From grday at btinternet.com  Tue Sep  1 02:19:33 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:19:33 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] So...
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Have a look at:

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/peugeot/206-coupe-cabriolet-2001.aspx

Not a car I would go for but, they are involved in a lot of 'little boy 
racer' type accidents.

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Yahoo Spridget list" 
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:34 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] So...


> I'm here in Mexico, and just saw my first Peugot 206 coupe. Anyone else 
> ever
> seen one? Are they available in a convertible version, and are they worth 
> a
> damn?
>
> -- 
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  1 06:00:41 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 05:00:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0908312215m5c3b7f41qe3300672b429f4d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <963846.21326.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Don't know anything about your "guys"

They know better than to walk across a half mile of active runway at a military base that is on high alert.

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  1 06:03:56 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 05:03:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <005b01ca2ac9$5019ed70$f04dc850$@net>
Message-ID: <458047.23760.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> You don't
understand.  He was in the AIR FORCE!

No - civilian! USAF left him at the
side of the runway. He is USMC retired, so he had some colorful opinions on
the matter, still does. 

Ron

From wmseverin at charter.net  Tue Sep  1 07:17:26 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 08:17:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <402188520908311907n2e5a2a89y35e14fd6ea7c7e4e@mail.gmail.com>
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Plans for SOS, the Erection are underway. It will take place the weekend of
Oct. 10 & 11.

Lots to do at the new Thicko shop, located in Princeton, WI.  We'll get the
MaxJax lift installed on both sides of the shop... one side (the regular
workshop) spaced specifically for Sprite work. The other side will be spaced
for larger vehicles. There's lots of other things to get done in terms of
organization, purging, etc. If there's a plumber in the house, speak up.

The new Thicko shop can accommodate 4 or 5 overnight guests (in real beds),
and the lake house (Green Lake, where I live now), is 10 miles away, and can
accommodate another 5.

There's a grocery store right next to the shop, so we can sacrifice the
appropriate animals. We have broadband there, so once again SOS will be
broadcast via Yahoo Messenger.

More details later. Please advise if you'd like to attend.

WST


> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:07 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An SOS Erection (Lift)
> 
> OK folks,
> I suck at trying to get something like this together.
> 
> What we are looking at right now is the weekend of October 10th in
> Princeton, Wisconsin. No telling what else will come up, but the
> primary goal is to install a MaxJax lift. A rotary hammer drill with a
> 5/8" concrete bit and a 7/8" concrete bit for the drop-in anchors will
> be needed. No, I do not have one ;-) Anyone planning to come who has
> access to such a device?
> David L

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  1 07:34:25 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 06:34:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <003201ca2b06$8cff9a40$a6fecec0$@net>
Message-ID: <795596.2966.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wll be at VSCDA Autobahn race, equipment willing.

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Wm. Severin Thompson <wmseverin at charter.net> wrote:

> From: Wm. Severin Thompson <wmseverin at charter.net>
> Subject: [Thicko] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
> To: "'David Lieb'" <72spridget at gmail.com>, "'Spridgets'"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Cc: Vintage-Race at Autox.Team.Net, team-thicko at autox.team.net, "'Healey List'"
<Healeys at autox.team.net>
> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 8:17 AM
> Plans for SOS, the Erection are
> underway. It will take place the weekend of
> Oct. 10 & 11.
>
> Lots to do at the new Thicko shop, located in Princeton,
> WI.  We'll get the
> MaxJax lift installed on both sides of the shop... one side
> (the regular
> workshop) spaced specifically for Sprite work. The other
> side will be spaced
> for larger vehicles. There's lots of other things to get
> done in terms of
> organization, purging, etc. If there's a plumber in the
> house, speak up.
>
> The new Thicko shop can accommodate 4 or 5 overnight guests
> (in real beds),
> and the lake house (Green Lake, where I live now), is 10
> miles away, and can
> accommodate another 5.
>
> There's a grocery store right next to the shop, so we can
> sacrifice the
> appropriate animals. We have broadband there, so once again
> SOS will be
> broadcast via Yahoo Messenger.
>
> More details later. Please advise if you'd like to attend.
>
> WST
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-
> > bounces at autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of David Lieb
> > Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:07 PM
> > To: Spridgets
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] An SOS Erection (Lift)
> >
> > OK folks,
> > I suck at trying to get something like this together.
> >
> > What we are looking at right now is the weekend of
> October 10th in
> > Princeton, Wisconsin. No telling what else will come
> up, but the
> > primary goal is to install a MaxJax lift. A rotary
> hammer drill with a
> > 5/8" concrete bit and a 7/8" concrete bit for the
> drop-in anchors will
> > be needed. No, I do not have one ;-) Anyone planning
> to come who has
> > access to such a device?
> > David L
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Sep  1 08:00:33 2009
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:00:33 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <003201ca2b06$8cff9a40$a6fecec0$@net>
References: <10701925.199497.1251493278446.JavaMail.txtblapp@ip-10-250-131-129.ec2.internal>
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	<003201ca2b06$8cff9a40$a6fecec0$@net>
Message-ID: <60504.173.7.216.0.1251813633.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

I'll be there and am looking at my local rental tool establishment for the
appropriate erection devices. ;-)

Dave W.



> Plans for SOS, the Erection are underway. It will take place the weekend
> of
> Oct. 10 & 11.
>
> Lots to do at the new Thicko shop, located in Princeton, WI.  We'll get
> the
> MaxJax lift installed on both sides of the shop... one side (the regular
> workshop) spaced specifically for Sprite work. The other side will be
> spaced
> for larger vehicles. There's lots of other things to get done in terms of
> organization, purging, etc. If there's a plumber in the house, speak up.
>
> The new Thicko shop can accommodate 4 or 5 overnight guests (in real
> beds),
> and the lake house (Green Lake, where I live now), is 10 miles away, and
> can
> accommodate another 5.
>
> There's a grocery store right next to the shop, so we can sacrifice the
> appropriate animals. We have broadband there, so once again SOS will be
> broadcast via Yahoo Messenger.
>
> More details later. Please advise if you'd like to attend.
>
> WST

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Sep  1 08:03:49 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:03:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <003201ca2b06$8cff9a40$a6fecec0$@net>
References: <10701925.199497.1251493278446.JavaMail.txtblapp@ip-10-250-131-129.ec2.internal>
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	<00ec01ca2aa7$bf741000$3e5c3000$@net>
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	<003201ca2b06$8cff9a40$a6fecec0$@net>
Message-ID: <200909010703553.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

What are "we" plumbing?

I only do supply-side plumbing, though;-)

PPP
======
At 08:17 AM 9/1/2009, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
>Plans for SOS, the Erection are underway. It will take place the weekend of
>Oct. 10 & 11.

From wmseverin at charter.net  Tue Sep  1 08:32:34 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:32:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <200909010703553.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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Well, there are 2 washrooms in the shop, a man's and a woman's, as it was a
commercial site at one time. Don't need 2 toilets, but sure could use a
shower there... so I bought one. We'd have to knock down a wall, and frame
in the shower unit, and tie it into the former toilet drain. Copper's close
to being done on the supply side.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:04 AM
> To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'David Lieb'; 'Spridgets'
> Cc: Vintage-Race at Autox.Team.Net; team-thicko at autox.team.net; 'Healey
> List'
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
> 
> What are "we" plumbing?
> 
> I only do supply-side plumbing, though;-)
> 
> PPP
> ======
> At 08:17 AM 9/1/2009, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
> >Plans for SOS, the Erection are underway. It will take place the
> weekend of
> >Oct. 10 & 11.

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 09:04:55 2009
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:04:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Help needed on conical washers
Message-ID: <d6f30eca0909010804g5a671524y84c020d58a10590e@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everyone,

I'm having a bit of a brain freeze here.  I need to mount a trailer hitch,
and they are using conical washers with the bolts.  I should know the answer
to this, but which way does the washer need to go?  From what I remember,
the concave side should face the surface, so the washer will flatten out
slightly when the bolt is tightened down.  Is that correct?  I'm a computer
engineer, not a mechanical engineer. :)

Greg Gowins
Driftwood, TX

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep  1 09:57:18 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:57:18 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <000901ca2b11$0c4f9160$24eeb420$@net>
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	<000901ca2b11$0c4f9160$24eeb420$@net>
Message-ID: <4A9D445E.9070301@comcast.net>

Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
>
>>
>> What are "we" plumbing?
>>
>> I only do supply-side plumbing, though;-)
>>
>>     

Plumbing is easy, hot on the left, cold on the right, shit don't go up 
hill, coffee break is 10:00 sharp, payday on Friday.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 09:59:55 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:59:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <4A9D445E.9070301@comcast.net>
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> Plumbing is easy, hot on the left, cold on the right, shit don't go up hill,
> coffee break is 10:00 sharp, payday on Friday.

You forgot to account for the smell ;-)

From wmseverin at charter.net  Tue Sep  1 10:00:37 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:00:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <4A9D445E.9070301@comcast.net>
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We'll expect you for coffee.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank [mailto:spritenut at comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:57 AM
> To: Wm. Severin Thompson
> Cc: 'Peter Caldwell'; 'David Lieb'; 'Spridgets'; 'Healey List'; team-
> thicko at autox.team.net; Vintage-Race at Autox.Team.Net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend
> Oct. 10
> 
> Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> What are "we" plumbing?
> >>
> >> I only do supply-side plumbing, though;-)
> >>
> >>
> 
> Plumbing is easy, hot on the left, cold on the right, shit don't go up
> hill, coffee break is 10:00 sharp, payday on Friday.

From nases at verizon.net  Tue Sep  1 10:08:59 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:08:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <4A9D445E.9070301@comcast.net>
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	<402188520908311907n2e5a2a89y35e14fd6ea7c7e4e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <369B3E39-D395-4203-A655-618E028961D5@verizon.net>

Frank Clarici wrote:

> Plumbing is easy, hot on the left, cold on the right, shit don't go  
> up hill, coffee break is 10:00 sharp, payday on Friday.



And rule #1.  Don't put your hands in your mouth.


Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep  1 10:30:16 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:30:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <000901ca2b11$0c4f9160$24eeb420$@net>
Message-ID: <C6C29A28.20764%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

You'll probably have to make the shower base a step-up to get it above the
drain. Aside from that it's a snap.
I have a hammer drill, if you can get Soave to pick it up.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 10:34:02 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:34:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <C6C29A28.20764%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <000901ca2b11$0c4f9160$24eeb420$@net>
	<C6C29A28.20764%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
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> I have a hammer drill, if you can get Soave to pick it up.

Sorry, Billy, but Soavero has already told us that he can't be fussed
to show up, so you will have to bring it by yourself and show us how
to use it ;-)
David L

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Sep  1 10:36:42 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:36:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <458047.23760.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <005b01ca2ac9$5019ed70$f04dc850$@net>
	<458047.23760.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <001901ca2b22$63c0c2a0$2b4247e0$@net>

Ron Soave wrote:  "He is USMC retired..."

Oh, THAT'S the reason!  You should have said so in the beginning.  THAT
explains it all.  Oh, the Jarheads make good messenger boys for the skipper,
and once in a while pretty good book ends.  And, I do remember they made
fair allies in Navy/Marine bar fights with ground pounders on Army posts
(and once with some of HM sailors).  After that, you have reach about the
end of domesticated usefulness.  But, they are kinda cute to keep around.




-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:04 AM
To: 'Jim Johnson'; Robert Evans
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> You don't understand.  He was in the AIR FORCE!

No - civilian! USAF left him at the side of the runway. He is USMC retired,
so he had some colorful opinions on the matter, still does.

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  1 10:39:59 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:39:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <C6C29A28.20764%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <45053.62101.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> drain. Aside from that it's a snap.
> I have a hammer drill, if you can get Soave to pick it up.

Come out for RA - live the little known Wisconsin motto:

"You'll come for the races; you'll stay for the plumbing."

Ron

From wmseverin at charter.net  Tue Sep  1 10:47:21 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:47:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <C6C29A28.20764%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <000901ca2b11$0c4f9160$24eeb420$@net>
	<C6C29A28.20764%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <000901ca2b23$e0a37960$a1ea6c20$@net>

Plenty of height to work with.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 11:30 AM
> To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Peter Caldwell'; 'David Lieb'; 'Spridgets'
> Cc: Vintage-Race at Autox.Team.Net; team-thicko at autox.team.net; 'Healey
> List'
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend
> Oct. 10
> 
> You'll probably have to make the shower base a step-up to get it above
> the
> drain. Aside from that it's a snap.
> I have a hammer drill, if you can get Soave to pick it up.
> _______________________________________________

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 10:48:48 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:48:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <001901ca2b22$63c0c2a0$2b4247e0$@net>
References: <005b01ca2ac9$5019ed70$f04dc850$@net>
	<458047.23760.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<001901ca2b22$63c0c2a0$2b4247e0$@net>
Message-ID: <402188520909010948s2758abfewf6446382ec606e20@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm, praps I should forward that to my son in the USMC (not retired)
who should be showing up at Pendleton from I raq this week ;-)

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Robert Evans<b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Ron Soave wrote:  "He is USMC retired..."
>
> Oh, THAT'S the reason!  You should have said so in the beginning.  THAT
> explains it all.  Oh, the Jarheads make good messenger boys for the
skipper,
> and once in a while pretty good book ends.  And, I do remember they made
> fair allies in Navy/Marine bar fights with ground pounders on Army posts
> (and once with some of HM sailors).  After that, you have reach about the
> end of domesticated usefulness.  But, they are kinda cute to keep around.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 10:49:57 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:49:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <000901ca2b23$e0a37960$a1ea6c20$@net>
References: <000901ca2b11$0c4f9160$24eeb420$@net>
	<C6C29A28.20764%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<000901ca2b23$e0a37960$a1ea6c20$@net>
Message-ID: <402188520909010949l93862d6v9bf1b9074b47fa3@mail.gmail.com>

> Plenty of height to work with.

Yeah, anyone who doesn't fit would never fit in a Spridget anyway...

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep  1 10:57:18 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:57:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <402188520909010948s2758abfewf6446382ec606e20@mail.gmail.com>
References: <005b01ca2ac9$5019ed70$f04dc850$@net><458047.23760.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com><001901ca2b22$63c0c2a0$2b4247e0$@net>
	<402188520909010948s2758abfewf6446382ec606e20@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BEE160CC9C9041EB871D64530B3EEC8F@spider>

A big thanks to all you are serving in the military, in harms way. ...bill
in oregon
==============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:49 AM
To: Robert Evans; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC

Hmm, praps I should forward that to my son in the USMC (not retired)
who should be showing up at Pendleton from I raq this week ;-)

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Robert Evans<b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Ron Soave wrote:  "He is USMC retired..."
>
> Oh, THAT'S the reason!  You should have said so in the beginning.  THAT
> explains it all.  Oh, the Jarheads make good messenger boys for the
skipper,
> and once in a while pretty good book ends.  And, I do remember they made
> fair allies in Navy/Marine bar fights with ground pounders on Army posts
> (and once with some of HM sailors).  After that, you have reach about the
> end of domesticated usefulness.  But, they are kinda cute to keep around.
_______________________________________________

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 11:09:44 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:09:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <963846.21326.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <43840a7e0908312215m5c3b7f41qe3300672b429f4d1@mail.gmail.com>
	<963846.21326.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909011009p222daaf3h32af387c0d207e7f@mail.gmail.com>

Only one runway is active at a time based on wind direction. If you have to
cross one make it the inactive one. Failing that, he could walk *around* all
the runways on the run offs.

Cheesh!!

So the problem was being 2 miles away from Base Ops on an airfield on alert
and an ex Marine not bright enough to figure out how to get back to Base Ops
on his own.

Who ties his shoes?

Cheers!!
Jim - Ex Air Force.  1965-1977

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Don't know anything about your "guys"
>
> They know better than to walk across a half mile of active runway at a
> military base that is on high alert.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 11:13:21 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:13:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <60504.173.7.216.0.1251813633.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <10701925.199497.1251493278446.JavaMail.txtblapp@ip-10-250-131-129.ec2.internal>
	<402188520908311855r127a89fs1b57b2378ab4e71e@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ec01ca2aa7$bf741000$3e5c3000$@net>
	<402188520908311907n2e5a2a89y35e14fd6ea7c7e4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<003201ca2b06$8cff9a40$a6fecec0$@net>
	<60504.173.7.216.0.1251813633.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909011013u49f70dc2l192d663e5ce10236@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:00 AM, <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> I'll be there and am looking at my local rental tool establishment for the
> appropriate erection devices. ;-)
>

Here you go, Dave....

http://www.postvac.com/
--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Sep  1 11:33:03 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:33:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <402188520909010948s2758abfewf6446382ec606e20@mail.gmail.com>
References: <005b01ca2ac9$5019ed70$f04dc850$@net>	
	<458047.23760.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	
	<001901ca2b22$63c0c2a0$2b4247e0$@net>
	<402188520909010948s2758abfewf6446382ec606e20@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004501ca2b2a$42959300$c7c0b900$@net>

Do it, David!  HE will understand.  Ooops.  No, he may not.  Both the Navy
and Marine Corps today frown horribly on any of the troops going into bars,
let alone participating in such historic activities.  I keep forgetting, the
military has changed to become a kinder and gentler equal opportunity
employer.  Again proving that new is not necessarily better.  Which is
probably why we all love the Spridgets so!



-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb [mailto:72spridget at gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:49 AM
To: Robert Evans; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC

Hmm, praps I should forward that to my son in the USMC (not retired)
who should be showing up at Pendleton from I raq this week ;-)

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Robert Evans<b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Ron Soave wrote:  "He is USMC retired..."
>
> Oh, THAT'S the reason!  You should have said so in the beginning.  THAT
> explains it all.  Oh, the Jarheads make good messenger boys for the
skipper,
> and once in a while pretty good book ends.  And, I do remember they made
> fair allies in Navy/Marine bar fights with ground pounders on Army posts
> (and once with some of HM sailors).  After that, you have reach about the
> end of domesticated usefulness.  But, they are kinda cute to keep around.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  1 11:35:29 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:35:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909011009p222daaf3h32af387c0d207e7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <898566.6149.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The whole story was rather humorous. We were not allowed to use AC power or an
inverter. We were taking data on a laptop, back then battery life was 90
minutes at best. We told the crew to turn the power on just prior to take off,
and it woud boot right into data acquisition. There would be a big "RECORD"
button they would see and click on. We provided instructions with pictures and
a preflight demonstration. They still wanted "the contractor" to do it (the
word "contractor" implies we were being PAID - Ha!). So they took Chuck along
for taxi. After he turned on the laptop and hit "record", they dropped him off
on the side of the runway. If you've been to Robins...this was where they had
FRED (The C-5), and it's a huge isolated place. The plane takes off, Chuck
figures a support vehicle was there somewhere or would be there any minute. 2
hours later, somebody realized "Hey, there's a man out there!".

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
> To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 12:09 PM
> Only one runway is active at a time based on
> wind direction. If you have to cross one make it the
> inactive one. Failing that, he could walk *around* all the
> runways on the run offs.
>
> Cheesh!!
>
>  So the problem was being 2 miles away from Base Ops on an
> airfield on alert and an ex Marine not bright enough to
> figure out how to get back to Base Ops on his own.B 
>
>
> Who ties his shoes?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim - Ex Air Force.B  1965-1977
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:00 AM,
> Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> --- On Tue, 9/1/09,
> Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> > Don't know anything about your "guys"
>
>
>
> They know better than to walk across a half mile of
> active runway at a military base that is on high alert.
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> b
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human
> stupidity, and I am not
> sure about the former.b
 - Albert Einstein

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep  1 12:31:46 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:31:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] An SOS Erection (Lift)
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0908312227g5435728al5dfe8a5c16f37664@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10701925.199497.1251493278446.JavaMail.txtblapp@ip-10-250-131-129.ec2.internal>
	<402188520908311855r127a89fs1b57b2378ab4e71e@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ec01ca2aa7$bf741000$3e5c3000$@net>
	<402188520908311907n2e5a2a89y35e14fd6ea7c7e4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0908312227g5435728al5dfe8a5c16f37664@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A9D6892.9020103@frontiernet.net>

I have a hammer drill you are welcome to use for round trip postage.

Kate
>>  A rotary hammer drill with a
>> 5/8" concrete bit and a 7/8" concrete bit for the drop-in anchors will
>> be needed. No, I do not have one ;-) Anyone planning to come who has
>> access to such a device?
>> David L
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From bogodwin at bellsouth.net  Tue Sep  1 14:11:02 2009
From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (bogodwin)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:11:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Urban myth of the Bristol Zoo parking attendant
In-Reply-To: <150DBAA2574D43AC91B7FB060937A9F0@spider>
References: <9F46653E07DF4A61850CC4D708DAB741@6034><COL116-W51D925897D7819FE2F1464B8F20@phx.gbl>
	<BAY112-W34FC122AA34B517DEA0080B8F20@phx.gbl>
	<F9F2486D9A494156BD94B23B192CF615@spider>
	<BAY112-W353DFDB5D7953433F7A79DB8F20@phx.gbl>
	<150DBAA2574D43AC91B7FB060937A9F0@spider>
Message-ID: <001301ca2b40$54ae70a0$fe0b51e0$@net>

I just thought it was a joke.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 1:36 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Urban myth of the Bristol Zoo parking attendant

The clue was it had nothing to do with cats or guns or heads with 27
openings. .bill in oregon

  _____  

From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca [mailto:robertduquette at sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:31 AM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: RE: Urban myth of the Bristol Zoo parking attendant

 

Yeah, I know.  :)
 
I didn't initially bother to look it up, as I just figured as much, so I
just marked it as "Humour".  But then, I figured on this list, I had best
look it up.
 
Thanks though!
 
> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
> 
> Urban myth of the Bristol Zoo parking attendant Monday, June 15, 2009
> It's a Myth.
> google " Bristol Evening Post" parking zoo
> 
> ==================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> robertduquette at sympatico.ca
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:23 AM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Humour? - how to make real money
> 
> > From the Bristol Evening Post:
> >
> > "Urban myth of the Bristol Zoo parking attendant
> Monday, June 15, 2009, 07:00is the car park, with spaces for 150 cars and
8
> > coaches. It has been manned 6 days a week for 23 years by the same
> charming
> > and very polite car park attendant with the ticket machine. The charges
> are
> > #1 per car and #5 per coach.
> >
> > On Monday 1 June, he did not turn up for work. Bristol Zoo management
> > phoned Bristol City Council to ask them to send a replacement parking
> > attendant.
> >
> > The Council said, 'That car park is your responsibility.' The Zoo said,
> > 'The attendant was employed by the City Council... wasn't he?' The
Council
> > said, 'What attendant?'
> >
> > Gone missing from his home is a man who has been taking daily the car
park
> > fees amounting to about #400 per day for the last 23 years...!
> >
> > Total sum just short #2.9 million."
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Sep  1 17:38:53 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:38:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help needed on conical washers
In-Reply-To: <d6f30eca0909010804g5a671524y84c020d58a10590e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d6f30eca0909010804g5a671524y84c020d58a10590e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <207213512.20090901163853@pacifier.com>

Hello Greg,

     Conical washers, also known as Belleville washer are installed
     with the height of the dome toward the nut or bolt, and the
     "hollow" toward the work. Proper torque is essential when using
     this style, as too much will flatten and so destroy its
     characteristics.

     I've never seen them used outside of electrical installations,
     where they are employed to keep bus bar connections tight that
     expand and contract due to the the heating and cooling caused by
     various current loads.

     If you look up Belleville washers you can find the proper
     torque/size.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Counting in binary is just like counting in decimal, if you are all thumbs.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep  1 17:56:29 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 16:56:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Help needed on conical washers
In-Reply-To: <207213512.20090901163853@pacifier.com>
References: <d6f30eca0909010804g5a671524y84c020d58a10590e@mail.gmail.com>
	<207213512.20090901163853@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <62FED0AC122C48368ABA711F28218446@spider>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belleville_washer

.bill in oregon

=========================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 4:39 PM
To: Greg Gowins
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Help needed on conical washers

 

Hello Greg,

 

     Conical washers, also known as Belleville washer are installed

     with the height of the dome toward the nut or bolt, and the

     "hollow" toward the work. Proper torque is essential when using

     this style, as too much will flatten and so destroy its

     characteristics.

 

     I've never seen them used outside of electrical installations,

     where they are employed to keep bus bar connections tight that

     expand and contract due to the the heating and cooling caused by

     various current loads.

 

     If you look up Belleville washers you can find the proper

     torque/size.

 

-- 

Best regards,

 Bill L

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep  1 19:21:23 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:21:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <001901ca2b22$63c0c2a0$2b4247e0$@net>
References: <005b01ca2ac9$5019ed70$f04dc850$@net>
	<458047.23760.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<001901ca2b22$63c0c2a0$2b4247e0$@net>
Message-ID: <4A9DC893.7090904@frontiernet.net>

If I am recalling my time at Dam Neck and Camp Smith correctly, they are 
very cute to keep around. Especially during PT.

Kate


Robert Evans wrote:
> Ron Soave wrote:  "He is USMC retired..."
>
> Oh, THAT'S the reason!  You should have said so in the beginning.  THAT
> explains it all.  Oh, the Jarheads make good messenger boys for the skipper,
> and once in a while pretty good book ends.  And, I do remember they made
> fair allies in Navy/Marine bar fights with ground pounders on Army posts
> (and once with some of HM sailors).  After that, you have reach about the
> end of domesticated usefulness.  But, they are kinda cute to keep around.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 5:04 AM
> To: 'Jim Johnson'; Robert Evans
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
>
> --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>   
>> You don't understand.  He was in the AIR FORCE!
>>     
>
> No - civilian! USAF left him at the side of the runway. He is USMC retired,
> so he had some colorful opinions on the matter, still does.
>
> Ron
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Sep  1 19:29:53 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:29:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension question
Message-ID: <4A9DCA91.20189.34D9FA@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I intend to lower the front suspensdion on the '76 RB Midget by 
1/2"...
Would some kind lister suggest what size block of wood I should put 
under the Armstrong lever.?
Also, possibly, what size nut and bolt to lower the pan without the 
spring taking an excursion around the garage.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep  1 19:39:29 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:39:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <004501ca2b2a$42959300$c7c0b900$@net>
References: <005b01ca2ac9$5019ed70$f04dc850$@net>	
	<458047.23760.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	
	<001901ca2b22$63c0c2a0$2b4247e0$@net>
	<402188520909010948s2758abfewf6446382ec606e20@mail.gmail.com>
	<004501ca2b2a$42959300$c7c0b900$@net>
Message-ID: <4A9DCCD1.5050204@frontiernet.net>

Robert Evans wrote:
The military may be an equal opportunity employer, but I passed the same 
hand to hand combat and small arms courses that the men did.

Kate (former ISC AW)

> Do it, David!  HE will understand.  Ooops.  No, he may not.  Both the Navy
> and Marine Corps today frown horribly on any of the troops going into bars,
> let alone participating in such historic activities.  I keep forgetting, the
> military has changed to become a kinder and gentler equal opportunity
> employer.  Again proving that new is not necessarily better.  Which is
> probably why we all love the Spridgets so!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Lieb [mailto:72spridget at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:49 AM
> To: Robert Evans; Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
>
> Hmm, praps I should forward that to my son in the USMC (not retired)
> who should be showing up at Pendleton from I raq this week ;-)
>
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Robert Evans<b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>   
>> Ron Soave wrote:  "He is USMC retired..."
>>
>> Oh, THAT'S the reason!  You should have said so in the beginning.  THAT
>> explains it all.  Oh, the Jarheads make good messenger boys for the
>>     
> skipper,
>   
>> and once in a while pretty good book ends.  And, I do remember they made
>> fair allies in Navy/Marine bar fights with ground pounders on Army posts
>> (and once with some of HM sailors).  After that, you have reach about the
>> end of domesticated usefulness.  But, they are kinda cute to keep around.
>>     
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep  1 19:50:38 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:50:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bracket and top questions
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909011850r3c808efbsd33ff5cc3de4333e@mail.gmail.com>

Two-plus years ago when I trailered my new '73 MG Midget home I
lowered the top and forgot about it!  I haven't had it out in the rain
and it didn't get so cold that I couldn't still enjoy top-down
motoring this past winter.  :-)

Today I was doing a bit of interior cleanup and decided I'd check to
see if the top was still there under the tonneau cover and came up
with a couple of questions.

There's a bracket at the hinge point of the top bows and an eyelet on
the side of the wheelwell hump.
http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/tr3-4-me/73%20MG%20Midget/DSC02522.jpg

Can someone tell me what these are for?

Also, what is the "proper" way to fold and store the top?

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Tue Sep  1 20:36:20 2009
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:36:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bracket and top questions
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909011850r3c808efbsd33ff5cc3de4333e@mail.gmail.co
  m>
Message-ID: <4.1.20090901222916.01837288@mail.bellsouth.net>

That is the bracket that attaches the hardtop to the body. It can also be
used for a tonneau bar that supports the leading edge of the tonneau cover
so that it doesn't belly and hold water. I use it for both purposes on my ' 72.

I unlatch the header from the windshield, pull the top completely away from
the frame, push the frame into the body as I lay the top on the boot. Once
the frame is fully compressed, I fold each quarter window in, on top of the
rear window and then fold the top forward over the compressed bows and
secure it with the boot cover or the tonneau.





At 09:50 PM 9/1/2009 , Jeff Foster wrote:
>Two-plus years ago when I trailered my new '73 MG Midget home I
>lowered the top and forgot about it!  I haven't had it out in the rain
>and it didn't get so cold that I couldn't still enjoy top-down
>motoring this past winter.  :-)
>
>Today I was doing a bit of interior cleanup and decided I'd check to
>see if the top was still there under the tonneau cover and came up
>with a couple of questions.
>
>There's a bracket at the hinge point of the top bows and an eyelet on
>the side of the wheelwell hump.
>http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/tr3-4-me/73%20MG%20Midget/DSC02522.jpg
>
>Can someone tell me what these are for?
>
>Also, what is the "proper" way to fold and store the top?

Bob Spruck
MGMaven
Sharpsburg, GA
67 Midget Vintage Racer
72 Midget Street and Show
6 parts/project cars

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep  1 20:39:32 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:39:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bracket and top questions
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909011850r3c808efbsd33ff5cc3de4333e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8de85a9c0909011850r3c808efbsd33ff5cc3de4333e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A9DDAE4.7060606@comcast.net>

Jeff Foster wrote:
>
> There's a bracket at the hinge point of the top bows and an eyelet on
> the side of the wheelwell hump.
> http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/ae23/tr3-4-me/73%20MG%20Midget/DSC02522.jpg
>
>
>   
Jeff

The brackets are for the tonneau cover support bar and/or hard top clamp 
brackets.
The eyelets are for some aftermarket type seat belt.
The originals bolted to the hump. Some one must have had clip in belts once.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Sep  1 21:25:29 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 20:25:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension question
References: <4A9DCA91.20189.34D9FA@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <25AD6A7D40CC4BE8BE1395FA6F5D8B96@MAIN>

Not sure what you mean by block of wood?  Never needed to use a block of 
wood to remove the spring pan.  The best way to lower the RB Midget is 
substitute CB springs.  Lacking those, Install spacers.  Here's the simple 
way:  Remove one front and one rear spring pan bolt and substitute longer 
bolts.  1-1/2 length work well, but exact length is unimportant as they are 
temporary. Just thread the nuts on part way, so that there is about 1/2" of 
free play.  Remove the other two bolts.  The two longer bolts will keep the 
spring in place. Then you can loosen the temporary bolts until the nut is 
near the end of the bolt and there is about 1" of free play.  Now replace 
the 2nd two bolts you just removed with 1" bolts that you want to end up 
with, installing spacers between the A-arm and spring plate, but don't 
tighten the nut down yet, just thread it on.  Next, remove the two temporary 
bolts, and install 1" bolts, and spacers in their place.  Tighten all four 
nuts.  I use nylock nuts for this application, or dab some loctite on the 
threads during assembly, or have real fun, drill the bolts and install 
safety wires.
Dave R.

PS, my band will be in Connell Saturday the 12th, isn't that about 45 
minutes from you?


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <kk7ss at verizon.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:29 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension question


>I intend to lower the front suspensdion on the '76 RB Midget by
> 1/2"...
> Would some kind lister suggest what size block of wood I should put
> under the Armstrong lever.?
> Also, possibly, what size nut and bolt to lower the pan without the
> spring taking an excursion around the garage.
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
>
> Age is just another number... !
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Sep  2 07:00:13 2009
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:00:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909011013u49f70dc2l192d663e5ce10236@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10701925.199497.1251493278446.JavaMail.txtblapp@ip-10-250-131-129.ec2.internal>
	<402188520908311855r127a89fs1b57b2378ab4e71e@mail.gmail.com>	
	<00ec01ca2aa7$bf741000$3e5c3000$@net>	
	<402188520908311907n2e5a2a89y35e14fd6ea7c7e4e@mail.gmail.com>	
	<003201ca2b06$8cff9a40$a6fecec0$@net>	
	<60504.173.7.216.0.1251813633.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<43840a7e0909011013u49f70dc2l192d663e5ce10236@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A9E6C5D.40108@wi.net>

umm, Jim?

And you know about this because.....?
I knew a ...... never mind, it's a family show.  ;-)

Dave W.

Jim Johnson wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:00 AM, <dwoerpel at wi.net 
> <mailto:dwoerpel at wi.net>> wrote:
>
>     I'll be there and am looking at my local rental tool establishment
>     for the
>     appropriate erection devices. ;-)
>
>
> Here you go, Dave....
>
> http://www.postvac.com/
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I 
> am not
> sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Sep  2 09:51:16 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:51:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Front suspension question
In-Reply-To: <4A9DCA91.20189.34D9FA@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A9DCA91.20189.34D9FA@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <9010315112.20090902085116@pacifier.com>

Hello Dave,

     Dave Riker's method is right on. I've done this on ONE SIDE only,
     to fix the tilt at the rear. I used 1/8" thick washers as my
     spacers so as to be able to drop in increments. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  If love is blind, how does love at first sight work? 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 10:54:49 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:54:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <4A9E6C5D.40108@wi.net>
References: <10701925.199497.1251493278446.JavaMail.txtblapp@ip-10-250-131-129.ec2.internal>
	<402188520908311855r127a89fs1b57b2378ab4e71e@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ec01ca2aa7$bf741000$3e5c3000$@net>
	<402188520908311907n2e5a2a89y35e14fd6ea7c7e4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<003201ca2b06$8cff9a40$a6fecec0$@net>
	<60504.173.7.216.0.1251813633.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<43840a7e0909011013u49f70dc2l192d663e5ce10236@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A9E6C5D.40108@wi.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909020954k6c85f489i2452086e6bce6dc2@mail.gmail.com>

Hey..  Its a small town.  This outfit is one of our larger employeers!  Must
be a lotta guys out there with this problem as they are one of the fastest
growing manufacturers around!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Woerpel <dwoerpel at wi.net> wrote:

> umm, Jim?
>
> And you know about this because.....?
> I knew a ...... never mind, it's a family show.  ;-)
>
> Dave W.
>
> Jim Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:00 AM, <dwoerpel at wi.net
> > <mailto:dwoerpel at wi.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     I'll be there and am looking at my local rental tool establishment
> >     for the
> >     appropriate erection devices. ;-)
> >
> >
> > Here you go, Dave....
> >
> > http://www.postvac.com/
> > --
> > Cheers!!
> > Jim
> >  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I
> > am not
> > sure about the former.  - Albert Einstein
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Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Sep  2 13:36:03 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:36:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye
Message-ID: <52DD9920-268A-4275-9EC0-DB2DA8A4FD9C@ado13.com>

Ebay #180402379093

Any body know anything about this Bugeye?

My friend is still looking for a good one.

Larry Miller

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep  2 13:53:03 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:53:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909020954k6c85f489i2452086e6bce6dc2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <10701925.199497.1251493278446.JavaMail.txtblapp@ip-10-250-131-129.ec2.internal>
	<402188520908311855r127a89fs1b57b2378ab4e71e@mail.gmail.com>
	<00ec01ca2aa7$bf741000$3e5c3000$@net>
	<402188520908311907n2e5a2a89y35e14fd6ea7c7e4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<003201ca2b06$8cff9a40$a6fecec0$@net>
	<60504.173.7.216.0.1251813633.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
	<43840a7e0909011013u49f70dc2l192d663e5ce10236@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A9E6C5D.40108@wi.net>
	<43840a7e0909020954k6c85f489i2452086e6bce6dc2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <016901ca2c06$fc2aa6c0$f47ff440$@net>

Jim Johnson wrote:  "Hey..  Its a small town.  This outfit is one of our
larger employeers"

?Pero hablan ellos inglis?

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 14:12:59 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:12:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 13999. . ? Early 58
Message-ID: <37dc82d40909021312m9d8c76i390e5de44ab5d7a7@mail.gmail.com>

Check this one out. .  Not sure about the price?

Orig 984 and also still with the smoooooth case . . but front disks.


Kirk

>From the author. .  originator:

She has the original 948 engine, smoothcase transmission and has been
upgraded with front disk brakes.

I am asking $13,995 for this one and if you know anyone looking for a fun
car with a brand new finish, send them my way! The car spent most of it's
life in Hawaii and California and was restored this year on the east coast.

Happy motoring to you all and I wish you a great holiday!

Blue Bug Slideshow:
http://s1013.photobucket.com/albums/af255/1bugeyeguy/58%20Bugeye%20an5L2150/?albumview=slideshow

PS
Did you see the electric bugeye? Posted here:
 http://www.empowercoach.com/bio3.htm

Best,

David Silberkleit
Master Certified Career and Life Coach Since 1998
203 488 9188
 http://www.empowercoach.com

Save the date! "Moving Beyond Where You Usually Stop"
January 24-27, 2010 @ Kripalu Yoga Center


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From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Sep  2 14:32:35 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:32:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 13999. . ? Early 58
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40909021312m9d8c76i390e5de44ab5d7a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <299281.99063.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

That car is in Branford CT. The seller buys and sells Bugeyes for profit. $14G
for this car is bit steep in my opinion.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT
61 Innocenti Spider
63 Pink Sprite
73 Morris Mini Van

--- On Wed, 9/2/09, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] 13999. . ? Early 58
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 4:12 PM

Check this one out. .  Not sure about the price?

Orig 984 and also still with the smoooooth case . . but front disks.


Kirk

>From the author. .  originator:

She has the original 948 engine, smoothcase transmission and has been
upgraded with front disk brakes.

I am asking $13,995 for this one and if you know anyone looking for a fun
car with a brand new finish, send them my way! The car spent most of it's
life in Hawaii and California and was restored this year on the east coast.

Happy motoring to you all and I wish you a great holiday!

Blue Bug Slideshow:
http://s1013.photobucket.com/albums/af255/1bugeyeguy/58%20Bugeye%20an5L2150/?
albumview=slideshow

PS
Did you see the electric bugeye? Posted here:
 http://www.empowercoach.com/bio3.htm

Best,

David Silberkleit
Master Certified Career and Life Coach Since 1998
203 488 9188
 http://www.empowercoach.com

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Sep  2 14:56:06 2009
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:56:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] sighting - Henniker NH
Message-ID: <4A9EDBE6.3050404@comcast.net>

"The only Henniker on Earth." I was on Rte 202 headed home to Concord NH
when I saw a tidy BRG chrome bumper Spridget with Minilites coming out of
a side street.  It made me smile.  I was on an aqua BMW motorcycle.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From nases at verizon.net  Wed Sep  2 15:52:34 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:52:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel removal
Message-ID: <DF3D671A-93B4-4765-846C-17FD064AE726@verizon.net>

Is there anything I can do before I reinstall the steering wheel to  
make the next removal any easier?

I already greased the splines and cone of column.  Every time I pull  
it it's really a struggle.

I used a jaw puller that I ground down to fit behind the stock wheel  
but it still deforms the stock wheel when I do it.

Thanks.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From gjbranch at comcast.net  Wed Sep  2 17:02:56 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:02:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] sighting - Henniker NH
In-Reply-To: <4A9EDBE6.3050404@comcast.net>
References: <4A9EDBE6.3050404@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4A9EF9A0.7010404@comcast.net>

/siKUpc: Permission denied

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 17:38:27 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:38:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel removal
In-Reply-To: <DF3D671A-93B4-4765-846C-17FD064AE726@verizon.net>
References: <DF3D671A-93B4-4765-846C-17FD064AE726@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4333f8140909021638v58da847eide61bb4e0d815461@mail.gmail.com>

Phil,
Talk to Linda and Jim F about my handy gear puller modification.  Basically
it is a 4"x4"x.25" steel plate drilled and slotted to slip behind the
wheel.  Bolt holes drilled to line up with your puller.  Because it is a
plate it pulls the  wheel around almost all of its circumference thus
avoiding high stress areas.  It worked like a charm for me and Jim.  Lin had
to modify it a bit to fit it between the cowl and the steering wheel, but
from the sounds of things it looks like it worked for her also...
Hal
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> Is there anything I can do before I reinstall the steering wheel to make
> the next removal any easier?
>
> I already greased the splines and cone of column.  Every time I pull it
> it's really a struggle.
>
> I used a jaw puller that I ground down to fit behind the stock wheel but it
> still deforms the stock wheel when I do it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/<http://home.comcast.net/%7Ephilnasecpa/>
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From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep  2 17:44:07 2009
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim  F.)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:44:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel removal
References: <DF3D671A-93B4-4765-846C-17FD064AE726@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <CA4AD6228090425D8D9CCBC1B37FD781@MAINCOMPUTER>

try a little "Never-Sieze"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Nase" <nases at verizon.net>
To: "spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel removal


> Is there anything I can do before I reinstall the steering wheel to
> make the next removal any easier?
>
> I already greased the splines and cone of column.  Every time I pull
> it it's really a struggle.
>
> I used a jaw puller that I ground down to fit behind the stock wheel
> but it still deforms the stock wheel when I do it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Wed Sep  2 17:56:44 2009
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:56:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject)
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029222BD@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Flounder-

Your life is SUCH a never-ending adventure.

You should be a musician!

-BHT

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Message: 2

Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 08:17:26 -0500

From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wmseverin at charter.net>

Subject: [Spridgets] An SOS 09 Erection (Lift) weekend Oct. 10

To: "'David Lieb'" <72spridget at gmail.com>, "'Spridgets'"

      <spridgets at autox.team.net>

Cc: Vintage-Race at Autox.Team.Net, team-thicko at autox.team.net,
'Healey

      List' <Healeys at autox.team.net>

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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"



Plans for SOS, the Erection are underway. It will take place the weekend
of Oct. 10 & 11.



Lots to do at the new Thicko shop, located in Princeton, WI.  We'll get
the MaxJax lift installed on both sides of the shop... one side (the
regular

workshop) spaced specifically for Sprite work. The other side will be
spaced for larger vehicles. There's lots of other things to get done in
terms of organization, purging, etc. If there's a plumber in the house,
speak up.



The new Thicko shop can accommodate 4 or 5 overnight guests (in real
beds), and the lake house (Green Lake, where I live now), is 10 miles
away, and can accommodate another 5.



There's a grocery store right next to the shop, so we can sacrifice the
appropriate animals. We have broadband there, so once again SOS will be
broadcast via Yahoo Messenger.



More details later. Please advise if you'd like to attend.



WST

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep  2 18:22:16 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 20:22:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting
Message-ID: <ABE7565C2E3D425DAEA5B5B7327A61E4@Home>

Check out the small DIY soda blaster at  http://www.aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/soda_blaster/

Michael Rowe

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep  2 18:42:06 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 17:42:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting
In-Reply-To: <ABE7565C2E3D425DAEA5B5B7327A61E4@Home>
References: <ABE7565C2E3D425DAEA5B5B7327A61E4@Home>
Message-ID: <F25A927FF8234795ACAD9ED28F01E301@spider>

Wonder if you could do the same thing with powdered dry ice?
...bill in oregon
====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:22 PM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting

Check out the small DIY soda blaster at
http://www.aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/soda_blaster/

Michael Rowe
_______________________________________________

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 18:45:35 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:45:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting
In-Reply-To: <ABE7565C2E3D425DAEA5B5B7327A61E4@Home>
References: <ABE7565C2E3D425DAEA5B5B7327A61E4@Home>
Message-ID: <e98d88090909021745w38c908e3vb0c8f970878c2b@mail.gmail.com>

FWIW, I just loaded up the cabinet with about 10 boxes of Dollar General
soda (half the price of Arm & Hammer) to blast the rust out of the pitting
on some chrome bolt heads on the Masi Alare I recently bought. It WILL "F"
up your chrome, if you hit it too close, but it does work well with
distance.
Just thought you should know.

Brad

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Check out the small DIY soda blaster at
> http://www.aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/soda_blaster/
>
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Sep  2 18:48:23 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:48:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting
In-Reply-To: <F25A927FF8234795ACAD9ED28F01E301@spider>
References: <ABE7565C2E3D425DAEA5B5B7327A61E4@Home>
	<F25A927FF8234795ACAD9ED28F01E301@spider>
Message-ID: <e98d88090909021748v3b9538a5i39e6c2fe50473806@mail.gmail.com>

That's more fun sealed in an empty soda bottle, after a strong squirt of
water...

heh, heh

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:42 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Wonder if you could do the same thing with powdered dry ice?
> ...bill in oregon
> ====================================================
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> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:22 PM
> To: Spridget Chat Group
> Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting
>
> Check out the small DIY soda blaster at
> http://www.aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/soda_blaster/
>
> Michael Rowe
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From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Sep  2 19:45:02 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:45:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor Quest
Message-ID: <20090903014510.6492518786D@autox.team.net>

I'm looking for information on a centrifugal advance distributor with the
following numbers;

40819H

1265 

                        Crash

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep  2 19:57:07 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:57:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor Quest
In-Reply-To: <20090903014510.6492518786D@autox.team.net>
References: <20090903014510.6492518786D@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <2B47AA71E7A549078ACB91791E407D83@HomePC>

Crash, are you aware of this site: 

http://www.teglerizer.com/mgstuff/advance_curves.htm the 

the 40819 is the very first dizzy.

LAD


--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 8:45 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor Quest

> I'm looking for information on a centrifugal advance distributor with the
> following numbers;
> 
> 40819H
> 
> 1265 
> 
>                        Crash
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Sep  2 19:57:53 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 18:57:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor Quest
In-Reply-To: <20090903014510.6492518786D@autox.team.net>
References: <20090903014510.6492518786D@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4A9F22A1.31073.75CEB5@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Mini Cooper 'S'...

Ain't Google wonderful  ;-))


On 2 Sep 2009 at 18:45, David Ramsey wrote:
>> I'm looking for information on a centrifugal advance distributor with
>> the following numbers;
>> 
>> 40819H

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'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

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From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Sep  2 23:12:50 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 22:12:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-PDX
Message-ID: <1617292760.20090902221250@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

         Most in the area already know that Labor Day weekend is "the
         big one" the All British in Porltand Oregon held in
         conjunction with the historical races at PIR. As usual there
         should be in excess of 900 entrants. The swap meet is big
         enough that it has to be held on Sunday instead of the day of
         the "show". .

         see ya there? 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  I'm losing my thought of train.... 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep  3 06:32:13 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:32:13 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Distributor Quest
In-Reply-To: <20090903014510.6492518786D@autox.team.net>
References: <20090903014510.6492518786D@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W12A6B40D7D14E3F80F4C7BB8EF0@phx.gbl>

This site seems to imply that it might be from a Cooper S.  The 1265 is
supposed to be a date code ( Dec '65 )



http://www.spritespot.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=462



RD

> From: dwramsey at att.net
>
> I'm looking for information on a centrifugal advance distributor with the
> following numbers;
>
> 40819H
>
> 1265
>
> Crash

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep  3 07:08:56 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:08:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] article on ethanol in gasoline
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W3421FAF1567BD726170C6EB8EF0@phx.gbl>
References: <B586D18D-2C70-470F-A9A7-BED461600F39@comcast.net>
	<000001ca2c81$12527e80$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> 
	<A35AEBBD9517458CAC085361F1A45758@keithhrijwmm4p> 
	<BAY112-W3421FAF1567BD726170C6EB8EF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W51361430C2CF436CADB036B8EF0@phx.gbl>

In the recent Ottawa MG Club newsletter, there is an interesting article on
ethanol in gasoline and what it means to some of us old car people.


http://www.omgc.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/dashpot_summer_2009
.pdf

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 09:40:32 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:40:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1963 Bug-Eye Sprite Racer on BaT
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909030840xae42ee7i9917ee2d4154d7c4@mail.gmail.com>

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/09/03/on-jackstands-1963-bug-eye-sprite-racer/

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 09:50:18 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:50:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1963 Bug-Eye Sprite Racer on BaT
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909030840xae42ee7i9917ee2d4154d7c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8de85a9c0909030840xae42ee7i9917ee2d4154d7c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909030850p94115d4p7d06be76d8f49a64@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jeff Foster<tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://bringatrailer.com/2009/09/03/on-jackstands-1963-bug-eye-sprite-racer/

Listing has been pulled from Craigslist...
David L

From richb at u.washington.edu  Thu Sep  3 09:58:59 2009
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 08:58:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting
References: <ABE7565C2E3D425DAEA5B5B7327A61E4@Home>
Message-ID: <4A3AAFFBF9384380971F814B26E0683A@psych.washington.edu>

$400, '74 Midget on Seattle area Craigslist near me.  NFI
http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/1355254131.html

Rich Ball
'74 Midget
Everett, Wa
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:22 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Soda Blasting


> Check out the small DIY soda blaster at 
> http://www.aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/soda_blaster/
>
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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep  3 10:06:46 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:06:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1963 Bug-Eye Sprite Racer on BaT
In-Reply-To: <402188520909030850p94115d4p7d06be76d8f49a64@mail.gmail.com
  >
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	<402188520909030850p94115d4p7d06be76d8f49a64@mail.gmail.com>
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Price reduced and moved to 
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/1356530836.html


At 10:50 AM 9/3/2009, David Lieb wrote:
>On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jeff Foster<tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> http://bringatrailer.com/2009/09/03/on-jackstands-1963-bug-eye-sprite-racer/
>
>Listing has been pulled from Craigslist...
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From richb at u.washington.edu  Thu Sep  3 10:28:37 2009
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:28:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Lock Question
References: <6DE5D8C3F64844ED90265CC2D142F10D@psych.washington.edu>
	<4A9873CC.7050309@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <D27C194885FA4DB1A44AE841923E5438@psych.washington.edu>

Thanks Frank

I was thinking about filing the pins down, but wasn't sure the lock could be 
dissembled.  Thought I'd ask here first, and it sounds like it should be. 
I'll take a look at it when we get back.  Heading out in the motorhome for a 
few days on the Washington coast.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Richard Ball" <richb at u.washington.edu>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lock Question


> Richard Ball wrote:
>>  So two questions.  Is there a key code on the trunk lock that I can use
>> to have one made?  Alternatively, can I take the lock apart and rekey it 
>> to
>> match the key I have?  I thought I would ask here before I remove it from 
>> the
>> car.
>>
> Yes there is a code on the trunk lock but you need to remove it from the 
> car, I do not know exactly where it is, I think on the square stem.
> It will start with FS and then 3 numbers.
> Or if you want, remove the guts of the lock, insert your key and file the 
> tumblers that stick up until the key turns in the lock.
> I do this all the time, one key, ignition, doors, and trunk. Beats 3 keys.
> Later Midgets with the big keys for the ignition won't work but you can 
> still have the doors and trunk matched.
> Or a locksmith can do this too.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From nsliwinski at hotmail.com  Thu Sep  3 10:56:54 2009
From: nsliwinski at hotmail.com (Norbert Sliwinski)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 12:56:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford T5 Tranny
Message-ID: <BLU147-W19A4779A3AF4DA0ACABB45D6EF0@phx.gbl>

Hello All.



Has anyone info (year, model # etc) on which tranny is compatible with a 1275
engine? I know Moss sells the whole schabang, but who does the actual
manufacturing of the adapter plate etc. I know Kennedy Engrg in CA does that
kind of work for all kind of transmission/engine configurations but not for a
1275 engine.



'73 MG Midget

Norbert

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From richb at u.washington.edu  Thu Sep  3 11:11:10 2009
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:11:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford T5 Tranny
References: <BLU147-W19A4779A3AF4DA0ACABB45D6EF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5511ED9D9CD244DABFB68B4320924933@psych.washington.edu>

The transmission in the Moss kit is the Ford T-9 which was available here in 
the US only in the Merkur XR4Ti.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Type_9_transmission

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Norbert Sliwinski" <nsliwinski at hotmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:56 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford T5 Tranny


> Hello All.
>
>
>
> Has anyone info (year, model # etc) on which tranny is compatible with a 
> 1275
> engine? I know Moss sells the whole schabang, but who does the actual
> manufacturing of the adapter plate etc. I know Kennedy Engrg in CA does 
> that
> kind of work for all kind of transmission/engine configurations but not 
> for a
> 1275 engine.
>
>
>
> '73 MG Midget
>
> Norbert
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep  3 11:18:24 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:18:24 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford T5 Tranny
Message-ID: <d17.501ac384.37d15460@aol.com>

I didn't think the T5 kit came from Moss.  Also the T5 is not an  
'accepted' gearbox swap for the Sprite/Midget as it requires a lot of cutting  and 
welding of the transmission tunnell to get it to fit.
 
I'm only aware of one car with a T5 kit in it but would be interested to  
hear of others.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
 
In a message dated 03/09/2009 18:03:22 GMT Daylight Time,  
nsliwinski at hotmail.com writes:

Hello  All.



Has anyone info (year, model # etc) on which tranny is  compatible with a 
1275
engine? I know Moss sells the whole schabang, but  who does the actual
manufacturing of the adapter plate etc. I know Kennedy  Engrg in CA does 
that
kind of work for all kind of transmission/engine  configurations but not 
for a
1275 engine.



'73 MG  Midget

Norbert

From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  3 11:37:40 2009
From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:37:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement
Message-ID: <839706.1676.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Hi Gang,

I want to replace the origional fuse block on my 1960 Bugeye.  I'd
like to have 6 or so seperate fuses IE: one for headlights, one for heater
motor, one for wipers etc.  Does any one have a suggestion as to what I
can use and supplier?

Thanks, Jim Lempe, Homer Alaska
 A penny saved is a
government oversite!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep  3 11:53:14 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:53:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement
In-Reply-To: <839706.1676.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <839706.1676.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A3F007D05DBC4ACCB235BA12F62B0526@spider>

NAPA has fuse blocks so all FLAPS should.  ...bill in oregon
=======================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Lempe
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:38 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement

Hi Gang,

I want to replace the origional fuse block on my 1960 Bugeye.  I'd
like to have 6 or so seperate fuses IE: one for headlights, one for heater
motor, one for wipers etc.  Does any one have a suggestion as to what I
can use and supplier?

Thanks, Jim Lempe, Homer Alaska
 A penny saved is a
government oversite!
_______________________________________________

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Thu Sep  3 12:03:59 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:03:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement
References: <839706.1676.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00a501ca2cc0$ea665b40$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Hi James,

I would NOT fuse the headlights.  If you feel the need to have some
electrical safety device there, use a self resetting circuit type device,
doing each headlight separately.  Driving on a twisty county road at night
with no street lighting, and your headlights go out and stay out, is a
wonderful sphincter exercise!

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Lempe" <oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:37 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement


> Hi Gang,
>
> I want to replace the origional fuse block on my 1960 Bugeye.  I'd
> like to have 6 or so seperate fuses IE: one for headlights, one for heater
> motor, one for wipers etc.  Does any one have a suggestion as to what I
> can use and supplier?
>
> Thanks, Jim Lempe, Homer Alaska
>  A penny saved is a
> government oversite!
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep  3 12:35:59 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:35:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  BE Fuse block replacement
Message-ID: <758E0A6176DA4619B41EDC7FE6102266@spider>

-----Original Message-----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:34 AM
To: 'Paul Asgeirsson'
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement

NAPA has 12volt 30amp resettable blocks that fit into a fused slot; but then
the cover won't fit ...if you have a cover. I have used one when trouble
shooting. If it trips, I just wait for it to reset and continue. ...bill in
oregon
======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Asgeirsson
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:04 AM
To: James Lempe; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement

Hi James,

I would NOT fuse the headlights.  If you feel the need to have some
electrical safety device there, use a self resetting circuit type device,
doing each headlight separately.  Driving on a twisty county road at night
with no street lighting, and your headlights go out and stay out, is a
wonderful sphincter exercise!

Later, Paul A

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 13:02:55 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:02:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1963 Bug-Eye Sprite Racer on BaT
In-Reply-To: <200909030906425.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <8de85a9c0909030840xae42ee7i9917ee2d4154d7c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909030850p94115d4p7d06be76d8f49a64@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909030906425.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090909031202l3ef1e01fx35f59d6603d702dc@mail.gmail.com>

Comments says something about RUNNING from the Paeco motor. For us
non-racers, why is that?

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> Price reduced and moved to
> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/1356530836.html
>
>
> At 10:50 AM 9/3/2009, David Lieb wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jeff Foster<tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Sep  3 13:56:25 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:56:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  BE Fuse block replacement
In-Reply-To: <758E0A6176DA4619B41EDC7FE6102266@spider>
Message-ID: <C6C56D79.207B2%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Any good electronics parts house should have a selection of fuse blocks.
Also, any place that supplies the local Hip Hop Hondas. They frequently add
a second fuse block to power the annoying subwoofers, etc.

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Thu Sep  3 14:02:18 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:02:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Simple Cars?
Message-ID: <00cc01ca2cd1$71d5bb60$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Just an ADDITIONAL 135 SKU's!
I wonder how many  are out there?

Later, Paul A


Original Engine Management Announces the Addition of 135 SKUs
New product range includes ignition, engine management and filter products.
FULL STORY

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Sep  3 14:26:47 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:26:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Simple Cars?
In-Reply-To: <00cc01ca2cd1$71d5bb60$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <53435.23718.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I work for Standard Motor Products.  We add literally hundreds of new engine
management parts every year.  Multiply that by the various brands and you get
huge numbers.  I believe we have somewhere north of 30,000 skus total... 
Parts proliferation is here to stay.
 
 - David

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at att.net> wrote:


From: Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Simple Cars?
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 3:02 PM


Just an ADDITIONAL 135 SKU's!
I wonder how many  are out there?

Later, Paul A


Original Engine Management Announces the Addition of 135 SKUs
New product range includes ignition, engine management and filter products.
FULL STORY
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From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Thu Sep  3 15:29:15 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:29:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... New Item -
 MSC195-Gearbox/Overdrive Drip Tray
References: <0be601ca2cdb$099c5220$0200000a@Workstation1>
Message-ID: <012801ca2cdd$9745a980$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Finally!

Incontinent pans for aging cars!

LOL!  Paul A

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Colin Dodds
  To: spridgets-aus at yahoogroups.com ; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com ;
bugeye at yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 2:10 PM
  Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... New Item - MSC195-Gearbox/Overdrive Drip
Tray


    ahspares newsletterG'day guys

  Here's new item from a company that really understands our British cars.
Perhaps we can convince them to make a similar nappy for A-series engines.

  avagoodday
  Colin
  www.SpriteParts.com.au

  NEW ITEM!
  MSC195-GEARBOX/OVERDRIVE DRIP TRAY



  Stop those annoying oily patches when you park your Healey with this
ingenious invention from one of our trade customers. The drip tray attaches to
the chassis and catches all the oil drips from the gearbox bell housing and
overdrive. Remove and clean every service oil change and this will save your
driveway or garage floor from dirty black patches.

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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 16:18:15 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 15:18:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford T5 Tranny
In-Reply-To: <d17.501ac384.37d15460@aol.com>
References: <d17.501ac384.37d15460@aol.com>
Message-ID: <441250190909031518u4f766e6s1fc7294c343134b4@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel and Richard are correct. the Tranny in questions is the Ford T9.
That transmission is very hard to find in the US.

We need a Miata tranny sway.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:18 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> I didn't think the T5 kit came from Moss.  Also the T5 is not an
> 'accepted' gearbox swap for the Sprite/Midget as it requires a lot of
> cutting  and
> welding of the transmission tunnell to get it to fit.
>
> I'm only aware of one car with a T5 kit in it but would be interested to
> hear of others.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
>
>
> In a message dated 03/09/2009 18:03:22 GMT Daylight Time,
> nsliwinski at hotmail.com writes:
>
> Hello  All.
>
>
>
> Has anyone info (year, model # etc) on which tranny is  compatible with a
> 1275
> engine? I know Moss sells the whole schabang, but  who does the actual
> manufacturing of the adapter plate etc. I know Kennedy  Engrg in CA does
> that
> kind of work for all kind of transmission/engine  configurations but not
> for a
> 1275 engine.
>
>
>
> '73 MG  Midget
>
> Norbert
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Thu Sep  3 16:32:56 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 18:32:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheap Fenders?
Message-ID: <95791CD020AB4399B84F983EDC7C0747@AndrewHP>

Hey folks,

I am in Boone NC and am looking for cheap or free fenders nearby.
Specifically, a set left and right, with good arches, otherwise in most any
condition.  I will be cutting the arches for the rear wheels, so they could
have problems in other common areas.

Free Fender Stratocasters will also be accepted.

Thanks, 

Drew

'76 still coming apart.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep  3 17:05:14 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:05:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Simple Cars?
In-Reply-To: <53435.23718.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <00cc01ca2cd1$71d5bb60$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<53435.23718.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <42DBC2AEE62E4773AB60D89D056252F1@spider>

SKU = Stock Keeping Unit

====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 1:27 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net; Paul Asgeirsson
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Simple Cars?

I work for Standard Motor Products.  We add literally hundreds of new engine
management parts every year.  Multiply that by the various brands and you
get
huge numbers.  I believe we have somewhere north of 30,000 skus total... 
Parts proliferation is here to stay.
 
 - David

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at att.net> wrote:


From: Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Simple Cars?
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 3:02 PM


Just an ADDITIONAL 135 SKU's!
I wonder how many  are out there?

Later, Paul A


Original Engine Management Announces the Addition of 135 SKUs
New product range includes ignition, engine management and filter products.
FULL STORY
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From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Thu Sep  3 17:32:03 2009
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 19:32:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement
In-Reply-To: <00a501ca2cc0$ea665b40$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <839706.1676.qm@web45716.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<00a501ca2cc0$ea665b40$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <200909032332.n83NWSNt007849@mail.usimperio.com>

Now that is funny, I don't care who you are.
Very descriptive.

Dave


At 02:03 PM 9/3/2009, you wrote:
>Hi James,
>
>I would NOT fuse the headlights.  If you feel the need to have some
>electrical safety device there, use a self resetting circuit type device,
>doing each headlight separately.  Driving on a twisty county road at night
>with no street lighting, and your headlights go out and stay out, is a
>wonderful sphincter exercise!
>
>Later, Paul A
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James Lempe" <oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com>
>To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:37 AM
>Subject: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement
>
>
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > I want to replace the origional fuse block on my 1960 Bugeye.  I'd
> > like to have 6 or so seperate fuses IE: one for headlights, one for heater
> > motor, one for wipers etc.  Does any one have a suggestion as to what I
> > can use and supplier?
> >
> > Thanks, Jim Lempe, Homer Alaska
> >  A penny saved is a
> > government oversite!

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Sep  3 18:02:26 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:02:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheap Fenders?
In-Reply-To: <95791CD020AB4399B84F983EDC7C0747@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <C6C5A722.207CE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

OK, I'm guessing these are rear fenders. Do I also have to guess Bugeye or
square body, round or square arch?

> I am in Boone NC and am looking for cheap or free fenders nearby.
> Specifically, a set left and right, with good arches, otherwise in most any
> condition.  I will be cutting the arches for the rear wheels, so they could
> have problems in other common areas.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Thu Sep  3 18:21:04 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:21:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Britain' s love affair with the Mini continues
Message-ID: <00d301ca2cf5$979478e0$c6bd6aa0$@net>

Delightful stories on the Mini.  From this story, check out the others
listed on the indented left side, as well as slide show to the right.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6820938.ece 

From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Sep  3 18:30:14 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 17:30:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Pads
Message-ID: <A32B4A1A-0A80-4554-9464-84748D90475D@ado13.com>

I asked the list about front brake pads a few weeks ago and a few  
people asked me to post what I finally decided on. So here it is.

http://tinyurl.com/nqlazp

Ceramic pads with no squeal and no, or very little dust. I have about  
150 miles on a set and so far I like them very much.

For die hard MOSS fans, they sell them for about the same price.

Larry Miller

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Thu Sep  3 18:31:13 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 00:31:13 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheap Fenders?
Message-ID: <672889797-1252024269-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1051765100-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Could be, but I am actually looking for FRONT fenders. I got some tips earlier about doing a round arch conversion with front fenders. Since they are common and I can use kind of banged up fenders, it seems like a great (and cheap) fender option.
Drew
------Original Message------
From: Billy Zoom
To: Andrew G. Payne
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cheap Fenders?
Sent: Sep 3, 2009 8:02 PM

OK, I'm guessing these are rear fenders. Do I also have to guess Bugeye or
square body, round or square arch?

> I am in Boone NC and am looking for cheap or free fenders nearby.
> Specifically, a set left and right, with good arches, otherwise in most any
> condition.  I will be cutting the arches for the rear wheels, so they could
> have problems in other common areas.




Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 19:14:31 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 18:14:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Britain' s love affair with the Mini continues
In-Reply-To: <00d301ca2cf5$979478e0$c6bd6aa0$@net>
References: <00d301ca2cf5$979478e0$c6bd6aa0$@net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909031814kf892203g73f36eddb960ff4b@mail.gmail.com>

Though the MINI is okay...you can't beat a Mini!Herb

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep  3 19:22:40 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 21:22:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... New Item -
 MSC195-Gearbox/Overdrive Drip Tray
In-Reply-To: <012801ca2cdd$9745a980$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <0be601ca2cdb$099c5220$0200000a@Workstation1>
	<012801ca2cdd$9745a980$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP550350B9A08F67E6D52371B8EE0@phx.gbl>

I received that from AHSpares today and, since I park one car over 2 others,
it did get me to thinking ... :)

http://www.ahspares.co.uk/products/productdetail.aspx?GUID=b4a4db5b-2f0a-416
a-a44c-16d0ae885d49

or
http://preview.tinyurl.com/myv9xs

The email had a second image of the installed product ...


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Asgeirsson


Finally!

Incontinent pans for aging cars!

LOL!  Paul A

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Colin Dodds
  Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... New Item - MSC195-Gearbox/Overdrive Drip
Tray


    ahspares newsletterG'day guys

  Here's new item from a company that really understands our British cars.
Perhaps we can convince them to make a similar nappy for A-series engines.

  avagoodday
  Colin
  www.SpriteParts.com.au

  NEW ITEM!
  MSC195-GEARBOX/OVERDRIVE DRIP TRAY



  Stop those annoying oily patches when you park your Healey with this
ingenious invention from one of our trade customers. The drip tray attaches
to
the chassis and catches all the oil drips from the gearbox bell housing and
overdrive. Remove and clean every service oil change and this will save your
driveway or garage floor from dirty black patches.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Sep  3 20:43:40 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:43:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Another file to fit
Message-ID: <4AA07EDC.8000606@comcast.net>

Last year someone decided NOT to use their moss (mainly our shit sucks) 
side mount oil filter.
So they donated it to the Holy Sprite project.
I tried it on the Holy Sprite and the hose interfered with the dip stick 
pretty bad so I opted not to use it.
So I re-discovered it while looking for some engine parts in a cabinet 
in the garage and since I was whipping up a spare engine for
the Lady Bug ('nother story) I tried this side mount filter kit from 
Most of Our Stuff is Shit. Since the 1275 dip stick is bent a little, I 
bent it more and it cleared the hose
But it still made for adjusting the timing a bit tough.
Anyway, last night Tiff's boy friend and I swap engines in about an hour 
(bonnet never came off the Bugeye) and before the beer break we fired it up.
Oil squirting out from the filter adapter like an oil well.
Called it quits for the night and today I took it off, checked it out, 
no burrs, not loose, gasket set correct and it wasn't leaking from the hose.
Re-install the part where they sell Mostly Oriental SUBSTANDARD SHIT, 
put in 2 more qts of oil only to have it squirt out from behind the adapter.
I put the stock spin on set up from the first engine on the new engine 
and no more leak. But now I have 3 qts on the garage floor and all over 
the nice new engine
thanks to some Maggot Of a Shit Supplier.
Tonight some one stopped by and we checked the side mount unit against 
the old engine, there is a chamfer on the bottom of this thing to clear 
the lower edge of the engine.
Guess what? If I knew enough to FILE TO FIT like all the parts from the 
Makers Of Sheer Shit, and ground about a 1/6 off that chamfer, it would 
have cleared the lower lip of the block.
No instructions but from past (20 years ago) experience, I should have 
known I needed to file it to fit right.
If the Manufacturer Of Stagnant Slop thinks I was a thorn in their side 
before.
Just wait til the new tee shirts and buttons come out!
And they will be "pollution resistant" unlike their excuse for quality 
rubber that goes away in a month.
If you buy anything from Mo$$, It's your own fault. It WILL fail it it 
even works out of the box.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Mo$$ SUCKS

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Sep  3 20:56:43 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:56:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] article on ethanol in gasoline
References: <B586D18D-2C70-470F-A9A7-BED461600F39@comcast.net><000001ca2c81$12527e80$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q>
	<A35AEBBD9517458CAC085361F1A45758@keithhrijwmm4p>
	<BAY112-W3421FAF1567BD726170C6EB8EF0@phx.gbl>
	<BAY112-W51361430C2CF436CADB036B8EF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A1C99F299B154089B31EAC541AF7CC01@Thinkpad>

I tell you what, ethanol in the gas is killing efi fuel pumps
in recent Ford vehicles.  My 2003 Sport trac, my brother's 2003 F-150
and my coworkers 2001 Expedition.

These all failed around the same time and all vehicles had widely different 
mileages.

The only thing I've seen that addresses the issue is Sta-Bil's a marine 
formula
that is supposed to minimize the corrosion effects.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:08 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] article on ethanol in gasoline


> In the recent Ottawa MG Club newsletter, there is an interesting article 
> on
> ethanol in gasoline and what it means to some of us old car people.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Sep  3 22:26:34 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 00:26:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Moss things that are wrong...
References: <4AA07EDC.8000606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BDE686AA11D642CC92BF6DFDA378D5B3@blackbox2>

It's hit or miss Frank.

Some things from Moss are the same things you get from everybody else.
I'll still order from them but I will be more careful.

The best thing to be done is to chime out on the things that are wrong
so the rest of us can avoid those items.

I would not have ordered Moss's green engine paint if I had known it was the wrong color.
When I mention it to the list it's almost like it's common knowledge.

So, We need a list of Moss things that are wrong.
Not to mention a proper alternative.

So let's start

1) Moss Green engine paint is the wrong color.  I understand Peter C sells the right stuff.. 
2) Moss bugeye bonnet seal is thicker than original by at least an 1/8th of an inch.
    It's a bear to install because of this.  I think I should have ordered Frogeye Spares
    part number BN15 "new softer type"     
    
Add yours to the list and pass it around.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:43 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Another file to fit


> Last year someone decided NOT to use their moss (mainly our shit sucks) 
> side mount oil filter.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 23:20:27 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:20:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another file to fit
In-Reply-To: <4AA07EDC.8000606@comcast.net>
References: <4AA07EDC.8000606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909032220m262a6648q9bb407cc964d1e37@mail.gmail.com>

Its okay, Frank.  Don't hold back.  Say what you think.  We can handle
it....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Last year someone decided NOT to use their moss (mainly our shit sucks)
> side mount oil filter.
> So they donated it to the Holy Sprite project.
> I tried it on the Holy Sprite and the hose interfered with the dip stick
> pretty bad so I opted not to use it.
> So I re-discovered it while looking for some engine parts in a cabinet in
> the garage and since I was whipping up a spare engine for
> the Lady Bug ('nother story) I tried this side mount filter kit from Most
> of Our Stuff is Shit. Since the 1275 dip stick is bent a little, I bent it
> more and it cleared the hose
> But it still made for adjusting the timing a bit tough.
> Anyway, last night Tiff's boy friend and I swap engines in about an hour
> (bonnet never came off the Bugeye) and before the beer break we fired it
up.
> Oil squirting out from the filter adapter like an oil well.
> Called it quits for the night and today I took it off, checked it out, no
> burrs, not loose, gasket set correct and it wasn't leaking from the hose.
> Re-install the part where they sell Mostly Oriental SUBSTANDARD SHIT, put
> in 2 more qts of oil only to have it squirt out from behind the adapter.
> I put the stock spin on set up from the first engine on the new engine and
> no more leak. But now I have 3 qts on the garage floor and all over the
nice
> new engine
> thanks to some Maggot Of a Shit Supplier.
> Tonight some one stopped by and we checked the side mount unit against the
> old engine, there is a chamfer on the bottom of this thing to clear the
> lower edge of the engine.
> Guess what? If I knew enough to FILE TO FIT like all the parts from the
> Makers Of Sheer Shit, and ground about a 1/6 off that chamfer, it would
have
> cleared the lower lip of the block.
> No instructions but from past (20 years ago) experience, I should have
> known I needed to file it to fit right.
> If the Manufacturer Of Stagnant Slop thinks I was a thorn in their side
> before.
> Just wait til the new tee shirts and buttons come out!
> And they will be "pollution resistant" unlike their excuse for quality
> rubber that goes away in a month.
> If you buy anything from Mo$$, It's your own fault. It WILL fail it it even
> works out of the box.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Mo$$ SUCKS
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From jjj at acsnet.com  Thu Sep  3 23:50:39 2009
From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 00:50:39 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] (spridgets) ethanol in gasoline
Message-ID: <3226.66.172.236.67.1252043439.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>

Had to reply to this post. I am a corn farmer in the midwest that has been
using ethanol blended gas in brit cars since the 80's. THIS IS BUNK!!!
These people are SELLING something and the main thing they are selling is
FEAR! If gas stratified to a blend of 75% alcohol I doubt any of our cars
would run on it without drilling out the jets!
Alcohol does blend with water and that is why it was used as a antifreeze
before ethelene glycol.
I have never had problems with gas tank rust before or after ethanol came
along because I fill my tanks before storage to stop condensation.
Ethanol will give you slightly lower fuel economy that I figure is
compensated by lower cost. It also will clean out any rust and gunk in
your tank so keep some extra fuel filters on hand when you  first start
using it.
My british rubber and plastic parts have stood up to it just fine.
At 10% it replaces MTBE a suspected carcinegen that has a long life and is
showing up in ground water. Do I think it will solve our energy problems?
No, I do not.
Cheers, Kurt.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  4 02:48:42 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 01:48:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Simple Cars?
In-Reply-To: <42DBC2AEE62E4773AB60D89D056252F1@spider>
Message-ID: <742598.3041.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 9/3/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> "wrote:
SKU = Stock Keeping Unit"
 
Sorry, I've used the term for decades (and not only in the automotive
aftermarket) so I guess I think of it as something everybody knows. Not only
that, but I use it lazily by pronouncing it "skew" rather than saying each
letter individually as I suppose would probably be proper.
 
 - David
 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 06:05:59 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:05:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Moss things that are wrong...
In-Reply-To: <BDE686AA11D642CC92BF6DFDA378D5B3@blackbox2>
References: <4AA07EDC.8000606@comcast.net>
	<BDE686AA11D642CC92BF6DFDA378D5B3@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <e98d88090909040505p26fe90a9y89121df4af007a57@mail.gmail.com>

Their interior panel set for roll up window cars, is for the early cars,
with the metal window cranks, NOT for the later cars with plastic cranks.
God help you if you call and complain. Ask me how I know....

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> It's hit or miss Frank.
>
> Some things from Moss are the same things you get from everybody else.
> I'll still order from them but I will be more careful.
>
> The best thing to be done is to chime out on the things that are wrong
> so the rest of us can avoid those items.
>
> I would not have ordered Moss's green engine paint if I had known it was
> the wrong color.
> When I mention it to the list it's almost like it's common knowledge.
>
> So, We need a list of Moss things that are wrong.
> Not to mention a proper alternative.
>
> So let's start
>
> 1) Moss Green engine paint is the wrong color.  I understand Peter C sells
> the right stuff.. 2) Moss bugeye bonnet seal is thicker than original by at
> least an 1/8th of an inch.
>   It's a bear to install because of this.  I think I should have ordered
> Frogeye Spares
>   part number BN15 "new softer type"       Add yours to the list and pass
> it around.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:43 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Another file to fit
>
>
>  Last year someone decided NOT to use their moss (mainly our shit sucks)
>> side mount oil filter.
>>
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep  4 06:09:50 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:09:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Moss things that are wrong...
In-Reply-To: <BDE686AA11D642CC92BF6DFDA378D5B3@blackbox2>
References: <4AA07EDC.8000606@comcast.net>
	<BDE686AA11D642CC92BF6DFDA378D5B3@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4AA1038E.90907@comcast.net>

Easy question, simple answer.
EVERYTHING

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep  4 06:16:19 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:16:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (spridgets) ethanol in gasoline
In-Reply-To: <3226.66.172.236.67.1252043439.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
References: <3226.66.172.236.67.1252043439.squirrel@www.acsnet.com>
Message-ID: <4AA10513.3000700@comcast.net>

jjj at acsnet.com wrote:
> Had to reply to this post. I am a corn farmer in the midwest that has been
> using ethanol blended gas in brit cars since the 80's. THIS IS BUNK!!!
>   
I agree with Kurt.
Some of my LBCs sit for 6 months at a time in a damp leaky chicken coop, 
no water absorption problems.
Now is the ethanol dissolving the fuel lines or is it just moss like 
fuel lines made with todays "quality" rubber that just does not mix with 
gas?
That has been my only problem but using a german fuel line has 
eliminated that problem.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep  4 08:47:23 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 14:47:23 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
In-Reply-To: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DDE2@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DDE2@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W2981DB577F550548A5249FB8EE0@phx.gbl>

He likes pleasing himself, eh ?

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/090903/K090306AU.html

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep  4 09:10:51 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:10:51 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W2981DB577F550548A5249FB8EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DDE2@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY112-W2981DB577F550548A5249FB8EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W28D98DF79616E783C29665B8EE0@phx.gbl>

Oh, it's Bridget the Midget!



http://www.mgcars.org.uk/news/news1024.html



www.bridgetthemidget.co.uk



> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/090903/K090306AU.html

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 09:15:31 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:15:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W2981DB577F550548A5249FB8EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DDE2@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY112-W2981DB577F550548A5249FB8EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520909040815k6d435338rb3b8066707325990@mail.gmail.com>

Careful there, Robert... That is Bridget the Midget that you are
talking about. 1976 green Midget.
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 09:26:55 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:26:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W6A06BBD7DE2BB75D90A24B8EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DDE2@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY112-W2981DB577F550548A5249FB8EE0@phx.gbl>
	<402188520909040815k6d435338rb3b8066707325990@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W6A06BBD7DE2BB75D90A24B8EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520909040826n1835b227hc11283b3505a63f3@mail.gmail.com>

>> Careful there, Robert... That is Bridget the Midget that you are
>> talking about. 1976 green Midget.

> I just discovered that.  I should have known!

Obviously not by googling the phrase "Bridget the Midget"!
NWS!!!
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 09:28:23 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:28:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
In-Reply-To: <402188520909040826n1835b227hc11283b3505a63f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DDE2@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY112-W2981DB577F550548A5249FB8EE0@phx.gbl>
	<402188520909040815k6d435338rb3b8066707325990@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W6A06BBD7DE2BB75D90A24B8EE0@phx.gbl>
	<402188520909040826n1835b227hc11283b3505a63f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909040828q31ddcfadxb033c5cf6c3e1f2f@mail.gmail.com>

Can someone explain to me how an "around the world" drive can end in
Chicago when it certainly did not start there? I am a bit puzzled by
the logic.
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 09:52:28 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:52:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
In-Reply-To: <402188520909040828q31ddcfadxb033c5cf6c3e1f2f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DDE2@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY112-W2981DB577F550548A5249FB8EE0@phx.gbl>
	<402188520909040815k6d435338rb3b8066707325990@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W6A06BBD7DE2BB75D90A24B8EE0@phx.gbl>
	<402188520909040826n1835b227hc11283b3505a63f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909040828q31ddcfadxb033c5cf6c3e1f2f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909040852v16cb10dbia70778f0a5b2a726@mail.gmail.com>

> Can someone explain to me how an "around the world" drive can end in
> Chicago when it certainly did not start there? I am a bit puzzled by
> the logic.

And the non-answer is that Roy has decided to end it in Toronto
instead of Chicago. Still seems a bit strange as he started from
England.
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep  4 09:58:07 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:58:07 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
In-Reply-To: <402188520909040852v16cb10dbia70778f0a5b2a726@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DDE2@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
	<BAY112-W2981DB577F550548A5249FB8EE0@phx.gbl>
	<402188520909040815k6d435338rb3b8066707325990@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W6A06BBD7DE2BB75D90A24B8EE0@phx.gbl>
	<402188520909040826n1835b227hc11283b3505a63f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909040828q31ddcfadxb033c5cf6c3e1f2f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<402188520909040852v16cb10dbia70778f0a5b2a726@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W3057F1F86DD10982334C6CB8EE0@phx.gbl>

Coming all that distance and stopping short of Ottawa??!!  I'll have to set
the local MG club on him and see if we can convince him to come a bit
further.



> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:52:28 -0500
>
> > Can someone explain to me how an "around the world" drive can end in
> > Chicago when it certainly did not start there? I am a bit puzzled by
> > the logic.
>
> And the non-answer is that Roy has decided to end it in Toronto
> instead of Chicago. Still seems a bit strange as he started from
> England.
> David L

From richb at u.washington.edu  Fri Sep  4 11:35:55 2009
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:35:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheap Fenders?
References: <672889797-1252024269-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1051765100-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <6F7E1C32117342588C512C4633B793E0@m275laptop>

These are  probably too big for what you want to do, but I have seen a few 
pages where MGB guys have used Dodge Omni or Plymouth Horizon front fenders 
to add faired arches to their B's.
http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?11,2500

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <andrewpayne at intrex.net>
To: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cheap Fenders?


> Could be, but I am actually looking for FRONT fenders. I got some tips 
> earlier about doing a round arch conversion with front fenders. Since they 
> are common and I can use kind of banged up fenders, it seems like a great 
> (and cheap) fender option.
> Drew
> ------Original Message------
> From: Billy Zoom
> To: Andrew G. Payne
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cheap Fenders?
> Sent: Sep 3, 2009 8:02 PM
>
> OK, I'm guessing these are rear fenders. Do I also have to guess Bugeye or
> square body, round or square arch?
>
>> I am in Boone NC and am looking for cheap or free fenders nearby.
>> Specifically, a set left and right, with good arches, otherwise in most 
>> any
>> condition.  I will be cutting the arches for the rear wheels, so they 
>> could
>> have problems in other common areas.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep  4 11:50:53 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:50:53 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
Message-ID: <c79.620a8a91.37d2ad7d@aol.com>

I'd just like to know how anyone can drive over the oceans of the world in  
a car.
 
In a message dated 04/09/2009 16:54:10 GMT Daylight Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

Can  someone explain to me how an "around the world" drive can end in
Chicago  when it certainly did not start there? I am a bit puzzled by
the  logic.
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep  4 11:58:52 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:58:52 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
In-Reply-To: <c79.620a8a91.37d2ad7d@aol.com>
References: <c79.620a8a91.37d2ad7d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W12D15E23EA3465E6666D4B8EE0@phx.gbl>

Really wide tires!  ;)



He cheated.  The car took a boat and he flew.  ( Well, he took a plane ... )



RD



From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com



I'd just like to know how anyone can drive over the oceans of the world in a
car.

In a message dated 04/09/2009 16:54:10 GMT Daylight Time, 72spridget at gmail.com
writes:
Can someone explain to me how an "around the world" drive can end in
Chicago when it certainly did not start there? I am a bit puzzled by
the logic.
David L

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 12:10:23 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:10:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] but ... what was he driving?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W12D15E23EA3465E6666D4B8EE0@phx.gbl>
References: <c79.620a8a91.37d2ad7d@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W12D15E23EA3465E6666D4B8EE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e98d88090909041110v5cf62769h22404d1e3ea5d611@mail.gmail.com>

To really be fair, he should have driven the car around the deck, for the
duration of the crossing, to make up the miles.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Really wide tires!  ;)
>
>
>
> He cheated.  The car took a boat and he flew.  ( Well, he took a plane ...
> )
>
>
>
> RD
>
>
>
> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
>
>
> I'd just like to know how anyone can drive over the oceans of the world in
> a
> car.
>
> In a message dated 04/09/2009 16:54:10 GMT Daylight Time,
> 72spridget at gmail.com
> writes:
> Can someone explain to me how an "around the world" drive can end in
> Chicago when it certainly did not start there? I am a bit puzzled by
> the logic.
> David L
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 12:15:19 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:15:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hilarious...LGC
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909041115u62b8e90cl5bc300d1dcf15312@mail.gmail.com>

Need a unique 'family car'?

