From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 05:56:24 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 04:56:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
Message-ID: <396208.45659.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Great interview with our own Billy Zoom on Fox News' Red Eye. No mention of LBCs, but he was thinkin' it, I'm sure:

http://elitecastingnetwork.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=260312

Ron

From grday at btinternet.com  Mon Jun  1 06:09:02 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:09:02 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Crappy cheap Chinese cameras - you get what you pay
 for!
References: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJEEJADGAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <9C9BF413DF21412FAC1158873D90DE46@dell330>

Anon,

I've never heated up an iron hot enough to brand a lens. <smile>

GRD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Crappy cheap Chinese cameras - you get what you pay 
for!


> <<Do you know of any half decent Digital SLRs that will take an old 
> lens?>>
>
> Guy, what BRAND of lenses???
>
> Doh !!!
>
> LOL
>
> Anon
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 06:10:50 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:10:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
Message-ID: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

CRAP!  I JUST missed seeing Billy.  The link said New York City May 29-31. 
What is today?  June 1st.  Man - I guess I need to try to be more in touch
with what's going on outside the garage.
 
Sorry I missed you Billy, I would have loved to be there.  Everybody else
needs to follow this link and see if the band is playing anywhere near you so
you don't pull the bone-head stunt I just did.
 
David Booker
'71 Midget that may be taking a bit too much of my attention?
Long Island

http://elitecastingnetwork.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=260312

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Mon Jun  1 06:14:06 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 08:14:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10905312104g57eb6celba4a1c23a7ea3bf8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DD40B1DEC7FD4868B09B60D1EE2208D5@D9QDN571>
	<2ad6c6b10905312104g57eb6celba4a1c23a7ea3bf8@mail.gmail.com>
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Try http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=2567865

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 06:36:41 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:36:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906010536g7d225969jf60fcc900e51f528@mail.gmail.com>

> CRAP!  I JUST missed seeing Billy.  The link said New York City May 29-31.
> What is today?  June 1st.  Man - I guess I need to try to be more in touch
> with what's going on outside the garage.

I've got tickets for me and Trish to see him June 19. Anyone else
going to be there?
Besides Billy... I hope ;-)
David Lieb

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 06:44:32 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 05:44:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
Message-ID: <982424.89977.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Seems I remember reading about it a couple of years ago.  Don't remember much
other than it's not coming to the states.  Kind of like a modern Messerschmidt
KR200.
David Booker
Long Island

--- On Sun, 5/31/09, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
To: "Spridgeteers" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 11:04 PM


Know anything of these???
Herb


To:


*Subject:* NEW SINGLE SEAT VW

NEW SINGLE SEAT VW

   *You can go to Shanghai for a vacation, buy two or more of these cars,
one for your wife and one for yourself, and one for each of your kids, have
them shipped to Canada and still spend less money than if you bought a car
in Canada.**

This is not a toy, not a concept car.  It is a newly developed single seat
car in highly aerodynamic tear-shape road-proven real car.  It is ready to
be launched as a single-seater for sale in Shanghai in 2010 for a mere RMB
4,000 (US$600)!

Interested?  Wait till you learn that it will cruise at 100-120 Km/Hr with
an unbelievable 0.99litre/100Km (258 miles/gallon) !!

Impressed? Totally, after you have read all the details below about the
hi-tech and space-age material input into this care !!!*


*Truly the most Economical Car in the world and it will be on sale next year
... 2010*

*
[image: cid:1.4264824887 at web51510.mail.re2.yahoo.com]
Better than Electric Car - 258 miles/gallon: IPO 2010 in Shanghai
This is a single seated car.  From conception to production: 3 years and the
company is headquartered in Hamburg, Germany.  Will be selling for 4000
yuan, equivalent to US$600..
Gas tank capacity = 1.7 gallons
Speed = 62 - 74.6 Miles/hour
Fuel efficiency = 258 miles/gallon
Travel distance with a full tank = 404 miles

[image: cid:2.4264824888 at web51510.mail.re2.yahoo.com]


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*
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*[image: cid:5.4264824888 at web51510.mail.re2.yahoo.com]*

I'm thinkin' it might be a great deal.. but pretty scary amongst the
18-wheelers!  Bug squuuush for sure!
* *

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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 07:22:35 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 06:22:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange now..
Message-ID: <304920.77619.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Was turning in to my street yesterday afternoon and some woman in an SUV
decided she wanted to pull out before I was out of the way.  She T-boned the
Mazda in the rear driver side axle and spun me around in the middle of the
road.  Took out the wheel, rear door, rear qtr. panel, sheet metal surrounding
the door, and the rear bumper.  Wheel also has lots of extra camber dialed in
now.
 
On the bright side, nobody was hurt.  Just my 6 year old
meticulously-maintained, near perfect black Protege 5.  Unfortunately, it is
probably not bad enough to total it, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed
anyway.  Maybe day-glo orange will be my choice for all future cars...
 
No wonder insurance is so expensive in New York.
 
David Booker
glad I wasn't in my '71 Midget
Long Island
 
 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 08:02:05 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:02:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <402188520906010536g7d225969jf60fcc900e51f528@mail.gmail.com>
References: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188520906010536g7d225969jf60fcc900e51f528@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906010702j69f4d668h4edc717505fef149@mail.gmail.com>

David Booker,
Just buy a ticket for the June 19 concert in Chicago. Fly out Friday
afternoon, I will pick you up at O'Hare, loan you a car, set you up
with an air mattress, etc. Be a roadie!
David Lieb

From wmseverin at charter.net  Mon Jun  1 08:23:40 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 09:23:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SOS the shop move
Message-ID: <004501c9e2c4$8fd83b30$af88b190$@net>

Hey y'all,

 

Ron came out Sunday to help, and we got 2 trailer's full done. Peter, Gabe,
Larry and brother Don came out for a day last weekend. Thanks.

 

So, I'm about 90% out of the big/warm side of the shop, with the cold side
remaining (lots of work left there). I could definitely use more help next
weekend for any folks available, either Sat or Sun. If you can help, please
let me know ASAP so I can organize this to make best use of available
personnel. 

 

Thanks,

 

WST

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 08:38:24 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 07:38:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
Message-ID: <668632.56772.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Then continue on to Blackhawk Farms and crew for me!

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:02 AM
> David Booker,
> Just buy a ticket for the June 19 concert in Chicago. Fly
> out Friday
> afternoon, I will pick you up at O'Hare, loan you a car,
> set you up
> with an air mattress, etc. Be a roadie!
> David Lieb
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun  1 10:19:43 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:19:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
In-Reply-To: <83E1331EC2844D399CCE8717EDA07B87@Home>
Message-ID: <C6494DAF.17A9C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Damn!  If they could get it to do 80 or 90, it could be driven in
California. I'd settle for just 200mpg if it was freeway legal.

> Speed = 62 - 74.6 Miles/hour
> Fuel efficiency = 258 miles/gallon

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun  1 10:24:03 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:24:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> CRAP!  I JUST missed seeing Billy.
We're in Philly on Thurs.
That's only a couple hours.

From bkitterer at me.com  Mon Jun  1 10:26:15 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:26:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Crappy cheap Chinese cameras - you get what you pay
 for!
In-Reply-To: <9C9BF413DF21412FAC1158873D90DE46@dell330>
References: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJEEJADGAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<9C9BF413DF21412FAC1158873D90DE46@dell330>
Message-ID: <85C2F785-2C02-4F95-96CE-752B75950726@me.com>

The Olympus E-500 will accept the Olympus OM lenses.  They require an  
adapter and the camera is then manually operated, you have to set the  
aperture and shutter speed.

The competitive Nikon's I think are the same way.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

>
>> <<Do you know of any half decent Digital SLRs that will take an old  
>> lens?>>
>>
>> Guy, what BRAND of lenses???
>>
>> Doh !!!
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> Anon

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 10:32:16 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:32:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906010932u7adbe3aaoe8e64623798cf22c@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, but do you provide Spridget parking?
Every time I try to go in and vote for a song, it tries to sell me
tickets. I can understand restricting voting to people who have boght
tickets (I can just see some "people" on this List thinking it would
be funny to try to get -X- to play Alice's Restaurant), but I already
have my tickets. Fortunately, I have no idea what I would request
anyway...
David Lieb

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 11:00:51 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:00:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906011000x22a8e5a9y3d847b4cd6d33ace@mail.gmail.com>

>> CRAP!  I JUST missed seeing Billy.

> We're in Philly on Thurs.
> That's only a couple hours.

Yes, but what is the pizza like in Philly???

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 11:14:52 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 10:14:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
In-Reply-To: <C6494DAF.17A9C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <83E1331EC2844D399CCE8717EDA07B87@Home>
	<C6494DAF.17A9C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906011014p740416f4ubc64a1d508f988a6@mail.gmail.com>

BZ,

Add a guitar or two and an amp...mileage drops to 100mpg!

Herb



On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:

> Damn!  If they could get it to do 80 or 90, it could be driven in
> California. I'd settle for just 200mpg if it was freeway legal.
>
> > Speed = 62 - 74.6 Miles/hour
> > Fuel efficiency = 258 miles/gallon
> _______________________________________________

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 11:25:28 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:25:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10906011014p740416f4ubc64a1d508f988a6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <83E1331EC2844D399CCE8717EDA07B87@Home>
	<C6494DAF.17A9C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<2ad6c6b10906011014p740416f4ubc64a1d508f988a6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906011025g2cf3f115j167ac4814c1e95d3@mail.gmail.com>

> Add a guitar or two and an amp...mileage drops to 100mpg!

Ahh, but if you aim the speakers to the rear and play loud enough, you
can get the mileage back up to 150.

From grday at btinternet.com  Mon Jun  1 11:44:10 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:44:10 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
References: <83E1331EC2844D399CCE8717EDA07B87@Home><C6494DAF.17A9C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com><2ad6c6b10906011014p740416f4ubc64a1d508f988a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520906011025g2cf3f115j167ac4814c1e95d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8D4430AA4444FEE9FF855FFC0DBA00F@dell330>

And overshoot freeway speeds ....

GRD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW


>> Add a guitar or two and an amp...mileage drops to 100mpg!
> 
> Ahh, but if you aim the speakers to the rear and play loud enough, you
> can get the mileage back up to 150.
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 11:46:45 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 12:46:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
In-Reply-To: <C8D4430AA4444FEE9FF855FFC0DBA00F@dell330>
References: <83E1331EC2844D399CCE8717EDA07B87@Home>
	<C6494DAF.17A9C%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<2ad6c6b10906011014p740416f4ubc64a1d508f988a6@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520906011025g2cf3f115j167ac4814c1e95d3@mail.gmail.com>
	<C8D4430AA4444FEE9FF855FFC0DBA00F@dell330>
Message-ID: <402188520906011046t32a19d7dq85956100697013d0@mail.gmail.com>

> And overshoot freeway speeds ....

Freebird!

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 12:04:03 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:04:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange  now..
In-Reply-To: <304920.77619.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <304920.77619.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906011104y62ed6828kbafb1855057e0a6f@mail.gmail.com>

As someone who also rides motorcycles a lot I can tell you that the bright
colors may not make any difference. People see what they are looking for no
matter what color it is. Two weeks ago I was in Wichita, KS and saw a car
drive straight into a school bus parked at an intersection. The problem is
with brain dead drivers, not vehicle visibility.

Glad you didn't get hurt. Tough luck on the Mazda

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:22 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Was turning in to my street yesterday afternoon and some woman in an SUV
> decided she wanted to pull out before I was out of the way.  She T-boned
> the
> Mazda in the rear driver side axle and spun me around in the middle of the
> road.  Took out the wheel, rear door, rear qtr. panel, sheet metal
> surrounding
> the door, and the rear bumper.  Wheel also has lots of extra camber dialed
> in
> now.
>
> On the bright side, nobody was hurt.  Just my 6 year old
> meticulously-maintained, near perfect black Protege 5.  Unfortunately, it
> is
> probably not bad enough to total it, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed
> anyway.  Maybe day-glo orange will be my choice for all future cars...
>
> No wonder insurance is so expensive in New York.
>
> David Booker
> glad I wasn't in my '71 Midget
> Long Island
>
>
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Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 12:18:46 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:18:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <668632.56772.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <668632.56772.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906011118l46390f6fy4bc3ae1c8475ebdf@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Then continue on to Blackhawk Farms and crew for me!

You have to promise to win first...   ;-)

Maybe Billy could convince the band to play at the Midget 50th...
--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jun  1 13:24:29 2009
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:24:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
References: <982424.89977.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <007301c9e2ee$95cf3b90$6401a8c0@refisk>

David said "....it's not coming to the states".

That's because the Naderites and all of the other safety nazi's would have a 
cow if you tried to import it to the USA - no battering ram bumpers, 
headlights too low, etc., etc.  Remember, they feel it's their duty to 
protect us from ourselves.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW


> Seems I remember reading about it a couple of years ago.  Don't remember 
> much
> other than it's not coming to the states. 

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun  1 14:15:30 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:15:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
Message-ID: <200906011315878.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>

Michigan-ders, my wife and I are going to take a gander at your fair state.

We'll be at University Motors (Ada) Saturday morning, then we'll head 
North to Mackinaw and back around the lake through Green Bay, and 
back home near Madison WI. We'll be towing a trailer full of shock 
cores from John's.

So, thinkin about some place like a B&B or a Bates Motel. Just want 
to relax for an evening over too many cocktails. A view would be 
nice, but the bottom of a glass will do.

Any recommendations for accommodations in the UP?


Thanks

	Peter C.

From davegran at tds.net  Mon Jun  1 15:44:58 2009
From: davegran at tds.net (Dave Grandeffo)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:44:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] NEW SINGLE SEAT VW
Message-ID: <4A244BDA.8040007@tds.net>

Herb wrote:

> Know anything of these???
> Herb

The picture is of a 1 liter VW "Engineering Exercise" from a few years ago. Lots of exotic, lightweight materials to achieve their mileage goals. You probably couldn't even buy a rear view mirror for $600.... That's because the rear view mirror is a television system.

--
Dave Grandeffo

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Jun  1 15:59:21 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:59:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
In-Reply-To: <200906011315878.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
References: <200906011315878.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <7ll0se$6fn3tf@email.mtu.edu>

Peter,
Accommodations - at the Bridge - The Mighty Mac! Nice motels, nice 
views, & eateries. If you look at the map, areas to the West of the 
Bridge are marked "Dragons be here."
Detour - You will encounter a detour on US 2 West of Brevort for the 
Cut River Bridge rebuild. To bad you miss this. Nice view from the bridge.
Ga$ - Plan NOT to buy ga$ anywhere We$t of the Bridge along U$ 2 - 
e$pecially in Naubinway.
Food - Nice family restaurant in Gould City on US2. (The Poor Boy, If 
it is still open)
Deer - Deer in the UP have 4 legs. I know you are accustomed to the 4 
wheel deer. Hitting either does great damage.
Land Speed Route - I normally drove M28 - the Northern route. Between 
Seney and Singleton you have 25 miles of flat straight road through a 
swamp. Hit 133 mph there once.
Don't know much about US2 after the M77 "exit" to Blaney Park other 
than the dragons are REALLY big West of there.

>Any recommendations for accommodations in the UP?

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  1 16:26:09 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:26:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange now..
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906011104y62ed6828kbafb1855057e0a6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <304920.77619.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0906011104y62ed6828kbafb1855057e0a6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W25E1637066C20ABE24BABCA4C0@phx.gbl>

Well this is a horrible coincidence- I was at the NOSHIT  in Washington on
Saturday and a young lady in an SUV ran the stop sign and took out my
(Sprite's) right rear quarter panel, spun me around too (not fun). Neither of
us were hurt but we needed some quality time with a scissors jack to make it
drivable.
Hope that these don't come in 3's!!
BillM

> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:04:03 -0500
> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
> To: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange  now..
>
> As someone who also rides motorcycles a lot I can tell you that the bright
> colors may not make any difference. People see what they are looking for no
> matter what color it is. Two weeks ago I was in Wichita, KS and saw a car
> drive straight into a school bus parked at an intersection. The problem is
> with brain dead drivers, not vehicle visibility.
>
> Glad you didn't get hurt. Tough luck on the Mazda
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:22 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Was turning in to my street yesterday afternoon and some woman in an SUV
> > decided she wanted to pull out before I was out of the way.  She T-boned
> > the
> > Mazda in the rear driver side axle and spun me around in the middle of
the
> > road.  Took out the wheel, rear door, rear qtr. panel, sheet metal
> > surrounding
> > the door, and the rear bumper.  Wheel also has lots of extra camber
dialed
> > in
> > now.
> >
> > On the bright side, nobody was hurt.  Just my 6 year old
> > meticulously-maintained, near perfect black Protege 5.  Unfortunately, it
> > is
> > probably not bad enough to total it, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed
> > anyway.  Maybe day-glo orange will be my choice for all future cars...
> >
> > No wonder insurance is so expensive in New York.
> >
> > David Booker
> > glad I wasn't in my '71 Midget
> > Long Island
> >
> >
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 16:51:49 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:51:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
Message-ID: <237259.12873.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Timothy H. Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:
> Deer - Deer in the UP have 4 legs. I know you are
> accustomed to the 4 wheel deer. Hitting either does great
> damage.

MORE than our share down here. IT gets real exciting when they show up at Road America and Blackhawk Farms. I drove to/fro Peter's last week. Between here and there (~48 miles), I lost count of dead deer on the highway. So yesterday I counted on the way home from Flounder's. 14 on the highway between Madison and Rockford. I hit my first one last week in Roscoe with my truck. The Ford took it better than the deer, cracked plastic grill and surround. At its age, I'm thinking an insurance check and Krazy Glue will solve it. 

We have wild turkeys, too. 3 weeks ago at Blackhawk Farms a Formula Ford driver took one in the helmet on the front straight. He's still in a coma.

Ron

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun  1 17:03:31 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 16:03:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange  now..
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W25E1637066C20ABE24BABCA4C0@phx.gbl>
References: <304920.77619.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0906011104y62ed6828kbafb1855057e0a6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<BLU107-W25E1637066C20ABE24BABCA4C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CD29ED7DAFBA45A59DD0CFA694671CD0@spider>

NOBODY drive their car for the rest of the week. (3's happen)
...bill in Oregon

================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Masquelier
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 3:26 PM
To: bmwwxman at gmail.com; tncarnut1 at yahoo.com
Cc: spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange now..

Well this is a horrible coincidence- I was at the NOSHIT  in Washington on
Saturday and a young lady in an SUV ran the stop sign and took out my
(Sprite's) right rear quarter panel, spun me around too (not fun). Neither
of
us were hurt but we needed some quality time with a scissors jack to make it
drivable.
Hope that these don't come in 3's!!
BillM

> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:04:03 -0500
> From: bmwwxman at gmail.com
> To: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange
now..
>
> As someone who also rides motorcycles a lot I can tell you that the bright
> colors may not make any difference. People see what they are looking for
no
> matter what color it is. Two weeks ago I was in Wichita, KS and saw a car
> drive straight into a school bus parked at an intersection. The problem is
> with brain dead drivers, not vehicle visibility.
>
> Glad you didn't get hurt. Tough luck on the Mazda
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:22 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Was turning in to my street yesterday afternoon and some woman in an SUV
> > decided she wanted to pull out before I was out of the way.  She T-boned
> > the
> > Mazda in the rear driver side axle and spun me around in the middle of
the
> > road.  Took out the wheel, rear door, rear qtr. panel, sheet metal
> > surrounding
> > the door, and the rear bumper.  Wheel also has lots of extra camber
dialed
> > in
> > now.
> >
> > On the bright side, nobody was hurt.  Just my 6 year old
> > meticulously-maintained, near perfect black Protege 5.  Unfortunately,
it
> > is
> > probably not bad enough to total it, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed
> > anyway.  Maybe day-glo orange will be my choice for all future cars...
> >
> > No wonder insurance is so expensive in New York.
> >
> > David Booker
> > glad I wasn't in my '71 Midget
> > Long Island
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Jun  1 17:26:43 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:26:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange now..
In-Reply-To: <CD29ED7DAFBA45A59DD0CFA694671CD0@spider>
References: <304920.77619.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>,
	<BLU107-W25E1637066C20ABE24BABCA4C0@phx.gbl>,
	<CD29ED7DAFBA45A59DD0CFA694671CD0@spider>
Message-ID: <4A240143.28553.1D6289@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Old French saying..
"Jamais deux sans Trois"
translation....
'Never two without three'

Car stays in garage... like always  ;-))

On 1 Jun 2009 at 16:03, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
>> NOBODY drive their car for the rest of the week. (3's happen)


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From nases at verizon.net  Mon Jun  1 17:46:52 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:46:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
In-Reply-To: <7ll0se$6fn3tf@email.mtu.edu>
References: <200906011315878.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
	<7ll0se$6fn3tf@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <C6B25CEE-A006-4173-8EA3-280BCEDBD525@verizon.net>

I gotta ask, what are dragons?

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/



On Jun 1, 2009, at 5:59 PM, Timothy H. Collins wrote:

> Peter,
> Accommodations - at the Bridge - The Mighty Mac! Nice motels, nice  
> views, & eateries. If you look at the map, areas to the West of the  
> Bridge are marked "Dragons be here."
> Detour - You will encounter a detour on US 2 West of Brevort for the  
> Cut River Bridge rebuild. To bad you miss this. Nice view from the  
> bridge.
> Ga$ - Plan NOT to buy ga$ anywhere We$t of the Bridge along U$ 2 - e 
> $pecially in Naubinway.
> Food - Nice family restaurant in Gould City on US2. (The Poor Boy,  
> If it is still open)
> Deer - Deer in the UP have 4 legs. I know you are accustomed to the  
> 4 wheel deer. Hitting either does great damage.
> Land Speed Route - I normally drove M28 - the Northern route.  
> Between Seney and Singleton you have 25 miles of flat straight road  
> through a swamp. Hit 133 mph there once.
> Don't know much about US2 after the M77 "exit" to Blaney Park other  
> than the dragons are REALLY big West of there.
>
>> Any recommendations for accommodations in the UP?
>
> Tim Collins
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/  
> _______________________________________________

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 17:51:07 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:51:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
In-Reply-To: <C6B25CEE-A006-4173-8EA3-280BCEDBD525@verizon.net>
References: <200906011315878.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
	<7ll0se$6fn3tf@email.mtu.edu>
	<C6B25CEE-A006-4173-8EA3-280BCEDBD525@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906011651w1153891pd4d5087b650e278a@mail.gmail.com>

> I gotta ask, what are dragons?

Never saw one, but their tails are 11 miles long and extremely flexible...

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  1 17:53:06 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:53:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <402188520906011000x22a8e5a9y3d847b4cd6d33ace@mail.gmail.com>
References: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<402188520906011000x22a8e5a9y3d847b4cd6d33ace@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A2469E2.9040502@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
>
>> We're in Philly on Thurs.
>> That's only a couple hours.
>>     
>
> Yes, but what is the pizza like in Philly???
>   
You get CHEESE STEAKS in Philly.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 17:52:49 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:52:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <4A2469E2.9040502@comcast.net>
References: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<402188520906011000x22a8e5a9y3d847b4cd6d33ace@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A2469E2.9040502@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906011652x2d21f807rbdbbebacaae1e155@mail.gmail.com>

> You get CHEESE STEAKS in Philly.

No, I get the heck OUT of Philly ;-)

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 17:53:03 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:53:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <4A2469E2.9040502@comcast.net>
References: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<402188520906011000x22a8e5a9y3d847b4cd6d33ace@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A2469E2.9040502@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906011653g1ea46454i3a730e1a0be2c481@mail.gmail.com>

> You get CHEESE STEAKS in Philly.

No, I get the heck OUT of Philly ;-)

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Jun  1 18:05:06 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:05:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
In-Reply-To: <C6B25CEE-A006-4173-8EA3-280BCEDBD525@verizon.net>
References: <200906011315878.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
	<7ll0se$6fn3tf@email.mtu.edu>
	<C6B25CEE-A006-4173-8EA3-280BCEDBD525@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <7ll0se$6fnhhs@email.mtu.edu>

At 07:46 PM 6/1/2009, Phil Nase wrote:
>I gotta ask, what are dragons?

>Try this. . . .
>http://www.maphist.nl/extra/herebedragons.html

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 19:13:31 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:13:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Another California special...
Message-ID: <457966.17303.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I should have stayed in Cali...... I've never seen so many deals on Spridgets!  Here's another.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/1198884251.html

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  1 19:33:10 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:33:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <402188520906011652x2d21f807rbdbbebacaae1e155@mail.gmail.com>
References: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<402188520906011000x22a8e5a9y3d847b4cd6d33ace@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A2469E2.9040502@comcast.net>
	<402188520906011652x2d21f807rbdbbebacaae1e155@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A248156.9050109@comcast.net>

David Lieb wrote:
>> You get CHEESE STEAKS in Philly.
>>     
>
> No, I get the heck OUT of Philly ;-)
>   
And go where?  Chicago?

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 19:36:24 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:36:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <4A248156.9050109@comcast.net>
References: <212557.64002.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<C6494EB3.17A9F%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<402188520906011000x22a8e5a9y3d847b4cd6d33ace@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A2469E2.9040502@comcast.net>
	<402188520906011652x2d21f807rbdbbebacaae1e155@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A248156.9050109@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906011836h120cb9b5r38ca43928a7d3b6@mail.gmail.com>

>>> You get CHEESE STEAKS in Philly.

>> No, I get the heck OUT of Philly ;-)

> And go where?  Chicago?

Preferably not. I must confess that I avoid Chicago, although not so
avidly as I avoid NYC or Philly. I would prefer southeatern Tennessee,
but gainful employment is a bit thin on the ground there due to people
willing to work for nothing just to live there.
David Lieb

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Mon Jun  1 20:18:34 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 22:18:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange now..
References: <304920.77619.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<43840a7e0906011104y62ed6828kbafb1855057e0a6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25BF52F610CB412E8C1ED26D79A35000@blackbox2>

Rustoleum calls it "Safety Orange"

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jun  1 20:21:16 2009
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:21:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
Message-ID: <2b6a401c9e328$cf1c5fb0$116a010a@mail2world.com>

Preferably at Pat's. (9th & Passyunk) :)

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Frank [spritenut at comcast.net]
>Sent: 6/1/2009 7:54:06 PM
>To: 72spridget at gmail.com
>Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BZ on FN
>
>David Lieb wrote:
>>
>>> We're in Philly on Thurs.
>>> That's only a couple hours.
>>> 
>>
>> Yes, but what is the pizza like in Philly???
>> 
>You get CHEESE STEAKS in Philly.
>
>-- 
>Frank Clarici
>Toms River, NJ
>My own Fleet of Sprites
>_______________________________________________

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun  1 20:56:03 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:56:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <2b6a401c9e328$cf1c5fb0$116a010a@mail2world.com>
Message-ID: <C649E2D3.17B07%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

OK, Philly is Cheese Steak, Chicago is Pan Pizza, D.C. MUST be pork...what's
to eat in Baltimore?

> June 4, 2009
> World Cafe Live
> Philadelphia PA
> 
> June 5, 2009
> 9:30 Club
> Washington D.C.
> 
> June 6, 2009
> Rams Head Live!
> Baltimore MD
> 
> June 9, 2009
> Cat's Cradle
> Carrboro NC
> 
> June 10, 2009
> Bijou Theatre
> Knoxville TN

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  1 21:02:59 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 23:02:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <C649E2D3.17B07%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C649E2D3.17B07%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4A249663.9050406@comcast.net>

Billy Zoom wrote:
> OK, Philly is Cheese Steak, Chicago is Pan Pizza, D.C. MUST be pork...what's
> to eat in Baltimore?
>
>   
Crabs

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun  1 21:06:46 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
Message-ID: <299975.92123.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Billy Zoom <billyzoom at billyzoom.com> wrote:
> is Pan Pizza, D.C. MUST be pork...what's
> to eat in Baltimore?

Crabs with Old Bay.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 21:21:00 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 20:21:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <4A249663.9050406@comcast.net>
References: <C649E2D3.17B07%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<4A249663.9050406@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906012021v7a6c73a5re2d551726da479b3@mail.gmail.com>

...and not 'King Crab' either!



On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Billy Zoom wrote:
>
>> OK, Philly is Cheese Steak, Chicago is Pan Pizza, D.C. MUST be
>> pork...what's
>> to eat in Baltimore?
>>
>>
>>
> Crabs
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Mon Jun  1 21:23:05 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:23:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <C649E2D3.17B07%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C649E2D3.17B07%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <4A249B19.6090003@frontiernet.net>

I think Baltimore has some sort of crustacean that the locals, who have 
never tasted Dungenous crab, think are crab.

Kate

Billy Zoom wrote:
> OK, Philly is Cheese Steak, Chicago is Pan Pizza, D.C. MUST be pork...what's
> to eat in Baltimore?
>
>   
>> June 4, 2009
>> World Cafe Live
>> Philadelphia PA
>>
>> June 5, 2009
>> 9:30 Club
>> Washington D.C.
>>
>> June 6, 2009
>> Rams Head Live!
>> Baltimore MD
>>
>> June 9, 2009
>> Cat's Cradle
>> Carrboro NC
>>
>> June 10, 2009
>> Bijou Theatre
>> Knoxville TN
>>     
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From tr3.4.me at gmail.com  Mon Jun  1 22:25:12 2009
From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 23:25:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
In-Reply-To: <402188520906011651w1153891pd4d5087b650e278a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200906011315878.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
	<7ll0se$6fn3tf@email.mtu.edu>
	<C6B25CEE-A006-4173-8EA3-280BCEDBD525@verizon.net>
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On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I gotta ask, what are dragons?
>
> Never saw one, but their tails are 11 miles long and extremely flexible...
>
>

I've only seen one vicariously
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR8XTFqELgM>... I sure hope to remedy
that some day

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Jun  1 23:58:24 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 22:58:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <4A249B19.6090003@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <20090602055832.205B91884F0@autox.team.net>

Yea it is called soft shell.
		Crash


I think Baltimore has some sort of crustacean that the locals, who have 
never tasted Dungenous crab, think are crab.

Kate

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 02:31:51 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 03:31:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <20090602055832.205B91884F0@autox.team.net>
References: <4A249B19.6090003@frontiernet.net>
	<20090602055832.205B91884F0@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906020131g6df734ebq9d83fc9d89205b9d@mail.gmail.com>

Negatory!!! It is Blue Crab!!  There is some soft shell but Maryland is the
land of Blue Crab!

Meanwhile, the western high plains where I live are known for another type
of shell fish....  Rocky Mountains Oysters!  Yummm!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:58 AM, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> Yea it is called soft shell.
>                Crash
>
>
> I think Baltimore has some sort of crustacean that the locals, who have
> never tasted Dungenous crab, think are crab.
>
> Kate

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  2 04:06:47 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 03:06:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange  now..
Message-ID: <111024.32301.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Wasn't that what Malcolm B. (as opposed to X) called one of the original
Bricklin colors?  ..."Safety Orange"
 
 - David Booker
'71 Midget Safety OEW
Long Island

--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange now..
To: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:18 PM


Rustoleum calls it "Safety Orange"
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From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Tue Jun  2 05:53:51 2009
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 04:53:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
Message-ID: <138f901c9e378$cbcd9b80$0168010a@mail2world.com>

Well, the soft shell IS a blue crab, just after molting (hence why the
shell is soft).
 
I'll take mine fried, on a bun, with the legs sticking out the sides.
Yum!


Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Jim Johnson [bmwwxman at gmail.com]
Sent: 6/2/2009 4:32:51 AM
To: 
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN 

Negatory!!! It is Blue Crab!! There is some soft shell but Maryland is
the 
land of Blue Crab! 

Meanwhile, the western high plains where I live are known for another
type 
of shell fish.... Rocky Mountains Oysters! Yummm! 

Cheers!! 
Jim 

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:58 AM, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote: 

> Yea it is called soft shell. 
> Crash 
> 
> 
> I think Baltimore has some sort of crustacean that the locals, who
have 
> never tasted Dungenous crab, think are crab. 
> 
> Kate 

. 

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  2 06:30:09 2009
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 05:30:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fw:  Michigan help, please
Message-ID: <561722.66490.qm@web63506.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hi Doug
   Two best bets on that route include Manistique, right on the top
of Lake Michigan.  If he wants to gamble there is a big casino just East of
Town.
Nice wine tasting place at the Marina in Manistique.  Many reasonably
motels right on the lake.
 
