedian.

Looking forward to your next visit!


Larry




--------------------------------------------------
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 8:51 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage

I started out doing the final buffing to my Sprite after it's paint job
which I thought was pretty good.
I found tiger stripes and something was on the buffing pad that made
deep swirl marks in the paint all over the rear deck.
So not much could be done except sand it all down and  repaint it if the
rain ever stops.
Bummer #1.
And the engine is all nice and rebuilt and painted and installed so I
had to plastic it up real good so I do not get any overspray on it.
Bummer #2
I went to remove the sway bar to clean it and paint it black before
installing the new links when one side dropped off the frame after I
undid the other side.
I had ripped it out but never new about it.
Oh I know when I did it. BABE Rally send off, I was leaving Staten
Island after the team took off for New Orleans when I hit a New York pot
hole at 55 mph and I thought it swallowed the Sprite. I blew out a shock
and busted a sway bar ling on the pot hole and fixed those things. But I
always had a clunk every now and then. Now I know what it was, ripped
out mounting bracket for the sway bar.
Bummer #3
So tonight while putzing with some small brackets, new air horns, and
stuff, I decide to clean the ribbed rubber inner door liners.
They cleaned up nice but were sort of permanently wrinkled from being
loose on the door skin over the years.
My bright idea was to set the powder coat oven to "warm" and heat the
mats and maybe lay them under some weight on a flat surface to iron them
back to flat.
So how hot is "warm" on an oven? My wife WARMS rolls in her oven, they
never toast so I figure "warm" should do it.
5 minutes later smoke is bellowing out of the oven, I open the door and
find flames, my door liners are burning up.
I can not blow out the flames, I turned off the oven and shut the door.
No good, black burning rubber smoke fills the upstairs of the garage and
I can't breathe.
I reach for the fire extinguisher and the pin does not pull out easily
so I grab pliers and rip out the pin, open the oven and pull the trigger.
Nothing! Nada! no squirt. So,  Oh Sheet! Now what?
I am choking on black smoke, can't breathe, open up a window and try to
breathe, run down stairs to grab another extinguisher but have to catch
my breath to make it back up the steps.
Grab a rag to put around my face, the upstairs looks like a tire plant
on fire with black smoke filling it up.
I think to myself, this is bad. I go up and pull the pin, squeeze the
trigger at the fire and the extinguisher works. It only took a split
second to kill the fire but the smoke was there to stay.
I opened all the windows, turned on 3 fans, opened the overhead door and
came in for a Bucca.
When I went back out, the smoke cleared but I lost my only set of ribbed
rubber door liners.
Bummer #4

Moral of the story, do NOT believe the gauge on your fire extinguisher,
mine read "good" in the green but it didn't do squat.
It was probably the one I got on sale from home effin DEFECT.
Guys, go buy a fire extinguisher from a fire house or gas supply company.
If this defective extinguisher was my only one, I would have a really
big mess on my hands since a rubber fire is not easy to put out.
It could have been a fuel fire or paint supplies, or the interior of my car.
Check your equipment and have a back up. PLEASE!
I still have 2 extinguishers in the garage even after using one and
finding the dead one. I have a couple in the house too.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 19:05:47 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:05:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003141857m45444570q1bebfe5d6ebf31c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<4977613C1D4040CD8CA24908C16A52EB@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003141857m45444570q1bebfe5d6ebf31c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003141905p22c54256y5861bf9a7cec748@mail.gmail.com>

> I was at the Queen's English car show today with my Bugeye.  A guy walked
up
> to me and asked what a car like mine was worth.  I just threw a figure of
> $15,000.  He actually asked if I wanted to sell it on the spot.  I was just
> telling him that to throw him off, but he called me on it.  I said I would
> have to think about it, so he left me his phone number and said to call
> anytime.  I don't know if he was serious or not, but...

Mike,
I know it sounded like you said $15,000 but you REALLY said $50,000.
Right? Make sure he did not misunderstand you...
David L

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Mar 14 19:05:51 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:05:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003141857m45444570q1bebfe5d6ebf31c0@mail.gmail.com>
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Ask him if he's owned a British car before.
If yes, sell it to him if $15k is good for you.
...bill in oregon
============================================
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer
@dslextreme.com
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 6:58 PM
To: Dean Hedin
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye

I was at the Queen's English car show today with my Bugeye.  A guy walked up
to me and asked what a car like mine was worth.  I just threw a figure of
$15,000.  He actually asked if I wanted to sell it on the spot.  I was just
telling him that to throw him off, but he called me on it.  I said I would
have to think about it, so he left me his phone number and said to call
anytime.  I don't know if he was serious or not, but...
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 14 19:30:07 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:30:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <402188521003141905p22c54256y5861bf9a7cec748@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4977613C1D4040CD8CA24908C16A52EB@blackbox2>
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<< I know it sounded like you said $15,000 but you REALLY said $50,000.
Right? Make sure he did not misunderstand you... >>

I hope YOU are right, David !!!

Would seem that Mike has forgotten that he actually has
one of the rarer Frogeyes;  N.B. NOT white !!!

Mike, please tell me I AM correct ?!?!?

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 14 19:35:46 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:35:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
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<< Looking forward to your next visit! >>

Larry, are you SURE about that ?!?!?!?

Seems Frank has inherited "a little black cloud" which
is hanging above his head and FOLLOWING him where
EVER he goes !?!?!?!

YIKES, Frank - STAY in Joisey !!!  Please !!!!

<G>

Glad all ended well !!!  Look at the plus side;  garage
does't have YOUR bedroom over it !!!  The Lady Di
would be REALLY pi**ed methinks<G> !!

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar 14 19:37:22 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:37:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <402188521003141905p22c54256y5861bf9a7cec748@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<4977613C1D4040CD8CA24908C16A52EB@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003141857m45444570q1bebfe5d6ebf31c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188521003141905p22c54256y5861bf9a7cec748@mail.gmail.com>
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If I had said $50K I would not be bringing it home.
Mike

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:05 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I was at the Queen's English car show today with my Bugeye.  A guy walked
> up
> > to me and asked what a car like mine was worth.  I just threw a figure of
> > $15,000.  He actually asked if I wanted to sell it on the spot.  I was
> just
> > telling him that to throw him off, but he called me on it.  I said I
> would
> > have to think about it, so he left me his phone number and said to call
> > anytime.  I don't know if he was serious or not, but...
>
> Mike,
> I know it sounded like you said $15,000 but you REALLY said $50,000.
> Right? Make sure he did not misunderstand you...
> David L
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 20:15:03 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:15:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003142015q5252ac9dmeea85d07522cdc15@mail.gmail.com>

Notice the temperature gauge is in the head and not the radiator?

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 20:37:52 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:37:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
References: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <FE9B594B-E4A8-495C-B3AC-D9DE703F134C@gmail.com>

On Mar 14, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Frank wrote:
>
> Check your equipment and have a back up. PLEASE!
>


Exactly what Frank said!

I've had a fire in my house.  It's NOT any fun!!!   A NEW (Chinese  
manufactured) window  fan caught fire within 2 hours of being  
purchased.  Fortunately, I had numerous quality fire extinguishers on  
hand at the time of the fire.  I used 6 fire extinguishers on the  
melted plastic fire to knock it down until the fire department got  
here.   I'm 2 blocks from the fire department and if I wouldn't have  
had fire extinguishers - my house would have burned to the ground.

My house is big (6000 sqft) and I have 10 fire extinguishers  
throughout the house and 3 in the garage.

You NEED Quality smoke detectors and extinguishers. This is not a  
place to scrimp........

Kevin V.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 21:21:24 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:21:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <FE9B594B-E4A8-495C-B3AC-D9DE703F134C@gmail.com>
References: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
	<FE9B594B-E4A8-495C-B3AC-D9DE703F134C@gmail.com>
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Kevin,
Was this fire recently?
Herb

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Mar 14, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Frank wrote:
> >
> > Check your equipment and have a back up. PLEASE!
> >
>
>
> Exactly what Frank said!
>
> I've had a fire in my house.  It's NOT any fun!!!   A NEW (Chinese
> manufactured) window  fan caught fire within 2 hours of being
> purchased.  Fortunately, I had numerous quality fire extinguishers on
> hand at the time of the fire.  I used 6 fire extinguishers on the
> melted plastic fire to knock it down until the fire department got
> here.   I'm 2 blocks from the fire department and if I wouldn't have
> had fire extinguishers - my house would have burned to the ground.
>
> My house is big (6000 sqft) and I have 10 fire extinguishers
> throughout the house and 3 in the garage.
>
> You NEED Quality smoke detectors and extinguishers. This is not a
> place to scrimp........
>
> Kevin V.
> __________________

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 21:23:59 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 00:23:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b11003142121l7b68c258y3652b40645f944@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
	<FE9B594B-E4A8-495C-B3AC-D9DE703F134C@gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b11003142121l7b68c258y3652b40645f944@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:21 AM, WFO Herb wrote:

> Kevin,
> Was this fire recently?
> Herb



Last year,  but it's still fresh in my mind....

Kevin

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar 14 22:39:32 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:39:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <FE9B594B-E4A8-495C-B3AC-D9DE703F134C@gmail.com>
References: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
	<FE9B594B-E4A8-495C-B3AC-D9DE703F134C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003142239g439ff4d5h8541f8469083c0ad@mail.gmail.com>

6000 sq feet?!? What, do you have a whole apartment building to yourself?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
Now suddenly claustrophobic in his 1200 Sq foot house.


On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> My house is big (6000 sqft) and I have 10 fire extinguishers
> throughout the house and 3 in the garage.

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sun Mar 14 23:14:34 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:14:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] re bad day in the grage
Message-ID: <016779429D914EF885EB0C08F001F323@leovs802bt6yj7>

  Really strange that you had a fire today Frank and sorry to hear about it.
Today must have been fire day. This morning, 3:00 am, I awoke to the sound of
a smoke detector and smoke in the air with a vary strong arid smoke smell.
Boom, on my feet and out the bedroom door and what do I see but my wife
throwing water on a towel which is on fire along with the carpet under it.
she fell sleep or rather nodded off due to the Morphine she takes for her
cancer pain and dropped the cigarette she was smoking onto a towel which then
ignited.the carpet.  NOT a good way to wake up, nor was I in a very good mood
towards her today.  Now I have to try to work out a compromise with her that
if she wants to smoke then it has to be outside when I am not awake or not
around the house.  Hard to take away one of her pleasures.  Really freaked me
out....

Leo

Leo

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 23:39:15 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:39:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003142239g439ff4d5h8541f8469083c0ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
	<FE9B594B-E4A8-495C-B3AC-D9DE703F134C@gmail.com>
	<d49b03131003142239g439ff4d5h8541f8469083c0ad@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mar 15, 2010, at 1:39 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote:

> 6000 sq feet?!? What, do you have a whole apartment building to  
> yourself?

Mike,

It was an old grain storage building built in the late 1700's /early  
1800's.

Sometime in the early 1900's it was converted into 3 homes and a store.

I bought it about 12 years ago and began to restore it.  It now  
houses a restored home for my wife and I (1200 sqft),  my studio and  
office(600 sqft) and a renovated home for my son and his family (1200  
sqft).  The basement houses a workshop/garage and still has 1200 sqft  
of area that I haven't touched and needs renovation/restoration.   
There is also a room 22x30 on the second floor that will be a guest  
bedroom, upstairs bathroom and private office when I get around to  
finishing it.

I always have plenty to do ;)

Kevin

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 14 23:53:17 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:53:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003142239g439ff4d5h8541f8469083c0ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
	<FE9B594B-E4A8-495C-B3AC-D9DE703F134C@gmail.com>
	<d49b03131003142239g439ff4d5h8541f8469083c0ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4B9DD95D.7000500@justbrits.com>

<< 6000 sq feet?!? What, do you have a whole apartment
building to yourself? >>

Keep in mind Mike, his son [Rob] grew up, moved
out & got married SOOOO.......
    Kevin & Kathy HAD to "down-size".

Right Kev ??

Ed

<VBG>!!

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar 14 23:53:26 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:53:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <0AFA6B8F-73BC-433F-B85C-AB9A3E57A9CB@gmail.com>
References: <4B9D9285.60805@comcast.net>
	<FE9B594B-E4A8-495C-B3AC-D9DE703F134C@gmail.com>
	<d49b03131003142239g439ff4d5h8541f8469083c0ad@mail.gmail.com>
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No kidding, you always have plenty to do.  I wouldn't want to furnish
anything that big.  Must cost you a fortune in just window coverings.
Mike

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Mar 15, 2010, at 1:39 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote:
>
>  6000 sq feet?!? What, do you have a whole apartment building to yourself?
>>
>
> Mike,
>
> It was an old grain storage building built in the late 1700's /early
> 1800's.
>
> Sometime in the early 1900's it was converted into 3 homes and a store.
>
> I bought it about 12 years ago and began to restore it.  It now houses a
> restored home for my wife and I (1200 sqft),  my studio and office(600 sqft)
> and a renovated home for my son and his family (1200 sqft).  The basement
> houses a workshop/garage and still has 1200 sqft of area that I haven't
> touched and needs renovation/restoration.  There is also a room 22x30 on the
> second floor that will be a guest bedroom, upstairs bathroom and private
> office when I get around to finishing it.
>
> I always have plenty to do ;)
>
> Kevin

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 04:00:56 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:00:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Computer bugs and Surfing
In-Reply-To: <945846.54790.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <37dc82d41003121403x4d87bcacn68ed9d99c75cf582@mail.gmail.com>
	<201003121425705.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4B9AFE8B.3090301@justbrits.com>
	<2ad6c6b11003121904y19719b49nff88f44c5cd23fc8@mail.gmail.com>
	<B55BE159A2D94103BF52F33F639FBF55@Home> <4B9C1A86.8050301@comcast.net>
	<945846.54790.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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And my wife, daughter and I went on a short 12 mile bike ride yesterday in
the low 70's temps we had here in Texas.

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:25 PM, DAVID GROPPER <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> Sitting here in the Inland Pacific NW, sun's shining, about 56*F, slight
> breeze..
> Great weather... that is, until later- back down to below freezing
> tonight!!
>
>
> Just to make you feel good <G>
>
> Dave G.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>
> > Actually, this Mike R. is sitting at the computer looking out at a HUGE
> > storm with waves bashing the bulkhead and spraying salt water on the
> Midget.
> >
>
> The Jersey Shore is about the same. Power was out for 3 hours,
> But lets be glad it's not colder, they said we would have had 40
> > inches of snow if it were below freezing.
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 08:14:29 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:14:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c1003150814k1d1d0812uc36bd7bf6d84ddbe@mail.gmail.com>

> 270540852062   Nice car that you couldn't do for his asking price.  Only
thing
> he really fell down on is the underside.  If you are going to go to that
> length why not make the underside equally nice?  Look at the front
crosmember.
> Details like that make you wonder on other aspects of the car.

<sarcasm>
Yes, someone should also point out it appears there may be a small oil
leak somewhere and his exhaust pipe has some serious surface rust
issues.
</sarcasm>

Seriously guys?????

It looks like a very presentable driver, who cares if you can't eat of
the underside of the car?  I wish my car looked as nice!

Some of the comments picking apart cars on here lately have made me
double check to make sure I hadn't got resubscribed to the Triumph
list.

It's SO much nicer to appreciate someone else's car for what it is,
instead of what it isn't.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Mar 15 08:33:11 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:33:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c1003150814k1d1d0812uc36bd7bf6d84ddbe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <379098.52674.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I think the point is the asking price.

jay

--- On Mon, 3/15/10, Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:

Seriously guys?????

It looks like a very presentable driver, who cares if you can't eat of
the underside of the car? 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Mar 15 08:33:26 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:33:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c1003150814k1d1d0812uc36bd7bf6d84ddbe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<8de85a9c1003150814k1d1d0812uc36bd7bf6d84ddbe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <740280.18133.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Seconded...
The more I see of other cars the more I see of things still to do to mine  ;-)

 
Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>

> It's SO much nicer  to appreciate someone else's car for
> what it is, instead of what it isn't.

From lists at dinospider.com  Mon Mar 15 09:13:15 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (mike rambour)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:13:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Queen's English Car Show Tomorrow
In-Reply-To: <C7C183C2.2509A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C7C183C2.2509A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <1268669595.32421.1.camel@WebBrowser>

 Yeah, if it was not for some club members in Canada I would not have
known it was yesterday.

  I went with my 34 Singer but removed the Spridget engine before going
so I stayed in the Singer part of the world.

	mike

On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 18:02 -0800, Billy Zoom wrote:
> I'm afraid I'll have to miss it this year because I just had prostate
> surgery.  Since this is the first I've heard of it, it would have been
> unlikely anyway.  Why do they always keep it such a secret? How many of you
> knew it was tomorrow?

From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Mon Mar 15 09:14:47 2010
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:14:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c1003150814k1d1d0812uc36bd7bf6d84ddbe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<8de85a9c1003150814k1d1d0812uc36bd7bf6d84ddbe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001801cac45a$a2e9c310$e8bd4930$@net>

When you make statements like: 

"We are pleased to offer this beautiful Austin-Healey Bugeye Sprite in mint
condition. We believe it is one of the nicest Bugeye Sprites available in
the country. Pictures just can't capture how exceptional this car is in
person. It has been completely restored to the standards usually reserved
for the 'big' Healeys."

You are inviting arguments. They did not say "a very nice driver"
Herb Miller

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Foster
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:14 AM
To: Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye

> 270540852062   Nice car that you couldn't do for his asking price.  Only
thing
> he really fell down on is the underside.  If you are going to go to that
> length why not make the underside equally nice?  Look at the front
crosmember.
> Details like that make you wonder on other aspects of the car.

<sarcasm>
Yes, someone should also point out it appears there may be a small oil
leak somewhere and his exhaust pipe has some serious surface rust
issues.
</sarcasm>

Seriously guys?????

It looks like a very presentable driver, who cares if you can't eat of
the underside of the car?  I wish my car looked as nice!

Some of the comments picking apart cars on here lately have made me
double check to make sure I hadn't got resubscribed to the Triumph
list.

It's SO much nicer to appreciate someone else's car for what it is,
instead of what it isn't.
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Mar 15 09:15:12 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:15:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
References: <8CA3A647F21A40A3BB4255F068B28CF7@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<8de85a9c1003150814k1d1d0812uc36bd7bf6d84ddbe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8B23FE6998114774900B1E375F69AEAF@leovs802bt6yj7>

I didn't mean it as bad.  Just that if you are doing such a nice job (and it 
is NICE) then why not finish it.

Leo 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar 15 09:49:02 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:49:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Virtual Trip to England
In-Reply-To: <4B9C3907.2040501@justbrits.com>
References: <bd466.3f89e2f6.38cbef20@aol.com>, <4B9C3907.2040501@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W11C56EEBCB4F6EC6E1D068B82E0@phx.gbl>

You must get the odd baseball in that pool.

RD


> You can see mine [money pit - as bad as a yacht] by
> doing same Daniel, satellite view is best<G> !!! Use
>
> 5624 South Washington, Hinsdale, IL 60521
>
> for your 'search' <G> !!! Zoom in @ 7-8 times.
>
> Anybody that wants it may send cable-rigging Co. &
> helicopter [to take it AWAY] by appointment only,
> please. Price = FREE !!!!
>
> Ed

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 15 10:16:15 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:16:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
Message-ID: <D8830CF4C5314EFD9411355656361D81@HomePC>

Anybody getting asked to join the AutoWeek Advisory Board?  They've asked me a
couple times now.  I am a bit suspect of what it is all about.  Anybody sign
up for it?  What do you think of it?

LAD

From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Mar 15 10:23:44 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:23:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
In-Reply-To: <D8830CF4C5314EFD9411355656361D81@HomePC>
Message-ID: <251740.49535.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I've been asked a couple of times as well and just ignored the emails.

jay

--- On Mon, 3/15/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Anybody getting asked to join the AutoWeek Advisory Board?  They've asked me
a
couple times now.  I am a bit suspect of what it is all about.  Anybody sign
up for it?  What do you think of it?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 10:38:55 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:38:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
In-Reply-To: <251740.49535.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <D8830CF4C5314EFD9411355656361D81@HomePC>
	<251740.49535.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003151038v5ef3774dq6e223fa12fd4a66e@mail.gmail.com>

You must be more important than I.  I've been an AW subscriber since 1970
but they didn't ask me....  (sob!)

Cheers,
Jim

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> I've been asked a couple of times as well and just ignored the emails.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Mon, 3/15/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Anybody getting asked to join the AutoWeek Advisory Board?  They've asked
> me
> a
> couple times now.  I am a bit suspect of what it is all about.  Anybody
> sign
> up for it?  What do you think of it?
> ___________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar 15 11:06:42 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:06:42 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] e-bay bugeye
Message-ID: <527e2.195a3365.38cfd132@aol.com>

I'd wonder at a car for sale that doesn't show a single photo of the engine 
 bay.
 
In a message dated 15/03/2010 01:30:43 GMT Standard Time,  
60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:

270540852062   Nice car that you couldn't do for his  asking price.  Only 
thing
he really fell down on is the  underside.  If you are going to go to that
length why not make the  underside equally nice?  Look at the front 
crosmember.
Details like  that make you wonder on other aspects of the  car.

Leo

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar 15 11:10:20 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:10:20 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
Message-ID: <52c9b.81f9872.38cfd20c@aol.com>

Dry powder in the house (new and always in or near in date).  Dry  powder 
in the garage - always out of date as it comes from the house when the  house 
gets a new one (old one from the garage always fires). Foam in the car  
-handheld, foam in the car plumbed in.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330 
 
In a message dated 15/03/2010 01:49:08 GMT Standard Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

I still  have 2 extinguishers in the garage even after using one and 
finding the  dead one. I have a couple in the house too.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Mar 15 11:27:59 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:27:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
In-Reply-To: <D8830CF4C5314EFD9411355656361D81@HomePC>
References: <D8830CF4C5314EFD9411355656361D81@HomePC>
Message-ID: <D68AABC161004A60ABC64DB5F1A7FB63@spider>

Not me. ...bill in oregon
====================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 10:16 AM
To: Spridgets List
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board

Anybody getting asked to join the AutoWeek Advisory Board?  They've asked me
a
couple times now.  I am a bit suspect of what it is all about.  Anybody sign
up for it?  What do you think of it?

LAD
_______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar 15 11:38:23 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:38:23 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
Message-ID: <5462f.1dc67ce6.38cfd89f@aol.com>

Older kid had ours sound in sequence bottom to top of house when she set  
the toaster alight.  Kitchen was so full of smoke I had a job to find the  
back door.
 
In a message dated 15/03/2010 03:46:21 GMT Standard Time,  
kevinv1275 at gmail.com writes:

You NEED  Quality smoke detectors 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar 15 11:40:18 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:40:18 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
Message-ID: <54883.5cfdb7da.38cfd912@aol.com>

Not really you just work on a Spridget at the far end of the lounge,  
another in the guest bedroom etc.
 
In a message dated 15/03/2010 07:01:48 GMT Standard Time,  
rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes:

I  wouldn't want to furnish
anything that big.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar 15 11:47:26 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:47:26 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Floorpan drains
In-Reply-To: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>
References: <FC34F60CC80041F9995BBF895704C8E0@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W20E946D0568ECF77EB853B82E0@phx.gbl>

Hey Michael!



This ebay Bug-eye that's the current topic has a picture of the splash guards
for the drain hole!



The Bug-eye is item number 270540852062.



The last picture of the underside shows it quite clearly.



Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )


> Does anyone have experience putting drain holes in the floor pans? How many,
how big, where? Must they have protection from road splash, or is it better
just to let the water slosh in and out?
>
> Today, I finished the last of the metal work on my BE tub - replacing an
inner fender - and I will soon start stripping and painting. I must bring it
home to the big 240v compressor and work in the yard, which is subject to salt
spray in storms - not the best environment - so I expect to work in sections,
stripping, priming, and painting all but the finished top-sides, which I can
do in a cleaner place with my small 120v compressor. All advice is gratefully
accepted.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprint kit
> Long Island, NY
> _______________________________________________

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Mar 15 11:54:00 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:54:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003151038v5ef3774dq6e223fa12fd4a66e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D8830CF4C5314EFD9411355656361D81@HomePC>
	<251740.49535.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e1003151038v5ef3774dq6e223fa12fd4a66e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9ED8E0A1-4B0E-4865-AFBD-BD8F15205F80@comcast.net>

... since '78, made articles on rallies over the years.. nuttin'

Bstards.

Lester


On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> You must be more important than I.  I've been an AW subscriber since  
> 1970
> but they didn't ask me....  (sob!)
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
>
>> I've been asked a couple of times as well and just ignored the  
>> emails.
>>
>> jay
>>
>> --- On Mon, 3/15/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Anybody getting asked to join the AutoWeek Advisory Board?  They've  
>> asked
>> me
>> a
>> couple times now.  I am a bit suspect of what it is all about.   
>> Anybody
>> sign
>> up for it?  What do you think of it?
>> ___________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Mon Mar 15 11:55:28 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:55:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <54883.5cfdb7da.38cfd912@aol.com>
References: <54883.5cfdb7da.38cfd912@aol.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003151155g3c6d1df2g33889d763e41b937@mail.gmail.com>

Why didn't I think of that?!? The perfect solution.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:40 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

>  Not really you just work on a Spridget at the far end of the lounge,
> another in the guest bedroom etc.
>
> In a message dated 15/03/2010 07:01:48 GMT Standard Time,
> rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes:
>
> I wouldn't want to furnish
> anything that big.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar 15 12:09:57 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:09:57 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Really Bad day in the garage
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003151155g3c6d1df2g33889d763e41b937@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54883.5cfdb7da.38cfd912@aol.com>,
	<d49b03131003151155g3c6d1df2g33889d763e41b937@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W341E3B399F1FCA346AF410B82E0@phx.gbl>

and you'd have lots of room for a desk like this one:

http://webworkerdaily.com/2007/02/08/the-mini-desk-webworker-tool-of-the-week
/



Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )


>
> Why didn't I think of that?!? The perfect solution.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:40 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Not really you just work on a Spridget at the far end of the lounge,
> > another in the guest bedroom etc.
> >
> > In a message dated 15/03/2010 07:01:48 GMT Standard Time,
> > rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes:
> >
> > I wouldn't want to furnish
> > anything that big.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar 15 13:03:45 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:03:45 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Titanium - working with it - could be LBC content
Message-ID: <5d93e.2391a467.38cfeca1@aol.com>

Hi List,
 
I want to cut some 1/4 Titanium plate with an  ordinary hack saw and drill 
it ok with a variable speed drill and cobalt  bit followed by tapping the 
holes.  Apparently this not be  easy!  So anyone work with Ti ona regular 
basis that might want a  small job?
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330 

From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Mar 15 14:03:52 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:03:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
Message-ID: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

It has been on my mind for some time and long before the current wave of Toyota problems, that cars have become way too complex.

I recently took delivery of a 2010 Cooper to replace my 2003 and the extent of the electronics on this car is staggering. 

It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a truly basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator pedals, bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of other gadgets unnecessary for transportation? 

IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?

jay

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar 15 14:14:05 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:14:05 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
Message-ID: <62248.5b2847ab.38cffd1d@aol.com>

It would most likely sell for less money and last longer than a more  
technological full of electronic clutter car so ultimately they'd make less  
money?
 
In a message dated 15/03/2010 21:03:58 GMT Standard Time,  
jfishbein at snet.net writes:

IOW, Why  not market a back to basics mechanical car?

jay

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 14:20:26 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:20:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003151420r5d1d8991g8b93ce89078b105@mail.gmail.com>

> It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a truly basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator pedals, bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of other gadgets unnecessary for transportation?
> IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?

Like the Yugo?
David L

From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Mar 15 14:26:14 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:26:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <402188521003151420r5d1d8991g8b93ce89078b105@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <800861.88498.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

No like maybe the early Honda Civic, classic Mini, older Corolla, VW
Rabbit/Jetta, even a 90's US pickup would fit the description.

jay

--- On Mon, 3/15/10, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 5:20 PM

> It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a truly
basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator pedals,
bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of other gadgets
unnecessary for transportation?
> IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?

Like the Yugo?
David L
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From grday at btinternet.com  Mon Mar 15 14:26:50 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:26:50 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D2CE3E8E460345E6BB6789F2354F14DD@user8634b3d69b>

Would it reach all of the safety specs required for today's world?  e.g.. 
ABS is a requirement in Europe and US won't be that far behind if not in 
front.  People want - as my wife calls them - the 'twiddly bits'.  Electric 
windows, heated sets, reversing sensors etc. etc.
The only way you would get one across here (UK) is to build it yourself and 
de-electrifying all the bits would be a major problem.

It's only the GOF's like us who could live without the electronics, today's 
youff want it all - NOW!!!

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 

Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 9:03 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car


> It has been on my mind for some time and long before the current wave of 
> Toyota problems, that cars have become way too complex.
>
> I recently took delivery of a 2010 Cooper to replace my 2003 and the 
> extent of the electronics on this car is staggering.
>
> It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a truly 
> basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator pedals, 
> bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of other gadgets 
> unnecessary for transportation?
>
> IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?
>
> jay

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Mon Mar 15 14:28:59 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:28:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DB9B26A23E08485F99785CDDFD2D8D99@MAINCOMPUTER>

Because a "back to basic Mechanical car would never pass the "Obama 
reglations" put on the manufacturers by our so all knowing and wise elected 
officials.

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:03 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car


> It has been on my mind for some time and long before the current wave of 
> Toyota problems, that cars have become way too complex.
>
> I recently took delivery of a 2010 Cooper to replace my 2003 and the 
> extent of the electronics on this car is staggering.
>
> It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a truly 
> basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator pedals, 
> bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of other gadgets 
> unnecessary for transportation?
>
> IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?
>
> jay
> _______________________________________________
>
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Mar 15 14:33:19 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:33:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <DB9B26A23E08485F99785CDDFD2D8D99@MAINCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <927424.25631.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Government regs are a valid point, but I think the discussion will be better if it doesn't degenerate to the level of an opportunity for one political persuasion to throw mud at the other political.

jay

--- On Mon, 3/15/10, Jim Fournier <jimndi at frontiernet.net> wrote:

From: Jim Fournier <jimndi at frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
To: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 5:28 PM

Because a "back to basic Mechanical car would never pass the "Obama reglations" put on the manufacturers by our so all knowing and wise elected officials.

Jim

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Mar 15 14:35:49 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 21:35:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <402188521003151420r5d1d8991g8b93ce89078b105@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100315213550.MXC1L.514255.root@hrndva-web24-z01>

I want one with the interior like the old Ford F150's.  Rubber mats instead of carpet and thick vinyl seats like a taxi so I can hose it down when it gets dirty from the kids.


Chris
---- David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a truly basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator pedals, bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of other gadgets unnecessary for transportation?
> > IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?
> 
> Like the Yugo?
> David L

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Mar 15 14:46:13 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:46:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <87d2rg$87ipjp@email.mtu.edu>

Sounds good to me. I don't own an ipod and I have white teeth. Cup 
holders aren't needed either. I could do without power windows. AC 
would be nice. A dome light would be nice. I certainly don't need a 
black box or any GPS stuff to track me and tell others where I am. 
GPS for directions only - OK.  A car is for getting me from point A 
to point B. Not to be my mobile living room.


At 05:03 PM 3/15/2010, Jay wrote:
>It has been on my mind for some time and long before the current 
>wave of Toyota problems, that cars have become way too complex.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Mar 15 15:52:20 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:52:20 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <402188521003151420r5d1d8991g8b93ce89078b105@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C7C3FA24.2518C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I don't see what was wrong with the Model A.
>> It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a truly
>> basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator pedals,
>> bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of other gadgets
>> unnecessary for transportation?
>> IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Mar 15 15:55:22 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:55:22 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C7C3FADA.2518D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I can't prove it, but I suspect it has something to do with the 19th
amendment.
> why don't any manufacturers make a truly basic mechanical car, devoid of fly
> by wire accelerator pedals, bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the
> myriad of other gadgets unnecessary for transportation? 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 14:55:44 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:55:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <C7C3FA24.2518C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <402188521003151420r5d1d8991g8b93ce89078b105@mail.gmail.com>
	<C7C3FA24.2518C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
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> I don't see what was wrong with the Model A.

And Henry Ford saw nothing wrong with the Model T.
Get right down to it and a bicycle is a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
David L

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Mon Mar 15 14:56:30 2010
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:56:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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How 'bout a Tata Nano? I hear it may come to the States.

Bob


At 05:03 PM 3/15/2010, Jay wrote:
>It has been on my mind for some time and long before the current 
>wave of Toyota problems, that cars have become way too complex.
>
>I recently took delivery of a 2010 Cooper to replace my 2003 and the 
>extent of the electronics on this car is staggering.
>
>It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a 
>truly basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator 
>pedals, bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of 
>other gadgets unnecessary for transportation?
>
>IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?
>
>jay
>_______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar 15 15:03:46 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:03:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W14B81859F3C820B5CC83BBB82E0@phx.gbl>

Would a bicycle fit the bill?  :)


Robert



>
> It has been on my mind for some time and long before the current wave of
Toyota problems, that cars have become way too complex.
>
> I recently took delivery of a 2010 Cooper to replace my 2003 and the extent
of the electronics on this car is staggering.
>
> It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a truly
basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator pedals,
bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of other gadgets
unnecessary for transportation?
>
> IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?
>
> jay

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar 15 15:05:53 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:05:53 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <402188521003151455v3c3210d6sda1de46dcabe02ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188521003151420r5d1d8991g8b93ce89078b105@mail.gmail.com>,
	<C7C3FA24.2518C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>,
	<402188521003151455v3c3210d6sda1de46dcabe02ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W10E6A626B15A838F0E65B4B82E0@phx.gbl>

Doh!  How many seconds did you beat me by with that?  :)

Robert


> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:55:44 -0600
> From: 72spridget at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
>
> > I don't see what was wrong with the Model A.
>
> And Henry Ford saw nothing wrong with the Model T.
> Get right down to it and a bicycle is a thing of beauty and a joy forever.
> David L
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Mar 15 15:10:22 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:10:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <800861.88498.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <800861.88498.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4B9EB04E.4010108@justbrits.com>

<< ...even a 90's US pickup would fit the description. >>

'70 Camino would be PERFECT, Jay !!!

<VBEG> !!!

Ed

PS:  And I have a VERY original one F/S <G> !

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 15 15:20:49 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:20:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <87d2rg$87ipjp@email.mtu.edu>
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	<87d2rg$87ipjp@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <4225F35E52664006B3716ADC182AC8A3@HomePC>

I think I know this car.  It's my 1967 Austin A60 pickup.  It has a molded 
rubber sheet floor mat -- no carpeting.  Also no radio, no cd player, no mp3 
player, no heater, no air conditioning, no cruise, no power windows, no 
power brakes, no auto-dimming rear view mirror, no navigation system, 
actually, no nothing.  It has a four speed on the left side of the column, 
no automatic trans.  It is RHD.

And I love driving it probably more than any of my other cars.  My wife 
hates it.  That probably makes me like it just a tiny bit more.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 4:46 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car

Sounds good to me. I don't own an ipod and I have white teeth. Cup
holders aren't needed either. I could do without power windows. AC
would be nice. A dome light would be nice. I certainly don't need a
black box or any GPS stuff to track me and tell others where I am.
GPS for directions only - OK.  A car is for getting me from point A
to point B. Not to be my mobile living room.


At 05:03 PM 3/15/2010, Jay wrote:
>It has been on my mind for some time and long before the current
>wave of Toyota problems, that cars have become way too complex.

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Mar 15 15:43:43 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:43:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
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References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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I want a new pick up truck, no manufacturer makes a standard pick up 
truck with a stick shift.
I checked them all except Nissan and THAT truck is just so butt ugly, I 
wouldn't take one for free.
Toyota Ford GM or Dodge.
You can get rubber mats to cover your expensive carpets.
I want a work truck not a foo-foo truck.
I hate power windows, I want to roll my window down to one particular 
spot not all the way down or flip a button 4 times to get it to a 
particular spot.
And when it rains, I want to open the door and roll up the window not go 
inside the house, find the keys, go back out and insert key in ignition 
just to roll up a window.
This is NOT progress!
Ford offers roll up windows but the crank is behind the seat a bit 
unless you are 6'6 tall and drive with the seat all the way back.
I can roll down the window if I open the door. One of Ford's "better 
ideas" I guess.
Toyota sheetmetal is way to thin, I have checked out 1 year old yotas on 
the job and they look like they have been rolled down a hill.
I have a Jaguar with all the foo-foo stuff, it's my wife's car but I do 
have to drive it sometimes, at least it has a real gearbox and a clutch.
Even basic transportation is full of foo foo these days, my son just 
bought a 2010 Jetta, I think it has more useless crap than my Jag.
Self leveling headlights? Not level headlights is a major problem?
Just think guys, in case of a nuclear problem, our Sprites and Midgets 
will be the only cars that can be driven.
No electronic to crap out.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Mar 15 16:24:56 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:24:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <4B9EB81F.4000504@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1039056030.10806021268695496602.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

just to correct...no electronics that don't already crap out :-) 
and one advantage to toyotas sheet metal is that if you need to replace any of it, a roll of reynolds heavy duty aluminum foil and bondo is a better than original replacement (experience) 
Ryan 

hope the house has aired out. 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net> 
To: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net> 
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:43:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car 

I want a new pick up truck, no manufacturer makes a standard pick up 
truck with a stick shift. 
I checked them all except Nissan and THAT truck is just so butt ugly, I 
wouldn't take one for free. 
Toyota Ford GM or Dodge. 
You can get rubber mats to cover your expensive carpets. 
I want a work truck not a foo-foo truck. 
I hate power windows, I want to roll my window down to one particular 
spot not all the way down or flip a button 4 times to get it to a 
particular spot. 
And when it rains, I want to open the door and roll up the window not go 
inside the house, find the keys, go back out and insert key in ignition 
just to roll up a window. 
This is NOT progress! 
Ford offers roll up windows but the crank is behind the seat a bit 
unless you are 6'6 tall and drive with the seat all the way back. 
I can roll down the window if I open the door. One of Ford's "better 
ideas" I guess. 
Toyota sheetmetal is way to thin, I have checked out 1 year old yotas on 
the job and they look like they have been rolled down a hill. 
I have a Jaguar with all the foo-foo stuff, it's my wife's car but I do 
have to drive it sometimes, at least it has a real gearbox and a clutch. 
Even basic transportation is full of foo foo these days, my son just 
bought a 2010 Jetta, I think it has more useless crap than my Jag. 
Self leveling headlights? Not level headlights is a major problem? 
Just think guys, in case of a nuclear problem, our Sprites and Midgets 
will be the only cars that can be driven. 
No electronic to crap out. 

-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
My own Fleet of Sprites 
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 16:26:39 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:26:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <4B9EB81F.4000504@comcast.net>
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4B9EB81F.4000504@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003151626y45c684b3nfc0c9e6ce046c5fa@mail.gmail.com>

I just read through this entire thread. Do you guys know that you sound like
a buncha 60 something grandfathers grousing about how much better things
were in the "good ol' days"??    ;-)

Face it...  Cars today are like everything else. They are being marketed to
the best customer demographics.  That would be the 18 to 30 crowd who are
tech savy and see cars as disposable items. They are "tuners" playing with
the micro-chips in their car's onboard computers. They are NOT into grease,
torque wrenches, hand tools and "original equipment".

We are crusty, old f*rts bitching to whomever will listen.

Me too.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> I want a new pick up truck, no manufacturer makes a standard pick up truck
> with a stick shift.
> I checked them all except Nissan and THAT truck is just so butt ugly, I
> wouldn't take one for free.
> Toyota Ford GM or Dodge.
> You can get rubber mats to cover your expensive carpets.
> I want a work truck not a foo-foo truck.
> I hate power windows, I want to roll my window down to one particular spot
> not all the way down or flip a button 4 times to get it to a particular
> spot.
> And when it rains, I want to open the door and roll up the window not go
> inside the house, find the keys, go back out and insert key in ignition
just
> to roll up a window.
> This is NOT progress!
> Ford offers roll up windows but the crank is behind the seat a bit unless
> you are 6'6 tall and drive with the seat all the way back.
> I can roll down the window if I open the door. One of Ford's "better ideas"
> I guess.
> Toyota sheetmetal is way to thin, I have checked out 1 year old yotas on
> the job and they look like they have been rolled down a hill.
> I have a Jaguar with all the foo-foo stuff, it's my wife's car but I do
> have to drive it sometimes, at least it has a real gearbox and a clutch.
> Even basic transportation is full of foo foo these days, my son just bought
> a 2010 Jetta, I think it has more useless crap than my Jag.
> Self leveling headlights? Not level headlights is a major problem?
> Just think guys, in case of a nuclear problem, our Sprites and Midgets will
> be the only cars that can be driven.
> No electronic to crap out.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
>
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Mon Mar 15 16:43:36 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:43:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4B9EB81F.4000504@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <035FC14D5A394B7B8C2FC649C7DD682D@MAINCOMPUTER>

Hey Frank ,

I have a 1941 Ford Pickup with the original 6 Cylinder engine. no frills, 
original floor shift . New rebuilt engine purrs like a kitten.
Very few mods...Radial Tires etc.  Highway Rear Gear. Perfect for cruising 
Toms River. no Rust, Nice clean Red paint and Wide Coker Classics .
It has a 39 Ford Trans,  Syncro. But if you really want to Double clutch, I 
have the original 4 speed with granny gear. Such a Deal!

J im

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car


>I want a new pick up truck, no manufacturer makes a standard pick up
> truck with a stick shift.
> I checked them all except Nissan and THAT truck is just so butt ugly, I
> wouldn't take one for free.
> Toyota Ford GM or Dodge.
> You can get rubber mats to cover your expensive carpets.
> I want a work truck not a foo-foo truck.
> I hate power windows, I want to roll my window down to one particular
> spot not all the way down or flip a button 4 times to get it to a
> particular spot.
> And when it rains, I want to open the door and roll up the window not go
> inside the house, find the keys, go back out and insert key in ignition
> just to roll up a window.
> This is NOT progress!
> Ford offers roll up windows but the crank is behind the seat a bit
> unless you are 6'6 tall and drive with the seat all the way back.
> I can roll down the window if I open the door. One of Ford's "better
> ideas" I guess.
> Toyota sheetmetal is way to thin, I have checked out 1 year old yotas on
> the job and they look like they have been rolled down a hill.
> I have a Jaguar with all the foo-foo stuff, it's my wife's car but I do
> have to drive it sometimes, at least it has a real gearbox and a clutch.
> Even basic transportation is full of foo foo these days, my son just
> bought a 2010 Jetta, I think it has more useless crap than my Jag.
> Self leveling headlights? Not level headlights is a major problem?
> Just think guys, in case of a nuclear problem, our Sprites and Midgets
> will be the only cars that can be driven.
> No electronic to crap out.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
> _______________________________________________
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 16:44:06 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:44:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Titanium - working with it - could be LBC  content
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It should be no harder to work than some grades of Stainless Steel.
Just use the proper tools, feeds, and speeds.
Ti isn't a vodoo magic substance.

http://www.titanium.com/titanium/tech_manual/tech2.cfm

I haven't done much machining in Ti but I know a guy who does a lot of
amateur lathe/mill work and he doesn't have a special set of tooling
for Ti.
Cobalt isn't always the best for all materials.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Mar 15 16:54:30 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:54:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <1039056030.10806021268695496602.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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>a roll of reynolds heavy duty aluminum foil and bondo is a better than 
>original replacement (experience)

When I started working on the door ding in my Midget A-pillar, I discovered 
that the rusted-out bottom had been covered with stick-on metal tape like 
you might put on ducting, then bondoed over.  It was completely sound and 
plenty strong with no leak-through.  I had no idea it was there.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 15 17:30:02 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:30:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003151038v5ef3774dq6e223fa12fd4a66e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <3DF467871CD4410D869CE44188EA7E51@HomePC>

Jim, I think I know why they didn't ask you... but I like you too much to 
say why.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:38 PM
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board

You must be more important than I.  I've been an AW subscriber since 1970
but they didn't ask me....  (sob!)

