From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun  1 09:46:02 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:46:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiln_XmIz8mqffNYUCNG_qoBuXLmgRefFSiX3ijp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<AANLkTiln_XmIz8mqffNYUCNG_qoBuXLmgRefFSiX3ijp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w31A0DCD141AB79D7FB8FF7C2EF0@phx.gbl>

Just an FYI for all,

I guess Canada thinks it's system is broken too.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100531/hl_nm/us_health_3


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:31:23 -0500
> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
> To: soavero at yahoo.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
>
> It is broken in the other direction too.  My daughter runs the OB-GYN of a
> large hospital outside of Atlanta.  Her annual premium for malpractice is
> over $80K.  She takes home about $25K after the malpractice premium. She
> says it is a racket but after 2 lawsuits she doesn't dare *not* carry the
> insurance.  A lot of people think the doctors and nurses are getting all
> that money.  They aren't.  It's the insurance companies and most especially
> the lawyers.
>
> Also, if you need emergency (immediate) care, remember that you are paying
> for not only your treatment but the treatment of several other people as
> well. They are the people who don't use a primary care physician. When they
> need treatment for whatever they go straight to the immediate care facility
> (ER or whatever). They have no insurance even if they could afford it and
no
> savings. They know that the law says the facility cannot turn them away and
> that YOU will pay for them.
>
> That's how the politicians (mostly lawyers) solved the healthcare problem
> the last time they touched it. IE they take the money out of your pocket if
> you are a hard working responsible citizen. That's also why a lot of us are
> scared as we wait to see what they've done to us this time!
>
> I saw a great bumper sticker the other day. "Please don't tell my family
I'm
> a lawyer. They think I'm a piano player in a whore house."
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Just got a bill for a 1 hour visit to an immediate care facility for
> > diverticulitis. $4500. I questioned everything they did at the time and
> > asked for cost (they had no idea) and they wondered why. This country is
> > broken.
> >
> > That is all.
> >
> > Ron
> >

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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun  1 10:19:59 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 16:19:59 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w31A0DCD141AB79D7FB8FF7C2EF0@phx.gbl>
References: <286369.60917.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, ,
	<AANLkTiln_XmIz8mqffNYUCNG_qoBuXLmgRefFSiX3ijp@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BAY145-w31A0DCD141AB79D7FB8FF7C2EF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w49A37026DD914B01666B80B8EF0@phx.gbl>

Kind of like that joke about bankers, eh?
A banker is a person who'll lend you an umbrella when the sun is shining and
ask for it back as soon as it starts to rain.
With the health care situation, it was okay to collect our taxes for decades,
but when you start to need the service ...
Bloody politicians!!! :)


> From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 11:46:02 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
>
> Just an FYI for all,
>
> I guess Canada thinks it's system is broken too.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100531/hl_nm/us_health_3
>
>
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 10:31:23 -0500
> > From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
> > To: soavero at yahoo.com
> > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I'm pissed - No LBC
> >
> > It is broken in the other direction too.  My daughter runs the OB-GYN of
a
> > large hospital outside of Atlanta.  Her annual premium for malpractice is
> > over $80K.  She takes home about $25K after the malpractice premium. She
> > says it is a racket but after 2 lawsuits she doesn't dare *not* carry the
> > insurance.  A lot of people think the doctors and nurses are getting all
> > that money.  They aren't.  It's the insurance companies and most
especially
> > the lawyers.
> >
> > Also, if you need emergency (immediate) care, remember that you are
paying
> > for not only your treatment but the treatment of several other people as
> > well. They are the people who don't use a primary care physician. When
they
> > need treatment for whatever they go straight to the immediate care
facility
> > (ER or whatever). They have no insurance even if they could afford it and
> no
> > savings. They know that the law says the facility cannot turn them away
and
> > that YOU will pay for them.
> >
> > That's how the politicians (mostly lawyers) solved the healthcare problem
> > the last time they touched it. IE they take the money out of your pocket
if
> > you are a hard working responsible citizen. That's also why a lot of us
are
> > scared as we wait to see what they've done to us this time!
> >
> > I saw a great bumper sticker the other day. "Please don't tell my family
> I'm
> > a lawyer. They think I'm a piano player in a whore house."
> >
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim
> >
> > On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Just got a bill for a 1 hour visit to an immediate care facility for
> > > diverticulitis. $4500. I questioned everything they did at the time and
> > > asked for cost (they had no idea) and they wondered why. This country
is
> > > broken.
> > >
> > > That is all.
> > >
> > > Ron

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jun  1 12:43:11 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:43:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BE lights
Message-ID: <0400B823B2EA469BBA68BEECEA86B852@Home>

In by BE kit, I found 10 outer light retaining rings of three different types, a lot of 2-adjuster buckets, and one inner ring for a 3-adjuster BE light bucket.  Anyone want to trade any of these extras for one 3-adjuster inner ring - Moss part #157-300; VB part #8-8324?

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Tue Jun  1 15:41:25 2010
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 17:41:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car check
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601C990@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Sorry Ron.

Just got back from there last night.

JohnD



Message: 2

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 12:34:02 -0700 (PDT)

From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>

Subject: [Spridgets] Car check request no LBC

To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>

Message-ID: <210470.45063.qm at web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii



Anyone near Petoskey, Michigan, who could go look at a car for me?
Non-LBC, but should be an easy check.

Thanks,

Ron

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  1 17:53:27 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 16:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone Want to try this with a Spridget?
Message-ID: <989052.66015.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Now that BP has squandered all our petroleum, we'll probably be looking for alternative fuel sources: http://www.eepybird.com/

Rick



Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun  1 18:28:37 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 19:28:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone Want to try this with a Spridget?
In-Reply-To: <989052.66015.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <989052.66015.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C05A5B5.6050604@justbrits.com>

er, Rick........

<< we'll probably be looking for alternative fuel sources: >>


would that come under the heading of:

"The Sweet STENCH of Success" ?????

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Tue Jun  1 19:33:47 2010
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 21:33:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
In-Reply-To: <001b01cb01ec$d7d98ea0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q>
References: <001b01cb01ec$d7d98ea0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q>
Message-ID: <4C05B4FB.2070408@verizon.net>

    I just purchased a Bugeye tonneau cover through 'topsonline.com'. It 
took a bit longer than I figured for delivery - about 5 weeks.

    Turns out it is a Robbins product, in their box with all their 
paperwork. The piece was shipped from 'Vic's Upholstery' with an address 
very near to Robbins'.

    The instructions clearly said that the turn fastener anchors were 
'installed', I assumed that would be to make the location of the other 
fasteners a bit easier. WRONG.

    After numerous communications with Doug Robbins, including faxing 
the (Robbins) instruction sheet back to him for review, I find out that;

             None of the 'fasteners' are 'installed' (contrary to their 
own instructions),
             All Robbins tops and tonneaus are to be installed by a 
recommended 'professional'.

    It took about two weeks of various e-mails and faxes to get to that 
point.

    In addition, the slots for the rear hold-downs (the metal bar sewn 
into the pocket) are cut wrong and Doug's response was "Well, sometimes 
things have to be modified to fit a particular car".
   
    Vic's response (he was copied on all the communications) was 
"________________".

    The tonneau is very well made and, after consulting with my 'local 
professional' I'm sure it will fit and look good. Of course at that 
'extra expense' not figured into the original project.

    Be careful out there,

                                                                         
   CB

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jun  1 20:14:57 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 22:14:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
In-Reply-To: <4C05B4FB.2070408@verizon.net>
References: <001b01cb01ec$d7d98ea0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q>
	<4C05B4FB.2070408@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <158A75AB-D308-4872-AE86-208BA4EDB234@snet.net>

I have ordered a number of tops and tonneaus from Robbins.

There products are well made but I too have found that their patterns  
contain some errors and Doug always has an excuse.

As for having to fit all of the fasteners, that's a good thing as it  
is only in that way that you can get a tight fit to the car.

Robbins makes some great product. With a tiny bit of effort, they  
could make some outstanding product.

Jay

On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Charley Braum <cbaustin at verizon.net> wrote:

>   I just purchased a Bugeye tonneau cover through 'topsonline.com'.  
> It took a bit longer than I figured for delivery - about 5 weeks.
>
>   Turns out it is a Robbins product, in their box with all their  
> paperwork. The piece was shipped from 'Vic's Upholstery' with an  
> address very near to Robbins'.
>
>   The instructions clearly said that the turn fastener anchors were  
> 'installed', I assumed that would be to make the location of the  
> other fasteners a bit easier. WRONG.
>
>   After numerous communications with Doug Robbins, including faxing  
> the (Robbins) instruction sheet back to him for review, I find out  
> that;
>
>            None of the 'fasteners' are 'installed' (contrary to  
> their own instructions),
>            All Robbins tops and tonneaus are to be installed by a  
> recommended 'professional'.
>
>   It took about two weeks of various e-mails and faxes to get to  
> that point.
>
>   In addition, the slots for the rear hold-downs (the metal bar sewn  
> into the pocket) are cut wrong and Doug's response was "Well,  
> sometimes things have to be modified to fit a particular car".
>     Vic's response (he was copied on all the communications) was  
> "________________".
>
>   The tonneau is very well made and, after consulting with my 'local  
> professional' I'm sure it will fit and look good. Of course at that  
> 'extra expense' not figured into the original project.
>
>   Be careful out there,

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jun  1 21:04:52 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:04:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BE wiring diagram
Message-ID: <0F00A5E44A1B4028A609FB0E784535C5@Home>

Sprite Wiring Diagram Bugeye MK1 Frogeye Bugeyed
Location: Port Angeles, WA

I just received a BE wiring diagram from this guy on eBay.  It is poorly organized and occasionally makes little sense.  It is on plain paper, not plasticized.  Don't buy it.

Michael Rowe

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun  1 21:28:44 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:28:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
In-Reply-To: <158A75AB-D308-4872-AE86-208BA4EDB234@snet.net>
References: <001b01cb01ec$d7d98ea0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q>
	<4C05B4FB.2070408@verizon.net>
	<158A75AB-D308-4872-AE86-208BA4EDB234@snet.net>
Message-ID: <4C05CFEC.3040104@justbrits.com>

<< ...and Doug always has an excuse. >>  [from Robbins]

Yep.

And lest you folks forget, I deal with a LOT of different
top and applications.

And a lot longer than most of youse<G> !

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun  2 08:57:02 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 10:57:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
Message-ID: <E3C4EEEC15B048C98F317CDEBF3027C2@Home>

>PB Blaster can eat engine seals, transmission seals and plastic cups! 

I just stumbled across this warning online.  Has anyone else had problems with PB Blaster on organic parts?  I have been cleaning up a salt-incrusted (dunked) outboard motor carb, and it clearly dissolves salt in addition to rust.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun  2 09:40:32 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 08:40:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <E3C4EEEC15B048C98F317CDEBF3027C2@Home>
References: <E3C4EEEC15B048C98F317CDEBF3027C2@Home>
Message-ID: <4C067B70.22069.5E26B3@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I've been using Kroil... does that have the same side effect ??

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 2 Jun 2010 at 10:57, Michael Rowe wrote:

> >PB Blaster can eat engine seals, transmission seals and plastic cups!

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  2 09:45:35 2010
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 08:45:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <E3C4EEEC15B048C98F317CDEBF3027C2@Home>
Message-ID: <377550.63302.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

PB Blaster it's GSIAC!  (good shit in a can)

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:


From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster



>PB Blaster can eat engine seals, transmission seals and plastic cups!

I just stumbled across this warning online.  Has anyone else had problems with
PB Blaster on organic parts?  I have been cleaning up a salt-incrusted
(dunked) outboard motor carb, and it clearly dissolves salt in addition to
rust.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 09:52:47 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:52:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <E3C4EEEC15B048C98F317CDEBF3027C2@Home>
References: <E3C4EEEC15B048C98F317CDEBF3027C2@Home>
Message-ID: <30947D1C-F49E-483C-991F-0AF2DCCD630F@comcast.net>

I used the better part of a gallon of the stuff on a frozen Jag engine  
without problem.  also using it to try to get the exhaust to come off..

Lester


On Jun 2, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:

>> PB Blaster can eat engine seals, transmission seals and plastic cups!
>
> I just stumbled across this warning online.  Has anyone else had  
> problems with PB Blaster on organic parts?  I have been cleaning up  
> a salt-incrusted (dunked) outboard motor carb, and it clearly  
> dissolves salt in addition to rust.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
> _______________________________________________
>
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun  2 10:03:00 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 12:03:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <4C067B70.22069.5E26B3@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <E3C4EEEC15B048C98F317CDEBF3027C2@Home>
	<4C067B70.22069.5E26B3@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <FFDA72CCAD71406FB5F875F0201F7ED3@Home>

> I've been using Kroil... does that have the same side effect ??

Don't know.  Others on the car forum discribing the problem suggested Kroil. 
I suppose it doesn't matter unless you spray large amounts on an organic 
seal or part.  Maybe I will spray some of each on a plastic cup.

I know that Ouzo (Greek retsina) disolves styrene cups left out overnight - 
worse than Tequilla!  ;-)

Michael Rowe 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun  2 11:04:23 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:04:23 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <FFDA72CCAD71406FB5F875F0201F7ED3@Home>
References: <E3C4EEEC15B048C98F317CDEBF3027C2@Home>,
	<4C067B70.22069.5E26B3@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<FFDA72CCAD71406FB5F875F0201F7ED3@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w12F5F557D76C8802D608E7B8D00@phx.gbl>

Oh, come one now! ... tequila kills worms, ... and who wants worms?
( Okay, so technically is is mescal that kills worms ... :) )

And, why is it that you 'want' to dissolve styrene cups anyway?!  :)


> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 12:03:00 -0400
>
>
> I know that Ouzo (Greek retsina) disolves styrene cups left out overnight -
> worse than Tequilla!  ;-)
>
> Michael Rowe
> _______________________________________________

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  2 11:47:09 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 10:47:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <377550.63302.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <880286.29024.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
 
"PB Blaster it's GSIAC!  (good shit in a can)"
 
May be until you use a great product like Kroil or Liquid Wrench

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Red Midget <redmidget72 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Red Midget <redmidget72 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
To: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Michael Rowe"
<mdrowe at optonline.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 8:45 AM


PB Blaster it's GSIAC!  (good shit in a can)

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:


From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster



>PB Blaster can eat engine seals, transmission seals and plastic cups!

I just stumbled across this warning online.  Has anyone else had problems
with
PB Blaster on organic parts?  I have been cleaning up a salt-incrusted
(dunked) outboard motor carb, and it clearly dissolves salt in addition to
rust.
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jun  2 13:17:14 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:17:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w12F5F557D76C8802D608E7B8D00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>

More importantly why would you leave it in the cup long enough to dissolve the cup?  You're supposed to drink it.

> 
> And, why is it that you 'want' to dissolve styrene cups anyway?!  :)
> 
> 
> > I know that Ouzo (Greek retsina) disolves styrene cups left out overnight -
> > worse than Tequilla!  ;-)

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  2 13:39:40 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 12:39:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
In-Reply-To: <4C05B4FB.2070408@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <354357.14287.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Charley,
 
This is kind of the way it goes with all the manufactured tops.
They usually do not put in the snaps.- Reason being not all are in the same
location.
They could have been moved or just a little different from the factory.
If all the snaps and fasteners were installed.
Most people would have a problem fitting the new top.
 
Vigil


--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Charley Braum <cbaustin at verizon.net> wrote:


From: Charley Braum <cbaustin at verizon.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
To: "Healey List" <healeys at autox.team.net>, "Spridgets List"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Cc: "Mark LaPierre" <lapierrem at sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:33 PM


   I just purchased a Bugeye tonneau cover through 'topsonline.com'. It took a
bit longer than I figured for delivery - about 5 weeks.

   Turns out it is a Robbins product, in their box with all their paperwork.
The piece was shipped from 'Vic's Upholstery' with an address very near to
Robbins'.

   The instructions clearly said that the turn fastener anchors were
'installed', I assumed that would be to make the location of the other
fasteners a bit easier. WRONG.

   After numerous communications with Doug Robbins, including faxing the
(Robbins) instruction sheet back to him for review, I find out that;

            None of the 'fasteners' are 'installed' (contrary to their own
instructions),
            All Robbins tops and tonneaus are to be installed by a recommended
'professional'.

   It took about two weeks of various e-mails and faxes to get to that point.

   In addition, the slots for the rear hold-downs (the metal bar sewn into the
pocket) are cut wrong and Doug's response was "Well, sometimes things have to
be modified to fit a particular car".
     Vic's response (he was copied on all the communications) was
"________________".

   The tonneau is very well made and, after consulting with my 'local
professional' I'm sure it will fit and look good. Of course at that 'extra
expense' not figured into the original project.

   Be careful out there,

                                                                          CB
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jun  2 13:52:32 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 12:52:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
Message-ID: <671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Even more important, why use a cup?

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct





________________________________


More importantly why would you leave it in the cup long enough to dissolve the cup?  You're supposed to drink it.

> 
> And, why is it that you 'want' to dissolve styrene cups anyway?!  :)
> 
> 
> > I know that Ouzo (Greek retsina) disolves styrene cups left out overnight -
> > worse than Tequilla!  ;-)

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 14:17:53 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:17:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
	<671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <45716712-FE77-4B45-99C2-875272E581F6@comcast.net>

Some sports are REALLY rough, why else?

Lester


On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Jay wrote:

> Even more important, why use a cup?
>
> jay fishbein
> wallingford, ct
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
>
> More importantly why would you leave it in the cup long enough to  
> dissolve the cup?  You're supposed to drink it.
>
>>
>> And, why is it that you 'want' to dissolve styrene cups anyway?!  :)
>>
>>
>>> I know that Ouzo (Greek retsina) disolves styrene cups left out  
>>> overnight -
>>> worse than Tequilla!  ;-)
> _______________________________________________
>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun  2 14:40:48 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 15:40:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
Message-ID: <4C06C1D0.4010203@justbrits.com>

<<More importantly why would you leave it in the cup long enough
to dissolve the cup? >>

Geesh, took somebody LONG enough !!!   LOL

<< You're supposed to drink it. >>

DOH !!!  er, or is it DUH !?!

LOL

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun  2 15:01:13 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:01:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <880286.29024.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <880286.29024.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C06C699.5010902@justbrits.com>

<< "PB Blaster it's GSIAC! (good shit in a can)"

May be until you use a great product like Kroil or Liquid Wrench >>

Or an even BETTER product Vigil, "Busty" <G><G><G> !!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 15:04:19 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:04:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
In-Reply-To: <4C05CFEC.3040104@justbrits.com>
References: <001b01cb01ec$d7d98ea0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q>
	<4C05B4FB.2070408@verizon.net>
	<158A75AB-D308-4872-AE86-208BA4EDB234@snet.net>
	<4C05CFEC.3040104@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4C06C753.8030106@comcast.net>

Amco
They are no longer around but snaps installed out of the box and they 
always fit perfect.
Do watch NOS Amco tops, they have shrunk and the stitching is rotten.
Ask me how I know?

-- 
Frank

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun  2 15:21:32 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:21:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
In-Reply-To: <158A75AB-D308-4872-AE86-208BA4EDB234@snet.net>
References: <001b01cb01ec$d7d98ea0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q>
	<4C05B4FB.2070408@verizon.net>
	<158A75AB-D308-4872-AE86-208BA4EDB234@snet.net>
Message-ID: <4C06CB5C.10801@justbrits.com>

<< Robbins makes some great product. With a tiny bit of effort, they could
make some outstanding product. >>

Agreed, Jay.

I have wondered for the past few years if they just had
"grown" TOO much [and, what 30 years ago?] TOO fast ??

Just heard from a buddy that is finishing a 442 ragtop and
he has exact same probs as the Spridget & Big Healey
worlds have experienced.  And I know [just remembered]
a chap that was finishing a '63 Impala ragtop a couple years
ago [YES, I was and AM jealous<G>] which same problem of
"overall length" - he said it was about 8 - 9 inches SHORT
[AIN'T gonna stretch one THAT far<G>].

At least "we" know it's not just the LBC world.

I might add that I have NEVER heard of anybody that called
them and received 'reasonable' satisfaction or "relief".

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 15:37:46 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:37:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <4C06C699.5010902@justbrits.com>
References: <880286.29024.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C06C699.5010902@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4C06CF2A.30007@comcast.net>

On 6/2/2010 5:01 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
> << "PB Blaster it's GSIAC! (good shit in a can)"
>
> May be until you use a great product like Kroil or Liquid Wrench >>
>
> Or an even BETTER product Vigil, "Busty" <G><G><G> !!!
>

Yeah! Great can, who cares what's inside it :)
-- 
Frank

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  2 16:13:06 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:13:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
In-Reply-To: <4C06C753.8030106@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <88533.8765.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Frank,
 
AMCO sold out to a company that was making them in the Midwest,
and has been sold again to a company on the East Coast. 
Fit and quality seem to be the same as the original, which were always the
most user-friendly for the owner-installer.
The full line is available again, after having been a problem several years
ago.
They now offer a StayFast canvas option as well. 
I am not sure of the new company name -  Sorry - lost track at the Midwest.
 
Sorry i can not help more. 
 
Vigil

--- On Wed, 6/2/10, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
To: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Healey List"
<healeys at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 2:04 PM


Amco
They are no longer around but snaps installed out of the box and they always
fit perfect.
Do watch NOS Amco tops, they have shrunk and the stitching is rotten.
Ask me how I know?

-- Frank
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From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun  2 16:34:10 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:34:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <4C06CF2A.30007@comcast.net>
References: <880286.29024.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C06C699.5010902@justbrits.com> <4C06CF2A.30007@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C06DC62.6010205@justbrits.com>

*I wrote:*
<< Or an even BETTER product Vigil, "Busty" <G><G><G> !!! >>

*To which Frank replied:*

<< Yeah! Great can, who cares what's inside it :) >>

I "know" YOU do Frank, otherwise since you first tried it
we have seen each other a couple time and YOU would have
"tried" to shove a can up my A** !!!

LMAO !!

'Course you ordering in a couple of times since then would
have 'nothing' to do with it, right ??   LOL

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 16:58:53 2010
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 17:58:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
In-Reply-To: <88533.8765.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4C06C753.8030106@comcast.net>
	<88533.8765.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilPMTMUl_s-sI5EpUwI05dniofghonudc1163nJ@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like this is the place:

http://www.ezonauto.com/

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:13 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Frank,
>
> AMCO sold out to a company that was making them in the Midwest,
> and has been sold again to a company on the East Coast.
> Fit and quality seem to be the same as the original, which were always the
> most user-friendly for the owner-installer.
> The full line is available again, after having been a problem several years
> ago.
> They now offer a StayFast canvas option as well.
> I am not sure of the new company name -  Sorry - lost track at the Midwest.
>
> Sorry i can not help more.
>
> Vigil

From lists at dinospider.com  Wed Jun  2 17:10:40 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:10:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <4C06DC62.6010205@justbrits.com>
References: <880286.29024.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C06C699.5010902@justbrits.com> <4C06CF2A.30007@comcast.net>
	<4C06DC62.6010205@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4C06E4F0.9010002@dinospider.com>

   you guys have really weird sex lives...

     :)

    Mike

On 06/02/2010 03:34 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
>
> I "know" YOU do Frank, otherwise since you first tried it
> we have seen each other a couple time and YOU would have
> "tried" to shove a can up my A** !!!
>
> LMAO !!
>
> 'Course you ordering in a couple of times since then would
> have 'nothing' to do with it, right ??   LOL
>
> Ed

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun  2 17:40:49 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:40:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] New Top Fitment
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilPMTMUl_s-sI5EpUwI05dniofghonudc1163nJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C06C753.8030106@comcast.net>
	<88533.8765.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTilPMTMUl_s-sI5EpUwI05dniofghonudc1163nJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C06EC01.3040307@comcast.net>

On 6/2/2010 6:58 PM, Greg Gowins wrote:
> Looks like this is the place:
>
> http://www.ezonauto.com/
>

>> AMCO sold out to a company that was making them in the Midwest,
>> and has been sold again to a company on the East Coast.

They are great tops. I have used them with no problems.
So it's Amco reborn, that's why they fit right.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 18:10:22 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:10:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable
Message-ID: <AANLkTilHjvtRwvQDxLpRpPomvv1Use1X28REB13IN5qD@mail.gmail.com>

I am in need of a speedo cable, for a Stewart Warner bicycle speedometer. I
am wondering if I could take an old Spridget cable, cut it to length, and
grind some flats on one end to get it to fit into the unit.
What says the list?

Brad

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Jun  2 18:46:54 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:46:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilHjvtRwvQDxLpRpPomvv1Use1X28REB13IN5qD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilHjvtRwvQDxLpRpPomvv1Use1X28REB13IN5qD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64A8C9762B50481DB518CE2CB37E2DB2@RickPC>

Brad,

Should work fine for bicycle use.

Rick

--
ANNIE GREENSPRINGS 2010

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Yahoo Spridget list" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 8:10 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable


>I am in need of a speedo cable, for a Stewart Warner bicycle speedometer. I
> am wondering if I could take an old Spridget cable, cut it to length, and
> grind some flats on one end to get it to fit into the unit.
> What says the list?
>
> Brad
>
> -- 
> DON JULIO 1942

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Wed Jun  2 19:07:29 2010
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:07:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
Message-ID: <4C070051.2040203@verizon.net>

    Another twist in the mix is the intermediate shop noted in my 
earlier e-mail as 'Vic's Upholstery'.

    The Robbins top came directly from them (Vic's) in a Robbins box 
with a Robbins warranty sheet and Robbins installation instruction sheet.

    Now for the hook - there was an e-mail communication between Robbins 
and Vic's (copied to me) indicating that Vic's is somehow involved with 
EZ-ON as well.

    I don't have that e-mail with me (out of town until this weekend). I 
don't know if Vic's is a shipping house (Vic's Upholstery is the name on 
the shipping label) but I got the impression (perhaps unfounded) that 
Vic's assembles the pieces to Robbins / EZ ON specs and ships them on to 
the end-user.

    At any rate, I was assured by Doug Robbins that under NO 
circumstances do they think any of us are qualified to install their 
products. There was a disclaimer page that was not added to my shipment 
indicating that. This is repeated in a short paragraph on the warranty 
card. Doug's specific comment was that they ALWAYS recommend, if not 
insist, that their products be 'professionally installed'.

    You can search Robbins' web-site for 'approved' installers. I wonder 
if EZ-ON has the same.

    Sorry for being long-winded (hope the EZ-ON connection to Vic's is 
not a downer to anyone), regards,

                                                                         
      CB

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun  2 19:07:48 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:07:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Speedo Cable
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilHjvtRwvQDxLpRpPomvv1Use1X28REB13IN5qD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilHjvtRwvQDxLpRpPomvv1Use1X28REB13IN5qD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C070064.8050702@justbrits.com>

Core the SAME diameter, Brad??

DOH ???

LOL

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  2 19:32:24 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 18:32:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Way ot - need QA people in UK and US
Message-ID: <662241.9492.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sorry to bomb, but if anyone knows (or is) a quality control analyst or inspector to work 3 to 6 months in Rockford IL or Claverham UK, please contact me. Need is immediate!!! Aerospace background a huge plus, but not mandatory.

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  2 19:35:39 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 18:35:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Way ot - need QA people in UK and US
Message-ID: <305492.10602.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I should have mentioned I need at least 7 people.

On Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 8:32 PM CDT Ron Soave wrote:

>Sorry to bomb, but if anyone knows (or is) a quality control analyst or inspector to work 3 to 6 months in Rockford IL or Claverham UK, please contact me. Need is immediate!!! Aerospace background a huge plus, but not mandatory.
>
>Ron

From twobees at sprynet.com  Wed Jun  2 20:51:05 2010
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 22:51:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: PB Blaster
Message-ID: <007601cb02c7$9c77b770$6501a8c0@normoffice>

Michael, et al:

" I know that Ouzo (Greek retsina) disolves styrene cups left out overnight
- worse than Tequilla!"

FYI, retsina is a Greek wine flavored with pine resin.  Definitely an
acquired taste,  Alcohol content is about 14%.

Ouzo is an Anis-flavored clear aperitif.  It turns white with the addition
of water & has an alc. content of 45%.  That's what I'm drinking right now -
10:49 PM.

Kali nichta, y'all!

Norm "the Greek"

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 20:54:25 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:54:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <4C06E4F0.9010002@dinospider.com>
References: <880286.29024.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C06C699.5010902@justbrits.com> <4C06CF2A.30007@comcast.net>
	<4C06DC62.6010205@justbrits.com> <4C06E4F0.9010002@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_UzDjWyded6_Y03zNQPRtzcPPuNzNu3susXkk@mail.gmail.com>

Pant! Pant!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:10 PM, Mike Rambour <lists at dinospider.com> wrote:

>  you guys have really weird sex lives...
>
>    :)
>
>   Mike
>
> On 06/02/2010 03:34 PM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote:
>
>>
>> I "know" YOU do Frank, otherwise since you first tried it
>> we have seen each other a couple time and YOU would have
>> "tried" to shove a can up my A** !!!
>>
>> LMAO !!
>>
>> 'Course you ordering in a couple of times since then would
>> have 'nothing' to do with it, right ??   LOL
>>
>> Ed
>>
> _______________________________________________

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  2 21:11:23 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 21:11:23 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <007601cb02c7$9c77b770$6501a8c0@normoffice>
References: <007601cb02c7$9c77b770$6501a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik0YHAwYSJmmrIMkb1O31GB_HXBszAnlgedHkMY@mail.gmail.com>

Gasoline melts styrofoam into a Napalm-like gel goop that is very
sticky and flammable.
I do not suggest trying to put gasoline into a styrofoam container.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun  3 06:58:46 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:58:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Re.: PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <007601cb02c7$9c77b770$6501a8c0@normoffice>
References: <007601cb02c7$9c77b770$6501a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w139A4D3AF1FCF2EAD767CCB8D10@phx.gbl>

>> Ouzo is an Anis-flavored clear aperitif.
Oh gawd!  Don't tell ED, or you know where he's going to want to put it!!!

If I remember correctly, when drinking it out of the bottle, if you miss your
mouth and liberally spill it on your leather jacket, the leather will change
from soft to approaching the texture of panelboard.
Ah, to be young and foolish again.  I'm not young anymore.

> From: twobees at sprynet.com
>
> Michael, et al:
>
> " I know that Ouzo (Greek retsina) disolves styrene cups left out overnight
> - worse than Tequilla!"
>
> FYI, retsina is a Greek wine flavored with pine resin.  Definitely an
> acquired taste,  Alcohol content is about 14%.
>
> Ouzo is an Anis-flavored clear aperitif.  It turns white with the addition
> of water & has an alc. content of 45%.  That's what I'm drinking right now
-
> 10:49 PM.
>
> Kali nichta, y'all!
>
> Norm "the Greek"
> _______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun  3 07:10:27 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:10:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <45716712-FE77-4B45-99C2-875272E581F6@comcast.net>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>,
	<671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<45716712-FE77-4B45-99C2-875272E581F6@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl>

So ... how does soaking your parts in ouzo and wearing a dissolving cup help?
:)

RD

> Some sports are REALLY rough, why else?
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Jay wrote:
>
> > Even more important, why use a cup?
> >
> > jay fishbein
> > wallingford, ct
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> > More importantly why would you leave it in the cup long enough to
> > dissolve the cup?  You're supposed to drink it.
> >
> >>
> >> And, why is it that you 'want' to dissolve styrene cups anyway?!  :)
> >>
> >>
> >>> I know that Ouzo (Greek retsina) disolves styrene cups left out
> >>> overnight -
> >>> worse than Tequilla!  ;-)
> > _______________________________________________

From bkitterer at me.com  Thu Jun  3 07:57:17 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:57:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
In-Reply-To: <4C070051.2040203@verizon.net>
References: <4C070051.2040203@verizon.net>
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Robbins has been around since the 1950's or even the 1940's.  They have always built excellent quality tops in their plant in the greater LA area (have forgotten the location) including those sold by MG Mitten years back.  Over the years I did a number of replacements from MG Mitten all of which were great fits.  That said I was at Robbin's factory about ten years ago and had similar problems with both a top and tonnue (sp) cover.  They built me three tops none of which fitted and the  tonnue (sp) which did not fit even after taking the measurements from my car.  I was in the factory with Doug and all their patterns are on mylar and have been for many years so there is no sensible reason that their excellent tops do not fit but they do not.  My impression was that they were geared to show cars which were also trailer queens.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage

On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Charley Braum wrote:

>   Another twist in the mix is the intermediate shop noted in my earlier e-mail as 'Vic's Upholstery'.
> 
>   The Robbins top came directly from them (Vic's) in a Robbins box with a Robbins warranty sheet and Robbins installation instruction sheet.
> 
>   Now for the hook - there was an e-mail communication between Robbins and Vic's (copied to me) indicating that Vic's is somehow involved with EZ-ON as well.
> 
>   I don't have that e-mail with me (out of town until this weekend). I don't know if Vic's is a shipping house (Vic's Upholstery is the name on the shipping label) but I got the impression (perhaps unfounded) that Vic's assembles the pieces to Robbins / EZ ON specs and ships them on to the end-user.
> 
>   At any rate, I was assured by Doug Robbins that under NO circumstances do they think any of us are qualified to install their products. There was a disclaimer page that was not added to my shipment indicating that. This is repeated in a short paragraph on the warranty card. Doug's specific comment was that they ALWAYS recommend, if not insist, that their products be 'professionally installed'.
> 
>   You can search Robbins' web-site for 'approved' installers. I wonder if EZ-ON has the same.
> 
>   Sorry for being long-winded (hope the EZ-ON connection to Vic's is not a downer to anyone), regards,
> 
>                                                                             CB
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun  3 08:17:43 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 10:17:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
	<671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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	<BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl>
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Does anyone keep records of the longest off-topic discussion started by an 
on-topic question?  I am a relative newbie, but I seem to be doing pretty 
well so far.  I guess all one really has to do is mention Tequila, which I 
suspect has happened before.

Michael Rowe 

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun  3 08:43:56 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <B9C31E1720DC4B04B6E8BCD2D8E369CB@Home>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
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The longest record of anything on this list is held by Wrong Way Feldman aka Captain Bob.

One year Mark B noted that 25% of all posts were submitted by "one person".

 
You're too new to the list to remember his posts that rivaled the length of NASA white papers on building the shuttle.

jay




________________________________
From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>

Does anyone keep records of the longest off-topic discussion started by an on-topic question?

From lists at dinospider.com  Thu Jun  3 09:06:39 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 08:06:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <B9C31E1720DC4B04B6E8BCD2D8E369CB@Home>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
	<671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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  Easy longest has to be Cats...

On 06/03/2010 07:17 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:
> Does anyone keep records of the longest off-topic discussion started 
> by an on-topic question?  I am a relative newbie, but I seem to be 
> doing pretty well so far.  I guess all one really has to do is mention 
> Tequila, which I suspect has happened before.
>
> Michael Rowe __

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 09:19:29 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:19:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <663429.11199.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
	<671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<45716712-FE77-4B45-99C2-875272E581F6@comcast.net>
	<BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl>
	<B9C31E1720DC4B04B6E8BCD2D8E369CB@Home>
	<663429.11199.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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I still think Frank took a trip and made Montana Bob an offer(to stop
posting) he couldn't refuse.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 09:31:16 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:31:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
In-Reply-To: <6586EFD9-7A30-497C-90F1-70ADE683F491@me.com>
References: <4C070051.2040203@verizon.net>
	<6586EFD9-7A30-497C-90F1-70ADE683F491@me.com>
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Interesting observation, Bob.  I wonder if there is variance in the bodies
of our Spridgets??  That is other than model to model...    I wonder how
exacting the construction standards were and how accurate the jigs were?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:

> Robbins has been around since the 1950's or even the 1940's.  They have
> always built excellent quality tops in their plant in the greater LA area
> (have forgotten the location) including those sold by MG Mitten years back.
>  Over the years I did a number of replacements from MG Mitten all of which
> were great fits.  That said I was at Robbin's factory about ten years ago
> and had similar problems with both a top and tonnue (sp) cover.  They built
> me three tops none of which fitted and the  tonnue (sp) which did not fit
> even after taking the measurements from my car.  I was in the factory with
> Doug and all their patterns are on mylar and have been for many years so
> there is no sensible reason that their excellent tops do not fit but they
do
> not.  My impression was that they were geared to show cars which were also
> trailer queens.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
> 2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage
>
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Charley Braum wrote:
>
> >   Another twist in the mix is the intermediate shop noted in my earlier
> e-mail as 'Vic's Upholstery'.
> >
> >   The Robbins top came directly from them (Vic's) in a Robbins box with a
> Robbins warranty sheet and Robbins installation instruction sheet.
> >
> >   Now for the hook - there was an e-mail communication between Robbins
> and Vic's (copied to me) indicating that Vic's is somehow involved with
> EZ-ON as well.
> >
> >   I don't have that e-mail with me (out of town until this weekend). I
> don't know if Vic's is a shipping house (Vic's Upholstery is the name on
the
> shipping label) but I got the impression (perhaps unfounded) that Vic's
> assembles the pieces to Robbins / EZ ON specs and ships them on to the
> end-user.
> >
> >   At any rate, I was assured by Doug Robbins that under NO circumstances
> do they think any of us are qualified to install their products. There was
a
> disclaimer page that was not added to my shipment indicating that. This is
> repeated in a short paragraph on the warranty card. Doug's specific comment
> was that they ALWAYS recommend, if not insist, that their products be
> 'professionally installed'.
> >
> >   You can search Robbins' web-site for 'approved' installers. I wonder if
> EZ-ON has the same.
> >
> >   Sorry for being long-winded (hope the EZ-ON connection to Vic's is not
> a downer to anyone), regards,
> >
> >
>   CB
> > _______________________________________________
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Thu Jun  3 09:31:47 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark Endicott)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:31:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster  Longest Thread
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01><671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><45716712-FE77-4B45-99C2-875272E581F6@comcast.net><BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl><B9C31E1720DC4B04B6E8BCD2D8E369CB@Home>
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Don't forget Montana Bob!




>  Easy longest has to be Cats...

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun  3 09:37:01 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:37:01 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <B9C31E1720DC4B04B6E8BCD2D8E369CB@Home>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>,
	<671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
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>> I guess all one really has to do is mention Tequila

Well, supplying it would be even better!  I'll give you my mailing address
off-line.  ;)
Robert Duquette

Ottawa ON Canada

1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )

1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )

1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen
)http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg



> Does anyone keep records of the longest off-topic discussion started by an
> on-topic question?  I am a relative newbie, but I seem to be doing pretty
> well so far.  I guess all one really has to do is mention Tequila, which I
> suspect has happened before.
>
> Michael Rowe
> _______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun  3 09:52:44 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:52:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
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References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>,
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	<BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl>,
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	<663429.11199.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Interesting story:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Corrigan

RD

>
> The longest record of anything on this list is held by Wrong Way Feldman aka
Captain Bob.
>
> One year Mark B noted that 25% of all posts were submitted by "one person".
>
>
> You're too new to the list to remember his posts that rivaled the length of
NASA white papers on building the shuttle.
>
> jay
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
>
> Does anyone keep records of the longest off-topic discussion started by an
on-topic question?
> _______________________________________________

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun  3 10:13:34 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:13:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7UMWrc-lXtJgC5CFHivFl7TKSl_QYP2Phzl1C@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C070051.2040203@verizon.net>
	<6586EFD9-7A30-497C-90F1-70ADE683F491@me.com>
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Message-ID: <303123.94194.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I have never "bought-in" to the belief of some that there were all sorts of variations to these cars. Could the paints vary, sure. But these weren't cottage built cars where they used certain Lucas parts one day and different ones the next, and they weren't hand-forming body panels, and so-on.

Specifically, as regards the current topic, I would agree that mounting holes for snaps and the chrome fixtures on the rear might have been off slightly depending upon where the pattern or jig to punch them was lined-up, but don't believe as Doug Robbins personally suggested to me that in the case of the chrome deck mounts might have varied as much as inches. 

btw, factory soft-goods, i.e. period NOS tops and tonneaus were supplied with snaps fitted at the factory.

jay fishbein

wallingford, ct




________________________________
From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 11:31:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON

Interesting observation, Bob.  I wonder if there is variance in the bodies
of our Spridgets??  That is other than model to model...    I wonder how
exacting the construction standards were and how accurate the jigs were?

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jun  3 10:21:02 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:21:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <4C07C4FF.1020806@dinospider.com>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
	<671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<45716712-FE77-4B45-99C2-875272E581F6@comcast.net>
	<BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl>
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	<4C07C4FF.1020806@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <553AAEF2-B521-4AA9-BF24-29B200D0530C@comcast.net>

Just do a search on "wheel chocks"  to find out about cat threads..   
and I'm too new to know of Montana Bob and I've been here for over 6  
years...

Lester


On Jun 3, 2010, at 10:06 AM, Mike Rambour wrote:

> Easy longest has to be Cats...
>
> On 06/03/2010 07:17 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:
>> Does anyone keep records of the longest off-topic discussion  
>> started by an on-topic question?  I am a relative newbie, but I  
>> seem to be doing pretty well so far.  I guess all one really has to  
>> do is mention Tequila, which I suspect has happened before.
>>
>> Michael Rowe __
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jun  3 10:22:12 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:22:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>,
	<671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<45716712-FE77-4B45-99C2-875272E581F6@comcast.net>
	<BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5A3BBB05-DDDF-4FD6-BD3C-67BE91005DC2@comcast.net>

Pfffttt... it helps you appreciate how good Remy Martin XO Cognac is.

Lester


On Jun 3, 2010, at 8:10 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> <robertduquette at sympatico.ca 
 > wrote:

> So ... how does soaking your parts in ouzo and wearing a dissolving  
> cup help?
> :)
>
> RD
>
>> Some sports are REALLY rough, why else?
>>
>> Lester
>>
>>
>> On Jun 2, 2010, at 2:52 PM, Jay wrote:
>>
>>> Even more important, why use a cup?
>>>
>>> jay fishbein
>>> wallingford, ct

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun  3 10:35:12 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 12:35:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Headlight buckets
Message-ID: <A04447195048420492E7ECDC188D81A9@Home>

My 2-adjuster headlight buckets have a variety of nonsymmetrical holes in them, with large holes in the 1/3rd positions, while the SB fender and the rubber seals I am looking at are symmetrical, with the large holes at 9, 12, and 3 o'clock.  The fiberglass BE has no holes as yet. 

 How should these buckets be oriented?  It seems to me that the adjusters would work best at 12 and 9 o'clock, but that places other things at  strange angles.  Keep in mind that I am not at all sure that all these buckets came from a Spridget.  I think the 3-adjuster buckets came from a BE for sure, and their holes are quite different.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  3 10:35:52 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:35:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
In-Reply-To: <6586EFD9-7A30-497C-90F1-70ADE683F491@me.com>
Message-ID: <245845.89214.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Bob,
 
I agree with what you wrote - I used the MG mitten tops several times - great
fit.
Now i drive a Morris Minor and the tops are made from ever-flex vinyl.
They seem to charge a lot more here then in the UK -
Usually enough to cover the postage and get a few beers. The difference is the
fit.
The installers charge about another $200 dollars on my Morris.
It took them 3 - 4 hours - to R & R the top. Glad i paid some one.
My MG attached different & really was not that hard to replace.
So i did it myself - I did have to stretch the top a little.
When i parked the car i always put the top up -
The first one i left it down and it left a crease in the canvas.
This is where the top finally failed - it also made a baggy spot in the top.
You have all seen them flapping in the wind on the freeway.
 
 
Vigil
 

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:


From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 6:57 AM


Robbins has been around since the 1950's or even the 1940's.  They have always
built excellent quality tops in their plant in the greater LA area (have
forgotten the location) including those sold by MG Mitten years back.  Over
the years I did a number of replacements from MG Mitten all of which were
great fits.  That said I was at Robbin's factory about ten years ago and had
similar problems with both a top and tonnue (sp) cover.  They built me three
tops none of which fitted and the  tonnue (sp) which did not fit even after
taking the measurements from my car.  I was in the factory with Doug and all
their patterns are on mylar and have been for many years so there is no
sensible reason that their excellent tops do not fit but they do not.  My
impression was that they were geared to show cars which were also trailer
queens.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage

On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Charley Braum wrote:

>   Another twist in the mix is the intermediate shop noted in my earlier
e-mail as 'Vic's Upholstery'.
>
>   The Robbins top came directly from them (Vic's) in a Robbins box with a
Robbins warranty sheet and Robbins installation instruction sheet.
>
>   Now for the hook - there was an e-mail communication between Robbins and
Vic's (copied to me) indicating that Vic's is somehow involved with EZ-ON as
well.
>
>   I don't have that e-mail with me (out of town until this weekend). I don't
know if Vic's is a shipping house (Vic's Upholstery is the name on the
shipping label) but I got the impression (perhaps unfounded) that Vic's
assembles the pieces to Robbins / EZ ON specs and ships them on to the
end-user.
>
>   At any rate, I was assured by Doug Robbins that under NO circumstances do
they think any of us are qualified to install their products. There was a
disclaimer page that was not added to my shipment indicating that. This is
repeated in a short paragraph on the warranty card. Doug's specific comment
was that they ALWAYS recommend, if not insist, that their products be
'professionally installed'.
>
>   You can search Robbins' web-site for 'approved' installers. I wonder if
EZ-ON has the same.
>
>   Sorry for being long-winded (hope the EZ-ON connection to Vic's is not a
downer to anyone), regards,
>
>                                                                         
   CB
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun  3 10:42:52 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 09:42:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <17CB040642F14ACE804A7AE185F7114B@Home>
References: <20100602191714.O517E.49389.root@cdptpa-web26-z01>
	<671527.48594.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<45716712-FE77-4B45-99C2-875272E581F6@comcast.net>
	<BAY147-w528B793F2625D39EE447FBB8D10@phx.gbl>
	<B9C31E1720DC4B04B6E8BCD2D8E369CB@Home>
	<663429.11199.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<17CB040642F14ACE804A7AE185F7114B@Home>
Message-ID: <410533.78081.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If you have the time, like a week, up the memory in your computer and do a search of the archives.

 jay fishbein

wallingford, ct




________________________________

Clearly I do not understand the magnitude of this challenge.

Michael Rowe

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] PB Blaster


> The longest record of anything on this list is held by Wrong Way Feldman aka Captain Bob.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun  3 11:16:37 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:16:37 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
Message-ID: <992e0.5814ea17.39393d75@aol.com>

What does Busty do to cups?
 
In a message dated 02/06/2010 22:52:40 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

"Busty"

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun  3 11:21:05 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:21:05 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Headlight buckets
In-Reply-To: <A04447195048420492E7ECDC188D81A9@Home>
References: <A04447195048420492E7ECDC188D81A9@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w2811C6BD6A88CAF820A490B8D10@phx.gbl>

>> > How should these buckets be oriented?
There's your problem.  They shouldn't be oriental buckets.  Should be British.
Strange that Frank missed this one?  He must be working for a living!  :)

RD

>
> My 2-adjuster headlight buckets have a variety of nonsymmetrical holes in
them, with large holes in the 1/3rd positions, while the SB fender and the
rubber seals I am looking at are symmetrical, with the large holes at 9, 12,
and 3 o'clock.  The fiberglass BE has no holes as yet.
>
>  How should these buckets be oriented?  It seems to me that the adjusters
would work best at 12 and 9 o'clock, but that places other things at  strange
angles.  Keep in mind that I am not at all sure that all these buckets came
from a Spridget.  I think the 3-adjuster buckets came from a BE for sure, and
their holes are quite different.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> _______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun  3 11:24:22 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:24:22 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
Message-ID: <9996d.168a83ae.39393f46@aol.com>

A professional is a person who gets paid for working.  So if you pay a  
Spridget buddy to fit the top aren't they are a professional?
 
In a message dated 03/06/2010 02:21:34 GMT Daylight Time,  
cbaustin at verizon.net writes:

At any  rate, I was assured by Doug Robbins that under NO 
circumstances do they  think any of us are qualified to install their 
products. There was a  disclaimer page that was not added to my shipment 
indicating that. This is  repeated in a short paragraph on the warranty 
card. Doug's specific  comment was that they ALWAYS recommend, if not 
insist, that their products  be 'professionally installed'.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun  3 11:30:20 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:30:20 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
Message-ID: <99ea7.6ff1ba1.393940ac@aol.com>

No BUT church keys and gun threads were a lot longer.
 
In a message dated 03/06/2010 15:38:33 GMT Daylight Time,  
mdrowe at optonline.net writes:

Does  anyone keep records of the longest off-topic discussion started by an 
 
on-topic question?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun  3 11:32:34 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:32:34 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
Message-ID: <9a083.6feb49ff.39394132@aol.com>

I think the variance is introduced with bodywork repairs over the years and 
 a change in windshield.  The cars must have some variance otherwise they  
wouldn't make a range of shims for the windshield.
 
 
In a message dated 03/06/2010 17:38:40 GMT Daylight Time,  
jfishbein at snet.net writes:

I have  never "bought-in" to the belief of some that there were all sorts 
of  variations to these cars. Could the paints vary, sure. But these weren't  
cottage built cars where they used certain Lucas parts one day and 
different  ones the next, and they weren't hand-forming body panels, and  so-on.

Specifically, as regards the current topic, I would agree that  mounting 
holes for snaps and the chrome fixtures on the rear might have been  off 
slightly depending upon where the pattern or jig to punch them was  lined-up, but 
don't believe as Doug Robbins personally suggested to me that in  the case 
of the chrome deck mounts might have varied as much as inches.  

btw, factory soft-goods, i.e. period NOS tops and tonneaus were  supplied 
with snaps fitted at the factory.

jay  fishbein

wallingford, ct

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun  3 11:33:18 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:33:18 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
Message-ID: <9a11b.5e60b696.3939415e@aol.com>

Stop the madness haven't you people got cars to work on - anyone have the  
original to re-post?
 
In a message dated 03/06/2010 17:41:17 GMT Daylight Time,  
oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes:

Montana  Bob 

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun  3 11:49:01 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:49:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
In-Reply-To: <9a083.6feb49ff.39394132@aol.com>
References: <9a083.6feb49ff.39394132@aol.com>
Message-ID: <777078.13880.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

In my case, the Robbins top for my Mk II was made with the rear bars too close together, so it wasn't a front-to-back spacing problem but the distance between the two chrome deck mounts. I don't believe as Doug suggested that they differed from car to car or that mine were moved.

 jay




________________________________
From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
To: jfishbein at snet.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 1:32:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON

I think the variance is introduced with bodywork repairs over the years and 
a change in windshield.  The cars must have some variance otherwise they 
wouldn't make a range of shims for the windshield.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Jun  3 11:49:49 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:49:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <992e0.5814ea17.39393d75@aol.com>
References: <992e0.5814ea17.39393d75@aol.com>
Message-ID: <2324C872-4962-4984-83EB-D51AE964F771@comcast.net>

That is item specific..

One type of cup gets filled up and doesn't leak except over the top  
(If you're lucky) the other type fills up and after a while it may  
leak too..

Lester

.. well you asked..


On Jun 3, 2010, at 12:16 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> What does Busty do to cups?
>
> In a message dated 02/06/2010 22:52:40 GMT Daylight Time,
> spritenut at comcast.net writes:
>
> "Busty"
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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun  3 12:00:32 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 13:00:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Headlight buckets
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w2811C6BD6A88CAF820A490B8D10@phx.gbl>
References: <A04447195048420492E7ECDC188D81A9@Home>
	<BAY147-w2811C6BD6A88CAF820A490B8D10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C07EDC0.6030208@justbrits.com>

<< He must be working for a living! >>

Can't be, RD !!  FAR too busy bit*hing about Moss and
rain in Penciltucky !!!!!   <smirk>   Besides, it's been SO
long since he DID 'pound a nail', he's forgotten how !!
LOL [and here comes S.A.'ed remark about nail guns!!] !!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 12:05:52 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:05:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster
In-Reply-To: <992e0.5814ea17.39393d75@aol.com>
References: <992e0.5814ea17.39393d75@aol.com>
Message-ID: <-8943456321095904592@unknownmsgid>

> What does Busty do to cups?

Well, the cups on the label are pretty full...
David L

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  3 12:07:18 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:07:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimylH7c0BXbzvtAfJCNqg3J_MAACM2J2N6WicDj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <943529.82439.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Lin,
Here is a bonnet just like Frank's. Better be sitting down before you click on the link.
http://tinyurl.com/3y6fp42
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sat, 5/29/10, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
Cool to know John, I'm glad you bought one of Alan's, I may do the same if I don't find a bonnet like Frank's Speedwell in the not so distant future ; )

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun  3 12:35:21 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 18:35:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Headlight buckets
In-Reply-To: <4C07EDC0.6030208@justbrits.com>
References: <A04447195048420492E7ECDC188D81A9@Home>,
	<BAY147-w2811C6BD6A88CAF820A490B8D10@phx.gbl>,
	<4C07EDC0.6030208@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w602FF18696E4A7AF8501B1B8D10@phx.gbl>

Well, he might be partying with Bruce, then ...


> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:00:32 -0500
> From: shop at justbrits.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Headlight buckets
>
> << He must be working for a living! >>
>
> Can't be, RD !!  FAR too busy bit*hing about Moss and
> rain in Penciltucky !!!!!   <smirk>   Besides, it's been SO
> long since he DID 'pound a nail', he's forgotten how !!
> LOL [and here comes S.A.'ed remark about nail guns!!] !!
>
> Ed

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 12:40:31 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 13:40:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <943529.82439.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTimylH7c0BXbzvtAfJCNqg3J_MAACM2J2N6WicDj@mail.gmail.com>
	<943529.82439.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil8g6oXTbWk-SMlz-jWw3EhC7wgq8HSW3dfpmW-@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmm, sold by Jahimiak... Sounds familiar somehow ;-)
David L

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:07 PM, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Lin,
> Here is a bonnet just like Frank's. Better be sitting down before you click on the link.
> http://tinyurl.com/3y6fp42

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 12:58:23 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:58:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood Hinge
Message-ID: <AANLkTintAE1YwkgoSU3AJCAXJZwbF5qrEDgZOjyH_uh_@mail.gmail.com>

I am at the end of my rope in terms of getting my hinge. . . passengers side
behind the radio. .  back in place.

I have tried small bolts to line it up, pics that fit in the hole to try and
get it lined up. .  the whole deal.

Anyone have a creative idea on this?

Kirk

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  3 13:36:27 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:36:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood Hinge
Message-ID: <170961.89083.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Sounds like you're becoming UNHINGED! Sorry, couldn't resist. Skip J. BE 37190

From adrianjones747 at earthlink.net  Thu Jun  3 13:37:42 2010
From: adrianjones747 at earthlink.net (Adrian Jones)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:37:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Montana Bob
Message-ID: <000401cb0354$3c1ab2f0$b45018d0$@net>

I've been on the list for years but don't remember  Montana Bob.

 

Every now and then his name pops up - what was it all about?

From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 15:02:00 2010
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:02:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] carpet glue
Message-ID: <10BECA5735294CBF9E0919D8DE2A7E85@Inspiron>

I'm going to help a friend install a carpet kit in his LBC this weekend. I
have always used Lepages contact cement, it stinks but holds great.The down
side is if you make a mistake when fitting the piece, it can sometime be a
bear to re-adjust. I was looking at Barney Gaylord's site, one of the guy's
was using white carpet cement from Home Depot, the cost was $14.00 a gallon,
it looked to be forgiving if you didn't get the piece right the first time.

Has anyone else used carpet white carpet cement?
Thanks for any info

Greg Higgins
63sprite

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 15:26:23 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:26:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Montana Bob
In-Reply-To: <000401cb0354$3c1ab2f0$b45018d0$@net>
References: <000401cb0354$3c1ab2f0$b45018d0$@net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikDNSfHVVSeQxPCuOpTPw-aph3cd1uznbdDQShZ@mail.gmail.com>

I joined very shortly after his departure. The gist of what I got, was he
was a raging "on-topic only" A-hole.
Trying to keep this list on topic, is like trying to herd cats....

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Adrian Jones
<adrianjones747 at earthlink.net>wrote:

> I've been on the list for years but don't remember  Montana Bob.
>
>
>
> Every now and then his name pops up - what was it all about?
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun  3 16:16:33 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 18:16:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Montana Bob
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikDNSfHVVSeQxPCuOpTPw-aph3cd1uznbdDQShZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000401cb0354$3c1ab2f0$b45018d0$@net>
	<AANLkTikDNSfHVVSeQxPCuOpTPw-aph3cd1uznbdDQShZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BA1387EF-7681-41E8-98CD-F277F104A453@snet.net>

He would be right at home on the Big Healey list.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

On Jun 3, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:

> I joined very shortly after his departure. The gist of what I got,  
> was he
> was a raging "on-topic only" A-hole.
> Trying to keep this list on topic, is like trying to herd cats....

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun  3 16:32:04 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:32:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] carpet glue
In-Reply-To: <10BECA5735294CBF9E0919D8DE2A7E85@Inspiron>
References: <10BECA5735294CBF9E0919D8DE2A7E85@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <4C082D64.7040601@comcast.net>

On 6/3/2010 5:02 PM, Greg Higgins wrote:
> I'm going to help a friend install a carpet kit in his LBC this weekend. I
> have always used Lepages contact cement, it stinks but holds great.The down
> side is if you make a mistake when fitting the piece, it can sometime be a
> bear to re-adjust. I was looking at Barney Gaylord's site, one of the guy's
> was using white carpet cement from Home Depot, the cost was $14.00 a gallon,
> it looked to be forgiving if you didn't get the piece right the first time.
>
> Has anyone else used carpet white carpet cement?


3M # 74 spray glue.
It is forgiving, holds fine for years yet if you have to pull it up say 
to get to the tranny filler plug, you can, you just have to hit it with 
more spray glue to hold it back down.
Many glues are one time only, you may never be able to get the rug back 
up without it unraveling. Not so with #74.
Spray the metal, spray the glue, and stick them together.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From pilotrob at msn.com  Thu Jun  3 16:37:13 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:37:13 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fuel Pump Arm.
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds124AB4D55E9609A670FD20D4D10@phx.gbl>

Yet another fine Moss part, no doubt mfg'd in the land of Far East quality automotive afermarket products.....

.....ain't "globalization" great! :)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael DiPleco
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 2:59 PM
To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fuel Pump Arm.

The fuel pump was not hitting the cam completely, so operated at 1/2 it's
ability. When off the car, working the handle, pumped fine.
Gabe and Peter replaced the bottom half of the pump and all is well.
Michael

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:48 AM, NONE <eric19472001 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> I have no input on the fuel pump issue - my 948 runs at about 180 -185 on a
> warm day - Rich F -
>
> --- On Thu, 6/3/10, Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob at msn.com<PilotRob%40msn.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Robert E. Shlafer <PilotRob at msn.com <PilotRob%40msn.com>>
> Subject: RE: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fuel Pump Arm.
> To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com <bugeye%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 11:28 AM
>
>
> But, what was fix for inadequate fuel supply to carbs???
>
> CB
>
> To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com <bugeye%40yahoogroups.com>
> From: bugeye61 at gmail.com <bugeye61%40gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:43:50 +0000
> Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fuel Pump Arm.
>
>
>
> Has anyone heard of this.
>
> I replaced the fuel pump with one from Moss, the arm of the new pump is a
> 1/4 inch shorter then the original. I was at wits end sorting out the fuel
> issues I was having- Cleaned the tank and sealed it, new fuel line from tank
> to carbs, inline filter, rebuild the carbs.
> I finally surrendered and brought it to the shop. And this is what they
> found. No more 50 year old crap getting in the carbs, just not enough fuel.
> On another subject- Gabe also said my car runs hot 200, he replaced the
> thermostat, but this car has ran this hot for as long as I have had it?
> Just love my BE.
>
>
>
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  3 17:08:52 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:08:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood Hinge
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTintAE1YwkgoSU3AJCAXJZwbF5qrEDgZOjyH_uh_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTintAE1YwkgoSU3AJCAXJZwbF5qrEDgZOjyH_uh_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <528674.58920.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Kirk,
I know it sounds silly - and I certainly don't mean to insult, but could
you have them swapped L to R?. They look similar but are different pieces. (I
have seen them mounted wrong, thankfully not by me)

 - David Booker
Long
Island




________________________________
From: Kirk Hargreaves
<khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010
2:58:23 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood Hinge

I am at the end of my rope in
terms of getting my hinge. . . passengers side
behind the radio. .  back in
place.

I have tried small bolts to line it up, pics that fit in the hole to
try and
get it lined up. .  the whole deal.

Anyone have a creative idea on
this?

Kirk
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From conen at bellsouth.net  Thu Jun  3 18:13:19 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:13:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] PB Blaster  (Wrong Way Corrigan)
Message-ID: <979245.73287.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

His 1938 autobiography is very readable (pictures!) and even more interesting. :-)
  Ed in NC

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun  3 18:43:41 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:43:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hood Hinge
In-Reply-To: <528674.58920.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTintAE1YwkgoSU3AJCAXJZwbF5qrEDgZOjyH_uh_@mail.gmail.com>
	<528674.58920.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <50751D65F3244510A2721D9CA91F8092@Home>

>but could you have them swapped L to R?.

It is well established that Spridgets defy the basic laws of probability: 
Thing are put in backward 75% of the time.

ewoR leahciM 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun  3 20:19:00 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 21:19:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting Software offer
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6nvNZXJysPM82B6FWkgriFNnUiIQrWBYMHXiR@mail.gmail.com>

All,

Got this the other day and am now passing it on to you.  NFI....etc.   I
bought a copy and will be evaluating it as I restore my Midget. The Hemmings
article indicates its a pretty decent software package so I'm looking
forward to seeing how it works...
__________________________________________________
special for car club members on Collector Car Companion - car restoration
software that helps antique, classic, custom and muscle car owners organize
and document their projects, parts, photos and work. Check it out at
http://www.collectorcarcompanion.com/club_special.php.

Hemmings recently gave us an excellent review. Here's a link to it (its the
2nd article) -
http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/2009/11/01/hmn_feature4.html.

Please pass this on to your members and feel free to reprint the Hemmings
article in your newsletter. Below is the email from Hemmings giving
permission to reprint it.

Here's an
image<http://www.collectorcarcompanion.com/images/Club%20Special%20Offer.jpg>
that
summarizes the special offer that you can use as well.

Thanks much,
John McKeon
919-413-5678
________________________________________________________


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Cheers!!
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jun  3 21:22:28 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:22:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Westown Car show...
Message-ID: <9A646931385048348E511015C83661BD@blackbox2>

Anybody thinking of going to this on Saturday?

I thought I might.

 

Westtown, Pennsylvania - June 5, 2010

Cars of England Show 2010

All-Marque British Car and Motorcycle Show

Sponsored by the Delaware Valley Triumph Club and the Delaware Valley Jaguar
Club

Set on the scenic grounds of the historic Oakbourne Mansion in Westtown, PA

Steve Klein (610) 825-2617

klassiccar at aol.com

From bkitterer at me.com  Fri Jun  4 00:11:01 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:11:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7UMWrc-lXtJgC5CFHivFl7TKSl_QYP2Phzl1C@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C070051.2040203@verizon.net>
	<6586EFD9-7A30-497C-90F1-70ADE683F491@me.com>
	<AANLkTim7UMWrc-lXtJgC5CFHivFl7TKSl_QYP2Phzl1C@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FFB5E2F5-98B5-4233-8E94-C4E9403088FD@me.com>

The only differences that I have ever seen was rather minor differences in
where some of the lift-a-dots were mounted.  Now some cars did not have
lift-a-dots along the back of the compartment but used the rear top bar mount
- - long or short tonneaus.  As I recall when replacing a top or tonneau from
MG Mitten I did have to install the lift-a-dots.  I have never used NOS tops
or tonneaus but would have expected the material to have shrunk to the point
of being useless.  That was the case with the top that was new when my car
went up on blocks but it was way to small some ten years later even after a
day out in the sun.

