From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul  1 11:10:05 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:10:05 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] June Sprints photos
Message-ID: <8b23d.2233cfb0.395e25ed@aol.com>

SOOOoooo, what's the exhaust manifold made out of?
 
In a message dated 01/07/2010 03:54:53 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com 
 writes:

My  friend and Thicko supoorter Reid Hazelton runs a 1991 Van Dieman in 
SCCA  Formula Ford. He started racing as a college student on no budget (won 
Midwest  Council Driver of the Year in a $100 RX-7), and has less now. Against 
the  country's best, he took 2nd place in the June Sprints at Elkhart Lake. 
The kid  can drive. Attached is a link to a photo essay (should be open to 
all without  password). My son Bobby and I (in one of the pics; why did no 
one get my  t-shirt's joke?) went up, and it was so cool that Bobby is now a 
diehard race  fan. Those of you who him know how uncomfortable he is around 
loud noises and  the rapid movements at the race track, so this speaks 
volumes of how fun this  was. Enjoy -  

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=18710&id=100000287854617&l=ab263d3f71

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 13:22:40 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 12:22:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
Message-ID: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>

Ran into this and thought I would share this strange thing with the list. .



If anyone knows how this engine works, I would be interested. .

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Lady-Peroxide-Rocket-Car-/230486105784?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35aa0adeb8

Kirk
59 1275

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jul  1 14:06:04 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:06:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C2CF52C.2080509@justbrits.com>

<< If anyone knows how this engine works, I would be interested. . >>

Prolly have to wait for Professor 'Hopper, Kirk <VBG> !!!

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 14:08:47 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:08:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil_SnayLnocrM1eXvnT8IRjiG5SAuDY6awROLr0@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ran into this and thought I would share this strange thing with the list. .
>
> If anyone knows how this engine works, I would be interested. .
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Lady-Peroxide-Rocket-Car-/230486105784?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35aa0adeb8
>

I don't know anything about it other than I REALLY like the Corvair
Monza SS body style they copied!

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Thu Jul  1 14:19:29 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:19:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
Message-ID: <419101cb195a$b5a26160$0168010a@mail2world.com>

This looks like it explains it in a high level manner:
http://www.tecaeromex.com/ingles/peroxidoi.html

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: J Foster [tr3.4.me at gmail.com]
Sent: 7/1/2010 4:09:47 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's 

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
wrote: 
> Ran into this and thought I would share this strange thing with the
list. . 
> 
> If anyone knows how this engine works, I would be interested. . 
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Lady-Peroxide-Rocket-Car-/230486105784?cmd=
ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35aa0adeb8 
> 

I don't know anything about it other than I REALLY like the Corvair 
Monza SS body style they copied! 
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From duncan at pondhop.com  Thu Jul  1 14:27:13 2010
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 15:27:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00ff01cb195b$cd71d9a0$68558ce0$@pondhop.com>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_test_peroxide


Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 14:23
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's

Ran into this and thought I would share this strange thing with the list. .



If anyone knows how this engine works, I would be interested. .

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Lady-Peroxide-Rocket-Car-/230486105784?cmd=View
Item&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35aa0adeb8

Kirk
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 14:51:25 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 13:51:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
In-Reply-To: <00ff01cb195b$cd71d9a0$68558ce0$@pondhop.com>
References: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ff01cb195b$cd71d9a0$68558ce0$@pondhop.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik8Qwsq4RbW9hQ4bHoijv0SkfU9kd5GEE51PDsw@mail.gmail.com>

Duncan,


Very interesting.  . thanks for sending. .  .

Kirk

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Duncan Sinclair <duncan at pondhop.com> wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_test_peroxide
>
>
> Thanks
> Duncan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves
> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 14:23
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
>
> Ran into this and thought I would share this strange thing with the list. .
>
>
>
> If anyone knows how this engine works, I would be interested. .
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Lady-Peroxide-Rocket-Car-/230486105784?cmd=View
> Item&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35aa0adeb8<http://cgi.ebay.com/Hydrogen-Lady-Peroxide-Rocket-Car-/230486105784?cmd=View%0AItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35aa0adeb8>
>
> Kirk
> 59 1275
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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jul  1 15:18:55 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:18:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil_SnayLnocrM1eXvnT8IRjiG5SAuDY6awROLr0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil_SnayLnocrM1eXvnT8IRjiG5SAuDY6awROLr0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C2D063F.7040206@justbrits.com>

<< ...Corvair Monza SS body style they copied! >>

Agreed, Jeff.  I was wondering how long it would take
for somebody to notice <VBG> !!!  Of course, I much prefer
for '60 & '61s as I HAD <big sigh> one of each<G> !!
FANTASTIC cars & SCREW Nadar !!!  LOL

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jul  1 16:55:41 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:55:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
Message-ID: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>

What was wrong?
73 Midget, stock. Friend's car that was running perfect last summer.
New gas tank. This year it would fire up, run for about 2 seconds and die.
I think fuel, carbs are clean, floats are set even though it has gross 
jets, no leaks, and fuel in each bowl.
I replaced the plugs, they were fouled from him using the choke too 
much. It fires and quits in a second or 2.
Check the points, clean them, they were set at .016 and new last summer.
This car gets very little use so I'm guessing at most 50 miles on the 
new Moss points and condenser.
After an hour of "I don't know" I changed out the dizzy, now all is 
fine. It runs like a raped ape again.
So was it the moss sold made in India crap ignition parts that failed?
I have his old dizzy here and I will systematically replace the points, 
then try it, the condenser, try it again, and the rotor and try it to 
see just what failed.
I even tried the original dizzy after I swapped it out and got it 
running good since the owner "messed" with the carbs. But no change, 
there is something in the dizzy causing the car to be hard starting, 
back firing, and cutting out after a couple of seconds.
Does anybody care to offer a clue as to what would cause this?
Points were not grounded out, clean and gaped perfect.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 17:02:22 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 18:02:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
In-Reply-To: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
References: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikz3dtJbfDHZ-tUgxGUC8BAi6RiU07QLRxk3hi0@mail.gmail.com>

Could the bushings in the dizzy be shot, allowing the points gap to vary?

On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> What was wrong?
> 73 Midget, stock. Friend's car that was running perfect last summer.
> New gas tank. This year it would fire up, run for about 2 seconds and die.
> I think fuel, carbs are clean, floats are set even though it has gross
> jets, no leaks, and fuel in each bowl.
> I replaced the plugs, they were fouled from him using the choke too much.
> It fires and quits in a second or 2.
> Check the points, clean them, they were set at .016 and new last summer.
> This car gets very little use so I'm guessing at most 50 miles on the new
> Moss points and condenser.
> After an hour of "I don't know" I changed out the dizzy, now all is fine.
> It runs like a raped ape again.
> So was it the moss sold made in India crap ignition parts that failed?
> I have his old dizzy here and I will systematically replace the points,
> then try it, the condenser, try it again, and the rotor and try it to see
> just what failed.
> I even tried the original dizzy after I swapped it out and got it running
> good since the owner "messed" with the carbs. But no change, there is
> something in the dizzy causing the car to be hard starting, back firing, and
> cutting out after a couple of seconds.
> Does anybody care to offer a clue as to what would cause this?
> Points were not grounded out, clean and gaped perfect.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 17:23:49 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 17:23:49 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
In-Reply-To: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
References: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilJPd8UuGz4MHA6WIMNDC402NxipqPnIqboMO3Y@mail.gmail.com>

Bad condenser?
A second or two......maybe the advance is somehow shorting the points?

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Thu Jul  1 17:36:48 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 19:36:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
References: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTilJPd8UuGz4MHA6WIMNDC402NxipqPnIqboMO3Y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B125343275234217821DA51FE9F85477@MAINCOMPUTER>

I'm A mostly cheby guy But i'll bet condensor is breaking down.
J
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To: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Cc: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?


> Bad condenser?
> A second or two......maybe the advance is somehow shorting the points?
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jul  1 17:48:03 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 19:48:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
In-Reply-To: <4C2D063F.7040206@justbrits.com>
References: <AANLkTinwJrfPWcxjSpWZprprlKhjULO4Wzu5jAb0sd1C@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTil_SnayLnocrM1eXvnT8IRjiG5SAuDY6awROLr0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C2D063F.7040206@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <A7B8AD3136E4496EA546C2BB41D89B8C@Home>

I had a Corvair of that vintage.  When I got my Sprite, I sold the Corvair 
to my boss.  The next day, the engine broke off and fell out on the street 
when he backed out of his garage.

Michael Rowe

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's


> << ...Corvair Monza SS body style they copied! >>
>
> Agreed, Jeff.  I was wondering how long it would take
> for somebody to notice <VBG> !!!  Of course, I much prefer
> for '60 & '61s as I HAD <big sigh> one of each<G> !!
> FANTASTIC cars & SCREW Nadar !!!  LOL
>
> Ed
> Please visit MY site at:
> www.justbrits.com
> [with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
> For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
> [Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']
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From biffjones at verizon.net  Thu Jul  1 18:21:56 2010
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:21:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
References: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <50C98E0A93504EDE9418D78FE1CD7163@dell1>

LT wire shorting to the distributor body or contact breaker plate.

Biff

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  1 20:35:59 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 22:35:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
In-Reply-To: <50C98E0A93504EDE9418D78FE1CD7163@dell1>
References: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
	<50C98E0A93504EDE9418D78FE1CD7163@dell1>
Message-ID: <BFC7B13A-76EB-4CEA-8F47-47212B17AAF4@gmail.com>

On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:21 PM, Biff Jones wrote:

> LT wire shorting to the distributor body or contact breaker plate.




LT wire has my vote too....

I've also had rotors/caps that caused this symptom.

Kevin V.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jul  1 22:07:06 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 00:07:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] tubes..
Message-ID: <F3911C7444204043A1AAD756CA6A8FDE@blackbox2>

GOOOOOD....

NAPA Part #BK 7101725  $13
http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?R=BK_7101725_0006396001


BAAAAD....

MOSS Part #452-715  $20
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32693&SortOrde
r=2


The NAPA tube is made by Kenda.  Nice, thick, tough rubber. 

The Moss tube says ISO9000 on it. Certified crap, I guess. 
It failed where the valve stem is fused to the tube.
I did not pinch it. The rubber is real thin at that spot
and it just split.  It did this 10 minutes after I had filled
it up with air when bounced the wheel on the ground.

I understand the Classico tubes from the UK are the best thing going, but
they are a little pricey at $60 a tube.

I think that Kenda tube from NAPA is a good bargain.

Some have mentioned that Pep Boys carries tubes.
The one near me only carries 14/15/16 inch tubes, and they were out of those
so I couldn't even look at them to see what the quality was like.

I found a Dunlop Duraseal in one of the used wire wheels that I purchased
and it looks to be of excellent quality.  But I don't think they are
available any more.  

My only problem now is that I have three of those Moss tubes already 
installed into the other three wheels on the car.  The only thing I can
think is to take the car on a long highway cruise and torture test it to see
if there is any infant mortality.  Even then I will never have a happy
feeling in my tummy when I take the car on a long trip.

Wait a sec...I never have had a happy feeling in my tummy when I've taken
this car on a long trip.  But before this tube issue popped up I was getting
pretty close!

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  1 22:27:22 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 21:27:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] June Sprints photos
In-Reply-To: <8b23d.2233cfb0.395e25ed@aol.com>
Message-ID: <325163.70494.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Stainless. He polished it himself. He does all his own paint and bodywork.
Started his own garage paint shop in college to pay for racing habit, has a
car or 2 in the Studebaker museum, also did the beautiful paintwork on Jeff
Porasik's old 98 red Sprite. Very industrious kid!

--- On Thu, 7/1/10, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
wrote:

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] June Sprints photos
To: soavero at yahoo.com, spridgets at autox.team.net, team-thicko at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 12:10 PM



 


SOOOoooo, what's the exhaust manifold made out of?
 
In a message dated
01/07/2010 03:54:53 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com 
writes:
My 
  friend
and Thicko supoorter Reid Hazelton runs a 1991 Van Dieman in SCCA 
  Formula
Ford. He started racing as a college student on no budget (won Midwest
Council Driver of the Year in a $100 RX-7), and has less now. Against the
country's best, he took 2nd place in the June Sprints at Elkhart Lake. The kid
can drive. Attached is a link to a photo essay (should be open to all without
password). My son Bobby and I (in one of the pics; why did no one get my
t-shirt's joke?) went up, and it was so cool that Bobby is now a diehard race
fan. Those of you who him know how uncomfortable he is around loud noises and
the rapid movements at the race track, so this speaks volumes of how fun this
was. Enjoy -

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=18710&id=100000287854617&l=ab263d3f71


 

From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Jul  2 00:01:15 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 07:01:15 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
References: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5A41C6B839EB41A08995D1890BC509BF@user8634b3d69b>

Frank,
If it were grounded out anywhere along the line the car shouldn't fire up at 
all.
It could well be condenser.
As an odd ball alternative, try wear in the carbon brush in the cap or a bad 
rotor.

Regards,

Guy R Day




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 11:55 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?


> What was wrong?
> 73 Midget, stock. Friend's car that was running perfect last summer.
> New gas tank. This year it would fire up, run for about 2 seconds and die.
> I think fuel, carbs are clean, floats are set even though it has gross 
> jets, no leaks, and fuel in each bowl.
> I replaced the plugs, they were fouled from him using the choke too much. 
> It fires and quits in a second or 2.
> Check the points, clean them, they were set at .016 and new last summer.
> This car gets very little use so I'm guessing at most 50 miles on the new 
> Moss points and condenser.
> After an hour of "I don't know" I changed out the dizzy, now all is fine. 
> It runs like a raped ape again.
> So was it the moss sold made in India crap ignition parts that failed?
> I have his old dizzy here and I will systematically replace the points, 
> then try it, the condenser, try it again, and the rotor and try it to see 
> just what failed.
> I even tried the original dizzy after I swapped it out and got it running 
> good since the owner "messed" with the carbs. But no change, there is 
> something in the dizzy causing the car to be hard starting, back firing, 
> and cutting out after a couple of seconds.
> Does anybody care to offer a clue as to what would cause this?
> Points were not grounded out, clean and gaped perfect.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 06:34:25 2010
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 05:34:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC in Hagerty's News
Message-ID: <420530.5052.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

In Hagerty's news letter an article on an LBC collection.  Link below.
Enjoy, Lon
 
http://www.hagerty.com/lifestyle/hobby_article.aspx?id=71564
 

From info at classictradespace.com  Fri Jul  2 10:55:50 2010
From: info at classictradespace.com (classic trade space)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:55:50 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye
Message-ID: <6E950680240148B3BF9CA58147361915@WORLDCARS>

i am looking for a good solid bugeye project to restore, would consider a
rolling tub, any one on the list got anything available or know of one for
sale.

thanks marc

From jfishbein at jjfinc.com  Fri Jul  2 11:43:58 2010
From: jfishbein at jjfinc.com (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 13:43:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] List/Mail Problem
Message-ID: <B1BF240E3E15474BA46736687B58553E07141F@sbsserver1.jjfinc.local>

Is anyone aware of a problem with receiving mail through yahoo / at&t /
snet ?

For some reason it appears I was dropped from the list on 6/29, tried to
resubscribe, but none of the notices get through to my .snet address
which is managed by yahoo. I'm wondering if mail from the autox server
is being blocked.

I've subscribed through my work address but this isn't ideal.

jay fishbein
Wallingford, ct

From rdgard at cox.net  Fri Jul  2 12:42:58 2010
From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:42:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest,PROJECT CAR
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1278093602.6619.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.11.1278093602.6619.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <B9D1B286F1874B18B2CA216B8A92D2AD@internetpc>

Marc.

What part of the world are you in.  I am getting ready to let go 3 BE
project cars in San Diego.  If any interest, can talk about more details.
Two with almost perfect bodies and no rust. 

Cheers,

Bob in San Diego 


Robert D. Gardner
 
Gardner Productions LLC
Film and Video Production since 1978
619-460-1000
www.gardnerproductions.com

 

i am looking for a good solid bugeye project to restore, would consider a
rolling tub, any one on the list got anything available or know of one for
sale.

thanks marc


------------------------------

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Jul  2 14:43:08 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:43:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I wish to retract my diagnosis
Message-ID: <87d24a$8maasr@email.mtu.edu>

Back on the 22nd of June, I wrote about a "bad hose" I had installed 
on my 1098 Sprite to make bleeding of the clutch cylinder easier. I 
blamed the old hose for disintegrating and clogging the clutch 
cylinder so I couldn't get the clutch to release. I wish to retract 
that diagnosis.

After bleeding the cylinder several times because of the coffee 
colored brake fluid and still the clutch wouldn't work, I began to 
suspect something else - a stuck clutch. I had used the car about 2 
weeks earlier so I kept dismissing a stuck clutch option, but that's 
what it was. Today I warmed up the car, turned it off, shifted into 
4th and then started the car without pushing on the clutch peddle. 
After a few jerks down the driveway, the car was off and running - 
just fine. I could finally shift through the gears.

I dissected the "old hose" today and couldn't find a thing wrong. I 
ran a Q-tip inside the hose and it came up clean - no smutz. So why 
was the brake fluid so dark? Well, I recall using a rubber assembly 
grease that came with the repair kit, I believe, and I do remember 
ordering more from Peter 'cause I did all the brakes and master 
cylinder too and needed more. That stuff is a dark plumb color as I 
recall. So I conclude that the hydraulic was A-OK and the real 
problem was the stuck clutch. At least I won't have to worry about 
the new steel line.

Here's the lesson. When your doctor says you have "dark brake fluid" 
because you are having "clutch problems"  it could be that your real 
problem is that your "clutch is stuck." If the Dr. puts you on a med 
to clear up your "brake fluid" it probably won't help. If the good 
Dr. wants to replace your "throw out bearing" better get another 
opinion. It's gotta be a tough job being a Dr. You can't be wrong too 
many times!

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 15:14:28 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:14:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] alternative fuel pumps
Message-ID: <AANLkTima1jST-4pYzlzBr9MV3INh2Kg6Zp4ckHYBsivD@mail.gmail.com>

I've been having occasional stumbling from my 73 Midget lately and
today it doesn't want to idle good either - having to baby it and
feather the throttle to keep it from dieing @ stop lights sure takes
the fun out of driving!  Just got back to the garage and see there's
very little fuel in the cup of the fuel filter (usually sits about 1/3
full) so I'm guessing my old fuel pump is starting to give up.

I seem to remember discussion on here about alternative fuel pumps but
ain't having much luck searching the archives.

What's a decent quality pump that I might find today at my FLAPS?


Also noticed my coil seemed quite hot after a 15 minute drive so
possibly I need to replace it too. Any thoughts on that too??

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 15:18:17 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:18:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Peroxide Ride
Message-ID: <AANLkTikMfDe1_NlJ12Ji6K4mbyZBgRpWp7fZFEi30mfG@mail.gmail.com>

Chris,

Thanks for pulling this up for me.  . the site kept me busy for a while..

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 15:22:17 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:22:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
Message-ID: <AANLkTikHx-zLXPz4_pBas91sFKfRzjFgeKEWD8NBKua1@mail.gmail.com>

Ed,

You comment regarding Nader (agreed). .

What the heck was Nader's issue with the Corvair anyhow?

The rear independent axles flexed from the inside of the axle, at the
differential, instead of at the wheel?

Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. . .


Politics as usual. .  ?

Kirk

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul  2 15:42:55 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:42:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] alternative fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTima1jST-4pYzlzBr9MV3INh2Kg6Zp4ckHYBsivD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTima1jST-4pYzlzBr9MV3INh2Kg6Zp4ckHYBsivD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71C8B9E2C7EE43F9ACB2B5A37CC21380@spider>

Fuel delivery problems would be more apparent at high speeds than at low
speeds; more consumption.
Carbs circuits have three modes; idle, acceleration and constant speed.

You might check all the tune-up specs; is the gas fairly new?
Maybe start looking at the hot spark coil first. ...bill in oregon
====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J Foster
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:14 PM
To: Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] alternative fuel pumps

I've been having occasional stumbling from my 73 Midget lately and
today it doesn't want to idle good either - having to baby it and
feather the throttle to keep it from dieing @ stop lights sure takes
the fun out of driving!  Just got back to the garage and see there's
very little fuel in the cup of the fuel filter (usually sits about 1/3
full) so I'm guessing my old fuel pump is starting to give up.

I seem to remember discussion on here about alternative fuel pumps but
ain't having much luck searching the archives.

What's a decent quality pump that I might find today at my FLAPS?

Also noticed my coil seemed quite hot after a 15 minute drive so
possibly I need to replace it too. Any thoughts on that too??
_______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul  2 15:45:54 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 14:45:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikHx-zLXPz4_pBas91sFKfRzjFgeKEWD8NBKua1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikHx-zLXPz4_pBas91sFKfRzjFgeKEWD8NBKua1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8D6148DE8DA24403A463042EEC388967@spider>

The VW bugs' rear suspension was identical to the Corvair. I think that
Corvair was just a more local/smaller target. Everybody loved the Bug and
there were millions of them. ...bill in oregon
========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 2:22 PM
To: shop at justbrits.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair

Ed,

You comment regarding Nader (agreed). .

What the heck was Nader's issue with the Corvair anyhow?

The rear independent axles flexed from the inside of the axle, at the
differential, instead of at the wheel?

Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. . .

Politics as usual. .  ?

Kirk
_______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Jul  2 16:43:21 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:43:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikHx-zLXPz4_pBas91sFKfRzjFgeKEWD8NBKua1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. . .
It should have. Maybe it was because a Corvair could go fast enough to get
into trouble. More likely, Nader didn't dislike Germany.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 16:45:59 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:45:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikHx-zLXPz4_pBas91sFKfRzjFgeKEWD8NBKua1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikHx-zLXPz4_pBas91sFKfRzjFgeKEWD8NBKua1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiniobLKvLkt6ANBkmb5WsKkX2QanZmid_YFctLs@mail.gmail.com>

Nadar called the Corvair "Unsafe at any speed". I'm sure it was politics.
Perhaps he asked Chevy for a bribe, they wouldn't, so he killed their most
promising sports car out of spite.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ed,
>
> You comment regarding Nader (agreed). .
>
> What the heck was Nader's issue with the Corvair anyhow?
>
> The rear independent axles flexed from the inside of the axle, at the
> differential, instead of at the wheel?
>
> Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. . .
>
>
> Politics as usual. .  ?
>
> Kirk
> _______________________________________________
>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul  2 17:06:45 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:06:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiniobLKvLkt6ANBkmb5WsKkX2QanZmid_YFctLs@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikHx-zLXPz4_pBas91sFKfRzjFgeKEWD8NBKua1@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTiniobLKvLkt6ANBkmb5WsKkX2QanZmid_YFctLs@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D944B1E01F124910A3B7EB02B1113B87@spider>

Of course, it was GM that got nailed for trying to dig into Nadar's private
life. He used the money to set up the nongovernmental organization (NGO) in
1971. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Nadar
. . . bill in corvallis
===============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 3:46 PM
To: Kirk Hargreaves
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair

Nadar called the Corvair "Unsafe at any speed". I'm sure it was politics.
Perhaps he asked Chevy for a bribe, they wouldn't, so he killed their most
promising sports car out of spite.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Kirk Hargreaves
<khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ed,
>
> You comment regarding Nader (agreed). .
>
> What the heck was Nader's issue with the Corvair anyhow?
>
> The rear independent axles flexed from the inside of the axle, at the
> differential, instead of at the wheel?
>
> Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. .
.
>
>
> Politics as usual. .  ?
>
> Kirk
> _______________________________________________

From millerls at ado13.com  Fri Jul  2 17:59:24 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:59:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <A195F650-7568-4D83-B113-D0E7867BD7C9@ado13.com>

It is plain to see that none of you ever owned or drove an early Corvair. They
put tail happy Porsches to shame. A real bad tendency to swap ends. Sandi and
I are lucky that It did not kill us before I learned how to drive it. The
later ones were greatly improved.

Larry Miller


On Jul 2, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. .
.
> It should have. Maybe it was because a Corvair could go fast enough to get
> into trouble. More likely, Nader didn't dislike Germany.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul  2 18:22:32 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 17:22:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <A195F650-7568-4D83-B113-D0E7867BD7C9@ado13.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<A195F650-7568-4D83-B113-D0E7867BD7C9@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <3C99C14C2FB448DFAEE8ADBD55E32B6A@spider>

Yes, the rear suspension is tricky. I have read that is was originally
developed by Tatra. The advantage is that it was stable on high-center
(unimproved) roads of the day.
>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_(company)

"Leopold Pasching took over control and in 1921 Hans Ledwinka returned again
to develop the revolutionary Tatra 11.
The new car, launched in 1923 featured a rigid backbone tube with swinging
semi-axles at the rear giving independent suspension."

"Ledwinka discussed his ideas with Ferdinand Porsche who used many Tatra
design features in the 1938 Kdf-Wagen, later known as the VW Beetle. This is
particularly evident when compared with the smaller T97 model which had a
rear-mounted, air-cooled, flat-4 engine and rounded body styling. Tatra
immediately started legal action, but the matter was not resolved until 1961
when Volkswagen was ordered to pay 3,000,000 Deutsche Marks in damages."
. . . bill in Oregon
=================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:59 PM
To: Spridget
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair

It is plain to see that none of you ever owned or drove an early Corvair.
They
put tail happy Porsches to shame. A real bad tendency to swap ends. Sandi
and
I are lucky that It did not kill us before I learned how to drive it. The
later ones were greatly improved.

Larry Miller

==============================================
On Jul 2, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. .
.
> It should have. Maybe it was because a Corvair could go fast enough to get
> into trouble. More likely, Nader didn't dislike Germany.
> _______________________________________________

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jul  2 19:11:38 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 18:11:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] alternative fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTima1jST-4pYzlzBr9MV3INh2Kg6Zp4ckHYBsivD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTima1jST-4pYzlzBr9MV3INh2Kg6Zp4ckHYBsivD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <397140631.20100702181138@pacifier.com>

Hello J,

     the facet pump from NAPA is just fine. get the low pressure one.
     I've heard the Carters are also good.


-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I used to be a paratrooper," Tom explained.

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 19:22:24 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 20:22:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <A195F650-7568-4D83-B113-D0E7867BD7C9@ado13.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<A195F650-7568-4D83-B113-D0E7867BD7C9@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTindXO4F-28Sb-Ca9Bt_9W4Bp7G_pbLYg9jAEoge@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
> It is plain to see that none of you ever owned or drove an early Corvair. They
> put tail happy Porsches to shame. A real bad tendency to swap ends. Sandi and
> I are lucky that It did not kill us before I learned how to drive it. The
> later ones were greatly improved.
>

That "tail happy" attitude is exactly what I liked about my 63 coupe.
What a blast to drive thru the corners (which was the only place I
could outrun my buddies Camaro)!

Of course the front-wheel-lifting tendency when you drop the clutch
was pretty fun in my Corvair 95 Rampside pickup too!  Almost wish I'd
kept the truck more than I miss the coupe (my first car).  The first
time my friend drove the Rampside he "accidentally slipped off the
clutch" (yeah, riiight) and pulled the front tires 8-10 inches into
the air.

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Jul  2 19:21:51 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:21:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <3C99C14C2FB448DFAEE8ADBD55E32B6A@spider>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<A195F650-7568-4D83-B113-D0E7867BD7C9@ado13.com>
	<3C99C14C2FB448DFAEE8ADBD55E32B6A@spider>
Message-ID: <87d2rg$8td79p@email.mtu.edu>

Ralph was on the college speaking route for many years - may still 
be. When he came to Michigan Tech in the Upper Peninsula (MI) he took 
a jet to the closest airport and then was driven the rest of the way. 
He evidently has a policy to not fly in small commuter planes - 
unsafe at any altitude I guess. Take a look at the map. Milwaukee to 
Houghton (Does Green Bay have big jet service?) or GB to Houghton is 
a long way. 3 to 4 hours by car to GB. Two lane roads all the way 
once past GB and those roads are through the wilderness. The 
wilderness is full of deer. I have see herds of deer on the highway 
on that stretch of road especially in the Spring when the new grass 
is growing along the highway and the woods are still full of snow. 
But, he was comfortable with the tradeoff of a "safe highway ride" vs 
a dangerous ride in a small plane. Houghton International Airport 
(CMX) is about a 15 minute drive from the campus.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul  2 19:55:27 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 18:55:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTindXO4F-28Sb-Ca9Bt_9W4Bp7G_pbLYg9jAEoge@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><A195F650-7568-4D83-B113-D0E7867BD7C9@ado13.com>
	<AANLkTindXO4F-28Sb-Ca9Bt_9W4Bp7G_pbLYg9jAEoge@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0454AEB91FDF48A2BF113B722F82764E@spider>

Shades of the Lil' Red Wagon, the Dodge funny 'car.'
...bill in corvallis
==================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J Foster
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:22 PM
To: Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
wrote:
> It is plain to see that none of you ever owned or drove an early Corvair.
They
> put tail happy Porsches to shame. A real bad tendency to swap ends. Sandi
and
> I are lucky that It did not kill us before I learned how to drive it. The
> later ones were greatly improved.
>
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
That "tail happy" attitude is exactly what I liked about my 63 coupe.
What a blast to drive thru the corners (which was the only place I
could outrun my buddies Camaro)!

Of course the front-wheel-lifting tendency when you drop the clutch
was pretty fun in my Corvair 95 Rampside pickup too!  Almost wish I'd
kept the truck more than I miss the coupe (my first car).  The first
time my friend drove the Rampside he "accidentally slipped off the
clutch" (yeah, riiight) and pulled the front tires 8-10 inches into
the air.
_______________________________________________

From millerls at ado13.com  Fri Jul  2 20:04:54 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:04:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTindXO4F-28Sb-Ca9Bt_9W4Bp7G_pbLYg9jAEoge@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<A195F650-7568-4D83-B113-D0E7867BD7C9@ado13.com>
	<AANLkTindXO4F-28Sb-Ca9Bt_9W4Bp7G_pbLYg9jAEoge@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9BC5FFF5-0532-4EDA-B975-E040B8EA3F33@ado13.com>

I agree that it was a fun car to drive when you knew what you were doing. Same
with the early Porsche.

On Jul 2, 2010, at 6:22 PM, J Foster wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
wrote:
>> It is plain to see that none of you ever owned or drove an early Corvair.
They
>> put tail happy Porsches to shame. A real bad tendency to swap ends. Sandi
and
>> I are lucky that It did not kill us before I learned how to drive it. The
>> later ones were greatly improved.
>>
>
> That "tail happy" attitude is exactly what I liked about my 63 coupe.
> What a blast to drive thru the corners (which was the only place I
> could outrun my buddies Camaro)!
>
> Of course the front-wheel-lifting tendency when you drop the clutch
> was pretty fun in my Corvair 95 Rampside pickup too!  Almost wish I'd
> kept the truck more than I miss the coupe (my first car).  The first
> time my friend drove the Rampside he "accidentally slipped off the
> clutch" (yeah, riiight) and pulled the front tires 8-10 inches into
> the air.
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 20:28:25 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 02:28:25 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] alternative fuel pumps
Message-ID: <mailman.13.1278124055.911.spridgets@autox.team.net>

I just put a carter low pressure pump with a holly regulator in my BE. Works just fine.

Steve
------Original Message------
From: Bill L
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: J Foster
Cc: spridgets
ReplyTo: Bill L
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] alternative fuel pumps
Sent: Jul 2, 2010 9:11 PM

Hello J,

     the facet pump from NAPA is just fine. get the low pressure one.
     I've heard the Carters are also good.


-- 
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 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
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From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Jul  2 21:45:00 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:45:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>

Actually, VW caught the sonofabitch using bogus information to make his 
case.  Bogus as in "fabricated" to suit his purpose.  VW had the balls to 
confront the lyin' weasel whereas GM just kind of stuck their head in the 
sand and hoped it would all blow over/go away.  Nader just kind of "dropped" 
the subject of the VW, for which VW didn't press the matter.  Too bad VW 
didn't follow through and crush that miserable creep.  Instead, Nader was 
allowed to spread more of his crap around and further the cause of "I'm not 
responsible for my own stupidity" and all that goes along with that 
mentality, including an out of control tort law situation and the acceptance 
of the idea that it is the government's responsibility to protect us from 
ourselves.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>; "Ed's Shop" 
<shop at justbrits.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair


>> Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. . 
>> .
> It should have. Maybe it was because a Corvair could go fast enough to get
> into trouble. More likely, Nader didn't dislike Germany.

From bkitterer at me.com  Fri Jul  2 22:46:28 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:46:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <E9C8C957-E85B-402A-8800-1BEA66BB104C@me.com>

Nader was on a revenge crusade because his favorite law professor was seriously injured or killed, I do not remember which, in an accident driving a Corvair.  Among other things the professor seems to have ignored the tire pressure.  The front and rear tire pressures on Corvairs were significantly different and many people like today put the same pressure in all of the tires if they checked them at all.  That coupled with the rear engine resulted in the rear end going some where other than where one might want.  Nader's argument in his book claiming the rear suspension was the problem was totally idiotic.

Road & Track to Nader to task on the VW bus, just do not remember the year.  

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Jul 2, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Bud Osbourne wrote:

> Actually, VW caught the sonofabitch using bogus information to make his case.  Bogus as in "fabricated" to suit his purpose.  VW had the balls to confront the lyin' weasel whereas GM just kind of stuck their head in the sand and hoped it would all blow over/go away.  Nader just kind of "dropped" the subject of the VW, for which VW didn't press the matter.  Too bad VW didn't follow through and crush that miserable creep.  Instead, Nader was allowed to spread more of his crap around and further the cause of "I'm not responsible for my own stupidity" and all that goes along with that mentality, including an out of control tort law situation and the acceptance of the idea that it is the government's responsibility to protect us from ourselves.
> Bud Osbourne
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> To: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>; "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
> 
> 
>>> Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. . .
>> It should have. Maybe it was because a Corvair could go fast enough to get
>> into trouble. More likely, Nader didn't dislike Germany.
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  2 23:11:46 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 01:11:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikf7eaAfO1k7u6mUtoG0kjHE50iPDFm0laYgC1b@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/2/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
VW had the balls to confront the lyin' weasel   Too bad VW didn't
follow through and crush that miserable creep.  --

Damn, Bud! Why do you have to sugar coat it? Why don't you just say
what yer thinkin?

Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From pfeilmat at me.com  Fri Jul  2 23:41:26 2010
From: pfeilmat at me.com (Matthew Pfeil)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 22:41:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikf7eaAfO1k7u6mUtoG0kjHE50iPDFm0laYgC1b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
	<AANLkTikf7eaAfO1k7u6mUtoG0kjHE50iPDFm0laYgC1b@mail.gmail.com>
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Yah, I think he is holding back!

Matt P
Yubaville CA
No More LBCs.
On Jul 2, 2010, at 10:11 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:

> On 7/2/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
> VW had the balls to confront the lyin' weasel   Too bad VW didn't
> follow through and crush that miserable creep.  --
> 
> Damn, Bud! Why do you have to sugar coat it? Why don't you just say
> what yer thinkin?
> 
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
> 1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul  3 06:59:24 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 05:59:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Goodwood Festival of Speed -Live Video Feed
Message-ID: <989382.39432.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Watch the Festival live here: 
http://www.insideracinglive.com/#InsideRacingLive

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

From abcoz at hky.com  Sat Jul  3 07:44:25 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 09:44:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikf7eaAfO1k7u6mUtoG0kjHE50iPDFm0laYgC1b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
	<AANLkTikf7eaAfO1k7u6mUtoG0kjHE50iPDFm0laYgC1b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FE5E2BB712C44692AD21EC8DA6AF96D6@OwnerPC>

Heh, heh, I guess I'm just too easy going at my advanced age ;)
Bud
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CosmicMag1380" <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair


> On 7/2/10, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:
> VW had the balls to confront the lyin' weasel   Too bad VW didn't
> follow through and crush that miserable creep.  --
>
> Damn, Bud! Why do you have to sugar coat it? Why don't you just say
> what yer thinkin?
>
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
> 1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jul  3 09:57:31 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 11:57:31 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] alternative fuel pumps
Message-ID: <4c6d2.7a605e91.3960b7eb@aol.com>

Coils usually are hot and the oil inside most of them is their to cool  
them.  When the coil starts to go bad you might findr high rpm and cold  
weather starting are not as good as they used to be.
 
What is a good temperature for a coil to run at?  I don't know but if  
anyone does I'd be interested.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330 
 
In a message dated 02/07/2010 22:36:04 GMT Daylight Time,  
tr3.4.me at gmail.com writes:

Also  noticed my coil seemed quite hot after a 15 minute drive so
possibly I need  to replace it too. Any thoughts on that too??

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Jul  3 12:32:18 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:32:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <E9C8C957-E85B-402A-8800-1BEA66BB104C@me.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
	<E9C8C957-E85B-402A-8800-1BEA66BB104C@me.com>
Message-ID: <A9F1773B-4325-4AD2-80B7-99DDC9FE578F@comcast.net>

I remember my father saying that the Corvair had no restraining straps and
under certain conditions a rear axle could droop so much as to cause severe
instability.  But that is my failing memory.  I distinctly remember stumbling
on a copy of "unsafe" where dad had marked it all up with comments like, "no
data to back this up", "Emotional not factual", things like that.

Lester


On Jul 2, 2010, at 11:46 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> Nader was on a revenge crusade because his favorite law professor was
seriously injured or killed, I do not remember which, in an accident driving a
Corvair.  Among other things the professor seems to have ignored the tire
pressure.  The front and rear tire pressures on Corvairs were significantly
different and many people like today put the same pressure in all of the tires
if they checked them at all.  That coupled with the rear engine resulted in
the rear end going some where other than where one might want.  Nader's
argument in his book claiming the rear suspension was the problem was totally
idiotic.
>
> Road & Track to Nader to task on the VW bus, just do not remember the year.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage
>
> On Jul 2, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Bud Osbourne wrote:
>
>> Actually, VW caught the sonofabitch using bogus information to make his
case.  Bogus as in "fabricated" to suit his purpose.  VW had the balls to
confront the lyin' weasel whereas GM just kind of stuck their head in the sand
and hoped it would all blow over/go away.  Nader just kind of "dropped" the
subject of the VW, for which VW didn't press the matter.  Too bad VW didn't
follow through and crush that miserable creep.  Instead, Nader was allowed to
spread more of his crap around and further the cause of "I'm not responsible
for my own stupidity" and all that goes along with that mentality, including
an out of control tort law situation and the acceptance of the idea that it is
the government's responsibility to protect us from ourselves.
>> Bud Osbourne
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
>> To: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>; "Ed's Shop"
<shop at justbrits.com>
>> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
>>
>>
>>>> Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. .
.
>>> It should have. Maybe it was because a Corvair could go fast enough to
get
>>> into trouble. More likely, Nader didn't dislike Germany.
>> _______________________________________________
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From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Sat Jul  3 11:44:29 2010
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:44:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OHSHIT not again
Message-ID: <14B5F4D2-086A-4A08-B937-5A9B23AE1F24@comcast.net>

HI Everyone,

I am at a point with Kristi's car that i need some help. I cannot even
describe the problems that we are having but I am pretty sure they are carb
related. If there is anyone out there that has a free day and knows about
carbs I could use your help. I would like to put an OSHIT together to get
Kristi's car up and going, it has only been driven twice in two years and each
time it was driven a new problem arose. So you carb experts, send me an email
if you are available so that we can set up a time to do an OSHIT. Thanks for
your help.

From biffjones at verizon.net  Sat Jul  3 13:14:50 2010
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 15:14:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC><E9C8C957-E85B-402A-8800-1BEA66BB104C@me.com>
	<A9F1773B-4325-4AD2-80B7-99DDC9FE578F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <202F6261E2404932826832FB64C90D6F@dell1>

Lester,

Your father was correct about the axles having no restraining straps and yes 
(BTDT) they could 'droop' enough resulting in riding on the sidewall of the 
tire.  I had a brand new Corvair Monza Spider convertible and the axle 
problem happened to me a couple of times once I mastered how to keep the 
front end forward.  I can't remember how many times I swapped ends before I 
managed to retrain my cornering techniques.  There is a long story as to why 
I never made my first payment on the car and why the dealer took it back and 
gave me not only my money back but a '60 Corvette free.

Biff 

From nases at verizon.net  Sat Jul  3 13:48:57 2010
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 15:48:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <202F6261E2404932826832FB64C90D6F@dell1>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC><E9C8C957-E85B-402A-8800-1BEA66BB104C@me.com>
	<A9F1773B-4325-4AD2-80B7-99DDC9FE578F@comcast.net>
	<202F6261E2404932826832FB64C90D6F@dell1>
Message-ID: <12E78251-397A-436A-AC6F-A6671AE7A09C@verizon.net>

I'd like to hear that story, Biff.  You should write it up and post it on your
website.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On Jul 3, 2010, at 3:14 PM, "Biff Jones" <biffjones at verizon.net> wrote:

> Lester,
>
> Your father was correct about the axles having no restraining straps and yes
(BTDT) they could 'droop' enough resulting in riding on the sidewall of the
tire.  I had a brand new Corvair Monza Spider convertible and the axle problem
happened to me a couple of times once I mastered how to keep the front end
forward.  I can't remember how many times I swapped ends before I managed to
retrain my cornering techniques.  There is a long story as to why I never made
my first payment on the car and why the dealer took it back and gave me not
only my money back but a '60 Corvette free.
>
> Biff _______________________________________________

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 14:50:10 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:50:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help.. . Air Compressor Question!
Message-ID: <AANLkTikpaXJQgDFTeTz4FOHIvGTQ1b4JD4vaOjEcqaI5@mail.gmail.com>

I have an American made 60 gallon by Husky that runs on 220. .

It has served me well through the years. .  however, today, when I opened
the bottom drain I am getting a mix of water and oil.  I checked the dip
stick to the pump. .   with the oil level being down by just a bit, but no
water evidence showing in the oil that resides in the pump.

It comes out in a pasty off white with the smell of oil.  At what point
would oil in the pump be able to pass through into the air supply?

Has anyone on the list ever experienced this?

Thanks,

Kirk
59 1275

From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Sat Jul  3 15:00:15 2010
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 17:00:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OHSHIT not again
In-Reply-To: <973114.60071.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <14B5F4D2-086A-4A08-B937-5A9B23AE1F24@comcast.net>
	<973114.60071.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <617A14F2-49CB-4C10-91A7-BBB21725547D@comcast.net>

Sorry

I am in Pottstown, PA

Lambert


On Jul 3, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Edward Perez wrote:

> you need to let us know where you are located....
>
> Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>
>
> From: Kristi & Lambert <kristi74midget at comcast.net>
> To: Spridget List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sat, July 3, 2010 10:44:29 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] OHSHIT not again
>
> HI Everyone,
>
> I am at a point with Kristi's car that i need some help. I cannot even
> describe the problems that we are having but I am pretty sure they are carb
> related. If there is anyone out there that has a free day and knows about
> carbs I could use your help. I would like to put an OSHIT together to get
> Kristi's car up and going, it has only been driven twice in two years and
each
> time it was driven a new problem arose. So you carb experts, send me an
email
> if you are available so that we can set up a time to do an OSHIT. Thanks
for
> your help.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 15:00:43 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 14:00:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilohQK9rgSprIxFMSmTJ9buY7tQpq1FDyCU5ckG@mail.gmail.com>

RIght on.  . Nader found a way to get his name in the press. .  at the
expense of a beautiful car that was and is loved by many.

This is an interesting story. .  elderly lover of her Corvair buried in her
car, as per her request.  With pic showing her going into the ground at the
cemetery inside of her beloved car.

"Woman takes her Corvair for an Eternal Cruise"

http://www.corvaircorsa.com/heaven.html

*I think I read that later on, GM changed the rear end of the Corvair to
avoid further BS coming from the Nader camp?

Not sure about this. . seems to be something that I remember reading?
*

Kirk

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Bud Osbourne <abcoz at hky.com> wrote:

> Actually, VW caught the sonofabitch using bogus information to make his
> case.  Bogus as in "fabricated" to suit his purpose.  VW had the balls to
> confront the lyin' weasel whereas GM just kind of stuck their head in the
> sand and hoped it would all blow over/go away.  Nader just kind of "dropped"
> the subject of the VW, for which VW didn't press the matter.  Too bad VW
> didn't follow through and crush that miserable creep.  Instead, Nader was
> allowed to spread more of his crap around and further the cause of "I'm not
> responsible for my own stupidity" and all that goes along with that
> mentality, including an out of control tort law situation and the acceptance
> of the idea that it is the government's responsibility to protect us from
> ourselves.
> Bud Osbourne
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> To: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>; "Ed's Shop" <
> shop at justbrits.com>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
>
>
>
>  Same as the older VW Beetle as I recall?  And it never came under fire. .
>>> .
>>>
>> It should have. Maybe it was because a Corvair could go fast enough to get
>> into trouble. More likely, Nader didn't dislike Germany.

From bkitterer at me.com  Sat Jul  3 15:28:37 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 14:28:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
Message-ID: <3781D289-5025-46BC-B539-696FA8A83373@me.com>

There was no question that in the 1950's; 60's and 70's almost all American cars in particular were not even reasonably safe.  Most had brakes that were inadequate for the power and speeds the car was capable of achieving, many you needed to take sea sick pills to go on any extended trip because they wallowed around so much and heaven help you if you needed to make any kind of rapid maneuver.  Among the various problems with Nader and his crusade was that he had no hesitation to lie if it would fit his purpose and as best as I can tell never consulted any technical person as to his claims to mechanical items.  

As for the VW van almost the entire report that his group did was false.  This is not to say that there were not safety problems with the VW van.  But the Nader group report was aimed at killing the van as they had done with the Covair by the use of false information.  Times had changed by then and Road & Track took them to task to support their claims which they could not do.  Even in the light of this Nader refused change his support for the report.  Maybe some one has a big collection of R&T and can look this up, mine are gone.

As far as Nader making the world a better place is a matter of opinion but having spent a life time doing research I can see where the work done by me and my colleagues has improved our world.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Jul 3, 2010, at 6:16 AM, Mark Wemple wrote:

> Funny guys, cause I remember indepedent video, not by Nader, that showed the carvsir's propensity for not only spinning but for flipping. Aldo, having owned a VW bus I would not want to be the one to argue that they were safe. I love them but they are very dangerous in the wrong hands. Also, having met Nader several tes, I am proud to have known him and the world is a better place because of him. Can the same be said of you?

From bkitterer at me.com  Sat Jul  3 15:32:52 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 14:32:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilohQK9rgSprIxFMSmTJ9buY7tQpq1FDyCU5ckG@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C853B999.1923C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<EFA0CC4106F34B419E6993817ED3F86B@OwnerPC>
	<AANLkTilohQK9rgSprIxFMSmTJ9buY7tQpq1FDyCU5ckG@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <842119A4-993E-4500-B340-02C35AC5466D@me.com>

GM had changed to double universal joints on both axles before Nader published his book.  This was a similar set up as used on rear engined formula cars.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Jul 3, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

> *I think I read that later on, GM changed the rear end of the Corvair to
> avoid further BS coming from the Nader camp?

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 16:01:15 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 15:01:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Facet Question
Message-ID: <AANLkTim_F6msHNmkekioKt7LDQC73VkUwrOfpzhTBV_z@mail.gmail.com>

I have been running a Facet as a puller for a good 5 years+  and have had
nothing to complain about.  No pressure regulator. . just the Facet.

However, I have yet to see another Facet like the one I am using.  The one I
have has a black plastic case.   rounded design. . not like the square metal
types that I have seen.

I paid a "whopping" $39.0 for it several years ago from a Napa auto parts
store.

Is the Facet that I am using different in out put per chance than the more
"standard" metal case types that I have seen?  Has anyone seen this type of
Facet before. .?

Just curious as it appears to me to be a bit different than the "standard"
types I have seen through the years.

Kirk
59 1275

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul  3 16:24:22 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 16:24:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Help.. . Air Compressor Question!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikpaXJQgDFTeTz4FOHIvGTQ1b4JD4vaOjEcqaI5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikpaXJQgDFTeTz4FOHIvGTQ1b4JD4vaOjEcqaI5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikySAjHJxo-ibtvpQsB9-hFN37ax3Al2QWNDMm2@mail.gmail.com>

> It comes out in a pasty off white with the smell of oil.  At what point
> would oil in the pump be able to pass through into the air supply?
>

When the rings wear out.

Pasty off white = oil+water+air.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jul  3 19:34:07 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 21:34:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Help.. . Air Compressor Question!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikpaXJQgDFTeTz4FOHIvGTQ1b4JD4vaOjEcqaI5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikpaXJQgDFTeTz4FOHIvGTQ1b4JD4vaOjEcqaI5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C2FE50F.6030807@comcast.net>

On 7/3/2010 4:50 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

> It comes out in a pasty off white with the smell of oil.  At what point
> would oil in the pump be able to pass through into the air supply?
>
> Has anyone on the list ever experienced this?

Bad rings. Just don't paint anything with it now.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Jul  4 06:13:42 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 08:13:42 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Hydrogen Peroxide Race Car From the 50's
Message-ID: <1c62a.5c940c9.3961d4f6@aol.com>

Was he your boss long after that?
 
 
In a message dated 02/07/2010 00:56:38 GMT Daylight Time,  
mdrowe at optonline.net writes:

I had a  Corvair of that vintage.  When I got my Sprite, I sold the Corvair 
to  my boss.  The next day, the engine broke off and fell out on the street 
 
when he backed out of his garage.

Michael  Rowe

From proefrock at comcast.net  Sun Jul  4 09:10:13 2010
From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 10:10:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Facet Question
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim_F6msHNmkekioKt7LDQC73VkUwrOfpzhTBV_z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim_F6msHNmkekioKt7LDQC73VkUwrOfpzhTBV_z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37AFCEC7-2510-4CD5-AE95-C9E0E3EA059D@comcast.net>

I have one of those. A pusher in the stock location. Also got it from  
NAPA, in 2005. A little noisy. Works like it's supposed to.

On Jul 3, 2010, at 5:01 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

> I have been running a Facet as a puller for a good 5 years+  and  
> have had
> nothing to complain about.  No pressure regulator. . just the Facet.
>
> However, I have yet to see another Facet like the one I am using.   
> The one I
> have has a black plastic case.   rounded design. . not like the  
> square metal
> types that I have seen.
>
> I paid a "whopping" $39.0 for it several years ago from a Napa auto  
> parts
> store.
>
> Is the Facet that I am using different in out put per chance than  
> the more
> "standard" metal case types that I have seen?  Has anyone seen this  
> type of
> Facet before. .?
>
> Just curious as it appears to me to be a bit different than the  
> "standard"
> types I have seen through the years.
>
> Kirk
> 59 1275
> _______________________________________________
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 09:50:40 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 09:50:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Facet Question
In-Reply-To: <37AFCEC7-2510-4CD5-AE95-C9E0E3EA059D@comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTim_F6msHNmkekioKt7LDQC73VkUwrOfpzhTBV_z@mail.gmail.com>
	<37AFCEC7-2510-4CD5-AE95-C9E0E3EA059D@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimbD53OT2nukB33qO7k7Ds77kYNcYXd2ORehnZk@mail.gmail.com>

I like the noise.  It lets me know it is working and if the noise is
different it may be an indicator.

>  A little noisy. Works like it's supposed to.

From chris_west at juno.com  Sun Jul  4 10:49:45 2010
From: chris_west at juno.com (chris_west at juno.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 12:49:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Facet Question
Message-ID: <20100704.094959.965.282479@mailpop01.vgs.untd.com>

Kirk wrote:
               However, I have yet to see another Facet like the one I am
using.  The one I
have has a black plastic case.   rounded design. . not like the square
metal
types that I have seen.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------

Kirk, this sounds like the pump sold as "Mr. Gasket" brand #12s.   Google
a picture to see if it is the same pump.


Chris - AN5L35xxx

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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 12:50:03 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 11:50:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help.. . Air Compressor Question!
In-Reply-To: <4C2FE50F.6030807@comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTikpaXJQgDFTeTz4FOHIvGTQ1b4JD4vaOjEcqaI5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C2FE50F.6030807@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinKS9DWyDBGqtsR5Y_XTrb5HbF8vXntUgu-bSSL@mail.gmail.com>

Bummer. .  as it has been my paint compressor for the last several years.
Although I will say that I am still getting good jobs out of it. . but I
also have three filters in the system with the filter in my spray booth a
large canister type which goes to the small filter on the but of the spray
gun. . and then the typical filter on the outlet of the compressor.  Yet as
it worsens, no doubt the thing will be relegated to non paint work.

Thanks. .

Kirk

On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> On 7/3/2010 4:50 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
>
>  It comes out in a pasty off white with the smell of oil.  At what point
>> would oil in the pump be able to pass through into the air supply?
>>
>> Has anyone on the list ever experienced this?
>>
>
> Bad rings. Just don't paint anything with it now.
>
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jul  4 13:13:07 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 12:13:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: 2009 Lime Rock Vintage Race Photos
Message-ID: <904529.66129.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Some great shots from brother Bob. For the Spridget list, there's a Corvair in pic 88 ;-0.


--- On Sun, 7/4/10, Bob Soave <kestrel2 at optonline.net> wrote:

Folks,
Here's a link to some pix I took at last year's vintage race at Lime Rock, CT. Quite an experience, and a very impressive array of hardware (several Bugattis, among other things).
http://s1043.photobucket.com/albums/b435/bob_soave/Lime%20Rock%20Vintage%20Race%202009/

Regards,Bob

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sun Jul  4 15:14:44 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 21:14:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
Message-ID: <1625484838.647211278278084447.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Ah that lovely time every year when those minor issues suddenly become worrisome. 
My inspection is scheduled for Thursday and a few issues that I have been ignoring are potentialey going to be big issues. 

Lights: my passenger side front and side running lights do not work but do work when I use my right turn signal. Any ideas as to where the connection to fix this might be ( and please don't say under/behind the dash)? 

Speedomiter: yes once again I have neglected doing anything to try and fix this because who looks at the speedomiter when driving you look at the road listen to the engine and try not to pass too many people. but seriously the cable spins fine through 1st and 2nd but in 3rd after 40 mph the needle just works its way to 70, 80, 90... and often does settle down till i have come to a complete stop. shifting to 4th gives me a moment of "real speed determination" before it to heads towards triple digits. however on longer rides it begins to react less and less and then eventually the cable stops spinning altogether. 
This I am hoping I will be able to fix at our next OSHIT and since the mechanic only takes it for a short "test drive" i will pass fixed or not. 

But the light issue I need to fix ASAP or at least before wed. night. 
Help! 
Ryan 
Happy 4th America 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Jul  4 16:05:09 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 15:05:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <1625484838.647211278278084447.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C85653A5.2877D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Where do you live that requires inspection? Are you in the UK?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 16:14:36 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 17:14:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <1625484838.647211278278084447.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1625484838.647211278278084447.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinePJatMsflDCuwWKhPsffY3IMuYHlN4JnK3_ye@mail.gmail.com>

Ryan,

Don't know if it's the right answer or not but the very first step I'd take
is to clean all the bulb sockets and bulb bases to make sure there is good
contact.   Without being there to fiddle with it, that's the best advise I
can provide...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:14 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:

> Ah that lovely time every year when those minor issues suddenly become
> worrisome.
> My inspection is scheduled for Thursday and a few issues that I have been
> ignoring are potentialey going to be big issues.
>
> Lights: my passenger side front and side running lights do not work but do
> work when I use my right turn signal. Any ideas as to where the connection
> to fix this might be ( and please don't say under/behind the dash)?
>
> Speedomiter: yes once again I have neglected doing anything to try and fix
> this because who looks at the speedomiter when driving you look at the road
> listen to the engine and try not to pass too many people. but seriously the
> cable spins fine through 1st and 2nd but in 3rd after 40 mph the needle
just
> works its way to 70, 80, 90... and often does settle down till i have come
> to a complete stop. shifting to 4th gives me a moment of "real speed
> determination" before it to heads towards triple digits. however on longer
> rides it begins to react less and less and then eventually the cable stops
> spinning altogether.
> This I am hoping I will be able to fix at our next OSHIT and since the
> mechanic only takes it for a short "test drive" i will pass fixed or not.
>
> But the light issue I need to fix ASAP or at least before wed. night.
> Help!
> Ryan
> Happy 4th America
> _______________________________________________
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Cheers!!
Jim
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       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 16:27:42 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 22:27:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <1625484838.647211278278084447.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1625484838.647211278278084447.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.14.1278282425.911.spridgets@autox.team.net>

Have you checked that you have a good ground at the lights? Bad grounds can create havoc.

The speedometer is weird. The cable is driven by a worm gear of the third motion shaft. It has no way of knowing what gear you are in. Did you check to see that all the cables are on tight and the cable is lubricated?
Steve

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 21:14:44 
To: spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...

Ah that lovely time every year when those minor issues suddenly become worrisome. 
My inspection is scheduled for Thursday and a few issues that I have been ignoring are potentialey going to be big issues. 

Lights: my passenger side front and side running lights do not work but do work when I use my right turn signal. Any ideas as to where the connection to fix this might be ( and please don't say under/behind the dash)? 

Speedomiter: yes once again I have neglected doing anything to try and fix this because who looks at the speedomiter when driving you look at the road listen to the engine and try not to pass too many people. but seriously the cable spins fine through 1st and 2nd but in 3rd after 40 mph the needle just works its way to 70, 80, 90... and often does settle down till i have come to a complete stop. shifting to 4th gives me a moment of "real speed determination" before it to heads towards triple digits. however on longer rides it begins to react less and less and then eventually the cable stops spinning altogether. 
This I am hoping I will be able to fix at our next OSHIT and since the mechanic only takes it for a short "test drive" i will pass fixed or not. 

But the light issue I need to fix ASAP or at least before wed. night. 
Help! 
Ryan 
Happy 4th America 
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From ggilomen at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 17:43:51 2010
From: ggilomen at gmail.com (Gordon Gilomen)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 18:43:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Front crank pulley
Message-ID: <AANLkTilVJ2XrPAxiRACoS_1xS7Hdf0vQhyzI3hgbFTrR@mail.gmail.com>

The front crank pulley went on the 948 today.  I need to know if a
later 1275 pulley with damper is a straight bolt on replacement?  From
what I see in the Moss catalog it looks like I can do this.

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 17:46:52 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 16:46:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <C85653A5.2877D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <1625484838.647211278278084447.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<C85653A5.2877D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim4x-UncrYUGkSnUm4RXx6J_TxkI-00vAT6IqXe@mail.gmail.com>

Billy,
Don't let them know that CA is not the authoritarian state they think it
is!  If they get wise more of them might want to move here and make the
place crowded.  As long as they labor under the false impression that the
Golden State is Big Brother Land we don't have to worry.
Hal

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> Where do you live that requires inspection? Are you in the UK?
> _______________________________________________
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From twobees at sprynet.com  Sun Jul  4 18:54:25 2010
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 20:54:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
Message-ID: <001301cb1bdc$9d5c7b70$6401a8c0@normoffice>

Need to get in on this one...

I had a 1964 Corvair Spyder Coupe.  A VERY fun car.  Had it at same time as
'65 MGB I bought new.  Bought Spyder with c. 15,000 miles on it.  Once I
learned to put a Corvette fan belt on it, it was a great street racer.
(Stock belts got soft & stretched)  I used to goad small-block Chevys & Ford
into races from about 15 mph.  I held speed with the brake while flooring
the gas until turbo pressure built to max.  Then it was "Go!"  Sure they
passed me at about 50 or 60.  But, until then, it was a shock to those other
drivers.

As for cornering, I had heard about Nader's rants.  There may have been some
truth to it with the pre-'64 cars. With the '64 model year, GM installed a
"camber compensator" spring that controlled axle drop.  My '64 Spyder with
Pirelli Cinturatos cornered like it was on rails.  It had better grip than
the B.  And, in snow...only riding up onto a snow bank could stop it.

In '65 with the re-design, Chevy had made the Corvair into a really great
car.  And, then Don Yenko got his hand on some.  John Fitch did too.  But,
the Yenko Stingers are still hot in vintage racing.

Cheers!

Norm
The Turner guy

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 18:57:19 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 19:57:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim4x-UncrYUGkSnUm4RXx6J_TxkI-00vAT6IqXe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1625484838.647211278278084447.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<C85653A5.2877D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<AANLkTim4x-UncrYUGkSnUm4RXx6J_TxkI-00vAT6IqXe@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

> <snip>...might want to move here and make the place crowded....


Ummmm....   I live in west Kansas.  CA is arm pit to a$$hole by comparison
;-)

If I recall correctly Ryan lives in Pennsylvania.

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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jul  4 19:51:55 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:51:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump question --- NOT LBC!!
Message-ID: <4C313ABB.31952.29EBC59@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Just came back from my boys house.. 
he asked me for help on his Ford Probe (Sorry!),,, no fuel getting up 
front and the fuel light is ON... he has (had) gas in the tank...
We 'think' we hear the fuel relay click when you turn the key.

He dropped the tank and removed the pump to bench test.
The pump runs when 12V is applied to the terminals BUT (here's the 
question), should there be enough pressure or vacuum at the pump so 
that I could feel it with my fingers??
I feel no pressure even tho' the pump is running..

TIA

-- 
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DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul  4 20:06:13 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 19:06:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
In-Reply-To: <001301cb1bdc$9d5c7b70$6401a8c0@normoffice>
References: <001301cb1bdc$9d5c7b70$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <8D4DF640F4A5442A8913F03446A28516@spider>

http://corvaircorsa.com/
. . . bill in corvallis
==================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norm 2Bs
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 5:54 PM
To: Spridgets Digest
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair

Need to get in on this one...