Herb
Grants Pass, Oregon


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-VW-Vanagon-Carat-w-250-hp-Audi-Turbocharged-Motor_W0QQitemZ300343875744QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item45ede3d8a0&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Sep  4 12:38:21 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 11:38:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hilarious...LGC
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909041115u62b8e90cl5bc300d1dcf15312@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6C6ACAD.20818%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Are any of you familiar with the big '80's VW vans that had a turbo charged
flat six between the front seats, and went like stink? We used one for
touring Europe back in the day. I've never seen anything like them over
here.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 12:43:21 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:43:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hilarious...LGC
In-Reply-To: <C6C6ACAD.20818%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10909041115u62b8e90cl5bc300d1dcf15312@mail.gmail.com>
	<C6C6ACAD.20818%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909041143h5bbf42e2h64c800e3fd3c643a@mail.gmail.com>

I've seen the video...nice, very nice.
Looked quite impressive as it passed the 911.  Think it was filmed at the
Ring.

Oh how I miss the GPs there from the '60's.

Herb

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> Are any of you familiar with the big '80's VW vans that had a turbo charged
> flat six between the front seats, and went like stink? We used one for
> touring Europe back in the day. I've never seen anything like them over
> here.

From smarc at smarc.net  Fri Sep  4 13:08:10 2009
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:08:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FS posting - 73midget
Message-ID: <4AA1659A.2070606@smarc.net>

http://www.mgsofbaltimore.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=140&p=283#p283

-- 

Marc

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep  4 13:12:45 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 14:12:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] UPS and Customs/Brokers M'aidez
Message-ID: <200909041212526.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Any of you lot familiar with the black art of customs? Especially 
UPS's version of brokerage fees?

A customer shipped some shocks from Canadia via UPS for us to 
rebuild, and 2 weeks later I get invoiced by UPS for customs and 
brokerage fees (duty $9.23 + Govt charges other than duty $2.00 + 
Brokerage charges $29.75). A little late for me to charge the 
customer! The label specifically shows "car parts return for rebuild to USA".

I generally like UPS, but this seems a bit usurious.

While I wait for them to reply, I thought I'd ask if any of you know 
how to avoid these situations. Note: I recommend US Mail for Canadian 
shipments.

Thanks

Peter C.

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Sep  4 13:36:33 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 15:36:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel tank leak around sending unit
Message-ID: <8405t6$70g27r@email.mtu.edu>

When I restored my '66 Sprite, I put in a new (eBay) gas tank, but 
used the original sending unit. This setup uses the cork ring and six 
bolts rather than the locking ring. I assembled it dry assuming the 
cork would seal properly. When the tank is full, it leaks around the 
sending unit. I know because I also painted the tank and can see 
stains coming from that area. So, this week I took the tank out and 
added a Hylomar seal to all surfaces and put it all back in. Now that 
everything is buttoned up I am having one of those Oh, No moments. Is 
it possible for gas to get into the sending unit where the resistor 
and wiper live and then leak out the cover plate of that assembly? I 
did use a new gasket on the resistor "pocket" when I first rebuilt 
things, but I didn't do anything to that particular gasket when I had 
the tank out this week. It doesn't seem like you would ever want 
gasoline to be in the resistor pocket, but does that sometimes 
happen. I'd like to know before refilling the tank. Thanks.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Fri Sep  4 13:55:15 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:55:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] UPS and Customs/Brokers M'aidez
References: <200909041212526.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <017601ca2d99$b621e000$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

I've had the same experience with what I call heavy UPS fees.  Not a lot of
fun.  Using the postal service for me has been usually the best way to go,
but Fedex for the heavier items.

By the way, using a flat rate USPS box to ship modified flywheels is really
a bargain!

After mailing a 65 lb transmission to OZ, I happened to see a Fedex truck
picking up packages to the rear of the P.O.!

Was 1/2 the price of using Fedex directly, but turns out they were the
carriers!

Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:12 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] UPS and Customs/Brokers M'aidez


> Any of you lot familiar with the black art of customs? Especially
> UPS's version of brokerage fees?
>
> A customer shipped some shocks from Canadia via UPS for us to
> rebuild, and 2 weeks later I get invoiced by UPS for customs and
> brokerage fees (duty $9.23 + Govt charges other than duty $2.00 +
> Brokerage charges $29.75). A little late for me to charge the
> customer! The label specifically shows "car parts return for rebuild to
USA".
>
> I generally like UPS, but this seems a bit usurious.
>
> While I wait for them to reply, I thought I'd ask if any of you know
> how to avoid these situations. Note: I recommend US Mail for Canadian
> shipments.
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter C.
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep  4 14:02:11 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:02:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hilarious...LGC
In-Reply-To: <C6C6ACAD.20818%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <771630.21482.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Billy, They were never brought here.  DOn't know that I've ever even seen one,
though have heard tale of their existence.  There are lots of interesting
V-dubs we never got.  I really like this van here - I personally don't need a
vehicle this big, but what a cool way to tour around the country. Hey, didn't
I hear that Weir, Lesh and company got the Dead back together and did some
shows recently? What better way to go see them...
 - David

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:


From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hilarious...LGC
To: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>, "Spridgeteers"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Wedge List" <tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 1:38 PM


Are any of you familiar with the big '80's VW vans that had a turbo charged
flat six between the front seats, and went like stink? We used one for
touring Europe back in the day. I've never seen anything like them over
here.
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 14:13:08 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:13:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] UPS and Customs/Brokers M'aidez
In-Reply-To: <017601ca2d99$b621e000$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <200909041212526.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<017601ca2d99$b621e000$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <402188520909041313j2344d92fv88672a67eb70c3fa@mail.gmail.com>

>> Any of you lot familiar with the black art of customs? Especially
>> UPS's version of brokerage fees?

Yeah, I have bought MG parts from Canada and the UK and the one thing
you can count on is that UPS is the worst possible choice. They charge
you for customs, PLUS they charge you additionally simply for having
driven across the Canadian border! Any time there is a choice, do not
use UPS for international. Console yourself that the customer probably
got soaked for it on the way back.
David L

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep  4 14:36:54 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 13:36:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] UPS and Customs/Brokers M'aidez
In-Reply-To: <402188520909041313j2344d92fv88672a67eb70c3fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200909041212526.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<017601ca2d99$b621e000$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<402188520909041313j2344d92fv88672a67eb70c3fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909041336w1f694eb0h8b3577deef160664@mail.gmail.com>

I often buy BMW motorcycle stuff from a company in Switzerland. They ship
using Post Swisse - the Swiss postal system. It is much cheaper than the big
global companies like UPS, DHL, and FedEx.  I find USPS best for shipping
stuff to Europe. Admittedly, I don't ship much, but the times I have done so
I've found USPS considerably cheaper and easier to get stuff through
customs.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:13 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> >> Any of you lot familiar with the black art of customs? Especially
> >> UPS's version of brokerage fees?
>
> Yeah, I have bought MG parts from Canada and the UK and the one thing
> you can count on is that UPS is the worst possible choice. They charge
> you for customs, PLUS they charge you additionally simply for having
> driven across the Canadian border! Any time there is a choice, do not
> use UPS for international. Console yourself that the customer probably
> got soaked for it on the way back.
> David L
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Fri Sep  4 18:40:41 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 19:40:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wire wheel conversion?
Message-ID: <2F532C98631E43649A41ABAC0C16D330@BASEMENTDELL>

 A non-mechanical friend of mine on the left coast saw this.  Has anyone
used these?  First look it just doesn't seem right....

Subject: looks like I can convert from caps to wires

http://www.britishwirewheel.com/conversions.htm

not for me, NFI, etc.

Chris

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Sep  4 19:31:58 2009
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 21:31:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  BE Fuse block replacement
In-Reply-To: <758E0A6176DA4619B41EDC7FE6102266@spider>
References: <758E0A6176DA4619B41EDC7FE6102266@spider>
Message-ID: <FB4CC828-2420-4F75-AA4C-9A172EC5747A@phillymgclub.com>

Or they don't trip on a hot day and melt the wiring harness.

Don't ask.

Larry

On Sep 3, 2009, at 2:35 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> <corvallis at peoplepc.com 
 > wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [mailto:corvallis at peoplepc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:34 AM
> To: 'Paul Asgeirsson'
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement
>
> NAPA has 12volt 30amp resettable blocks that fit into a fused slot;  
> but then
> the cover won't fit ...if you have a cover. I have used one when  
> trouble
> shooting. If it trips, I just wait for it to reset and  
> continue. ...bill in
> oregon
> ======================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Asgeirsson
> Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 11:04 AM
> To: James Lempe; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BE Fuse block replacement
>
> Hi James,
>
> I would NOT fuse the headlights.  If you feel the need to have some
> electrical safety device there, use a self resetting circuit type  
> device,
> doing each headlight separately.  Driving on a twisty county road at  
> night
> with no street lighting, and your headlights go out and stay out, is a
> wonderful sphincter exercise!
>
> Later, Paul A
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Philadelphia MG Club


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arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in  
sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally  
worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!".

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Fri Sep  4 19:34:05 2009
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 21:34:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ford T5 Tranny
In-Reply-To: <441250190909031518u4f766e6s1fc7294c343134b4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d17.501ac384.37d15460@aol.com>
	<441250190909031518u4f766e6s1fc7294c343134b4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9D20AB90-AB82-4AE2-B191-45961820FC5E@phillymgclub.com>

I sourced mine from Bloody Old. Was cheaper than getting it from
Connecticut.

Larry

On Sep 3, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Bill Gilroy wrote:

> Daniel and Richard are correct. the Tranny in questions is the Ford
> T9.
> That transmission is very hard to find in the US.
>
> We need a Miata tranny sway.
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:18 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I didn't think the T5 kit came from Moss.  Also the T5 is not an
>> 'accepted' gearbox swap for the Sprite/Midget as it requires a lot of
>> cutting  and
>> welding of the transmission tunnell to get it to fit.
>>
>> I'm only aware of one car with a T5 kit in it but would be
>> interested to
>> hear of others.
>>
>> Weslake-Monza 1330
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 03/09/2009 18:03:22 GMT Daylight Time,
>> nsliwinski at hotmail.com writes:
>>
>> Hello  All.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone info (year, model # etc) on which tranny is  compatible
>> with a
>> 1275
>> engine? I know Moss sells the whole schabang, but  who does the
>> actual
>> manufacturing of the adapter plate etc. I know Kennedy  Engrg in CA
>> does
>> that
>> kind of work for all kind of transmission/engine  configurations
>> but not
>> for a
>> 1275 engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> '73 MG  Midget
>>
>> Norbert
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Sep  4 21:47:27 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 23:47:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.
Message-ID: <57076103AB18484EA8BF9641D74C450B@blackbox2>

I guess it was inevitable.  My Pertronix failed.

But I figured out how it failed and I have a workaround.

Let me first explain the symptoms.  
I converted my Bugeye to an alternator several years ago.  In doing this I had to transfer the guts of an
electric tach into the origianl Bugeye mechanical tach.  This all worked fine, even with the Pertronix.

In the course of getting my car back on the road recently I've been experiencing some hesitation issues.
In addition, the electric tach stopped working.  It was intermitent at first then quit completely.

While troubleshooting the hesitation, I decided to disconnect the electric tach wire from the coil so 
as to eliminate it from the equation.

After doing so the car would not start.  Very strange.  Disconnecting the tach wire should not have killed things.

Here is what happened.  The condensor inside the Pertronix module failed.  The input capacitance of the line into the tach
is what was allowing my car to run.  Disconnecting that wire, no more capacitance and no spark.

The tach died because the lack of a real condensor caused a high flyback voltage to the tach input.
I'll have to pull the tach out and see if I can fix it.

To get the Pertronix working again, I just connected a 0.22uf 250v capacitor from the negative lead of the coil to chassis ground.

I'm not sure this is how other Pertronix units have failed but anyone else who has a failed Pertronix might want to try this fix.

What killed the capacitor inside the Pertronix?  Not sure.  I carefully photographed all my wires before I disassembled things 
last year and used these as a guide for reassembly.  I think it was just age that killed it.

My hesitation issue turned out to be carb related.   

I will drive the car with this fix until I finish building this unit:  http://www.molla.org/DIY-CDI/SC-DIY-CDI-article-hires.pdf

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep  5 05:04:57 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:04:57 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV7C498D2136D61B63ACF4DC8ED0@phx.gbl>

Early P-51s had Allisons
Later (Most) had the Merlins

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: derf
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:51 PM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC

The P-51 has the Merlin, right?
There are some signature sounds that just have no equal.
The P-51 Mustang is one.
The M2 .50 machine gun is another.
They both sound like power.
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep  5 06:28:18 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 05:28:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.
In-Reply-To: <57076103AB18484EA8BF9641D74C450B@blackbox2>
References: <57076103AB18484EA8BF9641D74C450B@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <AE4DEE78A4354E0D916DAECF43C4C17B@spider>

Capacitors (condensers) do get old and die, as do semiconductors (diodes and
transistors.) Resistors usually don't, but can get friend by too much
voltage or amperage which heats them and causes the resistance binding
material to crack. ...bill in oregon
===================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:47 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.

I guess it was inevitable.  My Pertronix failed.

But I figured out how it failed and I have a workaround.

Let me first explain the symptoms.  
I converted my Bugeye to an alternator several years ago.  In doing this I
had to transfer the guts of an
electric tach into the origianl Bugeye mechanical tach.  This all worked
fine, even with the Pertronix.

In the course of getting my car back on the road recently I've been
experiencing some hesitation issues.
In addition, the electric tach stopped working.  It was intermitent at first
then quit completely.

While troubleshooting the hesitation, I decided to disconnect the electric
tach wire from the coil so 
as to eliminate it from the equation.

After doing so the car would not start.  Very strange.  Disconnecting the
tach wire should not have killed things.

Here is what happened.  The condensor inside the Pertronix module failed.
The input capacitance of the line into the tach
is what was allowing my car to run.  Disconnecting that wire, no more
capacitance and no spark.

The tach died because the lack of a real condensor caused a high flyback
voltage to the tach input.
I'll have to pull the tach out and see if I can fix it.

To get the Pertronix working again, I just connected a 0.22uf 250v capacitor
from the negative lead of the coil to chassis ground.

I'm not sure this is how other Pertronix units have failed but anyone else
who has a failed Pertronix might want to try this fix.

What killed the capacitor inside the Pertronix?  Not sure.  I carefully
photographed all my wires before I disassembled things 
last year and used these as a guide for reassembly.  I think it was just age
that killed it.

My hesitation issue turned out to be carb related.   

I will drive the car with this fix until I finish building this unit:
http://www.molla.org/DIY-CDI/SC-DIY-CDI-article-hires.pdf
_______________________________________________

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Sat Sep  5 08:02:22 2009
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim  F.)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:02:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel removal
References: <DF3D671A-93B4-4765-846C-17FD064AE726@verizon.net>
	<4333f8140909021638v58da847eide61bb4e0d815461@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <13BCCCF913154BA396DED437000B917B@MAINCOMPUTER>

I second that , Hal's puller worked like a charm, Ande I'm using "NeverSieze 
to reinstall

Jim F.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Faulkner" <frog.aye at gmail.com>
To: "Phil Nase" <nases at verizon.net>
Cc: "spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] steering wheel removal


> Phil,
> Talk to Linda and Jim F about my handy gear puller modification. 
> Basically
> it is a 4"x4"x.25" steel plate drilled and slotted to slip behind the
> wheel.  Bolt holes drilled to line up with your puller.  Because it is a
> plate it pulls the  wheel around almost all of its circumference thus
> avoiding high stress areas.  It worked like a charm for me and Jim.  Lin 
> had
> to modify it a bit to fit it between the cowl and the steering wheel, but
> from the sounds of things it looks like it worked for her also...
> Hal
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Is there anything I can do before I reinstall the steering wheel to make
>> the next removal any easier?
>>
>> I already greased the splines and cone of column.  Every time I pull it
>> it's really a struggle.
>>
>> I used a jaw puller that I ground down to fit behind the stock wheel but 
>> it
>> still deforms the stock wheel when I do it.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Phil Nase
>> Quakertown, PA
>> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/<http://home.comcast.net/%7Ephilnasecpa/>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 10:24:15 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:24:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV7C498D2136D61B63ACF4DC8ED0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV7C498D2136D61B63ACF4DC8ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909050924h3807922fh8fa84e0769ba58b1@mail.gmail.com>

Correct Cap'n! Moreover the early P51s also had a greenhouse canopy. It is
noteworthy that the Brits are the folks who married the P51 airframe with
their RR Merlin, not us.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>wrote:

> Early P-51s had Allisons
> Later (Most) had the Merlins
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: derf
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:51 PM
> To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
>
> The P-51 has the Merlin, right?
> There are some signature sounds that just have no equal.
> The P-51 Mustang is one.
> The M2 .50 machine gun is another.
> They both sound like power.
> You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 10:29:52 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 09:29:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk2 Sprite with wires?
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0909050929u6bc24cfflc14f5c320e8b3835@mail.gmail.com>

Was it an option to have wire wheels on a Mk 2 Sprite?
I've got a parts car Mk 1 Midget with wires, how difficult is it to do the
swap?

Rick Bastedo

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep  5 11:17:28 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 10:17:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk2 Sprite with wires?
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0909050929u6bc24cfflc14f5c320e8b3835@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0909050929u6bc24cfflc14f5c320e8b3835@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W23592AFFBB220AC605D5A9CAED0@phx.gbl>

I think the answers are:
Yes
Not tough at all
Bill

> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 09:29:52 -0700
> From: rbastedo at gmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Mk2 Sprite with wires?
>
> Was it an option to have wire wheels on a Mk 2 Sprite?
> I've got a parts car Mk 1 Midget with wires, how difficult is it to do the
> swap?
>
> Rick Bastedo
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 11:22:41 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:22:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk2 Sprite with wires?
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0909050929u6bc24cfflc14f5c320e8b3835@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0909050929u6bc24cfflc14f5c320e8b3835@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA29E61.1010306@comcast.net>

Rick Bastedo wrote:
> Was it an option to have wire wheels on a Mk 2 Sprite?
> I've got a parts car Mk 1 Midget with wires, how difficult is it to do the
> swap?
>
>   
It is a direct swap but you will have to swap the whole rear axle assembly.

-- 
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Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 12:26:59 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 11:26:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk2 Sprite with wires?
In-Reply-To: <4AA29E61.1010306@comcast.net>
References: <fbc9308f0909050929u6bc24cfflc14f5c320e8b3835@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AA29E61.1010306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0909051126n23e255c6q11749fdb7c681e18@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe I should start spraying some things with PB Blaster...
In a month or two I might be able to get some of that stuff loosened up!!
8-)


On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Rick Bastedo wrote:
>
>> Was it an option to have wire wheels on a Mk 2 Sprite?
>> I've got a parts car Mk 1 Midget with wires, how difficult is it to do the
>> swap?
>>
>>
>>
> It is a direct swap but you will have to swap the whole rear axle assembly.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep  5 12:50:19 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 11:50:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk2 Sprite with wires?
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0909051126n23e255c6q11749fdb7c681e18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0909050929u6bc24cfflc14f5c320e8b3835@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4AA29E61.1010306@comcast.net>,
	<fbc9308f0909051126n23e255c6q11749fdb7c681e18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA2B2EB.19579.E24E04@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Can't you leave the diff and casing in place and just swap out the 
side shafts??
Just curious....

On 5 Sep 2009 at 11:26, Rick Bastedo wrote:

>> > It is a direct swap but you will have to swap the whole rear axle
>> > assembly.


--
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'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep  5 13:52:40 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 15:52:40 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk2 Sprite with wires?
Message-ID: <cc4.57a7d19e.37d41b88@aol.com>

Wire wheel axle casings are a different width to steel wheel axle  casings.
 
In a message dated 05/09/2009 19:50:25 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at verizon.net 
 writes:

Can't  you leave the diff and casing in place and just swap out the 
side  shafts??
Just curious....

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep  5 13:59:18 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:59:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk2 Sprite with wires?
In-Reply-To: <cc4.57a7d19e.37d41b88@aol.com>
References: <cc4.57a7d19e.37d41b88@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4AA2C316.24526.1217775@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Thank you.... and now I know, always nice to learn something    ;-))


On 5 Sep 2009 at 15:52, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>> Wire wheel axle casings are a different width to steel wheel axle
>> casings.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep  5 14:45:39 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:45:39 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV78E8F98EA39E9123F11CCC8ED0@phx.gbl>

......and t'was a great marriage at that, eh?! :)

The Brits were also the ones who got our
Corsairs successfully working off of aircraft carriers. Smart, resourceful people!! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 12:24 PM
To: Robert E. Shlafer
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC

Correct Cap'n! Moreover the early P51s also had a greenhouse canopy. It is
noteworthy that the Brits are the folks who married the P51 airframe with
their RR Merlin, not us.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>wrote:

> Early P-51s had Allisons
> Later (Most) had the Merlins
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: derf
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:51 PM
> To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
>
> The P-51 has the Merlin, right?
> There are some signature sounds that just have no equal.
> The P-51 Mustang is one.
> The M2 .50 machine gun is another.
> They both sound like power.
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep  5 14:47:59 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:47:59 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV8F8B2C6C76F49CEF94F85C8ED0@phx.gbl>

You mean....nothing lasts forever?? 

That's it....I want my money back. :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 8:28 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.

Capacitors (condensers) do get old and die, as do semiconductors (diodes and
transistors.) Resistors usually don't, but can get friend by too much
voltage or amperage which heats them and causes the resistance binding
material to crack. ...bill in oregon
===================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:47 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.

I guess it was inevitable.  My Pertronix failed.

But I figured out how it failed and I have a workaround.

Let me first explain the symptoms.  
I converted my Bugeye to an alternator several years ago.  In doing this I
had to transfer the guts of an
electric tach into the origianl Bugeye mechanical tach.  This all worked
fine, even with the Pertronix.

In the course of getting my car back on the road recently I've been
experiencing some hesitation issues.
In addition, the electric tach stopped working.  It was intermitent at first
then quit completely.

While troubleshooting the hesitation, I decided to disconnect the electric
tach wire from the coil so 
as to eliminate it from the equation.

After doing so the car would not start.  Very strange.  Disconnecting the
tach wire should not have killed things.

Here is what happened.  The condensor inside the Pertronix module failed.
The input capacitance of the line into the tach
is what was allowing my car to run.  Disconnecting that wire, no more
capacitance and no spark.

The tach died because the lack of a real condensor caused a high flyback
voltage to the tach input.
I'll have to pull the tach out and see if I can fix it.

To get the Pertronix working again, I just connected a 0.22uf 250v capacitor
from the negative lead of the coil to chassis ground.

I'm not sure this is how other Pertronix units have failed but anyone else
who has a failed Pertronix might want to try this fix.

What killed the capacitor inside the Pertronix?  Not sure.  I carefully
photographed all my wires before I disassembled things 
last year and used these as a guide for reassembly.  I think it was just age
that killed it.

My hesitation issue turned out to be carb related.   

I will drive the car with this fix until I finish building this unit:
http://www.molla.org/DIY-CDI/SC-DIY-CDI-article-hires.pdf
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From conen at bellsouth.net  Sat Sep  5 14:51:11 2009
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 13:51:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
Message-ID: <802875.10538.qm@web180215.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per Cap'n Bob...
>>Early P-51s had Allisons
>>Later (Most) had the Merlins

  Interestingly, some late P-40s also had Merlins! :-)

  I remember many years ago, in the ads in the back of Autoweek, seeing a matched pair of counter-rotating Allisons, for a P-38, advertised New In Box for $25,000. :-)
 Ed in NC

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep  5 14:57:39 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 20:57:39 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV4B4A912B95748F1754BACC8ED0@phx.gbl>

"some later P-40's had Merlins"

Hi, Ed....yes, yes....

something I was unaware of until I saw the latest P-4o "Great Airplanes" doc on the Military Channel a week or so ago.

I'd like to see the specs on that one cnsidering the Allison powered P-40's and P-51's limited both aircraft to low/med altitude performers and we know the huge
improvement the Merlin made in the case of the P-51. I assume pretty much the same for the P-40.

I will google the P-40 Warhawk and see what comes up.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 15:21:47 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:21:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV4B4A912B95748F1754BACC8ED0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV4B4A912B95748F1754BACC8ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909051421j8e53a4br228f5060d9529985@mail.gmail.com>

My understanding is that the biggest problem with the Allison power plants
in the Mustang was the lack of a two stage supercharger. The P-38 versions
with the V-1710 Allison had two stage superchargers giving the P-38 a
service ceiling of over FL400 if I recall. This power plant also appeared in
a few of the last P-40s made.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>wrote:

> "some later P-40's had Merlins"
>
> Hi, Ed....yes, yes....
>
> something I was unaware of until I saw the latest P-4o "Great Airplanes"
> doc on the Military Channel a week or so ago.
>
> I'd like to see the specs on that one cnsidering the Allison powered P-40's
> and P-51's limited both aircraft to low/med altitude performers and we know
> the huge
> improvement the Merlin made in the case of the P-51. I assume pretty much
> the same for the P-40.
>
> I will google the P-40 Warhawk and see what comes up.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From herby at herbytoys.com  Sat Sep  5 15:29:55 2009
From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:29:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV4B4A912B95748F1754BACC8ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <72ED0CE53B994EE1AAF9BC4A77C1CDA7@HERBYZ>

I totally forgot about this picture.
http://www.herbytoys.com/Vaca_Images/FOFWallOEngines.jpg

It was taken inside one of Kermit Weeks' numerous warehouses at Fantasy of
Flight. 

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
herby at herbytoys.com
www.herbytoys.com

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep  5 15:53:14 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:53:14 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV97C391E00B2588511601FC8ED0@phx.gbl>

They abound!!! :):)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Herby
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 5:29 PM
To: 'Spridgets List'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC

I totally forgot about this picture.
http://www.herbytoys.com/Vaca_Images/FOFWallOEngines.jpg

It was taken inside one of Kermit Weeks' numerous warehouses at Fantasy of
Flight. 

Herby
63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale)
62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver)
00 Dakota R/T (the new toy)
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep  5 16:01:16 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:01:16 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV5F55A8762E73156933299C8ED0@phx.gbl>

Exactomunderino, Jim...

..............from what I've googled
thus far. but the P-38's as I recall were turbocharged....and they had problems with those blowers 'til they got an oiling
problem worked out as I recall??

The later 1260 HP (single-stage blower?) Allison was almost as powerful as the the US Packard-built Merlin and used in later 
P-40's, "our" Merlins later evidently going specifically to the Mustangs considering their mission requirements escorting bombers into/over Germany flying in the
mid-20 altitudes where that second stage
blower in the Merlin really counted.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 5:21 PM
Cc: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC

My understanding is that the biggest problem with the Allison power plants
in the Mustang was the lack of a two stage supercharger. The P-38 versions
with the V-1710 Allison had two stage superchargers giving the P-38 a
service ceiling of over FL400 if I recall. This power plant also appeared in
a few of the last P-40s made.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>wrote:

> "some later P-40's had Merlins"
>
> Hi, Ed....yes, yes....
>
> something I was unaware of until I saw the latest P-4o "Great Airplanes"
> doc on the Military Channel a week or so ago.
>
> I'd like to see the specs on that one cnsidering the Allison powered P-40's
> and P-51's limited both aircraft to low/med altitude performers and we know
> the huge
> improvement the Merlin made in the case of the P-51. I assume pretty much
> the same for the P-40.
>
> I will google the P-40 Warhawk and see what comes up.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Sat Sep  5 16:13:09 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 15:13:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV5F55A8762E73156933299C8ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <323786.69181.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Any of you guys know anything about aircraft gunners or missiles? If so, maybe
you could fire one into the side of this thread.

TIA, (and yes I do have a delete key, but I just couldn't resist.)

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Sat, 9/5/09, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net> wrote:

From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 6:01 PM

Exactomunderino, Jim...

..............from what I've googled
thus far. but the P-38's as I recall were turbocharged....and they had
problems with those blowers 'til they got an oiling
problem worked out as I recall??

The later 1260 HP (single-stage blower?) Allison was almost as powerful as the
the US Packard-built Merlin and used in later
P-40's, "our" Merlins later evidently going specifically to the Mustangs
considering their mission requirements escorting bombers into/over Germany
flying in the
mid-20 altitudes where that second stage
blower in the Merlin really counted.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Johnson
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 5:21 PM
Cc: Spridgets List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC

My understanding is that the biggest problem with the Allison power plants
in the Mustang was the lack of a two stage supercharger. The P-38 versions
with the V-1710 Allison had two stage superchargers giving the P-38 a
service ceiling of over FL400 if I recall. This power plant also appeared in
a few of the last P-40s made.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>wrote:

> "some later P-40's had Merlins"
>
> Hi, Ed....yes, yes....
>
> something I was unaware of until I saw the latest P-4o "Great Airplanes"
> doc on the Military Channel a week or so ago.
>
> I'd like to see the specs on that one cnsidering the Allison powered P-40's
> and P-51's limited both aircraft to low/med altitude performers and we know
> the huge
> improvement the Merlin made in the case of the P-51. I assume pretty much
> the same for the P-40.
>
> I will google the P-40 Warhawk and see what comes up.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 16:26:05 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:26:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <323786.69181.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY118-DAV5F55A8762E73156933299C8ED0@phx.gbl>
	<323786.69181.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909051526u5f6c270au4713cb0467553f22@mail.gmail.com>

> Any of you guys know anything about aircraft gunners or missiles? If so, maybe
> you could fire one into the side of this thread.

But just think of all the civilian casualties!!!
ED

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep  5 16:36:50 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:36:50 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV10D6B9331D6933345381F1C8ED0@phx.gbl>

LOL.... :)

like the list is buzzin' with Spridget talk at this point in time. :)

Lookin' for an MX-5, Dave!! Neato car!! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 6:26 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC

> Any of you guys know anything about aircraft gunners or missiles? If so, maybe
> you could fire one into the side of this thread.

But just think of all the civilian casualties!!!
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 18:41:41 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 20:41:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.
References: <57076103AB18484EA8BF9641D74C450B@blackbox2>
	<AE4DEE78A4354E0D916DAECF43C4C17B@spider>
Message-ID: <D8F2121872F8475DAF11DF991F9CD8C6@blackbox2>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>


> Capacitors (condensers) do get old and die, as do semiconductors (diodes and
> transistors.) Resistors usually don't, but can get friend by too much
> voltage or amperage which heats them and causes the resistance binding
> material to crack. ...bill in oregon


Yea, but it could also be the case that a substandard capacitor was used from the get go.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 19:32:13 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:32:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.
In-Reply-To: <D8F2121872F8475DAF11DF991F9CD8C6@blackbox2>
References: <57076103AB18484EA8BF9641D74C450B@blackbox2>
	<AE4DEE78A4354E0D916DAECF43C4C17B@spider>
	<D8F2121872F8475DAF11DF991F9CD8C6@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4AA3111D.3050602@comcast.net>

Dean Hedin wrote:
>
>
> Yea, but it could also be the case that a substandard capacitor was 
> used from the get go.
Nah, why would any body do that?
Sort of like the 5 cent terminal on my kids air cond compressor that 
rusted away in 3 years.
After some serious talk with the CEO of the company, he has a new 
compressor and the new one does NOT have the 5 cent chinese spade connector.
I asked the head honcho how many compressors his company had to replace 
because they saved 3 cents on little part?
He knew exactly what I was talking about too.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 19:34:07 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:34:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV8F8B2C6C76F49CEF94F85C8ED0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV8F8B2C6C76F49CEF94F85C8ED0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4AA3118F.30302@comcast.net>

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
> You mean....nothing lasts forever?? 
>
>   
Yes, all the packaging holding all the cheap stuff lasts forever.
I have all kinds of "the box it came in" for a whole day, week, 
sometimes even a month after the part failed.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 20:43:45 2009
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:43:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rev Limiter
Message-ID: <8c1781040909051943x2e69a24akd8365e8bc4ce1af7@mail.gmail.com>

OK, I need a rev limiter for my Sprite because my new engine revs up a
little too freely for me to keep it out of the danger zone.  I'm not
really interested in multi-spark boxes.  I just want something small,
proven, affordable that won't quickly foul plugs.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Trevor

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Sep  5 21:24:48 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 23:24:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rev Limiter
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040909051943x2e69a24akd8365e8bc4ce1af7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8c1781040909051943x2e69a24akd8365e8bc4ce1af7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA32B80.40908@comcast.net>

Trevor Jessie wrote:
> OK, I need a rev limiter for my Sprite because my new engine revs up a
> little too freely for me to keep it out of the danger zone.  I'm not
> really interested in multi-spark boxes.  I just want something small,
> proven, affordable that won't quickly foul plugs.  Any suggestions?
>   

Peter C has (had) Lucas rev limiting rotors that fit our dizzys.
He showed me one a couple years ago.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep  5 22:47:35 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 21:47:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thoughts for the weekend... No LBC today..
Message-ID: <4AA33EE7.30310.2C9157@kk7ss.verizon.net>

There are two theories about arguing with women ~
neither one works !

It must have taken a lot of courage to discover that frog
legs are edible.

Never be discouraged. Remember, Noah was an
amateur. Experts built the Titanic.

and lastly,

If at first you don't succeed, destroy all the evidence that
shows you ever tried.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From conen at bellsouth.net  Sat Sep  5 23:41:45 2009
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 22:41:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Aviation piston engine question - No LBC
Message-ID: <102354.53255.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per Jay...
>>...If so, maybe you could fire one into the side of this thread.

  Aren't you the one who doesn't like the word 'thread'? :-) :-) :-)
 Ed in NC

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep  5 23:47:56 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 22:47:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGV question
Message-ID: <4AA34D0C.28878.63D4EC@kk7ss.verizon.net>

The set-up is a '76 1500 Midget with a 32/36 DGV ( manual choke)...
The Usual starting routine - ignition on, fuel pump running, bit of 
choke..

My question is, assuming the DGV has an enrichment pump, should I 
press and relelase the gas pedal prior to or while cranking the 
engine??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun Sep  6 01:35:18 2009
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 00:35:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGV question
Message-ID: <609701ca2ec4$94ed2e40$116a010a@mail2world.com>

On most carbureted cars I have driven in the past, the press and release
on the gas pedal was to release the choke cam to close the automatic
choke.
 
Since you have a manual choke, and no trouble starting, I'd say it's
unnecessary.
 
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Dave G. [kk7ss at verizon.net]
Sent: 9/6/2009 1:49:56 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGV question 

The set-up is a '76 1500 Midget with a 32/36 DGV ( manual choke)... 
The Usual starting routine - ignition on, fuel pump running, bit of 
choke.. 

My question is, assuming the DGV has an enrichment pump, should I 
press and relelase the gas pedal prior to or while cranking the 
engine?? 

-- 
Dave G. KK7SS Richland, WA 
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid 
'65 MK III A-H Sprite 
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget 

Age is just another number... ! 
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Sep  6 05:56:26 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 07:56:26 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DGV question
Message-ID: <c83.45c663c5.37d4fd6a@aol.com>

In a message dated 06/09/2009 06:49:55 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at verizon.net 
 writes:
If you have a routine that works stay with it.  

The  set-up is a '76 1500 Midget with a 32/36 DGV ( manual choke)...
The Usual  starting routine - ignition on, fuel pump running, bit of  
choke..

My question is, assuming the DGV has an enrichment pump,  should I 
press and relelase the gas pedal prior to or while cranking the  
engine??

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep  6 08:42:33 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:42:33 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3FEFF09EA91FD254E0E7EC8EC0@phx.gbl>

Nah....

PerTronix is not made in India, China or Japanland...at least not yet!! :)

It is not in PerTronix' best interests to shoot itself in the foot with cheap makings
considering they've pleny of competition
out there.

Initially, like some other new concepts/items PerTronix had their teething problems. 

'Adjustments' were made accordingly and I found their subsequent system reliable/
dependable as the Crane units i used previously, and they were excellent.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Frank
Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 9:34 PM
To: Robert E. Shlafer
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pertronix failure now understood.

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
> You mean....nothing lasts forever?? 
>
>   
Yes, all the packaging holding all the cheap stuff lasts forever.
I have all kinds of "the box it came in" for a whole day, week, 
sometimes even a month after the part failed.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net

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From cooper6 at swbell.net  Mon Sep  7 08:30:52 2009
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:30:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] test
Message-ID: <1DEA7CCD6CE74D318F0E079D994FEDDB@cooper>

E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447)
Database version: 6.13200
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 08:40:03 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:40:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] test
In-Reply-To: <1DEA7CCD6CE74D318F0E079D994FEDDB@cooper>
References: <1DEA7CCD6CE74D318F0E079D994FEDDB@cooper>
Message-ID: <402188520909070740p65f9ba26icbd0c3ebf6824a1@mail.gmail.com>

C-

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Mon Sep  7 09:49:56 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 08:49:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] test
References: <1DEA7CCD6CE74D318F0E079D994FEDDB@cooper>
Message-ID: <004901ca2fd2$da6e9bc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Poor!

No Message except the message about the message.  Still messageless!

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From: "Martin" <cooper6 at swbell.net>
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 7:30 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] test


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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Sep  7 09:59:15 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:59:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] test
In-Reply-To: <004901ca2fd2$da6e9bc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <1DEA7CCD6CE74D318F0E079D994FEDDB@cooper>,
	<004901ca2fd2$da6e9bc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <4AA52DD3.24523.9223F6@kk7ss.verizon.net>

"It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps 
there is a key."   W.S.C.


On 7 Sep 2009 at 8:49, Paul Asgeirsson wrote:

>> No Message except the message about the message.  Still messageless!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 10:08:05 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:08:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
Message-ID: <402188520909070908j2362fab0vf115733dd0403fae@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, John Doe (-X-) is supposed to be on NPR today (at least here in
Chicago) talking about country music. Still seems a trifle bizarre...
David L

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep  7 10:44:00 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:44:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] test
In-Reply-To: <4AA52DD3.24523.9223F6@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <1DEA7CCD6CE74D318F0E079D994FEDDB@cooper>,
	<004901ca2fd2$da6e9bc0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<4AA52DD3.24523.9223F6@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BD6DCE4F76BB48F58FF575E905281340@spider>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_code

=================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:59 AM
To: sPRIDGETS
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] test

"It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps 
there is a key."   W.S.C.


On 7 Sep 2009 at 8:49, Paul Asgeirsson wrote:

>> No Message except the message about the message.  Still messageless!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !
_______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  7 11:12:24 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:12:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <402188520909070908j2362fab0vf115733dd0403fae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6CA8D08.2089B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> seems a trifle bizarre.
I agree. He knows nothing about Country music.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 11:20:31 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:20:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <C6CA8D08.2089B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <402188520909070908j2362fab0vf115733dd0403fae@mail.gmail.com>
	<C6CA8D08.2089B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909071020r17c67473g42734ed13acb95f1@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Billy Zoom<billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
>> seems a trifle bizarre.
> I agree. He knows nothing about Country music.

You say that as if it is a bad thing?
David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Sep  7 11:21:15 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:21:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] test
In-Reply-To: <BD6DCE4F76BB48F58FF575E905281340@spider>
References: <1DEA7CCD6CE74D318F0E079D994FEDDB@cooper>,
	<4AA52DD3.24523.9223F6@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<BD6DCE4F76BB48F58FF575E905281340@spider>
Message-ID: <4AA5410B.19558.DD3749@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Churchill (W.S.C.) was referring to Russia  when he said this.... 
I've always thought it interesting that the word 'Enigma' originally 
was a Ancient Greek word for a canine tooth disease...

Amazing how word usage changes....  
 
On 7 Sep 2009 at 9:44, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enigma_code
>> =================================
>> -----Original Message-----

>> "It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps
>> there is a key."   W.S.C.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Sep  7 11:22:16 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 10:22:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] test... Oops
Message-ID: <4AA54148.6493.DE24D2@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Sorry folks... didn't mean to bomb the list...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 11:43:47 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:43:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <402188520909070908j2362fab0vf115733dd0403fae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909070908j2362fab0vf115733dd0403fae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909071043s4c0e186dh4db68d01bb34b3d2@mail.gmail.com>

I give (just ignorant), who is John Doe???Herb

From jfishbein at snet.net  Mon Sep  7 11:57:06 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 10:57:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909071043s4c0e186dh4db68d01bb34b3d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87135.63002.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

xcellent question.

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

From: WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 1:43 PM

I give (just ignorant), who is John Doe???Herb

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 12:02:22 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 13:02:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909071043s4c0e186dh4db68d01bb34b3d2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909070908j2362fab0vf115733dd0403fae@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909071043s4c0e186dh4db68d01bb34b3d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090909071102x159b9120u1d89cfbf927c7297@mail.gmail.com>

he is a member of the band that Billy is in.

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 12:43 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I give (just ignorant), who is John Doe???Herb
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep  7 12:23:29 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:23:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909071043s4c0e186dh4db68d01bb34b3d2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <722327.73039.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 9/7/09, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I give (just ignorant), who is John
> Doe???Herb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQuLqwz-C-4

Zoom = guitar, John is the singer and bassist. 

Ron

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  7 12:31:59 2009
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:31:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1252346402.17491.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.13.1252346402.17491.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4AA5519F.6040104@sbcglobal.net>

Here you go.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112620882


Message: 5
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:08:05 -0500
From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID:
	<402188520909070908j2362fab0vf115733dd0403fae at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hey, John Doe (-X-) is supposed to be on NPR today (at least here in
Chicago) talking about country music. Still seems a trifle bizarre...
David L


-----------------------------

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 13:33:53 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 12:33:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <4AA5519F.6040104@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.13.1252346402.17491.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4AA5519F.6040104@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909071233j450cb5fydf2b522d7185da11@mail.gmail.com>

Wait!!  Wait!!    Was that Jay Fishbein who commented on this NO LBC thread
or did someone hijack his email account?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Lee Fox <lee.fox at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Here you go.
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112620882
>
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 11:08:05 -0500
> From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
> To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Message-ID:
>        <402188520909070908j2362fab0vf115733dd0403fae at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hey, John Doe (-X-) is supposed to be on NPR today (at least here in
> Chicago) talking about country music. Still seems a trifle bizarre...
> David L
>
>
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sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  7 13:48:49 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:48:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <722327.73039.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <722327.73039.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A36EA959B1D04D69A7CF5E132819BE3E@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:23 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)

> --- On Mon, 9/7/09, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I give (just ignorant), who is John
>> Doe???Herb
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQuLqwz-C-4
> 
> Zoom = guitar, John is the singer and bassist. 
> 
> Ron
> _______________________________________________

John reminds me of that sticky-fingered bartender in Road House.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  7 15:09:06 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 14:09:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <A36EA959B1D04D69A7CF5E132819BE3E@HomePC>
Message-ID: <C6CAC482.184A7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> John reminds me of that sticky-fingered bartender in Road House.
That's one of my favorite JD performances...he gets killed.

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Mon Sep  7 15:30:36 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:30:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
Message-ID: <403681244-1252359012-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1563869440-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

With the help of a friend, the engine and gearbox came out today.  A few steps were unnecessary, probably for other models.  Our main problem came with low ceiling height limiting the hoist and needing the car on stands because the hoist was too wide and tall to fit under the wheels and suspension.

I am wondering if anyone else has cable running from the right bottom bellhousing to the chassis near the transmission mount?  I assume it is a torque limiting device, but I did not find it in the books while we were working.

Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep  7 15:39:46 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:39:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <C6CAC482.184A7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
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That would have been the bad guy's sister's kid; I don't think he got
killed. The hero's old motorcycle buddy gets knifed.   ...bill in oregon
=========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 2:09 PM
To: Larry Daniels; Ron Soave; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)

> John reminds me of that sticky-fingered bartender in Road House.
That's one of my favorite JD performances...he gets killed.
_______________________________________________

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  7 15:53:25 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:53:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
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No wonder he reminded me of the bartender.  ;-)

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 4:09 PM
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "Ron Soave" 
<soavero at yahoo.com>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)

>> John reminds me of that sticky-fingered bartender in Road House.
> That's one of my favorite JD performances...he gets killed.

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Mon Sep  7 15:55:03 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:55:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
References: <403681244-1252359012-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1563869440-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <003501ca3005$dbf1b120$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Congratulations!

Cable is likely the ground strap.

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <andrewpayne at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 2:30 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!


> With the help of a friend, the engine and gearbox came out today.  A few
steps were unnecessary, probably for other models.  Our main problem came
with low ceiling height limiting the hoist and needing the car on stands
because the hoist was too wide and tall to fit under the wheels and
suspension.
>
> I am wondering if anyone else has cable running from the right bottom
bellhousing to the chassis near the transmission mount?  I assume it is a
torque limiting device, but I did not find it in the books while we were
working.
>
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  7 15:58:39 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 16:58:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <D5184957D421498081817937392EA95A@spider>
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Yeah, he got killed -- had a knife thrown at him.

Good movie-- Jeff Healey's music (LBC content in name only), lots of bad 
guys getting offed and Kelly Lynch naked.  Can't beat that with a stick.



--------------------------------------------------
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 4:39 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)

> That would have been the bad guy's sister's kid; I don't think he got
> killed. The hero's old motorcycle buddy gets knifed.   ...bill in oregon
> =========================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 2:09 PM
> To: Larry Daniels; Ron Soave; Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
>
>> John reminds me of that sticky-fingered bartender in Road House.
> That's one of my favorite JD performances...he gets killed.
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep  7 16:14:00 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:14:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
In-Reply-To: <403681244-1252359012-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1563869440-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <403681244-1252359012-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1563869440-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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andrewpayne at intrex.net wrote:
> With the help of a friend, the engine and gearbox came out today.  A few steps were unnecessary, probably for other models.  Our main problem came with low ceiling height limiting the hoist and needing the car on stands because the hoist was too wide and tall to fit under the wheels and suspension.
>
> I am wondering if anyone else has cable running from the right bottom bellhousing to the chassis near the transmission mount?  I assume it is a torque limiting device, but I did not find it in the books while we were working.
>
>   
That cable is on 74 models, it is supposed to keep the engine/trans with 
the car in case of a severe accident.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From conen at bellsouth.net  Mon Sep  7 16:37:53 2009
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 15:37:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] test
Message-ID: <130796.99297.qm@web180212.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

>Churchill (W.S.C.) was referring to Russia  when he said this.... 
I've always thought it interesting that the word 'Enigma' originally 
was a Ancient Greek word for a canine tooth disease...

  Considering how things were at the time he said that, Mr. Churchill may have known exactly what he was saying. ;-) :-) :-) 
  Ed in NC

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  7 16:50:08 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:50:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <D5184957D421498081817937392EA95A@spider>
Message-ID: <C6CADC30.208B9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I don't think he got
> killed. 
Trust me...I could never forget Doe getting killed.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  7 16:51:44 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:51:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
In-Reply-To: <4AA585A8.5060908@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C6CADC90.208BA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> That cable is on 74 models, it is supposed to keep the engine/trans with
> the car in case of a severe accident.
To protect the drive train?

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Mon Sep  7 17:28:47 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 23:28:47 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
Message-ID: <1580884464-1252366103-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1783813816-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Found the ground strap, it goes to the front.  This is a cable under slight tension. It is retained, but can twist at the engine but screws into the body then has a jamb nut.  I'm sure that it does ground, but pretty sure that it's not the purpose.

Drew
------Original Message------
From: Paul Asgeirsson
To: Andrew G. Payne
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine out!
Sent: Sep 7, 2009 5:55 PM

Congratulations!

Cable is likely the ground strap.

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <andrewpayne at intrex.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 2:30 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!


> With the help of a friend, the engine and gearbox came out today.  A few
steps were unnecessary, probably for other models.  Our main problem came
with low ceiling height limiting the hoist and needing the car on stands
because the hoist was too wide and tall to fit under the wheels and
suspension.
>
> I am wondering if anyone else has cable running from the right bottom
bellhousing to the chassis near the transmission mount?  I assume it is a
torque limiting device, but I did not find it in the books while we were
working.
>
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Sep  7 17:54:46 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 23:54:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
In-Reply-To: <4AA585A8.5060908@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1737071891.4827861252367686701.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

its kinda scary to think that is likely enough to force the to "wire" them together. 
Ryan 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net> 
To: andrewpayne at intrex.net 
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 6:14:00 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine out! 

andrewpayne at intrex.net wrote: 
> With the help of a friend, the engine and gearbox came out today. A few steps were unnecessary, probably for other models. Our main problem came with low ceiling height limiting the hoist and needing the car on stands because the hoist was too wide and tall to fit under the wheels and suspension. 
> 
> I am wondering if anyone else has cable running from the right bottom bellhousing to the chassis near the transmission mount? I assume it is a torque limiting device, but I did not find it in the books while we were working. 
> 
> 
That cable is on 74 models, it is supposed to keep the engine/trans with 
the car in case of a severe accident. 

-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
My own Fleet of Sprites 
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 19:11:44 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:11:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <0A33352501794F049A9770EE0D768ECB@HomePC>
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WHAT...damn, I missed that part!  Must have been sleeping....

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Yeah, he got killed -- had a knife thrown at him.
>
> Good movie-- Jeff Healey's music (LBC content in name only), lots of bad
> guys getting offed and Kelly Lynch naked.  Can't beat that with a stick.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 19:19:31 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:19:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
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Wow....  Does that Billy Zoom fellow EVER look down at his guitar to see if
his fingers are there???  Besides that, he has a pleasant smile on his face
(all the time) like he really enjoys playing music.  What's up with that?
Only joking around BZ.  Personally speaking, you're a hell of a guitar
player.  Where did I go wrong....

Herb

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 19:21:23 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:21:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090909071102x159b9120u1d89cfbf927c7297@mail.gmail.com>
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Brad,

I'd need your Don Julio to make it through a concert...and ear plugs.

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Mon Sep  7 19:33:33 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:33:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
References: <1580884464-1252366103-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1783813816-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <005f01ca3024$825bf160$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Hi Andrew,

You're right, it is a "Retention" strap.  It shouldn't be to tight, just a
slight amount of play at it's end.

If it's tight, it will transmit some vibration to the car from the engine
and eventually break the device.  It's to keep the fan from interfering with
the radiator in the event of a panic stop.  At best, a safety device.  The
double nutting on it will keep it in the right place, ready to keep the
engine and trans from wanting to recore the radiator!

Later, Paul A


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <andrewpayne at intrex.net>
To: "Paul Asgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at att.net>; "Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine out!


> Found the ground strap, it goes to the front.  This is a cable under
slight tension. It is retained, but can twist at the engine but screws into
the body then has a jamb nut.  I'm sure that it does ground, but pretty sure
that it's not the purpose.
>
> Drew
> ------Original Message------
> From: Paul Asgeirsson
> To: Andrew G. Payne
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine out!
> Sent: Sep 7, 2009 5:55 PM
>
> Congratulations!
>
> Cable is likely the ground strap.
>
> Later, Paul A
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <andrewpayne at intrex.net>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 2:30 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
>
>
> > With the help of a friend, the engine and gearbox came out today.  A few
> steps were unnecessary, probably for other models.  Our main problem came
> with low ceiling height limiting the hoist and needing the car on stands
> because the hoist was too wide and tall to fit under the wheels and
> suspension.
> >
> > I am wondering if anyone else has cable running from the right bottom
> bellhousing to the chassis near the transmission mount?  I assume it is a
> torque limiting device, but I did not find it in the books while we were
> working.
> >
> > Drew
> > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  7 19:48:54 2009
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 20:48:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3660.1252372307.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.3660.1252372307.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4AA5B806.5030705@sbcglobal.net>

It was British Leyland's answer to US safety requirements.
As others have pointed out, it is to keep the engine and transmission 
from becoming a missile in case of an accident.
Most other cars are designed to keep the engine from encroaching into 
the passenger compartment in an accident and thus saving the lives of 
said passengers.
Gotta love that British sense of humour (sp)!

Message: 7
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:30:36 +0000
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID:
.......<
I am wondering if anyone else has cable running from the right bottom 
bellhousing to the chassis near the transmission mount?  I assume it is 
a torque limiting device, but I did not find it in the books while we 
were working.

Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  7 19:54:39 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:54:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909071819j1d071ee7x51edf07379178564@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6CB076F.208CB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  Does that Billy Zoom fellow EVER look down at his guitar to see if his
> fingers are there???
I've tried looking. It didn't help.

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Sep  7 19:56:56 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:56:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909071811w366926cerf777cec16cdad388@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A36EA959B1D04D69A7CF5E132819BE3E@HomePC><C6CAC482.184A7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><D5184957D421498081817937392EA95A@spider><0A33352501794F049A9770EE0D768ECB@HomePC>
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Message-ID: <78916EE79A0B46F795410E229D2D4908@BASEMENTDELL>

Nobody puts Baby in the corner.  Oh wait, wrong movie a year later....

Is it normal for us to get the Harley rider "down low, five fingers extended
but don't move the wrist" wave?  Buzzed around town today and got that from
a few different groups (Milwaukee Harley Rally this weekend)

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:12 PM
To: Larry Daniels
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)

WHAT...damn, I missed that part!  Must have been sleeping....

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> Yeah, he got killed -- had a knife thrown at him.
>
> Good movie-- Jeff Healey's music (LBC content in name only), lots of bad
> guys getting offed and Kelly Lynch naked.  Can't beat that with a stick.
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 19:59:40 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:59:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <78916EE79A0B46F795410E229D2D4908@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <A36EA959B1D04D69A7CF5E132819BE3E@HomePC>
	<C6CAC482.184A7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<D5184957D421498081817937392EA95A@spider>
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Hide, Chris.  They're coming after you....

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Chris Manuel <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:

> Nobody puts Baby in the corner.  Oh wait, wrong movie a year later....
>
> Is it normal for us to get the Harley rider "down low, five fingers
> extended
> but don't move the wrist" wave?  Buzzed around town today and got that from
> a few different groups (Milwaukee Harley Rally this weekend)
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 8:12 PM
> To: Larry Daniels
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
>
> WHAT...damn, I missed that part!  Must have been sleeping....
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Larry Daniels
> <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
> > Yeah, he got killed -- had a knife thrown at him.
> >
> > Good movie-- Jeff Healey's music (LBC content in name only), lots of bad
> > guys getting offed and Kelly Lynch naked.  Can't beat that with a stick.
> _______________________________

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 20:01:10 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:01:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <C6CB076F.208CB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10909071819j1d071ee7x51edf07379178564@mail.gmail.com>
	<C6CB076F.208CB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909071901k26bbf7f9h55348f658cd7daec@mail.gmail.com>

You and that 'Les' fellow....

>  Does that Billy Zoom fellow EVER look down at his guitar to see if his
> > fingers are there???
> I've tried looking. It didn't help.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  7 20:02:39 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:02:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909071901k26bbf7f9h55348f658cd7daec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6CB094F.208D3%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> You and that 'Les' fellow....
Yeah...looking at HIS fingers never helped me either.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep  7 20:07:42 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:07:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <78916EE79A0B46F795410E229D2D4908@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <A36EA959B1D04D69A7CF5E132819BE3E@HomePC><C6CAC482.184A7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><D5184957D421498081817937392EA95A@spider><0A33352501794F049A9770EE0D768ECB@HomePC><2ad6c6b10909071811w366926cerf777cec16cdad388@mail.gmail.com>
	<78916EE79A0B46F795410E229D2D4908@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <8CDCBFF307954DC5B734A36EFD5F476C@spider>

Sounds like a low-five to me; maybe Spridget drivers are close to the road
like Harley drivers. 
====================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Manuel
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:57 PM
To: 'WFO Herb'; 'Larry Daniels'
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)

Nobody puts Baby in the corner.  Oh wait, wrong movie a year later....

Is it normal for us to get the Harley rider "down low, five fingers extended
but don't move the wrist" wave?  Buzzed around town today and got that from
a few different groups (Milwaukee Harley Rally this weekend)

Chris

From sales at justbrits.com  Mon Sep  7 20:10:37 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:10:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <78916EE79A0B46F795410E229D2D4908@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <A36EA959B1D04D69A7CF5E132819BE3E@HomePC><C6CAC482.184A7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><D5184957D421498081817937392EA95A@spider><0A33352501794F049A9770EE0D768ECB@HomePC>
	<2ad6c6b10909071811w366926cerf777cec16cdad388@mail.gmail.com>
	<78916EE79A0B46F795410E229D2D4908@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <4AA5BD1D.2060707@justbrits.com>

<< "down low, five fingers extended but don't move the wrist" wave?>>

Beats the alternative, Chris !!!!      LOL

PPP

From sales at justbrits.com  Mon Sep  7 20:13:09 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:13:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909071819j1d071ee7x51edf07379178564@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10909071043s4c0e186dh4db68d01bb34b3d2@mail.gmail.com>
	<722327.73039.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909071819j1d071ee7x51edf07379178564@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA5BDB5.7000908@justbrits.com>

<< Where did I go wrong....>>

Maybe the EIGHT fingers & TWO thumbs per hand
could be your prob, Herb ?!?!?

Anon

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Sep  7 20:20:17 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:20:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <78916EE79A0B46F795410E229D2D4908@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <A36EA959B1D04D69A7CF5E132819BE3E@HomePC><C6CAC482.184A7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><D5184957D421498081817937392EA95A@spider><0A33352501794F049A9770EE0D768ECB@HomePC>
	<2ad6c6b10909071811w366926cerf777cec16cdad388@mail.gmail.com>
	<78916EE79A0B46F795410E229D2D4908@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <4AA5BF61.5050706@frontiernet.net>

Yes.

Kate


Chris Manuel wrote:
> Is it normal for us to get the Harley rider "down low, five fingers extended
> but don't move the wrist" wave?  

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Mon Sep  7 21:32:29 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:32:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <C6CADC30.208B9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <D5184957D421498081817937392EA95A@spider>
	<C6CADC30.208B9%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <047b01ca3035$0ca4d750$25ee85f0$@net>

Billy Zoom wrote:  "Trust me...I could never forget Doe getting killed."

Yeah, well you better check again, cuz he's dead as a door nail.  I just
went down to the Orange County morgue and he's there with a name tag on his
big toe!  Him and seven others with the same name!  Take your choice.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep  7 22:42:45 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 23:42:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <8CDCBFF307954DC5B734A36EFD5F476C@spider>
References: <A36EA959B1D04D69A7CF5E132819BE3E@HomePC><C6CAC482.184A7%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><D5184957D421498081817937392EA95A@spider><0A33352501794F049A9770EE0D768ECB@HomePC><2ad6c6b10909071811w366926cerf777cec16cdad388@mail.gmail.com><78916EE79A0B46F795410E229D2D4908@BASEMENTDELL>
	<8CDCBFF307954DC5B734A36EFD5F476C@spider>
Message-ID: <C1D8A2A1C0874B3CA3F71E2F4F0C47DF@HomePC>

LBCs getting the wave from Harleys?  I'm thinking it has something to do 
with both leaking oil all over the place.



--------------------------------------------------
From: <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 9:07 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)

> Sounds like a low-five to me; maybe Spridget drivers are close to the road
> like Harley drivers.
> ====================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Manuel
> Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:57 PM
> To: 'WFO Herb'; 'Larry Daniels'
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
>
> Nobody puts Baby in the corner.  Oh wait, wrong movie a year later....
>
> Is it normal for us to get the Harley rider "down low, five fingers 
> extended
> but don't move the wrist" wave?  Buzzed around town today and got that 
> from
> a few different groups (Milwaukee Harley Rally this weekend)
>
> Chris
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 23:27:16 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 00:27:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <C6CB076F.208CB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10909071819j1d071ee7x51edf07379178564@mail.gmail.com>
	<C6CB076F.208CB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909072227q5a21b4fp8ccc84eb7404e95c@mail.gmail.com>

I tend to look at mine when I'm playing. Doesn't help the playing any...
I'm just amazed when I hear sounds that work well so I have to look to see
if the fingers making those sounds are really mine!  I've been working on
some blues harp lately. It doesn't help looking at my fingers then either
and I can't see my tongue.

Cheers!!
Jim

P.S. Where's Jay?

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> >  Does that Billy Zoom fellow EVER look down at his guitar to see if his
> > fingers are there???
> I've tried looking. It didn't help.
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep  7 23:31:46 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:31:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <047b01ca3035$0ca4d750$25ee85f0$@net>
Message-ID: <C6CB3A52.208EA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  Him and seven others with the same name!
I assume they're all better bass players, but how well do they sing?

From sales at justbrits.com  Tue Sep  8 03:28:00 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 04:28:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <C6CB3A52.208EA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C6CB3A52.208EA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4AA623A0.8090702@justbrits.com>

<< Him and seven others with the same name!
I assume they're all better bass players, but how well do they sing?  >>

Mummified ??
 
er, WAIT !! 

Just 'muted' ??

Oh WAIT, they don't 'sing',  just 'hum' !!

No, that ain't it !?!?!?!?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep  8 06:58:46 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 12:58:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
In-Reply-To: <4AA5B806.5030705@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.3660.1252372307.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4AA5B806.5030705@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W417B95C3E5EA94FEC3AA19B8EA0@phx.gbl>

Maybe inspired by the '55 Lemans accident?  In case you run into the back of a
Mercedes while racing? ;)

http://www.ewilkins.com/wilko/lemans.htm



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXtb5eDUuQw



> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 20:48:54 -0500
> From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net
>
> It was British Leyland's answer to US safety requirements.
> As others have pointed out, it is to keep the engine and transmission
> from becoming a missile in case of an accident.
> Most other cars are designed to keep the engine from encroaching into
> the passenger compartment in an accident and thus saving the lives of
> said passengers.
> Gotta love that British sense of humour (sp)!
>
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:30:36 +0000
> .......<
> I am wondering if anyone else has cable running from the right bottom
> bellhousing to the chassis near the transmission mount? I assume it is
> a torque limiting device, but I did not find it in the books while we
> were working.
>
> Drew

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 08:44:24 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:44:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bracket and top questions
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20090901222916.01837288@mail.bellsouth.net>
References: <4.1.20090901222916.01837288@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909080744x4e4f7312k89f3ecda9c19f689@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Bob Spruck<mgmaven at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> That is the bracket that attaches the hardtop to the body. It can also be
> used for a tonneau bar that supports the leading edge of the tonneau cover
> so that it doesn't belly and hold water. I use it for both purposes on my ' 72.
>

Thanks Bob.

I don't have a tonneau bar for my cover and have never seen one.  How
big a deal is it to fabricate one and does anyone have pictures they
could share with me?

From Charles.M.Love2 at boeing.com  Tue Sep  8 09:04:27 2009
From: Charles.M.Love2 at boeing.com (EXT-Love, Charles M)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:04:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Calling Larry Miller
Message-ID: <8F1BB74D50D20946B9BAD16E4F48338205681227@XCH-SEEXT-10.se.nos.boeing.com>

Larry;

Would you contact me off list by email?.  I would like to talk to you
about your wiring of the bugeye....

Thanks,

cmlove at knology.net

Monty Love
256-337-5581 (Cell)
256-882-1543 (Home)

The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new.
They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always
there.

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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep  8 11:35:17 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:35:17 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
Message-ID: <c92.52f9864b.37d7efd5@aol.com>

I have blocks just the right size to raise the car at the front.  One  day 
I'll have new wheels made for the crane that are reduced height so I don't  
need the blocks.  The jib of the crane just clears a roof cross member and  
a light unit.
 
Weslake Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 07/09/2009 22:40:33 GMT Daylight Time,  
andrewpayne at intrex.net writes:

Our main  problem came with low ceiling height limiting the hoist and 
needing the car on  stands because the hoist was too wide and tall to fit under 
the wheels and  suspension.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep  8 11:37:48 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:37:48 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
Message-ID: <be0.63eace01.37d7f06c@aol.com>

Ok I want this film on DVD or better still blu-Ray what's it called?   Also 
anyone know who to convert a Samsung Blu-ray player to all regions.  I  
quite like some of Jeff Healeys music and naked women generally.
 
ED
 
 
In a message dated 07/09/2009 23:09:35 GMT Daylight Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

Good  movie-- Jeff Healey's music (LBC content in name only), lots of bad 
guys  getting offed and Kelly Lynch naked.  Can't beat that with a  stick.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep  8 11:45:56 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 10:45:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <be0.63eace01.37d7f06c@aol.com>
References: <be0.63eace01.37d7f06c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <7CE60428057E475E8B84B256433D4DD6@spider>

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098206/

 

 

  _____  

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 10:38 AM
To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net; corvallis at peoplepc.com;
spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)

 

Ok I want this film on DVD or better still blu-Ray what's it called?  Also
anyone know who to convert a Samsung Blu-ray player to all regions.  I quite
like some of Jeff Healeys music and naked women generally.

 

ED

 

 

In a message dated 07/09/2009 23:09:35 GMT Daylight Time,
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

Good movie-- Jeff Healey's music (LBC content in name only), lots of bad 
guys getting offed and Kelly Lynch naked.  Can't beat that with a stick.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep  8 12:02:29 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 18:02:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <7CE60428057E475E8B84B256433D4DD6@spider>
References: <be0.63eace01.37d7f06c@aol.com>
	<7CE60428057E475E8B84B256433D4DD6@spider>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W14A8280A6DC572867544D6B8EA0@phx.gbl>

GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



THERE'S BEEER TOO



ED


> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098206/
>
> _____
>
> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
>
> Ok I want this film on DVD or better still blu-Ray what's it called? Also
> anyone know who to convert a Samsung Blu-ray player to all regions. I quite
> like some of Jeff Healeys music and naked women generally.
>
>
>
> ED
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 07/09/2009 23:09:35 GMT Daylight Time,
> ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
> Good movie-- Jeff Healey's music (LBC content in name only), lots of bad
> guys getting offed and Kelly Lynch naked. Can't beat that with a stick.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep  8 12:54:47 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:54:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
In-Reply-To: <c92.52f9864b.37d7efd5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C6CBF687.2090F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> The jib of the crane just clears a roof cross member and
> a light unit.
My only problem is that the hoist is the same width as the tire track, so it
has to be off to the side about six inches. Are there any small engine
hoists out there? I've seen pictures in Practical Classics of little hoists
with a hand crank instead of a hydraulic pump. They were adorable.
BZ

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep  8 13:03:10 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 15:03:10 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
Message-ID: <c8b.5175ceb6.37d8046e@aol.com>

I have a Sealey SC10.
 
_http://www.tool-supplies.co.uk/images/SC10.jpg_ 
(http://www.tool-supplies.co.uk/images/SC10.jpg) 
 
Maybe a lister will buy one and have a spare set of wheels turned up though 
 I guess if their Spridget isn't lowered they might not need to?
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 08/09/2009 19:54:46 GMT Daylight Time,  
billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes:

My only  problem is that the hoist is the same width as the tire track, so 
it
has to  be off to the side about six inches. Are there any small engine
hoists out  there? I've seen pictures in Practical Classics of little hoists
with a  hand crank instead of a hydraulic pump. They were  adorable.
BZ

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Tue Sep  8 14:31:37 2009
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:31:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] bracket and top questions
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909080744x4e4f7312k89f3ecda9c19f689@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <4.1.20090901222916.01837288@mail.bellsouth.net>
	<4.1.20090901222916.01837288@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <4.1.20090908162524.02c1c7a8@mail.bellsouth.net>

Look at a Victoria British catalog in the section for tonneaus and hoods.
It is part number 19-150, 151, or 152.

You also can see them in Horler's "Original Sprite and Midget"on pages 54,
55,and 78.

The tonneau bar neatens things up, provides some visual security, and keeps
the rain from puddling on the tonneau. 

I plan to make one out of either some bars from an unneeded top frame or
3/4" conduit.

Bob


At 10:44 AM 9/8/2009 , Jeff Foster wrote:
>On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Bob Spruck<mgmaven at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> That is the bracket that attaches the hardtop to the body. It can also be
>> used for a tonneau bar that supports the leading edge of the tonneau cover
>> so that it doesn't belly and hold water. I use it for both purposes on my 
>' 72.
>>
>
>Thanks Bob.
>
>I don't have a tonneau bar for my cover and have never seen one.  How
>big a deal is it to fabricate one and does anyone have pictures they
>could share with me?

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 15:46:01 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 14:46:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of Cars?
In-Reply-To: <437009.4258.qm@web56008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <437009.4258.qm@web56008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909081446m5bbe1cc9r1c7281967f5c3b0@mail.gmail.com>

If you get the answer right your car speeds to the next question... It
shakes NO if you're wrong, and the right ones circle turns green.





*CLICK HERE <http://www.cramersweeney.com/brandprix/>
*


------------------------------

From stevenm at optonline.net  Tue Sep  8 16:19:46 2009
From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:19:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of Cars?
References: <437009.4258.qm@web56008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909081446m5bbe1cc9r1c7281967f5c3b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <69C35B75A87B435EA70196755D4BDAE1@1705n3>

18 of 20.  Is that a "good" thing?  Not sure...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
To: "Ed's Spridgeteers" <9issa at justbrits.com>; "Spridgeteers" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Sprite Yahoo" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; 
<uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com>; "Wedge List" <tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 5:46 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of Cars?


> If you get the answer right your car speeds to the next question... It
> shakes NO if you're wrong, and the right ones circle turns green.
>
>
>
>
>
> *CLICK HERE <http://www.cramersweeney.com/brandprix/> 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Sep  8 16:34:57 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:34:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of Cars?
In-Reply-To: <69C35B75A87B435EA70196755D4BDAE1@1705n3>
References: <437009.4258.qm@web56008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909081446m5bbe1cc9r1c7281967f5c3b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<69C35B75A87B435EA70196755D4BDAE1@1705n3>
Message-ID: <4AA6DC11.3040306@comcast.net>

19 out of 20, I missed the Pontiac logo, all looked close.
>


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Sep  8 16:55:33 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 15:55:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of Cars?
In-Reply-To: <4AA6DC11.3040306@comcast.net>
References: <437009.4258.qm@web56008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>,
	<69C35B75A87B435EA70196755D4BDAE1@1705n3>,
	<4AA6DC11.3040306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4AA6E0E5.599.5CE4D4@kk7ss.verizon.net>

>> 19 out of 20, I missed the Pontiac logo, all looked close.

>> 18 of 20.  Is that a "good" thing?  Not sure...

You guys are Madison Avenue's dreams come true  <Grin>
 

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 17:03:45 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:03:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of Cars?
In-Reply-To: <69C35B75A87B435EA70196755D4BDAE1@1705n3>
References: <437009.4258.qm@web56008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909081446m5bbe1cc9r1c7281967f5c3b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<69C35B75A87B435EA70196755D4BDAE1@1705n3>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909081603r1cff18c7m8cfc7c170b15ef6c@mail.gmail.com>

Were I a betting man, I'm not sure I'd bet on anyone getting 20 for 20.
Steven & Frank...you done goooood!

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Sep  8 18:14:29 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:14:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of Cars?
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909081603r1cff18c7m8cfc7c170b15ef6c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <437009.4258.qm@web56008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909081446m5bbe1cc9r1c7281967f5c3b0@mail.gmail.com>
	<69C35B75A87B435EA70196755D4BDAE1@1705n3>
	<2ad6c6b10909081603r1cff18c7m8cfc7c170b15ef6c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA6F365.80009@frontiernet.net>

I did, although I was tempted to put the Beetle down as the highest 
selling vehicle.  I changed my mind at the last second.

Kate

WFO Herb wrote:
> Were I a betting man, I'm not sure I'd bet on anyone getting 20 for 20.
> Steven & Frank...you done goooood!
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep  8 18:55:09 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:55:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bracket and top questions
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20090908162524.02c1c7a8@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <C6CC4AFD.20921%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> The tonneau bar neatens things up
What year is your car? I have a bar and case that are wrong for my '62.

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep  8 19:33:59 2009
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 20:33:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1252432802.6222.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15.1252432802.6222.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4AA70607.8030700@sbcglobal.net>

I don't know what model Samsung player you have, but this site should 
help. Worked great on a couple of Philips players I have.

http://www.videohelp.com/dvdhacks/samsung-bd-p1600/10179

Lee

Message: 5
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:37:48 EDT
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] John Doe (NSC)
To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net, corvallis at peoplepc.com,
	spridgets at autox.team.net
Message-ID: <be0.63eace01.37d7f06c at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Ok I want this film on DVD or better still blu-Ray what's it called?   Also
anyone know who to convert a Samsung Blu-ray player to all regions.  I
quite like some of Jeff Healeys music and naked women generally.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Sep  8 21:30:30 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 23:30:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out!
References: <c8b.5175ceb6.37d8046e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <6BA7D08CB1B44133BFB5D82D3CC97704@blackbox2>

When I pulled my engine the hoist legs were also too wide for the track of the sprite.

I removed the legs, repositioned, and used c-clamp to hold them in place.

> My only  problem is that the hoist is the same width as the tire track, so 
> it
> has to  be off to the side about six inches. Are there any small engine
> hoists out  there? I've seen pictures in Practical Classics of little hoists
> with a  hand crank instead of a hydraulic pump. They were  adorable.
> BZ

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Sep  9 11:11:31 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 13:11:31 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of AMERICAN Cars?
Message-ID: <bf4.57568112.37d93bc3@aol.com>

So really it's 'How Good is your knowledge of AMERICAN cars?  - I'll  pass 
on this even though I have driven a Pontiac (it had a nice 4 clock  dash).
 
In a message dated 08/09/2009 23:43:22 GMT Daylight Time,  
spritenut at comcast.net writes:

I missed  the Pontiac logo, all looked close.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep  9 13:47:53 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 12:47:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of AMERICAN Cars?
In-Reply-To: <bf4.57568112.37d93bc3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C6CD5479.184C4%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> So really it's 'How Good is your knowledge of AMERICAN cars?
It's REALLY "How good is your knowledge of American car commercials".

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed Sep  9 15:36:51 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 14:36:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Changing Bushings
Message-ID: <d49b03130909091436r19c28179wf7cccf74341a3937@mail.gmail.com>

When you change out the bushings at the inner A-arm, do you tighten them
before you put the car down on it's weight or after.  I seem to remember I
read somewhere that the inner bushing bolts are tightened after the car is
on it's wheels (I guess it would have to be on a lift) so the bushings are
centered in the respective bore for equal bending movement of the rubber
when the A-arm goes up and down.  Doesn't the bolt passing through the
bonded metal tube just turn inside and the rubber stays put?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Sep  9 15:50:47 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:50:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Changing Bushings
In-Reply-To: <d49b03130909091436r19c28179wf7cccf74341a3937@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <d49b03130909091436r19c28179wf7cccf74341a3937@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200909091450352.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Your method is correct, Mike. As the bolts are tightened the bushings 
expand their outer dimension into the holes. It's not just about the 
bolt-to-bushing dimension.
         Peter C
==
At 04:36 PM 9/9/2009, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote:
>When you change out the bushings at the inner A-arm, do you tighten them
>before you put the car down on it's weight or after.  I seem to remember I
>read somewhere that the inner bushing bolts are tightened after the car is
>on it's wheels (I guess it would have to be on a lift) so the bushings are
>centered in the respective bore for equal bending movement of the rubber
>when the A-arm goes up and down.  Doesn't the bolt passing through the
>bonded metal tube just turn inside and the rubber stays put?
>Mike MacLean
>60 Sprite
>56 BN2

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Sep  9 18:56:50 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:56:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of Cars?
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909081446m5bbe1cc9r1c7281967f5c3b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1163921543.446691252544210970.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

17/20

not bad

Ryan Kubanoff




----- Original Message -----
From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
To: "Ed's Spridgeteers" <9issa at justbrits.com>, "Spridgeteers"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Sprite Yahoo" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>,
uniquelittlecars at yahoo.com, "Wedge List" <tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 5:46:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Spridgets] How Good Is Your Knowledge of Cars?

If you get the answer right your car speeds to the next question... It
shakes NO if you're wrong, and the right ones circle turns green.





*CLICK HERE <http://www.cramersweeney.com/brandprix/>
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From wmseverin at charter.net  Thu Sep 10 06:25:18 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:25:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on  the Green at the Osthoff
Message-ID: <004101ca3211$c2708fb0$4751af10$@net>

Hey y'all,

 

My 20 piece big band will be entertaining at the VSCDA's Elkhart Lake
Vintage Fall Festival at Road America this weekend. We'll be playing at the
Gather on the Green car show over at the Osthoff, down by the lake from 5:30
to 7:00 pm on Saturday. The car show and music are free/open to the public.

 

The band plays swing era standards. come on out.

 

WST

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Sep 10 07:23:42 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:23:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
In-Reply-To: <004101ca3211$c2708fb0$4751af10$@net>
References: <004101ca3211$c2708fb0$4751af10$@net>
Message-ID: <402188520909100623i1824762emea680d2ebbb46172@mail.gmail.com>

> My 20 piece big band will be entertaining at the VSCDA's Elkhart Lake
> Vintage Fall Festival at Road America this weekend. We'll be playing at the
> Gather on the Green car show over at the Osthoff, down by the lake from 5:30
> to 7:00 pm on Saturday. The car show and music are free/open to the public.

I assume that parking will be "interesting" for this event?
David L

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 10 07:46:45 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
In-Reply-To: <402188520909100623i1824762emea680d2ebbb46172@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <004101ca3211$c2708fb0$4751af10$@net>
	<402188520909100623i1824762emea680d2ebbb46172@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200909100646648.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 08:23 AM 9/10/2009, David Lieb wrote:
> > My 20 piece big band will be entertaining at the VSCDA's Elkhart Lake
> > Vintage Fall Festival at Road America this weekend. We'll be playing at the
> > Gather on the Green car show over at the Osthoff, down by the 
> lake from 5:30
> > to 7:00 pm on Saturday. The car show and music are free/open to the public.
>
>I assume that parking will be "interesting" for this event?
>David L

If you drive down the main street, there'll be a sign, or police, 
directing cars older than... 68? to the left, others must turn 
around. Then, you ARE the show. Last year I parked in front of 
Siebken's.  The cars parked along the road can be fantastic.

Peter C. 

From wmseverin at charter.net  Thu Sep 10 07:49:40 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:49:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
In-Reply-To: <200909100646648.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <004101ca3211$c2708fb0$4751af10$@net>
	<402188520909100623i1824762emea680d2ebbb46172@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909100646648.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <008901ca321d$8b4b03b0$a1e10b10$@net>

Some confusion here... The Gather on the Green is not the street parked
show...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:47 AM
> To: David Lieb; Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
> 
> At 08:23 AM 9/10/2009, David Lieb wrote:
> > > My 20 piece big band will be entertaining at the VSCDA's Elkhart
> Lake
> > > Vintage Fall Festival at Road America this weekend. We'll be
> playing at the
> > > Gather on the Green car show over at the Osthoff, down by the
> > lake from 5:30
> > > to 7:00 pm on Saturday. The car show and music are free/open to the
> public.
> >
> >I assume that parking will be "interesting" for this event?
> >David L
> 
> If you drive down the main street, there'll be a sign, or police,
> directing cars older than... 68? to the left, others must turn
> around. Then, you ARE the show. Last year I parked in front of
> Siebken's.  The cars parked along the road can be fantastic.
> 
> Peter C.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Sep 10 07:51:01 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:51:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
In-Reply-To: <200909100646648.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <004101ca3211$c2708fb0$4751af10$@net>
	<402188520909100623i1824762emea680d2ebbb46172@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909100646648.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909100651v28c70e73y680f2a925cc7b99c@mail.gmail.com>

> If you drive down the main street, there'll be a sign, or police, directing
> cars older than... 68? to the left, others must turn around.

Sounds like there is a prejudice against RWA Midgets! ;-)
David L

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 10 08:04:56 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:04:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
In-Reply-To: <008901ca321d$8b4b03b0$a1e10b10$@net>
References: <004101ca3211$c2708fb0$4751af10$@net>
	<402188520909100623i1824762emea680d2ebbb46172@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909100646648.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<008901ca321d$8b4b03b0$a1e10b10$@net>
Message-ID: <200909100704921.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Didn't mean to confuse...... they all kind of drift together, time 
and location-wise. The street thing is earlier, then move the car, 
then stumble over to the green and sway to the Big Band sounds...
  PPP

At 08:49 AM 9/10/2009, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
>Some confusion here... The Gather on the Green is not the street parked
>show...
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
> > Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:47 AM
> > To: David Lieb; Spridgets
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
> >
> > At 08:23 AM 9/10/2009, David Lieb wrote:
> > > > My 20 piece big band will be entertaining at the VSCDA's Elkhart
> > Lake
> > > > Vintage Fall Festival at Road America this weekend. We'll be
> > playing at the
> > > > Gather on the Green car show over at the Osthoff, down by the
> > > lake from 5:30
> > > > to 7:00 pm on Saturday. The car show and music are free/open to the
> > public.
> > >
> > >I assume that parking will be "interesting" for this event?
> > >David L
> >
> > If you drive down the main street, there'll be a sign, or police,
> > directing cars older than... 68? to the left, others must turn
> > around. Then, you ARE the show. Last year I parked in front of
> > Siebken's.  The cars parked along the road can be fantastic.
> >
> > Peter C.
>
>
>
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 10 08:12:03 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 07:12:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
In-Reply-To: <200909100646648.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <648964.13918.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
> > I assume that parking will be "interesting" for this
> event?
> > David L
 
> If you drive down the main street, there'll be a sign, or
> police, directing cars older than... 68? to the left, others

That's a different event. Just park at the Osthoff or wherever you can. It's not bad at all - no such thing as a long or boring walk through Elkhart Lake.

Ron

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep 10 08:16:21 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:16:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
In-Reply-To: <402188520909100651v28c70e73y680f2a925cc7b99c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <004101ca3211$c2708fb0$4751af10$@net>
	<402188520909100623i1824762emea680d2ebbb46172@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909100646648.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> 
	<402188520909100651v28c70e73y680f2a925cc7b99c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W51753F8BA62E6065FEE555B8E80@phx.gbl>

Have her lie about her age!

> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:51:01 -0500
>
> > If you drive down the main street, there'll be a sign, or police,
directing
> > cars older than... 68? to the left, others must turn around.
>
> Sounds like there is a prejudice against RWA Midgets! ;-)
> David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Sep 10 08:29:33 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 09:29:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ELVF Gather on the Green at the Osthoff
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W51753F8BA62E6065FEE555B8E80@phx.gbl>
References: <004101ca3211$c2708fb0$4751af10$@net>
	<402188520909100623i1824762emea680d2ebbb46172@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909100646648.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<402188520909100651v28c70e73y680f2a925cc7b99c@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W51753F8BA62E6065FEE555B8E80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520909100729t5ebe0a84v3d341ddd1cb62356@mail.gmail.com>

> Have her lie about her age!

As if any "she" would lie in that direction!
David L

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Thu Sep 10 18:04:42 2009
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:04:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sighting
Message-ID: <BB12230945B34912A5169D3A50EA96D5@universal1>

    One on a flat-bed heading east on 94 near Ann Arbor, MI.

    Anyone on the list?

                                                                        CB

    ps: It was an El Camino - no, it couldn't be him, although the passenger
in the hauler did throw a beer can at me!

From sales at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 10 18:53:23 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:53:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sighting
In-Reply-To: <BB12230945B34912A5169D3A50EA96D5@universal1>
References: <BB12230945B34912A5169D3A50EA96D5@universal1>
Message-ID: <4AA99F83.6080703@justbrits.com>

<<  ps: It was an El Camino - no, it couldn't be him, although the passenger

in the hauler did throw a beer can at me!  >>

Ya musta 'deserved.' it Charlie !!!!   LMAO

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 04:20:23 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:20:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget steering wheel hub....where can I find one?
Message-ID: <205cef430909110320k2763ca62maa734a44aefeac48@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I have 2 smaller steering wheels and nether have the correct Spridget hub. I
looked at the Moss & Victoria British catalogs but they are the incorrect
holes. I don't want to shell out $300. for a smaller wooden or even leather
steering wheel.  Where else can I locate hubs for our Spridgets? If I can't
find a hub are there shops out there that can cast one from our stock
steering wheel? BTW that made in USA fuel pump was the best investment I
ever made : )
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
58 Bugeye waiting for my attention

From derf247 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 07:33:11 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:33:11 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget steering wheel hub....where can I find one?
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909110320k2763ca62maa734a44aefeac48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430909110320k2763ca62maa734a44aefeac48@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910909110633y8e9c99ah33726b7feed5abd4@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Momo adapter that should fit a 70 Spridget.  I am not sure
about other years.  You can have it for what I paid for it, $60.
I also have the center section of a Bugeye wheel than can be made into
an adapter.  You can have it for $5.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 11 14:25:09 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:25:09 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget steering wheel hub....where can I find one?
Message-ID: <c0d.5da44f84.37dc0c25@aol.com>

Hi Lin,
 
Do you have photos and measurements?  A local machine shop has the  special 
tool to cut splines (broaching using a broach) for both sizes of  Spridget 
steering column spline.  Also Mota-Lita do bosses for both small  and 
regular bosses for their wheels though the small boss needs modifying for  the 
Spridget.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 11/09/2009 11:32:08 GMT Daylight Time,  
grunthaner at gmail.com writes:

List,
I have 2 smaller steering wheels and nether have the correct  Spridget hub. 
I
looked at the Moss & Victoria British catalogs but they  are the incorrect
holes. I don't want to shell out $300. for a smaller  wooden or even leather
steering wheel.  Where else can I locate hubs  for our Spridgets? If I can't
find a hub are there shops out there that can  cast one from our stock
steering wheel? BTW that made in USA fuel pump was  the best investment I
ever made : )
Lin

62 California Sprite  "Pinky"
58 Bugeye waiting for my attention

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 11 14:48:50 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:48:50 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Classic Endurance Racing - not much LBC content
Message-ID: <cfd.60b39d58.37dc11b2@aol.com>

Hi List,
www.classicenduranceracing.com/uk/
2nd day at Silverstone  scrutineering mostly Classic Endurance Racing (CER)
cars but did some others as  well.  Yesterday was a great day doing only 11
CER cars but a quality list:  Lola  T70, Lola T296, Porsche 911 RS, Chevron
B36, Porsche 911 RSR, Lola T298 x 2,  MGC, Chevron B21, Ferrari 275 GTB,
Corvette 1973.  Lots of interesting  engines including Ford BDAs (BDGs) and
some kind of BMW 2.0L engine I've yet to  research.  Two cars have DFVs but
not that I did them this year.  I  suppose you all know about Chevvy engines
in T70s and  Corvettes.
Today got off to a  great start on the drive-in after I chased down a BMW
that baulked me.  Once Ibd caught up with him doing 80mph+  I flashed him to
move over and surprisingly he did.  However a Seat Leon thought he could
stay with me and so accelerated to 90mph + into a bend to pull away from  the
Leon.  I held a steady throttle  into the bend and could feel the front end
was pretty much on the limit once  clear of the bend (it was a long one), I
floored the throttle and took the car  to just over 103mph (5K in 5th on a
3.9 diff) before lifting off  after that as I was close to the exit for
Silverstone.  Yes my 69 Sprite is  modified and it really enjoyed itself (the
car
was begging for  it?).
So, a great start to the  day and straight into scrutineering the CER cars.
 I was particularly pleased to scrutineer  a DeThomas Mangusta which I donb
t think Ibve ever even seen in road car form  before (Ibve seen a couple
of
Panteras).  One interesting car I missed was the Howmet TX which looked a
bit like an  overgrown Porsche 908 b turned out the car is powered by a gas
turbine and  originated in the USA.  I also did a  couple of BMW M1s (I did
several last year).
I was on pit lane speed  limit for the CER free practice and qualifying
which was trouble free (and so  paperwork free).  I'd forgotten how loud the
cars were from last  year.  A lot of British racing requires racing cars to be
silenced to some  extent which means while they are a lot louder than a
road car (even mine) they  are not noisy at the pain threshold.  These cars,
especially when a couple  pass together were just at the pain threshold so I
used ear plugs virtually all  the time.  I thought they still sounded really
nice though.  What is  the red line on these 1960/70s engine?  Well one 2.0L
car had a red line on  the tacho at 9K.
I even saw Bobby Rahal in a  car - Lola T290 as well.
Tomorrow the cars have a  2nd qualifying session and an hour long race -
I'll be looking forward to it  though plan to give the car a slower ride in...
Weslake-Monza  1330

From dlancer7676 at comcast.net  Wed Sep  9 15:03:17 2009
From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 21:03:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: 789 Chevy
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Thought you guys and gals would be interesting in seeing this "789 Chevy". Pretty cool! 