The problem that I had with Robbins was that the tops (and tonneau) were just
the wrong size despite their great quality and having patterns that went back
for years.  The first top was the right shape but two inches short of reaching
the windshield even with the top bows collapsed to the max.  Doug said that
letting it lay out in the sun for a bit would stretch it enough to go on and
if I could not do it his installer could.  This may have been true, assuming
that they did not break the windshield in the process, and it would have
looked great in a car show.  But we needed a top that two old f**ts could
install on a cold rainy day to keep us dry.  The next top they delivered was
for a Mk III and top number three was some combination of a BE and a Mk
something and hung over the windshield by about three inches.  Most of
annoying was that Doug measured my car, lift-a-dot locations, noted and marked
up an old tonneau then delivered a cover with corners radiuses that totally
missed the lift-a-dot locations making it worthless.  This was a
non-refundable tonneau because it was in white which they were no longer
listing.

Very sad for a very old company which other wise has a great product.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage

On Jun 3, 2010, at 8:31 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> Interesting observation, Bob.  I wonder if there is variance in the bodies
> of our Spridgets??  That is other than model to model...    I wonder how
> exacting the construction standards were and how accurate the jigs were?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri Jun  4 01:36:42 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 00:36:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
In-Reply-To: <FFB5E2F5-98B5-4233-8E94-C4E9403088FD@me.com>
References: <4C070051.2040203@verizon.net>
	<6586EFD9-7A30-497C-90F1-70ADE683F491@me.com>
	<AANLkTim7UMWrc-lXtJgC5CFHivFl7TKSl_QYP2Phzl1C@mail.gmail.com>
	<FFB5E2F5-98B5-4233-8E94-C4E9403088FD@me.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmUKCKhuhiKhnqDeSnPDZriLTmYAalUMnwprLF@mail.gmail.com>

The top I bought for my Bugeye a few years ago was from Little British Car
Company off their web site.  Apparently it is drop shipped from England.
According to LBC Company it was made by the original maker when the car was
new.  It came with all the fittings and I had to mark and make the holes in
the right places.  Really not a bad way to spend an afternoon.  You also
need both the front and rear bars, but the holes in the back are in the
right place.  The only problem I have with the top is the sewn peak that
locates the forward fold out bow is behind where the bow extends out to.  So
the top is loose unless I pull the bow back out of full extension and the
tightness of the top keeps it in place, unless I hit a big bump or pothole,
then everything goes loose again.  Other than that, the top is very good
quality material and is priced somewhat cheaper than the usual suspects.
Can't say what the tops for the later cars are like in fitment, but at least
you can order different colors and even get one with a zippered rear
window.  All this talk of bad fitting tops has me wondering where I should
buy the top for my BN2 resto project or just have one made at a shop.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:

> The only differences that I have ever seen was rather minor differences in
> where some of the lift-a-dots were mounted.  Now some cars did not have
> lift-a-dots along the back of the compartment but used the rear top bar
> mount
> - - long or short tonneaus.  As I recall when replacing a top or tonneau
> from
> MG Mitten I did have to install the lift-a-dots.  I have never used NOS
> tops
> or tonneaus but would have expected the material to have shrunk to the
> point
> of being useless.  That was the case with the top that was new when my car
> went up on blocks but it was way to small some ten years later even after a
> day out in the sun.
>
> The problem that I had with Robbins was that the tops (and tonneau) were
> just
> the wrong size despite their great quality and having patterns that went
> back
> for years.  The first top was the right shape but two inches short of
> reaching
> the windshield even with the top bows collapsed to the max.  Doug said that
> letting it lay out in the sun for a bit would stretch it enough to go on
> and
> if I could not do it his installer could.  This may have been true,
> assuming
> that they did not break the windshield in the process, and it would have
> looked great in a car show.  But we needed a top that two old f**ts could
> install on a cold rainy day to keep us dry.  The next top they delivered
> was
> for a Mk III and top number three was some combination of a BE and a Mk
> something and hung over the windshield by about three inches.  Most of
> annoying was that Doug measured my car, lift-a-dot locations, noted and
> marked
> up an old tonneau then delivered a cover with corners radiuses that totally
> missed the lift-a-dot locations making it worthless.  This was a
> non-refundable tonneau because it was in white which they were no longer
> listing.
>
> Very sad for a very old company which other wise has a great product.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
> 2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 04:07:14 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:07:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
Message-ID: <AANLkTilGduvNJJT3Kw98giRasHap2j_UUbvKKxLs7h4E@mail.gmail.com>

OMG a box only I am just not getting it but to each his/her own I do
understand but always amazed. eBay UK number 110538316037 or link below.
Lin

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DINKY-TOYS-1960s-112-AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRITE-Empty-Box-/110538316037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item19bc98d905

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 04:09:06 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:09:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky Update.... (battery hold-down)
In-Reply-To: <988882.16707.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <988882.16707.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinV9txWCofyG_1iHkmaTXq2skPf6ZzAfc8jk0Ct@mail.gmail.com>

Ed I really like that design I'll give it a try too.
Thanks Linda

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Edmund Conen <conen at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Back when my Spridget ran...
> I made my battery hold down out of pvc pipe.  I just cut a 1/4 section out
> of the circumference for the length of the battery so it would hold snugly
> to the corner of the battery.  Non-conducting and less likely to split than
> wood, since I like to over tighten things. ;-)
>  Ed in NC
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 04:30:49 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:30:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul Asgeirsson - update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin0tOZuuJZ8UIT6iXe-0fQW-Z-npDjt-mf4lA3r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <26001.46883.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AB7A9132-8570-4A66-85C6-4DF726915843@me.com>
	<AANLkTin0tOZuuJZ8UIT6iXe-0fQW-Z-npDjt-mf4lA3r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilnkJu1IDeJZ7zIzWc6RfZpWFLQtvn5kMcqirGU@mail.gmail.com>

That is a great idea I'm sorry I haven't meet Paul but he seems to be a
really nice guy. I have been following info on his condition and glad he is
doing better. Was he able to keep any of his cars for the move? Will he be
able to drive in the future?
Have a great picnic.
Lin

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Wish I could be there to see Paul but, alas, too far away...
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the update.  Although my cars are not running count me in for
> > the picnic.
> >
> > Bob Kitterer
> >
> > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
> > 2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage
> >
> > On May 29, 2010, at 8:05 PM, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Paul Asgeirsson - update
> > >
> > > Our buddy Paul has now been relocated to Escondido, Ca.
> > >
> > > His new information
> > >
> > > Address:
> > >
> > > Las Villas Del Norte Retirement Community
> > > 1325 Las Villas Way
> > > Escondido, CA 92026-1946
> > >
> > > You need to contact A family member for clearance to see Paul.
> > >
> > > Here is from my Visit yesterday.........
> > >
> > > Paul was speaking very well and showed a big improvement over two weeks
> > ago.
> > > He is walking with out a cane - His memory seems to have shown some
> > > improvement too.
> > > We talked for several hours, Watched a little TV and then had dinner
> > > together.
> > > He had his Minor Million, Traveler & Hard top models on the table next
> to
> > the
> > > TV.
> > > Paul walked me out & was pleasantly surprised i had driven the Morris
> > Tourer.
> > > He asked questions about my tourer like if i had a 5 speed and a few
> > other
> > > things..
> > > He was very happy to have company and see the the Morris Minor..
> > >
> > > Here is the plan -
> > >
> > > There is a nice park with a lake in the Escondido area.
> > > How many people would like to meet at Dixson Lake & see Paul.
> > > It would give every one a chance to drive there cars & have a picnic.
> > > Paul would love to see all of you and your cars.
> > >
> > > Tom A is thinking of having a picnic around Paul's Birthday - June 11.
> > > They are trying to confirm a doctors appointment -
> > > So the Date is not confirmed yet for picnic. - i should have it soon.
> > > The park lets seniors in for free - Motorcycles & cars -  $5
> > > If enough people are interested I will reserve a picnic area.
> > >
> > > Vigil
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>
>
> --
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> Jim
>  In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
> shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
>       John Adams
>       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 04:35:09 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:35:09 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Westown Car show...
In-Reply-To: <9A646931385048348E511015C83661BD@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <1846185420.1555021275647709162.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

yep I am going. 
Ryan 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net> 
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Thursday, June 3, 2010 11:22:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [Spridgets] Westown Car show... 

Anybody thinking of going to this on Saturday? 

I thought I might. 



Westtown, Pennsylvania - June 5, 2010 

Cars of England Show 2010 

All-Marque British Car and Motorcycle Show 

Sponsored by the Delaware Valley Triumph Club and the Delaware Valley Jaguar 
Club 

Set on the scenic grounds of the historic Oakbourne Mansion in Westtown, PA 

Steve Klein (610) 825-2617 

klassiccar at aol.com 
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 05:49:08 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 04:49:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
Message-ID: <10703.30780.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This looks like a pretty sweet deal....

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1770264517.html

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 07:04:39 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 06:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w2DFB1EE1D87D44CC311CFB8D20@phx.gbl>
References: <10703.30780.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY147-w2DFB1EE1D87D44CC311CFB8D20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <513410.46553.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dang!  here's another one....

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/06/03/bargain-racer-project-mga-roadster/

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: "robertduquette at sympatico.ca" <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: eap2140 at yahoo.com
Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 5:45:27 AM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA

 yes, it does!

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada

> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 04:49:08 -0700
> 
> This looks like a pretty sweet deal....
> 
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1770264517.html
> 
>  Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
> _______________________________________________

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 07:11:26 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 08:11:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <10703.30780.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <10703.30780.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimZjkS7Hyo_CaVXUQBQe7x7giZMo5uHKjPWfpnj@mail.gmail.com>

Am I the only one that's tired of ads that say "This car was a running
and driving car when..." ???
Cripes!  Unless they're advertising some non-op prototype or concept
weren't they ALL running and driving cars at some point?

And, OMG, this one is "still covered in barn dust"!
ACTUAL BARN DUST???  Well that's gotta make it worth a few thousand more!


On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> This looks like a pretty sweet deal....
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1770264517.html

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  4 07:14:19 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:14:19 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Montana Bob
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikDNSfHVVSeQxPCuOpTPw-aph3cd1uznbdDQShZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000401cb0354$3c1ab2f0$b45018d0$@net>,
	<AANLkTikDNSfHVVSeQxPCuOpTPw-aph3cd1uznbdDQShZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w4058A3F6037EBCF6D8BF4FB8D20@phx.gbl>

Didn't someone fess up ( or insinuate that he may have been responsible ) to
pulling our collective leg with the Montana Bob adventure?

Canada Robert
( I heard cats before. ;) )

> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:26:23 -0500
> From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
> I joined very shortly after his departure. The gist of what I got, was he
> was a raging "on-topic only" A-hole.
> Trying to keep this list on topic, is like trying to herd cats....
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Adrian Jones
> <adrianjones747 at earthlink.net>wrote:
>
> > I've been on the list for years but don't remember  Montana Bob.
> >
> > Every now and then his name pops up - what was it all about?
 > _______________________________________________

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Jun  4 07:32:59 2010
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:32:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car show Hellertown PA June 13
Message-ID: <C8018C59-08E0-4E04-8A7A-6929BE4A5AED@verizon.net>

Speaking of car shows, one of my favorites is coming up on June 13th.   The
show is hosted by Keystone Region MG Club and they do a great job in a
terrific setting.   Here's the link with directions and registration form:

http://www.keystonemg.com/hellertown.html


Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  4 08:08:40 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:08:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimZjkS7Hyo_CaVXUQBQe7x7giZMo5uHKjPWfpnj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10703.30780.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<AANLkTimZjkS7Hyo_CaVXUQBQe7x7giZMo5uHKjPWfpnj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w605CC5C6B2E99F7E0070CCB8D20@phx.gbl>

Well, it is being represented as barn dust.  Let the buyer beware.  ;)
I confess that I refer to my Sprite occasionally as a car that was on the road
and running well before that fateful autumn day when I removed that front
fender and found air where the inner sill should have been.

Robert Duquette

Ottawa ON Canada

1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )

1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )

1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen
)http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg


> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 08:11:26 -0500
> From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
>
> Am I the only one that's tired of ads that say "This car was a running
> and driving car when..." ???
> Cripes!  Unless they're advertising some non-op prototype or concept
> weren't they ALL running and driving cars at some point?
>
> And, OMG, this one is "still covered in barn dust"!
> ACTUAL BARN DUST???  Well that's gotta make it worth a few thousand more!
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > This looks like a pretty sweet deal....
> >
> > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/1770264517.html
> _______________________________________________

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 08:21:14 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:21:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimZjkS7Hyo_CaVXUQBQe7x7giZMo5uHKjPWfpnj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10703.30780.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTimZjkS7Hyo_CaVXUQBQe7x7giZMo5uHKjPWfpnj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2F2D4468-B44A-415A-90CA-99C19B4DF141@comcast.net>

HAH!  That's how my Jag was advertised , running when we parked it in the shed
in '79.  I thought that it must have been tough to drive in there as one brake
rotor was in pieces in the trunk and the calipers were in a separate box...

Lester


On Jun 4, 2010, at 8:11 AM, J Foster wrote:

> Am I the only one that's tired of ads that say "This car was a running
> and driving car when..." ???
> Cripes!  Unless they're advertising some non-op prototype or concept
> weren't they ALL running and driving cars at some point?
>
> And, OMG, this one is "still covered in barn dust"!
> ACTUAL BARN DUST???  Well that's gotta make it worth a few thousand more!

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 08:25:16 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:25:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilGduvNJJT3Kw98giRasHap2j_UUbvKKxLs7h4E@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilGduvNJJT3Kw98giRasHap2j_UUbvKKxLs7h4E@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <59985557-B2D7-4B4D-A954-186033972CA7@comcast.net>

It's a collector thing.  You would appreciate a LL steering wheel were most
folks wouldn't understand that this is a better fit than a MotoLita for
example.  Hey, I admit it, I have paid money for Parker Pen boxes from the
20's and one from the 90's.  It's the details that make it something special,
like having the original window sticker or the cars entire ownership
history..

Lester


On Jun 4, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:

> OMG a box only I am just not getting it but to each his/her own I do
> understand but always amazed. eBay UK number 110538316037 or link below.
> Lin
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DINKY-TOYS-1960s-112-AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRITE-Empty-Box-/11
0538316037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&ha
sh=item19bc98d905
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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  4 09:29:58 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:29:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
Message-ID: <SNT124-W53577CCDBA1A6F3641CFC8B7D20@phx.gbl>

Listers,

I'm getting ready to R & R the clutch on my '73 midget.  Does anyone have an
opinion as to whether it's easier or better to remove just the engine, or the
engine & gearbox together.  My initial thought was that pulling the two
together would be easier - mainly because access to the mounting hardware
would be easier.  (I have a grease pit, and can easily get at the transmission
mount bolts & propeller shaft.)



My second thought is that removing the engine alone might mean more blind
wrench turning in hard to reach places (and maybe not) but the actual
extraction and replacement would be easier.   And since I have the grease pit,
swapping out the slave cylinder & throwout bearing with the transmission in
situ shouldn't be too difficult.



If you have any suggestions, please hit "reply all," since I'm still in digest
mode and won't get replies to the list until the next digest.



Also, I was planning to pull the engine with a rope block & tackle (I've used
it to pull/hoist things a lot heavier than a Midget engine) but afer the all
the "chain" talk, I'm thinking crane and sling.



Thanks,



-Mike Eldred

Wilmington, VT

'73 MG Midget

'54 MG TF

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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  4 09:30:00 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:30:00 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <2F2D4468-B44A-415A-90CA-99C19B4DF141@comcast.net>
References: <10703.30780.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<AANLkTimZjkS7Hyo_CaVXUQBQe7x7giZMo5uHKjPWfpnj@mail.gmail.com>,
	<2F2D4468-B44A-415A-90CA-99C19B4DF141@comcast.net>
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So, it was running, ... but not stopping!!! :)
Robert
> From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net
>
> HAH!  That's how my Jag was advertised , running when we parked it in the
shed
> in '79.  I thought that it must have been tough to drive in there as one
brake
> rotor was in pieces in the trunk and the calipers were in a separate box...
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2010, at 8:11 AM, J Foster wrote:
>
> > Am I the only one that's tired of ads that say "This car was a running
> > and driving car when..." ???
> > Cripes!  Unless they're advertising some non-op prototype or concept
> > weren't they ALL running and driving cars at some point?
> >
> > And, OMG, this one is "still covered in barn dust"!
> > ACTUAL BARN DUST???  Well that's gotta make it worth a few thousand more!
> _______________________________________________

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Jun  4 10:00:26 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 11:00:26 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8g6oXTbWk-SMlz-jWw3EhC7wgq8HSW3dfpmW-@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimylH7c0BXbzvtAfJCNqg3J_MAACM2J2N6WicDj@mail.gmail.com>
	<943529.82439.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTil8g6oXTbWk-SMlz-jWw3EhC7wgq8HSW3dfpmW-@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46013.216.56.10.146.1275667226.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

We have lots of stories!  Nuf said.

Dave, you been gone?  Not heard from you in a while.

Dave W.


> Hmmm, sold by Jahimiak... Sounds familiar somehow ;-)
> David L
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:07 PM, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Lin,
>> Here is a bonnet just like Frank's. Better be sitting down before you
>> click on the link.
>> http://tinyurl.com/3y6fp42

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 10:49:51 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilGduvNJJT3Kw98giRasHap2j_UUbvKKxLs7h4E@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilGduvNJJT3Kw98giRasHap2j_UUbvKKxLs7h4E@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <468221.52577.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Know what you mean Linda - I know people who buy HotWheels and other little
cars, then leave them in the packaging... What's the fun of that? 

Right
now on my desk here at work, I have a '64 Galaxie (with the tear-drop hood
bulge), a '64 Fairlane Thunderbolt, a GT40, a 427 Shelby Cobra, and a Shelby
Daytona Coupe.  There's also a Lancia Stratos, which kind of doesn't fit with
the rest of the little group, but what the heck, that car always drove me
crazy.  Oh yes, and three different 1/64 Ertl tractor-trailer rigs wearing
Beck/Arnley livery.

I no longer make motor noises (when people are near) but
do roll them around a bit from time-to-time. 

This of course is nothing
compared to all the 1/18th scale British roadsters at the house, or the
selection of maybe 75 or 80 HotWheels, Matchbox, Dinky, etc British cars
packed away patiently waiting for me to get a place with a bit more room
again.

David Booker
Long Island



________________________________
From:
Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: Spridget list
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 6:07:14 AM
Subject:
[Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"

OMG a box only I am just not getting it
but to each his/her own I do
understand but always amazed. eBay UK number
110538316037 or link below.
Lin
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DINKY-TOYS-1960s-112-AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRITE-Empty-Box-/11
0538316037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&ha
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun  4 10:56:05 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 11:56:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Montana Bob
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w4058A3F6037EBCF6D8BF4FB8D20@phx.gbl>
References: <000401cb0354$3c1ab2f0$b45018d0$@net>,
	<AANLkTikDNSfHVVSeQxPCuOpTPw-aph3cd1uznbdDQShZ@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY147-w4058A3F6037EBCF6D8BF4FB8D20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C093025.9050302@justbrits.com>

<< ( or insinuate that he may have been responsible ) >>

Dat's the way I remember it, RD.  And it was a very
'lame' insinuation at that.  'Course there was a bunch
of finger pointing also !!  LOL

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 11:02:03 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:02:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W53577CCDBA1A6F3641CFC8B7D20@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W53577CCDBA1A6F3641CFC8B7D20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <594383.18275.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mike,
I've only pulled mine once. When I did it last year, I left the tranny
alone. One of the factors in the decision was I didn't want to mess with
pulling the seats and carpets out. I also did not have a pit to work with. 
People told me it would be difficult to mate the engine and tranny back up
afterward, but it slid right in no problem.

David Booker
Long Island
________________________________
From: Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 11:29:58 AM
Subject:
[Spridgets] (no subject)

Listers,

I'm getting ready to R & R the clutch on
my '73 midget.  Does anyone have an
opinion as to whether it's easier or
better to remove just the engine, or the
engine & gearbox together.  My
initial thought was that pulling the two
together would be easier - mainly
because access to the mounting hardware
would be easier.  (I have a grease
pit, and can easily get at the transmission
mount bolts & propeller shaft.)
My second thought is that removing the engine alone might mean more blind
wrench turning in hard to reach places (and maybe not) but the actual
extraction and replacement would be easier.  And since I have the grease pit,
swapping out the slave cylinder & throwout bearing with the transmission in
situ shouldn't be too difficult.



If you have any suggestions, please hit
"reply all," since I'm still in digest
mode and won't get replies to the list
until the next digest.



Also, I was planning to pull the engine with a rope
block & tackle (I've used
it to pull/hoist things a lot heavier than a Midget
engine) but afer the all
the "chain" talk, I'm thinking crane and sling.
Thanks,



-Mike Eldred

Wilmington, VT

'73 MG Midget

'54 MG TF
_________________________________________________________________
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 11:50:38 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:50:38 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
In-Reply-To: <468221.52577.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1690891761.1758571275673838932.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Notice that he makes no mention of "work" on his desk just toys...... :- )

Ryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>, "Spridget list"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 4, 2010 12:49:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"

Know what you mean Linda - I know people who buy HotWheels and other little
cars, then leave them in the packaging... What's the fun of that?

Right
now on my desk here at work, I have a '64 Galaxie (with the tear-drop hood
bulge), a '64 Fairlane Thunderbolt, a GT40, a 427 Shelby Cobra, and a Shelby
Daytona Coupe. B There's also a Lancia Stratos, which kind of doesn't fit with
the rest of the little group, but what the heck, that car always drove me
crazy. B Oh yes, and three different 1/64 Ertl tractor-trailer rigs wearing
Beck/Arnley livery.

I no longer make motor noises (when people are near) but
do roll them around a bit from time-to-time.

This of course is nothing
compared to all the 1/18th scale British roadsters at the house, or the
selection of maybe 75 or 80 HotWheels, Matchbox, Dinky, etc British cars
packed away patiently waiting for me to get a place with a bit more room
again.

David Booker
Long Island



________________________________
From:
Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: Spridget list
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 6:07:14 AM
Subject:
[Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"

OMG a box only I am just not getting it
but to each his/her own I do
understand but always amazed. eBay UK number
110538316037 or link below.
Lin
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DINKY-TOYS-1960s-112-AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRITE-Empty-Box-/11
0538316037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&ha
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Fri Jun  4 12:17:18 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:17:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimZjkS7Hyo_CaVXUQBQe7x7giZMo5uHKjPWfpnj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10703.30780.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTimZjkS7Hyo_CaVXUQBQe7x7giZMo5uHKjPWfpnj@mail.gmail.com>
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I have one of those.  When I started to work on it I discovered that the 
engine was frozen and wouldn't turn.  I tried several different things 
but couldn't rotate it.  So I pulled the head off and discovered water 
on top of the pistons.  The car was complete- had the hood, carbs, air 
cleaner on it, so no stray raindrops got in there.  So there is more to 
the story that they aren't telling.  As of now I don't know if I need to 
have my block bored and get new pistons if those are even available, or 
look for a new short block.

> Am I the only one that's tired of ads that say "This car was a running
> and driving car when..." ???

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 12:21:59 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:21:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <594383.18275.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <SNT124-W53577CCDBA1A6F3641CFC8B7D20@phx.gbl>
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Mr. Booker (Hi David!) was lucky in my experience. I've done it both ways a
number of times. I found it MUCH easier to pull everything and open once it
is out.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:02 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mike,
> I've only pulled mine once. When I did it last year, I left the tranny
> alone. One of the factors in the decision was I didn't want to mess with
> pulling the seats and carpets out. I also did not have a pit to work with.
> People told me it would be difficult to mate the engine and tranny back up
> afterward, but it slid right in no problem.
>
> David Booker
> Long Island
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 11:29:58 AM
> Subject:
> [Spridgets] (no subject)
>
> Listers,
>
> I'm getting ready to R & R the clutch on
> my '73 midget.  Does anyone have an
> opinion as to whether it's easier or
> better to remove just the engine, or the
> engine & gearbox together.  My
> initial thought was that pulling the two
> together would be easier - mainly
> because access to the mounting hardware
> would be easier.  (I have a grease
> pit, and can easily get at the transmission
> mount bolts & propeller shaft.)
> My second thought is that removing the engine alone might mean more blind
> wrench turning in hard to reach places (and maybe not) but the actual
> extraction and replacement would be easier.  And since I have the grease
> pit,
> swapping out the slave cylinder & throwout bearing with the transmission in
> situ shouldn't be too difficult.
>
>
>
> If you have any suggestions, please hit
> "reply all," since I'm still in digest
> mode and won't get replies to the list
> until the next digest.
>
>
>
> Also, I was planning to pull the engine with a rope
> block & tackle (I've used
> it to pull/hoist things a lot heavier than a Midget
> engine) but afer the all
> the "chain" talk, I'm thinking crane and sling.
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> -Mike Eldred
>
> Wilmington, VT
>
> '73 MG Midget
>
> '54 MG TF
> _________________________________________________________________
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> think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with
> Hotmail.
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  4 13:46:32 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:46:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] carpet glue
In-Reply-To: <10BECA5735294CBF9E0919D8DE2A7E85@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <248832.57617.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Why Glue?
 
You can attach it other ways - where when it gets wet or dirty you can remove
it.
 A lot better over all.

--- On Thu, 6/3/10, Greg Higgins <g.h.higgins at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Greg Higgins <g.h.higgins at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] carpet glue
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 2:02 PM


I'm going to help a friend install a carpet kit in his LBC this weekend. I
have always used Lepages contact cement, it stinks but holds great.The down
side is if you make a mistake when fitting the piece, it can sometime be a
bear to re-adjust. I was looking at Barney Gaylord's site, one of the guy's
was using white carpet cement from Home Depot, the cost was $14.00 a gallon,
it looked to be forgiving if you didn't get the piece right the first time.

Has anyone else used carpet white carpet cement?
Thanks for any info

Greg Higgins
63sprite
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  4 15:22:52 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:22:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks Regarding Throwout Bearing Problem
Message-ID: <AANLkTinWy5ta5HtXvmBNlwDtoTSbHnV0vELgWMzplUha@mail.gmail.com>

Frank,

Just a thank you for your admonition to check the length of the rod on the
slave cyl.

It appears that this was the culprit in terms of why I was losing my TB
bearings.

Only cutting it back by a small amount to spec seems to have done the trick
as I have put several miles on it since, and all seems to be well.

Thanks,

Kirk

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun  4 15:27:39 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:27:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
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On 6/4/2010 11:29 AM, Mike Eldred wrote:
> Listers,
>
> I'm getting ready to R&  R the clutch on my '73 midget.

I have done it both ways many times.
Sometimes getting the trans back in with the mount on is as tough as 
lining up the shaft with the clutch.

Pros to leaving the tranny in the car are you do not have to remove the 
slave, so you will not have to bleed it.
You will not have to worry about forgetting to unbolt the ground strap, 
you know, the heavy wire under the car you forget about and try yanking 
the engine and trans out but that wire holds it in.
No drive shaft to remove or replace.

Cons to leaving the tranny in the car.
It is a bit of a pain to get to a couple of engine/trans bolts but not 
too bad. Nothing like the bolts on a 5 speed tranny.
Lining up the input shaft with the clutch can sometimes
be a bear, sometimes it slips right in too.
You need a 2nd person to hold that bottom starter bolt from inside the 
footwell.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  4 16:20:59 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:20:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
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Message-ID: <BAY145-w239F674AC4EB68493AD2CEC2D20@phx.gbl>

You missed the one below it for $2400 obo.
Isn't direct from Speedwell price about half that?

Looking at the prices of his other stuff,
I guess that's how Dr. J supports his racing habit.
$1.25 mil for a Devin CSR? WOW

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:07:18 -0700
> From: fastvee at yahoo.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
>
> Lin,
> Here is a bonnet just like Frank's. Better be sitting down before you click
on the link.
> http://tinyurl.com/3y6fp42
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
> --- On Sat, 5/29/10, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> Cool to know John, I'm glad you bought one of Alan's, I may do the same if I
don't find a bonnet like Frank's Speedwell in the not so distant future ; )
> __

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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun  4 16:27:58 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:27:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] At auction (incl. on line) tomorrow]
Message-ID: <4C097DEE.1040704@justbrits.com>

 From the Healeys List !!

Gotta be for Larry or Glen <VBEG> !!!!

-------- Original Message --------
Austin A40 wagon.

http://tinyurl.com/38gxd2e

NFI, etc.

Bob J.
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  4 16:31:22 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:31:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor question
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I recently bought most of the inventory of Paul Asgeirsson's "Morrisservice"
but there are parts of it that I really don't want to get in to. I am sticking
with the Sprite/Midget pieces only.Paul has done a lot of work producing
parts/kits to put entire Datsun engine and transmissions into Morris Minors
and it would be a shame to just let this endeavor die.Does anyone know of
anyone who would be interested in taking over this part of the business? I
will let it go pretty cheaply to someone who will keep it going.He has made
jigs to make the parts and has engine mounts, tranny mounts, exhaust adapters
and several other pieces. It would be interesting to the right person.
ThanksBillM
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun  4 17:17:43 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:17:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] At auction (incl. on line) tomorrow]
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Actually, I know the car.  It was restored by a guy from West Bend, WI.  I 
met him at a car show in Iola, WI.  We took time to look over this car of 
his and my A60 Ute.  A nice guy.

I understand it to be not original, but it sure is nice looking.  He had 
several other very nice restorations.  All had wood panels on them.  I guess 
he is big into wood boat restorations.

Larry

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 5:27 PM
To: "4 - Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] At auction (incl. on line) tomorrow]

>From the Healeys List !!

Gotta be for Larry or Glen <VBEG> !!!!

-------- Original Message --------
Austin A40 wagon.

http://tinyurl.com/38gxd2e

NFI, etc.

Bob J.
BJ8
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun  4 17:37:28 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:37:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] At auction (incl. on line) tomorrow]
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<< I understand it to be not original, but it sure is nice looking. >>

So that means you WILL be bidding on it enthusiastically
as a "companion" to your Ute, Larry ?!?!??

"Antique Air" and it becomes a car for SWMBO ???

<VBEG>

Anon

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Jun  4 19:02:39 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:02:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
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Message-ID: <C82EF03F.27A52%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

But it does look pretty straight with nice gaps.
Any engine sitting for that long would have to be torn down and rebuilt
anyway. 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun  4 19:25:00 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:25:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] At auction (incl. on line) tomorrow]
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Nope.  Too many cars; too little room.

LAD

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tomorrow]

<< I understand it to be not original, but it sure is nice looking. >>

So that means you WILL be bidding on it enthusiastically
as a "companion" to your Ute, Larry ?!?!??

"Antique Air" and it becomes a car for SWMBO ???

<VBEG>

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From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Jun  4 21:19:28 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:19:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seattle Car Show
Message-ID: <B18BD8BA3DAB4E82B9B748842858D3B2@MAIN>

Several NW Washington lister's have invited me to Saturday happenings that I
am unable to attend due to my work schedule.  This Sunday, there is a Ford Car
show/picnic at Bellevue Community College.  All makes and models are invited,
although, given the title it will be obviously weighted to Fords.  My daughter
and I will be there with either our Falcon Squire Wagon, or our Blue Torino.
If any of you are come out there I'd love to meet you and put a face to the
emails.

Here's the link:

http://www.efv8psrg.org/Ford_picnic/ford_picnic.htm

Dave Riker
Wenatchee, WA


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From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Jun  4 21:25:30 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:25:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON
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It has probably been almost 7 years ago that I bought a top from LBC.  I 
choose a cloth top with a zip-out rear window.  The fabric was high quality. 
I had it professionally installed, because nothing was marked.  The 
upholstery shop, who has done tops for everything up to Aston Martons and 
Chrysler 300's said it was "challenging", and "I wish you would have let me 
order a top for you, so I could have sent it back".

As the end user, my only other observations are that the top is not exactly 
symetrical, ie, one side the top overlaps the side windows by about 1/2" 
more than the other, everything else being correct, and that the back 
plastic windows were much thinner material than any other top I've ever had. 
The back plastic began yellowing at the bottom almost immediately.

David R.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
To: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at me.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Robbins/Amco/EZ ON


> The top I bought for my Bugeye a few years ago was from Little British Car
> Company off their web site.  Apparently it is drop shipped from England.
> According to LBC Company it was made by the original maker when the car 
> was
> new. 


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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Fri Jun  4 22:51:06 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 23:51:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] engine/trans replacement tip
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When you transplant a new (different) motor with transmission, make sure the
threads are good on the transmission mounts beforehand.


Go figure.


Chris

66 with most of a 1275 so far.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:22 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] (no subject)

Mr. Booker (Hi David!) was lucky in my experience. I've done it both ways a
number of times. I found it MUCH easier to pull everything and open once it
is out.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:02 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Mike,
> I've only pulled mine once. When I did it last year, I left the tranny
> alone. One of the factors in the decision was I didn't want to mess with
> pulling the seats and carpets out. I also did not have a pit to work with.
> People told me it would be difficult to mate the engine and tranny back up
> afterward, but it slid right in no problem.
>
> David Booker
> Long Island
> ________________________________
> From: Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 11:29:58 AM
> Subject:
> [Spridgets] (no subject)
>
> Listers,
>
> I'm getting ready to R & R the clutch on
> my '73 midget.  Does anyone have an
> opinion as to whether it's easier or
> better to remove just the engine, or the
> engine & gearbox together.  My
> initial thought was that pulling the two
> together would be easier - mainly
> because access to the mounting hardware
> would be easier.  (I have a grease
> pit, and can easily get at the transmission
> mount bolts & propeller shaft.)
> My second thought is that removing the engine alone might mean more blind
> wrench turning in hard to reach places (and maybe not) but the actual
> extraction and replacement would be easier.  And since I have the grease
> pit,
> swapping out the slave cylinder & throwout bearing with the transmission
in
> situ shouldn't be too difficult.
>
>
>
> If you have any suggestions, please hit
> "reply all," since I'm still in digest
> mode and won't get replies to the list
> until the next digest.
>
>
>
> Also, I was planning to pull the engine with a rope
> block & tackle (I've used
> it to pull/hoist things a lot heavier than a Midget
> engine) but afer the all
> the "chain" talk, I'm thinking crane and sling.
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> -Mike Eldred
>
> Wilmington, VT
>
> '73 MG Midget
>
> '54 MG TF

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 04:01:51 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 06:01:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
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John,
I'd like to see picts when you are done ; )
Lin

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 10:05 AM, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Lin,
> The bonnet won't be mounted and used until I start working on a 67 Midget
> which is being stored on a rotisserie. I will take pictures when I set the
> bonnet on a chassis. Working on  the 62 Sprite now and will soon be ready to
> remove the fenders and hood again, so that would be a good time to try it.
>
> Congratulations on your class's performance in the robotics competition. It
> is a great way to spend your time, and one day you'll have the time to enjoy
> working on Pinky.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 5/29/10, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> Cool to know John, I'm glad you bought one of Alan's, I may do the same if
> I don't find a bonnet like Frank's Speedwell in the not so distant future ;
> )
>
> I'll keep this all in mind when I buy mine. Can you update us on the
> install along with before and after photos?
> Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 04:15:53 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 06:15:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
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Wow John, well you are right I am glad I am sitting. Good to know I have
good taste ; )
Did you see the other items that guy is selling, the race car asking
$1,250,000.00 wow. When I am ready and I don't find a Speedwell bonnet I'll
buy Alan's they are very nice too.

Item number:260570150855

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1957-C-mod-Fastest-winningest-Devin-history-/260570150855?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Race_Car_Parts&hash=item3cab30f7c7
Lin

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:07 PM, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Lin,
> Here is a bonnet just like Frank's. Better be sitting down before you click
> on the link.
> http://tinyurl.com/3y6fp42
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
>
> --- On Sat, 5/29/10, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> Cool to know John, I'm glad you bought one of Alan's, I may do the same if
> I don't find a bonnet like Frank's Speedwell in the not so distant future ;
> )
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 04:30:47 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 06:30:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
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Brian,
I just got to this message sorry for the repost guys/gals. And yes I forgot
the company who sells them cheaper are they the Real Speedwell Company?
Lin

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:20 PM, brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> You missed the one below it for $2400 obo.
> Isn't direct from Speedwell price about half that?
>
> Looking at the prices of his other stuff,
> I guess that's how Dr. J supports his racing habit.
> $1.25 mil for a Devin CSR? WOW
>
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>
>
>
> > Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 11:07:18 -0700
> > From: fastvee at yahoo.com
> > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Update
> >
> > Lin,
> > Here is a bonnet just like Frank's. Better be sitting down before you
> click
> on the link.
> > http://tinyurl.com/3y6fp42
> > John
> > Fogelsville, PA
> >
> > --- On Sat, 5/29/10, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Cool to know John, I'm glad you bought one of Alan's, I may do the same
> if I
> don't find a bonnet like Frank's Speedwell in the not so distant future ; )
> > __
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 04:55:08 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 06:55:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Not exactly LBC but technical...My H.S. Robotics
 Club Underwater Robot Competition Update
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Update,
If anyone knows of parts companies for parts to connect multiple small gauge
wires into a waterproof box without having to gob loads of silicone caulk
around each wire please email me. So far we have found our wires connected
to the waterproof control box was the culprit of our leak which blew out
several chips. The kids need some really good suppliers for this area and
some of the kids mentioned gobbing jars of Vaseline on all the electronics
parts inside the box before sealing it permanently. I think they are nuts to
do that and I object. Can some of you guys tell me if industry does that
with their electronics it just seems like a mess to me. I feel if you seal
the wires to the box properly you shouldn't have to do that.

Last year I took the kids to Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute and got a
tour of their engineering teams I will try and contact them again and see
what they do or get a list of their suppliers.

Knowing you guys/gals are awesome with parts/tools and creative engineering
ideas on not only our Spridgets but other stuff there must be some other
ideas out there.

BTW I take no engineering credit for the team wins I am just the go between
person who hates paperwork, and supervises safe shop practices...wink!

Thanks in advance,
Linda


On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> List,
> I have been so busy at school with clubs and exams that I didn't give an
> update on our competition and some have been interested. Also this will show
> you all why my poor little Sprite has been so neglected as this club takes
> an extra 5 hrs a day after school with the kids for months, we started in
> October. The coolest thing this year was hooking up with my sister school
> (welding shop) and being able to TIG weld the frame which was  stainless
> steel. This frame will last till I retire and then some : ) The most time
> consuming thing was programing Arduino microprocessor chips to control
> joysticks  and sealing the waterproof box. Being we placed 3rd overall vs
> 1st place overall like last year we have started the 2011 redesign last
> week.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Update info from Villanova University, Robotics MATE ROV competition.
>
> We won in 4 categories;
>
> Best Engineering Design for Underwater Robot; $50.00
> 3rd place Technical Report; Trophy
> 1st place Technical Presentation, Robot Build & Technical Poster/Display;
> Trophy
> 3rd place Overall Underwater Competition; Bronze Medallions for each
> student attending
>
> We needed 2nd or 3rd place Overall Underwater Competition for the trip to
> Hawaii, but I am not too sad as we didn't have the money to go and maybe one
> or 2 kids could spend personal money making it hard on all.
> Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 05:02:58 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 07:02:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
In-Reply-To: <59985557-B2D7-4B4D-A954-186033972CA7@comcast.net>
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Lester,
Is that LL steering wheel this one? I thought this was Donald Healey's
please tell me what the LL is so I can obsess on more Spridget parts
...wink.
http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/albums/SPRITE63/wheel1.jpg
Lin

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> It's a collector thing.  You would appreciate a LL steering wheel were most
> folks wouldn't understand that this is a better fit than a MotoLita for
> example.  Hey, I admit it, I have paid money for Parker Pen boxes from the
> 20's and one from the 90's.  It's the details that make it something
> special, like having the original window sticker or the cars entire
> ownership history..
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>
> > OMG a box only I am just not getting it but to each his/her own I do
> > understand but always amazed. eBay UK number 110538316037 or link below.
> > Lin
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DINKY-TOYS-1960s-112-AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRITE-Empty-Box-/110538316037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item19bc98d905
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 05:07:27 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 07:07:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
In-Reply-To: <468221.52577.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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David you crack me up, I do have a few model's on my shelf too, that is
because living in the garage is unhealthy...wink! I just love cars & cycles,
oh wait I love tools too!

The ideal home has glass walls between the home and the garage to see what
makes us happy all day long.
Lin



On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:49 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Know what you mean Linda - I know people who buy HotWheels and other little
> cars, then leave them in the packaging... What's the fun of that?
>
> Right now on my desk here at work, I have a '64 Galaxie (with the tear-drop
> hood bulge), a '64 Fairlane Thunderbolt, a GT40, a 427 Shelby Cobra, and a
> Shelby Daytona Coupe.  There's also a Lancia Stratos, which kind of doesn't
> fit with the rest of the little group, but what the heck, that car always
> drove me crazy.  Oh yes, and three different 1/64 Ertl tractor-trailer rigs
> wearing Beck/Arnley livery.
>
> I no longer make motor noises (when people are near) but do roll them
> around a bit from time-to-time.
>
> This of course is nothing compared to all the 1/18th scale British
> roadsters at the house, or the selection of maybe 75 or 80 HotWheels,
> Matchbox, Dinky, etc British cars packed away patiently waiting for me to
> get a place with a bit more room again.
> David Booker
> Long Island
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> *To:* Spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Fri, June 4, 2010 6:07:14 AM
> *Subject:* [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
>
> OMG a box only I am just not getting it but to each his/her own I do
> understand but always amazed. eBay UK number 110538316037 or link below.
> Lin
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DINKY-TOYS-1960s-112-AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRITE-Empty-Box-/110538316037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&hash=item19bc98d905
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sat Jun  5 07:25:32 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 09:25:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
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>From the Pez guy, this comment makes no sense ;-)


On Jun 4, 2010, at 1:50 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:

> Notice that he makes no mention of "work" on his desk just toys...... :- )
>
> Ryan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>, "Spridget list"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 4, 2010 12:49:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
>
> Know what you mean Linda - I know people who buy HotWheels and other little
> cars, then leave them in the packaging... What's the fun of that?
>
> Right
> now on my desk here at work, I have a '64 Galaxie (with the tear-drop hood
> bulge), a '64 Fairlane Thunderbolt, a GT40, a 427 Shelby Cobra, and a
Shelby
> Daytona Coupe. B There's also a Lancia Stratos, which kind of doesn't fit
with
> the rest of the little group, but what the heck, that car always drove me
> crazy. B Oh yes, and three different 1/64 Ertl tractor-trailer rigs wearing
> Beck/Arnley livery.
>
> I no longer make motor noises (when people are near) but
> do roll them around a bit from time-to-time.
>
> This of course is nothing
> compared to all the 1/18th scale British roadsters at the house, or the
> selection of maybe 75 or 80 HotWheels, Matchbox, Dinky, etc British cars
> packed away patiently waiting for me to get a place with a bit more room
> again.
>
> David Booker
> Long Island
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From:
> Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> To: Spridget list
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, June 4, 2010 6:07:14 AM
> Subject:
> [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
>
> OMG a box only I am just not getting it
> but to each his/her own I do
> understand but always amazed. eBay UK number
> 110538316037 or link below.
> Lin
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DINKY-TOYS-1960s-112-AUSTIN-HEALEY-SPRITE-Empty-Box-/11
>
0538316037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ToysGames_DiecastVehicles_DiecastVehicles_JN&ha
> sh=item19bc98d905
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Larry Macy
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
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Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun  5 08:25:43 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 07:25:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Not exactly LBC but technical...My H.S. Robotics
 Club Underwater Robot Competition Update
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Hello Linda,

     the old way was to use GLYPTAL. I'm sure it still works.

-- 
Best regards,
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 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Happiness is not a destination. It's the trip. 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun  5 08:45:56 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:45:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC CONTENT
Message-ID: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>

I was driving out of the urban area into the rural area and the speed limit
gradually increases.  It seems to be too slow for the environment, so the
traffic usually moves much faster.  There was a construction zone that had a
section of road redone last year and this year they are just landscaping
around it.



I was minutely ( 82 in an 80 zone ) over the speed limit as I approached a
construction worker standing at the side of the road behind his pickup truck
holding a "slow" sign.  I was confused a bit and asking myself 'why' as I
approached, as there was no construction work in progress evident.  But, I
though perhaps there would be a sudden change as I drove over the crest of a
hill.  So, I do slow way down.  So, I got to the crest of the hill and nothing
was apparent for miles.  Being somewhat slow to catch on, I figured that
perhaps the guy forgot to go home when the rest of the crew left.  I hadn't
gone far when, I noticed a police car, hidden behind a hedge facing the road.
He must not have been getting much business what with the guy standing on the
other side of the crest directing traffic to slow down.



Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Jun  5 08:55:20 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 09:55:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] UK eBay Dinky toy "BOX"
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Lin,

I thought you understood.  Does this *LOOK* like a Parker Pen Box?  ;-)  I
don't know, who the hell is Donald Healey, the gy on that TV show that fires
people?

<bigger wink>

Lester


On Jun 5, 2010, at 6:02 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:

> Lester,
> Is that LL steering wheel this one? I thought this was Donald Healey's
please tell me what the LL is so I can obsess on more Spridget parts ...wink.
> http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/albums/SPRITE63/wheel1.jpg
> Lin
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:
> It's a collector thing.  You would appreciate a LL steering wheel were most
folks wouldn't understand that this is a better fit than a MotoLita for
example.  Hey, I admit it, I have paid money for Parker Pen boxes from the
20's and one from the 90's.  It's the details that make it something special,
like having the original window sticker or the cars entire ownership
history..
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>
> > OMG a box only I am just not getting it but to each his/her own I do
> > understand but always amazed. eBay UK number 110538316037 or link below.
> > Lin

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Sat Jun  5 09:36:21 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 11:36:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
Message-ID: <201006051537.o55FbIhX024805@mail.usimperio.com>

I have a friend looking for parts for a '51 Singer 4A, he is looking 
for sources for parts. There is also a parts car that he is willing 
to swap parts out for what he needs. Contact me offlist for his info.
He is also looking for contacts to Singer owners on the east coast.


Dave

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jun  5 10:02:08 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 09:02:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC  CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>

80 = 80 kmh = 49.7 mph

======================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
robertduquette at sympatico.ca
Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 7:46 AM
To: Healeys; Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC CONTENT

I was driving out of the urban area into the rural area and the speed limit
gradually increases.  It seems to be too slow for the environment, so the
traffic usually moves much faster.  There was a construction zone that had a
section of road redone last year and this year they are just landscaping
around it.



I was minutely ( 82 in an 80 zone ) over the speed limit as I approached a
construction worker standing at the side of the road behind his pickup truck
holding a "slow" sign.  I was confused a bit and asking myself 'why' as I
approached, as there was no construction work in progress evident.  But, I
though perhaps there would be a sudden change as I drove over the crest of a
hill.  So, I do slow way down.  So, I got to the crest of the hill and
nothing
was apparent for miles.  Being somewhat slow to catch on, I figured that
perhaps the guy forgot to go home when the rest of the crew left.  I hadn't
gone far when, I noticed a police car, hidden behind a hedge facing the
road.
He must not have been getting much business what with the guy standing on
the
other side of the crest directing traffic to slow down.



Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  5 10:10:56 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 09:10:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin A40 countryman
In-Reply-To: <4C097DEE.1040704@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <427298.628.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This 1951 - Austin A40 countryman was started by Randolph Williams here in
California.
I have seen this car in person - Very neat vehicle. Now that it is done it
looks even better,
 
Vigil



--- On Fri, 6/4/10, Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:


From: Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] At auction (incl. on line) tomorrow]
To: "4 - Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 3:27 PM


>From the Healeys List !!

Gotta be for Larry or Glen <VBEG> !!!!

-------- Original Message --------
Austin A40 wagon.

http://tinyurl.com/38gxd2e

NFI, etc.

Bob J.
BJ8
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  5 10:22:41 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 09:22:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor question
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W40F2C4CF80C34534ED439DCAD20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <629237.3966.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 Bill,
 
Do you have a inventory list & price?
 
Vigil

--- On Fri, 6/4/10, Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor question
To: "spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 3:31 PM


I recently bought most of the inventory of Paul Asgeirsson's "Morrisservice"
but there are parts of it that I really don't want to get in to. I am
sticking
with the Sprite/Midget pieces only.Paul has done a lot of work producing
parts/kits to put entire Datsun engine and transmissions into Morris Minors
and it would be a shame to just let this endeavor die.Does anyone know of
anyone who would be interested in taking over this part of the business? I
will let it go pretty cheaply to someone who will keep it going.He has made
jigs to make the parts and has engine mounts, tranny mounts, exhaust adapters
and several other pieces. It would be interesting to the right person.
ThanksBillM
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sat Jun  5 11:42:18 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 17:42:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Broken jet in front carb....
Message-ID: <1666530225.2059171275759738638.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Started out with a great day; I washed and waxed the car to go to a show this morning. I got gas to fill up the talk and headed down the turnpike. It was about 25 miles later that I realized I was down a 1/4 tank and could smell gas. I pulled into the rest stop gas station and popped the bonnet. It was then that I saw gas pouring out of the hose that should go from the bowl to the jet. I tried everything I could think of to get the house back onto the jet but no luck. So a tow truck of shame brought me home today. 

So the next questions are besides ordering a new sets of jets anything else i should do? What do i need to do to make the swap? Do I need to take the carbs off or can i just loosen the bearing set, slide the old one out and the new one on? 
Thanks Ryan. 
74 midget with HS2 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun  5 15:50:48 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 21:50:48 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC   CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>
References: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>,
	<3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>

Correct.  Without checking the math. I probably should have stated kph, but
who really uses mph anymore?  ;)

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada


> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
>
> 80 = 80 kmh = 49.7 mph
>
> ======================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>
> I was driving out of the urban area into the rural area and the speed limit
> gradually increases. It seems to be too slow for the environment, so the
> traffic usually moves much faster. There was a construction zone that had a
> section of road redone last year and this year they are just landscaping
> around it.
>
>
>
> I was minutely ( 82 in an 80 zone ) over the speed limit as I approached a
> construction worker standing at the side of the road behind his pickup
truck
> holding a "slow" sign. I was confused a bit and asking myself 'why' as I
> approached, as there was no construction work in progress evident. But, I
> though perhaps there would be a sudden change as I drove over the crest of
a
> hill. So, I do slow way down. So, I got to the crest of the hill and
> nothing
> was apparent for miles. Being somewhat slow to catch on, I figured that
> perhaps the guy forgot to go home when the rest of the crew left. I hadn't
> gone far when, I noticed a police car, hidden behind a hedge facing the
> road.
> He must not have been getting much business what with the guy standing on
> the
> other side of the crest directing traffic to slow down.
>
>
>
> Robert Duquette
> Ottawa ON Canada
> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 16:35:22 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 17:35:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC  CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>, 
	<3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>
	<BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <-6137861095490182465@unknownmsgid>

Correct.  Without checking the math. I probably should have stated
kph, but
> who really uses mph anymore?  ;)

Besides, Spridgets seem so much faster in kph...
David L

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 16:52:45 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 16:52:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC  CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>
	<3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>
	<BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimy4f3Kw8QOKC3FoN_3xwKWsQo_KH6xNSC5GNI0@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 3:50 PM,  <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
but who really uses mph anymore?  ;)

Real men do!!!

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun  5 16:53:44 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:53:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC  CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <-6137861095490182465@unknownmsgid>
References: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>, ,
	<3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>
	<BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>,
	<-6137861095490182465@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w2D6C9B8B407FA2B51D3B2B8D30@phx.gbl>

LOL!  Doesn't everything?

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
> Correct. Without checking the math. I probably should have stated
> kph, but who really uses mph anymore? ;)
>
> Besides, Spridgets seem so much faster in kph...
> David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 17:02:06 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 18:02:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC  CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w2D6C9B8B407FA2B51D3B2B8D30@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>, ,
	<3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>
	<BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>,
	<-6137861095490182465@unknownmsgid>
	<BAY147-w2D6C9B8B407FA2B51D3B2B8D30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <-5020850075576930893@unknownmsgid>

> > Besides, Spridgets seem so much faster in kph...


> LOL!  Doesn't everything?

Yeah, but it shows up more in Spridgets.
> David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Jun  5 17:07:33 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 16:07:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch pedal on a '76...
Message-ID: <4C0AD8B5.941.45D559@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Is there supposed to be a "stop" bolt for the clutch pedal on a '76 
RB Midget to prevent clutch over travel?

Or do I have a different problem..!

Pushing the clutch pedal to the wall makes the clutch squeal !!

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Jun  5 17:52:31 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:52:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC   CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimy4f3Kw8QOKC3FoN_3xwKWsQo_KH6xNSC5GNI0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>
	<3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>
	<BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTimy4f3Kw8QOKC3FoN_3xwKWsQo_KH6xNSC5GNI0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0AE33F.8090707@justbrits.com>

Ya BLEW it, Kent !!!

<< but who really uses mph anymore? ;)

Real men do!!! >>

I use MPM !!

Youse must be some kinda wimp !?!

LMAO    [ and TNX for 'opening'!! ]

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Sat Jun  5 18:42:22 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 20:42:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>,
	<3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>
	<BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2FF96B97-2A88-4A34-AAB8-B9D4B385F9F1@gmail.com>

On Jun 5, 2010, at 5:50 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Correct.
> who really uses mph anymore?  ;)


I still do.....

Kevin V.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun  5 19:56:07 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 21:56:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Broken jet in front carb....
In-Reply-To: <1666530225.2059171275759738638.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1666530225.2059171275759738638.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C0B0037.7010209@comcast.net>

A new jet is available from list suppliers.
If you remove the Phillips screw that holds the choke linkage to thje 
jet, slide it down, then unscrew it from the bowl.
New jets are slightly different, better, they have a hose that goes on a 
barbed nipple so your problem will not happen again, or it will be a 
simple matter of pushing the hose back on the barb.
Barbed on the float end too.
  Much, MUCH better than original.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  6 05:44:18 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:44:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Not exactly LBC but technical...My H.S. Robotics
 Club Underwater Robot Competition Update
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikZ5A5ZEywxWJ2XxMOL3Y2KBz8-k8Y8NU3sgvug@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <835049.94378.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Lin,
Conax connectors, http://www.conaxbuffalo.com/details.aspx?cid=FSA&pid=FSA
They have sealing glands for multiple conductors.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sat, 6/5/10, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Not exactly LBC but technical...My H.S. Robotics Club
Underwater Robot Competition Update
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, June 5, 2010, 6:55 AM

Update,
If anyone knows of parts companies for parts to connect multiple small gauge
wires into a waterproof box without having to gob loads of silicone caulk
around each wire please email me. So far we have found our wires connected
to the waterproof control box was the culprit of our leak which blew out
several chips. The kids need some really good suppliers for this area and
some of the kids mentioned gobbing jars of Vaseline on all the electronics
parts inside the box before sealing it permanently. I think they are nuts to
do that and I object. Can some of you guys tell me if industry does that
with their electronics it just seems like a mess to me. I feel if you seal
the wires to the box properly you shouldn't have to do that.

Last year I took the kids to Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute and got a
tour of their engineering teams I will try and contact them again and see
what they do or get a list of their suppliers.

Knowing you guys/gals are awesome with parts/tools and creative engineering
ideas on not only our Spridgets but other stuff there must be some other
ideas out there.

BTW I take no engineering credit for the team wins I am just the go between
person who hates paperwork, and supervises safe shop practices...wink!

Thanks in advance,
Linda


On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Linda Grunthaner
<grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> List,
> I have been so busy at school with clubs and exams that I didn't give an
> update on our competition and some have been interested. Also this will
show
> you all why my poor little Sprite has been so neglected as this club takes
> an extra 5 hrs a day after school with the kids for months, we started in
> October. The coolest thing this year was hooking up with my sister school
> (welding shop) and being able to TIG weld the frame which was  stainless
> steel. This frame will last till I retire and then some : ) The most time
> consuming thing was programing Arduino microprocessor chips to control
> joysticks  and sealing the waterproof box. Being we placed 3rd overall vs
> 1st place overall like last year we have started the 2011 redesign last
> week.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Update info from Villanova University, Robotics MATE ROV competition.
>
> We won in 4 categories;
>
> Best Engineering Design for Underwater Robot; $50.00
> 3rd place Technical Report; Trophy
> 1st place Technical Presentation, Robot Build & Technical Poster/Display;
> Trophy
> 3rd place Overall Underwater Competition; Bronze Medallions for each
> student attending
>
> We needed 2nd or 3rd place Overall Underwater Competition for the trip to
> Hawaii, but I am not too sad as we didn't have the money to go and maybe
one
> or 2 kids could spend personal money making it hard on all.
> Lin
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  6 06:30:00 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 05:30:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] D-Day
Message-ID: <367155.41523.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Take a moment today to remember those who returned to start the LBC hobby ... and those that never got the chance.

Rick



Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun  6 10:42:14 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:42:14 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC   CONTENT
Message-ID: <10cd4.2dcb382a.393d29e6@aol.com>

In the UK, many years ago a mechanic (?) held out a similar sign that  
perhaps was more explicit - POLICE SPEED TRAP (?) on a motosports rally (RAC  
Lombard?) and the police eventually found the guy with the sign.  They  
prosecuted him for 'obstructing the police in the course of their duty'.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 05/06/2010 18:01:22 GMT Daylight Time,  
corvallis at peoplepc.com writes:

I  noticed a police car, hidden behind a hedge facing the
road.
He must not  have been getting much business what with the guy standing on
the
other  side of the crest directing traffic to slow down.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun  6 10:55:23 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 09:55:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC   CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <10cd4.2dcb382a.393d29e6@aol.com>
References: <10cd4.2dcb382a.393d29e6@aol.com>
Message-ID: <10C5F488AC4B4EA08AF57D5502A238FB@spider>

Yes; you have to be subtle when tweaking John Law's nose. .bill in corvallis

 

  _____  

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:42 AM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC CONTENT

 

In the UK, many years ago a mechanic (?) held out a similar sign that
perhaps was more explicit - POLICE SPEED TRAP (?) on a motosports rally (RAC
Lombard?) and the police eventually found the guy with the sign.  They
prosecuted him for 'obstructing the police in the course of their duty'.

 

Weslake-Monza 1330

 

In a message dated 05/06/2010 18:01:22 GMT Daylight Time,
corvallis at peoplepc.com writes:

I noticed a police car, hidden behind a hedge facing the
road.
He must not have been getting much business what with the guy standing on
the
other side of the crest directing traffic to slow down.

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  6 11:36:36 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 10:36:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] D-Day
Message-ID: <290759.11255.qm@web46413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

AMEN!!!

From lists at dinospider.com  Sun Jun  6 11:38:25 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:38:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
In-Reply-To: <201006051537.o55FbIhX024805@mail.usimperio.com>
References: <201006051537.o55FbIhX024805@mail.usimperio.com>
Message-ID: <4C0BDD11.4090801@dinospider.com>

  Umm, has he tried http://www.singercars.com/   ?  has he tried joining 
the discussion forums on   http://www.singercars.com/phpbb   ? great 
group of people and we should be able to find him whatever he needs.  
Whose car did he buy ?  Where on the East Coast, we have more members on 
the East Coast then the West and our big show in Vermont always has 
quite a few cars.

     mike

p.s. I dare say he has not looked too hard since he has not yet 
contacted the Singer Owners Club. :) :) :)


On 6/5/2010 8:36 AM, Dave Yealy wrote:
> I have a friend looking for parts for a '51 Singer 4A, he is looking 
> for sources for parts. There is also a parts car that he is willing to 
> swap parts out for what he needs. Contact me offlist for his info.
> He is also looking for contacts to Singer owners on the east coast.
>
>
> Dave

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 12:05:59 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 14:05:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin A40 countryman
In-Reply-To: <427298.628.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4C097DEE.1040704@justbrits.com>
	<427298.628.qm@web38905.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinJbUV6VO9WGIuTOIIh6hOHd3ufpt27duXRJdDr@mail.gmail.com>

And that you can camp in : )
Lin

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:10 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> This 1951 - Austin A40 countryman was started by Randolph Williams here in
> California.
> I have seen this car in person - Very neat vehicle. Now that it is done it
> looks even better,
>
> Vigil
>
>
>
> --- On Fri, 6/4/10, Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [Healeys] At auction (incl. on line) tomorrow]
> To: "4 - Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 3:27 PM
>
>
> >From the Healeys List !!
>
> Gotta be for Larry or Glen <VBEG> !!!!
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Austin A40 wagon.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/38gxd2e
>
> NFI, etc.
>
> Bob J.
> BJ8
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 12:33:34 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 12:33:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC  CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <10C5F488AC4B4EA08AF57D5502A238FB@spider>
References: <10cd4.2dcb382a.393d29e6@aol.com>
	<10C5F488AC4B4EA08AF57D5502A238FB@spider>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbVQ7HmmgnBxct-1zrj8ntzaTF93PBLBY36LyF@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 10:55 AM,  <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
Yes; you have to be subtle when tweaking John Law's nose.

Unles you are John Law... Years ago I was a township officer and we
did not get along with the county deputies. One was snugly hidden from
view and running radar about a 1/2 mile from my station so I went just
out of his view and parked with my emergency lights on for a while. He
didn't do very well there!

I would also flash my high beams to traffic when I went through a
county speed trap if I didn't have the time to park and slow down
traffic...
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Jun  6 14:42:24 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:42:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
In-Reply-To: <4C0BDD11.4090801@dinospider.com>
Message-ID: <C8315640.27B06%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

The Coach House Concert Theatre in San Juan Capistrano, CA has a Singer
roadster over the bar. The engine and gearbox were last seen sitting behind
the building, next the crumbling double-decker bus. The owners name is Gary.
I think somebody should make him an offer. He told me it was a 1935, but I
think it's early fifties.
BZ

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jun  6 16:14:17 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:14:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC   CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbVQ7HmmgnBxct-1zrj8ntzaTF93PBLBY36LyF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10cd4.2dcb382a.393d29e6@aol.com>
	<10C5F488AC4B4EA08AF57D5502A238FB@spider>
	<AANLkTikbVQ7HmmgnBxct-1zrj8ntzaTF93PBLBY36LyF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0C1DB9.5050202@justbrits.com>

<< I would also flash my high beams to traffic when I went through a
county speed trap >>

And had I been a County or State "John Law" YOU Kent,
WOULD have gotten the ticket !!!   LMAO !!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sun Jun  6 17:35:17 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:35:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <20100606190944.YZSLY.656214.imail@fed1rmwml41>
References: <20100606190944.YZSLY.656214.imail@fed1rmwml41>
Message-ID: <4C0C30B5.3030703@tx.rr.com>

I'm dedicated to getting this car back in running condition.  It's 
complete, but needs a lot of attention for things like generator, 
distributor, underhood hoses, water pump, maybe starter.  I did not 
expect it to require internal engine work but it's going to need 
something.  I pulled the head, mopped the water and other gunk off the 
tops of the pistons, and I've hosed it down with PB Blaster several 
times.  Still the pistons are stuck.

Here is my plan, you guys comment if I'm missing something:
1.  Pull the short block out of the car, leave the trans. in the car.
2.  Knock the pistons out individually from below.
3.  Evaluate the condition of the cylinder bores, but I'm expecting them 
to be bad.
4a.  Bore the block and procure new pistons and rings.
4b.  Procure a new block or short block and separate pistons and rings.
5.  Reassemble.

I don't have a full time shop to work in (My dad's garage is 150 miles 
away).  I'll have to either rent a hoist to pull the engine or jury-rig 
something, which is why I've been hesitant to pull the engine up until 
now.  But now I have to step up my game and get it going.


> "This car was a running and driving car when..." ???
>
> He drove it into the lake! 
>
> ---- BJNoSHOV8 <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote: 
>   
>> I have one of those.  When I started to work on it I discovered that the 
>> engine was frozen and wouldn't turn.  I tried several different things 
>> but couldn't rotate it.  So I pulled the head off and discovered water 
>> on top of the pistons.  The car was complete- had the hood, carbs, air 
>> cleaner on it, so no stray raindrops got in there.  So there is more to 
>> the story that they aren't telling.  As of now I don't know if I need to 
>> have my block bored and get new pistons if those are even available, or 
>> look for a new short block.
>>
>>     
>>> Am I the only one that's tired of ads that say "This car was a running
>>> and driving car when..." ???
>>>       
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  6 17:56:18 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 16:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
In-Reply-To: <C8315640.27B06%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <601361.85333.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

singer over the bar, guitarist at the bar, bassist no doubt under the bar....