I had a 1964 Corvair Spyder Coupe.  A VERY fun car.  Had it at same time as
'65 MGB I bought new.  Bought Spyder with c. 15,000 miles on it.  Once I
learned to put a Corvette fan belt on it, it was a great street racer.
(Stock belts got soft & stretched)  I used to goad small-block Chevys & Ford
into races from about 15 mph.  I held speed with the brake while flooring
the gas until turbo pressure built to max.  Then it was "Go!"  Sure they
passed me at about 50 or 60.  But, until then, it was a shock to those other
drivers.

As for cornering, I had heard about Nader's rants.  There may have been some
truth to it with the pre-'64 cars. With the '64 model year, GM installed a
"camber compensator" spring that controlled axle drop.  My '64 Spyder with
Pirelli Cinturatos cornered like it was on rails.  It had better grip than
the B.  And, in snow...only riding up onto a snow bank could stop it.

In '65 with the re-design, Chevy had made the Corvair into a really great
car.  And, then Don Yenko got his hand on some.  John Fitch did too.  But,
the Yenko Stingers are still hot in vintage racing.

Cheers!

Norm
The Turner guy
_______________________________________________

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sun Jul  4 20:28:01 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 02:28:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <179677742-1278282475-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1748427138-@bda334.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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i first thought that but wouldn't that cause the lights to not work when the headlights or the turn signals were on. These 2 lights work when the tur signals are on but not when the headlights are on.? 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "an5 sprite" <an5.sprite at gmail.com> 
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>, spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2010 6:27:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inspection time again... 

Have you checked that you have a good ground at the lights? Bad grounds can create havoc. 

The speedometer is weird. The cable is driven by a worm gear of the third motion shaft. It has no way of knowing what gear you are in. Did you check to see that all the cables are on tight and the cable is lubricated? 
Steve 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 

-----Original Message----- 
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Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net 
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 21:14:44 
To: spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again... 

Ah that lovely time every year when those minor issues suddenly become worrisome. 
My inspection is scheduled for Thursday and a few issues that I have been ignoring are potentialey going to be big issues. 

Lights: my passenger side front and side running lights do not work but do work when I use my right turn signal. Any ideas as to where the connection to fix this might be ( and please don't say under/behind the dash)? 

Speedomiter: yes once again I have neglected doing anything to try and fix this because who looks at the speedomiter when driving you look at the road listen to the engine and try not to pass too many people. but seriously the cable spins fine through 1st and 2nd but in 3rd after 40 mph the needle just works its way to 70, 80, 90... and often does settle down till i have come to a complete stop. shifting to 4th gives me a moment of "real speed determination" before it to heads towards triple digits. however on longer rides it begins to react less and less and then eventually the cable stops spinning altogether. 
This I am hoping I will be able to fix at our next OSHIT and since the mechanic only takes it for a short "test drive" i will pass fixed or not. 

But the light issue I need to fix ASAP or at least before wed. night. 
Help! 
Ryan 
Happy 4th America 
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jul  4 21:04:31 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 23:04:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump question --- NOT LBC!!
In-Reply-To: <4C313ABB.31952.29EBC59@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4C313ABB.31952.29EBC59@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CE0B39E3310644DFA1D6BF6F4AF92F0D@blackbox2>

This is fuel injection...Right?

Did you check to see if the inertial cut off switch triggered?
Sometimes this falsely triggers when the hatch back is slamed shut.
I don't think this is your issue but it is something to always check first
before pulling the pump out.

The best way to make sure it is working is by measuring pressure on the fuel
rail schrader valve by the injectors.

What happens with the Ford fuel pumps is after high mileage, they tend to
stick when it's hot out and the car won't start.  Sometimes the car will
start again after it's left to cool overnight (or even an hour or so).  

This all means that it is pump replacement time.  Even if you get it running
on the bench you will risk it failing again after you put it back in.
Just bite the bullet and get a new pump.

When I had the pump changed on my 03 Sport Trac the mechanic indicated that
the replacement Ford pumps were improved to better tolerate the high ethanol
content that is now prevalent. 

BTW, Neglecting to change the fuel filter ever 20K miles also leads to
pre-mature pump failure.  So order a new fuel filter when you order the
pump.
You'll also need the special fuel line fitting tools that go for about $20. 





-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 9:52 PM
To: spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump question --- NOT LBC!!

Just came back from my boys house.. 
he asked me for help on his Ford Probe (Sorry!),,, no fuel getting up 
front and the fuel light is ON... he has (had) gas in the tank...
We 'think' we hear the fuel relay click when you turn the key.

He dropped the tank and removed the pump to bench test.
The pump runs when 12V is applied to the terminals BUT (here's the 
question), should there be enough pressure or vacuum at the pump so 
that I could feel it with my fingers??
I feel no pressure even tho' the pump is running..

TIA

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul  4 21:32:30 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 22:32:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
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References: <179677742-1278282475-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1748427138-@bda334.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<1635130585.688771278296881337.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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Ryan,

Bad grounds in a light circuit cause all kinds of weird things. Clean the
bulb bases, the sockets and check the ground connections. Get your wiring
diagram out and carefully trace the circuits involved. There will be a silly
and simple solution to your light problem. I'm betting it will be a bad
connection in the circuit either the ground or the bulb sockets.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:28 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:

> i first thought that but wouldn't that cause the lights to not work when
> the headlights or the turn signals were on. These 2 lights work when the
tur
> signals are on but not when the headlights are on.?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "an5 sprite" <an5.sprite at gmail.com>
> To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>,
> spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2010 6:27:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
>
> Have you checked that you have a good ground at the lights? Bad grounds can
> create havoc.
>
> The speedometer is weird. The cable is driven by a worm gear of the third
> motion shaft. It has no way of knowing what gear you are in. Did you check
> to see that all the cables are on tight and the cable is lubricated?
> Steve
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 21:14:44
> To: spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
>
> Ah that lovely time every year when those minor issues suddenly become
> worrisome.
> My inspection is scheduled for Thursday and a few issues that I have been
> ignoring are potentialey going to be big issues.
>
> Lights: my passenger side front and side running lights do not work but do
> work when I use my right turn signal. Any ideas as to where the connection
> to fix this might be ( and please don't say under/behind the dash)?
>
> Speedomiter: yes once again I have neglected doing anything to try and fix
> this because who looks at the speedomiter when driving you look at the road
> listen to the engine and try not to pass too many people. but seriously the
> cable spins fine through 1st and 2nd but in 3rd after 40 mph the needle
just
> works its way to 70, 80, 90... and often does settle down till i have come
> to a complete stop. shifting to 4th gives me a moment of "real speed
> determination" before it to heads towards triple digits. however on longer
> rides it begins to react less and less and then eventually the cable stops
> spinning altogether.
> This I am hoping I will be able to fix at our next OSHIT and since the
> mechanic only takes it for a short "test drive" i will pass fixed or not.
>
> But the light issue I need to fix ASAP or at least before wed. night.
> Help!
> Ryan
> Happy 4th America
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From pchast at francomm.com  Sun Jul  4 21:55:12 2010
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2010 23:55:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <20100704230210.2700B1879AA@autox.team.net>
References: <1625484838.647211278278084447.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<20100704230210.2700B1879AA@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <op.vfcqiaezsjevdj@pete200>

I'd say its internal in the Spedo, either worn bushings or dirt
between the magnet and pickup.

Pete
Athens, NY

On Sun, 04 Jul 2010 18:27:42 -0400, <an5.sprite at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Have you checked that you have a good ground at the lights? Bad grounds  
> can create havoc.
>
> The speedometer is weird. The cable is driven by a worm gear of the  
> third motion shaft. It has no way of knowing what gear you are in. Did  
> you check to see that all the cables are on tight and the cable is  
> lubricated?
> Steve
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 21:14:44
> To: spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
>
> Ah that lovely time every year when those minor issues suddenly become  
> worrisome.
> My inspection is scheduled for Thursday and a few issues that I have  
> been ignoring are potentialey going to be big issues.
>
> Lights: my passenger side front and side running lights do not work but  
> do work when I use my right turn signal. Any ideas as to where the  
> connection to fix this might be ( and please don't say under/behind the  
> dash)?
>
> Speedomiter: yes once again I have neglected doing anything to try and  
> fix this because who looks at the speedomiter when driving you look at  
> the road listen to the engine and try not to pass too many people. but  
> seriously the cable spins fine through 1st and 2nd but in 3rd after 40  
> mph the needle just works its way to 70, 80, 90... and often does settle  
> down till i have come to a complete stop. shifting to 4th gives me a  
> moment of "real speed determination" before it to heads towards triple  
> digits. however on longer rides it begins to react less and less and  
> then eventually the cable stops spinning altogether.
> This I am hoping I will be able to fix at our next OSHIT and since the  
> mechanic only takes it for a short "test drive" i will pass fixed or not.
>
> But the light issue I need to fix ASAP or at least before wed. night.
> Help!
> Ryan
> Happy 4th America
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jul  4 22:55:04 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 00:55:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Isuzu Trooper Starter
Message-ID: <D2B913839F2C4AB0BB9688B6575C3BCB@blackbox2>

Anybody tried this?  Should also work with the Spridget.

http://www.teglerizer.com/triumphstuff/73gt6br_tropperstarter.htm

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul  5 05:39:26 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 04:39:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <1635130585.688771278296881337.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <179677742-1278282475-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1748427138-@bda334.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<1635130585.688771278296881337.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <52E7FABC48D546A197AB2FBE0973CD8F@spider>

Anything can happen with poor connections; you get floating grounds where
the electrons seek the path of least resistance. Then things come on that
you wouldn't think are in the circuit. ...bill in corvallis
=====================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:28 PM
To: an5 sprite
Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net; spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...

I first thought that but wouldn't that cause the lights to not work when the
headlights or the turn signals were on. These 2 lights work when the tur
signals are on but not when the headlights are on.? 

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jul  5 08:22:26 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 07:22:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
Message-ID: <15f201cb1c4d$7e68fba0$116a010a@mail2world.com>

I had something similar happen in an old Toyota. Radio would come on
when you turned on the headlights. There was a cut wire behind the dash
that happened to be live when the lights were on, and the radio shorted
through it. Smack the dash and the radio would shut off.

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [corvallis at peoplepc.com]
>Sent: 7/5/2010 7:40:26 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
>
>Anything can happen with poor connections; you get floating grounds
where
>the electrons seek the path of least resistance. Then things come on
that
>you wouldn't think are in the circuit. ...bill in corvallis
>=====================================
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
>Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 7:28 PM
>To: an5 sprite
>Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net; spridgets
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
>
>I first thought that but wouldn't that cause the lights to not work
when the
>headlights or the turn signals were on. These 2 lights work when the
tur
>signals are on but not when the headlights are on.? 
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 09:40:26 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:40:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Isuzu Trooper Starter
In-Reply-To: <D2B913839F2C4AB0BB9688B6575C3BCB@blackbox2>
References: <D2B913839F2C4AB0BB9688B6575C3BCB@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinMl0UVVMWNIzdohc5bloez3KncbAs2cUEr8OFs@mail.gmail.com>

Yes.  It works fine, IIRC.  It is a more modern starter.  Some
reported having to make some room for it but I don't remember any
interference.
Here is a list if you are looking in a yard:

Isuzu Starter #16878

1989-90 Isuzu Amigo 2.6L

1989-94 Isuzu Amigo 2.3L

1988-89 Isuzu Impulse 2.3L

1985-89 Isuzu Impulse 2.0L Turbo

1988-89 Isuzu Pickup 2.6L

1986-94 Isuzu Pickup 2.3L

1988-90 Isuzu Trooper 2.6L

1986-87 Isuzu Trooper 2.3L

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 10:12:04 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:12:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
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Turns out it was 2 corroded connection and one busted bullet connector. All fixed (light wise) and ready for inspection. Thanks for the advise. 
Ryan 
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "an5 sprite" <an5.sprite at gmail.com> 
Cc: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2010 10:28:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inspection time again... 

i first thought that but wouldn't that cause the lights to not work when the headlights or the turn signals were on. These 2 lights work when the tur signals are on but not when the headlights are on.? 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "an5 sprite" <an5.sprite at gmail.com> 
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>, spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net, "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2010 6:27:42 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inspection time again... 

Have you checked that you have a good ground at the lights? Bad grounds can create havoc. 

The speedometer is weird. The cable is driven by a worm gear of the third motion shaft. It has no way of knowing what gear you are in. Did you check to see that all the cables are on tight and the cable is lubricated? 
Steve 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 

-----Original Message----- 
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net 
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net 
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 21:14:44 
To: spridgets<spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again... 

Ah that lovely time every year when those minor issues suddenly become worrisome. 
My inspection is scheduled for Thursday and a few issues that I have been ignoring are potentialey going to be big issues. 

Lights: my passenger side front and side running lights do not work but do work when I use my right turn signal. Any ideas as to where the connection to fix this might be ( and please don't say under/behind the dash)? 

Speedomiter: yes once again I have neglected doing anything to try and fix this because who looks at the speedomiter when driving you look at the road listen to the engine and try not to pass too many people. but seriously the cable spins fine through 1st and 2nd but in 3rd after 40 mph the needle just works its way to 70, 80, 90... and often does settle down till i have come to a complete stop. shifting to 4th gives me a moment of "real speed determination" before it to heads towards triple digits. however on longer rides it begins to react less and less and then eventually the cable stops spinning altogether. 
This I am hoping I will be able to fix at our next OSHIT and since the mechanic only takes it for a short "test drive" i will pass fixed or not. 

But the light issue I need to fix ASAP or at least before wed. night. 
Help! 
Ryan 
Happy 4th America 
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  5 10:24:09 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:24:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1978 Alfa Spider For Sale
Message-ID: <602091.99278.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Friends,
My Alfa Spider streetcar is up for sale with a reduced price of $2900 or offers. Car is in Roscoe, IL near WI border, 50 miles south of Madison WI, 70 miles west of O'Hare.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2063286&id=1341954812&l=383412d410.

This time I'm actually gonna advertise it and stuff - I am out of space. The car is a 1978 Spider Veloce. I drive it severla times a week for a 50 highway mile round trip to the Rockford Airport and it's great. 5 speed in 5th is a very pleasant experience with the top down, nothing the Mike Tyson-like experience of my Sprites at speed. There are two rust bubble clusters above each rear fender lip and that's it - the car is otherwise in beautiful cosmetic condition. Driver's seat has some seams splitting, but otherwise really nice. The top is original and is of very high quality. The rear window is original, and I currently have some packing tape doing some good work as a patch. 

The car has the 2.0L fuel injected (SPica) engine. I don't touch the Spica,and it leaves me alone. The motor was gone through by PO Bob Rewoldt maybe 12,000 miles ago and it is strong. I have been told it's faster than a normal Alfa - it has Shankle cams and header plus the Shankle "Smart Start". Gearbox was rebuilt by Bob,  it's better than the NEW Sprint Veloce I drove in the 80s. You can beat the 2nd gear synchro if you really set your mind to it, but it's as strong as any Alfa box I've driven. Car has never stranded me.

The bad - the aforementioned fender bubbles, and some weird electrics. The oil pressure was verified by me with a mechanical gauge as having 75 psi cold, but it reads all over the gauge randomly with 2 different senders. It probably needs a gauge. The fuel gauge is kaput as well, probably the sender. New trick - when you have the left directional on and hit the brake, the directional shuts off. I traced as much as I could, nothing obvious. Brake booster is acting a little weird too - I sometimes disconnect it and go manual. I drive the car with all these things - no big deal, but they should be fixable rather easily. I simply have too many other projects - somebody take this. It is a steal at the asking price. 

Ron

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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul  5 11:27:16 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 13:27:16 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
Message-ID: <28194.3d2c2e5b.39636ff4@aol.com>

That would be an MOT.
 
In a message dated 05/07/2010 00:00:23 GMT Daylight Time,  
billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:

Where do  you live that requires inspection? Are you in the UK?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul  5 11:26:45 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 13:26:45 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
Message-ID: <2812b.32d4bb1f.39636fd5@aol.com>

How do they check this at inspection?
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 04/07/2010 22:59:52 GMT Daylight Time,  
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net writes:

Speedomiter:

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul  5 11:36:09 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 13:36:09 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: 2009 Lime Rock Vintage Race Photos
Message-ID: <28853.3f883f84.39637209@aol.com>

I scrutineered the Le Mans Bentley a couple of years back when it was fresh 
 from LeMan, for a demo run.  Funnily enough it turned out it got  
scrutineered several times by different scrutineers.  Some on track  incident 
delayed the demo run and since time was short the Bentley fired up and  imediately 
laid 2 black lines down the pit lane. I think Guy Smith was driving  it.
 
In a message dated 04/07/2010 21:01:42 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com 
 writes:

--- On  Sun, 7/4/10, Bob Soave <kestrel2 at optonline.net>  wrote:

Folks,
Here's a link to some pix I took at last year's  vintage race at Lime Rock, 
CT. Quite an experience, and a very impressive  array of hardware (several 
Bugattis, among other  things).
http://s1043.photobucket.com/albums/b435/bob_soave/Lime%20Rock%20Vintage%20R
ace%202009/

Regards,Bob
_______________________________________________

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  5 11:56:06 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Isuzu Trooper Starter
In-Reply-To: <D2B913839F2C4AB0BB9688B6575C3BCB@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <813474.47833.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
I used one on the 1275 in my Morris.
Works fine - some cars the sheet metal has to be trimed to fit the starter,
I am not sure what models - just remember people mentioning the problem.
 
Vigil


--- On Sun, 7/4/10, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Isuzu Trooper Starter
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010, 9:55 PM


Anybody tried this?  Should also work with the Spridget.

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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 12:41:54 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 18:41:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <2812b.32d4bb1f.39636fd5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <1953049110.834771278355314749.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

they measure a 90 degree angle and time you to see how fast your car can make the joint. 
;- ) 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com 
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2010 1:26:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Inspection time again... 



How do they check this at inspection? 

Weslake-Monza 1330 

In a message dated 04/07/2010 22:59:52 GMT Daylight Time, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net writes: 

Speedomiter: 

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Jul  5 13:36:38 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 19:36:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] speedometer repair?
In-Reply-To: <D2B913839F2C4AB0BB9688B6575C3BCB@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <20100705193638.RHOSS.89781.root@hrndva-web02-z01>

Hi all-

my speedometer just started to wig out yesterday and appears to think 25 mph is 125 or so.  The odometer still seems true though.

Anything I can try without really messing up the innards?

thanks
Chris

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jul  5 13:49:00 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 14:49:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Inspection time again...
In-Reply-To: <1953049110.834771278355314749.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1953049110.834771278355314749.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <-3608922511452548938@unknownmsgid>

> they measure a 90 degree angle and time you to see how fast your car can make the joint.

Silly me, I thought the car was supposed to HIDE the joint.

From rdgard at cox.net  Mon Jul  5 14:00:13 2010
From: rdgard at cox.net (Bob Gardner)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 13:00:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Barn find.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1278352804.20169.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.17.1278352804.20169.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <A09B85A73E5B44C682776CA211ACB5EB@internetpc>

 Any one interested in three Bugeye project cars in San Diego.  Almost
complete and with many wonderful extra parts.  Almost no rust.

Cheers,

Bob in San Diego



Robert D. Gardner
 
Gardner Productions LLC
Film and Video Production since 1978
619-460-1000
www.gardnerproductions.com

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 19:00:07 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:00:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] speedometer repair?
In-Reply-To: <20100705193638.RHOSS.89781.root@hrndva-web02-z01>
References: <20100705193638.RHOSS.89781.root@hrndva-web02-z01>
Message-ID: <4C328017.3020008@comcast.net>

On 7/5/2010 3:36 PM, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote:
> Hi all-
>
> my speedometer just started to wig out yesterday and appears to think 25 mph is 125 or so.  The odometer still seems true though.
>
> Anything I can try without really messing up the innards?

The needle may be loose on the pin. Or the cable frayed and is making 
weird readings.
Of the needle slipped, open up the speedo, there should be a black mark 
on the balance wheel, this is ZERO. Roll the balance wheel and watch the 
needle, they should move evenly, 1/2 way on the wheel should be 50 mph. 
3/4 = 75 mph. but it will go past 100.
Hold the balance wheel near 1/2 way and push the needle to 50 mph then 
push the needle down on the pin with a fair amount of finger pressure 
only, no BFH on the speedometer needle ;)
You can also move the needle by holding it and moving the balance wheel 
if the needle is already tight.
Maybe that paper ring inside the glass got weak, drooped down and held 
the needle as the balance wheel moved the pin under it.
You can't hurt it by trying it but be gentle with the speedo guts, 
needle and pin.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Jul  5 20:32:54 2010
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon,  5 Jul 2010 20:32:54 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ATT Troubles
Message-ID: <20100706023254.9B6DA2E0E7@bradakis.com>

Those of you who have email that gets routed in various ways through
AT&T, like att.net, sbcglobal.net, pacbell, etc. Have most likely not
seen any Team.Net email for a few days.

For some reason AT&T was blocking Team.Net.  I have no idea why, what
started it, and you folks don't pay me enough to waste a day on the
phone sifting through an endless stream of clueless "tech support"
drones to find out why.

I have gotten the block removed and am in the process of getting
the effected addresses back into normal operation.  Thank you for
your patience.

mjb.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  5 21:11:42 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 20:11:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1978 Alfa Spider For Sale
In-Reply-To: <602091.99278.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <331361.11097.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well that was quick - the Alfa's gone. Thanks to all who expressed interest.
Ron

--- On Mon, 7/5/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Ron
Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] 1978 Alfa Spider For Sale
>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, team-thicko at autox.team.net
> Cc:
"Bob Soave Home" <kestrel2 at optonline.net>
> Date: Monday, July 5, 2010, 11:24
AM
> Friends,
> My Alfa Spider streetcar is up for sale with a reduced
> price
of $2900 or offers. Car is in Roscoe, IL near WI
> border, 50 miles south of
Madison WI, 70 miles west of
> O'Hare.
> 
>
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2063286&id=1341954812&l=383412d410.
> 
>
This time I'm actually gonna advertise it and stuff - I am
> out of space. The
car is a 1978 Spider Veloce. I drive it
> severla times a week for a 50
highway mile round trip to the
> Rockford Airport and it's great. 5 speed in
5th is a very
> pleasant experience with the top down, nothing the Mike
>
Tyson-like experience of my Sprites at speed. There are two
> rust bubble
clusters above each rear fender lip and that's
> it - the car is otherwise in
beautiful cosmetic condition.
> Driver's seat has some seams splitting, but
otherwise really
> nice. The top is original and is of very high quality. The
> rear window is original, and I currently have some packing
> tape doing some
good work as a patch. 
> 
> The car has the 2.0L fuel injected (SPica) engine.
I don't
> touch the Spica,and it leaves me alone. The motor was gone
> through
by PO Bob Rewoldt maybe 12,000 miles ago and it is
> strong. I have been told
it's faster than a normal Alfa - it
> has Shankle cams and header plus the
Shankle "Smart Start".
> Gearbox was rebuilt by Bob,  it's better than the NEW
> Sprint Veloce I drove in the 80s. You can beat the 2nd gear
> synchro if you
really set your mind to it, but it's as
> strong as any Alfa box I've driven.
Car has never stranded
> me.
> 
> The bad - the aforementioned fender bubbles,
and some weird
> electrics. The oil pressure was verified by me with a
>
mechanical gauge as having 75 psi cold, but it reads all
> over the gauge
randomly with 2 different senders. It
> probably needs a gauge. The fuel gauge
is kaput as well,
> probably the sender. New trick - when you have the left
>
directional on and hit the brake, the directional shuts off.
> I traced as
much as I could, nothing obvious. Brake booster
> is acting a little weird too
- I sometimes disconnect it and
> go manual. I drive the car with all these
things - no big
> deal, but they should be fixable rather easily. I simply
>
have too many other projects - somebody take this. It is a
> steal at the
asking price. 
> 
> Ron
> 
>
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>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jul  5 22:36:36 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:36:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line
Message-ID: <C85800E4.287E1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I'm about to replace the rubber fuel lines on the Ranchero for the third
time in two years.  Where can I get fuel line that won't fall apart in six
months?  I've been using the NAPA and Pep Boys fuel line.
BZ

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Jul  6 00:19:21 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 23:19:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line
In-Reply-To: <C85800E4.287E1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C85800E4.287E1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4C32CAE9.1049.397567B@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I use a slightly blue colored fuel line that I get from the local 
Harley-Davidson dealer.
I figure it's usally outside in the weather most of the time.
I've not had a line go bad on me in many years.
I could probably get some good stuff from a Victory or MotorCross 
dealer that woud be just as good,,

Just my 2c worth...

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 5 Jul 2010 at 21:36, Billy Zoom wrote:

> I'm about to replace the rubber fuel lines on the Ranchero for the third
> time in two years.  Where can I get fuel line that won't fall apart in six
> months?  I've been using the NAPA and Pep Boys fuel line.

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Jul  6 00:54:37 2010
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:54:37 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair
Message-ID: <SNT144-ds13DEDFFF41728354390530C8B20@phx.gbl>

Yep.....we had a 60 and equipped it with an
EMPI (I think it was EMPI....long time ago) after market compensator with better than stock tires. Did the trick.

I couldn't drive rear engine that well but my younger bro' had a real knack for drifting the car around corners with the tail hangin' way out there.

He could keep up with any MGA or TR3 on Stamford backroads. Great driver......and
excellent tax accountant as well! :)

Later on he had a '64 with compensator and ABARTH for "proper & appropriate"
sound, Sweet car.

Best thing about the early models (IMHO) was their great gas heaters in winter!! :)

CB 


-----Original Message-----
From: Norm 2Bs
Sent: Sunday, July 4, 2010 8:54 PM
To: Spridgets Digest
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ralph Nader. . Corvair

Need to get in on this one...

I had a 1964 Corvair Spyder Coupe.  A VERY fun car.  Had it at same time as
'65 MGB I bought new.  Bought Spyder with c. 15,000 miles on it.  Once I
learned to put a Corvette fan belt on it, it was a great street racer.
(Stock belts got soft & stretched)  I used to goad small-block Chevys & Ford
into races from about 15 mph.  I held speed with the brake while flooring
the gas until turbo pressure built to max.  Then it was "Go!"  Sure they
passed me at about 50 or 60.  But, until then, it was a shock to those other
drivers.

As for cornering, I had heard about Nader's rants.  There may have been some
truth to it with the pre-'64 cars. With the '64 model year, GM installed a
"camber compensator" spring that controlled axle drop.  My '64 Spyder with
Pirelli Cinturatos cornered like it was on rails.  It had better grip than
the B.  And, in snow...only riding up onto a snow bank could stop it.

In '65 with the re-design, Chevy had made the Corvair into a really great
car.  And, then Don Yenko got his hand on some.  John Fitch did too.  But,
the Yenko Stingers are still hot in vintage racing.

Cheers!

Norm
The Turner guy
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jul  6 06:15:35 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 12:15:35 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget on Bring a Trailer
Message-ID: <BAY147-w435178C98CEF6A81A40940B8B20@phx.gbl>

Midget on Bring a
Trailer:http://bringatrailer.com/2010/07/06/bat-exclusive-1968-mg-magic-midge
t-turbo/

Robert Duquette

Ottawa ON Canada

1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )

1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )

1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen
)http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg

From jfishbein at jjfinc.com  Tue Jul  6 07:35:04 2010
From: jfishbein at jjfinc.com (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:35:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget on Bring a Trailer
Message-ID: <B1BF240E3E15474BA46736687B58553E07142C@sbsserver1.jjfinc.local>

Lovely interior. Love that "Moss Motors sourced" carpet.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT 06492



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
robertduquette at sympatico.ca
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:01 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget on Bring a Trailer

Midget on Bring a
Trailer:http://bringatrailer.com/2010/07/06/bat-exclusive-1968-mg-magic-
midge
t-turbo/

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jul  6 09:00:47 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:00:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget on Bring a Trailer
In-Reply-To: <B1BF240E3E15474BA46736687B58553E07142C@sbsserver1.jjfinc.local>
References: <B1BF240E3E15474BA46736687B58553E07142C@sbsserver1.jjfinc.local>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w4002A55181F0207EE0065BB8B20@phx.gbl>

:)
I like the turbo.  Different strokes for different folks, I guess!  ;)
Robert

> Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:35:04 -0400
>
> Lovely interior. Love that "Moss Motors sourced" carpet.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT 06492
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Midget on Bring a
> Trailer:http://bringatrailer.com/2010/07/06/bat-exclusive-1968-mg-magic-
> midge
> t-turbo/
> _______________________________________________

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 09:43:42 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:43:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] fuel line
In-Reply-To: <C85800E4.287E1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C85800E4.287E1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikKr1Nniuf5j8l0zxuHBtM2MhLAWCw21x3Xys8C@mail.gmail.com>

West Marine has good fuel line.

From hardy.john at cox.net  Tue Jul  6 10:20:52 2010
From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 9:20:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] speedometer repair?
In-Reply-To: <20100705193638.RHOSS.89781.root@hrndva-web02-z01>
Message-ID: <20100706122052.RDOZA.1030736.imail@fed1rmwml35>

Sounds more like the cable going bad then the speedo.
---- cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: 
> Hi all-
> 
> my speedometer just started to wig out yesterday and appears to think 25 mph is 125 or so.  The odometer still seems true though.
> 
> Anything I can try without really messing up the innards?
> 
> thanks
> Chris
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From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Jul  6 11:42:26 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 10:42:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Timing Cover
Message-ID: <DA8E0094-A788-4A81-9465-FBDBAF9818C2@ado13.com>

I'm in need of a 948 timing chain cover. Anybody got one they want to sell?

Larry  Miller

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 12:07:03 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:07:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] U.K. HELP!!! Please!!
Message-ID: <AANLkTik6kRoFVPqLC4WRWj1_GIUskYoiE_n1M2ewfq18@mail.gmail.com>

I need some non-LBC related help from a U.K. lister that may be willing to
help me find a camcorder assessory that is NOT available here in the US
It is just a power adapter, nothing illegal or immoral.

Thank you in advance.
Brad

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul  6 13:39:56 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:39:56 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] U.K. HELP!!! Please!!
Message-ID: <5bb52.19a60ac3.3964e08c@aol.com>

Hi Brad,
 
What do you need?  Have you tried _www.ebay.co.uk_ (http://www.ebay.co.uk)  
and _www.maplins.co.uk_ (http://www.maplins.co.uk)  (or if that URL is 
wrong  search for Maplins uk.
 
Regards
 
Daniel
 
In a message dated 06/07/2010 20:17:31 GMT Daylight Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

I need  some non-LBC related help from a U.K. lister that may be willing to
help me  find a camcorder assessory that is NOT available here in the US
It is just  a power adapter, nothing illegal or immoral.

Thank you in  advance.
Brad

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 14:42:42 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 13:42:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] U.K. HELP!!! Please!!
In-Reply-To: <5bb52.19a60ac3.3964e08c@aol.com>
References: <5bb52.19a60ac3.3964e08c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <849209.22939.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

you mean like an A/C wall outlet adapter, or the power supply itself?

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: "WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com>
To: tequila.brad at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, July 6, 2010 12:39:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] U.K. HELP!!! Please!!

Hi Brad,

What do you need?  Have you tried _www.ebay.co.uk_ (http://www.ebay.co.uk)  
and _www.maplins.co.uk_ (http://www.maplins.co.uk)  (or if that URL is 
wrong  search for Maplins uk.

Regards

Daniel

In a message dated 06/07/2010 20:17:31 GMT Daylight Time,  
tequila.brad at gmail.com writes:

I need  some non-LBC related help from a U.K. lister that may be willing to
help me  find a camcorder assessory that is NOT available here in the US
It is just  a power adapter, nothing illegal or immoral.

Thank you in  advance.
Brad

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From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Jul  6 18:00:32 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:00:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Timing Cover
In-Reply-To: <DA8E0094-A788-4A81-9465-FBDBAF9818C2@ado13.com>
References: <DA8E0094-A788-4A81-9465-FBDBAF9818C2@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <6425CEE6-24F9-498A-BE9B-3F159C912AAD@ado13.com>

Thanks for all the offers. Paul Johnson is the lucky dude.

Larry

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jul  6 19:00:58 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2010 21:00:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikz3dtJbfDHZ-tUgxGUC8BAi6RiU07QLRxk3hi0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
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On 7/1/2010 7:02 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:
> Could the bushings in the dizzy be shot, allowing the points gap to vary?
>

>
>     What was wrong?
>     73 Midget, stock. Friend's car that was running perfect last summer.
>     New gas tank. This year it would fire up, run for about 2 seconds
>     and die.
>

So what was it you might ask?
I also had to know.
Some DPM (dumb previous mechanic) And a local LBC mechanic that gets 
paid to do this replaced the ground wire inside the dizzy, I saw it and 
that it was new and tight. What I did not see was that it went from 
dizzy plate screw to the other plate screw keeping the advance plate 
ungrounded.
This wire should be soldered to the advance plate. It is now and it 
works fine.
You never know just what you will find and that even though it was 
*rigged* it did work for a few months. My guess is that it was grounding 
through the spring contact under the advance plate every now and then 
and as soon as the plate moved a bit, the ground went away.

Frank

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 20:24:04 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 19:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Pump
Message-ID: <653260.58213.qm@web46411.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

It appears that the mechanical fuel pump on my BE died.  If I install a Facet
ele. pump can it push or pull through the old pump?  If not is there a
standard 
plate to cover the hole in the block? Where is the best place to put
the Facet? 
Where is the best place to put a new filter? Thanks, Skip 

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul  6 20:24:24 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:24:24 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
In-Reply-To: <4C33D1CA.2070806@comcast.net>
References: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTikz3dtJbfDHZ-tUgxGUC8BAi6RiU07QLRxk3hi0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C33D1CA.2070806@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilJSUGdmvWPmAiAG0BzhKLL4GEnNpXYD3-U5Jkd@mail.gmail.com>

AHA.
The last Midget I bought had a burned starter wire.  The PO installed
new points, grounded the wire that should be on the little plastic
insulator on the dizzy, and tried to start it until the little plastic
insulator on the starter melted.  Both were easy and free to fix,
having extra parts around.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  6 21:41:14 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:41:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Pump
In-Reply-To: <653260.58213.qm@web46411.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <146337.9555.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Skip,
 
I believe it depends on the brand of pump. They make both types.
 I have seen most in the back by the tank. Mine is located at the gas tank.
I read some where they were safer there because they cut off the fuel with the
key.
In case of fire or a busted line. My fuel line was moved farther from the
exhaust too.
You can put the filter any where - i have mine just before the carbs where it
is easy to see.
That way i know when to change it - i use the old VW clear plastic type..
I tried the chrome with glass tube type & replaced it twice because it was
leaking.
I have never had a problem with the plastic one and I paid around $3 for the
last one.
I change it because it was dirty - not because of any problems.
 
Vigil
So Cal


--- On Tue, 7/6/10, Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Pump
To: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 7:24 PM


It appears that the mechanical fuel pump on my BE died.  If I install a Facet
ele. pump can it push or pull through the old pump?  If not is there a
standard
plate to cover the hole in the block? Where is the best place to put
the Facet?
Where is the best place to put a new filter? Thanks, Skip
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jul  7 05:42:30 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 04:42:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Pump
In-Reply-To: <653260.58213.qm@web46411.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <653260.58213.qm@web46411.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <546883251B61408FA3FD7CB5DE98DD0C@spider>

These are the two filters I use.
http://www.nfauto.co.uk/fuel_filter.htm
The glass one can be taken apart and cleaned; it'll catch the big stuff.
The little one (VW type) catches everything else and is thrown away
periodically. 
I put the glass one near the fuel tank. The plastic one goes near the carb
where I can see it in the engine bay. .bill in oregon
===================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Skip Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 7:24 PM
To: spridget
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Pump

It appears that the mechanical fuel pump on my BE died.  If I install a
Facet ele. pump can it push or pull through the old pump?  If not is
there a standard plate to cover the hole in the block? Where is the
best place to put the Facet? 
Where is the best place to put a new filter? Thanks, Skip 
_______________________________________________

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  7 08:41:50 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 07:41:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
Message-ID: <596320.84667.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1825288645.html

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jul  7 09:42:36 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 08:42:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <596320.84667.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <596320.84667.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <689298.47238.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Ed,

Give me your address and I'll send you the money today.

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct





________________________________
From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:41:50 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1825288645.html

From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 10:08:31 2010
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:08:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
Message-ID: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>

Does anyone have a working brake light switch they would like to sell for a 63
sprite? The one I have packed it in after 47 years, they don't make things
like they use to LOL..... Is there a good after market brake light switch out
there that will last longer then 2 weeks, thank for any info.

Greg Higgins
63 sprite

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jul  7 11:10:57 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:10:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW  For Sale Massachusetts
Message-ID: <201007071010633.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1485637

A Bahgain!

Peter C

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Jul  7 11:12:41 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:12:41 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] speedometer repair?
In-Reply-To: <20100705193638.RHOSS.89781.root@hrndva-web02-z01>
References: <20100705193638.RHOSS.89781.root@hrndva-web02-z01>
Message-ID: <30457.71.98.58.172.1278522761.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Chris,

It's not the speedo...it's the V8 you put in the car!  :-0

Check the connections (I know you already have) and there may be some crud
inside the speedo.  I'll be home from up north this weekend and will be
happy to look at it if you haven't got it fixed by then.

Dave W.


> Hi all-
>
> my speedometer just started to wig out yesterday and appears to think 25
> mph is 125 or so.  The odometer still seems true though.
>
> Anything I can try without really messing up the innards?
>
> thanks
> Chris

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  7 12:35:50 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 11:35:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <689298.47238.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <596320.84667.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<689298.47238.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <128772.50684.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

With the money Jay sent me, I just scored these!  Now I can get rid of my 
185/60s that are tearing up my car!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/pts/1826689980.html

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 8:42:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!


Ed,

Give me your address and I'll send you the money today.

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct





________________________________
From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:41:50 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1825288645.html

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  7 12:44:50 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 11:44:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <689298.47238.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <596320.84667.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<689298.47238.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

While I'm at it, I think I'll go CB and get this stuff.... $50!!  Working my way 
up to another OSHIT!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/pts/1824691937.html

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 8:42:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!


Ed,

Give me your address and I'll send you the money today.

 jay fishbein
wallingford, ct





________________________________
From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:41:50 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1825288645.html

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 13:03:46 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:03:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
In-Reply-To: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <D749A803-568B-41F2-9F0F-B2CD16F44BD0@gmail.com>

On Jul 7, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Greg Higgins wrote:

> Does anyone have a working brake light switch they would like to  
> sell for a 63
> sprite? The one I have packed it in after 47 years, they don't make  
> things
> like they use to LOL..... Is there a good after market brake light  
> switch out
> there that will last longer then 2 weeks, thank for any info.



Greg,


I've used this one successfully in the past.

http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?R=ECHSL153_0213209854

Kevin V.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 13:41:46 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:41:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

why is all this cheap stuff in seatle? and there is nothing but expensive crap
for sale around here/

Ryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: "Jay" <jfishbein at snet.net>, Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 2:44:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! B Someone give me $800, quick!

While I'm at it, I think I'll go CB and get this stuff.... $50!! B Working my
way
up to another OSHIT!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/pts/1824691937.html

B Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Jay <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 8:42:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! B Someone give me $800, quick!


Ed,

Give me your address and I'll send you the money today.

B jay fishbein
wallingford, ct





________________________________
From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:41:50 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! B Someone give me $800, quick!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1825288645.html
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 13:53:22 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:53:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
In-Reply-To: <D749A803-568B-41F2-9F0F-B2CD16F44BD0@gmail.com>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
	<D749A803-568B-41F2-9F0F-B2CD16F44BD0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinveZe2zG9bu9uyc0KpHC1YbkjTNPHNFNykwrED@mail.gmail.com>

Greg,

Is your brake switch activated from the brake pedal or through the fluid
pressure in the brake system?  After reading about the mechanicalswitches
burning out I added a relay to the circuit to reduce the load.

Steve

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Kevin Valentine <kevinv1275 at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Jul 7, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Greg Higgins wrote:
>
>  Does anyone have a working brake light switch they would like to sell for
>> a 63
>> sprite? The one I have packed it in after 47 years, they don't make things
>> like they use to LOL..... Is there a good after market brake light switch
>> out
>> there that will last longer then 2 weeks, thank for any info.
>>
>
>
>
> Greg,
>
>
> I've used this one successfully in the past.
>
> http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Detail.aspx?R=ECHSL153_0213209854
>
> Kevin V.
>
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 13:58:39 2010
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:58:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
Message-ID: <AANLkTilWwJT2coJ8AvfP2pIKPvDOrtYKCCR492GsYB-T@mail.gmail.com>

I've talked to the owner, he says it was a CA car and then it lived in his
garage for years.
Pretty much rust free.
Maybe a few hours fiddling would get it running, but best to go ahead and
trailer it home.
I was tempted - but I'm currently resisting all urges in order to get my
shop started.
And of course I've got a daughter getting married in a few weeks.
hmmm... a nice LBC would make a great wedding present...

Rick (OMG) Bastedo


*************************************************
From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 10:41:50 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1825288645.html

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 14:10:51 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:10:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinveZe2zG9bu9uyc0KpHC1YbkjTNPHNFNykwrED@mail.gmail.com>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
	<D749A803-568B-41F2-9F0F-B2CD16F44BD0@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinveZe2zG9bu9uyc0KpHC1YbkjTNPHNFNykwrED@mail.gmail.com>
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On Jul 7, 2010, at 3:53 PM, Steven Guterman wrote:

> Greg,
>
> Is your brake switch activated from the brake pedal or through the  
> fluid pressure in the brake system?

Greg,

The link to the switch I sent is for the later (1275) pedal box......

Sorry.

Kevin V.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 14:36:45 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:36:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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> Edward Perez wrote:



> good grief! B Someone give me $800, quick!
>

Glad to help, Ed.  I'll deposit it in your bank account ASAP.

Just send me your account number and PIN, your SSN, your mother's maiden
name and your bank login and password and I'll get the money to you
immediately...

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 14:43:44 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:43:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 3:41 PM,  <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
why is all this cheap stuff in seatle? and there is nothing but
expensive crap for sale around here/

I'm in Cincinnati, not the other side of the world from you and I'll
sell you crap cheaper than where you are! Wadda ya need? Seriously, I
have more spridget stuff than I need...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Wed Jul  7 14:55:05 2010
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:55:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Someone give me $800, quick!
References: <596320.84667.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<689298.47238.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4638736408924D6A9A50BEDD262B8FD6@universal1>

    Jay,

    I need a monetary fix as well. Just send a blank, signed check and I'll
take care of the rest.

    Thanks so much in advance, I'm off to get some beer,

                                                                             
       CB

From colin at spriteparts.com.au  Wed Jul  7 15:19:14 2010
From: colin at spriteparts.com.au (Colin Dodds)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:19:14 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuel Pump
Message-ID: <024801cb1e1a$0d0b79f0$0200000a@Workstation1>

G'day Skip

In theory, yes, you can use an electric pump (usually mounted low and near the
tank) and pump the fuel right through the mechanical one.  However, you need
to determine why the mechanical pump died.  If it's because of a split
diaphragm, then some of the fuel you pump through it will end up in the sump
(aka: oil pan).  The first sympton will be low oil pressure as the fuel
dilutes the oil.  The next sympton will be the explosion.

The best place to put the Facet is in the box, preferably left at the shop
where you were going to buy it.  Unless of course you're stone deaf.  They're
noisy buggers.  If you really must buy one, ensure it's a low pressure version
as the high pressure one will cause the carbies to flood.  It can push the
fuel right past the needles and seats in the float bowls.

Yes, there's a proprietary blanking plate - 1098cc engine and some 1275cc
engine had them fitted.  Part number 2A265.

Why don't you just fix your mechanical pump?  Then it would last another 50
years.

Two theories on the best place for the filter.
1) Between the tank and the fuel pump, to keep crud out of the pump.
2) In the engine bay where you can see it.

The glass filters are a good idea in as much as you can clean them.  However,
they do hinder the fuel flow more than the disposable ones.  One of my mates
cars (1160cc + Shorrock) had a fuel starvation problem on long hills.  We
checked the fuel flow rate, and it took 50 seconds to pump a litre of fuel.
Then we took out the glass filter, and it took only 40 second to pump a litre.
With the disposable filter, it took about 45 seconds.  It doesn't sound like
much, but that translates into a 20% drop in flow for the glass filter and 11%
for the disposable filter.  Your average fuel consumption is, of course, far
less than 1= litres per minute.  However at speed with full throttle, you can
empty the float bowl faster than the pump can fill it up.

avagoodday
Colin
www.SpriteParts.com.au

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 15:38:44 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:38:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
In-Reply-To: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <4C34F3E4.4000305@comcast.net>

On 7/7/2010 12:08 PM, Greg Higgins wrote:
> Does anyone have a working brake light switch they would like to sell for a 63
> sprite? The one I have packed it in after 47 years, they don't make things
> like they use to LOL..... Is there a good after market brake light switch out
> there that will last longer then 2 weeks, thank for any info.

Any 3/8 thread 2 terminal pressure switch will work but if you are using 
silicon fluid, put in a mechanical switch on the pedal box.
I used a cheap radio shack switch (pack of 3 for a couple bucks so I can 
change them when they fail)  I think I put it in where the pedal stop 
bolt goes and used an axle nut (tap it on with a hammer) to hold it in.
Run a sub harness under the heater box to your existing pressure switch.
I even tried the silicon specific pressure switches, they lasted about a 
month.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 15:39:54 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:39:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimdQsmlXIIZyB1YiWvuekt0Kz9KQuVCVNvG77e_@mail.gmail.com>

Exactly what I'm thinking!

Really appears ALL the deals are in the Seattle area lately.


On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:41 PM,  <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
> why is all this cheap stuff in seatle? and there is nothing but expensive crap
> for sale around here/

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 15:44:57 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:44:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilKZysqosacDXCcEFG7ccmJArcp9RjDhVhcmslD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<AANLkTilKZysqosacDXCcEFG7ccmJArcp9RjDhVhcmslD@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilwxjBumLMwh2DG8RPXeSJUL85orpuLNTZG0OvN@mail.gmail.com>

Checks take too long.
Just send small, unmarked bills.

I am Nigerian Prince........................

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jul  7 15:41:55 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:41:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westch
	ester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <201007071448829.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Nice picture of Ryan on Page 5 of the MG Driver mag  March/April.

Stop whining!    :-)

         Peter C
===
At 02:41 PM 7/7/2010, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
>why is all this cheap stuff in seatle? and there is nothing but expensive crap
>for sale around here/
>
>Ryan

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 15:59:57 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 21:59:57 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <201007071448829.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <1564238840.1806241278539997126.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Actually i am on the back cover in january, pg 5 in march, and front cover of may. 
I will shut up now. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com> 
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> 
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 5:41:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick! 

Nice picture of Ryan on Page 5 of the MG Driver mag March/April. 

Stop whining! :-) 

Peter C 
=== 
At 02:41 PM 7/7/2010, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: 
>why is all this cheap stuff in seatle? and there is nothing but expensive crap 
>for sale around here/ 
> 
>Ryan 

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul  7 16:03:38 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:03:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C34F9BA.3090400@justbrits.com>

THAT Ryan.......

<< *why is all this cheap stuff in seatle? * >>

qualifies for the Statement of The Year Award category !!!!

<< *and there is nothing but expensive crap **for sale around her**e *>>

DITTO here <F> !!!

"Sometimes" this sorta thing makes me wish that I HAD taken
the chance I had at a GREAT dual-axle enclosed 'name' 18'
 trailer with a LOT of options<F>, and then the chance I had at a NOS 
'name' Class 3 chassis-specific hitch for just shy of $300
[they are NLA for '70 Chevelle/El Caminos] and that GAS wasn't
$3.15/gal [reg is $2.99 to $3.05<VBF>] <sigh> !!!!!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul  7 16:39:02 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:39:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilwxjBumLMwh2DG8RPXeSJUL85orpuLNTZG0OvN@mail.gmail.com>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<AANLkTilKZysqosacDXCcEFG7ccmJArcp9RjDhVhcmslD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilwxjBumLMwh2DG8RPXeSJUL85orpuLNTZG0OvN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C350206.6000005@justbrits.com>

Damn derF.......

<< I am Nigerian Prince........................>>

and all this time I thought you were a Kenyan King !!!!

Just 'hurts' to be WRONG<sigh>.

LAD

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jul  7 17:09:46 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:09:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <1564238840.1806241278539997126.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <201007071448829.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1564238840.1806241278539997126.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <682B6DE8057144B6A601F348A394DAFD@spider>

What? No centerfold?  :-)
...bill in corvallis
=============================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:00 PM
To: Peter Caldwell
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!

Actually i am on the back cover in january, pg 5 in march, and front cover
of may. 
I will shut up now. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com> 
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> 
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 5:41:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick! 

Nice picture of Ryan on Page 5 of the MG Driver mag March/April. 

Stop whining! :-) 

Peter C 
=== 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul  7 17:34:18 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 18:34:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <4C350206.6000005@justbrits.com>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com><732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><AANLkTilKZysqosacDXCcEFG7ccmJArcp9RjDhVhcmslD@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTilwxjBumLMwh2DG8RPXeSJUL85orpuLNTZG0OvN@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C350206.6000005@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <076F3A36525B417BB8CE51CD19D8D741@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:39 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!

Damn derF.......

<< I am Nigerian Prince........................>>

and all this time I thought you were a Kenyan King !!!!

Just 'hurts' to be WRONG<sigh>.

LAD
_______________________________________________

Hell, Ed, you should be used to being wrong by now.

The "real" LAD

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Wed Jul  7 18:03:51 2010
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:03:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
References: <1564238840.1806241278539997126.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <DB0A05536FEB4195813C130CF6FBD33C@universal1>

            "Actually i am on the back cover in january, pg 5 in march, and
front cover of may."

    So, how long has your Uncle Al been editor of that rag???

                                                                CB

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 18:30:06 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 20:30:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <682B6DE8057144B6A601F348A394DAFD@spider>
References: <201007071448829.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1564238840.1806241278539997126.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<682B6DE8057144B6A601F348A394DAFD@spider>
Message-ID: <4C351C0E.9020607@comcast.net>

On 7/7/2010 7:09 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> What? No centerfold?  :-)

That was me, April 99 British Car Mag front cover and centerfold!



-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul  7 18:41:49 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:41:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <076F3A36525B417BB8CE51CD19D8D741@HomePC>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com><732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><AANLkTilKZysqosacDXCcEFG7ccmJArcp9RjDhVhcmslD@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTilwxjBumLMwh2DG8RPXeSJUL85orpuLNTZG0OvN@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C350206.6000005@justbrits.com>
	<076F3A36525B417BB8CE51CD19D8D741@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4C351ECD.5000902@justbrits.com>

<< Hell, Ed, you should be used to being wrong by now. >>

"Pot" calling the kettle black, Larry ?!?

<G>

"Not wrong" Ed

<smirk>

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 19:11:42 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:11:42 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <076F3A36525B417BB8CE51CD19D8D741@HomePC>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<AANLkTilKZysqosacDXCcEFG7ccmJArcp9RjDhVhcmslD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilwxjBumLMwh2DG8RPXeSJUL85orpuLNTZG0OvN@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C350206.6000005@justbrits.com>
	<076F3A36525B417BB8CE51CD19D8D741@HomePC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilisT-n5JSjVLEShtBDw3hhit8SV2ddHkFb-Nyn@mail.gmail.com>

I was wondering what LAD was doing in Ed's shop.

> Just 'hurts' to be WRONG<sigh>.
>
> LAD
> _______________________________________________
>
> Hell, Ed, you should be used to being wrong by now.
>
> The "real" LAD

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 19:21:33 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 01:21:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <682B6DE8057144B6A601F348A394DAFD@spider>
Message-ID: <2038898311.1874601278552093962.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

i have some modesty..... 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com 
To: spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 7:09:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick! 

What? No centerfold? :-) 
...bill in corvallis 
============================= 
-----Original Message----- 
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net 
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:00 PM 
To: Peter Caldwell 
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick! 

Actually i am on the back cover in january, pg 5 in march, and front cover 
of may. 
I will shut up now. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com> 
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> 
Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 5:41:55 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick! 

Nice picture of Ryan on Page 5 of the MG Driver mag March/April. 

Stop whining! :-) 

Peter C 
=== 
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 19:22:26 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 01:22:26 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief!  Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <DB0A05536FEB4195813C130CF6FBD33C@universal1>
Message-ID: <2089171031.1875081278552146779.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

never met him before but i always get a big $5 check in the mail on my bday 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charley Braum" <cbaustin at verizon.net> 
To: "ryan kubanoff" <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> 
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 8:03:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick! 


" Actually i am on the back cover in january, pg 5 in march, and front cover of may." 

So, how long has your Uncle Al been editor of that rag??? 

CB 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 19:23:07 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:23:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting cars for sale....
Message-ID: <AANLkTimPLrxNUbAp05Nsj2H4xqpat7dDoS4lIHy0Vvih@mail.gmail.com>

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ctd/1794005031.html

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1795417795.html
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1762386523.html

http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/1785713620.html

No financial interest......

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 19:26:05 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:26:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <4C351C0E.9020607@comcast.net>
References: <201007071448829.SM02384@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<1564238840.1806241278539997126.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<682B6DE8057144B6A601F348A394DAFD@spider>
	<4C351C0E.9020607@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilOD79pRPZ9IoiT6xuVyBtkegSeQskAunVovc8C@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> On 7/7/2010 7:09 PM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
>
>> What? No centerfold?  :-)
>>
>
> That was me, April 99 British Car Mag front cover and centerfold!


CENTERFOLD!!??  Were you n.....     Nah. Not going there.....

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 19:30:37 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:30:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
In-Reply-To: <4C351ECD.5000902@justbrits.com>
References: <988116.14483.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<732620638.1743181278531706527.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<AANLkTilKZysqosacDXCcEFG7ccmJArcp9RjDhVhcmslD@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilwxjBumLMwh2DG8RPXeSJUL85orpuLNTZG0OvN@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C350206.6000005@justbrits.com>
	<076F3A36525B417BB8CE51CD19D8D741@HomePC>
	<4C351ECD.5000902@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikSMWU0CA78ZfY2hd86ocvkrdvT4RMUOzb48aZL@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Shop at " Just Brits "
<shop at justbrits.com>wrote:

>
> "Not wrong" Ed
>

That's a double negative...    ;-)

Look up "wrong" in the dictionary. Ed's picture is there.

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Jul  7 19:32:32 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 20:32:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
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I would bet that there is a lot that causes you to wonder, Derf.

Including how to spell your name.

Keep working on it; it will eventually come to you.

Maybe.


--------------------------------------------------
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:11 PM
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!

I was wondering what LAD was doing in Ed's shop.

> Just 'hurts' to be WRONG<sigh>.
>
> LAD
> _______________________________________________
>
> Hell, Ed, you should be used to being wrong by now.
>
> The "real" LAD 

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Wed Jul  7 19:48:44 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 18:48:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
In-Reply-To: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W16058EFB3841682A493D56CAB40@phx.gbl>

Is the '63 a push-on connection or a screw-on connection (electrical)?

> From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 12:08:31 -0400
> Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
>
> Does anyone have a working brake light switch they would like to sell for a
63
> sprite? The one I have packed it in after 47 years, they don't make things
> like they use to LOL..... Is there a good after market brake light switch
out
> there that will last longer then 2 weeks, thank for any info.
>
> Greg Higgins
> 63 sprite
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From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul  7 20:14:27 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 21:14:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
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	<1564238840.1806241278539997126.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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How did you know, Jim ??

Seriously, he WAS the centerfold in Aug '09 of
"Nailgunner's Delight" !!!

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 20:17:09 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 22:17:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
In-Reply-To: <4C34F3E4.4000305@comcast.net>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
	<4C34F3E4.4000305@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <7358D71517D14CEBBB0F67BC08290C38@blackbox2>

What an interesting coincidence.

I just replaced my original pressure brake light switch last weekend.

Although I've had silicone brake fluid in the system for over 5 years and it
just failed a few weeks ago.

I had a used original spare and put that in and all is fine right now.

What's interesting is that at the time I was wondering if the silicone fluid
might have had something to do with the failure.

I'll run with what I got until it fails and then I'll give this a shot:

Painless P/N 80171


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:39 PM
To: Greg Higgins
Cc: Greg Higgins; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brake light switch

On 7/7/2010 12:08 PM, Greg Higgins wrote:
> Does anyone have a working brake light switch they would like to sell for
a 63
> sprite? The one I have packed it in after 47 years, they don't make things
> like they use to LOL..... Is there a good after market brake light switch
out
> there that will last longer then 2 weeks, thank for any info.

Any 3/8 thread 2 terminal pressure switch will work but if you are using 
silicon fluid, put in a mechanical switch on the pedal box.
I used a cheap radio shack switch (pack of 3 for a couple bucks so I can 
change them when they fail)  I think I put it in where the pedal stop 
bolt goes and used an axle nut (tap it on with a hammer) to hold it in.
Run a sub harness under the heater box to your existing pressure switch.
I even tried the silicon specific pressure switches, they lasted about a 
month.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul  7 20:38:52 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 21:38:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] good grief! Someone give me $800, quick!
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I would bet that there is a lot that causes you to wonder, Derf.
>
> Including how to spell your name.
>
> Keep working on it; it will eventually come to you.
>
> Maybe.
>

Larry,

Lighten up!  The guy could be Lysdexic....

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
       John Adams
       US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Jul  7 20:47:32 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 19:47:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Help - Glove Box Liner repair - morris
Message-ID: <581047.31730.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
got a set of used card board glove box liners. The back corner is starting to
show light.
I would like to reinforce the outer seams with a Tape or some other method.
I thought about the Animal tapes - gorilla,duck - to messy & not long lasting
They do not last long in changing temperatures under a dash - then leave
a glue mess.
I am looking for a reinforced tape that is not that thick or messy if
possible.
The liners are not that bad except for the bottom corner.
i really do not want to fiber glass the back side to save them.
I just want to cover the wires and not have any thing fall though the seam.
Any suggestions how others have handled this problem.
Or did they just go with the duck tape types?
I would think there is some thing better - that is why i am asking.
 
 Vigil
So Cal


 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 21:11:56 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:11:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
In-Reply-To: <7358D71517D14CEBBB0F67BC08290C38@blackbox2>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
	<4C34F3E4.4000305@comcast.net>
	<7358D71517D14CEBBB0F67BC08290C38@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4C3541FC.6010901@comcast.net>

On 7/7/2010 10:17 PM, Dean Hedin wrote:
> What an interesting coincidence.

> I'll run with what I got until it fails and then I'll give this a shot:
>
> Painless P/N 80171

NO NO NO!!!!!
THOSE were the silicone proof switches I bought.
2 of them, not cheap and I called him when the first one failed within a 
month, he said he would replace it. The 2nd one leaked out of the 
plastic/bake-o-lite stuff around the metal part.
I opened up the first failed switch, the contacts were coated in a 
*silicone* like slime thus making them not make contact, sort of like 
the regular $5 pressure switches, just a metal contact no different then 
any other but the gullible people will buy into the marketing, hell, I 
did but I learned real fast.
My A40 went thru many switches and I just can not fabricate a mechanical 
switch as the pedal and master are in a straight vertical line and there 
is no room. I have tried a Jag switch with an offset lever but still no 
good.

I am thinking the old original pressure switches, if never removed from 
the car when silicone was added, retain a spot of Castrol brake fluid in 
them and this keeps the silicone away from the contacts.
I have had a couple where the original Lucas switch lasted a year or so, 
others a month at best. The ones that did not last had a 100% new brake 
system, pipes and all. And I hear of pressure switches lasting years 
with silicone, how come not mine?


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 21:18:34 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 23:18:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Help - Glove Box Liner repair - morris
In-Reply-To: <581047.31730.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <581047.31730.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C35438A.2020903@comcast.net>

On 7/7/2010 10:47 PM, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com wrote:
>

> I would like to reinforce the outer seams with a Tape or some other method.

> Or did they just go with the duck tape types?
> I would think there is some thing better - that is why i am asking.


How about that stringy packing tape?
There is a string reinforced duct tape as well as a foil faced duct 
tape, both of which are excellent as long as you use Nashua or 3M 
brands. There may be other brands as good or better but I know there are 
some brands that are pure junk.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 22:11:43 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 00:11:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch
In-Reply-To: <4C3541FC.6010901@comcast.net>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
	<4C34F3E4.4000305@comcast.net>
	<7358D71517D14CEBBB0F67BC08290C38@blackbox2>
	<4C3541FC.6010901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <726665EB61F642E59909B7857954F2AC@blackbox2>

It's weird.  You wouldn't think that silicone would screw up a switch.

Dielectric grease is silicone based and it is good for electrical
contacts.

I wonder if it's the case of the silicone mixing with the old Castrol
and that makes the goo that screws up the switch.

Well, I put a fifty year old original brake switch back in and it was
definitely "bone dry".  So I'm curious to see how long it lasts.

I hate having to rig the mechanical switch by the pedals.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Clarici [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:12 PM
To: Dean Hedin
Cc: 'Greg Higgins'; 'Greg Higgins'; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] brake light switch

On 7/7/2010 10:17 PM, Dean Hedin wrote:
> What an interesting coincidence.

> I'll run with what I got until it fails and then I'll give this a shot:
>
> Painless P/N 80171

NO NO NO!!!!!
THOSE were the silicone proof switches I bought.
2 of them, not cheap and I called him when the first one failed within a 
month, he said he would replace it. The 2nd one leaked out of the 
plastic/bake-o-lite stuff around the metal part.
I opened up the first failed switch, the contacts were coated in a 
*silicone* like slime thus making them not make contact, sort of like 
the regular $5 pressure switches, just a metal contact no different then 
any other but the gullible people will buy into the marketing, hell, I 
did but I learned real fast.
My A40 went thru many switches and I just can not fabricate a mechanical 
switch as the pedal and master are in a straight vertical line and there 
is no room. I have tried a Jag switch with an offset lever but still no 
good.