--David C. 
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  789 Chevy..........
  Nice, very nice.........
  1957, 1958 & 1959 All Rolled Into One!
  This little Chevy is just too cool!
  We date ourselves if you recognized all three of the cars
  This car was built by N2A motors (No Two? Alike).
  Cost $40,000 over cost of new Corvette C6 (MSRP $44,000).
  Unbelievable! The company is planning a production run
  Of about 100 vehicles. It sits on a Corvette C6 chassis,
  Front styled like a 57 Chevy, side like a 58, rear like a 59.
  Hence the designation "789."


  Scroll down and drool!



  Zaeh, Suzi

  Is this a hot looking car, or What !!!







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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 12 02:16:32 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:16:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese tires to be more $$$$$$
Message-ID: <000f01ca3381$569b5a60$03d20f20$@net>

Good move.  WRONG reason!

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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 04:56:10 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:56:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
Message-ID: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>

Here it is: ebay item 260475409423

Hal

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 05:40:56 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:40:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget steering wheel hub....where can I find one?
In-Reply-To: <c0d.5da44f84.37dc0c25@aol.com>
References: <c0d.5da44f84.37dc0c25@aol.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909120440r730440eepca8c6388afd92475@mail.gmail.com>

Weslake-Monza,
I'll draw them up on CAD and take photos. Do you want me to send them to you
or do you have an address?
Lin

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:25 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

>  Hi Lin,
>
> Do you have photos and measurements?  A local machine shop has the special
> tool to cut splines (broaching using a broach) for both sizes of Spridget
> steering column spline.  Also Mota-Lita do bosses for both small and regular
> bosses for their wheels though the small boss needs modifying for the
> Spridget.
>
> Regards
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
> In a message dated 11/09/2009 11:32:08 GMT Daylight Time,
> grunthaner at gmail.com writes:
>
> List,
> I have 2 smaller steering wheels and nether have the correct Spridget hub.
> I
> looked at the Moss & Victoria British catalogs but they are the incorrect
> holes. I don't want to shell out $300. for a smaller wooden or even leather
> steering wheel.  Where else can I locate hubs for our Spridgets? If I can't
> find a hub are there shops out there that can cast one from our stock
> steering wheel? BTW that made in USA fuel pump was the best investment I
> ever made : )
> Lin
>
> 62 California Sprite "Pinky"
> 58 Bugeye waiting for my attention

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 05:51:14 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:51:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909120451r7ff75eech2920519702d82522@mail.gmail.com>

What was he thinking?

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here it is: ebay item 260475409423
>
> Hal
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Sat Sep 12 06:16:32 2009
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 08:16:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
References: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <02df01ca33a2$dd9be360$6401a8c0@refisk>

Hey at least it comes with a nice tonneau bar!  Somebody was looking for one 
a few days ago.  :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Faulkner" <frog.aye at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:56 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project


> Here it is: ebay item 260475409423
>
> Hal

From cooper6 at swbell.net  Sat Sep 12 06:28:36 2009
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:28:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a crankshaft Pulley for a 948
Message-ID: <80B411E95E0341ECBA7EE94281DF7236@cooper>

All,

 

I messed up my crankshaft pulley on my 948 does anyone have an extra one to
sell? 

 

Before I have to go to one of the vendors?

 

Martin Cooper

 





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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 07:48:09 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 06:48:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <360772.9649.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Kind of has hints of Tiger with the fins on it. I've got to admit it has a
ceretain apeal... But then I've always loved flat black with red trim as a
color theme.
David Booker
Long Island

--- On Sat, 9/12/09, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 5:56 AM


Here it is: ebay item 260475409423

Hal
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 08:32:45 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:32:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909120732q73bdae23se36aed978498c935@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 5:56 AM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here it is: ebay item 260475409423
>

I find it interesting that it's sitting at $366.66 after 2 bids ...
that's where the auction ended after 4 bids last time he tried to sell
it (Sept. 3rd - Item number: 260468824258).

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Sat Sep 12 08:39:29 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:39:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Pictures - No LBC
Message-ID: <8405ti$6qnkbu@email.mtu.edu>

While waiting for my wife in the Dr's office, I picked up 
Architectural Digest Magazine. I found an article (actually an 
extended advertisement from Maserati) on a architectural design 
contest for garages. The winning garage has such features as a 
parking "table" that lifts 5" on one end so the Maserati parked on it 
can roll out of the garage before the driver starts the car. (You 
wouldn't want to soil a garage like that one!) The runners up are 
shown too. There's a bunch of them. You can see the all at 
www.designdriven.us. Don't go looking for ideas on how to plumb in 
your air lines, etc. Think more about finding ideas on where to place 
the plasma flat screen TV in relation to the wine cellar. WST can 
find some good ideas for that new bathroom by looking at entry #0183. 
Ron S should have entered his garage. All he needed was the name of 
some fancy architect attached to his entry.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From lindlaw at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 09:51:52 2009
From: lindlaw at yahoo.com (Ed Lindley)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 08:51:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] reverse thread?
Message-ID: <634434.41123.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

98 Camry 2.2.  Crankshaft pulley bolt, does it unscrew normally, counter-clockwise) or clockwise?

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 10:23:50 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:23:50 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <02df01ca33a2$dd9be360$6401a8c0@refisk>
References: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<02df01ca33a2$dd9be360$6401a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0909120923w47c8297bn81ea3c1cd739b3e7@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Rick <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:
Hey at least it comes with a nice tonneau bar!  Somebody was looking for one
a few days ago.  :-)


Jeff's car is a fold down top model Midget so it won't fit! He needs the one
with the flat mounting brackets...
-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 10:31:40 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 09:31:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Pictures - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <8405ti$6qnkbu@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <11156.77669.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just got my new Classic Motorsports issue in the mail a couple of days ago. 
Have not yet looked at it in depth, but there is an article on garages in
there.  Looks like some really interesting ones - from mega-buck ones full of
high-dollar cars to something regular people might be able to put together on
a real-world budget.  A must-read when I get a few minutes.

 - David Booker
(packing up my garage today)
Long Island
 
 
--- On Sat, 9/12/09, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:


From: Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Pictures - No LBC
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 9:39 AM


While waiting for my wife in the Dr's office, I picked up Architectural Digest
Magazine. I found an article (actually an extended advertisement from
Maserati) on a architectural design contest for garages. The winning garage
has such features as a parking "table" that lifts 5" on one end so the
Maserati parked on it can roll out of the garage before the driver starts the
car. (You wouldn't want to soil a garage like that one!) The runners up are
shown too. There's a bunch of them. You can see the all at
www.designdriven.us. Don't go looking for ideas on how to plumb in your air
lines, etc. Think more about finding ideas on where to place the plasma flat
screen TV in relation to the wine cellar. WST can find some good ideas for
that new bathroom by looking at entry #0183. Ron S should have entered his
garage. All he needed was the name of some fancy architect attached to his
entry.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 12 11:29:46 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:29:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6D1289A.20A08%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Which piece is supposed to be 1960?
BTW, I think that tonneau bar looks salvageable...didn't somebody need one?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep 12 11:57:49 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:57:49 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
Message-ID: <be6.56dcd401.37dd3b1d@aol.com>

There is anti-drugs message here I'm certain.
 
In a message dated 12/09/2009 13:35:09 GMT Daylight Time,  
refisk at chartermi.net writes:

Hey at  least it comes with a nice tonneau bar!  Somebody was looking for 
one  
a few days ago.  :-)

----- Original Message ----- 
From:  "Hal Faulkner" <frog.aye at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets"  <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 6:56  AM
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project


> Here it is: ebay item  260475409423
>
> Hal

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 12 11:58:51 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:58:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a crankshaft Pulley for a 948
In-Reply-To: <80B411E95E0341ECBA7EE94281DF7236@cooper>
Message-ID: <C6D12F6B.20A0B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  crankshaft pulley on my 948
Is it the same as a 1098?

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 12:05:32 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:05:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <360772.9649.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<360772.9649.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4333f8140909121105p2a73bdd4p91c5deb26093dffb@mail.gmail.com>

David, is that cretin appeal?
Hal

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:48 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Kind of has hints of Tiger with the fins on it. I've got to admit it has a
> ceretain apeal... But then I've always loved flat black with red trim as a
> color theme.
> David Booker
> Long Island
>
> --- On *Sat, 9/12/09, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 5:56 AM
>
> Here it is: ebay item 260475409423
>
> Hal
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 12:10:43 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:10:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <be6.56dcd401.37dd3b1d@aol.com>
References: <be6.56dcd401.37dd3b1d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910909121110r6811db8dyd221f50c58d35e0c@mail.gmail.com>

It is one of those super rare 60 Sprites with the door handles and
square wheel arch, and the super rare "Healy" spelling.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 12 12:34:31 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:34:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <be6.56dcd401.37dd3b1d@aol.com>
References: <be6.56dcd401.37dd3b1d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <003401ca33d7$ab80a340$0281e9c0$@net>

WeslakeMonza wrote:  "There is anti-drugs message here I'm certain."

Careful, it is not Winter yet.  You might draw some ire in off-list e-mail!

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 12:42:12 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:42:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a crankshaft Pulley for a 948
In-Reply-To: <C6D12F6B.20A0B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <80B411E95E0341ECBA7EE94281DF7236@cooper>
	<C6D12F6B.20A0B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4333f8140909121142s1841fb31y1ea4f934fba79e86@mail.gmail.com>

There were at least two different crankshaft pulleys on the spridget.  I
think all the 948s came with a riveted and pressed steel pully.  1275s came
with a real damper, a cast assembly with a heavy weight part attached to the
pulley via a rubber ring (or something like that.)  I don't know about the
1098s, but the VB cat lists the same pulley as for the 948.  At least one of
the usual suspects did sell a pulley that looks and is heavy like the damper
but it is one solid lump without the rubber part.
You can use either pulley or damper on the 948, but the 1275 should have the
damper.  Minis used a two part pulley damper assy that is bolted together
and can also be used on inline engines.  If you want to use a Gilmer belt
system the pulley can be replaced by one with teeth ( you'll need to change
the water pump and alternator pulleys as well.)
If you have a 1275 damper that is not serviceable because the rubber is
cracking, you can send it to the Damper Doctor to be repaired for about a
third the cost of a new one.
Hal

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>wrote:

> >  crankshaft pulley on my 948
> Is it the same as a 1098?
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 12 13:01:17 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:01:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140909121105p2a73bdd4p91c5deb26093dffb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <673793.49158.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've been called far worse.  But yes, flat black really appeals to me.  Years
ago I painted my '80 Scirocco flat black. With the dark windows and lowered
stance, it looked like something Darth Vader would have driven.
 - David Booker
Long Island

--- On Sat, 9/12/09, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] E-bay project
To: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 1:05 PM


David, is that cretin appeal?
Hal


On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 6:48 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:






Kind of has hints of Tiger with the fins on it. I've got to admit it has a
ceretain apeal... But then I've always loved flat black with red trim as a
color theme.
David Booker
Long Island


--- On Sat, 9/12/09, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:



From: Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com>

Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project

To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 5:56 AM



Here it is: ebay item 260475409423

Hal
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sat Sep 12 17:46:22 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:46:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
References: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5D1EF5B94A6B4AEBB4B4D06A7A136558@blackbox2>

One of the photos shows a V-8 nestled in the engine bay and the description
says "The engine & trans is NOT INCLUDED. I just want to show that a 454/ 4spd will fit."

I wonder what a 454 would do to those little red spoke wheels..

Twa..twa...twa..twa..twang!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hal Faulkner" <frog.aye at gmail.com>

> Here it is: ebay item 260475409423

From sales at justbrits.com  Sat Sep 12 19:06:22 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:06:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <5D1EF5B94A6B4AEBB4B4D06A7A136558@blackbox2>
References: <4333f8140909120356k6ebc6d73w4761b6f939dc36ec@mail.gmail.com>
	<5D1EF5B94A6B4AEBB4B4D06A7A136558@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4AAC458E.6030300@justbrits.com>

<<I wonder what a 454 would do to those little red spoke wheels..

Twa..twa...twa..twa..twang! >>

Nah Dean<G>, it would be twang, twang, twang, etal!!!

Dump the clutch and be spinning hubs !!!  LOL

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sat Sep 12 19:16:25 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:16:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <673793.49158.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C6D195F9.20A1C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

The local Rat Rod guys mix Rustoleum flat with Rustolium semi-gloss, I think
at 3 to 1.  I guess it's a look. It certainly hides flaws well.

From sales at justbrits.com  Sat Sep 12 19:19:59 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 20:19:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Some interesting things !!
Message-ID: <4AAC48BF.40804@justbrits.com>

 From my "joke" eMail List (which ALL of you ARE

welcome to join)!!!!!

http://www.justbrits.com/Temps/candles.wmv

<<   I did not try this, but it is interesting
---------------------------------------------------
for you scientifically innovative people the next power up we will 
be making
do with,  and then we will get a fine for polluting the air   

Is this really true?>>

And from the MailMan Users List, a VERY oldie and GREAT
video !!!!

>From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4qEzSz1JSc.

ENJOY !!!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sat Sep 12 20:14:21 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:14:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Light blue RHD Sprite on HWY 30 near Clatskanie Or this
 afternoon
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0909121914h504a49ebhf3caf71f840f2324@mail.gmail.com>

I just picked up the family van from the repair shop and on my way towards
Wa state on Hwy 30 I met a pretty little light blue Sprite.
Right hand drive, maybe Mk2 or maybe a little newer - it was gone so fast.
I just had time to nudge the missus and point, she saw it and commented on
how cute it was.

Anyone on the list??

Rick (I see Spites, everywhere...) Bastedo

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Sep 13 05:41:55 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:41:55 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
Message-ID: <d52.5680d250.37de3483@aol.com>

I have heard of Big Healey's on w/w moving the tyres on the rims such  that 
inner tube valve was ripped out.
 
In a message dated 13/09/2009 00:49:13 GMT Daylight Time,  
dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:

I wonder  what a 454 would do to those little red spoke  wheels..

Twa..twa...twa..twa..twang!

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Sep 13 10:24:44 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:24:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] gear reduction starter
Message-ID: <3281EEDC-4493-4963-990D-1084AFC3F9BF@verizon.net>

I'm installing a gear reduction starter on my bugeye.  The seller says  
it's OK to bypass the starter internal solenoid with a jumper wire to  
the other battery wire.  Will it work on spridget with the stock  
starter switch with the bypass?  What are you guys doing with the  
wiring?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From lindlaw at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 13 10:28:03 2009
From: lindlaw at yahoo.com (Ed Lindley)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Crank Pulley removal: 98 Camry
In-Reply-To: <4922BB57596C428AA37A8FB42EAEA021@internetpc>
Message-ID: <642364.26432.qm@web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Still in vehicle.  I probably should have mentioned it is an automatic.  Also,
the rope trick may well be impossible.  The plugs are set deep (6-8") within
the valve cover(ala Chrysler hemi engines, or at least my Dad's 53 Dodge RAM
V8).
Not just "replacing" (as part of PREVENTIVE maintenance) timing belt, but
replacingBROKEN belt (hence where are the valves pisitioned at the moment.  I
believe it is a non-interference head, but not certain.

--- On Sun, 9/13/09, Bob Gardner <rdgard at cox.net> wrote:


From: Bob Gardner <rdgard at cox.net>
Subject: RE: [midgetsprite] Re: Crank Pulley removal: 98 Camry
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 13, 2009, 9:10 AM


 



Yes, in gear works ok, but not too well when the engine is on the bench.

Cheers,

Bob

Robert D. Gardner

Gardner Productions LLC
Film and Video Production since 1978
619-460-1000
www.gardnerproducti ons.com <http://www.gardnerp roductions. com/>


_____

From: midgetsprite@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:midgetsprite@ yahoogroups. com]
On
Behalf Of roderickdsage
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 9:06 PM
To: midgetsprite@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [midgetsprite] Re: Crank Pulley removal: 98 Camry

If it's in gear or park with the brakes on, wouldn't that hold the engine?
Or can some big vise grips be used? They have those wrenches with the
webbing material which can be tightened around almost anything.

Rod S

--- In midgetsprite@ <mailto:midgetsprit e%40yahoogroups. com>
yahoogroups. com, "Dave G." <kk7ss at ...> wrote:
>
> My dad taught me that trick..
> Also works for doing valve springs, seals, collets, etc..
>
>
> On 12 Sep 2009 at 13:23, Bob Gardner wrote:
> >> Has anyone else heard of that?
>
> --
> Dave G. KK7SS Richland, WA
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
>
> Age is just another number... !
>

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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep 13 11:20:13 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:20:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <3281EEDC-4493-4963-990D-1084AFC3F9BF@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C6D277DD.20A40%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

If you still have the original pull switch, use that starter solenoid.
A solenoid is good.

> The seller says  
> it's OK to bypass the starter internal solenoid with a jumper wire 

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep 13 11:26:39 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:26:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a crankshaft Pulley for a 948
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140909121142s1841fb31y1ea4f934fba79e86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6D2795F.20A44%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I have a 1098 pulley that I don't need. I has a groove from the seal, but I
also have the correct Speedy-Sleeve. I'm using that solid-lump unit.

>  At least one of the usual suspects did sell a pulley that looks and is heavy
> like the damper but it is one solid lump without the rubber part.

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Sep 13 11:28:58 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 13:28:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] gear reduction starter
In-Reply-To: <C6D277DD.20A40%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C6D277DD.20A40%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <5978F53C-CB76-45D8-BD3D-CCAD515B146E@verizon.net>

Thanks Billy.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Sep 13, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:

> If you still have the original pull switch, use that starter solenoid.
> A solenoid is good.
>
>> The seller says
>> it's OK to bypass the starter internal solenoid with a jumper wire

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 13 13:59:30 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:59:30 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] gear reduction starter
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV10C3772DD7696612721115C8E50@phx.gbl>

It did on mine. :)

One thing with GR starters. Make sure your battery is up to snuff "dynamically" (test it under load every now and then) or, you can burn the contacts out in the GR starter's solenoid in no time at all. 

Ask me how I know??! :)
 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Nase
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 12:24 PM
To: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: [Spridgets] gear reduction starter

I'm installing a gear reduction starter on my bugeye.  The seller says  
it's OK to bypass the starter internal solenoid with a jumper wire to  
the other battery wire.  Will it work on spridget with the stock  
starter switch with the bypass?  What are you guys doing with the  
wiring?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 13 14:00:50 2009
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It did on mine. :)

One thing with GR starters. Make sure your battery is up to snuff "dynamically" (test it under load every now and then) or, you can burn the contacts out in the GR starter's solenoid in no time at all. 

Ask me how I know??! :)
 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Nase
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 12:24 PM
To: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: [Spridgets] gear reduction starter

I'm installing a gear reduction starter on my bugeye.  The seller says  
it's OK to bypass the starter internal solenoid with a jumper wire to  
the other battery wire.  Will it work on spridget with the stock  
starter switch with the bypass?  What are you guys doing with the  
wiring?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 13 14:09:15 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:09:15 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: 1957 Mercedes Benz 190SL from The Kent Collection
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3200938A58F0810013591C8E50@phx.gbl>

Very cool car. :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Collection
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:34 AM
To: pilotrob at webtv.net
Subject: 1957 Mercedes Benz 190SL from The Kent Collection

The Kent Collection - www.kentcarcollection.com

1957 Mercedes Benz 190SL - Price: ?18,950.00       
            
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The mechanics are good and the car runs and drives. Everything works as it should and the car comes with a hard top. Some of the chrome could do with re chroming. Glass is good, all electrics work. This is a very solid, complete and presentable 190SL.

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From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 13 14:13:12 2009
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 15:13:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Crank Pulley removal: 98, Camry
In-Reply-To: <mailman.7.1252864803.13920.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.7.1252864803.13920.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4AAD5258.7060204@sbcglobal.net>

Ed,

The rope trick WILL work. It's just a little more difficult to feed the 
rope down the spark plug hole. Be SURE to leave at least a foot of rope 
sticking out of the plug hole and top of the head, so you can retrieve 
the rope when you're done and as a visual reminder that you have rope in 
there. The four cylinder engine is NON interference, but, I think, the 
V6 is.

Another trick that works even better for me is to remove the pulley is 
to put a big socket on the crankshaft pulley nut and a long breaker bar 
on the ground, facing the front. Bump the starter (pull the coil wire to 
prevent starting) and it should come loose. I believe the engine turns 
clockwise. Use the rope trick to tighten. You only need 80 ft.-lbs. Let 
me know if you need the pages from the factory shop manual.

Lee

Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 09:28:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ed Lindley <lindlaw at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Crank Pulley removal: 98
	Camry
To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, 1-Locost
	<Locost_North_America at yahoogroups.com>, 1-Spridgets
	<spridgets at autox.team.net>, 1-Toyota
	<classictoyotatown at yahoogroups.com>, AH-9issa <9issa at justbrits.com>,
	macsclubhouse at yahoogroups.com
Message-ID: <642364.26432.qm at web50607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Still in vehicle.  I probably should have mentioned it is an automatic. 
  Also, the rope trick may well be impossible.  The plugs are set deep 
(6-8") within the valve cover(ala Chrysler hemi engines, or at least my 
Dad's 53 Dodge RAM V8).
Not just "replacing" (as part of PREVENTIVE maintenance) timing belt, 
but replacingBROKEN belt (hence where are the valves pisitioned at the 
moment.  I believe it is a non-interference head, but not certain.

From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Sep 13 17:03:56 2009
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:03:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Whining time, Team.Net updates
Message-ID: <20090913230356.2CBF42E061@bradakis.com>

Yes, I know that as the fellow behind the curtain who
keeps Team.Net on the air, I do my share of whining.
But the whining here is coming from one of the disks
on the server, a bearing ready to fail in a few days,
a couple of weeks, maybe not until 2010.  Who knows?

Rather than risk a sudden failure, it would be prudent
to consider getting new hardware.  And that is where you
come in.  I didn't have an official fund drive this year,
though donations have come in at random times during the
year.

It seems to be time for those of you who have not
recently contributed to step up and assist in keeping
Team.Net on the air.  If you have a few dollars to spare
and desire to support this endeavor, check out the web
page http://www.team.net/donate.html  I, and thousands
of folks around the planet would appreciate it.  Gee, I
haven't taken an actual count of all subscribers lately,
I ought to do a headcount.

On a related note, I have been doing a few things, like
moving a few more lists from majordomo to mailman.  Back
when I started doing this about 20 years ago majordomo
was the hot ticket.  It is a bit outdated now, mailman is
much more web friendly, hopefully much easier for you
folks to use.  Of course, there are those who still try
to use majordomo to manage their mailman subscriptions,
not much I can do about that!

One thing I did was change the judson list, which was
intended for discussion of classic Judson superchargers
to superchargers at autox.team.net, opening it up for folks
to discuss other brands.  Feel free to go to the mailman
page, http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo to sign up if
you so desire.

Actually I had hoped more folks would sign up for the-local
list, a place for random discussion about all sorts of stuff.
Tell a joke, review a movie, report the antics of your favorite
public idiot, lament the last loss of your team, whatever.

If there is a list you'd like to see, chances are I'd set one
up, no problem.

But for now, consider this an Official Team.Net fund drive,
and assist as you can: http://www.team.net/donate.html

Thanks!

mjb.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep 13 17:49:47 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:49:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: Crank Pulley removal: 98, Camry
In-Reply-To: <4AAD5258.7060204@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <C6D2D32B.20A5A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  Bump the starter (pull the coil wire to
> prevent starting) and it should come loose.
This usually works on Toyotas, but don't try it on a Honda because their
engines turn counter-clockwise.

From cclabaw at juno.com  Sun Sep 13 18:14:39 2009
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:14:39 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: 1957 Mercedes Benz 190SL from The Kent
 Collection
Message-ID: <20090913.171439.6580.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

When these were new, at least one owner (from BC) tried racing it.  It
received the new nomenclature 190 SLED.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: 1957 Mercedes Benz 190SL from The Kent Collection
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:09:15 GMT

Very cool car. :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Collection
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 5:34 AM
To: pilotrob at webtv.net
Subject: 1957 Mercedes Benz 190SL from The Kent Collection

The Kent Collection - www.kentcarcollection.com

1957 Mercedes Benz 190SL - Price: ?18,950.00

Rust Free Driver. A very solid and original 190SL, Blue with Blue interior.
Seats and carpets are very clean and in good condition. Floors are solid and
dry. All panels are clean and rust free.

The mechanics are good and the car runs and drives. Everything works as it
should and the car comes with a hard top. Some of the chrome could do with re
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and presentable 190SL.

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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 13 18:41:00 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:41:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Some interesting things !!
In-Reply-To: <4AAC48BF.40804@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <874192.73548.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's a great one Ed - Kind of like the home-made levitation shoe how-to
video I saw a while ago, You just know there are people all over the globe
trying to generate electricity with candles because of this video. The Eagles
video was cool too. 

--- On Sat, 9/12/09, Sales at " Just Brits " <sales at justbrits.com> wrote:


From: Sales at " Just Brits " <sales at justbrits.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Some interesting things !!
To: "4 - Healeys" <healeys at Autox.Team.Net>, "4 - MG Ts" <mg-t at autox.team.net>,
"4 - MGs" <Mgs at autox.team.net>, "4 - Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 8:19 PM


>From my "joke" eMail List (which ALL of you ARE

welcome to join)!!!!!

http://www.justbrits.com/Temps/candles.wmv

<<   I did not try this, but it is interesting
---------------------------------------------------
for you scientifically innovative people the next power up we will be making
do with,  and then we will get a fine for polluting the air   
Is this really true?>>

And from the MailMan Users List, a VERY oldie and GREAT
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> From http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4qEzSz1JSc.

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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 18:52:04 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:52:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 4 new trunk monkeys
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909131751j4f077523y19d281236381c5ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <677210.48565.qm@web81603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909131751j4f077523y19d281236381c5ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909131752i103ddd72n6983bd7e1d5946a7@mail.gmail.com>

Options they come up with....

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type video/x-ms-wmv which had a name of 4TrunkMo.wmv]

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Sun Sep 13 19:36:00 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 01:36:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
Message-ID: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Having just been to a fire sale of a 74 midget that caught fire in the
driveway I am now VERY interested in fire protection.B  Othere than the $165
dollar fire extinguisher M-O-S-S (insert franks favorite acronyms) sells. What
are you using and where do you store it?



Ryan

fire free 74

now with more shiny parts.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 13 19:45:48 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 18:45:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Pictures - No LBC
In-Reply-To: <8405ti$6qnkbu@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <444132.8122.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 9/12/09, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:
> for that new bathroom by looking at entry #0183. Ron S
> should have entered his garage. All he needed was the name
> of some fancy architect attached to his entry

Tim, 
Thanks - it's really just a 15x20 room with some nice wall hangings and a good cheap floor. I nicknamed the carpenter "Zippy." 

For the ultimate, check out the Nevoral's garage with "Team Thicko" sticker over a urinal in "Ultimate Garages II". Also a few other VSCDA members as well.

Ron

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 20:01:37 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:01:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910909131901h576fc41ch32c596127a7ac197@mail.gmail.com>

Academy Sports or West Marine should be able to provide something less
expensive and rated for boats, which should cover your Spridget, too.

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 20:04:07 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:04:07 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910909131904n5d9c3648lb19356c2859ce49c@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SiteSearchView?jspStoreDi
r=wm51&catalogId=10001&Ne=1822&Ntt=Portable%20Extinguishers&N=377+710+1240+18
23&page=CategoryDisplayLevel1&y=0&x=0&omniTag=Price+Range%3aLess+than+%24100&
PopularCat=No&storeId=10001

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 13 20:06:40 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:06:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <0D556BB7C6AB4849B72486BA12BAD2C3@spider>

I use the inert gas extinguishers that are available at Home Depot; various
sizes. I get one that is big enough to see and put it where it can be seen.
...bill in Oregon (fire no more in 74)
==============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 18:36
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?

Having just been to a fire sale of a 74 midget that caught fire in the
driveway I am now VERY interested in fire protection.B  Othere than the $165
dollar fire extinguisher M-O-S-S (insert franks favorite acronyms) sells.
What
are you using and where do you store it?



Ryan

fire free 74

now with more shiny parts.
_______________________________________________

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Sep 13 20:15:29 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:15:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] new starter solenoid
Message-ID: <2D18B372-0433-4E55-8713-AA66C4C1F8B4@verizon.net>

Got a new solenoid but I can use it.  The attachment for the pull  
cable has only 1/4" showing.  The front has about 2".  So by pulling  
it out far enough to attach the pull it's fully extended.

Guess where I got it?

Could it be for another car?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Sep 13 22:45:28 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:45:28 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0909132145m61804cey734b5f33e57bbffe@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:36 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
I am now VERY interested in fire protection.B   What are you using and where
do you store it?


Ryan,

A dry chemical extinguisher (standard ABC) should give you piece of mind.
Spend a couple of dollars more and get the kind with a pressure gauge on the
neck. That way you will know if it is good at a glance. Also, every few
months take it and turn it upside down, sideways, etc., and tap it with
something heavy to prevent the powder from caking up. Mount it where you can
get to it from the driver's seat!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Mon Sep 14 03:25:26 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:25:26 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
Message-ID: <29897442.1252920326019.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

get an ABC rated marine type extinguisher with a metal mounting bracket.   first off most inexpensive extinguishers have a plastic top.   if you have an accident and it breaks loose from the mounting the top breaks off and the extinguisher's bottle becomes a jet powered projectile in your car!  hence a metal top type of extinguisher.   second a metal mounting bracket (comes with a marine type certified by U.S. coast guard) is included in the purchase and will not let thee xtinguisher "loose" like the cheapo plastic mounts.   
mounting?  well i like mine just behind the passenger seat where i can reach it with my seat belt on.  also that location allows complete seating room for both driver and passenger.   some like it on a rollbar , some prefer it on the floor on top of the jack box(between the inner rocker and trans. tunnel).   i'm too tall for the floor mount and do not prefer a rollbar mount as that would either put it right behind you (very hard to get to in an emergency) or too far away on the opposite side of the rollbar.   of course there are onboard fire systems with a remote bottle and plumbed nozzles thatyou can direct to specific areas for an instant onboard fire "pull the red handle" for the serious race car types or the extreme paranoid street car  drivers.  but i find a good 2lb. to 2.5lb. ABC marine extinguisher just fine.

chuck
same bugeye for a very long time.

-----Original Message-----
>From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
>Sent: Sep 13, 2009 9:36 PM
>To: spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
>
>Having just been to a fire sale of a 74 midget that caught fire in the
>driveway I am now VERY interested in fire protection.B  Othere than the $165
>dollar fire extinguisher M-O-S-S (insert franks favorite acronyms) sells. What
>are you using and where do you store it?

From grday at btinternet.com  Mon Sep 14 03:52:57 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:52:57 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
References: <2118201616.1917541252892160711.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<b777e2be0909132145m61804cey734b5f33e57bbffe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FC8EDD4038044A5BAA3187D266E7CFEB@dell330>

Fire Brigade standing orders are to open them on a weekly basis and 
physically stir the powder to ensure free flow.

The vibration in a vehicle does pack dry powder down and in previous 
scrutineering safety talks I've set one off, then stripped it down and it 
will typically show around 50 to 70% of the powder unused and compacted 
inside the bottom of the container.  In many motor-sport arenas vehicle 
mounted dry powder extinguishers are prohibited.  You WILL need to loosen 
dry powder up FAR MORE often than 'every few months'. At least weekly if all 
you are going to do is give it an external shake and bang.  One thing to try 
is to unscrew the top and remove it and the attached gas cylinder, put them 
to one side and pour the contents of the extinguisher into a large jug. 
Then look in the fire extinguisher and you'll see how much is left behind! 
Chip that loose and stir it up with a stick then pour that out into the jug 
as well, stir again.  If you can, get a plastic pipe around the same 
diameter as the gas cylinder (plastic waste water pipe, broom handle?), hold 
that vertically in the centre of the container and pour the powder back in 
around it.  Carefully lift the pipe out and that will leave a hole to slide 
the gas cylinder and top back in, screw it up and you have a dry powder 
extinguisher without a compacted core where problems can start.

BCF is no longer used in UK but it was good stuff for fires, bad for lungs 
and the atmosphere.  Aqueous Fire Fighting Foam (AFFF) has turned into the 
standard choice.

If something is on fire you need to be able to get to the fire extinguisher 
quickly  - as Kent correctly says - and you don't want it 
clamped/bolted/clipped in that well you can't get it out!

Guy R Day

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CosmicMag1380" <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
To: <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?


> On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:36 PM, <ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net> wrote:
> I am now VERY interested in fire protection.B   What are you using and 
> where
> do you store it?
>
> Ryan,
>
> A dry chemical extinguisher (standard ABC) should give you piece of mind.
> Spend a couple of dollars more and get the kind with a pressure gauge on 
> the
> neck. That way you will know if it is good at a glance. Also, every few
> months take it and turn it upside down, sideways, etc., and tap it with
> something heavy to prevent the powder from caking up. Mount it where you 
> can
> get to it from the driver's seat!
>
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 06:13:43 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:13:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] E-bay project
In-Reply-To: <d52.5680d250.37de3483@aol.com>
References: <d52.5680d250.37de3483@aol.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909140513t2eaae3c1n8ba08e247e5811a7@mail.gmail.com>

Yes it does remind me of the Tiger but I would have bought a Tiger if that
was what I wanted. Poor little "Spridg-ama-call-it" didn't have a chance.
Lin

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 7:41 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com> wrote:

> I have heard of Big Healey's on w/w moving the tyres on the rims such  that
> inner tube valve was ripped out.
>
> In a message dated 13/09/2009 00:49:13 GMT Daylight Time,
> dlh2001 at comcast.net writes:
>
> I wonder  what a 454 would do to those little red spoke  wheels..
>
> Twa..twa...twa..twa..twang!
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 06:21:54 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:21:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone try this tip on vinyl?
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140908280950l7f4ca944nad29808ab1437ab8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430908280907y1a366717g4fea7ef4799d85ab@mail.gmail.com>
	<4333f8140908280950l7f4ca944nad29808ab1437ab8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909140521l276e121bl86d4cddb5b04d315@mail.gmail.com>

Hal, if you are going to try this let us all know how well it worked.
Lin

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, great idea.  All the "natural oils" are missing from FROG AYE's top
> and
> tonneau, guess I'll have to nip over to the chemist and pick up some
> petroleum jelly....
> Hal
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > List,
> > I was looking for info on using vaseline instead of dielectric grease on
> > connectors, yes I know I should just get the right stuff and not be
> cheap.
> > And I found this post on a cycle forums on using vaseline on vinyl.
> >
> > "I've used vaseline to restore vinyl parts like motorcycle seats and car
> > dashes for years.  Take your seat and cover with vaseline and let it sit
> in
> > the sun till well liquefied.  It wipes off to an as new finish and the
> > petroleum components supposedly replace some of the natural oils that
> have
> > oxidized out.  Wipe it off for an natural looking as new finish with none
> > of
> > the silicone slipperies and feel the flexibility in the material.  I also
> > use on the rubber bushings that sidecover studs plug into....."
> >
> > found here:
> > http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=19293.0
> >
> > Lin
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Sep 14 10:46:09 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:46:09 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
Message-ID: <c3b.5d33de56.37dfcd51@aol.com>

That's not actually that expensive.
 
I have a foam hand held and a foam plumbed in + a dry powder in the garage  
and a dry powder in the kitchen.
 
At some point I might see if funds will run to one of these fancy gas (not  
Halon or CO2) extinguishers as I'm not convinced foam will work.   
Incidentally I did see a foam fire-x discharged into a racing car the other day  
(during scrutineering) though it wasn't possible to really judge how effective  
it was because the car wasn't actually on fire.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 14/09/2009 02:57:45 GMT Daylight Time,  
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net writes:

$165

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Sep 14 13:40:33 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 14:40:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <c3b.5d33de56.37dfcd51@aol.com>
References: <c3b.5d33de56.37dfcd51@aol.com>
Message-ID: <0663D211-0709-4F52-8F22-8D5A37057D02@comcast.net>

hmm  usually that just succeeds in getting the driver really hot!


;-)

Lester


On Sep 14, 2009, at 11:46 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:

> That's not actually that expensive.
>
> I have a foam hand held and a foam plumbed in + a dry powder in the  
> garage
> and a dry powder in the kitchen.
>
> At some point I might see if funds will run to one of these fancy  
> gas (not
> Halon or CO2) extinguishers as I'm not convinced foam will work.
> Incidentally I did see a foam fire-x discharged into a racing car  
> the other day
> (during scrutineering) though it wasn't possible to really judge how  
> effective
> it was because the car wasn't actually on fire.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Sep 14 20:22:13 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:22:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone in the Bay area?
Message-ID: <6B73275CEE6D44C7AFABC1B90FAC3409@BASEMENTDELL>

Hi-

A good friend of mine is looking for his first Spridget and has found one in
the San Jose/Bay area.  Anyone from around there?

Thanks
Chris

cmanuel at wi.rr.com

66 MKIII

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Sep 14 21:03:59 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:03:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
References: <c3b.5d33de56.37dfcd51@aol.com>
	<0663D211-0709-4F52-8F22-8D5A37057D02@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <FF4C9D73CD674987B8558032DD44D499@blackbox2>

Fire extiguishers are a good thing, but let's talk about preventing fires in the first place.

The story about the fried car that Ryan and I looked at this past weekend was that the owner started it
in front of his house to let it idle and warm up.

He then walked into the garage to do something else. Then poof. 

So there is lesson one.  Don't leave the car running unattended. 

I suspect that there was either:
a) A old, dryed out, & cracked fuel line.
b) A loose hose clamp.
c) Debris in the float valve orfice, preventing the valve from closing fully.
d) Debris blocking the vent on top of the float bowls.

FWIW, I have personal and recent experience with item d).
What happens is that with the vent blocked, a bubble of air gets trapped above the float and prevents 
it from closing the valve.  Fuel at full pump pressure still gets to the jet.

An electric fuel pump is scary when you consider any of the above.  
Don't leave the ignition on with the pump running, without the engine running.
In fact it would be nice to have a circuit that would only energize the pump
if the motor is turning.

Be very suspicious if you encounter the "all of the sudden it's running really rich" symptom
or if you smell gas.

When is the last time you replaced the fuel line that connects your two SU's together?
You probably looked at it and saw that it was braided and maybe you felt secured by this.  Wrong.

Go out and get some fresh 1/4 fuel line.  New stainless braiding can be canibalized from the flex faucet hoses 
they sell at the home inprovement centers.  The rubber end caps can be salvaged from your old line or you can
fabricate new ones.

And don't use the modern hose clamps that cut into the line.   Use the original banded type.

It looks like this when your all done and you can hopefully rest a little easier:  
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/enginebay/IMGP1409-01.jpg

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Sep 14 21:12:47 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Millerls)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:12:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone in the Bay area?
In-Reply-To: <6B73275CEE6D44C7AFABC1B90FAC3409@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <6B73275CEE6D44C7AFABC1B90FAC3409@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <62572932-DF64-423F-A22A-6E1C13ED6E0D@ado13.com>

Yes but I am in Colorado at the time.

On Sep 14, 2009, at 8:22 PM, "Chris Manuel" <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:

> Hi-
>
> A good friend of mine is looking for his first Spridget and has  
> found one in
> the San Jose/Bay area.  Anyone from around there?
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
> cmanuel at wi.rr.com

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 14 21:42:52 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:42:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Weekend (Pt 1 of 3)
Message-ID: <700674.84162.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Still adjusting to normal life after a great race weekend and Road America at Elkhart Lake, WI with some special guests. 

Larry Daniels and Peter C. were crewing for me as always, but this time we were joined by Frank Clarici from Jersey and Jim Johnson, who did a partial Iron Butt on his BMW cycle 2000 miles round trip or so from Dodge City, KS (Jim is still on the road as I type). 

Thursday is setup day, which Jeff Porasik and I did while Frank arrived at O'Hare, met by David Lieb who loaned him the ex-Crash Ramsey five speed Bugeye for the weekend. Frank drove it 150 miles or so to Peter's, complaining a bit that it only seemed to run right over 80 MPH (there are worse problems!). Frank and Peter naturally spent the evening tuning it and getting it as good as possible for the trip the next day. If I had known about the "Clarici for Clunkers" program, I'd have loaned Frank my green Bugeye myself. Next time. 

pt 2 coming...

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 14 21:47:17 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:47:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Weekend (Pt 2 of 3)
Message-ID: <907852.86617.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Larry, Frank and Peter arrived Friday AM. I must comment that of all the cars at Elkhart, I don't think there was one more photographed than Larry's Austin A60 Ute. You can't help but smile. I had left a few things undone (clutch adjustment and bleed, tranny fluid change, brake pads...), but got them done Thursday night at the track. Frank looked remarkably bored at first, but once the first practice session was over there was plenty to do, capped by an engine tug and clutch change on Jeff's car. White Trash was running a little funky at first, with EGTs about 100F too high that were easily rectified by undoing all the dyno adjustments we made and going back to my initial settings. The car truly ran like a raped ape the rest of the weekend. The car needs to be restored and I will be prepping a new car, "White Trash Too", for next year, but me and that car wring more out of each other than we have a right to. 

Jim Johnson and his nephew Chris Streit, an amazingly talented Porsche racer who's driving I always admired when he ran with VSCDA before getting more competitive, rolled in separately mid-afternoon Friday. After the clutch pull, we all went to downtown Plymouth to DeOmally's pizza pub for a great meal and a lot of laughs. We finished at 52 Stafford, a 120 year old Irish Pub where I also happened to be bunking (free cookies and an Irish Pub downstairs; extra credit when a place plays to your favorite vices).

Saturday was a great day of racing and camaraderie, with Dave Woerpel, David Lieb, Scott Sprangers, Chris Manuel, Flounder, and many other paddock guests. We went downtown to the Vic Village for a few before heading to the Gathering on the Green concours show complete with Flounder and his big band playing smoking hot swing music, absolutely top drawer. I'll leave it to Jim to comment on the appropriateness of the venue we've got for the 50th. 

pt 3 coming

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 14 21:48:19 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:48:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Weekend (Pt 3 of 3)
Message-ID: <378330.67966.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Pt 3 of 3 

After the show, we staggered over to Siebken's, the legendary bar. We were having such a great time the waitress had to ask us to keep it down because she could not hear other patrons' orders in the restaurant. It's been a long time since I was truly part of the rif-raff at a bar to that extent.

Sunday was racing and camp pack-up for me, and at 2PM after racing I came down with some flu bug thing that floored me and made me leave a bit prematurely to go home. I rapidly started losing my voice (hold your applause) and actually had to pull over and nap for an hour on a 2.5 hour drive home while aspirin took effect. I'm only feeling human as I type now. Peter and Larry went for their traditional drive-home chowder and Frank, Jim and David wandered over to Sheboygan and back to Elkhart. There was some Midget 50th business today with Jim, Larry and Woerpel while Frank and Lieb Spridgeted back to O'Hare. 

Anyway, all in all a fantastic weekend. Thanks to all involved for a great time, Larry and Peter as usual, and especially to Frank and Jim for coming out. Jim, I thoroughly enjoyed getting to know Chris, and Jeff was EXTREMELY appreciative of his help on his car. I'm looking forward to more weekends like it in the future.

Safety faster than ever,
Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 14 22:00:18 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:00:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <FF4C9D73CD674987B8558032DD44D499@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <153166.91680.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
> In fact it would be nice to have a circuit that would only
> energize the pump
> if the motor is turning.

I have a fuel pump toggle switch on one of my cars. 

Ron

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Tue Sep 15 00:15:01 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 23:15:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?
Message-ID: <d49b03130909142315o360f3c27xda45c576c36cffba@mail.gmail.com>

Not a Spridget, but...






 *ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?*




*Presenting the New Mercedes Benz SCL600
*
*

*

*
Pretty, isn't it? *
*
*
*
So? *
*
What's different about this car? *


*
Not this....
*
*
?
*
*



????*
*
Here is the real difference*
*



*
*
WHOA !*
*
No Steering Wheel *
*
No Pedals either
*
*


*
*
You drive this car with a joystick *
*
Do you think that you *
*
Can drive with a joystick? *
*
Your kids and grand kids can.

*
*
The influence of video games in our lives *
*
Has really arrived, wouldn't you say? *
*
But there is more !
*
*
The SCARY THOUGHT is: *
*
NOW a 3-YEAR-OLD can STEAL your car *
*
"AND DRIVE IT BETTER THAN YOU CAN !"*

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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 05:36:35 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 06:36:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <153166.91680.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <FF4C9D73CD674987B8558032DD44D499@blackbox2>
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Message-ID: <402188520909150436i7c140a3ake39cde0d06dd16c3@mail.gmail.com>

Many cars have an oil pressure switch that shuts off the pump in the
absence of oil pressure. In a Spridget, you could put one on a tee at
the OP takeoff and add a momentary toggle switch to allow starting the
car. Not hard to do.
David L

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep 15 06:30:02 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 05:30:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC -  Roadhouse star Patrick Swayze dies
Message-ID: <FB5907761F444C5DA54C46BFC3B90FE9@spider>

LOS ANGELES - Patrick Swayze personified a particular kind of masculine
grace both on and off screen, from his roles in films like "Dirty Dancing"
and "Ghost" to the way he carried himself in his long fight with pancreatic
cancer. Swayze died from the illness on Monday in Los Angeles, his publicist
said. He was 57.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 15 07:53:33 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:53:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Weekend (Pt 3 of 3)
In-Reply-To: <378330.67966.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <378330.67966.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <D3C46BA529D34D128AF4BCFBAFF72733@HomePC>

Ron's modesty prevents him from mentioning that he, once again, knocked a 
huge chunk of time off of his track best.  Unbelievable how he can keep on 
doing that.


LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:48 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Weekend (Pt 3 of 3)

> Pt 3 of 3
>
> After the show, we staggered over to Siebken's, the legendary bar. We were 
> having such a great time the waitress had to ask us to keep it down 
> because she could not hear other patrons' orders in the restaurant. It's 
> been a long time since I was truly part of the rif-raff at a bar to that 
> extent.
>
> Sunday was racing and camp pack-up for me, and at 2PM after racing I came 
> down with some flu bug thing that floored me and made me leave a bit 
> prematurely to go home. I rapidly started losing my voice (hold your 
> applause) and actually had to pull over and nap for an hour on a 2.5 hour 
> drive home while aspirin took effect. I'm only feeling human as I type 
> now. Peter and Larry went for their traditional drive-home chowder and 
> Frank, Jim and David wandered over to Sheboygan and back to Elkhart. There 
> was some Midget 50th business today with Jim, Larry and Woerpel while 
> Frank and Lieb Spridgeted back to O'Hare.
>
> Anyway, all in all a fantastic weekend. Thanks to all involved for a great 
> time, Larry and Peter as usual, and especially to Frank and Jim for coming 
> out. Jim, I thoroughly enjoyed getting to know Chris, and Jeff was 
> EXTREMELY appreciative of his help on his car. I'm looking forward to more 
> weekends like it in the future.
>
> Safety faster than ever,
> Ron
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 08:00:07 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:00:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <402188520909150436i7c140a3ake39cde0d06dd16c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF4C9D73CD674987B8558032DD44D499@blackbox2>
	<153166.91680.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188520909150436i7c140a3ake39cde0d06dd16c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909150700j7f936558m360671fc5dd5ea7d@mail.gmail.com>

> Many cars have an oil pressure switch that shuts off the pump in the
> absence of oil pressure. In a Spridget, you could put one on a tee at
> the OP takeoff and add a momentary toggle switch to allow starting the
> car. Not hard to do.

Instead of a momentary toggle why not take power from the starter
solenoid that's only energized when starting?

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 08:31:45 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:31:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909150700j7f936558m360671fc5dd5ea7d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF4C9D73CD674987B8558032DD44D499@blackbox2>
	<153166.91680.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188520909150436i7c140a3ake39cde0d06dd16c3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0909150700j7f936558m360671fc5dd5ea7d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909150731r29f03273s5a876f6c4e377983@mail.gmail.com>

> Instead of a momentary toggle why not take power from the starter
> solenoid that's only energized when starting?

Because my Bugeye has no such line?
David L

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 09:37:32 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:37:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <402188520909150731r29f03273s5a876f6c4e377983@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF4C9D73CD674987B8558032DD44D499@blackbox2>
	<153166.91680.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188520909150436i7c140a3ake39cde0d06dd16c3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0909150700j7f936558m360671fc5dd5ea7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909150731r29f03273s5a876f6c4e377983@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909150837x275d7737t663745d72e14c267@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:31 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Instead of a momentary toggle why not take power from the starter
>> solenoid that's only energized when starting?
>
> Because my Bugeye has no such line?
> David L

Well I can't think of any better reason not to do that then!  :-)

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 09:48:52 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:48:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909150837x275d7737t663745d72e14c267@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF4C9D73CD674987B8558032DD44D499@blackbox2>
	<153166.91680.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188520909150436i7c140a3ake39cde0d06dd16c3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0909150700j7f936558m360671fc5dd5ea7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909150731r29f03273s5a876f6c4e377983@mail.gmail.com>
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>>> Instead of a momentary toggle why not take power from the starter
>>> solenoid that's only energized when starting?

>> Because my Bugeye has no such line?
>> David L

> Well I can't think of any better reason not to do that then!  :-)

OTOH, I should use my Bugeye starter switch to trigger a later
solenoid, then I would have that line as well as reducing the load on
that pull-starter switch. Perhaps that line should be used to trigger
a relay controlling everything on the white circuit as that would stop
the engine much sooner than the loss of the fuel pump.
David L

From millerls at ado13.com  Tue Sep 15 09:51:16 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Millerls)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:51:16 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <402188520909150731r29f03273s5a876f6c4e377983@mail.gmail.com>
References: <FF4C9D73CD674987B8558032DD44D499@blackbox2>
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	<402188520909150436i7c140a3ake39cde0d06dd16c3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0909150700j7f936558m360671fc5dd5ea7d@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <7E3D68CC-8B14-4713-B060-BEF4A78F9549@ado13.com>

How do you activate the starter?


On Sep 15, 2009, at 8:31 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Instead of a momentary toggle why not take power from the starter
>> solenoid that's only energized when starting?
>
> Because my Bugeye has no

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 15 10:01:41 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:01:41 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
Message-ID: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>

It's on my list of things to do, and has been for a while - the reason for  
having one is not to directly prevent a fire as such but rather to switch 
off  the fuel pump in the event of an accident (assuming the engine stops in 
the  accident) and prevent a pool of petrol appearing which may become the  
fire.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 15/09/2009 13:01:06 GMT Daylight Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

Many  cars have an oil pressure switch that shuts off the pump in the
absence of  oil pressure. In a Spridget, you could put one on a tee at
the OP takeoff  and add a momentary toggle switch to allow starting the
car. Not hard to  do.
David L

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 15 10:02:26 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:02:26 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
Message-ID: <c21.576a2163.37e11492@aol.com>

Probably what some modern cars do?
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 15/09/2009 15:18:17 GMT Daylight Time,  
tr3.4.me at gmail.com writes:

Instead  of a momentary toggle why not take power from the starter
solenoid that's  only energized when starting?

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 15 10:09:11 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:09:11 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Weekend (Pt 3 of 3)
Message-ID: <d5a.50bc0bf0.37e11627@aol.com>

Sorry to have missed this weekend.  I had to make do with 3 days at a  
sunny Silverstone and watch THE Bobby Rahal drive a BDG engined Lola T290 to  
victory in the 60 min long Classic Endurance race.  Did I mention most of  the 
competitors were French though there some Germans with a DeThomaso Mangusta 
 and some others with a Porsche 935.  Not forgetting the Howmet car turbine 
 racer.  
 
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 15/09/2009 15:17:55 GMT Daylight Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

Ron's  modesty prevents him from mentioning that he, once again, knocked a 
huge  chunk of time off of his track best.  Unbelievable how he can keep on 
 
doing that.


LAD

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Sep 15 10:30:19 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:30:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <7E3D68CC-8B14-4713-B060-BEF4A78F9549@ado13.com>
References: <FF4C9D73CD674987B8558032DD44D499@blackbox2>
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	<402188520909150436i7c140a3ake39cde0d06dd16c3@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0909150700j7f936558m360671fc5dd5ea7d@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909150731r29f03273s5a876f6c4e377983@mail.gmail.com>
	<7E3D68CC-8B14-4713-B060-BEF4A78F9549@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <9D938BF4-86BA-4CFD-B669-A1BF224D21A3@comcast.net>

Pull on the cable... no solenoid but the cable does connect to the  
switch in the engine compartment but it's just a switch..

Lester


On Sep 15, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Millerls wrote:

> How do you activate the starter?
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2009, at 8:31 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Instead of a momentary toggle why not take power from the starter
>>> solenoid that's only energized when starting?
>>
>> Because my Bugeye has no
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From John.Deikis at va.gov  Tue Sep 15 10:42:16 2009
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:42:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Guitar
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029222DB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Spridgets, cats, shotguns, guitars, airplanes.  No LBC, but this covers
2 out of 5.

I wish I had the ability and resources to do this when I get pissed.



 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo>



JohnD
--
'If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure.'      - George W. Bush

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep 15 11:05:03 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:05:03 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>

How about an inertia switch?  B's and other cars had them.
moss:
145-755
$108.65
INERTIA SWITCH, fuel cut-off



> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
>
> It's on my list of things to do, and has been for a while - the reason for
> having one is not to directly prevent a fire as such but rather to switch
> off the fuel pump in the event of an accident (assuming the engine stops in
> the accident) and prevent a pool of petrol appearing which may become the
> fire.
>
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>
> In a message dated 15/09/2009 13:01:06 GMT Daylight Time,
> 72spridget at gmail.com writes:
>
> Many cars have an oil pressure switch that shuts off the pump in the
> absence of oil pressure. In a Spridget, you could put one on a tee at
> the OP takeoff and add a momentary toggle switch to allow starting the
> car. Not hard to do.

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue Sep 15 11:16:48 2009
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:16:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?
In-Reply-To: <mailman.6056.1253029887.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.6056.1253029887.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4AAFCC00.6030605@comcast.net>

rrengineer wrote:
> You drive this car with a joystick *
> *
> The influence of video games in our lives *

Nah.  A joystick is just the evolution of a tiller, which has been around
since some guy named da Vinci in 1478. It even had programmable steering.
Yeah, *that* da Vinci.  Benz used one in 1886.

<http://www.3wheelers.com/leonardo.htmlhttp://www.3wheelers.com/leonardo.html>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Benz_Patent_Motorwagen_1886_(Replica).jpg>

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 15 11:34:14 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:34:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Broken Guitar
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA94029222DB@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <C6D51E27.184DF%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

By law, they now have to let you carry it on and put it in the over-head.
It's a far cry from the Eighties when they'd smash it for sport and then
refuse to cover it. BTW, that song sucks.
BZ

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 15 11:44:50 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:44:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?
In-Reply-To: <4AAFCC00.6030605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <73494.74032.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Didn't Ed Roth do a kustom with joystick steering too?  Seems like it was one
of his with the bubble tops he made in the pizza oven back in late 50's/ early
60's - maybe Mysterion or Beatnik Bandit?
 - David

--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 12:16 PM


rrengineer wrote:
> You drive this car with a joystick *
> *
> The influence of video games in our lives *

Nah.  A joystick is just the evolution of a tiller, which has been around
since some guy named da Vinci in 1478. It even had programmable steering.
Yeah, *that* da Vinci.  Benz used one in 1886.

<http://www.3wheelers.com/leonardo.htmlhttp://www.3wheelers.com/leonardo.html
>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Benz_Patent_Motorwagen_1886_(Replica).jpg>

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Sep 15 11:51:48 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:51:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?
In-Reply-To: <4AAFCC00.6030605@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.6056.1253029887.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4AAFCC00.6030605@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <022201ca362d$32cffc40$1801010a@xp>

Boy I'll say.  Notice the drip pan under the Benz...

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[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kent McLean
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:17 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?

rrengineer wrote:
> You drive this car with a joystick *
> *
> The influence of video games in our lives *

Nah.  A joystick is just the evolution of a tiller, which has been around
since some guy named da Vinci in 1478. It even had programmable steering.
Yeah, *that* da Vinci.  Benz used one in 1886.

<http://www.3wheelers.com/leonardo.htmlhttp://www.3wheelers.com/leonardo.htm
l>
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Benz_Patent_Motorwagen_1886_(Replica).jpg
>

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 19:31:46 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:31:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Mini 13" wood steering wheel & hub ........
Message-ID: <205cef430909151831s366ca44crd752e58b8eaa6693@mail.gmail.com>

List I looked up the email from the previous owner of my steering wheel &
hub and it came off a 1961 Morris Mini and the hub does not fit the Sprite.
If I can't locate a hub I'll sell it for what I paid $75. If anyone knows a
good Morris Mini forum I can post it on let me know. I sent out several
emails to companies of this wheel "Personal" brand and no one sells the hub.
I have feelers in other locations and a bid on another 13" wheel with hub
but that is not wooden. I don't like the 14" and 15" is out of the question.
Any tips on another 13" with hub attached let me know.
Lin
PS I can send picts if anyone wants it.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 15 19:57:39 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:57:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car
Message-ID: <018501ca3671$123a3790$36aea6b0$@net>

This, it would seem, would certainly kill any long-term restoration project.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article6836371.ece 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 20:26:03 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:26:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car
In-Reply-To: <018501ca3671$123a3790$36aea6b0$@net>
References: <018501ca3671$123a3790$36aea6b0$@net>
Message-ID: <402188520909151926h51403602x75172f32ea6b857f@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> This, it would seem, would certainly kill any long-term restoration project.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article6836371.ece

Not at all. It merely means that you would want the SORN in place.
David L

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 20:46:12 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:46:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car
In-Reply-To: <018501ca3671$123a3790$36aea6b0$@net>
References: <018501ca3671$123a3790$36aea6b0$@net>
Message-ID: <441250190909151946t34c63ff7hd64d36b347242ebc@mail.gmail.com>

Not quite.  The article states

Currently it is only an offence to drive without insurance, but under a
scheme announced in January drivers must ensure that their cars are covered
at all times unless they are unused and kept off the road, in which case
they must register them as such to the DVLA.

So any long term could survive, but it looks like the law could catch some
people who are not that careful.

-g


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:

> This, it would seem, would certainly kill any long-term restoration
> project.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article6836371.ece
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Sep 15 20:56:13 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:56:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>

The best way to go for the inertia switch is to just get a Ford unit from  
the scrap yard as indicated by Dawson & Son in their "Sprite Safety PDF".

The oil pressure switch idea is intriguing. More convienent would be a sense/relay circuit that 
triggers off of the low side of the ignition coil.

What I would really like is an electric fuel pump that is quiet.   It believe Carter makes a
rotary vane pump, but it seems sort of an overkill for a Spridget. I'm not even sure if they are
less noisy than the pulse units.

I remember a long time ago I saw in one of the surplus catalogs a nice little OEM rotary fuel
pump that would have been ideal for the Sprite.  I kick myself for not buying one or two when I had the 
chance. 

Still worried as to how many folks are running the original fuel line between there SU's  
It's like a couple hundred powder kegs just waiting to go off...   

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 21:45:15 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:45:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909152045o6164f893gaaf633bbe79bd60c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
> What I would really like is an electric fuel pump that is quiet.

Mine apparently only makes noise when I first begin to start the car
... but maybe that's due to the glasspack effect.  ;-)


Where can I find a copy of the mentioned Dawson & Son "Sprite Safety PDF"?

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 22:20:13 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 21:20:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>

Do you have a URL for this .pdf?
hal

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> The best way to go for the inertia switch is to just get a Ford unit from
>  the scrap yard as indicated by Dawson & Son in their "Sprite Safety PDF".
>
> The oil pressure switch idea is intriguing. More convienent would be a
> sense/relay circuit that triggers off of the low side of the ignition coil.
>
> What I would really like is an electric fuel pump that is quiet.   It
> believe Carter makes a
> rotary vane pump, but it seems sort of an overkill for a Spridget. I'm not
> even sure if they are
> less noisy than the pulse units.
>
> I remember a long time ago I saw in one of the surplus catalogs a nice
> little OEM rotary fuel
> pump that would have been ideal for the Sprite.  I kick myself for not
> buying one or two when I had the chance.
> Still worried as to how many folks are running the original fuel line
> between there SU's  It's like a couple hundred powder kegs just waiting to
> go off...   _______________________________________________
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 16 01:40:17 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (mdrowe at optonline.net)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:40:17 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Mountains of Oahu
Message-ID: <e66e8d066ccc.4ab09661@optonline.net>

Tomarrow we return from two weeks in HI.  Most of the time has been taken up
with dealing with my mother-in-law's medical problems, visiting with her
old-lady friends, repairing things around the house, including a complete
rebuild of a toilet, picking up ten 40 gal bags of mango leaves, etc.  But
today we spent two hours hiking in the mountains high above Honolulu.  Not
only was the weather perfect and the view of the valleys of Honolulu
spectacular, but also it is strawberry guava (wai wi) season and the lower
part of the trail was lined on both sides with ripe fruit.  We picked and ate
them casually as we walked along.  It was almost worth raking all those
leaves, sort of.

We did see an apparently flawless MG TD in primrose yellow on the drive up the
hill, the only LBC we saw the whole time.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 04:27:07 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:27:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Mountains of Oahu
In-Reply-To: <e66e8d066ccc.4ab09661@optonline.net>
References: <e66e8d066ccc.4ab09661@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430909160327v5cf05a44qf471f60c9998b27a@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds cool Michael, how big are those Mango leaves?
Lin

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:40 AM, <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> Tomarrow we return from two weeks in HI.  Most of the time has been taken
> up
> with dealing with my mother-in-law's medical problems, visiting with her
> old-lady friends, repairing things around the house, including a complete
> rebuild of a toilet, picking up ten 40 gal bags of mango leaves, etc.  But
> today we spent two hours hiking in the mountains high above Honolulu.  Not
> only was the weather perfect and the view of the valleys of Honolulu
> spectacular, but also it is strawberry guava (wai wi) season and the lower
> part of the trail was lined on both sides with ripe fruit.  We picked and
> ate
> them casually as we walked along.  It was almost worth raking all those
> leaves, sort of.
>
> We did see an apparently flawless MG TD in primrose yellow on the drive up
> the
> hill, the only LBC we saw the whole time.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 05:41:03 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:41:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
	<4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>

> More convienent would be a sense/relay circuit that triggers off of the low side of the ignition coil.

But that ignores the entire purpose of shutting off the supply of fuel
in the event of a roll-over accident or some such. The concept being
that there has been a catastrophic situation, the fuel pump is still
running because the key is on, potentially supplying fuel to a fire or
inviting a fire by pumping fuel into a hot engine compartment. In
effect, the stock arrangement of the electric pump is that it is
triggered by the low side of the ignition coil ;-)
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 05:42:35 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:42:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Mountains of Oahu
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909160327v5cf05a44qf471f60c9998b27a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e66e8d066ccc.4ab09661@optonline.net>
	<205cef430909160327v5cf05a44qf471f60c9998b27a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909160442x19abb202t5a05775cef2ffc48@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 5:27 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds cool Michael, how big are those Mango leaves?

About the size of oak leaves. Raked many of them in my youth...
David L

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Sep 16 06:58:02 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:58:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Mountains of Oahu
In-Reply-To: <e66e8d066ccc.4ab09661@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <1835926694.3020951253105882300.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

Only one LBC till you move back right? then there will be 3.
----- Original Message -----
From: mdrowe at optonline.net
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:40:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Mountains of Oahu

Tomarrow we return from two weeks in HI. B Most of the time has been taken up
with dealing with my mother-in-law's medical problems, visiting with her
old-lady friends, repairing things around the house, including a complete
rebuild of a toilet, picking up ten 40 gal bags of mango leaves, etc. B But
today we spent two hours hiking in the mountains high above Honolulu. B Not
only was the weather perfect and the view of the valleys of Honolulu
spectacular, but also it is strawberry guava (wai wi) season and the lower
part of the trail was lined on both sides with ripe fruit. B We picked and ate
them casually as we walked along. B It was almost worth raking all those
leaves, sort of.

We did see an apparently flawless MG TD in primrose yellow on the drive up the
hill, the only LBC we saw the whole time.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From mikey at b2systems.com  Wed Sep 16 11:19:52 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:19:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
	<4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1253121592.4008.96.camel@WebBrowser>

On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 06:41 -0500, David Lieb wrote:
> > More convienent would be a sense/relay circuit that triggers off of the low side of the ignition coil.
> 
> But that ignores the entire purpose of shutting off the supply of fuel
> in the event of a roll-over accident or some such. The concept being
> that there has been a catastrophic situation, the fuel pump is still

 agreed that the ignition coil is a bad idea in case of a crash where
you are unconscious, my wifes Alfa's had inertia switches and they seems
to work well but I have been told they require some planning as to their
location, I know they have to be vertical, not sure what else.

 My Dino has a oil pressure sensor, seems to me that is the best, no oil
pressure no fuel.   Its just one relay and sending unit, when you first
turn on the ignition the fuel pump is energized and you can fill the
carb bowls with fuel but after the ignition has been on, the instant you
lose oil pressure the fuel pump turns off.

 I like the system so much that I am going to put in my Singer when it
gets on the road.  Its just one relay, one sending unit and 2 wires, the
sending unit is the hardest part to install on spridget motor, you have
to put a T in the oil pressure sending unit or get oil pressure
somewhere else, for me I will just put a T in there.

	mike

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep 16 11:50:59 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:50:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC.  alternative o.s.
Message-ID: <2308E7FFFEA049889C4D957471E02F96@spider>

Who had the alternative operating system that would save me the pains of
dealing with Windows specific viruses?  .bill in oregon

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 12:16:41 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:16:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Elkhart Lake Weekend (Pt 2 of 3)
In-Reply-To: <907852.86617.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <907852.86617.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909161116i87f2dd3ub1e43fef04388569@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
I'll leave it to Jim to comment on the appropriateness of the venue we've
got for the 50th.
</snip>

I'll just say that we couldn't ask for a better place for the Midget 50th!
On Monday Larry had arranged visits with the Sheriff, Elkhart Lake Police,
CVB, Chamber of Commerce, Victorian Village, Siebkens, and Road America.
>From which it was obvious that:

You are going to LOVE the hotel with leisurely evening drinks at the Tiki
Bar or across the street at the world renown Seibkens Tavern. If we overflow
the Victorian Village (which we may well do!) there are great rooms at
Siebkens and even the Osthoff. Right between Siebkens and the Victorian
Village is the "Hard Left" turn of the original Elkhart Lake corner!
Pictures abound of the earliest races which featured MG Midgets (T series,
of course!) but you can be sure plenty of 61-79 midgets have screeched tires
around that corner too!

There is a lot to do for wives!  Shopping, museums, historic sites - you
name it!  Even a day at the beach is only 15 miles away at Sheboygan! The
Midget 50th cheeseheads are planning some extra fun for wives and
significant others.

This was my first visit to Road America and it is a world class facility!
The autocross at the motorplex is going to be especially challenging and our
own Ron Soave will be working with the track officials to arrange a safety
car led "Track Tour" for everyone. We found a great caterer for lunch and
dinner at the track.

There is a great banquet facility at the Victorian Village where breakfast
is included with your room. We looked at the rooms and they have all
recently been remodeled and are beautifully done. We'll have space on the
green to display a few stunning examples of President's Midgets as well as
space for vendors and swap meet stuff.

There are several parking areas available around the hotel and we will have
a really great 3 bedroom hospitality suite in the main building with a huge
kitchen, dining area and living room and an even bigger veranda all
overlooking the beautiful lake below.

There are lots of trees, lots of beautiful driving roads, lots of history
and a really dedicated crew of cheeseheads putting it all together for you!
This is truly going to be the best Spridget event of all times!!  We hope to
have John Sprinzel, Daniel Stapleton, and perhaps a few other luminaries
come to talk and rub elbows with.

Gawd!!  I sound like a "Free Credit Report Dot Com" commercial!!

--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From smarc at smarc.net  Wed Sep 16 12:34:16 2009
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:34:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?
In-Reply-To: <d49b03130909142315o360f3c27xda45c576c36cffba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03130909142315o360f3c27xda45c576c36cffba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB12FA8.9080804@smarc.net>

http://www.snopes.com/photos/automobiles/newmercedes.asp


rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote:
> Not a Spridget, but...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  *ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?*
>
>
>
>
> *Presenting the New Mercedes Benz SCL600
> *
> *
>
> *
>
> *
> Pretty, isn't it? *
> *
> *
> *
> So? *
> *
> What's different about this car? *
>
>
> *
> Not this....
> *
> *
> ?
> *
> *
>
>
>
> ????*
> *
> Here is the real difference*
> *
>
>
>
> *
> *
> WHOA !*
> *
> No Steering Wheel *
> *
> No Pedals either
> *
> *
>
>
> *
> *
> You drive this car with a joystick *
> *
> Do you think that you *
> *
> Can drive with a joystick? *
> *
> Your kids and grand kids can.
>
> *
> *
> The influence of video games in our lives *
> *
> Has really arrived, wouldn't you say? *
> *
> But there is more !
> *
> *
> The SCARY THOUGHT is: *
> *
> NOW a 3-YEAR-OLD can STEAL your car *
> *
> "AND DRIVE IT BETTER THAN YOU CAN !"*
>
>   

-- 

Marc

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 12:37:00 2009
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:37:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC.  alternative o.s.
In-Reply-To: <2308E7FFFEA049889C4D957471E02F96@spider>
Message-ID: <785507.92796.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

APPLE
The newest Mac OS has just been released.

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:




Who had the alternative operating system that would save me the pains of
dealing with Windows specific viruses?  .bill in oregon

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 12:37:26 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:37:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC. alternative o.s.
In-Reply-To: <2308E7FFFEA049889C4D957471E02F96@spider>
References: <2308E7FFFEA049889C4D957471E02F96@spider>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909161137w204604deree7d6f15d5a036cf@mail.gmail.com>

It would be called Linux.

I like Red Hat Enterprise, but there are many others such as Ubuntu.....
And it's FREE

http://www.redhat.com/

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:50 AM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Who had the alternative operating system that would save me the pains of
> dealing with Windows specific viruses?  .bill in oregon
>

--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From redmidget72 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 12:42:35 2009
From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:42:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car
In-Reply-To: <018501ca3671$123a3790$36aea6b0$@net>
Message-ID: <377695.67544.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

O.M.F.G.!  Don't let the Obama administration get any ideas from this!  We
would see another stimuls package where the USG pays for auto insurance for
those who can't aford it.  This means we would all pay for someone elses auto
insurance (besides our kids, spouses, and cats).

--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:



This, it would seem, would certainly kill any long-term restoration project.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article6836371.ece

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 12:56:12 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:56:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America
Message-ID: <8549.48062.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Are any list members going to the SCCA runoffs? 
John

From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Sep 16 13:14:34 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:14:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] A nice 67 Sprite for sale in LA (the state)
Message-ID: <20090916121476.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1230719

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 13:22:34 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:22:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC. alternative o.s.
In-Reply-To: <785507.92796.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <2308E7FFFEA049889C4D957471E02F96@spider>
	<785507.92796.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909161222q255b8babkcd5b9013994e016c@mail.gmail.com>

Not gonna help him if he doesn't have an Apple.....

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Red Midget <redmidget72 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> APPLE
> The newest Mac OS has just been released.
>
> --- On Wed, 9/16/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com <corvallis at peoplepc.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Who had the alternative operating system that would save me the pains of
> dealing with Windows specific viruses?  .bill in oregon
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Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 13:57:42 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:57:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America
In-Reply-To: <8549.48062.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <390568.83260.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Planning on Saturday, the 28th. Have a close ratio straight cut gearbox I may
sell if you need it for your Spridget!

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Road America
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 1:56 PM
> Are any list members going to the
> SCCA runoffs?
> John
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Sep 16 14:22:33 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:22:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Alternative O.S.
Message-ID: <4AB14909.26202.1DE3E8@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I use both windows and Linux on this machine (dual boot)..

I have Ubuntu Linux installed on a second machine and SuseLinux on a 
third..

They are both good..  IMHO Ubuntu has the easiest install and the 
update process is excellent..

There are many other Linux'es (?) and just as many opinions..

NFI ertc....

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed Sep 16 15:00:27 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:00:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?
In-Reply-To: <4AB12FA8.9080804@smarc.net>
References: <d49b03130909142315o360f3c27xda45c576c36cffba@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB12FA8.9080804@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <d49b03130909161400g5113c549h641c384ebaa4bd94@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I never said it was on the showroom floors.
Mike

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Marc <smarc at smarc.net> wrote:

> http://www.snopes.com/photos/automobiles/newmercedes.asp
>
>
> rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote:
>
>> Not a Spridget, but...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  *ARE YOU TOO OLD TO DRIVE THIS CAR?*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Presenting the New Mercedes Benz SCL600
>> *
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>> Pretty, isn't it? *
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> So? *
>> *
>> What's different about this car? *
>>
>>
>> *
>> Not this....
>> *
>> *
>> ?
>> *
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> ????*
>> *
>> Here is the real difference*
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>> *
>> WHOA !*
>> *
>> No Steering Wheel *
>> *
>> No Pedals either
>> *
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>> *
>> You drive this car with a joystick *
>> *
>> Do you think that you *
>> *
>> Can drive with a joystick? *
>> *
>> Your kids and grand kids can.
>>
>> *
>> *
>> The influence of video games in our lives *
>> *
>> Has really arrived, wouldn't you say? *
>> *
>> But there is more !
>> *
>> *
>> The SCARY THOUGHT is: *
>> *
>> NOW a 3-YEAR-OLD can STEAL your car *
>> *
>> "AND DRIVE IT BETTER THAN YOU CAN !"*
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Marc

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Sep 16 15:08:07 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:08:07 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car
References: <377695.67544.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <34EC990C91E54637BC1BFD72B631293E@dell330>

I must admit to liking the idea of a basic injury insurance cover on the 
cost of fuel which can be privately topped up with collision damage 
insurance.  One UK Gov. estimate released this week suggested that 20% of UK 
road going vehicles were not insured.  The payouts for those now accounts 
for an additional 25% of insurance cost.  You may well find what you are 
paying now is dearer than what it would be than using the fuel for insurance 
system.

Guy R Day




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Red Midget" <redmidget72 at yahoo.com>
To: "'Spridget list'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Robert Evans" 
<b-evans at earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car


> O.M.F.G.!  Don't let the Obama administration get any ideas from this!  We
> would see another stimuls package where the USG pays for auto insurance 
> for
> those who can't aford it.  This means we would all pay for someone elses 
> auto
> insurance (besides our kids, spouses, and cats).
>
> --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> This, it would seem, would certainly kill any long-term restoration 
> project.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article6836371.ece
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 15:47:27 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:47:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] More Barn Finds or Bugeyes
Message-ID: <37dc82d40909161447v14d31ceal1d9d0c5e3b519b23@mail.gmail.com>

>From Dave Silberkleit

Interesting. .  I think he does this for side income.

Anyhow. . thought I would pass these along just for the heck of it.

Kirk

--------------------------------------------------------------

Here's another Bugeye "Barnfind" for anyone looking for a great project car!
1960 Bugeye AN5L 33972 has been sitting in a workshop since 1975 with just
55k original miles. Watch the video below and you'll see details of this
Iris blue car... completely unmolested-no bodywork has been done ever-no
rust repair-no bondo-no dent repair-just an unmolested car awaiting
restoration. The floor is rusty on one the driver's side but not bad on the
passenger side. Engine turns but will probably need to be rebuilt. Offered
for $2995 plus towing for delivery.

Slideshow
http://s1013.photobucket.com/albums/af255/1bugeyeguy/33872%20%201960%20bugeye/?albumview=slideshow

Video walk-around
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz5OpTMCALQ

Also, check out this Royal Blue Metallic Bugeye for sale:

http://s1013.photobucket.com/albums/af255/1bugeyeguy/58%20Bugeye%20an5L2150/?albumview=slideshow

Other inventory for sale:
Gorgeous 58 TR3A
Stunning 53 MGTD
Wonderful 56 MGA

I''ll be at the British Invasion in Stowe VT this weekend with the MGA in
the car corral... and at the car corral at the Madison CT Jaguar Club show
on Saturday 9/26. Stop by and say hello!

Best,

David Silberkleit
Master Certified Career and Life Coach Since 1998
203 488 9188
 http://www.empowercoach.com

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 16 15:55:30 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:55:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
	<4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB15ED2.7090000@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
>> More convienent would be a sense/relay circuit that triggers off of the low side of the ignition coil.
>>     
>
> But that ignores the entire purpose of shutting off the supply of fuel
> in the event of a roll-over accident or some such.
Simple pin-ball tilt mechanism.
A ball hanging in a loop. TILT
Or a mercury switch from an old thermostat.
That will give you some roll but shut off depending on how you place it.
Everybody knows I hate relays ;)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 16 16:05:42 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:05:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car
In-Reply-To: <34EC990C91E54637BC1BFD72B631293E@dell330>
References: <377695.67544.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<34EC990C91E54637BC1BFD72B631293E@dell330>
Message-ID: <024101ca3719$d596a450$80c3ecf0$@net>

Guy...

I am all in favor of seizing cars that scofflaws drive on the highway
without insurance. If for no other reason than their contempt for others,
they need a stiff sentence, including time in custody!  Perhaps my view is
colored by the fact that there have been four accidents in our family that
were caused by uninsured drivers who did not possess a driver's license.
Nothing happened to them, and they soon vamoosed across the border back to
Mexico.

The California Highway Patrol has estimated that fully one-half of those
vehicles on the road today are driven by people who have neither insurance
or a driver's license!  Government must first do something about these
fools.

What I fear is an over-reaching Government that seeks to punish those people
whose cars are on private property while undergoing restoration!



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Guy R Day
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:08 PM
To: Red Midget; 'Spridget list'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car

I must admit to liking the idea of a basic injury insurance cover on the 
cost of fuel which can be privately topped up with collision damage 
insurance.  One UK Gov. estimate released this week suggested that 20% of UK

road going vehicles were not insured.  The payouts for those now accounts 
for an additional 25% of insurance cost.  You may well find what you are 
paying now is dearer than what it would be than using the fuel for insurance

system.

Guy R Day




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Red Midget" <redmidget72 at yahoo.com>
To: "'Spridget list'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Robert Evans" 
<b-evans at earthlink.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car


> O.M.F.G.!  Don't let the Obama administration get any ideas from this!  We
> would see another stimuls package where the USG pays for auto insurance 
> for
> those who can't aford it.  This means we would all pay for someone elses 
> auto
> insurance (besides our kids, spouses, and cats).
>
> --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> This, it would seem, would certainly kill any long-term restoration 
> project.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article6836371.ece
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Sep 16 16:43:17 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:43:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car
In-Reply-To: <024101ca3719$d596a450$80c3ecf0$@net>
References: <377695.67544.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com><34EC990C91E54637BC1BFD72B631293E@dell330>
	<024101ca3719$d596a450$80c3ecf0$@net>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP66D7CDF9FC42429FEC92DBB8E20@phx.gbl>

I think that the original article was primarily talking about unregistered
cars parked on the street.  ( no laneway. No garage )

I have 2 parts cars in my garage.  Both are registered to me as unfit.
Other than the initial registration, there is no cost.



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans


What I fear is an over-reaching Government that seeks to punish those people
whose cars are on private property while undergoing restoration!



-----Original Message-----
>
> --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> This, it would seem, would certainly kill any long-term restoration 
> project.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article6836371.ece

From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Sep 16 16:44:33 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:44:33 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car
References: <377695.67544.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<34EC990C91E54637BC1BFD72B631293E@dell330>
	<024101ca3719$d596a450$80c3ecf0$@net>
Message-ID: <A5E8614334EE4E67BF25BC2C79EB9145@dell330>

Yeah,  My brother-in-law lives out in South Africa and he is now blind and 
has to live in a wheel chair after an uninsured 'bakky' (bus/taxi type of 
vehicle) decided it would do a 'U' turn across a freeway as he was biking 
along.  The coloured driving the bakky was arrested but after release he 
just melted into one of the townships near Jo'burgh.  Without the state 
sponsored insurance the fuel charges cover his health insurance would have 
run out some time ago and you don't really consider being hurt so badly.  He 
started using his bike again after being rapped over the head with a shotgun 
when he stopped at a set of lights when his motor was stolen from underneath 
him.  Apparently the coloureds out there can't ride bikes so he swapped to a 
nice big Honda!

Guy R Day




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: "'Guy R Day'" <grday at btinternet.com>; "'Spridget list'" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of car


> Guy...
>
> I am all in favor of seizing cars that scofflaws drive on the highway
> without insurance. If for no other reason than their contempt for others,
> they need a stiff sentence, including time in custody!  Perhaps my view is
> colored by the fact that there have been four accidents in our family that
> were caused by uninsured drivers who did not possess a driver's license.
> Nothing happened to them, and they soon vamoosed across the border back to
> Mexico.
>
> The California Highway Patrol has estimated that fully one-half of those
> vehicles on the road today are driven by people who have neither insurance
> or a driver's license!  Government must first do something about these
> fools.
>
> What I fear is an over-reaching Government that seeks to punish those 
> people
> whose cars are on private property while undergoing restoration!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Guy R Day
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:08 PM
> To: Red Midget; 'Spridget list'
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of 
> car
>
> I must admit to liking the idea of a basic injury insurance cover on the
> cost of fuel which can be privately topped up with collision damage
> insurance.  One UK Gov. estimate released this week suggested that 20% of 
> UK
>
> road going vehicles were not insured.  The payouts for those now accounts
> for an additional 25% of insurance cost.  You may well find what you are
> paying now is dearer than what it would be than using the fuel for 
> insurance
>
> system.
>
> Guy R Day
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Red Midget" <redmidget72 at yahoo.com>
> To: "'Spridget list'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Robert Evans"
> <b-evans at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Uninsured drivers face tighter laws and loss of 
> car
>
>
>> O.M.F.G.!  Don't let the Obama administration get any ideas from this! 
>> We
>> would see another stimuls package where the USG pays for auto insurance
>> for
>> those who can't aford it.  This means we would all pay for someone elses
>> auto
>> insurance (besides our kids, spouses, and cats).
>>
>> --- On Tue, 9/15/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> This, it would seem, would certainly kill any long-term restoration
>> project.
>>
>> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article6836371.ece
>> _______________________________________________
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From grday at btinternet.com  Wed Sep 16 16:48:58 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (Guy R Day)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 23:48:58 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com><BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl><755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2><4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com><402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB15ED2.7090000@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E2CEF1AB419C4B12BB4AE6076B91B375@dell330>

But the first time you go down a slope?  'Cause you won't drive up one! 
LOL
A dirt road could be a bit of a stop-start affair as well.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?