Cheers,
Jim

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> I've been asked a couple of times as well and just ignored the emails.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Mon, 3/15/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Anybody getting asked to join the AutoWeek Advisory Board?  They've asked
> me
> a
> couple times now.  I am a bit suspect of what it is all about.  Anybody
> sign
> up for it?  What do you think of it?
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 17:43:23 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:43:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] SLS
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 15 18:11:38 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:11:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Titanium - working with it - could be LBC  content
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Message-ID: <699247.28344.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

We stopped doing Ti years ago. Make a pass, throw out the tool.

I damn near
fired an engineer the other day for putting an Inconel butterfly in a
stainless valve design because "the butterfly is off the shelf, and stainless
would have required a new program." Inconel is another where you make the
part, scrap the cutter. Kids today don't understand that the cost of writing
the new CNC program pays for itself first pass. Wait...he's 61 years old...
Ron

--- On Mon, 3/15/10, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
wrote:
> Hi List,
>  
> I want to cut some 1/4 Titanium plate with an 
>
ordinary hack saw and drill 
> it ok with a variable speed drill and cobalt 
bit
> followed by tapping the 
> holes.  Apparently this not be  easy!  So
>
anyone work with Ti ona regular 
> basis that might want a  small job?
>  
>
Regards
>  
> Weslake-Monza 1330

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Mon Mar 15 18:12:57 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:12:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Mounts
Message-ID: <EBE7FE23786547FD905DC90F799DB6DC@Dell9200>

I have case of while you are at it you may as well do ????  I have been 
changing my water pump and since I have the radiator out I thought I would 
change my mushy engine mounts.  Is there any reason I can't just put a jack 
under the engine,  loosen everything up and change them.  Anything worrisome 
to watch for?  Any tricks?

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com

From rdgard at cox.net  Mon Mar 15 18:18:33 2010
From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:18:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mechanical car.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8409.1268693217.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.8409.1268693217.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <C25FDA0D60B04DDC91EDC893BE36EF61@internetpc>

I have often thought of that my self.  I bet they could make like a 32 ford
or a 40 ford, make it with a beautiful new design look, and keep the
"fiddley bits" down to Dome light, roll up windows, AC, auto tranny, ABS,
heater, and a few other things and they could sell them like hot cakes for
about $6000.

But then, they could not pass smog, crash test w/o air bags, and lots of
other things.  

I really think if you want a car like that, get a sprite, or if you like
your F-150 PU, get one in good condition.  If it is old enough, no smog
worries.  

Problem is, I also like my Lexus. So I guess I am stuck with both worlds.
You can't go back, or if you can, it is a really hard thing to do. 

I use my fireplace a lot, and I have several kerosene lamps but ask me to
give up my microwave and my 'Puter and you will have a fight on your hands. 

Cheers

Bob in San Diego

Robert D. Gardner
 
Gardner Productions LLC
Film and Video Production since 1978
619-460-1000
www.gardnerproductions.com

 *************

From conen at bellsouth.net  Mon Mar 15 18:21:44 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:21:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
Message-ID: <425170.68657.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per Tim Collins...
>>I think I know this car.  It's my 1967 Austin A60 pickup. 

I'd love to have something like that!  Except I'd want an Anglia or Cortina instead of an Austin.  Any body style would do!  :-)
  Ed in NC

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 15 18:43:20 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <507192.26941.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"why don't any manufacturers make a truly basic mechanical car, devoid of fly
by wire accelerator pedals, bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the
myriad of other gadgets unnecessary for transportation?"

They do, it's
called a Seven and a little company south of London called Caterham still
makes them. One day when I escape New York... 

David Booker
saving my
pennies...
Long Island

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Mar 15 18:51:13 2010
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:51:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <E2A212404B1743D9ABD678FF0F61AB04@Home>
References: <1039056030.10806021268695496602.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<E2A212404B1743D9ABD678FF0F61AB04@Home>
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Frank?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:55 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car

>a roll of reynolds heavy duty aluminum foil and bondo is a better than 
>original replacement (experience)

When I started working on the door ding in my Midget A-pillar, I discovered 
that the rusted-out bottom had been covered with stick-on metal tape like 
you might put on ducting, then bondoed over.  It was completely sound and 
plenty strong with no leak-through.  I had no idea it was there.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 15 19:02:55 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:02:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Mounts
In-Reply-To: <EBE7FE23786547FD905DC90F799DB6DC@Dell9200>
References: <EBE7FE23786547FD905DC90F799DB6DC@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <651593.14091.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"Anything worrisome to watch for?  Any tricks?"

Be careful if you use one of
those cool ratcheting wrenches(bought mine from Ace after using Frank's set on
the Holy Sprite) to loosen the bolt. After the bolt has backed off a certain
amount, there is a point after which the wrench gets stuck over the bolt.
Since it only works in one direction, you can't tighten the bolt back down to
a place where you can slip it off the end, yet there's not really enough room
to get another one in there to do the trick. Don't ask me how I know this...
Other then that, it's a pretty straight-forward process.

David (I amaze
myself w/my own stupidity) Booker
Long Island

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Mar 15 19:12:54 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:12:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Mounts
In-Reply-To: <EBE7FE23786547FD905DC90F799DB6DC@Dell9200>
References: <EBE7FE23786547FD905DC90F799DB6DC@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <4B9EE926.9060501@comcast.net>

Mark wrote:
> I have case of while you are at it you may as well do ????  I have been 
> changing my water pump and since I have the radiator out I thought I would 
> change my mushy engine mounts.  Is there any reason I can't just put a jack 
> under the engine,  loosen everything up and change them.  Anything worrisome 
> to watch for?  Any tricks?
>
>
>   
Mark

Put a block of plywood under the oil pan before jacking it up just so 
you don't dent it.
Undo the motor mount from the engine on the steering wheel side, but 
undo the mount from the chassis on the other side before jacking.
Now jack it up, undo the right side mount from the engine and change it, 
then undo the steering shaft side from the bracket and change it.
Because of the Vee shcpe, this way works best.
It is really tough to get the mount off the chassis at the steering 
wheel shaft.
This works for either RH or LH drive cars, leave the metal mount on the 
steering wheel side bolted to the car but undo the other side from the car.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From herby at herbytoys.com  Mon Mar 15 19:39:19 2010
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:39:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <425170.68657.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <322B709305D04A069ACBDCAE1505B1FC@HERBYZ>

Like this Ed?
http://www.angliaobsolete.com/ute.html


Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com
 
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Edmund Conen
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:22 PM
To: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car

per Tim Collins...
>>I think I know this car.  It's my 1967 Austin A60 pickup. 

I'd love to have something like that!  Except I'd want an Anglia or Cortina
instead of an Austin.  Any body style would do!  :-)
  Ed in NC
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 15 20:20:18 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:20:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Absolute Heresy
Message-ID: <639191.93459.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Has anyone driven a recent (2005+) Corvette? Lordy. And 28 MPG highway.

Ron

From davriker at nwi.net  Mon Mar 15 20:54:35 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:54:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4B9EB81F.4000504@comcast.net>
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Today, I just sold a truck just like that, no it's not full sized, but it is 
a truck.

2010 Chevrolet Colorado
Manual Transmission
Manual Windows
Manual Locks
Vinyl Floor
Vinyl Seat
AM/FM Radio (no CD)
Cruise Control is standard.
Air Conditioning is standard.
Plain Steel wheels.

If a car is more to your liking,
2010 Chevrolet Cobalt, or 2010 Chevrolet Aveo
Available in a value package without A/C even.

David R.
PS,
2006 was the last year you could get a Chevy full size with a manual 
transmission, but you can still get a Silverado in 1500, 2500, & 3500 series 
with vinyl floor, vinyl seats, roll down windows, AM/FM radio, and no 
OnStar.  It is the W/T series.  But the reality is, with mass production, 
adding the power group (power windows, locks, and mirrors) only adds $995 to 
the price.

If you really want one, I have a close out 2009 Regular Cab 1500 4x2 with 
vinyl floor, vinyl seat, crank windows for about $16,900 after rebates.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car


>I want a new pick up truck, no manufacturer makes a standard pick up
> truck with a stick shift.
> I checked them all except Nissan and THAT truck is just so butt ugly, I
> wouldn't take one for free.
> Toyota Ford GM or Dodge.
> You can get rubber mats to cover your expensive carpets.
> I want a work truck not a foo-foo truck.
> I hate power windows, I want to roll my window down to one particular
> spot not all the way down or flip a button 4 times to get it to a
> particular spot.
> And when it rains, I want to open the door and roll up the window not go
> inside the house, find the keys, go back out and insert key in ignition
> just to roll up a window.
> This is NOT progress!
> Ford offers roll up windows but the crank is behind the seat a bit
> unless you are 6'6 tall and drive with the seat all the way back.
> I can roll down the window if I open the door. One of Ford's "better
> ideas" I guess.
> Toyota sheetmetal is way to thin, I have checked out 1 year old yotas on
> the job and they look like they have been rolled down a hill.
> I have a Jaguar with all the foo-foo stuff, it's my wife's car but I do
> have to drive it sometimes, at least it has a real gearbox and a clutch.
> Even basic transportation is full of foo foo these days, my son just
> bought a 2010 Jetta, I think it has more useless crap than my Jag.
> Self leveling headlights? Not level headlights is a major problem?
> Just think guys, in case of a nuclear problem, our Sprites and Midgets
> will be the only cars that can be driven.
> No electronic to crap out.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Mar 15 20:55:28 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 20:55:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Absolute Heresy
In-Reply-To: <639191.93459.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <639191.93459.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <B1A7ECB0-4049-4665-9D38-30112B14A69A@ado13.com>

For $25k Flying Miata will put that engine in a Miata.

On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:20 PM, Ron Soave wrote:

> Has anyone driven a recent (2005+) Corvette? Lordy. And 28 MPG highway.
> 
> Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar 15 23:03:54 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:03:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
In-Reply-To: <3DF467871CD4410D869CE44188EA7E51@HomePC>
References: <D8830CF4C5314EFD9411355656361D81@HomePC>
	<251740.49535.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e1003151038v5ef3774dq6e223fa12fd4a66e@mail.gmail.com>
	<3DF467871CD4410D869CE44188EA7E51@HomePC>
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No... No...  Don't tell me...   It's my taste in underwear isn't it...  I
knew it....   The plaid jockey shorts have stricken me from eternal fame
once again...   Well, guess what, I'm not giving them up! Not for AW!  Not
for anyone!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Jim, I think I know why they didn't ask you... but I like you too much to
> say why.
>
> LAD
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:38 PM
> Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
>
> You must be more important than I.  I've been an AW subscriber since 1970
> but they didn't ask me....  (sob!)
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
>
> > I've been asked a couple of times as well and just ignored the emails.
> >
> > jay
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/15/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Anybody getting asked to join the AutoWeek Advisory Board?  They've asked
> > me
> > a
> > couple times now.  I am a bit suspect of what it is all about.  Anybody
> > sign
> > up for it?  What do you think of it?
> > ___________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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>


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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 16 06:04:51 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:04:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003152303p23fb9dfbuae12c4ecfd378fa0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <D8830CF4C5314EFD9411355656361D81@HomePC><251740.49535.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><43840a7e1003151038v5ef3774dq6e223fa12fd4a66e@mail.gmail.com><3DF467871CD4410D869CE44188EA7E51@HomePC>
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Actually, I didn't even know about that.  Wish I still didn't.  This won't 
set too well with breakfast at all.


LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:03 AM
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board

No... No...  Don't tell me...   It's my taste in underwear isn't it...  I
knew it....   The plaid jockey shorts have stricken me from eternal fame
once again...   Well, guess what, I'm not giving them up! Not for AW!  Not
for anyone!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Jim, I think I know why they didn't ask you... but I like you too much to
> say why.
>
> LAD
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 12:38 PM
> Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - AutoWeek Advisory Board
>
> You must be more important than I.  I've been an AW subscriber since 1970
> but they didn't ask me....  (sob!)
>
> Cheers,
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
>
> > I've been asked a couple of times as well and just ignored the emails.
> >
> > jay
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/15/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > Anybody getting asked to join the AutoWeek Advisory Board?  They've 
> > asked
> > me
> > a
> > couple times now.  I am a bit suspect of what it is all about.  Anybody
> > sign
> > up for it?  What do you think of it?
> > ___________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 07:17:10 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:17:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Absolute Heresy
In-Reply-To: <639191.93459.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I helped a friend fix one.  The fenders are so thin that you can't
pick them up in the middle or they will buckle in half.
Two steel frame rails.  Everything else fiberglass or plastic glues to
frame rails.
I dunno if I would own one but his sure kept its value a whole lot
better than his Hummer H2 did.

> Has anyone driven a recent (2005+) Corvette? Lordy. And 28 MPG highway.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 07:42:00 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:42:00 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Absolute Heresy
In-Reply-To: <B1A7ECB0-4049-4665-9D38-30112B14A69A@ado13.com>
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>> Has anyone driven a recent (2005+) Corvette? Lordy. And 28 MPG highway.

> For $25k Flying Miata will put that engine in a Miata.

And for another fee they will put the Miata drivetrain into a
Westfield. What a company!

A friend of mine has a Z06 and another friend has a convertible... The
owner of the convertible showed me the photo of his speedometer at
175mph on his way to a Corvette convention. He did have a police chief
in their convoy just in case ;-) Of course neither of them has given
me a chance to drive it.

Another acquaintance let me take his Viper for a spin, however, and
for sheer raw BFH, it would be hard to beat that. I had to turn around
and give it back to him quick before the lust started to set. Ya know,
what kinda friend hands you the keys to his Viper and says, "Have fun,
it is time to replace the race tires anyway, so don't worry about
them."?
David L

From lists at dinospider.com  Tue Mar 16 09:16:46 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (mike rambour)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:16:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <1039056030.10806021268695496602.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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 I have a car just like that, no electronics beyond a coil and points
and headlight/taillights.  You just have to go back 70-80 years for your
car.

 What I find funny is that my motorcycle has all the electronic doodads,
electric cruise control, electric windshield (I like raising on the
freeway to block the wind and off the freeway bring it down for wind),
heated grips, even heated ass warmer, ABS brakes, although I did skip on
the traction control I may get installed before summer.

 I stay with the old cars as they are what i prefer but when it comes to
bikes nothing but the latest for this boy.

	mike


On Mon, 2010-03-15 at 23:24 +0000, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
> just to correct...no electronics that don't already crap out :-) 
> and one advantage to toyotas sheet metal is that if you need to replace any of it, a roll of reynolds heavy duty aluminum foil and bondo is a better than original replacement (experience) 
> Ryan 
> 
> hope the house has aired out. 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net> 
> To: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net> 
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net 
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:43:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car 
> 
> I want a new pick up truck, no manufacturer makes a standard pick up 
> truck with a stick shift. 
> I checked them all except Nissan and THAT truck is just so butt ugly, I 
> wouldn't take one for free. 
> Toyota Ford GM or Dodge. 
> You can get rubber mats to cover your expensive carpets. 
> I want a work truck not a foo-foo truck. 
> I hate power windows, I want to roll my window down to one particular 
> spot not all the way down or flip a button 4 times to get it to a 
> particular spot. 
> And when it rains, I want to open the door and roll up the window not go 
> inside the house, find the keys, go back out and insert key in ignition 
> just to roll up a window. 
> This is NOT progress! 
> Ford offers roll up windows but the crank is behind the seat a bit 
> unless you are 6'6 tall and drive with the seat all the way back. 
> I can roll down the window if I open the door. One of Ford's "better 
> ideas" I guess. 
> Toyota sheetmetal is way to thin, I have checked out 1 year old yotas on 
> the job and they look like they have been rolled down a hill. 
> I have a Jaguar with all the foo-foo stuff, it's my wife's car but I do 
> have to drive it sometimes, at least it has a real gearbox and a clutch. 
> Even basic transportation is full of foo foo these days, my son just 
> bought a 2010 Jetta, I think it has more useless crap than my Jag. 
> Self leveling headlights? Not level headlights is a major problem? 
> Just think guys, in case of a nuclear problem, our Sprites and Midgets 
> will be the only cars that can be driven. 
> No electronic to crap out. 

From conen at bellsouth.net  Tue Mar 16 11:10:23 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 11:10:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
Message-ID: <217314.613.qm@web180203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per Herby...
>>Like this Ed?
>>http://www.angliaobsolete.com/ute.html

  Way too cool, Herb!  If it was lhd I'd love it!!!  I was actually thinking of the '59-'67 Anglia 105e, but that pickup is just way too cool. :-)
  Ed in NC

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 16 12:02:41 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:02:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
In-Reply-To: <BAD73E9AB12B48B8B7E930FFF66A6F15@Inspiron>
References: <228190.49349.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>,
	<BAD73E9AB12B48B8B7E930FFF66A6F15@Inspiron>
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Is it considered a green initiative to spray used oil
on a dirt road to keep the dust down?????
I remember a few towns doing this when I was a kid growing up
in Upstate NY.
I'm sure it didn't affect the water quality in the local wells. ;-)


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com
>I still know a few guys who spray the under side of
> their trucks with used engine oil, followed by a drive over a dusty road to
> keep the oil in place, no rust. Does that count as a Green Initiative ??
>
> Greg Higgins
> 63 sprite
>


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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 13:07:15 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:07:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W26A733FE8E844CE97E08EEC22D0@phx.gbl>
References: <228190.49349.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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This is why my brother's company which specializes in toxic waste clean up
is doing a land office business in upstate NY.  Keep it up, guys!  Baby
needs new shoes....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:02 PM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Is it considered a green initiative to spray used oil
> on a dirt road to keep the dust down?????
> I remember a few towns doing this when I was a kid growing up
> in Upstate NY.
> I'm sure it didn't affect the water quality in the local wells. ;-)
>
>
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>
>
>
> > From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com
> >I still know a few guys who spray the under side of
> > their trucks with used engine oil, followed by a drive over a dusty road
> to
> > keep the oil in place, no rust. Does that count as a Green Initiative ??
> >
> > Greg Higgins
> > 63 sprite
> >
>
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Mar 16 14:21:16 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:21:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
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Manufacturers will never again build a "basic" anything for one simple 
reason - money. They actually make far more on maintenance and repairs 
than they do on the initial sale of the vehicle. Parts are usually 
dealer only items, so they can jack up prices to pretty much anything 
they like, and they like money. A basic vehicle would encourage the 
younger set to learn shade tree mechanics and discover that aftermarket 
parts are not only cheaper to purchase, but perform better and last 
longer than OEM.

Kate


Jay wrote:
> It has been on my mind for some time and long before the current wave of Toyota problems, that cars have become way too complex.
>
> I recently took delivery of a 2010 Cooper to replace my 2003 and the extent of the electronics on this car is staggering. 
>
> It dawned on me the other day...why don't any manufacturers make a truly basic mechanical car, devoid of fly by wire accelerator pedals, bluetooth/ipod/flashdrive electronics and the myriad of other gadgets unnecessary for transportation? 
>
> IOW, Why not market a back to basics mechanical car?
>
> jay
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 15:20:40 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:20:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
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 *

                          When it says you only have 8 seconds to answer the
question, they aren't kidding! .
Re-taking the test mixes up the questions so you can't gain anything there.
[image: []]


This is VERY FAST , so be prepared.  You only have 8 seconds for each
question.
Click the link and have fun.

Smartorstoopid <http://www.flashbynight.com/test/>









*

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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 15:31:22 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:31:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the lump day
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003161531s72c2f99dm6ca0040782c88ef8@mail.gmail.com>

Well today is pull the engine and gear box out *again* day. . . 1275 and a
rib case.

Got to find out why my Bugeye loves throwout bearings as much as it does?

And yes, I do keep my foot off the clutch when not in use.  Might be an
adjustment issue or?

Fun fun fun. . .

Kirk
59

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 16 16:12:15 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:12:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b11003161520v19183c45la115bc508f67c8ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402283.66520.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

29, and I still think it was "Fall Out Boy".

--- On Tue, 3/16/10, WFO Herb
<froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> Subject:
[Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
> To: "Spridgeteers"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 5:20 PM
>  *
> 
>
               
>           When it says you only
> have 8 seconds to answer
the
> question, they aren't kidding! .
> Re-taking the test mixes up the
questions so you can't gain
> anything there.
> [image: []]
> 
> 
> This is
VERY FAST , so be prepared.  You only have 8
> seconds for each
> question.
>
Click the link and have fun.
> 
> Smartorstoopid
<http://www.flashbynight.com/test/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *
> 
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 16:28:26 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:28:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
In-Reply-To: <402283.66520.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<402283.66520.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003161628o3b30e68cp88629213c17ba718@mail.gmail.com>

I only managed 26...   How did a Bugeye, racer punk kid beat me??!!    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 29, and I still think it was "Fall Out Boy".
>
> --- On Tue, 3/16/10, WFO Herb
> <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> > Subject:
> [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
> > To: "Spridgeteers"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 5:20 PM
> >  *
> >
> >
>
> >           When it says you only
> > have 8 seconds to answer
> the
> > question, they aren't kidding! .
> > Re-taking the test mixes up the
> questions so you can't gain
> > anything there.
> > [image: []]
> >
> >
> > This is
> VERY FAST , so be prepared.  You only have 8
> > seconds for each
> > question.
> >
> Click the link and have fun.
> >
> > Smartorstoopid
> <http://www.flashbynight.com/test/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg
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> >
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Mar 16 16:35:27 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:35:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pan
Message-ID: <80D3E11072074AD39492A746BE5EE891@Home>

The oil pan I am working on now has a dent in the bottom corner about 1/2" x 1.5".  Should I pound it out, or is that likely to tear and require welding?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 16 16:41:49 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:41:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003161628o3b30e68cp88629213c17ba718@mail.gmail.com>
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I matched Ron with 29, but I cheated.  He said he thought the group was Fall 
Out Boy.  So that gave me a 50/50 chance and I got lucky.  I got the 
president wrong.  When I went back and thought about it, I realized what the 
answer was.  So, I'll be happy with a 28.

Jim, I think they call that Al Zheimer's Disease.  Ya old fart.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:28 PM
Cc: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test

I only managed 26...   How did a Bugeye, racer punk kid beat me??!!    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 29, and I still think it was "Fall Out Boy".
>
> --- On Tue, 3/16/10, WFO Herb
> <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> > Subject:
> [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
> > To: "Spridgeteers"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 5:20 PM
> >  *
> >
> >
>
> >           When it says you only
> > have 8 seconds to answer
> the
> > question, they aren't kidding! .
> > Re-taking the test mixes up the
> questions so you can't gain
> > anything there.
> > [image: []]
> >
> >
> > This is
> VERY FAST , so be prepared.  You only have 8
> > seconds for each
> > question.
> >
> Click the link and have fun.
> >
> > Smartorstoopid
> <http://www.flashbynight.com/test/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *
> >
> >
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> > which had a name of
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Mar 16 18:16:17 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:16:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pan
In-Reply-To: <80D3E11072074AD39492A746BE5EE891@Home>
References: <80D3E11072074AD39492A746BE5EE891@Home>
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<< Should I pound it out, >>

 From it's size it's cosmetic [and typical <G>], Michael.
Got 1 very similar <G> !!

"IF" you are a really GOOD and SKILLED body-work
chap, take it out.

However.........................

<G>  Mine still has dent.  LOL

Ed

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar 16 18:21:47 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:21:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car stuff in general
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W26A733FE8E844CE97E08EEC22D0@phx.gbl>
References: <228190.49349.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>,
	<BAD73E9AB12B48B8B7E930FFF66A6F15@Inspiron>
	<BLU103-W26A733FE8E844CE97E08EEC22D0@phx.gbl>
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brian S wrote:
> Is it considered a green initiative to spray used oil
> on a dirt road to keep the dust down?????
>   
That would be a serious no-no these days but then again you can pave a 
road with a few tons of crude oil mixed with some rocks.
That is the government at it's finest.
Oil and sand AKA "mix in place" was the way roads were made back in the day.
Now they are mixed at an asphalt plant then spread on the road.
Same stuff, different day.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar 16 18:28:48 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:28:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the lump day
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003161531s72c2f99dm6ca0040782c88ef8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003161531s72c2f99dm6ca0040782c88ef8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA03050.20609@comcast.net>

Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
> Well today is pull the engine and gear box out *again* day. . . 1275 and a
> rib case.
>
> Got to find out why my Bugeye loves throwout bearings as much as it does?
>
> And yes, I do keep my foot off the clutch when not in use.  Might be an
> adjustment issue or?
>   
A bent or wrong throw out fork.
Or too long a slave rod, it should be 2-11/16" from center of the hole 
to the end.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar 16 18:31:27 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:31:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pan
In-Reply-To: <80D3E11072074AD39492A746BE5EE891@Home>
References: <80D3E11072074AD39492A746BE5EE891@Home>
Message-ID: <4BA030EF.4030600@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> The oil pan I am working on now has a dent in the bottom corner about 1/2" x 1.5".  Should I pound it out, or is that likely to tear and require welding?
>
>   
As long as it is not the dip stick depression (dent) use a wooden dowel 
or the butt end of a wooden hammer and beat it back to shape.
I do it all the time. Hold the pan up to a light when finished to make 
sure there are no holes in it.
Not that I have beat holes in any pans but I have straightened out 
dents, cleaned them and painted them only to find pin holes in them.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar 16 18:38:46 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:38:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
In-Reply-To: <402283.66520.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <402283.66520.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BA032A6.1090605@comcast.net>

Ron Soave wrote:
> 29, and I still think it was "Fall Out Boy".
>   
Damn, I only got a 27
I don't know which ones I got wrong.
I'll do it again
Better, 28. I got the drug question wrong.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Mar 16 19:13:34 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:13:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
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	<4B9FF64C.9070802@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <D92B7AA26C0C497F995DD1DE7F2D82F9@MAIN>

My wife's Lexus is due for it's 60,000 mile service.  In addition, the 
timing belt is due to be replaced because it is over 6 years old.  I went 
online to Bellvue Lexus and they have a service menu with the pricing.  The 
services due will cost.....

over $2100 .................

I'm in the business and that even shocked me.  It's just a glorified Toyota 
for Pete's sake!

I've printed up the items that are due, and I'm going to meet with my guys 
tomorrow and see if the Subaru techs are up to the task.

Wow, still sitting down.

Dave R.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car


> Manufacturers will never again build a "basic" anything for one simple
> reason - money. They actually make far more on maintenance and repairs
> than they do on the initial sale of the vehicle. Parts are usually
> dealer only items, so they can jack up prices to pretty much anything
> they like, and they like money. A basic vehicle would encourage the
> younger set to learn shade tree mechanics and discover that aftermarket
> parts are not only cheaper to purchase, but perform better and last
> longer than OEM.
>
> Kate


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From duncan at pondhop.com  Tue Mar 16 19:47:00 2010
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:47:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
In-Reply-To: <402283.66520.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <2ad6c6b11003161520v19183c45la115bc508f67c8ed@mail.gmail.com>
	<402283.66520.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00c301cac57c$2227ca10$66775e30$@pondhop.com>

Got that one too, "My chemical Romance", I think was correct answer, but
then I only got 27!

Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 6:12 PM
To: Spridgeteers; WFO Herb
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test

29, and I still think it was "Fall Out Boy".

--- On Tue, 3/16/10, WFO Herb
<froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> Subject:
[Spridgets] "Smartorstoopid" Test
> To: "Spridgeteers"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 5:20 PM
>  *
> 
>
               
>           When it says you only
> have 8 seconds to answer
the
> question, they aren't kidding! .
> Re-taking the test mixes up the
questions so you can't gain
> anything there.
> [image: []]
> 
> 
> This is
VERY FAST , so be prepared.  You only have 8
> seconds for each
> question.
>
Click the link and have fun.
> 
> Smartorstoopid
<http://www.flashbynight.com/test/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *
> 
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Mar 16 19:52:32 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:52:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the lump day
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003161531s72c2f99dm6ca0040782c88ef8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003161531s72c2f99dm6ca0040782c88ef8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA043F0.70902@frontiernet.net>

Do you start your car in gear?
Do you drive with your hand resting on the gearshift knob?

Kate


Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
> Well today is pull the engine and gear box out *again* day. . . 1275 and a
> rib case.
>
> Got to find out why my Bugeye loves throwout bearings as much as it does?
>
> And yes, I do keep my foot off the clutch when not in use.  Might be an
> adjustment issue or?
>
> Fun fun fun. . .
>
> Kirk
> 59
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 16 20:15:49 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:15:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <D92B7AA26C0C497F995DD1DE7F2D82F9@MAIN>
References: <957735.75418.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<4B9FF64C.9070802@frontiernet.net>,
	<D92B7AA26C0C497F995DD1DE7F2D82F9@MAIN>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W9EF716BC67D62FCFCB7CBCA2C0@phx.gbl>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano

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From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Mar 16 20:24:52 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:24:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W9EF716BC67D62FCFCB7CBCA2C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <563034.21407.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If nothing else, this will increase the demand for 10" tires, or are those 8"?

jay

--- On Tue, 3/16/10, Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
To: 
Cc: "spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 11:15 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 16 20:34:35 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:34:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
In-Reply-To: <563034.21407.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT123-W9EF716BC67D62FCFCB7CBCA2C0@phx.gbl>,
	<563034.21407.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W2516D4DC1FFD4B0C568AE5CA2C0@phx.gbl>

Actually the text lists them as 12'

> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:24:52 -0700
> From: jfishbein at snet.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
>
> If nothing else, this will increase the demand for 10" tires, or are those
8"?
>
> jay
>
> --- On Tue, 3/16/10, Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
> To:
> Cc: "spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, March 16, 2010, 11:15 PM
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tata_Nano
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 21:39:37 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:39:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevrolet convertible
In-Reply-To: <9D7A2BE4BDD14AFEB9A7D8B4FF6E7DF3@D9QDN571>
References: <9D7A2BE4BDD14AFEB9A7D8B4FF6E7DF3@D9QDN571>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003162139w11478e5eg23f2d196cb555997@mail.gmail.com>

 **
**
*Subject:* Chevrolet convertible











  *
**Every* Chevrolet convertible since 1912

Wow ! What do you suppose this collection is worth ?

This collection belongs to Dennis Albaugh in Ankeny , Iowa , just north of
Des Moines ...

The personal and private collection consists of 110 + Chevrolet
convertibles...
all years from 1912 to 1975 and Corvette convertibles from 1953 to 1975.

That is a Chevy convertible from every year of manufacture EXCEPT 1939...
The reason? - Chevy didn't make a convertible in '39 -- and ended its
convertible line in '75!

His 'boy toys' include his own 18 hole golf course, copied somewhat after
Augusta National.
He is what you call a REAL Chevy guy, but his passion seems to be
convertibles ! This poor guy must barely make ends meet! HA HA

This billionaire made his fortune selling farm chemicals !















*This is enough to make a grown man CRY !!!!
What a collection......gorgeous !!! Enjoy the trip down Memory Lane !!!*





















































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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Mar 16 22:11:18 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 01:11:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye DIY Repro tunnel rubber
Message-ID: <BD845D974399431EBC46328C5F530131@blackbox2>

I did this a while ago, just getting around to sharing the pictures..
http://tinyurl.com/yz4otfg
or...
http://s295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/Tunnel%20Rubber/?albumview=slideshow

This is the groved rubber from RubberCal that I also used for the door panels. 

I carefully laid out templates with paper and then cut the top and sides pieces out of the rubber. 
The rubber ribs were cut off with a razor and then these areas sanded smooth with a vibratory sander.

The top smoothed areas (flaps) laid over the side smoothed areas and were glued with Gel cyanoacrylate (Locktite brand).
SBR rubber bonds really well with this.

The end result looks like a single molded piece.  Not too far from factory look & feel.  Matches up well with my old
set of Ampco mats.   It tooks some effort, but I like it better than the carpet option.

I still want to put the flange around the edge like the original.  I cut up a cheap rubber SUV mat from Biglots.
Just have'nt figured out how to glue that up yet. 

Next up, side curtain re-felting...

and it's way past my bedtime...

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 23:18:40 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:18:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the lump day
In-Reply-To: <4BA03050.20609@comcast.net>
References: <37dc82d41003161531s72c2f99dm6ca0040782c88ef8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BA03050.20609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003162318x6d420ea5rcc76bfec21cb1881@mail.gmail.com>

Frank,


I have it apart. . and I see that when the throw out bearing reaches the
clutch splines that it is a bit off center.

Is there any room for the bearing to hit the clutch splines off center a
bit?  As this could also be an issue, as you mentioned of having too long of
a slave rod.

To add, I might be running a throw out fork from a smooth case.  Are the
smooth case throw out forks different for the ribcase with a 1275?

(Thanks for the measurements on the slave rod. .  I will check that as
well).

Thanks,

Kirk

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
>
>> Well today is pull the engine and gear box out *again* day. . . 1275 and a
>> rib case.
>>
>> Got to find out why my Bugeye loves throwout bearings as much as it does?
>>
>> And yes, I do keep my foot off the clutch when not in use.  Might be an
>> adjustment issue or?
>>
>>
> A bent or wrong throw out fork.
> Or too long a slave rod, it should be 2-11/16" from center of the hole to
> the end.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From chris_west at juno.com  Wed Mar 17 04:05:44 2010
From: chris_west at juno.com (chris_west)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 07:05:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC A Proposal, The Mechanical Car
Message-ID: <20100317.040622.28560.345141@mailpop10.vgs.untd.com>

Michael wrote:

When I started working on the door ding in my Midget A-pillar, I
discovered 
that the rusted-out bottom had been covered with stick-on metal tape like

you might put on ducting, then bondoed over.  It was completely sound and

plenty strong with no leak-through.  I had no idea it was there.

--------------------------------------------------------------

This sounds like my car.  The inner sills (structural!) were patched with
aluminum roll flashing bonded and covered by seam sealer.  My body man
and I could not understand how the car didn't sag - door gaps were
perfect.  And the car was like this for over 30 years!

As for the "topic":  Let's see - basic car, no electronics, carburetor,
no "comfort and convenience options", nothing too complicated so as to be
prone to failure that couldn't be repaired by the somewhat knowledgeable
operator - sounds like a Bugeye Sprite to me!


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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Mar 17 06:57:08 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:57:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevrolet convertible
In-Reply-To: <402188521003170656s11b0263y86ba8cba2dc7683d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9D7A2BE4BDD14AFEB9A7D8B4FF6E7DF3@D9QDN571>
	<2ad6c6b11003162139w11478e5eg23f2d196cb555997@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188521003170656s11b0263y86ba8cba2dc7683d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003170657h154a868fhd2a602d69166be83@mail.gmail.com>

Or for those of us on the Spridget List...
http://www.legendarycollectorcars.com/car-museums/car-museums-specific-makes/ankeny-iowa-car-collection-every-chevy-convertible/

http://tinyurl.com/yasr7ao
David L

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Mar 17 10:26:28 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:26:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevrolet convertible
In-Reply-To: <402188521003170657h154a868fhd2a602d69166be83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9D7A2BE4BDD14AFEB9A7D8B4FF6E7DF3@D9QDN571>
	<2ad6c6b11003162139w11478e5eg23f2d196cb555997@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188521003170656s11b0263y86ba8cba2dc7683d@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188521003170657h154a868fhd2a602d69166be83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA110C4.5070105@justbrits.com>

<< Or for those of us on the Spridget List... >>

Only place he sent it, David <G> !!

But isn't this the 10th or 12th time around for this
collection <G> ???

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Mar 17 10:34:21 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:34:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevrolet convertible
In-Reply-To: <4BA110C4.5070105@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <767923.51373.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

There is also link to this collection from the OCD website.

jay

--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

<< Or for those of us on the Spridget List... >>

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Mar 17 11:11:49 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:11:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevrolet convertible
In-Reply-To: <767923.51373.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <4BA110C4.5070105@justbrits.com>,
	<767923.51373.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W40F00129A5C0E7675DCB9B82C0@phx.gbl>

What were you doing on the OCD website?  ;)

> There is also link to this collection from the OCD website.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
>
> << Or for those of us on the Spridget List... >>

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Mar 17 11:19:21 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:19:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevrolet convertible
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W40F00129A5C0E7675DCB9B82C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <496925.83044.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Uhhhhhhh, someone else told me it was there?

jay

--- On Wed, 3/17/10, robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chevrolet convertible
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 2:11 PM

What were you doing on the OCD website?  ;)

> There is also link to this collection from the OCD website.
>
> jay
>
> --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
>
> << Or for those of us on the Spridget List... >>

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Mar 17 11:59:42 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:59:42 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the lump day
Message-ID: <4a6ea.691670e.38d2809e@aol.com>

Yes, and there are even books with photos of this kind of stuff in  them...
 
In a message dated 17/03/2010 06:19:30 GMT Standard Time,  
khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes:

To add,  I might be running a throw out fork from a smooth case.  Are  the
smooth case throw out forks different for the ribcase with a  1275?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Mar 17 12:02:47 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:02:47 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - A Proposal: The Mechanical Car
Message-ID: <4aadd.43b1bdcb.38d28157@aol.com>

Maybe the throttle will stick and you won't need to get it fixed??
 
In a message dated 17/03/2010 02:15:34 GMT Standard Time, davriker at nwi.net  
writes:

Lexus is  due for it's 60,000 mile service.  In addition, the 
timing belt is  due to be replaced because it is over 6 years old.  I went 
online to  Bellvue Lexus and they have a service menu with the pricing.  
The  
services due will cost.....

over $2100 .................

I'm  in the business and that even shocked me.  It's just a glorified 
Toyota  
for Pete's sake!

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Mar 17 12:39:46 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:39:46 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinders
Message-ID: <20100317.133946.28451.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

Is there a difference between the 1275 and 948 slave cylinder other than the
hose connection? Bore diameter?, throw? and is there a difference in the throw
out forks and why? Just FYI, the new BE engine will have a 1275 spec clutch on
an aluminum flywheel mated to a ribcase with a 1275 engine plate.


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Mar 17 13:30:06 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:30:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinders
In-Reply-To: <20100317.133946.28451.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100317.133946.28451.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <201003171230320.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

1098 and 1275 forks are the same.  948s are different.
948 & 1098 slaves take the 3/8-24 steel line and are 7/8 bore. 1275 
take the 7/16 - 20 hose and are 1" bore.
The throw isn't different until you throw it.
You're setup should be fine, but use the 1275 slave for better pedal 
feel. Best is to run a 1/4" pipe back to the master and adapt to the 
3/8" fitting there.
         Peter C
=
At 02:39 PM 3/17/2010, Mark Haynes wrote:
>Is there a difference between the 1275 and 948 slave cylinder other than the
>hose connection? Bore diameter?, throw? and is there a difference in the throw
>out forks and why? Just FYI, the new BE engine will have a 1275 spec clutch on
>an aluminum flywheel mated to a ribcase with a 1275 engine plate.
>
>
>Mark Haynes
>HAN6L12779
>HAN5L8016

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 17 14:44:27 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:44:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
In-Reply-To: <78822153C29B46C9B00F6BF8865F5A38@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <1119223D-7545-4BC2-83B0-8FF5DCC24641@wi.rr.com>,
	<78822153C29B46C9B00F6BF8865F5A38@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W244641B086180AAE799ED2C22C0@phx.gbl>

Thanks for all the hard work investigating this Leo.
I guess the sales guy at Griffin was a bit off when he told you
that they could probably do it for $250-300.... :-)


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net
> To: gmajewski at wi.rr.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:51:41 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] thermostats and radiators
>
>     I was going to post this tomorrow as I finally got in estimates from all
> the various suppliers I contacted in trying to find the lowest price I could
> on an aluminum radiator that is patterned after the bugeye's radiator.  I
> contacted Griffin, Davies racing and some others and here is the general
> consensus from them and the best overall deal.  Basically the radiator is
> very labor intensive in the fabrication of the neck and the surround.  Some
> were able to put the ridges in the top of the tank and some were not.
> Quality and workmanship was also a criteria.  All quotes were based on a
> minimum of 20 radiators.  The best quote I got was for $460.00 from  a
> company in England but with customs and brokers fee the final tab is around
> $500.00 ea.  The cost of the same radiator if bought without the volume is
> 651.00.   It really is a work of art and I will get pictures posted tomorrow
> on line so it can be viewed.  I have seen their radiator in person and is
> really impressive.      A company in Australia sells a comparable radiator
> and their list price is $1000.00 which to me is WAYYYYY out of line.  Ron
> Davies racing sells a radiator for 650.00 and there is a 10.00 per unit
> break if buying 20....Sooo...Is there enough people interested in spending
> approx. $500.00 for an aluminum radiator to satisfy the 20 unit order?
> Radiators will be shipped direct to your door by the broker. All orders have
> to paid for in advance and after I find out f the interest is there I can
> get a delivery / mfg timeline.  I am not making a dime on this and the
> shipping will be done by the broker I have to go through to get them.  My
> part in all of this will be to get the money assembled all in one place to
> make the payment to the broker.  Or if someone else want to act as the money
> changer if there is enough interest then more power to them.  Soooooo...
> speak up if interested.  Put radiator in the subject line.
>
>
> Leo
> _______________________________________________
>

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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Mar 17 15:14:02 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:14:02 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinders
Message-ID: <37b02.3050b5ba.38d2ae2a@aol.com>

The carbon thrust bearings should be different but often aren't and Moss or 
 whoever sell you the only bearing they have.
 