--- On Sun, 6/6/10, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
To: "Mike Rambour" <lists at dinospider.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 3:42 PM

The Coach House Concert Theatre in San Juan Capistrano, CA has a Singer
roadster over the bar. The engine and gearbox were last seen sitting behind
the building, next the crumbling double-decker bus. The owners name is Gary.
I think somebody should make him an offer. He told me it was a 1935, but I
think it's early fifties.
BZ
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 19:00:45 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 19:00:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <4C0C30B5.3030703@tx.rr.com>
References: <20100606190944.YZSLY.656214.imail@fed1rmwml41>
	<4C0C30B5.3030703@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikffbASyxvzIYxnsofeUvBd4asMkdINZNUNIFlu@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:35 PM, BJNoSHOV8 <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:
Here is my plan, you guys comment if I'm missing something:
1.  Pull the short block out of the car, leave the trans. in the car.
2.  Knock the pistons out individually from below.
3.  Evaluate the condition of the cylinder bores, but I'm expecting
them to be bad.
4a.  Bore the block and procure new pistons and rings.
4b.  Procure a new block or short block and separate pistons and rings.
5.  Reassemble.

I don't have a full time shop to work in (My dad's garage is 150 miles
away).  I'll have to either rent a hoist to pull the engine or
jury-rig something, which is why I've been hesitant to pull the engine
up until now.  But now I have to step up my game and get it going.



Find a good running MGB engine and stick it in there. You can get them
cheap most anywhere that they rust!

Find an old swing set to use as an "A" frame and get a cheapo HF
come-a-long for $8. Lift the engine out with it... You don't need no
stinking hoist!


--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sun Jun  6 19:03:10 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 20:03:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <89C681C4E62E49AD9A924D66B94632E1@spider>
References: <20100606190944.YZSLY.656214.imail@fed1rmwml41>
	<4C0C30B5.3030703@tx.rr.com> <89C681C4E62E49AD9A924D66B94632E1@spider>
Message-ID: <4C0C454E.9000707@tx.rr.com>

I don't think this engine has much ridge, but I worked in a garage for 6 
years and I've seen some major ridges.  We even had a cutter device that 
would remove some of the ridge before trying to remove the pistons 
because most bigger engines will only allow the pistons to come out the top.

> If you have a ridge at the tops of the bores, you may want to push the
> pistons out thru the bottom of the block.  ...bill in corvallis

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sun Jun  6 19:34:19 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:34:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Strange cranking problem Update
In-Reply-To: <201005270953595.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <BAY145-w30363B2FB4DFAF4E99B7A1C2EA0@phx.gbl>,
	<201005270953595.SM04324@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w4867DCFCF2BB4762D63C2DC2D50@phx.gbl>

Hi all,



Just wanted to drop a note to update my strange starter woe.
It appears my original Lucas starter needs a rebuild.
I took it out and tried bench testing it,
it alternately will not spin, spin slow or spin normally.

So I thought I would try a gear reduction starter, as I have pretty high
compression.
I didn't want to spend $190 or so, so I thought I would try
a Trooper starter.
Found one on Fleabay, rebuilt, for $32 plus shipping, total $41.25 to my
door!!!
Figured it was worth a shot.
I had to massage the passenger side footwell a bit as it was just touching.
 Aussie Andrew had previously said, he thought it was because of his
5 speed conversion. I don't think the conversion is the problem, I have a 1098
and a ribcase.
After I got the wiring figured out, (Thanks Phil)
you have to connect the normal heavy black wire from the solenoid underneath,
and add a smaller wire, from the same spot on the solenoid and run it to the
spade connector underneath the starter.

It works great!
I also cleaned up the ground connections....
Now I just have to figure out why it won't run, but that is another post.
The one I got is Ebay item #170466956201
or
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170466956201&v
iewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> ====
> At 10:19 AM 5/27/2010, brian S wrote:
> >HI all,
> >
> >On my Bugeye, I have noticed a strange thing when cranking the car.
> >If the ignition switch is not on, the car will crank normally, I think for
a
> >stock starter.
> >When I turn the ignition on, the cranking slows noticeably, seemingly
> >barely enough so the car will fire.
> >  Fully charged battery. Car has a generator, electric fuel pump and
points
> >ignition.
> >Any ideas?
> >
> >Brian S.
> >Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>

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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Sun Jun  6 20:49:46 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:49:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch & Whatnot
Message-ID: <SNT124-W35108396B78D1C7CC74B45B7D50@phx.gbl>

Thanks to all who replied to my question about pulling the engine, or engine &
transmission, in my '73 Midget.



Thanks to your advice, I have decided to pull the two together.  There are so
many goofy things done (and not done) by the DPO, it's probably better that I
get the whole thing out and have a good look at it anyway.



I'll let you know how it goes.



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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jun  6 21:06:36 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:06:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Westown Car show...
In-Reply-To: <9A646931385048348E511015C83661BD@blackbox2>
References: <9A646931385048348E511015C83661BD@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <61F9ED7E70914A74BB4A770F4211652D@blackbox2>

This was a great British car show.

Nice venue, good weather, respectable turnout.

Strangely, There were not many spridgets in attendance.
but there was a varied assortment of everything else British. 

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 22:08:50 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 21:08:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch pedal on a '76...
In-Reply-To: <4C0AD8B5.941.45D559@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4C0AD8B5.941.45D559@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikN4TZm8pK6U2B7vRjdcnf57bjeuZQ28uBDBRL6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> Is there supposed to be a "stop" bolt for the clutch pedal on a '76
> RB Midget to prevent clutch over travel?
>
> Or do I have a different problem..!
>
> Pushing the clutch pedal to the wall makes the clutch squeal !!
>


Problem with the thrust washers?
Hal

From lists at dinospider.com  Sun Jun  6 22:46:08 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:46:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
In-Reply-To: <C8315640.27B06%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C8315640.27B06%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4C0C7990.80500@dinospider.com>

  Its a 1952 to 1955 Singer 4AD, and the owner does not seem to want to 
get rid of the motor/gearbox :(  I have tried :(

     For a picture of it   
http://www.singercars.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=518&p=2081&hilit=San+Juan#p2081

         mike


  On 6/6/2010 1:42 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:
> The Coach House Concert Theatre in San Juan Capistrano, CA has a Singer
> roadster over the bar. The engine and gearbox were last seen sitting behind
> the building, next the crumbling double-decker bus. The owners name is Gary.
> I think somebody should make him an offer. He told me it was a 1935, but I
> think it's early fifties.
> BZ

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 00:16:54 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 01:16:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
In-Reply-To: <601361.85333.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C8315640.27B06%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<601361.85333.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinuGOKEXnB5nuYOlAe4oFZY6kz6SNbJKdFRFiL9@mail.gmail.com>

Every good band needs a Singer, eh Billy?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> singer over the bar, guitarist at the bar, bassist no doubt under the
> bar....
>
> --- On Sun, 6/6/10, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>
> From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
> To: "Mike Rambour" <lists at dinospider.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 3:42 PM
>
> The Coach House Concert Theatre in San Juan Capistrano, CA has a Singer
> roadster over the bar. The engine and gearbox were last seen sitting behind
> the building, next the crumbling double-decker bus. The owners name is
> Gary.
> I think somebody should make him an offer. He told me it was a 1935, but I
> think it's early fifties.
> BZ
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Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From richard at kleihorst.com  Mon Jun  7 02:01:41 2010
From: richard at kleihorst.com (Richard Kleihorst)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 01:01:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] handbrake and windscreen washer troubles
Message-ID: <11549.55032.qm@web112416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi list,
 
I am preparing to get a '59 bugeye through testing to  go back on the road.
However, I have
challenges left:
 
The operating rods left and right for the handbrake do not seem to go back
that easily after applying the handbrake. The wheels drag severely and the
rods have to be pulled back by hand. Everythings seems loose, well greased and
no play. Is there a pull-back string somewhere that I am missing? I need to
put the shoes quite sharp in order to have some effect in the handbrake
action.

Also, how does one prime the windshield washer pump? Or do I need to install
additional
anti-flow back valves in the lines?
 
Thanks,


Richard

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Jun  7 04:36:20 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 10:36:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Westown Car show...
In-Reply-To: <61F9ED7E70914A74BB4A770F4211652D@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <1388501215.2486011275906980095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

well i tried to get there, but the car had other ideas..... 
ryan 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net> 
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, June 6, 2010 11:06:36 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Westown Car show... 

This was a great British car show. 

Nice venue, good weather, respectable turnout. 

Strangely, There were not many spridgets in attendance. 
but there was a varied assortment of everything else British. 
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From richard at kleihorst.com  Mon Jun  7 05:49:43 2010
From: richard at kleihorst.com (Richard Kleihorst)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 04:49:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
Message-ID: <129189.33545.qm@web112417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi,
 
I once had frozen pistons on a landrover. I basically took off the sump and
disconnected the conrods. Turn the crank a bit and with a piece of wood  tap
the pistons from above downwards. This will loosen them up and after cleaning
up the bores a bit you can push them
up to get them out. Afterwards I just honed the bores and placed back the
cylinders with new rings. The bores turned out to be in good condition
afteralI. did this outside on a saturday afternoon and the car has been
running well before I sold it to the scouting.
Take care though to not have any grit, sand, rust get into the crankshaft area
or oil lines.  

Richard

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun  7 06:30:32 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 05:30:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <129189.33545.qm@web112417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <129189.33545.qm@web112417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1A4CAFA676744AE796C4C0251D918DFD@spider>

I had some frozen aluminum pistons in a Mercedes engine years ago. I wanted
to save the pistons. Pulled the head and tried all manner of solvents and
oils. Pounded on them with a wooden block the size of each piston and heated
the pistons from the top. Spent a month on the project. Finally put dry ice
on the top of each piston and got them out. The piston ring lands had turned
to powder given the years; aluminum oxide. ...bill in corvallis
===================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Kleihorst
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 4:50 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA

Hi,
 
I once had frozen pistons on a landrover. I basically took off the sump and
disconnected the conrods. Turn the crank a bit and with a piece of wood  tap
the pistons from above downwards. This will loosen them up and after
cleaning
up the bores a bit you can push them
up to get them out. Afterwards I just honed the bores and placed back the
cylinders with new rings. The bores turned out to be in good condition
afteralI. did this outside on a saturday afternoon and the car has been
running well before I sold it to the scouting.
Take care though to not have any grit, sand, rust get into the crankshaft
area
or oil lines.  

Richard
_______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun  7 08:43:29 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:43:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought that this was amusing - NO LBC CONTENT
In-Reply-To: <4C0AE33F.8090707@justbrits.com>
References: <BAY147-w2705F3D66625644F06A148B8D30@phx.gbl>,
	<3DC18706A8B347B4A8F9D14E5EEC8F8F@spider>,
	<BAY147-w56C2C45717495EB4CE9C8B8D30@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTimy4f3Kw8QOKC3FoN_3xwKWsQo_KH6xNSC5GNI0@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4C0AE33F.8090707@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w518C0F0665A35203CF2B9DB8D50@phx.gbl>

I didn't know what "MPM" was and had to search for it.
This explains a lot!!!  :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPM_(psychedelic)

RD

> Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 18:52:31 -0500
>
> Ya BLEW it, Kent !!!
>
> << but who really uses mph anymore? ;)
>
> Real men do!!! >>
>
> I use MPM !!
>
> Youse must be some kinda wimp !?!
>
> LMAO    [ and TNX for 'opening'!! ]
> _______________________________________________

From paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Jun  7 09:27:33 2010
From: paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Baker)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 15:27:33 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Fluid problem
Message-ID: <175676.82577.qm@web23503.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Last year I fitted new brake and clutch master cylinders and a new slave
cylinder on my sprite and used Castrol Response Super Dot 4 fluid in both
clutch and braking systems .  One year on the fluid in the Clutch m/c turned
dark grey and very thick and slave and m/c rubbers failed.  After a month with
new clutch master/slave cylinders the fluid is turning grey again.  The fluid
in the brake m/c is fine.  What's causing the fluid to change colour and go
thick, are the rubber seals disintegrating or the fluid oxidising the
castings?  And why the clutch system but not the brake system?

Your thoughts
would be much appreciated.

Paul

65 Sprite

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun  7 10:38:46 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:38:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another barn find... MGA
In-Reply-To: <4C0C454E.9000707@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C8326EA6.27B71%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

If it's been re-ringed, the ridge will have been reamed off. You need to
measure the bores for wear and taper.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun  7 10:43:24 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:43:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinuGOKEXnB5nuYOlAe4oFZY6kz6SNbJKdFRFiL9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8326FBC.27B74%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

No comment.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 11:14:27 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:14:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Fluid problem
In-Reply-To: <175676.82577.qm@web23503.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <175676.82577.qm@web23503.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikh-a0z3nBXW3TKRAh5zkqxGH8PiwSsb_KNrqpM@mail.gmail.com>

Are you using DOT 3? That could eat away at the innards of the units. DOT 4
is a MUST, and DOT 5 Silicone is an option.

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Paul Baker <paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Last year I fitted new brake and clutch master cylinders and a new slave
> cylinder on my sprite and used Castrol Response Super Dot 4 fluid in both
> clutch and braking systems .  One year on the fluid in the Clutch m/c
> turned
> dark grey and very thick and slave and m/c rubbers failed.  After a month
> with
> new clutch master/slave cylinders the fluid is turning grey again.  The
> fluid
> in the brake m/c is fine.  What's causing the fluid to change colour and go
> thick, are the rubber seals disintegrating or the fluid oxidising the
> castings?  And why the clutch system but not the brake system?
>
> Your thoughts
> would be much appreciated.
>
> Paul
>
> 65 Sprite
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jun  7 13:46:20 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 12:46:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Fluid problem
Message-ID: <4c5301cb067a$1a089d20$116a010a@mail2world.com>

He did asy DOT4 in his original post....
 
My guess may be crappy rubber in repro parts.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Brad Fornal [tequila.brad at gmail.com]
Sent: 6/7/2010 1:14:27 PM
To: paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clutch Fluid problem 

Are you using DOT 3? That could eat away at the innards of the units.
DOT 4 
is a MUST, and DOT 5 Silicone is an option. 

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Paul Baker <paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk>
wrote: 

> Last year I fitted new brake and clutch master cylinders and a new
slave 
> cylinder on my sprite and used Castrol Response Super Dot 4 fluid in
both 
> clutch and braking systems . One year on the fluid in the Clutch m/c 
> turned 
> dark grey and very thick and slave and m/c rubbers failed. After a
month 
> with 
> new clutch master/slave cylinders the fluid is turning grey again. The
> fluid 
> in the brake m/c is fine. What's causing the fluid to change colour
and go 
> thick, are the rubber seals disintegrating or the fluid oxidising the 
> castings? And why the clutch system but not the brake system? 
> 
> Your thoughts 
> would be much appreciated. 
> 
> Paul 
> 
> 65 Sprite 
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 14:48:25 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 13:48:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter
Message-ID: <AANLkTimMIozhAzgr1Imaa9GhFB30Rx7CLPbPfB8WVFB8@mail.gmail.com>

Nice buy on the starter. .  good research going on.  I had no idea that they
would fit a Spridget.

I went the other way and bought (a few years ago) a Japanese manufactured
gear redux which has been serving faithfully through the years.

Would have gone your route for the savings had I done the correct research!

Kirk

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  7 14:53:19 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 16:53:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Montana Bob
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w4058A3F6037EBCF6D8BF4FB8D20@phx.gbl>
References: <000401cb0354$3c1ab2f0$b45018d0$@net>, ,
	<AANLkTikDNSfHVVSeQxPCuOpTPw-aph3cd1uznbdDQShZ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BAY147-w4058A3F6037EBCF6D8BF4FB8D20@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w5854FCFC52ADC255719BD2C2D50@phx.gbl>

I always thought it was Ed, or some guy in Ct.
 ;-()

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:14:19 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Montana Bob
>
> Didn't someone fess up ( or insinuate that he may have been responsible )
to
> pulling our collective leg with the Montana Bob adventure?
>
> Canada Robert
> ( I heard cats before. ;) )
>
> > Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 16:26:23 -0500
> > From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
> >
> > I joined very shortly after his departure. The gist of what I got, was he
> > was a raging "on-topic only" A-hole.
> > Trying to keep this list on topic, is like trying to herd cats....
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Adrian Jones
> > <adrianjones747 at earthlink.net>wrote:
> >
> > > I've been on the list for years but don't remember  Montana Bob.
> > >
> > > Every now and then his name pops up - what was it all about?
>  > _______________________________________________
> _________________

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  7 16:04:40 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:04:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] handbrake and windscreen washer troubles
In-Reply-To: <11549.55032.qm@web112416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <11549.55032.qm@web112416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C0D6CF8.4050808@comcast.net>

How is the hand brake cable?
If it's rusted up, it will be hard to release.

Priming the washer pump can be done 2 ways, low air pressure on top of 
the bottle or suck on the hose. (by mouth)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Jun  7 18:01:22 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 17:01:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
Message-ID: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

          I'm about to be replacing my tires (6 years old) and wheels,
          (FINALLY someone is about to be making something I like) and
          am taking a poll as to which tires (THAT ARE AVAILABLE)
          people prefer. The rims will be 5 1/2" wide, lug centric,
          with a 4" backspace.

          All I've found in "summer performance" is the Sumitomo HTR
          200. .. the guy who has the wheels (Hap Waldrop, Acme Speed Shop)
          recommends the General Tire Altimax.

          The people say..............????????????

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity 

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jun  7 18:46:28 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 19:46:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Fluid problem
In-Reply-To: <4c5301cb067a$1a089d20$116a010a@mail2world.com>
References: <4c5301cb067a$1a089d20$116a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <4C0D92E4.9070101@justbrits.com>

<< He did asy DOT4 in his original post.... >>

Well Chris, IMHO he only sorta did <VBEG> !!

He DID say "Castrol Response Super Dot 4 fluid in" which I have
never heard of much less know if it IS Dot 4 ?!?  However,
I also had the 1st thought of a rubber "reaction" but like
Paul asked:  "And why the clutch system but not the brake system?"
IS the question of a least the week <G> !?!

I would wonder if Paul actually had forced-air cleaned AND
run either alcohol or some of the new fluid thru the line
PRIOR to filling the system.  Ergo, leaving OLD, who knows
what "fluid" in the line.

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[including SPRIDGET stuff !!]

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jun  7 19:18:28 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 20:18:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Montana Bob
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w5854FCFC52ADC255719BD2C2D50@phx.gbl>
References: <000401cb0354$3c1ab2f0$b45018d0$@net>, ,
	<AANLkTikDNSfHVVSeQxPCuOpTPw-aph3cd1uznbdDQShZ@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BAY147-w4058A3F6037EBCF6D8BF4FB8D20@phx.gbl>
	<BAY145-w5854FCFC52ADC255719BD2C2D50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C0D9A64.6030302@justbrits.com>

<< I always thought it was Ed, or some guy in Ct. >>

I WAS accused of dat a couple times Brian, but even *I*
couldn't be THAT "bad" !!  LOL
Besides, if you will remember I got a few 'shots' also<G>!!

Now as far as pilots go, NOT A CHANCE !!  Ain't got the
"brains" !!!!

LMAO !!!

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun  7 19:39:29 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 18:39:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
In-Reply-To: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <C832ED61.27BA8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I very much like the HTR200's on my CRX. They might be a little grippy for
drifting a Sprite. 

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Mon Jun  7 20:23:44 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:23:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
References: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <9A461A9DFE8B4C409AA9EFC7E4D51E59@Dell9200>

Bill, I have the HTR200's on my Bugeye and they have been great tires, very 
little weight, smooth, and sticky.  175's are probably too wide for a square 
body car though.

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com
58 "Bugeye"
-


Hello Spridgets,


          All I've found in "summer performance" is the Sumitomo HTR
          200. .. the guy who has the wheels (Hap Waldrop, Acme Speed Shop)
          recommends the General Tire Altimax.

          The people say..............????????????

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  7 20:23:50 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:23:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] TACH no spin
Message-ID: <723146.89215.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

My tach gearbox off the generator is broken.  The little shaft on
the large
gear that connects to the tach cable sheared.  Any ideas on a
replacement or a
fix?  Vic Brit for $80 or Moss for $95?  Other?
Just got the little guy on the
road and learning (expensively) what to lube.
Thanks, Skip AN5-/L37190

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jun  7 20:25:47 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:25:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
Message-ID: <036901cb06b1$e7a29100$056a010a@mail2world.com>

I have the HTR200s on my Midget and like them a lot.

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Bill L [pythias at pacifier.com]
>Sent: 6/7/2010 8:01:22 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
>
>Hello Spridgets,
>
> I'm about to be replacing my tires (6 years old) and wheels,
> (FINALLY someone is about to be making something I like) and
> am taking a poll as to which tires (THAT ARE AVAILABLE)
> people prefer. The rims will be 5 1/2" wide, lug centric,
> with a 4" backspace.
>
> All I've found in "summer performance" is the Sumitomo HTR
> 200. .. the guy who has the wheels (Hap Waldrop, Acme Speed Shop)
> recommends the General Tire Altimax.
>
> The people say..............????????????
>
>-- 
>Best regards,
> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> 
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing"
> 
> Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity 
>_______________________________________________
>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  7 20:30:15 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:30:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
In-Reply-To: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
References: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinNxuJu3u6WhnFtPZSuzuYeMVG1-1cErwzFIwbU@mail.gmail.com>

I had some BFGoodrichs crammed on some wires that did pretty well.
IIRC they were 175/70s and I mounted them by hand because I didn't
trust the guy at Sams to mount them without damaging the wire wheels.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  7 20:45:47 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:45:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
In-Reply-To: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
References: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <4C0DAEDB.5080308@comcast.net>

On 6/7/2010 8:01 PM, Bill L wrote:

>
>            The people say..............????????????
>

I have 4 Sprites in the family, all are running Sumitumos and everybody 
loves those tires.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Jun  7 20:51:45 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:51:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] TACH no spin
In-Reply-To: <723146.89215.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <723146.89215.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <691150.53292.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Look for an NOS unit.

 jay




________________________________
From: Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com>
To: spridget <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, June 7, 2010 10:23:50 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] TACH no spin

My tach gearbox off the generator is broken.  The little shaft on
the large
gear that connects to the tach cable sheared.  Any ideas on a
replacement or a
fix?  Vic Brit for $80 or Moss for $95?  Other?
Just got the little guy on the
road and learning (expensively) what to lube.
Thanks, Skip AN5-/L37190

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  7 20:57:09 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 22:57:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
In-Reply-To: <9A461A9DFE8B4C409AA9EFC7E4D51E59@Dell9200>
References: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
	<9A461A9DFE8B4C409AA9EFC7E4D51E59@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <4C0DB185.7060508@comcast.net>

On 6/7/2010 10:23 PM, Mark wrote:
   175's are probably too wide for a square body car though.

I have them on stock rims on a stock square body 67 Sprite, they are fine.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Mon Jun  7 21:11:49 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 20:11:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] TACH no spin
In-Reply-To: <723146.89215.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <723146.89215.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimIl9351KN3PCBnkAIM5Leneq2I6QnsaIRENBTq@mail.gmail.com>

Don't buy the junk from Moss or Vicky Brit.  Best to wait until an original
one comes up on Ebay.  The "new" ones from the usual suspects is junk pot
metal and you would be lucky if it lasts for a month.  Maybe someone on the
list has one they would part with. Or you could put the mechanical tach face
on a later electric one...
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com> wrote:

> My tach gearbox off the generator is broken.  The little shaft on
> the large
> gear that connects to the tach cable sheared.  Any ideas on a
> replacement or a
> fix?  Vic Brit for $80 or Moss for $95?  Other?
> Just got the little guy on the
> road and learning (expensively) what to lube.
> Thanks, Skip AN5-/L37190
> _______________________________________________
>
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From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Mon Jun  7 21:33:49 2010
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:33:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust system
In-Reply-To: <mailman.18411.1275906921.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.18411.1275906921.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <E08AFD85-E14E-4316-9CB1-23A9C5311096@comcast.net>

Does anyone know what size nuts and bolts are needed to place an  
exhaust system on a 1275 cc motor? I have the system but no  
hardware.This system has a metal gasket flange.

From paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk  Tue Jun  8 02:32:46 2010
From: paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk (Paul Baker)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:32:46 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw:  Clutch Fluid problem
In-Reply-To: <4C0D92E4.9070101@justbrits.com>
References: <4c5301cb067a$1a089d20$116a010a@mail2world.com>
	<4C0D92E4.9070101@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <864003.79957.qm@web23505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Castrol Response is a leading UK brake fluid which is Dot 4 rated.   To answer
your question Ed, I replaced the m/c and slave at the same time and ran new
fluid through the system to flush out any old fluid left in the pipe, then
bled the system.


I spoke to Castrol tech support yesterday and they said
they have never heard of this product causing that problem, but have asked me
to send a sample of the fluid in the m/c and a seal from the old m/c which I
will be doing shortly.

Since finding this problem I have identified two other
Sprite owners facing the same problem.

Paul





<< He did asy DOT4 in his
original post.... >>

Well Chris, IMHO he only sorta did <VBEG> !!

He DID say
"Castrol Response Super Dot 4 fluid in" which I have
never heard of much less
know if it IS Dot 4 ?!?  However,
I also had the 1st thought of a rubber
"reaction" but like
Paul asked:  "And why the clutch system but not the brake
system?"
IS the question of a least the week <G> !?!

I would wonder if Paul
actually had forced-air cleaned AND
run either alcohol or some of the new
fluid thru the line
PRIOR to filling the system.  Ergo, leaving OLD, who knows
what "fluid" in the line.

Ed

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun  8 08:57:28 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:57:28 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
In-Reply-To: <C8326FBC.27B74%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTinuGOKEXnB5nuYOlAe4oFZY6kz6SNbJKdFRFiL9@mail.gmail.com>,
	<C8326FBC.27B74%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w4254736C2EC658234CA6D9B8D60@phx.gbl>

Isn't that a comment?

RD
> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 09:43:24 -0700
> From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com
>
> No comment.
> _______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun  8 10:46:15 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:46:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w4254736C2EC658234CA6D9B8D60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C833C1E7.27BFF%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Isn't that a comment?
No comment.

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Tue Jun  8 12:51:51 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 11:51:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
Message-ID: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>

What's the proper torque on the rear axle hub nut?

I have a leak in the o-ring and gasket, and was going to look at the 
inner seal, but I cannot budge the hub nut by myself. The tab on the 
lock washer is missing altogether, so I'm wondering if this isn't some 
DPO trick.

Thanks,
Dave Ambrose

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 14:02:43 2010
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:02:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
References: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimBqF4d_-69pHQTajJ3j79PJzbsTqkCII6d_AJ_@mail.gmail.com>

What side are you working on?  The left side has a left hand thread.

Brian

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:
> What's the proper torque on the rear axle hub nut?
>
> I have a leak in the o-ring and gasket, and was going to look at the inner
> seal, but I cannot budge the hub nut by myself. The tab on the lock washer
> is missing altogether, so I'm wondering if this isn't some DPO trick.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Ambrose
> _______________________________________________
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 14:02:51 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:02:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
References: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilFKzC6HqAWcHCMUv3s_w6VB6NXgeRnsE0ovuFE@mail.gmail.com>

David,
FIRST:
The left side is left handed thread!
I'll look up the  correct torque and send another post!
Hal

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:51 AM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:

> What's the proper torque on the rear axle hub nut?
>
> I have a leak in the o-ring and gasket, and was going to look at the inner
> seal, but I cannot budge the hub nut by myself. The tab on the lock washer
> is missing altogether, so I'm wondering if this isn't some DPO trick.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Ambrose
> _______________________________________________
>
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From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 14:22:04 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:22:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
References: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
Message-ID: <88F91136-29C6-4DCC-99C6-63D7A090F978@gmail.com>

Dave,

Are you sure you are turning it the correct direction?

They tighten in the direction of forward motion of the car, so one  
side is left hand thread and the other is right hand thread.

Passenger side is right hand thread and drivers side is left hand  
thread......

Kevin V.






On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:51 PM, David Ambrose wrote:

> What's the proper torque on the rear axle hub nut?
>
> I have a leak in the o-ring and gasket, and was going to look at  
> the inner seal, but I cannot budge the hub nut by myself. The tab  
> on the lock washer is missing altogether, so I'm wondering if this  
> isn't some DPO trick.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Ambrose
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 14:30:58 2010
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:30:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
References: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimSnEgC9p4oDgy8OqUpxlSuZHDiKFdy4U6sqSnu@mail.gmail.com>

Which side is it on?  One of the sides (driver's, I believe) is reverse
thread.

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:

> What's the proper torque on the rear axle hub nut?
>
> I have a leak in the o-ring and gasket, and was going to look at the inner
> seal, but I cannot budge the hub nut by myself. The tab on the lock washer
> is missing altogether, so I'm wondering if this isn't some DPO trick.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Ambrose
> _______________________________________________

From bkitterer at me.com  Tue Jun  8 14:37:18 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Bob Kitterer)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 13:37:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
References: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
Message-ID: <25867679-BB79-4CCB-A871-65E7E98AC117@me.com>

Are you turning it the correct direction?One side is left hand threads  
-- passenger side I think.

Sent from my iPod
Bob

On Jun 8, 2010, at 11:51 AM, David Ambrose <stargazer1 at cox.net> wrote:

> What's the proper torque on the rear axle hub nut?
>
> I have a leak in the o-ring and gasket, and was going to look at the  
> inner seal, but I cannot budge the hub nut by myself. The tab on the  
> lock washer is missing altogether, so I'm wondering if this isn't  
> some DPO trick.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Ambrose
> _______________________________________________
>
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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Jun  8 15:35:15 2010
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 17:35:15 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
Message-ID: <6cbca.6c988f85.39401193@aol.com>

Forget referencing the "drivers" side, that would depend on  whether it's 
RHD or LHD.
 
Regardless of where the driver sits, the left hand side is a reverse  
thread. (Righty loosey, lefty tighty)
 
Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.
'60 AH Bugeye
'68 Austin Mini

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Tue Jun  8 16:29:27 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 15:29:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimBqF4d_-69pHQTajJ3j79PJzbsTqkCII6d_AJ_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C0E9147.6060600@cox.net>
	<AANLkTimBqF4d_-69pHQTajJ3j79PJzbsTqkCII6d_AJ_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0EC447.7070204@cox.net>

On 6/8/2010 1:02 PM, brian wrote:
> What side are you working on?  The left side has a left hand thread.
>    
Thanks for all the reminders. I had that handedness thing figured out. 
The Haynes manual mentions this prominently and Moss catalog handily 
calls out different nuts for left and right sides. I'm turning the 
drivers side clockwise to loosen it.

I think my primary problem is the socket I'm using. It's tapered inside 
and 12 pointed. The hub nut is thin and it's slipping off before I can 
really apply a lot of torque to the nut. Am going to try to find a 1 7/8 
impact socket. If I can't then I'll grind off the taper from the socket 
I have.

Frank, I'm going to do both sides. Doesn't make any sense just to fix one.

Looking closely at the hub, it looks like some DPO broke off the lock 
tab, and used a chisel to remove it some time in the past.

I think I'll go watch Bang the Head Slowly.

DPOriffically Yours,
Dave Ambrose

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 17:37:04 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:37:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
In-Reply-To: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
References: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <8F4864687BB64FF1B140DB472093ACF6@blackbox2>

>I'm about to be replacing my tires (6 years old) and wheels,
>(FINALLY someone is about to be making something I like)


What are they about to make that you like?
Maybe the rest of us would like them also if we knew what they were...

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jun  8 17:56:20 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:56:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Poll-- 175/70-13 tire choice.
In-Reply-To: <8F4864687BB64FF1B140DB472093ACF6@blackbox2>
References: <597544903.20100607170122@pacifier.com>
	<8F4864687BB64FF1B140DB472093ACF6@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <836178092.20100608165620@pacifier.com>

Hello Dean,

       VTO Retro 4 in Black.


     http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/682803/First_peek_New_Retro_4#Post682803


     has a picture. Hap Waldrop at Acme Speed Shop will have them soon
     after they start making them. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Mind if I clean my fly swatter over your soup? 

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 18:11:07 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 20:11:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Westown Car show...
In-Reply-To: <1388501215.2486011275906980095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <61F9ED7E70914A74BB4A770F4211652D@blackbox2>
	<1388501215.2486011275906980095.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <D71D6E923D2249A7AEC7ADD45CE76F73@blackbox2>

You missed a nice show Ryan.

What kind of other ideas did the car have?

Can you regroup for Hellertown by next Sunday?

 

>From where the burnt out Midget was, it's a 35 minute ride up 611 and then
you cut over west 5 miles.

Email me off list, maybe we can get a wagon train going.

 

Something closer this coming Saturday evening..

http://www.wglions.com/auto.html

It's not British specific; I suspect there will be bit of everything. 

 

 

 

  _____  

From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net [mailto:ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net] 



 

well i tried to get there, but the car had other ideas.....
ryan

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 18:30:37 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:30:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Mitten 1965
Message-ID: <4C0EE0AD.1020104@comcast.net>

A local guy just handed me a 1965 MG Mitten catalog.
I want to go back in time and order 10 of everything then go sell it on 
Ebay so I can retire!
Lucas fog lamps, $14.95
Sprite tops, $43, MGTD tops are on special for $34.95.
Sprite carpet set $14.95
Astro fiberglass hard tops that give the Sprite a fastback look $155
But shipping a hardtop from CA to the east coast was $10, $6 to Colorado.
Lucas mirrors for $6, Sports coil $9.95,
Amco mats, $12, specify color!!! Clear mats $14
Luggage racks from $22
How about a tonneau cover for $19.95?
Sprite reupholstery kits $49.95
And you guys don't want to know what the Amco bumper guards cost new.
It makes me want to cry. Let's just say the most expensive was for the 
Jaguar E type at $24.95.
And i think I'll take a gross of every Amco shift knob for $3.25 each.
This book is packed with goodies that you only dream about today.
It even has a color car cover swatch on one of the pages.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun  8 18:40:52 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 17:40:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <4C0EC447.7070204@cox.net>
Message-ID: <C8343124.27C37%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

The 1 7/8 combination wrench from Harbor Freight works well. Sockets often
don't because the nuts are so deformed from people using chisels instead of
wrenches. You can pretty much always get the open end on two of the flats.
A piece of pipe won't hurt either.
BZ

From bkitterer at me.com  Tue Jun  8 19:21:45 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:21:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <6cbca.6c988f85.39401193@aol.com>
References: <6cbca.6c988f85.39401193@aol.com>
Message-ID: <E9B3223C-2A5D-4522-B234-54BA89B899DA@me.com>

Are you looking at it from the front or the back ???      :-)

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
2000 Miata Special Edition - in storage

On Jun 8, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Miniac7 at aol.com wrote:

> Forget referencing the "drivers" side, that would depend on whether it's RHD or LHD.
>  
> Regardless of where the driver sits, the left hand side is a reverse thread. (Righty loosey, lefty tighty)
>  
> Howard Collins
> Virginia Beach, VA.
> '60 AH Bugeye
> '68 Austin Mini

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun  8 20:34:59 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:34:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <E9B3223C-2A5D-4522-B234-54BA89B899DA@me.com>
References: <6cbca.6c988f85.39401193@aol.com>
	<E9B3223C-2A5D-4522-B234-54BA89B899DA@me.com>
Message-ID: <5952526329874077557@unknownmsgid>

> Are you looking at it from the front or the back ???      :-)

The multi-industry standard is that right, left, front, back, etc. are
determined based on the position of the operator of the equipment.
David L

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun  8 21:07:26 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 23:07:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
Message-ID: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net>

I am selling my 2001 Ford F-150 pick up.
My new truck is coming in next week.
2 wheel drive, 5 speed, V6, AC, everything works, well maintained.
It could use 2 tires, not real bad but not great either.
Comes with System One aluminum ladder racks.
It will tow a Sprite on a trailer anywhere, believe me I know ;)
114,000 miles, no major dents but is does have typical work truck dings 
and scratches, it still looks good with chrome bumpers and wheels.
Looking to get $3900 for it, a little less without the racks.

See it here
http://tinyurl.com/2ed3y3w


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Jun  8 21:13:26 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:13:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] '79 Midget $400 Prosser WA
Message-ID: <4C0F06D6.12247.696D25@kk7ss.verizon.net>

http://kpr.craigslist.org/cto/1708689510.html

NFI, Yada Yada

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 00:15:08 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 01:15:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
In-Reply-To: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net>
References: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinEMlyJSt08WAHjc5jPwxYYZ0WV5X0Jr3rQnKxf@mail.gmail.com>

I have driven this truck...  When a guy shoots his leg with a nail gun and
can't work the clutch he needs a friend to ferry him around  ;-)

 It is very well maintained and a real bargain at that price.  Somebody dive
in, help Frank out and get a great truck to boot!   I need a second truck
like I need a hole in the head.  Okay - ANOTHER hole in the head...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> I am selling my 2001 Ford F-150 pick up.
> My new truck is coming in next week.
> 2 wheel drive, 5 speed, V6, AC, everything works, well maintained.
> It could use 2 tires, not real bad but not great either.
> Comes with System One aluminum ladder racks.
> It will tow a Sprite on a trailer anywhere, believe me I know ;)
> 114,000 miles, no major dents but is does have typical work truck dings and
> scratches, it still looks good with chrome bumpers and wheels.
> Looking to get $3900 for it, a little less without the racks.
>
> See it here
> http://tinyurl.com/2ed3y3w
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman at gmail.com
>
>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From lists at brits-n-pieces.com  Wed Jun  9 01:30:00 2010
From: lists at brits-n-pieces.com (lists)
Date: 9 Jun 2010 09:30:00 +0200
Subject: [Spridgets] =?utf-8?q?NOT_Spridget_related_-_looking_for_TR250/TR?=
	=?utf-8?q?6_distributor?=
Message-ID: <MYFA_SERVER_II1u2mQ00004af5@www.erp-3.net>

Hi,

I'm looking for a Triumph TR250/TR6 ignition distributor. I know that this is the Spridget list but thought that since we are all more or less LBC affine, I'd ask this list as well.

So, if you have one or more of this distributor (condition not relevant) wasting shelf place and you don't need it any more, please contact me offline.

Eric

From colin at spriteparts.com.au  Wed Jun  9 02:07:39 2010
From: colin at spriteparts.com.au (Colin Dodds)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:07:39 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
Message-ID: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>

Guys, for the benefit of all of us, please stop using "driver's side" and
"passenger's side".

We don't all live on the same Continent.  Calling things passnegers or drivers
is going to result in some grief for someone - like the direction of thread
for the rear hub nuts.

Please use LEFT SIDE or RIGHT SIDE.  That's universal.

And remember - LEFT or RIGHT is ALWAYS taken from a seating position in the
car, not standing in front looking at it!

avagoodday
Colin
www.SpriteParts.com.au

From colin at spriteparts.com.au  Wed Jun  9 02:09:04 2010
From: colin at spriteparts.com.au (Colin Dodds)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:09:04 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
Message-ID: <1ddb01cb07ab$090cffc0$0200000a@Workstation1>

Dave, go to my web site.  I have the correct tool for the hub nuts.

avagoodday
Colin
www.SpriteParts.com.au

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 03:07:30 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:07:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>
References: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimnMGQ59mPU9wzoxgty8o_1qS_g3mBQ7Nd97C7E@mail.gmail.com>

I prefer Port and Starboard.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun  9 05:56:29 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:56:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimnMGQ59mPU9wzoxgty8o_1qS_g3mBQ7Nd97C7E@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTimnMGQ59mPU9wzoxgty8o_1qS_g3mBQ7Nd97C7E@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C0F816D.1050701@comcast.net>

On 6/9/2010 5:07 AM, derf wrote:
> I prefer Port and Starboard.

And Bow and Stern?
So I am looking for a bumper for the stern of a Midget I need to 
restore. Oh yeah and a bow badge. :)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun  9 07:13:04 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:13:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimnMGQ59mPU9wzoxgty8o_1qS_g3mBQ7Nd97C7E@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>,
	<AANLkTimnMGQ59mPU9wzoxgty8o_1qS_g3mBQ7Nd97C7E@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w4C332A357DC325DFD2593B8D70@phx.gbl>

Port is okay.  I prefer tequila.

Robert Duquette

Ottawa ON Canada

1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )

1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )

1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )  ( OMG! It's LHD!
)http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg



> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:07:30 -0600
> From: derf247 at gmail.com
>
> I prefer Port and Starboard.
> _______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun  9 10:54:55 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:54:55 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
Message-ID: <50ff0.19c18d2.3941215f@aol.com>

Same for up and down, Colin's always upside down!
 
In a message dated 09/06/2010 09:27:22 GMT Daylight Time,  
colin at spriteparts.com.au writes:

Guys,  for the benefit of all of us, please stop using "driver's side"  and
"passenger's side".

We don't all live on the same  Continent.  Calling things passnegers or 
drivers
is going to result in  some grief for someone - like the direction of thread
for the rear hub  nuts.

Please use LEFT SIDE or RIGHT SIDE.  That's  universal.

And remember - LEFT or RIGHT is ALWAYS taken from a seating  position in the
car, not standing in front looking at  it!

avagoodday
Colin
www.SpriteParts.com.au

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 11:32:55 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:32:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>
References: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilyo41XLgP1jnULavz0aq6aQDkVECXK5_92AVI1@mail.gmail.com>

What happened to "Near side" and Off side"??

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au>wrote:

> Guys, for the benefit of all of us, please stop using "driver's side" and
> "passenger's side".
>
> We don't all live on the same Continent.  Calling things passnegers or
> drivers
> is going to result in some grief for someone - like the direction of thread
> for the rear hub nuts.
>
> Please use LEFT SIDE or RIGHT SIDE.  That's universal.
>
> And remember - LEFT or RIGHT is ALWAYS taken from a seating position in the
> car, not standing in front looking at it!
>
> avagoodday
> Colin
> www.SpriteParts.com.au
> _______________________________________________

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun  9 12:01:43 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:01:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilyo41XLgP1jnULavz0aq6aQDkVECXK5_92AVI1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTilyo41XLgP1jnULavz0aq6aQDkVECXK5_92AVI1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA624D589949401DAF22D3F8D1203935@Home>

> What happened to "Near side" and Off side"??

Soccer or football?

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun  9 12:10:10 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 13:10:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilyo41XLgP1jnULavz0aq6aQDkVECXK5_92AVI1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTilyo41XLgP1jnULavz0aq6aQDkVECXK5_92AVI1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <832862536034406483@unknownmsgid>

> What happened to "Near side" and Off side"??

Just as useless as "driver" and "passenger", perhaps even more so.
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun  9 13:06:59 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 19:06:59 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilyo41XLgP1jnULavz0aq6aQDkVECXK5_92AVI1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>,
	<AANLkTilyo41XLgP1jnULavz0aq6aQDkVECXK5_92AVI1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w65E96DC7D9E4D71C5EE12AB8D70@phx.gbl>

Too confusing.  Always on the 'near side' trying to take something 'off'.
Then you go over to the 'off side' and you're no longer 'near'.

RD
> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:32:55 -0500
>
> What happened to "Near side" and Off side"??
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  9 14:11:37 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 16:11:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Mitten 1965
Message-ID: <SNT124-W56792F3435AEB1A074548CB7D70@phx.gbl>

I have an MG Mitten car cover for my TF from about that era - maybe 1968.
It's still like new.







Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 20:30:37 -0400
From: Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Mitten 1965
To: spridget <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4C0EE0AD.1020104 at comcast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

A local guy just handed me a 1965 MG Mitten catalog.
I want to go back in time and order 10 of everything then go sell it on
Ebay so I can retire!
Lucas fog lamps, $14.95
Sprite tops, $43, MGTD tops are on special for $34.95.
Sprite carpet set $14.95
Astro fiberglass hard tops that give the Sprite a fastback look $155
But shipping a hardtop from CA to the east coast was $10, $6 to Colorado.
Lucas mirrors for $6, Sports coil $9.95,
Amco mats, $12, specify color!!! Clear mats $14
Luggage racks from $22
How about a tonneau cover for $19.95?
Sprite reupholstery kits $49.95
And you guys don't want to know what the Amco bumper guards cost new.
It makes me want to cry. Let's just say the most expensive was for the
Jaguar E type at $24.95.
And i think I'll take a gross of every Amco shift knob for $3.25 each.
This book is packed with goodies that you only dream about today.
It even has a color car cover swatch on one of the pages.
--
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Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  9 16:58:52 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 18:58:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
In-Reply-To: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net>
References: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w4243693FD86AC2B8C5FA63C2D70@phx.gbl>

So Frank,
Inquiring minds NEED to know,
Whadja get?????

 one of them new F150 Raptors with the 400+ hp 6.2s??


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:07:26 -0400
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
>
> I am selling my 2001 Ford F-150 pick up.
> My new truck is coming in next week.
> 2 wheel drive, 5 speed, V6, AC, everything works, well maintained.
> It could use 2 tires, not real bad but not great either.
> Comes with System One aluminum ladder racks.
> It will tow a Sprite on a trailer anywhere, believe me I know ;)
> 114,000 miles, no major dents but is does have typical work truck dings
> and scratches, it still looks good with chrome bumpers and wheels.
> Looking to get $3900 for it, a little less without the racks.
>
> See it here
> http://tinyurl.com/2ed3y3w
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun  9 17:33:40 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:33:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w4243693FD86AC2B8C5FA63C2D70@phx.gbl>
References: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w4243693FD86AC2B8C5FA63C2D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C1024D4.6090300@comcast.net>

On 6/9/2010 6:58 PM, brian S wrote:
> So Frank,
> Inquiring minds NEED to know,
> Whadja get?????
>
>   one of them new F150 Raptors with the 400+ hp 6.2s??

Just a 2010 F-150 with manual windows but it has an automatic tranny.
NOBODY makes a full size pick up truck with a stick anymore.
I checked them all.
Ford, Cheby, Dodge, and even Toyota.
the frame on the Tundra scared the crap out of me when I saw the sample.
And Tiff's boyfriend told me Toyota is replacing frame on 07 Tundras 
already. But no stick in that either, not that I would have turned 
japanese,  saw a few jap trucks on the job, they all look like they 
rolled down a mountain with dents on them just from leaning over the edge.
I had to order the basic 2 door 8' bed pick up, a standard truck these 
days has 4 doors and 1/2 a bed.
Used to be a standard bed and a short bed, now it's a standard bed and a 
"long" bed, 8' is the long bed. 2 doors is hard to come by and a truck 
with no ass warmers, no chrome trimmed cup holders, no leather, and no 
carpet (your basic truck) is extremely hard to come by.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun  9 18:05:15 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:05:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
In-Reply-To: <4C1024D4.6090300@comcast.net>
References: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net><BAY145-w4243693FD86AC2B8C5FA63C2D70@phx.gbl>
	<4C1024D4.6090300@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <684C1CFD3D1E467AADB4FA792CD7F82A@spider>

How much does a replacement ignition key cost?  ...bill in oregon

=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:34 PM
To: brian S
Cc: spridgets list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale

On 6/9/2010 6:58 PM, brian S wrote:
> So Frank,
> Inquiring minds NEED to know,
> Whadja get?????
>
>   one of them new F150 Raptors with the 400+ hp 6.2s??

Just a 2010 F-150 with manual windows but it has an automatic tranny.
NOBODY makes a full size pick up truck with a stick anymore.
I checked them all.
Ford, Cheby, Dodge, and even Toyota.
the frame on the Tundra scared the crap out of me when I saw the sample.
And Tiff's boyfriend told me Toyota is replacing frame on 07 Tundras 
already. But no stick in that either, not that I would have turned 
japanese,  saw a few jap trucks on the job, they all look like they 
rolled down a mountain with dents on them just from leaning over the edge.
I had to order the basic 2 door 8' bed pick up, a standard truck these 
days has 4 doors and 1/2 a bed.
Used to be a standard bed and a short bed, now it's a standard bed and a 
"long" bed, 8' is the long bed. 2 doors is hard to come by and a truck 
with no ass warmers, no chrome trimmed cup holders, no leather, and no 
carpet (your basic truck) is extremely hard to come by.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites
_______________________________________________

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  9 18:30:59 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 17:30:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
In-Reply-To: <4C1024D4.6090300@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <294680.24122.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 6/9/10, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> is hard to come by and a truck with no ass warmers, no
> chrome trimmed cup holders, no leather, and no carpet (your
> basic truck) is extremely hard to come by.

I have one, but it has the Triton 4.6L V-8, so it has no balls either.

Ron

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun  9 18:52:06 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 19:52:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w4243693FD86AC2B8C5FA63C2D70@phx.gbl>
References: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w4243693FD86AC2B8C5FA63C2D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C103736.7030200@justbrits.com>

<<  ...one of them new F150 Raptors... >>

Nah Brian, F750 with custom body - Speedwell Blue paint w/Silver
Racing Stripes and Factory Installed Lucas Smoke Detector !!!

But ONLY The Lady Di may drive it !!!!

Wisconsin Walter

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  9 20:31:26 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:31:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
In-Reply-To: <4C1024D4.6090300@comcast.net>
References: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w4243693FD86AC2B8C5FA63C2D70@phx.gbl>,
	<4C1024D4.6090300@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w35E6AA07B5606117C64F8EC2D80@phx.gbl>

I remember talking to you about it. Only way to get a stick was to
go up to a 3/4 ton. That sucks.
And definitely tough to find a stripper truck, not enough profit margin!

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 19:33:40 -0400
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
>
> On 6/9/2010 6:58 PM, brian S wrote:
> > So Frank,
> > Inquiring minds NEED to know,
> > Whadja get?????
> >
> >   one of them new F150 Raptors with the 400+ hp 6.2s??
>
> Just a 2010 F-150 with manual windows but it has an automatic tranny.
> NOBODY makes a full size pick up truck with a stick anymore.
> I checked them all.
> Ford, Cheby, Dodge, and even Toyota.
> the frame on the Tundra scared the crap out of me when I saw the sample.
> And Tiff's boyfriend told me Toyota is replacing frame on 07 Tundras
> already. But no stick in that either, not that I would have turned
> japanese,  saw a few jap trucks on the job, they all look like they
> rolled down a mountain with dents on them just from leaning over the edge.
> I had to order the basic 2 door 8' bed pick up, a standard truck these
> days has 4 doors and 1/2 a bed.
> Used to be a standard bed and a short bed, now it's a standard bed and a
> "long" bed, 8' is the long bed. 2 doors is hard to come by and a truck
> with no ass warmers, no chrome trimmed cup holders, no leather, and no
> carpet (your basic truck) is extremely hard to come by.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites

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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Jun 10 00:07:22 2010
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:07:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pick up truck 4 sale
In-Reply-To: <4C1024D4.6090300@comcast.net>
References: <4C0F056E.7070609@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w4243693FD86AC2B8C5FA63C2D70@phx.gbl>
	<4C1024D4.6090300@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikrJ1iHdmQfgk4pSHsx7mNPKOE-8xXlMzeiZ4uC@mail.gmail.com>

Were you really able to get a truck that has full rubber mats and no
carpet?  I wish my F150 had full rubber mats.

-g

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> On 6/9/2010 6:58 PM, brian S wrote:
>
>> So Frank,
>> Inquiring minds NEED to know,
>> Whadja get?????
>>
>>  one of them new F150 Raptors with the 400+ hp 6.2s??
>>
>
> Just a 2010 F-150 with manual windows but it has an automatic tranny.
> NOBODY makes a full size pick up truck with a stick anymore.
> I checked them all.
> Ford, Cheby, Dodge, and even Toyota.
> the frame on the Tundra scared the crap out of me when I saw the sample.
> And Tiff's boyfriend told me Toyota is replacing frame on 07 Tundras
> already. But no stick in that either, not that I would have turned japanese,
>  saw a few jap trucks on the job, they all look like they rolled down a
> mountain with dents on them just from leaning over the edge.
> I had to order the basic 2 door 8' bed pick up, a standard truck these days
> has 4 doors and 1/2 a bed.
> Used to be a standard bed and a short bed, now it's a standard bed and a
> "long" bed, 8' is the long bed. 2 doors is hard to come by and a truck with
> no ass warmers, no chrome trimmed cup holders, no leather, and no carpet
> (your basic truck) is extremely hard to come by.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun 10 11:45:51 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:45:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Any Listers near Ft Lauderdale?
Message-ID: <817771.34808.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If anyone is in or around Ft Laurderdale, Florida and would be willing to look at a car for me, please contact me off-list.

Thanks,

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 11 08:40:51 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:40:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel dash parts car in Ct. $300
Message-ID: <SNT124-W43B792AA13FE45A3CCB31DB7D90@phx.gbl>

Looks to be worth the $300 even if it's just for the parts, but the floors
look okay (from the photographs, anyway).



NFI and all that.



http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1784508382.html

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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 10:27:31 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 10:27:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel dash parts car in Ct. $300
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W43B792AA13FE45A3CCB31DB7D90@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W43B792AA13FE45A3CCB31DB7D90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim4Qoy_gk1WIdQvZO0epCw0vAhE9SxsfVyRiktb@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com> wrote:
Looks to be worth the $300 even if it's just for the parts, but the
floors look okay (from the photographs, anyway).

http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1784508382.html

That dude is dreaming if he thinks the scrapyard is gonna give him
$300 for a car that weighs less than a ton! His firm price should be
what they'll give him...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun 11 12:35:02 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:35:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel dash parts car in Ct. $300
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W43B792AA13FE45A3CCB31DB7D90@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W43B792AA13FE45A3CCB31DB7D90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C1281D6.9010302@justbrits.com>

<< Looks to be worth the $300 even if it's just for the parts, but the 
floors
look okay (from the photographs, anyway).>>

Looks PERFECT for Frank !!!!  <VBEG>

Sure wish is was closer to me <G> !!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[includes a bunch of Spridget stuff ! ]

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun 11 12:55:41 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:55:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Images from the Telegraph
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP79B90429F8CF7AD286CB66DED90@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP79B90429F8CF7AD286CB66DED90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C1286AD.600@justbrits.com>

Better yet, Glen <G>:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatpicturegalleries/7817843/Classic-British-cars.html?image=14

Or more politely for fellow Listers:

*http://tinyurl.com/2ez7rdj

*Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[including MGA & MGB & Spridget 'stuff' F-S]

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 11 13:15:45 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:15:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel dash parts car in Ct. $300
Message-ID: <SNT124-W53E33BDB396B8880517D0FB7D90@phx.gbl>

<<<That dude is dreaming if he thinks the scrapyard is gonna give him
$300 for a car that weighs less than a ton! His firm price should be
what they'll give him...>>>



Too true.  Last time a buddy and I scrapped a Midget we got about $25 for the
shell.  A little reasoning would get the price down, no doubt.




From: CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Steel dash parts car in Ct. $300
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID:
<AANLkTim4Qoy_gk1WIdQvZO0epCw0vAhE9SxsfVyRiktb at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:40 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com> wrote:
Looks to be worth the $300 even if it's just for the parts, but the
floors look okay (from the photographs, anyway).

http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1784508382.html

That dude is dreaming if he thinks the scrapyard is gonna give him
$300 for a car that weighs less than a ton! His firm price should be
what they'll give him...

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self


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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 11 14:08:46 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:08:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Images from the Telegraph
In-Reply-To: <4C1286AD.600@justbrits.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP79B90429F8CF7AD286CB66DED90@phx.gbl>,
	<4C1286AD.600@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <SNT124-W58BC3894EE943A749ECEE2B7D90@phx.gbl>

As a big OFAH fan, I LOVE the Reliant Robin.



Used Reliants are inexpensive enough and old enough to import into the U.S.
I've had an idea for just such a business - scouring the UK & Ireland for
"cheap" and quirky classics, and importing them to the U.S.  It will have to
stay just an idea, unfortunately, as I have no capital to back it up with.


-Mike Eldred

Wilmington, VT

'54 MG TF

'73 Midget


> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:55:41 -0500
> From: shop at justbrits.com
> To: mgs at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Images from the Telegraph
>
> Better yet, Glen <G>:
>
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatpicturegalleries/7817843/Classic-Britis
h-cars.html?image=14
>
> Or more politely for fellow Listers:
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/2ez7rdj
>
> *Ed
> Please visit MY site at:
> www.justbrits.com
> [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
> For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
> [including MGA & MGB & Spridget 'stuff' F-S]
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun 11 14:15:59 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:15:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Steel dash parts car in Ct. $300
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W53E33BDB396B8880517D0FB7D90@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W53E33BDB396B8880517D0FB7D90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C12997F.9080509@comcast.net>

On 6/11/2010 3:15 PM, Mike Eldred wrote:
> <<<That dude is dreaming if he thinks the scrapyard is gonna give him
> $300 for a car that weighs less than a ton! His firm price should be
> what they'll give him...>>>
>
>
>
> Too true.  Last time a buddy and I scrapped a Midget we got about $25 for the
> shell.  A little reasoning would get the price down, no doubt.

I got $77 bucks for a Sprite with nothing on it.
No fenders, no suspension, no drive train, no interior.
Just the shell and a couple of brake drums and some rusty wheels.
But I took it to a scrap metal yard, not a junk yard.
I was hoping for $25 but when they handed me 77, I was even happier.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 11 14:40:25 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:40:25 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] Images from the Telegraph
Message-ID: <4d97c.5465af50.3943f939@aol.com>

And last week the same newspaper publicised the biggest race meeting of the 
 year in the UK - the MG Car Club meeting at Silverstone.  The photo  
accompanying it was of a Big Healey.
 
In a message dated 11/06/2010 20:52:01 GMT Daylight Time,  
shop at justbrits.com writes:

Better  yet, Glen  <G>:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/expatpicturegalleries/7817843/Classic-Briti
sh-cars.html?image=14

Or  more politely for fellow  Listers:

*http://tinyurl.com/2ez7rdj

*Ed

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 11 15:47:19 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 17:47:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Identification
Message-ID: <BAY145-w4214554CD7E69C39741064C2D90@phx.gbl>

Trying to identify my head. ( not the one on my shoulders)
Prior to my starter issue, I was having a rough running problem.
Doing a compression test I got 60 psi in 1 and 2, 240 in 3 and 260 in 4.
Pulled the head to confirm diagnosis of a blown head gasket, between 1 and 2.

Head has mild porting and ran very well for a lil ol' 1098.
Faster than many thought it should.
Here's the big surprise, it only has 1.16 intake valves and .98 exhausts!
Did find 12g206 cast into it.
What might this head/engine have come from?


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!


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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 11 19:33:48 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:33:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Alfa for sale cheap
Message-ID: <939592.2213.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My 1978 Alfa Spider is for sale. Less than 10,000 miles on rebuilt 2L engine/5 spd gearbox. Silver/red. Almost none of the typical Alfa issues. It's more like an LBC with electrical quirks I will detail if there is any genuine interest (like the latest weirdness where the left directional will shut off if the brake pedal is depressed). It does have rust spots over each wheel well from 30 year old bondo, but zero anywhere else, including the spare tire well that is usually a problem. A steal at $3800 or offer (don't be bashful).

You should be able to access some pics via 

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/album.php?id=1341954812&aid=2063286

I'll be adding more. Also a hastily taken video (by my son) is here:

http://www.facebook.com/video/?id=1341954812#!/video/video.php?v=1479188023306

Ron

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 11 20:32:43 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:32:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Identification
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w4214554CD7E69C39741064C2D90@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-w4214554CD7E69C39741064C2D90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <29A3A829107D40A9A968D56F3A26A4EF@blackbox2>

That's an early MG 1098 head
1-5/32" intake  1" exhaust
28.3 cc head volume.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- Subject:
[Spridgets] Head Identification

Trying to identify my head. ( not the one on my shoulders)
Prior to my starter issue, I was having a rough running problem.
Doing a compression test I got 60 psi in 1 and 2, 240 in 3 and 260 in 4.
Pulled the head to confirm diagnosis of a blown head gasket, between 1 and
2.

Head has mild porting and ran very well for a lil ol' 1098.
Faster than many thought it should.
Here's the big surprise, it only has 1.16 intake valves and .98 exhausts!
Did find 12g206 cast into it.
What might this head/engine have come from?

From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 06:49:53 2010
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 08:49:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket
Message-ID: <05077C41-C68E-4322-9047-4F9EA7EC87C2@comcast.net>

Hi All,

When replacing my valve cover gasket should I use any type of adhesive or
sealant with it?

Thank you

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 07:35:28 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 07:35:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket
In-Reply-To: <05077C41-C68E-4322-9047-4F9EA7EC87C2@comcast.net>
References: <05077C41-C68E-4322-9047-4F9EA7EC87C2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiloW0k6oBNuC-Jn7MHOpkP8vQ1uthl09660aUzj@mail.gmail.com>

I like to use 3M weatherstrip adhesive on the valve cover side and
Hylomar on the head side.  That way you can take it off and replace it
without buying a new gasket.  You may have to add a little more
Hylomar when replacing, but that is better than buying new gaskets.

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sat Jun 12 07:48:38 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:48:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket
In-Reply-To: <05077C41-C68E-4322-9047-4F9EA7EC87C2@comcast.net>
References: <05077C41-C68E-4322-9047-4F9EA7EC87C2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1916553944.20100612064838@pacifier.com>

Hello Kristi,

     all I do is give a thin wipe of motor oil.

     YMMV

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Aibohphobia - The fear of palindromes 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 12 08:44:21 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 10:44:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket
In-Reply-To: <05077C41-C68E-4322-9047-4F9EA7EC87C2@comcast.net>
References: <05077C41-C68E-4322-9047-4F9EA7EC87C2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C139D45.4050007@comcast.net>

On 6/12/2010 8:49 AM, Kristi & Lambert wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> When replacing my valve cover gasket should I use any type of adhesive or
> sealant with it?

I glue mine to the valve cover with silicone.
Nothing on the head side, this way it comes off so I can adjust the 
valves without replacing the gasket.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Jun 12 13:13:46 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 15:13:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket
In-Reply-To: <1916553944.20100612064838@pacifier.com>
References: <05077C41-C68E-4322-9047-4F9EA7EC87C2@comcast.net> 
	<1916553944.20100612064838@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <1682113387864540484@unknownmsgid>

And I am in between Bill and Frank; I glue the gasket to the cover and
oil the bottom of the gasket where it meets the head.
David L

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Jun 12 14:12:00 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:12:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket
In-Reply-To: <1682113387864540484@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <C8393820.27E39%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I glue it to the cover with some kind of Permatex product or Gasgacinch, and
then if it's a cork gasket I smear a little grease on the bottom. If it's a
rubber gasket, I smear a little oil on the bottom.
The exact products I use depends on what leaked all over the cabinet, or
which lid would have to be cut off to get it open.
BZ

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sat Jun 12 15:06:41 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:06:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket
In-Reply-To: <1682113387864540484@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <20100612210641.XQN3F.81678.root@cdptpa-web12-z01>

We used to do that with our race car (V8 Chevrolet) because we spent a lot of time adjusting valves, replacing pushrods, the occasional cam change, etc.  With a cork gasket the valve cover could be removed and reinstalled easily.


> And I am in between Bill and Frank; I glue the gasket to the cover and
> oil the bottom of the gasket where it meets the head.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 12 18:30:19 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:30:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket
In-Reply-To: <4C139D45.4050007@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <319051.99343.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What Frank said. 

--- On Sat, 6/12/10, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I glue mine to the valve cover with silicone.
> Nothing on the head side, this way it comes off so I can
> adjust the valves without replacing the gasket.
> 
> -- Frank Clarici

From dwramsey at att.net  Sat Jun 12 20:33:57 2010
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:33:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket
In-Reply-To: <05077C41-C68E-4322-9047-4F9EA7EC87C2@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20100613023303.9023A187658@autox.team.net>

Guess I'm the only one that glues the gasket to the head and not the valve
cover. Kind of makes a dam around the head so the rockers don't leak all
over when I run it with the cover removed, and makes it easy to see if it is
good.
		Crash


Hi All,

When replacing my valve cover gasket should I use any type of adhesive or
sealant with it?