> David Lieb wrote:
>>> More convienent would be a sense/relay circuit that triggers off of the 
>>> low side of the ignition coil.
>>>
>>
>> But that ignores the entire purpose of shutting off the supply of fuel
>> in the event of a roll-over accident or some such.
> Simple pin-ball tilt mechanism.
> A ball hanging in a loop. TILT
> Or a mercury switch from an old thermostat.
> That will give you some roll but shut off depending on how you place it.
> Everybody knows I hate relays ;)
>
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep 16 18:41:29 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:41:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <4AB15ED2.7090000@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C6D6D3C9.20B3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I've ridden in White Trash. If my stomach had been a mercury switch, it
would have shut off a few dozen times.
> Or a mercury switch from an old thermostat.
> That will give you some roll but shut off depending on how you place it.
> Everybody knows I hate relays ;)

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 18:49:10 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:49:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] A nice 67 Sprite for sale in LA (the state)
In-Reply-To: <20090916121476.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <20090916121476.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1230719


I have had some dealings with Paul B. and they were all good! He is a
straight shooter.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 16 19:20:38 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:20:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FIA RIP
Message-ID: <026201ca3735$2e0dc850$8a2958f0$@net>

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article6836959.ece 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 16 19:34:40 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:34:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <C6D6D3C9.20B3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C6D6D3C9.20B3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <DCBC355C03DB40E1877A60D809493921@HomePC>

Ah, Billy, you loved every gut-wrenching second of it.

When are you coming out again?  Road America would be a good choice.  You'll 
love it.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:41 PM
To: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>; "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?

> I've ridden in White Trash. If my stomach had been a mercury switch, it
> would have shut off a few dozen times.
>> Or a mercury switch from an old thermostat.
>> That will give you some roll but shut off depending on how you place it.
>> Everybody knows I hate relays ;)
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 16 19:45:27 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:45:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com><BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl><755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2><4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F89239DB9ED94EF5B1B0028E3ECD98D5@blackbox2>

In the case of the accident, the aforermentioned inertial switch would cut off the
pump.

The circuit off the ignition would prevent the catastrophy where there is a problem 
with the carbs, (dry rotted fule line, stuck float etc) and the key is left on for a time
while the engine is not running.  I only mention it as an easier alternative
to having to connect an oil presure switch and the associated plumbing.
 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?


>> More convienent would be a sense/relay circuit that triggers off of the low side of the ignition coil.
> 
> But that ignores the entire purpose of shutting off the supply of fuel
> in the event of a roll-over accident or some such. The concept being
> that there has been a catastrophic situation, the fuel pump is still
> running because the key is on, potentially supplying fuel to a fire or
> inviting a fire by pumping fuel into a hot engine compartment. In
> effect, the stock arrangement of the electric pump is that it is
> triggered by the low side of the ignition coil ;-)
> David L
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 19:49:58 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:49:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <F89239DB9ED94EF5B1B0028E3ECD98D5@blackbox2>
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
	<4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
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> In the case of the accident, the aforermentioned inertial switch would cut
> off the
> pump.
>
> The circuit off the ignition would prevent the catastrophy where there is a
> problem with the carbs, (dry rotted fule line, stuck float etc) and the key
> is left on for a time
> while the engine is not running.  I only mention it as an easier
alternative
> to having to connect an oil presure switch and the associated plumbing.

Huh? Would you be so kind as to explain? Please bear in mind that the
fuel pump is already on the white circuit and thus switched with the
low side of the coil.
David L

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 16 20:09:02 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:09:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
	<4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
	<F89239DB9ED94EF5B1B0028E3ECD98D5@blackbox2>
	<402188520909161849t3b3e4f25rdee40212a7dc4591@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D7C00F3198D24FFE895099186E094C42@blackbox2>

The circuit is looking for pulses on the coil so as know that the engine is turning over before 
turning on the fuel pump via relay.  I senses like an electric tach.

If there are no pulses then the pump does not run.

Most remote engine starters detect engine rotation like this.

A circuit like this is easier than plumbing an oil pressure switch.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Huh? Would you be so kind as to explain? 

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Wed Sep 16 20:14:21 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:14:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <DCBC355C03DB40E1877A60D809493921@HomePC>
References: <C6D6D3C9.20B3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<DCBC355C03DB40E1877A60D809493921@HomePC>
Message-ID: <FD7C0A69AB1044B6AD79F5DDC11F934B@BASEMENTDELL>

There was another seat in it??  Oh wait that makes sense :)

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 8:35 PM
To: Billy Zoom
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?

Ah, Billy, you loved every gut-wrenching second of it.

When are you coming out again?  Road America would be a good choice.  You'll

love it.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 7:41 PM
To: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>; "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?

> I've ridden in White Trash. If my stomach had been a mercury switch, it
> would have shut off a few dozen times.
>> Or a mercury switch from an old thermostat.
>> That will give you some roll but shut off depending on how you place it.
>> Everybody knows I hate relays ;)
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 20:20:53 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:20:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <D7C00F3198D24FFE895099186E094C42@blackbox2>
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
	<4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
	<F89239DB9ED94EF5B1B0028E3ECD98D5@blackbox2>
	<402188520909161849t3b3e4f25rdee40212a7dc4591@mail.gmail.com>
	<D7C00F3198D24FFE895099186E094C42@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <402188520909161920g24120d08v25f55ee9813e99be@mail.gmail.com>

> A circuit like this is easier than plumbing an oil pressure switch.

I dunno bout dat. A simple T with a short piece of pipe and the oil
pressure switch screws right in (common mod in 1500 Midgets that want
a real oil pressure gauge). The oil pressure switch is probably more
reliable and much less of a pain to diagnose if it goes haywire. I
tend to prefer mechanical "fixes" over electronic wizardry in a
Spridget ;-)
David L

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 16 20:46:22 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 22:46:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
	<4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
	<F89239DB9ED94EF5B1B0028E3ECD98D5@blackbox2>
	<402188520909161849t3b3e4f25rdee40212a7dc4591@mail.gmail.com>
	<D7C00F3198D24FFE895099186E094C42@blackbox2>
	<402188520909161920g24120d08v25f55ee9813e99be@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5A9AD394090D4032BFEBF1AE9BC844F1@blackbox2>

To each his own. 

Imagine a little black box with 4 wires.
Hot lead from the ignition on,  ground, a lead to fuel pump, and a lead to the coil.

Hooking up an oil pressure switch on an early car is not so easy.  On a bugeye
we have the thin pipe from the block that goes to the mechanical oil pressure gauge.
I don't want to mess with that.

Even if I were going to do it with a pressure switch then I would want to have it
with a relay as well, which makes it just as complex from a wiring point of view.

Of course it's helps if we know what to put in the theoretical black box...
I think it would be called a "missing pulse detector" in Forrest Mims' parlance.

Google it..


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>


>> A circuit like this is easier than plumbing an oil pressure switch.
> 
> I dunno bout dat. A simple T with a short piece of pipe and the oil
> pressure switch screws right in (common mod in 1500 Midgets that want
> a real oil pressure gauge). The oil pressure switch is probably more
> reliable and much less of a pain to diagnose if it goes haywire. I
> tend to prefer mechanical "fixes" over electronic wizardry in a
> Spridget ;-)
> David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 20:59:41 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:59:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <5A9AD394090D4032BFEBF1AE9BC844F1@blackbox2>
References: <cd9.5ae15f5c.37e11465@aol.com>
	<BAY112-W4973A1E2249DEF982E4E25B8E30@phx.gbl>
	<755913F3A7B7484ABC38D25B121505AA@blackbox2>
	<4333f8140909152120m106907d5n7ddd5dcdb6312942@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909160441v394acdfcw5cd1010d171d426a@mail.gmail.com>
	<F89239DB9ED94EF5B1B0028E3ECD98D5@blackbox2>
	<402188520909161849t3b3e4f25rdee40212a7dc4591@mail.gmail.com>
	<D7C00F3198D24FFE895099186E094C42@blackbox2>
	<402188520909161920g24120d08v25f55ee9813e99be@mail.gmail.com>
	<5A9AD394090D4032BFEBF1AE9BC844F1@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <402188520909161959j1fb4703cle484fa0e29f63c6a@mail.gmail.com>

Yes indeed, to each his own.
Unscrew the oil pressure line from the block and you have a fairly
standard pipe thread. The thin pipe puts up with the vibration of the
engine, so moving it a couple inches to a T is not a big deal. A relay
in the fuel pump circuit is not necessarily a bad thing under any
circumstances, but it would not be necessary here. If there is a
failure, it would be easy to diagnose and/or bypass.

"Imagine a little black box with 4 wires..." OK, a quick google shows
circuits with a 555 timer, a couple capacitors, a couple resistors,
and a transistor. How many ways can that fail? How hot does it get in
your engine compartment? No thanks.

Ah yes, I thought Forrest Mims sounded familiar... I used to have a
project book from Radio Shack by him ;-)
David L

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 17 05:23:23 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:23:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Road America
Message-ID: <174259.31354.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Ron,
I have a new CR gear set from Hardy Engineering I'll be assembling this
winter, but I may want to add a spare gearbox to the trailer. What kind of
shape is it in, and what are you going to be using? 
I'm leaving tomorrow for Road America and will be there until the 28th. We
will be near the turn 5 paddock, I think it is an overflow parking area,
spaces 705 & 706. I'll be with formula vee drivers Dean Curtis and Ed Womer,
and expect to have lots of time on my hands until Saturday, when the FV race
is just after lunch. I'll be meeting spridget racer Dayle Frame there also to
pick up some Q.E. offset race springs. Hopefully you can stop by and find me
so we can meet and talk some racing.
John

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:


Planning on Saturday, the 28th. Have a close ratio straight cut gearbox I may
sell if you need it for your
 Spridget!

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 17 07:06:21 2009
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 06:06:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Master Cylinder Rebuild Kit
Message-ID: <917835.66173.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Where is the best place to get a Bugeye brake/clutch master cylinder repair kit?  The last kit I got from Mo$$ had a few seals that would not fit into the bores so I had to put a few old ones back in.  Now it is leaking again.

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 17 09:34:44 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:34:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll take your RWA, and raise ya.....
Message-ID: <200909170834951.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/1376953670.html



LOL

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep 17 10:01:46 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:01:46 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll take your RWA, and raise ya.....
In-Reply-To: <200909170834951.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <200909170834951.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W1392B5623311B0FCB8269AB8E10@phx.gbl>

Those new replacement springs do tend to make the car sit a bit high, don't
they?

> From: peter at nosimport.com
>
> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/1376953670.html
>
> LOL

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 10:06:37 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:06:37 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll take your RWA, and raise ya.....
In-Reply-To: <200909170834951.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <200909170834951.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910909170906r2e2bca5ao88b8cb2a970dfcb9@mail.gmail.com>

I've seen something like that around here before.  Seems like a Suzuki
Samurai chassis, IIRC.

That is better than the 60s Mustangs on the Bronco 4X4 chassis.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Thu Sep 17 10:23:02 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:23:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll take your RWA, and raise ya.....
In-Reply-To: <200909170834951.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <2139529426.3638171253204582853.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

WHAT? or shouldB I say WHY????






----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:34:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll take your RWA, and raise ya.....

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/1376953670.html



LOL

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 10:27:36 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 09:27:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vammoooose Across the Border
Message-ID: <37dc82d40909170927n593d59dcq8f9896f211d4c1a7@mail.gmail.com>

Years ago I used to ride with a CHP guy.  He was about ready for retirement.
.  and for some reason he had to be the most forgiving Highway Patrol
Officer in Northern Ca.

I will never forget the day that he got back into the car after pulling a
guy over for a small traffic infraction.

He told me that the guy was an illegal without insurance or any
documentation. .  and he let the guy off.

I wondered if sometimes this happens cause the cops just do not want the
hassle of prosecuting such people?

This was back around 1988 and I still remember the incident. . it really
caught me off guard.

Kirk


PS
He also let me pull some stunts while in his patrol car.  I had a family
relative who was a pastor of a little church in San Pablo Ca.  We pulled up
to this guys house early in the morning.  I got on the patrol units PA and
ordered my relative out of the house to lay face down in the grass.  Out
comes this 400 lb dude in his boxer shorts with his hands up.  I knew the
guy pretty well and knew that he would be able to take the joke. I know, bad
thing to do. .  but I have to admit - I laughed so hard I was in tears.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Thu Sep 17 10:27:39 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:27:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll take your RWA, and raise ya.....
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W1392B5623311B0FCB8269AB8E10@phx.gbl>
References: <200909170834951.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<BAY112-W1392B5623311B0FCB8269AB8E10@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D1F7C8B6-2F42-4341-BE79-5B418206D4E5@comcast.net>

We've been over this countless times, you get some long bolts and some  
washers.....

;-)


Lester


On Sep 17, 2009, at 11:01 AM, <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> <robertduquette at sympatico.ca 
 > wrote:

> Those new replacement springs do tend to make the car sit a bit  
> high, don't
> they?
>
>> From: peter at nosimport.com
>>
>> http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/1376953670.html
>>
>> LOL
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Sep 17 11:31:12 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:31:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll take your RWA, and raise ya.....
In-Reply-To: <2139529426.3638171253204582853.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C6D7C070.20B7D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> WHY????
Boston streets.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 12:06:36 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:06:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I'll take your RWA, and raise ya.....
In-Reply-To: <C6D7C070.20B7D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <2139529426.3638171253204582853.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<C6D7C070.20B7D%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909171106w19609ba3q11b5105d4aeaeaa9@mail.gmail.com>

>> WHY????

> Boston streets.


If that were the case, he would have the reinforced bumper package as well ;-)
David L

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 12:09:35 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:09:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Master Cylinder Rebuild Kit
In-Reply-To: <917835.66173.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <917835.66173.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909171109l5fceb7fo40342d642c03c0ca@mail.gmail.com>

Now's you chance to get it 'sleeved'.
Contact Gerard.

Herb

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Doug Altman <doug_altman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Where is the best place to get a Bugeye brake/clutch master cylinder repair
> kit?  The last kit I got from Mo$$ had a few seals that would not fit into
> the bores so I had to put a few old ones back in.  Now it is leaking again.
> _______________________________________________

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 12:42:05 2009
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:42:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Master Cylinder Rebuild Kit
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909171109l5fceb7fo40342d642c03c0ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <917835.66173.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909171109l5fceb7fo40342d642c03c0ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <531383560909171142q3e212024p29529f916ff331ac@mail.gmail.com>

What Herb said.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:09 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Now's you chance to get it 'sleeved'.
> Contact Gerard.
>
> Herb
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:06 AM, Doug Altman <doug_altman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Where is the best place to get a Bugeye brake/clutch master cylinder
repair
>> kit?  The last kit I got from Mo$$ had a few seals that would not fit into
>> the bores so I had to put a few old ones back in.  Now it is leaking
again.
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 14:31:38 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:31:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vammoooose Across the Border
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40909170927n593d59dcq8f9896f211d4c1a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40909170927n593d59dcq8f9896f211d4c1a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909171331q47bd99d2ha4922c35d570334e@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Kirk Hargreaves
<khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Years ago I used to ride with a CHP guy.  He was about ready for
retirement.
> .  and for some reason he had to be the most forgiving Highway Patrol
> Officer in Northern Ca.
>
> I will never forget the day that he got back into the car after pulling a
> guy over for a small traffic infraction.
>
> He told me that the guy was an illegal without insurance or any
> documentation. .  and he let the guy off.
>
> I wondered if sometimes this happens cause the cops just do not want the
> hassle of prosecuting such people?

And as we all look the other way because it's a hassle to confront the
situation we lose control of the issue ... and our country.

Personally I find it to be a hassle to continue to fund the payroll
for workers like that.
I still do it because it's my responsibility ... now if only they'd
hold up to their responsibility too.

From sales at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 17 15:11:58 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:11:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vammoooose Across the Border
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909171331q47bd99d2ha4922c35d570334e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40909170927n593d59dcq8f9896f211d4c1a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0909171331q47bd99d2ha4922c35d570334e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB2A61E.5070007@justbrits.com>

<< now if only they'd hold up to their responsibility too. >>

You mean silly stuff like becoming a CITIZEN
and learning ENGLISH Jeff;  like my Great, Great
Grand Parents DID ?!?!?

Ed

From sales at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 17 15:22:38 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:22:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <DCBC355C03DB40E1877A60D809493921@HomePC>
References: <C6D6D3C9.20B3A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<DCBC355C03DB40E1877A60D809493921@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4AB2A89E.6090904@justbrits.com>

<< Road America would be a good choice.  You'll love it. >>

Billy, if you liked Blackhawk Farms as Larry hints at
you will think you died and when to Heaven at R.A. !!!!

"Awesome" does NOT do it justice <G> !!

Ed

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 17 16:23:37 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:23:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Vammoooose Across the Border
In-Reply-To: <4AB2A61E.5070007@justbrits.com>
References: <37dc82d40909170927n593d59dcq8f9896f211d4c1a7@mail.gmail.com><8de85a9c0909171331q47bd99d2ha4922c35d570334e@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB2A61E.5070007@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <8B93E9118F0D4D7294D398DC0971C47F@HomePC>

Just tell them not to procreate like ED's grandparents did.

Anon.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Sales at " Just Brits "" <sales at justbrits.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:11 PM
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vammoooose Across the Border

> << now if only they'd hold up to their responsibility too. >>
> 
> You mean silly stuff like becoming a CITIZEN
> and learning ENGLISH Jeff;  like my Great, Great
> Grand Parents DID ?!?!?
> 
> Ed
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 17 17:19:31 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:19:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
In-Reply-To: <4AB2A89E.6090904@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <81126.97250.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ed,

They serve beer at Blackhawk now, so you'll probably like it there as
well.

Divad Beil

--- On Thu, 9/17/09, Sales at " Just Brits "
<sales at justbrits.com> wrote:

> From: Sales at " Just Brits "
<sales at justbrits.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] fire extinguisher?
> To:
"Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009,
4:22 PM
> << Road America would be a good
> choice.  You'll love it. >>
> 
>
Billy, if you liked Blackhawk Farms as Larry hints at
> you will think you
died and when to Heaven at R.A. !!!!
> 
> "Awesome" does NOT do it justice <G>
!!
> 
> Ed
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Thu Sep 17 18:15:07 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:15:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Chevy vs. Chevy
Message-ID: <0612ED8DFBAD4A3DAC2BAC74B084F5D5@AndrewHP>

Here's an interesting video about the ever present argument that an LBC is
somehow safer than a modern car.

 

http://jalopnik.com/5361769/jalopnik-crash-week-begins-1959-chevy-vs-2009-ch
evy

 

Drew

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 18:24:57 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:24:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] A nice 67 Sprite for sale in LA (the state)
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0909161749wd6af4d9ob565b2af33f90f2c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090916121476.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<b777e2be0909161749wd6af4d9ob565b2af33f90f2c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909171724v50cdd415we7372452ba22dacf@mail.gmail.com>

And a great price too!
My next home will be a 10 car garage : )

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:49 PM, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> wrote:
>
> http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,1230719
>
>
> I have had some dealings with Paul B. and they were all good! He is a
> straight shooter.
>
> --
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 19:41:09 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:41:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NSC Marrantz 5420
Message-ID: <402188520909171841s2b856c76xd364d5cebc5d4b5f@mail.gmail.com>

Absolutely no Spridget content.
I wasn't even driving a Spridget today when I stopped to rescue a
Marrantz 5420 cassette deck from a garbage pile.
These were supposed to be really something when they were new... two
line mixer, dolby, CRO2, etc. A little dirty. I haven't plugged it in.
Anybody interested?
David L

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 22:18:19 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 23:18:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NSC Marrantz 5420
In-Reply-To: <402188520909171841s2b856c76xd364d5cebc5d4b5f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909171841s2b856c76xd364d5cebc5d4b5f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909172118n41a2186fr70ff02fa15bf4096@mail.gmail.com>

I had one. It croaked after about 3 years. Drive spindle rubber fell apart.
I think it was made in China.

Cheers!!
Jim

P.S. What's a "cassette"?  Sounds like a small box you put a baby into....

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:41 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> Absolutely no Spridget content.
> I wasn't even driving a Spridget today when I stopped to rescue a
> Marrantz 5420 cassette deck from a garbage pile.
> These were supposed to be really something when they were new... two
> line mixer, dolby, CRO2, etc. A little dirty. I haven't plugged it in.
> Anybody interested?
> David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Sep 18 07:13:06 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:13:06 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Vammoooose Across the Border
In-Reply-To: <4AB2A61E.5070007@justbrits.com>
References: <37dc82d40909170927n593d59dcq8f9896f211d4c1a7@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0909171331q47bd99d2ha4922c35d570334e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4AB2A61E.5070007@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W160C664F4F41AFBFE2A6D2B8E00@phx.gbl>

C'mon ED, I'm sure they weren't that great!  ;)


> << now if only they'd hold up to their responsibility too. >>
>
> You mean silly stuff like becoming a CITIZEN
> and learning ENGLISH Jeff; like my Great, Great
> Grand Parents DID ?!?!?
>
> Ed

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 08:13:31 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:13:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>

Item number:  300348776161

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300348776161

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 18 09:59:57 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <157083.92756.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

W O W

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:

> From:
Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, September 18,
2009, 9:13 AM
> Item number:  300348776161
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300348776161
>
_______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 18 10:27:50 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:27:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <157083.92756.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<157083.92756.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200909180927816.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

In the fourth picture down in the thumbnails, what the F is going on 
in the backround? An airborne ?
         Peter C
=

At 10:59 AM 9/18/2009, Ron Soave wrote:
>W O W
>
>--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From:
>Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
> > To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Friday, September 18,
>2009, 9:13 AM
> > Item number:  300348776161
> >
> >
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300348776161

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Sep 18 10:33:18 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:33:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <157083.92756.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>,
	<157083.92756.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AB3B64E.30973.8E9484@kk7ss.verizon.net>

The car or the starting price??

I just wish I had the money for that  bit of history...

On 18 Sep 2009 at 8:59, Ron Soave wrote:

>> W O W


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 18 11:03:34 2009
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:03:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <200909180927816.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <395864.75971.qm@web51611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I was there in 1965, year of the rain storms, and that is Ferrari stuck in the
sand bank.....

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:


From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
To: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>, "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, September 18, 2009, 12:27 PM


In the fourth picture down in the thumbnails, what the F is going on
in the backround? An airborne ?
         Peter C
=

At 10:59 AM 9/18/2009, Ron Soave wrote:
>W O W
>
>--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From:
>Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
> > To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Date: Friday, September 18,
>2009, 9:13 AM
> > Item number:  300348776161
> >
> >
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300348776161
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 11:07:58 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:07:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <200909180927816.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<157083.92756.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200909180927816.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4333f8140909181007g1121f20fl6db01f894ed82ffa@mail.gmail.com>

The car in the background is parked on the bank.  You can tell this by the
relative blur.  The camera panned with the sprite, therefore it is sharp.
The stationary background shows the motion caused by the camera movement.
Since the car in back is blurred the same as the background that indicates
it is not moving.

Hal

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> In the fourth picture down in the thumbnails, what the F is going on in the
> backround? An airborne ?
>        Peter C
> =
>
>
> At 10:59 AM 9/18/2009, Ron Soave wrote:
>
>> W O W
>>
>> --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From:
>> Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
>> > To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> > Date: Friday, September 18,
>> 2009, 9:13 AM
>> > Item number:  300348776161
>> >
>> >
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300348776161
>>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Sep 18 11:15:02 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:15:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <4AB3B64E.30973.8E9484@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>,
	<157083.92756.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4AB3B64E.30973.8E9484@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4D4253D67B4F4ECEB72215AE4DEE8451@spider>

Looks like a Saab Sonnet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Sonett#Sonett_V4

=======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 09:33
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay

The car or the starting price??

I just wish I had the money for that  bit of history...

On 18 Sep 2009 at 8:59, Ron Soave wrote:

>> W O W


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 18 11:28:05 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:28:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <4AB3B64E.30973.8E9484@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <672167.76053.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:
> The car or the starting price??

The car. It should fetch 6 figures.

Ron

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 12:18:03 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:18:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <672167.76053.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4AB3B64E.30973.8E9484@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<672167.76053.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909181118l5172f84bp1662082f07e057a9@mail.gmail.com>

>> The car or the starting price??

> The car. It should fetch 6 figures.

Makes you wonder what the reserve is. Probably 6 figures. It certainly
would be if I were selling it. With that provenance, to say nothing of
the not inconsiderable expense of having it returned to Sebring spec
by the Healeys, it is worth quite a bit to a number of people.
David L

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Sep 18 12:45:20 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:45:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <4D4253D67B4F4ECEB72215AE4DEE8451@spider>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>,
	<157083.92756.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W24D9AC9E4695B6F55FC99AC2E00@phx.gbl>

Silly Scandinavian Copycats. ;-)
makes me want to cash in what's left of my 201K,
and work for an extra 10 years.....
Tho I'd really rather have a one of the ones that ran in 1970.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:15:02 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
>
> Looks like a Saab Sonnet
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Sonett#Sonett_V4
>
> =======================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 09:33
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
>
> The car or the starting price??
>
> I just wish I had the money for that  bit of history...
>
> On 18 Sep 2009 at 8:59, Ron Soave wrote:
>
> >> W O W
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
>
>
>
> http://www.team.net/archive
>
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets
 		 	   		  
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From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Fri Sep 18 16:20:05 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0000
Subject: [Spridgets] 1275
Message-ID: <002301c13c4d$c11aec40$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Hi all,

Looking for a single 1275 connecting rod.

Contact me off list if you have one or know of one available

Of course, I'll pay a decent price!

Later. Paul A

PAsgeirsson at att.net

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Sep 18 19:01:23 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:01:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <4D4253D67B4F4ECEB72215AE4DEE8451@spider>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>,
	<157083.92756.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4AB3B64E.30973.8E9484@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<4D4253D67B4F4ECEB72215AE4DEE8451@spider>
Message-ID: <5619D7AE-D738-4CDB-94D7-C530B69A773E@comcast.net>

Not even close TO A Sonett...

Lester

..ask the man who owns 7..


On Sep 18, 2009, at 12:15 PM, <corvallis at peoplepc.com> <corvallis at peoplepc.com 
 > wrote:

> Looks like a Saab Sonnet
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Sonett#Sonett_V4
>
> =======================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 09:33
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
>
> The car or the starting price??
>
> I just wish I had the money for that  bit of history...
>
> On 18 Sep 2009 at 8:59, Ron Soave wrote:
>
>>> W O W
>
>
> --
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> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
>
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep 18 21:24:46 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:24:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Projects
Message-ID: <4AB44EFE.3010601@comcast.net>

Now that I figured out my wife's new camera, I put a couple pictures of 
my latest projects on snapfish.
Not an LBC, well wait a minute, yes an LBC, Little Baby Carriage and a 
1963 chain drive tricycle complete with MG/Austin Healey badge ;)
Ok, so I;m a bit early on the grandkid's toys, but at this rate I'll 
have his Bugeye all restored before he's 3 years old!

http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=2335582013/

And I also found a 67 Schwinn Starlet ladies bike in the trash today, I 
just started on that. Beats the heck out of all the junk from china.
This will be grandma's *new* bike to replace her chinese made bike.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Sep 18 21:32:14 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:32:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
References: <4AB3B64E.30973.8E9484@kk7ss.verizon.net><672167.76053.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188520909181118l5172f84bp1662082f07e057a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3AE9DEEE9CD74829A7E77A1E925D3814@blackbox2>

I'll bet it either goes unsold as "reserve not met" OR someone from the UK buys it.

BTW, "This car has been clocked at 156mph" means that he had to be pulling over 7600rpm 
with a 3.7 diff.  Must'a been a white knuckle ride.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
> Makes you wonder what the reserve is. Probably 6 figures. It certainly
> would be if I were selling it. With that provenance, to say nothing of
> the not inconsiderable expense of having it returned to Sebring spec
> by the Healeys, it is worth quite a bit to a number of people.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Sep 18 22:30:54 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:30:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No More Snow Chains
In-Reply-To: <377203.4377.qm@web81601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <377203.4377.qm@web81601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909182130k5ad39774jcac20ebb059e1ace@mail.gmail.com>

Know about these?  Used them?



Video of Snow Grip:
http://www.carid.com/images/snow-grip/snow-grip-popup_4.htm

Company Website:
http://www.shurtrax.com/tire-traction-aid-tire-chain-roc60062.html

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Sep 19 00:34:26 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:34:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Here's one in Kansas
Message-ID: <d49b03130909182334j626ea616ve5131f0f88ec4c3a@mail.gmail.com>

*Nice project for someone.

http://tinyurl.com/nbc66l

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

*

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Sep 19 00:40:29 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:40:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Route 66 Rendezvous
Message-ID: <d49b03130909182340r73c8427bqa054d9062d396cd0@mail.gmail.com>

They are having the Annual Route 66 Rendezvous event here in San Bernardino
this weekend.  Great venue for car guys.  Just for fun, I drove the Bugeye
around town (hot rodders are everywhere) to see some of the cars.  Got quite
a few of the participants pull up next to me and ask if I was headed for the
Redezvous.  I said, "no, I just live around here."   Some beautiful customs
out there tonight.  One guy with a nice Mopar with a blower sticking out of
the hood, blew his motor while my son and I was watching him rev the hell
out of it.  Going to be a great, but very hot weekend around here.  Too bad
I have to work.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 01:03:07 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:03:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Here's one in Kansas
In-Reply-To: <d49b03130909182334j626ea616ve5131f0f88ec4c3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03130909182334j626ea616ve5131f0f88ec4c3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090909190003m6e2896efx40d3f8ae8520048e@mail.gmail.com>

considering it's a late 68, or 69 Midget....
Padded dash, triple wipers, slat grill.
Since the triples started mid 68, but 69 was the last year of that grill
style, that is how I arrived at my conclusion. This could be a titling
nightmare for someone.

Brad

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 1:34 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <
rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

> *Nice project for someone.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/nbc66l
>
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> *
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From dwramsey at att.net  Sat Sep 19 01:20:58 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:20:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No More Snow Chains
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909182130k5ad39774jcac20ebb059e1ace@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090919072105.7EED218766D@autox.team.net>

Don't know anything about them, but the website says they will only last 30
mile if not on ice or snow. That means they will last about to where you get
to the snow on I-80 over Donner pass from where CalTrans makes you put on
your chains.  Another good question will they accept them as chains?
		Crash 

Know about these?  Used them?



Video of Snow Grip:
http://www.carid.com/images/snow-grip/snow-grip-popup_4.htm

Company Website:
http://www.shurtrax.com/tire-traction-aid-tire-chain-roc60062.html

From cooper6 at swbell.net  Sat Sep 19 02:52:31 2009
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:52:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Projects
In-Reply-To: <4AB44EFE.3010601@comcast.net>
References: <4AB44EFE.3010601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CED18303536245DC9BC4CC0F8271D396@cooper>

Frank, snap fish album link not working.



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 22:25
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Projects

Now that I figured out my wife's new camera, I put a couple pictures of 
my latest projects on snapfish.
Not an LBC, well wait a minute, yes an LBC, Little Baby Carriage and a 
1963 chain drive tricycle complete with MG/Austin Healey badge ;)
Ok, so I;m a bit early on the grandkid's toys, but at this rate I'll 
have his Bugeye all restored before he's 3 years old!

http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=2335582013/

And I also found a 67 Schwinn Starlet ladies bike in the trash today, I 
just started on that. Beats the heck out of all the junk from china.
This will be grandma's *new* bike to replace her chinese made bike.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 04:23:16 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:23:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] How do I test my Napa elect fuel pump?
In-Reply-To: <F76B81BD834043148C0A594BDE34CE6F@spider>
References: <205cef430908271005l163e8fb7n4cc76e2c5943bb4a@mail.gmail.com>
	<F76B81BD834043148C0A594BDE34CE6F@spider>
Message-ID: <205cef430909190323i6f328201ibf10510538384252@mail.gmail.com>

Tested on battery doa made in china. I went to norwoods they had one
made in Mexico. They had another made in USA got it works great that
was probably my fuel problem last year yippi I won't ever buy crap
again.
Lin

On Thursday, August 27, 2009,  <corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote:
> An ohm meter should show some resistence. The electronics in there could be
> fried; putting your battery across it will be run/no run best test. They
> should not crap out at a year.  China Syndrome?  ...bill in oregon
> ===============================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:06 AM
> To: Spridget list
> Subject: [Spridgets] How do I test my Napa elect fuel pump?
>
> List,
> I just hopped into my Sprite and it appears the 1 yr old Napa fuel pump is
> not working. I pulled it out and wanted to know how do I know it is DOA vs
a
> short? I have a digital OHM's meter. Could I hook it directly to my
battery?
> Yes I know I would have to use extreem caution as there are gas fumes.
> Lin
>
> PS My computer is extremely slow so I'm not on much anymore.
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 04:28:46 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 06:28:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Here's one in Kansas
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090909190003m6e2896efx40d3f8ae8520048e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03130909182334j626ea616ve5131f0f88ec4c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090909190003m6e2896efx40d3f8ae8520048e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909190328h205373f4r84da87dfdab32a2a@mail.gmail.com>

Ditto
Lin


On Saturday, September 19, 2009, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com> wrote:
> considering it's a late 68, or 69 Midget....
> Padded dash, triple wipers, slat grill.
> Since the triples started mid 68, but 69 was the last year of that grill
> style, that is how I arrived at my conclusion. This could be a titling
> nightmare for someone.
>
> Brad
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 1:34 AM, rrengineer @http://dslextreme.com <
> rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>> *Nice project for someone.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/nbc66l
>>
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
>>
>> *
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 07:38:40 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:38:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Here's one in Kansas
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909190328h205373f4r84da87dfdab32a2a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03130909182334j626ea616ve5131f0f88ec4c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090909190003m6e2896efx40d3f8ae8520048e@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430909190328h205373f4r84da87dfdab32a2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909190638w639f2856hfe75ac57996ed0c4@mail.gmail.com>

Appears to be a mix-n-match car.  The seats are wrong for a 68-69. That's a
Midget grill with an AH badge in the middle of it, right? Steering wheel is
off a Sprite.

The seller is in the San Fernando Valley but the car(s) are only 50 miles
east of me.  I could run over and check them out if anyone is
interested....  Lemme know....

There is still a 66 Midget here in Dodge City looking for an owner and it is
more correct than these specimens. Owner would probably be glad to have a
couple hundred for it.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Linda Grunthaner
<grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ditto
> Lin
>
>
> On Saturday, September 19, 2009, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > considering it's a late 68, or 69 Midget....
> > Padded dash, triple wipers, slat grill.
> > Since the triples started mid 68, but 69 was the last year of that grill
> > style, that is how I arrived at my conclusion. This could be a titling
> > nightmare for someone.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 1:34 AM, rrengineer @http://dslextreme.com <
> > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >
> >> *Nice project for someone.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/nbc66l
> >>
> >> Mike MacLean
> >> 60 Sprite
> >> 56 BN2
> >>
> >> *
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not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 08:08:15 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:08:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Projects
In-Reply-To: <4AB44EFE.3010601@comcast.net>
References: <4AB44EFE.3010601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <402188520909190708t20539380wcddd7a52a5e19f1e@mail.gmail.com>

> And I also found a 67 Schwinn Starlet ladies bike in the trash today, I just
> started on that. Beats the heck out of all the junk from china.
> This will be grandma's *new* bike to replace her chinese made bike.

You really ought to be looking for an older English Raleigh or
Phillips bike for her.
David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 19 08:13:32 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 07:13:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No More Snow Chains
In-Reply-To: <20090919072105.7EED218766D@autox.team.net>
References: <2ad6c6b10909182130k5ad39774jcac20ebb059e1ace@mail.gmail.com>,
	<20090919072105.7EED218766D@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4AB4E70C.7280.1B902E@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Crash,

If this is about the spider-spikes, then your comment is not quite 
correct,,,,
They recommend a speed limit of 30 miles per hour *NOT* 30 miles of 
distance...

They are accepted as chains in WA over Snoqualmie and other passes

A friend of mine has been using then for over 10 years now, and you 
can get individual parts if needed...


On 19 Sep 2009 at 0:20, David Ramsey wrote:

>> Don't know anything about them, but the website says they will only
>> last 30 mile if not on ice or snow. That means they will last about to
>> where you get to the snow on I-80 over Donner pass from where CalTrans
>> makes you put on your chains.  Another good question will they accept
>> them as chains?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 08:54:05 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 09:54:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Here's one in Kansas
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909190638w639f2856hfe75ac57996ed0c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03130909182334j626ea616ve5131f0f88ec4c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090909190003m6e2896efx40d3f8ae8520048e@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430909190328h205373f4r84da87dfdab32a2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0909190638w639f2856hfe75ac57996ed0c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909190754i5536dd54s9c31d1a4ecd34ea4@mail.gmail.com>

I'd be a bit nervous of going there to check that one out Jim ...

Looks like some huge alien crop circle just NW of there!  ;-)

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Rush+Center,+Kansas

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 19 09:05:20 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:05:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Projects
In-Reply-To: <402188520909190708t20539380wcddd7a52a5e19f1e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB44EFE.3010601@comcast.net>
	<402188520909190708t20539380wcddd7a52a5e19f1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64D35F1524414A44B89336241C2307AE@spider>

Agreed. Shop on eBay and look at what some of the parts are going for; until
you try to sell yours. ...bill in oregon
=======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 07:08
To: Frank; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Latest Projects

> And I also found a 67 Schwinn Starlet ladies bike in the trash today, I
just
> started on that. Beats the heck out of all the junk from china.
> This will be grandma's *new* bike to replace her chinese made bike.

You really ought to be looking for an older English Raleigh or
Phillips bike for her.
David L
_______________________________________________

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Sep 19 09:06:13 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:06:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Here's one in Kansas
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909190754i5536dd54s9c31d1a4ecd34ea4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03130909182334j626ea616ve5131f0f88ec4c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<e98d88090909190003m6e2896efx40d3f8ae8520048e@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430909190328h205373f4r84da87dfdab32a2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0909190638w639f2856hfe75ac57996ed0c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0909190754i5536dd54s9c31d1a4ecd34ea4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <26C03AC3-4A73-40F6-8CA6-48CA6F1BF970@comcast.net>

And everything is dead from a line just South of town.. save yourself!!

Lester

On Sep 19, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Jeff Foster wrote:

> I'd be a bit nervous of going there to check that one out Jim ...
>
> Looks like some huge alien crop circle just NW of there!  ;-)
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Rush+Center,+Kansas
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Sep 19 09:08:01 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:08:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks guys!  Engine pickup from Wisconsin..
Message-ID: <61F6ED81-8F37-4261-B405-BD85C6ABADF8@comcast.net>

Well I want to thank Brad, Ron, and Kris for the engine transport and  
manufacture.  Especially Brad as he knows some guys who know some guys  
and ..well..  the engine ended up only 4 hours from my house.

Thanks guys!


Lester

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 19 09:08:47 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:08:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Here's one in Kansas
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909190754i5536dd54s9c31d1a4ecd34ea4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03130909182334j626ea616ve5131f0f88ec4c3a@mail.gmail.com>,
	<43840a7e0909190638w639f2856hfe75ac57996ed0c4@mail.gmail.com>,
	<8de85a9c0909190754i5536dd54s9c31d1a4ecd34ea4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB4F3FF.21065.4E2443@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Do you think he might have the titles mixed up??
The 'spare' car seems to have the correct sprite grill. And I noticed 
that the featured car has wind-up windows - post 1964.?...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 09:21:06 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 08:21:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Here's one in Kansas
In-Reply-To: <4AB4F3FF.21065.4E2443@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <d49b03130909182334j626ea616ve5131f0f88ec4c3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0909190638w639f2856hfe75ac57996ed0c4@mail.gmail.com>
	<8de85a9c0909190754i5536dd54s9c31d1a4ecd34ea4@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AB4F3FF.21065.4E2443@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909190821y46104d52je92bd7e1786a718f@mail.gmail.com>

Probably, Dave.  Also, the window crank handles are chrome which supports
the 3 wiper blade configuration. Early 68's were 2 wipers and black plastic
crank handles. Also, early 68s had the bonnet arrow and side trim.  I think
Brad had it right on this car. It is late 68 or 69.  A look at the front
shock mount would tell the tale. Anyone want me to run over and check it
out?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:08 AM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> Do you think he might have the titles mixed up??
> The 'spare' car seems to have the correct sprite grill. And I noticed
> that the featured car has wind-up windows - post 1964.?...
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
>
> Age is just another number... !
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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 11:41:32 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:41:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No More Snow Chains
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909182130k5ad39774jcac20ebb059e1ace@mail.gmail.com>
References: <377203.4377.qm@web81601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909182130k5ad39774jcac20ebb059e1ace@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <441250190909191041s3d9a0da6x5e4cd0748ba8ee5e@mail.gmail.com>

I think these are like http://www.autosock.us/  I use snow tires and 4WD to
get over the pass in snow.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Know about these?  Used them?
>
>
>
> Video of Snow Grip:
> http://www.carid.com/images/snow-grip/snow-grip-popup_4.htm
>
> Company Website:
> http://www.shurtrax.com/tire-traction-aid-tire-chain-roc60062.html
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 19 13:29:37 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:29:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <441250190909191041s3d9a0da6x5e4cd0748ba8ee5e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Speaking of which, it's time after 70,000 miles to think about new tires for
my wife's AWD Subaru crossover ute. What do you guys recommend for something
with a winter bias? I don't care about the cost - tires are cheaper than
bodywork. It's 75 today, but could snow tomorrow around here.

Ron

--- On
Sat, 9/19/09, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Bill Gilroy
<wmgilroy at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No More Snow Chains
> To: "WFO
Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>,
"Wedge List" <tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>, "Ed's Spridgeteers"
<9issa at justbrits.com>
> Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 12:41 PM
> I think
these are like http://www.autosock.us/  I use snow tires and 4WD
> to
> get
over the pass in snow.
> 
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM, WFO Herb
<froggi60 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Know about these?  Used them?
> >
> >
> >
> > Video of Snow Grip:
> >
http://www.carid.com/images/snow-grip/snow-grip-popup_4.htm
> >
> > Company
Website:
> >
http://www.shurtrax.com/tire-traction-aid-tire-chain-roc60062.html
> >
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 13:43:59 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:43:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <441250190909191041s3d9a0da6x5e4cd0748ba8ee5e@mail.gmail.com>
	<522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909191243w52d08412r7890f473b219e361@mail.gmail.com>

Ron,

Check out

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=42.42244277484678&lon=-89.022216
796875&site=lot&smap=1&marine=0&unit=0&lg=en

*ROSCOE, IL=========*

*This Afternoon: *Mostly sunny, with a high near 77. East northeast wind
around 5 mph.

*Tonight: *Partly cloudy, with a low around 52. East southeast wind around 5
mph.

*Sunday: *A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after 1pm. Mostly
cloudy, with a high near 76. East southeast wind between 5 and 10 mph.

*Sunday Night: *A 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Cloudy,
with a low around 56. East southeast wind around 5 mph becoming calm.

*Monday: *A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy,
with a high near 75. Calm wind becoming south around 5 mph.

*Monday Night: *A chance of showers. Cloudy, with a low around 58. Chance of
precipitation is 30%.

*Tuesday: *A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy,
with a high near 75.

*Tuesday Night: *A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly
cloudy, with a low around 59.

*Wednesday: *A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms. Mostly cloudy,
with a high near 77.

*Wednesday Night: *Mostly cloudy, with a low around 55.

*Thursday: *Mostly sunny, with a high near 75.

*Thursday Night: *Partly cloudy, with a low around 51.

*Friday: *A slight chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 71.


On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Speaking of which, it's time after 70,000 miles to think about new tires
> for
> my wife's AWD Subaru crossover ute. What do you guys recommend for
> something
> with a winter bias? I don't care about the cost - tires are cheaper than
> bodywork. It's 75 today, but could snow tomorrow around here.
>
> Ron
>
> --- On
> Sat, 9/19/09, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Bill Gilroy
> <wmgilroy at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No More Snow Chains
> > To: "WFO
> Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>,
> "Wedge List" <tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>, "Ed's Spridgeteers"
> <9issa at justbrits.com>
> > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 12:41 PM
> > I think
> these are like http://www.autosock.us/  I use snow tires and 4WD
> > to
> > get
> over the pass in snow.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM, WFO Herb
> <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Know about these?  Used them?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Video of Snow Grip:
> > >
> http://www.carid.com/images/snow-grip/snow-grip-popup_4.htm
> > >
> > > Company
> Website:
> > >
> http://www.shurtrax.com/tire-traction-aid-tire-chain-roc60062.html
> > >
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not
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From conen at bellsouth.net  Sat Sep 19 13:50:37 2009
From: conen at bellsouth.net (Edmund Conen)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:50:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Latest projects
Message-ID: <427907.61454.qm@web180206.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

per David L...
>>You really ought to be looking for an older English Raleigh or
Phillips bike for her.

  Here in Raleigh, NC I happen to have an old Raleigh 'Record Ace' stashed in my attic.  It could be had... ;-) 
Ed in NC

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 19 14:53:45 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:53:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <441250190909191041s3d9a0da6x5e4cd0748ba8ee5e@mail.gmail.com>,
	<522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AB544D9.847.189F7CD@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I used Blizzaks on my old Subaru (gone to another home) and now use 
the same type on my Honda Civic.
Nice Snow and Ice tire that runs quiet.
Very ice on Ice but very deep snow can be a problem - the clearance 
under the Civic ain't that much  ;-((

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 16:45:48 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:45:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Projects
In-Reply-To: <402188520909190708t20539380wcddd7a52a5e19f1e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AB44EFE.3010601@comcast.net>
	<402188520909190708t20539380wcddd7a52a5e19f1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090909191545u65ed0f71h48770ec15fcabb11@mail.gmail.com>

I've got a 1971 Raleigh, ladies bike, but it appears to have mostly French
parts. The Simplex mechanics are pretty neat, as they all work, well.
Anyone care to buy it. I "could" get it up to Wisconsin, should there be any
interest.

Brad

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:08 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > And I also found a 67 Schwinn Starlet ladies bike in the trash today, I
> just
> > started on that. Beats the heck out of all the junk from china.
> > This will be grandma's *new* bike to replace her chinese made bike.
>
> You really ought to be looking for an older English Raleigh or
> Phillips bike for her.
> David L
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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 16:46:52 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:46:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thanks guys! Engine pickup from Wisconsin..
In-Reply-To: <61F6ED81-8F37-4261-B405-BD85C6ABADF8@comcast.net>
References: <61F6ED81-8F37-4261-B405-BD85C6ABADF8@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090909191546l16260331rd183b279e31ad8bb@mail.gmail.com>

I am glad I could be some help..
Thank YOU!!

Brad

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:

> Well I want to thank Brad, Ron, and Kris for the engine transport and
> manufacture.  Especially Brad as he knows some guys who know some guys and
> ..well..  the engine ended up only 4 hours from my house.
>
> Thanks guys!
>
>
> Lester
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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 16:53:37 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:53:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <441250190909191041s3d9a0da6x5e4cd0748ba8ee5e@mail.gmail.com>
	<522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <441250190909191553w63d854c9p1f97a8e1750c3851@mail.gmail.com>

I am firmly in Ron's camp about not skimping on tires.  The AWD in a Subaru
is really good, you should be able to use a good all season tire without any
problems.  I run winter tires on my cars and trucks mostly due living on a
mountain, the last couple of miles can be a real problem.

If you want the best winter tires you can't go wrong with a set of Nokian
Hakkapelitta.  They make both a winter tire and an all season Hakkapelitta.
I ran a set of Continental Viking snow tires on my wife's FWD Passat.  They
worked great on the mountian where we live.  We were able to get up and down
once there was some sand on the road.  When the factory tires on the Subaru
Outback wear out I think I will replace them with a set of Hakkapelitta all
season tires.

Whatever you decide on let us know how it works out.

Bill


On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Speaking of which, it's time after 70,000 miles to think about new tires
> for
> my wife's AWD Subaru crossover ute. What do you guys recommend for
> something
> with a winter bias? I don't care about the cost - tires are cheaper than
> bodywork. It's 75 today, but could snow tomorrow around here.
>
> Ron
>
> --- On
> Sat, 9/19/09, Bill Gilroy <wmgilroy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Bill Gilroy
> <wmgilroy at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No More Snow Chains
> > To: "WFO
> Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>,
> "Wedge List" <tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>, "Ed's Spridgeteers"
> <9issa at justbrits.com>
> > Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 12:41 PM
> > I think
> these are like http://www.autosock.us/  I use snow tires and 4WD
> > to
> > get
> over the pass in snow.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:30 PM, WFO Herb
> <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Know about these?  Used them?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Video of Snow Grip:
> > >
> http://www.carid.com/images/snow-grip/snow-grip-popup_4.htm
> > >
> > > Company
> Website:
> > >
> http://www.shurtrax.com/tire-traction-aid-tire-chain-roc60062.html
> > >
> _______________________________________________
> > > Support Team.Net
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> mythology starts with the false premise that these
> > are irreplaceable
> >
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> >
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> >
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From wmseverin at charter.net  Sat Sep 19 17:10:41 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:10:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <441250190909191553w63d854c9p1f97a8e1750c3851@mail.gmail.com>
References: <441250190909191041s3d9a0da6x5e4cd0748ba8ee5e@mail.gmail.com>
	<522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<441250190909191553w63d854c9p1f97a8e1750c3851@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <004701ca397e$68d766d0$3a863470$@net>

I second the vote for Nokian Hakkapelitta. Amazing tires.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Gilroy
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:54 PM
> To: Ron Soave
> Cc: Spridgeteers
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More
> Snow Chains
> 
> I am firmly in Ron's camp about not skimping on tires.  The AWD in a
> Subaru
> is really good, you should be able to use a good all season tire
> without any
> problems.  I run winter tires on my cars and trucks mostly due living
> on a
> mountain, the last couple of miles can be a real problem.
> 
> If you want the best winter tires you can't go wrong with a set of
> Nokian
> Hakkapelitta.  They make both a winter tire and an all season
> Hakkapelitta.
> I ran a set of Continental Viking snow tires on my wife's FWD Passat.
> They
> worked great on the mountian where we live.  We were able to get up and
> down
> once there was some sand on the road.  When the factory tires on the
> Subaru
> Outback wear out I think I will replace them with a set of Hakkapelitta
> all
> season tires.
> 
> Whatever you decide on let us know how it works out.
> 
> Bill

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 19 17:23:28 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:23:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <004701ca397e$68d766d0$3a863470$@net>
References: <441250190909191041s3d9a0da6x5e4cd0748ba8ee5e@mail.gmail.com>,
	<441250190909191553w63d854c9p1f97a8e1750c3851@mail.gmail.com>,
	<004701ca397e$68d766d0$3a863470$@net>
Message-ID: <4AB567F0.8908.2130A76@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I agree.... but I can't afford them   ;-((

On 19 Sep 2009 at 18:10, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:

>> I second the vote for Nokian Hakkapelitta. Amazing tires.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sat Sep 19 18:09:24 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 0:09:24 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <004701ca397e$68d766d0$3a863470$@net>
Message-ID: <20090920000924.BW6O8.551754.root@hrndva-web05-z01>

I ran the "Hocky Pucks" on many BMW's.  You can climb trees with them.

I currently run the Blizzaks due to a great deal and I'm OK with them except for dry pavement at the end of the year, and the rapid loss of traction when the tread wears out.

Chris

---- "Wm. Severin Thompson" <wmseverin at charter.net> wrote: 
> I second the vote for Nokian Hakkapelitta. Amazing tires.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Gilroy
> > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:54 PM
> > To: Ron Soave
> > Cc: Spridgeteers
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More
> > Snow Chains
> > 
> > I am firmly in Ron's camp about not skimping on tires.  The AWD in a
> > Subaru
> > is really good, you should be able to use a good all season tire
> > without any
> > problems.  I run winter tires on my cars and trucks mostly due living
> > on a
> > mountain, the last couple of miles can be a real problem.
> > 
> > If you want the best winter tires you can't go wrong with a set of
> > Nokian
> > Hakkapelitta.  They make both a winter tire and an all season
> > Hakkapelitta.
> > I ran a set of Continental Viking snow tires on my wife's FWD Passat.
> > They
> > worked great on the mountian where we live.  We were able to get up and
> > down
> > once there was some sand on the road.  When the factory tires on the
> > Subaru
> > Outback wear out I think I will replace them with a set of Hakkapelitta
> > all
> > season tires.
> > 
> > Whatever you decide on let us know how it works out.
> > 
> > Bill

From wmseverin at charter.net  Sat Sep 19 18:29:08 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:29:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <20090920000924.BW6O8.551754.root@hrndva-web05-z01>
References: <004701ca397e$68d766d0$3a863470$@net>
	<20090920000924.BW6O8.551754.root@hrndva-web05-z01>
Message-ID: <004b01ca3989$5e2e5d00$1a8b1700$@net>

Agreed... I had 4 of them on a BMW 325, and it would go anywhere my
Landcruiser would, until I'd high center it in extremely deep snow.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com [mailto:cmanuel at wi.rr.com]
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 7:09 PM
> To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Ron Soave'; 'Bill Gilroy'
> Cc: 'Spridgeteers'
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More
> Snow Chains
>
> I ran the "Hocky Pucks" on many BMW's.  You can climb trees with them.
>
> I currently run the Blizzaks due to a great deal and I'm OK with them
> except for dry pavement at the end of the year, and the rapid loss of
> traction when the tread wears out.
>
> Chris

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 18:57:02 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:57:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <004b01ca3989$5e2e5d00$1a8b1700$@net>
References: <004701ca397e$68d766d0$3a863470$@net>
	<20090920000924.BW6O8.551754.root@hrndva-web05-z01>
	<004b01ca3989$5e2e5d00$1a8b1700$@net>
Message-ID: <402188520909191757v783609a4qd1ea5513c37024b9@mail.gmail.com>

> Agreed... I had 4 of them on a BMW 325, and it would go anywhere my
> Landcruiser would, until I'd high center it in extremely deep snow.

OTOH, I vividly recall the beauty of seeing a WRX STi with the hockey
pucks on all four corners assin around in a parking lot of snow. Right
up until he managed to high-center it on a snowbank in such a way that
not one of the wheels could get a grip on anything. The look on his
face was priceless, cuz he KNEW that he had the best snow tires money
could buy on an AWD vehicle with fancy LSD, etc and this simply could
NOT happen ;-)
David L

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Sep 19 20:04:28 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:04:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <004701ca397e$68d766d0$3a863470$@net>
References: <441250190909191041s3d9a0da6x5e4cd0748ba8ee5e@mail.gmail.com>
	<522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<441250190909191553w63d854c9p1f97a8e1750c3851@mail.gmail.com>
	<004701ca397e$68d766d0$3a863470$@net>
Message-ID: <4AB58DAC.1040103@comcast.net>

Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
> I second the vote for Nokian Hakkapelitta. Amazing tires.
>
>   
Geeze, at least I can pronounce good ole Falken tires
So why not get some Falken tires.
But do not get any of those falkin chinese tires.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 21:32:58 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:32:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - tire recommendation (was Re: No More Snow
 Chains
In-Reply-To: <4AB58DAC.1040103@comcast.net>
References: <441250190909191041s3d9a0da6x5e4cd0748ba8ee5e@mail.gmail.com>
	<522230.86115.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<441250190909191553w63d854c9p1f97a8e1750c3851@mail.gmail.com>
	<004701ca397e$68d766d0$3a863470$@net> <4AB58DAC.1040103@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909192032n19a25a08hb2623383e13c3dee@mail.gmail.com>

Falken A!!!

Jim

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> But do not get any of those falkin chinese tires.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 19 22:47:03 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:47:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The car of the future
Message-ID: <002e01ca39ad$6689e900$339dbb00$@net>

.was the car of the past, but out comes another again!

 

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/driving/article6840652.ece

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 05:56:11 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 07:56:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Projects
In-Reply-To: <CED18303536245DC9BC4CC0F8271D396@cooper>
References: <4AB44EFE.3010601@comcast.net>
	<CED18303536245DC9BC4CC0F8271D396@cooper>
Message-ID: <205cef430909200456n43315837r1c726f15330dbb94@mail.gmail.com>

I can't see them ether any other links?
Lin

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 4:52 AM, Martin <cooper6 at swbell.net> wrote:

> Frank, snap fish album link not working.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank
> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 22:25
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Projects
>
> Now that I figured out my wife's new camera, I put a couple pictures of
> my latest projects on snapfish.
> Not an LBC, well wait a minute, yes an LBC, Little Baby Carriage and a
> 1963 chain drive tricycle complete with MG/Austin Healey badge ;)
> Ok, so I;m a bit early on the grandkid's toys, but at this rate I'll
> have his Bugeye all restored before he's 3 years old!
>
> http://www2.snapfish.com/thumbnailshare/AlbumID=2335582013/
>
> And I also found a 67 Schwinn Starlet ladies bike in the trash today, I
> just started on that. Beats the heck out of all the junk from china.
> This will be grandma's *new* bike to replace her chinese made bike.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 05:59:32 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 07:59:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Route 66 Rendezvous
In-Reply-To: <d49b03130909182340r73c8427bqa054d9062d396cd0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03130909182340r73c8427bqa054d9062d396cd0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909200459g5bfb32f6v9ee9e50011a708fe@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like fun too bad for the guy with the blower.
Lin

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 2:40 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <
rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

> They are having the Annual Route 66 Rendezvous event here in San Bernardino
> this weekend.  Great venue for car guys.  Just for fun, I drove the Bugeye
> around town (hot rodders are everywhere) to see some of the cars.  Got
> quite
> a few of the participants pull up next to me and ask if I was headed for
> the
> Redezvous.  I said, "no, I just live around here."   Some beautiful customs
> out there tonight.  One guy with a nice Mopar with a blower sticking out of
> the hood, blew his motor while my son and I was watching him rev the hell
> out of it.  Going to be a great, but very hot weekend around here.  Too bad
> I have to work.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 06:16:33 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:16:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] nice Speedwell Sprite eBay 180408367811
Message-ID: <205cef430909200516u6af5862bsa2bc6893b20d0b48@mail.gmail.com>

Nice little Speedwell blue Sprite why isn't it bidding higher with only 1
day to go? eBay 180408367811
Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 06:24:28 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:24:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting hardtop on Bugeye eBay 360189869258
Message-ID: <205cef430909200524y676ec611t99c590ce426df0ae@mail.gmail.com>

List,
Interesting hardtop on Bugeye eBay 360189869258 I like how it seals onto the
rear deck but I can't say it is attractive.
Lin

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 06:42:31 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:42:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ...sold my dads co-op apartment day before my
 birthday : )
Message-ID: <205cef430909200542v10f7e4e9x2f9bc502d8411708@mail.gmail.com>

Not LBC sold my dads co-op apartment day before my birthday : ) I thought I
would have to forclose but it finally sold 20 months later so I will get my
20 months worth of cash back I'm very lucky & grateful.
Now maybe I can devote more time to my Spridget hobby : )
Thanks for all the wishes, prayers, and good karma to get it sold.
Lin

62 California Sprite "Pinky"
www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner

58 Sprite patiently waiting untouched project
http://tinyurl.com/dasc8j

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 08:41:24 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:41:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone see this...
Message-ID: <e98d88090909200741w237e03dfidaad20157c7ed6d3@mail.gmail.com>

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/05/18/bat-exclusive-50-car-california-barn-stash/

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 08:59:54 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:59:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone see this...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090909200741w237e03dfidaad20157c7ed6d3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090909200741w237e03dfidaad20157c7ed6d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909200759u519acb39m66ada5c386bbf157@mail.gmail.com>

> http://bringatrailer.com/2009/05/18/bat-exclusive-50-car-california-barn-stash/

ISTR seeing all those pictures before. Don't hold your breath on any
of those actually being sold.
David L

From sales at justbrits.com  Sun Sep 20 11:47:23 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:47:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone see this...
In-Reply-To: <402188520909200759u519acb39m66ada5c386bbf157@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090909200741w237e03dfidaad20157c7ed6d3@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909200759u519acb39m66ada5c386bbf157@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB66AAB.8090509@justbrits.com>

<< ISTR seeing all those pictures before. >>

Yer correct, David. 
And looks like the exact same pics;
nothing 'gone'.

Ed

From sales at justbrits.com  Sun Sep 20 12:21:46 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:21:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone see this...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090909200741w237e03dfidaad20157c7ed6d3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e98d88090909200741w237e03dfidaad20157c7ed6d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB672BA.2050809@justbrits.com>

<<http://bringatrailer.com/2009/05/18/bat-exclusive-50-car-california-barn-stash/ 

-- DON JULIO 1942
 >>

2nd or 3rd time posted, Brad.

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun Sep 20 20:46:50 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:46:50 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Clear lacquer finish
Message-ID: <946101735-1253501198-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2026522563-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

So I was stripping a fender down with the angle grinder and thought, "how would it look to skip the bondo, skip the paint and primer and just seal the bare metal with rustoleum clear lacquer?" Later, I might ruminate on sentence structure and the modern run on.
I know that lotus sold many sevens like this, but I'm not aware of any steel cars.  Obviously, it's a matter of taste, much like a flat black rat rod. But I also wonder if it might have a cool look. Scars and all.  I have to decide if I like the welded in panels as they happen.  Has anyone seen cars like this? What clear finish would work? And could I still paint over it later if I changed my mind, or would I have to restrip the car?
Drew
Always some crazy scheme.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 20 22:15:21 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:15:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... ALL of "THE BEATLES" songs
In-Reply-To: <A272FB836ACC463C9C57E2605DDCFE17@MyDesktop>
References: <SNT118-DS10F8974903455909FA8C98EDF0@phx.gbl>
	<2ad6c6b10909182118y53f08319q1949d5d82e6d79de@mail.gmail.com>
	<8069D59098364DB284B5F7BF926D869B@MyDesktop>
	<20090920060627.UNZE21106.fed1rmmtao105.cox.net@fed1rmimpo03.cox.net>
	<A272FB836ACC463C9C57E2605DDCFE17@MyDesktop>
Message-ID: <00b601ca3a72$2373e100$6a5ba300$@net>

Chuck Endicott wrote:  "What is it with this Beatles sudden popularity"

 

So what's the big deal with the Beatles.  They just had their bums whupped
by a grand 92-year old lady who had not had a #1 hit since 1952.  That was
TEN YEARS before the Beatles ever recorded a song.  In doing so, she became
the oldest artist-and she truly is an artist-to have a #1 hit in the history
of the industry!

 

Yes, Dame Vera Lynn, "the Forces sweetheart" in the darkest days of World
War II, when the British were fighting alone for their survival, has just
outsold the Beatles as the #1 album.   "We'll Meet Again - The Very Best of
Vera Lynn", has 24 songs that will forever bring back memories of wartime
Britain, including "A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square" and "White Cliffs
of Dover".

 

None of her songs will ever bring out more goose bumps or put so many lumps
in throats as "We'll Meet Again (don't know where, don't know when).  For so
many, the words evoke sad memories of a final farewell as young men went in
harm's way, never to return, and has since been a melancholy reminder of
when a flickering flame of a love long past was snuffed out.

 

When Dame Vera's album became the first time a 90+ year old artist reached
the top 20, people were flabbergasted.  No one could understand how the
album hit the top 10, and they thought it had surely plateaued.   But it
hadn't.  It went on to outsell the Beatles' collection, and that of the
"Arctic Monkeys".  You are right, Dame Vera had never heard of them, and
thought the name downright uncomfortably cold!

 

http://tinyurl.com/kkdypk

http://tinyurl.com/q8w55b

http://tinyurl.com/me89ld

 

Alas, Dame Vera never made any money out of her historic recordings.  She
received a paycheck, and all the royalties went to Decca!

From pilotrob at msn.com  Mon Sep 21 00:40:10 2009
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:40:10 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... ALL of "THE BEATLES" songs
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV43F7673F0DDB9C84319F5D4DD0@phx.gbl>

Vera Lynn.....so,  that was her name.

I remember the voice like yesterday but
I never knew the name of that and other  well-known and famous songs of WW2 era 'til now. 

Thankyou, Buster. :)

CB

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Mon Sep 21 04:48:58 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:48:58 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... ALL of "THE BEATLES" songs
Message-ID: <648849349-1253530124-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1750354751-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

Chuck Endicott wrote:  "What is it with this Beatles sudden popularity"

I just picked up this thread, and this could be redundant.  The Beatles Rock Band video game just come out. It has stirred a renewed interest with kids and twenty and thirty age groups.  Also, michael jackson was running out of money before he died.  The rights to the Beatles was his largest (and highly leveraged) asset.  Rereleasing "new" albums has been a fairly reliable way to generate cash. 
Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 21 06:50:04 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:50:04 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... ALL of "THE BEATLES" songs
In-Reply-To: <648849349-1253530124-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1750354751-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <648849349-1253530124-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1750354751-@bda899.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W21076444D2C162FD857B9DB8DD0@phx.gbl>

Way back when, audiophiles used to buy Japanese imports to get better sound
from their stereos.  These CDs are digitally remastered and will probably
attract alot of those same people.



> Chuck Endicott wrote: "What is it with this Beatles sudden popularity"
>
> I just picked up this thread, and this could be redundant. The Beatles Rock
Band video game just come out. It has stirred a renewed interest with kids and
twenty and thirty age groups. Also, michael jackson was running out of money
before he died. The rights to the Beatles was his largest (and highly
leveraged) asset. Rereleasing "new" albums has been a fairly reliable way to
generate cash.
> Drew

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Sep 21 08:08:27 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:08:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... ALL of "THE BEATLES" songs
In-Reply-To: <00b601ca3a72$2373e100$6a5ba300$@net>
References: <SNT118-DS10F8974903455909FA8C98EDF0@phx.gbl>,
	<A272FB836ACC463C9C57E2605DDCFE17@MyDesktop>,
	<00b601ca3a72$2373e100$6a5ba300$@net>
Message-ID: <4AB788DB.18381.1D89A9@kk7ss.verizon.net>

As with Sir Harry Lauders' "Keep right on to the end of the road"
Written by him in 1917 to memorialise the death oh his son at Poizer, 
France, it is still one of my favorite WW2 songs..


On 20 Sep 2009 at 21:15, Robert Evans wrote:

>>  For so
>> many, the words evoke sad memories of a final farewell as young men
>> went in harm's way, never to return


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From breton48 at live.com  Mon Sep 21 09:20:40 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:20:40 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] sir Harry Lauder's song and British cars meet
In-Reply-To: <4AB788DB.18381.1D89A9@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <SNT118-DS10F8974903455909FA8C98EDF0@phx.gbl>,
	<A272FB836ACC463C9C57E2605DDCFE17@MyDesktop>,
	<00b601ca3a72$2373e100$6a5ba300$@net>
	<4AB788DB.18381.1D89A9@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS2C91AAFA19968BAF5366AAFDD0@phx.gbl>

Dave G. wrote...
As with Sir Harry Lauders' "Keep right on to the end of the road"
Written by him in 1917 to memorialise the death oh his son at Poizer, 
France, it is still one of my favorite WW2 songs..

-------------------------------------------------

I only knew "Keep right on to the end of the road" as the Birmingham City
Football club "anthem"! I never realized the deeper meaning of that song.
Where is Poizer in France? Never heard of that place, and a google search
came empty.

Now back to LBCs: Yesterday I drove my Lotus 7 to the 2009 Colorado English
Motoring Conclave at Oak Park, Arvada, near Denver. They were expecting 600
cars, and I think there might have been that many, no doubt helped with
gorgeous and not too hot (78 F) sunny weather. Quite a few Spridgets, of
course, including a 1960 Bugeye "race car" which definitely caught my eye -
it looked like a very clean, original Bugeye with just enough mods to pass
the tech inspection. There was a a bike section, and it was nice to see a
Scott, Two Vincents, and a Brough superior. Only one BSA (a Starfire 250 cc)
displayed, which surprised me, and many Triumphs, which did  not.

JLC in Colorado Springs

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 21 09:25:40 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:25:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] sir Harry Lauder's song and British cars meet
In-Reply-To: <BLU134-DS2C91AAFA19968BAF5366AAFDD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49053.9981.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 9/21/09, JLC <breton48 at live.com> wrote:
> Now back to LBCs: Yesterday I drove my Lotus 7 to the 2009
> Colorado English
> Motoring Conclave at Oak Park, Arvada, near Denver. 

Way better day than me. I went to the "Beloit WI Autorama". The cas looked like the people of Beloit - big, bloated Americqan stuff that hasn't been well-taken care of. There were maybe 1000 cars, and the only Ferrin one was a P-1800 Volvo. No one really wanted to go, but me and Colby the Rescue Dog enjoyed ourselves anyway.

Ron

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Sep 21 09:40:49 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:40:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Cruise
Message-ID: <8405ti$6sjjcs@email.mtu.edu>

I went to the Downtown Business Association Cruise-n-car show here on 
Friday. Same kinds of cars as the "Beloit WI Autorama". I was behind 
an old Plymouth Satellite in the cruise. We sat for 10 minutes - 
engines running - waiting for the cars to leave the staging area. The 
Plymouth had two sewer pipe exhausts spewing gray fumes and dripping 
tar with bits of dinosaur bones on the pavement. My wife was trying 
to breath through the cloth in her elbow (sneeze in your elbow, 
breath into your elbow - it's the all purpose save your life 
prophylactic these days.) Weather was great though. Two MGB's and a 
Triumph participated in the parade so a good evening. Two King 
Midgets also drove the cruise - not to be confused with MG Midgets.

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From breton48 at live.com  Mon Sep 21 09:51:04 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:51:04 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Cruise
In-Reply-To: <8405ti$6sjjcs@email.mtu.edu>
References: <8405ti$6sjjcs@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS112FF99F0394BC0A2871AAFDD0@phx.gbl>

Tim C. and Ron S.,

It seems I went to the more enjoyable car meet yesterday! By the way, if any
Spridgeteers is close enough for a day or two day trip to Denver, the
Colorado English Motoring Conclave is worth it. Sunday is show day, but they
also have a 150 miles or so cruise on the Saturday.

By the way, I wrote how gorgeous the weather was yesterday... today it is
snowing in the Black Forest!

JLC

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Sep 21 10:09:39 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:09:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] sir Harry Lauder's song and British cars meet
In-Reply-To: <BLU134-DS2C91AAFA19968BAF5366AAFDD0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-DS10F8974903455909FA8C98EDF0@phx.gbl>,
	<4AB788DB.18381.1D89A9@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<BLU134-DS2C91AAFA19968BAF5366AAFDD0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4AB7A543.1709.8C823C@kk7ss.verizon.net>

On 21 Sep 2009 at 9:20, JLC wrote:
>>  Where is Poizer in France? Never heard of that place, and a
>> google search came empty.
Sorry... I used the English spelling... In France it is spelt 'Pozieres' - about 20 miles NE of Amiens

>> a bike section, and it was nice to see a Scott, Two Vincents, and a
>> Brough superior. Only one BSA (a Starfire 250 cc) displayed, which
>> surprised me, and many Triumphs, which did  not.
I wish I had some foresight... at one time as a teenager in the mid 
'50's , amid many other bikes,  I owned a Scott Flying Squirrel and a 
Vincent Black Shadow. 
Back then they were just considered "old Iron" !! 
Just like the Bentley Red Laberl I bought for $200 and sold it after 
a week because it had a hole in the exhaust...

Where the heck was my crystal ball when I needed it ??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 10:44:01 2009
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:44:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lots of L.B.C.s
Message-ID: <8C80C74CBE1B4CBB91A4904F78B00E1E@Inspiron>

The local Toronto Triumph Club had their annual car show yesterday at a place
called Bronte Park, which is about a mile from my house, it was a nice short
drive. There was well over 1000 L.B.C.s that showed up, everything from
Austin's to Zephyrs and everything in between the Brits made for the last 90
years. There were about 30 old British bikes, a nice Vincent Black Shadow with
matching side car.

This year they were celebrating 100 years for Morgan, 50 years for Triumph
Herald, Austin Mini, and Sunbeam Alpine, and 40 years for the TR6. It was a
great car show, the weather perfect, this event just finished 26 years, it has
rain 3 times during that time. I even saw 12 Delorians there, (built in
Ireland) I forgot how ugly they are.

Greg Higgins
63 sprite

From mikey at b2systems.com  Mon Sep 21 11:29:57 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:29:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] sir Harry Lauder's song and British cars meet
In-Reply-To: <4AB7A543.1709.8C823C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <SNT118-DS10F8974903455909FA8C98EDF0@phx.gbl> ,
	<4AB788DB.18381.1D89A9@kk7ss.verizon.net> ,
	<BLU134-DS2C91AAFA19968BAF5366AAFDD0@phx.gbl>
	<4AB7A543.1709.8C823C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1253554198.3811.70.camel@WebBrowser>

On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 09:09 -0700, Dave G. wrote:
> Just like the Bentley Red Laberl I bought for $200 and sold it after 
> a week because it had a hole in the exhaust...
 
 You are a fool !!! oh wait, I did the same thing back in high school.
I did not have the metal skills or knowledge on how to fit a big V8 in
my 1931 S Type Invicta so I sold it (sold it for more than I paid for
it, even though it no longer ran and it ran when I bought it).

 I try to look at it with the attitude of "I saved another one" since I
did not butcher it.  Saw my Invicta 30 years later at Laguna Seca
historics, the people who owned it after me "did done good", way better
than I ever would have at 16.

	mike

From nory1 at roadrunner.com  Mon Sep 21 11:48:27 2009
From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:48:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Lots of L.B.C.s
In-Reply-To: <8C80C74CBE1B4CBB91A4904F78B00E1E@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <20090921174827.477AI.609686.root@hrndva-web04-z01>

Well, gee, you should have told us about it BEFORE the show!  So we could ALL go!

LOL!



---- Greg Higgins <g.h.higgins at gmail.com> wrote: 
> The local Toronto Triumph Club had their annual car show yesterday at a place
> called Bronte Park, which is about a mile from my house, it was a nice short
> drive. There was well over 1000 L.B.C.s that showed up, everything from
> Austin's to Zephyrs and everything in between the Brits made for the last 90
> years. There were about 30 old British bikes, a nice Vincent Black Shadow with
> matching side car.
> 
> This year they were celebrating 100 years for Morgan, 50 years for Triumph
> Herald, Austin Mini, and Sunbeam Alpine, and 40 years for the TR6. It was a
> great car show, the weather perfect, this event just finished 26 years, it has
> rain 3 times during that time. I even saw 12 Delorians there, (built in
> Ireland) I forgot how ugly they are.
> 
> Greg Higgins
> 63 sprite
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Sep 21 13:03:24 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:03:24 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Clear lacquer finish
Message-ID: <cfa.6365e29c.37e927fc@aol.com>

Delorean!
 
In a message dated 21/09/2009 03:52:03 GMT Daylight Time,  
andrewpayne at intrex.net writes:

but I'm  not aware of any steel cars

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Mon Sep 21 13:08:53 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:08:53 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] sir Harry Lauder's song and British cars meet
Message-ID: <d68.4d0449fd.37e92945@aol.com>

You lucky people.  
 
My nose ran like a tap all day and I had a sore throat.  The cooker  & 
grill died and I had to prematurely start to 'remodel' the kitchen read  for a 
gas cooker (not petrol).  For those few listers who have seen my  kitchen 
they might not consider premature is a correct use of the word..
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 21/09/2009 16:26:03 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com 
 writes:

Yesterday

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Mon Sep 21 13:55:52 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:55:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Clear lacquer finish
In-Reply-To: <cfa.6365e29c.37e927fc@aol.com>
References: <cfa.6365e29c.37e927fc@aol.com>
Message-ID: <B5C7C43FE74B41A98AAFFEE6F8E91319@AndrewHP>

Thought of that one AFTER my coffee this morning!

 

Drew

 

  _____  

From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 3:03 PM
To: andrewpayne at intrex.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Clear lacquer finish

 

Delorean!

 

In a message dated 21/09/2009 03:52:03 GMT Daylight Time,
andrewpayne at intrex.net writes:

but I'm not aware of any steel cars

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 14:10:35 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:10:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] sir Harry Lauder's song and British cars meet
In-Reply-To: <d68.4d0449fd.37e92945@aol.com>
References: <d68.4d0449fd.37e92945@aol.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909211310y3d3f3488l9181ad7804f3876b@mail.gmail.com>

> My nose ran like a tap all day and I had a sore throat.  The cooker  &
> grill died and I had to prematurely start to 'remodel' the kitchen read  for
a
> gas cooker (not petrol).

Now why would anyone want to cook gas in their kitchen?
David L

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 21 16:57:01 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:57:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

6 figure estimate below looks to be good. The owner knows exactly what he has
- reserve not met at $75K with almost 2 days remaining. It only takes two
people to make an auction interesting, and I bet there are 2 in the world who
want the car bad enough to make this worth watching...

(Item number:
300348776161 in case you're not watching)

--- On Fri, 9/18/09, Ron Soave
<soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Subject:
Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
> To: "Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>, kk7ss at verizon.net
> Date: Friday, September 18,
2009, 12:28 PM
> --- On Fri, 9/18/09, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
The car or the starting price??
> 
> The car. It should fetch 6 figures.
> 
>
Ron
> 
> 
>       

From chris_west at juno.com  Mon Sep 21 17:50:30 2009
From: chris_west at juno.com (chris_west)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:50:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] clear lacquer finish
Message-ID: <20090921.165944.23531.99173@mailpop11.vgs.untd.com>

Drew wrote:

I know that lotus sold many sevens like this, but I'm not aware of any
steel cars.  Obviously, it's a matter of taste, much like a flat black
rat rod. But I also wonder if it might have a cool look. Scars and all. 
I have to decide if I like the welded in panels as they happen.  Has
anyone seen cars like this? What clear finish would work? And could I
still paint over it later if I changed my mind, or would I have to
restrip the car?
Drew

_________________________________________________________________________
_________________________________________________________________________
______________

Drew - I think clear lacquer could possibly work over bare metal if it
was absolutely clean and rust free.  When I worked in a welding products
factory we used clear lacquer to protect the bare copper tips from
oxidation.  This would, however, wear off with repeated handling so
quality control testing was done wearing white cotton gloves to protect
the finish.  Bare metal (of any sort AFAIK) is not a suitable substrate
for any automotive enamel, either single stage (acrylic) or 2 part
(urethane or epoxy), including clear coat, if it is not first primed.  If
there were absolutely no rust, you could prime with a product such as
Permatex "Extend", which dries clear in the absence of rust.  Any little
rust pinpoints, however, would turn black.  You would then clearcoat
directly over this "primed" surface.  You can color coat over the
"Extend" but the clear would need to be stripped first.  And BTW, the
Delorean was stainless steel, maintained with steel wool (stainless, of
course) or nylon "Scotchbrite" pads.

Chris        
AN5L355xx
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Sep 21 18:10:59 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:10:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
References: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <93EB78EE6EC34705A5D5557157FEE420@blackbox2>

Plenty of interest.   I just don't think the reserve will be met.

I hate reserve auctions.  The true value of an item is not established 
by some whim of the seller, it is what a competitive market is willing to pay.
Either the seller is serious about selling it or not.   If the seller is not serious then
the whole thing is just big waste of everybody's time and where the seller is trying
to find out what the item is worth.

I would rather the seller just start the auction at the minimum they are willing to
accept and let it go up from that point.

No need to make an easter egg hunt out of it.  

Even worse is the reserve will not be met, and the seller will contact
the highest bidders after the auction is over and you and I will never know
what it went for.  


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>



>6 figure estimate below looks to be good. The owner knows exactly what he has
> - reserve not met at $75K with almost 2 days remaining. 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 21 18:34:37 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:34:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3763D4C327F844109BC4D274A5950F01@HomePC>

I really liked that car, but it lost me several tens of thousands ago.

Evidently, I wasn't the only one to like it.

Good luck to anybody here still in the hunt.


LAD

P.S. That thing is so cool looking that I'll bet an enterprising soul could
make a fortune by making replica body panels.



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:57 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay

> 6 figure estimate below looks to be good. The owner knows exactly what he 
> has
> - reserve not met at $75K with almost 2 days remaining. It only takes two
> people to make an auction interesting, and I bet there are 2 in the world 
> who
> want the car bad enough to make this worth watching...
>
> (Item number:
> 300348776161 in case you're not watching)

From sales at justbrits.com  Mon Sep 21 18:44:37 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:44:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <3763D4C327F844109BC4D274A5950F01@HomePC>
References: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<3763D4C327F844109BC4D274A5950F01@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4AB81DF5.30500@justbrits.com>

<< Good luck to anybody here still in the hunt. >>

Larry, IMHO you 'shoulda' penned "....dream hunt."  !!!

< V V V B G >

Wistful Ed

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep 21 18:50:26 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:50:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <F4F5B95DA0A541E0BCE216980E09E839@spider>

What was the rented exotic car that they took body molds off of years ago?
They pulled the roof one before it was set up, and every roof panel since
then is sagged?  ...bill in oregon
============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 17:35
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay

 . . .

LAD

P.S. That thing is so cool looking that I'll bet an enterprising soul could
make a fortune by making replica body panels.
--------------------------------------------------

From sales at justbrits.com  Mon Sep 21 18:59:42 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:59:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <93EB78EE6EC34705A5D5557157FEE420@blackbox2>
References: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<93EB78EE6EC34705A5D5557157FEE420@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4AB8217E.2090503@justbrits.com>

Whilst your points are very good Dean....

<<...where the seller is trying
to find out what the item is worth. >>


I seriously doubt (in this case) the Seller does
NOT already have a VERY good idea <VBG> !!!!

Ed

From derbydave at cox.net  Mon Sep 21 19:16:35 2009
From: derbydave at cox.net (derbydave at cox.net)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:16:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
Message-ID: <29F32C2E36154B6D818412521BB8405B@Dave>

Running a 1275cc with a DCOE 45 13 Weber (made in Italy) Dual Sidedraft
Brevettato in 59 bugeye and have suffered all summer with erratic idle speed
and inconsistent return to stable idle.

My winter project is to correct this problem.

It looks like the ball bearings in the throttle shaft need to be replaced.
Everything I read said this is a differcult repair and that I should either
replace the Carb or send it to Weber to have it repaired. (Note...I have
novice mechanical ability but willing to learn).
QUESTIONS....
1. Should I try this repair myself or should I send it back to Weber. Does
anyone have the address for Weber if I elect to send it back?
2. If I elect to purchase a new one..Do I purchase the same one and where do I
buy it at?? I seeing prices from $399 up to $899. Why the large spread?

Thanks in advance for the help.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 19:57:54 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:57:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 2010 Spridget Calendar
Message-ID: <402188520909211857g35749caehaa7078e4627dfb02@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, it IS high time I got to work on it. Rather hard to do when the
driving season is winding down around me. Oh well.

Anyhow, by now you have had plenty of opportunities to be photographed
in your Spridget this year. Please email some of your favorites to
spridget.calendar at gmail.com for me. I would appreciate it if there was
a bit of a blurb reminding me who you are and the circumstances of the
photo, etc. ALL Spridgets are welcome. 1500 Midgets tend to be
under-represented merely because I do not get many photos of them sent
to me. Arkleys are invisible for the same reason. I doubt that I would
dedicate a page to Arkleys, but I haven't had to worry about it yet.

I DO intend to dedicate the June page to pictures of Spridgets at Road
America, so be sure to send me some of those if you have them (you
REALLY do not want me to have to use the trash that I shoot!).
There will also likely be a page dedicated to photos of "Midgets with
Giants"; Spridgets posed by those lovely fiberglas "Muffler Men", Paul
Bunyons, etc., so go shoot your car by one of those if you can find
one.
David L

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Sep 21 20:09:57 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:09:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
In-Reply-To: <29F32C2E36154B6D818412521BB8405B@Dave>
References: <29F32C2E36154B6D818412521BB8405B@Dave>
Message-ID: <4A0F36EA-900F-4926-82E1-C0CD20DB2DC2@comcast.net>

How many hundreds of thousands of miles are on the carb?  While  
possible that the bearings are bad it would seem to be low on the  
list, more likely are a proper lack of synchronized carbs or  
butterflies not being allowed to fully close.

Lester

.. I just spent a few hours synching the 3 carbs on the XKE and thw  
worst problem was not having the connection to the throttle loose  
enough to allow the carbs to go to fully closed.


On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:16 PM, <derbydave at cox.net> <derbydave at cox.net>  
wrote:

> Running a 1275cc with a DCOE 45 13 Weber (made in Italy) Dual  
> Sidedraft
> Brevettato in 59 bugeye and have suffered all summer with erratic  
> idle speed
> and inconsistent return to stable idle.
>
> My winter project is to correct this problem.
>
> It looks like the ball bearings in the throttle shaft need to be  
> replaced.
> Everything I read said this is a differcult repair and that I should  
> either
> replace the Carb or send it to Weber to have it repaired. (Note...I  
> have
> novice mechanical ability but willing to learn).
> QUESTIONS....
> 1. Should I try this repair myself or should I send it back to  
> Weber. Does
> anyone have the address for Weber if I elect to send it back?
> 2. If I elect to purchase a new one..Do I purchase the same one and  
> where do I
> buy it at?? I seeing prices from $399 up to $899. Why the large  
> spread?
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Mon Sep 21 20:12:14 2009
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:12:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <200909220212.n8M2COCg022581@mail.usimperio.com>

A guy I know has one in Felton, PA and says it should go for around 
$125,00 his is green. He has a website but the car isn't listed.
http://www.octagonauto.com/Home.aspx
This is where I bought my Morris Van.

Dave

From millerls at ado13.com  Mon Sep 21 20:22:21 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:22:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
In-Reply-To: <29F32C2E36154B6D818412521BB8405B@Dave>
References: <29F32C2E36154B6D818412521BB8405B@Dave>
Message-ID: <5AE72D68-70A0-4C36-B847-D1574150416F@ado13.com>

Sales: 1-800-874-3728
Tech:1-408-842-6667

piercemanifolds.com



Let Pierce do it. New one should be cheaper also.