In a message dated 17/03/2010 20:33:24 GMT Standard Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

1098 and  1275 forks are the same.  948s are different.
948 & 1098 slaves  take the 3/8-24 steel line and are 7/8 bore. 1275 
take the 7/16 - 20 hose  and are 1" bore.
The throw isn't different until you throw it.
You're  setup should be fine, but use the 1275 slave for better pedal 
feel. Best  is to run a 1/4" pipe back to the master and adapt to the 
3/8" fitting  there.
Peter C
=
At 02:39 PM  3/17/2010, Mark Haynes wrote:
>Is there a difference between the 1275  and 948 slave cylinder other than 
the
>hose connection? Bore diameter?,  throw? and is there a difference in the 
throw
>out forks and why? Just  FYI, the new BE engine will have a 1275 spec 
clutch on
>an aluminum  flywheel mated to a ribcase with a 1275 engine  plate.
>
>
>Mark  Haynes
>HAN6L12779
>HAN5L8016

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 17 15:57:42 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:57:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pan
In-Reply-To: <80D3E11072074AD39492A746BE5EE891@Home>
References: <80D3E11072074AD39492A746BE5EE891@Home>
Message-ID: <341782.51065.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

"Should I pound it out, or is that likely to tear and require welding?"
Michael,
I had a huge dent in the bottom front of my pan.  Used a hickory
hammer handle on the metal motivated my my BFH to beat it out. The metal is
thick, so unless you're using something sharp to hammer it, you would have a
hard time putting a hole in it.
David Booker
Long Island 



 


 
________________________________
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To:
Spridget Chat Group <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010
7:35:27 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pan

The oil pan I am working on now has a
dent in the bottom corner about 1/2" x 1.5".  
Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60
Sprite kit
Long Island, NY
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Mar 17 17:03:43 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:03:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Pat - NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W147787337E7D4C58195F0BB82C0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W147787337E7D4C58195F0BB82C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W16541C4F442880F8598CC2B82B0@phx.gbl>


Murphy told Quinn that his wife was driving him to drink.   Quinn thinks hes
very lucky because his own wife makes him walk.

The late Bishop Sheen stated that the reason the Irish fight so often among
themselves is that theyre always assured of having a worthy opponent.

An American lawyer asked, Paddy, why is it that whenever you ask an Irishman
a question, he answers with another question?
Who told you that? asked Paddy.

Question  Why are Irish jokes so simple?
Answer  So the English can understand them.

Reilly went to trial for armed robbery.   The jury foreman came out and
announced, Not guilty.
Thats grand! shouted Reilly.   Does that mean I can keep the money?

Irish lass customer:    Could I be trying on that dress in the window?
Shopkeeper:  Id prefer that you use the dressing room.

Mrs. Feeney shouted from the kitchen, Is that you I hear spittin in the vase
on the mantle piece?
No, said himself, but Im  gettin closer all the time.

Question  What do you call an Irishman who knows how to control a wife?
Answer -   A bachelor.

Finnegin:   My wife has a terrible habit of staying up til two oclock in the
morning.   I cant break her of it.
Keenan:    What on earth is she doin at that time?
Finnegin:   Waitin for me to come home .

Slaney phoned the maternity ward at the hospital.   Quick! He said.   Send
an ambulance, my wife is goin to have a baby!
Tell me, is this her first baby? the intern asked.
No, this is her husband, Kevin, speakin.

ORyan, asked the druggist, did that mudpack I gave you improve your wifes
appearance?
It did surely, replied ORyan, but it keeps fallin off!

Did you hear about the Irish newlyweds who sat up all night on their honeymoon
waiting for their sexual relations to arrive?

My mother wanted me to be a priest.   Can you imagine giving up your sex life
and then once a
week people come in to tell you the details and highlights of theirs?

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Wed Mar 17 19:09:01 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:09:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Philly MG Club Swap Meet
Message-ID: <0F15005A-9431-4EDD-94B7-D65EC43B9C4A@phillymgclub.com>

Sorry for the REALLY LATE notice, but it's this Sunday March 21. 8AM -1PM.
Steve's Complete Car Care
6904 Castor Ave
Philadelphia, PA 19149.

Larry

--

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never
actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Mar 17 19:28:53 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:28:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Re-felting the side curtains
Message-ID: <F25EBB6B420F48B9AE7DB91AA66A23EC@blackbox2>

Once again, I did this a while ago, just now sharing the photos...

http://tinyurl.com/yamwwes
or..
http://s295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/Sidecurtain%20re-felt/?albumview=slideshow

The rattling of the plexiglass panels in my sidecurtains was driving me crazy.  
The original felt in my side curtains was only to one side of the track.  
When I replaced it,  I installed the new felt so that it was fully surrounding the plexiglass 
on both sides of the channel.   No more rattles.

I bought the felt from Johan's fabric.  Comes in all colors, I decided on the light gray.

The pictures are pretty self explanitory.  Easy 1-1/2 hour job.

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 18 13:14:40 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:14:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget
Message-ID: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I had my dual SU HS2 carbs rebuilt for my 1275.  The car RUNS great, but starting first thing in the morning is painful.  Am I doing something wrong?  I have an electric fuel pump....do I need to wait a certain amount of time before trying to start it in the morning?  This only happens when it's cold.  It takes about 8-10 tries to get it started.  Starting afterward is fine.  This may sound stupid, but is there a process for this?  

1. Pull choke out
2. Turn key to start fuel pump
3. Wait about 30 seconds
4. Depress gas pedal a couple of times
5. Crank, crank, crank, crank, crank......sputter sputter, start.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Mar 18 13:27:54 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:27:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget
In-Reply-To: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201003181227329.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Ed, pull choke out, then open bonnet and feel if you can pull even 
more on the cable... or push down on the choke linkage. I find that 
just that extra little bit.. maybe 1/8" matters a lot.
         Peter C

At 03:14 PM 3/18/2010, Edward Perez wrote:
>I had my dual SU HS2 carbs rebuilt for my 1275.  The car RUNS great, 
>but starting first thing in the morning is painful.  Am I doing 
>something wrong?  I have an electric fuel pump....do I need to wait 
>a certain amount of time before trying to start it in the 
>morning?  This only happens when it's cold.  It takes about 8-10 
>tries to get it started.  Starting afterward is fine.  This may 
>sound stupid, but is there a process for this?
>
>1. Pull choke out
>2. Turn key to start fuel pump
>3. Wait about 30 seconds
>4. Depress gas pedal a couple of times
>5. Crank, crank, crank, crank, crank......sputter sputter, start.
>
>  Edward Perez
>Snohomish, WA
>78 Midget (1275)
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>_______________________________________________

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Mar 18 13:30:57 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:30:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget
In-Reply-To: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <976673.50378.qm@web84203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Ed,

Su's do not have an accelerator pump or an enrichment pump.
Depressing the gas pedal a few times has no purpose...

When it does start, do you get a puff of black smoke out the tail pipe?
IMHO, if so, either the choke is too far out or the float levels are too high

 
I just *know* someone will correct me if I'm wrong ;-)

BTW who sputters?? You? or the car!

Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>

> I had my dual SU HS2 carbs rebuilt for my 1275.  The car RUNS great, but 
> starting first thing in the morning is painful.  Am I doing something 
> wrong?  I have an electric fuel pump....do I need to wait a certain amount 
> of time before trying to start it in the morning?  This only happens when 
> it's cold.  It takes about 8-10 tries to get it started.  Starting 
> afterward is fine.  This may sound stupid, but is there a process for 
> this?  

1. Pull choke out
2. Turn key to start fuel pump
3. 
> Wait about 30 seconds
4. Depress gas pedal a couple of times
5. Crank, 
> crank, crank, crank, crank......sputter sputter, start.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 13:40:58 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:40:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 64 Sprite for sale in Kansas...
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003181340q60b5841bm2328a5cf415341b1@mail.gmail.com>

 Spridgeteers,

Got this via email today and promised the guy I'd post it to the
lists....    NFI....etc.

1964 Austin Healey Sprite, Mark II, which has 39000 miles on it. John
Zutavern   (785) 263-3833   John Zutavern <zutavern at sbcglobal.net>

http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/sprite.pdf

(Esc) key closes the slide show.   Car is mostly original.  I had it
repainted the original color several years ago and had it reupholstered and
recarpeted.  Everything works but the Tach, and I hope to have that replaced
if it is feasible.  The original windows are in the trunk, in their original
case.  The seat belts are original, and the jack, etc. is in its original
case in the trunk.  I bought a new top several years ago, but the original
tonneau cover is in the trunk.   I bought it in 1966 and it had 18000 miles
on it then.  An archivist at the Eisenhower Library had bought it new.  It
has always been in a garage or storage facility..never out in the weather.
 Hope this information is helpful. If someone wants to see it, all they need
to do is call or send me an email, and I will be ready and willing to show
it!!

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 18 13:42:00 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:42:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget
In-Reply-To: <976673.50378.qm@web84203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<976673.50378.qm@web84203.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <189591.32660.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

No puff of blue smoke....
I'll check the cable play and pull the plugs to see if they are fouled.
Not me sputtering!

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: DAVID GROPPER <kk7ss at verizon.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 1:30:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget

Ed,

Su's do not have an accelerator pump or an enrichment pump.
Depressing the gas pedal a few times has no purpose...

When it does start, do you get a puff of black smoke out the tail pipe?
IMHO, if so, either the choke is too far out or the float levels are too high


I just *know* someone will correct me if I'm wrong ;-)

BTW who sputters?? You? or the car!

Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>

> I had my dual SU HS2 carbs rebuilt for my 1275.  The car RUNS great, but 
> starting first thing in the morning is painful.  Am I doing something 
> wrong?  I have an electric fuel pump....do I need to wait a certain amount 
> of time before trying to start it in the morning?  This only happens when 
> it's cold.  It takes about 8-10 tries to get it started.  Starting 
> afterward is fine.  This may sound stupid, but is there a process for 
> this?  

1. Pull choke out
2. Turn key to start fuel pump
3. 
> Wait about 30 seconds
4. Depress gas pedal a couple of times
5. Crank, 
> crank, crank, crank, crank......sputter sputter, start.
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Mar 18 14:18:51 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:18:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget
In-Reply-To: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1125407902.20100318141851@pacifier.com>

Hello Edward,

     It seems to mine to depend upon the exact carb-tune settings.
     I've had it where it starts immediately after touching the
     starter, thru having to crank it 4 or five times, depending upon
     how rich the mixture, with no discernable difference (at least to
     me) in the performance.

     That said, it always seems to fire off better (when cold, that is
     not having run in a couple of weeks) if I turn on the key, let
     the fuel pump run until it quiets down, say 5 seconds or so,
     before I hit the starter. Slightly cracking the throttle also
     seems to help.

     YMMV

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Brain: The apparatus with which we think that we think. 

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Mar 18 14:51:28 2010
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:51:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinders
In-Reply-To: <20100317.133946.28451.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <20100318225112.5478218766B@autox.team.net>

Mark, the smoothcase clutch fork and the ribcase fork are not
interchangeable. The pivot point on the arm attaches at a different point on
the tranny. If you try to install the wrong one it will not line up with the
input shaft on the tranny, easy to see if you try to do it.  The other
difference is the way the throw out bearing is attached to the fork. The
smoothcase bearing has a hole in the end of the arms for the spring to go
in, the ribcase uses a clip. I think you could use a smoothcase bearing in a
ribcase but not the other way around.
		Crash 


Is there a difference between the 1275 and 948 slave cylinder other than the
hose connection? Bore diameter?, throw? and is there a difference in the
throw
out forks and why? 

Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar 18 17:52:05 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:52:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A rear seal kit
Message-ID: <AC5773FB192A4CC982D7706746F94DB8@HomePC>

Hey, all, does anybody know if anybody is sending out Paul A's rear seal kits
for a 1275?  My bro-in-law ordered one from Paul just before Paul's latest
health problem.  He wants to get his motor together soon and needs either a
kit or a copy of the instructions so that he can get it done.  Peter C has
been good enough to give him instructions by phone, but he really prefers pics
etc. in front of him.  He is new to LBC's and what is second nature to some is
new territory for others.

By the way, a kit would be preferable so that Paul doesn't get circumvented.

TIA,

Larry Daniels

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 18 17:59:29 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:59:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel studs.....buy new, or remove and retain?
Message-ID: <343504.34833.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a replacement hub I need to install on the rear axle on my Midget.  When I received it, it did not have the wheel studs (unlike in the pic when I bought it).   I hate when the item pictured is not the exact item.  
Do I remove my existing studs, or buy new?  
Are the new ones pressed in as you torque your wheel on?  I
I have alloys, is that a problem?  
If I am to use the existing ones, is there a process to remove them without damage? 
Where is  a good resource for these? (Ed?)

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 18:10:43 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:10:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel studs.....buy new, or remove and retain?
In-Reply-To: <343504.34833.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <343504.34833.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9911003181810o510d2d52qa66ed88bb5a853c9@mail.gmail.com>

I've done both, removed/reinstalled and installed new.  New is always
better than used, if you can find quality new parts and wait for them
to arrive.
I usually seat them in a press but I have used a spare lug nut and
washer to seat the studs.  I would not just rely on torquing the
wheels on to seat the studs.
To remove them without damage use a press with a piece of brass on the
top of the stud or hammer them out with a brass rod or such and ball
peen hammer.
Wear safety glasses, handle all equipment properly, use jack stands, ets.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar 18 18:15:54 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:15:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A rear seal kit
In-Reply-To: <AC5773FB192A4CC982D7706746F94DB8@HomePC>
References: <AC5773FB192A4CC982D7706746F94DB8@HomePC>
Message-ID: <E4CEDEEE12D34091BB496E5B148E13F2@HomePC>

Thanks, everybody.  I have received a pdf of the instructions.  I'll just 
have him cut Paul a check.  Where is the best place to send it?  Shop? 
G'friends?  Anybody have the address and her name?

Larry

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:52 PM
To: "Bugeye Yahoo Group" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; "Spridgets List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A rear seal kit

Hey, all, does anybody know if anybody is sending out Paul A's rear seal 
kits
for a 1275?  My bro-in-law ordered one from Paul just before Paul's latest
health problem.  He wants to get his motor together soon and needs either a
kit or a copy of the instructions so that he can get it done.  Peter C has
been good enough to give him instructions by phone, but he really prefers 
pics
etc. in front of him.  He is new to LBC's and what is second nature to some 
is
new territory for others.

By the way, a kit would be preferable so that Paul doesn't get circumvented.

TIA,

Larry Daniels
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 18 18:18:43 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:18:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget
In-Reply-To: <201003181227329.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201003181227329.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <282406.5606.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

You nailed it, Peter...  still lots of play when it's pulled out.  I'll snug it up and try it in the morning.  

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
To: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 1:27:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget

Ed, pull choke out, then open bonnet and feel if you can pull even more on the cable... or push down on the choke linkage. I find that just that extra little bit.. maybe 1/8" matters a lot.
        Peter C

At 03:14 PM 3/18/2010, Edward Perez wrote:
> I had my dual SU HS2 carbs rebuilt for my 1275.  The car RUNS great, but starting first thing in the morning is painful.  Am I doing something wrong?  I have an electric fuel pump....do I need to wait a certain amount of time before trying to start it in the morning?  This only happens when it's cold.  It takes about 8-10 tries to get it started.  Starting afterward is fine.  This may sound stupid, but is there a process for this?
> 
> 1. Pull choke out
> 2. Turn key to start fuel pump
> 3. Wait about 30 seconds
> 4. Depress gas pedal a couple of times
> 5. Crank, crank, crank, crank, crank......sputter sputter, start.
> 
>  Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> _______________________________________________

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Mar 18 18:50:59 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:50:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Stuff !!
Message-ID: <4BA2D883.2010204@justbrits.com>

I have updated all three [3] lists of items For Sale
on my site as of today as I have had an edict from
SWMBO !!!!!

There are some MGA, MGB and Spridget things in
Parts F.S. !

There is a goodly amount of Healey [Big & Small]
items in Memorabilia F.S. !!

I DO have more to add, so please watch !!

Happy hunting & Good Luck !!!


Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 18 19:09:12 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 19:09:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel studs.....buy new, or remove and retain?
In-Reply-To: <343504.34833.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <343504.34833.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W4BB6A4F3A15BC0D673E29CA2A0@phx.gbl>

Ed
I have often popped out old studs for reuse by threading a common lug-nut on
the stud until the stud is about 1/8" BELOW the face of the nut and then just
hitting it with a 2 pound hammer. Usually they pop out in one or two hits and
then unthread the nut and remove the stud.
If you need some studs I have a rear axle which happens to be missing the
axles and Rich is stopping by tomorrow to pick up a green car.
BillM

> Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:59:29 -0700
> From: eap2140 at yahoo.com
> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel studs.....buy new, or remove and retain?
>
> I have a replacement hub I need to install on the rear axle on my Midget.
When I received it, it did not have the wheel studs (unlike in the pic when I
bought it).   I hate when the item pictured is not the exact item.
> Do I remove my existing studs, or buy new?
> Are the new ones pressed in as you torque your wheel on?  I
> I have alloys, is that a problem?
> If I am to use the existing ones, is there a process to remove them without
damage?
> Where is  a good resource for these? (Ed?)
>
>  Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Mar 18 20:18:27 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:18:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel studs.....buy new, or remove and retain?
In-Reply-To: <343504.34833.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <343504.34833.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BA2ED03.5070904@justbrits.com>

<< I have alloys, is that a problem? >>

Kinda, Ed [da*n that's a GREAT name <G>].

<< Where is a good resource for these? (Ed?) >>

Knock one out and head for a local Hot Rod shop
would most likely be your best bet.  Thanks for
thinks of me tho <G> !!!

Me

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Mar 18 22:42:50 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:42:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
In-Reply-To: <a25387ed1003181747r13cfef79kf71b1e5f0b6d0c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <177053915.20100318142819@pacifier.com>
	<a25387ed1003181747r13cfef79kf71b1e5f0b6d0c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1863638219.20100318224250@pacifier.com>

This is a forwarded message
From: lillis l larson <lillis.larson at gmail.com>
To: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
Date: Thursday, March 18, 2010, 5:47:28 PM
Subject: Paul A.

===8<==============Original message text===============
Th;anks for writing.  Paul just came back from the local rehab
place...he will be having speech, occupational and physical therapy
this month and next.  He gets around pretty well...but the memory
thing is not there yet.  He requires 23 hr. supervision, but he eats
well, dresses and grooms himself.  His speech is not good yet, and I
can't always guess at comprehension or emotions.

His sons from Boston and Reno will be here for almost 2 weeks, while I
go to Arizona to visit my grand kids (I need a break).  Paul will be
with me in April, until the end of the month when I go to Turkey for a
month.  Paul will be going to Boston to live with his youngest son and
family.

They have decided it is time to sell Morriservice and Paul's house.
Anybody want to buy a MMinor or two or three???  Paul know about this,
but again, I don't know what he really understands.  They will begin
to clear the house.  There are a lot of customers without their stuff,
and we are hopeless to figure it out, and Paul can't now, either.

He seems content, and they say he is strong.  We need to get more
serious about exercises every day...starting tomorrow!  No one knows
for sure how far he will come back...it is  still early in the
process.  One big change is in the amount he talks...WAY down from
normal.  It is hard to connect the thoughts into words.


Wait and see is still the operational mode.  I'm glad I could be here
for him, but I can't do it all forever.  I'm still recovering from the
serious burns I got last summer.  Enough seems like enough.  I'll let
Paul know you asked.

Lillis

On 3/18/10, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> Hello lillis,
>
>   hoping for an update on Paul's condtion?
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
>       * "That's OK!" said Tom finally.
>
>


===8<===========End of original message text===========



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Mar 19 06:33:21 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:33:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye DIY Repro tunnel rubber
In-Reply-To: <BD845D974399431EBC46328C5F530131@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <716208.62920.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Very impressive.

jay

--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye DIY Repro tunnel rubber
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 1:11 AM

I did this a while ago, just getting around to sharing the pictures..
http://tinyurl.com/yz4otfg
or...
http://s295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/Tunnel%20Rubber/?a
lbumview=slideshow

This is the groved rubber from RubberCal that I also used for the door panels.
I carefully laid out templates with paper and then cut the top and sides
pieces out of the rubber. The rubber ribs were cut off with a razor and then
these areas sanded smooth with a vibratory sander.

The top smoothed areas (flaps) laid over the side smoothed areas and were
glued with Gel cyanoacrylate (Locktite brand).
SBR rubber bonds really well with this.

The end result looks like a single molded piece.  Not too far from factory
look & feel.  Matches up well with my old
set of Ampco mats.   It tooks some effort, but I like it better than the
carpet option.

I still want to put the flange around the edge like the original.  I cut up a
cheap rubber SUV mat from Biglots.
Just have'nt figured out how to glue that up yet.
Next up, side curtain re-felting...

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 19 09:46:24 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:46:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Stuff !!
In-Reply-To: <8CC957E2E1E231E-43C8-1AA80@webmail-m091.sysops.aol.com>
References: <4BA2D883.2010204@justbrits.com>
	<8CC957E2E1E231E-43C8-1AA80@webmail-m091.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4BA3AA60.2000802@justbrits.com>

<< This date of a posting leaves that question in doubt:

*Updated 29/21/10 !* >>

Now that you have driven me CLOSER to insanity Jay,
WHERE is that "date" ???   Dam*ed if I can find it !?!

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 19 09:48:33 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:48:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Stuff !!
In-Reply-To: <a3b984e11003190625g44293e1ey5c892d2fb7ae9335@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BA2D883.2010204@justbrits.com>	
	<8CC957E2E1E231E-43C8-1AA80@webmail-m091.sysops.aol.com>
	<a3b984e11003190625g44293e1ey5c892d2fb7ae9335@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA3AAE1.5040902@justbrits.com>

<< Ed uses a Whitworth calendar. >>

Lord NO Rick, tools are bad enough !! <G>
 
Huuum, tnx for idea !!  Got some extra of those I
should let go <G> !!

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 19 09:50:50 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:50:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Stuff !!
In-Reply-To: <EF529DA8-06C7-49BB-B954-77118D9A3E06@gmail.com>
References: <4BA2D883.2010204@justbrits.com>
	<8CC957E2E1E231E-43C8-1AA80@webmail-m091.sysops.aol.com>
	<EF529DA8-06C7-49BB-B954-77118D9A3E06@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA3AB6A.6080407@justbrits.com>

CLOSE, Paul <G> !!

<< That's Chicago for you.  >>


Yer right about THAT but [thank G*d] I escaped
living in City or equally as bad - Cook Co, <VBG> !!

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 19 09:52:26 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:52:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] Stuff !!
In-Reply-To: <5caeedb51003182222q6b68d101wbcb3f2eb7ca2b0f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BA2D883.2010204@justbrits.com>
	<5caeedb51003182222q6b68d101wbcb3f2eb7ca2b0f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA3ABCA.2040907@justbrits.com>

<< my car is still for sale and i appreciate it on your site. >>

Glad to do it, Ron !!

Just wish somebody would buy her that would be
such as good a caretaker as you have been !!

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 19 11:25:28 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:25:28 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheel studs.....buy new, or remove and retain?
Message-ID: <1da7e.3dcdd7f7.38d51b98@aol.com>

What everyone else said + measure the length of the stud and the diameter  
(or work out what size thread it is because it's likely your alloy wheels 
either  use a non standad stud (bit longer) or maybe ought to.
 
In a message dated 19/03/2010 01:03:20 GMT Standard Time, eap2140 at yahoo.com 
 writes:

Do I  remove my existing studs, or buy new?  
Are the new ones pressed in as  you torque your wheel on?  I
I have alloys, is that a problem?   

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 19 13:09:27 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:09:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: ogeye Club..... News from Blighty]
Message-ID: <4BA3D9F7.2060903@justbrits.com>

 From the Bugeye List !!! Nice <G> !!! Who is gonna
be FIRST to get one ???

-------- Original Message --------

Here's a little newsie-news item that some might enjoy:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1259137/McLaren-takes-Ferrari-affordable-green-supercar-dubbed-F1-car-road.html#ixzz0idqVBoeS 
<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1259137/McLaren-takes-Ferrari-affordable-green-supercar-dubbed-F1-car-road.html#ixzz0idqVBoeS> 


The article measures the engine output by the number of Ford Fiesta that 
represents. I wonder how many bugeye sprite equivalents that translates 
to? Let's see, 600 divided by 43...

George in Maryland

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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 19 14:46:23 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:46:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget
In-Reply-To: <201003181227329.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <670866.18177.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201003181227329.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <765205.2046.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Started the first time!  SWeeeeetT!

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
To: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 1:27:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Basic starting procedure for Spridget

Ed, pull choke out, then open bonnet and feel if you can pull even more on the cable... or push down on the choke linkage. I find that just that extra little bit.. maybe 1/8" matters a lot.
        Peter C

At 03:14 PM 3/18/2010, Edward Perez wrote:
> I had my dual SU HS2 carbs rebuilt for my 1275.  The car RUNS great, but starting first thing in the morning is painful.  Am I doing something wrong?  I have an electric fuel pump....do I need to wait a certain amount of time before trying to start it in the morning?  This only happens when it's cold.  It takes about 8-10 tries to get it started.  Starting afterward is fine.  This may sound stupid, but is there a process for this?
> 
> 1. Pull choke out
> 2. Turn key to start fuel pump
> 3. Wait about 30 seconds
> 4. Depress gas pedal a couple of times
> 5. Crank, crank, crank, crank, crank......sputter sputter, start.
> 
>  Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> _______________________________________________

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 19 16:15:53 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:15:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] 64 Sprite for sale in Kansas...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003181340q60b5841bm2328a5cf415341b1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e1003181340q60b5841bm2328a5cf415341b1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA405A9.5040503@justbrits.com>

Jim Johnson wrote and I ......
<quote>
<< Got this via email today and promised the guy I'd post it to
the lists.... NFI....etc. >>
</quote>

I had sense enough to write the Seller and ask
WHERE is the car.  His reply:
<quote>
**It is located in Abilene, KS.
</quote>

Nice looking car.  NFI, yada, yada !!

Ed

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Mar 19 18:03:01 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:03:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
In-Reply-To: <a25387ed1003191747h733ffe4ne18e3e2d184bc33@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f1003190913p425ed85bgd01fa920a7cfdc98@mail.gmail.com>
	<1408958186.20100319174131@pacifier.com>
	<a25387ed1003191747h733ffe4ne18e3e2d184bc33@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <303149233.20100319180301@pacifier.com>

This is a forwarded message
From: lillis l larson <lillis.larson at gmail.com>
To: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>
Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 5:47:22 PM
Subject: Paul A.

===8<==============Original message text===============
Wow...the offer of help is GREAT.  I'll pass it on to Joey and Tom.
They will be in Oregon March 24- April 4, and might like help knowing
what is what in the shop.  My phone number is 503 585 1211 which
should reach the sons while I am in AZ.

The bigger sale (if there is one) would likely happen when Joey comes
back to pick up his dad, and while I am in Turkey: April 28- ?  Maybe
the lst weekend in May?

Heartfelt thanks, Lillis

On 3/19/10, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
> This is a forwarded message
> From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
> To: pythias at pacifier.com
> Date: Friday, March 19, 2010, 9:13:29 AM
> Subject: Paul A.
>
> ===8<==============Original message text===============
> Hi Bill,
>
> Does Lillis know about the group of us who want to help?
>
> If there's going to be a sale of stuff from Morriservice we really should
> help, Paul will need to get all the funds possible.
> Plus people who know the true value of things and care about Paul should be
> there to help.
> One idea is to describe a bunch of stuff to the list and on the BCF and the
> MG BBS and let the community help by buying things.
>
> Besides that, we (the NOSHIT guys) could buy a few things too.
> Paul had one 5 speed there that he thought was mine and I had to tell him it
> wasn't.
> He had no idea where it came from.
> I know where it came from because I sent him emails whenever I would see one
> come up on Craigslist in Portland and he would go buy it.
> Anyway, he probably put my name on it because of that. I told him it wasn't
> mine, I'd be happy to buy it now though.
>
> I'd also like to come down and spend a day or a weekend helping out, as I
> know that BillM and Ed & Rich would too.
> I'm not emailing Lillis even though you included her email address, because
> you are the one having the conversation with her.
> If she wants to communicate with us all as a group, (you, me, BillM, Ed,
> Rich) that might be useful.
> Please let us know what we can do.
>
> Rick
>
>
>


===8<===========End of original message text===========



-- 
Best regards,
 Bill                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 19 18:14:16 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:14:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: ogeye Club..... News from Blighty]
References: <4BA3D9F7.2060903@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <05487F40B38A42AAA6262444C33A7ECB@leovs802bt6yj7>

ever heard of tiny url?   VBG

Leo

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Mar 19 18:22:24 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:22:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A's Stuff
Message-ID: <9DC115B0AB5F41B1BB5F60C0960B927F@HomePC>

Peter C, have you given any thought to taking over Paul's rear seal kits and
Datsun 5 speed conversion packages, etc.?  It would be great to keep this all
within the same community.  I can't think of anybody who could do a better job
of continuing Paul's work.  You have the machine shop, the distribution
channels and the knowledge and LBC spirit that Paul had.  It would be a crime
to see it all die off with Paul's retirement, wouldn't it?

What do you other's think?  We need to keep Paul's spirit alive, who could do
it better?

Larry Daniels

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Mar 19 18:29:57 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:29:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A's Stuff
In-Reply-To: <9DC115B0AB5F41B1BB5F60C0960B927F@HomePC>
References: <9DC115B0AB5F41B1BB5F60C0960B927F@HomePC>
Message-ID: <0FB4EE7B6B504E718C6B561BB1A723DF@spider>

In a perfect world, this would be the thing to do.
I am a newbie so have little to offer at 68. ...bill, south of Salem Oregon.
===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 6:22 PM
To: Bugeye Yahoo Group; Bugeye Sprites; Spridgets List
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A's Stuff

Peter C, have you given any thought to taking over Paul's rear seal kits and
Datsun 5 speed conversion packages, etc.?  It would be great to keep this
all
within the same community.  I can't think of anybody who could do a better
job
of continuing Paul's work.  You have the machine shop, the distribution
channels and the knowledge and LBC spirit that Paul had.  It would be a
crime
to see it all die off with Paul's retirement, wouldn't it?

What do you other's think?  We need to keep Paul's spirit alive, who could
do
it better?

Larry Daniels
_______________________________________________

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 19 18:31:01 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:31:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
References: <fbc9308f1003190913p425ed85bgd01fa920a7cfdc98@mail.gmail.com><1408958186.20100319174131@pacifier.com><a25387ed1003191747h733ffe4ne18e3e2d184bc33@mail.gmail.com>
	<303149233.20100319180301@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <ED938340BEE2497E9B28B2BC7D671DFB@leovs802bt6yj7>

There is a five speed there along with an aluminum flywheel and a steel 
flywheel along with the trans ancillaries that would be appreciated back in 
Texas by z lister if possible when the sons get there to sort through 
things.  It belongs to Martin Cooper in Austin TX

Leo 

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 19 19:53:06 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:53:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
Message-ID: <F826B2E5F311419E951878FD9EA7797F@leovs802bt6yj7>

this was meant for the Bill's only.  Friggin eyes and hitting send before I
scanned it into my retina.  Sorry so everyone disregard except for the Bill's

Leo

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 19 20:06:07 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:06:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
In-Reply-To: <F826B2E5F311419E951878FD9EA7797F@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <F826B2E5F311419E951878FD9EA7797F@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <4BA43B9F.10901@justbrits.com>

<< Sorry so everyone disregard except for the Bill's >>

The MIND is the 1st thing to go, Leo <G> !!!!

Anon

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 19 20:29:06 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:29:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
References: <F826B2E5F311419E951878FD9EA7797F@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<4BA43B9F.10901@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4F06E7ECE9F34EBDA1CCF04552208DA4@leovs802bt6yj7>

no. with me it is the eyes. My Mother told me "it" would make me go blind 
but never told me she was serious


:)

Leo 

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 19 20:45:05 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:45:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
In-Reply-To: <F826B2E5F311419E951878FD9EA7797F@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <F826B2E5F311419E951878FD9EA7797F@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <342514.53178.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

It's not a big deal, Leo.... we all want to help Paul sort things out.  Just not sure how to.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Leo S <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>; Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>; spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 7:53:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.

this was meant for the Bill's only.  Friggin eyes and hitting send before I
scanned it into my retina.  Sorry so everyone disregard except for the Bill's

Leo
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 19 21:08:02 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:08:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
References: <F826B2E5F311419E951878FD9EA7797F@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<342514.53178.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A3F2ED327B784C689C7929A052ED6BEC@leovs802bt6yj7>

this is true.  I don't think the answer will come easily but after being
involved with many members on this list for over twenty years dating all the
way back to "chicken de-beakers" and "PDLJMPR" I am sure the answer will
evolve.  Never say never to this list's members.

Leo

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 19 21:42:54 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:42:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
In-Reply-To: <A3F2ED327B784C689C7929A052ED6BEC@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <F826B2E5F311419E951878FD9EA7797F@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<342514.53178.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<A3F2ED327B784C689C7929A052ED6BEC@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <762018.17734.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm pretty darn new to this list and met Paul at the OSHIT for Rich Ball.  He helped me tear down my motor and show me what the problems were.  I was hopeful that he would show up for my OSHIT, but Lillis had her accident and he could not leave her.  Paul is a great guy and I wish him well in his recovery.  If there is anything we can do for him and his family, us guys/gals in the NW are willing to make it happen.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Leo S <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>; Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>; spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, March 19, 2010 9:08:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.

 
this is true.  I don't think the answer will come 
easily but after being involved with many members on this list for over twenty 
years dating all the way back to "chicken de-beakers" and "PDLJMPR" I am sure 
the answer will evolve.  Never say never to this list's 
members.
 
Leo

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 19 21:45:21 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:45:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
References: <fbc9308f1003190913p425ed85bgd01fa920a7cfdc98@mail.gmail.com><1408958186.20100319174131@pacifier.com><a25387ed1003191747h733ffe4ne18e3e2d184bc33@mail.gmail.com><303149233.20100319180301@pacifier.com>
	<ED938340BEE2497E9B28B2BC7D671DFB@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <DD2D37CC01F24D22BC8B4909D72DB7B6@leovs802bt6yj7>

Speaking of being on the list for a long time... Who remembers when a 
certain item used to "cool' the private parts of a camel rider in the middle 
east was offered for sale on E-bay....Was quite a topic for the sale 
time....:)  All the old timers step forward.

Leo 

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Mar 19 22:20:09 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:20:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
References: <fbc9308f1003190913p425ed85bgd01fa920a7cfdc98@mail.gmail.com><1408958186.20100319174131@pacifier.com><a25387ed1003191747h733ffe4ne18e3e2d184bc33@mail.gmail.com><303149233.20100319180301@pacifier.com><ED938340BEE2497E9B28B2BC7D671DFB@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<DD2D37CC01F24D22BC8B4909D72DB7B6@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <73C28F61E7B547B5A5A876B42593CB2A@blackbox2>

> Speaking of being on the list for a long time... Who remembers when a 
> certain item used to "cool' the private parts of a camel rider in the middle 
> east was offered for sale on E-bay....Was quite a topic for the sale 
> time....:)  All the old timers step forward.
> 
> Leo 

Ah yes, I remember it well.

That was the Slurpy I picked before my historic Gobbi desert crossing of  '75.

It's hard to believe that somebody on ebay would pay over $100 for an empty Slurpy cup.
But as I am sure you can understand, in this case it was all about the provenance of the cup.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Mar 20 02:28:06 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:28:06 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
Message-ID: <2e468.5cc96736.38d5ef26@aol.com>

The hervais thing?
 
In a message dated 20/03/2010 04:46:15 GMT Standard Time,  
60bugeye at cebridge.net writes:

Speaking  of being on the list for a long time... Who remembers when a 
certain item  used to "cool' the private parts of a camel rider in the 
middle 
east was  offered for sale on E-bay....Was quite a topic for the sale  
time....:)  All the old timers step forward.

Leo  

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar 20 11:17:05 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:17:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
In-Reply-To: <4F06E7ECE9F34EBDA1CCF04552208DA4@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <F826B2E5F311419E951878FD9EA7797F@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<4BA43B9F.10901@justbrits.com>
	<4F06E7ECE9F34EBDA1CCF04552208DA4@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <4BA51121.4060300@justbrits.com>

<<no. with me it is the eyes. My Mother told me "it" would make
me go blind but never told me she was serious >>

No Leo, "I" am CORRECT and you just proved it !! LOL

You 'forgot' what you Mother told you !!!!

<smirk>

Anon

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Mar 20 11:18:04 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:18:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Washer?
Message-ID: <d49b03131003201118k42c2b9b4keeca6e1b0383b707@mail.gmail.com>

You guys that have done the Morriservice 5 speed conversion to your
spridget.  Do you remember if there was a fiber washer or any type of washer
to seal the speedo reduction gear box connection that Paul included when you
told him the tire diameter you were using?  I have a constant leak that I
think is coming for there after I re-installed the speedo cable after it
fell off at the transmission end at LotO in Missouri over a year ago.  I
have been wiping up and refilling the trans ever since.  It  had gotten
pretty low on oil recently and I complained to the list about crunching
going in and out of third gear.  I drained it before the last car show and
discovered I had a GL-5 gear oil in it.  Paul's instructions recommended a
GL-4 spec gear oil, so I re-filled it with the correct oil.  I don't know if
it was because the oil spec changed or the fact that the trans was full now
instead of low, but it now crunched in 2nd gear and went fine into 3rd!?!  I
am using a regular based gear oil, not a synthetic.  Now I am wondering what
Redline MT-90 would do?  I still need to swap out the after market synchros
with the Datsun ones Paul sent me over a year ago, but if I can put it off
while I am working on the BN2...
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Mar 20 11:22:03 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:22:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: Paul A.
In-Reply-To: <DD2D37CC01F24D22BC8B4909D72DB7B6@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <fbc9308f1003190913p425ed85bgd01fa920a7cfdc98@mail.gmail.com><1408958186.20100319174131@pacifier.com><a25387ed1003191747h733ffe4ne18e3e2d184bc33@mail.gmail.com><303149233.20100319180301@pacifier.com>
	<ED938340BEE2497E9B28B2BC7D671DFB@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<DD2D37CC01F24D22BC8B4909D72DB7B6@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <4BA5124B.2030207@justbrits.com>

<< Was quite a topic for the sale time.... >>

Whilst true Leo, I would have to say that he 'subject'
of Montana Bob er "outlasted" any other <VBG> ?!?!?

That or the 'newer' 'subject' of me collecting return
parts & MONEY [at cost] from the recipient of an
East Coast [and original] OSHIT "chick" <G><G><G> !!!!!!

Ed

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 13:16:05 2010
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:16:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A.
In-Reply-To: <C7CAA142.641%jasgeirsson@comcast.net>
References: <C7CAA142.641%jasgeirsson@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <fbc9308f1003201316xb88e62fv2af9d063e2b779dc@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the message Joey,

I think that the two weeks you have mentioned are going to be a constraint
but not one that will be impossible.
Personally I have the weekend of the 27th and 28th free, but the rest of
that time I will be required at work.
If it's just me by myself or if anyone can join me I can be there over that
weekend.
I have friends in Vancouver who I can visit and most likely can stay
overnight in a nearby motel.

If that weekend works for you then I'm all yours, at the very least I can
most likely point out the difference between scrap and not.

Also if a weekend later in April becomes a possibility then I could do that
too.

I'm copying this to some of the group so everyone who can come will know
about it, maybe we can do a carpool.
If any of you guys know of someone else who should know then please forward
to them.

N.O.S.H.I.T. guys - can any of you go the weekend of March 27 - 28?

Rick Bastedo


On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 12:58 PM, J Asgeirsson
<jasgeirsson at comcast.net>wrote:

>  Hi Rick,
>
> Thank you very much for your email and offer of help.  It makes me feel
> great to see how many people care so much about my Dad.  I know when he
> started all of this, he just wanted to work on the cars he loved, he never
> expected to have such an impact on so many people.
>
> Our goal is the same as yours, my Dad needs as much money as possible right
> now.  As you can imagine, the medical bills are starting to add up, so the
> more parts, cars, kits, etc. that we can sell the better off he will be.
>   My Dad has a very small amount of savings, and after a month of trying to
> figure things out, weve realized that his Morriservice business and home
> are really his only assets.  To help him meet his current and future
> obligations, we spoke with my Dad earlier this week and collectively
decided
> that it is time to sell these assets.  My brother and I will be in Portland
> from Tuesday, March 23rd through Monday April 6th., to start that process.
>   Also, at the end of April, my wife (Janene) and I will be moving my Dad
> out to live with us in the Boston area, until we get a sense of his
recovery
> and whether or not he will once again be able to live on his own.
>
> I have been receiving emails for the past few weeks from customers who have
> active orders and some from folks for whom my Dad still has some parts.  I
> will certainly need help identifying those.  If any of you guys are
> available during the time noted above to help out with this process, that
> would be fantastic.  Please let me know what day you have in mind.
>  Regarding the sale of his Morriservice business, we have had two inquiries
> from people interested in buying the business, so taking a inventory of
what
> is in my Dads shop is going to need to be done.  I will have a tough time
> telling the difference between something of value and something that is
> headed for the scrap heap.  So, again, any help you and your group are able
> to provide is much appreciated.
>
> If you would like to reach me before or during my trip, my cell is
> 508-631-3092.  Thanks again for all of your help and support of my Dad.
>
> -- Joey

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 20 13:36:46 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:36:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A.
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f1003201316xb88e62fv2af9d063e2b779dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C7CAA142.641%jasgeirsson@comcast.net>
	<fbc9308f1003201316xb88e62fv2af9d063e2b779dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <507854.69078.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm out of town, but if you need to borrow my truck, you are welcome to it.  I
have several drop hitches that will accommodate BillM's tow dolly.

 Edward
Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
________________________________
From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
To: J
Asgeirsson <jasgeirsson at comcast.net>
Cc: lillis l larson
<lillis.larson at gmail.com>; Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com>; Bill Masquelier
<billmasq at hotmail.com>; Richard Ball <richb at u.washington.edu>; Edward Perez
<eap2140 at yahoo.com>; SPRIDGETS <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sat, March 20,
2010 1:16:05 PM
Subject: Re: Paul A.

Thanks for the message Joey,

I think
that the two weeks you have mentioned are going to be a constraint but not one
that will be impossible.
Personally I have the weekend of the 27th and 28th
free, but the rest of that time I will be required at work.
If it's just me by
myself or if anyone can join me I can be there over that weekend.
I have
friends in Vancouver who I can visit and most likely can stay overnight in a
nearby motel.

If that weekend works for you then I'm all yours, at the very
least I can most likely point out the difference between scrap and not.

Also
if a weekend later in April becomes a possibility then I could do that too.
I'm copying this to some of the group so everyone who can come will 
know
about it, maybe we can do a carpool. 
If any of you guys know of someone else
who should know then please forward to them.

N.O.S.H.I.T. guys - can any of
you go the weekend of March 27 - 28?