I am thinking the old original pressure switches, if never removed from 
the car when silicone was added, retain a spot of Castrol brake fluid in 
them and this keeps the silicone away from the contacts.
I have had a couple where the original Lucas switch lasted a year or so, 
others a month at best. The ones that did not last had a 100% new brake 
system, pipes and all. And I hear of pressure switches lasting years 
with silicone, how come not mine?


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jul  7 23:08:49 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:08:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help - Glove Box Liner repair - morris
In-Reply-To: <4C35438A.2020903@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C85AAB71.288DB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Use the foil tape. It lasts forever and doesn't dry out.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 07:55:30 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:55:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Help - Glove Box Liner repair - morris
In-Reply-To: <C85AAB71.288DB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <4C35438A.2020903@comcast.net>
	<C85AAB71.288DB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikNaffZa0MfjJO6Xqm7HiKoAJO5yYZRb2zgNnEx@mail.gmail.com>

+1 the Silver Aluminum duct tape will last.  It holds the batteries in
our TV remote, and does well in that job.
Get one of the brands that Frank recommends.  "Thousands of uses"

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> Use the foil tape. It lasts forever and doesn't dry out.

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Thu Jul  8 11:11:58 2010
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 13:11:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage racing in Joliet, IL
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601CA05@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Got a free weekend?

I've been so busy this spring and summer, I haven't been able to pay
much attention to Spridgets, or anything else motorized for that matter.


But, last weekend I did get the #49 "Works Midget" buttoned up (new head
and a few details) and running. And except for an annoying "break-up" as
the car accelerates past 4700 RPM, I seem to have good water temps,
EGT's  and compression. So, I faxed in my entry for the vintage race at
Autobahn Country Club in Joliet for the weekend of 7/24-25.  I have
great hopes of solving my "irregular high speed miss" this weekend and
making the grid next week.

So, the "free weekend" query...

Stalwart  JohnsfollyMotorsports crew chief and sandwich-maker, Rick
Fisk, is planning to have a grandchild that weekend. And "She Who Must
Be Obeyed" does not spend weekends in Illinois on purpose.

Consequently, I have a couple of paid crew passes available for anyone
who can keep a Spridget running and keep me calm and focused between
events. (Trembling hands keep me from turning wrenches between races).

Contact me off-list-best address is

johnsfolly AT gmail DOT com



--JohnD



p.s.: Peter Caldwell:   do you remember pulling pieces of front seal
spring out of my timing cover at Blackhawk a couple of years back? Well,
another big piece came out stuck to my magnetic drain plug last Sunday
when I drained my winter oil!

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jul  8 11:47:25 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 12:47:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage racing in Joliet, IL
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601CA05@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.m
	ed.va.gov>
References: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601CA05@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <201007081047888.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 12:11 PM 7/8/2010, Deikis, John G wrote:
>Got a free weekend?

Maybe... still on the fence. Don't need your pass if I do, though.

><SNIP>
>
>--JohnD
>
>
>
>p.s.: Peter Caldwell:   do you remember pulling pieces of front seal
>spring out of my timing cover at Blackhawk a couple of years back? Well,
>another big piece came out stuck to my magnetic drain plug last Sunday
>when I drained my winter oil!
-----------------
Yep... very well, and the lesson learned is/was, when tightening the 
crank bolt, be sure the slinger is properly positioned, as if not, 
the slinger can become pinched behind the key, be off center, and 
tear the $hit out of the seal.

Right John?

Peter 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jul  8 17:39:15 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 16:39:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage racing in Joliet, IL
In-Reply-To: <201007081047888.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <824789.17936.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

And if Peter says no, I have 2 crew passes as well!!! Between John and me,
there will most definitely be something to do.

--- On Thu, 7/8/10, Peter
Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> From: Peter Caldwell
<peter at nosimport.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vintage racing in Joliet, IL
> To: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>, spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date:
Thursday, July 8, 2010, 12:47 PM
> At 12:11 PM 7/8/2010, Deikis, John G
>
wrote:
> >Got a free weekend?
> 
> Maybe... still on the fence. Don't need
your pass if I do,
> though.
> 
> ><SNIP>
> >
> >--JohnD
> >
> >
> >
> >p.s.:
Peter Caldwell:   do you remember
> pulling pieces of front seal
> >spring out
of my timing cover at Blackhawk a couple of
> years back? Well,
> >another big
piece came out stuck to my magnetic drain
> plug last Sunday
> >when I drained
my winter oil!
> -----------------
> Yep... very well, and the lesson learned
is/was, when
> tightening the 
> crank bolt, be sure the slinger is properly
positioned, as
> if not, 
> the slinger can become pinched behind the key, be
off
> center, and 
> tear the $hit out of the seal.
> 
> Right John?
> 
>
Peter 
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Jul  8 21:18:39 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 23:18:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] brake light switch w/silicone fluid...
In-Reply-To: <4C3541FC.6010901@comcast.net>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
	<4C34F3E4.4000305@comcast.net>
	<7358D71517D14CEBBB0F67BC08290C38@blackbox2>
	<4C3541FC.6010901@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <9A4C3D287D8F4AC3A4D4BAF3DFF4A290@blackbox2>

Apparently we are not the only ones:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=249068

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 12:56:36 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:56:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Regarding a Rib Case
Message-ID: <AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb@mail.gmail.com>

I had problems with my throw out bearing going out pre-maturely.  I think I
have solved the problem.  Per Frank I shortened the slave rod to spec and I
also found an old throw out bearing that I
had amongst some parts.  I believe that this TB may be of better
construction than many, if not just about all of the new ones that are
sourced today.  It looked solid as well.  . as much as one might be able to
tell by looking at it.

On this last TB failure. . I was a few miles from home and had to drive the
car back home by killing the engine and starting it again.  The gear box
also took a beating.  I was not up for a $70 + tow bill being as close to
home as I was.  .so I did whatever it took to get the car back into my
garage.

Since then, shifting into first and then to second. . I get a crunch.
Sometimes, I am able to avoid this. .  depending on the feel of the gear
shift and the way that I am shifting.  But for the most part I am often
crunching a slight bit into first and then crunching from first to second
with all the other two gears working as normal.

I plan to install a 5 speed.  . but  I am waiting for some money to come in
order to be able and do so.  As such I have not been to concerned about the
rib case.

But I was wondering if anyone had an idea as to what I may have done to my
current gear box. .  what is going wrong with first and second?

What got hurt inside the box when I was driving it home that day?

Kirk
59 1275

PS
I snapped my radio antenna off by having the car too close to the garage
door when it came down.  Out came the old golf clubs again. .  those tubes
are great to have for repairs like this.  I was able to cut out a section of
tube and make a repair. .  to the point that looking at it, you would not
know that it was ever snapped. .  nothing stands out as looking crazy at
least!  Sometimes those old golf clubs really come in handy.  .. along with
some JB Weld to make sure everything stays in place!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul  9 13:04:36 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:04:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Regarding a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BFB27499BF4844E69E3F35A2EC5D5394@spider>

You might drain the fluid out of the trans and see what shows up. Doesn't
cost much. ...bill in corvallis
=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:57 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Regarding a Rib Case

I had problems with my throw out bearing going out pre-maturely.  I think I
have solved the problem.  Per Frank I shortened the slave rod to spec and I
also found an old throw out bearing that I
had amongst some parts.  I believe that this TB may be of better
construction than many, if not just about all of the new ones that are
sourced today.  It looked solid as well.  . as much as one might be able to
tell by looking at it.

On this last TB failure. . I was a few miles from home and had to drive the
car back home by killing the engine and starting it again.  The gear box
also took a beating.  I was not up for a $70 + tow bill being as close to
home as I was.  .so I did whatever it took to get the car back into my
garage.

Since then, shifting into first and then to second. . I get a crunch.
Sometimes, I am able to avoid this. .  depending on the feel of the gear
shift and the way that I am shifting.  But for the most part I am often
crunching a slight bit into first and then crunching from first to second
with all the other two gears working as normal.

I plan to install a 5 speed.  . but  I am waiting for some money to come in
order to be able and do so.  As such I have not been to concerned about the
rib case.

But I was wondering if anyone had an idea as to what I may have done to my
current gear box. .  what is going wrong with first and second?

What got hurt inside the box when I was driving it home that day?

Kirk
59 1275 

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  9 13:21:53 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:21:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Regarding a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <810413.53942.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Kirk,
The crunching is probably that your clutch wasn't fully disengaging.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Fri, 7/9/10, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Regarding a Rib Case
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, July 9, 2010, 2:56 PM

I had problems with my throw out bearing going out pre-maturely.  I think I
have solved the problem.  Per Frank I shortened the slave rod to spec and I
also found an old throw out bearing that I
had amongst some parts.  I believe that this TB may be of better
construction than many, if not just about all of the new ones that are
sourced today.  It looked solid as well.  . as much as one might be able to
tell by looking at it.

On this last TB failure. . I was a few miles from home and had to drive the
car back home by killing the engine and starting it again.  The gear box
also took a beating.  I was not up for a $70 + tow bill being as close to
home as I was.  .so I did whatever it took to get the car back into my
garage.

Since then, shifting into first and then to second. . I get a crunch.
Sometimes, I am able to avoid this. .  depending on the feel of the gear
shift and the way that I am shifting.  But for the most part I am often
crunching a slight bit into first and then crunching from first to second
with all the other two gears working as normal.

I plan to install a 5 speed.  . but  I am waiting for some money to come in
order to be able and do so.  As such I have not been to concerned about the
rib case.

But I was wondering if anyone had an idea as to what I may have done to my
current gear box. .  what is going wrong with first and second?

What got hurt inside the box when I was driving it home that day?

Kirk
59 1275

PS
I snapped my radio antenna off by having the car too close to the garage
door when it came down.  Out came the old golf clubs again. .  those tubes
are great to have for repairs like this.  I was able to cut out a section of
tube and make a repair. .  to the point that looking at it, you would not
know that it was ever snapped. .  nothing stands out as looking crazy at
least!  Sometimes those old golf clubs really come in handy.  .. along with
some JB Weld to make sure everything stays in place!
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Fri Jul  9 17:19:22 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 18:19:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Regarding a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikkwULpAibFSSJNFSlGF8cLDh3Z0iTsmi7v5toj@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
wrote:
I plan to install a 5 speed.  . but  I am waiting for some money to
come in order to be able and do so.


Just send your address to Jay like Edward did... Jay loves to send
money to people on this list!

--
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Fri Jul  9 17:34:17 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:34:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Regarding a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C37B1F9.1030901@tx.rr.com>

This is common practice when you have a clutch failure.  When I worked 
in my dad's garage I drove several customers' cars back to our shop this 
way.  It should not put much strain on the gearbox itself.

> On this last TB failure. . I was a few miles from home and had to drive the
> car back home by killing the engine and starting it again.  The gear box
> also took a beating.

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jul  9 18:26:36 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2010 19:26:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question Regarding a Rib Case
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikkwULpAibFSSJNFSlGF8cLDh3Z0iTsmi7v5toj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikkwULpAibFSSJNFSlGF8cLDh3Z0iTsmi7v5toj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C37BE3C.9010004@justbrits.com>

YOU Kent.........

<< Jay loves to send money to people on this list! >>

had best be quite OR Jay WILL be sending you an Invoice for
Mal-Use of Jay's name & reputation !!!!!

At least you have had time to be alerted !!!!

Anon

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sat Jul 10 07:56:01 2010
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:56:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Help! I need Intake valves!
Message-ID: <AANLkTimx2rYDW05QP6J_9lpO0KdcJjukqs8VphdR43yB@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have a set of intake valves laying around 1.400 or larger?
they dont have to be rimflow valves but that would be nice! I only
need one valve, but it you have a set of rimflo valves Id buy those
too. MiniMania and SpridgetMania are out of stock. please help! trying
to get to PGVP shenley park!

Thanks All

Matt

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul 10 13:21:28 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 14:21:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
Message-ID: <AANLkTikdH4j_R3h2RbB_yclNzRUkAP3CRNKoY_aE1IpK@mail.gmail.com>

Ebay item   260613471594

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 13:33:23 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:33:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikdH4j_R3h2RbB_yclNzRUkAP3CRNKoY_aE1IpK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <253025.79714.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Cool but spendy!

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 3:21 PM

Ebay item   260613471594

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 16:40:43 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:40:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikdH4j_R3h2RbB_yclNzRUkAP3CRNKoY_aE1IpK@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3281.99156.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I spent quite a bit of time on the phone this morning with the seller (Peter
did a stint as well, I think). Dave's going to need the money ;-)

--- On Sat,
7/10/10, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jim Johnson
<bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
> To:
"Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 2:21
PM
> Ebay
> item   260613471594
> 
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> In my many years I
have come to a conclusion that one
> useless man is a
> shame, two is a law
firm, and three or more is a
> congress."
>         John Adams
>         US
diplomat & politician
> (1735 - 1826)
>
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 17:41:57 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:41:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT?  Hmmmm
Message-ID: <665462.52260.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1833891747.html

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 17:48:34 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:48:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT?  Hmmmm
In-Reply-To: <665462.52260.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <736684.98900.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1833891747.html

In 2001, my brother was interested in Larry Cogan's incredible 1970 Midget in Florida. I drove while on vacation and deemed it near-perfect. I called him to tell him we had a deal, and he asked me to cancel it because they had decided earlier that day to buy a horse instead. I thought that was pretty extreme - horse/MG, horse/MG...

So naturally I bought the car and have loved it ever since. I'll see it in 3 weeks for its semi annual week of fun.

Ron

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 18:15:34 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:15:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT?  Hmmmm
In-Reply-To: <736684.98900.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <287900.75013.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

horse/mg ... horse/mg

prolly about equal in tailpipe emissions!

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT?  Hmmmm
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net, "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 7:48 PM

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1833891747.html

In 2001, my brother was interested in Larry Cogan's incredible 1970 Midget in
Florida. I drove while on vacation and deemed it near-perfect. I called him to
tell him we had a deal, and he asked me to cancel it because they had decided
earlier that day to buy a horse instead. I thought that was pretty extreme -
horse/MG, horse/MG...

So naturally I bought the car and have loved it ever since. I'll see it in 3
weeks for its semi annual week of fun.

Ron
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 18:30:40 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:30:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
In-Reply-To: <3281.99156.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <286180.99693.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I must have missed a message or two. Could you explain Ron?
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
I spent quite a bit of time on the phone this morning with the seller (Peter
did a stint as well, I think). Dave's going to need the money ;-)

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 20:37:10 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
Message-ID: <257759.43386.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The seller of the bonnet is Dave Jahimiak, aka Dr. J., he of the fastest Sprite in the country. White Trash can play with enough to make him notice us (I'm starting to consider my second place finishes as landslide victories), but I am giving away 45 horsepower and 160 pounds of dry weight to him(!!) per our discussion this AM. He also has some unconventional suspension setups and was running 225/45 tires on the car with bizarro custom offset on some $600 Compomotive wheels whereas us mere mortals are getting by with 185/60s.

Anyway, Dave is getting ready for the Kohler Classic (AKA the Brian Redman, AKA, Chicago Historics). At Road America races what is sort of a Devin SS, currently for sale for an optimistic $1.25M:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=260570150855

The front suspension is part Big Healey, and he discovered 1 degree of negative camber on one side and 5 degrees on the other. He's not entirely sure what the issue is, so he's smartly re-baselining everything. His Devin flies; a failure up front would be very, very bad. He was looking for some parts and it turned into some bench racing. It was fun - I like Dave very much, actually. Just would love to race him on an even playing field.

Ron

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Ron Soave"
 <soavero at yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 7:30 PM

I must have missed a message or two. Could you explain Ron?
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
I spent quite a bit of time on the phone this morning with the seller (Peter
did a stint as well, I think). Dave's going to need the money ;-)

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 10 20:44:00 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:44:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT?  Hmmmm
In-Reply-To: <287900.75013.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <287900.75013.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <485716.77460.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

it's the garage leakage that makes the MG a little more desirable...

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: HealeyRick <healeyrick at yahoo.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net; Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; Ron Soave 
<soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 5:15:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT?  Hmmmm


horse/mg ... horse/mg

prolly about equal in tailpipe emissions!

Rick

Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:


>From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT?  Hmmmm
>To: Spridgets at autox.team.net, "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
>Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 7:48 PM
>
>
>--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1833891747.html
>
>In 2001, my brother was interested in Larry Cogan's incredible 1970 Midget in 
>Florida. I drove while on vacation and deemed it near-perfect. I called him to 
>tell  him we had a deal, and he asked me to cancel it because they had decided 
>earlier that day to buy a horse instead. I thought that was pretty extreme - 
>horse/MG, horse/MG...
>
>So naturally I bought the car and have loved it ever since. I'll see it in 3 
>weeks for its semi annual week of fun.
>
>Ron
>_______________________________________________
>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 10 20:52:48 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:52:48 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT? Hmmmm
In-Reply-To: <485716.77460.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <287900.75013.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<485716.77460.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimmiu8dFx2sxePWqxscu35qv2dWTNOukPKvtpm0@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> it's the garage leakage that makes the MG a little more desirable...
>


What you are referring to is the innovative, brilliant English anti
corrosion system.  A small amount of engine oil is ejected through
various areas and spreads to lightly coat the undercarriage of the
car, thus preventing corrosion and greatly extending the life of the
car.

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun Jul 11 07:46:33 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 06:46:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring harness
Message-ID: <101a01cb20ff$79955450$0168010a@mail2world.com>

Hey guys,

I've got a short somewhere in the dash circuit (I think). The 2nd fuse
from the top keeps blowing, taking out the tach, fuel gauge, and turn
signals. The harness is from a '79 California spec Midget, but the car
itself is a mix of RB parts. 

I'm looking for input on my course of action. I figure I have 3 major
options:
1. Patch the 31 year old harness
2. Get a new harness from somewhere like British Wiring.
3. Put in a universal harness like Painless.

Each has its pluses and minuses. What do you guys think?

-=Chris
Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 11 07:57:13 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 06:57:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
In-Reply-To: <257759.43386.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <606499.82102.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks for explaining Ron. When I first decided to convert my Sprite to vintage specs I was thoroughly confused with my observations of "Vintage" cars, and I was asking questions here. It seems like vintage is the only place that you can be rewarded for flagrantly ignoring the rule book, and now it includes ignoring the class tire size! I saw an ad yesterday by an SCCA driver selling his Sprite and advertising that it only needs steel fenders to be vintage. This is a car that was a trick limited prep H/P just a couple of years ago, and I suppose we could see it at a vintage event now that the SCCA has screwed up H/P. For a while I was upset at the lack of rules enforcement, but lately I'm thinking the run what you brung approach will be fun. We are in the same boat though, I will be putting an old school engine together, and with the full cage the car has never weighed less than 1450 Lbs. That weight would be OK, but I am 40 Lbs. heavier than when I
 raced this car last! My summer is being consumed with this complete bare metal rebuild, and is a repeat of my summer 30 years ago. 
John
Fogelsville, PA

On Sat, 7/10/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speedwell Clip....
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "fastvee" <fastvee at yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010, 10:37 PM

The seller of the bonnet is Dave Jahimiak, aka Dr. J., he of the fastest Sprite in the country. White Trash can play with enough to make him notice us (I'm starting to consider my second place finishes as landslide victories), but I am giving away 45 horsepower and 160 pounds of dry weight to him(!!) per our discussion this AM. He also has some unconventional suspension setups and was running 225/45 tires on the car with bizarro custom offset on some $600 Compomotive wheels whereas us mere mortals are getting by with 185/60s.

Anyway, Dave is getting ready for the Kohler Classic (AKA the Brian Redman, AKA, Chicago Historics). At Road America races what is sort of a Devin SS, currently for sale for an optimistic $1.25M:

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Jul 11 10:55:19 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:55:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] AC
Message-ID: <EF0FF77331594623B60B6115C383DB5D@Home>

Any of you Southern guys ever tried replacing the heater core with an AC core (whatever it is called)?

Michael Rowe

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 11:23:12 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 11:23:12 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] AC
In-Reply-To: <EF0FF77331594623B60B6115C383DB5D@Home>
References: <EF0FF77331594623B60B6115C383DB5D@Home>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikXTGnmh-IH6XeKpzcP5XTB1hukQ3xW0zAF_Bti@mail.gmail.com>

No, but I've seen Vintage Air setups in old vehicles and they are very
good kits.
http://www.vintageair.com/

I'm sure you could cobble something together from a UPullIt yard for
pretty cheap.

I'd also add that for the price and headache of making something work
in a Spridget you might think about getting a Miata.  Drive the
Spridget when weather permits and drive the Miata when it is too hot.
A Miata is like an MGB with A/C that doesn't break down.
The A/C power loss on a Spridget would surely be noticeable.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Jul 11 16:51:05 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:51:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] xxxxxx----Spridgets] AC
In-Reply-To: <4C3A041D.3090407@justbrits.com>
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>H U H ??????  WTF do you have swirling around in yer brain, Michael ?!?!?  Ed

It is 90+ degrees in NY and my feet get hot.  I expect to have a similar problem when I take my BE to Honolulu, even though it never gets that hot, even in the desert.

If there were cold air instead of hot air coming out of the heater, my feet wouldn't get so hot.  If there were cold fluid instead of hot fluid in the heater box, the fan would blow cold air.  All of the rest of an AC system can be remote.  

At least some modern small cars have small electrical rather than engine-driven pumps.  I looked at one on new Mini this week.  It's electric compressor was about 4"x6".  I couldn't see the rest of the gadgetry, but much is a special console in the car that would not work well in a Spridget.

It probably makes more sense to put louvers in the sides of the bonnet and run air in through the side panel.  Repairing my quarterlight so it will reverse and blow on my chest made a huge difference.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jul 11 17:51:55 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 19:51:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring harness
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Find out what is shorted first.  It might not be the harness
that is shorted.

Follow everything from that fuse in the diagram.
Disconnect things until the short goes away.


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris King
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 9:47 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring harness

Hey guys,

I've got a short somewhere in the dash circuit (I think). The 2nd fuse
from the top keeps blowing, taking out the tach, fuel gauge, and turn
signals. The harness is from a '79 California spec Midget, but the car
itself is a mix of RB parts. 

I'm looking for input on my course of action. I figure I have 3 major
options:
1. Patch the 31 year old harness
2. Get a new harness from somewhere like British Wiring.
3. Put in a universal harness like Painless.

Each has its pluses and minuses. What do you guys think?

-=Chris
Chris King
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jul 11 18:06:44 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:06:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring harness
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On 7/11/2010 9:46 AM, Chris King wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I've got a short somewhere in the dash circuit
> 1. Patch the 31 year old harness
> 2. Get a new harness from somewhere like British Wiring.
> 3. Put in a universal harness like Painless.

Check to see exactly when the fuse blows.
When you step on the brakes? Then it's the brake light wire or something 
in the boot that frayed that wire.
When the signals go left or right?
Wipers on?
Heater blower on?
Check each item with all the others off until you blow the fuse.
Most of the time, it's a wire in the trunk that got nicked and is now 
shorting out.
If it blows with nothing on as soon as you turn on the key, it's a wire 
from the either the tach or fuel gauge hitting something it shouldn't 
under the dash.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 11 18:21:26 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:21:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring harness
In-Reply-To: <4C3A5C94.4060708@comcast.net>
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	<4C3A5C94.4060708@comcast.net>
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To add on to Frank's-Go to Radio Shack or similar and get a cheap 10 amp
circuit breaker, hook two wires on to it with alligator clips on the ends of
each. Remove the fuse in question, hook one alligator clip to each fuse
contact and then run Frank's test. You will be able to hear the "pop" when it
blows and then you can reset it about 15 seconds later to do it again.BillM

> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:06:44 -0400
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: cbking at alum.rpi.edu
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wiring harness
>
> On 7/11/2010 9:46 AM, Chris King wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I've got a short somewhere in the dash circuit
> > 1. Patch the 31 year old harness
> > 2. Get a new harness from somewhere like British Wiring.
> > 3. Put in a universal harness like Painless.
>
> Check to see exactly when the fuse blows.
> When you step on the brakes? Then it's the brake light wire or something
> in the boot that frayed that wire.
> When the signals go left or right?
> Wipers on?
> Heater blower on?
> Check each item with all the others off until you blow the fuse.
> Most of the time, it's a wire in the trunk that got nicked and is now
> shorting out.
> If it blows with nothing on as soon as you turn on the key, it's a wire
> from the either the tach or fuel gauge hitting something it shouldn't
> under the dash.
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Sun Jul 11 18:51:18 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (an5.sprite at gmail.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 00:51:18 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring harness
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References: <101a01cb20ff$79955450$0168010a@mail2world.com>,
	<4C3A5C94.4060708@comcast.net><SNT123-W55E005584B2E91A44B22E4CAB80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <mailman.15.1278895832.911.spridgets@autox.team.net>

The other way to run the test is to hook up a 12 volt light bulb across the fuse. Keep on testing until the light goes out. You can also try wiggling different parts of the harness to see if the light flickers to help pin-point the problem area.
Steve
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 17:21:26 
Cc: spridget list<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wiring harness

To add on to Frank's-Go to Radio Shack or similar and get a cheap 10 amp
circuit breaker, hook two wires on to it with alligator clips on the ends of
each. Remove the fuse in question, hook one alligator clip to each fuse
contact and then run Frank's test. You will be able to hear the "pop" when it
blows and then you can reset it about 15 seconds later to do it again.BillM

> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:06:44 -0400
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: cbking at alum.rpi.edu
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wiring harness
>
> On 7/11/2010 9:46 AM, Chris King wrote:
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > I've got a short somewhere in the dash circuit
> > 1. Patch the 31 year old harness
> > 2. Get a new harness from somewhere like British Wiring.
> > 3. Put in a universal harness like Painless.
>
> Check to see exactly when the fuse blows.
> When you step on the brakes? Then it's the brake light wire or something
> in the boot that frayed that wire.
> When the signals go left or right?
> Wipers on?
> Heater blower on?
> Check each item with all the others off until you blow the fuse.
> Most of the time, it's a wire in the trunk that got nicked and is now
> shorting out.
> If it blows with nothing on as soon as you turn on the key, it's a wire
> from the either the tach or fuel gauge hitting something it shouldn't
> under the dash.
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> Lots of Sprites
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jul 12 07:20:41 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 06:20:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring harness
Message-ID: <29b701cb21c5$0692d0b0$056a010a@mail2world.com>

That's the symptom. Thanks - looks like I need to look under the dash
for something.

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net]
Sent: 7/11/2010 8:07:44 PM
To: cbking at alum.rpi.edu
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wiring harness 

On 7/11/2010 9:46 AM, Chris King wrote: 
> Hey guys, 
> 
> I've got a short somewhere in the dash circuit 
> 1. Patch the 31 year old harness 
> 2. Get a new harness from somewhere like British Wiring. 
> 3. Put in a universal harness like Painless. 

If it blows with nothing on as soon as you turn on the key, it's a wire 
from the either the tach or fuel gauge hitting something it shouldn't 
under the dash. 
-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
Lots of Sprites 
. 

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jul 12 07:21:53 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 06:21:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring harness
Message-ID: <0b7201cb21c5$316f9020$0168010a@mail2world.com>

Good idea! saves me from going through a lot of fuses.

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Bill Masquelier [billmasq at hotmail.com]
Sent: 7/11/2010 8:22:26 PM
To: 
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wiring harness 

To add on to Frank's-Go to Radio Shack or similar and get a cheap 10 amp
circuit breaker, hook two wires on to it with alligator clips on the
ends of 
each. Remove the fuse in question, hook one alligator clip to each fuse 
contact and then run Frank's test. You will be able to hear the "pop"
when it 
blows and then you can reset it about 15 seconds later to do it
again.BillM 

> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 20:06:44 -0400 
> From: spritenut at comcast.net 
> To: cbking at alum.rpi.edu 
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net 
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wiring harness 
> 
> On 7/11/2010 9:46 AM, Chris King wrote: 
> > Hey guys, 
> > 
> > I've got a short somewhere in the dash circuit 
> > 1. Patch the 31 year old harness 
> > 2. Get a new harness from somewhere like British Wiring. 
> > 3. Put in a universal harness like Painless. 
> 
> Check to see exactly when the fuse blows. 
> When you step on the brakes? Then it's the brake light wire or
something 
> in the boot that frayed that wire. 
> When the signals go left or right? 
> Wipers on? 
> Heater blower on? 
> Check each item with all the others off until you blow the fuse. 
> Most of the time, it's a wire in the trunk that got nicked and is now 
> shorting out. 
> If it blows with nothing on as soon as you turn on the key, it's a
wire 
> from the either the tach or fuel gauge hitting something it shouldn't 
> under the dash. 
> -- 
> Frank Clarici 
> Toms River, NJ 
> Lots of Sprites 
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Jul 12 10:09:37 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 11:09:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine build...no LBC
Message-ID: <4C3B3E41.9010005@wi.net>

Ron, if you want to trade up to a Zo6 or ZR1 hears deal for you!

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100712/CARNEWS/100719981

Watch the video then scroll to the last one for a fast-action ZR1-LS9 
build.  Almost as fast as Ron and Frank rebuilding a A-series.

Dave W.
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Jul 12 10:27:49 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:27:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Update: speedometer repair?
Message-ID: <20100712162749.7P979.123498.root@hrndva-web04-z02>

just an update-I've had so many people email me about similar problems with their speedometer.

I ruled out the cable.  Even after removing the cable the needle will not zero.
after trying some tips and tricks sent, I decided to open it up.  GOBS of sticky graphite looking grease all over.
I'm in the process of cleaning it out with some mild electrical cleaner for now.  I'm amazed it even worked at all.  I figure after parking it outside in the sun a few days it softened the goop up enough and gravity did its thing.

Chris

---- cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: 
> Hi all-
> 
> my speedometer just started to wig out yesterday and appears to think 25 mph is 125 or so.  The odometer still seems true though.
> 
> Anything I can try without really messing up the innards?
> 
> thanks
> Chris

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Mon Jul 12 10:58:53 2010
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 09:58:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets]  Question Regarding a Rib Case
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Hi Kirk,

The crunching you describe shifting into second is usually from a worn  
baulk ring. I doubt you could have caused the extra wear from your  
recent TO bearing issue, but I suppose it's possible if it was  
marginal already. 2nd is usually the first to go. The other issue  
could be that you are not getting enough free play for the clutch and  
you are still marginally engaged when you shift. If the second gear  
baulk ring is marginal, it could behave like this when shifting to  
second, but not the other gears,

If you are interested in doing a 5 speed swap, I will have kits  
available and am already doing the flywheel conversions for the Datsun  
clutch for a couple of people. If you want to get your flywheel done  
now, I could include you in the batch I'm getting together now. I also  
have one gearbox available for sale.

Let me know

Gerard


On Jul 10, 2010, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:56:36 -0700
> From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Question Regarding a Rib Case
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTikwVS7TjfDGZDhd6x84-CijIRe0uPmwy4k1nLWb at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I had problems with my throw out bearing going out pre-maturely.  I  
> think I
> have solved the problem.  Per Frank I shortened the slave rod to  
> spec and I
> also found an old throw out bearing that I
> had amongst some parts.  I believe that this TB may be of better
> construction than many, if not just about all of the new ones that are
> sourced today.  It looked solid as well.  . as much as one might be  
> able to
> tell by looking at it.
>
> On this last TB failure. . I was a few miles from home and had to  
> drive the
> car back home by killing the engine and starting it again.  The gear  
> box
> also took a beating.  I was not up for a $70 + tow bill being as  
> close to
> home as I was.  .so I did whatever it took to get the car back into my
> garage.
>
> Since then, shifting into first and then to second. . I get a crunch.
> Sometimes, I am able to avoid this. .  depending on the feel of the  
> gear
> shift and the way that I am shifting.  But for the most part I am  
> often
> crunching a slight bit into first and then crunching from first to  
> second
> with all the other two gears working as normal.
>
> I plan to install a 5 speed.  . but  I am waiting for some money to  
> come in
> order to be able and do so.  As such I have not been to concerned  
> about the
> rib case.
>
> But I was wondering if anyone had an idea as to what I may have done  
> to my
> current gear box. .  what is going wrong with first and second?
>
> What got hurt inside the box when I was driving it home that day?
>
> Kirk
> 59 1275

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Mon Jul 12 11:26:47 2010
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:26:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Sing: The hub's connected to the wish-bone. The
 wishbone's connected to the... hmm....
Message-ID: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E343B8313@DF-M14-03.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

Whilst attempting to bleed my brakes yesterday (first time - mixed success) I
observed something unfortunate on my MK4 Sprite.

As you all know, the shock absorbers are those little magic boxes, connected
to the hub via a trunion thing. A pin comes out of the shock and goes through
one end of the trunion. I was surprised to notice yesterday that the trunion
moved entirely independent of that pin. That made me wonder exactly how my
shock absorber worked, as I must have misunderstood it.

A brief view of the other side of the car revealed that the pin does *not*
move independently of the trunion. It has little teeth on it, which connect to
little teeth on the inside of the trunion. Hmm.

Back to the other side, and my pin has no teeth on it. The trunion looks like
it's got its ones, but the pin has only a couple of very faint ones and spins
around gaily. This may account for the fact that my suspension is a bit
saggy.

My question is: Can I take the shock apart and replace this pin? Would the
"fulcrum pin repair kit" on
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29294 do the
job?

I thought I'd post here before dismantling the shock and being the object of
ridicule..

Chris

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 12 11:39:51 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:39:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine build...no LBC
In-Reply-To: <4C3B3E41.9010005@wi.net>
Message-ID: <954769.11193.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Next time!

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> From: Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Engine build...no LBC
> To: "Spridgets" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 11:09 AM
> Ron, if you want to trade up to a Zo6
> or ZR1 hears deal for you!
>
> http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100712/CARNEWS/100719981
>
> Watch the video then scroll to the last one for a
> fast-action ZR1-LS9 build.  Almost as fast as Ron and
> Frank rebuilding a A-series.
>
> Dave W.
> 59 :{)
> 59 MGA 1500
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From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jul 12 13:21:02 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 14:21:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sing: The hub's connected to the wish-bone. The
 wishbone's connected to the... hmm....
In-Reply-To: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E343B8313@DF-M14-03.exchang
	e.corp.microsoft.com>
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Message-ID: <20100712122135.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Chris,
         I need to step in here, but I haven't much time to write a 
dissertation. (I have in the past, and maybe it can be found in some 
archive) BUT...
         The "pin" is actually a shaft. The part you see is a tapered 
spline, and the shock arm (not trunnion) is mated to it with a 
matching tapered spline. The big nut pulls down on a flat thick 
washer and keeps the whole thing very tight, unless what has happened 
to you. Once the arm and shaft have separated and there is ANY play, 
you have essential no shock, and more worrisome, no upper control arm!
         We figured a way to repair the slightly loose ones, but we 
discard the very worn ones, as yours sounds.
         Causes of the condition range from someone thinking it's OK 
to remove that big nut, to no oil in the shock, and something's got 
to give. Neither are safe.
         I know a guy what can rebuild your shocks, but the condition 
of the arm and shaft diminishes the value of the core.

Peter C.
         BTW, a trunnion is a suspension part that is a joint or 
pivot connection enabling rotation and/or tilting. Specifically the 
thing attaching the end of the shock arm to the kingpin. They also 
mate on the full moon on the beaches in Baja, or something.
-------------------------

At 12:26 PM 7/12/2010, Chris Rae wrote:
>Whilst attempting to bleed my brakes yesterday (first time - mixed success) I
>observed something unfortunate on my MK4 Sprite.
>
>As you all know, the shock absorbers are those little magic boxes, connected
>to the hub via a trunion thing. A pin comes out of the shock and goes through
>one end of the trunion. I was surprised to notice yesterday that the trunion
>moved entirely independent of that pin. That made me wonder exactly how my
>shock absorber worked, as I must have misunderstood it.
>
>A brief view of the other side of the car revealed that the pin does *not*
>move independently of the trunion. It has little teeth on it, which connect to
>little teeth on the inside of the trunion. Hmm.
>
>Back to the other side, and my pin has no teeth on it. The trunion looks like
>it's got its ones, but the pin has only a couple of very faint ones and spins
>around gaily. This may account for the fact that my suspension is a bit
>saggy.
>
>My question is: Can I take the shock apart and replace this pin? Would the
>"fulcrum pin repair kit" on
>http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29294 do the
>job?
>
>I thought I'd post here before dismantling the shock and being the object of
>ridicule..
>
>Chris

From kmwerner at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 21:24:22 2010
From: kmwerner at gmail.com (Kyle Werner)
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:24:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
Message-ID: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>

Hey forum,
I recently brought home my dad's MG midget 1970 (1275cc) and I'm hoping to
get it running and fixed up. I've been quickly going through all the
interior stuff, but thats not my real problem.

The car sat in my grandparents barn for 26 years with no starts or anything.
Right now, the electrical system works (surprisingly enough!), and we have
dash lights, horn, etc. all good. When i turn the ignition, the engine lets
out a loud click, and nothing happens.

I'm going to get together with some friends tomorrow and do general
maintenance, (oil, carbeurators, fuel, etc.) but does anybody have any ideas
as to where i might start with this?

I have access to basically any tool you can imagine, and my plan right now
is to *carefully* rebuild the engine. I'm thinking that it is seized up from
the inside pretty good after a long wait.

Thanks for any ideas,
-Kyle Werner

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jul 12 23:01:44 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:01:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilpYneY0SPt50Hmez_s5vbRNnVIc6vm7ZeXBlbP@mail.gmail.com>

Whoa!!!   Don't rebuild the engine just because you get a "click" trying to
start it!!   Not saying it doesn't need it, but you ought to at least get it
running before you make that decision!   That click means that there isn't
enough current getting to the starter to turn it over.  First thing to do is
clean both battery contacts, the solenoid contacts, and then the contact at
the starter and the ground contact (engine to frame).  If the starter still
doesn't turn over you can move on to the more expensive stuff! Next item
would be how much cranking power is left in the battery...

Point is... its not the engine that is clicking!!  It's the solenoid!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Kyle Werner <kmwerner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey forum,
> I recently brought home my dad's MG midget 1970 (1275cc) and I'm hoping to
> get it running and fixed up. I've been quickly going through all the
> interior stuff, but thats not my real problem.
>
> The car sat in my grandparents barn for 26 years with no starts or
> anything.
> Right now, the electrical system works (surprisingly enough!), and we have
> dash lights, horn, etc. all good. When i turn the ignition, the engine lets
> out a loud click, and nothing happens.
>
> I'm going to get together with some friends tomorrow and do general
> maintenance, (oil, carbeurators, fuel, etc.) but does anybody have any
> ideas
> as to where i might start with this?
>
> I have access to basically any tool you can imagine, and my plan right now
> is to *carefully* rebuild the engine. I'm thinking that it is seized up
> from
> the inside pretty good after a long wait.
>
> Thanks for any ideas,
> -Kyle Werner
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 00:29:31 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:29:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin6qRM9TSkTUniTQ7ZzJDkDXQ71aiIj67rqCEGE@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:24 PM, Kyle Werner <kmwerner at gmail.com> wrote:
but does anybody have any ideas as to where i might start with this?

Pull the spark plugs, squirt some oil into each cylinder and try to
turn the engine by hand. If it moves, you have a shot... Assuming that
it isn't frozen, change the oil and filter. Change the anti-freeze.
Just put water in for the time being if you want to wait until you
know more. Pull the dizzy and set it up with new everything. Every
spridget that I have ever seen brought back to life required this.
Spin the motor over with the plugs out to move the oil though it by
cranking it over with the starter for a few seconds at a time. Don't
overheat the starter.. Check for fuel, spark and compression. Fire it
up!. The clutch is probably stuck too. After you get it running, bump
start it in 1st gear, hold the clutch down and drive it in circles til
the disk pops loose.
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Jul 13 01:31:54 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:31:54 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
References: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilpYneY0SPt50Hmez_s5vbRNnVIc6vm7ZeXBlbP@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CD140A2CE116485AAA91501F7206E524@user8634b3d69b>

Kyle,
I'm going to presume you have checked / changed the oil, this really is 
vital.  Then have a look at the fuel - is that 26 years old?  Oil in top of 
SU carbs often drains / dries out so that will need a top up.  Now stomp on 
the brakes as hard as you can for around 20secs or so.  The brake pedal will 
be hard to press but it should stay rock steady.  Next is to take the spark 
plugs out and turn the engine over by hand for some time to get oil up and 
about in the engine.  A debatable point is to squirt a little oil in through 
the plug holes to lubricate the rings / cylinder walls.  A couple of seconds 
worth of something like WD40 should do no harm.  The rockers at the top of 
the engine will be dry and if you hand prime the oil up there that's fine. 
If it is hard to turn the engine over then try (spark plugs out) pushing or 
towing it (slowly) whilst in 2nd or 3rd gear.  That should turn the engine 
over without too much problem.
It is a damage limitation exercise you are trying to perform, a 'dry' engine 
WILL self destruct fairly quickly and if it runs you will want to try to 
drive it round on brakes that haven't moved for possibly longer than you 
have lived!
Jim Johnson is going to be right about the clicking noise which is why you 
need to find the reason for it.  It can be the starter, it can be the 
engine.  Turning it over without the spark plugs in doesn't just start the 
oil pumping , it shows the engine is free to turn over - the clicking 
problem is now confined to the starter motor / battery.  My next step (after 
the above) would be to put a set of jump leads on from a running car to see 
what happens (spark plugs still out) and see if the engine turns over.  If 
it does, screw the plugs back in, connect the plug leads and fire it up 
still using the jump leads.
The other thing is to nail your Dad down as to why it was stored.  What 
defect made him take it off the road?  There was a reason, find out why.

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG


> Whoa!!!   Don't rebuild the engine just because you get a "click" trying 
> to
> start it!!  <snip>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Kyle Werner <kmwerner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey forum,
>> I recently brought home my dad's MG midget 1970 (1275cc) and I'm hoping 
>> to
>> get it running and fixed up. I've been quickly going through all the
>> interior stuff, but thats not my real problem.
>>  <snip>
>> The car sat in my grandparents barn for 26 years with no starts or
>> anything.

>> Thanks for any ideas,
>> -Kyle Werner
>> _______________________________________________

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 04:37:25 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 06:37:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] That Will Buff Out,
	Vehicles in Compromising Positions web site
Message-ID: <AANLkTimqzaDrXSZbus2BxIxpdsM6xQeTXytxNd5Wuhom@mail.gmail.com>

List,
This site is hilarious thought you guys & gals would enjoy it.
Lin

One of my favorite pictures:
http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129108407645285806.jpg

web site:
http://thatwillbuffout.com

From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Jul 13 06:09:43 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:09:43 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] That Will Buff Out,
 Vehicles in Compromising  Positions web site
References: <AANLkTimqzaDrXSZbus2BxIxpdsM6xQeTXytxNd5Wuhom@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5701772B7E0A44C094CE6FEFFDFE78BD@user8634b3d69b>

Lin,

This site is bad.
It eats much too much time and could easily become addictive.  <smile>
So far it has had one and a half lunch hours....

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:37 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] That Will Buff Out,Vehicles in Compromising Positions 
web site


> List,
> This site is hilarious thought you guys & gals would enjoy it.
> Lin
>
> One of my favorite pictures:
> http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129108407645285806.jpg
>
> web site:
> http://thatwillbuffout.com
> _______________________________________________
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 06:33:50 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:33:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] That Will Buff Out,
 Vehicles in Compromising  Positions  web site
In-Reply-To: <5701772B7E0A44C094CE6FEFFDFE78BD@user8634b3d69b>
References: <AANLkTimqzaDrXSZbus2BxIxpdsM6xQeTXytxNd5Wuhom@mail.gmail.com>
	<5701772B7E0A44C094CE6FEFFDFE78BD@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimiHmFBG8pcq9hywV4HgJwGdWh5Ft0GXQMbVZBw@mail.gmail.com>

Guy,
Yes terribly addicting, hahahaha.
Lin

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> Lin,
>
> This site is bad.
> It eats much too much time and could easily become addictive.  <smile>
> So far it has had one and a half lunch hours....
>
> Guy R Day
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" <
> grunthaner at gmail.com>
> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 11:37 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] That Will Buff Out,Vehicles in Compromising Positions
> web site
>
>
>  List,
>> This site is hilarious thought you guys & gals would enjoy it.
>> Lin
>>
>> One of my favorite pictures:
>> http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129108407645285806.jpg
>>
>> web site:
>> http://thatwillbuffout.com
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 06:37:04 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 08:37:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] That Will Buff Out,
 Vehicles in Compromising   Positions web site
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimqzaDrXSZbus2BxIxpdsM6xQeTXytxNd5Wuhom@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimqzaDrXSZbus2BxIxpdsM6xQeTXytxNd5Wuhom@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim_ZKi6GImNQ06cwQtnu7oa28R1m1czT_rCnkFF@mail.gmail.com>

Where do they find this stuff. Thanks for the laughs.

Steve

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> List,
> This site is hilarious thought you guys & gals would enjoy it.
> Lin
>
> One of my favorite pictures:
> http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129108407645285806.jpg
>
> web site:
> http://thatwillbuffout.com
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 08:03:02 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:03:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] That Will Buff Out,
 Vehicles in Compromising   Positions web site
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim_ZKi6GImNQ06cwQtnu7oa28R1m1czT_rCnkFF@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimqzaDrXSZbus2BxIxpdsM6xQeTXytxNd5Wuhom@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim_ZKi6GImNQ06cwQtnu7oa28R1m1czT_rCnkFF@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinFNm_j1qELS9VA_mEQ4MKDsQi96cKfGCS4wMjn@mail.gmail.com>

People like us post there : )
Lin

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Steven Guterman <an5.sprite at gmail.com>wrote:

> Where do they find this stuff. Thanks for the laughs.
>
> Steve
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> List,
>> This site is hilarious thought you guys & gals would enjoy it.
>> Lin
>>
>> One of my favorite pictures:
>> http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129108407645285806.jpg
>>
>> web site:
>> http://thatwillbuffout.com
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jul 13 08:38:11 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:38:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: [Healey] Conclave
In-Reply-To: <E2AE634F7477492EA46F5B89520B7BE3@RobsTLT2PC>
References: <507187.27175.qm@web51402.mail.re2.yahoo.com>,
	<E2AE634F7477492EA46F5B89520B7BE3@RobsTLT2PC>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w64F46F3D2AA59910EAFC25B8B90@phx.gbl>

Bugeyes and big AHs.
Forwarded from the Healeys list.

Robert Duquette

Ottawa ON Canada

1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )

1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )

1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen
)http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg


> To: healeys at autox.team.net
>
> Hi Everyone
>       I have put pictures of Conclave at this web address
>
>     http://picasaweb.google.com/bobs63ah   ( cut and paste into browser )
>
>    I will be posting more as they are taken.
>
>                        Bob     1963 bj7

From george.brokaw at cox.net  Tue Jul 13 10:27:18 2010
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (Paul Herder)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 11:27:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] That Will Buff Out,
 Vehicles in Compromising  Positions web site
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimqzaDrXSZbus2BxIxpdsM6xQeTXytxNd5Wuhom@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimqzaDrXSZbus2BxIxpdsM6xQeTXytxNd5Wuhom@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <025101cb22a8$4384ae10$ca8e0a30$@cox.net>

Here is another site that I visit every morning!

http://www.youdrivewhat.com/

Paul


-----Original Message-----

List,
This site is hilarious thought you guys & gals would enjoy it.
Lin

One of my favorite pictures:
http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129108407645285806.jpg

web site:
http://thatwillbuffout.com

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 13 12:10:55 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 11:10:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <986056.94265.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Try marvel oil in the top through the plug hole.
Let it sit for a dy. Then try to turn over the motor by hand.
You may be suprised it may tunr over and be ok.
Besure to drain the old gas and replace it.
 
I did this - only i let it sit for over a week - be cause i others things to
do.
When i can back the oil had doneits job and the motor was able to turn over.
The motor ran for several years before needing a rebuild.
I may have just got lucky - But i have been told by others they did the same
thing.
And theremotors ran too.
 
Vigil

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Kyle Werner <kmwerner at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Kyle Werner <kmwerner at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
To: "Spridgets" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 8:24 PM


Hey forum,
I recently brought home my dad's MG midget 1970 (1275cc) and I'm hoping to
get it running and fixed up. I've been quickly going through all the
interior stuff, but thats not my real problem.

The car sat in my grandparents barn for 26 years with no starts or anything.
Right now, the electrical system works (surprisingly enough!), and we have
dash lights, horn, etc. all good. When i turn the ignition, the engine lets
out a loud click, and nothing happens.

I'm going to get together with some friends tomorrow and do general
maintenance, (oil, carbeurators, fuel, etc.) but does anybody have any ideas
as to where i might start with this?

I have access to basically any tool you can imagine, and my plan right now
is to *carefully* rebuild the engine. I'm thinking that it is seized up from
the inside pretty good after a long wait.

Thanks for any ideas,
-Kyle Werner
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jul 13 16:50:25 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:50:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C3CEDB1.7030003@comcast.net>

A few more notes.....
The starter may be jammed, there is a square shaft on the back end, put 
a wrench on it and give it a twist. That is as long as the engine is not 
seized.
Also double check the ground wire, it is under the car from the inner 
seat rail (passenger side) to the bell housing or slave cyl bolt.
Make sure it's there, tight and clean.
Once it spins over, pull the top of the carb float lids off.
3 screws each, check for any mung in the bowls, fill them 3/4 with fresh 
gas and NOW see if it fires up. I would pull the wire off the electric 
fuel pump behind the right rear wheel so it doesn't pump whatever is in 
the tank into the carbs for now.
We all hope you get it running and we are here to see to it. :)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 19:44:09 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:44:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <4C3CEDB1.7030003@comcast.net>
References: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C3CEDB1.7030003@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilxxwQB5KzICQFH1y3rjyGNtBOx1EOrMHrfl9X0@mail.gmail.com>

Strange.  There are two similar threads running on both the Spridget
list and Miatapower mailing lists.
The Miata guy got his started by squirting a little Marvel Oil in the
plug holes and cleaning the battery terminals.
I'm sure you can get that thing going pretty easily.  The old A-Series
motor is basically a tractor motor.

Get spark first, then fuel.  You can always feed a little fuel into
the carbs like Frank described.

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 13 21:15:02 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:15:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A0D97BA-19F8-4CC8-8B5B-D24822F92537@gmail.com>

On Jul 12, 2010, at 11:24 PM, Kyle Werner wrote:

> Hey forum,
> I recently brought home my dad's MG midget 1970 (1275cc) and I'm  
> hoping to
> get it running and fixed up.

Kyle,

Where are you located?

Kevin V.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jul 13 22:55:52 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:55:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikn9-_PiOhM-KVJ5Iet0r-AJWa6HpInYyYG9yKL@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A7C8B7C48DAE48148623845142CB73FD@blackbox2>

I'll throw in my 2 cents.

When you drain the old gas I would also drop the float bowls on the carbs
Clean them up, make sure the float valves work, and make sure the float
vents are clear.

If possible have an assistant watch over things while you attempt starting
to make sure you don't have any fuel leaking.

Having a fire extinguisher handy is good idea.

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Jul 14 19:17:34 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 20:17:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Square Body New Carpet Set For Sale
Message-ID: <F3C99EAD67FE4C13A149FADBBEE5E912@Dell9200>

I have a new black carpet set that I am not going to use.  I ordered it new 
last winter and have decided to go another direction.  It is made by 
Carrelli in the UK.  I will sell it to the first list member that wants it 
for $100 + $20 shipping.  Contact me off list if you are interested.  Got to 
get some stuff out of the garage and thought I would try it here before 
eBay.

Mark
Nashville 

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Thu Jul 15 01:20:10 2010
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:20:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <mailman.14.1279130403.21066.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.14.1279130403.21066.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <35E899BE-2AAB-4847-9000-C724DA180F7E@gerardsgarage.com>

Kevin,

OK, I gotta chime in here... All great suggestions so far, however no  
one has mentioned that you will most likely have NO oil pressure after  
the car has been sitting for this long. Once you have followed all the  
previous tips, especially the Marvel Mystery Oil and old gas issues,  
you should not try to start the engine without first making sure it  
develops some oil pressure on the gauge. My experience is that no  
amount of cranking, even with the plugs out, will give you any oil  
pressure. You can try, but even engines I've tried to fire after  
sitting even a couple years will have already drained all the oil from  
the oil pump. With the pump completely dry, it will only suck more air.

An easy way to deal with the issue is to remove either the pressure  
relief valve or the banjo bolt at the oil filter bypass connection at  
the block. Both these are 15/16" hex head, located  at the right rear  
of the engine block, just below the cylinder head. The pressure relief  
valve is the one with the domed head and is below the filter bypass  
connection. If you remove the bypass one, there will be a spring and a  
small piston you will need to remove. Depending on the size of your  
little finger, you may be able extract the hollow piston by inserting  
your finger, otherwise, use a small magnetic wand. If you remove the  
banjo bolt, take care not to lose the copper washers on either side of  
the pipe connection. A few squirts of oil with an oil can or a squeeze  
bottle will usually do the trick. Reinstall whichever parts you  
removed and crank it with the plugs out until you start to see the  
needle move on the oil pressure gauge. Once you have pressure, and  
your carbs are de-shellacked of old gas, clean the plugs before re- 
installing and make sure you have spark. Depending on the  
environmental conditions where the car was stored, you may be  
surprised that it will start and run fine, though it may smoke for a  
while.

One more thing. The cooling system will probably need a good cleaning.  
There will be corrosion between the cast iron head and the aluminum  
thermostat housing and you could have enough rust build up in the  
system that passages are blocked. The thermostat will likely be toast  
too.  Make sure to flush the system well before letting it run for any  
length of time.

Good luck!

Gerard
http://gerardsgarage.com/

On Jul 14, 2010, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> From: Kyle Werner <kmwerner at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
> To: "Spridgets" <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 8:24 PM
>
>
> Hey forum,
> I recently brought home my dad's MG midget 1970 (1275cc) and I'm  
> hoping to
> get it running and fixed up. I've been quickly going through all the
> interior stuff, but thats not my real problem.
>
> The car sat in my grandparents barn for 26 years with no starts or  
> anything.
> Right now, the electrical system works (surprisingly enough!), and  
> we have
> dash lights, horn, etc. all good. When i turn the ignition, the  
> engine lets
> out a loud click, and nothing happens.
>
> I'm going to get together with some friends tomorrow and do general
> maintenance, (oil, carbeurators, fuel, etc.) but does anybody have  
> any ideas
> as to where i might start with this?
>
> I have access to basically any tool you can imagine, and my plan  
> right now
> is to *carefully* rebuild the engine. I'm thinking that it is seized  
> up from
> the inside pretty good after a long wait.
>
> Thanks for any ideas,
> -Kyle Werner

From kristi74midget at comcast.net  Thu Jul 15 07:10:54 2010
From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 09:10:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Join me in the fight against ALS
Message-ID: <0BC95F13-8855-48AA-97C9-09E47DCD5658@comcast.net>

HI all -

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Defeat ALSK! Through your generous support and participation, we raised more
than $1 million in the states of Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware to help
those affected by ALS, more commonly known as Lou Gehrig's Disease. The seven
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900 persons with ALS and their families that The Association serves. We could
not have done this without you!

This year, my hope for the Walk is to raise even more money and bring more
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support by making a gift to The ALS Association or by joining me as a
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This year, I will continue to Walk in honor of Janet (Macy) Lindbloom, who
lost her courageous battle with ALS. During her struggle with the debilitating
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This inspiration encouraged me to join the fight against ALS. I hope you will
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From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Thu Jul 15 15:49:31 2010
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:49:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1279216803.28270.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.17.1279216803.28270.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <D2561DB3-5D0E-4804-882E-36B145ED2500@gerardsgarage.com>

Sorry, I typed "Kevin", instead of Kyle...

Gerard

On Jul 15, 2010, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:20:10 -0700
> From: Gerard <pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Message-ID: <35E899BE-2AAB-4847-9000-C724DA180F7E at gerardsgarage.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Kevin,

> ...

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 20:09:55 2010
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:09:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Trying to start up the old MG
In-Reply-To: <D2561DB3-5D0E-4804-882E-36B145ED2500@gerardsgarage.com>
References: <mailman.17.1279216803.28270.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<D2561DB3-5D0E-4804-882E-36B145ED2500@gerardsgarage.com>
Message-ID: <18FA3D6C-A93E-492C-800B-F2B96CA3F667@gmail.com>

On Jul 15, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Gerard wrote:

> Sorry, I typed "Kevin", instead of Kyle...


Gerard,

That's OK.....    I don't mind ;)

Kevin V.

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 15 21:26:59 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A - Party - July 11th, 2010
Message-ID: <362667.81304.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Groups,
 
Sunday i went down to Escondido as planed to take Paul to Dixon Park. 
I drove my 1960 Tourer down PCH to San Clemente -
Then the 5 freeway through Oceanside to the 78 Freeway to Escondido.
Even thought it takes longer it is a lot nicer ride..I put ran up over 200
miles round trip.
 
A few of the old time Morris people showed up.
Greg Emmett, Al Castillian, Jim Van Hoven,
There was one person i did not know who had the Morris Minor Tourer.
John Felt & family who brought his nice Bugeye Sprite.
Bob Gardner came to the event even after eye surgery recently.
Jim Crowder and wife - Many thanks for opening there home to all of use for
lunch,
There was two Morris Minors Tourers  and one Bugeye sprite.
We stayed at the park for a couple of hours socializing - then went to Jim's
house.
He has a MG midget and MGB roadster.
We had a great lunch and went on our separate ways.
It was great day and thanks to the people who attended. 
It was nice meeting the new people and having a fun day for Paul.
 
Paul was sleeping when i went to get him. He did not remember i was coming.
It was not one of his best days at first. He seemed better as the day went
on.
I know he had a great time - he asked if we could do it again.
 
Vigil
So Cal 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 21:29:05 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:29:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] That Will Buff Out,
 Vehicles in Compromising   Positions web site
In-Reply-To: <025101cb22a8$4384ae10$ca8e0a30$@cox.net>
References: <AANLkTimqzaDrXSZbus2BxIxpdsM6xQeTXytxNd5Wuhom@mail.gmail.com>
	<025101cb22a8$4384ae10$ca8e0a30$@cox.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilvz8fBuVnojyAY2XYv0YpmjtizhHnzeyqRRdUg@mail.gmail.com>

Whoa 181 pages.
Lin

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Paul Herder <george.brokaw at cox.net> wrote:

> Here is another site that I visit every morning!
>
> http://www.youdrivewhat.com/
>
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> List,
> This site is hilarious thought you guys & gals would enjoy it.
> Lin
>
> One of my favorite pictures:
> http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129108407645285806.jpg
>
> web site:
> http://thatwillbuffout.com

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 22:06:57 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:06:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I fixed it But?
In-Reply-To: <4C33D1CA.2070806@comcast.net>
References: <4C2D1CED.3030301@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTikz3dtJbfDHZ-tUgxGUC8BAi6RiU07QLRxk3hi0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C33D1CA.2070806@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik_LDYb_qtzkgDoA2ktOg2f2cgGj6qNZhkPpxmt@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome find Frank, it is so cool to hear stuff like this.
Lin

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> On 7/1/2010 7:02 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
>> Could the bushings in the dizzy be shot, allowing the points gap to vary?
>>
>>
>
>>    What was wrong?
>>    73 Midget, stock. Friend's car that was running perfect last summer.
>>    New gas tank. This year it would fire up, run for about 2 seconds
>>    and die.
>>
>>
> So what was it you might ask?
> I also had to know.
> Some DPM (dumb previous mechanic) And a local LBC mechanic that gets paid
> to do this replaced the ground wire inside the dizzy, I saw it and that it
> was new and tight. What I did not see was that it went from dizzy plate
> screw to the other plate screw keeping the advance plate ungrounded.
> This wire should be soldered to the advance plate. It is now and it works
> fine.
> You never know just what you will find and that even though it was *rigged*
> it did work for a few months. My guess is that it was grounding through the
> spring contact under the advance plate every now and then and as soon as the
> plate moved a bit, the ground went away.
>
> Frank
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jul 15 23:45:11 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:45:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A - Party - July 11th, 2010
In-Reply-To: <362667.81304.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <362667.81304.qm@web38904.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4QAr3hwsq76EtrKKVAlxlWj_ZJCc12AYiHcH7@mail.gmail.com>

Great to hear, your a good friend : )
Linda

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:26 PM, <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Groups,
>
> Sunday i went down to Escondido as planed to take Paul to Dixon Park.
> I drove my 1960 Tourer down PCH to San Clemente -
> Then the 5 freeway through Oceanside to the 78 Freeway to Escondido.
> Even thought it takes longer it is a lot nicer ride..I put ran up over 200
> miles round trip.
>
> A few of the old time Morris people showed up.
> Greg Emmett, Al Castillian, Jim Van Hoven,
> There was one person i did not know who had the Morris Minor Tourer.
> John Felt & family who brought his nice Bugeye Sprite.
> Bob Gardner came to the event even after eye surgery recently.
> Jim Crowder and wife - Many thanks for opening there home to all of use for
> lunch,
> There was two Morris Minors Tourers  and one Bugeye sprite.
> We stayed at the park for a couple of hours socializing - then went to
> Jim's
> house.
> He has a MG midget and MGB roadster.
> We had a great lunch and went on our separate ways.
> It was great day and thanks to the people who attended.
> It was nice meeting the new people and having a fun day for Paul.
>
> Paul was sleeping when i went to get him. He did not remember i was coming.
> It was not one of his best days at first. He seemed better as the day went
> on.
> I know he had a great time - he asked if we could do it again.
>
> Vigil
> So Cal
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 16 05:04:37 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:04:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no Spridget content; just rally
Message-ID: <BD229E5793D74879A2000645CBEC6CB3@spider>

July 15, 2010 8:15 PM EDT 

DENVER (AP) - Colorado authorities say five drivers were ticketed and
another was arrested for speeding during a luxury auto rally from New York
City to Las Vegas. The Colorado State Patrol said it received several
complaints as the Bullrun Live Rally passed through Colorado on Wednesday.
Authorities said the driver who was arrested was going more than 40 mph over
the speed limit of 65 mph near Idaho Springs on Interstate 70. The driver
faces charges of reckless driving and excessive speed.