Thank you

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 13 08:33:29 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 10:33:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Identification
In-Reply-To: <ADE390AA5A19404E9BEC1DC4636ECB20@Home>
References: <BAY145-w4214554CD7E69C39741064C2D90@phx.gbl>,
	<29A3A829107D40A9A968D56F3A26A4EF@blackbox2>,
	<ADE390AA5A19404E9BEC1DC4636ECB20@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w344FD710F72EFC104BA525C2DB0@phx.gbl>

Good call Michael,

I measured it and found it's 2.65 thick, compared to another 1098
head I have that's 2.75.
A pretty good difference.
It still has pretty good size chambers, I'm gonna try and measure them later.
Really makes me want to put larger valves in it and see how much power is in
it,
 there's sooo much room! :-0
Or if I didn't have to notch the block, I'd drop a 1275 head on it.
Maybe at rebuild time.....

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 23:58:52 -0400
> From: mdrowe at optonline.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Head Identification
> To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com
>
> > Doing a compression test I got 60 psi in 1 and 2, 240 in 3 and 260 in 4.
>
> Is that normal compression?  Mine (1275) were around 175 and it runs just
> fine.  Maybe your head was significantly skimmed.
>
> Michael Rowe
>
>

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From cbaustin at verizon.net  Sun Jun 13 10:44:07 2010
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 12:44:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] For Sale
Message-ID: <F814546C3A5940459D0A3FF3C872E201@universal1>

    Red, chrome bumper, looks like new top, body looks solid, interior nice,
on a used car lot here just outside Pittsburgh.

    Could use a little clean-up on chrome bits, don't know what the drive line
looks like.

    If anyone is interested I can stop by and get a price and take a closer
look.

    There are holes (drilled) in the rockers - trim strip??

    Let me know,

                                                                        CB

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Jun 13 12:16:14 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 11:16:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
Message-ID: <AANLkTin1jml60TztMQpBrO2ydIfsbXK2Dn0ZbCZZ3sCv@mail.gmail.com>

Next time you think how complicated the 1275 is, check out this scale
British engine.


http://www.enginehistory.org/merlin_xx.htm

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From grday at btinternet.com  Sun Jun 13 15:13:04 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:13:04 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
References: <AANLkTin1jml60TztMQpBrO2ydIfsbXK2Dn0ZbCZZ3sCv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <078C2699434346AEAE3F08EF66BEF0E5@user8634b3d69b>

My father-in-law worked on the full scale ones during WWII.  A couple of 
months ago for his 92nd birthday we went round the RAF aircraft museum at 
Cosford where they have half a dozen or so or these things in various states 
of assembly.  After a little prompting about difficulties with this engine 
he started reminiscing and pointing out the service problems and design 
hiccups.  It ended up with him giving a 'masterclass lecture' to the 
curators and others who gathered round.  A really great chap, proud of him.



Guy R Day




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:16 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine


> Next time you think how complicated the 1275 is, check out this scale
> British engine.
>
>
> http://www.enginehistory.org/merlin_xx.htm
>
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Jun 13 15:26:02 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 14:26:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <078C2699434346AEAE3F08EF66BEF0E5@user8634b3d69b>
References: <AANLkTin1jml60TztMQpBrO2ydIfsbXK2Dn0ZbCZZ3sCv@mail.gmail.com>
	<078C2699434346AEAE3F08EF66BEF0E5@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilWRNyAgb43uJjvU7szzuLPhvhIlWy4SGggOtMO@mail.gmail.com>

Guy,
     You are so lucky to him still around.  We are losing many of his
generation every day now.  My dad is gone, but he was a toolmaker for Texas
Instruments for over 30 years working in exotic metals.  He was the go to
guy for his trade within the company.  They looked to him for training the
newer employees.  He hand tooled metal parts for the Apollo moon rockets.
Very soft spoken intelligent man that served in the Navy during WWII.  I
really miss him.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> My father-in-law worked on the full scale ones during WWII.  A couple of
> months ago for his 92nd birthday we went round the RAF aircraft museum at
> Cosford where they have half a dozen or so or these things in various states
> of assembly.  After a little prompting about difficulties with this engine
> he started reminiscing and pointing out the service problems and design
> hiccups.  It ended up with him giving a 'masterclass lecture' to the
> curators and others who gathered round.  A really great chap, proud of him.
>
>
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <
> rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
> To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:16 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
>
>
>  Next time you think how complicated the 1275 is, check out this scale
>> British engine.
>>
>>
>> http://www.enginehistory.org/merlin_xx.htm
>>
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 13 17:54:44 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:54:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin1jml60TztMQpBrO2ydIfsbXK2Dn0ZbCZZ3sCv@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin1jml60TztMQpBrO2ydIfsbXK2Dn0ZbCZZ3sCv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikzHk6hN8WO0wjj2eDLPTZSmiLAP_VE7obnIYn0@mail.gmail.com>

There is always this, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeUMDY01uUA

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jun 14 08:09:35 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:09:35 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Head Identification
Message-ID: <20100614.080935.13812.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

Brian-
I have a 12g290 head, and was recently discussing how much to mill of to run
my flattop 948 +20 pistons with David Anton of APT. His recommendation was to
mill ~ 0.080" off the original head (making the thickness 2.67" minimum) to
get ~ 10+:1 ratio. It looks like that's what has been done. Of course, your
compression ratio is higher being a 1098 to start with.
YMMV (or YCRMV).


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jun 14 08:30:30 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:30:30 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] A little brake help?
Message-ID: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>

OK guys,
I rebuilt the tandem master in the BE this winter. Found out that it has the
3/4" master (great, perfect for the discs). I referenced Gerard's treatise on
the 3/4" vs 7/8" masters, and was a bit confused when I found that I had the
same length pushrods as the drum brake (7/8") master that originally came out
of the BE. All of the holes were worn on the clevises, as were the pins, so I
matched the length of the pushrods I removed from the master, with those that
were laying about and in good shape, cleaned up the pedals and pedal box from
the BE (with pedal stop bolts!). Bench bleeding went well, installed the
master, bled it out yesterday and took it for a spin.
When the brakes warmed up, they started to bind. So much so that the car
wouldn't move. Got a ride home, brought the van, my eldest AND TOOLS
(DUH!)Backed off the pushrod as much as possible (so its as short as it can
be), as well as the stop bolt, no luck. Opened the bleeder on the front
caliper to relieve the pressure and all was good, towed home with no
problems.
Here's the question- How do I make sure that this doesn't happen without
taking the car out of the garage? Is there a way to tell if the pushrod is
adjusted too long, or is this trial and error? Should I turn 1/2" off of the
pushrod length to match what Gerard shows about the length? The brakes feel
great now, just like the Spit when I was racing. Is the stop bolt position a
major factor, or just an end limit/ pedal positioner?
I understand that this is due to the piston not coming fully out to expose the
relief hole in the master and allow the pressure in the front brakes to bleed
back down. Will this be evident in the garage if you pump the pedal and rock
the car?
Inquiring minds and annoyed spouses want to know....


Mark Haynes
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HAN5L8016

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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 09:32:32 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:32:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] A little brake help?
In-Reply-To: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbcmR2EBHgxOY2azKb3uhX2p1LAlYHDU16a-Ht@mail.gmail.com>

Hose condition?
Brake hoses can wear and become like check valves, i.e. they allow the
brakes to grab and then hold them.


On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:
> OK guys,
> I rebuilt the tandem master in the BE this winter. Found out that it has
the
> 3/4" master (great, perfect for the discs). I referenced Gerard's treatise
on
> the 3/4" vs 7/8" masters, and was a bit confused when I found that I had
the
> same length pushrods as the drum brake (7/8") master that originally came
out
> of the BE. All of the holes were worn on the clevises, as were the pins, so
I
> matched the length of the pushrods I removed from the master, with those
that
> were laying about and in good shape, cleaned up the pedals and pedal box
from
> the BE (with pedal stop bolts!). Bench bleeding went well, installed the
> master, bled it out yesterday and took it for a spin.
> When the brakes warmed up, they started to bind. So much so that the car
> wouldn't move. Got a ride home, brought the van, my eldest AND TOOLS
> (DUH!)Backed off the pushrod as much as possible (so its as short as it can
> be), as well as the stop bolt, no luck. Opened the bleeder on the front
> caliper to relieve the pressure and all was good, towed home with no
> problems.
> Here's the question- How do I make sure that this doesn't happen without
> taking the car out of the garage? Is there a way to tell if the pushrod is
> adjusted too long, or is this trial and error? Should I turn 1/2" off of
the
> pushrod length to match what Gerard shows about the length? The brakes feel
> great now, just like the Spit when I was racing. Is the stop bolt position
a
> major factor, or just an end limit/ pedal positioner?
> I understand that this is due to the piston not coming fully out to expose
the
> relief hole in the master and allow the pressure in the front brakes to
bleed
> back down. Will this be evident in the garage if you pump the pedal and
rock
> the car?
> Inquiring minds and annoyed spouses want to know....
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016
>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 09:36:02 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:36:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] A little brake help?
In-Reply-To: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim832rW2l9Hg5fyE9vVjXRWmdSb_8oWz-m3RXN0@mail.gmail.com>

If your hoses are suspect then replace them.
If not a test would be to bind it up again and crack the line at the
MC.  If there is pressure there then the MC is suspect.  If no
pressure at the MC but pressure at the caliper, then the hose is the
likely cause,
You could just ride around the block many times and stay close to home
or if you don't have access to a block then tow car to a large parking
lot or other suitable area.
My $s on the hose(s).

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 14 11:10:41 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:10:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] A little brake help?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim832rW2l9Hg5fyE9vVjXRWmdSb_8oWz-m3RXN0@mail.gmail.c om>
References: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
	<AANLkTim832rW2l9Hg5fyE9vVjXRWmdSb_8oWz-m3RXN0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201006141010847.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Either crack the line at MC or undo the brake switch a bit at the 
union to relieve.  Easier to reach and less messy.
         Peter C
=
At 10:36 AM 6/14/2010, derf wrote:
>If your hoses are suspect then replace them.
>If not a test would be to bind it up again and crack the line at the
>MC.  If there is pressure there then the MC is suspect.  If no
>pressure at the MC but pressure at the caliper, then the hose is the
>likely cause,
>You could just ride around the block many times and stay close to home
>or if you don't have access to a block then tow car to a large parking
>lot or other suitable area.
>My $s on the hose(s).

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Mon Jun 14 11:26:47 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:26:47 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] A little Brake help?
Message-ID: <20100614.112647.20314.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

I forgot to say that the hoses are braided stainless with teflon liners, new
last year (sorry Derf, not the hoses).


Mark Haynes
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HAN5L8016

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From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 14 13:30:20 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:30:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
Message-ID: <201006141230467.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Damn... can't work on the cars, if'n the grass don't get cut.

Need an electric PTO coil or setup for Cub Cadet 1650 quiet series 
Kohler. All 1250-1650 fit. Mid 70's era.

Or knowledge on how to wire and insulate the electric magnet coil.

Peter C

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 14 14:29:47 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:29:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] The tale of the crunchy clutch
Message-ID: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>

Thanks to all who weighed in on my question regarding whether to pull the
engine & gearbox or engine only for the clutch replacement in my '73 Midget.
With your advice, I decided to pull the engine and gearbox together.  It went
very well, with no major hiccups.



When I pulled the engine and transmission apart, the reason for all the
squealing and barking coming from the the clutch was immediately apparent.
The bearing itself was nowhere to be seen - the metal bearing holder that sits
in the clutch fork was present, although it was in two pieces and had been
ground almost flat.  The metal bearing surface in the center of the pressure
plate had broken and was serving as the bearing.  Amazingly, it was like that
when I drove it into the garage last fall, shortly after buying it.



Given the DPO's penchant for cobbling his repairs together with carpentry
fasteners, sledgehammers, and duct tape, the state of the clutch does not
surprise me.  And I knew it had to be replaced, along with the interior, when
I bought the car as a project.  Sadly, it appears the clutch is practically
new - there is little, if any, wear on the clutch disc.  Besides the DPO's
unconventional repair strategy, is there any other known cause for that kind
of clutch destruction?  I remember someone saying something about slave
cylinder pushrods that are too long - could that be responsible?  And since I
will be replacing the slave cylinder, what IS the correct length for the
pushrod?



Aside from using actual car parts and following recommended practices and
procedures, is there anything in particular that I might do to prevent the
destruction of the new bearing and pressure plate?  (Of course, I will also be
using a new clutch disc, too.)



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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun 14 16:04:07 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:04:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] A little brake help?
In-Reply-To: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4C16A757.2050909@comcast.net>

If you have the 7/8 bore pushrods in a 3/4 master, they are too long.
I do not know the length of 3/4 rods vs 7/8 rods but they are at least 
1/2" longer.
We had this exact problem on the Holy Sprite, a piece of foil from the 
brake fluid jar ended up in the master and caused the brakes to lock up 
every couple of days. It lodged itself over the return hole sometimes.
Talk about making me crazy!
Check the book but I think the pedal stops need to have 5/16" clearance.
You can test the brakes for lock up by pumping them a few times and 
trying to roll the car. If they lock and you can relieve the pressure 
with a crack of a bleed screw, adjust the push rod. Make it shorter.



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 16:24:02 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:24:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik7Umt8jEZTz8HDP-jCyKmx4Q-ulGBLlMFB3GhF@mail.gmail.com>

DO NOT hold the clutch pedal down at stop signs/lights. If you found black
hair like fibers inside the bell housing, that would explain the early
failing of your carbon clutch bushing.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks to all who weighed in on my question regarding whether to pull the
> engine & gearbox or engine only for the clutch replacement in my '73
> Midget.
> With your advice, I decided to pull the engine and gearbox together.  It
> went
> very well, with no major hiccups.
>
>
>
> When I pulled the engine and transmission apart, the reason for all the
> squealing and barking coming from the the clutch was immediately apparent.
> The bearing itself was nowhere to be seen - the metal bearing holder that
> sits
> in the clutch fork was present, although it was in two pieces and had been
> ground almost flat.  The metal bearing surface in the center of the
> pressure
> plate had broken and was serving as the bearing.  Amazingly, it was like
> that
> when I drove it into the garage last fall, shortly after buying it.
>
>
>
> Given the DPO's penchant for cobbling his repairs together with carpentry
> fasteners, sledgehammers, and duct tape, the state of the clutch does not
> surprise me.  And I knew it had to be replaced, along with the interior,
> when
> I bought the car as a project.  Sadly, it appears the clutch is practically
> new - there is little, if any, wear on the clutch disc.  Besides the DPO's
> unconventional repair strategy, is there any other known cause for that
> kind
> of clutch destruction?  I remember someone saying something about slave
> cylinder pushrods that are too long - could that be responsible?  And since
> I
> will be replacing the slave cylinder, what IS the correct length for the
> pushrod?
>
>
>
> Aside from using actual car parts and following recommended practices and
> procedures, is there anything in particular that I might do to prevent the
> destruction of the new bearing and pressure plate?  (Of course, I will also
> be
> using a new clutch disc, too.)
>
>
>
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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 14 16:28:46 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:28:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik7Umt8jEZTz8HDP-jCyKmx4Q-ulGBLlMFB3GhF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTik7Umt8jEZTz8HDP-jCyKmx4Q-ulGBLlMFB3GhF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT124-W48956A404789E2425FD24FB7DC0@phx.gbl>

I'll take a closer look, but from my first inspection, there was no sign of
the bearing - no pieces, no dust... I would consider the possibility that the
ding-dong DPO never even put it in, except that the metal part of it was in
the clutch fork.



-Mike Eldred





Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:24:02 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The tale of the crunchy clutch
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
To: redscirocco at hotmail.com
CC: mgs at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net

DO NOT hold the clutch pedal down at stop signs/lights. If you found black
hair like fibers inside the bell housing, that would explain the early failing
of your carbon clutch bushing.


On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com> wrote:

Thanks to all who weighed in on my question regarding whether to pull the
engine & gearbox or engine only for the clutch replacement in my '73 Midget.
With your advice, I decided to pull the engine and gearbox together.  It went
very well, with no major hiccups.



When I pulled the engine and transmission apart, the reason for all the
squealing and barking coming from the the clutch was immediately apparent.
The bearing itself was nowhere to be seen - the metal bearing holder that
sits
in the clutch fork was present, although it was in two pieces and had been
ground almost flat.  The metal bearing surface in the center of the pressure
plate had broken and was serving as the bearing.  Amazingly, it was like that
when I drove it into the garage last fall, shortly after buying it.



Given the DPO's penchant for cobbling his repairs together with carpentry
fasteners, sledgehammers, and duct tape, the state of the clutch does not
surprise me.  And I knew it had to be replaced, along with the interior, when
I bought the car as a project.  Sadly, it appears the clutch is practically
new - there is little, if any, wear on the clutch disc.  Besides the DPO's
unconventional repair strategy, is there any other known cause for that kind
of clutch destruction?  I remember someone saying something about slave
cylinder pushrods that are too long - could that be responsible?  And since I
will be replacing the slave cylinder, what IS the correct length for the
pushrod?



Aside from using actual car parts and following recommended practices and
procedures, is there anything in particular that I might do to prevent the
destruction of the new bearing and pressure plate?  (Of course, I will also
be
using a new clutch disc, too.)



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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jun 14 17:27:05 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:27:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] A little brake help?
In-Reply-To: <4C16A757.2050909@comcast.net>
References: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
	<4C16A757.2050909@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C16BAC9.2020307@justbrits.com>

If I EVER, EVER, EVER saw an.........
 
<< Talk about making me crazy!  >>

oxymoron on this List [including ALL others he is on], Frank
just penned it !!!!

Damned near choked to death from LMAO at it !!!!!

Tnx Frank, you made my DECADE !!!!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[includes a bunch of Spridget 'stuff']

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 14 18:33:16 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:33:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin1jml60TztMQpBrO2ydIfsbXK2Dn0ZbCZZ3sCv@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTin1jml60TztMQpBrO2ydIfsbXK2Dn0ZbCZZ3sCv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F7089A78F0F34BD3B1192CA4F77E9282@blackbox2>

What would be really neat is to make a 1/3 scale Merlin and put it in the
Sprite.

Let's see, the original made around 1200 hp.  A third of that would be about
400hp. I could live with that.  Heck even 1/4 scale would be fine.

Also, I seem to remember a Road and Track issue from the 70's where they put

a real Merlin in a Jag XJ.
  

-----Original Message-----
From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:16 PM
To: Spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine

Next time you think how complicated the 1275 is, check out this scale
British engine.


http://www.enginehistory.org/merlin_xx.htm

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 14 19:11:14 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:11:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] A little brake help?
In-Reply-To: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100614.083030.21585.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <70A92DED96E84C8EAB626ECECA5F8A49@blackbox2>

1) Is the valve in the brake bore of the master cylinder proper?

2) Forget the rod length for a moment. What is really important is 
that there is adequate free play when the pedal is not depressed.
In other words the piston is free to go all the way back out when you let
off the pedal. Once you understand this it is clear that the rod length only
determines where the pedal is situated in space.  Right?

3) When I re-sleeved my master 2 winters ago and later test drove the car
my front brakes also locked up.  It turned out that the caliper pistons
got gummed up from age & sitting too long.  I pulled them apart and cleaned
them up.  What's the state of your calipers?

4) Now is a good time to re-bush the pedal levers if you have not already
done so.

5) Now is also a good time to make a little "dam" in the pedal box 
between the master and the holes where the pedals go through,
This, so that in the future if the cylinder ever leaks (or you spill the can
when topping off) the fluid will not run down the pedals a cause all sorts
of havoc with the pedal pads and floor covering.  I made mine out of a 1/4"
square piece of rubber cut to the width of the box and RTV'd it in place.
If you have ever had silicone brake fluid on your pedals you will appreciate
this tip.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:31 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] A little brake help?

OK guys,
I rebuilt the tandem master in the BE this winter. Found out that it has the
3/4" master (great, perfect for the discs). I referenced Gerard's treatise
on
the 3/4" vs 7/8" masters, and was a bit confused when I found that I had the
same length pushrods as the drum brake (7/8") master that originally came
out
of the BE. All of the holes were worn on the clevises, as were the pins, so
I
matched the length of the pushrods I removed from the master, with those
that
were laying about and in good shape, cleaned up the pedals and pedal box
from
the BE (with pedal stop bolts!). Bench bleeding went well, installed the
master, bled it out yesterday and took it for a spin.
When the brakes warmed up, they started to bind. So much so that the car
wouldn't move. Got a ride home, brought the van, my eldest AND TOOLS
(DUH!)Backed off the pushrod as much as possible (so its as short as it can
be), as well as the stop bolt, no luck. Opened the bleeder on the front
caliper to relieve the pressure and all was good, towed home with no
problems.
Here's the question- How do I make sure that this doesn't happen without
taking the car out of the garage? Is there a way to tell if the pushrod is
adjusted too long, or is this trial and error? Should I turn 1/2" off of the
pushrod length to match what Gerard shows about the length? The brakes feel
great now, just like the Spit when I was racing. Is the stop bolt position a
major factor, or just an end limit/ pedal positioner?
I understand that this is due to the piston not coming fully out to expose
the
relief hole in the master and allow the pressure in the front brakes to
bleed
back down. Will this be evident in the garage if you pump the pedal and rock
the car?
Inquiring minds and annoyed spouses want to know....

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun 14 20:02:56 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:02:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <F7089A78F0F34BD3B1192CA4F77E9282@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <C83C2D60.27F46%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  around 1200 hp
According to Jay Leno, it's only a little over 700hp without the blower.
I don't know if there'd be room for the blower in a Sprite.

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Jun 14 20:25:10 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:25:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <F7089A78F0F34BD3B1192CA4F77E9282@blackbox2>
References: <AANLkTin1jml60TztMQpBrO2ydIfsbXK2Dn0ZbCZZ3sCv@mail.gmail.com>
	<F7089A78F0F34BD3B1192CA4F77E9282@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4C16E486.70106@tx.rr.com>

How about a V8 Chevy?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/DSC_2565b.jpg


> What would be really neat is to make a 1/3 scale Merlin and put it in the
> Sprite.
>
> Let's see, the original made around 1200 hp.  A third of that would be about
> 400hp. I could live with that.  Heck even 1/4 scale would be fine.
>
> Also, I seem to remember a Road and Track issue from the 70's where they put
> a real Merlin in a Jag XJ.

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 14 21:11:15 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:11:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] British Invade Gettysburg
Message-ID: <A0F8E032-717B-4E76-88D6-DD22329036B2@gmail.com>

Hey,

Will there be a British Invade Gettysburg Show this year?

Details?

Kevin V.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun 14 22:31:07 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:31:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C16E486.70106@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C83C501B.27F51%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> How about a V8 Chevy?
If you don't mind the oversteer or looking like a dumb redneck.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun 14 22:32:01 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:32:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C16E486.70106@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C83C5051.27F52%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

OK, I though understeer and typed over. I don't know why. 

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Jun 14 22:43:10 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:43:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <C83C5051.27F52%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C83C5051.27F52%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4C1704DE.1060602@tx.rr.com>

With lots of horsepower, oversteer is just a touch of the throttle away.

> OK, I though understeer and typed over. I don't know why. 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 03:55:10 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:55:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Axle Hub Nut Question
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w4C332A357DC325DFD2593B8D70@phx.gbl>
References: <1dd401cb07aa$d648c880$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTimnMGQ59mPU9wzoxgty8o_1qS_g3mBQ7Nd97C7E@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY147-w4C332A357DC325DFD2593B8D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik7sNdhm_BLixndOL6ljNT3CHKEYLDo0hZwMlbs@mail.gmail.com>

Wow that BN1 Healey side curtian is cool looking ; )
Lin

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:13 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Port is okay.  I prefer tequila.
>
> Robert Duquette
>
> Ottawa ON Canada
>
> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
>
> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
>
> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )  ( OMG! It's LHD!
> )http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 03:07:30 -0600
> > From: derf247 at gmail.com
> >
> > I prefer Port and Starboard.
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 04:05:07 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:05:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Clutch Fluid problem
In-Reply-To: <864003.79957.qm@web23505.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <4c5301cb067a$1a089d20$116a010a@mail2world.com>
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Wow Paul, please keep us posted on what Castrol says about your fluid, I
remember in the 70's I used a non Castrol brake fluid in my rebuild master
cylinder and it ate the new rubber. This always frustrates me.

Also where did you get the "new" master cylinder from? I'll be replacing all
the parts on my next Spridget project and want to form a list of companies
to buy my parts from and I am convinced all Moss products will give me a
headache down the road.
Lin

On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:32 AM, Paul Baker <paulbaker53 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Castrol Response is a leading UK brake fluid which is Dot 4 rated.   To
> answer
> your question Ed, I replaced the m/c and slave at the same time and ran new
> fluid through the system to flush out any old fluid left in the pipe, then
> bled the system.
>
>
> I spoke to Castrol tech support yesterday and they said
> they have never heard of this product causing that problem, but have asked
> me
> to send a sample of the fluid in the m/c and a seal from the old m/c which
> I
> will be doing shortly.
>
> Since finding this problem I have identified two other
> Sprite owners facing the same problem.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> << He did asy DOT4 in his
> original post.... >>
>
> Well Chris, IMHO he only sorta did <VBEG> !!
>
> He DID say
> "Castrol Response Super Dot 4 fluid in" which I have
> never heard of much less
> know if it IS Dot 4 ?!?  However,
> I also had the 1st thought of a rubber
> "reaction" but like
> Paul asked:  "And why the clutch system but not the brake
> system?"
> IS the question of a least the week <G> !?!
>
> I would wonder if Paul
> actually had forced-air cleaned AND
> run either alcohol or some of the new
> fluid thru the line
> PRIOR to filling the system.  Ergo, leaving OLD, who knows
> what "fluid" in the line.
>
> Ed
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 04:11:25 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:11:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
Message-ID: <AANLkTim5iYC8Mjf16XslzpfZRFIwj3rRaWc9V76n6BZ1@mail.gmail.com>

List I am creating a list of companies to buy my Spridget parts from and
want to keep away from all Moss parts and very limited Victoria British as
well. Can I get some feed back on companies all of you suggest?

I would also like to add to the list of companies what part to avoid or add
a must to purchase.
I couldn't afford to buy all the parts John Mc Cue has on this little Racer
but I am sure some will be affordable.

Lin

http://www.britishracecar.com/JohnMcCue-MG-Midget.htm

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 04:15:43 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:15:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinuGOKEXnB5nuYOlAe4oFZY6kz6SNbJKdFRFiL9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C8315640.27B06%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<601361.85333.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTinuGOKEXnB5nuYOlAe4oFZY6kz6SNbJKdFRFiL9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinMKJTcSZZCwoUS4V2Op0YF8mYv41CcIPag60EO@mail.gmail.com>

That was very funny ; )
Lin

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Every good band needs a Singer, eh Billy?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > singer over the bar, guitarist at the bar, bassist no doubt under the
> > bar....
> >
> > --- On Sun, 6/6/10, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Singer 4A parts sources
> > To: "Mike Rambour" <lists at dinospider.com>, spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 3:42 PM
> >
> > The Coach House Concert Theatre in San Juan Capistrano, CA has a Singer
> > roadster over the bar. The engine and gearbox were last seen sitting
> behind
> > the building, next the crumbling double-decker bus. The owners name is
> > Gary.
> > I think somebody should make him an offer. He told me it was a 1935, but
> I
> > think it's early fifties.
> > BZ
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> --
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 04:27:59 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:27:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool wheel VTO? Just like the AMR Libre.
Message-ID: <AANLkTilcp-VnC1uleDpAfp0lod6yUF2fnfrN1LOHg1lC@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I don't know how I have this link on my computer but this VTO wheel looks
exactly like the Libre's, 13x5.5, 155.00 each not cheap. And they can be
used with 3/8" or 7/16" studs and lugs without any mods to the wheels. I am
tempted to sell those Libre's for this set as I have still not found lugnuts
to fit mine : (

http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/682803/First_peek_New_Retro_4#Post682803

www.acmespeedshop.com

Lin

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jun 15 05:03:16 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:03:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim5iYC8Mjf16XslzpfZRFIwj3rRaWc9V76n6BZ1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim5iYC8Mjf16XslzpfZRFIwj3rRaWc9V76n6BZ1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B95C1FBBE3624644BB285C7BCFB695A4@OwnerPC>

Hi, Lin.
Even though they don't "officially" offer or stock Spridget parts, I use the 
Roadster Factory, in Armaugh, PA.  Figure that most Spridget electrical 
components, as well as a lot of hydraulic system components are the same 
parts for the MGB and the Spridget.  You just have to determine which parts 
interchange between the two models and you're good to go.
Besides patronizing a Pennsylvania business, I really appreciate how TRF's 
staff takes care of their customers.  They're really good folks.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list


> List I am creating a list of companies to buy my Spridget parts from and
> want to keep away from all Moss parts and very limited Victoria British as
> well. Can I get some feed back on companies all of you suggest?
>
> I would also like to add to the list of companies what part to avoid or 
> add
> a must to purchase.
> I couldn't afford to buy all the parts John Mc Cue has on this little 
> Racer
> but I am sure some will be affordable.
>
> Lin

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Tue Jun 15 05:32:52 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:32:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] British Invade Gettysburg
In-Reply-To: <A0F8E032-717B-4E76-88D6-DD22329036B2@gmail.com>
References: <A0F8E032-717B-4E76-88D6-DD22329036B2@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201006151133.o5FBXPJW011822@mail.usimperio.com>

Can't give you any more details than this
http://www.britishinvadegettysburg.com/registration.html

Dave


At 11:11 PM 6/14/2010, you wrote:
>Hey,
>
>Will there be a British Invade Gettysburg Show this year?
>
>Details?
>
>Kevin V.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 15 06:10:56 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:10:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
In-Reply-To: <B95C1FBBE3624644BB285C7BCFB695A4@OwnerPC>
References: <AANLkTim5iYC8Mjf16XslzpfZRFIwj3rRaWc9V76n6BZ1@mail.gmail.com>
	<B95C1FBBE3624644BB285C7BCFB695A4@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <1250CA8B80E14CD9850AF92DC54C7D96@HomePC>

Don't forget we have list members who conscientiously source the best parts 
available.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:03 AM
To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>; "Spridget list" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list

Hi, Lin.
Even though they don't "officially" offer or stock Spridget parts, I use the
Roadster Factory, in Armaugh, PA.  Figure that most Spridget electrical
components, as well as a lot of hydraulic system components are the same
parts for the MGB and the Spridget.  You just have to determine which parts
interchange between the two models and you're good to go.
Besides patronizing a Pennsylvania business, I really appreciate how TRF's
staff takes care of their customers.  They're really good folks.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list


> List I am creating a list of companies to buy my Spridget parts from and
> want to keep away from all Moss parts and very limited Victoria British as
> well. Can I get some feed back on companies all of you suggest?
>
> I would also like to add to the list of companies what part to avoid or
> add
> a must to purchase.
> I couldn't afford to buy all the parts John Mc Cue has on this little
> Racer
> but I am sure some will be affordable.
>
> Lin
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From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Jun 15 06:41:43 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:41:43 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
References: <AANLkTin1jml60TztMQpBrO2ydIfsbXK2Dn0ZbCZZ3sCv@mail.gmail.com>
	<F7089A78F0F34BD3B1192CA4F77E9282@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <87BFE1DDA87A49F2882E1D254AF0DA33@user8634b3d69b>

Snip <I could live with that.>     Not with those service schedules you 
wouldn't!   LOL.

I've seen a couple of wagons fitted with Meteor engines but not Merlins.  In 
the black and white days the local Council had one that was used for snow 
plough and gritting duties over our local hills and that was a magical beast 
that kept the roads open.  When we had a take over of local Councils they 
didn't appreciate a 25 year old wagon as big as a house was needed to do the 
job.  The roads close every year now.

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
To: "'Spridget'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 1:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another British Engine


> What would be really neat is to make a 1/3 scale Merlin and put it in the
> Sprite.
>
> Let's see, the original made around 1200 hp.  A third of that would be 
> about
> 400hp. I could live with that.  Heck even 1/4 scale would be fine.
>
> Also, I seem to remember a Road and Track issue from the 70's where they 
> put
> a real Merlin in a Jag XJ.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:16 PM
> To: Spridget
> Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
>
> Next time you think how complicated the 1275 is, check out this scale
> British engine.
>
>
> http://www.enginehistory.org/merlin_xx.htm
> _______________________________________________

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jun 15 06:50:43 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 05:50:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool wheel VTO? Just like the AMR Libre.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilcp-VnC1uleDpAfp0lod6yUF2fnfrN1LOHg1lC@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTilcp-VnC1uleDpAfp0lod6yUF2fnfrN1LOHg1lC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1339897114.20100615055043@pacifier.com>

Hello Linda,

     I sent that link. That's how you came by it. And YES they have
     those Libre's in mind when they decided to start making them AND
     they'll be available in 14", 5 1/2" wide with a 4" backspace.
     Made to work with Sprites. I have a set of the 14s reserved. I'll
     be running 175/65 14s with the black centers. They should be the
     same width as the 175/60 13s I presently run, and only about a
     third of inch larger in diameter. I've checked places on tire
     availability including Tirerack, and find that the selection of
     13" tires is slowly dwindling. ONE high performance, NINE all
     season, and FOUR ice and snow. In the 14s we have choice of 34
     different tires, only SIX of which are winter. I talked to my
     tire guy and he said no auto maker has made 13" wheels standard
     since the mid 1980s, thus the dearth of selection. I've been
     waiting, hoping, looking, for a decent looking wheel at all and
     to have them make FOURTEENS is serendipity.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Money is the root of all wealth.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 07:27:34 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:27:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim5iYC8Mjf16XslzpfZRFIwj3rRaWc9V76n6BZ1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim5iYC8Mjf16XslzpfZRFIwj3rRaWc9V76n6BZ1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil9gsSC3a8pmk9BPZjk2vcImuSgigVw3YXoCyoj@mail.gmail.com>

Peter C @ World Wide
Ed?

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jun 15 07:27:55 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 09:27:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
In-Reply-To: <1250CA8B80E14CD9850AF92DC54C7D96@HomePC>
References: <AANLkTim5iYC8Mjf16XslzpfZRFIwj3rRaWc9V76n6BZ1@mail.gmail.com>
	<B95C1FBBE3624644BB285C7BCFB695A4@OwnerPC>
	<1250CA8B80E14CD9850AF92DC54C7D96@HomePC>
Message-ID: <E2EB65618A8046C9BA0921382DAB5160@OwnerPC>

Absolutely.  My suggestion was to use TRF in place of Moss or VB, when 
practical, and not to in place of our list member vendors.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>; "Linda Grunthaner" 
<grunthaner at gmail.com>; "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list


> Don't forget we have list members who conscientiously source the best 
> parts
> available.
>
> LAD
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:03 AM
> To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>; "Spridget list"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
>
> Hi, Lin.
> Even though they don't "officially" offer or stock Spridget parts, I use 
> the
> Roadster Factory, in Armaugh, PA.  Figure that most Spridget electrical
> components, as well as a lot of hydraulic system components are the same
> parts for the MGB and the Spridget.  You just have to determine which 
> parts
> interchange between the two models and you're good to go.
> Besides patronizing a Pennsylvania business, I really appreciate how TRF's
> staff takes care of their customers.  They're really good folks.
> Bud Osbourne
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:11 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
>
>
>> List I am creating a list of companies to buy my Spridget parts from and
>> want to keep away from all Moss parts and very limited Victoria British 
>> as
>> well. Can I get some feed back on companies all of you suggest?
>>
>> I would also like to add to the list of companies what part to avoid or
>> add
>> a must to purchase.
>> I couldn't afford to buy all the parts John Mc Cue has on this little
>> Racer
>> but I am sure some will be affordable.
>>
>> Lin
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From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Jun 15 08:03:11 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 07:03:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool wheel VTO? Just like the AMR Libre.
References: <AANLkTilcp-VnC1uleDpAfp0lod6yUF2fnfrN1LOHg1lC@mail.gmail.com>
	<1339897114.20100615055043@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <CADD8E2F35DD4A58B344EE5AF569EB24@MAIN>

I just faced this dilema with my 63 Falcon.  I found a nice straight stock 
set of 13" 5 lug wheels and had them sand blasted and powder coated.  I then 
went to buy tires.  The stock C78-13.  In radials, that's a 185/80/13. 
Firestone lists them, but has been on national backorder for 8 months, 
Hankook lists them, also on backorder.  Maxxis (?).  Then there were snow 
tires, and trailer tires.  That's it.  I found a set at Les Schwab (house 
brand made by Hankook).  Next time I need tires for it, my only choice will 
probably be the reproductions from Cooker Tire, pricey, and Bias Ply.
Dave Riker
PS,  So how about he makes a set of those wheels in 15"x5 for Midgets? 
They'd work on RWA and Bugeye's.......




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool wheel VTO? Just like the AMR Libre.
I've checked places on tire
>     availability including Tirerack, and find that the selection of
>     13" tires is slowly dwindling. ONE high performance, NINE all
>     season, and FOUR ice and snow. In the 14s we have choice of 34
>     different tires, only SIX of which are winter. I talked to my
>     tire guy and he said no auto maker has made 13" wheels standard
>     since the mid 1980s, thus the dearth of selection. 


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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 10:52:53 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:52:53 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
Message-ID: <433d3.3b4ec747.394909e5@aol.com>

There was more than one version?
 
In a message dated 15/06/2010 03:59:45 GMT Daylight Time,  
billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:

around  1200 hp
According to Jay Leno, it's only a little over 700hp without the  blower.
I don't know if there'd be room for the blower in a  Sprite

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jun 15 10:55:11 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:55:11 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Rednecks:  Another British Engine
Message-ID: <43762.532170a9.39490a6f@aol.com>

Are there other kinds of rednecks?
 
In a message dated 15/06/2010 06:49:03 GMT Daylight Time,  
billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:

a dumb  redneck

From cclabaw at juno.com  Tue Jun 15 11:36:33 2010
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:36:33 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
Message-ID: <20100615.103633.8701.3@webmail10.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

A few years ago, Jay Leno showed up at Santa Monica Airport for British Wings
and Wheels, with a RR Phantom III with a Merlin (from a Mosquito bomber, he
said) installed.  It drove a cross-shaft through a 3-speed trans.  The
cross-shaft ran sprockets for a chain final drive.  Jay said that he normally
only used third gear once the beast got rolling. Also, he claimed that the
body, a boat-tailed speedster, was from a RR-engined speedboat from the
'20's.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite.


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
To: "'Spridget'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:33:16 -0400

What would be really neat is to make a 1/3 scale Merlin and put it in the
Sprite.

Let's see, the original made around 1200 hp.  A third of that would be about
400hp. I could live with that.  Heck even 1/4 scale would be fine.

Also, I seem to remember a Road and Track issue from the 70's where they put

a real Merlin in a Jag XJ.


-----Original Message-----
From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:16 PM
To: Spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine

Next time you think how complicated the 1275 is, check out this scale
British engine.


http://www.enginehistory.org/merlin_xx.htm
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 15 11:40:57 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:40:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <433d3.3b4ec747.394909e5@aol.com>
References: <433d3.3b4ec747.394909e5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6FF96CE0-7100-4D07-9536-149FEDD9B367@comcast.net>

Well, if she's flexible the passenger seat is a possibility...

;-)

Lester


On Jun 15, 2010, at 11:52 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> There was more than one version?
>
> In a message dated 15/06/2010 03:59:45 GMT Daylight Time,
> billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:
>
> around  1200 hp
> According to Jay Leno, it's only a little over 700hp without the   
> blower.
> I don't know if there'd be room for the blower in a  Sprite
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun 15 11:58:12 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:58:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C1704DE.1060602@tx.rr.com>
Message-ID: <C83D0D44.27FAE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> With lots of horsepower, oversteer is just a touch of the throttle away.
That's true, but I've driven a Ford powered Midget, and it was interesting,
but it wasn't a sports car anymore.
BZ

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Jun 15 14:04:24 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:04:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool wheel VTO? Just like the AMR Libre.
Message-ID: <4b0801cb0cc5$f3d14560$056a010a@mail2world.com>

That's the same problem I have with the Cosworth Vega. Nobody stocks a
195/70/13 (the metric eqivalent of the OE BR70-13). The car has
205/60/13's on it, but I'm not sure how long those will be made either.
Coker is not an option, as the Cosworth Vega club has approached them to
make a run, but they won't tool up unless they have sufficient demand.
 
When I next need tires, I'll probably try to get a set of 15x6 Minilites
(painted gold) to approximate the look of the stock Cosworth wheels.
 
Even my old E30 BMW is starting to run into this issue with 14" tires.
It takes a 195/65/14. When we bought the car in 2002 there were plenty
of choices in tires. Last time I checked, about 2 years ago, there were
only 6 different brands available in that size.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: David Riker [davriker at nwi.net]
Sent: 6/15/2010 10:04:11 AM
To: pythias at pacifier.com;grunthaner at gmail.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool wheel VTO? Just like the AMR Libre. 

I just faced this dilema with my 63 Falcon. I found a nice straight
stock 
set of 13" 5 lug wheels and had them sand blasted and powder coated. I
then 
went to buy tires. The stock C78-13. In radials, that's a 185/80/13. 
Firestone lists them, but has been on national backorder for 8 months, 
Hankook lists them, also on backorder. Maxxis (?). Then there were snow 
tires, and trailer tires. That's it. I found a set at Les Schwab (house 
brand made by Hankook). Next time I need tires for it, my only choice
will 
probably be the reproductions from Cooker Tire, pricey, and Bias Ply. 
Dave Riker 
PS, So how about he makes a set of those wheels in 15"x5 for Midgets? 
They'd work on RWA and Bugeye's....... 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com> 
To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com> 
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool wheel VTO? Just like the AMR Libre. 
I've checked places on tire 
> availability including Tirerack, and find that the selection of 
> 13" tires is slowly dwindling. ONE high performance, NINE all 
> season, and FOUR ice and snow. In the 14s we have choice of 34 
> different tires, only SIX of which are winter. I talked to my 
> tire guy and he said no auto maker has made 13" wheels standard 
> since the mid 1980s, thus the dearth of selection. 


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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 14:15:33 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:15:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rednecks: Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <43762.532170a9.39490a6f@aol.com>
References: <43762.532170a9.39490a6f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimgKaPhZP1c5YA8y4tShP0GJbKbdLfcH5iI-sgH@mail.gmail.com>

DEAD rednecks  (darwinism at work)

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:55 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> Are there other kinds of rednecks?
>
> billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:
>
> a dumb  redneck

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 15 15:25:24 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:25:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <C83D0D44.27FAE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C83D0D44.27FAE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <FE4ECE4230494138908A369A33825076@HomePC>

Billy, out of curiosity, what defines a "sports car" and what did the 
addition of the Ford power do to transform the Midget out of that category?

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 12:58 PM
To: "BJNoSHOV8" <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com>; "'Spridget'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another British Engine

> With lots of horsepower, oversteer is just a touch of the throttle away.
That's true, but I've driven a Ford powered Midget, and it was interesting,
but it wasn't a sports car anymore.
BZ
_______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun 15 16:36:08 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:36:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <FE4ECE4230494138908A369A33825076@HomePC>
Message-ID: <C83D4E68.27FE8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Billy, out of curiosity, what defines a "sports car" and what did the
> addition of the Ford power do to transform the Midget out of that category?
It transformed it into a Hot Rod that was only good for burning rubber in a
straight line, or annoying Big Healey drivers at stop lights. The latter was
kind of fun, but the car was no longer nimble nor well-balanced. It did not
corner well compared to real sports cars, and although admittedly each
corner was a hairy sideways adventure, it was not fast through the turns.
It was also no good at the drags because it made lots of smoke, but never
really hooked up. 
BZ

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jun 15 17:29:54 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:29:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
In-Reply-To: <B95C1FBBE3624644BB285C7BCFB695A4@OwnerPC>
References: <AANLkTim5iYC8Mjf16XslzpfZRFIwj3rRaWc9V76n6BZ1@mail.gmail.com>
	<B95C1FBBE3624644BB285C7BCFB695A4@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiltpAT92aJddmSgjcWi-y33X8Y4T-F8vbs7aJax@mail.gmail.com>

Bud,
Interesting I used to buy parts from The Roadster Factory for my Spitfire.
Good to know they may have Spridget parts.

I sent ED & Peter a message about the solenoid I need hopefully one of them
has a good one as I don't want to buy from Moss or Victoria unless I need
to.

Anyone else out there with a good solenoid for my 62 Sprite let me know.
Lin

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> Hi, Lin.
> Even though they don't "officially" offer or stock Spridget parts, I use
> the Roadster Factory, in Armaugh, PA.  Figure that most Spridget electrical
> components, as well as a lot of hydraulic system components are the same
> parts for the MGB and the Spridget.  You just have to determine which parts
> interchange between the two models and you're good to go.
> Besides patronizing a Pennsylvania business, I really appreciate how TRF's
> staff takes care of their customers.  They're really good folks.
> Bud Osbourne
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" <
> grunthaner at gmail.com>
> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 6:11 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
>
>
>
>  List I am creating a list of companies to buy my Spridget parts from and
>> want to keep away from all Moss parts and very limited Victoria British as
>> well. Can I get some feed back on companies all of you suggest?
>>
>> I would also like to add to the list of companies what part to avoid or
>> add
>> a must to purchase.
>> I couldn't afford to buy all the parts John Mc Cue has on this little
>> Racer
>> but I am sure some will be affordable.
>>
>> Lin

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jun 15 17:41:47 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:41:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool wheel VTO? Just like the AMR Libre.
In-Reply-To: <CADD8E2F35DD4A58B344EE5AF569EB24@MAIN>
References: <AANLkTilcp-VnC1uleDpAfp0lod6yUF2fnfrN1LOHg1lC@mail.gmail.com>
	<1339897114.20100615055043@pacifier.com>
	<CADD8E2F35DD4A58B344EE5AF569EB24@MAIN>
Message-ID: <8610453674.20100615164147@pacifier.com>

Hello David,

     the most comprehensive list I've seen of what's available in any
     size is here..

     http://www.buynewtires.com/

     Brands you know and brands you remember and brands you've never
     heard of.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I'm sailing near the Isle of Wight," said Tom insolently.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 15 18:09:09 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:09:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <C83D4E68.27FE8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C83D4E68.27FE8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <9C88D1E1532A48F6BED3C44C7ED935FE@HomePC>

Ok, some points well taken.  But let's say the engine transplant was a 
lighter AND more powerful engine.  Say the same weight but four times the 
horsepower.  Would that be OK?  They exist.  It should handle just as well. 
Would that be OK?

I used to think of a sports car as being an open roof, great handling and a 
good power to weight ratio.  Let's face it a stock Bugeye has a terrible 
power to weight ratio.  And the square bodies aren't much better.  Does that 
make them a bad example of a sports car?  How many of us have souped up our 
cars or swapped engines for more power?  At what point does that make it no 
longer a sports car?

I have also owned a car that I considered a "sports car", but more 
accurately a "GT" car (a 240Z).  Is a "GT" car a separate classification or 
a sub-classification?

I'd be interested to hear other's definitions of a "sports car".

Let the battle begin!

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:36 PM
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "'Spridget'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another British Engine

> Billy, out of curiosity, what defines a "sports car" and what did the
> addition of the Ford power do to transform the Midget out of that 
> category?
It transformed it into a Hot Rod that was only good for burning rubber in a
straight line, or annoying Big Healey drivers at stop lights. The latter was
kind of fun, but the car was no longer nimble nor well-balanced. It did not
corner well compared to real sports cars, and although admittedly each
corner was a hairy sideways adventure, it was not fast through the turns.
It was also no good at the drags because it made lots of smoke, but never
really hooked up.
BZ 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun 15 18:48:51 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:48:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiltpAT92aJddmSgjcWi-y33X8Y4T-F8vbs7aJax@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C83D6D83.27FF8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Anyone else out there with a good solenoid for my 62 Sprite let me know.
> Lin
The '62 had a cable operated switch instead of a solenoid. I swapped mine
for a push button on the dash, and one of the later solenoids with a push
button on the bottom, which makes it as cool as a Hudson Hornet.
BZ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 15 19:50:14 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:50:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <9C88D1E1532A48F6BED3C44C7ED935FE@HomePC>
References: <C83D4E68.27FE8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<9C88D1E1532A48F6BED3C44C7ED935FE@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4C182DD6.90202@comcast.net>

On 6/15/2010 8:09 PM, Larry Daniels wrote:

> I have also owned a car that I considered a "sports car", but more
> accurately a "GT" car (a 240Z).  Is a "GT" car a separate classification or
> a sub-classification?

When did a "GT" car become a "sports" car.
GT stands for (stood for) Grand Touring, a grand touring car was a 4 
door convertible or a GRAND car with no top so you could see what you 
were touring.

And what about "SUV" Sports, Utility, Vehicle.
Nothing sporty about any of them, and none of them are very utilitarian.
I love watching owners of them try and load anything besides groceries 
in the back on the fancy wooly carpets. :)
But they are "vehicles".
The basic station wagon was more utilitarian, it would hold a 4x8 sheet 
of plywood and a stack of 2x4s and STILL fit 3 across the front seat.
Can you do that in ANY jeep out there made since 1990?

Sports cars, as I see it, are open cars suitable for the open road and 
the race track.
They call big Healeys "sports cars" but they handle like a Massey 
Furgeson. They are great in a straight line. But they are open and some 
have made it to the track.
MG T series were called Sports cars, not very fast but again, open and 
on the race track in their heyday.

I don't think Sporty looking classifies a car as a sports car.
Everything is sporty looking in their owners eye.
Is a Toyota Crapolla S a "sports car"?
What does the "S" stand for, I have a good idea, they just couldn't fit
the -hit after the S.
The Toyota truck at least has the letters TuRD on it.

Now lets talk about "Sports Coups" BMWs, Audis, Fiats, etc
Snappy smaller nimble cars.

These are just some of my unbiased opinions.
I am sure I will be "corrected" even if I think I am not wrong ;)
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun 15 21:06:53 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:06:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C182DD6.90202@comcast.net>
References: <C83D4E68.27FE8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<9C88D1E1532A48F6BED3C44C7ED935FE@HomePC> <4C182DD6.90202@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C183FCD.2000504@justbrits.com>

< <it would hold a 4x8 sheet of plywood and a stack of 2x4s and STILL fit
3 across the front seat. >>

Ditto my El Camino[s] EXCLUDING the POS '80, Frank <VBG> !!
AND blow the doors off the "station wagon".  AND, UN-like
the majority of "drivers" around here CAN "drive" her.

Just the other day an IDIOT wanna-be "sports car" steerer
started pushing me down hill on a really neat double "S" curved
on-ramp to a 55mph highway in his "hot" Bimmer [top down-
windows UP - WTF??] and I nailed the Camino on the apex of
the 2nd 'curve'.  A buddy of mine Local Police Officer saw me
in the tavern I took you & Pieces to and asked if it had been
me in front of a Bimmer on the ON ramp to Rt. 83. 
Guess the look on my face answered he question and it turn out
he had put said Bimmer in the DITCH/tall  grass !!  My buddy was
the Investigating Officer<G>!!

Cop [a long time pal] bought me a beer AFTER I quite LMAO !!!
Was NOT even "difficult" ramp !!  Honest to God, I STILL
laugh thinking about it 2+ weeks later !!!

So I "guess" I drive a GT ?????  What class, 'Hopper ??

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 21:36:04 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:36:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C182DD6.90202@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <890958.13971.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> These are just some of my unbiased opinions.
> I am sure I will be "corrected" even if I think I am not
> wrong ;)

No, I think you hit the nail on the head (no carpenter pun intended). I spent 3000 miles in a 2008 328i on two long drives recently; phenomenal car, but not a sports car to me. I also spent a lot of time in a 2008 and a 2010 Corvette this weekend; again PHENOMENAL car in nearly every respect. It was so good at so many things that I might not call it a sports car (but it does win the "Car I would want to drive on my new 48 mile daily commute on an empty highway" award). Hard to explain, but there has to be a certain purity and sense of drama that adds to the reward of the experience. It also has to be something that a lot of people would not want to drive every day.

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 15 21:55:14 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 20:55:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C183FCD.2000504@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <375389.32681.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, Shop at " Just Brits " <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> So I
"guess" I drive a GT ?????  What class, 'Hopper
> ??
> 
> Ed

Well, it DOES
fit my criteria of being something most people would not want to drive.....
Ron

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 15 22:00:12 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 00:00:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.
Message-ID: <5B716F6E95CF44A2BCD085BD8729C10D@blackbox2>

In the past two British car shows that I attended in the past few weeks, I
met two individuals who have 

converted steel wheel cars to wires.

 

At the Westtown affair, I met a gentleman who converted a 71 Midget and who
had done so by simply 

swapping the wire axles in.

 

He said he and his brother took the car out for a test spin and as soon as
they went up a steep hill the 

limited engaged splines striped off the axle.   In this case they were
unaware of the different lengths

of the axles.    He indicated that the axle did not break clean, but
actually shaved just the splines off.

 

At the Hellertown affair, I met a fellow, Chris, who converted his Bugeye to
wires several years ago.

He resolved the issue by pressing the axles out of the wire hubs to extend
the effective length of the axle 

to be the same as the steel wheel axle.   He indicated that there is plenty
of spline engagement in the hubs

that can be sacrificed for this purpose.

 

So tonight I pulled the Welch plugs out of my wire wheel axles and did some
comparative measurements

between a standard steel wheel axle and a wire wheel axle.

 

First off, you need 1 inch of spline engagement on the differential side.  I
can see the wear marks on my

standard axle that indicate this.

 

The wire wheel axle is short by .64 inches.   You would only have .36 inches
of spline engagement if you just 

swapped them in.  Clearly not enough.

 

There is approximately 1.95 inches of spline engagement of the axle into the
wire wheel hub. 

This is plenty to spare, just as Chris indicated.

 

So tomorrow I am taking my axles over to the machine shop to have them
pressed out the required amount.

 

One more thing..  The axles are secured to the wire hubs with two or three
very light spot welds.

There are no big side loads here.  The spot welds are just to make sure they
don't shift and are

minimal enough to be overcome by the hydraulic press.


I'll have to redo these spot welds when I get the axles back.

 

One other thing..  One of these guys told me that the front calipers on the
steel wheel cars have a boss

that hits the wire wheels and must be ground off.  I don't know if I believe
this but I will cross that bridge 

when I come to it.

 

So do you all see it now?  Do you see how the Creator makes the multitude of
barriers in order to

stall/prevent this job from getting done?  Do you see how others have tried
and failed?

Do you see the quest?    You have to make careful measurements.You have to
conjure up electrical arcs..

travel to the gathering place and consult the tribal elders.listen to the
tales of the fallen.barter with the 

blacksmith to make the special armour.etc..etc...

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 00:15:23 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 01:15:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C182DD6.90202@comcast.net>
References: <C83D4E68.27FE8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<9C88D1E1532A48F6BED3C44C7ED935FE@HomePC> <4C182DD6.90202@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilLlc4rgqKdB9NfmMkMdiqdh-bdvhZGNxMrCDNX@mail.gmail.com>

I loaded up a small chopper motorcycle in the Pathfinder on Sunday. I had to
lower the handlebars to do it though. I made a 3/4" plate to fit the back of
said PF, so that things don't catch on the "wooly carpets". Several weeks
back, I hauled a trailer with my spare GTO nose to a new storage facility,
and had my Ralley II's, with tires, front disc spindles and A arms, valance,
and other various GTO parts in the interior, so as to not have small bits
bouncing off the trailer during transport.

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

>
>
> And what about "SUV" Sports, Utility, Vehicle.
> Nothing sporty about any of them, and none of them are very utilitarian.
> I love watching owners of them try and load anything besides groceries in
> the back on the fancy wooly carpets. :)
> But they are "vehicles".
>
-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 03:38:40 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:38:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
In-Reply-To: <C83D6D83.27FF8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTiltpAT92aJddmSgjcWi-y33X8Y4T-F8vbs7aJax@mail.gmail.com>
	<C83D6D83.27FF8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinpnkuYnTsMSHQQbhGLW_lRMNVFFxTVLFTWg1aH@mail.gmail.com>

Yes Billy my 62 has a cable but catalogs lit the cable switch as the
solenoid are you saying yours is electric and operated via a button?

At this point I would take anything that works and works well. Where did you
get the solenoid switch and would you have a picture of that?
Lin

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > Anyone else out there with a good solenoid for my 62 Sprite let me know.
> > Lin
> The '62 had a cable operated switch instead of a solenoid. I swapped mine
> for a push button on the dash, and one of the later solenoids with a push
> button on the bottom, which makes it as cool as a Hudson Hornet.
> BZ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 16 05:59:12 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:59:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinpnkuYnTsMSHQQbhGLW_lRMNVFFxTVLFTWg1aH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiltpAT92aJddmSgjcWi-y33X8Y4T-F8vbs7aJax@mail.gmail.com>
	<C83D6D83.27FF8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<AANLkTinpnkuYnTsMSHQQbhGLW_lRMNVFFxTVLFTWg1aH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C18BC90.5010408@comcast.net>

On 6/16/2010 5:38 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> Yes Billy my 62 has a cable but catalogs lit the cable switch as the
> solenoid are you saying yours is electric and operated via a button?
>
> At this point I would take anything that works and works well. Where did you
> get the solenoid switch and would you have a picture of that?


Linda

We can put a later electric solenoid in Pinky and replace the ignition 
switch with one from a MKIII.
Now you just turn the key to start it., no more cable.
We did this to the Holy Sprite and the LadyBug.
The MKII dash has the smaller ignition key switch and the MKIII switch 
fits right in the same hole.
Let me know, I have the parts but I do not have a new electric solenoid, 
I don't think I even have a good used one.
I used them all over the years.
And do NOT get a Lucas solenoid in a green box that was made in India.
Do NOT buy a Lucas key switch from India either, it's not even close.
I have a switch, we can use a Ford solenoid or maybe someone has an NOS
Lucas (orange or red box) they can part with.

Option #2, just get the original pull solenoid.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 16 07:21:19 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:21:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
In-Reply-To: <201006141230467.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201006141230467.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w106DCB657C81693F7CE7E4C2DE0@phx.gbl>

Peter,


Did you try www.cubcadetparts.com?

www.partstree.com

Found some info about cadet ptos here:

http://onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=606
 and a diagram of it here:
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30

some new and used ones here.

http://www.mowergraveyard.com/cub-cadet-m-1.html?page=10&alpha_filter_id=71&s
ort=3a

HTH,



Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:30:20 -0500
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: peter at nosimport.com
> Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
>
> Damn... can't work on the cars, if'n the grass don't get cut.
>
> Need an electric PTO coil or setup for Cub Cadet 1650 quiet series
> Kohler. All 1250-1650 fit. Mid 70's era.
>
> Or knowledge on how to wire and insulate the electric magnet coil.
>
> Peter C
> _______________________________________________
>

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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 16 07:32:24 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 06:32:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.
In-Reply-To: <5B716F6E95CF44A2BCD085BD8729C10D@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <829430.47111.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dean,
I had the same concerns about the axles on my wire wheel Midget because it was
a conversion using a disk wheel axle housing. Recently I rebuilt the rear
suspension and converted back to disk wheels. The wire wheel axle was engaged
1/2" and was showing a notch worn into the splines, a textbook stress raiser.
I've been driving this car for 5 years and  try to take care of the clutch and
axles, but suspect these axles were going to meet the same fate. You can see
the notches on this pic;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastvee/4550504969/
John

--- On Wed, 6/16/10, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

At the Westtown affair, I met a gentleman who converted a 71 Midget and who
had done so by simply swapping the wire axles in.
He said he and his brother took the car out for a test spin and as soon as
they went up a steep hill the limited engaged splines striped off the
axle.   In this case they were unaware of the different lengths of the axles.
He indicated that the axle did not break clean, but actually shaved just the
splines off.

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Jun 16 08:11:27 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:11:27 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Solenoid
Message-ID: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

Lin- my '62 MKII has a solenoid that is push button activated from the dash.
The solenoid is VERY similar to a 60s-70s era Ford solenoid (Battery in,
Battery out, switch power in, ground out) easy to hook up to a momentary
contact switch. Your Spitfire had a similar setup IIRC, at least around the
'65 timeframe.


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016


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From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jun 16 08:17:35 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:17:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w106DCB657C81693F7CE7E4C2DE0@phx.gbl>
References: <201006141230467.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<BAY145-w106DCB657C81693F7CE7E4C2DE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <343940.22634.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

A useful link for any Cub Cadet owner as what they require more than anything else is parts and lots of them.

My solution was to hire someone to mow the lawn. Not cheap but the same as I would spend on annual repairs for the Cub Cadet.

 jay
Cub Cadet owner since 1990



________________________________
From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
To: peter at nosimport.com; spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 9:21:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content

Peter,


Did you try www.cubcadetparts.com?

www.partstree.com

Found some info about cadet ptos here:

http://onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=606
and a diagram of it here:
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30

some new and used ones here.

http://www.mowergraveyard.com/cub-cadet-m-1.html?page=10&alpha_filter_id=71&s
ort=3a

HTH,

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jun 16 08:40:42 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:40:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilLlc4rgqKdB9NfmMkMdiqdh-bdvhZGNxMrCDNX@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100616144042.6WIQT.440284.root@cdptpa-web26-z02>

I carried a Midget hood in the back of my 1997 Ford Taurus.


> I loaded up a small chopper motorcycle in the Pathfinder on Sunday. I had to
> lower the handlebars to do it though. I made a 3/4" plate to fit the back of
> said PF, so that things don't catch on the "wooly carpets". Several weeks
> back, I hauled a trailer with my spare GTO nose to a new storage facility,
> and had my Ralley II's, with tires, front disc spindles and A arms, valance,
> and other various GTO parts in the interior, so as to not have small bits
> bouncing off the trailer during transport.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 16 08:51:25 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 07:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.
In-Reply-To: <829430.47111.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <520688.12011.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

When I converted my bugeye to wire wheels I air chiseled the welch plug out
from inside the wire wheel hub and pressed the axle out to match the length of
the disc wheel axle (about 3/4-5/8")  This allows the splines to fully engage
in the diff.  Haven't noticed any problems.  BTW, you need to replace the
welch plug with a new one or an appropriately sized rubber ball or you'll leak
gear oil all over your brake shoes.

Rick


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--- On Wed, 6/16/10, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Dean Hedin"
<dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 9:32 AM

Dean,
I had the same concerns about the axles on my wire wheel Midget because it
was
a conversion using a disk wheel axle housing. Recently I rebuilt the rear
suspension and converted back to disk wheels. The wire wheel axle was engaged
1/2" and was showing a notch worn into the splines, a textbook stress raiser.
I've been driving this car for 5 years and  try to take care of the clutch
and
axles, but suspect these axles were going to meet the same fate. You can see
the notches on this pic;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastvee/4550504969/
John

--- On Wed, 6/16/10, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

At the Westtown affair, I met a gentleman who converted a 71 Midget and who
had done so by simply swapping the wire axles in.
He said he and his brother took the car out for a test spin and as soon as
they went up a steep hill the limited engaged splines striped off the
axle.   In this case they were unaware of the different lengths of the axles.
He indicated that the axle did not break clean, but actually shaved just the
splines off.
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From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Wed Jun 16 09:50:46 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:50:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.
References: <520688.12011.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <158FAD8557574383A24581959DA02479@MAINCOMPUTER>

On my bugeye I had extra Wire axles machined to allow the splines to bolt on 
to the ogiginal drums, Simple and effective with no axle problems.

Jim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "HealeyRick" <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Dean Hedin" 
<dlh2001 at comcast.net>; "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.