OR
 
    Make it to Escanaba and stay near the
lake at the House of Ludington, far East end of main st. (Ludington St.) which
runs from U.S. 2 & 41 East to the Lake.  Famous as a one time hang out of Al
Capone, the hotel also includes a "haunted" room.  Rather elegant dining
altho' there are better restaurants for the money in Escanaba.  Personal
Fav....The StoneHouse at the corner of Ludington and U.S. 2 & 41 as one passes
through the middle of Escanaba. Can't miss it.
    If your friend is staying
in the U.P. for a week or more, I could load him up with even more
suggestions....Soo Locks,  Taquamenon Falls north of Newberry, Houghton,
Brockway Mtn. Drive, the Haunted B & B in a lighthouse in Big Bay and on & on.
    Al
 
________________________________


Al - I have an acquaintance who
sent the note below.  He is traveling through the UP this coming weekend and
is asking about bed & breakfasts or other scenic hotels on their route.  They
are crossing the Mackinac bridge and going West and South around Lake Michigan
to Madison, Wisconsin.  Any suggestions?  Thanks.   Doug    ....o~'o


-----
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From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
To:
spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2009 4:15:30 PM
Subject:
[Spridgets] Michigan help, please

Michigan-ders, my wife and I are going to
take a gander at your fair state.

We'll be at University Motors (Ada)
Saturday morning, then we'll head North to Mackinaw and back around the lake
through Green Bay, and back home near Madison WI. We'll be towing a trailer
full of shock cores from John's.

So, thinkin about some place like a B&B or a
Bates Motel. Just want to relax for an evening over too many cocktails. A view
would be nice, but the bottom of a glass will do.

Any recommendations for
accommodations in the UP?


Thanks

    Peter C.

From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Jun  2 07:01:25 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:01:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0906012125q4d2835f5va4be27a85afbe40c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200906011315878.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com><7ll0se$6fn3tf@email.mtu.edu><C6B25CEE-A006-4173-8EA3-280BCEDBD525@verizon.net><402188520906011651w1153891pd4d5087b650e278a@mail.gmail.com>
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I was just there this past weekend.  318 curves, 11 miles.  What a blast.

Heard

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Foster
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:25 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I gotta ask, what are dragons?
>
> Never saw one, but their tails are 11 miles long and extremely flexible...
>
>

I've only seen one vicariously
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR8XTFqELgM>... I sure hope to remedy that
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From bighealey at charter.net  Tue Jun  2 07:08:57 2009
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 06:08:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Another California special...
In-Reply-To: <457966.17303.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <80B1048E488C4654A338EA4B0040F701@TRACY>

I have one for sale as well.  Problem in CA is the smog requirement.
Anything after 75 is dirt cheap.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

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Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 6:14 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Another California special...

I should have stayed in Cali...... I've never seen so many deals on
Spridgets!  Here's another.

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/1198884251.html
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jun  2 07:09:56 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:09:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
In-Reply-To: <4A249B19.6090003@frontiernet.net>
References: <C649E2D3.17B07%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<4A249B19.6090003@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <5AF254383DA24C81946CFB9F482A130D@Home>

>I think Baltimore has some sort of crustacean that the locals, who have 
>never tasted Dungenous crab, think are crab.

They are tiny little things, so hard to eat that it is like dieting.  It 
takes more calories to clean them than you gain in eating them.

Michael Rowe
Friday Harbor, WA 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun  2 07:28:11 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 13:28:11 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
In-Reply-To: <237259.12873.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <237259.12873.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W19DA76C1066566BE4225C8B84D0@phx.gbl>

Geez!  Just how wild are those turkeys??  :)

Robert D.

> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 15:51:49 -0700
> From: soavero at yahoo.com
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Timothy H. Collins  wrote:
>> Deer - Deer in the UP have 4 legs. I know you are
>> accustomed to the 4 wheel deer. Hitting either does great
>> damage.
>
> MORE than our share down here. IT gets real exciting when they show up at
Road America and Blackhawk Farms. I drove to/fro Peter's last week. Between
here and there (~48 miles), I lost count of dead deer on the highway. So
yesterday I counted on the way home from Flounder's. 14 on the highway between
Madison and Rockford. I hit my first one last week in Roscoe with my truck.
The Ford took it better than the deer, cracked plastic grill and surround. At
its age, I'm thinking an insurance check and Krazy Glue will solve it.
>
> We have wild turkeys, too. 3 weeks ago at Blackhawk Farms a Formula Ford
driver took one in the helmet on the front straight. He's still in a coma.
>
> Ron

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun  2 07:44:40 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 13:44:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Engineers - Humour - No direct LBC content - No guns,
 cats, Zappa ...
Message-ID: <BAY112-W199DA5AC36FA8B71618A6CB84D0@phx.gbl>

Most people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 08:25:03 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:25:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Engineers - Humour - No direct LBC content - No
 guns, cats, Zappa ...
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W199DA5AC36FA8B71618A6CB84D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W199DA5AC36FA8B71618A6CB84D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520906020725l20d20a6aj99d7cb0f1e09bdf7@mail.gmail.com>

> Most people believe that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Others subscribe to the philosophy of "If it ain't broke, fix it til it is."

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun  2 08:55:40 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:55:40 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] unique non spridget Healey
Message-ID: <BAY112-W286F5EA73D1D5AC21C4E1B84D0@phx.gbl>

1949 Austin Atlantic HEALEY
http://www.timmismotor.com/collector-cars.php?viewcar=436

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 09:16:46 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 08:16:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] mmm... crab...
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906020816w485023ban1eae25dfddcbf14f@mail.gmail.com>

What? Those guys don't have King or Dungeness crab?
It's all over in the grocery stores here.
That reminds me, I'll be in Alaska for a week next month.
Where I'm going (Whale Pass, Prince of Wales Island) you can just go grab
the Dungeness right out of the water at low tide - no crab pots needed (but
they help if you want more).
Salmon and Halibut and Crab... mm-mmm good!

Rick (got fishin' on the brain) Bastedo


**********************************************************
From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN

I think Baltimore has some sort of crustacean that the locals, who have
never tasted Dungenous crab, think are crab.

Kate
**********************************************************

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  2 09:16:48 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:16:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] unique non spridget Healey
References: <BAY112-W286F5EA73D1D5AC21C4E1B84D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <62088C3D83B04F889F90E34561309CE4@Larry>

Not a Healey.  It's an Austin A90 Atlantic.  It has the same motor as the 
Healey 100-4.  A guy in our local Brit Car Club has the convertible model. 
Nice car.

LAD


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Subject: [Spridgets] unique non spridget Healey


1949 Austin Atlantic HEALEY
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 09:24:42 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:24:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] unique non spridget Healey
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W286F5EA73D1D5AC21C4E1B84D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W286F5EA73D1D5AC21C4E1B84D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520906020824xf134b15xe73403d1ce7676f3@mail.gmail.com>

I prefer the Healey Fiesta

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun  2 10:19:28 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:19:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] mmm... crab...
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0906020816w485023ban1eae25dfddcbf14f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906020816w485023ban1eae25dfddcbf14f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A255110.9060300@frontiernet.net>

I would cheerfully kill for a pound or two of razor clams.  Talk about 
manna from Heaven!

Kate


Rick Bastedo wrote:
> What? Those guys don't have King or Dungeness crab?
> It's all over in the grocery stores here.

From snhochberg at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 11:37:56 2009
From: snhochberg at gmail.com (Sam H)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:37:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please (Peter Caldwell)
Message-ID: <9d4f61f00906021037p42c07848va63006edf92adaef@mail.gmail.com>

Better call first, Peter...
http://www.universitymotorsltd.com/

 ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:15:30 -0500
> Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
> Michigan-ders, my wife and I are going to take a gander at your fair state.
>
> We'll be at University Motors (Ada) Saturday morning...

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 12:26:42 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:26:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wide Tyres
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906021126o496ea88bw47885fa3ff0cb786@mail.gmail.com>

List,

What is involved with getting wide tyres on my Bugeye as in the pic?

Or, at least wider than the stock skinnys that I currently have?

Thanks!

Kirk


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT-BUMPER-FOR-AUSTIN-HEALEY-BUGEYE-FROGEYE-
SPRITE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a3Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c30
1Q3a1Q7c293Q3a2Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4ce980f2caQQit
emZ330335056586QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQQsalenotsuppor
ted

From bighealey at charter.net  Tue Jun  2 12:35:28 2009
From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:35:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wide Tyres
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906021126o496ea88bw47885fa3ff0cb786@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090602143528.UXWUD.3710193.root@mp11>

careful.  Going big destroys handling,

---- Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote: 
> List,
> 
> What is involved with getting wide tyres on my Bugeye as in the pic?
> 
> Or, at least wider than the stock skinnys that I currently have?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Kirk
> 
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT-BUMPER-FOR-AUSTIN-HEALEY-BUGEYE-FROGEYE-
> SPRITE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a3Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c30
> 1Q3a1Q7c293Q3a2Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4ce980f2caQQit
> emZ330335056586QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQQsalenotsuppor
> ted
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From jmj3351 at comcast.net  Tue Jun  2 12:51:55 2009
From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 18:51:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
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Message-ID: <1023442057.15767841243968715263.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

11 mile long dragon tails are more fun than you should have. My daughter and I
did the DragonB on Fri. 5/22 and we enjoyed it once again. You get your
picture taken a lot now. Photographers are in many of the curves.B I encourage
everyone to do the dragon as often as possible and look out for the knee
draggers.



Green 1500B 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Heard" <heard at datatrontech.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:01:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please

I was just there this past weekend. B 318 curves, 11 miles. B What a blast.

Heard

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Foster
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:25 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I gotta ask, what are dragons?
>
> Never saw one, but their tails are 11 miles long and extremely flexible...
>
>

I've only seen one vicariously
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR8XTFqELgM>... I sure hope to remedy that
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Jun  2 13:45:50 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:45:50 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please
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References: <059e01c9e382$3cad1700$1801010a@xp>
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Yeah, I took some pics of them taking pics.  We went through it twice this
past weekend in my wife's Z4.  We're getting ready to sell it so I thought
we should at least get up there and have some fun first.
 
If anyone is interested in an '03 Z4, let me know.
 
Heard

  _____  

From: jmj3351 at comcast.net [mailto:jmj3351 at comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Heard
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please



11 mile long dragon tails are more fun than you should have. My daughter and
I did the Dragon on Fri. 5/22 and we enjoyed it once again. You get your
picture taken a lot now. Photographers are in many of the curves. I
encourage everyone to do the dragon as often as possible and look out for
the knee draggers.

 

Green 1500 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Heard" <heard at datatrontech.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 9:01:25 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please

I was just there this past weekend.  318 curves, 11 miles.  What a blast.

Heard

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Foster
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:25 AM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michigan help, please

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 6:51 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I gotta ask, what are dragons?
>
> Never saw one, but their tails are 11 miles long and extremely flexible...
>
>

I've only seen one vicariously
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR8XTFqELgM>... I sure hope to remedy that
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jun  2 15:10:58 2009
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:10:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EZcarlift
Message-ID: <4A259562.1050405@wi.net>

Anyone know anything about or have any experience with this lift?  
http://ezcarlift.com/
I know Moss sells it.  Kelvin??
 From what materials is the lift mechanism made?  I'd like to compare 
this with the MaxJax which can be ordered from Northern.

TIA,

Dave
59 MGA 1500
59 :{)
Burlington WI

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 15:21:56 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:21:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EZcarlift
In-Reply-To: <4A259562.1050405@wi.net>
References: <4A259562.1050405@wi.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906021421y2a47780fo6b713e01eff34c6e@mail.gmail.com>

> Anyone know anything about or have any experience with this lift?
>  http://ezcarlift.com/

No, but I know where you can see a MaxJax in operation...

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 15:26:00 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:26:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Free Root Beer Float this Wednesday, June 3rd, at Sonic
In-Reply-To: <MAILSERVERfngVdwnPU00000ba6@cntlwire.com>
References: <MAILSERVERfngVdwnPU00000ba6@cntlwire.com>
Message-ID: <e98d88090906021426p1c34543ftfe8f36fbc0f5ac6b@mail.gmail.com>

For any Sonic fans out there....
I'll drive the Sprite, just for the fun of it.
LOL





Free Root Beer Floats at Sonic

[2009-06-01]   The pools are open, the kids are wrapping up the school year
and summer temperatures are heating up. SONIC Drive-InB. has the perfect way
to help kick off summer with a sweet treat that won't impact your wallet.

On Wednesday, June 3, SONIC will thank its customers with Free Float Night,
giving away free 10 ounce Root Beer Floats from 8 p.m. until midnight at
participating Sonic Drive-Ins. SONIC plans to give away more than 3.5
million Root Beer Floats to customers coast to coast during this special
event.

And starting Thursday, June 4, customers will receive a free Route 44B. drink
upgrade with the purchase of any combo meal.





________________________________________
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A better way to Internethttp://www.peoplepc.com




--
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jun  2 15:31:36 2009
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:31:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Mgs] EZcarlift
In-Reply-To: <2054874421.14307071243978094781.JavaMail.root@sz0094a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <2054874421.14307071243978094781.JavaMail.root@sz0094a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4A259A38.2000807@wi.net>

Except I'm looking to get the wheels off the ground without the annoying 
jack tray.
Thanks for the reply!
Dave W.

macgroup at comcast.net wrote:
>
> With a true four-post lift starting at $1795 or even less, I don't see 
> that this is worth $2000, unless it's all you have room for.  I guess 
> it's safer than jack stands!  
>  http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Vehicle_4_Post_Lift_s/36.htm
>
>  
>
> Stuart (been lusting for a lift for years)
>
> '65 B, 71 GT, 74 GT project car for sale
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Woerpel" <dwoerpel at wi.net>
> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net, "MGs" <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 2:10:58 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [Mgs] EZcarlift
>
> Anyone know anything about or have any experience with this lift?  
> http://ezcarlift.com/
> I know Moss sells it.  Kelvin??
>  From what materials is the lift mechanism made?  I'd like to compare
> this with the MaxJax which can be ordered from Northern.
>
> TIA,
>
> Dave
> 59 MGA 1500
> 59 :{)
> Burlington WI

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Tue Jun  2 15:42:50 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:42:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EZcarlift
In-Reply-To: <4A259562.1050405@wi.net>
References: <4A259562.1050405@wi.net>
Message-ID: <CCFE4F656B394355B5F27C4618E447AC@BASEMENTDELL>

Now that looks cool!

Funny that almost all the photos show Corvairs except the ones with the lift
in the trunk :)

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Woerpel
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:11 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net; MGs
Subject: [Spridgets] EZcarlift

Anyone know anything about or have any experience with this lift?  
http://ezcarlift.com/
I know Moss sells it.  Kelvin??
 From what materials is the lift mechanism made?  I'd like to compare 
this with the MaxJax which can be ordered from Northern.

TIA,

Dave
59 MGA 1500
59 :{)
Burlington WI
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From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  2 17:39:23 2009
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:39:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] EZCarLift
Message-ID: <E96769EA9ACE400AA84C8CB29D0AA91C@HomeComputer>

The maxjax looks cool:

 

http://www.maxjaxusa.com/index.html

From pilotrob at msn.com  Tue Jun  2 17:49:17 2009
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:49:17 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Free Root Beer Float this Wednesday,
 June  3rd, at Sonic
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV11194561DB7984F209E94ED44D0@phx.gbl>

Oh...Root Beer float with chocolate ice cream.... :)

but no Sonics in the area.  RATS! :(

CapBob


-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Fornal
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 5:26 PM
To: Yahoo Spridget list, Spridget list, Drive by Truckers, Slobberbone
Subject: [midgetsprite] Free Root Beer Float this Wednesday, June 3rd, at
Sonic

For any Sonic fans out there....
I'll drive the Sprite, just for the fun of it.
LOL





Free Root Beer Floats at Sonic

[2009-06-01]   The pools are open, the kids are wrapping up the school year
and summer temperatures are heating up. SONIC Drive-InB. has the perfect way
to help kick off summer with a sweet treat that won't impact your wallet.

On Wednesday, June 3, SONIC will thank its customers with Free Float Night,
giving away free 10 ounce Root Beer Floats from 8 p.m. until midnight at
participating Sonic Drive-Ins. SONIC plans to give away more than 3.5
million Root Beer Floats to customers coast to coast during this special
event.

And starting Thursday, June 4, customers will receive a free Route 44B. drink
upgrade with the purchase of any combo meal.





________________________________________
PeoplePC Online
A better way to Internethttp://www.peoplepc.com




--
DON JULIO 1942

www.myspace.com/tequilabrad


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From Miniac7 at aol.com  Tue Jun  2 17:49:14 2009
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:49:14 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] List On or Off
Message-ID: <d07.55c59310.3757147a@aol.com>

It's awfully quiet out there. Is the list down, or is it just me?

Howard Collins
Virginia Beach, VA.
**************We found the real bHotel Californiab and the bSeinfeldb
diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com.
(http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve
-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml
cntnew00000007)

From nases at verizon.net  Tue Jun  2 17:51:03 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 19:51:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 wipers
Message-ID: <22EFF4F4-9481-4693-9B7D-5A8976431705@verizon.net>

My wipers only arc up about 90* and return.  Is this the way Bugeye  
stock wipers work?  They leave a lot of glass untouched.  Time for  
Rainx?


Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 18:09:43 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 18:09:43 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 wipers
In-Reply-To: <22EFF4F4-9481-4693-9B7D-5A8976431705@verizon.net>
References: <22EFF4F4-9481-4693-9B7D-5A8976431705@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910906021709l62282e7k45e5fe0ee6ff6dcc@mail.gmail.com>

RainX, yes.
You probably got a motor from a different car that has a different
number of wipers that run in a different arc.

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 18:23:08 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 17:23:08 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] EZCarLift
In-Reply-To: <E96769EA9ACE400AA84C8CB29D0AA91C@HomeComputer>
References: <E96769EA9ACE400AA84C8CB29D0AA91C@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906021723j5a729544q5df9fa89271d9af6@mail.gmail.com>

How does it remain 'up right' with a car on it?

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Jun  2 18:57:54 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:57:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Frank vs Asian tools
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJEEOBDGAA.shop@justbrits.com>

I got a mail today that has our very own FRANK 
written ALL OVER IT !!!   LMAO !!

http://www.justbrits.com/1275/Nailgun1.wmv

Will only be up for 2 days.  

Ed
(still LMAO !!!)

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  2 18:58:04 2009
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:58:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Felt Steering Column Bushing Grease?
Message-ID: <057CBF98DCA84FE885CBBA45606E159A@HomeComputer>

I am replacing the upper steering column felt bushing - is it supposed to be
greased?

If so, what kind of grease?

Dean Swanson

'62 A.H. Sprite mkII

Holly Springs, NC

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  2 19:03:28 2009
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 21:03:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] EZCarLift
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10906021723j5a729544q5df9fa89271d9af6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <E96769EA9ACE400AA84C8CB29D0AA91C@HomeComputer>
	<2ad6c6b10906021723j5a729544q5df9fa89271d9af6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6D83D3BE856E462CAC84C6F0BCC6F7E1@HomeComputer>

Unfortunately it is bolted to the floor - so I would not call it truly
portable - but it only takes a few minutes to assemble/disassemble after the
first time it is set up.

 

I do not have one - only seen it on the web and at:
http://garagejournal.com/

 

 

  _____  

From: WFO Herb [mailto:froggi60 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:23 PM
To: Dean Swanson
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EZCarLift

 

How does it remain 'up right' with a car on it?

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Tue Jun  2 19:05:11 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:05:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] unique non spridget Healey
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W286F5EA73D1D5AC21C4E1B84D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W286F5EA73D1D5AC21C4E1B84D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <92353FE172824CEF8CEB793E98CAAE49@CatheyBPC>

If anyone wants to go pick up it up  for me and drive it to Texas I will 
swap Iris for it:)  I LIKE it!!!!!!

Leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:55 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] unique non spridget Healey


> 1949 Austin Atlantic HEALEY
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From pilotrob at msn.com  Tue Jun  2 19:35:35 2009
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:35:35 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... FW: Frank vs Asian tools
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV1053B457B20E4BC0047B29D44A0@phx.gbl>

LOL... :)

"Why Ed....whatever do you mean?!" :)

CB

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun  2 20:19:19 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:19:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Felt Steering Column Bushing Grease?
In-Reply-To: <057CBF98DCA84FE885CBBA45606E159A@HomeComputer>
References: <057CBF98DCA84FE885CBBA45606E159A@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <4A25DDA7.7@comcast.net>

Dean Swanson wrote:
> I am replacing the upper steering column felt bushing - is it supposed to be
> greased?
>
> If so, what kind of grease?
>
>   
Soak it in oil.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  2 20:27:35 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 19:27:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Send good thoughts to Dr. Bob
Message-ID: <131760.42393.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A lot of you guys have met my brother Dr. Bob ("he got the brains") Soave through Thicktones sit-in gigs, the Buster Cluster, and VSCDA race crew for me. He's been going through some shit lately, and he got a bad biopsy report today from Sloan Kettering. After some tests later this week to confirm that it has not metastasized, we can hopefully take this head on and there is an excellent, excellent chance of 100% recovery. Anyway, he's loved getting to know you guys through the car and music stuff, and is STILL planning on coming out to Blackhawk Farms in a few weeks from NY to hang with us. If you can, send a prayer, positive energy or whatever you may believe in his way. Those of you who know him, I'm sure he'd love to hear a "hang in there" from you at kestrel2 at optonline.net.

Thanks,
Ron

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jun  2 20:55:52 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:55:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 wipers
References: <22EFF4F4-9481-4693-9B7D-5A8976431705@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C53FCB000F0C4D5193713C71F6E3E0E1@blackbox2>

You should disassemble the wiper unit.  It sounds like there is something wrong with
the brush contact inside the unit.  This is not the motor brushes, but an arched contact surface
that establishes the angle that the wiper sweeps.  It's inside the circular do-hicky where the 
exposed red wire goes in.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Nase" <nases at verizon.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 wipers


> My wipers only arc up about 90* and return.  Is this the way Bugeye  
> stock wipers work?  They leave a lot of glass untouched.  Time for  
> Rainx?

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun  2 21:05:59 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:05:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Send good thoughts to Dr. Bob
In-Reply-To: <131760.42393.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <131760.42393.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A25E897.1030605@frontiernet.net>

Good wishes and healing thoughts are on the way to Brother Bob, who must 
already be a Saint for putting up with a Spridgeteer for a brother.

Kate

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  2 21:17:36 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:17:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Send good thoughts to Dr. Bob
References: <131760.42393.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <835E02DD83BC4266A229FEF5FF448CF0@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Soave" <soavero at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>; <team-thicko at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:27 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Send good thoughts to Dr. Bob


A lot of you guys have met my brother Dr. Bob ("he got the brains") Soave 
through Thicktones sit-in gigs, the Buster Cluster, and VSCDA race crew for 
me. He's been going through some shit lately, and he got a bad biopsy report 
today from Sloan Kettering. After some tests later this week to confirm that 
it has not metastasized, we can hopefully take this head on and there is an 
excellent, excellent chance of 100% recovery. Anyway, he's loved getting to 
know you guys through the car and music stuff, and is STILL planning on 
coming out to Blackhawk Farms in a few weeks from NY to hang with us. If you 
can, send a prayer, positive energy or whatever you may believe in his way. 
Those of you who know him, I'm sure he'd love to hear a "hang in there" from 
you at kestrel2 at optonline.net.

Thanks,
Ron
_______________________________________________

Hey, y'all, if you haven't had the opportunity to meet Bob, you've missed 
somebody special.  Bob is a really great guy and this would be a great time 
to show him we care.  It so happens that I can only make it Sunday that 
weekend because of a family commitment.  I understand that BZ will be there 
on Sunday, too.  Let's see how many folks we can get together and have a 
good time, OK?  Maybe a big-time cookout and watch Ron kick some butt on the 
track?  Anybody close enough to make it, please jump in and join us.

If you can be there, say so.

LAD

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 00:23:04 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 23:23:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] mmm... crab...
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0906020816w485023ban1eae25dfddcbf14f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906020816w485023ban1eae25dfddcbf14f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A2616C8.7010704@gmail.com>

Blue crab is the superior crab for making crab cakes. The Pacific NW
thinks they know crab cakes but they are wrong.

Rick Bastedo wrote:
> What? Those guys don't have King or Dungeness crab?
> It's all over in the grocery stores here.
> That reminds me, I'll be in Alaska for a week next month.
> Where I'm going (Whale Pass, Prince of Wales Island) you can just go grab
> the Dungeness right out of the water at low tide - no crab pots needed (but
> they help if you want more).
> Salmon and Halibut and Crab... mm-mmm good!
>
> Rick (got fishin' on the brain) Bastedo
>
>
> **********************************************************
> From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
>
> I think Baltimore has some sort of crustacean that the locals, who have
> never tasted Dungenous crab, think are crab.
>
> Kate
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Wed Jun  3 01:01:58 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:01:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] mmm... crab...
In-Reply-To: <4A2616C8.7010704@gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906020816w485023ban1eae25dfddcbf14f@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A2616C8.7010704@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A261FE6.6010802@frontiernet.net>

One would never humble a Dungeness by putting it in a crab cake.  Common 
crab are fine for that.


William M. Gilroy wrote:
> Blue crab is the superior crab for making crab cakes. The Pacific NW
> thinks they know crab cakes but they are wrong.
>
> Rick Bastedo wrote:
>   
>> What? Those guys don't have King or Dungeness crab?
>> It's all over in the grocery stores here.
>> That reminds me, I'll be in Alaska for a week next month.
>> Where I'm going (Whale Pass, Prince of Wales Island) you can just go grab
>> the Dungeness right out of the water at low tide - no crab pots needed (but
>> they help if you want more).
>> Salmon and Halibut and Crab... mm-mmm good!
>>
>> Rick (got fishin' on the brain) Bastedo
>>
>>
>> **********************************************************
>> From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cheesesteak was BZ on FN
>>
>> I think Baltimore has some sort of crustacean that the locals, who have
>> never tasted Dungenous crab, think are crab.
>>
>> Kate
>> **********************************************************
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From kentmclean at comcast.net  Wed Jun  3 06:11:49 2009
From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:11:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye FS
Message-ID: <4A266885.5070704@comcast.net>

Not mine, NFI, it was posted to the Big Healey's list.  One is a nice
looking Bugeye.  I thought someone here might be interested. Don't reply
to me, I'm just passing the info along.

-- 
Kent McLean
'56 100 BN2

--- cut here ---


Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:49:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bob Brown <blkbt7 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Healeys] Fw: 2 Healeys for sale
To: midwestahc at yahoogroups.com, Healey List <healeys at autox.team.net>,
	bugeye at yahoogroups.com

A club member has asked me to distribute this information.
The  cars are in
the Chicago, IL area.
I have not seen either car or have any financial
interest.



Austin Healey lovers,

I am selling this beautiful rust free
1964 3000 Mark II with 58,000 original miles and my 1960 bugeye Sprite if any
one is interested.
The 1964 3000 is $45,000 and the 1960 Bugeye is $12,000.
The 3000 is totally original with fresh paint and the bugeye has been frame on
restored including many new parts like tires wheels convertible top side
curtains all new bushings and bearings in the front end wiring harness and
fuse block voltage regulator. It has a new leather interior and everything
works as it should. The pricing is flexible if someone wanted them both.
Both
excellent examples and ready to drive.


Click here to see some photos.

http://picasaweb.google.com/toddrieke/Healey

Todd Rieke
email
roi at rieke.com

From thefirebuilds at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 06:24:42 2009
From: thefirebuilds at gmail.com (Blake Thompson)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 07:24:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] EZCarLift
In-Reply-To: <6D83D3BE856E462CAC84C6F0BCC6F7E1@HomeComputer>
References: <E96769EA9ACE400AA84C8CB29D0AA91C@HomeComputer>
	<2ad6c6b10906021723j5a729544q5df9fa89271d9af6@mail.gmail.com>
	<6D83D3BE856E462CAC84C6F0BCC6F7E1@HomeComputer>
Message-ID: <BF677322-2910-48E7-B178-167BEEBE144A@gmail.com>

I have one.



On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:03 PM, "Dean Swanson" <d.swanson at earthlink.net>  
wrote:

> Unfortunately it is bolted to the floor - so I would not call it truly
> portable - but it only takes a few minutes to assemble/disassemble  
> after the
> first time it is set up.
>
>
>
> I do not have one - only seen it on the web and at:
> http://garagejournal.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: WFO Herb [mailto:froggi60 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 8:23 PM
> To: Dean Swanson
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EZCarLift
>
>
>
> How does it remain 'up right' with a car on it?
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jun  3 06:26:25 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 05:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Non-Shipable Parts FS
Message-ID: <134096.20585.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Guys and Gals,

This is a pre-Craigslist sale.

I have some large "stuff" I want to clear-out. It's all for local pickup in Central CT or for personal delivery within a reasonable distance.

NOS Bugeye front fenders
Early square body hood and front fenders - some rot (cheap)
wire wheel rear axle housing with diff.
2 wire wheels
1275 pollution engine - condition unknown
1098 complete - condition unknown
NOS exhausts - complete front to rear - I have single muffler as well as the later version with the twin silencers.

I also have a Bugeye dash and a Sprite MkII dash with the radio cut-outs intact. These I will ship.

Contact me off-list.

Thanks,

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  3 07:24:30 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:24:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II July 18
Message-ID: <103154.66390.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Making the official announcement for NOSHIT II at my place in Snohomish, WA.  I am located about 40 mins NE of Seattle, and 5 miles S of Everett.  I have a huge, level, driveway that can accomodate several cars easily.  Plenty of tools (but bring what you think you'll need).  As I get responses, I'll put together a more concrete plan.  I will be hoping to get my engine assembled and installed (or a loaner put in).  Either way, I want it driveable before summer ends!  All are welcome.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 07:35:53 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 08:35:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Send good thoughts to Dr. Bob
In-Reply-To: <402188520906030449n7b546386k631ea66215d1114e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <131760.42393.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<835E02DD83BC4266A229FEF5FF448CF0@Larry>
	<402188520906030449n7b546386k631ea66215d1114e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906030635t1c51fb59xd6fc37826b3b3da9@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm, Dr Bob will be there? Will Nurse Piggy show up? Will the patient
be ok, Dr Bob?
Lorry Denials

From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Jun  3 07:58:17 2009
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:58:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mk 1 wipers
References: <22EFF4F4-9481-4693-9B7D-5A8976431705@verizon.net>
	<C53FCB000F0C4D5193713C71F6E3E0E1@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <361054B03EE04E01BEFABC3A612A14AC@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

The travel of the wipers is a function of the nylon gear in the wiper unit. 
There should be a degree number stamped on the top of the gear.  There are 
various gears to suit various cars.  Sprites, Morris Minors, Austin A30, 35 
etc.  The location of the drive post relative to the axle of the gear is 
what determines the amount of cable pulled and pushed and hence the amount 
of windscreen swept with each stroke.  You can swap out the gear for the 
correct one if you can determine which one it is.  I believe I have a 
Sprite gear in my Morris truck wiper motor and the sweep is too little for 
the "clapping hands" wipers.  What a pain.  If the nut that attaches the 
cable housing to the wiper motor is not tight, the play will reduce the 
wiper throw also.


Glen Byrns


> You should disassemble the wiper unit.  It sounds like there is something 
> wrong with
> the brush contact inside the unit.  This is not the motor brushes, but an 
> arched contact surface
> that establishes the angle that the wiper sweeps.  It's inside the 
> circular do-hicky where the exposed red wire goes in.
>

>
>> My wipers only arc up about 90* and return.  Is this the way Bugeye 
>> stock wipers work?  They leave a lot of glass untouched.  Time for 
>> Rainx?

From gjbranch at comcast.net  Wed Jun  3 09:41:05 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:41:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo
Message-ID: <02f801c9e461$b51431d0$0201a8c0@DELL>

Greetings, it's been a while:

My speedo stopped working.  It's not the speedo itself; the cable is not
turning.  Also the cable cannot be turned when the car is still, making me
think that the cable is ok.  But I cannot get the cable disonnected from the
transmission drive....it's too cramped in the tunnel.

Anyone have any ideas on how to disconnect the cable in the tunnel?

Anyone know where I can get a replacement speedo drive for the Datsun 5 speed?

Thanks.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun  3 10:39:29 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:39:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat bases, no crabs
Message-ID: <BFCC664BE1C9443D9C241568EF8DE4DF@Home>

Back from crabs to LBC's:

BE seat bases rot out early, and replacements are expensive, although Alan's are more reasonable.  In 1965, the  base changed from metal to a diaphragm with hooks to a tube frame, which is a taller than the BE frame.  The foam seat cushion may also be taller to make up the difference.  I see no obvious reason why the 1965 cushion foam could not be set on a plywood (or??) base screwed to the BE frame.  The '65 foam appears to be similar in shape to the '63 upholstery, which I prefer.  If it is not tall enough, rectangular fillers in stiff foam or some other stiff waterproof material can adjust the height.

As I think about it, the '63 foam must be shaped on the bottom to match the metal base.  It should not be hard to fill in with some other foam glued to the stock form to make it match a flat plywood diaphragm.