Trooper Heather Cobler said five other drivers were also ticketed and
several others received warnings. She says several of the cars in the rally
had police scanners.

Former NBA star Dennis Rodman participated in the 2005 rally and was also
ticketed for speeding in Colorado.

From michael at mcassociatesinc.com  Fri Jul 16 07:56:14 2010
From: michael at mcassociatesinc.com (Michael Couch)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:56:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing
Message-ID: <A4A0FB6AF9AE4C28BECFB9B43A63F2E2@MCOUCHOFFICE>

I continue to rapidly wear out rear bearings on my 1960 Bugeye (wire
wheels).  I'd like to replace the bearing hubs.  Does anyone know of a
source for rear hubs for wire wheels?   Winners has a great double bearing
replacement hub but it does not work with wire wheels.  Any other thoughts
on how to solve this problem?

 

Mike Couch

Pittsburgh

BN2 100M

AN2

AN7

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 16 08:38:40 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:38:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS
Message-ID: <SNT124-W508AE701C68BF71A22F739B7BC0@phx.gbl>

NFI and all that.



http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1844039844.html

_________________________________________________________________
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 09:13:28 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 09:13:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing
In-Reply-To: <A4A0FB6AF9AE4C28BECFB9B43A63F2E2@MCOUCHOFFICE>
References: <A4A0FB6AF9AE4C28BECFB9B43A63F2E2@MCOUCHOFFICE>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin0sXdzIDJL4waoftFrf5piuh7Nne95hpPaowAP@mail.gmail.com>

Could something be keeping the diff oil from getting to the beaings?
Like obstruction in tube or diff bent?

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 16 10:30:11 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:30:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing
In-Reply-To: <A4A0FB6AF9AE4C28BECFB9B43A63F2E2@MCOUCHOFFICE>
References: <A4A0FB6AF9AE4C28BECFB9B43A63F2E2@MCOUCHOFFICE>
Message-ID: <201007160930260.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

If the problem is the quality of the bearing, and I've seen some 
questionable product, I suggest using part number 6207-2RS made by 
either Koyo or SKF    The designation 2RS means 2 rubber seals.... it 
is a sealed ball bearing. I recommend removing 1 of the seals (they 
pluck out) and installing the bearing with the open end facing the 
oil supply.

Also, I'm wondering if your axle flange is fully seating? I recall 
there being an issue with wire wheel axle length on Bugeye rear ends. 
Someone around here knows more about that.

         Peter C
==

At 08:56 AM 7/16/2010, Michael Couch wrote:
>I continue to rapidly wear out rear bearings on my 1960 Bugeye (wire
>wheels).  I'd like to replace the bearing hubs.  Does anyone know of a
>source for rear hubs for wire wheels?   Winners has a great double bearing
>replacement hub but it does not work with wire wheels.  Any other thoughts
>on how to solve this problem?
>
>
>
>Mike Couch
>
>Pittsburgh
>
>BN2 100M
>
>AN2
>
>AN7

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Jul 16 11:21:01 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:21:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] hows this for quality workmanship....
Message-ID: <2057720095.79100.1279300861771.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

So i am driving around today in the midget when all of a sudden i hear an odd clank and the car starts to run rough. I pull into a parking space and pop the hood. the outer coverplate for my K&N filters is sitting wedged between the exhaust and the frame of the car. I first thought that I just didn't tighten it when last i checked the carbs but i looked again and the 4 spot welds that hold the assembly to the back plate(the portion that mounts directly to the carbs) is no longer attached to the back plate. Its less than 2 years old! 

So know do i fix this? do I try JB weld, find someone who can tack weld whatever cheap metal this is made from, or return it to K&N? 
I taped back on with scotch tape to get home. 
Ryan 

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 11:37:37 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:37:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS
In-Reply-To: <SNT124-W508AE701C68BF71A22F739B7BC0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT124-W508AE701C68BF71A22F739B7BC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikaUKI25aW5l6psxhJgZ_RxU12-JqnnkhHmBxNY@mail.gmail.com>

At the very least good for parts. Grab it before it's shipped to "Down
Under" ; ) kidding I'm just glad all Sprites are put into service instead of
the crusher ; )
Lin

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Mike Eldred <redscirocco at hotmail.com>wrote:

> NFI and all that.
>
>
>
> http://providence.craigslist.org/cto/1844039844.html
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> Hotmail.
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Jul 16 11:46:13 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:46:13 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing
Message-ID: <51500.71fd769.3971f4e5@aol.com>

Try Tom Colby at Speedwell. Failing that all that's required to modify a  
double bearing hub for wire wheel use is to drill and tap a hole.   Sometimes 
you have to weld up a larger hole in the hub design to do this.
 
69 Sprite on wire wheels and double bearing rear hubs.
 
 
 
In a message dated 16/07/2010 15:50:54 GMT Daylight Time,  
michael at mcassociatesinc.com writes:

I  continue to rapidly wear out rear bearings on my 1960 Bugeye  (wire
wheels).  I'd like to replace the bearing hubs.  Does  anyone know of a
source for rear hubs for wire wheels?   Winners  has a great double bearing
replacement hub but it does not work with wire  wheels.  Any other thoughts
on how to solve this  problem?



Mike Couch

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 12:08:50 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:08:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] hows this for quality workmanship....
In-Reply-To: <2057720095.79100.1279300861771.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <2057720095.79100.1279300861771.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikRtTV4Wkg9X6qwKBo-gwUxwTSQsAvgTVV_eQvI@mail.gmail.com>

Can you take it apart, transpose the mounting hole locations from
bottom to top, drill holes in the top, and run bolts or studs all the
way through with nuts on the top?

I'm going from a mental picture, so I may be way off base.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 12:22:32 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:22:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] hows this for quality workmanship....
In-Reply-To: <2057720095.79100.1279300861771.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <2057720095.79100.1279300861771.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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I am picturing this type of air filter:

http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/albums/Dans_Sprite/P1010022.jpg


If so you could probably take a piece of all thread and put a nut on
each side on the back plate and a nice acorn nut on the front.  Just
ditch the spot welded bits and transpose the hole positions from front
to back.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 16 12:38:45 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:38:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fyi on Tangent auto and parts auction listed for
 Saturday 17 July 2010
In-Reply-To: <D749A803-568B-41F2-9F0F-B2CD16F44BD0@gmail.com>
References: <15FE5C313B164866915F460819E4FDF6@Inspiron>
	<D749A803-568B-41F2-9F0F-B2CD16F44BD0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A69F46E2F3BE49518A012EA74C767329@spider>

NFI etc.

http://corvallis.craigslist.org/pts/1837172118.html

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/1834195410.html

We just got back from the "preview" that was scheduled for Friday 10am-4pm.
ha.  Quonset building was locked tight. 10-12 dusty vehicles outside; if
they weren't missing the motors, they were missing the body panels. You
decide if it is worth your time. 
The deceased 'owner' of this 'collection' lived in the gray area of the
collection scene for 30 years. 'nuf said. . . . bill in corvallis

From cathe125 at suddenlink.net  Fri Jul 16 13:08:24 2010
From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:08:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing
In-Reply-To: <51500.71fd769.3971f4e5@aol.com>
References: <51500.71fd769.3971f4e5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <009301cb251a$43f6b450$cbe41cf0$@net>

Considering that there are LOTS of BE's out there with single bearing hubs
being used without continuous failure I would instead be trying to examine
where/What the actual problem is what is causing it to fail repeatably.
Worn hub , low quality bearing, etc...

Leo


 
 
 
In a message dated 16/07/2010 15:50:54 GMT Daylight Time,
michael at mcassociatesinc.com writes:

I  continue to rapidly wear out rear bearings on my 1960 Bugeye  (wire
wheels).  I'd like to replace the bearing hubs.  Does  anyone know of a
source for rear hubs for wire wheels?   Winners  has a great double bearing
replacement hub but it does not work with wire  wheels.  Any other thoughts
on how to solve this  problem?



Mike Couch
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 13:09:58 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:09:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] hows this for quality workmanship....
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikFXItzs0dRg1N5F1PgFmn9sTVo2zQx0tvIE8Qe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2057720095.79100.1279300861771.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<AANLkTikFXItzs0dRg1N5F1PgFmn9sTVo2zQx0tvIE8Qe@mail.gmail.com>
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Ryan...   What Derf said...   drill holes and bolt the thing together.  Must
be lotsa vibration to cause the original to break the welds.  Also, contact
K&N - bet they'll make it good for you.

Cheers!
Jim

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am picturing this type of air filter:
>
> http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/albums/Dans_Sprite/P1010022.jpg
>
>
> If so you could probably take a piece of all thread and put a nut on
> each side on the back plate and a nice acorn nut on the front.  Just
> ditch the spot welded bits and transpose the hole positions from front
> to back.
> _______________________________________________
>
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Cheers!!
Jim
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Fri Jul 16 14:06:40 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:06:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Customer service agent!!!!
In-Reply-To: <630981115.87662.1279310587218.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1692933728.87834.1279310800711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Customer service manager,

I just got off the phone with one of your customer service representatives (
doral at knfilters.com ) and was thrilled with her support in resolving my issue
with a defective K&N filter housing.B  She was knowledgeable, personable, and
creative in determining what part failed and what I needed to have replaced.B 
With customer support like hers I will continue to use and recommend K&N
filter products to all of my friends and automotive club members.



Thank you for a great product and great support staff.

Ryan Kubanoff

1974 MG Midget

Philadelphia MG club

From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Jul 16 14:09:42 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:09:42 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] hows this for quality workmanship....
References: <2057720095.79100.1279300861771.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0DA3D58BBCA64E80B93F17A04F8B139C@user8634b3d69b>

Whilst I agree with Derf for the practical solution but I would ring K&N and 
play merry hell over the phone to their quality control and demand  an 
immediate replacement couriered to my door.  After that arrives, repair the 
old one either the Derf way or with small taper head bolts and nuts in the 
spot weld areas.  If you do it this way put a spot of super glue on the nuts 
'cause you don't want them being sucked in if they rattle loose.   It's been 
my experience that even a spot welder doesn't repair that sort of job. 
After you have repaired the old one you've got one to replace the new one 
that will fall apart in another 600 days or so!

Guy R Day



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 6:21 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] hows this for quality workmanship....


> So i am driving around today in the midget when all of a sudden i hear an 
> odd clank and the car starts to run rough. I pull into a parking space and 
> pop the hood. the outer coverplate for my K&N filters is sitting wedged 
> between the exhaust and the frame of the car. I first thought that I just 
> didn't tighten it when last i checked the carbs but i looked again and the 
> 4 spot welds that hold the assembly to the back plate(the portion that 
> mounts directly to the carbs) is no longer attached to the back plate. Its 
> less than 2 years old!
>
> So know do i fix this? do I try JB weld, find someone who can tack weld 
> whatever cheap metal this is made from, or return it to K&N?
> I taped back on with scotch tape to get home.
> Ryan
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From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 16 18:29:25 2010
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:29:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust system bugeye
Message-ID: <66E62278-F544-4959-996E-B532C669247E@comcast.net>

I am putting an exhaust on my bugeye that has a 1275cc engine.It has a  
flange that seats but there is a gap between the pieces holding the  
pipe in the manifold.The gap is about 1/16 inch and the bolts are very  
tight.Also the fuel line was running right next to the exhaust.I  
separated the two.Is the muffler supposed to be angled upward at the  
back of the car?

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 19:29:36 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:29:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust system bugeye
In-Reply-To: <66E62278-F544-4959-996E-B532C669247E@comcast.net>
References: <66E62278-F544-4959-996E-B532C669247E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikKnhsHvvy2BDUCRewMjSioe2ZZbDsjhzSfpSr8@mail.gmail.com>

There should be a donut gasket in there.
Brad

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I am putting an exhaust on my bugeye that has a 1275cc engine.It has a
> flange that seats but there is a gap between the pieces holding the pipe in
> the manifold.The gap is about 1/16 inch and the bolts are very tight.Also
> the fuel line was running right next to the exhaust.I separated the two.Is
> the muffler supposed to be angled upward at the back of the car?
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jul 16 19:31:57 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 21:31:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Customer service agent!!!!
In-Reply-To: <1692933728.87834.1279310800711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1692933728.87834.1279310800711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C41080D.8090708@comcast.net>

On 7/16/2010 4:06 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
> Customer service manager,
>
> I just got off the phone with one of your customer service representatives (
> doral at knfilters.com ) and was thrilled with her support

> Thank you for a great product and great support staff.
>

Try THAT with some Major companies that turned to china for their 
manufacturing,.
Nibco Valves that don't shut off right out of the box, Anderson windows 
with chinese junk for hardware that is NOT covered under their warranty 
because a rivet ripping out of a moving arm *may* be wind damage not 
cheap made metal. Oh and the plastic parts that replaced the metal parts 
that used to last for decades but now fail in under a year are NOT 
covered either.
I know a plumber, electrician, and a carpenter that want to see china 
NUKED off the face of the planet. NOTHING, absolutely not a fucking 
thing they make is worth a shit.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Turning gook and hating it.

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Fri Jul 16 20:56:36 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:56:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] wiring harness
Message-ID: <049201cb255b$abf76540$0168010a@mail2world.com>

Well, I pulled the dash this afternoon, but couldn't find what was
shorting out. Put a fuse in and everything worked, and the fuse didn't
blow. So the search continues.

One thing it's been doing since Ive had it - the tach usually takes a
couple of seconds to respond after the car is started, especially when
cold. Any of you 1500 guys seen this? Is my tach dying?


-=Chris
Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Frank Clarici [spritenut at comcast.net]
>Sent: 7/11/2010 8:06:44 PM
>To: cbking at alum.rpi.edu
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wiring harness
>
>On 7/11/2010 9:46 AM, Chris King wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I've got a short somewhere in the dash circuit
>> 1. Patch the 31 year old harness
>> 2. Get a new harness from somewhere like British Wiring.
>> 3. Put in a universal harness like Painless.
>
>Check to see exactly when the fuse blows.
>When you step on the brakes? Then it's the brake light wire or
something 
>in the boot that frayed that wire.
>When the signals go left or right?
>Wipers on?
>Heater blower on?
>Check each item with all the others off until you blow the fuse.
>Most of the time, it's a wire in the trunk that got nicked and is now 
>shorting out.
>If it blows with nothing on as soon as you turn on the key, it's a wire
>from the either the tach or fuel gauge hitting something it shouldn't 
>under the dash.
>-- 
>Frank Clarici
>Toms River, NJ
>Lots of Sprites
>.

From kmwerner at gmail.com  Fri Jul 16 22:27:09 2010
From: kmwerner at gmail.com (Kyle Werner)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 00:27:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] no Spridget content; just rally
In-Reply-To: <BD229E5793D74879A2000645CBEC6CB3@spider>
References: <BD229E5793D74879A2000645CBEC6CB3@spider>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim3uLU0xGA-DQh9Eqr3KVljlzAlygmYryqbz7Fn@mail.gmail.com>

Reminds me of a very similar thing up here in Vermont.

I recently saw 3 lamborghinis, a few ferraris, and a Mercedes SLR drive
through my tiny little town. My jaw dropped as they filled up at our one gas
station and left. Later on the news, I heard about two of the drivers
getting arrested, and the others getting massive speeding tickets for doing
30, 40, and even 50mph above speed limit.

They were doing a cannonball run from mass to montreal.

Heres a link if anybody's interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5i5Ec3-bHg

-Kyle

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 16 23:07:26 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:07:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing
In-Reply-To: <A4A0FB6AF9AE4C28BECFB9B43A63F2E2@MCOUCHOFFICE>
References: <A4A0FB6AF9AE4C28BECFB9B43A63F2E2@MCOUCHOFFICE>
Message-ID: <97DE90217D5240C79819D0F5873A53C0@blackbox2>

First we must ask: "How did the wire wheels get put onto the Bugeye?"

This might help us in the diagnosis of the problem.

Is this an original Healey wire wheel kit?  No?

Is this a later wire wheel axle that has had all its flanges cut off and 1/4
elliptic mountings welded on?  No?

Perhaps this is someone who has pressed the axles in the splined hub and has
forgotten to machine those few splines that pretrude out of the hub after
having those axles pressed?  

You know, those axle splines that will interfere with the axle bearing (and
apply undo pressure) if you don't do something about them?

Yep...There's certainly a lot going on when putting wire wheels on a Bugeye.
They didn't come that way...and the All Mighty doesn't want them that way.


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Couch
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:56 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing

I continue to rapidly wear out rear bearings on my 1960 Bugeye (wire
wheels).  I'd like to replace the bearing hubs.  Does anyone know of a
source for rear hubs for wire wheels?   Winners has a great double bearing
replacement hub but it does not work with wire wheels.  Any other thoughts
on how to solve this problem?

 

Mike Couch

Pittsburgh

BN2 100M

AN2

AN7

From grday at btinternet.com  Sat Jul 17 01:45:25 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:45:25 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Customer service agent!!!!
References: <1692933728.87834.1279310800711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<4C41080D.8090708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <6D1AFC987BBB4372828EFA171987D28F@user8634b3d69b>

Glad you got that of your chest Frank.

Don't forget that Chinese goods are made to the specifications that the 
seller, a US customer and 'manufacturer' wanted.  If they are asked to 
supply crap that is what they supply.  If you want good stuff they can 
supply it but costs more.

At the moment I am using the 4th 'slow close toilet seat' in 3 months with 
the last one taking around 10 days to self destruct.  Hinge parts made of 
cheap, brittle plastic.  They are KALE ones from Turkey.  The shop fitters 
know full well they will be coming back time after time, the salesman sell 
them, the fitters try to change your mind when they see what they have to 
fit.  The importing wholesaler is loosing money on every one.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Clarici" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
Cc: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Club,Philly" 
<Philly_MG_Club at yahoogroups.com>; <tech at knfilters.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Great Customer service agent!!!!


> On 7/16/2010 4:06 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote:
>> Customer service manager,
>>
>> I just got off the phone with one of your customer service 
>> representatives (
>> doral at knfilters.com ) and was thrilled with her support
>
>> Thank you for a great product and great support staff.
>>
>
> Try THAT with some Major companies that turned to china for their 
> manufacturing,.
> Nibco Valves that don't shut off right out of the box, Anderson windows 
> with chinese junk for hardware that is NOT covered under their warranty 
> because a rivet ripping out of a moving arm *may* be wind damage not cheap 
> made metal. Oh and the plastic parts that replaced the metal parts that 
> used to last for decades but now fail in under a year are NOT covered 
> either.
> I know a plumber, electrician, and a carpenter that want to see china 
> NUKED off the face of the planet. NOTHING, absolutely not a fucking thing 
> they make is worth a shit.
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Turning gook and hating it.
> _______________________________________________
>
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jul 17 04:46:05 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:46:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Customer service agent!!!!
In-Reply-To: <6D1AFC987BBB4372828EFA171987D28F@user8634b3d69b>
References: <1692933728.87834.1279310800711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<4C41080D.8090708@comcast.net>
	<6D1AFC987BBB4372828EFA171987D28F@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <4C4189ED.7020201@comcast.net>

On 7/17/2010 3:45 AM, Guy R Day wrote:
> Glad you got that of your chest Frank.
>
> Don't forget that Chinese goods are made to the specifications that the
> seller, a US customer and 'manufacturer' wanted.

Do the sellers of children's toys specify lead paint in all chinese made 
toys?
What is specified and what they do behind the seller's back are 2 very 
different things.
Having just had a new hose bib installed on a job by a plumber only to 
watch it not shut off and it is not just an adjustment, the chinese 
metal guts were broken inside the valve.
So who pays the plumber again for having to pick up a new valve and HOPE 
it works, take out the 1st defective valve and install a new on?
Certainly not the MF chinks!

Who will pay me for repairing a window that is 2 years old because the 
MF slopes can't do what they are told?
I have to eat it because Anderson windows quality went right to china.
Oh and I told them so.


-- 
Frank Clarici
NUKE EM

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Jul 17 05:46:03 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 07:46:03 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing
Message-ID: <32492.173f9f84.3972f1fb@aol.com>

Ever bought new wheel bearings and found they are not as good as the old  
ones you were changing because they had been on the car for every and had a  
little play?
 
In a message dated 16/07/2010 21:04:25 GMT Daylight Time,  
cathe125 at suddenlink.net writes:

low  quality bearing

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Jul 17 07:09:55 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 09:09:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Great Customer service agent!!!!
In-Reply-To: <6D1AFC987BBB4372828EFA171987D28F@user8634b3d69b>
References: <1692933728.87834.1279310800711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<4C41080D.8090708@comcast.net>
	<6D1AFC987BBB4372828EFA171987D28F@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <EBDE291661F248159E9B61C3C5C6A67B@Home>

> Don't forget that Chinese goods are made to the specifications that the 
> seller, a US customer and 'manufacturer' wanted.  If they are asked to 
> supply crap that is what they supply.

I continue to maintain that the only way to stop this is to keep returning 
the crap until it becomes more expensive for them to replace it that to 
improve the quality.  It is not only the expense of the goods, themselves, 
but also the bad PR and loss of customers (maybe to someone else selling 
crap), which can add up pretty quickly.

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From bkitterer at me.com  Sat Jul 17 11:48:42 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 10:48:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing
In-Reply-To: <97DE90217D5240C79819D0F5873A53C0@blackbox2>
References: <A4A0FB6AF9AE4C28BECFB9B43A63F2E2@MCOUCHOFFICE>
	<97DE90217D5240C79819D0F5873A53C0@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <DAA2AE41-F6E9-444F-8C4C-6DC2DD95238B@me.com>

Hello Mike,

I have been running wire wheels on my bugeye since 1968 and have only once had a problem similar to yours and that was just a few years ago.  First this is how my car is set up so you can determine how much of these comments will apply to you.  I am useing a wire wheel banjo from a Mk I Midget.  As discussed here before the wire wheel banjo and axles are an inch shorter than for disc wheels. My differential, axles, hubs, brakes and wheels are from a 1967 Mk IV.

A few years ago the rear seals were leaking regardless of what I did.   Then I found that the rear wheels wobbled at the hub - jack the car up, grab the top and bottom of the wheel and see if there is any movement.  This turned out to be the bearings.  In your hand I see the inner and outer race wobble - - bad bearing.  I was surprised how many new bearings had the same problem, I think I ended up with NSK bearings but do not have my records here.  This did not solve the problem however.  The wobbling bearings had made the inside of the hub out of round by about 0.005 of an inch.  I found new hubs at Austin Healey Spares.  http://www.ahspares.co.uk/   New hubs and bearings solved the problems.  Also I use a bearing press to remove and install bearings.

Hope this helps

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

> 
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Couch
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:56 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Rear Hub Bearing
> 
> I continue to rapidly wear out rear bearings on my 1960 Bugeye (wire
> wheels).  I'd like to replace the bearing hubs.  Does anyone know of a
> source for rear hubs for wire wheels?   Winners has a great double bearing
> replacement hub but it does not work with wire wheels.  Any other thoughts
> on how to solve this problem?
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Couch
> 
> Pittsburgh
> 
> BN2 100M
> 
> AN2
> 
> AN7

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 17 14:04:20 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:04:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
Message-ID: <AANLkTil8HH6AhE4Axz4r4saVyIBEU16fv7ZyX41YWywv@mail.gmail.com>

Frank,


My brother in law who is an excellent guitar player. . matter of fact he
played in recording studios for extra income while he was in college and
once worked with the renown Nelson Riddle. .   suffice to say he has an
"ear."  He was on CBS TV years ago and has a very impressive "resume" in
terms of who he has played with.

So he goes into Guitar Center to buy an acoustic guitar.   He tells the
sales guy that he wants to sit in a chair and keep his eyes closed so that
he will not be swayed by the name of the guitars that he is testing. .  such
as the high dollar guitars like Taylor or Martin. .  he just wants the
"tone" that he is looking for.

A few hours later he walks out of the store with a Parkwood.  He paid
$900.0. .  however his pockets were full and he was ready to pay up to 4k or
more if need be.

He has no idea where the thing was made. .  and neither did I.  I guess he
didn't care.  When he found the tone he was after, that was all that
mattered.

When I saw the guitar I was blown away by the quality construction. .
perfect in every way and the selection of woods was also top notch.  . not
to mention the sound of the thing which rivals any Taylor or Martin that I
have ever played or heard. . . guitars costing thousands more.

Inside the cavity of the guitar where they put the manufacturing info. .  I
read "Made in China."  I nearly fell out of my seat . . after which I
further studied the construction trying to find a reason as to why it was
made in China? . .  But nothing came up other than a top notch constructed
instrument.

Now a few years later the guitar continues to hold its intonation, stays in
tune, no lifting of the bridge, etc etc.  The neck and the fret work is top
notch, as it came to him, polished and perfect.

So my father in law goes to China to have some electronic stuff made for his
business and when he gets over there (he has been a few times). .  they ask
him. .  "What level of quality do you want us to build too"?

Seems that they were offering three levels of quality with the highest level
the one that they would prefer to build too . . and of course the lower
quality being the least expensive.

My take is that they might in some cases be able build to a high quality. .
if said quality is ordered.  The problem might lie in the area of Americans
who go over there and order to the lowest quality to turn a fast buck?

With that said I am in no way pro Chinese regarding all the stuff that they
make. . . I would rather see these jobs come back to America.   And
personally, no matter how good the deal in terms of cost. .  nor how well
made the instrument.  . you will only catch me buying and playing American
made guitars.  I guess I have a hangup about it. .  but everything I will
spend money on must be from the US (new cars included). .  plus with music
gear the resale value holds as well.   (One exception . .  I have had my
share of Marshall amps made in the UK)!

Kirk
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 17 14:48:27 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:48:27 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil8HH6AhE4Axz4r4saVyIBEU16fv7ZyX41YWywv@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8HH6AhE4Axz4r4saVyIBEU16fv7ZyX41YWywv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>

The Chinese can and do make excellent stuff.  They will build you a
Space Shuttle if you have enough money.
The problem is the Importers.  The Importers go to China and ask for
stuff made to their specs.  They import the stuff and sell it.  If
they asked for better stuff, they would get better stuff, but, it
would cost more.
The Chinese aren't importing this stuff.  Harbor Freight isn't a
Chinese company.  They are a privately held American company.  Someone
at Harbor Freight asks for and gets exactly what they want from the
Chinese.  To me it defies the laws of economics that they can sell a
jack or some other tool for less than it would cost to buy the steel
to make the tool.


I have an old Yamaha guitar that is one of those guitars.  Before I
got it a guy gigged with it for a living for almost a decade.  My
friend got it and his daughter sat on it and cracked the neck.  I
traded for it, fixed it, and still have it.  Everyone who knows
guitars and plays it has something to say about how nice it plays.  It
wasn't the most expensive and has certainly had a lot of use but it is
just one of those sweet sounding, sweet playing guitars, even years
after I glued the neck back together.

Before China started making junk for export Japan was doing it.  Now
Japan makes high quality stuff.  China CAN make high quality stuff,
but someone has to order and pay for it.

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 17 15:00:21 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:00:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
Message-ID: <817902.20307.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Cut or eliminate our ridiculous corporate tax rate and watch the jobs come 
back!! Skip J. BE 39170

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 17 15:41:10 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:41:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8HH6AhE4Axz4r4saVyIBEU16fv7ZyX41YWywv@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>
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Derf,


Interesting info.  . thanks for sending.

Just to mention. .   Japanese guitars are indeed a different thing.  During
the 70's on into the early 80's they built some of the best guitars out
there.  . and many of the guitars built during that era are still sought
after today.

In terms of the woods used, the feel and  playability. .  . I hold the
quality of a Burny or a Tokai as well as a Yamaha from the early 80's as a
better guitar than their American counter parts such as Gibson and Fender.

New guitars made in Japan are also highly respected (Steve Vai plays a
Japanese electric as well as several other famous guitar players).

Japanese guitars from the 70's such as the Electra's are still sought after
as vintage instruments of high quality.

Fender turned to Japan for the manufacture of their guitars just after the
Fender employees bought back the name of the company, circa 1980..  They
only got the name "Fender" and as such they left the tooling in Fullerton
Ca.

It was said that when the Fender execs got to Japan and played the Japanese
type Fender Strats that one of the guys nearly came to tears over the
quality they found as well as the feel and playability.  The Fender guys
also worried that they would never be able to build a Fender in America to
the same standard.  Personally,  I am not too certain that Fender America in
Corona Ca. has ever risen to the same feel and playability as found in an
early 1980's Japanese guitars..  . such guitars as the Tokai "Springy Sound"
Stratocaster copy.

Your Yamaha may be the same model that was played by Carlos Santana during
his early days?

If you can send a pic of it, I would love to see it.

Thanks,

Kirk

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 1:48 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Chinese can and do make excellent stuff.  They will build you a
> Space Shuttle if you have enough money.
> The problem is the Importers.  The Importers go to China and ask for
> stuff made to their specs.  They import the stuff and sell it.  If
> they asked for better stuff, they would get better stuff, but, it
> would cost more.
> The Chinese aren't importing this stuff.  Harbor Freight isn't a
> Chinese company.  They are a privately held American company.  Someone
> at Harbor Freight asks for and gets exactly what they want from the
> Chinese.  To me it defies the laws of economics that they can sell a
> jack or some other tool for less than it would cost to buy the steel
> to make the tool.
>
>
> I have an old Yamaha guitar that is one of those guitars.  Before I
> got it a guy gigged with it for a living for almost a decade.  My
> friend got it and his daughter sat on it and cracked the neck.  I
> traded for it, fixed it, and still have it.  Everyone who knows
> guitars and plays it has something to say about how nice it plays.  It
> wasn't the most expensive and has certainly had a lot of use but it is
> just one of those sweet sounding, sweet playing guitars, even years
> after I glued the neck back together.
>
> Before China started making junk for export Japan was doing it.  Now
> Japan makes high quality stuff.  China CAN make high quality stuff,
> but someone has to order and pay for it.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Jul 17 16:12:01 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:12:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C86778C1.19389%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I have an old Yamaha guitar that is one of those guitars.
Are you sure you're not confusing China with Taiwan? There's a big
difference.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul 17 17:32:45 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:32:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <817902.20307.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <817902.20307.qm@web46408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil4XM350kiv6YBBb3UUvflL4Gua7yaG_1e9O4UX@mail.gmail.com>

Amen.  How do we always manage to shoot ourselves in the foot?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Skip Jackson <jackson.skip at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Cut or eliminate our ridiculous corporate tax rate and watch the jobs come
> back!! Skip J. BE 39170

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 17 17:33:06 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:33:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <C86778C1.19389%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>
	<C86778C1.19389%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinEij_GDkdEtKx6gTKP6iPvM00S4pYLNSzEASOi@mail.gmail.com>

Billy. .

You are refering to the Yamaha line that was built in Taiwan  (I have read
that the factory has since moved).

They made a heck of a guitar for the money.  . the Pacifica was a very well
made guitar for the money.

I do understand that the early Yamaha's were actually made in Japan?

Kirk

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > I have an old Yamaha guitar that is one of those guitars.
> Are you sure you're not confusing China with Taiwan? There's a big
> difference.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul 17 17:55:12 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:55:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <C86778C1.19389%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>
	<C86778C1.19389%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim1AzsSdf-CRnaH1hrtWmIr_fvkTKrXCeBd-tZt@mail.gmail.com>

Billy has a point here.  I have bought several banjo necks and resonators
from a Taiwanese maker and they are incredibly beautiful top quality banjo
parts. The fret board inlays are breath taking vine patterns in Indian
rosewood. The necks are single laminate curly maple and the heels are
beautifully carved. I put a 5 string neck on an old Gibson RB100 pot I had
laying around and it plays incredibly well. The neck is easier to play than
is my 1937 RB75!!

Now....    I recently built up a nice violin using a beautifully inlaid
finger board and other ebony parts also done by my guy in Taiwan. A
wonderful instrument that will knock your eyes out. The bad news is that I
got a set of 4 fine tuners from China because they were the only ones in a
gold finish to match the trim on the instrument. These are absolute crap
even though they cost more than Stewart McDonald parts!!  The metal they are
made of is crap. They bend and will not stay in place to hold tuning. I went
back to European made fine tuners.

What about Korean?  About 10 years ago, I bought a cheap Korean made F style
mandolin. It plays well and has given me good service. Plenty of tone and
volume. I'm impressed with it.

My $0.02 and probably worth as much.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > I have an old Yamaha guitar that is one of those guitars.
> Are you sure you're not confusing China with Taiwan? There's a big
> difference.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 17 19:01:17 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:01:17 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilSfiDTQmS2pfw9394LQ1kJ34GLDAzXsWsPNVGf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTil8HH6AhE4Axz4r4saVyIBEU16fv7ZyX41YWywv@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilSfiDTQmS2pfw9394LQ1kJ34GLDAzXsWsPNVGf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinyWMj_eqDlnbTpj145FfhR5OjP4BuXxcJfI2nt@mail.gmail.com>

Billy is correct, the Yamaha I have is an FG-160-1BK Special Edition
(Black) and was made in Taiwan.  It has a cheesy built in pickup.  The
pickup works, but sounds terrible.  I dunno if it was original or not.

I also had a 80s Japanese Ibanez Road Star II strat copy that I bought
cheap in the 80s(around $100 used with hard case) and made a new pick
guard for and installed some EMG active pickups that I got cheap.  I
had a Maple neck, which I prefer, and plays pretty well.  I hadn't
played it in a while and was going to trade it recently.  My son
freaked out and said he wanted it bad.  I asked why he never played it
and he said he thought it was too nice and he didn't want to risk
damaging it.  I told him it wasn't expensive or sentimental and if
would play it he could keep it.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 18 09:25:24 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:25:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Anyone go to the KIC at Road America yesterday and see the Fiat engined Speedwell Sprite? End of LBC content...

I have closely dealt with China as a manufacturer on a somewhat small basis (I have never sent one job to China, I will say). It does not matter what you specify - you go to China because you mass produce. When you mass produce, you cannot inspect every unit, no matter how sophisticated your inspection equipment. You have to do lot testing. This means you operate under the assumption of 6 sigma process control, and if 1 is good, they're all good. It doesn't always (ever?) work out. You can get hurt big time (the same thing can happen in Detroit or Tokyo, by the way...read the newspapers). Something like a one-off or limited volume run where you can watch closely and control quality (insert guitar here), you actually pull off good quality, but without the economic benefit. 

Companies (some real big ones) are starting to pull out of China because of cost and quality. Cost is rising because the workers starting to get a whiff of capitalism and demanding higher pay. Also the government is no longer valuing their currency to the value of a dollar. China's political stability is risky, which makes it a tough place to consider for long term investment in currencies. Our debt (thank you Barry O for really putting it into the stratosphere) endangers the dollar as being used as the standard in International trade deals, but it still is - NOT the Yuan. Does this mean the jobs are coming back to the US? A few, yes. Most, not yet. The economic balance is so delicate it is incredible, or it would be very simple to just provide economic incentive to do business here. I could get very inappropriately political right now, but we need an administration that actually likes US businesses, especially small entrepreneurial ones, and uses smart
 enough guys to figure out that balance. They're out there, but I digress.

China is starting to outsource to Vietnam and Laos to address the cost issue. Very complex stuff that can't get solved in an email. 

Too hot to LBC, and I really need to finish the last hour of prep for Joliet race next weekend - 

Ron

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jul 18 09:56:53 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:56:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>,
	<384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C432445.3190.6DC775@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Had a cold front move in here during the night...
It's only going to be around 88*F for a high today..

Now where did I out my BVD's........................

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 18 Jul 2010 at 8:25, Ron Soave wrote:
>>Too hot to LBC, and I really need to finish the last hour of
>> prep for Joliet race next weekend - 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 10:31:01 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:31:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <4C432445.3190.6DC775@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>
	<384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C432445.3190.6DC775@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikUIYSqGCScg5x8v9D8_CuAEVS8XKYsggzVHzcf@mail.gmail.com>

Nothin' personal, Dave.  But mention of 88F at the moment is in poor taste.
102F here today.  My AC is already complaining....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> Had a cold front move in here during the night...
> It's only going to be around 88*F for a high today..
>
> Now where did I out my BVD's........................
>
> --
> Dave G.  KK7SS
> DN06ig
> '65 Sprite - work in progress
> '76 Midget - nearly ready
>
>
> On 18 Jul 2010 at 8:25, Ron Soave wrote:
> >>Too hot to LBC, and I really need to finish the last hour of
> >> prep for Joliet race next weekend -

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jul 18 11:11:17 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:11:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUIYSqGCScg5x8v9D8_CuAEVS8XKYsggzVHzcf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4C432445.3190.6DC775@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<AANLkTikUIYSqGCScg5x8v9D8_CuAEVS8XKYsggzVHzcf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C4335B5.3505.B1E3FB@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Hi Jim,

Understood only too well...
After a week of 100+,  today will be a nice change....
But we'll be back in the 100+ region next week..
Ah well....

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 18 Jul 2010 at 11:31, Jim Johnson wrote:

Nothin' personal, Dave.  But mention of 88F at the moment is in poor 
taste.
102F here today.  My AC is already complaining...

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 18 11:25:18 2010
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 10:25:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUIYSqGCScg5x8v9D8_CuAEVS8XKYsggzVHzcf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>,
	<384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<4C432445.3190.6DC775@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<AANLkTikUIYSqGCScg5x8v9D8_CuAEVS8XKYsggzVHzcf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W482EB8EE8129084D239B04CABE0@phx.gbl>

It's almost 58 (outside) right now in Seattle and cloudy, should bet up to
almost 70 this afternoon. I'll take some of that 102 if you can send it!!Bill

> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:31:01 -0500
> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
> To: kk7ss at verizon.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
>
> Nothin' personal, Dave.  But mention of 88F at the moment is in poor taste.
> 102F here today.  My AC is already complaining....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Had a cold front move in here during the night...
> > It's only going to be around 88*F for a high today..
> >
> > Now where did I out my BVD's........................
> >
> > --
> > Dave G.  KK7SS
> > DN06ig
> > '65 Sprite - work in progress
> > '76 Midget - nearly ready
> >
> >
> > On 18 Jul 2010 at 8:25, Ron Soave wrote:
> > >>Too hot to LBC, and I really need to finish the last hour of
> > >> prep for Joliet race next weekend -
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 18 13:42:42 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:42:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W482EB8EE8129084D239B04CABE0@phx.gbl>
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On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Bill Masquelier
<billmasq at hotmail.com>wrote:

> It's almost 58 (outside) right now in Seattle and cloudy, should bet up to
> almost 70 this afternoon.
>

Braggart!!

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From franks97 at verizon.net  Sun Jul 18 16:25:13 2010
From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:25:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tail Light Assembly
Message-ID: <C868CD59.A16A%franks97@verizon.net>

At the recent Portland Historic Auto Races a visiting Mini driver took a bit
of an aggressive line and tagged me in the right rear quarter panel just in
from of the tail light. The lens and trim ring are fine but the tab that
holds the lens on snapped off and the bracket was bent. It looks like Mo$$
etc. only sell the piece I need as part of a complete tail light package.
Does anyone on the list have the 3bracket2  piece that fits on the body work
for a reasonable price?

You can see the Mini to Sprite love tap on You Tube:
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-985wCmbPfQ>

The Stewards sent him home. It probably didn9t help that he told them he hit
me in the passenger door. Sorry to see him have to pack up but those are the
rules for HMSA.

Please contact me off list if you have the part.

Thanks!
--
David Franks
franks97 at verizon.net
67 AH Sprite #82 Blue

From franks97 at verizon.net  Sun Jul 18 16:38:59 2010
From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:38:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [Vintage-race] Tail Light Assembly
In-Reply-To: <C868CD59.A16A%franks97@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C868D093.A16E%franks97@verizon.net>

Sorry, I forgot to mention I have a 1967 Sprite.


On 7/18/10 3:25 PM, "David Franks" <franks97 at verizon.net> wrote:

> At the recent Portland Historic Auto Races a visiting Mini driver took a bit
> of an aggressive line and tagged me in the right rear quarter panel just in
> from of the tail light. The lens and trim ring are fine but the tab that
> holds the lens on snapped off and the bracket was bent. It looks like Mo$$
> etc. only sell the piece I need as part of a complete tail light package.
> Does anyone on the list have the 3bracket2  piece that fits on the body work
> for a reasonable price?
> 
> You can see the Mini to Sprite love tap on You Tube:
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-985wCmbPfQ>
> 
> The Stewards sent him home. It probably didn9t help that he told them he hit
> me in the passenger door. Sorry to see him have to pack up but those are the
> rules for HMSA.
> 
> Please contact me off list if you have the part.
> 
> Thanks!
> --
> David Franks
> franks97 at verizon.net
> 67 AH Sprite #82 Blue
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From conen at bellsouth.net  Sun Jul 18 17:27:53 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:27:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers  (guitars)
Message-ID: <676033.81804.qm@web180210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

  I know nothing about guitars, but, I just looked at the old Yamaha acoustic Mom bought (used) back in the '70s..."Made in Taiwan", model G-50-A.  Pretty! (to me. ;-))
 Ed in NC :-)

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sun Jul 18 17:39:06 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:39:06 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikUIYSqGCScg5x8v9D8_CuAEVS8XKYsggzVHzcf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100718233906.3RXZA.155505.root@hrndva-web20-z02>

92 here while driving the parts pile around.  I drove it to a Ford car show down the street.  Ick but I have a soft spot for early Falcons and T Birds.  No GT 40s this year.  Over a 100 on the blacktop.

Curious...Is there any reason why they never put vents in the footwells on the Sprites/MGs?

---- Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Nothin' personal, Dave.  But mention of 88F at the moment is in poor taste.
> 102F here today.  My AC is already complaining....
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 18 18:07:17 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:07:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <20100718233906.3RXZA.155505.root@hrndva-web20-z02>
References: <AANLkTikUIYSqGCScg5x8v9D8_CuAEVS8XKYsggzVHzcf@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100718233906.3RXZA.155505.root@hrndva-web20-z02>
Message-ID: <5ABFBF782C4F4A17820CCB73406BE6B5@spider>

Doesn't get that hot in England.

=======================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cmanuel at wi.rr.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:39 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers

. . . 

Curious...Is there any reason why they never put vents in the footwells on
the Sprites/MGs?

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jul 18 18:38:42 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 17:38:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <5ABFBF782C4F4A17820CCB73406BE6B5@spider>
References: <AANLkTikUIYSqGCScg5x8v9D8_CuAEVS8XKYsggzVHzcf@mail.gmail.com>,
	<20100718233906.3RXZA.155505.root@hrndva-web20-z02>,
	<5ABFBF782C4F4A17820CCB73406BE6B5@spider>
Message-ID: <4C439E92.2657.24B8467@kk7ss.verizon.net>

My 1960 Jag MK IX had flap-vents in the footwell that were fed from the 
air intake just in front of the windshield....
Sun roof was standard,

But the defrost ability was about the same as a Spridget  i.e. almost 
non-existant  ;-(

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 18 Jul 2010 at 17:07, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:

Doesn't get that hot in England.

=======================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 
cmanuel at wi.rr.com
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 4:39 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers

. . . 

Curious...Is there any reason why they never put vents in the footwells 
on
the Sprites/MGs?

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jul 18 21:50:35 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 22:50:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <54308.108.101.134.47.1279511435.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

> Anyone go to the KIC at Road America yesterday and see the Fiat engined
> Speedwell Sprite? End of LBC content...


If it was red, it belongs to Richard Rooks of Wisconsin.  It's a factory
setup and very original.

I didn't make it either as it was too hot and we were helping with a
friend's elderly mother.  They had a tornado east of the track an high
winds go through the track area.  Haven't heard any firsthand reports yet.

Dave W.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul 19 03:40:41 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 05:40:41 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
Message-ID: <8bbf9.223e45cc.39757799@aol.com>

And featured in a Spridget tuning book...
 
In a message dated 19/07/2010 04:57:08 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net  
writes:

If it  was red, it belongs to Richard Rooks of Wisconsin.  It's a  factory
setup and very original.

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Jul 19 08:24:38 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:24:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fiat engined Speedwell
In-Reply-To: <8bbf9.223e45cc.39757799@aol.com>
References: <8bbf9.223e45cc.39757799@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C446026.3050904@wi.net>

YUP!  Page 129-130. 

FWIW, here's an article from a past Hemming's Sports and Exotic Car. 

http://www.wihealeyclub.org/files/Download/SE52_024-028_Speedwell_Sprite%5B1%5D.pdf

He had it at Rick Mose's Sprite 50th in PA.

Dave W.
59 :{)
59 MGA 1500


WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> And featured in a Spridget tuning book...
>  
> In a message dated 19/07/2010 04:57:08 GMT Daylight Time, 
> dwoerpel at wi.net writes:
>
>     If it was red, it belongs to Richard Rooks of Wisconsin.  It's a
>     factory
>     setup and very original.

From pchast at francomm.com  Mon Jul 19 08:59:43 2010
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:59:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car for sail sighting
Message-ID: <op.vf3ikdpbsjevdj@pete200>

Hi,

This morning there was a red split bumper midget along side the road
with a for sale sign on it. In Coxsackie, NY.... I stopped to look
and its rough with rust under the paint on the hood, driver's side
pillar, and the bottom of both front quarter panels. Otherwise it
looks complete.......

Normal disclaimer!
\

Pete,
Athens, NY



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From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jul 19 09:11:03 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:11:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car for sail sighting
In-Reply-To: <op.vf3ikdpbsjevdj@pete200>
References: <op.vf3ikdpbsjevdj@pete200>
Message-ID: <201007190811164.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Heck, I'd buy it just to have the Bill of Sale with that town on it!

         ED

--
At 09:59 AM 7/19/2010, Pete Chast wrote:
>Hi,
>
>This morning there was a red split bumper midget along side the road
>with a for sale sign on it. In Coxsackie, NY.... I stopped to look
>and its rough with rust under the paint on the hood, driver's side
>pillar, and the bottom of both front quarter panels. Otherwise it
>looks complete.......
>
>Normal disclaimer!
>\
>
>Pete,
>Athens, NY

From pchast at francomm.com  Mon Jul 19 09:21:48 2010
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:21:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car for sail sighting
In-Reply-To: <201007190811164.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <op.vf3ikdpbsjevdj@pete200>
	<201007190811164.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <op.vf3jmmx5sjevdj@pete200>

I can get the phone number for you.........



On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:11:03 -0400, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>  
wrote:

>
> Heck, I'd buy it just to have the Bill of Sale with that town on it!
>
>          ED
>
> --
> At 09:59 AM 7/19/2010, Pete Chast wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This morning there was a red split bumper midget along side the road
>> with a for sale sign on it. In Coxsackie, NY.... I stopped to look
>> and its rough with rust under the paint on the hood, driver's side
>> pillar, and the bottom of both front quarter panels. Otherwise it
>> looks complete.......
>>
>> Normal disclaimer!
>> \
>>
>> Pete,
>> Athens, NY
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 10:40:15 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:40:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Korea
Message-ID: <AANLkTimslr4ZO8cyjdYsKXv8en5XFXaxwqeWynyO0Eu8@mail.gmail.com>

Korea is the largest guitar manufacturer in the world.  Many American
manufactures have lines that are built there.

Paul Reed Smith has an SE line that is made in Korea. .  and they are very
well made guitars which also have received praise from the guitar rags.

Check out the video.  .

They don't have a carved top. . non locking tuners, etc. .   flat top like a
Strat to help control costs.  But fantastic guitars as indicated in the
review.  Paul Riorio (sp) expresses his enthusiasm for the SE's (and this
guy plays a lot of different guitars for Guitar World).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hmDn7hL57s

Just an FYI regarding. .

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 10:44:03 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 09:44:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Billy Zoom
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLW0ellB0O5QExxtiJE9hLWjQFUh5eSFlP3k8L@mail.gmail.com>

Anytime I write something regarding the guitar world I wait for Billy to
chime in. .  he always hits the nail on the head.

Props to the man . . I don't know anyone who is as much a walking
encyclopedia when it comes to guitars and amps. .  cars as well. .

(But I still like my Pertronix inside my Mallory Dual point as a better way
to go than points)!

Just to mention!

Kirk

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Mon Jul 19 10:46:56 2010
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (cshelden)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:46:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Any lister in area of Pine Bluff Ark ?
Message-ID: <AANLkTin6XwGyzNaSX8o9t+f46UFTYBkoc8b8fg+f2Bvr@mail.gmail.com>

Buddy saw a midget for sale on side of road in Pine Bluff, Arkansas.  Said
he should have gone back as he may have been interested.  Any listers in the
area?

thanks,
Charlie
OKC,OK

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jul 19 11:13:06 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:13:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Korea
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimslr4ZO8cyjdYsKXv8en5XFXaxwqeWynyO0Eu8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C869D5B2.28D9D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Interesting. Is that Korean "music" that he's making with it?

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 11:25:35 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:25:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Korea
In-Reply-To: <C869D5B2.28D9D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTimslr4ZO8cyjdYsKXv8en5XFXaxwqeWynyO0Eu8@mail.gmail.com>
	<C869D5B2.28D9D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTillqU76613Ls18aROadb9aiAY1IU9aL72a3RPNV@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah. . .



On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>wrote:

> Interesting. Is that Korean "music" that he's making with it?

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 12:48:30 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 11:48:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "Love Tap" Video
Message-ID: <AANLkTin5FXMoMYDoaG72hTQRG72igcF5wo-DN4-kNXs2@mail.gmail.com>

Nice video (other than for the tap you took).

I used to work up in Oregon years ago.  I managed a sales team over the
Western 11 States and and such I was in Oregon a couple times a month.

I remember one particular month of May, on the last day of the month, where
my rep told me that it had rained every day except for one day.

I still recall seeing golfers playing in the rain with the water streaming
off the back of their golf clubs when they would hit the ball. Rooster tails
coming off the back of their clubs!

My rep told me that the golfers, some of them, simply adapt to the weather.


How often do you get dry weather to race in?  And with that. .  I would
guess that a lot of racing is done in the rain?

My heavy rain calculation for the area might have been more tied to the
times I was there. . .

Kirk
59 1275

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jul 19 14:34:18 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:34:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Parts pickup/dropoff...
Message-ID: <5D3C2ACD-3A56-4F56-9E14-D3DEF0683AB6@comcast.net>

I'm heading from Shreveport, LA to Aurora, OH leaving tomorrow evening  
(Or EARLY Wednesday)  If you need transport of parts lemme know!

Lester

Going through Little Rock, Memphis, Nashville, Bowling Green,  
Louisville, Cincinnati, Columbus, Akron.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Jul 19 16:38:31 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:38:31 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fiat engined Speedwell
Message-ID: <bb1a3.8215c49.39762de7@aol.com>

OLD edition.  Now page 149 in colour.
 
In a message dated 19/07/2010 15:30:47 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net  
writes:

YUP!  Page 129-130. 

FWIW, here's an article from a  past Hemming's Sports and Exotic Car.  

http
://www.wihealeyclub.org/files/Download/SE52_024-028_Speedwell_Sprite%5B1%5D.pdf

He  had it at Rick Mose's Sprite 50th in PA.

Dave W.
59 :{)
59 MGA  1500


WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> And featured in a  Spridget tuning book...
>  
> In a message dated 19/07/2010  04:57:08 GMT Daylight Time, 
> dwoerpel at wi.net  writes:
>
>     If it was red, it belongs to  Richard Rooks of Wisconsin.  It's a
>      factory
>     setup and very  original.

From Chris.Rae at microsoft.com  Mon Jul 19 17:16:56 2010
From: Chris.Rae at microsoft.com (Chris Rae)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:16:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] [Not Spridget!] Need a roll cage in WA in a bit of a
	hurry
Message-ID: <BFC3A1B1D7267249A79D2CD7655DEE2E343DE881@DF-M14-02.exchange.corp.microsoft.com>

Hi chaps - I need to put a roll cage in a Cadillac De Ville for the 24h of
Lemons race on August 8th. Do any of you happen to know a cage builder (or
anyone who might know the right person)? Any help very much appreciated - we
did have one lined up but he's balked at the timescale.

Sorry for the lack of Spridgetness but I'm getting a bit desperate!

Chris

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jul 19 18:28:59 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:28:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fiat engined Speedwell
In-Reply-To: <bb1a3.8215c49.39762de7@aol.com>
References: <bb1a3.8215c49.39762de7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <42BACCF416B24D68A7B38420F1541447@blackbox2>

Photos of Richard's car at the 50th can be found here:

http://s295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/jubilee/?start=14
0

or 

http://tinyurl.com/2dru5un


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 6:39 PM
To: dwoerpel at wi.net; soavero at yahoo.com; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fiat engined Speedwell

OLD edition.  Now page 149 in colour.
 
In a message dated 19/07/2010 15:30:47 GMT Daylight Time, dwoerpel at wi.net  
writes:

YUP!  Page 129-130. 

FWIW, here's an article from a  past Hemming's Sports and Exotic Car.  

http
://www.wihealeyclub.org/files/Download/SE52_024-028_Speedwell_Sprite%5B1%5D.
pdf

He  had it at Rick Mose's Sprite 50th in PA.

Dave W.
59 :{)
59 MGA  1500


WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> And featured in a  Spridget tuning book...
>  
> In a message dated 19/07/2010  04:57:08 GMT Daylight Time, 
> dwoerpel at wi.net  writes:
>
>     If it was red, it belongs to  Richard Rooks of Wisconsin.  It's a
>      factory
>     setup and very  original.
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul 19 18:33:53 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:33:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no Spridget or common sense content
Message-ID: <4DDAD996D3624A5CB321537C59122BBE@spider>

July 19, 2010 7:34 PM EDT 

SEDRO-WOOLLEY, Wash. (AP) - Two men who were apparently trying to take an
unusual thrill ride were seriously injured in an explosion at a shop that
builds and services race cars in Washington state.

Fire Chief Dean Klinger told the Skagit Valley Herald the men put about four
gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the parking lot Sunday night,
sat on top and lit it for a "barrel ride."

Klinger says, "Apparently it was supposed to slide across the parking lot
like a rocket. Instead, it blew up."

He says one end of the barrel flew 120 feet.

The men were responsive when paramedics arrived at Funk Racing. They were
taken to a local hospital, then flown to Harborview Medical Center in
Seattle with severe burns.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jul 19 19:19:58 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:19:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] DIY MSD
Message-ID: <B1148012C5224ACAA7B82DFEB5FFDC91@blackbox2>

I finally finished putting one of these together:

http://www.molla.org/DIY-CDI/SC-DIY-CDI-article-hires.pdf


I'm triggering it with a Pertronix.

It did not proceed without issue.  On the first test drive the
box blew about 1 mile from home.  I towbar'd the car home.

What had happened was that I wound the transformer with the primary 
"inside" (first) instead of "outside" (last).  

The primary gets hot when the rpms go up.  So it ended up melting insulation
and shorting out.  I rewound the transformer properly and with larger gauge
wire and all is OK now.

There is a noticeable improvement in ease of starting and idling,
especially after I opened the plug gaps out to .060 inch.

I think this unit is actually better than a commercial MSD6 unit.  
It only goes to 300v on the primary of the ignition coil which is better
in preventing crossfire between the plug wires.  It will also run on a lower
battery voltage than an MSD.

There are easy parts substitutions that can be made for those ambitious 
enough to pursue this project:

Q1,Q2 MTP3055E can be replaced by IRL540
IC1,IC2 IR2155 are now known as IR21531 in the Digikey catalog.
Q6,Q7 IRF822 can be swapped to IRF840

All the parts can be acquired online from Digikey.

As an interesting side note, while I was hooking up the towbar a couple came
over from a house nearby to check out my car.  Turns out the woman had
inherited a Bugeye from her father.  It's been sitting since the 70's
She does not want to part with it, but she doesn't have the money to get it
back on the road at this time.

I told her I would stop by and give her a ride in mine after I got the bugs
worked out..  Maybe a little motivation will help her along.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jul 19 19:36:04 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:36:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] DIY MSD
In-Reply-To: <B1148012C5224ACAA7B82DFEB5FFDC91@blackbox2>
References: <B1148012C5224ACAA7B82DFEB5FFDC91@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <EE35BC8F4C3A4407BF6243FDF90A28ED@spider>

I am impressed. Is the transformer you wind a torrid?
...bill in corvallis
==========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 6:20 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] DIY MSD

I finally finished putting one of these together:

http://www.molla.org/DIY-CDI/SC-DIY-CDI-article-hires.pdf


I'm triggering it with a Pertronix.

It did not proceed without issue.  On the first test drive the
box blew about 1 mile from home.  I towbar'd the car home.

What had happened was that I wound the transformer with the primary 
"inside" (first) instead of "outside" (last).  

The primary gets hot when the rpms go up.  So it ended up melting insulation
and shorting out.  I rewound the transformer properly and with larger gauge
wire and all is OK now.

There is a noticeable improvement in ease of starting and idling,
especially after I opened the plug gaps out to .060 inch.

I think this unit is actually better than a commercial MSD6 unit.  
It only goes to 300v on the primary of the ignition coil which is better
in preventing crossfire between the plug wires.  It will also run on a lower
battery voltage than an MSD.

There are easy parts substitutions that can be made for those ambitious 
enough to pursue this project:

Q1,Q2 MTP3055E can be replaced by IRL540
IC1,IC2 IR2155 are now known as IR21531 in the Digikey catalog.
Q6,Q7 IRF822 can be swapped to IRF840

All the parts can be acquired online from Digikey.

As an interesting side note, while I was hooking up the towbar a couple came
over from a house nearby to check out my car.  Turns out the woman had
inherited a Bugeye from her father.  It's been sitting since the 70's
She does not want to part with it, but she doesn't have the money to get it
back on the road at this time.

I told her I would stop by and give her a ride in mine after I got the bugs
worked out..  Maybe a little motivation will help her along.
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jul 19 20:09:29 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:09:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
Message-ID: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My new boss has one of his man-caves for sale, would be an awesome car condo. He does man-cave very well. The floor is heated, BTW -

http://kaneygroup.com/c77/

Ron

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jul 19 20:51:34 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:51:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] DIY MSD
In-Reply-To: <EE35BC8F4C3A4407BF6243FDF90A28ED@spider>
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	<EE35BC8F4C3A4407BF6243FDF90A28ED@spider>
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No, I used a two part ferrite core, about 1.75 inches in diameter.
It had a plastic spool that fit into the core halves.

I had this laying around.  I can't remember where I got it.
It seemed about the right size.

A torrid would probably work. Just a pain to wind.

My brother knows the exact core to use.  I think he is going to 
build one for his Midget.  He works for a place that makes 
transformers.  I'll email the specifics.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] DIY MSD

I am impressed. Is the transformer you wind a torrid?
...bill in corvallis

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 21:39:04 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:39:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
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Very nice.

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Mon Jul 19 23:10:14 2010
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 22:10:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
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Looks like a great home for the single guy.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> My new boss has one of his man-caves for sale, would be an awesome car
> condo. He does man-cave very well. The floor is heated, BTW -
>
> http://kaneygroup.com/c77/
>
> Ron
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Mon Jul 19 23:27:15 2010
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:27:15 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
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Looks like a great office perk for the new President of the company!  It
needs a P-51 in there though.
Dave W.


> My new boss has one of his man-caves for sale, would be an awesome car
> condo. He does man-cave very well. The floor is heated, BTW -
>
> http://kaneygroup.com/c77/
>
> Ron

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 20 02:53:41 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 04:53:41 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] no Spridget or common sense content
Message-ID: <3969.6a5cbfbf.3976be15@aol.com>

Did they suffer any brain damage?  Enquiring minds need to  know...
 
In a message dated 20/07/2010 01:34:03 GMT Daylight Time,  
corvallis at peoplepc.com writes:

July 19,  2010 7:34 PM EDT 

SEDRO-WOOLLEY, Wash. (AP) - Two men who were  apparently trying to take an
unusual thrill ride were seriously injured in  an explosion at a shop that
builds and services race cars in Washington  state.

Fire Chief Dean Klinger told the Skagit Valley Herald the men  put about 
four
gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the parking lot  Sunday night,
sat on top and lit it for a "barrel ride."

Klinger  says, "Apparently it was supposed to slide across the parking lot
like a  rocket. Instead, it blew up."

He says one end of the barrel flew 120  feet.

The men were responsive when paramedics arrived at Funk Racing.  They were
taken to a local hospital, then flown to Harborview Medical  Center in
Seattle with severe burns.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 05:04:17 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:04:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat stories.
Message-ID: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I don't recall which Spridgiteer  got bit by a ferel cat a year or 2 ago and
his arm swelled up like a balloon but I did keep his nightmare in my head
for my similar episode yesterday. I was on my way to Michigan to visit the
in-laws and had to drop off my 2 older cats to my brothers to watch because
the one needs pills 2 times a day for thyroid tumors. We took the long way
out to paddle our kayaks in the finger lakes of upstate New York and get a
vacation before the visit when I get a desperate phone call from my brother.
He said the cats pulled the heating ducts out in the room they stayed in and
are trapped in the ducts. He said the healthy kitty BB who is tiny and thin
would be in the room when he entered and then she would go back in the duct.
I had to drive back from NY State 5 hr drive immediately to find BB in the
duct and the sickly Calico cat Stitches MIA. BB comes out with a little
trouble but sick Stitches isn't even heard meowing. At this point I'm
desperate because my brother lives in a trailer and I was afraid it would
get hot and without meds she would die.