Rick Bastedo



On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at
12:58 PM, J Asgeirsson <jasgeirsson at comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
>
>
>Hi Rick,
>>
>>>>Thank you very much for your email and offer of help.  It makes me feel
great to see how many people care so much about my Dad.  I know when he
started all of this, he just wanted to work on the cars he loved, he never
expected to have such an impact on so many people.
>>
>>>>Our goal is the same
as yours, my Dad needs as much money as possible right now.  As you can
imagine, the medical bills are starting to add up, so the more parts, cars,
kits, etc. that we can sell the better off he will be.   My Dad has a very
small amount of savings, and after a month of trying to figure things out,
webve realized that his Morriservice business and home are really his only
assets.  To help him meet his current and future obligations, we spoke with my
Dad earlier this week and collectively decided that it is time to sell these
assets.  My brother and I will be in Portland from Tuesday, March 23rd through
Monday April 6th., to start that process.   Also, at the end of April, my wife
(Janene) and I will be moving my Dad out to live with us in the Boston area,
until we get a sense of his recovery and whether or not he will once again be
able to live on his own.
>>
>>>>I have been receiving emails for the past few
weeks from customers who have active orders and some from folks for whom my
Dad still has some parts.  I will certainly need help identifying those.  If
any of you guys are available during the time noted above to help out with
this process, that would be fantastic.  Please let me know what day you have
in mind.  Regarding the sale of his Morriservice business, we have had two
inquiries from people interested in buying the business, so taking a inventory
of what is in my Dadbs shop is going to need to be done.  I will have a
tough time telling the difference between something of value and something
that is headed for the scrap heap.  So, again, any help you and your group are
able to provide is much appreciated.  
>>
>>>>If you would like to reach me
before or during my trip, my cell is 508-631-3092.  Thanks again for all of
your help and support of my Dad.
>>
>>>>-- Joey

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Mar 20 16:18:59 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:18:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fiberglass bonnet
Message-ID: <8C0CA271A2274487914B752AA2B426F1@Home>

Would people who have put BE bonnets on Square bodies please contact me off-list?  I have questions about hinges, fit, etc.

Thanks,
Michael Rowe

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 20 16:23:05 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:23:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Montana Bob
Message-ID: <627603.59537.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I showed up a few months before MB made his famous exit.  Talk about shooting
your way out of town.  Only one I ever saw better was this one: 
http://www.300cforums.com/forums/general-discussion/21978-efool-gets-punked-h
is-own-board.html

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 17:04:45 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:04:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>

What is the capacity that I am looking for to refill my rib case gear box
now that I have it back in the car?

Thanks for ALL THE HELP I get from so many of you on the list.   It is so
appreciated.

Kirk
59

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Mar 20 17:23:18 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:23:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <199899272.20100320172318@pacifier.com>

Hello Kirk,

     pull the fill plug and pour as much motor oil as fits. It's that
     simple.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular. 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 17:35:01 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:35:01 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9911003201735l2f6b09cdjf9d029245fc8a4a4@mail.gmail.com>

What he said, but pour in through the shifter hole.

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Mar 20 18:00:57 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:00:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D36D9B2F7D554EEFB2EB7ACC197FED70@RickPC>

Fill it until the oil runs out of the fill hole.  Then put the plug in.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:04 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case


> What is the capacity that I am looking for to refill my rib case gear box
> now that I have it back in the car?
> 
> Thanks for ALL THE HELP I get from so many of you on the list.   It is so
> appreciated.
> 
> Kirk
> 59

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Mar 20 18:11:36 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:11:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9911003201735l2f6b09cdjf9d029245fc8a4a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>,
	<5f00d9911003201735l2f6b09cdjf9d029245fc8a4a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W454DBED556E9FFA6967570CA280@phx.gbl>

About 1 1/4 quarts will fill an empty tranny.
BillM

> Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:35:01 -0600
> From: derf247 at gmail.com
> To: khargreaves2 at gmail.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
>
> What he said, but pour in through the shifter hole.
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 20 19:50:58 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:50:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <23011.37945.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just an irritatingly bit more than a quart, I think it's 1.1 qt per the book.
And remember it's motor oil, not gear oil. 

--- On Sat, 3/20/10, Kirk
Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Kirk Hargreaves
<khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
> To:
spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 7:04 PM
> What is
the capacity that I am
> looking for to refill my rib case gear box
> now that
I have it back in the car?
> 
> Thanks for ALL THE HELP I get from so many of
you on the
> list.   It is so
> appreciated.
> 
> Kirk
> 59
>
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 22:05:40 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:05:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <23011.37945.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>
	<23011.37945.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003202205g7d86ee48m93d004c7ad728e73@mail.gmail.com>

Ron,


I have been running motor oil (as everyone has told me this is the only way
to go).

I am running Rotella 15 - 40 in the engine.  I would guess that I should run
a standard 30 wt in the gear box? (As opposed to the 15 -40
in the engine)?

I have enough synthetic Red Line  20 - 50 sitting on the shelf that would
save me a trip to the auto parts store. .  but do I understand that
synthetic should not be used in the gear box?


Kirk

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Just an irritatingly bit more than a quart, I think it's 1.1 qt per the
> book. And remember it's motor oil, not gear oil.
>
> --- On Sat, 3/20/10, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 7:04 PM
> > What is the capacity that I am
> > looking for to refill my rib case gear box
> > now that I have it back in the car?
> >
> > Thanks for ALL THE HELP I get from so many of you on the
> > list.   It is so
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Kirk
> > 59
> > _______________________________________________
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 21 05:28:03 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:28:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003202205g7d86ee48m93d004c7ad728e73@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <972271.8929.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have heard many opinions, so I'll just give you my own experience. The guy
who built my transmissions for me, Eric Jones, was considered the best by a
lot of people at building durable, robust rally LBCs. He told me to use 30 or
40W non-detergent oil, which you can find in the cheap sections of the store.
He said 10-30 or 10-40 wouldn't hurt it, but straight weight non detergent was
best. It is cheap enough and a job that is done infrequently enough that I
just do exactly what he recommended,

Ron

--- On Sun, 3/21/10, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 12:05 AM

Ron,


I have been running motor oil (as everyone has told me this is the only way to
go). 

I am running Rotella 15 - 40 in the engine.  I would guess that I should run a
standard 30 wt in the gear box? (As opposed to the 15 -40

in the engine)?

I have enough synthetic Red Line  20 - 50 sitting on the shelf that would save
me a trip to the auto parts store. .  but do I understand that synthetic
should not be used in the gear box? 



Kirk

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

Just an irritatingly bit more than a quart, I think it's 1.1 qt per the book.
And remember it's motor oil, not gear oil.


--- On Sat, 3/20/10, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:


> From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>

> Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case

> To: spridgets at autox.team.net

> Date: Saturday, March 20, 2010, 7:04 PM

> What is the capacity that I am

> looking for to refill my rib case gear box

> now that I have it back in the car?

>

> Thanks for ALL THE HELP I get from so many of you on the

> list.   It is so

> appreciated.

>

> Kirk

> 59

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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 21 05:55:47 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 05:55:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] You can own a car fit for a queen....
Message-ID: <501732.63667.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://www.hmthequeensdaimler.com/



 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 21 06:25:17 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:25:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] You can own a car fit for a queen....
In-Reply-To: <501732.63667.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <388246.30346.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

-- On Sun, 3/21/10, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.hmthequeensdaimler.com/

I thought Elton John drove a Bentley?

Anon

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 06:35:20 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 08:35:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] You can own a car fit for a queen....
In-Reply-To: <388246.30346.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <501732.63667.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<388246.30346.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I thought Farookh Bulsara died of AIDS related pneumonia years ago.

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> -- On Sun, 3/21/10, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > http://www.hmthequeensdaimler.com/
>
> I thought Elton John drove a Bentley?
>
> Anon
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sun Mar 21 09:50:16 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:50:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] You can own a car fit for a queen....
In-Reply-To: <388246.30346.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <388246.30346.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D2B2031C-94C6-4E60-9434-6E4FA3CDD2EB@comcast.net>

Old Freddie Mercury ride?


On Mar 21, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Ron Soave wrote:

> -- On Sun, 3/21/10, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> http://www.hmthequeensdaimler.com/
>
> I thought Elton John drove a Bentley?
>
> Anon
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 11:33:13 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:33:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] anyone try this on an LBC.....not me : )
Message-ID: <205cef431003211133y4927429t321778ad51aa469c@mail.gmail.com>

Enjoy this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=celKSkNiwXY&feature=related

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 11:47:13 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:47:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Auto cemetery video
Message-ID: <205cef431003211147k4043f6c3h2cf01ba5f7e65875@mail.gmail.com>

I saw photos posted before but here is a clear video pre-auction
Enjoy.
Linda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb3EIqslC8Y&NR=1

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 12:07:04 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:07:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] anyone try this on an LBC.....not me : )
In-Reply-To: <205cef431003211133y4927429t321778ad51aa469c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef431003211133y4927429t321778ad51aa469c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003211207k3b4973e5h5a51329fa6ae14d3@mail.gmail.com>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=celKSkNiwXY&feature=related

More of a parlor trick than a useful technique. Note that, as you
know, VW belts are adjusted by means of shims between the halves of
the pulley, so changing one like this saves you NO time or effort.
Cute but pointless.
David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Mar 21 12:10:27 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:10:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw:  anyone try this on an LBC.....not me : )
In-Reply-To: <205cef431003211133y4927429t321778ad51aa469c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef431003211133y4927429t321778ad51aa469c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <749361.72497.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

 I think Three-finger Pete pioneered this technique...


Dave 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 12:27:14 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:27:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye DIY Repro tunnel rubber
In-Reply-To: <BD845D974399431EBC46328C5F530131@blackbox2>
References: <BD845D974399431EBC46328C5F530131@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <205cef431003211227t1796696as6df3a89698aa7002@mail.gmail.com>

Dean,
I could only find this Gel cyanoacrylate (Locktite brand). Is this what you
used it's good to know for other applications in the school shop on student
projects using rubber products.

http://www.viewpoints.com/Loctite-Super-Glue-Gel-Control-reviews#product_sort_filter
Thanks and looks sweet,
Lin

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 1:11 AM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I did this a while ago, just getting around to sharing the pictures..
> http://tinyurl.com/yz4otfg
> or...
>
> http://s295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/Tunnel%20Rubber/?albumview=slideshow
>
> This is the groved rubber from RubberCal that I also used for the door
> panels.
> I carefully laid out templates with paper and then cut the top and sides
> pieces out of the rubber. The rubber ribs were cut off with a razor and then
> these areas sanded smooth with a vibratory sander.
>
> The top smoothed areas (flaps) laid over the side smoothed areas and were
> glued with Gel cyanoacrylate (Locktite brand).
> SBR rubber bonds really well with this.
>
> The end result looks like a single molded piece.  Not too far from factory
> look & feel.  Matches up well with my old
> set of Ampco mats.   It tooks some effort, but I like it better than the
> carpet option.
>
> I still want to put the flange around the edge like the original.  I cut up
> a cheap rubber SUV mat from Biglots.
> Just have'nt figured out how to glue that up yet.
> Next up, side curtain re-felting...
>
> and it's way past my bedtime...
>
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Mar 21 12:59:07 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:59:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A---next weekend. march 27, 28
Message-ID: <432720125.20100321125907@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  A general alert that there will be a gathering next weekend at Paul
  A.s house to help "close down" Morris Service, hopefully so that it
  can be sold and to get projects that Paul was working on sent out to
  the respective parties.... I'll send directions to anyone
  interested. His son Joey will be there for sure and hopefully his
  son Tom and perhaps Paul himself...

  There are a couple of people interested in keeping the business
  running and talks are ongoin.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  Iraqi rifle for sale. Never fired. Dropped once. 

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 14:23:55 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 14:23:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all of gave advice on what to run and how much to put in.

Seems that there might be a bit of a difference going on regarding running
motor oil, non-detergent oil. .  etc.

I am using motor oil (non-synthetic).

However. .  I am not totally convinced that synthetic would harm the gear
box.

Back in the day when synthetics came on the market there was a lot of talk
about how they would spin bearings and cause other issues.

A synthetic is the same thing as a non-synthetic. .  only that it's
molecular chain has been equaled out to ten chain molecular links as opposed
to a non-synthetic which can carries different molecular chain lengths.  A
non synthetic chain might have 7 or 3 or whatever is found.  And of course
there can be different additives in the differing products as well.

The ten chain process allows the oil to sustain greater amounts of heat.
Same idea as what it takes to light a phone book or a pile of leaves.  It
also makes it more of a lubricant. . more of a slip factor between metal
surfaces.

Harley Davidson was the biggest hypocrite saying that their bikes must have
the Harley 360 non synthetic product or damage would occur to their engines.


Dealers were also adamant about this.  (And of course the dealers were
carrying 360 on their shelves).

The motor company realized that Harley owners were using Red Line and other
brands of synthetic in their bikes, and that the bikes were running fine, no
issues.  Owners were racking up miles on their bikes with no issues.  (Which
to me says more about frequency of oil changes than whether the oil is
synthetic or not).

I believe that Porsche made it mandatory that the owner uses a synthetic, as
well as Ferrari and other high end automobile manufacturers?

Short story. .  Harley finally came out with their own brand of synthetic.
Their response, "We realize that Harley owners are running different brands
of synthetic oils in their bikes, so we came out with our own
in order to control the type of synthetic oil that our owners should use."

What a crock of )(*7u980. . . Harley's determination was a result of the
free market place and bike owners doing what they thought was best for their
high dollar investments.

Eventually, much of this talk about spinning bearings and causing harm to
different metals and how the parts function seems to have dissipated.

I am playing it safe as so many listers have talked about not using
synthetic in a rib case.  Again, maintenance rules over all.  However I
wonder what, if any real harm would come running synthetic in the box.  and
if their just might be some value to the idea of doing so?

My ramble on the subject!


Kirk
59

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 14:28:41 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:28:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003211428n26bc596cy9d0f7ac408732496@mail.gmail.com>

Kirk,
The issue with synthetic in a gearbox is that it tends to be too
slippery for proper operation of the synchros, leading to lots of
gear-crunching shifts. I lean towards 20W50 myself.
David L


On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks to all of gave advice on what to run and how much to put in.
>
> Seems that there might be a bit of a difference going on regarding running
> motor oil, non-detergent oil. .  etc.
>
> I am using motor oil (non-synthetic).
>
> However. .  I am not totally convinced that synthetic would harm the gear
> box.
>
> Back in the day when synthetics came on the market there was a lot of talk
> about how they would spin bearings and cause other issues.
>
> A synthetic is the same thing as a non-synthetic. .  only that it's
> molecular chain has been equaled out to ten chain molecular links as
opposed
> to a non-synthetic which can carries different molecular chain lengths.  A
> non synthetic chain might have 7 or 3 or whatever is found.  And of course
> there can be different additives in the differing products as well.
>
> The ten chain process allows the oil to sustain greater amounts of heat.
> Same idea as what it takes to light a phone book or a pile of leaves.  It
> also makes it more of a lubricant. . more of a slip factor between metal
> surfaces.
>
> Harley Davidson was the biggest hypocrite saying that their bikes must have
> the Harley 360 non synthetic product or damage would occur to their
engines.
>
>
> Dealers were also adamant about this.  (And of course the dealers were
> carrying 360 on their shelves).
>
> The motor company realized that Harley owners were using Red Line and other
> brands of synthetic in their bikes, and that the bikes were running fine,
no
> issues.  Owners were racking up miles on their bikes with no issues.
 (Which
> to me says more about frequency of oil changes than whether the oil is
> synthetic or not).
>
> I believe that Porsche made it mandatory that the owner uses a synthetic,
as
> well as Ferrari and other high end automobile manufacturers?
>
> Short story. .  Harley finally came out with their own brand of synthetic.
> Their response, "We realize that Harley owners are running different brands
> of synthetic oils in their bikes, so we came out with our own
> in order to control the type of synthetic oil that our owners should use."
>
> What a crock of )(*7u980. . . Harley's determination was a result of the
> free market place and bike owners doing what they thought was best for
their
> high dollar investments.
>
> Eventually, much of this talk about spinning bearings and causing harm to
> different metals and how the parts function seems to have dissipated.
>
> I am playing it safe as so many listers have talked about not using
> synthetic in a rib case.  Again, maintenance rules over all.  However I
> wonder what, if any real harm would come running synthetic in the box.  and
> if their just might be some value to the idea of doing so?
>
> My ramble on the subject!
>
>
> Kirk
> 59
> _______________________________________________
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 21 15:35:55 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:35:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
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Kirk H. wrote and I...
<quote>
However I wonder what, if any real harm would come running
synthetic in the box. and if their just might be some value to
the idea of doing so?
</quote>


The answer IS a qualified NONE, Kirk.  A Redline
Dist. [also the 123 Dizzy] is a Healey List Member
and has discoursed the subject to death due to Big
Healey listers seemingly having the memory[s] of
sponges<G>[but NOT all<VBG>] !!  A search of the
Archives [link at bottom of EVERY List post] for
Redline will give anybody enough reading for quite
awhile.  LOL

The fact is that Redline offers TWO [2] tranny
weight oils.  One IS fine the other NOT [and NO
I am not gonna do your *research* for you<G>].

Skip Kelsey [R.I.P.] of Shadetree Motors in CA
was an AVID MGer [including Pre-war models] &
he not only sold the stuff but used it in ALL of his
and his Customers' cars !!!

Then David L. wrote and I ....
<quote>
The issue with synthetic in a gearbox is that it tends to be
too slippery for proper operation of the synchros, leading to
lots of gear-crunching shifts.
</quote>

Which the CORRECT Redline does NOT do.  In fact,
comments from various MGers & Big Healey folks
state exactly the opposite.  Actually they ALL have
stated that they had a "marked improvement" and
had ZERO "gear-crunching" since they switched.

Kelsey knew more about LBC trannys/motors/cars
than anybody I have EVER run across including the
self-esteemed Mr. Twist.  Plainly the Sprite/Midget
gear boxes are the same so I did/do believe Skip.

And then David L. also penned and I....
<quote>
I lean towards 20W50 myself.
</quote>

Ditto, David.  Of course it might be that I actually am
a Founding Member of the "We Tight Club" !!!!  <VBG>

HTHs !!

Ed

PS:  Yes, I DO know WHICH Redline, just want to see
.........whom will find the answer first <G> !!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 21 16:29:00 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:29:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Auto cemetery video
In-Reply-To: <205cef431003211147k4043f6c3h2cf01ba5f7e65875@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef431003211147k4043f6c3h2cf01ba5f7e65875@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA6ABBC.4090903@justbrits.com>

<< I saw photos posted before but here is a clear video
pre-auction >>

HOLY CRAP Batwoman, that 'grave yard' is worth
a HUGE fortune !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

< SIGH >

Where is my PowerBall winnings when I NEED them<G>?!?!?

Tnx <bigger sigh> !!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 21 16:31:06 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:31:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <972271.8929.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <972271.8929.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BA6AC3A.1040600@justbrits.com>

<< The guy who built my transmissions for me, Eric Jones, was
considered the best by a lot of people at building durable,
robust rally LBCs. >>

VERY true, Ron !!!  The world, not just LBCdom lost
a GREAT guy there !!!

Ed

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Mar 21 16:33:39 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:33:39 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
Message-ID: <166bb.46dd88e2.38d806d3@aol.com>

That's not the case for gearboxes in general, though it might be for a  
Spridget box but I doubt it.
 
There are lots of gearboxes where you must use a synthetic oil.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 21/03/2010 21:28:47 GMT Standard Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

The  issue with synthetic in a gearbox is that it tends to be too
slippery for  proper operation of the synchros, leading to lots of
gear-crunching shifts.  I lean towards 20W50 myself.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar 21 18:13:02 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:13:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>

75W-90NS for the ribcase and MT-90 for the Datsun 5 speed.
Mike MacLean

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Shop at " Just Brits "
<shop at justbrits.com>wrote:

> Kirk H. wrote and I...
> <quote>
>
> However I wonder what, if any real harm would come running
> synthetic in the box. and if their just might be some value to
> the idea of doing so?
> </quote>
>
>
> The answer IS a qualified NONE, Kirk.  A Redline
> Dist. [also the 123 Dizzy] is a Healey List Member
> and has discoursed the subject to death due to Big
> Healey listers seemingly having the memory[s] of
> sponges<G>[but NOT all<VBG>] !!  A search of the
> Archives [link at bottom of EVERY List post] for
> Redline will give anybody enough reading for quite
> awhile.  LOL
>
> The fact is that Redline offers TWO [2] tranny
> weight oils.  One IS fine the other NOT [and NO
> I am not gonna do your *research* for you<G>].
>
> Skip Kelsey [R.I.P.] of Shadetree Motors in CA
> was an AVID MGer [including Pre-war models] &
> he not only sold the stuff but used it in ALL of his
> and his Customers' cars !!!
>
> Then David L. wrote and I ....
> <quote>
>
> The issue with synthetic in a gearbox is that it tends to be
> too slippery for proper operation of the synchros, leading to
> lots of gear-crunching shifts.
> </quote>
>
> Which the CORRECT Redline does NOT do.  In fact,
> comments from various MGers & Big Healey folks
> state exactly the opposite.  Actually they ALL have
> stated that they had a "marked improvement" and
> had ZERO "gear-crunching" since they switched.
>
> Kelsey knew more about LBC trannys/motors/cars
> than anybody I have EVER run across including the
> self-esteemed Mr. Twist.  Plainly the Sprite/Midget
> gear boxes are the same so I did/do believe Skip.
>
> And then David L. also penned and I....
> <quote>
>
> I lean towards 20W50 myself.
> </quote>
>
> Ditto, David.  Of course it might be that I actually am
> a Founding Member of the "We Tight Club" !!!!  <VBG>
>
> HTHs !!
>
> Ed
>
> PS:  Yes, I DO know WHICH Redline, just want to see
> .........whom will find the answer first <G> !!!
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 21 19:13:36 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:13:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
Message-ID: <309301.6685.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

How about Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-140  or Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear
Lube LS 75W-90??
Skip J.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 19:15:42 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:15:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <309301.6685.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <309301.6685.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9911003211915h38811350h40479366a77016c@mail.gmail.com>

Put that in your diff?

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com> wrote:
> How about Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-140  or Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear
> Lube LS 75W-90??
> Skip J.

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Mar 21 19:29:29 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:29:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <309301.6685.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <309301.6685.qm@web46409.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BA6D609.3040308@justbrits.com>

<< How about Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-140 or
Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-90?? >>

Honestly Skip, I have ZERO clue.

And above all, I wouldn't take a chance with a
Customer's car nor my own unless I DID have some
concrete info.  The Redline Line products I HAVE
read & heard [Skip Kelsey] enough to trust/try it.

Me

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Mar 21 20:14:14 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:14:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye DIY Repro tunnel rubber
References: <BD845D974399431EBC46328C5F530131@blackbox2>
	<205cef431003211227t1796696as6df3a89698aa7002@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <792EDE4FBB714EC58479199F4EFCC4ED@blackbox2>

That is exactly what I used.  I think I went through two or three bottles of it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Linda Grunthaner
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye DIY Repro tunnel rubber

Dean,
I could only find this Gel cyanoacrylate (Locktite brand). Is this what you used it's good to know for other applications in the 
school shop on student projects using rubber products.

http://www.viewpoints.com/Loctite-Super-Glue-Gel-Control-reviews#product_sort_filter
Thanks and looks sweet,
Lin 

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Mar 21 20:19:28 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:19:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com><4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>

What did the original Datsun 210 owner's manual  indicate for the tranny?
I searched the web but I can't find any leads.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar 21 21:19:36 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:19:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>

Dean,
     I just happen to have a 1980 Datsun 210 service manual.  The type of
gear oil required in the manual is API GL-4.  The viscosity according to the
viscosity chart for temp range of 100 degrees F down to -20 and beyond is
80W-90.  If you are going to operate in temps above 100 degrees F straight
140 wt.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> What did the original Datsun 210 owner's manual  indicate for the tranny?
> I searched the web but I can't find any leads.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 21:23:14 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:23:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003212123x62fa4a30gc8ac6a80a77032bc@mail.gmail.com>

Al Gore sez for temperatures above 150F next year you should use roofing
tar.....    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:19 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <
rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Dean,
>     I just happen to have a 1980 Datsun 210 service manual.  The type of
> gear oil required in the manual is API GL-4.  The viscosity according to
> the
> viscosity chart for temp range of 100 degrees F down to -20 and beyond is
> 80W-90.  If you are going to operate in temps above 100 degrees F straight
> 140 wt.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > What did the original Datsun 210 owner's manual  indicate for the tranny?
> > I searched the web but I can't find any leads.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar 21 21:27:01 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:27:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003212123x62fa4a30gc8ac6a80a77032bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e1003212123x62fa4a30gc8ac6a80a77032bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003212127j5e8ecf47ydcd50de34199cfe2@mail.gmail.com>

How's that stuff on the synchros Jim?
;^)

Mike MacLean

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Al Gore sez for temperatures above 150F next year you should use roofing
> tar.....    ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:19 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <
> rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>> Dean,
>>     I just happen to have a 1980 Datsun 210 service manual.  The type of
>> gear oil required in the manual is API GL-4.  The viscosity according to
>> the
>> viscosity chart for temp range of 100 degrees F down to -20 and beyond is
>> 80W-90.  If you are going to operate in temps above 100 degrees F straight
>> 140 wt.
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > What did the original Datsun 210 owner's manual  indicate for the
>> tranny?
>> > I searched the web but I can't find any leads.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Mar 21 22:05:50 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:05:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>

Interesting.  I was worried that I initialy put in 85w (I recently switched Mobil synthetic 75w)

I have two issues with my 5-speed.

The first issue is the tendency of the 1st to 2nd shift crunch.  This is worse when the tranny is cold and goes away as it warms up.
I can avoid it when the tranny is cold by gently performing the shift, which I do religously now.

Putting in the 75w made the situation a little better.  I would also say that over time this tendency to crunch appears to be on the
decline.  Maybe as a result of the synchos breaking in?   All other gears shift wonderfully.

The second item is that the tranny is a little noisy when idling and in neutral.   It's a clattering noise. kinda like the tank 
tread noise
you hear in old WWII movies.  It's not very loud but it's louder than I expect.

If  I depress the clutch the noise goes away.

I should mention that this tranny was rebuilt by Rivergate when I bought the kit a little over a year ago.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box

Dean,
     I just happen to have a 1980 Datsun 210 service manual.  The type of gear oil required in the manual is API GL-4.  The 
viscosity according to the viscosity chart for temp range of 100 degrees F down to -20 and beyond is 80W-90.  If you are going to 
operate in temps above 100 degrees F straight 140 wt.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Mar 21 22:38:15 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:38:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>

Rivergate probably used the same after market synchros that Paul did on my
rebuilt transmission.  When I told him it would crunch going into 3rd gear,
he said the synchros had the wrong angle machined into them.  He sent me a
set of the best used Datsun synchros he could pick out.  He offered to
rebuild it with the used synchros, but I did not want to go through the
hassle of shipping it from Southern California back up to him.  I decided to
have a trans shop or some knowledgeable Spridget list member help me swap
them out.  Interesting though, I had Castrol synthetic GL-5 85w-90 oil in it
when it was crunching in 3rd (hot or cold).  I recently bought regular
Sta-Lube Hypoid GL-4 85W-90 gear oil and drained out all the old oil and
replaced it.  Now it crunches in 2nd sometimes!?!  WTF?  Now I am wondering
what Redline MT-90 will do to the shifting?  In any case I have to baby it
when shifting and cross my fingers when I downshift in ANY gear.  There is
some improvement when it warms up as you are experiencing Dean, but I don't
think that is good enough.  I am quite sure it never crunched in any gear
when it was in a Datsun 210 and only had regular GL-4 gear oil in it.  I
believe the synchros are yours and my problem.
Mike MacLean

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Interesting.  I was worried that I initialy put in 85w (I recently switched
> Mobil synthetic 75w)
>
> I have two issues with my 5-speed.
>
> The first issue is the tendency of the 1st to 2nd shift crunch.  This is
> worse when the tranny is cold and goes away as it warms up.
> I can avoid it when the tranny is cold by gently performing the shift,
> which I do religously now.
>
> Putting in the 75w made the situation a little better.  I would also say
> that over time this tendency to crunch appears to be on the
> decline.  Maybe as a result of the synchos breaking in?   All other gears
> shift wonderfully.
>
> The second item is that the tranny is a little noisy when idling and in
> neutral.   It's a clattering noise. kinda like the tank tread noise
> you hear in old WWII movies.  It's not very loud but it's louder than I
> expect.
>
> If  I depress the clutch the noise goes away.
>
> I should mention that this tranny was rebuilt by Rivergate when I bought
> the kit a little over a year ago.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
>
>
> Dean,
>    I just happen to have a 1980 Datsun 210 service manual.  The type of
> gear oil required in the manual is API GL-4.  The viscosity according to the
> viscosity chart for temp range of 100 degrees F down to -20 and beyond is
> 80W-90.  If you are going to operate in temps above 100 degrees F straight
> 140 wt.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 05:12:46 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:12:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye DIY Repro tunnel rubber
In-Reply-To: <792EDE4FBB714EC58479199F4EFCC4ED@blackbox2>
References: <BD845D974399431EBC46328C5F530131@blackbox2>
	<205cef431003211227t1796696as6df3a89698aa7002@mail.gmail.com>
	<792EDE4FBB714EC58479199F4EFCC4ED@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <205cef431003220512qc3f7b8ate69745ce7c927fb3@mail.gmail.com>

Good to know as we have it in stock at our school.
Lin

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> That is exactly what I used.  I think I went through two or three bottles
> of it.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Grunthaner
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye DIY Repro tunnel rubber
>
>
> Dean,
> I could only find this Gel cyanoacrylate (Locktite brand). Is this what you
> used it's good to know for other applications in the school shop on student
> projects using rubber products.
>
>
> http://www.viewpoints.com/Loctite-Super-Glue-Gel-Control-reviews#product_sort_filter
> Thanks and looks sweet,
> Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 05:25:15 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:25:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] this eBay Bugeye is the wrong vin ebay 300409642987
Message-ID: <205cef431003220525r51872bdetcb2a80226068eaa4@mail.gmail.com>

This eBay Bugeye 300409642987 is listed as a 58 but the vin AN5L10626 is not
a 58.  I don't have my books handy but isn't a vin of AN5L10626 a 60 or 61?
Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 05:48:51 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:48:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] this eBay Bugeye is the wrong vin ebay 300409642987
In-Reply-To: <205cef431003220525r51872bdetcb2a80226068eaa4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef431003220525r51872bdetcb2a80226068eaa4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef431003220548h28373aefn87c024d4e19029a9@mail.gmail.com>

The door handles are a dead givaway.
Lin

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> This eBay Bugeye 300409642987 is listed as a 58 but the vin AN5L10626 is
> not a 58.  I don't have my books handy but isn't a vin of AN5L10626 a 60 or
> 61?
> Lin

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 22 06:12:43 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:12:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] this eBay Bugeye is the wrong year
Message-ID: <364747.74649.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

1958 production ended  at 8926. 
1959 production ended at 30214. 
1960
production ended about 48898. 
Skip J.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 06:13:33 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:13:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Youtube 100s 24 hr drive,
	you can see Geofrey Healey circa 1954
Message-ID: <205cef431003220613x4db2f7e2lb708d33959f41c7e@mail.gmail.com>

I borrowed this form the big healey site. Somewhere 1/2 way through you can
see Geofrey Healey ; ) I wonder if he was starting the work on the Sprite at
that time in 1954.
Lin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2KuaKt2uDg&feature=player_embedded

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 06:14:11 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:14:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] this eBay Bugeye is the wrong year
In-Reply-To: <364747.74649.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <364747.74649.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <205cef431003220614l1a3c72c1w3804a5f91f021915@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Skip that's what I was looking for.
Lin

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com>wrote:

> 1958 production ended  at 8926.
> 1959 production ended at 30214.
> 1960
> production ended about 48898.
> Skip J.
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 06:16:50 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:16:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] this eBay Bugeye is the wrong year
In-Reply-To: <364747.74649.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Also, the 58 would have had the 9 stud windscreen

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com>wrote:

> 1958 production ended  at 8926.
> 1959 production ended at 30214.
> 1960
> production ended about 48898.
> Skip J.
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From rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com  Mon Mar 22 08:59:22 2010
From: rrivenbark at cfl.rr.com (=?utf-8?B?cnJpdmVuYmFya0BjZmwucnIuY29t?=)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:59:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?Sebring_sprite_at_sebring?=
Message-ID: <EA.DC.05956.AD397AB4@cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com>

I was at the 12hrs this past weekend.  In the special display area this year they had a couple of gems: a sebring sprite coupe, a sebring sprite one-off works speedster, and the one-and-only jag-you-ahr xjr-13. The JAG is even better looking in person than on tv. I've got pics of all but the speedster.

Tad

Sent from my HTC Hero.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar 22 10:35:54 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:35:54 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
Message-ID: <30f99.45b52a4e.38d9047a@aol.com>

I've used this in the diff and a 5 speed but it's a gear oil so not  
suitable for the Spridget box.
 
In a message dated 22/03/2010 02:13:42 GMT Standard Time,  
jackson.skip at yahoo.com writes:

Lube LS  75W-90??

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Mar 22 10:41:43 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:41:43 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] 2nd gear crunch on a cold box
Message-ID: <3174c.7f0cd877.38d905d7@aol.com>

The Ford type 9 with the correct (or better alternative) fully synthetic  
gear oil does the same thing - crunch up to second or is it crunch down to  
2nd,or both.
 
I find that blipping the throttle (I modified a 1500 throttle pedal by  
making it a lot shorter) removes the crunch.
 
The (very) expert gearbox builder, Brian Hill, did say if the box crunched  
when cold to add a drop of ATF to the gear oil but blipping resolved the 
problem  so I've never tried this.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza
 
In a message dated 22/03/2010 05:11:51 GMT Standard Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

The  first issue is the tendency of the 1st to 2nd shift crunch.  This is  
worse when the tranny is cold and goes away as it warms up.
I can avoid it  when the tranny is cold by gently performing the shift, 
which I do religously  now.

Putting in the 75w made the situation a little better.  I  would also say 
that over time this tendency to crunch appears to be on  the
decline.  Maybe as a result of the synchos breaking  in?   All other gears 
shift wonderfully.

From conen at bellsouth.net  Mon Mar 22 14:18:28 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:18:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
Message-ID: <888686.82939.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per Dean Hedin...
>>The first issue is the tendency of the 1st to 2nd shift crunch.  This is >>worse when the tranny is cold and goes away as it warms up.

  This will not help, but...
  On at least two Datsun 510s (Mom's new '72 wagon, and my used '71 sedan) the stock 4-speed trannies did this.  Also my current '91 Toyota truck.  Mom's was so bad you could not shift into 2nd gear in the winter until the tranny warmed up.
  What we ended up doing was putting the transmission in neutral, taking the foot off the clutch pedal and letting the engine idle for a minute or two to get the fluid in the transmission warmed up enough to work.
  The Datsun dealer ended up doing 'something' to the '72 wagon that helped the problem a lot, but wouldn't tell us what.
  It was only a serious problem in cold weather.
 Ed in NC

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 14:43:55 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:43:55 -0800
Subject: [Spridgets] this eBay Bugeye is the wrong year
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003220616j523dd2b5r4503f47247dec2c8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <364747.74649.qm@web46416.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<e98d88091003220616j523dd2b5r4503f47247dec2c8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4333f8141003221443n53144221w5bba7fc68199c0ea@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Also, the 58 would have had the 9 stud windscreen
>
> Not if it was after 5477 (sometime in October...)
Hal

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Mar 22 14:44:20 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:44:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <888686.82939.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <888686.82939.qm@web180207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BA7E4B4.2090203@justbrits.com>

<< It was only a serious problem in cold weather. >>

And you don't even get *cold* down there, Ed !!!

<VBG> !!!!

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 14:52:20 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:52:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 2nd gear crunch on a cold box
In-Reply-To: <3174c.7f0cd877.38d905d7@aol.com>
References: <3174c.7f0cd877.38d905d7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9911003221452m5188d990i96e756e0f444ffa@mail.gmail.com>

Don't BW T5s use ATF?

I've run ATF in 35mm film projectors with better results than the 10wt
they were spec'd to run.

I know of a Jeep that had manual tranny problems with GL5 spec fluid
that cleared up right away with GL3 was used instead.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 22 15:00:00 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:00:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: NASCAR News
Message-ID: <F6B76C7D075D4009B50C9C4B1B6F9D23@HomePC>

FW: Harlem Pit Crew

Jeff Gordon announced today that he was firing his entire pit crew. This
announcement followed Gordon's decision to take advantage of President Obama's
scheme to employ Harlem youngsters.  The decision to hire them was brought
about by a recent documentary on how unemployed youths from Harlem were able
to remove a set of wheels in less than 6 seconds without proper equipment;
whereas Gordon's existing crew could only do it in 8 seconds with millions of
dollars worth of high tech equipment.

It was thought to be an excellent and bold move by Gordon's management team,
as most races are won or lost in the pits. However, Gordon got more than he
bargained for!

At the crew's first practice session, not only was the inexperienced crew able
to  change all 4 wheels in under 6 seconds, but within 12 seconds they had
changed the paint scheme, altered the VIN number, and sold the car to Dale
Earnhart Jr. for 10 cases of Bud, a bag of weed, and some photos of Jeff's
wife in the shower.

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 15:03:10 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:03:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] A Big Thanks
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003221503o63919ddby38c303f9517b3c52@mail.gmail.com>

Wanted to say thank you to all of your who helped me with my throwout
bearing issue.

I trimmed the rod on the slave to spec (thanks to Frank for the
measurements) and got the engine back in and sorted out last night (after
also sorting the plug wires back in correctly. .  you should have heard the
boom coming from Northern California when I started it up and had the plug
wires in bassakwards)!  Sounded like a shot gun going off.

It is running like a champ. .  smooth and fast for a 1275 with bolt on HP,
OER (Weber). headers, Monza exhaust, high energy electronic ignition,
electric fan. . . .  .

There are no words to express how much fun this car is to drive (for me
anyway).

Was it Charleton Heston who said, "You will have to pry this Sprite from my
cold dead fingers?"

I look at the big Healeys and get the impression that they handle more like
an American 4 door sedan as compared to my 59 with racing springs, sway bar,
urethane bushings and disk brakes, etc etc etc!

How do I know. .  I have never driven one or even rode in one!

Thanks again to everyone. . .

Kirk

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 15:07:10 2010
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:07:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: NASCAR News
In-Reply-To: <F6B76C7D075D4009B50C9C4B1B6F9D23@HomePC>
References: <F6B76C7D075D4009B50C9C4B1B6F9D23@HomePC>
Message-ID: <531383561003221507r1c4cd546pe9ad55726b3db5a6@mail.gmail.com>

Really?

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> FW: Harlem Pit Crew

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 22 15:21:12 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:21:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: NASCAR News
In-Reply-To: <531383561003221507r1c4cd546pe9ad55726b3db5a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F6B76C7D075D4009B50C9C4B1B6F9D23@HomePC>
	<531383561003221507r1c4cd546pe9ad55726b3db5a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <41684679A7854DAFBCB4659EF327DB6B@HomePC>

All except the photos.  I kept those.



--------------------------------------------------
From: "brian james" <daredelvis at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:07 PM
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC: NASCAR News

Really?

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> 
wrote:
> FW: Harlem Pit Crew

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Mar 22 15:24:18 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:24:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: NASCAR News
In-Reply-To: <531383561003221507r1c4cd546pe9ad55726b3db5a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F6B76C7D075D4009B50C9C4B1B6F9D23@HomePC>
	<531383561003221507r1c4cd546pe9ad55726b3db5a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA7EE12.6060101@justbrits.com>

<< Really? >>

Yep, on his web site last evening, Brian !!!!  How so
you think Larry found out <G> ????

BTW, is Jessie related ???

Ed

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 15:27:06 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:27:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: NASCAR News
In-Reply-To: <41684679A7854DAFBCB4659EF327DB6B@HomePC>
References: <F6B76C7D075D4009B50C9C4B1B6F9D23@HomePC>
	<531383561003221507r1c4cd546pe9ad55726b3db5a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<41684679A7854DAFBCB4659EF327DB6B@HomePC>
Message-ID: <402188521003221527h6f2f7f3auf472977a0f473b9@mail.gmail.com>

You know that it is bogus. After all, them kids have NO experience in
putting wheels ONTO a car.
David L

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Mar 22 15:29:22 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:29:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: NASCAR News
In-Reply-To: <F6B76C7D075D4009B50C9C4B1B6F9D23@HomePC>
References: <F6B76C7D075D4009B50C9C4B1B6F9D23@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4BA7EF42.6040700@justbrits.com>

LAD, FYI :

In case you didn't know, it was actually DuPont that
*discovered* the new pit crew.  On the DuPont site
it says that one of the Sr. Exec's that made the call
to go with the *new crew* has been fired as he
FAILED to anticipate the Crew vs paint job problem !!

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 22 15:30:48 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:30:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>,
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>,
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>,
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>,
	<EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>,
	<d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W1138AA35ECF48D9BAD6732CA270@phx.gbl>

I have run across this problem with Datsun trannys in both Spridgets and
Datsuns (crunching into various gears) and the only solution that I ever found
that worked was to put common 30 wgt (or better yet non-detergent 30 wgt) in
instead of the honey syrup.
The Datsun engineers probably spent years determining that 90 wgt was better I
have never found this to be the case.
Your results may vary but mine have always been the same.
BillM

> Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:38:15 -0700
> From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com
> To: dlh2001 at comcast.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
>
> Rivergate probably used the same after market synchros that Paul did on my
> rebuilt transmission.  When I told him it would crunch going into 3rd gear,
> he said the synchros had the wrong angle machined into them.  He sent me a
> set of the best used Datsun synchros he could pick out.  He offered to
> rebuild it with the used synchros, but I did not want to go through the
> hassle of shipping it from Southern California back up to him.  I decided
to
> have a trans shop or some knowledgeable Spridget list member help me swap
> them out.  Interesting though, I had Castrol synthetic GL-5 85w-90 oil in
it
> when it was crunching in 3rd (hot or cold).  I recently bought regular
> Sta-Lube Hypoid GL-4 85W-90 gear oil and drained out all the old oil and
> replaced it.  Now it crunches in 2nd sometimes!?!  WTF?  Now I am wondering
> what Redline MT-90 will do to the shifting?  In any case I have to baby it
> when shifting and cross my fingers when I downshift in ANY gear.  There is
> some improvement when it warms up as you are experiencing Dean, but I don't
> think that is good enough.  I am quite sure it never crunched in any gear
> when it was in a Datsun 210 and only had regular GL-4 gear oil in it.  I
> believe the synchros are yours and my problem.
> Mike MacLean
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Interesting.  I was worried that I initialy put in 85w (I recently
switched
> > Mobil synthetic 75w)
> >
> > I have two issues with my 5-speed.
> >
> > The first issue is the tendency of the 1st to 2nd shift crunch.  This is
> > worse when the tranny is cold and goes away as it warms up.
> > I can avoid it when the tranny is cold by gently performing the shift,
> > which I do religously now.
> >
> > Putting in the 75w made the situation a little better.  I would also say
> > that over time this tendency to crunch appears to be on the
> > decline.  Maybe as a result of the synchos breaking in?   All other gears
> > shift wonderfully.
> >
> > The second item is that the tranny is a little noisy when idling and in
> > neutral.   It's a clattering noise. kinda like the tank tread noise
> > you hear in old WWII movies.  It's not very loud but it's louder than I
> > expect.
> >
> > If  I depress the clutch the noise goes away.
> >
> > I should mention that this tranny was rebuilt by Rivergate when I bought
> > the kit a little over a year ago.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
> >
> >
> > Dean,
> >    I just happen to have a 1980 Datsun 210 service manual.  The type of
> > gear oil required in the manual is API GL-4.  The viscosity according to
the
> > viscosity chart for temp range of 100 degrees F down to -20 and beyond is
> > 80W-90.  If you are going to operate in temps above 100 degrees F
straight
> > 140 wt.
> > Mike MacLean
> > 60 Sprite
> > 56 BN2
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Mar 22 17:12:34 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:12:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2>

Maybe..  But I've read elsewhere that it is not uncommon for a freshly rebuilt manual transmission to
be a little crunchy until the synchros have had a chance to break in.