Any thoughts?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Bugeye kit
Long Island, NY

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  2 15:49:09 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 15:49:09 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Wide Tyres
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906021126o496ea88bw47885fa3ff0cb786@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906021126o496ea88bw47885fa3ff0cb786@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0906021449j1489fc05gb3272b109c5ffd64@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

What is involved with getting wide tyres on my Bugeye as in the pic? Or, at
least wider than the stock skinnys that I currently have?

With disk brakes instead of drums you will have to use longer studs and
spacers. I run 205/60/13s on 5.5 inch Cosmic magnesium wheels. They are
spaced out 1/2 inch so the tires don't rub on the frame member when at full
turn. You also have to bob the bottom part of the fender/valance where it
curves back in towards the car. The tires will rub even in easy turns if you
don't. I bought a fiberglass bonnet so that I wouldn't have to butcher a
really nice steel bonnet...


-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  3 12:11:39 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 11:11:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo
In-Reply-To: <02f801c9e461$b51431d0$0201a8c0@DELL>
References: <02f801c9e461$b51431d0$0201a8c0@DELL>
Message-ID: <47960.3818.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Mine had a 90 degree adapter in the tunnel that makes getting it off easy.  PaulA has the best stuff as far as speedo cables go.  He might even have the adapter.
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 8:41:05 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo

Greetings, it's been a while:

My speedo stopped working.  It's not the speedo itself; the cable is not
turning.  Also the cable cannot be turned when the car is still, making me
think that the cable is ok.  But I cannot get the cable disonnected from the
transmission drive....it's too cramped in the tunnel.

Anyone have any ideas on how to disconnect the cable in the tunnel?

Anyone know where I can get a replacement speedo drive for the Datsun 5 speed?

Thanks.
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From haynes386 at netzero.net  Wed Jun  3 12:45:18 2009
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:45:18 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] last bit of side curtain seals
Message-ID: <20090603.124518.2608.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>

The side curtain seal saga continues, if only for just a bit more. I've got
the seals installed everywhere but along the front, angled edge. It looks like
the seal should be bonded on, but I'm not one to go by the looks of things
(especially since I had the seals backwards to start- D'Oh!). Can anyone
clarify this since there seem to be at least two types sealing flaps along the
edge or does is all get crammed into the groove?


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
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From richb at u.washington.edu  Wed Jun  3 13:24:33 2009
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:24:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Metro
Message-ID: <D0040EF8AA9F40E09A4FE42E276CC70F@psych.washington.edu>

I met a guy at our local MG club meeting last night that has an right hand
drive MG Metro .  He said it is one of three on the west coast,  and there in
lies the problem.  Appearantly the Metro has a hydor-something-or-other
suspention and his has sprung a leak.  Does anyone here know of a source of
parts that he can contact?

Thanks

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun  3 13:58:38 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:58:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Metro
In-Reply-To: <D0040EF8AA9F40E09A4FE42E276CC70F@psych.washington.edu>
References: <D0040EF8AA9F40E09A4FE42E276CC70F@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <C73D514FDDC84A979315D44BD0ADF455@spider>

Hydragas. 

http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/kb.php?aid=72

http://www.hydragas.co.uk/parts.html

...bill in Oregon
=======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ball
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:25 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Metro

I met a guy at our local MG club meeting last night that has an right hand
drive MG Metro .  He said it is one of three on the west coast,  and there
in
lies the problem.  Apparently the Metro has a hydor-something-or-other
suspension and his has sprung a leak.  Does anyone here know of a source of
parts that he can contact?

Thanks

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa
_______________________________________________

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  3 16:13:14 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:13:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II July 18
In-Reply-To: <103154.66390.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <103154.66390.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W9FA37DE286D22C6052188CA4A0@phx.gbl>

Count me in and I'll be bringing a loaner engine if it isn't already there.
Bill

> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:24:30 -0700
> From: eap2140 at yahoo.com
> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II July 18
>
> Making the official announcement for NOSHIT II at my place in Snohomish, WA.
I am located about 40 mins NE of Seattle, and 5 miles S of Everett.  I have a
huge, level, driveway that can accomodate several cars easily.  Plenty of
tools (but bring what you think you'll need).  As I get responses, I'll put
together a more concrete plan.  I will be hoping to get my engine assembled
and installed (or a loaner put in).  Either way, I want it driveable before
summer ends!  All are welcome.
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Wed Jun  3 16:20:00 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:20:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Metro
In-Reply-To: <D0040EF8AA9F40E09A4FE42E276CC70F@psych.washington.edu>
References: <D0040EF8AA9F40E09A4FE42E276CC70F@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W30DAC113F2F2ED0FA43E4ECA4A0@phx.gbl>

Unless it uses the same hydro-spaztic units as the Austin America/MG100 then I
think that he needs to go to Canada, but if it does then there are lots of
sources.
BillM

> From: richb at u.washington.edu
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 12:24:33 -0700
> Subject: [Spridgets] MG Metro
>
> I met a guy at our local MG club meeting last night that has an right hand
> drive MG Metro .  He said it is one of three on the west coast,  and there
in
> lies the problem.  Appearantly the Metro has a hydor-something-or-other
> suspention and his has sprung a leak.  Does anyone here know of a source of
> parts that he can contact?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rich Ball
> '76 Midget
> Everett, Wa
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Wed Jun  3 16:28:35 2009
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 15:28:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] another left coast creampuff
Message-ID: <91139947974540D5AF977D35DD72D7FD@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1199194022.html


Looks like a "done-by-dinnertime" job for Frank.

Glen

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun  3 16:32:40 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:32:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tall Springs
Message-ID: <2EDC15477E9F43E0AA31CB79801DAC40@Home>

There has been recent discussion of rear springs being too high.  I just looked more closely at my BE rolling tub and the front springs (disk conversion) are also really high.  The center of the tub is 9.5" above ground, which seems like too much for the weight of the engine to take up.  I know of one BE that has clamps on the coil springs to bring them down level.  I don't know why this was necessary.

Why would my whole car be too high?  Is there also a significant difference between alternative stock coils?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Bugeye kit
Long Island, NY

From Miniac7 at aol.com  Wed Jun  3 16:40:18 2009
From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:40:18 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] VIR Gold Cup - Roll Call
Message-ID: <bce.491a604a.375855d2@aol.com>

I was just wondering which if any listers were planning to be at the Gold
Cup historic races this coming weekend at VIR. I'll be there with a few
friends and we'll be camping in the wooded area before the  lake, in the rear
corner close to paddock, in the vicinity of where many of  the Spridget teams
usually set up.

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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 17:06:37 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 16:06:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Quote
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906031606v460c722t54d0602081aa57b9@mail.gmail.com>

Oversteer scares passengers, understeer scares drivers.

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jun  3 17:36:27 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:36:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] another left coast creampuff
In-Reply-To: <91139947974540D5AF977D35DD72D7FD@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <C64C570B.17BAD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

A '61 with roll-up windows.  How nice.
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1199194022.html

From george.brokaw at cox.net  Wed Jun  3 18:07:07 2009
From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:07:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] another left coast creampuff
In-Reply-To: <C64C570B.17BAD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <91139947974540D5AF977D35DD72D7FD@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<C64C570B.17BAD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <075401c9e4a8$665e8940$331b9bc0$@brokaw@cox.net>

I will put in my guess...

'67 or '68?  Looks like fold back convertible frame but "only" two wipers.


-----Original Message-----
A '61 with roll-up windows.  How nice.
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1199194022.html

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Jun  3 20:02:30 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:02:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
Message-ID: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>

Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.

http://www.ado13.com/cfh/cfh.htm

From pilotrob at msn.com  Wed Jun  3 20:12:12 2009
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:12:12 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... BUGIII's Latest Mod
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV11B46668D5E68E6C9DF0E4D44B0@phx.gbl>

Whoa, whoa!! :):)

CapBob

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun  3 20:13:42 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:13:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II July 18
In-Reply-To: <001901c9e4b7$b751a8a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <103154.66390.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<BLU107-W9FA37DE286D22C6052188CA4A0@phx.gbl>
	<001901c9e4b7$b751a8a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
Message-ID: <812443.26277.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'll make some pulled pork BBQ and put up some of  my kids' coloring pictures while you work.... how's that.  You CAN have it all!!  Cars, art, pork.  Life is good!




________________________________
From: Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
To: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>; Ed Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; spridget list <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II July 18

Bummer!!  That conflicts with an Art Fair in Salem I always do.  Car stuff
really is more fun than pulling apart cooked pork for a food booth!

Oh, the things you get to do in life!!

Later, Paul A


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Masquelier" <billmasq at hotmail.com>
To: "Ed Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; "spridget list"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II July 18


> Count me in and I'll be bringing a loaner engine if it isn't already
there.
> Bill
>
> > Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:24:30 -0700
> > From: eap2140 at yahoo.com
> > To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II July 18
> >
> > Making the official announcement for NOSHIT II at my place in Snohomish,
WA.
> I am located about 40 mins NE of Seattle, and 5 miles S of Everett.  I
have a
> huge, level, driveway that can accomodate several cars easily.  Plenty of
> tools (but bring what you think you'll need).  As I get responses, I'll
put
> together a more concrete plan.  I will be hoping to get my engine
assembled
> and installed (or a loaner put in).  Either way, I want it driveable
before
> summer ends!  All are welcome.
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From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 20:15:11 2009
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:15:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
Message-ID: <8c1781040906031915s29978f9ex66fce296a59fd4fa@mail.gmail.com>

Good Golly Gracious!

It too me a second, but then my jaw dropped.  Did you do any comparison numbers?

Trevor

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller
<millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
>
> http://www.ado13.com/cfh/cfh.htm
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun  3 20:18:11 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:18:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Metro
In-Reply-To: <D0040EF8AA9F40E09A4FE42E276CC70F@psych.washington.edu>
References: <D0040EF8AA9F40E09A4FE42E276CC70F@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <4A272EE3.4000802@comcast.net>

Richard Ball wrote:
> I met a guy at our local MG club meeting last night that has an right hand
> drive MG Metro .  He said it is one of three on the west coast,  and there in
> lies the problem.  Appearantly the Metro has a hydor-something-or-other
> suspention and his has sprung a leak.  Does anyone here know of a source of
> parts that he can contact?
>   
A Mini guy near me has the Hydro Spastic machine to refill the system.
If it is hydrolastic, it is pressurized anti freeze but like 300 psi.
If he can make it to Jersey......

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From mark at nashvilletn.org  Wed Jun  3 20:30:18 2009
From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:30:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... BUGIII's Latest Mod
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
Message-ID: <2BF2FE3A89594FB5A22FC41E0A9514C7@Dell9200>

Crossflow head on an A series??  Never heard of such a thing.  Looks like 
intake is part of the head??  Way Cool!!



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
To: "Bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:02 PM
Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... BUGIII's Latest Mod


Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.

http://www.ado13.com/cfh/cfh.htm

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun  3 20:41:58 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:41:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
Message-ID: <4A273476.2060306@comcast.net>

Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
>
You're gonna pass everything on the road but the gas station ;)
How's it go?


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun  3 20:46:59 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:46:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.
Message-ID: <4A2735A3.3060708@comcast.net>

No juice to the rear wheels was a bad shuttle valve or what ever is in 
the brass failure switch.
And of my 2 spares, both had the same problem.
How many Spridgets are running with no rear brakes?
Pedal was hard, air could be blown thru the shuttle but fluid did not 
pass the shuttle which did it's job when the brakes failed back in 1977.
I pulled out the plunger, not exactly as the book states with gentle air 
pressure since 120 psi didn't move it but when you heat it up and melt 
the shuttle seals, it comes out.
No shuttle now and the brakes are fine. I even had a boogered thread on 
the union which had a leak, all fixed now.
BTW, it's sold!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Jun  3 20:47:28 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:47:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040906031915s29978f9ex66fce296a59fd4fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
	<8c1781040906031915s29978f9ex66fce296a59fd4fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B27E2774-3486-4D43-98F8-EE7D48ACE896@ado13.com>

Not yet. Clutch problems at the moment. It goes like stink as soon as  
the clutch catches up. The dyno numbers on the head are 15-25% over  
the aluminum head.

On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote:

> Good Golly Gracious!
>
> It too me a second, but then my jaw dropped.  Did you do any  
> comparison numbers?
>
> Trevor
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller
> <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
>> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
>>
>> http://www.ado13.com/cfh/cfh.htm
>>
>>
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From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Jun  3 20:57:01 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 19:57:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <2BF2FE3A89594FB5A22FC41E0A9514C7@Dell9200>
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
	<2BF2FE3A89594FB5A22FC41E0A9514C7@Dell9200>
Message-ID: <BE1FFE0D-8B25-48FB-A306-B7B0CD25682E@ado13.com>

It is the Pierce Manifolds prototype for the "A" series. The intake is  
part of the head.


On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:30 PM, Mark wrote:

> Crossflow head on an A series??  Never heard of such a thing.  Looks  
> like
> intake is part of the head??  Way Cool!!
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
> To: "Bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net 
> >
> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:02 PM
> Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... BUGIII's Latest Mod
>
>
> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
>
> http://www.ado13.com/cfh/cfh.htm
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From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Jun  3 21:00:10 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:00:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <4A273476.2060306@comcast.net>
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
	<4A273476.2060306@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <05BCACD4-CBD9-4C03-B2B9-488325ED5EA6@ado13.com>

Slipping clutch when shifting so have to wait for it to catch up. Goes  
like stink once the clutch hooks up. Not sure what the clutch problem  
is.


On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Frank wrote:

> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:
>> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
>>
> You're gonna pass everything on the road but the gas station ;)
> How's it go?
>
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From pythias at pacifier.com  Wed Jun  3 21:04:03 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:04:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
Message-ID: <1795190020.20090603200403@pacifier.com>

Hello Larry,

     A twin cam B.E. wasn't enough, you had to go and do THIS?

     You are truly one of the gifted...!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  The expert is a person who avoids the small errors as he sweeps on to the grand fallacy.

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Jun  3 21:15:34 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:15:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <1795190020.20090603200403@pacifier.com>
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
	<1795190020.20090603200403@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <C4667306-65A7-47A6-9133-863D45A8BB47@ado13.com>

Or one of the terminally stupid.


On Jun 3, 2009, at 8:04 PM, Bill L wrote:

> Hello Larry,
>
>     A twin cam B.E. wasn't enough, you had to go and do THIS?
>
>     You are truly one of the gifted...!
>
> --  
> Best regards,
> Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
>
>  The expert is a person who avoids the small errors as he sweeps on  
> to the grand fallacy.

From millerls at ado13.com  Wed Jun  3 21:19:09 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:19:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking Of Clutchs
Message-ID: <A6176DF6-F588-47B7-A0A4-B6DF034220C0@ado13.com>

Shifting under full (or near full) throttle causes the clutch to slip  
like crazy but will catch up when you let up a little. Once hooked up  
there is not slippage.

This started prior to the installation of the cross flow.

Any thoughts?

From davriker at nwi.net  Wed Jun  3 21:27:47 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 20:27:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
Message-ID: <9CB5D103FFEC463DB2895321C1375B5B@MAIN>

Very Nice.

David R.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
To: "Bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>; "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:02 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod


> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
>
> http://www.ado13.com/cfh/cfh.htm

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Jun  3 22:31:45 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:31:45 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] On the road, need a place to crash. No LBC!!!
Message-ID: <b777e2be0906032131u7204d2feg858fd56a3a7552e6@mail.gmail.com>

Fellow Spridgeteers,

I just got a great deal on accomodations in Key West, FL. I'll be headed
from Nashville, TN, on Friday morning towards my destination. Anyone have a
couch that I can crash on Friday night around the bottom of Georgia to
mid-Florida? Check-in is 4 PM on Saturday. I'll buy the beer and pizza and
talk spridgets all evening! It will be just me. My wife is flying down on
Sunday... I'll even settle for a driveway to park in and sleep in my car.

I am not a crazed killer. I don't even own an axe! I had to borrow a hatchet
for a backyard project last week...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From davriker at nwi.net  Wed Jun  3 22:59:59 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 21:59:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay
Message-ID: <8780DB5D610943269DA5EE1B277EAE2C@MAIN>

Is anyone else having problems with the search function on ebay?  I cannot get
the pages to advance.  Have tried the little arrow, next, the page number, and
go to, but the only thing that happens is I pop back up to the top of the page
I was viewing.

I have tried the "opt out" of the new ebay search,
I have tried clearing my cookies and page cache.
I have tried visiting their forums.
I have sent an email to ebay help.

EBAY SUCKS.

Dave R.

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Wed Jun  3 23:01:22 2009
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:01:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo
Message-ID: <672002.39233.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Geoff, which kit do you use ? Morriservice?, rivergate?

I think mine has an issue inside the trans. (mine is a rivergate kit) The
speedo drive dog dosen't always turn.
It is such a pain to get your hand in there down through the shifter hole,to
get the adaptor on and off, which i have done several times to try to solve
the issue.

I am not 100% sure whether my problem is the drive inside the trans, or
whether it is the male dog on the adaptor not engaging properly when the
adaptor it screwed into place.
It is not a problem I am willing to pull the driveline out for...so for now
"ignorance is bliss", when it comes to how fast i am going.

Andy
sprite MkIIa 1293cc 5speed, Gold Coast Australia

--- On Thu, 4/6/09, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo
To: "Geoff Branch" <gjbranch at comcast.net>, spridgets at autox.team.net
Received: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 4:11 AM

Mine had a 90 degree adapter in the tunnel that makes getting it off easy. 
PaulA has the best stuff as far as speedo cables go.  He might even have the
adapter.
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 8:41:05 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo

Greetings, it's been a while:

My speedo stopped working.  It's not the speedo itself; the cable is not
turning.  Also the cable cannot be turned when the car is still, making me
think that the cable is ok.  But I cannot get the cable disonnected from the
transmission drive....it's too cramped in the tunnel.

Anyone have any ideas on how to disconnect the cable in the tunnel?

Anyone know where I can get a replacement speedo drive for the Datsun 5
speed?

Thanks.
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From bkitterer at me.com  Wed Jun  3 23:30:12 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:30:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
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Larry,

Another great job.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 3, 2009, at 7:02 PM, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote:

> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
>
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From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Jun  4 02:52:21 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:52:21 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Metro
References: <D0040EF8AA9F40E09A4FE42E276CC70F@psych.washington.edu>
	<4A272EE3.4000802@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2C853FF47EE64B0CB0F4FA2FB51FEA1F@dell330>

Just to expand a little on what Frank says I found the following recipes for 
a Hydrolastic fluid mix:
http://www.hydragas.co.uk/technical.html

Official Recipe:
 49% alcohol,
49% distilled water,
1 % triethanolamine phosphate
1% sodium mercaptobenzthiazole,

Australia. The firm of H.C. Sleigh (Golden Fleece) marketed a fluid to the 
following specification:
Alcohol 50%,
Water 24.45%,
Bentmazol 0.05%,
Ethylene Glycol 3%, (Bomar)?
0.50%, Union Carbide
HB5100 22% (this is a viscosity improver).

Carl Blom (Sweden):
Distilled (de-ionized) water,  33%
regular coolant glycol  33%
pure alcohol is a good mixture.  33%
1/3 of each was fine for me as the original expensive fluid was rotting the 
metal can it came in ....

Charles Dundas (New Zealand):
My recipe (basically 50:50 green glycol coolant & methylated spirits)is from 
here:
http://austin1800.homestead.com/Page11.html








----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Richard Ball" <richb at u.washington.edu>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG Metro


> Richard Ball wrote:
>> I met a guy at our local MG club meeting last night that has an right 
>> hand
>> drive MG Metro .  He said it is one of three on the west coast,  and 
>> there in
>> lies the problem.  Appearantly the Metro has a hydor-something-or-other
>> suspention and his has sprung a leak.  Does anyone here know of a source 
>> of
>> parts that he can contact?
>>
> A Mini guy near me has the Hydro Spastic machine to refill the system.
> If it is hydrolastic, it is pressurized anti freeze but like 300 psi.
> If he can make it to Jersey......
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Thu Jun  4 05:36:40 2009
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 04:36:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
Message-ID: <998139.7240.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Larry,
that looks superb...
can i fire some questions?
* is this prototype likely to go into production?
* how long will a plug change take now?

looks really really good with four barrel induction.

Andy


--- On Thu, 4/6/09, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:

From: Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
To: "Bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>, "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Received: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 12:02 PM

Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.

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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Thu Jun  4 05:47:52 2009
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 04:47:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
Message-ID: <200906041147.n54BlqYD010352@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu>

Now thats the head for EFI!!


Glen



> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
> 
> http://www.ado13.com/cfh/cfh.htm

From abcoz at hky.com  Thu Jun  4 05:53:31 2009
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 07:53:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] On the road, need a place to crash. No LBC!!!
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0906032131u7204d2feg858fd56a3a7552e6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b777e2be0906032131u7204d2feg858fd56a3a7552e6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55D763C77F68421E890675032B34B343@OwnerPC>

I'll vouch for Kent.  He's a good guy and, if he were heading through PA, my 
wife and I would certainly offer him our guest room.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CosmicMag1380" <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 12:31 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] On the road, need a place to crash. No LBC!!!


> Fellow Spridgeteers,
>
> I just got a great deal on accomodations in Key West, FL. I'll be headed
> from Nashville, TN, on Friday morning towards my destination. Anyone have 
> a
> couch that I can crash on Friday night around the bottom of Georgia to
> mid-Florida? Check-in is 4 PM on Saturday. I'll buy the beer and pizza and
> talk spridgets all evening! It will be just me. My wife is flying down on
> Sunday... I'll even settle for a driveway to park in and sleep in my car.
>
> I am not a crazed killer. I don't even own an axe! I had to borrow a 
> hatchet
> for a backyard project last week...
>
> -- 
> Kent
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 06:20:32 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 07:20:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <D248B467-3268-4580-84A4-37180FC851A7@me.com>
References: <8CA882224E92449C86D7AFAFB8B173D6@HP>
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Ya need to talk Glen into installing MegaSquirt on that head!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 06:46:32 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 07:46:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo
In-Reply-To: <672002.39233.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <672002.39233.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I haven't gotten around to buying the parts yet... I installed a
SigmaSport bicycle speedometer instead.

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 06:47:54 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 05:47:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
Message-ID: <256811.41672.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Larry,
Very cool! It looks like an 8 port head, and you've modified it to use your
LCB. Is my guess correct? I can't see how you could do that in the available
space. Would you care to elaborate? It sure is great to have a company with
such capabilities be interested in our old A-series engines. Long live the
A-series!
John
Fogelsville, PA


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From: Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
To: "Bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>, "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 10:02 PM

Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.

http://www.ado13.com/cfh/cfh.htm
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From gjbranch at comcast.net  Thu Jun  4 07:30:25 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:30:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo
References: <672002.39233.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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I'm heading that way too!  Where did you put the sending unit?

Summit sells an electronic speedo that appears to fit in the dash hole and a 
kit for pickups on the driveshaft, but I have heard that it's inaccurate 
below 35mph.....yeah, yeah, I know that fix:  DON'T DRIVE BELOW 35!!!!
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo


>I haven't gotten around to buying the parts yet... I installed a
> SigmaSport bicycle speedometer instead.
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From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Jun  4 07:36:02 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 06:36:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <998139.7240.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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They are making 50 of the heads. Plugs are not as bad to change as  
they look.



On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:36 AM, Andy Webster wrote:

> Larry,
> that looks superb...
> can i fire some questions?
> * is this prototype likely to go into production?
> * how long will a plug change take now?
>
> looks really really good with four barrel induction.
>
> Andy
>
>
> --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
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> Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
> To: "Bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>, "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net 
> >
> Received: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 12:02 PM
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 07:56:41 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 08:56:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <402188520906040656l1da4a207icc3f58b9ad376a87@mail.gmail.com>
References: <256811.41672.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188520906040650l75584eden7d5369408a438c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520906040656l1da4a207icc3f58b9ad376a87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906040656x595a168al7d201a01abcb6b97@mail.gmail.com>

Larry,
What is that black cannister that your crankcase venting seems to route to?
What front suspension setup is that?
Have you locked down an exclusive dealership for those heads yet?
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 08:02:32 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:02:32 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun 5 speed speedo
In-Reply-To: <03ce01c9e518$9e8dd1c0$0201a8c0@DELL>
References: <672002.39233.qm@web50601.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<402188520906040546qb5412e5ydef4df459ee9a1c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<03ce01c9e518$9e8dd1c0$0201a8c0@DELL>
Message-ID: <402188520906040702o33bd3a6cvd9b91cdae9a846@mail.gmail.com>

>> I haven't gotten around to buying the parts yet... I installed a
>> SigmaSport bicycle speedometer instead.

> I'm heading that way too!  Where did you put the sending unit?
>
> Summit sells an electronic speedo that appears to fit in the dash hole and a
> kit for pickups on the driveshaft, but I have heard that it's inaccurate
> below 35mph.....yeah, yeah, I know that fix:  DON'T DRIVE BELOW 35!!!!


Geoff,
The SigmaSport BC1200 I used is not perfect. It has no backlight. It
loses its settings when the battery dies. It can only process so many
pulses per second. I can live with that. I tried reading the
driveshaft, but it was too many pulses per second. Speedo worked fine,
but all of the "calculated" functions (odometers, average speed, etc)
were all wrong (400 miles from Chicago to Allentown, PA?). OTOH, using
one of the rear backing plate bolts to mount a bracket to read a
magnet JBWelded to the brake drum works great. Wire up through the
tunnel with the brake line.
David L

From dwgwater at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  4 08:09:56 2009
From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:09:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.
In-Reply-To: <4A2735A3.3060708@comcast.net>
References: <4A2735A3.3060708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU147-W5530072C348640D03163BCE4B0@phx.gbl>

what did you replace the shuttle valve with?  Mine is NG
Dave

70 Midget

> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:46:59 -0400
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.
>
> No juice to the rear wheels was a bad shuttle valve or what ever is in
> the brass failure switch.
> And of my 2 spares, both had the same problem.
> How many Spridgets are running with no rear brakes?
> Pedal was hard, air could be blown thru the shuttle but fluid did not
> pass the shuttle which did it's job when the brakes failed back in 1977.
> I pulled out the plunger, not exactly as the book states with gentle air
> pressure since 120 psi didn't move it but when you heat it up and melt
> the shuttle seals, it comes out.
> No shuttle now and the brakes are fine. I even had a boogered thread on
> the union which had a leak, all fixed now.
> BTW, it's sold!
>
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From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Jun  4 08:22:48 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 07:22:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <402188520906040656x595a168al7d201a01abcb6b97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <256811.41672.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<402188520906040650l75584eden7d5369408a438c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520906040656l1da4a207icc3f58b9ad376a87@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520906040656x595a168al7d201a01abcb6b97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BA27D751-0F97-4B80-B961-1520FE1A69F0@ado13.com>

It's a washer bottle painted black with a filter that more or less  
fits the bottle. Knowing Pierce they will probably be sold by MOSS and  
Mini Mania.

On Jun 4, 2009, at 6:56 AM, David Lieb wrote:

> Larry,
> What is that black cannister that your crankcase venting seems to  
> route to?
> What front suspension setup is that?
> Have you locked down an exclusive dealership for those heads yet?
> David L

From richb at u.washington.edu  Thu Jun  4 08:39:20 2009
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 07:39:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.
References: <4A2735A3.3060708@comcast.net>
	<BLU147-W5530072C348640D03163BCE4B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <A197AA50405F44A5842EE50E2030DAD8@psych.washington.edu>

Peter C. sells a pressure warning valve rebuild kit with two new seals and 
the copper washer.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Groundwater" <dwgwater at hotmail.com>
To: <spritenut at comcast.net>; <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.


> what did you replace the shuttle valve with?  Mine is NG
> Dave
>
> 70 Midget
>
>> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:46:59 -0400
>> From: spritenut at comcast.net
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.
>>
>> No juice to the rear wheels was a bad shuttle valve or what ever is in
>> the brass failure switch.
>> And of my 2 spares, both had the same problem.
>> How many Spridgets are running with no rear brakes?
>> Pedal was hard, air could be blown thru the shuttle but fluid did not
>> pass the shuttle which did it's job when the brakes failed back in 1977.
>> I pulled out the plunger, not exactly as the book states with gentle air
>> pressure since 120 psi didn't move it but when you heat it up and melt
>> the shuttle seals, it comes out.
>> No shuttle now and the brakes are fine. I even had a boogered thread on
>> the union which had a leak, all fixed now.
>> BTW, it's sold!
>>
>> --
>> Frank Clarici
>> Toms River, NJ
>> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From jmj3351 at comcast.net  Thu Jun  4 10:14:55 2009
From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:14:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay
In-Reply-To: <8780DB5D610943269DA5EE1B277EAE2C@MAIN>
Message-ID: <1538854378.637201244132095133.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I agree, Ebay sucks. For farB more reasons than you mention. Far too many
people have become dependent on them to conduct business only to be screwed by
them. You are subject to their whim with little or no recourse.

JMJ3351 Green 1500


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:59:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay

Is anyone else having problems with the search function on ebay? B I cannot
get
the pages to advance. B Have tried the little arrow, next, the page number,
and
go to, but the only thing that happens is I pop back up to the top of the page
I was viewing.

I have tried the "opt out" of the new ebay search,
I have tried clearing my cookies and page cache.
I have tried visiting their forums.
I have sent an email to ebay help.

EBAY SUCKS.

Dave R.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 10:45:54 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:45:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking Of Clutchs
Message-ID: <604818.80018.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Sounds like you need more clamping power from the pressure plate or more
grabbing power from the clutch disc.  How long ago did you last replace these
items?  I assume somebody makes a heavier duty version for racing - that might
be the way to go. 
 
Had similar issues with my Mustang once a bunch of performance stuff had upped
the power significantly.  Finally fixed it by using the pressure plate from an
F350 if I remember correctly.  Only problem was my knee shaking when I had to
depress the clutch...
 
 - David Booker
'71 Midget w/ brand new clutch / pressure plate / throwout bearing
Long Island

--- On Wed, 6/3/09, Larry Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:


From: Larry Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Speaking Of Clutchs
To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 10:19 PM


Shifting under full (or near full) throttle causes the clutch to slip like
crazy but will catch up when you let up a little. Once hooked up there is not
slippage.

This started prior to the installation of the cross flow.

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From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 11:13:59 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 12:13:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay
In-Reply-To: <1538854378.637201244132095133.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <8780DB5D610943269DA5EE1B277EAE2C@MAIN>
	<1538854378.637201244132095133.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090906041013s63826b34ha0c4fef49124823d@mail.gmail.com>

I have only been screwed once on eBay, with around 300 purchases completed.
I sent cash to an auction in the UK, and had documentation showing it hit
the shores of "jolly old". Regardless, seller said it never arrived. Since,
I have been able to enlist the aid of a Prince amongst Men, to assist with
the eBay UK auctions that I deal with. I try to keep it as infrequent as
possible, so as to not become a burden.
The latest gripe I have had lately, is the push to use the eBay owned PayPal
(a-holes). Only one auction would not let me bid, since I didn't have an
account. Most, I'll ask the seller if they will accept a money order prior
to bidding. I am getting more and more positive response to that question
every time I ask it. I can only assume that sellers are just as pissed at
P.P. as I am.

Brad

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:14 AM, <jmj3351 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I agree, Ebay sucks. For farB more reasons than you mention. Far too many
> people have become dependent on them to conduct business only to be screwed
> by
> them. You are subject to their whim with little or no recourse.
>
> JMJ3351 Green 1500
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:59:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay
>
> Is anyone else having problems with the search function on ebay? B I cannot
> get
> the pages to advance. B Have tried the little arrow, next, the page number,
> and
> go to, but the only thing that happens is I pop back up to the top of the
> page
> I was viewing.
>
> I have tried the "opt out" of the new ebay search,
> I have tried clearing my cookies and page cache.
> I have tried visiting their forums.
> I have sent an email to ebay help.
>
> EBAY SUCKS.
>
> Dave R.
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  4 13:22:51 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:22:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.
In-Reply-To: <4A2735A3.3060708@comcast.net>
References: <4A2735A3.3060708@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W4144AFBE522DCA8F7C7C52C24B0@phx.gbl>

Interesting problem/solution.

love to see some pics.
Did you sell it back to the original owner?



Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!

ps The rubber straps that you used for my bonnet hold down.
Do you remember where you got them?
I'd like to get another set, as when I hit some bumps, the bonnet
shifts and falls off the rubber channel.
Then the tires rub going around corners.



> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 22:46:59 -0400
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.
>
> No juice to the rear wheels was a bad shuttle valve or what ever is in
> the brass failure switch.
> And of my 2 spares, both had the same problem.
> How many Spridgets are running with no rear brakes?
> Pedal was hard, air could be blown thru the shuttle but fluid did not
> pass the shuttle which did it's job when the brakes failed back in 1977.
> I pulled out the plunger, not exactly as the book states with gentle air
> pressure since 120 psi didn't move it but when you heat it up and melt
> the shuttle seals, it comes out.
> No shuttle now and the brakes are fine. I even had a boogered thread on
> the union which had a leak, all fixed now.
> BTW, it's sold!
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites


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From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun  4 14:28:58 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:28:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.
In-Reply-To: <BLU147-W5530072C348640D03163BCE4B0@phx.gbl>
References: <4A2735A3.3060708@comcast.net>
	<BLU147-W5530072C348640D03163BCE4B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A282E8A.8070505@comcast.net>

David Groundwater wrote:
> what did you replace the shuttle valve with?  Mine is NG

An empty space, it will never be a problem again.
All it does is turn on a dash light to let you know your brakes failed.
When the pedal hits the floor, you already know your brakes failed.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From jimndi at frontiernet.net  Thu Jun  4 14:31:57 2009
From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim  F.)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:31:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay
References: <8780DB5D610943269DA5EE1B277EAE2C@MAIN><1538854378.637201244132095133.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<e98d88090906041013s63826b34ha0c4fef49124823d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A39777B26D647EABBD79983036E2730@MAINCOMPUTER>

Don't know,
I've bought tons of stuff from old grey norm on E-Bay and never had a 
problem.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: <jmj3351 at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay


>I have only been screwed once on eBay, with around 300 purchases completed.
> I sent cash to an auction in the UK, and had documentation showing it hit
> the shores of "jolly old". Regardless, seller said it never arrived. 
> Since,
> I have been able to enlist the aid of a Prince amongst Men, to assist with
> the eBay UK auctions that I deal with. I try to keep it as infrequent as
> possible, so as to not become a burden.
> The latest gripe I have had lately, is the push to use the eBay owned 
> PayPal
> (a-holes). Only one auction would not let me bid, since I didn't have an
> account. Most, I'll ask the seller if they will accept a money order prior
> to bidding. I am getting more and more positive response to that question
> every time I ask it. I can only assume that sellers are just as pissed at
> P.P. as I am.
>
> Brad
>
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:14 AM, <jmj3351 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I agree, Ebay sucks. For farB more reasons than you mention. Far too many
>> people have become dependent on them to conduct business only to be 
>> screwed
>> by
>> them. You are subject to their whim with little or no recourse.
>>
>> JMJ3351 Green 1500
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Riker" <davriker at nwi.net>
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 12:59:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay
>>
>> Is anyone else having problems with the search function on ebay? B I 
>> cannot
>> get
>> the pages to advance. B Have tried the little arrow, next, the page 
>> number,
>> and
>> go to, but the only thing that happens is I pop back up to the top of the
>> page
>> I was viewing.
>>
>> I have tried the "opt out" of the new ebay search,
>> I have tried clearing my cookies and page cache.
>> I have tried visiting their forums.
>> I have sent an email to ebay help.
>>
>> EBAY SUCKS.
>>
>> Dave R.
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  4 14:33:31 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:33:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Stress Management
In-Reply-To: <d18.470f1931.3756b2d8@aol.com>
References: <d18.470f1931.3756b2d8@aol.com>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W60D57CA1D8EB198B29D9BFC24B0@phx.gbl>

        *Just
        in case you are having a rough day, here is a stress management
        technique used traditionally in Sicily .The funny thing is that it
        really does work:


1.*
        Picture yourself lying on your belly on a warm rock that hangs out
over
        a crystal clear stream.

2.*Picture yourself with both your hands
        dangling in the cool running water

3.*Birds are sweetly singing
        in the cool mountain air.

4.* No one knows your secret
        place.

5.*You are in total seclusion from that hectic place
        called the world.

6.*The soothing sound of a gentle water fall
        fills the air with a cascade of serenity.

7.*The water is so
        crystal clear that you can
        easily make out the face of the person you are holding
        underwater.


There!! See? It really does work.


You're smiling already.




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From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun  4 14:38:36 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:38:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
Message-ID: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>

" good day sir: i have owned my bug-eye sprite for over 42 yrs now it is 
my first car and i have brought it with me everywhere i have been 
stationed during my 20 yrs in the navy i am now 58 yrs old and live near 
pensacola florida  i am originaly from massachusettes . i am 100% 
disabled and still look at my sprite every day in my garage.during my 42 
yrs of owning my first love i have restored it numerous times i consider 
her 75% finished   BUT my last duty station left me hanging here in fla. 
with no one to help me finish a few things ,as you know my wiring is 
awful and needs to be replaced and the generator has not worked in 30 
yrs or so i just run her on a charge. my QUESTION to you sir is that i 
have no one who can do this for me ,i admit iam scared to do the wiring 
harness under the dash and the generator /voltage regulator the question 
is WHO and WHERE can i get my beloved bug-eye repaired in this area i 
have tried all the clubs  but to no avail. ,all i want is to be able to 
drive her a few times before i leave this world. thank you for letting 
me discuss this with you !, you are my last hope sincerly jack dunn cpo 
usn ret "
 
Jack Dunn   <sandjac at bellsouth.net>

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 15:04:44 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:04:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 69 Brakes fixed.
In-Reply-To: <4A282E8A.8070505@comcast.net>
References: <4A2735A3.3060708@comcast.net>
	<BLU147-W5530072C348640D03163BCE4B0@phx.gbl>
	<4A282E8A.8070505@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906041404qb69076dle3cb82df28355520@mail.gmail.com>

> David Groundwater wrote:
>> what did you replace the shuttle valve with?  Mine is NG
>
> An empty space, it will never be a problem again.
> All it does is turn on a dash light to let you know your brakes failed.
> When the pedal hits the floor, you already know your brakes failed.

It does do a bit more than that. It separates the two circuits to keep
them independant of each other. In theory, if there is a hydraulic
failure in one corner of the car, that side loses pressure, the
shuttle slides over and lights the brake light on the dash, but the
other half of the circuit continues to function so you still have some
brakes, although braking capacity has been greatly reduced. With
Frank's new system, it is back to the single cylinder where a failure
at one corner loses ALL hydraulic braking... just like the tandem
tends to do in real life.
David L

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun  4 15:13:42 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 14:13:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay
Message-ID: <585751.66233.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I've bought and sold on ebay since Dec 1997.

Had good deals and a few no so good, both as a buyer and as a seller, but all-in-all my experiences have been more than good.

As a buyer, I use the same caution I would use when buying something in person. Just because it's on the internet doesn't mean I should not ask questions.

As a seller, I am fair in my descriptions, charge actual shipping and no handling fees. But I do require payment through PayPal. It's easier all around for me. I get my money right away and the transaction is done. I don't have to track payments, wait for checks to clear and so-on. I've required payment through PayPal before it was a requirement.

I will make exceptions and occasionally accept Money Orders, but honestly, it tedious. Some people mail payment within a few days, some don't "get around to it" for a week or so, and some just don't get around to it at all.

I wish the fees were lower but accept them as a cost to sell stuff I couldn't get such a good price anywhere else. If I were to sell it locally, I could use Craigslist which doesn't have as extensive a marketplace, or I could advertise in a paid newspaper which is very limiting.

I've completed a number of transactions and paid by cash but always with the knowledge it was at my own risk. I wouldn't recommend it and I would accept it as a seller.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT
61 Innocenti Spider
63 Sprite
73 Morris Mini Van
03 MINI Cooper S

--- On Thu, 6/4/09, Jim F. <jimndi at frontiernet.net> wrote:

From: Jim F. <jimndi at frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay
To: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>, jmj3351 at comcast.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 4:31 PM

Don't know,
I've bought tons of stuff from old grey norm on E-Bay and never had a problem.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
To: <jmj3351 at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay


> I have only been screwed once on eBay, with around 300 purchases completed.
> I sent cash to an auction in the UK, 

From heard at datatrontech.net  Thu Jun  4 15:17:48 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:17:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <07b901c9e559$e9593f00$1801010a@xp>

I would try to help but he is about 8 hours from me in Central Floriduh.
Being in Pensacola, maybe some south Georgia guys can respond.

Heard

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 4:39 PM
To: Spridgets; Jack Laird
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?

" good day sir: i have owned my bug-eye sprite for over 42 yrs now it is my
first car and i have brought it with me everywhere i have been stationed
during my 20 yrs in the navy i am now 58 yrs old and live near pensacola
florida  i am originaly from massachusettes . i am 100% disabled and still
look at my sprite every day in my garage.during my 42 yrs of owning my first
love i have restored it numerous times i consider 
her 75% finished   BUT my last duty station left me hanging here in fla. 
with no one to help me finish a few things ,as you know my wiring is awful
and needs to be replaced and the generator has not worked in 30 yrs or so i
just run her on a charge. my QUESTION to you sir is that i have no one who
can do this for me ,i admit iam scared to do the wiring harness under the
dash and the generator /voltage regulator the question is WHO and WHERE can
i get my beloved bug-eye repaired in this area i have tried all the clubs
but to no avail. ,all i want is to be able to drive her a few times before i
leave this world. thank you for letting me discuss this with you !, you are
my last hope sincerly jack dunn cpo usn ret "
 
Jack Dunn   <sandjac at bellsouth.net>
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From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 15:50:22 2009
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:50:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <58189EB3-DA64-48A6-BA37-1ED4141C6583@gmail.com>

Frank,

It's only a days work......

If you want to go fix it,  I'll swing by and pick you up.   ;)

Kev


On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Frank wrote:

> " good day sir: i have owned my bug-eye sprite for over 42 yrs now  
> it is
> my first car and i have brought it with me everywhere i have been
> stationed during my 20 yrs in the navy i am now 58 yrs old and live  
> near
> pensacola florida  i am originaly from massachusettes . i am 100%
> disabled and still look at my sprite every day in my garage.during  
> my 42
> yrs of owning my first love i have restored it numerous times i  
> consider
> her 75% finished   BUT my last duty station left me hanging here in  
> fla.
> with no one to help me finish a few things ,as you know my wiring is
> awful and needs to be replaced and the generator has not worked in 30
> yrs or so i just run her on a charge. my QUESTION to you sir is that i
> have no one who can do this for me ,i admit iam scared to do the  
> wiring
> harness under the dash and the generator /voltage regulator the  
> question
> is WHO and WHERE can i get my beloved bug-eye repaired in this area i
> have tried all the clubs  but to no avail. ,all i want is to be  
> able to
> drive her a few times before i leave this world. thank you for letting
> me discuss this with you !, you are my last hope sincerly jack dunn  
> cpo
> usn ret "
>
> Jack Dunn   <sandjac at bellsouth.net>
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From wolf.brent at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 15:56:39 2009
From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:56:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <62b83300906041456j44445283wf84fc8b721e7dc68@mail.gmail.com>

I am in a similar situation to Heard. I live in Central Florida. My case is
even worse, I am currently in Argentina and am not scheduled to return to
the US unitl mid August. I don't know how long I will be there when I do
return.  With all that said, if help is not recieved before then, I will
gladly schedule some time to go to Pensacola to try to help out.

Brent
71 Midget

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> " good day sir: i have owned my bug-eye sprite for over 42 yrs now it is
> my first car and i have brought it with me everywhere i have been
> stationed during my 20 yrs in the navy i am now 58 yrs old and live near
> pensacola florida  i am originaly from massachusettes . i am 100%
> disabled and still look at my sprite every day in my garage.during my 42
> yrs of owning my first love i have restored it numerous times i consider
> her 75% finished   BUT my last duty station left me hanging here in fla.
> with no one to help me finish a few things ,as you know my wiring is
> awful and needs to be replaced and the generator has not worked in 30
> yrs or so i just run her on a charge. my QUESTION to you sir is that i
> have no one who can do this for me ,i admit iam scared to do the wiring
> harness under the dash and the generator /voltage regulator the question
> is WHO and WHERE can i get my beloved bug-eye repaired in this area i
> have tried all the clubs  but to no avail. ,all i want is to be able to
> drive her a few times before i leave this world. thank you for letting
> me discuss this with you !, you are my last hope sincerly jack dunn cpo
> usn ret "
>
> Jack Dunn   <sandjac at bellsouth.net>
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Thu Jun  4 16:47:12 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 15:47:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG Metro
In-Reply-To: <2C853FF47EE64B0CB0F4FA2FB51FEA1F@dell330>
References: <D0040EF8AA9F40E09A4FE42E276CC70F@psych.washington.edu>
	<4A272EE3.4000802@comcast.net> 
	<2C853FF47EE64B0CB0F4FA2FB51FEA1F@dell330>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W230D1EAABF696EB2E8D855CA4B0@phx.gbl>

What we used to use was 100% antifreeze and a grease gun modified to pump it.
Simple, cheap and effective.
BillM

> From: grday at btinternet.com
> To: spritenut at comcast.net; richb at u.washington.edu
> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:52:21 +0100
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG Metro
>
> Just to expand a little on what Frank says I found the following recipes for
> a Hydrolastic fluid mix:
> http://www.hydragas.co.uk/technical.html
>
> Official Recipe:
>  49% alcohol,
> 49% distilled water,
> 1 % triethanolamine phosphate
> 1% sodium mercaptobenzthiazole,
>
> Australia. The firm of H.C. Sleigh (Golden Fleece) marketed a fluid to the
> following specification:
> Alcohol 50%,
> Water 24.45%,
> Bentmazol 0.05%,
> Ethylene Glycol 3%, (Bomar)?
> 0.50%, Union Carbide
> HB5100 22% (this is a viscosity improver).
>
> Carl Blom (Sweden):
> Distilled (de-ionized) water,  33%
> regular coolant glycol  33%
> pure alcohol is a good mixture.  33%
> 1/3 of each was fine for me as the original expensive fluid was rotting the
> metal can it came in ....
>
> Charles Dundas (New Zealand):
> My recipe (basically 50:50 green glycol coolant & methylated spirits)is from
> here:
> http://austin1800.homestead.com/Page11.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
> To: "Richard Ball" <richb at u.washington.edu>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 3:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG Metro
>
>
> > Richard Ball wrote:
> >> I met a guy at our local MG club meeting last night that has an right
> >> hand
> >> drive MG Metro .  He said it is one of three on the west coast,  and
> >> there in
> >> lies the problem.  Appearantly the Metro has a hydor-something-or-other
> >> suspention and his has sprung a leak.  Does anyone here know of a source
> >> of
> >> parts that he can contact?
> >>
> > A Mini guy near me has the Hydro Spastic machine to refill the system.
> > If it is hydrolastic, it is pressurized anti freeze but like 300 psi.
> > If he can make it to Jersey......
> >
> > --
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> > Toms River, NJ
> > My own Fleet of Sprites
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From cbaustin at verizon.net  Thu Jun  4 17:02:02 2009
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:02:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
	<62b83300906041456j44445283wf84fc8b721e7dc68@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C71B500A6FB04C4DBF440426077CC23E@universal1>

       " if help is not received before then, I will
gladly schedule some time to go to Pensacola"


  If that happens, you will certainly set the 'gold standard' for distance
traveled to an OSHIT!!

    Later,

                                                                        CB

From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 17:06:17 2009
From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:06:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Latest Mods to Larry's BE
Message-ID: <269967.91292.qm@web34201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Larry,
 
Talk about Car Porn. You'll need to post this to Ed's list.
 
Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.

http://www.ado13.com/cfh/cfh.htm
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 17:32:20 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:32:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <C71B500A6FB04C4DBF440426077CC23E@universal1>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
	<62b83300906041456j44445283wf84fc8b721e7dc68@mail.gmail.com>
	<C71B500A6FB04C4DBF440426077CC23E@universal1>
Message-ID: <402188520906041632p7f37a328q93b1a311c085de12@mail.gmail.com>

I will be in that area the weekend of the 13, 14 for my parents' 60th
wedding anniversary. Not in a position to do a whole lot of good,
however.
David L.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 18:05:55 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:05:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <402188520906041632p7f37a328q93b1a311c085de12@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
	<62b83300906041456j44445283wf84fc8b721e7dc68@mail.gmail.com>
	<C71B500A6FB04C4DBF440426077CC23E@universal1>
	<402188520906041632p7f37a328q93b1a311c085de12@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906041705p34786fdfneb536eb42f2d0de3@mail.gmail.com>

Maybe you could just stop by and appraise the situation. For all we know one
of us could be walking into a mechanical and electrical disaster...?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 6:32 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> I will be in that area the weekend of the 13, 14 for my parents' 60th
> wedding anniversary. Not in a position to do a whole lot of good,
> however.
> David L.

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 18:23:26 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:23:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <C71B500A6FB04C4DBF440426077CC23E@universal1>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
	<62b83300906041456j44445283wf84fc8b721e7dc68@mail.gmail.com>
	<C71B500A6FB04C4DBF440426077CC23E@universal1>
Message-ID: <881856.55416.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

He could really set a record and come to the NOSHIT in Seattle!  I hope we can get some support for this gentleman.  I appreciate and honor his service to our country.

Edward




________________________________
From: Charley Braum <cbaustin at verizon.net>
To: Brent Wolf <wolf.brent at gmail.com>
Cc: Spridgets List <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2009 4:02:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?

       " if help is not received before then, I will
gladly schedule some time to go to Pensacola"


  If that happens, you will certainly set the 'gold standard' for distance
traveled to an OSHIT!!

    Later,

                                                                        CB
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 19:22:52 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:22:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <881856.55416.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
	<62b83300906041456j44445283wf84fc8b721e7dc68@mail.gmail.com>
	<C71B500A6FB04C4DBF440426077CC23E@universal1>
	<881856.55416.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906041822w6e50bacet73da0fbb40dcecd1@mail.gmail.com>

I sent Jack an email offering to stop by on the 13th or 14th to take a
look at the scope of his project. Let you guys know what he says.
David L

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Jun  4 19:37:36 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:37:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <881856.55416.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
	<62b83300906041456j44445283wf84fc8b721e7dc68@mail.gmail.com>
	<C71B500A6FB04C4DBF440426077CC23E@universal1>
	<881856.55416.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A2876E0.1050907@frontiernet.net>

You could always split the difference and make it a 
_NEV_ada_E_lko_R_egionSHIT.

Kate
Former CPO, USNR


Edward Perez wrote:
> He could really set a record and come to the NOSHIT in Seattle!  I hope we can get some support for this gentleman.  I appreciate and honor his service to our country.

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun  4 20:24:59 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:24:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Auto Industry 101 - #1 Article by John Voelcker of
 Green Car Reports
In-Reply-To: <32c256b50906041551s3a4f6e92m3befcd08a7403fbe@mail.gmail.com>
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VERY 'interesting' read !!!!!

Ed
*****************************************************************
<<"Why Obama Could Be The Best Thing For Detroit Since Henry Ford"

http://www.greencarreports.com/blog/1020859_why-obama-could-be-the-best-thin
g-for-detroit-since-henry-ford

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From lindlaw at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  4 20:24:24 2009
From: lindlaw at yahoo.com (Ed Lindley)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:24:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] SMOG Problem-NLBC-94 Toyota Celica
Message-ID: <435093.37455.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

SMOG Problem-NLBC-94 Toyota Celica, 2.2 litre, 5 speed:

Took it into the Smog station in San Diego for it's 2 yr check. 2 Failures out of 18:

   1-timing was 4 BTDC and should be 10 (+/-3) BTDC>
   2-NOx:
     15 mph  708 allowed, 760 results.   FAIL
     25 mph  746 allowed, 740 results.   PASS

   I asked if correcting the timing would help and the tech said it might make the NOX even higher.

   Any thoughts as to causes and suggested repairs/adjustments (other than timing).  

   I am curious as to what RPMs were involved, but there is no indication.  I could be mistaken, but I believe at one time the results were RPM based, not speed based.  What gear was used? 

Ed in SD

From wolf.brent at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 20:28:57 2009
From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:28:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <4A2876E0.1050907@frontiernet.net>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
	<62b83300906041456j44445283wf84fc8b721e7dc68@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <62b83300906041928q1be957b8i75d2e8982057f3e5@mail.gmail.com>

There is such thing as a "Former CPO".


> Kate
> Former CPO, USNR

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Jun  4 20:51:16 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 21:51:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Auto Industry 101 - #1 Article by John Voelcker of
 Green Car Reports
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References: <32c256b50906041551s3a4f6e92m3befcd08a7403fbe@mail.gmail.com>
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No tinyurl?  :)


Chris
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Ts; 00 - Jensen-Cars Org; 00 - Healeys at Autox; 00 - Bugeye at Yahoo
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Auto Industry 101 - #1 Article by John Voelcker of
Green Car Reports

VERY 'interesting' read !!!!!

Ed
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From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jun  4 21:05:56 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:05:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] Auto Industry 101 - #1 Article by John
 Voelcker of Green Car Reports
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References: <32c256b50906041551s3a4f6e92m3befcd08a7403fbe@mail.gmail.com>
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(Oh boy!!)

HEY ED, ever hear of TINY URL?

anon

At 09:24 PM 6/4/2009, Ed's Shop wrote:
>VERY 'interesting' read !!!!!
>
>Ed
>*****************************************************************
><<"Why Obama Could Be The Best Thing For Detroit Since Henry Ford"
>
>http://www.greencarreports.com/blog/1020859_why-obama-could-be-the-best-thin
>g-for-detroit-since-henry-ford
>
>By John Voelcker
>greencarreports.com>>

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Jun  4 21:10:08 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:10:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Auto Industry 101 - #1 Article by John Voelcker of
 Green Car Reports
References: <32c256b50906041551s3a4f6e92m3befcd08a7403fbe@mail.gmail.com>
	<OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJMECADHAA.shop@justbrits.com> 
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No tinyurl?  :)


Chris
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Ts; 00 - Jensen-Cars Org; 00 - Healeys at Autox; 00 - Bugeye at Yahoo
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Auto Industry 101 - #1 Article by John Voelcker of
Green Car Reports

VERY 'interesting' read !!!!!

Ed
*****************************************************************
<<"Why Obama Could Be The Best Thing For Detroit Since Henry Ford"

http://www.greencarreports.com/blog/1020859_why-obama-could-be-the-best-thin
g-for-detroit-since-henry-ford

By John Voelcker
greencarreports.com>>

From davriker at nwi.net  Thu Jun  4 21:38:23 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 20:38:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
References: <998139.7240.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<908F24EE-DCB4-4FBD-9C45-250295E8923D@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <FE335CD2B14B43CB8FA01D59AB3FDA3B@MAIN>

Does it use the stock cam profile?  I thought the MGB crossflow heads 
required a custom cam.
David R.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
To: "Andy Webster" <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod


> They are making 50 of the heads. Plugs are not as bad to change as
> they look.
>
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:36 AM, Andy Webster wrote:
>
>> Larry,
>> that looks superb...
>> can i fire some questions?
>> * is this prototype likely to go into production?
>> * how long will a plug change take now?
>>
>> looks really really good with four barrel induction.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
>> Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
>> To: "Bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>, "Spridget" 
>> <spridgets at autox.team.net
>> >
>> Received: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 12:02 PM
>>
>> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
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From millerls at ado13.com  Fri Jun  5 00:21:20 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 23:21:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <FE335CD2B14B43CB8FA01D59AB3FDA3B@MAIN>
References: <998139.7240.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Any cam. Very different from the MGB head. I don't have the details yet.

On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:38 PM, David Riker wrote:

> Does it use the stock cam profile?  I thought the MGB crossflow  
> heads required a custom cam.
> David R.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
> To: "Andy Webster" <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
>
>
>> They are making 50 of the heads. Plugs are not as bad to change as
>> they look.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:36 AM, Andy Webster wrote:
>>
>>> Larry,
>>> that looks superb...
>>> can i fire some questions?
>>> * is this prototype likely to go into production?
>>> * how long will a plug change take now?
>>>
>>> looks really really good with four barrel induction.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
>>> Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
>>> To: "Bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>, "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net
>>> >
>>> Received: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 12:02 PM
>>>
>>> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  5 06:36:49 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:36:49 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] here I go again ...
Message-ID: <BAY112-W506FFEC5A6FCB66231FBAAB8480@phx.gbl>

I got an email from Moss today, that among other things, advertized 'bushed
rocker arms'.  They're selling tired products now?  Wouldn't they be better to
sell 'refurbished' or 'new' instead of 'bushed'?  ;)

And, I thought that this ( 'B oil pan ) was cool:
http://www.mossmotors.com/SiteGraphics/Pages/oilpan/mgboilpan.html?utm_source
=British173ld&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Emailer

Robert D.

m-w.com
Main Entry: 1bushed
...
3: tired, exhausted

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 07:01:49 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:01:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fr Jack's 50th
In-Reply-To: <4A232BE8.4090309@comcast.net>
References: <4A232BE8.4090309@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430906050601h56924d51l1d1a48ec1a9b7a29@mail.gmail.com>

Cool!I especially like "Priest School".
Lin

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Fr Jack called me this morning to come pick up and drive the Holy Sprite to
> his big shindig.
> He was all decked out as he was giving the 12:00 mass and it was raining
> and he was all flustered.
> So I went over, grabbed the Holy Sprite, came home washed it, dried it and
> the skies cleared.
> Something holy about that car ;)
> His mass was interesting as he joked about more bishops and monsignors were
> at this mass than were at the Pope's funeral.
> All his buddies got to see the Holy Sprite and he did mention "a bunch of
> crazy spridgeteers" for his funny looking car parked right out in front of
> the church doors.
> The car is running and stopping great since out Oshit session.
> He was a very happy priest today.  I am glad he invited me and Diane to his
> party.
> And I have never seen so many priests in one spot or so many up at the
> altar at the same time!
> You guys who met him should have seen the pictures of him when he graduated
> priest school!
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun  5 07:42:38 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:42:38 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay
In-Reply-To: <4A39777B26D647EABBD79983036E2730@MAINCOMPUTER>
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How much did that cost?  ;)



ED


 > ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Fornal" <tequila.brad at gmail.com>
>
> >I have only been screwed once on eBay,

...

> > Brad

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 07:48:49 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:48:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] last bit of side curtain seals
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Hi Mark,I haven't installed my seals yet ether. Can you tell me if you used
a plastic screwdriver and or soap? It sure looks like a difficult job. I
know Alan has done several perhaps he can chime in : )
Any tips would be appreciated.
Lin

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> The side curtain seal saga continues, if only for just a bit more. I've got
> the seals installed everywhere but along the front, angled edge. It looks
> like
> the seal should be bonded on, but I'm not one to go by the looks of things
> (especially since I had the seals backwards to start- D'Oh!). Can anyone
> clarify this since there seem to be at least two types sealing flaps along
> the
> edge or does is all get crammed into the groove?
>
>
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 07:52:51 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:52:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange  now..
In-Reply-To: <111024.32301.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <111024.32301.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430906050652w2b1f027at53725ffbbb1bad93@mail.gmail.com>

Glad you are all OK.Lin

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:06 AM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wasn't that what Malcolm B. (as opposed to X) called one of the original
> Bricklin colors?  ..."Safety Orange"
>
>  - David Booker
> '71 Midget Safety OEW
> Long Island
>
> --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dean Hedin <dlh2001 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I think maybe I'll paint all my cars orange now..
> To: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 9:18 PM
>
>
> Rustoleum calls it "Safety Orange"
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 07:56:22 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:56:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wide Tyres
In-Reply-To: <20090602143528.UXWUD.3710193.root@mp11>
References: <37dc82d40906021126o496ea88bw47885fa3ff0cb786@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090602143528.UXWUD.3710193.root@mp11>
Message-ID: <205cef430906050656p23226118wb663ec16da15b696@mail.gmail.com>

Good to know I was eyeing a nice (unfortunately expensive) wheel & tyre set
on eBay just the other day.Lin

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:35 PM, <bighealey at charter.net> wrote:

> careful.  Going big destroys handling,
>
> ---- Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > List,
> >
> > What is involved with getting wide tyres on my Bugeye as in the pic?
> >
> > Or, at least wider than the stock skinnys that I currently have?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Kirk
> >
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FRONT-BUMPER-FOR-AUSTIN-HEALEY-BUGEYE-FROGEYE-
> >
> SPRITE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a3Q7c66Q3a2Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c30
> >
> 1Q3a1Q7c293Q3a2Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4ce980f2caQQit
> >
> emZ330335056586QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQQsalenotsuppor
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 09:03:57 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:03:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Austin Camper on eBay UK 280351503368
Message-ID: <205cef430906050803t44f01a0and80f5ac35c8c2e59@mail.gmail.com>

Cool 1960 Austin Campervan by Bluebird
Caravans<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1960-Austin-Campervan-by-Bluebird-Caravans_W0QQitemZ280351503368QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item4146407408&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A7%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50>
.
Ebay UK280351503368
Just put the number in the eBay US site under find.
Lin

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun  5 09:48:45 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:48:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Austin Camper on eBay UK 280351503368
References: <205cef430906050803t44f01a0and80f5ac35c8c2e59@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55C05C3AE86B497FBCDA99674865A88B@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:03 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Austin Camper on eBay UK 280351503368


Cool 1960 Austin Campervan by Bluebird
Caravans<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1960-Austin-Campervan-by-Bluebird-Caravans_W0QQitemZ280351503368QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item4146407408&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A7%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50>
.
Ebay UK280351503368
Just put the number in the eBay US site under find.
Lin
_______________________________________________

That thing is just ugly enough to be cool.

I want it.


LAD 

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 10:06:39 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:06:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906050906t1690471bnb96c23451a1f776a@mail.gmail.com>

This list always keeps it interesting, especially if you receive the emails
under one email heading in a cluster.

What list can go from prayer for Dr. Bob. . . (which my wife and I will be
praying for a speedy recovery and thank God that it has not metastasized.)

And then the next thing I read is something about blue crab for crab cakes!


Kirk

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Fri Jun  5 10:42:08 2009
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 16:42:08 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] last bit of side curtain seals
Message-ID: <20090605.104208.24472.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com>

I used a metal screwdriver (I have a number of small ones), with a slight
radius stoned onto the edges so it doesn't dig in, and silicone spray. I
started at the sharp corner (lower front) and went around. After I finished a
side, I went back and evened it out since the act of getting it in kind of
pulls and stretches the seal so that it doesn't look like it fits. Maybe
Saturday night I'll have the gumption to try the front edge again.


Mark Haynes
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Jun  5 10:45:53 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 09:45:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906050906t1690471bnb96c23451a1f776a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906050906t1690471bnb96c23451a1f776a@mail.gmail.com>
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How true...
Aren't LBC's the greatest   ;->)

On 5 Jun 2009 at 9:06, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

>> What list can go from prayer for Dr. Bob. . . (which my wife and I
>> will be praying for a speedy recovery and thank God that it has not
>> metastasized.)
>> 
>> And then the next thing I read is something about blue crab for crab
>> cakes!


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 11:00:14 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 10:00:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Austin Camper on eBay UK 280351503368
Message-ID: <268830.69546.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's very cool, thanks for sharing Linda.  I would love to tour the country
in that if I were retired.  Unfortunately, I can't retire yet, so maybe
something else like this will come up in a few years.  Think it would have
enough oomph to pull a small trailer with a Spridget?  THAT would be a sight!
 
David Booker
Long Island


--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Austin Camper on eBay UK 280351503368
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 10:03 AM


Cool 1960 Austin Campervan by Bluebird
Caravans<http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1960-Austin-Campervan-by-Bluebird-Caravans_W0Q
QitemZ280351503368QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item4146407408&_trks
id=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A7%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C2
93%3A1%7C294%3A50>
.
Ebay UK280351503368
Just put the number in the eBay US site under find.
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From heard at datatrontech.net  Fri Jun  5 11:35:03 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:35:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
In-Reply-To: <4A28E951.23019.9BB05D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <37dc82d40906050906t1690471bnb96c23451a1f776a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A28E951.23019.9BB05D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <084d01c9e603$f5d30ef0$1801010a@xp>

Speaking of different topics...is this just a Floriduh thing or is this
common all over the country?

I rode by a subdivision the other day near my house called 'Live Oak
Estates'.  The entrance had your typical brick fence/gate like thing with
the name on it.  Looking down the main boulevard inside the entrance, the
road was lined with what else....newly planted palm trees.  Not an oak tree
in sight.

Just wondering... 



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 12:46 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible

How true...
Aren't LBC's the greatest   ;->)

On 5 Jun 2009 at 9:06, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

>> What list can go from prayer for Dr. Bob. . . (which my wife and I 
>> will be praying for a speedy recovery and thank God that it has not
>> metastasized.)
>> 
>> And then the next thing I read is something about blue crab for crab 
>> cakes!


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !!
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From bkitterer at me.com  Fri Jun  5 12:32:37 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:32:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] last bit of side curtain seals
In-Reply-To: <20090603.124518.2608.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090603.124518.2608.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <90D46765-0912-4C72-AD8C-D859E39C02CA@me.com>

List,

Here is a write up that  I did several years back on rebuilding side
curtains.  Hope it helps.