> When I converted my bugeye to wire wheels I air chiseled the welch plug 
> out
> from inside the wire wheel hub and pressed the axle out to match the 
> length of
> the disc wheel axle (about 3/4-5/8")  This allows the splines to fully 
> engage
> in the diff.  Haven't noticed any problems.  BTW, you need to replace the
> welch plug with a new one or an appropriately sized rubber ball or you'll 
> leak
> gear oil all over your brake shoes.
>
> Rick
>
>
> Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>
> --- On Wed, 6/16/10, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Dean Hedin"
> <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 9:32 AM
>
> Dean,
> I had the same concerns about the axles on my wire wheel Midget because it
> was
> a conversion using a disk wheel axle housing. Recently I rebuilt the rear
> suspension and converted back to disk wheels. The wire wheel axle was 
> engaged
> 1/2" and was showing a notch worn into the splines, a textbook stress 
> raiser.
> I've been driving this car for 5 years and  try to take care of the clutch
> and
> axles, but suspect these axles were going to meet the same fate. You can 
> see
> the notches on this pic;
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastvee/4550504969/
> John
>
> --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> At the Westtown affair, I met a gentleman who converted a 71 Midget and 
> who
> had done so by simply swapping the wire axles in.
> He said he and his brother took the car out for a test spin and as soon as
> they went up a steep hill the limited engaged splines striped off the
> axle.   In this case they were unaware of the different lengths of the 
> axles.
> He indicated that the axle did not break clean, but actually shaved just 
> the
> splines off.
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 10:38:33 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 09:38:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <20100616144042.6WIQT.440284.root@cdptpa-web26-z02>
References: <AANLkTilLlc4rgqKdB9NfmMkMdiqdh-bdvhZGNxMrCDNX@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100616144042.6WIQT.440284.root@cdptpa-web26-z02>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4aCoVCnTf2ERjJFfRVrhEnsIcPgzRsCUgeU9O@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:40 AM, <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

> I carried a Midget hood in the back of my 1997 Ford Taurus.
>


So did that make the Taurus a sportscar?
Hal

From frogeye at cox.net  Wed Jun 16 10:46:34 2010
From: frogeye at cox.net (frogeye)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:46:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversions
Message-ID: <0BCB90FC680044B9BBCB3818E68CF86E@maind>

I had fabricated a bolt on wire wheeled hub from an extra rear axle shaft and
sent it to Jim F. to try.
I found that by cutting the axle shaft off a pair of spare rear axles from a
wire wheeled car and using them to bolt onto your existing rear brake drums is
the way to go.
Easy and you don't even have to go inside your rear end at all.
If your considering that conversion , and do have an extra set of rear shats
from a wire wheeled car, look into that.
I think you'll find it is less labor and much much easier.
I am sure Jim F and I can provide details off the list, if needed
Then just focus on the front two hubs and go from there
Alan

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun 16 10:46:53 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:46:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>

Do starters get weak when they are nearing failure?
Battery voltage is 12.95; starter usually has a hard time turning the engine 
over except when it is hot; engine starts fine when it turns over enough.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jun 16 10:54:12 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:54:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
In-Reply-To: <343940.22634.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <201006141230467.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<BAY145-w106DCB657C81693F7CE7E4C2DE0@phx.gbl>
	<343940.22634.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201006160954868.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Many thanks for the responses on and off-list. I have the magnetic 
coil only coming, NOS!  (woohoo).  I rebuilt the 16HP Kohler engine 
this winter, as well as a few other bits of this machine. This should 
get me to about $400 spent which would make me feel bad, except when 
I walk in the IH showroom and see inferior machines for almost 3 grand.

We'll be mowing any day now (and raking..........)

Thanks again.
         Peter
==
At 09:17 AM 6/16/2010, Jay wrote:
>A useful link for any Cub Cadet owner as what they require more than 
>anything else is parts and lots of them.
>
>My solution was to hire someone to mow the lawn. Not cheap but the 
>same as I would spend on annual repairs for the Cub Cadet.
>
>  jay
>Cub Cadet owner since 1990
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
>To: peter at nosimport.com; spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 9:21:19 AM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
>
>Peter,
>
>
>Did you try www.cubcadetparts.com?
>
>www.partstree.com
>
>Found some info about cadet ptos here:
>
>http://onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=606
>and a diagram of it here:
>http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=30
>
>some new and used ones here.
>
>http://www.mowergraveyard.com/cub-cadet-m-1.html?page=10&alpha_filter_id=71&s
>ort=3a
>
>HTH,

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jun 16 11:02:18 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:02:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
In-Reply-To: <201006160954868.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201006141230467.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<BAY145-w106DCB657C81693F7CE7E4C2DE0@phx.gbl>
	<343940.22634.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<201006160954868.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <988373.24326.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Cub Cadet made a great tractor when they were owned by International Harvester, but years ago they were acquired by MTD, the same company that owns White and offers products at the orange-colored store.

Under warranty, my tractor had the wiring harness replaced and the PTO replaced (parts only on that one.) I regularly replace the drive pulley and it requires frequent repairs and replacement of PTO switches.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct





________________________________
From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
To: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>; spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, June 16, 2010 12:54:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content

Many thanks for the responses on and off-list. I have the magnetic 
coil only coming, NOS!  (woohoo).  I rebuilt the 16HP Kohler engine 
this winter, as well as a few other bits of this machine. This should 
get me to about $400 spent which would make me feel bad, except when 
I walk in the IH showroom and see inferior machines for almost 3 grand.

We'll be mowing any day now (and raking..........)

Thanks again.
         Peter
==
At 09:17 AM 6/16/2010, Jay wrote:
>A useful link for any Cub Cadet owner as what they require more than 
>anything else is parts and lots of them.
>
>My solution was to hire someone to mow the lawn. Not cheap but the 
>same as I would spend on annual repairs for the Cub Cadet.
>
>  jay
>Cub Cadet owner since 1990

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 11:48:22 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:48:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
Message-ID: <AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>

Michael,
My Sprite is experiencing a similar problem but works better if started via
the solenoid under the hood, which I am replacing then off to the starter. I
had sent my battery out to Interstate for a load test and that was very good
so it wasn't the battery.
Lin

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Do starters get weak when they are nearing failure?
> Battery voltage is 12.95; starter usually has a hard time turning the
> engine over except when it is hot; engine starts fine when it turns over
> enough.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 11:54:11 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:54:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Good" Spridget parts list
In-Reply-To: <4C18BC90.5010408@comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTiltpAT92aJddmSgjcWi-y33X8Y4T-F8vbs7aJax@mail.gmail.com>
	<C83D6D83.27FF8%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<AANLkTinpnkuYnTsMSHQQbhGLW_lRMNVFFxTVLFTWg1aH@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C18BC90.5010408@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim0VUGIOo0-H6L2f_lnltIM96FHDighhcJMQaQg@mail.gmail.com>

Frank,
I am going to buy a new solenoid from Ed if he has the correct one, Ed if
you don't have the solenoid Frank mentions, Lucas (orange or red box)  I'll
just go with a Ford and switch : )
Lin

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> On 6/16/2010 5:38 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>
>> Yes Billy my 62 has a cable but catalogs lit the cable switch as the
>> solenoid are you saying yours is electric and operated via a button?
>>
>> At this point I would take anything that works and works well. Where did
>> you
>> get the solenoid switch and would you have a picture of that?
>>
>
>
> Linda
>
> We can put a later electric solenoid in Pinky and replace the ignition
> switch with one from a MKIII.
> Now you just turn the key to start it., no more cable.
> We did this to the Holy Sprite and the LadyBug.
> The MKII dash has the smaller ignition key switch and the MKIII switch fits
> right in the same hole.
> Let me know, I have the parts but I do not have a new electric solenoid, I
> don't think I even have a good used one.
> I used them all over the years.
> And do NOT get a Lucas solenoid in a green box that was made in India.
> Do NOT buy a Lucas key switch from India either, it's not even close.
> I have a switch, we can use a Ford solenoid or maybe someone has an NOS
> Lucas (orange or red box) they can part with.
>
> Option #2, just get the original pull solenoid.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Jun 16 11:55:43 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 17:55:43 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin healey encounter 2010
Message-ID: <306994370.6689741276710943083.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

The austin healey encounter 2010 is just outside philly in montgomery county at normandy farms blue bell pa august 11-15th 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 12:00:10 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:00:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Solenoid
In-Reply-To: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTindKajjjOdmkYwUiiHGhZMkANGHh3MSAtmauYu2@mail.gmail.com>

Nice Mark, Frank mentioned that too. If I can't get the good solenoid I'll
go with Ford.
Lin

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> Lin- my '62 MKII has a solenoid that is push button activated from the
> dash. The solenoid is VERY similar to a 60s-70s era Ford solenoid (Battery
> in, Battery out, switch power in, ground out) easy to hook up to a momentary
> contact switch. Your Spitfire had a similar setup IIRC, at least around the
> '65 timeframe.
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016
>
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 16 12:15:12 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:15:12 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
In-Reply-To: <201006160954868.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201006141230467.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<BAY145-w106DCB657C81693F7CE7E4C2DE0@phx.gbl>,
	<343940.22634.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<201006160954868.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w50F96FD51DB2CDA92738D6B8DE0@phx.gbl>

Kohler?  Is that an ElCubMeno?

Robert Duquette

> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:54:12 -0500
> To: jfishbein at snet.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: peter at nosimport.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
>
> Many thanks for the responses on and off-list. I have the magnetic
> coil only coming, NOS!  (woohoo).  I rebuilt the 16HP Kohler engine
> this winter, as well as a few other bits of this machine. This should
> get me to about $400 spent which would make me feel bad, except when
> I walk in the IH showroom and see inferior machines for almost 3 grand.
>
> We'll be mowing any day now (and raking..........)
>
> Thanks again.
>          Peter
> ==

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jun 16 12:30:13 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:30:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
In-Reply-To: <343940.22634.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20100616183013.NJ616.215979.root@cdptpa-web19-z01>

I tried my best to mow, edge, weedeat my yard and keep it in good shape.  It still wasn't good enough for my wife so she hired someone else to do it.


> A useful link for any Cub Cadet owner as what they require more than anything else is parts and lots of them.
> 
> My solution was to hire someone to mow the lawn. Not cheap but the same as I would spend on annual repairs for the Cub Cadet.

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jun 16 12:34:40 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:34:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin4aCoVCnTf2ERjJFfRVrhEnsIcPgzRsCUgeU9O@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100616183440.BKDRG.216047.root@cdptpa-web19-z01>

It had a DOHC 32-valve V8, and different transmission, springs, shocks, rack, tires, wheels, swaybars from the regular Taurus.  It was a pretty good car but still not a sports car.


> So did that make the Taurus a sportscar?
>
> > I carried a Midget hood in the back of my 1997 Ford Taurus.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 12:49:43 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:49:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>

>> Do starters get weak when they are nearing failure?
>> Battery voltage is 12.95; starter usually has a hard time turning the
>> engine over except when it is hot; engine starts fine when it turns over
>> enough.

Michael, I would try the "large disposable screwdriver between the big
posts of the solenoid" test next.
David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 16 13:08:38 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:08:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <20100616144042.6WIQT.440284.root@cdptpa-web26-z02>
References: <AANLkTilLlc4rgqKdB9NfmMkMdiqdh-bdvhZGNxMrCDNX@mail.gmail.com>,
	<20100616144042.6WIQT.440284.root@cdptpa-web26-z02>
Message-ID: <4C192136.21233.10B5565@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I can get *2* 40# bags of dog food in the back of my Civic...   ;-)

[Stone Soup?]

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 16 Jun 2010 at 10:40, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com wrote:

> I carried a Midget hood in the back of my 1997 Ford Taurus.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Jun 16 13:41:11 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:41:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
In-Reply-To: <20100616183013.NJ616.215979.root@cdptpa-web19-z01>
References: <20100616183013.NJ616.215979.root@cdptpa-web19-z01>
Message-ID: <82ACEE34-887F-43A3-B5A9-C548665EF38D@comcast.net>

I went on strike some years back.  It was 102 F outside, it rained  
just enough to keep the grass growing and the humidity up, dripping  
sweat, come in and there are my three teenage boys, sitting in the  
house doing nothing.  I said, "No more.  They are all healthy and they  
are young and they can do this."  My wife decided that they were too  
delicate so she now pays for someone to do it.  Didn't achieve all of  
my goals but I am not outside in hot weather unless I want to be.

Lester


On Jun 16, 2010, at 1:30 PM, <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com>  
wrote:

> I tried my best to mow, edge, weedeat my yard and keep it in good  
> shape.  It still wasn't good enough for my wife so she hired someone  
> else to do it.
>
>
>> A useful link for any Cub Cadet owner as what they require more  
>> than anything else is parts and lots of them.
>>
>> My solution was to hire someone to mow the lawn. Not cheap but the  
>> same as I would spend on annual repairs for the Cub Cadet.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 13:40:59 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:40:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Engine in a Sprite
Message-ID: <AANLkTinb-2xKtECUwYC8LlxDKH1qyxFBEwWHhdMTqC0L@mail.gmail.com>

Billy,

What Ford engine was this?  The 250 cu in straight six with power at around
150 hp?

I think there were versions that also produced less power. .  in the 98 HP
range. .  not sure.

I have wondered what weight variables would occur with the 6 compared to the
1275?

Possibly..  not much difference or?

Kirk

From abcoz at hky.com  Wed Jun 16 13:54:12 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:54:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com><18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home><AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>

Or you could save the drama and just push the red, rubber-covered button 
between the two big posts on the solenoid, first.........THEN try with the 
screwdriver, if the starter does not crank vigorously.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tired Starter


>>> Do starters get weak when they are nearing failure?
>>> Battery voltage is 12.95; starter usually has a hard time turning the
>>> engine over except when it is hot; engine starts fine when it turns over
>>> enough.
>
> Michael, I would try the "large disposable screwdriver between the big
> posts of the solenoid" test next.
> David L

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jun 16 14:05:15 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:05:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
In-Reply-To: <68759E41D23E4323AA1B35FE230495CF@Home>
Message-ID: <20100616200515.T9E4P.22906.root@cdptpa-web04-z01>

Even worse, now we have to spend money to fix our sprinkler system.  It will certainly grow if we water it.


> You probably fertilized it.  Never do that!  If you fertilize it, then it 
> grows and you have to mow it.
> 
> Michael Rowe
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
> 
> 
> >I tried my best to mow, edge, weedeat my yard and keep it in good shape. 
> >It still wasn't good enough for my wife so she hired someone else to do it.
> >
> >
> >> A useful link for any Cub Cadet owner as what they require more than 
> >> anything else is parts and lots of them.
> >>
> >> My solution was to hire someone to mow the lawn. Not cheap but the same 
> >> as I would spend on annual repairs for the Cub Cadet.
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage: 
> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mdrowe at optonline.net

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jun 16 14:24:10 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:24:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford Engine in a Sprite
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinb-2xKtECUwYC8LlxDKH1qyxFBEwWHhdMTqC0L@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C83E80FA.19068%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> what weight variables would occur with the 6 compared to the 1275?
Huge weight difference. This one was the Mustang six with three SU's,
headers, and a mild street cam. It had the Ford 3-speed, but we only used
second and third.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 14:28:57 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:28:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com><18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home><AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com> 
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <1317291871676583526@unknownmsgid>

IF there IS a button. Many do not have a button. Besides, if the
solenoid switch is not working well under electrical activation, it
probably will not work well under mechanical activation either
(remember  that it WAS cranking, so the coil of the solenoid is ok).
David L

On Jun 16, 2010, at 14:54, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> Or you could save the drama and just push the red, rubber-covered
> button between the two big posts on the solenoid, first.........THEN
> try with the screwdriver, if the starter does not crank vigorously.

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jun 16 14:45:36 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:45:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Starters, Solenoids, "good" parts, etc.
Message-ID: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

I probably shouldn't write this, but I've had 10 glorious days in 
Canadia doing the fly-in fishing gig, with no phones or computers. Wonderful.

Anyway,  Starters... yes, they can go bad slowly. They are very easy 
to repair with brushes, unless they go too long and the armatures go 
bad. Local rebuilders can repair them easily, and cheaply. Parts are 
readily available. NEW ones are problematic, and the parts don't 
interchange.  The biggest problems are either a loose cable 
connection or an improperly tightened cable connection. The inner nut 
must be held while the outer nut is tightened.... especially on the 
starter with the cover band (25022). The stud is weakly welded to the 
2 hot brushes and this weld will break if the stud is allowed to 
move. The wrench required must be thin and is an odd size. 1/4W or 
nearly 9/16. This connection is often abused resulting in a bad 
connection, premature brush wear, and sparks.

Solenoids.... the cable actuated type, and the later push button 
type, are being made by some place in either India or farther East. 
It doesn't matter much... they're crap. I've gone through several 
push button ones on my car, and they chap my a$$. I had 50, or so, of 
the original Lucas made in UK that I wish I hadn't sold. If you want 
a "good" one, you'll have to find an older one. Nothing in the past 
15 years. Now, do you need one? Understand how they work? 2 large 
studs with copper faces that are bridged with a copper strap when the 
cable is pulled, or button pressed, or the electro-magnet is 
energized (switch). That's it! What goes bad with these is that the 
contact surfaces get dirty or pitted. Dirty can be banged clean, even 
some spray can make it in there. Pitted is the result of prolonged 
contact not made solidly either because of cable adjustment or the 
holding voltage of the ignition switch is wanting.

It doesn't matter if you buy the solenoid from me, Ed, Moss, VB, RF, 
AHS, or GOD, if it is new current stock, it's all the same stuff. If 
you are lucky, you might find one that is the older stock. The part 
number you want for the pull type is 76701  That is Lucas' part 
number. You'll find it stamped on the housing. Don't dis these places 
and their parts because they have the current ones and they are crap. 
TELL THE VENDOR, and maybe they will insist on better quality from 
the manufacturer..... maybe. Maybe you'll have to pay more than 
$34.65.... tell them you are willing to pay $75.00 for a properly 
made one.   Would you?  This is a bigger issue than solenoids, btw.
	
  One of the problems with "our" cars is that the parts are common to 
other cars still current in India, for example, and those parts are 
made for that market, more than for our restorations and occasional 
use, so looks (especially) and quality, um... vary, to be kind.

I gotta go, but had to say this.

Peter C.  oh no, not another fish!

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 15:01:29 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:01:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - MINI Cooper Clubman
Message-ID: <AANLkTilWGfjBH3OKPIoaJiachdGsDsQGp4EkaUlLXSQR@mail.gmail.com>

I'm pretty sure we've got some MINI owners on this list...

I'm considering an off-lease '09 Clubman and have no knowledge of them.
Can any owners out there give me some pointers *OFF LIST* and maybe a quick
phone call?

(Helping a buddy in the process of divorce claim some stuff from his former
home so I might not get back to this until tomorrow or Friday)

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 16 15:36:18 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:36:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com><18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home><AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>

<< Or you could save the drama and just push the red, rubber-covered
button between the two big posts on the solenoid, first >>

THAT would be quite a STUNT Bud, ESPECIALLY since
the "switch" IS actually a MANUAL solenoid activated
via a Pull [cable] Knob on the dash !?!

<VBG> !!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']

From abcoz at hky.com  Wed Jun 16 16:53:50 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:53:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com><18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home><AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com><EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>

On Lin's car, yes.....on Michael's '74, most definitely not.  Mike's should 
have the red button, just like mine.
Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tired Starter


> << Or you could save the drama and just push the red, rubber-covered
> button between the two big posts on the solenoid, first >>
>
> THAT would be quite a STUNT Bud, ESPECIALLY since
> the "switch" IS actually a MANUAL solenoid activated
> via a Pull [cable] Knob on the dash !?!
>
> <VBG> !!!
>
> Ed
> Please visit MY site at:
> www.justbrits.com
> [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
> For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
> [Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 17:01:39 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:01:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimo8a0-frM40eBRH9kGBi__eELamImBSUBqHyMS@mail.gmail.com>

The most likely culprit is a bad cable.  Like perhaps the engine ground.
Unless you have already replaced said cable.  Don't ask me how I know!
Hal

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 16 17:49:17 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:49:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.
Message-ID: <47B31881925D4A0B987A1AD21DE3F43B@blackbox2>

Right,  that's the method I described in my earlier post and that's what  I
intend to do.

 

My point is all the incorrect ways to do this axle conversion that are
floated about:

 

1) You can't just swap the axles in.  You will eventually sheer the splines.
See John's post.

 

2) Taking a true wire wheel axle, cutting off all the half elliptic mounts
and flanges, and then 

re-welding quarter elliptic mounts and flanges so you can put in a Bugeye
HAS BEEN DONE!  

MORE THAN ONCE!  I won't mention any names, but if they are listening in I
am sure they are 

reading this thread with great interest.

 

3) Cutting the hub off the axle to make an "adapter".  Yea, that might work,
but I think pressing 

the axles is easier than cutting and machining, plus you won't be destroying
a perfectly good 

set of axles.

 

 

I definitely concur on the Welch plugs.  I removed mine by drilling a small
hole

in the center and then screwing in a long drywall screw.  I then grabbed the
head

of the screw in the vise and then tapped the axle with Crystal Blue
Persuasion

(the affectionate name of my large, soft faced mallet)  Moss sells
replacements.

But I will probably turn something on the lathe.

 

 

  _____  

From: HealeyRick [mailto:healeyrick at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:51 AM
To: Spridgets; Dean Hedin; fastvee
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.

 


When I converted my bugeye to wire wheels I air chiseled the welch plug out
from inside the wire wheel hub and pressed the axle out to match the length
of the disc wheel axle (about 3/4-5/8")  This allows the splines to fully
engage in the diff.  Haven't noticed any problems.  BTW, you need to replace
the welch plug with a new one or an appropriately sized rubber ball or
you'll leak gear oil all over your brake shoes.

Rick

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Jun 16 18:13:45 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 20:13:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Starters, Solenoids, "good" parts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <87d2rg$8qdcnr@email.mtu.edu>

At 04:45 PM 6/16/2010, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>I probably shouldn't write this, but I've had 10 glorious days in 
>Canadia doing the fly-in fishing gig, with no phones or computers. Wonderful.

So, is it true? Ya know. Teach a man to fish and you've fed him for life?
They say eating the fish from around here will shorten your life so 
maybe you don't have to catch many????


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 18:42:01 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:42:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimo8a0-frM40eBRH9kGBi__eELamImBSUBqHyMS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com> 
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com> 
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com> 
	<AANLkTimo8a0-frM40eBRH9kGBi__eELamImBSUBqHyMS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6070631119834734807@unknownmsgid>

Folks,
There is NO SUCH THING as a "manual solenoid." By definition, a
solenoid requires an electromagnetic coil. The early Spridgets had no
solenoid, they had a cable-actuated switch.
David L

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 16 19:34:25 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 18:34:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Starters, Solenoids, "good" parts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <594965.23822.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 6/16/10, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
> to pay more
than $34.65.... tell them you are willing to pay
> $75.00 for a properly made
one.   Would
> you?  This is a bigger issue than solenoids, btw.

Peter,

NASA
recently announced they will no longer go to low bidder who (claims to) meets
spec and will shop value instead. So....on a recent bid, you had to have your
initial bid be within 1.5% of the lowest bid to be asked to submit a best and
final. So, as you know, most of the world postures about value and then shops
price.

Ron

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jun 16 20:16:17 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:16:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1965 SEBRING SPRITE back up on ebay...
Message-ID: <844507B109C3491187C4C29632C7D094@blackbox2>

Item number:

300438178309

 

Here's your second chance if you missed it the first time around.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 16 20:49:43 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:49:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Starters, Solenoids, "good" parts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <594965.23822.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<594965.23822.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> NASA
> recently announced they will no longer go to low bidder who (claims to) meets
> spec and will shop value instead. So....on a recent bid, you had to have your
> initial bid be within 1.5% of the lowest bid to be asked to submit a best and
> final. So, as you know, most of the world postures about value and then shops
> price.

I work for a municipality and "low bid" is the bane of our existence.
Dilbert nailed it pretty good on 12/19/2009
http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2009-12-19/

Fortunately, most of the stuff I have to get falls into the "three
quote" category wherein you simply have to prove that there were two
other places that would have charged you more for comparable
equipment. I guess it makes sense to someone...

A friend of mine used to work for a  Jewish old folks home (or
whatever the PC terminology is supposed to be). He told me that their
system was to open the bids and immediately discard the high bid and
the low bid and then look at what was left. In my limited experience,
the low bid as frequently as not represents someone who did not
understand the question.
David L

From abcoz at hky.com  Wed Jun 16 20:59:43 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:59:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <1317291871676583526@unknownmsgid>
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Let's just assume it's an original solenoid, which will have the button.  We 
know it cranks OK under certain conditions, right?  That would seem to me to 
indicate a bad connection, somewhere.  If the button on the solenoid 
produces a good response from the starter (under the conditions where it 
previously hasn't cranked well), then the problem can be assumed to be 
"upstream" of the solenoid, right?
If it doesn't have a button (and since it's under the fresh air ducting for 
the heater, ya gotta feel around for it), then, obviously you can't check 
function in that manner.  Personally, from what's been described, I'd be 
looking for a slightly loose or corroded connection first, then checking 
condition of the brushes.
But, since I'm a firm believer in checking the easy/simple/inexpensive stuff 
first; I'd look for that button to push, first, and then I'd bridge the 
solenoid terminal posts.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tired Starter


> IF there IS a button. Many do not have a button. Besides, if the
> solenoid switch is not working well under electrical activation, it
> probably will not work well under mechanical activation either
> (remember  that it WAS cranking, so the coil of the solenoid is ok).
> David L
>
> On Jun 16, 2010, at 14:54, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
>
>> Or you could save the drama and just push the red, rubber-covered
>> button between the two big posts on the solenoid, first.........THEN
>> try with the screwdriver, if the starter does not crank vigorously.

From banjojohn at cox.net  Wed Jun 16 21:19:58 2010
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:19:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
Message-ID: <ABFC5D14383C4479AE7D8CA91137625D@authorizf47d14>

Check all your battery connections.  I had a loose connection once and it
made a hard start symptom.  Be sure you check your ground strap connections.
John O'Brien
'61 bugeye
'65 BJ8

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:47 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter

Do starters get weak when they are nearing failure?
Battery voltage is 12.95; starter usually has a hard time turning the engine

over except when it is hot; engine starts fine when it turns over enough.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun 16 21:32:39 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 23:32:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>
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There is no guarantee that anything on my car actually belongs there except 
maybe the rubber boobies that I took off.  In any case, I do not have a red 
button.

Michael Rowe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tired Starter


> On Lin's car, yes.....on Michael's '74, most definitely not.  Mike's 
> should have the red button, just like mine.
> Bud
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
>
>
>> << Or you could save the drama and just push the red, rubber-covered
>> button between the two big posts on the solenoid, first >>
>>
>> THAT would be quite a STUNT Bud, ESPECIALLY since
>> the "switch" IS actually a MANUAL solenoid activated
>> via a Pull [cable] Knob on the dash !?!
>>
>> <VBG> !!!
>>
>> Ed
>> Please visit MY site at:
>> www.justbrits.com
>> [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
>> For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
>> [Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 04:45:18 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:45:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Starters, Solenoids, "good" parts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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Peter,
Thank you so much for this clarification I think I should go with the Ford
conversion solenoid until I get the better one although I am so tempted to
open it up and clean it. Also I will most likely remove the starter and have
the local auto electric shop who did an outstanding job on my generator re
build the starter. BTW his prices are high $150. I think or more but the job
is done and works great : )
Lin
PS Fishing sounds fun ; )

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> I probably shouldn't write this, but I've had 10 glorious days in Canadia
> doing the fly-in fishing gig, with no phones or computers. Wonderful.
>
> Anyway,  Starters... yes, they can go bad slowly. They are very easy to
> repair with brushes, unless they go too long and the armatures go bad. Local
> rebuilders can repair them easily, and cheaply. Parts are readily available.
> NEW ones are problematic, and the parts don't interchange.  The biggest
> problems are either a loose cable connection or an improperly tightened
> cable connection. The inner nut must be held while the outer nut is
> tightened.... especially on the starter with the cover band (25022). The
> stud is weakly welded to the 2 hot brushes and this weld will break if the
> stud is allowed to move. The wrench required must be thin and is an odd
> size. 1/4W or nearly 9/16. This connection is often abused resulting in a
> bad connection, premature brush wear, and sparks.
>
> Solenoids.... the cable actuated type, and the later push button type, are
> being made by some place in either India or farther East. It doesn't matter
> much... they're crap. I've gone through several push button ones on my car,
> and they chap my a$$. I had 50, or so, of the original Lucas made in UK that
> I wish I hadn't sold. If you want a "good" one, you'll have to find an older
> one. Nothing in the past 15 years. Now, do you need one? Understand how they
> work? 2 large studs with copper faces that are bridged with a copper strap
> when the cable is pulled, or button pressed, or the electro-magnet is
> energized (switch). That's it! What goes bad with these is that the contact
> surfaces get dirty or pitted. Dirty can be banged clean, even some spray can
> make it in there. Pitted is the result of prolonged contact not made solidly
> either because of cable adjustment or the holding voltage of the ignition
> switch is wanting.
>
> It doesn't matter if you buy the solenoid from me, Ed, Moss, VB, RF, AHS,
> or GOD, if it is new current stock, it's all the same stuff. If you are
> lucky, you might find one that is the older stock. The part number you want
> for the pull type is 76701  That is Lucas' part number. You'll find it
> stamped on the housing. Don't dis these places and their parts because they
> have the current ones and they are crap. TELL THE VENDOR, and maybe they
> will insist on better quality from the manufacturer..... maybe. Maybe you'll
> have to pay more than $34.65.... tell them you are willing to pay $75.00 for
> a properly made one.   Would you?  This is a bigger issue than solenoids,
> btw.
>
>  One of the problems with "our" cars is that the parts are common to other
> cars still current in India, for example, and those parts are made for that
> market, more than for our restorations and occasional use, so looks
> (especially) and quality, um... vary, to be kind.
>
> I gotta go, but had to say this.
>
> Peter C.  oh no, not another fish!
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 05:24:05 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 06:24:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
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References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com> 
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 >>> I need to get this streight are you saying this (see below) is
not a solenoid? This is very similar to mine on my 62 and I think
correct me if I am wrong the same as the Bugeye so it is only called a
switch? I have some books saying it is a solenoid ans some say a switch.

Lin,
It serves the main function of a solenoid; it turns on high-amperage
current to the starter. It is not truly a "solenoid." it gets called
one a lot by people who think the term means something about turning
on the starter, but it is a highly inaccurate usage. As I mentioned, a
solenoid is electrically activated. The valve in my gas-fired clothes
dryer which turns on the gas to the burner is a solenoid; the switch
in my Bugeye which turns on the starter is not. Please note that even
the link that you posted calls it a switch.
David L

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun 17 05:45:52 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 07:45:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
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A corroded contact inside a solenoid WILL give you a slow starter 
experience.
My Austin A40, 1275 Sprite engine with an electric solenoid with the 
push button just would not start at any temperature under 40 degrees.
This drove me crazy for a number of years. I could jump start it and it 
would work the rest of the day.
I replaced the starter with no improvement.
It was when I finally replaced the solenoid that the problem went away.
I have opened up bad cable pull solenoids to see just what went bad.
The contacts get black or pitted as Peter said. I try to repeen the 
casing back after cleaning up the old ones because the new ones are 
junk. Sometimes I can get the tin case back and the solenoid works fine.
(My bugeye has a repaired one now) Most of the time, the casing splits 
or does not go back like just right and the solenoid falls apart.
Ask me how I know ;) but if it's broke, I will open it up and at least 
try to fix it or see why it failed. 80% of the time I am successful as 
long as the old part was old and can be opened up.
Modern stuff that is heat sealed or "made to throw away" still gets 
opened up when it fails but at least I try.
Lucas switches from out own toggles to 80s Jaguar rockers can all be 
opened up, cleaned, and will work for another 25 years.
Most toggle switches have cob webs inside thus rendering them useless 
because the contacts are covered in cob webs. I just cleaned out the 
webs in my Bugeye signal switch which would occasionally work if I 
wiggled it. No loose connections but there was a cocoon or something 
inside of it.
Back to the slow starter, it can also be the starter, gummed up, sand in 
the bushings or bendix, dirty contacts, or a semi smoked field winding.
If you jump the contacts on the solenoid and it still spins slow, it's 
not the solenoid.
Do check all the grounds too.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 17 06:35:02 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 05:35:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Pic
Message-ID: <474177.33314.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Don't shoot the messenger! 
http://www.break.com/pictures/the-gayest-car-ever1866455.html
John
Fogelsville, PA

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 17 07:16:44 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:16:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Caution
In-Reply-To: <4C1A0AF0.4020708@comcast.net>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
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	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
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	<F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>
	<F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home> <4C1A0AF0.4020708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1BCF9D91B63C421F81453FC7F4DAB3E3@Home>

That clatter in the rear when you hit bumps might not be the junk in the 
trunk.
It might be that the DPO (Dumb Present Owner) forgot to completely tighten 
the bolts on the shocks when he put the rear end back together 2500 miles 
before!

Anonymous 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 17 07:53:04 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:53:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Pic
In-Reply-To: <474177.33314.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <474177.33314.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <98BB63E01D1B43059A45CE16DA5B02A3@HomePC>

John,

Of course, the question begs to be asked: "What the hell were you looking 
for?"


LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:35 AM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Pic

Don't shoot the messenger!
http://www.break.com/pictures/the-gayest-car-ever1866455.html
John
Fogelsville, PA
_______________________________________________

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 17 07:59:31 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:59:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <4C1A0AF0.4020708@comcast.net>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
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Message-ID: <3796D0CE4C3E4CDE94D82D3A75256B25@Home>

I am so impressed with this group!  Peter C hit it straight on.  It is a bad 
connection at the starter.

I didn't dare try the screwdriver trick - too many things in the way.  So I 
used a jumper cable.  Now I have to find a wrench thin enough to fit the 
inner nut on the stud - maybe pointy vicegrips or a bicycle shop.

Thanks all,
Michael Rowe, DPO 

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jun 17 08:11:29 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:11:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Caution
In-Reply-To: <1BCF9D91B63C421F81453FC7F4DAB3E3@Home>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
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	<1BCF9D91B63C421F81453FC7F4DAB3E3@Home>
Message-ID: <201006170711217.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

And, if left loose for too long the ears will break off.  It's a 
tight squeeze if the socket wall is thick. Use a 1/4" drive socket, 
or even better, use socket headed Allen screws.
         Peter C
=
At 08:16 AM 6/17/2010, Michael Rowe wrote:
>That clatter in the rear when you hit bumps might not be the junk in 
>the trunk.
>It might be that the DPO (Dumb Present Owner) forgot to completely 
>tighten the bolts on the shocks when he put the rear end back 
>together 2500 miles before!
>
>Anonymous _______________________________________________

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 17 08:39:00 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:39:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Starters, Solenoids, "good" parts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <3C392DC56FEB4C2FB1F6CC09738B1F18@Home>

Sometimes the gods smile on me - not often, but sometimes.  I found a 7/16" 
open wrench that I had ground thinner for some other purpose, maybe carbs, 
and it fit the inner starter nut.

Michael Rowe :-) 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 17 08:40:02 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:40:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Cub Cadet parts No SPM content
In-Reply-To: <20100616200515.T9E4P.22906.root@cdptpa-web04-z01>
References: <68759E41D23E4323AA1B35FE230495CF@Home>,
	<20100616200515.T9E4P.22906.root@cdptpa-web04-z01>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w42A4FA5106D77AFF540791B8DF0@phx.gbl>

Fix it?  Just program it to not use the broken ones, and complete its cycle
before the wife gets up.  It's been working for me for almost 2 years.
( I have some installed on city property, to water the grass in front of my
house.  They keep driving over the heads with their trucks. )
Robert

> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:05:15 -0400
> From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com
>
> Even worse, now we have to spend money to fix our sprinkler system.  It will
certainly grow if we water it.
>
>
> > You probably fertilized it.  Never do that!  If you fertilize it, then it
> > grows and you have to mow it.
> >
> > Michael Rowe
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com>
> >
> > >I tried my best to mow, edge, weedeat my yard and keep it in good shape.
> > >It still wasn't good enough for my wife so she hired someone else to do
it.
> > >
> > >> A useful link for any Cub Cadet owner as what they require more than
> > >> anything else is parts and lots of them.
> > >>
> > >> My solution was to hire someone to mow the lawn. Not cheap but the same
> > >> as I would spend on annual repairs for the Cub Cadet.
> > > _______________________________________________

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 08:53:50 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:53:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <3796D0CE4C3E4CDE94D82D3A75256B25@Home>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
	<F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>
	<F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home> <4C1A0AF0.4020708@comcast.net>
	<3796D0CE4C3E4CDE94D82D3A75256B25@Home>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilP9130ktPV8gAqW1nqO3QtAx91_F25HRzim7lZ@mail.gmail.com>

> Now I have to find a wrench thin enough to fit the
> inner nut on the stud - maybe pointy vicegrips or a bicycle shop.

Michael,
Surely you could have waited a couple of days to tell us so that we
could have escalated to full warfare?

I think your best bet would be to buy a flat 13mm cone wrench at your
local bike shop (FLBS) and grind it to fit.
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 17 09:09:22 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:09:22 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>,
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>,
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>,
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>,
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>,
	<F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>,
	<F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w370C24C2964FA26B44118BB8DF0@phx.gbl>

Go to this store and buy one?http://preview.tinyurl.com/33jqt4w

Robert
> There is no guarantee that anything on my car actually belongs there except
> maybe the rubber boobies that I took off.  In any case, I do not have a red
> button.
>
> Michael Rowe

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 09:34:33 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:34:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Starters, Solenoids, "good" parts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <3C392DC56FEB4C2FB1F6CC09738B1F18@Home>
References: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<3C392DC56FEB4C2FB1F6CC09738B1F18@Home>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimI0eZ64Q6waerwBfkSDFhoC-Xd2oRIt8Ve1STB@mail.gmail.com>

> Sometimes the gods smile on me - not often, but sometimes.  I found a 7/16"
> open wrench that I had ground thinner for some other purpose, maybe carbs,
> and it fit the inner starter nut.

Interesting. Peter indicated just under 9/16 (which would be 14mm),
hence my suggestion to start with a 13mm wrench. 7/16, OTOH, would be
about 11mm. Peter doesn't usually make mistakes like that... musta bin
the fishing ;-)

Don't know what you woulda needed a thin 7/16 wrench on the carbs
for... 9/16 for the mounting nuts and 5/8 for the jets, but 7/16???
David L

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 17 09:53:03 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:53:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <C4C37F66FA96426F89FEF2BFE4FD4D49@user8634b3d69b>
References: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>,
	<C4C37F66FA96426F89FEF2BFE4FD4D49@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <SNT124-W4883B8806D7871A72641D3B7DF0@phx.gbl>

Thought you all might enjoy a look at the bits I found where the pressure
release bearing was supposed to be.



http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2016356&id=1007316156&saved#!/photo.php
?pid=31252405&id=1007316156


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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 10:24:15 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:24:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W4883B8806D7871A72641D3B7DF0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>
	<C4C37F66FA96426F89FEF2BFE4FD4D49@user8634b3d69b>
	<SNT124-W4883B8806D7871A72641D3B7DF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTingztluv8uVsljEcu2IvO2EHoldRUJlvvd1ghYo@mail.gmail.com>

Says not available



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>wrote:

> Thought you all might enjoy a look at the bits I found where the pressure
> release bearing was supposed to be.
>
>
>
>
> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2016356&id=1007316156&saved#!/photo.php
> ?pid=31252405&id=1007316156
>
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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 17 10:31:42 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:31:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTingztluv8uVsljEcu2IvO2EHoldRUJlvvd1ghYo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>,
	<C4C37F66FA96426F89FEF2BFE4FD4D49@user8634b3d69b>,
	<SNT124-W4883B8806D7871A72641D3B7DF0@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTingztluv8uVsljEcu2IvO2EHoldRUJlvvd1ghYo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT124-W31FC9D31856E038B8F1F2FB7DF0@phx.gbl>

Sorry about the long link.  This should work better.



http://tiny.cc/764i6





Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:24:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
To: redscirocco at hotmail.com
CC: mgs at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net


Says not available



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
wrote:

Thought you all might enjoy a look at the bits I found where the pressure
release bearing was supposed to be.



http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2016356&id=1007316156&saved#!/photo.php
?pid=31252405&id=1007316156


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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 10:33:14 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:33:14 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion and the rear axles.
Message-ID: <1b020.40f4bc6.394ba84a@aol.com>

Because they didn't buy and read a decent Spridget book???
 
In a message dated 16/06/2010 05:36:13 GMT Daylight Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

In this  case they were
unaware of the different lengths

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 10:34:17 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:34:17 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
Message-ID: <1b156.2d72727f.394ba889@aol.com>

Fishing/Angling, shooting, archery - all sports where you might need a  
utility vehicle?:

Sports,  Utility, Vehicle.
> Nothing sporty about any of  them

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 10:37:03 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:37:03 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversions
Message-ID: <1b4a8.6e812eef.394ba92f@aol.com>

That's good news ('specially for Jaguar owners I guess) as there enough  
people up their own ass in this world already....
 
In a message dated 16/06/2010 18:31:07 GMT Daylight Time, frogeye at cox.net  
writes:

Easy and  you don't even have to go inside your rear end at  all.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 10:41:49 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:41:49 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
Message-ID: <1ba46.13d84ac4.394baa4d@aol.com>

Yep the original had the pressable red button its replacement had a solid  
black 'tit' that doesn't depress.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 16/06/2010 22:05:27 GMT Daylight Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

IF there  IS a button. Many do not have a button

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 17 12:00:01 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:00:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil1fI4S_5-a8xYR18r8nFHflFMV7ja7bZr-sUtt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>,
	<C4C37F66FA96426F89FEF2BFE4FD4D49@user8634b3d69b>,
	<SNT124-W4883B8806D7871A72641D3B7DF0@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTingztluv8uVsljEcu2IvO2EHoldRUJlvvd1ghYo@mail.gmail.com>,
	<SNT124-W31FC9D31856E038B8F1F2FB7DF0@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTil1fI4S_5-a8xYR18r8nFHflFMV7ja7bZr-sUtt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT124-W63BA916C09092543DFB7F6B7DF0@phx.gbl>

My apologies to all for the multiple emails with links that either lead
nowhere or to a login page for facebook.

Here is the public link to my photo.  Either this works, or its my last try.

The photo's not worth any more bother to most people, I'm sure.



http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31252405&l=80c355057c&id=1007316156



In the photo, the two broken pieces are what's left of the release bearing.
The thing on the right is supposed to be attatched to the center of the
pressure plate, but it had broken off and was serving as a release bearing.



Mike Eldred

'73 Midget





Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:21:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
To: redscirocco at hotmail.com

I guess it wasn't you, this is what I got.



This content is currently unavailable
The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily
unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have
permission to view this page.


Return home Plus, you have to have a Facebook account to see them.
Brad


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
wrote:


Sorry about the long link.  This should work better.

http://tiny.cc/764i6




Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:24:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
To: redscirocco at hotmail.com
CC: mgs at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net



Says not available



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
wrote:

Thought you all might enjoy a look at the bits I found where the pressure
release bearing was supposed to be.



http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2016356&id=1007316156&saved#!/photo.php
?pid=31252405&id=1007316156


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From cathe125 at suddenlink.net  Thu Jun 17 12:00:27 2010
From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:00:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cl ad in minneapolis
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilP9130ktPV8gAqW1nqO3QtAx91_F25HRzim7lZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
	<F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>
	<F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home> <4C1A0AF0.4020708@comcast.net>
	<3796D0CE4C3E4CDE94D82D3A75256B25@Home>
	<AANLkTilP9130ktPV8gAqW1nqO3QtAx91_F25HRzim7lZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00af01cb0e46$f7c2f600$e748e200$@net>

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/pts/1796674158.html

good deal for someone in the area.  He lives off hwy 494 in Victoria.

Leo

From cathe125 at suddenlink.net  Thu Jun 17 12:03:08 2010
From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:03:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] another cl project
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilP9130ktPV8gAqW1nqO3QtAx91_F25HRzim7lZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
	<F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>
	<F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home> <4C1A0AF0.4020708@comcast.net>
	<3796D0CE4C3E4CDE94D82D3A75256B25@Home>
	<AANLkTilP9130ktPV8gAqW1nqO3QtAx91_F25HRzim7lZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b001cb0e47$57d93270$078b9750$@net>

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/1718627619.html

Leo

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Thu Jun 17 12:16:16 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:16:16 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <1b156.2d72727f.394ba889@aol.com>
Message-ID: <20100617181616.OQOIY.317163.root@cdptpa-web21-z02>

I think the idea is that it is a UTILITY (read "truck") vehicle that carries your sports equipment.  I just have an aversion to driving a TRUCK every day, but some people don't mind.  Why they think it is cool to drive a vehicle that is uncomfortable, inefficient and handles poorly is beyond me.

Now if your sport is offroad then some small percentage of them would be applicable to that.  OTOH the average Midget would probably do as well offroad as 90% of the SUV's sold.


> Fishing/Angling, shooting, archery - all sports where you might need a  
> utility vehicle?:
> 
> Sports,  Utility, Vehicle.
> > Nothing sporty about any of  them

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 17 13:02:10 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:02:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W63BA916C09092543DFB7F6B7DF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <327675.91958.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Worked fine this time - thanks

--- On Thu, 6/17/10, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
To: tequila.brad at gmail.com, mgs at autox.team.net, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 11:00 AM


My apologies to all for the multiple emails with links that either lead
nowhere or to a login page for facebook.

Here is the public link to my photo.  Either this works, or its my last try.

The photo's not worth any more bother to most people, I'm sure.



http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31252405&l=80c355057c&id=1007316156



In the photo, the two broken pieces are what's left of the release bearing.
The thing on the right is supposed to be attatched to the center of the
pressure plate, but it had broken off and was serving as a release bearing.



Mike Eldred

'73 Midget





Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:21:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
To: redscirocco at hotmail.com

I guess it wasn't you, this is what I got.



This content is currently unavailable
The page you requested cannot be displayed right now. It may be temporarily
unavailable, the link you clicked on may have expired, or you may not have
permission to view this page.


Return home Plus, you have to have a Facebook account to see them.
Brad


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
wrote:


Sorry about the long link.  This should work better.

http://tiny.cc/764i6




Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:24:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
To: redscirocco at hotmail.com
CC: mgs at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net



Says not available



On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:53 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>
wrote:

Thought you all might enjoy a look at the bits I found where the pressure
release bearing was supposed to be.



http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2016356&id=1007316156&saved#!/photo.php
?pid=31252405&id=1007316156


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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jun 17 13:17:38 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:17:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Starters, Solenoids, "good" parts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimI0eZ64Q6waerwBfkSDFhoC-Xd2oRIt8Ve1STB@mail.gmail.c om>
References: <201006161345500.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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Message-ID: <201006171217919.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 10:34 AM 6/17/2010, David Lieb wrote:
>. Peter doesn't usually make mistakes like that... musta bin
>the fishing ;-)
====
Just a piscine mistake.... 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun 17 13:37:07 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:37:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Starters, Solenoids, "good" parts, etc.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimI0eZ64Q6waerwBfkSDFhoC-Xd2oRIt8Ve1STB@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <4C1A7963.1090602@comcast.net>

On 6/17/2010 11:34 AM, David Lieb wrote:
>> Sometimes the gods smile on me - not often, but sometimes.  I found a 7/16"
>> open wrench that I had ground thinner for some other purpose, maybe carbs,
>> and it fit the inner starter nut.
>
> Interesting. Peter indicated just under 9/16 (which would be 14mm),
> hence my suggestion to start with a 13mm wrench. 7/16, OTOH, would be
> about 11mm. Peter doesn't usually make mistakes like that... musta bin
> the fishing ;-)

TDs used the whitworth big nut, Spridgets, most of them use a 1/4" nut 
but the threads are weird, probably still whitworth but a 1/4 x 28 will 
fix them too.
So a 7/16 wrench fits unless some stuck a TD starter in it.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 14:03:11 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:03:11 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
Message-ID: <28ab0.21382f58.394bd97f@aol.com>

One thing I never understood with the heavy duty live cable that goes from  
the Solenoid to the starter - why is it black not red?  On my 69 I replaced 
 it with a red cable.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 17/06/2010 15:47:20 GMT Daylight Time,  
mdrowe at optonline.net writes:

I am so  impressed with this group!  Peter C hit it straight on.  It is a 
bad  
connection at the starter.

I didn't dare try the screwdriver trick  - too many things in the way.  So 
I 
used a jumper cable.  Now I  have to find a wrench thin enough to fit the 
inner nut on the stud - maybe  pointy vicegrips or a bicycle shop.

Thanks all,
Michael Rowe, DPO  

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 14:08:13 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:08:13 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
Message-ID: <29037.6a5ecac3.394bdaad@aol.com>

I guess I'm not most people!  I'm always very interested to see failed  
parts and have never seen one failed like the one you found.
 
Weslake-Monzxa 1330
 
In a message dated 17/06/2010 19:52:39 GMT Daylight Time,  
redscirocco at hotmail.com writes:

The  photo's not worth any more bother to most people, I'm  sure.



http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31252405&l=80c355057c&id=1007316156



In  the photo, the two broken pieces are what's left of the release  
bearing.
The thing on the right is supposed to be attatched to the center  of the
pressure plate, but it had broken off and was serving as a release  bearing.



Mike Eldred

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 14:09:42 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:09:42 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] SUV was Re:  Another British Engine
Message-ID: <291dc.4287eed6.394bdb06@aol.com>

They drive slowly over short distances in built up areas where a lot of  
people can't miss their shiny vehicle because it is so big?
 
In a message dated 17/06/2010 20:02:40 GMT Daylight Time, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com 
 writes:

Why they  think it is cool to drive a vehicle that is uncomfortable, 
inefficient and  handles poorly is beyond me.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jun 17 14:04:27 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:04:27 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
Message-ID: <28c0e.8f53732.394bd9cb@aol.com>

you must log in to see this page.
 
In a message dated 17/06/2010 17:22:56 GMT Daylight Time,  
redscirocco at hotmail.com writes:

Thought  you all might enjoy a look at the bits I found where the pressure
release  bearing was supposed to  be.



http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2016356&id=1007316156&saved#!/photo.ph
p
?pid=31252405&id=1007316156

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 14:54:18 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:54:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <28ab0.21382f58.394bd97f@aol.com>
References: <28ab0.21382f58.394bd97f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTime7Ch1FqtOnOu2PnUGMCAbSv4AEVGEcsFf19Zl@mail.gmail.com>

> One thing I never understood with the heavy duty live cable that goes from
> the Solenoid to the starter - why is it black not red?  On my 69 I replaced
>  it with a red cable.

Electrons are colourblind.
ED

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 17 14:54:30 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:54:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] SUV
In-Reply-To: <291dc.4287eed6.394bdb06@aol.com>
References: <291dc.4287eed6.394bdb06@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C1A8B86.15209.17AA4FD@kk7ss.verizon.net>

So far, in this little community, I've counted three strecthed Hummer 
Limos... two are white the other is black..
Longer than a school bus !!!!!!!!

Ain't no figurin' rich folks!


-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 17 Jun 2010 at 16:09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> They drive slowly over short distances in built up areas where a lot of  
> people can't miss their shiny vehicle because it is so big?

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jun 17 15:00:58 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:00:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <28ab0.21382f58.394bd97f@aol.com>
References: <28ab0.21382f58.394bd97f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <201006171400941.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Because it's not hot all the time, unlike most cables from battery to 
starter mounted solenoids.
         Peter C
-----
At 03:03 PM 6/17/2010, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>One thing I never understood with the heavy duty live cable that goes from
>the Solenoid to the starter - why is it black not red?  On my 69 I replaced
>  it with a red cable.
>
>Weslake-Monza 1330

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 18:45:01 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:45:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <8622598195480567686@unknownmsgid>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
	<AANLkTimo8a0-frM40eBRH9kGBi__eELamImBSUBqHyMS@mail.gmail.com>
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I must have missed this reply David well that makes sense since the manuals
don't say they are solenoids. But this site does say it is called solenoid
switch. Good to know and yes mine may have gummy bug crap in it I will spray
with electric cleaner as I wait for a new switch find.
Lin

http://morrisminorspares.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=781&osCsid=8de6636e246a53fb6d1179eaa1b8093a

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:24 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

>  >>> I need to get this streight are you saying this (see below) is
> not a solenoid? This is very similar to mine on my 62 and I think
> correct me if I am wrong the same as the Bugeye so it is only called a
> switch? I have some books saying it is a solenoid ans some say a switch.
>
> Lin,
> It serves the main function of a solenoid; it turns on high-amperage
> current to the starter. It is not truly a "solenoid." it gets called
> one a lot by people who think the term means something about turning
> on the starter, but it is a highly inaccurate usage. As I mentioned, a
> solenoid is electrically activated. The valve in my gas-fired clothes
> dryer which turns on the gas to the burner is a solenoid; the switch
> in my Bugeye which turns on the starter is not. Please note that even
> the link that you posted calls it a switch.
> David L

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 18:58:21 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:58:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Pic
In-Reply-To: <98BB63E01D1B43059A45CE16DA5B02A3@HomePC>
References: <474177.33314.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<98BB63E01D1B43059A45CE16DA5B02A3@HomePC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinnem1_NMYcWKIjrxDxdN045CM5F_r4QdzEprqL@mail.gmail.com>

You guys are so funny : )
Lin

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> John,
>
> Of course, the question begs to be asked: "What the hell were you looking
> for?"
>
>
> LAD
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:35 AM
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Pic
>
> Don't shoot the messenger!
> http://www.break.com/pictures/the-gayest-car-ever1866455.html
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 19:01:05 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:01:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] cl ad in minneapolis
In-Reply-To: <00af01cb0e46$f7c2f600$e748e200$@net>
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	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
	<F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>
	<F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home> <4C1A0AF0.4020708@comcast.net>
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Aren't those big healey parts? They sure aren't Sprite.
Lin

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM, cathey speichinger <cathe125 at suddenlink.net
> wrote:

> http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/pts/1796674158.html
>
> good deal for someone in the area.  He lives off hwy 494 in Victoria.
>
> Leo
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 19:05:51 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:05:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1965 SEBRING SPRITE back up on ebay...
In-Reply-To: <844507B109C3491187C4C29632C7D094@blackbox2>
References: <844507B109C3491187C4C29632C7D094@blackbox2>
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Was this the same one that fetched 200K?
Lin

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> Item number:
>
> 300438178309
>
>
>
> Here's your second chance if you missed it the first time around.
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From pelliott at innercite.com  Thu Jun 17 18:56:23 2010
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:56:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach
Message-ID: <000001cb0e81$13a658f0$3af30ad0$@com>

IS this the tach I want if I want to convert my '62 mechanical to an
electric?

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160446030527>
&item=160446030527

 

 

 

  _____  

Patrick Elliott

www.SyilAmerica.com
541 297 0004

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun 17 19:37:45 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:37:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach
In-Reply-To: <000001cb0e81$13a658f0$3af30ad0$@com>
References: <000001cb0e81$13a658f0$3af30ad0$@com>
Message-ID: <4C1ACDE9.5030104@comcast.net>

On 6/17/2010 8:56 PM, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> IS this the tach I want if I want to convert my 62 mechanical to an
> electric?

This one is negative ground and the face on the 62 has the screws in the 
wrong spot but I have done it. Drill 2 tiny holes in the dial, swap the 
guts to the 62 housing and the housing will need some minor mods to the 
back so the plugs stick out.
If it has 3 terminals, it is a positive side of the coil hook up, 2 of 
the terminals are plugs, 1 male, 1 female, that is the internal loop 
from the key through the tack to the + on the coil.
Remember, it is negative ground.
The other spade terminal gets a green wire which you can jump off the 
fuel gauge solid green terminal. (hot with key on)
Slip the guts of this new tach into your old housing, make the cut outs 
in the housing, drill the dial for the 2 tiny screws that hold it to the 
new guts, and you're set.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From jjj at acsnet.com  Thu Jun 17 19:44:47 2010
From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 20:44:47 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1276797603.26064.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.17.1276797603.26064.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <3979.66.172.236.69.1276825487.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>

> Since I get the Digest with all things condensed I though I would
condence as well with my .02 on several current topics.

 I have found that the most efficient way to find a bad connection is by
touch. Crank the engine and check immediatly or check while someone else
runs the starter. Only down side is occasional toasted fingers but at
least that is tempered by knowing you have found the problem.

 On wire wheel conversions: I have encountered 2 wire wheel axle's that
were loose in the hub. These were on actual wire wheel cars. I don't
think I would do a conversion by pressing the axles out of the hubs. Only
by using the correct axle housing's.

 When fitting a new carbon throwout bearing I would make sure that the
throwout arm centers the bearing on the pressure plate exactly. It cost
me a redo.

 My opinion's, hope there of some use!!

 Kurt.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jun 17 21:21:01 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:21:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion
In-Reply-To: <3979.66.172.236.69.1276825487.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
References: <mailman.17.1276797603.26064.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<3979.66.172.236.69.1276825487.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
Message-ID: <1AAF7F44FA3246F6804A8911513849A4@blackbox2>

-----Original Message-----

>On wire wheel conversions: I have encountered 2 wire wheel axle's that
>were loose in the hub. These were on actual wire wheel cars. I don't
>think I would do a conversion by pressing the axles out of the hubs. Only
>by using the correct axle housing's.
>My opinion's, hope there of some use!!
>Kurt.

Kurt, I don't doubt that you came across two axles that had issues.
But how do you mean loose? And how did they get this way? 
For those splines to have come loose in the hub somebody had to do something
stupid in assembly at some point, like not tighten the lug nuts that
secure the hub to the bearing hub and then drove it for a while.

The simple fact of the matter is that there is almost 2 inches of spline
engagement in the hub.  In a correct setup only 1 inch of spline engagement
occurs at the differential.  We are only going to press the axles about .6
inch.  That still leaves about 1.4 inches in the hub.  That is still more
than at the differential.

In a perfect world there should be no side loads on the axles that would
cause them to move in or out of the hub.  However the axles need to be
secured in the hubs by some means so the stay located.

The gentleman I spoke with at Hellertown said he used Loctite shaft
retaining compound to secure his in place.   He said that he pressed
the shafts all the way out and then coated them with the Loctite and then
pressed them back in.  He has been driving with these for 5 years.

In any case I prefer to arc weld mine once they are pressed into the proper
location.

What do you think the factory used to secure the axles into the wire wheel
hubs?

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun 17 20:16:48 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:16:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1965 SEBRING SPRITE back up on ebay...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikK5SRE3HOvSn9MhWCotXEFGP1qxWEEXJktvLQb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <844507B109C3491187C4C29632C7D094@blackbox2>
	<AANLkTikK5SRE3HOvSn9MhWCotXEFGP1qxWEEXJktvLQb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A771AA55-F31A-46A2-B3C5-83805AEC62C6@snet.net>

More like the one that got a "bid" of $200,000.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

On Jun 17, 2010, at 9:05 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Was this the same one that fetched 200K?

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 17 22:48:42 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:48:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <29037.6a5ecac3.394bdaad@aol.com>
Message-ID: <181498.17303.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have a wall of offerings to Burt Munroe.

--- On Thu, 6/17/10,
WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> From:
WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets]
[mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
> To: redscirocco at hotmail.com,
mgs at autox.team.net, spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010,
3:08 PM
> I guess I'm not most people! 
> I'm always very interested to see
failed  
> parts and have never seen one failed like the one you
> found.
>
> Weslake-Monzxa 1330
>  
> In a message dated 17/06/2010 19:52:39 GMT
Daylight
> Time,  
> redscirocco at hotmail.com
> writes:
> 
> The  photo's not
worth any more bother to most people,
> I'm  sure.
> 
> 
> 
>
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31252405&l=80c355057c&id=1007316156
> 
>
> 
> In  the photo, the two broken pieces are what's left
> of the release  
>
bearing.
> The thing on the right is supposed to be attatched to the
> center 
of the
> pressure plate, but it had broken off and was serving as a
> release 
bearing.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Eldred
>
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From richard at kleihorst.com  Fri Jun 18 05:44:48 2010
From: richard at kleihorst.com (Richard Kleihorst)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 04:44:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] '59 sprite engine tuning data
Message-ID: <305186.98952.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

 

I am trying to get my new obsession through testing here to get it road legal.
Main challenges are the front shock absorbers, the DPO work on the front
brakes and the emission.
During the initial tests the emission showed a CO rating of 9.5% which is way
too high.
 
At home, I was able to set it to 1.5%, reasonably smooth running at around
850rpm.
It is a 948cc dual H1 setup, K&N filters, with a skimmed head (1mm off) and a
fast road Kent camshaft.
Although the running is pretty regular, only a little bit of "galoping" sound
at the back,
feeling from the seat the car shakes at this idle speed. I achieved a good
balancing between the carbs but noted that the front carb gives me more
feedback with the mixture control screw than the rear carb.
 
What I am missing in the owners manual and factory manual are data for idle
speed
and also ignition advance at idle speed.
Does anyone has good numbers for these and the emission figure I should be
looking at?
 
I am also missing the pointers on the chaincover, or are they usually hiding
from the timing light? The notch is there (I don't need to get out the
Dremel)
 
Should I bring the car back to testing like this (with good CO figures,
running smoothly but a bit shaking?) and set it better afterwards?
 
 
On the front brakes side the DPO mounted the springs at the outer side and you
can guess what happened to the shoes after a while...
For the front shocks, the intial test showed that they are slightly under the
damping limit. Taking  a shortcut I ordered new ones from Angloparts.
 
Richard, waiting to be roadworthy.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 07:11:57 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:11:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] '59 sprite engine tuning data
In-Reply-To: <305186.98952.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <305186.98952.qm@web112401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilg3U0M_BepA56c0MRH0OmjZfLKurExNy8YRtR8@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW, the valve settings will affect the strength of vacuum draw on the
carbs. Set them a bit loose, and not as strong a pull.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Richard Kleihorst <richard at kleihorst.com>wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I am trying to get my new obsession through testing here to get it road
> legal.
> Main challenges are the front shock absorbers, the DPO work on the front
> brakes and the emission.
> During the initial tests the emission showed a CO rating of 9.5% which is
> way
> too high.
>
> At home, I was able to set it to 1.5%, reasonably smooth running at around
> 850rpm.
> It is a 948cc dual H1 setup, K&N filters, with a skimmed head (1mm off) and
> a
> fast road Kent camshaft.
> Although the running is pretty regular, only a little bit of "galoping"
> sound
> at the back,
> feeling from the seat the car shakes at this idle speed. I achieved a good
> balancing between the carbs but noted that the front carb gives me more
> feedback with the mixture control screw than the rear carb.
>
> What I am missing in the owners manual and factory manual are data for idle
> speed
> and also ignition advance at idle speed.
> Does anyone has good numbers for these and the emission figure I should be
> looking at?
>
> I am also missing the pointers on the chaincover, or are they usually
> hiding
> from the timing light? The notch is there (I don't need to get out the
> Dremel)
>
> Should I bring the car back to testing like this (with good CO figures,
> running smoothly but a bit shaking?) and set it better afterwards?
>
>
> On the front brakes side the DPO mounted the springs at the outer side and
> you
> can guess what happened to the shoes after a while...
> For the front shocks, the intial test showed that they are slightly under
> the
> damping limit. Taking  a shortcut I ordered new ones from Angloparts.
>
> Richard, waiting to be roadworthy.
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From jjj at acsnet.com  Fri Jun 18 07:15:14 2010
From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 08:15:14 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion
In-Reply-To: <1AAF7F44FA3246F6804A8911513849A4@blackbox2>
References: <mailman.17.1276797603.26064.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<3979.66.172.236.69.1276825487.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
	<1AAF7F44FA3246F6804A8911513849A4@blackbox2>
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> Kurt, I don't doubt that you came across two axles that had issues.
> But how do you mean loose? And how did they get this way?
> For those splines to have come loose in the hub somebody had to do
> something
> stupid in assembly at some point, like not tighten the lug nuts that
> secure the hub to the bearing hub and then drove it for a while.
>
   Dean: Apparently the factory used only an interference press fit on not
full depth splines. I don't know the history of the axles but if you
think about it there is a pretty good load to cause them to move in
there splines. Just a little play in the bearings would put a good
twist on them. OTOH I have used a lot of good ol Locktite green stud
locker and if anything other than welding would hold them, it should.
 I still would preferr changing axle's housing and all.