I don't have very many miles on the transmission at this point.  Probably less than 200.
I am not too worried about the 1st 2nd crunch , because:
1) I can be gentle with the shift and it does not happen.
2) I have seen some improvement with use.
3) I don't have this issue in other gears.

The noise in neutral I am more concerned about.  How noisy is yours when idling in neutral?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box


Rivergate probably used the same after market synchros that Paul did on my rebuilt transmission.  When I told him it would crunch 
going into 3rd gear, he said the synchros had the wrong angle machined into them.  He sent me a set of the best used Datsun synchros 
he could pick out.  He offered to rebuild it with the used synchros, but I did not want to go through the hassle of shipping it from 
Southern California back up to him.  I decided to have a trans shop or some knowledgeable Spridget list member help me swap them 
out.  Interesting though, I had Castrol synthetic GL-5 85w-90 oil in it when it was crunching in 3rd (hot or cold).  I recently 
bought regular Sta-Lube Hypoid GL-4 85W-90 gear oil and drained out all the old oil and replaced it.  Now it crunches in 2nd 
sometimes!?!  WTF?  Now I am wondering what Redline MT-90 will do to the shifting?  In any case I have to baby it when shifting and 
cross my fingers when I downshift in ANY gear.  There is some improvement when it warms up as you are experiencing Dean, but I don't 
think that is good enough.  I am quite sure it never crunched in any gear when it was in a Datsun 210 and only had regular GL-4 gear 
oil in it.  I believe the synchros are yours and my problem.
Mike MacLean

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Mar 22 17:18:02 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:18:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA808BA.8050101@justbrits.com>

Mike & Dean:

<< Now I am wondering what Redline MT-90 will do to the
shifting? >>

I am NOT sure WHICH of the Redline oils would
be correct for the Datsun tranny SO if were you,
I would ASK Eric at Redline [Mike, he IS on the
Healeys List].

Me

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Mar 22 17:22:19 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:22:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003202205g7d86ee48m93d004c7ad728e73@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003201704m6665b8c3q635037132f5dcbc8@mail.gmail.com>
	<23011.37945.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<37dc82d41003202205g7d86ee48m93d004c7ad728e73@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA809BB.5040800@justbrits.com>

Kirk, as I JUST told Mike & Dean.....

<< I have enough synthetic Red Line 20 - 50 sitting on the shelf
that would save me a trip to the auto parts store. . but do I
understand that synthetic should not be used in the gear box? >>

ASK Redline.

They have MOTOR oil and TRANNY oil = DIFFERENT.

Ed

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 22 17:45:49 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:45:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Refilling a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <4BA809BB.5040800@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <732071.14383.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I guess I never heard Paul A, Eric Jones, or Tim at Four-in-Tune recommend anything but $2 per quart non-detergent motor oil for a ribcase BMC gearbox. Between the 3 of them, I would bet hundreds of gearboxes have been torn down and rebuilt. Why in the world is this even up for discussion? 

--- On Mon, 3/22/10, Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:

> ASK Redline.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Mar 22 18:01:56 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:01:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] A Big Thanks
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003221503o63919ddby38c303f9517b3c52@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003221503o63919ddby38c303f9517b3c52@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BA81304.5040007@comcast.net>

Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
> I look at the big Healeys and get the impression that they handle more like
> an American 4 door sedan as compared to my 59 with racing springs, sway bar,
> urethane bushings and disk brakes, etc etc etc!
>
> How do I know. .  I have never driven one or even rode in one!
>
>   
I think the American 4 door sedans handle much MUCH better than a big 
Healey.
The Healey handles more like a John Deere, Case, or Massey Furgeson tractor.
I know, I had one and I asked 2 owners what the hell was wrong with my 
Healey.
Both said it was nice and tight and that's the way they are.
No fun but it did look damn good for a tractor.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From davriker at nwi.net  Mon Mar 22 19:55:00 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:55:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com><4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com><d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com><3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2><d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com><EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2><d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN>

My rebuilt Datsun tranny is also noisy in neutral, clutch out.  It was noisy 
before the rebuild, we replaced all the bearings, and it was noisy after the 
rebuild.

It also crunches a little going into second when cold.  I used NOS Datsun 
syncros for the rebuild.  It crunched exactly the same before the rebuild. 
We test fitted all the syncros, and put the one with the most bite on second 
gear, and the one with the least bite on 5th.

The before and after were so unremarkably similar that I wouldn't have 
believed it was rebuilt if I hadn't participated in the work.  Thing is we 
did find things that needed attention, but fixing them didn't solve any of 
the symptoms that led to the rebuild in the first place!

I will still take a little crunch and a fifth speed over the ribcase any day 
of the week and twice on Sunday....

Dave R.
Wenatchee, WA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
To: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box


> Maybe..  But I've read elsewhere that it is not uncommon for a freshly 
> rebuilt manual transmission to
> be a little crunchy until the synchros have had a chance to break in.
>
> I don't have very many miles on the transmission at this point.  Probably 
> less than 200.
> I am not too worried about the 1st 2nd crunch , because:
> 1) I can be gentle with the shift and it does not happen.
> 2) I have seen some improvement with use.
> 3) I don't have this issue in other gears.
>
> The noise in neutral I am more concerned about.  How noisy is yours when 
> idling in neutral?
>
.

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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Mar 22 21:00:47 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:00:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com><4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com><d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com><3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2><d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com><EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2><d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2>
	<31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN>
Message-ID: <7A746411E6C349E68B33508C39DA5707@blackbox2>

I am glad you chimed in David.
Now I must ask, what kind of oil are you running in your gearbox?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box


> My rebuilt Datsun tranny is also noisy in neutral, clutch out.  It was noisy 
> before the rebuild, we replaced all the bearings, and it was noisy after the 
> rebuild.
> 
> It also crunches a little going into second when cold.  I used NOS Datsun 
> syncros for the rebuild.  It crunched exactly the same before the rebuild. 
> We test fitted all the syncros, and put the one with the most bite on second 
> gear, and the one with the least bite on 5th.
> 
> The before and after were so unremarkably similar that I wouldn't have 
> believed it was rebuilt if I hadn't participated in the work.  Thing is we 
> did find things that needed attention, but fixing them didn't solve any of 
> the symptoms that led to the rebuild in the first place!
> 
> I will still take a little crunch and a fifth speed over the ribcase any day 
> of the week and twice on Sunday....

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Mar 23 00:36:31 2010
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:36:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN>
Message-ID: <20100323083624.87DB2187662@autox.team.net>

	My question would be which kit did you use and which clutch, TO
bearing, and pilot bushing?
	Did you machine the syncros to the proper size? Some will be ok as
is some won't. Many of the so called bad ones can be sized to fit. You would
have been better off if you switched the 5th and 2nd ones as "the more bite
as you call it" is oversized.
		Crash


My rebuilt Datsun tranny is also noisy in neutral, clutch out.  It was noisy

before the rebuild, we replaced all the bearings, and it was noisy after the

rebuild.
It also crunches a little going into second when cold.  I used NOS Datsun 
syncros for the rebuild.  It crunched exactly the same before the rebuild. 
We test fitted all the syncros, and put the one with the most bite on second

gear, and the one with the least bite on 5th.


I will still take a little crunch and a fifth speed over the ribcase any day

of the week and twice on Sunday....

Dave R.
Wenatchee, WA

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar 23 09:22:54 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:22:54 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] the man behind the curtain
Message-ID: <BAY112-W173BC2E7A60A5B82A41630B8260@phx.gbl>

We probably already knew about this ... but, I had forgotten.



http://www.team.net/forums/index.php



Spridgets and Healeys are empty, but check out the Triumphs!

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Mar 23 09:29:52 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:29:52 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] the man behind the curtain
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W173BC2E7A60A5B82A41630B8260@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W173BC2E7A60A5B82A41630B8260@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W1503D8E2E413ACB61381E6B8260@phx.gbl>

I guess I should have said, check out the "Who the *%$#* is that?" thread in
the Triumphs ...
( or: http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27  )

RD
 > We probably already knew about this ... but, I had forgotten.
>
> http://www.team.net/forums/index.php
>
> Spridgets and Healeys are empty, but check out the Triumphs!
>
> Robert Duquette
> Ottawa ON Canada

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Mar 23 14:11:05 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:11:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
Message-ID: <4BA92E69.60908@justbrits.com>

A bit on the strong money side but in Frank's back
yard !!!!

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/1628551719.html

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 23 14:26:55 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:26:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
In-Reply-To: <4BA92E69.60908@justbrits.com>
References: <4BA92E69.60908@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <103456.52758.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've never seen a green interior... different.  A little steep on the price.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: 4 - Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:11:05 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ

A bit on the strong money side but in Frank's back
yard !!!!

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/1628551719.html
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Mar 23 14:33:12 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:33:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] If you have NOT........
Message-ID: <4BA93398.7070107@justbrits.com>

  seen or read this, it's just UN-REAL <VBG>!!!!!



  How A $500 Craigslist Car Beat $400K Rally Racers
  <http://jalopnik.com/5497042/how-a-500-craigslist-car-beat-400k-rally-racers>


or

*http://tinyurl.com/yf5dmyz
*
or

http://jalopnik.com/5497042/how-a-500-craigslist-car-beat-400k-rally-racers

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 14:43:11 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:43:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
In-Reply-To: <103456.52758.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4BA92E69.60908@justbrits.com>
	<103456.52758.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003231443s30ebe006u19dc7dea2598914e@mail.gmail.com>

It's a 3 wiper car, so it most likely has had a VIN plate swap in it's past.

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've never seen a green interior... different.  A little steep on the
> price.
>
>  Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
> To: 4 - Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:11:05 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
>
> A bit on the strong money side but in Frank's back
> yard !!!!
>
> http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/1628551719.html
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Mar 23 15:52:12 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:52:12 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
Message-ID: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>

It's a mixture of parts - look at the window winders and then look at the  
brake master cylinder.  As far as being an ex SCCA racer I wonder if used  
those air filters???  Minilite wheels look more like replica minilites to  me.
 
In a message dated 23/03/2010 21:53:28 GMT Standard Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

It's a 3  wiper car, so it most likely has had a VIN plate swap in it's 
past.

On  Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>  wrote:

> I've never seen a green interior... different.  A  little steep on the
> price.
>
>  Edward Perez
>  Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>
>
>
>
>  ________________________________
> From: "Shop at " Just Brits ""  <shop at justbrits.com>
> To: 4 - Spridgets  <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:11:05  PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
>
> A bit on  the strong money side but in Frank's back
> yard  !!!!

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Mar 23 15:54:20 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:54:20 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pressure gauge & oil pressure warning light (not
 oil filter due change light
Message-ID: <2c02f.2b34f9ee.38daa09c@aol.com>

Hi list,
 
Anyone with an oil pressure guage and and oil pressure warning light on  
their Spridget?  I do have both on my car but plan on changing the way I've  
done this.  Photos of how you've done this off list to me please.
 
Thanks
 
Weslake-Monza 1330

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 23 15:55:06 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:55:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
In-Reply-To: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>
References: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <898464.5128.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

As with all these threads, there's a sucker out there who just might think it's perfect.  Obviously, someone who will find his mistake when he joins this forum and meets y'all!

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
To: tequila.brad at gmail.com; eap2140 at yahoo.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 3:52:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ

It's a mixture of parts - look at the window winders and then look at the 
brake master cylinder.  As far as being an ex SCCA racer I wonder if used 
those air filters???  Minilite wheels look more like replica minilites to 
me.
 
In a message dated 23/03/2010 21:53:28 GMT Standard Time, 
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:
It's a 3 
>  wiper car, so it most likely has had a VIN plate swap in it's past.
>
>On 
>  Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> 
>  wrote:
>
>> I've never seen a green interior... different.  A 
>  little steep on the
>> price.
>>
>>  Edward Perez
>> 
>  Snohomish, WA
>> 78 Midget (1275)
>> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>  ________________________________
>> From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" 
>  <shop at justbrits.com>
>> To: 4 - Spridgets 
>  <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:11:05 
>  PM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
>>
>> A bit on 
>  the strong money side but in Frank's back
>> yard 
>!!!!

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 15:58:34 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:58:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
In-Reply-To: <898464.5128.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>
	<898464.5128.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003231558o2a9feb1dy867bca954a1159c8@mail.gmail.com>

I emailed the seller (partshipper) about it being incorrect. Standard reply
was "I've seen lots of 67's with three wipers" Just to be an ass, I quoted
Horler, down to the page number, and chassis number of the cars at the
change.
You can't fix stupid

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> As with all these threads, there's a sucker out there who just might think
> it's perfect.  Obviously, someone who will find his mistake when he joins
> this forum and meets y'all!
>
>
> Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
> *To:* tequila.brad at gmail.com; eap2140 at yahoo.com
> *Cc:* spridgets at autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Tue, March 23, 2010 3:52:12 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
>
>  It's a mixture of parts - look at the window winders and then look at the
> brake master cylinder.  As far as being an ex SCCA racer I wonder if used
> those air filters???  Minilite wheels look more like replica minilites to
> me.
>
> In a message dated 23/03/2010 21:53:28 GMT Standard Time,
> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:
>
> It's a 3 wiper car, so it most likely has had a VIN plate swap in it's
> past.
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I've never seen a green interior... different.  A little steep on the
> > price.
> >
> >  Edward Perez
> > Snohomish, WA
> > 78 Midget (1275)
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
> > To: 4 - Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 2:11:05 PM
> > Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
> >
> > A bit on the strong money side but in Frank's back
> > yard !!!!
>
>
>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Mar 23 16:30:34 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:30:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
In-Reply-To: <898464.5128.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>
	<898464.5128.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <722771.29364.qm@web84204.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

You talking to me??  <VBG>

 Dave G.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>

> As with all these threads, there's a sucker out there who just might think it's 
> perfect.  Obviously, someone who will find his mistake when he joins this 
> forum and meets y'all!

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Mar 23 17:04:42 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:04:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
References: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200>

I am looking at a 2009 Mustang that has a 510 HP Roush P51b engine installed 
by Roush.  Anybody on the list sometimes go to the dark side and know 
anything good or bad about these cars.  It is the fastest car I have ever 
driven and sure to give the local tuners a run for their money.  Plus it 
could be a fun everyday driver.  Keeping the Bugeye for sure just looking to 
add something for year arround fun.

Mark
Nashville 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Mar 23 17:24:11 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:24:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200>
References: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>
	<779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <730520D286B345F582385FB9E960558B@spider>

"The new ROUSH P-51A engine has a preliminary rating of at least 510
horsepower and 510 lb.-ft. torque." Isn't this close to what the Can-Am cars
were running when the series died? I though the P51 was from WWII?? ...bill
in Oregon

==========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:05 PM
To: Spridgets
Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC

I am looking at a 2009 Mustang that has a 510 HP Roush P51b engine installed

by Roush.  Anybody on the list sometimes go to the dark side and know 
anything good or bad about these cars.  It is the fastest car I have ever 
driven and sure to give the local tuners a run for their money.  Plus it 
could be a fun everyday driver.  Keeping the Bugeye for sure just looking to

add something for year around fun.

Mark
Nashville 
_______________________________________________

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 23 17:26:52 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:26:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200>
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Mark, bringing this new toy to the Midget 50th at Elkhart Lake next year 
would not necessarily be looked upon as a "bad" thing.

Hell, I would look forward to seeing it.

Go for it!!


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:04 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Cc: <shop-talk at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC

I am looking at a 2009 Mustang that has a 510 HP Roush P51b engine installed
by Roush.  Anybody on the list sometimes go to the dark side and know
anything good or bad about these cars.  It is the fastest car I have ever
driven and sure to give the local tuners a run for their money.  Plus it
could be a fun everyday driver.  Keeping the Bugeye for sure just looking to
add something for year arround fun.

Mark
Nashville
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Mar 23 17:31:13 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:31:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com><4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com><d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com><3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2><d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com><EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2><d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
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It's a little perplexing...

On one hand the original Datsum manual specifies 80W-90 or even the heavier
140wt for higher temperatures as Mike indicated

But we observe that the notchy shift goes away as the tranny wams up.
This seems to imply that a overall thinner gear oil would be prefered,
such as the multi-weight 75w90 that is suggested by Rivergate and others.

It's contradictory, I mean that I would have thought  that a thicker gear oil would 
help the action of the sychros, but that appears not to be the case.

I'd like to believe that I could put in a API-GL4 lube and my notchy shift would
magically disappear, but somehow I don't think that will happen.

Unless of course, someone else out there had a notchy shift and it went away when they
swaped in Redline MT-90 or something similiar.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 17:47:47 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:47:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <CAF5C1CEE1D74E4C9D11393CB563F357@HomePC>
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> I am looking at a 2009 Mustang that has a 510 HP Roush P51b engine
installed
> by Roush.  Anybody on the list sometimes go to the dark side and know
> anything good or bad about these cars.  It is the fastest car I have ever
> driven and sure to give the local tuners a run for their money.  Plus it
> could be a fun everyday driver.  Keeping the Bugeye for sure just looking
to
> add something for year arround fun.

You could sell tickets to watch you try to drive it in the snow ;-)
David L

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 23 17:52:24 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:52:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <730520D286B345F582385FB9E960558B@spider>
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Not even close.  800 to 900 HP was the norm.  The Porsche 917/30 was 
estimated at nearly 1200 HP in race tune and nearly 1600 HP in qualifying 
tune.  That HP is what caused the series to die.  Total domination does not 
make for a fun spectator event.

NASCAR understands that and phonies up a race to become a spectacle.

Sorry, the 510 HP Mustang may be impressive, but it's not even close to the 
Porsche, or any other,  Can-Am car.


Porsche forever,

LAD
--------------------------------------------------
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:24 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC

"The new ROUSH P-51A engine has a preliminary rating of at least 510
horsepower and 510 lb.-ft. torque." Isn't this close to what the Can-Am cars
were running when the series died? I though the P51 was from WWII?? ...bill
in Oregon

==========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:05 PM
To: Spridgets
Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC

I am looking at a 2009 Mustang that has a 510 HP Roush P51b engine installed

by Roush.  Anybody on the list sometimes go to the dark side and know
anything good or bad about these cars.  It is the fastest car I have ever
driven and sure to give the local tuners a run for their money.  Plus it
could be a fun everyday driver.  Keeping the Bugeye for sure just looking to

add something for year around fun.

Mark
Nashville
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Mar 23 18:01:03 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:01:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
References: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>
	<779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200>
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I think they only made 51 of those animals Mark.  
Chances are mighty slim that someone here has one of the other 50.
But I guess it never hurts to ask.
 
In any case I don't think you can go wrong that.  The downside as a daily
driver is having to put premium in it all the time.

The only other thing I can't stand about the new Mustangs is that they
don't have independent rear suspension.  Who, in this day and age,
designs a sports car with a solid rear axle?

For this reason I keep eyeing up used 2006 Pontiac GTO's on Craigslist
but the"Premium Problem" always gets in the way...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC


>I am looking at a 2009 Mustang that has a 510 HP Roush P51b engine installed 
> by Roush.  Anybody on the list sometimes go to the dark side and know 
> anything good or bad about these cars.  It is the fastest car I have ever 
> driven and sure to give the local tuners a run for their money.  Plus it 
> could be a fun everyday driver.  Keeping the Bugeye for sure just looking to 
> add something for year arround fun.

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Mar 23 18:03:10 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:03:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com><4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com><d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com><3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2><d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com><EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2><d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com><0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2><31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN>
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This should clear it up. :)  My 5 speed had GL in it when I got it and had a 
little problem with 1st to 2nd crunch.  I replaced it with MT90 and it still 
has the same problem.  It also has the same problem from 3rd to 2nd and I 
learned to double clutch it.  I did figure out the if I shifted above 4000 
it was good to go plus it adds to the smile factor.

Mark
Nashville




It's a little perplexing...

On one hand the original Datsum manual specifies 80W-90 or even the heavier
140wt for higher temperatures as Mike indicated

But we observe that the notchy shift goes away as the tranny wams up.
This seems to imply that a overall thinner gear oil would be prefered,
such as the multi-weight 75w90 that is suggested by Rivergate and others.

It's contradictory, I mean that I would have thought  that a thicker gear 
oil would
help the action of the sychros, but that appears not to be the case.

I'd like to believe that I could put in a API-GL4 lube and my notchy shift 
would
magically disappear, but somehow I don't think that will happen.

Unless of course, someone else out there had a notchy shift and it went away 
when they
swaped in Redline MT-90 or something similiar.
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar 23 18:07:25 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:07:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] '67 Sprite F/S - NJ
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Brad Fornal wrote:
> I emailed the seller (partshipper) about it being incorrect. Standard reply
> was "I've seen lots of 67's with three wipers" 

It is a 69 Sprite but the window winders and dash are 67 so the doors 
have been changed as was the dash but it does have the later master and 
collapsible
steering column bump and the wiper was in a unique spot for 67 under the 
fender up near the master not where it is on this 69.
No reverse lamps so I am wondering if this was once the yellow 69 Sprite 
I sold to a women in Ewing, NJ about 20 minutes from Pennington.
That car was a 69 And I usually weld up the reverse lamps because I just 
don't like them. I do not recall if I did on that car and I must have 
dumped the pictures since it is long gone.
The 69 I sold had a black interior though.
Either way, it's way too much for that car if you ask me.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Mar 23 18:05:42 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:05:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
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	<779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200> 
Message-ID: <D216C869329741A2AF7544E23AE49E66@spider>

I stand corrected, several times over. ...bill in oregon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_917

======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:24 PM
To: 'spridgets at autox.team.net'
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC

"The new ROUSH P-51A engine has a preliminary rating of at least 510
horsepower and 510 lb.-ft. torque." Isn't this close to what the Can-Am cars
were running when the series died?...bill in Oregon

==========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:05 PM
To: Spridgets
Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC

I am looking at a 2009 Mustang that has a 510 HP Roush P51b engine installed

by Roush.  Anybody on the list sometimes go to the dark side and know 
anything good or bad about these cars.  It is the fastest car I have ever 
driven and sure to give the local tuners a run for their money.  Plus it 
could be a fun everyday driver.  Keeping the Bugeye for sure just looking to

add something for year around fun.

Mark
Nashville 
_______________________________________________

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Mar 23 18:13:24 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:13:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
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	<779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200>
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Dean,

You are right that they only made 51 of the P51 Cars ($70K) but they also 
built two for a dealer in a stock body Mustang GT for about Mustang plus 
18K.  I have located both of them one is silver and one is red.  This car is 
one of the two "specials" built for a dealer friend.  It looks absolutely 
stock from the outside, not even a stripe to give it away.  Roush confirmed 
that they did the build and it still has 18mos warranty from Ford and Roush. 
The bottom end is new crank, rods, pistons plus bigger throttle bodies and 
injectors.  Also has hotter coil packs and a nice big blower.  The blown 
engines are fairly common and I was hoping someone might be familiar with 
the forced induction on the three valve 4.6.

Mark


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin"
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC


I think they only made 51 of those animals Mark.
Chances are mighty slim that someone here has one of the other 50.
But I guess it never hurts to ask.

In any case I don't think you can go wrong that.  The downside as a daily
driver is having to put premium in it all the time.

The only other thing I can't stand about the new Mustangs is that they
don't have independent rear suspension.  Who, in this day and age,
designs a sports car with a solid rear axle?

For this reason I keep eyeing up used 2006 Pontiac GTO's on Craigslist
but the"Premium Problem" always gets in the way...

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 23 18:35:19 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:35:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pressure gauge & oil pressure warning light
 (not oil filter due change light
In-Reply-To: <2c02f.2b34f9ee.38daa09c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <124147.11501.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

WLM,1330
 
i do not have photos but i used a splitter at the block.
I got it at ESM.Here is the part.
http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=acc20
3&osCsid=8de6636e246a53fb6d1179eaa1b8093a
 
I did not know there was any other way. How was yours done?
My wire & copper tube runs from the engine.
 
Vigil


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wrote:


From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pressure gauge & oil pressure warning light (not oil
filter due change light
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 3:54 PM


Hi list,

Anyone with an oil pressure guage and and oil pressure warning light on 
their Spridget?  I do have both on my car but plan on changing the way I've 
done this.  Photos of how you've done this off list to me please.

Thanks

Weslake-Monza 1330
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 23 19:01:16 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:01:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
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Message-ID: <105266.37982.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I guess it's not a P51 if there are only 51 out there, but I've got a co
worker who has a Roush modified Mustang with Supercharger and other goodies
that get it over 500 horsepower. The thing is an absolute blast. 

On a side
note, I was talking to my friend who started a Miata club in a friend's
basement years ago. Turned out the friend was Keith Tanner (Flyin' Miata guru
among others). We (Bruce Murphy for those who've met him) were talking about
the Corvette and how friggin' good these muscle cars are today. Flyin' Miata
will stuff a 430 HP motor in a Miata, but the thing ends up weighing only a
few hundred pounds more than a Vette without the proper wheelbase to handle
properly. If I had room in the garage right now and needed a "normal" car, an
American muscle car would be on my short list. 

Ron

--- On Tue, 3/23/10,
Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Dean Hedin
<dlh2001 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO
LBC
> To: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>, "Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 8:01 PM
> I think
they only made 51 of those
> animals Mark.  Chances are mighty slim that
someone
> here has one of the other 50.
> But I guess it never hurts to ask.
>
> In any case I don't think you can go wrong that.  The
> downside as a daily
> driver is having to put premium in it all the time.
> 
> The only other
thing I can't stand about the new Mustangs
> is that they
> don't have
independent rear suspension.  Who, in this
> day and age,
> designs a sports
car with a solid rear axle?
> 
> For this reason I keep eyeing up used 2006
Pontiac GTO's on
> Craigslist
> but the"Premium Problem" always gets in the
way...
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" <mark at nashvilletn.org>
>
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC
> 
> 
> > I am looking at a
2009 Mustang that has a 510 HP Roush
> P51b engine installed by Roush. 
Anybody on the list
> sometimes go to the dark side and know anything good or
bad
> about these cars.  It is the fastest car I have ever
> driven and sure
to give the local tuners a run for their
> money.  Plus it could be a fun
everyday driver. 
> Keeping the Bugeye for sure just looking to add something
> for year arround fun.
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar 23 19:13:09 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:13:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pressure gauge & oil pressure warning light
 (not oil filter due change light
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WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Hi list,
>  
> Anyone with an oil pressure guage and and oil pressure warning light on  
> their Spridget?  I do have both on my car but plan on changing the way I've  
> done this.  Photos of how you've done this off list to me please.
>  
>   
I have the gauge and light. I use the big green signal indicator as my 
oil light as it sits in front of my eyes.
I also added a temp warning lamp, it's amber.
My signal dash indicators are of the later Sprite arrows with 2 on the 
dash centered over the signal switch.
I use an MGB fitting as it has a spot for the electric sensor yet the 
oil hose screws into it.
I had it in the garage and made it all work.
My temp sensor is in the block drain.
Temp gauge is in the head.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 19:24:28 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:24:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC
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> .... Flyin' Miata
> will stuff a 430 HP motor in a Miata, but the thing ends up weighing only a
> few hundred pounds more than a Vette without the proper wheelbase to handle
> properly.

Seems to be a bit of an echo in here...
I mentioned the Flyin' Miata with a Vette engine last week, complete
with links like
http://flyinmiata.com/V8/
Ya otta git some of your facts straight, however. They will actually
put the LS3 500+ HP engine in there for you if you can afford it. It
winds up a couple hundred pounds more than the stock Miata, but
significantly LESS than the Vette. Does it handle? First one they did,
first outing was to a Corvette club autocross. It set FTD in the hands
of one driver and the other driver was a close second. The nearest
Vette was four seconds back. Keith Tanner DOES know what he is doing.
Comes with warranties, too...
David L

From irish_32_ at hotmail.com  Tue Mar 23 19:35:53 2010
From: irish_32_ at hotmail.com (Nathan Causey)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:35:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 clutch.  hydraulic? mechanical?
Message-ID: <COL109-W336FA6036B036F844E6E8CA7250@phx.gbl>

hey yall

having some clutch issues and was wanting a little feedback.  I thought my
issue was hydraulic, I have a new master and slave and line,  bled it and
still no real pressure.  I had the wife pump it while I was under the car
inspecting the slave... it seemed to actuate fully.

however, the clutch lever coming out of the tranny housing was fully back to
the rear of the car and the clutch was still not engaging.

my question is, is it possible to engage the clutch by hand (under the car and
ignoring the hydraulics) to test if something in the clutch itself is not
broken.  I could move the lever back and forth and it did not seem to engage
or disengage.

I am not sure if this is possible the manually move the clutch if I pull on
the lever or If  am even accomplishing anything.

secondly how would I know if this works as I do not really want to do this
with the engine running....

in all I cannot tell if the clutch is really moving- save for the fact that I
cannot get the car in gear while it is running

any help would be great

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 23 19:55:19 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <402188521003231924y39bf8371if8c2291bece5ef6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <148285.72264.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The stock vette only weighs 3100 pounds, the stock Miata is 2600. Add a few hundred for the mod, and it's as I said (I did check facts). The anecdote is interesting.

> Seems to be a bit of an echo in here...
> I mentioned the Flyin' Miata with a Vette engine last week,
> complete
> with links like
> http://flyinmiata.com/V8/

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 23 19:58:08 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:58:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <402188521003231924y39bf8371if8c2291bece5ef6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <649898.24825.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Make that 3200 pounds upon double check...

--- On Tue, 3/23/10, David Lieb
<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC
> To: "Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 9:24 PM
> > ....
Flyin' Miata
> > will stuff a 430 HP motor in a Miata, but the thing
> ends up
weighing only a
> > few hundred pounds more than a Vette without the
> proper
wheelbase to handle
> > properly.
> 
> Seems to be a bit of an echo in here...
> I mentioned the Flyin' Miata with a Vette engine last week,
> complete
>
with links like
> http://flyinmiata.com/V8/
> Ya otta git some of your facts
straight, however. They will
> actually
> put the LS3 500+ HP engine in there
for you if you can
> afford it. It
> winds up a couple hundred pounds more
than the stock Miata,
> but
> significantly LESS than the Vette. Does it
handle? First
> one they did,
> first outing was to a Corvette club autocross.
It set FTD
> in the hands
> of one driver and the other driver was a close
second. The
> nearest
> Vette was four seconds back. Keith Tanner DOES know
what he
> is doing.
> Comes with warranties, too...
> David L
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Mar 23 19:58:09 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:58:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 clutch.  hydraulic? mechanical?
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W336FA6036B036F844E6E8CA7250@phx.gbl>
References: <COL109-W336FA6036B036F844E6E8CA7250@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <ADD914DF28054D5A8EEE55F81BD2E0DA@spider>

Iffy on working the clutch by hand under the car. Maybe if you had long
lever arm, but I wouldn't do it if the car were on jack stands. ...bill in
oregon
=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Nathan Causey
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 7:36 PM
To: spridget forum
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 clutch. hydraulic? mechanical?

hey yall

having some clutch issues and was wanting a little feedback.  I thought my
issue was hydraulic, I have a new master and slave and line,  bled it and
still no real pressure.  I had the wife pump it while I was under the car
inspecting the slave... it seemed to actuate fully.

however, the clutch lever coming out of the tranny housing was fully back to
the rear of the car and the clutch was still not engaging.

my question is, is it possible to engage the clutch by hand (under the car
and
ignoring the hydraulics) to test if something in the clutch itself is not
broken.  I could move the lever back and forth and it did not seem to engage
or disengage.

I am not sure if this is possible the manually move the clutch if I pull on
the lever or If  am even accomplishing anything.

secondly how would I know if this works as I do not really want to do this
with the engine running....

in all I cannot tell if the clutch is really moving- save for the fact that
I
cannot get the car in gear while it is running

any help would be great

_________________________________________________________________

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Mar 23 20:15:58 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:15:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com><4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com><d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com><3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2><d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com><EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2><d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2>
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	<7A746411E6C349E68B33508C39DA5707@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <BA5FB32ED13A45998723B6416A5E0032@MAIN>

I am using Redline, but I do not remember which formulation.  It has been a 
few years since I did the drain and refill.  I ran what ever Datsun 
recomended first, and when I wasn't happy with the noise/ crunch, I switched 
to the Redline.  I bought what my local import store looked up on their 
chart.  Sorry I can't be more specific.

Dave R.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
To: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box


>I am glad you chimed in David.
> Now I must ask, what kind of oil are you running in your gearbox?


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From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Tue Mar 23 20:31:36 2010
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:31:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>

I've run out of adjustment range on the rear brakes. New shoes, etc.
I seem to recall that there was some talk about some adjustment wedges 
were longer or wider than others and that you could weld a bead of metal 
on one to make it bigger.
Anyone remember the details about this?
Thanks.
Lee

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Mar 23 20:52:04 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:52:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com><4BA69F4B.6070304@justbrits.com><d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com><3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2><d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com><EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2><d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2>
	<31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN>
	<DD9020064D1B4CF59DB4A35D283BE7E7@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <E1A627E50DD24550A90145D7F463389C@MAIN>

Dean,
Bearings like lubrication, syncros do not.  The syncronizer teeth have to 
bite into the opposing cone in a balancing act that eventually wears the 
syncronizer out.  As the syncro bites at the cone, the cone spins up to 
match the speed of the syncronizer, and then the gear change is possible. 
If the lubricant is too thick, the film prevents the teeth from biting into 
the cone.  If the lubricant is too slippery, the teeth can't bite into the 
cone.  So you need a lube that is strong enough to protect the gears and 
bearings, but not so slippery or thick as to prevent the syncros from 
performing their function.  Too thin of a lubricant, and you will get 
premature wear of the gears and bearings.  Thicker lubricants acts as a 
cushion between the gears, quieting noisy gears.  Then again, without the 
heat produced by combustion, there is far less heat generated in the 
transmission than in the engine, so a muli-viscosity engine oil may never 
behave like the higher number would suggest.

Here is a link to a viscosity chart: 
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/visc.html

As you can see, 85W gear oil is the same viscosity as 30W engine oil.  Thus, 
the recomendation for a 75W-90 seems to make sense, however the use of 
synthetic may be counter productive as it could be too slippery for the 
syncros to function correctly.

Dave R.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
To: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box


> It's a little perplexing...
>
> On one hand the original Datsum manual specifies 80W-90 or even the 
> heavier
> 140wt for higher temperatures as Mike indicated
>
> But we observe that the notchy shift goes away as the tranny wams up.
> This seems to imply that a overall thinner gear oil would be prefered,
> such as the multi-weight 75w90 that is suggested by Rivergate and others.
>
> It's contradictory, I mean that I would have thought  that a thicker gear 
> oil would
> help the action of the sychros, but that appears not to be the case.
>
> I'd like to believe that I could put in a API-GL4 lube and my notchy shift 
> would
> magically disappear, but somehow I don't think that will happen.
>
> Unless of course, someone else out there had a notchy shift and it went 
> away when they
> swaped in Redline MT-90 or something similiar.
>
>


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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 03:03:47 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:03:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003240303u785432ecu963705f1180de071@mail.gmail.com>

IIRC, you should weld a bead onto your brake shoe, to make it a bit longer.
Adjust the replaceable part, not the part you will need on the car
permanently, IMHO. Should you ever get a correct set of brake shoes, and you
have changed your adjuster wedge.....

Brad

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Lee Fox <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I've run out of adjustment range on the rear brakes. New shoes, etc.
> I seem to recall that there was some talk about some adjustment wedges were
> longer or wider than others and that you could weld a bead of metal on one
> to make it bigger.
> Anyone remember the details about this?
> Thanks.
> Lee
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From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Mar 24 03:25:41 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:25:41 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1A152B714A9F42748F037CEF655E46A4@user8634b3d69b>

Lee,

Have you considered the drums may need replacing?
Check all of the wear surfaces to find out just what is wrong - are the new 
shoes the right ones?

What Brad says is right - but you shouldn't need to weld metal lumps on the 
end of brake shoes to make them work!

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lee Fox" <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge


> I've run out of adjustment range on the rear brakes. New shoes, etc.
> I seem to recall that there was some talk about some adjustment wedges 
> were longer or wider than others and that you could weld a bead of metal 
> on one to make it bigger.
> Anyone remember the details about this?
> Thanks.
> Lee
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 24 04:49:12 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:49:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <730520D286B345F582385FB9E960558B@spider>
References: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>,
	<779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200>,
	<730520D286B345F582385FB9E960558B@spider>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w24D241DE602D3892FD614FC2250@phx.gbl>

Can-Am no, but early Trans -Am cars, yes.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:24:11 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
>
> "The new ROUSH P-51A engine has a preliminary rating of at least 510
> horsepower and 510 lb.-ft. torque." Isn't this close to what the Can-Am
cars
> were running when the series died? I though the P51 was from WWII?? ...bill
> in Oregon
>
> ==========================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:05 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Cc: shop-talk at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC
>
> I am looking at a 2009 Mustang that has a 510 HP Roush P51b engine
installed
>
> by Roush.  Anybody on the list sometimes go to the dark side and know
> anything good or bad about these cars.  It is the fastest car I have ever
> driven and sure to give the local tuners a run for their money.  Plus it
> could be a fun everyday driver.  Keeping the Bugeye for sure just looking
to
>
> add something for year around fun.
>
> Mark
> Nashville
>

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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 05:11:01 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:11:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <1A152B714A9F42748F037CEF655E46A4@user8634b3d69b>
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net> 
	<4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
	<1A152B714A9F42748F037CEF655E46A4@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <416619498743329804@unknownmsgid>

Lee,

Have you considered the drums may need replacing?
Check all of the wear surfaces to find out just what is wrong - are the new
shoes the right ones?

What Brad says is right - but you shouldn't need to weld metal lumps on the
end of brake shoes to make them work.


Guy,
This is a common problem here. New drums, new shoes, new wedges, and still
the adjuster is nearly all the way in. The best theory I have seen is that
the shoes were built from a bad pattern.
David L

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 24 05:17:22 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 05:17:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <1A152B714A9F42748F037CEF655E46A4@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <40626.68168.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 3/24/10, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:
What Brad says is right - but you shouldn't need to weld metal lumps on the end of brake shoes to make them work!

I agree with you Guy, and the cores should be checked before relining, but someone must be sleeping on the job. I wasted a lot of time by changing everything else during several assemblies and assuming these brand new shoes in the ABS box were correct. There was no way to make them work and they had to be replaced. It appears to me that the two pieces that make up the shoe were not located correctly when they were spot welded together, but I suppose these shoes fit another application and it is difficult to see the difference during the relining operation. I kept a picture of the "Shoes from hell" which I can dig up this evening if anyone is interested. I decided not to return them to save someone else from having to go through the same problem.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 05:17:39 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:17:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <649898.24825.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <649898.24825.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <-2046741287740343009@unknownmsgid>

But Ron, the curb weight of an NA Miata is a bit under 2200, while the
NB checks in at a little over 2300. Add the 200 to that and you are
STILL 700 pounds less than the Vette.
David L

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 05:26:57 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:26:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <1A152B714A9F42748F037CEF655E46A4@user8634b3d69b>
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
	<1A152B714A9F42748F037CEF655E46A4@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003240526p372b4cf9pdd8a3bad15da0936@mail.gmail.com>

Guy, here in the states, we are having an issue with the Chinese made shoes
not being correct. Several folks I have spoken with have new drums, and
still need to "add" to the length of the shoes. It is done with a bit of
creative welding.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Lee,
>
> Have you considered the drums may need replacing?
> Check all of the wear surfaces to find out just what is wrong - are the new
> shoes the right ones?
>
> What Brad says is right - but you shouldn't need to weld metal lumps on the
> end of brake shoes to make them work!
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Fox" <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:31 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
>
>
>  I've run out of adjustment range on the rear brakes. New shoes, etc.
>> I seem to recall that there was some talk about some adjustment wedges
>> were longer or wider than others and that you could weld a bead of metal on
>> one to make it bigger.
>> Anyone remember the details about this?
>> Thanks.
>> Lee
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Mar 24 05:28:17 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:28:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] stuff - no direct LBC
Message-ID: <BAY112-W512E5FA2DFE3832215FB5CB8250@phx.gbl>

There's an anti-"stuff" video here.  Some here will agree with some parts of
it.



http://storyofstuff.org/



Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 24 05:30:44 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:30:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <F602F0C4983B4A86B9F4F660554E9AEF@Dell9200>
References: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>,
	<779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200>,
	<412F4FC67824441099AE58FA3EAA30A7@blackbox2>,
	<F602F0C4983B4A86B9F4F660554E9AEF@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w23AA6F6182C6D6A2AB2CCC2250@phx.gbl>

Mark,

As one who is partially on the darkside....:-)
I have a 2006 GT convertible, oonly 300hp, regular gas,
 but has surprised many cars that should be faster.
LOVE it!. Pretty fast, for me, very fast to others, heheheh
Wish it had more HP, Bugeye ate up money for a blower upgrade. :-)
Comfortable, handles very well, it ain't a Miata or Spridget...but they can't
run 13 sec 1/4's
or do smoky burnouts with 4 people in em either. Gives me a BIG grin! ( such a
hoon sometimes)
Gets 25mpg hwy
My Aunt, whose former Bugeye racecar I have, had a 2006 Roush 427R. 435hp.
Definitely significantly faster than mine, and better handling also with the
Roush suspension mods.
Does the car you're looking at have any of the Roush brake or suspension mods
on it?
You'll need better tires on it to get it to stick hard at launch, if they are
presently the
stock Pirellis. Tho they work well as an all around tire, even in the snow.

The 3 valve 4.6 motors have been pretty bulletproof stock, and have proven to
be able to
take quite a bit of boost in stock form also.
 I'm sure with a Roush built bottom end, it would be able to take the 510hp
and live a long time.
The Roush/TVS r2300 blowers have been pretty reliable from what I've heard,
and obviously
make great power. They can be further tuned and pulley upgraded to 700hp.
Hey, you'll have 18 months to beat the ever loving snot out of it!!

They're a quite a few good web sites with good forums for these things.
www.s197forum.com
www.bradbarnett.net/mustangs
www.stangnet.com
are a couple.

I think you should definitely go for it!!!!!
The only thing you'll regret is spending more money on your Midget's engine
too!!!

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: mark at nashvilletn.org
> To: dlh2001 at comcast.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:13:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
>
> Dean,
>
> You are right that they only made 51 of the P51 Cars ($70K) but they also
> built two for a dealer in a stock body Mustang GT for about Mustang plus
> 18K.  I have located both of them one is silver and one is red.  This car is
> one of the two "specials" built for a dealer friend.  It looks absolutely
> stock from the outside, not even a stripe to give it away.  Roush confirmed
> that they did the build and it still has 18mos warranty from Ford and Roush.
> The bottom end is new crank, rods, pistons plus bigger throttle bodies and
> injectors.  Also has hotter coil packs and a nice big blower.  The blown
> engines are fairly common and I was hoping someone might be familiar with
> the forced induction on the three valve 4.6.
>
> Mark
>
>
>

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From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Mar 24 05:50:22 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:50:22 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
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	<416619498743329804@unknownmsgid>
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David,
I readily accept it is a common problem and this enquiry has been raised 
many, many times in the past and at length.