Outside rubber weather seals:
Except by some exceedingly painful time consuming process I do not
know how to get these seals in place as a single part.  Inspection of
our new seals showed that they were made of three parts and then
bonded together.  So with a very sharp blade we cut these bonds so we
had the three parts.  Once more using the WorkMate to hold the frames
look at the outside slots where they meet at the corners.  When the
frames are fabricated a weld bead blocks the track at the corners.
You want to clear these beads at the two lower corners.  The lower
front corner only has to be done in the vertical direction, the rear
corner in both the vertical and horizontal directions.  Do this using
jewelers files.  You may need to extend the T groove through the
outer edge of the frame, if so keep it a small as possible.  Install
the weather seal that goes on the top and rear of the frame first by
sliding it through the cleaned T groove at the bottom rear of the
frame.  We like to use Sil-Glyde Lubricating Compound, available at
auto supply stores, on the seals to make them easier to install. Next
install the front seal.  Use Crazy Glue to re-bond the top corner.
Crazy Glue is usually available at hobby stores, particularly those
with radio controlled models.  Finally install the bottom seal and
bond it to the front seal.  If your seals are like the ones we got the
bottom rear corner will not completely match but this is the best
place to have a gap in the seal. The replacement seals were made to
small or you would have to stretch them while doing the installation
which most likely would have broken the bonded seams anyway.



Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 3, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Mark Haynes wrote:

> The side curtain seal saga continues, if only for just a bit more.
> I've got
> the seals installed everywhere but along the front, angled edge. It
> looks like
> the seal should be bonded on, but I'm not one to go by the looks of
> things
> (especially since I had the seals backwards to start- D'Oh!). Can
> anyone
> clarify this since there seem to be at least two types sealing flaps
> along the
> edge or does is all get crammed into the groove?
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016
>
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Fri Jun  5 12:45:39 2009
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:45:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] last bit of side curtain seals
In-Reply-To: <20090603.124518.2608.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090603.124518.2608.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <D8F48AAA-76FE-45AE-A8E2-496900074848@mac.com>

List,

Here is a write up that  I did several years back on rebuilding side
curtains.  Hope it helps.


Outside rubber weather seals:
Except by some exceedingly painful time consuming process I do not
know how to get these seals in place as a single part.  Inspection of
our new seals showed that they were made of three parts and then
bonded together.  So with a very sharp blade we cut these bonds so we
had the three parts.  Once more using the WorkMate to hold the frames
look at the outside slots where they meet at the corners.  When the
frames are fabricated a weld bead blocks the track at the corners.
You want to clear these beads at the two lower corners.  The lower
front corner only has to be done in the vertical direction, the rear
corner in both the vertical and horizontal directions.  Do this using
jewelers files.  You may need to extend the T groove through the
outer edge of the frame, if so keep it a small as possible.  Install
the weather seal that goes on the top and rear of the frame first by
sliding it through the cleaned T groove at the bottom rear of the
frame.  We like to use Sil-Glyde Lubricating Compound, available at
auto supply stores, on the seals to make them easier to install. Next
install the front seal.  Use Crazy Glue to re-bond the top corner.
Crazy Glue is usually available at hobby stores, particularly those
with radio controlled models.  Finally install the bottom seal and
bond it to the front seal.  If your seals are like the ones we got the
bottom rear corner will not completely match but this is the best
place to have a gap in the seal. The replacement seals were made to
small or you would have to stretch them while doing the installation
which most likely would have broken the bonded seams anyway.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 3, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Mark Haynes wrote:

> The side curtain seal saga continues, if only for just a bit more.
> I've got
> the seals installed everywhere but along the front, angled edge. It
> looks like
> the seal should be bonded on, but I'm not one to go by the looks of
> things
> (especially since I had the seals backwards to start- D'Oh!). Can
> anyone
> clarify this since there seem to be at least two types sealing flaps
> along the
> edge or does is all get crammed into the groove?
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016
>
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri Jun  5 13:28:29 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:28:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a New Top
Message-ID: <d49b03130906051228x48d0965em4bd91b831421f9ac@mail.gmail.com>

My soft top was purchased from Little British Car Company about nine years
ago.  While the quality was excellent and it is still in very fine shape,
I've decided I need a new one.  The LB Car Co top never fit correctly.  The
sewn "peaks that fit over the front fold out bow are not in the correct
spot.  With the bows extended the top flops around loose in this area.
Since AABest is not available, where are you guys buying your tops these
days?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri Jun  5 13:39:13 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:39:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: FW: Providence Phoenix - "Best Male Vocalist" -
 Best Music Poll - Vote..
In-Reply-To: <0a3801c9e5e4$e736eb10$9a01a8c0@AdvancedTechnology.local>
References: <0a3801c9e5e4$e736eb10$9a01a8c0@AdvancedTechnology.local>
Message-ID: <d49b03130906051239u6c5ac81w44f841278d75de21@mail.gmail.com>

Got this email from my brother in Massachussetts today.  His stepson has
been nominated for male vocalist of the year in the Phoenix, a local music
venue in Rhode Island.  You might take a listen by clicking on the box to
the right of his name.  It will play more than one song  and if you got a
mind to you might vote for him.  I think he's pretty good by the way.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: James MacLean <jmac at advancedtechno.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:52 AM
Subject: FW: Providence Phoenix - "Best Male Vocalist" - Best Music Poll -
Vote..
To: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>


 Mike, If theres any way you could vote for my step son whos nominated for
male vocalist of the year in the Phoenix and pass this around Id be mighty
beholding. I think you might have heard him and he has songs on MySpace with
both bands (Mike G $ Associates and Young Rust). Hes actually pretty good.
Thanks.  Jim



*Jim MacLean*

*Advanced Technology, Inc*

*Sr. Technical Recruiter*

*877-334-7700 ext 239*


  ------------------------------

*From:* Jim MacLean [mailto:jmaclean4 at cox.net]
*Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 10:20 PM
*To:* james MacLean
*Subject:* Fw: Providence Phoenix - "Best Male Vocalist" - Best Music Poll -
Vote..





Jim MacLean
508-243-2277 cell

----- Original Message -----

*From:* Mike G <bendz2 at yahoo.com>

*To:* bendz2 at yahoo.com

*Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2009 1:39 PM

*Subject:* Providence Phoenix - "Best Male Vocalist" - Best Music Poll -
Vote..



Hey everyone...



More good news has come accross the wire for Mike Gendron of Mike G &
Associates!



I have been nominated for "Best Male Vocalist" in the 2009 Providence
Phoenix Best Music Poll !!



Folks.....I am up against some serious..SERIOUS competition.  It really
would mean a whole lot to me to have your vote.



The music scene in Providence has been evolving into something great over
the last couple years.  We need YOU to help make it grow!



Do so by voting today!  It'll take under a minute.  Here's all you have to
do (*please follow these steps carefully)*:



1)  Click this link:

http://thephoenix.com/BMP/Providence/vote/MaleVocalist/



2)  Click the box next to "Mike Gendron / Mike G & Associates"



3)  Click "submit".  The page will then refresh, and you now have a choice
to vote in other categories, if you want to.



4)  Click the grey box above the nominees that says "Cast Your Ballot"



5)  The page refreshes again, now showing you who you voted for.  Scroll
down to the bottom, and enter in your NAME and EMAIL.  This registers your
vote to count.  Then click "Cast Your Ballot".................and now,
You're done!!   Piece a' cake.



Thank you in advance for your time and your vote!



Love,



Mike Gendron

Mike G & Associates

www.myspace.com/mikegsolo


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From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 14:23:52 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:23:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
Message-ID: <50021.54249.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Heard <heard at datatrontech.net> wrote:
> I rode by a subdivision the other day near my house called
> 'Live Oak
> Estates'. 

I lived on Red Maple Place in Melbourne FL. Not a Red Maple in sight. We did
have an enormous live oak by the time we left.

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 14:24:16 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:24:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
Message-ID: <953858.87980.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, Heard <heard at datatrontech.net> wrote:
> I rode by a subdivision the other day near my house called
> 'Live Oak
> Estates'. 

I lived on Red Maple Place in Melbourne FL. Not a Red Maple in sight. We did have an enormous live oak by the time we left. 

Ron

From twobees at sprynet.com  Fri Jun  5 14:29:45 2009
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 16:29:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cryo-Treating Axles - Cost?
Message-ID: <000301c9e61c$5e77c4b0$6401a8c0@normoffice>

Sorry to bomb the lists.  But, I can't remember on which list someone asked
about the cost of cryo-treating rear axles.
 
I looked for my receipt.  But, couldn't find it.  So, I called the company
that did my Turner axles -- Evans Performance Products in Cumming, GA.
<http://www.evansperformance.com/> http://www.evansperformance.com/  Their
price is $30 per axle plus your cost of shipping.
 
I was quite satisfied with their work & turnaround time.
 
Norm Sippel
'59 Turner

From soavero at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 14:31:55 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:31:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Dr. Bob update
Message-ID: <836350.93936.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

All,
My brother was overwhelmed by all of the emails and good wishes he received earlier this week - thank you all.

He got some good news today - his bone scan came back clean, so there is no apparent metastasis. He spent nearly 3 hours with the oncologist yesterday at Sloan. There was some clarifying of his biopsy results, and it was acually worse than originally thought, so his future course of action is pretty clear. His prognosis is excellent, and he's still hoping to be at Blackhawk in 2 weeks and for many years to come.   

Thanks again to all - 
Ron

From jjkan5 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 14:38:33 2009
From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:38:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a New Top
Message-ID: <522837.49762.qm@web63307.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

I bought one from this outfit earlier this year. Installed it and drove the
Bugeye a few times with the top, but removed the top today because it is
finally top down weather in Ohio!!!
 
http://www.convertibletopguys.com/cgi-local/displaycat.cgi?cat=220#packages 

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
wrote:


From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a New Top
To: "Spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 3:28 PM


My soft top was purchased from Little British Car Company about nine years
ago.  While the quality was excellent and it is still in very fine shape,
I've decided I need a new one.  The LB Car Co top never fit correctly.  The
sewn "peaks that fit over the front fold out bow are not in the correct
spot.  With the bows extended the top flops around loose in this area.
Since AABest is not available, where are you guys buying your tops these
days?
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
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From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu  Fri Jun  5 14:58:46 2009
From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 13:58:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
References: <953858.87980.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E130BF2660F94154BFDFD3FDA0519EC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>

I live on Eel Pl.  Pass the wasabi.




>> I rode by a subdivision the other day near my house called
>> 'Live Oak
>> Estates'.
>
> I lived on Red Maple Place in Melbourne FL. Not a Red Maple in sight. We 
> did have an enormous live oak by the time we left.
>
> Ron
> _______________________________________________

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 15:14:39 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:14:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] engine bearings
Message-ID: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm in the process of ordering parts for rebuilding my engine and I have a question.  I'm planning on going .020 over.  Moss has a different part # for the rod bearings for .020 than stock.  Is there something I will have to do to my crankshaft to accommodate these?  I have a 1275.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun  5 15:18:35 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 17:18:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] here I go again ...
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W506FFEC5A6FCB66231FBAAB8480@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W506FFEC5A6FCB66231FBAAB8480@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A298BAB.5000801@comcast.net>

robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
> I got an email from Moss today, that among other things, advertized 'bushed
> rocker arms'.  They're selling tired products now?  
Now? They have been selling tired, dead, useless crap since 1988.
Bushed products from moss is nothing new. It's the norm.
File to fit, dead in the box, guaranteed for life or 5 miles what ever 
comes first.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun  5 16:18:26 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 17:18:26 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
References: <953858.87980.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<E130BF2660F94154BFDFD3FDA0519EC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
Message-ID: <16A2859FBCAD44B6811565EF44CDF644@Larry>

I live on Olive St.  The only olives I ever see are in a Martini.

Which reminds me, it's Friday, the work week is over....



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible


I live on Eel Pl.  Pass the wasabi.




>> I rode by a subdivision the other day near my house called
>> 'Live Oak
>> Estates'.
>
> I lived on Red Maple Place in Melbourne FL. Not a Red Maple in sight. We 
> did have an enormous live oak by the time we left.
>
> Ron

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Jun  5 16:36:43 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 15:36:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <C64EEC0B.17C7B%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

You mean something other than having it ground .020" under?
>  .020 than stock.  Is there something I will have to do to my crankshaft to
> accommodate these? 

From kevinv1275 at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 16:54:07 2009
From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:54:07 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Need a New Top
In-Reply-To: <d49b03130906051228x48d0965em4bd91b831421f9ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d49b03130906051228x48d0965em4bd91b831421f9ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <61011329-31D8-452A-AA1F-9FF25EC94511@gmail.com>

Mike,

I have purchased 6 or 7 tops from this company in the past 3 years  
and was very pleased.  I recently got a current price quote of $199  
for a top to fit a 74 Midget.

Merchant : Vic'S Upholstery Supply, Inc., Dba Topsonline.Com

vicsauto at pacbell.net

We appreciate the opportunity to serve you. If you have any further
questions please call us at 888-803-8505 between the hours of 9AM to 6PM
PST weekdays.



Kevin


On Jun 5, 2009, at 3:28 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote:
>
> Since AABest is not available, where are you guys buying your tops  
> these
> days?

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Fri Jun  5 17:01:02 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 16:01:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] engine bearings
In-Reply-To: <003501c9e630$39f44be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
References: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<003501c9e630$39f44be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
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That's what I needed to know.  You saw the crank, so it looks like I should get off with only polishing it.  So the .020 bearings are only if I need to grind the crank.  If I only polish it, I'll get the standard bearings.  I'll see what the shop says.  Thanks.




________________________________
From: Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
To: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>; Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 3:51:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine bearings

Hi Edward,

Rod bearing size is totally unrelated to the cylinder bore size!  But if the
crankshaft has been turned, you need to use the correct size bearing
inserts, mains and rods.  Thrust washers seldom need replacing, but be sure
to measure the end play.  The machine shop will tell you what's needed.
Don't order rods and mains until you know the size of the crank after
turning, if it needs it.

OTOH,  you need to have the pistons on hand at the machine shop prior to
boring the block. Check with your machinest what size to order prior to his
boring the block.  The piston sizes typically vary tiny amounts and the shop
usually compensates for that in finishing off the bore.

When he does the cyl head, he may ask for you to get some seats for some
exhaust ports as well as some or all the valves.  Valve seats typically
recess a lot with age on these heads.  Many had no seats other than the
casting of the head.  You should ask him what valves he wants replaced.
Should also likely replace all the valve guides and which seals he wants to
use.  Steel guides are fine. That's what the originals were and they lasted
50 years.

The valve seat area between #2 and #3 bores in the head can sometimes be
problematic because of the very small amount of head material area between
the two.

Good machine shops can work around these problems usually just fine.

Later, Paul A

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: <Spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:14 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] engine bearings


> I'm in the process of ordering parts for rebuilding my engine and I have a
question.  I'm planning on going .020 over.  Moss has a different part # for
the rod bearings for .020 than stock.  Is there something I will have to do
to my crankshaft to accommodate these?  I have a 1275.
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri Jun  5 17:23:41 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 16:23:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
In-Reply-To: <16A2859FBCAD44B6811565EF44CDF644@Larry>
References: <953858.87980.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<E130BF2660F94154BFDFD3FDA0519EC7@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu>
	<16A2859FBCAD44B6811565EF44CDF644@Larry>
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I live on Annapolis Circle.  Not one Naval Cadet in sight...
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

> I live on Olive St.  The only olives I ever see are in a Martini.
>
> Which reminds me, it's Friday, the work week is over....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
>
>
> I live on Eel Pl.  Pass the wasabi.
>
>
>
>
> >> I rode by a subdivision the other day near my house called
> >> 'Live Oak
> >> Estates'.
> >
> > I lived on Red Maple Place in Melbourne FL. Not a Red Maple in sight. We
> > did have an enormous live oak by the time we left.
> >
> > Ron
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From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun  5 20:05:49 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 22:05:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] engine bearings
References: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com><003501c9e630$39f44be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<260798.28367.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <895D977641184D9EAF010AA524F8F499@blackbox2>

Yes, have the shop measure the crank first.

It is entirely possible that some time long ago, in a galaxy far..far away, that your crank was already ground.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine bearings


> That's what I needed to know.  You saw the crank, so it looks like I should get off with only polishing it.  So the .020 bearings 
> are only if I need to grind the crank.  If I only polish it, I'll get the standard bearings.  I'll see what the shop says. 
> Thanks.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun  5 21:14:01 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 23:14:01 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Axle thoughts...
References: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com><003501c9e630$39f44be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8><260798.28367.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<895D977641184D9EAF010AA524F8F499@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <251385AEB17F4D24B546577D10E870FF@blackbox2>

It has been mentioned on the list previously, and is common knowledge, that the wire wheel rear axle housing is
one inch narrower that a drum brake axle housing.

The situation is such that if you upgrade, say, a Bugeye to wire wheels that the axles will be 1/2 inch shorter and you
will lose this amount of engagment of the splines into the differential.

One way around this problem has been to take a later wire wheel axle and weld all the proper fittings
to make it a quarter eliptic axle to fit into the Bugeye.

Another option mentioned, was to press the axles out of the hub a little and then weld the axle to the hub.

Others have suggested to just live with the 1/2"  less engagement.

I was wondering why nobody has made an aftermarket axle that just a 1/2 inch longer to facilitate
this conversion.

4 ft of 1 inch diam 4340 is only $56.  Machining cost on top of that is what? $100 bucks maybe? 

Also has anybody out there ever pressed off the the axle from the wire hub?

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 04:40:43 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 06:40:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Austin Camper on eBay UK 280351503368
In-Reply-To: <55C05C3AE86B497FBCDA99674865A88B@Larry>
References: <205cef430906050803t44f01a0and80f5ac35c8c2e59@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <205cef430906060340k5a4db697x644bda3e54a80f91@mail.gmail.com>

Larry,
Yes ugly enough to be cool : )
Lin

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Linda Grunthaner" <grunthaner at gmail.com>
> To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:03 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Austin Camper on eBay UK 280351503368
>
>
> Cool 1960 Austin Campervan by Bluebird
> Caravans<
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1960-Austin-Campervan-by-Bluebird-Caravans_W0QQitemZ280351503368QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item4146407408&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A7%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
> >
> .
> Ebay UK280351503368
> Just put the number in the eBay US site under find.
> Lin
> _______________________________________________
>
> That thing is just ugly enough to be cool.
>
> I want it.
>
>
> LAD

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 05:41:37 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 07:41:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
In-Reply-To: <705EF738-6128-499E-B880-76C8E9A61C33@ado13.com>
References: <998139.7240.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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	<FE335CD2B14B43CB8FA01D59AB3FDA3B@MAIN>
	<705EF738-6128-499E-B880-76C8E9A61C33@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430906060441s25d9c7c8vd7c3e8baa5181eb9@mail.gmail.com>

OK I haven't been following this project so please fill me in. I see the
carbs are on the opposite side as our Sprites so is it an A Series motor
(looks like one) is it just a different valve head if so what is it and BTW
nice carbs what kind are they? Looks sweet how fast does she top out at?
Lin

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Larry Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:

> Any cam. Very different from the MGB head. I don't have the details yet.
>
> On Jun 4, 2009, at 8:38 PM, David Riker wrote:
>
>  Does it use the stock cam profile?  I thought the MGB crossflow heads
>> required a custom cam.
>> David R.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Miller" <millerls at ado13.com>
>> To: "Andy Webster" <a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au>
>> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
>>
>>
>>  They are making 50 of the heads. Plugs are not as bad to change as
>>> they look.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:36 AM, Andy Webster wrote:
>>>
>>>  Larry,
>>>> that looks superb...
>>>> can i fire some questions?
>>>> * is this prototype likely to go into production?
>>>> * how long will a plug change take now?
>>>>
>>>> looks really really good with four barrel induction.
>>>>
>>>> Andy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Thu, 4/6/09, Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Larry & Sandi Miller <millerls at ado13.com>
>>>> Subject: [Spridgets] BUGIII's Latest Mod
>>>> To: "Bugeye" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>, "Spridget" <
>>>> spridgets at autox.team.net
>>>> >
>>>> Received: Thursday, 4 June, 2009, 12:02 PM
>>>>
>>>> Check out the latest modification to my red Bugeye.
>>>>
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From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Sat Jun  6 05:44:01 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 07:44:01 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] engine bearings
Message-ID: <12814492.1244288641993.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

yeah , first off measure the crank.  and if it looks good from the machinist point of view then test assemble with the std bearings (if it's still an unturned casting) and use plastigage and check bearing clearances to see if it's going to assemble right and provide good oil pressure.   if not?  then turning to the next under size bearing would be the so called "fix" for proper tolerances.   but still check assembled tolerances to be certain the machinist did the job right rather than assembling it and asssssume it was done right only to find out the hard way it was not!

chuck.

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Sat Jun  6 05:51:47 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 07:51:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
Message-ID: <18843224.1244289107283.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

we live on "rauschs" road not one sign of any rausch racing enterprises cars or parts!  go figure....but we do have a bunch of loud saab 2 stroke race cars.....and one obnoxious bugeye ;)  possibly a second in the works......hmmm.

chuck.

-----Original Message-----
>From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
>Sent: Jun 5, 2009 7:23 PM
>To: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
>Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
>
>I live on Annapolis Circle.  Not one Naval Cadet in sight...
>Mike MacLean
>60 Sprite
>56 BN2
>
>On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
>
>> I live on Olive St.  The only olives I ever see are in a Martini.
>>
>> Which reminds me, it's Friday, the work week is over....
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
>> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
>>
>>
>> I live on Eel Pl.  Pass the wasabi.

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Sat Jun  6 05:54:49 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 07:54:49 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] here I go again ...
Message-ID: <11897875.1244289289531.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

now frank , tell 'em really how ya feel?  *grin*

chuck.
starting to think stuff marked made in mexico & tiwan are superior to chinese stuff?  and what happened to stuff made in USA?   aw frank musta bought all it up!  :)

-----Original Message-----
>From: Frank <spritenut at comcast.net>
>Sent: Jun 5, 2009 5:18 PM
>To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
>Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] here I go again ...
>
>robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
>> I got an email from Moss today, that among other things, advertized 'bushed
>> rocker arms'.  They're selling tired products now?  
>Now? They have been selling tired, dead, useless crap since 1988.
>Bushed products from moss is nothing new. It's the norm.
>File to fit, dead in the box, guaranteed for life or 5 miles what ever 
>comes first.

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sat Jun  6 08:47:59 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 07:47:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Axle thoughts...
In-Reply-To: <251385AEB17F4D24B546577D10E870FF@blackbox2>
References: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com><003501c9e630$39f44be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8><260798.28367.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<895D977641184D9EAF010AA524F8F499@blackbox2> 
	<251385AEB17F4D24B546577D10E870FF@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W1C411DAB0C836C802CB91CA490@phx.gbl>

Think about this-
I have never heard of an axle stripping out the splines to the differential,
the common mode of failure is for the axle to break just as it comes out of
the spline. The spline interface is not the weak point, the axle is. What does
it matter if there is 1/2" less axle engaged if that area never wears-out?
Just go with the common wire axle.
BillM

> From: dlh2001 at comcast.net
> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 23:14:01 -0400
> Subject: [Spridgets] Axle thoughts...
>
> It has been mentioned on the list previously, and is common knowledge, that
the wire wheel rear axle housing is
> one inch narrower that a drum brake axle housing.
>
> The situation is such that if you upgrade, say, a Bugeye to wire wheels that
the axles will be 1/2 inch shorter and you
> will lose this amount of engagment of the splines into the differential.
>
> One way around this problem has been to take a later wire wheel axle and
weld all the proper fittings
> to make it a quarter eliptic axle to fit into the Bugeye.
>
> Another option mentioned, was to press the axles out of the hub a little and
then weld the axle to the hub.
>
> Others have suggested to just live with the 1/2"  less engagement.
>
> I was wondering why nobody has made an aftermarket axle that just a 1/2 inch
longer to facilitate
> this conversion.
>
> 4 ft of 1 inch diam 4340 is only $56.  Machining cost on top of that is
what? $100 bucks maybe?
>
> Also has anybody out there ever pressed off the the axle from the wire hub?
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jun  6 09:22:22 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 08:22:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Axle thoughts...
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W1C411DAB0C836C802CB91CA490@phx.gbl>
References: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com><003501c9e630$39f44be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8><260798.28367.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com><895D977641184D9EAF010AA524F8F499@blackbox2>
	<251385AEB17F4D24B546577D10E870FF@blackbox2>
	<BLU107-W1C411DAB0C836C802CB91CA490@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CA9EB5631BDC4BA990AA265AC2565696@spider>

What he said. ...bill in oregon
=====================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Masquelier
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 7:48 AM
To: dlh2001 at comcast.net; spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Axle thoughts...

Think about this-
I have never heard of an axle stripping out the splines to the differential,
the common mode of failure is for the axle to break just as it comes out of
the spline. The spline interface is not the weak point, the axle is. What
does
it matter if there is 1/2" less axle engaged if that area never wears-out?
Just go with the common wire axle.
BillM

From bkitterer at me.com  Sat Jun  6 10:08:45 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:08:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] last bit of side curtain seals
In-Reply-To: <205cef430906060347h6909bdc8qbacf492e694bc8ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090603.124518.2608.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com>
	<90D46765-0912-4C72-AD8C-D859E39C02CA@me.com>
	<205cef430906060347h6909bdc8qbacf492e694bc8ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63328B3C-F678-45F5-9549-122C1E47B45D@me.com>

Linda,

I did mine in 1997 an they are still together an working just great.   
The Crazy Glue is not the same as Super Glue.  The last time I looked  
for it there were about four different formulas, in '97 there was only  
one.  But at least one version will re-bond rubber.  The RC Airplane  
and car folks use this product because it works so well.  My seals  
came from Moss an could have been better but as I said they had bonded  
three of the corners so I figured I could redo them.

I would love to know how the factory installed the seals.  Based on  
the other rubber in the car I am inclined to think that it was very  
soft.  I doubt that it was machine installed so with some elasticity a  
gorilla, with some jigs,  might be able to pull it around the frame.

Anyway good luck with what ever method you use.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 6, 2009, at 3:47 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:

> There is no way I'll cut my expensive seals to install them I will  
> struggle with other method but thanks anyway.

From bkitterer at me.com  Sat Jun  6 10:22:40 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:22:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Axle thoughts...
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W1C411DAB0C836C802CB91CA490@phx.gbl>
References: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<003501c9e630$39f44be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<260798.28367.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<895D977641184D9EAF010AA524F8F499@blackbox2>
	<251385AEB17F4D24B546577D10E870FF@blackbox2>
	<BLU107-W1C411DAB0C836C802CB91CA490@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <8537B570-FDE9-430C-A7F5-064827531D4A@me.com>

Early axles broke at the end of the splines, out side the  
differential,  but this was the result of radial fractures originating  
down the face of the splines to the center of the axle.  Both the  
metallurgy and the machining have changed since then an other than  
racers does anyone break an axle these days?

Knock on wood,  I have not lost an axle since around 1965.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 6, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Bill Masquelier wrote:

> I have never heard of an axle stripping out the splines to the  
> differential,
> the common mode of failure is for the axle to break just as it comes  
> out of
> the spline. The spline interface is not the weak point, the axle is.  
> What does
> it matter if there is 1/2" less axle engaged if that area never  
> wears-out?

From bkitterer at mac.com  Sat Jun  6 10:24:23 2009
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:24:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Axle thoughts...
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W1C411DAB0C836C802CB91CA490@phx.gbl>
References: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<003501c9e630$39f44be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8>
	<260798.28367.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<895D977641184D9EAF010AA524F8F499@blackbox2>
	<251385AEB17F4D24B546577D10E870FF@blackbox2>
	<BLU107-W1C411DAB0C836C802CB91CA490@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <70B8090C-EE4C-4EAD-8B34-54CD6C058D98@mac.com>

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 6, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Bill Masquelier wrote:

> The spline interface is not the weak point, the axle is.

Early axles broke at the end of the splines, out side the  
differential,  but this was the result of radial fractures originating  
down the face of the splines to the center of the axle.  Both the  
metallurgy and the machining have changed since then an other than  
racers does anyone break an axle these days?

Knock on wood,  I have not lost an axle since around 1965.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 10:35:37 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 12:35:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] last bit of side curtain seals
In-Reply-To: <63328B3C-F678-45F5-9549-122C1E47B45D@me.com>
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Bob,
Wow 12 years and they are still sticking (glue) I'm impressed. I will give
it a try if all else fails.
But can I use Crazy Glue now or is the formula different than 1997?
Lin

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:

> Linda,
>
> I did mine in 1997 an they are still together an working just great.  The
> Crazy Glue is not the same as Super Glue.  The last time I looked for it
> there were about four different formulas, in '97 there was only one.  But at
> least one version will re-bond rubber.  The RC Airplane and car folks use
> this product because it works so well.  My seals came from Moss an could
> have been better but as I said they had bonded three of the corners so I
> figured I could redo them.
>
> I would love to know how the factory installed the seals.  Based on the
> other rubber in the car I am inclined to think that it was very soft.  I
> doubt that it was machine installed so with some elasticity a gorilla, with
> some jigs,  might be able to pull it around the frame.
>
> Anyway good luck with what ever method you use.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
> On Jun 6, 2009, at 3:47 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>
>  There is no way I'll cut my expensive seals to install them I will
>> struggle with other method but thanks anyway.
>>
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From franks97 at verizon.net  Sat Jun  6 14:03:12 2009
From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:03:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rose Cup Races with Vintage Feature
Message-ID: <C6501990.76DD%franks97@verizon.net>

Rose Cup Races - A Portland Rose Festival Event

 In 1909 the Wemme Trophy Race took place as part of the 3rd Annual Rose
Festival. To commemorate this illustrious 100 year anniversary the Rose Cup
Races and trophy sponsor AAA of Oregon/Idaho bring back the Wemme Trophy for
Saturday, June 13th's Vintage Race. Don't miss the fun.

Here is a link to the original 1909 results:

<http://www.motorsport.com/stats/champ/data/ch190903.pdf>

The grid is almost full so go to <http://oregonscca.com> to register now...

Looks like they had a little rain on the Rose Parade today so maybe we9ll
get clear skies for the races next weekend.

--
David Franks
franks97 at verizon.net
67 AH Sprite #82 Blue

From franks97 at verizon.net  Sat Jun  6 14:10:44 2009
From: franks97 at verizon.net (Franks)
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:10:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wemme Cup History and More Rose Cup Info
Message-ID: <C6501B54.76E3%franks97@verizon.net>

In June of 1909, the very first national championship auto race in the
United States was held on public roads between Portland and Gresham.
On June 12,1909, an automobile race was organized by the Portland Auto
Club and sanctioned by AAA. The race was a prominent feature of the
Portland Rose Festival, then in its third year.

A wealthy Portland businessman named E. Henry Wemme sponsored the
race. Wemme had imported the city9s first automobile, a Stanley
Steamer, in 1899.  Later, he would own the city9s first Oldsmobile,
the first Reo, and the first Pierce-Arrow. The race was called the
Wemme Trophy in his honor.

The race track ran east on Division St. to 223rd St. northbound, then
west on Stark St. and south on 96th Ave., which is now a frontage road
for I-205. The winning average speed was 58.792 MPH, which would be a
pretty fast trip on those roads even today!

A total of 30,000 spectators turned out around the course to see the
race, with track security provided by 200 members of the Oregon
National Guard.  Of the fourteen entrants, ten finished the race.
Amazingly, only one car crashed - an Auburn driven by Harry Cohen.

The race winner was 24 year old Bert Dingley, driving his Keats Auto
Company Chalmers-Detroit 40.  Reports from the race said that Dingley
waved at the crowd each time he came by the stands. Victory here in
Portland helped Dingley claim the first ever AAA national driving
championship, and he was among the first class of drivers inducted
into the Automobile Racing Hall of Fame in 1966.

To celebrate the centennial of that first Rose Festival auto race,
we're bringing back the Wemme Trophy as part of the 49th annual Rose
Cup races presented by Temp-Control Mechanical, and AAA Oregon/Idaho
is once again the Wemme Trophy sponsor.

Starting this year, the Wemme trophy will be perpetual, recognizing
100 years (and counting) of Rose Festival  racing, and it will be
awarded to a driver from the SCCA Vintage race each year at the Rose
Cup. As the Vintage grid is not a race for position, the recipient of
the trophy will be selected by the Rose Cup Auto Race Committee each
year.

The trophy winner will be decided based on Saturday9s race, and the
trophy will be awarded at the end of the day at the Rose Cup Cruise-
In, where hundreds of classic car enthusiasts will cheer the deserving
driver.

Then on Sunday, the second Vintage race of the weekend will be
dedicated to honor the memory of Sam Egli. Sam was a respected race
driver and an SCCA racing official. His beautiful red Porsche 356
coupe will be driven on a parade lap just prior to Sunday9s race,
while the SCCA flagging and communications workers wave every flag
they9ve got to show their admiration and affection for their departed
Friend.