I crawl under the trailer and find the duct too small for any cat but pulled
from the opening and the cat roaming free or shall I say escaped. No biggie
I just call for her, and post photos, and look all night for 2 nights but to
find 24 or more kitties in the trailer park. I set a Have-A-Heart trap in my
brother spare room with the vent still open but to catch a strange kitty
that a previous ower in the Trailer Park left behind after moving. I let him
go and try again. After hearing a story that a neighbor burried a cat that
was run over the day before I am desperate to find Stitches even thinking
she was that kitty although she is very skidish and weird often not coming
to you when outside I expected she would not be near moving cars. Then
Sunday night I find her behind my brothers trailer I call her and I move in
closer I actuall get to pet her once or twice but she now moves under the
oil tank.

I think by the title you know where this is going.

I am tired, and bit pissed that I ruined my trip and my partners trip and
Stitches is not on meds which could kill her in time but most of all I am
impatient. So I bring her a can of cat food. she leans over for a sniff but
backs away. Now I can't tell you how angry I am and surly she could sense
the anger and impatience. So I lean in a little more with the cat food and I
am in arms reach, I grab her while she is under the tank by the scruff of
the neck and hold on for dear life,..............she screams as though being
bit by a dog and flips out most likely the closed space freaks her out that
much more and she BITES me in the wrist a hair from veins and arteries. I am
pissed and give up for the night sleeping out in the tent I brought with me,
my dirty tee shirts sprawled about for her to know I am there although at
this point she is the lucky one NOT to be captured by me. She is currently
living under the trailer and I went to the hospital the next morning with a
swollen throbbing wrist. Because her rabies vaccination had expired one year
ago due to my laziness I had to get rabies shots. I was so delirious because
I couldn't sleep I cried at the emergency room like a big baby so don't
spread that around ; )  The shots weren't horrible but I had about 10 shots
total and an IV that hurt like hell (nice nurse who shouldn't be giving
IV's) and the most painful besides the IV were all the shots in the bitten
wrist area but the doctor tried her best to cause the least amount of pain.
I have to get more shots over the next 4 weeks and I'm hoping I can get them
in New Mexico which is where I'll be visiting family in weeks to come.
Thankfully my California trip the week prior will be shot free.

I'm going back to try the trap under the trailer and need other suggestions
to catch Stitches the CAT FROM HELL.

BTW I spent 6 hrs in the emergency room.
Linda

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 05:08:42 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:08:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Love Tap" Video
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Whoa I was in Oregon a few years ago and Washington State I was very lucky
to get one complete dry week although I've heard stories that it always
rains. I couldn't live there unless I gave up LBC's and motorcycles : )
Lin
My new handle:
Gal with CAT FROM HELL still MIA

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Nice video (other than for the tap you took).
>
> I used to work up in Oregon years ago.  I managed a sales team over the
> Western 11 States and and such I was in Oregon a couple times a month.
>
> I remember one particular month of May, on the last day of the month, where
> my rep told me that it had rained every day except for one day.
>
> I still recall seeing golfers playing in the rain with the water streaming
> off the back of their golf clubs when they would hit the ball. Rooster
> tails
> coming off the back of their clubs!
>
> My rep told me that the golfers, some of them, simply adapt to the weather.
>
>
> How often do you get dry weather to race in?  And with that. .  I would
> guess that a lot of racing is done in the rain?
>
> My heavy rain calculation for the area might have been more tied to the
> times I was there. . .
>
> Kirk
> 59 1275
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 05:15:15 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:15:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
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Or Car Crazy Gal ; )
Lin

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:10 AM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks like a great home for the single guy.
>
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > My new boss has one of his man-caves for sale, would be an awesome car
> > condo. He does man-cave very well. The floor is heated, BTW -
> >
> > http://kaneygroup.com/c77/
> >
> > Ron
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From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Jul 20 06:41:42 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:41:42 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <464E78E2C7F14D2DB1AA813C0DC7FC8A@user8634b3d69b>

We had a couple of Siamese cats and to assist them made a 'cat flap' in the 
rear door to the kitchen.  A couple of months after I had done this we were 
woken by the sounds of a 'cat fight' in the kitchen.  Getting down there 
revealed a large black tom-cat fighting our pair of little panthers.  The 
large black tom was too scared to move out of the now open back door, so I 
decided to help.  It promptly bit the fleshy part of my hand but rapidly 
left the house.  Two days later I couldn't move my hand and wrist, it was 
somewhat swollen.
A hospital trip gave me an tetanus injection in my butt, a 10 day series of 
antibiotic tablets, a week long sick note from work and a lot of mocking 
from the nurse who thought about the poor little pussy cat causing a big man 
like me to seek medical help.  The swelling went down after two days.  An IV 
and 10 shots at hospital seems like a pure cash collection process to me but 
hey, I'm no doctor.
You could have a problem collecting the cat if it is now seeing you as an 
'enemy'.  I think all you can do is to try and restore the cat's confidence 
by keeping on talking and feeding without the sudden snatching.
The other solution which will allow you to continue the vacation is to shoot 
the little git and you won't have any more problem with it.  If they are pet 
cats they should act as pets.  If they are 'farm cats' they are allowed to 
be a little ratty with humans.  Best of luck whichever solution you take.
Next doors' cat will be taking a longish trip shortly, it has got back to 
using the cloth top of the wife's Audi TT as a fur shedding place when it 
sleeps.  Shame really, it has learnt to walk on the fence top between the 
gardens and not to go into our garden so why doesn't it learn about the car 
roof?


Guy R Day



---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:04 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat stories.


> List,
> I don't recall which Spridgiteer  got bit by a ferel cat a year or 2 ago 
> and
> his arm swelled up like a balloon but I did keep his nightmare in my head
> for my similar episode yesterday.   <SNIP>
> I have to get more shots over the next 4 weeks and I'm hoping I can get 
> them
> in New Mexico which is where I'll be visiting family in weeks to come.
> Thankfully my California trip the week prior will be shot free.
>
> I'm going back to try the trap under the trailer and need other 
> suggestions
> to catch Stitches the CAT FROM HELL.
>
> BTW I spent 6 hrs in the emergency room.
> Linda
> _______________________________________________
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jul 20 06:47:53 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 05:47:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no Spridget or common sense content
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Hello,

  It should probably be mentioned that Sedro Wooley Washington was the
  home of the state "funny farm" years ago. The State decided that it
  could no longer afford to run the facility and simply decided that
  the "inmates" weren't crazy after all. Basically they opened the
  doors and walked away. Most of the former "patients"  settled right
  there. At least that's the way I understand it. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Listen to sermon, THEN eat missionary! 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 20 06:50:33 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:50:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
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I'm going back to try the trap under the trailer and need other suggestions
to catch Stitches the CAT FROM HELL.

BTW I spent 6 hrs in the emergency room.
Linda
_______________________________________________

Shotgun.  

Fast and effective.

ED 

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 20 07:16:47 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:16:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
In-Reply-To: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201007200616340.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 09:09 PM 7/19/2010, Ron Soave wrote:
>My new boss has one of his man-caves for sale, would be an awesome 
>car condo. He does man-cave very well. The floor is heated, BTW -

Big deal.  no urinal........ 

From pchast at francomm.com  Tue Jul 20 07:20:15 2010
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:20:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <C94A59E98BAF421D9A5E6335C0885A46@HomePC>
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>
	<C94A59E98BAF421D9A5E6335C0885A46@HomePC>
Message-ID: <op.vf48n1ocsjevdj@pete200>

Linda,

Are you sure you want her with that attitude and not remembering you.
Any evidence she slept on your shirt when you left it on the ground.
Sounds like she doesn't want you. (sorry to be so mean)




On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:50:33 -0400, Larry Daniels  
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> I'm going back to try the trap under the trailer and need other  
> suggestions
> to catch Stitches the CAT FROM HELL.
>
> BTW I spent 6 hrs in the emergency room.
> Linda
> _______________________________________________
>
> Shotgun.
>
> Fast and effective.
>
> ED
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From pchast at francomm.com  Tue Jul 20 07:21:37 2010
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:21:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <464E78E2C7F14D2DB1AA813C0DC7FC8A@user8634b3d69b>
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>
	<464E78E2C7F14D2DB1AA813C0DC7FC8A@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <op.vf48qbh9sjevdj@pete200>

I've given up on that training. I have some 3'x3' heavy cardboard that goes
on top of the cars as soon as they are garaged.

Pete
Athens, NY

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:41:42 -0400, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

>
> We had a couple of Siamese cats and to assist them made a 'cat flap' in  
> the rear door to the kitchen.  A couple of months after I had done this  
> we were woken by the sounds of a 'cat fight' in the kitchen.  Getting  
> down there revealed a large black tom-cat fighting our pair of little  
> panthers.  The large black tom was too scared to move out of the now  
> open back door, so I decided to help.  It promptly bit the fleshy part  
> of my hand but rapidly left the house.  Two days later I couldn't move  
> my hand and wrist, it was somewhat swollen.
> A hospital trip gave me an tetanus injection in my butt, a 10 day series  
> of antibiotic tablets, a week long sick note from work and a lot of  
> mocking from the nurse who thought about the poor little pussy cat  
> causing a big man like me to seek medical help.  The swelling went down  
> after two days.  An IV and 10 shots at hospital seems like a pure cash  
> collection process to me but hey, I'm no doctor.
> You could have a problem collecting the cat if it is now seeing you as  
> an 'enemy'.  I think all you can do is to try and restore the cat's  
> confidence by keeping on talking and feeding without the sudden  
> snatching.
> The other solution which will allow you to continue the vacation is to  
> shoot the little git and you won't have any more problem with it.  If  
> they are pet cats they should act as pets.  If they are 'farm cats' they  
> are allowed to be a little ratty with humans.  Best of luck whichever  
> solution you take.
> Next doors' cat will be taking a longish trip shortly, it has got back  
> to using the cloth top of the wife's Audi TT as a fur shedding place  
> when it sleeps.  Shame really, it has learnt to walk on the fence top  
> between the gardens and not to go into our garden so why doesn't it  
> learn about the car roof?
>
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner"  
> <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:04 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat  
> stories.
>
>
>> List,
>> I don't recall which Spridgiteer  got bit by a ferel cat a year or 2  
>> ago and
>> his arm swelled up like a balloon but I did keep his nightmare in my  
>> head
>> for my similar episode yesterday.   <SNIP>
>> I have to get more shots over the next 4 weeks and I'm hoping I can get  
>> them
>> in New Mexico which is where I'll be visiting family in weeks to come.
>> Thankfully my California trip the week prior will be shot free.
>>
>> I'm going back to try the trap under the trailer and need other  
>> suggestions
>> to catch Stitches the CAT FROM HELL.
>>
>> BTW I spent 6 hrs in the emergency room.
>> Linda
>> _______________________________________________
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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 07:36:01 2010
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 06:36:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
In-Reply-To: <201007200616340.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201007200616340.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik8PAtNzWYSk5t1NVy4C42LhTR47NRUWbmsVnTz@mail.gmail.com>

You are from Jersey, just use the sink.

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> At 09:09 PM 7/19/2010, Ron Soave wrote:
>
>> My new boss has one of his man-caves for sale, would be an awesome car
>> condo. He does man-cave very well. The floor is heated, BTW -
>>
>
> Big deal.  no urinal........
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jul 20 07:36:03 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:36:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell
In-Reply-To: <4DDAD996D3624A5CB321537C59122BBE@spider>
References: <4DDAD996D3624A5CB321537C59122BBE@spider>
Message-ID: <7784996E5B634EB59A1EA113F5828C7C@Home>

Put about four gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the parking lot, 
put the cat on top, and light it.  This works anywhere, not just 
Sedro-Woolley, WA.

Michael Rowe 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Jul 20 08:08:53 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave KK7SS)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:08:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell...
Message-ID: <1861371684.111627.1279634933317.JavaMail.root@vznit170068>

/G1mVIl: Permission denied

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 08:34:08 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:34:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8PAtNzWYSk5t1NVy4C42LhTR47NRUWbmsVnTz@mail.gmail.com>
References: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201007200616340.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<AANLkTik8PAtNzWYSk5t1NVy4C42LhTR47NRUWbmsVnTz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim3SelRZtw9Pxz1Lpcazl1i2OoqUTH4-huL9J4X@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:

> You are from Jersey, just use the sink.
>

Being from Jersey has other advantages. Not only can you use the sink, you
don't even have to take the dishes out of it.
--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 20 08:45:30 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:45:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim3SelRZtw9Pxz1Lpcazl1i2OoqUTH4-huL9J4X@mail.gmail.c om>
References: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201007200616340.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<AANLkTik8PAtNzWYSk5t1NVy4C42LhTR47NRUWbmsVnTz@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim3SelRZtw9Pxz1Lpcazl1i2OoqUTH4-huL9J4X@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <201007200745581.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 09:34 AM 7/20/2010, Jim Johnson wrote:
>On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > You are from Jersey, just use the sink.
> >
>
>Being from Jersey has other advantages. Not only can you use the sink, you
>don't even have to take the dishes out of it.

That's true!  because the guests from Kansas will think it's seafood. 

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Tue Jul 20 09:38:22 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:38:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 1960 BE
Message-ID: <9CD81A8768D640F3AEFA6A16E3A597D1@MAINCOMPUTER>

I have the original 948 that came in my 60 BE. I opted for a 1275 so this
thing is just taking up garage space. It is mostly complete with carbs and
even air cleaners. It turns freely. Is there a market for this or should I
part it out on Flea-Bay? No Dizzy.
Thanks.


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to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.]

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jul 20 09:54:51 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:54:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 1960 BE
In-Reply-To: <9CD81A8768D640F3AEFA6A16E3A597D1@MAINCOMPUTER>
References: <9CD81A8768D640F3AEFA6A16E3A597D1@MAINCOMPUTER>
Message-ID: <942223.56102.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Jim,

They don't have much market value as most people prefer a 1275 and even at that, 
most people won't pay much money for something that is condition-unknown. 


The racers on the list might chime-in and tell you if 948's have a value to 
them. Years ago they did, but I don't know the situation today.

 jay fishbein

wallingford, ct





________________________________
From: Jim Fournier <jimndi at frontiernet.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 11:38:22 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] 948 1960 BE

I have the original 948 that came in my 60 BE. I opted for a 1275 so this
thing is just taking up garage space. It is mostly complete with carbs and
even air cleaners. It turns freely. Is there a market for this or should I
part it out on Flea-Bay? No Dizzy.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jul 20 09:55:27 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:55:27 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] no Spridget or common sense content
In-Reply-To: <3969.6a5cbfbf.3976be15@aol.com>
References: <3969.6a5cbfbf.3976be15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w5819CB2212EB28BFF8FF9FB8A00@phx.gbl>

I guess there is the strong possibility that they may never reproduce ...



> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> Did they suffer any brain damage? Enquiring minds need to know...
>
> In a message dated 20/07/2010 01:34:03 GMT Daylight Time,
> corvallis at peoplepc.com writes:
>
> July 19, 2010 7:34 PM EDT
>
> SEDRO-WOOLLEY, Wash. (AP) - Two men who were apparently trying to take an
> unusual thrill ride were seriously injured in an explosion at a shop that
> builds and services race cars in Washington state.
>
> Fire Chief Dean Klinger told the Skagit Valley Herald the men put about
> four
> gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the parking lot Sunday night,
> sat on top and lit it for a "barrel ride."
>
> Klinger says, "Apparently it was supposed to slide across the parking lot
> like a rocket. Instead, it blew up."
>
> He says one end of the barrel flew 120 feet.
>
> The men were responsive when paramedics arrived at Funk Racing. They were
> taken to a local hospital, then flown to Harborview Medical Center in
> Seattle with severe burns.
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jul 20 10:09:54 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:09:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] One Lone Innocenti Spider - The Italian Sprite
Message-ID: <114337.44038.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If anyone on the list has any interest, I have one last unrestored Innocenti 
Spider I am selling.

After all of my years of collecting them and ending-up with a whopping total of 
seven, I am down to just two cars: My restored 950 spider and one unrestored 
Innocenti S.

The car is fairly complete, has the original 1098 engine, and most of the 
hard-to-find parts including bumpers, a good windshield, most of the rubber 
interior, seats, air cleaner, and so-on. It has 18,000 original miles but does 
need some rot repair as it spent most of it's like on an island off the cost of 
Maine.

 
The car is in Wallingford, CT and I can deliver it a reasonable distance if 
necessary.

If you're not familiar with these cars, they were Austin-Healey Sprites build 
under license from BMC by the Lambretta company in Italy. They have a different 
body and Magneti-Marelli electrics. They are somewhat rare and the popular 
number thrown around of known  examples in the U.S. is 30.

A detailed article can be found on Ed's website.
http://www.justbrits.com/Articles/innocenti.htm

Here is a Google link to some images:
http://tinyurl.com/394mjn2

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 20 10:21:32 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I won't covet, but can I dream a little?
In-Reply-To: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <314574.40313.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Except for the lack of stealth-looks on the outside (and maybe a few more
thousand square feet of room on the inside), this could easily be the
real-life 
home of Dirk Pitt.  As it is now, I could definitely live there
happily.  Looks 
to be plenty of room for a few LBC's and motorcycles and
quads and wood-working 
equipment and my metal shop and...

Besides - that
loft would be an excellent place to finally install that 
fireman's (or
Batman) pole I've wanted since I was about 6.

 - David Booker
Long Island
________________________________
From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
To:
Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>; team-thicko at autox.team.net
Sent: Mon,
July 19, 2010 10:09:29 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet

My new
boss has one of his man-caves for sale, would be an awesome car condo. He
does man-cave very well. The floor is heated, BTW -
http://kaneygroup.com/c77/

Ron
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From stargazer1 at cox.net  Tue Jul 20 10:32:51 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:32:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <C94A59E98BAF421D9A5E6335C0885A46@HomePC>
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>
	<C94A59E98BAF421D9A5E6335C0885A46@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4C45CFB3.6000103@cox.net>

> I'm going back to try the trap under the trailer and need other suggestions
> to catch Stitches the CAT FROM HELL.
>
> BTW I spent 6 hrs in the emergency room.
> Linda
>    
Get yourself a piece of PVC pipe. Slip a loop of rope through it so you 
have a have one end to loop, the other to pull. Get the loop around the 
cat's neck, and pull the other end. The cat isn't going to be happy 
about this, and you have to be careful not to injure them, but this is 
what animal control officers use to keep from getting bitten.

I keep one around here for the occasional 'possum.

Another alternative is to use a heavy work glove and grab them by the 
scruff of the neck. They reflexively relax, at least somewhat, and they 
can't get to you anyway.

Give the cat to someone else, a long ways away.

Good luck,
Dave Ambrose

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 10:33:09 2010
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:33:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <C94A59E98BAF421D9A5E6335C0885A46@HomePC>
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>
	<C94A59E98BAF421D9A5E6335C0885A46@HomePC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimc87gOM4HNEWMxh2Ur_qKiiQiwTweXGfWLskrA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I'm going back to try the trap under the trailer and need other
suggestions to catch Stitches the CAT FROM HELL.

Shotgun. Fast and effective.

Nah, a .22 pistol is more sporting and helps with the hand/eye
coordination! Cats make great moving targets... Then wheel chocks!!!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
1969 Midget - just a shell of its former self

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 10:40:15 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:40:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I won't covet, but can I dream a little?
In-Reply-To: <314574.40313.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<314574.40313.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikF4uXRWxJi0qdwuOggChThAOXB9SrlzN8X88in@mail.gmail.com>

If only it were a bit closer to Niles...
Too bad he can't spell the name of the town it is near.
David L

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 20 11:17:06 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:17:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikIXu7CDvQZzK4i-l7794JZFdFQzMHtFuONRnoU@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <784069.10189.qm@web38901.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
I do not think that is a deal - i can get one in California cheaper.
The problem with a hanger is most places require you have a airo plane.
My fiend has some old propellers he tells them he is restoring.
He has the hanger mostly full of his cars and left an area for wood working.
They are always bugging him that he needs a plane to keep the hanger.
So far he has made it over a year - this year they have been bugging him more
then ever.
He says he days may be numbered with out a frame or complete plane.
 
Vigil


--- On Mon, 7/19/10, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, team-thicko at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, July 19, 2010, 10:10 PM


Looks like a great home for the single guy.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> My new boss has one of his man-caves for sale, would be an awesome car
> condo. He does man-cave very well. The floor is heated, BTW -
>
> http://kaneygroup.com/c77/
>
> Ron
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 11:16:50 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:16:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <4C45CFB3.6000103@cox.net>
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>
	<C94A59E98BAF421D9A5E6335C0885A46@HomePC> <4C45CFB3.6000103@cox.net>
Message-ID: <34941579166228370@unknownmsgid>

> Another alternative is to use a heavy work glove and grab them by the scruff of the neck. They reflexively relax, at least somewhat, and they can't get to you anyway.

Sounds like hearsay to me. My Bengal cat can rake you just fine with
his hind claws while you are holding him by the scruff of the neck.
David L

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 11:22:15 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:22:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
In-Reply-To: <201007200745581.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201007200616340.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<AANLkTik8PAtNzWYSk5t1NVy4C42LhTR47NRUWbmsVnTz@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim3SelRZtw9Pxz1Lpcazl1i2OoqUTH4-huL9J4X@mail.gmail.com>
	<201007200745581.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTil3KHhthBaq1DDCG0Q7g1FGk9aKuj6maDm1y2ye@mail.gmail.com>

Eeewwwwww!!

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> At 09:34 AM 7/20/2010, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > You are from Jersey, just use the sink.
>> >
>>
>> Being from Jersey has other advantages. Not only can you use the sink, you
>> don't even have to take the dishes out of it.
>>
>
> That's true!  because the guests from Kansas will think it's seafood.
>



--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 11:26:57 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:26:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <34941579166228370@unknownmsgid>
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>
	<C94A59E98BAF421D9A5E6335C0885A46@HomePC> <4C45CFB3.6000103@cox.net>
	<34941579166228370@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimW0trWlV7hxseoqwLgQcGmZy-ogkFKRufUT4PT@mail.gmail.com>

If I still had my 18 foot Burmese Python I would lend her to you....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Another alternative is to use a heavy work glove and grab them by the
> scruff of the neck. They reflexively relax, at least somewhat, and they
> can't get to you anyway.
>
> Sounds like hearsay to me. My Bengal cat can rake you just fine with
> his hind claws while you are holding him by the scruff of the neck.
> David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Jul 20 12:04:51 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:04:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell...
In-Reply-To: <1861371684.111627.1279634933317.JavaMail.root@vznit170068>
References: <1861371684.111627.1279634933317.JavaMail.root@vznit170068>
Message-ID: <4C45E543.18897.28DBD@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Catnip ???

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jul 20 12:15:05 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:15:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] no Spridget or common sense content
In-Reply-To: <3969.6a5cbfbf.3976be15@aol.com>
References: <3969.6a5cbfbf.3976be15@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C45E7A9.2060704@justbrits.com>

<< Did they suffer any brain damage? >>

HOW could they, Westlake ??? 
Plainly didn't HAVE any 'brains' to start with !!!!

LOL !!!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']

From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Jul 20 12:36:12 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:36:12 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell
References: <4DDAD996D3624A5CB321537C59122BBE@spider>
	<7784996E5B634EB59A1EA113F5828C7C@Home>
Message-ID: <B0E1B930D671474E844359F3F2845541@user8634b3d69b>

LOL

They come back alive.....

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:36 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell


> Put about four gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the parking 
> lot, put the cat on top, and light it.  This works anywhere, not just 
> Sedro-Woolley, WA.
>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jul 20 13:08:59 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:08:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell...
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<< Catnip ??? >>

On the end of the RIFLE barrel in .22 with shot loads, Dave ??

Automatic wheel-chock "maker" ???

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jul 20 13:42:25 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:42:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell
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So do it 10 times.

> LOL
> 
> They come back alive.....
> 
> Guy R Day
> 
> 
>> Put about four gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the parking 
>> lot, put the cat on top, and light it.  This works anywhere, not just 
>> Sedro-Woolley, WA.
>>
>> Michael Rowe _______________________________________________

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 20 14:13:53 2010
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:13:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Need a roll cage in WA in a bit,
	of a	hurry
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Find the local Jeep or 4x4 club. There will surely be someone who can 
make a roll bar/cage in a hurry, although you may get a few chuckles 
when you tell them it's for a deVille.

Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:16:56 +0000
From: Chris Rae <Chris.Rae at microsoft.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] [Not Spridget!] Need a roll cage in WA in a bit
	of a	hurry
To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
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Hi chaps - I need to put a roll cage in a Cadillac De Ville for the 24h of
Lemons race on August 8th. Do any of you happen to know a cage builder (or
anyone who might know the right person)? Any help very much appreciated - we
did have one lined up but he's balked at the timescale.

Sorry for the lack of Spridgetness but I'm getting a bit desperate!

Chris

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 20 14:39:50 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:39:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
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What does one do with a pet python?  Take it for a slither?


LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:26 PM
To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat 
stories.

If I still had my 18 foot Burmese Python I would lend her to you....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Another alternative is to use a heavy work glove and grab them by the
> scruff of the neck. They reflexively relax, at least somewhat, and they
> can't get to you anyway.
>
> Sounds like hearsay to me. My Bengal cat can rake you just fine with
> his hind claws while you are holding him by the scruff of the neck.
> David L
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 14:56:34 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:56:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - something for the train enthusiasts
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFE8nmKpmXY

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jul 20 15:00:00 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:00:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell
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ya know, it always occurred to me that instead of using 4 inch pipe  
for a potato gun a 10 inch pipe would be a great fit for a wheel  
chock..  give ya the option of going for distance not only for..  
well.. removal.

Lester


On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:

> Put about four gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the  
> parking lot, put the cat on top, and light it.  This works anywhere,  
> not just Sedro-Woolley, WA.
>
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jul 20 15:14:00 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:14:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
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Pffftt..  use the 9G technique that we used at the lab.  Granted it  
was on rats but the theory still is sound.

Grab the cat by the tail, swing in a large arc as fast as you can  
(Hence the 9 G's) and space it so just the head hits on a large steady  
surface.  A table works especially well.  No more scratching.

NB:  If bits of brain squirt out you may have exceeded 9 G's.

Lester

Oh yeah.. hiss at them, it makes them run.  or hit them with a  
flashlight or maybe even with just the light beam from one...


On Jul 20, 2010, at 12:16 PM, David Lieb wrote:

>> Another alternative is to use a heavy work glove and grab them by  
>> the scruff of the neck. They reflexively relax, at least somewhat,  
>> and they can't get to you anyway.
>
> Sounds like hearsay to me. My Bengal cat can rake you just fine with
> his hind claws while you are holding him by the scruff of the neck.
> David L
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 20 15:15:30 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:15:30 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
Message-ID: <2ecef.d1de02.39776bf2@aol.com>

Pump-action shotgun - faster still!
 
In a message dated 20/07/2010 13:50:57 GMT Daylight Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

Shotgun.  

Fast and effective.

ED  

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 20 15:18:31 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:18:31 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] I won't covet, but can I dream a little?
Message-ID: <2f056.1cfaf60a.39776ca7@aol.com>

For dancing??
 
In a message dated 20/07/2010 17:35:43 GMT Daylight Time,  
tncarnut1 at yahoo.com writes:

Besides  - that
loft would be an excellent place to finally install that  
fireman's (or
Batman) pole I've wanted since I was about 6.

-  David Booker
Long Island

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 15:28:10 2010
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:28:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Someone here was looking for one of these...
Message-ID: <AANLkTimTdV8xCTheWJuQaoUryF6yd8b6ids0Qy5L8bvH@mail.gmail.com>

Although the price is steep:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-Healey-Sprite-MG-Midget-Fiberglass-Hardtop-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3f01a5eff7QQitemZ270610591735QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_710wt_1165

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Tue Jul 20 15:38:38 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:38:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
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On 7/20/2010 10:16 AM, David Lieb wrote:
>> Another alternative is to use a heavy work glove and grab them by the scruff of the neck. They reflexively relax, at least somewhat, and they can't get to you anyway.
>>      
> Sounds like hearsay to me. My Bengal cat can rake you just fine with
> his hind claws while you are holding him by the scruff of the neck.
>    
This has worked for me on multiple occasions. I hold the cat upright 
with my arm off to the side. Haven't yet had a cat that could get their 
legs back that far. But, maybe yours is special?

Cheers,
Dave

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 15:47:16 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:47:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
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> Pump-action shotgun - faster still!

Only significant if you have very poor aim.
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 15:57:29 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:57:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Someone here was looking for one of these...
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I just love the interesting quotes one gets from Ebay auctions...

"...The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear,..." Right!

"New ones are priced at $1,4.00"
David L

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 20 16:15:07 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:15:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell
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A  4 inch pipe on your spud gun?  What the hell kind of taters are you 
shooting?

LAD

P.S.  I made a few spud guns for a guy I used to work with.  He took them up 
to his home stomping grounds in Northern Wisconsin and they used them to 
shoot bears.  Pissing off bears with spud guns is about as bright as riding 
55 gallon drums with ignited methanol in them.


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:00 PM
To: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cat from Hell

ya know, it always occurred to me that instead of using 4 inch pipe
for a potato gun a 10 inch pipe would be a great fit for a wheel
chock..  give ya the option of going for distance not only for..
well.. removal.

Lester


On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:

> Put about four gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the
> parking lot, put the cat on top, and light it.  This works anywhere,
> not just Sedro-Woolley, WA.
>
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 16:22:53 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:22:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
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We used to take ours out for a picnic lunch with us. They would stay in
their bag until we were done eating. Then, we would find an empty point in
the park, usually in the sun, and let them out to sun and slither. The kids
that were interested, would come over and ask questions, those that were
scared, stayed away.
The only time we pulled the snakes out in a crowd, was at PetSmart. They
were having a "take a photo with your pet for a Christmas card" special. So,
we took the python, boa constrictor, and milk snake. That was one of the
best Christmas cards ever!! We even let the dog sit in on that one.

Brad

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> What does one do with a pet python?  Take it for a slither?
>
>
> LAD
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:26 PM
> To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
> stories.
>
> If I still had my 18 foot Burmese Python I would lend her to you....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Another alternative is to use a heavy work glove and grab them by the
> > scruff of the neck. They reflexively relax, at least somewhat, and they
> > can't get to you anyway.
> >
> > Sounds like hearsay to me. My Bengal cat can rake you just fine with
> > his hind claws while you are holding him by the scruff of the neck.
> > David L
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From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Tue Jul 20 16:32:45 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:32:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
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At 08:50 AM 7/20/2010, you wrote:
>I'm going back to try the trap under the trailer and need other suggestions
>to catch Stitches the CAT FROM HELL.
>
>BTW I spent 6 hrs in the emergency room.
>Linda
>_______________________________________________
>
>Shotgun.
>
>Fast and effective.
>
>ED
>_______________________________________________

.22 cal more of a challenge

ED




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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 20 16:37:04 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:37:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Someone here was looking for one of these...
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That's some mighty nice patina..... you know you pay extra for that...

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
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Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 2:57:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Someone here was looking for one of these...

I just love the interesting quotes one gets from Ebay auctions...

"...The item may have some signs of cosmetic wear,..." Right!

"New ones are priced at $1,4.00"
David L
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 20 16:39:17 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:39:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - something for the train enthusiasts
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I thought I saw that on the Dr Seuss cartoon "Sneeches"  what a contraption.....

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jul 20 16:57:11 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:57:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
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ROFLMAO!

If you continue with the cat thread and read this is sounds good.. right up
'til you get to "slither out".

;-)

Lester


On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> We used to take ours out for a picnic lunch with us. They would stay in
> their bag until we were done eating. Then, we would find an empty point in
> the park, usually in the sun, and let them out to sun and slither. The kids
> that were interested, would come over and ask questions, those that were
> scared, stayed away.
> The only time we pulled the snakes out in a crowd, was at PetSmart. They
> were having a "take a photo with your pet for a Christmas card" special.
So,
> we took the python, boa constrictor, and milk snake. That was one of the
> best Christmas cards ever!! We even let the dog sit in on that one.
>
> Brad
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> What does one do with a pet python?  Take it for a slither?
>>
>>
>> LAD

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Tue Jul 20 17:16:02 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:16:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - something for the train enthusiasts
In-Reply-To: <575183.52809.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTinXngSL14AXdLmUIl34tKUu2hJxmjvHs8Ttq_wy@mail.gmail.com>
	<575183.52809.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Oh crap, I see this every day at my job.  If there are only two tracks for
the flow of traffic, one is shut down for what is called "single tracking".
What usually takes me 7-9 hours to complete a run from Barstow to Los
Angeles or vice a versa can take 12 or more hours.  We have to slow down for
the duration of the length of the work area which can be as much as several
miles.  This bottle neck limits trains in both directions.  The dispatcher
"fleets" the trains, which means he runs several trains in one direction at
a time.  If you are not in the direction of the "fleeting" you can sit in
line for several hours.  If you are at the back of the line, you will
probably be "dogcaught", which means a relief crew will take over your train
sometimes before you go on the "hours of service" law (federal law limits
daily service to 12 hours) and "die on the law".  Sometimes they don't get
to you before that.  I have been on duty for as much as 21 hours.  Good
payday, but it can get boring if you don't have reading material or an ipod.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I thought I saw that on the Dr Seuss cartoon "Sneeches"  what a
> contraption.....
>
>  Edward Perez
> Snohomish, WA
> 78 Midget (1275)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: J Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
> To: Spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 1:56:34 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - something for the train enthusiasts
>
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 17:26:39 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:26:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - something for the train enthusiasts
In-Reply-To: <575183.52809.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTinXngSL14AXdLmUIl34tKUu2hJxmjvHs8Ttq_wy@mail.gmail.com>
	<575183.52809.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7347780189152032717@unknownmsgid>

> I thought I saw that on the Dr Seuss cartoon "Sneeches"  what a contraption.....

Gandy-dancing sure has come a long way!
David L

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Tue Jul 20 17:29:50 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:29:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
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I've got a nice Rossi pump action .22 caliber "gallery gun" with a 26"
barrel.  Using sub-sonic (slower than the speed of sound) .22s, the only
noise you hear is the hammer hitting.  Makes less noise than a pellet gun.
Not enough power to cycle a semi-automatic, but works just fine in a pump
gun.  No noise, no questions from the neighbors.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Dave Yealy <lbc at littlebitcountry.com>wrote:

> At 08:50 AM 7/20/2010, you wrote:
>
>> I'm going back to try the trap under the trailer and need other
>> suggestions
>> to catch Stitches the CAT FROM HELL.
>>
>> BTW I spent 6 hrs in the emergency room.
>> Linda
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Shotgun.
>>
>> Fast and effective.
>>
>> ED
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>
> .22 cal more of a challenge
>
> ED
>
>
>
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From franks97 at verizon.net  Tue Jul 20 20:30:58 2010
From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:30:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] SFR Vintage Classic
In-Reply-To: <749055.23293.qm@web113717.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C86BA9F2.A1BB%franks97@verizon.net>

> SFR SCCA Fall Vintage Races
> In Memory of Bruce Goronsky
> Thunderhill Raceway Park
> September 11 - 12
>
> This Vintage Race weekend will be dedicated to the memory of our former
> Vintage Chief Bruce Goronsky. Bruce passed away March 29th after fighting a
> courageous battle with cancer. Bruce spent many years making the Vintage
> program a success for the region and he contributed as a director for
> Thunderhill Raceway.
>
> As a tribute to Bruce we will be dressing for the Saturday evening dinner
and
> social in his favorite track side attire, a Hawaiian shirt and baseball cap
> (with his signature gray ponytail hanging out the back). Please join us to
> celebrate Bruce9s life and his many accomplishments for the San Francisco
SCCA
> region.
>
>
> The Race Groups for our first Vintage Classic Sports Car event at
Thunderhill
> will be as follows:
>
> Group 1     Small Bore Production
>
> Per SCCA Vintage and Historic General Competition Rules, 1972 Production
Car
> Specifications: E, F, G, H Production, all; B, C Sedan, all
>
>  Group 2     T/A 2.5 Challenge
>
>     Cars which were originally allowed to participate in the 1971-1972 32.5
> Challenge2 series as well as cars that were eligible in the B Sedan class
and
> C Sedan class as shown in the 1972 General Competition Rules of the SCCA
are
> eligible. A list of eligible cars can be found in Appendix S1 of this
> document.
>
>     All cars entered in Group 2 must adhere to the following rules:
>
>     a.    Rim width must not exceed 7 inches.
>
>     b.    Tires must be rated DOT 40 and above. No slicks.
>
>     c.    No tube frame cars.
>
>     d.    Engine limit of 2000cc (up to and including 1970 GCR) or 2500 cc
> (1971 and 1972 GCR 2.5 Trans-Am spec).
>
>     e. Any car not meeting these rules can be entered in Group 1.
>
> Group 3     Small Bore Formula and Sport Racer
>
> Formula Ford, 1966-pre thru 1974; all; Formula Jr., all; Sport Racing cars,
> all, 2 liter and under. Formula Vee, all. Formula Super Vee.
>
> Group 4     Historic Stock Car
>
> Historic NASCAR Winston Cup cars, 1980 thru 1995
>
> Group 5     Big Bore Production
>
> A, B Production, all; Can Am, 1966 thru 1973; Trans Am, 1966 thru 1973, over
2
> liter; GT cars, 1960 thru 1973, over 2 liter
>
> Event schedule and entry forms will be available on www.sfrscca.org
>
<http://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=52316343&msgid=704058&act=GCTY&c=3
2
>
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August
>
> For car eligibility information:
>
> Bill Godwin, Vintage Chief - Call (925) 200-7722
>
> vintage at sfrscca.org
>
>
>
>
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jul 20 21:11:37 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:11:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <4C46175E.9030408@cox.net>
Message-ID: <C86BB379.28E7F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

So you people don't care for cats?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jul 20 21:40:50 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:40:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <0B18058F29564FF698023D282CC24238@HomePC>
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When they are 18 feet long and over 200 lbs, you do anything they want.

;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> What does one do with a pet python?  Take it for a slither?

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jul 20 21:46:55 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:46:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no Spridget or common sense content
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References: <3969.6a5cbfbf.3976be15@aol.com>
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How could they? It's extremely difficult to damage something you don't 
have to begin with.

Kate


WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> Did they suffer any brain damage?  Enquiring minds need to  know...
>  
> In a message dated 20/07/2010 01:34:03 GMT Daylight Time,  
> corvallis at peoplepc.com writes:
>
> July 19,  2010 7:34 PM EDT 
>
> SEDRO-WOOLLEY, Wash. (AP) - Two men who were  apparently trying to take an
> unusual thrill ride were seriously injured in  an explosion at a shop that
> builds and services race cars in Washington  state.
>
> Fire Chief Dean Klinger told the Skagit Valley Herald the men  put about 
> four
> gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the parking lot  Sunday night,
> sat on top and lit it for a "barrel ride."
>
> Klinger  says, "Apparently it was supposed to slide across the parking lot
> like a  rocket. Instead, it blew up."
>
> He says one end of the barrel flew 120  feet.
>
> The men were responsive when paramedics arrived at Funk Racing.  They were
> taken to a local hospital, then flown to Harborview Medical  Center in
> Seattle with severe burns.
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From maine2me at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 20 22:07:15 2010
From: maine2me at yahoo.com (Dan Dwelley)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:07:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 64 Sprite project for sale
Message-ID: <646902.92350.qm@web114112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hello all. Well, the time has come to sell my 64 Rotary Sprite project car. 
There's a long way to go but would be cool if finished...or...take the parts 
and 
build your own with your own ideas.
I need to make room in the garage for a 69 BGT and I'm not selling my A. 
So....I 
thought I would offer it up to the list first. The car comes with a Mazda 13B 
Rotary engine with Trans and shortened tail housing (To keep the shifter where 
it belongs. a 4.10 limited slip rear from an RX7. Spridgetech Fiberglass flared 
fenders, bonnet with cowl induction scoop(low profile but lets you know there's 
something special under the bonnet.)and the usual boxes of stuff. Feel free to 
make me an offer or ask for more details. I can arrange transportation between 
maine and Washington, DC as long as it's before 7/29/10. (Friend of mine is 
leaving for DC on the 29th)

Dan in Maine

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 20 23:08:57 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:08:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
Message-ID: <768398.7227.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Check this out - If you like hangers - you can fly through this one.
They keep the good year Blimp there for service and during high winds..
The place has its own weather - it was raining inside and it was 95 out side.
I had the good furtune to see these inside and out on a vist with a friend.
He was the Good Year Blimp pilot so i got a few rides - what fun ride.
 
Vigil





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Don't know how many of you are interested in this history but here it is.  The
city of Tustin and County of Orange produced this video as part of the future
use of the LTA base and hangers.  Many of you remember the activity there and
some have been involved.  My Academy class had a party at the base staff club
which ended in a small fight.  We had two Marines in our class and they were
in civilian clothes and both took offense at comments from other Marines who
were complaining why a bunch of cops were in the staff club.  Both Marines,
CID Investigators, told the other Marines to shut up and when they didn't a
fight started.  The MP's were called and things calmed down BUT it was kind of
wild for a few minutes.  I don't recall how many threw punches but it was
about 15-20 as I recall.  We had a few pissed off wives and the party stopped
a little early.  I remember hearing one of the CID Sgt's make the comment that
nobody was going to insult
 his classmates so he punched the SOB.
 
Anyway the video is interesting and brings back some good memories.  One USMC
birthday ball (I think that was the reason for the dance) was held in the
south hanger sometime in the late 1960's but even though I was there I can't
recall the exact year or the specific reason.  Old age. 
 
Anyway enjoy the video.
 
Pat
 
http://tustinca.org/VIDEOS/HANGARSHISTORY.WMV
 


 

 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 08:17:17 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:17:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] British or German?
In-Reply-To: <002d01cb28d1$d830e4f0$8892aed0$@net>
References: <303343.9414.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<002d01cb28d1$d830e4f0$8892aed0$@net>
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Having trouble on deciding on a British or German car?

Now you can have both in one.

Note that this car appears to have been first registered in Missouri.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320564080929&vi
ewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123



--
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Jim
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shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Jul 21 08:18:08 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:18:08 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Caveat Emptor
Message-ID: <20100721.081808.18647.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

As we've all seen before,some people really DON'T know what they are talking
about-
an Ashley Sebring Sprite, not a coupe (hence not a Sebring)-BIN for only
$32000?
OK, it has a Speedwell style bonnet that looks nice, but holy crap- who's he
kidding? Maybe the hardtop is an Ashley- It sure isn't Speedwell or BMC, but
Ashley NEVER made Sebring Sprites.

Ebay #330452459726

Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware)

Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 08:41:26 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:41:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <768398.7227.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <113592.84728.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
sorry - they pulled the video last nightsome time.
Not sure why - Vigil

--- On Tue, 7/20/10, uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
wrote:


From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "9ISSA" <9issa at justbrits.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 10:08 PM



Check this out - If you like hangers - you can fly through this one.
They keep the good year Blimp there for service and during high winds..
The place has its own weather - it was raining inside and it was 95 out side.
I had the good furtune to see these inside and out on a vist with a friend.
He was the Good Year Blimp pilot so i got a few rides - what fun ride.

Vigil





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Don't know how many of you are interested in this history but here it is. 
The
city of Tustin and County of Orange produced this video as part of the future
use of the LTA base and hangers.  Many of you remember the activity there and
some have been involved.  My Academy class had a party at the base staff club
which ended in a small fight.  We had two Marines in our class and they were
in civilian clothes and both took offense at comments from other Marines who
were complaining why a bunch of cops were in the staff club.  Both Marines,
CID Investigators, told the other Marines to shut up and when they didn't a
fight started.  The MP's were called and things calmed down BUT it was kind
of
wild for a few minutes.  I don't recall how many threw punches but it was
about 15-20 as I recall.  We had a few pissed off wives and the party stopped
a little early.  I remember hearing one of the CID Sgt's make the comment
that
nobody was going to insult
his classmates so he punched the SOB.

Anyway the video is interesting and brings back some good memories.  One USMC
birthday ball (I think that was the reason for the dance) was held in the
south hanger sometime in the late 1960's but even though I was there I can't
recall the exact year or the specific reason.  Old age.

Anyway enjoy the video.

Pat

http://tustinca.org/VIDEOS/HANGARSHISTORY.WMV
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 09:32:04 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] British or German?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilz2-zdpeGf0W4Ffs3I8-PNX4tohg32JGQzCVef@mail.gmail.com>
References: <303343.9414.qm@web180405.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<002d01cb28d1$d830e4f0$8892aed0$@net>
	<AANLkTilz2-zdpeGf0W4Ffs3I8-PNX4tohg32JGQzCVef@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <512755.15485.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's nicely done... wow... It doesn't look as cheesy as the TD kit cars.  I 
don't think the VW engine will sound as nice as the original though.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 7:17:17 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] British or German?

Having trouble on deciding on a British or German car?

Now you can have both in one.

Note that this car appears to have been first registered in Missouri.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320564080929&vi
ewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1123



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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 09:36:08 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:36:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Caveat Emptor
In-Reply-To: <20100721.081808.18647.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100721.081808.18647.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
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Love the crappy blue paint job on the motor.... looks like it was sprayed in 
place.  They painted lines and hoses too.  Over-spray on the bell housing.  
idiots.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 7:18:08 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Caveat Emptor

As we've all seen before,some people really DON'T know what they are talking
about-
an Ashley Sebring Sprite, not a coupe (hence not a Sebring)-BIN for only
$32000?
OK, it has a Speedwell style bonnet that looks nice, but holy crap- who's he
kidding? Maybe the hardtop is an Ashley- It sure isn't Speedwell or BMC, but
Ashley NEVER made Sebring Sprites.

Ebay #330452459726

Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware)

Mark Haynes
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HAN5L8016

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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 09:36:46 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:36:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <113592.84728.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <768398.7227.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<113592.84728.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikqwxnhfuJaw_1383PWymh7fTGOY1S8YchgD5MA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:41 AM,  <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> sorry - they pulled the video last nightsome time.
> Not sure why - Vigil
>

For whatever idiotic reason they pulled the WMV and now it appears
we're stuck with a streaming Flash video version here:
http://www.tustinca.org/videos/thetustinhangars/thetustinhangars.html

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul 21 09:37:24 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:37:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-W35D53CA7447619A732595DE5A10@phx.gbl>
References: <768398.7227.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY110-W35D53CA7447619A732595DE5A10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C471434.5050102@justbrits.com>

<< Bye the way your link doesn't work. >>

And BY the way [or should one prefer<G>, BTW ],
NEITHER the link in the post to 9issa nor the link posted
to Spridgets works, Vigil !!!

I DID spend some time  on  the Tustin home page and finally
found a listing, buy alas NO joy = 404 Page not found<F> !!

Get to work Vigil, please <G><G><G> !!!

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jul 21 10:29:29 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:29:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <768398.7227.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C86C6E79.28ECC%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Any of you remember Tustin Thunder?

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed Jul 21 10:36:33 2010
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:36:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Vintage Racing
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA940601CA38@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Still have a spot for a crew for this weekend's VSCDA vintage race at
the "I'm real rich and I don't play golf" Autobahn Country Club in
Joliet, IL.

Visit the place that made Jake and Elwood Blues famous.

Email me off-list here and at home if you are up for it.



-JohnD     johnsfolly AT gmail DOT com



"Our Lady of Blessed Acceleration, don't fail me now." -Elwood Blues

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Wed Jul 21 11:13:25 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (bjshov8 at tx.rr.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:13:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqwxnhfuJaw_1383PWymh7fTGOY1S8YchgD5MA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100721171326.DEYOB.45324.root@cdptpa-web28-z01>

I saw an episode of "Dirty Jobs" filmed at a hangar in Germany.  IIRC that particular hangar is much larger, maybe 500' tall.  It was never used as a hangar and was recently converted into an indoor swimming pool.


> For whatever idiotic reason they pulled the WMV and now it appears
> we're stuck with a streaming Flash video version here:
> http://www.tustinca.org/videos/thetustinhangars/thetustinhangars.html

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 11:27:59 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:27:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Caveat Emptor
In-Reply-To: <20100721.081808.18647.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100721.081808.18647.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <527299.86957.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Makes you wonder if the guy is trying to pull a fast one or really just has no
idea what he's talking about...  It's easy enough to pull up all kinds of info
on Sebring Sprites via the internet. Surely you'd do a wee bit of checking
before making claims like that in an ad.

 - David Booker
Long Island


Ebay
#330452459726

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 14:48:13 2010
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1972 Midget For Sale - $800
Message-ID: <870400.41714.qm@web63502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Went to a cruise night last night.  Talking to a guy, he has a 1972 MG
Midget for sale at $800.  I did not see the car.  He says it runs but need
brake 
work.  Minimal rust (some in the floor behind the seats), front clip in
good 
shape, has a new top & windshield in the box.  I would be willing to
look at the 
car if someone is interested.  Mid-Michigan location. 
Disclaimer:  No personal 
interest, not responsible, yada, yada, yada. 
Doug    ....o~'o 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 17:31:43 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:31:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikqwxnhfuJaw_1383PWymh7fTGOY1S8YchgD5MA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <768398.7227.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<113592.84728.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikqwxnhfuJaw_1383PWymh7fTGOY1S8YchgD5MA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim+s0HAdBkCVeEm7h6MbDn1cZSoC=nxpjSHrLsn@mail.gmail.com>

I just finished watching the video here.
http://www.tustinca.org/videos/thetustinhangars/thetustinhangars.html
It's about a half hour long.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, J Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:41 AM,  <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > sorry - they pulled the video last nightsome time.
> > Not sure why - Vigil
> >
>
> For whatever idiotic reason they pulled the WMV and now it appears
> we're stuck with a streaming Flash video version here:
> http://www.tustinca.org/videos/thetustinhangars/thetustinhangars.html
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 18:33:10 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:33:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-W35D53CA7447619A732595DE5A10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <996266.62091.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
I am not sure what happened it worked when i sent it - then later that day it
went away.
 
Yep - same hanger your thinking about....
 
Vigil

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, tom white <tswhitez123 at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: tom white <tswhitez123 at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [9issa] Now here is a real Hangar
To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com, spridgets at autox.team.net, 9issa at justbrits.com
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 8:24 AM




I don't know if it was the same dance but I attended a dance in that hangar
sometime in the early sixties.  I lived in Tustin and some of my friends were
military brats. 

Bye the way your link doesn't work.

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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jul 21 19:05:02 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:05:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim+s0HAdBkCVeEm7h6MbDn1cZSoC=nxpjSHrLsn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C86CE74E.28F03%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Do they mention the historic auto races that they don't have there anymore?
That was a fun time.  BTW, they're about 20 minutes from my house, if
traffic is light.
> I just finished watching the video here.
> http://www.tustinca.org/videos/thetustinhangars/thetustinhangars.html
> It's about a half hour long.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jul 21 19:14:49 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:14:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <C86CE74E.28F03%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTim+s0HAdBkCVeEm7h6MbDn1cZSoC=nxpjSHrLsn@mail.gmail.com>
	<C86CE74E.28F03%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=WY7OiNztsA-3HxLNfrCxyR_naLbr6WUBeuz6y@mail.gmail.com>

Nope, no mention, but it was still an interesting watch.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> Do they mention the historic auto races that they don't have there anymore?
> That was a fun time.  BTW, they're about 20 minutes from my house, if
> traffic is light.
> > I just finished watching the video here.
> > http://www.tustinca.org/videos/thetustinhangars/thetustinhangars.html
> > It's about a half hour long.
>
>
>


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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 19:41:04 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim+s0HAdBkCVeEm7h6MbDn1cZSoC=nxpjSHrLsn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <976154.637.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Thanks Brad.
 
I am not sure why the link changed - same video.
 
Great Video about the place.
 
Vigil

--- On Wed, 7/21/10, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
To: "J Foster" <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 4:31 PM


I just finished watching the video here.
http://www.tustinca.org/videos/thetustinhangars/thetustinhangars.html
It's about a half hour long.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, J Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:41 AM,  <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > sorry - they pulled the video last nightsome time.
> > Not sure why - Vigil
> >
>
> For whatever idiotic reason they pulled the WMV and now it appears
> we're stuck with a streaming Flash video version here:
> http://www.tustinca.org/videos/thetustinhangars/thetustinhangars.html
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Jul 21 20:11:01 2010
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:11:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim+s0HAdBkCVeEm7h6MbDn1cZSoC=nxpjSHrLsn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <768398.7227.qm@web38902.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<113592.84728.qm@web38907.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikqwxnhfuJaw_1383PWymh7fTGOY1S8YchgD5MA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <188842204.20100721191101@pacifier.com>

Hello,

     there are a couple of these blimp hangars in Tilamook Oregon as
     well. One of them is now the home of a "Warbirds" style aviation
     museum that specialize in Naval Aircraft, including Flying Boats.
     Always worth a trip to the coast of a stop for anyone coming up
     US 101. 

-- 
Best regards,
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 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  A big enough hammer fixes anything 

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul 21 20:29:10 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:29:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <C86CE74E.28F03%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C86CE74E.28F03%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4C47ACF6.5090808@justbrits.com>

<< Do they mention the historic auto races that they don't have there 
anymore? >>

No Billy BUT I do believe YOU [minimum<G>] will enjoy:

http://www.turbomx5.com/tustin.htm

I KNEW I recalled 'something' when you asked about [I think]
Tustin Thunder !!!    Ergo, google for same <VBG> !!!

I did, I did, but I only tought I taw a puddy tat !!!

Nyuk, nyuk !!!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jul 21 20:33:12 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:33:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Caveat Emptor
In-Reply-To: <527299.86957.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20100721.081808.18647.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
	<527299.86957.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C47ADE8.9090502@justbrits.com>

<< Surely you'd do a wee bit of checking before making claims like that 
in an ad. >>

PLEASE quite calling us Shirley, David !!!!!!!

PPP

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 21 21:23:27 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:23:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=WY7OiNztsA-3HxLNfrCxyR_naLbr6WUBeuz6y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTim+s0HAdBkCVeEm7h6MbDn1cZSoC=nxpjSHrLsn@mail.gmail.com>
	<C86CE74E.28F03%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<AANLkTi=WY7OiNztsA-3HxLNfrCxyR_naLbr6WUBeuz6y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38307.89267.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I grew up in So Cal and had family in Tustin and never heard of this... this is 
amazing.  I'll have to take my father out there when I visit.  He's never been 
there or heard of it either.....  thanks for sharing.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Cc: Spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, July 21, 2010 6:14:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar

Nope, no mention, but it was still an interesting watch.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> Do they mention the historic auto races that they don't have there anymore?
> That was a fun time.  BTW, they're about 20 minutes from my house, if
> traffic is light.
> > I just finished watching the video here.
> > http://www.tustinca.org/videos/thetustinhangars/thetustinhangars.html
> > It's about a half hour long.
>
>
>


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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jul 21 21:38:40 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:38:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now here is a real Hangar
In-Reply-To: <38307.89267.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C86D0B50.28F19%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Tustin Thunder was an annual week-long car event held at the Blimp hangers.
The car show was inside the hangers, and the race track was next to the
hangers. It was a VARA event with races every day.
It was cancelled about ten years ago.
http://www.kwyjibo.com/ispeed/tustin97/index.html

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 22 07:19:11 2010
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 06:19:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Square Body Bonnet Stay
Message-ID: <303483.13991.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think that is the official term, although I call them prop rods. One catalog shows a rod mounted on the left side, the other catalog shows one on the right side of the bonnet. The rods themselves are different, and I was curious about when each was used. The RH rod seems to better support the bonnet because it is attached close to the center, and  I am looking for a RH mounted prop rod if anyone has one for sale, or trade for a LH rod. 
John
Fogelsville, PA

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 10:47:02 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:47:02 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Ellen Page MG Driver?
Message-ID: <AANLkTimED9JdKVh3KGMAyJMVJeuM4Vf_8skmxbjYsBXJ@mail.gmail.com>

At least in the Cisco commercial:
http://videolounge.cisco.com/video/town-hall/

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 10:49:20 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:49:20 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] More Ellen MG, for those who may not have seen,
 cute girl, cute  car.
Message-ID: <AANLkTinnhkE12mhLLXnOJ5vaGnBAQ-RT4PEtAWHVEtcq@mail.gmail.com>

http://videolounge.cisco.com/video/traffic-jam/

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Jul 22 11:34:57 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:34:57 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
Message-ID: <ae8d2.641478e3.3979db41@aol.com>

The only good cat is a dead cat!
 
In a message dated 21/07/2010 05:03:48 GMT Daylight Time,  
billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:

So you  people don't care for cats?

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 12:54:58 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:54:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
Message-ID: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>

I made a silencer for a 22 rifle.  But on my first attempt it did not work
that great.  Not enough sound deadening material I guess.

But it can be shot in the garage into a target whereby it is not heard
across the street (with the stereo system up real loud)!

Kirk

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jul 22 13:18:24 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 14:18:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <ae8d2.641478e3.3979db41@aol.com>
References: <ae8d2.641478e3.3979db41@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4C489980.8030608@justbrits.com>

Westlake, Wastlake, <sigh> - TSK, TSK !!!!

<< The only good cat is a dead cat! >>

THAT is just INCORRECT !!!

You have forgotten/omitted  WHEEL CHOCKS !!!!

TSK, TSK, TSK !!!!

Go have a Pint or a cuppa !!!!  Pint seems to be REQUIRED tho !!!!

PPP

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 14:37:13 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:37:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <ae8d2.641478e3.3979db41@aol.com>
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Personally, I like cats!    Broiled, roasted, fried or even stewed....
Yumm!

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:34 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> The only good cat is a dead cat!
>
> In a message dated 21/07/2010 05:03:48 GMT Daylight Time,
> billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:
>
> So you  people don't care for cats?
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jul 22 14:38:46 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
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Then it should work in clubs.

 jay fishbein

wallingford, ct




________________________________
From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>

I made a silencer for a 22 rifle.  But on my first attempt it did not work
that great.  Not enough sound deadening material I guess.

But it can be shot in the garage into a target whereby it is not heard
across the street (with the stereo system up real loud)!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 14:43:50 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 15:43:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <ae8d2.641478e3.3979db41@aol.com>
References: <ae8d2.641478e3.3979db41@aol.com>
Message-ID: <3517801636859146893@unknownmsgid>

> The only good cat is a dead cat!

Purrhaps that applies to British cats?
I have been loved by some very cool cats over the years. Oreo, the
20-pound cat I had to put down earlier this year, ran on four bald
tires, but insisted on being an outside cat. Many large dogs in our
neighborhood still drag their owners to the other side of the street
when they go by. Chester, my Bengal cat, is loud but fun to play with.
Hobbes, my marbled tabby, is usually in the way whenever I try to use
my computer keyboard. They are all good friends of mine; threaten them
at your own dire peril.
David L

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 22 15:59:17 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:59:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>

Kirk, you might not want to make such public admissions.  Having a silencer 
makes it a Title 2 weapon.  You need to get licensed and buy a $200 tax 
stamp just like with a fully automatic weapon.  You can't even let anybody 
else shoot it without them getting a tax stamp, too.  I'm not sure, but I 
think there is something else involved in order to manufacture one, too. 
(It's been a looong time since I was involved in this stuff.)

They aren't legal at all in CA.

ATF likes to kick butt if you don't follow their rules.  Big fines and jail 
time, as I recall.

Shhhh!


LAD


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 1:54 PM
To: <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi

I made a silencer for a 22 rifle.  But on my first attempt it did not work
that great.  Not enough sound deadening material I guess.

But it can be shot in the garage into a target whereby it is not heard
across the street (with the stereo system up real loud)!

Kirk
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 16:14:14 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:14:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimWhVFzkgTGU2yO8dZVf9OBGMwMWDgVlsh08gv9@mail.gmail.com>

> I made a silencer for a 22 rifle.

If you are in the US that is an admission of a felony, unless you had
a completed Form 4 from the ATF.
I may or may not have had an illegal silencer, too, before I saw the
error of my ways and got one legally.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jul 22 18:16:45 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:16:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tough engines
Message-ID: <A154CD9F085643368635F805A1C7517C@Home>

Everyone seems to fuss with their engines, trying to get them working right.  But I am amazed at how tough my 1275 engine is.  I have no idea about its history or internal condition.  I bought it for $200 and installed it because the one in the car was leaking oil profusely.  I did clean up the everything and add an electronic ignition.  

Today, I pulled a plug wire to get it out of the way while tightening my fan belt and forgot to put it back on.  The car started and ran flawlessly, and I didn't figure out it was missing until I backed out of the driveway.  I am stunned that this thing can idle so smoothly on three cylinders that I didn't even notice.

Or am I getting too old to notice?

Michael Rowe
'74 Bugeyed Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 18:30:47 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 18:30:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
	<613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>
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Buying or making a silencer for an individual requires the same
paperwork.  A Class 3 manufacturer can make and sell them.
You can let others shoot a silencer or other Class 3 weapon (like full
automatic guns).  But, you have to be with them.  You can't loan it to
anyone or let anyone take it somewhere that you are not.
The stamp is an actual stamp, like a postage stamp.  The $200 price
for the stamp has not changed since 1934.  At that time it was priced
to keep most people from being able to afford the stamp.
Like switch blade knives, silencers/suppressors are legal in some
states and illegal in others.  Check your local laws.  Even if legal
in your locale, manufacture is against Federal law unless you have a
completed Form 4 or unless you are a licensed Class 3 firearms
manufacturer.
By definition anything made to be attached to a firearm and to lessen
the sound of firearm's report is a silencer.  If you tape a 20oz soda
bottle to the end of a gun (effective, BTW) then you have made an
illegal silencer.