I've too have come across the problem with part worn shoes but never with 
new.  This problem needs to be correctly resolved both for Lee's and others 
concerns.

But is the correct answer to place a lump of weld on the end of the shoes? 
If they are wrong shouldn't representation be made to the brake shoe 
supplier / manufacturer or to stop buying short length shoes.  (Drift away 
from being serious - No one is allowed to mention dwarves !! )

Should we be asking suppliers to measure the brake shoes to see what 
variations there are within them?

Best wishes

Guy R Day



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Lieb
  To: Guy R Day
  Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
  Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge




    Lee,
    Have you considered the drums may need replacing?
    Check all of the wear surfaces to find out just what is wrong - are the 
new shoes the right ones?

    What Brad says is right - but you shouldn't need to weld metal lumps on 
the end of brake shoes to make them work.



  Guy,
  This is a common problem here. New drums, new shoes, new wedges, and still 
the adjuster is nearly all the way in. The best theory I have seen is that 
the shoes were built from a bad pattern.
  David L 

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Mar 24 05:50:00 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:50:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Flying Miata's and Vettes
In-Reply-To: <402188521003231924y39bf8371if8c2291bece5ef6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <412F4FC67824441099AE58FA3EAA30A7@blackbox2>,
	<105266.37982.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<402188521003231924y39bf8371if8c2291bece5ef6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w64A3EA71A449956C128D1AC2250@phx.gbl>

Just wanted to clarify,
Stock LS2 is 400hp
Stock LS3 is 435hp
Stock LS7 (427 cu in) 505hp.

The supposed 480hp crate motor (bigger cam) they put in one,
only put out 389hp at the wheels. Sounds like not much more than stock.

Still has to be CRAZY fast tho.

Question:

How is it that a 435hp 378 cu in LS3 in a new Vette can get 28mpg hwy,

yet a 300hp 2 liter EVO or 2.5 liter WRX STi can only get 23-25 hwy???
They're small engines, but they can't need boost to maintain hwy speeds, can
they?
Yeah the Vette has big overdrive gears, but with 6 speed boxes in the small
cars,
why don't they use a tall 6th also?

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:24:28 -0500
> From: 72spridget at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine NO LBC
>
> > .... Flyin' Miata
> > will stuff a 430 HP motor in a Miata, but the thing ends up weighing only
a
> > few hundred pounds more than a Vette without the proper wheelbase to
handle
> > properly.
>
> Seems to be a bit of an echo in here...
> I mentioned the Flyin' Miata with a Vette engine last week, complete
> with links like
> http://flyinmiata.com/V8/
> Ya otta git some of your facts straight, however. They will actually
> put the LS3 500+ HP engine in there for you if you can afford it. It
> winds up a couple hundred pounds more than the stock Miata, but
> significantly LESS than the Vette. Does it handle? First one they did,
> first outing was to a Corvette club autocross. It set FTD in the hands
> of one driver and the other driver was a close second. The nearest
> Vette was four seconds back. Keith Tanner DOES know what he is doing.
> Comes with warranties, too...
> David L
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 06:45:06 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:45:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <B0840FB8E1774A5C803CB9D7E44EED9C@user8634b3d69b>
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
	<1A152B714A9F42748F037CEF655E46A4@user8634b3d69b>
	<416619498743329804@unknownmsgid>
	<B0840FB8E1774A5C803CB9D7E44EED9C@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <402188521003240645i7db97f71tb0cbaf1edb3dc0eb@mail.gmail.com>

> I've too have come across the problem with part worn shoes but never with
> new.  This problem needs to be correctly resolved both for Lee's and others
> concerns.
>
> But is the correct answer to place a lump of weld on the end of the shoes?
> If they are wrong shouldn't representation be made to the brake shoe
> supplier / manufacturer or to stop buying short length shoes.  (Drift away
> from being serious - No one is allowed to mention dwarves !! )
>
> Should we be asking suppliers to measure the brake shoes to see what
> variations there are within them?

Yes, we should. I, however, am not prepared to abstain from driving my
Spridgets while waiting for the "correct" answer ;-)

OTOH, I have been told by people who seemed to know whereof they
spoke, that the wider shoes from the front brakes of the last vintage
of Mini Coopers to run all drums will fit and work fine. I have not
yet acquired a set to test, however. Would you happen to know what
year(s) that would be? I have very little vintage Mini information
available to me.
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 06:48:53 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:48:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Flying Miata's and Vettes
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w64A3EA71A449956C128D1AC2250@phx.gbl>
References: <412F4FC67824441099AE58FA3EAA30A7@blackbox2>
	<105266.37982.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188521003231924y39bf8371if8c2291bece5ef6f@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <402188521003240648u1d128599tab8b4a7d032d6523@mail.gmail.com>

> Just wanted to clarify,
> Stock LS2 is 400hp
> Stock LS3 is 435hp
> Stock LS7 (427 cu in) 505hp.

Yup, those are the STOCK numbers. Never said they left them stock.
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 06:55:42 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:55:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Flying Miata's and Vettes
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w64A3EA71A449956C128D1AC2250@phx.gbl>
References: <412F4FC67824441099AE58FA3EAA30A7@blackbox2>
	<105266.37982.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188521003231924y39bf8371if8c2291bece5ef6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY145-w64A3EA71A449956C128D1AC2250@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188521003240655v7348c28bh6f3b3ef7bf39cd45@mail.gmail.com>

> How is it that a 435hp 378 cu in LS3 in a new Vette can get 28mpg hwy,
> yet a 300hp 2 liter EVO or 2.5 liter WRX STi can only get 23-25 hwy???
> They're small engines, but they can't need boost to maintain hwy speeds, can
> they?

One reason might be that people needed the Vette to make decent MPG in
order to convince SWMBO to let them buy it, therefore GM put a lot of
effort into that 6th gear being very tall and the engine management
willing to optimize for that. OTOH, NO ONE buys an STi for the
mileage, they buy it for the crazy factor ;-) Subaru is probably proud
of the mileage it doesn't get. Take a look at the demographics of the
purchasers...
David L

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed Mar 24 06:57:46 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:57:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <E1A627E50DD24550A90145D7F463389C@MAIN>
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	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
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	<DD9020064D1B4CF59DB4A35D283BE7E7@blackbox2>
	<E1A627E50DD24550A90145D7F463389C@MAIN>
Message-ID: <d49b03131003240657j7e7bc5f9t5c5b02f0d60194a4@mail.gmail.com>

Here, read what Redline says about MT-90 and synchros, gears and coefficient
of friction, etc. http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46&pcid=7
Mike MacLean


On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:52 PM, David Riker <davriker at nwi.net> wrote:

> Dean,
> Bearings like lubrication, syncros do not.  The syncronizer teeth have to
> bite into the opposing cone in a balancing act that eventually wears the
> syncronizer out.  As the syncro bites at the cone, the cone spins up to
> match the speed of the syncronizer, and then the gear change is possible.
> If the lubricant is too thick, the film prevents the teeth from biting into
> the cone.  If the lubricant is too slippery, the teeth can't bite into the
> cone.  So you need a lube that is strong enough to protect the gears and
> bearings, but not so slippery or thick as to prevent the syncros from
> performing their function.  Too thin of a lubricant, and you will get
> premature wear of the gears and bearings.  Thicker lubricants acts as a
> cushion between the gears, quieting noisy gears.  Then again, without the
> heat produced by combustion, there is far less heat generated in the
> transmission than in the engine, so a muli-viscosity engine oil may never
> behave like the higher number would suggest.
>
> Here is a link to a viscosity chart:
> http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/visc.html
>
> As you can see, 85W gear oil is the same viscosity as 30W engine oil.
>  Thus,
> the recomendation for a 75W-90 seems to make sense, however the use of
> synthetic may be counter productive as it could be too slippery for the
> syncros to function correctly.
>
> Dave R.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
> To: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 5:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
>
>
> > It's a little perplexing...
> >
> > On one hand the original Datsum manual specifies 80W-90 or even the
> > heavier
> > 140wt for higher temperatures as Mike indicated
> >
> > But we observe that the notchy shift goes away as the tranny wams up.
> > This seems to imply that a overall thinner gear oil would be prefered,
> > such as the multi-weight 75w90 that is suggested by Rivergate and others.
> >
> > It's contradictory, I mean that I would have thought  that a thicker gear
> > oil would
> > help the action of the sychros, but that appears not to be the case.
> >
> > I'd like to believe that I could put in a API-GL4 lube and my notchy
> shift
> > would
> > magically disappear, but somehow I don't think that will happen.
> >
> > Unless of course, someone else out there had a notchy shift and it went
> > away when they
> > swaped in Redline MT-90 or something similiar.
> >
> >
>
>
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From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Wed Mar 24 07:42:59 2010
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:42:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Flying Miata's and Vettes
In-Reply-To: <402188521003240655v7348c28bh6f3b3ef7bf39cd45@mail.gmail.com>
References: <412F4FC67824441099AE58FA3EAA30A7@blackbox2>
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	<402188521003231924y39bf8371if8c2291bece5ef6f@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey! I have an sti!!! I get 28 hwy with the dccd set to the rear, my  
sti is 300whp, 80 more than stock, and I have a turbo miata that used  
to be 300 whp, both cars are incredible and FAST! miata gets 33-35 hwy  
mileage

Sincerely,

Matt

On Mar 24, 2010, at 9:55 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

>> How is it that a 435hp 378 cu in LS3 in a new Vette can get 28mpg  
>> hwy,
>> yet a 300hp 2 liter EVO or 2.5 liter WRX STi can only get 23-25  
>> hwy???
>> They're small engines, but they can't need boost to maintain hwy  
>> speeds, can
>> they?
>
> One reason might be that people needed the Vette to make decent MPG in
> order to convince SWMBO to let them buy it, therefore GM put a lot of
> effort into that 6th gear being very tall and the engine management
> willing to optimize for that. OTOH, NO ONE buys an STi for the
> mileage, they buy it for the crazy factor ;-) Subaru is probably proud
> of the mileage it doesn't get. Take a look at the demographics of the
> purchasers...
> David L
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed Mar 24 07:46:09 2010
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:46:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601C89F@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

"...Representation to the brake shoe supplier"???

Now that's an optimistic thought.  I nominate Clarici for the job!

I have had this problem on my vintage race Midget-new drums, new shoes,
new wedges, not enough adjustment.

I put the weld along the bottom "abutting edge" of each shoe, which is
more or less the stationary end.  Probably good to have each bead about
equal in thickness (good luck!). You don't need much. Problem solved.



Dear Mr. Wang Chu:

I would like to bring your attention to a manufacturing tolerance issue
in the brake shoes you have supplied to the usual suspects in the
country over here that you guys own. I know this is of great concern to
you...blah blah blah....



Very truly yours,

Nigel Johnsfolly





From: "Guy R Day" <grday at btinternet.com>

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge

To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>

Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net

Message-ID: <B0840FB8E1774A5C803CB9D7E44EED9C at user8634b3d69b>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"



...If they are wrong shouldn't representation be made to the brake shoe

supplier / manufacturer or to stop buying short length shoes.  (Drift
away

from being serious - No one is allowed to mention dwarves !! )



Should we be asking suppliers to measure the brake shoes to see what

variations there are within them?



Best wishes



Guy R Day

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Mar 24 08:12:56 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:12:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <B0840FB8E1774A5C803CB9D7E44EED9C@user8634b3d69b>
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Message-ID: <9DFF88FF8E75444CB4BEEC696D6A88FD@Home>

> Should we be asking suppliers to measure the brake shoes to see what
> variations there are within them?

This only works if we ALL simply send them back and demand the proper 
product.  Or we stop buying from them and tell them why.

There will be no changes in the system until it gets expensive to continue 
business as usual.  Why should there be a change?  The purpose if these 
businesses is to make money.  As long as they continue making money, they 
are fulfilling their purpose.

Michael Rowe 

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Mar 24 08:19:15 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:19:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Toy
References: <48B782AC-AD8E-41BE-A130-13996AAA1765@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <242D237F-813D-40BB-9C1E-739068BEC83E@ado13.com>

Shield your eyes when the picture first comes up :-)

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 24 08:37:37 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:37:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w23AA6F6182C6D6A2AB2CCC2250@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <390678.89242.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My friend who's got the Roush has a special parking space right outside my office window. Every day when he leaves he romps the throttle for my benefit. It sounds amazing.

--- On Wed, 3/24/10, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> As one who is partially on the darkside....:-)
> I have a 2006 GT convertible, oonly 300hp, regular gas,
>  but has surprised many cars that should be faster.
> LOVE it!. Pretty fast, for me, very fast to others,
> I think you should definitely go for it!!!!!
> The only thing you'll regret is spending more money on your

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Mar 24 09:09:58 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:09:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Toy with link
References: <242D237F-813D-40BB-9C1E-739068BEC83E@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <03A19CDF-DFDD-4061-AEF5-4CB6E68B955D@ado13.com>

http://tinyurl.com/y9jt58k

From rdgard at cox.net  Wed Mar 24 10:05:03 2010
From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:05:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 34, Issue 57
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9968.1269406336.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9968.1269406336.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1173E29B547E4D98921EC7A835700B19@internetpc>

 Ron,

Back about 20 years ago, there was a small company in Escondido, CA that
started to stuff a 400 HP supercharged Thunderbird engine into the Miata.
They called it a Monster Miata.  I was hired to film three days with the car
for some beauty shots, a Photo shoot for a feature in Motor Trend, an
attempt at the LA County Drag way to break the 4 second 0 to 60 barrier
(which was big then) and then a track day at Willow Springs in a shoot out
between a Viper, a JBA prepped Mustang, a Saleen Mustang and the Monster
Miata.

This company, the name of the guy escapes me now, had some kind of a deal
with Ford (they used to make Cobra Rep cars) and they allowed him to go
diving in their parts bin and he came up with the 400 HP Thunderbird
engine/supercharger combo that was smog legal and would fit in the car.  The
car was street legal also.

Bottom line, at the drags, on street tires (shaved) the turned 3.98 sec to
60, and at The Streets of Willow, It did well except for two things, the
short wheel base was rather squirrely and the pro driver said that he could
not use the full potential of the car with out crashing, and there was some
aerodynamic problem in front that they did not get full air flow to the rad
and at full chat on a very hot day it would boil over several times.

I think they only made one of them, tho there might have been a second one
under way when they folded.

Cheers,

Bob in SanDiego


Robert D. Gardner
 
Gardner Productions LLC
Film and Video Production since 1978
619-460-1000
www.gardnerproductions.com

 
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Mar 24 10:12:44 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:12:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Said before, but worth repeating. . .
Message-ID: <87d2rg$89goek@email.mtu.edu>

The following story comes from my local newspaper. Be careful guys & gals!

    "Midland County Sheriff Jerry Nielsen said a gentleman was 
working on a vehicle in the garage and the repair job required him to 
remove the gas tank. Some gasoline was spilled from the tank in the 
process, and the report states a drop light ignited the gasoline 
fumes, causing an explosion."


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Mar 24 10:33:22 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:33:22 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
Message-ID: <1e40c.71b90a59.38dba6e2@aol.com>

There are short and long wedges.
 
In a message dated 24/03/2010 12:26:25 GMT Standard Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

new  wedges,

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Mar 24 10:36:30 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:36:30 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
Message-ID: <1e7fd.21a3dd35.38dba79e@aol.com>

This is on cone synchromesh, a design no longer used?
 
In a message dated 24/03/2010 04:09:25 GMT Standard Time, davriker at nwi.net  
writes:

The  syncronizer teeth have to 
bite into the opposing cone in a balancing act  that eventually wears the 
syncronizer out.  

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Mar 24 10:42:18 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:42:18 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pressure gauge & oil pressure warning light
 (not oil filt...
Message-ID: <1eebf.7c664bc5.38dba8fa@aol.com>

Currently mine is done the same as Vigil's using the same part.  What  I 
plan on doing is putting a tee on the back of oil pressure gauge for the  
sender light.  It's neater and since I'll be using AN fittings (the Gauge  
fitting is NPTF rather than BSP) it will also be marginally lighter.
 
Thanks for all the replies.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330 
 
In a message dated 24/03/2010 01:35:25 GMT Standard Time,  
uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com writes:

WLM,1330
 
i do not have photos but i used a splitter at the block.
I got it at ESM.Here is the part.
_http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=acc
203&osCsid=8de6636e246a53fb6d1179eaa1b8093a_ 
(http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=acc203&osCsid=8de6636e246a53fb6d11
79eaa1b8093a) 
 
I did not know there was any other way. How was yours done?
My wire & copper tube runs from the engine.
 
Vigil

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pressure  gauge & oil pressure warning light (not 
oil filter due change  light
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010,  3:54 PM



Hi list,

Anyone with an oil pressure guage  and and oil pressure warning light on  
their Spridget?   I do have both on my car but plan on changing the way 
I've   
done this.  Photos of how you've done this off list to me  please.

Thanks

Weslake-Monza  1330

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 10:43:40 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:43:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <1e40c.71b90a59.38dba6e2@aol.com>
References: <1e40c.71b90a59.38dba6e2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003241043i5b59a2a1t15d37d9c440117ca@mail.gmail.com>

> There are short and long wedges.

Not over here. Care to ship some long wedges over?
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 10:47:15 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:47:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <402188521003241043i5b59a2a1t15d37d9c440117ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1e40c.71b90a59.38dba6e2@aol.com>
	<402188521003241043i5b59a2a1t15d37d9c440117ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003241047m7cb07107td02034f2e83dbf14@mail.gmail.com>

>> There are short and long wedges.

> Not over here. Care to ship some long wedges over?

Or even give us a UK vendor with decent service and a willingness to
ship overseas and take Paypal (better exchange rates than credit
cards), together with some part numbers.
Maybe you could buy them and sell them to us via ebay...
David L

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Mar 24 12:30:29 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:30:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <d49b03131003240657j7e7bc5f9t5c5b02f0d60194a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2>
	<31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN>
	<DD9020064D1B4CF59DB4A35D283BE7E7@blackbox2>
	<E1A627E50DD24550A90145D7F463389C@MAIN>
	<d49b03131003240657j7e7bc5f9t5c5b02f0d60194a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BAA6855.3030904@justbrits.com>

<< Here, read what Redline says about MT-90 and synchros,
gears and coefficient of friction, etc. >>

 From the Healeys List Archives is another
EXCELLENT article, folks.

http://subarustore.stores.yahoo.net/redmtmantran.html


Ed

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 13:03:07 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:03:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003241303m655674a7ic0f93e82f1ff74d2@mail.gmail.com>

I just (for the second time) due to having too long of a rod on my slave cyl
had to pull the engine and gear box.  It is up and running again and working
great.

Anyhow.  I noticed that as the Rib Case gear box (and no doubt the Smooth
Case as well) is set up for right or left hand drive . .  there is a rubber
type cover over the other side of the bell housing.  This would be employed
for the clutch fork if the car was a right hand drive.

It looks to me that I should be able to pull the rubber cover off and get a
look at how the throw out bearing is interacting with the clutch springs.  .
if I wanted to double check the play on the clutch?

When I had the engine and gear box out, I was able to look in through the
top inspection hole (oval shaped) and push the fork towards the clutch
springs to make sure that I had enough play in there. . ie. that the throw
out bearing is not riding on the clutch springs as it was before, when not
in use.

Anyhow. .  I wonder if you might be able to shine a flash light through the
other opening, ie. the one mentioned that is covered if the car were to be
set up for right hand drive and see what is going on?  And then push the
fork into the clutch springs too see what is happening (before having to
pull the lump).

I am not sure that this is a working method as I have not tried it yet. .
So I am submitting this to the list for others to input and correct me if I
am wrong.

Kirk
59 1275

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Mar 24 13:19:14 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Said before, but worth repeating. . .
In-Reply-To: <87d2rg$89goek@email.mtu.edu>
References: <87d2rg$89goek@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <E66AE472-3964-4CE3-9FB0-045202B4A462@comcast.net>

...and ???


Lester


On Mar 24, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Tim Collins wrote:

> The following story comes from my local newspaper. Be careful guys &  
> gals!
>
>   "Midland County Sheriff Jerry Nielsen said a gentleman was working  
> on a vehicle in the garage and the repair job required him to remove  
> the gas tank. Some gasoline was spilled from the tank in the  
> process, and the report states a drop light ignited the gasoline  
> fumes, causing an explosion."
>
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/  
> _______________________________________________
>
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 13:43:44 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:43:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks For the Help
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003241343mdeff01dhe2f5baa18c662330@mail.gmail.com>

Frank,


Thanks for the correct measurement on the rod extending from the slave cyl.
Mine was too long.  . I ground it back with a chamfer and the car is running
perfect.  All the gears are shifting right on and it is
once again a blast to drive.  It looks like this solved the problem (as I
could check when the gear box was out through the top hole that the throwout
bearing is OFF the spines when not in use).  I also run a spring out board
of the slave cyl to ensure that the throwout bearing is pulled back off the
splines at all times when not in use.

Appreciate the help!

Kirk

PS

Working all day out of my home shop restoring guitars is now harder to do,
to stay focused, as all I want to do is find excuses to drive the Sprite.
The car feels faster to me now that it is working correctly.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Mar 24 13:45:06 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:45:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Said before, but worth repeating. . .
In-Reply-To: <E66AE472-3964-4CE3-9FB0-045202B4A462@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <183596.59756.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

"and?"

and thus the herd was thinned once again......

jay

--- On Wed, 3/24/10, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
...and ???


Lester


On Mar 24, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Tim Collins wrote:

> The following story comes from my local newspaper. Be careful guys & gals!
>
>   "Midland County Sheriff Jerry Nielsen said a gentleman was working on a
vehicle in the garage and the repair job required him to remove the gas tank.
Some gasoline was spilled from the tank in the process, and the report states
a drop light ignited the gasoline fumes, causing an explosion."
>
>
> Tim Collins

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Mar 24 14:00:29 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:00:29 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
Message-ID: <2ddde.254d1eac.38dbd76d@aol.com>

Having just hunted for them in the garage it's possible I don't have any at 
 all and have thrown out the ones I had (my Sprite has 8" Wolseley drums 
and  doesn't need wedges).
 
Some Mini wedges are part number: 17H618 and the Spridget part number is  
the same.
 
I do know that I once had short and long wedges and discovered this after  
changing the centre pin on the brake backplates.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 24/03/2010 17:47:16 GMT Standard Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

>>  There are short and long wedges.

> Not over here. Care to ship some  long wedges over?

Or even give us a UK vendor with decent service and a  willingness to
ship overseas and take Paypal (better exchange rates than  credit
cards), together with some part numbers.
Maybe you could buy them  and sell them to us via ebay...
David L

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Mar 24 14:02:42 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:02:42 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pressure gauge & oil pressure warning light
 (not oil filt...
Message-ID: <2e049.697cd1b9.38dbd7f2@aol.com>

Maybe on your car but not on mine because I specifically fitted a pressure  
sensor that activates at 20psi and so when the oil pressure drops below 
20psi  this light comes on.  
 
In fact the subject heading for this thread would have indicated this had  
it not been too long.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 24/03/2010 20:43:43 GMT Standard Time, lindlaw at yahoo.com 
 writes:

The  light merely tells you when the bypass is operational (time to change 
the  filer).  Not an idiot light as such.
Ed in SD

---  On Tue, 3/23/10, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>  
wrote:

> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Oil pressure  gauge & oil pressure warning light 
(not oil filter due change  light
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tuesday, March 23,  2010, 3:54 PM
> Hi list,
>  
> Anyone with an oil  pressure guage and and oil pressure
> warning light on  
>  their Spridget?  I do have both on my car but plan on
> changing  the way I've  
> done this.  Photos of how you've done this  off list to
> me please.
>  
> Thanks
>   
> Weslake-Monza 1330

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 14:26:50 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:26:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003241303m655674a7ic0f93e82f1ff74d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d41003241303m655674a7ic0f93e82f1ff74d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003241426j1006691dk787fa895a5d615d2@mail.gmail.com>

Kirk,

When my clutch went several years ago I tried something similar to what you
are suggesting when I reassembled.  Just for the Halibut.  What I discovered
was that it takes way more force than you can muster to actuate the clutch
by pushing on the fork!!  At least that sure was the case for me.  I don't
know how much hydraulic pressure the slave generates when the system is
assembled, but it is sure way more than you can do by hand!

Cheers!!
Jim


On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Kirk Hargreaves
<khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I just (for the second time) due to having too long of a rod on my slave
> cyl
> had to pull the engine and gear box.  It is up and running again and
> working
> great.
>
> Anyhow.  I noticed that as the Rib Case gear box (and no doubt the Smooth
> Case as well) is set up for right or left hand drive . .  there is a rubber
> type cover over the other side of the bell housing.  This would be employed
> for the clutch fork if the car was a right hand drive.
>
> It looks to me that I should be able to pull the rubber cover off and get a
> look at how the throw out bearing is interacting with the clutch springs.
>  .
> if I wanted to double check the play on the clutch?
>
> When I had the engine and gear box out, I was able to look in through the
> top inspection hole (oval shaped) and push the fork towards the clutch
> springs to make sure that I had enough play in there. . ie. that the throw
> out bearing is not riding on the clutch springs as it was before, when not
> in use.
>
> Anyhow. .  I wonder if you might be able to shine a flash light through the
> other opening, ie. the one mentioned that is covered if the car were to be
> set up for right hand drive and see what is going on?  And then push the
> fork into the clutch springs too see what is happening (before having to
> pull the lump).
>
> I am not sure that this is a working method as I have not tried it yet. .
> So I am submitting this to the list for others to input and correct me if I
> am wrong.
>
> Kirk
> 59 1275
> _______________________________________________
>
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>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 14:41:15 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:41:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Said before, but worth repeating. . .
In-Reply-To: <183596.59756.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <E66AE472-3964-4CE3-9FB0-045202B4A462@comcast.net>
	<183596.59756.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003241441l342bbadar6993dcd085f90226@mail.gmail.com>

Darwin's Theory proven once again...   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Jay <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> "and?"
>
> and thus the herd was thinned once again......
>
> jay
>
> --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
> ...and ???
>
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Mar 24, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
>
> > The following story comes from my local newspaper. Be careful guys &
> gals!
> >
> >   "Midland County Sheriff Jerry Nielsen said a gentleman was working on a
> vehicle in the garage and the repair job required him to remove the gas
> tank.
> Some gasoline was spilled from the tank in the process, and the report
> states
> a drop light ignited the gasoline fumes, causing an explosion."
> >
> >
> > Tim Collins
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 24 16:33:14 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 16:33:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Toy with link
In-Reply-To: <03A19CDF-DFDD-4061-AEF5-4CB6E68B955D@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <175787.49535.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Except for that thing where the stick shift is supposed to be, I like it.

---
On Wed, 3/24/10, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:

> From:
Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] New Toy with
link
> To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Wednesday, March 24,
2010, 11:09 AM
> http://tinyurl.com/y9jt58k
>
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 16:48:07 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:48:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't always the  SU's
Message-ID: <e98d88091003241648l4735007aja9f346ad3cd83c40@mail.gmail.com>

I am posting this, because of a comment not long ago, about hating the SU's.

The 68 was needing LOTS of choke, for about 5 miles or so, before it would
run without it. It was also gutless on acceleration at all times, and would
lose speed on hills with any significant incline. I had not touched the
carbs since getting them back from Joe Curto, and tuning them out prior to
LotO back in '08. Two years without having to touch them is great, in my
opinion.
So I decide it is time to set them again. I pulled the rocker cover. I
needed to replace the gasket, and I was glad I had put my spare one over an
old rocker cover out in the parts shed. I didn't have to fight with an
"hourglass" shaped gasket, like they look fresh out of the package. My
rockers were a bit loose, but nothing to serious. I went to remove the air
cleaners, and that is when I found the REAL problem. While loosening the air
cleaner bolts, the entire carb assembly was moving. I pulled the covers,
carbs, and heat shield. The brass nuts holding the intake/exhaust were
loose. One so loose, I was fortunate I didn't lose it while driving.
There is a Texas Turd Floater rushing in, so I just tightened the nuts, and
put it all back together again. Now the car will idle cold, without choke.
I have not taken it for a spin, as I found that my throttle cable was 4
strands from breaking. I have the cable out, and will take it to the bike
shop tomorrow. I want to see if I can get a high quality cable, and a
colored sheath that is Teflon (or something similar) lined, to hopefully
give me a longer life on my accelerator cable.
If anyone is interested in what I find, and the cost, hit me off-list.
SO, the reason for the post is, if you are having trouble, DO NOT just blame
the SU's right off the bat. There are so many things that can go awry on
these little cars, look at ALL the possibilities, before settling on the
blame.
I forget who it was that was hating their SU's. If you will email me
off-list, I would be glad to walk you through your setting them. If you have
a bluetooth headset, it would be easier on you. This isn't rocket science,
it's more like repetition. I tuned the 65's carbs yesterday in about 15 - 20
minutes, and it idles SWEET. Don't give up, just ask for some help.

Brad
-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Mar 24 16:58:16 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:58:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <9DFF88FF8E75444CB4BEEC696D6A88FD@Home>
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
	<1A152B714A9F42748F037CEF655E46A4@user8634b3d69b>
	<416619498743329804@unknownmsgid>
	<B0840FB8E1774A5C803CB9D7E44EED9C@user8634b3d69b>
	<9DFF88FF8E75444CB4BEEC696D6A88FD@Home>
Message-ID: <4BAAA718.5040209@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
>> Should we be asking suppliers to measure the brake shoes to see what
>> variations there are within them?
>
> This only works if we ALL simply send them back and demand the proper 
> product.  Or we stop buying from them and tell them why.
>
That still doesn't work, nor does telling Sum Dum Fuk that his parts are 
junk.
Asking for sum dum fuk so I can rip him a new one with the useless part 
doesn't work either.
Writing to corporate America who subs out the name brand stuff to sum 
dum fuk doesn't work.
Telling everybody, their brother, friends, and relatives still doesn't work.
Taking stuff back for the simple reason that it was made in china and 
telling the return person that you want one of better quality doesn't work.
So I just do not consume anymore.
Oh I do buy auto parts from known suppliers, auto body supplies, lumber, 
etc but I still get stuck with chinese nails, screws, valves, and they 
are all junk.
So the plumber takes back the year old valve and makes the supplier make 
good on his labor and the damage from the leak, you would think after a 
1/2 dozen defective valves, they would look into the quality? Nope, sum 
dum fuk's brother in law makes em and the repair to fix the damage must 
still be cheaper than making a quality valve.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Mar 24 17:06:48 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:06:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2>
	<31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN>
	<DD9020064D1B4CF59DB4A35D283BE7E7@blackbox2>
	<E1A627E50DD24550A90145D7F463389C@MAIN>
	<d49b03131003240657j7e7bc5f9t5c5b02f0d60194a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6CB3545660534003AD91443835ED451B@blackbox2>

Yep, read that, did the big search on the web.
Even spoke with my friend who has been running an auto parts store for over 40 years.

Conclusion.  I could switch the oil out again to something else but it most likely
will still be notchy.

I'm going to leave the Mobil 1 gear oil in there and play wait an see.
My hope is it will improve with use.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box


Here, read what Redline says about MT-90 and synchros, gears and coefficient of friction, etc. 
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46&pcid=7
Mike MacLean

From pilotrob at msn.com  Wed Mar 24 17:08:49 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:08:49 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Poor acceleration,
 and needing lots of  choke, isn't always the SU's
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds11E2ACD204E15EC27955CFD4240@phx.gbl>

If you can't find it elsewhere Bradman, I have in the past purchased a teflon lined cable from either APT or MiniMania. Can't recall which 'cause it was so long ago.

Glad you apparently found your 
"performance" problem, mate. :)

CB

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 17:12:44 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:12:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Poor acceleration,
 and needing lots of  choke, isn't always the SU's
In-Reply-To: <SNT135-ds11E2ACD204E15EC27955CFD4240@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT135-ds11E2ACD204E15EC27955CFD4240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003241712p2fa26abfk547d42e04ab69876@mail.gmail.com>

My post wasn't intended to put myself out for "Ed-like" comments... <BG>
I just wanted to let folks know that the SU is NOT your enemy.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob at msn.com> wrote:

>
>
> Glad you apparently found your
> "performance" problem, mate. :)
>
> CB
>
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Wed Mar 24 17:24:30 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:24:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: ogeye Club..... News from Blighty]
In-Reply-To: <4BA3D9F7.2060903@justbrits.com>
References: <4BA3D9F7.2060903@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <5D731DD1-32A2-4A1E-94C2-9DC178555A59@phillymgclub.com>

Far more interesting article on the side frame

http://tinyurl.com/yaxsegm

anon

On Mar 19, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Shop at Just Brits wrote:

> From the Bugeye List !!! Nice <G> !!! Who is gonna
> be FIRST to get one ???
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
> Here's a little newsie-news item that some might enjoy:
>
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1259137/McLaren-takes-Ferrari-
affordable-green-supercar-dubbed-F1-car-road.html#ixzz0idqVBoeS
<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1259137/McLaren-takes-Ferrari
-affordable-green-supercar-dubbed-F1-car-road.html#ixzz0idqVBoeS>
>
> The article measures the engine output by the number of Ford Fiesta that
represents. I wonder how many bugeye sprite equivalents that translates to?
Let's see, 600 divided by 43...
>
> George in Maryland

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Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
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the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened.
But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Wed Mar 24 18:03:12 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:03:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] If you have NOT........
In-Reply-To: <4BA93398.7070107@justbrits.com>
References: <4BA93398.7070107@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <D551CDA8-E0D1-45E9-BCB0-56A979E896DE@phillymgclub.com>

And I thought going on the BABE was nuts. THis is a whole 'nudder case of nuts
entirely!!

Great story!!

Larry

On Mar 23, 2010, at 5:33 PM, Shop at Just Brits wrote:

> seen or read this, it's just UN-REAL <VBG>!!!!!
>
>
>
> How A $500 Craigslist Car Beat $400K Rally Racers
>
<http://jalopnik.com/5497042/how-a-500-craigslist-car-beat-400k-rally-racers>
>
>
> or
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/yf5dmyz
> *
> or
>
> http://jalopnik.com/5497042/how-a-500-craigslist-car-beat-400k-rally-racers
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you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From pilotrob at msn.com  Wed Mar 24 18:05:23 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:05:23 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Poor acceleration,
 and needing lots of  choke, isn't always the SU's
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds61DA1A28861A61830CEE6D4240@phx.gbl>

Yep...

all a matter of getting into the principles
of "constant depresson/variable choke"
carbs. which by design are very "street" user-friendly over the service life of the motor.

I hated SU's at first but, once you take the time and make the effort to get to know them..... :)::)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fornal
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 8:12 PM
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
Cc: Spridget list
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke, 	isn't always the SU's

My post wasn't intended to put myself out for "Ed-like" comments... <BG>
I just wanted to let folks know that the SU is NOT your enemy.

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob at msn.com> wrote:

>
>
> Glad you apparently found your
> "performance" problem, mate. :)
>
> CB
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 24 18:07:27 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <4BAAA718.5040209@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <387303.26490.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Frank,
You saw the movie last night. Every one of the 14,000 part numbers we
make each year was sent to China for bid, and we beat them on every one by
selling the value of having it made here.

Buy an airplane and we'll hook you
up.

Ron

--- On Wed, 3/24/10, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> From:
Frank <spritenut at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster
wedge
> To: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
> Cc:
spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 6:58 PM
> Michael
Rowe wrote:
> >> Should we be asking suppliers to measure the brake
> shoes to
see what
> >> variations there are within them?
> > 
> > This only works if we
ALL simply send them back and
> demand the proper product.  Or we stop buying
from them
> and tell them why.
> > 
> That still doesn't work, nor does
telling Sum Dum Fuk that
> his parts are junk.
> Asking for sum dum fuk so I
can rip him a new one with the
> useless part doesn't work either.
> Writing
to corporate America who subs out the name brand
> stuff to sum dum fuk
doesn't work.
> Telling everybody, their brother, friends, and relatives
>
still doesn't work.
> Taking stuff back for the simple reason that it was made
in
> china and telling the return person that you want one of
> better quality
doesn't work.
> So I just do not consume anymore.
> Oh I do buy auto parts
from known suppliers, auto body
> supplies, lumber, etc but I still get stuck
with chinese
> nails, screws, valves, and they are all junk.
> So the plumber
takes back the year old valve and makes the
> supplier make good on his labor
and the damage from the
> leak, you would think after a 1/2 dozen defective
valves,
> they would look into the quality? Nope, sum dum fuk's
> brother in
law makes em and the repair to fix the damage
> must still be cheaper than
making a quality valve.
> 
> -- Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet
of Sprites
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From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Mar 24 18:08:45 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:08:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Toy with link
In-Reply-To: <175787.49535.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <175787.49535.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0931369B-52D8-4E0B-8DE6-7B275EB4D2D6@ado13.com>

Until I get my knee replaced I save manual tranny activity to the Sprites and
the 911. This is going to be my daily driver so will take a load off my knee.


On Mar 24, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Ron Soave wrote:

> Except for that thing where the stick shift is supposed to be, I like it.
>
> --- On Wed, 3/24/10, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Wed Mar 24 18:50:54 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:50:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge
In-Reply-To: <402188521003241043i5b59a2a1t15d37d9c440117ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1e40c.71b90a59.38dba6e2@aol.com>
	<402188521003241043i5b59a2a1t15d37d9c440117ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1C3575F5-12C9-455D-A475-8C6DE5531F88@phillymgclub.com>

Like a gross or 2??

Larry

On Mar 24, 2010, at 1:43 PM, David Lieb wrote:

>> There are short and long wedges.
>
> Not over here. Care to ship some long wedges over?
> David L
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screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Mar 24 19:32:57 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:32:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Toy with link
In-Reply-To: <0931369B-52D8-4E0B-8DE6-7B275EB4D2D6@ado13.com>
References: <175787.49535.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<0931369B-52D8-4E0B-8DE6-7B275EB4D2D6@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <4BAACB59.90303@justbrits.com>

<< ...manual tranny activity to the Sprites... >>

One (busy) foot + 3 pedals = stick shift !!!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Mar 24 19:54:56 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 21:54:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] If you have NOT........
In-Reply-To: <D551CDA8-E0D1-45E9-BCB0-56A979E896DE@phillymgclub.com>
References: <4BA93398.7070107@justbrits.com>
	<D551CDA8-E0D1-45E9-BCB0-56A979E896DE@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <4BAAD080.3040307@justbrits.com>

<< And I thought going on the BABE was nuts. >>

I was WONDERING [and WAITING] WHEN
somebody would make just that 'comment', Larry !!

LOL, 'cause that was my very thought !!!!

From davriker at nwi.net  Wed Mar 24 20:51:22 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:51:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2>
	<31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN>
	<DD9020064D1B4CF59DB4A35D283BE7E7@blackbox2>
	<E1A627E50DD24550A90145D7F463389C@MAIN>
	<d49b03131003240657j7e7bc5f9t5c5b02f0d60194a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FFF9EF1B22AC4238A304D6B2CE8ACE2A@MAIN>

I recognize the bottle.  That's the stuff I have in my Datsun gearbox.  MT-90.
Same crunch in 2nd until it warms up.

Dave R.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com
  To: David Riker
  Cc: Dean Hedin ; spridgets at autox.team.net
  Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 6:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box


  Here, read what Redline says about MT-90 and synchros, gears and coefficient
of friction, etc. http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=46&pcid=7
  Mike MacLean


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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Mar 25 07:04:11 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:04:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks For the Help CLUTCH
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d41003241343mdeff01dhe2f5baa18c662330@mail.gmail.com
  >
References: <37dc82d41003241343mdeff01dhe2f5baa18c662330@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201003250604882.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 03:43 PM 3/24/2010, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
>Frank,
>Thanks for the correct measurement on the rod extending from the slave cyl.
>Mine was too long.  . I ground it back with a chamfer and the car is running
>perfect.  All the gears are shifting right on and it is
>once again a blast to drive.  It looks like this solved the problem (as I
>could check when the gear box was out through the top hole that the throwout
>bearing is OFF the spines when not in use).  I also run a spring out board
>of the slave cyl to ensure that the throwout bearing is pulled back off the
>splines at all times when not in use.
-------------------
Kirk,
         I'm glad the clutch is working.
         The addition of the spring bothers me, though.
         The engineering choice of return spring, or no return spring 
in the design of clutch systems is based on whether the engineer 
wants an adjustable slave pushrod. Most BMC cars chose to dispense 
with adjustable pushrods in the 50s.
         If spring, then adjustment. No spring, no adjustment.
         As Jim alluded, you may experience not enough release as 
there may not be enough volume displaced to move the slave piston fully.
         The system is intended to be self-adjusting for wear of the 
bearing face and the disc friction. The bearing should barely touch 
the pressure plate thus requiring little movement of the slave piston 
before engagement.
         It may be counter-intuitive, but the more the friction 
material on the disc wears, the taller the pressure plate thrust 
collar becomes, relative to the flywheel. (The thrust collar moves 
toward the transmission with wear.) (Thinner disc, taller pressure plate)

         Despite your current success, I'm recommending removing the spring.

Peter C 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Mar 25 07:51:43 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:51:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 4X4 MG MIDGET - $4500 (sharon)
Message-ID: <867FCDE1ED0B4877B4FC01B5E74E2ABC@Home>

Be the first in your neighborhood to have one.

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/1658168600.html

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 25 07:51:45 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:51:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Flying Miata's and Vettes
In-Reply-To: <402188521003240655v7348c28bh6f3b3ef7bf39cd45@mail.gmail.com>
References: <412F4FC67824441099AE58FA3EAA30A7@blackbox2>,
	<105266.37982.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<402188521003231924y39bf8371if8c2291bece5ef6f@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BAY145-w64A3EA71A449956C128D1AC2250@phx.gbl>,
	<402188521003240655v7348c28bh6f3b3ef7bf39cd45@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w10D9C260C60AE276B69391C2240@phx.gbl>

> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> > How is it that a 435hp 378 cu in LS3 in a new Vette can get 28mpg hwy,
> > yet a 300hp 2 liter EVO or 2.5 liter WRX STi can only get 23-25 hwy???
> > They're small engines, but they can't need boost to maintain hwy speeds,
can
> > they?
>
> One reason might be that people needed the Vette to make decent MPG in
> order to convince SWMBO to let them buy it,

Highly doubt it,

 therefore GM put a lot of effort into that 6th gear being very tall and the
engine management
> willing to optimize for that.

GM LOVES that they don't have to add a gas guzzler tax to it...


OTOH, NO ONE buys an STi for the
> mileage, they buy it for the crazy factor ;-) Subaru is probably proud
> of the mileage it doesn't get. Take a look at the demographics of the
> purchasers...
> David L

True, but I bet all those Gen Y and Z'ers would like it if it got better
mileage,
would save em some more money to buy more speed and bling parts with!!