The vintage group has two sessions on Friday and Saturday with a final Race
on Sunday.

<http://oregonscca.com>

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  6 14:38:27 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 13:38:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II July 18
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References: <103154.66390.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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So far, we have my car (which should be enough to keep us all busy), Alan is coming from Vancouver with his Midget, BillM, Rich Ball, Mike Shurtz with a 60 AH Sprite might come by, Paul A, Bill L is tentative and might bring his son, and I believe Phil Jones will be here too.  Mike B, did I see you confirm?  Please let me know if I've missed anyone, or if you want to come by.  I would also like to get an idea of what we will be working on.  So, if you are bringing a car, please let me/us know what you would like to get done on it.  As for mine, I'm hoping to get my engine in an running.  I'll whip up some BBQ pork sandwiches (to keep Paul A happy) and have some beer and water available.  Please feel free to bring whatever you would like to drink or snack on.  

Thanks, guys.  See you on the 18th.




________________________________
From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 6:24:30 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II July 18

Making the official announcement for NOSHIT II at my place in Snohomish, WA.  I am located about 40 mins NE of Seattle, and 5 miles S of Everett.  I have a huge, level, driveway that can accomodate several cars easily.  Plenty of tools (but bring what you think you'll need).  As I get responses, I'll put together a more concrete plan.  I will be hoping to get my engine assembled and installed (or a loaner put in).  Either way, I want it driveable before summer ends!  All are welcome.
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun  6 15:09:53 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 16:09:53 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Last Call For Contest Entries - Midget 50th
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906061409y4c42f2acg4538b6beb6467caf@mail.gmail.com>

All,

This is a last call for entries to the Logo & Poster Contests for the Midget
50th in 2011. Entry instructions can be found on the Sprite-Midget Club USA
website:  www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org.  The entry deadline is 10:00 pm CDT,
Monday, June 8th, 2009 and judging will begin the next day on Tuesday, June
9th. A panel of 16 judges from all across the US will make the final
selection. The prize is all registration fees for the Midget 50th in Elkhart
Lake, WI, June 20-24, 2011. If you win and cannot attend the event, there
are people waiting to buy your prize from you dollar for dollar.
-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA
www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 08:42:23 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:42:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fitting bugeye grille
Message-ID: <DEE11457-DF28-4348-90D3-F3C136B1C559@verizon.net>

The original bugeye grille had a stud top dead center just below the  
bonnet badge.  When doing the metal work on my bonnet the shop welded  
up the hole.

My options are to cut off the stud which I really don't want to do or  
drill open the hole.

Will I be able to drill thru the weld?  If so how do I get a pilot  
hole in there to locate the hole?  I really don't want to mess up a  
beautiful paint job.

Thanks.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From bpazur at excel.net  Sun Jun  7 10:34:39 2009
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:34:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Axle thoughts...
References: <330247.64252.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com><003501c9e630$39f44be0$f675fea9@p0k7l8><260798.28367.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com><895D977641184D9EAF010AA524F8F499@blackbox2><251385AEB17F4D24B546577D10E870FF@blackbox2><BLU107-W1C411DAB0C836C802CB91CA490@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <000501c9e78d$db2a7e90$83e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

I never broke an axle on my race Spridgets, but I broke one on my street
Bug, which I drive pretty gently. It broke at the end of the splines, and I
was able to pop the broken end out very easily. I now have a later half
shaft installed on that end.

Bud Pazur


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at me.com>
To: "spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Axle thoughts...


> Early axles broke at the end of the splines, out side the
> differential,  but this was the result of radial fractures originating
> down the face of the splines to the center of the axle.  Both the
> metallurgy and the machining have changed since then an other than
> racers does anyone break an axle these days?
>
> Knock on wood,  I have not lost an axle since around 1965.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
> On Jun 6, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Bill Masquelier wrote:
>
> > I have never heard of an axle stripping out the splines to the
> > differential,
> > the common mode of failure is for the axle to break just as it comes
> > out of
> > the spline. The spline interface is not the weak point, the axle is.
> > What does
> > it matter if there is 1/2" less axle engaged if that area never
> > wears-out?
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From bpazur at excel.net  Sun Jun  7 10:41:41 2009
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:41:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
References: <18843224.1244289107283.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <000b01c9e78e$d8659cc0$83e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

I live on "County Road N" (Wisconsinites are still practicing their
letters - right, Flounder?). But I named my land "Daisy Acres" because of my
cat Daisy (she was all white with green eyes) and the fact that I have a
huge field of daisies pop up at this time every year.

Bud Pazur


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charles christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>; "LarryDaniels"
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible


> we live on "rauschs" road not one sign of any rausch racing enterprises
cars or parts!  go figure....but we do have a bunch of loud saab 2 stroke
race cars.....and one obnoxious bugeye ;)  possibly a second in the
works......hmmm.
>
> chuck.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
> >Sent: Jun 5, 2009 7:23 PM
> >To: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> >Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
> >
> >I live on Annapolis Circle.  Not one Naval Cadet in sight...
> >Mike MacLean
> >60 Sprite
> >56 BN2
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> >
> >> I live on Olive St.  The only olives I ever see are in a Martini.
> >>
> >> Which reminds me, it's Friday, the work week is over....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
> >> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:58 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
> >>
> >>
> >> I live on Eel Pl.  Pass the wasabi.
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 10:21:15 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:21:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] fitting bugeye grille
In-Reply-To: <DEE11457-DF28-4348-90D3-F3C136B1C559@verizon.net>
References: <DEE11457-DF28-4348-90D3-F3C136B1C559@verizon.net>
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On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

The original bugeye grille had a stud top dead center just below the bonnet
badge.  When doing the metal work on my bonnet the shop welded up the hole.
Will I be able to drill thru the weld?  If so how do I get a pilot hole in
there to locate the hole?  I really don't want to mess up a beautiful paint
job.

Take it back to the shop and tell them to drill it out. They filled it...
They should make it right and if they mess up the paint, it is on them to
fix it.


-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  7 10:41:45 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:41:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
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I wanna move to Olive St!  I live on 65th, aint no one under 65........except me!




________________________________
From: Bud Pazur <bpazur at excel.net>
To: charles christ <cfchrist at earthlink.net>; "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>; LarryDaniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2009 9:41:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible

I live on "County Road N" (Wisconsinites are still practicing their
letters - right, Flounder?). But I named my land "Daisy Acres" because of my
cat Daisy (she was all white with green eyes) and the fact that I have a
huge field of daisies pop up at this time every year.

Bud Pazur


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "charles christ" <cfchrist at earthlink.net>
To: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>; "LarryDaniels"
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible


> we live on "rauschs" road not one sign of any rausch racing enterprises
cars or parts!  go figure....but we do have a bunch of loud saab 2 stroke
race cars.....and one obnoxious bugeye ;)  possibly a second in the
works......hmmm.
>
> chuck.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" <rrengineer at dslextreme.com>
> >Sent: Jun 5, 2009 7:23 PM
> >To: Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
> >Cc: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
> >
> >I live on Annapolis Circle.  Not one Naval Cadet in sight...
> >Mike MacLean
> >60 Sprite
> >56 BN2
> >
> >On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Larry Daniels
<ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> >
> >> I live on Olive St.  The only olives I ever see are in a Martini.
> >>
> >> Which reminds me, it's Friday, the work week is over....
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Glen Byrns" <grbyrns at ucdavis.edu>
> >> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 3:58 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
> >>
> >>
> >> I live on Eel Pl.  Pass the wasabi.
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 11:30:33 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 10:30:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
In-Reply-To: <316311.2909.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <18843224.1244289107283.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>,
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The streets in my subdivision are named after big mountains - and 
it's pretty flat around here.
We got streets name after trees -- and this is the desert...
Across the main drag they're named after Army Generals and no army 
base!.
We have a Northgate, Southgate, Eastgate and Westgate subdivisions -- 
all without gates!!
The irrelevance goes on and on...
But there is one exception ---  Rattlesnake Ridge really has got 
rattlesnakes...!!

On 7 Jun 2009 at 9:41, Edward Perez wrote:
>> I wanna move to Olive St!  I live on 65th, aint noone under
>> 65........except me!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sun Jun  7 12:08:03 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:08:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] fitting bugeye grille
In-Reply-To: <DEE11457-DF28-4348-90D3-F3C136B1C559@verizon.net>
References: <DEE11457-DF28-4348-90D3-F3C136B1C559@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4A2C0203.1080901@frontiernet.net>

Take it back.  They broke it, they fix it.

Kate


Phil Nase wrote:
> The original bugeye grille had a stud top dead center just below the 
> bonnet badge.  When doing the metal work on my bonnet the shop welded 
> up the hole.
>
> My options are to cut off the stud which I really don't want to do or 
> drill open the hole.
>
> Will I be able to drill thru the weld?  If so how do I get a pilot 
> hole in there to locate the hole?  I really don't want to mess up a 
> beautiful paint job.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun  7 12:08:14 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:08:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Girling master cylinders on eBay
Message-ID: <4FDAE90934244A96A34E2F87A3CC6945@spider>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350208985567>
&item=350208985567

No financial interest. I don't find which vehicles these fit using Google.
.bill in oregon

1 x 64967256.

1 x 64967253.

3 x 74066033.

1 x 64066072.

1 x 74969088.

1 x 74066624.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 14:56:42 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 15:56:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
In-Reply-To: <4A2B96C9.25307.75036B@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <18843224.1244289107283.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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I live on the corner of Elm and First Ave.  I am now schizoprenic.
Jim. Or not.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> The streets in my subdivision are named after big mountains - and
> it's pretty flat around here.
> We got streets name after trees -- and this is the desert...
> Across the main drag they're named after Army Generals and no army
> base!.
> We have a Northgate, Southgate, Eastgate and Westgate subdivisions --
> all without gates!!
> The irrelevance goes on and on...
> But there is one exception ---  Rattlesnake Ridge really has got
> rattlesnakes...!!
>
> On 7 Jun 2009 at 9:41, Edward Perez wrote:
> >> I wanna move to Olive St!  I live on 65th, aint noone under
> >> 65........except me!
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
> alive !!
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 16:21:49 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:21:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906071356o1656a358ld9befbab0f798b1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18843224.1244289107283.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<000b01c9e78e$d8659cc0$83e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
	<316311.2909.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4A2B96C9.25307.75036B@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<43840a7e0906071356o1656a358ld9befbab0f798b1f@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
I live on the corner of Elm and First Ave.  I am now schizoprenic. Jim. Or
not.

I have lived on Regal Lane in a neighborhood called Sovereign Estates for
the past 26 years. I have yet to see a royal... The largest lot in the area
is almost 1/2 acre. Sort of small for an "estate" I think.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Sun Jun  7 16:22:09 2009
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 17:22:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
In-Reply-To: <000b01c9e78e$d8659cc0$83e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
References: <18843224.1244289107283.JavaMail.root@mswamui-blood.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<000b01c9e78e$d8659cc0$83e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
Message-ID: <005601c9e7be$677e4220$367ac660$@com>

TO the north of the farm is County N. TO the south of the farm is County N.
2 different counties. I lived on Hass rd., and 3 generations of the Hass
family still farm it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Pazur
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 11:42 AM
> To: charles christ; rrengineer @dslextreme.com; LarryDaniels
> Cc: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
> 
> I live on "County Road N" (Wisconsinites are still practicing their
> letters - right, Flounder?). But I named my land "Daisy Acres" because
> of my
> cat Daisy (she was all white with green eyes) and the fact that I have
> a
> huge field of daisies pop up at this time every year.
> 
> Bud Pazur

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 17:46:50 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:46:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
Message-ID: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Continuing the saga; a never ending series - starring me and the many 
DPO's.

Still not able to hold the engine speed abobe 2500rpm without 
spitting back, I decided to strip both cabs at the same time and 
compare the parts from both back and front catbs at the same time (I 
hadn't done that before!)
Lo and Behold (Poetic - aint I?) the spring from the rear carb was 
2.4" longer than the front one!  (Insert choice of obligatory swear 
words here!) 
So I took the bits of 4 carbs - both from 1275 motors, and proceeded 
to match the springs, piston drop rates and needles (spring or swing 
type) re-assembled and reset them, then went through the basic tuning 
procedure.
Result??
Good idle at 800rpm, pistons rise at the same rate, no miss or 
stumbling, nice pick up when I 'blip' the throttle, runs nice at 
2000rpm. 
*BUT*
If I try to hold the rpms anywhere above 2500, the carbs still spit 
back!!
No manifold leaks, timing spot on, etc., etc., etc..

I'm beginning to suspect low fuel flow at higher rpms is causing it 
to lean out....
Is there a simple test I can do to check how much the stock pump can 
flow??
How many ounces of gas in how much time is what I'd ideally like to 
know...

Sorry to be a pest.. and Thanks  ;-))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sun Jun  7 18:43:03 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:43:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <A161B527406C4C13AC17F4B284804583@BASEMENTDELL>

I too have some of the same problems.

Dave worked his wonders on mine Friday.  What a difference!  

I have confirmed my parts pile does not have the poppets on the carb
butterflies.  

Next on the list is to get a regulator to bring the pressure down and
confirm that the floats are level as well as being able to float.  I did put
a new generic pump in a few weeks ago and found that it does over 5 psi.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:47 PM
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...

Continuing the saga; a never ending series - starring me and the many 
DPO's.

Still not able to hold the engine speed abobe 2500rpm without 
spitting back, I decided to strip both cabs at the same time and 
compare the parts from both back and front catbs at the same time (I 
hadn't done that before!)
Lo and Behold (Poetic - aint I?) the spring from the rear carb was 
2.4" longer than the front one!  (Insert choice of obligatory swear 
words here!) 
So I took the bits of 4 carbs - both from 1275 motors, and proceeded 
to match the springs, piston drop rates and needles (spring or swing 
type) re-assembled and reset them, then went through the basic tuning 
procedure.
Result??
Good idle at 800rpm, pistons rise at the same rate, no miss or 
stumbling, nice pick up when I 'blip' the throttle, runs nice at 
2000rpm. 
*BUT*
If I try to hold the rpms anywhere above 2500, the carbs still spit 
back!!
No manifold leaks, timing spot on, etc., etc., etc..

I'm beginning to suspect low fuel flow at higher rpms is causing it 
to lean out....
Is there a simple test I can do to check how much the stock pump can 
flow??
How many ounces of gas in how much time is what I'd ideally like to 
know...

Sorry to be a pest.. and Thanks  ;-))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Jun  7 18:46:43 2009
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:46:43 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4A2C5F73.40500@wi.net>

We're working on a similar problem with Chris's MkIII.  As he just 
wrote!  (good timing Chris!)

According to "Original Sprite & Midget", 2.5-3.0 psi or 56 pints per 
hour is the pump output.

More later we hope.

Dave W.
Burlington WI
59 :{)


Dave G. wrote:
> Continuing the saga; a never ending series - starring me and the many 
> DPO's.
>
> Still not able to hold the engine speed abobe 2500rpm without 
> spitting back, I decided to strip both cabs at the same time and 
> compare the parts from both back and front catbs at the same time (I 
> hadn't done that before!)
> Lo and Behold (Poetic - aint I?) the spring from the rear carb was 
> 2.4" longer than the front one!  (Insert choice of obligatory swear 
> words here!) 
> So I took the bits of 4 carbs - both from 1275 motors, and proceeded 
> to match the springs, piston drop rates and needles (spring or swing 
> type) re-assembled and reset them, then went through the basic tuning 
> procedure.
> Result??
> Good idle at 800rpm, pistons rise at the same rate, no miss or 
> stumbling, nice pick up when I 'blip' the throttle, runs nice at 
> 2000rpm. 
> *BUT*
> If I try to hold the rpms anywhere above 2500, the carbs still spit 
> back!!
> No manifold leaks, timing spot on, etc., etc., etc..
>
> I'm beginning to suspect low fuel flow at higher rpms is causing it 
> to lean out....
> Is there a simple test I can do to check how much the stock pump can 
> flow??
> How many ounces of gas in how much time is what I'd ideally like to 
> know...
>
> Sorry to be a pest.. and Thanks  ;-))
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
> alive !!

From conan at intrex.net  Sun Jun  7 19:16:15 2009
From: conan at intrex.net (conan)
Date: Sun,  7 Jun 2009 21:16:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
Message-ID: <200906072116.AA1223295248@intrex.net>

  On the other hand...

  I live on Rock Drive.  There is a house halfway along the street with a rock, in the yard, about 5 feet high and long enough to easily park 2 Spridgets nose to tail on top of.
 Ed in NC :-)

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  7 19:24:15 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 18:24:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
Message-ID: <44143.19144.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I acquired one of the adjustable regulators that are round and chrome with a
big chrome knob on top. I think one supplier made them for everybody in the
aftermarket.  I know mine was a sample unit we had at work, but we
discontinued it for some reason.  The specs I found said proper pressure is
between 1.5 and 2.5 PSI, so I set mine at 2.0 and I guess it's doing fine. 
Could maybe use David W's magic touch (next time you come East David), but
mine seem to be doing fine from when Frank set them up before he sold me the
car.
 
David Booker
'71 Midget
Long Island

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, Chris Manuel <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:


From: Chris Manuel <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
To: kk7ss at verizon.net, "'spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, June 7, 2009, 7:43 PM


I too have some of the same problems.

Dave worked his wonders on mine Friday.  What a difference! 

I have confirmed my parts pile does not have the poppets on the carb
butterflies. 

Next on the list is to get a regulator to bring the pressure down and
confirm that the floats are level as well as being able to float.  I did put
a new generic pump in a few weeks ago and found that it does over 5 psi.

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 6:47 PM
To: spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...

Continuing the saga; a never ending series - starring me and the many
DPO's.

Still not able to hold the engine speed abobe 2500rpm without
spitting back, I decided to strip both cabs at the same time and
compare the parts from both back and front catbs at the same time (I
hadn't done that before!)
Lo and Behold (Poetic - aint I?) the spring from the rear carb was
2.4" longer than the front one!  (Insert choice of obligatory swear
words here!)
So I took the bits of 4 carbs - both from 1275 motors, and proceeded
to match the springs, piston drop rates and needles (spring or swing
type) re-assembled and reset them, then went through the basic tuning
procedure.
Result??
Good idle at 800rpm, pistons rise at the same rate, no miss or
stumbling, nice pick up when I 'blip' the throttle, runs nice at
2000rpm.
*BUT*
If I try to hold the rpms anywhere above 2500, the carbs still spit
back!!
No manifold leaks, timing spot on, etc., etc., etc..

I'm beginning to suspect low fuel flow at higher rpms is causing it
to lean out....
Is there a simple test I can do to check how much the stock pump can
flow??
How many ounces of gas in how much time is what I'd ideally like to
know...

Sorry to be a pest.. and Thanks  ;-))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
alive !!
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun  7 19:52:13 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 18:52:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
Message-ID: <880348.46921.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 6/7/09, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> between 1.5 and 2.5 PSI, so I set mine at 2.0 and I guess
> it's doing fine. 

Not to be picky, but those are not regulators, they are just orifices. There's no active feedback on downstream pressure. The numbers on the dial don't correlate to any downstream pressure. The Holley regulators actually have diaphragms and springs and control downstream pressure very nicely.

Ron

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  7 20:01:54 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 22:01:54 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
Message-ID: <28101588.1244426514678.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

so therefore , it "totally rocks"?  ;)

chuck

-----Original Message-----
>From: conan <conan at intrex.net>
>Sent: Jun 7, 2009 9:16 PM
>To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
>
>  On the other hand...
>
>  I live on Rock Drive.  There is a house halfway along the street with a rock, in the yard, about 5 feet high and long enough to easily park 2 Spridgets nose to tail on top of.
> Ed in NC :-)

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 20:04:01 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 21:04:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SOS on the Installment Plan
Message-ID: <402188520906071904k2e50c6e7j6220f9e9ca2ee8bb@mail.gmail.com>

Or Trying to Hit a Moving Target ;-)
I just got home from my stint in the effort to wear down Flounder. The
man is a moose! He has been at this for three weeks now and I could
not keep up with him for three days. A lot more engines, blocks,
transmissions, mystery parts, and bins full of STUFF is now in
Princeton. Looking forward to the next "real" SOS! A member of the
jazz band was helping on Friday. Chris Manuel, Larry Daniels, Neil
anderson, Tony K with his son Tony and his son's friend showed up on
Saturday and worked hard. Neil and I hung around for Sunday's penance.
I finally got out of there a little after 4 this afternoon and I think
WST is still going strong. Someone else's turn now ;-)
David Lieb

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 20:10:53 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 19:10:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <4A2C5F73.40500@wi.net>
References: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <4A2C5F73.40500@wi.net>
Message-ID: <4A2C10BD.12159.423D01@kk7ss.verizon.net>

David W.,

Many Thanks..
I'll assume the book (written in UK) is talking Imperial Pints which 
has 20 fl oz to a pint; that flow rate would equatesto approx 8 fl.oz 
in about 26 secs. 
(Some spaghetti sauce jars are marked off in fluid ounces along the 
side)

I'll try to measure the pump output on Tuesday...

ALso, I have a 25D4 that has a broken Vacuum unit... Does anyone have 
a working Vacuum unit they want to part with ?? (cheap!  - we tight)
I'd like to try replacing the Mallory dual-point to see if that is 
the problem..

Dave G.

On 7 Jun 2009 at 19:46, David Woerpel wrote:

>> According to "Original Sprite & Midget", 2.5-3.0 psi or 56 pints per
>> hour is the pump output.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Sun Jun  7 20:48:14 2009
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:48:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
Message-ID: <60253.67973.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dave,
so the engine has behaved like this since you got the car?
I'd be pulling off the rocker cover and watching while the engine runs. make
sure there isn't a poorly aligned rocker pad over an exhaust valve
I'd also be looking for a valve spring that wasn't up to the task or broken,
Are all 1275s double valve sprung? I know mine is.

I'd have expected fuel starvation to cause it to die off, not so much backfire
through the carbs. Having had a dodgy SU pump in the past, the car used to
just lose power, until I thumped the rear shelf with my fist, and knocked the
pump into life.
With the air filters off, does one carb spit harder than the other? that might
let you narrow it down to either cylinders 1&2 or 3&4 or all over the place.
Have you had the head off this engine?

Andy

--- On Mon, 8/6/09, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

From: Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
To: "spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Received: Monday, 8 June, 2009, 9:46 AM

Continuing the saga; a never ending series - starring me and the many
DPO's.

Still not able to hold the engine speed abobe 2500rpm without
spitting back, I decided to strip both cabs at the same time and
compare the parts from both back and front catbs at the same time (I
hadn't done that before!)
Lo and Behold (Poetic - aint I?) the spring from the rear carb was
2.4" longer than the front one!  (Insert choice of obligatory swear
words here!)
So I took the bits of 4 carbs - both from 1275 motors, and proceeded
to match the springs, piston drop rates and needles (spring or swing
type) re-assembled and reset them, then went through the basic tuning
procedure.
Result??
Good idle at 800rpm, pistons rise at the same rate, no miss or
stumbling, nice pick up when I 'blip' the throttle, runs nice at
2000rpm.
*BUT*
If I try to hold the rpms anywhere above 2500, the carbs still spit
back!!
No manifold leaks, timing spot on, etc., etc., etc..

I'm beginning to suspect low fuel flow at higher rpms is causing it
to lean out....
Is there a simple test I can do to check how much the stock pump can
flow??
How many ounces of gas in how much time is what I'd ideally like to
know...

Sorry to be a pest.. and Thanks  ;-))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
alive !!
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Jun  7 20:51:59 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:51:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <4A2C10BD.12159.423D01@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<4A2C5F73.40500@wi.net> <4A2C10BD.12159.423D01@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W25A3518BEEBA6E933B1A96CA470@phx.gbl>

More than worrying about the fuel pump yet I would be looking at a possibly
clogged fuel filter somewhere in the line or the line out of the tank to be
partially clogged in the tank. It would take a 1275 a lot of work to out-use a
pump.
BillM

> From: kk7ss at verizon.net
> To: dwoerpel at wi.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 19:10:53 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
>
> David W.,
>
> Many Thanks..
> I'll assume the book (written in UK) is talking Imperial Pints which
> has 20 fl oz to a pint; that flow rate would equatesto approx 8 fl.oz
> in about 26 secs.
> (Some spaghetti sauce jars are marked off in fluid ounces along the
> side)
>
> I'll try to measure the pump output on Tuesday...
>
> ALso, I have a 25D4 that has a broken Vacuum unit... Does anyone have
> a working Vacuum unit they want to part with ?? (cheap!  - we tight)
> I'd like to try replacing the Mallory dual-point to see if that is
> the problem..
>
> Dave G.
>
> On 7 Jun 2009 at 19:46, David Woerpel wrote:
>
> >> According to "Original Sprite & Midget", 2.5-3.0 psi or 56 pints per
> >> hour is the pump output.
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
> alive !!
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From elwoodm at gmail.com  Sun Jun  7 21:37:22 2009
From: elwoodm at gmail.com (Elwood Morgan)
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 23:37:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget tires
Message-ID: <3b8235ca0906072037k73b9a97flc5304e799916fe86@mail.gmail.com>

I am bringing my 78 Midget out from a very long hibernation and need to get
new tires after blasting and painting the rims.  The old tires are 145SR13
which were tiny.  What size is the optimum for my Midget?  Not interested in
huge tires, just ones that should be on it to make it ride nicely and handle
as it should.  The rims are stock.

Thanks for this first of very many answers to my questions!!
Elwood in Virginia

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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 22:27:25 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:27:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <BLU107-W25A3518BEEBA6E933B1A96CA470@phx.gbl>
References: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<4A2C10BD.12159.423D01@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<BLU107-W25A3518BEEBA6E933B1A96CA470@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A2C30BD.27145.BF3D51@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Bill,

Now that, too, has me thinking...
The gas cap is a "quick-release" type (so-called LeMans style) like I 
use to use on my racing bikes. I do not see an obvious vent hole.
Where should the vent be with that type of cap?

On 7 Jun 2009 at 19:51, Bill Masquelier wrote:

>> More than worrying about the fuel pump yet I would be looking at a
>> possibly clogged fuel filter somewhere in the line or the line out of
>> the tank to be partially clogged in the tank. It would take a 1275 a
>> lot of work to out-use a pump.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jun  7 22:35:36 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:35:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <60253.67973.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <60253.67973.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A2C32A8.6685.C6BDA7@kk7ss.verizon.net>

G'Day Andy,

I'll put my answers/comments in-line..

On 7 Jun 2009 at 19:48, Andy Webster wrote:
>> so the engine has behaved like this since you got the car?
No... it used to be much worse --- seriously!

>> I'd be pulling off the rocker cover and watching while the engine
>> runs. make sure there isn't a poorly aligned rocker pad over an
>> exhaust valve
I have some machined alloy spacers that I bought from a lister that 
would keep the rockers from shifting.

>> I'd also be looking for a valve spring that wasn't up to
>> the task or broken, Are all 1275s double valve sprung? I know mine is.
Broken I could see but I'm not sdure I have a way to tell if a spring 
was not up to scratch.

>> I'd have expected fuel starvation to cause it to die off, not so much
>> backfire through the carbs.
If I keep it below 1500 - 1800 rpm  it will keep running for hours

>> Having had a dodgy SU pump in the past,
>> the car used to just lose power, until I thumped the rear shelf with
>> my fist, and knocked the pump into life.
I used to keep a hammer in the trunk for that very purpose.

>> With the air filters off,
>> does one carb spit harder than the other? that might let you narrow it
>> down to either cylinders 1&2 or 3&4 or all over the place.
Both carbs, equally at the same time but spasmodic.

>> Have you had the head off this engine?
Nope... but I see that that's a job I'm going to have to do..

Many thanks for your input... much appreciated  ;-))
Have a Fosters on my tab    ;-))

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From wsthompson at thicko.com  Mon Jun  8 05:18:01 2009
From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 06:18:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SOS on the Installment Plan
In-Reply-To: <402188520906071904k2e50c6e7j6220f9e9ca2ee8bb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520906071904k2e50c6e7j6220f9e9ca2ee8bb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001201c9e82a$caad8650$600892f0$@com>

OK, let's be honest here... you and Neil were tireless... Neil for 2 days,
you for 3 days. Me, after 3 weeks of this, I am damn tired.

Thanks to all for the help.

We've got a nearly impossible task almost done. I'd call it 90% after
today's work hauling stuff to the scrap yard..

The new Thicko shop has an interesting automotive history that I'll have
time to describe later this week.

WST

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 9:04 PM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: [Spridgets] SOS on the Installment Plan
> 
> Or Trying to Hit a Moving Target ;-)
> I just got home from my stint in the effort to wear down Flounder. The
> man is a moose! He has been at this for three weeks now and I could
> not keep up with him for three days. A lot more engines, blocks,
> transmissions, mystery parts, and bins full of STUFF is now in
> Princeton. Looking forward to the next "real" SOS! A member of the
> jazz band was helping on Friday. Chris Manuel, Larry Daniels, Neil
> anderson, Tony K with his son Tony and his son's friend showed up on
> Saturday and worked hard. Neil and I hung around for Sunday's penance.
> I finally got out of there a little after 4 this afternoon and I think
> WST is still going strong. Someone else's turn now ;-)
> David Lieb

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun  8 07:01:37 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:01:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget tires
In-Reply-To: <3b8235ca0906072037k73b9a97flc5304e799916fe86@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3b8235ca0906072037k73b9a97flc5304e799916fe86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A2D0BB1.2080906@comcast.net>

Elwood Morgan wrote:
>   What size is the optimum for my Midget?  
>
>   
I am running 175/70s on all my Sprites.
Bugeyes, square bodies, they just look right.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From bpazur at excel.net  Mon Jun  8 07:01:44 2009
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:01:44 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting Carbs
Message-ID: <200906081301.n58D1is2026342@green.excel.net>

I have been working on this problem for weeks. I tore the carbs completely
apart three times, checked advance, dwell, changed condenser, tightened
manifold nuts, checked fuel output (Facet thru Holley regulator), on and on
and on...

Finally I noticed that one plug was black, the others clean. I changed the
wire to that plug and, voila, drove it like I stole it.

Bud Pazur

From cbking at alum.rpi.edu  Mon Jun  8 07:02:21 2009
From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 06:02:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget tires
Message-ID: <902601c9e839$5c4a8fa0$0168010a@mail2world.com>

I haven't seen a 145SR13 in years. Best bet is a 155/13 or a 175/70/13.
If you could find a 165/70/13, that would work too, but they're rather
rare as well.
 
I'm running Sumitomo HTR200's, 175/70/13, but on aftermarket alloy
wheels.
 
Good luck.
-=Chris

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Elwood Morgan [elwoodm at gmail.com]
Sent: 6/7/2009 11:39:22 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget tires 

I am bringing my 78 Midget out from a very long hibernation and need to
get 
new tires after blasting and painting the rims. The old tires are
145SR13 
which were tiny. What size is the optimum for my Midget? Not interested
in 
huge tires, just ones that should be on it to make it ride nicely and
handle 
as it should. The rims are stock. 

Thanks for this first of very many answers to my questions!! 
Elwood in Virginia 

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From jdinnis at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 07:26:14 2009
From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:26:14 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting Carbs
In-Reply-To: <200906081301.n58D1is2026342@green.excel.net>
References: <200906081301.n58D1is2026342@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <abb8688a0906080626h3f281b41kb28576e6b863efd1@mail.gmail.com>

Remainds me of an old joke:
Carburator is an old french word that translates to "Check the Ignition"

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Bud Pazur<bpazur at excel.net> wrote:
> I have been working on this problem for weeks. I tore the carbs completely
> apart three times, checked advance, dwell, changed condenser, tightened
> manifold nuts, checked fuel output (Facet thru Holley regulator), on and on
> and on...
>
> Finally I noticed that one plug was black, the others clean. I changed the
> wire to that plug and, voila, drove it like I stole it.
>
> Bud Pazur
> _______________________________________________
=================================
= Never offend people with style when you   =
= can offend with substance --- Sam Brown  =
=================================

From healeymnster at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 07:27:22 2009
From: healeymnster at gmail.com (Ed Townley)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 07:27:22 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Incredible
Message-ID: <164073bc0906080627y7f9ceea8nf260defccba05007@mail.gmail.com>

This may relate to how some of those street names came about.
I live so far out in the county, north of Las Cruces, on the East bank of
the Rio Grande, that our road had no name for several years.  when the
Electric Co.  asked us what we would like the name to be, no one could
agree- (amongst 8-10 neigbors on a 3/4 mile road) most popular choice was
"Geronimo's Cave" which can be seen in the Robledo Mountains across the
river. I (as well as a few others) were against that, knowing we would be
inundated with couriosity seekers wanting to find the cave, so--stalemate!
then the Electric Company named the road while we were wrangling.--Ironshoe
Rd.  Ain't no Iron, but there are quite a few Iron Horeshoes around--most
are attached to horses.
Ed Townley
Southern NM, USA





Date: Sun,  7 Jun 2009 21:16:15 -0400
From: "conan" <conan at intrex.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Incredible
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <200906072116.AA1223295248 at intrex.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 On the other hand...