On Sep 21, 2009, at 6:16 PM, <derbydave at cox.net> <derbydave at cox.net>  
wrote:

> Running a 1275cc with a DCOE 45 13 Weber (made in Italy) Dual  
> Sidedraft
> Brevettato in 59 bugeye and have suffered all summer with erratic  
> idle speed
> and inconsistent return to stable idle.
>
> My winter project is to correct this problem.
>
> It looks like the ball bearings in the throttle shaft need to be  
> replaced.
> Everything I read said this is a differcult repair and that I should  
> either
> replace the Carb or send it to Weber to have it repaired. (Note...I  
> have
> novice mechanical ability but willing to learn).
> QUESTIONS....
> 1. Should I try this repair myself or should I send it back to  
> Weber. Does
> anyone have the address for Weber if I elect to send it back?
> 2. If I elect to purchase a new one..Do I purchase the same one and  
> where do I
> buy it at?? I seeing prices from $399 up to $899. Why the large  
> spread?
>
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From banjojohn at cox.net  Mon Sep 21 21:20:05 2009
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
Message-ID: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14>

Hi Spridget think tank:

I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
developed.  I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just died.
I coasted to the curb and called my wife to tell her I was having trouble.
Engine would crank but not even try to start again.  I sat for 4-5 minutes
and then tried again.  It started right up and ran perfectly normal the rest
of the way home.  I have had it do the same thing the last 2 times out.
Runs fine for 15 - 20 minutes. Then suddenly dies.  After a few minutes it
starts right up again and runs normally.  I'm worried that it is going to
quit and not come back to life the next time. The only work I had done
recently was to drop the fuel tank to reseal around the sender.  It had been
leaking when filled.  

Any ideas of what's going on?  I thought the coil might be going bad, so I
replaced it.  It happened again after.  I haven't been able to determine if
it's fuel or spark because it comes back to life before I can really try any
tests.  I have a clear fuel filter which is full of fuel when I look.  I put
in new Grose jets this spring. 

Thanks for any ideas

John O'Brien

'65 300 Mk III

'61 Bugeye Sprite (1275)

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Mon Sep 21 21:33:39 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:33:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
References: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <000a01ca3b35$7a8dcfa0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Faulty dizzy condenser?

Points too close?

Fuel pump quitting when it gets hot?

Somewhere a loose ignition wire?

Loose intake fuel pump hose?

Bad Karma on that road?

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John O'Brien" <banjojohn at cox.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:20 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop


> Hi Spridget think tank:
>
> I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
> developed.  I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just died.
> I coasted to the curb and called my wife to tell her I was having trouble.
> Engine would crank but not even try to start again.  I sat for 4-5 minutes
> and then tried again.  It started right up and ran perfectly normal the
rest
> of the way home.  I have had it do the same thing the last 2 times out.
> Runs fine for 15 - 20 minutes. Then suddenly dies.  After a few minutes it
> starts right up again and runs normally.  I'm worried that it is going to
> quit and not come back to life the next time. The only work I had done
> recently was to drop the fuel tank to reseal around the sender.  It had
been
> leaking when filled.
>
> Any ideas of what's going on?  I thought the coil might be going bad, so I
> replaced it.  It happened again after.  I haven't been able to determine
if
> it's fuel or spark because it comes back to life before I can really try
any
> tests.  I have a clear fuel filter which is full of fuel when I look.  I
put
> in new Grose jets this spring.
>
> Thanks for any ideas
>
> John O'Brien
>
> '65 300 Mk III
>
> '61 Bugeye Sprite (1275)
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 21 21:48:29 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:48:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
In-Reply-To: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14>
References: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W51EE58DF7AFEB4B949B71CCADC0@phx.gbl>

For lack of any good idea I think that you might want to check your points;
gap, dwell, whatever. I won't say that this is the problem but it might be a
good place to start looking. You want your dwell to be about 50, seeing that
would be a better test than checking the gap (although checking the gap would
be a good start too).
BillM

> From: banjojohn at cox.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0500
> Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
>
> Hi Spridget think tank:
>
> I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
> developed.  I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just died.
> I coasted to the curb and called my wife to tell her I was having trouble.
> Engine would crank but not even try to start again.  I sat for 4-5 minutes
> and then tried again.  It started right up and ran perfectly normal the
rest
> of the way home.  I have had it do the same thing the last 2 times out.
> Runs fine for 15 - 20 minutes. Then suddenly dies.  After a few minutes it
> starts right up again and runs normally.  I'm worried that it is going to
> quit and not come back to life the next time. The only work I had done
> recently was to drop the fuel tank to reseal around the sender.  It had
been
> leaking when filled.
>
> Any ideas of what's going on?  I thought the coil might be going bad, so I
> replaced it.  It happened again after.  I haven't been able to determine if
> it's fuel or spark because it comes back to life before I can really try
any
> tests.  I have a clear fuel filter which is full of fuel when I look.  I
put
> in new Grose jets this spring.
>
> Thanks for any ideas
>
> John O'Brien
>
> '65 300 Mk III
>
> '61 Bugeye Sprite (1275)
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From pilotrob at msn.com  Mon Sep 21 22:05:30 2009
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:05:30 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] parts
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV6F0E08E24B0AF4FA2FD31D4DC0@phx.gbl>

Got a used Bugeye conv. top frame for sale...good shape. New ones are going
for $355.00 new (unbeeleevable!!!) so $150.-plus shipping.

Also, have a new K&N chrome air filter suitable for 40-42 DCOE/Dellorto DHLA
(with Air Horns) or 45-48 DCOE (w/o Air Horns).

This is the large model oval (56-1340)....

9" X 5.25H X 3.25 Deep (.....it's a beautiful thing!!)

It's got nutcaps at each end rather than the old PITA/Get-in-the-Way single
center-cap.

1/2 price = $50.00 plus shipping.

CB

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 22:33:51 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:33:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W51EE58DF7AFEB4B949B71CCADC0@phx.gbl>
References: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14>
	<SNT123-W51EE58DF7AFEB4B949B71CCADC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909212133g30e99453t8d9a727083a24f9f@mail.gmail.com>

Coil.

Cheers!!
Banjo Jim

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>wrote:

> For lack of any good idea I think that you might want to check your points;
> gap, dwell, whatever. I won't say that this is the problem but it might be
> a
> good place to start looking. You want your dwell to be about 50, seeing
> that
> would be a better test than checking the gap (although checking the gap
> would
> be a good start too).
> BillM
>
> > From: banjojohn at cox.net
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0500
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
> >
> > Hi Spridget think tank:
> >
> > I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
> > developed.  I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just
> died.
> > I coasted to the curb and called my wife to tell her I was having
> trouble.
> > Engine would crank but not even try to start again.  I sat for 4-5
> minutes
> > and then tried again.  It started right up and ran perfectly normal the
> rest
> > of the way home.  I have had it do the same thing the last 2 times out.
> > Runs fine for 15 - 20 minutes. Then suddenly dies.  After a few minutes
> it
> > starts right up again and runs normally.  I'm worried that it is going to
> > quit and not come back to life the next time. The only work I had done
> > recently was to drop the fuel tank to reseal around the sender.  It had
> been
> > leaking when filled.
> >
> > Any ideas of what's going on?  I thought the coil might be going bad, so
> I
> > replaced it.  It happened again after.  I haven't been able to determine
> if
> > it's fuel or spark because it comes back to life before I can really try
> any
> > tests.  I have a clear fuel filter which is full of fuel when I look.  I
> put
> > in new Grose jets this spring.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas
> >
> > John O'Brien
> >
> > '65 300 Mk III
> >
> > '61 Bugeye Sprite (1275)
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not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Mon Sep 21 23:38:28 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:38:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0909212238x6a38063fgd38e28be034b7355@mail.gmail.com>

Gas cap not venting, next time it happens loosen the cap to see if there's
vacuum then try starting up again.
Just a guess...

Rick Bastedo

Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0500
From: "John O'Brien" <banjojohn at cox.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>


Hi Spridget think tank:

I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
developed.  I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just died.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 22 02:18:53 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:18:53 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
Message-ID: <bc4.51852161.37e9e26d@aol.com>

It must be a really old and well used carb for that to happen.  A good  
weber specialist ought to be able to do this for you.  There is a book  about 
Webers _www.veloce.co.uk_ (http://www.veloce.co.uk)  that shows  how to do 
this for yourself.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 22/09/2009 02:19:59 GMT Daylight Time, derbydave at cox.net 
 writes:

Running  a 1275cc with a DCOE 45 13 Weber (made in Italy) Dual Sidedraft
Brevettato  in 59 bugeye and have suffered all summer with erratic idle 
speed
and  inconsistent return to stable idle.

My winter project is to correct  this problem.

It looks like the ball bearings in the throttle shaft  need to be replaced.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 22 02:20:23 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:20:23 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
Message-ID: <c22.694860f7.37e9e2c7@aol.com>

Some of the new DCOEs are not as nice as the old ones, especially the ones  
made in Spain.
 
In a message dated 22/09/2009 03:23:02 GMT Daylight Time,  
millerls at ado13.com writes:

New one  should be cheaper also.

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Sep 22 05:01:50 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:01:50 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV63286E2C6502DF6FF6745C8DC0@phx.gbl>

You can squirt a bit of carb cleaner on the throttle shaft bearings and see if the idle changes which will help diagnose worn shaft bearings.

Also check for contamination within the idle jets and at the bottom of the fuel bowl as minute stuff will get by the carb's. mesh filter and clog the idle jet's tiny ports far more so than the larger ports of emulsion
tubes and main/air corrector jets.

Really minute stuff such as corrosion from the fuel tank/system will also get by even the best of fuel filters but you'll see this
(brown 'sludge') at the bottom of the fuel bowl if this is the case, though this minute stuff normally begins clogging the tiny progression holes as well eventually leading of off-idle roughness on initial gently acceleration as well as uneven or
less than stable idle.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:18 AM
To: derbydave at cox.net, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber Help

It must be a really old and well used carb for that to happen.  A good  
weber specialist ought to be able to do this for you.  There is a book  about 
Webers _www.veloce.co.uk_ (http://www.veloce.co.uk)  that shows  how to do 
this for yourself.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 22/09/2009 02:19:59 GMT Daylight Time, derbydave at cox.net 
 writes:

Running  a 1275cc with a DCOE 45 13 Weber (made in Italy) Dual Sidedraft
Brevettato  in 59 bugeye and have suffered all summer with erratic idle 
speed
and  inconsistent return to stable idle.

My winter project is to correct  this problem.

It looks like the ball bearings in the throttle shaft  need to be replaced.
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Sep 22 05:03:24 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:03:24 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV106F54078112CD990E3758C8DC0@phx.gbl>

....or (electric) fuel pump on the way out?

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Bastedo
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:38 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sudden stop

Gas cap not venting, next time it happens loosen the cap to see if there's
vacuum then try starting up again.
Just a guess...

Rick Bastedo

Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0500
From: "John O'Brien" <banjojohn at cox.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>


Hi Spridget think tank:

I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
developed.  I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just died.
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Sep 22 05:07:28 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:07:28 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets]  parts
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV8F45CDB63DD89DC62A65FC8DC0@phx.gbl>

Got a used Bugeye conv. top frame for sale...good shape. New ones are going
for $355.00 new (unbeeleevable!!!) so $150.-plus shipping.

Also, have a new K&N chrome air filter suitable for 40-42 DCOE/Dellorto DHLA
(with Air Horns) or 45-48 DCOE (w/o Air Horns).

This is the large model oval (56-1340)....

9" X 5.25H X 3.25 Deep (.....it's a beautiful thing!!)

It's got nutcaps at each end rather than the old PITA/Get-in-the-Way single
center-cap.

1/2 price = $50.00 plus shipping.

Also, a 6 bladed plastic fan in excellent cond. New for $50....so $20 + ship. :)

CB
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 06:13:59 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:13:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <3763D4C327F844109BC4D274A5950F01@HomePC>
References: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<3763D4C327F844109BC4D274A5950F01@HomePC>
Message-ID: <205cef430909220513m2887c602s67e1e612a656a7e8@mail.gmail.com>

Ditto very very hot LBC but out of my league too : )
Lin

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I really liked that car, but it lost me several tens of thousands ago.
>
> Evidently, I wasn't the only one to like it.
>
> Good luck to anybody here still in the hunt.
>
>
> LAD
>
> P.S. That thing is so cool looking that I'll bet an enterprising soul could
> make a fortune by making replica body panels.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:57 PM
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
>
>  6 figure estimate below looks to be good. The owner knows exactly what he
>> has
>> - reserve not met at $75K with almost 2 days remaining. It only takes two
>> people to make an auction interesting, and I bet there are 2 in the world
>> who
>> want the car bad enough to make this worth watching...
>>
>> (Item number:
>> 300348776161 in case you're not watching)
>>
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From breton48 at live.com  Tue Sep 22 06:36:31 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:36:31 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
In-Reply-To: <c22.694860f7.37e9e2c7@aol.com>
References: <c22.694860f7.37e9e2c7@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS257E37FC3BB9FFE83AFCDAFDC0@phx.gbl>

WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
Some of the new DCOEs are not as nice as the old ones, especially the ones  
made in Spain.
 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

What exactly do you mean by "not as nice"?  I was thinking of fitting two
new Weber 40 DCOS to my Lotus engine. Are all the new ones made in Spain? I
am aware of the Japanese copies too, but they don't make them in that size
(40 DCOE).

By the way, I recently had a car with the same problem - would start off
fine, then die on the road after anything from 6 to 12 miles. In that case,
it turned out to be rust in the tank that was clogging the carb, despite two
inline filters between the fuel pump and the carb. A cleaning and lining of
the tank solved that problem.

JLC

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 06:44:20 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:44:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV106F54078112CD990E3758C8DC0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV106F54078112CD990E3758C8DC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <205cef430909220544y265544cdu539625415e033cdf@mail.gmail.com>

My 62 gave me the same symptoms then the fuel pump "Made in China" finally
quit. I got a "Made in USA" and she fired right up. The interesting thing
was the old pump would appear to be working from time to time but I didn't
know she was not working till she finally stopped altogether.
Lin

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>wrote:

> ....or (electric) fuel pump on the way out?
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Bastedo
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:38 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
>
> Gas cap not venting, next time it happens loosen the cap to see if there's
> vacuum then try starting up again.
> Just a guess...
>
> Rick Bastedo
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0500
> From: "John O'Brien" <banjojohn at cox.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>
>
> Hi Spridget think tank:
>
> I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
> developed.  I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just died.
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From breton48 at live.com  Tue Sep 22 07:01:59 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:01:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post automotive lift
In-Reply-To: <1253554198.3811.70.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <SNT118-DS10F8974903455909FA8C98EDF0@phx.gbl> ,
	<4AB788DB.18381.1D89A9@kk7ss.verizon.net> ,
	<BLU134-DS2C91AAFA19968BAF5366AAFDD0@phx.gbl>
	<4AB7A543.1709.8C823C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<1253554198.3811.70.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS7B54A764A67AC5CAF5EACAFDC0@phx.gbl>

Well, after years of thinking about it, I finally splurged and bought a four
post automotive lift (BendPak HD-9). It was professionally installed
yesterday. The accessories I got with it are two rolling jacks (so I can
lift a car off the wheels to work on the suspension, etc) and an oil drain.
I agonized over getting the standard length or the extended length lift. In
the end, I went for the standard length, which will let me work on every
vehicle I have except my extended cab/long bed 3500 Chevy truck, soon to be
gone anyway as it outlived its purpose (hauling heavy stuff and trailering
from CA to CO).

JLC

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 22 07:37:55 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:37:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <13003D483B044C6D800A66818C82B3CB@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:57 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay

> 6 figure estimate below looks to be good. The owner knows exactly what he 
> has
> - reserve not met at $75K with almost 2 days remaining. It only takes two
> people to make an auction interesting, and I bet there are 2 in the world 
> who
> want the car bad enough to make this worth watching...
>
> (Item number:
> 300348776161 in case you're not watching)
======================

It hit $100K and the reserve has been met with 2 days to go.

Larry 

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Sep 22 08:07:19 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:07:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <13003D483B044C6D800A66818C82B3CB@HomePC>
References: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<13003D483B044C6D800A66818C82B3CB@HomePC>
Message-ID: <548F75F4-7E71-47A9-A797-C8B38A89112B@snet.net>

As enthusiastic as I am about Spridgets, there wasn't one made that  
would constitute $100,000 of excitement. (In or out of a museum.)

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT



On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:37 AM, "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> It hit $100K and the reserve has been met with 2 days to go.

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Sep 22 08:19:17 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:19:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
References: <929418.46651.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com><13003D483B044C6D800A66818C82B3CB@HomePC>
	<548F75F4-7E71-47A9-A797-C8B38A89112B@snet.net>
Message-ID: <6450824839FA48DCB277E98397BFF030@leovs802bt6yj7>

You have broken my heart Jay.  I thought that you were the high bidder:)

Leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Fishbein" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: "Spridget List" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay


> As enthusiastic as I am about Spridgets, there wasn't one made that
> would constitute $100,000 of excitement. (In or out of a museum.)
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT
>
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2009, at 7:37 AM, "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
>> It hit $100K and the reserve has been met with 2 days to go.
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Sep 22 09:20:56 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:20:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <4AB8EB58.23162.5D278E@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I'm thinking that the winner may not actually want to drive it.... he 
might just want to say " Look what I've got, and you haven't ! "

Unless his name is Nick Mason...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From breton48 at live.com  Tue Sep 22 09:47:34 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:47:34 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <4AB8EB58.23162.5D278E@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4AB8EB58.23162.5D278E@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS7C84EC8CCC5857F597FB5AFDC0@phx.gbl>

Dave G wrote:

I'm thinking that the winner may not actually want to drive it.... [snip]
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And for me that's the problem... I am to the point I am only interested in
owning cars I will drive, and I would not drive a "concours car" or a car
with such historic significance I could not bear to risk damaging it. 

JLC

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 22 09:48:11 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:48:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <4AB8EB58.23162.5D278E@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <874964.590.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:
> I'm thinking that the winner may not
> actually want to drive it.... he 
> might just want to say " Look what I've got, and you
> haven't ! "

I dunno - we had somethng like 19 Bugattis on the track at once a few years ago, Rob Walton drives his Shelby Daytona Coupe, and I drive White Trash ;-).

Ron

From mikey at b2systems.com  Tue Sep 22 10:30:07 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:30:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post automotive lift
In-Reply-To: <BLU134-DS7B54A764A67AC5CAF5EACAFDC0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-DS10F8974903455909FA8C98EDF0@phx.gbl> ,
	<4AB788DB.18381.1D89A9@kk7ss.verizon.net> ,
	<BLU134-DS2C91AAFA19968BAF5366AAFDD0@phx.gbl>
	<4AB7A543.1709.8C823C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<1253554198.3811.70.camel@WebBrowser>
	<BLU134-DS7B54A764A67AC5CAF5EACAFDC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1253637007.3811.90.camel@WebBrowser>

 Congrats on the lift, now prepare to be popular with all your friends
and even some neighbors.  Set some rules NOW and make sure your friends
know the rules or you will get a "quick" transmission job request and
the car will sit on your lift for over a month with no transmission
while he scrounges up the money to buy the parts. And make them haul
away their old oil :)

 mike

On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 07:01 -0600, JLC wrote:
> Well, after years of thinking about it, I finally splurged and bought a four
> post automotive lift (BendPak HD-9). It was professionally installed
> yesterday. The accessories I got with it are two rolling jacks (so I can
> lift a car off the wheels to work on the suspension, etc) and an oil drain.
> I agonized over getting the standard length or the extended length lift. In
> the end, I went for the standard length, which will let me work on every
> vehicle I have except my extended cab/long bed 3500 Chevy truck, soon to be
> gone anyway as it outlived its purpose (hauling heavy stuff and trailering
> from CA to CO).
> 
> JLC

From John.Deikis at va.gov  Tue Sep 22 12:39:08 2009
From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:39:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tow vehicle --No LBC
Message-ID: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402922301@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>

Been shopping for a replacement tow vehicle since "clunkering" my old
van.  Problem is, every truck in my price range has between 150,000 and
250,000 miles on it.  Although my van asked very little of me for over
270,000 miles, my past experience is that trucks pretty much need a
complete frontend rebuild somewhere around 150K-ball joints, tie rod
ends, bearings, etc.  Our old Ford Explorer easily cha-chinged a $3,000
garage bill at 150K to keep it roadworthy.



So, advice?  Should I stay away from anything that has not had a f/e
rebuild recently? Or spend money my wife won't give me and look for a
newer truck?



JohnD

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep 22 12:45:03 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:45:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tow vehicle --No LBC
In-Reply-To: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402922301@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
References: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402922301@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <BFF393A20D2F402D91D5139A1872307D@spider>

Get a Chevy truck from the 1950's.   ...bill in Oregon

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/old-chevy-truck/

 

=========================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Deikis, John G
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:39
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Tow vehicle --No LBC

 

Been shopping for a replacement tow vehicle since "clunkering" my old

van.  Problem is, every truck in my price range has between 150,000 and

250,000 miles on it.  Although my van asked very little of me for over

270,000 miles, my past experience is that trucks pretty much need a

complete frontend rebuild somewhere around 150K-ball joints, tie rod

ends, bearings, etc.  Our old Ford Explorer easily cha-chinged a $3,000

garage bill at 150K to keep it roadworthy.

 

So, advice?  Should I stay away from anything that has not had a f/e

rebuild recently? Or spend money my wife won't give me and look for a

newer truck?

 

JohnD

_______________________________________________

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Tue Sep 22 12:45:46 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:45:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tow vehicle --No LBC
References: <E866F92760144E4E860086F02E32EA9402922301@VHAV11MSGA1.v11.med.va.gov>
Message-ID: <00ce01ca3bb4$e6589ec0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Beg from your wife!

Paul A


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Deikis, John G" <John.Deikis at va.gov>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:39 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Tow vehicle --No LBC


> Or spend money my wife won't give me and look for a
> newer truck?
> 
> 
> 
> JohnD
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From breton48 at live.com  Tue Sep 22 12:47:25 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:47:25 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post automotive lift
In-Reply-To: <1253637007.3811.90.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <SNT118-DS10F8974903455909FA8C98EDF0@phx.gbl> ,
	<4AB788DB.18381.1D89A9@kk7ss.verizon.net> ,
	<BLU134-DS2C91AAFA19968BAF5366AAFDD0@phx.gbl>
	<4AB7A543.1709.8C823C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<1253554198.3811.70.camel@WebBrowser>
	<BLU134-DS7B54A764A67AC5CAF5EACAFDC0@phx.gbl>
	<1253637007.3811.90.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS3764C0572A196C0830691AFDC0@phx.gbl>

Mike wrote: Congrats on the lift, now prepare to be popular with all your
friends
and even some neighbors.  Set some rules NOW and make sure your friends
know the rules or you will get a "quick" transmission job request and
the car will sit on your lift for over a month with no transmission
while he scrounges up the money to buy the parts. And make them haul
away their old oil :)

--------------------------------

Mike,

Good advice, I am sure!

One thing... I bought a BendPak lift because they are made in the USA, or so
I believe  -  but I have just noticed the sticker on the side of each
BendPak supplied rolling jack, saying "made in China"! 

JLC

From mikey at b2systems.com  Tue Sep 22 13:00:46 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:00:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 4 post automotive lift
In-Reply-To: <BLU134-DS3764C0572A196C0830691AFDC0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT118-DS10F8974903455909FA8C98EDF0@phx.gbl> ,
	<4AB788DB.18381.1D89A9@kk7ss.verizon.net> ,
	<BLU134-DS2C91AAFA19968BAF5366AAFDD0@phx.gbl>
	<4AB7A543.1709.8C823C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<1253554198.3811.70.camel@WebBrowser>
	<BLU134-DS7B54A764A67AC5CAF5EACAFDC0@phx.gbl>
	<1253637007.3811.90.camel@WebBrowser>
	<BLU134-DS3764C0572A196C0830691AFDC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1253646046.3811.110.camel@WebBrowser>

 Well it could be just the rolling jacks that are made in China.

 I know BendPak has been talked about a lot in web forums, they sell
lifts made in China but assembled in the USA as well as lifts made
entirely in the USA, so it depends on the model.  I personally am fine
with their made in China lifts since they assemble them here in the USA,
meaning they look over all the parts themselves in their factory about
45minutes drive from me.  Never looked at their rolling jacks though.

 My 4post is not a BendPak and it was made in the USA (Texas to be
exact) because it is so old, the same manufacturer now gets them from
China.

 My Mid-Rise lift is a made in the USA BendPak but again I think they
now get their Mid-Rise parts from China and assemble here in the USA.
Either way, I would not be concerned about a BendPak in anyway.

	mike

On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 12:47 -0600, JLC wrote:
> Mike wrote: Congrats on the lift, now prepare to be popular with all your
> friends
> and even some neighbors.  Set some rules NOW and make sure your friends
> know the rules or you will get a "quick" transmission job request and
> the car will sit on your lift for over a month with no transmission
> while he scrounges up the money to buy the parts. And make them haul
> away their old oil :)
> 
> --------------------------------
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Good advice, I am sure!
> 
> One thing... I bought a BendPak lift because they are made in the USA, or so
> I believe  -  but I have just noticed the sticker on the side of each
> BendPak supplied rolling jack, saying "made in China"! 
> 
> JLC

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 15:03:00 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:03:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com>
References: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909221403u2f6362d2y475a1b5dc2e3131e@mail.gmail.com>

 Some nice cars made this list.
http://www.cars.gov/files/official-information/trade-in-vehicles.pdf

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 15:14:28 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:14:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
In-Reply-To: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14>
References: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909221414s48c7a206jeb4c8efbfceb1c7b@mail.gmail.com>

Clogged fuel filter, even line.
Check for buildup in float bowl area (needle/seat).

My two-cents.

Herb

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Tue Sep 22 15:39:31 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:39:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
References: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909221403u2f6362d2y475a1b5dc2e3131e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006701ca3bcd$2c8aaa60$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Nice to know we have 165 fewer Hearses on the road!  LOL

Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Wedge List" <tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>; "Spridgeteers"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Ed's Spridgeteers" <9issa at justbrits.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad


> Some nice cars made this list.
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From banjojohn at cox.net  Tue Sep 22 15:59:47 2009
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:59:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W51EE58DF7AFEB4B949B71CCADC0@phx.gbl>
References: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14>
	<SNT123-W51EE58DF7AFEB4B949B71CCADC0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C7731CACCE7C4E73BD630DB5FF305E70@authorizf47d14>

I should have mentioned I have Pertronix ignition.

 

  _____  

From: Bill Masquelier [mailto:billmasq at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:48 PM
To: banjojohn at cox.net; spridget list
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Sudden stop

 

For lack of any good idea I think that you might want to check your points;
gap, dwell, whatever. I won't say that this is the problem but it might be a
good place to start looking. You want your dwell to be about 50, seeing that
would be a better test than checking the gap (although checking the gap
would be a good start too).
BillM

> From: banjojohn at cox.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0500
> Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
> 
> Hi Spridget think tank:
> 
> I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
> developed. I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just died.
> I coasted to the curb and called my wife to tell her I was having trouble.
> Engine would crank but not even try to start again. I sat for 4-5 minutes
> and then tried again. It started right up and ran perfectly normal the
rest
> of the way home. I have had it do the same thing the last 2 times out.
> Runs fine for 15 - 20 minutes. Then suddenly dies. After a few minutes it
> starts right up again and runs normally. I'm worried that it is going to
> quit and not come back to life the next time. The only work I had done
> recently was to drop the fuel tank to reseal around the sender. It had
been
> leaking when filled. 
> 
> Any ideas of what's going on? I thought the coil might be going bad, so I
> replaced it. It happened again after. I haven't been able to determine if
> it's fuel or spark because it comes back to life before I can really try
any
> tests. I have a clear fuel filter which is full of fuel when I look. I put
> in new Grose jets this spring. 
> 
> Thanks for any ideas
> 
> John O'Brien
> 
> '65 300 Mk III
> 
> '61 Bugeye Sprite (1275)
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 16:00:11 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:00:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <006701ca3bcd$2c8aaa60$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909221403u2f6362d2y475a1b5dc2e3131e@mail.gmail.com>
	<006701ca3bcd$2c8aaa60$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <402188520909221500g60b9d615ge3c4344efefa62ea@mail.gmail.com>

People condemned to death a 1998 BMW Z3? a 1991 M3??? 205 El Caminos
(don't tell ED)? 121 Corvettes? 3 Excaliburs? More Mustangs than
Tauruses??? A 1985 TVR 280i? 2 2008 Tecstar Foose F150s? 2 2006 Roush
F1590s? 5 Porsche 944s? A 1997 Rolls Royce Continental? A 2006 350Z?
What is wrong with these people?
David L

From banjojohn at cox.net  Tue Sep 22 16:03:39 2009
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:03:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909220544y265544cdu539625415e033cdf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY118-DAV106F54078112CD990E3758C8DC0@phx.gbl>
	<205cef430909220544y265544cdu539625415e033cdf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <08A0A6E8F5E14DE7A20E8B8117C9B933@authorizf47d14>

The fuel pump is fairly new, but I have another one I can try.  It is an
aftermarket electric pump and I can hear it ticking, but maybe it's not
always pumping.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 7:44 AM
To: Robert E. Shlafer
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net; rbastedo at gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sudden stop

My 62 gave me the same symptoms then the fuel pump "Made in China" finally
quit. I got a "Made in USA" and she fired right up. The interesting thing
was the old pump would appear to be working from time to time but I didn't
know she was not working till she finally stopped altogether.
Lin

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Robert E. Shlafer
<pilotrob at webtv.net>wrote:

> ....or (electric) fuel pump on the way out?
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Bastedo
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 1:38 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
>
> Gas cap not venting, next time it happens loosen the cap to see if there's
> vacuum then try starting up again.
> Just a guess...
>
> Rick Bastedo
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0500
> From: "John O'Brien" <banjojohn at cox.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>
>
> Hi Spridget think tank:
>
> I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
> developed.  I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just died.
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From banjojohn at cox.net  Tue Sep 22 16:07:03 2009
From: banjojohn at cox.net (John O'Brien)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:07:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
In-Reply-To: <402188520909220436l2e011123i6ac6d147f6c8ed7a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14>
	<402188520909220436l2e011123i6ac6d147f6c8ed7a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E5C6E0867CB1416DA1C5A5EFB2F80581@authorizf47d14>

I'm using the Bugeye mechanical drive tach. 
Thanks
John

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb [mailto:72spridget at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:37 AM
To: John O'Brien
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sudden stop

Ya need some analysis here. Is it an electronic tach? If so, look at
it the next time it happens. If the needle drops like a rock, the
problem is in the primary side of the ignition, probably condenser or
points, possibly a bad Lucas bullet connector somewhere. If not, then
check the fuel level in the float bowls to see if it is the pump (or
one of the Lucas connectors that feeds it, BTDT). Do Rick's gas tank
test, too.
David L

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 22 16:37:00 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:37:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <402188520909221500g60b9d615ge3c4344efefa62ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909221403u2f6362d2y475a1b5dc2e3131e@mail.gmail.com>
	<006701ca3bcd$2c8aaa60$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<402188520909221500g60b9d615ge3c4344efefa62ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001801ca3bd5$33699230$9a3cb690$@net>

David Lieb wrote:  " People condemned to death a...."

Uh, ya, sure, OK, well....  AND I suppose the pair of Town and Countrys by
Maserati and all of the limos?  Believe all that and you will....   Oh,
well, you get the picture.

It was back in July that even the National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration admitted that there was widespread fraud going on, with some
of the "clunkers" just making a U-turn right back onto the roads again.  And
just today an interesting story on the failure of the giveaway program that
will actually end up consuming more gasoline and putting individual
Americans further into debt:  a debt that they cannot afford.

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Tue Sep 22 16:38:40 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:38:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
References: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14><SNT123-W51EE58DF7AFEB4B949B71CCADC0@phx.gbl>
	<C7731CACCE7C4E73BD630DB5FF305E70@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <00a101ca3bd5$6f96b120$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Hi John,

So, do you have fuel delivery?  Check it out.

Do you have any spark at the plugs?  Spark from the coil?

Narrow down what quit on you.  Then stuff can be replaced or fixed.

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John O'Brien" <banjojohn at cox.net>
To: "'Bill Masquelier'" <billmasq at hotmail.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sudden stop


> I should have mentioned I have Pertronix ignition.
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: Bill Masquelier [mailto:billmasq at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:48 PM
> To: banjojohn at cox.net; spridget list
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
>
>
>
> For lack of any good idea I think that you might want to check your
points;
> gap, dwell, whatever. I won't say that this is the problem but it might be
a
> good place to start looking. You want your dwell to be about 50, seeing
that
> would be a better test than checking the gap (although checking the gap
> would be a good start too).
> BillM
>
> > From: banjojohn at cox.net
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:20:05 -0500
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
> >
> > Hi Spridget think tank:
> >
> > I was having a great time with my Sprite this summer until a problem
> > developed. I was driving home one day when suddenly the engine just
died.
> > I coasted to the curb and called my wife to tell her I was having
trouble.
> > Engine would crank but not even try to start again. I sat for 4-5
minutes
> > and then tried again. It started right up and ran perfectly normal the
> rest
> > of the way home. I have had it do the same thing the last 2 times out.
> > Runs fine for 15 - 20 minutes. Then suddenly dies. After a few minutes
it
> > starts right up again and runs normally. I'm worried that it is going to
> > quit and not come back to life the next time. The only work I had done
> > recently was to drop the fuel tank to reseal around the sender. It had
> been
> > leaking when filled.
> >
> > Any ideas of what's going on? I thought the coil might be going bad, so
I
> > replaced it. It happened again after. I haven't been able to determine
if
> > it's fuel or spark because it comes back to life before I can really try
> any
> > tests. I have a clear fuel filter which is full of fuel when I look. I
put
> > in new Grose jets this spring.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas
> >
> > John O'Brien
> >
> > '65 300 Mk III
> >
> > '61 Bugeye Sprite (1275)
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Tue Sep 22 17:00:32 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:00:32 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
Message-ID: <c26.664966d0.37eab110@aol.com>

The casting of the made in Spain DCOE's I have seen isn't as tidy as the  
earlier made in Italy DCOEs.  The casting finish is less smooth, bitty in  
places with possibly poor metal run.  Yes, Yes, I know it's just a carb and  
no-one will notice when it gets dirty.
 
I think recently someone in the UK had some more carbs made in Italy or  
production went back there or whatever.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 22/09/2009 13:36:56 GMT Daylight Time, breton48 at live.com 
 writes:


What  exactly do you mean by "not as nice"?  I was thinking of fitting  two
new Weber 40 DCOS to my Lotus engine. Are all the new ones made in  Spain?

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Sep 22 18:09:52 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:09:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
References: <4AB8EB58.23162.5D278E@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <7D3D40B1B5A24B729E05983B84A1E489@blackbox2>

Wow, it's now up to 145K

That's unbelievable.   I guess maybe someone feels it's the least expensive ticket
into Pebble Beach.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave G." <kk7ss at verizon.net>


> I'm thinking that the winner may not actually want to drive it.... he 
> might just want to say " Look what I've got, and you haven't ! "

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Sep 22 18:15:58 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:15:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <7D3D40B1B5A24B729E05983B84A1E489@blackbox2>
References: <4AB8EB58.23162.5D278E@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<7D3D40B1B5A24B729E05983B84A1E489@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <6B781128FCF34241B5F00F4752B6D8F7@spider>

But then you have to buy the wife a wide brimmed hat, and a picnic set.
...bill in oregon
====================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 17:10
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay

Wow, it's now up to 145K

That's unbelievable.   I guess maybe someone feels it's the least expensive
ticket into Pebble Beach.

From sales at justbrits.com  Tue Sep 22 18:31:44 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:31:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <402188520909221500g60b9d615ge3c4344efefa62ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909221403u2f6362d2y475a1b5dc2e3131e@mail.gmail.com>
	<006701ca3bcd$2c8aaa60$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<402188520909221500g60b9d615ge3c4344efefa62ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AB96C70.90008@justbrits.com>

<< 205 El Caminos (don't tell ED)? >>

Doesn't bother me David [but thanks for 'concern'<G>],
'83s - '87s - junk yo start with <BG>!!!   BTW, I got 207?!?

The Aston Martin (newish) did tho.  Shame.

But I DID stumble across an interesting site from the list
when I did a Google for the last vehicle listed = " allace
Environmental" !?!?!  Ended up at Wallace Environmental Testing
Labs, Inc. in Texass.  Found the info on this page:

http://www.wallacelab.com/AutoImports.htm

to be interesting [have to use your 'back' button a lot<F>].

It equals "why NOT to import vehicles" <VBG> !!!!

Me

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue Sep 22 18:51:49 2009
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:51:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8356.1253664969.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.8356.1253664969.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4AB97125.60403@comcast.net>

Paul Asgeirsson wrote:
 >> Some nice cars made this list.
 >> http://www.cars.gov/files/official-information/trade-in-vehicles.pdf
 > Nice to know we have 165 fewer Hearses on the road!  LOL

It's not the hearses that bother me, it's the 165 bodies that were
still in them. :)

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue Sep 22 19:30:01 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:30:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <402188520909221500g60b9d615ge3c4344efefa62ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com><2ad6c6b10909221403u2f6362d2y475a1b5dc2e3131e@mail.gmail.com><006701ca3bcd$2c8aaa60$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<402188520909221500g60b9d615ge3c4344efefa62ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <725916DEA89A43EA9B3F0C10C0EAAD27@BASEMENTDELL>

I saw one of the Corvettes that were traded in here in Milwaukee.  It was
VERY used.  

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:00 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

People condemned to death a 1998 BMW Z3? a 1991 M3??? 205 El Caminos
(don't tell ED)? 121 Corvettes? 3 Excaliburs? More Mustangs than
Tauruses??? A 1985 TVR 280i? 2 2008 Tecstar Foose F150s? 2 2006 Roush
F1590s? 5 Porsche 944s? A 1997 Rolls Royce Continental? A 2006 350Z?
What is wrong with these people?
David L
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 22 20:31:27 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:31:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <4AB97125.60403@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <27225.73890.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Kent McLean <kentmclean at comcast.net> wrote:
> It's not the hearses that bother me, it's the 165 bodies
> that were
> still in them. 

Kent,

Actually, that was the "Cash for Corpses" program when the oil companies got Cheney into office.

Ron

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 20:32:54 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:32:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Welcome to 59 FORD - Sook B.C.
In-Reply-To: <37980.11978.qm@web81608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <37980.11978.qm@web81608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909221932w730d0ae5m33e8da86066aa4b5@mail.gmail.com>

Must be SOMETHING on one of these that's British!?!
Being 'car guys', we just-like-cars....
Herb



 Accept each day for what it is and appreciate those who are in it.




*Welcome to 59 FORD *



http://www.59ford.com/carfriends/themountaintop.html

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 20:41:34 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:41:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <4AB97125.60403@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.8356.1253664969.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4AB97125.60403@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909221941n5be5611yad60fd79458b5f5e@mail.gmail.com>

> It's not the hearses that bother me, it's the 165 bodies that were
> still in them. :)

In Chicago they'd still only need one grave

From breton48 at live.com  Tue Sep 22 21:08:43 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:08:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
In-Reply-To: <c26.664966d0.37eab110@aol.com>
References: <c26.664966d0.37eab110@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS3D918B4A2DBE5FD11DA33AFDB0@phx.gbl>

Thanks for the answer.  I will enquire whether I can buy new Weber  carbs
made in Italy or not!

 

JLC

 

 

Weslake-Monza wrote: 

 

The casting of the made in Spain DCOE's I have seen isn't as tidy as the
earlier made in Italy DCOEs.  The casting finish is less smooth, bitty in
places with possibly poor metal run.  Yes, Yes, I know it's just a carb and
no-one will notice when it gets dirty.

 

I think recently someone in the UK had some more carbs made in Italy or
production went back there or whatever.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 22 21:16:07 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:16:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
In-Reply-To: <BLU134-DS3D918B4A2DBE5FD11DA33AFDB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <608688.96364.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

JLC,
Joining this late - Personally, I have had several Webers, it's only the
relatively recent Spanish Webers made ~2004 to 2006 (just before and after the
strike) that seemed to be of lower quality. I have a 45DCOE made in 1997 in
Spain that's as nice as any I have seen, and I recently traded someone with
one I bought in 2008 and it was pretty good as well. As Daniel said, the
castings were sloppy on the "bad" ones. 

Ron

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, JLC
<breton48 at live.com> wrote:

> From: JLC <breton48 at live.com>
> Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Weber Help
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tuesday,
September 22, 2009, 10:08 PM
> Thanks for the answer.  I will
> enquire
whether I can buy new Weber  carbs
> made in Italy or not!
> 
>  
> 
> JLC
>
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Weslake-Monza wrote: 
> 
>  
> 
> The casting of the made in
Spain DCOE's I have seen isn't
> as tidy as the
> earlier made in Italy
DCOEs.  The casting finish is
> less smooth, bitty in
> places with possibly
poor metal run.  Yes, Yes, I know
> it's just a carb and
> no-one will notice
when it gets dirty.
> 
>  
> 
> I think recently someone in the UK had some
more carbs made
> in Italy or
> production went back there or whatever.
>
_______________________________________________

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Sep 22 21:21:14 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:21:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
References: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909221403u2f6362d2y475a1b5dc2e3131e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E4A9200F8F71460C8F093B3F1AB0641D@MAIN>

There are some cars on there that did not meet the requirements, ie, Ford 
Aspire?  Hyundai Accent?  Those cars got better than 18 combined rating. 
How did the dealership and the auditors let those slide through?

The saddest one we crushed was a 2002 Range Rover, although we also crushed 
two really clean Jeep Cherokee Classics and an 88k DeVille.  I'm also 
wondering how a 2008 Suburban could be so used up as to make crushing for 
$4500 made economic sense?

David Riker

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
To: "Wedge List" <tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>; "Spridgeteers" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Ed's Spridgeteers" <9issa at justbrits.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad


> Some nice cars made this list.
> http://www.cars.gov/files/official-information/trade-in-vehicles.pdf

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From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Sep 22 21:29:27 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:29:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
References: <776AF817B1D7475F98528904487672B4@authorizf47d14><SNT123-W51EE58DF7AFEB4B949B71CCADC0@phx.gbl>
	<C7731CACCE7C4E73BD630DB5FF305E70@authorizf47d14>
Message-ID: <3ABE33DA269C42B2AB2870DD4FF575D5@MAIN>

Electronic failures, when heat related are often intermittent.  Test 
replacing the Pertronix unit with the points, and see if it goes away.
David R.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John O'Brien" <banjojohn at cox.net>
To: "'Bill Masquelier'" <billmasq at hotmail.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sudden stop


>I should have mentioned I have Pertronix ignition.
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: Bill Masquelier [mailto:billmasq at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 10:48 PM
> To: banjojohn at cox.net; spridget list
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Sudden stop

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 21:49:03 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:49:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <E4A9200F8F71460C8F093B3F1AB0641D@MAIN>
References: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909221403u2f6362d2y475a1b5dc2e3131e@mail.gmail.com>
	<E4A9200F8F71460C8F093B3F1AB0641D@MAIN>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909222049u39062483l7a3ab46ff856090c@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:21 PM, David Riker <davriker at nwi.net> wrote:
> There are some cars on there that did not meet the requirements, ie, Ford
> Aspire?  Hyundai Accent?  Those cars got better than 18 combined rating.
How
> did the dealership and the auditors let those slide through?
>

I was wondering the same thing ... After further review I think the
key to that question is on the 3rd line of the PDF file:
"As submitted, not necessarily reviewed or approved"

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 21:51:16 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:51:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for drivable Spridget
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909222051y63a3bbaelab1e7a00197b7527@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

Guy in Kansas City looking for a drivable spridget in the KS, NE, MO
area....  NFI   yada yada....   If ya got one for sale contact "Ron Ray" <
ronald-ray at sbcglobal.net>.

This guy is actually in NYC but wants to have a spridget in the KC area to
drive when he is there.  Whatcha got out in the chicken coop, Frank?  Maybe
he'd consider driving one to Kansas City....

--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Tue Sep 22 21:51:53 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:51:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
References: <AA89CE358D51F94F80F035E644CE73C351359A62AF@RNOMBX01.is.ad.igt.com><2ad6c6b10909221403u2f6362d2y475a1b5dc2e3131e@mail.gmail.com><006701ca3bcd$2c8aaa60$f675fea9@p0k7l8><402188520909221500g60b9d615ge3c4344efefa62ea@mail.gmail.com>
	<725916DEA89A43EA9B3F0C10C0EAAD27@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <007601ca3c01$316f6be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Even the fiberglass was rusty?

Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Manuel" <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>
To: "'David Lieb'" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "'Spridgets'"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad


> I saw one of the Corvettes that were traded in here in Milwaukee.  It was
> VERY used.
>
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb
> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:00 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad
>
> People condemned to death a 1998 BMW Z3? a 1991 M3??? 205 El Caminos
> (don't tell ED)? 121 Corvettes? 3 Excaliburs? More Mustangs than
> Tauruses??? A 1985 TVR 280i? 2 2008 Tecstar Foose F150s? 2 2006 Roush
> F1590s? 5 Porsche 944s? A 1997 Rolls Royce Continental? A 2006 350Z?
> What is wrong with these people?
> David L
> You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 22 22:14:59 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:14:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
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David Riker wrote:  " I'm also wondering how a 2008 Suburban could be so
used up as to make crushing for $4500 made economic sense?"

And you believe it was destroyed, too?  Dollars to donuts it is still on the
road.




-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Riker
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:21 PM
To: WFO Herb; Wedge List; Spridgeteers; Ed's Spridgeteers
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

There are some cars on there that did not meet the requirements, ie, Ford 
Aspire?  Hyundai Accent?  Those cars got better than 18 combined rating. 
How did the dealership and the auditors let those slide through?

The saddest one we crushed was a 2002 Range Rover, although we also crushed 
two really clean Jeep Cherokee Classics and an 88k DeVille.  I'm also 
wondering how a 2008 Suburban could be so used up as to make crushing for 
$4500 made economic sense?

David Riker

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To: "Wedge List" <tr8 at mercury.lcs.mit.edu>; "Spridgeteers" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Ed's Spridgeteers" <9issa at justbrits.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:03 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad


> Some nice cars made this list.
> http://www.cars.gov/files/official-information/trade-in-vehicles.pdf

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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 03:12:35 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
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Looks like the Post Office finally made some money!!




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From: Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com>
To: Spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:49:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:21 PM, David Riker <davriker at nwi.net> wrote:
> There are some cars on there that did not meet the requirements, ie, Ford
> Aspire?  Hyundai Accent?  Those cars got better than 18 combined rating.
How
> did the dealership and the auditors let those slide through?
>

I was wondering the same thing ... After further review I think the
key to that question is on the 3rd line of the PDF file:
"As submitted, not necessarily reviewed or approved"
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 03:35:31 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:35:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
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I could not agree more about putting people further into debt than they
already are...

Article from Dave Ramsey:

With all the buzz about Cash for
Clunkers, itbs easy to think that it was a great way for people to get a
better set of wheels. But was it really? No way! Cash for Clunkers was simply
a way for broke people to buy cars that they really couldn't afford. It was a
bad idea on multiple levels. But before digging into that, letbs take a
little history lesson.

About a decade ago, a fair housing program was
started, called a sub-prime lending market. The idea behind it was that
everyone bneededb to own a homebincluding broke people. The government
decided to start a program to reinvest in communities, which allowed pretty
much anyone to borrow money to buy a house. Lending companies charged high
interest rates, causing already struggling families to go even further into
debt. 

Basically, this was a program designed to encourage broke people to
buy houses. Most people didnbt even know it existed until it unraveled and
became the number-one cause of our recent recession. The government took those
stupid loans back and securitized them, which created the financial mess last
fall. Helping broke people buy houses didnbt turn out to be a great
government program. Guess what? Helping broke people buy brand-new carsband
now home appliancesbwill turn out just as bad.

The Cash for Clunkers
program was designed exactly for people who should not take advantage of the
program. You trade your $2,000 clunker in for a brand-new, shiny $20,000 car,
and the only way you can afford it is with a high-interest payment. That just
means you really couldnbt afford it to begin with. Doesnbt this sound like
the sub-prime mortgage problem all over again?
________________________________
From: Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009
3:37:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

David Lieb wrote:  " People condemned
to death a...."

Uh, ya, sure, OK, well....  AND I suppose the pair of Town
and Countrys by
Maserati and all of the limos?  Believe all that and you
will....   Oh,
well, you get the picture.

It was back in July that even the
National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration admitted that there was
widespread fraud going on, with some
of the "clunkers" just making a U-turn
right back onto the roads again.  And
just today an interesting story on the
failure of the giveaway program that
will actually end up consuming more
gasoline and putting individual
Americans further into debt:  a debt that they
cannot afford.
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 04:15:10 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:15:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiomobile?
Message-ID: <205cef430909230315i18d40d5clfae6756ea3065ea4@mail.gmail.com>

Is this really a Sprite radio?
http://photos2.ebizautos.com/1952/4563370/4563370_17.jpg

Found on the eBay ad for a 59 Sprite
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/The-best-Bug-Eye-we-ve-ever-seen_W0QQitemZ120472564983QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item1c0cb974f7&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
Lin

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Wed Sep 23 05:13:52 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:13:52 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV15203023F65A92A4089C2C8DB0@phx.gbl>

If it's ticking, it's pumping to one extent or another and disconnecting fuel line at the carb while energizing the fuel pump and checking for flow will tell the tale.

insfar as the "sudden" engine stop is concerned......and this takes a bit of remembering, John.

Was it a sudden and complete cut-out with the tach concurrently going to "Zero" (electrical) or a sudden but more "slowly"
occuring failure (fuel starvation)..,,,

We would be talking the difference as in...
 
a "spontaneous" military ordinance detonation (bright white) or "slower" petroleum/kerosene explosion (orange).

The initial PerTronix installed chafed a misplaced wire and the motor suddenly quit within 1000 miles. The tach went suddenly to zero concurrently so...  :):)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Wed Sep 23 05:31:28 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:31:28 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV783E0D9F35A87F2C74BD5C8DB0@phx.gbl>

Hmmm...

...how about OER Japanese Webers with adjustable float level and accelerater pump circuit a la Dr. Marty at.....

www.britshstarters.com

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 05:35:43 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:35:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV15203023F65A92A4089C2C8DB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV15203023F65A92A4089C2C8DB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520909230435n2786048an16d2cd69fc733a29@mail.gmail.com>

> Was it a sudden and complete cut-out with the tach concurrently going to "Zero" (electrical) or a sudden but more "slowly"
> occuring failure (fuel starvation)..,,,

Cap'n,
Ya gotta start reading the other answers. John already let us know
that it is a mechanical tach and it cannot tell us anything useful for
diagnostics. ;-)
David L

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Wed Sep 23 05:36:56 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:36:56 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden stop
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV113820609D188D82D0C2DC8DB0@phx.gbl>

Oops, sorry...missed that one. :(

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:35 AM
To: Robert E. Shlafer, Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sudden stop

> Was it a sudden and complete cut-out with the tach concurrently going to "Zero" (electrical) or a sudden but more "slowly"
> occuring failure (fuel starvation)..,,,

Cap'n,
Ya gotta start reading the other answers. John already let us know
that it is a mechanical tach and it cannot tell us anything useful for
diagnostics. ;-)
David L

From twobees at sprynet.com  Wed Sep 23 05:39:24 2009
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:39:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <000601ca3c42$811ab640$6401a8c0@normoffice>

I'm glad to see such an iconic piece of racing history being bid so high.
It's hard to imagine that I could have owned this car or its Sebring
companion.

A few months after the 1965 Sebring race I was in the market for an MGB.  My
dealer also suggested that he could arrange for me to buy either one of the
Sebring Sprites or a Porsche 901 -- the Sprite if I didn't mind a coupe and
the 901 if I would take European delivery.  European delivery was out of the
question as I had just started a new job & had no vacation time, and the
Sprite coupe was out because my daily driver at the time WAS a coupe -- a
Corvair Spyder.  Besides, having had a Healey 100-6, I wanted a roadster.
So, bought my first (of 4) MGB.

If any of you are intrigued by HAN8-R65-5, you should go to the Vintage
Racecar site (www.vintageracecar.com <http://www.vintageracecar.com/> ) and
order the September 2005 issue.  A companion car with history at Sebring &
LeMans from 1966 to 1968 was the Profile & cover car that month. While there
are some obvious detail differences from this car, they are essentially the
same.

My congratulations to the seller for getting a good price.  But, why has he
kept it hidden away all these years?  I hope the ultimate buyer is in the US
and will bring this little piece of history out for "exercise" at one of the
vintage races someday soon.

Norm Sippel
Turner MK1

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Wed Sep 23 05:44:56 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:44:56 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV346B84E5C1C20E522CA91C8DB0@phx.gbl>

Actually didn't this start with Carter,  doubled-down upon by Clinton in the 90's and enforced upon by Janet Reno/Jaime Garelick intimidating banks by way of threat of Federal Audit as Obama in his role as an ACORN attorney sued banks who refused to have anything to do with NINJA loans/mortgages????

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Perez
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:35 AM
To: Robert Evans, Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

I could not agree more about putting people further into debt than they
already are...

Article from Dave Ramsey:

With all the buzz about Cash for
Clunkers, itbs easy to think that it was a great way for people to get a
better set of wheels. But was it really? No way! Cash for Clunkers was simply
a way for broke people to buy cars that they really couldn't afford. It was a
bad idea on multiple levels. But before digging into that, letbs take a
little history lesson.

About a decade ago, a fair housing program was
started, called a sub-prime lending market. The idea behind it was that
everyone bneededb to own a homebincluding broke people. The government
decided to start a program to reinvest in communities, which allowed pretty
much anyone to borrow money to buy a house. Lending companies charged high
interest rates, causing already struggling families to go even further into
debt. 

Basically, this was a program designed to encourage broke people to
buy houses. Most people didnbt even know it existed until it unraveled and
became the number-one cause of our recent recession. The government took those
stupid loans back and securitized them, which created the financial mess last
fall. Helping broke people buy houses didnbt turn out to be a great
government program. Guess what? Helping broke people buy brand-new carsband
now home appliancesbwill turn out just as bad.

The Cash for Clunkers
program was designed exactly for people who should not take advantage of the
program. You trade your $2,000 clunker in for a brand-new, shiny $20,000 car,
and the only way you can afford it is with a high-interest payment. That just
means you really couldnbt afford it to begin with. Doesnbt this sound like
the sub-prime mortgage problem all over again?
________________________________
From: Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net>
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009
3:37:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

David Lieb wrote:  " People condemned
to death a...."

Uh, ya, sure, OK, well....  AND I suppose the pair of Town
and Countrys by
Maserati and all of the limos?  Believe all that and you
will....   Oh,
well, you get the picture.

It was back in July that even the
National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration admitted that there was
widespread fraud going on, with some
of the "clunkers" just making a U-turn
right back onto the roads again.  And
just today an interesting story on the
failure of the giveaway program that
will actually end up consuming more
gasoline and putting individual
Americans further into debt:  a debt that they
cannot afford.
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Wed Sep 23 06:23:17 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:23:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiomobile?
References: <205cef430909230315i18d40d5clfae6756ea3065ea4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0A6C8CE50A064663831A32F253BE0D2A@leovs802bt6yj7>

Yes it really is a radio that could havve been fitted to a sprite:)  Anyone 
have one?  I have been looking for one for some time.  I almost had to go 
check the garage to make sure Iris was still there after looking at the 
photo;s.  BUT the coil sticker is missing as is the rubber cable retainer on 
the drivers side of the heater box which made me stop panicing. ....ROFL...

Nice car

Leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:15 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiomobile?


> Is this really a Sprite radio?
> http://photos2.ebizautos.com/1952/4563370/4563370_17.jpg
>
> Found on the eBay ad for a 59 Sprite
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/The-best-Bug-Eye-we-ve-ever-seen_W0QQitemZ120472564983QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item1c0cb974f7&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
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From daredelvis at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 06:23:58 2009
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:23:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
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No, not even close.


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>
wrote:
> Actually didn't this start with Carter,  doubled-down upon by Clinton in the
90's and enforced upon by Janet Reno/Jaime Garelick intimidating banks by way
of threat of Federal Audit as Obama in his role as an ACORN attorney sued
banks who refused to have anything to do with NINJA loans/mortgages????
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 23 06:34:12 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:34:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV346B84E5C1C20E522CA91C8DB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV346B84E5C1C20E522CA91C8DB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <F988690E491547E384C9DD52E7C765C0@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:44 AM
To: "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "Robert Evans" 
<b-evans at earthlink.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

> Actually didn't this start with Carter,  doubled-down upon by Clinton in 
> the 90's and enforced upon by Janet Reno/Jaime Garelick intimidating banks 
> by way of threat of Federal Audit as Obama in his role as an ACORN 
> attorney sued banks who refused to have anything to do with NINJA 
> loans/mortgages????
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
>
==========================

50 years from now some idiot will still be blaming Clinton for something 
that happened the previous year. 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 06:55:42 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:55:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <F988690E491547E384C9DD52E7C765C0@HomePC>
References: <BAY118-DAV346B84E5C1C20E522CA91C8DB0@phx.gbl>
	<F988690E491547E384C9DD52E7C765C0@HomePC>
Message-ID: <402188520909230555m25f21ec4vc4449f6b4f00ce77@mail.gmail.com>

> 50 years from now some idiot will still be blaming Clinton for something
> that happened the previous year.

And crediting him for things that were done by the previous
administration as well.
David L

From breton48 at live.com  Wed Sep 23 07:08:06 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:08:06 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV783E0D9F35A87F2C74BD5C8DB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV783E0D9F35A87F2C74BD5C8DB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS2E12050882253AA55205BAFDB0@phx.gbl>

Cap'n. Bob wrote:
...how about OER Japanese Webers with adjustable float level and accelerater
pump circuit a la Dr. Marty at.....

www.britshstarters.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------
Cap'n. Bob,

I was told the Japanese Weber style carbs come in 45 DCOE size, but not 40
DCOE, which I need (originals are Weber 40 DCOE 31). I cannot fit a single
45 as I cannot change the inlet manifold (it is part of the head casting on
the Lotus Twin Cam engine), and twin 45 carbs would be too much for the
engine. 

By the way, Britishstarters.com have reduction gear starters at a very
reasonable price - I checked the price for the Lotus 7, and it is half what
I paid for a starter in my racing Bugeye back in 2001! I could not find a
link to carbs on that site though.

JLC

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Wed Sep 23 07:34:55 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:34:55 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
Message-ID: <1006605987-1253712890-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-433874444-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I first heard the term "ninja" loan a week ago at a conference. It may have just been out of the loop, or maybe it's because I don't watch Fox news.  But I ask curious if there is a real reason for this term, ie a long standing acronym.  Otherwise it seems like thinly veiled racism by whomever (Fox?) coined the phrase.  
I make this statement because, for years the word "ninja" has been used by folks now in their 20s and 30s to replace the other "N word" in casual conversation and while singing along with music. And the word sounds similar too.  If there is some other meaning to this phrase please correct me.  But all the same, keep this meaning in mind.
Drew
------Original Message------
From: brian james
Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
To: Robert E. Shlafer
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad
Sent: Sep 23, 2009 8:23 AM

No, not even close.


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>
wrote:
> Actually didn't this start with Carter,  doubled-down upon by Clinton in the
90's and enforced upon by Janet Reno/Jaime Garelick intimidating banks by way
of threat of Federal Audit as Obama in his role as an ACORN attorney sued
banks who refused to have anything to do with NINJA loans/mortgages????
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Sep 23 08:07:51 2009
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:07:51 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
Message-ID: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

What are people running for electric fuel pumps? I replaced the mechanical one
in the '58 so that I could make it to the Colorado Conclave, and all that did
was waste my time and piss me off when it vapor locked every 3 miles (never
did make it to Conclave). It's time for an electric that works. What are
people running that supplies 3 psi? Any experience with the Facet pumps (the
block, not the cast plastic- I tried one and it died too) that push 3psi at
most? Any wiring tips for the Facet-i.e. do I need to attach the (-) wire to
the body of the pump as well as the (-) wire to keep it alive? (I'll isolate
the pump from the car body to limit vibration and isolate (-) and (+)).


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 08:17:32 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:17:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910909230717i4693fa6bs1668295adec13075@mail.gmail.com>

>From the archives:

"The purolator Low Pressure one is PRO-42S, Unless they've changed it in the
last few months!!

Paul A"

I think Facet is the usual suspect brand.

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Sep 23 08:16:17 2009
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:16:17 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Such a deal!
Message-ID: <20090923.081617.21818.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>

New on Fleabay! What a starting bid! someone ought to jump on this, could be
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From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 08:18:59 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:18:59 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910909230717i4693fa6bs1668295adec13075@mail.gmail.com>
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Mr. Gasket now, I guess:
http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Gasket-42S-Electric-Fuel/dp/B000BWE4RC

From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Wed Sep 23 08:31:52 2009
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:31:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <078101ca3c5a$9a76ca80$cf645f80$@net>

Mark:
Why replace your mechanical pump? By far the most popular post to this list
and other LBC lists involve troubles with electric fuel pumps. Electric
pumps = additional non standard wiring and plumbing. The mechanical pump is
dead reliable, with no additional wiring hazards. Further more if the car
sits for a while, the time the mechanical takes to fill the float bowels
allows oil pressure to build up.

Herb Miller
1960 Bugeye 1275 with single HIF44 and high volume Mini mechanical fuel
pump, which will probably last longer than I will.  

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Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:08 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps

What are people running for electric fuel pumps? I replaced the mechanical
one
in the '58 so that I could make it to the Colorado Conclave, and all that
did
was waste my time and piss me off when it vapor locked every 3 miles (never
did make it to Conclave). It's time for an electric that works. What are
people running that supplies 3 psi? Any experience with the Facet pumps (the
block, not the cast plastic- I tried one and it died too) that push 3psi at
most? Any wiring tips for the Facet-i.e. do I need to attach the (-) wire to
the body of the pump as well as the (-) wire to keep it alive? (I'll isolate
the pump from the car body to limit vibration and isolate (-) and (+)).


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From hgmiller3 at qwest.net  Wed Sep 23 08:39:11 2009
From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:39:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Such a deal!
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AN5L 35348 = 1958!  I think not

Herb Miller

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From daredelvis at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 09:14:57 2009
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:14:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
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More likely a variant of NINA, or "No Income No Asset" loan. I doubt
it has anything to do with racism.

What was the deal with the Aston Martin?  That can't be right.

My wife is taking the new baby to visit the in laws in Montana this
weekend, so I am hoping to get the interior into the Bugeye. Body,
engine, wiring, suspension and hydraulics all finished.    Might beat
that 22 year deadline on this restoration yet!
Brian

Subprime BS below############################
My personal biases lead me to lay this whole mess at the feet of Phill
Gramm, but I would be wrong to do that. Many people blame the banking
crisis on the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act that deregulated the banking
industry by repealing provisions of the depression era Glass-Steagall
act, but it is not that simple.  There is plenty of blame to go
around, but it is unlikely that the Carter era Community Reinvestment
Act had a significant impact on the banking crisis since, according to
the FDIC and other sources CRA regulated loans tend to be safe and
profitable, and that subprime excesses came mainly from institutions
not regulated by the CRA. It appears to me that the only absolute you
can rely on in this mess is that if someone offers a simple
explanation of the banking crisis to score a partisan point they are
almost always 100% wrong.




On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:34 AM,  <andrewpayne at intrex.net> wrote:
> I first heard the term "ninja" loan a week ago at a conference. It may have
just been out of the loop, or maybe it's because I don't watch Fox news.  But
I ask curious if there is a real reason for this term, ie a long standing
acronym.  Otherwise it seems like thinly veiled racism by whomever (Fox?)
coined the phrase.
> I make this statement because, for years the word "ninja" has been used by
folks now in their 20s and 30s to replace the other "N word" in casual
conversation and while singing along with music. And the word sounds similar
too.  If there is some other meaning to this phrase please correct me.  But
all the same, keep this meaning in mind.
> Drew
> ------Original Message------
> From: brian james
> Sender: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> To: Robert E. Shlafer
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad
> Sent: Sep 23, 2009 8:23 AM
>
> No, not even close.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>
> wrote:
>> Actually didn't this start with Carter,  doubled-down upon by Clinton in
the
> 90's and enforced upon by Janet Reno/Jaime Garelick intimidating banks by
way
> of threat of Federal Audit as Obama in his role as an ACORN attorney sued
> banks who refused to have anything to do with NINJA loans/mortgages????
>>
>> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 09:15:33 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:15:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
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Uhh..  ninja is NOT the same as the derogatory "N" word.  HOW ON GOD'S  
GREEN EARTH CAN YOU MAKE THAT RACIST?!?!  Thinly veiled?!?  Are you  
kidding me?!!!  It's time to take a stand.  You are wrong.  Period.  I  
will NOT keep that meaning in mind.  And it is NOT used by nyone I  
know in their 20's and 30's unless they are referring to a cat youtube  
video.  You know what else, niggardly is  a word in the Oxford  
dictionary and has NOTHING to do with race and EVERYTHING to do with  
being cheap.

No, I'm NOT GOING TO TURN THIS RANT OFF.

I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.

Lester


On Sep 23, 2009, at 8:34 AM, andrewpayne at intrex.net wrote:

> I first heard the term "ninja" loan a week ago at a conference. It  
> may have just been out of the loop, or maybe it's because I don't  
> watch Fox news.  But I ask curious if there is a real reason for  
> this term, ie a long standing acronym.  Otherwise it seems like  
> thinly veiled racism by whomever (Fox?) coined the phrase.
> I make this statement because, for years the word "ninja" has been  
> used by folks now in their 20s and 30s to replace the other "N word"  
> in casual conversation and while singing along with music. And the  
> word sounds similar too.  If there is some other meaning to this  
> phrase please correct me.  But all the same, keep this meaning in  
> mind.
> Drew

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Sep 23 09:19:40 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:19:40 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Classis Hearses Re:  Sad
Message-ID: <c56.63638539.37eb968c@aol.com>

Don't know about the USA but in the UK there is a classic hearse club with  
some nice cars, some modified.
 
One of the few burdens I've placed on my wife is my funeral arrangements  
assuming I die first.  I've told her I want a classic hearse and  
particularly like the Ford Zodiac/Zephyr on wolfrace slots with a blower intake  
sticking out of the bonnet.  I can send a photo if anyone's  interested.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 23/09/2009 03:37:46 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com 
 writes:

It's not  the hearses 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Sep 23 09:24:28 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:24:28 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
Message-ID: <d34.5748ff33.37eb97ac@aol.com>

Or Margaret Thatcher, Ted Heath, Harold Wilson?
 
In a message dated 23/09/2009 13:38:34 GMT Daylight Time,  
ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes:

50 years  from now some idiot will still be blaming Clinton for something 
that  happened the previous year.  
_______________________________________________

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Wed Sep 23 09:25:31 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:25:31 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
Message-ID: <cfa.639464ad.37eb97eb@aol.com>

Unless you need an excuse for some serious tuning?
 
In a message dated 23/09/2009 14:08:11 GMT Daylight Time, breton48 at live.com 
 writes:

and twin  45 carbs would be too much for the
engine. 

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Sep 23 09:33:52 2009
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:33:52 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
Message-ID: <20090923.093352.16785.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>

Herb- I've just had it with the vapor lock- The key word in Dead Reliable is
DEAD! The 948 has no insulator between the block and the fuel pump, and the
newer pumps just don't work when the engine is hot-I get 3 miles from one stop
to another. I need it reliable, ! used to race with a pair of Facet pumps,
(just in case we needed to switch) and never had a problem with them.

Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016


Mark:
Why replace your mechanical pump? By far the most popular post to this list
and other LBC lists involve troubles with electric fuel pumps. Electric
pumps = additional non standard wiring and plumbing. The mechanical pump is
dead reliable, with no additional wiring hazards. Further more if the car
sits for a while, the time the mechanical takes to fill the float bowels
allows oil pressure to build up.

Herb Miller


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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 09:39:08 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:39:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <0A9C5173A61E41E4B3C18D59CC63CBA5@Latitude830>
References: <1006605987-1253712890-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-433874444-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
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NO.

This is the basis for all of the "PC" talk that is so much BS.

Lester

On Sep 23, 2009, at 10:35 AM, John Leier wrote:

> Lighten up, Francis.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad
>
>
>> Uhh..  ninja is NOT the same as the derogatory "N" word.  HOW ON  
>> GOD'S  GREEN EARTH CAN YOU MAKE THAT RACIST?!?!  Thinly veiled?!?   
>> Are you  kidding me?!!!  It's time to take a stand.  You are  
>> wrong.  Period.  I  will NOT keep that meaning in mind.  And it is  
>> NOT used by nyone I  know in their 20's and 30's unless they are  
>> referring to a cat youtube  video.  You know what else, niggardly  
>> is  a word in the Oxford  dictionary and has NOTHING to do with  
>> race and EVERYTHING to do with  being cheap.
>> No, I'm NOT GOING TO TURN THIS RANT OFF.
>> I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.
>> Lester

From john.leier at leier.org  Wed Sep 23 09:38:52 2009
From: john.leier at leier.org (John Leier)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:38:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <9BED9FFA-DDED-4C0D-90D3-38BC3798BE3D@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830>

Lighten up, Francis.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad


> Uhh..  ninja is NOT the same as the derogatory "N" word.  HOW ON GOD'S  
> GREEN EARTH CAN YOU MAKE THAT RACIST?!?!  Thinly veiled?!?  Are you  
> kidding me?!!!  It's time to take a stand.  You are wrong.  Period.  I  
> will NOT keep that meaning in mind.  And it is NOT used by nyone I  
> know in their 20's and 30's unless they are referring to a cat youtube  
> video.  You know what else, niggardly is  a word in the Oxford  
> dictionary and has NOTHING to do with race and EVERYTHING to do with  
> being cheap.
> 
> No, I'm NOT GOING TO TURN THIS RANT OFF.
> 
> I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.
> 
> Lester

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Sep 23 09:43:14 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:43:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <d34.5748ff33.37eb97ac@aol.com>
References: <d34.5748ff33.37eb97ac@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4ABA4212.5194.779C02@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I sure hope you mean the politician and not the Big Band leader...
I danced to his band many times at the Hammersmith Palais in the 50's

;-))

On 23 Sep 2009 at 11:24, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>> Or Margaret Thatcher, Ted Heath, Harold Wilson?

--
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'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

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From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Wed Sep 23 09:48:36 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:48:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
References: <20090923.093352.16785.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <00c301ca3c65$513e95e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Hi Mark,

I used a facet pump for years on my Morris, and likely it pushed fuel for a
couple hundred thousand miles.  It was mounted near the fuel tank as a
pusher type.  I used it on trips to Las Vegas and Colorado Springs to San
Diego and across the deserts it alway worked.  Hottest temp outside was 108
degrees and it never faltered

The only reason I disconnected it was I installed a Datsun engine and it has
a mechanical fuel pump on it.  It simply always works.

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Haynes" <haynes386 at netzero.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:33 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps


> Herb- I've just had it with the vapor lock- The key word in Dead Reliable
is
> DEAD! The 948 has no insulator between the block and the fuel pump, and
the
> newer pumps just don't work when the engine is hot-I get 3 miles from one
stop
> to another. I need it reliable, ! used to race with a pair of Facet pumps,
> (just in case we needed to switch) and never had a problem with them.
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016
>
>
> Mark:
> Why replace your mechanical pump? By far the most popular post to this
list
> and other LBC lists involve troubles with electric fuel pumps. Electric
> pumps = additional non standard wiring and plumbing. The mechanical pump
is
> dead reliable, with no additional wiring hazards. Further more if the car
> sits for a while, the time the mechanical takes to fill the float bowels
> allows oil pressure to build up.
>
> Herb Miller
>
>
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 10:02:12 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:02:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830>
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To Mister Payne, et al,

FWIW, the term "NINJA Loan" is well known throughout the banking and finance
industry.  It stands for "No Income, No Job (and no) Assets".   See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Income_No_Asset

Before you start accusing Fox News of racism, you should do your freakin'
homework.  The term was first coined by the Washington Post (moderate left
wing paper) about a year ago.

Now....  write a nice letter to Rupert Murdock apologizing for slandering
Fox News. I further suggest that in the future you learn to gather as many
facts about something as you can before you open your mouth or start typing
on your keyboard.

You state that you don't watch Fox News. If so, how did you come up with
they idea that they invented the term as a racial slur?  Osmosis?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:38 AM, John Leier <john.leier at leier.org> wrote:

> Lighten up, Francis.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad
>
>
>  Uhh..  ninja is NOT the same as the derogatory "N" word.  HOW ON GOD'S
>>  GREEN EARTH CAN YOU MAKE THAT RACIST?!?!  Thinly veiled?!?  Are you
>>  kidding me?!!!  It's time to take a stand.  You are wrong.  Period.  I
>>  will NOT keep that meaning in mind.  And it is NOT used by nyone I  know
in
>> their 20's and 30's unless they are referring to a cat youtube  video.
You
>> know what else, niggardly is  a word in the Oxford  dictionary and has
>> NOTHING to do with race and EVERYTHING to do with  being cheap.
>>
>> No, I'm NOT GOING TO TURN THIS RANT OFF.
>>
>> I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.
>>
>> Lester
>>
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not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 10:09:22 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:09:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909230902x9eae4c3l441b456810b03c8f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1006605987-1253712890-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-433874444-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<9BED9FFA-DDED-4C0D-90D3-38BC3798BE3D@comcast.net>
	<CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830>
	<43840a7e0909230902x9eae4c3l441b456810b03c8f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D7C762C5-D18E-40AF-8BED-D5E281966151@comcast.net>

Here here!

Lester


On Sep 23, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> To Mister Payne, et al,
>
> FWIW, the term "NINJA Loan" is well known throughout the banking and  
> finance
> industry.  It stands for "No Income, No Job (and no) Assets".   See:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Income_No_Asset
>
> Before you start accusing Fox News of racism, you should do your  
> freakin'
> homework.  The term was first coined by the Washington Post  
> (moderate left
> wing paper) about a year ago.
>
> Now....  write a nice letter to Rupert Murdock apologizing for  
> slandering
> Fox News. I further suggest that in the future you learn to gather  
> as many
> facts about something as you can before you open your mouth or start  
> typing
> on your keyboard.
>
> You state that you don't watch Fox News. If so, how did you come up  
> with
> they idea that they invented the term as a racial slur?  Osmosis?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim

From breton48 at live.com  Wed Sep 23 10:10:45 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:10:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
In-Reply-To: <cfa.639464ad.37eb97eb@aol.com>
References: <cfa.639464ad.37eb97eb@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS38D73E82B6E81FE3D528EAFDB0@phx.gbl>

 WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  wrote:



Unless you need an excuse for some serious tuning?

 

In a message dated 23/09/2009 14:08:11 GMT Daylight Time, breton48 at live.com
writes:

and twin 45 carbs would be too much for the
engine. 

 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------

 

No, I don't think I am going to do any more tuning to that engine!  This
Twin Cam was rebuilt by Jay Ivey of Portland, Oregon. It's a "rally specs"
engine,  dynoed  on a bench (152 hp at 7200) by the builder, then retuned
later on in San Diego (115 hp  at 6400 rpm  at the rear wheels) for  better
fuel mileage to improve the car's  range (the Seven has an 8 gallon fuel
tank). Up here in the Black Forest, I had the carbs tuned for altitude
(smaller venturis and main jets), and I am sure I lost quite a bit of power
as compared to sea level, but there is still plenty enough left to keep up
with the traffic! 

 

JLC

From breton48 at live.com  Wed Sep 23 10:22:47 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:22:47 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS5D9BA7EA769191B14437CAFDB0@phx.gbl>

Mark,

Sorry you did not make it to the Conclave - I was there parked with the
Lotuses.

I was running an electric pump in my racing Bugeye, forgot if it was a
Holley or Facet... but I also had a fuel pressure regulator in the engine
bay. That's not an expensive item, and it ensured there would not be too
much pressure going to the carbs.

JLC in the Black Forest, between Colorado Springs and Denver.

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 23 10:22:44 2009
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:22:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers
Message-ID: <18435245.1253722964748.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Question about Calif. defunct British Car dealers

This just in from Rod Bean - Can anyone on this list help???

Contact Rod directly, but please CC me.

Thanks,

Rick


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rod Bean <rodbean at earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:11 AM
Subject: Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers
To: Rick Feibusch <rfeibusch1 at gmail.com>


Hi Rick,

I've been trying to remember the place where I purchased my first
Lotus Elan (of many since) in 1969.  It was a 1964 purchased used from
a large British car dealership in Anaheim.  The place might have been
a distributorship.  They handled all the BMC marques and was named
something like British Motors or British Car Distributors, British
Motor Corporation of Anaheim or something like that.  I seem to
remember that it was near a freeway offramp, though which freeway, I
can't recall.

A few years before, I actually had also bought a 1957 Hillman Commer
Cob (like a Husky but a panel truck instead of with side windows)
there (with a later OHV Hillman engine installed) from them.  It was
their parts delivery vehicle and they were upgrading to something
else.

What I'm looking for is the correct name and possibly, address of the
place.  This is just for my records as I am trying to trace my
automotive history, particularly, my long Lotus history.... all the
cars

Thanks for any help, Rick.

Rod Bean

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 10:24:49 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:24:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Such a deal!
In-Reply-To: <20090923.081617.21818.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090923.081617.21818.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4ABA4BD1.5080405@comcast.net>

Mark Haynes wrote:
> New on Fleabay! What a starting bid! someone ought to jump on this, could be
> worth $53K (not without putting $53K into it)
> 	Item # 140347781450
>
>   
Where do these people get their information?
I think he has one too many zeros in his numbers.




> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 10:27:21 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:27:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for drivable Spridget
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909222051y63a3bbaelab1e7a00197b7527@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0909222051y63a3bbaelab1e7a00197b7527@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ABA4C69.3000302@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
> Spridgeteers,
>
> Guy in Kansas City looking for a drivable spridget in the KS, NE, MO
> area.... 
> This guy is actually in NYC but wants to have a spridget in the KC area to
> drive when he is there.  Whatcha got out in the chicken coop, Frank?  Maybe
> he'd consider driving one to Kansas City....
>
>   
I have a project car that will be ready be the Spring.
Name the price and what color you want it.
It will be nice when finished.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 10:28:54 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:28:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909230902x9eae4c3l441b456810b03c8f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1006605987-1253712890-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-433874444-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<9BED9FFA-DDED-4C0D-90D3-38BC3798BE3D@comcast.net>
	<CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830>
	<43840a7e0909230902x9eae4c3l441b456810b03c8f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4333f8140909230928m271b6affx5498654afbadfe86@mail.gmail.com>

I'm sorry but Fox and News do not belong together.  It is Faux News
Hal

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> To Mister Payne, et al,
>
> FWIW, the term "NINJA Loan" is well known throughout the banking and
> finance
> industry.  It stands for "No Income, No Job (and no) Assets".   See:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Income_No_Asset
>
> Before you start accusing Fox News of racism, you should do your freakin'
> homework.  The term was first coined by the Washington Post (moderate left
> wing paper) about a year ago.
>
> Now....  write a nice letter to Rupert Murdock apologizing for slandering
> Fox News. I further suggest that in the future you learn to gather as many
> facts about something as you can before you open your mouth or start typing
> on your keyboard.
>
> You state that you don't watch Fox News. If so, how did you come up with
> they idea that they invented the term as a racial slur?  Osmosis?
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:38 AM, John Leier <john.leier at leier.org> wrote:
>
> > Lighten up, Francis.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
> > To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad
> >
> >
> >  Uhh..  ninja is NOT the same as the derogatory "N" word.  HOW ON GOD'S
> >>  GREEN EARTH CAN YOU MAKE THAT RACIST?!?!  Thinly veiled?!?  Are you
> >>  kidding me?!!!  It's time to take a stand.  You are wrong.  Period.  I
> >>  will NOT keep that meaning in mind.  And it is NOT used by nyone I
>  know
> in
> >> their 20's and 30's unless they are referring to a cat youtube  video.
> You
> >> know what else, niggardly is  a word in the Oxford  dictionary and has
> >> NOTHING to do with race and EVERYTHING to do with  being cheap.
> >>
> >> No, I'm NOT GOING TO TURN THIS RANT OFF.
> >>
> >> I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.
> >>
> >> Lester
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
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> not
> sure about the former.  - Albert Einstein
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 10:34:39 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:34:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Such a deal!
In-Reply-To: <20090923.081617.21818.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090923.081617.21818.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909230934p26e2100cg6c3a73540cec788b@mail.gmail.com>

Frank said it..."one too many zeros..."  You're right, Herb,  NOT a '58.
I traded an 8mm rifle for one (BE) in that condition.  I had no idea the
rifle was worth 53K; it wasn't even Chinese (German made)!

Herb

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 10:36:53 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:36:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber Help
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV783E0D9F35A87F2C74BD5C8DB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV783E0D9F35A87F2C74BD5C8DB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909230936m34436d2en57337a6bc78c41d2@mail.gmail.com>

You left out an "i" CB.  Link didn't work.H

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>wrote:

> Hmmm...
>
> ...how about OER Japanese Webers with adjustable float level and
> accelerater pump circuit a la Dr. Marty at.....
>
> www.britshstarters.com
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From derf247 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 10:38:30 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:38:30 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <BLU134-DS5D9BA7EA769191B14437CAFDB0@phx.gbl>
References: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
	<BLU134-DS5D9BA7EA769191B14437CAFDB0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910909230938y7b053047y6f03c07b6f24b6bf@mail.gmail.com>

If you run the aforementioned 42 you don't need a regulator.  If you
use a higher pressure pump, or a pump for a V8 app, you should use a
regulator.


>
> I was running an electric pump in my racing Bugeye, forgot if it was a
> Holley or Facet... but I also had a fuel pressure regulator in the engine
> bay. That's not an expensive item, and it ensured there would not be too
> much pressure going to the carbs.

From mikey at b2systems.com  Wed Sep 23 10:38:39 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:38:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Such a deal!
In-Reply-To: <4ABA4BD1.5080405@comcast.net>
References: <20090923.081617.21818.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
	<4ABA4BD1.5080405@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1253723920.3811.152.camel@WebBrowser>

 Is that thing even worth $700 ?  with only 79% of the parts, I wonder
how he came up with such a exact number of 79%


On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 12:24 -0400, Frank wrote:
> Mark Haynes wrote:
> > New on Fleabay! What a starting bid! someone ought to jump on this, could be
> > worth $53K (not without putting $53K into it)
> > 	Item # 140347781450
> >
> >   
> Where do these people get their information?
> I think he has one too many zeros in his numbers.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Frank Clarici
> > Toms River, NJ
> > My own Fleet of Sprites
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 10:45:59 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:45:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Such a deal!
In-Reply-To: <1253723920.3811.152.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <20090923.081617.21818.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
	<4ABA4BD1.5080405@comcast.net> <1253723920.3811.152.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909230945l12ef54f9i1d313dac580c1bca@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:38 AM, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:
>  Is that thing even worth $700 ?  with only 79% of the parts, I wonder
> how he came up with such a exact number of 79%
>

According to a research paper I read the other day that 87.3% of all
statistics are made up on the spot.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Sep 23 10:52:33 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:52:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - CA Pollution regs
Message-ID: <17889925C4A24DFFA4B92797304EEA2B@Home>

Our daughter is job hunting in CA and plans to buy an old car, probably another Honda wagon.  I assume most old cars will not pass emissions inspection for long.  Do people take old cars to another state to sell them?  Where?

Michael Rowe

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Sep 23 11:01:19 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:01:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Such a deal!
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909230945l12ef54f9i1d313dac580c1bca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090923.081617.21818.1@webmail02.dca.untd.com>,
	<1253723920.3811.152.camel@WebBrowser>,
	<8de85a9c0909230945l12ef54f9i1d313dac580c1bca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ABA545F.25399.BF1BEC@kk7ss.verizon.net>

And 5 out of 4 people don't understand fractions......

On 23 Sep 2009 at 11:45, Jeff Foster wrote:

>> According to a research paper I read the other day that 87.3% of all
>> statistics are made up on the spot.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep 23 11:11:35 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:11:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140909230928m271b6affx5498654afbadfe86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6DFA4D7.20D80%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I'm sorry but Fox and News do not belong together.  It is Faux News
> Hal
Obviously you've never watched it.

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 23 11:12:32 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:12:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car  delers
In-Reply-To: <18435245.1253722964748.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <18435245.1253722964748.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <007401ca3c71$0a1db310$1e591930$@net>

I will go through my old receipts and see what I can find.  I used to buy
all of my odds and sods there, but lordy, that was 40 years ago.  I think of
that dealership every week when I pass by what is now a vacant lot next to
the Santa Ana (5) Freeway and Anaheim Boulevard.  What great days those were
when you could actually buy English parts from dealers all over Southern
California.






-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:23 AM
To: mgs at autox.team.net; mg-t at autox.team.net; spridgets at autox.team.net;
healeys at autox.team.net; riley at autox.team.net; chapman-era at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers

Question about Calif. defunct British Car dealers

This just in from Rod Bean - Can anyone on this list help???

Contact Rod directly, but please CC me.