Kurt.

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 18 09:05:12 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:05:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 59 BE & 64 Sprite FS
Message-ID: <SNT124-W2A6536122FED16EDFD2F2B7C00@phx.gbl>

NFI, just passing it along.



http://newhaven.craigslist.org/cto/1794208553.html

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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun 18 10:19:50 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:19:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w370C24C2964FA26B44118BB8DF0@phx.gbl>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>
	<F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>
	<F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home>
	<BAY147-w370C24C2964FA26B44118BB8DF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FE8A241F4D6C41EC8EF59FC0DA723A1A@Home>

Well guys and gals, my starter worked better than ever for a whole day.  At 
the end of the day when I was to meet my wife for dinner, it did not work at 
all - power to the pump but no response whatsoever from solenoid or starter. 
I had to leave, so could not trace it.  This morning, it again worked 
perfectly, so I haven't a clue about what happened.

Is that good, because it now works?  Or is that bad, because I now know it 
can fail completely without notice?

I knew the gods would not smile on me for long.  I have sinned too much. 
And I have an LBC.
David.  You asked for it; you got it!

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Jun 18 10:43:13 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:43:13 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
Message-ID: <5d366.1d8c9997.394cfc21@aol.com>

That's a good answer though I still prefer red as there is much less chance 
 of it being mixed up with an earth lead by an 'assistant'.  
 
Did I ever tell the list about the time when I was a kid helping my Dad  
with electrics on the family Morris Minor.  I was about 8 or 9 years old  and 
I don't know what I did except it probably wasn't what I was instructed  to. 
 The result was the car produced a lot of smoke from behind the dash  and 
stopped and I got to walk the rest of the way to school. Car survived.
 
Weslake Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 17/06/2010 22:01:06 GMT Daylight Time,  
peter at nosimport.com writes:

Because  it's not hot all the time, unlike most cables from battery to 
starter  mounted solenoids.
Peter  C

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 18 14:02:34 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:02:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
In-Reply-To: <FE8A241F4D6C41EC8EF59FC0DA723A1A@Home>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>,
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>,
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>,
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>,
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>,
	<F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>,
	<F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home>,
	<BAY147-w370C24C2964FA26B44118BB8DF0@phx.gbl>,
	<FE8A241F4D6C41EC8EF59FC0DA723A1A@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w49FB76E16662C628191C21C2C00@phx.gbl>

Michael,

Why don't you try the swapping the gear reduction starter into it?
 Might allow you to determine whether it's your
Lucas starter or some other problem.
Sounds heat related, might be the starter, or wiring breaking down somewhere.
Maybe if you pull your original starter, and give it a good cleaning, might
help.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:19:50 -0400
> From: mdrowe at optonline.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
>
> Well guys and gals, my starter worked better than ever for a whole day.  At
> the end of the day when I was to meet my wife for dinner, it did not work at
> all - power to the pump but no response whatsoever from solenoid or starter.
> I had to leave, so could not trace it.  This morning, it again worked
> perfectly, so I haven't a clue about what happened.
>
> Is that good, because it now works?  Or is that bad, because I now know it
> can fail completely without notice?
>
> I knew the gods would not smile on me for long.  I have sinned too much.
> And I have an LBC.
> David.  You asked for it; you got it!
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Bugeyed Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
> __________________

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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun 18 15:43:16 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:43:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] McMaster-Carr Supply
Message-ID: <9251DCE820D04D36B8AE1E1A73410002@Home>

Feedback EmailI don't know if this draw latch is made in China (it probably
is), but McMaster-Carr is doing the right thing.

To McMaster-Carr Supply:
Invoice # 53655420 4/26/2010 Draw Latch # 1864A17
One of these just opened and spilled the lock button out on the highway
somewhere.......Can you supply a replacement lock button and spring?


Reply:

Were not able to replace just the button and spring, so well ship a new
latch today.  Theres no need to return the pieces of the defective latch.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun 18 17:04:16 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:04:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] McMaster-Carr Supply
In-Reply-To: <9251DCE820D04D36B8AE1E1A73410002@Home>
References: <9251DCE820D04D36B8AE1E1A73410002@Home>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilHEbjpQyqf0EwbBzMSMb8ChBgf4Z2JkD3_6iKN@mail.gmail.com>

Mike,

Hopefully you won't get an invoice along with the replacement!!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Feedback EmailI don't know if this draw latch is made in China (it probably
> is), but McMaster-Carr is doing the right thing.
>
> To McMaster-Carr Supply:
> Invoice # 53655420 4/26/2010 Draw Latch # 1864A17
> One of these just opened and spilled the lock button out on the highway
> somewhere.......Can you supply a replacement lock button and spring?
>
>
> Reply:
>
> We re not able to replace just the button and spring, so we ll ship a new
> latch today.  There s no need to return the pieces of the defective latch.
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 18 19:37:18 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 21:37:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] McMaster-Carr Supply
In-Reply-To: <9251DCE820D04D36B8AE1E1A73410002@Home>
References: <9251DCE820D04D36B8AE1E1A73410002@Home>
Message-ID: <1591AA20D45E43319C36DD7D7A34EAE9@blackbox2>

They have a lot of useful stuff for Spridgets..

If you care to reline your own brake shoes, or maybe your clutch?
http://www.mcmaster.com/#brake-lining/=7lc3wo


Weather stripping for around the doors that fits better than
the J.C. Whitney stuff (smaller bead), it's not bristoflex, 
but it fits.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#weatherstripping-seals/=7lc5o5


They have a big selection of duct hose, One type is actually pretty close to
the original Bugeye
http://www.mcmaster.com/#rubber-duct-hose/=7lc8de


And your draw latches..
http://www.mcmaster.com/#draw-latches/=7lcc1j

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 18 20:29:07 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 22:29:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Caution
In-Reply-To: <1BCF9D91B63C421F81453FC7F4DAB3E3@Home>
References: <20100616.081127.12433.1@webmail06.dca.untd.com>,
	<18113C5E75B4491381A04ECAA29B37F4@Home>,
	<AANLkTils0plrbvYT9hDxf7ATHYJtpZVPf36ST2cNi2tf@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTimeNT2oCRNFbuxuL8iKvyQK7xV4aRahfA_TFpwG@mail.gmail.com>,
	<EE03EC1CD5B14AF291173D4BE3530790@OwnerPC>,
	<4C1943D2.3000903@justbrits.com>,
	<F7FA188927E3482DB371C430342113EE@OwnerPC>,
	<F76779B4724446C48D5B6F3ACC144F02@Home>
	<4C1A0AF0.4020708@comcast.net>, <1BCF9D91B63C421F81453FC7F4DAB3E3@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w50057169A7AE427524BA3BC2C10@phx.gbl>

Or a loose Panhard bar mount. A nut that can't be tightened without

disassembling most of the right side of the rear suspension, because

it's between the axle tube and the mounting bracket and
between the spring mount and upper control arm mount...
This also causes the rear to get a bit squirrelly..

also anonomous
Bugeyeracer



> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:16:44 -0400
> From: mdrowe at optonline.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Caution
>
> That clatter in the rear when you hit bumps might not be the junk in the
> trunk.
> It might be that the DPO (Dumb Present Owner) forgot to completely tighten
> the bolts on the shocks when he put the rear end back together 2500 miles
> before!
>
> Anonymous
> _______________

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 18 21:11:12 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:11:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1965 SEBRING SPRITE back up on ebay...
In-Reply-To: <844507B109C3491187C4C29632C7D094@blackbox2>
References: <844507B109C3491187C4C29632C7D094@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w28FEAC91F7A185534C1463C2C10@phx.gbl>

He says that it was sent back to England for the restoration,

but I think I have photos of it undergoing restoration in Texas.
I'll have to dig them out, I think I saved them on one of my computers...


In 2005 I believe this car and a similar Sebring roadster were

for sale on race-cars.com, as a pair for IIRC  $130K in 2005, didn't sell
then.
Not positive that's its this car or #62 from that year.
This car became part of the Baker Racing stable (who drove it in 65 to a
win),
Raced in Sebring in 1969 and 1970 as part of the Baker Racing, MacMillan Ring
Free Oil all
women's race team,(of which my Aunt was an alternate driver in 1970), who won
their class.
Wish I could contact Mr Baker. Love to get more info on the cars.

Still LOVE to have this one, come on Lotto!!


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: dlh2001 at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:16:17 -0400
> Subject: [Spridgets] 1965 SEBRING SPRITE back up on ebay...
>
> Item number:
>
> 300438178309
>
>
>
> Here's your second chance if you missed it the first time around.
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jun 19 06:04:38 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:04:38 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Tired Starter
Message-ID: <85d1c.51ef9c92.394e0c56@aol.com>

Have you bench tested the starter - stick on a bench and connect it with a  
couple of jumper cables from the car battery?  You might need an assistant  
to hold the starter.
 
In a message dated 18/06/2010 21:27:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
bugeye15 at hotmail.com writes:

Michael,

Why don't you try the swapping the gear reduction  starter into it?
Might allow you to determine whether it's your
Lucas  starter or some other problem.
Sounds heat related, might be the starter,  or wiring breaking down 
somewhere.
Maybe if you pull your original starter,  and give it a good cleaning, might
help.

Brian  S.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 08:54:47 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:54:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] McMaster-Carr Supply
In-Reply-To: <1591AA20D45E43319C36DD7D7A34EAE9@blackbox2>
References: <9251DCE820D04D36B8AE1E1A73410002@Home>
	<1591AA20D45E43319C36DD7D7A34EAE9@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimafQLkFt__g_2tW3MMWLdNbFRAwcDPNK0uV4ao@mail.gmail.com>

Wow I had no idea Mc Master Carr had so much for our LBC's we buy some of
their products at school and the huge catalogs have been sitting on my desk
at work for years and I never spotted Sprite stuff : )
Thanks,
Lin

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> They have a lot of useful stuff for Spridgets..
>
> If you care to reline your own brake shoes, or maybe your clutch?
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#brake-lining/=7lc3wo
>
>
> Weather stripping for around the doors that fits better than
> the J.C. Whitney stuff (smaller bead), it's not bristoflex,
> but it fits.
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#weatherstripping-seals/=7lc5o5
>
>
> They have a big selection of duct hose, One type is actually pretty close
> to
> the original Bugeye
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#rubber-duct-hose/=7lc8de
>
>
> And your draw latches..
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#draw-latches/=7lcc1j
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 09:05:08 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:05:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Austin on eBay, so ugly she's cute ; )
Message-ID: <AANLkTimAq2RVET62tgAUsUvHcpu4l-ZCQC3lFuBKRPLK@mail.gmail.com>

Ebay number 130401729844

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1951-Austin-A90-1948-1949-1950-Healey-bard-find-chevy-/130401729844?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item1e5c8c7d34#v4-35

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Jun 19 10:15:24 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:15:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <20100617181616.OQOIY.317163.root@cdptpa-web21-z02>
References: <20100617181616.OQOIY.317163.root@cdptpa-web21-z02>
Message-ID: <4C1CED1C.6010607@frontiernet.net>

As the owner of both an SUV (Jeep Cherokee) and a Midget, I can assure 
you that the Midget will not do well off road in my area. I can take the 
dogs out in the desert for a good run with no danger of them getting hit 
by a car on the road or straying onto private property and getting shot 
by a rancher. Then I can load my jon boat on top, put my fishing and 
camping gear and the boat motor in the back and head for the lake. Thus, 
the sport aspect is covered.

I can drive it out in the field, attaching a cable to the hitch and 
spend the day straightening fence posts and using the Jeep to hold them 
straight while I pour cement in the gaps, then go to the farm store and 
load up a bale of hay, a few bags of feed, and some fence posts. This 
covers the utility aspect.

Later I can drive to work in air conditioned comfort, knowing I can 
easily drive around any trains that are frogging the entrance to the 
yard by accessing frontage roads that come standard with pot holes deep 
enough to bury a locomotive.

For sheer pleasure, I drive the Midget on the twistiest roads I can 
find, taking 30 MPH corners at 70+. That is what a true sports car was 
designed for.

Kate

bjshov8 at tx.rr.com wrote:
> I think the idea is that it is a UTILITY (read "truck") vehicle that carries your sports equipment.  I just have an aversion to driving a TRUCK every day, but some people don't mind.  Why they think it is cool to drive a vehicle that is uncomfortable, inefficient and handles poorly is beyond me.
>
> Now if your sport is offroad then some small percentage of them would be applicable to that.  OTOH the average Midget would probably do as well offroad as 90% of the SUV's sold.
>
>
>   
>> Fishing/Angling, shooting, archery - all sports where you might need a  
>> utility vehicle?:
>>
>> Sports,  Utility, Vehicle.
>>     
>>> Nothing sporty about any of  them
>>>       
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sat Jun 19 16:04:45 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C1CED1C.6010607@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <20100619220446.3DODH.4462.root@cdptpa-web22-z02>

We have a Jeep Grand Cherokee and a Midget, and my daily driver which is the CTS-V.

My wife drives the Jeep and only does things like haul furniture, groceries, etc.  BUT we do take it offroad in Utah and Colorado.  We bought it specifically to take offroad, not because we think it will make us look cool while driving around.  I do not like it as a daily driver at all, which is why I have something different as a daily driver.

And I dare say that 98% of the people that own SUV's do not take them any farther offroad than the average Midget owner takes his Midget.


 
> As the owner of both an SUV (Jeep Cherokee) and a Midget, I can assure 
> you that the Midget will not do well off road in my area. I can take the 
> dogs out in the desert for a good run with no danger of them getting hit 
> by a car on the road or straying onto private property and getting shot 
> by a rancher. Then I can load my jon boat on top, put my fishing and 
> camping gear and the boat motor in the back and head for the lake. Thus, 
> the sport aspect is covered.
> 
> I can drive it out in the field, attaching a cable to the hitch and 
> spend the day straightening fence posts and using the Jeep to hold them 
> straight while I pour cement in the gaps, then go to the farm store and 
> load up a bale of hay, a few bags of feed, and some fence posts. This 
> covers the utility aspect.
> 
> Later I can drive to work in air conditioned comfort, knowing I can 
> easily drive around any trains that are frogging the entrance to the 
> yard by accessing frontage roads that come standard with pot holes deep 
> enough to bury a locomotive.
> 
> For sheer pleasure, I drive the Midget on the twistiest roads I can 
> find, taking 30 MPH corners at 70+. That is what a true sports car was 
> designed for.
> 
> Kate
> 
> bjshov8 at tx.rr.com wrote:
> > I think the idea is that it is a UTILITY (read "truck") vehicle that carries your sports equipment.  I just have an aversion to driving a TRUCK every day, but some people don't mind.  Why they think it is cool to drive a vehicle that is uncomfortable, inefficient and handles poorly is beyond me.
> >
> > Now if your sport is offroad then some small percentage of them would be applicable to that.  OTOH the average Midget would probably do as well offroad as 90% of the SUV's sold.

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 19 17:22:38 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:22:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter
Message-ID: <AANLkTimqcGZtPhA3KbMkGo6m-hqahhGCwJ1vJaRA5Vu7@mail.gmail.com>

Just to mention. .  I went with a gear redux starter from (as I recall)
Peirce Automotive in Gilroy about 5 years ago and have never had a problem
with it.  This was another headache removed. .  along with my OER (as a DCOE
45) that replaced my SU's. .  from the same.

Kirk
59 1275

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Jun 19 18:31:12 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:31:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <20100619220446.3DODH.4462.root@cdptpa-web22-z02>
References: <20100619220446.3DODH.4462.root@cdptpa-web22-z02>
Message-ID: <4F595524022B43AF84D396775416667C@Home>

> And I dare say that 98% of the people that own SUV's do not take them any 
> farther off-road than the average Midget owner takes his Midget.

My Midget, Rusty Ripoff, had clearly been offroad.  Part of the frame was 
bent downward, which could only be from pulling it off a tree limb stuck 
through.  There were other significant bashings under there that confirmed 
this diagnosis.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Sat Jun 19 18:48:40 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:48:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <20100619220446.3DODH.4462.root@cdptpa-web22-z02>
References: <20100619220446.3DODH.4462.root@cdptpa-web22-z02>
Message-ID: <4C1D6568.20500@cox.net>

There's nothing intrinsically wrong w/ SUVs -- until people went all 
Freudian with the size. We've got a 2001 Xterra. We liked the looks, it 
would fit the bari sax and the telescope, and it was an SUV for people 
who actually used them for sports. Mostly, it carries astronomy, SCUBA, 
and surf gear (sometimes all three!).

It goes off-road avery so often, but not often enough to justify 4WD, 
so, we got the 2WD version. That said, we can take it pretty much 
anywhere we've wanted to go, with or without a road.

I'm sure there's a certain amount of self-selection, but most of the 
people I know who own an SUV, use it for either cargo, or off-road.

I used the Xterra for my commute vehicle because I couldn't bend my 
injured knee far enough to get into the Miata with the top down. 
Fortunately, that's now been fixed, but my wife has the longer commute 
so I don't get to drive the Miata as much.

On 6/19/2010 3:04 PM, bjshov8 at tx.rr.com wrote:
> We have a Jeep Grand Cherokee and a Midget, and my daily driver which is the CTS-V.
>
> My wife drives the Jeep and only does things like haul furniture, groceries, etc.  BUT we do take it offroad in Utah and Colorado.  We bought it specifically to take offroad, not because we think it will make us look cool while driving around.  I do not like it as a daily driver at all, which is why I have something different as a daily driver.
>
> And I dare say that 98% of the people that own SUV's do not take them any farther offroad than the average Midget owner takes his Midget.

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sat Jun 19 21:19:06 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:19:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C1D6568.20500@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20100620031906.ITKQD.13332.root@cdptpa-web25-z02>

I've owned 1 minivan and one SUV.  We bought the SUV specifically for its offroad capabilities, and we have used them.  We have been places that required 4WD low range.  Before that I had the minivan, and I took it camping lots of places with challenging roads.  The minivan had more room inside, was more comfortable, and got much better fuel mileage than the SUV.  My contention is that most people that drive SUV's would be better off with a minivan.  From your description of how you use your SUV, you didn't do anything with it that I didn't do with my minivan.

This may be somewhat regional but in my area almost nobody takes their SUV's even off of paved roads.  I understand that in other parts of the country there are more people that take them offroad, or at least drive snow and mud roads to where they live.

Of course we have a lot of people that drive pickups and never carry anything more than an ice chest in the back.


 
> There's nothing intrinsically wrong w/ SUVs -- until people went all 
> Freudian with the size. We've got a 2001 Xterra. We liked the looks, it 
> would fit the bari sax and the telescope, and it was an SUV for people 
> who actually used them for sports. Mostly, it carries astronomy, SCUBA, 
> and surf gear (sometimes all three!).
> 
> It goes off-road avery so often, but not often enough to justify 4WD, 
> so, we got the 2WD version. That said, we can take it pretty much 
> anywhere we've wanted to go, with or without a road.
> 
> I'm sure there's a certain amount of self-selection, but most of the 
> people I know who own an SUV, use it for either cargo, or off-road.

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sat Jun 19 21:19:00 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:19:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <4C1D6568.20500@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20100620031900.DX2FS.13330.root@cdptpa-web25-z02>

I've owned 1 minivan and one SUV.  We bought the SUV specifically for its offroad capabilities, and we have used them.  We have been places that required 4WD low range.  Before that I had the minivan, and I took it camping lots of places with challenging roads.  The minivan had more room inside, was more comfortable, and got much better fuel mileage than the SUV.  My contention is that most people that drive SUV's would be better off with a minivan.  From your description of how you use your SUV, you didn't do anything with it that I didn't do with my minivan.

This may be somewhat regional but in my area almost nobody takes their SUV's even off of paved roads.  I understand that in other parts of the country there are more people that take them offroad, or at least drive snow and mud roads to where they live.

Of course we have a lot of people that drive pickups and never carry anything more than an ice chest in the back.


 
> There's nothing intrinsically wrong w/ SUVs -- until people went all 
> Freudian with the size. We've got a 2001 Xterra. We liked the looks, it 
> would fit the bari sax and the telescope, and it was an SUV for people 
> who actually used them for sports. Mostly, it carries astronomy, SCUBA, 
> and surf gear (sometimes all three!).
> 
> It goes off-road avery so often, but not often enough to justify 4WD, 
> so, we got the 2WD version. That said, we can take it pretty much 
> anywhere we've wanted to go, with or without a road.
> 
> I'm sure there's a certain amount of self-selection, but most of the 
> people I know who own an SUV, use it for either cargo, or off-road.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Jun 20 06:37:25 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:37:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W4883B8806D7871A72641D3B7DF0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>,
	<C4C37F66FA96426F89FEF2BFE4FD4D49@user8634b3d69b>
	<SNT124-W4883B8806D7871A72641D3B7DF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8A77C7D9-32EA-444D-87E0-1630A145FF14@phillymgclub.com>

Can't see it. Requires a facebook ripoff, errr I mean account.

I no have one, nor will I ever.

Larry

On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Mike Eldred wrote:

>
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2016356&id=1007316156&saved#!/photo.php
> ?pid=31252405&id=1007316156

--

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never
actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun 20 06:52:44 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 08:52:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British Engine
In-Reply-To: <20100620031900.DX2FS.13330.root@cdptpa-web25-z02>
References: <4C1D6568.20500@cox.net>
	<20100620031900.DX2FS.13330.root@cdptpa-web25-z02>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil9AtaZI06AzaIpUmDa_soeVg_FX4tnwAr-ubIU@mail.gmail.com>

My 94 Saturn SW2 went off road at the supermarket last year got hung up on
the cement curb for small trees. She hasn't been the same since and I am
starting to suspect a bent structure. My junkyard mechanic can't figure out
exactaly what is making the noise in that area when I turn the wheel but
suggests I replace the front end parts as we replaced the struts & many
bushings. I've had her since new still love every mile on her (near 300K)
and still do not want to replace her due to reliabilty #1, comfort #2, and
loyalty #3. BTW I can fill it up with loads of crap as she works like a
little pickup and I stopped counting how many times I moved friends &
relatives : ) Although I do wish I never ran up that cement curb, I wonder
if she could be converted into  a 4x4?
Lin

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:19 PM, <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

> I've owned 1 minivan and one SUV.  We bought the SUV specifically for its
> offroad capabilities, and we have used them.  We have been places that
> required 4WD low range.  Before that I had the minivan, and I took it
> camping lots of places with challenging roads.  The minivan had more room
> inside, was more comfortable, and got much better fuel mileage than the SUV.
>  My contention is that most people that drive SUV's would be better off with
> a minivan.  From your description of how you use your SUV, you didn't do
> anything with it that I didn't do with my minivan.
>
> This may be somewhat regional but in my area almost nobody takes their
> SUV's even off of paved roads.  I understand that in other parts of the
> country there are more people that take them offroad, or at least drive snow
> and mud roads to where they live.
>
> Of course we have a lot of people that drive pickups and never carry
> anything more than an ice chest in the back.
>
>
>
> > There's nothing intrinsically wrong w/ SUVs -- until people went all
> > Freudian with the size. We've got a 2001 Xterra. We liked the looks, it
> > would fit the bari sax and the telescope, and it was an SUV for people
> > who actually used them for sports. Mostly, it carries astronomy, SCUBA,
> > and surf gear (sometimes all three!).
> >
> > It goes off-road avery so often, but not often enough to justify 4WD,
> > so, we got the 2WD version. That said, we can take it pretty much
> > anywhere we've wanted to go, with or without a road.
> >
> > I'm sure there's a certain amount of self-selection, but most of the
> > people I know who own an SUV, use it for either cargo, or off-road.
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Sun Jun 20 09:49:24 2010
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 11:49:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [mgs] The tale of the crunchy clutch
In-Reply-To: <8A77C7D9-32EA-444D-87E0-1630A145FF14@phillymgclub.com>
References: <SNT124-W96625A78ACC4495A19B44B7DC0@phx.gbl>,
	<C4C37F66FA96426F89FEF2BFE4FD4D49@user8634b3d69b>
	<SNT124-W4883B8806D7871A72641D3B7DF0@phx.gbl>
	<8A77C7D9-32EA-444D-87E0-1630A145FF14@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <49D641C0-02A6-4515-9CC8-9920843F97A0@phillymgclub.com>

Well that was like delayed, and ended up being totally unnecessary since Mike
reposted to an open page.

Larry

On Jun 20, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Larry Macy wrote:

> Can't see it. Requires a facebook ripoff, errr I mean account.
>
> I no have one, nor will I ever.
>
> Larry
>
> On Jun 17, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Mike Eldred wrote:
>
>>
>
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2016356&id=1007316156&saved#!/photo.php
>> ?pid=31252405&id=1007316156
>
> --
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Secretary
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
>
>
> "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never
> actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

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lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Secretary
Philadelphia MG Club

The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity.

Dorothy Parker

From peter at nosimport.com  Sun Jun 20 12:26:25 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:26:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] news from the upper Midwest
Message-ID: <201006201126345.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Mower's fixed and in use.

Soave's racecar is running great, and being driven even better. (by him)

HAPPY FATHER'S DAY  !

	(if you're not a father, today's a good day to start tryin')



	Peter C

From conen at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 20 16:26:42 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:26:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
Message-ID: <74257.35040.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per bjshov8...
>>Of course we have a lot of people that drive pickups and never carry anything more than an ice chest in the back.

  That would be my bro-in-law.  Bought one of those full-size Ford F150s with 4 doors and the super-short bed.  Last I heard he'd never put anything nastier in the bed than the family's bowling balls (in bowling bags!).  Might scratch it. ;-)  They live in a Virginia coastal town north of Hampton.  There IS no "off" road around there. :-) :-) :-)

 Ed in NC  (where my '91 Toyota 4-cyl, 4x4 pickup gets filled up with gourds, hay, lumber, bags of cement, fence posts, buckets of "aged" horse manure, rocks and such like every once in a while.  I am also rarely off-road though.)
 e

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jun 20 16:27:46 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:27:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] news from the upper Midwest
In-Reply-To: <201006201126345.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <201006201126345.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <0985A19C66644A35B0713CDC0F2ADFD2@HomePC>

Ron took 2nd in the Small Bore Enduro.  Only gave up about a second per lap 
to what the announcer called  Dr. J.'s "nuclear-reactor-powered" Sprite. 
Damn good show!

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 1:26 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] news from the upper Midwest

Mower's fixed and in use.

Soave's racecar is running great, and being driven even better. (by him)

HAPPY FATHER'S DAY  !

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From Joea at wgegroup.com  Sun Jun 20 18:50:07 2010
From: Joea at wgegroup.com (Joe Armour)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:50:07 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 37, Issue 33
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1276970402.18645.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.17.1276970402.18645.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D0303CF7@server.wgegroup.com>

Sebring Sprites
The 1965 car was the first built of this version and the history is well
listed in Bill Emersions 'THE HEALEY BOOK'

The two Texas cars are a very interesting story. Both the open roadster
and coupe are genuine Donald Healey Moter Company built cars BUT there
were never raced by the Healey Company as the BMC contract and therefore
funding of the race program was terminated.
The roadster was already complete in 1968 for the Targa Florio but never
entered.
The coupe was not completed until after the last official Healey Company
enties at Sebring 1968 with a BRG car and revised headlight location and
the 1967 Sebring and LeMans car that was upgraded and fitted with Lucas
fuel injection and Weslake cross flow head and rear spoiler for the last
official entry, LeMans in 1968.
The coupe was then completed and along with the roadster sold to the
East Coast Distributor.
The cars were then sold and raced in the USA only by the Ring Free Oil /
Baker Team


Joe Armour


------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:11:12 -0400
From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1965 SEBRING SPRITE back up on ebay...
To: spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w28FEAC91F7A185534C1463C2C10 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

He says that it was sent back to England for the restoration,

but I think I have photos of it undergoing restoration in Texas.
I'll have to dig them out, I think I saved them on one of my
computers...


In 2005 I believe this car and a similar Sebring roadster were

for sale on race-cars.com, as a pair for IIRC  $130K in 2005, didn't
sell
then.
Not positive that's its this car or #62 from that year.
This car became part of the Baker Racing stable (who drove it in 65 to a
win),
Raced in Sebring in 1969 and 1970 as part of the Baker Racing, MacMillan
Ring
Free Oil all
women's race team,(of which my Aunt was an alternate driver in 1970),
who won
their class.
Wish I could contact Mr Baker. Love to get more info on the cars.

Still LOVE to have this one, come on Lotto!!


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!





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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 20 19:02:32 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] news from the upper Midwest
In-Reply-To: <0985A19C66644A35B0713CDC0F2ADFD2@HomePC>
Message-ID: <546005.92975.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Everyone's help and camaraderie was phenomenal - Peter and Jane, Larry, Dave
Woerpel, Chris Manuel, Reid, Bruce, Don and probably a few others I forgot to
introduce to my new boss ;-). Tutone and his band's guests brother Bob and
Bill Dalton sounded great (who was the guy with he harmonica? He sounded great
too,)

The car was dialed in - we did not miss a single lap all weekend, and
that includes noon touring! Lynette even did a few laps with me in White Trash
today. I ended up 3rd in both the Sprint and Feature Races (Jahimiak won the
feature, Gurolnik (aka Dreadful) won the Sprint.) The field was 30 or so cars
- I was happy.

Again, I can't thank you guys enough. The place was eerily
empty in a lot of spots and we seriously missed many Team Thicko people and
cars, but we had a good 20 people in our paddock on Saturday during the day.
One of the better race weekends after a relatively inauspicious beginning.
Ron

--- On Sun, 6/20/10, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] news
from the upper Midwest
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Peter
Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
> Date: Sunday, June 20, 2010, 5:27 PM
> Ron
took 2nd in the Small Bore
> Enduro.  Only gave up about a second per lap 
>
to what the announcer called  Dr. J.'s
> "nuclear-reactor-powered" Sprite. 
>
Damn good show!
> 
> LAD
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 20 19:19:34 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:19:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <74257.35040.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <74257.35040.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C1EBE26.1060703@comcast.net>

On 6/20/2010 6:26 PM, Edmund Conen wrote:
> per bjshov8...
>>> Of course we have a lot of people that drive pickups and never carry anything more than an ice chest in the back.
>
>    That would be my bro-in-law.  Bought one of those full-size Ford F150s with 4 doors and the super-short bed.

And THIS is the reason I could not buy a REAL pickup truck off the lot.
I had to order one and it just came in, I pick it up tomorrow.
But a 2 door, 4x8' bed is no longer "Standard".
A standard pickup today has 4 doors and a tiny bed, sort of like my 
Jaguar, 4 doors and a trunk, but with the truck you have to pay extra 
for a plastic cover so now you have a butt ugly pickup truck with a 
cheap plastic cover over the cargo space.
But you also get more bells and whistles in the new foo-foo trucks than 
any Cadillac, Lincoln, or Benz.
I am a carpenter by trade, I need a R E A L pickup truck 5 days a week.
But all those woosey asses ruined the pick up truck by wanting crap that 
should be on fancy cars.
Oh I looked at the foo foo trucks but at 50 to 60 thousand dollars for a 
truck, I just could not believe it.
But the chrome trimmed cup holders sure would have looked nice until I 
bought my first coffee (on the way home from the dealer) and it spilled 
on those chrome trim rings.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From conen at bellsouth.net  Sun Jun 20 19:25:08 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:25:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
Message-ID: <159010.98689.qm@web180210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per FrankC...
>>But a 2 door, 4x8' bed is no longer "Standard".

I can remember when the U.S. manufacturers were first boasting that you could now lay a 4'x8' sheet of plywood flat between the wheelwells AND close the tailgate!  :-)

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun Jun 20 19:30:13 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:30:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
Message-ID: <2a9401cb10e1$4b7cd7b0$0168010a@mail2world.com>

Much like I use my 200 Ranger, for the trips to the home center for
lumber, drywall, mulch, etc. The 4wd is nice in the snow around here.

Though I'd much rather have something like a modern El Camino that has
the bed but would handle better.

-=Chris
Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Edmund Conen [conen at bellsouth.net]
>Sent: 6/20/2010 6:26:42 PM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
>

>
> Ed in NC (where my '91 Toyota 4-cyl, 4x4 pickup gets filled up with
gourds,
>hay, lumber, bags of cement, fence posts, buckets of "aged" horse
manure, rocks
>and such like every once in a while. I am also rarely off-road though.)
> e
>_______________________________________________

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Jun 20 19:42:11 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:42:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fender Guitar - No LBC
Message-ID: <AANLkTinXaRELJwuSM5BmxjNhDcBUnTw5BN9qK_xMsgbP@mail.gmail.com>

*http://tinyurl.com/2fvc9tz*

For you guitar guys on the list.  Seems cheap to me, even if it is made in
Indonesia.

From irish_32_ at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 20 19:49:04 2010
From: irish_32_ at hotmail.com (Nathan Causey)
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 18:49:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Parts
Message-ID: <COL109-W35A4E0DBEC6154B79600B3A7C30@phx.gbl>

Hello all there in midget land,

just thought I might check on here to see if anyone is interested in any
midget parts.  they are from my 70 midget

Two seats- okay condition, leather, a couple tears in the seat portion of
them.  Free if you live in the seattle area

3.9 Differential- from a donor car, in good shape, removed from the axle.  100
bucks or whatever,

steering wheel, stock free

rotors, king pins, 'A' arms and some other miscellaneous suspension parts-
for these parts let me know what you are looking for and flip me a few dollars
and they are yours,  If you need them shipped, cover shipping

Original smiths gauges,  I believe they all work, let me know which one or
ones you are interested in

Original generator- worked when removed

call or email if you are interested,

I live just south of Seattle

Nathan
206-295-7283
For the listers I am not really interested in making any real money just
thought I would share the wealth and put a dollar or two in my mad money fund
I have a few boxes of parts and am trying to clean out the





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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 21 06:27:30 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 05:27:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire Wheel Calipers
Message-ID: <273339.63519.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dean had asked about the relief on the calipers that you must have for a wire wheel conversion. These pics clearly show the clearance for the rotor mounting flange on the hub. I have a number of calipers but couldn't locate a casting without this relief.
John
Fogelsville, PA
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastvee/4720246591/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastvee/4720896388/

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jun 21 06:41:33 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 05:41:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
Message-ID: <3f2601cb113f$1452e5a0$0168010a@mail2world.com>

Frank,
 
This may be a dumb question, but why didn't you keep the old truck?


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net]
Sent: 6/20/2010 9:20:34 PM
To: conen at bellsouth.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not) 

On 6/20/2010 6:26 PM, Edmund Conen wrote: 
> per bjshov8... 
>>> Of course we have a lot of people that drive pickups and never carry
anything more than an ice chest in the back. 
> 
> That would be my bro-in-law. Bought one of those full-size Ford F150s
with 4 doors and the super-short bed. 

And THIS is the reason I could not buy a REAL pickup truck off the lot. 
I had to order one and it just came in, I pick it up tomorrow. 
But a 2 door, 4x8' bed is no longer "Standard". 
A standard pickup today has 4 doors and a tiny bed, sort of like my 
Jaguar, 4 doors and a trunk, but with the truck you have to pay extra 
for a plastic cover so now you have a butt ugly pickup truck with a 
cheap plastic cover over the cargo space. 
But you also get more bells and whistles in the new foo-foo trucks than 
any Cadillac, Lincoln, or Benz. 
I am a carpenter by trade, I need a R E A L pickup truck 5 days a week. 
But all those woosey asses ruined the pick up truck by wanting crap that
should be on fancy cars. 
Oh I looked at the foo foo trucks but at 50 to 60 thousand dollars for a
truck, I just could not believe it. 
But the chrome trimmed cup holders sure would have looked nice until I 
bought my first coffee (on the way home from the dealer) and it spilled 
on those chrome trim rings. 

-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
Lots of Sprites 
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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 06:42:18 2010
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 07:42:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fender Guitar - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinXaRELJwuSM5BmxjNhDcBUnTw5BN9qK_xMsgbP@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinXaRELJwuSM5BmxjNhDcBUnTw5BN9qK_xMsgbP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTildoinQCNBOkYsnDyUU1FCFW7fkbJV7sX2MD7Yp@mail.gmail.com>

These foreign-made "Fenders" seem to be a real craps shoot.  Some of
them are fine (especially the ones made in the last 5 years or so).
Some of them are junk.  We bought one for my wife two years ago from a
local music store.  To make sure we got a good one, we asked if we
could open the box and inspect the specific one that we were buying.
The store was VERY nice about this and even had their resident guitar
repair guy check it over and adjust the pickups for us for free.  Not
bad considering we were buying $200 package.  The only real issue we
had was the jack amp cord came loose.  Easy fix.  A friend of ours
bought the same package from Wal-Mart for thier son.  They got it for
$20 cheaper, but have had a lot of issues.  They have already spent
that $20 and more getting it fixed.

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 8:42 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com
<rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> *http://tinyurl.com/2fvc9tz*
>
> For you guitar guys on the list.  Seems cheap to me, even if it is made in
> Indonesia.
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From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 21 08:00:18 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:00:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire Wheel Calipers
In-Reply-To: <273339.63519.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <273339.63519.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201006210700337.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

John,
         I went though 40 or so just now, and ALL of them have the 
relief as pictured.
         Casting numbers as follows:  LH caliper indirect half (outer 
w/o hose connection) 3243-220 Direct 3243-222
                         RH indirect 3243-331   direct 3243-223

         I've never seen a caliper without it. If you go to an old 
BMC parts catalog, there was a supercession at the beginning of disc 
brake applications. Perhaps that was the difference. It would 
probably be harder to find those early ones than not.

Peter C
---------------
At 07:27 AM 6/21/2010, fastvee wrote:
>Dean had asked about the relief on the calipers that you must have 
>for a wire wheel conversion. These pics clearly show the clearance 
>for the rotor mounting flange on the hub. I have a number of 
>calipers but couldn't locate a casting without this relief.
>John
>Fogelsville, PA
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastvee/4720246591/
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastvee/4720896388/

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 10:05:51 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:05:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Parts
In-Reply-To: <COL109-W35A4E0DBEC6154B79600B3A7C30@phx.gbl>
References: <COL109-W35A4E0DBEC6154B79600B3A7C30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinWbdPwUMJ0i-7h4p1L7qB0pKEFcZv44-LEDF7F@mail.gmail.com>

Ebay that 3.9 and you'll get a lot more than $100.

From abcoz at hky.com  Mon Jun 21 11:35:52 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:35:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <4C1EBE26.1060703@comcast.net>
References: <74257.35040.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4C1EBE26.1060703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5DD01909AACA4048B8B8CC84159957B2@OwnerPC>

A couple of years ago, I looked into buying a new pick-up truck to replace 
my faithful '79 Chevy (1/2 ton w/8' bed & heavy springs).  I'm getting to 
the point where I will need to do some major sheet metal (rust) repair and I 
thought maybe it was time.  Well, the more I looked at the new stuff, the 
more I realized how attached I am to my old Chevy and what a great old truck 
it is.  We've the original owners (it was purchased to be our farm truck) 
and it's been virtually trouble-free for the past 31 years and 91,000 miles. 
The only thing I dislike about it is that it's an automatic instead of 
having a "truck" four speed.  But even the automatic is nice and the 350 
4bbl engine sure makes it nice for towing a car trailer.
I guess the only way I'll ever replace it is by restoring it (oh, 
crap.....ANOTHER bloody project), which isn't in the cards right now.  Glad 
I'm not in a position where business dictates a new truck every few years.
Frank, you could always find an older one and restore it for your next work 
truck.  That's the only way you're ever going to get a "real" truck, that 
will hold up well and not cost you an arm & a leg for all of the yuppie 
engineering options that the manufacturers are imposing on us who use a 
truck as a TRUCK.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Edmund Conen" <conen at bellsouth.net>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2010 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)


> On 6/20/2010 6:26 PM, Edmund Conen wrote:
>> per bjshov8...
>>>> Of course we have a lot of people that drive pickups and never carry 
>>>> anything more than an ice chest in the back.
>>
>>    That would be my bro-in-law.  Bought one of those full-size Ford F150s 
>> with 4 doors and the super-short bed.
>
> And THIS is the reason I could not buy a REAL pickup truck off the lot.
> I had to order one and it just came in, I pick it up tomorrow.
> But a 2 door, 4x8' bed is no longer "Standard".
> A standard pickup today has 4 doors and a tiny bed, sort of like my 
> Jaguar, 4 doors and a trunk, but with the truck you have to pay extra for 
> a plastic cover so now you have a butt ugly pickup truck with a cheap 
> plastic cover over the cargo space.
> But you also get more bells and whistles in the new foo-foo trucks than 
> any Cadillac, Lincoln, or Benz.
> I am a carpenter by trade, I need a R E A L pickup truck 5 days a week.
> But all those woosey asses ruined the pick up truck by wanting crap that 
> should be on fancy cars.
> Oh I looked at the foo foo trucks but at 50 to 60 thousand dollars for a 
> truck, I just could not believe it.
> But the chrome trimmed cup holders sure would have looked nice until I 
> bought my first coffee (on the way home from the dealer) and it spilled on 
> those chrome trim rings.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites

From conen at bellsouth.net  Mon Jun 21 13:30:09 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:30:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
Message-ID: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

I've thought for some now that IF i was to need a truck for my business (I do not have a business.) I would seriously consider buying a good, semi-restored classic truck, a model with decent parts availability, and just keep fixing it forever.  SEMI-restored should make it noticeably cheaper to buy than a new truck, noticeably cheaper and easier to repair, and the right classic would get you noticed too ('free' advertising ;-)).

With my new part-time job delivering parts to local mechanics for an auto parts chain, I keep thinking of asking the Land Rover shop if they ever get early LRs in for service. :-)
  Ed in NC

From rdgard at cox.net  Mon Jun 21 13:47:14 2010
From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:47:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chebby truck
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1277143203.23155.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15.1277143203.23155.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <61659092819F4F468AD72B732E7AAE44@internetpc>

Bud,

I bought a 79 1/2 ton Chebby van new in 79 and finally replaced the engine
at 390,000 miles.  It still was running quite good, but was blowing freeze
plugs.  Lost 6 of them, One cost me 800 and 13 hours on the LA freeway.
Still had the ones behind the flywheel had not gone out yet.  Could not
trust it so I got a GM crate motor.  Lost the tranny and sold the van at
500,000 plus miles.  They are the best!

Keep it!  I assume it is not a show truck, but a work truck, so, some sheet
metal, some bondo, some primer and you are good to go for 200,000 more
miles.

Cheers,

Bob in San Diego

Robert D. Gardner
 
Gardner Productions LLC
Film and Video Production since 1978
619-460-1000
www.gardnerproductions.com

- 
A couple of years ago, I looked into buying a new pick-up truck to replace
my faithful '79 Chevy (1/2 ton w/8' bed & heavy springs).  I'm getting to
the point where I will need to do some major sheet metal (rust) repair and I
thought maybe it was time.  Well, the more I looked at the new stuff, the
more I realized how attached I am to my old Chevy and what a great old truck
it is.  We've the original owners (it was purchased to be our farm truck)
and it's been virtually trouble-free for the past 31 years and 91,000 miles.

The only thing I dislike about it is that it's an automatic instead of
having a "truck" four speed.  But even the automatic is nice and the 350
4bbl engine sure makes it nice for towing a car trailer.
I guess the only way I'll ever replace it is by restoring it (oh,
crap.....ANOTHER bloody project), which isn't in the cards right now.  Glad
I'm not in a position where business dictates a new truck every few years.
Frank, you could always find an older one and restore it for your next work
truck.  That's the only way you're ever going to get a "real" truck, that
will hold up well and not cost you an arm & a leg for all of the yuppie
engineering options that the manufacturers are imposing on us who use a
truck as a TRUCK.
Bud Osbourne
 ************************************

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Jun 21 15:08:30 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:08:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20100621210831.9H5MZ.24174.root@cdptpa-web17-z02>

Suitable work trucks are still available, although I don't know what you have to do to get one.

We had some work done on our house a couple of years ago and our carpenter had a fairly new Ford pickup.  It was white, very plain, I don't think it even had carpet.

I visit big construction sites occasionally and it seems that those guys all have plain new pickup trucks.  Maybe they buy them as fleets.

A family that we know is in the ranching business.  They all drive very plain 3/4 ton trucks.  They buy them without beds and put their own beds on them.



> I've thought for some now that IF i was to need a truck for my business (I do not have a business.) I would seriously consider buying a good, semi-restored classic truck, a model with decent parts availability, and just keep fixing it forever.  SEMI-restored should make it noticeably cheaper to buy than a new truck, noticeably cheaper and easier to repair, and the right classic would get you noticed too ('free' advertising ;-)).

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Jun 21 15:14:52 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:14:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C1FD64C.4020003@frontiernet.net>

I came real close to buying a Landy Defender before I found my Comanche. 
I missed it by about an hour. I am glad that I continued my search, as I 
found one equipped essentially as I wanted and in decent shape. He also 
has low mileage for his vintage, and the shop I use for repairs I am 
unable or unwilling to do myself has maintained it since new. After 
straightening out a few minor dings and applying a new coat of non water 
based paint, he should look as new.

The old Rambler inline six is about as bomb proof as an engine can be, 
and relatively simple for owner repair, should any ever be needed. My 
old Cherokee had over 400,000 trouble free miles, my newer one has 
200,000. Duece, the Comanche, has just over 100,000, so I am looking 
forward to a long time with him. The engine is strong enough to pull my 
horse trailer, although I wouldn't ask it to go over the Rockies. With 
the 6" lift, he will climb anything I ask him to, and still be low 
enough to not have constant U joint problems. The 5 speed transmission 
is strong and reliable, but so is the automatic that is paired with the 
4.0 engine. I really didn't care if it had A/C, but I am glad that he 
does. The new CD player is nice on long rides. I will be grabbing 
opening wing windows with all the attachments as soon as I can find 
them. Cherokee front doors seem to leave the wrecking yards rather 
quickly around here, and I don't get to Reno often enough. The fact that 
Jeep only built the Comanche for 5 years probably means that he will 
become a collector someday.  I know that I looked as far east as Ohio 
when trying to find a good one.

I do use him as a truck, hauling animal feed, fence posts, lumber, and 
whatever else won't fit in the car. For long lumber, I can always use 
the big truck with the lumber rack on top.

Kate
>
> With my new part-time job delivering parts to local mechanics for an auto parts chain, I keep thinking of asking the Land Rover shop if they ever get early LRs in for service. :-)
>   Ed in NC
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun 21 15:43:40 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:43:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <3f2601cb113f$1452e5a0$0168010a@mail2world.com>
References: <3f2601cb113f$1452e5a0$0168010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <4C1FDD0C.8000901@comcast.net>

On 6/21/2010 8:41 AM, Chris King wrote:
> Frank,
> This may be a dumb question, but why didn't you keep the old truck?

I need the truck every day, the old truck will be needing stuff, lots of 
stuff done to it very soon. Everything is fine now but it is all original.
I did replace the shocks, brakes, tires, and battery, routine stuff but 
when it starts needing big bucks in repairs and I loose a day or 2 of 
work because the truck is down, that hurts double.
Besides, I can write it off as a business expense and I can either pay 
Obama or ride around in a new truck.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 21 17:18:36 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:18:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <4C1EBE26.1060703@comcast.net>
References: <74257.35040.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<4C1EBE26.1060703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w4211220F303B99433CF971C2C30@phx.gbl>

Didn't come with Hankook tires, did it?????
I've seen a few that did.



Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!


> And THIS is the reason I could not buy a REAL pickup truck off the lot.
> I had to order one and it just came in, I pick it up tomorrow.
> But a 2 door, 4x8' bed is no longer "Standard".
> A standard pickup today has 4 doors and a tiny bed, sort of like my
>
> But the chrome trimmed cup holders sure would have looked nice until I
> bought my first coffee (on the way home from the dealer) and it spilled
> on those chrome trim rings.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 21 18:28:38 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:28:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprites
In-Reply-To: <015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D0303CF7@server.wgegroup.com>
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Thanks for that info Joe, great information.

Those are the two cars I have photos of somewhere undergoing restoration.
Doing a little digging, the Ebay car says it was at 1969 Sebring 12 hours,
I haven't been to confirm that, as I can't find photos of the 69 cars,
but it was not the car that the
Baker Racing, MacMillan Ring Free Oil all
women's race team drove in 1970.
That  was car HAN9R-238. I thought they may be different cars as the body work
is different.
The nose is different, seen here, partly because of the fuel injection.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1970/Sebring-1970-03-21-073.jpg

I then found this site, showing the car restored,
http://www.apalachtimes.com/articles/sprite-8275-race-sebring.html
>From which I found:
http://www.thelasthealeys.com/
a web site that chronicles HAN9R-238 and the roadster-250

I now know which car I want when I win Lotto.
and I'm really kicking myself for not making it to Sebring this year!

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:50:07 +1000
> From: Joea at wgegroup.com
 CC: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au
>
>
> Sebring Sprites
> The 1965 car was the first built of this version and the history is well
> listed in Bill Emersions 'THE HEALEY BOOK'
>
> The two Texas cars are a very interesting story. Both the open roadster
> and coupe are genuine Donald Healey Moter Company built cars BUT there
> were never raced by the Healey Company as the BMC contract and therefore
> funding of the race program was terminated.
> The roadster was already complete in 1968 for the Targa Florio but never
> entered.
> The coupe was not completed until after the last official Healey Company
> enties at Sebring 1968 with a BRG car and revised headlight location and
> the 1967 Sebring and LeMans car that was upgraded and fitted with Lucas
> fuel injection and Weslake cross flow head and rear spoiler for the last
> official entry, LeMans in 1968.
> The coupe was then completed and along with the roadster sold to the
> East Coast Distributor.
> The cars were then sold and raced in the USA only by the Ring Free Oil /
> Baker Team
>
>
> Joe Armour
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:11:12 -0400
> From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1965 SEBRING SPRITE back up on ebay...
> To: spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Message-ID: <BAY145-w28FEAC91F7A185534C1463C2C10 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> He says that it was sent back to England for the restoration,
>
> but I think I have photos of it undergoing restoration in Texas.
> I'll have to dig them out, I think I saved them on one of my
> computers...
>
>
> In 2005 I believe this car and a similar Sebring roadster were
>
> for sale on race-cars.com, as a pair for IIRC  $130K in 2005, didn't
> sell then.
> Not positive that's its this car or #62 from that year.
> This car became part of the Baker Racing stable (who drove it in 65 to a
> win), Raced in Sebring in 1969 and 1970 as part of the Baker Racing,
MacMillan
> Ring Free Oil all women's race team,(of which my Aunt was an alternate
driver in 1970),
> who won their class.
> Wish I could contact Mr Baker. Love to get more info on the cars.
>
> Still LOVE to have this one, come on Lotto!!
>
>
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>
>
>
>

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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun 21 19:10:03 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:10:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C8455B7B.281E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  IF i was to need a truck for my business
A number of years ago, after 24 years of faithful service, I foolishly sold
my '53 F-100 panel.  I've been looking for it on Ebay and Craigslist ever
since. If I ever find it, I'll pull the 215 straight six and replace it with
a 300" straight six and an over-drive tranny.  I think that's about as
modern as a truck should get. In the meantime, I'll make due with the '66
Ranchero, but I don't think the V-8 will ever sound right to my ears.
BZ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 21 19:52:22 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 18:52:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Parts
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinWbdPwUMJ0i-7h4p1L7qB0pKEFcZv44-LEDF7F@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <179740.46054.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/21/10, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ebay that 3.9 and you'll get a lot
> more than $100.

In person, they change hands for $75 all the time.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 21 20:27:53 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:27:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire Wheel Calipers
In-Reply-To: <201006210700337.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <273339.63519.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201006210700337.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <94740316AA3D42EEA250A409A4A7BCB7@blackbox2>

Naturally I jacked up and pulled a wheel soon after seeing this post.

Knowing how the Creator does not want me to do this conversion
I was certain that I would be grinding cast iron at some point
in the near future.

Miraculously, I somehow have the reliefs (at least on the left front)

It's interesting because the guy I talked to at Westtown was
very adamant about having to grind reliefs into his calipers.
So I guess there must be some of the old style calipers out there.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:00 AM
To: fastvee; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wire Wheel Calipers

John,
         I went though 40 or so just now, and ALL of them have the 
relief as pictured.
         Casting numbers as follows:  LH caliper indirect half (outer 
w/o hose connection) 3243-220 Direct 3243-222
                         RH indirect 3243-331   direct 3243-223

         I've never seen a caliper without it. If you go to an old 
BMC parts catalog, there was a supercession at the beginning of disc 
brake applications. Perhaps that was the difference. It would 
probably be harder to find those early ones than not.

Peter C
---------------
At 07:27 AM 6/21/2010, fastvee wrote:
>Dean had asked about the relief on the calipers that you must have 
>for a wire wheel conversion. These pics clearly show the clearance 
>for the rotor mounting flange on the hub. I have a number of 
>calipers but couldn't locate a casting without this relief.
>John
>Fogelsville, PA
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jun 21 20:38:15 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:38:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprites
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w50D7A4C025024DAAE50186C2C40@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.17.1276970402.18645.spridgets@autox.team.net>,
	<015114DB45343740AF44EB5C628812D0303CF7@server.wgegroup.com>
	<BAY145-w50D7A4C025024DAAE50186C2C40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <B75C2E1E45B54F59968E778A30325F95@blackbox2>

I wonder how much power they made with the fuel injection and the
special head.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Sebring Sprites

Thanks for that info Joe, great information.

Those are the two cars I have photos of somewhere undergoing restoration.
Doing a little digging, the Ebay car says it was at 1969 Sebring 12 hours,
I haven't been to confirm that, as I can't find photos of the 69 cars,
but it was not the car that the
Baker Racing, MacMillan Ring Free Oil all
women's race team drove in 1970.
That  was car HAN9R-238. I thought they may be different cars as the body
work
is different.
The nose is different, seen here, partly because of the fuel injection.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1970/Sebring-1970-03-21-073.jpg

I then found this site, showing the car restored,
http://www.apalachtimes.com/articles/sprite-8275-race-sebring.html
>From which I found:
http://www.thelasthealeys.com/
a web site that chronicles HAN9R-238 and the roadster-250

I now know which car I want when I win Lotto.
and I'm really kicking myself for not making it to Sebring this year!

Brian S.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Jun 21 20:54:45 2010
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:54:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] trucks
In-Reply-To: <C8455B7B.281E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<C8455B7B.281E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <002a01cb11b6$475d5490$d617fdb0$@com>

I'm driving a 1970 GMC 2500 Custom Camper. It's a 3/4 ton truck, with a one
ton (8 lug wheel) rear axle from the factory. It has non assisted drum
brakes, and manual steering. It's a 3 speed Turbo hydramatic and 350 V8 with
factory 4 barrel. It had split rims on it originally. It has factory "west
coast" mirrors. It has aftermarket under dash AC cold enough to hang meat.

I paid $400 years ago. It needs rockers and cab corners, and minor repair in
the bed. What's nice is its straight, as it had a camper in it, was never
used as a work truck.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:10 PM
To: Edmund Conen; Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)

>  IF i was to need a truck for my business
A number of years ago, after 24 years of faithful service, I foolishly sold
my '53 F-100 panel.  I've been looking for it on Ebay and Craigslist ever
since. If I ever find it, I'll pull the 215 straight six and replace it with
a 300" straight six and an over-drive tranny.  I think that's about as
modern as a truck should get. In the meantime, I'll make due with the '66
Ranchero, but I don't think the V-8 will ever sound right to my ears.
BZ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun 21 21:01:01 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 23:01:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w4211220F303B99433CF971C2C30@phx.gbl>
References: <74257.35040.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<4C1EBE26.1060703@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w4211220F303B99433CF971C2C30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C20276D.10100@comcast.net>

On 6/21/2010 7:18 PM, brian S wrote:
> Didn't come with Hankook tires, did it?????
> I've seen a few that did.

Yes it did, and a tilt steering wheel, one more sign that all trucks are 
getting foo-foo these days.
Lots of things I never heard of as I read the owners manual.
But I can see that some trucks have more bells and whistles that I 
thought was imaginable.
Heated, cooled, seats with replaceable air filters!
What do you do, replace the seat filters after every fart?
Programmable keys where you can set the speed limit.
Voice activated cell phone thru the radio.
And I am only 1/2 way thru the book.
I wonder if a lovely girl jumps out of the dash when I whistle dixie ;)

No I don't have all that and I  don/t think I could even dream of all 
that/ My Jag has more bells and whistles than I can count, and I don't 
use any of them except the radio volume on the steering wheel.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Mon Jun 21 21:18:56 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:18:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <20100621210831.9H5MZ.24174.root@cdptpa-web17-z02>
References: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<20100621210831.9H5MZ.24174.root@cdptpa-web17-z02>
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 4:08 PM, <bjshov8 at tx.rr.com> wrote:

> Suitable work trucks are still available, although I don't know what you
> have to do to get one.
>
> We had some work done on our house a couple of years ago and our carpenter
> had a fairly new Ford pickup.  It was white, very plain, I don't think it
> even had carpet.
>
> I think the problem Frank is having with finding a "basic" truck is mostly
a matter of geography.  Around here if you want a basic truck you just stop
in and pick one out; in more heavily populated areas I would imagine having
to order or dealer trade/locate one is more common just because they sell
fewer of them in those regions.

Here in the corn and beans farmland of Illinois even the smallest rural Ford
and Chevy lots usually have at least a couple to choose from, in addition to
the gussied up city trucks.  I was just out by our local Ford dealer an hour
ago looking for the new Fiesta and they had four basic F-150's (white,
2-wheel drive, std cab, black grille, vinyl seats and flooring, etc) on
their front row and appeared to have more around back.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 21 22:27:04 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 21:27:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilBeXnu6Kk2_l9jiP5MQRv1Hbn4Xu4YhZoqQp9f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <350762.80860.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/21/10, J Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think the
problem Frank is having with finding a
> "basic" truck is mostly
> a matter of
geography.  Around here if you want a
> basic truck you just stop

I was going
to mention that, although I could not find a manual F150 when I got my truck
in 2002. I know a lot of people that have foo-foo trucks, but all of them use
them to haul or trailer something as well. If I were a rich man, I confess I
would love a big-ass diesel dually as a tow vehicle with cushy full crew cabin
for the famiglia.

Ron

From theshoe5 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 22 03:42:01 2010
From: theshoe5 at comcast.net (Alan)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 05:42:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <4C20276D.10100@comcast.net>
References: <74257.35040.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<4C1EBE26.1060703@comcast.net><BAY145-w4211220F303B99433CF971C2C30@phx.gbl>
	<4C20276D.10100@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <ACC4A551988E47EA8315081E8CC1D61F@AlanPC>

Frank,
The Transit Connect can find your hammer for you if you loose it. That's 
kinda cool.
Alan

> Heated, cooled, seats with replaceable air filters!
> What do you do, replace the seat filters after every fart?
> Programmable keys where you can set the speed limit.
> Voice activated cell phone thru the radio.
> And I am only 1/2 way thru the book.
> I wonder if a lovely girl jumps out of the dash when I whistle dixie ;)

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 22 03:46:37 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 02:46:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprites
In-Reply-To: <B75C2E1E45B54F59968E778A30325F95@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <311553.33332.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dean,

There's a power graph in Geoff Healey's "More Healeys" book.  The 1967 Weber
version peaked at 105 bhp at 7,000 rpm, the 1968 Lucas injection was good for
110 bhp at 7,000 rpm. 

Rick


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--- On Mon, 6/21/10, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprites
To: "'brian S'" <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>, joea at wgegroup.com, "'spridgets list'"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Cc: sebring at illawarra.hotkey.net.au
Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 10:38 PM

I wonder how much power they made with the fuel injection and the
special head.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Sebring Sprites

Thanks for that info Joe, great information.

Those are the two cars I have photos of somewhere undergoing restoration.
Doing a little digging, the Ebay car says it was at 1969 Sebring 12 hours,
I haven't been to confirm that, as I can't find photos of the 69 cars,
but it was not the car that the
Baker Racing, MacMillan Ring Free Oil all
women's race team drove in 1970.
That  was car HAN9R-238. I thought they may be different cars as the body
work
is different.
The nose is different, seen here, partly because of the fuel injection.
http://www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1970/Sebring-1970-03-21-073.jpg

I then found this site, showing the car restored,
http://www.apalachtimes.com/articles/sprite-8275-race-sebring.html
>From which I found:
http://www.thelasthealeys.com/
a web site that chronicles HAN9R-238 and the roadster-250

I now know which car I want when I win Lotto.
and I'm really kicking myself for not making it to Sebring this year!

Brian S.
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From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jun 22 07:04:12 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:04:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Chebby truck
In-Reply-To: <61659092819F4F468AD72B732E7AAE44@internetpc>
References: <mailman.15.1277143203.23155.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<61659092819F4F468AD72B732E7AAE44@internetpc>
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Don't worry, Bob.  That old truck isn't going anywhere but into my workshop 
one of these days.  It'll NEVER be a show truck, but I will eventually do 
the sheet metal repairs it needs,  It's really still very solid, with just a 
couple of holes in the normal "Chebby" places.  It'll still haul a LOT of 
Spridget parts (along with plenty of driveway limestone, firewood, mulch, 
etc.) before it gets to be restored.
Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Gardner" <rdgard at cox.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Chebby truck


> Bud,
>
> I bought a 79 1/2 ton Chebby van new in 79 and finally replaced the engine
> at 390,000 miles.  It still was running quite good, but was blowing freeze
> plugs.  Lost 6 of them, One cost me 800 and 13 hours on the LA freeway.
> Still had the ones behind the flywheel had not gone out yet.  Could not
> trust it so I got a GM crate motor.  Lost the tranny and sold the van at
> 500,000 plus miles.  They are the best!
>
> Keep it!  I assume it is not a show truck, but a work truck, so, some 
> sheet
> metal, some bondo, some primer and you are good to go for 200,000 more
> miles.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob in San Diego
>
> Robert D. Gardner
>
> Gardner Productions LLC
> Film and Video Production since 1978
> 619-460-1000
> www.gardnerproductions.com

From bpazur at excel.net  Tue Jun 22 07:35:41 2010
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:35:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FS - BE and Spridget Parts
Message-ID: <201006221335.o5MDZfjE020164@green.excel.net>

List -

I am putting my BE up for sale. I want to offer it to the list before I go
the EBay route, which I don't really want to do. I have a spec sheet for it
available now, and will have great pics this weekend.

I also have a fair amount of nice Spridgets parts that I've collected over
the years. I want to sell these as a lot and do not want to ship. So I will
sell very cheap. I cannot guarantee the condition of many of these. I have a
list of these available now.

I live less than a half hour from RA. I can wait until the ELVF/50th for
someone to come over and pick up either.

Contact me off-list about either.

Bud Pazur

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jun 22 07:48:22 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:48:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] trucks
In-Reply-To: <002a01cb11b6$475d5490$d617fdb0$@com>
References: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><C8455B7B.281E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
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Message-ID: <284C1CD10A734964B3B8736DFB2F7CEE@OwnerPC>

Now that's what I would call a great, old truck, at a great price.  Can't 
recall if that series still had the metal dash, something I prefer to the 
padded, vinyl dash coverings that dry out, discolor and crack with age. 
Does it have coil springs in the rear?  Seems to me that Chevy/GMC used coil 
springs on both ends of those trucks before switching back to semi-elliptics 
in the rear in '73.
When I started getting company pick-up trucks provided to me, in '73, our 
company still had one '72 Chevy, which the port engineers refused to give up 
in favor of the "new" series.  I drove several of the "new" Chevy trucks 
('73 thru...what was it...'80-something) as company vehicles.  All but two 
were '8 foot beds and all but three had the 350 four barrel engine, and 
Turbo-Hydromatic.  One, a 3/4 ton model, had a/c, dealer-installed dual gas 
tanks (my service area responsibilities included the Upper Mississippi River 
from Cairo to LaCrosse, Wis. during the arab oil embargo era), which I 
almost lived in for a couple of years.  I have to say that it was my 
favorite.  My least favorite were a couple of 1/2 tons, with 6' beds and the 
(by then) very anemic 6 cylinder.  They were never made to carry the load of 
tools, trash pumps and spare cargo pump parts I needed to carry around. 
But, until the '82 model, I never had a problem with any of them (the '82 
needed an engine rebuild at relatively low mileage).
My oldest son drives a new ('06 I think) F-150 and has already had the 
transmission crap-out on him at 40,000 miles, along with some other, minor 
problems that an older truck would NEVER have.  He's like to just get an old 
truck, from down south somewhere, and be done with truck payments and 
expensive repairs & maintenance.  But, since he doesn't have time to restore 
a pre'75 truck, he's stuck with the new stuff.
BTW, for those of you who like old trucks, there's an excellent magazine, 
called Vintage Truck, dedicated to old, light trucks, vans & station wagons. 
Check it out.

