From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri May 1 00:21:47 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 00:21:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad In-Reply-To: <78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa> References: <49FA5086.8010108@comcast.net> <9D7B128BA9524F6B8DB1CD7657A0DF79@rwa> <78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa> Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:02 PM, 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: OK all you gun freaks out there... What was the Hyudai owner using that got off 11 shots without a reload? There are a variety of hand guns that can hold 11 or more rounds. True. That, however, was NOT the question, was it? A Beretta 92FS has a 15 round magazine, plus one in the pipe. A 93R has a 21 round mag, plus one in the pipe... Glock has several models that hold 15 to 17 rounds. In general, 9mm pistols have a staggered magazine that makes high capacity common. It is not possible to determine what manufacturer has an 11 shot capacity because we don't know that the weapon was actually empty! It may have had more rounds still available... To answer your question, the guy in the video may have been using a .22 caliber, a 25 caliber, a 32 caliber, a 380 caliber, a 5.57mm. a 7.62mm, a 9mm, or any non-NATO round of small bore that could be staggered to allow a high capacity magazine. Who knows if it had a factory magazine anyway? You can get high capacity mags for just about anything. My Sgt. back in 1981 had a 27 round drum magazine for his 1911 Colt .45 service pistol! It was hinky looking but man did it work well... Just guessing though I would say it was probably a Glock because of their popularity and high capacity stock magazines. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri May 1 01:05:44 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 00:05:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mirror for a Bugey In-Reply-To: <19633AF6399E44BCAC136EF65AED8412@CatheyBPC> References: <37dc82d40904300209l70b2f93t5396b26b2e1a8d8a@mail.gmail.com> <49FA594C.2080302@comcast.net> <3408280DB5474FC194841D404EF0665F@blackbox2> <19633AF6399E44BCAC136EF65AED8412@CatheyBPC> Message-ID: <4333f8140905010005m31a025dq1cc044f6139ffc72@mail.gmail.com> Leo, Not Phillips, Pozidrive.... Hal On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:45 PM, ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > After the loss of my computers data I am trying to re-locate some info I > need. I had info on a vintage looking side mirror that the arm for the > mirror screwed into one of the windshied upright mounting holes. (replaceing > the original Phillips head screws). Have tried to locate it by googling but > havent been able to locate it. Any one seen one also and remembers who mfgd > it and are they still available?? > > Thanks > Leo _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Miniac7 at aol.com Fri May 1 05:52:36 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 07:52:36 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Mirror for a Bugey Message-ID: Could it be a Raydot mirror, you are thinking of ? Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 1 06:20:47 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:20:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] My bullets lost at the airport In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40904301309g2923c496j88e34859abcc6567@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40904301309g2923c496j88e34859abcc6567@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm guessing that one of the reasons is that the load inside the cartridge is an 'unknown' and could result in damage to property and person. > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:09:15 -0700 > Then I asked the cop if he wanted them. .as he was carrying a 9mm. . I > think a Glock the same as mine. > > The cop cracked up telling me that it was not legal for him to take the > rounds for his own use. > > Kirk > 59 BE From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri May 1 06:37:53 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 06:37:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] My bullets lost at the airport In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40904301309g2923c496j88e34859abcc6567@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:20 AM, wrote: I'm guessing that one of the reasons is that the load inside the cartridge is an 'unknown' and could result in damage to property and person. > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:09:15 -0700 > Then I asked the cop if he wanted them. .as he was carrying a 9mm. . I > think a Glock the same as mine. > > The cop cracked up telling me that it was not legal for him to take the > rounds for his own use. Most police departments qualify with specific ammo and issue it to their officers for liability reasons. If you get caught with unauthorized ammo it could lead to discipline. -- Kent, retired cop! 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 1 06:49:55 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:49:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad In-Reply-To: <78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa> References: <49FA5086.8010108@comcast.net> <9D7B128BA9524F6B8DB1CD7657A0DF79@rwa> <78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa> Message-ID: And you expected to get just one directly related correct answer? :) Isn't the real answer '42'? ;) RD > From: 72spridget at gmail.com > > >> OK all you gun freaks out there... What was the Hyudai owner using that > >> got off 11 shots without a reload? > > > There are a variety of hand guns that can hold 11 or more rounds. > > True. That, however, was NOT the question, was it? From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 1 07:32:22 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:32:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad In-Reply-To: <402188520905010631l774a9895w9ee22c2d6c418487@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FA5086.8010108@comcast.net> <9D7B128BA9524F6B8DB1CD7657A0DF79@rwa> <78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa> <402188520905010631l774a9895w9ee22c2d6c418487@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905010632s54eacf5ag9291b7ed85e8000d@mail.gmail.com> >> Isn't the real answer '42'? ;) Darned if you aren't right, Robert. You must read books or sumpin. From grday at btinternet.com Fri May 1 07:59:14 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:59:14 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad References: <49FA5086.8010108@comcast.net><9D7B128BA9524F6B8DB1CD7657A0DF79@rwa><78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa><402188520905010631l774a9895w9ee22c2d6c418487@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905010632s54eacf5ag9291b7ed85e8000d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Nah, He's got a computer and put a lot of deep thought into the answer ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool car ad >>> Isn't the real answer '42'? ;) > > Darned if you aren't right, Robert. You must read books or sumpin. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 1 08:14:20 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:14:20 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad In-Reply-To: References: <49FA5086.8010108@comcast.net><9D7B128BA9524F6B8DB1CD7657A0DF79@rwa><78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa><402188520905010631l774a9895w9ee22c2d6c418487@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905010632s54eacf5ag9291b7ed85e8000d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Exactly right ... on the first part. I can never remember that number, so I googled 'answer to the meaning of life'. But, I did know that the answer was out there to be found. :) > From: grday at btinternet.com > > Nah, > He's got a computer and put a lot of deep thought into the answer > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > > >>> Isn't the real answer '42'? ;) > > > > Darned if you aren't right, Robert. You must read books or sumpin. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri May 1 09:58:09 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 08:58:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] It is the Dog that is good looking! Not me. . . Message-ID: <37dc82d40905010858g6ba76f77rc4cca479f8f68997@mail.gmail.com> Pic of my English Bull Terrier in Olde English White. Biggest clown my wife and I have ever seen in a canine! Kirk http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v47/75LesPaul/?action=view¤t=Toaster_Lawn.jpg From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri May 1 09:59:59 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:59:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night In-Reply-To: <129463.75425.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <129463.75425.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ya know Dave, If you let Kyle do it all, what will the others you're trying to teach learn on Saturday????? :-) Wish I could be there, but I'm going camping with my sons. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:35:12 -0700 > From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night > > About the time I got home from work last night, my friend Dave dropped by to > deliver the hoist I'm borrowing from yet another friend. Both are from my MG > Club here on the island. Dave is a very interesting guy who seems to have > made his livelihood through sports cars and race cars for much of his life. > If not making a living through them, he's certainly been around them and is a > wealth of knowledge and humor. > > I thought he was just going to drop it off and give me couple suggestions for > this Saturday when a few friends from the club are gathering here to help me > yank the engine/tranny. Well, we ended up removing the hood, then decided to > turn the car around so that it faced inwards (toward the lights and away from > any potential rain), then we thought we might as well put it up on the stands > and ramps...You see where this is going. > > My son Kyle really likes Dave, and the feeling is apparently mutual. While I > was making a couple of plates to bolt into and pull the engine with, Dave > talked Kyle through removing the fuel line, throttle cable, choke cable, > carbs, intake manifold and exhaust manifold. We all had a great time out > there till about 9:00. All I gotta do now is go buy some taps, then I (or > more probably Kyle) will remove the dizzy so's not to break it. > > Seems we're all ready for Saturday. If anybody wants to drop by let me know > and I'll tell you how to get here. You won't have to work as Kyle seems > determined to do the whole job himself. > > - David Booker > '71 Midget in pieces > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugeye15 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes2_042009 From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri May 1 10:54:45 2009 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:54:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night In-Reply-To: <49FA4B28.5000305@comcast.net> References: <129463.75425.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0904300715x415f78e9nc198cad83d43600@mail.gmail.com> <49FA4B28.5000305@comcast.net> Message-ID: On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Frank wrote: > none of you bums ever flew me anywhere I think we should take up a collection and fly Frank to China............... There are a few things he could fix in China. ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri May 1 10:56:40 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:56:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad In-Reply-To: References: <49FA5086.8010108@comcast.net><9D7B128BA9524F6B8DB1CD7657A0DF79@rwa><78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa><402188520905010631l774a9895w9ee22c2d6c418487@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905010632s54eacf5ag9291b7ed85e8000d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FB29C8.2030309@wi.net> Just watch out for the mice! Dave W. robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > Exactly right ... on the first part. I can never remember that number, so I > googled 'answer to the meaning of life'. But, I did know that the answer was > out there to be found. :) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 1 11:12:52 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:12:52 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night In-Reply-To: References: <129463.75425.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0904300715x415f78e9nc198cad83d43600@mail.gmail.com> <49FA4B28.5000305@comcast.net> Message-ID: But, where would he get the parts? > On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Frank wrote: > > none of you bums ever flew me anywhere > > > I think we should take up a collection and fly Frank to > China............... > > There are a few things he could fix in China. ;) > > Kevin V. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri May 1 11:14:34 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 10:14:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night Message-ID: <98296.87887.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> They can get their dads to show them... ;-) - David --- On Fri, 5/1/09, brian S wrote: From: brian S Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night To: "spridgets list" Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 10:59 AM Ya know Dave, If you let Kyle do it all, what will the others you're trying to teach learn on Saturday????? :-) Wish I could be there, but I'm going camping with my sons. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:35:12 -0700 > From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night > > About the time I got home from work last night, my friend Dave dropped by to > deliver the hoist I'm borrowing from yet another friend. Both are from my MG > Club here on the island. Dave is a very interesting guy who seems to have > made his livelihood through sports cars and race cars for much of his life. > If not making a living through them, he's certainly been around them and is a > wealth of knowledge and humor. > > I thought he was just going to drop it off and give me couple suggestions for > this Saturday when a few friends from the club are gathering here to help me > yank the engine/tranny. Well, we ended up removing the hood, then decided to > turn the car around so that it faced inwards (toward the lights and away from > any potential rain), then we thought we might as well put it up on the stands > and ramps...You see where this is going. > > My son Kyle really likes Dave, and the feeling is apparently mutual. While I > was making a couple of plates to bolt into and pull the engine with, Dave > talked Kyle through removing the fuel line, throttle cable, choke cable, > carbs, intake manifold and exhaust manifold. We all had a great time out > there till about 9:00. All I gotta do now is go buy some taps, then I (or > more probably Kyle) will remove the dizzy so's not to break it. > > Seems we're all ready for Saturday. If anybody wants to drop by let me know > and I'll tell you how to get here. You won't have to work as Kyle seems > determined to do the whole job himself. > > - David Booker > '71 Midget in pieces > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugeye15 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes2_042009 You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri May 1 11:21:58 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 10:21:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] It is the Dog that is good looking! Not me. . . In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905010858g6ba76f77rc4cca479f8f68997@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905010858g6ba76f77rc4cca479f8f68997@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FB2FB6.1000301@frontiernet.net> Bull Terrors (No, I didn't mis-spell.) are notorious clowns, as are their cousins the American Pit Bull Terrier. Mos all white BTs and APBTs are born deaf. Is yours able to hear? I just adopted a deaf APBT puppy from a rescue in NM. Kate Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Pic of my English Bull Terrier in Olde English White. Biggest clown my > wife and I have ever seen in a canine! > > Kirk > > http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v47/75LesPaul/?action=view¤t=Toaster_Lawn.jpg > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri May 1 11:39:35 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 12:39:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Walter on Ebay Message-ID: <004301c9ca83$ccfc67b0$66f53710$@com> Walter will be on Ebay tonight, Item number: 330326887707 Also, currently for sale in Hemmings. From rbastedo at gmail.com Fri May 1 12:37:56 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 11:37:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad Message-ID: "The trouble with most people is that they've never really understood the question..." "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." "The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair." (sounds like he owned a few British cars) "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." "Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so." "The impossible often has a kind of integrity to it which the merely improbable lacks." "Anything that is in the world when you're born is normal and ordinary and is just a natural part of the way the world works. Anything that's invented between when you're fifteen and thirty-five is new and exciting and revolutionary and you can probably get a career in it. Anything invented after you're thirty-five is against the natural order of things." "Flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." RIP Doug. RickB __________________________________ Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 11:56:40 -0500 From: David Woerpel Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cool car ad Just watch out for the mice! Dave W. robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > Exactly right ... on the first part. I can never remember that number, so I > googled 'answer to the meaning of life'. But, I did know that the answer was > out there to be found. :) From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Fri May 1 12:40:04 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 13:40:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mirror for a Bugey In-Reply-To: <4333f8140905010005m31a025dq1cc044f6139ffc72@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40904300209l70b2f93t5396b26b2e1a8d8a@mail.gmail.com> <49FA594C.2080302@comcast.net> <3408280DB5474FC194841D404EF0665F@blackbox2> <19633AF6399E44BCAC136EF65AED8412@CatheyBPC> <4333f8140905010005m31a025dq1cc044f6139ffc72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86A04514BC7742EC9B196FFA12B1BFD2@CatheyBPC> WITH THE CORRECET SLOT BETWEEN EACH SLOT") Leo ----- Original Message ----- From: Hal Faulkner To: ldsp Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mirror for a Bugey Leo, Not Phillips, Pozidrive.... Hal On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:45 PM, ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: After the loss of my computers data I am trying to re-locate some info I need. I had info on a vintage looking side mirror that the arm for the mirror screwed into one of the windshied upright mounting holes. (replaceing the original Phillips head screws). Have tried to locate it by googling but havent been able to locate it. Any one seen one also and remembers who mfgd it and are they still available?? Thanks Leo _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 1 13:13:08 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 14:13:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad In-Reply-To: <402188520905010632s54eacf5ag9291b7ed85e8000d@mail.gmail.co m> References: <49FA5086.8010108@comcast.net> <9D7B128BA9524F6B8DB1CD7657A0DF79@rwa> <78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa> <402188520905010631l774a9895w9ee22c2d6c418487@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905010632s54eacf5ag9291b7ed85e8000d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905011213570.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 08:32 AM 5/1/2009, David Lieb wrote: > >> Isn't the real answer '42'? ;) > >Darned if you aren't right, Robert. You must read books or sumpin. >_______________________________________________ prolly the whole trilogy..... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 1 13:29:47 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 19:29:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad In-Reply-To: <200905011213570.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <49FA5086.8010108@comcast.net> <9D7B128BA9524F6B8DB1CD7657A0DF79@rwa> <78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa> <402188520905010631l774a9895w9ee22c2d6c418487@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905010632s54eacf5ag9291b7ed85e8000d@mail.gmail.com> <200905011213570.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Wrong! I did the sumpin. > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 14:13:08 -0500 > > At 08:32 AM 5/1/2009, David Lieb wrote: > > >> Isn't the real answer '42'? ;) > > > >Darned if you aren't right, Robert. You must read books or sumpin. > >_______________________________________________ > > prolly the whole trilogy..... From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 1 14:24:11 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:24:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cool car ad In-Reply-To: References: <49FA5086.8010108@comcast.net> <9D7B128BA9524F6B8DB1CD7657A0DF79@rwa> <78C278223DDB46009ABCF211B7F7DC59@rwa> <402188520905010631l774a9895w9ee22c2d6c418487@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905010632s54eacf5ag9291b7ed85e8000d@mail.gmail.com> <200905011213570.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <402188520905011324w36d23aa3kf452a66c879117e4@mail.gmail.com> > Wrong! I did the sumpin. It's not too late. Go read the books. From spritenut at comcast.net Fri May 1 15:17:39 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 17:17:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mirror for a Bugey In-Reply-To: <19633AF6399E44BCAC136EF65AED8412@CatheyBPC> References: <37dc82d40904300209l70b2f93t5396b26b2e1a8d8a@mail.gmail.com><49FA594C.2080302@comcast.net> <3408280DB5474FC194841D404EF0665F@blackbox2> <19633AF6399E44BCAC136EF65AED8412@CatheyBPC> Message-ID: <49FB66F3.7020406@comcast.net> ldsp wrote: > After the loss of my computers data I am trying to re-locate some info > I need. I had info on a vintage looking side mirror that the arm for > the mirror screwed into one of the windshied upright mounting holes. > (replaceing the original Phillips head screws). Motorcycle mirror. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From bighealey at charter.net Fri May 1 16:07:44 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:07:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <307F2662F2D741358296BB8E093F98B8@TRACY> Let's fly Ed to China. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Valentine Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 9:55 AM To: Frank Cc: spridget Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Frank wrote: > none of you bums ever flew me anywhere I think we should take up a collection and fly Frank to China............... There are a few things he could fix in China. ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bighealey at charter.net Fri May 1 16:16:43 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 15:16:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] It is the Dog that is good looking! Not me. . . In-Reply-To: <49FB2FB6.1000301@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Kate, My dog is all white. Deaf as a door knob. I had to teach her hand signals. In return she scratches the hell out of the door when she wants in (her hand signals) since she has no idea she can make noise by barking. She only speaks to say good night, weird but true, a real character. Part Aussie Shepard part Aussie Sheepdog part Husky (maybe?). Anyway she has two different colors in each eye none the same for a total of 4 eye colors. I say my dog since I originally bought her from a sheep ranch/farm for my daughter (she picked her out after months of saying, "I'll feed her, I'll wash her, I'll clean-up after her). Heheheheehe right.............. All is good until she gets loose. I just grin when people try to get her to come, she just won't / can't respond to voice signals. Best listener I ever had though. She hangs with me in the garage and I tell her all my problems, and keeps my secrets. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri May 1 16:53:31 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 15:53:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] It is the Dog that is good looking! Not me. . . In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FB7D6B.8070009@frontiernet.net> Hang a cow or goat bell on the door where she normally scratches. It won't take her long to figure out that when she hits the bell the door opens. Kate Tracy Drummond wrote: > Kate, > > My dog is all white. Deaf as a door knob. > > I had to teach her hand signals. In return she scratches the hell out of > the door when she wants in (her hand signals) since she has no idea she can > make noise by barking. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 1 17:44:40 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:44:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night In-Reply-To: <307F2662F2D741358296BB8E093F98B8@TRACY> References: <307F2662F2D741358296BB8E093F98B8@TRACY> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905011644j355a77e9t36e32cb8786382e2@mail.gmail.com> Yeah! We wouldn't even have to land! Just kick him out the door at FL350! Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > Let's fly Ed to China. > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Valentine > Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 9:55 AM > To: Frank > Cc: spridget > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night > > On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Frank wrote: > > none of you bums ever flew me anywhere > > > I think we should take up a collection and fly Frank to > China............... > > There are a few things he could fix in China. ;) > > Kevin V. > Tuscarora, Pa From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri May 1 17:53:43 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 16:53:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] First call Northwest OSHIT (NOSHIT) In-Reply-To: <5D4D548CEE9B454F881747DC6316BD96@psych.washington.edu> References: <71BCF650CE254267A79BD2074FC13754@psych.washington.edu> <402188520904291040x3a83ca46y9df8adc6b8af12c1@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0904291259y6afd648ao28efad431fd97ae3@mail.gmail.com> <5D4D548CEE9B454F881747DC6316BD96@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <441250190905011653g52bd8cc2k7ad7ecb3208e67f0@mail.gmail.com> I will be there. NOSHIT is OK, but I really liked PAC (Pacific) OSHIT On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > I originally thought of Seattle Area Local Meeting Of Northwest Spridget > Handymen In Transit, but we decided on to go with NOSHIT. > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 2:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] First call Northwest OSHIT (NOSHIT) > > > Hey!! >> >> Don't forget those of us on the left coast, the Bay Area Team! >> That's right................. >> >> BATSHIT! >> >> Glen >> >> The C.A.T. I like it. So you can have a good CATSHIT, eh? >>> >>> Cheers!! >>> Jim >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 12:40 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I guess we need a Cheesehead Area Team, too? >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Their mythology starts with the false premise that these are irreplaceable geniuses Andrew Cuomo speaking about AIG executives From spritenut at comcast.net Fri May 1 18:03:52 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 20:03:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] First call Northwest OSHIT (NOSHIT) In-Reply-To: <441250190905011653g52bd8cc2k7ad7ecb3208e67f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <71BCF650CE254267A79BD2074FC13754@psych.washington.edu> <402188520904291040x3a83ca46y9df8adc6b8af12c1@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0904291259y6afd648ao28efad431fd97ae3@mail.gmail.com> <5D4D548CEE9B454F881747DC6316BD96@psych.washington.edu> <441250190905011653g52bd8cc2k7ad7ecb3208e67f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FB8DE8.5000604@comcast.net> Bill Gilroy wrote: > I will be there. NOSHIT is OK, but I really liked PAC (Pacific) OSHIT > That fits you guys -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri May 1 18:06:32 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 17:06:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] First call Northwest OSHIT (NOSHIT) In-Reply-To: <49FB8DE8.5000604@comcast.net> References: <71BCF650CE254267A79BD2074FC13754@psych.washington.edu> <402188520904291040x3a83ca46y9df8adc6b8af12c1@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0904291259y6afd648ao28efad431fd97ae3@mail.gmail.com> <5D4D548CEE9B454F881747DC6316BD96@psych.washington.edu> <441250190905011653g52bd8cc2k7ad7ecb3208e67f0@mail.gmail.com> <49FB8DE8.5000604@comcast.net> Message-ID: <441250190905011706q358ae09ancb51352de29398c1@mail.gmail.com> How would you know? You have never been here long enough to grow moss. -g On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Frank wrote: > Bill Gilroy wrote: > >> I will be there. NOSHIT is OK, but I really liked PAC (Pacific) OSHIT >> >> > That fits you guys > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > > -- Their mythology starts with the false premise that these are irreplaceable geniuses Andrew Cuomo speaking about AIG executives From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 1 19:05:54 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:05:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal Message-ID: My turn signal off finger is tired and usually does not work. So I put a buzzer across the terminals of the flasher can as a reminder. Surprisingly, the buzzer works when the turn lights are off, not on, so it goes buzz, lights, buzz, lights, etc. First question: Why does the buzzer go off when the lights are on? Surely the tiny buzzer has less resistance than two lights. Second question: I have lost all four turn lights, so the buzzer goes constantly when the switch is on in either direction. What is completing the circuit if there is no power to the lights? (Actually, I lost a lot of other lights as well, but that turned out to be a bad connection at the fuse box.) I think the flasher unit is OK as I made it "flash" the horn with a jumper at one point. Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Bugeye kit Long Island, NY From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 1 19:21:58 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:21:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <661546.84102.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In the "maybe it doesn't always suck to be me" category, I was in Italy last week on business. I've uploaded a bunch of unorganized photos, some of which are the very cool little cars of Italy. Also as a card carrying Ginzalone, I felt it necessary to take a few of the food you see just wandering the streets. I was in Genoa, and there are also a bunch of Cinque Terre, where I spent last Saturday. By far, the best business trip I've ever been on. http://photobucket.com/Soave_Italy Ron From spritenut at comcast.net Fri May 1 19:51:40 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 01 May 2009 21:51:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Turn Signal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49FBA72C.9010005@comcast.net> Michael Rowe wrote: > My turn signal off finger is tired and usually does not work. So I put a buzzer across the terminals of the flasher can as a reminder. Surprisingly, the buzzer works when the turn lights are off, not on, so it goes buzz, lights, buzz, lights, etc. > I hook up those buzzers at the dash board signal indicator. When the dash light blinks, the buzzer buzzes. If it's too loud, wrap it in some tape. You might have yours hooked to the wrong terminal on the flasher. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 1 21:38:31 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 22:38:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <661546.84102.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <661546.84102.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905012038i616fc837h9f7ed14e360f0233@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > photos... > I felt it necessary to take a few of the food you see just wandering the > streets. And just exactly how much Chianti did you consume before you saw the food wandering the streets? ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 1 21:44:51 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 20:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <993092.50051.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > And just exactly how much Chianti did you consume before you saw the food An Ed-like amount of Casa Rosso ("House Red") at each meal. Piaggio even served it to us at the Cafeteria for lunch! What a country.... Ron From conan at intrex.net Fri May 1 21:56:53 2009 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 23:56:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Much accomplished last night Message-ID: <200905012356.AA2791309608@intrex.net> per Tracy... >>Let's fly Ed to China. Thanks! I could visit my cousin, plus the sis-in-law I've never met. :-) :-) :-) The Other Ed From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat May 2 06:36:19 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 05:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Some great shots - I don't see much related to business, though. I keep hearing that we're supposed to get Alfa back here again - that would be great as they make some very cool cars. The Fiat 500 will be here soon with Chrysler badging - another wonderful thing. The Ford display at the 09 NY Car show had a Fiesta that is supposed to be coming here next year too. All cool cars. I've always loved those little Smart convertibles, though. I would love to get my hands on one of those and/or a Suzuki Cappucino. Maybe even a Honda Beat - but not nearly as cool. By the way - nice job sneaking the shots of the beautiful Italian girl and the guy who could play a part in the next Godfather movie from the restaurant... David Booker '71 Midget Long Island --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Ron Soave wrote: From: Ron Soave Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 8:21 PM In the "maybe it doesn't always suck to be me" category, I was in Italy last week on business. I've uploaded a bunch of unorganized photos, some of which are the very cool little cars of Italy. Also as a card carrying Ginzalone, I felt it necessary to take a few of the food you see just wandering the streets. I was in Genoa, and there are also a bunch of Cinque Terre, where I spent last Saturday. By far, the best business trip I've ever been on. http://photobucket.com/Soave_Italy Ron You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From smarc at smarc.net Sat May 2 07:20:53 2009 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 09:20:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question Message-ID: <49FC48B5.3070300@smarc.net> Good Morning! I got motivated to see what was making all that rattling racket from the transmission. The noise silences with just the slightest pressure on the clutch pedal So I pulled the motor and found that the hub in the center of the diaphragm springs (where the throwout bearing presses on) was loose and could rattle around. I made the brash assumption that this was the cause of the noise... Can someone confirm that this hub should NOT be loose like that? Seems like it could have been damaged by perhaps too much pushrod travel ? -- Marc From derf247 at gmail.com Sat May 2 07:25:31 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 07:25:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <49FC48B5.3070300@smarc.net> References: <49FC48B5.3070300@smarc.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910905020625k2fcbf44j3a122adc7ac8a3eb@mail.gmail.com> Yes. Check/replace your pilot bearing/bushing, too, while you're in there. From smarc at smarc.net Sat May 2 08:01:12 2009 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 10:01:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910905020625k2fcbf44j3a122adc7ac8a3eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <49FC48B5.3070300@smarc.net> <5f00d9910905020625k2fcbf44j3a122adc7ac8a3eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49FC5228.8080602@smarc.net> Thanks. So, I installed an entire clutch kit (pp,clutch disk, TO bearing) that I got from PeterC last year. The box says Powertune KT9632PT on it, but someone has handwritten HK9632 on the box. Start the engine, and after 15 or 20 seconds, start getting smoke from the trans housing. I believe it's the carbon faced throwout bearing. I've pulled EVERYTHING out and reinstalled it twice - exactly the same problem. It actually works, feels normal, and no untoward noises, but obviously something is not right. Inspection of the TO bearing shows no obvious damage. I'm at a loss... My thought is that this is an incorrect or incompatible clutch kit. Oh, one more variable, I also replaced the slave cylinder and hose when I had it apart the first time. Maybe there's some difference thats affected the push rod's effective length or travel... I'm not sure what's exactly right in terms of free play / travel on a midget... Perhaps some combination that makes the pushrod long enough that the TO bearing is dragging? Suppose I could completely remove the push rod and see if it stops smoking... derf wrote: > Yes. Check/replace your pilot bearing/bushing, too, while you're in there. > > -- Marc From soavero at yahoo.com Sat May 2 08:25:10 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 07:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question Message-ID: <704306.20966.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Spot on Marc - It should not (it's busted) and is caused by too much travel, typically. I know from experience.... --- On Sat, 5/2/09, Marc wrote: From: Marc Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question To: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 8:20 AM Good Morning! I got motivated to see what was making all that rattling racket from the transmission. The noise silences with just the slightest pressure on the clutch pedal So I pulled the motor and found that the hub in the center of the diaphragm springs (where the throwout bearing presses on) was loose and could rattle around. I made the brash assumption that this was the cause of the noise... Can someone confirm that this hub should NOT be loose like that? Seems like it could have been damaged by perhaps too much pushrod travel ? -- Marc You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 2 09:30:09 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 10:30:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> I sincerely hope that Fiat has greatly improved their quality. I bought a new Fiat 850 coupe in England in 1968. It was a POS. The metal was thin and dented if you looked at it hard. The seats broke loose from their tracks and were re-welded a couple of times until the tracks didn't work anymore. The paint was so thin in the rain run-off grooves that it started rusting within 6 months. The upholstery and carpets didn't fit well and the seats tore along the areas where they were stretched over the frames, It had a bent right rear axle which ate up tires and shocks until I finally discovered it. The wheel bearings were junk and had to be replaced at around 10K miles. The front brake rotors were so thin they warped... You get the idea... There's much, much more... I unloaded the car in Champaign, Illinois two years later in trade for a new Mercury Capri. Now THERE was a great car! Cheers!! Jim On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:36 AM, David Booker wrote: > Some great shots - I don't see much related to business, though. I keep > hearing that we're supposed to get Alfa back here again - that would be > great > as they make some very cool cars. The Fiat 500 will be here soon with > Chrysler badging - another wonderful thing. The Ford display at the 09 NY > Car > show had a Fiesta that is supposed to be coming here next year too. All > cool > cars. I've always loved those little Smart convertibles, though. I would > love > to get my hands on one of those and/or a Suzuki Cappucino. Maybe even a > Honda > Beat - but not nearly as cool. > > By the way - nice job sneaking the shots of the beautiful Italian girl and > the > guy who could play a part in the next Godfather movie from the > restaurant... > > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > > --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Ron Soave wrote: > > > From: Ron Soave > Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 8:21 PM > > > In the "maybe it doesn't always suck to be me" category, I was in Italy > last > week on business. I've uploaded a bunch of unorganized photos, some of > which > are the very cool little cars of Italy. Also as a card carrying Ginzalone, > I > felt it necessary to take a few of the food you see just wandering the > streets. I was in Genoa, and there are also a bunch of Cinque Terre, where > I > spent last Saturday. By far, the best business trip I've ever been on. > > http://photobucket.com/Soave_Italy > > Ron > You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat May 2 11:01:12 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 10:01:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Guy in the Video - 11 Rounds Message-ID: <37dc82d40905021001q915133fke681d6fc7463cd7c@mail.gmail.com> He was using a "Hollywood" gun, or "Hollywood Rounds." Typical of guns in the media, films, TV, it didn't even sound like a gun going off. I have a friend from high school who is a major film actor. . I talk to him on mail - I should find out from him how they do a scene like that. My Glock 19 - I still have the 15 round clip. . It holds 15 in the slide and 1 in the pipe for 16 to go. Kirk From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat May 2 11:05:48 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 10:05:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Guy in the Video - 11 Rounds In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905021001q915133fke681d6fc7463cd7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905021001q915133fke681d6fc7463cd7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <72906C46CEB14D2CA2B3CD363A1125F0@spider> ...then you drop it ======================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 10:01 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] The Guy in the Video - 11 Rounds He was using a "Hollywood" gun, or "Hollywood Rounds." Typical of guns in the media, films, TV, it didn't even sound like a gun going off. I have a friend from high school who is a major film actor. . I talk to him on mail - I should find out from him how they do a scene like that. My Glock 19 - I still have the 15 round clip. . It holds 15 in the slide and 1 in the pipe for 16 to go. Kirk _______________________________________________ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat May 2 11:26:10 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:26:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Guy in the Video - 11 Rounds In-Reply-To: <72906C46CEB14D2CA2B3CD363A1125F0@spider> References: <37dc82d40905021001q915133fke681d6fc7463cd7c@mail.gmail.com> <72906C46CEB14D2CA2B3CD363A1125F0@spider> Message-ID: <2F40A612-286F-4EAE-90C8-CBF2AF509481@comcast.net> .. and walk away, don't run, just walk... On May 2, 2009, at 12:05 PM, wrote: > ...then you drop it > > > > ======================================================= > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 10:01 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] The Guy in the Video - 11 Rounds > > > > He was using a "Hollywood" gun, or "Hollywood Rounds." Typical of > guns in > > the media, films, TV, it didn't even sound like a gun going off. > > > > I have a friend from high school who is a major film actor. . I talk > to him > > on mail - I should find out from him how they do a scene like that. > > > > My Glock 19 - I still have the 15 round clip. . It holds 15 in the > slide > > and 1 in the pipe for 16 to go. > > > > Kirk > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 2 11:27:48 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:27:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Guy in the Video - 11 Rounds In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905021001q915133fke681d6fc7463cd7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905021001q915133fke681d6fc7463cd7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905021027l3ffb7071md942d7ba4bbc8bd7@mail.gmail.com> I used to do western gunfight re-enactments. We used .45 LC 5 in 1 blanks. They are WAY louder than a standard round and are available in many sizes. 9mm is *very* common for the 5 in 1 blanks. They even furnish enough back gas to operate semi and full auto weapons. Cheers!! Jim On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > He was using a "Hollywood" gun, or "Hollywood Rounds." Typical of guns in > the media, films, TV, it didn't even sound like a gun going off. > > I have a friend from high school who is a major film actor. . I talk to him > on mail - I should find out from him how they do a scene like that. > > My Glock 19 - I still have the 15 round clip. . It holds 15 in the slide > and 1 in the pipe for 16 to go. > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat May 2 11:34:02 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 10:34:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > new Fiat 850 coupe in England in 1968. Yeah, but it was really, really, really cheap wasn't it? What did you expect for that price? I remember test driving the 850 Spyder in 1968 because it was the only new car I could afford to pay cash for (musician-no credit). I passed, but I was tempted. I think the deciding factor was that in road tests, it was actually slower than my '63 Renault. My Caravelle had a Weber carb, Koni shocks, Abarth exhaust, and Pirelli tires, but it was still slower than all but the slowest VW bugs. BZ From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Sat May 2 11:45:03 2009 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:45:03 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: When I was at U of Iowa in late '70's my 'poor student' car was an incredibly rusty $ 150 VW beetle. The fact that my neighbor drove a Renault Dauphine made me feel better. TuTone In a message dated 5/2/2009 12:33:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: > new Fiat 850 coupe in England in 1968. Yeah, but it was really, really, really cheap wasn't it? What did you expect for that price? I remember test driving the 850 Spyder in 1968 because it was the only new car I could afford to pay cash for (musician-no credit). I passed, but I was tempted. I think the deciding factor was that in road tests, it was actually slower than my '63 Renault. My Caravelle had a Weber carb, Koni shocks, Abarth exhaust, and Pirelli tires, but it was still slower than all but the slowest VW bugs. BZ You are subscribed as tmheffron at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 2 12:06:57 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 13:06:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905021106o7381fe90i7b7549fb85607f82@mail.gmail.com> Set up for legal entry into the US it was $2,500... It wasn't THAT cheap for its day! Plenty of other cars cost less.... Top end was 85 to 90. Not that slow! The Spyder had a 903cc engine and 49 HP. I have to say that little rear engine 850 Coupe looked sharp and was a ball to drive through the Alps and across Europe. It was just piss poor quality. But then, a friend bought the twin cam 124 Spyder and the quality of that car and all the 500s I ever saw was piss poor too. Nice styling and fun driving even though they weren't terribly quick, but the company had huge quality issues in those days. I am just hoping they are better now because I have reliability concerns about running a Fiat car in rural America. How long will they last when run here in the western High Plains at 65-70mph most of the time and 20K miles a year in an extreme climate (compared to Italy)? I guess we're gonna find out... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > new Fiat 850 coupe in England in 1968. > Yeah, but it was really, really, really cheap wasn't it? > What did you expect for that price? > I remember test driving the 850 Spyder in 1968 because it was the only new > car I could afford to pay cash for (musician-no credit). I passed, but I > was tempted. I think the deciding factor was that in road tests, it was > actually slower than my '63 Renault. My Caravelle had a Weber carb, Koni > shocks, Abarth exhaust, and Pirelli tires, but it was still slower than all > but the slowest VW bugs. > BZ > > > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From nases at verizon.net Sat May 2 12:28:55 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 14:28:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb tuning Message-ID: <9657F297-5122-4A80-8FB9-311B5C42EE5A@verizon.net> The bugeye is running but I have a problem with the rear carb. It's a 1098 with 1.25 SUs. Dwell is set and the timing is spot on. Carb linkage is disconnected and the carbs are balanced at idle of about 1000 rpm. When I raise the rear carb off idle with the front carb at idle the engine sputters and dies. Same procedure on the front carb and the engine revs beautifully. I tried leaning and richening the rear with no effect. What should I be looking to change. Pistons raise and drop freely and dashpots are topped off. I'm stumped. Almost there. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat May 2 13:41:03 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 12:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out Message-ID: <502514.1026.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, Engine is out and on the stand. Decided t leave the tranny alone after all. Found few surprises except that the distributor was in there loose to the touch. Hmmm, think it might run better when I get it back in and actually tighten it down? The cause of the noises was very apparent (and was exactly what I suspected it to be) - Throwout bearing carbon piece was in many, many pieces in the bottom of the bell housing. Yep, that would sure make an ugly sound when pressing on the clutch. In the few shifts it took me to get home once the noise started I had already begun to grind into the metal surround for the carbon material. Just went to the parts store and got a gallon of Super Clean and found a couple of neat expandy-rubber plugs I can put into the intake manifold holes while washing it all down. NOW comes the nasty part of the job. David Booker '71 0000cc Midget Long Island From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat May 2 15:23:26 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 16:23:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905021106o7381fe90i7b7549fb85607f82@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905021106o7381fe90i7b7549fb85607f82@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905021423p5dd09a8lac65e3a46133802b@mail.gmail.com> I dunno, the Fiat 500 Abarth that Clarkson teste season looked mighty attractive... I, too was wondering about the "food wandering the streets". I expected to find a shot or two of some pigs, cows, goats, or chickens (perhaps even guinea fowl) in the road, but nothing. I tried to come up with some way of tying in the girl at the cafe, but couldn't get it to work. Where are the rest of the pictures of her??? Glad you enjoyed Italia! Too bad they couldn't get you that test drive on the Ferrari track... David Lieb From smarc at smarc.net Sat May 2 15:53:39 2009 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 17:53:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <704306.20966.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <704306.20966.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49FCC0E3.1040404@smarc.net> OK, I put the car up in the air, and peeking through the inspection port, I can see that the TO bearing is touching the hub of the diaphragm. It don't think theres much pressure on it, but perhaps ANY is too much? Should there be a gap there? If so, how much? I don't want to blindly start hacking away at the push rod... Ron Soave wrote: > Spot on Marc - It should not (it's busted) and is caused by too much travel, > typically. I know from experience.... > > --- On Sat, 5/2/09, Marc wrote: > > From: Marc > Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 8:20 AM > > Good Morning! > > I got motivated to see what was making all that rattling racket from the > transmission. The noise silences with just the slightest pressure on the > clutch pedal So I pulled the motor and found that the hub in the center of the > diaphragm springs (where the throwout bearing presses on) was loose and could > rattle around. I made the brash assumption that this was the cause of the > noise... > > Can someone confirm that this hub should NOT be loose like that? > > Seems like it could have been damaged by perhaps too much pushrod travel ? > > -- > > -- Marc From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon May 4 10:32:26 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 09:32:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] List - Did You See This LBC Split Down the Middle? Message-ID: <37dc82d40905040932s6bd63b2dx5dfe9d61f173c328@mail.gmail.com> Guy did a great job. . not so sure I like the wider look though. . Check it out. . http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Triumph-TR3-Plus-4.htm Kirk 59 BE From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat May 2 20:55:52 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 21:55:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now this is a truly evil part to replace In-Reply-To: <49FCC0E3.1040404@smarc.net> References: <704306.20966.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49FCC0E3.1040404@smarc.net> Message-ID: <36EF9292B15A4697B1689FF18928823C@BASEMENTDELL> I started the weekend well... New front shocks and calipers and other odds and ends. Nice. Make some mods and install an alternator and get to use an air grinder. Neat! And predictable. Wrenches/sockets fit and do their thing. Things fit. Then I went to replace the cooling system valve from the block. The thing you can feel on a 1098 to the right of the carbs, and in my case, sort of works like a thermostat where it shouldn't Who the foxtrot uniform charlie kilo designed this thing? Can't get a usual wrench on this thing, can't even turn it a flat with the carbs on. Tried from the bottom. Nope. Should I grind down a good wrench? Use a needle nose (real) vice grip? Ripped the good and synched carbs off and have at it. Got the old one off and replaced it with the new nice shiny one a flat at a time. Redid the process after seeing the bright and laughing copper crush washer I forgot to install. Sorry, had to rant. Call me tomorrow to hear the hiss in the tubes while I synch this thing again. Chris And of course I'll be back for more abuse from it. From mikey at b2systems.com Mon May 4 13:34:19 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 12:34:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> <1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser> <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1241465659.32396.41.camel@WebBrowser> > Well, I hope you are right, Mike. Even at that though, I wonder if > Fiat has any understanding of the type of vehicle needed by people in > rural America. I cannot imagine a Fiat that would be of use on a farm > or somewhere where one has to travel 100 to 200 miles every day to > conduct their business. How would they hold up to that kind of use? > I actually think the modern Fiat would hold up just fine BUT I also see it failing miserably in the U.S. anyway. Too many people swear they will never own a Fiat again, too many bad memories and they just are not willing to give Fiat another try. I was talking with friends this weekend who would not even buy a Chrysler if they will be associated with Fiat they are that biased against Fiats that they don't want anything to do with them and I think that is a prevalent thought in the U.S. which will cause Fiat to fail again in the U.S. Of course they all want a ride in the Dino so maybe there is hope :) Mike From davegran at tds.net Mon May 4 07:24:01 2009 From: davegran at tds.net (Dave Grandeffo) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 08:24:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <49FEEC71.7000904@tds.net> Billy Zoom wrote: > new Fiat 850 coupe in England in 1968. > > Yeah, but it was really, really, really cheap wasn't it? > What did you expect for that price? > I remember test driving the 850 Spyder in 1968 because it was the only new > car I could afford to pay cash for (musician-no credit). > BZ > My future wife bought a dark blue 850 Coupe around that same time because it was recommended by me and even less expensive than the spyder; around $1700 and change as I recall. The pressure plate went out under warranty and then later the head gasket, which I replaced for her. It was fun to drive, fuel efficient, and handled well until a distracted big yellow school bus driver rear ended me at a stop sign a few years later. All that thin sheet metal crumpled perfectly and it gave up its life for me. What more could I ask? Oh, I also put a white racing stripe on it for her.... -- Dave Grandeffo From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 4 09:15:56 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 11:15:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but still cool..........MATE ROV youtube Message-ID: <205cef430905040815k41843beau737a300b666fe5a2@mail.gmail.com> Our school robot preforming a task. Enjoy Lin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9-rFsZWzbs&feature=email From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 3 09:36:20 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 10:36:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <167762.72299.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <167762.72299.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905030836q360df5e6k14d5f0f8ced4e030@mail.gmail.com> There's a huge difference between "inexpensive" and "cheap". Fiat does so well in Europe because it makes a vehicle which Europeans can afford to buy. Europeans that need a quality vehicle buy an Audi, BMW or Mercedes. Europeans generally take far better car of their vehicles than Americans do and put far fewer miles on them as well. They can get by with poor Fiat quality. To many Europeans, a car has almost always been a luxury item. Even a small cheaply made one. Stop and think about it. Why did Fiat cars never really do well in the US like VW has? When was the last time you saw a traveling salesman or farmer driving a Fiat? The quality of the vehicle is the reason. They can't stand up to the abuse they get in this country and they can't pass the crash tests because they are too cheaply made. The Volkswagon Beetle is inexpensive. The Fiat is CHEAP. But, never fear, the agreement with Chrysler is being touted as Fiat providing Chrysler with their "small car technology and experience (read: cheap crap)." A company that was near bankruptcy two years ago because it sells crap and has no experience with the American car market is now helping one that is in bankruptcy today due to collapse of the credit system and the banks. Chrysler knows how to make quality cars and trucks for the American market. Fiat doesn't. We are being sold a joke by do-gooders who wouldn't know a quality car from a potted plant. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 5:47 AM, David Booker wrote: > > --- On *Sat, 5/2/09, Duncan Sinclair * wrote: "Well > Jim I drove a Fiat Panda in the UK in the late 80's and it definitely was > still a POC. > > I've rented a few Fiats (Pandas among them) over recent years in England > and they've all been great little cars. Fuel efficient, fast enough to merge > and cruise without problems, and fun to drive. I obviously have no > experience with how they hold up over time, but Fiat is one of the biggest > manufacturers anywhere so they must be doing something right. Keep in mind > that inexpensive cars are built inexpensively. > > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From thcollin at mtu.edu Sun May 3 19:45:28 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 21:45:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal w/tranny Message-ID: <7lku3e$63ghp1@email.mtu.edu> There has been some recent notes about pulling an engine with and without the tranny. I removed my engine w/ the tranny to replace the transmission tail shaft seal. I took it out by attaching a chain to each of the rocker cover bolts. That was cumbersome. To put the engine back in I thought about buying an engine leveler, but after reading user reviews I found that the reviews were mixed. So I welded up a "T" cross section lifting bar and used just one chain to suspend the engine. I found that setup worked quite well when putting the engine back in. The engine was very easily maneuvered on the single chain. I added a pic to my album listed below. The suspension point is about 2-3/8" behind the front rocker cover bolt. A bit closer to the front would be better - just a little bit better. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From frog.aye at gmail.com Sat May 2 19:06:08 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:06:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140905021806m6d88d27bh7e4d1b49efed6c43@mail.gmail.com> Me? I'm holdin' out for that new FIAT Viper. Hal From mikey at b2systems.com Mon May 4 11:03:03 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 10:03:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser> On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 10:30 -0500, Jim Johnson wrote: > I sincerely hope that Fiat has greatly improved their quality. I bought a > new Fiat 850 coupe in England in 1968. It was a POS. The metal was thin and Of course they have greatly improved their quality. I only sold my 1973 Fiat a few months ago, I bought it brand new in 1974 and never had a issue with it, never left me on the side of the road ever ! I owned a 1990 Toyota that I bought new in 90 that gave me more trouble in 4 years that I owned it then my Fiat gave me in 34 years. The 850 you had was the lowest priced car Fiat sold, poorest quality of all their models, my 68 Dino is awesome and that was the top of the line in those days. Yeah with 2 Fiats in the garage you can guess I am a Fiat guy but I have had 850's and compared to the Dino they were junk. Fiat really did build a good car even back then, its just that back then they built quality according to the price tag, high price, high quality, low price, absolute garbage. Most auto manufacturers did that in those days. Nowdays, Fiat will easily compare with Honda or even Ford or Chevy, they are all that good now. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Tue May 5 13:15:56 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:15:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <1241465659.32396.41.camel@WebBrowser> References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com><1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser><43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> <1241465659.32396.41.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: I was actually thinking that with Fiat involved, I might have a reason to buy a Chrysler;) Besides, wasn't Hyundai crap? And Kia was the low rent Hyundai? Oh and remember the salesmen that used to say, "Miata buy a Mustang!!!" What shocks me is that a Fiat connection could somehow devalue the Chrysler brand. Yes, they make some interesting vehicles, but most are fleet lot filler material. Fiat's 500 is way cool, and their sedans and vans are interesting and different. Currently, different is King. Look at what is selling at anything near profitable prices, Scion, Mini, Subaru, Honda Fit. Many of the buyers of these cars are too young to remember "Fix It Again Tony" as anything more than a nationalistic mantra, and have instead grown up with subpar build quality from the domestics. I can see great potential for the entire Fiat line here, perhaps as a hip boutique brand of the pentastar. May I also remind the group that we love our MGs and defend their quality and reliability to all that swear the British only make bad food and worse cars. Do I need to take the comparison further? Drew -----Original Message----- I actually think the modern Fiat would hold up just fine BUT I also see it failing miserably in the U.S. anyway. Too many people swear they will never own a Fiat again, too many bad memories and they just are not willing to give Fiat another try. I was talking with friends this weekend who would not even buy a Chrysler if they will be associated with Fiat they are that biased against Fiats that they don't want anything to do with them and I think that is a prevalent thought in the U.S. which will cause Fiat to fail again in the U.S. Of course they all want a ride in the Dino so maybe there is hope :) Mike _______________________________________________ From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon May 4 12:18:15 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 18:18:15 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bonnet alignment again Message-ID: <20090504.121815.26120.0@webmail09.dca.untd.com> I changed the bonnet hinges on the '58, it looks better now, but the gap at the scuttle (cowl panel) is ~1/4" all of the way across and at the bottom by the rocker the gap is ~9/16". The bumpers are squished and aged (surprise!)and I cannot get the latch plates far enough forward to get the locking pins to engage. I don't have the packing between the hinges and the bonnet. Are the squished bumpers keeping the bonnet from pivoting down into place? BTW the locating pins don't either- I've removed them until I can get it to latch at least. If I move the bonnet back any more it hits the scuttle when I open the bonnet. Now I know what some of the advantages of a forward tilting bonnet are! Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Click here to become a professional counselor in less time than you think. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxaLhB81VK1tgmTtZmm5koq3Q kKLPRa0l2fAUTJiWr4N00nKhsXfji/ From nases at verizon.net Tue May 5 13:27:57 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 15:27:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] steering wheel and hub adaptor Message-ID: <9FEC5CC8-2375-4CEF-B91B-8B4434ACA8AC@verizon.net> I'm looking for a 12" steering wheel and hub adaptor to fit a stock steering column on a bugeye. Does anyone have a source I can check? The vendors can't seem to tell me if the hub adaptors will match the bugeye splines. I know there's a vendor at Carlisle each year. I don't know there name. Anyone use them? Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue May 5 13:32:56 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 12:32:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal w/tranny References: <7lku3e$63ghp1@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4FC40DEF9D0747128DA46A181FD09991@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I attach a three foot piece of stout chain to the rear manifold stud and to the alternator mounting ear of the water pump. I lay the chain into the hook of the cable winch so that the hook is just about over the #2 cylinder. I'm able to pull the engine/tranny/driveshaft alone easily, and able to replace the whole thing alone without too much grunting. I steady the engine/tranny with the left hand, and tug the car forward a bit at a time, pausing to lower the engine a few clicks each time until its in. Glen > There has been some recent notes about pulling an engine with and without > the tranny. I removed my engine w/ the tranny to replace the transmission > tail shaft seal. I took it out by attaching a chain to each of the rocker > cover bolts. That was cumbersome. To put the engine back in I thought > about buying an engine leveler, but after reading user reviews I found > that the reviews were mixed. So I welded up a "T" cross section lifting > bar and used just one chain to suspend the engine. I found that setup > worked quite well when putting the engine back in. The engine was very > easily maneuvered on the single chain. I added a pic to my album listed > below. The suspension point is about 2-3/8" behind the front rocker cover > bolt. A bit closer to the front would be better - just a little bit > better. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 5 13:43:42 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:43:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> <1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser> <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> <1241465659.32396.41.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905051243w38b624cayb1316afad5189850@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > May I also remind the group that we love our MGs and defend their quality > and reliability to all that swear the British only make bad food and worse > cars. Do I need to take the comparison further? Am I the only honest man on the list?? I tell people that I love my Midget to drive and it gives me many more hours of entertainment in the garage than it does on the road. Spridgets were the El Cheapo sports cars of their day, but they, like the Fiat 850 Coupe I owned are a ball to drive. No way do I pretend that Spridgets are known for either reliability or quality. They are, however, known for *fun*!! My original argument was aimed more at an auto manufacturer with no experience in such a venture trying to produce a rugged and utilitarian vehicle for general use in America. Fiat has plenty of experience with producing city cars and sports (think: Dino & Abarth) cars but they have absolutely no experience producing vehicles like the Dodge Challenger, the Dodge Charger, and the Dodge Ram trucks which are ubiquitous across much of America. As I said before. The Fiat 500 is a cool little car and probably fun to drive. But it ain't gonna haul two round bales 1/2 mile across the dirt roads on the ranch to feed the cattle and it ain't gonna last long at the rate of 30K miles annually in rural America. And THAT is why a Chrysler Corp. managed by Fiat will loose a large part of their market. -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue May 5 13:46:38 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 14:46:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] list Message-ID: <4A00979E.3020309@wi.net> Hey! Where you guys been? We haven't received any list mail since 5/2. Was there a midwest blackout?? Warped minds need to know! Maybe the Cheddar Curtain got pulled down. Dave W. Burlington WI From dwoerpel at wi.net Sun May 3 10:37:18 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 11:37:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wisconsin AUCTION Message-ID: <49FDC83E.3040003@wi.net> For those of you in or near SE Wisconsin. My daughter-in-law sent me the following auction notice and I'm just passing it on. http://www.chuillisauction.com/auction.php?action=get&id=342 The Bugeye looks to be fairly original form the pic. It has a wooden steering wheel but the rearview mirror caught my eye. My Bugeye had the same mirror when I got it. When I restored it to "as original" I put on the cheapo mirror with the clamp mounting. Now I'm wondering if the other mirror wasn't original to the car; perhaps dealer added? Just another of those mysteries that makes these car so interesting for us "historians". BTW, The 1968 MG Midget in the auction looks a lot like a MGB. I may get to the auction ad check it out. Some interesting guns also. I particularly like the Krag. Have fun! Dave W. From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 5 13:49:43 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 12:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <61731.38997.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> It wasn't that long ago that some Chryslers had a zipper on the transmission they were being replaced so often. As a friend of mine in charge of a fleet of Chryslers at his company remarked: "Aren't you supposed to change transmissions every 20,000 miles?" Unless someone could offer some actual hard information, everything negative about Fiat that has mentioned here has been anecdotal. Like many brands from years past that suffered in the US market, Fiat never had a solid dealer network or at the very least a support network of mechanics with experience, both inside and outside of the dealers. As much as I like cars, I think our economy has been overly dependent on them. And our current economy is painfully making that point evident. People generally purchase new cars out of desire, rather than need and right now, there are few buyers because people just don't NEED new cars. What I find ironic is that the people that supported the American car manufacturers with their purchases of Hummers, MiniVans, Chevy Suburbans, Cadillac and Lincoln trucks, and so-on, (without a genuine need for those large vehicles) are now nowhere to be found. jay fishbein wallingford, ct --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Andrew Payne wrote: From: Andrew Payne Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) To: "'mike rambour'" , "'Jim Johnson'" Cc: "'Spridgets'" Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 3:15 PM I was actually thinking that with Fiat involved, I might have a reason to buy a Chrysler;) From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue May 5 14:12:43 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:12:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal w/tranny In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$63ghp1@email.mtu.edu> References: <7lku3e$63ghp1@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Anyone have any thoughts on how this would compare to two nylon straps to a central hook, which I have seen in a lot of pictures? Michael Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy H. Collins" To: Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 9:45 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Engine removal w/tranny > There has been some recent notes about pulling an engine with and without > the tranny. I removed my engine w/ the tranny to replace the transmission > tail shaft seal. I took it out by attaching a chain to each of the rocker > cover bolts. That was cumbersome. To put the engine back in I thought > about buying an engine leveler, but after reading user reviews I found > that the reviews were mixed. So I welded up a "T" cross section lifting > bar and used just one chain to suspend the engine. I found that setup > worked quite well when putting the engine back in. The engine was very > easily maneuvered on the single chain. I added a pic to my album listed > below. The suspension point is about 2-3/8" behind the front rocker cover > bolt. A bit closer to the front would be better - just a little bit > better. > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 4 13:19:07 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:19:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser> References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> <1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:03 PM, mike rambour wrote: > On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 10:30 -0500, Jim Johnson wrote: > > I sincerely hope that Fiat has greatly improved their quality. I bought > a > > new Fiat 850 coupe in England in 1968. It was a POS. The metal was thin > and > > Of course they have greatly improved their quality. I only sold my > 1973 Fiat a few months ago, I bought it brand new in 1974 and never had > a issue with it, never left me on the side of the road ever ! I owned a > 1990 Toyota that I bought new in 90 that gave me more trouble in 4 years > that I owned it then my Fiat gave me in 34 years. > > The 850 you had was the lowest priced car Fiat sold, poorest quality of > all their models, Naw. The 500 was far cheaper and smaller. I paid $2,500 for the 850 Coupe in 1968. > my 68 Dino is awesome and that was the top of the line > in those days. Yeah with 2 Fiats in the garage you can guess I am a > Fiat guy but I have had 850's and compared to the Dino they were junk. > Fiat really did build a good car even back then, its just that back then > they built quality according to the price tag, high price, high quality, > low price, absolute garbage. Most auto manufacturers did that in those > days. > > Nowdays, Fiat will easily compare with Honda or even Ford or Chevy, > they are all that good now. Well, I hope you are right, Mike. Even at that though, I wonder if Fiat has any understanding of the type of vehicle needed by people in rural America. I cannot imagine a Fiat that would be of use on a farm or somewhere where one has to travel 100 to 200 miles every day to conduct their business. How would they hold up to that kind of use? -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun May 3 19:58:54 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 18:58:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The New Generation Message-ID: My son Justin (19 this month) and I just got back from the British Extravaganza at Buttonwillow raceway. There were VARA races and a car show for British cars this weekend, the 14th annual. My Bugeye took 2nd place in the Sprite/Midget category among 3 nice Bugeyes. The guy with the Bugeye on the cover of the Moss Motors catalog (the siver car with the number 59) took first place. The point is, I let my son drive the Bugeye for the first time this weekend. He drove it around the pit area and got to drive it around the track! I could not get him out of it. Well, chalk another convert to LBCs. He says it's more fun to drive than his Acura Integra (something most of knew already) and he is looking forward to next year or the next meet. He said it was too bad the Bugeye could not be a daily driver. I proceeded to explain that it was for me back in 1971. I think he has the fever and I may be looking for a Bugeye or Midget project car soon. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue May 5 14:22:30 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 16:22:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] list In-Reply-To: <4A00979E.3020309@wi.net> References: <4A00979E.3020309@wi.net> Message-ID: <6BDDCA9689554E60968142F3E7685B44@Home> I think we finally offended the list admin. too many times. He gave up in disgust. Michael Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "SPRIDGETS" Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:46 PM Subject: [Spridgets] list > Hey! Where you guys been? We haven't received any list mail since 5/2. > Was there a midwest blackout?? > Warped minds need to know! Maybe the Cheddar Curtain got pulled down. > > Dave W. > Burlington WI > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From biffjones at verizon.net Tue May 5 14:24:49 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:24:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import & Kit Car Meet Message-ID: Now that the spridgets list is back up and running I'm resending this email. Before I make any reservations for the Carlisle Import & Kit Car Meet, I thought I would bomb the list to see if anyone has a room and needs someone to help lower the cost or would be interested in sharing a room with me. There has been no talk of the meet that I've seen on the list and was wondering if anyone is planning to attend. The dates are May 15 - 18, 2009. I have my reservation for the show field but haven't made any room reservations yet. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite http://sprites2.homestead.com/ [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.18/2098 - Release Date: 05/05/09 08:05:00 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue May 5 14:33:29 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <671150.99000.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Jim Johnson wrote: "But it ain't gonna haul two round bales 1/2 mile across the dirt roads on the ranch to feed the cattle and it ain't gonna last long at the rate of 30K miles annually in rural America" Jim, that is absolutely true. BUT it is also true that you can still drive through much of the heart of his country and not see an import for hours at a time (at least not driven by a local). Imports have never been popular except in the "smile" pattern map of the U.S. (left and right coasts and around the bottom) I don't see that changing. However - you can't step outside here in NY without seeing three or four Smart cars and even more Scions, Yaris', SX4's, Minis, etc. I think Fiat has made some huge changes since they left this market and I'm personally excited to try one out again. I'm not in the market for another car just yet, but the 500 - especially if we get some kind of Abarthed-up option - will definitely be on my short list when the time comes. - David Booker Midget, Mini, Protege (and Sportster) Long Island From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 5 14:37:11 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The New Generation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <827978.68275.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> That "airport racer" might be a nice restoration, but it is suffering from overexposure. It is becoming the Brangelina of the Sprite world. jay fishbein --- On Sun, 5/3/09, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote: From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com Subject: [Spridgets] The New Generation To: "Spridget" Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 9:58 PM The guy with the Bugeye on the cover of the Moss Motors catalog (the siver car with the number 59) took first place. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue May 5 14:37:59 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but still cool..........MATE ROV youtube In-Reply-To: <1690880275.2382341241555834805.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1826636396.2383081241555879598.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> http://davidbuckley.net/DB/HistoryMakers.htm#TimTurtle timothy turtle circa 1953 was made by my grandfather and thats my mom as a little girl posing with it.. ItB suffered a fatal crash one day when inst ead of following the flashlightB it followed a brighter light source (the sun) down a flight of hard wood stairs. Today I run high throughput screening in the pharma industry for Johnson and johnson utilizing no less than 10 robotic system s a day. keeping it in the family..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget list" Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 11:15:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but still cool..........MATE ROV youtube Our school robot preforming a task. Enjoy Lin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9-rFsZWzbs&feature=email From andrewpayne at intrex.net Tue May 5 14:39:14 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:39:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <200905052039.n45Kd8Jf007505@txslsmtp1.vzwmail.net> I'm not saying that MGs are bullet proof daily drivers, just that only few caught fire leaving the dealership, etc. There are easily as many stigmas against BL as Fiat. All joking aside, my 76 Midget was more reliable than the 87 F250 I drove at the same time. By the way the 500 shares underpinnings with the Ford Ka. The Ka is a perinial favorite in Europe, much like the old Fiesta. I see many of them still on the roads, some actually driven by farmers. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 3:43 PM To: Andrew Payne Cc: mike rambour ; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: May I also remind the group that we love our MGs and defend their quality and reliability to all that swear the British only make bad food and worse cars. Do I need to take the comparison further? Am I the only honest man on the list?? I tell people that I love my Midget to drive and it gives me many more hours of entertainment in the garage than it does on the road. Spridgets were the El Cheapo sports cars of their day, but they, like the Fiat 850 Coupe I owned are a ball to drive. No way do I pretend that Spridgets are known for either reliability or quality. They are, however, known for *fun*!! My original argument was aimed more at an auto manufacturer with no experience in such a venture trying to produce a rugged and utilitarian vehicle for general use in America. Fiat has plenty of experience with producing city cars and sports (think: Dino & Abarth) cars but they have absolutely no experience producing vehicles like the Dodge Challenger, the Dodge Charger, and the Dodge Ram trucks which are ubiquitous across much of America. As I said before. The Fiat 500 is a cool little car and probably fun to drive. But it ain't gonna haul two round bales 1/2 mile across the dirt roads on the ranch to feed the cattle and it ain't gonna last long at the rate of 30K miles annually in rural America. And THAT is why a Chrysler Corp. managed by Fiat will loose a large part of their market. -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From breton48 at live.com Tue May 5 14:39:29 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:39:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> <1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser> <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Spridgeteers.... I never had a Fiat, but have ridden in quite a few in Europe. Yes, the 1960 and 1970s Fiat were tinny and not always reliable. I could say the same of many British and French cars I owned at the time. Somebody mentioned a "20,000 miles transmission car". My second Spridget was such a car - I replaced the transmission after 21,000 miles, and the next "Gold Seal" transmission lasted less than 25,000 miles. I had no such problem with my first Spridget though - go figure! In the twenty years and over thirty cars I owned in England, the most reliable one was a 1985 Peugeot 205 GTI. Lots of fun to drive too! The worst was a Skoda - got it really cheap though - 20 pounds back in 1975 or 1976! The most fun to drive were the Spridgets (both with 1275 engine), the RS Escorts, and RS Capris (I had several of them). For those who may not know - Fiat owns Alfa Romeo and Ferrari, Iveco (big trucks, selling well in Europe), and they also manufacture many tractors sold throughout the world, including the USA - New Holland, which used to be Ford, was sold to Fiat many years ago. JLC From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 5 14:39:39 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <671150.99000.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <10230.87305.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I could be wrong but I'm not under the impression that Chrysler's mission is going to be converted into producing Abarth inspired farm tractors and 850-based 1 ton diesel pickups. jay fishbein wallingford, ct --- On Tue, 5/5/09, David Booker wrote: From: David Booker Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) To: "Andrew Payne" , "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 4:33 PM --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Jim Johnson wrote: "But it ain't gonna haul two round bales 1/2 mile across the dirt roads on the ranch to feed the cattle and it ain't gonna last long at the rate of 30K miles annually in rural America" Jim, that is absolutely true. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue May 5 14:42:13 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:42:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com><1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser> <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <652D26D50AE9435EA4A0F55E20189CC8@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I don't know jack about the statistics, but isn't the family car or city sedan the biggest market compared to the rural hay-hauling market? I live in a city of over 50000 and VERY few of them need a big farm vehicle. To the extnet that Chrysler has ignored the smaller car market, they brought some of their troubles on themselves. Looking at this country's demographics, a car company that makes only trucks and big-a** SUVs isn't thinking very clearly. The events of the last year have made any argument on this issue moot. Glen > Well, I hope you are right, Mike. Even at that though, I wonder if Fiat > has > any understanding of the type of vehicle needed by people in rural > America. > I cannot imagine a Fiat that would be of use on a farm or somewhere where > one has to travel 100 to 200 miles every day to conduct their business. > How > would they hold up to that kind of use? > -- > Cheers!! > Jim From davriker at nwi.net Sat May 2 17:16:27 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 16:16:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <09D718C1D139475AACAEC78E3980ADA7@MAIN> Two years ago, Fiat was on the brink of bankrupcy selling irrelevant products of questionable quality. Fiat was so bad off that GM paid TWO BILLION DOLLARS to get out of a partnership. How is it that the world can forgive them and forget all their past automotive sins in TWO years, but people still hold GM accountable for shit they built in the 70's and 80's? God, Fiat... ??? We should just let the Chinese have Chrysler, the quality would probably be better. I mean they are valuing Fiat's engine technology at EIGHT BILLION DOLLARS. For eight Million (one less zero) , I can have the chineese disassemble a couple of 500's and replicate them in under two months. I'm stumped. David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "David Booker" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) >I sincerely hope that Fiat has greatly improved their quality. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue May 5 14:46:39 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 13:46:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The New Generation In-Reply-To: <827978.68275.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <827978.68275.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You are absolutely right Jay. The British Extravaganza was a three day event and Domenic showed up with number 59 on Sunday morning for the car show only. His presentation was over the top with info plaques on stands, orange rubber cones and the bonnet open to reveal the Judson supercharger. With only three Bugeyes and one tatty rubber bumper midget in the Sprite Midget class, it was all but decided. I guess people were just star struck by the Moss cover girl status of the car. Mike On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > That "airport racer" might be a nice restoration, but it is suffering from > overexposure. It is becoming the Brangelina of the Sprite world. > > jay fishbein > > > --- On Sun, 5/3/09, rrengineer @dslextreme.com > wrote: > From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com > Subject: [Spridgets] The New Generation > To: "Spridget" > Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 9:58 PM > > The guy with the Bugeye on the cover of the Moss Motors catalog (the siver > car with the number 59) took > first place. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From davriker at nwi.net Sat May 2 17:08:28 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 16:08:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question References: <704306.20966.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49FCC0E3.1040404@smarc.net> Message-ID: The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the throw out bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to rest that pushes back on the TO bearing. If the bolts holding the pressure plate to the flywheel were tightened out of sequence or incorrectly, the surface that the TO bearing rides against may not be spinning flat. A bent throw out fork could also cause a rattle when not under pressure if the TO is not centered to the pressure plate. Worn release arm pivot points could too. David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question > OK, I put the car up in the air, and peeking through the inspection > port, I can see that the TO bearing is touching the hub of the > diaphragm. It don't think theres much pressure on it, but perhaps ANY > is too much? Should there be a gap there? If so, how much? > > I don't want to blindly start hacking away at the push rod... > > > Ron Soave wrote: >> Spot on Marc - It should not (it's busted) and is caused by too much >> travel, >> typically. I know from experience.... >> >> --- On Sat, 5/2/09, Marc wrote: >> >> From: Marc >> Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question >> To: "Spridgets" >> Date: Saturday, May 2, 2009, 8:20 AM >> >> Good Morning! >> >> I got motivated to see what was making all that rattling racket from the >> transmission. The noise silences with just the slightest pressure on the >> clutch pedal So I pulled the motor and found that the hub in the center >> of the >> diaphragm springs (where the throwout bearing presses on) was loose and >> could >> rattle around. I made the brash assumption that this was the cause of the >> noise... >> >> Can someone confirm that this hub should NOT be loose like that? >> >> Seems like it could have been damaged by perhaps too much pushrod travel >> ? >> >> -- >> >> > > -- > > Marc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.15/2093 - Release Date: 05/02/09 14:23:00 From frogeye at cox.net Tue May 5 15:23:10 2009 From: frogeye at cox.net (frogeye) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 17:23:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle plans Message-ID: Biff, I plan to vend this year and have rooms at the Motel 6 near Hoss's. Not sure how many others plan to make it Alan Bring a poncho and extra sox as you well know From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue May 5 15:25:00 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:25:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] list In-Reply-To: <4A00979E.3020309@wi.net> References: <4A00979E.3020309@wi.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10905051425u2a36fc9fhc2e287a8a1c936c@mail.gmail.com> Dave, We simply took you off the list....don't take it personally. Herb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 5 15:51:28 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:51:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Logo and Poster Contest Reminder... Message-ID: <43840a7e0905051451t7290e038i32fa19a4b1de31ae@mail.gmail.com> ***A contest is now under-way for the event logo and poster design for the Midget 50th Anniversary Celebration! The prize for the winners will be all expenses paid at the event! If the winner doesn't attend, you can swap your prize out to someone who is going. So far only one logo design has been submitted. The deadline is June 1st, 2009! **To find out how to submit your design click HERE. *-- Cheers!! Jim www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Tue May 5 15:51:48 2009 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 14:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Swapping floats and carb tops from a 1098 SU to a 1275 SU Message-ID: <670895.60525.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> IS it possible to swap floats and carb tops form a set of SU's on a 1098 with a set from a 1275. I've got gas pouring out of the top of my front carb, I'll assume I've got a float issue that is not shutting off. Can I simply swap the top off of the front carb from my spare 1275. Signed, Trying to keep from immolating myself. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon May 4 21:45:09 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Mon, 04 May 2009 20:45:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood Message-ID: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> Anyone in the PacNW ever seen this hood in person? http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/pts/1153411179.html If it looks good and gets cheap enough ..... -g From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Tue May 5 16:54:05 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:54:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A00C38D.7010006@sbcglobal.net> Jim, As I look out my kitchen window at the, just shuttered, Chrysler minivan and truck plant across the valley I can't help but think that Fiat will be at least as good for Chrysler as Daimler was and far better than having them close for good. Of course Fiat will not make vehicles that will appeal to most folks in Dodge City. Chrysler already knows how to do that (why do they call it DODGE City?) Fiat does, however, own CNH Global (which includes Case Construction, Case IH, Flexi-Coil, Kobelco, New Holland, New Holland Construction, and Steyr); and Fiat-Hitachi Construction, so they do know a thing or two about rural interests. However, most drivers live in areas where a small car makes sense and Fiat can surely do better than the Dodge Caliber. The Hummer I saw in Manhattan (NY not KS) last week was just as stupid as a Fiat may be where you are. Also, nobody but us old farts remember the "old" Fiat and we're not their target market anyhow. Lee in St. Louis (that was the third largest auto manufacturing city a mere 20 years ago.) From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) To: mike rambour Cc: Spridgets Message-ID: <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 12:03 PM, mike rambour wrote: Well, I hope you are right, Mike. Even at that though, I wonder if Fiat has any understanding of the type of vehicle needed by people in rural America. I cannot imagine a Fiat that would be of use on a farm or somewhere where one has to travel 100 to 200 miles every day to conduct their business. How would they hold up to that kind of use? -- Cheers!! Jim From billmasq at hotmail.com Tue May 5 16:59:08 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:59:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood In-Reply-To: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> References: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes Bill- I've seen it. It belongs to Rick Bastedo (in out MG club). He got it with a parts Midget but it doesn't fit anything but a Bugeye very well (too short). Bill PS- going to the meeting next Tuesday? > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:45:09 -0700 > From: wmgilroy at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood > > Anyone in the PacNW ever seen this hood in person? > http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/pts/1153411179.html > If it looks good and gets cheap enough ..... > > -g > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd1_052009 From billmasq at hotmail.com Tue May 5 17:01:33 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:01:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Spridget hood In-Reply-To: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> References: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> Message-ID: Correction- I thought that you were takiing about the hardtop- The hood came with his '62 Sprite and is very solid steel and really well made, he is just going to put a common Spridget hood on his. Bill From: billmasq at hotmail.com To: wmgilroy at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Spridget hood Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 15:59:08 -0700 Yes Bill- I've seen it. It belongs to Rick Bastedo (in out MG club). He got it with a parts Midget but it doesn't fit anything but a Bugeye very well (too short). Bill PS- going to the meeting next Tuesday? > Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 20:45:09 -0700 > From: wmgilroy at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood > > Anyone in the PacNW ever seen this hood in person? > http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/pts/1153411179.html > If it looks good and gets cheap enough ..... > > -g > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. See how. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_WhatsNew1_052009 From richb at u.washington.edu Tue May 5 17:10:20 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:10:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood References: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> Message-ID: Bill As Bill M. said it belongs to Rick Bastedo in Snoqualmie. Rick will also be at the NOSHIT on the 30th. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "William M. Gilroy" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood > Anyone in the PacNW ever seen this hood in person? > http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/pts/1153411179.html > If it looks good and gets cheap enough ..... > > -g > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue May 5 17:23:35 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:23:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood In-Reply-To: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> References: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> Message-ID: That scoop reminds me of the 65-67 GTO hood scoop. On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM, William M. Gilroy wrote: > Anyone in the PacNW ever seen this hood in person? > http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/pts/1153411179.html > If it looks good and gets cheap enough ..... > > -g > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sun May 3 01:23:05 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 00:23:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Italy Message-ID: <37dc82d40905030023u4954a3echa8f2b91e1cfc6a03@mail.gmail.com> Ron, Tnanks for the great shots. Where do I apply for this type of work? Will they take a 58 year old with a bad back who has had two back surgeries and is on pain medication? I can only work a two day a week, but I would promise them that I would work hard on those two days . . . LOL Is that you in one of the pictures staring up at somthing? Kirk 59 BE From nases at verizon.net Sun May 3 16:27:18 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 18:27:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb tuning In-Reply-To: <9657F297-5122-4A80-8FB9-311B5C42EE5A@verizon.net> References: <9657F297-5122-4A80-8FB9-311B5C42EE5A@verizon.net> Message-ID: <7882B2AB-B619-4FA4-A3EC-B1AC1D6506A9@verizon.net> Well the carb tuning problem turned out to be a plugged seat in the rear float bow. I cleared it out and all is good. Thanks for all the help. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From pythias at pacifier.com Tue May 5 17:45:25 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:45:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb tuning In-Reply-To: <7882B2AB-B619-4FA4-A3EC-B1AC1D6506A9@verizon.net> References: <9657F297-5122-4A80-8FB9-311B5C42EE5A@verizon.net> <7882B2AB-B619-4FA4-A3EC-B1AC1D6506A9@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1044365551.20090505164525@pacifier.com> Hello Phil, My curiosity gets the better of me.. do the tops of the carbs for 1098s exchange with the tops of the 1275s? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Middle age:When your age starts showing at your middle! From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue May 5 17:47:01 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 16:47:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tim - Nice Lifter Bar Message-ID: <37dc82d40905051647s7df42868y5d9542b6c128c79b@mail.gmail.com> My last pull on my Bugeye. . I used heavy straps around the engine and pulled both engine and tranny. It came out much easier than I predicted. . the straps served as a way to adjust and balance the power train. I also kept the bonnet or (hood) on lifting it up high as I could with the side supports taken off. I used a chain to pitch the bonnet up as high as possible with the chain connected to one of those bicycle hangers attached to the ceiling of my garage. It all went well - me doing the job by my lonesome. With engine out I dumped the smooth case for a rib case. . . already had a recent rebuild on a nice 1275. There was a backing plate on the 1275 to accommodate the smooth case. This "set up" was the work of the previous owner. I did cut a slit on one of the motor mounts to make it easier to mount the engine back in. Before doing so I checked with a couple of guys on the list who have pulled several Bugeye engines. I was told that this is a common process and that there is no penalty in terms of structural integrity. Kirk 59 BE From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue May 5 18:26:16 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 17:26:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood In-Reply-To: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> Message-ID: Why don't you make your own out of Paper mache. It would have to look better than the one in the photos. From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue May 5 19:03:34 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:03:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Voltage testing Message-ID: <9DD3881F91D3463A9CCEC0FE596B1904@Home> I spent two days tracing my turn-signal circuit to no avail. There was continuity and current everywhere. In the end, at the plug by the steering wheel, there was current in, and jumping the signal wires to the battery made everything work, but jumping the current in to the signal wires did not work. Then I read an article in Popular Mechanics that discussed tracing voltage. There were less than 10 volts into the circuit - the flasher was passing current, but not enough to make everything work. A new flasher solved the problem. This is a very hard way to learn simple things. I figured out why my turn-signal buzzer goes on when the lights go off. The buzzer is in parallel with the flasher can. When the flasher is closed, there is little drop in the voltage across the terminals, not enough to activate the buzzer. When the flasher is open, there is a voltage drop that activates the buzzer, but not enough current through the buzzer to light the lights. Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Bugeye kit Long Island, NY From spritenut at comcast.net Sat May 2 17:50:04 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 02 May 2009 19:50:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb tuning In-Reply-To: <9657F297-5122-4A80-8FB9-311B5C42EE5A@verizon.net> References: <9657F297-5122-4A80-8FB9-311B5C42EE5A@verizon.net> Message-ID: <49FCDC2C.5000808@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > The bugeye is running but I have a problem with the rear carb. It's a > 1098 with 1.25 SUs. > > Phil Did you see what Kevin found on the Ladybug? I had a bad piston on the rear carb. It fit fine but the hole in the stem where the cap goes was ovaled out. This was the cause of no resistance when the rear piston was raised. It might not be your problem but it's another new one on me. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Tue May 5 19:54:50 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:54:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but still cool..........MATE ROV youtube In-Reply-To: <205cef430905040815k41843beau737a300b666fe5a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905040815k41843beau737a300b666fe5a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A00EDEA.5040304@comcast.net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Our school robot preforming a task. > Enjoy > Lin > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9-rFsZWzbs&feature=email > _______________________________________________ > Congrats, they had a great teacher. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 3 18:58:16 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 03 May 2009 20:58:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] It's green Message-ID: <49FE3DA8.5040702@comcast.net> I painted the 69 Sprite tonight, 5 coats and ran out of paint. I am not real happy with the paint job as it did not cover well on the edges and corners. So I think I will sand it down with 400 grit, shoot it with a coat of base to at least cover the sharp edges, then hit it with a few more coats of single stage urethane. I seam to recall the same problem when I painted my 67 BRG, must be the color as this is a new can of paint. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From billmasq at hotmail.com Tue May 5 20:22:10 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 19:22:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood In-Reply-To: References: <49FFB645.8030408@gmail.com> Message-ID: To me it looks like a strange copy of a '57 T-bird > Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:23:35 -0500 > From: tequila.brad at gmail.com > To: wmgilroy at gmail.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget hood > > That scoop reminds me of the 65-67 GTO hood scoop. > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 10:45 PM, William M. Gilroy wrote: > > > Anyone in the PacNW ever seen this hood in person? > > http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/pts/1153411179.html > > If it looks good and gets cheap enough ..... > > > > -g > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Storage1_052009 From spritenut at comcast.net Tue May 5 20:38:23 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 22:38:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Swapping floats and carb tops from a 1098 SU to a 1275 SU In-Reply-To: <670895.60525.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <670895.60525.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A00F81F.4000203@comcast.net> James Gruber wrote: > IS it possible to swap floats and carb tops form a set of SU's on a 1098 with > a set from a 1275. I've got gas pouring out of the top of my front carb, I'll > assume I've got a float issue that is not shutting off. Can I simply swap the > top off of the front carb from my spare 1275. > > Direct swap. But it's probably just a dirty float needle, try cleaning it, or just replacing it, they are cheap. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Tue May 5 21:00:18 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 22:00:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905051750n36f1fc4g2272defd9da7c46c@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A00C38D.7010006@sbcglobal.net> <43840a7e0905051750n36f1fc4g2272defd9da7c46c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A00FD42.9030500@sbcglobal.net> Jim, According to the site internetautoguide.com I counted 47 auto brands with 344 models available in the US, plus literally thousands of varieties when you add options. There will, no doubt, be a reduction in that number as it is, obviously, not sustainable, but there is - and will be - a vehicle for everyone's needs be they big, small, urban, rural, red or blue. I doubt a Chrysler/Fiat will be in my garage any time soon, but when I need a new car or truck I will have more options than just about any place else on the planet. As far as your feeling like a second class American, stop listening to talk radio. No one thinks that. Lee Jim Johnson wrote: > "Most drivers live in areas where a small car makes sense?" I don't > know what the figures are, but does that mean that those of us who need > larger vehicles are just $hit out of luck? If so, good luck buying > groceries in the city when the farms go under. > > Once again, its like America doesn't exists outside of the "Welcome to > the City" signs. > > Sure Fiat as a company has diversified interests. Any successful > international company does that. And I'm not saying we all own Hummers > out here. Those vehicles are as ridiculous out here as they are in NY-NY. > > We will have to see how this plays out. I have doubts based on both my > experiences with Fiats and on my experience as a rural resident in this > country. Both are sour experiences. One as second class car, the other > as supposed second class American. > > What upsets me most is the tenor of the news from the Whitehouse and > Washington that somehow Fiat is going to bring some great, new > enlightenment to Chrysler. That's just BS. > > Our auto industry may have been struggling in this country but what > really killed it was not production of vehicles that nobody wanted. It > was the double whammy of $4 a gallon fuel and the credit crunch. At $4 a > gallon people who could started buying small, fuel effecient cars while > those of us who NEEDED the trucks just had to suffer. Then, when the > banks stopped lending, people couldn't buy any cars so an already > precariously perched industry took a huge wack. > > Chrysler was in the worst financial condition so they were the first to > go. Notice that Ford is in the best shape of all.... Why? Guess > what... Because of their _pick-up truck sales!_ At least that's what > the WSJ says and I think they are right. > > So all this crowing about small, fuel effecient cars thanks to Fiat's > guidance just rubs me the wrong way. It may be true in urban America but > it is far from true in the heartland. And we happen to feed ya'll. > > Cheers!! > Jim From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 4 14:30:20 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 15:30:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <1241465659.32396.41.camel@WebBrowser> References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> <1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser> <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> <1241465659.32396.41.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905041330y20604e82u1cc5e92aece06a4d@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:34 PM, mike rambour wrote: > > I actually think the modern Fiat would hold up just fine BUT I also see > it failing miserably in the U.S. anyway. Too many people swear they > will never own a Fiat again, too many bad memories and they just are not > willing to give Fiat another try. For them to survive in middle America (flyover country) where people need their vehicles for work rather than just transportation to and from, they will have to build trucks. We use our trucks out here in the hinterlands. You can't haul two round bales out to the herd with a Fiat 500 or even a Fiat Dino. You can't pick up ten 100lb bags of dairy mix at the elevator with a Fiat either. I predict they will have next to zero market except in urban areas. -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 5 21:06:00 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <794622.78880.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It will depend on the marketing. Road and Track just did a 1st drive of the Abarth version of the 500 and absolutely raved about it. I saw it a few times in Italy, and sign me up. Remember, the target group will be sub-35 year olds, not us old farts. Those of us who are old enough to have driven a Fiat probably were wearing a "NIXON NOW" button at the time. Fiat doesn't care what we thought 30 or 40 years ago. --- On Mon, 5/4/09, mike rambour wrote: From: mike rambour Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) To: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 2:34 PM > Well, I hope you are right, Mike. Even at that though, I wonder if > Fiat has any understanding of the type of vehicle needed by people in > rural America. I cannot imagine a Fiat that would be of use on a farm > or somewhere where one has to travel 100 to 200 miles every day to > conduct their business. How would they hold up to that kind of use? > I actually think the modern Fiat would hold up just fine BUT I also see it failing miserably in the U.S. anyway. Too many people swear they will never own a Fiat again, too many bad memories and they just are not willing to give Fiat another try. I was talking with friends this weekend who would not even buy a Chrysler if they will be associated with Fiat they are that biased against Fiats that they don't want anything to do with them and I think that is a prevalent thought in the U.S. which will cause Fiat to fail again in the U.S. Of course they all want a ride in the Dino so maybe there is hope :) Mike You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue May 5 21:17:33 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 23:17:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <794622.78880.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <794622.78880.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A01014D.4000001@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Those > of us who are old enough to have driven a Fiat probably were wearing a "NIXON > NOW" button at the time. The button read "NIXON'S THE ONE" But in 1992 I did have a bumper sticker that read .... He's tan, he's rested, he's ready. NIXON 92 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 5 21:20:39 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 20:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <597056.27603.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.flickr.com/photos/moff/638911886/ I distinctly remember flooding Mrs. D'Alessandro's 2nd grade class with them prior to the 1972 election. --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Frank wrote: The button read "NIXON'S THE ONE" From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue May 5 22:33:26 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 21:33:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905041330y20604e82u1cc5e92aece06a4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <158900.15660.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905020830r5a671b1flc454b02c0011fa52@mail.gmail.com> <1241456583.32396.23.camel@WebBrowser> <43840a7e0905041219x7245720ap8a8afff05782f1d4@mail.gmail.com> <1241465659.32396.41.camel@WebBrowser> <43840a7e0905041330y20604e82u1cc5e92aece06a4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A011316.7050202@frontiernet.net> Right now my Cherokee is sitting in the driveway holding 400# of horse feed, 200# of dog food, 40# of puppy food, 60# of cat food, 4 cases of Pepsi, and 200' of garden hose. Most Fiats that I have known would not have pulled that load across the pass to my house, let alone contained it all with room for me, a medium sized dog, and a human passenger. Kate Jim Johnson wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:34 PM, mike rambour wrote: > > >> I actually think the modern Fiat would hold up just fine BUT I also see >> it failing miserably in the U.S. anyway. From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue May 5 22:38:19 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 23:38:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but still cool..........MATE ROV youtube In-Reply-To: <4A00EDEA.5040304@comcast.net> References: <205cef430905040815k41843beau737a300b666fe5a2@mail.gmail.com> <4A00EDEA.5040304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A01143B.8020008@wi.net> Ya! What Frank said! Kids'll come through if the teacher does. Dave W. Frank wrote: > Linda Grunthaner wrote: >> Our school robot preforming a task. >> Enjoy >> Lin >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9-rFsZWzbs&feature=email >> _______________________________________________ >> > Congrats, they had a great teacher. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue May 5 22:59:28 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <328685.95389.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Andrew Payne wrote: "By the way the 500 shares underpinnings with the Ford Ka. " I didn't know that Drew. But if it is so, it makes me even more interested in the 500. I have very find memories of an afternoon in a rental Ka spent following a friend in his XR3 Escort along some wonderful twisty lanes to Bodium Castle. He lives in the area and knew the roads, so I was having a blast rowing the shfter up and down the gears and drifting through curves right on his rear bumper. Ahhh, how I love crisp-handling little cars... David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From rbastedo at gmail.com Tue May 5 23:21:02 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 22:21:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood Message-ID: Yes, it's a solid metal modification of a Spridget hood. It really provides enough room under there for just about any engine you want to put in. I just don't need that much room for my 948 and I really want to paint up one of my standard hoods and go back to the stock look. Rick Bastedo From mark at bradakis.com Wed May 6 00:13:04 2009 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 00:13:04 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status Message-ID: <20090506061304.512482E08E@bradakis.com> Yes, there have been problems with the Team.Net mailing lists, related web pages, FTP stuff and such. And it ain't over yet. It should all be fine by next week, though. The current ISP providing Team.Net connectivity along with several other domains and network related services is Qwest. Saturday, May 2nd, they cut off my network access. They have been recieving complaints about "malicious activity" from one of my servers. It has happened before. The first time I actually spent many hours on the phone over a period of several days and found out the nature of the "malicious activity." Someone too lazy or too stupid to click on the 'unsubscribe' link for one of the mailing lists was flagging all incoming Team.Net emails as spam. Once I finally managed to penetrate deep into the Qwest support to find someone with more than a single digit IQ, it took me just a few seconds to remove the braindead A-hole from the lists to which they subscribed. It happened again a while back, again I took the time and effort to finally get to the root of the problem and removed the whining piece of human debris from the appropriate list. This time I've had enough. It is so frustrating to have to go through their entire little debugging script *every time* I talk to a new person about it: Them: What operating system are you running? Me: Unix, FreeBSD 6.2 Them: No, I mean are you running Vista, XP or Windows 98? Me: Like I said, I'm running Unix, FreeBSD 6.2. I am NOT running Windows, just like I told all the other ... You know, a lot of people who just use computers as a basic appliance would not understand the details of that conversation, they have no need to. But tech support people working for a major company like Qwest? How do people that incompetent get through the first job interview? Do they have anyone on their staff who can even *spell* Unix?? At any rate, the problem that Qwest claims I have is still not resolved, they will most likely once again cut off my network access soon. As I said, I've had enough. On Friday, May 8th I will be changing from Qwest to XMission, located here in Salt Lake, for Team.Net ISP service. The changeover will result in Team.Net services being unavailable for a few days. IP addresses, nameserver data, etc. will take a day or two or so to percolate through the network. So expect sporadic service over the next few days, but it should all settle down by early next week. Thank you for your patience. mjb. From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 6 03:54:12 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 05:54:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but still cool..........MATE ROV youtube In-Reply-To: <1826636396.2383081241555879598.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1690880275.2382341241555834805.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1826636396.2383081241555879598.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430905060254gd2b2537of1d5ff07c64f609d@mail.gmail.com> Hey Ryan cool robot Timothy Turtle and awesome site. Too bad I have limited patience in programming computer chips and joysticks. Next year will be a very big challenge because the seniors who programmed all the chips for the joysticks was the last of the talented programmers in our club. I may be forced to learn it myself......ugh....what a thought. But I'm working on some of the program savvy freshmen before my seniors are gone. What robots are you working on now? Lin On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:37 PM, wrote: > http://davidbuckley.net/DB/HistoryMakers.htm#TimTurtle > > > > timothy turtle circa 1953 was made by my grandfather and thats my mom as a > little girl posing with it.. It suffered a fatal crash one day when instead > of following the flashlight it followed a brighter light source (the sun) > down a flight of hard wood stairs. > > > > Today I run high throughput screening in the pharma industry for Johnson > and johnson utilizing no less than 10 robotic systems a day. > > > > keeping it in the family..... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: "Spridget list" > Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 11:15:56 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but still cool..........MATE ROV youtube > > Our school robot preforming a task. > Enjoy > Lin > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9-rFsZWzbs&feature=email > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 6 03:54:42 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 05:54:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC but still cool..........MATE ROV youtube In-Reply-To: <4A00EDEA.5040304@comcast.net> References: <205cef430905040815k41843beau737a300b666fe5a2@mail.gmail.com> <4A00EDEA.5040304@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430905060254i77d165bga5a1863a37996af@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Thanks for the compliment but...no I had a very organized senior as team leader and I just cracked a big whip to get them to complete the robot "BEFORE" the event. The on dry land competition early in the year was being worked on while we were on the bus headed to the competition.......what a disaster that was. One student had the bright idea to rearrange the entire drive train system swapping out the motors the night before. I knew I should have had them turn in the robot the day before : ( .......live and learn. More video to follow. Lin On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Frank wrote: > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> Our school robot preforming a task. >> Enjoy >> Lin >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9-rFsZWzbs&feature=email >> _______________________________________________ >> >> > Congrats, they had a great teacher. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 6 03:58:59 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 05:58:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gerry Coker's Original Sprite Message-ID: <205cef430905060258u6d7318eh6d099f1589c16c60@mail.gmail.com> List, I have read that Gerry's original Sprite had the grill lower but never saw any pictures till now. Hey Frank do you think you can make one in time for Carlisle?....... : ) Gerry Coker's Original Sprite http://healey.org/content/view/72/247/ Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 6 04:10:11 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 06:10:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Original Sprite Arrow Badge idea........ Message-ID: <205cef430905060310s2f215a8eo1f85a4db77f81cf2@mail.gmail.com> List, I was a t Barnes & Nobel a few weeks ago and there was an Austin Healey article in one of the UK Car magazines (can't recall which one) they interviewed Gerry Coker. Unfortunately I don't recall any Sprite pictures because the article was focused on the Big Healey (bummer) but Gerry said he got the idea for the Arrow badge from the Parker pen he had in his hand and decided on the Broken Arrow Look for our beloved Bugeye rear badge. How cool is that! I remember as a kid I thought the Parker pen was so cool just because of that arrow : ) I just love tidbits of Spridget history : ) Lin http://www.spritespot.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=59-Austin-Healey-Sprite&id=MVC_00191F http://www.stilografica.it/writable%5CPenne%5CParker%5CParker%20Duofold%20Lucky%208%20Limited%20edition%20Fountain%20pen%20-%20Stilografica.jpg From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 6 04:14:04 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 06:14:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Real Gold polished rear arrow badge...... Message-ID: <205cef430905060314r6e9d7343u837aa55919009efc@mail.gmail.com> Frank & List, Is there another Bugeye rear gold arrow badge to purchase that is really polished? I saw both Frankie Jr & Ladybug has really shinny "real gold look" badges. The 2 badges I bought one being the 50 year is a dull gold paint. Frank are you ordering "Real Gold" badges? Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 6 04:18:25 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 06:18:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] It's green In-Reply-To: <49FE3DA8.5040702@comcast.net> References: <49FE3DA8.5040702@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430905060318q30784e44k271a18939144371@mail.gmail.com> I've got to stop by and take a peek Frank I didn't know you were that far with it.....er...... I should have known ; ) Lin On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Frank wrote: > I painted the 69 Sprite tonight, 5 coats and ran out of paint. > I am not real happy with the paint job as it did not cover well on the > edges and corners. > So I think I will sand it down with 400 grit, shoot it with a coat of base > to at least cover the sharp edges, then hit it with a few more coats of > single stage > urethane. > I seam to recall the same problem when I painted my 67 BRG, must be the > color as this is a new can of paint. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 6 04:25:10 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 06:25:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine out In-Reply-To: <502514.1026.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <502514.1026.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905060325g4d0a8c41y7565f7ec086e243c@mail.gmail.com> Sounds like progress David, Keep us posted : ) Lin On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:41 PM, David Booker wrote: > Well, Engine is out and on the stand. Decided t leave the tranny alone > after > all. Found few surprises except that the distributor was in there loose to > the > touch. Hmmm, think it might run better when I get it back in and actually > tighten it down? The cause of the noises was very apparent (and was > exactly what I suspected it to be) - Throwout bearing carbon piece was in > many, many pieces in the bottom of the bell housing. Yep, that would sure > make an ugly sound when pressing on the clutch. In the few shifts it took > me > to get home once the noise started I had already begun to grind into the > metal > surround for the carbon material. > > Just went to the parts store and got a gallon of Super Clean and found a > couple of neat expandy-rubber plugs I can put into the intake manifold > holes > while washing it all down. NOW comes the nasty part of the job. > > David Booker > '71 0000cc Midget > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 6 04:28:32 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 06:28:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Possible Spridget Seats In-Reply-To: <476E60A359FB47A5A8E47F66D8AD3B7A@HomeComputer> References: <476E60A359FB47A5A8E47F66D8AD3B7A@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <205cef430905060328w63d9c350k4ae12e1140b18cbf@mail.gmail.com> Check VW catalogs they may have cheaper ones thy sell for Dune Buggys. Lin On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Dean Swanson wrote: > Have any of you guys seen these seat or the 3-wheeled scooter they go in? > > > > http://www.motosportsparts.com/s.nl/sc.14/category.48866/.f > > > > At $80 and only weighting 5 lbs they seem like they would be a good > possibility (and the scooter looks like fun too). > > > > Dean Swanson > > '62 A.H. Sprite mkII > > Holly Springs, NC > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed May 6 05:29:40 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 07:29:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery R&R and Fiat Message-ID: <7ll0se$6bbjqp@email.mtu.edu> One of my neighbors threw out a 12V Milwaukee took battery. Not the nice nicad, or lithium packs you picture in your mind, but a nice metal book which contains a 12V lead acid garden tractor size battery. A receipt in the box shows the battery was purchased in 1995. After all these years it doesn't contain any (much) acid, but otherwise the battery looks new. I doubt that it saw hard service. Is it possible to R&R a 12V lead acid battery with this kind of history? I tried filling the cells with water but it won't take a charge (Oh about 4 volts is all.) The battery is 7.75" wide, 5.125" deep, and 6" high (with posts 7" high) and has a sticker - 1982299 - the only surviving ID tag. The battery was purchased at an Auto Value store. In regard to Fiat cars, Autoblog.com has a story about the Fiat / Chrysler marriage titled; "Chrysler and Fiat: A merger of equally unreliable product?" The article has data to support the supposition about poor quality coming from both companies. I like the 500 and it is about the right size car for my short of stature wife. Her last car was a Subaru Justy which fit her just right. Many of the new small cars have a very high belt line which obstructs rear vision. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed May 6 05:40:48 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 07:40:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Picture Message-ID: <7lku3e$63vk44@email.mtu.edu> This blog site has a pic of Miss Hubbard's Bugeye Sprite UNDER Jack Berweiler's Plymouth - an accident which took place on wet roads years ago. http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/ Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From dwramsey at att.net Wed May 6 05:47:24 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 04:47:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <20090506061304.512482E08E@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <20090506114729.521D918764F@autox.team.net> OK, but are you running, Vista, XP, or Windose 98? Thanks for your effort, you the man. Crash From fastvee at yahoo.com Wed May 6 06:25:19 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 05:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted Message-ID: <792503.42338.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> David, Just curious, what cam kit are you installing? John Fogelsville, PA --- On Thu, 4/30/09, 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > From: 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted > To: "David Booker" , "spridget" > Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 9:23 PM > A third person here weighing in as > one who has done it both ways. I am about to pull the lump > again to put in a new cam kit. I will NOT be pulling the > transmission out. > David Lieb _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fastvee at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 6 06:53:02 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 07:53:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted References: <792503.42338.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Just curious, what cam kit are you installing? It is the SwifTune SW5-07 cam with 1.5:1 rockers and adjustable cam sprocket. http://www.swiftune.com/Product/450/sw507-highlift-kit.aspx David From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed May 6 07:35:23 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 06:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted Message-ID: <252192.47530.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wow - did I write that? talk about Freudian slip! I meant to say I'm pulling the engine to do the clutch. - David Booker --- On Wed, 5/6/09, fastvee wrote: From: fastvee Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted To: "spridget" , "72 Spridget" <72spridget at gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 7:25 AM David, Just curious, what cam kit are you installing? John Fogelsville, PA --- On Thu, 4/30/09, 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > From: 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted > To: "David Booker" , "spridget" > Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 9:23 PM > A third person here weighing in as > one who has done it both ways. I am about to pull the lump > again to put in a new cam kit. I will NOT be pulling the > transmission out. > David Lieb _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as fastvee at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 6 08:34:27 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 07:34:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery R&R and Fiat In-Reply-To: <7ll0se$6bbjqp@email.mtu.edu> References: <7ll0se$6bbjqp@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4A019FF3.7080504@frontiernet.net> You can try replacing the acid by putting two plain old aspirin in each cell and putting it on trickle charge overnight. I've had very good luck with this tactic. Kate Timothy H. Collins wrote: > One of my neighbors threw out a 12V Milwaukee took battery. Not the > nice nicad, or lithium packs you picture in your mind, but a nice > metal book which contains a 12V lead acid garden tractor size battery. > A receipt in the box shows the battery was purchased in 1995. After > all these years it doesn't contain any (much) acid, but otherwise the > battery looks new. I doubt that it saw hard service. Is it possible to > R&R a 12V lead acid battery with this kind of history? I tried filling > the cells with water but it won't take a charge (Oh about 4 volts is > all.) The battery is 7.75" wide, 5.125" deep, and 6" high (with posts > 7" high) and has a sticker - 1982299 - the only surviving ID tag. The > battery was purchased at an Auto Value store. From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed May 6 09:24:23 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <20090506061304.512482E08E@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <878734.31929.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> My PC is still in the shop (12 days!!) So yesterday I'm at BestBuy seriously considering a new laptop... I have my bootable Ubuntu on a flash drive with me... Last part of the 'conversation'; Me: (Showing the flash drive) Would it be OK to check if this PC will boot Linux off my flash-drive?? BestBuy Moron: No need.. Vista will ll play almost every game there is... After a few more attempts to explain what I want to do, I left!!! one sale lost!! Dave G... still using the local library's PCs'.. --- On Tue, 5/5/09, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Them: What operating system are you running? > > Me: Unix, FreeBSD 6.2 > > Them: No, I mean are you running Vista, XP or Windows 98? > > Me: Like I said, I'm running Unix, FreeBSD 6.2. I am > NOT running Windows, just like I told all the other ... From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 6 09:35:18 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <878734.31929.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <271320.91651.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The next level of frustration beyond this, is to contact AT&T with an internet problem. After you're call gets escalated to someone on US territory, you go through their BS machine . In my experience, AT&T and their subsidiaries are, and have been, the absolute worst company to deal with from a customer service perspective on any level, in any department. It has to be the corporate culture within that organization. jay fishbein wallingford, ct --- On Wed, 5/6/09, DAVID GROPPER wrote: From: DAVID GROPPER Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team.Net status To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Mark J Bradakis" Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 11:24 AM My PC is still in the shop (12 days!!) So yesterday I'm at BestBuy seriously considering a new laptop... I have my bootable Ubuntu on a flash drive with me... Last part of the 'conversation'; Me: (Showing the flash drive) Would it be OK to check if this PC will boot Linux off my flash-drive?? BestBuy Moron: No need.. Vista will ll play almost every game there is... After a few more attempts to explain what I want to do, I left!!! one sale lost!! Dave G... still using the local library's PCs'.. From pythias at pacifier.com Wed May 6 09:36:12 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 08:36:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <878734.31929.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <20090506061304.512482E08E@bradakis.com> <878734.31929.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1693536398.20090506083612@pacifier.com> Hello DAVID, You should have just put it in and run it.... you could have pulled the drive and walked out with the machine still having been booted into Linux.... but of course you didn't want to buy from BESTBUY in ANY case anyway.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Every minute you are angry wastes 60 happy seconds. From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 6 09:49:36 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:49:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: <000901c9ce61$89356fe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <252192.47530.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000901c9ce61$89356fe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <402188520905060849m2fda31ecq26f18eacd224b301@mail.gmail.com> >> Wow - did I write that? talk about Freudian slip! I meant to say I'm > pulling >> the engine to do the clutch. No, David Lieb is doing the cam job, David Booker is doing the clutch job. Is yourr name not David? Bound to cause confusion. Mind if we call you David? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 6 09:57:20 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:57:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Yes, it's a solid metal modification But is there a way to make it close correctly and get rid of the Bondo waves in the front? The jagged edges underneath are pretty rough too. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 6 09:59:24 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:59:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery R&R and Fiat In-Reply-To: <4A019FF3.7080504@frontiernet.net> References: <7ll0se$6bbjqp@email.mtu.edu> <4A019FF3.7080504@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905060859vb00fe6fjb3568a18bc6133bb@mail.gmail.com> Tim, Think about how a lead acid battery works. They produce electricity through the electrolysis process which gradually, over time, eats away the lead in the plates and coats them with lead sulfides. If allowed to discharge too far the plates warp, and if they come in contact with another plate they short out and you have a dead cell. If you have dead cells the maximum charge the battery will hold decreases by that fraction of the number of cells in the battery and there is no way to fix it short of rebuilding the battery completely. You should never put new acid into an old battery. Only distilled water. Tap water contains minerals which will impact the chemical reaction which produces the electricity in the battery. Also, consider the application you want to use the battery for and the one it was designed for. It makes a huge difference. While 12V is 12V, the Amperage can be much different. There are float batteries and Deep cycle batteries. Here's a great tutorial on batteries, but I have to say it sounds to me from the age of the battery and the fact that it had become discharged and you can only bring it up to 4 volts, you are probably wasting your time with it. Just guessing but I'll bet 2/3rds of the cells are dead. http://www.batterystuff.com/tutorial_battery.html Cheers! Jim On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > You can try replacing the acid by putting two plain old aspirin in each > cell and putting it on trickle charge overnight. I've had very good luck > with this tactic. > > Kate > > > Timothy H. Collins wrote: > >> One of my neighbors threw out a 12V Milwaukee took battery. Not the nice >> nicad, or lithium packs you picture in your mind, but a nice metal book >> which contains a 12V lead acid garden tractor size battery. A receipt in the >> box shows the battery was purchased in 1995. After all these years it >> doesn't contain any (much) acid, but otherwise the battery looks new. I >> doubt that it saw hard service. Is it possible to R&R a 12V lead acid >> battery with this kind of history? I tried filling the cells with water but >> it won't take a charge (Oh about 4 volts is all.) The battery is 7.75" wide, >> 5.125" deep, and 6" high (with posts 7" high) and has a sticker - 1982299 - >> the only surviving ID tag. The battery was purchased at an Auto Value store. >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed May 6 10:09:12 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:09:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget hood In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Close correctly? The part in front with the pointy tip (what's that called?) that engages to lock the hood in place just needs to be adjusted down a little. I didn't think it was worth my time to fiddle with it since I'm planning on letting this hood go to someone else. Front? Do you mean the edge near the windshield or the part at the front of the car? Are you merely flipping shi(t) at my offering or are you actually interested? Rick B. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Yes, it's a solid metal modification > But is there a way to make it close correctly and get rid of the Bondo > waves > in the front? The jagged edges underneath are pretty rough too. From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed May 6 10:37:46 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:37:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <1693536398.20090506083612@pacifier.com> References: <20090506061304.512482E08E@bradakis.com> <878734.31929.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <1693536398.20090506083612@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <890132046A874FC3AB36A877BB1A851E@Home> > You should have just put it in and run it.... Remember the advice from Management 101: "It is easier to get forgiveness than permission." Don't ask, don't tell. Michael Row From pelliott at innercite.com Wed May 6 11:10:17 2009 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:10:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <271320.91651.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <878734.31929.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <271320.91651.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <03e901c9ce6d$881626c0$98427440$@com> Oh, it's far, far worse from the inside.. AT&T employee for the far too long..... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Fishbein Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:35 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team.Net status The next level of frustration beyond this, is to contact AT&T with an internet problem. After you're call gets escalated to someone on US territory, you go through their BS machine . In my experience, AT&T and their subsidiaries are, and have been, the absolute worst company to deal with from a customer service perspective on any level, in any department. It has to be the corporate culture within that organization. jay fishbein wallingford, ct --- On Wed, 5/6/09, DAVID GROPPER wrote: From: DAVID GROPPER Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team.Net status To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Mark J Bradakis" Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 11:24 AM My PC is still in the shop (12 days!!) So yesterday I'm at BestBuy seriously considering a new laptop... I have my bootable Ubuntu on a flash drive with me... Last part of the 'conversation'; Me: (Showing the flash drive) Would it be OK to check if this PC will boot Linux off my flash-drive?? BestBuy Moron: No need.. Vista will ll play almost every game there is... After a few more attempts to explain what I want to do, I left!!! one sale lost!! Dave G... still using the local library's PCs'.. You are subscribed as pelliott at innercite.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/05/09 13:07:00 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed May 6 11:20:01 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 12:20:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <03e901c9ce6d$881626c0$98427440$@com> References: <878734.31929.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <271320.91651.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <03e901c9ce6d$881626c0$98427440$@com> Message-ID: I have ATT on my cell contract. Every time I need help, I can see how much they are LOWERING the bar. Dealing with their Cuss-tomer Dis-service, is like a game of limbo, how low can you get... On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Patrick Elliott wrote: > Oh, it's far, far worse from the inside.. > > AT&T employee for the far too long..... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Fishbein > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 8:35 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team.Net status > > The next level of frustration beyond this, is to contact AT&T with an > internet problem. > > After you're call gets escalated to someone on US territory, you go through > their BS machine . > > In my experience, AT&T and their subsidiaries are, and have been, the > absolute worst company to deal with from a customer service perspective on > any level, in any department. > > It has to be the corporate culture within that organization. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, DAVID GROPPER wrote: > From: DAVID GROPPER > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team.Net status > To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Mark J Bradakis" > Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 11:24 AM > > My PC is still in the shop (12 days!!) So yesterday I'm at BestBuy > seriously > considering a new laptop... I have my bootable Ubuntu on a flash drive with > me... > > Last part of the 'conversation'; > > Me: (Showing the flash drive) Would it be OK to check if this PC will boot > Linux off my flash-drive?? > BestBuy Moron: No need.. Vista will ll play almost every game there is... > > After a few more attempts to explain what I want to do, I left!!! > > one sale lost!! > > Dave G... still using the local library's PCs'.. > You are subscribed as pelliott at innercite.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.13/2091 - Release Date: 05/05/09 > 13:07:00 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed May 6 11:26:07 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:26:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pozidriv Message-ID: I found #3 and #4 Pozidriv screw drivers, but have not found bits for an impact driver. Any suggestions? Michael Rowe From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 6 11:43:26 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:43:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pozidriv In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910905061043p231a0ebey556ea6d3b5ba678d@mail.gmail.com> I think my set is a Mac tools set. On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I found #3 and #4 Pozidriv screw drivers, but have not found bits for an impact driver. Any suggestions? From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed May 6 12:04:41 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:04:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> Out of curiosity, are y'all talking about Fiats or small cars? I keep hearing about hauling a half ton of supplies in a Fiat, does this not also rule out Mini, MG, classic motorcycles, Honda Fit, VW, Mazda 3, Toyota Yaris, Ford Focus, as well as guns, cats, and dogs, and almost everything else we talk about? This is not so much a question to Kathryn, as to the group, I just don't get the argument. It seems that people are saying they won't buy a Chrysler because they make a car that does not fit your needs, where as now people are not buying from Chrysler because they don't make a car that suits their needs. Semantics and circular logic, yes, but the problem for the for the US auto makers has had more to do with the cars they don't make than the ones that they do. At lunch a friend had a brochure on the Ford Fusion I was interested by the AWD, the V6, racy package - but it has a 90's type slushbox! Back to the imports! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn Bales Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:33 AM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Right now my Cherokee is sitting in the driveway holding 400# of horse feed, 200# of dog food, 40# of puppy food, 60# of cat food, 4 cases of Pepsi, and 200' of garden hose. Most Fiats that I have known would not have pulled that load across the pass to my house, let alone contained it all with room for me, a medium sized dog, and a human passenger. Kate Jim Johnson wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:34 PM, mike rambour wrote: > > >> I actually think the modern Fiat would hold up just fine BUT I also see >> it failing miserably in the U.S. anyway. You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed May 6 12:06:05 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:06:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A bit OT - MGC books offered for sale Message-ID: Just in case some of you also own one or more MGC's... (or know someone who does) In case you are wondering how this is on topic at all, I'm trying to raise funds to finish my Sprite. I don't have a good idea of their current value. If you're interested in them send me an email or respond here. If you just want to let me know what you think they are worth it doesn't matter whether or not you want to buy them - I'm interested in what you have to say. If you just want to piss on my messages...(Billy??) I suppose if it makes you feel better then go right ahead. First a very nice BMC SERVICE PARTS LIST MGC book that has all three parts in it: MGC MECHANICAL SERVICE PARTS LIST MGC BODY SERVICE PARTS LIST MGC POWER UNIT SERVICE PARTS LIST http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgc_spl01.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgc_spl02.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgc_spl03.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgc_spl04.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgc_spl05.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgc_spl06.jpg I've also got the CARBURETTOR SERVICE PARTS LIST Note - although the index lists the H1 carbs I can not find it in the book and have no idea why it was omitted. http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_04.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_01.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_02.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_03.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_05.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_06.jpg Next a nice 1984 copy of Lindsay Porter's Guide to Purchase & DIY Restoration MGB With supplementary information on MGC & MGB V8 The outer paper cover is a little spotty but not worn and under it the hard covers are in excellent condition. http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgb_01.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgb_02.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgb_03.jpg Finally here is a mint MGC Handbook. This is kept in a plastic bag to keep it in new condition. http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/handbk_01.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/handbk_02.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/handbk_03.jpg http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/handbk_04.jpg 'Thanks for all the fish' Rick Bastedo From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed May 6 12:19:19 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 13:19:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: <402188520905060849m2fda31ecq26f18eacd224b301@mail.gmail.com> References: <252192.47530.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000901c9ce61$89356fe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <402188520905060849m2fda31ecq26f18eacd224b301@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A01D4A7.90407@wi.net> I'm confused! David W. (Dave) David Lieb wrote: > No, David Lieb is doing the cam job, David Booker is doing the clutch job. > Is yourr name not David? Bound to cause confusion. Mind if we call you David? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed May 6 12:23:11 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted Message-ID: <555897.30432.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've been called much worse, but mostly David. David Booker --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted To: "Spridgets" Cc: "David Booker" Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:49 AM >> Wow - did I write that? talk about Freudian slip! I meant to say I'm > pulling >> the engine to do the clutch. No, David Lieb is doing the cam job, David Booker is doing the clutch job. Is yourr name not David? Bound to cause confusion. Mind if we call you David? From conan at intrex.net Wed May 6 13:02:12 2009 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:02:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <200905061502.AA149553202@intrex.net> per Kate... >>Right now my Cherokee is sitting in the driveway holding 400# of horse feed, 200# of dog food, 40# of puppy food, 60# of cat food, 4 cases of Pepsi, and 200' of garden hose.... Ya know.. ONE of these days I'm going to have enough of a job again to come out and visit... :-) E From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 6 13:05:47 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:05:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> I think this has now become a case of circular think. So many people have chimed in and changed the original course of discussion that no one knows what we are talking about anymore. I know that I sure don't!! ;-) Cheers!! Jim Lessee.... guns, cats and dogs... OH! and Frank Zappa! Don't forget Frank!! And maybe guitars and screen door springs and lawn fertilizer and ...... ;-) On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > Out of curiosity, are y'all talking about Fiats or small cars? I keep > hearing > about hauling a half ton of supplies in a Fiat, does this not also rule out > Mini, MG, classic motorcycles, Honda Fit, VW, Mazda 3, Toyota Yaris, Ford > Focus, as well as guns, cats, and dogs, and almost everything else we talk > about? This is not so much a question to Kathryn, as to the group, I just > don't get the argument. It seems that people are saying they won't buy a > Chrysler because they make a car that does not fit your needs, where as now > people are not buying from Chrysler because they don't make a car that > suits > their needs. Semantics and circular logic, yes, but the problem for the for > the US auto makers has had more to do with the cars they don't make than > the > ones that they do. > At lunch a friend had a brochure on the Ford Fusion I was interested by the > AWD, the V6, racy package - but it has a 90's type slushbox! Back to the > imports! > > Drew > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathryn Bales > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:33 AM > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) > > Right now my Cherokee is sitting in the driveway holding 400# of horse > feed, 200# of dog food, 40# of puppy food, 60# of cat food, 4 cases of > Pepsi, and 200' of garden hose. Most Fiats that I have known would not > have pulled that load across the pass to my house, let alone contained > it all with room for me, a medium sized dog, and a human passenger. > > Kate > > > Jim Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:34 PM, mike rambour > wrote: > > > > > >> I actually think the modern Fiat would hold up just fine BUT I also see > >> it failing miserably in the U.S. anyway. > You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From peter at nosimport.com Wed May 6 13:29:34 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 14:29:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.co m> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905061229784.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 02:05 PM 5/6/2009, Jim Johnson wrote: >Cheers!! >Jim > >Lessee.... guns, cats and dogs... OH! and Frank Zappa! Don't forget >Frank!! And maybe guitars and screen door springs and lawn fertilizer and >...... ;-) ==== I missed the "screen door springs"! (thread) I spent a lot of time on that! I wanted just the correct sound from my yout. Peter From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 6 13:33:48 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:33:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905061233ne755294q5394bccba035eed9@mail.gmail.com> > I think this has now become a case of circular think. So many people have > chimed in and changed the original course of discussion that no one knows > what we are talking about anymore. I know that I sure don't!! ;-) That's at least two people on this List... Kate, There ARE Fiats that can handle all that and so much more. Granted, it is not the new 500 Abarth. There are NO MGs or Austin-Healeys with that kind of capacity, either. That must be why we can't buy any new Spridgets! I have owned a couple of Mopars and they all delivered above and beyond the call of duty. No complaints from me. I do believe, however, that Chrysler frequently loses sight of whatever goals they might have. And their paint colors tend to make British Leyland's look good. David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed May 6 13:46:03 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 19:46:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: <4A01D4A7.90407@wi.net> References: <252192.47530.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000901c9ce61$89356fe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <402188520905060849m2fda31ecq26f18eacd224b301@mail.gmail.com> <4A01D4A7.90407@wi.net> Message-ID: Now ... if you're going to call the rest of us 'David', then I'll certainly be confused ... or at least have an excuse for the confusion that I exhibit now. > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:19:19 -0500 > From: dwoerpel at wi.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted > > I'm confused! > > David W. (Dave) > > > > David Lieb wrote: > > No, David Lieb is doing the cam job, David Booker is doing the clutch job. > > Is yourr name not David? Bound to cause confusion. Mind if we call you David? From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed May 6 13:51:33 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:51:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <78DBB7D616A74E9CBA7B05263D406D2E@AndrewHP> Personally, I'm just doing everything I can to avoid painting the living room. Drew _____ From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:06 PM To: Andrew Payne Cc: Kathryn Bales; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) I think this has now become a case of circular think. So many people have chimed in and changed the original course of discussion that no one knows what we are talking about anymore. I know that I sure don't!! ;-) Cheers!! Jim Lessee.... guns, cats and dogs... OH! and Frank Zappa! Don't forget Frank!! And maybe guitars and screen door springs and lawn fertilizer and ...... ;-) On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: Out of curiosity, are y'all talking about Fiats or small cars? I keep hearing about hauling a half ton of supplies in a Fiat, does this not also rule out Mini, MG, classic motorcycles, Honda Fit, VW, Mazda 3, Toyota Yaris, Ford Focus, as well as guns, cats, and dogs, and almost everything else we talk about? This is not so much a question to Kathryn, as to the group, I just don't get the argument. It seems that people are saying they won't buy a Chrysler because they make a car that does not fit your needs, where as now people are not buying from Chrysler because they don't make a car that suits their needs. Semantics and circular logic, yes, but the problem for the for the US auto makers has had more to do with the cars they don't make than the ones that they do. At lunch a friend had a brochure on the Ford Fusion I was interested by the AWD, the V6, racy package - but it has a 90's type slushbox! Back to the imports! Drew -----Original Message----- From: Kathryn Bales Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:33 AM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Right now my Cherokee is sitting in the driveway holding 400# of horse feed, 200# of dog food, 40# of puppy food, 60# of cat food, 4 cases of Pepsi, and 200' of garden hose. Most Fiats that I have known would not have pulled that load across the pass to my house, let alone contained it all with room for me, a medium sized dog, and a human passenger. Kate Jim Johnson wrote: > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:34 PM, mike rambour wrote: > > >> I actually think the modern Fiat would hold up just fine BUT I also see >> it failing miserably in the U.S. anyway. You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Cheers!! Jim "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 6 13:56:26 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 12:56:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> Message-ID: <4A01EB6A.3080600@frontiernet.net> I once carried 9 bales of alfalfa home in and on my MG. I lived only 3 blocks from the feed store. The next day I brought home a 10' Christmas tree. Small cars can be useful when they are all you have and you are blessed with a creative imagination. I watched a woman stuff a complete king sized water bed in her RB Midget, load up her two children, and stop for groceries before beginning her 90 mile drive home. Kate Andrew Payne wrote: > Out of curiosity, are y'all talking about Fiats or small cars? I keep hearing about hauling a half ton of supplies in a Fiat, does this not also rule out Mini, MG, classic motorcycles, Honda Fit, VW, Mazda 3, Toyota Yaris, Ford Focus, as well as guns, cats, and dogs, and almost everything else we talk about? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 6 14:11:20 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:11:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <200905061229784.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> <200905061229784.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905061311k7097f2e8i43f057c445a4cf01@mail.gmail.com> You're a sick man, Peter..... Jim On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 02:05 PM 5/6/2009, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> Lessee.... guns, cats and dogs... OH! and Frank Zappa! Don't forget >> Frank!! And maybe guitars and screen door springs and lawn fertilizer >> and >> ...... ;-) >> > ==== > I missed the "screen door springs"! (thread) > I spent a lot of time on that! I wanted just the correct sound from my > yout. > > > Peter > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed May 6 14:15:35 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:15:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: References: <252192.47530.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000901c9ce61$89356fe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <402188520905060849m2fda31ecq26f18eacd224b301@mail.gmail.com> <4A01D4A7.90407@wi.net> Message-ID: Please pardon Dave, he meant to put his name to that last post. I added it in.. David Ya know, it' has a lot of potential, saves soooo much typing.. On May 6, 2009, at 2:46 PM, wrote: > Now ... if you're going to call the rest of us 'David', then I'll > certainly be > confused ... or at least have an excuse for the confusion that I > exhibit now. David > > >> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:19:19 -0500 >> From: dwoerpel at wi.net >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted >> >> I'm confused! >> >> David W. (Dave) >> >> >> >> David Lieb wrote: >>> No, David Lieb is doing the cam job, David Booker is doing the >>> clutch > job. >>> Is yourr name not David? Bound to cause confusion. Mind if we call >>> you > David? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 6 14:16:22 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:16:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: References: <252192.47530.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000901c9ce61$89356fe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <402188520905060849m2fda31ecq26f18eacd224b301@mail.gmail.com> <4A01D4A7.90407@wi.net> Message-ID: <402188520905061316n68b2b578re5836afb7578a208@mail.gmail.com> > Now ... if you're going to call the rest of us 'David', then I'll certainly be > confused ... or at least have an excuse for the confusion that I exhibit now. David Duquette, Are you trying to say that at some time you were NOT confused? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed May 6 14:18:01 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:18:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Home repair was Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <78DBB7D616A74E9CBA7B05263D406D2E@AndrewHP> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> <78DBB7D616A74E9CBA7B05263D406D2E@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <36A92EEA-4808-4232-9AEE-7D8F7E347C79@comcast.net> You lucky stiff, mine has noticed the cracks in the floor and wants a new floor... which means a slab repair... which means getting someone to diagnose why the damn thing cracked after 45 years.. Lest.. uhh.. David On May 6, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > Personally, I'm just doing everything I can to avoid painting the > living > room. > > > > Drew > > > > _____ > > From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:06 PM > To: Andrew Payne > Cc: Kathryn Bales; Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) > > > > I think this has now become a case of circular think. So many > people have > chimed in and changed the original course of discussion that no one > knows > what we are talking about anymore. I know that I sure don't!! ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > Lessee.... guns, cats and dogs... OH! and Frank Zappa! Don't > forget > Frank!! And maybe guitars and screen door springs and lawn > fertilizer and > ...... ;-) From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 6 14:19:08 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:19:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <4A01EB6A.3080600@frontiernet.net> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> <4A01EB6A.3080600@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <402188520905061319k37ce6a31j251b687501c9caaf@mail.gmail.com> David Johnson, Since you seem to have lost your score card... David Soave is correct. It doesn't always suck to be him. Now the line forms around the corner to take turns being him. I feel that we might have to start by asking for the rest of the pictures of Cafe' Girl. David Lieb From davegran at tds.net Wed May 6 14:22:22 2009 From: davegran at tds.net (Dave Grandeffo) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 15:22:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question Message-ID: <4A01F17E.70207@tds.net> David Riker wrote: > The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure > plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the > throw out bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to > rest that pushes back on the TO bearing.... > > David R. Not to start an argument, but every clutch I've worked on is supposed to be set up with a measurable amount of "Free Pedal". This means that the first small increment of clutch pedal travel (typically 1/2" -1" or thereabouts - check your manual) doesn't move the pressure plate. In other words, there should be no tension/pressure on the throwout bearing. A lack of free pedal means that the throwout bearing is being held against the pressure plate, is spinning constantly, and will have a greatly reduced life span. This is the same reason you shouldn't come up to a stop sign and stay in gear with the clutch disengaged, no matter what they say in driver's ed.... I've never had to replace a throwout bearing on one of my own cars and I usually keep 'em for over 200,000 miles before they succumb to the tin worm. A throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. -- Dave Grandeffo From bighealey at charter.net Wed May 6 14:33:03 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:33:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090506163303.N27X3.2233646.root@mp06> Dave's not here man ---- robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > Now ... if you're going to call the rest of us 'David', then I'll certainly be > confused ... or at least have an excuse for the confusion that I exhibit now. > > > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:19:19 -0500 > > From: dwoerpel at wi.net > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted > > > > I'm confused! > > > > David W. (Dave) > > > > > > > > David Lieb wrote: > > > No, David Lieb is doing the cam job, David Booker is doing the clutch > job. > > > Is yourr name not David? Bound to cause confusion. Mind if we call you > David? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 6 15:03:26 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:03:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <4A01F17E.70207@tds.net> References: <4A01F17E.70207@tds.net> Message-ID: <402188520905061403r1badb4f2gd5d66f38c87f7dc0@mail.gmail.com> > A throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. And that goes double for these carbon-faced cheapo things that those of us with non-1500 Spridgets are supposed to use. David Lieb From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 6 15:05:22 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:05:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Home repair was Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <36A92EEA-4808-4232-9AEE-7D8F7E347C79@comcast.net> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> <78DBB7D616A74E9CBA7B05263D406D2E@AndrewHP> <36A92EEA-4808-4232-9AEE-7D8F7E347C79@comcast.net> Message-ID: <402188520905061405n2b357972h6e1a9e0f236292ab@mail.gmail.com> > You lucky stiff, mine has noticed the cracks in the floor and wants a new > floor... which means a slab repair... which means getting someone to > diagnose why the damn thing cracked after 45 years.. Lest.. uhh.. David, Probably a tree root... David From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed May 6 15:13:03 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (David Lester) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:13:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite 50th emblem.. Message-ID: I hate to ask but is anyone else's losing the red enamel? Mine is starting to look chrome.. ok, not really chrome but the red is going away. Any particular color to use? David From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed May 6 15:29:37 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:29:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Picture In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$63vk44@email.mtu.edu> References: <7lku3e$63vk44@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <205cef430905061429m35a228bbk888d43f3b1912cd2@mail.gmail.com> Tim, I hope she wasn't in it. What ever happened to the little Bugeye? Lin On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > This blog site has a pic of Miss Hubbard's Bugeye Sprite UNDER Jack > Berweiler's Plymouth - an accident which took place on wet roads years ago. > > http://justacarguy.blogspot.com/ > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/_______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bighealey at charter.net Wed May 6 15:31:26 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:31:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hats Message-ID: <20090506173126.UWDK3.2237840.root@mp06> I use an Aussie hat, in fact I have 4 of them. Get them really tight and with a neck strap. ---- fastvee wrote: > Baseball caps work fine for short trips but I need more ear and neck protection. I want to try an Aussie bush hat. Has anyone tried this? Is the neck cord and slider enough to keep it on my head while driving? I am planning some long drives, I've already been burned this year, and I could benefit from the list experience on this. Any suggestions besides staying home or driving a tin top? > John > Fogelsville, PA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed May 6 15:40:51 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:40:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiat Message-ID: <37dc82d40905061440p7046b630if2ae2702187552b3@mail.gmail.com> I recall that the one main area that the Fiat failed were consistently blown head gaskets. Krk From spritenut at comcast.net Wed May 6 15:49:58 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:49:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <271320.91651.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <271320.91651.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A020606.6090102@comcast.net> Jay Fishbein wrote: > The next level of frustration beyond this, is to contact AT&T with an internet problem. > > I cut all ties with AT&T some years back due to their *service* -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From hmortada at aol.com Wed May 6 15:47:42 2009 From: hmortada at aol.com (hmortada at aol.com) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:47:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Barkes problems Message-ID: <8CB9CAB6B119D92-96C-BBF@MBLK-M34.sysops.aol.com> Hi List, a question in regards to barkes. I had no brakes on my 79 Spridget, pedal went all the way down and no stopping. I overhauled the master cylinder and want to install it, but if I still have no brakes where else should I start? Or I should take a look at the wheel cylindres first before I fill up with brake fluid? Suggestions would be appreciated! In regards to Fiat, they do make buses and truck in europe. They seem to be reliable out there. My experience with Fiats, they were fun cars, had the 124 and the 125, also the "Necar's" that is the version of the old 500's. Needed lots of TLC, but they were okay. I think they will do well in N. America. Cheers, Hadi...Ottawa, Ontario ________________________________________________________________________ GameVault: Play free online games at Gamevault.ca. Word arcade, puzzle and more. Play now! http://www.gamevault.ca/?icid=AOLGAM00310000000001 From spritenut at comcast.net Wed May 6 15:52:24 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 17:52:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Real Gold polished rear arrow badge...... In-Reply-To: <205cef430905060314r6e9d7343u837aa55919009efc@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905060314r6e9d7343u837aa55919009efc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A020698.3000405@comcast.net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Frank & List, > Is there another Bugeye rear gold arrow badge to purchase that is > really polished? I saw both Frankie Jr & Ladybug has really shinny > "real gold look" badges. The 2 badges I bought one being the 50 year > is a dull gold paint. Frank are you ordering "Real Gold" badges? > Lin Rick Moses had the 50 year arrows at Carlisle last year, they looked like junk from 10 feet away. Mine came from Australia via this list (David L) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Wed May 6 15:52:02 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <980950.19250.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The name's Woerpel. Booker D. Woerpel. --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) To: "Spridgets" Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 3:19 PM David Johnson, Since you seem to have lost your score card... David Soave is correct. It doesn't always suck to be him. Now the line forms around the corner to take turns being him. I feel that we might have to start by asking for the rest of the pictures of Cafe' Girl. David Lieb You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed May 6 15:58:47 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question Message-ID: <109589.30458.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The instructions on my goofy Tilton clutch are very good in this respect - you put the car in gear, wheels up in the air, verify wheels don't turn. With assistant trying to turn wheels (he's usually curling, but still...) verify pedal is depressed some amount (I forget their exact recommendation, say 5/16") when wheels release. Set stop at some distance past that (like 3/4") to prevent over throw. We set it up with a fancy dial indicator, then just did it by feel at the track when it acted totally different. --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Dave Grandeffo wrote: From: Dave Grandeffo Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 3:22 PM David Riker wrote: > The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the throw out bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to rest that pushes back on the TO bearing.... > > David R. Not to start an argument, but every clutch I've worked on is supposed to be set up with a measurable amount of "Free Pedal". This means that the first small increment of clutch pedal travel (typically 1/2" -1" or thereabouts - check your manual) doesn't move the pressure plate. In other words, there should be no tension/pressure on the throwout bearing. A lack of free pedal means that the throwout bearing is being held against the pressure plate, is spinning constantly, and will have a greatly reduced life span. This is the same reason you shouldn't come up to a stop sign and stay in gear with the clutch disengaged, no matter what they say in driver's ed.... I've never had to replace a throwout bearing on one of my own cars and I usually keep 'em for over 200,000 miles before they succumb to the tin worm. A throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. -- Dave Grandeffo You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed May 6 15:59:07 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question Message-ID: <74164.54759.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The instructions on my goofy Tilton clutch are very good in this respect - you put the car in gear, wheels up in the air, verify wheels don't turn. With assistant trying to turn wheels (he's usually curling, but still...) verify pedal is depressed some amount (I forget their exact recommendation, say 5/16") when wheels release. Set stop at some distance past that (like 3/4") to prevent over throw. We set it up with a fancy dial indicator, then just did it by feel at the track when it acted totally different. --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Dave Grandeffo wrote: From: Dave Grandeffo Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 3:22 PM David Riker wrote: > The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the throw out bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to rest that pushes back on the TO bearing.... > > David R. Not to start an argument, but every clutch I've worked on is supposed to be set up with a measurable amount of "Free Pedal". This means that the first small increment of clutch pedal travel (typically 1/2" -1" or thereabouts - check your manual) doesn't move the pressure plate. In other words, there should be no tension/pressure on the throwout bearing. A lack of free pedal means that the throwout bearing is being held against the pressure plate, is spinning constantly, and will have a greatly reduced life span. This is the same reason you shouldn't come up to a stop sign and stay in gear with the clutch disengaged, no matter what they say in driver's ed.... I've never had to replace a throwout bearing on one of my own cars and I usually keep 'em for over 200,000 miles before they succumb to the tin worm. A throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. -- Dave Grandeffo You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed May 6 15:59:19 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question Message-ID: <915157.30458.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The instructions on my goofy Tilton clutch are very good in this respect - you put the car in gear, wheels up in the air, verify wheels don't turn. With assistant trying to turn wheels (he's usually curling, but still...) verify pedal is depressed some amount (I forget their exact recommendation, say 5/16") when wheels release. Set stop at some distance past that (like 3/4") to prevent over throw. We set it up with a fancy dial indicator, then just did it by feel at the track when it acted totally different. --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Dave Grandeffo wrote: From: Dave Grandeffo Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 3:22 PM David Riker wrote: > The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the throw out bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to rest that pushes back on the TO bearing.... > > David R. Not to start an argument, but every clutch I've worked on is supposed to be set up with a measurable amount of "Free Pedal". This means that the first small increment of clutch pedal travel (typically 1/2" -1" or thereabouts - check your manual) doesn't move the pressure plate. In other words, there should be no tension/pressure on the throwout bearing. A lack of free pedal means that the throwout bearing is being held against the pressure plate, is spinning constantly, and will have a greatly reduced life span. This is the same reason you shouldn't come up to a stop sign and stay in gear with the clutch disengaged, no matter what they say in driver's ed.... I've never had to replace a throwout bearing on one of my own cars and I usually keep 'em for over 200,000 miles before they succumb to the tin worm. A throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. -- Dave Grandeffo You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed May 6 15:59:27 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question Message-ID: <435930.62634.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The instructions on my goofy Tilton clutch are very good in this respect - you put the car in gear, wheels up in the air, verify wheels don't turn. With assistant trying to turn wheels (he's usually curling, but still...) verify pedal is depressed some amount (I forget their exact recommendation, say 5/16") when wheels release. Set stop at some distance past that (like 3/4") to prevent over throw. We set it up with a fancy dial indicator, then just did it by feel at the track when it acted totally different. --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Dave Grandeffo wrote: From: Dave Grandeffo Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 3:22 PM David Riker wrote: > The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the throw out bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to rest that pushes back on the TO bearing.... > > David R. Not to start an argument, but every clutch I've worked on is supposed to be set up with a measurable amount of "Free Pedal". This means that the first small increment of clutch pedal travel (typically 1/2" -1" or thereabouts - check your manual) doesn't move the pressure plate. In other words, there should be no tension/pressure on the throwout bearing. A lack of free pedal means that the throwout bearing is being held against the pressure plate, is spinning constantly, and will have a greatly reduced life span. This is the same reason you shouldn't come up to a stop sign and stay in gear with the clutch disengaged, no matter what they say in driver's ed.... I've never had to replace a throwout bearing on one of my own cars and I usually keep 'em for over 200,000 miles before they succumb to the tin worm. A throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. -- Dave Grandeffo You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed May 6 15:59:28 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 14:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question Message-ID: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The instructions on my goofy Tilton clutch are very good in this respect - you put the car in gear, wheels up in the air, verify wheels don't turn. With assistant trying to turn wheels (he's usually curling, but still...) verify pedal is depressed some amount (I forget their exact recommendation, say 5/16") when wheels release. Set stop at some distance past that (like 3/4") to prevent over throw. We set it up with a fancy dial indicator, then just did it by feel at the track when it acted totally different. --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Dave Grandeffo wrote: From: Dave Grandeffo Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 3:22 PM David Riker wrote: > The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the throw out bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to rest that pushes back on the TO bearing.... > > David R. Not to start an argument, but every clutch I've worked on is supposed to be set up with a measurable amount of "Free Pedal". This means that the first small increment of clutch pedal travel (typically 1/2" -1" or thereabouts - check your manual) doesn't move the pressure plate. In other words, there should be no tension/pressure on the throwout bearing. A lack of free pedal means that the throwout bearing is being held against the pressure plate, is spinning constantly, and will have a greatly reduced life span. This is the same reason you shouldn't come up to a stop sign and stay in gear with the clutch disengaged, no matter what they say in driver's ed.... I've never had to replace a throwout bearing on one of my own cars and I usually keep 'em for over 200,000 miles before they succumb to the tin worm. A throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. -- Dave Grandeffo You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 6 16:02:46 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:02:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite 50th emblem.. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520905061502j311ffd12te7621e08372348ec@mail.gmail.com> > I hate to ask but is anyone else's losing the red enamel? Mine is starting > to look chrome.. ok, not really chrome but the red is going away. > Any particular color to use? > David Mine has lost the red in the "i" (no redeye is a feature on cameras, but not in Sprite arrows, I suppose). I was think that there is probably some shade of CFM red fingernail polish that would substitute well.... David Lieb From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed May 6 16:06:18 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:06:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: <555897.30432.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <490886.3689.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Sure thing... You can all me David... but *not* late for breakfast! Dave G. --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Booker wrote: > Is yourr name not David? Bound to cause confusion. Mind if > we call you David? From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed May 6 16:10:38 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Vegetables & Chocolate.... absolutely no LBC... Message-ID: <291702.3101.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8031737.stm Dave G. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed May 6 16:15:05 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 18:15:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: <402188520905061316n68b2b578re5836afb7578a208@mail.gmail.com> References: <252192.47530.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com><000901c9ce61$89356fe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8><402188520905060849m2fda31ecq26f18eacd224b301@mail.gmail.com><4A01D4A7.90407@wi.net> <402188520905061316n68b2b578re5836afb7578a208@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure ... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb > Now ... if you're going to call the rest of us 'David', then I'll certainly be > confused ... or at least have an excuse for the confusion that I exhibit now. David Duquette, Are you trying to say that at some time you were NOT confused? From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed May 6 16:16:43 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:16:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Question Message-ID: <37dc82d40905061516w71a22b27s81e6137e45afab98@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Just for recall, I am the guy who a long long time ago sent a gas tank to you. First off, I paint full time. I have painted numerous Harleys in two stage format, base color and clear, color sanding and buffing. . you know the whole bit. These days I am full time restoring guitar finishes on mostly very expensive vintage guitars. I currently have 4 in the "shop" and two more being sent to me Monday next week. I also have a very nice little walk in booth that I built on the side of our house. The guitar thing has been keeping me super busy. Most of my refinish work is in nitrocellulose lacquer, and also some in poly. I shoot burst jobs and flames from time to time as well. I shot an old guitar body the other day in white Rustoleum, Since this is a cheapo thing for myself - I thought I would experiment using Rustoleum as a base to go under a pearlized white. I was so impressed with how the Rustoleum flowed out of the gun and how it laid down that I began wondering if I should shoot my Bugeye with it? Currently, my BE is in a crappy yellow job (from the previous owner). My intent has been to eventually shoot it in Wimbledon White or Olde E. White. This would be me shooting the car in my prepped garage. However, since I have some experience in matching colors, I am also getting the idea to add a bit of grey into the formula (Rustoleum) in order to get as close as possible to look of Olde English White. (I have a color chart with Olde E. White to use as a reference). My BE is a quick little daily driver with a 1275, headers, OER Weber equivalent carb (DCOE 45 type), electric fan, electric fuel pump, high energy ignition and Pertronix sitting inside a Mallory dual point. Urethane bushings and lowered racing springs in front, sway bar. . .. Monza exhaust from Moss Motors. . just a bunch of stuff - rib case gear box, etc etc etc. Basically, a daily driver car (that I cannot stay out of). So I am not interested in getting the white "show time" perfect, but as close as possible to Olde English. Have you ever had any experience using Rustoleum on a car. . or know someone who has? I am also wondering how it buffs out as a single stage job? I guess I will have to shoot some on something to see how it might buff out. I want to be familiar with how it buffs out, if I can color sand it. . . being white it is subject to picking up a bit of debris that I would want to sand out and buff. And how it blends if I need to thin it out to the max and create a blend somewhere? For a non show car - I am thinking that this might be an inexpensive way to go with very decent results? Either that or I am losing my perspective on how to approach this! What is your take and what have you used for the white cars I have seen you build? The Holy Sprite was shot in white by you? Kirk From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed May 6 16:18:16 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 15:18:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite 50th emblem.. References: Message-ID: <96F154A7C8004E6BAB06F60408C0AB3D@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Funny you should ask, mine has the same problem. It was perfect when I got back from LotO, covered the car in the garage until I got around to the engine work. When I uncovered it a few months later, a big chip of red had vanished from the "S". I plan on just filling it in with one of the tiny bottles of Pactra enamel from the hobbyshop. Glen >I hate to ask but is anyone else's losing the red enamel? Mine is >starting to look chrome.. ok, not really chrome but the red is going >away. > > Any particular color to use? > > David From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 6 16:29:27 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:29:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <402188520905061319k37ce6a31j251b687501c9caaf@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> <4A01EB6A.3080600@frontiernet.net> <402188520905061319k37ce6a31j251b687501c9caaf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905061529k493f54fcw5ce229d80e202684@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 3:19 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > David Johnson, That's *MISTER* David to you..... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Wed May 6 16:30:19 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 18:30:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Event Announcement Message-ID: <8c1781040905061530v8879869k27ec6a54cb1e2c45@mail.gmail.com> Sorry to bomb the lists, but I here I go... It is one month away. June 5 and 6, 2009. The Louisville KY 25th British Bash! Registration is wrapping up and we need your help to make this a SPECTACULAR Bash! It is not too late to pre-register and help us out by entering your car and saving some $$$. http://www.britishbash.com In addition we have some changes in store. On Friday night this year we are having a Pub night for all registrants, with free appetizers starting at 6 p.m. until they run out, inexpensive eats and right priced beer and cocktails, ending up with sweet treat deals to top of those sweet dreams before you head home. So we will have something to meet your tummies needs and a great night saving you more than the cost of entry. Please go to the website and register. We will post the Pub night details this week for all entrants, their family friends and guest. Join us for the 25th anniversary Bash!! Thanks, Trevor From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 6 17:28:39 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 18:28:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fires & Website.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0905061628y71d316a3obaf7ced047c64de6@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, Mike Rambour advises that the Sprite-MidgetClub.org website is going to be up and down for a few days. There is a terrible fire blowing up just a couple miles from his new home and he has no power at the moment. The server with the club website on it is in his home so it will be up and down with the power situation. Keep your fingers crossed for Mike that he doesn't lose his home and stays physically safe.... -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed May 6 17:33:37 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 16:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fiat Message-ID: <311510.78145.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: "I recall that the one main area that the Fiat failed were consistently blown head gaskets." I don't know very much about it, but apparently timing belts were a common failure item. I had a friend in Nashville who used to keep spare belts all the time. Whenever he saw a Fiat parked under a tree or behind a house in obvious disuse he'd knock on the door to see if they wanted him to haul it off for them. If that didn't work, he would offer some ridiculously low price. He'd then come back with a battery, replace the belt, and in a short time drive it away. Never actually went with him to do this, but he seemed to have a "new" Fiat every few weeks. He would then do a quick detail job on it and sell it for a profit. His daily driver was an old Alfa Spider so he had been bitten by the Italian bug pretty badly. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed May 6 18:23:53 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 19:23:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <980950.19250.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <980950.19250.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A022A19.6030603@wi.net> As Booker D. and the MG Midgets. *Mr. *David S. Woerpel* * Ron Soave wrote: > The name's Woerpel. Booker D. Woerpel. > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 3:19 PM > > David Johnson, > Since you seem to have lost your score card... > David Soave is correct. It doesn't always suck to be him. Now the line > forms around the corner to take turns being him. I feel that we might > have to start by asking for the rest of the pictures of Cafe' Girl. > David Lieb From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed May 6 18:43:52 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 17:43:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] TB Bearing Resting / Clutch Springs Message-ID: <37dc82d40905061743h360d1ba1u90fe9d8a532acc97@mail.gmail.com> I noticed that the way the parts are sold via Moss is that the rod that pushes the TB arm/fork from the slave cyl snaps into the face of the slave cyl piston so that the rod is held back thus removing friction from the TB when your foot is off the clutch pedal. When re-doing my clutch it so happened that I did not have the same rod which would match up to the slave cyl piston and create this union. . . thus nothing in place to hold the rod back, and in turn to keep the TB off the springs when not needed, not in use. As such, I ran an outboard light weight spring to ensure that the carbon face on the TB is not consistently receiving friction from the clutch springs. The previous owner of my car had it set up in such a way that the TB *was*resting full time on the clutch springs. . that TB blew up after less than three thousand miles. The TB was cooked as well as the backing plate. It looked to me as though the entire unit was unable to take the constant friction that was placed upon it. I now have a few thousand miles with the outboard spring in place and everything seems to be working fine. It is interesting that opinions vary on this as much as they do. It seems to make sense that where you have friction you will also engender wear? Kirk 59 BE From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed May 6 19:10:54 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:10:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Home repair was Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) Message-ID: <200905070110.n471AptT026519@njbrsmtp1.vzwmail.net> Last weekend i put down hardwood floors, tile the week before. Currently, beats painting. Drew -----Original Message----- From: Lester Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:18 PM To: Spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Home repair was Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) You lucky stiff, mine has noticed the cracks in the floor and wants a new floor... which means a slab repair... which means getting someone to diagnose why the damn thing cracked after 45 years.. Lest.. uhh.. David On May 6, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > Personally, I'm just doing everything I can to avoid painting the > living > room. > > > > Drew > > > > _____ > > From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:06 PM > To: Andrew Payne > Cc: Kathryn Bales; Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) > > > > I think this has now become a case of circular think. So many > people have > chimed in and changed the original course of discussion that no one > knows > what we are talking about anymore. I know that I sure don't!! ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > Lessee.... guns, cats and dogs... OH! and Frank Zappa! Don't > forget > Frank!! And maybe guitars and screen door springs and lawn > fertilizer and > ...... ;-) You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Wed May 6 20:04:39 2009 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 19:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] TB Bearing Resting / Clutch Springs In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905061743h360d1ba1u90fe9d8a532acc97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <286515.3003.qm@web51603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> A similiar spring setup was standard on all of the classic Minis but it was atttached to the trowout arm and the slave cylinder --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: From: Kirk Hargreaves Subject: [Spridgets] TB Bearing Resting / Clutch Springs To: spridgets at autox.team.net Cc: davegran at tds.net Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 8:43 PM I noticed that the way the parts are sold via Moss is that the rod that pushes the TB arm/fork from the slave cyl snaps into the face of the slave cyl piston so that the rod is held back thus removing friction from the TB when your foot is off the clutch pedal. When re-doing my clutch it so happened that I did not have the same rod which would match up to the slave cyl piston and create this union. . . thus nothing in place to hold the rod back, and in turn to keep the TB off the springs when not needed, not in use. As such, I ran an outboard light weight spring to ensure that the carbon face on the TB is not consistently receiving friction from the clutch springs. The previous owner of my car had it set up in such a way that the TB *was*resting full time on the clutch springs. . that TB blew up after less than three thousand miles. The TB was cooked as well as the backing plate. It looked to me as though the entire unit was unable to take the constant friction that was placed upon it. I now have a few thousand miles with the outboard spring in place and everything seems to be working fine. It is interesting that opinions vary on this as much as they do. It seems to make sense that where you have friction you will also engender wear? Kirk 59 BE You are subscribed as racerbob70 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed May 6 20:58:27 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:58:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Question and More:) In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905061516w71a22b27s81e6137e45afab98@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905061516w71a22b27s81e6137e45afab98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1A1A3CA44BD84B87BBDC15BBE059CE4D@CatheyBPC> Have been following this "thread" (sorry Jay:) and just wanted to chip in based on my experiences (for whatever they are worth). Spray a cheap paint and you get just that..a cheap apint job that you WILL be redoing in a couple of years if not less. Spray a QUALITY paint (be it single stage or a QUALITY base coat / clear coat) and you will have a job that will stand the test of time with minimal upkeep. There REALLY is a reason almost every paint manufacturer has several different lines of paint ranging from cheap to quite expensive and it is one of the times when you really get what you pay for. This last weekend I showed Iris at Keels and Wheels Concous D Elegance and the greatest amount of comments I recived were on Iris's finish. How the paint was so slick and deep, yet with a slight amount of patina. No one belived me when I told them it was painted a little over 8 years ago. I definetly attribute Iris's looks to the fact that first and foremost the body work and base primers was done using the best of materials (etching primer and two part epoxy primers for subsequent coats during the block sanding stages), and second, the use of one of PPG's best single stage Urethanes. Yes, it cost me up front but I would be willing to bet that in 15 yrs she will look the same as she does now with a little care. I think one of the parts that has really amazed me is that I sprayed the motor with PPG's Deltron line of catalyzed paint and it has stood up so great to the engine heat (I also used an epoxy primer on the block before I sprayed the motor). Really amazing that it has and is standing up so good as it isnt high heat paint or designed for engines. As for the show, AMAZING and STUNNING cars. Dusenburgs, Delahay's , Lotus, Morgans, MG's, Mustangs, Jags, and allsorts of other historic and unique cars ( including the ONLY Tucker convertible in existence). It was a great weekend and the people and cars were absolutly great. Iris came away with a 2nd in class and I met lister Brian James there (time to come out of lurking modeBrian :)) and also several other people who have bugeyes around houston in various stages of completion. I will try and get pictures up somewhere soon for all to see. Leo From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed May 6 21:03:20 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:03:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Show link Message-ID: <7C9F1CFB5B784869BA43D1B66A565036@CatheyBPC> Forgot to addthe link for the show if anyone was interested:) http://www.keels-wheels.com/ Leo From davriker at nwi.net Wed May 6 21:39:34 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 20:39:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question References: <4A01F17E.70207@tds.net> Message-ID: <230BA98B1D85405AB8C131B031B1B188@MAIN> You would be right on most cars. But the throw out bearing on a stock A-series car doesn't have a true "throw out bearing". It has a self sacrificing carbon disc. More like a throw out bushing. It does not spin. Each of the parts of the MG clutch system were carefully minimized by bean counters to last no longer than 30,000 miles and to be completely worn out at almost the exact same time. I also said constant contact, not constant pressure. The system is self adjusting. If a spring is added to pull the carbon disc away from the mating surface on the pressure plate diaphram, it ceases to be self adjusting. A return spring would always pull the throw out bearing away from the pressure plate the maximum amount, requiring an adjustable push rod be substituted for the non adjustable one, and you would have to gradually lengthen the rod as the carbon bushing and friction surfaces wear out. David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Grandeffo" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question > David Riker wrote: >> The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure >> plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the >> throw out bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to >> rest that pushes back on the TO bearing.... >> >> David R. > Not to start an argument, but every clutch I've worked on is supposed to > be set up with a measurable amount of "Free Pedal". This means that the > first small increment of clutch pedal travel (typically 1/2" -1" or > thereabouts - check your manual) doesn't move the pressure plate. In > other words, there should be no tension/pressure on the throwout > bearing. A lack of free pedal means that the throwout bearing is being > held against the pressure plate, is spinning constantly, and will have a > greatly reduced life span. This is the same reason you shouldn't come up > to a stop sign and stay in gear with the clutch disengaged, no matter > what they say in driver's ed.... > > I've never had to replace a throwout bearing on one of my own cars and I > usually keep 'em for over 200,000 miles before they succumb to the tin > worm. A throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. > > -- > Dave Grandeffo > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.19/2099 - Release Date: 05/05/09 13:07:00 From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed May 6 21:53:07 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 22:53:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <271320.91651.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <878734.31929.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <271320.91651.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0905062053x7ab5c1a2q9971b4f421a88a16@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > The next level of frustration beyond this, is to contact AT&T with an > internet problem. > > After you're call gets escalated to someone on US territory, you go through > their BS machine . > >From my experience with SBC (aka AT&T, or whatever they call themselves today) skip the phone call and go straight to their direct support forum on DSLReports.com. It may take 1-3 days before they pick up your posting but then they are all over it until it's resolved! http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all?cat=60 From smarc at smarc.net Wed May 6 22:08:47 2009 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 00:08:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A025ECF.9010601@smarc.net> Ok, I have a spare clutch kit I can install if needed. The 'free pedal' concept makes sense to me. I'm guessing that there is some difference in my replacement slave cylinder, with the result effectively being that my push rod is now too long, keeping the TO bearing in contact with the diaphragm and causing an overthrow condition. In order to obtain the free pedal and appropriate TO bearing clearance, I suppose I'll need to shorten the push rod by some fractional increment(s) until I have it right. Hopefully, it's as simple as gaining the clearance necessary and there "should" be ample travel left for proper disengagement? Um, how far is too far (overthrow condition)? Ron Soave wrote: > The instructions on my goofy Tilton clutch are very good in this respect - you > put the car in gear, wheels up in the air, verify wheels don't turn. With > assistant trying to turn wheels (he's usually curling, but still...) verify > pedal is depressed some amount (I forget their exact recommendation, say > 5/16") when wheels release. Set stop at some distance past that (like 3/4") to > prevent over throw. We set it up with a fancy dial indicator, then just did it > by feel at the track when it acted totally different. > > --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Dave Grandeffo wrote: > > Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 3:22 PM > > David Riker wrote: > >> The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure >> > plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the throw out > bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to rest that pushes > back on the TO bearing.... > >> David R. >> > Not to start an argument, but every clutch I've worked on is supposed to be > set up with a measurable amount of "Free Pedal". This means that the first > small increment of clutch pedal travel (typically 1/2" -1" or thereabouts - > check your manual) doesn't move the pressure plate. In other words, there > should be no tension/pressure on the throwout bearing. A lack of free pedal > means that the throwout bearing is being held against the pressure plate, is > spinning constantly, and will have a greatly reduced life span. This is the > same reason you shouldn't come up to a stop sign and stay in gear with the > clutch disengaged, no matter what they say in driver's ed.... > > I've never had to replace a throwout bearing on one of my own cars and I > usually keep 'em for over 200,000 miles before they succumb to the tin worm. A > throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. > -- Marc From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed May 6 23:40:17 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 01:40:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Question References: <37dc82d40905061516w71a22b27s81e6137e45afab98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: "Kirk Hargreaves" > So I am not interested in getting the white "show time" perfect, but as > close as possible to Olde English. > > Have you ever had any experience using Rustoleum on a car. . or know someone > who has? I shot my Bugeye in Rustoleum Antique White and I was very pleased with the results. I believe it to be extremely close to the original OEW. Bear in mind that most Spridgets were originally painted in oil alkyd (aka Rustoleum) You can see some photo's here: http://tinyurl.com/djfk5n You can find more details in the list archives. I'm not going to argue with the modern paint proponents. But I would like to quote from the recent book "Automotive Paints and Coatings" Edited by Hans-Joachim Streitberger and Karl-Friedrich Dossel: "In 2006, alkyd-based monocoats were still being used to a minor extent in Europe, and to a larger extent in most other areas globally for entry-level passenger cars, light commercial vehicles, vans, and trucks. The dominant color in this segment is white." The only downside to oil alkyd enamel is the slow drying times between coats. The factory paint was baked on, so they did not have this issue. From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu May 7 00:34:41 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:34:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <402188520905061233ne755294q5394bccba035eed9@mail.gmail.com> References: <200905061804.n46I4cfK010640@njbrsmtp2.vzwmail.net> <43840a7e0905061205h6a8da773y25ce151f2df4ef2a@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905061233ne755294q5394bccba035eed9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A028101.4010301@frontiernet.net> I am also a Mopar fan. My present baby is Barry, a 1988 LeBaron convertible. Prior to that, I had an '86 LeBaron coupe that was amazingly dependable until the wrong shop got hold of him. My '98 Neon, aside from the weak head gasket, never gave me a bit of trouble. My other Cherokee gave me well over 400,000 nearly trouble free miles, and my Comanche 300,000. Old Blue is at 200,000, and gets 30 mpg while using less than a quart of oil between changes. If I buy another "new" car, it will most likely be another Chrysler product old enough to have wing windows. I don't care for car payments. Kate > I have owned a couple of Mopars and they all delivered above and > beyond the call of duty. No complaints from me. From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu May 7 00:36:53 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 23:36:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <200905061502.AA149553202@intrex.net> References: <200905061502.AA149553202@intrex.net> Message-ID: <4A028185.40709@frontiernet.net> You know that you are welcome any time. Bring weapons. We'll go shooting. Kate conan wrote: > Ya know.. ONE of these days I'm going to have enough of a job again to come out and visit... :-) > E > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 7 06:16:58 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 05:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NOW OT - AT&T - Team.Net status In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0905062053x7ab5c1a2q9971b4f421a88a16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <711410.84621.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thanks Jeff, My problem is this: - I had an independent 3rd party identify three problem switches. 2 in the AT&T network. - A level 2 tech agreed that 2 of their servers were timing-out. - Apparently after he attempted to either get them to route around these bad servers/nodes whatever, or fix them, upgrade them, AT&T decided to take the position that no problem exists. Those switches are still bad, they still time-out, were probably designed for a time when there was less network traffic, but until AT&T is threatened by a client larger than little old me, they will surely not do anything about it. This is not related to a residential account. It affects my business, just as taking to Level 1 techs in the Philipines and elsewhere for hours affects my business. AT&T doesn't care, jay fishbein wallingford, ct --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Jeff Foster wrote: From: Jeff Foster Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Team.Net status To: "Spridgets" Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 11:53 PM On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > The next level of frustration beyond this, is to contact AT&T with an > internet problem. > > After you're call gets escalated to someone on US territory, you go through > their BS machine . > >From my experience with SBC (aka AT&T, or whatever they call themselves today) skip the phone call and go straight to their direct support forum on DSLReports.com. It may take 1-3 days before they pick up your posting but then they are all over it until it's resolved! http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all?cat=60 You are subscribed as jfishbein at snet.