Thanks,

Rick


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rod Bean <rodbean at earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:11 AM
Subject: Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers
To: Rick Feibusch <rfeibusch1 at gmail.com>


Hi Rick,

I've been trying to remember the place where I purchased my first
Lotus Elan (of many since) in 1969.  It was a 1964 purchased used from
a large British car dealership in Anaheim.  The place might have been
a distributorship.  They handled all the BMC marques and was named
something like British Motors or British Car Distributors, British
Motor Corporation of Anaheim or something like that.  I seem to
remember that it was near a freeway offramp, though which freeway, I
can't recall.

A few years before, I actually had also bought a 1957 Hillman Commer
Cob (like a Husky but a panel truck instead of with side windows)
there (with a later OHV Hillman engine installed) from them.  It was
their parts delivery vehicle and they were upgrading to something
else.

What I'm looking for is the correct name and possibly, address of the
place.  This is just for my records as I am trying to trace my
automotive history, particularly, my long Lotus history.... all the
cars

Thanks for any help, Rick.

Rod Bean
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep 23 11:14:53 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:14:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - CA Pollution regs
In-Reply-To: <17889925C4A24DFFA4B92797304EEA2B@Home>
Message-ID: <C6DFA59D.20D86%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Hondas almost always pass with flying colours. EGR valves usually need
replacing at 250,000 miles. The CATs outlast the cars.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep 23 11:15:08 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:15:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car dealers
In-Reply-To: <007401ca3c71$0a1db310$1e591930$@net>
References: <18435245.1253722964748.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<007401ca3c71$0a1db310$1e591930$@net>
Message-ID: <2B0460607A6343E6907FAEAC11DE5CBD@spider>

... and 1958 Vespa motor parts at Sears tower downtown, by the Oscar
Meyer(?) meat plant with the high walls and smell.  ...bill in oregon

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Evans
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:13 AM
To: 'Rod Bean'; spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers

I will go through my old receipts and see what I can find.  I used to buy
all of my odds and sods there, but lordy, that was 40 years ago.  I think of
that dealership every week when I pass by what is now a vacant lot next to
the Santa Ana (5) Freeway and Anaheim Boulevard.  What great days those were
when you could actually buy English parts from dealers all over Southern
California.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 11:16:08 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:16:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <C6DFA4D7.20D80%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <4333f8140909230928m271b6affx5498654afbadfe86@mail.gmail.com>
	<C6DFA4D7.20D80%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909231016s13134d85j189764d6d2cdaf09@mail.gmail.com>

>> I'm sorry but Fox and News do not belong together.  It is Faux News
>> Hal

> Obviously you've never watched it.

Naw, he was just narrowing it down too far. TV and News are uneasy
bedfellows at best.
David L

From heard at datatrontech.net  Wed Sep 23 11:17:13 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:17:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <C6DFA4D7.20D80%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <4333f8140909230928m271b6affx5498654afbadfe86@mail.gmail.com>
	<C6DFA4D7.20D80%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <096001ca3c71$b17cfd50$1801010a@xp>

My thoughts exactly!

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:12 PM
To: Hal Faulkner; Jim Johnson
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

> I'm sorry but Fox and News do not belong together.  It is Faux News 
> Hal
Obviously you've never watched it.
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From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Sep 23 11:23:26 2009
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:23:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
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Fair and Balanced!!  PLUS Glenn Beck!!  

Threads like this make me want to go buy more ammo...

Mark 
Nashville


----- Original Message ----- 

I'm sorry but Fox and News do not belong together.  It is Faux News
Hal

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 11:35:31 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:35:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090923.080751.21818.0@webmail02.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <774904.85176.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mark,
I use a Mr. Gasket pump on my '71.  Since the pump puts out about 8psi
(if I remember correctly) I also use a regulator that drops the pressure to
about 2.5psi.  Have used it for almost 2 years with Zero problems. Bought it
at Pep Boys, but lots of stores carry the same pump.  It is a pusher type
pump, so must be mounted near the tank like the SU electrics are.  I just
fabbed up a bracket to adapt it to the stock mounting points.  
David Booker
'71 Midget
Long Island




________________________________
From: Mark Haynes
<haynes386 at netzero.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday,
September 23, 2009 10:07:51 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps

What
are people running for electric fuel pumps? I replaced the mechanical one
in
the '58 so that I could make it to the Colorado Conclave, and all that did
was
waste my time and piss me off when it vapor locked every 3 miles (never
did
make it to Conclave). It's time for an electric that works. What are
people
running that supplies 3 psi? Any experience with the Facet pumps (the
block,
not the cast plastic- I tried one and it died too) that push 3psi at
most? Any
wiring tips for the Facet-i.e. do I need to attach the (-) wire to
the body of
the pump as well as the (-) wire to keep it alive? (I'll isolate
the pump from
the car body to limit vibration and isolate (-) and (+)).


Mark Haynes
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 12:20:07 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:20:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <688E4EECD18743548E18A2F1859F79AC@CT>
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I can't take time to answer these emails right now.  The little voice in my
head told me to clean all my guns and get them ready.....



On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:

> Fair and Balanced!!  PLUS Glenn Beck!!
> Threads like this make me want to go buy more ammo...
>
> Mark Nashville
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> I'm sorry but Fox and News do not belong together.  It is Faux News
> Hal
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Wed Sep 23 12:31:30 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:31:30 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV8A5E385D7C4163DFBD132C8DB0@phx.gbl>

My thoughts exactly though I've never watched FOX, either.

Hal


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:12 PM
To: Hal Faulkner; Jim Johnson
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

> I'm sorry but Fox and News do not belong together.  It is Faux News 
> Hal
Obviously you've never watched it.
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 12:54:10 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:54:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
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You are supposed to keep them ready!!  And if they are old enough no  
one has any idea that you own them... muhaHaHAAAAAA!!!

Lester


On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:

> I can't take time to answer these emails right now.  The little  
> voice in my
> head told me to clean all my guns and get them ready.....
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
>
>> Fair and Balanced!!  PLUS Glenn Beck!!
>> Threads like this make me want to go buy more ammo...
>>
>> Mark Nashville

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep 23 13:03:36 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:03:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car  dealers
In-Reply-To: <2B0460607A6343E6907FAEAC11DE5CBD@spider>
Message-ID: <C6DFBF18.18510%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

And who was the big sports car dealer on the north side of Chicago in the
late '50s/ early '60s? He had Studebaker, Mercedes, Jaguar, MG, Austin
Healey, Triumph, and a bunch of used Alfas and Morgans.
I remember sitting in the showroom in a brand new '62 Sprite and imagining
that I'd be able to save enough to buy one by the time I was seventeen.
I was somehow off by 32 years, and my math hasn't improved much since then.
BTW, I do remember discovering in the early '80s that Sears still had Vespa
parts, and that the prices had hardly gone up since they were new.
BZ

From davriker at nwi.net  Wed Sep 23 13:26:38 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:26:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
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Message-ID: <B6572054F9D4431DA1B9E50C1A5063FF@MAIN>

Even the factory gave up on mechanical fuel pumps.  (At least until the guys 
at Triumph took over).  Why not go with their solution?  I've been running 
an SU fuel pump for 10 years, one of the new ones that don't have points. No 
problems what so ever.  Mounts to the rear bulk head, right side, in front 
of the axle.  Pushes from the back, no more vapor lock, designed to output 
3psi.  One wire, run from the front of the car, switched hot when ignition 
is turned on.  Done.
David R.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herbert Miller" <hgmiller3 at qwest.net>
To: "'Mark Haynes'" <haynes386 at netzero.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps


> Mark:
> Why replace your mechanical pump? By far the most popular post to this 
> list
> and other LBC lists involve troubles with electric fuel pumps. Electric
> pumps = additional non standard wiring and plumbing. The mechanical pump 
> is
> dead reliable, with no additional wiring hazards. Further more if the car
> sits for a while, the time the mechanical takes to fill the float bowels
> allows oil pressure to build up.
>
> Herb Miller
> 1960 Bugeye 1275 with single HIF44 and high volume Mini mechanical fuel
> pump, which will probably last longer than I will.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:08 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
>
> What are people running for electric fuel pumps? I replaced the mechanical
> one
> in the '58 so that I could make it to the Colorado Conclave, and all that
> did
> was waste my time and piss me off when it vapor locked every 3 miles 
> (never
> did make it to Conclave). It's time for an electric that works. What are
> people running that supplies 3 psi? Any experience with the Facet pumps 
> (the
> block, not the cast plastic- I tried one and it died too) that push 3psi 
> at
> most? Any wiring tips for the Facet-i.e. do I need to attach the (-) wire 
> to
> the body of the pump as well as the (-) wire to keep it alive? (I'll 
> isolate
> the pump from the car body to limit vibration and isolate (-) and (+)).
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 23 13:57:23 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:57:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV8A5E385D7C4163DFBD132C8DB0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV8A5E385D7C4163DFBD132C8DB0@phx.gbl>
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Robert E. Shlafer wrote:  " My thoughts exactly though I've never watched
FOX, either."

Fox?  The only fox I watch are at the beach.  What IS fox?  I have not
watched a single minute of TV since a near-death experience back in the
Mesozoic era.  Or subscribed to a newspaper!  And am far better for it!

/s/ An ex-reporter and publisher




-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:32 AM
To: 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

My thoughts exactly though I've never watched FOX, either.

Hal


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:12 PM
To: Hal Faulkner; Jim Johnson
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad

> I'm sorry but Fox and News do not belong together.  It is Faux News 
> Hal
Obviously you've never watched it.
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From gmari2 at verizon.net  Wed Sep 23 14:02:24 2009
From: gmari2 at verizon.net (gmari2 at verizon.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:02:24 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiomobile?
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/xrBF1n: Permission denied

From twobees at sprynet.com  Wed Sep 23 14:13:19 2009
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:13:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Test email
Message-ID: <000501ca3c8a$4bcbc7c0$6401a8c0@normoffice>

Sorry to bother y'all.  Just trying to solve problems I've been having
reaching you guys & gals.
 
Norm

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Wed Sep 23 14:15:23 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:15:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: California Ammunition
 Restrictions Proposed - no lbc
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But how does your cat feel about the jokes?

Paul A


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  Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:02 PM
  Subject: RE: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: California Ammunition Restrictions
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 23 14:18:03 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:18:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car dealers
In-Reply-To: <C6DFBF18.18510%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <2B0460607A6343E6907FAEAC11DE5CBD@spider>
	<C6DFBF18.18510%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
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Billy Zoom wrote:  "BTW, I do remember discovering in the early '80s that
Sears still had Vespa parts, and that the prices had hardly gone up since
they were new.

I still have some of those Sears sports car parts catalogs from as late as
1979.  Ah, yes, the prices--$94.99 for an Amco Sprite soft top;  $40.99 for
a Sprite starter.  I could go on, but it only makes me cry.

From breton48 at live.com  Wed Sep 23 14:18:19 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:18:19 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
In-Reply-To: <009601ca3c88$11d2ffe0$3578ffa0$@net>
References: <BAY118-DAV8A5E385D7C4163DFBD132C8DB0@phx.gbl>
	<009601ca3c88$11d2ffe0$3578ffa0$@net>
Message-ID: <BLU134-DS1CEBF4E660153344CBBD8AFDB0@phx.gbl>

Just talked to a chap at Pierce manifolds... they stock the Weber 40 DCOE
151 at $399 a pop, jetted identically to what I have in my Lotus - 30
venturi, 115 main jets, F11 emulsion tube, etc... They don't stock the OER
in anything smaller than 45, and the minimum venturi size is 32. Still, that
might work in my Lotus, and 32 was the original size of venturi fitted to
the twin cam. As the price for the OER is $260 compared with the $399 for
the Weber, I might give those Japanese carb a try, and have the added bonus
of external adjustment of the float and accelerator pump.

JLC in the Black Forest, Colorado

PS: the chap also told me to send him an email, and he will see if he can
get OER 40s, as it seems they were or are made in that size.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 14:24:59 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:24:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car  dealers
In-Reply-To: <00ab01ca3c8a$f6897f40$e39c7dc0$@net>
Message-ID: <697851.61988.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
> a Sprite starter.  I could go on, but it only makes me
> cry.

And you're usually such a positive guy!

<wink>

Ron

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 23 14:38:39 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:38:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Fw: California Ammunition
 Restrictions Proposed - no lbc
In-Reply-To: <011f01ca3c8a$95c2b780$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <727531.18445.qm@web52109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<009701ca3c88$c4ae8170$4e0b8450$@net>
	<011f01ca3c8a$95c2b780$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <00b501ca3c8d$d5e57340$81b059c0$@net>

Paul A wrote:  "But how does your cat feel about the jokes?"

Well, Cadbury (the Chocolate point Siamese) laughs his ass off.  But the
girls (both Bluepoint Siamese) are typical female and get pissed off.  You
should see all of the scratches on my monitor screen!  (AND they have
memorized a few names from this list in case they ever meet them in person!)

From mikey at b2systems.com  Wed Sep 23 15:07:08 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:07:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
Message-ID: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>

  Hoping someone here might know my options.

 I have NOT read the contract yet, I am at work and the contract is at
home, so I have NOT done my homework yet.

 3 weeks ago my daughter (she is 19) without asking permission or first
talking to me, traded in her car 04 Mustang Convertible on a 06 Jeep
Liberty.  I was not too unhappy about it because it got me off her
Mustang as a co-signer, although I was unhappy she did it without
consulting me or my wife.

 Today the car dealership called and said she did not qualify for the
loan and she needs one of us to co-sign for the loan OR she needs to
bring in $1,400 to bring the loan down to what she qualified to.

 Now this is 3 weeks after she bought the car, everything was signed 3
weeks ago. I can't believe a dealership would let a car off the lot
without knowing exactly what she qualified for and without everything
taken care of but they are insisting that I or my wife come in and
co-sign or she write them a check.  She does not have the money by the
way, so I would have to give it to her.

 I am extremely reluctant to pay the $1,400 but I would do it to keep
her off my credit report. What are our options here ?  I realize none of
you have seen the contract either, can I make them unwind the deal and
give the Jeep back and cash for the Mustang that they have already sold
off the lot ?  Or force them to accept the deal as it was made 3 weeks
ago ?  We would lose a lot on the Mustang but I would prefer it as they
did not give us a lot on it but I would be ok with it.

 I prefer to unwind the deal by not co-signing and not giving her the
$1,400.  This is in Calif. if the laws make any difference.  And I will
be reading the contract this afternoon and going in to the dealership
and arguing loudly, thought I would get opinions first.

   Mike 

p.s. sorry for no LBC content but there could be a MGB in her future if
we can unwind this.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Sep 23 15:24:36 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:24:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <32BE79C9B30E412A8C85CDD90BC90ABA@spider>

Get an attorney and ask his advice. Depending on the state, you do have
rights. 
I would avoid co-signing anything with another adult. ...bill in oregon
====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of mike rambour
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:07 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC

  Hoping someone here might know my options.

 I have NOT read the contract yet, I am at work and the contract is at
home, so I have NOT done my homework yet.

 3 weeks ago my daughter (she is 19) without asking permission or first
talking to me, traded in her car 04 Mustang Convertible on a 06 Jeep
Liberty.  I was not too unhappy about it because it got me off her
Mustang as a co-signer, although I was unhappy she did it without
consulting me or my wife.

 Today the car dealership called and said she did not qualify for the
loan and she needs one of us to co-sign for the loan OR she needs to
bring in $1,400 to bring the loan down to what she qualified to.

 Now this is 3 weeks after she bought the car, everything was signed 3
weeks ago. I can't believe a dealership would let a car off the lot
without knowing exactly what she qualified for and without everything
taken care of but they are insisting that I or my wife come in and
co-sign or she write them a check.  She does not have the money by the
way, so I would have to give it to her.

 I am extremely reluctant to pay the $1,400 but I would do it to keep
her off my credit report. What are our options here ?  I realize none of
you have seen the contract either, can I make them unwind the deal and
give the Jeep back and cash for the Mustang that they have already sold
off the lot ?  Or force them to accept the deal as it was made 3 weeks
ago ?  We would lose a lot on the Mustang but I would prefer it as they
did not give us a lot on it but I would be ok with it.

 I prefer to unwind the deal by not co-signing and not giving her the
$1,400.  This is in Calif. if the laws make any difference.  And I will
be reading the contract this afternoon and going in to the dealership
and arguing loudly, thought I would get opinions first.

   Mike 

p.s. sorry for no LBC content but there could be a MGB in her future if
we can unwind this.
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 15:32:49 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:32:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909231432k4a52143foa2a4fa9dff9d795b@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:
<snip>
What are our options here ?
</snip>

I had a daughter that age once.  Unfortunately they are too big and too
quick.  You can't eat your young.......  And all the most desirable means of
disposing of them will put you in jail for the rest of your life.....
;-)

--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 16:10:05 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:10:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909231432k4a52143foa2a4fa9dff9d795b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
	<43840a7e0909231432k4a52143foa2a4fa9dff9d795b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ABA9CBD.9090800@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:
> <snip>
> What are our options here ?
> </snip>
>
> I had a daughter that age once.  Unfortunately they are too big and too
> quick.  You can't eat your young.......  And all the most desirable means of
> disposing of them will put you in jail for the rest of your life.....
> ;-)
>
>   
Yeah, I am the co-signer on my daughter's VW which is worth 5k less than 
she owes.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Wed Sep 23 16:23:32 2009
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:23:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car  dealers
In-Reply-To: <00ab01ca3c8a$f6897f40$e39c7dc0$@net>
References: <2B0460607A6343E6907FAEAC11DE5CBD@spider>
	<C6DFBF18.18510%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<00ab01ca3c8a$f6897f40$e39c7dc0$@net>
Message-ID: <200909232223.n8NMNkFN018997@mail.usimperio.com>

I only paid $30 more than that for my AMCO (NOS) top I bought 5 years 
ago. Still in the original box.

Dave



At 04:18 PM 9/23/2009, you wrote:
>Billy Zoom wrote:
>
>I still have some of those Sears sports car parts catalogs from as late as
>1979.  Ah, yes, the prices--$94.99 for an Amco Sprite soft top;  $40.99 for
>a Sprite starter.  I could go on, but it only makes me cry.
>_______________________________________________

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 17:06:58 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:06:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <441250190909231606j3394de67g3ceebd3af882e61a@mail.gmail.com>

I would read the contract. I am not a lawyer so; I think it depends on the
fine print, but I smell a scam.   II would get a lawyer and see that they
have to say.  Also check out:

http://www.carbuyingtips.com/scams.htm#Scam1

Bill

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:07 PM, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:

>  Hoping someone here might know my options.
>
>  I have NOT read the contract yet, I am at work and the contract is at
> home, so I have NOT done my homework yet.
>
>  3 weeks ago my daughter (she is 19) without asking permission or first
> talking to me, traded in her car 04 Mustang Convertible on a 06 Jeep
> Liberty.  I was not too unhappy about it because it got me off her
> Mustang as a co-signer, although I was unhappy she did it without
> consulting me or my wife.
>
>  Today the car dealership called and said she did not qualify for the
> loan and she needs one of us to co-sign for the loan OR she needs to
> bring in $1,400 to bring the loan down to what she qualified to.
>
>  Now this is 3 weeks after she bought the car, everything was signed 3
> weeks ago. I can't believe a dealership would let a car off the lot
> without knowing exactly what she qualified for and without everything
> taken care of but they are insisting that I or my wife come in and
> co-sign or she write them a check.  She does not have the money by the
> way, so I would have to give it to her.
>
>  I am extremely reluctant to pay the $1,400 but I would do it to keep
> her off my credit report. What are our options here ?  I realize none of
> you have seen the contract either, can I make them unwind the deal and
> give the Jeep back and cash for the Mustang that they have already sold
> off the lot ?  Or force them to accept the deal as it was made 3 weeks
> ago ?  We would lose a lot on the Mustang but I would prefer it as they
> did not give us a lot on it but I would be ok with it.
>
>  I prefer to unwind the deal by not co-signing and not giving her the
> $1,400.  This is in Calif. if the laws make any difference.  And I will
> be reading the contract this afternoon and going in to the dealership
> and arguing loudly, thought I would get opinions first.
>
>   Mike
>
> p.s. sorry for no LBC content but there could be a MGB in her future if
> we can unwind this.
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Wed Sep 23 17:43:49 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:43:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <4ABA9CBD.9090800@comcast.net>
References: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
	<43840a7e0909231432k4a52143foa2a4fa9dff9d795b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ABA9CBD.9090800@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <010101ca3ca7$b38010c0$1a803240$@net>

Frank Clarici wrote:  "Yeah, I am the co-signer on my daughter's VW which is
worth 5k less than she owes."

I told mine, "No, I won't co-sign for you.  Earn and save your own money."
If I did loan them any money, they got a passbook from me and paid the going
bank interest rate.  And yes, I did repo one of their cars.

Pam and I told all of our children that we were raising them the same way
our parents raised us.  And we thought our parents did a pretty good job.
On the other hand, the people across the street *gave* their son his first
car--a new 280.  Of course, although he lives less than 5 miles away, he
shows his deep appreciation by bring his wife and child to see them about
once a year.  If they are lucky (once it was almost 3 years).

The funny thing is, WE wound up with the best kids, and they are raising
theirs in the same strict, horrible, mean and cruel way we raised *them*!
So we must have done something right.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep 23 18:00:34 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:00:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <010101ca3ca7$b38010c0$1a803240$@net>
Message-ID: <C6E004B2.20D9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

>  the people across the street *gave* their son his first
> car-
My folks frequently had to borrow money from me to get their cars out of the
shop or to make the house payment. Times have changed.

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 18:03:19 2009
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:03:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8752.1253744634.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.8752.1253744634.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4ABAB747.8070102@comcast.net>

mike rambour wrote:
 > Today the car dealership called and said she did not qualify for the
 > loan and she needs one of us to co-sign for the loan OR she needs to
 > bring in $1,400 to bring the loan down to what she qualified to.

IANAL, but she's of legal age to enter a contract without you. So
the dealer can pound sand for the co-sign. Maybe the salesperson
will co-sign the loan so he/she can get their commission.

I'd take my daughter down there and say "Deals off. I'll take my car back."
Then watch them squirm.  Don't give them the extra $1400.  See what happens.
The options they gave you work for the dealership; they obviously don't
work for you. You are more than happy to "undo" the deal. The problem is
that they cannot undo it. Let them take the loss. :)

But seeing a lawyer will give you more ammunition to play their game.
I don't see how you can lose this one.  For example, (again, IANAL),
they knew you daughter wouldn't qualify for the loan, but they did the
deal anyway and auctioned off her car. Now "you" have to come up with
the extra money that they wanted up front but thought they could get
*after* the fact.

Yeah, get a lawyer. Have fun with it. Screw 'em.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From sales at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 23 18:20:27 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:20:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <4ABAB747.8070102@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.8752.1253744634.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4ABAB747.8070102@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4ABABB4B.6090407@justbrits.com>

<< But seeing a lawyer will give you more ammunition to play their game. >>

Whilst your idea is good Kent, where it me I would use a FREE
one.<G>  Here in IL they are known a States Attorney(s).
The 'office' will know IMMEDIATELY if scam or pseudo-scam.
They may already have file(s) on the Dealer for past cr*p like
Mike's situation.  Of course, the reverse could also be true
(that their *claim* is legit).

My .02.

Ed

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 23 18:20:28 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:20:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car  delers
In-Reply-To: <18435245.1253722964748.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <18435245.1253722964748.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4ABABB4C.1020109@frontiernet.net>

Kjel Qvale used to have a huge British car dealership in CA.  Not being 
a Kalifornian, I couldn't tell you if it was in San Francisco or San 
Diego, but I think it was somewhere in the LA area.

kate


rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net wrote:
> Question about Calif. defunct British Car dealers
>
> This just in from Rod Bean - Can anyone on this list help???
>
> Contact Rod directly, but please CC me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rod Bean <rodbean at earthlink.net>
> Date: Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:11 AM
> Subject: Question about Calif. defunct British Car delers
> To: Rick Feibusch <rfeibusch1 at gmail.com>
>
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> I've been trying to remember the place where I purchased my first
> Lotus Elan (of many since) in 1969.  It was a 1964 purchased used from
> a large British car dealership in Anaheim.  The place might have been
> a distributorship.  They handled all the BMC marques and was named
> something like British Motors or British Car Distributors, British
> Motor Corporation of Anaheim or something like that.  I seem to
> remember that it was near a freeway offramp, though which freeway, I
> can't recall.
>
> A few years before, I actually had also bought a 1957 Hillman Commer
> Cob (like a Husky but a panel truck instead of with side windows)
> there (with a later OHV Hillman engine installed) from them.  It was
> their parts delivery vehicle and they were upgrading to something
> else.
>
> What I'm looking for is the correct name and possibly, address of the
> place.  This is just for my records as I am trying to trace my
> automotive history, particularly, my long Lotus history.... all the
> cars
>
> Thanks for any help, Rick.
>
> Rod Bean
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 18:43:53 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:43:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <B6572054F9D4431DA1B9E50C1A5063FF@MAIN>
Message-ID: <449046.82927.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, David Riker <davriker at nwi.net> wrote:
> Even the factory
gave up on
> mechanical fuel pumps.  

Only because they cost more to mass
produce. No other inherent benefit. 

Ron

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Sep 23 18:44:04 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:44:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909231120o4dd3d5f0i6fd916b24350ebfa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1006605987-1253712890-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-433874444-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<9BED9FFA-DDED-4C0D-90D3-38BC3798BE3D@comcast.net>
	<CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830>
	<43840a7e0909230902x9eae4c3l441b456810b03c8f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4333f8140909230928m271b6affx5498654afbadfe86@mail.gmail.com>
	<688E4EECD18743548E18A2F1859F79AC@CT>
	<43840a7e0909231120o4dd3d5f0i6fd916b24350ebfa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ABAC0D4.4040408@frontiernet.net>

Already took care of all of mine.

Kate

Jim Johnson wrote:
> I can't take time to answer these emails right now.  The little voice in my
> head told me to clean all my guns and get them ready.....

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Sep 23 18:46:20 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:46:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car   delers
In-Reply-To: <4ABABB4C.1020109@frontiernet.net>
References: <18435245.1253722964748.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<4ABABB4C.1020109@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <A09BDD00-5D8A-4011-819D-3F12EE52AF0E@ado13.com>

It was in San Francisco. He is still in the car business.


On Sep 23, 2009, at 5:20 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote:

> Kjel Qvale used to have a huge British car dealership in CA.  Not  
> being a Kalifornian, I couldn't tell you if it was in San Francisco  
> or San Diego, but I think it was somewhere in the LA area.
>
> kate

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 18:47:50 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:47:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Question about Calif. defunct British Car  dealers
In-Reply-To: <00ab01ca3c8a$f6897f40$e39c7dc0$@net>
Message-ID: <286564.95374.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Robert Evans <b-evans at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
1979...$40.99 for
> a Sprite starter.  I could go on, but it only makes me
>
cry.

Actually, adjusted for inflation, that's $122 today. A new gear
reduction starter costs $99. 

Half full glass,
Ron

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Wed Sep 23 19:41:44 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:41:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D546D115679F4C1991797E59DADB0C06@leovs802bt6yj7>

want to start a football like pot on the final price of this car:)  I say it 
will end at around 235K...  Step up and place your bets.  Closeest one wins 
a used sprite starte:)

Leo
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay


> Item number:  300348776161
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300348776161
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From jessmd1 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 20:02:05 2009
From: jessmd1 at comcast.net (Jess Power)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:02:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye
Message-ID: <0301F260-2082-4AFE-90EF-886E8B7A4C38@comcast.net>

  Hello,I am new to the list.I am looking to purchase a bugeye with  
1275cc motor and ribcase tranny.Looking for a good car.I really like  
the car in black or cherry red.Any leads would be greatly  
appreciated.  Jess

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 20:05:27 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:05:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
References: <20090923.093352.16785.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <1EE2779DC3A344F1891CCECE67D644BE@blackbox2>

I was thinking about getting one of these:
http://tinyurl.com/pb9g4e 

It's a rotary so I'm hoping it will be a little less noisy than
the solid state pulse types.

It also has a fairly low pressure rating of 4 psi, which I think is better
for a spridget.

The only problem is it is a little more exspensive than the pulse types.

Anybody on the list have experience with this specific pump?

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 23 20:10:30 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:10:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <D546D115679F4C1991797E59DADB0C06@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<D546D115679F4C1991797E59DADB0C06@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <4A1F38CB812A43BD9432E052EFF5931B@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:41 PM
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay

> want to start a football like pot on the final price of this car:)  I say 
> it will end at around 235K...  Step up and place your bets.  Closeest one 
> wins a used sprite starte:)
>
> Leo
==================

I recall when somebody first predicted 6 figures.  I thought they were nuts. 
Now I think that I must be nuts because this thing has gone crazy.  $185K 
plus?  That's way, way crazy.

I can't wait to see the final price.  Unfortunately, I'll be in meetings all 
day tomorrow just like I was today.  I guess I'll have to see the aftermath 
of the craziness tomorrow night.

Remember how Ferrari prices went absolutely crazy for a while a few years 
back and then those who bought them at their peak took an extreme beating 
later?  I'm thinking that history is about to repeat itself on this thing.

I always tell my clients that following extreme trends is a good way to get 
beat up real bad.  I'm usually right on that.


LAD 

From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Sep 23 20:19:12 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:19:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <D546D115679F4C1991797E59DADB0C06@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <20090924021921.C720718765B@autox.team.net>

Well right now I'm still in the running, but if it goes over 225k I'm out.
		Crash 

want to start a football like pot on the final price of this car:)  I say it

will end at around 235K...  Step up and place your bets.  Closeest one wins 
a used sprite starte:)

Leo


> Item number:  300348776161
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300348776161

From sales at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 23 20:20:58 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:20:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: [9issa] Free Bugeye ??]
Message-ID: <4ABAD78A.5040801@justbrits.com>

A "service" of 9issa for all you NY, NJ, PA folks !!!!

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[9issa] Free Bugeye ??
Date: 	Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:35:17 -0700
From: 	Young Randall <RYoung at navcomtech.com>
To: 	9issa <9issa at justbrits.com>



http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/pts/1387712454.html

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 20:21:59 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:21:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <4A1F38CB812A43BD9432E052EFF5931B@HomePC>
Message-ID: <326385.60512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I recall
when somebody first predicted 6 figures.  I
> thought they were nuts. 

Nice
thing for my crew to say ;-).

It only takes 2 to auction. I am not as
repulsed as most by this. I think the car is a work of art, and it's been
restored by Donald and Geoff Healey. It's not like it is a Huffaker car
restored by some hillbilly (true story). You really can't do better than this.
Ron

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Sep 23 20:35:16 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:35:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <326385.60512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <326385.60512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7FE26CBC-782D-4249-AAC7-4B613665B26C@ado13.com>

The 1968 LeMans version known as the Mulsanne Sprite did 160 (there is  
a question about this speed, some think it was 154.) down the Mulsanne  
Straight at LeMans. It was pretty much the same car (i think) as the  
one on eBay. Picture and stories in vintage Racecar in September of  
2005. I"m with Ron on this one, wish I had a spare $200K but I"m all  
tied up in the market ;(.

On Sep 23, 2009, at 7:21 PM, Ron Soave wrote:

> --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> I recall
> when somebody first predicted 6 figures.  I
>> thought they were nuts.
>
> Nice
> thing for my crew to say ;-).
>
> It only takes 2 to auction. I am not as
> repulsed as most by this. I think the car is a work of art, and it's  
> been
> restored by Donald and Geoff Healey. It's not like it is a Huffaker  
> car
> restored by some hillbilly (true story). You really can't do better  
> than this.
> Ron

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 20:36:44 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:36:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye
In-Reply-To: <0301F260-2082-4AFE-90EF-886E8B7A4C38@comcast.net>
References: <0301F260-2082-4AFE-90EF-886E8B7A4C38@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4333f8140909231936g179b81elb5941d50bd0b561f@mail.gmail.com>

Jess,
Before you can get any help with Spridgets we need to know your positions
on:
Guns
Cats
Beer

Then we can talk cars.
Hal

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Jess Power <jessmd1 at comcast.net> wrote:

>  Hello,I am new to the list.I am looking to purchase a bugeye with 1275cc
> motor and ribcase tranny.Looking for a good car.I really like the car in
> black or cherry red.Any leads would be greatly appreciated.  Jess
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From dwramsey at att.net  Wed Sep 23 20:37:58 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:37:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump
Message-ID: <20090924023806.F032818787E@autox.team.net>

If you are looking for the best? http://autoperformanceengineering.com/html
Try FRB-20  yea so it is more than $15, simply the best.

                        Crash

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 20:43:54 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:43:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] bugeye
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140909231936g179b81elb5941d50bd0b561f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0301F260-2082-4AFE-90EF-886E8B7A4C38@comcast.net>
	<4333f8140909231936g179b81elb5941d50bd0b561f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909231943u437d2f7ewbefe67ed3ea4275f@mail.gmail.com>

Don't forget Zappa....oh, yeah,  Billy Zoom too.
Herb

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jess,
> Before you can get any help with Spridgets we need to know your positions
> on:
> Guns
> Cats
> Beer
>
> Then we can talk cars.
> Hal

From racerbob70 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 23 20:52:14 2009
From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:52:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <4A1F38CB812A43BD9432E052EFF5931B@HomePC>
Message-ID: <339330.1255.qm@web51607.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

  Is it just me but has anybody noticed the valve cover doesn't have a oil
filler cap, no oil cooler, newer type water temp line that is waaay too long,
newer voltage regulator box, and ty-wraps and pop rivets???????  Restored to
original??????

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
To: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>, "Spridget list"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 10:10 PM


--------------------------------------------------
From: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:41 PM
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay

> want to start a football like pot on the final price of this car:)  I say it
will end at around 235K...  Step up and place your bets.  Closeest one wins a
used sprite starte:)
>
> Leo
==================

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 20:54:30 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:54:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump
References: <20090924023806.F032818787E@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <1531CD9FE890472E8D6E8D8D0EBD7631@blackbox2>

That FRB-20 looks pretty good, but is it quiet?
   

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>

> If you are looking for the best? http://autoperformanceengineering.com/html
> Try FRB-20  yea so it is more than $15, simply the best.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 21:07:15 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:07:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <1EE2779DC3A344F1891CCECE67D644BE@blackbox2>
References: <20090923.093352.16785.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com>
	<1EE2779DC3A344F1891CCECE67D644BE@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4ABAE263.3010401@comcast.net>

Dean Hedin wrote:
> I was thinking about getting one of these:
> http://tinyurl.com/pb9g4e
I am running something similar.
About $40 from any major auto parts chain.
Made in Mexico, I have one on all my Sprites and the one on PIECES was 
12 years old when I sold the car.
The A40 also has one and is 12 years old now.
Never a problem.
Quiet, dependable and not square ;)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 21:16:10 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:16:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump
References: <20090924023806.F032818787E@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <588EC43B3F734797A930E3B58C5DE12B@blackbox2>

While we are on the topic of electric fuel pumps....

I chisled out this circuit from National Semiconductor's application note 162.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/circuits/pumpsafe.jpg

It will only power on the fuel pump if the engine is turning over.
I ordered the parts and should attempt to build the cicuit this weekend.

I'll let you know how it goes.  If I make any alterations I will post an update.

Use at your own risk.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Sep 23 21:28:08 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:28:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <4ABAE263.3010401@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C6E03558.20DC5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Lots of things were made well 12 years ago. What are they like today?

From sales at justbrits.com  Wed Sep 23 21:34:39 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:34:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <326385.60512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <326385.60512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ABAE8CF.8040206@justbrits.com>

<<I am not as repulsed as most by this. I think the car is a work of art,
and it's been restored by Donald and Geoff Healey. >>

Nor I, 'Hopper.  I think LOTS of folks are missing your
2nd sentence.  DMH was not so much into 'correct resto'
as Geoff tho<G>!!  And yes, I DID know both personally<VBG>!!

Geoff went far too soon !!

Ed

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Sep 23 21:38:48 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:38:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Fuel pumps
In-Reply-To: <C6E03558.20DC5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C6E03558.20DC5%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4ABAE9C8.3010609@comcast.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:
> Lots of things were made well 12 years ago. What are they like today?
>
>
>
>   
Good point.
Now you know WHY I restored a 64 Murray tricycle for my grandkid.
The crap out there isn't worth the box it comes in.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Wed Sep 23 22:34:43 2009
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:34:43 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <4AE87E91-F97C-4788-98FD-840EB6C47C34@comcast.net>
References: <1006605987-1253712890-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-433874444-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<9BED9FFA-DDED-4C0D-90D3-38BC3798BE3D@comcast.net>
	<CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830>
	<43840a7e0909230902x9eae4c3l441b456810b03c8f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4333f8140909230928m271b6affx5498654afbadfe86@mail.gmail.com>
	<688E4EECD18743548E18A2F1859F79AC@CT>
	<43840a7e0909231120o4dd3d5f0i6fd916b24350ebfa@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AE87E91-F97C-4788-98FD-840EB6C47C34@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <55486.70.8.33.20.1253766883.squirrel@wm.wi.net>

Hate to break the bubble, but:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp

Now 'all Guns' must be listed
on your next (2010) tax return!

Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax
form all guns that you have or own.. It will require fingerprints and a
tax of $50 per gun.

sigh.





> You are supposed to keep them ready!!  And if they are old enough no
> one has any idea that you own them... muhaHaHAAAAAA!!!
>
> Lester
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
>> I can't take time to answer these emails right now.  The little
>> voice in my
>> head told me to clean all my guns and get them ready.....
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Fair and Balanced!!  PLUS Glenn Beck!!
>>> Threads like this make me want to go buy more ammo...
>>>
>>> Mark Nashville

From john.leier at leier.org  Wed Sep 23 22:42:39 2009
From: john.leier at leier.org (John Leier)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:42:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <55486.70.8.33.20.1253766883.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <1006605987-1253712890-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-433874444-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry><9BED9FFA-DDED-4C0D-90D3-38BC3798BE3D@comcast.net><CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830><43840a7e0909230902x9eae4c3l441b456810b03c8f@mail.gmail.com><4333f8140909230928m271b6affx5498654afbadfe86@mail.gmail.com><688E4EECD18743548E18A2F1859F79AC@CT><43840a7e0909231120o4dd3d5f0i6fd916b24350ebfa@mail.gmail.com><4AE87E91-F97C-4788-98FD-840EB6C47C34@comcast.net>
	<55486.70.8.33.20.1253766883.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <2F6C5A3B3BD042A699E918015E99EAD8@Latitude830>

"sigh" is right.  did you even read it before you posted the link?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <dwoerpel at wi.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad


> Hate to break the bubble, but:
> 
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp
> 
> Now 'all Guns' must be listed
> on your next (2010) tax return!
> 
> Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax
> form all guns that you have or own.. It will require fingerprints and a
> tax of $50 per gun.
> 
> sigh.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> You are supposed to keep them ready!!  And if they are old enough no
>> one has any idea that you own them... muhaHaHAAAAAA!!!
>>
>> Lester
>>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Jim Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> I can't take time to answer these emails right now.  The little
>>> voice in my
>>> head told me to clean all my guns and get them ready.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Mark <mark at nashvilletn.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fair and Balanced!!  PLUS Glenn Beck!!
>>>> Threads like this make me want to go buy more ammo...
>>>>
>>>> Mark Nashville
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From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 00:16:48 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:16:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830>
References: <1006605987-1253712890-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-433874444-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<9BED9FFA-DDED-4C0D-90D3-38BC3798BE3D@comcast.net>
	<CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830>
Message-ID: <441250190909232316m4b666ef8y1aeb53190cac3360@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, I used that exact quote in a work email today!  Weird.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:38 AM, John Leier <john.leier at leier.org> wrote:

> Lighten up, Francis.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>hat
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sad
>
>
>  Uhh..  ninja is NOT the same as the derogatory "N" word.  HOW ON GOD'S
>>  GREEN EARTH CAN YOU MAKE THAT RACIST?!?!  Thinly veiled?!?  Are you
>>  kidding me?!!!  It's time to take a stand.  You are wrong.  Period.  I
>>  will NOT keep that meaning in mind.  And it is NOT used by nyone I  know
in
>> their 20's and 30's unless they are referring to a cat youtube  video.
You
>> know what else, niggardly is  a word in the Oxford  dictionary and has
>> NOTHING to do with race and EVERYTHING to do with  being cheap.
>>
>> No, I'm NOT GOING TO TURN THIS RANT OFF.
>>
>> I'M MAD AS HELL AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE.
>>
>> Lester
>>
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geniuses

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From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 24 05:26:25 2009
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 04:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <326385.60512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <541402.22837.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I had the opportunity to drive Bill Wood's Sebring Sprite over about 15 miles
of winding back roads in western Mass. It was a wonderful car, extremely
light, precise and with great power.  Just as the 100S is the ultimate Healey,
the Sebring is the ultimate Sprite.  Good luck to the bidders.

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
To: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>, "Spridget list"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 10:21 PM

--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I recall
when somebody first predicted 6 figures.  I
> thought they were nuts.

Nice
thing for my crew to say ;-).

It only takes 2 to auction. I am not as
repulsed as most by this. I think the car is a work of art, and it's been
restored by Donald and Geoff Healey. It's not like it is a Huffaker car
restored by some hillbilly (true story). You really can't do better than
this.
Ron
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 24 05:49:02 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:49:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <4A1F38CB812A43BD9432E052EFF5931B@HomePC>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<D546D115679F4C1991797E59DADB0C06@leovs802bt6yj7> 
Message-ID: <BLU103-W1994A9A0991A428E23B6EBC2DA0@phx.gbl>

I was thinking it would go for about $125K.
I remember a couple years ago, a guy who had restored a 1970 Sebring Sprite
Coupe
AND roadster. He tried to sell them together for IIRC $125k and didn't get
it.
There are definitely some fishy bids on this one tho.
Unfortunately I didn't win Lotto this week, so it won't be me......:-(

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>

>
> > want to start a football like pot on the final price of this car:)  I say
> > it will end at around 235K...  Step up and place your bets.  Closeest one
> > wins a used sprite starte:)
> >
> > Leo
> ==================
>
> I recall when somebody first predicted 6 figures.  I thought they were nuts.
> Now I think that I must be nuts because this thing has gone crazy.  $185K
> plus?  That's way, way crazy.
>
> I can't wait to see the final price.  Unfortunately, I'll be in meetings all
> day tomorrow just like I was today.  I guess I'll have to see the aftermath
> of the craziness tomorrow night.
>
>
> LAD
>
 		 	   		  
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From edwd at ti.com  Thu Sep 24 05:53:40 2009
From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:53:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] to co-sign or not
Message-ID: <F12EBA124C6E064B9CF1B45E67DDB7E780D3B96B@dlee02.ent.ti.com>

This, of course, is just an opinion.  Your daughter, without consulting you,
made a decision.  She and the dealership must work out her decision; else, the
lesson is not learned.  My son had a series of adult decisions at around this
age, and was accountable for their consequences.  He learned in short order.
It was very painful to watch, I wanted to jump in and save him more than I can
articulate here, but did not give in to that impulse (the same sort of impulse
that I was trying to teach him to control).  I think you are spot on about not
signing and not coughing up any money, even as badly as you may want to do
either just to relieve the pain and hassle.  That said, now that you are
involved somewhat, if your daughter asks, you can advise her to have the
dealership call the difference between the trade-in value and retail on the
Mustang 1,400.00 and call it even.  They will not lose, and if they do, there
is a lesson here for them as well.  Finally, I hope she pours over the
contract to find what her options are, and then confers with you, albeit
somewhat after the fact now, it is a good experience in reading comprehension
and speaking intelligently to someone with experience and knowledge on the
subject, much as we do when making important decisions.  Ah, the circle of
life, sorry that you and she are experiencing this, just know that you are not
alone, it seems inevitable at some point for us all.  Like my grandfather used
to say, "Pay me now, or pay me later" (shrug).  His shrug, not mine.  A
favorite quote of mine says, "If we don't learn the easy lessons they get
harder.  Pain is the way to get our attention".

Empathically,

Ed Fisher
Dallas, Tx

Texas Instruments Inc.
DLP(r) Packaging R&D
972-995-6305 office
214-882-9488 cell
972-995-0438 fax
edwd at ti.com<mailto:edwd at ti.com>

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Sep 24 06:25:33 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:25:33 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bridget the Midget
Message-ID: <BAY112-W371A000658C86FF6335A87B8DA0@phx.gbl>

... and Roy, from their visit to Ottawa



Ottawa MG site pics:

http://www.omgc.info/wordpress/?page_id=397&g2_itemId=142921



Bridget's official site:

http://bridgetthemidget.co.uk/diary/

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Sep 24 06:29:42 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:29:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<D546D115679F4C1991797E59DADB0C06@leovs802bt6yj7>
	<4A1F38CB812A43BD9432E052EFF5931B@HomePC>
Message-ID: <741DA8CE94A34A75966027BC5050E425@leovs802bt6yj7>

You might be right on the everyday cars the same as it might apply to 
everyday Ferraris BUT the special cars NEVER lose money.  They are exclusive 
because they are so limited.  Especially ones with great historical value. 
The only time one gets hurt with them is if the purchaser happens to have to 
sell in a "fire" sale which rarely happens when you reach a certain pont of 
disposable income.

Leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>; "Spridget list" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay


>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:41 PM
> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
>
>> want to start a football like pot on the final price of this car:)  I say
>> it will end at around 235K...  Step up and place your bets.  Closeest one
>> wins a used sprite starte:)
>>
>> Leo
> ==================
>
> I recall when somebody first predicted 6 figures.  I thought they were 
> nuts.
> Now I think that I must be nuts because this thing has gone crazy.  $185K
> plus?  That's way, way crazy.
>
> I can't wait to see the final price.  Unfortunately, I'll be in meetings 
> all
> day tomorrow just like I was today.  I guess I'll have to see the 
> aftermath
> of the craziness tomorrow night.
>
> Remember how Ferrari prices went absolutely crazy for a while a few years
> back and then those who bought them at their peak took an extreme beating
> later?  I'm thinking that history is about to repeat itself on this thing.
>
> I always tell my clients that following extreme trends is a good way to 
> get
> beat up real bad.  I'm usually right on that.
>
>
> LAD
>


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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 24 06:44:31 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:44:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <741DA8CE94A34A75966027BC5050E425@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<D546D115679F4C1991797E59DADB0C06@leovs802bt6yj7>
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	<741DA8CE94A34A75966027BC5050E425@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <A3E962DA25364C7CBDA2798286F0832F@HomePC>

Never say never.  That is when you get bit.



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:29 AM
To: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>; "Spridget list" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay

> You might be right on the everyday cars the same as it might apply to 
> everyday Ferraris BUT the special cars NEVER lose money.  They are 
> exclusive because they are so limited.  Especially ones with great 
> historical value. The only time one gets hurt with them is if the 
> purchaser happens to have to sell in a "fire" sale which rarely happens 
> when you reach a certain pont of disposable income.
>
> Leo
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>; "Spridget list" 
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
>
>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Leo S" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:41 PM
>> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
>>
>>> want to start a football like pot on the final price of this car:)  I 
>>> say
>>> it will end at around 235K...  Step up and place your bets.  Closeest 
>>> one
>>> wins a used sprite starte:)
>>>
>>> Leo
>> ==================
>>
>> I recall when somebody first predicted 6 figures.  I thought they were 
>> nuts.
>> Now I think that I must be nuts because this thing has gone crazy.  $185K
>> plus?  That's way, way crazy.
>>
>> I can't wait to see the final price.  Unfortunately, I'll be in meetings 
>> all
>> day tomorrow just like I was today.  I guess I'll have to see the 
>> aftermath
>> of the craziness tomorrow night.
>>
>> Remember how Ferrari prices went absolutely crazy for a while a few years
>> back and then those who bought them at their peak took an extreme beating
>> later?  I'm thinking that history is about to repeat itself on this 
>> thing.
>>
>> I always tell my clients that following extreme trends is a good way to 
>> get
>> beat up real bad.  I'm usually right on that.
>>
>>
>> LAD
>>
>
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From wmseverin at charter.net  Thu Sep 24 07:09:36 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 08:09:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W1994A9A0991A428E23B6EBC2DA0@phx.gbl>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<D546D115679F4C1991797E59DADB0C06@leovs802bt6yj7> 
	<BLU103-W1994A9A0991A428E23B6EBC2DA0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <003001ca3d18$44897910$cd9c6b30$@net>

I've held off from commenting on this one... but if the documentation is
valid, it is certainly a Holy Grail of Sprites. 

I'd expected a price north of $150,000. 

An original un-restored, documented race car, especially one that competed
at the highest levels of an international event is the ultimate rarity. This
one is the next best thing in that it was freshened up by the principals.
Something similar restored today is likely to have lots of reproduction or
incorrect crap on it, Chinese steel, modern paints, put together by some
goober... whatever. 

This is a unique car, and worth every penny of the price it's fetching. It
is rare for something made of "unobtanium" to become obtainable. If you've
got that kind of dough, buy it. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of brian S
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:49 AM
> To: spridgets list
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
> 
> I was thinking it would go for about $125K.
> I remember a couple years ago, a guy who had restored a 1970 Sebring
> Sprite
> Coupe
> AND roadster. He tried to sell them together for IIRC $125k and didn't
> get
> it.
> There are definitely some fishy bids on this one tho.
> Unfortunately I didn't win Lotto this week, so it won't be me......:-(
> 
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
> 
> 
> 
> > From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 24 08:20:14 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:20:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <003001ca3d18$44897910$cd9c6b30$@net>
Message-ID: <22051.18030.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Wm. Severin Thompson <wmseverin at charter.net> wrote:
> Something similar restored today is likely to have lots of
> reproduction or
> incorrect crap on it, Chinese steel, modern paints, put
> together by some
> goober... whatever. 

Amen, brother. A well-know blowhard on another list known for his self promotion, shoddy race prep and $10,000 motors that blow up first time out commented that why would anyone buy this when they buy a historic SCCA car for $30K and he would restore it for another $50K? I don't know how to even respond to that. 

Ron

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Sep 24 09:02:37 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:02:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] to co-sign or not
In-Reply-To: <F12EBA124C6E064B9CF1B45E67DDB7E780D3B96B@dlee02.ent.ti.com>
References: <F12EBA124C6E064B9CF1B45E67DDB7E780D3B96B@dlee02.ent.ti.com>
Message-ID: <4ABB8A0D.6060603@comcast.net>

Fisher, Ed wrote:
> This, of course, is just an opinion.  Your daughter, without consulting you,
> made a decision.  She and the dealership must work out her decision; else, the
> lesson is not learned.  My son had a series of adult decisions at around this
> age, and was accountable for their consequences.  He learned in short order.
> It was very painful to watch, I wanted to jump in and save him more than I can
> articulate here, but did not give in to that impulse
This is excellent advice.
I have been through a similar situation, yes it hurts to watch the kids 
learn but it teaches them a very valuable lesson in the long run.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 10:36:47 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:36:47 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
Message-ID: <d01.5f04c86d.37ecfa1f@aol.com>

That's what I'd do.  Dealer's mistake so their problem.
 
In a message dated 23/09/2009 22:08:16 GMT Daylight Time,  
mikey at b2systems.com writes:

I prefer  to unwind the deal by not co-signing and not giving her  the
$1,400.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 10:42:26 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:42:26 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <c96.49aaca71.37ecfb72@aol.com>

You have to know your history!  The valve cover is blanked because the  
engine has a seperate oil tank filler which has a large monza cap on it.   You 
can see it in the background in one engine bay photo.
 
Don't know about the other stuff.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 24/09/2009 03:53:18 GMT Daylight Time,  
racerbob70 at yahoo.com writes:

Is it just me but has anybody noticed the valve cover doesn't have a  oil
filler cap, no oil cooler, newer type water temp line that is waaay too  
long,
newer voltage regulator box, and ty-wraps and pop rivets???????   Restored 
to
original??????

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 10:56:56 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:56:56 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <c6e.3f126392.37ecfed8@aol.com>

If you choke a 45 down to a 32 choke it generally flows less and doesn't  
perform as well as 40 in the same size.  That of course begs the question  
why it's possible to choke down if it's a bad idea - I don't have an  answer.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 23/09/2009 21:23:24 GMT Daylight Time, breton48 at live.com 
 writes:

They  don't stock the OER
in anything smaller than 45, and the minimum venturi  size is 32

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 11:00:14 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:00:14 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
Message-ID: <d00.6120cb2f.37ecff9e@aol.com>

The deal with my girls age 13 and 7 is that if they run a classic, such as  
a Spridget or maybe a Morris Minor but NOT A VW Beetle (AKA Herbie) I will 
help  them buy it, or just buy it and maintain it for them.
 
However, if they want a modern car they buy it, run it and pay to have it  
serviced and I'll have nothing to do with it.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 24/09/2009 00:52:40 GMT Daylight Time,  b-eva
ns at earthlink.net writes:

Frank  Clarici wrote:  "Yeah, I am the co-signer on my daughter's VW which  
is
worth 5k less than she owes."

I told mine, "No, I won't co-sign  for you.  Earn and save your own money."
If I did loan them any  money

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 11:04:15 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:04:15 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <c75.5c52e48c.37ed008f@aol.com>

Does he still have it and do you have any pics.  I had a passenger  ride 
from the back of the Embers to the front and Bill explained it was very  
nearly out of gas else we'd have gone for a blast.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 24/09/2009 12:26:39 GMT Daylight Time,  
healeyrick at yahoo.com writes:

I had  the opportunity to drive Bill Wood's Sebring Sprite over about 15 
miles
of  winding back roads in western Mass. It was a wonderful car,  extremely
light, precise and with great power.  

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Sep 24 11:48:28 2009
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:48:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <c96.49aaca71.37ecfb72@aol.com>
References: <c96.49aaca71.37ecfb72@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000a01ca3d3f$4e073690$ea15a3b0$@com>

I've had the great pleasure of seeing, working on, driving, trailering, or
filming a bunch of the ex-Works cars, and also was fortunate to get to know
Geoff Healey and Roger Menadue.  There are all sorts of "correct" bits and
pieces on cars like this one that would be cast aside by the uninformed.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:42 AM
> To: racerbob70 at yahoo.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
> 
> You have to know your history!  The valve cover is blanked because the
> engine has a seperate oil tank filler which has a large monza cap on
> it.   You
> can see it in the background in one engine bay photo.
> 
> Don't know about the other stuff.
> 
> Weslake-Monza 1330
> 
> In a message dated 24/09/2009 03:53:18 GMT Daylight Time,
> racerbob70 at yahoo.com writes:
> 
> Is it just me but has anybody noticed the valve cover doesn't have a
> oil
> filler cap, no oil cooler, newer type water temp line that is waaay too
> long,
> newer voltage regulator box, and ty-wraps and pop rivets???????
> Restored
> to

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 24 11:57:43 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:57:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <000a01ca3d3f$4e073690$ea15a3b0$@com>
References: <c96.49aaca71.37ecfb72@aol.com>
	<000a01ca3d3f$4e073690$ea15a3b0$@com>
Message-ID: <200909241057143.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

The regulator would likely have been used as it was extant and in use 
by other BMC cars of the period in higher draw applications.
         Peter C
=
At 12:48 PM 9/24/2009, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote:
>I've had the great pleasure of seeing, working on, driving, trailering, or
>filming a bunch of the ex-Works cars, and also was fortunate to get to know
>Geoff Healey and Roger Menadue.  There are all sorts of "correct" bits and
>pieces on cars like this one that would be cast aside by the uninformed.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
> > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:42 AM
> > To: racerbob70 at yahoo.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
> >
> > You have to know your history!  The valve cover is blanked because the
> > engine has a seperate oil tank filler which has a large monza cap on
> > it.   You
> > can see it in the background in one engine bay photo.
> >
> > Don't know about the other stuff.
> >
> > Weslake-Monza 1330
> >
> > In a message dated 24/09/2009 03:53:18 GMT Daylight Time,
> > racerbob70 at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > Is it just me but has anybody noticed the valve cover doesn't have a
> > oil
> > filler cap, no oil cooler, newer type water temp line that is waaay too
> > long,
> > newer voltage regulator box, and ty-wraps and pop rivets???????
> > Restored
> > to

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 24 12:40:45 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:40:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
Message-ID: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

So, what's the deal... (I don't have a tool box, btw)

Some are over $1000.  Some are $89.95   I'm thinking I'd like 
something with about 6 thin drawers, and maybe 5 bigger drawers, and 
maybe 4 casters.  Don't need locks.

What justifies either the high priced units, or the low-end ones?  I 
just need a place to put wrenches and sockets so I have an idea where 
to look the next time I need them.

Any input appreciated, abuse expected.

Peter C.

From nases at verizon.net  Thu Sep 24 12:44:52 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:44:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <B3E6881A-A6AE-4C67-8708-B0A97A04ED63@verizon.net>

The less expensive ones will have inferior drawer guides for one.   
When you get some weight in them they bind up.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Sep 24, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote:

> So, what's the deal... (I don't have a tool box, btw)
>
> Some are over $1000.  Some are $89.95   I'm thinking I'd like  
> something with about 6 thin drawers, and maybe 5 bigger drawers, and  
> maybe 4 casters.  Don't need locks.
>
> What justifies either the high priced units, or the low-end ones?  I  
> just need a place to put wrenches and sockets so I have an idea  
> where to look the next time I need them.
>
> Any input appreciated, abuse expected.
>
> Peter C.
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From wsthompson at thicko.com  Thu Sep 24 12:46:10 2009
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:46:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <007e01ca3d47$4a876500$df962f00$@com>

Bearings in the drawers vs. sliders? 

Gauge of the steel. 

Quality of the casters. (Mounting of the casters too). 

Total weight capacity (air tools and other stuff really adds up,
contributing to the failure of the drawers, etc).

Quality of the locks.

Quality and functionality of the handles.

Etc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:41 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
> 
> So, what's the deal... (I don't have a tool box, btw)
> 
> Some are over $1000.  Some are $89.95   I'm thinking I'd like
> something with about 6 thin drawers, and maybe 5 bigger drawers, and
> maybe 4 casters.  Don't need locks.
> 
> What justifies either the high priced units, or the low-end ones?  I
> just need a place to put wrenches and sockets so I have an idea where
> to look the next time I need them.
> 
> Any input appreciated, abuse expected.
> 
> Peter C.

From mikey at b2systems.com  Thu Sep 24 12:48:39 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:48:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <1253740028.3811.169.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <1253818119.3811.202.camel@WebBrowser>

 Well that was dead easy and painless.

 Even though it was not LBC related, I want to thank EVERYONE who
replied with potential options and suggestions.  Ended up not needing
them, I went there and talked to the "boss" and asked our options if I
did not want to co-sign or put up the $1,400.  His answer was there are
no options, we have to do one or the other.  A poster yesterday
mentioned the "10 day seller right to cancel" thing and sure enough its
on her contract, even though we are way past the 10 day mark, I
mentioned it and he said we could back out the deal.  He meant it as a
threat :) I took him up on it :)

  As soon as I said ok, the $1,400 went to $1,000, to $700, it was
almost funny.

  Daughter will bring the Jeep back tomorrow morning and she gets her
Mustang back and the deal is undone.  Good thing is that the Mustang was
detailed.

  I think she learned her lessons, the dealer paid her $8,500 for the
car and put it on the lot at $13,500 (she had a "friend" go look at the
car). The Kelly Blue book says its worth $12k, so she says she will look
into selling via a private party and pocket the extra $3k or so, that
will give her a $5k down payment and I might be willing to help with
more, I am Dad after all :)

 Thanks to all, I was really concerned she was going to get taken on
this one and we all know how Dads feel about that when its their
daughters.

 Back to LBC talk now... That Sebring Sprite is getting way up there,
that is one my daughter wont be getting.  Her boyfriend has a rusty but
kind of running MGB Coupe with a V8 in it, he says its a factory V8 not
a chop job but he also says its very rusty, maybe there is a
Daddy-daughter resto job in the future.  She says it looks good its just
the floorboards that are full of holes...uh uh, I have heard that
before.

 Mike  

From twobees at sprynet.com  Thu Sep 24 12:48:45 2009
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:48:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] WOW!  Sebring Sprite
Message-ID: <00a201ca3d47$a564f5f0$6401a8c0@normoffice>

Congratulations to the seller.  $208,000 for a Sprite.  Hard to believe.
But, this IS a very rare car with great provenance.  I just hope I get to
see it at a vintage race one day.
 
Norm Sippel
'59 Turner 948-powered.

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 12:56:21 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:56:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <441250190909241156v1753b260w496dc5fa6fdb18b9@mail.gmail.com>

Sometimes you pay for the name, sometimes for quality.  I purchased my boxes
either used (Kennedy) or without ball bearing slides (Craftsman).  The
really high quality ones will hold more weight.  For my use in the garage I
don't need something that can tolerate being opened and closed 50 times a
day.

My brother likes the Snap-on boxes over craftsman.  The craftsman boxes have
the drawers break and fall down. This is from the abuse of being taken to
the track every weekend.

They all come with locks.  If you are going to buy new I would wait for a
Craftsman sale and try to find a Sear coupon.  They can become affordable at
that point.

-g



On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>wrote:

> So, what's the deal... (I don't have a tool box, btw)
>
> Some are over $1000.  Some are $89.95   I'm thinking I'd like something
> with about 6 thin drawers, and maybe 5 bigger drawers, and maybe 4 casters.
>  Don't need locks.
>
> What justifies either the high priced units, or the low-end ones?  I just
> need a place to put wrenches and sockets so I have an idea where to look
the
> next time I need them.
>
> Any input appreciated, abuse expected.
>
> Peter C.
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From mikey at b2systems.com  Thu Sep 24 12:59:30 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:59:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <1253818770.3811.211.camel@WebBrowser>

oh oh I can answer this one !!!

 The difference is in drawers, heavier steel allows you to have more
tools in the drawer without it bending.   The other big difference is
ball bearing drawers, without ball bearings, you put in your 10mm wrench
and the drawer wont open anymore.

 My tool box (one of the way over $1000 models) will easily open with
several hundred pounds of tools in the drawer, do my drawers have that
much weight in them ? hell no, but its nice to use the drawers as a step
ladder (that is a joke, dont do it, mine will handle my weight but don't
do it, the drawer will open the rest of the way and you will fall on
your ass)  But I can easily have quite a bit of weight in tools and my
old Sears non-ball bearing tool chest would not open/close very easily
with a bunch of tools in it.

 After that its labels, gotta have the right color and proper labeling
some people pay extra for Snapon labels.  Mine is custom built by a
small company up in N. Calif. so no labels but exactly the drawer
arrangement I wanted and 1/4" steel bench top.

	mike

On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 13:40 -0500, Peter Caldwell wrote:
> So, what's the deal... (I don't have a tool box, btw)
> 
> Some are over $1000.  Some are $89.95   I'm thinking I'd like 
> something with about 6 thin drawers, and maybe 5 bigger drawers, and 
> maybe 4 casters.  Don't need locks.
> 
> What justifies either the high priced units, or the low-end ones?  I 
> just need a place to put wrenches and sockets so I have an idea where 
> to look the next time I need them.
> 
> Any input appreciated, abuse expected.
> 
> Peter C.

From nsliwinski at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 24 12:59:44 2009
From: nsliwinski at hotmail.com (Norbert Sliwinski)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:59:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Parts
Message-ID: <BLU147-W240983FC2FB798FD7FA67DD6DA0@phx.gbl>

Hello All.



Before I put them on ebay, I have a bunch of Bugeye parts - 2 ribbed trannies,
1275 engine all parts, rear axle, shocks and misc. other stuff. Please contact
me privately - I have compiled a parts/price list (Moss #) and have pictures
of all parts.



Norbert
 		 	   		  
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Sep 24 13:12:52 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:12:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <117113.21763.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

(I'll offer-up a direct answer as well as provide some additional info for
anyone else interested in tool boxes.)

Lower priced boxes are not as deep front to back, are made of thinner gauge
metal, and often lack ball-bearing drawer slides. These babies get pretty
heavy when they are loaded-up and you probably want to have enough room in
each drawer for like items rather than use two or three drawers for one type
of tool such as sockets.

I would guess that bottom cabs range from 12"-24" in depth.

The designer trend hit tool boxes a long time ago which accounts for much of
the fluff and so on.

You probably already know this but get a used box from a tool vendor like
Matco or Snap-On and you can save alot of $. Cosmetic condition is meaningless
as long as the drawers and locks work properly.

Determine in advance what you are going to store so you know what types of
drawers you need for shallow items like wrenches sockets etc and larger and
heavier tools like impact tools, large hammers, and such. You may even want a
side cab, although you can added that later, too.

Another option is whether you strictly want a large rolling bottom cab that
can be used as a workbench.

Like a garage, you want to plan for the future and get a box that has room for
additional items you are going to find absolutely necessary :-) to acquire
down the road.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:40 PM

So, what's the deal... (I don't have a tool box, btw)

Some are over $1000.  Some are $89.95   I'm thinking I'd like something with
about 6 thin drawers, and maybe 5 bigger drawers, and maybe 4 casters.  Don't
need locks.

What justifies either the high priced units, or the low-end ones?  I just need
a place to put wrenches and sockets so I have an idea where to look the next
time I need them.

Any input appreciated, abuse expected.

From sales at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 24 13:18:36 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:18:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] WOW!  Sebring Sprite
In-Reply-To: <00a201ca3d47$a564f5f0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
References: <00a201ca3d47$a564f5f0$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <4ABBC60C.7090602@justbrits.com>

<<I just hope I get to see it at a vintage race one day.>>

Whilst that is true Norm, I would just like to
SEE it <G> !!!

From sales at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 24 13:42:27 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:42:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <117113.21763.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <117113.21763.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ABBCBA3.6010709@justbrits.com>

<< ...and get a box that has room for additional items you are going to
find absolutely necessary :-) to acquire down the road. >>

LMAO 'cause that is TRUE, Jay !!!

I STILL have a R/A with my Snap-On guy ( of which I have
had a dozen or so of<VBG> )!!!!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 24 13:48:44 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:48:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <4ABBCBA3.6010709@justbrits.com>
References: <117113.21763.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4ABBCBA3.6010709@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <E2348118E357469AA3903A10298041D4@spider>

I see the Snap-On van around, and there is one other brand that sells to
mechanics. Flag one down and put in a request for used ones that have been
traded in. ...bill in oregon
===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sales at " Just Brits
"
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:42 PM
To: 4 - Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tool boxes

<< ...and get a box that has room for additional items you are going to
find absolutely necessary :-) to acquire down the road. >>

LMAO 'cause that is TRUE, Jay !!!

I STILL have a R/A with my Snap-On guy ( of which I have
had a dozen or so of<VBG> )!!!!
_______________________________________________

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 13:58:03 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:58:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <117113.21763.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<117113.21763.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <441250190909241258p74950624tc693769efb6acbda@mail.gmail.com>

If you can get a used vidmar, http://www.stanleyvidmar.com/
they are great.

-g



On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> (I'll offer-up a direct answer as well as provide some additional info for
> anyone else interested in tool boxes.)
>
>
> You probably already know this but get a used box from a tool vendor like
> Matco or Snap-On and you can save alot of $. Cosmetic condition is
> meaningless
> as long as the drawers and locks work properly.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 14:11:27 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:11:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909241311xb21e292p9442bd2266c4bcbb@mail.gmail.com>

Lots of good advice, even a few 'names' mentioned.
Like most, I have a number of boxes; stationary and roller.  Snap-on to
Craftsman, a "Union Super Steel" machinist box holds all my precision
instruments.  Bought that sucker in '65.

I'll say this, quality varies and you can't over emphasize the importance
for QUALITY.

Depth of drawers, ball bearings, gauge of metal and...how deep the draws
are; front to back.

Of late, I've been considering purchasing a new stack unit.  Don't know if
they're in your area, but, "Big R" has good quality and (IMHO) the prices
are good.

Can't go wrong picking up a good quality 'used' box from a garage sale or
thru the news paper.  Also, the tool guys that come around to shops often
have 'repos' they sell...again.  Or that were traded in on a better/larger
box.

One final comment, if you are like me, you can't have too many tool
boxes...always buying new tools.

Herb
PS  I can't believe YOU don't have a tool box, Peter.  How can that be???


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From gjbranch at comcast.net  Thu Sep 24 14:14:09 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:14:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4ABBD311.2040607@comcast.net>

Well mine is a Home Defect roll around with a "wood" work surface, 
though it never gets moved.  It was about $500 and I'm surprised that it 
has never let me down and it's LOADED.

Peter Caldwell wrote:
> So, what's the deal... (I don't have a tool box, btw)
>
> Some are over $1000.  Some are $89.95   I'm thinking I'd like 
> something with about 6 thin drawers, and maybe 5 bigger drawers, and 
> maybe 4 casters.  Don't need locks.
>
> What justifies either the high priced units, or the low-end ones?  I 
> just need a place to put wrenches and sockets so I have an idea where 
> to look the next time I need them.
>
> Any input appreciated, abuse expected.
>
> Peter C.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 14:44:16 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:44:16 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
Message-ID: <c37.5d0b4fb8.37ed3420@aol.com>

Something no-one has mentioned is parts availability.  You can get  parts 
for Snap-on boxes and even though my box, drawer section and roll cab are  of 
various ages and bought at different times I have managed to get them all  
'keyed alike'.  I even sold my collection of old locks for near what I paid  
for the new (I guess someone wanted a period correct lock for an an old 
snap-on  box?)
 
You need replacement sliders etc then for snap-on you can still get  them.  
Whereas I doubt that's the case for the cheaper imitations.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 24/09/2009 19:56:56 GMT Daylight Time,  
wmgilroy at gmail.com writes:

My  brother likes the Snap-on boxes 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Thu Sep 24 14:47:11 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:47:11 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
Message-ID: <d09.4bc4f532.37ed34cf@aol.com>

In the UK a trade-in box with the Snap-on man goes on at one stop and off  
at the next.  I missed out on several used boxes before I finally got one  
and had to put a pressure on the Snap-on man as a good customer etc to get  
one.
 
In a message dated 24/09/2009 20:53:40 GMT Daylight Time,  
corvallis at peoplepc.com writes:

Snap-On  van around, and there is one other brand that sells to
mechanics. Flag one  down and put in a request for used ones that have been
traded in.  ...

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 14:48:17 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:48:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump
In-Reply-To: <588EC43B3F734797A930E3B58C5DE12B@blackbox2>
References: <20090924023806.F032818787E@autox.team.net>
	<588EC43B3F734797A930E3B58C5DE12B@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10909241348l66ec89aq61f08f84d4e0fb38@mail.gmail.com>

I think the NPN should be a PNP.Herb

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> While we are on the topic of electric fuel pumps....
>
> I chisled out this circuit from National Semiconductor's application note
> 162.
>
>
> http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/circuits/pumpsafe.jpg
>
> It will only power on the fuel pump if the engine is turning over.
> I ordered the parts and should attempt to build the cicuit this weekend.
>
> I'll let you know how it goes.  If I make any alterations I will post an
> update.
>
> Use at your own risk.
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From duncan at pondhop.com  Thu Sep 24 14:59:55 2009
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:59:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909241348l66ec89aq61f08f84d4e0fb38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090924023806.F032818787E@autox.team.net>
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The transistor is part of the LM2907 chip and an NPN would be correct in
this sink configuration. It would use a PNP if it was going to source
voltage to the relay. 

Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:48 PM
To: Dean Hedin
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuel pump

I think the NPN should be a PNP.Herb

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:

> While we are on the topic of electric fuel pumps....
>
> I chisled out this circuit from National Semiconductor's application note
> 162.
>
>
>
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/circuits/pumpsafe
.jpg
>
> It will only power on the fuel pump if the engine is turning over.
> I ordered the parts and should attempt to build the cicuit this weekend.
>
> I'll let you know how it goes.  If I make any alterations I will post an
> update.
>
> Use at your own risk.
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 15:07:19 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:07:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909241348l66ec89aq61f08f84d4e0fb38@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090924023806.F032818787E@autox.team.net>
	<588EC43B3F734797A930E3B58C5DE12B@blackbox2>
	<2ad6c6b10909241348l66ec89aq61f08f84d4e0fb38@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909241407s6b4785d4sa3a89ed882f5abde@mail.gmail.com>

Easy enough to incorporate some "theft protection" in the design, no?
David L

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:48 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I think the NPN should be a PNP.Herb
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> While we are on the topic of electric fuel pumps....
>>
>> I chisled out this circuit from National Semiconductor's application note
>> 162.
>>
>>
>>
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/circuits/pumpsafe.
jpg
>>
>> It will only power on the fuel pump if the engine is turning over.
>> I ordered the parts and should attempt to build the cicuit this weekend.
>>
>> I'll let you know how it goes.  If I make any alterations I will post an
>> update.
>>
>> Use at your own risk.

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Thu Sep 24 15:09:01 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:09:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <006f01ca3d5b$3e6f99e0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Usually a huge difference is found in the drawer guides/glides.  Some don't
even have polybuttons to glide on, just a film of grease!  That lasts a
couple months!

The rollers are nice as are the dips in the guide pieces to keep the drawers
open or fully closed.  If you aren't using one constantly, some of the
lesser expensive ones work quite nicely.  But then, the guy in the giant red
truck doesn't make a comish on those!

I use an old fashioned IBM card file drawer.  A little deep, but it'll work
for the next 5 or 10 generations!!

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:40 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes


> So, what's the deal... (I don't have a tool box, btw)
>
> Some are over $1000.  Some are $89.95   I'm thinking I'd like
> something with about 6 thin drawers, and maybe 5 bigger drawers, and
> maybe 4 casters.  Don't need locks.
>
> What justifies either the high priced units, or the low-end ones?  I
> just need a place to put wrenches and sockets so I have an idea where
> to look the next time I need them.
>
> Any input appreciated, abuse expected.
>
> Peter C.
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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Sep 24 15:59:44 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:59:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909241311xb21e292p9442bd2266c4bcbb@mail.gmail.com
  >
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<2ad6c6b10909241311xb21e292p9442bd2266c4bcbb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200909241459252.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Thank you all VERY much. Great information.  Now I know what to look 
for, and adjust my sights to my anticipated needs.

I am now EDified    (speaking of which..... HIS looks suspiciously 
like a beer cooler..... with one drawer labeled POSIDRIVE ;-)

I'm a lousy consumer, Herb. I tend to not buy into hype and fashion. 
Also, after having lost everything I owned in a fire, I vowed not to 
ever get indebted emotionally, or physically to "stuff".  So, I've 
made do with boxes and bags.

Thanks again.     Peter
=
At 03:11 PM 9/24/2009, WFO Herb wrote:
>Lots of good advice, even a few 'names' mentioned.
>
>
>Herb
>PS  I can't believe YOU don't have a tool box, Peter.  How can that be???

From sales at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 24 16:12:28 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:12:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sad
In-Reply-To: <55486.70.8.33.20.1253766883.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
References: <1006605987-1253712890-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-433874444-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<9BED9FFA-DDED-4C0D-90D3-38BC3798BE3D@comcast.net>
	<CEBE8C2C223D4CD087030B0806F2C97A@Latitude830>
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	<688E4EECD18743548E18A2F1859F79AC@CT>
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	<55486.70.8.33.20.1253766883.squirrel@wm.wi.net>
Message-ID: <4ABBEECC.2060605@justbrits.com>

As I just told the Yahoo group Dave,
here is the 'nail in the coffin to STOP this 'thread' (sorry Jay<G>):

<<Hate to break the bubble, but:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/blairholt.asp_ >>_

Just read THIS with NO comment(s) required<G>:

http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/SB2099.shtml

Me

From sales at justbrits.com  Thu Sep 24 16:48:12 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:48:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Iris ???
Message-ID: <4ABBF72C.6000507@justbrits.com>

Hey Leo, why are you selling Iris ???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120472564983&category=6023&_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63

or

*http://tinyurl.com/yb3b7eh

Oh WAIT, you and she do NOT live in Cally !!!<G>!!

Anon

*

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Sep 24 17:08:50 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:08:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Tool boxes now tools
References: <200909241140238.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><117113.21763.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<441250190909241258p74950624tc693769efb6acbda@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <38F0364B24A244F8A8BC5EEF56D57037@leovs802bt6yj7>

Speaking of tools, some days they just fall in your lap.  I needed a 
particular tool for a job today and stopped by a pawn shop to see if one 
might be setting there as the particular tool I was looking for is quite 
expensive to buy for just this one job.  Walked by a shelf (marked 
clearance) and seen that one case there contained an air chiesl  gun (which 
I have been needing) and various other components of the "kit" that went 
with it. .  It was a quality looking gun and the accesories included 6 
different angled polished face dollies, 3 different machined striker heads 
for the gun, 3 different lengths of sprins for te gun head, and 12 different 
sized angle and straight rivet setters (everything except for the gun was 
still wraped in a peel away cosmoline wrapping).  I didnt regonize the mfg 
so I called them aand found out they manufacture aerospace repair tools.. 
Their price for the "kit" $595.00!!!  For a grand total of $19.00 I walked 
out of there smiling:)  Got an air chiesel gun now and some really nice 
dollies.  the rivet setters are just icing:).  Now that is how I like to buy 
tools. AND they are USA made:)

Leo 

From g.h.higgins at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 18:05:21 2009
From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:05:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite
Message-ID: <C2B25DBDDF264FBF9BE61BFC1547441D@Inspiron>

I was wondering what eBay fee(s) the seller would have to pay on $216.000 for
the sale of the car? Is cheaper to sell on eBay then some of the big car
auction companies out there? Inquiring mind.

Greg Higgins
63sprite

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Sep 24 18:21:13 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:21:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <d00.6120cb2f.37ecff9e@aol.com>
References: <d00.6120cb2f.37ecff9e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4ABC0CF9.9020607@frontiernet.net>

My mother's orders to both my brother and myself were, if we wanted a 
car, we earned the money to pay for it plus one year of full coverage 
insurance before we were allowed to drive it off the ranch. My TD cost 
$800, but the insurance was $1200. It would seem that insurance 
companies don't care for 15 year old kids driving sports cars.

Kate


WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
> The deal with my girls age 13 and 7 is that if they run a classic, such as  
> a Spridget or maybe a Morris Minor but NOT A VW Beetle (AKA Herbie) I will 
> help  them buy it, or just buy it and maintain it for them.
>  
> However, if they want a modern car they buy it, run it and pay to have it  
> serviced and I'll have nothing to do with it.
>  
> Weslake-Monza 1330
>  
> In a message dated 24/09/2009 00:52:40 GMT Daylight Time,  b-eva
> ns at earthlink.net writes:
>
> Frank  Clarici wrote:  "Yeah, I am the co-signer on my daughter's VW which  
> is
> worth 5k less than she owes."
>
> I told mine, "No, I won't co-sign  for you.  Earn and save your own money."
> If I did loan them any  money
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 24 18:24:54 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:24:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite
In-Reply-To: <C2B25DBDDF264FBF9BE61BFC1547441D@Inspiron>
References: <C2B25DBDDF264FBF9BE61BFC1547441D@Inspiron>
Message-ID: <D35CA8529ED948FAB777B64542B7BDA4@spider>

I believe it is a flat rate to list. They don't ding a % of sale price.
A lot of cars sell after an unsuccessful offering closes also. 
===========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Higgins
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:05 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite

I was wondering what eBay fee(s) the seller would have to pay on $216.000
for
the sale of the car? Is cheaper to sell on eBay then some of the big car
auction companies out there? Inquiring mind.

Greg Higgins
63sprite
_______________________________________________

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Sep 24 18:40:43 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:40:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <4ABC0CF9.9020607@frontiernet.net>
References: <d00.6120cb2f.37ecff9e@aol.com> <4ABC0CF9.9020607@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <892F1EB2B3F8414DB4310664FCDCBE53@HomePC>

15 years old, Kate?  We had to be 16.

My folks were the same way.  I had to pay for the car, all of it's 
maintenance and insurance.  In fact, their insurance went up because of a 
teenage driver in the house and I had to cover that, too, in order to get my 
license even without a car of my own.  Seemed to suck at the time, but it 
sure makes sense now.

BTW, the alternative -- a new pair of shoes -- they said they would cover. 
Such comedians.

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:21 PM
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC

> My mother's orders to both my brother and myself were, if we wanted a car, 
> we earned the money to pay for it plus one year of full coverage insurance 
> before we were allowed to drive it off the ranch. My TD cost $800, but the 
> insurance was $1200. It would seem that insurance companies don't care for 
> 15 year old kids driving sports cars.
>
> Kate
>
>
> WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>> The deal with my girls age 13 and 7 is that if they run a classic, such 
>> as  a Spridget or maybe a Morris Minor but NOT A VW Beetle (AKA Herbie) I 
>> will help  them buy it, or just buy it and maintain it for them.
>>  However, if they want a modern car they buy it, run it and pay to have 
>> it  serviced and I'll have nothing to do with it.
>>  Weslake-Monza 1330
>>  In a message dated 24/09/2009 00:52:40 GMT Daylight Time,  b-eva
>> ns at earthlink.net writes:
>>
>> Frank  Clarici wrote:  "Yeah, I am the co-signer on my daughter's VW 
>> which  is
>> worth 5k less than she owes."
>>
>> I told mine, "No, I won't co-sign  for you.  Earn and save your own 
>> money."
>> If I did loan them any  money
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Sep 24 19:04:01 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:04:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <892F1EB2B3F8414DB4310664FCDCBE53@HomePC>
References: <d00.6120cb2f.37ecff9e@aol.com> <4ABC0CF9.9020607@frontiernet.net>
	<892F1EB2B3F8414DB4310664FCDCBE53@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4ABC1701.6040707@frontiernet.net>

When I was growing up in Idaho, an instruction permit was issued at 14, 
and a daylight only license at 15. most of us had already been driving 
farm trucks for years without licenses of any kind, so having one was 
merely a bonus allowing us to go to other than the grain elevator and 
back to the ranch with a quick stop at the tavern for an ice cream cone.

Kate


Larry Daniels wrote:
> 15 years old, Kate?  We had to be 16.
>
> My folks were the same way.  I had to pay for the car, all of it's 
> maintenance and insurance.  In fact, their insurance went up because 
> of a teenage driver in the house and I had to cover that, too, in 
> order to get my license even without a car of my own.  Seemed to suck 
> at the time, but it sure makes sense now.
>
> BTW, the alternative -- a new pair of shoes -- they said they would 
> cover. Such comedians.
>
> LAD
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 7:21 PM
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
>
>> My mother's orders to both my brother and myself were, if we wanted a 
>> car, we earned the money to pay for it plus one year of full coverage 
>> insurance before we were allowed to drive it off the ranch. My TD 
>> cost $800, but the insurance was $1200. It would seem that insurance 
>> companies don't care for 15 year old kids driving sports cars.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>>
>> WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote:
>>> The deal with my girls age 13 and 7 is that if they run a classic, 
>>> such as  a Spridget or maybe a Morris Minor but NOT A VW Beetle (AKA 
>>> Herbie) I will help  them buy it, or just buy it and maintain it for 
>>> them.
>>>  However, if they want a modern car they buy it, run it and pay to 
>>> have it  serviced and I'll have nothing to do with it.
>>>  Weslake-Monza 1330
>>>  In a message dated 24/09/2009 00:52:40 GMT Daylight Time,  b-eva
>>> ns at earthlink.net writes:
>>>
>>> Frank  Clarici wrote:  "Yeah, I am the co-signer on my daughter's VW 
>>> which  is
>>> worth 5k less than she owes."
>>>
>>> I told mine, "No, I won't co-sign  for you.  Earn and save your own 
>>> money."
>>> If I did loan them any  money
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Thu Sep 24 19:27:51 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:27:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel pump
References: <20090924023806.F032818787E@autox.team.net><588EC43B3F734797A930E3B58C5DE12B@blackbox2><2ad6c6b10909241348l66ec89aq61f08f84d4e0fb38@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520909241407s6b4785d4sa3a89ed882f5abde@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <946D3035F74540BF92BA27363434B03A@blackbox2>

Sure enough.  You could easily incorporate this into an anti theft circuit.
Or even just a simple hidden switch to enable/disable the pump.

I'm thinking I might want to add an override switch in parallel with the
relay in the case where I might be troubleshooting ignition
problems or in the unlikely event that the unit should fail.

I should also mention that power (Vb) should come from the ignition switch
or an accessory relay that is turned on by the ignition switch.

Parts came tonight btw.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>


> Easy enough to incorporate some "theft protection" in the design, no?
> David L

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 24 19:28:32 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:28:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <4ABC1701.6040707@frontiernet.net>
References: <d00.6120cb2f.37ecff9e@aol.com>
	<4ABC0CF9.9020607@frontiernet.net><892F1EB2B3F8414DB4310664FCDCBE53@HomePC>
	<4ABC1701.6040707@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <A6B0326B8343434F842948B4BCE3BBB0@spider>

Taverns serve ice cream?   ...bill in Oregon

=========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bales
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:04 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC

When I was growing up in Idaho, an instruction permit was issued at 14, 
and a daylight only license at 15. most of us had already been driving 
farm trucks for years without licenses of any kind, so having one was 
merely a bonus allowing us to go to other than the grain elevator and 
back to the ranch with a quick stop at the tavern for an ice cream cone.

Kate

From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Sep 24 19:29:12 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:29:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
In-Reply-To: <4ABC0CF9.9020607@frontiernet.net>
References: <d00.6120cb2f.37ecff9e@aol.com> <4ABC0CF9.9020607@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <1824752453.20090924182912@pacifier.com>

Hello,

     My dad's rules were that we could have a car when we could afford
     to buy one. That is until my brother bought one for $20! This was
     in the mid 1960's. Dad had a fit, but he had stated the rule for
     so long, he had to live by it. Of course we were expected to pay
     for our own gas, oil, etc. .. I didn't get a car until after my
     second year of college. ..