Bud Osbourne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Billy Zoom'" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>; "'Edmund Conen'" 
<conen at bellsouth.net>; "'Spridgets List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:54 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] trucks


> I'm driving a 1970 GMC 2500 Custom Camper. It's a 3/4 ton truck, with a 
> one
> ton (8 lug wheel) rear axle from the factory. It has non assisted drum
> brakes, and manual steering. It's a 3 speed Turbo hydramatic and 350 V8 
> with
> factory 4 barrel. It had split rims on it originally. It has factory "west
> coast" mirrors. It has aftermarket under dash AC cold enough to hang meat.
>
> I paid $400 years ago. It needs rockers and cab corners, and minor repair 
> in
> the bed. What's nice is its straight, as it had a camper in it, was never
> used as a work truck.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 08:03:30 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:03:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Parts
In-Reply-To: <179740.46054.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTinWbdPwUMJ0i-7h4p1L7qB0pKEFcZv44-LEDF7F@mail.gmail.com>
	<179740.46054.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimqXmdQXGAr_K1H19KbtgHWfH4kJA6EnMTwUi45@mail.gmail.com>

I've ebayed a couple that went for over $200 each.
One went to Scotland.
The 3.7s do even better.

>
> In person, they change hands for $75 all the time.

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Jun 22 08:08:06 2010
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 09:08:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] trucks
In-Reply-To: <284C1CD10A734964B3B8736DFB2F7CEE@OwnerPC>
References: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><C8455B7B.281E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<002a01cb11b6$475d5490$d617fdb0$@com>
	<284C1CD10A734964B3B8736DFB2F7CEE@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <002301cb1214$57f793c0$07e6bb40$@com>

No, mine has leaf springs. My brother restored a 1/2 ton, and that has
coils.

The 1967 thru 1972 Chevy and GMC trucks were really tough. You see very few
Fords of that era surviving.

In my post-divorce #2 downsizing, I sold my 1 ton Dodge diesel dually, but I
still need a truck to haul dogs, and bigger crap that won't fit in my 95
Grand Cherokee. I did keep my slide in camper, and if I ever experience an
economic recovery in this lifetime, I hope to return to vintage racing in an
"old school" way... pulling an open trailer behind the GMC Custom Camper.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bud Osbourne [mailto:abcoz at hky.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:48 AM
To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Billy Zoom'; 'Edmund Conen'; 'Spridgets List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] trucks

Now that's what I would call a great, old truck, at a great price.  Can't 
recall if that series still had the metal dash, something I prefer to the 
padded, vinyl dash coverings that dry out, discolor and crack with age. 
Does it have coil springs in the rear?  Seems to me that Chevy/GMC used coil

springs on both ends of those trucks before switching back to semi-elliptics

in the rear in '73.
When I started getting company pick-up trucks provided to me, in '73, our 
company still had one '72 Chevy, which the port engineers refused to give up

in favor of the "new" series.  I drove several of the "new" Chevy trucks 
('73 thru...what was it...'80-something) as company vehicles.  All but two 
were '8 foot beds and all but three had the 350 four barrel engine, and 
Turbo-Hydromatic.  One, a 3/4 ton model, had a/c, dealer-installed dual gas 
tanks (my service area responsibilities included the Upper Mississippi River

from Cairo to LaCrosse, Wis. during the arab oil embargo era), which I 
almost lived in for a couple of years.  I have to say that it was my 
favorite.  My least favorite were a couple of 1/2 tons, with 6' beds and the

(by then) very anemic 6 cylinder.  They were never made to carry the load of

tools, trash pumps and spare cargo pump parts I needed to carry around. 
But, until the '82 model, I never had a problem with any of them (the '82 
needed an engine rebuild at relatively low mileage).
My oldest son drives a new ('06 I think) F-150 and has already had the 
transmission crap-out on him at 40,000 miles, along with some other, minor 
problems that an older truck would NEVER have.  He's like to just get an old

truck, from down south somewhere, and be done with truck payments and 
expensive repairs & maintenance.  But, since he doesn't have time to restore

a pre'75 truck, he's stuck with the new stuff.
BTW, for those of you who like old trucks, there's an excellent magazine, 
called Vintage Truck, dedicated to old, light trucks, vans & station wagons.

Check it out.

Bud Osbourne

----- Original Message ----- 

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jun 22 08:18:36 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:18:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <C8455B7B.281E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C8455B7B.281E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <9BD13200C6C04394843B7DA59D81F76E@OwnerPC>

The local Giant Eagle grocery chain has built a fabulous, new store in one 
of the local mall areas.  While being dragged through there by my wife, the 
other day, I noticed they had a beautifully restored '53 Ford F-100 serving 
as part of the decor in the produce department.  Just breaks my heart to see 
that great old truck wasted like that.....and I'm not really a fan of 
anything Ford.
Likewise, the Quaker Steak "n Lube restaurant chain (originated in Sharon, 
PA and just began franchising a few years ago) uses vintage cars, trucks, 
motorcycles & race cars as part of their decor.  Looks great, but what a 
waste of good machinery.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Edmund Conen" <conen at bellsouth.net>; "Spridgets List" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)


>>  IF i was to need a truck for my business
> A number of years ago, after 24 years of faithful service, I foolishly 
> sold
> my '53 F-100 panel.  I've been looking for it on Ebay and Craigslist ever
> since. If I ever find it, I'll pull the 215 straight six and replace it 
> with
> a 300" straight six and an over-drive tranny.  I think that's about as
> modern as a truck should get. In the meantime, I'll make due with the '66
> Ranchero, but I don't think the V-8 will ever sound right to my ears.
> BZ

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jun 22 08:30:40 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:30:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] trucks
In-Reply-To: <002301cb1214$57f793c0$07e6bb40$@com>
References: <864519.28124.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com><C8455B7B.281E7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<002a01cb11b6$475d5490$d617fdb0$@com>
	<284C1CD10A734964B3B8736DFB2F7CEE@OwnerPC>
	<002301cb1214$57f793c0$07e6bb40$@com>
Message-ID: <10B75F11DEE1484593CE2201B48E1F55@OwnerPC>

OK, then it must have been the 1/2 ton models that used the coil springs.  I 
remember being told by the port engineers that, when they threw a load of 
Alco 251B cylinder heads & liners in that old truck, the back end would tend 
to wag around a bit.  I never had that problem with my '73 and later 
Chevys....and I used to put some hellacious loads on them.
You're right about the old Chevys being really tough.  I know that around 
here (Pittsburgh area), there are far more old Chevy trucks still running 
around than there are Fords of similar vintage.  Dodges don't seem to last 
as long as the Fords, if old Dodge sightings are any indication.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wsthompson at thicko.com>
To: "'Bud Osbourne'" <abcoz at hky.com>; "'Billy Zoom'" 
<billyzoom at billyzoom.com>; "'Edmund Conen'" <conen at bellsouth.net>; 
"'Spridgets List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] trucks


> No, mine has leaf springs. My brother restored a 1/2 ton, and that has
> coils.
>
> The 1967 thru 1972 Chevy and GMC trucks were really tough. You see very 
> few
> Fords of that era surviving.
>
> In my post-divorce #2 downsizing, I sold my 1 ton Dodge diesel dually, but 
> I
> still need a truck to haul dogs, and bigger crap that won't fit in my 95
> Grand Cherokee. I did keep my slide in camper, and if I ever experience an
> economic recovery in this lifetime, I hope to return to vintage racing in 
> an
> "old school" way... pulling an open trailer behind the GMC Custom Camper.

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Tue Jun 22 08:31:23 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:31:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] trucks
In-Reply-To: <284C1CD10A734964B3B8736DFB2F7CEE@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <20100622143123.2D5S7.28435.root@cdptpa-web02-z01>

The last big pickup I owned was a 1973.  It had a lot of miles on it when I bought it so the first thing I did was pull the engine and overhaul it.  It was 2 door, long/wide bed, 454, automatic.  These were great trucks.

At one point in time it became difficult to buy new 1-tons so my dad bought a 3/4 ton to make a tow truck out of.  It worked very well, its only shortcoming was its electric winch.  Then we bought a full 1-ton to replace it.  Now he has a Dodge diesel that has several hundred k miles on it.  The drivetrains keep on going but the Dodge vehicle surrounding the drivetrain falls apart early.

I would not have a problem buying a new Ford or Chevy pickup right now.  I would only buy a Dodge if I specifically needed its superior powertrain for towing.


>  I drove several of the "new" Chevy trucks 
> ('73 thru...what was it...'80-something) as company vehicles.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun 22 09:42:36 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:42:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Ulitmate Off Road Vehicle
In-Reply-To: <241758.7786.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <241758.7786.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C20D9EC.4060304@frontiernet.net>

As much as I love my Jeeps, neither will do this!!

Kate
>
>
> If your heart's not in it,then it's time to get out!
> - Julie Sullivan -
>
>
>     This is pretty cool...I'd sure like to get a closer look at how
>     this thing is built!
>      
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      
>      
>
>
>     _http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=w_F7QrR4Ur8_
>      
>
>      
>
>
>      
>
>      
>      
>     	
>      
>
>      
>      
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 22 09:46:11 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 08:46:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MorriService party - For Paul Asgeirsson
Message-ID: <403295.47252.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Here is the new plan -
 
MorriService party - For Paul Asgeirsson
Sunday July 11Th
Time 10am - ? pm 
Dixson Lake Park .
1700 La Honda Dr, Escondido, CA
http://www.lakedixon.com/
 
Free to seniors over 60
$5 for all vehicles - $10 Buses or vehicles or over 20ft
 
>From there we can make other plans with those who attend.
The park has Picnic Facilities & fishing in the lake.
If we get tired of looking at cars
We could even take drive.
People offered a B-B-Q at there home too.
Depending on the head count & if people want to take a 10 min ride.
Escondido Communities have a restriction - you can not work on your car in the
street. 
This means no tech sessions - sorry not my rules - 
I have already made the arrangements to get Paul out of the living facility.
The only thing left is for you to show up with your car if you can.
British cars perfered -  All forms of transportation well come -  
I know it is a drive for a lot of people so the family car is fine.
The important part is Paul seeing his old friends and making new ones.
 
Please pass this on to any one know might be interested in seeing Paul or old
cars.
 
Any Questions or suggestions -  Write me 
 
Vigil
 
 
 
 

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Tue Jun 22 10:53:28 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 12:53:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Ulitmate Off Road Vehicle
In-Reply-To: <4C20D9EC.4060304@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <20100622165328.5X64J.30355.root@cdptpa-web18-z01>

That is some extreme articulation, and TRUE independent suspension.

Jeep rockcrawlers need articulation, good approach angles, and good ground clearance.  These guys have eliminated the axles altogether, which improves articulation AND ground clearance at the same time.

Driving it might be a challenge.  They have hydraulic cylinders at each corner.  I wonder if they have 4 separate sticks to control it with or if they have a more unified control.


> As much as I love my Jeeps, neither will do this!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     This is pretty cool...I'd sure like to get a closer look at how
> >     this thing is built!
> >
> >     http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=w_F7QrR4Ur8

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 10:31:43 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:31:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Ulitmate Off Road Vehicle
In-Reply-To: <4C20D9EC.4060304@frontiernet.net>
References: <241758.7786.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C20D9EC.4060304@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimW0MMhHbg7ozwn6dCRSRvqlaWMhS_QicvhbcDj@mail.gmail.com>

This is my friend's M715 in action.  He sold that one and we're
building a 1942 Dodge with the same motor as the 715, Cummins 4BT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3vL9RGJ3ek

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 13:39:37 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 13:39:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Bentley MGB Shop Manual FS
Message-ID: <AANLkTimBYkkgYecxqcJ_zPbyCgNxj-1wxjH3c7iNs_wp@mail.gmail.com>

I have a very nice copy of the Bentley "The Complete Official MGB"
that I do not need... It covers 1962 to 1968, maybe 1970 models. It is
the 2nd revised edition.  Anyone on the list want it for $15 plus
actual shipping?

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Jun 22 13:55:38 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:55:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Hose story - long story.
Message-ID: <87d24a$8katn9@email.mtu.edu>

When I restored my Sprite I thought I would do a smart thing by using 
a hose from the clutch slave cylinder up to a convenient place in the 
engine compartment to bleed the clutch cylinder. That way I could 
bleed the slave cylinder from the top rather than from the underside. 
That worked - for two years. Last weekend I wanted to go for a ride 
but I couldn't get the tranny in gear - any gear. I thought that was 
odd since I have used the car since the long winter nap with no 
problems. I got under the car and with the assistance of my wife 
discovered no mechanical problems. The cylinder and hose were dry - 
no leaks and all the hardware was in place. So, I suspected perhaps 
air in the system even though I could see the push rod moving some as 
my wife pressed the pedal. I was so happy that I could bleed the 
cylinder from the top and mentally gave myself a pat on the back for 
installing the hose. What came out of the bleeder was a coffee 
colored liquid - not anything like the Castrol LMA I put in. I 
conclude what happened was that the hose is disintegrating and that 
"goop" is settling into the slave cylinder because the hose is 
essentially vertical. The goop is causing some "piston stickum." I 
rule out (with X degree of certainty) the rubber seal IN the cylinder 
because 1) I purchased the rebuild kit decades ago so it's probably 
not a foreign made part. 2) With some fiddling I got the car working 
3) there were no leaks evident externally, 4) the line is all metal 
from the pedal box to the slave cylinder.

The Hose
The hose has an interesting history and I could tell a long story 
including a side story about buried treasure (7 barrels of sliver), 
but this story is already getting long. I got three brake line hoses 
from a guy, Carlos Wenberg (Google his name for the treasure story - 
if you get a newspaper page from Lima, N.Y. you are close) who must 
have had a British Leyland garage at one time. He drove a Land Rover 
and I think I can remember a Rover car in the story and BL signs in 
his shop. His current endeavor, in the '70's, was building a 
prototype, totally hydraulic snow removal truck for airports. A huge 
engine on the rear ran a BIG pump that powered the vehicle and rotary 
snow thrower. Anyhow, he gave my three brake line hoses (two with 
part numbers 3700631 and a 538814 - BL numbers??) I received the 
hoses in about the '70's and they had probably been in his possession 
for 20 years or longer - do the math.

I plan to replace the hose with a metal line, bleed the slave 
cylinder 'til I get clear fluid and hope that the internal rubber 
seal is OK. The fluid in the master cylinder is nice and clean so I 
have some reason for hope.

Now. . .  I have two NOS brake line hoses left and they are for sale 
- see numbers above. Antique hoses even. They don't fit a Spridget - 
you have to figure out what they do fit. These are the kind of 
antique that is better put in a display case rather than on your car. 
Just let me know if you are interested! LOL



Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 22 14:12:55 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:12:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <4C20276D.10100@comcast.net>
References: <74257.35040.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<4C1EBE26.1060703@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w4211220F303B99433CF971C2C30@phx.gbl>,
	<4C20276D.10100@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w2420AE69649CE7A41A7D2C2C40@phx.gbl>

Wow Frank, you must be slippin..
Thought you would have made them take off those Chinese tires
 and put something else on..

LOL

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



>
> On 6/21/2010 7:18 PM, brian S wrote:
> > Didn't come with Hankook tires, did it?????
> > I've seen a few that did.
>
> Yes it did, and a tilt steering wheel, one more sign that all trucks are
> getting foo-foo these days.
>
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites

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From scott at limsguy.com  Tue Jun 22 14:29:54 2010
From: scott at limsguy.com (Scott Johnston)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:29:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Introduction - Long ago lurker is back
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimBYkkgYecxqcJ_zPbyCgNxj-1wxjH3c7iNs_wp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimBYkkgYecxqcJ_zPbyCgNxj-1wxjH3c7iNs_wp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C211D42.4040909@limsguy.com>

Hi everyone,

After a few years away, I'm back and hoping to finally make some 
progress on my '66 Sprite now that we are moving and getting a larger 
garage.

But before we can move, the junker parts car has got to go.   If anyone 
has interest in a parts car (located in the Syracuse, NY area), read on.


  It's an early 70s Midget with the round wheel arches and lots of rust. 
  It's mostly complete except no engine and tranny.  Most of the body 
panels are shot but the bonnet and boot lid are in nice shape.  The 
interior is complete (minus the pedals) and all the top hardware is 
there and functioning.  So there are still some usable bits to be had.

Any takers?  I just need to get rid of it by next week, and hate the 
thought of sending it to the junkers.  Make an offer  (money, beer,??) 
and come haul it away.


Scott

'66 Red Sprite
'97 Atlanta Blue Z3
'07 Forester
'10 Outback

-- 


Scott Johnston Inc.
www.limsguy.com

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jun 22 15:08:32 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:08:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Hose story - long story.
In-Reply-To: <87d24a$8katn9@email.mtu.edu>
References: <87d24a$8katn9@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <201006221408466.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 02:55 PM 6/22/2010, Tim Collins wrote:
><snip>. Anyhow, he gave my three brake line hoses (two with part 
>numbers 3700631 <SNIP>
>
>Now. . .  I have two NOS brake line hoses left and they are for sale 
>- see numbers above. Antique hoses even. They don't fit a Spridget - 
>you have to figure out what they do fit. These are the kind of 
>antique that is better put in a display case rather than on your 
>car. Just let me know if you are interested! LOL
>
>
>
>Tim Collins

=======
Tim,
         That's a Girling number which got superceded to 64047389 in 
the 70's and in the 90 became GHP71. Fits Aston Martin DB5, 6, S 4/69 
- 72,  Maserati Quattroporte,  Mistrale 1965-68. Morgan 4/4 series V 
61-66, Plus Eight 72-73, Landrover 109 62 - 71
---------- among others. These are the popular applications.

         Peter C

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Jun 22 16:07:43 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:07:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Hose story - long story.
In-Reply-To: <201006221408466.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <87d24a$8katn9@email.mtu.edu>
	<201006221408466.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <87d2rg$8res66@email.mtu.edu>

Peter,
Thank you very much for this additional information!! What a great 
list of auto's. The hose is as close to owning any of these that I 
will ever have. I'm quite sure Carlos stocked the hoses for the 
"among others" category or perhaps the Landrover. If we could only go 
back in time and ask more questions, take pictures and document some 
of these things that didn't seem important at the moment. . . .  .

Thanks!


>=======
>Tim,
>         That's a Girling number which got superceded to 64047389 in 
> the 70's and in the 90 became GHP71. Fits Aston Martin DB5, 6, S 
> 4/69 - 72,  Maserati Quattroporte,  Mistrale 1965-68. Morgan 4/4 
> series V 61-66, Plus Eight 72-73, Landrover 109 62 - 71
>---------- among others. These are the popular applications.
>
>         Peter C

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 10:38:11 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:38:11 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Ulitmate Off Road Vehicle
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimW0MMhHbg7ozwn6dCRSRvqlaWMhS_QicvhbcDj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <241758.7786.qm@web34205.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C20D9EC.4060304@frontiernet.net>
	<AANLkTimW0MMhHbg7ozwn6dCRSRvqlaWMhS_QicvhbcDj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinKkHUT-6Skvtmc_rDbByJBD9b0UCffQKxLZxAg@mail.gmail.com>

Here's the 42 Dodge in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9iciC8t3rI

It is hard to tell but that barn was pulled to where it sat by a Ford
9000 tractor.  After that the Ford 9000 and one other tractor couldn't
move it.

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun 22 16:54:54 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:54:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Important on air conditioning!
In-Reply-To: <275213.80914.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <275213.80914.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C213F3E.5020304@frontiernet.net>

> This sure makes sense to me-don't know WHY it never occurred to me 
> before....
>
> Old age hasn't slowed me down at all. I was always this slow.
>
>
>                  *
>                 Subject:* Car Air-conditioning - Very Important!!!!
>
>                 My car book says to roll down the windows to let out
>                 all the hot air before turning on A/C.
>                  *_
>                 WHY ???????????_*
>
>                 Car Air-conditioning -
>
>                 No wonder more folks are dying from cancer than ever
>                 before.
>                 We wonder where this stuff comes from but here is an
>                 example that explains a lot of the cancer causing
>                 incidents.  
>                  
>                 Many people are in their cars first thing in the
>                 morning and the last thing at
>                 night, 7 days a week.
>                  
>                 As I read this, it makes me feel guilty and ill.
>                 Please pass this on to as many people as possible.
>                 Guess its not too late to make some changes
>
>                                             *   Car A/C (Air
>                 Conditioning) MUST READ!!!*
>
>                                       *_    Please do NOT turn on A/C
>                 as soon as you enter the car._*
>
>                 Open the windows after you enter your car
>                 and then turn ON the AC after a couple of minutes.
>
>                                                Here's why:   According
>                 to research, the car
>
>                 dashboard, seats, air freshener emit Benzene, a Cancer
>                 causing toxin
>                 (carcinogen - take time to observe the smell of heated
>                 plastic in your car).
>
>                                                In addition to causing
>                 cancer, Benzene
>                 poisons your bones, causes anemia and reduces white
>                 blood cells. Prolonged
>                 exposure will cause Leukemia, increasing the risk of
>                 cancer. Can also cause
>                 miscarriage.
>
>                                                Acceptable Benzene
>                 level indoors is 50mg per sq.ft.
>                 A car parked indoors with windows closed will contain
>                 400-800 mg of Benzene.
>
>                                                If parked outdoors
>                 under the sun at a
>                 temperature above 60 degrees F, the Benzene level goes
>                 up to 2000-4000 mg,
>                 40 times the acceptable level.
>
>                                                 People who get into
>                 the car, keeping windows
>                 closed will inevitably inhale, in quick succession,
>                 excessive amounts of the toxin.
>
>                                                Benzene is a toxin that
>                 affects your kidney
>                 and liver.. What's worse, it is extremely difficult
>                 for your body to expel
>                 this toxic stuff.
>
>                                                So friends, please open
>                 the windows and door
>                 of your car - give time for interior to air out
>                 -dispel the deadly stuff -
>                 before you enter.
>
>                                                Thought: 'When someone
>                 shares something of
>                 value with you and you benefit from it, you have a
>                 moral obligation to share
>                 it with others.'
>
>                                  This is what snopes.com
>                 <http://snopes.com/> says.  It is not the air
>                 conditioning in the car but the Benzene producing
>                 agents that cause cancer.
>                                
>                  http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/benzene.asp

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Jun 22 17:19:15 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:19:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] FW: Important on air conditioning!
In-Reply-To: <4C213F3E.5020304@frontiernet.net>
References: <275213.80914.qm@web34207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C213F3E.5020304@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVkezifuLbfOGqxn1i8g7MESk6gXBTX4MHg0zr@mail.gmail.com>

It just amazes me that this email gets forwarded over and over again,
when if one actually reads the info linked @ snopes.com at the bottom
of the article it shows the email to be flawed!


Quoting from the snopes.com article:

... observations differed from the warning quoted above in some
significant areas:

 The study found that traveling by automobile increased exposure to a number
of

deleterious compounds, including benzene, but the primary factor in this
regard

was the fuel used by the vehicles, not internal components such as
dashboards.

 The study found that benzene levels were higher in older cars than newer
cars,

which suggests that the primary factor in automobile benzene levels is not

associated with the "new car smell" emitted by components such as dashboards

and upholstery.

 The study found that exposure levels were significantly higher
during the winter

months, which suggests that automobile air conditioning use is not a
major factor

in benzene exposure.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 22 18:22:55 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:22:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MorriService party - For Paul Asgeirsson
In-Reply-To: <403295.47252.qm@web38908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <369445.19009.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Awesome thing to do, Vigil. Wish I could be there. The Bustercluster somehow
seems much farther away than 4 years - this is a great encore.

Ron

--- On
Tue, 6/22/10, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
> Subject:
[Spridgets] MorriService party - For Paul Asgeirsson
> To: "spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Cc: "Midget/Sprite"
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>, "Sprite" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
> Date:
Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 10:46 AM
>  
> Here is the new plan -
>  
>
MorriService party - For Paul Asgeirsson
> Sunday July 11Th
> Time 10am - ? pm
> Dixson Lake Park .
> 1700 La Honda Dr, Escondido, CA
>
http://www.lakedixon.com/
>  
> Free to seniors over 60
> $5 for all vehicles
- $10 Buses or vehicles or over 20ft
>  
> >From there we can make other plans
with those who
> attend.
> The park has Picnic Facilities & fishing in the
lake.
> If we get tired of looking at cars
> We could even take drive.
>
People offered a B-B-Q at there home too.
> Depending on the head count & if
people want to take a
> 10 min ride.
> Escondido Communities have a
restriction - you can not work
> on your car in the
> street. 
> This means no
tech sessions - sorry not my rules - 
> I have already made the arrangements
to get Paul out of the
> living facility.
> The only thing left is for you to
show up with your car if
> you can.
> British cars perfered -  All forms of
transportation
> well come -  
> I know it is a drive for a lot of people so
the family car
> is fine.
> The important part is Paul seeing his old friends
and
> making new ones.
>  
> Please pass this on to any one know might be
interested in
> seeing Paul or old
> cars.
>  
> Any Questions or suggestions
-  Write me 
>  
> Vigil
>  
>  
>  
>  
>
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 22 19:41:36 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:41:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another British engine (not)
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w2420AE69649CE7A41A7D2C2C40@phx.gbl>
References: <74257.35040.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<4C1EBE26.1060703@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w4211220F303B99433CF971C2C30@phx.gbl>,
	<4C20276D.10100@comcast.net>
	<BAY145-w2420AE69649CE7A41A7D2C2C40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C216650.2070605@comcast.net>

On 6/22/2010 4:12 PM, brian S wrote:
> Wow Frank, you must be slippin..
> Thought you would have made them take off those Chinese tires
> and put something else on..

I just ordered new wheels today, if those tires are chibnese, I'll get 
new tires when the wheels come in.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 22 19:47:04 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 21:47:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Hose story - long story.
In-Reply-To: <87d24a$8katn9@email.mtu.edu>
References: <87d24a$8katn9@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <4C216798.7070607@comcast.net>

On 6/22/2010 3:55 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
> 1) I purchased the rebuild kit decades ago
> so it's probably not a foreign made part.

NOS rebuild kits and master cylinders along with radiator hoses and 
vinyl tops that are decades old is not a good idea.
Rubber dries out with age and becomes brittle.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun 22 20:21:18 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:21:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Hose story - long story.
References: <87d24a$8katn9@email.mtu.edu> <4C216798.7070607@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AAF568332A774323815DCB4A165C895B@MAINCOMPUTER>

I had some bad ho's stories but that was when I was in the military.

j.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Tim Collins" <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bad Hose story - long story.


> On 6/22/2010 3:55 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
>> 1) I purchased the rebuild kit decades ago
>> so it's probably not a foreign made part.
>
> NOS rebuild kits and master cylinders along with radiator hoses and
> vinyl tops that are decades old is not a good idea.
> Rubber dries out with age and becomes brittle.
>
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 22 20:57:04 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:57:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Hose story - long story.
In-Reply-To: <AAF568332A774323815DCB4A165C895B@MAINCOMPUTER>
References: <87d24a$8katn9@email.mtu.edu> <4C216798.7070607@comcast.net>
	<AAF568332A774323815DCB4A165C895B@MAINCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <4C217800.8030309@comcast.net>

On 6/22/2010 10:21 PM, Jim Fournier wrote:
> I had some bad ho's stories but that was when I was in the military.

All we have around here are nappy headed ho's

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Jun 22 22:33:15 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 23:33:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Hose story - long story.
In-Reply-To: <4C216798.7070607@comcast.net>
References: <87d24a$8katn9@email.mtu.edu> <4C216798.7070607@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <012501cb128d$3926e490$ab74adb0$@net>

My NOS 1960 AMCO top is in great shape after 9 years of being installed and
has NO issues with stiching or materials.  I wish Brad could find me another
one for the newest project:).  I agree with you on the radiator and brake
hoses though.

Leo


On 6/22/2010 3:55 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
> 1) I purchased the rebuild kit decades ago so it's probably not a 
> foreign made part.

NOS rebuild kits and master cylinders along with radiator hoses and vinyl
tops that are decades old is not a good idea.
Rubber dries out with age and becomes brittle.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites
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From lindlaw at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 23 07:56:30 2010
From: lindlaw at yahoo.com (Ed Lindley)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 06:56:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Sprite/Midget diff
Message-ID: <462061.55900.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Resent, pix attachments made it too big.  Pix available.

--- On Tue, 6/22/10, Ed Lindley <lindlaw at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Ed Lindley <lindlaw at yahoo.com>
Subject: Fw: Sprite/Midget diff
To: "1-Midget/Sprite" <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>, "1-Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Cc: "1 Auto-Locost_North_America at yahoogroups.com"
<1-Locost_North_America at yahoogroups.com>, "1-AH-9issa" <9issa at justbrits.com>,
macsclubhouse at yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 8:19 PM








Received this from a longtime friend and fellow auto enthusiast/  NFI, yadda,
yadda.
    Ed in SD
--- On Wed, 6/16/10, Ron Carrico <roncarrico at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Ron Carrico <roncarrico at hotmail.com>
Subject: Sprite/Midget diff
To: "ed lindley" <lindlaw at yahoo.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 9:15 AM




Finally the pictures.


This is a an Austin-Healey Sprite/MG Midget 4.22 differential with a Power
Lock Limited Slip unit.  It was inspected by Pro-Drive in San Diego and
appears in excellent condition.  The diff came with another car I own and I do
not need the unit.  The asking price is $850 for the complete assembly. Ron
Carrico 619 252-4711 or roncarrico at hotmail.com


I don't know if it will sell or not.  But it is just gathering dust in the
garage.


Thanks Ed.

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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 13:57:41 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:57:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New MC on ebay
Message-ID: <AANLkTilIJgyWQNljZ1IlLyL379rcLgZODoqSh6Q8xw2r@mail.gmail.com>

310228129562

$248.99

NFI

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310228129562&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:B:FSEL:US:1123#ht_610wt_937

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 23 14:01:56 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:01:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
Message-ID: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>

No-one's apparently.



We had an earthquake along the magnitude of 5.1 ( some reports as high as 5.7
).



I was on the road and had just pulled off the highway using an off ramp and
had just stopped ( red light ), checked my rear view to see a huge bus
approaching from behind and slowing nicely and checked my GPS.  Next thing I'm
feeling the car stating to shake from side to side and I think: "the bugger
ran into me.  Not serious ... we're not moving forward".  And, I think: "how
is it that we're moving side to side".  I check the mirror and the bus is
stopped a safe distance behind me.  Now, I'm thinking that the engine must
have grenaded or is running really rough.  By this time I'm starting to look
forward again and I see the car in front of me dancing from side to side.  You
know how soft side wall tires lean way over?  Well, he was doing that on one
side and then the other.  Now I'm thinking that the ramp is collapsing and I
want off.  The light turns green and off we go.  Turns out that the ramp is on
the ground, not supported in the air. ( found that out on the return trip. )



The first thing that I did when I got home was check to see that the car
that's supposed to be on the hoist was where it should be.



I was going to include a bit of fiction in that story about how my GPS started
showing me on one side of the road and then the other, but ... I was lazy. :)



This story is out of the wrong city, as the epicentre was just outside Ottawa,
but it's what I can find.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/06/23/tor-earthquake.html



Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Wed Jun 23 14:40:15 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:40:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>

At 04:01 PM 6/23/2010, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
>No-one's apparently.

George Bush????


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 15:01:37 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:01:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimL-a29C05O3qZy-0oFAnhys1sMaDlO_R5L0KFb@mail.gmail.com>

>> No-one's apparently.

> George Bush????

Well, I don't think it is the San Andreas Fault. Surely not the Madras
Fault, either.
David L

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun 23 15:08:43 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:08:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] whose Fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <6B095DB7D4E445BDBB1B5CC34C9765EC@spider>

San Andreas.

===============================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Collins
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:40 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!

At 04:01 PM 6/23/2010, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
>No-one's apparently.

George Bush????


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 
_______________________________________________

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 15:46:06 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:46:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] whose Fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <6B095DB7D4E445BDBB1B5CC34C9765EC@spider>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
	<6B095DB7D4E445BDBB1B5CC34C9765EC@spider>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinZExT1UZZQXthnmAoST2SlnhVBol8qJ7ZRbvWj@mail.gmail.com>

Internet is saying there are many small faults in Ontario... must have
to do with speaking French.
David L

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 23 16:10:25 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:10:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w167CDE768203E55A4FF68FC2C50@phx.gbl>

Looking at some of the pictures...Al Qaida??

Interesting part of the story:

 town employees were sent home for the day because they were so shaken
up by the incident.
and
Employees on Parliament Hill were evacuated from buildings and sent
home.
Figures...Government workers......scammers...

Oh wait, I am one!! nvm

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> To: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:01:56 +0000
> Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
>
> No-one's apparently.
>
>
>
> We had an earthquake along the magnitude of 5.1 ( some reports as high as
5.7
> ).
>
>
>
> I was on the road and had just pulled off the highway using an off ramp and
> had just stopped ( red light ), checked my rear view to see a huge bus
> approaching from behind and slowing nicely and checked my GPS.  Next thing
I'm
> feeling the car stating to shake from side to side and I think: "the bugger
> ran into me.  Not serious ... we're not moving forward".  And, I think:
"how
> is it that we're moving side to side".  I check the mirror and the bus is
> stopped a safe distance behind me.  Now, I'm thinking that the engine must
> have grenaded or is running really rough.  By this time I'm starting to
look
> forward again and I see the car in front of me dancing from side to side.
You
> know how soft side wall tires lean way over?  Well, he was doing that on
one
> side and then the other.  Now I'm thinking that the ramp is collapsing and
I
> want off.  The light turns green and off we go.  Turns out that the ramp is
on
> the ground, not supported in the air. ( found that out on the return trip.
)
>
>
>
> The first thing that I did when I got home was check to see that the car
> that's supposed to be on the hoist was where it should be.
>
>
>
> I was going to include a bit of fiction in that story about how my GPS
started
> showing me on one side of the road and then the other, but ... I was lazy.
:)
>
>
>
> This story is out of the wrong city, as the epicentre was just outside
Ottawa,
> but it's what I can find.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/06/23/tor-earthquake.html
>
>
>
> Robert Duquette
> Ottawa ON Canada
> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )
>
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 23 16:18:53 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:18:53 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>,
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w22758B0EE5EF1DEC10F39B8C50@phx.gbl>

I dunno.  I was told that the fault has no name.



Stephen Harper disavowed having felt the earth move under him.






> At 04:01 PM 6/23/2010, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
> >No-one's apparently.
>
> George Bush????
>
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/
> _______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 23 16:25:43 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:25:43 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w167CDE768203E55A4FF68FC2C50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>,
	<BAY145-w167CDE768203E55A4FF68FC2C50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w11C0237AB4BDA9EE98F40DB8C50@phx.gbl>

Yeah, I guess that after a shake like that, and it's considered a moderate
quake, the building people have to go in and inspect.



I am supposed to phone in before going back to work tomorrow to see if I can
get back in the building.



I only saw one person that was shook up.  She was running down the sidewalk
with her arms semi-raised and flapping around.  She looked scared.  But, we
government people barely show signs of life when something like that happens!
<I jest, of course.>








From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com
To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:10:25 -0400




Looking at some of the pictures...Al Qaida??

Interesting part of the story:

town employees were sent home for the day because they were so shaken up by
the incident.
and
Employees on Parliament Hill were evacuated from buildings and sent home.

Figures...Government workers......scammers...

Oh wait, I am one!! nvm

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> To: healeys at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:01:56 +0000
> Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
>
> No-one's apparently.
>
>
>
> We had an earthquake along the magnitude of 5.1 ( some reports as high as
5.7
> ).
>
>
>
> I was on the road and had just pulled off the highway using an off ramp and
> had just stopped ( red light ), checked my rear view to see a huge bus
> approaching from behind and slowing nicely and checked my GPS. Next thing
I'm
> feeling the car stating to shake from side to side and I think: "the bugger
> ran into me. Not serious ... we're not moving forward". And, I think: "how
> is it that we're moving side to side". I check the mirror and the bus is
> stopped a safe distance behind me. Now, I'm thinking that the engine must
> have grenaded or is running really rough. By this time I'm starting to look
> forward again and I see the car in front of me dancing from side to side.
You
> know how soft side wall tires lean way over? Well, he was doing that on one
> side and then the other. Now I'm thinking that the ramp is collapsing and I
> want off. The light turns green and off we go. Turns out that the ramp is
on
> the ground, not supported in the air. ( found that out on the return trip.
)
>
>
>
> The first thing that I did when I got home was check to see that the car
> that's supposed to be on the hoist was where it should be.
>
>
>
> I was going to include a bit of fiction in that story about how my GPS
started
> showing me on one side of the road and then the other, but ... I was lazy.
:)
>
>
>
> This story is out of the wrong city, as the epicentre was just outside
Ottawa,
> but it's what I can find.
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/06/23/tor-earthquake.html
>
>
>
> Robert Duquette
> Ottawa ON Canada
> 1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
> 1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
> 1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )
>
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 16:26:33 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:26:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] whose Fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinZExT1UZZQXthnmAoST2SlnhVBol8qJ7ZRbvWj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
	<6B095DB7D4E445BDBB1B5CC34C9765EC@spider>
	<AANLkTinZExT1UZZQXthnmAoST2SlnhVBol8qJ7ZRbvWj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimoQMoezW50KUBZctB6KEOvYQeKgh3gqr6O33F3@mail.gmail.com>

It's well known that God hates the French....

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> Internet is saying there are many small faults in Ontario... must have
> to do with speaking French.
> David L
> _______________________________________________
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 17:12:47 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:12:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w22758B0EE5EF1DEC10F39B8C50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
	<BAY147-w22758B0EE5EF1DEC10F39B8C50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim9XOnMDUrv28CkpH0LO0sLOdPL8KU3-uhmL1is@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:18 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> <snip>
>
>   felt the earth move under him.
>

</snip>

Yes, but was it good for you.......

Cheers!!
Jim

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jun 23 17:41:31 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:41:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w11C0237AB4BDA9EE98F40DB8C50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>,
	<BAY145-w167CDE768203E55A4FF68FC2C50@phx.gbl>
	<BAY147-w11C0237AB4BDA9EE98F40DB8C50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C229BAB.8070404@frontiernet.net>

When I worked for the State of NY, we actually looked forward to our 
weekly bomb threats. We'd all adjourn to the bar across the street and 
probably got more work done there than we ever did in the office.

Kate
>
>
>
> I only saw one person that was shook up.  She was running down the sidewalk
> with her arms semi-raised and flapping around.  She looked scared.  But, we
> government people barely show signs of life when something like that happens!
> <I jest, of course.>

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 18:23:11 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:23:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <4C229BAB.8070404@frontiernet.net>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
	<BAY145-w167CDE768203E55A4FF68FC2C50@phx.gbl>
	<BAY147-w11C0237AB4BDA9EE98F40DB8C50@phx.gbl>
	<4C229BAB.8070404@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikjeKkOS0PnX5zKAvvoD9yTioFuvr60bqYwvKQS@mail.gmail.com>

What's the big deal?  I mean it was only 5 or 5.5.  Round here nothing under
6.0 makes the first section of the paper....
Hal

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 19:23:28 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:23:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinG1u97WGtB2awD1adaxb6LxxsiHe7yn_yfGU0o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim07iqzlsJx4lZaj1uR_05n0ZAYlNcPFsGeeOfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinG1u97WGtB2awD1adaxb6LxxsiHe7yn_yfGU0o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I am new to the list, was introduced by Linda (thank you).  I am completing
the conversion of my  59' Bugeye race car back to street use.  I used to run
in the 80s at Bridgehampton, LI before they closed the track.

I was wondering if anyone knows where to get a good quality rubber body for
the turn signal lens on a Bugeye.  This is moss part number 159-600. I
bought a set  from either moss or VB (too long and too many parts ago to
remember) 3 out 4 where usable the forth will not hold the glass lens.  They
also do not feel as firm as the originals.

Thanks for the help.

Steven

59 Bugeye
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tvKOKUFm3KuVR7NCW14bbw?feat=directlink

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Wed Jun 23 20:19:50 2010
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:19:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim07iqzlsJx4lZaj1uR_05n0ZAYlNcPFsGeeOfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinG1u97WGtB2awD1adaxb6LxxsiHe7yn_yfGU0o@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikVANY3E8oeUtwIoDnknmFe3jhX2wQF4TBqZT7X@mail.gmail.com>

Me too! 2 years ago I bought 1 NOS and 3 modern reproductions.  2 years
later, I am in need of three new ones.

Trevor

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I am new to the list, was introduced by Linda (thank you).  I am completing
> the conversion of my  59' Bugeye race car back to street use.  I used to
> run
> in the 80s at Bridgehampton, LI before they closed the track.
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows where to get a good quality rubber body for
> the turn signal lens on a Bugeye.  This is moss part number 159-600. I
> bought a set  from either moss or VB (too long and too many parts ago to
> remember) 3 out 4 where usable the forth will not hold the glass lens.
>  They
> also do not feel as firm as the originals.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Steven
>
> 59 Bugeye
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tvKOKUFm3KuVR7NCW14bbw?feat=directlink
> _______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 23 21:01:40 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 23:01:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikVANY3E8oeUtwIoDnknmFe3jhX2wQF4TBqZT7X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim07iqzlsJx4lZaj1uR_05n0ZAYlNcPFsGeeOfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinG1u97WGtB2awD1adaxb6LxxsiHe7yn_yfGU0o@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikVANY3E8oeUtwIoDnknmFe3jhX2wQF4TBqZT7X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C22CA94.7020407@comcast.net>

On 6/23/2010 10:19 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote:
> Me too! 2 years ago I bought 1 NOS and 3 modern reproductions.  2 years
> later, I am in need of three new ones.

Yeah, something about modern rubber that just doesn't cut it.
I glass bead my old ones and they seem to be OK. Maybe I'll get another 
50 years out of them. But they still outlast the junk they offer today.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 24 07:31:46 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:31:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] whose Fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimoQMoezW50KUBZctB6KEOvYQeKgh3gqr6O33F3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>,
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>,
	<6B095DB7D4E445BDBB1B5CC34C9765EC@spider>,
	<AANLkTinZExT1UZZQXthnmAoST2SlnhVBol8qJ7ZRbvWj@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTimoQMoezW50KUBZctB6KEOvYQeKgh3gqr6O33F3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w471715B27F92E8705D58D8B8C60@phx.gbl>

LOL.
I think John Lennon likes them though.  They're much more likely to make love
and not war!  :)

Robert
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:26:33 -0500
>
> It's well known that God hates the French....
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Internet is saying there are many small faults in Ontario... must have
> > to do with speaking French.
> > David L
> > _______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 24 07:40:17 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:40:17 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim9XOnMDUrv28CkpH0LO0sLOdPL8KU3-uhmL1is@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>,
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>,
	<BAY147-w22758B0EE5EF1DEC10F39B8C50@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTim9XOnMDUrv28CkpH0LO0sLOdPL8KU3-uhmL1is@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w52A3A06665A97581D8FDDDB8C60@phx.gbl>

I would have to say 'yes'.  I was shaken but not stirred.  It added a bit of
excitement/adrenalin into a hectic problem filled, but otherwise dull week.

I wish I could get that Carole King song out of my head though.


On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:18 PM,  <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

<snip>



  felt the earth move under him.

</snip>

Yes, but was it good for you.......

Cheers!!
Jim

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 24 07:43:37 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:43:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikjeKkOS0PnX5zKAvvoD9yTioFuvr60bqYwvKQS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>,
	<BAY145-w167CDE768203E55A4FF68FC2C50@phx.gbl>,
	<BAY147-w11C0237AB4BDA9EE98F40DB8C50@phx.gbl>,
	<4C229BAB.8070404@frontiernet.net>,
	<AANLkTikjeKkOS0PnX5zKAvvoD9yTioFuvr60bqYwvKQS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w65F6ABFB896D52669272C6B8C60@phx.gbl>

I guess it's a big deal because we only get something of that magnitude
(5-ish) once every decade.
Now imagine waking up and finding 6 inches of snow on your roads ...  :)


> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:23:11 -0700
> From: frog.aye at gmail.com
>
> What's the big deal?  I mean it was only 5 or 5.5.  Round here nothing
under
> 6.0 makes the first section of the paper....
> Hal
> _______________________________________________

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 24 07:54:14 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 06:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <856518.82579.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Steven,
Welcome aboard. Bridgehampton was my favorite track ever since going there in
1978 for a $50 test day. Fast and challenging track, but many people did not
like the tow and the rudimentary facilities and it didn't help that for years
the track was under threat of being sold to developers.  I raced a 948 Mark II
Sprite in the 80's, but the production fields were slim at that time, and SCCA
rule was if you didn't have enough cars to make a race in H/P you got bumped
up to G/P. One of my fondest Sprite memories from Bridgehampton was having a
great race in G/P in 1983 with an Alfa and two other cars, and finishing a
close 2nd.
What a beautiful job you've done on the old race car!  It looks like lots of
time went into those quarter panels.
John Caffrey
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Wed, 6/23/10, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:
I am new to the list, was introduced by Linda (thank you).  I am completing
the conversion of my  59' Bugeye race car back to street use.  I used to run
in the 80s at Bridgehampton, LI before they closed the track.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 09:04:18 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:04:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] whose Fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w471715B27F92E8705D58D8B8C60@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>
	<6B095DB7D4E445BDBB1B5CC34C9765EC@spider>
	<AANLkTinZExT1UZZQXthnmAoST2SlnhVBol8qJ7ZRbvWj@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimoQMoezW50KUBZctB6KEOvYQeKgh3gqr6O33F3@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY147-w471715B27F92E8705D58D8B8C60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTing6O40OucwUMYmXOk8Ez-Sfrq83Ppx0hR1lm7s@mail.gmail.com>

Lennon is dead. I don't know if that made the news yet up there or not!!
;^)

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:31 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> LOL.
> I think John Lennon likes them though.  They're much more likely to make
> love
> and not war!  :)
>
> Robert
> > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:26:33 -0500
>  >
> > It's well known that God hates the French....
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Internet is saying there are many small faults in Ontario... must have
> > > to do with speaking French.
> > > David L
> > > _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 24 09:15:28 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:15:28 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] whose Fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTing6O40OucwUMYmXOk8Ez-Sfrq83Ppx0hR1lm7s@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>,
	<87d2rg$8rl7dr@email.mtu.edu>,
	<6B095DB7D4E445BDBB1B5CC34C9765EC@spider>,
	<AANLkTinZExT1UZZQXthnmAoST2SlnhVBol8qJ7ZRbvWj@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTimoQMoezW50KUBZctB6KEOvYQeKgh3gqr6O33F3@mail.gmail.com>,
	<BAY147-w471715B27F92E8705D58D8B8C60@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTing6O40OucwUMYmXOk8Ez-Sfrq83Ppx0hR1lm7s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w2486D99927FA59B16B9B76B8C60@phx.gbl>

Yeah!  We're just not sure if he believed what he imagined.  Maybe he is in
heaven?  Or, maybe god imagined that there was no JL?


From: tequila.brad at gmail.com

Lennon is dead. I don't know if that made the news yet up there or not!!
;^)


On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:31 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

LOL.
I think John Lennon likes them though.  They're much more likely to make love
and not war!  :)


Robert
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:26:33 -0500



>
> It's well known that God hates the French....
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:46 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > Internet is saying there are many small faults in Ontario... must have
> > to do with speaking French.
> > David L
> > _______________________________________________
_______________________________________________

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 24 09:52:53 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:52:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: [morris_motors] Fw: Little Car Show in Montery
Message-ID: <249432.97355.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
This sounds like a interesting show.
So i am passing it on to the people who may be interested..
Please feel free to do the same......
 
Vigil






Hi Vigil
 
We signed up for a Little Car show in Monterey
http://www.marinamotorsports.org/events/ looks like fun and great place to
have one.  It's the same week as Pebble Beach so there will be lots of car
people in the area.  if you know anyone that wants to attend please send this
info on to them.
 
Lynn
 
 



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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 24 10:00:42 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:00:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim07iqzlsJx4lZaj1uR_05n0ZAYlNcPFsGeeOfg@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTinG1u97WGtB2awD1adaxb6LxxsiHe7yn_yfGU0o@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w10EF091A52DEB25BD459CFC2C60@phx.gbl>

Beautiful car Steve. You've done a fantastic job.
Where are located?
There a a few of us on Long Island if you're still here.
Love to see your car if you are.
I've restored a former racecar for street use also.
Consensus amongst the list is that for rubber parts,
the place to go is
http://www.macgregorukcarparts.com/
A couple vendors on the list  carry or can get their parts.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:23:28 -0400
> From: an5.sprite at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am new to the list, was introduced by Linda (thank you).  I am completing
> the conversion of my  59' Bugeye race car back to street use.  I used to
run
> in the 80s at Bridgehampton, LI before they closed the track.
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows where to get a good quality rubber body for
> the turn signal lens on a Bugeye.  This is moss part number 159-600. I
> bought a set  from either moss or VB (too long and too many parts ago to
> remember) 3 out 4 where usable the forth will not hold the glass lens.
They
> also do not feel as firm as the originals.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Steven
>
> 59 Bugeye
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tvKOKUFm3KuVR7NCW14bbw?feat=directlink
> _______________________________________________
>

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From cclabaw at juno.com  Thu Jun 24 10:56:26 2010
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:56:26 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
Message-ID: <20100624.095626.625.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

There is always Holden Vintage Electric in the UK; not cheap, but pretty
authentic.

CLay L.
;67 Sprite


---------- Original Message ----------
From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
To: <an5.sprite at gmail.com>, spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:00:42 -0400

Beautiful car Steve. You've done a fantastic job.
Where are located?
There a a few of us on Long Island if you're still here.
Love to see your car if you are.
I've restored a former racecar for street use also.
Consensus amongst the list is that for rubber parts,
the place to go is
http://www.macgregorukcarparts.com/
A couple vendors on the list  carry or can get their parts.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:23:28 -0400
> From: an5.sprite at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am new to the list, was introduced by Linda (thank you).  I am completing
> the conversion of my  59' Bugeye race car back to street use.  I used to
run
> in the 80s at Bridgehampton, LI before they closed the track.
>
> I was wondering if anyone knows where to get a good quality rubber body for
> the turn signal lens on a Bugeye.  This is moss part number 159-600. I
> bought a set  from either moss or VB (too long and too many parts ago to
> remember) 3 out 4 where usable the forth will not hold the glass lens.
They
> also do not feel as firm as the originals.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Steven
>
> 59 Bugeye
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tvKOKUFm3KuVR7NCW14bbw?feat=directlink
> _______________________________________________
>

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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 11:30:48 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:30:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] whose fault is that!
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w65F6ABFB896D52669272C6B8C60@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY147-w88484634FDEC8524ACD6AB8C50@phx.gbl>
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	<4C229BAB.8070404@frontiernet.net>
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On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:43 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Now imagine waking up and finding 6 inches of snow on your roads ...  :)
>

I lived in Minneapolis for 7 years, so I fully understand waking up to find
24" of snow on the roads!  The locals couldn't understand how I could have
lived in CA because,  "they have, ...they have... they have E  A  R  T  H
Q   U   A   K   E   S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"  I don't think they appreciated the
fact (?) that more people die from Blizzards in the upper Mid-West than die
from earthquakes in the US.  (I made that one up, but if it isn't true it
should be.)  The fact is that natural disasters can kill you anywhere, it's
just that the devil you know is somehow less threatening than the one you
don't know.
Hal

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 12:45:06 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:45:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Concours Standards
Message-ID: <AANLkTikL3FUP0kUuMHEtMg4c8NIDbHBKCoFe8fItj2v_@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I've been contacted by Mike Osipik from Kansas City who is presently serving
with the Austin Healey Sprite Concours group and he indicated that the
Concours standards for the Sprite badly need updating.  He wondered if I
knew of anyone who might be interested in helping to update them.

Some of you may remember Mike at Lake of the Ozarks in 2008. At that event
he noticed some outstanding examples of Sprites and wondered if some of
those owners might be interested in helping with this.  If you are, please
contact Mike...

Mike's contact information:

Mike Osipik
"Michael Osipik" <mikeosipik at earthlink.net>,
816-333-2506 (daytime - weekdays)
--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Thu Jun 24 16:45:12 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:45:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
In-Reply-To: <20100624.095626.625.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100624.095626.625.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTill31vepCyouoIthnTAYnKcP47jY0lK5D_-C6AK@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, the consensus recommendation is clearly Macgregor so I ordered a
pair from them.

I travel back and forth between Remsenburg and Brooklyn but the Bugeye stays
garaged in Remsenburg. Seems like there may be Sprite and bugeye on LI than
I thought!!

Steve

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:56 PM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com> wrote:

> Listers -
>
> There is always Holden Vintage Electric in the UK; not cheap, but pretty
> authentic.
>
> CLay L.
> ;67 Sprite
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
> To: <an5.sprite at gmail.com>, spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber
> Body
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:00:42 -0400
>
> Beautiful car Steve. You've done a fantastic job.
> Where are located?
> There a a few of us on Long Island if you're still here.
> Love to see your car if you are.
> I've restored a former racecar for street use also.
> Consensus amongst the list is that for rubber parts,
> the place to go is
> http://www.macgregorukcarparts.com/
> A couple vendors on the list  carry or can get their parts.
>
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:23:28 -0400
> > From: an5.sprite at gmail.com
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am new to the list, was introduced by Linda (thank you).  I am
> completing
> > the conversion of my  59' Bugeye race car back to street use.  I used to
> run
> > in the 80s at Bridgehampton, LI before they closed the track.
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone knows where to get a good quality rubber body
> for
> > the turn signal lens on a Bugeye.  This is moss part number 159-600. I
> > bought a set  from either moss or VB (too long and too many parts ago to
> > remember) 3 out 4 where usable the forth will not hold the glass lens.
> They
> > also do not feel as firm as the originals.
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> > Steven
> >
> > 59 Bugeye
> >
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tvKOKUFm3KuVR7NCW14bbw?feat=directlink
> > _______________________________________________
> >
>
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 24 21:13:18 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:13:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1098 parts galore
Message-ID: <247931.45923.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mass quantities, nearly for free. NFI, no knowledge of seller.

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1463349

Ron

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 08:00:05 2010
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:00:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber Body
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTill31vepCyouoIthnTAYnKcP47jY0lK5D_-C6AK@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100624.095626.625.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
	<AANLkTill31vepCyouoIthnTAYnKcP47jY0lK5D_-C6AK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiluH4UpvDmbwXTbdTd7oCp9UQPiZvL_l5MEuHTy@mail.gmail.com>

So the rubber "boots" he sells are different from the ones Moss and AHSpares
sells?  I was under the impression that they were all from the same
manufacturer.  Can anyone "in the know" shed light on this?

Thanks,
Trevor

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks, the consensus recommendation is clearly Macgregor so I ordered a
> pair from them.
>
> I travel back and forth between Remsenburg and Brooklyn but the Bugeye
> stays
> garaged in Remsenburg. Seems like there may be Sprite and bugeye on LI than
> I thought!!
>
> Steve
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:56 PM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Listers -
> >
> > There is always Holden Vintage Electric in the UK; not cheap, but pretty
> > authentic.
> >
> > CLay L.
> > ;67 Sprite
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
> > To: <an5.sprite at gmail.com>, spridgets list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber
> > Body
> > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:00:42 -0400
> >
> > Beautiful car Steve. You've done a fantastic job.
> > Where are located?
> > There a a few of us on Long Island if you're still here.
> > Love to see your car if you are.
> > I've restored a former racecar for street use also.
> > Consensus amongst the list is that for rubber parts,
> > the place to go is
> > http://www.macgregorukcarparts.com/
> > A couple vendors on the list  carry or can get their parts.
> >
> > Brian S.
> > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:23:28 -0400
> > > From: an5.sprite at gmail.com
> > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > > Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [spridgets] Bugeye Turn Signal Lens Rubber
> Body
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I am new to the list, was introduced by Linda (thank you).  I am
> > completing
> > > the conversion of my  59' Bugeye race car back to street use.  I used
> to
> > run
> > > in the 80s at Bridgehampton, LI before they closed the track.
> > >
> > > I was wondering if anyone knows where to get a good quality rubber body
> > for
> > > the turn signal lens on a Bugeye.  This is moss part number 159-600. I
> > > bought a set  from either moss or VB (too long and too many parts ago
> to
> > > remember) 3 out 4 where usable the forth will not hold the glass lens.
> > They
> > > also do not feel as firm as the originals.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the help.
> > >
> > > Steven
> > >
> > > 59 Bugeye
> > >
> >
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tvKOKUFm3KuVR7NCW14bbw?feat=directlink
> > > _______________________________________________

From derbydave at cox.net  Fri Jun 25 18:00:28 2010
From: derbydave at cox.net (derbydave at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:00:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye owner tired of waiting at the side of the road.
Message-ID: <0D92CB6446334793BB474CC31A5982A5@Dave>

Here's what I have....

1959 Bugeye/1275 cc/ New Weber 45 DCOE/ New Delco EP12S Fuel pump.

Here's the problem.

The car runs for 30 min to an hour then stops.  Checked  the fuel line at the
carburetor and there is no fuel but I can hear the Delco Electric fuel pump
running. If I let the car sit for 45 mins to an hour and then it will run for
another 30 mins to a hour.

Note: this is my second Delco pump in the last 6 months.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun 25 18:11:26 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:11:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mistake
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinhCj5S9SGBj3CZOcMXgtJxh6D_QYlFJMCuHPIo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim07iqzlsJx4lZaj1uR_05n0ZAYlNcPFsGeeOfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinG1u97WGtB2awD1adaxb6LxxsiHe7yn_yfGU0o@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
	<E153A65CADB040459763A66FB5132DB0@Home>
	<AANLkTinhCj5S9SGBj3CZOcMXgtJxh6D_QYlFJMCuHPIo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5FFB2E1B7A5341EF81D315C6D0BDADAD@Home>

I made a really big mistake today.  

Steve Guterman is a new member of the list who lives about 5 miles from me.  I did not know him, but he is restoring a Bugeye that has been in storage for  many years, so I thought I would check it out.  Big Mistake.  

It looks nice in his pictures, of course (http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye#), but lots of cars look nice in pictures and can't meet the eyeball test.  Right?

Right?

Wrong!  Really bad mistake.

This car can meet the magnifying glass test.  It is drop-dead gorgeous, with all manner of custom touches like a cherry burl dash and custom welded aluminum grill, etc.  The engine bay is clean enough to serve dinner on, but it has so many colorful touches that you might have trouble distinguishing the hoses from the hors d'oeuvres.

I am destroyed.  There is no way I could ever manage the skill to build such a car.  Now anything I do will pale by comparison.  

I should have known.  Very big, very bad mistake.

Michael Rowe, DPO

From george.brokaw at cox.net  Fri Jun 25 18:15:01 2010
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:15:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye owner tired of waiting at the side of the
 road.
In-Reply-To: <0D92CB6446334793BB474CC31A5982A5@Dave>
References: <0D92CB6446334793BB474CC31A5982A5@Dave>
Message-ID: <013001cb14c4$9ea2dc50$dbe894f0$@cox.net>

My first thought is what happens if you remove the gas cap?  Is there a
BUNCH of vacuum when you open it?  I.e. the pump is sucking as hard as it
can and gives out at the high vacuum.

Paul

-----Original Message-----

Here's what I have....

1959 Bugeye/1275 cc/ New Weber 45 DCOE/ New Delco EP12S Fuel pump.

Here's the problem.

The car runs for 30 min to an hour then stops.  Checked  the fuel line at
the carburetor and there is no fuel but I can hear the Delco Electric fuel
pump running. If I let the car sit for 45 mins to an hour and then it will
run for another 30 mins to a hour.

Note: this is my second Delco pump in the last 6 months.

From george.brokaw at cox.net  Fri Jun 25 18:22:44 2010
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:22:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mistake
In-Reply-To: <5FFB2E1B7A5341EF81D315C6D0BDADAD@Home>
References: <AANLkTim07iqzlsJx4lZaj1uR_05n0ZAYlNcPFsGeeOfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinG1u97WGtB2awD1adaxb6LxxsiHe7yn_yfGU0o@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
	<E153A65CADB040459763A66FB5132DB0@Home>
	<AANLkTinhCj5S9SGBj3CZOcMXgtJxh6D_QYlFJMCuHPIo@mail.gmail.com>
	<5FFB2E1B7A5341EF81D315C6D0BDADAD@Home>
Message-ID: <013101cb14c5$b2ba0780$182e1680$@cox.net>

You know the car is small when the seats are LARGE in comparison!

http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye#5483797544292310914

Wish there were some pictures of the engine bay.

Other than the seat looking out of place, a fine automobile!


Paul

-----Original Message-----
I made a really big mistake today.  

Steve Guterman is a new member of the list who lives about 5 miles from me.
I did not know him, but he is restoring a Bugeye that has been in storage
for  many years, so I thought I would check it out.  Big Mistake.  

It looks nice in his pictures, of course
(http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye#), but lots of cars look nice
in pictures and can't meet the eyeball test.  Right?

Right?

Wrong!  Really bad mistake.

This car can meet the magnifying glass test.  It is drop-dead gorgeous, with
all manner of custom touches like a cherry burl dash and custom welded
aluminum grill, etc.  The engine bay is clean enough to serve dinner on, but
it has so many colorful touches that you might have trouble distinguishing
the hoses from the hors d'oeuvres.

I am destroyed.  There is no way I could ever manage the skill to build such
a car.  Now anything I do will pale by comparison.  

I should have known.  Very big, very bad mistake.

Michael Rowe, DPO
_______________________________________________

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 25 18:30:09 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:30:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye owner tired of waiting at the side of the
 road.
In-Reply-To: <0D92CB6446334793BB474CC31A5982A5@Dave>
References: <0D92CB6446334793BB474CC31A5982A5@Dave>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W4592129133B5B9A1B677D9CAC80@phx.gbl>

Question-Is the fuel pump in the front of the car or back by the tank?

> From: derbydave at cox.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:00:28 -0500
> Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye owner tired of waiting at the side of the road.
>
> Here's what I have....
>
> 1959 Bugeye/1275 cc/ New Weber 45 DCOE/ New Delco EP12S Fuel pump.
>
> Here's the problem.
>
> The car runs for 30 min to an hour then stops.  Checked  the fuel line at
the
> carburetor and there is no fuel but I can hear the Delco Electric fuel pump
> running. If I let the car sit for 45 mins to an hour and then it will run
for
> another 30 mins to a hour.
>
> Note: this is my second Delco pump in the last 6 months.
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Fri Jun 25 18:38:56 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:38:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye owner tired of waiting at the side of the
 road.
In-Reply-To: <013001cb14c4$9ea2dc50$dbe894f0$@cox.net>
References: <0D92CB6446334793BB474CC31A5982A5@Dave>
	<013001cb14c4$9ea2dc50$dbe894f0$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiksDr3BfVd5mF5HbQB_9Nuq7NLMf0ytu41-gtZB@mail.gmail.com>

Paul suggestion is a good one especially if you recently replaced the cap
since new caps are not vented.  I would also look at the fuel filter to see
if you are getting and sediment in the tank possible clogging the filter or
parts of the carb.