 I live on Rock Drive.  There is a house halfway along the street with a
rock, in the yard, about 5 feet high and long enough to easily park 2
Spridgets nose to tail on top of.
 Ed in NC :-)

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Jun  8 08:36:37 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 10:36:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget tires
In-Reply-To: <3b8235ca0906072037k73b9a97flc5304e799916fe86@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <3b8235ca0906072037k73b9a97flc5304e799916fe86@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7lku3e$69ek51@email.mtu.edu>

I bought 145SR13's a little over a year ago. Here's the old quote 
from Tires Unlimited, Inc www.tiresunlimited.com

145R13 Vredestein Sprint+ $53.30 (13 lbs.) each x 5 = $266.5 (65 lbs.)
ER12/13 radial tubes $7.06 (1 lbs.) each x 5 = $35.30 (5 lbs.)
Shipping 70 pounds to Midland, MI is $27.65
Total delivered price is $329.45

And, from  sportsnclassics.com - Tubes are available around 15.00 
each and tires around 59.95 each

I installed on a 1966 Sprite and am happy with the tires. Ed says the 
Big Healey guys like Verdestein tires too.


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Jun  8 08:38:09 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:38:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting Carbs
In-Reply-To: <200906081301.n58D1is2026342@green.excel.net>
References: <200906081301.n58D1is2026342@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <4A2CBFE1.16464.23DE7C@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Sad(?) to say --- all plugs dark and new solid core wires ;-((
Was a good idea tho'...
I might have distributor problems...

Dave G.

On 8 Jun 2009 at 8:01, Bud Pazur wrote:

>> Finally I noticed that one plug was black, the others clean. I changed
>> the wire to that plug and, voila, drove it like I stole it.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 11:37:33 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 12:37:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting Carbs
In-Reply-To: <abb8688a0906080626h3f281b41kb28576e6b863efd1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200906081301.n58D1is2026342@green.excel.net>
	<abb8688a0906080626h3f281b41kb28576e6b863efd1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0906081037h266c5eeag51d276e257983de5@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 8:26 AM, John Innis <jdinnis at gmail.com> wrote:

Remainds me of an old joke:
Carburator is an old french word that translates to "Check the Ignition"

Actually, if my memory is any good, it is a line from the book "Zen and the
Art of Motorcycle Maintenance". The author states that "carburetor" is the
French word for "leave it alone".


-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun  8 11:47:17 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 12:47:17 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan trip
Message-ID: <200906081047374.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>

Many thanks to those who provided info.

  The trip went off without a hitch, excepting the one on the Subaru 
pulling 1700lbs of shock cores.

  1050 miles of trees..... lots and lots of trees. Nice place, 
Michigan. A bit cooler than WI, though. Must be the lake. Downright 
chilly in the UP.

Get back to work.

Peter C

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 11:49:15 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 10:49:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906081049j23ff25d8nd76d9b6185efa7ec@mail.gmail.com>

Dave,

I read so many posts regarding SU issues.  If you want to keep the car
stock. .  then of course you would stay with the SU's.

My car is a driver.  . I had SU issues with this one.  For some reason,
never had any SU issues with my 1960 MGA.  I was always able to tune it to
bunsen blue using the Color Tune.

But for some reason the SU's on my Bugeye always gave me fits.

Pierce Manifolds in Gilroy has a great carb which solved all the headaches
for me.

Although they are a large Weber dealer. .  I bought a carb called an OER.
It is a Japanese version of the Weber DCOE 45.  It takes all the same jets
and emulsion tubes.  However, it also has an adjustment for float bowl
height as well as an adjustment for the accelerator pump.

For the last 3 years I have been enjoying maintenance free performance.  For
me it was one of the best things I have done to my 59 Frog Aye.

Just thought I would mention. . .

Kirk

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 12:12:02 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 13:12:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan trip
In-Reply-To: <200906081047374.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
References: <200906081047374.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906081112s42bd4c5o78d20b5607db54f0@mail.gmail.com>

>  1050 miles of trees..... lots and lots of trees. Nice place, Michigan. A
> bit cooler than WI, though. Must be the lake. Downright chilly in the UP.

I dunno, Peter. It was downright chilly in Wisconsin this weekend,
too. It meant we could work harder before melting into a puddle.
David Lieb

From cmlove at knology.net  Mon Jun  8 12:47:46 2009
From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love)
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 13:47:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] SU Carb Spacers?
Message-ID: <4A2D5CD2.5080705@knology.net>

Anybody got a spare SU carb spacer they are willing to part with.

I have one that is cracked and Vicky Brit and Moss both want $22 + $10 
shipping and that seems really steep for a carb spacer.

I'm willing to pay.  I just don't want to bleed money to get one.

Is there an alternative?

Peter, you got one for sale?

Thanks,

Monty Love
Huntsville, Al.
73 Midget

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Jun  8 13:14:30 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 14:14:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan trip
In-Reply-To: <402188520906081112s42bd4c5o78d20b5607db54f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200906081047374.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
	<402188520906081112s42bd4c5o78d20b5607db54f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3AB92AE5CA65490898A48667331D8908@BASEMENTDELL>

Well, there weren't any skeeters at least...

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:12 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Michigan trip

>  1050 miles of trees..... lots and lots of trees. Nice place, Michigan. A
> bit cooler than WI, though. Must be the lake. Downright chilly in the UP.

I dunno, Peter. It was downright chilly in Wisconsin this weekend,
too. It meant we could work harder before melting into a puddle.
David Lieb

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jun  8 19:06:28 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 20:06:28 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget tires
In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$69ek51@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJKEIODHAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<I bought 145SR13's a little over a year ago.>>

Still listed, Tim !!

<<Ed says the Big Healey guys like Verdestein 
tires too.>>

Yep<G>!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Jun  8 19:21:04 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 18:21:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <4A2C30BD.27145.BF3D51@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<4A2C10BD.12159.423D01@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<BLU107-W25A3518BEEBA6E933B1A96CA470@phx.gbl>
	<4A2C30BD.27145.BF3D51@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W19CE738349FD67B7D31D7ACA440@phx.gbl>

I don't know where it should vent but for a test I would just a common, normal
cap on there for a day or two and see what happens.
Bill

> From: kk7ss at verizon.net
> To: kk7ss at verizon.net; dwoerpel at wi.net; spridgets at autox.team.net;
billmasq at hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 21:27:25 -0700
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
>
> Bill,
>
> Now that, too, has me thinking...
> The gas cap is a "quick-release" type (so-called LeMans style) like I
> use to use on my racing bikes. I do not see an obvious vent hole.
> Where should the vent be with that type of cap?
>
> On 7 Jun 2009 at 19:51, Bill Masquelier wrote:
>
> >> More than worrying about the fuel pump yet I would be looking at a
> >> possibly clogged fuel filter somewhere in the line or the line out of
> >> the tank to be partially clogged in the tank. It would take a 1275 a
> >> lot of work to out-use a pump.
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
> alive !!

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From denadave at ca.rr.com  Tue Jun  9 04:10:58 2009
From: denadave at ca.rr.com (Dena & David Vrba)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 03:10:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What curve setting on 123 ignition dizzy for 1275
Message-ID: <C5308C91AB1F4234A0F1BE5C6B882B13@vrbanewbox>

Hi listers,
Planning to put a 123 ignition dizzy in my 1275, replacing the 25D unit their
now.  Has anyone else installed one of these in their baby?  What curve
setting should I use?

David Vrba
Corona, CA

'62 Sprite MKII
1275
headers
Weber down draft

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun  9 06:23:44 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:23:44 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: Ottawa stop signs
In-Reply-To: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DB0A@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
References: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169DB0A@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W112E20875FDD1EB8A33905B8440@phx.gbl>

http://blogs.carpoint.ca/2009/06/mystery-sign-maker-literally-stops-traffic.h
tml

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Tue Jun  9 09:04:24 2009
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 10:04:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Michigan trip
In-Reply-To: <200906081047374.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
References: <200906081047374.SM02468@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4A2E79F8.9070205@wi.net>

Charlevoix MI was 44* yesterday with 30-40 mph winds.  It better warm up 
by Sunday when we sail from there to Kenosha WI!  I'll  have so many 
layers on if I go overboard I'll be food for the fishes (who needs 
cement shoes!).  Of course the object is....don't go overboard.

Glad you had a good trip Peter.  You can use the unusable shock cores 
for ballast in Ron's car; he needs it now that he is so light weight!

Dave W.



Peter Caldwell wrote:
> Many thanks to those who provided info.
>
>  The trip went off without a hitch, excepting the one on the Subaru 
> pulling 1700lbs of shock cores.
>
>  1050 miles of trees..... lots and lots of trees. Nice place, 
> Michigan. A bit cooler than WI, though. Must be the lake. Downright 
> chilly in the UP.
>
> Get back to work.
>
> Peter C

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jun  9 10:26:27 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:26:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] What engine?
Message-ID: <28CAB62DDBE647DFB7A2640DB9114D60@Home>

I have an engine with the tag removed (??why??).  I was told it is a 1098, extensively reworked by some famous engine builder from years ago.  What should I look for to determine what it is?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From derf247 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 10:30:14 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 10:30:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] What engine?
In-Reply-To: <28CAB62DDBE647DFB7A2640DB9114D60@Home>
References: <28CAB62DDBE647DFB7A2640DB9114D60@Home>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910906090930l70e39bf2nf78a932b707fc58b@mail.gmail.com>

Head casting number, block side covers, block fuel pump boss,
bore/stroke (obvious, I know), head stud count,
I'm sure there are more, but that is off the top of my head.

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun  9 10:32:04 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:32:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] What engine?
In-Reply-To: <28CAB62DDBE647DFB7A2640DB9114D60@Home>
References: <28CAB62DDBE647DFB7A2640DB9114D60@Home>
Message-ID: <24518F60-95D3-4129-A803-FC6C935DB159@comcast.net>

If it's been "reworked" then all that you can do is measure  
everything..  start with cyl diameters, then intake and exhaust  
diameters, then crank bearing diameters and then throw...

Lester


On Jun 9, 2009, at 11:26 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:

> I have an engine with the tag removed (??why??).  I was told it is a  
> 1098, extensively reworked by some famous engine builder from years  
> ago.  What should I look for to determine what it is?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
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From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun  9 12:25:56 2009
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 13:25:56 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 78 Midget tires (Elwood Morgan)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1244484002.27318.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.15.1244484002.27318.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4A2EA934.1030002@sbcglobal.net>

Elwood,

I asked this question recently, too, and was told that 165/70-13 is 
almost exactly the same diameter as the original 145SR13 only wider, but 
are hard to find. That's true, but I did find a cheap, no-name brand 
-Trazano- locally for $39 a pop. They seem "OK" so far, but they are 
smaller than the 155/80-13s I had on before and now my RPMs are up 
slightly at the same speed. I was concerned that 175/70-13 would rub in 
the back, but if I had to do it again I would go with 175/80-13.

Lee (not Jake)
'79 Midget

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jun  9 13:06:55 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:06:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Graphic Tire Size Comparison Website
Message-ID: <38606.97397.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Just ordered a set of Superlite Wheels for the Innocenti Spider from Hap at the Acme Speed Shop and he gave me this link which might be useful to listers who want to graphically compare tire sizes.

http://www.mintylamb.co.uk/?page=tyre.htm

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT
Innocenti Spider
Mk II Sprite
Morris Mini Van

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  9 13:29:21 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 12:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] What engine?
Message-ID: <263344.74968.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

> I have an engine with the tag removed
> (??why??).  I was told it is a 1098, extensively
> reworked by some famous engine builder from years ago. 
> What should I look for to determine what it is?

Flounder is probably the best race parts cryptographer there is, so he may have answered off line. The head may have markings back by the heater valve ("CTXXX" for Comptune, for instance), and it will likely at least have the chamber volumes marked as well. Some guys put the flow bench numbers on there as well. The crank may be marked  - I recently bought a crankshaft for $60 that still had Rick Haynes' name on it (jackpot). This is usually a lot of fun - let us know what you find. 

Ron

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun  9 13:52:39 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:52:39 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] What engine?
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910906090930l70e39bf2nf78a932b707fc58b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C6540B97.17D38%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Make sure it has 2" mains.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun  9 17:38:33 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 18:38:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Florida guys, Can you help?
In-Reply-To: <62b83300906041928q1be957b8i75d2e8982057f3e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A2830CC.9060101@comcast.net>
	<62b83300906041456j44445283wf84fc8b721e7dc68@mail.gmail.com>
	<C71B500A6FB04C4DBF440426077CC23E@universal1>
	<881856.55416.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4A2876E0.1050907@frontiernet.net>
	<62b83300906041928q1be957b8i75d2e8982057f3e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906091638nc5c4512i905e70de90b352c7@mail.gmail.com>

No reply from Florida...
David L

From d.swanson at earthlink.net  Tue Jun  9 18:19:03 2009
From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 20:19:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini in Mass
Message-ID: <AB366E53851F446CBC81C0CB43DBC533@HomeComputer>

Anyone live in Mass and have an old refrigerator box (or maybe slightly
larger) they would not mind filling and shipping south?

 

What's the weight limit for UPS?

 

http://www.spridgetmania.com/web/id/8522/Cars4Sale_Detail.cfm

 

Dean Swanson

'62 A.H. Sprite mkII

Holly Spring, NC

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jun 10 06:51:39 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:51:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy ID
Message-ID: <158352.50329.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Can anyone ID these distributors\?
40656B
40705B
40752A
 
TIA,
Jay Fishbein

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Wed Jun 10 07:27:00 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:27:00 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] What engine?
Message-ID: <7961216.1244640420022.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

a business i worked for a long time ago built engines for randy canfield who
at one time was SCCA national champion in H-production for a number of years.
decyphering who built what engine can be very easy or very difficult.   one
shop of the time (i have one of their 948's stashed awaiting rebuild) painted
qualifying engines "blue" and racing motors "red"!  i was very suprised by the
odd colors for BMC engines as most chose black that i was aware of.   the
answer!  the really close to the edge of "grenade" (fast but very unreliable!)
engines were painted " blow up blue" , and... the racing engines were painted
(still fast but very predictable as far as reliable was concerned) "racing
red"! that same place painted axle ends the same way to tell soft from hard
axles!
there is a lot to look at as far as what do you really have.   the missing
engine tag indicated the block had the head gasket surface machined to true
the surface.  you may or may not see remnants of the two retaining rivets in
the deck.  i remember cold chiseling off engine tags and throwing them away on
certain engines before milling the decks and yet other ones carefully removing
tags and re-riveting then after machine work was done...... ask "hopper" or
"flounder" how hard to keep a head gasket in an engine if it's not just right.
hmmmm i still have a few good cooper "S" BMC head gaskets stashed...and then
you get into who's regrind cam is it........norris was a good cam source from
a long time ago.  and before 3 into one headers and through the tunnel exhaust
was popular , longman was a great header company.   but that was a long time
ago in a far away galaxy.....now i wished i had one of the many nifty alloy
period valve covers i remember seeing that i reguarded as"evry one had one" at
the time.....
mike , you are very close to me.   possibly you have one of the "gutekunst
fabricators" engines i worked on? or later bob griffith whom now is known as
"BHP development" (he did a lot of the top secret nift neat-O head porting and
balancing work for gutekunst before branching off on his own , also he drove
the gutekunst SCCA national run off winning G-prod spridget  as well as the
GT4 (i think?) blue and white mini #4 prior to that in SCCA national events).
honey hill farms racing built the color coded engines.

chuck.

lurk-lurk-lurk.....back to alfa romeo GTV6 & formula ford work......
-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
>Sent: Jun 9, 2009 12:26 PM
>To: Spridget Chat Group <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Spridgets] What engine?
>
>I have an engine with the tag removed (??why??).  I was told it is a 1098,
extensively reworked by some famous engine builder from years ago.  What
should I look for to determine what it is?

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Wed Jun 10 07:39:52 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:39:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs
Message-ID: <F93EE9E16E3B4F078920E86BDF08743D@Home>

The car was running just fine, but the idle was a little low, so I began fussing with the carbs.  Soon, it was not running at all.  (Who said "carburetor" is a French word meaning, "do not touch?")  I had to start all over again, and learned the following:

1.  The front jet will not screw all the way to the top, the rear screws well above the top.  The rear must be eyeballed the same amount below the top as the front.

2.  Twelve faces down is visibly different for front and rear.  Again, I had to eyeball the difference, although I suppose I could measure it if I had a reasonably accurate measuring device.  My cheap caliper is old and rusty.

3.  There is gas standing in the rear jet; the front is dry.  So there is a big difference in the floats.  Should I be able to see gas standing in the jet?

4.  I eyeballed everything and drove up and down the road adjusting the jets until the car was running smoothly.  Should I leave well enough alone, or try to figure out why these two carbs are so different?  So far, doing things by the book has not served me well.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From nases at verizon.net  Wed Jun 10 08:55:11 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:55:11 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs
In-Reply-To: <F93EE9E16E3B4F078920E86BDF08743D@Home>
References: <F93EE9E16E3B4F078920E86BDF08743D@Home>
Message-ID: <8B4F867A-D232-4FA6-8BB4-0477CDCA6C4D@verizon.net>

Time for an Oshit.

Sent from my iPhone

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

On Jun 10, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> The car was running just fine, but the idle was a little low, so I  
> began fussing with the carbs.  Soon, it was not running at all.   
> (Who said "carburetor" is a French word meaning, "do not touch?")  I  
> had to start all over again, and learned the following:
>
> 1.  The front jet will not screw all the way to the top, the rear  
> screws well above the top.  The rear must be eyeballed the same  
> amount below the top as the front.
>
> 2.  Twelve faces down is visibly different for front and rear.   
> Again, I had to eyeball the difference, although I suppose I could  
> measure it if I had a reasonably accurate measuring device.  My  
> cheap caliper is old and rusty.
>
> 3.  There is gas standing in the rear jet; the front is dry.  So  
> there is a big difference in the floats.  Should I be able to see  
> gas standing in the jet?
>
> 4.  I eyeballed everything and drove up and down the road adjusting  
> the jets until the car was running smoothly.  Should I leave well  
> enough alone, or try to figure out why these two carbs are so  
> different?  So far, doing things by the book has not served me well.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
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From abcoz at hky.com  Wed Jun 10 15:00:00 2009
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 17:00:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs
In-Reply-To: <F93EE9E16E3B4F078920E86BDF08743D@Home>
References: <F93EE9E16E3B4F078920E86BDF08743D@Home>
Message-ID: <55B4BA6676CC4050967B55BA3E9332C5@OwnerPC>

Michael,
There is a reason that doing things by the book has not served you well:  In 
order to be successful, you must start at the beginning (in this case, the 
carbs must be properly assembled, with correct parts and correct float 
levels on both carbs), and don't skip any of the steps you are supposed to 
take.  It's nothing short of amazing (being a bit sarcastic here ;)) how 
well things will work for you when you PROPERLY do things "by the book".
In the case of your car, it's important that the valve clearances, dwell 
angle and timing be correctly set before you even cast a sideways glance at 
the carbs.  From the sound of it, your float levels are significantly out of 
wack, and there is something definitely not right with the jet mounting on 
the front carb (something not fitting right, incorrect parts, extra 
something in there, etc.).
Once everything is correctly adjusted/sorted out and back to factory specs, 
I have a feeling that your understanding of "running fine" will reach a new 
level.
Good luck and have fun.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs


> The car was running just fine, but the idle was a little low, so I began 
> fussing with the carbs.  Soon, it was not running at all.  (Who said 
> "carburetor" is a French word meaning, "do not touch?")  I had to start 
> all over again, and learned the following:
>
> 1.  The front jet will not screw all the way to the top, the rear screws 
> well above the top.  The rear must be eyeballed the same amount below the 
> top as the front.
>
> 2.  Twelve faces down is visibly different for front and rear.  Again, I 
> had to eyeball the difference, although I suppose I could measure it if I 
> had a reasonably accurate measuring device.  My cheap caliper is old and 
> rusty.
>
> 3.  There is gas standing in the rear jet; the front is dry.  So there is 
> a big difference in the floats.  Should I be able to see gas standing in 
> the jet?
>
> 4.  I eyeballed everything and drove up and down the road adjusting the 
> jets until the car was running smoothly.  Should I leave well enough 
> alone, or try to figure out why these two carbs are so different?  So far, 
> doing things by the book has not served me well.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 10 17:39:05 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:39:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting new leak
Message-ID: <4A304419.6070802@comcast.net>

The Lady Bug has had a tranny oil leak since it was finished.
We determined that it was coming out of the new rear tranny seal.
But the seal was new.
So I finally put it up on my son's lift and took a good look at it.
Yes, it was coming from the rear seal but NOT out of the back of the seal.
You know, where seals are supposed to leak.
So I think maybe from the bottom of the shifter remote dripping on the 
tail shaft and around the seal.
Nope.
It was leaking from where the seal meets the tranny, where it gets crimped.
Now there is not supposed to be a leak there and the seal went on nice 
and tight when I put it on and yes I crimped it in 3 places as original
with service tool # G-101 (aka a BFH and a screw driver)
So I cleaned off all the oil and put some black goop  (not silicone) I 
found in the kid's garage around where the metal seal meets the metal 
tranny.
So far, so good.
Now back out to put the needle back on the speedometer and see if maybe 
a voltage stabilizer will cure the always full gas gauge.
(later tank and gauge)

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 10 19:19:23 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:19:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Carbs
In-Reply-To: <F93EE9E16E3B4F078920E86BDF08743D@Home>
References: <F93EE9E16E3B4F078920E86BDF08743D@Home>
Message-ID: <4A305B9B.9090609@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> The car was running just fine, but the idle was a little low, so I began fussing with the carbs.  Soon, it was not running at all.  (Who said "carburetor" is a French word meaning, "do not touch?")  I had to start all over again, and learned the following:
>
> 1.  The front jet will not screw all the way to the top, the rear screws well above the top.  The rear must be eyeballed the same amount below the top as the front.
>
>   
The jets should both be flat with the inside base of the carb when the 
adjuster nut is all the way up.

> 2.  Twelve faces down is visibly different for front and rear.  Again, I had to eyeball the difference, although I suppose I could measure it if I had a reasonably accurate measuring device.  My cheap caliper is old and rusty.
>
>   
Also make sure the needles are flush with the base of the pistons, the 
needle shoulder that is.
> 3.  There is gas standing in the rear jet; the front is dry.  So there is a big difference in the floats.  Should I be able to see gas standing in the jet?
>
>   
Gas will stand in the jets, but not spill out into the carbs. The gas in 
the jet is level with where ever the float is set.
It's just a gravity tube

Check that the float bowl is not off kilter, there is a locating peg on 
the carb body, they are often snapped off.
Both floats should be tilted the same, wiggle them, if they move more 
than about a 1/6 of an inch, the peg is broken.
They will move as they have a rubber block inside the mount but also a 
metal peg.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jun 10 19:37:30 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:37:30 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
Message-ID: <CF60164A-6FF0-4BB5-9400-3859FD5BE555@snet.net>

Just received a Maniflow system from APT. I'm going to call them  
tomorrow, but what I received is an over-the-axle system (not what was  
illustrated on their site.)

Has anyone used one of these Maniflow systems from APT? Did the pipe  
go over the rear axle?

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

From refisk at chartermi.net  Wed Jun 10 20:02:49 2009
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:02:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive
Message-ID: <076801c9ea38$b917c260$6401a8c0@refisk>

Lookie what I found.  ZDDP (zinc dialkyl dithiophosphate) oil additive for 
all of us old car drivers.

http://www.worldofmotorworks.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ZDDPlus

Anybody think it will work?

Rick 

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 20:29:57 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:29:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive
In-Reply-To: <076801c9ea38$b917c260$6401a8c0@refisk>
References: <076801c9ea38$b917c260$6401a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906101929i38b1a61agb8bf1b7f0850c12@mail.gmail.com>

Short answer:  Yes, it will work.

http://www.ZDDP.com

http://www.macysgarage.com/myweb6/ZDDP.htm

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Rick <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> Lookie what I found.  ZDDP (zinc dialkyl dithiophosphate) oil additive for
> all of us old car drivers.
>
> http://www.worldofmotorworks.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ZDDPlus
>
> Anybody think it will work?
>
> Rick

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Wed Jun 10 21:16:35 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:16:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
In-Reply-To: <CF60164A-6FF0-4BB5-9400-3859FD5BE555@snet.net>
References: <CF60164A-6FF0-4BB5-9400-3859FD5BE555@snet.net>
Message-ID: <d49b03130906102016x7ac8c502xdc194333d90079cb@mail.gmail.com>

Jay,
     I have the Maniflow exhaust system for my Bugeye from APT.  I bought
mine 3 or 4 years ago, but the system comes from the LCB header to the
cylindrical muffler straight back under the rear axle. Just a slight bend so
it will come up to meet the muffler.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> Just received a Maniflow system from APT. I'm going to call them tomorrow,
> but what I received is an over-the-axle system (not what was illustrated on
> their site.)
>
> Has anyone used one of these Maniflow systems from APT? Did the pipe go
> over the rear axle?
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 22:07:49 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:07:49 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906102107w2f0c594k34bdf98f8944d7c9@mail.gmail.com>

Is there such thing as brake drums that are...NOT...made in China?

Who sells them and where are they made?

Thanks,

Herb

From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com  Wed Jun 10 22:41:13 2009
From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:41:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
References: <CF60164A-6FF0-4BB5-9400-3859FD5BE555@snet.net>
	<d49b03130906102016x7ac8c502xdc194333d90079cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43EE5C2BD05E4EBABF6627F1B812B674@Music>

I have their system on my car too and it is just like Mikes, under the axle, 
they must have sent you the wrong part.
Jon



> Jay,
>     I have the Maniflow exhaust system for my Bugeye from APT.  I bought
> mine 3 or 4 years ago, but the system comes from the LCB header to the
> cylindrical muffler straight back under the rear axle. Just a slight bend 
> so
> it will come up to meet the muffler.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
>
>> Just received a Maniflow system from APT. I'm going to call them 
>> tomorrow,
>> but what I received is an over-the-axle system (not what was illustrated 
>> on
>> their site.)
>>
>> Has anyone used one of these Maniflow systems from APT? Did the pipe go
>> over the rear axle?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 00:24:22 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 01:24:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
In-Reply-To: <d49b03130906102016x7ac8c502xdc194333d90079cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CF60164A-6FF0-4BB5-9400-3859FD5BE555@snet.net>
	<d49b03130906102016x7ac8c502xdc194333d90079cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906102324p375d455ey412a8447e5b879b0@mail.gmail.com>

And Mike's sounds superb!!  I can vouch for it!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <
rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Jay,
>     I have the Maniflow exhaust system for my Bugeye from APT.  I bought
> mine 3 or 4 years ago, but the system comes from the LCB header to the
> cylindrical muffler straight back under the rear axle. Just a slight bend
> so
> it will come up to meet the muffler.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
>
> > Just received a Maniflow system from APT. I'm going to call them
> tomorrow,
> > but what I received is an over-the-axle system (not what was illustrated
> on
> > their site.)
> >
> > Has anyone used one of these Maniflow systems from APT? Did the pipe go
> > over the rear axle?
> >
> > Jay Fishbein
> > Wallingford, CT

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Thu Jun 11 05:05:10 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:05:10 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] What curve setting on 123 ignition dizzy for  1275
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV3F477F145B8B3C5641E25C8420@phx.gbl>

"What curve should I use?"

Depends upon engine's state of tune.

Full instructions and suggested curves come with the unit along with phone number for tech assisstance.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From heard at datatrontech.net  Thu Jun 11 05:57:40 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:57:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10906102107w2f0c594k34bdf98f8944d7c9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10906102107w2f0c594k34bdf98f8944d7c9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <364c01c9ea8b$d252b840$1801010a@xp>

That is a really good question, of which, I do not know the answer.
However, I've started asking and looking for non-China labels for ALL
products.  I figure the only way we'll ever get rid of some of this stuff or
get the quality up is to stop buying it if possible.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 12:08 AM
To: Spridgeteers; bugeye-subscribe at yahoogroups.com; Sprite Yahoo
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums

Is there such thing as brake drums that are...NOT...made in China?

Who sells them and where are they made?

Thanks,

Herb
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Thu Jun 11 06:35:44 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:35:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906102324p375d455ey412a8447e5b879b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CF60164A-6FF0-4BB5-9400-3859FD5BE555@snet.net>
	<d49b03130906102016x7ac8c502xdc194333d90079cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0906102324p375d455ey412a8447e5b879b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03130906110535h2ff77c4er76ad39884a26cbde@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, thanks Jim, it is great to listen to around town knowing how
politically in-correct it is.
Mike MacLean

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:24 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> And Mike's sounds superb!!  I can vouch for it!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <
> rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
>> Jay,
>>     I have the Maniflow exhaust system for my Bugeye from APT.  I bought
>> mine 3 or 4 years ago, but the system comes from the LCB header to the
>> cylindrical muffler straight back under the rear axle. Just a slight bend
>> so
>> it will come up to meet the muffler.
>> Mike MacLean
>> 60 Sprite
>> 56 BN2
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Just received a Maniflow system from APT. I'm going to call them
>> tomorrow,
>> > but what I received is an over-the-axle system (not what was illustrated
>> on
>> > their site.)
>> >
>> > Has anyone used one of these Maniflow systems from APT? Did the pipe go
>> > over the rear axle?
>> >
>> > Jay Fishbein
>> > Wallingford, CT

From dwoerpel at wi.net  Thu Jun 11 06:57:15 2009
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:57:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <364c01c9ea8b$d252b840$1801010a@xp>
References: <2ad6c6b10906102107w2f0c594k34bdf98f8944d7c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<364c01c9ea8b$d252b840$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <4A30FF2B.1010900@wi.net>

Speaking of drums, in case one runs across an original set of drums , 
i.e., take-offs from a drum to disc conversion, what is the minimum drum 
thickness?

Just a ?

Dave W.
Burlington WI



Heard wrote:
> That is a really good question, of which, I do not know the answer.
> However, I've started asking and looking for non-China labels for ALL
> products.  I figure the only way we'll ever get rid of some of this stuff or
> get the quality up is to stop buying it if possible.
>
>   


> Is there such thing as brake drums that are...NOT...made in China?
>
> Who sells them and where are they made?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Herb

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Jun 11 08:01:03 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:01:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] backfire question
Message-ID: <0A4EF1406B7F4282975A9DD8C807F7B7@BASEMENTDELL>

Just an odd observation...if I get a backfire, why would it involve both
carbs?
Plug wires are correct.

Chris

From derf247 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 08:11:52 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:11:52 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] backfire question
In-Reply-To: <0A4EF1406B7F4282975A9DD8C807F7B7@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <0A4EF1406B7F4282975A9DD8C807F7B7@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910906110711n7fc27d82xf1979e37b39bf45@mail.gmail.com>

Because of the crossover tube?


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Chris Manuel<cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:
> Just an odd observation...if I get a backfire, why would it involve both
> carbs?

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Jun 11 08:14:00 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:14:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] backfire question
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910906110711n7fc27d82xf1979e37b39bf45@mail.gmail.com>
References: <0A4EF1406B7F4282975A9DD8C807F7B7@BASEMENTDELL>
	<5f00d9910906110711n7fc27d82xf1979e37b39bf45@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E830E431783348B084DB1B81AB0D7B3B@BASEMENTDELL>

Oh yeah.  DUH.  
Need more caffeine and fresh air

Thanks
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: derf [mailto:derf247 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:12 AM
To: Chris Manuel
Cc: spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] backfire question

Because of the crossover tube?


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Chris Manuel<cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote:
> Just an odd observation...if I get a backfire, why would it involve both
> carbs?

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 11 08:27:59 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:27:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <364c01c9ea8b$d252b840$1801010a@xp>
References: <2ad6c6b10906102107w2f0c594k34bdf98f8944d7c9@mail.gmail.com>,
	<364c01c9ea8b$d252b840$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <4A30B1FF.10495.B0B46@kk7ss.verizon.net>

 I just finished reading an interesting book ,,,
"A year without Made in China"
A family that tried to do just that.
A definite eye-opener.
We don't even make our own peg hooks!!