On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> Kirk, you might not want to make such public admissions.  Having a silencer
> makes it a Title 2 weapon.  You need to get licensed and buy a $200 tax
> stamp just like with a fully automatic weapon.  You can't even let anybody
> else shoot it without them getting a tax stamp, too.  I'm not sure, but I
> think there is something else involved in order to manufacture one, too.
> (It's been a looong time since I was involved in this stuff.)
>
> They aren't legal at all in CA.
>
> ATF likes to kick butt if you don't follow their rules.  Big fines and jail
> time, as I recall.
>
> Shhhh!
>
>
> LAD

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jul 22 19:11:11 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:11:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil612cSu2YXxLQnBrMyEX7D_Bevk7TpmC3sxDZ1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com><613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>
	<AANLkTil612cSu2YXxLQnBrMyEX7D_Bevk7TpmC3sxDZ1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0711997A34BC419EA2DE787DA9F9761E@HomePC>

Close, derf, but not exactly right.  It is a "Title 2" weapon.  "Class 3" 
refers to the dealer.

The law reads that you must have a tax stamp to "possess" a Title 2 weapon. 
It is a pretty valid argument that, if you are holding it and shooting it, 
you are "possessing" it.  If you have a bag of dope in your pocket and the 
owner of that dope is standing next to you, you can still be charged with 
"possessing" the dope.  Trust me on this.  At $250,000 and 10 years, I don't 
think I would be splitting too many hairs with these guys.  They can 
seriously f___ with you if they want to.  And they get paid to do that.

All this being said, I can't imagine what kind of law-abiding citizen 
"needs" to have a silencer.  It seems to me that they should be illegal 
everywhere.  And save your BS 2nd amendment arguments, it doesn't apply.


LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "derf" <derf247 at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 7:30 PM
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>; <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>; 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rossi

Buying or making a silencer for an individual requires the same
paperwork.  A Class 3 manufacturer can make and sell them.
You can let others shoot a silencer or other Class 3 weapon (like full
automatic guns).  But, you have to be with them.  You can't loan it to
anyone or let anyone take it somewhere that you are not.
The stamp is an actual stamp, like a postage stamp.  The $200 price
for the stamp has not changed since 1934.  At that time it was priced
to keep most people from being able to afford the stamp.
Like switch blade knives, silencers/suppressors are legal in some
states and illegal in others.  Check your local laws.  Even if legal
in your locale, manufacture is against Federal law unless you have a
completed Form 4 or unless you are a licensed Class 3 firearms
manufacturer.
By definition anything made to be attached to a firearm and to lessen
the sound of firearm's report is a silencer.  If you tape a 20oz soda
bottle to the end of a gun (effective, BTW) then you have made an
illegal silencer.



On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> 
wrote:
> Kirk, you might not want to make such public admissions.  Having a 
> silencer
> makes it a Title 2 weapon.  You need to get licensed and buy a $200 tax
> stamp just like with a fully automatic weapon.  You can't even let anybody
> else shoot it without them getting a tax stamp, too.  I'm not sure, but I
> think there is something else involved in order to manufacture one, too.
> (It's been a looong time since I was involved in this stuff.)
>
> They aren't legal at all in CA.
>
> ATF likes to kick butt if you don't follow their rules.  Big fines and 
> jail
> time, as I recall.
>
> Shhhh!
>
>
> LAD 

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Thu Jul 22 20:03:53 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:03:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw:  Rossi
Message-ID: <3CDFAA69560A49F3B4E221104D990FA7@Dell9200>

If Kirk made a silencer that didn't work isn't that OK?  Sounds like a 
non-silencer!  Don't do it again Kirk...  Did you use sub-sonic ammo?

"Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms"  ---  My kind of Convenience Store!

Mark


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>

I made a silencer for a 22 rifle.  But on my first attempt it did not work
that great.  Not enough sound deadening material I guess.

But it can be shot in the garage into a target whereby it is not heard
across the street (with the stereo system up real loud)!

Kirk

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Jul 22 20:08:54 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:08:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <3517801636859146893@unknownmsgid>
References: <ae8d2.641478e3.3979db41@aol.com>
	<3517801636859146893@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <4C48F9B6.6090301@frontiernet.net>

Thank you, David. We might disagree on some issues, be this is one that 
matters. My dogs & I are owned by six of the furry little heathens.

Kate


David Lieb wrote:
>> The only good cat is a dead cat!
>>     
>
> Purrhaps that applies to British cats?
> I have been loved by some very cool cats over the years. Oreo, the
> 20-pound cat I had to put down earlier this year, ran on four bald
> tires, but insisted on being an outside cat. Many large dogs in our
> neighborhood still drag their owners to the other side of the street
> when they go by. Chester, my Bengal cat, is loud but fun to play with.
> Hobbes, my marbled tabby, is usually in the way whenever I try to use
> my computer keyboard. They are all good friends of mine; threaten them
> at your own dire peril.
> David L
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jul 22 20:39:27 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:39:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tough engines
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References: <A154CD9F085643368635F805A1C7517C@Home>
Message-ID: <4C4900DF.30560.2CAD298@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Yes    ;^D

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 22 Jul 2010 at 20:16, Michael Rowe wrote:


Or am I getting too old to notice?

From bkitterer at me.com  Thu Jul 22 21:24:32 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 20:24:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
Message-ID: <11012241-5FB5-4A8C-97F3-5668E2E27BC9@me.com>

There was a foreign car dealer near where I went to high school and I would stop in almost every school day on my way home.  One day in 1953 or 1954 there was an aggressive looking white car on the show room floor.  So in I went to see a marque that I had never seen - SIATA.  The manger whom I had gotten to know quite well told me it was a SIATA Spider and the little V8 delivered 150 hp at the rear wheels ! ! !   Not bad for 1953 from a two liter V8.  I have only seen one other one, or perhaps it was the same one, some months later going down a street being driven by a little white haired lady who's head was barley above the door.  

For quite a few years now I have been trying to find information on these cars but none of the searches came up with the correct car.  I was almost to the point of wondering how bad my memory ha become when in an ad in a recent Autoweek there was the car in red, a 1953 SIATA 208S.  This car belonged to Steve McQueen and is for sale at www.canepa.com  Go to collectable cars on their site, third row down, second car in.  Click on the photo for lots more pictures of the car.  A great looking and performing car.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Thu Jul 22 21:51:09 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 22:51:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <0711997A34BC419EA2DE787DA9F9761E@HomePC>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com><613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>
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	<0711997A34BC419EA2DE787DA9F9761E@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4C4911AD.5020403@tx.rr.com>

Well a person could make a very long list of things the nobody "needs".  
In my viewpoint if you want one and you aren't hurting anyone else with 
it, then go ahead.  Why would a person want to deprive you of the 
thing.  I mean who really "needs" football?  or golf?  or beer?  or 
LBC's?  Certainly lots more people are harmed every year by football, 
golf and beer than by legally owned suppressors.  I don't own one 
because I have no interest in it, but I also don't play golf nor do I 
pay much attention to football, but I don't begrudge the people who 
enjoy those things.

I also find it unusual that in some European countries, where they have 
strict controls on firearms, they let you have a suppressor if you want 
one without making a big deal out of it.  Our country demonizes certain 
objects and blows things all out of proportion, while overlooking things 
that are truly harmful.

> All this being said, I can't imagine what kind of law-abiding citizen 
> "needs" to have a silencer.  It seems to me that they should be illegal 
> everywhere.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 23:03:16 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:03:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <4C4911AD.5020403@tx.rr.com>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
	<613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>
	<AANLkTil612cSu2YXxLQnBrMyEX7D_Bevk7TpmC3sxDZ1@mail.gmail.com>
	<0711997A34BC419EA2DE787DA9F9761E@HomePC> <4C4911AD.5020403@tx.rr.com>
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>  All this being said, I can't imagine what kind of law-abiding citizen
>> "needs" to have a silencer.  It seems to me that they should be illegal
>> everywhere.
>>
>
In my experience, making something illegal is a sure way to guarantee that
plenty of folks will get one just to brag that they have an illegal item.
Legislating legality or illegality is a waste of time and money.  Don't
believe it?  Take the tags off your mattresses and see if anyone comes to
arrest you...   ;-)
--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 23:22:22 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:22:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <0711997A34BC419EA2DE787DA9F9761E@HomePC>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
	<613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>
	<AANLkTil612cSu2YXxLQnBrMyEX7D_Bevk7TpmC3sxDZ1@mail.gmail.com>
	<0711997A34BC419EA2DE787DA9F9761E@HomePC>
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Well, I'm a law abiding citizen and I have a suppressor.  It makes
shooting quieter, more pleasant.

Actually the more commonly used term to describe full auto weapons,
suppressors, SBRs, AOWs, etc. is "NFA item".
They are acquired through Class 3 FFL dealers and are regulated by the NFA.
If you google "class 3 items" you'll get more NFA type hits than you
would if you googled "title 2 items".
Title 2 is another term for NFA.  Class 3, NFA, and Title 2 are used
interchangeably by buyers and sellers of NFA items.


You may be right about the wording of the law but I doubt you can find
one precedent where someone was convicted of possessing a legal NFA
item while in company of the legal owner.

You probably cannot find one single incident of a legally possessed
NFA item being used in a crime.

You're right, no one "needs" a silencer.  No one "needs" a car.
Certainly no one needs more than one car, right?  No one "needs" to
drink alcohol.
What everyone needs is personal responsibility and integrity.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jul 22 23:26:28 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:26:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
In-Reply-To: <11012241-5FB5-4A8C-97F3-5668E2E27BC9@me.com>
References: <11012241-5FB5-4A8C-97F3-5668E2E27BC9@me.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimpeJZmovCGjrJfCFonu8riU7he8J73lGCUYoGN@mail.gmail.com>

Looks kinda like an AH 3000.

From colin at spriteparts.com.au  Fri Jul 23 00:44:20 2010
From: colin at spriteparts.com.au (Colin Dodds)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:44:20 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] silencers
Message-ID: <275901cb2a32$7b3f52b0$0200000a@Workstation1>

We don't need them Down Under.

A spear with a woomera is dealy silent.
http://tinyurl.com/2g735tk

avagopodday
Colin
www.SpriteParts.com.au

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 03:41:33 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:41:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] silencers
In-Reply-To: <275901cb2a32$7b3f52b0$0200000a@Workstation1>
References: <275901cb2a32$7b3f52b0$0200000a@Workstation1>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimx8v+iY_8tODDojpjwMg9po=st8+t+=B6P3jH7@mail.gmail.com>

Those would be illegal here. No spring loaded/assisted weapons allowed.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au>wrote:

> We don't need them Down Under.
>
> A spear with a woomera is dealy silent.
> http://tinyurl.com/2g735tk
>
> avagopodday
> Colin
> www.SpriteParts.com.au
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Fri Jul 23 06:07:37 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:07:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
Message-ID: <096001cb2a5f$a4297070$0168010a@mail2world.com>

"Owned by cats"
 
Yep, that's pretty much how that relashionship works :)
 
-=Chris (staff to 2 furballs)

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Kathryn Bales [kgb at frontiernet.net]
Sent: 7/22/2010 10:10:54 PM
To: 
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
stories. 

Thank you, David. We might disagree on some issues, be this is one that 
matters. My dogs & I are owned by six of the furry little heathens. 

Kate 


David Lieb wrote: 
>> The only good cat is a dead cat! 
>> 
> 
> Purrhaps that applies to British cats? 
> I have been loved by some very cool cats over the years. Oreo, the 
> 20-pound cat I had to put down earlier this year, ran on four bald 
> tires, but insisted on being an outside cat. Many large dogs in our 
> neighborhood still drag their owners to the other side of the street 
> when they go by. Chester, my Bengal cat, is loud but fun to play with.
> Hobbes, my marbled tabby, is usually in the way whenever I try to use 
> my computer keyboard. They are all good friends of mine; threaten them
> at your own dire peril. 
> David L 
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From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 23 06:47:08 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 05:47:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Rare 'Bugeye'
Message-ID: <247052.92218.qm@web46413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Here is your chance to buy what must be the only 1969 'Bugeye' ever made.
E-bay  
190422362877
Skip J.  BE 37190

From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 23 07:18:36 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:18:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tough engines
Message-ID: <534411.65802.qm@web46406.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

After installing a new dynamo, I started my 948  from outside the car by just
pulling the start knob.  Wondering why it run a little rough I walked around
to 
find I hadn't reconnected the two front plugs. Skip J. BE 37190

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 07:43:26 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:43:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] silencers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimx8v+iY_8tODDojpjwMg9po=st8+t+=B6P3jH7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <275901cb2a32$7b3f52b0$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTimx8v+iY_8tODDojpjwMg9po=st8+t+=B6P3jH7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTincVR++iUApcu0a9tsckr2Zxe6TA8ss2GxRaE7Z@mail.gmail.com>

> Those would be illegal here. No spring loaded/assisted weapons allowed.

Seems to me that this would make most of the cheap pellet guns (like
the Rossi I had as a kid) illegal, too.
David L

From maine2me at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 23 07:50:16 2010
From: maine2me at yahoo.com (Dan Dwelley)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:50:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] silencers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimx8v+iY_8tODDojpjwMg9po=st8+t+=B6P3jH7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <275901cb2a32$7b3f52b0$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTimx8v+iY_8tODDojpjwMg9po=st8+t+=B6P3jH7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <790568.26796.qm@web114119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Aside from the "cool" factor...subsonic .22 rounds through a suppressor still 
sound like a noisy pellet gun. The only round that is truly silent, when fired 
through a suppressor, is the .22 short. You will hear the hammer fall and the 
smack of the bullet hitting the target.
Oh...any air space between the bullet and the barrel (like a revolver) negates 
the suppressor action. (Watch the movies and see someone screw a suppressor onto 
a revolver...WRONG!!!! :o)

Ditto on the manufacture and use...Don't do it! Get a license first and avoid 
the legal issues!

Dan


----- Original Message ----
From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 5:41:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] silencers

Those would be illegal here. No spring loaded/assisted weapons allowed.

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au>wrote:

> We don't need them Down Under.
>
> A spear with a woomera is dealy silent.
> http://tinyurl.com/2g735tk
>
> avagopodday
> Colin
> www.SpriteParts.com.au
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Fri Jul 23 08:19:48 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:19:48 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
Message-ID: <20100723.081948.25128.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>

Bob-
Around the time that I was born in upstate NY, my dad was rallying and setting
up gymkhanas (now known as Autocross) with the local SCCA group there. One of
its members, a Dr. Eisenstark DDS, had a red SIATA spyder that he and his wife
would rally in. They used to keep a placard in the passenger's side door
pocket with the single word SIATA so that they could let people who wanted to
know what it was without all of the brouhaha (brouhaha? brouhaha! Ha Ha!Ha Ha
Ha Ha!).
Doc really loved that car and would piddlefuss (my wife's word) with it
constantly, he was the first person that I knew of who had a machine shop in
his garage (under the dentist's office). boy, was I impressed with that, even
at age 8.
Dennis Gage just did a piece on a guy in Canada that has SIATA SN#504, the
first production car. All 150(?) of these coupes and spyders were, apparently,
sold to and through a dealer on the west coast.
Pretty little cars reminiscent of the Ferrari 150MM of the mid to late
fifties, though they preceded them. They've got a great sound to them as well,
good luck finding one that's affordable, as I said they only made a small
number.



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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 23 08:35:50 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 07:35:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
In-Reply-To: <11012241-5FB5-4A8C-97F3-5668E2E27BC9@me.com>
Message-ID: <429366.17009.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

There are a few out there. There were several at Road America last weekend,
mostly driven up to the track. One was, I believe, one of Colin Comer's cars,
and it looked unrestored. I had a friend of a friend who recently sold his
208S to a museum; he'd owned it since new and raced it until he was in his
80s. I have a picture somewhere from Pittsburgh Vintage GP....

Ron

--- On
Thu, 7/22/10, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:

> From: Kitterer Bob
<bkitterer at me.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
> To: "Spridgets"
<Spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 10:24 PM
> There
was a foreign car dealer near
> where I went to high school and I would stop
in almost every
> school day on my way home.  One day in 1953 or 1954
> there
was an aggressive looking white car on the show room
> floor.  So in I went to
see a marque that I had never
> seen - SIATA.  The manger whom I had gotten to
know
> quite well told me it was a SIATA Spider and the little V8
> delivered
150 hp at the rear wheels ! !
> !   Not bad for 1953 from a two liter
> V8.  I
have only seen one other one, or perhaps it was
> the same one, some months
later going down a street being
> driven by a little white haired lady who's
head was barley
> above the door.  
> 
> For quite a few years now I have been
trying to find
> information on these cars but none of the searches came up
>
with the correct car.  I was almost to the point of
> wondering how bad my
memory ha become when in an ad in a
> recent Autoweek there was the car in
red, a 1953 SIATA
> 208S.  This car belonged to Steve McQueen and is for
>
sale at www.canepa.com  Go to collectable cars on their
> site, third row
down, second car in.  Click on the
> photo for lots more pictures of the car. 
A great
> looking and performing car.
> 
> Bob Kitterer
> 
> 1960 Austin
Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk
III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> - in storage
>
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From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Fri Jul 23 08:40:01 2010
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Fournier)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:40:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rare 'Bugeye'
References: <247052.92218.qm@web46413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0E0FF9151CB04D9E87E61D5E17592C49@MAINCOMPUTER>

Nice anrd restorale but far too difficult to get authentic parts for.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Skip Jackson" <jackson.skip at yahoo.com>
To: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 8:47 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Rare 'Bugeye'


> Here is your chance to buy what must be the only 1969 'Bugeye' ever made.
> E-bay
> 190422362877
> Skip J.  BE 37190
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 23 10:21:40 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:21:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
In-Reply-To: <429366.17009.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <322350.72252.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 7/23/10, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 208S to a museum; he'd owned it since new and raced it
> until he was in his
> 80s. I have a picture somewhere from Pittsburgh Vintage

Can't find GP pic, but did find this. Jim Carson is a friend's uncle. Henry Wessell was his best friend and racing buddy, he loved Alfas. Last time I checked, Jim still had the TC he bought new and raced ever since. 

http://henry-wessells-iii.memory-of.com/ShowPicPopUp.aspx?PicId=5043915&SiteId=84644

Ron

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Jul 23 10:30:50 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:30:50 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
Message-ID: <f155d.17f25e42.397b1dba@aol.com>

Every law creates an outlaw!
 
In a message dated 23/07/2010 07:26:04 GMT Daylight Time,  
bmwwxman at gmail.com writes:

In my  experience, making something illegal is a sure way to guarantee that
plenty  of folks will get one just to brag that they have an illegal  item.
Legislating legality or illegality is a waste of time and  money.  Don't
believe it?  Take the tags off your mattresses and  see if anyone comes to
arrest you...    ;-)
--

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 11:17:51 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:17:51 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] silencers
In-Reply-To: <790568.26796.qm@web114119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <275901cb2a32$7b3f52b0$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTimx8v+iY_8tODDojpjwMg9po=st8+t+=B6P3jH7@mail.gmail.com>
	<790568.26796.qm@web114119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinxPAiKjxZCiiRA+RTwHTe2_jZyMTkA0p4S0x4U@mail.gmail.com>

Actually there are many different rounds that are quiet through my
suppressor when used on a pistol, including sub sonic.
Some ammo exceeds the speed of sound through a rifle barrel and that
will give you a report.
Cheap, bulk 22 ammo from Wal*Mart is quieter than most pellet guns in
my pistol/suppressor..
You can hear the hammer fall and the impact with just about any ammo
that isn't "Hyper" velocity.




On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Dan Dwelley <maine2me at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Aside from the "cool" factor...subsonic .22 rounds through a suppressor still
> sound like a noisy pellet gun. The only round that is truly silent, when fired
> through a suppressor, is the .22 short. You will hear the hammer fall and the
> smack of the bullet hitting the target.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri Jul 23 11:27:35 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] silencers
In-Reply-To: <790568.26796.qm@web114119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <275901cb2a32$7b3f52b0$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTimx8v+iY_8tODDojpjwMg9po=st8+t+=B6P3jH7@mail.gmail.com>
	<790568.26796.qm@web114119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimVOpp0_Wi1tDCC2WX3rklfMw1MrialcJ0uwbgt@mail.gmail.com>

If you are talking about handguns, I agree.  Using subsonic .22s, the 26"
barrel on my .22 pump action rifle absorb the noise due to the length of the
barrel to the point it is virtually silent.  All I can hear is the hammer
hitting the receiver and just the faintest of noise from the muzzle.  Any
distance, such as next door, this would be completely silent.  I have had
pellet guns and they make a rather sharp popping noise on firing.  A pellet
gun would definitely be heard next door.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Dan Dwelley <maine2me at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Aside from the "cool" factor...subsonic .22 rounds through a suppressor
> still
> sound like a noisy pellet gun. The only round that is truly silent, when
> fired
> through a suppressor, is the .22 short. You will hear the hammer fall and
> the
> smack of the bullet hitting the target.
> Oh...any air space between the bullet and the barrel (like a revolver)
> negates
> the suppressor action. (Watch the movies and see someone screw a suppressor
> onto
> a revolver...WRONG!!!! :o)
>
> Ditto on the manufacture and use...Don't do it! Get a license first and
> avoid
> the legal issues!
>
> Dan
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> To: Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 5:41:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] silencers
>
> Those would be illegal here. No spring loaded/assisted weapons allowed.
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au
> >wrote:
>
> > We don't need them Down Under.
> >
> > A spear with a woomera is dealy silent.
> > http://tinyurl.com/2g735tk
> >
> > avagopodday
> > Colin
> > www.SpriteParts.com.au

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 11:59:46 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:59:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinmwYwsH67ZEPvQkjcPKKiPAyCxYotH-_GyrJiz@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
	<613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>
	<AANLkTil612cSu2YXxLQnBrMyEX7D_Bevk7TpmC3sxDZ1@mail.gmail.com>
	<0711997A34BC419EA2DE787DA9F9761E@HomePC> <4C4911AD.5020403@tx.rr.com>
	<AANLkTinmwYwsH67ZEPvQkjcPKKiPAyCxYotH-_GyrJiz@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=jPYTQd=aKz8Y-zwb07f8G0zEPAL5knAPBrfqC@mail.gmail.com>

> Legislating legality or illegality is a waste of time and money.  Don't
> believe it?  Take the tags off your mattresses and see if anyone comes to
> arrest you...   ;-)

Jim,
Didja ever stop and read the tag? It says not to be removed EXCEPT by
the consumer. Once you bought it, you have the right to remove the
tag. Go ahead, take them all off.
David L

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 23 12:34:34 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:34:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
In-Reply-To: <20100723.081948.25128.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100723.081948.25128.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1516B4FC20E24C6786B39EA5C4389713@spider>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siata

...bill in corvallis

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 23 12:45:51 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:45:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
In-Reply-To: <20100723.081948.25128.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100723.081948.25128.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <5EFFBEA178984C9697AAFDF263956E81@spider>

http://tinyurl.com/27v7f6e

...bill in corvallis

From bkitterer at me.com  Fri Jul 23 14:08:06 2010
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:08:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
In-Reply-To: <1516B4FC20E24C6786B39EA5C4389713@spider>
References: <20100723.081948.25128.0@webmail18.dca.untd.com>
	<1516B4FC20E24C6786B39EA5C4389713@spider>
Message-ID: <DBC7D3F4-47E1-4D87-A806-014F3DACD220@me.com>

Thanks to all who have responded with additional links and information.

Interestingly some months back there was nothing on wilkipedia about the SIATA.  On the current page the "RED" links  "have no page"  but at the bottom is a link that will get you to the links below.  The first one has lots of pictures and ads for the various SIATA's.  The second one has copies of articles and race programs from the early 50's till ?  Did not have time to check it all out as we leave for Europe tomorrow and will be gone for about twelve days.  Go check out the race programs and write ups.  Also a R&T road test of the SIATA 208S and the 2nd Torrey Pines Road Race here in San Diego were I was fortunate enough to see Phil Hill and a number of other "lesser know" drivers of the time race.

http://www.ferrariexperts.com/siata%20etceterini%20cars.htm

http://ferrariexperts.com/SCCA%20results%201952.htm#TO1

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) - in storage
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes - in storage

On Jul 23, 2010, at 11:34 AM, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siata
> 
> ...bill in corvallis
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From lindlaw at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 23 14:52:04 2010
From: lindlaw at yahoo.com (Ed Lindley)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:52:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting (no LBC)
Message-ID: <214929.46869.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Cannot find my Haynes manual for wife's 98 Camry.  I recsll there was a section re diagnosis using ign.switch, jumper wire (?) and counting flashes.  "Check Eng" lite is on, and I already checked gas cap on tight, oil  and water levels and temp all OK.

   Anyone out there know thisd info and can share? I reaally donb;t want to buy another Haynes if I can avoid it.

   Ed in SD

From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 23 15:15:02 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:15:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Help - Air Filter for dual carbs.
Message-ID: <534961.77900.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 
Group,
 
I have been looking at Air Filters for dual SU 1.25 carburetors.
 
There is the pan cake style which you need two.
When change elements you also need two.
I have been running this style on my motor.
The ones i have are throw away units.
Meaning you can not remove parts to clean the filter element
They have paper elements - i used a brush & vacuum to clean in the past.
At this point really need to be replaced.
 
K&N has a 56-1630 - Same style better quality -
You can clean the unit or replace the filter element.
The original cost for the units are $58 each.
To replace both elements in the future is $52
 
I started poking around and found one that does both carburetors at the same
time.
There appears to be more breathing room and air flow to both carburetors.
It looks like it is very easy to clean or replace the element.
My problem is: They have Midget cast into the cover. I drive a Morris Minor.
I wrote to the shop in the UK. There reply was - only one in that style.
 
Any one know of this style air cleaner that has a plain cover with no logo.
 
Thanks for your help -
 
Vigil

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 15:17:40 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:17:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilFBQ64JPFmrAWUiMpKKdNqsZMtAIQWxVYHdble@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
	<613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>
	<AANLkTil612cSu2YXxLQnBrMyEX7D_Bevk7TpmC3sxDZ1@mail.gmail.com>
	<0711997A34BC419EA2DE787DA9F9761E@HomePC>
	<AANLkTilFBQ64JPFmrAWUiMpKKdNqsZMtAIQWxVYHdble@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=pMy0xBRigrJOXCDpJt=Xdh9oeB+JQs+25NdR7@mail.gmail.com>

Fortunately it doesn't work very well, if at all.  I was experimenting after
seeing You Tube demonstrations.

Consider my failed attempt as destroyed!



Kirk

On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:22 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I'm a law abiding citizen and I have a suppressor.  It makes
> shooting quieter, more pleasant.
>
> Actually the more commonly used term to describe full auto weapons,
> suppressors, SBRs, AOWs, etc. is "NFA item".
> They are acquired through Class 3 FFL dealers and are regulated by the NFA.
> If you google "class 3 items" you'll get more NFA type hits than you
> would if you googled "title 2 items".
> Title 2 is another term for NFA.  Class 3, NFA, and Title 2 are used
> interchangeably by buyers and sellers of NFA items.
>
>
> You may be right about the wording of the law but I doubt you can find
> one precedent where someone was convicted of possessing a legal NFA
> item while in company of the legal owner.
>
> You probably cannot find one single incident of a legally possessed
> NFA item being used in a crime.
>
> You're right, no one "needs" a silencer.  No one "needs" a car.
> Certainly no one needs more than one car, right?  No one "needs" to
> drink alcohol.
> What everyone needs is personal responsibility and integrity.

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 15:31:18 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:31:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Silencio
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLNXAgQL7uAoKZCTnE27vTSJ0Dz-mrP_=Vx6it@mail.gmail.com>

After sending out my failed attempt to make a silencer for a 22 rifle. . .
it was interesting to read all of the different responses.

Only a group such as the Spridgets List would be able to cover all the
bases. .  everything from the full on legalities of such a device (which was
interesting) to instructions as to how to actually make one that works!

I crushed the little tube anyhow.   Those emails could make a guy paranoid.
.  like the next time the doorbell rings they are coming to take me away.

I originally got interested in trying to do this by way of You Tube videos I
ran across showing how they are made.

Thanks for all the input.

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 15:55:50 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:55:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
Message-ID: <AANLkTimNKDbpMfFo5HyE6SC-b-f5knOvOuJXDL5vBKdT@mail.gmail.com>

Throw them in the pool. . watch em walk on water.  Tie fire crackers to
their tales when I was a 12 year old kid with my step brother.

But after so many years of being married to "Cat Woman" they began to grow
on me.

I actually have a cat that I like. .  and this is the first one that I have
actually begun to like, after 36 years of marriage to "Cat Lady."   (We have
two cats and a white English Bull Terrier. .  think "Spuds McKenzie").

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 15:58:51 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:58:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 69 "Bugeye"
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=A6wspVvRkVepCsp7F9Ga5DmZiyusUZriXiz_1@mail.gmail.com>

Note that the seller who calls his car a 1969 Bugeye also has 0 transactions
on eBay.

No track record. .  . pretty scary.

Kirk

190422362877

From pilotrob at msn.com  Fri Jul 23 16:53:05 2010
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:53:05 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Help - Air Filter for dual
	carbs.
Message-ID: <SNT135-ds130DCD01D22FA0DFD4C742D4A30@phx.gbl>

These might still be available in "plain" (no script).

APT may not have them, but they should be able to point the way??

Or mayhap....Ed at justbrits?

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 5:15 PM
To: spridgets, Sprite, Midget/Sprite
Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Help - Air Filter for dual carbs.

o?=
Group,
o?=
I have been looking at Air Filters for dual SU 1.25 carburetors.
o?=
There is the pan cake style which you need two.
When change elements you also need two.
I have been running this style on my motor.
The ones i have are throw away units.
Meaning you can not remove parts to clean the filter element
They have paper elements - i used a brush & vacuum to clean in the past.
At this point really need to be replaced.
o?=
K&N has a 56-1630 - Same style better quality -
You can clean the unit or replace the filter element.
The original cost for the units are $58 each.
To replace both elements in the futureo?=is $52
o?=
Io?=started poking around and found oneo?=that does botho?=carburetors at the
same time.
There appears to be more breathing room and air flow to both carburetors.
Ito?=looks like it iso?=very easy to clean or replace the element.
My problem is:o?=They have Midget cast into the cover. I drive a Morris
Minor.
I wrote to the shop in the UK. There replyo?=was - only one in that style.
o?=
Any one know of this style air cleaner that has a plain cover with no logo.
o?=
Thanks for your help -
o?=
Vigil




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jul 23 17:40:11 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:40:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] S.I.A.T.A
In-Reply-To: <322350.72252.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <322350.72252.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C4A285B.1030204@justbrits.com>

<< Jim still had the TC he bought new and raced ever since.

http://henry-wessells-iii.memory-of.com/ShowPicPopUp.aspx?PicId=5043915&SiteId=84644

Ron >>

<sigh>

"Proper" sports cars  INDEED, 'Hopper.

Thanks !!

Ed

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 17:59:10 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:59:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=pMy0xBRigrJOXCDpJt=Xdh9oeB+JQs+25NdR7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinjoaZbgGF91pv-8eimqUv3da7fvi6ZtMywwl3o@mail.gmail.com>
	<613A1F4E2FBC43C588E790A9C7E075D5@HomePC>
	<AANLkTil612cSu2YXxLQnBrMyEX7D_Bevk7TpmC3sxDZ1@mail.gmail.com>
	<0711997A34BC419EA2DE787DA9F9761E@HomePC>
	<AANLkTilFBQ64JPFmrAWUiMpKKdNqsZMtAIQWxVYHdble@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=pMy0xBRigrJOXCDpJt=Xdh9oeB+JQs+25NdR7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim8TZj-YJK4xnKV52UwFk=dZ-GTYdNO8SS2cMKs@mail.gmail.com>

People make "Lead Dust Collectors" for pellet guns which are
suppressors (as per ATF) that air gun people buy/sell "ignorantly".
Gamo makes the Whisper, which is a pellet gun with a suppressor but
the suppressor is permanently attached to the barrel and therefore
legal.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 23 19:21:55 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:21:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <214929.46869.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <214929.46869.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <90FCF187E7184731AE8E9BBA0D038ADE@spider>

This isn't it ...but a start. ...bill
http://www.automotiveforums.com/t309596.html
==================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Lindley
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:52 PM
To: 1 Auto-Locost_North_America at yahoogroups.com; 1-AH-9issa;
1-Midget/Sprite; 1-Spridgets; 1-Toyota
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting (no LBC)

Cannot find my Haynes manual for wife's 98 Camry.  I recall there was a
section re diagnosis using ign.switch, jumper wire (?) and counting flashes.
"Check Eng" light is on, and I already checked gas cap on tight, oil and
water levels and temp all OK.

   Anyone out there know this info and can share? I really don't want to buy
another Haynes if I can avoid it.

   Ed in SD
_______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 23 19:27:09 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:27:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting (no LBC)
In-Reply-To: <214929.46869.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <214929.46869.qm@web50605.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <710EA511CF1E4BB8A3A9924A398523A5@spider>

This is a little better, but you have to join to get the images. ...bill
http://www.justanswer.com/questions/31xok-1988-camry-3sfe-how-to-find-the-tr
ouble-codes
=====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Lindley
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 1:52 PM
To: 1 Auto-Locost_North_America at yahoogroups.com; 1-AH-9issa;
1-Midget/Sprite; 1-Spridgets; 1-Toyota
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting (no LBC)

Cannot find my Haynes manual for wife's 98 Camry.  I recsll there was a
section re diagnosis using ign.switch, jumper wire (?) and counting flashes.
"Check Eng" lite is on, and I already checked gas cap on tight, oil  and
water levels and temp all OK.

   Anyone out there know thisd info and can share? I reaally donb;t want to
buy another Haynes if I can avoid it.

   Ed in SD
_______________________________________________

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Fri Jul 23 19:27:58 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:27:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting (no LBC)
Message-ID: <54c601cb2acf$72ed9200$0168010a@mail2world.com>

Not sure that applies to an OBDII car (anything post-'95). I broke down
and bought a code reader, which also resets the light. 

-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Ed Lindley [lindlaw at yahoo.com]
>Sent: 7/23/2010 4:52:04 PM
>To:
>1-Locost_North_America at yahoogroups.com;9issa at justbrits.com;midgetsprite
@yahoogroups.com;spridgets at autox.team.net;classictoyotatown at yahoogroups.
com
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting (no LBC)
>
>Cannot find my Haynes manual for wife's 98 Camry. I recsll there was a
section
>re diagnosis using ign.switch, jumper wire (?) and counting flashes.
"Check
>Eng" lite is on, and I already checked gas cap on tight, oil and water
levels
>and temp all OK.
>
> Anyone out there know thisd info and can share? I reaally donb;t want
to buy
>another Haynes if I can avoid it.
>
> Ed in SD
>_______________________________________________
>
>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>.

From nases at verizon.net  Fri Jul 23 19:41:07 2010
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:41:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage GP
Message-ID: <0ECEF230-B85B-4A5E-97B2-FA400A851517@verizon.net>

Anyone on the list racing or watching the racing this week?  It's my first
time here and I'm looking forward to seeing it.

It's incredibly hot. I can't imagine what it's like in the cars.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA

From gajdopolis at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 23 20:37:28 2010
From: gajdopolis at yahoo.com (Peter Gajdosik)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:37:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye f.s.
Message-ID: <638495.16566.qm@web114604.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

  
Listers - 

I will be putting my 1960 Bugeye up for sale shortly due to
pending purchase of 
a slightly more modern classic.  Car was restored by
myself in 1999 starting 
with a very straight, rust free (practically)
California car with a 1275 and low 
mileage ribcase. Every component restored
or rebuilt.   Asking price is $12K.  
Photos and spec sheet on request, if
interested please contact me off-list.  Car 
is in North Haven, CT.  Thanks. 
Pete Gajdosik

From abcoz at hky.com  Fri Jul 23 21:22:14 2010
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:22:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage GP
In-Reply-To: <0ECEF230-B85B-4A5E-97B2-FA400A851517@verizon.net>
References: <0ECEF230-B85B-4A5E-97B2-FA400A851517@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <ABB51036FC4540B297EA9F83EE03949E@OwnerPC>

I've never missed it.  I'll be there (spectating) tomorrow and Sunday.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Nase" <nases at verizon.net>
To: "net Spridgets at autox. team. Net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:41 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage GP


> Anyone on the list racing or watching the racing this week?  It's my first
> time here and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
>
> It's incredibly hot. I can't imagine what it's like in the cars.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> _______________________________________________
>
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jul 23 21:30:46 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 22:30:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage GP
In-Reply-To: <0ECEF230-B85B-4A5E-97B2-FA400A851517@verizon.net>
References: <0ECEF230-B85B-4A5E-97B2-FA400A851517@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4C4A5E66.9020707@justbrits.com>

<< It's incredibly hot. >>

Wait 'til youse gets what I sent you TODAY, Phil !!!!

Hint:  NOT a snow storm nor temps that go with one <G> !!!

Anon

From herby at herbytoys.com  Fri Jul 23 21:37:28 2010
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:37:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Anybody know..
Message-ID: <51DE6EEA27A54A2E91F027300832BBA3@HERBYZ>

..anything about and Ian Gray in the U.K.? He's inquiring about my Sprite
and with all the issues of distant and fraudulent buyers I thought I'd ask
the list about him. He's presenting himself as being from Stuart Taylor LTD,
Spring Farm, 50 Berryhedge Lane, Winshill, Burton on Trent. There some info
for a Stuart Taylor LTD with an Ian Gray as the contact.
http://www.f1-67.com/index.html

 

So does anyone know him or heard of him? UK listers? Just want to make sure
he's who he says he is.

 

TIA

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (For Sale)
62 MKII Sprite (Now Herbytoy)
00 Dakota R/T (the DD toy)
herby at herbytoys.com

www.herbytoys.com

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jul 23 22:52:48 2010
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:52:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Help - Air Filter for dual carbs.
In-Reply-To: <mailman.32889.1279941683.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.32889.1279941683.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4C4A71A0.7070406@sbcglobal.net>

Virgil,

You want part #3-177 from Victoria British.
They fit a Mk1 or Mk3 Spitfire. On page 90 of the Spit catalog.
Moss does not carry this part.

Looks just like the K&N, but disposable.

Lee

Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:15:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: <uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Help - Air Filter for dual carbs.
To: spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>, Sprite
	<bugeye at yahoogroups.com>, Midget/Sprite <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Message-ID: <534961.77900.qm at web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Group,

I have been looking at Air Filters for dual SU 1.25 carburetors.

There is the pan cake style which you need two.
When change elements you also need two.
I have been running this style on my motor.
The ones i have are throw away units.
Meaning you can not remove parts to clean the filter element
They have paper elements - i used a brush & vacuum to clean in the past.
At this point really need to be replaced.

K&N has a 56-1630 - Same style better quality -
You can clean the unit or replace the filter element.
The original cost for the units are $58 each.
To replace both elements in the future is $52

I started poking around and found one that does both carburetors at the same
time.
There appears to be more breathing room and air flow to both carburetors.
It looks like it is very easy to clean or replace the element.
My problem is: They have Midget cast into the cover. I drive a Morris Minor.
I wrote to the shop in the UK. There reply was - only one in that style.

Any one know of this style air cleaner that has a plain cover with no logo.

Thanks for your help -

Vigil

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jul 23 22:58:45 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:58:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] silencers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimVOpp0_Wi1tDCC2WX3rklfMw1MrialcJ0uwbgt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <275901cb2a32$7b3f52b0$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTimx8v+iY_8tODDojpjwMg9po=st8+t+=B6P3jH7@mail.gmail.com>
	<790568.26796.qm@web114119.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTimVOpp0_Wi1tDCC2WX3rklfMw1MrialcJ0uwbgt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikPHkC6P-cLsM-z+fopFwz1ODEtAF76Ph9G_q4y@mail.gmail.com>

A Barrett M82A1 doesn't need a silencer. By the time the sound reaches your
target they won't be hearing anything anymore. The Winchester 700 Stealth
will do the same trick with the 7.62x51 NATO round. Who needs a silencer?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:27 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <
rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

> If you are talking about handguns, I agree.  Using subsonic .22s, the 26"
> barrel on my .22 pump action rifle absorb the noise due to the length of
> the
> barrel to the point it is virtually silent.  All I can hear is the hammer
> hitting the receiver and just the faintest of noise from the muzzle.  Any
> distance, such as next door, this would be completely silent.  I have had
> pellet guns and they make a rather sharp popping noise on firing.  A pellet
> gun would definitely be heard next door.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Dan Dwelley <maine2me at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Aside from the "cool" factor...subsonic .22 rounds through a suppressor
> > still
> > sound like a noisy pellet gun. The only round that is truly silent, when
> > fired
> > through a suppressor, is the .22 short. You will hear the hammer fall and
> > the
> > smack of the bullet hitting the target.
> > Oh...any air space between the bullet and the barrel (like a revolver)
> > negates
> > the suppressor action. (Watch the movies and see someone screw a
> suppressor
> > onto
> > a revolver...WRONG!!!! :o)
> >
> > Ditto on the manufacture and use...Don't do it! Get a license first and
> > avoid
> > the legal issues!
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> > To: Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au>
> > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Sent: Fri, July 23, 2010 5:41:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] silencers
> >
> > Those would be illegal here. No spring loaded/assisted weapons allowed.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > We don't need them Down Under.
> > >
> > > A spear with a woomera is dealy silent.
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2g735tk
> > >
> > > avagopodday
> > > Colin
> > > www.SpriteParts.com.au
> _______________________________________________
>
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>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Sat Jul 24 05:04:28 2010
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:04:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage GP
In-Reply-To: <0ECEF230-B85B-4A5E-97B2-FA400A851517@verizon.net>
References: <0ECEF230-B85B-4A5E-97B2-FA400A851517@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <6AB67E3E-277D-472C-BBCC-E3C2094F478F@hoppetool.com>

My grandfathers running in group 6. Number 168 with the half bugeye half
midget!! Feel free to say hi his name is Gary!

Sincerely,

Matt Hagopian

On Jul 23, 2010, at 9:41 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> Anyone on the list racing or watching the racing this week?  It's my first
> time here and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
>
> It's incredibly hot. I can't imagine what it's like in the cars.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> Unsubscribe/Manage:
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From conen at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul 24 05:23:43 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 04:23:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Troubleshooting (no lbc)
Message-ID: <608542.28398.qm@web180210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

  Many of the auto parts stores have a code reader and will read your trouble codes for you for free.  I know Advance Auto Parts stores will. ('95 and newer)  Only takes a few minutes.
  Ed in NC

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 09:03:14 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
Message-ID: <796920.79992.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Trying to shift the discussion from silencers.  (IMHO shooting, fast cars and
rock bands lose a lot of their appeal when you try to tone them down, which
prolly explains why I can't hear dick.)  Here's a rather depressing look at 22
reasons why the middle class is on borrowed time:  http://tinyurl.com/2clrhs7 
This pretty much sums it up:

"The reality is that no matter how smart, how strong, how educated or how
hard working American workers are, they just cannot compete with people
 who
are desperate to put in 10 to 12 hour days at less than a dollar an
 hour on
the other side of the world."


Rick


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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 24 09:45:42 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:45:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
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With smaller or no middle class, there is nothing to keep the bottom class
from taking out the rich and super rich. :-(  ...bill in corvallis

=========================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 8:03 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?

 

Trying to shift the discussion from silencers.  (IMHO shooting, fast cars
and

rock bands lose a lot of their appeal when you try to tone them down, which

prolly explains why I can't hear dick.)  Here's a rather depressing look at
22

reasons why the middle class is on borrowed time:
http://tinyurl.com/2clrhs7

 

 

This pretty much sums it up:

 

"The reality is that no matter how smart, how strong, how educated or how

hard working American workers are, they just cannot compete with people

 who are desperate to put in 10 to 12 hour days at less than a dollar an

 hour on the other side of the world."

 

Rick

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 10:03:06 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 09:03:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] New Website/Forum
Message-ID: <953757.67787.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I'm liking this new website/forum that focuses on the kind of varied
automobile interests that a lot of us share: 
http://www.dogfightmag.com/forum/  Don't worry about the name, no pictures of
pit bulls or Michael Vick.

Rick


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From jackson.skip at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 11:24:28 2010
From: jackson.skip at yahoo.com (Skip Jackson)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:24:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
Message-ID: <938208.11595.qm@web46412.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If the middle class disappears then everyone will move up one class.  The
upper 
poor will be the lower rich.  The middle poor will be the upper poor.
And so 
on!! 

It will be much easier to get rich because we will not have to
work our way 
through the middle class.  It all works quite well.  Those with
two or 
more Sprites will be rich, those with only one will be poor. Skip  J.
BE 37190

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Jul 24 11:37:23 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 13:37:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
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>they just cannot compete with people who are desperate to put in 10 to 12 
>hour days at less than a dollar an hour

And it is not really exploitation in their view, since they would otherwise 
put 10 to 12 hours days for even less money.  From  their perspective, these 
are really good jobs.

To go with this thread, I read in the NY Times that many factories are 
trying to start hiring again, but the factory jobs have become more 
thechnical - mechanized and computerized.  One person interviewed said they 
had something like 3500 applicants and only found 47 who were minimally 
qualified (not sure of the exact numbers), when they needed many more. 
They had to have nineth grade math skills and be able to read blueprints. 
This is not rocket science that requires a college degree; this is basic 
high school stuff.  What a sad commentary on our culture and educational 
system.

Michael Rowe 

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 24 13:09:26 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:09:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <507ACE14E55F428D853752641078623B@Home>
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	<507ACE14E55F428D853752641078623B@Home>
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http://tinyurl.com/262bmta
...bill in corvallis
==========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:37 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?

>they just cannot compete with people who are desperate to put in 10 to 12 
>hour days at less than a dollar an hour

And it is not really exploitation in their view, since they would otherwise 
put 10 to 12 hours days for even less money.  From  their perspective, these

are really good jobs.

To go with this thread, I read in the NY Times that many factories are 
trying to start hiring again, but the factory jobs have become more 
technical - mechanized and computerized.  One person interviewed said they 
had something like 3500 applicants and only found 47 who were minimally 
qualified (not sure of the exact numbers), when they needed many more. 
They had to have ninth grade math skills and be able to read blueprints. 
This is not rocket science that requires a college degree; this is basic 
high school stuff.  What a sad commentary on our culture and educational 
system.

Michael Rowe 
_______________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jul 24 13:43:03 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 14:43:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <507ACE14E55F428D853752641078623B@Home>
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

>   What a sad commentary on our culture and educational system.
>

Amen, Mike.   And it started way more than 20 years ago and has been going
downhill ever since.  In 1990 & 1991 I taught a basic meteorology course
(freshman level - no calculus) in our local 2 year school. What a fiasco!
The students couldn't read well, couldn't write worth a damn, didn't have
even basic math skills (High School Algebra & basic Trig). Worst of all,
they wouldn't come to me for help and they wouldn't do homework and they
moaned about how hard I was on them!

It was so bad that in the second semester I spent the first 3 weeks teaching
some very simple algebra concepts just to help get them through the math
they'd encounter later in the course!  Even at that, I had to flunk more
than half the class. I had irate parents calling me day and night screaming
that I was being WAY too hard on their little darlings. I told them I'm not
going to say their kid knew something about the science when they clearly
didn't. It's not only good for them to wake up to the fact that they didn't
learn much, its also a matter of my pride and the schools quality rating.

4 semesters and the regents asked me to quit because I was being too hard on
the kids. I asked the physics and math profs for their take...  They agreed
I wasn't being hard on the kids - in their experience most of the kids were
lazy and felt that they should be just GIVEN a passing grade for coming to
class. The whole department went to the dean of instruction on my behalf.
They agreed that I could come back provided I dumbed the course down so that
the little morons could get through it. I refused thus then end of my
teaching career.

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 24 14:18:36 2010
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:18:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: What A Man's Garage Should Look Like
In-Reply-To: <4C4AF094.000001.02008@GARDNER-PC>
Message-ID: <1710794780.369639.1280002716282.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Just took a few pictures of my garage.B  Check it out.

--David C.
B Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the
faster it goes.





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To: "Anne Marie" <apanzica at aol.com>, "Brenetta" <fancibee at yahoo.com>, "Carol
Susan" <imsherbert at yahoo.com>, "Caroline" <carolinebm92 at yahoo.com>, "Denny"
<dennyh at insightbb.com>, "Don Ledden" <dledden at centurytel.net>, "Fergo"
<dlancer7676 at comcast.net>, "Gary Jones" <gjones1028 at gmail.com>, "Jack &
Marilyn Thomas" <jmartinthomas at yahoo.com>, "Joe Eslami"
<j.eslami at insightbb.com>, "Joyce & Gary" <jcruble at suddenlink.net>, "Kim
Wilson" <kjwilsonky at hotmail.com>, "Michael Curtis" <michaelvcurtis at msn.com>,
"Pat" <honeylex1 at insightbb.com>, "Paula" <paulascanlon at bresnan.net>, "Phody"
<paweaver at bellsouth.net>, "Sharon Sanders" <123sharon at windstream.net>,
"Stephen & Lesley" <tufkookie at insightbb.com>, "Tom Fields"
<SmokeyStover2 at webtv.net>, "Tom Hunt" <gtomrad at qx.net>, "Tom Norman"
<megatau7 at fuse.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 9:54:29 AM
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Jul 24 17:26:37 2010
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:26:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin_STmVPatMA0Rj_62qF2pK=1ZRFQJU7=tdqamv@mail.gmail.com>
References: <796920.79992.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com><507ACE14E55F428D853752641078623B@Home>
	<AANLkTin_STmVPatMA0Rj_62qF2pK=1ZRFQJU7=tdqamv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B96D44B5E0D941B0A0F014206A5DC8EC@HomePC>

All goes to show: Jim Johnson is a mean bastard.

Jim's buddy, ED.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:43 PM
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

>   What a sad commentary on our culture and educational system.
>

Amen, Mike.   And it started way more than 20 years ago and has been going
downhill ever since.  In 1990 & 1991 I taught a basic meteorology course
(freshman level - no calculus) in our local 2 year school. What a fiasco!
The students couldn't read well, couldn't write worth a damn, didn't have
even basic math skills (High School Algebra & basic Trig). Worst of all,
they wouldn't come to me for help and they wouldn't do homework and they
moaned about how hard I was on them!

It was so bad that in the second semester I spent the first 3 weeks teaching
some very simple algebra concepts just to help get them through the math
they'd encounter later in the course!  Even at that, I had to flunk more
than half the class. I had irate parents calling me day and night screaming
that I was being WAY too hard on their little darlings. I told them I'm not
going to say their kid knew something about the science when they clearly
didn't. It's not only good for them to wake up to the fact that they didn't
learn much, its also a matter of my pride and the schools quality rating.

4 semesters and the regents asked me to quit because I was being too hard on
the kids. I asked the physics and math profs for their take...  They agreed
I wasn't being hard on the kids - in their experience most of the kids were
lazy and felt that they should be just GIVEN a passing grade for coming to
class. The whole department went to the dean of instruction on my behalf.
They agreed that I could come back provided I dumbed the course down so that
the little morons could get through it. I refused thus then end of my
teaching career.

--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Jul 24 17:37:02 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:37:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <8F075E68A17B4885AAD7D6497BD90E0E@spider>
Message-ID: <C870C72E.2909C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

No matter what class is left, I still won't fit into it.
BZ

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sat Jul 24 18:12:58 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:12:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: What A Man's Garage Should Look Like
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Location of pics????


Leo

-----Original Message-----
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dlancer7676 at comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:19 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: What A Man's Garage Should Look Like

Just took a few pictures of my garage.B  Check it out.

--David C.
B Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the
faster it goes.





----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Mike Gardner" <deanolex at insightbb.com>
To: "Anne Marie" <apanzica at aol.com>, "Brenetta" <fancibee at yahoo.com>, "Carol
Susan" <imsherbert at yahoo.com>, "Caroline" <carolinebm92 at yahoo.com>, "Denny"
<dennyh at insightbb.com>, "Don Ledden" <dledden at centurytel.net>, "Fergo"
<dlancer7676 at comcast.net>, "Gary Jones" <gjones1028 at gmail.com>, "Jack &
Marilyn Thomas" <jmartinthomas at yahoo.com>, "Joe Eslami"
<j.eslami at insightbb.com>, "Joyce & Gary" <jcruble at suddenlink.net>, "Kim
Wilson" <kjwilsonky at hotmail.com>, "Michael Curtis" <michaelvcurtis at msn.com>,
"Pat" <honeylex1 at insightbb.com>, "Paula" <paulascanlon at bresnan.net>, "Phody"
<paweaver at bellsouth.net>, "Sharon Sanders" <123sharon at windstream.net>,
"Stephen & Lesley" <tufkookie at insightbb.com>, "Tom Fields"
<SmokeyStover2 at webtv.net>, "Tom Hunt" <gtomrad at qx.net>, "Tom Norman"
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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 18:53:27 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <C870C72E.2909C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <979589.28374.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

C'mon, Billy.  There'll always be an outcast!

Rick


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--- On Sat, 7/24/10, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:37 PM

No matter what class is left, I still won't fit into it.
BZ
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 24 20:09:07 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:09:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
In-Reply-To: <C870C72E.2909C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <8F075E68A17B4885AAD7D6497BD90E0E@spider>
	<C870C72E.2909C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
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http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1810789892.html

So he's got a Herald for sale that is rusted into the ground. Wonderful.

But scroll down those pictures.

He's got a bunch of other sports cars that he's planted into the field
So they can rust away too.

Why do they do that?  Is it some sort of disease?

And while I'm at it...
I hate this guy and all his kind as well...
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/1849860813.html


"I have the frame against my garage wall with holes in my ceiling and my
work bench built around it."


Can someone stop these people before they destroy more fine examples?

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Jul 24 20:12:50 2010
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:12:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
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> C'mon, Billy.  There'll always be an outcast!

Sure, but will there be room for all of us?
David L

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Jul 24 20:52:11 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:52:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rossi
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As mentioned to me as a "bone headed" thing to be doing. . .

At the time, watching the You Tube videos . I was curious too see if I could
make one work.

Now that it has been brought to my attention it was as bone headed as, "Hey,
I think I will mix up my own formula for C4 and see if it explodes."


Thanks,

Kirk

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 4:59 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> People make "Lead Dust Collectors" for pellet guns which are
> suppressors (as per ATF) that air gun people buy/sell "ignorantly".
> Gamo makes the Whisper, which is a pellet gun with a suppressor but
> the suppressor is permanently attached to the barrel and therefore
> legal.

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Jul 24 21:19:14 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:19:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <B96D44B5E0D941B0A0F014206A5DC8EC@HomePC>
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Interesting coincidence...wasn't that about the same time the global warming
stuff started ramping up?
Don't mess with Jim.



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:27 PM
To: Jim Johnson
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?

All goes to show: Jim Johnson is a mean bastard.

Jim's buddy, ED.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 21:58:10 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
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Always room on the short bus with the rest of us, David.

Rick


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--- On Sat, 7/24/10, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 10:12 PM

> C'mon, Billy.  There'll always be an outcast!

Sure, but will there be room for all of us?
David L
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From uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 22:09:09 2010
From: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com (uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:09:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
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Are they paying that to take them away.......lol

--- On Sat, 7/24/10, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:09 PM


http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1810789892.html

So he's got a Herald for sale that is rusted into the ground. Wonderful.

But scroll down those pictures.

He's got a bunch of other sports cars that he's planted into the field
So they can rust away too.

Why do they do that?  Is it some sort of disease?

And while I'm at it...
I hate this guy and all his kind as well...
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/1849860813.html


"I have the frame against my garage wall with holes in my ceiling and my
work bench built around it."


Can someone stop these people before they destroy more fine examples?
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 22:56:08 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:56:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <507ACE14E55F428D853752641078623B@Home>
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--- On Sat, 7/24/10, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> school
stuff.  What a sad commentary on our culture and
> educational system.

Or a
sad commentary on our recruiting skills. The new grads I interview are
overqualified for a lot of involving NC programming, Visual basic, or any
database work. The level of math and science skills I have seen are impressive
for any technical degree. My kid is doing FFTs in high school, and we live in
the styx.

Ron

and it's spelled "ninth", not "nineth"

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 24 23:14:20 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 01:14:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimNKDbpMfFo5HyE6SC-b-f5knOvOuJXDL5vBKdT@mail.gmail.com>
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I have tried to catch my kitty who's scared in the wild for 8 days now, many
nights sleeping in my car or a tent. I am so sad I can't get my cat back
LBC's don't interest me anymore : (
I am truly devastated and frustrated. If she were dead it would be over I
would cry and bury her and it would be over but this is truly breaking my
heart.
Lin

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Throw them in the pool. . watch em walk on water.  Tie fire crackers to
> their tales when I was a 12 year old kid with my step brother.
>
> But after so many years of being married to "Cat Woman" they began to grow
> on me.
>
> I actually have a cat that I like. .  and this is the first one that I have
> actually begun to like, after 36 years of marriage to "Cat Lady."   (We
> have
> two cats and a white English Bull Terrier. .  think "Spuds McKenzie").
>
> Kirk
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 24 23:22:57 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 22:22:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Anybody know..
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Believe it or not, my brother-in-law's name is Ian Gray. He and his wife (my
almost-ex's younger sis) live near Portsmouth. I'm sure he's not your guy -
just 
thought it funny that another guy with the same name would show up here.
My Ian 
is a retired Royal Navy Gunny and a truly stand-up guy. Hope yours is
as 
trustworthy as the one I know. (and more so than his sister-in-law)

David
Booker
Long Island




________________________________
From: Herby
<herby at herbytoys.com>
To: spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, July
23, 2010 11:37:28 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Anybody know..

..anything about and
Ian Gray in the U.K.? He's inquiring about my Sprite
and with all the issues
of distant and fraudulent buyers I thought I'd ask
the list about him. He's
presenting himself as being from Stuart Taylor LTD,
Spring Farm, 50 Berryhedge
Lane, Winshill, Burton on Trent. There some info
for a Stuart Taylor LTD with
an Ian Gray as the contact.
http://www.f1-67.com/index.html



So does anyone
know him or heard of him? UK listers? Just want to make sure
he's who he says
he is.



TIA

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (For Sale)
62 MKII Sprite (Now Herbytoy)
00 Dakota R/T (the DD toy)
herby at herbytoys.com

www.herbytoys.com
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jul 25 00:14:52 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 23:14:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
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Isn't that a bit damp ??  ;-)

-- 
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'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 24 Jul 2010 at 21:56, Ron Soave wrote:

> and we live in the styx.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jul 25 06:37:54 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:37:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
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You guys don't get it.
They are FARMERS.
Farmers PLANT crops.
So if you plant a Herald, maybe a bunch of Heralds will grow.
I know for a fact that Sprites populate all by themselves at my house ;)



> http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1810789892.html
>
> So he's got a Herald for sale that is rusted into the ground.




-- 
Frank

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 07:09:57 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:09:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
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Apparently not as far out in the sticks as me...   We have a hand full of
kids every year in the High School that graduate with honors AND an
associate degree from the community college at the same time!  The rest are
certifiably illiterate. What percentage of your kid's peers are doing FFTs?

Out here I can find plenty of kids who know how to drive a combine or clean
out the straw walkers on one. Try finding one that can add 2 and 2 and come
up with 4!  Getting change at McDonalds is the ultimate adventure around
here. We should start a theme park!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> > school
> stuff.  What a sad commentary on our culture and
> > educational system.
>
> Or a
> sad commentary on our recruiting skills. The new grads I interview are
> overqualified for a lot of involving NC programming, Visual basic, or any
> database work. The level of math and science skills I have seen are
> impressive
> for any technical degree. My kid is doing FFTs in high school, and we live
> in
> the styx.
>
> Ron
>
> and it's spelled "ninth", not "nineth"
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a
shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress."
        John Adams
        US diplomat & politician (1735 - 1826)

From bpazur at excel.net  Sun Jul 25 09:38:35 2010
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:38:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
Message-ID: <201007251538.o6PFcbYQ029955@green.excel.net>

God bless you and David Lieb - the only 'buds' I have any more are Mickey and
Ziggy.

Linda Grunthaner writes:

> I have tried to catch my kitty who's scared in the wild for 8 days now,
many
> nights sleeping in my car or a tent. I am so sad I can't get my cat back
> LBC's don't interest me anymore : (
> I am truly devastated and frustrated. If she were dead it would be over I
> would cry and bury her and it would be over but this is truly breaking my
> heart.
> Lin
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Kirk Hargreaves
> <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Throw them in the pool. . watch em walk on water.  Tie fire crackers to
> > their tales when I was a 12 year old kid with my step brother.
> >
> > But after so many years of being married to "Cat Woman" they began to
grow
> > on me.
> >
> > I actually have a cat that I like. .  and this is the first one that I
have
> > actually begun to like, after 36 years of marriage to "Cat Lady."   (We
> > have
> > two cats and a white English Bull Terrier. .  think "Spuds McKenzie").
> >
> > Kirk
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 09:45:36 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:45:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
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Don't say I didn't warn you about leaving two of 'em in the dark in the
garage overnight!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> I know for a fact that Sprites populate all by themselves at my house ;)

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 10:30:12 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:30:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: What A Man's Garage Should Look Like
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On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:18 PM,  <dlancer7676 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Just took a few pictures of my garage.B  Check it out.
>


Wow.  It'd take forever to get my garage that clean.


(BTW, you can't send pics thru this list)

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 11:13:18 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:13:18 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
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Same guy, price seems OK on this one:
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1805909776.html


He only wants a grand for the BMW 635
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1805955890.html

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 25 11:14:20 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:14:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
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Like old metal coat hangers used to; socks do the opposite. ...bill in
corvallis
===================================================
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Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:46 AM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?

Don't say I didn't warn you about leaving two of 'em in the dark in the
garage overnight!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Frank Clarici <spritenut at comcast.net>wrote:

> I know for a fact that Sprites populate all by themselves at my house ;)
_______________________________________________

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 11:44:34 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:44:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: What A Man's Garage Should Look Like
In-Reply-To: <1710794780.369639.1280002716282.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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Looks like a bad snow storm to me.