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 25 07:57:46 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:57:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <390678.89242.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY145-w23AA6F6182C6D6A2AB2CCC2250@phx.gbl>,
	<390678.89242.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w28D330EED596DA19A2CF75C2240@phx.gbl>

What a great friend you have! LOL
I do the same for some people in the parking lot when
I leave work. I have different mufflers than stock,
Ford Racing Bullet's, made by Borla, sound incredible at WOT,
from inside the car, friends have told me it sounds awesome when I drive away
from them.
I haven't heard them from behind it,
haven't trusted anyone enough to drive it away so I can hear them. ;-0.
I'm afraid they won't come back with it.....

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:37:37 -0700
> From: soavero at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net; bugeye15 at hotmail.com
>
> My friend who's got the Roush has a special parking space right outside my
office window. Every day when he leaves he romps the throttle for my benefit.
It sounds amazing.
>
> --- On Wed, 3/24/10, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > As one who is partially on the darkside....:-)
> > I have a 2006 GT convertible, oonly 300hp, regular gas,
> >  but has surprised many cars that should be faster.
> > LOVE it!. Pretty fast, for me, very fast to others,
> > I think you should definitely go for it!!!!!
> > The only thing you'll regret is spending more money on your
>
>
>
>

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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 08:03:45 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:03:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Flying Miata's and Vettes
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w10D9C260C60AE276B69391C2240@phx.gbl>
References: <412F4FC67824441099AE58FA3EAA30A7@blackbox2>
	<105266.37982.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188521003231924y39bf8371if8c2291bece5ef6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY145-w64A3EA71A449956C128D1AC2250@phx.gbl>
	<402188521003240655v7348c28bh6f3b3ef7bf39cd45@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY145-w10D9C260C60AE276B69391C2240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188521003250803w297abae4q9e08f70d85ca41f9@mail.gmail.com>

> True, but I bet all those Gen Y and Z'ers would like it if it got better
> mileage,
> would save em some more money to buy more speed and bling parts with!!

Secretly they would, but they would then feel that the performance
must have been compromised and would then buy the EVO instead, BECAUSE
it got worse mileage.
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Mar 25 08:13:09 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:13:09 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Guns - Broads - Wheels
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W37ED9DA3CF210472A64FAEB8240@phx.gbl>
References: <ff59076c1003242033k6713ba7cs8dace870806af65c@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BAY112-W37ED9DA3CF210472A64FAEB8240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W14C8345B8D2166035A1095B8240@phx.gbl>

They should change the title because they have been seen now.  ;)


Can anyone identify the model of that pistol? I'm pretty sure that it's not a
not a Python or Diamondback, but I don't know what it is.

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> Need I say more?
http://www.life.com/image/ugc1034972/in-gallery/41172/steve-mcqueen-20-never-
seen-photos

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Mar 25 10:38:44 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:38:44 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't always th...
Message-ID: <6633f.2c17670f.38dcf9a4@aol.com>

It shouldn't be necessary BUT you could always drill the corner of the nuts 
 and lock wire them.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 25/03/2010 00:11:41 GMT Standard Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

The  brass nuts holding the intake/exhaust were
loose. 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Mar 25 10:40:08 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:40:08 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
Message-ID: <664da.7d966a01.38dcf9f8@aol.com>

Mobil 1 isn't gear oil it's engine oil.  Synthetic gear oil from Mobil  is 
usually Mobil SHC.
 
 
In a message dated 25/03/2010 00:26:41 GMT Standard Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

Mobil 1  gear oil 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 10:55:02 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:55:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <664da.7d966a01.38dcf9f8@aol.com>
References: <664da.7d966a01.38dcf9f8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <402188521003251055h199282d4x8060decb943677dd@mail.gmail.com>

> Mobil 1 isn't gear oil it's engine oil.  Synthetic gear oil from Mobil  is
> usually Mobil SHC.

Hmm, Mobil's website does not appear to agree with you
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Fully_Syn
thetic_Gear_Lube_75W-90LS.aspx
David L

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 10:57:30 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:57:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't  always th...
In-Reply-To: <6633f.2c17670f.38dcf9a4@aol.com>
References: <6633f.2c17670f.38dcf9a4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003251057n5efbd725t47644d30be937e34@mail.gmail.com>

Should it happen again, I just may do that.
Thank you for the suggestion!

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:38 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

>  It shouldn't be necessary BUT you could always drill the corner of the
> nuts and lock wire them.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
>
> In a message dated 25/03/2010 00:11:41 GMT Standard Time,
> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:
>
> The brass nuts holding the intake/exhaust were
> loose.
>
>
>



-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Mar 25 11:24:18 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:24:18 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
Message-ID: <69ed1.78e32aeb.38dd0452@aol.com>

I like to do something similar for my neighbours on a Saturday summer  
morning when they are sleeping with the windows open in their houses and I have  
to leave at 0600 to get to Silverstone for scrutineering a race meeting.   
No-one has thanked me for this yet.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330 and a very non-standard exhaust note + DCOE induction  
roar
 
In a message dated 25/03/2010 15:18:08 GMT Standard Time,  
bugeye15 at hotmail.com writes:

My  friend who's got the Roush has a special parking space right outside  my
office window. Every day when he leaves he romps the throttle for my  
benefit.
It sounds amazing.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Mar 25 11:25:42 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:25:42 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't  always t...
Message-ID: <6a06e.5f4acf15.38dd04a6@aol.com>

It shouldn't be necessary but I do have a little drilling jig for drilling  
the corners of nuts, brass is nice and soft to drill and I do have some  
spare nuts.
 
In a message dated 25/03/2010 17:57:31 GMT Standard Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

Should  it happen again, I just may do that.
Thank you for the  suggestion!

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Mar 25 11:27:47 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:27:47 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
Message-ID: <6a2c9.2efeb5df.38dd0523@aol.com>

In England I am right!  Of course I can't even get any Mobil gear oil  so I 
might be wrong in England too.  The last time I did see and use Mobil  gear 
oil it didn't mention 1 on it .....
 
Humbly corrected
 
In a message dated 25/03/2010 18:10:54 GMT Standard Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

>  Mobil 1 isn't gear oil it's engine oil.  Synthetic gear oil from  Mobil  
is
> usually Mobil SHC.

Hmm, Mobil's website does not  appear to agree with  you
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Fully_Sy
n
thetic_Gear_Lube_75W-90LS.aspx
David  L

From jmj3351 at comcast.net  Thu Mar 25 11:36:29 2010
From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:36:29 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Guns - Broads - Wheels
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W14C8345B8D2166035A1095B8240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2077735207.20818781269542189807.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Dan Wesson
----- Original Message -----
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 11:13:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Guns - Broads - Wheels

They should change the title because they have been seen now. B ;)


Can anyone identify the model of that pistol? I'm pretty sure that it's not a
not a Python or Diamondback, but I don't know what it is.

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> Need I say more?
http://www.life.com/image/ugc1034972/in-gallery/41172/steve-mcqueen-20-never-
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 11:39:00 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:39:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
In-Reply-To: <6a2c9.2efeb5df.38dd0523@aol.com>
References: <6a2c9.2efeb5df.38dd0523@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4628617277448803844@unknownmsgid>

It is all about marketing and name recognition, right?
David L

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 11:39:37 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:39:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Redline
Message-ID: <37dc82d41003251139k4b81b526h3d9d850cd39355ed@mail.gmail.com>

Even Redline mentions the "too slippery factor" regarding gear oils.  Just
underlines what everyone has been saying.  Thought that was interesting.

Kirk

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 11:53:34 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:53:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
Message-ID: <e98d88091003251153u55ac4a78q44164341a769cf3@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.life.com/image/72402593/in-gallery/23056/in-praise-of-cars-with-real-curves

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Mar 25 11:55:30 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:55:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks For the Help CLUTCH
In-Reply-To: <201003250604882.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <37dc82d41003241343mdeff01dhe2f5baa18c662330@mail.gmail.com>
	<201003250604882.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <20100325105571.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

An update..... off list I've been "talking" with Kirk.

The spring he is using is very, very light... too light to compress 
the internal slave spring, and so, in my opinion, would have no 
deleterious effect on the clutch mechanism... it would be akin to an 
anti-rattle spring the way he described it to me.

         Peter C
====
At 09:04 AM 3/25/2010, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>At 03:43 PM 3/24/2010, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
>>Frank,
>>Thanks for the correct measurement on the rod extending from the slave cyl.
>>Mine was too long.  . I ground it back with a chamfer and the car is running
>>perfect.  All the gears are shifting right on and it is
>>once again a blast to drive.  It looks like this solved the problem (as I
>>could check when the gear box was out through the top hole that the throwout
>>bearing is OFF the spines when not in use).  I also run a spring out board
>>of the slave cyl to ensure that the throwout bearing is pulled back off the
>>splines at all times when not in use.
>-------------------
>Kirk,
>         I'm glad the clutch is working.
>         The addition of the spring bothers me, though.
>         The engineering choice of return spring, or no return 
> spring in the design of clutch systems is based on whether the 
> engineer wants an adjustable slave pushrod. Most BMC cars chose to 
> dispense with adjustable pushrods in the 50s.
>         If spring, then adjustment. No spring, no adjustment.
>         As Jim alluded, you may experience not enough release as 
> there may not be enough volume displaced to move the slave piston fully.
>         The system is intended to be self-adjusting for wear of the 
> bearing face and the disc friction. The bearing should barely touch 
> the pressure plate thus requiring little movement of the slave 
> piston before engagement.
>         It may be counter-intuitive, but the more the friction 
> material on the disc wears, the taller the pressure plate thrust 
> collar becomes, relative to the flywheel. (The thrust collar moves 
> toward the transmission with wear.) (Thinner disc, taller pressure plate)
>
>         Despite your current success, I'm recommending removing the spring.
>
>Peter C _______________________________________________

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Mar 25 11:59:00 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:59:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't  always t...
In-Reply-To: <6a06e.5f4acf15.38dd04a6@aol.com>
References: <6a06e.5f4acf15.38dd04a6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4A0547B8-86E7-4939-9164-015DE953812B@comcast.net>

Where do you find that jig?  Mine is set for drilling through bolt  
heads only..

Lester


On Mar 25, 2010, at 1:25 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> It shouldn't be necessary but I do have a little drilling jig for  
> drilling
> the corners of nuts, brass is nice and soft to drill and I do have  
> some
> spare nuts.
>
> In a message dated 25/03/2010 17:57:31 GMT Standard Time,
> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:
>
> Should  it happen again, I just may do that.
> Thank you for the  suggestion!
> _______________________________________________
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 12:32:38 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:32:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't  always t...
In-Reply-To: <4A0547B8-86E7-4939-9164-015DE953812B@comcast.net>
References: <6a06e.5f4acf15.38dd04a6@aol.com>
	<4A0547B8-86E7-4939-9164-015DE953812B@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8981766255279669277@unknownmsgid>

PegasusAutoRacing.Com
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=5738
David L

On Mar 25, 2010, at 13:59, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Where do you find that jig?  Mine is set for drilling through bolt
> heads only..
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 1:25 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> It shouldn't be necessary but I do have a little drilling jig for
>> drilling
>> the corners of nuts, brass is nice and soft to drill and I do have
>> some
>> spare nuts.
>>
>> In a message dated 25/03/2010 17:57:31 GMT Standard Time,
>> tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> Should  it happen again, I just may do that.
>> Thank you for the  suggestion!
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From biffjones at verizon.net  Thu Mar 25 12:22:23 2010
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:22:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Guns - Broads - Wheels
References: <ff59076c1003242033k6713ba7cs8dace870806af65c@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BAY112-W37ED9DA3CF210472A64FAEB8240@phx.gbl>
	<BAY112-W14C8345B8D2166035A1095B8240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4541F05B6F6F49E287A6908E4E0C1EB6@dell1>

Robert,

Looks like a H&R model 939, made from 1958 to 1986.

Biff


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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Mar 25 12:36:25 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:36:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't  always t...
In-Reply-To: <8981766255279669277@unknownmsgid>
References: <6a06e.5f4acf15.38dd04a6@aol.com>
	<4A0547B8-86E7-4939-9164-015DE953812B@comcast.net>
	<8981766255279669277@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <D4848AD5-C4DC-4C92-8A32-1ADDF27678DA@comcast.net>

Thank you Sir!

Lester

On Mar 25, 2010, at 2:32 PM, David Lieb wrote:

> PegasusAutoRacing.Com
> http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=5738
> David L
>
> On Mar 25, 2010, at 13:59, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Where do you find that jig?  Mine is set for drilling through bolt
>> heads only..
>>
>> Lester

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 25 12:43:45 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:43:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
In-Reply-To: <e98d88091003251153u55ac4a78q44164341a769cf3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88091003251153u55ac4a78q44164341a769cf3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <100207.15988.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Try to get yourself to Nashville someday and go through the Lane Motor Museum. THEN you'll know what small cars look like... Peel, Bond, Gogomobile, etc.

David Booker
Long Island

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Mar 25 13:20:07 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:20:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
In-Reply-To: <100207.15988.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <e98d88091003251153u55ac4a78q44164341a769cf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<100207.15988.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F319E958B3624AC686A04CB6743DC373@spider>

http://www.lanemotormuseum.org/Cars/

================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 12:44 PM
To: Brad Fornal; Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small

Try to get yourself to Nashville someday and go through the Lane Motor
Museum. THEN you'll know what small cars look like... Peel, Bond,
Gogomobile, etc.

David Booker
Long Island
_______________________________________________

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Mar 25 13:53:00 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:53:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
In-Reply-To: <100207.15988.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <996165.41583.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
The Lane Museum does have a nice display -
Nothing like the double bubble bubble gum king - Bruce Wiener
Check out this.........    http://microcarmuseum.com/
I think he may have the largest collection in the world now.
My favorite is the 1957 Jurisch Motoplan - Now your talking small
It steers from the  handles next to the seat. - kind of hard to see - very
different.
It is owned by the guy who restores cars for Bruce.
I met him in Canada a few years before Bruce moved to Madison, GA.
Amazing collection - take the tour - make sure you have lots of time.
 
The link Brad sent is very cool - Thanks Brad.- I see a few i would like to
own.
 
Vigil
 
 


--- On Thu, 3/25/10, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
To: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>, "Spridget list"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Yahoo Spridget list"
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 12:43 PM


Try to get yourself to Nashville someday and go through the Lane Motor Museum.
THEN you'll know what small cars look like... Peel, Bond, Gogomobile, etc.

David Booker
Long Island
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Mar 25 14:08:04 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:08:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't  always t...
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References: <6a06e.5f4acf15.38dd04a6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <82873291755A483C903CA3D3C62C92D8@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 1:25 PM
To: <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke, isn't 
always t...

It shouldn't be necessary but I do have a little drilling jig for drilling
the corners of nuts, brass is nice and soft to drill and I do have some
spare nuts.

====================

You have no idea what self-control it takes to let that one slide by.


LAD 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Mar 25 14:28:04 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:28:04 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't  always t...
Message-ID: <7798e.330b8319.38dd2f64@aol.com>

Strangely enough a US based lister sent it to me as a gift some years  ago! 
 It's rarely used but ideal for drilling across a corner of the brass  
magnetic sump plug on my Sprite.  I think I've seen something similar if  not 
the same in the Eastwood catalogue.
 
I do have a bolt drilling jig as well.
 
In a message dated 25/03/2010 19:13:34 GMT Standard Time,  
oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes:

Where do  you find that jig?  Mine is set for drilling through bolt  
heads  only..

Lester


On Mar 25, 2010, at 1:25 PM,  WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> It shouldn't be necessary but I do  have a little drilling jig for  
> drilling
> the corners of  nuts, brass is nice and soft to drill and I do have  
>  some
> spare nuts.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Mar 25 14:29:21 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:29:21 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't  always t...
Message-ID: <77adc.11bfef24.38dd2fb1@aol.com>

Yes, that looks like the one I have.
 
In a message dated 25/03/2010 20:08:33 GMT Standard Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

PegasusAutoRacing.Com
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=5738
David  L

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Mar 25 14:31:03 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:31:03 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't  always t...
Message-ID: <77cba.5334c677.38dd3017@aol.com>

Your nuts have corners too??  Enquiring minds really don't want to  know.
 
In a message dated 25/03/2010 21:08:22 GMT Standard Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

It  shouldn't be necessary but I do have a little drilling jig for drilling
the  corners of nuts, brass is nice and soft to drill and I do have some
spare  nuts.

====================

You have no idea what self-control it  takes to let that one slide by.


LAD 

From charlieoc at comcast.net  Thu Mar 25 15:02:12 2010
From: charlieoc at comcast.net (Charlie O'Connors)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:02:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
In-Reply-To: <996165.41583.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <100207.15988.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<996165.41583.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00a701cacc66$d3a050f0$7ae0f2d0$@net>

Our club took a weekend trip north a couple of years ago and paid a visit to
Bruce Wiener's museum.  I highly recommend it.  Great collection of micro
cars and automobilia, and the folks who manage the museum for Bruce are
fantastic.

Charlie

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53 PM
To: Spridget list; Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small

 
The Lane Museum does have a nice display -
Nothing like the double bubble bubble gum king - Bruce Wiener
Check out this.........    http://microcarmuseum.com/
I think he may have the largest collection in the world now.
My favorite is the 1957 Jurisch Motoplan - Now your talking small
It steers from the  handles next to the seat. - kind of hard to see - very
different.
It is owned by the guy who restores cars for Bruce.
I met him in Canada a few years before Bruce moved to Madison, GA.
Amazing collection - take the tour - make sure you have lots of time.
 
The link Brad sent is very cool - Thanks Brad.- I see a few i would like to
own.
 
Vigil
 
 


--- On Thu, 3/25/10, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
To: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>, "Spridget list"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Yahoo Spridget list"
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 12:43 PM


Try to get yourself to Nashville someday and go through the Lane Motor
Museum.
THEN you'll know what small cars look like... Peel, Bond, Gogomobile, etc.

David Booker
Long Island
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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Mar 25 15:04:43 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:04:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Poor acceleration, and needing lots of choke,
 isn't always t...
In-Reply-To: <7798e.330b8319.38dd2f64@aol.com>
References: <7798e.330b8319.38dd2f64@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4BABDDFB.90707@justbrits.com>

<< I think I've seen something similar if not the same in the
Eastwood catalogue. >>

Correct, Daniel. 
Comes as set - 1 for nuts & 1 for bolts.
Mine is at least 20 years old.

Ed

PS:  And LESS $ [er, or was] than the Pegasus unit.

From pilotrob at msn.com  Thu Mar 25 15:29:39 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:29:39 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: WOW!! I thought OUR cars were
 small
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds2031CB2EE23A2DCC1F1716D4240@phx.gbl>

Great link, Vigil! Thanx!! :)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53 PM
To: Spridget list, Yahoo Spridget list
Subject: [midgetsprite] Re: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small

o?=
The Lane Museum does have a nice display -
Nothing like the double bubble bubble gum king - Bruce Wiener
Check out this.........o?=o?=o?= http://microcarmuseum.com/
I think he may have the largest collection in the world now.
My favorite is the 1957o?=Jurisch Motoplan - Now your talking small
It steers from the o?=handles next to the seat. - kind of hard to see - very
different.
It is owned by the guy who restores cars for Bruce.
I met him in Canada a few years before Bruce moved to Madison, GA.
Amazing collection - take the tour - make sure you have lots of time.
o?=
Theo?=link Brad sent is very cool - Thanks Brad.- I see a few i would like to
own.
o?=
Vigil
o?=
o?=


--- On Thu, 3/25/10, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
To: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>, "Spridget list"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Yahoo Spridget list"
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 12:43 PM


Try to get yourself to Nashville someday and go through the Lane Motor Museum.
THEN you'll know what small cars look like... Peel, Bond, Gogomobile, etc.

David Booker
Long Island
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 15:48:37 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:48:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: WOW!! I thought OUR cars were
 small
In-Reply-To: <SNT135-ds2031CB2EE23A2DCC1F1716D4240@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT135-ds2031CB2EE23A2DCC1F1716D4240@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88091003251548u33796122lf3119fb5759f8a64@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.life.com/image/3066935/in-gallery/34252/eye-popping-car-designs
A Janus/Mini!!

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com> wrote:

> Great link, Vigil! Thanx!! :)
>
> CB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:53 PM
> To: Spridget list, Yahoo Spridget list
> Subject: [midgetsprite] Re: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
>
> o?=
> The Lane Museum does have a nice display -
> Nothing like the double bubble bubble gum king - Bruce Wiener
> Check out this.........o?=o?=o?= http://microcarmuseum.com/
> I think he may have the largest collection in the world now.
> My favorite is the 1957o?=Jurisch Motoplan - Now your talking small
> It steers from the o?=handles next to the seat. - kind of hard to see -
> very
> different.
> It is owned by the guy who restores cars for Bruce.
> I met him in Canada a few years before Bruce moved to Madison, GA.
> Amazing collection - take the tour - make sure you have lots of time.
> o?=
> Theo?=link Brad sent is very cool - Thanks Brad.- I see a few i would like
> to
> own.
> o?=
> Vigil
> o?=
> o?=
>
>
> --- On Thu, 3/25/10, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] WOW!! I thought OUR cars were small
> To: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>, "Spridget list"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Yahoo Spridget list"
> <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 2010, 12:43 PM
>
>
> Try to get yourself to Nashville someday and go through the Lane Motor
> Museum.
> THEN you'll know what small cars look like... Peel, Bond, Gogomobile, etc.
>
> David Booker
> Long Island
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From gbmotorworks at juno.com  Thu Mar 25 16:47:58 2010
From: gbmotorworks at juno.com (gbmotorworks)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:47:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Reg Kennedy
Message-ID: <20100325.164842.962.79412@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>

I just re subscribed to this list ( Digest Form )
I was here a number of years ago. I have a request of you guys.
I recently received an e-mail from someone who says he knew Reg Kennedy
years ago. He got my address because I did an article on Reg and his
cars.
http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Reg-Kennedy-MGB-V8.htm
 I tried to forward it to him and it came back undeliverable.
This past week when I visited my Mom's place in Oreland, PA
I walked down to where Reg had lived. Seems he's returned across the pond
to
Jolly Olde England.
Has anyone kept in touch with him ? Is there an e-mail address ?
I'd like to forward this letter to him and let him decide if he knows the
bloke or not.
Thanks,   Greg
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Mar 25 17:39:11 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:39:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com>
	<d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com>
	<3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com>
	<EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2>
	<d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com>
	<0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2>
	<31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN>
	<DD9020064D1B4CF59DB4A35D283BE7E7@blackbox2>
	<E1A627E50DD24550A90145D7F463389C@MAIN>
	<d49b03131003240657j7e7bc5f9t5c5b02f0d60194a4@mail.gmail.com>
	<FFF9EF1B22AC4238A304D6B2CE8ACE2A@MAIN>
Message-ID: <043D0A0CF8654879A5BA63F991ED9F4C@blackbox2>

Yea,  Just what I figured - no difference.
I'll tell ya what, if I'm going to try anything different then I will go to the extreme and 
try the straight 140 weight API-GL4 that Mike said the Datsun manual recommended 
for warm climate.

CRC makes it.  SL24228 -- API/GL-4 Multi-Purpose Gear Oil .

It can't hurt and the 140wt will definitely quite down the noise in neutral.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: David Riker 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box

I recognize the bottle.  That's the stuff I have in my Datsun gearbox.  MT-90.  Same crunch in 2nd until it warms up.

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Mar 26 07:11:46 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:11:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] lister location
Message-ID: <F56D096BD28448709E2C3076D905C657@leovs802bt6yj7>

Does anyone on the list live near the Centreville, VA area?  If so could you
please contact me off list.

Thanks
Leo

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Mar 26 09:23:10 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:23:10 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <69ed1.78e32aeb.38dd0452@aol.com>
References: <69ed1.78e32aeb.38dd0452@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W335923687FAF6D67732C45B8230@phx.gbl>

They may, someday.



If you come out on a Saturday morning and find your tires flattened, it may
mean that they want to listen to it longer by delaying your exit ...


Not many people over there have firearms, do they?


RobertD


> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> I like to do something similar for my neighbours on a Saturday summer
> morning when they are sleeping with the windows open in their houses and I
have
> to leave at 0600 to get to Silverstone for scrutineering a race meeting.
> No-one has thanked me for this yet.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330 and a very non-standard exhaust note + DCOE induction
> roar
>
> In a message dated 25/03/2010 15:18:08 GMT Standard Time,
> bugeye15 at hotmail.com writes:
>
> My friend who's got the Roush has a special parking space right outside my
> office window. Every day when he leaves he romps the throttle for my
> benefit.
> It sounds amazing.

From richb at u.washington.edu  Fri Mar 26 09:52:19 2010
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:52:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Morriservice
Message-ID: <982A9CEE67CB4EDD843EAFCC643E6F60@psych.washington.edu>

This is just a follow up call to anyone with parts at Morriservice.

A group of listers from Washington are heading down to Paul A's Morriservice
this weekend to help Paul, his son Joey and Peter Schull sort out some of the
customers parts in the shop.  If you have sent parts to Paul to work on and
have not gotten them back please contact Bill L pythias at pacifier.com before
tomorrow morning or Bill M billmasq at hotmail.com by this afternoon so they can
look around for them and try to get them shipped back.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Mar 26 12:04:49 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:04:49 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
Message-ID: <b2903.39a889d6.38de5f51@aol.com>

Car is locked in the garage!
 
In a message dated 26/03/2010 16:45:18 GMT Standard Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

They  may, someday.



If you come out on a Saturday morning and find  your tires flattened, it may
mean that they want to listen to it longer by  delaying your exit ...


Not many people over there have firearms, do  they?


RobertD


> From:  WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> I like to do something similar for my  neighbours on a Saturday summer
> morning when they are sleeping with  the windows open in their houses and 
I
have
> to leave at 0600 to get  to Silverstone for scrutineering a race meeting.
> No-one has thanked me  for this yet.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330 and a very non-standard  exhaust note + DCOE induction
> roar
>
> In a message dated  25/03/2010 15:18:08 GMT Standard Time,
> bugeye15 at hotmail.com  writes:
>
> My friend who's got the Roush has a special parking  space right outside 
my
> office window. Every day when he leaves he  romps the throttle for my
> benefit.
> It sounds  amazing.

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Mar 26 12:18:10 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:18:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] If you have NOT........
In-Reply-To: <4BA93398.7070107@justbrits.com>
References: <4BA93398.7070107@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w182F79358EB4404DE84744C2230@phx.gbl>

Neat story,

but hate to burst Jalopnik's and everyone elses bubbles, BUT

The only true WRC cars he beat were ones that has major problems.
 His total time was and hour and 45 minutes behind the winning car of
Sebastien Loeb.
He theoretically would have placed 23 out of 25 if he raced in the WRC class.
In his own Rally America class, he was fourth, and hour and a half behind.

Kudos to his team for trying tho!!!


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:33:12 -0500
> From: shop at justbrits.com
> To: healeys at autox.team.net; mg-t at autox.team.net; Mgs at autox.team.net;
spridgets at autox.team.net; shop-talk at autox.team.net; bugeye at yahoogroups.com;
Midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Spridgets] If you have NOT........
>
>   seen or read this, it's just UN-REAL <VBG>!!!!!
>
>
>   How A $500 Craigslist Car Beat $400K Rally Racers
>
<http://jalopnik.com/5497042/how-a-500-craigslist-car-beat-400k-rally-racers>
>
> or
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/yf5dmyz
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Mar 26 12:23:50 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:23:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Shop-talk] Ford Roush P51B Engine   NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <4BAAD199.2030009@comcast.net>
References: <2bde9.46bac99a.38daa01c@aol.com>
	<779AAC94A28C4B4A9550074D1357376B@Dell9200>
	<4BAAD199.2030009@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4BAD09C6.2060006@justbrits.com>

A little background on the car for you NON-NASCAR
fans<G> !!

Jack has restored & regularly flies a P51B Mustang !!!

Wonder WHERE the name for the car came from<G> !!

<quote>
ROUSH P-15B MUSTANG!! 510HP!! ONE OF 51 MADE!! Roush Performance
continues their homage to the legendary World War II fighter plane with
the 2009 Roush P-51B Mustang, the second aviation themed pony car from
the Michigan based manufacturer.
</quote>

And as a Cup Fan, I already knew the story, but just wanted
to get correct info for you folks<VBG> !!

Ed

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Mar 26 14:53:34 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:53:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Directions to Paul A's
Message-ID: <329631937.20100326145334@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,


   From the South.. NE Lombard off I-5 . Go WEST to CLARENDON, a
   couple of miles?

   9123, on your left. Look for BLUE MORRIS MINORS in the DRIVEWAY.



  From the NORTH

  While it looks like the best way to get to Paul's is to get off on
  Lombard, there is no Southboudn RAMP off I-5 there

  the best way is ..

  get off at Interstate Avenue, (exit 306?)

  follow that to the first stop light. Take a RIGHT onto ARGYLE.

  that wraps around to Columbia BLVD.. go LEFT on COLUMBIA

  take that to PORTSMOUTH. turn LEFT on PORTSMOUTH.

  go three or four blocks to HUDSON.. turn RIGHT on HUDSON.

  go three or four blocks to CLARENDON. turn right on CLARENDON

  It's a little way down on your LEFT. you'll see MORRIS MINORS in the
  driveway. if you go to far you hit a cul de sac.
-- 


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
  Women DO come with instructions. Just ask them! 

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Mar 26 15:04:35 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:04:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Directions to Paul A's
In-Reply-To: <329631937.20100326145334@pacifier.com>
References: <329631937.20100326145334@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <58345808.20100326150435@pacifier.com>

Hello,

      At Paul A, I will have a phone on.. 360-261-9298

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                            mailto:pythias at pacifier.com

 Honest, teacher! A virus REALLY did eat my homework! 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Mar 26 20:26:10 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 23:26:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Finally, painted and buffed
Message-ID: <4BAD7AD2.5090904@comcast.net>

3rd time's a charm as the first 2 paint jobs were not to my liking, and 
I painted the car!
This time I had a pro detailer do the buffing, the kid knows his stuff 
and it shows.
Now I have a little bit of assembly work to do and my Sprite will be 
back on the road.

http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/spritenut/

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From pilotrob at msn.com  Fri Mar 26 21:55:50 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:55:50 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Visi-bleed - Why didn;
 t you guys tell me how  great these are?
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds2BD9138DFE8547495B4E8D4220@phx.gbl>

Not quite the gravity of a Near Death Experience Spencer,  but a passable
ephifany non-theless.

Spencer, if we old-timers had told you we would have had to kill you not to
mention are telling you would have spoiled the fun of your own discovery.

So, don't you ever......EVER......question the wisdom of your elders again!!!
:)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: spencer_baker
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 12:43 AM
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [midgetsprite] Visi-bleed - Why didn;t you guys tell me how great
these are?

You old-timers should have told me how great the visi-bleed hydraulic bleeding
tube is. I feel like I was just let into some secret auto fraternity.

I have a new favorite tool. My mityvac developed a tiny air leak after 15
years, and I was having a terrible time getting my MGB brakes bleed the old
fashioned way, with my wife working the pedal. I took a chance and grabbed a
visi-bleed until I could make a new vacuum cup for my mityvac. This thing is
awesome. I hooked it up to the bleed screw, put it into an old jar, opened the
screw half a turn, and pumped the brakes until the old brown fluid came out
and there were no bubbles in the tube. Did this on the other three corners,
and now I have a perfectly firm pedal, and the fluid is coming out clear at
each corner. Took about 5 minutes by myself.

-Spence

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 27 08:36:59 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 08:36:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Historic Healey Photos
Message-ID: <464855.60289.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Something for everyone here, big and little Healeys alike:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=45153476969

Rick



Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Mar 27 08:54:34 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:54:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye on craigslist $600.
Message-ID: <205cef431003270854q556301fdi73259e1211d637f7@mail.gmail.com>

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1659670688.html

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Mar 27 08:55:33 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:55:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Finally, painted and buffed
In-Reply-To: <4BAD7AD2.5090904@comcast.net>
References: <4BAD7AD2.5090904@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef431003270855k3f2d7af5pae12801113efdc3d@mail.gmail.com>

Frank looks great good work ; )
Lin

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> 3rd time's a charm as the first 2 paint jobs were not to my liking, and I
> painted the car!
> This time I had a pro detailer do the buffing, the kid knows his stuff and
> it shows.
> Now I have a little bit of assembly work to do and my Sprite will be back
> on the road.
>
> http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/spritenut/
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Mar 27 09:17:29 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:17:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: [Healeys] Pawn Stars
In-Reply-To: <SNT143-w1D162ED850319CF0DA35AD4220@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT143-w1D162ED850319CF0DA35AD4220@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W29FF3E6DBBD26EBC2DA8F1B8220@phx.gbl>

FYI.



I know nothing about it other than what it says here.

Robert Duquette



> An Austin Healey square body sprite is going to be featured on the show
"Pawn
> Stars"- Monday evening 10PM on the history channel. Right after "American
> Pickers".

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 27 09:32:40 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 09:32:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Historic Healey Photos
In-Reply-To: <464855.60289.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <780595.27082.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That wins "Best Link Ever Forwarded on this List".

Ron

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=45153476969
> 
> Rick

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar 27 15:04:43 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:04:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Targa Newfoundland
Message-ID: <0083095D5E21421C8C335DFF1816A8DA@HomePC>

This is the rally that Ron and friends will be running.

On Speed Channel now.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Mar 27 15:49:00 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:49:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Motor Oil in the Gear Box
References: <37dc82d41003211423s6a2c3e60r77f160105d4d2017@mail.gmail.com><d49b03131003211813gb11877au3e969b415799a6a3@mail.gmail.com><3AB29C7D8EB74482A90254A71E40491F@blackbox2><d49b03131003212119q1c1ee37hd1f5b1afd978fd2b@mail.gmail.com><EEFB6BBAB0A24633BA00847096C86D2B@blackbox2><d49b03131003212238x17c57febu6690210717fbe6be@mail.gmail.com><0E21399778BC4B37B539FFADF2E69575@blackbox2><31B991B6383F47B889E00F3050AAB46F@MAIN><DD9020064D1B4CF59DB4A35D283BE7E7@blackbox2><E1A627E50DD24550A90145D7F463389C@MAIN><d49b03131003240657j7e7bc5f9t5c5b02f0d60194a4@mail.gmail.com><FFF9EF1B22AC4238A304D6B2CE8ACE2A@MAIN>
	<043D0A0CF8654879A5BA63F991ED9F4C@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <F8DAD6FED89743BAA90A8D2ECE35C802@blackbox2>

The 140wt Experiment...

I emailed CRC's customer support on Friday and they indicated that the 140wt gear oil
could be found at NAPA. 

The local NAPA had a few quarts 'in the back" (not on display). $17 for two quarts.
The bottles were dusty.  There must not be much action these days on
the ol' 140wt.

I put it in the tranny this afternoon and took it for a spin.  I think I like the results.
Here are my observations.

It was about 45F today.  It took about an hour for the oil to fill into the tranny 
because it is so thick.  I might have saved some time if I warmed the quart containers 
beforehand.  It's not as thick as STP but it's pretty gooey.

I saved the drained oil for use in the roto-tiller and for oiling the chainsaws.

I fired up the car and let it warm up for a few minutes (as I always do). 
The transmission noise when idling in neutral was definitely reduced to an acceptable level.   
No totally eliminated but much better.
 
As I pulled away from the house and reved out through 1st gear and shifted into second...
No crunch!   But it was strange. It was a slow, gated shift.  Hard to describe because
I have sort of trained myself to make the shift carefully.   It seems that the thick oil tends
to block the shift for a little time interval until the synchos match up in speed.  
It was like this for the first few 1st to 2nd shifts I made as I went out of the neighborhood.   
Not a quick shift, but no crunching.  2nd to 3rd, 3rd to 4th were fine as always, 
they did not seem to be impacted. 

Things changed a little as it warmed up and I covered more distance.

At about 5-6 mile point I was reading about 140F on the engine temp guage.
I then attempted a quick 1st-2nd shift that crunched slightly.  It now seemed
to be behaving like it does with the 75 wt. oil when cold.  I felt as though I must now
do the shifts carefully as before..and I did.

I was low on fuel so I then headed towards a gas station that was about 3-4 miles away.
As I was getting close to the gas station the engine was now at 160F.  It seem like  the tendency 
to crunch subsided much like it did when it warmed up with the previous thinner gear oil.

After the fillup I then drove maybe another 10 miles through some country roads.  
With the cool ambient my engine temp never went above 165F.

As expected, as the tranny warmed up the noise in neutral at idle increased a little, but it was
much better that with the thinner weight oil.

So there you have it.  Granted. I've only done one test drive but I think it is a big improvement.

The tendency to cruch is minimized when cold, you then move through a narrow
temperture window later on where the tendency to crunch re-apppears.  As it warms up
further it then goes away as it did with the thinner oil.  Neutral noise is reduced.

We'll have to see how it goes through the summer and on some longer trips...
As always YMMV...

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Mar 27 15:50:46 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:50:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Finally, painted and buffed
References: <4BAD7AD2.5090904@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <EC4EA4A769634107BCB7739F95E9F174@blackbox2>

It's hard to tell from the pictures, but is that a metallic blue or a solid blue?
Nice gloss.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:26 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Finally, painted and buffed


> 3rd time's a charm as the first 2 paint jobs were not to my liking, and 
> I painted the car!
> This time I had a pro detailer do the buffing, the kid knows his stuff 
> and it shows.
> Now I have a little bit of assembly work to do and my Sprite will be 
> back on the road.
> 
> http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/spritenut/

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Mar 27 15:58:21 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:58:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Reg Kennedy
In-Reply-To: <20100325.164842.962.79412@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20100325.164842.962.79412@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <24EB64F0-751E-46F6-B4DE-9C021EC04913@phillymgclub.com>

I'll get him Regs email addy when I get home tonight

Larry

Larry Macy, Ph.D
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

"I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating with  
people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin

Sent via iPhone

On Mar 25, 2010, at 19:47, gbmotorworks <gbmotorworks at juno.com> wrote:

> I just re subscribed to this list ( Digest Form )
> I was here a number of years ago. I have a request of you guys.
> I recently received an e-mail from someone who says he knew Reg  
> Kennedy
> years ago. He got my address because I did an article on Reg and his
> cars.
> http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Reg-Kennedy-MGB-V8.htm
> I tried to forward it to him and it came back undeliverable.
> This past week when I visited my Mom's place in Oreland, PA
> I walked down to where Reg had lived. Seems he's returned across the  
> pond
> to
> Jolly Olde England.
> Has anyone kept in touch with him ? Is there an e-mail address ?
> I'd like to forward this letter to him and let him decide if he  
> knows the
> bloke or not.
> Thanks,   Greg
> ____________________________________________________________
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> Hotel pics, info and virtual tours.  Click here to book a hotel  
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From pilotrob at msn.com  Sat Mar 27 16:35:41 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:35:41 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Good news!!
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds15BE5DDBADA4E75CBAA64D4220@phx.gbl>

News Alert from NewsMax...drinking promotes good health!!!

When your S/O biotches when you want that extra shot for increased
fortitude.....

"Moderate drinking may help arthritis"

(obligatory Spridget content)....good for you older guys who may develop
problems getting in and out of your Spridgets as age adds pounds and reduces
flexibilty!!

Cheers!

CB

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Mar 27 16:47:39 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:47:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: [Healeys] Pawn Stars
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W29FF3E6DBBD26EBC2DA8F1B8220@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT143-w1D162ED850319CF0DA35AD4220@phx.gbl>
	<BAY112-W29FF3E6DBBD26EBC2DA8F1B8220@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003271647n62676c3cn5354b5df6af23b2a@mail.gmail.com>

We enjoy the show and Tivo every episode so will catch it. I might even be
able to burn off a DVD of it....

Cheers!!
jim

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:17 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> FYI.
>
>
>
> I know nothing about it other than what it says here.
>
> Robert Duquette

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 27 17:30:13 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:30:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Targa Newfoundland
In-Reply-To: <0083095D5E21421C8C335DFF1816A8DA@HomePC>
Message-ID: <965992.55116.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Jeff called me at 4 to tell me it was on. Lynette hid my laptop and took my
Blackberry's battery and without tethers to work for the first time in a long
time, I fell into blissful sleep for 2 hours and missed it.

Ron

--- On Sat,
3/27/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> From: Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Targa Newfoundland
> To:
"Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010,
5:04 PM
> This is the rally that Ron and
> friends will be running.
> 
> On
Speed Channel now.
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Mar 27 18:58:07 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:58:07 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Targa Newfoundland
In-Reply-To: <965992.55116.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <965992.55116.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <57657.173.110.162.11.1269741487.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Ron,

I should have it on dvd if everything worked well.  I can't get cable so a
friend records things for me.  Don should have it too.

Dave


> Jeff called me at 4 to tell me it was on. Lynette hid my laptop and took
> my
> Blackberry's battery and without tethers to work for the first time in a
> long
> time, I fell into blissful sleep for 2 hours and missed it.
>
> Ron
>
> --- On Sat,
> 3/27/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Larry Daniels
> <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Targa Newfoundland
>> To:
> "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010,
> 5:04 PM
>> This is the rally that Ron and
>> friends will be running.
>>
>> On
> Speed Channel now.

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun Mar 28 00:18:55 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:18:55 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Stacking Tires....
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds7CAD2F97EE3BEC5CF7717D4210@phx.gbl>

This is cool... :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 2:12 AM
To: Kent Stehlik, Helen Harrington, Kevin Harrington, Charley Braum,
rrengineer @dslextreme.com, Chuck Doswell, Robert E. Shlafer, Pat Hamit, Tom
Johnson, Larry Noller, Peter Ballan
Subject: Stacking Tires....

When you get to where you can stack tires like this, you'll be ready for the
next level in racing!!
--
Cheers!!
Jim
o?=In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type video/x-ms-wmv which had a name of How to stack tires.wmv]

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun Mar 28 05:28:11 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:28:11 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Misc. Parts - Exc. Like New
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds21A0CC4DD9DCBB1C34FB6ED4210@phx.gbl>

Bugeye/Spridget Roadsters:
Wind Wings - Complete
including ss hardware               $60 + shp

6 Bladed Plastic Fan                   $65 + shp

CB

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 28 06:14:55 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:14:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Targa Newfoundland
In-Reply-To: <57657.173.110.162.11.1269741487.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <727052.16690.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, dwoerpel at wi.net <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
> friend records
things for me.  Don should have it
> too.

Thanks, Dave. Remember, I love him,
but Don wanted Jeff and me to run the 1400 mile rally with a slide rule and
stop watches. I'm afraid his copy was made by taking a bunch of pictures on
his Brownie camera and then putting them in a flipbook.

Ron

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Mar 28 08:59:51 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 10:59:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Targa Newfoundland
In-Reply-To: <727052.16690.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <727052.16690.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4BAF7CF7.3060802@wi.net>

HA!  I think I can do a little better than that.  I am bringing by 
slip-stick and stop watch however!

Program note: the recap of the Targa has a lot of talking and less 
action than previous years but we'll take what we can get.

I'm thinking we'll need our long-johns too; I'll have to reattach one of 
the buttons on the "back door" of the drawers.  (hey! DO NOT even go there.)