Steve

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Paul Herder <george.brokaw at cox.net> wrote:

> My first thought is what happens if you remove the gas cap?  Is there a
> BUNCH of vacuum when you open it?  I.e. the pump is sucking as hard as it
> can and gives out at the high vacuum.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Here's what I have....
>
> 1959 Bugeye/1275 cc/ New Weber 45 DCOE/ New Delco EP12S Fuel pump.
>
> Here's the problem.
>
> The car runs for 30 min to an hour then stops.  Checked  the fuel line at
> the carburetor and there is no fuel but I can hear the Delco Electric fuel
> pump running. If I let the car sit for 45 mins to an hour and then it will
> run for another 30 mins to a hour.
>
> Note: this is my second Delco pump in the last 6 months.
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Fri Jun 25 18:51:20 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:51:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye owner tired of waiting at the side of the
 road.
In-Reply-To: <0D92CB6446334793BB474CC31A5982A5@Dave>
References: <0D92CB6446334793BB474CC31A5982A5@Dave>
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Might be a long shot for you but I once had a new lawnmower that ran 
like that.  I took it back to the store and they couldn't figure it 
out.  The mechanic cranked it up, set it out back and let it run.  15 
minutes later he noticed that it stopped.  He checked and there was a 
vacuum in the fuel tank.  He discovered that the gas cap had no vent.

> Here's what I have....
>
> 1959 Bugeye/1275 cc/ New Weber 45 DCOE/ New Delco EP12S Fuel pump.
>
> Here's the problem.
>
> The car runs for 30 min to an hour then stops.  Checked  the fuel line at the
> carburetor and there is no fuel but I can hear the Delco Electric fuel pump
> running. If I let the car sit for 45 mins to an hour and then it will run for
> another 30 mins to a hour.
>
> Note: this is my second Delco pump in the last 6 months.
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From pelliott at innercite.com  Fri Jun 25 20:39:11 2010
From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott)
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:39:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye owner tired of waiting at the side of the
 road.
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiksDr3BfVd5mF5HbQB_9Nuq7NLMf0ytu41-gtZB@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0D92CB6446334793BB474CC31A5982A5@Dave>
	<013001cb14c4$9ea2dc50$dbe894f0$@cox.net>
	<AANLkTiksDr3BfVd5mF5HbQB_9Nuq7NLMf0ytu41-gtZB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010401cb14d8$c3170bb0$49452310$@com>

It's either that or you're vapor locking the carb.  Got the heat shield in
place?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steven Guterman
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:39 PM
To: Paul Herder
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye owner tired of waiting at the side of the
road.

Paul suggestion is a good one especially if you recently replaced the cap
since new caps are not vented.  I would also look at the fuel filter to see
if you are getting and sediment in the tank possible clogging the filter or
parts of the carb.

Steve

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Paul Herder <george.brokaw at cox.net> wrote:

> My first thought is what happens if you remove the gas cap?  Is there a
> BUNCH of vacuum when you open it?  I.e. the pump is sucking as hard as it
> can and gives out at the high vacuum.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Here's what I have....
>
> 1959 Bugeye/1275 cc/ New Weber 45 DCOE/ New Delco EP12S Fuel pump.
>
> Here's the problem.
>
> The car runs for 30 min to an hour then stops.  Checked  the fuel line at
> the carburetor and there is no fuel but I can hear the Delco Electric fuel
> pump running. If I let the car sit for 45 mins to an hour and then it will
> run for another 30 mins to a hour.
>
> Note: this is my second Delco pump in the last 6 months.
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 10:06:10 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:06:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mistake
In-Reply-To: <013101cb14c5$b2ba0780$182e1680$@cox.net>
References: <AANLkTim07iqzlsJx4lZaj1uR_05n0ZAYlNcPFsGeeOfg@mail.gmail.com>
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Your right about the seats, they are the smallest one's I could find (at a
reasonable price) that had a high back. I needed to remove 1/2 the foam from
the bottom cushion to lower the height.

I think Mike is exaggerating a bit, and it is easier for a car to look good
when it just got back on the road after a complete disassembly. Neal Vakay
who lives in Eastport did all of the body work, while I did most of the
mechanical and electrical. The key was not to rush. Neal is a perfectionist
who only does vintage car restorations.  For those on Long Island who want
to contact him his number is 631-653-6149.

Below is a link to an engine picture.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Ev-XetGPVuxUacOqUvquuuZ7mnn2TLLU0JF6ihidrp0?feat=directlink

Steve


On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Paul Herder <george.brokaw at cox.net> wrote:

> You know the car is small when the seats are LARGE in comparison!
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye#5483797544292310914
>
> Wish there were some pictures of the engine bay.
>
> Other than the seat looking out of place, a fine automobile!
>
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> I made a really big mistake today.
>
> Steve Guterman is a new member of the list who lives about 5 miles from me.
> I did not know him, but he is restoring a Bugeye that has been in storage
> for  many years, so I thought I would check it out.  Big Mistake.
>
> It looks nice in his pictures, of course
> (http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye#), but lots of cars look
> nice
> in pictures and can't meet the eyeball test.  Right?
>
> Right?
>
> Wrong!  Really bad mistake.
>
> This car can meet the magnifying glass test.  It is drop-dead gorgeous,
> with
> all manner of custom touches like a cherry burl dash and custom welded
> aluminum grill, etc.  The engine bay is clean enough to serve dinner on,
> but
> it has so many colorful touches that you might have trouble distinguishing
> the hoses from the hors d'oeuvres.
>
> I am destroyed.  There is no way I could ever manage the skill to build
> such
> a car.  Now anything I do will pale by comparison.
>
> I should have known.  Very big, very bad mistake.
>
> Michael Rowe, DPO
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From george.brokaw at cox.net  Sat Jun 26 10:42:45 2010
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:42:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mistake
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Message-ID: <014401cb154e$9ab70870$d0251950$@cox.net>

Steve,

 

Thank you for the link to the engine!  From it I found your other pictures
of your build.  GREAT job there with the rebuild of the race car!

 

I have seen similar seats in a Locost 7 replica that didn't make the car
look so small.  ;^)  I am sort of surprised that you got them in between the
trans tunnel and the doors.   That was the problem I had with my Stalker V6
build.  I ended up with a set of Kirkey drag seats @ 15.5" width and still
had to take a BFH to the passenger side to get it to fit.

 

Paul

 

 

From: Steven Guterman [mailto:an5.sprite at gmail.com] 



Your right about the seats, they are the smallest one's I could find (at a
reasonable price) that had a high back. I needed to remove 1/2 the foam from
the bottom cushion to lower the height.

I think Mike is exaggerating a bit, and it is easier for a car to look good
when it just got back on the road after a complete disassembly. Neal Vakay
who lives in Eastport did all of the body work, while I did most of the
mechanical and electrical. The key was not to rush. Neal is a perfectionist
who only does vintage car restorations.  For those on Long Island who want
to contact him his number is 631-653-6149. 

Below is a link to an engine picture.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Ev-XetGPVuxUacOqUvquuuZ7mnn2TLLU0JF6ihi
drp0?feat=directlink

Steve



On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Paul Herder <george.brokaw at cox.net> wrote:

You know the car is small when the seats are LARGE in comparison!

http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye#5483797544292310914

Wish there were some pictures of the engine bay.

Other than the seat looking out of place, a fine automobile!


Paul


-----Original Message-----
I made a really big mistake today.

Steve Guterman is a new member of the list who lives about 5 miles from me.
I did not know him, but he is restoring a Bugeye that has been in storage
for  many years, so I thought I would check it out.  Big Mistake.

It looks nice in his pictures, of course
(http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye#
<http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye> ), but lots of cars look
nice
in pictures and can't meet the eyeball test.  Right?

Right?

Wrong!  Really bad mistake.

This car can meet the magnifying glass test.  It is drop-dead gorgeous, with
all manner of custom touches like a cherry burl dash and custom welded
aluminum grill, etc.  The engine bay is clean enough to serve dinner on, but
it has so many colorful touches that you might have trouble distinguishing
the hoses from the hors d'oeuvres.

I am destroyed.  There is no way I could ever manage the skill to build such
a car.  Now anything I do will pale by comparison.

I should have known.  Very big, very bad mistake.

Michael Rowe, DPO
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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 26 13:14:31 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 15:14:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Slave hose adapter?
Message-ID: <SNT124-W242AA314CBE41E6AD8D5A4B7C80@phx.gbl>

So, today I visited every parts store in a 50-mile radius trying to buy a
steel line that would from my clutch master cylinder to the slave cylinder
hose, or a steel line and whatever collection of adapters I need to make it
all work together.  The old steel line is too rusty to reuse, and the nuts are
rounded off.



The result of my efforts has been to leave the people behind the parts counter
at stores in three different states scratching their heads.  Either it is not
possible to get any standard fittings to work with the slave cylinder hose and
there's a special adapter available that I don't know about and can't find, or
I've managed to get an incorrectly threaded slave cylinder hose.



What have others done?

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 13:38:55 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:38:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Slave hose adapter?
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W242AA314CBE41E6AD8D5A4B7C80@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W242AA314CBE41E6AD8D5A4B7C80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikld3aloDXTaiVv2hX0pd20nrQ4IjXJLqmmdjMr@mail.gmail.com>

Dunno which car you have but the part is available from several online
sources. You will probably NOT find anything comparable at an auto parts
store.  Try this - #27 I think...

http://ahspares.co.uk/en/products/default.aspx

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>wrote:

> So, today I visited every parts store in a 50-mile radius trying to buy a
> steel line that would from my clutch master cylinder to the slave cylinder
> hose, or a steel line and whatever collection of adapters I need to make it
> all work together.  The old steel line is too rusty to reuse, and the nuts
> are
> rounded off.
>
>
>
> The result of my efforts has been to leave the people behind the parts
> counter
> at stores in three different states scratching their heads.  Either it is
> not
> possible to get any standard fittings to work with the slave cylinder hose
> and
> there's a special adapter available that I don't know about and can't find,
> or
> I've managed to get an incorrectly threaded slave cylinder hose.
>
>
>
> What have others done?

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Jun 26 14:11:08 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 15:11:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Slave hose adapter?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikld3aloDXTaiVv2hX0pd20nrQ4IjXJLqmmdjMr@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-W242AA314CBE41E6AD8D5A4B7C80@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikld3aloDXTaiVv2hX0pd20nrQ4IjXJLqmmdjMr@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C265EDC.30201@justbrits.com>

<< Try this - #27 I think...

http://ahspares.co.uk/en/products/default.aspx  >>

Key fobs, sweatshirts and their ilk have exactly WHAT to do
with clutch hydraulic systems, Jim ???

Ed

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 14:37:48 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 15:37:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Slave hose adapter?
In-Reply-To: <4C265EDC.30201@justbrits.com>
References: <SNT124-W242AA314CBE41E6AD8D5A4B7C80@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTikld3aloDXTaiVv2hX0pd20nrQ4IjXJLqmmdjMr@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C265EDC.30201@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiniLfdsDUE2Z1k3jcDBRhHLD7frRhdY-DxJkEs7@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry!  I assumed people would notice the top of the page where you can
enter "Sprite" and "Clutch" in the search block. That takes you to the parts
explosion for the clutch. Apparently I need to be more explicit for some...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Shop at " Just Brits "
<shop at justbrits.com>wrote:

> << Try this - #27 I think...
>
> http://ahspares.co.uk/en/products/default.aspx  >>
>
> Key fobs, sweatshirts and their ilk have exactly WHAT to do
> with clutch hydraulic systems, Jim ???

From cooper6 at swbell.net  Sat Jun 26 16:39:36 2010
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (MARTIN COOPER)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 17:39:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Mistake
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So who made the grill!!

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Herder
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:43 AM
To: 'Steven Guterman'
Cc: 'Spridget Chat Group'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mistake

Steve,

 

Thank you for the link to the engine!  From it I found your other pictures
of your build.  GREAT job there with the rebuild of the race car!

 

I have seen similar seats in a Locost 7 replica that didn't make the car
look so small.  ;^)  I am sort of surprised that you got them in between the
trans tunnel and the doors.   That was the problem I had with my Stalker V6
build.  I ended up with a set of Kirkey drag seats @ 15.5" width and still
had to take a BFH to the passenger side to get it to fit.

 

Paul

 

 

From: Steven Guterman [mailto:an5.sprite at gmail.com] 



Your right about the seats, they are the smallest one's I could find (at a
reasonable price) that had a high back. I needed to remove 1/2 the foam from
the bottom cushion to lower the height.

I think Mike is exaggerating a bit, and it is easier for a car to look good
when it just got back on the road after a complete disassembly. Neal Vakay
who lives in Eastport did all of the body work, while I did most of the
mechanical and electrical. The key was not to rush. Neal is a perfectionist
who only does vintage car restorations.  For those on Long Island who want
to contact him his number is 631-653-6149. 

Below is a link to an engine picture.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Ev-XetGPVuxUacOqUvquuuZ7mnn2TLLU0JF6ihi
drp0?feat=directlink

Steve



On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Paul Herder <george.brokaw at cox.net> wrote:

You know the car is small when the seats are LARGE in comparison!

http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye#5483797544292310914

Wish there were some pictures of the engine bay.

Other than the seat looking out of place, a fine automobile!


Paul


-----Original Message-----
I made a really big mistake today.

Steve Guterman is a new member of the list who lives about 5 miles from me.
I did not know him, but he is restoring a Bugeye that has been in storage
for  many years, so I thought I would check it out.  Big Mistake.

It looks nice in his pictures, of course
(http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye#
<http://picasaweb.google.com/bealeguter/Bugeye> ), but lots of cars look
nice in pictures and can't meet the eyeball test.  Right?

Right?

Wrong!  Really bad mistake.

This car can meet the magnifying glass test.  It is drop-dead gorgeous, with
all manner of custom touches like a cherry burl dash and custom welded
aluminum grill, etc.  The engine bay is clean enough to serve dinner on, but
it has so many colorful touches that you might have trouble distinguishing
the hoses from the hors d'oeuvres.

I am destroyed.  There is no way I could ever manage the skill to build such
a car.  Now anything I do will pale by comparison.

I should have known.  Very big, very bad mistake.

Michael Rowe, DPO
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Jun 26 16:48:22 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:48:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mistake
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimLsQLFa7A16qCBlYPIXYNFgGVbWsJoDTv4qS3x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim07iqzlsJx4lZaj1uR_05n0ZAYlNcPFsGeeOfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinG1u97WGtB2awD1adaxb6LxxsiHe7yn_yfGU0o@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
	<E153A65CADB040459763A66FB5132DB0@Home>
	<AANLkTinhCj5S9SGBj3CZOcMXgtJxh6D_QYlFJMCuHPIo@mail.gmail.com>
	<5FFB2E1B7A5341EF81D315C6D0BDADAD@Home>
	<013101cb14c5$b2ba0780$182e1680$@cox.net>
	<AANLkTimLsQLFa7A16qCBlYPIXYNFgGVbWsJoDTv4qS3x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <899E2E91B27F422DB72DBFAAF974C7F7@Home>

> I think Mike is exaggerating a bit,

Well, maybe a little.  Does that mean I don't get my commission?

Michael Rowe

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 18:00:10 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 17:00:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Slave hose adapter?
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W242AA314CBE41E6AD8D5A4B7C80@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W242AA314CBE41E6AD8D5A4B7C80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikdpJE4s-gvzRlSIC_HYpp2pgEXeMI5a1rfNhDq@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>wrote:

> So, today I visited every parts store in a 50-mile radius trying to buy
> a.....
>


>   Either it is not possible to get any standard fittings to work with the
> slave cylinder hose and
> there's a special adapter available that I don't know about and can't find,
> or
> I've managed to get an incorrectly threaded slave cylinder hose.
>
>
>
> What have others done?
>

I obtained a braided steel hose from Paul A. with my 5-speed kit.  The local
hot rod shop could have made up (or ordered?) a braided steel line as well.
Fittings are difficult to match for hard steel lines  unless you have the
correct flaring tool.  Been discussed on the list several times....

Hal

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat Jun 26 18:05:15 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 17:05:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mistake
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimLsQLFa7A16qCBlYPIXYNFgGVbWsJoDTv4qS3x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim07iqzlsJx4lZaj1uR_05n0ZAYlNcPFsGeeOfg@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinG1u97WGtB2awD1adaxb6LxxsiHe7yn_yfGU0o@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikBfD6iPSOKiAfqtAJuviLuetLhnRdCxNJ2aEGn@mail.gmail.com>
	<E153A65CADB040459763A66FB5132DB0@Home>
	<AANLkTinhCj5S9SGBj3CZOcMXgtJxh6D_QYlFJMCuHPIo@mail.gmail.com>
	<5FFB2E1B7A5341EF81D315C6D0BDADAD@Home>
	<013101cb14c5$b2ba0780$182e1680$@cox.net>
	<AANLkTimLsQLFa7A16qCBlYPIXYNFgGVbWsJoDTv4qS3x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil9JymE8SRNIE0XX2KpBWEqolXgTpvV0mi5E01j@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>wrote:

>
>
> Below is a link to an engine picture.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Ev-XetGPVuxUacOqUvquuuZ7mnn2TLLU0JF6ihidrp0?feat=directlink
>
> Steve,
How did you get it to run with no spark plug wires?  <G>
Hal

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Jun 26 23:11:30 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:11:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Slave hose adapter?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikdpJE4s-gvzRlSIC_HYpp2pgEXeMI5a1rfNhDq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT124-W242AA314CBE41E6AD8D5A4B7C80@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTikdpJE4s-gvzRlSIC_HYpp2pgEXeMI5a1rfNhDq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W27111417C7877A1C7A4E8CCAC90@phx.gbl>

Those braided hoses from Paul A are still available- I have several from
Paul's shop,  $50.00 plus shipping.I just need to know if you need it for a
slave that had a flex (rubber) hose connected to it (1275 style  or if a steel
line went fully to the slave (948 style)BillM
> Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 17:00:10 -0700
> From: frog.aye at gmail.com
> To: redscirocco at hotmail.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Slave hose adapter?
>
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Mike Eldred
<redscirocco at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> > So, today I visited every parts store in a 50-mile radius trying to buy
> > a.....
> >
>
>
> >   Either it is not possible to get any standard fittings to work with the
> > slave cylinder hose and
> > there's a special adapter available that I don't know about and can't
find,
> > or
> > I've managed to get an incorrectly threaded slave cylinder hose.
> >
> >
> >
> > What have others done?
> >
>
> I obtained a braided steel hose from Paul A. with my 5-speed kit.  The
local
> hot rod shop could have made up (or ordered?) a braided steel line as well.
> Fittings are difficult to match for hard steel lines  unless you have the
> correct flaring tool.  Been discussed on the list several times....
>
> Hal
> _______________________________________________
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 27 09:46:27 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:46:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT for June '10
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W27111417C7877A1C7A4E8CCAC90@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W242AA314CBE41E6AD8D5A4B7C80@phx.gbl>, ,
	<AANLkTikdpJE4s-gvzRlSIC_HYpp2pgEXeMI5a1rfNhDq@mail.gmail.com>,
	<SNT123-W27111417C7877A1C7A4E8CCAC90@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W316F927CFE932E88290994CAC90@phx.gbl>

Easier to just send the
link:http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/688342#Post
688342
BillM
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 09:58:08 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:58:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Guterman's Bugeye in BRG
Message-ID: <AANLkTin5djHfzO7iGhDzryxapN31EeHD3a9kAnYz968t@mail.gmail.com>

Would love to see some engine pics, interior, etc.

The seats tend to over power the look of the car. .  but the comfort factor
must be nice.

Thanks for sending.

Kirk
59 1275

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 12:25:01 2010
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:25:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] HIF4's on my Datsun 210 motor with GX head
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6t_1iygLe04g7HObvKHjrk91N290P3eEbsSV6@mail.gmail.com>

I had this hi performance head and sual SU manifold and Mike from our local
Spridget group had a pair of HIF4's and BillM had a gasket set so....
We got together yesterday and I started pulling the old econo head off my
A15 Datsun motor.
After much cleaning, a bit of 'adjusting' ala angle grinder, 8 inch bench
grinder and other assorted tools of torment we got the new cylinder head and
manifolds and carbs mounted to the motor and torqued down.

Then came the fun part - getting it to run.

At first it was a major smoker - seriously huge clouds of billowing smoke
enveloping the neighborhood.
We fiddled with it a while then I remembered the old setup neede a fuel pump
that had 4 to 6 psi.
I mentioned this and Bill produced a couple other pumps.
We tried one, and at first it seemed to run good, then went downhill.
We swapped in another pump and got it running "good enough" to drive home
(we thought).

I made it a few hundred yards then had to pull over - no good.
Bill said to try richening the carbs, I did that and could get it to limp
along.
It was late and we had all had a long day - a good day, but long.

I made the car limp home. It started running at high rpm, running very rough
at 4k rpm.
I just tried to keep it in 4th and cruise as much as possible.

I went out this morning and turned the key - gas started coming out the
front carb overflow.

I need some HIF4 guru help here, anyone know these carbs well and want to
offer any advice?
You can see a couple pics of the setup here:

http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/688274/Well_my_Midget_made_it_home_Ne#Post688274

http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/21857/filename/Imgp8816.jpg

http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/21858/filename/Imgp8814.jpg

Rick (they do look nice though) Bastedo

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 12:42:53 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:42:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] HIF4's on my Datsun 210 motor with GX head
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik6t_1iygLe04g7HObvKHjrk91N290P3eEbsSV6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik6t_1iygLe04g7HObvKHjrk91N290P3eEbsSV6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimv28j4yVSOjcRuWQsbX-gMRAg7Fcs70f87T41B@mail.gmail.com>

I had an overflow problem with my SU 2s until I adjusted the fuel regulator
to 3 psi.  Not sure what pressure the HIF want but I would first test to see
what pressure you are getting into the carbs, assuming the floats and seats
all look good.

Steve

On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I had this hi performance head and sual SU manifold and Mike from our local
> Spridget group had a pair of HIF4's and BillM had a gasket set so....
> We got together yesterday and I started pulling the old econo head off my
> A15 Datsun motor.
> After much cleaning, a bit of 'adjusting' ala angle grinder, 8 inch bench
> grinder and other assorted tools of torment we got the new cylinder head
> and
> manifolds and carbs mounted to the motor and torqued down.
>
> Then came the fun part - getting it to run.
>
> At first it was a major smoker - seriously huge clouds of billowing smoke
> enveloping the neighborhood.
> We fiddled with it a while then I remembered the old setup neede a fuel
> pump
> that had 4 to 6 psi.
> I mentioned this and Bill produced a couple other pumps.
> We tried one, and at first it seemed to run good, then went downhill.
> We swapped in another pump and got it running "good enough" to drive home
> (we thought).
>
> I made it a few hundred yards then had to pull over - no good.
> Bill said to try richening the carbs, I did that and could get it to limp
> along.
> It was late and we had all had a long day - a good day, but long.
>
> I made the car limp home. It started running at high rpm, running very
> rough
> at 4k rpm.
> I just tried to keep it in 4th and cruise as much as possible.
>
> I went out this morning and turned the key - gas started coming out the
> front carb overflow.
>
> I need some HIF4 guru help here, anyone know these carbs well and want to
> offer any advice?
> You can see a couple pics of the setup here:
>
>
> http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/688274/Well_my_Midget_made_it_home_Ne#Post688274
>
>
> http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/21857/filename/Imgp8816.jpg
>
>
> http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/21858/filename/Imgp8814.jpg
>
> Rick (they do look nice though) Bastedo
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Jun 27 15:10:04 2010
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:10:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] HIF4's on my Datsun 210 motor with GX head
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimv28j4yVSOjcRuWQsbX-gMRAg7Fcs70f87T41B@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik6t_1iygLe04g7HObvKHjrk91N290P3eEbsSV6@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimv28j4yVSOjcRuWQsbX-gMRAg7Fcs70f87T41B@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinctpxS_d82NlKiX7y9l0hPFXj1PL4kZ0UF5INo@mail.gmail.com>

If you look at my pictures, notice there is a fuel feed hose that loops
around from the front to the back carb?
I'm looking and looking and looking and not seeing it until just now, the
things have a hose that goes between the two carbs at the front, supposedly
to feed fuel from the front to the back carb.

So why does this fuel line from the pump go to both carbs I was wondering?
I look and look at the diagram in the book and it just hits me - there's a
fuel feed hose to the front carb but the back only has "breather pipe" and
"vent hose" connections on the right side - no fuel feed in over there as
the fuel feed in is on the left side of that carb!!

So - what happens when you feed fuel into the carb via the 'vent tube' or
the 'breather pipe'?
Whatever it is, I will bet it isn't good!!!

I'm off to make my stuff look more like the book - wish me luck!!

Rick (too much gas in the wrong places) Bastedo


On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>wrote:

> I had an overflow problem with my SU 2s until I adjusted the fuel regulator
> to 3 psi.  Not sure what pressure the HIF want but I would first test to see
> what pressure you are getting into the carbs, assuming the floats and seats
> all look good.
>
> Steve
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had this hi performance head and sual SU manifold and Mike from our
>> local
>> Spridget group had a pair of HIF4's and BillM had a gasket set so....
>> We got together yesterday and I started pulling the old econo head off my
>> A15 Datsun motor.
>> After much cleaning, a bit of 'adjusting' ala angle grinder, 8 inch bench
>> grinder and other assorted tools of torment we got the new cylinder head
>> and
>> manifolds and carbs mounted to the motor and torqued down.
>>
>> Then came the fun part - getting it to run.
>>
>> At first it was a major smoker - seriously huge clouds of billowing smoke
>> enveloping the neighborhood.
>> We fiddled with it a while then I remembered the old setup neede a fuel
>> pump
>> that had 4 to 6 psi.
>> I mentioned this and Bill produced a couple other pumps.
>> We tried one, and at first it seemed to run good, then went downhill.
>> We swapped in another pump and got it running "good enough" to drive home
>> (we thought).
>>
>> I made it a few hundred yards then had to pull over - no good.
>> Bill said to try richening the carbs, I did that and could get it to limp
>> along.
>> It was late and we had all had a long day - a good day, but long.
>>
>> I made the car limp home. It started running at high rpm, running very
>> rough
>> at 4k rpm.
>> I just tried to keep it in 4th and cruise as much as possible.
>>
>> I went out this morning and turned the key - gas started coming out the
>> front carb overflow.
>>
>> I need some HIF4 guru help here, anyone know these carbs well and want to
>> offer any advice?
>> You can see a couple pics of the setup here:
>>
>>
>> http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/688274/Well_my_Midget_made_it_home_Ne#Post688274
>>
>>
>> http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/21857/filename/Imgp8816.jpg
>>
>>
>> http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/21858/filename/Imgp8814.jpg
>>
>> Rick (they do look nice though) Bastedo
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Jun 27 17:20:53 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:20:53 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye owner tired of waiting at the side of the
 road.
Message-ID: <8eaa2.565b5124.395936d5@aol.com>

I'd go with that in traffic but for open highway use I'd say the problem is 
 something else + hard to get a heat shield with a 45 DCOE which is why you 
put a  thermal coating (special paint/finish) on the intake.
 
In a message dated 26/06/2010 03:47:07 GMT Daylight Time,  
pelliott at innercite.com writes:

It's  either that or you're vapor locking the carb.  Got the heat shield  in
place?

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 27 20:35:54 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:35:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata 5 speed in a Spridget?
Message-ID: <4C280A8A.7020605@comcast.net>

Has anyone given any thought to this conversion?
The kid up the street is into Miatas and let me borrow one of his spare 
trannys. I can see right off the bat that the shifter linkage needs to 
be shortened by 8" but it looks do-able. I have not tried any lining up 
of the lumps yet and the drive shaft would have to be shortened but 
there would be no shortage of 5 or 6 speed trannys if this can be done.
Has anyone done any work in this area yet?
I do not have any machining capabilities here at home but I will see if 
maybe I can come up with a wooden adapter for a start.
As soon as I bring my next Midget tub home for it's restore, I'll see 
how it fits in the tunnel and if I can adapt it somehow.

Just thinking out loud for now.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun 27 20:59:01 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 19:59:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata 5 speed in a Spridget?
In-Reply-To: <4C280A8A.7020605@comcast.net>
References: <4C280A8A.7020605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <101514284.20100627195901@pacifier.com>

Hello Frank,

     One of the last projects that Paul A. was working on was just
     that, a Miata tranny into a Spridget/Morris. He told me to keep
     it under my hat at the time, a couple of years ago.  I
     guess I can tell the story now.  He had a
     Sprite that kept getting moved around his yard/shop/carport and I
     think no one else knew why he kept it. Turns out, it's not a
     simple fix and won't go without cutting up the tunnel or cross
     bracing, or other heavy mods, making it not "kit" friendly, and
     he had given it up as a business opportunity. 
-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 27 21:05:27 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 23:05:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata 5 speed in a Spridget?
In-Reply-To: <101514284.20100627195901@pacifier.com>
References: <4C280A8A.7020605@comcast.net>
	<101514284.20100627195901@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <4C281177.3000308@comcast.net>

On 6/27/2010 10:59 PM, Bill L wrote:
> Hello Frank,
>
>       One of the last projects that Paul A. was working on was just
>       that, a Miata tranny into a Spridget/Morris. He told me to keep
>       it under my hat at the time, a couple of years ago.  I
>       guess I can tell the story now.  He had a
>       Sprite that kept getting moved around his yard/shop/carport and I
>       think no one else knew why he kept it. Turns out, it's not a
>       simple fix and won't go without cutting up the tunnel or cross
>       bracing, or other heavy mods, making it not "kit" friendly, and
>       he had given it up as a business opportunity.

Thank you Bill
Saves me a lot of grief and I can get the Miata tranny out of my garage.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 27 21:14:02 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:14:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Miata 5 speed in a Spridget?
In-Reply-To: <4C280A8A.7020605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <272353.65817.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 6/27/10, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Just thinking out loud for now.

I was sworn to secrecy a few years ago, but Paul A. had started this in 2005 or so. He said it looked viable - we never spoke much after that about it.

Ron

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sun Jun 27 21:23:53 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:23:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vapor lock question
In-Reply-To: <4C280A8A.7020605@comcast.net>
References: <4C280A8A.7020605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001101cb1671$55f360c0$01da2240$@rr.com>

Hi all-

I'm trying to determine if I was just on the edge of a vapor lock problem.

After driving about a half hour in 85 degree high humidity stop and go
traffic, I felt the car stumble hard upon acceleration.  

1275, good gas, no backfiring or spitting.  Electric pump 300 miles old I
figure along with cap and wires.  Gas cap is OK but I know it's a little
loose so no vacuum problems there

Shut the car down for about 5 minutes with hood up and all was well after
that. (checked vital fluids, etc to make sure)
Heat shield is in place, manifold to exhaust gasket doughnut is good and not
spewing out the edges.  Anything more I can isolate and insulate?

Ran great after that.  15 miles on the interstate home was actually
enjoyable.


Thanks
Chris

1275 in a 66 MKIII

From midget at maxengland.com  Mon Jun 28 04:22:06 2010
From: midget at maxengland.com (Max Slegers)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:22:06 +0200
Subject: [Spridgets] battery not charging. Midget MK3
Message-ID: <4C2877CE.9050704@maxengland.com>

Hi everyone,

I have a battery charging issue on my 1968 midget. The battery doesn't 
really charge, or al least not enough. Here are the symptoms:

At idle (900 rpm), the ignition light is on (but dim), which I assume is 
normal with generators. When cruising or with revs over 1000rpm it is 
off (or maybe it is so dim that I can really not see it at all). After a 
drive during the day the battery has charged very little and I never 
know whether I'll be able to crank up the engine afterwards or if the 
battery will be too low.

When driving at night with lights on, the ignition light is sometimes 
off and sometimes on. It can remain on, or off, for a few minutes, then 
change. It sometimes also stays either on or off for the whole drive. 
When on, the ignition light gets brighter the more I accelerate. After 
driving at night with lights on, I am nearly sure the battery will be 
too low to restart.

The battery is not the cause: I charged it for a night and was able to 
drive without problems for a few days afterwards... until it came flat 
again.
I tested the engine earth connection and it seems good.
I tested the current regulator according to the Haynes workshop manual 
(that is with a lead between D and F terminals clipped together and the 
generator as far as I remember) various times and was able to set it to 
the values they recommend.
I have been having this problem for some time and recently replaced the 
generator with a spare one I had: same problem. The charcoals look good.
The belt also looks tight. Maybe I should try to tighten it even more, 
but I have the feeling the problem does not come from there.

Any ideas welcome :-)

Max

From chuck.endicott at verizon.net  Mon Jun 28 07:03:58 2010
From: chuck.endicott at verizon.net (Chuck Endicott)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:03:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Listed My 1960 Bugeye on eBay
Message-ID: <AANLkTinvFJjd-nkte9BTZCbk0qLupMsvY_XO7_GpuOun@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

For any of you that may have been interested in my 1960 Bugeye with the
1608cc Fiat engine and 5 speed transmission it's now on eBay.  I put it on
last night and had a reserve set on it but this morning I came to the cold
reality that it just needs to go.  My other Bugeye that I can drive is in
the back shed and the only reasonable way to start driving it again is to
get rid of this one to free up space in the garage.  Right now the high bid
is $338.  I couldn't just remove the reserve so I set it to $339 so the next
bidder will be a winner (hopefully the final bid will be a bit higher).
Anyhow, it will be sold next weekend.  Here's the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150461308739&viewitem
=

Chuck

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 28 09:07:01 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:07:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Listed My 1960 Bugeye on eBay
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinvFJjd-nkte9BTZCbk0qLupMsvY_XO7_GpuOun@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinvFJjd-nkte9BTZCbk0qLupMsvY_XO7_GpuOun@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w9393631430005FBC80252C2CA0@phx.gbl>

Come on Frank,

You know you'd LOVE to have an Italian hearted Sprite!!
Be a weekend project for you.
:-)

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 09:03:58 -0400
> From: chuck.endicott at verizon.net
> To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Listed My 1960 Bugeye on eBay
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> For any of you that may have been interested in my 1960 Bugeye with the
> 1608cc Fiat engine and 5 speed transmission it's now on eBay.  I put it on
> last night and had a reserve set on it but this morning I came to the cold
> reality that it just needs to go.  My other Bugeye that I can drive is in
> the back shed and the only reasonable way to start driving it again is to
> get rid of this one to free up space in the garage.  Right now the high bid
> is $338.  I couldn't just remove the reserve so I set it to $339 so the
next
> bidder will be a winner (hopefully the final bid will be a bit higher).
> Anyhow, it will be sold next weekend.  Here's the link:
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150461308739&vi
ewitem
> =
>
> Chuck

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From dwgwater at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 28 10:28:20 2010
From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:28:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] battery not charging. Midget MK3
In-Reply-To: <4C2877CE.9050704@maxengland.com>
References: <4C2877CE.9050704@maxengland.com>
Message-ID: <BLU147-W17741A5F426675ECC751D7CECA0@phx.gbl>

Mke sure all the contacts, particularly at the regulator, are clean and shiny.
Corrosion causes a voltage drop.  Add up a couple voltage drops and pretty
soon you're well below the 14.2 volts you need to charge the battery.



http://www.madelectrical.com/electricaltech/howitworks.shtml



Dave



> Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:22:06 +0200
> From: midget at maxengland.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] battery not charging. Midget MK3
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a battery charging issue on my 1968 midget. The battery doesn't
> really charge, or al least not enough. Here are the symptoms:
>
> At idle (900 rpm), the ignition light is on (but dim), which I assume is
> normal with generators. When cruising or with revs over 1000rpm it is
> off (or maybe it is so dim that I can really not see it at all). After a
> drive during the day the battery has charged very little and I never
> know whether I'll be able to crank up the engine afterwards or if the
> battery will be too low.
>
> When driving at night with lights on, the ignition light is sometimes
> off and sometimes on. It can remain on, or off, for a few minutes, then
> change. It sometimes also stays either on or off for the whole drive.
> When on, the ignition light gets brighter the more I accelerate. After
> driving at night with lights on, I am nearly sure the battery will be
> too low to restart.
>
> The battery is not the cause: I charged it for a night and was able to
> drive without problems for a few days afterwards... until it came flat
> again.
> I tested the engine earth connection and it seems good.
> I tested the current regulator according to the Haynes workshop manual
> (that is with a lead between D and F terminals clipped together and the
> generator as far as I remember) various times and was able to set it to
> the values they recommend.
> I have been having this problem for some time and recently replaced the
> generator with a spare one I had: same problem. The charcoals look good.
> The belt also looks tight. Maybe I should try to tighten it even more,
> but I have the feeling the problem does not come from there.
>
> Any ideas welcome :-)
>
> Max
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From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 28 16:25:59 2010
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:25:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Tool Kit
Message-ID: <141520.26133.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

My chances of ever having my car judged at Concours again are slim so I am
selling my complete tool kit on e-Bay in case any forum members are
interested.  Doug    ....o~'o
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-Bugeye-Sprite-Tool-Kit-AN5-501-4
2199-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa2914359QQitemZ320555008857QQptZMotorsQ5fC
arQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun 28 16:40:46 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 15:40:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Tool Kit
In-Reply-To: <141520.26133.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <141520.26133.qm@web63501.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <325359CB76E8448892FF8B7CA8942243@spider>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320555008857>
&item=320555008857

 

============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Altman
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 3:26 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Tool Kit

 

My chances of ever having my car judged at Concours again are slim so I am

selling my complete tool kit on e-Bay in case any forum members are

interested.  Doug    ....o~'o

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-Bugeye-Sprite-Tool-Kit-AN5-501-
4

2199-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4aa2914359QQitemZ320555008857QQptZMotorsQ5f
C

arQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

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From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 28 19:17:45 2010
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 18:17:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Tool Kit
Message-ID: <526056.61317.qm@web63507.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Per Ed's request.  Sorry about that.  Doug    ....o~'o
 
 
http://tinyurl.com/24s4hyk

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jun 29 06:49:31 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:49:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Future Parking solved. Very little LBC
Message-ID: <4C29EBDB.2060104@wi.net>

This is a pretty neat thing.  If they built one for lbcs you could get 
almost twice as many.  Hate to think what might happen if it 
malfunctioned, however.  A person could go Hung(a)ry!   ;-) 
                                                          "Nothing can 
go wrong...go wrong...go wrong...go wrong..."

http://www.woehr.de/en/projekte/budapest_m730/index.htm


Dave W.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 08:27:38 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:27:38 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Future Parking solved. Very little LBC
In-Reply-To: <4C29EBDB.2060104@wi.net>
References: <4C29EBDB.2060104@wi.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimLVBxP_P6722BXdhS8CcH_XQQ9YXpKNKsy-t_j@mail.gmail.com>

Nice looking driver, eh?
Reminds me of a yacht club marina.


On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:
> This is a pretty neat thing.  If they built one for lbcs you could get
> almost twice as many.  Hate to think what might happen if it malfunctioned,
> however.  A person could go Hung(a)ry!   ;-)
>                          "Nothing can go wrong...go wrong...go wrong...go
> wrong..."
>
> http://www.woehr.de/en/projekte/budapest_m730/index.htm
>
>
> Dave W.
> _______________________________________________
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 29 08:31:02 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 07:31:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
Message-ID: <697921.12100.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am getting close to having one of my cars ready for paint, and I would like to do it myself as I have in the past. I am going to be stealthy and more cautious than ever before, and I will have accomplished my goal if no one knows I have painted. There is lots of info on the web about building a temporary paint booth, but haven't found any original thinking about how to handle the exhaust. I thought I would throw this idea out to the great minds on this list. I am making good use of Frank's bong design for my blast cabinet, and wondered if a larger version might be effective at removing some of the danger from the solvents. Overspray can be collected pretty well with furnace filters, and I am using an HVLP gun. I would mount a furnace blower above a 55 Gal. drum with the exhaust ducted to the bottom of the barrel, and have enough baffling to maintain a water level. I am working on sourcing an explosion proof motor for the blower, and the whole setup
 will be on wheels inside my shop. I will be well protected with a fresh air mask, but my concern is that someone else could be hurt with a snoot full of these urethane fumes. Should I try to design a carbon filter for the drum instead of using a water bong? Is there another way to accomplish this? Any suggestions are welcome that will allow me to do this at home safely. 
Thanks,
John
Fogelsville, PA

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 09:13:27 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:13:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Future Parking solved. Very little LBC
In-Reply-To: <4C29EBDB.2060104@wi.net>
References: <4C29EBDB.2060104@wi.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimX79owA2G43w5uqlNLTuccutt7wEi42ollJ5Jk@mail.gmail.com>

Very neat, can I get one for house!!

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> This is a pretty neat thing.  If they built one for lbcs you could get
> almost twice as many.  Hate to think what might happen if it malfunctioned,
> however.  A person could go Hung(a)ry!   ;-)
>                          "Nothing can go wrong...go wrong...go wrong...go
> wrong..."
>
> http://www.woehr.de/en/projekte/budapest_m730/index.htm
>
>
> Dave W.
>
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From kmwerner at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 11:16:14 2010
From: kmwerner at gmail.com (Kyle Werner)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 13:16:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Future Parking solved. Very little LBC
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimX79owA2G43w5uqlNLTuccutt7wEi42ollJ5Jk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C29EBDB.2060104@wi.net>
	<AANLkTimX79owA2G43w5uqlNLTuccutt7wEi42ollJ5Jk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilSuduc4q8s2Ao8r-7WCpXQyMgYazZBNwJZN2lx@mail.gmail.com>

Four stories of underground parking at my house....now that'd be something!

From abcoz at hky.com  Tue Jun 29 12:01:58 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:01:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <697921.12100.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <697921.12100.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1131640083614C52BC1D36F11BA57A68@OwnerPC>

John,
I painted a car two years ago (and I have to finish it one of these days) in 
my workshop.  Using PPG urethane enamel, and a new respirator I got at my 
local autobody supply shop.  You don't need no stinkin' paint booth.  With 
an HVLP spray gun, there's shockingly little overspray.  It was the first 
time I used HVLP and I was totally unprepared for how little overspray there 
is.  The biggest problem I had was my goggles fogging up, which, combined 
with not enough light, made for plenty of wet sanding work after the paint 
dried.
After each coat of paint, I simply opened the shop windows & turned on a 
large fan, which exhausted the fumes in about 30 min.  The cats were kinda 
pissed at me for taking over their home and not letting them back in all 
day, but they eventually got over it.
Oh, yeah, I almost forgot: I sort of converted my shop into a spray booth by 
hanging visqueen from ceiling to floor all around the shop.  This kept dust 
and cat hair contamination away from the paint.
Bottom line is that the PPG product can be safely applied while using a 
respirator without a fresh air supply, IF you are using HVLP technology. 
I've always been a little bit goofy, but no more than normal after the 
above-described painting episode.   Since the poor light caused me to lay 
down some orange peel on a few panels (on the stuff I could see well, I got 
beautiful results, with no need for anything but a final buffing), I will 
have to repaint some panels, when I finally get time to resume work on that 
particular project (a '73 Midget).
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 10:31 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)


>I am getting close to having one of my cars ready for paint, and I would 
>like to do it myself as I have in the past. I am going to be stealthy and 
>more cautious than ever before, and I will have accomplished my goal if no 
>one knows I have painted. There is lots of info on the web about building a 
>temporary paint booth, but haven't found any original thinking about how to 
>handle the exhaust. I thought I would throw this idea out to the great 
>minds on this list. I am making good use of Frank's bong design for my 
>blast cabinet, and wondered if a larger version might be effective at 
>removing some of the danger from the solvents. Overspray can be collected 
>pretty well with furnace filters, and I am using an HVLP gun. I would mount 
>a furnace blower above a 55 Gal. drum with the exhaust ducted to the bottom 
>of the barrel, and have enough baffling to maintain a water level. I am 
>working on sourcing an explosion proof motor for the blower, and the whole 
>setup
> will be on wheels inside my shop. I will be well protected with a fresh 
> air mask, but my concern is that someone else could be hurt with a snoot 
> full of these urethane fumes. Should I try to design a carbon filter for 
> the drum instead of using a water bong? Is there another way to accomplish 
> this? Any suggestions are welcome that will allow me to do this at home 
> safely.
> Thanks,
> John
> Fogelsville, PA

From lists at dinospider.com  Tue Jun 29 12:31:11 2010
From: lists at dinospider.com (Mike Rambour)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:31:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <697921.12100.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <697921.12100.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C2A3BEF.8000300@dinospider.com>

  Seems like overkill to me for only one car.  Where I live I am legally
allowed to paint 2 cars per year and this is S. Calif. where there are
new rules are against you every morning you wake up.  Last car I did, I
closed off part of my garage with plastic sheeting and hosed down as
much as I could and sprayed the car.   I used a fresh air supply
(HobbyAir) to breathe clean fresh air and I had no problems.

     mike

On 06/29/2010 07:31 AM, fastvee wrote:
> I am getting close to having one of my cars ready for paint, and I would
like to do it myself as I have in the past. I am going to be stealthy and more
cautious than ever before, and I will have accomplished my goal if no one
knows I have painted. There is lots of info on the web about building a
temporary paint booth, but haven't found any original thinking about how to
handle the exhaust. I thought I would throw this idea out to the great minds
on this list. I am making good use of Frank's bong design for my blast
cabinet, and wondered if a larger version might be effective at removing some
of the danger from the solvents. Overspray can be collected pretty well with
furnace filters, and I am using an HVLP gun. I would mount a furnace blower
above a 55 Gal. drum with the exhaust ducted to the bottom of the barrel, and
have enough baffling to maintain a water level. I am working on sourcing an
explosion proof motor for the blower, and the whole setup
>   will be on wheels inside my shop. I will be well protected with a fresh
air mask, but my concern is that someone else could be hurt with a snoot full
of these urethane fumes. Should I try to design a carbon filter for the drum
instead of using a water bong? Is there another way to accomplish this? Any
suggestions are welcome that will allow me to do this at home safely.
> Thanks,
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 29 16:17:50 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:17:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
Message-ID: <C273FD80F3214FA6A13D44F439F0A8F1@HomePC>

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/27/automobiles/27TELEMETRY.html?nl=automobiles
&emc=wheelsema4


While I applaud the ingenuity that goes into these telemetry systems, I can't
help but think that Fangio, and even a driver's driver as recent as Senna,
would be turning over in their respective graves at the thought of this.  As
this stuff progresses, more and more the driver becomes a smaller part of the
equation.  That's a shame.

LAD

From refisk at chartermi.net  Tue Jun 29 16:32:37 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:32:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
In-Reply-To: <C273FD80F3214FA6A13D44F439F0A8F1@HomePC>
References: <C273FD80F3214FA6A13D44F439F0A8F1@HomePC>
Message-ID: <CA6F42EA4F134BF3829D807BF41264E5@RickPC>

The guys today more or less point and shoot - the cars practically drive 
themselves.  Most F1 races are a parade  The finishing order is often very 
close to the starting order.  My vote is to remove all of the computers and 
the telemetry and make the drivers actually drive the car.

Fangio won five world championships back when the driver actually drove. 
And Fangio never drove a Grand Prix car until he was 37 years old.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:17 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts


>
> While I applaud the ingenuity that goes into these telemetry systems, I 
> can't
> help but think that Fangio, and even a driver's driver as recent as Senna,
> would be turning over in their respective graves at the thought of this. 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 29 18:44:27 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:44:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <697921.12100.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <697921.12100.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C2A936B.30609@comcast.net>

On 6/29/2010 10:31 AM, fastvee wrote:
> I am getting close to having one of my cars ready for paint,

Hose out the garage, what ever you can the day before. Walls, floor, 
overhead door, etc.
De-Dust it as best as you can.
Then hang plastic (I even gave up on that when the plastic stuck to the 
fresh paint once) but it helps keep the dust down.
De-bug! Spray bug juice once the doors are closed and before your final 
cleaning and tack ragging. One moth will crawl from the hood to the 
trunk before it dies on the new paint.
I have a cheap fan in one window and open the window across the garage 
just a little for positive ventilation. Low speed on the fan doesn't 
cause as much dust or dried airborne paint to fly across the wet paint.
A 3M respirator and I squirt the car.
There are fumes, mostly inside the garage and on the fan side of the 
garage but it should only take an hour or so to give it several coats.
Clean the gun with the respirator on while the overspray settles and 
walk away for another 30 minutes.
Go back, check out your work, shut off the fan, and the fumes should be 
gone.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun 29 18:53:15 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:53:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
In-Reply-To: <C273FD80F3214FA6A13D44F439F0A8F1@HomePC>
References: <C273FD80F3214FA6A13D44F439F0A8F1@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4C2A957B.3090906@justbrits.com>

Having just read the [sic] Article, LAD......

<< I can't help but think that Fangio, and even a driver's driver as 
recent as
Senna, would be turning over in their respective graves at the thought 
of this.>>

I would have to say "at a higher RPM then ANY A-Series motor!!


<quote>
Were only allowed to take 45 mechanics and engineers to each race.
</quote>

Ah, " poor babies!! "

Course I am "sure" you went to the Nationwide race at R.A.
last weekend, right Larry ?? LOL !!!

<Quote>
It is the driver whos feeling the grip and the balance and knows the 
conditions,
so you have to present him with the information and rely on him to make the
calls, Mr. Williams said.
</Quote>

WHAT "driver"?? They are only lame 'pilots' <G><G><G> !!!

SAD, VERY SAD and a REAL "shame".

Ed

From jdinnis at gmail.com  Tue Jun 29 20:03:35 2010
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:03:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
In-Reply-To: <CA6F42EA4F134BF3829D807BF41264E5@RickPC>
References: <C273FD80F3214FA6A13D44F439F0A8F1@HomePC>
	<CA6F42EA4F134BF3829D807BF41264E5@RickPC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhTiTUbe23_SV-dZ5U8FjXcjxhP5ba5esKio5N@mail.gmail.com>

That's why I like IRL.  They have telemetry, but nothing that can be
considered a "driver aid".  No ABS, No Traction Control, there are
suspension adjustments, but they are all manual.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
> The guys today more or less point and shoot - the cars practically drive
> themselves.  Most F1 races are a parade  The finishing order is often very
> close to the starting order.  My vote is to remove all of the computers and
> the telemetry and make the drivers actually drive the car.
>
> Fangio won five world championships back when the driver actually drove.
And
> Fangio never drove a Grand Prix car until he was 37 years old.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels"
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:17 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
>
>
>>
>> While I applaud the ingenuity that goes into these telemetry systems, I
>> can't
>> help but think that Fangio, and even a driver's driver as recent as Senna,
>> would be turning over in their respective graves at the thought of this.
>
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 29 21:13:02 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 23:13:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <4C2A936B.30609@comcast.net>
References: <697921.12100.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C2A936B.30609@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2E8D8C6BA5C54EDA8CBA153697B77359@blackbox2>

I did pretty much what Frank did.

Cleaned the garage, threw plastic drop cloth over boxes & stuff I could'nt
move.

I then mounted an old fan in the garage window to exhaust.

I also opened the door from the house to the garage to allow some inflow of
fresh air.

Shot with an HVLP gun.  Wore a dual filter mask and took breaks from the
fumes.

Make sure you cover yourself & your hair.

I didn't have any trouble with bugs, but the bug bomb is a good idea.   

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 30 05:58:03 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 04:58:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <2E8D8C6BA5C54EDA8CBA153697B77359@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <688048.67815.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I appreciate all of the suggestions, and what I have heard is the way I've
done it myself, although last I painted a whole car was 6 yrs.ago. I take
enough precautions for myself, and wanted to be progressive on safety for two
reasons. My furry friend is always sitting in the yard, and I have a friend
that still has respiratory problems from when she entered a shop door and
walked into the mist from touch up work nearby. Some people are sensitive to
the solvents and this was a very serious issue for her. I can imagine the same
thing happening to a neighbor, and I have a neighbor who is fussy. I only have
a 20' radius outside of the door where I will place my blower. I plan to do a
lot of work to my fleet and I don't want anyone making trouble for me. I have
been called a worry wort, but I like to think it is just being considerate and
proper planning. Perhaps I've over-estimated the problem, but I haven't used
HVLP on a whole car paint job yet.
Thanks,
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Tue, 6/29/10, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] (no subject)
To: "'fastvee'" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 11:13 PM

I did pretty much what Frank did.

Cleaned the garage, threw plastic drop cloth over boxes & stuff I could'nt
move.

I then mounted an old fan in the garage window to exhaust.

I also opened the door from the house to the garage to allow some inflow of
fresh air.

Shot with an HVLP gun.  Wore a dual filter mask and took breaks from the
fumes.

Make sure you cover yourself & your hair.

I didn't have any trouble with bugs, but the bug bomb is a good idea.   

From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Wed Jun 30 07:38:08 2010
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:38:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinhTiTUbe23_SV-dZ5U8FjXcjxhP5ba5esKio5N@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C273FD80F3214FA6A13D44F439F0A8F1@HomePC>
	<CA6F42EA4F134BF3829D807BF41264E5@RickPC>
	<AANLkTinhTiTUbe23_SV-dZ5U8FjXcjxhP5ba5esKio5N@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <024601cb1859$7ba555a0$72f000e0$@net>

F1 cars do not have ABS or traction control. Talk about gimmicks, "push to
pass button". IRL is a spec class. Every car is a Dallara chassis with a
Honda motor and Firestone tires. All the same = no technical innovation. 
Herb Miller  

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:04 PM
To: Rick Fisk
Cc: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts

That's why I like IRL.  They have telemetry, but nothing that can be
considered a "driver aid".  No ABS, No Traction Control, there are
suspension adjustments, but they are all manual.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
> The guys today more or less point and shoot - the cars practically drive
> themselves.  Most F1 races are a parade  The finishing order is often very
> close to the starting order.  My vote is to remove all of the computers
and
> the telemetry and make the drivers actually drive the car.
>
> Fangio won five world championships back when the driver actually drove.
And
> Fangio never drove a Grand Prix car until he was 37 years old.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels"
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:17 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
>
>
>>
>> While I applaud the ingenuity that goes into these telemetry systems, I
>> can't
>> help but think that Fangio, and even a driver's driver as recent as
Senna,
>> would be turning over in their respective graves at the thought of this.
>
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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 07:56:28 2010
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 08:56:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
In-Reply-To: <024601cb1859$7ba555a0$72f000e0$@net>
References: <C273FD80F3214FA6A13D44F439F0A8F1@HomePC>
	<CA6F42EA4F134BF3829D807BF41264E5@RickPC>
	<AANLkTinhTiTUbe23_SV-dZ5U8FjXcjxhP5ba5esKio5N@mail.gmail.com>
	<024601cb1859$7ba555a0$72f000e0$@net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSMYffgTaaGDyjqpQOV0H0_uPNAjhGdDznqF9X@mail.gmail.com>

You are correct about ABS, but on the other, I think you are mistaken.
 F1 cars DO have traction control.
http://www.f1technical.net/articles/7
http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/understanding_the_sport/5278.html

IRL is a DRIVER's race.  It is about driver skill on a level playing
field, where you can't 'buy' a championship.  To me that's racing.  If
technical innovation and big money are the goal, lets get rid of the
drivers all together and have a series where the cars are all driven
by computer.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Herbert Miller <hgmiller3 at qwest.net> wrote:
> F1 cars do not have ABS or traction control. Talk about gimmicks, "push to
> pass button". IRL is a spec class. Every car is a Dallara chassis with a
> Honda motor and Firestone tires. All the same = no technical innovation.
> Herb Miller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:04 PM
> To: Rick Fisk
> Cc: Spridgets List
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
>
> That's why I like IRL.  They have telemetry, but nothing that can be
> considered a "driver aid".  No ABS, No Traction Control, there are
> suspension adjustments, but they are all manual.
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
>> The guys today more or less point and shoot - the cars practically drive
>> themselves.  Most F1 races are a parade  The finishing order is often very
>> close to the starting order.  My vote is to remove all of the computers
> and
>> the telemetry and make the drivers actually drive the car.
>>
>> Fangio won five world championships back when the driver actually drove.
> And
>> Fangio never drove a Grand Prix car until he was 37 years old.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels"
> <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:17 PM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
>>
>>
>>>
>>> While I applaud the ingenuity that goes into these telemetry systems, I
>>> can't
>>> help but think that Fangio, and even a driver's driver as recent as
> Senna,
>>> would be turning over in their respective graves at the thought of this.
>>
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From stevegar at verizon.net  Wed Jun 30 08:41:10 2010
From: stevegar at verizon.net (Steve)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:41:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSMYffgTaaGDyjqpQOV0H0_uPNAjhGdDznqF9X@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C273FD80F3214FA6A13D44F439F0A8F1@HomePC>
	<CA6F42EA4F134BF3829D807BF41264E5@RickPC>
	<AANLkTinhTiTUbe23_SV-dZ5U8FjXcjxhP5ba5esKio5N@mail.gmail.com>
	<024601cb1859$7ba555a0$72f000e0$@net>
	<AANLkTinSMYffgTaaGDyjqpQOV0H0_uPNAjhGdDznqF9X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005101cb1862$484eda60$d8ec8f20$@net>

Traction control was banned in F1 in 2008.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:56 AM
To: Herbert Miller
Cc: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts

You are correct about ABS, but on the other, I think you are mistaken.
 F1 cars DO have traction control.
http://www.f1technical.net/articles/7
http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/understanding_the_sport/5278.html

IRL is a DRIVER's race.  It is about driver skill on a level playing
field, where you can't 'buy' a championship.  To me that's racing.  If
technical innovation and big money are the goal, lets get rid of the
drivers all together and have a series where the cars are all driven
by computer.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Herbert Miller <hgmiller3 at qwest.net> wrote:
> F1 cars do not have ABS or traction control. Talk about gimmicks, "push to
> pass button". IRL is a spec class. Every car is a Dallara chassis with a
> Honda motor and Firestone tires. All the same = no technical innovation.
> Herb Miller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 9:04 PM
> To: Rick Fisk
> Cc: Spridgets List
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
>
> That's why I like IRL.  They have telemetry, but nothing that can be
> considered a "driver aid".  No ABS, No Traction Control, there are
> suspension adjustments, but they are all manual.
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
>> The guys today more or less point and shoot - the cars practically drive
>> themselves.  Most F1 races are a parade  The finishing order is often
very
>> close to the starting order.  My vote is to remove all of the computers
> and
>> the telemetry and make the drivers actually drive the car.
>>
>> Fangio won five world championships back when the driver actually drove.
> And
>> Fangio never drove a Grand Prix car until he was 37 years old.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels"
> <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:17 PM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
>>
>>
>>>
>>> While I applaud the ingenuity that goes into these telemetry systems, I
>>> can't
>>> help but think that Fangio, and even a driver's driver as recent as
> Senna,
>>> would be turning over in their respective graves at the thought of this.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun 30 10:06:58 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:06:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Coils
Message-ID: <2D0DB104D4EF4B7BBC76508EFB5FF91A@Home>

I have a number of old coils in my BE kit.  The primary coils are all around 3.5+ ohms.  The secondary coils are 7+ and 8+, the one on my car is 9+ ohms.  The sockets on the old coils are corroded enough that contact could be their problem.  What numbers should I be looking for and why?

Michael Rowe

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Jun 30 10:43:36 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:43:36 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] F1 Race Technology Gone Nuts
Message-ID: <6afd7.1e785dce.395cce38@aol.com>

Another step nearer to full size slot car racing?
 
In a message dated 29/06/2010 23:18:06 GMT Daylight Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

As
this stuff progresses, more and more the driver becomes a  smaller part of 
the
equation.  That's a  shame.

LAD

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 12:09:18 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:09:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Painting in Your Garage
Message-ID: <AANLkTimezGN19ft_5WZ1FeXvS1TwFM3ULyxvHXmf4Mfg@mail.gmail.com>

Just to mention.  A guy in town who years ago mentored me in shooting Harley
custom paint jobs (I currently focus completely on restoring vintage
guitars). .  . this guy shoots all his bike parts in his garage.

I built a walk in spray booth on the side of the house. .  but this fellow
uses his garage.

He keeps the floor wet and shuts the garage door down on top of a fan. .
nothing else.

He runs the fan for 15 minutes before he paints.

His jobs are perfect and he has won many awards for his work.

I asked him about all the crap on the floor of the garage, around the edges,
dust and stuff.  His answer, "No problem unless I stir it up. .  which I
don't."

I have a garden hose running full time to the floor of my booth when I shoot
and from my experience, a wet floor makes a big difference in keeping nibs
out of the paint and the clear coats.

A small car of course is a larger object than a guitar or bike tanks and
fenders. .  but it seems to me that the wet floor plays the biggest role in
keeping the nibs off the job.

An auto body shop I am familiar with in town also keeps the floor wet in
their booth.

Just a some random thoughts on the subject!

Kirk

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 13:12:10 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:12:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Coils
In-Reply-To: <2D0DB104D4EF4B7BBC76508EFB5FF91A@Home>
References: <2D0DB104D4EF4B7BBC76508EFB5FF91A@Home>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil5SfJsxSI0dHg6ioS6iLh5CDC3378DMF0p7PsC@mail.gmail.com>

Mike,

This is from an Alpha Romeo, Lancia site, but I think it is pretty
generic...

*http://tinyurl.com/66yx3b
*
According to this website 7, 8 & 9 ohms is like 1,000 orders of magnitude
too low...  Are you sure you are reading the right scale on the ohmeter?

Cheers!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> I have a number of old coils in my BE kit.  The primary coils are all
> around 3.5+ ohms.  The secondary coils are 7+ and 8+, the one on my car is
> 9+ ohms.  The sockets on the old coils are corroded enough that contact
> could be their problem.  What numbers should I be looking for and why?
>
> Michael Rowe

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Jun 30 15:28:49 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:28:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Coils
References: <2D0DB104D4EF4B7BBC76508EFB5FF91A@Home>
	<AANLkTil5SfJsxSI0dHg6ioS6iLh5CDC3378DMF0p7PsC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <316E2DABF4F148E78CEE848996279EE9@Dell9200>

The primary of the coil can be between about 1 ohm and 6 ohms depending on 
application.  Our cars typically have a 3 +/- ohm primary coil, 12 volts 
through a 3 ohm coil is 4 amps when the points are closed.  The secondary 
(high voltage) coil can be most any high resistance depending on the number 
of turns and the saturation of the core.  It's usually the primary that 
"opens" so a coil that measures 1 to 6 ohms from the + to _ side is most 
often ok to use.

Mark
Nashville
58 "Bugeye"



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Coils


Mike,

This is from an Alpha Romeo, Lancia site, but I think it is pretty
generic...

*http://tinyurl.com/66yx3b
*
According to this website 7, 8 & 9 ohms is like 1,000 orders of magnitude
too low...  Are you sure you are reading the right scale on the ohmeter?

Cheers!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> I have a number of old coils in my BE kit.  The primary coils are all
> around 3.5+ ohms.  The secondary coils are 7+ and 8+, the one on my car is
> 9+ ohms.  The sockets on the old coils are corroded enough that contact
> could be their problem.  What numbers should I be looking for and why?
>
> Michael Rowe
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jun 30 18:28:44 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 17:28:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Coils
In-Reply-To: <316E2DABF4F148E78CEE848996279EE9@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <C8512F4C.28611%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> between about 1 ohm and 6 ohms
Very few meters can measure such a small resistance accurately so don't be
too fussy if it's in the general ballpark. Even meters that are accurate in
that range need to be recalibrated regularly.
BZ

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 30 20:52:09 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:52:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] June Sprints photos
Message-ID: <107441.43075.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My friend and Thicko supoorter Reid Hazelton runs a 1991 Van Dieman in SCCA Formula Ford. He started racing as a college student on no budget (won Midwest Council Driver of the Year in a $100 RX-7), and has less now. Against the country's best, he took 2nd place in the June Sprints at Elkhart Lake. The kid can drive. Attached is a link to a photo essay (should be open to all without password). My son Bobby and I (in one of the pics; why did no one get my t-shirt's joke?) went up, and it was so cool that Bobby is now a diehard race fan. Those of you who him know how uncomfortable he is around loud noises and the rapid movements at the race track, so this speaks volumes of how fun this was. Enjoy - 

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=18710&id=100000287854617&l=ab263d3f71

Ron

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 30 21:00:46 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:00:46 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] June Sprints photos
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Nice pics.
Pic 46 is awesome.