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jul 25 12:34:20 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:34:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
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Have you tried putting out a Humane trap with food and water and 
leaving the area for 24hrs??

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 25 Jul 2010 at 1:14, Linda Grunthaner wrote:

> I have tried to catch my kitty who's scared in the wild for 8 days now, many
> nights sleeping in my car or a tent. I am so sad I can't get my cat back
> LBC's don't interest me anymore : (

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 13:06:02 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:06:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinvN=UHtu5ME=ogE3vM+fYS8mvHBsON62PwhHZL@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTik=Ny0iEeiQ0XTZCUgCaTa2A6ZswS53bn019OFg@mail.gmail.com>

Linda,

The animal control people in our neck of the woods will loan a cat trap (we
give them a $60.0 deposit which is returned when we bring it back). .
harmless to the cat.  "Just add tuna."

It has worked for us before.

Kirk
PS
"I got cat fever and I got cat style."  (Brian Setzer)




On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> I have tried to catch my kitty who's scared in the wild for 8 days now,
> many nights sleeping in my car or a tent. I am so sad I can't get my cat
> back LBC's don't interest me anymore : (
> I am truly devastated and frustrated. If she were dead it would be over I
> would cry and bury her and it would be over but this is truly breaking my
> heart.
> Lin
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Throw them in the pool. . watch em walk on water.  Tie fire crackers to
>> their tales when I was a 12 year old kid with my step brother.
>>
>> But after so many years of being married to "Cat Woman" they began to grow
>> on me.
>>
>> I actually have a cat that I like. .  and this is the first one that I
>> have
>> actually begun to like, after 36 years of marriage to "Cat Lady."   (We
>> have
>> two cats and a white English Bull Terrier. .  think "Spuds McKenzie").
>>
>> Kirk
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 25 13:39:11 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 12:39:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
In-Reply-To: <A9F4877C02CF412BBECA029ABB33B30C@blackbox2>
References: <8F075E68A17B4885AAD7D6497BD90E0E@spider>
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	<A9F4877C02CF412BBECA029ABB33B30C@blackbox2>
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I'm speechless.... OMG.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Sat, July 24, 2010 7:09:07 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1810789892.html

So he's got a Herald for sale that is rusted into the ground. Wonderful.

But scroll down those pictures.

He's got a bunch of other sports cars that he's planted into the field
So they can rust away too.

Why do they do that?  Is it some sort of disease?

And while I'm at it...
I hate this guy and all his kind as well...
http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/1849860813.html


"I have the frame against my garage wall with holes in my ceiling and my
work bench built around it."


Can someone stop these people before they destroy more fine examples?
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From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Jul 25 13:44:12 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:44:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
In-Reply-To: <4C4C83AC.22582.F8B0EC@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <AANLkTimNKDbpMfFo5HyE6SC-b-f5knOvOuJXDL5vBKdT@mail.gmail.com>,
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	<4C4C83AC.22582.F8B0EC@kk7ss.verizon.net>
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<< Have you tried putting out a Humane trap with food and water and
leaving the area for 24hrs?? >>

Liable to get one of dem "Joisey TV cougars", Dave !!

NOT for 'girls' and old fa*ts like you <G> !!!

Anon

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 25 14:18:00 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought carnival midgets were a thing of the past...
Message-ID: <754378.35460.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

http://virginiabeach.ebayclassifieds.com/classic-cars/norfolk/1979-mg-midget/?ad=4814317&msg=OUT_OF_AREA


 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Jul 25 14:27:40 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:27:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik=Ny0iEeiQ0XTZCUgCaTa2A6ZswS53bn019OFg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C871EC4C.290F5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> harmless to the cat.  "Just add tuna."
But what do you do with all the possums and raccoons?

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 14:39:13 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:39:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
In-Reply-To: <4C4C940C.2030406@justbrits.com>
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	<4C4C83AC.22582.F8B0EC@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<4C4C940C.2030406@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=U+0ctb67VCBKkb3C2Xha8wrHDasdL4tagUR01@mail.gmail.com>

Harbor Freight has traps.  I'm just sayin.
You might have to fix them out of the box but they have them and I've
used them and they work.


On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Shop at " Just Brits "
<shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> << Have you tried putting out a Humane trap with food and water and
> leaving the area for 24hrs?? >>

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Jul 25 15:10:53 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:10:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought carnival midgets were a thing of the
 past...
In-Reply-To: <754378.35460.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C871F66D.290FB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I think the license plate frames are a bit much.

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Sun Jul 25 15:23:12 2010
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 14:23:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought carnival midgets were a thing of the
 past...
In-Reply-To: <754378.35460.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <725028.7461.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Interesting combination of side pipes and tail pipes.

Rick


Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo

--- On Sun, 7/25/10, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] I thought carnival midgets were a thing of the past...
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 4:18 PM

http://virginiabeach.ebayclassifieds.com/classic-cars/norfolk/1979-mg-midget/
?ad=4814317&msg=OUT_OF_AREA


 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jul 25 15:23:45 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:23:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
In-Reply-To: <C871EC4C.290F5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTik=Ny0iEeiQ0XTZCUgCaTa2A6ZswS53bn019OFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C871EC4C.290F5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimngL3BeeprDE7PyBegNkvr+esrxoUzDUOqGXok@mail.gmail.com>

I hear they all taste like chicken.

On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>> harmless to the cat.  "Just add tuna."
> But what do you do with all the possums and raccoons?

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 25 16:56:30 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:56:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Thou shalt not covet
In-Reply-To: <201007200745581.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <864208.2969.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<201007200616340.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<AANLkTik8PAtNzWYSk5t1NVy4C42LhTR47NRUWbmsVnTz@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTim3SelRZtw9Pxz1Lpcazl1i2OoqUTH4-huL9J4X@mail.gmail.com>,
	<201007200745581.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w532DA1C2E397EEBAAEF7F2C2A50@phx.gbl>

Do you have to take the car parts out first????

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!


> At 09:34 AM 7/20/2010, Jim Johnson wrote:
> >On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > You are from Jersey, just use the sink.
> > >
> >
> >Being from Jersey has other advantages. Not only can you use the sink, you
> >don't even have to take the dishes out of it.
>
> That's true!  because the guests from Kansas will think it's seafood.

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sun Jul 25 17:03:49 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:03:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred
In-Reply-To: <C871EC4C.290F5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <AANLkTik=Ny0iEeiQ0XTZCUgCaTa2A6ZswS53bn019OFg@mail.gmail.com>
	<C871EC4C.290F5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <000401cb2c4d$a5176970$ef463c50$@rr.com>

Hope they don't mate.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 3:28 PM
To: Kirk Hargreaves; Linda Grunthaner
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cat Hatred

> harmless to the cat.  "Just add tuna."
But what do you do with all the possums and raccoons?

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 25 17:05:26 2010
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:05:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>,
	<384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY145-w39E13034DC2EFAB3D7BDAEC2A50@phx.gbl>

Was watching a show on Speed the other day about the US Army sponsored, Tony
Schumacher driven, Top Fuel Dragster team.
As the were panning around the pit area, I got a glimpse of the 55 gal drum of
Nitromethane.
Plain as day on the middle of the drum - Made in China....VP fuels.
Doubt that those guys would put up with crappy quality.

Funny thing is that China CAN make good quality, if as others have said it it
spec'ed and inspected,
 but it will ultimately cost the US consumer almost as much as a US made
piece.
Got to keep those profits and stock prices high!!!

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 08:25:24 -0700
> From: soavero at yahoo.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
>
> Anyone go to the KIC at Road America yesterday and see the Fiat engined
Speedwell Sprite? End of LBC content...
>
> I have closely dealt with China as a manufacturer on a somewhat small basis
(I have never sent one job to China, I will say). It does not matter what you
specify - you go to China because you mass produce. When you mass produce, you
cannot inspect every unit, no matter how sophisticated your inspection
equipment. You have to do lot testing. This means you operate under the
assumption of 6 sigma process control, and if 1 is good, they're all good. It
doesn't always (ever?) work out. You can get hurt big time (the same thing can
happen in Detroit or Tokyo, by the way...read the newspapers). Something like
a one-off or limited volume run where you can watch closely and control
quality (insert guitar here), you actually pull off good quality, but without
the economic benefit.
>
> Companies (some real big ones) are starting to pull out of China because of
cost and quality. Cost is rising because the workers starting to get a whiff
of capitalism and demanding higher pay. Also the government is no longer
valuing their currency to the value of a dollar. China's political stability
is risky, which makes it a tough place to consider for long term investment in
currencies. Our debt (thank you Barry O for really putting it into the
stratosphere) endangers the dollar as being used as the standard in
International trade deals, but it still is - NOT the Yuan. Does this mean the
jobs are coming back to the US? A few, yes. Most, not yet. The economic
balance is so delicate it is incredible, or it would be very simple to just
provide economic incentive to do business here. I could get very
inappropriately political right now, but we need an administration that
actually likes US businesses, especially small entrepreneurial ones, and uses
smart
>  enough guys to figure out that balance. They're out there, but I digress.
>
> China is starting to outsource to Vietnam and Laos to address the cost
issue. Very complex stuff that can't get solved in an email.
>
> Too hot to LBC, and I really need to finish the last hour of prep for Joliet
race next weekend -
>
> Ron
> __________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul 25 17:59:30 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:59:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-w39E13034DC2EFAB3D7BDAEC2A50@phx.gbl>
References: <AANLkTimc31qmzUmMkA1KF1lpjsozaOX4-qorsl6Q4-gM@mail.gmail.com>,
	<384385.41657.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BAY145-w39E13034DC2EFAB3D7BDAEC2A50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2C99BEAF58244E059412BA099B675DB1@spider>

"We have met the enemy and he is us" (...bill in corvallis)
http://www.igopogo.com/we_have_met.htm
======================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of brian S
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:05 PM
To: spridgets list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chinese Manufacturers

Was watching a show on Speed the other day about the US Army sponsored, Tony
Schumacher driven, Top Fuel Dragster team.
As the were panning around the pit area, I got a glimpse of the 55 gal drum
of Nitro methane.
Plain as day on the middle of the drum - Made in China....VP fuels.
Doubt that those guys would put up with crappy quality.

Funny thing is that China CAN make good quality, if as others have said it
spec'ed and inspected,
 but it will ultimately cost the US consumer almost as much as a US made
piece.
Got to keep those profits and stock prices high!!!

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Jul 26 10:40:23 2010
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:40:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
In-Reply-To: <36416358DF8D4650A7BFF3530579F60C@spider>
References: <191475.49489.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4C4C3022.4040305@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTikaND5=pnNKVqYhYTg1RZz9Py+W2uhS99s6FaG1@mail.gmail.com>
	<36416358DF8D4650A7BFF3530579F60C@spider>
Message-ID: <4C4DBA77.7070209@frontiernet.net>

Actually, you shouldn't blame the poor innocent socks for the misdeeds 
of the evil gremlin that powers the washing machine. He captures one 
sock of a pair and holds it prisoner until you give up all hope of ever 
seeing it again and throw out the mate. Then it releases the hostage.

Kate


corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> Like old metal coat hangers used to; socks do the opposite. ...bill in
> corvallis

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Jul 26 12:04:50 2010
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:04:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
In-Reply-To: <4C4DBA77.7070209@frontiernet.net>
References: <191475.49489.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C4C3022.4040305@comcast.net>
	<AANLkTikaND5=pnNKVqYhYTg1RZz9Py+W2uhS99s6FaG1@mail.gmail.com>
	<36416358DF8D4650A7BFF3530579F60C@spider>
	<4C4DBA77.7070209@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <933BB06788714FDA86BC7C207E7ABA1B@Home>

>Then it releases the hostage.

Not necessarily true.  Washing machines really do eat socks.  A friend of 
mine found his washing machine cabinet littered with socks that had floated 
up over the lip of the tub and dropped to be bottom, never to return until a 
breakdown required opening.

Michael Rowe 

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Jul 26 13:11:23 2010
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:11:23 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] I love my MG...
Message-ID: <480834799.445092.1280171483210.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

had a few errands to run today so naturally I went in the midget. 4 stops at least 6 sets of people "thats a great looking car" " my dad used to have one..." and my favorite: " hey buddy is that a porsche?" nope its more fun followed by the light turning green and me tearing off down the street with my perma-grin firmly attached to my face. Good Day 
ryan 

From nases at verizon.net  Mon Jul 26 16:59:03 2010
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:59:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix video
Message-ID: <078879AD-08FE-4E7F-90A7-F9A3FCD4C9C2@verizon.net>

I shot some video on my phone at the GP this past Saturday.  It's only a
mashed together movie of practice and qualifying and runs just under 10
minutes.  If you care to take a look:

http://gallery.me.com/pnase/100114

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From banjojohn at cox.net  Mon Jul 26 19:53:17 2010
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:53:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
Message-ID: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>

Hi guys and gals:

I'm stumped and need some help.  I was test driving my bugeye, 1275 engine,
a few weeks ago when it just quit.  Had to have it towed home.  I have no
spark.  I thought it must be a failed Pertronix unit so I put points and
condenser back in.  Still no spark.  I have power to the coil.  I have tried
several coils, so I don't think that's it.  I checked the points and they
seem to be working properly.  The rotor looks good.  Any ideas on what might
be the problem?  Now I'm thinking the PerTronix might not the problem.  Is
there a way to test them?

I'm probably missing something obvious

Any ideas?

Thanks 

John O'Brien

'61 bugeye

'65 BJ8

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 20:00:15 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:00:15 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Mq8y8G+mu5d0pqJpCTDoW--b_BbeQEKqjXRT2@mail.gmail.com>

At least one terminal in the dizzy should be insulated from ground.
Verify power to the coil.  Make sure other side of coil is grounded
when points are closed and not grounded when points are open.

From banjojohn at cox.net  Mon Jul 26 20:05:42 2010
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:05:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Mq8y8G+mu5d0pqJpCTDoW--b_BbeQEKqjXRT2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
	<AANLkTi=Mq8y8G+mu5d0pqJpCTDoW--b_BbeQEKqjXRT2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00DE2046988D4A3CAEE952827CD71742@authorizf47d14>

I've checked and I have power to the coil, and I have checked the points.
Coil is grounded when point closed and not grounded when they are open.

-----Original Message-----
From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:00 PM
To: John O'Brien
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye

At least one terminal in the dizzy should be insulated from ground.
Verify power to the coil.  Make sure other side of coil is grounded
when points are closed and not grounded when points are open.

From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Jul 26 20:06:59 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:06:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <4C4E3F43.8030902@tx.rr.com>

Are the points clean?  Do they have the proper gap?  Are they grounded 
properly?
Are you getting the proper voltage to the coil?  You can pull the coil 
wire out of the distributor and hold it near the engine block- you 
should see a spark there.

The ignition system is relatively simple but does have a lot of 
components that must work.  Current must flow from the ignition switch 
to the coil to the points to the ground.  The points must open and close 
properly.  The coil must produce a spark, which must go through a wire 
to the distributor, which must "distribute" the spark via the rotor and 
distributor cap, then the spark travels down the spark plug wire to the 
spark plugs to the ground.

Not counting the resistor, if LBC's have them, that is a total of 8 or 
more parts that must work properly.  The good thing is that you can 
usually troubleshoot each individual part fairly easily without a lot of 
special tools.
> I'm stumped and need some help.  I was test driving my bugeye, 1275 engine,
> a few weeks ago when it just quit.  Had to have it towed home.  I have no
> spark.  I thought it must be a failed Pertronix unit so I put points and
> condenser back in.  Still no spark.  I have power to the coil.  I have tried
> several coils, so I don't think that's it.  I checked the points and they
> seem to be working properly.  The rotor looks good.  Any ideas on what might
> be the problem?  Now I'm thinking the PerTronix might not the problem.  Is
> there a way to test them?

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 20:11:14 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:11:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <00DE2046988D4A3CAEE952827CD71742@authorizf47d14>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
	<AANLkTi=Mq8y8G+mu5d0pqJpCTDoW--b_BbeQEKqjXRT2@mail.gmail.com>
	<00DE2046988D4A3CAEE952827CD71742@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikAbc==0qSoSfWwt7HiHQa6CvGRx2trFg6UpLqM@mail.gmail.com>

Pull one plug.  Put that plug's wire in coil so you have coil>wire>plug.
Place plug with bottom electrode on head.
Turn on ignition (don't start, duh, it won't start).  If points are
closed, open manually by hand.  If points are open use small piece of
wire to ground neg side of coil momentarily and see if you get spark
upon ungrounding.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 20:13:19 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:13:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikAbc==0qSoSfWwt7HiHQa6CvGRx2trFg6UpLqM@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
	<AANLkTi=Mq8y8G+mu5d0pqJpCTDoW--b_BbeQEKqjXRT2@mail.gmail.com>
	<00DE2046988D4A3CAEE952827CD71742@authorizf47d14>
	<AANLkTikAbc==0qSoSfWwt7HiHQa6CvGRx2trFg6UpLqM@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikLFtw6_8Qjin580wnkbtO4ik1NO487_c7OTRmQ@mail.gmail.com>

Also check dizzy cap and rotor carefully.

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Mon Jul 26 20:34:04 2010
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:34:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <201007270234.o6R2YZfL001810@mail.usimperio.com>

Stick a timing light on the wire between the coil and dist cap, try 
to fire it up, should have a flash of the light, if not then suspect 
the cap, rotor, or the wire itself.

Dave

At 09:53 PM 7/26/2010, you wrote:
>Hi guys and gals:
>
>I'm stumped and need some help.  I was test driving my bugeye, 1275 engine,
>a few weeks ago when it just quit.  Had to have it towed home.  I have no
>spark.  I thought it must be a failed Pertronix unit so I put points and
>condenser back in.  Still no spark.  I have power to the coil.  I have tried
>several coils, so I don't think that's it.  I checked the points and they
>seem to be working properly.  The rotor looks good.  Any ideas on what might
>be the problem?  Now I'm thinking the PerTronix might not the problem.  Is
>there a way to test them?
>
>I'm probably missing something obvious
>
>Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>
>John O'Brien
>
>'61 bugeye
>
>'65 BJ8
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Mon Jul 26 20:54:58 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:54:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <201007270234.o6R2YZfL001810@mail.usimperio.com>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
	<201007270234.o6R2YZfL001810@mail.usimperio.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin4S8db5aMkPvM4Xfhxbk9UyRyZ3sVJ8rWcxiFv@mail.gmail.com>

John,

I went through a bad pertronix coil, and just burned up a pertronx ignitor
with the wrong replacement coil. (0.45 ohm versus 3.0)
BTW pertronix has been very good about replacements even after the normal
time period

first below is a link to links on how to test positive or negative ground
pertronix ignitors:

http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/pertronix_igniters.htm


second, when I reinstalled my old dizzy, the points needed a bit of filing
to conduct well,  you need a small very fine file and just a few flat
stokes.


I read someplace that one of the aftermarket rotors may have trouble with
the higher voltage from the pertronix coil, if you get spark direct from the
coil, go for a new rotor.

good luck.

Steve
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Dave Yealy <lbc at littlebitcountry.com>wrote:

> Stick a timing light on the wire between the coil and dist cap, try to fire
> it up, should have a flash of the light, if not then suspect the cap, rotor,
> or the wire itself.
>
> Dave
>
>
> At 09:53 PM 7/26/2010, you wrote:
>
>> Hi guys and gals:
>>
>> I'm stumped and need some help.  I was test driving my bugeye, 1275
>> engine,
>> a few weeks ago when it just quit.  Had to have it towed home.  I have no
>> spark.  I thought it must be a failed Pertronix unit so I put points and
>> condenser back in.  Still no spark.  I have power to the coil.  I have
>> tried
>> several coils, so I don't think that's it.  I checked the points and they
>> seem to be working properly.  The rotor looks good.  Any ideas on what
>> might
>> be the problem?  Now I'm thinking the PerTronix might not the problem.  Is
>> there a way to test them?
>>
>> I'm probably missing something obvious
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John O'Brien
>>
>> '61 bugeye
>>
>> '65 BJ8
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Mon Jul 26 20:55:43 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:55:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=Mq8y8G+mu5d0pqJpCTDoW--b_BbeQEKqjXRT2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
	<AANLkTi=Mq8y8G+mu5d0pqJpCTDoW--b_BbeQEKqjXRT2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C4E4AAF.8060203@tx.rr.com>

That reminds me- what I wrote is for a system with negative ground.  
What connects to ground and what is "hot" depends on whether it is 
negative ground or positive ground.
> At least one terminal in the dizzy should be insulated from ground.
> Verify power to the coil.  Make sure other side of coil is grounded
> when points are closed and not grounded when points are open.

From banjojohn at cox.net  Mon Jul 26 21:35:13 2010
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:35:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin4S8db5aMkPvM4Xfhxbk9UyRyZ3sVJ8rWcxiFv@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14><201007270234.o6R2YZfL001810@mail.usimperio.com>
	<AANLkTin4S8db5aMkPvM4Xfhxbk9UyRyZ3sVJ8rWcxiFv@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B817F6569FFB4E3FA6D080B9B070A079@authorizf47d14>

Thanks Steve.
I used your information to test the PerTronix, and it tested good!  I will
reinstall it.
Thanks
John

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steven Guterman
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:55 PM
To: Dave Yealy
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye

John,

I went through a bad pertronix coil, and just burned up a pertronx ignitor
with the wrong replacement coil. (0.45 ohm versus 3.0)
BTW pertronix has been very good about replacements even after the normal
time period

first below is a link to links on how to test positive or negative ground
pertronix ignitors:

http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/pertronix_igniters.htm


second, when I reinstalled my old dizzy, the points needed a bit of filing
to conduct well,  you need a small very fine file and just a few flat
stokes.


I read someplace that one of the aftermarket rotors may have trouble with
the higher voltage from the pertronix coil, if you get spark direct from the
coil, go for a new rotor.

good luck.

Steve
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Dave Yealy
<lbc at littlebitcountry.com>wrote:

> Stick a timing light on the wire between the coil and dist cap, try to
fire
> it up, should have a flash of the light, if not then suspect the cap,
rotor,
> or the wire itself.
>
> Dave
>
>
> At 09:53 PM 7/26/2010, you wrote:
>
>> Hi guys and gals:
>>
>> I'm stumped and need some help.  I was test driving my bugeye, 1275
>> engine,
>> a few weeks ago when it just quit.  Had to have it towed home.  I have no
>> spark.  I thought it must be a failed Pertronix unit so I put points and
>> condenser back in.  Still no spark.  I have power to the coil.  I have
>> tried
>> several coils, so I don't think that's it.  I checked the points and they
>> seem to be working properly.  The rotor looks good.  Any ideas on what
>> might
>> be the problem?  Now I'm thinking the PerTronix might not the problem.
Is
>> there a way to test them?
>>
>> I'm probably missing something obvious
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> John O'Brien
>>
>> '61 bugeye
>>
>> '65 BJ8
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jul 26 21:38:30 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:38:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <283BFBF0A09042F5AB295DE3D6F99085@blackbox2>

Also check your condenser.

Capacitors can just dry out, even if they have never been used.



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John O'Brien
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 9:53 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye

Hi guys and gals:

I'm stumped and need some help.  I was test driving my bugeye, 1275 engine,
a few weeks ago when it just quit.  Had to have it towed home.  I have no
spark.  I thought it must be a failed Pertronix unit so I put points and
condenser back in.  Still no spark.  I have power to the coil.  I have tried
several coils, so I don't think that's it.  I checked the points and they
seem to be working properly.  The rotor looks good.  Any ideas on what might
be the problem?  Now I'm thinking the PerTronix might not the problem.  Is
there a way to test them?

I'm probably missing something obvious

Any ideas?

Thanks 

John O'Brien

'61 bugeye

'65 BJ8
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 27 05:40:23 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:40:23 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
Message-ID: <12552.46b380e9.39801fa7@aol.com>

I had a rotor that looked good that was also very low mileage (I life the  
rotors and change before failure).  It wasa Bosch brown rather than the  
suspect made wherever (India/China) Lucas black.  Turned out it was bad and  I 
replaced it with a high performance Blue (45 series distributor) for what it 
 costs if I were you I'd go out and buy a performance red rotor.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 27/07/2010 02:53:39 GMT Daylight Time, banjojohn at cox.net 
 writes:

The  rotor looks good

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul 27 06:02:30 2010
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:02:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Fan Clutch question
Message-ID: <562994.4565.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My friend put a new fan clutch and water pump on his 1500 Midget this weekend.
The clutch went onto the pump shaft via his press, feeling what he thought was
properly "snug" during the process. Everything went back in fine, using all
the 
proper parts (there's apparently a crush washer in there somewhere, but
I've 
never worked on one of these so don't know).  A few miles later when
everything 
was nice and warm, the fan went into the radiator...

He wants to
know if this is a common occurance.  The pump and clutch both came 
from Mo$$.
Anybody have suggestions for a fix? JB Weld on the shaft when 
reassembling?
Drill and tap threads into the waterpump shaft, then lock on with 
a bolt and
washer? Other ideas?

He didn't like my suggestion of throwing the whole thing
away and installing a 
thermostatically-controlled electric fan as he fears
the alternator is not up to 
the task...

Thanks,
 - David Booker

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Tue Jul 27 07:57:30 2010
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:57:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Asheville NC Bugeye
Message-ID: <11E4F4D5052848459F06029E88CFD728@Dell9200>

I was in Ashville this past weekend and Sunday morning about 10 AM I was 
pulling out of our hotel when a nice white Bugeye went by.  Do we have a 
list member in Asheville?

Mark
Nashville
http://www.arrestmered.com
58 "Bugeye"

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 09:33:32 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:33:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Fan Clutch question
In-Reply-To: <562994.4565.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <562994.4565.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=h26MPyRchuB1YjhgCo-rSYO+915Gydi+LNGod@mail.gmail.com>

I have installed GM alternator #7127 63amp (or #7134 80amp) on 1275s
without too much trouble.  The 7127 was $30 with a lifetime warranty
from Autozone.
There are other alternator conversions that are more plug and play.

If the replacement parts are supposed to be press fit and do not stay
then I would abandon that avenue and go electric, even going as far as
upgrading the alternator.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 09:33:32 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 09:33:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Fan Clutch question
In-Reply-To: <562994.4565.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <562994.4565.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=h26MPyRchuB1YjhgCo-rSYO+915Gydi+LNGod@mail.gmail.com>

I have installed GM alternator #7127 63amp (or #7134 80amp) on 1275s
without too much trouble.  The 7127 was $30 with a lifetime warranty
from Autozone.
There are other alternator conversions that are more plug and play.

If the replacement parts are supposed to be press fit and do not stay
then I would abandon that avenue and go electric, even going as far as
upgrading the alternator.

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 27 09:48:13 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:48:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Fan Clutch question
In-Reply-To: <562994.4565.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <562994.4565.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201007270848240.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

If all you installed was the clutch and blades, you missed the "one 
time use only" crush ring.  Moss 071-239 It is a corrugated collar 
that deforms when the clutch is pressed on. Meant to lock it. But.... 
if that was installed NEW, then there must be another issue.
    The set up from an earlier year Spitfire with clutch fan is often used.
         Peter C
====
At 07:02 AM 7/27/2010, David Booker wrote:
>My friend put a new fan clutch and water pump on his 1500 Midget this weekend.
>The clutch went onto the pump shaft via his press, feeling what he thought was
>properly "snug" during the process. Everything went back in fine, using all
>the
>proper parts (there's apparently a crush washer in there somewhere, but
>I've
>never worked on one of these so don't know).  A few miles later when
>everything
>was nice and warm, the fan went into the radiator...
>
>He wants to
>know if this is a common occurance.  The pump and clutch both came
>from Mo$$.
>Anybody have suggestions for a fix? JB Weld on the shaft when
>reassembling?
>Drill and tap threads into the waterpump shaft, then lock on with
>a bolt and
>washer? Other ideas?
>
>He didn't like my suggestion of throwing the whole thing
>away and installing a
>thermostatically-controlled electric fan as he fears
>the alternator is not up to
>the task...
>
>Thanks,
>  - David Booker

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jul 27 10:24:25 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:24:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Fan Clutch question
In-Reply-To: <201007270848240.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <562994.4565.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<201007270848240.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <201007270924527.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

I meant withOUT clutch fan on earlier Spitties.
         PC
=
At 10:48 AM 7/27/2010, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>If all you installed was the clutch and blades, you missed the "one 
>time use only" crush ring.  Moss 071-239 It is a corrugated collar 
>that deforms when the clutch is pressed on. Meant to lock it. 
>But.... if that was installed NEW, then there must be another issue.
>    The set up from an earlier year Spitfire with clutch fan is often used.
>         Peter C
>====

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jul 27 11:29:42 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:29:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=HEAGzArHXP8tGp2hYNaR77M1kNQenm-Qipyia@mail.gmail.com>
References: <507ACE14E55F428D853752641078623B@Home>,
	<878611.85062.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<AANLkTi=HEAGzArHXP8tGp2hYNaR77M1kNQenm-Qipyia@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w24F6B657D4B65D149EC591B8A70@phx.gbl>

My wife and I put one and one together and got 4. ???

Robert

> Try finding one that can add 2 and 2 and come
> up with 4!  Getting change at McDonalds is the ultimate adventure around
> here. We should start a theme park!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jul 27 11:37:35 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:37:35 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
In-Reply-To: <4C4C3022.4040305@comcast.net>
References: <191475.49489.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<4C4C3022.4040305@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w12F5838152F6D4AB856232B8A70@phx.gbl>

Planted in '74:
http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2220

Robert Duquette

Ottawa ON Canada

1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )

1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )

1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen
)http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg






> Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 08:37:54 -0400
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
>
> You guys don't get it.
> They are FARMERS.
> Farmers PLANT crops.
> So if you plant a Herald, maybe a bunch of Heralds will grow.
> I know for a fact that Sprites populate all by themselves at my house ;)
>
>
>
> > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/1810789892.html
> >
> > So he's got a Herald for sale that is rusted into the ground.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Frank
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jul 27 12:16:01 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:16:01 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <938208.11595.qm@web46412.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <938208.11595.qm@web46412.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w19C23C047123FF1DC78020B8A70@phx.gbl>

Does it matter if the Sprites are assembled?  ( If not, then I have most of
one. )

> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 10:24:28 -0700
>
> If the middle class disappears then everyone will move up one class.  The
> upper
> poor will be the lower rich.  The middle poor will be the upper poor.
> And so
> on!!
>
> It will be much easier to get rich because we will not have to
> work our way
> through the middle class.  It all works quite well.  Those with
> two or
> more Sprites will be rich, those with only one will be poor. Skip  J.
> BE 37190
> _______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Jul 27 12:26:36 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:26:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w24F6B657D4B65D149EC591B8A70@phx.gbl>
References: <507ACE14E55F428D853752641078623B@Home>,
	<878611.85062.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<AANLkTi=HEAGzArHXP8tGp2hYNaR77M1kNQenm-Qipyia@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY147-w24F6B657D4B65D149EC591B8A70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1838C8C8239F467B9AF8B59B03787347@spider>

That's multiplying, not addition.   ...bill in corvallis
========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
robertduquette at sympatico.ca
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:30 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?

My wife and I put one and one together and got 4. ???

Robert

> Try finding one that can add 2 and 2 and come
> up with 4!  Getting change at McDonalds is the ultimate adventure around
> here. We should start a theme park!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
_______________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jul 27 13:12:26 2010
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:12:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What is it with farmers?
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w12F5838152F6D4AB856232B8A70@phx.gbl>
References: <191475.49489.qm@web38906.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4C4C3022.4040305@comcast.net>
	<BAY147-w12F5838152F6D4AB856232B8A70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=oKE3CfFyTMXv0zo9AQc2TwhkJwbYCBae=JPFr@mail.gmail.com>

Planted in 1986...

http://www.carhenge.com/

On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:37 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Planted in '74:
> http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2220

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Jul 27 13:47:50 2010
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:47:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Fan Clutch question
Message-ID: <08fd01cb2dc4$98360c70$0168010a@mail2world.com>

I have the GM alternator on my 1500 and it was a fairly easy fit. No
issues with it so far.
 
OTOH, I have no idea if my fan clutch is actually working or not... ;)
 
If you can go electric, that would be probably the better route. Free up
a pony or two from the engine as well.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: derf [derf247 at gmail.com]
Sent: 7/27/2010 11:35:32 AM
To: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1500 Fan Clutch question 

I have installed GM alternator #7127 63amp (or #7134 80amp) on 1275s 
without too much trouble. The 7127 was $30 with a lifetime warranty 
from Autozone. 
There are other alternator conversions that are more plug and play. 

If the replacement parts are supposed to be press fit and do not stay 
then I would abandon that avenue and go electric, even going as far as 
upgrading the alternator. 
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From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue Jul 27 13:34:13 2010
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:34:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix video
Message-ID: <E3AFE41A-631A-4F0B-B4D3-BA7498A9C67E@gerardsgarage.com>

Hi Phil,

Your video brings back some good memories. I stood on that exact same  
spot at this event in 2007. I watched a much too aggressive driver  
crash into that near side tree and total his car too.

Great video, thanks for posting.

Gerard

Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:59:03 -0400
From: Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix video
To: "net Spridgets at autox." <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <078879AD-08FE-4E7F-90A7-F9A3FCD4C9C2 at verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I shot some video on my phone at the GP this past Saturday.  It's only a
mashed together movie of practice and qualifying and runs just under 10
minutes.  If you care to take a look:

http://gallery.me.com/pnase/100114

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com  Tue Jul 27 13:13:17 2010
From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:13:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
In-Reply-To: <mailman.34043.1280238999.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.34043.1280238999.914.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <F40F3797-0EE2-41AE-ACA8-58B04675130D@gerardsgarage.com>

John,

W-M 1330 is correct. It's the rotor. Even the new ones you buy today  
are known to fail early. It may look fine, but that's what I suspect.  
I just helped someone troubleshoot a Morris with the same symptoms. It  
was a bad rotor.

Gerard

On Jul 27, 2010, at 6:56 AM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote:

> -----------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 07:40:23 EDT
> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No spark bugeye
> To: banjojohn at cox.net, spridgets at autox.team.net
> Message-ID: <12552.46b380e9.39801fa7 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I had a rotor that looked good that was also very low mileage (I  
> life the
> rotors and change before failure).  It wasa Bosch brown rather than  
> the
> suspect made wherever (India/China) Lucas black.  Turned out it was  
> bad and  I
> replaced it with a high performance Blue (45 series distributor) for  
> what it
> costs if I were you I'd go out and buy a performance red rotor.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
> In a message dated 27/07/2010 02:53:39 GMT Daylight Time, banjojohn at cox.net
> writes:
>
> The  rotor looks good

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Jul 27 16:54:55 2010
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:54:55 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Middle Class RIP?
Message-ID: <28b09.5274837f.3980bdbf@aol.com>

\so what's new for me?
 
In a message dated 27/07/2010 19:26:02 GMT Daylight Time,  
robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes:

those  with only one Sprite will be poor

From jmj3351 at comcast.net  Tue Jul 27 17:10:35 2010
From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:10:35 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Fan Clutch question
In-Reply-To: <201007270848240.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <618127655.674245.1280272235924.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

This is common that the fan comes off with the 1500 fan clutch. The crush
rings that Vicky and Moss sell are no good. I have seen them pull off with a
tug. You have to find a good factory spec. crush ring and then make sure that
it is well seated. IB attempted to have the water pump shaft drilled and
tapped for a retainer bolt, the shaft is so hard that the machine shop
couldn't dent it with their tools. I have not had a fanB eject yet but it is a
matter of time with a new 1300 race engine that I amB about to install.
Electric fan sounds like good idea to me if you are going to run hard. -----
Original Message -----
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>, "spridget"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:48:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1500 Fan Clutch question

If all you installed was the clutch and blades, you missed the "one
time use only" crush ring. B Moss 071-239 It is a corrugated collar
that deforms when the clutch is pressed on. Meant to lock it. But....
if that was installed NEW, then there must be another issue.
B B  B The set up from an earlier year Spitfire with clutch fan is often used.
B B  B  B  B  Peter C
====
At 07:02 AM 7/27/2010, David Booker wrote:
>My friend put a new fan clutch and water pump on his 1500 Midget this
weekend.
>The clutch went onto the pump shaft via his press, feeling what he thought
was
>properly "snug" during the process. Everything went back in fine, using all
>the
>proper parts (there's apparently a crush washer in there somewhere, but
>I've
>never worked on one of these so don't know). B A few miles later when
>everything
>was nice and warm, the fan went into the radiator...
>
>He wants to
>know if this is a common occurance. B The pump and clutch both came
>from Mo$$.
>Anybody have suggestions for a fix? JB Weld on the shaft when
>reassembling?
>Drill and tap threads into the waterpump shaft, then lock on with
>a bolt and
>washer? Other ideas?
>
>He didn't like my suggestion of throwing the whole thing
>away and installing a
>thermostatically-controlled electric fan as he fears
>the alternator is not up to
>the task...
>
>Thanks,
> B - David Booker
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jul 28 06:33:44 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:33:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <464E78E2C7F14D2DB1AA813C0DC7FC8A@user8634b3d69b>
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>,
	<464E78E2C7F14D2DB1AA813C0DC7FC8A@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w1256F26D8B631EE5B33414B8A80@phx.gbl>

You can buy automatic motion sensing sprinklers, if you don't mind getting
your car washed a bit.  I would try to get it before it got to the top and not
have it making a claws out panic exit from on the car. :)
http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=44958&cat=2,51555&ap=2

Robert
> From: grday at btinternet.com
>
> Next doors' cat will be taking a longish trip shortly, it has got back to
> using the cloth top of the wife's Audi TT as a fur shedding place when it
> sleeps.  Shame really, it has learnt to walk on the fence top between the
> gardens and not to go into our garden so why doesn't it learn about the car
> roof?
>
>
> Guy R Day

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Jul 28 08:55:42 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 15:55:42 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>,
	<464E78E2C7F14D2DB1AA813C0DC7FC8A@user8634b3d69b>
	<BAY147-w1256F26D8B631EE5B33414B8A80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BE1ACFAC260B49ED847532D490A5BADC@user8634b3d69b>

That has potential.

Many thanks

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat 
stories.


> You can buy automatic motion sensing sprinklers, if you don't mind getting
> your car washed a bit.  I would try to get it before it got to the top and 
> not
> have it making a claws out panic exit from on the car. :)
> http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=44958&cat=2,51555&ap=2
>
> Robert
>> From: grday at btinternet.com
>>
>> Next doors' cat will be taking a longish trip shortly, it has got back to
>> using the cloth top of the wife's Audi TT as a fur shedding place when it
>> sleeps.  Shame really, it has learnt to walk on the fence top between the
>> gardens and not to go into our garden so why doesn't it learn about the 
>> car
>> roof?
>>
>>
>> Guy R Day
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From an5.sprite at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 10:21:32 2010
From: an5.sprite at gmail.com (Steven Guterman)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:21:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <BE1ACFAC260B49ED847532D490A5BADC@user8634b3d69b>
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com>
	<464E78E2C7F14D2DB1AA813C0DC7FC8A@user8634b3d69b>
	<BAY147-w1256F26D8B631EE5B33414B8A80@phx.gbl>
	<BE1ACFAC260B49ED847532D490A5BADC@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinY2CKmU56huFHAqhyQ83bVRxbM-_TX59=UsH+j@mail.gmail.com>

available much cheaper through Amazon,

http://www.amazon.com/Contech-Electronics-CRO101-Scarecrow-Motion-Activated/dp/B000071NUS/ref=sr_1_1/175-4855470-5445826?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1280333665&sr=8-1



On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

> That has potential.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
> stories.
>
>
>  You can buy automatic motion sensing sprinklers, if you don't mind getting
>> your car washed a bit.  I would try to get it before it got to the top and
>> not
>> have it making a claws out panic exit from on the car. :)
>> http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=44958&cat=2,51555&ap=2
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>> From: grday at btinternet.com
>>>
>>> Next doors' cat will be taking a longish trip shortly, it has got back to
>>> using the cloth top of the wife's Audi TT as a fur shedding place when it
>>> sleeps.  Shame really, it has learnt to walk on the fence top between the
>>> gardens and not to go into our garden so why doesn't it learn about the
>>> car
>>> roof?
>>>
>>>
>>> Guy R Day
>>>
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 28 12:52:44 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:52:44 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Front Shocks
Message-ID: <AANLkTin3d=tHDzQxFPxi5-zBjZuwpwzgnkDR+hiL9kXW@mail.gmail.com>

I have some MGB front shocks that I was going to use on the Midget at
one time.  Well, it ain't happening so I need to pass these shocks on
to someone who wants or needs them.

Anybody?

Ed?  Need cores?  What is the going rate for cores?

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Jul 28 15:24:46 2010
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:24:46 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com><464E78E2C7F14D2DB1AA813C0DC7FC8A@user8634b3d69b><BAY147-w1256F26D8B631EE5B33414B8A80@phx.gbl><BE1ACFAC260B49ED847532D490A5BADC@user8634b3d69b>
	<AANLkTinY2CKmU56huFHAqhyQ83bVRxbM-_TX59=UsH+j@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0C51A1BF365C4DACBA2C9D3ED74F6DA0@user8634b3d69b>

A check on UK sites has shown even cheaper....

Many thanks,

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Steven Guterman
To: Guy R Day
Cc: robertduquette at sympatico.ca ; Spridgets
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat 
stories.


available much cheaper through Amazon,


http://www.amazon.com/Contech-Electronics-CRO101-Scarecrow-Motion-Activated/dp/B000071NUS/ref=sr_1_1/175-4855470-5445826?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1280333665&sr=8-1





On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

  That has potential.

  Many thanks

  Guy R Day


  ----- Original Message ----- From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
  To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat 
stories.



    You can buy automatic motion sensing sprinklers, if you don't mind 
getting
    your car washed a bit.  I would try to get it before it got to the top 
and not
    have it making a claws out panic exit from on the car. :)
    http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=44958&cat=2,51555&ap=2

    Robert

      From: grday at btinternet.com

      Next doors' cat will be taking a longish trip shortly, it has got back 
to
      using the cloth top of the wife's Audi TT as a fur shedding place when 
it
      sleeps.  Shame really, it has learnt to walk on the fence top between 
the
      gardens and not to go into our garden so why doesn't it learn about 
the car
      roof?


      Guy R Day

    _______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jul 28 16:08:02 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:08:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
 stories.
In-Reply-To: <0C51A1BF365C4DACBA2C9D3ED74F6DA0@user8634b3d69b>
References: <AANLkTik-9slNuYU3EJIzX14Gk9e2NP2_9KPakg9UeH5X@mail.gmail.com><464E78E2C7F14D2DB1AA813C0DC7FC8A@user8634b3d69b><BAY147-w1256F26D8B631EE5B33414B8A80@phx.gbl><BE1ACFAC260B49ED847532D490A5BADC@user8634b3d69b>
	<AANLkTinY2CKmU56huFHAqhyQ83bVRxbM-_TX59=UsH+j@mail.gmail.com>,
	<0C51A1BF365C4DACBA2C9D3ED74F6DA0@user8634b3d69b>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w61A912A181282AB7F18C7BB8A80@phx.gbl>

We'll be looking for video pn youtube.  Let us know when you post it!!!

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada









From: grday at btinternet.com
To: an5.sprite at gmail.com
CC: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
stories.
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:24:46 +0100





A check on UK sites has shown even cheaper....

Many thanks,

Guy R Day


----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Guterman
To: Guy R Day
Cc: robertduquette at sympatico.ca ; Spridgets
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
stories.

available much cheaper through Amazon,


http://www.amazon.com/Contech-Electronics-CRO101-Scarecrow-Motion-Activated/d
p/B000071NUS/ref=sr_1_1/175-4855470-5445826?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1280333
665&sr=8-1





On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Guy R Day <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

That has potential.

Many thanks

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC "CAT FROM HELL"......have fun with cat
stories.



You can buy automatic motion sensing sprinklers, if you don't mind getting
your car washed a bit.  I would try to get it before it got to the top and
not
have it making a claws out panic exit from on the car. :)
http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=44958&cat=2,51555&ap=2

Robert

From: grday at btinternet.com

Next doors' cat will be taking a longish trip shortly, it has got back to
using the cloth top of the wife's Audi TT as a fur shedding place when it
sleeps.  Shame really, it has learnt to walk on the fence top between the
gardens and not to go into our garden so why doesn't it learn about the car
roof?


Guy R Day
_______________________________________________

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Jul 29 08:27:32 2010
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 14:27:32 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Tecalemit grease gun
Message-ID: <20100729.082732.534.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>

Here's a question for those of you who know the minutia of Sprites: The
original tool kit included a Tecalemit grease gun, Was this for Grease as we
know it, or was it for high viscosity oil (such as should be put in the
steering rack)?


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 29 08:40:53 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 07:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tecalemit grease gun
In-Reply-To: <20100729.082732.534.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100729.082732.534.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <779297.65907.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Here's what I found on it...

http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/tools/tf210.htm

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, July 29, 2010 7:27:32 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Tecalemit grease gun

Here's a question for those of you who know the minutia of Sprites: The
original tool kit included a Tecalemit grease gun, Was this for Grease as we
know it, or was it for high viscosity oil (such as should be put in the
steering rack)?


Mark Haynes
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Jul 29 09:04:30 2010
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:04:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tecalemit grease gun
In-Reply-To: <20100729.082732.534.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
References: <20100729.082732.534.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <00a701cb2f2f$62025700$26070500$@net>

I am impressed with this question as it is on that most never think of.
>From the fitting on the gun for a BE I always "assumed" that it was for a
high viscosity oil.  Thanks to Edward I now know the facts.

Leo

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:28 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Tecalemit grease gun

Here's a question for those of you who know the minutia of Sprites: The
original tool kit included a Tecalemit grease gun, Was this for Grease as we
know it, or was it for high viscosity oil (such as should be put in the
steering rack)?


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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jul 29 14:19:19 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:19:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Stirling Moss-BBC excerpt..  (No LBC!)
Message-ID: <4C51E247.7773.16C5096@kk7ss.verizon.net>

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/8849492.stm

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Thu Jul 29 14:55:02 2010
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (J Foster)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:55:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NOLBC - Miata question
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=66gc=rS+z=oGwj9-SOgdnKX9zdMprYk6F2HbT@mail.gmail.com>

SWMBO has spotted a '99 Miata she's interested in (she won't drive the
73 Midget for whatever reason).  I only got a quick 2 minute
walkaround and peek inside during lunch but will probably take it out
for a quick spin and closer inspection later tomorrow.

This one has the hardtop, leather interior, and only 55k miles.

Radio display is broken (cracked LCD), and both rockers appears quite
rough just behind the door where there's a seam.  I can't tell if it's
been worked on poorly, or if the factory just didn't do a great job
seeing as it gets the crinkle finish there anyway to resist road rash.

Any particular troublesome areas to watch out for on the '99?  And can
any of you comment OFF LIST on the rocker panel concern?

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Jul 29 18:57:35 2010
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:57:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Milwaukee Craigslist Sprite
In-Reply-To: <283BFBF0A09042F5AB295DE3D6F99085@blackbox2>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
	<283BFBF0A09042F5AB295DE3D6F99085@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <002601cb2f82$33299c10$997cd430$@rr.com>

OK, get this...I had to look since its in my area.

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/pts/1855593646.html

It has California black plates and title.  The rest is worse than the
photos.  When I got there the owner was trying to get into the car through
the rear soft top quarter window and a pry bar.  Yeah he put his hand
through it.

Watching him and trying to stop him at times, I realize the top isn't
latched on the windshield.  Pull the top open, unlock the door and open it
and watch it sag  a few inches.  Yay.  Creative uses of Bondo.  I bounced a
corner and heard a metallic crunch.

I pop the hood and there is a serious nest of some varmint  and he proceeds
to yank it out by hand (note to self, don't shake hands with him)  Comments
he has not had that open for 20 some years.

Then he tells me he parked it because the engine needs rings and a clutch.
Parts are hard to find because they aren't there to begin with.

He's firm on the price. NFI, etc.  
My loss your gain...:)

Chris

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jul 29 20:09:42 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:09:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Milwaukee Craigslist Sprite
In-Reply-To: <002601cb2f82$33299c10$997cd430$@rr.com>
References: <00FCC8DEC967405D8FEC34C265A935F1@authorizf47d14>
	<283BFBF0A09042F5AB295DE3D6F99085@blackbox2>
	<002601cb2f82$33299c10$997cd430$@rr.com>
Message-ID: <4C523466.2080101@justbrits.com>

<< ...I had to look since its in my area. >>

Hope you had at LEAST a QUART of Visine with you, Chris !?!?!?

Did you offer to take it off HIS hands for the mere price of
$50.00 cash IN your hand PLUS he has to help get it on your
trailer ??

From 13book at msn.com  Fri Jul 30 00:11:36 2010
From: 13book at msn.com (13book at msn.com)
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:11:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] posting
Message-ID: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>

Hi, how do I post on the site?  I can't seem to be able to.  Thanks for your
help.  Larry  ( I have a '61 bugeye)

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri Jul 30 02:16:15 2010
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:16:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] posting
In-Reply-To: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinX1esH8cZ-5C-VETj_REn5uv5vhkkz_HDNcLEH@mail.gmail.com>

You just did.  Welcome Larry.  Where are you located?  You have posted to
the best place to be for information, help and useless opinions on the care
and upkeep of your pride and joy.  We sometimes get off topic, but there are
a great bunch of people here as you will find out.  I'm sure I won't be the
first to mention it, but there is no such thing as a 1961 Bugeye.  Bugeyes
were manufactured from 1958 to 1960.  Your car was most likely made in 1960
and first sold in your home state in 1961.  to some state registration
records, that makes it a 1961.  If you post the chassis number, someone here
will tell you exactly when it was on the assembly line.  For instance, my
1960 Bugeye has a chassis number of AN5-L/34172.  According to my British
Motor Industry Heritage Trust Ceritficate (you DO have one of these, don't
you?) it was on the assembly line from 26 Feb - 2 March 1960 and
"despatched" 7 March 1960 to Los Angeles, USA, making it a 1960 Bugeye.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

P.S. You will probably be asked your opinion on beer, cats, Frank Zappa and
a myriad of other subjects in the near future.  You'll see what I mean.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:11 PM, <13book at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi, how do I post on the site?  I can't seem to be able to.  Thanks for
> your
> help.  Larry  ( I have a '61 bugeye)
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 04:50:58 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:50:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] posting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinX1esH8cZ-5C-VETj_REn5uv5vhkkz_HDNcLEH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTinX1esH8cZ-5C-VETj_REn5uv5vhkkz_HDNcLEH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik+S3QpZYaA1R_0qAi+FKj09vBgLqkH9mohGo+x@mail.gmail.com>

The ONLY true 1961 Bugeye's were made in Oz, as they were imported as a CKD
kit.

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:16 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <
rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

> You just did.  Welcome Larry.  Where are you located?  You have posted to
> the best place to be for information, help and useless opinions on the care
> and upkeep of your pride and joy.  We sometimes get off topic, but there
> are
> a great bunch of people here as you will find out.  I'm sure I won't be the
> first to mention it, but there is no such thing as a 1961 Bugeye.  Bugeyes
> were manufactured from 1958 to 1960.  Your car was most likely made in 1960
> and first sold in your home state in 1961.  to some state registration
> records, that makes it a 1961.  If you post the chassis number, someone
> here
> will tell you exactly when it was on the assembly line.  For instance, my
> 1960 Bugeye has a chassis number of AN5-L/34172.  According to my British
> Motor Industry Heritage Trust Ceritficate (you DO have one of these, don't
> you?) it was on the assembly line from 26 Feb - 2 March 1960 and
> "despatched" 7 March 1960 to Los Angeles, USA, making it a 1960 Bugeye.
>
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> P.S. You will probably be asked your opinion on beer, cats, Frank Zappa and
> a myriad of other subjects in the near future.  You'll see what I mean.
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:11 PM, <13book at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, how do I post on the site?  I can't seem to be able to.  Thanks for
> > your
> > help.  Larry  ( I have a '61 bugeye)
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
> > Unsubscribe/Manage <http://www.team.net/forums%0AUnsubscribe/Manage>:
> >
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer at dslextreme.com
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad at gmail.com
>
>


-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jul 30 05:08:43 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:08:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] posting
In-Reply-To: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4C52B2BB.5090700@justbrits.com>

<< Hi, how do I post on the site? I can't seem to be able to. >>

You did just fine Larry, and just as Mike said - Welcome !!!

Only thing you DO need to watch is that you can ONLY post
using PLAIN test !!!  Otherwise, your attempts WILL 'bounce' !!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 30 05:31:31 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:31:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] posting
In-Reply-To: <4C52B2BB.5090700@justbrits.com>
References: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>
	<4C52B2BB.5090700@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <644E0CDEE5D54E0E99016AB5B9D6ACDE@spider>

Too early; he meant 'plain text.' The system here will dumb down .html to
text for you. ...bill in corvallis
========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Shop at " Just Brits
"
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 4:09 AM
To: 4 - Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] posting

<< Hi, how do I post on the site? I can't seem to be able to. >>

You did just fine Larry, and just as Mike said - Welcome !!!

Only thing you DO need to watch is that you can ONLY post
using PLAIN test !!!  Otherwise, your attempts WILL 'bounce' !!

Ed
_______________________________________________

From richb at u.washington.edu  Fri Jul 30 08:46:42 2010
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:46:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] posting
References: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTinX1esH8cZ-5C-VETj_REn5uv5vhkkz_HDNcLEH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9BA8FFD501EC47F7B1C462F8C465A3F0@psych.washington.edu>

I meet Larry at the All British Field Meet In Bellevue Wa last weekend so he 
is in the greater Seattle /Puget Sound area.  He walked past my car with a 
sign that he was looking for Bugeye parts.  We started talking about that 
and I told him about this Spridgets list and our NOSHIT group out here.  I 
of course could not remember the list address, but I do have a Spridgets 
list window sticker, so we got him connected with the address that way.

Glad to see you made here Larry.

I also meet a woman and her husband that just picked up a pair of '75 
Midgets (one running and one parts) at the ABFM and told them about the 
list, so we may see them here soon also.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett Wa
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
To: <13book at msn.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] posting


> You just did.  Welcome Larry.  Where are you located?  You have posted to
> the best place to be for information, help and useless opinions on the 
> care
> and upkeep of your pride and joy.  We sometimes get off topic, but there 
> are
> a great bunch of people here as you will find out.  I'm sure I won't be 
> the
> first to mention it, but there is no such thing as a 1961 Bugeye.  Bugeyes
> were manufactured from 1958 to 1960.  Your car was most likely made in 
> 1960
> and first sold in your home state in 1961.  to some state registration
> records, that makes it a 1961.  If you post the chassis number, someone 
> here
> will tell you exactly when it was on the assembly line.  For instance, my
> 1960 Bugeye has a chassis number of AN5-L/34172.  According to my British
> Motor Industry Heritage Trust Ceritficate (you DO have one of these, don't
> you?) it was on the assembly line from 26 Feb - 2 March 1960 and
> "despatched" 7 March 1960 to Los Angeles, USA, making it a 1960 Bugeye.
>
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> P.S. You will probably be asked your opinion on beer, cats, Frank Zappa 
> and
> a myriad of other subjects in the near future.  You'll see what I mean.
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:11 PM, <13book at msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, how do I post on the site?  I can't seem to be able to.  Thanks for
>> your
>> help.  Larry  ( I have a '61 bugeye)
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe/Manage <http://www.team.net/forums%0AUnsubscribe/Manage>:
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer at dslextreme.com
> _______________________________________________
>
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> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/richb at u.washington.edu

From richb at u.washington.edu  Fri Jul 30 09:39:03 2010
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 08:39:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weekend of firsts
Message-ID: <E554FBCED3834DFB908BA38455B369F3@psych.washington.edu>

Well this past weekend was a weekend of first for us.  It was the first time I
washed and vacuumed the Midget.  My focus has been on mechanical versus
appearance so far and have either been fixing things or driving it.  Haven't
been too worried about cleaning it.  The reason for giving it a good cleaning
was another first and that was entering it into it's first car show on
Saturday.  Now some of you have seen my car and know it's not "show" worthy,
but the Bellevue ABFM is a "bring 'um if you've got 'um" type of thing.  Since
we got our car running last spring for the first time since 1986 I thought it
would be fun.  It was.  The last first for the weekend and one that almost
kept us out of the show was having the car leave us stranded for the first
time at 10:30 Friday night.

Susan told me when we first got the car running that she would never be mad if
the car left us stranded as long as I kept a pair of walking shoes for her in
the trunk.  I had my tools with me, so while I fiddled with the car she
slipped on her walking shoes.  Thanks for the vote of confidence.  Well she
was right in that I wasn't able to figure out the short  that was blowing the
fuse so off we walked so I could consult the manual and wiring diagram.  I
need to make a copy of that to keep in the car.

The problem was a combination of things.  First was that somewhere in the cars
past an electronic fuel pump was add to replace the mechanical pump.  When
they wired it in they pirated the green lead to the reverse lights switch for
power instead of running power from the white side as it is on the cars that
came equipped with electric fuel pumps.  By moving the power take off to the
white circuit the I was able to get it back home, but still had a problem.  If
I had a fuse in the green circuit the car would start when the key was turned
to the on position and the starter would not disengage.  Mind you I didn't
turn the key to the start position, just to the on position.  So the next
morning I spent a few more hours of consulting the wirering diagram and
systematically eliminating branches of the green circuit I traced the problem
down to the branch that carries the diodes for the warning lights.
Specifically the one for the catalytic converter I believe.  One end of the
diode is connected to the same  ignition switch lead the runs up to the
starter solenoid.  When the key was turned to the on position and the green
circuit was energized, power was moving through the diode and energizing the
solenoid and thus the starter.  I need to test the diode to be sure, but with
the problem isolated we headed of to the ABFM

A weekend of firsts.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 30 10:43:17 2010
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:43:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Weekend of firsts
In-Reply-To: <E554FBCED3834DFB908BA38455B369F3@psych.washington.edu>
References: <E554FBCED3834DFB908BA38455B369F3@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <745043.67592.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Rich's problem is exactly what I experienced after our last NOSHIT.  Rich was 
kind enough to come by and share his knowledge and his time to figure mine out 
too.  Now, for the first time, I have full instruments, turn signals, and brake 
lights.  Thanks for taking the time to help others, Rich.  The car is fantastic 
now.

 Edward Perez
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/




________________________________
From: Richard Ball <richb at u.washington.edu>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 8:39:03 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Weekend of firsts

Well this past weekend was a weekend of first for us.  It was the first time I
washed and vacuumed the Midget.  My focus has been on mechanical versus
appearance so far and have either been fixing things or driving it.  Haven't
been too worried about cleaning it.  The reason for giving it a good cleaning
was another first and that was entering it into it's first car show on
Saturday.  Now some of you have seen my car and know it's not "show" worthy,
but the Bellevue ABFM is a "bring 'um if you've got 'um" type of thing.  Since
we got our car running last spring for the first time since 1986 I thought it
would be fun.  It was.  The last first for the weekend and one that almost
kept us out of the show was having the car leave us stranded for the first
time at 10:30 Friday night.

Susan told me when we first got the car running that she would never be mad if
the car left us stranded as long as I kept a pair of walking shoes for her in
the trunk.  I had my tools with me, so while I fiddled with the car she
slipped on her walking shoes.  Thanks for the vote of confidence.  Well she
was right in that I wasn't able to figure out the short  that was blowing the
fuse so off we walked so I could consult the manual and wiring diagram.  I
need to make a copy of that to keep in the car.

The problem was a combination of things.  First was that somewhere in the cars
past an electronic fuel pump was add to replace the mechanical pump.  When
they wired it in they pirated the green lead to the reverse lights switch for
power instead of running power from the white side as it is on the cars that
came equipped with electric fuel pumps.  By moving the power take off to the
white circuit the I was able to get it back home, but still had a problem.  If
I had a fuse in the green circuit the car would start when the key was turned
to the on position and the starter would not disengage.  Mind you I didn't
turn the key to the start position, just to the on position.  So the next
morning I spent a few more hours of consulting the wirering diagram and
systematically eliminating branches of the green circuit I traced the problem
down to the branch that carries the diodes for the warning lights.
Specifically the one for the catalytic converter I believe.  One end of the
diode is connected to the same  ignition switch lead the runs up to the
starter solenoid.  When the key was turned to the on position and the green
circuit was energized, power was moving through the diode and energizing the
solenoid and thus the starter.  I need to test the diode to be sure, but with
the problem isolated we headed of to the ABFM

A weekend of firsts.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa
Suggested annual donation  $12.75
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
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From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jul 30 15:00:24 2010
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:00:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
Message-ID: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

I just had to share this amongst those I consider as 
friends....  (Ed, you can read it too;-)


This is a message from a potential bidder on 4    $2.00 spark plugs I 
have on ebay right now.

"Are these actually Bosch wr8ds spark plugs? I cannot see the numbers 
on your photo. I checked your website and searched for Bosch wr8ds 
and it shows none. Your wesbite only shows Bosch wr7ds which will not 
work in my car. Another question: What is your return policy if I 
order the Bosch wr8ds here and You send me Bosch wr7ds? It appears 
that's all You have, according to your website and I cannot see why 
You would sell wr8ds here and not on your website. Would I get a full 
refund, including shipping if I received the wrong items? A Bosch 
wr7ds is NOT the same as a wr8ds. Perhaps it might work in some of 
the craptacular cars made in England but not in a high quality and 
high precision Porsche!
Please advise and please be precise. I need to know exactly what I'm 
buying, not just something that is supposed to work according to some 
British joker or anyone else's opinion. Exact part number as written 
on the spark plugs only please.
Thank You! "

Rather than candy, I think I'll send some Prozac.

Peter C.