Team Stud Rules!

Dave W.


Ron Soave wrote:
> --- On Sat, 3/27/10, dwoerpel at wi.net <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
>   
>> friend records
>>     
> things for me.  Don should have it
>   
>> too.
>>     
>
> Thanks, Dave. Remember, I love him,
> but Don wanted Jeff and me to run the 1400 mile rally with a slide rule and
> stop watches. I'm afraid his copy was made by taking a bunch of pictures on
> his Brownie camera and then putting them in a flipbook.
>
> Ron

From george.brokaw at cox.net  Sun Mar 28 10:32:22 2010
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:32:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] amazing technology
Message-ID: <00cd01cace9c$9fcf1850$df6d48f0$@brokaw@cox.net>

Frank, now you can make your own parts!  (Note the China/India references in
the video)

http://widgets.nbc.com/o/47f1317f105123ad/498ebd00a62edaa0/47fe70d4555df05a/9
e46bd46/-cpid/ba4377d3bfd6c81

Or

http://tinyurl.com/azza6e

From pelliott at innercite.com  Sun Mar 28 11:27:18 2010
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:27:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau
Message-ID: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>

I NEED a tonneau cover for my 62 Sprite.  $350 from the usual suppliers. Any
other suggestions?   

 

 

  _____  

Patrick Elliott

www.SyilAmerica.com
541 297 0004

From george.brokaw at cox.net  Sun Mar 28 12:10:30 2010
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:10:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau
In-Reply-To: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>
References: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>
Message-ID: <00dc01caceaa$55ad3fa0$0107bee0$@brokaw@cox.net>

Patrick,

With the exchange rate @ ~ 1.5, the UK has some good prices right now.

Here is a couple:

http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=1192

http://www.ahspares.co.uk/en/products/default.aspx
This one will require you to click through the menus to get to Sprite, Hoods
and Tonneaus.

http://www.mgocspares.co.uk/acatalog/MGOC_Spares_HARDTOPS___TONNEAU__MIDGET_
_132.html



Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Elliott
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:27 PM
To: 'Spridgeteers'
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau

I NEED a tonneau cover for my 62 Sprite.  $350 from the usual suppliers. Any
other suggestions?   

 

 

  _____  

Patrick Elliott

www.SyilAmerica.com
541 297 0004
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Sun Mar 28 12:25:27 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:25:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau
In-Reply-To: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>
Message-ID: <230135.53434.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Shrink-wrap.

jay

--- On Sun, 3/28/10, Patrick Elliott <pelliott at innercite.com> wrote:



I NEED a tonneau cover for my 62 Sprite.  $350 from the usual suppliers. Any
other suggestions? 

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 28 12:37:48 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:37:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau
In-Reply-To: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>
References: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>
Message-ID: <A63AA008-CD07-4B77-96F5-7A8140DA7A9A@gmail.com>

On Mar 28, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Patrick Elliott wrote:

> I NEED a tonneau cover for my 62 Sprite.  $350 from the usual  
> suppliers. Any
> other suggestions?


Patrick,

I have purchased tops here;

http://www.topsonline.com/index.php?CarmodelID=38000

Scroll down for the tonneau prices.

I have not purchased any tonneau products from them, just tops.

Kevin

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sun Mar 28 13:44:55 2010
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:44:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau
In-Reply-To: <00dc01caceaa$55ad3fa0$0107bee0$@brokaw@cox.net>
Message-ID: <179161426.2338401269809095207.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Problem I have always found with UK tonneaus is the steering wheel cutout is
on the wrong side (on the right side).

--David C.
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
B B  B  B  John Adams
B B  B  B  US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Herder" <george.brokaw at cox.net>
To: "Patrick Elliott" <pelliott at innercite.com>, "Spridgeteers"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:10:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tonneau

Patrick,

With the exchange rate @ ~ 1.5, the UK has some good prices right now.

Here is a couple:

http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=1192

http://www.ahspares.co.uk/en/products/default.aspx
This one will require you to click through the menus to get to Sprite, Hoods
and Tonneaus.

http://www.mgocspares.co.uk/acatalog/MGOC_Spares_HARDTOPS___TONNEAU__MIDGET_
_132.html



Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Elliott
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:27 PM
To: 'Spridgeteers'
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau

I NEED a tonneau cover for my 62 Sprite. B $350 from the usual suppliers. Any
other suggestions? B 

B 

B 

B B _____ B 

Patrick Elliott

www.SyilAmerica.com
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From george.brokaw at cox.net  Sun Mar 28 13:54:39 2010
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 15:54:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau
In-Reply-To: <179161426.2338401269809095207.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <00dc01caceaa$55ad3fa0$0107bee0$@brokaw@cox.net>
	<179161426.2338401269809095207.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00f401caceb8$e2a048e0$a7e0daa0$@brokaw@cox.net>

EVERY listing I looked at has both listed.



Paul





Problem I have always found with UK tonneaus is the steering wheel cutout is
on the wrong side (on the right side).

--David C.
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Herder" <george.brokaw at cox.net>
To: "Patrick Elliott" <pelliott at innercite.com>, "Spridgeteers"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 3:10:30 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tonneau

Patrick,

With the exchange rate @ ~ 1.5, the UK has some good prices right now.

Here is a couple:

http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=1192

http://www.ahspares.co.uk/en/products/default.aspx
This one will require you to click through the menus to get to Sprite, Hoods
and Tonneaus.

http://www.mgocspares.co.uk/acatalog/MGOC_Spares_HARDTOPS___TONNEAU__MIDGET_
_132.html



Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Elliott
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 1:27 PM
To: 'Spridgeteers'
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau

I NEED a tonneau cover for my 62 Sprite.  $350 from the usual suppliers. Any
other suggestions?





  _____

Patrick Elliott

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sun Mar 28 14:41:30 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:41:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] smooth case brass cones
Message-ID: <BAY145-w4872B39CCA89B664CD5C45C2210@phx.gbl>

>From the Yahooey Bugeye list in case anyone is interested.


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!


G'day guys



I just checked my stocks and I have only one of these cones left, with
a tag on it saying Genuine NOS BMC. I'm not selling it as it might be
the only sample we have one day.



However, there is a local gearbox repair shop who I have used before to
remove, replace and machine these brass cones. Only Les, the owner of
the shop, knows how to do it and he's going to retire one day. I just
phoned him. He has a machinist make up the cones for him, low volume of
course, and the machinist is retiring in June.



It's getting to be a long story, isn't it!



I asked Les if he would be prepared to sell the brass cones by
themselves, on the guarantee that they would be going overseas and not
used locally to compete with him. No problem with him, and he can get
his machinst to make as many as we want.



Cost would be $33 AUD (=$30 USD) each. Not cheap, but reasonable I
think since it's a tedious manual machining task and there's a lot of
material wastage.



On the other hand, postage per item would be quite small as they don't
weigh much. Air Mail for three of them to the US would be just $12 USD.



I'm about to place an order for Joakim and two other guys.  Please contact me
off-line in the next 48 hours if you want any.



avagoodday

Colin

www.SpriteParts. com.au



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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sun Mar 28 15:11:28 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:11:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Guns - Broads - Wheels
In-Reply-To: <4541F05B6F6F49E287A6908E4E0C1EB6@dell1>
References: <ff59076c1003242033k6713ba7cs8dace870806af65c@mail.gmail.com>, ,
	<BAY112-W37ED9DA3CF210472A64FAEB8240@phx.gbl>,
	<BAY112-W14C8345B8D2166035A1095B8240@phx.gbl>,
	<4541F05B6F6F49E287A6908E4E0C1EB6@dell1>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w16D2AFF265758BC24E93F6C2210@phx.gbl>

Noooooooo,

Biff please tell me that it can't be....
from what I've seen, and H&R 939 is a .22!!!!!
Please tell me I'm wrong,
Steve McQueen can't be holding a .22!

after all,

http://jalopnik.com/5501035/at-80-years-old-steve-mcqueen-is-still-cooler-tha
n-you
or
http://tinyurl.com/yhhhjxk

Hard to believe he's been gone almost 30 years now.


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: biffjones at verizon.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:22:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: Guns - Broads - Wheels
>
> Robert,
>
> Looks like a H&R model 939, made from 1958 to 1986.
>
> Biff
>
>

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From nases at verizon.net  Sun Mar 28 17:03:52 2010
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:03:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] differential question
Message-ID: <508558CC-345D-421B-BB90-820923DEA874@verizon.net>

I finally got back to the Sprite this afternoon.  I replaced the rear hub
bearing and got it all back together.  After getting the axle in I realize
that there is about 1/4" play when I rotate the hub back and forth before the
axle turns the opposite wheel.  Is this too much or about right?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Mar 28 17:42:50 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:42:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Service .. Paul A... etc
In-Reply-To: <4B902912.707@comcast.net>
References: <4B902912.707@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <814794964.20100328174250@pacifier.com>

Hello,


We're done and gone. We did the best we could with what we knew.
 Paul had taken apart about 5 trannies and they were in pieces without names attached
. We recovered on for Martin Cooper, but that's about it. We found Trevor
 Jesse's flywheel, some shocks for Peter C. some paint for Frank C. but
  basically spent the weekend sorting and boxing. There are lots and
   lots of parts, and I'm sure unfilled orders, but that's all basically beyond
    our control at this point.

Word is that Gerard is interested.
There are plenty of assets, but also some liabilities,
 especially in dealing with "lost" orders, most especially
 since we found out today that Paul's computer had crashed a couple
 of months ago, so most of the information there is gone also......

 We did get to see Paul today. He is better than I had hoped, but not
 well enough to function on his own. 



We did recover my car and there is hope that it can be reassembled
 within a couple of weeks, Bill M's time permitting as it is at this
 moment making a pilgrimage to Renton. Hat's off to him and his


    generosity with time and knowledge.

     

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Atheism is a non-prophet organization. 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Mar 28 18:14:27 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:14:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau
In-Reply-To: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>
References: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>
Message-ID: <4BAFFEF3.5050509@comcast.net>

Patrick Elliott wrote:
> I NEED a tonneau cover for my 62 Sprite.  $350 from the usual suppliers. Any
> other suggestions?   
>
>   
Local upholestry shop, my last 2 were around $200 I think


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sun Mar 28 19:51:24 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 02:51:24 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Re: Fw: Stacking Tires....
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds13783689DD54D6C1783E31D4200@phx.gbl>

Once again, Ed comes through for the team!! :)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Shop at " Just Brits "
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:10 PM
To: Robert E. Shlafer
Subject: Re: Fw: Stacking Tires....

From pelliott at innercite.com  Sun Mar 28 20:06:38 2010
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:06:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau
In-Reply-To: <4BAFFEF3.5050509@comcast.net>
References: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>
	<4BAFFEF3.5050509@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <02c001caceec$da38ce00$8eaa6a00$@com>

Thanks frank. 
 I tried that route. One shop was simply "not interested", the other shop
wants an old tonnaeu to copy and they said "at least $400, but no
promises"....

I ordered one from topsonline.com, $267 to the door,  I'll review it and let
everyone know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] 
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 6:14 PM
To: Patrick Elliott
Cc: 'Spridgeteers'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tonneau

Patrick Elliott wrote:
> I NEED a tonneau cover for my 62 Sprite.  $350 from the usual suppliers.
Any
> other suggestions?   
>
>   
Local upholestry shop, my last 2 were around $200 I think


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

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From pilotrob at msn.com  Mon Mar 29 03:47:43 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:47:43 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Stacking Tires....
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds62E2CC71E8FAFF8FFB20DD4200@phx.gbl>

Geesh!

http://www.justbrits.com/Test/30394/wav

Ed says it will be moved to the "Joke Section" by Wed at latest. :)


CB

From pilotrob at msn.com  Mon Mar 29 05:44:59 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:44:59 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Fw: Re: Fw: Stacking Tires....
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds27E09C8DA03FA1B2750C2D4200@phx.gbl>

Thanx, Brad......

Looks like Ed has already taken care of "The Problem" caused by my eff-up in handling properly his prior email to me
containing a temporary link he was kind enough to place on his website 'til he could get around to installing same in his joke section.

Apologies to Ed and all concerened. 

My bad, gentlemen. :(

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fornal
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 8:24 AM
To: Robert E. Shlafer
Subject: Re: [midgetsprite] Fw: Re: Fw: Stacking Tires....

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:48 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at msn.com> wrote:

>  Sure, Bradster send it along and thanx!
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Brad Fornal
> *Sent:* Monday, March 29, 2010 5:03 AM
> *To:* Robert E. Shlafer
> *Subject:* Re: [midgetsprite] Fw: Re: Fw: Stacking Tires....
>
>
> I have the video file, that I could send to you separately, if you would
> like it to pass around.
>
> Brad
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob at msn.com>wrote:
>
>> Once again, Ed comes through for the team!! :)
>>
>> CB
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shop at " Just Brits "
>> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 8:10 PM
>> To: Robert E. Shlafer
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Stacking Tires....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Mar 29 07:42:54 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:42:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Stacking Tires....
In-Reply-To: <SNT135-ds62E2CC71E8FAFF8FFB20DD4200@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT135-ds62E2CC71E8FAFF8FFB20DD4200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4BB0BC6E.3010107@justbrits.com>

This AIN'T it, folks:

http://www.justbrits.com/Test/30394/wav

but THIS IS:

http://www.justbrits.com/Test/30394.wmv


Ed

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Mar 29 09:31:52 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:31:52 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau
In-Reply-To: <00dc01caceaa$55ad3fa0$0107bee0$@brokaw@cox.net>
References: <023901cacea4$4d86aab0$e8940010$@com>,
	<00dc01caceaa$55ad3fa0$0107bee0$@brokaw@cox.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W44A6BAA805997C72986F0FB8200@phx.gbl>

Don't forget these guys:



http://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/HOODS---TONNEAUS--YHD--ct272.html



Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )





> From: george.brokaw at cox.net
> To: pelliott at innercite.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 14:10:30 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tonneau
>
> Patrick,
>
> With the exchange rate @ ~ 1.5, the UK has some good prices right now.
>
> Here is a couple:
>
> http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=1192
>
> http://www.ahspares.co.uk/en/products/default.aspx
> This one will require you to click through the menus to get to Sprite,
Hoods
> and Tonneaus.
>
>
http://www.mgocspares.co.uk/acatalog/MGOC_Spares_HARDTOPS___TONNEAU__MIDGET_
> _132.html
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>
> I NEED a tonneau cover for my 62 Sprite. $350 from the usual suppliers. Any
> other suggestions?
>
> _____
>
> Patrick Elliott

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Mar 29 10:25:06 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:25:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC Volvo
Message-ID: <2A7B8E653E3D4AB49F3A5A011DEDDD7F@HomePC>

I see the Chinese auto company, Geely, bought Volvo from Ford.  I had been
considering a Volvo for my next daily driver.  Probably not anymore.

LAD

From adrianjones747 at earthlink.net  Mon Mar 29 11:21:48 2010
From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net (Adrian Jones)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:21:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] amazing technology
Message-ID: <006401cacf6c$b25c4710$1714d530$@net>

That is very cool.

I must be missing something though - what use is the plastic copy?

Jay says take it to a good machinist.

Well you might as well take the original bit to the machinist.

Do you get very accurate drawings out of the machine, or what?

Cheers

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Mon Mar 29 14:02:17 2010
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:02:17 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] amazing technology
In-Reply-To: <006401cacf6c$b25c4710$1714d530$@net>
References: <006401cacf6c$b25c4710$1714d530$@net>
Message-ID: <20100329210217.7E3FE18765B@autox.team.net>

Jay said that you use the 3-D plastic part as a mold to make a 
casting and then machine what you need to.

Bob

At 02:21 PM 3/29/2010, Adrian Jones wrote:
>That is very cool.
>
>I must be missing something though - what use is the plastic copy?
>
>Jay says take it to a good machinist.
>
>Well you might as well take the original bit to the machinist.
>
>Do you get very accurate drawings out of the machine, or what?
>
>Cheers
>_______________________________________________

From pelliott at innercite.com  Mon Mar 29 13:08:55 2010
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:08:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] amazing technology
In-Reply-To: <006401cacf6c$b25c4710$1714d530$@net>
References: <006401cacf6c$b25c4710$1714d530$@net>
Message-ID: <03be01cacf7b$ab4a9800$01dfc800$@com>

"Jay says take it to a good machinist."

I caught that too.  I think he should have said, Take the Cad drawing to a
machinist, or as the other guy had implied, The plastic parts can be used
for making casting molds.

The plastic printers are fantastic for product development, from drawing
board to preproduction test model in minutes.  Make a slight change or mod,
print another one, test fit, etc now can be done in a few hours instead of
days or weeks...

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Adrian Jones
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:22 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] amazing technology

That is very cool.

I must be missing something though - what use is the plastic copy?

Jay says take it to a good machinist.

Well you might as well take the original bit to the machinist.

Do you get very accurate drawings out of the machine, or what?

Cheers
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Mar 29 14:05:27 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:05:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] amazing technology
In-Reply-To: <03be01cacf7b$ab4a9800$01dfc800$@com>
Message-ID: <C7D66427.2576C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> "Jay says take it to a good machinist."
Easy for him to say...he's got a full time in house machinist.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Mar 29 14:48:06 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:48:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] amazing technology
In-Reply-To: <C7D66427.2576C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <03be01cacf7b$ab4a9800$01dfc800$@com>
	<C7D66427.2576C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e1003291448o243d6104v6c7378de559a8440@mail.gmail.com>

Not sure what ya'll are on to here but "Copy Milling" is a pretty common
thing these days. they have one at our local community college workshop
where they can copy just about anything and mill it out of billet.
Fascinating to watch!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > "Jay says take it to a good machinist."
> Easy for him to say...he's got a full time in house machinist.
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Mar 29 15:21:18 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:21:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] amazing technology
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e1003291448o243d6104v6c7378de559a8440@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <03be01cacf7b$ab4a9800$01dfc800$@com>
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	<43840a7e1003291448o243d6104v6c7378de559a8440@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87d24a$839kg3@email.mtu.edu>

Copy mill me a hardtop for a 1966 Sprite! The coordinates can be 
obtained by scanning an existing top - the original is never touched 
in the process. Then adjust as desired (window shape/location, 
sunroof?, etc) Or, scan just the car, design a new shaped top, then 
mill.  Well, why not?


At 05:48 PM 3/29/2010, you wrote:
>Not sure what ya'll are on to here but "Copy Milling" is a pretty common
>thing these days. they have one at our local community college workshop
>where they can copy just about anything and mill it out of billet.
>Fascinating to watch!
>
>Cheers!!
>Jim

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From grday at btinternet.com  Mon Mar 29 15:49:11 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 23:49:11 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Stacking Tires....
References: <SNT135-ds62E2CC71E8FAFF8FFB20DD4200@phx.gbl>
	<4BB0BC6E.3010107@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <3600ED9D6F2B47F4940F952E30D206DE@user8634b3d69b>

Now I've seen it - it was all worth while.

Great clip

Guy R Day
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; <midgesprite at yahoogroups.com>; 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Stacking Tires....


> This AIN'T it, folks:
>
> http://www.justbrits.com/Test/30394/wav
>
> but THIS IS:
>
> http://www.justbrits.com/Test/30394.wmv
>
>
> Ed
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 29 16:05:25 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:05:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] amazing technology
In-Reply-To: <87d24a$839kg3@email.mtu.edu>
References: <03be01cacf7b$ab4a9800$01dfc800$@com>
	<C7D66427.2576C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<43840a7e1003291448o243d6104v6c7378de559a8440@mail.gmail.com>
	<87d24a$839kg3@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <5f00d9911003291605x5ff1d304m5acda3e5713de051@mail.gmail.com>

They can.  They have mills large enough to make molds for boats over
25 feet long.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:
> Copy mill me a hardtop for a 1966 Sprite! The coordinates can be obtained
by
> scanning an existing top - the original is never touched in the process.
> Then adjust as desired (window shape/location, sunroof?, etc) Or, scan just
> the car, design a new shaped top, then mill.  Well, why not?

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Mon Mar 29 23:09:42 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 02:09:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Puhlese Stop
Message-ID: <70D9673A-5BFF-432F-B849-0965D86829D9@phillymgclub.com>

Wood you Puhleese stop sending dem electrnoical mails to dis here email addy??

I have seen enough, I have read enuff (mor'n sertain parties would wants me
to, da't fer shure)

I was plannin' a trip outta town. Not so's shure I kin go. Iff'n I keep gettin
d'ese here electronical mails, I ammna hafta stays ands reads 'em.

But I do'in wanna do dat.

So

See Ya whan I gets back from Costa Rica!!

Luv

L


--

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by
the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened.
But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.

Friedrich Nietzsche

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Mar 30 07:04:43 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:04:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Sprite Project Austin healey projest barn find -
 $2900 (Blue Point, NY)
Message-ID: <6A436DBC0653452BAB0DADC24960FEEA@Home>

This car is close to me, if anyone is interested in checking it out.

Bugeye Sprite Project Austin healey projest barn find - $2900 (Blue Point, NY)

http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/cto/1666323133.html

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 09:23:35 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:23:35 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Drive a Toyota, No LBC
Message-ID: <b777e2be1003300923y3935e586n9b5b4b858e3bfc7c@mail.gmail.com>

http://toyotasimulator.com/

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue Mar 30 10:36:30 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:36:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Drive a Toyota, No LBC
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be1003300923y3935e586n9b5b4b858e3bfc7c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1477413003.4761241269970590273.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Would be even better if the speedometer didn't reed 0mph.B  But nice road to
drive on though.

Ryan


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To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 12:23:35 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Spridgets] Drive a Toyota, No LBC

http://toyotasimulator.com/

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From corky at tailgatepartymate.com  Tue Mar 30 11:53:20 2010
From: corky at tailgatepartymate.com (Corky Bless)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:53:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...
Message-ID: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Any chance I can get the Bugzuki fella to shoot me an email??  I'm ordering up a suzuki DOHC engine to do a swap in my '63 Sprite and I could really use someone with first hand experience :)  

Just got my large and in charge 948cc running last week, but a little more power couldn't hurt!  I'm actually going to sell the 948cc motor and transmission if anyone is looking.  Thanks!  My email is corky at tailgatepartymate.com

Thank you Leo for filling me in on this forum...good stuff!!
 


9740 Appaloosa Rd Suite #200
San Diego CA 92131
Direct 619-208-0929
Fax 858-437-0433

Email: corky at tailgatepartymate.com 
Web: www.tailgatepartymate.com 

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Mar 30 13:44:07 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:44:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Just Brits Just Ed
Message-ID: <201003301244171.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Just Spoke with Just Ed and he's Just not around his computer, but 
Just for a coupla days.

Just in case anyone needed to Just email him.... you'll Just have to 
wait for a response.

Peter C

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Mar 30 14:12:50 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:12:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...
In-Reply-To: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <000c01cad04d$c1cac0f0$456042d0$@net>

Ahhh.. glad to see you made it here Corky.  You will like the eclectic group
of people here.  I must mention that you forgot a few critical items though.
Introduce yourself as far as your car and then we need to know critical
information relating to your views on guns, cats, and e-mail "threads" :)
ROFL waiting for this answer.

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Corky Bless
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:53 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...

Any chance I can get the Bugzuki fella to shoot me an email??  I'm ordering
up a suzuki DOHC engine to do a swap in my '63 Sprite and I could really use
someone with first hand experience :)  

Just got my large and in charge 948cc running last week, but a little more
power couldn't hurt!  I'm actually going to sell the 948cc motor and
transmission if anyone is looking.  Thanks!  My email is
corky at tailgatepartymate.com

Thank you Leo for filling me in on this forum...good stuff!!
 


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San Diego CA 92131
Direct 619-208-0929
Fax 858-437-0433

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From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Mar 30 14:26:03 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:26:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Just Brits Just Ed
References: <201003301244171.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <9FB558E08D1E4A9D9722D78AA5BEAB89@CGI.COMMTECH>

In rehab, no doubt!!!  :)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter 

> Just Spoke with Just Ed and he's Just not around his computer, but 
> Just for a coupla days.
> 
> Just in case anyone needed to Just email him.... you'll Just have to 
> wait for a response.
> 
> Peter C

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 15:06:31 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:06:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Just Brits Just Ed
In-Reply-To: <201003301244171.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201003301244171.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <k2h5f00d9911003301506n31c6925bl8b283394db6ebb4@mail.gmail.com>

A welcome break?
He must be updating the humor section of his website.


On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
> Just Spoke with Just Ed and he's Just not around his computer, but Just for
> a coupla days.
>
> Just in case anyone needed to Just email him.... you'll Just have to wait
> for a response.

From frogeye at cox.net  Tue Mar 30 15:12:29 2010
From: frogeye at cox.net (frogeye)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:12:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 crankshaft
Message-ID: <7B5889CF04694809BD5709BCCEBEA2BB@maind>

If anyone might have a spare standard 1275 crankshaft please contact me
forgeye at cox.net
Thanks
Alan

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Mar 30 15:59:49 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:59:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
Message-ID: <4BB28265.9030302@comcast.net>

Every time I put a dizzy drive in, I get it 180 out?
And since I get it wrong 100% of the time with only a 50/50 chance, this 
time I took my time, went by the book
And after carefully studying the dizzy drive for the larger or smaller 
offset by about 1 mm, I put it in and followed the book.
Well I just went to fire up my Sprite after the rebuild and paint and it 
was 180 out.
You can tell right away by the big POP when it starts to spin over.
So I fixed it and the new engine sounds great.
Open headers as of now and some major wiring still needs to be finished 
but it runs with 70 psi of oil pressure.
I'm happy, the paint came out great (finally) and now the engine sounds 
sweet too.
Just some wiring and an interior to finish up along with a cooling 
system, some lamps, seats, etc and I'll have my Sprite back.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:13:02 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:13:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...
In-Reply-To: <000c01cad04d$c1cac0f0$456042d0$@net>
References: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<000c01cad04d$c1cac0f0$456042d0$@net>
Message-ID: <u2le98d88091003301613g69181527s91a786411a588be1@mail.gmail.com>

DAMMIT LEO!! How DARE you forget to ask his opinion of the late, GREAT,
Frank Zappa!?

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Leo S <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> Ahhh.. glad to see you made it here Corky.  You will like the eclectic
> group
> of people here.  I must mention that you forgot a few critical items
> though.
> Introduce yourself as far as your car and then we need to know critical
> information relating to your views on guns, cats, and e-mail "threads" :)
> ROFL waiting for this answer.
>
> Leo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Corky Bless
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...
>
> Any chance I can get the Bugzuki fella to shoot me an email??  I'm ordering
> up a suzuki DOHC engine to do a swap in my '63 Sprite and I could really
> use
> someone with first hand experience :)
>
> Just got my large and in charge 948cc running last week, but a little more
> power couldn't hurt!  I'm actually going to sell the 948cc motor and
> transmission if anyone is looking.  Thanks!  My email is
> corky at tailgatepartymate.com
>
> Thank you Leo for filling me in on this forum...good stuff!!
>
>
>
> 9740 Appaloosa Rd Suite #200
> San Diego CA 92131
> Direct 619-208-0929
> Fax 858-437-0433
>
> Email: corky at tailgatepartymate.com
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:18:33 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:18:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...
In-Reply-To: <000c01cad04d$c1cac0f0$456042d0$@net>
References: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<000c01cad04d$c1cac0f0$456042d0$@net>
Message-ID: <4333f8141003301618p515284a6hf19a5c9ab25c4969@mail.gmail.com>

  your views on guns, cats, and e-mail "threads" :)

> ROFL waiting for this answer.
>
> Leo
>
>
Uh, Leo: ZAPPA? BEER?

Hal

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:18:57 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:18:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Boys and their Toys (Engineering Problem Solved)
In-Reply-To: <j2yb8f573d81003301611idb44c608m811f5d477c0a0516@mail.gmail.com>
References: <31b37.7854287a.38e3dba3@aol.com>
	<j2yb8f573d81003301611idb44c608m811f5d477c0a0516@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003301618j690668b4mbc4ed53e4f4fcbc2@mail.gmail.com>

In case the picture-link doesn't work....
H

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RobaJKGMMiE

-----


  In case you have not seen this before. Makes you hold your breath.....





  :


 *I wonder what the guy that did this the "first" time, was thinking??  *

    *

*
Leave it to German engineering...
[image: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RobaJKGMMiE]<http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=RobaJKGMMiE>
...click on the shovel to watch.




=
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:20:06 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:20:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Just Brits Just Ed
In-Reply-To: <201003301244171.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201003301244171.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003301620x6b68ac1aw6c8e03a878312c77@mail.gmail.com>

How un-just!

From frogeye at cox.net  Tue Mar 30 16:29:18 2010
From: frogeye at cox.net (frogeye)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:29:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 crankshaft
Message-ID: <7020C182EE72454799C5CF57BCCC9E1C@maind>

My corrected email address is
frogeye at cox.net

Alan

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:32:22 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:32:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...
In-Reply-To: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003301632p24df2248td4e6ddb606e099a7@mail.gmail.com>

Ditto what Leo said, Corky.

Viewed you website...heck of a deal on your "tail gate mate".  That is
$49.95 while they last, right?

...now if I only had a truck....

Oh wait, I do! It's resting peacefully in the woods at my parents, longing
to have its brakes worked on.  You know how those '56 chebbies are....

Herb

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Corky Bless
<corky at tailgatepartymate.com>wrote:

> Any chance I can get the Bugzuki fella to shoot me an email??  I'm ordering
> up a suzuki DOHC engine to do a swap in my '63 Sprite and I could really use
> someone with first hand experience :)
>
> Just got my large and in charge 948cc running last week, but a little more
> power couldn't hurt!  I'm actually going to sell the 948cc motor and
> transmission if anyone is looking.  Thanks!  My email is
> corky at tailgatepartymate.com
>
> Thank you Leo for filling me in on this forum...good stuff!!
>
>
>
> 9740 Appaloosa Rd Suite #200
> San Diego CA 92131
> Direct 619-208-0929
> Fax 858-437-0433
>
> Email: corky at tailgatepartymate.com
> Web: www.tailgatepartymate.com
> _______________________________________________
>
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From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Tue Mar 30 16:47:53 2010
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:47:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Just Brits Just Ed
In-Reply-To: <201003301244171.SM06964@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <2123681985.3452121269992873641.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Well Just thanks, Peter C.B B  (Didja ever find out whether we are related?)B 
8^)

--David C.
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net, mgs at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 4:44:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Spridgets] Just Brits Just Ed

Just Spoke with Just Ed and he's Just not around his computer, but
Just for a coupla days.

Just in case anyone needed to Just email him.... you'll Just have to
wait for a response.

Peter C
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:56:49 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:56:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
In-Reply-To: <4BB28265.9030302@comcast.net>
References: <4BB28265.9030302@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b11003301656n6f6735b9oce12e8b0db797f62@mail.gmail.com>

Luck of the Irish!  (you are Irish, right?!?)
Herb



On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Every time I put a dizzy drive in, I get it 180 out?
> And since I get it wrong 100% of the time with only a 50/50 chance, this
> time I took my time, went by the book
> And after carefully studying the dizzy drive for the larger or smaller
> offset by about 1 mm, I put it in and followed the book.
> Well I just went to fire up my Sprite after the rebuild and paint and it
> was 180 out.
> You can tell right away by the big POP when it starts to spin over.
> So I fixed it and the new engine sounds great.
> Open headers as of now and some major wiring still needs to be finished but
> it runs with 70 psi of oil pressure.
> I'm happy, the paint came out great (finally) and now the engine sounds
> sweet too.
> Just some wiring and an interior to finish up along with a cooling system,
> some lamps, seats, etc and I'll have my Sprite back.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Mar 30 16:57:23 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:57:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
In-Reply-To: <4BB28265.9030302@comcast.net>
References: <4BB28265.9030302@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <673809638.20100330165723@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     you must be reading the book upside down. 

-- 
Best regards,
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 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Remember, the fact that you're paranoid doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you!

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue Mar 30 17:19:40 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 00:19:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
In-Reply-To: <4BB28265.9030302@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <144440347.4964541269994780212.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I think the book MUST be wrong.B  We had the same problem with mine.B  Next
time you rebuild an engine (should be in what 3 weeks? :-)) do the opposite of
what the book says and see if that helps.



the car looks great

ryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 6:59:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?

Every time I put a dizzy drive in, I get it 180 out?
And since I get it wrong 100% of the time with only a 50/50 chance, this
time I took my time, went by the book
And after carefully studying the dizzy drive for the larger or smaller
offset by about 1 mm, I put it in and followed the book.
Well I just went to fire up my Sprite after the rebuild and paint and it
was 180 out.
You can tell right away by the big POP when it starts to spin over.
So I fixed it and the new engine sounds great.
Open headers as of now and some major wiring still needs to be finished
but it runs with 70 psi of oil pressure.
I'm happy, the paint came out great (finally) and now the engine sounds
sweet too.
Just some wiring and an interior to finish up along with a cooling
system, some lamps, seats, etc and I'll have my Sprite back.

--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Mar 30 17:30:52 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:30:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...
In-Reply-To: <u2le98d88091003301613g69181527s91a786411a588be1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>	
	<000c01cad04d$c1cac0f0$456042d0$@net>
	<u2le98d88091003301613g69181527s91a786411a588be1@mail.gmail.com>
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<<<< DAMMIT LEO!! How DARE you forget to ask his opinion of the late, GREAT,
Frank Zappa!?>>>>



Hey111!   I can only squeeze so much info out at first..  We will get into the
serious questions after he gets settled in here.



Corky:  shoot an e-mail to Larry at millerls at ado13.com



Leo

From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Mar 30 18:04:12 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:04:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
In-Reply-To: <144440347.4964541269994780212.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <144440347.4964541269994780212.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <81731D6FA26C4B4AB07D4D885D5693D3@RickPC>

I think you have an Australian book.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
To: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Why Is It?


>I think the book MUST be wrong.B  We had the same problem with mine.B  Next
> time you rebuild an engine (should be in what 3 weeks? :-)) do the 
> opposite of
> what the book says and see if that helps.

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Mar 30 18:53:05 2010
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:53:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
In-Reply-To: <4BB28265.9030302@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20100331025251.8BAE718764E@autox.team.net>

Frank, why don't you just install it the way you usually do and then turn it
180deg could just improve your odds.
		Crash

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Mar 30 19:53:07 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:53:07 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
Message-ID: <1654529843.87935.1270003987258.JavaMail.root@vms170045>


From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Mar 31 02:18:50 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 10:18:50 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
References: <20100331025251.8BAE718764E@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <579090ACD98C40CF90C3526767A39FF9@user8634b3d69b>

Frank,

Try having piston 4 at TDC and point the dizzy rotor at it before you drop 
it in.

Failing that do what Dave says below.  <Smile>

At least you recognise when it is 180 out!!!!

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
To: "'Frank'"
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Why Is It?


> Frank, why don't you just install it the way you usually do and then turn 
> it
> 180deg could just improve your odds.
> Crash
> _______________________________________________

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Mar 31 09:01:58 2010
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:01:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau fit
Message-ID: <p2vfbc9308f1003310901u7e94117dj83caa58b9da437f1@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Tonneau cover that is just a bit short to fit my MK2 Sprite.
It seems to have the right fasteners and the bar in the back but is just a
bit short to reach the front tenax fasteners.
Is there someone here in the Seattle area with a Bugeye that would let me
see if it fits their car?

Rick Bastedo

From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Wed Mar 31 09:55:43 2010
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:55:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] seat rails
Message-ID: <43655C04-DAE0-4C3D-9C08-F077436200AD@comcast.net>

Hi,

Does anyone in or near pottstown/philly have seat rails for a passenger side
seat for a midget they would be willing to part with. Somehow I have lost a
pair and need then to finish putting my car back together for this beautiful
weekend.

Thanks

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Mar 31 11:00:03 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:00:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] seat rails
In-Reply-To: <43655C04-DAE0-4C3D-9C08-F077436200AD@comcast.net>
References: <43655C04-DAE0-4C3D-9C08-F077436200AD@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <r2me98d88091003311100j935c754atc381f41924effdba@mail.gmail.com>

Not to be picky, but what year? Our 68 has the "C" type bars, but the cars
from the early 70's that I parted out, all had the "Z" style. I have some of
the "Z" ones, if that is what you need.

Brad


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Kristi & Lambert <
kristi74midget at comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does anyone in or near pottstown/philly have seat rails for a passenger
> side
> seat for a midget they would be willing to part with. Somehow I have lost a
> pair and need then to finish putting my car back together for this
> beautiful
> weekend.
>
> Thanks
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 31 12:04:23 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:04:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau fit
In-Reply-To: <p2vfbc9308f1003310901u7e94117dj83caa58b9da437f1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <413780.8173.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Rick,
 
Did you try  heating the cover?
 
They shrink when stored & stretch out with the heat.
 
You can try a heat gun or hair dryer.
 
I found the best way for me was to wait for a hot day.
Then set it out on the driveway. Then wait or take a drive.
Let it nice and hot - then it will get a little longer or stretch.
You did not say how short. They all seem to fit tight. Baggie would not look
good.
The tops are the same way - if they were not - they would flap in the wind.
 
Vigil



--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Tonneau fit
To: "SPRIDGETS" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 9:01 AM


I have a Tonneau cover that is just a bit short to fit my MK2 Sprite.
It seems to have the right fasteners and the bar in the back but is just a
bit short to reach the front tenax fasteners.
Is there someone here in the Seattle area with a Bugeye that would let me
see if it fits their car?

Rick Bastedo
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From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 31 16:43:39 2010
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:43:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge - follow up
In-Reply-To: <4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <4BB3DE2B.5010009@sbcglobal.net>

THANKS to all for the advice on fixing my rear brakes.
I initially thought the problem was with the wedges or the adjusting 
screw, but NO, it was the highly variable size of the brake shoes 
themselves.

We measured at least six pairs of shoes against a known good pair that 
was at least 30 years old. When you set the shoes on edge with the 
lining facing up and match the metal shoes against each other (ignoring 
the linings) the new shoes were approximately 1/10 inch (0.10) shorter! 
No wonder I ran out of adjustment range.

The solution that was suggested by several list members was to weld a 
bead of metal along the edge of the shoe where it meets the adjuster or 
wheel cylinder. A simple job to weld, grind the sides and edges smooth, 
coat the raw metal with lacquer to prevent rusting and install. Wow! I 
have plenty of range left now and a parking brake that works at four clicks!

I also discovered a bad wheel cylinder and leaking hub o-ring, now fixed.

Thanks to all for the help and no thanks to the lousy aftermarket 
supplier of inferior and inconsistent products.

Lee

Lee Fox wrote:
> I've run out of adjustment range on the rear brakes. New shoes, etc.
> I seem to recall that there was some talk about some adjustment wedges 
> were longer or wider than others and that you could weld a bead of metal 
> on one to make it bigger.
> Anyone remember the details about this?
> Thanks.
> Lee

From kgrowler at gmail.com  Wed Mar 31 17:26:12 2010
From: kgrowler at gmail.com (Kim Tonry)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:26:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
Message-ID: <p2zb3edb28c1003311726seef6ce18sccfbd42bbfd77441@mail.gmail.com>

Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

<Every time I put a dizzy drive in, I get it 180 out?
And since I get it wrong 100% of the time with only a 50/50 chance, this
time I took my time, went by the book>

Which book are you using? The Haynes illustration for the 1500 are 1800
wrong. Are the A-series illustrations wrong too?

Kim Tonry
Downers Grove, IL

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Mar 31 17:59:50 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:59:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge - follow up
In-Reply-To: <4BB3DE2B.5010009@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.9946.1269396043.6563.spridgets@autox.team.net><4BA98798.4060801@sbcglobal.net>
	<4BB3DE2B.5010009@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <8F9C5B67DA3A45E78F543EF54D9D2AC7@spider>

IMHO, if you have one bad wheel cylinder, they may all need attention.
...bill in oregon
=====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lee Fox
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 4:44 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge - follow up

THANKS to all for the advice on fixing my rear brakes.
I initially thought the problem was with the wedges or the adjusting 
screw, but NO, it was the highly variable size of the brake shoes 
themselves.

We measured at least six pairs of shoes against a known good pair that 
was at least 30 years old. When you set the shoes on edge with the 
lining facing up and match the metal shoes against each other (ignoring 
the linings) the new shoes were approximately 1/10 inch (0.10) shorter! 
No wonder I ran out of adjustment range.

The solution that was suggested by several list members was to weld a 
bead of metal along the edge of the shoe where it meets the adjuster or 
wheel cylinder. A simple job to weld, grind the sides and edges smooth, 
coat the raw metal with lacquer to prevent rusting and install. Wow! I 
have plenty of range left now and a parking brake that works at four clicks!

I also discovered a bad wheel cylinder and leaking hub o-ring, now fixed.

Thanks to all for the help and no thanks to the lousy aftermarket 
supplier of inferior and inconsistent products.

Lee

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Mar 31 18:46:30 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:46:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Why Is It?
In-Reply-To: <p2zb3edb28c1003311726seef6ce18sccfbd42bbfd77441@mail.gmail.com>
References: <p2zb3edb28c1003311726seef6ce18sccfbd42bbfd77441@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BB3FAF6.8050500@comcast.net>

Kim Tonry wrote:
> Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> <Every time I put a dizzy drive in, I get it 180 out?
> And since I get it wrong 100% of the time with only a 50/50 chance, this
> time I took my time, went by the book>
>
> Which book are you using? The Haynes illustration for the 1500 are 1800
> wrong. Are the A-series illustrations wrong too?
>
>   
Kim

I use the Bentley manual.
I think it's wrong too.
I have found 2 other items wrong in the Bentley in the past.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 31 20:42:11 2010
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:42:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] rear brake adjuster wedge - follow up
In-Reply-To: <8F9C5B67DA3A45E78F543EF54D9D2AC7@spider>
References: <8F9C5B67DA3A45E78F543EF54D9D2AC7@spider>
Message-ID: <4BB41613.3090805@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Bill,

You are correct. I did just one wheel last year and now I find the other 
is bad. Of course, I should have done them both together. I always do 
disc brake calipers in pairs. Don't know why I thought drums would be 
any different.

Lee
-------------
IMHO, if you have one bad wheel cylinder, they may all need attention.
...bill in oregon

From pelliott at innercite.com  Wed Mar 31 21:11:59 2010
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:11:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...
In-Reply-To: <000c01cad04d$c1cac0f0$456042d0$@net>
References: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<000c01cad04d$c1cac0f0$456042d0$@net>
Message-ID: <019501cad151$7af2d050$70d870f0$@com>

" and e-mail "threads"  "

You know Jay doesn't like that term....

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Mar 30 21:45:10 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:45:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...
In-Reply-To: <019501cad151$7af2d050$70d870f0$@com>
References: <778871.48544.qm@web56503.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<000c01cad04d$c1cac0f0$456042d0$@net>
	<019501cad151$7af2d050$70d870f0$@com>
Message-ID: <001301cad08c$f2773d20$d765b760$@net>

Ssshhhhhh.  He might be listening.

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Elliott [mailto:pelliott at innercite.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 11:12 PM
To: 'Leo S'; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Mr. Bugzuki...


" and e-mail "threads"  "

You know Jay doesn't like that term....