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From davegran at tds.net Thu May 7 06:25:34 2009 From: davegran at tds.net (Dave Grandeffo) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 07:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <230BA98B1D85405AB8C131B031B1B188@MAIN> References: <4A01F17E.70207@tds.net> <230BA98B1D85405AB8C131B031B1B188@MAIN> Message-ID: <4A02D33E.7090400@tds.net> David Riker wrote: > You would be right on most cars. But the throw out bearing on a stock > A-series car doesn't have a true "throw out bearing". It has a self > sacrificing carbon disc. More like a throw out bushing. It does not > spin. Each of the parts of the MG clutch system were carefully > minimized by bean counters to last no longer than 30,000 miles and to > be completely worn out at almost the exact same time. I also said > constant contact, not constant pressure. The system is self > adjusting. If a spring is added to pull the carbon disc away from the > mating surface on the pressure plate diaphram, it ceases to be self > adjusting. A return spring would always pull the throw out bearing > away from the pressure plate the maximum amount, requiring an > adjustable push rod be substituted for the non adjustable one, and you > would have to gradually lengthen the rod as the carbon bushing and > friction surfaces wear out. > David R. > Let me qualify this then. *Disclaimer! Disclaimer!* *Opinion Follows!* In.. my.. opinion,* *bearing or bushing, rotating or sliding; if there is no clutch free pedal then wear on both the throwout "device", pressure plate fingers, and the clutch plate will be accelerated. Since the master cylinder and the clutch cylinder always retract to the same position, in order for there to be "constant contact" throughout the life of the clutch and TO, there would have to be heavy contact when first installed. Furthermore, a clutch disk shouldn't wear much after its initial bedding in unless it's being slipped and overheated a lot, something that can happen if the pressure plate fingers are being depressed since the clutch isn't being clamped fully. Bean counters or not, if you are not getting more than 30 thousand miles out of a clutch assembly then the installation and/or the driver is at fault. As long as the clutch releases when you want it to, there is no reason not to have free pedal. By the way, free pedal will also help prevent overtraveling the pressure plate and wrecking it that way. *Opinion Off* -- Dave Grandeffo From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 7 06:41:06 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:41:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Home repair was Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <200905070110.n471AptT026519@njbrsmtp1.vzwmail.net> References: <200905070110.n471AptT026519@njbrsmtp1.vzwmail.net> Message-ID: I would rather paint. Just don't look at my house for proof of this. :) DD > From: andrewpayne at intrex.net > > Last weekend i put down hardwood floors, tile the week before. Currently, > beats painting. > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lester > > You lucky stiff, mine has noticed the cracks in the floor and wants a > new floor... which means a slab repair... which means getting > someone to diagnose why the damn thing cracked after 45 years.. > > Lest.. uhh.. David > > > On May 6, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > > > Personally, I'm just doing everything I can to avoid painting the > > living > > room. > > > > Drew From dwramsey at att.net Thu May 7 07:23:48 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 06:23:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <4A02D33E.7090400@tds.net> Message-ID: <20090507132355.0A32C187878@autox.team.net> Since the master cylinder and the clutch cylinder always retract to the same position, -- Dave Grandeffo Whatever gave you that idea? Crash From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu May 7 08:55:53 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:55:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating Message-ID: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> We get a lot of salt spray on our lawn that rots out the mower deck, so I sprayed rubber undercoating left over from the car on the inside of my new mower to reduce corrosion. The first mowing scrubbed it all off. So I sprayed WD40 yesterday. It scrubbed off in minutes. I would not guess that flying grass is especially abrasive, but it is like media blasting. Any recommendations beyond hosing it off every time? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Bugeye kit Long Island, NY From rbastedo at gmail.com Thu May 7 09:15:16 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:15:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MGC books offered for sale - Carb book still available Message-ID: Carb book ($75) and Porter's book ($25) still for sale. The Carb book has an additional set of pages written by an MG Engineering Ltd. owner (Glenn Parker) that's very good, explaining how the carbs work in theory and detailing service practices. (I got "Real Good Money" for the MGC manual & handbook - both sold within half a day!!) 8-) Now to get back to that ebay list with all the Sprite parts on it... Rick Bastedo (oh yeah, buyin' some Sprite bits now) On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > Just in case some of you also own one or more MGC's... (or know someone who > does) > In case you are wondering how this is on topic at all, I'm trying to raise > funds to finish my Sprite. > > > I've also got the CARBURETTOR SERVICE PARTS LIST > Note - although the index lists the H1 carbs I can not find it in the book > and have no idea why it was omitted. > > http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_04.jpg > http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_01.jpg > http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_02.jpg > http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_03.jpg > http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_05.jpg > http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/su_06.jpg > > Next a nice 1984 copy of Lindsay Porter's > Guide to Purchase & DIY Restoration MGB > With supplementary information on MGC & MGB V8 > > The outer paper cover is a little spotty but not worn and under it the hard > covers are in excellent condition. > > http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgb_01.jpg > http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgb_02.jpg > http://www.bastedo.net/mgc/mgb_03.jpg > > 'Thanks for all the fish' > > Rick Bastedo From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 7 09:39:30 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 08:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question Message-ID: <220807.47524.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Marc wrote: >Um, how far is too far (overthrow condition)? Not far - Paul A. gave me some good dimensions that he measured a while ago and I made up a shim tool to measure it (memory says like 7/10"??). I'll check it tonight and report back so it can be disputed by the rest of the list. Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 7 10:33:18 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:33:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> References: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905070933o5f70d8e5gc5d80104c2f36abb@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Any recommendations beyond hosing it off every time? POC, Mike! Hire someone to come over and mow for you. Do the numbers. Might actually turn out as cheap or cheaper than replacing the deck every 2 years, eh? ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 7 10:43:40 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:43:40 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> References: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> Message-ID: You're looking at this all wrong ... you've discovered a new way to media blast that should somehow be adapted to be used on our projects!!! ;) Powder coating ??? DD > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:55:53 -0400 > > We get a lot of salt spray on our lawn that rots out the mower deck, so I sprayed rubber undercoating left over from the car on the inside of my new mower to reduce corrosion. The first mowing scrubbed it all off. So I sprayed WD40 yesterday. It scrubbed off in minutes. I would not guess that flying grass is especially abrasive, but it is like media blasting. Any recommendations beyond hosing it off every time? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Bugeye kit > Long Island, NY From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu May 7 11:13:32 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:13:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: References: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> Message-ID: <684D43079C7247B0B1D6ABB5C3466B78@BASEMENTDELL> Exactly! I'm going to push mine out into the yard and get the lawn done and kill two squirrels with one blade... Maybe a roofing paint? Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:44 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Undercoating You're looking at this all wrong ... you've discovered a new way to media blast that should somehow be adapted to be used on our projects!!! ;) Powder coating ??? DD From conan at intrex.net Thu May 7 11:44:15 2009 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:44:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT Message-ID: <200905071344.AA78971166@intrex.net> per a David... >>I don't know very much about it, but apparently timing belts were a common failure item. The owner's manual called for their replacement at 30,000 miles. No one did. They would -often- break within a few thousand past the 30k mark. Just ask my cousin, David... :-) Ed in NC From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu May 7 11:50:37 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 10:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating Message-ID: <209081.20342.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Mike, You may have seen the chip-resistant coating that is applied to rocker panels and then painted over in body color. This is a product that I believe would work. A special applicator is required but you may be able to drop the mower at a body shop to have it applied. http://tinyurl.com/chsjf4 John Fogelsville, PA --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Michael Rowe wrote: Any recommendations beyond hosing it off > every time? From nlaredbt7 at tbc.net Thu May 7 12:20:34 2009 From: nlaredbt7 at tbc.net (Neil Anderson) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 13:20:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating References: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> Message-ID: You might try some spary on chip-guard clear paint like they put on rocker and quarter panels. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating > We get a lot of salt spray on our lawn that rots out the mower deck, so I > sprayed rubber undercoating left over from the car on the inside of my new > mower to reduce corrosion. The first mowing scrubbed it all off. So I > sprayed WD40 yesterday. It scrubbed off in minutes. I would not guess > that flying grass is especially abrasive, but it is like media blasting. > Any recommendations beyond hosing it off every time? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Bugeye kit > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nlaredbt7 at tbc.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mikey at b2systems.com Thu May 7 12:38:04 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 11:38:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <200905071344.AA78971166@intrex.net> References: <200905071344.AA78971166@intrex.net> Message-ID: <1241721484.6900.28.camel@WebBrowser> And it was so dammed easy to change them too. I feel that was the biggest problem with Fiat and American's the first time Fiat was in the U.S. Americans were so used to drive them until you trade them in that they did not required maintenance on the Fiat and when it broke, what a POS was their comment. I have never broken a timing belt and I got 230,000 miles on my Fiat, never saw a tow truck and never parked on the side of the road unless my wife and I wanted to park. Oh well, it will be interesting to see how Fiat does this time around. Its been said that its a different generation and Fiat will be starting from scratch this time but I don't believe it...kids grew up hearing Fix It Again Tony from their dads. My wife is waiting for the 500 desperately...she owned a '59 Fiat 500 in college and loved that car. It will be odd that a multi-Fiat garage again. mike On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 13:44 -0400, conan wrote: > per a David... > >>I don't know very much about it, but apparently timing belts were a common failure item. > > The owner's manual called for their replacement at 30,000 miles. No one did. They would -often- break within a few thousand past the 30k mark. Just ask my cousin, David... :-) > Ed in NC > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 7 12:44:08 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <1241721484.6900.28.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <105251.45415.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> One of my favorite sports cars was the 124 Spider. Great design, practical size, fun to drive and the top could be thrown down in a second. jay fishbein wallingford, ct --- On Thu, 5/7/09, mike rambour wrote: From: mike rambour Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT To: conan at intrex.net Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 2:38 PM And it was so dammed easy to change them too. I feel that was the biggest problem with Fiat and American's the first time Fiat was in the U.S. From davegran at tds.net Thu May 7 12:50:00 2009 From: davegran at tds.net (Dave Grandeffo) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 13:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating Message-ID: <4A032D58.2060001@tds.net> Michael Rowe wrote: > We get a lot of salt spray on our lawn that rots out the mower deck, so I sprayed rubber undercoating left over from the car on the inside of my new mower to reduce corrosion. The first mowing scrubbed it all off. So I sprayed WD40 yesterday. It scrubbed off in minutes. I would not guess that flying grass is especially abrasive, but it is like media blasting. Any recommendations beyond hosing it off every time? > The Locost builders are starting to use bed liner for pickup trucks on their rear fenders to resist the clagg being thrown off the front tires. They say it is very effective. -- Dave Grandeffo From bighealey at charter.net Thu May 7 12:53:00 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:53:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <105251.45415.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090507145300.B31FE.2290002.root@mp13> I had a 78 1800 and loved it. The top WAS easy and worked. It had great balance. Unfortunatly it did have an annoying weakness. The sumps are unusually low and prone to roadrash or worse crushing. Since the oil pump pick up is so low in the sump it would break the oil pump mleaving you stranded without oil pressure. After three pumps and a braising to fix pinholes I gave up and sold it. Shortly after some one came out with a modified sump, shorter pick up and get this a skid plate. As a spirited kid I needed the skid plate in Colorado with all the above ground drainage dips. Wheeeeee !!! ---- Jay Fishbein wrote: > One of my favorite sports cars was the 124 Spider. Great design, practical size, fun to drive and the top could be thrown down in a second. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, mike rambour wrote: > From: mike rambour > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT > To: conan at intrex.net > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 2:38 PM > > And it was so dammed easy to change them too. > > I feel that was the biggest problem with Fiat and American's the first > time Fiat was in the U.S. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu May 7 13:09:43 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating Message-ID: <444662.88997.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Good one Neil, I didn't see that. Then it's easily DIY. http://tinyurl.com/ckesba John Fogelsville, PA --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Neil Anderson wrote: > You might try some spary on > chip-guard clear paint like they put on rocker and quarter > panels. From mikey at b2systems.com Thu May 7 13:19:03 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 12:19:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <105251.45415.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <105251.45415.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1241723943.6900.31.camel@WebBrowser> me too, I miss that car... I bought my 1973 124 Spider in Feb. 1974 and sold it Nov. last year...34 years with that great car. It came down to 124 or Dino which one do I love more because when i moved i was moving to a smaller garage. Sure wish I had a crystal ball because right after we moved, we doubled the garage and I now have enough space for 3 or 4 cars. mike On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 11:44 -0700, Jay Fishbein wrote: > One of my favorite sports cars was the 124 Spider. Great design, practical size, fun to drive and the top could be thrown down in a second. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, mike rambour wrote: > From: mike rambour > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT > To: conan at intrex.net > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 2:38 PM > > And it was so dammed easy to change them too. > > I feel that was the biggest problem with Fiat and American's the first > time Fiat was in the U.S. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 7 13:22:05 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 12:22:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <1241723943.6900.31.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <123971.66451.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> ebay item #260404455714 --- On Thu, 5/7/09, mike rambour wrote: From: mike rambour Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT To: "Jay Fishbein" Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 3:19 PM me too, I miss that car... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 7 13:22:43 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:22:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <20090507145300.B31FE.2290002.root@mp13> References: <105251.45415.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20090507145300.B31FE.2290002.root@mp13> Message-ID: I loved mine too. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/Cherry.htm I liked that you didn't have to even stop the car to put up or take down the top; just slow down. I had no such problems with the sump, but I did break 2 clutch cables, which was really annoying. Both times I managed to drive home... I thought it was a touch light in the rear, if my non-existant memory serves me correctly. RD > Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 11:53:00 -0700 > > I had a 78 1800 and loved it. The top WAS easy and worked. > > It had great balance. > > Unfortunatly it did have an annoying weakness. The sumps are unusually low and prone to roadrash or worse crushing. Since the oil pump pick up is so low in the sump it would break the oil pump mleaving you stranded without oil pressure. After three pumps and a braising to fix pinholes I gave up and sold it. > > Shortly after some one came out with a modified sump, shorter pick up and get this a skid plate. > > As a spirited kid I needed the skid plate in Colorado with all the above ground drainage dips. > > Wheeeeee !!! > ---- Jay Fishbein wrote: > > One of my favorite sports cars was the 124 Spider. Great design, practical size, fun to drive and the top could be thrown down in a second. > > > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > > > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, mike rambour wrote: > > From: mike rambour > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT > > To: conan at intrex.net > > Cc: "Spridgets" > > Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 2:38 PM > > > > And it was so dammed easy to change them too. > > > > I feel that was the biggest problem with Fiat and American's the first > > time Fiat was in the U.S. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Thu May 7 13:23:16 2009 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 15:23:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> References: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> Message-ID: <6B428E67-1D3F-4744-BEEE-0189AA1EC5E5@gmail.com> On May 7, 2009, at 10:55 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > . It scrubbed off in minutes. I would not guess that flying grass > is especially abrasive, but it is like media blasting. Michael, I lived in Florida for a year. One day, while I was mowing the grass, my wife signaled to me that I needed to answer a phone call. We lived in the country on a small farm and I turned the idle on the mower down and went to answer the phone. About 1/2 hour later I got back to the mower. The blade ends were paper thin from all the sand blasting against them while it was running and the deck had been etched from the underside. I sprayed the deck with Rocker Schutz and replaced the blade. The Rocker Schutz held up well....... Kevin V. From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu May 7 13:59:48 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 15:59:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <684D43079C7247B0B1D6ABB5C3466B78@BASEMENTDELL> References: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> <684D43079C7247B0B1D6ABB5C3466B78@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: I actually have most of a can of roofing tar left over from patching a friend's roof. (The friend loans me her shop for my LBC's. Roof repairs are a cheap price to pay.) I will try it. It can't be worse than nothing. Michael Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Manuel" To: ; "'Spridgets'" Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Undercoating > Exactly! I'm going to push mine out into the yard and get the lawn done > and > kill two squirrels with one blade... > > Maybe a roofing paint? > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > robertduquette at sympatico.ca > Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 11:44 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Undercoating > > You're looking at this all wrong ... you've discovered a new way to media > blast that should somehow be adapted to be used on our projects!!! ;) > > > > Powder coating ??? > > > > DD > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu May 7 14:02:51 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 15:02:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <105251.45415.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <105251.45415.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5D8F0020-B843-4F34-B326-02A6A9294056@comcast.net> .. and with a quick cut from a tin snip you could get the second barrel of the carb to open when it should! Then that puppy was quick! Of course, the door grab handles ripped off all the time .. well my wife ripped them off all the time anyway, and the dizzy rotor would periodically disintegrate.. Lester '69 124 1498 cc On May 7, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > One of my favorite sports cars was the 124 Spider. Great design, > practical size, fun to drive and the top could be thrown down in a > second. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, mike rambour wrote: > From: mike rambour > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT > To: conan at intrex.net > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 2:38 PM > > And it was so dammed easy to change them too. > > I feel that was the biggest problem with Fiat and American's the first > time Fiat was in the U.S. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jmj3351 at comcast.net Thu May 7 14:46:18 2009 From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <5D8F0020-B843-4F34-B326-02A6A9294056@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1233832305.6290231241729178942.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> The only thing worse than the Fiat cars were the Fiat dealers.B I bought a new Fiat in 1973 and had two great days with it. The day I bought it and the day I sold it. JMJ - Green 1500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" To: "Jay Fishbein" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 4:02:51 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT .. and with a quick cut from a tin snip you could get the second B barrel of the carb to open when it should! B Then that puppy was B quick! B Of course, the door grab handles ripped off all the time .. B well my wife ripped them off all the time anyway, and the dizzy rotor B would periodically disintegrate.. Lester '69 124 1498 cc On May 7, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > One of my favorite sports cars was the 124 Spider. Great design, B > practical size, fun to drive and the top could be thrown down in a B > second. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, mike rambour wrote: > From: mike rambour > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT > To: conan at intrex.net > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 2:38 PM > > And it was so dammed easy to change them too. > > I feel that was the biggest problem with Fiat and American's the first > time Fiat was in the U.S. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net B http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 7 14:52:41 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:52:41 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] MP3 files NO LBC Message-ID: Hi list, I've finally managed to get our new telly to play MP3 files from an MP 3 player (reading the instructions was a big help in this respect). However, I don't have an MP3 player (my daughter does). I know I can buy one but the TV will play MP3 files from a USB stick which I do have. The problem is that the music files on my PC are WMA and not MP3 so the telly won't play them. Is there a real simple way to convert my WMA files to MP3 so I don't have to go and buy an MP3 player? Thanks Weslake-Monza From pythias at pacifier.com Thu May 7 15:15:31 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 14:15:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MP3 files NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <16110606244.20090507141531@pacifier.com> Hello WeslakeMonza1330, do the google search and take your choice of freeware -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" To know yourself is the ultimate form of aggression. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu May 7 15:24:09 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 16:24:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <123971.66451.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <123971.66451.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <96BCA809-2100-4C6B-BB7C-74B393399941@comcast.net> Too new.. ;-) Lester On May 7, 2009, at 2:22 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > ebay item #260404455714 > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, mike rambour wrote: > From: mike rambour > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT > To: "Jay Fishbein" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 3:19 PM > > me too, I miss that car... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 7 16:22:52 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 18:22:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ Message-ID: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> I hope you can see this better than my home computer which is very slow. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhcixlCug-Q&feature=channel_page Enjoy, Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 7 16:54:34 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 18:54:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> References: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> Message-ID: <205cef430905071554h193abbct763b6e0f98ad6c51@mail.gmail.com> Mike,When I bought my first "new" mower I hosed it off every time outside and underneath. She still looks like new 10 years later. It is a lot easier than you may think and makes your mower shine like new. Lin On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > We get a lot of salt spray on our lawn that rots out the mower deck, so I > sprayed rubber undercoating left over from the car on the inside of my new > mower to reduce corrosion. The first mowing scrubbed it all off. So I > sprayed WD40 yesterday. It scrubbed off in minutes. I would not guess that > flying grass is especially abrasive, but it is like media blasting. Any > recommendations beyond hosing it off every time? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Bugeye kit > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 7 17:09:48 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:09:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Question In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40905061516w71a22b27s81e6137e45afab98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905071609t20111674t2d4f446b5ea41285@mail.gmail.com> Dean,I didn't know Spridgets were originally painted in oil alkyd (aka Rustoleum) very cool info but I can see the slow drying of rustoleum can bring trouble can't an additive drier be added? Also Kirk I love guitars have several and still play poorly because of little practice can you send me a link of your before and after photos? I read a site on how to do the sunburst pattern and want to give it a try on one of my crappy brands. Any tips? BTW I am designing a guitar adapter to hold the flying V and applying for a patent so I can help my engineering students apply for their own via my success & frustration of the USPTO. I have a guitar store who want's to buy a bunch & sell them in his store. Guitars & Spridgets are so synonymous via the art of the "machine". Lin On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Dean Hedin wrote: > From: "Kirk Hargreaves" > >> So I am not interested in getting the white "show time" perfect, but as >> close as possible to Olde English. >> >> Have you ever had any experience using Rustoleum on a car. . or know >> someone >> who has? >> > > I shot my Bugeye in Rustoleum Antique White and I was very pleased with the > results. > I believe it to be extremely close to the original OEW. > Bear in mind that most Spridgets were originally painted in oil alkyd (aka > Rustoleum) > > You can see some photo's here: http://tinyurl.com/djfk5n > You can find more details in the list archives. > > I'm not going to argue with the modern paint proponents. > But I would like to quote from the recent book "Automotive Paints and > Coatings" Edited by > Hans-Joachim Streitberger and Karl-Friedrich Dossel: > > "In 2006, alkyd-based monocoats were still being used to a minor extent in > Europe, > and to a larger extent in most other areas globally for entry-level > passenger cars, light > commercial vehicles, vans, and trucks. The dominant color in this segment > is white." > > The only downside to oil alkyd enamel is the slow drying times between > coats. > The factory paint was baked on, so they did not have this issue. > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Thu May 7 17:13:16 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 23:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ In-Reply-To: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <710800801.3499731241737996786.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Frank, what buzzer are you using for the turn signal? THAT one I can hear over the radio and the exhaust. Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner " < grunthaner @ gmail .com> To: " Spridget list" < spridgets @ autox .team.net> Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 6:22:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [ Spridgets ] Lady Bug on youtube ........ I hope you can see this better than my home computer which is very slow. http :// www . youtube .com/watch?v=ZhcixlCug-Q&feature= channel_page Enjoy, Lin _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http :// www .team.net/donate. html You are subscribed as ryan . kubanoff @comcast.net http :// www .team.net/archive http :// autox .team.net/mailman/ listinfo / spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 7 17:19:04 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:19:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Portable garage from PepBoys for your Spridget or paint booth. Message-ID: <205cef430905071619t6de04b2dh2632194712b72e99@mail.gmail.com> List I bought a 10x20 portable garage from PepBoys a few weeks ago it has 3" wide, thick wall powder coated poles and I am amazed at how dry it is inside actually dryer than the concrete block garage, probably because the unsealed concrete floor in the garage acts like a sponge. If there are any of you Spridgeteers out there who need to shelter their cars this really works well and will also serve as a paint booth. PepBoys sell them for $265 and it takes 2 people to pick the box up. I laid out all the parts and had the whole thing including the plastic type cover installed single handed in 2.5 hrs. (I'm creative) but you will need a ladder and rope to get the top on. Lin From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu May 7 17:37:15 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 16:37:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <105251.45415.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > the 124 Spider. Great design, They were fun as long as the A-arms didn't fall off. Unfortunately, they usually did. From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 7 18:03:27 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:03:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <661546.84102.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <661546.84102.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905071703h4666991epa0809fecefdf2e7c@mail.gmail.com> Ron nice pics.Hey how long did it take for your Rustolium paint job on your Bugeye to dry? Lin On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > In the "maybe it doesn't always suck to be me" category, I was in Italy > last week on business. I've uploaded a bunch of unorganized photos, some of > which are the very cool little cars of Italy. Also as a card carrying > Ginzalone, I felt it necessary to take a few of the food you see just > wandering the streets. I was in Genoa, and there are also a bunch of Cinque > Terre, where I spent last Saturday. By far, the best business trip I've ever > been on. > > http://photobucket.com/Soave_Italy > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From biffjones at verizon.net Thu May 7 18:07:58 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:07:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Question References: <37dc82d40905061516w71a22b27s81e6137e45afab98@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Kirk, etal, Here's a link to a guy's site who did his car (Corvair) in Rustolem white. While his method is time and labor extensive it worked. Another group I belong to (Scotty Trailer Group) use either Ace Hardware's version of Rustolem or True Values version. They spay after cutting the paint with thinner at 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner (cool weather) or 4 parts paint to 1 part thinner for hotter temps. Oh and they are using white also. Link: http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite http://sprites2.homestead.com/ [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.21/2102 - Release Date: 05/07/09 05:57:00 From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 7 18:17:58 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 17:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <965201.74199.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Personally, I like the look in the first picture. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Biff Jones wrote: From: Biff Jones Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint Question To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 8:07 PM Kirk, etal, Here's a link to a guy's site who did his car (Corvair) in Rustolem white. Link: http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 7 18:52:31 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:52:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Question In-Reply-To: <965201.74199.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <965201.74199.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905071752x7a1ceb89rb6c767c424a670e0@mail.gmail.com> Jay,I hear you on that, there is something about the rat look that appeals to me too. I guess that's why I like junk yards too : ) Lin On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > Personally, I like the look in the first picture. > > Jay Fishbein > Wallingford, CT > > --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Biff Jones wrote: > From: Biff Jones > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint Question > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 8:07 PM > > Kirk, etal, > > Here's a link to a guy's site who did his car (Corvair) in Rustolem > white. > > Link: http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu May 7 19:36:52 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 21:36:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> References: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> Message-ID: <4A038CB4.2010000@comcast.net> Michael Rowe wrote: > We get a lot of salt spray on our lawn that rots out the mower deck, Get an aluminum or magnesium deck mower. Heck they make em out of plastic these days! I had an old magnesium deck mower that lasted me 12 years after I picked it up in the trash. Then I bought a new mower with a Briggs & Straton, and learned that mexican Briggs engines just were not the same as good ole USA Briggs engines. Now I have a Honda mower and it has been great for over 10 years. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 7 20:13:50 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 21:13:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <4A038CB4.2010000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <> Frank, you ABOVE everybody else should NOT have said a WORD !!!!! Watch out....... 'Hopper From spritenut at comcast.net Thu May 7 20:32:19 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:32:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A0399B3.708@comcast.net> Ed's Shop wrote: > <> > > Frank, you ABOVE everybody else should NOT have said a WORD !!!!! > It was the only mower made in USA at the time. All others had mexican engines. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 7 20:35:15 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 19:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating Message-ID: <201578.42902.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> HELL, you CAN mow those Jersyy lots with a WEEDWHACKER!!! - Ed --- On Thu, 5/7/09, Frank wrote: From: Frank Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Undercoating To: "Ed's Shop" Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 9:32 PM Ed's Shop wrote: > <> > > Frank, you ABOVE everybody else should NOT have said a WORD !!!!! > It was the only mower made in USA at the time. All others had mexican engines. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 7 21:39:59 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:39:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ In-Reply-To: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905072039t5c0722e9y86cba9313e87d3cd@mail.gmail.com> Love it! Nice video, Lin! Great job on the car, Frank. One of your best. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I hope you can see this better than my home computer which is very slow. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhcixlCug-Q&feature=channel_page > > Enjoy, Lin > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 7 21:42:10 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 22:42:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Portable garage from PepBoys for your Spridget or paint booth. In-Reply-To: <205cef430905071619t6de04b2dh2632194712b72e99@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905071619t6de04b2dh2632194712b72e99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905072042i759d3030r92e7255e38a9c45a@mail.gmail.com> Great news, Lin. I will be looking for a paint booth late this summer for my Midget. Trouble is, the nearest Pep Boys to me is 176 miles to the east in Wichita, KS... ;-( Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List I bought a 10x20 portable garage from PepBoys a few weeks ago it has > 3" > wide, thick wall powder coated poles and I am amazed at how dry it is > inside > actually dryer than the concrete block garage, probably because the > unsealed > concrete floor in the garage acts like a sponge. If there are any of you > Spridgeteers out there who need to shelter their cars this really works > well > and will also serve as a paint booth. PepBoys sell them for $265 and it > takes 2 people to pick the box up. I laid out all the parts and had the > whole thing including the plastic type cover installed single handed in 2.5 > hrs. (I'm creative) but you will need a ladder and rope to get the top on. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu May 7 22:23:46 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 23:23:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ In-Reply-To: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A03B3D2.7000604@wi.net> Well done Linda and Frank!! And in the rain, John Frankenheimer couldn't have done it better ;-) Sounded great too. Dave W. Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I hope you can see this better than my home computer which is very slow. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhcixlCug-Q&feature=channel_page > > Enjoy, Lin From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 7 22:27:48 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 23:27:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ In-Reply-To: <4A03B3D2.7000604@wi.net> References: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> <4A03B3D2.7000604@wi.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905072127h5df39aebrdf51b76dc3c5130b@mail.gmail.com> Frankenheimer?? You mean the guy who made the monster?? I'll bet Frank could make a better one! Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:23 PM, David Woerpel wrote: > Well done Linda and Frank!! And in the rain, John Frankenheimer couldn't > have done it better ;-) > Sounded great too. > > Dave W. > > > > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> I hope you can see this better than my home computer which is very slow. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhcixlCug-Q&feature=channel_page >> >> Enjoy, Lin >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu May 7 22:38:42 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 23:38:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905072127h5df39aebrdf51b76dc3c5130b@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> <4A03B3D2.7000604@wi.net> <43840a7e0905072127h5df39aebrdf51b76dc3c5130b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A03B752.9030005@wi.net> Ed? Did you sign Jim's name? ;-) anon. Jim Johnson wrote: > Frankenheimer?? You mean the guy who made the monster?? I'll bet > Frank could make a better one! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:23 PM, David Woerpel > wrote: > > Well done Linda and Frank!! And in the rain, John Frankenheimer > couldn't have done it better ;-) > Sounded great too. > > Dave W. From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 8 03:01:19 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 04:01:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905070933o5f70d8e5gc5d80104c2f36abb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Da*n, I HATE to admit that JJ actually has a relevant 'truism but... (note: out of order but still quotes) <> Several years ago & just for giggles I asked a guy I knew and a good buddy of a buddy of mine for a price on doing my THREE section, HALF acre "little piece of heaven". Mark gave me a price. <> He was 'hired' on the spot !!!!! ALL he (& his crew of 3) does IS mow and edge trim. 'Free' spring & fall 'clean-up' is included. Sidewalks & drive ARE hi-pressure blown off (and collected and removed). He & crew in/out of our "little piece of heaven" in average of TWENTY minutes !!!! It averaged ME 3 hours 45 minutes plus gas PLUS I had to buy the mower and edger AND maintain them. Two plus Two was NOT FOUR!!!! Me PS: and after owning the equipment for 7 years, I got $500 for $1400 rider and $20 for gas powered edger!!! From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 8 03:21:12 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 04:21:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905072039t5c0722e9y86cba9313e87d3cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Damn, twice in ONE day !!! <> Ditto. <> Ditto!!! <> Ditto. <> HeeHee Jim, you do NOT know Tiff as well as I do !! Frank had NO choice!!! A MAD Tiff is NOT a 'pretty' thing, right Frank!! LMAO!!!!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 8 03:39:21 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 04:39:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Home repair was Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> er RD, wouldn't this be the year for PAINTING your wonderful SWIMMING POOL ????? LMAO Get to WORK !!!!!! Anon From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 8 04:36:57 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 06:36:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Portable garage from PepBoys for your Spridget or paint booth. In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905072042i759d3030r92e7255e38a9c45a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905071619t6de04b2dh2632194712b72e99@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905072042i759d3030r92e7255e38a9c45a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905080336m1961cf8fla641848607e4f092@mail.gmail.com> Jim, Sorry to hear that. Try looking for other portable sheds. If you fasten each pole to the ground with a stake they are pretty sturdy. Let me know how you make out but look at the poles before buying. Lin On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Great news, Lin. I will be looking for a paint booth late this summer for > my Midget. Trouble is, the nearest Pep Boys to me is 176 miles to the east > in Wichita, KS... ;-( > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> List I bought a 10x20 portable garage from PepBoys a few weeks ago it >> has 3" >> wide, thick wall powder coated poles and I am amazed at how dry it is >> inside >> actually dryer than the concrete block garage, probably because the >> unsealed >> concrete floor in the garage acts like a sponge. If there are any of you >> Spridgeteers out there who need to shelter their cars this really works >> well >> and will also serve as a paint booth. PepBoys sell them for $265 and it >> takes 2 people to pick the box up. I laid out all the parts and had the >> whole thing including the plastic type cover installed single handed in >> 2.5 >> hrs. (I'm creative) but you will need a ladder and rope to get the top on. >> Lin >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am > not > sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri May 8 04:40:08 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 06:40:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ In-Reply-To: <4A03B3D2.7000604@wi.net> References: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> <4A03B3D2.7000604@wi.net> Message-ID: <205cef430905080340j422b100bu6c81077b70fdbdbc@mail.gmail.com> And she sounder so much better when she got more gas. Hey Frank didn't you say that was your first paint job done all by yourself? Lin On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:23 AM, David Woerpel wrote: > Well done Linda and Frank!! And in the rain, John Frankenheimer couldn't > have done it better ;-) > Sounded great too. > > Dave W. > > > > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> I hope you can see this better than my home computer which is very slow. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhcixlCug-Q&feature=channel_page >> >> Enjoy, Lin >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 06:33:05 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:33:05 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Home repair was Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes indeed. Work starts Tuesday. But ... I'm not doing it. It will be drained ( duh! ), sandblasted and a lot of concrete repair work done, before sealing and various coats of who knows what. I want to finish mucking out the garage and resume the Sprite work. If nothing else, I want to patch the surrounding panels to allow me to replace this panel that I removed 9? years ago. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/5RH_kick_panel_off_ext.jpg RD > From: shop at justbrits.com > > < Just don't look at my house for proof of this.>> > > er RD, wouldn't this be the year for PAINTING > your wonderful SWIMMING POOL ????? LMAO > > Get to WORK !!!!!! > > Anon From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 8 07:02:46 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:02:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > <> Some of you clearly do not understand the family dynamics involved here. When I retired, I mowed the lawn, cooked five days a week, did laundry, and cleaned the house at least once a year, sometimes more. Since I started working on my first Spridget, warming leftovers and mowing the lawn are about my only contribution to household chores. If I spend my wife's hard-earned money to eliminate this last chore, I will be in very serious, very deep doo-doo. Number two daughter is graduating in St. Louis, MO and we are driving slowly out and back with lots of stops (e.g. whitewater kayaking in PA). Any good BE parts for sale between New York and St. Louis? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Bugeye Long Island, NY From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 8 08:07:32 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:07:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520905080707x817bab0u45b1a7dabbd96d03@mail.gmail.com> But Michael, just think of the Mexicans you aren't subsidizing!!! FWIW, I mow my lawn. If Trish wants it edged, she will have to do it. I will not pay someone to do something I can do. I also have never actually bought a mower. I doubt that I have spent enough on gas and mower parts to cover one season of mowing ED's farm. Just got a "new" mower last year (the free Craftsman I had been using for eight years after the previous owner chucked it was getting tired). This one was simply a matter of pushing it home, putting gas in the tank, checking the oil and mowing the yard. I think the previous owner had succumbed to ED's way of thinking. I do kinda resent the space that my roto-tiller occupies in the shed. After all, I only use it once a year to till up a plot about 10' by 20' (a LOT of clay, so I am not interested in doing it with my eye-hoe). Neighbor down the block was throwing it away, I didn't have one, now I do. The snowthrower doesn't fit in the shed. Old MTD 8hp/26" 2-stage that a neighbor on the other block threw out. Spent $100 in parts, but it has plowed us and several blocks of neighbors out of two Chicagoland winters so far. Yes, I am the principal cook in the house and do most of the laundry. If Trish wants the house cleaned, she does it herself though. I also get to keep the fleet running. Had fun finding a "W" hose for the auxiliary radiator in my GTi this week. Part# right on the old hose, but the VW dealer could not find it in the database. Went to O'Reilly's and one of my friends that works there took me into the racks in back and let me browse til I found one. Their database doesn't have it either, but it was hanging in the back; perfect match other than the part number. No, I am not retired, just tired. Autocross tomorrow at Maywood Park in Melrose Park, IL. Anyone else coming? David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 08:16:20 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:16:20 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If I'm interpreting this right, what you're saying is that if you spend her money on having the lawn mowed, it won't be available for BE parts?? :) RD > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:02:46 -0400 > > <> > > Some of you clearly do not understand the family dynamics involved here. > When I retired, I mowed the lawn, cooked five days a week, did laundry, and > cleaned the house at least once a year, sometimes more. Since I started > working on my first Spridget, warming leftovers and mowing the lawn are > about my only contribution to household chores. If I spend my wife's > hard-earned money to eliminate this last chore, I will be in very serious, > very deep doo-doo. > > Number two daughter is graduating in St. Louis, MO and we are driving slowly > out and back with lots of stops (e.g. whitewater kayaking in PA). Any good > BE parts for sale between New York and St. Louis? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Bugeye > Long Island, NY From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 08:20:07 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:20:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <402188520905080707x817bab0u45b1a7dabbd96d03@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520905080707x817bab0u45b1a7dabbd96d03@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Can't you get the neighbours to store those machines for you? RD > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:07:32 -0500 > > I do kinda resent the space that my roto-tiller occupies in the shed. > After all, I only use it once a year to till up a plot about 10' by > 20' (a LOT of clay, so I am not interested in doing it with my > eye-hoe). Neighbor down the block was throwing it away, I didn't have > one, now I do. The snowthrower doesn't fit in the shed. Old MTD > 8hp/26" 2-stage that a neighbor on the other block threw out. Spent > $100 in parts, but it has plowed us and several blocks of neighbors > out of two Chicagoland winters so far. > > David Lieb From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 8 08:33:15 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:33:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: References: <402188520905080707x817bab0u45b1a7dabbd96d03@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905080733v86cafa5ibdac1883b254f158@mail.gmail.com> > Can't you get the neighbours to store those machines for you? I haven't tried that, but I doubt it would work. When was the last time YOU saw an empty garage? OTOH, my rental garage is finally coming through, so they will soon be over there. David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 08:34:54 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:34:54 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <5D8F0020-B843-4F34-B326-02A6A9294056@comcast.net> References: <105251.45415.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <5D8F0020-B843-4F34-B326-02A6A9294056@comcast.net> Message-ID: There are wildly varying experiences aren't there? I wonder if it was by model year? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 08:36:37 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:36:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <402188520905080733v86cafa5ibdac1883b254f158@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520905080707x817bab0u45b1a7dabbd96d03@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905080733v86cafa5ibdac1883b254f158@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Last night as I drove through a pricey neighbourhood there wree several almost empty garages. I guess they spend all of their time working and have no hobbies. :) > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 09:33:15 -0500 > > > Can't you get the neighbours to store those machines for you? > > I haven't tried that, but I doubt it would work. When was the last > time YOU saw an empty garage? > OTOH, my rental garage is finally coming through, so they will soon be > over there. > David Lieb From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri May 8 08:42:15 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 07:42:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > There are wildly varying experiences aren't there? They've made a lot of different cars. Some were nice, some were cheap, most were fun. From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri May 8 08:47:28 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 09:47:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ In-Reply-To: <205cef430905080340j422b100bu6c81077b70fdbdbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905071522r1d940a65r9996af60f937e4c@mail.gmail.com> <4A03B3D2.7000604@wi.net> <205cef430905080340j422b100bu6c81077b70fdbdbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A044600.7000105@wi.net> Frank was probably using that 2 year old bootleg gas to start with. Dave W. Linda Grunthaner wrote: > And she sounder so much better when she got more gas. > Hey Frank didn't you say that was your first paint job done all by > yourself? > Lin > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:23 AM, David Woerpel > wrote: > > Well done Linda and Frank!! And in the rain, John Frankenheimer > couldn't have done it better ;-) > Sounded great too. > > Dave W. > > > > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > I hope you can see this better than my home computer which is > very slow. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhcixlCug-Q&feature=channel_page > > > Enjoy, Lin From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 8 09:15:36 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 11:15:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > If I'm interpreting this right, what you're saying is that if you spend > her > money on having the lawn mowed, it won't be available for BE parts?? :) Not even close. It is more like, "If I spend her money on having the lawn mowed, *I* won't be around to buy BE parts." Michael Rowe From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri May 8 11:13:59 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:13:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I know where there is an X/19 for sale.... On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > There are wildly varying experiences aren't there? > They've made a lot of different cars. Some were nice, some were cheap, most > were fun. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 8 11:20:29 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:20:29 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] MowerRe: Undercoating Message-ID: I did my first head porting job on a mower cylinder head, when I was still a school kid. In a message dated 08/05/2009 02:35:14 GMT Daylight Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: mower From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 8 11:21:26 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:21:26 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Bug on youtube........ Message-ID: Grand Prix and Ronin In a message dated 08/05/2009 05:27:55 GMT Daylight Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: Frankenheimer?? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 8 11:30:09 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:30:09 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating Message-ID: Tell them to trade in their 'life-style' for a life. In a message dated 08/05/2009 15:37:24 GMT Daylight Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: I guess they spend all of their time working and have no hobbies. :) From kentmclean at comcast.net Fri May 8 11:39:10 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:39:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A046E3E.6080306@comcast.net> Brad Fornal wrote: > I know where there is an X/19 for sale.... I had a '78 that I put 100K miles on. I bought it with 7K miles on it, and got a good deal 'cuz the '79s had just come out with a bigger engine and 5-speed transmission. It was a great car, and I could be tempted by another. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From pythias at pacifier.com Fri May 8 11:52:43 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:52:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <4A046E3E.6080306@comcast.net> References: <4A046E3E.6080306@comcast.net> Message-ID: <597744852.20090508105243@pacifier.com> Hello, the X19.. and the development of addiction.... I had a friend back in the late '70s/early 80s. He was an Italian car junkie who had a Lancia and was on his second X19. He bought the second one new and within 3 days had taken the dash out to get rid of a rattle. He had a Big Healey in his back yard awaiting restoration. He asked if I wanted to go to the Healey 35th Anniversary Celebration in SnowMass Colorado. (1982) We coudn't drive the Healey so we took the X19. I got to actually see Donald Healey who was a guest speaker, and watched the BE's eat up the Big Boys in the gymkhana. ... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Honest, teacher! A virus REALLY did eat my homework! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 12:38:33 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:38:33 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I didn't say that I knew them !! :) It's just that they're on my chosen path to get somewhere. From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:30:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Undercoating To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net Tell them to trade in their 'life-style' for a life. In a message dated 08/05/2009 15:37:24 GMT Daylight Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: I guess they spend all of their time working and have no hobbies. :) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 12:41:13 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:41:13 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: R U talking about mine? http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/LittleCouple.jpg Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:13:59 -0500 I know where there is an X/19 for sale.... On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > There are wildly varying experiences aren't there? They've made a lot of different cars. Some were nice, some were cheap, most were fun. From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 8 12:45:17 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:45:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200905081145981.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Or mine? $250. Peter C in WI === At 01:41 PM 5/8/2009, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: >R U talking about mine? > >http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/LittleCouple.jpg > > > > > > > >Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 12:13:59 -0500 > >I know where there is an X/19 for sale.... > > >On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > > > There are wildly varying experiences aren't there? >They've made a lot of different cars. Some were nice, some were cheap, most >were fun. >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as peter at nosimport.com > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.22/2105 - Release Date: >05/08/09 11:43:00 From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 8 12:49:55 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 13:49:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Laygear needed Message-ID: <200905081149290.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Anyone have a 1500 laygear available? Earlier of the 2 with 15 teeth for the 21 tooth reverse gear. BMC # 22G1818 Moss 847-240 New or very good used. Thanks Peter C From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 12:53:10 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:53:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <597744852.20090508105243@pacifier.com> References: <4A046E3E.6080306@comcast.net> <597744852.20090508105243@pacifier.com> Message-ID: My brother bought a wrecked ( totalled ) X-19 that he found at a dealer's lot 'way back when' when I was going in for parts for my Spider. I advised him against it, but he had a mind of his own and he was an apprentice mechanic. He completely dismantled it and got someone to do the welding and bodywork, painted it yellow with black stripes down the sides and had a wonderful experience with it. When he was 43, he bought another one as a toy. He wasn't looking for a major project, especially not bodywork, though he did have to do some work on it to get it safetied. I own it now, and it is fun to drive, but it just isn't my thing. > Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 10:52:43 -0700 > > Hello, > > the X19.. and the development of addiction.... > > I had a friend back in the late '70s/early 80s. He was an > Italian car junkie who had a Lancia and was on his second X19. > He bought the second one new and within 3 days had taken the > dash out to get rid of a rattle. He had a Big Healey in his > back yard awaiting restoration. He asked if I wanted to go to > the Healey 35th Anniversary Celebration in SnowMass Colorado. > (1982) We coudn't drive the Healey so we took the X19. I got to > actually see Donald Healey who was a guest speaker, and watched > the BE's eat up the Big Boys in the gymkhana. ... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 8 13:12:50 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:12:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] MP3 and DRM (Digital Rights Management) - No LBC Message-ID: Hi List, I decided to just buy an MP3 player but found the files still need to be MP3 to play on the telly. So having realised I could have just bought a memory stick after all I downloaded a converter application to change my WMA files that I 'ripped' from my own CDs to my hard drive to the MP3 player. Some converted ok but several didn't as they were DRM protected. Is there a way around this since I own the CDs? Is it likely if I download direct to my hardrive I can save them as MP3?? From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 8 13:17:17 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:17:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MP3 and DRM (Digital Rights Management) - No LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520905081217q323cb9ech2deda7b4849660da@mail.gmail.com> > Some converted ok but several didn't as they were DRM protected. Is there > a way around this since I own the CDs? Is it likely if I download direct > to my hardrive I can save them as MP3?? If you own the CDs, just go back to them and rip them as MP3 files. Plenty of free software out there to do that! David From biffjones at verizon.net Fri May 8 14:30:03 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:30:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Lunch Message-ID: If anyone is interested in getting together as a spridgets group for lunch at the Carlisle meet, a few of us will be meeting on Saturday at 12:00 by the stairs to the grandstand. All are welcome to join. See you there. Biff [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.22/2105 - Release Date: 05/08/09 11:43:00 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri May 8 14:47:24 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 13:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT Message-ID: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Brad Fornal wrote: "I know where there is an X/19 for sale...." X1/9 was on my short list of cars I was looking for when I bought the Midget. Didn't get one because I couldn't find a decent example for a reasonable price at the time. They can be made very fast with the 2.0L from a Lancia Beta and look appropriately wicked if you replace the tins with Dallara panels. I wonder if something like one of the Type R Honda drivetrains would fit... now THAT would be fun to drive. - David From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 8 15:05:06 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:05:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> Interesting article on the Fiat X1/9 in a recent issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Cars. I found it hard to believe how heavy the car is. David Lieb From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 8 15:14:57 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:14:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: They are huge!!! Compared to a spridget. :) What was the weight? About 2300 lbs.? -----Original Message----- Interesting article on the Fiat X1/9 in a recent issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Cars. I found it hard to believe how heavy the car is. David Lieb From pythias at pacifier.com Fri May 8 15:22:44 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 14:22:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-Van-BC Message-ID: <1758601995.20090508142244@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, I'm wondering how many other listers will be in BC next weekend. Spike is often there, Paul A. is planning on going, Bill M. was considering it, and of course I expect to see Anita's all original Pink '62. ????? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com Can you repeat the part after "Listen very carefully"? From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 8 15:22:44 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 16:22:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com > References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905081422930.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> The inoperable headlight motors, and the water mains to the front are weighty. The one sitting out back is, um, ... lighter?... yeah, that's it.... lighter.... naturally... Peter C === At 04:05 PM 5/8/2009, you wrote: >Interesting article on the Fiat X1/9 in a recent issue of Hemmings >Sports & Exotic Cars. I found it hard to believe how heavy the car is. >David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 15:29:25 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:29:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <73F19193398F419AAC45731950FDACB0@Larry> More like 2,000. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: "'Spridgets List'" Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT They are huge!!! Compared to a spridget. :) What was the weight? About 2300 lbs.? -----Original Message----- Interesting article on the Fiat X1/9 in a recent issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Cars. I found it hard to believe how heavy the car is. David Lieb You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 15:40:02 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:40:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> <200905081422930.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Back when the 240-Z first came out a buddy of mine and I each bought one. His wife took a liking to his car and would take it every chance she got when he wasn't looking. In order to get her to keep her cotton-picking hands off of his car, he bought her an X1/9. Fun little car. A little anemic, but it handled really well. That mid-engine design gave it really low polar moments of inertia. Damn thing was one of the most tossable (street) cars I ever drove. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT The inoperable headlight motors, and the water mains to the front are weighty. The one sitting out back is, um, ... lighter?... yeah, that's it.... lighter.... naturally... Peter C === At 04:05 PM 5/8/2009, you wrote: >Interesting article on the Fiat X1/9 in a recent issue of Hemmings >Sports & Exotic Cars. I found it hard to believe how heavy the car is. >David Lieb You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 8 15:44:00 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:44:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> <200905081422930.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <402188520905081444i6023195bifcfb374e65de5551@mail.gmail.com> > That mid-engine design gave it really > low polar moments of inertia. Damn thing was one of the most tossable > (street) cars I ever drove. That was another thing the article pointed out. It worked so well that it did not need any anti-sway bars. David Lieb From nases at verizon.net Fri May 8 16:52:02 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 18:52:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> <200905081422930.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <0F3E2793-5278-4AE8-9D16-25375460171D@verizon.net> On May 8, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > That mid-engine design gave it really low polar moments of inertia. > Damn thing was one of the most tossable > (street) cars I ever drove. > > LAD Low polar moment of inertia... Isn't that when it holds really really well, right up to the time it doesn't? Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 8 16:53:26 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT Message-ID: <319860.25550.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've been asked to run in the 24 Hours of Lemons, $500 limit. I think Peter's would fit the bill. I've seen it - I would not mind if it were claimed after the race. --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: > From: Peter Caldwell > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT > To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 4:22 PM > The inoperable headlight motors, and > the water mains to the front are weighty. > > The one sitting out back is, um, ... lighter?... yeah, > that's it.... > lighter.... naturally... > > Peter C > === > > At 04:05 PM 5/8/2009, you wrote: > >Interesting article on the Fiat X1/9 in a recent issue > of Hemmings > >Sports & Exotic Cars. I found it hard to believe > how heavy the car is. > >David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From refisk at chartermi.net Fri May 8 17:06:20 2009 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:06:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com><200905081422930.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <092101c9d031$9998c270$6401a8c0@refisk> I tossed mine backwards into a telephone pole after getting it airborne at about 60 mph. :-) My passenger and I were both uninjured and I drove the car home and for the next year with no repairs needed. The energy absorbing battering ram bumpers did their job. The right rear corner of the body was bent down about 6 inches, but nothing was broken. The trunk lid opened and closed properly and didn't leak. It drove straight and handled fine and over the next year the tires wore evenly. Rick >.................... Damn thing was one of the most tossable > (street) cars I ever drove. > > LAD From pythias at pacifier.com Fri May 8 17:06:57 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 16:06:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <0F3E2793-5278-4AE8-9D16-25375460171D@verizon.net> References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> <200905081422930.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <0F3E2793-5278-4AE8-9D16-25375460171D@verizon.net> Message-ID: <1807849900.20090508160657@pacifier.com> Hello Phil, >Low polar moment of inertia... Isn't that when it holds really really >well, right up to the time it doesn't? The opposite approach was taken IIRC with the Porsche 928. Instead of putting all the weight concentrated at in the middle they did all they could to spread it out to the ends. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Mrs. Ghandi is in a sari state. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 17:12:03 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:12:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT References: <368811.2886.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com><200905081422930.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <0F3E2793-5278-4AE8-9D16-25375460171D@verizon.net> Message-ID: True enough. But it does hold really well before it crashes.. er, I mean let's go. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Nase" To: "spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net" Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT On May 8, 2009, at 5:40 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > That mid-engine design gave it really low polar moments of inertia. > Damn thing was one of the most tossable > (street) cars I ever drove. > > LAD Low polar moment of inertia... Isn't that when it holds really really well, right up to the time it doesn't? Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 17:14:16 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 18:14:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT References: <319860.25550.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "Peter Caldwell" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT I've been asked to run in the 24 Hours of Lemons, $500 limit. I think Peter's would fit the bill. I've seen it - I would not mind if it were claimed after the race. --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: =================== Just watch the corpse. They have a habit of disappearing when you aren't looking. LAD From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri May 8 17:22:25 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 18:22:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wisconsin Auction MGB part2 of 2 Message-ID: <4A04BEB1.204@wi.net> 1968 MGB: Better condition than the Sprite. It does have rocker covers covering bad rocker and external sills. I infer from that the interior and castle rail are probably shot. Floors were fairly good and I didn't detect any holes. Bonnet has a basketball size dent that, if steel, can be fixed. Trunk fairly good with light surface rust in spots. Underneath is good as well. Dash is cracked in the usual place. Instruments original, seats need to be redone as does carpeting and the interior panels (may be made presentable by the "We Tight" crowd). Engine original with smog equip. removed. I know the mechanics that took care of the car and they would have kept it running and made some improvements. However the car appears to be, like the Sprite, VERY original. And again, if it were me I would do a ground up, keep it original (at least the obvious parts ;-) ), and probably spend $10k doing it. Wish I could bid on both of these cars but a new garage has top priority. Never was good on timing....a lot of missed opportunities. Damn hobby; never satisfied! Anyway, the 30-40 Krag is an unmolested model 98 and in great shape. The .303 Enfield child's sporter in in good shape too and the raw wood block extension on the butt can be removed. There is a Japanese (Type 99??) rifle in great condition but, of course, has the chrysanthemum ground off. I've only seen one with it on as they had to be defaced to legally bring them into the country, or so the legend goes. The 44 mag with long barrel (11") and scope is a nice "uncle frightener". The diesel Benz runs and sounds good. Don't know about the XJ but there is a 12 cyl engine with attached slushbox sitting in the corner of the garage. TR6 also very dubious. Corvette doesn't sound good and the 924 runs. I shall be there with my Spridgets shirt on trying to figure out a way to stuff the Jag V12 lump into the Bugeye. End of report. Dave "The Scrounger" Woerpel Previously on 24: Dave Woerpel wrote: > For those of you in or near SE Wisconsin. My daughter-in-law sent me > the following auction notice and I'm just passing it on. > > http://www.chuillisauction.com/auction.php?action=get&id=342 > > The Bugeye looks to be fairly original form the pic. It has a wooden > steering wheel but the rearview mirror caught my eye. My Bugeye had > the same mirror when I got it. When I restored it to "as original" I > put on the cheapo mirror with the clamp mounting. > Now I'm wondering if the other mirror wasn't original to the car; > perhaps dealer added? Just another of those mysteries that makes > these car so interesting for us "historians". > > BTW, The 1968 MG Midget in the auction looks a lot like a MGB. I may > get to the auction ad check it out. > > Some interesting guns also. I particularly like the Krag. > Have fun! > > > Dave W. From kentmclean at comcast.net Fri May 8 17:26:45 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 19:26:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A04BFB5.5000801@comcast.net> David Booker wrote: > I wonder if something like one of the Type R Honda drivetrains would fit... Yes. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From kentmclean at comcast.net Fri May 8 17:30:22 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 19:30:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A04C08E.6010801@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > Interesting article on the Fiat X1/9 in a recent issue of Hemmings > Sports & Exotic Cars. I found it hard to believe how heavy the car is. When the X1/9 was designed, there was rumor/fear that the Feds were going to mandate outrageous standards for rollover safety, so FIAT overbuilt the X1/9 and used a targa top. The standards never happened. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri May 8 17:35:52 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 18:35:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wisconsin Auction Recon Part 1 of 2 Message-ID: <4A04C1D8.90105@wi.net> I got a chance to look at the Bugeye (59) and MGB (68) that are being auctioned off tomorrow. Both are good cars. Do not know if they run but it wouldn't take much. Coil is out of the BE and they had a temp. 6v battery sitting in there and the B's battery is flat. Bugeye: There is rust through on the battery/heater deck. Sills are totally bondo but did not detect any Taco Bell wrappers so it's not one of Frank's. ;-) The engine is 948 with original H1 carbs, a cheapie header, and maybe work on the block as the number plate is gone. Block says 950 using the braille method. New floors are needed and lower body panels too...lots of bondo. Instruments all original and it has an interior rearview mirror like mine (not the clamp on); another ? for another time. Spring boxes are questionable and the car sits like it should. Windscreen original and original vinyl sidecurtains. Aluminum sliding sidescreens (perspex, oops, sorry, plexiglass) are being auctioned separately and they need cleaning and new felt. A torn apart smooth case in a box and other misc. parts are there too. So, mostly original with replacement parts (even tach drive gearbox with knurled fastener but body held by 2 screws (a 3rd option??? Geez) that are period correct; no go faster mods. New top and tonneau needed. If I were doing it, it would be a ground up project, but a relative easy one. Actually it's pretty close to the Holy Sprite. END PART 1 "Previously on 24": Dave Woerpel wrote: > For those of you in or near SE Wisconsin. My daughter-in-law sent me > the following auction notice and I'm just passing it on. > > http://www.chuillisauction.com/auction.php?action=get&id=342 > > The Bugeye looks to be fairly original form the pic. It has a wooden > steering wheel but the rearview mirror caught my eye. My Bugeye had > the same mirror when I got it. When I restored it to "as original" I > put on the cheapo mirror with the clamp mounting. > Now I'm wondering if the other mirror wasn't original to the car; > perhaps dealer added? Just another of those mysteries that makes > these car so interesting for us "historians". > > BTW, The 1968 MG Midget in the auction looks a lot like a MGB. I may > get to the auction ad check it out. > > Some interesting guns also. I particularly like the Krag. > Have fun! > > > Dave W. From pythias at pacifier.com Fri May 8 18:03:31 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:03:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <4A04C08E.6010801@comcast.net> References: <4A04C08E.6010801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1889263571.20090508170331@pacifier.com> Hello Kent, > When the X1/9 was designed, there was rumor/fear that the Feds were going > to mandate outrageous standards for rollover safety, so FIAT overbuilt the > X1/9 and used a targa top. The standards never happened. and the reason that those standards were never issued was because they did there studies and found out that on the road the cars that actually had the highest rollover rates were the cars that were LEAST likely to roll over. That is things like Corvettes, and Sports Cars in general are rolled far more than things like Jeeps. They figured (rightly for once?) that the most significant contributor to Automotive Rollovers is DRIVER ERROR! But those impending standards contributed to the "end" of convertible production (the "last" being the 1976 El Dorado) and the Inclusion of the "roll over bar" in the 1980 VW Convertible. Chrysler then introduced the Convertible K car variant soon thereafter without such a bar. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" He who loses his head is usually the last one to miss it. From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 8 18:16:59 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:16:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT - ADD "Reply All" question... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> BUT Larry & as you WELL know, NEVER WHEN you want them to do so!!! LOL David PS: "This" post IS the perfect one to comment on something!! AAR, I EDIT my "Reply All" to ELIMANATE (in this case, Larry, Ron, David L., AND PPP) personal replies PLUS the List reply. I Edit so that the "Reply All" ONLY goes to The List but in this case I won't. Is there some reason folks "enjoy" getting dups of the SAME Reply?? If there IS some "desire" to continue to rec've TWO please just say so. OR (& I KNOW this IS a reach) could everybody just 'develop' the habit of editing their "Reply All"s ??? I DOES take at LEAST ONE minute to do?!?!? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 18:39:48 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:39:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT - ADD "Reply All" question... References: Message-ID: <5B21ECD63A3140A5B256BB89EA65B613@Larry> ED, I can't believe I spent the effort to try to understand your babbling only to come to the conclusion of, "Who the hell cares?" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Ron Soave" ; "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "Peter Caldwell" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 7:16 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] FIAT - ADD "Reply All" question... <> BUT Larry & as you WELL know, NEVER WHEN you want them to do so!!! LOL David PS: "This" post IS the perfect one to comment on something!! AAR, I EDIT my "Reply All" to ELIMANATE (in this case, Larry, Ron, David L., AND PPP) personal replies PLUS the List reply. I Edit so that the "Reply All" ONLY goes to The List but in this case I won't. Is there some reason folks "enjoy" getting dups of the SAME Reply?? If there IS some "desire" to continue to rec've TWO please just say so. OR (& I KNOW this IS a reach) could everybody just 'develop' the habit of editing their "Reply All"s ??? I DOES take at LEAST ONE minute to do?!?!? From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 8 18:45:18 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:45:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <1889263571.20090508170331@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <> Has to be the ONE & ONLY, Bill!!!!! <> shirley you JEST !!!!!!!!! David From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri May 8 18:43:31 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:43:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT References: <319860.25550.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <33049DECDA574FB8959366ADCF1BF7C5@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "Peter Caldwell" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT I've been asked to run in the 24 Hours of Lemons, $500 limit. I think Peter's would fit the bill. I've seen it - I would not mind if it were claimed after the race. =================== Ron, tell us more. Is this like the BABE rally? From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri May 8 18:47:12 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 17:47:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <565833.52443.qm@web51412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Anyone that bad mouths the '70s FIATs never drove one. I owned two 124 Spiders, a 1.4 and a 1.6 that made the MGB of the day look sick. Only problem I had was plug fouling, that was cured with a CD ignition. Otherwise, that motor would run up to 7k rpm all day long. Also had an X 1/9 that would out handle just about everything (ok, don't lift the throttle in mid-corner). The euro models were even better and if you had the bucks, crazy Al Consentino of FAZA in Brewster, NY could hook you up with the Abarth parts to get your car running like it was meant to.My first 124 got totalled out by a drunk in a Pontiac Bonneville, but the others served me well for over 100k mi. Rust, eventually killed 'em, but they were great cars, nonetheless, Rick --- On Fri, 5/8/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FIAT To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, May 8, 2009, 5:05 PM Interesting article on the Fiat X1/9 in a recent issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Cars. I found it hard to believe how heavy the car is. David Lieb You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 8 18:50:25 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:50:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT - ADD "Reply All" question... References: <5B21ECD63A3140A5B256BB89EA65B613@Larry> Message-ID: <016C65576E5D45CFB42D378E416A43BC@rwa> > ED, I can't believe I spent the effort to try to understand your babbling > only to come to the conclusion of, "Who the hell cares?" And I must admit that, since the implementation of the latest List software by MJB, I have yet to see a duplicate message. The listserver is smart enough to trim them out. I generally use reply all and occasionally leave the address of the last person to send it so that he gets it a trifle sooner than the rest of you and has a chance to answer faster. Personal choice and I don't see any problems. Maybe we now have a new way to annoy ED? David Lieb From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 8 20:00:22 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] LeMons (was Re: FIAT Message-ID: <978153.10449.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > Ron, tell us more. Is this like the BABE rally? Amazing where a post of my Italy photos went in a week.... Anyway, http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/ Way more of a true shitbox extravaganza. The drivers can vote to destroy your car at any point, and any car can be bought for $500 after the race. Frank's Babe car would never have been entered in this one! Ron From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 8 20:30:07 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:30:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT - ADD "Reply All" question... In-Reply-To: <016C65576E5D45CFB42D378E416A43BC@rwa> Message-ID: <> I have known the List software intimately for a decade David, and can flat state it is NOT; is it one of those UN-documented "features" of gmail. So in YOUR case and just FYI when someone IS polite and EDITS the Reply All, you STILL will NOT see it because it IS a feature of gmail NOT MailMan. Of course in your case I will make sure it doesn't 'occur'!! From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 8 20:34:01 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:34:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT - ADD "Reply All" question... References: Message-ID: <2A080BDECF354071B63D2E41430E2AEE@rwa> Sorry ED, but it didn't work. The List software MJB uses has changed several times in the last decade, but I guess you weren't paying attention. I only received one copy of your missive, so perhjaps gmail has an influence, but it did the same when I was on the VERY vanila chicagolandmgclub.com address. I guess even software has it in for you ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: "72 Spridget" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "S pridgets" ; "72 Spridget" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "72 Spridget" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "72 Spridget" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "72 Spridget" <72spridget at gmail.com>; "72 Spridget" <72spridget at gmail.com> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] FIAT - ADD "Reply All" question... > < software by MJB, I have yet to see a duplicate message. >> > > I have known the List software intimately for a decade David, and can > flat state it is NOT; is it one of those UN-documented "features" > of gmail. So in YOUR case and just FYI when someone IS polite and EDITS > the > Reply All, you STILL will NOT see it because it IS a feature of gmail NOT > MailMan. > > Of course in your case I will make sure it doesn't 'occur'!! From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri May 8 20:50:06 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 20:50:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <565833.52443.qm@web51412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <402188520905081405x3030f191pc0a1fb14c702b94@mail.gmail.com> <565833.52443.qm@web51412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:47 PM, HealeyRick wrote: Anyone that bad mouths the '70s FIATs never drove one. I had friends who had 124s and they were pretty good cars other than all the bad things... Nobody mentioned the really soft tranny mount rubbers that caused the cars to jerk along at low revs in 1st gear! I owned an 850 coupe when I was a kid. I'm sure I only paid $50 or $100 for it because the starter was bad. I lived on a hill so I just parked it facing down the hill and kick started it! It was light enough to push to any closeby hill... Never left me stranded either! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 8 20:53:06 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 21:53:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT - ADD "Reply All" question... In-Reply-To: <2A080BDECF354071B63D2E41430E2AEE@rwa> Message-ID: OK Mr. Expert, just WHAT program does Mark use??? And FYI, Mark has ONLY used (and with updated versions) TWO programs: Majordomo and MailMan. From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 8 21:02:45 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 22:02:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <565833.52443.qm@web51412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> YIKES Rick, you ARE blessed !!! If the Pony was from '60 - '70s, talk about an ANT vs Goliath !!!!!! From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 8 21:17:04 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 20:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Braking me Message-ID: <302585.80685.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I guess I;m just venting here. My very nice street Bugeye is suffering from Honda Romeo Syndrome. This is a condition where an LBC is left largely unused for 3 years while you get your LBC fix on the racetrack and use old Jap bikes and Italian cars as your daily drivers during those few weeks when the streets of your town don't resemble a glacier. I drove the car last November before the snow came with Woerpel riding shotgun, and he will bear witness to my finely honed handbrake skills. So a few weeks ago I changed the front wheel cylinders and rubber brake hoses (both 11 years old; rears are 11 too but look fine and dry). I gravity bled it and can't get the damn thing to bleed. I'm ready for an intervention. I don't think anything is wrong with the master - fluid is pumping, I just get no pedal when I'm done. This is a 4 wheel drum brake car, all original style with single master. I've ripped the braking system out of the racecar in its entirety and not had anywhere near this difficulty. I tried conventional bleeders (for gravity and initial bleed) followed by speedbleeders which I've always found idiot proof. There are no obvious leaks. Any suggestions welcomed, as are prayers or voodoo. Thanks for "listening" Ron From stargazer1 at cox.net Fri May 8 21:55:38 2009 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Fri, 08 May 2009 20:55:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <565833.52443.qm@web51412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <565833.52443.qm@web51412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A04FEBA.9050903@cox.net> HealeyRick wrote: > Anyone that bad mouths the '70s FIATs never drove one. I owned two 124 > Spiders, a 1.4 and a 1.6 that made the MGB of the day look sick. Only problem > I had was plug fouling, that was cured with a CD ignition. Otherwise, that > motor would run up to 7k rpm all day long. Also had an X 1/9 that would out > handle just about everything (ok, don't lift the throttle in mid-corner). The > euro models were even better and if you had the bucks, crazy Al Consentino of > FAZA in Brewster, NY could hook you up with the Abarth parts to get your car > running like it was meant to.My first 124 got totalled out by a drunk in a > Pontiac Bonneville, but the others served me well for over 100k mi. Rust, > eventually killed 'em, but they were great cars, nonetheless, > My first ever bought-new car was a 131 Mirafiore. It ran just great until the front suspension bushings wore out and the cam belt stripped at 145K The cam belt was my fault. I left it on for almost twice the recommended service interval. We gave it to my brother in law who fixed the engine and dropped it into a 124. Prior to that point, we didn't have to do anything other than regular maintenance. Fiat's had the same problem as the British cars of the time. The fscking dealers were incompetent. I took mine back to the dealer for its 1000 mile check. Took it to a different dealer for a tune-up and they found the #3 spark plug cross-threaded. Neither dealer would fix it under warranty. After that, I did my own work as the warranty wasn't worth anything anyway. Fiat makes a nice car. I just hope they put more emphasis on their dealer network this time. Cheers, Dave Ambrose From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri May 8 22:16:28 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:16:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Braking me In-Reply-To: <302585.80685.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <302585.80685.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51469.173.108.86.29.1241842588.squirrel@wm.wi.net> I can attest to Ron's handbrake skills! So why change anything? You were doing great. Are you not getting any fluid from the rears also or just the front? Suggestion, change the rear rubber hose also, unless it's new. Don't forget the slave. (fun and games) When I completely did mine it took a long, long time to get any fluid to come through at all. I had to use a mitey-vac to draw fluid through as it wouldn't pump through, don't even ask about the slave cyl. I bet Adam and I spent 5 hrs. getting fluid through, not counting sanity, Primal Therapy breaks. We didn't have all the fancy eze-bleed and pump attachment on the M/C. Will stay tuned for further developments. Lighting a candle, Dave W. > I guess I;m just venting here. My very nice street Bugeye is suffering > from Honda Romeo Syndrome. This is a condition where an LBC is left > largely unused for 3 years while you get your LBC fix on the racetrack and > use old Jap bikes and Italian cars as your daily drivers during those few > weeks when the streets of your town don't resemble a glacier. I drove the > car last November before the snow came with Woerpel riding shotgun, and he > will bear witness to my finely honed handbrake skills. So a few weeks ago > I changed the front wheel cylinders and rubber brake hoses (both 11 years > old; rears are 11 too but look fine and dry). I gravity bled it and can't > get the damn thing to bleed. I'm ready for an intervention. I don't think > anything is wrong with the master - fluid is pumping, I just get no pedal > when I'm done. This is a 4 wheel drum brake car, all original style with > single master. I've ripped the braking system out of the racecar in its > entirety and not > had anywhere near this difficulty. I tried conventional bleeders (for > gravity and initial bleed) followed by speedbleeders which I've always > found idiot proof. There are no obvious leaks. Any suggestions welcomed, > as are prayers or voodoo. > > Thanks for "listening" > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dwoerpel at wi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat May 9 05:18:49 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 04:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <149477.15050.qm@web51403.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Indeed, Ed, considering I was rear-ended by the "ramming speed" bow of a '67 Bonny. Fortunately for me, the Bonny bounced off a brand new Vette before hitting me, slowing his progress. The driver took off and turned himself in a week later, prolly after he sobered up. --- On Fri, 5/8/09, Ed's Shop wrote: <> YIKES Rick, you ARE blessed !!! If the Pony was from '60 - '70s, talk about an ANT vs Goliath !!!!!! You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat May 9 05:49:25 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 04:49:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <4A04FEBA.9050903@cox.net> Message-ID: <503730.93748.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The aluminum head DOHC was pretty advanced for its time, but those same features could cause trouble once it got into the hands of "deferred maintenance" owners. The timing belts required regular replacement and as the motor was an interference fit, valves would go crashing into pistons when the belt broke. Valve adjustment was by using disc shaped shims that required the garage to have a whole set of them, which most independents didn't. And the spark plugs were easily cross-threaded in the aluminum head. The biggest issue with the cars was rust, though with the 124 Spiders actually having a govt. mandated buy-back due to chassis rust. --- On Fri, 5/8/09, David Ambrose wrote: > My first ever bought-new car was a 131 Mirafiore. It ran just great until the front suspension bushings wore out and the cam belt stripped at 145K The cam belt was my fault. I left it on for almost twice the recommended service interval. We gave it to my brother in law who fixed the engine and dropped it into a 124. Prior to that point, we didn't have to do anything other than regular maintenance. Fiat's had the same problem as the British cars of the time. The fscking dealers were incompetent. I took mine back to the dealer for its 1000 mile check. Took it to a different dealer for a tune-up and they found the #3 spark plug cross-threaded. Neither dealer would fix it under warranty. After that, I did my own work as the warranty wasn't worth anything anyway. Fiat makes a nice car. I just hope they put more emphasis on their dealer network this time. Cheers, Dave Ambrose You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat May 9 06:19:56 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:19:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT - ADD "Reply All" question... In-Reply-To: <2A080BDECF354071B63D2E41430E2AEE@rwa> References: <2A080BDECF354071B63D2E41430E2AEE@rwa> Message-ID: I get one copy when I've been sent 2 also. I figured it was the receiving ISP that was filtering it out. I'm not using gmail ( obviously ). RD -----Original Message----- From: 72 Spridget I only received one copy of your missive, so perhjaps gmail has an influence, but it did the same when I was on the VERY vanila chicagolandmgclub.com address. I guess even software has it in for you ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" > < software by MJB, I have yet to see a duplicate message. >> > > I have known the List software intimately for a decade David, and can > flat state it is NOT; is it one of those UN-documented "features" > of gmail. So in YOUR case and just FYI when someone IS polite and EDITS > the > Reply All, you STILL will NOT see it because it IS a feature of gmail NOT > MailMan. > > Of course in your case I will make sure it doesn't 'occur'!! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat May 9 06:58:07 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:58:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT In-Reply-To: <4A04C08E.6010801@comcast.net> References: <4A04C08E.6010801@comcast.net> Message-ID: According to wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_X1/9 ) " The first models featured a 75 bhp (56 kW) 1290 cc single overhead cam engine with an aluminium head. In this form, the car had less than dramatic performance, hampered somewhat by the surprisingly heavy body shell. The weight largely stems from the immense strength of the bodyshell, built to give the car the same crash resistance in US crash tests as a sedan. Ironically while the X1/9 passed these tests, many standard US models of the day failed them, and eventually the test criteria were relaxed. However, the design was complete by then and so the bodyshell stiffness is considerable for a car of its type, and it also allows power plants of much greater power to be fitted without modification of the standard shell. " -----Original Message----- David Lieb wrote: > Interesting article on the Fiat X1/9 in a recent issue of Hemmings > Sports & Exotic Cars. I found it hard to believe how heavy the car is. When the X1/9 was designed, there was rumor/fear that the Feds were going to mandate outrageous standards for rollover safety, so FIAT overbuilt the X1/9 and used a targa top. The standards never happened. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat May 9 07:54:11 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 08:54:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Braking me In-Reply-To: <302585.80685.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <302585.80685.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <38475486-7C4A-4B34-BEBD-EB03BC0901E6@comcast.net> I have sacrificed two chickens for you man.. over easy with sausage.. Lester On May 8, 2009, at 10:17 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > I guess I;m just venting here. My very nice street Bugeye is > suffering from Honda Romeo Syndrome. This is a condition where an > LBC is left largely unused for 3 years while you get your LBC fix on > the racetrack and use old Jap bikes and Italian cars as your daily > drivers during those few weeks when the streets of your town don't > resemble a glacier. I drove the car last November before the snow > came with Woerpel riding shotgun, and he will bear witness to my > finely honed handbrake skills. So a few weeks ago I changed the > front wheel cylinders and rubber brake hoses (both 11 years old; > rears are 11 too but look fine and dry). I gravity bled it and can't > get the damn thing to bleed. I'm ready for an intervention. I don't > think anything is wrong with the master - fluid is pumping, I just > get no pedal when I'm done. This is a 4 wheel drum brake car, all > original style with single master. I've ripped the braking system > out of the racecar in its entirety and not > had anywhere near this difficulty. I tried conventional bleeders > (for gravity and initial bleed) followed by speedbleeders which I've > always found idiot proof. There are no obvious leaks. Any > suggestions welcomed, as are prayers or voodoo. > > Thanks for "listening" From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat May 9 10:12:09 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 11:12:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Adjusting rear brakes.. In-Reply-To: <3B8894522FC548C99F9A6608DAF2FDD3@dell330> References: <302585.80685.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <38475486-7C4A-4B34-BEBD-EB03BC0901E6@comcast.net> <3B8894522FC548C99F9A6608DAF2FDD3@dell330> Message-ID: <395CA61E-CFF3-4642-A2D7-68D502FBA790@comcast.net> Hello all, I recently replaced rear shoes on both sides and as others have commented the adjusters don't take up all the slack. I have read that a little welding to compensate on the adjust makes it all better. My question is can I adjust the handbrake cable to take up the slack first or is it adjust the brakes first then the handbrake? Thanks, Lester From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat May 9 11:56:54 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 13:56:54 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT Message-ID: Same as the XK Jag engines and Lotus TC. In a message dated 09/05/2009 13:15:09 GMT Daylight Time, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: Valve adjustment was by using disc shaped shims From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat May 9 12:12:56 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 14:12:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Line or Electrical In-Reply-To: References: <532108.2783.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com><208DA554-9187-463E-BF3C-76E0D144EB44@comcast.net><990B7664-C29A-45F8-8C5B-0264CE143E5B@phillymgclub.com> <49F66CC4.6060907@comcast.net> Message-ID: :) Still awake, are you? :) -----Original Message----- From: Bill Masquelier I soldered a "penny-patch" on a Jeep gas tank once- Of course I filled the tank with water first to prevent any explosion danger (left about 1/2" of "air" at the top so I could solder), blew compressed air thru it for about an hour to purge any remaining gas and proceeded... The BANG didn't hurt anything but DID wake me up pretty quickly! After that I went ahead and finished the job and it is still holding 5 years later. But I won't do that again Bill > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > My brother recounted a story to me about a guy who said he was going to weld a > gas tank at a place where he worked. I think he tried to talk him out of it, > but failed. So, he said, well, I'm not sticking around and he started to > leave the shop. Before he could get out the door, he heard the BOOM and > looked back and saw the guy sitting on the floor with a vacant stare on his > face. :) Fortunately, only his pride was injured. > > > Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:41:08 -0400 > > > > But Kevin says he wants to fix this tank, I'm gonna watch him fix it > > from a distance ;) > > I saw a gas tank blow up and get airborne by 30 feet once. > > I'm still just gonna watch when a torch touches a tank. > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat May 9 13:15:12 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 12:15:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I Laughed My Head Off - Got to See This Message-ID: <37dc82d40905091215l3163ff77l895f9355eddd30fc@mail.gmail.com> Have some of you seen this? I stumbled across this on a car site and then went to You Tube to locate it so that I could send it out. What a backfire! It just struck me as being so darn funny that I woke my wife up late last night laughing my head off. Had to share it. . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vmnq5dBF7Y Kirk 59 BE From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat May 9 17:47:32 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 18:47:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Adjusting rear brakes.. In-Reply-To: <395CA61E-CFF3-4642-A2D7-68D502FBA790@comcast.net> References: <302585.80685.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <38475486-7C4A-4B34-BEBD-EB03BC0901E6@comcast.net> <3B8894522FC548C99F9A6608DAF2FDD3@dell330> <395CA61E-CFF3-4642-A2D7-68D502FBA790@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6B7644CD-CCC7-48EB-9A07-97C8B8281B41@comcast.net> Ok, got it , brakes first. Now, where do you recommend adding metal to get the adjuster to do something? The drums, to the best of my examination, are hardly machined at all. Thanks again to all, Lester On May 9, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Lester wrote: > > > Hello all, > > I recently replaced rear shoes on both sides and as others have > commented the adjusters don't take up all the slack. I have read that > a little welding to compensate on the adjust makes it all better. > > My question is can I adjust the handbrake cable to take up the slack > first or is it adjust the brakes first then the handbrake? > > Thanks, > > Lester > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye > Sprite Club, please send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member > of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ > and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive > any emails. > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > RECENT ACTIVITY > 3 > New Members > 4 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > Give Back > Yahoo! for Good > Get inspired > by a good cause. > Y! Toolbar > Get it Free! > easy 1-click access > to your groups. > Yahoo! Groups > Start a group > in 3 easy steps. > Connect with others. > . > > __,_._,___ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat May 9 19:46:50 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 21:46:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Routine maintainance Message-ID: <4A06320A.8060102@comcast.net> With my annual Carlisle trip less than a week away, I decided to change the oil, adjust the brakes and all that stuff to my 59 today. Well first off, it would not start. Toasted electronic ignition. Simple fix, drop in the points dizzy and it fired right up, ran alot better too. I was having some minor issues with a high speed miss and hard starting. Now I had to re-adjust the carbs. So off to the local shop to see about if they mounted the tires for the 69. Not yet but while I was there and since they are a modern car electronic/wheel/alarm shop, I asked what the hell an E-99 message on my CD player was? My 8 track player never said that, nor did my cassette player. So the kid looks at it, resets it, and then pulls it out, pops in a brand new CD player and all is now good again. I asked what do I owe, he said it's under warranty, my kid bought it from him 2 years ago for my birthday. He said he will return it since it's a bum unit. (made in china) but at least the LOCAL SHOP made good and I didn't even ask. And he mounted my tires for the 69 too. It was the kid at the shop that asked why my car was rolling with the E brake up? I told him I had to adjust the brakes. Well I did and the rear wheel still spun. Off with the tire and drum, leaky wheel cylinder makes for no E brake on that side. So new shoes and some quick thinking and a spare new wheel cylinder on the shelf and now I have all 4 wheels stopping the car. Changed the oil, checked all the juices, finished some final touches on the new CD player face plate since it didn't quite fit and now I am ready for the summer driving season. I restored this car 6 years ago, I haven't done much to it other than routine maintainance but I never pulled off the brake drums to check for leaks. I am pulling it apart next year to de-seam the rear tub and get rid of that rust catcher, givr it a new paint job and redo all the stuff that should be done every 5 years or so. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat May 9 20:10:20 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 21:10:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT References: <319860.25550.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <599EDE8038524FBDB7B54AF40F08C6A6@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <413FDE71F7D945909C15032ED868FAC1@rwa> Speaking of Fiats, a 1982 X1/9 showed up at the WCMC autox today. I was driving the Bugeye today, so he kicked my butt to the tune of a little over 4 seconds (FTD was 1:09.420, set by a 2007 Z06 Vette). Good event despite the high winds this morning and the overcast skies all day. David Lieb From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat May 9 20:11:20 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 21:11:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FIAT References: <319860.25550.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <599EDE8038524FBDB7B54AF40F08C6A6@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <904ABCC28A7446E1882DBD6CE878F04A@rwa> I almost forgot to mention. NOW I know how much my Phantom Grip does for me after running without it!!! David Lieb From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat May 9 23:19:03 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:19:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Report Wisconsin Auction Message-ID: <4A0663C7.70100@wi.net> FWIW, a brief report on the auction Sunday. 1988 Corvette automatic - $8500 Porsche 924 - $850...yup, 850. Good condition too. Volks ver afrait ov der Deutsche mechanische. 1968 MGB - $1300 1959 Bugeye - $2500 I might help work on this one after the body work is completed. That's all I know about the cars as I was helping the guy that bought the Bugeye. The Colt .44 Mag with 8" barrel and scope went for $750! The deceased owner, apparently one of those eccentric mechanical engineers like those on the list (teehee), bought great stuff and then they sat. Later, stricken with heart and diabetes problems he had a friend drive him around in the cars every so often. Sad story really. Back to regular programming. Dave W. From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat May 9 23:52:32 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 22:52:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating In-Reply-To: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> References: <2400EB1EFBD243F3A651F4C2543301B7@Home> Message-ID: <4A066BA0.8080001@gmail.com> Go with a Toro, LawnBoy or Snapper that has a cast aluminum deck. No rust. -g Michael Rowe wrote: > We get a lot of salt spray on our lawn that rots out the mower deck, so I sprayed rubber undercoating left over from the car on the inside of my new mower to reduce corrosion. The first mowing scrubbed it all off. So I sprayed WD40 yesterday. It scrubbed off in minutes. I would not guess that flying grass is especially abrasive, but it is like media blasting. Any recommendations beyond hosing it off every time? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Bugeye kit > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bpazur at excel.net Sun May 10 09:34:49 2009 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 10:34:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Outfit On Ebay Message-ID: <000a01c9d184$dbad0f50$21e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> Ebay Item 200340474893 - my racing outfit. Worn for 4 races. No reserve. I mention this just in case someone on the list, or someone that knows someone on the list, could us it. Would be a great bargain for the right indivdual. To all about to start up their racing season, good luck, be safe, and have fun. Bud '60 Bugeye - Mr. White From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sun May 10 14:13:37 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 13:13:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Dave Riker's Message, TO Bearing, Etc Message-ID: <37dc82d40905101313uf218522v5686fc4d8807d893@mail.gmail.com> Dave, I am not an engineer, just sometimes a decent shade tree mechanic. I know for certain that the piston in my slave cyl has an indent that matched the end of the rod in order for the rod to be able to snap inside the piston and pulled back when not in use. I was surprised when I saw this. I also know that my original TO bearing cooked throwing shrapnel everywhere inside the housing after about 2k miles. It was installed by the previous owner who is British, has built several LBC's including a Mini that he currently has as well as a London Taxi. Jeremy also rebuilt the 1275 which has been running like a clock. Jeremy also worked on the car with his now deceased brother in law Tony. Somehow, the clutch TO bearing was left to ride full time against the clutch springs when not in use. . and I attributed this to the reason why it had such an early demise. I could be wrong. I would like to be wrong. When I put it all back together I ran a light pull spring outside of the mechanism to ensure that the TO bearing would not be getting any extra time against the clutch springs.. Someone on the list once mentioned that they owned a Volvo that also ran an outboard spring from the factory in this manner. Then they noted a later model Volvo where this was not the case. Whether it is a roller TO bearing or a carbon face unit, it would still make sense to me to avoid any additional friction? I have only about 1000 miles on the car since I put it back together. I also tossed the smooth case for a rib case that I had when I had the drive train out. At this point, the car shifts and runs perfectly. I could not be happier with the performance of the clutch. We'll see what happens as I put on more miles. (I drive the car everyday rain or shine, top up of course in the rain). I cannot stay out of this car. I am so fanatical about these cars. . that I at times wonder what the psychology is behind my madness? Kirk 59 BE From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun May 10 18:16:03 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:16:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! Message-ID: <2A4D9721-E6F1-488C-B071-F49963659F57@comcast.net> Hello all, I did a bad thing yesterday, following a childhood quest I purchased a Jag XKE. So.. does anyone know where to find a list like this one? Lester .. why yes, I was sober, why do you ask? From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun May 10 18:22:36 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 17:22:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! In-Reply-To: <2A4D9721-E6F1-488C-B071-F49963659F57@comcast.net> References: <2A4D9721-E6F1-488C-B071-F49963659F57@comcast.net> Message-ID: Diversity is the spice of life. http://forums.jag-lovers.org/lg.php3 Veddy serious people though compared to the rough and tumble here. ...bill in oregon ========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:16 PM To: Spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! Hello all, I did a bad thing yesterday, following a childhood quest I purchased a Jag XKE. So.. does anyone know where to find a list like this one? Lester .. why yes, I was sober, why do you ask? _______________________________________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun May 10 18:22:48 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:22:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! In-Reply-To: <2A4D9721-E6F1-488C-B071-F49963659F57@comcast.net> References: <2A4D9721-E6F1-488C-B071-F49963659F57@comcast.net> Message-ID: Your best bet, is not to bother looking for a list like that, but rather to trade that car for one of my spridgets. Problem solved. ;) -----Original Message----- From: Lester Hello all, I did a bad thing yesterday, following a childhood quest I purchased a Jag XKE. So.. does anyone know where to find a list like this one? Lester .. why yes, I was sober, why do you ask? From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun May 10 18:32:23 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 00:32:23 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! Message-ID: "I purchased a Jag XKE" LOL...."Lester gone wild"!!! So Lester, when is the divorce and is it a six or a 12, hardtop or convertible??? :):) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Lester Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:16 PM To: Spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net, bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! Hello all, I did a bad thing yesterday, following a childhood quest I purchased a Jag XKE. So.. does anyone know where to find a list like this one? Lester .. why yes, I was sober, why do you ask? You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun May 10 18:42:18 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 00:42:18 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net status Message-ID: "This time I've had enough" No offense intended, but ain't "Affirmative Action" just great?! 'Course, OTOH, one can imagine what they're paying their people to attract such talent. :( Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun May 10 18:46:08 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:46:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3EC49EE4-8760-4D4B-8D8A-BBC8526CC2F1@comcast.net> Ok, it's everything that I was looking for even the color.. '66 (I thought '67) XKE Coupe, 4.2 liter engine with the covered headlights.. it's gonna need some work but .. well.. I'm used to that. Going to have to sell one of my SAAB Sonett's, # 217.. any takers? ;-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180351894873 Lester On May 10, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > "I purchased a Jag XKE" > > LOL...."Lester gone wild"!!! > > So Lester, when is the divorce and is it a six or a 12, hardtop or > convertible??? :):) > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lester > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:16 PM > To: Spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net, bugeye at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! > > Hello all, > > I did a bad thing yesterday, following a childhood quest I purchased a > Jag XKE. So.. does anyone know where to find a list like this one? > > Lester > > .. why yes, I was sober, why do you ask? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Sun May 10 18:48:24 2009 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:48:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! In-Reply-To: <2A4D9721-E6F1-488C-B071-F49963659F57@comcast.net> References: <2A4D9721-E6F1-488C-B071-F49963659F57@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905110048.n4B0mSVq020951@mail.usimperio.com> Always thought they were the coolest looking car. Even started looking for one in my price range. Then I had to work on one (electrical). I still think they are a cool looking car. Dave At 08:16 PM 5/10/2009, you wrote: >Hello all, > >I did a bad thing yesterday, following a childhood quest I purchased a >Jag XKE. So.. does anyone know where to find a list like this one? > >Lester > >.. why yes, I was sober, why do you ask? From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun May 10 19:42:43 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 01:42:43 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! Message-ID: "It's gonna need some work" yep....like MGA's and their "L" structural part, XKE's have a certain weakness in this respect as well. Wish I could remember exactly wherein the body structures this was. What is needed here is a Jaguar guru guru.....sorta a Frank Clarici of XKEland. A websearch should reveal wherein one might hang out? CapBob Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Lester Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:46 PM To: Robert E.Shlafer Cc: Spridgets Spridgets@, bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need help! Ok, it's everything that I was looking for even the color.. '66 (I thought '67) XKE Coupe, 4.2 liter engine with the covered headlights.. it's gonna need some work but .. well.. I'm used to that. Going to have to sell one of my SAAB Sonett's, # 217.. any takers? ;-) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180351894873 Lester On May 10, 2009, at 7:32 PM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > "I purchased a Jag XKE" > > LOL...."Lester gone wild"!!! > > So Lester, when is the divorce and is it a six or a 12, hardtop or > convertible??? :):) > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lester > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:16 PM > To: Spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net, bugeye at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! > > Hello all, > > I did a bad thing yesterday, following a childhood quest I purchased a > Jag XKE. So.. does anyone know where to find a list like this one? > > Lester > > .. why yes, I was sober, why do you ask? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun May 10 20:18:12 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:18:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes Message-ID: <1C411F252CC04C2AB2A6A5BE5FAB9849@CatheyBPC> allright all ye wise ones: Lets see where this goes. Iris is driving me nuts with a problem and I havent found a solution. symptons: Warm day (above 80) go down the road and come up to a stop sign and she will die and not restart for a couple of minutes then she wil start but in a severley rich mode (i.e. loaded up) Let the temperature drop down to say 75 degrees and she will run perfect for any length of trip I want to go on without a hiccup one. If you never come to a stop sign and stay in the upper rpm ranges she will also run all day long. Sooooo... Is the problem fuel delivery related or ignition?? Have checked the points when it happens and spark is great. have removed the gas cap and drove but same issue happens. What is driving me nuts is when I go to check the problem out it will almost NEVER happen. leo From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 10 20:23:19 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 22:23:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A078C17.4000706@comcast.net> Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > "It's gonna need some work" > > > What is needed here is a Jaguar guru guru.....sorta a Frank Clarici of XKEland. > > > Jag Lovers list, and they have a guru but I can't remember his name. I was on it when I had my XJ6 and if you can deal with our list's guns, music, cats, etc, you can deal with the Jag owners "What shall I get on my vanity tag?" That drove me off that list. But there is ONE guy who knows his stuff, maybe 2. But please don't ask that list about a vanity tag. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun May 10 20:44:15 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 19:44:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes In-Reply-To: <1C411F252CC04C2AB2A6A5BE5FAB9849@CatheyBPC> References: <1C411F252CC04C2AB2A6A5BE5FAB9849@CatheyBPC> Message-ID: <4CC06DEF515F4E798AAC456A6A2D4C5F@spider> Fuel. Float bowl needle sticking open with higher temps? Increased temp at stop sign forcing fuel past bowl needle? ========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ldsp Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:18 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] running woes allright all ye wise ones: Lets see where this goes. Iris is driving me nuts with a problem and I havent found a solution. symptons: Warm day (above 80) go down the road and come up to a stop sign and she will die and not restart for a couple of minutes then she wil start but in a severley rich mode (i.e. loaded up) Let the temperature drop down to say 75 degrees and she will run perfect for any length of trip I want to go on without a hiccup one. If you never come to a stop sign and stay in the upper rpm ranges she will also run all day long. Sooooo... Is the problem fuel delivery related or ignition?? Have checked the points when it happens and spark is great. have removed the gas cap and drove but same issue happens. What is driving me nuts is when I go to check the problem out it will almost NEVER happen. leo _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 10 20:53:25 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:53:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! In-Reply-To: <200905110048.n4B0mSVq020951@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <> That ain't NOTHIN', Dave !!!!! The least "most funfest" job is doing the REAR IN-BOARD DISC brakes !!!!! Aaaaarrrrrggggg!!!! The ENTIRE rear 'sub-frame' has to be dropped AFTER the exhaust SYSTEM!!! Most SERIOUS PITA 'job' I have EVER done!!! 'Course didn't 'help' that car sat in a VERY damp, NON- concrete and UN-protected garage 'floor' for 16 YEARS !!!! I REPEAT, Aaaaarrrrrggggg!!!! NEVER again!!!!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun May 10 21:23:00 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:23:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! Message-ID: <659078.65325.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yes - I saw them when I was there a couple of weekends ago - she did a good job with them as I instantly understood the plates. Unfortunately, In NewYork you can have historic or vanity, but not both at the same time. Oh well. - David --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Frank wrote: From: Frank Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need help! To: "David Booker" Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:58 PM David Booker wrote: --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Frank wrote: " But please don't ask that list about a vanity tag. " Speaking of vanity tags... I used to have "4 GRINS" on my Triumph way back when in Tennessee. Thought about trying for it in NY, but found out that historic tags are incredibly cheap and they don't do vanity versions of them. (actually, historic tags are about right, they charge stupid-huge bucks for regular ones here) So I guess I'm too cheap to be vain. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island Tiff got NJ historics for her Sprite but historic vanity QQ on the side vertical and L8DBUG Ladybug was taken so she settled for L8D (lady) I didn't ask what she paid for them. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun May 10 21:40:25 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:40:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] If I had a welder, I'd welder in the mornin', I'd welder in the evenin'... Message-ID: <4859.2354.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Crap! I was getting ready to put my new "Chassis Saver" paint on the engine compartment and remembered that I hadn't removed the last two mounting screws I had to cut off from my original heater box. No big deal. Out comes the chisel and hammer to tap them with and a small pair of vice-grips to twist them out. A few miutes later, they were both out, but I was now painfully aware of just how little metal was actually left of the tray there. If I had remained unaware, I coulda painted it and put the new stuff back and gone blissfully on my way till the battery hit me in the foot some day. But nooooo. Now that I know, I'm reminded once again that I really need to get a welder and take some lessons. Instead, I'll probably try to get it to my neighbor's body shop some night after work and cut it all out, form up a new one on his brake and watch him weld it in. Man, I need to learn this welding stuff! - David From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Sun May 10 22:58:25 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:58:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Dave Riker's Message, TO Bearing, Etc Message-ID: <200905110458.n4B4wPL1004817@tremex.ucdavis.edu> For what its worth, the Austin A35 served as the powertrain donor for the bugeye, and it has a mechanical clutch that uses a pull-off spring. Carbon TO bearing-948cc. Glen From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 11 20:37:10 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 21:37:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning !!! Message-ID: It appears that MJB IS doing the upgrades he has mentioned as several of the other autox Lists are non-functioning. Just a FYI & FWIW !!! Me From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue May 12 07:09:03 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:09:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - online voting In-Reply-To: <82846.60370.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <82846.60370.qm@web52907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: For anyone helping out with this, this is his ( his wife's? ) status. I 'think' that they have to be in the top 20 to be elligible for judgng. Thanks! RD (we are in positions #27-#35 heading up!) This is a crucial week and the last one to make the step. Deadline May 15th. Your daily votes are very important now! LINK SEASON THINKING'S http://www.designareusablebag.com/vote-for-designs/bag.aspx?BagId=23127 LINK GROWING GREEN'S http://www.designareusablebag.com/vote-for-designs/bag.aspx?BagId=4918 TO ALL OF YOU: "SUPER" THANKS! From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue May 12 10:46:57 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:46:57 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] DIY car Message-ID: It's hard to feel sorry for someone attempting something they are clearly not capable of doing to any kind of standard until you something like this? _http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31315_ (http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31315) Return-path: From: Daniel1312 at aol.com Full-name: Daniel1312 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 13:18:58 EDT Subject: DIY car To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5037 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain _http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31315_ (http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31315) From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon May 11 13:04:23 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:04:23 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! Message-ID: Jag List - "Vannity Tag"...... :) Life in the land of ultra-important "Jaguar considerations"....dlsgusting!! Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From bighealey at charter.net Tue May 12 08:14:11 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 07:14:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for sale Message-ID: <5D2E697CE879463B8DF5715735322DDC@TRACY> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/1164806710.html Tracy From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon May 11 13:07:48 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:07:48 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] running woes Message-ID: This is an emissions-equipped 1500 Spridget, isn't it? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: ldsp Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:18 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] running woes allright all ye wise ones: Lets see where this goes. Iris is driving me nuts with a problem and I havent found a solution. symptons: Warm day (above 80) go down the road and come up to a stop sign and she will die and not restart for a couple of minutes then she wil start but in a severley rich mode (i.e. loaded up) Let the temperature drop down to say 75 degrees and she will run perfect for any length of trip I want to go on without a hiccup one. If you never come to a stop sign and stay in the upper rpm ranges she will also run all day long. Sooooo... Is the problem fuel delivery related or ignition?? Have checked the points when it happens and spark is great. have removed the gas cap and drove but same issue happens. What is driving me nuts is when I go to check the problem out it will almost NEVER happen. leo You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From smarc at smarc.net Mon May 11 15:24:09 2009 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:24:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <4A025ECF.9010601@smarc.net> References: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A025ECF.9010601@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4A089779.5020901@smarc.net> Thanks for all the responses. I still think something is not right about the clutch kit I put in, so I'm going to pull the lump and install a new kit. If you start seeing lots of '73 midget bits appearing for sale in the usual places, you can pretty well bet I got sick of screwing around with it... Marc wrote: > Ok, I have a spare clutch kit I can install if needed. The 'free pedal' > concept makes sense to me. I'm guessing that there is some difference in > my replacement slave cylinder, with the result effectively being that my > push rod is now too long, keeping the TO bearing in contact with the > diaphragm and causing an overthrow condition. > > In order to obtain the free pedal and appropriate TO bearing clearance, > I suppose I'll need to shorten the push rod by some fractional > increment(s) until I have it right. > > Hopefully, it's as simple as gaining the clearance necessary and there > "should" be ample travel left for proper disengagement? Um, how far is > too far (overthrow condition)? > > > Ron Soave wrote: > >> The instructions on my goofy Tilton clutch are very good in this respect - you >> put the car in gear, wheels up in the air, verify wheels don't turn. With >> assistant trying to turn wheels (he's usually curling, but still...) verify >> pedal is depressed some amount (I forget their exact recommendation, say >> 5/16") when wheels release. Set stop at some distance past that (like 3/4") to >> prevent over throw. We set it up with a fancy dial indicator, then just did it >> by feel at the track when it acted totally different. >> >> --- On Wed, 5/6/09, Dave Grandeffo wrote: >> >> Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 3:22 PM >> >> David Riker wrote: >> >> >>> The TO bearing is supposed to be in constant contact with the pressure >>> >>> >> plate. Like the pads on disc brakes, there is no spring to pull the throw out >> bearing away. It is the diaphram spring itself returning to rest that pushes >> back on the TO bearing.... >> >> >>> David R. >>> >>> >> Not to start an argument, but every clutch I've worked on is supposed to be >> set up with a measurable amount of "Free Pedal". This means that the first >> small increment of clutch pedal travel (typically 1/2" -1" or thereabouts - >> check your manual) doesn't move the pressure plate. In other words, there >> should be no tension/pressure on the throwout bearing. A lack of free pedal >> means that the throwout bearing is being held against the pressure plate, is >> spinning constantly, and will have a greatly reduced life span. This is the >> same reason you shouldn't come up to a stop sign and stay in gear with the >> clutch disengaged, no matter what they say in driver's ed.... >> >> I've never had to replace a throwout bearing on one of my own cars and I >> usually keep 'em for over 200,000 miles before they succumb to the tin worm. A >> throwout bearing is not designed to spin constantly. >> >> > > -- Marc From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon May 11 18:00:57 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 20:00:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Vegetables & Chocolate.... absolutely no LBC... In-Reply-To: <291702.3101.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <291702.3101.qm@web84201.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8DE64E91-07D6-425B-A435-365667664501@phillymgclub.com> Can you imagine being behind this car on the tack?? Is that a huge desire for strawberries or ice cream?? Larry On May 6, 2009, at 6:10 PM, DAVID GROPPER wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8031737.stm > > Dave G. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From mikey at b2systems.com Mon May 11 16:55:56 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 15:55:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] If I had a welder, I'd welder in the mornin', I'd welder in the evenin'... In-Reply-To: <4859.2354.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4859.2354.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1242082556.6900.98.camel@WebBrowser> Yes, you do need to learn to weld or get better friends who have already learned :) mike On Sun, 2009-05-10 at 20:40 -0700, David Booker wrote: > Crap! I was getting ready to put my new "Chassis Saver" paint on the engine > compartment and remembered that I hadn't removed the last two mounting screws > I had to cut off from my original heater box. No big deal. Out comes the > chisel and hammer to tap them with and a small pair of vice-grips to twist > them out. > > A few miutes later, they were both out, but I was now painfully aware of just > how little metal was actually left of the tray there. If I had remained > unaware, I coulda painted it and put the new stuff back and gone blissfully on > my way till the battery hit me in the foot some day. But nooooo. Now that I > know, I'm reminded once again that I really need to get a welder and take some > lessons. > > Instead, I'll probably try to get it to my neighbor's body shop some night > after work and cut it all out, form up a new one on his brake and watch him > weld it in. Man, I need to learn this welding stuff! > > - David > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Mon May 11 07:32:42 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 06:32:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes In-Reply-To: <1C411F252CC04C2AB2A6A5BE5FAB9849@CatheyBPC> References: <1C411F252CC04C2AB2A6A5BE5FAB9849@CatheyBPC> Message-ID: <598409603.20090511063242@pacifier.com> Hello ldsp, This is completely beyond me,.. I really don't know how to work on these cars nearly as much as most BUT... It sounds to me like for some reason the CHOKE is opening up when the car is HOT. I would be checking the the strength of the closing springs on the choke mechanism, or the things into which they hook. ... are they original or replacement springs? later springs may not have the proper steel and "melt" a little at that breakover temperature? Next time the car won't start throw open the hood and see if the choke has "fallen" open. ??? ?????? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Success lies in achieving the top of the foodchain. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue May 12 13:53:25 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:53:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] addendum to Vizard on valve guide seals Message-ID: <83F1142F3F6A424DB894D33DA8EB86CF@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> While I agree with Vizard's logic for leaving valve stem seals off the exhaust valves, there should be an addendum to the "Bible" that INSISTS on exhaust valve guide seals on turbocharged engines. The residual speed of the turbine after the throttle is shut leads to strong vacuum in the exhaust manifold that will suck oil BADLY. While the neighbors have been understanding and appreciative of the reduced mosquito count in the neighborhood, I'm pulling the head off next weekend to put them on. Without the exhaust tie-in of a turbo, a supercharger should be fine without the seals. Glen From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon May 11 17:53:15 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 19:53:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted In-Reply-To: References: <252192.47530.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000901c9ce61$89356fe0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <402188520905060849m2fda31ecq26f18eacd224b301@mail.gmail.com> <4A01D4A7.90407@wi.net> Message-ID: <9C46F1F6-78E6-4939-9605-28C5EC387216@phillymgclub.com> Back in the day, there were more Larry's on the list than Davids. THat's why I am The Really Really, Real Real Larry On May 6, 2009, at 3:46 PM, wrote: > Now ... if you're going to call the rest of us 'David', then I'll > certainly be > confused ... or at least have an excuse for the confusion that I > exhibit now. > >> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:19:19 -0500 >> From: dwoerpel at wi.net >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pull the tranny or not? Opinions wanted >> >> I'm confused! >> >> David W. (Dave) >> >> >> >> David Lieb wrote: >>> No, David Lieb is doing the cam job, David Booker is doing the >>> clutch > job. >>> Is yourr name not David? Bound to cause confusion. Mind if we call >>> you > David? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From daredelvis at gmail.com Mon May 11 08:56:04 2009 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 09:56:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! In-Reply-To: <2A4D9721-E6F1-488C-B071-F49963659F57@comcast.net> References: <2A4D9721-E6F1-488C-B071-F49963659F57@comcast.net> Message-ID: <531383560905110756n20370c4bpbb43830f4e19c54a@mail.gmail.com> I can help. Before you pop over to jag_lovers you should start calling it an E-type, not an XKE. Very jealous, Brian On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Lester wrote: > Hello all, > > I did a bad thing yesterday, following a childhood quest I purchased a Jag > XKE. So.. does anyone know where to find a list like this one? > > Lester > > .. why yes, I was sober, why do you ask? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as daredelvis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 11 05:35:32 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 06:35:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! References: Message-ID: Gee, it is in Rockford... Is Soave going to drive it out to you (I have no idea where you are...)? From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue May 12 19:42:57 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:42:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) In-Reply-To: <661546.84102.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <661546.84102.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Great shots Ron, I've always loved the P180. VERY cool airplane! ps you're right "it doesn't suck to be you"! Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Fri, 1 May 2009 18:21:58 -0700 > From: soavero at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Le Macchine d'Italia (No LBC) > > In the "maybe it doesn't always suck to be me" category, I was in Italy last week on business. I've uploaded a bunch of unorganized photos, some of which are the very cool little cars of Italy. Also as a card carrying Ginzalone, I felt it necessary to take a few of the food you see just wandering the streets. I was in Genoa, and there are also a bunch of Cinque Terre, where I spent last Saturday. By far, the best business trip I've ever been on. > > http://photobucket.com/Soave_Italy > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugeye15 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_ Mobile1_052009 From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Tue May 12 19:53:00 2009 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:53:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] new one for me Message-ID: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Tonight I was driving my 66 Sprite and switched on the headlights which caused the engine to sputter and spit and almost stall, like it was out of gas. When I shut off the lights, everything was fine, ran smooth. never happened before. Where do I start? Dick in NH From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue May 12 03:34:36 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 05:34:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Hotel any workshops over the weekend like last year? Message-ID: <205cef430905120234v3b04b55dm5e43f5b58626d6a3@mail.gmail.com> List, I know last year was special the 50th anniversary but will there be any workshops like last year at the Carlisle Hotel? Also now that I will be able to go on Saturday where are most of the list staying at? Lin From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue May 12 20:19:59 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:19:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1012A158FEF641E299120076D0A522F6@BASEMENTDELL> Functional or dysfunctional? Sorry, had to with that warning from ED :) Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed's Shop Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 9:37 PM To: 00 - SPM at autoX Subject: [Spridgets] Warning !!! It appears that MJB IS doing the upgrades he has mentioned as several of the other autox Lists are non-functioning. Just a FYI & FWIW !!! Me s From spritenut at comcast.net Tue May 12 20:41:25 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:41:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Hotel any workshops over the weekend like last year? In-Reply-To: <205cef430905120234v3b04b55dm5e43f5b58626d6a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905120234v3b04b55dm5e43f5b58626d6a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0A3355.1040800@comcast.net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I know last year was special the 50th anniversary but will there be any > workshops like last year at the Carlisle Hotel? Also now that I will be able > to go on Saturday where are most of the list staying at? > I am at the Motel 6 next to Hoss's just under the turnpike ramp. I am only staying Friday night leaving Saturday unless I change my mind and leave Sunday ;) Depends on the rain, and as usual it's supposed to rain. Call my cell when you are in Carlisle. No major Sprite stuff this year but there are always workshops at the Carlisle fairgrounds and they run a couple times a day. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue May 12 20:38:01 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:38:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] General water pump question In-Reply-To: <5D4D548CEE9B454F881747DC6316BD96@psych.washington.edu> References: <71BCF650CE254267A79BD2074FC13754@psych.washington.edu><402188520904291040x3a83ca46y9df8adc6b8af12c1@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0904291259y6afd648ao28efad431fd97ae3@mail.gmail.com> <5D4D548CEE9B454F881747DC6316BD96@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: Other than spewing coolant by pulling off a hose or looking for leaks, how do you know if your water pump is up to par or ready to launch into the radiator? On a 1098 at least... Thanks Chris 66MKIII From spritenut at comcast.net Tue May 12 20:46:12 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:46:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] new one for me In-Reply-To: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <4A0A3474.5010704@comcast.net> lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: > Tonight I was driving my 66 Sprite and switched on the headlights which > caused the engine to sputter and spit and almost stall, like it was out of > gas. When I shut off the lights, everything was fine, ran smooth. never > happened before. Where do I start? > Dick in NH > Dick Try it again with only the parking lights on, This will tell you if it's parking or headlights. You may have a short between the ignition and light circuit. White wire, ignition circuit Red wire, parking lights Blue wire (white stripe = high, red stripe = low beams) Check under the dash as the key and light switch are close Or the headlamp switch itself may have a terminal touching a ground causing a major short draining all the juice. I saw this on my 67 in the wiper switch. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue May 12 20:52:37 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 19:52:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] General water pump question In-Reply-To: References: <71BCF650CE254267A79BD2074FC13754@psych.washington.edu><402188520904291040x3a83ca46y9df8adc6b8af12c1@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0904291259y6afd648ao28efad431fd97ae3@mail.gmail.com><5D4D548CEE9B454F881747DC6316BD96@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <2036739ADB1247DC89803F6C2E407E7F@spider> Look for a leak out of the bottom of the water pump housing. Listen for squealing noise from water pump. Is there side-to-side play between the shaft and the pump housing? ============================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Manuel Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 7:38 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: [Spridgets] General water pump question Other than spewing coolant by pulling off a hose or looking for leaks, how do you know if your water pump is up to par or ready to launch into the radiator? On a 1098 at least... Thanks Chris 66MKIII _______________________________________________ From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Tue May 12 20:53:28 2009 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:53:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] new one for me In-Reply-To: <4A0A3474.5010704@comcast.net> References: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> <4A0A3474.5010704@comcast.net> Message-ID: On May 12, 2009, at 10:46 PM, Frank wrote: > lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: >> Where do I start? > Dick > Try it again with only the parking lights on, This will tell you if > it's parking or headlights. > You may have a short between the ignition and light circuit. > White wire, ignition circuit > Red wire, parking lights > Blue wire (white stripe = high, red stripe = low beams) > Check under the dash as the key and light switch are close > Or the headlamp switch itself may have a terminal touching a ground > causing a major short draining all the juice. > I saw this on my 67 in the wiper switch. Dick, If what Frank said is not the problem - check the output of the charging system. If there is not enough current to run the lights the coil may not be getting enough current to keep spark at the plugs. Kevin V. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue May 12 21:03:58 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:03:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] General water pump question In-Reply-To: <2036739ADB1247DC89803F6C2E407E7F@spider> References: <71BCF650CE254267A79BD2074FC13754@psych.washington.edu><402188520904291040x3a83ca46y9df8adc6b8af12c1@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0904291259y6afd648ao28efad431fd97ae3@mail.gmail.com><5D4D548CEE9B454F881747DC6316BD96@psych.washington.edu> <2036739ADB1247DC89803F6C2E407E7F@spider> Message-ID: <0DD4EA59EC784C5DBFE3D35FA0BFFC46@BASEMENTDELL> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] General water pump question >Look for a leak out of the bottom of the water pump housing. Oil drip, but nothing hitting the driveway >Listen for squealing noise from water pump. A rattle at idle? No squeal. >Is there side-to-side play between the shaft and the pump housing? Not that I can feel, could I have the belt too tight? Just paranoid since the alternator conversion is working w/o smoke :) Belt alignment is good in my line of sight. I hear a slight rattle from the front area at low idle at times. Chris From spritenut at comcast.net Tue May 12 21:13:46 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 23:13:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] General water pump question In-Reply-To: <0DD4EA59EC784C5DBFE3D35FA0BFFC46@BASEMENTDELL> References: <71BCF650CE254267A79BD2074FC13754@psych.washington.edu><402188520904291040x3a83ca46y9df8adc6b8af12c1@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0904291259y6afd648ao28efad431fd97ae3@mail.gmail.com><5D4D548CEE9B454F881747DC6316BD96@psych.washington.edu> <2036739ADB1247DC89803F6C2E407E7F@spider> <0DD4EA59EC784C5DBFE3D35FA0BFFC46@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <4A0A3AEA.9000901@comcast.net> Chris Manuel wrote: > > I hear a slight rattle from the front area at low idle at times. > > > Disconnect the fan belt, start the car, if the rattle is still there, it's the timing chain. If it went away and with the belt still off, wiggle the fan up/down and sideways, it should not wiggle. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue May 12 22:51:05 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:51:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] new one for me In-Reply-To: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <4A0A51B9.6060207@frontiernet.net> Generator? Kate lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: > Tonight I was driving my 66 Sprite and switched on the headlights which > caused the engine to sputter and spit and almost stall, like it was out of > gas. When I shut off the lights, everything was fine, ran smooth. never > happened before. Where do I start? > Dick in NH > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue May 12 23:43:09 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:43:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] new one for me In-Reply-To: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10905122243r5ba162bdv47313a4f15f2886d@mail.gmail.com> "Where do I start?"....Don't drive at night! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed May 13 04:47:08 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 05:47:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nope, it is the prettiest bugeye I have ever seen.... On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > This is an emissions-equipped 1500 Spridget, isn't it? > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ldsp > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 10:18 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] running woes > > allright all ye wise ones: Lets see where this goes. Iris is driving me > nuts > with a problem and I havent found a solution. > > symptons: > > Warm day (above 80) go down the road and come up to a stop sign and she > will > die and not restart for a couple of minutes then she wil start but in a > severley rich mode (i.e. loaded up) Let the temperature drop down to say > 75 > degrees and she will run perfect for any length of trip I want to go on > without a hiccup one. If you never come to a stop sign and stay in the > upper > rpm ranges she will also run all day long. > > Sooooo... Is the problem fuel delivery related or ignition?? > > Have checked the points when it happens and spark is great. have removed > the > gas cap and drove but same issue happens. > > What is driving me nuts is when I go to check the problem out it will > almost > NEVER happen. > > leo > You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From pchast at francomm.com Wed May 13 08:33:06 2009 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:33:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] new one for me In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10905122243r5ba162bdv47313a4f15f2886d@mail.gmail.com> References: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> <2ad6c6b10905122243r5ba162bdv47313a4f15f2886d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Voltage regulator adjustment, depending on year/ car On Tue, 12 May 2009 22:43:09 -0700, WFO Herb wrote: > > "Where do I start?"....Don't drive at night! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pchast at francomm.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From soavero at yahoo.com Wed May 13 05:58:14 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 04:58:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! Message-ID: <689374.94453.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Will do! WHatever else yo need, Lester - let me know. Time is tight, but I'll do what I can. After a crushing ebay loss this week (STFup, Thompson!) I need all the karma I can muster. Ron --- On Mon, 5/11/09, 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > From: 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need help! > To: "S pridgets" > Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 6:35 AM > Gee, it is in Rockford... Is Soave > going to drive it out to you (I have no idea where you > are...)? _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed May 13 06:47:35 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 07:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I need help! In-Reply-To: <689374.94453.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <689374.94453.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1BB2CFDB-85FB-43E8-A033-06A20842B215@comcast.net> Really? Hell I 'ld settle for him just rebuilding the engine real quick.. ;-) Lester But it might be nice to have a friendly face there when I pick it up.. ;-) On May 13, 2009, at 6:58 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > Will do! WHatever else yo need, Lester - let me know. Time is tight, > but I'll > do what I can. After a crushing ebay loss this week (STFup, > Thompson!) I need > all the karma I can muster. > > Ron > > --- On Mon, 5/11/09, 72 Spridget > <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > >> From: 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> >> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need help! >> To: "S pridgets" > >> Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 6:35 AM >> Gee, it is > in Rockford... Is Soave >> going to drive it out to you (I have no idea where > you >> are...)? _______________________________________________ >> Support > Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as > soavero at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed May 13 06:59:16 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:59:16 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <4A089779.5020901@smarc.net> References: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A025ECF.9010601@smarc.net> <4A089779.5020901@smarc.net> Message-ID: My apologies in advance ... If they do show up for sale is it still a 'free pedal'? ;) > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:24:09 -0400 > From: smarc at smarc.net > > If you start seeing lots of '73 midget bits appearing for sale in > the usual places, you can pretty well bet I got sick of screwing around > with it... > > > > Marc wrote: > The 'free pedal' concept makes sense to me. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed May 13 07:47:44 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:47:44 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] DIY car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What was that?!! :) > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > > It's hard to feel sorry for someone attempting something they are clearly > not capable of doing to any kind of standard until you something like this? > > _http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31315_ > (http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31315) From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed May 13 13:07:18 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:07:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lights = Engine Kill Message-ID: <37dc82d40905131207k4307f314haaab1c8bd01de0ca@mail.gmail.com> I had a bum ignition switch on the dash that would not let me shut off the engine, plus other weird things like you are having. Heck with it, I just yanked it out and set up my own turn on switch for the ignition wired separately and another switch just for the lights. My turn on switch is hidden under the dash. I never worry that anyone would find it. Plus, I keep an English Bull Terrier sitting in the car often enough that no one will get near the interior area without losing a hand! Other times, if I think that I would be a wise thing to do, I pull my steering wheel and hide it in the boot or I take it into the movies with me. It is a smaller steering wheel than the stock one I keep hanging in my garage. Kirk From davegran at tds.net Wed May 13 13:09:57 2009 From: davegran at tds.net (Dave Grandeffo) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:09:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes Message-ID: <4A0B1B05.9080508@tds.net> Leo wrote: > allright all ye wise ones: Lets see where this goes. Iris is driving me nuts > with a problem and I havent found a solution. > > symptons: > > Warm day (above 80) go down the road and come up to a stop sign and she will > die and not restart for a couple of minutes then she wil start but in a > severley rich mode (i.e. loaded up) Let the temperature drop down to say 75 > degrees and she will run perfect for any length of trip I want to go on > without a hiccup one. If you never come to a stop sign and stay in the upper > rpm ranges she will also run all day long. > > Sooooo... Is the problem fuel delivery related or ignition?? > Leo, Check to see if your fuel line is getting heat transferred to it from the exhaust. Move it or insulate it or make a heat shield. -- Dave Grandeffo From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed May 13 13:13:57 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 12:13:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lights = Engine Kill In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905131207k4307f314haaab1c8bd01de0ca@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905131207k4307f314haaab1c8bd01de0ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140905131213r3ed0e429le45ef764d85d2b1d@mail.gmail.com> I experienced strange symptoms like that in FROG AYE. Hit the brakes hard enough and the horn would honk! Something kinda natural in that doncha think? Anyway, it turned out that some of the smoke had escaped from the wiring harness. More escaped later when I converted to an alternator.... Installing a new wiring harness with all the appropriate smoke cured the problem. Hal From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed May 13 13:50:57 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 14:50:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes In-Reply-To: <4A0B1B05.9080508@tds.net> References: <4A0B1B05.9080508@tds.net> Message-ID: <7F23E405-FB70-441E-A198-33AACFDD8F82@comcast.net> The bad news is that I had that same symptom exactly.. but that was with the Judson ,, and the problem was that the carb jet had come out of it's home so there was now an enormous amount of fuel going in. Just figure out how the same thing could be happening with a SU and you're done. Heh.. Lester On May 13, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Dave Grandeffo wrote: > Leo wrote: >> allright all ye wise ones: Lets see where this goes. Iris is >> driving me nuts >> with a problem and I havent found a solution. >> >> symptons: >> >> Warm day (above 80) go down the road and come up to a stop sign >> and she will >> die and not restart for a couple of minutes then she wil start but >> in a >> severley rich mode (i.e. loaded up) Let the temperature drop down >> to say 75 >> degrees and she will run perfect for any length of trip I want to >> go on >> without a hiccup one. If you never come to a stop sign and stay in >> the upper >> rpm ranges she will also run all day long. >> >> Sooooo... Is the problem fuel delivery related or ignition?? >> > > Leo, > Check to see if your fuel line is getting heat transferred to it > from the exhaust. Move it or insulate it or make a heat shield. > > -- > Dave Grandeffo > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 13 14:06:17 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:06:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] General water pump question In-Reply-To: <4A0A3AEA.9000901@comcast.net> Message-ID: <> er but best to shut the motor down first, right Frank ?!?!?!? LOL (just HAD too) From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed May 13 14:29:30 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:29:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes In-Reply-To: <1C411F252CC04C2AB2A6A5BE5FAB9849@CatheyBPC> References: <1C411F252CC04C2AB2A6A5BE5FAB9849@CatheyBPC> Message-ID: Vapor Lock?? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 21:18:12 -0500 > Subject: [Spridgets] running woes > > allright all ye wise ones: Lets see where this goes. Iris is driving me nuts > with a problem and I havent found a solution. > > symptons: > > Warm day (above 80) go down the road and come up to a stop sign and she will > die and not restart for a couple of minutes then she wil start but in a > severley rich mode (i.e. loaded up) Let the temperature drop down to say 75 > degrees and she will run perfect for any length of trip I want to go on > without a hiccup one. If you never come to a stop sign and stay in the upper > rpm ranges she will also run all day long. > > Sooooo... Is the problem fuel delivery related or ignition?? > > Have checked the points when it happens and spark is great. have removed the > gas cap and drove but same issue happens. > > What is driving me nuts is when I go to check the problem out it will almost > NEVER happen. > > leo _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_ Mobile1_052009 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed May 13 14:43:54 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:43:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <659078.65325.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <659078.65325.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Dave, Do you know what , if any mileage restrictions there are for Historical plates? I picked up reg paperwork for my Bugeye and it says "You cannot use a historical vehicle for daily transportation. An automobile collector normally registers a historical vehicle or a vintage vehicle to use it for exhibits, club activities, tours, and parades" They are also only good for 1 year instead of 2 like normal plates. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:23:00 -0700 > From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > To: spritenut at comcast.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need help! > > Yes - I saw them when I was there a couple of weekends ago - she did a good > job with them as I instantly understood the plates. Unfortunately, In NewYork > you can have historic or vanity, but not both at the same time. Oh well. > > - David > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Frank wrote: > > From: Frank > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need help! > To: "David Booker" > Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:58 PM > > > > David Booker wrote: > > > > > > > --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Frank wrote: " But please don't > ask that list about a vanity tag. " > > Speaking of vanity tags... I used to have "4 GRINS" on my Triumph way back > when in Tennessee. Thought about trying for it in NY, but found out that > historic tags are incredibly cheap and they don't do vanity versions of them. > (actually, historic tags are about right, they charge stupid-huge bucks for > regular ones here) So I guess I'm too cheap to be vain. > > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > > > > > > Tiff got NJ historics for her Sprite but historic vanity QQ on the side > vertical and L8DBUG Ladybug was taken so she settled for L8D (lady) > I didn't ask what she paid for them. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugeye15 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_WhatsNew1_052009 From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed May 13 15:15:37 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:15:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: <659078.65325.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: FINALLY!! Something good from Louisiana.. "Antique Plates" down here cost $ 70.00 and are forever for any usage and that car no longer requires regular brake tags! Lester .. why yes, you can customize that with "BUGEYE" , how did you know? On May 13, 2009, at 3:43 PM, brian S wrote: > Dave, > > Do you know what , if any mileage restrictions there are for > Historical > plates? > I picked up reg paperwork for my Bugeye and it says > "You cannot use a historical vehicle for daily transportation. > An automobile collector normally registers a historical vehicle or a > vintage vehicle to use it for exhibits, club activities, tours, and > parades" > They are also only good for 1 year instead of 2 like normal plates. > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > >> Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:23:00 -0700 >> From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com >> To: spritenut at comcast.net >> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need help! >> >> Yes - I saw them when I was there a couple of weekends ago - she >> did a good >> job with them as I instantly understood the plates. Unfortunately, >> In > NewYork >> you can have historic or vanity, but not both at the same time. Oh >> well. >> >> - David >> >> --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Frank wrote: >> >> From: Frank >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I need help! >> To: "David Booker" >> Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 9:58 PM >> >> >> >> David Booker wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Frank wrote: " But >> please > don't >> ask that list about a vanity tag. " >> >> Speaking of vanity tags... I used to have "4 GRINS" on my Triumph >> way back >> when in Tennessee. Thought about trying for it in NY, but found >> out that >> historic tags are incredibly cheap and they don't do vanity >> versions of > them. >> (actually, historic tags are about right, they charge stupid-huge >> bucks for >> regular ones here) So I guess I'm too cheap to be vain. >> >> David Booker >> '71 Midget >> Long Island >> >> >> >> >> >> Tiff got NJ historics for her Sprite but historic vanity QQ on the >> side >> vertical and L8DBUG Ladybug was taken so she settled for L8D (lady) >> I didn't ask what she paid for them. >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> My own Fleet of Sprites >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bugeye15 at hotmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail. has a new way to see what's up with your friends. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria > l_WhatsNew1_052009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 13 15:47:17 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:47:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> 'splain PLEASE, Lester ?!?!?! Cars down there don't HAVE to have BRAKES?!?!? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed May 13 16:05:14 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:05:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1821FE52-52E8-4A3B-9490-EE01E070130A@comcast.net> Not once they have antique plates they don't! Welcome to Loosiana! ;-) Lester On May 13, 2009, at 4:47 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > < requires regular brake tags!>> > > 'splain PLEASE, Lester ?!?!?! > > Cars down there don't HAVE to have BRAKES?!?!? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 13 16:12:09 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:12:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <<"You cannot use a historical vehicle for daily transportation. An automobile collector normally registers a historical vehicle or a vintage vehicle to use it for exhibits, club activities, tours, and parades">> In ILL there is ALSO a mileage restriction (just to 'stoke the fire'), Brian. Then on top of that, if you are pulled over and the cop is having a BAD day (or worse yet he/her is a Officer from the Sect. of State --- VERY 'un-forgiving') if he/she decides you ARE in fact LYING about you current 'activity' (such as being in supermarket Lot and your DO have a couple bags of groceries) not only will you receive a CITATION (for improper license plate usage) but said plates "May" be REMOVED from your car (& kept by the Officer) and NOW your only 'option' is to have car flat-bed towed home !!!! As I tell ANY "older" car owner, do NOT get Antq. Plates because of above!!! Out $78 for plates just got CHEAP, huh!!! BTW, you will NEVER get the plates (or a NEW registration w/Antq. plates for the car) back. Yer screwed. NOT a case for 'We Tight' !!!!! Ed From billmasq at hotmail.com Wed May 13 16:29:36 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:29:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] addendum to Vizard on valve guide seals In-Reply-To: <83F1142F3F6A424DB894D33DA8EB86CF@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <83F1142F3F6A424DB894D33DA8EB86CF@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: Glenn Stuff about 5 feet of cotton rope in the cylinder (after you have pulled out the spark plug) and turn the engine over until it "binds up" and the rope is holding the valve up in the head. Add the oil seal and then pull the rope back out (you DID leave some of it hanging out didn't you?). Works great if you are careful. Bill > From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 12:53:25 -0700 > Subject: [Spridgets] addendum to Vizard on valve guide seals > > While I agree with Vizard's logic for leaving valve stem seals off the exhaust > valves, there should be an addendum to the "Bible" that INSISTS on exhaust > valve guide seals on turbocharged engines. The residual speed of the turbine > after the throttle is shut leads to strong vacuum in the exhaust manifold that > will suck oil BADLY. While the neighbors have been understanding and > appreciative of the reduced mosquito count in the neighborhood, I'm pulling > the head off next weekend to put them on. Without the exhaust tie-in of a > turbo, a supercharger should be fine without the seals. > > Glen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd1_052009 From mikey at b2systems.com Wed May 13 16:38:13 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 15:38:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1242254293.18897.33.camel@WebBrowser> A friend somehow got Historical plates for his 78 Ferrari 308, it was his daily driver, drove that car everywhere and everyday. When it came time to sell it, I wanted that car so badly and he kept telling me not to worry about the plates, just drive it. It was VERY appealing since it exempted the car from smog tests. I passed on it and the new owner a few months later got the plates pulled when he was pulled over at a drunk stop (he was not drunk, just a Calif. thing where they pull over everyone driving down a road for license and insurance checks and oh yeah, have you been drinking?). Car ended up being sold out of state to get plates on it. The rules for historical plates seem really odd to me if you can get a 1978 car with them and also if you can daily drive with no issues for several years. mike On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 17:12 -0500, Ed's Shop wrote: > <<"You cannot use a historical vehicle for daily transportation. > An automobile collector normally registers a historical vehicle or a > vintage vehicle to use it for exhibits, club activities, tours, and > parades">> > > In ILL there is ALSO a mileage restriction (just to 'stoke the fire'), > Brian. > > Then on top of that, if you are pulled over and the cop is having a BAD > day (or worse yet he/her is a Officer from the Sect. of State --- > VERY 'un-forgiving') if he/she decides you ARE in fact LYING about > you current 'activity' (such as being in supermarket Lot and your DO > have a couple bags of groceries) not only will you receive a > CITATION (for improper license plate usage) but said plates "May" > be REMOVED from your car (& kept by the Officer) and NOW your > only 'option' is to have car flat-bed towed home !!!! > > As I tell ANY "older" car owner, do NOT get Antq. Plates because > of above!!! Out $78 for plates just got CHEAP, huh!!! > > BTW, you will NEVER get the plates (or a NEW registration w/Antq. > plates for the car) back. Yer screwed. > > NOT a case for 'We Tight' !!!!! > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed May 13 17:06:16 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:06:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] World News - Charles Gibson Message-ID: <7lku3e$65avst@email.mtu.edu> Just caught the World News with Gibson. The last story was about the "Astronaut who is a mechanic." The story showed two cars in his garage. One was an MG Midget - I'm quite sure! Have to wait a day or two to watch web version. Anyone else see it? Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed May 13 17:13:35 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:13:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <1242254293.18897.33.camel@WebBrowser> References: <1242254293.18897.33.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <4333f8140905131613u3de115e1nd4099917224faabf@mail.gmail.com> In California, "A vehicle which was manufactured after 1922, is at least 25 years old, and is of historic interest" may be registered as a historic vehicle; however, "As used in this section, a vehicle is of historic interest if it is collected, restored, maintained, and operated by a collector or hobbyist principally for purposes of exhibition and historic vehicle club activities." So if you are using historic vehicle plates to avoid paying taxes or avoid smog testing you are messing with the most feared bureaucracy known to mankind: the CA DMV! Hal On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:38 PM, mike rambour wrote: > A friend somehow got Historical plates for his 78 Ferrari 308, it was > his daily driver, drove that car everywhere and everyday. When it came > time to sell it, I wanted that car so badly and he kept telling me not > to worry about the plates, just drive it. It was VERY appealing since > it exempted the car from smog tests. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed May 13 17:47:19 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:47:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <1242254293.18897.33.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: > Historical plates for his 78 Ferrari 308 Over 25 years is an antique. You can imagine how this makes me feel. From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed May 13 17:47:02 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 16:47:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: <1242254293.18897.33.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <4333f8140905131647h644f91e9pab630f100e339b18@mail.gmail.com> No wonder Dylan said "don't trust anyone over 30." Hal On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Historical plates for his 78 Ferrari 308 > Over 25 years is an antique. You can imagine how this makes me feel. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 17:58:12 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:58:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "mike rambour" ; "spridgets list" Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NY Plates > Historical plates for his 78 Ferrari 308 Over 25 years is an antique. You can imagine how this makes me feel. _______________________________________________ Pretty much like every other antique on this list, Billy. I'd wager that 90% of this list is over 50. LAD (55) From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed May 13 18:03:13 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:03:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <93DBCF3734F2489F8552DBA74033A065@BASEMENTDELL> I've actually seen a 1st generation minivan and Cavalier with them around here. I'll have to look for them at car shows...they sure were not good specimens, other than the fact they still ran. Plates (for life) cost around $200 if I recall in WI. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:58 PM To: Billy Zoom; mike rambour; spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NY Plates ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "mike rambour" ; "spridgets list" Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NY Plates > Historical plates for his 78 Ferrari 308 Over 25 years is an antique. You can imagine how this makes me feel. _______________________________________________ Pretty much like every other antique on this list, Billy. I'd wager that 90% of this list is over 50. LAD (55) You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com Wed May 13 18:21:55 2009 From: flyfisha2181 at yahoo.com (John Gosselin) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 17:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] world news Message-ID: <991850.16004.qm@web44802.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> The other was a BMW. The Healey he built for his wife!! From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 13 18:40:24 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:40:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: Message-ID: > As I tell ANY "older" car owner, do NOT get Antq. Plates because > of above!!! Out $78 for plates just got CHEAP, huh!!! > NOT a case for 'We Tight' !!!!! And yet Barney Gaylord drives his MGA with IL antique plates more miles every year than any two other people and the only problem he has ever had was with an officer who pulled him over in 2002 and could not understand how Barney had plates that claimed they did not expire until 2004. By the time Barney was done explaining antique plates to the guy, he was probably happy to escape. There is NOT a mileage limit in Illinois. I have checked the Secretary of State and the Illinois Motor Vehicle Code book (yes, the big one intended for use by insomniacs). David Lieb From pythias at pacifier.com Wed May 13 19:06:15 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:06:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates Message-ID: <132769966.20090513180615@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, regarding mileage limits, for the states that have them... all they can go by is the stated mileage from the time of purchase. Has anyone ever been pulled over and had the officer check his ODOMETER? Anyone actually think the cop has access to the mileage listed at the time the plate was issued?.. The only problem could come from an insurance claim when using collector car insurance IF that specific company has such a limitation... Here in the State of Washington, there is not a hard and fast limit, ------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- Collector vehicles may be driven: * to and from auto shows, circuses, parades, displays, special excursions, and antique car club meetings. * for testing purposes. * for the pleasure of others without compensation. Collector vehicles may not be used for: * commercial purposes or to carry a load. * regular transportation in the manner of a fully licensed vehicle. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- Driving my Sprite is ALWAYS for testing purposes, and I never charge anyone to look and SMILE... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com Computer programmers never die, they just get lost in the processing. From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Wed May 13 19:10:35 2009 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:10:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Lights on+ runs poorly Message-ID: <50260.72.64.14.207.1242263435.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Problem solved. Old battery - no charge because I had previously jumped the car. Not enough juice to run coil plus lights. New battery= problem solved. Thanks Goss. Dick From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 13 19:39:53 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 18:39:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <132769966.20090513180615@pacifier.com> References: <132769966.20090513180615@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4A0B7669.7030804@frontiernet.net> Yup. I was pulled over by a Commune of Eugene traffic cop who asked what kind of stickers I had. Somehow, I don't think "Valid ones" was the answer he wanted. Next he asked what state issued them. I politely replied "Oregon", which was another answer he didn't seem to like. He went back to his motorcycle and kept his dispatcher busy looking up regulations for the next 45 minutes. Then he came back and asked where I was going and proceeded to tell me that driving the car to a shop to get the brakes worked on was not allowed under the statute. That's cool, I can drive it without brakes. Next he asked what my odometer showed, and checked himself, since an obvious criminal type such as myself would probably lie. Before he left, he told me that the next time he saw me driving the MG, he would be checking the mileage. Kate > Has anyone ever been pulled over and had the officer check his > ODOMETER? From spritenut at comcast.net Wed May 13 19:52:17 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:52:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lights = Engine Kill In-Reply-To: <4333f8140905131213r3ed0e429le45ef764d85d2b1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905131207k4307f314haaab1c8bd01de0ca@mail.gmail.com> <4333f8140905131213r3ed0e429le45ef764d85d2b1d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0B7951.80103@comcast.net> Hal Faulkner wrote: > I experienced strange symptoms like that in FROG AYE. Hit the brakes hard > enough and the horn would honk! What's this? FROG AYE must have been a New York taxicab to have that horn setup. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Wed May 13 20:03:34 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:03:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lights on+ runs poorly In-Reply-To: <50260.72.64.14.207.1242263435.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50260.72.64.14.207.1242263435.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <4A0B7BF6.708@comcast.net> So tonight leaving the local Cruise night, I switched on my city lights to get through town and then switched on the headlamps to notice the high beams were on. Push the floor switch and the car almost died and the dash and headlamps went dim, very dim and the smell of smoke escaping from the harness was in the air. I quickly switched on the high beams and all was fine. I know I have a short and I have to find it tomorrow night before I drive out to PennsylRAINia for my annual trek to Carlisle. One good thing about Carlisle, it lets me use my top and side curtains each and every year, well 20 years out of 21 now it has rained, and this year it's supposed to rain. So I have to fix my headlights! Dick, is this contagious? I didn't have this problem until you mentioned it last night. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed May 13 20:01:04 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:01:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss's Engine Paint Message-ID: <1DD78BCFF7C54295BF506AE31DA3B5F2@blackbox2> Is it just me, or is Moss's engine paint NOT the correct olive green color that we all know and love? From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed May 13 20:04:56 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:04:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A0B7C48.1040206@sbcglobal.net> In Missouri, vehicles displaying historic or antique license plates may be driven: 1. To and from exhibitions and educational events without any mileage limitation; 2. To repair facilities within a 100 mile limit; and 3. Up to 1,000 miles per year for personal use. The owner is responsible for keeping a log of the miles driven for personal use each calendar year. The log must be kept in the vehicle when the vehicle is being driven on any state road. Historic license plates are a permanent registration and cannot be transferred. If you sell or dispose of the vehicle, you must return the plates to the Missouri Department of Revenue. The vehicle must be at least 25 years old and the plates cost only $25.25 and no more safety or emissions tests! I have them on my Midget and am not worried about the 1,000 mile limit. The log book doesn't ask for mileage, just miles and the cop can't expect me to have filled out the book for today's trip when he pulls me over. Lee From spritenut at comcast.net Wed May 13 20:09:47 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:09:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss's Engine Paint In-Reply-To: <1DD78BCFF7C54295BF506AE31DA3B5F2@blackbox2> References: <1DD78BCFF7C54295BF506AE31DA3B5F2@blackbox2> Message-ID: <4A0B7D6B.6080108@comcast.net> Dean Hedin wrote: > Is it just me, or is Moss's engine paint NOT the correct olive green > color that we all know and love? Moss green was just that, moss green ;) More like Kawasaki green when I bought a can back in the 80s. Paul A has the right stuff. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From CAWS52803 at aol.com Wed May 13 20:13:19 2009 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:13:19 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] World News - Charles Gibson Message-ID: Yes, we saw it and it was a Square Body Austin-Healey Sprite he was doing for his wife. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002) From davriker at nwi.net Wed May 13 20:40:28 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 19:40:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: <132769966.20090513180615@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <94158EF3B6BA4999A9FE95E0FF291FE8@MAIN> Out of curiosity, I've been reading the Washington state statutes regarding this, and can find NO subsections regarding enforcement, or penalties for violations, only the code section you have quoted. They also do not define "regular transportation". I thought all driving was a special excursion! David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NY Plates > > Here in the State of Washington, there is not a hard and fast > limit, > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------------------- > Collector vehicles may be driven: > > * to and from auto shows, circuses, parades, displays, special > excursions, and antique car club meetings. > * for testing purposes. > * for the pleasure of others without compensation. > > Collector vehicles may not be used for: > > * commercial purposes or to carry a load. > * regular transportation in the manner of a fully licensed vehicle. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed May 13 20:48:06 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:48:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] World News - Charles Gibson In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0905131948k6f92d3b7sc372275e3e7240e8@mail.gmail.com> Anybody catch the name? We should invite them to the big Spridget event in 2011!! Cheers!! Jim On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM, wrote: > Yes, we saw it and it was a Square Body Austin-Healey Sprite he was doing > for his wife. > Rudy Streng > Lenoir, NC > **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > ( > http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcnt ustrav00000002 > ) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed May 13 20:52:30 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:52:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss's Engine Paint References: <1DD78BCFF7C54295BF506AE31DA3B5F2@blackbox2> <4A0B7D6B.6080108@comcast.net> Message-ID: It's ridiculous. Why does Moss even bother selling it? It's good to know Paul has the right stuff, but I'm not pulling the engine back out to repaint it. Maybe next time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" > Dean Hedin wrote: >> Is it just me, or is Moss's engine paint NOT the correct olive green >> color that we all know and love? > Moss green was just that, moss green ;) More like Kawasaki green when I > bought a can back in the 80s. > Paul A has the right stuff. From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 13 21:03:44 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:03:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] World News - Charles Gibson In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905131948k6f92d3b7sc372275e3e7240e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Yer the 'G-man' and now with loads of free time Jim, why don't you find out?? After all, he IS a 'captive' "up above our heads" and for a few days !!! LOL He doesn't even weigh much! From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 13 21:15:12 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:15:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> I have been LOLing FAR TO HARD to even type David, because you ARE (at least) 1000% CORRECT !!!!! GREAT gent BUT....... And to clarify for the rest of you Non-Illini, Barney is the chap that did the 19K trip a few years back in his MGB TOWING a single axle trailer for the entire trip!!! http://www.mgaguru.com/ B. does NOT have a SHORT explanation for anything!!!! While the IVC does back you up re mileage David it DID use to be there (10+ years ago??). However it ILCS Chapter 625, Section 3-804(a) DOES say: The application for registration must be accompanied by an affirmation of the owner that such vehicle will be driven on the highway only for the purpose of going to and returning from an antique auto show or an exhibition, or for servicing or demonstration and also affirming that the mechanical condition, physical condition, brakes, lights, glass and appearance of such vehicle is the same or as safe as originally equipped. So if a SOS Officer was in a bad mood (never, I know) and saw you drive your car(s) TO work and then LATER in the day HOME..... I just fail to see the 'need' to save the trifling amount(s) (I have FOUR (4) cars that DO qualify) vs even just one "ticket/yanked/court/towing" session!!! From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed May 13 22:10:28 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:10:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] World News - Charles Gibson In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905131948k6f92d3b7sc372275e3e7240e8@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0905131948k6f92d3b7sc372275e3e7240e8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10905132110o75d3ec14yb4b608e5ecba7af2@mail.gmail.com> Or at least get them on the list! On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Anybody catch the name? We should invite them to the big Spridget event in > 2011!! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:13 PM, wrote: > > > Yes, we saw it and it was a Square Body Austin-Healey Sprite he was doing > > for his wife. > > Rudy Streng > > Lenoir, NC > > **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > > the U.S. > > ( > > > > http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcnt > ustrav00000002 > > ) > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am > not > sure about the former. - Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed May 13 22:21:02 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:21:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <00a001c9d437$fa1a7ee0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <132769966.20090513180615@pacifier.com> <4A0B7669.7030804@frontiernet.net> <00a001c9d437$fa1a7ee0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <4A0B9C2E.1020708@frontiernet.net> This was after "Real" Murphy's demise. Also, I was using my split shift to run over to Brit Auto - at least that's what I had told the cop. I knew Jim would back me up. It was the first nice day of spring. I HAD to drive the Midget. Kate Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Kate, how come he didn't stick his face in front of the dog riding shotgun > in the left seat? From dwramsey at att.net Wed May 13 22:43:42 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:43:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] World News - Charles Gibson In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$65avst@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <20090514044345.2B0DA187655@autox.team.net> Yea I saw it but it was a Sprite not an MG. They even showed the hood emblem. Crash Just caught the World News with Gibson. The last story was about the "Astronaut who is a mechanic." The story showed two cars in his garage. One was an MG Midget - I'm quite sure! Have to wait a day or two to watch web version. Anyone else see it? Tim Collins From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu May 14 04:47:49 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 05:47:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <4A0B7669.7030804@frontiernet.net> References: <132769966.20090513180615@pacifier.com> <4A0B7669.7030804@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: As some of you may know, I listen to bands that no one has ever heard of. This story reminds me of one such band. Brian Henneman used to play with alt/country legend Uncle Tupelo (with Jeff Tweedy now of Wilco, and Jay Farrar now of Son Volt). He went on to form The Bottle Rockets. On their disc The Brooklyn Side, he had a song about such a cop that a band member had a run in with. The song is called Radar Gun, and if you can find it, it is well worth the listen. "Straight from 12th grade to the Junior College Buddy, buddy, buddy, I passed my exam Making me a law enforcement person Got me a gun and a badge, I'm a man" Brad On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > Yup. I was pulled over by a Commune of Eugene traffic cop who asked what > kind of stickers I had. Somehow, I don't think "Valid ones" was the answer > he wanted. Next he asked what state issued them. I politely replied > "Oregon", which was another answer he didn't seem to like. He went back to > his motorcycle and kept his dispatcher busy looking up regulations for the > next 45 minutes. Then he came back and asked where I was going and proceeded > to tell me that driving the car to a shop to get the brakes worked on was > not allowed under the statute. That's cool, I can drive it without brakes. > Next he asked what my odometer showed, and checked himself, since an obvious > criminal type such as myself would probably lie. Before he left, he told me > that the next time he saw me driving the MG, he would be checking the > mileage. > > Kate > >> Has anyone ever been pulled over and had the officer check his >> ODOMETER? >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 14 05:29:27 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 06:29:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: Message-ID: <8899F54E1DFB4B2AB57A0FC0E84F7880@rwa> > The application for registration must be accompanied by an affirmation of > the owner that such vehicle will be driven on the highway only for the > purpose of going to and returning from an antique auto show or an > exhibition, or for servicing or demonstration and also affirming that the > mechanical condition, physical condition, brakes, lights, glass and > appearance of such vehicle is the same or as safe as originally equipped. > > > So if a SOS Officer was in a bad mood (never, I know) and saw you > drive your car(s) TO work and then LATER in the day HOME..... > > I just fail to see the 'need' to save the trifling amount(s) (I have FOUR > (4) cars that DO qualify) vs even just one "ticket/yanked/court/towing" > session!!! Trifling amount? I guess I don't have your kind of money! Let me see... four cars with normal plates for five years = $1560 or $312 per year. Four cars with antique plates for five years = $120 or $24 per year. $288 per year is NOT quite trifling to me. I will admit that I have been seriously contemplating reverting the Midget to "normal" plates. David Lieb From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu May 14 06:53:53 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 05:53:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates Message-ID: <2d02301c9d493$093fb1a0$056a010a@mail2world.com> You would if you wanted a bit more than the original 50hp out of a wheezy fully smogged 1500! Admittedly, I did put "normal" NJ plates on my Cosworth because I had intended to drive it more as a daily. So far, it has passeed the biannual smog test (idle only for 1975) no problem. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Ed's Shop [shop at justbrits.com] Sent: 5/13/2009 11:17:12 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NY Plates I just fail to see the 'need' to save the trifling amount(s) (I have FOUR (4) cars that DO qualify) vs even just one "ticket/yanked/court/towing" session!!! _______________________________________________ . From peter at nosimport.com Thu May 14 07:41:48 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:41:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> In 'sconsin, get a "collector" plate. 1 fee forever. You only need 1 other regular car. Restricted use in January only. (and who'd want to drive around in January)... unless you collect antique snowplows) That a 1989 Honda Prelude qualifies is somewhat disturbing..... only 20 years, and we started this biz in 82! Yikes! Peter C = At 07:40 PM 5/13/2009, 72 Spridget wrote: >>As I tell ANY "older" car owner, do NOT get Antq. Plates because >>of above!!! Out $78 for plates just got CHEAP, huh!!! >>NOT a case for 'We Tight' !!!!! > >And yet Barney Gaylord drives his MGA with IL antique plates more >miles every year than any two other people and the only problem he >has ever had was with an officer who pulled him over in 2002 and >could not understand how Barney had plates that claimed they did not >expire until 2004. By the time Barney was done explaining antique >plates to the guy, he was probably happy to escape. >There is NOT a mileage limit in Illinois. I have checked the >Secretary of State and the Illinois Motor Vehicle Code book (yes, >the big one intended for use by insomniacs). >David Lieb _______________________________________________ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 14 08:00:19 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:00:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: "S pridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NY Plates In 'sconsin, get a "collector" plate. 1 fee forever. You only need 1 other regular car. Restricted use in January only. (and who'd want to drive around in January)... unless you collect antique snowplows) That a 1989 Honda Prelude qualifies is somewhat disturbing..... only 20 years, and we started this biz in 82! Yikes! Peter C = ============= You can get a "Hobbyist" plate for the same money and the same rules as a "Collector" plate, with the exception that a Collector must be original and unmodified, i.e. no 1275s or front discs in your Bugeye (or Mini). With the Hobbyist plate you can do darn near anything you want to it. LAD From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 14 08:08:19 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:08:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > You can get a "Hobbyist" plate for the same money and the same rules as a > "Collector" plate, with the exception that a Collector must be original and > unmodified, i.e. no 1275s or front discs in your Bugeye (or Mini). With > the > Hobbyist plate you can do darn near anything you want to it. What's the chance some 25 year old cop is going to ask you to lift the bonnet and say. "Aha! HIF-44 and Judson, 1380cc, tube shock conversion, Electronic ignition... Okay, buddy, you're going down town with me!"? Cheers!! Jim - Who has been driving and riding for years in Kansas with Antique motorcycle and car plates and only stopped so the cop could admire the vehicles. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 14 08:11:55 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:11:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> <43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >> Okay, buddy, you're going down town with me! Your cops are like that in Kansas? Up here, that would be considered abuse of authority! ;) > Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:08:19 -0500 > > What's the chance some 25 year old cop is going to ask you to lift the > bonnet and say. "Aha! HIF-44 and Judson, 1380cc, tube shock conversion, > Electronic ignition... Okay, buddy, you're going down town with me!"? > > Cheers!! > Jim - Who has been driving and riding for years in Kansas with Antique > motorcycle and car plates and only stopped so the cop could admire the > vehicles. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 14 08:11:19 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:11:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> <43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It's the 55 year old cop that was a motorhead in his youth that you need to worry about. The only downside to doing it legally with the Hobbyist plate is that it is the butt-uglyist plate you ever saw. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Johnson To: Larry Daniels Cc: S pridgets ; Peter Caldwell Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NY Plates On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: You can get a "Hobbyist" plate for the same money and the same rules as a "Collector" plate, with the exception that a Collector must be original and unmodified, i.e. no 1275s or front discs in your Bugeye (or Mini). With the Hobbyist plate you can do darn near anything you want to it. What's the chance some 25 year old cop is going to ask you to lift the bonnet and say. "Aha! HIF-44 and Judson, 1380cc, tube shock conversion, Electronic ignition... Okay, buddy, you're going down town with me!"? Cheers!! Jim - Who has been driving and riding for years in Kansas with Antique motorcycle and car plates and only stopped so the cop could admire the vehicles. From davriker at nwi.net Thu May 14 08:13:25 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 07:13:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: Message-ID: <533E1D8E29CF4F3299477663CBEB177D@MAIN> Ed, when my Midget was in an accident last year, the only reason the other guys insurance company was willing to get an appraisal to settle on the value was BECAUSE it had collector plates on it. I had received them 2 days before the accident. :) Another GOOD reason to have them on your car. And since you own a shop, isn't every trip to work to "perform maintenance or repair"? I know that is the excuse I use... David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: "S pridgets" Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NY Plates > I just fail to see the 'need' to save the trifling amount(s) (I have FOUR > (4) cars that DO qualify) vs even just one "ticket/yanked/court/towing" > session!!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.329 / Virus Database: 270.12.28/2113 - Release Date: 05/13/09 18:04:00 From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 14 08:27:47 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:27:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <533E1D8E29CF4F3299477663CBEB177D@MAIN> References: <533E1D8E29CF4F3299477663CBEB177D@MAIN> Message-ID: <402188520905140727w6324a83ckf5ab3da0994cf9b2@mail.gmail.com> > before the accident. :) Another GOOD reason to have them on your car. And > since you own a shop, isn't every trip to work to "perform maintenance or > repair"? I know that is the excuse I use... Unfortunately, it simply isn't worth the effort to fire up Hortense to cross the driveway ;-) From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu May 14 08:29:49 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:29:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <8899F54E1DFB4B2AB57A0FC0E84F7880@rwa> References: <8899F54E1DFB4B2AB57A0FC0E84F7880@rwa> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0905140729r696b9b21wa6d77509372de6e@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:29 AM, 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > The application for registration must be accompanied by an affirmation of >> the owner that such vehicle will be driven on the highway only for the >> purpose of going to and returning from an antique auto show or an >> exhibition, or for servicing or demonstration and also affirming that the >> mechanical condition, physical condition, brakes, lights, glass and >> appearance of such vehicle is the same or as safe as originally equipped. >> >> >> So if a SOS Officer was in a bad mood (never, I know) and saw you >> drive your car(s) TO work and then LATER in the day HOME..... >> >> I just fail to see the 'need' to save the trifling amount(s) (I have FOUR >> (4) cars that DO qualify) vs even just one "ticket/yanked/court/towing" >> session!!! >> > > Trifling amount? I guess I don't have your kind of money! Let me see... > four cars with normal plates for five years = $1560 or $312 per year. > Four cars with antique plates for five years = $120 or $24 per year. $288 > per year is NOT quite trifling to me. > I will admit that I have been seriously contemplating reverting the Midget > to "normal" plates. I have to agree about the "trifling amount" comment! That $12 fee last year (which covers last year AND this year) when I converted from normal plates to antique plates was a whole lot easier to pay! My 73 doesn't get used as a daily driver, but there are days when it's all I use! :-) Of course per the above quoted IL rules most of my driving is for demonstration purposes! The only guys who seem to have trouble with antique plates here in west-central IL are the ones who insist on running "year of manufacture - aka. historical plates". Quoting IL SOS website : Historical License Plates, representing the model year, may be displayed on an antique vehicle, provided the owner has valid, current Antique Vehicle Plates. Plates and registration must be kept in the vehicle at all times. I fully understand giving those guys grief because without a current registered plate on the car the police have no idea who the car is registered to! It may help that one of the ranking officers here drives a very nice (1966 I believe) Chevy II with antique plates (he mounts historical plates when he shows it) ... and he's certainly been seen driving it for casual use! From peter at nosimport.com Thu May 14 08:39:16 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:39:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <533E1D8E29CF4F3299477663CBEB177D@MAIN> References: <533E1D8E29CF4F3299477663CBEB177D@MAIN> Message-ID: <200905140739816.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 09:13 AM 5/14/2009, David Riker wrote: >Ed, when my Midget was in an accident last year, the only reason the >other guys insurance company was willing to get an appraisal to >settle on the value was BECAUSE it had collector plates on it. I >had received them 2 days before the accident. :) Another GOOD >reason to have them on your car. And since you own a shop, isn't >every trip to work to "perform maintenance or repair"? I know that >is the excuse I use... >David ================= LOL Ed's "trip to work" is, I'm afraid, just that! About 50 feet, Ed? And.... it might include a trip. Anon From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 14 09:50:04 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:50:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> <43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905140850l4818bc1dh5f309d4a5c546a7e@mail.gmail.com> C'mon Larry, you know there aren't that many 55 year olds out in a patrol car. Google average age for law enforcement officers... its around 35. 55? That would be, what, about 5% of all cops/highway patrol? Now subdivide that number by motorheads that know anything about antiques... Maybe 2% to be generous? So the odds become 2 in 100 that the cop who sees you would even be interested in stopping you. Based on my experience, I've been stopped by more cops than that who just wanted to talk about my car or motorcycle! Let's face it. There are so many niggling little laws on the books that knowledge of them and therefore enforcement is becoming a huge problem for all law enforcement. You worked for law enforcement. Would YOU give a guy a ticket who was just out driving around in a bugeye or would you just warn him. Cops got better things to do..... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > It's the 55 year old cop that was a motorhead in his youth that you need > to worry about. > > The only downside to doing it legally with the Hobbyist plate is that it is > the butt-uglyist plate you ever saw. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu May 14 09:50:09 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 08:50:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] valve work with head on Message-ID: I can now say that it is definitely possible to add or replace valve stem seals without removing the head or rocker shaft. The soft nylon rope stuffed in the cylinder and then compressed tightly by rolling the car a bit in gear held the valve up nicely, and once the keepers are popped out, the springs could be removed from beneath the rocker arm by rolling the car back a bit to lower the valve. Popped on the seals, put the springs and cap back in place, nudged the car to bring the valve back up tight and used a big screwdriver to compress the springs and add the keepers. It took an hour. The ordered head gasket goes on the shelf for next time. Now its back to test-and-tune minus the blue cloud. Best, Glen From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 14 10:12:11 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:12:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SVRA This Weekend Message-ID: <402188520905140912h7d006013ud30e15e98f23c9a5@mail.gmail.com> Anyone else wandering over to Road America this weekend for the SVRA? I plan to drive the Bugeye up there Saturday morning to participate in the Windy City MOG autocross at the Motorplex. Light yellow with black stripe. David Lieb From pythias at pacifier.com Thu May 14 10:19:15 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:19:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> <43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <534030092.20090514091915@pacifier.com> Hello , >The only downside to doing it legally with the Hobbyist plate is that it is >the butt-uglyist plate you ever saw. In Washington State, the RULES are the same for "Classic" car plates and "Original" plates. With Original (they don't have to BE original. They just have to be from the issue year of the car to which they are attatched) you don't have to have TWO, just one on the rear. There are also Horseless Carriage plates. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu May 14 11:37:17 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car Message-ID: <296305.51082.