     I had the same rules for my kids. There was no way that I was
     going to buy them a car. Nor was I going to pay for their gas,
     oil, etc, tho I have split the cost of MAJOR repairs, like
     brakes, blown engine, etc.

     Sarah has an '88 MR2. The insurance is no more for her sports car
     than it would have been for later model 4 door. At first she
     hated it because it would only seat two. I find this a safety
     factor. She also hated the stick shift. Until she learned how to
     drive one that is.

     Andrew picked up an '85 CRX HF. Again only two seats, but that
     sucker actually gets 44+ mpg on the freeway! .. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  The Light at the End of the Tunnel Could be a flame thrower. 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Sep 24 20:57:59 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:57:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Iris ???
In-Reply-To: <4ABBF72C.6000507@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <894613.99958.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Does Iris have the wrong engine paint too?

--- On Thu, 9/24/09, Sales at "
Just Brits " <sales at justbrits.com> wrote:

> From: Sales at " Just Brits "
<sales at justbrits.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Iris ???
> To: "4 - Spridgets"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:48 PM
> Hey
Leo, why are you selling Iris
> ???
> 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120472564983&ca
tegory=6023&_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUC
I%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63
> 
> or
> 
> *http://tinyurl.com/yb3b7eh
> 
> Oh WAIT,
you and she do NOT live in Cally !!!<G>!!
> 
> Anon
> 
> *
>
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Sep 24 21:31:39 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:31:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] pridgets] Iris ???
References: <894613.99958.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <0166F054B8DE4604A92F8CB6CFDFB46C@leovs802bt6yj7>

Read the ad:)  Iris definetly doesnt have a 1275 AND she has the correct 
color of e paint AND has a lucas sticker on the coil along with other gaping 
errors in a pretty nice restoration.  Also Iris wear the correc shade of 
blue:)

Leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Iris ???


> Does Iris have the wrong engine paint too?
>
> --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Sales at "
> Just Brits " <sales at justbrits.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Sales at " Just Brits "
> <sales at justbrits.com>
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Iris ???
>> To: "4 - Spridgets"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:48 PM
>> Hey
> Leo, why are you selling Iris
>> ???
>>
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120472564983&ca
> tegory=6023&_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUC
> I%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63
>>
>> or
>>
>> *http://tinyurl.com/yb3b7eh
>>
>> Oh WAIT,
> you and she do NOT live in Cally !!!<G>!!
>>
>> Anon
>>
>> *
>>
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Thu Sep 24 21:39:14 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:39:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Iris ???
References: <4ABBF72C.6000507@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <DD83F620C907406789AC44C687EA9E0A@leovs802bt6yj7>

Forgot to add that Iris has ribbed door panel lines, NOS AMCO blue floor 
mas, Hardura on the trans tunnel, and mos important the correct metal MC cap 
and the CORRECT fresh air duct hose:)  Her underside is also much 
prettier... ROFL

Leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sales at " Just Brits "" <sales at justbrits.com>
To: "4 - Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Iris ???


> Hey Leo, why are you selling Iris ???
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120472564983&category=6023&_trksid=p4340.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSI%26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D10%26ps%3D63
>
> or
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/yb3b7eh
>
> Oh WAIT, you and she do NOT live in Cally !!!<G>!!
>
> Anon
>
> *
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From pythias at pacifier.com  Thu Sep 24 21:41:31 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:41:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Iris ???
In-Reply-To: <DD83F620C907406789AC44C687EA9E0A@leovs802bt6yj7>
References: <4ABBF72C.6000507@justbrits.com>
	<DD83F620C907406789AC44C687EA9E0A@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <61271365.20090924204131@pacifier.com>

Hello Leo,

     Iris has a front bumper and license plate that are straight as
     well. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "One of the tires just blew out," Tom said sparingly. (*2)

From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Sep 24 22:45:40 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 21:45:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Iris ???
In-Reply-To: <DD83F620C907406789AC44C687EA9E0A@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <20090925044550.EAF14187677@autox.team.net>

I really liked that it has a 1275 and H1 carbs. Where did you find a metal
MC cap? At least it does have a Sprite badge on bonnet.
		Crash


Forgot to add that Iris has ribbed door panel lines, NOS AMCO blue floor 
mas, Hardura on the trans tunnel, and mos important the correct metal MC cap

and the CORRECT fresh air duct hose:)  Her underside is also much 
prettier... ROFL

Leo

From mhagopian at hoppetool.com  Fri Sep 25 10:30:19 2009
From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:30:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Update and advice on parts
Message-ID: <87a1f55d0909250930x788c440dva04c47559cf4b998@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Its been a while since I have wrote, but heres my update, I bought a
rivergate 5 speed kit with a solid disk clutch and a 5 speed 210 tranny. We
rebuilt the tranny and I am going to start the conversion today.

We also bought competition axles and a limited slip 4.22 rear end (any
recomendations for certain oils?)
I need to purchase a thicker radiator, at least 2" thick. Does anyone know
off hand of a decently priced good radiator?
I also need to purchase double bearing hubs.. I cant find them anywhere
other then winners circle and they dont have a price attached...?
anyone have a good recomendation for a pressure plate to go with the
rivergate 5 speed kit that can handle more then 100hp?

Thanks everyone!

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt Hagopian

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 10:44:47 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:44:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Update and advice on parts
In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0909250930x788c440dva04c47559cf4b998@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87a1f55d0909250930x788c440dva04c47559cf4b998@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909250944s3afcdf9dl963534f66d3633af@mail.gmail.com>

Matt,
Frontline Spridgets in England do a double-bearing hub.
http://www.mgcars.org.uk/frontline/rearsus.htm . I did not say it was
cheap.

As far as oil for the LSD, it would depend on the LSD. I recommend
going to the manufacturer.

The 5-speed is likely to get you barred from a number of racing
venues, at least if you start to win (no one really cares what you
have unless you start winning).

Speedwell engineering have a nice aluminum radiator
speedwellengineering.com/miscpage.html
as does Ron David www.rondavisradiators.com/

You might look into the pressure plate from the Datsun 210. Any decent
machine shop can re-drill your flywheel for it and you can then use
actual Datsun clutch disks. They are a larger diameter than the
Spridget units and offer better clamping. I imagine someone makes  a
competition clutch assembly for the 510 that might fit (no idea
really). I would be looking towards Datsun/Nissan in order to match
the splines of the transmission.
David L

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 25 10:49:56 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:49:56 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Dealer question, absolutely NO LBC
Message-ID: <d3b.4e2d0531.37ee4eb4@aol.com>

I agree and it's another reason why I'll be encouraging my girls to have a  
Spridget.
 
In a message dated 25/09/2009 02:29:35 GMT Daylight Time,  
pythias at pacifier.com writes:

At first  she
hated it because it would only seat two. I find  this a safety
factor. 

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 25 10:53:35 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:53:35 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Update and advice on parts
Message-ID: <beb.4cfd254b.37ee4f8f@aol.com>

Hi Matt,
 
Why are you going to use a solid disc clutch?
 
Mini Mania will have double bearing hubs.  Note that as far as I know  most 
vendors don't sell them with the correct oil seals but supply with a grease 
 seal.
 
With a 100bhp I wonder why you are using a 4.22 diff.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 25/09/2009 17:30:46 GMT Daylight Time,  
mhagopian at hoppetool.com writes:

Hi  all,

Its been a while since I have wrote, but heres my update, I bought  a
rivergate 5 speed kit with a solid disk clutch and a 5 speed 210 tranny.  We
rebuilt the tranny and I am going to start the conversion  today.

We also bought competition axles and a limited slip 4.22 rear  end (any
recomendations for certain oils?)
I need to purchase a thicker  radiator, at least 2" thick. Does anyone know
off hand of a decently priced  good radiator?
I also need to purchase double bearing hubs.. I cant find  them anywhere
other then winners circle and they dont have a price  attached...?
anyone have a good recomendation for a pressure plate to go  with the
rivergate 5 speed kit that can handle more then  100hp?

Thanks everyone!

-- 
Sincerely,


Matt  Hagopian

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 25 10:56:52 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:56:52 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Update and advice on parts
Message-ID: <c00.66401680.37ee5054@aol.com>

But for Spridgets the idea originated in the USA and was introduced into  
the UK by Mini Spares.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 25/09/2009 17:45:14 GMT Daylight Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

Frontline Spridgets in England do a double-bearing  hub.
http://www.mgcars.org.uk/frontline/rearsus.htm . I did not say it  was
cheap.

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 25 12:05:44 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:05:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Manual washer pump nut
Message-ID: <97580F1416DE4159B0A2B897786626DF@HomePC>

I need a retaining nut for a manual w/s washer pump Moss part number 361-160.
This would have been standard on a 1098 Spridget or a 62 - 67 MGB.  It has a
weird thread that seems to be either 27tpi or 0.95 in metric and is about 5/8
diameter.  The pump works great but the cheap plastic nut broke and can't be
matched at the local hardware store.  Anybody have one laying around in their
misc. parts drawer?

Thanks,

Larry

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Sep 25 12:48:51 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:48:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Softtop frame - no political content
Message-ID: <52DA12591DAE41CF992569148B87FD91@Home>

This week, after about 4 months, I finally got around to fitting my new softtop from EZsofttops.com.  There were a number of problems, especially trying to stretch a 44" width to the 45 3/4" header rail.  The rear bow was also out of position for some reason that I could not figure out.  The manufacturer suggested that I take it to a professional for fitting.  

So this morning I took it to my local guy, who said he could probably stretch the width, but there was no way that top could be fitted properly to that frame, primarily because the rear bow is too high and out of position relative to the canvas.  Since there is no adjustment for the rear bow, it is not clear what is wrong.

Giving the benefit of doubt to the manufacturer on dimensions, I don't know how to tell if I have the wrong frame for a '74 Midget or they sent the wrong top for this model.  They say the 44" width is correct.  The replacement frame in the catalogue is the same from '67 through '80. 

Does anyone have any ideas on how to identify the proper frame, particularly measurements for the position of the rear bow relative to the rear deck and the width across the top of the front rail?  Any other suggestions on how to identify the frame.  It looks exactly like the pictures for a Mark III in Horler, including the rear retaining strip (Moss #400-670) which the manufacturer claimed never to have seen before (????).

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 13:08:12 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:08:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Softtop frame - no political content
In-Reply-To: <52DA12591DAE41CF992569148B87FD91@Home>
References: <52DA12591DAE41CF992569148B87FD91@Home>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909251208h579ecbcfjb4500d4ff247329d@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> This week, after about 4 months, I finally got around to fitting my new
softtop from EZsofttops.com.  There were a number of problems, ...
>
> It looks exactly like the pictures for a Mark III in Horler, including the
rear retaining strip (Moss #400-670) which the manufacturer claimed never to
have seen before (????).
>

If the manufacturer has never seen the rear retaining strip there's a
sure bet they've never actually looked at an MG Midget!

That doesn't sound at all like "outstanding customer service" as they
offer on their website.

From sales at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 25 13:32:35 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:32:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Softtop frame - no political content
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909251208h579ecbcfjb4500d4ff247329d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <52DA12591DAE41CF992569148B87FD91@Home>
	<8de85a9c0909251208h579ecbcfjb4500d4ff247329d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ABD1AD3.5040502@justbrits.com>

<< If the manufacturer has never seen the rear retaining strip there's a
sure bet they've never actually looked at an MG Midget! >>

AGREED, Jeff !!

Michael, SEND IT BACK.
It seems (unfortunately) you did NOT get correct hood !!

Even cheap knock-offs should fit right out of the box.

Ed

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 13:32:49 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:32:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
Message-ID: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>

Guess who gets to run the autocross event at the Spridget Celebration
of the Midget 50th Anniversary at Road America? Yup. I didn't duck
fast enough.

So, I figured I should tap into the collective wisdom of the BBS. The
event will be a tiny one-lap race on a fascinating circuit, Road
America's Motorplex
http://www.roadamerica.com/userfiles/image/information_maps/map_motorplex_580w.jpg
The map does not show the elevation changes involved; it WILL be fun!
I might even be able to make it a two-lap course.

At this stage of the game. I am concerned with setting up classes. For
the autocross at the Lake of the Ozarks Sprite 50th, I had a class for
under 1200cc (948 and 1098 engines), a class for over 1200cc (1275 and
1500 engines), a class for non-Spridget engines, a class for Spridgets
with serious mods (forced induction, race tires, Frontline kits, etc),
as well as a class for non-Spridgets. As it ended up, there was one
non-Midget (a Miata who thought he could stomp on us all if we would
only let him run... I let him run and we all stomped on his times),
one non-Spridget engine (a fibreglas-bodied supercharged 13B rotary
Midget with 400hp and huge tires), one under 1200cc (my 1098 Bugeye),
one serious mods (my Midget), and everything else was in the 1200cc
and over class. Not a single 948 ran. The theory was good, but reality
didn't tag along for the ride.

For the 2011 event, I will have to fix things so that it works. It
would be nice if I knew now who was going to sign up, but it doesn't
work that way. I will need to set up classes so that people will want
to sign up for it. I also need to get the awards done ahead of time.

I am thinking that I will need a novice class, a ladies class, and a
non-Spridget class. What do I do with the rest and how should I define
a novice? (no, Frank, you are NOT a novice)
David L

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Sep 25 13:46:47 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:46:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <730183.46328.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Flavio Briatore?



Jay Fishbein

Wallingford, CT

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:


Guess who gets to run the autocross event at the Spridget Celebration
of the Midget 50th Anniversary at Road America? 

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 25 14:08:44 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:08:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200909251308606.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

How about classing them by color?

I haven't painted my car yet.

Peter C
=
At 02:32 PM 9/25/2009, David Lieb wrote:
>Guess who gets to run the autocross event at the Spridget Celebration
>of the Midget 50th Anniversary at Road America? Yup. I didn't duck
>fast enough.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep 25 14:32:07 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:32:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
> I am thinking that I will need a novice class, a ladies class, and a
> non-Spridget class. What do I do with the rest and how should I define
> a novice? (no, Frank, you are NOT a novice)
>   
I'm not? But I was beat by my own son! And he is a novice.

I think you should have a Lady's only class but again what car will they 
be driving.
Tiffany in my Sprite should not be in the same class as Mrs Jones in a 
stock 948.

Classes......
Stock small bore (948 & 1098)
Modified small bore
Stock big bore (1275 & 1500)
Modified big bore
Serious modifications (all bores)
Non A series powdered Spridgets (V8s, rotarys, twin cams, etc)
Other cars, non British, hey, it's not their event.
Lady's stock
Lady's modified

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Fri Sep 25 14:32:10 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:32:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] ..... SU needles
In-Reply-To: <h9j3ob+ic1m@eGroups.com>
References: <h9j3ob+ic1m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <02b901ca3e1f$426230c0$c7269240$@net>

british_roadster_fan [nconklin at sbcglobal.net] wrote:  I recently was
playing with my BT7, rebuilt the carbs, set valves, timing did all the
normal stuff but it would just not idle down correctly.



If anyone wants quality SU parts, they would be best off to go directly to
the source:  the Skinners Union people themselves, now  Burlen Fuel Systems
in Salisbury, England.  Many years ago, they bought out the entire SU
company lot, stock and barrel.  That included not only the NOS, but all of
the tooling as well.  In fact, when I was given a tour of the place, they
had some little old men I would have sworn were hired by old George Herbert
Skinner, himself.   In was like stepping back in time to see them in their
white shirts, neckties and smocks working on the benches, doing the
craftsman-like work that only human hands can give you.  (Burlen is also the
inheritors of the Weber, Zenith, Stromberg, Solex and AMAL companies.)



They offer the SU Catalogue, Workshop Manual, SU Needle Profile Chart and SU
Carburetters Tuning Tips and Techniques.  When I bought mine, it was loaded
with #s off coupons, although I do not know if it is still their practice.
T



When getting my Bugeye ready for the BusterCluster, I took the SUs to
Burlen, and they did a beautiful restoration for a reasonable price.  They
have not leaked a drop of gas or needed any further tuning since.  (Of
course, Franks hernia needed some tuning.)



If anyone is interested, Burlen and SU can be found at:

http://www.burlen.co.uk/

http://www.sucarb.co.uk/



For a fascinating description of their rebuilding of SUs, go to:
http://www.sucarb.co.uk/Restoration.aspx?id=20





From: bugeye at yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugeye at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
british_roadster_fan
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:56 AM
To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... SU needles

Something I just wanted to pass on:

I recently was playing with my BT7, rebuilt the carbs, set valves, timing
did all the normal stuff but it would just not idle down correctly. I double
checked everything, used my multi synch setup good synch equal flow, had the
color perfect with color tune...ran awesome, but again wouldnt idle down. I
pulled the carbs back off...stripped them down and pulled the needles..keep
in mind they are brand new, looked perfect,clearly marked CV....figured had
to be the needles or something in that area of the carbs by the way they
were adjusting so I ordered a new kit and pair of needles from SU. The new
needles arrived clearly stamped CV as well and I compared, the new needles
were just shy of 5/16" longer then the old (new) ones. What a difference,
anyone run into this issue? I have already notified the original supplier
and have him checking his inventory...Nick C.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 25 14:34:28 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:34:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <200909251308606.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <344533.90503.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
utocross Classes
> How about classing them by color?
> 
> I haven't painted my car yet.

I was thinking alphabetically according to age.

Ron

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 25 14:39:04 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:39:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01ED821DEC574BB2A04F2FF64E676FE1@HomePC>

David, how many cars at a time can your system handle?   I like the idea of 
two-lap runs, but that means you can't start a second car at the middle of 
another run.

Have you considered handicapping rather than different classes?  I hope to 
get the Aluminum V-8 stuffed in Carrie's MGB next summer.  I doubt that 
there will be too many of those around.  If Ron brings his race car, that 
will be tough to match up with anything else, too.

Also, a novice class can be set up as a breakout class.  In other words, if 
they beat a predetermined percentage over the regular class ftd, they break 
out and are dumped back in the regular class.  Also, how about nobody with 
race or autocross experience in the last 15 years can even try it.  Yep, 
it's been 16 years for me.  ;-))

LAD

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:32 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes

> Guess who gets to run the autocross event at the Spridget Celebration
> of the Midget 50th Anniversary at Road America? Yup. I didn't duck
> fast enough.
>
> So, I figured I should tap into the collective wisdom of the BBS. The
> event will be a tiny one-lap race on a fascinating circuit, Road
> America's Motorplex
> http://www.roadamerica.com/userfiles/image/information_maps/map_motorplex_580w.jpg
> The map does not show the elevation changes involved; it WILL be fun!
> I might even be able to make it a two-lap course.
>
> At this stage of the game. I am concerned with setting up classes. For
> the autocross at the Lake of the Ozarks Sprite 50th, I had a class for
> under 1200cc (948 and 1098 engines), a class for over 1200cc (1275 and
> 1500 engines), a class for non-Spridget engines, a class for Spridgets
> with serious mods (forced induction, race tires, Frontline kits, etc),
> as well as a class for non-Spridgets. As it ended up, there was one
> non-Midget (a Miata who thought he could stomp on us all if we would
> only let him run... I let him run and we all stomped on his times),
> one non-Spridget engine (a fibreglas-bodied supercharged 13B rotary
> Midget with 400hp and huge tires), one under 1200cc (my 1098 Bugeye),
> one serious mods (my Midget), and everything else was in the 1200cc
> and over class. Not a single 948 ran. The theory was good, but reality
> didn't tag along for the ride.
>
> For the 2011 event, I will have to fix things so that it works. It
> would be nice if I knew now who was going to sign up, but it doesn't
> work that way. I will need to set up classes so that people will want
> to sign up for it. I also need to get the awards done ahead of time.
>
> I am thinking that I will need a novice class, a ladies class, and a
> non-Spridget class. What do I do with the rest and how should I define
> a novice? (no, Frank, you are NOT a novice)
> David L
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Sep 25 14:43:19 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:43:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Softtop frame - no political content
In-Reply-To: <52DA12591DAE41CF992569148B87FD91@Home>
References: <52DA12591DAE41CF992569148B87FD91@Home>
Message-ID: <4ABD2B67.40205@comcast.net>

Michael

I have several top frames, one was yours and it had a top that I put on 
a 69 Sprite, it fit and worked.
But if you think your top frame is bent, I have spares. A bit tough to 
ship but I'm sure we can shuffle it to you.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Sep 25 14:42:32 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:42:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <200909251308606.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909251308606.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <B84F8EE4687C41D69EB13F64C9365449@spider>

Group by tire size.  ...bill in Oregon

===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:09 PM
To: David Lieb; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes

How about classing them by color?

I haven't painted my car yet.

Peter C
=
At 02:32 PM 9/25/2009, David Lieb wrote:
>Guess who gets to run the autocross event at the Spridget Celebration
>of the Midget 50th Anniversary at Road America? Yup. I didn't duck
>fast enough.
_______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Sep 25 14:47:24 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:47:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 03:32 PM 9/25/2009, Frank wrote:
Lady's stock
>Lady's modified
Can I be the scrutineer for these classes?


ED 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 25 14:52:41 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:52:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <01ED821DEC574BB2A04F2FF64E676FE1@HomePC>
Message-ID: <189647.31989.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> too many
of those around.  If Ron brings his race car,
> that will be tough to match up
with anything else, too.

Don't worry - I'm hoping to mooch or use one of my
street cars. It is not set up to autocross at all.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 15:04:37 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:04:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <730183.46328.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<730183.46328.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909251404s56eabd8aw270335e000fa428f@mail.gmail.com>

Good thought, Jay...  I hear he's looking for work....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> Flavio Briatore?
>
>
>
> Jay Fishbein

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 25 15:29:16 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:29:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net>
	<200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4ABD362C.5040808@frontiernet.net>

I hate to disillusion you, but I think he's referring to the cars, NOT 
the drivers.

Kate

Peter Caldwell wrote:
> At 03:32 PM 9/25/2009, Frank wrote:
> Lady's stock
>> Lady's modified
> Can I be the scrutineer for these classes?
>
>
> ED _______________________________________________
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From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Fri Sep 25 15:30:20 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:30:20 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <20090925213020.022F7.715853.root@hrndva-web13-z01>

Central Scrutinizer?

it fits...

Chris
---- Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote: 
> At 03:32 PM 9/25/2009, Frank wrote:
> Lady's stock
> >Lady's modified
> Can I be the scrutineer for these classes?
> 
> 
> ED 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Sep 25 15:37:29 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:37:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net>,
	<200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4ABD3819.20396.DE1F85@kk7ss.verizon.net>

On 25 Sep 2009 at 15:47, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>> >Lady's modified

I think I saw a modified lady on TV last night !!

Hopw about laying out two courses, side by side, mirror image.
You can run two cars at once...
Alternate which track a car runs on (best of two or four runs)

Did that In Alabama once, when we had a boatload of entrants... It 
went well for both drivers and spectators...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 25 15:47:27 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:47:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Runoffs at RA live
Message-ID: <247002.87637.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

www.speedcasttv.com

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 25 15:52:48 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:52:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4ABD362C.5040808@frontiernet.net>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com><4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net><200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4ABD362C.5040808@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4D71F7314B144817A48C2EF392697391@HomePC>

Damn, Kate, why did you have to ruin such a good thought?


After Danica Patrick and women's equality, do we still need to give them a 
hand?  After all, it's driving a car not weight lifting or a foot race where 
the physical differences between the sexes would make a difference.  I would 
think they would find it insulting to be treated like that  by now.


Ducking and covering,

LAD
--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:29 PM
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes

> I hate to disillusion you, but I think he's referring to the cars, NOT the 
> drivers.
>
> Kate
>
> Peter Caldwell wrote:
>> At 03:32 PM 9/25/2009, Frank wrote:
>> Lady's stock
>>> Lady's modified
>> Can I be the scrutineer for these classes?
>>
>>
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 25 15:55:30 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:55:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4ABD3819.20396.DE1F85@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net>,
	<200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4ABD3819.20396.DE1F85@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <78E9679F9BB2421EAC25A42B23FBEBDF@HomePC>

Dave, the course is the motorplex at Road America.  It is already pre laid 
out.  NO chance of doing that, but I did run courses like that years ago, 
too.  Great for running grudge matches between friends.

http://www.roadamerica.com/userfiles/image/information_maps/map_motorplex_580w.jpg



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave G." <kk7ss at verizon.net>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:37 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes

> On 25 Sep 2009 at 15:47, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>>> >Lady's modified
>
> I think I saw a modified lady on TV last night !!
>
> Hopw about laying out two courses, side by side, mirror image.
> You can run two cars at once...
> Alternate which track a car runs on (best of two or four runs)
>
> Did that In Alabama once, when we had a boatload of entrants... It
> went well for both drivers and spectators...
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
>
> Age is just another number... !
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 25 15:59:31 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:59:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Runoffs at RA live
In-Reply-To: <247002.87637.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <247002.87637.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A54D7FB29214A98B0842B433D87227F@HomePC>

Cool!  Thanks, Ron!

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:47 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <team-thicko at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Runoffs at RA live

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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 25 16:13:56 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:13:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4D71F7314B144817A48C2EF392697391@HomePC>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com><4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net><200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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I am one heck of a lot older than Danica Patrick, and I was insulted in 
1963 when someone told me I would have to "race" with the women.

Kate


Larry Daniels wrote:
> Damn, Kate, why did you have to ruin such a good thought?
>
>
> After Danica Patrick and women's equality, do we still need to give 
> them a hand?  After all, it's driving a car not weight lifting or a 
> foot race where the physical differences between the sexes would make 
> a difference.  I would think they would find it insulting to be 
> treated like that  by now.
>
>
> Ducking and covering,
>
> LAD
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 4:29 PM
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
>
>> I hate to disillusion you, but I think he's referring to the cars, 
>> NOT the drivers.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> Peter Caldwell wrote:
>>> At 03:32 PM 9/25/2009, Frank wrote:
>>> Lady's stock
>>>> Lady's modified
>>> Can I be the scrutineer for these classes?
>>>
>>>
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Fri Sep 25 17:19:04 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:19:04 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
Message-ID: <c11.37a265ea.37eea9e8@aol.com>

I believe I'm the only licensed scrutineer on the list!
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 25/09/2009 22:44:01 GMT Daylight Time, cmanuel at wi.rr.com 
 writes:

Central  Scrutinizer?

it fits...

Chris

From sales at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 25 18:00:13 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:00:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <c11.37a265ea.37eea9e8@aol.com>
References: <c11.37a265ea.37eea9e8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4ABD598D.2060400@justbrits.com>

<<I believe I'm the only licensed scrutineer on the list!

 Weslake-Monza 1330  >>

There you go David;  Daniel is the only ONE
got Tech at The 50th !!!

One thing down, and 'some' to go<G>!!!!

Anon

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 25 18:57:53 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:57:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4ABD3819.20396.DE1F85@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net>,
	<200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4ABD3819.20396.DE1F85@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4ABD6711.3050106@frontiernet.net>

ALL ladies on TV are modified.

Kate

Dave G. wrote:
> I think I saw a modified lady on TV last night !!

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Sep 25 19:11:47 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:11:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4ABD6711.3050106@frontiernet.net>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4ABD3819.20396.DE1F85@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<4ABD6711.3050106@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <4ABD6A53.7711.1A250D6@kk7ss.verizon.net>

ROTFLMAO....  

On 25 Sep 2009 at 17:57, Kathryn Bales wrote:

>> ALL ladies on TV are modified.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Sep 25 19:34:37 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:34:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5A093C4F1FC747D1B802246EAC118DE8@HomePC>

Hey, all.  I was just watching the Barrett-Jackson auction where they 
auctioned off a Ford Tri-Motor for $1,100,000.

Regarding the Midget 50th, the Experimental Aircraft Association's museum is 
one hour from the festivities.  They have a Ford Tri-Motor there that flies 
around giving tours constantly.  Would there be any interest in visiting 
that museum during the 50th?

http://www.eaa.org/museum/

I can arrange a group tour at a discount rate including a box lunch, etc., 
if you would like to see it.  So... what do you think?  Should we put it on 
the agenda?

LAD 

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Sep 25 20:08:53 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:08:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <667D139C03534FCB99B21782A76384EF@leovs802bt6yj7>

Will  the course be well marked?  Are there bigger (i.e. taller) cones 
available??  I am sure this willelicit some remarks.  I just might have the 
other car to a stage I can bring it maybe .....

Leo 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 25 20:29:24 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:29:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <667D139C03534FCB99B21782A76384EF@leovs802bt6yj7>
Message-ID: <958461.92370.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 9/25/09, Leo S <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:
> Will  the course
be well
> marked?  Are there bigger (i.e. taller) cones
> available??  I am
sure this willelicit some

Leo,
Larry has talked with the Elkhart Lake police,
and we'll be using Stun Guns manned by corner workers to ensure the correct
routes are taken. Don't laugh - this has been Team White Trash's secret to my
reduction in lap times.

Ron

From sales at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 25 20:37:44 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:37:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <5A093C4F1FC747D1B802246EAC118DE8@HomePC>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<5A093C4F1FC747D1B802246EAC118DE8@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4ABD7E78.9060806@justbrits.com>

<< Should we put it on the agenda? >>

Larry, GREAT idea !!!

For those who aren't so 'much' of a plane lover,
it is still something NOT to be missed !!!

I HAVE been not only to the museum by have
attended the show LAD talks about every year.
Absolutely UN-believable !!  And if you ever can
squeeze the show into your summer, GO to it !!!!

Larry, it would also make a GREAT 'caravan'<VBG>,
ya think ???

Me

From sales at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 25 20:42:24 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:42:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4D71F7314B144817A48C2EF392697391@HomePC>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com><4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net><200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4ABD362C.5040808@frontiernet.net>
	<4D71F7314B144817A48C2EF392697391@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4ABD7F90.3090305@justbrits.com>

Larry, do you know Big Healey lovers/Owners Sue &
Leroy Joppa ??

Several years ago and on the completion of her BJ-8
resto she REFUSED to run in "ladies" classes and
REGULARLY beats the pants off the 'men' in class.
Maybe, NORMALLY would be a better word<VBG> !!!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 20:48:36 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:48:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ..... SU needles
In-Reply-To: <02b901ca3e1f$426230c0$c7269240$@net>
References: <h9j3ob+ic1m@eGroups.com>
  <02b901ca3e1f$426230c0$c7269240$@net>
Message-ID: <402188520909251948t778c33f3s6d5bf8b69725e5a@mail.gmail.com>

> If anyone wants quality SU parts, they would be best off to go directly to
> the source:  the Skinners Union people themselves, now  Burlen Fuel Systems
> in Salisbury, England.

OTOH, it is generally quicker to contact our own Peter Caldwell and
ask for the genuine SU parts.
David L

From neilandcustom at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 20:56:47 2009
From: neilandcustom at gmail.com (Neil Anderson)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:56:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4ABD7F90.3090305@justbrits.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com><4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net><200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4ABD362C.5040808@frontiernet.net>
	<4D71F7314B144817A48C2EF392697391@HomePC>
	<4ABD7F90.3090305@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <000001ca3e54$fecf8bb0$fc6ea310$@com>

So, David, what class would this one run in???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270459794418 

Somebody wants it, it has 5 bids.

Whew, I am running away.............

Neil Anderson
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From sales at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 25 21:09:03 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:09:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ..... SU needles
In-Reply-To: <402188520909251948t778c33f3s6d5bf8b69725e5a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <h9j3ob+ic1m@eGroups.com> <02b901ca3e1f$426230c0$c7269240$@net>
	<402188520909251948t778c33f3s6d5bf8b69725e5a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ABD85CF.1090809@justbrits.com>

<<OTOH, it is generally quicker to contact our own Peter Caldwell
and ask for the genuine SU parts.>>

Or me, David.

<G>

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Fri Sep 25 21:32:39 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:32:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4ABD7F90.3090305@justbrits.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com><4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net><200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4ABD362C.5040808@frontiernet.net>
	<4D71F7314B144817A48C2EF392697391@HomePC>
	<4ABD7F90.3090305@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4ABD8B57.6010207@frontiernet.net>

And your point is???????????

Kate

Sales at " Just Brits " wrote:
> Larry, do you know Big Healey lovers/Owners Sue &
> Leroy Joppa ??
>
> Several years ago and on the completion of her BJ-8
> resto she REFUSED to run in "ladies" classes and
> REGULARLY beats the pants off the 'men' in class.
> Maybe, NORMALLY would be a better word<VBG> !!!
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 21:48:31 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:48:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <4ABD7F90.3090305@justbrits.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net>
	<200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4ABD362C.5040808@frontiernet.net>
	<4D71F7314B144817A48C2EF392697391@HomePC>
	<4ABD7F90.3090305@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909252048n2f999cc7x44a0a5ca13391aee@mail.gmail.com>

Daniel,
Are you licensed in the USA? ;-)

Frank,
That is almost the list of classes from LotO. Think you can get a 948
to sign up?

What I would like to avoid is having 75% of the cars in one class and
having a bunch of classes with 0 or 1 car in them. NO 948 engines
signed up for the LotO autocross.

I rather like Trevor's suggestion of a checklist of mods with points
assigned to each. Your total would determine your class.

Tires under 140 treadwear = 2 points each
Aftermarket cam = 2 points
Header = 2 points
Non-stock front ARB = 1 point
Rims wider than 4.5" = 1 point per inch of additional width
Displacement over 1200cc = 3 points
Total novice = -3 points
etc.

A class for under 3 points, a class for under 10 points, etc. I can
guarantee my Midget will land in the top class. As you say, Trevor,
that just means less competition ;-)
Ladies class would, of course, be voluntary, but we might have to
assign points for lady drivers,judging by their LotO results ;-)

Larry,
I have never had more than three cars on the track at once with this
system... well maybe it was four. It handles that well, but it gets to
be hard on the operator, especially when someone screws up. It can
also handle having each car trigger the start and/or the finish light
multiple times. With a group of people like this, it is generally best
not to have multiple cars on track at one time.

Bill,
Thanks for volunteering!

Neal,
I would have to think that we could run that one in the novice class
and still not worry about having to give it an award. Might do better
at the car show ;-)
David L

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Sep 25 22:01:21 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:01:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] funny political content
Message-ID: <A41034578CA24973A8F7672A65B46D91@leovs802bt6yj7>

                                A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was
lost.

                                She lowered her altitude and spotted a man in
a boat below.

                                She shouted to him, "Excuse me, can you help
me?

                                I promised a friend I would meet him an hour
ago, but I don't know where I am."


                                The man consulted his portable GPS and
replied, "You're in a hot air balloon, approximately 30 feet above a ground
elevation of 2,346 feet above sea level. You are at 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes
north latitude and 00 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude.

                                "She rolled her eyes and said, "You must be a
Republican."
                                "I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"

                                "Well," answered the balloonist, "everything
you told me is technically correct. But I have no idea what to do with your
information, and I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help to me."

                                The man smiled and responded, "You must be an
Obama Democrat."

                                "I am," replied the balloonist. "How did you
know?"
                                "Well," said the man, "you don't know where
you are or where you are going. You've risen to where you are, due to a large
quantity of hot air. You made a promise you have no idea how to keep, and you
expect me to solve your problem. You're in exactly the same position you were
in before we met, but somehow, now it's my fault."
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Fri Sep 25 22:03:41 2009
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 23:03:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <5A093C4F1FC747D1B802246EAC118DE8@HomePC>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<5A093C4F1FC747D1B802246EAC118DE8@HomePC>
Message-ID: <4ABD929D.5080508@wi.net>

Larry,

I'll go!  I worked on that Tri-Motor when we rebuilt the B-25 down here 
in Burlington.  June 16th, 1973 we had extremely high winds that flipped 
the Ford on its back and we spent the next year replacing ribs and 
re-skinning. (It also our wedding day which is why I remember the day.)  
The museum is not to be missed if you have the faintest regard for aviation.

Good suggestion,
Dave W.




Larry Daniels wrote:
> Hey, all.  I was just watching the Barrett-Jackson auction where they 
> auctioned off a Ford Tri-Motor for $1,100,000.
>
> Regarding the Midget 50th, the Experimental Aircraft Association's 
> museum is one hour from the festivities.  They have a Ford Tri-Motor 
> there that flies around giving tours constantly.  Would there be any 
> interest in visiting that museum during the 50th?
>
> http://www.eaa.org/museum/
>
> I can arrange a group tour at a discount rate including a box lunch, 
> etc., if you would like to see it.  So... what do you think?  Should 
> we put it on the agenda?
>
> LAD _______________________________________________

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 26 01:21:53 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 00:21:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] California Ammunition Restrictions
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909251833p5496868cx3018c891b2bf3552@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY116-DAV9384058400553292687BFD4D90@phx.gbl>	
	<h9jlk5+l8h8@eGroups.com>
	<43840a7e0909251833p5496868cx3018c891b2bf3552@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010e01ca3e7a$062942a0$127bc7e0$@net>

Rod S. wrote:  "How many times do you hear of a tragic accidental death?"

Jim Johnson wrote:  "Any accidental death is tragic, but the numbers simply
do not bear out your pre-conceived desires."

 

It is curious how some will omit statistics that do not support their
pre-conceived ideas.  In few political areas does the connection between the
current health care debate, together with the arguments over gun ownership,
show how vividly some will use "statistics" to falsely base their arguments.

 

Proponents of "change" in health care often cite the fact that the U.N. and
the World Health Organization assert that the money spent on health care,
the U.S. ranks way down the list when it comes to life expectancy.  However,
what they fail to reveal is that this is the *overall* life expectancy
resulting from ALL types of death, both natural and unnatural (e.g.
homicide, suicide and motor vehicle accidents.)  When comparing *only*
natural deaths, the United States leads the world in life expectancy at 76.9
years (Norway is second with 76.3 years), thus supporting a higher quality
of health care for Americans.

 

The "unnatural life expectancy" data is skewed by homicides in America, the
most rampant being murder among black males and females.   The National
Center for Health Statistics has found that homicides account for 6.1 deaths
per 100,000 among white males, but an astounding 42.1 deaths per 100,000
among black males.  For white females, it was only 2.2 compared to 8.6 for
black females.

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep 26 05:26:07 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:26:07 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Update and advice on parts
Message-ID: <d5a.51c22d62.37ef544f@aol.com>

Weslake not Westlake!
 
I have a Ford gearbox and clutch.
 
If the car is going to be used on the road and in traffic I'd think about a 
 different clutch.  If the car is just going to be used in motorsport the  
solid plate clutch would be ok.
 
A 4.5 diff at 7,500 rpm should be 110mph on 13" x 70 profile tyres so your  
92mph sounds a bit low for 7,000rpm.
 
You want the car geared such that the estimated maximum speed occurs at the 
 peak power of the engine.  So you need to know if peak power is at  
7000rpm.  If your cam is the SPVP4 from APT then it might peak at  7000rpm though 
I'd guess a bit less.
 
120mph is a lot to expect of a Spridget and is a lot more to expect than  
118mph.  You'll need a car with some reasonable aero mods to achieve  120mph.
 
You'll not easily get 150bhp from a normally aspirated A-series and almost  
certainly not with cam you have.  And if you swap the cam to say the SPVP5  
it will need regular rebuilds to continue to achieve that power assuming 
you can  get it to produce that in the first place.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 26/09/2009 04:24:42 GMT Daylight Time,  
mhagopian at hoppetool.com writes:

Paul- haha no problem! I was wondering who you were talking to?!

Westlake- I already bought the rivergate kit... it was supplied with  a 
"race" clutch solid disc with no springs, very small I would say probably 6"  
in dia.. I said 100hp because I was told that was the "break" point.. I want  
to build a motor closer to 150hp, could i have a few more details on your  
conversion please?
 
The motor I am using now is very strong and I am not sure the actual hp..  
I ran a 4.55 and a 4spd ribcase and the gears were very close(reving to 7k)  
and the top speed worked out to be around 92mph.. I am running at the glen 
and  am trying to make it to 120mph at 7000 rpm with the 5 speed. I was 
actually  planning on selling my locked 4.22 and open 4.55 and buy a locked 3.9 
or a  locked 4.55, I run at mostly long tracks. I ran New Jersey Motorsports 
Park  last Sept and spent the entire front straight at the rev limiter and 
the back  straight hit it for about 5 seconds. Unfortunately I dont know the 
exact power  my motor puts out... I asked for help because I bought from 
Bud Pazur and he  was unsure about the power and about rev limit.. Heres what 
I know..  scatterpattern cam type 4 i think its spvr4 or something? 12.5:1 
pistons .040"  over and a lot of extensive head work has been done.
 
David- The LSD is a Tran-X diff 4.22, I hope I end up in the front of the  
races I enter but chances are not considering I have only driven the car  
once.. but finished 7th! I know they sell a 5th gear lock out for competition  
use.. If I start winning and get bagged for it I could use this! Thanks for 
 the heads up!
 
 
Thanks for all of the advice guys I will check everything out.. Im still  
new to all of this!
 
Reply |Matt Hagopian to Paul 
show details 11:11 PM (0 minutes ago)  
Oooops-!
Meant to call you Matt, NOT David!

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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep 26 05:28:40 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:28:40 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
Message-ID: <c0b.66191c81.37ef54e8@aol.com>

Nope!  I don't know how it works in the USA but in the UK the issues  are 
around insurance as well as licence grades.  I'd guess that if the  event was 
fully legal etc then I could work as a trainee!  I could look  into how 
this works if I knew exactly what the status of the event was  etc.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 26/09/2009 04:58:41 GMT Daylight Time,  
72spridget at gmail.com writes:

Daniel,
Are you licensed in the USA? ;-)

Frank,
That is  almost the list of classes from LotO. Think you can get a 948
to sign  up?

What I would like to avoid is having 75% of the cars in one class  and
having a bunch of classes with 0 or 1 car in them. NO 948  engines
signed up for the LotO autocross.

I rather like Trevor's  suggestion of a checklist of mods with points
assigned to each. Your total  would determine your class.

Tires under 140 treadwear = 2 points  each
Aftermarket cam = 2 points
Header = 2 points
Non-stock front ARB  = 1 point
Rims wider than 4.5" = 1 point per inch of additional  width
Displacement over 1200cc = 3 points
Total novice = -3  points
etc.

A class for under 3 points, a class for under 10 points,  etc. I can
guarantee my Midget will land in the top class. As you say,  Trevor,
that just means less competition ;-)
Ladies class would, of  course, be voluntary, but we might have to
assign points for lady  drivers,judging by their LotO results ;-)

Larry,
I have never had  more than three cars on the track at once with this
system... well maybe it  was four. It handles that well, but it gets to
be hard on the operator,  especially when someone screws up. It can
also handle having each car  trigger the start and/or the finish light
multiple times. With a group of  people like this, it is generally best
not to have multiple cars on track  at one time.

Bill,
Thanks for volunteering!

Neal,
I would  have to think that we could run that one in the novice class
and still not  worry about having to give it an award. Might do better
at the car show  ;-)
David L

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 06:08:45 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:08:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909260508t757a91c5w6fc365132314389f@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone know who the winner is and where do we find reading material on this
beauty? I'd love to read more about the mechanicals and the body fabrication
history as well as where she has been all these years. I have never seen a
Sprite have bidding of 163 bids even though there were just 20 bidders. And
cool  winning bid too : )
Lin

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:

> Item number:  300348776161
>
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From wmseverin at charter.net  Sat Sep 26 06:10:16 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:10:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <000001ca3e54$fecf8bb0$fc6ea310$@com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com><4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net><200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4ABD362C.5040808@frontiernet.net>
	<4D71F7314B144817A48C2EF392697391@HomePC>
	<4ABD7F90.3090305@justbrits.com> <000001ca3e54$fecf8bb0$fc6ea310$@com>
Message-ID: <004f01ca3ea2$4f2b9200$ed82b600$@net>

Left rear tire looks a little low... I'd better not bid.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Neil Anderson
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 9:57 PM
> To: sales at justbrits.com
> Cc: 'Spridgets'
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
> 
> So, David, what class would this one run in???
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270459794
> 418
> 
> Somebody wants it, it has 5 bids.
> 
> Whew, I am running away.............
> 
> Neil Anderson

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 06:14:26 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:14:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Sprite with copy paint scheme why not
 #66?........330361731264
Message-ID: <205cef430909260514m133379a6hdf7a4ebe59587692@mail.gmail.com>

List
I don't know if this is the original owner as this little Sprite was listed
on eBay months ago #330361731264 link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Austin-Heally-Sprite-Fully-restored-Low-reserve_W0QQitemZ330361731264QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ceb17f8c0&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

But I just don't understand why he didn't put #66 on it as we all know who's
color scheme this belongs to........hint hint...
http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=59-Austin-Healey-Sprite

Lin

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 26 06:20:30 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 07:20:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] California Ammunition Restrictions
In-Reply-To: <010e01ca3e7a$062942a0$127bc7e0$@net>
References: <BAY116-DAV9384058400553292687BFD4D90@phx.gbl>
	<h9jlk5+l8h8@eGroups.com><43840a7e0909251833p5496868cx3018c891b2bf3552@mail.gmail.com>
	<010e01ca3e7a$062942a0$127bc7e0$@net>
Message-ID: <9892A93BA9AE43A7B9EDD1E783F76C8D@HomePC>

As you said, Buster, "It is curious how some will omit statistics that do 
not support their pre-conceived ideas. "  I noticed that you failed to 
mention that the U.S. ranks 29th in infant mortality rates -- a major factor 
in ranking a countries health.  Also note that a countries health ranking 
takes in all health conditions not just mortality rates.  Just because a lot 
of people are alive doesn't mean they are in good health.

The last time the WHO ranked the worlds health systems, we were at a solid 
37th.  Statistically speaking, of course.  ;-))

Funny you didn't mention that.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Robert Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:21 AM
To: <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] California Ammunition Restrictions

> Rod S. wrote:  "How many times do you hear of a tragic accidental death?"
>
> Jim Johnson wrote:  "Any accidental death is tragic, but the numbers 
> simply
> do not bear out your pre-conceived desires."
>
>
>
> It is curious how some will omit statistics that do not support their
> pre-conceived ideas.  In few political areas does the connection between 
> the
> current health care debate, together with the arguments over gun 
> ownership,
> show how vividly some will use "statistics" to falsely base their 
> arguments.
>
>
>
> Proponents of "change" in health care often cite the fact that the U.N. 
> and
> the World Health Organization assert that the money spent on health care,
> the U.S. ranks way down the list when it comes to life expectancy. 
> However,
> what they fail to reveal is that this is the *overall* life expectancy
> resulting from ALL types of death, both natural and unnatural (e.g.
> homicide, suicide and motor vehicle accidents.)  When comparing *only*
> natural deaths, the United States leads the world in life expectancy at 
> 76.9
> years (Norway is second with 76.3 years), thus supporting a higher quality
> of health care for Americans.
>
>
>
> The "unnatural life expectancy" data is skewed by homicides in America, 
> the
> most rampant being murder among black males and females.   The National
> Center for Health Statistics has found that homicides account for 6.1 
> deaths
> per 100,000 among white males, but an astounding 42.1 deaths per 100,000
> among black males.  For white females, it was only 2.2 compared to 8.6 for
> black females.

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 26 06:24:05 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 05:24:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Sprite with copy paint scheme why not
 #66?........330361731264
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909260514m133379a6hdf7a4ebe59587692@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430909260514m133379a6hdf7a4ebe59587692@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3AE88725AAEE4D4BA0A74508846105DF@spider>

66 was my number with SCCA back in 1967-69. Not a Sprite though. ...bill in
oregon

========================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:14 AM
To: Spridget list
Subject: [Spridgets] eBay Sprite with copy paint scheme why not
#66?........330361731264

 

List

I don't know if this is the original owner as this little Sprite was listed

on eBay months ago #330361731264 link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1966-Austin-Heally-Sprite-Fully-restored-Low-
reserve_W0QQitemZ330361731264QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ceb
17f8c0&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

 

But I just don't understand why he didn't put #66 on it as we all know who's

color scheme this belongs to........hint hint...

http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=59-Austin-Hea
ley-Sprite

 

Lin

_______________________________________________

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 26 07:22:28 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:22:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <5A093C4F1FC747D1B802246EAC118DE8@HomePC>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<5A093C4F1FC747D1B802246EAC118DE8@HomePC>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W57F6331AB8C2F610DD706ECAD80@phx.gbl>

You can definitely count me in for a run to Oshkosh!! I have been wanting to
get there for about 40 years!!
BillM

> From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:34:37 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
>
> Hey, all.  I was just watching the Barrett-Jackson auction where they
> auctioned off a Ford Tri-Motor for $1,100,000.
>
> Regarding the Midget 50th, the Experimental Aircraft Association's museum is
> one hour from the festivities.  They have a Ford Tri-Motor there that flies
> around giving tours constantly.  Would there be any interest in visiting
> that museum during the 50th?
>
> http://www.eaa.org/museum/
>
> I can arrange a group tour at a discount rate including a box lunch, etc.,
> if you would like to see it.  So... what do you think?  Should we put it on
> the agenda?
>
> LAD
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Sat Sep 26 07:23:15 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:23:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909260508t757a91c5w6fc365132314389f@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430909260508t757a91c5w6fc365132314389f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8405ti$6tqqll@email.mtu.edu>

The person who sold the Sebring Sprite must be an interesting 
person.  Now look what he has for sale. Item # 300350818169  I wonder 
what other interesting items he has stashed away??


At 08:08 AM 9/26/2009, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>Anyone know who the winner is and where do we find reading material on this
>beauty?

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 07:46:49 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:46:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
In-Reply-To: <8405ti$6tqqll@email.mtu.edu>
References: <8de85a9c0909180713y6eda9325n336452dec5c43a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430909260508t757a91c5w6fc365132314389f@mail.gmail.com>
	<8405ti$6tqqll@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <402188520909260646x1d4492d4h9fbb18ad5c7a4568@mail.gmail.com>

> The person who sold the Sebring Sprite must be an interesting person.  Now
> look what he has for sale. Item # 300350818169  I wonder what other
> interesting items he has stashed away??

Well, he was also trying to sell a "1973 Mini Cooper" that was built
in the 90's ;-) Did not meet reserve. 300349503641
Another venue I frequent found a dispatch saying that he was going
through a messy divorce, hence divesting himself of most of his
collections.
Too bad.
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 08:04:44 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:04:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <c0b.66191c81.37ef54e8@aol.com>
References: <c0b.66191c81.37ef54e8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909260704p1f63c9c4p10da00d14c83816f@mail.gmail.com>

> Nope!  I don't know how it works in the USA but in the UK the issues are
> around insurance as well as licence grades.  I'd guess that if the event
was
> fully legal etc then I could work as a trainee!  I could look into how this
> works if I knew exactly what the status of the event was etc.

It is not a "sanctioned" event, Daniel. As it will not be
wheel-to-wheel, there are fewer scrutineering issues. No need to pump
engines, measure cam lift, etc. Primary concerns are brakes, wheels,
tires, and leakage.
David L

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 09:16:23 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 08:16:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ABD28C7.8030703@comcast.net>
	<200909251347230.SM01496@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <441250190909260816q156ba8c8xa3ebb366e54b6a10@mail.gmail.com>

Be my guest.  Out here "Lady's modified" usually means a guy in a dress.
They look good, just don't look to close [?]

-g

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> At 03:32 PM 9/25/2009, Frank wrote:
> Lady's stock
>
>> Lady's modified
>>
> Can I be the scrutineer for these classes?
>
>
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From twobees at sprynet.com  Sat Sep 26 09:39:50 2009
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 11:39:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <001701ca3ebf$9627b220$6401a8c0@normoffice>

"Anyone know who the winner is and where do we find reading material on this
beauty? I'd love to read more about the mechanicals and the body fabrication
history as well as where she has been all these years. I have never seen a
Sprite have bidding of 163 bids even though there were just 20 bidders. And
cool winning bid too : ) Lin"

As noted, the Sept. 2005 issue of Vintage Racecar covered a sister car quite
extensively.  Available at:
<http://vintageracecar.com/pages/store.cgi?mrchcatid=4>
http://vintageracecar.com/pages/store.cgi?mrchcatid=4

Norm Sippel

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep 26 10:06:32 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:06:32 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Softtop frame - no political content
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV14AC322F999B842C10012C8D80@phx.gbl>

Suggest you return the top for credit. Go elsewhere for the right/correctly produced product.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Rowe
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:48 PM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Cc: Denise
Subject: [Spridgets] Softtop frame - no political content

This week, after about 4 months, I finally got around to fitting my new softtop from EZsofttops.com.  There were a number of problems, especially trying to stretch a 44" width to the 45 3/4" header rail.  The rear bow was also out of position for some reason that I could not figure out.  The manufacturer suggested that I take it to a professional for fitting.  

So this morning I took it to my local guy, who said he could probably stretch the width, but there was no way that top could be fitted properly to that frame, primarily because the rear bow is too high and out of position relative to the canvas.  Since there is no adjustment for the rear bow, it is not clear what is wrong.

Giving the benefit of doubt to the manufacturer on dimensions, I don't know how to tell if I have the wrong frame for a '74 Midget or they sent the wrong top for this model.  They say the 44" width is correct.  The replacement frame in the catalogue is the same from '67 through '80. 

Does anyone have any ideas on how to identify the proper frame, particularly measurements for the position of the rear bow relative to the rear deck and the width across the top of the front rail?  Any other suggestions on how to identify the frame.  It looks exactly like the pictures for a Mark III in Horler, including the rear retaining strip (Moss #400-670) which the manufacturer claimed never to have seen before (????).

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep 26 10:18:04 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:18:04 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV10B9D4696CB3E94640227CC8D80@phx.gbl>

Too much "squeeze down" of inbound airflow....high airflow "drag" numbers accordingly. I forget the exact name of this
type of "drag", but this effect also makes for less accuracy in metering with respect to progression, jets, etc.

Basically, too much carb for the application.

Anything below 34mm chokes, better all-around flow velocities, etc. with the smaller
40. 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:56 PM
To: breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

If you choke a 45 down to a 32 choke it generally flows less and doesn't  
perform as well as 40 in the same size.  That of course begs the question  
why it's possible to choke down if it's a bad idea - I don't have an  answer.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 23/09/2009 21:23:24 GMT Daylight Time, breton48 at live.com 
 writes:

They  don't stock the OER
in anything smaller than 45, and the minimum venturi  size is 32
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 10:19:09 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:19:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] California Ammunition Restrictions
In-Reply-To: <9892A93BA9AE43A7B9EDD1E783F76C8D@HomePC>
References: <BAY116-DAV9384058400553292687BFD4D90@phx.gbl>
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Larry,

That is true, but my OB GYN nurse daughter would quickly correct you. The
vast majority of the infant deaths are due not to lack of health care but
instead occur shortly after birth due to congenital defects in the baby
caused by the mother's neglect of her own health (smoking, drugs...etc.).
YOU forgot to include THAT fact in your numbers.

Look...  this sort of thing is precisely the reason we should be having in
depth discussions about things like this. Mark Twain said: "There are lies,
damned lies, and statistics!"  When we evaluate something based upon the
studies done on it, we need to also include all the caveats involved in the
studies and all the facets that we haven't adequately studied. Hardly anyone
does that outside the realm of peer reviewed science these days and that is
the reason we have some pretty stupid laws on the books.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> As you said, Buster, "It is curious how some will omit statistics that do
> not support their pre-conceived ideas. "  I noticed that you failed to
> mention that the U.S. ranks 29th in infant mortality rates -- a major
factor
> in ranking a countries health.  Also note that a countries health ranking
> takes in all health conditions not just mortality rates.  Just because a
lot
> of people are alive doesn't mean they are in good health.
>
> The last time the WHO ranked the worlds health systems, we were at a solid
> 37th.  Statistically speaking, of course.  ;-))
>
> Funny you didn't mention that.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Robert Evans" <b-evans at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:21 AM
> To: <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] California Ammunition Restrictions
>
>
>  Rod S. wrote:  "How many times do you hear of a tragic accidental death?"
>>
>> Jim Johnson wrote:  "Any accidental death is tragic, but the numbers
>> simply
>> do not bear out your pre-conceived desires."
>>
>>
>>
>> It is curious how some will omit statistics that do not support their
>> pre-conceived ideas.  In few political areas does the connection between
>> the
>> current health care debate, together with the arguments over gun
>> ownership,
>> show how vividly some will use "statistics" to falsely base their
>> arguments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Proponents of "change" in health care often cite the fact that the U.N.
>> and
>> the World Health Organization assert that the money spent on health care,
>> the U.S. ranks way down the list when it comes to life expectancy.
>> However,
>> what they fail to reveal is that this is the *overall* life expectancy
>> resulting from ALL types of death, both natural and unnatural (e.g.
>> homicide, suicide and motor vehicle accidents.)  When comparing *only*
>> natural deaths, the United States leads the world in life expectancy at
>> 76.9
>> years (Norway is second with 76.3 years), thus supporting a higher quality
>> of health care for Americans.
>>
>>
>>
>> The "unnatural life expectancy" data is skewed by homicides in America,
>> the
>> most rampant being murder among black males and females.   The National
>> Center for Health Statistics has found that homicides account for 6.1
>> deaths
>> per 100,000 among white males, but an astounding 42.1 deaths per 100,000
>> among black males.  For white females, it was only 2.2 compared to 8.6 for
>> black females.
>>
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep 26 10:27:42 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:27:42 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV2ADF71FAF3B78690C1718C8D80@phx.gbl>

Measurement of "Squeezedown" of airflow causing excessive "drag"..... 

I just remembered...."Reynolds Numbers"!!!?
 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:18 PM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com, breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

Too much "squeeze down" of inbound airflow....high airflow "drag" numbers accordingly. I forget the exact name of this
type of "drag", but this effect also makes for less accuracy in metering with respect to progression, jets, etc.

Basically, too much carb for the application.

Anything below 34mm chokes, better all-around flow velocities, etc. with the smaller
40. 

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:56 PM
To: breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

If you choke a 45 down to a 32 choke it generally flows less and doesn't  
perform as well as 40 in the same size.  That of course begs the question  
why it's possible to choke down if it's a bad idea - I don't have an  answer.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 23/09/2009 21:23:24 GMT Daylight Time, breton48 at live.com 
 writes:

They  don't stock the OER
in anything smaller than 45, and the minimum venturi  size is 32
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 26 10:35:51 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:35:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (Fwd) Automatic rough...
Message-ID: <4ABE42E7.2966.740926@kk7ss.verizon.net>

When I was flying single engine planes over water or desert, there 
was
a phenomena known as "automatic rough" --- in the middle of nowhere
the engine would seem to start running rough... makes you sweat!

Has anybody else, besides me, noticed this same effect when driving
their spridget where there are long stretches between towns??

Just thought I'd ask....

--
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'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !




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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 10:51:54 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 09:51:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (Fwd) Automatic rough...
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Dave,

I think this phenomenon covers a broad spectrum of machines.  I have it when
I ride my antique motorcycles or even the veteran ones. I have it with the
Midget. I had it that past 2 years with the old lawnmower until it finally
shot craps last week. I have it working on important documents on an older
computer. I used to have it the very few times I found myself leading a race
with either the car or the bike.....    I never heard the phrase "automatic
rough" but I like it!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> When I was flying single engine planes over water or desert, there
> was
> a phenomena known as "automatic rough" --- in the middle of nowhere
> the engine would seem to start running rough... makes you sweat!
>
> Has anybody else, besides me, noticed this same effect when driving
> their spridget where there are long stretches between towns??
>
> Just thought I'd ask....
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
>
> Age is just another number... !
>
>
>
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 11:18:13 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:18:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV2ADF71FAF3B78690C1718C8D80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <448780.75472.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

No.

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net> wrote:

From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com, breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 11:27 AM

Measurement of "Squeezedown" of airflow causing excessive "drag".....

I just remembered...."Reynolds Numbers"!!!?


Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:18 PM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com, breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

Too much "squeeze down" of inbound airflow....high airflow "drag" numbers
accordingly. I forget the exact name of this
type of "drag", but this effect also makes for less accuracy in metering with
respect to progression, jets, etc.

Basically, too much carb for the application.

Anything below 34mm chokes, better all-around flow velocities, etc. with the
smaller
40.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:56 PM
To: breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

If you choke a 45 down to a 32 choke it generally flows less and doesn't 
perform as well as 40 in the same size.  That of course begs the question 
why it's possible to choke down if it's a bad idea - I don't have an  answer.

Weslake-Monza 1330

In a message dated 23/09/2009 21:23:24 GMT Daylight Time, breton48 at live.com
 writes:

They  don't stock the OER
in anything smaller than 45, and the minimum venturi  size is 32
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Sat Sep 26 11:39:23 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:39:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] California Ammunition Restrictions
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909260919o4498655dne64d6153e3a254fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56853.78486.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I found the in-depth discussions at the town hall meetings very productive.

But seriously, it is sad that our healthcare system results in people dying
because they can't afford treatment and others going bankrupt due to medical
crises.

And rather than work toward a solution, it has devolved into a political game
at the highest and lowest levels.

Unfortunately, the U.S. has hte best healthcare only for those who can afford
it. Equal heathcare should be a right, not a privilege.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:


Look...  this sort of thing is precisely the reason we should be having in
depth discussions about things like this.

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 11:44:09 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:44:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] (Fwd) Automatic rough...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909260951h1b0244b3t71c87581307f6f48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4ABE42E7.2966.740926@kk7ss.verizon.net>
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Message-ID: <e98d88090909261044l27ef42bbv894e82a41491dc57@mail.gmail.com>

I had that on my GTO, back when it was my daily driver. Drove me nuts. It
would be cruising along just fine, but out of nowhere, it would sputter and
stumble. Just for about 4 seconds, but enough to be annoying.
Now I know what it was....
Except, my GTO is a standard, not an automatic.

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I think this phenomenon covers a broad spectrum of machines.  I have it
> when
> I ride my antique motorcycles or even the veteran ones. I have it with the
> Midget. I had it that past 2 years with the old lawnmower until it finally
> shot craps last week. I have it working on important documents on an older
> computer. I used to have it the very few times I found myself leading a
> race
> with either the car or the bike.....    I never heard the phrase "automatic
> rough" but I like it!!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > When I was flying single engine planes over water or desert, there
> > was
> > a phenomena known as "automatic rough" --- in the middle of nowhere
> > the engine would seem to start running rough... makes you sweat!
> >
> > Has anybody else, besides me, noticed this same effect when driving
> > their spridget where there are long stretches between towns??
> >
> > Just thought I'd ask....
> >
> > --
> > Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
> > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> > '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> > '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
> >
> > Age is just another number... !
> >
> >
> >
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep 26 13:04:44 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:04:44 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC-Healthcare
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV2E872AEF0DEA8DC704CE3C8D80@phx.gbl>

Same thing happens in nations with National Health Care schemes due to  "rationing"....even with 40%+ income tax rates...plus VAT & other taxes.....

....except apparently in Switzerland and (I think) one of the Scandinavian nations where, in each case, taxes are high enough to fully fund the system and an adequate/
reasonable doctor/patient ratio exists.

No doubt about it. It's a worldwide problem, system notwithstanding.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Fishbein
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:39 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] California Ammunition Restrictions

I found the in-depth discussions at the town hall meetings very productive.

But seriously, it is sad that our healthcare system results in people dying
because they can't afford treatment and others going bankrupt due to medical
crises.

And rather than work toward a solution, it has devolved into a political game
at the highest and lowest levels.

Unfortunately, the U.S. has hte best healthcare only for those who can afford
it. Equal heathcare should be a right, not a privilege.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:


Look...  this sort of thing is precisely the reason we should be having in
depth discussions about things like this.
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep 26 13:06:32 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:06:32 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV66F877B6200C235D80434C8D80@phx.gbl>

Ok....somebody else will have to come up with "whatever-they-call=it then. :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Soave
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 1:18 PM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com, breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net, Robert E. Shlafer
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

No.

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net> wrote:

From: Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com, breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 11:27 AM

Measurement of "Squeezedown" of airflow causing excessive "drag".....

I just remembered...."Reynolds Numbers"!!!?


Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E. Shlafer
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:18 PM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com, breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

Too much "squeeze down" of inbound airflow....high airflow "drag" numbers
accordingly. I forget the exact name of this
type of "drag", but this effect also makes for less accuracy in metering with
respect to progression, jets, etc.

Basically, too much carb for the application.

Anything below 34mm chokes, better all-around flow velocities, etc. with the
smaller
40.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:56 PM
To: breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

If you choke a 45 down to a 32 choke it generally flows less and doesn't 
perform as well as 40 in the same size.  That of course begs the question 
why it's possible to choke down if it's a bad idea - I don't have an  answer.

Weslake-Monza 1330

In a message dated 23/09/2009 21:23:24 GMT Daylight Time, breton48 at live.com
 writes:

They  don't stock the OER
in anything smaller than 45, and the minimum venturi  size is 32
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep 26 13:14:02 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:14:02 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] (Fwd) Automatic rough...
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV4669A5EA31425F521B05CC8D80@phx.gbl>

....LOL.... :)

noticed it in the air when flying single-engine and even two-engine propjets over long stretches of water.

Oddly enough, never noticed same with multi-engine pure jet or 4 engine-propjet
equipment! :)_

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep 26 13:25:45 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:25:45 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV96A714134C8EB3C7516B9C8D80@phx.gbl>

"I might give those Japanese carbs a try"

Well, Jacques....the price is right.....and....

if we go by the machinery the Japanese build these days, their Weber knock-offs
will be up to snuff and of course, being the clever folk they are, they improved upon the design and 'corrected' for the original in  providing variable adjustment to assist in far more easily "tuning' out that infamous  Weber side-draft off-idle "bog"! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sat Sep 26 13:52:27 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:52:27 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Facet Fuel Pump Mounting Kit
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV105856114C1DDA564ECFD6C8D80@phx.gbl>

Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies (websearch)

Such a deal.....Part #1130....approx. $13.00 :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 13:53:09 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:53:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO Spridget
	content
Message-ID: <402188520909261253h3d700722l3d6c85b6ea992d1e@mail.gmail.com>

> ... Equal heathcare should be a right, not a privilege.

Bleeding hearts aside, exactly what is the basis for such a statement?
And how would you define "equal healthcare"? If my neighbor gets
cancer, he wants rather more healthcare than I do; would he not suffer
under equal healthcare?

We do happen to live in a capitalistic society. Most of us grew up
being told that communism was evil. Now we get communistic principles
floated at us with no attempt at logic. Sure, equal healthcare is a
great concept (assuming it is both equal AND good). So are most of the
other principles in communism. Unfortunately, if you could make
everyone equal (please note that the Declaration of Independence
merely states that all men are created equal, NOT that they remain
equal), you have also removed all motivation to go out and do
something.
David L

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep 26 13:53:43 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:53:43 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite on eBay
Message-ID: <c68.57627fa8.37efcb47@aol.com>

More Healeys by Geoffrey Healey out of print and quite expensive if you can 
 find a copy.
 
In a message dated 26/09/2009 13:15:19 GMT Daylight Time,  
grunthaner at gmail.com writes:

Anyone  know who the winner is and where do we find reading material on  
this
beauty? I'd love to read more about the mechanicals and the body  
fabrication
history as well as where she has been all these years. I have  never seen a
Sprite have bidding of 163 bids even though there were just 20  bidders. And
cool  winning bid too : )
Lin

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep 26 13:58:47 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:58:47 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <ca2.57f16891.37efcc77@aol.com>

Hi Cap'n,
 
What I meant was:  If it's a bad idea, which it is, why is it possible  to 
implement such a bad idea?  For example the smallest size main  venture you 
can put in a 48DCOE is 40 (which is the max size for a 45DCOE), yet  later 
on when the 48DCOE was replaced with the 48DCO the smallest size main  
venturi was 42.  Also, on the 48 DCO (not sure about the 48DCOE) there is  no 
provision for a cold start device with the carb simply being cast smooth at  
that point.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 26/09/2009 17:30:17 GMT Daylight Time,  
pilotrob at webtv.net writes:

Too much  "squeeze down" of inbound airflow....high airflow "drag" numbers 
accordingly.  I forget the exact name of this
type of "drag", but this effect also makes  for less accuracy in metering 
with respect to progression, jets,  etc.

Basically, too much carb for the application.

Anything  below 34mm chokes, better all-around flow velocities, etc. with 
the  smaller
40. 

Cap'n. Bob      '60  :{)


-----Original Message-----
From:  WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:56 PM
To:  breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber  DCOE vs OER DCOE

If you choke a 45 down to a 32 choke it generally  flows less and doesn't  
perform as well as 40 in the same size.   That of course begs the question  
why it's possible to choke down if  it's a bad idea - I don't have an  
answer.

Weslake-Monza  1330

In a message dated 23/09/2009 21:23:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
breton48 at live.com 
writes:

They  don't stock the OER
in  anything smaller than 45, and the minimum venturi  size is 32
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 14:55:17 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 13:55:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
Message-ID: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

>From the Runoffs. Here's why we'll be having a brief tech inspection that will include asking you demonstrate torqued lug nuts prior to going on the track for touring at Elkhart Lake in 2011:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtM5cxkYzpU

Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 15:07:09 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:07:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
In-Reply-To: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909261407t7741868sc6c73027f48e3ab6@mail.gmail.com>

Not being facetious here, only trying to become more educated. What about
wire wheel cars?  I've never raced one so have no idea how you'd check the
torque on the spinner. Also, I would think it makes things a bit dicy if the
wires aren't tuned and true......  I HAVE broken spokes on wire wheel cars
under hard cornering and it pitches the car around somewhat when it happens
as the wheel stresses into an out of true condition. Surely we can't check
all the spokes for true!  It is the "too tight" spokes that are usually the
ones that break.

Cheers!!
Jim - Inquiring minds....

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> >From the Runoffs. Here's why we'll be having a brief tech inspection that
> will include asking you demonstrate torqued lug nuts prior to going on the
> track for touring at Elkhart Lake in 2011:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtM5cxkYzpU
>
> Ron
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Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 26 15:08:27 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:08:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
In-Reply-To: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ABE82CB.19002.16D9BB9@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Ouch!!

I saw something very similar at Kyalami in 1968... but it was an F1 
Gran Prix that lost a driven wheel...
Man those wheels can bounce high and far!

On 26 Sep 2009 at 13:55, Ron Soave wrote:

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtM5cxkYzpU


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 26 15:28:28 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:28:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909261407t7741868sc6c73027f48e3ab6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<43840a7e0909261407t7741868sc6c73027f48e3ab6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4ABE877C.11851.17FEE4C@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Jim,

IIRC... knock-offs are self tightening
(Someone wheel castigate me if I'm wrong ! )

On 26 Sep 2009 at 14:07, Jim Johnson wrote:

>> What about
>> wire wheel cars?  I've never raced one so have no idea how you'd check
>> the torque on the spinner.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 15:30:53 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:30:53 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
In-Reply-To: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910909261430s5e49f9c1qa9c6f3db089c68ba@mail.gmail.com>

Even if they are checked, things can go wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyMDNzhfwn0

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 15:31:36 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:31:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
In-Reply-To: <4ABE877C.11851.17FEE4C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0909261407t7741868sc6c73027f48e3ab6@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ABE877C.11851.17FEE4C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909261431h365014echb823916fb6b3ea7c@mail.gmail.com>

Geez, Dave!  I wouldn't castigate you!!  Then you couldn't have babies!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> IIRC... knock-offs are self tightening
> (Someone wheel castigate me if I'm wrong ! )
>
> On 26 Sep 2009 at 14:07, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> >> What about
> >> wire wheel cars?  I've never raced one so have no idea how you'd check
> >> the torque on the spinner.
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
>
> Age is just another number... !
>



--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 26 15:39:00 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:39:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Facet Fuel Pump Mounting Kit
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV105856114C1DDA564ECFD6C8D80@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV105856114C1DDA564ECFD6C8D80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <89C808C8DE4B4895B20494FD414DA214@HomePC>

Talk to Peter C. @ World Wide 

www.nosimport.com

He has one for less than half of that.




--------------------------------------------------
From: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:52 PM
To: <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Facet Fuel Pump Mounting Kit

> Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies (websearch)
> 
> Such a deal.....Part #1130....approx. $13.00 :)
> 
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From pilotrob at msn.com  Sat Sep 26 15:42:23 2009
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:42:23 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: Facet Fuel Pump
 Mounting Kit
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV7735CA68397D1B7DD8A01D4D80@phx.gbl>

Okiedoke. :)

CB


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Daniels
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:39 PM
To: Robert E. Shlafer, bugeye at yahoogroups.com, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Re: [Spridgets] Facet Fuel Pump Mounting Kit

Talk to Peter C. @ World Wide 

www.nosimport.com

He has one for less than half of that.




--------------------------------------------------
From: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:52 PM
To: <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; <midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Facet Fuel Pump Mounting Kit

> Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies (websearch)
> 
> Such a deal.....Part #1130....approx. $13.00 :)
> 
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sat Sep 26 16:07:49 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:07:49 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
Message-ID: <d08.62db1c10.37efeab5@aol.com>

With wire wheel cars the key things are to check the spinner isn't cracked  
(once found one that was), that the hub and wheel aren't worn to the extent 
that  the spinner is tightened against the spoke heads, that the spokes all 
sound  about the same when you run a pencil around them.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330 on 5.5" knock-off wire wheels
 
In a message dated 26/09/2009 22:15:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
bmwwxman at gmail.com writes:

Not  being facetious here, only trying to become more educated. What about
wire  wheel cars?  I've never raced one so have no idea how you'd check  the
torque on the spinner. Also, I would think it makes things a bit dicy  if 
the
wires aren't tuned and true......  I HAVE broken spokes on wire  wheel cars
under hard cornering and it pitches the car around somewhat when  it happens
as the wheel stresses into an out of true condition. Surely we  can't check
all the spokes for true!  It is the "too tight" spokes  that are usually the
ones that break.

Cheers!!
Jim - Inquiring  minds....

From dwramsey at att.net  Sat Sep 26 16:16:41 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:16:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
In-Reply-To: <448780.75472.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090926221652.091E7187667@autox.team.net>

Bernoulli,s? 
		Crash

No.

Measurement of "Squeezedown" of airflow causing excessive "drag".....

I just remembered...."Reynolds Numbers"!!!?


Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Sep 26 16:29:23 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:29:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
In-Reply-To: <4ABE877C.11851.17FEE4C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <398024.30871.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<43840a7e0909261407t7741868sc6c73027f48e3ab6@mail.gmail.com>
	<4ABE877C.11851.17FEE4C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5137709C2AB24F93B1DF969B145C6964@spider>

They can still loosen but then you'll strip the splines instead of the wheel
falling off; rev rev but no wheel turn. ...bill in oregon
=================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:28 PM
To: Jim Johnson; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wheels off

Jim,

IIRC... knock-offs are self tightening
(Someone wheel castigate me if I'm wrong ! )

On 26 Sep 2009 at 14:07, Jim Johnson wrote:

>> What about
>> wire wheel cars?  I've never raced one so have no idea how you'd check
>> the torque on the spinner.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !
You are subscribed as corvallis at peoplepc.com

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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 16:29:45 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:29:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
Message-ID: <706937.74713.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Surely we can't check all the spokes for true!  

We're not going to check everything by any stretch. There will be a touring tech sheet for driver to self-check along with a few cursory checks that our "scrutineers" will look at (visual for massive leaks, verify there's brake fluid in the reservoir, verify brake lights work) to make sure no one hurts anyone else! Even during the VSCDA annual tech, there are almost no actual checks other than visuals to verify safety equipment is present. Driver/owner has complete responsibility for the functioning of the car.

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 16:31:17 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:31:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <730380.80564.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Nope.

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> From:
David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net>
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER
DCOE
> To: "'Ron Soave'" <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 5:16 PM
> Bernoulli,s? 
>         Crash
>
> No.
> 
> Measurement of "Squeezedown" of airflow causing excessive
>
"drag".....
> 
> I just remembered...."Reynolds Numbers"!!!?
> 
> 
> Cap'n.
Bob      '60 :{)

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 26 16:58:00 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:58:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
Message-ID: <4ABE9C78.2439.D80C3@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Jim,
OMG... 2 Marriages, 8 Divorces for a total of 8 kids!!
Where were you when I needed you  LOL !! 
 
>> On 26 Sep 2009 at 14:31, Jim Johnson wrote:
>> 
>> >> Geez, Dave!  I wouldn't castigate you!!  Then you couldn't have
>> >> babies! 
>> 


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 26 17:25:32 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:25:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <402188520909261253h3d700722l3d6c85b6ea992d1e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909261253h3d700722l3d6c85b6ea992d1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3A2A51BEA0D148FA9C5F9BB0F1EF9A25@HomePC>

Communism?  Please, David.  The public health care plan being proposed 
doesn't even meet the classical definition of Socialism.  But Communism? 
Yer kidding, right?

I believe Jay was expressing his feelings about it.  The basis for his 
statement is his opinion -- just like the basis for the opinions of those 
who disagree is nothing more than their opinion.

Unless you are prepared to suggest that the rest of the industrialized world 
is "evil" like you stated because they don't mimic our failed system, I'd 
suggest not tossing terms like "communist" around.  Geesh!




--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 2:53 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO 
Spridgetcontent

>> ... Equal heathcare should be a right, not a privilege.
>
> Bleeding hearts aside, exactly what is the basis for such a statement?
> And how would you define "equal healthcare"? If my neighbor gets
> cancer, he wants rather more healthcare than I do; would he not suffer
> under equal healthcare?
>
> We do happen to live in a capitalistic society. Most of us grew up
> being told that communism was evil. Now we get communistic principles
> floated at us with no attempt at logic. Sure, equal healthcare is a
> great concept (assuming it is both equal AND good). So are most of the
> other principles in communism. Unfortunately, if you could make
> everyone equal (please note that the Declaration of Independence
> merely states that all men are created equal, NOT that they remain
> equal), you have also removed all motivation to go out and do
> something.
> David L
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From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sat Sep 26 17:42:52 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:42:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] California Ammunition Restrictions
In-Reply-To: <9892A93BA9AE43A7B9EDD1E783F76C8D@HomePC>
References: <BAY116-DAV9384058400553292687BFD4D90@phx.gbl>
	<h9jlk5+l8h8@eGroups.com><43840a7e0909251833p5496868cx3018c891b2bf3552@mail.gmail.com>
	<010e01ca3e7a$062942a0$127bc7e0$@net>
	<9892A93BA9AE43A7B9EDD1E783F76C8D@HomePC>
Message-ID: <01e601ca3f03$1120bb50$336231f0$@net>

Larry Daniels wrote:  " I noticed that you failed to mention that the U.S.
ranks 29th in infant mortality rates -- a major factor in ranking a
countries health."

I apologize, Larry, for I did not mean to sucker you in and then blind-side
you with *reality*.  I did not address the issue of infant mortality simply
because there is no *reliable* data when nations, the U.N.  AND the World
Health Organization use different and inconsistent standards to define
"infant mortality" and "live births".

The greatest problem is that people want something dumb-simple when it comes
to statistics.  They do not want to read the methodology or footnotes in
order to understand what is being presented.  Generally, they simply latch
on to a number that conveniently supports their position.

The difficulty is that there is no *reliable* data when nations use
different standards to define "infant mortality" and "live births".  France
simply uses the term "alive and viable", the Netherlands forbids
resuscitation of babies born prior to 25 weeks, and the UK does not count
any baby born prior to 24 weeks that dies whether they are initially
breathing and showing signs of life or not.  In Russia, a baby must be more
than 1,000 g, 28 weeks, 35 cm.  The U.S. criteria is that a live birth is
any baby born showing *any* signs of life.   It is therefore impossible to
come up with any realistic or reliable  "list" when it comes to infant
mortality.  Oh, the WHO has sought to establish four criteria on countries,
but admit it cannot be done with any reliability.  Carrying it further,
typically the findings of one of four agencies are used:  U.N., WHO, CIA and
national statistical organizations.  In comparing the four, they all have
different rankings.  Which of these is correct?

By some criteria my wife and I have no twins, for they would not have been
declared a live birth.

Larry Daniels wrote:  "Also note that a countries health ranking takes in
all health conditions not just mortality rates.  Just because a lot of
people are alive doesn't mean they are in good health..The last time the WHO
ranked the worlds health systems, we were at a solid 37th.  Statistically
speaking, of course.  ;-))

Oh, that hilariously outdated (2000) and ridiculous WHO report that
supposedly found the U.S. was behind even Morocco, Cyprus and Costa Rica?
Oops, you forgot to mention that, "The World Health Organization's ranking
of the world's health systems was last produced in 2000, and the WHO no
longer produces such a ranking table, because of the complexity of the
task."  You could have just as well used the 2009 CIA World Factbook that
estimates the U.S. is 50th out of 224 nations in life expectancy.

There are two issues here.  Even the WHO admits it is an impossible task,
"The first challenge is lack of reliable data on mortality and morbidity,"
it wrote, "especially from low income countries. Other issues include lack
of *comparability of self reported data* from health interviews and the
measurement of health-state preferences for such self-reporting."  Now, even
the WHO uses "life expectancy" as its guideline.  Interestingly, the
just-released WHO "World Health Statistics 2009" does not even attempt a
ranking by country.

That, unfortunately, is the second complicating issue.  The WHO, U.N. and
even CIA use simple "life expectancy" as a measure.  However, there is a
vast  difference between "natural" and "unnatural" deaths in comparing life
expectancy.

When using simple life expectancy, many factors unique to America and
*totally unrelated to health care* are injected into the discussion that
skew the data.  The United States, rightly or wrongly, leads the world in
homicides and vehicular deaths.  These deaths usually take place in the 20's
and 30's, thus skewing the data even further.

In any discussion of health care and life expectancy, only "natural" deaths
can be legitimately considered.  In terms of "natural" deaths, like it or
not, America leads the world at 76.9 years.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 18:14:01 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:14:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <3A2A51BEA0D148FA9C5F9BB0F1EF9A25@HomePC>
References: <402188520909261253h3d700722l3d6c85b6ea992d1e@mail.gmail.com>
	<3A2A51BEA0D148FA9C5F9BB0F1EF9A25@HomePC>
Message-ID: <402188520909261714x5870f3fdg793357aacc9e2dc6@mail.gmail.com>

> Unless you are prepared to suggest that the rest of the industrialized
world
> is "evil" like you stated because they don't mimic our failed system, I'd
> suggest not tossing terms like "communist" around.  Geesh!

So what you are saying is that everyone else is entitled to their
opinion, just not me?
Sorry, don't work dat way whether you are dealing with capitalists,
communists, or socialists.
You call them the way you see them and I will do likewise ;-)
By the way, the minute you start using phrases like "the rest of the
industrialized world", you have signed away all credibility. There
simply ain't nothin' "the rest of the industrialized world" agrees on
anyway.
David L

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 26 18:43:41 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:43:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <402188520909261714x5870f3fdg793357aacc9e2dc6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909261253h3d700722l3d6c85b6ea992d1e@mail.gmail.com><3A2A51BEA0D148FA9C5F9BB0F1EF9A25@HomePC>
	<402188520909261714x5870f3fdg793357aacc9e2dc6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1CE443E11F77420081F61009F686B51C@HomePC>

Read it again, David.  I absolutely did not say you weren't entitled to your 
opinion.  Facts are another matter.

Credibility relies on facts, not opinions.  Get yours straight.

--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:14 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO 
Spridgetcontent

>> Unless you are prepared to suggest that the rest of the industrialized
> world
>> is "evil" like you stated because they don't mimic our failed system, I'd
>> suggest not tossing terms like "communist" around.  Geesh!
>
> So what you are saying is that everyone else is entitled to their
> opinion, just not me?
> Sorry, don't work dat way whether you are dealing with capitalists,
> communists, or socialists.
> You call them the way you see them and I will do likewise ;-)
> By the way, the minute you start using phrases like "the rest of the
> industrialized world", you have signed away all credibility. There
> simply ain't nothin' "the rest of the industrialized world" agrees on
> anyway.
> David L
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 18:47:37 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:47:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <1CE443E11F77420081F61009F686B51C@HomePC>
References: <402188520909261253h3d700722l3d6c85b6ea992d1e@mail.gmail.com>
	<3A2A51BEA0D148FA9C5F9BB0F1EF9A25@HomePC>
	<402188520909261714x5870f3fdg793357aacc9e2dc6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1CE443E11F77420081F61009F686B51C@HomePC>
Message-ID: <402188520909261747l1fb28ffbs5e416eaa9616f169@mail.gmail.com>

The FACT that you do not agree with me does not improve your credibility ;-)
Don't you get a little tired of the loneliness?
David L

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 26 19:01:24 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:01:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
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References: <402188520909261253h3d700722l3d6c85b6ea992d1e@mail.gmail.com><3A2A51BEA0D148FA9C5F9BB0F1EF9A25@HomePC><402188520909261714x5870f3fdg793357aacc9e2dc6@mail.gmail.com><1CE443E11F77420081F61009F686B51C@HomePC>
	<402188520909261747l1fb28ffbs5e416eaa9616f169@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4EBE6CC44C24DF886DF2BAF854B7CB9@HomePC>

Oh, brother.  Good night, David.  Sleep tight. Don't let those nasty, 
communist bedbugs bite.




--------------------------------------------------
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:47 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO 
Spridgetcontent

> The FACT that you do not agree with me does not improve your credibility 
> ;-)
> Don't you get a little tired of the loneliness?
> David L
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 19:05:35 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:05:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <C4EBE6CC44C24DF886DF2BAF854B7CB9@HomePC>
References: <402188520909261253h3d700722l3d6c85b6ea992d1e@mail.gmail.com>
	<3A2A51BEA0D148FA9C5F9BB0F1EF9A25@HomePC>
	<402188520909261714x5870f3fdg793357aacc9e2dc6@mail.gmail.com>
	<1CE443E11F77420081F61009F686B51C@HomePC>
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	<C4EBE6CC44C24DF886DF2BAF854B7CB9@HomePC>
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> Oh, brother.  Good night, David.  Sleep tight. Don't let those nasty,
> communist bedbugs bite.