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jul 30 15:28:45 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4C53440D.9040100@justbrits.com>

<< I think I'll send some Prozac. >>

Want me to send you some Vicodin to include, Peter ??
[I do NOT have 'weak' ones either<G>!!]
Don't think Prozac alone is gonna be enough !?!?!

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jul 30 15:27:31 2010
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:27:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

You're not going to believe this but I know this guy. He had his Porsche parked 
next to my Pink Car in the Lime Rock concours in 1993.

He asked me why I had my car in a concours. He then added "it's just a Sprite". 

 
jay




________________________________
From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 5:00:24 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content

I just had to share this amongst those I consider as friends....  (Ed, you can 
read it too;-)


This is a message from a potential bidder on 4    $2.00 spark plugs I have on 
ebay right now.

"Are these actually Bosch wr8ds spark plugs? I cannot see the numbers on your 
photo. I checked your website and searched for Bosch wr8ds and it shows none. 
Your wesbite only shows Bosch wr7ds which will not work in my car. Another 
question: What is your return policy if I order the Bosch wr8ds here and You 
send me Bosch wr7ds? It appears that's all You have, according to your website 
and I cannot see why You would sell wr8ds here and not on your website. Would I 
get a full refund, including shipping if I received the wrong items? A Bosch 
wr7ds is NOT the same as a wr8ds. Perhaps it might work in some of the 
craptacular cars made in England but not in a high quality and high precision 
Porsche!
Please advise and please be precise. I need to know exactly what I'm buying, not 
just something that is supposed to work according to some British joker or 
anyone else's opinion. Exact part number as written on the spark plugs only 
please.
Thank You! "

Rather than candy, I think I'll send some Prozac.

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Jul 30 15:37:30 2010
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:37:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <8vjs1g$8roobk@email.mtu.edu>

Would that be real Prozac or its generic substitute?
(Here we go! - LOL)



>Rather than candy, I think I'll send some Prozac.
>
>Peter C.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Jul 30 16:02:47 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:02:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C534C07.27218.1B814E0@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Did he pronounce it "Porsh-sha" ??
He must have got his knickers in a twist,,, !!

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 30 Jul 2010 at 14:27, Jay wrote:

> He had his Porsche parked 
> next to my Pink Car in the Lime Rock concours in 1993.

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jul 30 16:04:33 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:04:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C534C71.8020006@justbrits.com>

<< ..."it's just a Sprite". >>

Ya shoulda told him that you didn't wanna bring yer
MG Midget 'cause it woulda showed off [and been better
than] his Porch, Jay !!

<G>!!

TRUE STORY:

Some idiot driving an "ADMITTED TO" 1970 396 SS Chevelle
CLONE was at a "Cruise" a couple weeks ago and asked me
why I brought my El Camino !!!

How's THAT for "stupid" ?!?!?  I just looked at him <G> !!
[for those of you that KNOW me personally] SHUT UP,
'cause I WAS 'speechless' !!!!

I wasn't even gonna tell the story 'cause even now, I still
CAN'T believe it !!!

UN-real<G> !!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[Including a LOTS of Spridget 'stuff']

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 16:06:13 2010
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:06:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=K73+=fwovv8_y5qnvuvaSitGQgK=vJ=6ZRB2G@mail.gmail.com>

I sometimes run things starting at $0.99 with no reserve.  Some things
only get to $2-3.  People ask all kinds of crazy questions and want
the seller to do more than $4 worth of work to let them know something
about the item.

From millerls at ado13.com  Fri Jul 30 16:08:39 2010
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:08:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <08B523DB-0102-47C6-B3FD-F4ACA623A96B@ado13.com>

That's why I have owned Porsche's for 40+ years and have never considered
joining the Porsche club.

Larry

On Jul 30, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Jay wrote:

> You're not going to believe this but I know this guy. He had his Porsche
parked
> next to my Pink Car in the Lime Rock concours in 1993.
>
> He asked me why I had my car in a concours. He then added "it's just a
Sprite".
>
>
> jay
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 5:00:24 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
>
> I just had to share this amongst those I consider as friends....  (Ed, you
can
> read it too;-)
>
>
> This is a message from a potential bidder on 4    $2.00 spark plugs I have
on
> ebay right now.
>
> "Are these actually Bosch wr8ds spark plugs? I cannot see the numbers on
your
> photo. I checked your website and searched for Bosch wr8ds and it shows
none.
> Your wesbite only shows Bosch wr7ds which will not work in my car. Another
> question: What is your return policy if I order the Bosch wr8ds here and You
> send me Bosch wr7ds? It appears that's all You have, according to your
website
> and I cannot see why You would sell wr8ds here and not on your website.
Would I
> get a full refund, including shipping if I received the wrong items? A Bosch
> wr7ds is NOT the same as a wr8ds. Perhaps it might work in some of the
> craptacular cars made in England but not in a high quality and high
precision
> Porsche!
> Please advise and please be precise. I need to know exactly what I'm buying,
not
> just something that is supposed to work according to some British joker or
> anyone else's opinion. Exact part number as written on the spark plugs only
> please.
> Thank You! "
>
> Rather than candy, I think I'll send some Prozac.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 16:18:45 2010
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:18:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Bugeye?
Message-ID: <AANLkTimebWhj=gXpUrkSE4azw6Q0E7rZn7MEMV5tNgSa@mail.gmail.com>

Help me out. .  .

I thought that there were 1961 Bugeyes sold to Australia as knock downs to
avoid a tax?

Kirk
59 1275

From refisk at chartermi.net  Fri Jul 30 16:28:28 2010
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick Fisk)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:28:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <08B523DB-0102-47C6-B3FD-F4ACA623A96B@ado13.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<08B523DB-0102-47C6-B3FD-F4ACA623A96B@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <0601C00302F542A586A94DED16003D1D@RickPC>

Tell him that either plug will work just fine in his VW Special.  :-)

 ________________________________
>> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Sent: Fri, July 30, 2010 5:00:24 PM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
>>
>> I just had to share this amongst those I consider as friends....  (Ed, 
>> you
> can
>> read it too;-)
>>
>>
>> This is a message from a potential bidder on 4    $2.00 spark plugs I 
>> have
> on
>> ebay right now.
>>
>> "Are these actually Bosch wr8ds spark plugs? I cannot see the numbers on
> your
>> photo. I checked your website and searched for Bosch wr8ds and it shows
> none.
>> Your wesbite only shows Bosch wr7ds which will not work in my car. 
>> Another
>> question: What is your return policy if I order the Bosch wr8ds here and 
>> You
>> send me Bosch wr7ds? It appears that's all You have, according to your
> website
>> and I cannot see why You would sell wr8ds here and not on your website.
> Would I
>> get a full refund, including shipping if I received the wrong items? A 
>> Bosch
>> wr7ds is NOT the same as a wr8ds. Perhaps it might work in some of the
>> craptacular cars made in England but not in a high quality and high
> precision
>> Porsche!
>> Please advise and please be precise. I need to know exactly what I'm 
>> buying,
> not
>> just something that is supposed to work according to some British joker 
>> or
>> anyone else's opinion. Exact part number as written on the spark plugs 
>> only
>> please.
>> Thank You! "
>>
>> Rather than candy, I think I'll send some Prozac.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 30 16:30:08 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:30:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <08B523DB-0102-47C6-B3FD-F4ACA623A96B@ado13.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<08B523DB-0102-47C6-B3FD-F4ACA623A96B@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <C2DB924F200C41D895D50208229659DB@spider>

This happens with a lot of makes; even Jaguars. A friend of mine showed at
one event with his unrestored XK-140. The guy next to him asked him to move
it. ...bill in oregon
===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:09 PM
To: Jay
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content

That's why I have owned Porsche's for 40+ years and have never considered
joining the Porsche club.

Larry

On Jul 30, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Jay wrote:

> You're not going to believe this but I know this guy. He had his Porsche
parked
> next to my Pink Car in the Lime Rock concours in 1993.
>
> He asked me why I had my car in a concours. He then added "it's just a
Sprite".
>
>
> jay

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jul 30 16:39:07 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:39:07 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <C2DB924F200C41D895D50208229659DB@spider>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><780480.42864.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<08B523DB-0102-47C6-B3FD-F4ACA623A96B@ado13.com>,
	<C2DB924F200C41D895D50208229659DB@spider>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w23E9F315BE0376B68A7406B8AA0@phx.gbl>

I hope your friend told him where to go with his car.



ED



> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:30:08 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
>
> This happens with a lot of makes; even Jaguars. A friend of mine showed at
> one event with his unrestored XK-140. The guy next to him asked him to move
> it. ...bill in oregon
> ===========================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:09 PM
> To: Jay
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
>
> That's why I have owned Porsche's for 40+ years and have never considered
> joining the Porsche club.
>
> Larry
>
> On Jul 30, 2010, at 2:27 PM, Jay wrote:
>
> > You're not going to believe this but I know this guy. He had his Porsche
> parked
> > next to my Pink Car in the Lime Rock concours in 1993.
> >
> > He asked me why I had my car in a concours. He then added "it's just a
> Sprite".
> >
> >
> > jay
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jul 30 16:49:44 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:49:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=K73+=fwovv8_y5qnvuvaSitGQgK=vJ=6ZRB2G@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<AANLkTi=K73+=fwovv8_y5qnvuvaSitGQgK=vJ=6ZRB2G@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w316AC763978A1F96907E4EB8AA0@phx.gbl>

My son has recently graduated and started his own business
http://foxhoundstudio.com/ and one of the things that I told him from my past
experience ( selling real estate ) is that sometimes dealing with cheap
products is much more time consuming to deal with because a dollar is worth
more to a person making 20,000 than 10000 is worth to a person making 200,000.
( roughly speaking )

>
> I sometimes run things starting at $0.99 with no reserve. Some things
> only get to $2-3. People ask all kinds of crazy questions and want
> the seller to do more than $4 worth of work to let them know something
> about the item.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 30 16:57:33 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:57:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Bugeye?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimebWhj=gXpUrkSE4azw6Q0E7rZn7MEMV5tNgSa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimebWhj=gXpUrkSE4azw6Q0E7rZn7MEMV5tNgSa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C145575F13424D8790E22A162F7ED91C@spider>

>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin-Healey_Sprite
The Sprite's chassis design is notable in that it was the world's first
volume-production sports car to use integrated construction, where the sheet
metal body panels (apart from the bonnet) take many of the structural
stresses. The two front 'chassis' legs which project forward from the
passenger compartment, however, stop the shell being a full monocoque. The
design is said to have been influenced by the Jaguar D-type.

Engine: 19581961 - 948cc cc A-Series I4, 43 hp (32 kW) at 5200 rpm and 52
lbf7ft (71 Nm) at 3300 rpm
A car was tested by the British magazine The Motor in 1958 had a top speed
of 82.9 mph (133.4 km/h) and could accelerate from 0-60 mph (97 km/h) in
20.5 seconds. A fuel consumption of 43 miles per imperial gallon (6.6 L/100
km; 36 mpg-US) was recorded. The test car cost #678 including taxes of #223.
...bill in corvallis
=================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 3:19 PM
To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Bugeye?

Help me out. .  .

I thought that there were 1961 Bugeyes sold to Australia as knock downs to
avoid a tax?

Kirk
59 1275
_______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jul 30 17:30:24 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:30:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Donna Mae Mims
In-Reply-To: <B1148012C5224ACAA7B82DFEB5FFDC91@blackbox2>
References: <B1148012C5224ACAA7B82DFEB5FFDC91@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <8ADDAC9FE233472680E290E32EDD2409@spider>

A tip of the hat to those that have driven before; I didn't know this.
...bill in corvallis
"In 1963, Donna Mae Mims won the Sports Car Club of America national racing
championship driving a pink Austin-Healey 1959 Bugeye Sprite that once had
belonged to Dr. Jonas Salk. 
She won the 1963 Class H championship after competing in ten sanctioned
races in her Austin Healey Sprite. She placed first in two of the ten races,
placed second three times. 
In the twenty year history of the Sports Car Club of America to that point,
Mims was the first woman to win a national racing championship."
>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Mae_Mims

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Fri Jul 30 17:54:11 2010
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:54:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <8vjs1g$8roobk@email.mtu.edu>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<8vjs1g$8roobk@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <4C536623.1010703@cox.net>

On 7/30/2010 2:37 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
> Would that be real Prozac or its generic substitute?
> (Here we go! - LOL)
>
>
>
>> Rather than candy, I think I'll send some Prozac.
>>
>> Peter C.
>
Prozac isn't effective for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). But 
hydrocodone helps.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jul 30 18:08:48 2010
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:08:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <F102323F-8992-4980-B62B-C037363B670D@comcast.net>

Just tell him that they're all indexed and "resistance matched".. that should
get his attention.  Or maybe you don't list the "8's" because the fake Porsche
guys snap them up to quickly and you want to make sure that only knowledgeable
Porsche guys get them.  And then refuse his bid and send a picture of crushed
"8's"...  ;-)

Lester


On Jul 30, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote:

> I just had to share this amongst those I consider as friends....  (Ed, you
can read it too;-)
>
>
> This is a message from a potential bidder on 4    $2.00 spark plugs I have
on ebay right now.
>
> "Are these actually Bosch wr8ds spark plugs? I cannot see the numbers on
your photo. I checked your website and searched for Bosch wr8ds and it shows
none. Your wesbite only shows Bosch wr7ds which will not work in my car.
Another question: What is your return policy if I order the Bosch wr8ds here
and You send me Bosch wr7ds? It appears that's all You have, according to your
website and I cannot see why You would sell wr8ds here and not on your
website. Would I get a full refund, including shipping if I received the wrong
items? A Bosch wr7ds is NOT the same as a wr8ds. Perhaps it might work in some
of the craptacular cars made in England but not in a high quality and high
precision Porsche!
> Please advise and please be precise. I need to know exactly what I'm buying,
not just something that is supposed to work according to some British joker or
anyone else's opinion. Exact part number as written on the spark plugs only
please.
> Thank You! "
>
> Rather than candy, I think I'll send some Prozac.
>
> Peter C.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Jul 30 18:12:51 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:12:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <4C536623.1010703@cox.net>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<8vjs1g$8roobk@email.mtu.edu>, <4C536623.1010703@cox.net>
Message-ID: <4C536A83.8117.22F2872@kk7ss.verizon.net>

A .357 is *very* effective

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 30 Jul 2010 at 16:54, David Ambrose wrote:

> Prozac isn't effective for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). But 
> hydrocodone helps.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 18:16:28 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:16:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Still trying to trap my ill kitty
Message-ID: <AANLkTinb012i8OT5dRBPDc9Ms2e4mCqV6zN8xY0-dtDD@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I am so heart broken because my ill kitty is still in the wooded area of the
trailer park that I can't even look at cars tools or web car stuff. Even my
new rebuilt starter sits in the trunk as I have no interest to install or
look at my Spridget now. I saw her, Stitches once a day in the wooded shrubs
for almost 2 weeks now but then she runs in deeper although I'm back to
crying again as I haven't seen her in 2 full days.

I have had to return my Have-A-Heart trap already for failures and I now
found a better one recommended by the associations which catch and spay
& neuter feral cats as well as the SPCA. I ordered it today but won't get it
till Wednesday  then I leave for my western trip for 2 full weeks but this
one I can put a cloth over top and it won't interfere with the mechanism.

I have read many books websites, and spoken with experts and found that I
have a displaced cat, this is a common problem when people go to the vet, or
groomer or like with me pet sitter and their indoor cat gets loose. The
displaced cat has a hard time figuring out where they are and where home is
as well as the most important thing they feel they are prey and everything
including the owner is a predator. This is even more common with the high
strung Calico cat because they have all the "flavors" of cat in one cat.
Making them especially wacky like Stitches. My cat would hide for an hr if
someone came to the door even after they left. Stitches is scared as hell
and afraid she will be eaten.

The other day I was advised to put the trap near a big bowl of food as well
as put food in the trap so the other cats won't go in and being Stitches is
not invited to feast with others "yet" she would go in the trap. Well not
only did I get no cat in my trap none of the food was touched. I am assuming
they all ate at one of the trailers which feeds all cats. I was now told to
put Stitches bedding and toys in the carrier without food.
And suggested leave it locked open so she gets in and stays in without fear
of the trap. Then after a few days set the trap. It is a long shot but I'll
try anything.

I will not give up i am loyal to Stitches even if she doesn't recognize me
from fear. She is my morning alarm clock for school. I am also going to make
more color posters and bring them door to door especially to the trailers
which feed all the cats and find out if she is eating there as if they are
all strays she may be invited.

I'm also going to order a throw net but I would rather make one how do you
think they weight them? With thick rope on the bottom?
http://www.livetrap.com/cgi/search.cgi?user_id=&database=dbase1.exm&template=template1.shtml&0_option=1&0=TN4

Thanks for all the encouragement you are all so very kind, any other ideas
welcome,
Linda

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jul 30 19:41:06 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:41:06 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <4C536623.1010703@cox.net>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<8vjs1g$8roobk@email.mtu.edu>, <4C536623.1010703@cox.net>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w1687C7633E17089D501A95B8AB0@phx.gbl>

OCD?  You mean that disorder that makes people collect thinks compulsively?
Maybe we can get a group discount?  ;)

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )
http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg

> On 7/30/2010 2:37 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
> > Would that be real Prozac or its generic substitute?
> > (Here we go! - LOL)
> >
> >
> >
> >> Rather than candy, I think I'll send some Prozac.
> >>
> >> Peter C.
> >
> Prozac isn't effective for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). But
> hydrocodone helps.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave Ambrose
> _______________________________________________

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jul 30 19:45:45 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:45:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <4C536A83.8117.22F2872@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, ,
	<8vjs1g$8roobk@email.mtu.edu>, 
	<4C536623.1010703@cox.net>,<4C536A83.8117.22F2872@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w6187AE505F972F5F51FD9CB8AB0@phx.gbl>

I've heard that 222s will do the trick.  ( two .22s )



This stems from a local story of a Dr who had cancer and an automatic .22
pistol.

The cure for cancer?  222s.


>
> A .357 is *very* effective
>
> --
> Dave G. KK7SS
> DN06ig
> '65 Sprite - work in progress
> '76 Midget - nearly ready
>
>
> On 30 Jul 2010 at 16:54, David Ambrose wrote:
>
> > Prozac isn't effective for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). But
> > hydrocodone helps.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation $12.75
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jul 30 19:53:45 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 01:53:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w1687C7633E17089D501A95B8AB0@phx.gbl>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, ,
	<8vjs1g$8roobk@email.mtu.edu>, <4C536623.1010703@cox.net>,
	<BAY147-w1687C7633E17089D501A95B8AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w4DE3FC302EEC48EE64045B8AB0@phx.gbl>

That should be "things" not "thinks".  You know I don't collect thinks ...
:(


> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca

>
> OCD? You mean that disorder that makes people collect thinks compulsively?
> Maybe we can get a group discount? ;)
>
> Robert Duquette
>
> > On 7/30/2010 2:37 PM, Tim Collins wrote:
> > > Would that be real Prozac or its generic substitute?
> > > (Here we go! - LOL)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Rather than candy, I think I'll send some Prozac.
> > >>
> > >> Peter C.
> > >
> > Prozac isn't effective for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). But
> > hydrocodone helps.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dave Ambrose
> > _______________________________________________

From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Fri Jul 30 20:03:48 2010
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 22:03:48 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Bugeye?
Message-ID: <3ada1.6d42c8f2.3984de84@aol.com>

I have a RHD Bugeye I purchased in August of 1985 with a VIN of AN5 47736.
Is this a 60 or 61?
 
Rudy Streng
Lenoir, NC

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Jul 30 20:05:05 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:05:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <BAY147-w1687C7633E17089D501A95B8AB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C878D2E1.29387%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> disorder that makes people collect thinks compulsively?
Shouldn't that be thoughts rather than thinks?

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jul 30 21:06:50 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:06:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsches and  eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <4C534C07.27218.1B814E0@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <18975.7816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 7/30/10, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:
> Did he pronounce it "Porsh-sha" ??
> He must have got his knickers in a twist,,, !!

In the early 2000s I worked for a guy who had a 1980s Ford Escort he drove daily. Upon getting a large bonus, he bought a 911. When he came in with it, one of the guys (a very regal Armenian) said, "Ah, Chris...I see you brought the Porsche today. It looks beautiful." Chris replied "Por-SHA!! Por-SHA!! It's pronounced Por-SHA!!"  

So the next day he drives the Escort. 

Of course, as he walks in the Armenian says "Ah, Chris...I see you brought the Escort-tah today...". 

Beautiful.

Ron

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jul 30 21:55:56 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:55:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <20100730140006.SM03956@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <16B07020C35044C8B425DBBD5B32C89E@blackbox2>

The difference between wr7ds and wr8ds is one fricken heat range.
Either would work just fine, regardless of what he putting them in.

Just tell him you don't want to sell them to him.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Jul 30 22:19:22 2010
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:19:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Stupid is....
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=vVW0p+aemFwBvfP3m1rji3HKJe7q0hx-iBWav@mail.gmail.com>

SEDRO-WOOLLEY, Wash. (AP)  Two men who were apparently trying to take an
unusual thrill ride were seriously injured in an explosion at a shop that
builds and services race cars in Washington state.

Fire Chief Dean Klinger told the Skagit Valley Herald the men put about four
gallons of methanol in a 55-gallon barrel in the parking lot Sunday night,
sat on top and lit it for a "barrel ride."

Klinger says, "Apparently it was supposed to slide across the parking lot
like a rocket. Instead, it blew up."

He says one end of the barrel flew 120 feet.

The men were responsive when paramedics arrived at Funk Racing. They were
taken to a local hospital, then flown to Harborview Medical Center in
Seattle with severe burns.

--

From 13book at msn.com  Sat Jul 31 00:02:01 2010
From: 13book at msn.com (13book at msn.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:02:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] posting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinX1esH8cZ-5C-VETj_REn5uv5vhkkz_HDNcLEH@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTinX1esH8cZ-5C-VETj_REn5uv5vhkkz_HDNcLEH@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL102-W8176B76A1D1328D6529CFCEAB0@phx.gbl>

Hey Mike, I'm in Seattle and my vin is AN5L46375.  Thanks, Larry



Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:16:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] posting
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com
To: 13book at msn.com
CC: spridgets at autox.team.net

You just did.  Welcome Larry.  Where are you located?  You have posted to the
best place to be for information, help and useless opinions on the care and
upkeep of your pride and joy.  We sometimes get off topic, but there are a
great bunch of people here as you will find out.  I'm sure I won't be the
first to mention it, but there is no such thing as a 1961 Bugeye.  Bugeyes
were manufactured from 1958 to 1960.  Your car was most likely made in 1960
and first sold in your home state in 1961.  to some state registration
records, that makes it a 1961.  If you post the chassis number, someone here
will tell you exactly when it was on the assembly line.  For instance, my 1960
Bugeye has a chassis number of AN5-L/34172.  According to my British Motor
Industry Heritage Trust Ceritficate (you DO have one of these, don't you?) it
was on the assembly line from 26 Feb - 2 March 1960 and "despatched" 7 March
1960 to Los Angeles, USA, making it a 1960 Bugeye.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

P.S. You will probably be asked your opinion on beer, cats, Frank Zappa and a
myriad of other subjects in the near future.  You'll see what I mean.


On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:11 PM, <13book at msn.com> wrote:

Hi, how do I post on the site?  I can't seem to be able to.  Thanks for your
help.  Larry  ( I have a '61 bugeye)
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From colin at spriteparts.com.au  Sat Jul 31 00:04:35 2010
From: colin at spriteparts.com.au (Colin Dodds)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:04:35 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Bugeye?
Message-ID: <078301cb3076$41a4baa0$0200000a@Workstation1>

G'day Kirk

The last Bugeye, AN5/50116, was built on the UK assembly line and left the
factory in May 1961.

CKD cars were imported to Australia from September 1959 to early 1961.  They
came here as CKD, where local content such as trres, battery etc were added.
The local content (by weight) reduced the import duties.

Visit my web site, click on Links, and then click on the link to the Sprite
Register in the second paragraph.

hope that helps, and avagoodday
Colin
www.SpriteParts.com.au

From 13book at msn.com  Sat Jul 31 00:11:08 2010
From: 13book at msn.com (13book at msn.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:11:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] posting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik+S3QpZYaA1R_0qAi+FKj09vBgLqkH9mohGo+x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>,
	<AANLkTinX1esH8cZ-5C-VETj_REn5uv5vhkkz_HDNcLEH@mail.gmail.com>,
	<AANLkTik+S3QpZYaA1R_0qAi+FKj09vBgLqkH9mohGo+x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL102-W22BC421333843FADDF3756CEAB0@phx.gbl>

okay, I get it...my AN5L46375 is registered and licensed as a 1961
vehicle...not to be confused with being built in 1961.  thanks,Larry
Greetings from Seattle!



Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:50:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] posting
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com
CC: 13book at msn.com; spridgets at autox.team.net

The ONLY true 1961 Bugeye's were made in Oz, as they were imported as a CKD
kit.


On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:16 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com
<rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

You just did.  Welcome Larry.  Where are you located?  You have posted to
the best place to be for information, help and useless opinions on the care
and upkeep of your pride and joy.  We sometimes get off topic, but there are
a great bunch of people here as you will find out.  I'm sure I won't be the
first to mention it, but there is no such thing as a 1961 Bugeye.  Bugeyes
were manufactured from 1958 to 1960.  Your car was most likely made in 1960
and first sold in your home state in 1961.  to some state registration
records, that makes it a 1961.  If you post the chassis number, someone here
will tell you exactly when it was on the assembly line.  For instance, my
1960 Bugeye has a chassis number of AN5-L/34172.  According to my British
Motor Industry Heritage Trust Ceritficate (you DO have one of these, don't
you?) it was on the assembly line from 26 Feb - 2 March 1960 and
"despatched" 7 March 1960 to Los Angeles, USA, making it a 1960 Bugeye.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

P.S. You will probably be asked your opinion on beer, cats, Frank Zappa and
a myriad of other subjects in the near future.  You'll see what I mean.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:11 PM, <13book at msn.com> wrote:

> Hi, how do I post on the site?  I can't seem to be able to.  Thanks for
> your
> help.  Larry  ( I have a '61 bugeye)
> _______________________________________________
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 06:32:18 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:32:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Donna Mae Mims
In-Reply-To: <8ADDAC9FE233472680E290E32EDD2409@spider>
References: <B1148012C5224ACAA7B82DFEB5FFDC91@blackbox2>
	<8ADDAC9FE233472680E290E32EDD2409@spider>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimfuiQ00dr0uFF3q8YQ6i8T_VXDaeCc8+UMU6Wk@mail.gmail.com>

Cool she was so awesome even to her wake.
I suppose "pink" is helping me out of my funk.
Lin

On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 7:30 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> A tip of the hat to those that have driven before; I didn't know this.
> ...bill in corvallis
> "In 1963, Donna Mae Mims won the Sports Car Club of America national racing
> championship driving a pink Austin-Healey 1959 Bugeye Sprite that once had
> belonged to Dr. Jonas Salk.
> She won the 1963 Class H championship after competing in ten sanctioned
> races in her Austin Healey Sprite. She placed first in two of the ten
> races,
> placed second three times.
> In the twenty year history of the Sports Car Club of America to that point,
> Mims was the first woman to win a national racing championship."
> >From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_Mae_Mims
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 06:43:48 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:43:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693
Message-ID: <AANLkTinXXURfengjaCvAkTDAHrdX=MEbqin8KkQ7Wti5@mail.gmail.com>

Speaking of "Pink" did you guys & gals see the "Pink" Sprite MKII on ebay?
This is the same one selling for 8K 2 years ago. I doubt he will get the 18K
he wants but this is the very first time I saw the rubber mat on the floor
which is in mint condition also a good view of the very rare speckle carpet
in the rear. If I saw that mat in it the first time I might have coughed up
the 8K then. I asked him for chassis photos, and I don't know what the
offers so far are.
Lin

Ebay #270611971693

Link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-Austin-Healey-Sprite-Mark-/270611971693?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f01bafe6d

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 06:45:18 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:45:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Bugeye?
In-Reply-To: <078301cb3076$41a4baa0$0200000a@Workstation1>
References: <078301cb3076$41a4baa0$0200000a@Workstation1>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikumEvzUXqCpAFwOc0u266Sq5SdEa+14oLqEXtC@mail.gmail.com>

So who has the last Bugeye, AN5/50116?
Lin

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Colin Dodds <colin at spriteparts.com.au>wrote:

> G'day Kirk
>
> The last Bugeye, AN5/50116, was built on the UK assembly line and left the
> factory in May 1961.
>
> CKD cars were imported to Australia from September 1959 to early 1961.
>  They
> came here as CKD, where local content such as trres, battery etc were
> added.
> The local content (by weight) reduced the import duties.
>
> Visit my web site, click on Links, and then click on the link to the Sprite
> Register in the second paragraph.
>
> hope that helps, and avagoodday
> Colin
> www.SpriteParts.com.au
> _______________________________________________
>
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 06:54:37 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:54:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] posting
In-Reply-To: <COL102-W22BC421333843FADDF3756CEAB0@phx.gbl>
References: <COL102-W36DC3EB732FB43DB5C1080CEAA0@phx.gbl>
	<AANLkTinX1esH8cZ-5C-VETj_REn5uv5vhkkz_HDNcLEH@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTik+S3QpZYaA1R_0qAi+FKj09vBgLqkH9mohGo+x@mail.gmail.com>
	<COL102-W22BC421333843FADDF3756CEAB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikuzerPc=NptgBr=p8Lp-5ZKJSRVFpyGM5cwXFx@mail.gmail.com>

Welcome aboard Larry,
Linda from NJ

62 California Deep Pink Sprite
58 Bugeye later vin with 59 frame structures

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:11 AM, <13book at msn.com> wrote:

> okay, I get it...my AN5L46375 is registered and licensed as a 1961
> vehicle...not to be confused with being built in 1961.  thanks,Larry
> Greetings from Seattle!
>
>
>
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:50:58 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] posting
> From: tequila.brad at gmail.com
> To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com
> CC: 13book at msn.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> The ONLY true 1961 Bugeye's were made in Oz, as they were imported as a CKD
> kit.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 3:16 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com
> <rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> You just did.  Welcome Larry.  Where are you located?  You have posted to
> the best place to be for information, help and useless opinions on the care
> and upkeep of your pride and joy.  We sometimes get off topic, but there
> are
> a great bunch of people here as you will find out.  I'm sure I won't be the
> first to mention it, but there is no such thing as a 1961 Bugeye.  Bugeyes
> were manufactured from 1958 to 1960.  Your car was most likely made in 1960
> and first sold in your home state in 1961.  to some state registration
> records, that makes it a 1961.  If you post the chassis number, someone
> here
> will tell you exactly when it was on the assembly line.  For instance, my
> 1960 Bugeye has a chassis number of AN5-L/34172.  According to my British
> Motor Industry Heritage Trust Ceritficate (you DO have one of these, don't
> you?) it was on the assembly line from 26 Feb - 2 March 1960 and
> "despatched" 7 March 1960 to Los Angeles, USA, making it a 1960 Bugeye.
>
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> P.S. You will probably be asked your opinion on beer, cats, Frank Zappa and
> a myriad of other subjects in the near future.  You'll see what I mean.
>
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:11 PM, <13book at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi, how do I post on the site?  I can't seem to be able to.  Thanks for
> > your
> > help.  Larry  ( I have a '61 bugeye)
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> > Suggested annual donation  $12.75
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>
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From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Sat Jul 31 07:06:25 2010
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:06:25 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets 1961 Bugeye?
Message-ID: <a43c9.498c931f.398579d1@aol.com>

Ed responded with:
 
There ARE nor there EVER been any 1961 Frogeyes, Rudy.
YOU should KNOW better !!
 
And in turn, I wrote:
 
Ed,
This group has just been too boring and needed a kick in the butt!
According to Anders Ditlev Clausager in his book "Sprites & Midgets", on 
page 219, there were 41 Mark 1 Sprites built. Completely knocked down export, 
Right-hand drive.
Of course Colin thinks he has them all down there in Oz.
 
Rudy with a RHD knocked up Bugeye

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 31 07:12:09 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 06:12:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Bugeye?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikumEvzUXqCpAFwOc0u266Sq5SdEa+14oLqEXtC@mail.gmail.com>
References: <078301cb3076$41a4baa0$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<AANLkTikumEvzUXqCpAFwOc0u266Sq5SdEa+14oLqEXtC@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AE8F353D4D524E97AA8B8E357B7F993B@spider>

Google the number.  ...bill in corvallis
http://tinyurl.com/2a3uq9q

===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:45 AM
To: Colin Dodds
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1961 Bugeye?

So who has the last Bugeye, AN5/50116?
Lin

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Colin Dodds
<colin at spriteparts.com.au>wrote:

> G'day Kirk
>
> The last Bugeye, AN5/50116, was built on the UK assembly line and left the
> factory in May 1961.
>
> CKD cars were imported to Australia from September 1959 to early 1961.
>  They
> came here as CKD, where local content such as trres, battery etc were
> added.
> The local content (by weight) reduced the import duties.
>
> Visit my web site, click on Links, and then click on the link to the
Sprite
> Register in the second paragraph.
>
> hope that helps, and avagoodday
> Colin
> www.SpriteParts.com.au
> _______________________________________________

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 07:25:09 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:25:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets 1961 Bugeye?
In-Reply-To: <a43c9.498c931f.398579d1@aol.com>
References: <a43c9.498c931f.398579d1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiki8eCrvjUdg3rr8+dbZ-2MR7iuon9OBhD05HL2@mail.gmail.com>

Ok you hosers. I recall the thread (sorry Jay) about the homeless woman that
was "trying" to get knocked up by a Bugeye, but I COMPLETELY missed the
thread (sorry again Jay) about the guy knocking UP a Bugeye.
I hope it was whilst the exhaust was cool...
Proper protocol would require that at least Castrol be used for lubrication.
To prevent chafing, if nothing else...
RD Gardner, you're a film maker, this sounds like an opportunity for a
hilarious spoof on the South Park episode, where Mr. Garrison gets the pig
pregnant.

Robert Duquette

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:06 AM, <CAWS52803 at aol.com> wrote:

> Ed responded with:
>
> There ARE nor there EVER been any 1961 Frogeyes, Rudy.
> YOU should KNOW better !!
>
> And in turn, I wrote:
>
> Ed,
> This group has just been too boring and needed a kick in the butt!
> According to Anders Ditlev Clausager in his book "Sprites & Midgets", on
> page 219, there were 41 Mark 1 Sprites built. Completely knocked down
> export,
> Right-hand drive.
> Of course Colin thinks he has them all down there in Oz.
>
> Rudy with a RHD knocked up Bugeye
> _______________________________________________
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 07:28:30 2010
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:28:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinXXURfengjaCvAkTDAHrdX=MEbqin8KkQ7Wti5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinXXURfengjaCvAkTDAHrdX=MEbqin8KkQ7Wti5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTino2Ci+FQfKOgWaa9V_mE1gyEyf00znHJFvUhK2@mail.gmail.com>

List I just got a reply from the owner regarding the chassis shots and his
answer was "No".
I don't get it, maybe he was insulted when I said "at 18K why wouldn't you
buy a $35. hood emblem?"
Lin

My factory deep pink Sprite still has her emblem ; )


On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Speaking of "Pink" did you guys & gals see the "Pink" Sprite MKII on ebay?
> This is the same one selling for 8K 2 years ago. I doubt he will get the 18K
> he wants but this is the very first time I saw the rubber mat on the floor
> which is in mint condition also a good view of the very rare speckle carpet
> in the rear. If I saw that mat in it the first time I might have coughed up
> the 8K then. I asked him for chassis photos, and I don't know what the
> offers so far are.
> Lin
>
> Ebay #270611971693
>
> Link:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-Austin-Healey-Sprite-Mark-/270611971693?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f01bafe6d

From CAWS52803 at aol.com  Sat Jul 31 07:51:55 2010
From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:51:55 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets 1961 Bugeye?
Message-ID: <dfa0d.3deea68d.3985847b@aol.com>

I have the BMIHT certificate and here is what it has:
 
Car/Chassis Number    AN5/47736
Specification RHD,      Home Market
Date(s) Built               3-5 October 1961
Date Despatched        9 March 1961
Destination                 Car Mart, London
 
So, not only do I have a very rare Bugeye, but one that was delivered prior 
to its manufacture!
 
Of course no one would dare say that Anders made a typing error!
 
Rudy
 
PS: Thanks Colin for the Sprite site.  I'll pass it along to others here 
including my daughter with a 59 Bugeye.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Jul 31 08:27:31 2010
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:27:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsches and  eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <14091.53450.qm@web30704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <888410.50575.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mark,
When someone pays me a compliment and calls me "Mr. Sohve" instead of
So-ah-vay as it is intended, I politely thank them for the compliment before
making a correction, if at all. Doing it the way Chris did gives "car guys" a
bad name.

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Mark Wemple <markwemple at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
From: Mark Wemple <markwemple at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsches
and  eBay, no Spridget content
> To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Date:
Saturday, July 31, 2010, 8:15 AM
> Just out of curiosity, do you like it
> or
dislike it whan someone mis-pronounces 
> your name, especially when they know
how to do it
> correctly. Porsche is a family 
> name, a family name that IS
pronounced Porsch-a. Like it or
> dislike it. If you 
> can't say it
correctly, you're not a car guy. Dumbass,
> maybe, car guy, no.
>  Mark D.
Wemple, Esq.
> 359 Dun Robbin Drive
> Severna Park, Maryland 21146 
> 
> 
>
Tel. (410) 987-5831/ Fax. (410) 987-1410 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message
----
> From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
> To: Spridgets
<spridgets at autox.team.net>;
> Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
> Sent: Fri, July
30, 2010 11:06:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsches and eBay, no Spridget
> content
> 
> --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
Did he pronounce it "Porsh-sha" ??
> > He must have got his knickers in a
twist,,, !!
> 
> In the early 2000s I worked for a guy who had a 1980s Ford
>
Escort he drove 
> daily. Upon getting a large bonus, he bought a 911. When he
> came in with it, one 
> of the guys (a very regal Armenian) said, "Ah,
Chris...I
> see you brought the 
> Porsche today. It looks beautiful." Chris
replied
> "Por-SHA!! Por-SHA!! It's 
> pronounced Por-SHA!!"  
> 
> 
> So the
next day he drives the Escort. 
> 
> Of course, as he walks in the Armenian
says "Ah, Chris...I
> see you brought the 
> Escort-tah today...". 
> 
> 
>
Beautiful.
> 
> Ron
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From conen at bellsouth.net  Sat Jul 31 08:30:04 2010
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:30:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ebay, no spridget content
Message-ID: <969647.28439.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

A proper .222 Rem. would be just as effective from a much greater distance.  (Same weight bullet; almost triple the velocity. ;-))

>>per Robert Duquette...
>>I've heard that 222s will do the trick.  ( two .22s )
>>...
>>>>per DaveG...
>>>> A .357 is *very* effective

Ed in NC  :-) :-) :-)

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Jul 31 09:24:44 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:24:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 222 and some  spridget content
In-Reply-To: <969647.28439.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <969647.28439.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C54403C.31593.554451@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I also have a 222 Remington Magnum made by Walther... but I have to use 
a Lee hand loader... !! 
And it's noisy!!

And on the subject of noise...
Is it possible to have too much movement on the clutch of a '76 Midget 
(1500)??
If I push the pedal all the way to the floor there sometime is a 
screeching noise... If I stop about 3/4 of the way down there's no 
problem... !! 

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready


On 31 Jul 2010 at 7:30, Edmund Conen wrote:

> A proper .222 Rem. would be just as effective from a much greater distance.  (Same weight
> bullet; almost triple the velocity. ;-))
> 
> >>per Robert Duquette...
> >>I've heard that 222s will do the trick.  ( two .22s )
> >>...
> >>>>per DaveG...
> >>>> A .357 is *very* effective

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jul 31 09:46:39 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:46:39 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
In-Reply-To: <C878D2E1.29387%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <BAY147-w1687C7633E17089D501A95B8AB0@phx.gbl>,
	<C878D2E1.29387%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w50F4658F36FC0A6DCA6E23B8AB0@phx.gbl>

:(



Well ... it shoulda been a g instead of a k.  They're not even that close on
the keyboard ...

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada



> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:05:05 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] eBay, no Spridget content
> From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com
> To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net
>
> > disorder that makes people collect thinks compulsively?
> Shouldn't that be thoughts rather than thinks?

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 09:55:56 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:55:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTino2Ci+FQfKOgWaa9V_mE1gyEyf00znHJFvUhK2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinXXURfengjaCvAkTDAHrdX=MEbqin8KkQ7Wti5@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTino2Ci+FQfKOgWaa9V_mE1gyEyf00znHJFvUhK2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimWWfhS7Y1jZh9W7teTC_Y5SXOhfp990gaJxbHt@mail.gmail.com>

and maybe get the correct tonneau, and show some photos of the engine
compartment, and interior, and, and, and....
I would avoid this one, as it seems that something is being covered up on
this one.

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> List I just got a reply from the owner regarding the chassis shots and his
> answer was "No".
> I don't get it, maybe he was insulted when I said "at 18K why wouldn't you
> buy a $35. hood emblem?"
> Lin
>
> My factory deep pink Sprite still has her emblem ; )
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Speaking of "Pink" did you guys & gals see the "Pink" Sprite MKII on
> ebay?
> > This is the same one selling for 8K 2 years ago. I doubt he will get the
> 18K
> > he wants but this is the very first time I saw the rubber mat on the
> floor
> > which is in mint condition also a good view of the very rare speckle
> carpet
> > in the rear. If I saw that mat in it the first time I might have coughed
> up
> > the 8K then. I asked him for chassis photos, and I don't know what the
> > offers so far are.
> > Lin
> >
> > Ebay #270611971693
> >
> > Link:
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-Austin-Healey-Sprite-Mark-/270611971693?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f01bafe6d
> _______________________________________________
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 09:59:02 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 10:59:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 222 and some spridget content
In-Reply-To: <4C54403C.31593.554451@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <969647.28439.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<4C54403C.31593.554451@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik8sNwGRLM=pDr4P0_0NNsjM5p-Oa2QguEp4h3O@mail.gmail.com>

Get a pry bar, and push your harmonic balancer all the way back off the
front crossmember. Now, have an assistant push the clutch pedal all the way
down, while you observe the balancer. You may have some movement there,
which "could" indicate that the engine has worn thrust washers, or worst
case scenario, dropped one. The 1500 is notorious for thrust washer
problems.

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> I also have a 222 Remington Magnum made by Walther... but I have to use
> a Lee hand loader... !!
> And it's noisy!!
>
> And on the subject of noise...
> Is it possible to have too much movement on the clutch of a '76 Midget
> (1500)??
> If I push the pedal all the way to the floor there sometime is a
> screeching noise... If I stop about 3/4 of the way down there's no
> problem... !!
>
> --
> Dave G.  KK7SS
> DN06ig
> '65 Sprite - work in progress
> '76 Midget - nearly ready
>
>
> On 31 Jul 2010 at 7:30, Edmund Conen wrote:
>
> > A proper .222 Rem. would be just as effective from a much greater
> distance.  (Same weight
> > bullet; almost triple the velocity. ;-))
> >
> > >>per Robert Duquette...
> > >>I've heard that 222s will do the trick.  ( two .22s )
> > >>...
> > >>>>per DaveG...
> > >>>> A .357 is *very* effective
> _______________________________________________
>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jul 31 10:00:04 2010
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:00:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ebay, no spridget content
In-Reply-To: <969647.28439.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <969647.28439.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY147-w17D53D5FB9F8F4B2604624B8AB0@phx.gbl>

BTW, I guess it's a Canadian thing, a 222 is (was?) a pain killer pill much
like aspirin.



Not 100% correct, but gleaned from the net:

The tablet is a Canadian "222" made by Johnson & Johnson - Merck Consumer. The
pill contains 375 mg aspirin, 30 mg (or 15 mg) caffeine and 8 mg codeine
phosphate. It's an over-the-counter medication in Canada.

Robert Duquette
Ottawa ON Canada
1965 RHD BRG Austin-Healey Sprite ( project )
1967 RHD MG Midget ( aka: Miss Marple )
1955 Austin-Healey 100 BN1 ( aka: Carmen )

http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/2009FallTour.jpg






> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 07:30:04 -0700
> From: conen at bellsouth.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ebay, no spridget content
>
> A proper .222 Rem. would be just as effective from a much greater distance.
(Same weight bullet; almost triple the velocity. ;-))
>
> >>per Robert Duquette...
> >>I've heard that 222s will do the trick. ( two .22s )
> >>...
> >>>>per DaveG...
> >>>> A .357 is *very* effective
>
> Ed in NC :-) :-) :-)
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 10:14:16 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 11:14:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimWWfhS7Y1jZh9W7teTC_Y5SXOhfp990gaJxbHt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinXXURfengjaCvAkTDAHrdX=MEbqin8KkQ7Wti5@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTino2Ci+FQfKOgWaa9V_mE1gyEyf00znHJFvUhK2@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimWWfhS7Y1jZh9W7teTC_Y5SXOhfp990gaJxbHt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim8QjjJ_yXES11gg=iTOV9VVLwSofbD0CgYpZd7@mail.gmail.com>

Oops, my server was slow loading the engine and interior shots. I do have to
say that the plug wires wrapped in electrical tape show some nice hand done
"craftsmanship". the mismatched front turn signal lenses are a nice touch as
well.

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>wrote:

> and maybe get the correct tonneau, and show some photos of the engine
> compartment, and interior, and, and, and....
> I would avoid this one, as it seems that something is being covered up on
> this one.
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> List I just got a reply from the owner regarding the chassis shots and his
>> answer was "No".
>> I don't get it, maybe he was insulted when I said "at 18K why wouldn't you
>> buy a $35. hood emblem?"
>> Lin
>>
>> My factory deep pink Sprite still has her emblem ; )
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Speaking of "Pink" did you guys & gals see the "Pink" Sprite MKII on
>> ebay?
>> > This is the same one selling for 8K 2 years ago. I doubt he will get the
>> 18K
>> > he wants but this is the very first time I saw the rubber mat on the
>> floor
>> > which is in mint condition also a good view of the very rare speckle
>> carpet
>> > in the rear. If I saw that mat in it the first time I might have coughed
>> up
>> > the 8K then. I asked him for chassis photos, and I don't know what the
>> > offers so far are.
>> > Lin
>> >
>> > Ebay #270611971693
>> >
>> > Link:
>> >
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-Austin-Healey-Sprite-Mark-/270611971693?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3f01bafe6d
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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>
>
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>
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>



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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Jul 31 10:23:40 2010
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:23:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 222 and some spridget content
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik8sNwGRLM=pDr4P0_0NNsjM5p-Oa2QguEp4h3O@mail.gmail.com>
References: <969647.28439.qm@web180216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>,
	<4C54403C.31593.554451@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<AANLkTik8sNwGRLM=pDr4P0_0NNsjM5p-Oa2QguEp4h3O@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C544E0C.21964.8B3A15@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Thanks Brad...
Surprise, surprise...  we're having a thubderstrom with rain!!!
Not usual for this part of the country.!
The car is outside so I'll check it out when the weather clears up...

But I sure hope that isn't the problem   ;-((

-- 
Dave G.  KK7SS
DN06ig
'65 Sprite - work in progress
'76 Midget - nearly ready

> Get a pry bar, and push your harmonic balancer all the way back off the
> front crossmember. Now, have an assistant push the clutch pedal all the way
> down, while you observe the balancer. You may have some movement there,
> which "could" indicate that the engine has worn thrust washers, or worst
> case scenario, dropped one. The 1500 is notorious for thrust washer
> problems.

From lotuspilot at verizon.net  Sat Jul 31 13:01:27 2010
From: lotuspilot at verizon.net (Michael Carpenter)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:01:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693
References: <AANLkTinXXURfengjaCvAkTDAHrdX=MEbqin8KkQ7Wti5@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTino2Ci+FQfKOgWaa9V_mE1gyEyf00znHJFvUhK2@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimWWfhS7Y1jZh9W7teTC_Y5SXOhfp990gaJxbHt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CCC99380851D433D89A722E7BA354B6A@D1PWFG61>

You should see the underside - ALL RUBBERIZED UNDERCOATING.  They are 
dreamings trying to capitalize on the unknowing.  I could have bought this 
exact car for $5500 and turned it down at PVGP a few years ago.  It had a 
front end shunt at some point also.  Gerald was there at the same time as I.

Mike C
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693


> and maybe get the correct tonneau, and show some photos of the engine
> compartment, and interior, and, and, and....
> I would avoid this one, as it seems that something is being covered up on
> this one.
>
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Linda Grunthaner 
> <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> List I just got a reply from the owner regarding the chassis shots and 
>> his
>> answer was "No".
>> I don't get it, maybe he was insulted when I said "at 18K why wouldn't 
>> you
>> buy a $35. hood emblem?"
>> Lin
>>
>> My factory deep pink Sprite still has her emblem ; )
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Speaking of "Pink" did you guys & gals see the "Pink" Sprite MKII on
>> ebay?
>> > This is the same one selling for 8K 2 years ago. I doubt he will get 
>> > the
>> 18K
>> > he wants but this is the very first time I saw the rubber mat on the
>> floor
>> > which is in mint condition also a good view of the very rare speckle
>> carpet
>> > in the rear. If I saw that mat in it the first time I might have 
>> > coughed
>> up
>> > the 8K then. I asked him for chassis photos, and I don't know what the
>> > offers so far are.
>> > Lin
>> >
>> > Ebay #270611971693
>> >
>> > Link:

From colin at spriteparts.com.au  Sat Jul 31 16:12:50 2010
From: colin at spriteparts.com.au (Colin Dodds)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:12:50 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets 1961 Bugeye?
References: <a43c9.498c931f.398579d1@aol.com>
Message-ID: <08a601cb30fd$85618110$0200000a@Workstation1>

G'day guys

Nope, I don't think there's all in Oz.  Certainly yhe last one (50116) was
built in the UK.

The youngest car we know of is YHAN1/9/49936 which left the factory as a CKD
kit on 13 Jan 1961.  If it had been built in the UK, it would have received
car number AN5/49936.  That means they only built or sent out 180 cars in
total between 13 Jan and May.  The British Motor Industry Heritage Trust
doesn't record the actual date in May, just that it was in May that the last
Bugeye was built.

The first Mk II Sprite HAN6/101 also left the factory in May 1961.

Go to my web site, to Links, and download the Sprite Register.  It's all
there.

avagoodday
Colin
www.SpriteParts.com.au

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: CAWS52803 at aol.com
  To: shop at justbrits.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net ; colin at spriteparts.com.au
  Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Spridgets 1961 Bugeye?


  Ed responded with:

  There ARE nor there EVER been any 1961 Frogeyes, Rudy.
  YOU should KNOW better !!

  And in turn, I wrote:

  Ed,
  This group has just been too boring and needed a kick in the butt!
  According to Anders Ditlev Clausager in his book "Sprites & Midgets", on
page 219, there were 41 Mark 1 Sprites built. Completely knocked down export,
Right-hand drive.
  Of course Colin thinks he has them all down there in Oz.

  Rudy with a RHD knocked up Bugeye

From colin at spriteparts.com.au  Sat Jul 31 16:16:37 2010
From: colin at spriteparts.com.au (Colin Dodds)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:16:37 +1000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Bugeye?
Message-ID: <08b101cb30fe$0c1b1900$0200000a@Workstation1>

It was built in October or November 1960, Rudy.

avagoodday
Colin
www.Spriteparts.com.au

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jul 31 16:43:52 2010
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:43:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693
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On 7/31/2010 11:55 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:
> and maybe get the correct tonneau, and show some photos of the engine
> compartment, and interior, and, and, and....
> I would avoid this one, as it seems that something is being covered up on
> this one.

>>> Ebay #270611971693


It's a freshly painted mess.
I especially like the electric tape on the spark plug wires. Top class 
there for sure but what do you want for $18000.00.
Oh yeah and MGB headlight rims, no bonnet badge, and a pitted spare 
wheel meaning it had it's speedo set back.
Hell, I don't own ONE Sprite with more than 5000 miles on the speedo. ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
Lots of Sprites

From davriker at nwi.net  Sat Jul 31 16:44:04 2010
From: davriker at nwi.net (davriker at nwi.net)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:44:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsches and  eBay, no Spridget content
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Porsh is a nick name, just like Chevy is to Chevrolet. Saying "Porsh"
instead of "Porshe" is as engrained in automotive lingo as Chevy is.
So is "Jag" instead of "Jaguar", "Bimmer" instead of BMW. Using the
Slang term "Porsh" is culturally correct when refering to the Car, not
the family.
Dave Riker




> Mark,
> When someone pays me a compliment and calls me "Mr. Sohve" instead of
> So-ah-vay as it is intended, I politely thank them for the compliment
> before
> making a correction, if at all. Doing it the way Chris did gives "car
> guys" a
> bad name.
>
> --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Mark Wemple <markwemple at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
> From: Mark Wemple <markwemple at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsches
> and  eBay, no Spridget content
>> To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
>> Date:
> Saturday, July 31, 2010, 8:15 AM
>> Just out of curiosity, do you like it
>> or
> dislike it whan someone mis-pronounces
>> your name, especially when they know
> how to do it
>> correctly. Porsche is a family
>> name, a family name that IS
> pronounced Porsch-a. Like it or
>> dislike it. If you
>> can't say it
> correctly, you're not a car guy. Dumbass,
>> maybe, car guy, no.
>>  Mark D.
> Wemple, Esq.
>> 359 Dun Robbin Drive
>> Severna Park, Maryland 21146
>>
>>
>>
> Tel. (410) 987-5831/ Fax. (410) 987-1410
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message
> ----
>> From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
>> To: Spridgets
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>;
>> Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
>> Sent: Fri, July
> 30, 2010 11:06:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsches and eBay, no Spridget
>> content
>>
>> --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
> Did he pronounce it "Porsh-sha" ??
>> > He must have got his knickers in a
> twist,,, !!
>>
>> In the early 2000s I worked for a guy who had a 1980s Ford
>>
> Escort he drove
>> daily. Upon getting a large bonus, he bought a 911. When he
>> came in with it, one
>> of the guys (a very regal Armenian) said, "Ah,
> Chris...I
>> see you brought the
>> Porsche today. It looks beautiful." Chris
> replied
>> "Por-SHA!! Por-SHA!! It's
>> pronounced Por-SHA!!"
>>
>>
>> So the
> next day he drives the Escort.
>>
>> Of course, as he walks in the Armenian
> says "Ah, Chris...I
>> see you brought the
>> Escort-tah today...".
>>
>>
>>
> Beautiful.
>>
>> Ron
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 17:00:10 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:00:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsches and eBay, no Spridget content
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but if I can afford a "Poor-Shay", this means I am affluent, and MY
affluence DESERVES proper respect, EVEN when discussing my overpriced VW
car.
Remember this, ya damned commoner!!! <BG>

Brad

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 5:44 PM, <davriker at nwi.net> wrote:

> Porsh is a nick name, just like Chevy is to Chevrolet. Saying "Porsh"
> instead of "Porshe" is as engrained in automotive lingo as Chevy is.
> So is "Jag" instead of "Jaguar", "Bimmer" instead of BMW. Using the
> Slang term "Porsh" is culturally correct when refering to the Car, not
> the family.
> Dave Riker
>
>
>
>
> > Mark,
> > When someone pays me a compliment and calls me "Mr. Sohve" instead of
> > So-ah-vay as it is intended, I politely thank them for the compliment
> > before
> > making a correction, if at all. Doing it the way Chris did gives "car
> > guys" a
> > bad name.
> >
> > --- On Sat, 7/31/10, Mark Wemple <markwemple at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> > From: Mark Wemple <markwemple at yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsches
> > and  eBay, no Spridget content
> >> To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
> >> Date:
> > Saturday, July 31, 2010, 8:15 AM
> >> Just out of curiosity, do you like it
> >> or
> > dislike it whan someone mis-pronounces
> >> your name, especially when they know
> > how to do it
> >> correctly. Porsche is a family
> >> name, a family name that IS
> > pronounced Porsch-a. Like it or
> >> dislike it. If you
> >> can't say it
> > correctly, you're not a car guy. Dumbass,
> >> maybe, car guy, no.
> >>  Mark D.
> > Wemple, Esq.
> >> 359 Dun Robbin Drive
> >> Severna Park, Maryland 21146
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Tel. (410) 987-5831/ Fax. (410) 987-1410
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message
> > ----
> >> From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
> >> To: Spridgets
> > <spridgets at autox.team.net>;
> >> Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
> >> Sent: Fri, July
> > 30, 2010 11:06:50 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsches and eBay, no Spridget
> >> content
> >>
> >> --- On Fri, 7/30/10, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> > Did he pronounce it "Porsh-sha" ??
> >> > He must have got his knickers in a
> > twist,,, !!
> >>
> >> In the early 2000s I worked for a guy who had a 1980s Ford
> >>
> > Escort he drove
> >> daily. Upon getting a large bonus, he bought a 911. When he
> >> came in with it, one
> >> of the guys (a very regal Armenian) said, "Ah,
> > Chris...I
> >> see you brought the
> >> Porsche today. It looks beautiful." Chris
> > replied
> >> "Por-SHA!! Por-SHA!! It's
> >> pronounced Por-SHA!!"
> >>
> >>
> >> So the
> > next day he drives the Escort.
> >>
> >> Of course, as he walks in the Armenian
> > says "Ah, Chris...I
> >> see you brought the
> >> Escort-tah today...".
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Beautiful.
> >>
> >> Ron
> >> _______________________________________________
> >>
> >>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul 31 17:07:17 2010
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:07:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsches and eBay, no Spridget content
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They're banging at gate Gov'

=======================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:00 PM
To: davriker at nwi.net
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsches and eBay, no Spridget content

but if I can afford a "Poor-Shay", this means I am affluent, and MY
affluence DESERVES proper respect, EVEN when discussing my overpriced VW
car.
Remember this, ya damned commoner!!! <BG>

Brad

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Jul 31 17:26:32 2010
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:26:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsches and  eBay, no Spridget content
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> "Bimmer" instead of BMW.
That's not what we call them.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 17:34:47 2010
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 18:34:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsches and eBay, no Spridget content
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Everyone's allowed a sex life....

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:07 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> They're banging at gate Gov'
>
> =======================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 4:00 PM
> To: davriker at nwi.net
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Porsches and eBay, no Spridget content
>
> but if I can afford a "Poor-Shay", this means I am affluent, and MY
> affluence DESERVES proper respect, EVEN when discussing my overpriced VW
> car.
> Remember this, ya damned commoner!!! <BG>
>
> Brad
> _______________________________________________
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From bjshov8 at tx.rr.com  Sat Jul 31 19:17:01 2010
From: bjshov8 at tx.rr.com (BJNoSHOV8)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:17:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsches and eBay, no Spridget content
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I'm not sure I understand the Porsche bashing.  I'm not really a Porsche 
fan, their cars don't really interest me, but I do respect what they do 
with them.  Back in the 944 days, I thought the 944 was more 
interesting, maybe I'm just a front-engine guy.

Now back in the 80's, every pretender or wannabe had to have a Porsche 
(POOR-shuh).  These were the guys that didn't know anything about cars, 
wore leisure suits and gold chains, and the car was just a show of 
status.  In those days there were lots of Porsches around in our 
metroplex.  I doubt if 1/10 of the owners knew anything about the car.  
Well 25 years later I realized that I don't see very many of them around 
anymore.  It seems that the pretenders and wannabe's moved on to 
something else, so now if you find someone driving a Porsche they are 
probably an enthusiast and bought the car because of what it is, not 
what image it projects.

In my area. BMW has become the car for pretenders and wannabe's, and we 
have a lot of them.


> but if I can afford a "Poor-Shay", this means I am affluent, and MY
> affluence DESERVES proper respect,

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Jul 31 20:52:15 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:52:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Porsches and  eBay, no Spridget content
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Dave, well said !!

<< Porsh is a nick name, just like Chevy is to Chevrolet. >>

'Course it's really 'porch' and Chebby <G> !!


To make YOUR point tho, I was just surfing the PEDC
site and damned near choked to death from LMAO
at THIS 'listing':

<quote>
....Miller at *porsh911t    AT    *******    DOT   net 
<mailto:porsh911t at comcast.net>*, phone:......
</quote>

Ed

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Jul 31 21:33:06 2010
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 23:33:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693
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That's the first original black tunnel rubber I have ever seen.
Thanks for posting the link.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:44 AM
To: Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693

Speaking of "Pink" did you guys & gals see the "Pink" Sprite MKII on ebay?
This is the same one selling for 8K 2 years ago. I doubt he will get the 18K
he wants but this is the very first time I saw the rubber mat on the floor
which is in mint condition also a good view of the very rare speckle carpet
in the rear. If I saw that mat in it the first time I might have coughed up
the 8K then. I asked him for chassis photos, and I don't know what the
offers so far are.
Lin

Ebay #270611971693

Link:
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 22:29:19 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:29:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets 1961 Bugeye?
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On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:51 AM, <CAWS52803 at aol.com> wrote:

> I have the BMIHT certificate and here is what it has:
>
> Car/Chassis Number    AN5/47736
> Specification RHD,      Home Market
> Date(s) Built               3-5 October 1961
> Date Despatched        9 March 1961
> Destination                 Car Mart, London
>
> So, not only do I have a very rare Bugeye, but one that was delivered prior
> to its manufacture!
>

Rudy,
Your certificate does not say that the vehicle was delivered prior to
manufacture: it was dispatched prior to manufacture.  It may have slipped
through a rupture in the space-time continuum and not been delivered until
after it was manufactured.  Or they could have dispatched it via the USPS.

Hal

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat Jul 31 22:35:18 2010
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:35:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pink Sprite MK II on ebay #270611971693
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Of course he wants 18000 for it: who else has a square bodied Sprite MK1?

Hal