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I will be there for Friday only, and I won't be showing my car. This is only my 2nd time going to this event and I plan to use the general parking lot and hoof it everywhere. Should I be concerned with leaving my 74 Midget in the general parking areas? See you on the show field. John Fogelsville, PA From nases at verizon.net Thu May 14 11:44:25 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:44:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car In-Reply-To: <296305.51082.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <296305.51082.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I will be there on Friday also assuming it's not raining an inch per hour. Frank will be there so the forecast is not good;) But for sure I'm taking rain gear. Not sure there's much security in the general parking lot. I see ATVs cruising by every so often but can't say for sure it's security or not. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On May 14, 2009, at 1:37 PM, fastvee wrote: > I will be there for Friday only, and I won't be showing my car. This > is only > my 2nd time going to this event and I plan to use the general > parking lot and > hoof it everywhere. Should I be concerned with leaving my 74 Midget > in the > general parking areas? > See you on the show field. > John > Fogelsville, PA From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Thu May 14 11:46:48 2009 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car Message-ID: <207431.15173.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Nooooo! Not if you leave a large mean dog chained to the steering wheel. --- On Thu, 5/14/09, fastvee wrote: From: fastvee Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 12:37 PM I will be there for Friday only, and I won't be showing my car. This is only my 2nd time going to this event and I plan to use the general parking lot and hoof it everywhere. Should I be concerned with leaving my 74 Midget in the general parking areas? See you on the show field. John Fogelsville, PA You are subscribed as redmidget72 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 14 11:46:40 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:46:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com><38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry><43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905140850l4818bc1dh5f309d4a5c546a7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That whistling sound you heard was the point of my message flying by. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "S pridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NY Plates C'mon Larry, you know there aren't that many 55 year olds out in a patrol car. Google average age for law enforcement officers... its around 35. 55? That would be, what, about 5% of all cops/highway patrol? Now subdivide that number by motorheads that know anything about antiques... Maybe 2% to be generous? So the odds become 2 in 100 that the cop who sees you would even be interested in stopping you. Based on my experience, I've been stopped by more cops than that who just wanted to talk about my car or motorcycle! Let's face it. There are so many niggling little laws on the books that knowledge of them and therefore enforcement is becoming a huge problem for all law enforcement. You worked for law enforcement. Would YOU give a guy a ticket who was just out driving around in a bugeye or would you just warn him. Cops got better things to do..... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > It's the 55 year old cop that was a motorhead in his youth that you need > to worry about. > > The only downside to doing it legally with the Hobbyist plate is that it > is > the butt-uglyist plate you ever saw. You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 14 12:03:45 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:03:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> <43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905140850l4818bc1dh5f309d4a5c546a7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905141103tc2dca11tc577db33b4a19283@mail.gmail.com> > That whistling sound you heard was the point of my message flying by. This is a safe zone, Larry. No pointed messages allowed. From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu May 14 12:06:27 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:06:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com><38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry><43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0905140850l4818bc1dh5f309d4a5c546a7e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5836CA56C8614CAF97291077DA014A7E@Dell9200> You guys are all paying way too much. Tennessee Antique Plate Registration is $25.00 for LIFE! You can display a tag that would have been in use at the time the car was built as long as you carry the issued Antique Plate with you in the vehicle and can show it to a LEO upon request. Use is restricted but unenforced but you can use your car for regular transportation on weekends. I have been displaying a British style plate on my car for about 10 years. I have had LEO's check my cars out many times and none ever ask about the British Plate. BTW, I had my issued TN Antique Plate numbers put on my British plate. If they were to ever run the tag it would show up in the system. I was a little concerned when we went to LOTO but I had no problems. Tennessee is very antique car friendly. Now I will get "nailed" next time out, if it ever quits raining! Mark Nashville From mikey at b2systems.com Thu May 14 12:06:25 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:06:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car In-Reply-To: <207431.15173.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <207431.15173.qm@web51909.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1242324385.6102.8.camel@WebBrowser> Really ? Wow, makes me glad I live in S. Calif. where I can leave any convertible with the top down anytime and not worry about it. Ok, I do worry in some parts of Los Angeles :) mike On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 10:46 -0700, Red Midget wrote: > Nooooo! Not if you leave a large mean dog chained to the steering wheel. > > > --- On Thu, 5/14/09, fastvee wrote: > > > From: fastvee > Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 12:37 PM > > > I will be there for Friday only, and I won't be showing my car. This is only > my 2nd time going to this event and I plan to use the general parking lot and > hoof it everywhere. Should I be concerned with leaving my 74 Midget in the > general parking areas? > See you on the show field. > John > Fogelsville, PA From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 14 12:10:53 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:10:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Hotel any workshops over the weekend like last year? In-Reply-To: <4A0A3355.1040800@comcast.net> References: <205cef430905120234v3b04b55dm5e43f5b58626d6a3@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A3355.1040800@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430905141110h3fb02dbbr191685d46ae30410@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Why are you leaving Saturday morning will it rain by then? Lin On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Frank wrote: > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> List, >> I know last year was special the 50th anniversary but will there be any >> workshops like last year at the Carlisle Hotel? Also now that I will be >> able >> to go on Saturday where are most of the list staying at? >> >> > > I am at the Motel 6 next to Hoss's just under the turnpike ramp. > I am only staying Friday night leaving Saturday unless I change my mind and > leave Sunday ;) > Depends on the rain, and as usual it's supposed to rain. > Call my cell when you are in Carlisle. > No major Sprite stuff this year but there are always workshops at the > Carlisle fairgrounds and they run a couple times a day. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 14 12:13:42 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:13:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Hotel any workshops over the weekend like last year? In-Reply-To: <4A0A3355.1040800@comcast.net> References: <205cef430905120234v3b04b55dm5e43f5b58626d6a3@mail.gmail.com> <4A0A3355.1040800@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430905141113x5680f682h7d1f079fab7213e8@mail.gmail.com> Sounds like all the cool people will be at Motel 6, see you all there : ) Lin On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Frank wrote: > Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> List, >> I know last year was special the 50th anniversary but will there be any >> workshops like last year at the Carlisle Hotel? Also now that I will be >> able >> to go on Saturday where are most of the list staying at? >> >> > > I am at the Motel 6 next to Hoss's just under the turnpike ramp. > I am only staying Friday night leaving Saturday unless I change my mind and > leave Sunday ;) > Depends on the rain, and as usual it's supposed to rain. > Call my cell when you are in Carlisle. > No major Sprite stuff this year but there are always workshops at the > Carlisle fairgrounds and they run a couple times a day. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu May 14 13:03:57 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:03:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shotgun Rack for Bugeye References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com><38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry><43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0905140850l4818bc1dh5f309d4a5c546a7e@mail.gmail.com> <5836CA56C8614CAF97291077DA014A7E@Dell9200> Message-ID: <7B5655F1AA354797A17E6707C178199A@Dell9200> More about Tennessee; It now looks like we will be able to carry a loaded shotgun and/or rifle in your vehicle along with a pistol in your pocket. Who makes a shotgun rack for a Bugeye? I wonder if I can find a 50 cal mount for a luggage rack? Mark Nashville From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu May 14 13:05:25 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car Message-ID: <174049.30529.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Phil. Will you have one of your cars on the show field? john --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Phil Nase wrote: From: Phil Nase Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car To: "fastvee" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 1:44 PM I will be there on Friday also assuming it's not raining an inch per hour. Frank will be there so the forecast is not good;) But for sure I'm taking rain gear. Not sure there's much security in the general parking lot. I see ATVs cruising by every so often but can't say for sure it's security or not. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu May 14 13:08:50 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:08:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] World News - Charles Gibson In-Reply-To: <20090514044345.2B0DA187655@autox.team.net> References: <7lku3e$65avst@email.mtu.edu> <20090514044345.2B0DA187655@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0905141208l1d81c0f3k9b357b94fd211792@mail.gmail.com> Here's the link to the video: http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=7581612 And a write up on AutoBlog: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/14/andrew-j-feustel-astronaut-hubble-mechanic -car-guy/ On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:43 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > Yea I saw it but it was a Sprite not an MG. They even showed the hood > emblem. > Crash > > > Just caught the World News with Gibson. The last story was about the > "Astronaut who is a mechanic." The story showed two cars in his > garage. One was an MG Midget - I'm quite sure! Have to wait a day or > two to watch web version. Anyone else see it? > > Tim Collins > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tr3.4.me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu May 14 13:05:59 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:05:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shotgun Rack for Bugeye In-Reply-To: <7B5655F1AA354797A17E6707C178199A@Dell9200> References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> <43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905140850l4818bc1dh5f309d4a5c546a7e@mail.gmail.com> <5836CA56C8614CAF97291077DA014A7E@Dell9200> <7B5655F1AA354797A17E6707C178199A@Dell9200> Message-ID: Put in a low rise roll bar, and mount it on that On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Mark wrote: > More about Tennessee; It now looks like we will be able to carry a loaded > shotgun and/or rifle in your vehicle along with a pistol in your pocket. > Who makes a shotgun rack for a Bugeye? I wonder if I can find a 50 cal > mount for a luggage rack? > > Mark > Nashville > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 14 13:21:17 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:21:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shotgun Rack for Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: <20090514064195.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <38F20F4C0CC54217826C430D75968E76@Larry> <43840a7e0905140708o3413ea2epd55db20b9f14baba@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905140850l4818bc1dh5f309d4a5c546a7e@mail.gmail.com> <5836CA56C8614CAF97291077DA014A7E@Dell9200> <7B5655F1AA354797A17E6707C178199A@Dell9200> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905141221i41701049rd86eb76982f2cab1@mail.gmail.com> You'll need an extra arm on that bar... If my recollection is correct Ma Deuce like a 3 point mount. Two points compromises accuracy.... Cheez, Mark... I saw prices on 100 round boxes of 50 cal belt ammo yesterday... Suggest you upgrade to an M60. Much cheaper and more available ammo! Is Tennessee really that lenient on fully automatic weapons? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Put in a low rise roll bar, and mount it on that > > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Mark wrote: > > > More about Tennessee; It now looks like we will be able to carry a > loaded > > shotgun and/or rifle in your vehicle along with a pistol in your pocket. > > Who makes a shotgun rack for a Bugeye? I wonder if I can find a 50 cal > > mount for a luggage rack? > > > > Mark > > Nashville > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From dwramsey at att.net Thu May 14 13:21:16 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:21:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Shotgun Rack for Bugeye In-Reply-To: <7B5655F1AA354797A17E6707C178199A@Dell9200> Message-ID: <20090514192119.7675F18788D@autox.team.net> No way, the luggage rack would never hold a MA DUCE. Now if you have a roll bar something could be worked out. Crash I wonder if I can find a 50 cal mount for a luggage rack? Mark Nashville From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu May 14 13:33:07 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:33:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Shotgun Rack for Bugeye In-Reply-To: <7B5655F1AA354797A17E6707C178199A@Dell9200> Message-ID: > Who makes a shotgun rack for a Bugeye? I'm sure you could easily fabricate a dual-purpose roll bar.....if that's really what you want, and if you don't mind picking bugs out of your teeth AND out of your gun. BZ From abcoz at hky.com Thu May 14 13:50:34 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:50:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car In-Reply-To: <296305.51082.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <296305.51082.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <94D35685F2E549E191DAC15EB749C85E@OwnerPC> John, I wouldn't be concerned at all. Since the organizers exiled the stoners/"tuner cars" to their own separate weekend (I understand they've now done away with them entirely, due to too many complaints from the local residents), the Import/kit car Carlisle event draws a pretty well behaved crowd. But, why not just put your Midget in the show for one day? Can't be too much more than general parking and admission, plus you'll be right in the center of everything. No, not me. I was gonna drive the Midget out, today, but decided to just wait until tomorrow and ride out with my oldest son, in his truck. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "fastvee" To: Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car >I will be there for Friday only, and I won't be showing my car. This is >only > my 2nd time going to this event and I plan to use the general parking lot > and > hoof it everywhere. Should I be concerned with leaving my 74 Midget in the > general parking areas? > See you on the show field. > John > Fogelsville, PA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as abcoz at hky.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu May 14 13:58:23 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car Message-ID: <681770.54659.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Bud, Last year, being my first time, I wasn't pre-registered and stood in line for quite a while. I am trying to avoid that again, and don't mind the walking. Hopefully we all gather at the Brit show field at the same time. John --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Bud Osbourne wrote: From: Bud Osbourne Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car To: "fastvee" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 3:50 PM John, I wouldn't be concerned at all. Since the organizers exiled the stoners/"tuner cars" to their own separate weekend (I understand they've now done away with them entirely, due to too many complaints from the local residents), the Import/kit car Carlisle event draws a pretty well behaved crowd. But, why not just put your Midget in the show for one day? Can't be too much more than general parking and admission, plus you'll be right in the center of everything. No, not me. I was gonna drive the Midget out, today, but decided to just wait until tomorrow and ride out with my oldest son, in his truck. Bud Osbourne From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 14 14:02:25 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:02:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shotgun Rack for Bugeye In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905141221i41701049rd86eb76982f2cab1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Of COURSE they are !! They have been IGNORING "The Revenuers" for DECADES !!!! LOL From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 14 14:04:54 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:04:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <5836CA56C8614CAF97291077DA014A7E@Dell9200> Message-ID: <> Yep Mark, as sure as God made little green apples !!!!!! Make sure you have Bond Card with !!! LOL !! From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 14 14:12:44 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:12:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <402188520905140727w6324a83ckf5ab3da0994cf9b2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <<...fire up Hortense to cross the driveway>> Now David YOU know I have to WALK to the shop just to GET to her!!! <> Closer to 85 feet PPP and sans 'trip' 'cause I DON'T !!! Never did get into the Timothy Leary 'schne' !!!!! But HOW do YOU know about 'tripping' ??? Enquiring minds NEED to 'know' !!!!! From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu May 14 14:19:01 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:19:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates References: Message-ID: Probably meant a Budweiser inspired "trip" rather than a "windowpane" or "sunshine" trip. > < And.... it might include a trip.>> > > Closer to 85 feet PPP and sans 'trip' 'cause > I DON'T !!! Never did get into the Timothy > Leary 'schne' !!!!! But HOW do YOU > know about 'tripping' ??? > > Enquiring minds NEED to 'know' !!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 14 14:31:40 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:31:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: <8899F54E1DFB4B2AB57A0FC0E84F7880@rwa> Message-ID: <<$288 per year is NOT quite trifling to me. >> IVE Violation Citation = $75.00 Flatbed towing..... at .=$125.00 Lose of 'cheap' plate=$ 24.00 NEW Std. plates.....=$ 78.00 Re-rated Insur.......=$ 50.00@ ........................------- Sub-total.............=$252.00 Time OFF work because of getting stopped/cited??? Time OFF work to take care of getting new plates??? Me thinks the "Time OFFs" add up to a LOT more then $36.00 'difference', David!! I would HOPE (using a FULL 8 hour work day to DO the "Time OFFs" fer example) your hourly pay is MORE then $ 4.50 per hour !?!?!?!?!? <> Sounds like a VERY good idea!?!?!? Let me add (for our readers) that the areas David & I live in is part of "The Seven Collar Counties" which DOES have the LARGEST contingent of S.O.S. POLICE Officers (so odds ARE against NOT being stopped)!!! Ed From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 14 14:28:18 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:28:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NY Plates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520905141328t60dfa3b8i7af5b138d86f9f98@mail.gmail.com> > Probably meant a Budweiser inspired "trip" rather than a "windowpane" or > "sunshine" trip. None of that Clydesdale pi$$ for ED, nothing but Miller Lite's finest. From abcoz at hky.com Thu May 14 15:04:53 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 17:04:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car In-Reply-To: <681770.54659.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <681770.54659.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ahh. I understand, completely, about the standing in line thing. I was gonna pre-register the Midget, and be there from Thursday thru Sunday, figuring I'd be saving money by entering the car show, rather than paying general admission & parking for four days. However, I decided to hold off on pre-registering, just in case I decided to take the truck, instead. Well, I decided that since I wasn't trying to sell anything, and really didn't need to buy anything (although I ALWAYS find several things I just can't live without...), there was really no sense in spending hotel, food and beer money for today. So, I just stayed home and got some work done in the office and mowed some of the lawn this afternoon. Two nights lodging, food & beer costs significantly less than three ;) I'll wear my Holy Sprite T shirt, weather permitting, on Friday, and try to get over to the show field a couple of times on Friday & Saturday. Hope to be able to put some faces to some names! Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "fastvee" To: Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car > Hi Bud, > Last year, being my first time, I wasn't pre-registered and stood in line > for > quite a while. I am trying to avoid that again, and don't mind the > walking. > Hopefully we all gather at the Brit show field at the same time. > John From pythias at pacifier.com Thu May 14 16:18:27 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:18:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-YVR Message-ID: <544257666.20090514151827@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Heading out tomorrow morning for the annual trip to Canada. I expect to see several listers, some of them first time participants. Anyone else, mine has a SPRIDGETS sticker on the windshield and a 50th LotO badge in the grill. Oh yeah, most likely the one SWA with a Hardtop.. See ya there! (except those guys getting rained on at Carlisle, whatever THAT is! ? ) -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "I decide which car to purchase after looking at the pictures," said Tom autobiographically. From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu May 14 16:27:38 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:27:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss's Engine Paint In-Reply-To: <1DD78BCFF7C54295BF506AE31DA3B5F2@blackbox2> References: <1DD78BCFF7C54295BF506AE31DA3B5F2@blackbox2> Message-ID: You're right Dean, NOT even close, the can I got was a light metallic green. Nowhere near "olive" Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > From: dlh2001 at comcast.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 22:01:04 -0400 > Subject: [Spridgets] Moss's Engine Paint > > Is it just me, or is Moss's engine paint NOT the correct olive green color that we all know and love? > _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd1_052009 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu May 14 16:32:31 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:32:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] new one for me In-Reply-To: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50547.72.64.2.64.1242179580.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: Make sure you check the belt tightness too. New battery, stalled, lights worked, not enough juice to restart. Battery voltage was a bit but 12 volts. I thought my genny was no good, not getting enough output. Belt was a hair too loose, felt tight by pushing down on it, but could turn the waterpump fan by hand. Tightened it up and all is much better. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 21:53:00 -0400 > From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] new one for me > > Tonight I was driving my 66 Sprite and switched on the headlights which > caused the engine to sputter and spit and almost stall, like it was out of > gas. When I shut off the lights, everything was fine, ran smooth. never > happened before. Where do I start? > Dick in NH > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Storage1_052009 From nases at verizon.net Thu May 14 16:50:16 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:50:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-YVR & Carlisle update In-Reply-To: <544257666.20090514151827@pacifier.com> References: <544257666.20090514151827@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <06F2AD10-ACF4-4F4A-A24F-81A9AB592882@verizon.net> Hey, I just checked the NOAA weather. Friday in Carlisle PA is sunny and mid 70s. Saturday & Sunday not so much. Time to call in sick and get to Carlisle early Friday. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On May 14, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Spridgets, > > Heading out tomorrow morning for the annual trip to Canada. I > expect to see several listers, some of them first time > participants. Anyone else, mine has a SPRIDGETS sticker on the > windshield and a 50th LotO badge in the grill. Oh yeah, most > likely the one SWA with a Hardtop.. > > See ya there! (except those guys getting rained on at Carlisle, > whatever THAT is! ? ) > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > "I decide which car to purchase after looking at the pictures," > said Tom autobiographically. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nases at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu May 14 16:56:48 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 15:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum Message-ID: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hope to get to know you all.... I have a 78 Midget in the process of rebuilding. Always in need of advice, opinions, and technical expertise. Ed From spritenut at comcast.net Thu May 14 17:05:25 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:05:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import/Kit Car In-Reply-To: References: <681770.54659.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A0CA3B5.7000603@comcast.net> Bud Osbourne wrote: > > I'll wear my Holy Sprite T shirt, weather permitting, on Friday, I guess I wear my Holy Sprite tee shirt Friday too. I have packed up the Sprite, top, side curtains, umbrella, but if it's pouring in the morning, I'll take my truck too. I can bring home more parts that way ;) I'll be there Fri & Sat with a blue Speedwell Sprite in the field (weather permitting) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From abcoz at hky.com Thu May 14 17:02:06 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:02:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-YVR & Carlisle update In-Reply-To: <06F2AD10-ACF4-4F4A-A24F-81A9AB592882@verizon.net> References: <544257666.20090514151827@pacifier.com> <06F2AD10-ACF4-4F4A-A24F-81A9AB592882@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4ECB44C8C124432996A2350EAB46D576@OwnerPC> Yeah, I just checked with a couple of my Triumph Club buddies, who got there this morning, and they said it was kinda wet, but supposed to be better tomorrow. They also told me that all of the Spridget parts are gone, because they were being given away...... They also told me there were no MGB parts to be found, anywhere and that they had just about talked some guy into buying my 356 (which isn't actually for sale........hmmmm). They were also pretty well into their beer stash by that time of the afternoon, too ;) I'm STOKED! Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Nase" To: "Bill L" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ABFM-YVR & Carlisle update > Hey, I just checked the NOAA weather. Friday in Carlisle PA is sunny and > mid 70s. Saturday & Sunday not so much. > Time to call in sick and get to Carlisle early Friday. > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu May 14 17:12:56 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:12:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss's Engine Paint In-Reply-To: References: <1DD78BCFF7C54295BF506AE31DA3B5F2@blackbox2> <4A0B7D6B.6080108@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A0CA578.4020302@comcast.net> Dean Hedin wrote: > It's ridiculous. Why does Moss even bother selling it? Why do they bother selling any of the crap they sell? It's all junk and has been since the 80s. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Thu May 14 17:27:23 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:27:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A0CA8DB.8040909@comcast.net> Edward Perez wrote: > Hope to get to know you all.... I have a 78 Midget in the process of rebuilding. Always in need of advice, opinions, and technical expertise. > > Welcome to the best car list in the world. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu May 14 17:24:47 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 18:24:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Welcome Ed You do need to put some more words in you sig, "Ed" just might be confusing and get you banned! :) What part of the country/world are you in? Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum Hope to get to know you all.... I have a 78 Midget in the process of rebuilding. Always in need of advice, opinions, and technical expertise. Ed You are subscribed as mark at nashvilletn.org http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu May 14 19:04:06 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:04:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Message-ID: <4A0CBF86.7030508@comcast.net> I just had a change of mind. I will be driving out in the 67 Sprite, it has a top and roll up windows AND a boot, more room for parts :) The Bugeye with all the weather gear has no room for all the parts I *might* buy. That and my son decided to ride out with me means 2 duffle bags. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu May 14 20:33:59 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:33:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss's Engine Paint In-Reply-To: <4A0CA578.4020302@comcast.net> Message-ID: Did you use 220-580 ENGINE PAINT, correct olive green (spray can)? They have several greens. I prefer black engines, so it isn9t an issue for me. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu May 14 20:52:42 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:52:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear In-Reply-To: References: <4A0CA578.4020302@comcast.net> Message-ID: I'm working down my list... Well, I know my speedometer works down through the cable that reaches the transmission (rib case) via cordless drill... Upon disassembly, I find that the plastic gear slips on the metal shaft. Any way to refresh this? Chris From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu May 14 20:57:57 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 21:57:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] AC fuel pump In-Reply-To: References: <4A0CA578.4020302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <90FDA58C0BE94BA8A6A87866DAAFD459@BASEMENTDELL> Finally got to replacing mine with something newer...someone last year expressed interest in it when I was done with it. Works I guess, new replacement works better. Miss the tick but I'll get over it. Doesn't leak at least. Yours for shipping, contact me offline. Chris From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu May 14 20:58:46 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 19:58:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum Message-ID: <103096.21016.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In the last almost two years (wow, is time flying by!) since I joined the list, it has provided me with many opinions, chuckles, bits of advice, words of wisdom, parts, and my current LBC. Best of all, I have made lots of new friends. Welcome. What part of the world are you hailing us from? David Booker '71 Midget Long Island --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Edward Perez wrote: From: Edward Perez Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 5:56 PM Hope to get to know you all.... I have a 78 Midget in the process of rebuilding. Always in need of advice, opinions, and technical expertise. Ed You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From na7db at yahoo.com Thu May 14 21:06:31 2009 From: na7db at yahoo.com (brown dan) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear Message-ID: <168953.49183.qm@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I could use some help on this as well. I replaced that pinion gear (moss) just a couple a months ago and it lasted only about 500 miles. Now sometimes it will work for a few miles and then konk out again. My daughter loves that 72 Midget and I have to ask permission to borrow it back. But she needs the Speedo to know how fast she is going. Dan --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Chris Manuel wrote: From: Chris Manuel Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear To: "'Spridgets'" Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 7:52 PM I'm working down my list... Well, I know my speedometer works down through the cable that reaches the transmission (rib case) via cordless drill... Upon disassembly, I find that the plastic gear slips on the metal shaft. Any way to refresh this? Chris You are subscribed as na7db at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu May 14 21:25:18 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:25:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear In-Reply-To: <002001c9d50b$d5f30580$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <168953.49183.qm@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <002001c9d50b$d5f30580$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: Not to bogart someone else's response, but I do know that the nylon gear (or whatever it is) does not grip on the knurled pinion shaft on mine. Just wondering what others have done before spending $ for a new one, if thats possible. Chris -----Original Message----- From: Paul Asgeirsson [mailto:PAsgeirsson at att.net] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:19 PM To: brown dan; 'Spridgets'; Chris Manuel Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear Hi Dan. Might be the gear slipping, but I would also look at the ends of the cable to see if the squared ends are still square and long enough. If they aren't get a new cable. They aren't at all expensive. Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "brown dan" To: "'Spridgets'" ; "Chris Manuel" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear > I could use some help on this as well. I replaced that pinion gear (moss) > just a couple a months ago and it lasted only about 500 miles. Now sometimes > it will work for a few miles and then konk out again. My daughter loves that > 72 Midget and I have to ask permission to borrow it back. But she needs the > Speedo to know how fast she is going. > > Dan > > --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Chris Manuel wrote: > > > From: Chris Manuel > Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear > To: "'Spridgets'" > Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 7:52 PM > > > I'm working down my list... > > Well, I know my speedometer works down through the cable that reaches the > transmission (rib case) via cordless drill... > > Upon disassembly, I find that the plastic gear slips on the metal shaft. > Any way to refresh this? From conan at intrex.net Thu May 14 21:31:32 2009 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:31:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum Message-ID: <200905142331.AA214958326@intrex.net> Welcome Ed! You'll get plenty of all three here. ...plus a whole lot more. ;-) Hey Ed! Say Hi to Ed. the other Ed (in NC) From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu May 14 21:44:26 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 20:44:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <103096.21016.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <103096.21016.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <986283.55804.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> the soggy NW, Seattle area ________________________________ From: David Booker To: Spridgets at autox.team.net; Edward Perez Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:58:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum In the last almost two years (wow, is time flying by!) since I joined the list, it has provided me with many opinions, chuckles, bits of advice, words of wisdom, parts, and my current LBC. Best of all, I have made lots of new friends. Welcome. What part of the world are you hailing us from? David Booker '71 Midget Long Island --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Edward Perez wrote: From: Edward Perez Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 5:56 PM Hope to get to know you all.... I have a 78 Midget in the process of rebuilding. Always in need of advice, opinions, and technical expertise. Ed You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu May 14 21:51:08 2009 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:51:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear In-Reply-To: References: <4A0CA578.4020302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200905150351.n4F3pFnI003018@mail.usimperio.com> Piece of cake, just pull engine and tranny, then tear the tranny apart and tighten the nut at the end of the main shaft, the gear is slipping on the main shaft. It's a dumb setup with a pinched gear to drive the pinion gear. Reassemble in reverse order. Should take a day or two to accomplish, three days if you decide to detail the engine bay while the engine and tranny are out. Dave At 10:52 PM 5/14/2009, you wrote: >I'm working down my list... > >Well, I know my speedometer works down through the cable that reaches the >transmission (rib case) via cordless drill... > >Upon disassembly, I find that the plastic gear slips on the metal shaft. >Any way to refresh this? > >Chris From smarc at smarc.net Thu May 14 22:03:29 2009 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 00:03:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: References: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A025ECF.9010601@smarc.net> <4A089779.5020901@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4A0CE991.9070506@smarc.net> My son & I pulled the engine & trans, swapped in the new clutch kit, and reinstalled the engine Wednesday night.. Total time 2 hours, however that was just bolting the engine back in, no plumbing, etc. Spent a couple leisurely hours tonight taking care of the rest of the details. Realized I don't have any 20W50 oil to fill the transmission, so prob tomorrow night will be the test... robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > My apologies in advance ... > > > > If they do show up for sale is it still a 'free pedal'? ;) > > > > > > >> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:24:09 -0400 >> From: smarc at smarc.net >> >> If you start seeing lots of '73 midget bits appearing for sale in >> the usual places, you can pretty well bet I got sick of screwing around >> with it... >> >> >> >> Marc wrote: >> The 'free pedal' concept makes sense to me. >> > __ From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu May 14 22:17:38 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:17:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SVRA This Weekend In-Reply-To: <402188520905140912h7d006013ud30e15e98f23c9a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520905140912h7d006013ud30e15e98f23c9a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0CECE2.7030107@wi.net> Good luck David! I'll be there Sunday (Sat. my daughter graduates from UWGB) with my Morgan driving buddy to watch the Peter Morgan Memorial Race. Yup, I belong to the Windy City Mog group too...now if I could only find a 66 or 67 +4....... Dave W. David Lieb wrote: > Anyone else wandering over to Road America this weekend for the SVRA? > I plan to drive the Bugeye up there Saturday morning to participate in > the Windy City MOG autocross at the Motorplex. Light yellow with black > stripe. > David Lieb From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu May 14 22:32:45 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:32:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> Welcome Edward! (I use your full first name to differentiate from the other Ed's on the list) As Frank and others have said, this is an awesome list and and we bicker and console and laugh and cry and actually get some car stuff done. And your not too far from Paul A. if you need immediate assistance. We're like a big family! Welcome to the family! Dave W. (one of many Davids) Burlington WI 59 :{) Edward Perez wrote: > Hope to get to know you all.... I have a 78 Midget in the process of rebuilding. Always in need of advice, opinions, and technical expertise. > > Ed From bkitterer at me.com Thu May 14 23:24:07 2009 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 22:24:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5C507DB7-82B4-46E4-B152-9A2A18F16470@me.com> Edward, Welcome to the list with the greatest people with the most car knowledge filled with lots of ribbing. Oh an hello Ed and Ed and Ed. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On May 14, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > Hope to get to know you all.... I have a 78 Midget in the process of > rebuilding. Always in need of advice, opinions, and technical > expertise. > > Ed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri May 15 06:23:50 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 05:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> Message-ID: <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Paul A is a very popular guy. I'm meeting with him and a bunch of other guys to wrench on our cars on the 30th. Definitely a family feel to this whole thing..... Edward ________________________________ From: David Woerpel To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 9:32:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum Welcome Edward! (I use your full first name to differentiate from the other Ed's on the list) As Frank and others have said, this is an awesome list and and we bicker and console and laugh and cry and actually get some car stuff done. And your not too far from Paul A. if you need immediate assistance. We're like a big family! Welcome to the family! Dave W. (one of many Davids) Burlington WI 59 :{) Edward Perez wrote: > Hope to get to know you all.... I have a 78 Midget in the process of rebuilding. Always in need of advice, opinions, and technical expertise. > > Ed You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri May 15 06:26:58 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 05:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <003601c9d511$18d45a20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <103096.21016.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <986283.55804.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <003601c9d511$18d45a20$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <294362.80392.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just no getting away from you, is there! I'll be seeing you on the 30th. I'll bring my adapter plate. Maybe you can identify it and let me know what gasket sets I need to re-install. See you then. Edward I'm actually in the Snohomish area, 45 mins north..... Seattle is a good reference point. ________________________________ From: Paul Asgeirsson To: Edward Perez ; David Booker ; Spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:56:15 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum Ahhhh! Think we should initiate Ed at the upcoming OSHIT gathering weekend of the 30th? Seattle is REALLY close to Everett! Just a welcoming thought! Later, Paul A ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "David Booker" ; Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum > the soggy NW, Seattle area > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: David Booker > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net; Edward Perez > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 7:58:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum > > > In the last almost two years (wow, is time flying by!) since I joined the list, it has provided me with many opinions, chuckles, bits of advice, words of wisdom, parts, and my current LBC. Best of all, I have made lots of new friends. Welcome. What part of the world are you hailing us from? > > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > > --- On Thu, 5/14/09, Edward Perez wrote: > > > From: Edward Perez > Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, May 14, 2009, 5:56 PM > > > Hope to get to know you all.... I have a 78 Midget in the process of rebuilding. Always in need of advice, opinions, and technical expertise. > > Ed > You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pasgeirsson at worldnet.att.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Fri May 15 07:42:45 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 06:42:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1677126983.20090515064245@pacifier.com> Hello Edward, EDWARD is such a better way for you to sign. You haven't started the love/hate thing yet that we all have for "Ed" and you sure don't want to be caught in the crossfire. .. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" We all like praise, but a hike in our pay is the best way. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri May 15 07:46:00 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:46:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <1677126983.20090515064245@pacifier.com> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1677126983.20090515064245@pacifier.com> Message-ID: If you watch the cialis commercials, you KNOW what ED stands for.... LOL On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Edward, > > EDWARD is such a better way for you to sign. You haven't started > the love/hate thing yet that we all have for "Ed" and you sure > don't want to be caught in the crossfire. .. > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > We all like praise, but a hike in our pay is the best way. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri May 15 08:12:11 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:12:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Measurement Needed Message-ID: <319A195D05604040B9CC1A6DC69427B9@Dell9200> Guys, I need the measurement of the post on bonnet (hood) catch release the MK II Sprite and MK I MG and up. I don't have one here to look at, it is the same hood catch release used on the MGB per the moss part numbers (406-015). I need the diameter of the post that the release cable attaches. As I recall from memory it is about 3/8 diameter. Thanks, Mark Nashville From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri May 15 08:27:29 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:27:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net><558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1677126983.20090515064245@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Remember when Bill says "love/hate", he's only half right. > Hello Edward, > > EDWARD is such a better way for you to sign. You haven't started > the love/hate thing yet that we all have for "Ed" and you sure > don't want to be caught in the crossfire. .. > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri May 15 08:36:59 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 07:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1677126983.20090515064245@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <837690.24286.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yeah, I just can't win with the name Ed... Mr. Ed Special Ed ED It never ends. Plus, since Twilight came out, my wife loves to call me Edward now..... it's a good thing! ________________________________ From: Brad Fornal To: Bill L Cc: Edward Perez ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:46:00 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum If you watch the cialis commercials, you KNOW what ED stands for.... LOL On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Bill L wrote: Hello Edward, EDWARD is such a better way for you to sign. You haven't started the love/hate thing yet that we all have for "Ed" and you sure don't want to be caught in the crossfire. .. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" We all like praise, but a hike in our pay is the best way. You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri May 15 09:21:37 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 10:21:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1677126983.20090515064245@pacifier.com> <837690.24286.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "Brad Fornal" ; "Bill L" Cc: Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum Yeah, I just can't win with the name Ed... Mr. Ed Special Ed ED It never ends. Plus, since Twilight came out, my wife loves to call me Edward now..... it's a good thing! ==================== When you say Mr. Ed, you are talking of a horse who's remarkable feature is at the other end. From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri May 15 09:23:53 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 08:23:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net><558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1677126983.20090515064245@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4A0D8909.7060607@frontiernet.net> Oh, come on now. Everybody knows Mr. Ed is sweet. You just have to learn to appreciate his finer quality. I sure he has one - somewhere. The one and only Kate Glen Byrns wrote: > Remember when Bill says "love/hate", he's only half right. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri May 15 10:28:41 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:28:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5E34B62B-EEF0-42E3-82AB-BAEDB65BE0A2@comcast.net> Hi Ed, I'm the guy the family has chained to steel post in the attic.. oh, like you don't have one.. ;-) Lester Shreveport, LA Mainly a SAAB guy but with a '59 Bugeye and less than 24 hours from a '66 Jag-U-ar XKE Coupe.. On May 15, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > Paul A is a very popular guy. I'm meeting with him and a bunch of > other guys to wrench on our cars on the 30th. Definitely a family > feel to this whole thing..... > > Edward From bpazur at excel.net Fri May 15 10:32:17 2009 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:32:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paging Mr. David Lieb Message-ID: <200905151632.n4FGWIAk011250@green.excel.net> David - Could you contact me off-list? I have a small favor to ask of you. Thanks. Bud Pazur bpazur at excel.net From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 15 10:34:56 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:34:56 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum Message-ID: Maybe the other Ed can be the real Ed to go with the real Larry? In a message dated 15/05/2009 00:32:22 GMT Daylight Time, mark at nashvilletn.org writes: Welcome Ed You do need to put some more words in you sig, "Ed" just might be confusing and get you banned! :) What part of the country/world are you in? Mark Nashville From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 15 10:56:58 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 09:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum Message-ID: <167618.18860.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 5/15/09, Bill L wrote: > the love/hate thing yet that we all have for "Ed" Bill, You're half right. Anon From doug_altman at yahoo.com Fri May 15 12:09:29 2009 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear In-Reply-To: References: <4A0CA578.4020302@comcast.net> Message-ID: <768969.74276.qm@web63504.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Chris - I had the problem that the internal end of the speedo gear was worn oversize and the square end of the cable was slipping when assembled into the gear thus not being driven by the gear. Ergo no, or intermittant, speedometer function. Though I dislike cobbling, I cut a couple strips of tin and soldered them to adjacent sides of the square end of the cable. It fit more snuggly in the gear and has worked for five years now. If this is your problem, you might try this. Doug Altman ....o~'o ________________________________ From: Chris Manuel To: Spridgets Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:52:42 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Speedometer cable pinion gear I'm working down my list... Well, I know my speedometer works down through the cable that reaches the transmission (rib case) via cordless drill... Upon disassembly, I find that the plastic gear slips on the metal shaft. Any way to refresh this? Chris _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as doug_altman at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Fri May 15 12:09:48 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A0DAFEC.40208@sbcglobal.net> Welcome to the list Edward! Glad to see another rubber bumper guy on the list! There are a few of us on here and happy to help you sort things out as the restoration comes along. Hell, even the A-series kids are a pretty nice lot (there are exceptions :)) and have a wealth of knowledge to share. Tell us what you're working on. Lee in St. Louis 1979 Midget From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri May 15 12:13:18 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <5E34B62B-EEF0-42E3-82AB-BAEDB65BE0A2@comcast.net> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5E34B62B-EEF0-42E3-82AB-BAEDB65BE0A2@comcast.net> Message-ID: <11863.77078.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I thought that was "Uncle Fester" ??? Cc: "Spridgets Net Spridgets at autox.team." Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:28:41 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum Hi Ed, I'm the guy the family has chained to steel post in the attic.. oh, like you don't have one.. ;-) Lester Shreveport, LA Mainly a SAAB guy but with a '59 Bugeye and less than 24 hours from a '66 Jag-U-ar XKE Coupe.. On May 15, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > Paul A is a very popular guy. I'm meeting with him and a bunch of other guys to wrench on our cars on the 30th. Definitely a family feel to this whole thing..... > > Edward You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri May 15 12:20:04 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 13:20:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <11863.77078.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5E34B62B-EEF0-42E3-82AB-BAEDB65BE0A2@comcast.net> <11863.77078.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <315D0E84-D580-4C41-B5AC-D88D31161B69@comcast.net> Ya know, ya light up ONE lightbulb in your mouth and NO ONE ever forgets it! ;-) Lester On May 15, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > I thought that was "Uncle Fester" ??? > > From: Lester > Cc: "Spridgets Net Spridgets at autox.team." > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:28:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum > > Hi Ed, > > I'm the guy the family has chained to steel post in the attic.. oh, > like you don't have one.. ;-) > > Lester > Shreveport, LA > Mainly a SAAB guy but with a '59 Bugeye and less than 24 hours from > a '66 Jag-U-ar XKE Coupe.. > > > On May 15, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > > > Paul A is a very popular guy. I'm meeting with him and a bunch of > other guys to wrench on our cars on the 30th. Definitely a family > feel to this whole thing..... > > > > Edward > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri May 15 12:36:13 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 11:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <315D0E84-D580-4C41-B5AC-D88D31161B69@comcast.net> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5E34B62B-EEF0-42E3-82AB-BAEDB65BE0A2@comcast.net> <11863.77078.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <315D0E84-D580-4C41-B5AC-D88D31161B69@comcast.net> Message-ID: <302914.98826.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Now that I feel like part of the family, here's the car.... Need to evaluate my 1275 engine with the OSHIT team. It and the Datsun 210 tranny are out of the car right now. It's a 4-speed, looking for a 5-speed, but not a priority. $hort on funds. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/ Cc: "Spridgets Net " Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:20:04 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum Ya know, ya light up ONE lightbulb in your mouth and NO ONE ever forgets it! ;-) Lester On May 15, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > I thought that was "Uncle Fester" ??? > > From: Lester > Cc: "Spridgets Net Spridgets at autox.team." > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:28:41 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum > > Hi Ed, > > I'm the guy the family has chained to steel post in the attic.. oh, > like you don't have one.. ;-) > > Lester > Shreveport, LA > Mainly a SAAB guy but with a '59 Bugeye and less than 24 hours from > a '66 Jag-U-ar XKE Coupe.. > > > On May 15, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > > > Paul A is a very popular guy. I'm meeting with him and a bunch of > other guys to wrench on our cars on the 30th. Definitely a family > feel to this whole thing..... > > > > Edward > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri May 15 13:02:32 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:02:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <315D0E84-D580-4C41-B5AC-D88D31161B69@comcast.net> References: <670908.50473.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0CF06D.3060406@wi.net> <558994.52578.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5E34B62B-EEF0-42E3-82AB-BAEDB65BE0A2@comcast.net> <11863.77078.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <315D0E84-D580-4C41-B5AC-D88D31161B69@comcast.net> Message-ID: There ARE worse places to be lighting up a light bulb from..... I HAVE NOT tried it, I'm just sayin'... Brad On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Lester wrote: > Ya know, ya light up ONE lightbulb in your mouth and NO ONE ever > forgets it! ;-) > > Lester > > > On May 15, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > > > I thought that was "Uncle Fester" ??? > > > > From: Lester > > Cc: "Spridgets Net Spridgets at autox.team." > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 9:28:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > I'm the guy the family has chained to steel post in the attic.. oh, > > like you don't have one.. ;-) > > > > Lester > > Shreveport, LA > > Mainly a SAAB guy but with a '59 Bugeye and less than 24 hours from > > a '66 Jag-U-ar XKE Coupe.. > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri May 15 13:09:34 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:09:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Bow Measurement Message-ID: You guys with Bugeyes, can you take a measurement for me? Measure the distance from the front to the rear top bow with the bows extended. I have a top that I bought from Little British Car Company a while ago and the "pocket corners" sewn into the top for the front bow is not in the right place or I have something going on with my top bows. Supposedly this top was made in England (not China), so it should be right. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri May 15 13:59:43 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:59:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Message-ID: <37dc82d40905151259o519e67fegfc842f9c4bfccd7c@mail.gmail.com> Chris, When I changed out the smooooth case for a rib case. . I lost functionality of the speedometer. Probably the end is not long enough for the rib case. But like yours. . it also works with an electric drill. So I took the vari speed cordless drill and wired it up to the tach. I taped the drill onto the bottom of the car with duct tape. I then calibrated it so that the drill will run at the correct RPM to give me an accurate speed indication. Prior to that I would keep the drill hooked up to the cable inside the car and use my finger on the trigger to turn it at the correct RPM while looking at the tach which works. I must have put a couple thousand miles on the car with my hand on the drill so that I could see the speedometer working. Then I got the idea to duct tape the drill to the bottom of the car and run the leads to the tach so that it works by itself. These, among other things, are some of the genius methods I have used to work around little problems with my 59 Frog Aye. And somebody is going to read this and think that I am actually telling the truth! Kirk 59 Frog ! From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Fri May 15 13:59:43 2009 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:59:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Bow Measurement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090515195944.AAE0D621DC1@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Mike; On the center line of the car 12 1/8 inch. Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer @dslextreme.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:10 PM To: Spridget Subject: [Spridgets] Top Bow Measurement You guys with Bugeyes, can you take a measurement for me? Measure the distance from the front to the rear top bow with the bows extended. I have a top that I bought from Little British Car Company a while ago and the "pocket corners" sewn into the top for the front bow is not in the right place or I have something going on with my top bows. Supposedly this top was made in England (not China), so it should be right. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 You are subscribed as hgmiller3 at qwest.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 15 15:33:21 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:33:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <167618.18860.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <167618.18860.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What? You mean he should have written 'ED', not 'Ed'? ;) -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave --- On Fri, 5/15/09, Bill L wrote: > the love/hate thing yet that we all have for "Ed" Bill, You're half right. Anon From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri May 15 15:57:32 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 14:57:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Bow Measurement In-Reply-To: <20090515195944.AAE0D621DC1@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> References: <20090515195944.AAE0D621DC1@mpls-qmqp-03.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: O.K., that sounds about right then. I get 12 1/2 inch when I measure mine. That means my top was cut wrong. Thanks. Mike On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Herbert Miller wrote: > Mike; > On the center line of the car 12 1/8 inch. > > Herb Miller > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer > @dslextreme.com > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:10 PM > To: Spridget > Subject: [Spridgets] Top Bow Measurement > > You guys with Bugeyes, can you take a measurement for me? Measure the > distance from the front to the rear top bow with the bows extended. I have > a top that I bought from Little British Car Company a while ago and the > "pocket corners" sewn into the top for the front bow is not in the right > place or I have something going on with my top bows. Supposedly this top > was made in England (not China), so it should be right. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hgmiller3 at qwest.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri May 15 16:09:48 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 17:09:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: References: <167618.18860.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6DEE6BAD3F1A4AC5ADA040B86F427703@BASEMENTDELL> This is getting like the cartoon ED Edd and Eddy... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:33 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum What? You mean he should have written 'ED', not 'Ed'? ;) -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave --- On Fri, 5/15/09, Bill L wrote: > the love/hate thing yet that we all have for "Ed" Bill, You're half right. Anon _______________________________________________ From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri May 15 16:59:50 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 15:59:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905151259o519e67fegfc842f9c4bfccd7c@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905151259o519e67fegfc842f9c4bfccd7c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Just a dumb question- Have you oiled your speedo cable? It really helps to keep it turning. I oil mine with some 30 weight or whatever I have in the garage at the minute. Pull the cable out of the sheath, add oil, reinsert cable. It will be good for about 2 or 3 years before needing oil again. Bill > Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 12:59:43 -0700 > From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com > To: cmanuel at wi.rr.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable > > Chris, > > When I changed out the smooooth case for a rib case. . I lost functionality > of the speedometer. > > Probably the end is not long enough for the rib case. > > But like yours. . it also works with an electric drill. > > So I took the vari speed cordless drill and wired it up to the tach. I > taped the drill onto the bottom of the car with duct tape. I then > calibrated it so that the drill will run at the correct RPM to give me an > accurate speed indication. > > Prior to that I would keep the drill hooked up to the cable inside the car > and use my finger on the trigger to turn it at the correct RPM while looking > at the tach which works. > > I must have put a couple thousand miles on the car with my hand on the drill > so that I could see the speedometer working. Then I got the idea to duct > tape the drill to the bottom of the car and run the leads to the tach so > that it works by itself. > > These, among other things, are some of the genius methods I have used to > work around little problems with my 59 Frog Aye. > > And somebody is going to read this and think that I am actually telling the > truth! > > Kirk > 59 Frog ! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_WhatsNew1_052009 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 15 17:05:20 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 19:05:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-YVR In-Reply-To: <544257666.20090514151827@pacifier.com> References: <544257666.20090514151827@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Bill, I guess I'm a bit late with this, ... but detour a bit to the right and drop by. Robert D. Ottawa ON Canada -----Original Message----- From: Bill L Sent: May 14, 2009 6:18 PM Hello Spridgets, Heading out tomorrow morning for the annual trip to Canada. I expect to see several listers, some of them first time participants. Anyone else, mine has a SPRIDGETS sticker on the windshield and a 50th LotO badge in the grill. Oh yeah, most likely the one SWA with a Hardtop.. See ya there! (except those guys getting rained on at Carlisle, whatever THAT is! ? ) -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 15 20:27:39 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:27:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> That is the single WORST thing to do, Bill !!!!! GRAPHITE ONLY !!!! Ask any speedo/instrument shop keeper!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 15 20:29:44 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:29:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <200905142331.AA214958326@intrex.net> Message-ID: WAY behind in eMails gents.... << Hey Ed! Say Hi to Ed.>> OK !!!! Hi Ed (and WELCOME to THE best Spridget List)!!!! The "Real" & first Ed (and WE have the BEST name!!!!) From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri May 15 22:16:22 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <347011.5847.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Two Ed's are better than one..... ________________________________ From: Ed's Shop To: Spridgets Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 7:29:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum WAY behind in eMails gents.... << Hey Ed! Say Hi to Ed.>> OK !!!! Hi Ed (and WELCOME to THE best Spridget List)!!!! The "Real" & first Ed (and WE have the BEST name!!!!) You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri May 15 22:43:19 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:43:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Maybe oil is bad for the speedo cable but if you do it every 4 or 5 years the cable seems to keep working for 20 years so far (and it was old when I got it). Bill > From: shop at justbrits.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:27:39 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable > > <> > > That is the single WORST thing to do, Bill !!!!! > > GRAPHITE ONLY !!!! > > Ask any speedo/instrument shop keeper!!!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd1_052009 From smarc at smarc.net Fri May 15 22:51:49 2009 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 00:51:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <4A0CE991.9070506@smarc.net> References: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A025ECF.9010601@smarc.net> <4A089779.5020901@smarc.net> <4A0CE991.9070506@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4A0E4665.8030905@smarc.net> Filled up the transmission, started it up, and not enough clutch pedal. No big deal, obviously my shortened push rod is too short now. Fire up the mig and built it up 1/16", tried again, 2 or 3 iterations and I've got clutch. So I drive it off the lift - seems ok, although the clutch starts engaging really close to the floor... maybe pushrod could be a lil longer yet. Anyway, it seems ok, so I back it out of the garage, and do a little 3 point maneuver to turn it around. Due to the slope and position of other cars in the driveway some feathering of the clutch is necessary, but nothing I would consider unusual. I stop the car, get out and look and.... yup - theres smoke coming from the bell housing. Mo%@$F#(^ing car... That 5 lb maul in the corner seems to beckon... The car seems to operate normally, no untoward noises. Everything went together effortlessly, easiest clutch change I've ever done. The smoke doesn't even smell like anything burning, certainly not like burnt clutch (I know what that smells like). I wiped down the pressure plate surface with brake cleaner before assembly. I was careful not to handle the clutch disk or TO bearing with greasy fingers. The pilot bearing is new, and was greased. The splines were very very lightly greased. The TO bearing was clean (and brand new). The TO bearing clears the pressure plate when the pedal is released. I've never seen anything like this on any vehicle I've swapped a clutch on. I'm tempted to say damn the torpedos, and drive it a bit to see what happens. Either it will stop smoking or stop working... or catch fire and redeem itself... Marc wrote: > My son & I pulled the engine & trans, swapped in the new clutch kit, and > reinstalled the engine Wednesday night.. Total time 2 hours, however > that was just bolting the engine back in, no plumbing, etc. > > Spent a couple leisurely hours tonight taking care of the rest of the > details. Realized I don't have any 20W50 oil to fill the transmission, > so prob tomorrow night will be the test... > > robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > >> My apologies in advance ... >> >> >> >> If they do show up for sale is it still a 'free pedal'? ;) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 17:24:09 -0400 >>> From: smarc at smarc.net >>> >>> If you start seeing lots of '73 midget bits appearing for sale in >>> the usual places, you can pretty well bet I got sick of screwing around >>> with it... From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 15 22:59:48 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 21:59:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New favorite tool Message-ID: <141475.55442.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Kevin, Frank, WST and Ed in unison all said I would cure my incurable hydraulics problem with a power bleed. I got the Gunson tool from Ed and all is well. 10 psig seemed to be the right number for Speedbleeders. I think regular bleeders would lower than number by a few psigs. Are you listening, Chris ;-). Ron From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat May 16 00:02:26 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:02:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <347011.5847.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <347011.5847.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A0E56F2.8050806@frontiernet.net> But we have three. Edward Perez wrote: > Two Ed's are better than one..... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 16 00:21:53 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 01:21:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <4A0E56F2.8050806@frontiernet.net> References: <347011.5847.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0E56F2.8050806@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905152321x72013e0fi4f9766558a1a5922@mail.gmail.com> OMG! Its an EDiction!! On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > But we have three. > > Edward Perez wrote: > >> Two Ed's are better than one..... From mahney at gmail.com Sat May 16 06:04:22 2009 From: mahney at gmail.com (Greg Mahney) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 20:04:22 +0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Washers on Oil Pan/Sump Message-ID: <780ad83f0905160504gd1fda9ag8c69c3fe782a54cd@mail.gmail.com> I've pulled my sump (oil pan) off my 1098 and notice that the elongated washers are all dished, or curved. Are they meant to be like this, or have mine been over tightened? Thanks for you help. Greg (in Western Australia) From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat May 16 06:08:25 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 05:08:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum Message-ID: A 1275 in a RB Midget? Interesting. Did you buy it that way or did you do the swap? Welcome to the list, BTW! -=Chris (another RB guy) Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ >From: Edward Perez [eap2140 at yahoo.com] >Sent: 5/15/2009 2:37:13 PM >To: oldsaabguy at comcast.net >Cc: Spridgets at autox.team. >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum > >Now that I feel like part of the family, here's the car.... > >Need to evaluate my 1275 engine with the OSHIT team. It and the Datsun 210 >tranny are out of the car right now. It's a 4-speed, looking for a 5-speed, but >not a priority. $hort on funds. > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/ >Cc: "Spridgets Net " >Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:20:04 AM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum > Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat May 16 06:26:16 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 07:26:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I almost bought a late 74 Midget for $400 about 6 years ago, here in North Texas. It was a 1275, but had the RB body. I guess they were segueing into the new body style at that point. So, while unusual, not impossible. On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Chris King wrote: > A 1275 in a RB Midget? Interesting. > > Did you buy it that way or did you do the swap? > > Welcome to the list, BTW! > > -=Chris (another RB guy) > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > > >From: Edward Perez [eap2140 at yahoo.com] > >Sent: 5/15/2009 2:37:13 PM > >To: oldsaabguy at comcast.net > >Cc: Spridgets at autox.team. > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum > > > >Now that I feel like part of the family, here's the car.... > > > >Need to evaluate my 1275 engine with the OSHIT team. It and the Datsun > 210 > >tranny are out of the car right now. It's a 4-speed, looking for a > 5-speed, but > >not a priority. $hort on funds. > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/ > >Cc: "Spridgets Net " > >Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 11:20:04 AM > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New to the forum > > > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat May 16 06:57:08 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 07:57:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum In-Reply-To: <347011.5847.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <347011.5847.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49304.12.155.250.66.1242478628.squirrel@wm.wi.net> All right! He fits right in! Just don't get as corny as Jim Johnson! He IS from Kansas however, so we cut him a lot of slack. ;-) FWIW, Freeze warning for the Green Bay area tonight (the Frozen Tundra)better be warmer at Elkhart Lake tomorrow. Dave W. 59 :{) > Two Ed's are better than one..... From mark at nashvilletn.org Sat May 16 08:24:42 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 09:24:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Measurement Needed References: <319A195D05604040B9CC1A6DC69427B9@Dell9200> Message-ID: <0F6FBDB9D9D64548B51469EB630FF9D3@Dell9200> Guys, I need the measurement of the post on bonnet (hood) catch release the MK II Sprite and MK I MG and up. I don't have one here to look at, it is the same hood catch release used on the MGB per the moss part numbers (406-015). I need the diameter of the post that the release cable attaches. As I recall from memory it is about 3/8 diameter. Thanks, Mark Nashville From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat May 16 11:38:06 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 10:38:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tuning books... Message-ID: <259044.80747.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> I have at least 7 different books on repairing/maintaining my Sprite. But looking at possibly later on tuning the beast, I frequently see listers' making references to Vizards' book, and I have Dennis Stapletons' book.. Does anyone have any thoughts on Des Hammill's book "1275cc A-Series High-Performance Manual"?? No flame wars... just input ;-)) Dave G. 64/65 Sprite The Beast Richland, WA From rbastedo at gmail.com Sat May 16 12:11:35 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 11:11:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Message-ID: Just a note before I leave LA to go to Anaheim... What do you think it would take to get a speedo cable hooked up in my MK2 Sprite? With that Bugeye motor & tranny I guess they just didn't bother with a cable. Just one of the little things I'm working out. RickB ____________________________________________ From: Bill Masquelier Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable Maybe oil is bad for the speedo cable but if you do it every 4 or 5 years the cable seems to keep working for 20 years so far (and it was old when I got it). Bill From CAWS52803 at aol.com Sat May 16 13:12:57 2009 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 15:12:57 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Headlight dipper switch - help! Message-ID: Recently the little (1") cap/button popped off it's bracket. This is the dimmer switch that controls the high/low headlights on my Bugeye. I cleaned it up and pushed it back on, but because of the spring, it just pops back off. There is no apparent way to fastened it down. Even the Parts Manual doesn't show any method to secure the cap. And looking at the bracket, there is nothing that appears to be a switch to control the headlights. It is just a solid piece with the 3 wires connected to the underneath. Any guidance and/or explanation is greatly appreciated. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat May 16 13:23:27 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:23:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Headlight dipper switch - help! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you look closely at the cap, I believe you will see a dimple in the side of it. Try to use a 16 penny nail, and make that dimple a wee bit deeper, then push it back on. Brad On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM, wrote: > Recently the little (1") cap/button popped off it's bracket. This is the > dimmer switch that controls the high/low headlights on my Bugeye. I > cleaned > it up and pushed it back on, but because of the spring, it just pops back > off. There is no apparent way to fastened it down. Even the Parts Manual > doesn't show any method to secure the cap. And looking at the bracket, > there > is nothing that appears to be a switch to control the headlights. It is > just > a solid piece with the 3 wires connected to the underneath. > Any guidance and/or explanation is greatly appreciated. > Rudy Streng > Lenoir, NC > **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in > the U.S. > ( > http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002 > ) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 16 13:44:57 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:44:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Speedo Cable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> It is Bill, AND it 'attracts' DIRT ... << but if you do it every 4 or 5 years the cable seems to keep working for 20 years so far>> which IS why you have to do it so often. << (and it was old when I got it).>> Hortense was 12 when she found me and she turned 45 on 3/3 and hers was graphited shortly after I got her as a part of general going over 'clean-up'!! And NOT needed to re-do yet (knock on wood). Ed From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat May 16 14:37:22 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 13:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tuning books... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <122412.91261.qm@web84206.mail.re3.yahoo.com> To DANIEL.. - and all that corrected me. Abject apologies.... mea culpa, mea maxima culpa !! But what do you expect when (a) I'm older than dirt (b) working from memory -see a. (c)not on my own PC and (d) doing my email from the Public Library!! Why the heck I typed Dennis when I *know* it's Daniel (I got the book!) is beyond my ken.. Time to leave the library I guess!! Exit Dave G., stage left, red faced! > Pssst! It's Daniel Stapleton's; not Dennis!! > Dave G. > 64/65 Sprite The Beast > Richland, WA From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat May 16 14:47:18 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:47:18 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Tuning books... Message-ID: This is the 2008 edition of that book with all the extra stuff about the 1275 block and some stuff about the Pierce head, etc, etc? I don't think Des's book will have anything that isn't already in the other 2 books. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 16/05/2009 18:38:22 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at verizon.net writes: and I have Dennis Stapletons' book.. Does anyone have any thoughts on Des Hammill's book "1275cc A-Series High-Performance Manual"?? From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat May 16 15:23:12 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 14:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tuning books... Message-ID: <228528.84294.qm@web51410.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I'd like to see that DENNIS Stapleton book, lol. --- On Sat, 5/16/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tuning books... To: kk7ss at verizon.net, spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 4:47 PM This is the 2008 edition of that book with all the extra stuff about the 1275 block and some stuff about the Pierce head, etc, etc? I don't think Des's book will have anything that isn't already in the other 2 books. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 16/05/2009 18:38:22 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at verizon.net writes: and I have Dennis Stapletons' book.. Does anyone have any thoughts on Des Hammill's book "1275cc A-Series High-Performance Manual"?? You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 16 15:35:13 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 16:35:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiat humor, No LBC - Instead its LIC Message-ID: <43840a7e0905161435q79cfba3fg699b6e3eaea5e57a@mail.gmail.com> What do you call a Fiat at the top of a hill? A miracle. What do you call 2 Fiats at the top of a hill? Science Fiction What do you call 3 Fiats at the top of a hill? A salvage yard. What are the last 6 pages in the Fiat owners manual? Bus and Train Schedules. How do you get a Fiat to go 60 mph? Push it off a cliff. Then there was the guy who got a new gas cap for his Fiat. Pretty good trade, huh! How do you get spare parts for a Fiat? Follow another one around. What will we have when we combine Chrysler and Fiat? A large car that won't start. What is the difference between a Fiat and a Jehovah's Witness? You can close the door on the Jehovah's Witness. -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From conan at intrex.net Sat May 16 16:42:59 2009 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:42:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum Message-ID: <200905161842.AA409207104@intrex.net> OMG! Its an EDiction!! On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > But we have three. > > Edward Perez wrote: > Thank you, Kate! I've always been rather partial to the name, MR. Ed. ...and just what is Jim trying to say about my diction?? Ed(mund) in NC :-) From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 16 17:58:40 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 18:58:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New favorite tool In-Reply-To: <141475.55442.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> Great. <<10 psig seemed to be the right number for Speedbleeders. Have to remember dat !! <> Yep, EIGHT (8) is what I have found to be the best. And I HAVE 'experimented' with LOTS of cars!!!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat May 16 18:04:17 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (DAVID GROPPER) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 17:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tuning books... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <166955.25600.qm@web84208.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tuning books... > This is the 2008 edition of that book with all the extra > stuff about the > 1275 block and some stuff about the Pierce head, etc, etc? Yep... the latest and greatest ;-)) > I don't think Des's book will have anything that > isn't already in the other > 2 books. Thanks.... Now, if only I could figure out the winning lottery numbers.... Dave G. From spritenut at comcast.net Sat May 16 19:25:59 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] New favorite tool In-Reply-To: <141475.55442.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <141475.55442.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A0F67A7.9040607@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Kevin, Frank, WST and Ed in unison all said I would cure my incurable hydraulics problem with a power bleed. I got the Gunson tool from Ed and all is well. 10 psig seemed to be the right number for Speedbleeders. I think regular bleeders would lower than number by a few psigs. Are you listening, Chris ;-). > > If you would only listen to us old farts. Now that you have the Gunson, don't lend it out, mine never came back so I just use the blow nozzle from the air compressor, turn it down to about 15 psi and I already have a hole in a master lid that fits my nozzle. Works almost every time, just not on the L8D BUG, but I think I have a different issue with that clutch anyway, -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sat May 16 19:27:38 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:27:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Washers on Oil Pan/Sump In-Reply-To: <780ad83f0905160504gd1fda9ag8c69c3fe782a54cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <780ad83f0905160504gd1fda9ag8c69c3fe782a54cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0F680A.7020300@comcast.net> Greg Mahney wrote: > I've pulled my sump (oil pan) off my 1098 and notice that the elongated > washers are all dished, or curved. Are they meant to be like this, or have > mine been over tightened? They should be flat but will cave in a little when tightened. I turn em over and use them again. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sat May 16 19:33:46 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:33:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fiat humor, No LBC - Instead its LIC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905161435q79cfba3fg699b6e3eaea5e57a@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0905161435q79cfba3fg699b6e3eaea5e57a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A0F697A.8060803@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: Fiat humor Today at the Carlisle Import show I noticed a Plymouth Duster in with some Fiats. I jokingly said to Frankie... Must be the new Chrysler Fiat. And when we read the windshield poster, that is exactly what it said. And of course there was a Strada with a Chrysler sign in the window. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sat May 16 19:53:17 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 21:53:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Carlisle Import Message-ID: <4A0F6E0D.10804@comcast.net> I'm home, and only hit a little rain, not enough to stop and put the top up but it did rain, it always rains at Carlisle Import. But it was good to see all the guys again and I did great scrounging for parts. My son was with me but he only bought a few VW parts. Koni shocks for his Dasher $20 a set. a couple of steering wheels and some polishing rags. Other than that, the Sprite boot was full with my stash, no room for luggage in the trunk. The side curtains and bumper had to ride behind the seats along with our luggage and 8 track tapes but we couldn't hear the music cause the speakers were under duffel bags. I found everything I need to finish the current 69 project, side curtains for the ladybug, and the usual restocking goodies I *may* need in the future. On the free tables, there was 2 TR7 transmissions, yes 2 trannys for free. On the Sprite free table I grabbed a working heater blower, new carbon release bearing, Sq body bonnet latch and a few other goodies, the VW $1 box had my son busy and I even found a pair of Bosch tune up kits that sure look like they will fit a Sprite, at least the condenser is exact but the points get wired on the side, not the top. These were in the VW free table area. Hey, cheap is good but free is better. Found a pair of NOS late model window cranks, excellent set of original head lamp rims, a whole trunk load of stuff. It was a good 2 days. And lots of cars, my buddy from Richmond, VA with a showed up in his 2CV Truckette, he already has the 2CV car, now a truck or van with his locksmith signs all over it. Yes it is his daily driver, and his work truck. I got to drive it from the pub last night, 2 cylinders, 28 hp, and 3 people in the thing and I was wondering if it was going to make it up to the 35 mph speed limit. Cool cars and simple. I saw a 63 Toyota 600 sports car. Toyota actually had style back than as did the Datsun with their Fairlady 1600. Yeah I know the new 370 Z is known as a Fairlady in Japan but they all look like hondas except the 1600s, they look like MGBs ;) Loads of Saabs, Renaults, Sunbeams, and even a Simca. I never saw so many Opels in 1 spot either. Early BMWs and Audis, Mazdas from back when they went Hmmmmm instead of zoom-zoom-zoom with Wankle rotarys. RX2 and some other weird early Mazda. Another great meet. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From mahney at gmail.com Sun May 17 07:24:06 2009 From: mahney at gmail.com (Greg Mahney) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:24:06 +0800 Subject: [Spridgets] (non) Fitting Rear End Plate Message-ID: <780ad83f0905170624w3801d982x29127b4611195715@mail.gmail.com> I'm rebuilding a 1098 engine. I've just gone to fit the rear end plate, and it doesnt seem to fit!!.. I'm pretty sure I have it the right way around. The problem seems to be in getting the plate to fit over the oil pump (whilst still fitting onto the two locating pins). The new oil pump I have put on has a "fatter" top than the old one I had. I don't know if that would make any difference and I haven't refitted the old one to check that out. Has anyone else had this problem. Thanks Greg in Western Australia From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 17 09:46:11 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 10:46:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New to the forum References: <347011.5847.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A0E56F2.8050806@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: >> Two Ed's are better than one..... > But we have three. I guess the new one should bump off the one with the most seniority. WELCOME, New Ed! From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 17 10:10:20 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:10:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Preview Message-ID: <66FB78C191DF4D8487B95C5F37A8E51D@rwa> Well, I took the Bugeye up to Road America Saturday for the Morgan Triumph Austin Healey Autocross Challenge. No Triumphs showed up this year, but there were a wide variety of Morgan roadsters present, including a 2005 V6, a number of the Plus 8 and Plu 4 models. A red 1275 Bugeye showed up as well as a very lively 100-6 and a 100-6 with small-block Chevy and TH400. Oh yes, there was a beautiful 1990 Catterham 7 with Zetec engine for sale as well. Anyone wanna loan me $22,500??? The course is lovely; set in the side of a hill so that you can observe the whole thing (at least as much as we used) from the starting line. More of a Solo I event than Solo II, bu tthere's nothing wrong with that! (Not that I would object to a Solo II event there...) Unsurprisingly enough, the Caterham took FTD with a time of 1:02.78. The V6 Morgan (on Yoko Advan 048s) snagged second with 1:05.27. My Bugeye, with the smallest engine there, snagged third with 1:05.52. I guess that was the fastest time on street tires. Fun event and a GREAT participation AND spectator event for the Midget 50th! David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 17 10:46:53 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 11:46:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Preview References: <66FB78C191DF4D8487B95C5F37A8E51D@rwa> Message-ID: <67137E8C8EB04ED78A936D436324AD62@Larry> Sounds like you drove well, David. Congrats. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "72 Spridget" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "S pridgets" Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 11:10 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Preview Well, I took the Bugeye up to Road America Saturday for the Morgan Triumph Austin Healey Autocross Challenge. No Triumphs showed up this year, but there were a wide variety of Morgan roadsters present, including a 2005 V6, a number of the Plus 8 and Plu 4 models. A red 1275 Bugeye showed up as well as a very lively 100-6 and a 100-6 with small-block Chevy and TH400. Oh yes, there was a beautiful 1990 Catterham 7 with Zetec engine for sale as well. Anyone wanna loan me $22,500??? The course is lovely; set in the side of a hill so that you can observe the whole thing (at least as much as we used) from the starting line. More of a Solo I event than Solo II, bu tthere's nothing wrong with that! (Not that I would object to a Solo II event there...) Unsurprisingly enough, the Caterham took FTD with a time of 1:02.78. The V6 Morgan (on Yoko Advan 048s) snagged second with 1:05.27. My Bugeye, with the smallest engine there, snagged third with 1:05.52. I guess that was the fastest time on street tires. Fun event and a GREAT participation AND spectator event for the Midget 50th! David Lieb From Miniac7 at aol.com Sun May 17 12:05:32 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 14:05:32 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Shirts / Half Price Clearance Message-ID: Some of you will remember that I was selling Sprite tee-shirts last year at $20 a pop, before, during and after the Sprite Jubilee in Pennsylvania. In fact, many of you bought them from me. Well, it appears that the Sprite/Midget crowd snapped up all the L, XL, and XXL's (imagine that), leaving me with a half dozen mediums. Before I start using them as shop rags, I thought I'd try one last ditch effort to un-load them on the Spridget community. To that end, I'm offering them at the never before heard of pricing of $10 each, plus shipping. I have two in light blue and four in red. The front of the shirt carries a 3/4 left front shot of a Bugeye with the top removed. I can send pictures of the shirts, or you can see them at the Dooderware web site at: _http://www.dooderwear.com/dooderwear.com/sprite.html_ (http://www.dooderwear.com/dooderwear.com/sprite.html) Surprise your kid, grand-kid, or the girl next door with one of these shirts at half the regular price. Thanks, Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002) From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 17 12:27:41 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 13:27:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Shirts / Half Price Clearance References: Message-ID: <19E79A3A1A78441ABF80CFEFC6ECDA0B@rwa> >>> ... The front of the shirt carries a 3/4 left front shot of a Bugeye >>> with the top removed... >>> Surprise your kid, grand-kid, or the girl next door with one of these >>> ... Troublemaker! Trying to inveigle us into buying a topless shirt for the girl next door... Lorry Denials From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 17 15:08:58 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 16:08:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sintered Bronze Bushes (& spigot bushes) Message-ID: FYI, FWIW & I DO sell pilot bushes!!!! With a sintered bronze bushing there is a 10-second shortcut to the overnight soak. Place the bushing on your thumb, open end up. Fill with oil to the top. Put your other thumb on top to seal both ends, and squeeze firmly. In a matter of seconds you will see oil beads on the outside like it was sweating, indicating full saturation of the bronze matrix. Author: Barney Gaylord, MGAGURU Ed From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 17 15:49:25 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 16:49:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sintered Bronze Bushes (& spigot bushes) References: Message-ID: <0DF9F293EB474A49B8B4EA5EFC22CE46@rwa> > With a sintered bronze bushing there is a 10-second > shortcut to the overnight soak. Place the bushing on > your thumb, open end up. Fill with oil to the top. Put > your other thumb on top to seal both ends, and > squeeze firmly. In a matter of seconds you will see > oil beads on the outside like it was sweating, > indicating full saturation of the bronze matrix. > Author: Barney Gaylord, MGAGURU You mean Barney is just now finding this out??? This has been SOP for years. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun May 17 16:25:06 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:25:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sintered Bronze Bushes (& spigot bushes) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So ... Capn Bob. Do you need a bushes? -----Original Message----- From: Ed's Shop FYI, FWIW & I DO sell pilot bushes!!!! With a sintered bronze bushing there is a 10-second shortcut to the overnight soak. Place the bushing on your thumb, open end up. Fill with oil to the top. Put your other thumb on top to seal both ends, and squeeze firmly. In a matter of seconds you will see oil beads on the outside like it was sweating, indicating full saturation of the bronze matrix. Author: Barney Gaylord, MGAGURU Ed From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 17 16:38:26 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 15:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sintered Bronze Bushes (& spigot bushes) Message-ID: <274219.21222.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Ed's Shop wrote: > indicating full saturation of the bronze matrix. > Author: Barney Gaylord, MGAGURU I heard a theory that in a fully matrixed bronze bushing if you fully saturate the matrix as suggested, you can actually do more harm than good if you run the engine over 5000 RPM for any period of time. The temperature of the surface film of oil will exceed 500F locally, which is above the coking point of both SAE and MIL-L-7808 and MIL-L-23699 oils, and the oil will coke. In the absence of a properly reactive surfactant, the resultant carbon deposit wears the crank spigot exponentially. OK, OK - I made that up. Just wanted to use the word "matrix" and sound "Guru-ish" too! ;-). Soak it good - Anon From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Sun May 17 17:14:08 2009 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:14:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] J B Weld Message-ID: I hope someone can help me with this. I have googled it with no satisfactory results. I glued a broken stem on a door mirror back together with J B Weld. While I was waiting for it to set up, it dripped down onto the door and left a streak about the width of a flat toothpick and a little longer than the toothpick. It is on a base coat, clear coat paint job. Does anyone on the list know something that might take it off without ruining the paint? So far, I have not found anything on the web that would work. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 17 19:17:54 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:17:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sintered Bronze Bushes (& spigot bushes) In-Reply-To: <274219.21222.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <274219.21222.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A10B742.6050804@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Ed's Shop wrote: > >> indicating full saturation of the bronze matrix. >> Author: Barney Gaylord, MGAGURU >> > > I heard a theory that in a fully matrixed bronze bushing if you fully saturate the matrix as suggested, you can actually do more harm than good if you run the engine over 5000 RPM for any period of time. The temperature of the surface film of oil will exceed 500F locally, which is above the coking point of both SAE and MIL-L-7808 and MIL-L-23699 oils, and the oil will coke. In the absence of a properly reactive surfactant, the resultant carbon deposit wears the crank spigot exponentially. > > Damn engineers. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 17 19:24:56 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:24:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] J B Weld In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A10B8E8.4000703@comcast.net> Bobby Godwin wrote: > I hope someone can help me with this. I have googled it with no > satisfactory results. I glued a broken stem on a door mirror back together > with J B Weld. While I was waiting for it to set up, it dripped down onto > the door and left a streak about the width of a flat toothpick and a little > longer than the toothpick. It is on a base coat, clear coat paint job. > Does anyone on the list know something that might take it off without > ruining the paint? So far, I have not found anything on the web that would > work. > If it is a modern paint like urethane, lacquer thinner will not hurt it if the paint is a couple weeks old. I know lacquer thinner will take off the JB weld. But to play it safe, try regular paint thinner first, this will NOT hurt the paint in any way as I use it to wipe off any excess undercoating around the wheel lips 2 days after paint. And I have used it to remove glue from a new paint job. I have used lacquer thinner to remove spray bomb overspray tonight on the 69 I am working on. I got some flat black on the bonnet lip and Lacquer thinner took it off and no green showed up on the rag. Try the Lacquer thinner if the paint thinner does not work. Work fast, maybe wipe it down and let it soften the JB, then hit it again. with a clean rag or paper towel, look on the towel for signs of the clear coat which might be tough since it's clear. Do NOT let it soak too long as it might soften the paint. I would not go as strong as acetone, that might melt the paint. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 17 19:29:45 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:29:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud Message-ID: <4A10BA09.7020104@comcast.net> Today at lunch I grabbed a glass out of my cupboard, one of Ed's MG Safety Fast glasses. So I was thinking about this MG slogan. Safety-Fast. MGs were not the safest cars of their time nor were they very fast. So who made up this slogan? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 17 20:04:15 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (soavero at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud Message-ID: <734869.98312.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Frank wrote: > So I was thinking about this MG slogan. Safety-Fast. > MGs were not the safest cars of their time nor were they > very fast. > So who made up this slogan? It's certainly more accurate than "We build excitement...Pontiac" Ron From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun May 17 20:17:00 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:17:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud References: <734869.98312.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <52226C83757141C2AC5B2CD1E186AB18@rwa> >> So I was thinking about this MG slogan. Safety-Fast. >> MGs were not the safest cars of their time nor were they >> very fast. >> So who made up this slogan? It is a laudable goal and one which stood for decades. Once you attain a goal, you must find something else to strive for. MG did not have this problem... From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun May 17 20:22:30 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:22:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] J B Weld References: Message-ID: <66D37F5BC0094A51BE0FEE589B6AE796@blackbox2> I would carefully shave the JB weld off with a razor blade. Then buff with some No7 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobby Godwin" > I hope someone can help me with this. I have googled it with no > satisfactory results. I glued a broken stem on a door mirror back together > with J B Weld. While I was waiting for it to set up, it dripped down onto > the door and left a streak about the width of a flat toothpick and a little > longer than the toothpick. It is on a base coat, clear coat paint job. > Does anyone on the list know something that might take it off without > ruining the paint? So far, I have not found anything on the web that would > work. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 17 20:38:47 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 22:38:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <734869.98312.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <734869.98312.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A10CA37.7000008@comcast.net> soavero at yahoo.com wrote: > --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Frank wrote: > >> So I was thinking about this MG slogan. Safety-Fast. >> MGs were not the safest cars of their time nor were they >> very fast. >> So who made up this slogan? >> > > It's certainly more accurate than "We build excitement...Pontiac" > Yeah and "Chevrolet, We'll be there" From jfishbein at snet.net Sun May 17 20:46:55 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 19:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <734869.98312.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <903310.11262.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> While driving this evening on the highway, I was day dreaming and thinking about Pontiac. I thought to myself: "Why did that once grand company meet it's demise?" when a moment later an Aztec passed me. True story. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Sun, 5/17/09, soavero at yahoo.com wrote: From: soavero at yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud It's certainly more accurate than "We build excitement...Pontiac" From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 17 20:56:20 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 21:56:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <4A10CA37.7000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <<> It's certainly more accurate than "We build excitement...Pontiac" > Yeah and "Chevrolet, We'll be there">> But AS accurate as "Fix Or Repair Daily" or "Found On Road Dead" !! Ron From derf247 at gmail.com Sun May 17 20:58:01 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 20:58:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] J B Weld In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910905171958q3c455686i3a13baa1d4bdb84d@mail.gmail.com> They make a tool for removing pin stripes from cars. It might work. I would take to a reputable body shop and get their advice. Many times extreme heat or cold will break down two part epoxies, like JB weld. You may try holding an ice cube on it and then pry with your fingernail. Please let us know how it turns out. Cheers, Derf From mahney at gmail.com Sun May 17 22:44:37 2009 From: mahney at gmail.com (Greg Mahney) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:44:37 +0800 Subject: [Spridgets] pridgets] (non) Fitting Rear End Plate In-Reply-To: <780ad83f0905172140t36122680l12ce8bda2a676c46@mail.gmail.com> References: <780ad83f0905170624w3801d982x29127b4611195715@mail.gmail.com> <780ad83f0905172140t36122680l12ce8bda2a676c46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <780ad83f0905172144m23a7ca19ue0598e4ad647d687@mail.gmail.com> Further to my earlier post... I found a bit of discussion on the topic here http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=331451 But I wasn't very convinced by the answers! In the picture at the above site my old pump is like that guy's old pump, and my new one looks like his new one. Does this clarify the issue for anyone? Greg in Western Australia From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 17 23:03:54 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 00:03:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <4A10BA09.7020104@comcast.net> References: <4A10BA09.7020104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905172203x1e319e0ci7c818a0a4d3f58eb@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Frank wrote: > Today at lunch I grabbed a glass out of my cupboard, one of Ed's MG Safety > Fast glasses. > So I was thinking about this MG slogan. Safety-Fast. > MGs were not the safest cars of their time nor were they very fast. > So who made up this slogan? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > If I recall correctly from one of my MG history books there is, in fact, a story behind the factory slogan. I will dig the books out this week and see where it comes from. I think it may date back to Cecil Kimber or Sid Enever but not sure... Or.... It could have been taken from a condom ad..... -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon May 18 06:28:48 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:28:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <4A10BA09.7020104@comcast.net> References: <4A10BA09.7020104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7lku3e$65vm5l@email.mtu.edu> >So I was thinking about this MG slogan. Safety-Fast. Chrysler has launched a new TV ad campaign. The theme is; "We Build." That's OK, I guess, but "We build Rockets"????? Would you buy a rocket from Chrysler? And, didn't Olds build rockets? LOL Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Mon May 18 06:32:10 2009 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 05:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud Message-ID: <307681.3242.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Most likely a driver of an MG said as he found his brake, clutch, and electrical system out as driveing down a mountainside; "I need some Safety-Fast! " --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Frank wrote: From: Frank Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud To: "Spridgets" Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 8:29 PM Today at lunch I grabbed a glass out of my cupboard, one of Ed's MG Safety Fast glasses. So I was thinking about this MG slogan. Safety-Fast. MGs were not the safest cars of their time nor were they very fast. So who made up this slogan? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites You are subscribed as redmidget72 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon May 18 06:51:37 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 07:51:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS Thicko shop move May and June Message-ID: <000301c9d7b7$66b03220$34109660$@com> Hey y'all, To all that could make themselves available over the next 6 weeks, I could use all the help I can get for a shop move (whether it be individual, or organized group efforts). For sale. Frankensprite. A super solid Bugeye tub with good steel nose, full cage, set up for right hand drive. $1800 or best offer For sale. Healey Sportsboat $7000 or best offer Also, I'll have 2 Sprite sized open trailers for sale inexpensively. Please respond to me offline. Thanks. WST From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon May 18 08:03:59 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:03:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <307681.3242.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <307681.3242.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402188520905180703x56b61bdbj8d0486ce3dfedaed@mail.gmail.com> Ron, I thought it was Frst On Race Day... From fastvee at yahoo.com Mon May 18 08:12:21 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 07:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Autocross Preview Message-ID: <287828.45634.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Congratulations David! Quite an accomplishment, even if you didn't get to beat up on the tractors. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Sun, 5/17/09, 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: My Bugeye, with the smallest engine there, snagged third with 1:05.52. I guess that was the fastest time on street tires. From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Mon May 18 08:32:23 2009 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:32:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <4A10BA09.7020104@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4.1.20090518102644.00d23448@mail.bellsouth.net> I look forward to an official explanation, but my understanding is that it was the slogan that appeared with the factory race team and on many advertisements in the day. Bob Van Kirk and I use it as the name of our vintage race team, i.e. Safety Fast MG Vintage Race Team. I hope we don't have any copyright conflicts! There is a guy who vintage races a pre-war or T-series car who has a paddock banner in the correct red script for his race team - Safely Last Racing. That may be more like it. Bob At 09:29 PM 5/17/2009 , Frank wrote: >Today at lunch I grabbed a glass out of my cupboard, one of Ed's MG >Safety Fast glasses. >So I was thinking about this MG slogan. Safety-Fast. >MGs were not the safest cars of their time nor were they very fast. >So who made up this slogan? > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ >My own Fleet of Sprites >_______________________________________________ From heard at datatrontech.net Mon May 18 09:20:51 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:20:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <402188520905180703x56b61bdbj8d0486ce3dfedaed@mail.gmail.com> References: <307681.3242.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <402188520905180703x56b61bdbj8d0486ce3dfedaed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04a901c9d7cc$3b73b9f0$1801010a@xp> The other day I saw a pickup truck with a bumper sticker... FORD - For Our Redneck Daughter -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:04 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud Ron, I thought it was Frst On Race Day... You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From fastvee at yahoo.com Mon May 18 10:05:44 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 09:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cam Trade Message-ID: <638489.27550.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have a new Kent cams MD286 that I will trade for another new cam with less duration. Anyone interested in a swap? http://www.kentcams.com/ Enter MD286 into their search engine to see the specs. Some claim this is an excellent street cam for a 1275 or larger A-series engine. John Fogelsville, PA From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 18 10:29:06 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:29:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <402188520905180703x56b61bdbj8d0486ce3dfedaed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> NOT at Charlotte Sat. Nite, David!!! Tony Stewart (NEW Race Team) in his Chevy won ONE Million $s !!!!! Amazing. From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 18 10:35:16 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 11:35:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <4.1.20090518102644.00d23448@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <> Ya'll can dig it out yourselves just by clicking on The Archive Link at the bottom of EVERY List Post!!!! See "MG-T", "MGs", "MGB-V8", and/or "MG-MMM". Subject has been beaten to death on "MGs"!! "Enjoy" the 'hunt'. LOL From derf247 at gmail.com Mon May 18 10:37:23 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 10:37:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <04a901c9d7cc$3b73b9f0$1801010a@xp> References: <307681.3242.qm@web51901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <402188520905180703x56b61bdbj8d0486ce3dfedaed@mail.gmail.com> <04a901c9d7cc$3b73b9f0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <5f00d9910905180937o38e6009eie45d63f7c60eefd@mail.gmail.com> Found On Road Dead Fix Or Repair Daily Feeble Italian Attempted Transportation Fix It Again Tonio There are bunches more. The other day I saw a pickup truck with a bumper sticker... > > FORD - For Our Redneck Daughter From peter at nosimport.com Mon May 18 11:01:12 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:01:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: References: <402188520905180703x56b61bdbj8d0486ce3dfedaed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905181001726.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 11:29 AM 5/18/2009, Ed's Shop wrote: >Tony Stewart (NEW Race Team) in his Chevy >won ONE Million $s !!!!! ========= Chevy could use it........ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 18 12:00:42 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:00:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... Message-ID: <43840a7e0905181100l17957deaw50276b99d9473782@mail.gmail.com> FYI, it is now 12:55 CDT and Astronaut Drew Fuestel is outside (VERY outside) working on the Hubble Telescope. If you have the NASA channel on TV you can watch him. He's the guy in the big white suit ;-) For those not familiar, Dr. Andrew (Drew) Fuestel, worked his way through college restoring old sports cars and is currently restoring (or has just finished) doing a box Sprite for his wife. A letter has gone to the Astronauts office in Houston inviting Drew to join us on the lists and also to join us at the big national Midget 50th anniversary celebration June 20-24, 2011 in Elkhart Lake. Thought you'd like to know.... -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From pilotrob at msn.com Mon May 18 12:03:21 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:03:21 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... Message-ID: Very cool, Jim. :) CB From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 18 12:08:08 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 13:08:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <200905181001726.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <402188520905180703x56b61bdbj8d0486ce3dfedaed@mail.gmail.com> <200905181001726.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905181108o55ba9ca3gb7238452f7fb0e9@mail.gmail.com> Did Tony get a FedEx the other day pulling his dealer franchises? :-) Maybe he could buy a Fiat franchise with his winnings? On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Chevy could use it........ -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon May 18 13:58:26 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 12:58:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Question Message-ID: <37dc82d40905181258l477bcdb8u3d149823f6c59c2c@mail.gmail.com> Bobby, Did the JB go through to the base colour coat or just the clear coat? If it went through the base colour coat it will have to be blended out. Do you still have some of the original colour laying around to either do a blend yourself or have someone else do a blend? If you would like, this is my field, I can walk you through the process. . you will need an airbrush that can be set to a bit of a wide setting. It is also a bit tricky. I have done many of these that later, you cannot tell. I have also had a few difficult ones that took extra work to get the blend in place. Kirk 59 F AYE From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Mon May 18 14:15:08 2009 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:15:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905181258l477bcdb8u3d149823f6c59c2c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Im not sure if it went through. I have not done anything else with it yet. Its on a 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee. I am trying to avoid having to have the door repainted. -----Original Message----- From: Kirk Hargreaves [mailto:khargreaves2 at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 3:58 PM To: bogodwin at bellsouth.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Paint Question Bobby, Did the JB go through to the base colour coat or just the clear coat? If it went through the base colour coat it will have to be blended out. Do you still have some of the original colour laying around to either do a blend yourself or have someone else do a blend? If you would like, this is my field, I can walk you through the process. . you will need an airbrush that can be set to a bit of a wide setting. It is also a bit tricky. I have done many of these that later, you cannot tell. I have also had a few difficult ones that took extra work to get the blend in place. Kirk 59 F AYE From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 18 18:59:59 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:59:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: idgetsprite] California Barn of MG's, Sprites, Midgets, & vintage racers Message-ID: I know ZERO about below & NFI & YMMV, yadda, yadda, yadda!!!!!!! (but I SURE WISH I was in CA!!!!!) -----Original Message----- From: Randy N Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: [midgetsprite] California Barn of MG's, Sprites, Midgets, & vintage racers This just popped up today on BaT and looks very interesting..... http://bringatrailer.com/2009/05/18/bat- exclusive-50-car-california-barn-stash/ Too bad my garage is full. Randy SF, Ca . __,_._,___ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon May 18 19:48:51 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 18:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... Message-ID: <72302.47854.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That's very cool JIm - thanks for sharing. Maybe he can join and make his first posts from orbit!. I like hearing of famous and/or wealthy people who like our little cars for the simple fact that they're huge fun, whether they impress the crowds or not. I have to admit that from the title of your email, I thought the opening line was going to be: "An Astronaut and a Sprite guy walk into a bar..." - David Booker '71 Midget Long Island --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: [Spridgets] Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... To: "Spridgets" , "Yahoo Spridget list" , "sprite-midgetclub" , "Sprite" Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 1:00 PM FYI, it is now 12:55 CDT and Astronaut Drew Fuestel is outside (VERY outside) working on the Hubble Telescope. If you have the NASA channel on TV you can watch him. He's the guy in the big white suit ;-) For those not familiar, Dr. Andrew (Drew) Fuestel, worked his way through college restoring old sports cars and is currently restoring (or has just finished) doing a box Sprite for his wife. A letter has gone to the Astronauts office in Houston inviting Drew to join us on the lists and also to join us at the big national Midget 50th anniversary celebration June 20-24, 2011 in Elkhart Lake. Thought you'd like to know.... -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon May 18 19:52:49 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:52:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunbeam Tiger Message-ID: <2F369E3A7B03409A9B6C036EF8C5DE71@Dell9200> Any of you folks know anything about Tigers? I am going to take a look at one in a couple days. It is a real tiger but not with the original 260, now has a 302. Mark Nashville From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon May 18 20:21:20 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sunbeam Tiger Message-ID: <324568.28830.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 5/18/09, Mark wrote: "Any of you folks know anything about Tigers?" Mark, Not that much except that I've always loved them. I know of a couple that have been around Nashville forever. There was a red one in Lavergne maybe 6 years ago and a white one I came across probably 15 or 18 years ago in the Antioch/Woodbine area. The white one was rough at the time but both were supposedly real. There was a story in Classic Motorsports / British Car a while ago that mentioned what to look for in a real one. Think it even mentioned the name of an expert. I would do some Googling on the subject, maybe go to the CM website. I know they are a bit on the heavy side so don't expect blinding performance unless seriously hotrodded. Lots of fun to drive, though and can sound great. Besides, I always liked Maxwell Smart. Obviously, the 302 will drop the price as will anything else not stock on this relatively rare car. That would be great news for me 'cause I couldn't give less of a crap about what is "supposed to be" on the car. They're easy to hotrod if that's what you want. If you want an original, I'd wait to find one already that way unless the price is REALLY right. Check the body really well. I recently saw one on a rotisserie in the Philly area that a guy had bought on eBay without a personal inspection. It had a new paint job and apparently looked decent in the photos. The new owner drove it down to a restoration shop to be gone through and made absolutely correct after it arrived on the truck. After they dug out all the filler, it was nothing but swiss cheese. I have never seen a car in that bad shape that had actually been driving around. If he had gotten on it, it looked like it wold have twisted in half. Virtually every panel in the body needed replacing so all he was left with was a very expensive old Mustang drivetrain.... David Booker '71 Midget Long Island (via way of Nashville) From: Mark Subject: [Spridgets] Sunbeam Tiger To: "Spridgets" Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 8:52 PM I am going to take a look at one in a couple days. It is a real tiger but not with the original 260, now has a 302. Mark Nashville You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon May 18 20:34:21 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:34:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunbeam Tiger In-Reply-To: <2F369E3A7B03409A9B6C036EF8C5DE71@Dell9200> References: <2F369E3A7B03409A9B6C036EF8C5DE71@Dell9200> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10905181934n1296209ftca62a69fa2ab429e@mail.gmail.com> All Tigers came with the 260 EXCEPT the MkII...which were 289. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon May 18 20:39:56 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 20:39:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunbeam Tiger In-Reply-To: <2F369E3A7B03409A9B6C036EF8C5DE71@Dell9200> References: <2F369E3A7B03409A9B6C036EF8C5DE71@Dell9200> Message-ID: <5f00d9910905181939l2e054f3dr5f1de3092b50e3f8@mail.gmail.com> IIRC, 260-289-302 are all the same family of engine so the value won't really be decreased by much for that. Where's Jim Pickard? He was a lister for a while. He has (had?) a nice Sunbeam Tiger. I think he sold his Bugeye, though. Email me off list if you want his email address, or find it in the archives. He is a good guy. From abcoz at hky.com Mon May 18 20:50:49 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 22:50:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud In-Reply-To: <4A10BA09.7020104@comcast.net> References: <4A10BA09.7020104@comcast.net> Message-ID: At the time that the slogan was first thought of (1930-something). MG was to the sports car world what Porsche was to become to it (the sports car world) in the 1950s & early 60s. In the world of high performance, "fast" is generally a relative term. The "safety" in Safety Fast had to do with safe, predictable handling characteristics, which was always an MG trait. Who made it up? I'm sure I've read it somewhere (MG by McComb???). Maybe Cecil Kimber, maybe someone in the advert department, at Morris Motors, maybe..... I need to re-read some of that history, I guess. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Thinking out loud > Today at lunch I grabbed a glass out of my cupboard, one of Ed's MG Safety > Fast glasses. > So I was thinking about this MG slogan. Safety-Fast. > MGs were not the safest cars of their time nor were they very fast. > So who made up this slogan? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon May 18 20:57:46 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 19:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Update Message-ID: <659841.60789.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Well, I actually took the night off tonight and did yard work. I think I've spent every week night & all day weekends in the garage since pulling the engine two weeks ago last Saturday. As of 11:30 last night, the second coat of Magnet Paints' "Chassis Saver" Satin black is on the entire engine bay. The car looks like it is frozen in mid explosion at the moment as I unscrewed everything from under the hood except the brake lines and suspended it all via twine from the ceiling to let me paint under it. Engine is of course on the stand and looking very fine if I do say so myself. Block, head & valve cover are all red - though it is Ford red rather than the MG red. Oil pan, dipstick, oil tube to the filter, and pulleys are all gloss black. intake manifold looks almost chrome after quite a while with steel wool and the wire wheel. Exhaust manifold is flat black header paint. I have spent probably 80 or 90 hours since pulling the engine dedicated to scraping, straightening, rubbing, polishing, cleaning, etc. Does not look like a show car (this is a good thing as I am NOT about to start polishing stuff every time it gets dusty), but it looks WAY better than it did, and all the rusty/greasy/oily/grimy bits are now clean and painted. I also shot a pressure washer thru every water orifice in the block and head till it ran out clean everywhere. That along with the new water pump and newly dipped/cleaned radiator & overflow (and new hoses thanks to Daniel) means it should run much cooler too. Hopefully I'll get everything back in there by the end of the long weekend. Cant wait! David Booker '71 (looking much better now) Midget Long Island From Mjsprite at aol.com Mon May 18 21:10:46 2009 From: Mjsprite at aol.com (Mjsprite at aol.com) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 23:10:46 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... Message-ID: Speaking of famous/wealthy people - a few years ago a guitarist from the band, "Three Dog Night" was on the list. Is he still with us? Mike **************Recession-proof vacation ideas. Find free things to do in the U.S. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-ideas/domestic/national-tourism-week?ncid=emlcntustrav00000002) From shop at justbrits.com Mon May 18 21:18:42 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 22:18:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I don't think Michael is on the Spridgets List anymore Mike, but you CAN check the Membership (IF you have your org. Instructions which CAME with you NEW sub). I do chat with him from time-to-time (including today) however. And if you folks EVER get to catch one of 3DNs' concert, it IS a BLAST, right Brad!!!!! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue May 19 04:05:48 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 05:05:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael can still shred that guitar like I have not seen in a while!! GREAT SHOW On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > I don't think Michael is on the Spridgets List anymore Mike, > but you CAN check the Membership (IF you have your org. Instructions which > CAME with you NEW sub). > > I do chat with him from time-to-time (including today) however. > > And if you folks EVER get to catch one of 3DNs' concert, it IS a > BLAST, right Brad!!!!! > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:midgetsprite-digest at yahoogroups.com > mailto:midgetsprite-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > midgetsprite-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 19 07:37:22 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 08:37:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520905190637w57341a20h65875dbff7d5bc7f@mail.gmail.com> Speaking of guitarists on this List... There was something on NPR this morning about X doing country music? Say it isn't so!!!! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 19 09:16:28 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:16:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... In-Reply-To: <402188520905190637w57341a20h65875dbff7d5bc7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520905190637w57341a20h65875dbff7d5bc7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905190816q32ad15a9ta9d2bcb00dde5b3a@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:37 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > Speaking of guitarists on this List... > There was something on NPR this morning about X doing country music? > Say it isn't so!!!! Did they also mention anything about box cars on the moon and monkeys flying out of my butt...? Seriously. Musicians that do this for a living often change genres when the old one goes out of vogue and they can make money in a new one. Billy is a good enough musician to play any style well. Personally I play rock, country, classical, blues, jazz, and folk and I'm no professional. Give 'em a break. There is good music and bad music in all genres. Besides - fines are double in work areas. (FWIW - Rock is the easiest to play ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 19 09:35:18 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:35:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905190816q32ad15a9ta9d2bcb00dde5b3a@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520905190637w57341a20h65875dbff7d5bc7f@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905190816q32ad15a9ta9d2bcb00dde5b3a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905190835v1169e01cx2f6905b568bb1350@mail.gmail.com> > Did they also mention anything about box cars on the moon and monkeys flying > out of my butt...? Actually, it was just one of the members of X, rather than the band itself. Of course, the radio wanted it to sound as if it was the single most important person in X, but we know that isn't the case. I naturally had to sensationalize it as much as possible... BTW, country HAS to be easier than rock, as long as your boots are tight enough to make you whine. David Lieb From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 19 10:45:30 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... Message-ID: <492521.72167.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That would be The Knitters, which is X minus Billy but + Dave Alvin. --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > From: Jim Johnson > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... > To: > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 10:16 AM > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:37 AM, > David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Speaking of guitarists on this List... > > There was something on NPR this morning about X doing > country music? > > Say it isn't so!!!! > > > Did they also mention anything about box cars on the moon > and monkeys flying > out of my butt...? > > Seriously. Musicians that do this for a living often change > genres when the > old one goes out of vogue and they can make money in a new > one. Billy is a > good enough musician to play any style well. > Personally I play rock, > country, classical, blues, jazz, and folk and I'm no > professional. > > Give 'em a break. There is good music and bad music in all > genres. Besides > - fines are double in work areas. > > (FWIW - Rock is the easiest to play ;-) > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human > stupidity, and I am > not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From richb at u.washington.edu Tue May 19 10:47:08 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 09:47:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit Message-ID: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit (NOSHIT) We are closing in on the May 30th date for the NOSHIT meeting in Everett Washington. I want to extend another call for anyone in the Northwest (and beyond) that would like to come and join in on the fun. We currently have 11 people from Washington and Oregon planning on attending with a growing list of varying projects. The Cast: Paul Asgeirsson Rich Ball Rick Bastedo Dick Biggs Michael Burkhart Bill Gilroy Phil Jones Bill Loeb Bill Masquelier Bob Walker Ed Perez (Ed the third) The Cars and Projects: Bill's 1966 Sprite: Installation of a new windshield assembly (glass and frame) Installation of new tennax fasteners for tonneau cover Ed's 1976 Midget Bleed brakes Install front shocks Check front suspension and align maybe some engine work Phil's 1971 Midget Debug Fuel gauge prep for driving lights install oil cooler Rich's 1976 Midget Complete brake system renewal Front bushing replacement Tie rod end replacement From peter at nosimport.com Tue May 19 10:57:54 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 11:57:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <20090519095723.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> What are ya going to do after lunch? Peter C = At 11:47 AM 5/19/2009, Richard Ball wrote: >Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit (NOSHIT) > >We are closing in on the May 30th date for the NOSHIT meeting in Everett >Washington. I want to extend another call for anyone in the Northwest (and >beyond) that would like to come and join in on the fun. We currently have 11 >people from Washington and Oregon planning on attending with a growing list of >varying projects. > >The Cast: >Paul Asgeirsson >Rich Ball >Rick Bastedo >Dick Biggs >Michael Burkhart >Bill Gilroy >Phil Jones >Bill Loeb >Bill Masquelier >Bob Walker >Ed Perez (Ed the third) > >The Cars and Projects: > >Bill's 1966 Sprite: > Installation of a new windshield assembly (glass and frame) > Installation of new tennax fasteners for tonneau cover > >Ed's 1976 Midget > Bleed brakes > Install front shocks > Check front suspension and align > maybe some engine work > >Phil's 1971 Midget > Debug Fuel gauge > prep for driving lights > install oil cooler > >Rich's 1976 Midget > Complete brake system renewal > Front bushing replacement > Tie rod end replacement From richb at u.washington.edu Tue May 19 11:34:47 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:34:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <20090519095723.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <6A10EF88C379400B99C241E6E2A5478A@psych.washington.edu> Bob suggested we go take in Paul Allen's Flying Heritage Collection, but since it is not a fly day I guess we'll find some more things to fix on the Spridgets. http://www.flyingheritage.com/ In reality I think my '76 will end up getting the lion's share on the attention, but hey, that's why its at my house this time. It's a long list to be sure, but we'll get done what we can, and if I'm very lucky my car will be on the road for the first time in years. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > What are ya going to do after lunch? > > Peter C > = > At 11:47 AM 5/19/2009, Richard Ball wrote: >>Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit >>(NOSHIT) >> >>We are closing in on the May 30th date for the NOSHIT meeting in Everett >>Washington. I want to extend another call for anyone in the Northwest >>(and >>beyond) that would like to come and join in on the fun. We currently have >>11 >>people from Washington and Oregon planning on attending with a growing >>list of >>varying projects. >> >>The Cast: >>Paul Asgeirsson >>Rich Ball >>Rick Bastedo >>Dick Biggs >>Michael Burkhart >>Bill Gilroy >>Phil Jones >>Bill Loeb >>Bill Masquelier >>Bob Walker >>Ed Perez (Ed the third) >> >>The Cars and Projects: >> >>Bill's 1966 Sprite: >> Installation of a new windshield assembly (glass and frame) >> Installation of new tennax fasteners for tonneau cover >> >>Ed's 1976 Midget >> Bleed brakes >> Install front shocks >> Check front suspension and align >> maybe some engine work >> >>Phil's 1971 Midget >> Debug Fuel gauge >> prep for driving lights >> install oil cooler >> >>Rich's 1976 Midget >> Complete brake system renewal >> Front bushing replacement >> Tie rod end replacement > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue May 19 11:44:40 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:44:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] First attempt: Flickr photos - Engine pull Message-ID: <875048.29276.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here is a link to what (with a bit of luck) will be a few photos of the engine pull project. They were in reverse order, but I messed around with them and had them correct. Who knows if they will still be right when you try it. If this works, I'll do more later. http://www.flickr.com/photos/38570110 at N06/sets/72157618397119939/ David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 19 11:45:02 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:45:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... In-Reply-To: <402188520905190835v1169e01cx2f6905b568bb1350@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520905190637w57341a20h65875dbff7d5bc7f@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905190816q32ad15a9ta9d2bcb00dde5b3a@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905190835v1169e01cx2f6905b568bb1350@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905191045h69bdd873w11e88267a1f12463@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > BTW, country HAS to be easier than rock, as long as your boots are > tight enough to make you whine. At least IMHO neither country nor rock are particularly difficult. Jazz and Classical take some real talent, training and ability. Try ad-libing 12 bar arpeggios around the circle of fifths in several keys on your guitar some time if you doubt it. You can do that? Okay, now do it in 7/8 time.... Better yet alternate 12 bar phrases in 7/8 and 5/4 time and modulate to a new key every 4 phrases..... Hell no! I can't do that! But I can hear it when someone really good does it! -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 19 11:47:54 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:47:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <20090519095723.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <20090519095723.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905191047p16b114cfka0dfb567d0902d16@mail.gmail.com> I didn't see Frank's name on the list...... Cheers!! Jim On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > What are ya going to do after lunch? > > Peter C From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue May 19 11:48:15 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:48:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <20090519095723.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <20090519095723.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140905191048l88bce1di9dfa6c93588b134e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > What are ya going to do after lunch? > > Peter, Frank's not going to be there other than in spirit. Hal From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue May 19 11:58:39 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:58:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905191045h69bdd873w11e88267a1f12463@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520905190637w57341a20h65875dbff7d5bc7f@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905190816q32ad15a9ta9d2bcb00dde5b3a@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905190835v1169e01cx2f6905b568bb1350@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905191045h69bdd873w11e88267a1f12463@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905191058t95e1ddo8b7983a638d3e37@mail.gmail.com> > At least IMHO neither country nor rock are particularly difficult. Jazz and > Classical take some real talent, training and ability. Try ad-libing 12 bar > arpeggios around the circle of fifths in several keys on your guitar some > time if you doubt it. You can do that? Okay, now do it in 7/8 time.... > Better yet alternate 12 bar phrases in 7/8 and 5/4 time and modulate to a > new key every 4 phrases..... I, OTOH, would neither know nor appreciate it. Maybe that is why I have seldom cared to listen to jazz... David Lieb From jfishbein at snet.net Tue May 19 12:02:34 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:02:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905191045h69bdd873w11e88267a1f12463@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520905190637w57341a20h65875dbff7d5bc7f@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905190816q32ad15a9ta9d2bcb00dde5b3a@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905190835v1169e01cx2f6905b568bb1350@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905191045h69bdd873w11e88267a1f12463@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <67726AC0-8409-4EA4-9723-A85D052575C9@snet.net> Sounds like a basic description of some Zappa/Mothers of Invention music. Jay Fishbein On May 19, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> BTW, country HAS to be easier than rock, as long as your boots are >> tight enough to make you whine. > > > At least IMHO neither country nor rock are particularly difficult. > Jazz and > Classical take some real talent, training and ability. Try ad-libing > 12 bar > arpeggios around the circle of fifths in several keys on your guitar > some > time if you doubt it. You can do that? Okay, now do it in 7/8 time.... > Better yet alternate 12 bar phrases in 7/8 and 5/4 time and modulate > to a > new key every 4 phrases..... > > Hell no! I can't do that! But I can hear it when someone really good From smarc at smarc.net Tue May 19 12:54:31 2009 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:54:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <4A0E4665.8030905@smarc.net> References: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A025ECF.9010601@smarc.net> <4A089779.5020901@smarc.net> <4A0CE991.9070506@smarc.net> <4A0E4665.8030905@smarc.net> Message-ID: <4A130067.2030406@smarc.net> Could it be something as simple as the wrong TO bearing? By the looks of this http://www.aptfast.com/APT_Parts/Aseries_Parts/a_Clutch_Flywheel.htm there are two different TO bearings, with the later version appearing to be somewhat thinner. Hard to tell exactly from the pictures. I have two different clutch kits, both correct, however the TO bearing from each of them resembles the part show for the 948. Anyone know definitively? Marc wrote: > Filled up the transmission, started it up, and not enough clutch > pedal. No big deal, obviously my shortened push rod is too short now. > Fire up the mig and built it up 1/16", tried again, 2 or 3 iterations > and I've got clutch. > > So I drive it off the lift - seems ok, although the clutch starts > engaging really close to the floor... maybe pushrod could be a lil > longer yet. > > Anyway, it seems ok, so I back it out of the garage, and do a little 3 > point maneuver to turn it around. Due to the slope and position of > other cars in the driveway some feathering of the clutch is necessary, > but nothing I would consider unusual. I stop the car, get out and look > and.... yup - theres smoke coming from the bell housing. Mo%@$F#(^ing > car... That 5 lb maul in the corner seems to beckon... > catch fire and redeem itself... From peter at nosimport.com Tue May 19 13:15:16 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:15:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <4A130067.2030406@smarc.net> References: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A025ECF.9010601@smarc.net> <4A089779.5020901@smarc.net> <4A0CE991.9070506@smarc.net> <4A0E4665.8030905@smarc.net> <4A130067.2030406@smarc.net> Message-ID: <200905191215214.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 01:54 PM 5/19/2009, Marc wrote: >Could it be something as simple as the wrong TO bearing? By the >looks of this >http://www.aptfast.com/APT_Parts/Aseries_Parts/a_Clutch_Flywheel.htm >there are two different TO bearings, with the later version >appearing to be somewhat thinner. Hard to tell exactly from the pictures. > >I have two different clutch kits, both correct, however the TO >bearing from each of them resembles the part show for the 948. > >Anyone know definitively? ====================================== Measuring from the center of the pivot pegs to the face of the carbon: 948cc 1/2" 1098 3/4" 1275 .970" Peter C. From smarc at smarc.net Tue May 19 13:23:41 2009 From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 15:23:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pressure plate question In-Reply-To: <200905191215214.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <468357.83145.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A025ECF.9010601@smarc.net> <4A089779.5020901@smarc.net> <4A0CE991.9070506@smarc.net> <4A0E4665.8030905@smarc.net> <4A130067.2030406@smarc.net> <200905191215214.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4A13073D.3040800@smarc.net> Well, that's not it then - the parts are in spec... Thanks for the info... Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 01:54 PM 5/19/2009, Marc wrote: >> Could it be something as simple as the wrong TO bearing? By the looks >> of this >> http://www.aptfast.com/APT_Parts/Aseries_Parts/a_Clutch_Flywheel.htm >> there are two different TO bearings, with the later version appearing >> to be somewhat thinner. Hard to tell exactly from the pictures. >> >> I have two different clutch kits, both correct, however the TO >> bearing from each of them resembles the part show for the 948. >> >> Anyone know definitively? > ====================================== > > Measuring from the center of the pivot pegs to the face of the carbon: > > 948cc 1/2" > 1098 3/4" > 1275 .970" > > Peter C. _______________________________________________ From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue May 19 17:14:20 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <20090519095723.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <20090519095723.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <621940.87077.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> After we all dine on my fine chili, we're gonna sit around the fire like in Blazing Saddles and admire our handy work. Edward ________________________________ From: Peter Caldwell To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:57:54 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit What are ya going to do after lunch? Peter C = At 11:47 AM 5/19/2009, Richard Ball wrote: >Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit (NOSHIT) > >We are closing in on the May 30th date for the NOSHIT meeting in Everett >Washington. I want to extend another call for anyone in the Northwest (and >beyond) that would like to come and join in on the fun. We currently have 11 >people from Washington and Oregon planning on attending with a growing list of >varying projects. > >The Cast: >Paul Asgeirsson >Rich Ball >Rick Bastedo >Dick Biggs >Michael Burkhart >Bill Gilroy >Phil Jones >Bill Loeb >Bill Masquelier >Bob Walker >Ed Perez (Ed the third) > >The Cars and Projects: > >Bill's 1966 Sprite: > Installation of a new windshield assembly (glass and frame) > Installation of new tennax fasteners for tonneau cover > >Ed's 1976 Midget > Bleed brakes > Install front shocks > Check front suspension and align > maybe some engine work > >Phil's 1971 Midget > Debug Fuel gauge > prep for driving lights > install oil cooler > >Rich's 1976 Midget > Complete brake system renewal > Front bushing replacement > Tie rod end replacement You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mikey at b2systems.com Tue May 19 17:27:18 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:27:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <621940.87077.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <20090519095723.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <621940.87077.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1242775638.6102.76.camel@WebBrowser> I can hardly wait for the news blurb, I can see it now... Chili and campfire, film at 11 Mike On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:14 -0700, Edward Perez wrote: > After we all dine on my fine chili, we're gonna sit around the fire like in Blazing Saddles and admire our handy work. > > Edward > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Peter Caldwell > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 9:57:54 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > > What are ya going to do after lunch? > > Peter C > = > At 11:47 AM 5/19/2009, Richard Ball wrote: > >Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit (NOSHIT) > > > >We are closing in on the May 30th date for the NOSHIT meeting in Everett > >Washington. I want to extend another call for anyone in the Northwest (and > >beyond) that would like to come and join in on the fun. We currently have 11 > >people from Washington and Oregon planning on attending with a growing list of > >varying projects. > > > >The Cast: > >Paul Asgeirsson > >Rich Ball > >Rick Bastedo > >Dick Biggs > >Michael Burkhart > >Bill Gilroy > >Phil Jones > >Bill Loeb > >Bill Masquelier > >Bob Walker > >Ed Perez (Ed the third) > > > >The Cars and Projects: > > > >Bill's 1966 Sprite: > > Installation of a new windshield assembly (glass and frame) > > Installation of new tennax fasteners for tonneau cover > > > >Ed's 1976 Midget > > Bleed brakes > > Install front shocks > > Check front suspension and align > > maybe some engine work > > > >Phil's 1971 Midget > > Debug Fuel gauge > > prep for driving lights > > install oil cooler > > > >Rich's 1976 Midget > > Complete brake system renewal > > Front bushing replacement > > Tie rod end replacement From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 19 17:30:51 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Car Insoection Needed in Phoenix Message-ID: <38168.7088.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Any Spridgeteers who would be willing to inspect a Sprite in Phoenix for me, please let me know. Prefer completely obsessive, hyper-critical, oil leaks are not a given in an LBC, the wiring looks shabby because the tie wraps don't all point in the same direction, nothing-is-good-enough for me kind of attitude. Thanks, Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 19 17:32:53 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Car Inspection Needed in Phoenix Message-ID: <559261.74044.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Any Spridgeteers who would be willing to inspect a Sprite in Phoenix for me, please let me know. Prefer completely obsessive, hyper-critical, oil leaks are not a given in an LBC, the wiring looks shabby because the tie wraps don't all point in the same direction, nothing-is-good-enough for me kind of attitude. Thanks, Ron From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue May 19 17:34:42 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 16:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] RE: Astronaut and Sprite guy in space... Message-ID: <10862.9383.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Jay Fishbein wrote: "Sounds like a basic description of some Zappa/Mothers of Invention music." I agree completely, Jay - Much of Zappa's music was very intricate and jazz-based when you got down to it - as in that old favorite of mine about Gregory Peckary, that gregarious wild swine... (Wonder what ever happened to those albums) - David From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue May 19 18:36:02 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:36:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump Message-ID: <7lku3e$66bhfi@email.mtu.edu> I opened my box of used Sprite parts and found an old cast iron water pump there. I remember it leaking about 35 years ago so it was changed out. Today as I held it in my hand I wondered "what's in one of those - can they be repaired?" So the tear down began. I used a gear puller and pulled the fan mount off of the shaft. That wasn't to difficult although I used a bit of heat. Then I used an aluminum drift and punched the shaft out the impeller end of the pump. So far so good. The shaft came out with the bearing(s) and race attached. Next, I took the gear puller and tried to get the race loose. It was at this step that the explosion occurred that spread shrapnel and grease around the garage. After I settled down, I found the bearing race (this is a piece about 2 inches long and 1 inch in diameter and about 1/16 thick) had split into at least 4 pieces (I'll know better if and when I find the rest of the parts). I found 8 ball bearings and two bearing cages. I think there were 6 balls per bearing, but I'll know better when I find the rest of the parts. I'd like to see an exploded view of a Spridget water pump. I saw an exploded view today, but it went by to quick to study. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From pythias at pacifier.com Tue May 19 19:14:24 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:14:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <47432492.20090519181424@pacifier.com> Hello Richard, my stuff is the lowest priority of all. # 1 is to get those brakes done. I'm assuming by complete redo that you mean even the hard pipes. ? And new master and wheel cylinders ? Is someone bringing a flaring tool? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Man who put cream in tart, not really a baker... From wolf.brent at gmail.com Tue May 19 19:17:19 2009 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 21:17:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$66bhfi@email.mtu.edu> References: <7lku3e$66bhfi@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <62b83300905191817v1d159271o875aaf501b6aa697@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > I'd like to see an exploded view of a Spridget water pump. I saw an > exploded view today, but it went by to quick to study. > > ROTFLMAOPRDML From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue May 19 20:26:52 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:26:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> I won't be able to make it, but like Frank...I'll be there in spirit. Herb From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue May 19 20:29:47 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Can spirits turn a wrench?? ________________________________ From: WFO Herb To: Richard Ball Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:26:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit I won't be able to make it, but like Frank...I'll be there in spirit. Herb You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue May 19 20:51:22 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:51:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A13702A.1010709@comcast.net> Edward Perez wrote: > Can spirits turn a wrench?? > > I am not sure but they can make screw drivers fall out of nowhere when you have been looking for it for 2 hours. Thanks Grandma ;) And I have no idea where it fell from, off a shelf? out of the ceiling? But it appeared as I walked into the garage by falling on the floor. It was missing, I was looking, Spirits! BTW, I'll be there in spirit but at the same time I will be turning wrenches on my current 69 project Sprite. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue May 19 20:52:42 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 19:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <4A13702A.1010709@comcast.net> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A13702A.1010709@comcast.net> Message-ID: <141980.65469.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I can bring some spirits if someone brings the mixers! To: Edward Perez Cc: WFO Herb ; Richard Ball ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 7:51:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit Edward Perez wrote: > Can spirits turn a wrench?? > > I am not sure but they can make screw drivers fall out of nowhere when you have been looking for it for 2 hours. Thanks Grandma ;) And I have no idea where it fell from, off a shelf? out of the ceiling? But it appeared as I walked into the garage by falling on the floor. It was missing, I was looking, Spirits! BTW, I'll be there in spirit but at the same time I will be turning wrenches on my current 69 project Sprite. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Tue May 19 21:00:11 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:00:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update Message-ID: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> Father Jack stopped by last night to invite me to his 50th anniversary of being a priest. He also wants to drive the Holy Sprite to his shindig but wants me to follow closely because he does not want a breakdown but wants to show off his Sprite to all his cronies at the party. My question to whom ever might be able to answer it is.... What do you get a priest for his 50th jubilee? Especially Father Jack, many of you have met him, I can't give him money, I'm sure he has enough religious things, Is a gift cert to a fancy restaurant appropriate? Super charger for his Sprite? :) Are gifts given to retired priests? I do not have a clue. The party is 5/31 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From billmasq at hotmail.com Tue May 19 21:01:34 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:01:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update In-Reply-To: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> References: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> Message-ID: I would thing that a silver "Bugeye" tietack or something similar would do fine! Bill > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:00:11 -0400 > From: spritenut at comcast.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update > > Father Jack stopped by last night to invite me to his 50th anniversary > of being a priest. > He also wants to drive the Holy Sprite to his shindig but wants me to > follow closely because he does not want a breakdown but wants to show > off his > Sprite to all his cronies at the party. > My question to whom ever might be able to answer it is.... > What do you get a priest for his 50th jubilee? > Especially Father Jack, many of you have met him, I can't give him > money, I'm sure he has enough religious things, > Is a gift cert to a fancy restaurant appropriate? > Super charger for his Sprite? :) > Are gifts given to retired priests? > I do not have a clue. > The party is 5/31 > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Storage1_052009 From abcoz at hky.com Tue May 19 21:04:25 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:04:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$66bhfi@email.mtu.edu> References: <7lku3e$66bhfi@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <8BF51D5F6A1D4FB7AE5FF85087541D29@OwnerPC> Tim, I seem to recall seeing water pump rebuilding instructions in the Complete Official Sprite/Midget manual. To do it correctly, you really should have a press. There are some clearances between the impeller and seat that must be gotten just right. The seat should be smooth and free of pitting, if the pump is to operate at rated capacity (I used to rebuild pumps as part of my job, years ago). The bearings and seals should be available at your friendly, local bearing supply house. Actually, I'm surprised that no one has gotten into rebuilding Brit car water pumps...... Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy H. Collins" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump >I opened my box of used Sprite parts and found an old cast iron water pump >there. I remember it leaking about 35 years ago so it was changed out. >Today as I held it in my hand I wondered "what's in one of those - can they >be repaired?" So the tear down began. I used a gear puller and pulled the >fan mount off of the shaft. That wasn't to difficult although I used a bit >of heat. Then I used an aluminum drift and punched the shaft out the >impeller end of the pump. So far so good. The shaft came out with the >bearing(s) and race attached. Next, I took the gear puller and tried to get >the race loose. It was at this step that the explosion occurred that spread >shrapnel and grease around the garage. After I settled down, I found the >bearing race (this is a piece about 2 inches long and 1 inch in diameter >and about 1/16 thick) had split into at least 4 pieces (I'll know better if >and when I find the rest of the parts). I found 8 ball bearings and two >bearing cages. I think there were 6 balls per bearing, but I'll know better >when I find the rest of the parts. I'd like to see an exploded view of a >Spridget water pump. I saw an exploded view today, but it went by to quick >to study. > > Tim Collins From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 19 21:07:21 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:07:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update Message-ID: <951025.43299.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have been to 50th anniversary priesthood celebrations and seen the full gamut of stuff gifted. For someone who's spent a life in public service, the best gift you can give is to show up and show they affected you positively. A restaurant gift certificate (in my case it was opera tickets to the Met) is a nice gesture. --- On Tue, 5/19/09, Frank wrote: > From: Frank > Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Tuesday, May 19, 2009, 10:00 PM > Father Jack stopped by last night to > invite me to his 50th anniversary of being a priest. > He also wants to drive the Holy Sprite to his shindig but > wants me to follow closely because he does not want a > breakdown but wants to show off his > Sprite to all his cronies at the party. > My question to whom ever might be able to answer it is.... > What do you get a priest for his 50th jubilee? > Especially Father Jack, many of you have met him, I can't > give him money, I'm sure he has enough religious things, > Is a gift cert to a fancy restaurant appropriate? > Super charger for his Sprite? :) > Are gifts given to retired priests? > I do not have a clue. > The party is 5/31 > > -- Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Tue May 19 21:16:43 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:16:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update In-Reply-To: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> References: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6A70E427235F4E6987CDA7546B977DFF@OwnerPC> Frank, My guess would be that, with Fr. Jack especially, the old adage would apply: "it's not the gift that counts......it's the thought behind the gift". I would think that personal items would be least appropriate (unless it's something needed for the Holy Sprite). Why don't you & Diane take him out to that fancy restaurant, personally. Although I don't know Father Jack, one of my best friends is our former pastor and I'm sure he'd appreciate that more than a gift certificate. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update > Father Jack stopped by last night to invite me to his 50th anniversary of > being a priest. > He also wants to drive the Holy Sprite to his shindig but wants me to > follow closely because he does not want a breakdown but wants to show off > his > Sprite to all his cronies at the party. > My question to whom ever might be able to answer it is.... > What do you get a priest for his 50th jubilee? > Especially Father Jack, many of you have met him, I can't give him money, > I'm sure he has enough religious things, > Is a gift cert to a fancy restaurant appropriate? > Super charger for his Sprite? :) > Are gifts given to retired priests? > I do not have a clue. > The party is 5/31 > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Tue May 19 21:18:25 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump Message-ID: <572788.88936.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > friendly, local bearing supply house. Actually, I'm > surprised that no one has gotten into rebuilding Brit car > water pumps...... Other than Peter C.? From pythias at pacifier.com Tue May 19 21:22:28 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:22:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <502209434.20090519202228@pacifier.com> Hello Edward, >Can spirits turn a wrench? Those who believe in psychokinesis, raise my hand. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" If all men were brothers, would you let one marry your sister? From pythias at pacifier.com Tue May 19 21:24:30 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:24:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update In-Reply-To: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> References: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1688344028.20090519202430@pacifier.com> Hello Frank, a gift for a retired priest?... how a hooker? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Heisenberg slept here, I think From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue May 19 21:33:29 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:33:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update References: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> Message-ID: <59C49392D687441C9E416B611960F767@Dell9200> How about a Gas "Gift Card" an/or a scrap book of the Holy Sprite Build.... In my neighborhood a bottle of good Scotch would work too! I think the Hooker is not a good idea but my birthday is coming up! Mark Nashville Father Jack stopped by last night to invite me to his 50th anniversary of being a priest. He also wants to drive the Holy Sprite to his shindig but wants me to follow closely because he does not want a breakdown but wants to show off his Sprite to all his cronies at the party. My question to whom ever might be able to answer it is.... What do you get a priest for his 50th jubilee? Especially Father Jack, many of you have met him, I can't give him money, I'm sure he has enough religious things, Is a gift cert to a fancy restaurant appropriate? Super charger for his Sprite? :) Are gifts given to retired priests? I do not have a clue. The party is 5/31 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue May 19 21:45:32 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:45:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update In-Reply-To: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> References: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A137CDC.6080207@frontiernet.net> I would recommend a neighborhood restaurant that serves really good food, rather than a fancy place where two bites of chicken, a spoonful of potatoes, and three green beans constitute a dinner. If he's anything like the priests that I grew up with, he'd not only feel more comfortable, but get a better meal to boot. Kate Frank wrote: > Father Jack stopped by last night to invite me to his 50th anniversary > of being a priest. > He also wants to drive the Holy Sprite to his shindig but wants me to > follow closely because he does not want a breakdown but wants to show > off his > Sprite to all his cronies at the party. > My question to whom ever might be able to answer it is.... > What do you get a priest for his 50th jubilee? > Especially Father Jack, many of you have met him, I can't give him > money, I'm sure he has enough religious things, > Is a gift cert to a fancy restaurant appropriate? > Super charger for his Sprite? :) > Are gifts given to retired priests? > I do not have a clue. > The party is 5/31 From philip.s.jones at comcast.net Tue May 19 22:28:01 2009 From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Phil Jones) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 04:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Second call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen in Transit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <309440128.2015281242793681220.JavaMail.root@sz0021a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I deny you!B My projects have the lowest priority of all!B My projects have such a low priority that not only am I not interested in getting them done, my wife is not interested in not getting them done!B I think.B I think that's what she said.B Maybe I should ask her again?B Dang, that frying pan hurt!B It felt good when she stopped, though. Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 18:14:24 -0700 From: Bill L Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of B B B B B B B B Spridget Handymen In Transit To: "Richard Ball" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <47432492.20090519181424 at pacifier.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello Richard, B B B my stuff is the lowest priority of all. # 1 is to get those B B B brakes done. I'm assuming by complete redo that you mean even the B B B hard pipes. ? B And new master and wheel cylinders ? B B B Is someone B bringing a flaring tool? -- Best regards, B Bill L. B B B B B B B B B B B B B mailto:pythias at pacifier.com B B '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 B "the red thing" B B B Man who put cream in tart, not really a baker... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue May 19 23:40:21 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:40:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update In-Reply-To: <951025.43299.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <951025.43299.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905192240t29ab439bv2f8d24e67d848eca@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > (in my case it was opera tickets to the Met) Man! That Priest musta pulled your a$$ out of the fires of hell!! I gave Father David a BMW motorcycle sweat shirt and I'm not even Catholic! -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From millerls at ado13.com Wed May 20 00:14:49 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:14:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Push Rods References: <4A0399B3.708@comcast.net> Message-ID: Someone recently posted the length of the various engine push rods. I can never find what I'm looking for in the archives so can anyone help me? Another Larry From abcoz at hky.com Wed May 20 04:51:57 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:51:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump In-Reply-To: <572788.88936.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <572788.88936.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9EA1EB5C797D46FDA362F9370F92AE4B@OwnerPC> Peter C is rebuilding water pumps? Great! I haven't visited his website, recently, to be informed/reminded. Guess I need to do that...... Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: ; "Timothy H. Collins" ; "Bud Osbourne" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump > friendly, local bearing supply house. Actually, I'm > surprised that no one has gotten into rebuilding Brit car > water pumps...... Other than Peter C.? From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 20 05:14:42 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:14:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update In-Reply-To: <59C49392D687441C9E416B611960F767@Dell9200> Message-ID: <> You CAN'T "afford" the EXIT of 2nd WIFE, Mark !!!!! (there goes my Sprite, my towers, the repeaters, the business, etc., etc.) !! Frank From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 20 05:20:57 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:20:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump In-Reply-To: <9EA1EB5C797D46FDA362F9370F92AE4B@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <> Nah Bud, same as it was last year (er decade?)!!!! NOT 'announced'!!! er, at least it wasn't LAST week!?!?! From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 20 05:23:01 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:23:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> er Bill, WHY not a WHITE one (to match his car)????????? Anon From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 20 05:25:55 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:25:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update In-Reply-To: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> Message-ID: <> IMVHO Frank, he already HAS your (and the Lady Di) 'gift'!!! Add to the FACT that you are going to be his 'wrench-for-life'. -:) ! Me From pdx.pete at verizon.net Wed May 20 07:09:38 2009 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (pdxpete) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 06:09:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update References: Message-ID: I think Ed is on to something. My suggestion? Shake Fr. Jack's hand and tell him it's both a pleasure and a privilege to have him as a friend. > > IMVHO Frank, he already HAS your (and the Lady Di) 'gift'!!! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed May 20 07:21:27 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 08:21:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture Message-ID: FW: Fast Furniture Everybody needs one. http://vimeo.com:80/1803735 From millerls at ado13.com Wed May 20 01:34:16 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 00:34:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Push Rods References: <4A0399B3.708@comcast.net> Message-ID: Never mind, I found it. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Spridget" Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:14 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Push Rods > Someone recently posted the length of the various engine push rods. I can > never find what I'm looking for in the archives so can anyone help me? > > Another Larry _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 20 10:56:44 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:56:44 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump Message-ID: The early iron pumps could be stripped and serviced. The factory parts manual has an exploded view. In a message dated 20/05/2009 01:36:44 GMT Daylight Time, thcollin at mtu.edu writes: I'll know better when I find the rest of the parts. I'd like to see an exploded view of a Spridget water pump. I saw an exploded view today, but it went by to quick to study From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed May 20 10:57:43 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:57:43 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump Message-ID: Because a new aluminum pump is cheaper than rebuilding an iron pump? In a message dated 20/05/2009 04:04:44 GMT Daylight Time, abcoz at hky.com writes: Actually, I'm surprised that no one has gotten into rebuilding Brit car water pumps...... From peter at nosimport.com Wed May 20 11:17:56 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:17:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump Message-ID: <200905201017862.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Tim, There are several generations of water pumps and their bearings. The one you "took apart" I consider the middle generation. The bearing and shaft are one unit and called a water pump bearing. The shaft typically has 2 races and the outer housing has 2 races with a series of balls in each. These are preset angular contact bearings. They typically are "lubricated for life" as they are sealed at each end. There is also a groove around the outside of the outer race for a wire that locates the bearing into the pump housing. I assume you took that out, else the bearing or casting would have broken earlier. The way you took it apart is correct, so far. Now, to get the impeller off of the shaft! It is usually rather fragile cast iron, and is difficult to take off. We put the shaft of the bearing assembly, once we've broken the cage away as you did, into a lathe and center bore the hardened shaft so that we can remove the impeller without breaking it. New replacement shaft and bearing assemblies WERE available as WERE the original seals. Now, a better seal is available so that we don't have to rely on the cast impeller face to do the sealing, but the installation of it requires some machining of the pump, and impeller. The new bearing must also be modified to fit. But.... it can be done. Then, as Bud said, the clearance of the impeller to the pump body must be set properly. Takes some time and some tooling. The old pumps with a working grease zerk had 2 separate ball bearings, and some spacers and a shaft and they were more rebuildable, but the seal was worse. the newer alumin(i)um pumps use a similar (though not interchangeable) bearing, a different seal, and a crappy stamped impeller. New/modern car pumps are using plastic impellers.... hoo boy, are those hot sellers! I could write a book on this stuff. Peter C === At 07:36 PM 5/19/2009, Timothy H. Collins wrote: >I opened my box of used Sprite parts and found an old cast iron >water pump there. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed May 20 11:36:30 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:36:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump In-Reply-To: <200905201017862.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <200905201017862.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Peter, Isn't there an aluminum water pump available with a cast impeller? I have one in my 1275, but I don't remember where I got it. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Tim, > There are several generations of water pumps and their bearings. The > one you "took apart" I consider the middle generation. The bearing and shaft > are one unit and called a water pump bearing. The shaft typically has 2 > races and the outer housing has 2 races with a series of balls in each. > These are preset angular contact bearings. They typically are "lubricated > for life" as they are sealed at each end. There is also a groove around the > outside of the outer race for a wire that locates the bearing into the pump > housing. I assume you took that out, else the bearing or casting would have > broken earlier. > The way you took it apart is correct, so far. Now, to get the > impeller off of the shaft! It is usually rather fragile cast iron, and is > difficult to take off. We put the shaft of the bearing assembly, once we've > broken the cage away as you did, into a lathe and center bore the hardened > shaft so that we can remove the impeller without breaking it. New > replacement shaft and bearing assemblies WERE available as WERE the original > seals. Now, a better seal is available so that we don't have to rely on the > cast impeller face to do the sealing, but the installation of it requires > some machining of the pump, and impeller. The new bearing must also be > modified to fit. But.... it can be done. Then, as Bud said, the clearance of > the impeller to the pump body must be set properly. Takes some time and some > tooling. > > The old pumps with a working grease zerk had 2 separate ball > bearings, and some spacers and a shaft and they were more rebuildable, but > the seal was worse. > > the newer alumin(i)um pumps use a similar (though not > interchangeable) bearing, a different seal, and a crappy stamped impeller. > > New/modern car pumps are using plastic impellers.... hoo boy, are > those hot sellers! > > I could write a book on this stuff. > > Peter C > === > At 07:36 PM 5/19/2009, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > >> I opened my box of used Sprite parts and found an old cast iron water pump >> there. >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Wed May 20 11:44:17 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 12:44:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump In-Reply-To: References: <200905201017862.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <200905201044482.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Mike, I haven't seen them lately, but yes, Q-H had them I believe. Peter At 12:36 PM 5/20/2009, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote: >Peter, > Isn't there an aluminum water pump available with a cast > impeller? I have one in my 1275, but I don't remember where I got it. >Mike MacLean >60 Sprite >56 BN2 From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed May 20 12:00:45 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:00:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump In-Reply-To: <200905201017862.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <200905201017862.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <7lku3e$66fvk3@email.mtu.edu> Professor Peter Thanks for the great lesson on Spridget water pumps! PPP> They typically are "lubricated for life" as they are sealed at each end. Interesting, I assumed the screw into the bearing area was there for periodic greasing maintenance. Maybe I have the "Old type" pump?? PPP> Takes some time and some tooling. I can't imagine that you'd make any money fooling with them unless someone had to have an exact original pump and then of course the pricing structure would be different. Replacements of the aluminum kind are around $25. That can't be much of your shop labor/overhead time not to mention parts. The internals of the water pump are interesting and it is sad, to me, that they have become throw away items. This seems to be a small picture of the larger problem in our throw away society. The government is now encouraging folks to get rid of their "old" car and buy new - like that's a small, easy to do, thing. I would think that most families think twice and three times before making a purchase of that size. Thanks again. I need to find something else to take apart now. LOL Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From peter at nosimport.com Wed May 20 12:13:00 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:13:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$66fvk3@email.mtu.edu> References: <200905201017862.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <7lku3e$66fvk3@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <200905201113866.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 01:00 PM 5/20/2009, Timothy H. Collins wrote: >PPP> Takes some time and some tooling. >I can't imagine that you'd make any money fooling with them unless >someone had to have an exact original pump and then of course the >pricing structure would be different. Replacements of the aluminum >kind are around $25. That can't be much of your shop labor/overhead >time not to mention parts. Very true (ask my wife), BUT, the cast impellers are more efficient, less prone to becoming shrapnel, and the iron bodies are better suited to the generator, or more importantly, alternator mounting. (alternators typically get tightened more tightly;-) >The internals of the water pump are interesting > ( we should talk about carbon faced seals and ceramic) >and it is sad, to me, that they have become throw away items. This >seems to be a small picture of the larger problem in our throw away society. I agree. reduce, reuse, recycle.... Peter C From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed May 20 12:29:07 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 18:29:07 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Water Pump In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$66fvk3@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <20090520182907.5E167.495203.root@hrndva-web18-z02> I am so sick of the plastic impeller ones. I went through 2 within 50k miles on my 2000 5 series BMW. I found a metal one and its lasted a long time so far. and when the plastic ones break, there is no question what went wrong! Chris ---- "Timothy H. Collins" wrote: > Professor Peter > Thanks for the great lesson on Spridget water pumps! > > PPP> They typically are "lubricated for life" as they are sealed at each end. > Interesting, I assumed the screw into the bearing area was there for > periodic greasing maintenance. Maybe I have the "Old type" pump?? > > PPP> Takes some time and some tooling. > I can't imagine that you'd make any money fooling with them unless > someone had to have an exact original pump and then of course the > pricing structure would be different. Replacements of the aluminum > kind are around $25. That can't be much of your shop labor/overhead > time not to mention parts. > > The internals of the water pump are interesting and it is sad, to me, > that they have become throw away items. This seems to be a small > picture of the larger problem in our throw away society. The > government is now encouraging folks to get rid of their "old" car and > buy new - like that's a small, easy to do, thing. I would think that > most families think twice and three times before making a purchase of > that size. > > Thanks again. I need to find something else to take apart now. LOL > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed May 20 12:41:43 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 14:41:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <4A13702A.1010709@comcast.net> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A13702A.1010709@comcast.net> Message-ID: <728622BDAF44405DBFDE4B7EAA19F69F@Home> > I am not sure but they can make screw drivers fall out of nowhere when you > have been looking for it for 2 hours. I never heard of a spirit that returned a screw driver without provocation. Most keep them until you give up and buy another one. Michael Rowe From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed May 20 12:47:57 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <728622BDAF44405DBFDE4B7EAA19F69F@Home> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A13702A.1010709@comcast.net> <728622BDAF44405DBFDE4B7EAA19F69F@Home> Message-ID: <690018.80455.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> What about that beer that I always seem to "misplace"??? ________________________________ From: Michael Rowe To: Frank ; Edward Perez Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:41:43 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > I am not sure but they can make screw drivers fall out of nowhere when you have been looking for it for 2 hours. I never heard of a spirit that returned a screw driver without provocation. Most keep them until you give up and buy another one. Michael Rowe From grday at btinternet.com Wed May 20 13:06:12 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:06:12 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu><2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com><118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4A13702A.1010709@comcast.net> <728622BDAF44405DBFDE4B7EAA19F69F@Home> <690018.80455.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0E9480219E6F4BA3B111D04366D8F163@dell330> That's a problem for internal consumption. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" > What about that beer that I always seem to "misplace"??? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Rowe > To: Frank ; Edward Perez > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:41:43 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget > Handymen In Transit > >> I am not sure but they can make screw drivers fall out of nowhere when >> you have been looking for it for 2 hours. > > I never heard of a spirit that returned a screw driver without > provocation. Most keep them until you give up and buy another one. > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Wed May 20 17:01:50 2009 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 18:01:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HS1 adjustments Message-ID: <003901c9d99e$f6366570$e2a33050$@net> What are the initial adjustments when starting to sort out a pair of HS1s? How many flats from all of the way up do you start with? Also does it get richer counterclockwise or leaner? Thanks Leo From richb at u.washington.edu Wed May 20 17:22:28 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:22:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <47432492.20090519181424@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <74B45274088C482698D13066F85CCB16@psych.washington.edu> Everything but the hard pipes. New wheel cylinders, hoses, pads, shoes and stoplight switch. Rebuilt calipers by Paul A. New seals in the brake pressure warning valve. That leaves us with the master cylinder. I have finally gotten it apart in preparation for rebuilding. I'll clean it up tonight and take a close look at the bore for pits and scoring. Here's the problem. the rear (primary?) piston has a large score and burr in it. I'm pretty sure this is from my lame attempt to drill and pull out the nylon guide. Does anyone have a piston they are willing to part with if the cylinder is clean enough to rebuild? I should know tonight. I may need to go with a whole new MC set up or another rebuildable core. Any suggestions? Rich Ball ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Richard Ball" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > Hello Richard, > > my stuff is the lowest priority of all. # 1 is to get those > brakes done. I'm assuming by complete redo that you mean even the > hard pipes. ? And new master and wheel cylinders ? > Is someone bringing a flaring tool? > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Man who put cream in tart, not really a baker... From pythias at pacifier.com Wed May 20 17:43:59 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:43:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <74B45274088C482698D13066F85CCB16@psych.washington.edu> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <47432492.20090519181424@pacifier.com> <74B45274088C482698D13066F85CCB16@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <1675719943.20090520164359@pacifier.com> Hello Richard, This is Gerard's baliwick... http://www.gerardsgarage.com/.. call him...no one on the list knows more about master cylinders.. (a bold claim, any disagreements?) -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "The cat seems happy now it's been fed," said Tom purposefully. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed May 20 18:08:16 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:08:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch TO Bearing Message-ID: <37dc82d40905201708w714cdf53x8344333701d3b72b@mail.gmail.com> I heard someone on the list mention that they once installed a TO bearing that was the wrong one and as a result, it was off center a little which caused a huge wear factor to begin right away. Just a thought. . . Kirk 59 Frog Aye From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed May 20 18:13:42 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:13:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Another "customized" Spridget Message-ID: <87E7A47A215A421993E8115BE22A29FA@Home> Check out this Spridget only a few miles from me. I think the top is from a BE. I don't know where the rest came from. http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/cto/1179905163.html Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Bugeye kit Long Island, NY From shop at justbrits.com Wed May 20 18:34:40 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:34:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <74B45274088C482698D13066F85CCB16@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: Rich, did you get my private note sent at 6:31AM CDT this AM ?? Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed May 20 18:51:40 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:51:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit References: Message-ID: <827FC25D16B145768C1819F1353620C1@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit Rich, did you get my private note sent at 6:31AM CDT this AM ?? Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com _______________________________________________ ED, you can usually tell when somebody actually does get your private email solicitations... they don't answer you. Really. It's that easy. Anon From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed May 20 20:31:49 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel at wi.net) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:31:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Spridgets] HS1 adjustments In-Reply-To: <003901c9d99e$f6366570$e2a33050$@net> References: <003901c9d99e$f6366570$e2a33050$@net> Message-ID: <58960.173.109.125.106.1242873109.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Hey Leo, If the jets are centered (piston drops freely when you lift it and let it go (unscrew the caps to check this). With everything tightened up run the jet adjusting nut down 12 flats and that should get you running. Have fun! Dave W. 59 :{) Burlington WI > What are the initial adjustments when starting to sort out a pair of > HS1s? > How many flats from all of the way up do you start with? Also does it get > richer counterclockwise or leaner? > > > > Thanks > > Leo From jfishbein at snet.net Wed May 20 20:30:43 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:30:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Another "customized" Spridget In-Reply-To: <87E7A47A215A421993E8115BE22A29FA@Home> Message-ID: <901849.61704.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> You might want to consider moving. jay --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Michael Rowe wrote: Check out this Spridget only a few miles from me. From spritenut at comcast.net Wed May 20 20:43:56 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:43:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A14BFEC.3020108@comcast.net> Larry Daniels wrote: > FW: Fast Furniture > Everybody needs one. > > http://vimeo.com:80/1803735 > I saw one of these at a swap meet once, it went along pretty good until the wheels wore out and he had some flat spots on em. Then again, a friend of my son built a motorized bar stool, and yes I got to drive it! Just don't think about drinking and driving a bar stool. High center of gravity, extremely short wheel base. It handled like a bar stool! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed May 20 20:42:27 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:42:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another "customized" Spridget References: <87E7A47A215A421993E8115BE22A29FA@Home> Message-ID: <7176480213034656AEADE1F32EA924EF@rwa> > Check out this Spridget only a few miles from me. I think the top is from > a BE. I don't know where the rest came from. > > http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/cto/1179905163.html I wonder WHICH tire is new... From spritenut at comcast.net Wed May 20 20:49:40 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:49:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? Message-ID: <4A14C144.3080507@comcast.net> *http://tinyurl.com/pqe896* -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed May 20 20:53:45 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:53:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture References: <4A14BFEC.3020108@comcast.net> Message-ID: <08DD9E1937534CC8B9319A75E9A2FFB9@Larry> My bar stools don't start moving until way farther into the night than I can stay up anymore. But, I do remember the day when I was younger.... LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Spridgets List" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture Larry Daniels wrote: > FW: Fast Furniture > Everybody needs one. > > http://vimeo.com:80/1803735 > I saw one of these at a swap meet once, it went along pretty good until the wheels wore out and he had some flat spots on em. Then again, a friend of my son built a motorized bar stool, and yes I got to drive it! Just don't think about drinking and driving a bar stool. High center of gravity, extremely short wheel base. It handled like a bar stool! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed May 20 20:56:27 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:56:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RIP: Timing light, recommendations? In-Reply-To: <58960.173.109.125.106.1242873109.squirrel@wm.wi.net> References: <003901c9d99e$f6366570$e2a33050$@net> <58960.173.109.125.106.1242873109.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Message-ID: <22BA4F496AA346AEB95E531A4151ED88@BASEMENTDELL> Hi- Well, my trusty old 30 plus year old Craftsmen timing light has finally bit the dust. It was a no frills point and go model with no advance, but built well enough. I think the bulb finally went due to its change in color, and probably a capacitor at least. Is there a half way decent modern replacement for this (and I'm not going to buy a SUN or Snap On with matching case for $300). I see a lot of no name ones out there between the 40 and 80 dollar range. Worth it or should I start trolling the 'Bay for one? BTW, I have nothing else in the fleet that would require it, nor do the family or neighbors. Chris From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 20 20:58:42 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:58:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture In-Reply-To: <08DD9E1937534CC8B9319A75E9A2FFB9@Larry> References: <4A14BFEC.3020108@comcast.net> <08DD9E1937534CC8B9319A75E9A2FFB9@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910905201958j44cb83fbv5de8841e3eb4c2c7@mail.gmail.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHZoWQpEU2Y From soavero at yahoo.com Wed May 20 20:59:15 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? Message-ID: <773368.30635.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Frank wrote: > *http://tinyurl.com/pqe896* Oh my. Make it stop. You can also do a nice mod, and not waste a Bugeye in the process: http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BrianKraus.htm Ron From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 20 20:59:40 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:59:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910905201959v5f70bc1cl5da324fcb1b97f72@mail.gmail.com> Here is the kit for the hossfly: http://www.hossflyinc.com/home.html From soavero at yahoo.com Wed May 20 21:02:16 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] RIP: Timing light, recommendations? Message-ID: <160102.33149.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have a dial back Sunpro I got at Farm and Fleet I got for around $50 a few years ago that seems to work just fine, although Zoom says never trust a potentiometer. It sees quite a bit of use and abuse. --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Chris Manuel wrote: > From: Chris Manuel > Subject: [Spridgets] RIP: Timing light, recommendations? > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 9:56 PM > Hi- > > Well, my trusty old 30 plus year old Craftsmen timing light > has finally bit > the dust. It was a no frills point and go model with > no advance, but built > well enough. I think the bulb finally went due to its > change in color, and > probably a capacitor at least. > > Is there a half way decent modern replacement for this (and > I'm not going to > buy a SUN or Snap On with matching case for $300). > > I see a lot of no name ones out there between the 40 and 80 > dollar range. > Worth it or should I start trolling the 'Bay for one? > > BTW, I have nothing else in the fleet that would require > it, nor do the > family or neighbors. > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed May 20 21:04:48 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:04:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture References: <5f00d9910905201959v5f70bc1cl5da324fcb1b97f72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <97D9E65CFF2849D2802232D26CAB3B63@Larry> Ya gotta love that wretched excess. Have you seen the guy that hooked up a Hemi to a snowblower? I'll leave it up to you sick bastards to make your own jokes about that. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Spridgets List" Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture Here is the kit for the hossfly: http://www.hossflyinc.com/home.html From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 20 21:15:35 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:15:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? In-Reply-To: <773368.30635.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <773368.30635.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910905202015m741becbdic6f0b73d10a164a2@mail.gmail.com> Ahh, yes, one tastefully done, and one that just makes you shake your head. And then there's the one that is very tastefully executed, but still makes you shake your head: http://www.coupers-cars.com/sprite_restoration.htm From kgrowler at aol.com Wed May 20 21:16:05 2009 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 23:16:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture Message-ID: <8CBA7D99CADF185-A68-2662@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> "My bar stools don't start moving until way farther into the night than I can stay up anymore. But, I do remember the day when I was younger...." But always remember. You're not drunk if you can still hang on to the floor... From derf247 at gmail.com Wed May 20 21:18:31 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 21:18:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910905202015m741becbdic6f0b73d10a164a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <773368.30635.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5f00d9910905202015m741becbdic6f0b73d10a164a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910905202018w11c812afsc032d29866ad3098@mail.gmail.com> I really like the front bumper/light bar: http://www.coupers-cars.com/images/sprite15_small.jpg From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed May 20 21:26:02 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:26:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture References: <8CBA7D99CADF185-A68-2662@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2DF7F345E4224212AF6B1EE15A2D53E6@Larry> My wife doesn't seem to agree with that. Thank God I can fall asleep midway thru that lecture. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture "My bar stools don't start moving until way farther into the night than I can stay up anymore. But, I do remember the day when I was younger...." But always remember. You're not drunk if you can still hang on to the floor... You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From marinaratt at hotmail.com Wed May 20 21:35:45 2009 From: marinaratt at hotmail.com (Ralph Heacox) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 20:35:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <827FC25D16B145768C1819F1353620C1@Larry> References: <827FC25D16B145768C1819F1353620C1@Larry> Message-ID: List Where and when is this NW "meeting"? Ralph, Anacortes > From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > To: shop at justbrits.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:51:40 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed's Shop" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget > Handymen In Transit > > > Rich, did you get my private note sent at 6:31AM CDT this AM ?? > > Ed > Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com > _______________________________________________ > > ED, you can usually tell when somebody actually does get your private email > solicitations... they don't answer you. > > Really. > > It's that easy. > > > Anon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as marinaratt at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd1_052009 From richb at u.washington.edu Wed May 20 23:51:44 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:51:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit References: <827FC25D16B145768C1819F1353620C1@Larry> Message-ID: Ralph We will be meeting at my place in Everett Washington next Saturday the 30th. You should come down and join us. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph Heacox" To: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > List > > Where and when is this NW "meeting"? > > Ralph, Anacortes > >> From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net >> To: shop at justbrits.com; spridgets at autox.team.net >> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:51:40 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget > Handymen In Transit >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ed's Shop" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 7:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget >> Handymen In Transit >> >> >> Rich, did you get my private note sent at 6:31AM CDT this AM ?? >> >> Ed >> Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> ED, you can usually tell when somebody actually does get your private >> email >> solicitations... they don't answer you. >> >> Really. >> >> It's that easy. >> >> >> Anon >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as marinaratt at hotmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > _________________________________________________________________ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria > l_QuickAdd1_052009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu May 21 06:16:01 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:16:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update In-Reply-To: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> References: <4A13723B.30500@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank, I'd only get him a gift certificate to a fancy restaurant only if he likes fancy food. :-) As others have said, take him to dinner at the Yacht club, if he wears ties, a Sprite tie tack, or a Pin for the hat he wears when he drives it. Or something cool for the Holy Sprite. Maybe find some way to make the Antennae into a Halo???? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:00:11 -0400 > From: spritenut at comcast.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite update > > Father Jack stopped by last night to invite me to his 50th anniversary > of being a priest. > He also wants to drive the Holy Sprite to his shindig but wants me to > follow closely because he does not want a breakdown but wants to show > off his > Sprite to all his cronies at the party. > My question to whom ever might be able to answer it is.... > What do you get a priest for his 50th jubilee? > Especially Father Jack, many of you have met him, I can't give him > money, I'm sure he has enough religious things, > Is a gift cert to a fancy restaurant appropriate? > Super charger for his Sprite? :) > Are gifts given to retired priests? > I do not have a clue. > The party is 5/31 > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu May 21 06:19:49 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:19:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] First attempt: Flickr photos - Engine pull In-Reply-To: <875048.29276.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <875048.29276.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Looking good Dave. Wish I could have made it over this past weekend. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 10:44:40 -0700 > From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] First attempt: Flickr photos - Engine pull > > Here is a link to what (with a bit of luck) will be a few photos of the engine > pull project. > They were in reverse order, but I messed around with them and had them > correct. Who knows if they will still be right when you try it. If this > works, I'll do more later. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/38570110 at N06/sets/72157618397119939/ > > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > __________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd1_052009 From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu May 21 06:22:08 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 05:22:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? Message-ID: <136496.22158.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Beautiful car. He runs PA hillclimbs with it as well. There is only one thing I would change, and that is to add 4" additional SS hose to the Weber carb. When the drivetrain shifts in a crash that hose could be pulled out of the fittings and create a massive fuel leak. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Ron Soave wrote: From: Ron Soave Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye? To: "Spridgets" Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 10:59 PM --- On Wed, 5/20/09, Frank wrote: > *http://tinyurl.com/pqe896* Oh my. Make it stop. You can also do a nice mod, and not waste a Bugeye in the process: http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BrianKraus.htm Ron You are subscribed as fastvee at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 21 06:39:09 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:39:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] First attempt: Flickr photos - Engine pull In-Reply-To: <875048.29276.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <875048.29276.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905210539kfd5a398re213dd6db16dba1@mail.gmail.com> HI David, Nice paint job keep up the good work. Lin On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:44 PM, David Booker wrote: > Here is a link to what (with a bit of luck) will be a few photos of the > engine > pull project. > They were in reverse order, but I messed around with them and had them > correct. Who knows if they will still be right when you try it. If this > works, I'll do more later. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/38570110 at N06/sets/72157618397119939/ > > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From nases at verizon.net Thu May 21 06:46:41 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:46:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? In-Reply-To: <4A14C144.3080507@comcast.net> References: <4A14C144.3080507@comcast.net> Message-ID: <087FD9E2-84B1-414D-A3BE-0AA488EFA3D1@verizon.net> 10 sec. quarters. Yahoooo. Not to my tastes though. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On May 20, 2009, at 10:49 PM, Frank wrote: > *http://tinyurl.com/pqe896* > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 21 06:49:56 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:49:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sunbeam Tiger In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10905181934n1296209ftca62a69fa2ab429e@mail.gmail.com> References: <2F369E3A7B03409A9B6C036EF8C5DE71@Dell9200> <2ad6c6b10905181934n1296209ftca62a69fa2ab429e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905210549u454a0783g4c5b8b52dc0253b5@mail.gmail.com> Wow I didn't know that. I was 2 inches from buying an Alpine in that aqua color blue in 78 from the first owners. It was stunning but at the last minute I backed out thinking well it's not a Tiger. Looking back it sure was a mistake because it was always garaged and well cared for at $2950. it was a steal. Hey Mark lots of luck with it they are both cool LBC's. I gravitated to them after looking at our beloved Spridgets at Carlisle last weekend. There were more than usual Sunbeams there this year but far too few Spridgets. Frank I just missed you by an hour or so and only found Biff & Alan when we arrived. Lin On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:34 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > All Tigers came with the 260 EXCEPT the MkII...which were 289. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 21 06:53:13 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:53:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> I love the acronym NOSHIT : ) I laugh like I'm 12 when I even think about it. Have fun boys. Lin On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > (NOSHIT) > > We are closing in on the May 30th date for the NOSHIT meeting in Everett > Washington. I want to extend another call for anyone in the Northwest (and > beyond) that would like to come and join in on the fun. We currently have > 11 > people from Washington and Oregon planning on attending with a growing list > of > varying projects. > > The Cast: > Paul Asgeirsson > Rich Ball > Rick Bastedo > Dick Biggs > Michael Burkhart > Bill Gilroy > Phil Jones > Bill Loeb > Bill Masquelier > Bob Walker > Ed Perez (Ed the third) > > The Cars and Projects: > > Bill's 1966 Sprite: > Installation of a new windshield assembly (glass and frame) > Installation of new tennax fasteners for tonneau cover > > Ed's 1976 Midget > Bleed brakes > Install front shocks > Check front suspension and align > maybe some engine work > > Phil's 1971 Midget > Debug Fuel gauge > prep for driving lights > install oil cooler > > Rich's 1976 Midget > Complete brake system renewal > Front bushing replacement > Tie rod end replacement > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu May 21 06:54:31 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:54:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Update In-Reply-To: <659841.60789.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <659841.60789.