Larry, Larry, Larry... Are you confusing communism with the late
lamented Soviet Union again. They were no more communist than we are
except in name.
David L

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Sep 26 19:09:24 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:09:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W57F6331AB8C2F610DD706ECAD80@phx.gbl>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
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I think it might be a good place to caravan to. Do we really want to 
have cardboard sandwiches, or should we go in to a real restaurant for a 
lunch and come back?

Kate


Bill Masquelier wrote:
> You can definitely count me in for a run to Oshkosh!! I have been wanting to
> get there for about 40 years!!
> BillM
>
>   
>> From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:34:37 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
>>
>> Hey, all.  I was just watching the Barrett-Jackson auction where they
>> auctioned off a Ford Tri-Motor for $1,100,000.
>>
>> Regarding the Midget 50th, the Experimental Aircraft Association's museum is
>> one hour from the festivities.  They have a Ford Tri-Motor there that flies
>> around giving tours constantly.  Would there be any interest in visiting
>> that museum during the 50th?
>>
>> http://www.eaa.org/museum/
>>
>> I can arrange a group tour at a discount rate including a box lunch, etc.,
>> if you would like to see it.  So... what do you think?  Should we put it on
>> the agenda?
>>
>> LAD
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 19:13:04 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:13:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <C4EBE6CC44C24DF886DF2BAF854B7CB9@HomePC>
Message-ID: <295028.95295.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All righty then. I&#39;m going to the Runoffs tomorrow. Anyone else? 

Ron

Larry Daniels wrote: 
> Oh, brother.  Good night, David.  Sleep tight. Don't let those nasty, communist bedbugs bite.
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:47 PM
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO Spridgetcontent
>> The FACT that you do not agree with me does not improve your credibility ;-)
>> Don't you get a little tired of the loneliness?
>> David L
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sat Sep 26 19:26:57 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:26:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
In-Reply-To: <4ABEBB44.9060303@frontiernet.net>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com><5A093C4F1FC747D1B802246EAC118DE8@HomePC><SNT123-W57F6331AB8C2F610DD706ECAD80@phx.gbl>
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Kate, you aren't supposed to eat the box.  Just what's in it.



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:09 PM
Cc: "spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th

> I think it might be a good place to caravan to. Do we really want to have 
> cardboard sandwiches, or should we go in to a real restaurant for a lunch 
> and come back?
>
> Kate
>
>
> Bill Masquelier wrote:
>> You can definitely count me in for a run to Oshkosh!! I have been wanting 
>> to
>> get there for about 40 years!!
>> BillM
>>
>>
>>> From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
>>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>>> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:34:37 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th
>>>
>>> Hey, all.  I was just watching the Barrett-Jackson auction where they
>>> auctioned off a Ford Tri-Motor for $1,100,000.
>>>
>>> Regarding the Midget 50th, the Experimental Aircraft Association's 
>>> museum is
>>> one hour from the festivities.  They have a Ford Tri-Motor there that 
>>> flies
>>> around giving tours constantly.  Would there be any interest in visiting
>>> that museum during the 50th?
>>>
>>> http://www.eaa.org/museum/
>>>
>>> I can arrange a group tour at a discount rate including a box lunch, 
>>> etc.,
>>> if you would like to see it.  So... what do you think?  Should we put it 
>>> on
>>> the agenda?
>>>
>>> LAD
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 26 19:33:33 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:33:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Run-offs (change of subjecy)
In-Reply-To: <295028.95295.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C4EBE6CC44C24DF886DF2BAF854B7CB9@HomePC>,
	<295028.95295.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ABEC0ED.20090.9BE938@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Have any of the run-offs or regionals ever been streamed over the internet??

On 26 Sep 2009 at 18:13, Ron Soave wrote:

>> All righty then. I&#39;m going to the Runoffs tomorrow. Anyone else? 


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sat Sep 26 19:35:22 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:35:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909251404s56eabd8aw270335e000fa428f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909251232n12e16f05j83618714f68a5891@mail.gmail.com>
	<730183.46328.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> 
Message-ID: <BLU103-W1080443826B0083D523194C2D70@phx.gbl>

ROTFLAMO Jay,

Ron,

Team White Trash need a team manger??????????????

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:04:37 -0700
> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
> To: jfishbein at snet.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Classes
>
> Good thought, Jay...  I hear he's looking for work....
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
>
> > Flavio Briatore?
> >
> >
> >
> > Jay Fishbein
>
 		 	   		  
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From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Sep 26 19:48:17 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:48:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
In-Reply-To: <20090926221652.091E7187667@autox.team.net>
References: <20090926221652.091E7187667@autox.team.net>
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I'm told that the OCR of equal size will outflow the weber.

Pierce has 45 and 47 oce's for $200 today and tomorrow at sears point  
race track.

I think if you call them next week they will make a deal.

Larry miller


On Sep 26, 2009, at 3:16 PM, "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> Bernoulli,s?
>        Crash
>
> No.
>
> Measurement of "Squeezedown" of airflow causing excessive "drag".....
>
> I just remembered...."Reynolds Numbers"!!!?
>
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From breton48 at live.com  Sat Sep 26 20:19:56 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:19:56 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
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Larry M. wrote: I'm told that the OCR of equal size will outflow the weber.

Pierce has 45 and 47 oce's for $200 today and tomorrow at sears point  
race track.

I think if you call them next week they will make a deal.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks, Larry. I'll call them on Monday and see what kind of deal I can make
either on the OCR 45 or Weber 40s!

JLC in Colorado

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Sep 26 21:29:30 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:29:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] (Fwd) Automatic rough...
In-Reply-To: <4ABE42E7.2966.740926@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4ABE42E7.2966.740926@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4ABEDC1A.7020807@comcast.net>

Dave G. wrote:
> When I was flying single engine planes over water or desert, there 
> was
> a phenomena known as "automatic rough" --- in the middle of nowhere
> the engine would seem to start running rough... makes you sweat!
>   

Just crap in the carburettor.
Do this twice a week and you will never have that problem again.
Or as my neighbor used to say...."Dirt in the high speed jets"

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Sep 26 21:42:31 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 20:42:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] (Fwd) Automatic rough...
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References: <4ABE42E7.2966.740926@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<4ABEDC1A.7020807@comcast.net>
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Nah, Frank.  This effect is all in your head.  There is really nothing
wrong. Its just the situation that makes your mind think you hear
something....  Especially when you start to run over the directions for
ditching in the water in your head while you fly. Same thing when you are
riding a 50 year old motorcycle across the middle of nowhere. I swear you
can actually hear the wheel bearings moving and every stroke of the pistons
and click of the tappets and valves....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Dave G. wrote:
>
>> When I was flying single engine planes over water or desert, there was
>> a phenomena known as "automatic rough" --- in the middle of nowhere
>> the engine would seem to start running rough... makes you sweat!
>>
>>
>
> Just crap in the carburettor.
> Do this twice a week and you will never have that problem again.
> Or as my neighbor used to say...."Dirt in the high speed jets"
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 26 22:52:11 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 21:52:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Run-offs (change of subjecy)
In-Reply-To: <4ABEC0ED.20090.9BE938@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <507586.48397.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:
> Have any of the run-offs or regionals
> ever been streamed over the internet??

www.speedcasttv.com

H-Prod tomorrow, my buddy Reid Hazelton is in the Form Ford (car #02) race at 11:30 local time with a car that's 15 years behind in technology and zero budget. He qualified mid pack but break top 5 if his rev limiter lets him go over 6000 RPM. Watching Reid drive reminded me of when I played against Craig Biggio in High School baseball (Biggio finished his 21 year career last year with over 3000 hits and is a certain Hall of Famer) - you realize you are watching someone way, way, way better than you. Reid could whup my ass driving a tricycle.

Ron

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Sep 26 23:18:09 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:18:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Run-offs (change of subjecy)
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References: <4ABEC0ED.20090.9BE938@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<507586.48397.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Thanks Ron..  :-))

On 26 Sep 2009 at 21:52, Ron Soave wrote:

>> --- On Sat, 9/26/09, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:
>> > Have any of the run-offs or regionals
>> > ever been streamed over the internet??
>> 
>> www.speedcasttv.com
>> 
--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From davriker at nwi.net  Sat Sep 26 23:53:23 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:53:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
References: <402188520909261253h3d700722l3d6c85b6ea992d1e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9AB33F413C9540CCAA5AC26661D3FD5D@MAIN>

Why is health care a right?  Isn't food more important than health care, yet 
the government won't provide me with food. What about shelter?  Isn't 
shelter more important than health care?  Without proper shelter won't I be 
prone to getting sick?  Then shouldn't the government provide me with a 
house?  And if they do, shouldn't all houses be equal?  I think I want one 
just like the movie star has, you know, the 10,000 square foot home in 
Malibu beach, because housing should be a right, not a privilege....

BS!  Health care is a LUXURY.  Those who earn more can afford more, and 
should be entitled to buy more.  The basic laws of survival are that you 
work to provide yourself and your dependants with food, shelter, health 
care, and then luxuries.  The problem, is we have many people who could 
afford health care; who are unwilling to sacrifice cars, TVs, dishwashers, 
telephones, and other luxury items to pay for their health care.

The only publicly funded health care should be for those who CAN NOT provide 
it for themselves, ie, mentally ill, handicapped, orphans, and the like. 
People who are now, or have been able bodied should pay for their own 
insurance to cover today and the future.

David Riker

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:53 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO 
Spridgetcontent


>> ... Equal heathcare should be a right, not a privilege.
>
> Bleeding hearts aside, exactly what is the basis for such a statement?
> And how would you define "equal healthcare"? If my neighbor gets
> cancer, he wants rather more healthcare than I do; would he not suffer
> under equal healthcare?

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 27 04:52:44 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 10:52:44 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV4CE8AB9B18A2DB2B4DE18C8D70@phx.gbl>

"Reynolds Numbers" apply to liquids as far as I know (which is not that far in these respects) however, Reynolds Numbers were mentioned in Passini's book on Weber 
"Theory" (orange) which is where I 
got the term.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Soave
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 6:31 PM
To: David Ramsey
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

Nope.

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> From:
David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net>
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER
DCOE
> To: "'Ron Soave'" <soavero at yahoo.com>
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>
Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 5:16 PM
> Bernoulli,s? 
>         Crash
>
> No.
> 
> Measurement of "Squeezedown" of airflow causing excessive
>
"drag".....
> 
> I just remembered...."Reynolds Numbers"!!!?
> 
> 
> Cap'n.
Bob      '60 :{)
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 27 05:24:59 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:24:59 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV62817AB31BA73984E0483C8D70@phx.gbl>

LOL.... :):)

..there are a lot of things it's possible to do that maybe we shouldn't do!! And as we gain experience over time, we're usually appreciative of the fact to one extent or another we survived and are still alive! :) 

Now, seriously...

DCOE vs DCO.....

....according to Passini on Weber (I don't "know" mind you, just the messenger) "a DCO is not at all a DCOE".

Now.....he never explained ALL or any of the "differences" and I've no knowledge or experience with a DCO...so I've no real clue on this. I simply don't know, Daniel.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 3:58 PM
To: pilotrob at webtv.net, breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

Hi Cap'n,
 
What I meant was:  If it's a bad idea, which it is, why is it possible  to 
implement such a bad idea?  For example the smallest size main  venture you 
can put in a 48DCOE is 40 (which is the max size for a 45DCOE), yet  later 
on when the 48DCOE was replaced with the 48DCO the smallest size main  
venturi was 42.  Also, on the 48 DCO (not sure about the 48DCOE) there is  no 
provision for a cold start device with the carb simply being cast smooth at  
that point.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 26/09/2009 17:30:17 GMT Daylight Time,  
pilotrob at webtv.net writes:

Too much  "squeeze down" of inbound airflow....high airflow "drag" numbers 
accordingly.  I forget the exact name of this
type of "drag", but this effect also makes  for less accuracy in metering 
with respect to progression, jets,  etc.

Basically, too much carb for the application.

Anything  below 34mm chokes, better all-around flow velocities, etc. with 
the  smaller
40. 

Cap'n. Bob      '60  :{)


-----Original Message-----
From:  WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:56 PM
To:  breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber  DCOE vs OER DCOE

If you choke a 45 down to a 32 choke it generally  flows less and doesn't  
perform as well as 40 in the same size.   That of course begs the question  
why it's possible to choke down if  it's a bad idea - I don't have an  
answer.

Weslake-Monza  1330

In a message dated 23/09/2009 21:23:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
breton48 at live.com 
writes:

They  don't stock the OER
in  anything smaller than 45, and the minimum venturi  size is 32
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 27 05:27:18 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:27:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV4CE8AB9B18A2DB2B4DE18C8D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <877640.91994.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net> wrote:
> "Reynolds Numbers" apply to liquids
> as far as I know (which is not that far in these respects)
> however,

Reynold's number applies to all fluids, air included. Off the top of my head at 6am - It is dimensionless, and is equal to the density times the velocity of the fluid times effective diameter of the fuid passage divided by the kinematic viscosity (rho*V*De/mu). For air, Reynold's number is used to calculate the friction factor, and that's equal to .046/Re^.2 if memory serves. The simplified form of Bernoulli in the case we are talking about is that flow: W=density * Area * velocity. As you can see, there are common terms in each equation, so you can manipulate them to come up with a friction factor, but that factor will only tell you the friction per unit length, hence my "nope". In fact, the throat reduction here makes the air behave somewhere in between a swage and a sudden contraction. In both cases, the friction factor varies non-linearly with the ratio of the upstream and downstream areas. You want to keep it gradual, with a reduction angle of less
 than seven degrees for the inner edge of the boundary layer of flow. Throw in additional effects of non-uniform flow fields due to the contraction and the effect on the vena-contracta in the venturi throat and the homogeneity of the flow and downstream mixture suffer.

Or you could switch back to SUs.

Off to the races,
Ron

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 27 05:35:42 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:35:42 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV10BB9D46650829C6661AD1C8D70@phx.gbl>

"Off to the races"

Ah....so I did recall the correct term as in "Reynold's Numbers", then. Cool!!

Thanx, Ron. Have a good time out there!! :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Sep 27 06:03:18 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:03:18 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <c2b.3e48db22.37f0ae86@aol.com>

Of course what you really need is a set of really rare and NLA 42  DCOEs.  
Seen them on a Triumph.
 
In a message dated 27/09/2009 03:30:07 GMT Daylight Time, breton48 at live.com 
 writes:

Larry M.  wrote: I'm told that the OCR of equal size will outflow the  
weber.

Pierce has 45 and 47 oce's for $200 today and tomorrow at sears  point  
race track.

I think if you call them next week they  will make a deal.

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 27 06:05:02 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:05:02 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV5E79DA9972161AAEEDA08C8D70@phx.gbl>

Every one else has had their say so here's my 2 cents. "Health Care is a 'right'".

No it's not. But we'd sure like to make it so if at all possible, wouldn't we?? Sure.

But to work "fairly" it needs to be FULLY FUNDED (no "rationing" generally speaking) and of course, you need an adequate doctor/patient ratio for it to work properly. Understand the older you get, the more you can reasonably expect
to require. This reality must be accepted and provided for.

Since we are undergoing a major recession, we certainly can't afford it at this point in time (bad "timing") and we haven't the doctor/patient ratio required in any event..........to the extent approx 45% of practicing doctors polled say they will leave the field if Obamacare becomes law as they will not be able to give their patients the time they deserve while being able to make a living. 

We already have a system in place wherein we know the good and the bad, so no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater, IMHO, 

Reform our present system accordingly inclusive of tort reform and a better quality of gov't financial oversight to eliminate fraud & abuse while providing a government "net" for those 12,000 or so LEGAL inhabitants who want, but really cannot afford. 

No services provided to illegals & dependents, born here (by those illegally here to begin with) or otherwise except for life-threatening emergency care followed by deportation. We'll save your life on our dime but otherwise, home you go.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com  Sun Sep 27 06:06:19 2009
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:06:19 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <ca7.4eb7f8fd.37f0af3b@aol.com>

The DCOE and DCO are visually very similar.  They are different carbs  but 
not dissimilar like a IDA or DCNF for example.  Search ebay for a  48DCOE 
and most likely what you'll get is a 48 DCO.
 
In a message dated 27/09/2009 12:25:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
pilotrob at webtv.net writes:

LOL....  :):)

..there are a lot of things it's possible to do that maybe we  shouldn't 
do!! And as we gain experience over time, we're usually appreciative  of the 
fact to one extent or another we survived and are still alive! :)  

Now, seriously...

DCOE vs DCO.....

....according to  Passini on Weber (I don't "know" mind you, just the 
messenger) "a DCO is not  at all a DCOE".

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 27 06:09:06 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:09:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
In-Reply-To: <877640.91994.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <877640.91994.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E9BE32624CB44184A883BDA7B2456646@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:27 AM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

> --- On Sun, 9/27/09, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net> wrote:
>> "Reynolds Numbers" apply to liquids
>> as far as I know (which is not that far in these respects)
>> however,
>
> Reynold's number applies to all fluids, air included. Off the top of my 
> head at 6am - It is dimensionless, and is equal to the density times the 
> velocity of the fluid times effective diameter of the fuid passage divided 
> by the kinematic viscosity (rho*V*De/mu). For air, Reynold's number is 
> used to calculate the friction factor, and that's equal to .046/Re^.2 if 
> memory serves. The simplified form of Bernoulli in the case we are talking 
> about is that flow: W=density * Area * velocity. As you can see, there are 
> common terms in each equation, so you can manipulate them to come up with 
> a friction factor, but that factor will only tell you the friction per 
> unit length, hence my "nope". In fact, the throat reduction here makes the 
> air behave somewhere in between a swage and a sudden contraction. In both 
> cases, the friction factor varies non-linearly with the ratio of the 
> upstream and downstream areas. You want to keep it gradual, with a 
> reduction angle of less
> than seven degrees for the inner edge of the boundary layer of flow. Throw 
> in additional effects of non-uniform flow fields due to the contraction 
> and the effect on the vena-contracta in the venturi throat and the 
> homogeneity of the flow and downstream mixture suffer.
>
> Or you could switch back to SUs.
>
> Off to the races,
> Ron
> _______________________________________________

I knew that.

Not. 

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 27 06:15:53 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:15:53 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs DCO
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV766E3326EC1A5FD22AD03C8D70@phx.gbl>

Caution...external appearances can be decieving (like women!!!:):)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:06 AM
To: pilotrob at webtv.net, breton48 at live.com, spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

 
The DCOE and DCO are visually very similar.  They are different carbs  but 
not dissimilar like a IDA or DCNF for example.  Search ebay for a  48DCOE 
and most likely what you'll get is a 48 DCO.
 
In a message dated 27/09/2009 12:25:24 GMT Daylight Time,  
pilotrob at webtv.net writes:

LOL....  :):)

..there are a lot of things it's possible to do that maybe we  shouldn't 
do!! And as we gain experience over time, we're usually appreciative  of the 
fact to one extent or another we survived and are still alive! :)  

Now, seriously...

DCOE vs DCO.....

....according to  Passini on Weber (I don't "know" mind you, just the 
messenger) "a DCO is not  at all a DCOE".

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 27 06:37:27 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:37:27 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV4532E6D6F4FC36B94ABE8C8D70@phx.gbl>

"I knew that"

Yeah..me, too...really!~! :):)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Sep 27 06:46:05 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 08:46:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiomobile?
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909230315i18d40d5clfae6756ea3065ea4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430909230315i18d40d5clfae6756ea3065ea4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909270546r2f51c51bs3498d2f459043a5b@mail.gmail.com>

Wow I just saw a few of these on eBay and they are not cheap. I just like
the name ; )
Lin

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> Is this really a Sprite radio?
> http://photos2.ebizautos.com/1952/4563370/4563370_17.jpg
>
> Found on the eBay ad for a 59 Sprite
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/The-best-Bug-Eye-we-ve-ever-seen_W0QQitemZ120472564983QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item1c0cb974f7&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
> Lin

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 27 07:04:20 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:04:20 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3B92DBB33291C2B07FDA5C8D70@phx.gbl>

"People who are able-bodies should pay for their own"

In principle I certainly agree however, we're not talking about the 1960's wherein upper level execs made 25 times what the avg worker made.

We're talking modern times wherein the avg upper level exec makes 300-500 times what the avg worker makes (ain't 
"globalization" great?!:).

So...the "few" (as above) have been able to keep up with or stay ahead of  the rising cost of living (including medica services/ healthcare) since the tripling+ of basic energy costs (oil) since the '70's while the majority of everyday working taxpayers
have fallen further and further behind in all respects financial.

Thus, we have Obama, "income redistribution", etc. 'cause prior government, party notwithstanding, effed up in terms of gov't "oversight"......

...which is the "ying" to corp/bigbiz (capitalistic) "yang".

Corp/big biz is supposed to make profit....
while gov't oversight provides the "social conscience" to keep it reasonable and be sure the working man doesn't get ripped off.

Well....maybe both effed up but IMHO, the
MAJOR  efferupper was government, party
notwithstanding.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Sep 27 07:07:50 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:07:50 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiomobile?
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV25FF31A8EF344EF0EB884C8D70@phx.gbl>

It's not like the early Radiomobile I had in my '58 BE or 56/60 MGA's, Linda but a later (70's/80's I believe?) model.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 27 08:30:47 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:30:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiomobile?
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV25FF31A8EF344EF0EB884C8D70@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV25FF31A8EF344EF0EB884C8D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <SNT123-W443593D2C8EB64BC9F5C8DCAD70@phx.gbl>

That radio appears to be made for the European market- the AM ("M") band is
calibrated in "meters" (wavelength) and the other band ("L" for "longwave")
has never been broadcast in the US as far as I know.
BillM

> From: pilotrob at webtv.net
> To: grunthaner at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:07:50 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Radiomobile?
>
> It's not like the early Radiomobile I had in my '58 BE or 56/60 MGA's, Linda
but a later (70's/80's I believe?) model.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Sep 27 10:39:54 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:39:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <507586.48397.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4ABEC0ED.20090.9BE938@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<507586.48397.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ABF955A.27310.894B64@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Being in the middle of Nowhere, I'll be watching via streaming video 
(if Verizon can stay up for more than 10 minutes!)
Could the listers competing in the Run-Offs please let me know their 
class and number - so I can remotely cheer (or groan ! ) ?
Thanks
--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Sep 27 12:20:42 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:20:42 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wheels off
In-Reply-To: <706937.74713.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <706937.74713.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP1348F67223C9C3A7A4DA32B8D70@phx.gbl>

Are the 'massive leaks' a requirement?

ED

-----Original Message-----

--- On Sat, 9/26/09, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Surely we can't check all the spokes for true!  

We're not going to check everything by any stretch. There will be a touring
tech sheet for driver to self-check along with a few cursory checks that our
"scrutineers" will look at (visual for massive leaks, verify there's brake
fluid in the reservoir, verify brake lights work) to make sure no one hurts
anyone else! Even during the VSCDA annual tech, there are almost no actual
checks other than visuals to verify safety equipment is present.
Driver/owner has complete responsibility for the functioning of the car.

Ron

From sales at justbrits.com  Sun Sep 27 12:23:09 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:23:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <4ABF955A.27310.894B64@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4ABEC0ED.20090.9BE938@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<507586.48397.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4ABF955A.27310.894B64@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4ABFAD8D.9020808@justbrits.com>

Dave, don't see any names I know, but for "HP":

*http://tinyurl.com/yc3upst

or
*
http://ams.scca.com/netforum/eweb/dynamicPage.aspx?site=scca&webkey=9df4d8df-a8e0-4290-9d38-527c972da9e4&evt_key=7C25D25B-CA80-4678-AA8A-2884B40B7A19&class=HP

**************************************************************
All Classes:

*http://tinyurl.com/y9ulff5

or

*http://ams.scca.com/netforum/eweb/dynamicPage.aspx?site=scca&webkey=9df4d8df-a8e0-4290-9d38-527c972da9e4&evt_key=7C25D25B-CA80-4678-AA8A-2884B40B7A19

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Sep 27 13:18:30 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 12:18:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <4ABFAD8D.9020808@justbrits.com>
References: <4ABEC0ED.20090.9BE938@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<4ABF955A.27310.894B64@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<4ABFAD8D.9020808@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4ABFBA86.880.11A8200@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Nice day to race ;-)

What a finish in FF... and within sight of the Checquered Flag  !!

So nice to see the Spridgets running in H Prod... and looking sooo 
good !


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 27 14:17:46 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <4ABFBA86.880.11A8200@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <470950.41391.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Reid went from 16th to 6th, got bu to 5th when rear link broke on last lap. He would have had a podium with 1 and 2 tangled up.you don&#39;t pick up 1w spots in the runoffs - what a talent.

Time for boring ride home. 

Ron

Dave G. wrote: 
> Nice day to race ;-)
> What a finish in FF... and within sight of the Checquered Flag  !!
> So nice to see the Spridgets running in H Prod... and looking sooo 
> good !
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
> '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> '76 MKIV 1500 Midget
> Age is just another number... !
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Sep 27 14:44:45 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:44:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <470950.41391.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4ABFBA86.880.11A8200@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<470950.41391.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909271344v3621a3d6je707e3ff362cfa78@mail.gmail.com>

> Reid went from 16th to 6th, got bu to 5th when rear link broke on last lap. He would have had a podium with 1 and 2 tangled up.you don't pick up 1w spots in the runoffs - what a talent.

Broken rear link? Sounds awfully familiar... must be the track ;-)
David L

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Sun Sep 27 14:49:51 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:49:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <4ABFAD8D.9020808@justbrits.com>
References: <4ABEC0ED.20090.9BE938@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<507586.48397.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W13DAF721EA8FA1CF29F736C2D70@phx.gbl>

What? No Randy Canfield????
He's been a fixture in HP at the runoffs for about 30 years.
i do remember my Dad racing against him in the early 70's.
Unfortunately whooped my Dad's butt, but Randy was better
funded and it was more of a hobby for my dad.


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:23:09 -0500
> From: sales at justbrits.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
>
> Dave, don't see any names I know, but for "HP":
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/yc3upst
>
> or
> *
>
http://ams.scca.com/netforum/eweb/dynamicPage.aspx?site=scca&webkey=9df4d8df-
a8e0-4290-9d38-527c972da9e4&evt_key=7C25D25B-CA80-4678-AA8A-2884B40B7A19&clas
s=HP
>
> **************************************************************
> All Classes:
>
> *http://tinyurl.com/y9ulff5
>
> or
>
>
*http://ams.scca.com/netforum/eweb/dynamicPage.aspx?site=scca&webkey=9df4d8df
-a8e0-4290-9d38-527c972da9e4&evt_key=7C25D25B-CA80-4678-AA8A-2884B40B7A19
>
 		 	   		  
_________________________________________________________________
Bing  brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place.   Try it
now.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_M
LOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1

From millerls at ado13.com  Sun Sep 27 15:20:29 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:20:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
In-Reply-To: <49B378BB-8A65-4A78-8DE8-521A399BF162@ado13.com>
References: <20090926221652.091E7187667@autox.team.net>
	<49B378BB-8A65-4A78-8DE8-521A399BF162@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <F2178996-6C53-4C36-A86C-C4E6CFE09BB2@ado13.com>

Of course I ment oer.


On Sep 26, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Larry Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:

> I'm told that the OCR of equal size will outflow the weber.
>
> Pierce has 45 and 47 oce's for $200 today and tomorrow at sears  
> point race track.
>
> I think if you call them next week they will make a deal.
>
> Larry miller
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2009, at 3:16 PM, "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:
>
>> Bernoulli,s?
>>       Crash
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Measurement of "Squeezedown" of airflow causing excessive "drag".....
>>
>> I just remembered...."Reynolds Numbers"!!!?
>>
>>
>> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
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From twobees at sprynet.com  Sun Sep 27 16:07:50 2009
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:07:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions Limited
 Spridget Content
Message-ID: <000901ca3fbe$f4f05e10$6401a8c0@normoffice>

Cap'n. Bob  said, "Well....maybe both effed up but IMHO, the MAJOR
efferupper was government, party notwithstanding."

Amen to that!

Are there ANY honest politicians left in D.C.?  Or, our state capitals?  Or,
locally?  As I tell people here in Florida, "In NY, NJ & CT we indict
politicians & put them in jail.  Here in FL we elect them to state office."
And, because of that driving a Spridget is unsafe at any speed on our roads.
(Spridget content)

I used to drive my MGB 7,000 - 8,000 miles a year when I lived in CT.  Drove
it all over the Northeast.  Down here I did 300 miles in 2 years.  It just
isn't safe.  But, do our politicians care?  They pay lip service to safety.
But, they refuse to look at root causes of unsafe conditions &
driving--except to make money.  One city (Port Richey or New Port Richey)
just said they are installing red light cameras to make up for the revenue
shortfall from real estate taxes.  If they were concerned about safety, they
would find out why so many people run red lights & correct the cause.  But,
no revenue in that.

Back to Bob's post.  I digress.

Bob, you may remember when airlines were deregulated.  My buddy, Chuck was
flying for Eastern at the time.  He was warning of how that would be the
death knell of fair trade practices. (Not fair-trade practices)  And, I was
more of a "Free Market" guy.  We argued back & forth at length.  Where is
Eastern now?  What has happened to the airline business & others?  Less &
less competition.  Don't like the new surcharge for flying on certain days
before & after holidays?  Tough!  Walk or drive instead.

Someone mentioned "income redistribution."  Isn't that what we have had for
the past 20 years or so?  Redistribution from the lower & (especially)
middle-class to the top 1%.  Robin Hood in reverse.  That's how I can afford
a Ferrari & an Aston Martin. (I wish.)  Well, how about an Alfa Romeo & a
Turner.  Not quite the same are they?  But, if you look at the likes of the
CEOs of the health insurance companies, if they drive an Alfa, it's a new 8C
Competitione.  Not an old one like mine.

And, (more Spridget content) be aware these same derelict politicians are
getting ready to hand over more of our hard-earned money to big business.
They are talking about increasing the ethanol content of gasoline to 20%.
Good ol' ADM.  Pols bought & paid for.  So those of us with Spridgets or,
like me, Spridget-powered cars will not only have to pay more taxes to
subsidize corn farmers & ADM, but we'll also have to spend more on our LBCs
to keep them running on that crap.

Call or write to legislators.  Tell them we're concerned about the health
care bill for our LBCs.  NO MORE ETHANOL!

Norm
'59 Turner 948-powered

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 27 16:39:03 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:39:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <470950.41391.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <954084.19683.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Let's try that again, but not on a Blackberry. I only had a few hours to be at
the track, but it was a great experience to see my first glimpse of the
Runoffs. My buddy Reid Hazelton picked up 11 spots in the Form Ford race
group. He was amazing - he picked off four guys in the first lap, and passed 2
guys in the best pass I have ever seen anyone make in Turn 6. The kid is
driving a 17 year old Van Dieman - he's giving away a ton in aerodynamics
alone. In the last lap, he had just overtaken the 5th car when a link broke
(way more serious than mine, DL!). With the 2 leaders balle dup, he would have
ended up 3rd. Oh well - he's a rookie, plenty of time to get faster. 

I also
got to meet John Caffrey - a pleasure. I look forward to seeing him on the
track and at the 50th.

Still never had a bad day at Road America,
Ron

--- On
Sun, 9/27/09, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Ron Soave
<soavero at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
> To:
"kk7ss at verizon.net" <kk7ss at verizon.net>
> Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 3:17 PM
> Reid
went from 16th to 6th, got bu to
> 5th when rear link broke on last lap. He
would have had a
> podium with 1 and 2 tangled up.you don't pick up 1w
> spots
in the runoffs - what a talent.
> 
> Time for boring ride home. 
> 
> Ron
> 
>
Dave G. wrote: 
> > Nice day to race ;-)
> > What a finish in FF... and within
sight of the
> Checquered Flag  !!
> > So nice to see the Spridgets running in
H Prod... and
> looking sooo 
> > good !
> > --
> > Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland,
WA
> > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
> > '65 MK III A-H Sprite
> > '76 MKIV 1500
Midget
> > Age is just another number... !
> >
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Sun Sep 27 17:30:47 2009
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:30:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
Message-ID: <d6d801ca3fca$8a911cb0$0168010a@mail2world.com>

These were also very popular in the '70s for converting the Cosworth
Vega from EFI to carbs.

-=Chris
Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
>Sent: 9/27/2009 8:05:18 AM
>To: breton48 at live.com;millerls at ado13.com
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
>
>Of course what you really need is a set of really rare and NLA 42
DCOEs. 
>Seen them on a Triumph.
> 
>In a message dated 27/09/2009 03:30:07 GMT Daylight Time,
breton48 at live.com 
> writes:
>
>Larry M. wrote: I'm told that the OCR of equal size will outflow the 
>weber.
>
>Pierce has 45 and 47 oce's for $200 today and tomorrow at sears point 
>race track.
>
>I think if you call them next week they will make a deal.
>_______________________________________________
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Sep 27 17:40:54 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:40:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <954084.19683.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <470950.41391.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<954084.19683.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4ABFF806.10562.20ABE97@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I was watching Reids' performance with admiration... a great drive.

The TR6 driver also turned in a great performance...

I was kind of surprised to see the Caterhams' and their ilk mixing it 
up with the rest with quite a bit of success..

As for my taste..I've always preferred racing in light rain.. 
IMHO - It sorts out the drivers from the steerers.
no disrespect intended to anyone...

On 27 Sep 2009 at 15:39, Ron Soave wrote:

>> My buddy Reid Hazelton picked up 11 spots in the Form Ford race
>> group. He was amazing


--
Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA
'06 Honda Civic Hybrid
'65 MK III A-H Sprite
'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

Age is just another number... !

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 27 17:56:17 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:56:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
In-Reply-To: <d6d801ca3fca$8a911cb0$0168010a@mail2world.com>
References: <d6d801ca3fca$8a911cb0$0168010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <967CB565D818481BA6855F42B85F5099@spider>

Was that Vega Cosworth the motor that had an aluminum block and no sealing
at the oil rings?  ...bill in oregon
===================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris King
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 4:31 PM
To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE

These were also very popular in the '70s for converting the Cosworth
Vega from EFI to carbs.

-=Chris
Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
---------------------------------------------------------------
<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com]
>Sent: 9/27/2009 8:05:18 AM
>To: breton48 at live.com;millerls at ado13.com
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weber DCOE vs OER DCOE
>
>Of course what you really need is a set of really rare and NLA 42
DCOEs. 
>Seen them on a Triumph.
> 
>In a message dated 27/09/2009 03:30:07 GMT Daylight Time,
breton48 at live.com 
> writes:
>
>Larry M. wrote: I'm told that the OCR of equal size will outflow the 
>weber.
>
>Pierce has 45 and 47 oce's for $200 today and tomorrow at sears point 
>race track.
>
>I think if you call them next week they will make a deal.
>_______________________________________________

From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 27 18:33:04 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:33:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <4ABFF806.10562.20ABE97@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <566854.66685.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> As for my taste..I've always preferred racing in light
> rain.. 
> IMHO - It sorts out the drivers from the steerers.
> no disrespect intended to anyone...

That's pretty funny - Reid was praying for rain, and was upset when it started just after the FF race. 

Ron

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Sep 27 18:33:34 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:33:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <4ABFF806.10562.20ABE97@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <470950.41391.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<954084.19683.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4ABFF806.10562.20ABE97@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <B408680E98344B3F8AFBB14492806F33@spider>

What happened to C Sedan??

http://www.scca.com/eventresults.aspx?event=13506
<http://www.scca.com/eventresults.aspx?event=13506&hub=1> &hub=1

 

=============================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 4:41 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Run-offs

 

I was watching Reids' performance with admiration... a great drive.

 

The TR6 driver also turned in a great performance...

 

I was kind of surprised to see the Caterhams' and their ilk mixing it 

up with the rest with quite a bit of success..

 

As for my taste..I've always preferred racing in light rain.. 

IMHO - It sorts out the drivers from the steerers.

no disrespect intended to anyone...

 

On 27 Sep 2009 at 15:39, Ron Soave wrote:

 

>> My buddy Reid Hazelton picked up 11 spots in the Form Ford race

>> group. He was amazing

 

 

--

Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland, WA

'06 Honda Civic Hybrid

'65 MK III A-H Sprite

'76 MKIV 1500 Midget

 

Age is just another number... !
You are subscribed as corvallis at peoplepc.com

 

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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 27 18:56:01 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:56:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <954084.19683.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <954084.19683.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <61A04E98FC714793942800834BE59FB3@HomePC>

Ron, tell Reid congrats for me.

Larry

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:39 PM
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Run-offs

> Let's try that again, but not on a Blackberry. I only had a few hours to 
> be at
> the track, but it was a great experience to see my first glimpse of the
> Runoffs. My buddy Reid Hazelton picked up 11 spots in the Form Ford race
> group. He was amazing - he picked off four guys in the first lap, and 
> passed 2
> guys in the best pass I have ever seen anyone make in Turn 6. The kid is
> driving a 17 year old Van Dieman - he's giving away a ton in aerodynamics
> alone. In the last lap, he had just overtaken the 5th car when a link 
> broke
> (way more serious than mine, DL!). With the 2 leaders balle dup, he would 
> have
> ended up 3rd. Oh well - he's a rookie, plenty of time to get faster.
>
> I also
> got to meet John Caffrey - a pleasure. I look forward to seeing him on the
> track and at the 50th.
>
> Still never had a bad day at Road America,
> Ron
>
> --- On
> Sun, 9/27/09, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Ron Soave
> <soavero at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
>> To:
> "kk7ss at verizon.net" <kk7ss at verizon.net>
>> Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net"
> <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 3:17 PM
>> Reid
> went from 16th to 6th, got bu to
>> 5th when rear link broke on last lap. He
> would have had a
>> podium with 1 and 2 tangled up.you don't pick up 1w
>> spots
> in the runoffs - what a talent.
>>
>> Time for boring ride home.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>>
> Dave G. wrote:
>> > Nice day to race ;-)
>> > What a finish in FF... and within
> sight of the
>> Checquered Flag  !!
>> > So nice to see the Spridgets running in
> H Prod... and
>> looking sooo
>> > good !
>> > --
>> > Dave G.   KK7SS  Richland,
> WA
>> > '06 Honda Civic Hybrid
>> > '65 MK III A-H Sprite
>> > '76 MKIV 1500
> Midget
>> > Age is just another number... !
>> >
> _______________________________________________
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Sun Sep 27 19:24:41 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:24:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV3B92DBB33291C2B07FDA5C8D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C6E55E69.20F0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I'm able bodied. I spend approximately one third of my gross income on
healthcare, and it keeps going up every six months. I think there's a
problem here somewhere.  BTW, I had to beg and scheme to get what coverage I
have.
BZ

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep 27 20:17:10 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:17:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <C6E55E69.20F0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C6E55E69.20F0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <C86A2C261ED646E0B8F5A1FCE23289AA@HomePC>

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:24 PM
To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net>; "David Riker" 
<davriker at nwi.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO 
Spridgetcontent

> I'm able bodied. I spend approximately one third of my gross income on
> healthcare, and it keeps going up every six months. I think there's a
> problem here somewhere.  BTW, I had to beg and scheme to get what coverage 
> I
> have.
> BZ
> _______________________________________________


BZ, that "there's a problem here somewhere" may be the understatement of the 
year.

Sorry to hear of your dilemma.  You aren't the only one.  Hopefully, a 
solution will come out of this.  It better because this can't keep on going 
this way.

Larry 

From sales at justbrits.com  Sun Sep 27 20:45:47 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:45:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions Limited
 Spridget Content
In-Reply-To: <000901ca3fbe$f4f05e10$6401a8c0@normoffice>
References: <000901ca3fbe$f4f05e10$6401a8c0@normoffice>
Message-ID: <4AC0235B.9010004@justbrits.com>

<< If they were concerned about safety, theywould find out why
so many people run red lights & correct the cause. >>

Dreamer, Norm <G><F> !!!

Or roll the red light at turn-on-red intersections, rolling
stop signs, crossing double yellow lines to advance the
position into left turn lane, finding out the ACTUAL
meanings or the words LIMITS, YIELD, STOP !!

Or at worst finding out just what "paying full time an
attention"  (failure thereof is still on most States
books).

I'll quit<G>!

Ed

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Sep 27 20:50:53 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:50:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions Limited
 Spridget Content
In-Reply-To: <4AC0235B.9010004@justbrits.com>
References: <000901ca3fbe$f4f05e10$6401a8c0@normoffice>
	<4AC0235B.9010004@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909271950h4d9dcb96x8438ed9522a2eca5@mail.gmail.com>

> Or roll the red light at turn-on-red intersections, rolling
> stop signs, crossing double yellow lines to advance the
> position into left turn lane,

Bearing in mind that these lawless activities do little to endanger
anyone and much to enhance fuel mileage and the efficient flow of
traffic.
David L

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 27 21:25:32 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:25:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cats and cars...
Message-ID: <02f701ca3feb$568c4c20$03a4e460$@net>

.they DO go together!

 

http://tinyurl.com/ydrm2m9

From sales at justbrits.com  Sun Sep 27 21:37:37 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:37:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions Limited
 Spridget Content
In-Reply-To: <402188520909271950h4d9dcb96x8438ed9522a2eca5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000901ca3fbe$f4f05e10$6401a8c0@normoffice>
	<4AC0235B.9010004@justbrits.com>
	<402188520909271950h4d9dcb96x8438ed9522a2eca5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC02F81.2030503@justbrits.com>

<<Bearing in mind that these lawless activities do little to endanger
anyone and much to enhance fuel mileage and the efficient flow of traffic.>>

"Bearing in mind" that it PROVES beyond ANY reasonable doubt
that it TEACHES (AND indicates) disdain for LAW(s).  Which
plainly 'bleeds' over to all other Laws. 

Not to mention, DISRESPECT of Law(s).

Ed

From davriker at nwi.net  Sun Sep 27 22:19:06 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:19:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
References: <C6E55E69.20F0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<C86A2C261ED646E0B8F5A1FCE23289AA@HomePC>
Message-ID: <B1AEE00BF5C14E0C9694A835A039B15A@MAIN>

The problem is very simple.  In 1950, you smoked, you got cancer, you died 
at 50.  You're knee quit working, so you got some crutches.  You had high 
blood pressure, you had a heart attack, you died.  Health insurance wasn't 
that expensive because there wasn't that much that could be done.  Today, 
you eat right, you don't smoke, so you live longer.  New, hi-tech 
(expensive) treatments have become available.  Of course amortizing the 
expense of a bunch of 81 year old people with problems that weren't 
treatable 50 years ago is going to drive the  of health care up.  Simple 
health care, like putting a cast on a broken bone, amputating a finger, 
prescribing a couple of antibiotics now and then IS affordable.  Multiple 
MRI's, exotic rare drugs, micro lazer surgery with nuclear image cameras; 
that isn't cheap.  You can't wish it cheap, you can't tax it cheap.  So, you 
can spend 30% of your income on insurance, or 60% of your income on taxes, 
pay higher prices for everything else to cover the HIDDEN taxes, or you can 
accept that there are some treatments the insurance companies won't pay for 
that will be reserved for the rich.  To remove costs you have to reduce 
layers of complexity, not add them, you need to reduce non productive 
payroll, not increase it.  Adding government is adding layers of complexity, 
adding government is adding non productive payroll.  It's mathematically 
impossible that government regulated health care will cost less.

David Riker


Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO 
Spridgetcontent


> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 8:24 PM
> To: "Robert E. Shlafer" <pilotrob at webtv.net>; "David Riker"
> <davriker at nwi.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
> Spridgetcontent
>
>> I'm able bodied. I spend approximately one third of my gross income on
>> healthcare, and it keeps going up every six months. I think there's a
>> problem here somewhere.  BTW, I had to beg and scheme to get what 
>> coverage
>> I
>> have.
>> BZ
>> _______________________________________________
>
>
> BZ, that "there's a problem here somewhere" may be the understatement of 
> the
> year.
>
> Sorry to hear of your dilemma.  You aren't the only one.  Hopefully, a
> solution will come out of this.  It better because this can't keep on 
> going
> this way.
>
> Larry
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 05:47:12 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:47:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <B1AEE00BF5C14E0C9694A835A039B15A@MAIN>
References: <C6E55E69.20F0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<C86A2C261ED646E0B8F5A1FCE23289AA@HomePC>
	<B1AEE00BF5C14E0C9694A835A039B15A@MAIN>
Message-ID: <402188520909280447k14b404b5h5b6638161fadb363@mail.gmail.com>

> It's mathematically impossible that government regulated health care will cost less.

David,
I agree with you. OTOH, you did leave out one significant factor that
the government COULD affect. One of the other contributing factors to
the cost of healthcare is the cost of malpractice insurance. This in
turn is driven by lawsuits. And it drives the industry to run every
possible (expensive!) test to maximize the CYA. All of which drives up
the cost without enhancing the benefits. Will the lobbyists let the
legislature enact the tort reform necessary to control this? Not
without a lot of civil unrest.
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 05:53:43 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:53:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cats and cars...
In-Reply-To: <02f701ca3feb$568c4c20$03a4e460$@net>
References: <02f701ca3feb$568c4c20$03a4e460$@net>
Message-ID: <402188520909280453t561872c4xc80dfe780f810797@mail.gmail.com>

> .they DO go together!
> http://tinyurl.com/ydrm2m9

But, in the time-honored tradition of the Telegraph, the photo does
NOT jive with the text. The cat was found "in the engine", but the
photo is next to the rear suspension (look at the shock and the
e-brake cable). Plus, if the guy could hear the cat whilst driving
down the road, there is no way it would take even an Austrian mechanic
three hours to get to it. And they wonder why they have a reputation
for playing fast and loose with the facts!
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 28 05:57:48 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:57:48 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <402188520909280447k14b404b5h5b6638161fadb363@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C6E55E69.20F0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<C86A2C261ED646E0B8F5A1FCE23289AA@HomePC>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W864FABF108EA919D9C442B8D60@phx.gbl>

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but I would guess that your
government would also dictate how much it will pay for certain procedures.




> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:47:12 -0500
>
> > It's mathematically impossible that government regulated health care will
cost less.
>
> David,
> I agree with you. OTOH, you did leave out one significant factor that
> the government COULD affect. One of the other contributing factors to
> the cost of healthcare is the cost of malpractice insurance. This in
> turn is driven by lawsuits. And it drives the industry to run every
> possible (expensive!) test to maximize the CYA. All of which drives up
> the cost without enhancing the benefits. Will the lobbyists let the
> legislature enact the tort reform necessary to control this? Not
> without a lot of civil unrest.
> David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 06:12:40 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 07:12:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W864FABF108EA919D9C442B8D60@phx.gbl>
References: <C6E55E69.20F0A%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<C86A2C261ED646E0B8F5A1FCE23289AA@HomePC>
	<402188520909280447k14b404b5h5b6638161fadb363@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W864FABF108EA919D9C442B8D60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520909280512t4d2f8a08p14286be34c542ebc@mail.gmail.com>

> I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but I would guess that your
> government would also dictate how much it will pay for certain procedures.

I imagine it will. However, the insurance companies already do that,
so I don't know how effective it will be.
David L

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Sep 28 08:12:41 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:12:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Softtop frame - no political content
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV14AC322F999B842C10012C8D80@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV14AC322F999B842C10012C8D80@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BB8CC0956FEB43CB906AFFCA5DEA553D@Home>

>From Frank's measurements, it appears that my softtop frame is correct with 
one small difference.  Frank measures the center fore&aft length of the rear 
panel to be 18.5" deck to center of bow where the canvas seam should lie. 
Mine measures 18.0" and the EZsofttop rear window measures 19.0".  So it is 
still not clear whether my frame is off or their top is off or both.  There 
is no evidence that my frame is bent downward, but bowing it upward a little 
to match Frank's would not be hard.  Can anyone else provide a measurement 
of the length of the rear window at the center for a top that fits well?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Sep 28 08:29:08 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:29:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] More softtop
Message-ID: <362CB0838BF34DFD9394ACEC505C06A0@Home>

I just noticed that my top rail is bowed upward about 1/2" in the center, and it seems too strong to be bend downward.  I guess it may be impossible to clamp with the rubber seal in.  Are there differences in the profiles of the top of the windscreen?  The catalogue has the same glass for all Midgets.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite
Long Island, NY

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 09:49:59 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:49:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cats and cars...
In-Reply-To: <402188520909280453t561872c4xc80dfe780f810797@mail.gmail.com>
References: <02f701ca3feb$568c4c20$03a4e460$@net>
	<402188520909280453t561872c4xc80dfe780f810797@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430909280849p24761db7pc4d7a5f94cf63a69@mail.gmail.com>

Nice to see kitty made it :)

On Monday, September 28, 2009, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>> .they DO go together!
>> http://tinyurl.com/ydrm2m9
>
> But, in the time-honored tradition of the Telegraph, the photo does
> NOT jive with the text. The cat was found "in the engine", but the
> photo is next to the rear suspension (look at the shock and the
> e-brake cable). Plus, if the guy could hear the cat whilst driving
> down the road, there is no way it would take even an Austrian mechanic
> three hours to get to it. And they wonder why they have a reputation
> for playing fast and loose with the facts!
> David L
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep 28 09:51:58 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:51:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <402188520909280447k14b404b5h5b6638161fadb363@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6E629AE.20F44%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Will the lobbyists let the
> legislature enact the tort reform necessary to control this?
Well, let's see. What percentage of our elected officials are lawyers?
I don't see tort reform in the near future.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 12:01:38 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:01:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <C6E629AE.20F44%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <402188520909280447k14b404b5h5b6638161fadb363@mail.gmail.com>
	<C6E629AE.20F44%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909281101h3d868e5bhe31280a8235def4@mail.gmail.com>

So we are screwed without benefit of intercourse.....  The lawyers are going
to see to it that we DO add layers of complexity which cost MORE money
(whether hidden or overt), maintain outrageous legal awards, and at the same
time decrease accessibility and drag the whole thing through both insurance
company bureaucracy and then a new and burgeoning government bureaucracy....

Oh Joy!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> > Will the lobbyists let the
> > legislature enact the tort reform necessary to control this?
> Well, let's see. What percentage of our elected officials are lawyers?
> I don't see tort reform in the near future.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Sep 28 12:08:45 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:08:45 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite
Message-ID: <BAY112-W5D0C90B4370B964984060B8D60@phx.gbl>

I just noticed this on the AHCSO site classifieds.



the ad:

http://ahcso.com/ForSale/Cars/Garriock/MkIIISprite.pdf



the movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116920/

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep 28 12:09:43 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:09:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909281101h3d868e5bhe31280a8235def4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6E649F7.20F52%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> So we are screwed
Exactly!  Lawyers are evil...lawyers in government are more eviler.

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 28 13:36:55 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:36:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W5D0C90B4370B964984060B8D60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <808813.83868.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Great movie - Kyra Sedgewick making out with a girl AND a Sprite in the same
movie. There was other stuff in the plot as well, but it was forgettable.

Ron

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Healeys"
<healeys at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 1:08 PM
> I just noticed this on the AHCSO site
> classifieds.
>
>
>
> the ad:
>
> http://ahcso.com/ForSale/Cars/Garriock/MkIIISprite.pdf
>
>
>
> the movie:
>
> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116920/
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From dwgwater at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 28 13:54:06 2009
From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:54:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
 Spridgetcontent
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909281101h3d868e5bhe31280a8235def4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520909280447k14b404b5h5b6638161fadb363@mail.gmail.com>
	<C6E629AE.20F44%billyzoom@billyzoom.com> 
Message-ID: <BLU147-W3234A302081327ADAC3BC9CED60@phx.gbl>

Most instances of medical malpractice don't lead to lawsuits. It's just too
expensive to sue a doctor unless the patient is really screwed up.  In the
ballpark of $50K to $100K upfront, and nothing in return if you lose.  That
tends to weed out the cases where somebody accidently gets a hole poked in
their intestine and just needs a second operation to fix it.



My wife was on a jury for a med mal case last year.  A guy fell off a ladder
and broke his wrist.  The docs found the big break but missed that one of the
little round bones in his wrist had flipped 180 deg.  When the bone flips like
that the blood vessels that supply the bone are severed and the bone dies.
Because the wrist continued to hurt, he got 6 months of physical therapy on
the wrist before they did another MRI and found the problem.



The jury gave him zero because he would have needed the same surgery even if
they had found the dislocated bone earlier.   Frankly, I have given him
something for 6 months of what had to have been very painful PT on a broken
wrist with a dead bone in there because neither of the two docs that saw him
caught the flipped bone. But juries almost always give doctors the benefit of
the doubt.  It was a tough diagnosis and an understandable mistake, but it was
a mistake.  I'm not suggesting the doctors involved are bad doctors or bad
people.  But they made a mistake and still won the case.



The real problem with the med mal system is not that it causes defensive
medicine (although the doctors are quick to say it does).  The problem is that
when there's mistake, the regular health insurance has to pay to fix it.  That
jacks up the costs and there's no incentive for the doctor to get it right the
first time.  Doctors are very quick to justify their fees by saying they save
lives and improve patients' lives, but very slow to own up to the human
mistakes they inevitably make.  Tort reform won't fix that.



The other reason people sometimes sue is they need the money for lifetime
care.  THis happens a lot in birth injury cases, where a baby is born with
severe problems that quickly use up the million dollar lifetime insurance
limit.  It's not as hard as you might think to run up a million dollar medical
bill.  One way or another, the patient still needs care for the rest of
his/her life and the insurance is gone.  So the doctor gets sued so that the
government  (Medicaid) doesn't have to pay all the bills once the person's
personal assets are gone.  I'm not saying that's right, but it's not just
greed that causes people to sue.  Sometimes they sue doctors to pay medical
bills.



Dave

70 Midget



> Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:01:38 -0700
> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
> To: billyzoom at billyzoom.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: California Ammunition Restrictions NO
Spridgetcontent
>
> So we are screwed without benefit of intercourse..... The lawyers are going
> to see to it that we DO add layers of complexity which cost MORE money
> (whether hidden or overt), maintain outrageous legal awards, and at the
same
> time decrease accessibility and drag the whole thing through both insurance
> company bureaucracy and then a new and burgeoning government
bureaucracy....
>
> Oh Joy!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
wrote:
>
> > > Will the lobbyists let the
> > > legislature enact the tort reform necessary to control this?
> > Well, let's see. What percentage of our elected officials are lawyers?
> > I don't see tort reform in the near future.
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Sep 28 15:21:31 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:21:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite
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Kyra Sedgewick making out with a Sprite?  Yuck!

What did the other girl look like?

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:36 PM
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite

> Great movie - Kyra Sedgewick making out with a girl AND a Sprite in the 
> same
> movie. There was other stuff in the plot as well, but it was forgettable.
>
> Ron
>
> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca 
> <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite
>> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Healeys"
> <healeys at autox.team.net>
>> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 1:08 PM
>> I just noticed this on the AHCSO site
>> classifieds.
>>
>>
>>
>> the ad:
>>
>> http://ahcso.com/ForSale/Cars/Garriock/MkIIISprite.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> the movie:
>>
>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116920/
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From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Sep 28 15:33:04 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:33:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite
In-Reply-To: <808813.83868.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090928213315.ECDF2187682@autox.team.net>

Totally unforgettable when driving the sprite with four people in it, really
looks like it had a back seat. Always wondered what they did with the rear
seat passenger's legs.
		Crash


Great movie - Kyra Sedgewick making out with a girl AND a Sprite in the same
movie. There was other stuff in the plot as well, but it was forgettable.

Ron

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Sep 28 15:41:33 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:41:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite
In-Reply-To: <20090928213315.ECDF2187682@autox.team.net>
References: <808813.83868.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20090928213315.ECDF2187682@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <C5A79E3E507846148BBC7E26ADE645D8@spider>

Artistic license; I think they used the back seat from a 1953 Desoto.
...bill in oregon
=============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Ramsey
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:33 PM
To: 'Ron Soave'
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite

Totally unforgettable when driving the sprite with four people in it, really
looks like it had a back seat. Always wondered what they did with the rear
seat passenger's legs.
		Crash

------------------------------------------------------------
Great movie - Kyra Sedgewick making out with a girl AND a Sprite in the same
movie. There was other stuff in the plot as well, but it was forgettable.

Ron
_______________________________________________

From healeyrick at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 28 17:02:26 2009
From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:02:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W5D0C90B4370B964984060B8D60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <799664.93806.qm@web51411.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Would buying this put me within six degrees of Kevin Bacon?

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Subject: [Spridgets] Own a movie star Sprite
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Healeys"
<healeys at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 2:08 PM

I just noticed this on the AHCSO site classifieds.



the ad:

http://ahcso.com/ForSale/Cars/Garriock/MkIIISprite.pdf



the movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116920/
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Mon Sep 28 17:19:50 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (andrewpayne at intrex.net)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:19:50 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
Message-ID: <270279919-1254179986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1336700700-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

If I recall correctly, Linda was asking about importing Ashley Hinton floors.  I just received mine from Moss, clearly labeled Ashley Hinton Made in England.  FWIT 1500 fitment.  Nice heavy steel.  I've asked before, and never had a good consensus, but for body panels, is there a difference between Moss and VB quality?
Drew
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From bjzwissler at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 17:21:58 2009
From: bjzwissler at gmail.com (Ben Zwissler)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:21:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1973 MG Midget For Sale - Indiana
Message-ID: <4AC14516.9050007@gmail.com>

Hello,

My two youngest sons and I rebuilt this Midget over last winter.  I told 
them that if it wasn't driven it would be sold.  It hasn't been driven - 
much - so its up for sale.   Its been local to Columbus IN its entire 
life and has never been driven in winter and has always been garage 
kept.  I bought it from the 2nd owner who had it since 1979 and still 
knows the original owner. The clutch went out in 1989 and it hadn't been 
driven since.  Here's the sales pitch, contact me off list for pictures, 
etc.

Thanks, Ben.....

1973 MG Midget - Excellent car, in original condition.  47,000 miles, 
600 miles since work completed.  Purchased from 2nd owner who had in dry 
storage from 1989-2008.  Original Harvest Gold paint, underbody rust 
free, very minor rust in typical spots on fenders.  Completely 
refurbished over last 12 months as project for my my two youngest sons 
and myself, but no room and it needs to go.

Engine rebuilt and hardened valve seats installed.  New exhaust with 
Sport Muffler.  Radiator and heater cores hot tanked, tested and 
repaired.  All new hoses and belts.  Carburetors rebuilt and new gas 
tank, fuel pump and fuel level sender fitted.  New clutch and clutch 
hose with rebuilt master and slave cylinder.  Transmission and 
differential inspected and seals replaced (new rubber lip seal kit for 
tx input shaft).  Brakes completely refurbished  - new rotors, hoses, 
and linings with master cylinder, calipers and cylinder seals.  Front 
suspension completely rebuilt.  Five new tires and tubes.  Interior very 
good, new carpet and dash cover installed.  All parts purchased from 
Moss Motors.  Top and boot cover not new but in good condition.  More 
pictures can be provided on request.


$6950, but will consider offers if it moves it before winter - I want my 
truck in the garage this winter!!

Phone: 812-375-0791


-- 
Ben Zwissler
bjzwissler at gmail.com
Columbus, IN
1966 Triumph TR4A
1973 MG Midget
1980 Triumph TR8
2007 Mazda RX8
2002 Yamaha FZ1
2003 Honda ST1300

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Sep 28 18:14:46 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:14:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
In-Reply-To: <270279919-1254179986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1336700700-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <270279919-1254179986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1336700700-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909281714h2d8b37a9he3ed9c45a81e4a23@mail.gmail.com>

Drew,

I don't know this for sure, but I'd place a fair sized wager that both Mo$$
and VB get their body panels from the same manufacturer. There probably
isn't an iota's worth of difference in them.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 4:19 PM, <andrewpayne at intrex.net> wrote:

> If I recall correctly, Linda was asking about importing Ashley Hinton
> floors.  I just received mine from Moss, clearly labeled Ashley Hinton Made
> in England.  FWIT 1500 fitment.  Nice heavy steel.  I've asked before, and
> never had a good consensus, but for body panels, is there a difference
> between Moss and VB quality?
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From sales at justbrits.com  Mon Sep 28 18:59:25 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:59:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909281714h2d8b37a9he3ed9c45a81e4a23@mail.gmail.com>
References: <270279919-1254179986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1336700700-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
	<43840a7e0909281714h2d8b37a9he3ed9c45a81e4a23@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC15BED.8020608@justbrits.com>

<<I don't know this for sure, but I'd place a fair sized wager that
both Mo$$and VB get their body panels from the same manufacturer.
There probably isn't an iota's worth of difference in them.>>

It is VERY tempting Jim, but I will "step out of character"
and be kind to you<G>!!

Your bet and comment are just WRONG and I DO know.
Ashley-Hinton is NOT the only supplier of panels; as a
matter of fact I can think of a quick half dozen for 5 or
6 I have encountered just this year<G>!!

You're welcome.

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net  Mon Sep 28 19:45:13 2009
From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] transport needed
Message-ID: <50038.72.71.208.167.1254188713.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net>

Hi all,
My wife just bought a 73 VW Bug in Florida. It will be delivered to the
Orlando area where my daughter lives. Now I need to get it to NH. I have a
trailer, but would prefer to avoid a round trip to FL.
Anyone know a reputable transporter or have an alternate suggestion.

I would drive my trailer down empty and come back loaded, so I also have
to find the time,
Dick B. in NH

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep 28 19:59:16 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:59:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] transport needed
In-Reply-To: <50038.72.71.208.167.1254188713.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net>
References: <50038.72.71.208.167.1254188713.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <4AC169F4.4040309@comcast.net>

lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote:
>  I have a
> trailer, but would prefer to avoid a round trip to FL.
> Anyone know a reputable transporter or have an alternate suggestion.
>   
Dick

I knew a boat hauler that wished he could come back from Florida with a 
haul.
He took local boats down to Florida for the winter.
Clark died this summer sort of sudden and I do not know who else does 
heavy hauling
But this is something to look into.
Clark's trailer was a monster, he hauled 28-40 foot boats, a couple of 
steel plates on the boat trailer and a VW will fit.
He had several trailers. Check the yellow pages.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep 28 20:10:55 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:10:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 6 LBCs in the driveway!
Message-ID: <4AC16CAF.8010809@comcast.net>

Yes tonight I had all 4 of the family's Sprites, Father Jack's Holy 
Sprite, and a crashed Mini I am working on all in my driveway or around it.
My daughter saw a photo op so we shuffled cars for an hour.
The Mini is patched but I am waiting for a new bumper, Father Jack 
needed a starter motor and his "cardinal sin" fixed.
He scrapped the front fender on a lolly column in his garage and I have 
to repaint the spot.
No dent, just his pride was hurt more than the paint I think.
Daughter's Lady Bug is getting it's 3rd engine, Engine # 2 has a bad 
wrist pin so engine #1 goes back in it until #3 comes back from the 
machine shop all new.
#1 is fine but started to smoke after about 1000 miles. It'll do til the 
Spring when the fully rebuilt and 5 speed go in.
Son's Sprite just happened to be here and my 2 are always here. Nothing 
wrong with those 3. (today that is ;)
And at the same time, the guy with the 72 Midget stopped over wanting me 
to patch up the sills on an MGB.
I told him NO! look around, I have too many projects and no room.
I still have the A40 and 3.5 more Spridgets out at the coop.
I'm glad I lost out on the free Brooklyn Bugeye. Some one beat me to it.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 28 20:28:54 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:28:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC, sort of
Message-ID: <465326.75441.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well, they used to have English Ford engines - "Supercar" Ford GT vs. Formula Ford. I've been dreaming about modern Formula Ford racing since yesterday - this is really cool at about the 5 minute mark when they do laps. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQirdJpd48M

Ron

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Sep 28 20:37:11 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:37:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
In-Reply-To: <270279919-1254179986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1336700700-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <C6E6C0E7.20F78%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> is there a difference between Moss and VB quality?
I depends on the piece. I got repair panels from Moss...left side was
British and fit well, right side was Asian and unusable. Moss offered to
refund my money, but couldn't get a decent part. I ended up fabricating one
using the other side as a pattern. In other words, Moss will give a refund,
but they make no promises that anything will be usable.
I've had MUCH better luck with Victoria British, but I get flamed by certain
list members every time I say so. I haven't gotten anything that was crap
from VB.
BZ

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Sep 28 20:55:49 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:55:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
In-Reply-To: <C6E6C0E7.20F78%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C6E6C0E7.20F78%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4AC17735.9070007@comcast.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:
>> is there a difference between Moss and VB quality?
>>     
>  I haven't gotten anything that was crap
> from VB.
>
>   
I would say "anything"  from VB, But I can say the EVERYTHING from moss 
is crap.

From PAsgeirsson at att.net  Mon Sep 28 20:55:24 2009
From: PAsgeirsson at att.net (Paul Asgeirsson)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:55:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
References: <C6E6C0E7.20F78%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <005d01ca40b0$606f2940$f675fea9@p0k7l8>

Victoria British is OK, but you should be reasonably knowledgeable about the
parts you're ordering.  Those on the phones are not necessarily car folks,
so you should keep that in mind.

My humorous experience many years ago was when they ran an ad for 3.7 dif.
"pumpkins".  So I ordered one.  I had no idea they came in sizes as 0.20 0r
0.40 oversize until I was asked that after stating my order!!  I think I got
std.!

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Billy Zoom" <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: <andrewpayne at intrex.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards


> > is there a difference between Moss and VB quality?
> I depends on the piece. I got repair panels from Moss...left side was
> British and fit well, right side was Asian and unusable. Moss offered to
> refund my money, but couldn't get a decent part. I ended up fabricating
one
> using the other side as a pattern. In other words, Moss will give a
refund,
> but they make no promises that anything will be usable.
> I've had MUCH better luck with Victoria British, but I get flamed by
certain
> list members every time I say so. I haven't gotten anything that was crap
> from VB.
> BZ
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From na7db at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 29 00:00:12 2009
From: na7db at yahoo.com (brown dan)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:00:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] transport needed
In-Reply-To: <50038.72.71.208.167.1254188713.squirrel@webmail2.nhvt.net>
Message-ID: <675887.9830.qm@web111103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi,
 
A few months ago I went on Ebay's deal that you get bids on moving stuff.  I
hired a gentlemen to move an MGB from Colorado Springs to near Flagstaff, AZ. 
The price was $450. 
 
I figured that that was a good price.  When I added up gas, motel, and the
hauling my trailer back and forth, and my time it was a very good deal.
 
The bids varied from $400 up to $750.  I had a good experience and was vary
satisfied.
 
I will try and find the web site for you.
 
Dan
 
Midget, MGB, TD

--- On Mon, 9/28/09, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net> wrote:


From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net <lindalnhvt at nhvt.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] transport needed
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 6:45 PM


Hi all,
My wife just bought a 73 VW Bug in Florida. It will be delivered to the
Orlando area where my daughter lives. Now I need to get it to NH. I have a
trailer, but would prefer to avoid a round trip to FL.
Anyone know a reputable transporter or have an alternate suggestion.

I would drive my trailer down empty and come back loaded, so I also have
to find the time,
Dick B. in NH
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From sales at justbrits.com  Tue Sep 29 02:42:06 2009
From: sales at justbrits.com (Sales at " Just Brits ")
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:42:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] transport needed
In-Reply-To: <675887.9830.qm@web111103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <675887.9830.qm@web111103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AC1C85E.5010304@justbrits.com>

<< The bids varied from $400 up to $750. I had a good experience
and was vary satisfied.>>

Open or enclosed transport, Dan ???

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

From kentmclean at comcast.net  Tue Sep 29 05:35:49 2009
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:35:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] transport needed
In-Reply-To: <mailman.10657.1254191340.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.10657.1254191340.3240.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4AC1F115.6060402@comcast.net>

Dick B. wrote:
 > My wife just bought a 73 VW Bug in Florida. It will be delivered to the
 > Orlando area where my daughter lives. Now I need to get it to NH. I have a
 > trailer, but would prefer to avoid a round trip to FL.

Fly down on Friday night, drive it home on Sat. and Sun.  Orlando
to Claremont is 1300 miles. That's 650 miles a day with 10 hour
days. Piece of cake. Pick a 3-day weekend and it's even easier.
Just bring lots of tunes.

Of course, if it isn't a driver, this may be more difficult.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Sep 29 06:04:22 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:04:22 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] LBC, sort of
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV1FAD2AB92E6003416AA20C8D50@phx.gbl>

"Well, they used to have English Ford engines..."


Fun & Games... :):)

Thanx, Ron.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 06:35:33 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:35:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Radiomobile?
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV25FF31A8EF344EF0EB884C8D70@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV25FF31A8EF344EF0EB884C8D70@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <205cef430909290535g29c8e9c6n91b0ef1b04fc6358@mail.gmail.com>

Good to know if I come across one : )
Lin

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Robert E. Shlafer <pilotrob at webtv.net>wrote:

> It's not like the early Radiomobile I had in my '58 BE or 56/60 MGA's,
> Linda but a later (70's/80's I believe?) model.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 06:43:11 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:43:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 6 LBCs in the driveway!
In-Reply-To: <4AC16CAF.8010809@comcast.net>
References: <4AC16CAF.8010809@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430909290543j46af0909nf75a7d1ea6c1395@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry I missed that beautiful sight : (
Are you going to post those pics soon?
Hey Frank do you have a Mini now?
Lin

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Yes tonight I had all 4 of the family's Sprites, Father Jack's Holy Sprite,
> and a crashed Mini I am working on all in my driveway or around it.
> My daughter saw a photo op so we shuffled cars for an hour.
> The Mini is patched but I am waiting for a new bumper, Father Jack needed a
> starter motor and his "cardinal sin" fixed.
> He scrapped the front fender on a lolly column in his garage and I have to
> repaint the spot.
> No dent, just his pride was hurt more than the paint I think.
> Daughter's Lady Bug is getting it's 3rd engine, Engine # 2 has a bad wrist
> pin so engine #1 goes back in it until #3 comes back from the machine shop
> all new.
> #1 is fine but started to smoke after about 1000 miles. It'll do til the
> Spring when the fully rebuilt and 5 speed go in.
> Son's Sprite just happened to be here and my 2 are always here. Nothing
> wrong with those 3. (today that is ;)
> And at the same time, the guy with the 72 Midget stopped over wanting me to
> patch up the sills on an MGB.
> I told him NO! look around, I have too many projects and no room.
> I still have the A40 and 3.5 more Spridgets out at the coop.
> I'm glad I lost out on the free Brooklyn Bugeye. Some one beat me to it.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 06:55:09 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:55:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
In-Reply-To: <270279919-1254179986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1336700700-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
References: <270279919-1254179986-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1336700700-@bda885.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <205cef430909290555j8f87152ja43fe030237ff149@mail.gmail.com>

Yes I'd like to hear about that too. I am not ready to start my project but
I have been buying parts here and there so I am ready to go. Ed do you sell
body parts?
Lin

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:19 PM, <andrewpayne at intrex.net> wrote:

> If I recall correctly, Linda was asking about importing Ashley Hinton
> floors.  I just received mine from Moss, clearly labeled Ashley Hinton Made
> in England.  FWIT 1500 fitment.  Nice heavy steel.  I've asked before, and
> never had a good consensus, but for body panels, is there a difference
> between Moss and VB quality?
> Drew
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Sep 29 07:03:43 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:03:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909290555j8f87152ja43fe030237ff149@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63323.76078.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Strange question.

Jay Fishbein
Walingford, CT

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>

Ed do you sell body parts?

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 07:22:19 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:22:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
	#270462874610
Message-ID: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>

Is there really a Mini called the Nimrod? That's way too funny.
ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Austin-Mini-Nimrod-50-mpg-1-of-15-worldwide_W0QQitemZ270462874610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ef8d7f3f2&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

Lin

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Sep 29 07:51:25 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:51:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <717605.96307.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I don't think you would get further than the 3rd hole before they told you to get that thing off the course.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:



Is there really a Mini called the Nimrod? That's way too funny.
ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Austin-Mini-Nimrod-50-mpg-1-of-15-worldwide_W0QQitemZ270462874610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ef8d7f3f2&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep 29 07:53:52 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:53:52 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W296DC0D2776A3523495C1AB8D50@phx.gbl>

I believe that the real meaning is "great hunter" and the slang meaning is
"idiot".



> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:22:19 -0400
>
> Is there really a Mini called the Nimrod? That's way too funny.
> ebay
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Austin-Mini-Nimrod-50-mpg-1-of-15-worldwi
de_W0QQitemZ270462874610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ef8d7f3f2
&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
>
> Lin

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 08:05:40 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:05:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
In-Reply-To: <63323.76078.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <205cef430909290555j8f87152ja43fe030237ff149@mail.gmail.com>
	<63323.76078.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909290705n5762a066te4444efae9254191@mail.gmail.com>

Probably not an ideal source for a liver if that's what you're thinkin'.


On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> Strange question.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Walingford, CT
>
> --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
>
> Ed do you sell body parts?
> _______________________________________________

From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 08:18:52 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:18:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8de85a9c0909290718kc7f98eau2f368844c1747949@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there really a Mini called the Nimrod? That's way too funny.
> ebay
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Austin-Mini-Nimrod-50-mpg-1-of-15-worldwide_W0QQitemZ270462874610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ef8d7f3f2&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
>

"They based the car off of the amphibious vehicle the military used
called the vw schwimmwagen."

I think the real question is could it be sunk in a nearby lake - err,
I mean, will it float?

If not, then by all means please remember "this car needs to be kept
in a garage to preserve its beauty."

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Sep 29 08:26:19 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:26:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <815372.42085.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

There's a reason they only made 15.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:



Is there really a Mini called the Nimrod? That's way too funny.
ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Austin-Mini-Nimrod-50-mpg-1-of-15-worldwide_W0QQitemZ270462874610QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item3ef8d7f3f2&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 09:58:45 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:58:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <815372.42085.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<815372.42085.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520909290858n2612a4dcy43fcc86adea752e6@mail.gmail.com>

> There's a reason they only made 15.

Very true. "Rare" generally means "no one wanted it when it was new
either". Think Nevada Beige MGA with red interior.
David L

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 10:26:35 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:26:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0909290705n5762a066te4444efae9254191@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430909290555j8f87152ja43fe030237ff149@mail.gmail.com>
	<63323.76078.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<8de85a9c0909290705n5762a066te4444efae9254191@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0909290926m2b3b37fbw525cfa26be815424@mail.gmail.com>

Who'd want parts of Ed's body?!  I've seen it. Stay away!!   Far away!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:

> Probably not an ideal source for a liver if that's what you're thinkin'.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> > Strange question.
> >
> > Jay Fishbein
> > Walingford, CT
> >
> > --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> >
> > Ed do you sell body parts?

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 29 10:29:05 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:29:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6E783E1.20FAB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Is there really a Mini called the Nimrod?
It must be true...it says so on the mud flaps.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 29 10:43:14 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:43:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W296DC0D2776A3523495C1AB8D50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C6E78732.20FAD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> I believe that the real meaning is "great hunter" and the slang meaning is
> "idiot".

www.biblegateway.com
Genesis 10:8-10 (New International Version)
Cush was the father [a] of Nimrod, who grew to be a mighty warrior on the
earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; that is why it is said,"Like
Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the LORD."

www.christiananswers.net
 comes from the Hebrew verb marad, meaning 3rebel.2 Adding an 3n2 before the
3m2 it becomes an infinitive construct, 3Nimrod.2 (see Kautzsch 1910: 137
2b, also BDB 1962: 597). The meaning then is 3The Rebel.2 Thus 3Nimrod2 may
not be the character's name at all. It is more likely a derisive term of a
type, a representative, of a system that is epitomized in rebellion against
the Creator, the one true God. Rebellion began soon after the Flood as
civilizations were restored.

Amazon.com
Nimrod came along two years after 1995's Insomniac and was the first
indication of Green Day's willingness to stretch the boundaries of punk
rock.

From mikey at b2systems.com  Tue Sep 29 10:51:06 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:51:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0909290926m2b3b37fbw525cfa26be815424@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430909290555j8f87152ja43fe030237ff149@mail.gmail.com>
	<63323.76078.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<8de85a9c0909290705n5762a066te4444efae9254191@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0909290926m2b3b37fbw525cfa26be815424@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1254243066.3811.278.camel@WebBrowser>

 Jim, You have seen Ed's body and you are publicly willing to admit
that ??? 

 WOW !!!


On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 09:26 -0700, Jim Johnson wrote:
> Who'd want parts of Ed's body?!  I've seen it. Stay away!!   Far away!
> 
> Cheers!!
> Jim
> 
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Jeff Foster <tr3.4.me at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Probably not an ideal source for a liver if that's what you're thinkin'.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
> > > Strange question.
> > >
> > > Jay Fishbein
> > > Walingford, CT
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Ed do you sell body parts?
> _______________________________________________
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep 29 10:51:18 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:51:18 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <C6E78732.20FAD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <BAY112-W296DC0D2776A3523495C1AB8D50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W4807580486EB2A3EBEB8D2B8D50@phx.gbl>

I'd go with the Amazon definition ... :)



Descendant of 'Ham' in the dictionary.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nimrod



> Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:43:14 -0700
>
> > I believe that the real meaning is "great hunter" and the slang meaning
is
> > "idiot".
>
> www.biblegateway.com
> Genesis 10:8-10 (New International Version)
> Cush was the father [a] of Nimrod, who grew to be a mighty warrior on the
> earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD; that is why it is said,"Like
> Nimrod, a mighty hunter before the LORD."
>
> www.christiananswers.net
> comes from the Hebrew verb marad, meaning 3rebel.2 Adding an 3n2 before the
> 3m2 it becomes an infinitive construct, 3Nimrod.2 (see Kautzsch 1910: 137
> 2b, also BDB 1962: 597). The meaning then is 3The Rebel.2 Thus 3Nimrod2 may
> not be the character's name at all. It is more likely a derisive term of a
> type, a representative, of a system that is epitomized in rebellion against
> the Creator, the one true God. Rebellion began soon after the Flood as
> civilizations were restored.
>
> Amazon.com
> Nimrod came along two years after 1995's Insomniac and was the first
> indication of Green Day's willingness to stretch the boundaries of punk
> rock.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 10:55:33 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 09:55:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
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Can you imagine going 95 mph (claimed) in that thing!

If it had wings it would fly....

Herb
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 29 11:00:43 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:00:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <C6E78732.20FAD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C6E78732.20FAD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <926810.10785.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I was waiting to see if anybody mentioned the Greenday connection... Not
surprised it was you Billy.  Well done.  
David Booker
Long Island


 
________________________________
From: Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com>
To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent:
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 12:43:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Is there
really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay #270462874610

> I believe that the
real meaning is "great hunter" and the slang meaning is
> "idiot".
www.biblegateway.com
Genesis 10:8-10 (New International Version)
Cush was the
father [a] of Nimrod, who grew to be a mighty warrior on the
earth. He was a
mighty hunter before the LORD; that is why it is said,"Like
Nimrod, a mighty
hunter before the LORD."

www.christiananswers.net
comes from the Hebrew verb
marad, meaning 3rebel.2 Adding an 3n2 before the
3m2 it becomes an infinitive
construct, 3Nimrod.2 (see Kautzsch 1910: 137
2b, also BDB 1962: 597). The
meaning then is 3The Rebel.2 Thus 3Nimrod2 may
not be the character's name at
all. It is more likely a derisive term of a
type, a representative, of a
system that is epitomized in rebellion against
the Creator, the one true God.
Rebellion began soon after the Flood as
civilizations were restored.
Amazon.com
Nimrod came along two years after 1995's Insomniac and was the
first
indication of Green Day's willingness to stretch the boundaries of punk
rock.
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep 29 11:06:59 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:06:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10909290955o47d8c5bcw9514303927456409@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
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--------------------------------------------------
From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:55 AM
To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Cc: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay 
#270462874610

> Can you imagine going 95 mph (claimed) in that thing!
>
> If it had wings it would fly....
>
> Herb
===============

If it could fly, we would need one very large flyswatter.  That thing is 
seriously ugly. 

From b-evans at earthlink.net  Tue Sep 29 11:11:40 2009
From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:11:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
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References: <205cef430909290555j8f87152ja43fe030237ff149@mail.gmail.com>
	<63323.76078.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <005f01ca4127$ef067bf0$cd1373d0$@net>

Jay Fishbein wrote:  "Strange question."

Oh, not so strange.

     http://tinyurl.com/y8q2j62
     http://tinyurl.com/yed5u4t

Of course, in China, they just order another execution.

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 29 11:12:20 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:12:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
In-Reply-To: <954084.19683.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <293851.13027.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have to say that when Road America has been discussed on this list I thought
it was mostly hype, just as  we like to brag about driving Watkins Glen or
Lime Rock.  I was wrong! This is the finest road racing facility I've been to,
and we enjoyed everything about it. I very much look forward to getting back
there with my race car. A very challenging track with an extensive history,
lots of great viewing areas, many concession stands with some of the best
track food, friendly staff, and I have never seen such interest by the local
people. It is a knowledgeable racing community for sure. Yes it was good to
finally meet Ron and have some time to talk. Hopefully he will show me some of
the fine points of driving this track one day, and he now knows how jealous I
am that he gets to drive here all the time. I don't want to ramble too much,
but I believe this is an excellent venue for the 50th Midget celebration. Now
if we could only get a vintage race group
 to share the track for that weekend all will be perfect in my world. I was
busy for 10 days and unfortunately didn't get to meet up with Roger Cotting,
but then I never found where some of our competitors were paddocked either.
I've never seen a track with 9 different paddock areas and I had to share a
golf cart with three others. BTW the driver I was helping, Dean Curtis from
East Stroudsburg, PA,  did great to finish 9th in a 44 car Formula Vee field.
One thing on my list didn't get done. I couldn't talk Dean into towing his
trailer into Chicago for some of that pizza y'all rave about. Next time!
Now I must return to a massive overload of work.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sun, 9/27/09, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Run-offs
To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 6:39 PM

Let's try that again, but not on a Blackberry. I only had a few hours to be
at
the track, but it was a great experience to see my first glimpse of the
Runoffs. My buddy Reid Hazelton picked up 11 spots in the Form Ford race
group. He was amazing - he picked off four guys in the first lap, and passed
2
guys in the best pass I have ever seen anyone make in Turn 6. The kid is
driving a 17 year old Van Dieman - he's giving away a ton in aerodynamics
alone. In the last lap, he had just overtaken the 5th car when a link broke
(way more serious than mine, DL!). With the 2 leaders balle dup, he would
have
ended up 3rd. Oh well - he's a rookie, plenty of time to get faster.

I also
got to meet John Caffrey - a pleasure. I look forward to seeing him on the
track and at the 50th.

Still never had a bad day at Road America,
Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 11:21:07 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:21:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
 #270462874610
In-Reply-To: <69D418AC81224BF89E55BC6C06B74230@HomePC>
References: <205cef430909290622h2c652ac0s73d8f755346540a6@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <43840a7e0909291021hc239cfeu3e6f40e9f39f73dc@mail.gmail.com>

I have never really understood the modern application of the name "Nimrod".
The company "Nimrod" has, for many years made boats, canoes, fishing gear,
etc. I've used their boats and they are nice boats. When I hear a youngster
these days referring to someone as a "Nimrod", this mental picture of a
person shaped like a boat pops up....  ??

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "WFO Herb" <froggi60 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:55 AM
> To: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Is there really a Mini called Nimrod?.......ebay
> #270462874610
>
>  Can you imagine going 95 mph (claimed) in that thing!
>>
>> If it had wings it would fly....
>>
>> Herb
>>
> ===============
>
> If it could fly, we would need one very large flyswatter.  That thing is
> seriously ugly. _______________________________________________
>
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not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 11:28:09 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:28:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 6 LBCs in the driveway!
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My pictures didn't come thru!
Do hope you post some.

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Sep 29 11:35:14 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo S)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:35:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
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> Who'd want parts of Ed's body?!  I've seen it. >>>

Really!!!!!   So fill us all in....  Were you sneaking around during the 
night at LOTO???  Not long ago you mentioned you had also seen my body.  Do 
we need to gather the  survaliance tapes from the hotel at LOTO to find out 
what you were really up to??  Sheesh...  Not safe even from the Grand 
Poohba???  Does Caroline know about your after hours escapades? :)

Leo 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Sep 29 11:44:34 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:44:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - body parts
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> Oh, not so strange.

Last week I chatted with a friend whose part-time retirement job is 
hand-carrying body parts in plastic coolers all over the world.  She gets 
emergency priority treatment everywhere and she does not have to return 
immediately, so may stay at her own expense if she wants.  Not a bad 
retirement job.

Michael Rowe 

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Tue Sep 29 12:08:43 2009
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:08:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
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That was the funniest line ever on this forum.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Foster
> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:06 AM
> To: Jay Fishbein
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
> 
> Probably not an ideal source for a liver if that's what you're
> thinkin'.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net>
> wrote:
> > Strange question.
> >
> > Jay Fishbein
> > Walingford, CT
> >
> > --- On Tue, 9/29/09, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> >
> > Ed do you sell body parts?
> > _______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Sep 29 12:13:43 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:13:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Hinton floor boards
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> Who'd want parts of Ed's body?!
The Smithsonian? Or maybe The Mayo Clinic.

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Tue Sep 29 12:32:46 2009
From: andrew