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905210554u545f6cccj4e20a0dff475e3bc@mail.gmail.com> And the pics look cool too. Lin On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM, David Booker wrote: > Well, I actually took the night off tonight and did yard work. I think > I've > spent every week night & all day weekends in the garage since pulling the > engine two weeks ago last Saturday. As of 11:30 last night, the second coat > of > Magnet Paints' "Chassis Saver" Satin black is on the entire engine bay. The > car looks like it is frozen in mid explosion at the moment as I unscrewed > everything from under the hood except the brake lines and suspended it all > via > twine from the ceiling to let me paint under it. Engine is of course on the > stand and looking very fine if I do say so myself. Block, head & valve > cover > are all red - though it is Ford red rather than the MG red. Oil pan, > dipstick, > oil tube to the filter, and pulleys are all gloss black. intake manifold > looks > almost chrome after quite a while with steel wool and the wire wheel. > Exhaust > manifold is flat black header paint. > > I have spent probably 80 or 90 hours since pulling the engine dedicated to > scraping, straightening, rubbing, polishing, cleaning, etc. Does not look > like a show car (this is a good thing as I am NOT about to start polishing > stuff every time it gets dusty), but it looks WAY better than it did, and > all > the rusty/greasy/oily/grimy bits are now clean and painted. I also shot a > pressure washer thru every water orifice in the block and head till it ran > out > clean everywhere. That along with the new water pump and newly > dipped/cleaned > radiator & overflow (and new hoses thanks to Daniel) means it should run > much > cooler too. Hopefully I'll get everything back in there by the end of the > long > weekend. Cant wait! > > David Booker > '71 (looking much better now) Midget > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu May 21 07:25:45 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:25:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS shop move Message-ID: <000001c9da17$aa624640$ff26d2c0$@com> The move has commenced, as I've been shuttling stuff every day, but clearly I 'm going to need a LOT of help. A couple guys might be up this Sat. More would be good. please confirm if you're available. After that, every weekend will be shop moving efforts until the end of June, so, if you can help, please let me know. For those of you that don't know, I'm in WI, an hour north of Milwaukee. Thanks. WST From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 21 07:45:46 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 06:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? Message-ID: <878570.39691.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 5/21/09, fastvee wrote: > When the drivetrain shifts in a crash that hose could be > pulled out of the > fittings and create a massive fuel leak. I never thought of such a thing. Good point, and I will be modifying both White Trash and my streetcar this evening! Thanks, John - Ron From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 21 08:02:17 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:02:17 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture In-Reply-To: <8CBA7D99CADF185-A68-2662@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CBA7D99CADF185-A68-2662@webmail-de14.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: You guys remember stuff? > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > "My bar stools don't start moving until way farther into the night than I can > stay up anymore. But, I do remember the day when I was younger...." > > > > But always remember. You're not drunk if you can still hang on to the floor... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 21 08:09:52 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:09:52 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? In-Reply-To: <4A14C144.3080507@comcast.net> References: <4A14C144.3080507@comcast.net> Message-ID: That's about a 2 hour drive from me, ... not that I'm interested. > Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:49:40 -0400 > > *http://tinyurl.com/pqe896* > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu May 21 08:45:53 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We need T-Shirts... and maybe some capes and tights! ________________________________ From: Linda Grunthaner To: Richard Ball Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:53:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit I love the acronym NOSHIT : ) I laugh like I'm 12 when I even think about it. Have fun boys. Lin On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > (NOSHIT) > > We are closing in on the May 30th date for the NOSHIT meeting in Everett > Washington. I want to extend another call for anyone in the Northwest (and > beyond) that would like to come and join in on the fun. We currently have > 11 > people from Washington and Oregon planning on attending with a growing list > of > varying projects. > > The Cast: > Paul Asgeirsson > Rich Ball > Rick Bastedo > Dick Biggs > Michael Burkhart > Bill Gilroy > Phil Jones > Bill Loeb > Bill Masquelier > Bob Walker > Ed Perez (Ed the third) > > The Cars and Projects: > > Bill's 1966 Sprite: > Installation of a new windshield assembly (glass and frame) > Installation of new tennax fasteners for tonneau cover > > Ed's 1976 Midget > Bleed brakes > Install front shocks > Check front suspension and align > maybe some engine work > > Phil's 1971 Midget > Debug Fuel gauge > prep for driving lights > install oil cooler > > Rich's 1976 Midget > Complete brake system renewal > Front bushing replacement > Tie rod end replacement > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 21 09:00:09 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:00:09 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Oh help me! I have a visual mind! > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:45:53 -0700 > From: eap2140 at yahoo.com > > We need T-Shirts... and maybe some capes and tights! From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu May 21 09:07:17 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:07:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Eddie, You're fitting in perfectly around here. :-) Tho you've never answered the standard list questions of: how you feel about cats, guns and Zappa Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:45:53 -0700 > From: eap2140 at yahoo.com > To: grunthaner at gmail.com; richb at u.washington.edu > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > > We need T-Shirts... and maybe some capes and tights! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu May 21 09:53:57 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <910508.42281.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dogs, guns, Zeppelin ________________________________ From: brian S To: spridgets list Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:07:17 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit Eddie, You're fitting in perfectly around here. :-) Tho you've never answered the standard list questions of: how you feel about cats, guns and Zappa Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:45:53 -0700 > From: eap2140 at yahoo.com > To: grunthaner at gmail.com; richb at u.washington.edu > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > > We need T-Shirts... and maybe some capes and tights! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 21 10:03:27 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 16:03:27 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <910508.42281.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <910508.42281.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: But ... that wasn't the question. So you probably get extra points for changing the subject? :) ---------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:53:57 -0700 > From: eap2140 at yahoo.com > Dogs, guns, Zeppelin > > > > ________________________________ > From: brian S > > Eddie, > > You're fitting in perfectly around here. :-) > Tho you've never answered the standard list questions of: > how you feel about cats, guns and Zappa > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > >> Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:45:53 -0700 >> From: eap2140 at yahoo.com From richb at u.washington.edu Thu May 21 10:34:29 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 09:34:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A4592528364442295E18C8E15EB9C18@psych.washington.edu> T-shirts would be cool. Wish we had some of those OSHIT T-Shirts the East Coast guys have. Capes might be fun too, but PLEASE no tights. My neighbors may tolerate being invaded by Midgets and Sprites, but I'm not sure they could handle all of us in tights. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Perez To: Linda Grunthaner ; Richard Ball Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit We need T-Shirts... and maybe some capes and tights! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: Linda Grunthaner To: Richard Ball Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:53:13 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit I love the acronym NOSHIT : ) I laugh like I'm 12 when I even think about it. Have fun boys. Lin On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > (NOSHIT) > > We are closing in on the May 30th date for the NOSHIT meeting in Everett > Washington. I want to extend another call for anyone in the Northwest (and > beyond) that would like to come and join in on the fun. We currently have > 11 > people from Washington and Oregon planning on attending with a growing list > of > varying projects. > > The Cast: > Paul Asgeirsson > Rich Ball > Rick Bastedo > Dick Biggs > Michael Burkhart > Bill Gilroy > Phil Jones > Bill Loeb > Bill Masquelier > Bob Walker > Ed Perez (Ed the third) > > The Cars and Projects: > > Bill's 1966 Sprite: > Installation of a new windshield assembly (glass and frame) > Installation of new tennax fasteners for tonneau cover > > Ed's 1976 Midget > Bleed brakes > Install front shocks > Check front suspension and align > maybe some engine work > > Phil's 1971 Midget > Debug Fuel gauge > prep for driving lights > install oil cooler > > Rich's 1976 Midget > Complete brake system renewal > Front bushing replacement > Tie rod end replacement > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu May 21 10:45:43 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:45:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Don't forget his opinions on DOT 4 vs Silicone, and BEER!!!! On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:07 AM, brian S wrote: > Eddie, > > You're fitting in perfectly around here. :-) > Tho you've never answered the standard list questions of: > how you feel about cats, guns and Zappa > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > > > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:45:53 -0700 > > From: eap2140 at yahoo.com > > To: grunthaner at gmail.com; richb at u.washington.edu > > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget > Handymen In Transit > > > > We need T-Shirts... and maybe some capes and tights! > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live : Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu Thu May 21 11:06:29 2009 From: mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:06:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> So several years ago when I had my Corvairs ('61 Lakewood and '64 Monza Cpe.) and was a member of CORSA they had a collection of 'Technotes' that you could purchase for putting in a binder - they covered everything from tips on how to tune a twin Rochester downdraft to replacing the engine cowling gaskets to deciphering electrical issues. They weren't the prettiest bunch of papers, but they sure were useful. They were community reviewed and sale proceeds went to the club if I recall correctly. It would be swell if such a collection of papers were available for the sprigets - perhaps they are and I have not stumbled across them? -m On May 20, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Peter C wrote: > I could write a book on this stuff. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 21 11:07:32 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:07:32 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Another "customized" Spridget Message-ID: I wonder how long it will take him to ruin his porsche? In a message dated 21/05/2009 01:22:23 GMT Daylight Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: Check out this Spridget only a few miles from me. I think the top is from a BE. I don't know where the rest came from. http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/cto/1179905163.html From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu May 21 11:10:32 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:10:32 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? Message-ID: Car doesn't seem to have silicone hose on it. In a message dated 21/05/2009 03:52:25 GMT Daylight Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: *http://tinyurl.com/pqe896* -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From jfishbein at snet.net Thu May 21 11:14:51 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:14:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Mark, I would suggest you print the useful posts to the board as well as search the archives and print the useful older posts. Then you can categorize them and put them in binders. jay fishbein wallingford, ct --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: It would be swell if such a collection of papers were available for the sprigets - perhaps they are and I have not stumbled across them? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu May 21 11:20:32 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 17:20:32 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't think that you should ever mix them. But, maybe that's just my opinion? > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:45:43 -0500 > > Don't forget his opinions on DOT 4 vs Silicone, and BEER!!!! > > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:07 AM, brian S wrote: > > > Eddie, > > > > You're fitting in perfectly around here. :-) > > Tho you've never answered the standard list questions of: > > how you feel about cats, guns and Zappa > > > > Brian S. > > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 07:45:53 -0700 > > > From: eap2140 at yahoo.com > > > To: grunthaner at gmail.com; richb at u.washington.edu > > > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget > > Handymen In Transit > > > > > > We need T-Shirts... and maybe some capes and tights! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 21 11:44:43 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:44:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> Jay and Mark have touched on a subject which I have been contemplating for a couple of years for the Sprite-Midget Club USA. Such a collection of tech tips, factory notes...etc. would be invaluable for all Spridgeteers and the Sprite-Midget Club would be happy to provide an online access distribution for them. Jay - In this day and age, why store such information on one person's shelf in a binder? Far better to provide an online *help* catalog so people can quickly and easily access specific information on their computer. If a *hard copy* is desired it can be printed. Personally, I take my laptop down to the garage when working so I can look up stuff or ask the group questions when I am in doubt. It would be great if such a repository of information existed all in one place online! Here's a great example of how this can work: http://ibmwr.org/r-tech/airheads/index.shtml Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > Mark, > > I would suggest you print the useful posts to the board as well as search > the archives and print the useful older posts. > > Then you can categorize them and put them in binders. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > > --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > It would be swell if such a collection of papers were available for the > sprigets - perhaps they are and I have not stumbled across them? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From nases at verizon.net Thu May 21 12:08:51 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:08:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Good idea Jim but what will the list have to do when all the questions have been answered on one website? ;) Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On May 21, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Jay and Mark have touched on a subject which I have been > contemplating for a > couple of years for the Sprite-Midget Club USA. Such a collection > of tech > tips, factory notes...etc. would be invaluable for all Spridgeteers > and the > Sprite-Midget Club would be happy to provide an online access > distribution > for them. > > Jay - In this day and age, why store such information on one > person's shelf > in a binder? Far better to provide an online *help* catalog so > people can > quickly and easily access specific information on their computer. If > a *hard > copy* is desired it can be printed. > > Personally, I take my laptop down to the garage when working so I > can look > up stuff or ask the group questions when I am in doubt. It would be > great if > such a repository of information existed all in one place online! > > Here's a great example of how this can work: > > http://ibmwr.org/r-tech/airheads/index.shtml > > Cheers!! > Jim From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu May 21 12:11:23 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:11:23 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handy men In Transit Message-ID: <20090521.121123.23043.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> You know, it took a long time for me to figure out what we in the Rocky Mountain region could call ourselves (IF we ever got together) ; Then it all came rushing back to me like the hot kiss at the end of a wet fist-MOSHIT! Mountain Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit. Now if there were only someone for Kate to get together with for ElkOSHIT. Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Earn your degree and open new doors. Click to browse flexible online degree programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxVwOvOMY6E09nLSSoJfeXbHw 2sN7SopnYdiG2TorL2KnZMgctl0lS/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 21 12:47:54 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:47:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905211147w1147a0d9y4bfc398f042c22a5@mail.gmail.com> Well, there's always guns, cats and Frank Zappa.... ;-) Seriously, my antique BMW motorcycle list has several websites that have been dedicated to all encompassing restoration and maintenance issues for various models and for many years. We still find plenty of stuff to talk about!! You can never have ALL the information that's available and people are always finding new ways to do things, new parts and information sources, new products (oils, fuel, lubricants, books...etc). Also, there are always new people coming onto the lists that have very low knowledge bases who will ask questions and long time listers who have forgotten more than they remember (my hand is up!). When that happens, it is always nice to have a place to point them for the routine information so that we don't have to explain for the 9 zillionth time "How to bleed your clutch", "How to re-pack your wheel bearings", or "How to pull the lump." Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Phil Nase wrote: > Good idea Jim but what will the list have to do when all the questions have > been answered on one website? ;) > > Phil Nase > Quakertown, PA > http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > > > > On May 21, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > Jay and Mark have touched on a subject which I have been contemplating for >> a >> couple of years for the Sprite-Midget Club USA. Such a collection of tech >> tips, factory notes...etc. would be invaluable for all Spridgeteers and >> the >> Sprite-Midget Club would be happy to provide an online access distribution >> for them. >> >> Jay - In this day and age, why store such information on one person's >> shelf >> in a binder? Far better to provide an online *help* catalog so people can >> quickly and easily access specific information on their computer. If a >> *hard >> copy* is desired it can be printed. >> >> Personally, I take my laptop down to the garage when working so I can look >> up stuff or ask the group questions when I am in doubt. It would be great >> if >> such a repository of information existed all in one place online! >> >> Here's a great example of how this can work: >> >> http://ibmwr.org/r-tech/airheads/index.shtml >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu May 21 13:02:46 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:02:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Timing Question Message-ID: <37dc82d40905211202g5bfa90fbn7deff2780d98af7a@mail.gmail.com> List, I have not checked my timing in a while and thought I would ask a quick question regarding. I have a stock 1275 with a Weber DCOE 45 (actually an OER equivalent), electric fan, electric fuel pump, headers and Monza exhaust. (Not that the electric fan or the electric fuel pump take that much stress off the engine to make a difference in timing) - but at any rate. . . What should I set my timing at? Some guy I was talking to the other day was telling me that the further you retard your timing, the more torque you are going to pull from your engine. . . I can maybe see that to a point, but not sure how a 1275 would be affected? Thanks. . . Kirk From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 21 13:24:39 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:24:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Timing Question Message-ID: <190897.63810.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 29 degrees BTDC at 4000 RPM. --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > From: Kirk Hargreaves > Subject: [Spridgets] Timing Question > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 2:02 PM > List, > > > I have not checked my timing in a while and thought I would > ask a quick > question regarding. > > I have a stock 1275 with a Weber DCOE 45 (actually an OER > equivalent), > electric fan, electric fuel pump, headers and Monza > exhaust. (Not that the > electric fan or the electric fuel pump take that much > stress off the engine > to make a difference in timing) - but at any rate. . . > > What should I set my timing at? > > Some guy I was talking to the other day was telling me that > the further you > retard your timing, the more torque you are going to pull > from your engine. > . . I can maybe see that to a point, but not sure how a > 1275 would be > affected? > > Thanks. . . > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 21 13:29:21 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 12:29:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Timing Question Message-ID: <464046.965.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > retard your timing, the more torque you are going to pull > from your engine. If it's cam timing, advance the cam by a degree or 2 to get torque; retard by same to get top-end. With a stock motor, leave it alone. Rom From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 21 13:34:24 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:34:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Timing Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905211202g5bfa90fbn7deff2780d98af7a@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905211202g5bfa90fbn7deff2780d98af7a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905211234h195b88dcgd251b4c88534f6d8@mail.gmail.com> > Some guy I was talking to the other day was telling me that the further you > retard your timing, the more torque you are going to pull from your engine. > . . I can maybe see that to a point, but not sure how a 1275 would be > affected? I believe the guy was talking about CAM timing, NOT ignition timing. From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu May 21 14:00:18 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 13:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Timing Question Message-ID: <432611.10221.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> He wouldn't have meant cam timing because that change won't net more torque, just shift the torque in the RPM range. Now ignition timing definitely affects torque, and maybe what he said is true for a specific application. Just a WAG, If you had a fuel that resisted detonation yet burned at a faster rate you wouldn't need as much timing, and a later ignition might put more force to the crank throw. Nitro methane? Maybe he was a drag racer? The only thing retarded timing would accomplish for us would be overheating. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Thu, 5/21/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Timing Question To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 3:34 PM > Some guy I was talking to the other day was telling me that the further you > retard your timing, the more torque you are going to pull from your engine. > . . I can maybe see that to a point, but not sure how a 1275 would be > affected? I believe the guy was talking about CAM timing, NOT ignition timing. You are subscribed as fastvee at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 21 14:12:27 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:12:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Timing Question In-Reply-To: <432611.10221.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <432611.10221.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402188520905211312v1d1519f5if63672cd087c7fbe@mail.gmail.com> > He wouldn't have meant cam timing because that change won't net more torque, > just shift the torque in the RPM range. Just because someone is wrong doesn't mean that that isn't what he meant. Shifting the torque curve so that it better services the actual rpm range in use by the application can be seen as "more torque". From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu May 21 15:45:41 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 14:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Update (with photos now) Message-ID: <776655.30797.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Linda. I'm actually kind of amazed at how well it is turning out. Not quite up to a Frank project maybe, but what the heck, this is my first Spridget. I actually have to look at what I'm doing as opposed to being able to do it blindfolded and with mittens on... :-) - David http://www.flickr.com/photos/38570110 at N06/sets/72157618397119939/ --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Update To: "David Booker" Cc: "spridget" Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 7:54 AM And the pics look cool too. Lin From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu May 21 16:05:05 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 15:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture Message-ID: <72159.84172.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I saw the episode of "Gears" (Speed Channel) where the host built one of these. At the end, he was popping and riding wheelies in the parking lot with it. He was laughing so hard he almost fell off. - David Booker Long Island --- On Wed, 5/20/09, derf wrote: From: derf Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fast Furniture To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Spridgets List" Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 9:59 PM Here is the kit for the hossfly: http://www.hossflyinc.com/home.html You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Thu May 21 16:08:04 2009 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handy men In Transit* In-Reply-To: <20090521.121123.23043.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1623655851.12865601242943684319.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Wellll. . .if'n we had the guys 'n gals down here in the South close enought to get together in that fashion, I guess we would be So-Shit. --David C. Don't join dangerous cults: Practice safe sects. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Haynes" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 2:11:23 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handy men In Transit You know, it took a long time for me to figure out what we in the Rocky Mountain region could call ourselves (IF we ever got together) ; Then it all came rushing back to me like the hot kiss at the end of a wet fist-MOSHIT! Mountain Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit. Now if there were only someone for Kate to get together with for ElkOSHIT. Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Earn your degree and open new doors. Click to browse flexible online degree programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxVwOvOMY6E09nLSSoJfeXbHw 2sN7SopnYdiG2TorL2KnZMgctl0lS/ _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 21 19:20:48 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test Message-ID: <688634.29000.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I got 100% but sort of guessed on 1 question. I do know what all the flags on a racetrack mean ;-) http://nationaldriverstest.com Ron State #29, 3 miles from State #2 From spritenut at comcast.net Thu May 21 19:29:39 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:29:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <4A4592528364442295E18C8E15EB9C18@psych.washington.edu> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A4592528364442295E18C8E15EB9C18@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <4A160003.4060203@comcast.net> Richard Ball wrote: > T-shirts would be cool. Wish we had some of those OSHIT T-Shirts the East > Coast guys have. Guys My son is now in the family tee shirt business. My grandfather was, my father is, but I am NOT. but my son is following in the family footsteps. Frank Clarici 4th for more info. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Thu May 21 19:43:58 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:43:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A16035E.5020501@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: > Jay and Mark have touched on a subject which I have been contemplating for a > couple of years for the Sprite-Midget Club USA. Jim I like the idea of this. I have a bunch of tech tips all over the net, and lots stored in my tech tips file. I'm sure others have some too. Now you know I am not the most organized person in the world but, if someone on this list can sort of put something in order like start with bumpers and end with a rear end removal, that would be great. Maybe sell it for $5 or something like that for the good of the club. Call it "How Do I fix my Spridget?" Correct way (by the book) Short cuts Modern improvements Nut & bolt sizes Wrench sizes A frame sway bar drilling pattern tie rod removal (both ways) Lots of stuff we all have learned on this list over the years could be very useful to all the newbies and us old farts who are now loosing our minds ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From pythias at pacifier.com Thu May 21 19:42:36 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:42:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <4A160003.4060203@comcast.net> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A4592528364442295E18C8E15EB9C18@psych.washington.edu> <4A160003.4060203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1306503360.20090521184236@pacifier.com> Hello, Before (we) Northwest Spridgeteers deserve T shirts, we actually need to have accomplished .. something..... .. Listened to music Brad recommended, and liked it?... Been treated to a drink at a bar by Ed? Restored a car as fast as Frank? Be acclaimed THE GRAND POOBAH as Jim? Fixed more than 3 cars in a single day? .... at least we have a chance at the last one -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Which is the non-smoking lifeboat? From bkitterer at me.com Thu May 21 19:43:51 2009 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 18:43:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <30C83154-BA4F-459A-BD46-483184BA4F73@me.com> This sounds like a good ideal if someone is willing to put in the effort. You could consider making it available in printed or electronic form with all profits, if any, going to the web master for making this list possible. my two cents Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On May 21, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > So several years ago when I had my Corvairs ('61 Lakewood and '64 > Monza Cpe.) and was a member of CORSA they had a collection of > 'Technotes' that you could purchase for putting in a binder - they > covered everything from tips on how to tune a twin Rochester > downdraft to replacing the engine cowling gaskets to deciphering > electrical issues. > > They weren't the prettiest bunch of papers, but they sure were > useful. They were community reviewed and sale proceeds went to the > club if I recall correctly. > > It would be swell if such a collection of papers were available for > the sprigets - perhaps they are and I have not stumbled across them? > > -m > > > On May 20, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Peter C wrote: > >> I could write a book on this stuff. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 21 19:57:00 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:57:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <30C83154-BA4F-459A-BD46-483184BA4F73@me.com> Message-ID: <5DA733BA1D31488880D2803A60DEBFB7@rwa> > This sounds like a good ideal if someone is willing to put in the effort. > > You could consider making it available in printed or electronic form with > all profits, if any, going to the web master for making this list > possible. Good thing I waited to read the last post. I agree with Bob that any funds should go to MJB for the support of the List. David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Thu May 21 20:00:35 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:00:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test In-Reply-To: <688634.29000.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <688634.29000.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A160743.6000106@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > I got 100% but sort of guessed on 1 question. I do know what all the flags on a racetrack mean ;-) > > http://nationaldriverstest.com > Well I got one wrong, in NJ we are NOT suppose to pass on the right on a multi lane road. Keep right, pass left. Well unless we have one of those left lane loafers then you pass on the right while hanging out of the window yelling obscenities and flipping him the bird. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 21 20:07:32 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... Message-ID: <53768.12609.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Youse guys are old farts - we should just put videos up on youtube. --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Frank wrote: > From: Frank > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] writing the book... > To: "Jim Johnson" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 8:43 PM > Jim Johnson wrote: > > Jay and Mark have touched on a subject which I have > been contemplating for a > > couple of years for the Sprite-Midget Club USA. > > Jim > > I like the idea of this. > I have a bunch of tech tips all over the net, and lots > stored in my tech tips file. > I'm sure others have some too. > Now you know I am not the most organized person in the > world but, if someone on this list can sort of put something > in order like start with bumpers and end with a rear end > removal, that would be great. > Maybe sell it for $5 or something like that for the good of > the club. > Call it "How Do I fix my Spridget?" > Correct way (by the book) > Short cuts > Modern improvements > Nut & bolt sizes > Wrench sizes > A frame sway bar drilling pattern > tie rod removal (both ways) > Lots of stuff we all have learned on this list over the > years could be very useful to all the newbies and us old > farts who are now loosing our minds ;) > > > > -- Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 21 20:16:36 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:16:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <1306503360.20090521184236@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <> Some have, Bill <> Nope (and NO comment). <> GOD NO !!!! LOL <> Yep!!! Me PS: Frank, couldn't Franki just 'adapt' the shirts that Larry did??? Just add a line or 2 + NO ?? From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu May 21 20:20:53 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:20:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905211147w1147a0d9y4bfc398f042c22a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905211147w1147a0d9y4bfc398f042c22a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10905211920m5f0327ccw2c35fecb5ac5da44@mail.gmail.com> Jim, Great format! When will you have the Spridget version up-and-running, Jim??? How nice of you to offer.... Herb From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu May 21 20:26:35 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:26:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <1306503360.20090521184236@pacifier.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A4592528364442295E18C8E15EB9C18@psych.washington.edu> <4A160003.4060203@comcast.net> <1306503360.20090521184236@pacifier.com> Message-ID: As I recall, you said my music sucked..... LOL On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello, > > > Before (we) Northwest Spridgeteers deserve T shirts, we actually > need to have accomplished .. something..... .. > > Listened to music Brad recommended, and liked it?... > Been treated to a drink at a bar by Ed? > Restored a car as fast as Frank? > Be acclaimed THE GRAND POOBAH as Jim? > Fixed more than 3 cars in a single day? .... > > at least we have a > chance at the last one > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Which is the non-smoking lifeboat? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 21 20:26:54 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:26:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test References: <688634.29000.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6F82F34CFFEB43AF9485F3EA1E7BEB66@Larry> Ditto. Got 100%. My doctor squealed on me for being color blind and hearing impaired which forced me to take a live test on the flags to get my racing license. They laughed because I knew them all. Me thinks the good doc din't like the idea of a dangerous hobby. Let that be a lesson to you, Ronald, you hellion, you. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test I got 100% but sort of guessed on 1 question. I do know what all the flags on a racetrack mean ;-) http://nationaldriverstest.com Ron State #29, 3 miles from State #2 You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 21 20:31:36 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test Message-ID: <380316.14144.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I like Porasik's interpretation of a yellow flag a couple of years ago when he learned what a black flag was up close and personal: "I thought it meant 'Pass Ron'". --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > From: Larry Daniels > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driver's test > To: "Ron Soave" , "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 9:26 PM > Ditto. Got 100%. > > My doctor squealed on me for being color blind and hearing > impaired which > forced me to take a live test on the flags to get my racing > license. They > laughed because I knew them all. Me thinks the good > doc din't like the idea > of a dangerous hobby. Let that be a lesson to you, > Ronald, you hellion, > you. > > LAD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Soave" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:20 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test > > > I got 100% but sort of guessed on 1 question. I do know > what all the flags > on a racetrack mean ;-) > > http://nationaldriverstest.com > > Ron > State #29, 3 miles from State #2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu May 21 20:31:44 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:31:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... References: <53768.12609.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Youse guys are old farts - we should just put videos up on youtube. THIS old fart appreciates the concept of random access over sequential access I don't care to sit through an extended session of someone trying to impress me with his extensive knowledge just to fall asleep when he gets to the one bit I was looking for. MUCH prefer leafing through a few pages. David Lieb From richb at u.washington.edu Thu May 21 20:45:53 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 19:45:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A4592528364442295E18C8E15EB9C18@psych.washington.edu> <4A160003.4060203@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank I don't think there would be enough time for your son to produce shirts and get them ship out her by the 30th... unless he is as fast at that as you are with a sprite. And I'm sure we couldn't come up with the artwork quickly enough. Does the artwork for the original OSHIT shirts exist , and would it be available for us to use. Maybe throw a Northwest on there somewhere like Ed suggested. I think this might have to wait until after the NOSHIT is complete and we have earned one of the merit badges Bill named. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Richard Ball" ; "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Edward Perez" ; Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit > Richard Ball wrote: >> T-shirts would be cool. Wish we had some of those OSHIT T-Shirts the >> East >> Coast guys have. > Guys > My son is now in the family tee shirt business. > My grandfather was, my father is, but I am NOT. but my son is following in > the family footsteps. > Frank Clarici 4th for more info. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu May 21 20:50:36 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:50:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test References: <380316.14144.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6E2CBD5D43774F029F9E3882A74042B8@Larry> Quit picking on Jeff. If you keep beating him, he may pack up and go home!! Poor guy. How are plans going for that big Canadian race that youse guys were planning on running? Nova Scotia was it? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driver's test I like Porasik's interpretation of a yellow flag a couple of years ago when he learned what a black flag was up close and personal: "I thought it meant 'Pass Ron'". --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > From: Larry Daniels > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Driver's test > To: "Ron Soave" , "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 9:26 PM > Ditto. Got 100%. > > My doctor squealed on me for being color blind and hearing > impaired which > forced me to take a live test on the flags to get my racing > license. They > laughed because I knew them all. Me thinks the good > doc din't like the idea > of a dangerous hobby. Let that be a lesson to you, > Ronald, you hellion, > you. > > LAD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Soave" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:20 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test > > > I got 100% but sort of guessed on 1 question. I do know > what all the flags > on a racetrack mean ;-) > > http://nationaldriverstest.com > > Ron > State #29, 3 miles from State #2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 21 21:09:32 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:09:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <4A16035E.5020501@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank: <> IMVHO, YOU 'lost' your's YEARS ago !!!!!!! LOL, THANKS for the 'opening'!!!! Anon From shop at justbrits.com Thu May 21 21:10:49 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:10:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test In-Reply-To: <688634.29000.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> And just down the street from Danica !!!!! Jealous Anon From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu May 21 21:54:10 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 20:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Roller vs Carbon t/o bearings Message-ID: <719659.12414.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anybody have bad stories about roller bearings? The Beck/Arnley Clutch kit I bought came with a carbon bearing. Should I try to find a roller one? I never sit at lights with the clutch in so should a carbon one work fine? David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From Matt.Hendricksen at us.qbe.com Thu May 21 22:06:26 2009 From: Matt.Hendricksen at us.qbe.com (Hendricksen Matt) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:06:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod Message-ID: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> Hi all, Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering rack. Thought I'd replace the tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was looking shabby. I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie rod end and tie rod. I tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut but nothing seems to work. Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about screwing up the tie rod. Matt '65 Sprite Madison, WI ______________________________________________________________________ This electronic message from QBE the Americas and any attachment to it is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this electronic message or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender and delete this original from your system. From mahney at gmail.com Thu May 21 22:28:22 2009 From: mahney at gmail.com (Greg Mahney) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:28:22 +0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod In-Reply-To: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> References: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> Message-ID: <780ad83f0905212128k26634541s9f13ae7553aee073@mail.gmail.com> Hi Matt Every one falls for this one the first time they do it. You do need the BFH, but you don't actually hit the tie rod. You hid pependicular to it, hard. The idea is it distorts the hole the tie rod is in and it falls out - amazing but true! Maybe there are more elegant solutions (or more elegant ways of describing it!), but that one works for me. Good Luck! Greg in Western Australia On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Hendricksen Matt < Matt.Hendricksen at us.qbe.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering rack. Thought I'd replace the > tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was looking shabby. > > I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie rod end and tie rod. > I > tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut but nothing seems to > work. > Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about screwing up the tie > rod. > > Matt > '65 Sprite > Madison, WI > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This electronic message from QBE the Americas and any attachment to it is > intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. > It > may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of this electronic message or any attachment is > prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please return it to > the sender and delete this original from your system. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mahney at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mahney at gmail.com Thu May 21 22:29:38 2009 From: mahney at gmail.com (Greg Mahney) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:29:38 +0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod In-Reply-To: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> References: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> Message-ID: <780ad83f0905212129n7a0bf6a1l3b1f0573d03fe861@mail.gmail.com> This is perfect for the proposed website/book on stuff people know! Greg On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Hendricksen Matt < Matt.Hendricksen at us.qbe.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering rack. Thought I'd replace the > tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was looking shabby. > > I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie rod end and tie rod. > I > tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut but nothing seems to > work. > Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about screwing up the tie > rod. > > Matt > '65 Sprite > Madison, WI > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This electronic message from QBE the Americas and any attachment to it is > intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. > It > may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of this electronic message or any attachment is > prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please return it to > the sender and delete this original from your system. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mahney at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu May 21 22:31:04 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 00:31:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... References: <53768.12609.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <40A0B1ECA17847239A6F286F2E887E94@blackbox2> No, there should be a Spridget Wiki. That way anyone can edit it. But searching the list archives always works for me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Jim Johnson" ; "Frank" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] writing the book... > Youse guys are old farts - we should just put videos up on youtube. From mahney at gmail.com Thu May 21 22:36:24 2009 From: mahney at gmail.com (Greg Mahney) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:36:24 +0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod In-Reply-To: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> References: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> Message-ID: <780ad83f0905212136l5297f9afrb020e3dd0782083@mail.gmail.com> And here it is described much more elequently... http://www.mossmotors.com/forum/forums/5701/ShowThread.aspx On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Hendricksen Matt < Matt.Hendricksen at us.qbe.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering rack. Thought I'd replace the > tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was looking shabby. > > I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie rod end and tie rod. > I > tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut but nothing seems to > work. > Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about screwing up the tie > rod. > > Matt > '65 Sprite > Madison, WI > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This electronic message from QBE the Americas and any attachment to it is > intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. > It > may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of this electronic message or any attachment is > prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please return it to > the sender and delete this original from your system. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mahney at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 21 22:45:38 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:45:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... Message-ID: <503553.17957.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Dean Hedin wrote: > No, there should be a Spridget Wiki. > That way anyone can edit it. Oooo! We can add Wiki facts that aren't checked, like Ed is a speed walker who hates public bathrooms and has a tattoo of Dorothy Hamill on his biceps. Too much $4 Australian red wine and "Make the Music Go Bang" in the garage tonight - Ron From davriker at nwi.net Thu May 21 22:48:19 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:48:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Roller vs Carbon t/o bearings References: <719659.12414.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6CF5DC37A5314BD0AF08EA6F47A60253@MAIN> I prefered the "feel" of the clutch when I used a roller bearing, but it made just a little more noise at idle with the clutch disengaged. It out lasted the clutch plate. David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Booker" To: "spridget" Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Roller vs Carbon t/o bearings > Anybody have bad stories about roller bearings? The Beck/Arnley Clutch > kit I > bought came with a carbon bearing. Should I try to find a roller one? > I never sit at lights with the clutch in so should a carbon one work fine? > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2127 - Release Date: 05/21/09 17:51:00 From soavero at yahoo.com Thu May 21 22:51:52 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod Message-ID: <12390.6966.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Or youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ428hwJn38&feature=related --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Greg Mahney wrote: > From: Greg Mahney > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod > To: "Hendricksen Matt" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009, 11:36 PM > And here it is described much more > elequently... > > http://www.mossmotors.com/forum/forums/5701/ShowThread.aspx > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Hendricksen Matt < > Matt.Hendricksen at us.qbe.com> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering > rack. Thought I'd replace the > > tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was > looking shabby. > > > > I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie > rod end and tie rod. > > I > > tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut > but nothing seems to > > work. > > Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about > screwing up the tie > > rod. > > > > Matt > > '65 Sprite > > Madison, WI > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > This electronic message from QBE the Americas and any > attachment to it is > > intended exclusively for the individual or entity to > which it is addressed. > > It > > may contain information that is privileged, > confidential and exempt from > > disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized > disclosure, copying, > > distribution or use of this electronic message or any > attachment is > > prohibited. If you have received this message in > error, please return it to > > the sender and delete this original from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as mahney at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From duncan at pondhop.com Thu May 21 23:01:18 2009 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 00:01:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod In-Reply-To: <780ad83f0905212136l5297f9afrb020e3dd0782083@mail.gmail.com> References: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> <780ad83f0905212136l5297f9afrb020e3dd0782083@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I may be mistaken here but is Matt not describing the locking nut that holds the tie rod end to the tie rod and not the nut on the steering arm. Good description though of a way to pop the end out. That may be his next problem! Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Mahney Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:36 PM To: Hendricksen Matt Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod And here it is described much more elequently... http://www.mossmotors.com/forum/forums/5701/ShowThread.aspx On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Hendricksen Matt < Matt.Hendricksen at us.qbe.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering rack. Thought I'd replace the > tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was looking shabby. > > I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie rod end and tie rod. > I > tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut but nothing seems to > work. > Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about screwing up the tie > rod. > > Matt > '65 Sprite > Madison, WI > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This electronic message from QBE the Americas and any attachment to it is > intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. > It > may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of this electronic message or any attachment is > prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please return it to > the sender and delete this original from your system. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mahney at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.35/2124 - Release Date: 05/21/09 06:22:00 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu May 21 23:04:46 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 01:04:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod References: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> Message-ID: <8761E13B80AF42BAB5F24264C5CE8AD6@blackbox2> Just did this 3 days ago, although mine were not too rusted. If you have'nt done so, remove the rack from the car. It's pretty easy. Before you remove the ends, count the exposed threads so you can get them close to where they were when you re-assemble (or measure with a caliper) I grabbed the tie rods in the bench vise. I tightened the vise pretty hard. I then took a big adjustable to the locking nut and unscrewed both the nut and the tie rod end together. The tie rod bars are pretty tough. The vise jaws did not leave any marks. Like the old saying, give me a long enough lever and a place to stand... My old boots had not yet ripped open. I was pleasently suprized to see everything in good condition inside. In any case, I wiped off the old grease and slathered some Super Lube grease on the inner ball and the exposed portions of the rack gear. When you put the new boots on, put a little grease on the inside of the clamp areas so they slide on easy. If you are feeling ambitious (like I was), remove the aluminum supports and give them a light wire brushing. Strip and paint the rack and tie rods black, and zinc plate all the bolts and clamps. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hendricksen Matt" Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod > Hi all, > > Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering rack. Thought I'd replace the > tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was looking shabby. > > I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie rod end and tie rod. I > tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut but nothing seems to work. > Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about screwing up the tie > rod. > > Matt > '65 Sprite > Madison, WI > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This electronic message from QBE the Americas and any attachment to it is > intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It > may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from > disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, > distribution or use of this electronic message or any attachment is > prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please return it to > the sender and delete this original from your system. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlh2001 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 21 23:11:59 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 00:11:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <205cef430905210553p7bad4cceq3b7c85224d5529fa@mail.gmail.com> <517479.91132.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A4592528364442295E18C8E15EB9C18@psych.washington.edu> <4A160003.4060203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905212211s268dd840hd7af5af52d99c288@mail.gmail.com> There is an easy solution to all this. There is an Eastern OSHIT group so there can easily be a Northwestern OSHIT group, Southern OSHIT group, Western OSHIT group, Gulf Coast OSHIT group, North Central OSHIT group, Great Lakes OSHIT group, Midwest OSHIT group, Heartland OSHIT group, Rocky Mountain OSHIT group, Southwest OSHIT group, Southeast OSHIT group... I could go on, but you get the idea. OSHIT is the national founded by the Northeast guys (Frank, et al). Point is, if Frank is willing, the artwork applies to all and only a minor change in the text is needed on the shirts. Right, Frank? Didn't know you were the originator of a national movement, did you buddy! When we finally get moved to Georgia, I'll team up with some of the others down there like Jack Orkin and we'll form the GOSHIT chapter.... Hot $hit!! (Would that be the Hot Springs, AR chapter?) Department Of Governmental Spridget Handymen In Transit...... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Frank > I don't think there would be enough time for your son to produce shirts and > get them ship out her by the 30th... unless he is as fast at that as you are > with a sprite. And I'm sure we couldn't come up with the artwork quickly > enough. Does the artwork for the original OSHIT shirts exist , and would it > be available for us to use. Maybe throw a Northwest on there somewhere like > Ed suggested. I think this might have to wait until after the NOSHIT is > complete and we have earned one of the merit badges Bill named. > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" > To: "Richard Ball" ; "Frank Clarici" < > clarici at comcast.net> > Cc: "Edward Perez" ; > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget > Handymen In Transit > > > > Richard Ball wrote: >> >>> T-shirts would be cool. Wish we had some of those OSHIT T-Shirts the >>> East >>> Coast guys have. >>> >> Guys >> My son is now in the family tee shirt business. >> My grandfather was, my father is, but I am NOT. but my son is following in >> the family footsteps. >> Frank Clarici 4th for more info. >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> My own Fleet of Sprites >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu May 21 23:16:25 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 01:16:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... References: <503553.17957.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yea, your right, it's probably better to have some sort of control freak put up a web site where the content never gets updated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] writing the book... > --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Dean Hedin wrote: >> No, there should be a Spridget Wiki. >> That way anyone can edit it. > > Oooo! We can add Wiki facts that aren't checked, like Ed is a speed walker who hates public bathrooms and has a tattoo of Dorothy > Hamill on his biceps. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu May 21 23:38:10 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 00:38:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10905211920m5f0327ccw2c35fecb5ac5da44@mail.gmail.com> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905211147w1147a0d9y4bfc398f042c22a5@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10905211920m5f0327ccw2c35fecb5ac5da44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905212238p490aff4fo3bdbb3a3cadd612e@mail.gmail.com> All, I am presently maintaining the content on the club website at: www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org Go look at the "Resources" page from the top menu. That's where this would go and it would look very much like the Tech Tips page for BMW motorcycles that I sent out. I envision individuals submitting Tech articles with and without pictures and/or videos which I can then assemble into a table of contents much like Frank suggests. My thought is to break it down by systems for the Spridget. IE: Chassis, Brakes, Drive Train, Wheels, Clutch, Dashboard, Interior, Wiring and Electrical, Engine, Cooling System... you get the idea. I am glad to make the contribution of assembling the tech tips pages for easy access if all of you Presidents are willing to send your tips in to SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com While youtube videos are nice, it is very difficult to go into great detail with them. Also, I'm not sure we want to market them on CD or DVD. A lot of legal problems arise from that. I feel they should just be available to enthusiasts as free links on the website. Wiki is a real problem. There are already Wiki pages for the Sprite and the Midget. Anyone can get into Wiki and make subtle changes which might cause problems. Think about it. What if someone malicious edited the Wiki for, say, valve clearances? We could have some damaged engines out there for people who don't know better. Better to link from Wiki to the club resources page I think. Much easier to precent malicious attacks. Finally, if we do this, (and I believe we should) then we will need a team of experts to vet each tech tip for accuracy before it is cleared to go on the site. We should have about 5 *experts* willing to review the tech tips. Who volunteers? ;-) This will take a few years to grow a good set of Tech Tips and will be an ongoing project for many years to come. Long after some of us Old Fa*ts are gone. And it will be a great legacy for new generations of Spridgeteers. Cheers!! OF Jim On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:20 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Jim, > > Great format! > > When will you have the Spridget version up-and-running, Jim??? > > How nice of you to offer.... > > Herb -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From stargazer1 at cox.net Thu May 21 23:44:14 2009 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:44:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <40A0B1ECA17847239A6F286F2E887E94@blackbox2> References: <53768.12609.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <40A0B1ECA17847239A6F286F2E887E94@blackbox2> Message-ID: <4A163BAE.8090408@cox.net> Dean Hedin wrote: > No, there should be a Spridget Wiki. > That way anyone can edit it. > I like the idea of a Spridget Wiki. We can add various bits of experience as we go along too. Cheers, Dave Ambrose From stargazer1 at cox.net Thu May 21 23:57:24 2009 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 22:57:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tie rod end boots Message-ID: <4A163EC4.6050605@cox.net> My son and I inspected his tie rod end boots a few weeks ago and were somewhat dismayed to discover that both sides had pretty much disintegrated. They're only a couple of years old. Did we just get some bad ones, or is this a more systemic problem? We're in San Diego, and I don't think the air pollution is **that** bad, Thanks, Dave Ambrose From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri May 22 00:16:38 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 23:16:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905212238p490aff4fo3bdbb3a3cadd612e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905211147w1147a0d9y4bfc398f042c22a5@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10905211920m5f0327ccw2c35fecb5ac5da44@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905212238p490aff4fo3bdbb3a3cadd612e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10905212316g4d02e011y3e0350e8a340e4e1@mail.gmail.com> Jim, Your site could be the new "puddle jumper". Great idea. On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > All, > > I am presently maintaining the content on the club website at: > www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org > > Go look at the "Resources" page from the top menu. That's where this would > go and it would look very much like the Tech Tips page for BMW motorcycles > that I sent out. I envision individuals submitting Tech articles with and > without pictures and/or videos which I can then assemble into a table of > contents much like Frank suggests. My thought is to break it down by > systems > for the Spridget. IE: Chassis, Brakes, Drive Train, Wheels, Clutch, > Dashboard, Interior, Wiring and Electrical, Engine, Cooling System... you > get the idea. > > I am glad to make the contribution of assembling the tech tips pages for > easy access if all of you Presidents are willing to send your tips in to > SpriteMidgetClub at gmail.com > > While youtube videos are nice, it is very difficult to go into great detail > with them. Also, I'm not sure we want to market them on CD or DVD. A lot > of > legal problems arise from that. I feel they should just be available to > enthusiasts as free links on the website. Wiki is a real problem. There > are > already Wiki pages for the Sprite and the Midget. Anyone can get into Wiki > and make subtle changes which might cause problems. Think about it. What if > someone malicious edited the Wiki for, say, valve clearances? We could have > some damaged engines out there for people who don't know better. Better to > link from Wiki to the club resources page I think. Much easier to precent > malicious attacks. > > Finally, if we do this, (and I believe we should) then we will need a team > of experts to vet each tech tip for accuracy before it is cleared to go on > the site. We should have about 5 *experts* willing to review the tech tips. > Who volunteers? ;-) > > This will take a few years to grow a good set of Tech Tips and will be an > ongoing project for many years to come. Long after some of us Old Fa*ts are > gone. And it will be a great legacy for new generations of Spridgeteers. > > Cheers!! > OF Jim > > On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:20 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > > > Jim, > > > > Great format! > > > > When will you have the Spridget version up-and-running, Jim??? > > > > How nice of you to offer.... > > > > Herb > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am > not > sure about the former. - Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 22 00:31:05 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 01:31:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tie rod end boots In-Reply-To: <4A163EC4.6050605@cox.net> References: <4A163EC4.6050605@cox.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905212331t53cc5f4fr62b7c878fd18783e@mail.gmail.com> Dave, Its the cheap $hit rubber we are getting nowadays. Everything rubber that I've bought in the past 5 or so years has been absolute crap. It either doesn't fit or it pulls apart when stretched or rots out in short order. We had the same problem with a lot of the rubber that we got for the Holy Sprite project. I actually have a set of tie rod end boots still in the boxes which have been on a garage shelf for 4 years. I took them down the other day and there are already cracks around the small end!! They haven't even been on the car! Cheap a$$ Chinese $hit!! The only real blessing has been the Silicone radiator hoses I got from Daniel Stapleton. They are superb!! Cheers!! Jim P.S. Frank will be along in a minute to provide more cursing and yelling about cheap $hit rubber.... ;-) On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 12:57 AM, David Ambrose wrote: > My son and I inspected his tie rod end boots a few weeks ago and were > somewhat dismayed to discover that both sides had pretty much disintegrated. > They're only a couple of years old. Did we just get some bad ones, or is > this a more systemic problem? > > We're in San Diego, and I don't think the air pollution is **that** bad, > > Thanks, > Dave Ambrose > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 22 02:25:02 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 04:25:02 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In T... Message-ID: Stockings? In a message dated 21/05/2009 17:39:21 GMT Daylight Time, richb at u.washington.edu writes: but PLEASE no tights From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 22 02:30:56 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 03:30:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <40A0B1ECA17847239A6F286F2E887E94@blackbox2> Message-ID: Dean, SHAME on you !!!!!!! You are ACTUALLY espousing the.... <> K.I.S.S. Rule !!!!! Oh, the SHAME of it all !!!!! YOU should be asham..... er, never mind I must be in error again !!!! LMAO & THANKS !!!!! From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 22 02:29:41 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 04:29:41 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] RIP: Timing light, recommendations? Message-ID: I bought a s/h Snap-On and been really pleased with it. In a message dated 21/05/2009 03:56:44 GMT Daylight Time, cmanuel at wi.rr.com writes: Is there a half way decent modern replacement for this (and I'm not going to buy a SUN or Snap On with matching case for $300). From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri May 22 02:31:22 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 04:31:22 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? Message-ID: For a few extra bucks you can install a dry break coupling with lanyard pulls like the pro cars have for that very reason. Weslake-Monza1330 who might become Janspeed-Monza 1330 In a message dated 21/05/2009 14:52:54 GMT Daylight Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: --- On Thu, 5/21/09, fastvee wrote: > When the drivetrain shifts in a crash that hose could be > pulled out of the > fittings and create a massive fuel leak. I never thought of such a thing. Good point, and I will be modifying both White Trash and my streetcar this evening! Thanks, John - Ron From shop at justbrits.com Fri May 22 03:39:41 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 04:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905212211s268dd840hd7af5af52d99c288@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Lemme see (and IIRC): <> You ARE a RETIRED U.S. Federal Weather Person, right Jim ??? You supposedly KNOW the United States, right?? Just HOW did you RE-locate NJ/PA to the NE?????? Bet THOSE folks are irate!!! PLEASE 'splain !!!!!!!! I am sure even the Lady Di would LOVE to know HOW she got MOVED !!!!!! From grday at btinternet.com Fri May 22 04:16:01 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:16:01 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In T... References: Message-ID: Are you referring to the 'Naughty Organization of Stockinet Handymen In Tights'? Sorry, should not have thought it I won't even sign it..... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In T... > Stockings? > > In a message dated 21/05/2009 17:39:21 GMT Daylight Time, > richb at u.washington.edu writes: > > but PLEASE no tights > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 22 04:53:40 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 03:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... Message-ID: <787350.95088.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Dean Hedin wrote: > Yea, your right, it's probably better > to have some sort of control freak put up a web site where > the content never gets updated. As long as he or she has a sense of humor. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 22 05:24:05 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 04:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... Message-ID: <482063.52068.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Ron Soave wrote: > As long as he or she has a sense of humor. That looked heavy handed in print - I should explain a bit - On Tina Fey's "30 Rock" one of the actors get s part as Janis Joplin in a movie, and wants to study her and act like her to get in character. One of the writers takes over the Janis Wiki page and starts out with post that Joplin was a speed-walker who head public bathrooms, and the actor complies 100% with what's on Wiki. It progresses, culminating with a tattoo of "I Suck" on her forehead, and a ritual involving a kitten. Anyway, it was hilarious and for some reason made me think of Ed (maybe it was Boone' Farm, Ed!). Ron From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri May 22 05:48:43 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 04:48:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Driver's test Message-ID: <754002.80567.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 5/21/09, Larry Daniels wrote: My doctor squealed on me for being color blind and hearing impaired which forced me to take a live test on the flags to get my racing license. They laughed because I knew them all. Yes that damn Ishihara test book! I have a mild red/green deficiency and can pick out those colors all day long, but cannot find the numbers on some of those tests, even when they tell me what it is. On track the only time I have any trouble is with a yellow tinted visor and the flag is a stationary yellow. It can look white on overcast days. John Fogelsville, PA From wmseverin at charter.net Fri May 22 06:31:55 2009 From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 07:31:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SOS shop move efforts Message-ID: <010801c9dad9$4ac6f100$e054d300$@net> Y'all, I have one confirmed for tomorrow, and a couple more possible. starting at 9AM. Every weekend in June is likely to be part of the plan until it's done, so, if you think you can help, please let me know. I am in central WI, an hour north of Milwaukee. Thanks. WST From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 22 07:30:43 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 08:30:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Roller vs Carbon t/o bearings In-Reply-To: <6CF5DC37A5314BD0AF08EA6F47A60253@MAIN> References: <719659.12414.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <6CF5DC37A5314BD0AF08EA6F47A60253@MAIN> Message-ID: <402188520905220630s353fa00ex6e0bf4339949a012@mail.gmail.com> >> Anybody have bad stories about roller bearings? My first Midget, a 74, came with one from the PO. I found out when I pulled the engine and trans in order to install a trans that had a funtional 3rd gear. I replaced the rest of the clutch as long as I was in there, but left the roller TO. Never a lick of trouble. Never have put in a carbon one, so my opinion may not be particularly valid, especially since I vividly recal pulling the lump on my 72 JUST to change a broken carbon TO! IMHO, like so many other Spridget parts, the OEM carbon units were ok, but the ones you buy now are not up to the OEM standard and I would not fit one. The rollers are out of production to the best of my knowledge, but you can still find them occasionally. Cheap at twice the price. David Lieb From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 22 08:10:56 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:10:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod In-Reply-To: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.co m> References: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> Message-ID: <200905220711993.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Matt, Did you undo the end from the steering arm yet? Do that first, as we discussed, then hold the jam nut and turn the tie rod end off. You needn't remove the jam nut to change the gaitor, AND you can get just the tie rod end boot, if that's all that's needed. Peter C === At 11:06 PM 5/21/2009, Hendricksen Matt wrote: >Hi all, > >Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering rack. Thought I'd replace the >tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was looking shabby. > >I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie rod end and tie rod. I >tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut but nothing seems to work. >Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about screwing up the tie >rod. > >Matt >'65 Sprite >Madison, WI From Matt.Hendricksen at us.qbe.com Fri May 22 08:48:45 2009 From: Matt.Hendricksen at us.qbe.com (Hendricksen Matt) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:48:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod In-Reply-To: <200905220711993.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B4100603@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> <200905220711993.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <8723EB8C1F102440B1283A51A675A4B40237C50C@QMAIL1.gc.win-na.com> Thanks everyone for the tips. Yes, I was able to remove the TRE from the steering arm. Just wasn't able to remove the jam nut or TRE from the tie rod. I tried twisting the TRE and holding the nut, also tried clamping the tie rod and turning the nut, but no movement there either. Perhaps I need to follow Dean's lead and remove the whole darn rack. Matt '65 Sprite Madison, WI -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:11 AM To: Hendricksen Matt; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod Matt, Did you undo the end from the steering arm yet? Do that first, as we discussed, then hold the jam nut and turn the tie rod end off. You needn't remove the jam nut to change the gaitor, AND you can get just the tie rod end boot, if that's all that's needed. Peter C === At 11:06 PM 5/21/2009, Hendricksen Matt wrote: >Hi all, > >Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering rack. Thought I'd replace the >tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was looking shabby. > >I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie rod end and tie rod. I >tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut but nothing seems to work. >Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about screwing up the tie >rod. > >Matt >'65 Sprite >Madison, WI ______________________________________________________________________ This electronic message from QBE the Americas and any attachment to it is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this electronic message or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender and delete this original from your system. From stevenm at optonline.net Fri May 22 09:36:53 2009 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:36:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <30C83154-BA4F-459A-BD46-483184BA4F73@me.com> Message-ID: <6169D30536C54BE982F262CF90DA3CE7@1705n3> One can of course just search the archives of this list at http://www.team.net/archive/spridgets/ , or use this site that searches the yahoo groups: http://lbc.gotstogo.com/weblogx/search-lbc-advanced.php . On the other hand, the editor of such a book will be able to pick and choose amongst the best advice. Steve www.1978mgmidget.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] writing the book... > This sounds like a good ideal if someone is willing to put in the > effort. > > You could consider making it available in printed or electronic form > with all profits, if any, going to the web master for making this > list possible. > > my two cents > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > On May 21, 2009, at 10:06 AM, Mark A. O'Neil wrote: > >> So several years ago when I had my Corvairs ('61 Lakewood and '64 >> Monza Cpe.) and was a member of CORSA they had a collection of >> 'Technotes' that you could purchase for putting in a binder - they >> covered everything from tips on how to tune a twin Rochester >> downdraft to replacing the engine cowling gaskets to deciphering >> electrical issues. >> >> They weren't the prettiest bunch of papers, but they sure were >> useful. They were community reviewed and sale proceeds went to the >> club if I recall correctly. >> >> It would be swell if such a collection of papers were available for >> the sprigets - perhaps they are and I have not stumbled across them? >> >> -m >> >> >> On May 20, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Peter C wrote: >> >>> I could write a book on this stuff. From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Fri May 22 09:53:31 2009 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (BellSouth EMail) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 11:53:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <4A16035E.5020501@comcast.net> Message-ID: I would surely buy one! Bobby Godwin -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:44 PM To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] writing the book... Jim Johnson wrote: > Jay and Mark have touched on a subject which I have been contemplating for a > couple of years for the Sprite-Midget Club USA. Jim I like the idea of this. I have a bunch of tech tips all over the net, and lots stored in my tech tips file. I'm sure others have some too. Now you know I am not the most organized person in the world but, if someone on this list can sort of put something in order like start with bumpers and end with a rear end removal, that would be great. Maybe sell it for $5 or something like that for the good of the club. Call it "How Do I fix my Spridget?" Correct way (by the book) Short cuts Modern improvements Nut & bolt sizes Wrench sizes A frame sway bar drilling pattern tie rod removal (both ways) Lots of stuff we all have learned on this list over the years could be very useful to all the newbies and us old farts who are now loosing our minds ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites You are subscribed as bogodwin at bellsouth.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri May 22 11:40:58 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:40:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Roller bearing Message-ID: <37dc82d40905221040r21202859s72f5a0dc4a85f304@mail.gmail.com> Someone on the list mentioned installing a Roller Bearing that blew up after a couple thousand miles and was surprised it went that long. . it was just a bit off center. . in effect acting like the movement of a DA sander against the clutch springs, or acting like a carbon bearing with no carbon surface since it was not able to turn at the correct speed. My old VW when I was a kid, a 1960 that I wish I had kept (now that they are collectible) had the same type of carbon bearing, and it held up for years of driving. My dad always drilled it into me to keep my foot off the clutch at lights and not to rest my foot on the clutch, or even touch it with my foot while driving in gear. My current carbon is doing very well. . . Kirk From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri May 22 11:53:27 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 10:53:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List Message-ID: <37dc82d40905221053g752a66b3v6c54dc85bae76ffc@mail.gmail.com> The one thing I like about not having a reference list for gear head questions is the dynamic real time response I get when I ask questions of the list. I always get quick help. . and there are times that others chime in with a similar but different approach. . . or more info that might not have been saved to a ready made list. I also like the answers that generate friendly debate over how an issue might be approached. Please do not throw flames at me for being contrary, but this is such a great list that I am not sure that a ready made electronic access file would be able to add that much? Kirk From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 22 12:04:47 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:04:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0905212211s268dd840hd7af5af52d99c288@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905221104m32843d95v5f483b7409260a4c@mail.gmail.com> Well, draw a north-south line through the middle of the US. Now draw an east-west line through the middle of the US. Going Clockwise from New Joisey you now have NE, SE, SW and NW. Anything north of the Mason-Dixon line is NORTH. Anything east of the Mississippi is East - ergo, New Jersey and Pennsylvania is the Northeast. I grew up in New York state on the Pennsylvania border north of Scranton-Wilkes Barre and in the NYC area so I do know something about the area. By the way... can you read this without all the punctuation marks? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Ed's Shop wrote: > Lemme see (and IIRC): > > < Northeast guys (Frank, et al).>> > > You ARE a RETIRED U.S. Federal Weather Person, right Jim ??? > You supposedly KNOW the United States, right?? > > Just HOW did you RE-locate NJ/PA to the NE?????? > Bet THOSE folks are irate!!! > > PLEASE 'splain !!!!!!!! > > I am sure even the Lady Di would LOVE to know HOW she > got MOVED !!!!!! > > > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 22 12:07:03 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:07:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In T... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0905221107g428d2a3dwdaf0b93357d80621@mail.gmail.com> Just down the hall , Sir. Just past the Ministry of Silly Walks. On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:16 AM, GUY DAY wrote: > Are you referring to the 'Naughty Organization of Stockinet Handymen In > Tights'? > > Sorry, should not have thought it > I won't even sign it..... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:25 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget > Handymen In T... > > > > Stockings? > > > > In a message dated 21/05/2009 17:39:21 GMT Daylight Time, > > richb at u.washington.edu writes: > > > > but PLEASE no tights From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 22 12:21:53 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:21:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905221053g752a66b3v6c54dc85bae76ffc@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905221053g752a66b3v6c54dc85bae76ffc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905221121g155fdbc0p6b77eb7f4498e5d7@mail.gmail.com> > The one thing I like about not having a reference list for gear head > questions is the dynamic real time response I get when I ask questions of > the list. > > I always get quick help. . and there are times that others chime in with a > similar but different approach. . . or more info that might not have been > saved to a ready made list. > > I also like the answers that generate friendly debate over how an issue > might be approached. I agree with Kirk. The social aspect of our interaction really does help keep our projects going. David Lieb From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 22 12:46:28 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:46:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905221104m32843d95v5f483b7409260a4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0905212211s268dd840hd7af5af52d99c288@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905221104m32843d95v5f483b7409260a4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905221146n49860565pa5422ad9735c8157@mail.gmail.com> After all, what side was New Jersey on in the War of Northern Aggression anyway? From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 22 12:48:35 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:48:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In T... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905221107g428d2a3dwdaf0b93357d80621@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0905221107g428d2a3dwdaf0b93357d80621@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520905221148i1be6875er82a7c56d1074db36@mail.gmail.com> > Just down the hall , Sir. Just past the Ministry of Silly Walks. > > Try to avoid the room with the "getting hit on the head" lessons... I came here for an argument... Splains a lot! David Python From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 22 12:49:59 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:49:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List In-Reply-To: <402188520905221121g155fdbc0p6b77eb7f4498e5d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905221053g752a66b3v6c54dc85bae76ffc@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905221121g155fdbc0p6b77eb7f4498e5d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905221149gfaa50a1x77a02c1b98f2f90a@mail.gmail.com> An electronic archive doesn't preclude use of the lists, guys. It is simply another form of archive. Nobody can make you use it. ;-) I may just go ahead and build one anyway. If nobody uses it, hey - nothing lost but my time and effort. If somebody gets some good out of it, well then it has served its purpose. I'm willing to bet on the latter based on past experience with my motorcycles. Cheers!! Jim Kirk said: > > The one thing I like about not having a reference list for gear head > > questions is the dynamic real time response I get when I ask questions of > > the list. > > > > I always get quick help. . and there are times that others chime in with > a > > similar but different approach. . . or more info that might not have been > > saved to a ready made list. > > > > I also like the answers that generate friendly debate over how an issue > > might be approached. > David replied: > I agree with Kirk. The social aspect of our interaction really does > help keep our projects going. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri May 22 12:53:44 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:53:44 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List In-Reply-To: <402188520905221121g155fdbc0p6b77eb7f4498e5d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905221053g752a66b3v6c54dc85bae76ffc@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905221121g155fdbc0p6b77eb7f4498e5d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: So, you believe that we are real and not just computer generated ? > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:21:53 -0500 > > > The one thing I like about not having a reference list for gear head > > questions is the dynamic real time response I get when I ask questions of > > the list. > > > > I always get quick help. . and there are times that others chime in with a > > similar but different approach. . . or more info that might not have been > > saved to a ready made list. > > > > I also like the answers that generate friendly debate over how an issue > > might be approached. > > I agree with Kirk. The social aspect of our interaction really does > help keep our projects going. > David Lieb From millerls at ado13.com Fri May 22 13:00:04 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:00:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List In-Reply-To: <402188520905221121g155fdbc0p6b77eb7f4498e5d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905221053g752a66b3v6c54dc85bae76ffc@mail.gmail.com> <402188520905221121g155fdbc0p6b77eb7f4498e5d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3EF489B1-0E22-4803-B50D-08DAC4A2355C@ado13.com> Agreed. On May 22, 2009, at 11:21 AM, David Lieb wrote: >> The one thing I like about not having a reference list for gear head >> questions is the dynamic real time response I get when I ask >> questions of >> the list. >> >> I always get quick help. . and there are times that others chime >> in with a >> similar but different approach. . . or more info that might not >> have been >> saved to a ready made list. >> >> I also like the answers that generate friendly debate over how an >> issue >> might be approached. > > I agree with Kirk. The social aspect of our interaction really does > help keep our projects going. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jfishbein at snet.net Fri May 22 13:38:55 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 12:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List Message-ID: <649343.28543.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I am not only a member of this list but the "If it ain't broken, don't fix-it" list. This list works just fine. It's a great group of people as well as a fine collection of strange characters. Members come and go, reappear, are reincarnated, and so-on. New members ask the same questions that were asked dozens of times before, and they receive answers. As I said previously, for years, I have printed replies to technical questions I thought would be useful. I have categorized them and put them into binders. Many are repetitive, but in most cases, they give different opinions and perspectives. Create a WikiSpridget site if you like, but for me, this resource works. Jay Fishbein 63 Sprite 61 Innocenti 950 Spider 73 Morris Mini Van > Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:21:53 -0500 > > > The one thing I like about not having a reference list for gear head > > questions is the dynamic real time response I get when I ask questions of > > the list. From cclabaw at juno.com Fri May 22 13:41:17 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:41:17 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod Message-ID: <20090522.124117.21760.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Listers- Just out of curious, don't all Sprite tie rods have wrenching flats to hold on to while removing tie rod ends? Or just my '67? Clay L. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Hendricksen Matt" To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 09:48:45 -0500 Thanks everyone for the tips. Yes, I was able to remove the TRE from the steering arm. Just wasn't able to remove the jam nut or TRE from the tie rod. I tried twisting the TRE and holding the nut, also tried clamping the tie rod and turning the nut, but no movement there either. Perhaps I need to follow Dean's lead and remove the whole darn rack. Matt '65 Sprite Madison, WI -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter at nosimport.com] Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 9:11 AM To: Hendricksen Matt; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod Matt, Did you undo the end from the steering arm yet? Do that first, as we discussed, then hold the jam nut and turn the tie rod end off. You needn't remove the jam nut to change the gaitor, AND you can get just the tie rod end boot, if that's all that's needed. Peter C === At 11:06 PM 5/21/2009, Hendricksen Matt wrote: >Hi all, > >Trying to replace the gaiters on my steering rack. Thought I'd replace the >tie rod ends as well since the rubber on those was looking shabby. > >I'm having trouble with the nut that's between the tie rod end and tie rod. I >tried penetrating oil, a BFH and heating up the nut but nothing seems to work. >Thought about using a nut splitter, but worried about screwing up the tie >rod. > >Matt >'65 Sprite >Madison, WI ______________________________________________________________________ This electronic message from QBE the Americas and any attachment to it is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. Any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this electronic message or any attachment is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please return it to the sender and delete this original from your system. You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Make the right POS decision. Click here for POS systems that meet your business needs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEHBDaDWvbzM9NImqGPXHel6DSg ePtw5qKWTFsL5MOdlliRTHXH7C/ From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri May 22 13:48:55 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:48:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <6169D30536C54BE982F262CF90DA3CE7@1705n3> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <30C83154-BA4F-459A-BD46-483184BA4F73@me.com> <6169D30536C54BE982F262CF90DA3CE7@1705n3> Message-ID: >On the other hand, the editor of such a book will be able to pick and >choose amongst the best advice. Who will edit the editor? We get an awful lot of good advice for the wrong question, because people do not read carefully. Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Bugeye kit Long Island, NY From pythias at pacifier.com Fri May 22 14:03:01 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 13:03:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905212238p490aff4fo3bdbb3a3cadd612e@mail.gmail.com> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905211147w1147a0d9y4bfc398f042c22a5@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10905211920m5f0327ccw2c35fecb5ac5da44@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905212238p490aff4fo3bdbb3a3cadd612e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15210262879.20090522130301@pacifier.com> Hello Jim, I applaud your willingness to undertake such a task.. It should be as YOU wish it to be, not only because you will be the major force behind but because as GRAND POOBAH, you have spoken... Even with such a resource, we still NEED the list. No where in an archive would be listed the Correct arrow vis a vis silver/gold. Correct Paint .... Old English White Correct fenders... high/low turn signal Correct engine color... let alone such topics as guitars, amps, cats, guns, Zappa, tequila, dogs,motorcycles, etc that we engage in during the bad weather months..... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "I'm not sure about Heisenberg," said Tom uncertainly. From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 22 14:08:25 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:08:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List In-Reply-To: <649343.28543.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <649343.28543.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402188520905221308t1831df4m4bde33b5d323abf7@mail.gmail.com> > Members come and go, reappear, are reincarnated, and so-on. Some even get reincarnated as canines... From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri May 22 14:59:38 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:59:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Exit Beers Message-ID: <402188520905221359o78c61a54kbf8d95344781cfbc@mail.gmail.com> So now Flying Fish Brewery in New Jersey is brewing the Exit Series of microbrews named for the Jersey Turnpike exits... Interesting way to tell people to leave. www.flyingfish.com From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Fri May 22 15:31:14 2009 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:31:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes Message-ID: <000301c9db24$a2f57270$e8e05750$@net> Got the running issue resolved or at least it seems after two 1 hour trips but a new issue has presented itself. As everyone remembers Iris would die at low rpms (would restart but run like it was flooded) but run fine on the upper ranges BUT this only happened on warm days and sometimes even then it wouldnt appear. Well what I found was that there was a small torn o ring (gland seal) which fits right under the jet bearing. Changed it, checked the float level and basically cleaned everything else, set the jet at 12 flats and worked my way to where it runs great with no hesitation at all and no stalling issues. What it does do now is run hot (above 210) when going over fifty mph. Under 50 it stays right around 190. Too lean??? Plugs are a tannish color. Ideas??? Also I checked the timing and re-ran the valve lash and both were fine. Valves set at .012 Have to try and have it ready for a 50 mile run tomorrow so hopefully it is a minor issue as far as resolving it. Leo From peter at nosimport.com Fri May 22 15:35:18 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:35:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Exit Beers In-Reply-To: <402188520905221359o78c61a54kbf8d95344781cfbc@mail.gmail.co m> References: <402188520905221359o78c61a54kbf8d95344781cfbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200905221435531.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Frank's old email address was @exit109, IIRC Peter ===== At 03:59 PM 5/22/2009, David Lieb wrote: >So now Flying Fish Brewery in New Jersey is brewing the Exit Series of >microbrews named for the Jersey Turnpike exits... Interesting way to >tell people to leave. >www.flyingfish.com >_______________________________________________ From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Fri May 22 15:37:30 2009 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 16:37:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] low oil pressurehappens to the pressure them. In-Reply-To: <402188520905221359o78c61a54kbf8d95344781cfbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520905221359o78c61a54kbf8d95344781cfbc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <000801c9db25$82e5c920$88b15b60$@net> One more question for the road. Iris has never had high oil pressure (10 idling, 35 - 40 running down the road but today the oil pressure dropped to around 4 or 5 lbs idling and around 30 running down the road, No tapping noise or anything other strange. Should I examine the bypass spring or ???? OR is this somewhow related to the temp issue> Am going to change the oil and filter and see what Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2128 - Release Date: 05/22/09 06:03:00 From spritenut at comcast.net Fri May 22 15:48:36 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:48:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Roller vs Carbon t/o bearings In-Reply-To: <719659.12414.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <719659.12414.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A171DB4.8050404@comcast.net> David Booker wrote: > Anybody have bad stories about roller bearings? I have used both. Never any problems with either one. But I tend to buy NOS Borg & Beck carbons when ever I see them. I did buy 10 of them some 20 years ago for about .50 cents each, I just had to buy one finally for the Lady Bug, it's a new one from a reputable dealer/list member, so far, it's fine. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Fri May 22 15:52:29 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:52:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Removing nut from tie rod In-Reply-To: <20090522.124117.21760.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> References: <20090522.124117.21760.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <4A171E9D.1050402@comcast.net> cclabaw at juno.com wrote: > Listers- > > Just out of curious, don't all Sprite tie rods have wrenching flats to hold on > to while removing tie rod ends? Or just my '67? > > Yes they do, most take a 9/16" wrench on the flat and a 15/16" wrench on the jam nut. Later racks are different. I don't do later ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri May 22 16:15:35 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:15:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes In-Reply-To: <000301c9db24$a2f57270$e8e05750$@net> References: <000301c9db24$a2f57270$e8e05750$@net> Message-ID: <8E69818E3CC9408EABB9985751DB10F0@spider> Did you have hot running last summer? You may have cooling system problems; what thermostat? Clean radiator inside, what you can see thru the cap opening? Thermostatic fan? ...bill in oregon ============================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cathey speichinger Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:31 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] running woes Got the running issue resolved or at least it seems after two 1 hour trips but a new issue has presented itself. As everyone remembers Iris would die at low rpms (would restart but run like it was flooded) but run fine on the upper ranges BUT this only happened on warm days and sometimes even then it wouldnt appear. Well what I found was that there was a small torn o ring (gland seal) which fits right under the jet bearing. Changed it, checked the float level and basically cleaned everything else, set the jet at 12 flats and worked my way to where it runs great with no hesitation at all and no stalling issues. What it does do now is run hot (above 210) when going over fifty mph. Under 50 it stays right around 190. Too lean??? Plugs are a tannish color. Ideas??? Also I checked the timing and re-ran the valve lash and both were fine. Valves set at .012 Have to try and have it ready for a 50 mile run tomorrow so hopefully it is a minor issue as far as resolving it. Leo _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 22 16:28:15 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (soavero at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] low oil pressure happens to the pressure them. Message-ID: <999606.15610.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Leo, Don't trust drained oil. I've annihilated bearings on the track and NOT seen it in the oil or filter until you drop the pan (then it's REAL obvious!). I just did a bearing refresh Wednesday night, it only takes half hour or so with a cordless drill/nutdriver to drop the pan with everything in place and take a look (pull the plugs so you can turn the motor easier!). It will likely be rod bearing #4 that's bad. You'll have to remove the oil pickup screen to check #4, easy to do. You might even find it is just the fitting is loose on the pickup tube (15/16" wrench on 1275, anyway), especially if Will Perry at Rivergate had anything to do with assembling it. Also, the temp issue certainly didn't help. Good luck, Ron --- On Fri, 5/22/09, cathey speichinger wrote: > From: cathey speichinger > Subject: [Spridgets] low oil pressurehappens to the pressure them. > To: "'Spridgets'" > Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 4:37 PM > One more question for the road. > Iris has never had high oil pressure (10 > idling, 35 - 40 running down the road but today the oil > pressure dropped to > around 4 or 5 lbs idling and around 30 running down the > road, No tapping > noise or anything other strange. Should I examine the > bypass spring or ???? > OR is this somewhow related to the temp issue> Am > going to change the oil > and filter and see what > > > Leo From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri May 22 16:32:03 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 15:32:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] "Real and not computer generated?" Message-ID: <37dc82d40905221532k25195844pd75f4721facc9591@mail.gmail.com> "Real and not Computer Generated?" Yes, or no, or errr. . . not quite sure? What is the question again? Kirk From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 22 16:49:13 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:49:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List In-Reply-To: <402188520905221308t1831df4m4bde33b5d323abf7@mail.gmail.com> References: <649343.28543.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <402188520905221308t1831df4m4bde33b5d323abf7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905221549l50ab5d47ia0e735b0b7b24cd9@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:08 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > Some even get reincarnated as canines... You mean they are reincanined? ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri May 22 17:14:20 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:14:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Some days are diamonds..... Message-ID: <43840a7e0905221614q78e77778sfe08c51415931b8f@mail.gmail.com> This afternoon I was looking out the dining room window and noticed my "No Habla" neighbors down the street setting up their biweekly yard sale. Lo and behold, there is a hydraulic engine lift sitting there! I don't have one. I finally decided to go down there and see what they wanted for it. $100 - no haggle.... And its a 2 ton lift and working perfectly. It didn't even burn my hands when I pushed it down the hill and into my garage! Heck! If I'd bought one online I would have paid nearly that just for the shipping. Some days are diamonds.... Tum Te Dum Dum..... -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From pilotrob at msn.com Fri May 22 17:38:31 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 23:38:31 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Some days are diamonds..... Message-ID: Whoa, whoa, Jim Johnson weather guy extraordinaire and always highly situationally aware accordingly, scores. big time.....nice find. :) CB -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:14 PM To: Spridgets, Yahoo Spridget list, sprite-midgetclub Subject: [midgetsprite] Some days are diamonds..... This afternoon I was looking out the dining room window and noticed my "No Habla" neighbors down the street setting up their biweekly yard sale. Lo and behold, there is a hydraulic engine lift sitting there! I don't have one. I finally decided to go down there and see what they wanted for it. $100 - no haggle.... And its a 2 ton lift and working perfectly. It didn't even burn my hands when I pushed it down the hill and into my garage! Heck! If I'd bought one online I would have paid nearly that just for the shipping. Some days are diamonds.... Tum Te Dum Dum..... -- Cheers!! Jim o?=Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former.o?= - Albert Einstein [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/midgetsprite/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:midgetsprite-digest at yahoogroups.com mailto:midgetsprite-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: midgetsprite-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From d.swanson at earthlink.net Fri May 22 18:12:41 2009 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 20:12:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Roller bearing Message-ID: Don't our Spridget clutch slave cylinders have springs in them so the throw-out bearing is always in contact with the pressure plate? Part of the "self adjusting" hydraulic clutch? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves Someone on the list mentioned installing a Roller Bearing that blew up after a couple thousand miles and was surprised it went that long. . it was just a bit off center. . in effect acting like the movement of a DA sander against the clutch springs, or acting like a carbon bearing with no carbon surface since it was not able to turn at the correct speed. My old VW when I was a kid, a 1960 that I wish I had kept (now that they are collectible) had the same type of carbon bearing, and it held up for years of driving. My dad always drilled it into me to keep my foot off the clutch at lights and not to rest my foot on the clutch, or even touch it with my foot while driving in gear. My current carbon is doing very well. . . Kirk From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri May 22 18:36:08 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:36:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] simple spark plug question In-Reply-To: <12390.6966.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <12390.6966.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1B9042721C894F77A602BFA0B6199D1F@BASEMENTDELL> If I had the timing off and the carbs too rich and "sooted" the plugs, would they clean themselves after driving it after things are (I think) set properly? It's a dry black soot. Chris From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri May 22 18:54:25 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New Robbins top for sale Message-ID: <993644.23117.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey everybody - My friend has a brand new, never installed top for sale so I told him I'd let the list know about it. It was recently delivered to him, but he doesn't need it now - so this is not one of those "been in the garage for a few years" tops that have invariably shrunk. Details are below. Apparently this price represents about $80 off the egular price. The part numbers are from Moss. 242-200 - Black Vinyl Robbins top (no header panel) 453-930 - header rail retainer (hold seal in place) 453-610 - header rail seal 400-670 - retaining strip (where the bolts go thru to the body at the back) It fits Mk3, Mk4, and 1500 Midgets He wants $300.00 (plus whatever it costs to ship it) for all of it. If you're interested, send me an email and I'll hook you up with him. - David Booker Long Island From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri May 22 18:57:46 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 17:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Some days are diamonds..... Message-ID: <136013.87004.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I would call that well-snagged! Good thing you were snooping between the slats in those blinds... - David --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: [Spridgets] Some days are diamonds..... To: "Spridgets" , "Yahoo Spridget list" , "sprite-midgetclub" Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 6:14 PM This afternoon I was looking out the dining room window and noticed my "No Habla" neighbors down the street setting up their biweekly yard sale. Lo and behold, there is a hydraulic engine lift sitting there! I don't have one. I finally decided to go down there and see what they wanted for it. $100 - no haggle.... And its a 2 ton lift and working perfectly. It didn't even burn my hands when I pushed it down the hill and into my garage! Heck! If I'd bought one online I would have paid nearly that just for the shipping. Some days are diamonds.... Tum Te Dum Dum..... -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Fri May 22 19:04:31 2009 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 21:04:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] simple spark plug question In-Reply-To: <1B9042721C894F77A602BFA0B6199D1F@BASEMENTDELL> References: <12390.6966.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1B9042721C894F77A602BFA0B6199D1F@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <67F28BD9-3F3F-4FC6-9E89-84EC813367E8@gmail.com> On May 22, 2009, at 8:36 PM, Chris Manuel wrote: > If I had the timing off and the carbs too rich and "sooted" the > plugs, would > they clean themselves after driving it after things are (I think) set > properly? Chris, Depends on the temperature of the plug. It's best to pull them and clean them up. That way you will be able to tell if you have the carb's set correctly when you pull the plugs next time. It'll run better ;) Kevin V. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri May 22 19:27:26 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 18:27:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NJ Exit Beers Message-ID: <122f01c9db45$a177d020$0168010a@mail2world.com> Ah, yes, but that's off the Garden State Parkway... Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Peter Caldwell [peter at nosimport.com] >Sent: 5/22/2009 5:37:18 PM >To: 72spridget at gmail.com;spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NJ Exit Beers > >Frank's old email address was @exit109, IIRC > > > Peter >===== >At 03:59 PM 5/22/2009, David Lieb wrote: >>So now Flying Fish Brewery in New Jersey is brewing the Exit Series of >>microbrews named for the Jersey Turnpike exits... Interesting way to >>tell people to leave. >>www.flyingfish.com >>_______________________________________________ >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri May 22 20:18:15 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 21:18:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Some days are diamonds..... References: <43840a7e0905221614q78e77778sfe08c51415931b8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3723ED7ECA104DB5B4EF8BA7D0F7FE99@Dell9200> Jim, It wasn't red was it? Might be mine! Mark Nashville This afternoon I was looking out the dining room window and noticed my "No Habla" neighbors down the street setting up their biweekly yard sale. Lo and behold, there is a hydraulic engine lift sitting there! I don't have one. I finally decided to go down there and see what they wanted for it. $100 - no haggle.... And its a 2 ton lift and working perfectly. It didn't even burn my hands when I pushed it down the hill and into my garage! Heck! If I'd bought one online I would have paid nearly that just for the shipping. Some days are diamonds.... Tum Te Dum Dum..... -- Cheers!! Jim From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri May 22 20:46:09 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 19:46:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Some days are diamonds..... In-Reply-To: <3723ED7ECA104DB5B4EF8BA7D0F7FE99@Dell9200> References: <43840a7e0905221614q78e77778sfe08c51415931b8f@mail.gmail.com> <3723ED7ECA104DB5B4EF8BA7D0F7FE99@Dell9200> Message-ID: <73D5594C327E4B65BCE75E82CE4EB082@spider> Haven't seen mine in years; it was unpainted. ...bill in Oregon ================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:18 PM To: Jim Johnson; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Some days are diamonds..... Jim, It wasn't red was it? Might be mine! Mark Nashville ======================================================== This afternoon I was looking out the dining room window and noticed my "No Habla" neighbors down the street setting up their biweekly yard sale. Lo and behold, there is a hydraulic engine lift sitting there! I don't have one. I finally decided to go down there and see what they wanted for it. $100 - no haggle.... And its a 2 ton lift and working perfectly. It didn't even burn my hands when I pushed it down the hill and into my garage! Heck! If I'd bought one online I would have paid nearly that just for the shipping. Some days are diamonds.... Tum Te Dum Dum..... -- Cheers!! Jim _______________________________________________ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri May 22 21:24:12 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 22:24:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... In-Reply-To: <502209434.20090519202228@pacifier.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu><2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com><118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <502209434.20090519202228@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Oh ick. Read the description all the way. Ebay number 270393486754 Chris From davriker at nwi.net Fri May 22 23:06:53 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 22:06:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] running woes References: <000301c9db24$a2f57270$e8e05750$@net> Message-ID: <58D53B7B9C78481E8242871B1CE55046@MAIN> Check the impeller blade on the waterpump. David r. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cathey speichinger" To: Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 2:31 PM Subject: [Spridgets] running woes > Got the running issue resolved or at least it seems after two 1 hour trips > but a new issue has presented itself. As everyone remembers Iris would > die > at low rpms (would restart but run like it was flooded) but run fine on > the > upper ranges BUT this only happened on warm days and sometimes even then > it > wouldnt appear. Well what I found was that there was a small torn o ring > (gland seal) which fits right under the jet bearing. Changed it, checked > the float level and basically cleaned everything else, set the jet at 12 > flats and worked my way to where it runs great with no hesitation at all > and > no stalling issues. What it does do now is run hot (above 210) when > going > over fifty mph. Under 50 it stays right around 190. Too lean??? Plugs > are > a tannish color. Ideas??? Also I checked the timing and re-ran the > valve > lash and both were fine. Valves set at .012 > > > > > > Have to try and have it ready for a 50 mile run tomorrow so hopefully it > is > a minor issue as far as resolving it. > > > > Leo > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2129 - Release Date: 05/22/09 17:56:00 From soavero at yahoo.com Fri May 22 23:34:53 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 22:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... Message-ID: <440623.87252.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Wood,wood,wood.....Let's toss it in the water and see if it floats. If it does, it's a witch, and we'll burn it. --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Chris Manuel wrote: > From: Chris Manuel > Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 10:24 PM > Oh ick. > > Read the description all the way. > > Ebay number 270393486754 > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat May 23 00:28:07 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 01:28:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... In-Reply-To: <440623.87252.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <440623.87252.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0905222328t625ffc4fn12704e3612584f1f@mail.gmail.com> I drive a Pontiac Aztek so I'm very tolerant of "different" vehicles and rarely put down another person's idea of a nice car ... but D#@%!!!! That really needs to be done away with! A least when I'm driving my Aztek I don't have to see what it looks like outside, but that dude even screwed up the inside of this car! On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > Wood,wood,wood.....Let's toss it in the water and see if it floats. If it > does, it's a witch, and we'll burn it. > > --- On Fri, 5/22/09, Chris Manuel > wrote: > >> From: Chris Manuel >> > Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> > Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 10:24 PM >> Oh ick. >> >> Read the description all > the way. >> >> Ebay number 270393486754 >> >> Chris >> > _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tr3.4.me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 23 02:47:19 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 03:47:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> O M G !!!!! Chris, I HATE to be the one asking but WHAT THE HE|| where you looking for when you found "IT" ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I did ask the "seller" if HE paid ME $500.00, would he deliver to Toms River ?!?!?!? !!!!! Frank could 'hook up the brakes' and GIVE it to somebody he HATES with a purple passion !!!!!! Oooops, forgot for a sec (check time of this post) Frank 'don't work on dem new-fangled tings!!! Peter From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat May 23 04:26:02 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (72 Spridget) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 05:26:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... References: <440623.87252.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8de85a9c0905222328t625ffc4fn12704e3612584f1f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <718E9FEDD6DD4323AB487C671F395FFE@rwa> >> Wood,wood,wood.....Let's toss it in the water and see if it floats. If it >> does, it's a witch, and we'll burn it. "The brakes do not work at all as they are not hooked up. There is no gas tank I run the vehicle with a can in the trunk." OK now, are we ALL imagining a wooden Spridget with no brakes and a can of gasoline in the trunk in rush hour traffic? From grday at btinternet.com Sat May 23 04:41:51 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 11:41:51 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... References: Message-ID: <665E220EFB7F44879FB3B141C6686E95@dell330> According to the blurb you will have 2 engines, 2 transmissions, differentials, rostyle (?) wheels, carpets, seats, instruments etc. If the extra parts are there, could this be looking better? (The vehicle won't look better but for a source of spares it could be OK). You'll even have firewood.... GRD >><> From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat May 23 05:14:29 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 06:14:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu><2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com><118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com><502209434.20090519202228@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <17CF0E117D4D47B886B970157B3AA8C1@Larry> Ignoring his lack of taste, the guy put a lot of work into it, but then the engine compartment looks like a rat hole. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Manuel" To: Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 10:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... Oh ick. Read the description all the way. Ebay number 270393486754 Chris You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat May 23 05:21:32 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 04:21:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] New Robbins top for sale Message-ID: <242689.30013.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I forgot to add the official spridget list nomenclature ending for this kind of post.... I have NFI, yada-yada-yada. There, NOW it is properly posted! - David --- On Fri, 5/22/09, David Booker wrote: From: David Booker Subject: [Spridgets] New Robbins top for sale To: "spridget" Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:54 PM Hey everybody - My friend has a brand new, never installed top for sale so I told him I'd let the list know about it. It was recently delivered to him, but he doesn't need it now - so this is not one of those "been in the garage for a few years" tops that have invariably shrunk. Details are below. Apparently this price represents about $80 off the egular price. The part numbers are from Moss. 242-200 - Black Vinyl Robbins top (no header panel) 453-930 - header rail retainer (hold seal in place) 453-610 - header rail seal 400-670 - retaining strip (where the bolts go thru to the body at the back) It fits Mk3, Mk4, and 1500 Midgets He wants $300.00 (plus whatever it costs to ship it) for all of it. If you're interested, send me an email and I'll hook you up with him. - David Booker Long Island You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat May 23 05:51:30 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 07:51:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Second Call: Northwest Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7CE9EF7D-0AC7-44AB-A523-2670E62D98AD@phillymgclub.com> Hey from most anywhere in the US PA, NJ and NY is the NE. They mostly do not know there is a CT, MA and above ;-) (and most of us would like to forget the noisome one from CT anyway ;-) Larry On May 22, 2009, at 5:39 AM, Ed's Shop wrote: > Lemme see (and IIRC): > > < Northeast guys (Frank, et al).>> > > You ARE a RETIRED U.S. Federal Weather Person, right Jim ??? > You supposedly KNOW the United States, right?? > > Just HOW did you RE-locate NJ/PA to the NE?????? > Bet THOSE folks are irate!!! > > PLEASE 'splain !!!!!!!! > > I am sure even the Lady Di would LOVE to know HOW she > got MOVED !!!!!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat May 23 06:13:49 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 05:13:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... Message-ID: <1126301c9db9f$edb95940$056a010a@mail2world.com> Don't let cabinetmakers get hold of cars. :P That guy is about 1/2 hr north of me, if anyone is really interested in it. I have no room for it, and my wife would kill me if I brought another car home. Especially one that looked like this... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Chris Manuel [cmanuel at wi.rr.com] >Sent: 5/22/2009 11:25:12 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... > >Oh ick. > >Read the description all the way. > >Ebay number 270393486754 > >Chris >_______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Sat May 23 06:21:29 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 05:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... Message-ID: <959821.2028.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 5/23/09, 72 Spridget <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > OK now, are we ALL imagining a wooden Spridget with no > brakes and a can of gasoline in the trunk in rush hour > traffic? Except for the wooden part, I'm not imagining, I'm remembering. Ron From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Sat May 23 08:07:07 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 07:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] efi info for leo Message-ID: <200905231407.n4NE77dI016966@tremex.ucdavis.edu> Leo, Did you get the EFI/turbo info? I sent it twice to two different addresses for you. Glen From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 23 10:37:17 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 11:37:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] efi info for leo In-Reply-To: <200905231407.n4NE77dI016966@tremex.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <> NOT for Iris !?!?!?!?!?!? OMG Leo, say it AIN'T so !!!!! From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat May 23 10:40:08 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 12:40:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... In-Reply-To: References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <502209434.20090519202228@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905230940j27f58973w6f33b264c1e26e58@mail.gmail.com> Oh no that is so ugly, someone please put it out of it's misery : ( On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Chris Manuel wrote: > Oh ick. > > Read the description all the way. > > Ebay number 270393486754 > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Sat May 23 11:38:11 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 12:38:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... In-Reply-To: <1126301c9db9f$edb95940$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <> Nah Chris, I HAVE met your wife and I would BET some serious cash that she WOULD have certified INSANE and have you committed to the NUT HATCH !! Anon !!!! From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat May 23 11:58:31 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 10:58:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hot Running Message-ID: <37dc82d40905231058v10b8d959g63044ff1f63750fd@mail.gmail.com> My son had a early 90's Suzuki 16 Valve. . forget the name of the car. Fun little thing when it was running. I pulled the radiator and swapped it in for the stock Brit design. I was running 240 at hot summer stop lights. .. I had to do something fairly fast. Since I changed the radiator out. . . running 160 -170. . . never higher than 170 no matter what the conditions are outside. Sits at 170 during long stop lights in 100 degree plus heat. (At the same time my body temp is probably sitting at 200)! Same radiator as a Geo Metro. I also used the electric fan hooking it up to a thermostat I bought from an auto parts store. Blanking sleeve, high water ratio with distilled water. Probably running too cool at this point. No doubt the stock radiator needed to be routed out. . however, I am not sure if the stock radiator would still be able to keep my car running as cool as the "Metro" unit I put in. Kirk From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 23 12:17:00 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:17:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Here's why many of us are involved in these little cars.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0905231117j51a69646o15251e929474fedb@mail.gmail.com> In thinking about this article, I find a lot of truth here... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/magazine/24labor-t.html?_r=2&pagewanted -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From soavero at yahoo.com Sat May 23 14:07:15 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: BFR Nat Message-ID: <776185.82557.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I went out to Blackhawk Farms last weekend to crew for a friend in an SCCA Formula Ford, this was taken by a friend of his. Checkout the car porn at 9:07 into it. > My mommy says t\his is where Formula Vee's come from... > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxXFx_7mpIY Ron From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat May 23 16:48:00 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 17:48:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... In-Reply-To: <205cef430905230940j27f58973w6f33b264c1e26e58@mail.gmail.com> References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <502209434.20090519202228@pacifier.com> <205cef430905230940j27f58973w6f33b264c1e26e58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ... it wasn't until after the teardown that the extensive use of wood to replace aluminum pistons was discovered.. :-) Lester On May 23, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Oh no that is so ugly, someone please put it out of it's misery : ( > > On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Chris Manuel > wrote: > >> Oh ick. >> >> Read the description all the way. >> >> Ebay number 270393486754 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat May 23 17:23:00 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 18:23:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] not one of Frank's... In-Reply-To: References: <78F9868394784FE684017586AF9E8DD4@psych.washington.edu> <2ad6c6b10905191926j1d1628e8qe5772b2b86837b49@mail.gmail.com> <118.76613.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <502209434.20090519202228@pacifier.com> <205cef430905230940j27f58973w6f33b264c1e26e58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905231623u56bff505r26c6544747b37456@mail.gmail.com> Hey! Why not? Didn't George Washington have wooden teeth? Cheers!! Jim On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Lester wrote: > ... it wasn't until after the teardown that the extensive use of wood to > replace aluminum pistons was discovered.. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sat May 23 17:52:55 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 18:52:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] efi info for leo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <189D03FA2BEE492EA1D36376A7115ADD@CatheyBPC> Well lets see... I figure I can pull the motor out of Iris nd put in a 1275 EFI system along with a little bottle of NOS and have a stock FAST bugeye...What do you say:) NOT... but my other bugeye project which will be home in August or sooner might just get the EFI treatment:) Leo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] efi info for leo > <> > > NOT for Iris !?!?!?!?!?!? > > OMG Leo, say it AIN'T so !!!!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun May 24 13:16:30 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery gasket (help me ID, please) Message-ID: <991730.35903.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm trying to get everything back together now so I can reinstall the engine sometime in the next few days. Am preparing to put the oil pan back on and have a couple spare gasket pieces in the oil pan gasket kit I can't place. There are the two long gaskets that go along each side of the pan, there are the two rubber seals that go on each end, and there are two straight cork pieces I can't identify. Can somebody tell me what they are? There were no corresponding cork pieces when I removed the pan (to beat out the huge dent somebody placed there for me). Could it be that these were there instead of the rubber on earlier versions of the engine? Mine's a 1275 if that matters. Thanks, David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 13:51:29 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery gasket (help me ID, please) Message-ID: <174057.69032.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, David Booker wrote: > and there are two > straight cork > pieces I can't identify. You can use either the rubber or the cork gaskets in the half-moon sections. The newer kits come with both, you choose which you want to try. Both are dependent upon how good a job you do installing them. I'm convinced it's a feel-good marketing tool so you can blame any resultant leak on whichever version you choose, and you think "next time, I'll use the the other." Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 24 14:03:32 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:03:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery gasket (help me ID, please) In-Reply-To: <991730.35903.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <991730.35903.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905241303y7d8758acneb144bafa97b6b94@mail.gmail.com> David, Depends on the gasket kit you bought. The two rubber seals you have correctly identified. If you bend the two cork pieces you will see that they are the same as the two rubber seals. You can use either, but in my experience the rubber seals work better and last longer. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 2:16 PM, David Booker wrote: > I'm trying to get everything back together now so I can reinstall the > engine > sometime in the next few days. Am preparing to put the oil pan back on and > have a couple spare gasket pieces in the oil pan gasket kit I can't place. > There are the two long gaskets that go along each side of the pan, there > are > the two rubber seals that go on each end, and there are two straight cork > pieces I can't identify. Can somebody tell me what they are? There were > no > corresponding cork pieces when I removed the pan (to beat out the huge dent > somebody placed there for me). Could it be that these were there instead > of > the rubber on earlier versions of the engine? Mine's a 1275 if that > matters. > > Thanks, > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 14:28:28 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 13:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery gasket (help me ID, please) Message-ID: <253392.64414.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Another thing, just to be certain - when banging out the pan, I know 2 different people who banged out the intentional dent for the dipstick! --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Ron Soave wrote: > From: Ron Soave > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mystery gasket (help me ID, please) > To: "spridget" , "David Booker" > Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 2:51 PM > --- On Sun, 5/24/09, David Booker > > wrote: > > and there are two > > straight cork > > pieces I can't identify. > > You can use either the rubber or the cork gaskets in the > half-moon sections. The newer kits come with both, you > choose which you want to try. Both are dependent upon how > good a job you do installing them. I'm convinced it's a > feel-good marketing tool so you can blame any resultant leak > on whichever version you choose, and you think "next time, > I'll use the the other." > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From vern at srvinet.com Sun May 24 15:30:03 2009 From: vern at srvinet.com (Vern) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 14:30:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line Message-ID: <1C5241BD6742458FA019EB825C758505@kitchen> There was not to long ago a discussion about how bad the chinese fuel line is. I can't find the archive and don't remember what the solution was to fine some good line. My B started flooding over yesterday and sure enough there was little bits of line in the fuel. I used Goodyear fuel injector line and thought it would be good. Anyone or Frank if you are around what line do you recommend? Vern From nases at verizon.net Sun May 24 15:47:39 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:47:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite storage Message-ID: <2DEE0E05-38C6-4A78-A052-C0AFCB8023E4@verizon.net> Anyone ever store a Sprite in an enclosed trailer? I've been looking for a trailer for the Bugeye and thinking an enclosed trailer could at least provide some car storage when not in use and free up my garage in winter for my pickup. I'm in PA with wet, humid summers and wet cold winters. It seems rust might be a big problem unless the trailer is vented some how. Also, in any form of trailer how much length is enough? I guess ideally it should be long enough to have a lockable tool and spares storage box. 14' or 16'? I'm trying to keep it as light as possible. I hope all you vets have a great Holiday tomorrow and Thanks. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun May 24 16:43:29 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:43:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line In-Reply-To: <1C5241BD6742458FA019EB825C758505@kitchen> References: <1C5241BD6742458FA019EB825C758505@kitchen> Message-ID: <4A196B21.26392.1AEC450@kk7ss.verizon.net> I went to the Local Harley-Davidson dealer and bought some of the same fuel line they use... After all, Hog fuel line sees a lot of weather... "Anyone" ;-)) On 24 May 2009 at 14:30, Vern wrote: >> Anyone or Frank if you are around what >> line do you recommend? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 24 16:46:57 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:46:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] writing the book... In-Reply-To: <15210262879.20090522130301@pacifier.com> References: <8D7CD756-3CAB-45CF-BAF6-D00C4E043959@dartmouth.edu> <524244.76924.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0905211044h292fc5can6a56e5171f66c68e@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905211147w1147a0d9y4bfc398f042c22a5@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10905211920m5f0327ccw2c35fecb5ac5da44@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905212238p490aff4fo3bdbb3a3cadd612e@mail.gmail.com> <15210262879.20090522130301@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Tequila eh? I have a small bottle of San Matias Legado Reposado by the bed right now. It goes well with the roar of the surf, and the cool breezes drifting through all the open windows. My thanks to all of you who placed your faith in the same idiots that brought us Y2K, Mad Cow Disease, and West Nile Virus. My "on the beach" suite is barely over less than $575 a week, and we are the only gringos in town... Sometimes it's just nice to get away. OBLIGATORY SPRIDGET CONENT The roads here have SPEED BUMPS FROM HELL, EVERYWHERE!! There is NO WAY you could drive a Spridget down around here. I was following a PT Cruiser in from a small trip to the town over, and IT bottomed out on the first speed bump coming into Barra de Navidad. I have a Nissan Tsuru, that seems to take it all in stride. Brad On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Jim, > > I applaud your willingness to undertake such a task.. It should > be as YOU wish it to be, not only because you will be the major > force behind but because as GRAND POOBAH, you have spoken... > > Even with such a resource, we still NEED the list. No where in > an archive would be listed the > > Correct arrow vis a vis silver/gold. > Correct Paint .... Old English White > Correct fenders... high/low turn signal > Correct engine color... > > let alone such topics as guitars, amps, cats, guns, Zappa, > tequila, dogs,motorcycles, etc that we engage in during the bad weather > months..... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > * "I'm not sure about Heisenberg," said Tom uncertainly. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun May 24 16:53:28 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:53:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List In-Reply-To: <402188520905221308t1831df4m4bde33b5d323abf7@mail.gmail.com> References: <649343.28543.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <402188520905221308t1831df4m4bde33b5d323abf7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I hope Montana Bob and Just Ed are reincarnated as CATS!! Then they will serve some useful purpose!!! LMF'nAO!!! On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:08 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Members come and go, reappear, are reincarnated, and so-on. > > Some even get reincarnated as canines... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 16:56:15 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch Message-ID: <284962.75730.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> This is regarding my street Bugeye, 1960 with stock suspension and 4 wheel drum brakes. When I hit the brake pedal, it lurches HARD to the left. Not a little drift - it snaps the steering wheel counterclockise. I have changed various elements one at a time over the past year, it's unchanged. I've changed: Brake pads Brake rubber line Wheel cylinders trunnion bushings Wheel bearings Brake pedal is hard and drums are adjusted like I always have, and the car used to have wonderful brakes. To check out the effect of weight shift under braking, I actually went down a hill in reverse fast enough to get the lurch effect and nailed the brakes and the car stopped fine and linearly. It's definitely something in the suspension in the front that acts up when the front is loaded. Any and all ideas are welcomed. The car looks stunning and goes like Ed to a "FREE BEER" sign, but I'm ready for a "Ran When Parked" advertisement. Ron From jfishbein at snet.net Sun May 24 17:07:16 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:07:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite storage In-Reply-To: <2DEE0E05-38C6-4A78-A052-C0AFCB8023E4@verizon.net> References: <2DEE0E05-38C6-4A78-A052-C0AFCB8023E4@verizon.net> Message-ID: <241CB498-E56A-407C-9FBF-8572F23D111F@snet.net> A 16' will give plenty of space Jay Fishbein On May 24, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Phil Nase wrote: > Anyone ever store a Sprite in an enclosed trailer? I've been > looking for a trailer for the Bugeye and thinking an enclosed > trailer could at least provide some car storage when not in use and > free up my garage in winter for my pickup. > > I'm in PA with wet, humid summers and wet cold winters. It seems > rust might be a big problem unless the trailer is vented some how. > > Also, in any form of trailer how much length is enough? I guess > ideally it should be long enough to have a lockable tool and spares > storage box. 14' or 16'? I'm trying to keep it as light as possible. From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Sun May 24 17:20:54 2009 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:20:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite storage In-Reply-To: <2DEE0E05-38C6-4A78-A052-C0AFCB8023E4@verizon.net> References: <2DEE0E05-38C6-4A78-A052-C0AFCB8023E4@verizon.net> Message-ID: <000901c9dcc6$493dc4f0$dbb94ed0$@net> I have a 7 x 16 enclosed trailer that Iris resides in to free up space. Plenty of room for her in it and is easily towed. I have been playing with the idea of presuurising it to keep out dust. A small computer fan with a filter should fit the bill nicely and for winter a small strip heater should keep down the moisture issue. Have never regretted buying it. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Phil Nase Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 4:48 PM To: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite storage Anyone ever store a Sprite in an enclosed trailer? I've been looking for a trailer for the Bugeye and thinking an enclosed trailer could at least provide some car storage when not in use and free up my garage in winter for my pickup. I'm in PA with wet, humid summers and wet cold winters. It seems rust might be a big problem unless the trailer is vented some how. Also, in any form of trailer how much length is enough? I guess ideally it should be long enough to have a lockable tool and spares storage box. 14' or 16'? I'm trying to keep it as light as possible. I hope all you vets have a great Holiday tomorrow and Thanks. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ You are subscribed as cathe125 at suddenlink.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2131 - Release Date: 05/24/09 07:09:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2131 - Release Date: 05/24/09 07:09:00 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 24 17:37:29 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:37:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Races Message-ID: One of my indulgences on the Memorial Day weekend is to watch the Indy 500 and the Formula One race. While I respect the skills of the Indy Car racers, I can't imagine another motorsport that requires more skill and precise car control than that exhibited by road course drivers and, especially, by those at the GP of Monaco. These guys are incredible. I'll bet we all consider ourselves to be above average drivers, but these guys are absolutely humbling in their skill. I am still in awe after all these years of watching them. Someday, I need to go to Monte Carlo to watch this race in person. Congratulations to Helio Castroneves and Jensen Button. Larry Daniels From cathe125 at suddenlink.net Sun May 24 17:38:42 2009 From: cathe125 at suddenlink.net (cathey speichinger) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:38:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale Message-ID: <000b01c9dcc8$c6138df0$523aa9d0$@net> Ebay # 170333662460 What a TOTAL screw up of a bugeye. Are there really MORONS out there who think they are stretching the limits of auto design with their rilliant4ideas??? . Might as well run over it with a steam roller as ANY perceived value is long gone. Leo From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun May 24 17:39:32 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:39:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch In-Reply-To: <284962.75730.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <284962.75730.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0DA345F6002E49F4A32ED46F8C7112F0@spider> Has the "rubber" line at each wheel been replaced ...where they exist? Is there a second 'rubber' line in the rear between the body and the brake tubing that is anchored to the differential? ================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:56 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch This is regarding my street Bugeye, 1960 with stock suspension and 4 wheel drum brakes. When I hit the brake pedal, it lurches HARD to the left. Not a little drift - it snaps the steering wheel counterclockise. I have changed various elements one at a time over the past year, it's unchanged. I've changed: Brake pads Brake rubber line Wheel cylinders trunnion bushings Wheel bearings Brake pedal is hard and drums are adjusted like I always have, and the car used to have wonderful brakes. To check out the effect of weight shift under braking, I actually went down a hill in reverse fast enough to get the lurch effect and nailed the brakes and the car stopped fine and linearly. It's definitely something in the suspension in the front that acts up when the front is loaded. Any and all ideas are welcomed. The car looks stunning and goes like Ed to a "FREE BEER" sign, but I'm ready for a "Ran When Parked" advertisement. Ron _______________________________________________ From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Sun May 24 17:59:47 2009 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:59:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite storage In-Reply-To: <2DEE0E05-38C6-4A78-A052-C0AFCB8023E4@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4.1.20090524193021.00d67b68@mail.bellsouth.net> I have a Haulmark 16' dual axle enclosed trailer I use to haul my 1967 Midget vintage race car to the races. I store the car in the trailer between races when I am not working on it in the garage. The key to successful storage is ventilation. My trailer has one 18" square vent that I leave open about two inches. I am in Sharpsburg, GA, just south of Atlanta so we have considerable heat and humidity but mild winters. Another key to rust free and mold free storage is to not park the trailer on dirt. Dirt seems to give up more moisture than concrete. My buddy parks his on dirt/grass and has a significant mold and mildew problem despite running a de-humidifier constantly. I use a small electric space heater in the winter so the temp stays just above freezing. Sixteen feet is long enough to accommodate the Midget as well as three kitchen cabinets I built across the front as work and storage space for tools and spares when I go to the track. My trailer is an older model with a curved front wall, not the pointed ones you see now. Make sure you use tie down rings that are bolted through the floor and into the frame. I tie my car down any time it is in the trailer and do not rely on the hand brake or keeping it in gear. I use two stock tie down plates on the front and two more mounted to the rear spring U-bolts in the rear. I don't think tying to the front A-arm, rear axle or through the wheels is a reliable means to keep the car from moving about while towing. You also want something secure enough to hold the car in place if you ever have to make an emergency maneuver or have an accident. Make sure you chock the trailer tires on both sides and the front jack is adjusted to make the trailer level. Your issues would be different, of course, if you are only going to use the trailer for storage than if you will tow it to shows or to shops or use it for anything else, like moving college students, kids, parents, etc like I have. Don't forget the appropriately sized tow vehicle to handle the weight and braking. That's my experience and opinion. I can send you digital photos if you like. If you know Marc Palmer from MG Vintage Racers in Bethlehem, you might want to see the rig he uses for his MGA. Bob At 05:47 PM 5/24/2009 , Phil Nase wrote: >Anyone ever store a Sprite in an enclosed trailer? I've been looking >for a trailer for the Bugeye and thinking an enclosed trailer could at >least provide some car storage when not in use and free up my garage >in winter for my pickup. > >I'm in PA with wet, humid summers and wet cold winters. It seems >rust might be a big problem unless the trailer is vented some how. > >Also, in any form of trailer how much length is enough? I guess >ideally it should be long enough to have a lockable tool and spares >storage box. 14' or 16'? I'm trying to keep it as light as possible. > >I hope all you vets have a great Holiday tomorrow and Thanks. > >Phil Nase >Quakertown, PA From cclabaw at juno.com Sun May 24 18:16:39 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:16:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch Message-ID: <20090524.171639.16920.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Ron - I had this happen when I inadvertently installed different diameter wheel cylinders on the front brakes. Clay L. ---------- Original Message ---------- From: To: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] In a lurch Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:39:32 -0700 Has the "rubber" line at each wheel been replaced ...where they exist? Is there a second 'rubber' line in the rear between the body and the brake tubing that is anchored to the differential? ================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:56 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch This is regarding my street Bugeye, 1960 with stock suspension and 4 wheel drum brakes. When I hit the brake pedal, it lurches HARD to the left. Not a little drift - it snaps the steering wheel counterclockise. I have changed various elements one at a time over the past year, it's unchanged. I've changed: Brake pads Brake rubber line Wheel cylinders trunnion bushings Wheel bearings Brake pedal is hard and drums are adjusted like I always have, and the car used to have wonderful brakes. To check out the effect of weight shift under braking, I actually went down a hill in reverse fast enough to get the lurch effect and nailed the brakes and the car stopped fine and linearly. It's definitely something in the suspension in the front that acts up when the front is loaded. Any and all ideas are welcomed. The car looks stunning and goes like Ed to a "FREE BEER" sign, but I'm ready for a "Ran When Parked" advertisement. Ron _______________________________________________ You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Click to get free auto insurance quotes from top companies. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTImHaZVMCANrI3ljmvLxpIjNPxn lJ0Pz04XGnGii8UDwskHO6RnJe/ From millerls at ado13.com Sun May 24 18:19:26 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:19:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite storage In-Reply-To: <000901c9dcc6$493dc4f0$dbb94ed0$@net> References: <2DEE0E05-38C6-4A78-A052-C0AFCB8023E4@verizon.net> <000901c9dcc6$493dc4f0$dbb94ed0$@net> Message-ID: <45E03676-C288-42EF-A46C-98DFE87C669C@ado13.com> I have a 7x16 enclosed and park one of the Bugeye's in it. Of course I don't have to worry as much about the weather :-) On May 24, 2009, at 4:20 PM, cathey speichinger wrote: > I have a 7 x 16 enclosed trailer that Iris resides in to free up > space. > Plenty of room for her in it and is easily towed. I have been > playing with > the idea of presuurising it to keep out dust. A small computer fan > with a > filter should fit the bill nicely and for winter a small strip > heater should > keep down the moisture issue. Have never regretted buying it. > > Leo From shop at justbrits.com Sun May 24 18:22:05 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:22:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale In-Reply-To: <000b01c9dcc8$c6138df0$523aa9d0$@net> Message-ID: My EYES, my EYES, my EYES HAVE to be permanently DAMAGED, Cathey !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY did you SUBJECT us to TORTURE WORSE than waterboarding !!!!!!!! Allah wouldn't forgive them !!!!! <> The guys responsible ARE escapees from a MAXIMUM security mental health institution !!!!!! <> No self-respecting steam roller would even touch it !!!!!!!! From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 18:53:11 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 17:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch Message-ID: <248630.44295.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, cclabaw at juno.com wrote: > I had this happen when I inadvertently installed different > diameter wheel > cylinders on the front brakes. Thanks for the response, Cly. Not the case here, for sure. The old cylinders were replaced in 1999, and until a year ago everything was good until the lurching started. Replaced with new cylinders a few weeks ago, same behavior. Also forgot to mention shocks are new and rear behaves fine under hand braking. Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 24 19:01:26 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:01:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line In-Reply-To: <1C5241BD6742458FA019EB825C758505@kitchen> References: <1C5241BD6742458FA019EB825C758505@kitchen> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905241801l6815aeaft62bbb85a28a4a402@mail.gmail.com> Vern, VW fuel line works great. Also, if there is a BMW motorcycle dealer near you, they sell the same line as the VW stuff for older BMWs. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Vern wrote: > There was not to long ago a discussion about > how bad the chinese fuel line is. I can't find the > archive and don't remember what the solution was > to fine some good line. My B started flooding over > yesterday and sure enough there was little bits of line > in the fuel. I used Goodyear fuel injector line and thought > it would be good. Anyone or Frank if you are around what > line do you recommend? > Vern > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From pythias at pacifier.com Sun May 24 19:02:25 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:02:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale In-Reply-To: <000b01c9dcc8$c6138df0$523aa9d0$@net> References: <000b01c9dcc8$c6138df0$523aa9d0$@net> Message-ID: <1785592050.20090524180225@pacifier.com> Hello Leo, It's not a travesty. It's HIS car. He bought it. He owns it. It's his do do with as he pleases. While WE may not agree with HIS vision, It's still his car...... I used to feel this way about guys who found old cars in barns in near original condition, then chopped, channeled, sectioned, and frenched 'em. ..... I now realize it doesn't matter what I think is right all that matters is does the owner like it. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "What's this black stain round my mouth?" asked Tom succinctly. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 19:07:43 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite storage Message-ID: <921539.47278.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Bob Spruck wrote: > I have a Haulmark 16' dual axle > enclosed trailer Agree that 16 is fine. I have seen 14, it's really too tight - only 18 inches or so on either end. I have 18' enclosed with work/storage up front, it's downright palatial for a Sprite. Flounder's 28' warranted its own zip code. I've stored my green Bugeye in it for a winter or 2 parked on asphalt (snow) in Illinois with no ill effects. Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 24 19:12:24 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:12:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Races In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0905241812l4b15b4a5p2b28120697d0cbab@mail.gmail.com> Larry, My ritual for today was identical to yours only followed by the Red Wings crushing of the Blackhawks. I record all the F1 practice, qualifying and races on DVR Tivo. During qualifying Saturday Steve Matchet did a piece on the F1 car steering wheels and the myriad of adjustments a driver can make on the fly. After seeing that, I realized that my crummy experiences around Brands Hatch in a Lotus those many years ago don't amount to a row of dog poop!! Shifting through 8 or 9 gears, adjusting graduated brake bias front and rear with little dials (different for each and every corner), adjusting suspension settings also for each and every corner, knowing when to use the KERS, all while traveling at 180mph through a twisting snake of a track leaves me utterly speechless in amazement!! Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > One of my indulgences on the Memorial Day weekend is to watch the Indy 500 > and > the Formula One race. > > While I respect the skills of the Indy Car racers, I can't imagine another > motorsport that requires more skill and precise car control than that > exhibited by road course drivers and, especially, by those at the GP of > Monaco. These guys are incredible. I'll bet we all consider ourselves to > be > above average drivers, but these guys are absolutely humbling in their > skill. > I am still in awe after all these years of watching them. > > Someday, I need to go to Monte Carlo to watch this race in person. > > Congratulations to Helio Castroneves and Jensen Button. > > > Larry Daniels > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sun May 24 19:32:41 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:32:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mexico Message-ID: <37dc82d40905241832k26ba554av66d1183491b8c938@mail.gmail.com> Brad, Sounds like you are a couple hundred miles below Puerta Vellarta (sp)? Nice place! Kirk 59 Frog Aye From wmseverin at charter.net Sun May 24 19:34:38 2009 From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:34:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Races In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000d01c9dcd8$f7c1ce10$e7456a30$@net> I asked Bobby Rahal what corner scared him the most. He said..."I'll name 2. Turn 1 at Indianapolis where you have to convince yourself that you can make that corner at 225mph, and the Kink at Road America." > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:37 PM > To: Spridgets List; MG List > Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Races > > One of my indulgences on the Memorial Day weekend is to watch the Indy > 500 and > the Formula One race. > > While I respect the skills of the Indy Car racers, I can't imagine > another > motorsport that requires more skill and precise car control than that > exhibited by road course drivers and, especially, by those at the GP of > Monaco. These guys are incredible. I'll bet we all consider ourselves > to be > above average drivers, but these guys are absolutely humbling in their > skill. > I am still in awe after all these years of watching them. > > Someday, I need to go to Monte Carlo to watch this race in person. > > Congratulations to Helio Castroneves and Jensen Button. > > > Larry Daniels > _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 19:43:27 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch Message-ID: <949322.82266.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I just tried something else that didn't affect it. Took some pics just now in bad light - if anyone falls in love, this is as good a time as any to make me an offer. http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/Bugeye/ Ron --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Ron Soave wrote: > From: Ron Soave > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] In a lurch > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 7:53 PM > --- On Sun, 5/24/09, cclabaw at juno.com > > wrote: > > > I had this happen when I inadvertently installed > different > > diameter wheel > > cylinders on the front brakes. > > Thanks for the response, Cly. > > Not the case here, for sure. The old cylinders were > replaced in 1999, and until a year ago everything was good > until the lurching started. Replaced with new cylinders a > few weeks ago, same behavior. > > Also forgot to mention shocks are new and rear behaves fine > under hand braking. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 24 19:57:17 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:57:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale References: <000b01c9dcc8$c6138df0$523aa9d0$@net> <1785592050.20090524180225@pacifier.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale Hello Leo, It's not a travesty. It's HIS car. He bought it. He owns it. It's his do do with as he pleases. While WE may not agree with HIS vision, It's still his car...... I used to feel this way about guys who found old cars in barns in near original condition, then chopped, channeled, sectioned, and frenched 'em. ..... I now realize it doesn't matter what I think is right all that matters is does the owner like it. ========================= Bill, I've never had more ambivalent feelings on any topic than this. Three guys who's opinions I value and respect as much as anybody's and whom I have regular contact with are Ron Soave, Peter C and WST. I think we all have similar opinions in some respects and maybe waver a bit in others. Ron just missed buying an incredibly well done MGB GT with a V-8. Some would consider that sacrilege. WST told me how it was a steal at well above what it ending up selling for. If I had seen it for sale and didn't know Ron was bidding on it, I would have bought it. Some people would cringe at that car. I just bought a bunch of Aluminum V8s and trannies, etc. and will put one in my wife's MGB. And I don't care what anybody thinks about that. On the other hand, when I see a relatively rare and desirable car, I really hope that it stays in a relatively stock, original state for those who appreciate that. That just isn't always me. Sometimes, sometimes not. I don't have a problem with a Bugeye with a 1275 and disc brakes, etc., but really appreciate a dead stock BE. That's pretty cool, too. Larry D From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun May 24 20:04:17 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:04:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale In-Reply-To: <000b01c9dcc8$c6138df0$523aa9d0$@net> Message-ID: It's easy to get really bored in Iowa. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun May 24 20:05:40 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:05:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch In-Reply-To: <20090524.171639.16920.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Shoes are dry? From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun May 24 20:21:48 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:21:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <949322.82266.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <949322.82266.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1A1B464C1BBA465A9860CF02F0C508E9@spider> The parking brake is on!! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:43 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch I just tried something else that didn't affect it. Took some pics just now in bad light - if anyone falls in love, this is as good a time as any to make me an offer. http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/Bugeye/ Ron From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun May 24 20:21:26 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:21:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Races References: <000d01c9dcd8$f7c1ce10$e7456a30$@net> Message-ID: I never raced at Indy (IRP doesn't count) but I've done a whole bunch of laps at RA. I did the kink at a little better than 130 mph (Rahal and his pals did it at 170 -- yikes and holy sh_t). I realized after a few laps that I was lifting a little bit for that corner when I didn't need to. One part of my my mind was telling me that I couldn't make it at that speed, but another part of it was saying, "Go for it, you chicken shit". I ended up putting my left foot on top of my right to hold the gas pedal down so I couldn't unconsciously lift. Scared the crap out of me at first. I absolutely agree with Bobby on that one. Nothing like that to make you feel like you are alive, though. Damn, I miss that stuff. Larry D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" To: "'Larry Daniels'" ; "'Spridgets List'" ; "'MG List'" Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] 2 Races I asked Bobby Rahal what corner scared him the most. He said..."I'll name 2. Turn 1 at Indianapolis where you have to convince yourself that you can make that corner at 225mph, and the Kink at Road America." > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 6:37 PM > To: Spridgets List; MG List > Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Races > > One of my indulgences on the Memorial Day weekend is to watch the Indy > 500 and > the Formula One race. > > While I respect the skills of the Indy Car racers, I can't imagine > another > motorsport that requires more skill and precise car control than that > exhibited by road course drivers and, especially, by those at the GP of > Monaco. These guys are incredible. I'll bet we all consider ourselves > to be > above average drivers, but these guys are absolutely humbling in their > skill. > I am still in awe after all these years of watching them. > > Someday, I need to go to Monte Carlo to watch this race in person. > > Congratulations to Helio Castroneves and Jensen Button. > > > Larry Daniels > _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 20:26:27 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:26:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch Message-ID: <138865.55269.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Billy Zoom wrote: > Shoes are dry? Both mine and the car's, yes. Ron From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 24 20:35:57 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 22:35:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese fuel line In-Reply-To: <1C5241BD6742458FA019EB825C758505@kitchen> References: <1C5241BD6742458FA019EB825C758505@kitchen> Message-ID: <4A1A040D.9010905@comcast.net> VW fuel line. 5mm. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 20:35:35 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch Message-ID: <955083.2782.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Paul Asgeirsson wrote: > Are all the pistons free? Yes. They are new ones. > What about even a tiny bit of oil or brake fluid on the > drum. Dry. I've had that happen before in 1999 (any many times on the race car rear drums from axle juice), it doesn't act anywhere near this drastic. > Don't overlook a possibility of the front wheel bearings > starting to fail, That's what I think it is. I changed bearings last night but I think the hub may be worn. I can detect play. Again, in reverse it doesn't happen. > or a possibly pinched brake line as a result of something > heavy resting on > them or the rubber hoses starting to fail or plugging up. New ones on front. Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 20:40:55 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch Message-ID: <103991.25536.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > The parking brake is on!! The braking problem doesn't manifest itself when the car isn't moving. Ron From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 24 20:44:47 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 22:44:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch In-Reply-To: <284962.75730.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <284962.75730.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A1A061F.10600@comcast.net> Does it pull at all when you are going straight, not braking? If so, I would tend to say it's something in the brakes. Chinese brake hoses? hell, the fuel line they make is shit, hell, EVERYTHING they make is shit. Speaking of chinese shit, they tenax studs on the Holy Sprite have turned to solid rust. More top quality from shit-brit. Are they 6 months old yet? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 24 20:51:30 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 22:51:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <949322.82266.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <949322.82266.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A1A07B2.60101@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > I just tried something else that didn't affect it. Took some pics just now in > bad light - if anyone falls in love, this is as good a time as any to make me > an offer. > Wrong coil, wrong carb, wrong door pockets, geeze it looks like most of mine :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sun May 24 20:56:09 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 22:56:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale In-Reply-To: <000b01c9dcc8$c6138df0$523aa9d0$@net> References: <000b01c9dcc8$c6138df0$523aa9d0$@net> Message-ID: <4A1A08C9.8060800@comcast.net> cathey speichinger wrote: > Ebay # 170333662460 What a TOTAL screw up of a bugeye. Just look in the driveway, he has a john deere and a miata, what do you expect ;) just ed From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 20:53:40 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale Message-ID: <312255.29587.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > Ron just missed buying an incredibly well done MGB GT with > a V-8. Some > would consider that sacrilege. WST told me how it was > a steal I don't think anyone could quibble with taking an RB 74.5 BGT and doing what this guy did. The owner paid $19K last year and put another $3500 into it. The new owner races Healeys (anyone here?), so it's going to a good home (not to someone who can't figure out the world's simplest braking and suspension systems!) Ebay Item number: 130303514673 Restoration http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359 at N06/sets/72157617614224078/show/ Engine/Interior http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359 at N06/sets/72157617524612711/show/ Underside http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359 at N06/sets/72157617524183097/show/ Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 20:55:08 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 19:55:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch Message-ID: <741490.14259.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Frank wrote: > Wrong coil, wrong carb, wrong door pockets, geeze it looks > like most of mine :) Yours all brake in a straight line. Ron From pilotrob at webtv.net Sun May 24 21:06:15 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 03:06:15 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Electronic Available Reference List Message-ID: Cats? :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From soavero at yahoo.com Sun May 24 21:38:31 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale Message-ID: <598044.53070.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Flickr photos now start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359 at N06/page6/ --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Ron Soave wrote: > From: Ron Soave > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] another E= Bay joke for sale > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 9:53 PM > --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Larry Daniels > > wrote: > > Ron just > missed buying an incredibly well done MGB GT with > > a V-8. Some > > would > consider that sacrilege. WST told me how it was > > a steal > > I don't think > anyone could quibble with taking an RB 74.5 BGT and doing > what this guy did. > The owner paid $19K last year and put another $3500 into > it. The new owner > races Healeys (anyone here?), so it's going to a good home > (not to someone who > can't figure out the world's simplest braking and > suspension systems!) > > Ebay > Item number: 130303514673 > > Restoration > http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359 at N06/sets/72157617614224078/show/ > Engine/Interior > http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359 at N06/sets/72157617524612711/show/ > Underside > http://www.flickr.com/photos/8292359 at N06/sets/72157617524183097/show/ > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun May 24 22:07:18 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery gasket (help me ID, please) Message-ID: <395237.30977.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Ron Soave wrote: Another thing, just to be certain - when banging out the pan, I know 2 different people who banged out the intentional dent for the dipstick! Thanks for the note Ron, but I did leave that one in there! - David From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun May 24 22:15:18 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:15:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cast Impeller Water Pump Message-ID: This subject came up last week. This week only, the B-Hive is selling cast impeller water pumps for less than 27 bucks. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 24 22:30:58 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:30:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mexico In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905241832k26ba554av66d1183491b8c938@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905241832k26ba554av66d1183491b8c938@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905242130j2b32c7beu219089ee79977f6@mail.gmail.com> Brad (off list) Where do you want me to send the guns and other stuff..... Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Brad, > > > Sounds like you are a couple hundred miles below Puerta Vellarta (sp)? > > Nice place! > > Kirk > 59 Frog Aye From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun May 24 22:35:52 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:35:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <741490.14259.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <741490.14259.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905242135m45a6c953md47281b8efec15ba@mail.gmail.com> In WWII they coined a phrase for things like this.... Gremlins!! You have a Gremlin living in the front left!! Sorry I can't be more help. Have you considered Exorcism? Cheers!! Jim On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Frank wrote: > > Wrong coil, wrong carb, wrong door pockets, geeze it looks > > like most of mine :) > > Yours all brake in a straight line. > > Ron > _______ From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sun May 24 22:37:01 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 22:37:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch In-Reply-To: <284962.75730.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <284962.75730.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Ron Soave wrote: This is regarding my street Bugeye, 1960 with stock suspension and 4 wheel drum brakes. When I hit the brake pedal, it lurches HARD to the left. Not a little drift - it snaps the steering wheel counterclockise. I have changed various elements one at a time over the past year, it's unchanged. I've changed: Have you inspected the A-frames for cracks? Look below the gudgeon pin on the back side of the A-frame going from the pin to the bottom of the A-frame... They have a tendancy to crack there and it could manifest itself that way. I'd check the one on the left first. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Sun May 24 22:40:57 2009 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 00:40:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Chinese Car in a crash test Message-ID: Speaking of Chinese crap, have you seen the Crash test on one of their new cars? This would even scare off the Wee Tight Crowd. Greg Higgins ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5SRyG6UR2A From billmasq at hotmail.com Sun May 24 22:44:20 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:44:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch In-Reply-To: <0DA345F6002E49F4A32ED46F8C7112F0@spider> References: <284962.75730.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0DA345F6002E49F4A32ED46F8C7112F0@spider> Message-ID: I am going to guess that your front brake SHOES are not truly put in "mirror image" and that the longer flat on one of your shoes is incorrect causing more lock-up on one side than the other. You may want to verify that the shoes were put on absolutely correctly and that one is not upside-down. BillM > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:39:32 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] In a lurch > > Has the "rubber" line at each wheel been replaced ...where they exist? > Is there a second 'rubber' line in the rear between the body and the brake > tubing that is anchored to the differential? > ================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:56 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch > > This is regarding my street Bugeye, 1960 with stock suspension and 4 wheel > drum brakes. When I hit the brake pedal, it lurches HARD to the left. Not a > little drift - it snaps the steering wheel counterclockise. I have changed > various elements one at a time over the past year, it's unchanged. I've > changed: > > Brake pads > Brake rubber line > Wheel cylinders > trunnion bushings > Wheel bearings > > Brake pedal is hard and drums are adjusted like I always have, and the car > used to have wonderful brakes. > > To check out the effect of weight shift under braking, I actually went down > a hill in reverse fast enough to get the lurch effect and nailed the brakes > and the car stopped fine and linearly. It's definitely something in the > suspension in the front that acts up when the front is loaded. Any and all > ideas are welcomed. The car looks stunning and goes like Ed to a "FREE BEER" > sign, but I'm ready for a "Ran When Parked" advertisement. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial _Storage1_052009 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun May 24 22:55:09 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 21:55:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cast Impeller Water Pump Message-ID: BTW, here is the link. http://www.thebhive.com/00MGWEEKLYwebspecial.htm Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From soavero at yahoo.com Mon May 25 00:53:08 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 23:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch Message-ID: <804530.88642.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I actually went to church and convinced my son to pray for the car. IT never works at the racetrack either. I re-loaded, re-shimmed wheel bearings. I think I'm actually getting passable at that procedure. Verified brakes are same material. Made sure pads were centered. Dialed them in to the definition of "light drag". The more I dial in the other stuff, the worse it seems to get. I have definitely isolated a 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock rocking motion on the wheel, like a Dwight Gooden curveball before he discovered crack. Is that kingpins or bearings/hubs? --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > From: Jim Johnson > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch > To: "Ron Soave" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 11:35 PM > In WWII they coined a phrase for > things like this.... Gremlins!! You have a Gremlin > living in the front left!! > > Sorry I can't be more help. Have you considered > Exorcism? > > Cheers!! > Jim From nases at verizon.net Mon May 25 05:24:39 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:24:39 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite storage In-Reply-To: <921539.47278.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <921539.47278.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks all for the tailer tips. I'm seeing 7 and 8.5 foot widths. The 8 foot would be a concern for me on some back roads, is 7 enough? I also see a lot of manufacturers some small, some larger national. Any reason to avoid certain trailers. Any other features I might overlook while searching? If I can't find a used one locally I may have to buy before I can see it. I want to be sure it's got what I need. Thanks. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On May 24, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Bob Spruck wrote: >> I have a Haulmark 16' dual axle >> enclosed trailer > > Agree that 16 is fine. I have seen 14, it's really too tight - only > 18 inches or so on either end. I have 18' enclosed with work/storage > up front, it's downright palatial for a Sprite. Flounder's 28' > warranted its own zip code. I've stored my green Bugeye in it for a > winter or 2 parked on asphalt (snow) in Illinois with no ill effects. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nases at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmseverin at charter.net Mon May 25 05:33:45 2009 From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 06:33:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 2 Races In-Reply-To: References: <000d01c9dcd8$f7c1ce10$e7456a30$@net> Message-ID: <001501c9dd2c$aa1df7c0$fe59e740$@net> Back in the days when VSCDA raced at IRP, we used to have a parade over to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway in our race cars, and they let us out on to the track for 3 or 4 laps. Of course, we weren't allowed "racing speeds", but trust me that we going about as fast as we could without getting kicked out of there. I was struck by the narrow tunnel feeling of the main straightaway and pictured it packed with people on race day. The other impression was how little banking exists in the corners on that track. It was very obvious that those guys are on the edge of adhesion lap after lap after lap, and those walls loom close (and hard). At the Kink, I've had guys hit the brakes right in front of me, had faster guys execute a very unsafe pass there, leaving me no place to go, been forced off into the grass at full throttle, and also have come up on cars spun in the middle of the track upon exit. You can sprain your sphincter on a regular basis on that corner. WST > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:21 PM > To: Wm. Severin Thompson; 'Spridgets List'; 'MG List' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 Races > > I never raced at Indy (IRP doesn't count) but I've done a whole bunch > of > laps at RA. I did the kink at a little better than 130 mph (Rahal and > his > pals did it at 170 -- yikes and holy sh_t). I realized after a few > laps > that I was lifting a little bit for that corner when I didn't need to. > One > part of my my mind was telling me that I couldn't make it at that > speed, but > another part of it was saying, "Go for it, you chicken shit". I ended > up > putting my left foot on top of my right to hold the gas pedal down so I > couldn't unconsciously lift. Scared the crap out of me at first. I > absolutely agree with Bobby on that one. Nothing like that to make you > feel > like you are alive, though. Damn, I miss that stuff. > > Larry D From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon May 25 05:56:15 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 04:56:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch Message-ID: <4ab601c9dd2f$cec506b0$116a010a@mail2world.com> Ron, >From bottom to top, it might be the fulcrum pin in the wishbone, the kingpin bushings, or the trunion bushings. Someone else mentioned a cracked wishbone, could be that at the fulcrum pin. Take the drum back off and see if you can find any movement in the suspension... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Ron Soave [soavero at yahoo.com] >Sent: 5/25/2009 2:54:08 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch > >I actually went to church and convinced my son to pray for the car. IT never >works at the racetrack either. > >I re-loaded, re-shimmed wheel bearings. I think I'm actually getting passable at >that procedure. Verified brakes are same material. Made sure pads were centered. >Dialed them in to the definition of "light drag". The more I dial in the other >stuff, the worse it seems to get. I have definitely isolated a 12 o'clock to 6 >o'clock rocking motion on the wheel, like a Dwight Gooden curveball before he >discovered crack. Is that kingpins or bearings/hubs? > > > >. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon May 25 06:46:37 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 05:46:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When I hit the brake pedal, it lurches HARD to the left. Could it be the right side not working, rather than the left side grabbing?? From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 25 07:42:13 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:42:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <949322.82266.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <949322.82266.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905250642i4bcba632ua8f92fbee60514d5@mail.gmail.com> Nice pictures looks like brown but the gas tank picture shows green. Wasn't there a brown for the Bugeye one year? Lin On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > I just tried something else that didn't affect it. Took some pics just now > in > bad light - if anyone falls in love, this is as good a time as any to make > me > an offer. > > http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/Bugeye/ > > Ron > > --- > On Sun, 5/24/09, Ron Soave wrote: > > > From: Ron Soave > > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] In a lurch > > To: > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 7:53 PM > > --- On Sun, > 5/24/09, cclabaw at juno.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > I had this > happen when I inadvertently installed > > different > > > diameter wheel > > > > cylinders on the front brakes. > > > > Thanks for the response, Cly. > > > > Not the > case here, for sure. The old cylinders were > > replaced in 1999, and until a > year ago everything was good > > until the lurching started. Replaced with new > cylinders a > > few weeks ago, same behavior. > > > > Also forgot to mention > shocks are new and rear behaves fine > > under hand braking. > > > > Ron > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon May 25 08:59:32 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch Message-ID: <337949.53927.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Nice pictures looks like brown > but the gas tank picture shows green. It's Aston Martin "New Racing Green". No one has ever mistaken it for brown before - Check that video card. Ron From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon May 25 09:14:26 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 10:14:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mexico In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40905241832k26ba554av66d1183491b8c938@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905241832k26ba554av66d1183491b8c938@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You are right, it is wonderful. Anyone interested in a few photos, hit me offlist. Brad On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Brad, > > > Sounds like you are a couple hundred miles below Puerta Vellarta (sp)? > > Nice place! > > Kirk > 59 Frog Aye > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon May 25 09:20:26 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 10:20:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mexico In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0905242130j2b32c7beu219089ee79977f6@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40905241832k26ba554av66d1183491b8c938@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905242130j2b32c7beu219089ee79977f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I know you kid, but think about it.... $20,000 one time payment for a 99 year lease on the beach (at least that is what they are at Tenacatita) and 75K will give you a 3500 square foot home, probably even with a pool. Most of us could sell our homes, and come up with 100K. Sell a few more things, and you have spending money for your retirement years. Maybe it just me, but after being here a few times, that doesn't seem like such a bad idea. On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Brad (off list) > > Where do you want me to send the guns and other stuff..... > > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Kirk Hargreaves >wrote: > > > Brad, > > > > > > Sounds like you are a couple hundred miles below Puerta Vellarta (sp)? > > > > Nice place! > > > > Kirk > > 59 Frog Aye > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon May 25 09:40:56 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 08:40:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <0DA345F6002E49F4A32ED46F8C7112F0@spider> References: <284962.75730.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0DA345F6002E49F4A32ED46F8C7112F0@spider> Message-ID: I am going to guess that your front brake SHOES are not truly put in "mirror image" and that the longer flat on one of your shoes is incorrect causing more lock-up on one side than the other. You may want to verify that the shoes were put on absolutely correctly and that one is not upside-down. BillM > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 16:39:32 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] In a lurch > > Has the "rubber" line at each wheel been replaced ...where they exist? > Is there a second 'rubber' line in the rear between the body and the brake > tubing that is anchored to the differential? > ================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 3:56 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] In a lurch > > This is regarding my street Bugeye, 1960 with stock suspension and 4 wheel > drum brakes. When I hit the brake pedal, it lurches HARD to the left. Not a > little drift - it snaps the steering wheel counterclockise. I have changed > various elements one at a time over the past year, it's unchanged. I've > changed: > > Brake pads > Brake rubber line > Wheel cylinders > trunnion bushings > Wheel bearings > > Brake pedal is hard and drums are adjusted like I always have, and the car > used to have wonderful brakes. > > To check out the effect of weight shift under braking, I actually went down > a hill in reverse fast enough to get the lurch effect and nailed the brakes > and the car stopped fine and linearly. It's definitely something in the > suspension in the front that acts up when the front is loaded. Any and all > ideas are welcomed. The car looks stunning and goes like Ed to a "FREE BEER" > sign, but I'm ready for a "Ran When Parked" advertisement. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Hotmail. has ever-growing storage! Dont worry about storage limits. Check it out. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon May 25 10:21:30 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 09:21:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <337949.53927.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <337949.53927.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron, My Bugeye does the exact same thing as yours under hard braking. It throws the car to the left. I have the original drums all way round too. I also have a noise coming from the front suspension when I brake sometimes like a pin or bolt is shifting in one of the bushings. It can't be much movement because I don't feel it, but you can hear it. Also my brakes need more pressure on the pedal to stop these days. I got all new cylinders, shoes and flexible hoses from Ed last year, but have not had the time to install everything, but you got me thinking I should make the time. I also need to change out the bushings, so maybe I will find out what the "noise" is too. Too bad you can't find anyone that arcs brake shoes around here anymore. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > Nice pictures looks like brown > > but the gas tank picture shows green. > > It's Aston Martin "New Racing Green". No one has ever mistaken it for brown > before - Check that video card. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bpazur at excel.net Mon May 25 13:52:20 2009 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:52:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Kind of Lurch Message-ID: <000a01c9dd72$68a8c130$4fe767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH> I need some suggestions. At the end of last riding season, My Bug was running fine, after I discovered a small piece of rubber tubing stuck in the outlet of the front float chamber. This Spring, it doesn't run at all. It spits, misses, backfires horribly. I tore the carbs apart (1275 w/ 2 HS2s). I blew air backwards thru the jets, etc. No change. Funny thing, it idles beautifully, and in the garage, it revs beautifully. About 11 deg at idle, and 30 deg full max. So I looked at the electrical side. I made sure the plugs weren't fouled, and the wires weren't grounding on anything. No change. I've got a brand new gas filter, a Facet pump and a Purolator regulator. What is my problem? Any help appreciated. Bud From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 25 13:16:43 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 15:16:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help carb question....youtubes posted Message-ID: <205cef430905251216w51f097cfy2add4ec3f7bcfbad@mail.gmail.com> Frank & List, I'm a bit rusty on carburetor techniques and knowledge but as I recall when I video taped Lady Bug Frank showed me how to tell if my carbs needed to be adjusted via the jet adjustment nut. The video I made of how he adjusts the jets is at school so I'm roughing it now. I thought he said both pistons should move up and down at the same time when I move the throttle or maybe it was the choke? Well ether way nether piston moves when I manually move ether the throttle or the choke levers. Am I getting all this wrong? What should I do next? I am thinking it might be worth spending $40.00 on one of those SU videos they are 2 hrs long and should go over everything I should know. Any thoughts? I am nursing an injured back this weekend so I'm not even going to drive her today but feeling well enough to tinker and feel like I got something done all weekend. Lin My youtubes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urbWruodIAk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbkT49EDzpY From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon May 25 13:27:30 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 14:27:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mexico In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40905241832k26ba554av66d1183491b8c938@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905242130j2b32c7beu219089ee79977f6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0905251227s550ee451g30c8212e93cc4a08@mail.gmail.com> Apparently you haven't had intimate relations with the Federales yet...... Have a good friend in the Houston area that did exactly that a few years back near Manazitlan. They were happy to get back to Tomball with their skin intact in 2007. They've got their Social Security still and a few dribbles of income from other sources but the bulk of their retirement is still on the beach in Mexico. Somebody in the government down there liked it better than they did. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I know you kid, but think about it.... > $20,000 one time payment for a 99 year lease on the beach (at least that is > what they are at Tenacatita) and 75K will give you a 3500 square foot home, > probably even with a pool. Most of us could sell our homes, and come up with > 100K. Sell a few more things, and you have spending money for your > retirement years. > Maybe it just me, but after being here a few times, that doesn't seem like > such a bad idea. > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> Brad (off list) >> >> Where do you want me to send the guns and other stuff..... >> > > >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Kirk Hargreaves > >wrote: >> >> > Brad, >> > >> > >> > Sounds like you are a couple hundred miles below Puerta Vellarta (sp)? >> > >> > Nice place! From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon May 25 13:33:45 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 12:33:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye on Humboldt CA Craigslist $1500 Message-ID: NFI - pointed out on BCF: http://humboldt.craigslist.org/cto/1186184874.html Somebody needs to grab this. Rick (got too many projects) Bastedo From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon May 25 13:54:03 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 15:54:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Need help carb question....youtubes posted In-Reply-To: <205cef430905251216w51f097cfy2add4ec3f7bcfbad@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430905251216w51f097cfy2add4ec3f7bcfbad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430905251254m508d4a23rb3da51672e29ef1b@mail.gmail.com> I didn't try it with the engine on and now as you can see with the engine on the carb pistons do move together as I accelerate. But it appears the right piston is slow to move. How do I clean them do I use bright pads and oil so it moves freely? Lin youtube post http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iM4VI7ME0A On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Frank & List, > I'm a bit rusty on carburetor techniques and knowledge but as I recall when > I video taped Lady Bug Frank showed me how to tell if my carbs needed to be > adjusted via the jet adjustment nut. The video I made of how he adjusts the > jets is at school so I'm roughing it now. I thought he said both pistons > should move up and down at the same time when I move the throttle or maybe > it was the choke? Well ether way nether piston moves when I manually move > ether the throttle or the choke levers. Am I getting all this wrong? What > should I do next? I am thinking it might be worth spending $40.00 on one of > those SU videos they are 2 hrs long and should go over everything I should > know. > Any thoughts? I am nursing an injured back this weekend so I'm not even > going to drive her today but feeling well enough to tinker and feel like I > got something done all weekend. > Lin > My youtubes > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urbWruodIAk > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbkT49EDzpY From soavero at yahoo.com Mon May 25 17:23:03 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FW: In a lurch Message-ID: <94266.91639.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Bill Masquelier wrote: > I am going to guess that your front > brake SHOES are not truly put in "mirror > image" and that the longer flat on one of your shoes is > incorrect causing more > lock-up on one side than the other. Leading edges are in the correct orientation (can they be installed wrong in a dual cylinder drum?? As Paul A would say, I thought "they only go one way"). As I asked earlier, what is the source of "12 to 6" rocking of the wheel? That's what I have found. As I mentioned a few times, it is doing exactly what I it was doing when I started changing things after working perfectly for years. I'm looking for something I didn't touch, like kingpins or other bushings. I really doubt it is the brakes. It is the loading of the front suspension that causes the lurch like the geometry is taking a new set. It's like I have found with worn hubs/bearing on the race car, but with that I didn't feel it until the bearings were absolutely trashed and literally welded to the spindles (Larry and Peter can vouch for this!). Ron From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon May 25 18:13:43 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 17:13:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] I think I need the secret password In-Reply-To: <4A1B2CE4.6020504@5thelement.com> References: <4A1B1513.8030005@5thelement.com>, <002301c9dd89$b2faaac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>, <4A1B2CE4.6020504@5thelement.com> Message-ID: <4A1AD1C7.1664.37E743@kk7ss.verizon.net> For what it's worth... (about 3cents!) Take off the wheel. Bearing play will be an obvious movement between the axle stub and the brake drum Kingpin play can be observed by looking at the movement of the upper part of the swivel axle relative to the upper A-frame (usually!). Also check for Fulcrumpin movement in the lower A-frame.. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon May 25 18:15:03 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 17:15:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oops.. that should have been sent to the "lurch" ... Message-ID: <4A1AD217.11361.392185@kk7ss.verizon.net> -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon May 25 19:02:25 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 20:02:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mexico References: <37dc82d40905241832k26ba554av66d1183491b8c938@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0905242130j2b32c7beu219089ee79977f6@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0905251227s550ee451g30c8212e93cc4a08@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9AE3BC9562CB4782971796E1E52F3CBF@Larry> I'm with Jim on this one. Many years ago I was a real estate investor with 10 buildings in my local area. I looked at the Mexican market since the cash flow appeared to be very good (not to mention I was able to write off a trip to Cancun and Cozumel as a business expense). The only problem was that you could buy the properties with an American real estate loan, but the property was subject to the Mexican government nationalizing it whenever they wanted. All of a sudden you could lose your property with no recourse, but still had a mortgage on it with an American bank. No... I don't think so. Adios. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mexico Apparently you haven't had intimate relations with the Federales yet...... Have a good friend in the Houston area that did exactly that a few years back near Manazitlan. They were happy to get back to Tomball with their skin intact in 2007. They've got their Social Security still and a few dribbles of income from other sources but the bulk of their retirement is still on the beach in Mexico. Somebody in the government down there liked it better than they did. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I know you kid, but think about it.... > $20,000 one time payment for a 99 year lease on the beach (at least that > is > what they are at Tenacatita) and 75K will give you a 3500 square foot > home, > probably even with a pool. Most of us could sell our homes, and come up > with > 100K. Sell a few more things, and you have spending money for your > retirement years. > Maybe it just me, but after being here a few times, that doesn't seem like > such a bad idea. > > On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon May 25 19:44:02 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 21:44:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding sequence In-Reply-To: <007101c9dd9d$59f37060$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <4A1B1513.8030005@5thelement.com> <002301c9dd89$b2faaac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <4A1B2CE4.6020504@5thelement.com> <4A1AD1C7.1664.37E743@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4A1B3C33.8030601@5thelement.com> <007101c9dd9d$59f37060$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: My new BE has a rolling tub, which I will strip for painting, etc. All the suspension and rolling gear will be redone as needed. What things are best done on the car (for leverage, or?) and what is easier done off the car? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Bugeye kit Long Island, NY From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Mon May 25 20:06:47 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 20:06:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <94266.91639.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <94266.91639.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron said: As I asked earlier, what is the source of "12 to 6" rocking of the wheel? That's what I have found. Something to check but not real likely is the shock mounting bolts. Make sure they are tight and not stripped. I have seen it once or twice... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From spritenut at comcast.net Mon May 25 20:22:28 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:22:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rebuilding sequence In-Reply-To: References: <4A1B1513.8030005@5thelement.com> <002301c9dd89$b2faaac0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> <4A1B2CE4.6020504@5thelement.com> <4A1AD1C7.1664.37E743@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4A1B3C33.8030601@5thelement.com> <007101c9dd9d$59f37060$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: <4A1B5264.40509@comcast.net> Michael Rowe wrote: > My new BE has a rolling tub, which I will strip for painting, etc. All the suspension and rolling gear will be redone as needed. What things are best done on the car (for leverage, or?) and what is easier done off the car? > > It's all easier off the car except the diff pinion nut if you do not have an impact wrench. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon May 25 20:22:02 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:22:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <804530.88642.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <804530.88642.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <34377456-27BC-45C4-AEFC-E13A3E9D0B8F@phillymgclub.com> Ron, Did ya check the rear suspension?? If the rubbers that mount the springs are shot, or the shackles are loose, the car will veer to one side (I think left) under braking as the rear axle will move and throw the car to the side. Mash the rubbers by tightening the shackle U- Bolts and see if that cures it (bet it will) Then replace with new. Don't ask me how I know. Larry On May 25, 2009, at 2:53 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > I actually went to church and convinced my son to pray for the car. > IT never works at the racetrack either. > > I re-loaded, re-shimmed wheel bearings. I think I'm actually getting > passable at that procedure. Verified brakes are same material. Made > sure pads were centered. Dialed them in to the definition of "light > drag". The more I dial in the other stuff, the worse it seems to > get. I have definitely isolated a 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock rocking > motion on the wheel, like a Dwight Gooden curveball before he > discovered crack. Is that kingpins or bearings/hubs? > > --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> From: Jim Johnson >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch >> To: "Ron Soave" >> Cc: "Spridgets" >> Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 11:35 PM >> In WWII they coined a phrase for >> things like this.... Gremlins!! You have a Gremlin >> living in the front left!! >> >> Sorry I can't be more help. Have you considered >> Exorcism? >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon May 25 20:37:32 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 22:37:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <804530.88642.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <804530.88642.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <234072EE-DD08-4E94-A9C1-0B4EE671CAF1@phillymgclub.com> Ron, Did ya check the rear suspension?? If the rubbers that mount the springs are shot, or the shackles are loose, the car will veer to one side (I think left) under braking as the rear axle will move and throw the car to the side. Mash the rubbers by tightening the shackle U- Bolts and see if that cures it (bet it will) Then replace with new. Don't ask me how I know. Larry On May 25, 2009, at 2:53 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > I actually went to church and convinced my son to pray for the car. > IT never works at the racetrack either. > > I re-loaded, re-shimmed wheel bearings. I think I'm actually getting > passable at that procedure. Verified brakes are same material. Made > sure pads were centered. Dialed them in to the definition of "light > drag". The more I dial in the other stuff, the worse it seems to > get. I have definitely isolated a 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock rocking > motion on the wheel, like a Dwight Gooden curveball before he > discovered crack. Is that kingpins or bearings/hubs? > > --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> From: Jim Johnson >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch >> To: "Ron Soave" >> Cc: "Spridgets" >> Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 11:35 PM >> In WWII they coined a phrase for >> things like this.... Gremlins!! You have a Gremlin >> living in the front left!! >> >> Sorry I can't be more help. Have you considered >> Exorcism? >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon May 25 21:22:31 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 23:22:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch In-Reply-To: <234072EE-DD08-4E94-A9C1-0B4EE671CAF1@phillymgclub.com> References: <804530.88642.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <234072EE-DD08-4E94-A9C1-0B4EE671CAF1@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <3307DE4C-CB2F-4922-89EF-59FF86CD9D41@phillymgclub.com> Opps, sorry to send twice. Larry On May 25, 2009, at 10:37 PM, Larry Macy wrote: > Ron, > > Did ya check the rear suspension?? If the rubbers that mount the > springs are shot, or the shackles are loose, the car will veer to one > side (I think left) under braking as the rear axle will move and throw > the car to the side. Mash the rubbers by tightening the shackle U- > Bolts and see if that cures it (bet it will) Then replace with new. > > Don't ask me how I know. > > Larry > > On May 25, 2009, at 2:53 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > >> I actually went to church and convinced my son to pray for the car. >> IT never works at the racetrack either. >> >> I re-loaded, re-shimmed wheel bearings. I think I'm actually getting >> passable at that procedure. Verified brakes are same material. Made >> sure pads were centered. Dialed them in to the definition of "light >> drag". The more I dial in the other stuff, the worse it seems to >> get. I have definitely isolated a 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock rocking >> motion on the wheel, like a Dwight Gooden curveball before he >> discovered crack. Is that kingpins or bearings/hubs? >> >> --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Jim Johnson wrote: >> >>> From: Jim Johnson >>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Culprit photos- Re: In a lurch >>> To: "Ron Soave" >>> Cc: "Spridgets" >>> Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 11:35 PM >>> In WWII they coined a phrase for >>> things like this.... Gremlins!! You have a Gremlin >>> living in the front left!! >>> >>> Sorry I can't be more help. Have you considered >>> Exorcism? >>> >>> Cheers!! >>> Jim >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a > parked car. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon May 25 22:04:50 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 21:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] I learned something tonight and thought I'd pass it along Message-ID: <560688.36952.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When you are putting a new rubber boot on your clutch fork, do it on the bench before you mount the fork. Silly me, I mounted the fork, then spent at least fifteen very frustrating minutes under the car trying to stretch the boot over the outside end of the fork. I used vaseline, tried sticking a screwdriver up in there to guide the rubber over the end, and anything else I could think of - all to no avail. I then removed the fork, clamped it in my vice, and the boot slipped over in about 2 seconds. All the vaseline may have helped, but it is WAY easier to do it on the bench and then fit the boot to the hole afterward. Yeah, I know, all of you probably knew this years ago. Just thought I'd pass it along in case there was another dummy like me out there. I may be slow, but I eventually get there. David Booker '71 Midget slowly progressing toward being back together Long Island From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon May 25 23:35:32 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 01:35:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I learned something tonight and thought I'd pass it along References: <560688.36952.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tonight I learned that the trim screw mounting hole postions for the interior panels of a Bugeye vary slightly from vehicle to vehicle. Presumably this was up to the whim of the production line person. As a consequence, I also learned that the original set of red panels that I have are not original to my car. I do have one original black kick panel, but I have not checked if it's holes line up. It would be nice if the black panel fit as I have already gone with black for the interior. To drill properly aligned holes in the new panels that I made, I took a few junk screws and cut the heads off. Using vise grips, I would then screw these into the existing holes and then place the new panel up againt them. Tapping the panel lightly with a mallet would then leave a depression that I could drill. Seemed easier than drilling new holes. I also found some more original OEW paint on my car's front frame while I was preparing to paint in that area. Having now seen the colors side by side, I am convinced more than ever that Rustoleum "Antique White