On 11 Jun 2009 at 7:57, Heard wrote:
>> However, I've started asking and looking for non-China labels for ALL
>> products.  I figure the only way we'll ever get rid of some of this
>> stuff or get the quality up is to stop buying it if possible.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 08:31:08 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:31:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <4A30B1FF.10495.B0B46@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <2ad6c6b10906102107w2f0c594k34bdf98f8944d7c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<364c01c9ea8b$d252b840$1801010a@xp>
	<4A30B1FF.10495.B0B46@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906110731j29826d79ub31784d08407abe7@mail.gmail.com>

>  I just finished reading an interesting book ,,,
> "A year without Made in China"
> A family that tried to do just that.
> A definite eye-opener.
> We don't even make our own peg hooks!!

Before you start feeling too sorry for yourselves, just remember that
this is exactly what the USA did to the rest of the world after WWI...

From JMFarley50 at aol.com  Thu Jun 11 09:16:49 2009
From: JMFarley50 at aol.com (JMFarley50 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:16:49 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] List Problem
Message-ID: <c10.5ea878e8.376279e1@aol.com>

I was on vacation for more than a week in early May and did not disable the
 Spridget List deliveries during that time.  When I returned I had 300 or
so  list e-mails.  While signed on, I received about another 200 delivered at
 one time.  Since that time I have not received anything from the  list.

I went into my Spridget List member options a few days ago and found that
my Mail Delivery was "Disabled".  There was a note that said something
about that there were too many bounce backs.  I re-checked the "Enabled"  box
and still have not received anything.

I sent e-mails to _Spridgets-owner at autox.team.net_
(mailto:Spridgets-owner at autox.team.net)    &  _Mailman-owner at autox.team.net_
(mailto:Mailman-owner at autox.team.net)    and have not received any responses.

Any suggestions about what I should do next to get back on the list?   If
so, you will have to contact me off list for me to receive your  reply.  My
e-mail is _JMFarley50 at aol.com_ (mailto:JMFarley50 at aol.com)

 Thanks,  John
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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Thu Jun 11 09:17:22 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:17:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] air leak? when pulling on throttle cable
Message-ID: <946267908.3559411244733442451.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I drove the midget to work yesterday and it drove home for the most part fine
but towards the end of the ride it had trouble staying above 700rpm at idle
(normal idle 900rpm)B  I stopped for a few moments and when I went to restart
she wouldn't turn over.B  My first thought is the condenser which I will
replace this weekend as well as new points and rotor. But when I went to raise
the idle with the set screw and i pulled the throttle cable to reset it before
I heard the engine accelerate I heard a air leak.B  I have K&N filters that I
put on last summer but have yet to clean them and they might need it (have to
find out how to do that) butB could dirty air cleaners cause this problem?

Ryan

'74 midget

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 11 09:32:16 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:32:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <364c01c9ea8b$d252b840$1801010a@xp>
References: <2ad6c6b10906102107w2f0c594k34bdf98f8944d7c9@mail.gmail.com>
	<364c01c9ea8b$d252b840$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <93B22B2820844A1EBDE0DE637890F41F@Home>

>I figure the only way we'll ever get rid of some of this stuff or
> get the quality up is to stop buying it if possible.

It could get expensive, but we could start sending all obviously substandard 
junk (not fitting, falling apart, etc.) back to the distributors. The 
catalogue companies get away with selling junk because there are no 
consequences.  The same is true of China - they sell cheap junk at a cheap 
price (remember "Made in Japan?") and people keep buying it.  Once it starts 
costing them money, they will improve or find new sources.  And we will pay 
more, because higher quality always costs more.

Michael Rowe

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Jun 11 09:34:13 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:34:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] air leak? when pulling on throttle cable
In-Reply-To: <946267908.3559411244733442451.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <946267908.3559411244733442451.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E8B7D968599E425A847F375EA251BACD@spider>

Besides the problem you're describing; you say when you went to restart it,
"...she wouldn't turn over." If the engine would not turn over with the
starter, you have a starter problem or something is starting to seize.

I think you clean the K&N filters by washing them, then soaking them in oil.

An air leak that is getting worse, could cause idle to drop and engine stop.
Check all carb mounting bolts, and where the intake manifold bolts to the
engine. ...bill in oregon
===================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:17 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] air leak? when pulling on throttle cable

I drove the midget to work yesterday and it drove home for the most part
fine but towards the end of the ride it had trouble staying above 700rpm at
idle(normal idle 900rpm)B  I stopped for a few moments and when I went to
restart she wouldn't turn over. My first thought is the condenser which I
will replace this weekend as well as new points and rotor. But when I went
to raise the idle with the set screw and I pulled the throttle cable to
reset it before I heard the engine accelerate I heard a air leak. I have K&N
filters that I put on last summer but have yet to clean them and they might
need it (have to find out how to do that) but could dirty air cleaners cause
this problem?

Ryan

'74 midget
_______________________________________________

From bighealey at charter.net  Thu Jun 11 09:52:40 2009
From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:52:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re:  Dizzy ID
Message-ID: <20090611115240.YB4TV.88442.root@mp05>

> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:20:01 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dizzy ID
> From: Jeff Schlemmer <distributorguy at gmail.com>
> To: Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net>
> 
> 40656B and 40705 are likely industrial application distributors.  The 40752
> is a common Spridget distributor
> Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:42 AM, Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
> > President AHCUSA              www.healey.org
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Fishbein
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:52 AM
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Dizzy ID
> >
> > Can anyone ID these distributors\?
> > 40656B
> > 40705B
> > 40752A
> >
> > TIA,
> > Jay Fishbein
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
> > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net
> >
> > http://www.team.net/archive
> >
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From cclabaw at juno.com  Thu Jun 11 09:56:53 2009
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:56:53 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive
Message-ID: <20090611.085653.28043.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

Listers -

I found that the oil my 'engine guy' recommended, Kendall GT-1, comes with all
the ZDDP that old engines need.  The composition is shown on their web page.

<http://www.conocophillipslubricants.com/documents/kendall/automotive_engine_
oils/Ken%20GT-1%20High%20Performance%20MO%20TDS%20Web.pdf>

Clay L.
'67 Sprite

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Rick" <refisk at chartermi.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:02:49 -0400

Lookie what I found.  ZDDP (zinc dialkyl dithiophosphate) oil additive for
all of us old car drivers.

http://www.worldofmotorworks.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ZDDPlus

Anybody think it will work?

Rick
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Jun 11 10:50:29 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:50:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] poor starting when hot
In-Reply-To: <1937252478.3587581244736331509.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <E8B7D968599E425A847F375EA251BACD@spider>
	<1937252478.3587581244736331509.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <25DBEBC2C0304313ABB8745350033B0E@spider>

You might want to clean and retighten all of the electrical connections in
that circuit. Check that your battery is up to snuff. Most Spridget owners
tend to keep their batteries a long time. Next would be the starter switch
or whole starter. Start cheap/easy to check; then work into the more
expensive replacements. .bill in oregon

  _____  

From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net [mailto:ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 9:06 AM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] air leak? when pulling on throttle cable

 

Its not the starter its more like she's not getting enough current.  If I
let her sit for a minute or 5 and then as she starts to try and catch i hit
the gas then she turns over and runs.

Ryan

 

============================================================


----- Original Message -----
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:34:13 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] air leak? when pulling on throttle cable

Besides the problem you're describing; you say when you went to restart it,
"...she wouldn't turn over." If the engine would not turn over with the
starter, you have a starter problem or something is starting to seize.

I think you clean the K&N filters by washing them, then soaking them in oil.

An air leak that is getting worse, could cause idle to drop and engine stop.
Check all carb mounting bolts, and where the intake manifold bolts to the
engine. ...bill in oregon
===================================================================

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 10:51:31 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:51:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] air leak? when pulling on throttle cable
In-Reply-To: <946267908.3559411244733442451.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <946267908.3559411244733442451.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906110951v7453143cr7628afd91ee0bfca@mail.gmail.com>

> I have K&N filters that I
> put on last summer but have yet to clean them and they might need it (have to
> find out how to do that) butB could dirty air cleaners cause this problem?

Ryan,
Any place that sells the K&N filters will usually sell the "Filter
Recharger" kit which contains a cleaner, the proper oil, and
instructions. Good for many cleanings.
Your symptoms sound like a vacuum leak, but I think you should start
by determining whether you have spark.

David Lieb

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 11:41:02 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:41:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] poor starting when hot
In-Reply-To: <25DBEBC2C0304313ABB8745350033B0E@spider>
References: <E8B7D968599E425A847F375EA251BACD@spider>
	<1937252478.3587581244736331509.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
	<25DBEBC2C0304313ABB8745350033B0E@spider>
Message-ID: <4333f8140906111041i72389b38m89ba4b077cccdea5@mail.gmail.com>

If you want your K&N filters to work properly DO NOT soak them in oil!  K&N
makes a kit for cleaning their filters.  It consists of a cleaner with which
you soak the filter, then rinse out thoroughly with water.  After the filter
elements have dried (air dried, I believe) you oil them according to the
instructions with the (K&N) oil.  Too much oil ( and, I presume, too heavy
an oil) will reduce the airflow through the filter.
BTW, one potential cause of insufficient starter oomph is battery cables,
replace 'em if they are old or show any signs of corrosion around the
battery terminal.  Don't ask me how I know.


Hal

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: corvallis at peoplepc.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>
>
> I think you clean the K&N filters by washing them, then soaking them in
> oil.

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun 11 12:59:45 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:59:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
Message-ID: <152158.8605.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Just spoke to APT.

Maniflow changed their systems. The pipe to the rear now goes over the rear
axle.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Jon Paschke <Jpaschke at bak.rr.com> wrote:

From: Jon Paschke <Jpaschke at bak.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:41 AM

I have their system on my car too and it is just like Mikes, under the axle,
they must have sent you the wrong part.
Jon



> Jay,
>     I have the Maniflow exhaust system for my Bugeye from APT.  I bought
> mine 3 or 4 years ago, but the system comes from the LCB header to the
> cylindrical muffler straight back under the rear axle. Just a slight bend
so
> it will come up to meet the muffler.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Thu Jun 11 13:09:16 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:09:16 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV508EB50BCAB1F3F5725ADC8420@phx.gbl>

Welcome to the Frank Clarici "if it's made China it bites the big one" club.

Stuff often comes in and is re-packed in non-China labled boxi. You find out when you pull the part from the package and notice a  slant-eye guy sporting a weird hat and a beard, If you look closesly, you'll notice a smile on his face accompanied by some small letters below same which,  roughly translate as...."Now you truly -ucked, American pig",

Huge firm in UK sells engine parts (etc.) for our vintage British sportscars under their own name but actually, import from all over the world and "repackage, inclusive of "quality parts" mfg. in China/India, etc.

I'll remember the name of this firm eventually and report same to the list at
that time, just so everyone will know.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 11 13:10:32 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W235F74585AADE4F7BDE52C2420@phx.gbl>

Hey Dave,

Question, is the engine more or less stock, or has it been hopped up?
Reason I ask is, my 1098 has had some work done to it, head ported, LCB,
and a big cam (don't know the specs or maker).
Mine spits too, especially if I blip the throttle,
but carb guru's Frank and Kevin believe it's due to the cam's overlap.
Other than the spitting, it runs fantastic, faster than a 1098 has a right to
be.


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: kk7ss at verizon.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 16:46:50 -0700
> Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
>
> Continuing the saga; a never ending series - starring me and the many
> DPO's.
>
> Still not able to hold the engine speed abobe 2500rpm without
> spitting back, I decided to strip both cabs at the same time and
> compare the parts from both back and front catbs at the same time (I
> hadn't done that before!)
> Lo and Behold (Poetic - aint I?) the spring from the rear carb was
> 2.4" longer than the front one!  (Insert choice of obligatory swear
> words here!)
> So I took the bits of 4 carbs - both from 1275 motors, and proceeded
> to match the springs, piston drop rates and needles (spring or swing
> type) re-assembled and reset them, then went through the basic tuning
> procedure.
> Result??
> Good idle at 800rpm, pistons rise at the same rate, no miss or
> stumbling, nice pick up when I 'blip' the throttle, runs nice at
> 2000rpm.
> *BUT*
> If I try to hold the rpms anywhere above 2500, the carbs still spit
> back!!
> No manifold leaks, timing spot on, etc., etc., etc..
>
> I'm beginning to suspect low fuel flow at higher rpms is causing it
> to lean out....
> Is there a simple test I can do to check how much the stock pump can
> flow??
> How many ounces of gas in how much time is what I'd ideally like to
> know...
>
> Sorry to be a pest.. and Thanks  ;-))
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
> alive !!
>

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From heard at datatrontech.net  Thu Jun 11 13:12:02 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:12:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <93B22B2820844A1EBDE0DE637890F41F@Home>
References: <2ad6c6b10906102107w2f0c594k34bdf98f8944d7c9@mail.gmail.com><364c01c9ea8b$d252b840$1801010a@xp>
	<93B22B2820844A1EBDE0DE637890F41F@Home>
Message-ID: <36e601c9eac8$80cae870$1801010a@xp>

Yep.  Don't mind paying more to some degree.  There will always be people
who will buy based on price.  I just want a CHOICE once in a while.  No
choice is what gripes my ass. 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:32 AM
To: 'Spridgeteers'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums

>I figure the only way we'll ever get rid of some of this stuff or  get 
>the quality up is to stop buying it if possible.

It could get expensive, but we could start sending all obviously substandard
junk (not fitting, falling apart, etc.) back to the distributors. The
catalogue companies get away with selling junk because there are no
consequences.  The same is true of China - they sell cheap junk at a cheap
price (remember "Made in Japan?") and people keep buying it.  Once it starts
costing them money, they will improve or find new sources.  And we will pay
more, because higher quality always costs more.

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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Thu Jun 11 13:14:13 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:14:13 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV73E61DB5D111BD43EF51CC8420@phx.gbl>

Used to be able to take them out to max of 
7.25 according to my mech but modern brake shoes are a tad more thin then they used to be. So, operationally, maybe just a tad over stock under the circumstances unless you can source what used to be factory shoe thickness.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Thu Jun 11 13:18:15 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:18:15 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV152E2E4C2B30FAD27422DC8420@phx.gbl>

Have you tried  a tad thicker oil  in the "dashpots" for a more rich mix. upon sudden use of the loud pedal, Bri?

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From teachjp at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 13:18:52 2009
From: teachjp at gmail.com (John Poynton)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:18:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 79 midget for sale
Message-ID: <e27b5cac0906111218t6ebbc892u429140831fa74336@mail.gmail.com>

Ladies and gentlemen,
I have come to the point that I am going to sell my 79 midget.  If anyone on
the list knows of anyone in the Philadelphia area who might be interested
would you please have them contact me at
teachjp at gmail.com.
The car is a "special" (stripes, luggage rack, etc.)  Weber downdraft,
headers, 43000 miles.  It has a little surface rust under the sills and the
dash has a crack, but I have the dash cover piece as well as a lot of spare
parts (nothing like some of you have, just misc. brakes and stuff)  I would
like to get $3000 for it, but a bum knee won't let me drive it too much and
its taking up space in the garden shed.
Thanks a lot.
John Poynton

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:16 AM, <JMFarley50 at aol.com> wrote:

> I was on vacation for more than a week in early May and did not disable the
>  Spridget List deliveries during that time.  When I returned I had 300 or
> so  list e-mails.  While signed on, I received about another 200 delivered
> at
>  one time.  Since that time I have not received anything from the  list.
>
> I went into my Spridget List member options a few days ago and found that
> my Mail Delivery was "Disabled".  There was a note that said something
> about that there were too many bounce backs.  I re-checked the "Enabled"
>  box
> and still have not received anything.
>
> I sent e-mails to _Spridgets-owner at autox.team.net_
> (mailto:Spridgets-owner at autox.team.net)    &
>  _Mailman-owner at autox.team.net_
> (mailto:Mailman-owner at autox.team.net)    and have not received any
> responses.
>
> Any suggestions about what I should do next to get back on the list?   If
> so, you will have to contact me off list for me to receive your  reply.  My
> e-mail is _JMFarley50 at aol.com_ (mailto:JMFarley50 at aol.com)
>
>  Thanks,  John
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From abcoz at hky.com  Thu Jun 11 13:30:40 2009
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:30:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive
In-Reply-To: <20090611.085653.28043.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090611.085653.28043.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <387879B7B4A6435DADA1F9C142E98746@OwnerPC>

Clay,
Better tell your "engine guy" to catch up on his reading.  Kendall GT-1 
isn't actually Kendall GT-1 anymore.  It is now made up of whatever base 
stocks Conoco-Phillips happens to find at the best price, rather than the 
Pennsylvania grade base stock that was originally used by Kendall, when they 
were a small, independent refinery that was heavily into racing, back in the 
60s & 70s.
The REAL Kendall GT-1 is still being produced by the original Kendall 
refinery, in Pennsylvania......only they haven't been allowed to call it 
Kendall GT-1 since the name was sold to Conoco-Phillips back in '96.  It is 
now called Penn Grade 1, and is refined by Brad-Penn Refinery, in Bradford, 
PA.  It's the oldest, continuously operating petroleum refinery in the USA, 
and the only one still producing lube oil from Pennsylvania crude base stock 
(Pennsylvania grade crude is only found in a region which includes parts of 
Ohio, New York, and Pennsylvania).  Pennzoil, Quaker State and all the 
others that used that special base stock (which has been proven to be the 
finest lube oil base stock of any in the entire world) have been bought out 
by the big guys, and their names used to sell whatever oil the new owners 
chose to offer in those cans.

Bottom line is that it's not just the "additive package" that makes a good 
engine oil.  It is highly likely that there is a good reason that most of 
(maybe all of them, by now) the major camshaft manufacturers for 
high-performance engines now recommend ONLY Penn Grade 1 oil be used with 
their cam installations.

Like your engine guy, the only oil I ever used in any of my engines (heck, 
even in my lawn & garden equipment, fer cryin' out loud) was Kendall.  I 
strongly resent what Conoco-Phillips is trying to do with the Kendall brand 
(sell inferior product using a once-great name in racing), and I will never 
again purchase another Conoco-Phillips product.

No financial interest, etc.

Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cclabaw at juno.com>
To: <refisk at chartermi.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive


> Listers -
>
> I found that the oil my 'engine guy' recommended, Kendall GT-1, comes with 
> all
> the ZDDP that old engines need.  The composition is shown on their web 
> page.
>
> <http://www.conocophillipslubricants.com/documents/kendall/automotive_engine_
> oils/Ken%20GT-1%20High%20Performance%20MO%20TDS%20Web.pdf>
>
> Clay L.
> '67 Sprite

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Thu Jun 11 13:31:33 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:31:33 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV895B1706C7488F9F7C442C8420@phx.gbl>

"This is exactly what we did to the world after WW1"
============================

China didn't anything to us. Gov't enabled
corp/big biz ("globalization") did it to us.

In any event, we did it to ourselves.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 11 13:35:18 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:35:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
Message-ID: <55625.43460.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Unless originality is your thing, I don't see why you wouldn't want this. It
adds to your ride height lowering ability quite a bit. Infact, if you DON"T
want this, I might take be interested (no muffler, I hope??).

Ron

--- On Thu, 6/11/09, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> From: Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 1:59 PM
> Just spoke to APT.
>
> Maniflow changed their systems. The pipe to the rear now
> goes over the rear
> axle.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT
>
> --- On Thu, 6/11/09, Jon Paschke <Jpaschke at bak.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Jon Paschke <Jpaschke at bak.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 12:41 AM
>
> I have their system on my car too and it is just like
> Mikes, under the axle,
> they must have sent you the wrong part.
> Jon
>
>
>
> > Jay,
> >     I have the Maniflow exhaust
> system for my Bugeye from APT.  I bought
> > mine 3 or 4 years ago, but the system comes from the
> LCB header to the
> > cylindrical muffler straight back under the rear axle.
> Just a slight bend
> so
> > it will come up to meet the muffler.
> > Mike MacLean
> > 60 Sprite
> > 56 BN2
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 11 13:35:32 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:35:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W235F74585AADE4F7BDE52C2420@phx.gbl>
References: <4A2BEEFA.1000.146C383@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<BLU103-W235F74585AADE4F7BDE52C2420@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A30FA14.29049.B76F97@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Brian,

I really don't know... the block has had the engine tag removed and a 
fake number stamped into it...  ;-((

On 11 Jun 2009 at 15:10, brian S wrote:
>> Question, is the engine more or less stock, or has it been hopped up?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 11 13:38:35 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:38:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV152E2E4C2B30FAD27422DC8420@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV152E2E4C2B30FAD27422DC8420@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A30FACB.29944.BA38CF@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Now *there's* a thought...
The spitting on the beast only occurs when holding rpms' above 
~2000...
I'm thinking of seeing what happens if I give it some choke!!!

On 11 Jun 2009 at 19:18, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
>> Have you tried  a tad thicker oil  in the "dashpots" for a more rich
>> mix. upon sudden use of the loud pedal, Bri?

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 14:02:52 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:02:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <4A30FACB.29944.BA38CF@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <BAY118-DAV152E2E4C2B30FAD27422DC8420@phx.gbl>
	<4A30FACB.29944.BA38CF@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906111302m49062c38w3ef3715d3cd4fed4@mail.gmail.com>

> Now *there's* a thought...
> The spitting on the beast only occurs when holding rpms' above
> ~2000...
> I'm thinking of seeing what happens if I give it some choke!!!

If it is "holding rpms", dashpot oil should not affect it.
David L

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 15:09:38 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:09:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] My kind of 2CV
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906111409n135a1e74v98dda814fd338d18@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elAK6yJtpyk

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun 11 15:14:23 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:14:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re:  Dizzy ID
Message-ID: <699786.46995.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Thanks to everyone who provided help with this question.

I have been in touch with Jeff Schlemmer and will probably have him do a unit for this engine.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT
Innocenti Spider
Sprite Mk II
Morris Mini Van

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Jun 11 17:08:04 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:08:04 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <402188520906111302m49062c38w3ef3715d3cd4fed4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY118-DAV152E2E4C2B30FAD27422DC8420@phx.gbl><4A30FACB.29944.BA38CF@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<402188520906111302m49062c38w3ef3715d3cd4fed4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <48F75FAFBED44EA6A9DFF1B89E47C773@BASEMENTDELL>

AIR LEAK somewhere unseen...

Just figured out mine.  Amazing what a small gap would cause.

Still have issues, but now one less on the list.  


Chris
66 MKIII
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:03 PM
To: kk7ss at verizon.net; Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...

> Now *there's* a thought...
> The spitting on the beast only occurs when holding rpms' above
> ~2000...
> I'm thinking of seeing what happens if I give it some choke!!!

If it is "holding rpms", dashpot oil should not affect it.
David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 11 18:17:33 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:17:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <48F75FAFBED44EA6A9DFF1B89E47C773@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <BAY118-DAV152E2E4C2B30FAD27422DC8420@phx.gbl>,
	<402188520906111302m49062c38w3ef3715d3cd4fed4@mail.gmail.com>,
	<48F75FAFBED44EA6A9DFF1B89E47C773@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <4A313C2D.27220.5E10D3@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I think I've lowered the Dam about 2" wioth all the water I've 
sprayed round the intake  <LOL>

On 11 Jun 2009 at 18:08, Chris Manuel wrote:
>> AIR LEAK somewhere unseen...

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 11 18:55:36 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:55:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive
References: <20090611.085653.28043.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
	<387879B7B4A6435DADA1F9C142E98746@OwnerPC>
Message-ID: <1C5FA35507CC475088639CE5E4B16103@Larry>

This is exactly what Charles Navarro from LN Engineering (the guy who got 
the ball rolling on the problems with the lack of ZDDP) said.  The Brad Penn 
costs more than the other stuff -- but less than a new cam.  And, no, he 
doesn't sell Brad Penn.

LAD



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
To: <cclabaw at juno.com>; <refisk at chartermi.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive


Clay,
Better tell your "engine guy" to catch up on his reading.  Kendall GT-1
isn't actually Kendall GT-1 anymore.  It is now made up of whatever base
stocks Conoco-Phillips happens to find at the best price, rather than the
Pennsylvania grade base stock that was originally used by Kendall, when they
were a small, independent refinery that was heavily into racing, back in the
60s & 70s.
The REAL Kendall GT-1 is still being produced by the original Kendall
refinery, in Pennsylvania......only they haven't been allowed to call it
Kendall GT-1 since the name was sold to Conoco-Phillips back in '96.  It is
now called Penn Grade 1, and is refined by Brad-Penn Refinery, in Bradford,
PA.  It's the oldest, continuously operating petroleum refinery in the USA,
and the only one still producing lube oil from Pennsylvania crude base stock
(Pennsylvania grade crude is only found in a region which includes parts of
Ohio, New York, and Pennsylvania).  Pennzoil, Quaker State and all the
others that used that special base stock (which has been proven to be the
finest lube oil base stock of any in the entire world) have been bought out
by the big guys, and their names used to sell whatever oil the new owners
chose to offer in those cans.

Bottom line is that it's not just the "additive package" that makes a good
engine oil.  It is highly likely that there is a good reason that most of
(maybe all of them, by now) the major camshaft manufacturers for
high-performance engines now recommend ONLY Penn Grade 1 oil be used with
their cam installations.

Like your engine guy, the only oil I ever used in any of my engines (heck,
even in my lawn & garden equipment, fer cryin' out loud) was Kendall.  I
strongly resent what Conoco-Phillips is trying to do with the Kendall brand
(sell inferior product using a once-great name in racing), and I will never
again purchase another Conoco-Phillips product.

No financial interest, etc.

Bud Osbourne

From doug_altman at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 11 19:10:38 2009
From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV895B1706C7488F9F7C442C8420@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV895B1706C7488F9F7C442C8420@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <40900.28357.qm@web63502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Went to buy four new tires for my wife's Malibu today.  Tire guy recommended a set of Uniroyals for $325.  I asked if they were made in China.  After a 10 minute search, he said, "Yeah."  I told him to find me a set made in the US.  He sold me a set of Vanderbuilt tires for $430.  You have to make a stand sometime.  Of course, they're a much better, premium tire so I think I got what I paid for.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Thu Jun 11 20:05:33 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:05:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <40900.28357.qm@web63502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY118-DAV895B1706C7488F9F7C442C8420@phx.gbl>
	<40900.28357.qm@web63502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A31B7ED.6090705@comcast.net>

Doug Altman wrote:
> Went to buy four new tires for my wife's Malibu today.  Tire guy recommended a set of Uniroyals for $325.  I asked if they were made in China.  After a 10 minute search, he said, "Yeah."  I told him to find me a set made in the US.  He sold me a set of Vanderbuilt tires for $430.  You have to make a stand sometime.  Of course, they're a much better, premium tire so I think I got what I paid for.
> _______________________________________________
>   

Can you imagine chinese tires!
I thought they recalled all those 2 years ago.
I have never seen anything rubber from china last more than a month.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 11 20:09:05 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 19:09:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <4A31B7ED.6090705@comcast.net>
References: <BAY118-DAV895B1706C7488F9F7C442C8420@phx.gbl>
	<40900.28357.qm@web63502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
	<4A31B7ED.6090705@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906111909x5541fa82pf43595a41afc7f58@mail.gmail.com>

Great comment, Frank.

To prove the point, look how well their condoms work!

Herb


>> _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>
> Can you imagine chinese tires!
> I thought they recalled all those 2 years ago.
> I have never seen anything rubber from china last more than a month.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
>
> _______________________________________________

From abcoz at hky.com  Thu Jun 11 20:57:00 2009
From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:57:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive
In-Reply-To: <1C5FA35507CC475088639CE5E4B16103@Larry>
References: <20090611.085653.28043.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>
	<387879B7B4A6435DADA1F9C142E98746@OwnerPC>
	<1C5FA35507CC475088639CE5E4B16103@Larry>
Message-ID: <BD7BEAE2C2FE4E109E83190B1929F12C@OwnerPC>

Yes, I'm very familiar with Charles and his excellent products.  The guy 
really knows his stuff.  I'm looking forward to sending him some old Porsche 
alloy cylinders to be reconditioned, for my next engine rebuild.
Bud Osbourne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive


> This is exactly what Charles Navarro from LN Engineering (the guy who got
> the ball rolling on the problems with the lack of ZDDP) said.  The Brad 
> Penn
> costs more than the other stuff -- but less than a new cam.  And, no, he
> doesn't sell Brad Penn.
>
> LAD
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz at hky.com>
> To: <cclabaw at juno.com>; <refisk at chartermi.net>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive
>
>
> Clay,
> Better tell your "engine guy" to catch up on his reading.  Kendall GT-1
> isn't actually Kendall GT-1 anymore.  It is now made up of whatever base
> stocks Conoco-Phillips happens to find at the best price, rather than the
> Pennsylvania grade base stock that was originally used by Kendall, when 
> they
> were a small, independent refinery that was heavily into racing, back in 
> the
> 60s & 70s.
> The REAL Kendall GT-1 is still being produced by the original Kendall
> refinery, in Pennsylvania......only they haven't been allowed to call it
> Kendall GT-1 since the name was sold to Conoco-Phillips back in '96.  It 
> is
> now called Penn Grade 1, and is refined by Brad-Penn Refinery, in 
> Bradford,
> PA.  It's the oldest, continuously operating petroleum refinery in the 
> USA,
> and the only one still producing lube oil from Pennsylvania crude base 
> stock
> (Pennsylvania grade crude is only found in a region which includes parts 
> of
> Ohio, New York, and Pennsylvania).  Pennzoil, Quaker State and all the
> others that used that special base stock (which has been proven to be the
> finest lube oil base stock of any in the entire world) have been bought 
> out
> by the big guys, and their names used to sell whatever oil the new owners
> chose to offer in those cans.
>
> Bottom line is that it's not just the "additive package" that makes a good
> engine oil.  It is highly likely that there is a good reason that most of
> (maybe all of them, by now) the major camshaft manufacturers for
> high-performance engines now recommend ONLY Penn Grade 1 oil be used with
> their cam installations.
>
> Like your engine guy, the only oil I ever used in any of my engines (heck,
> even in my lawn & garden equipment, fer cryin' out loud) was Kendall.  I
> strongly resent what Conoco-Phillips is trying to do with the Kendall 
> brand
> (sell inferior product using a once-great name in racing), and I will 
> never
> again purchase another Conoco-Phillips product.
>
> No financial interest, etc.
>
> Bud Osbourne

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 11 21:10:39 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 22:10:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] ZDDP oil additive
In-Reply-To: <1C5FA35507CC475088639CE5E4B16103@Larry>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJOEAMDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<This is exactly what Charles Navarro from LN Engineering (the guy who got
the ball rolling on the problems with the lack of ZDDP) said.>>

He wasn't the only one, Larry.  The is a VERY well penned article from
'07 by Keith Ansell who IS in our 'field' on my site in "Various Articles"
that I recommend ALL read.

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

From davriker at nwi.net  Thu Jun 11 22:04:11 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:04:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
References: <BAY118-DAV895B1706C7488F9F7C442C8420@phx.gbl>
	<40900.28357.qm@web63502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3DB73BE1A5C44094896CD4F6FCA2A054@MAIN>

These days, Chinese tires are high end.  Budget value tires are from Korea 
now.

David R.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Altman" <doug_altman at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums


> Went to buy four new tires for my wife's Malibu today.  Tire guy 
> recommended a set of Uniroyals for $325.  I asked if they were made in 
> China.  After a 10 minute search, he said, "Yeah."  I told him to find me 
> a set made in the US.  He sold me a set of Vanderbuilt tires for $430. 
> You have to make a stand sometime.  Of course, they're a much better, 
> premium tire so I think I got what I paid for.
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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 11 22:48:02 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:48:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Austin Healey Sprite
Message-ID: <6462AFDE95BB4D61853979B64054251A@Home>

http://sfbay.en.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1212657641.html

From grday at btinternet.com  Fri Jun 12 03:16:05 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:16:05 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
References: <BAY118-DAV895B1706C7488F9F7C442C8420@phx.gbl>
	<40900.28357.qm@web63502.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <A151E5041EBA472AA5257F78E6F2D213@dell330>

Please enlighten me if I'm wrong but I don't know of a UniRoyal tire 
manufacturing plant or export setup in China.  UniRoyal export tires to 
China but I can't find any record of them importing UniRoyal tyres to the 
US.
Westlake, Telluride, Compass and YKS  are pure Chinese tires
Eskay Tires are the largest US importers of Chinese tires
Cooper Tire & Rubber, Bridgestone, Goodyear, Firestone, Kuhma, and others 
have bought into or own Chinese tire plants

Perhaps the tire guy went home with a story to tell in the bar and the extra 
bucks to buy a beer?

Guy R Day


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Altman" <doug_altman at yahoo.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums


> Went to buy four new tires for my wife's Malibu today.  Tire guy 
> recommended a set of Uniroyals for $325.  I asked if they were made in 
> China.  After a 10 minute search, he said, "Yeah."  I told him to find me 
> a set made in the US.  He sold me a set of Vanderbuilt tires for $430. 
> You have to make a stand sometime.  Of course, they're a much better, 
> premium tire so I think I got what I paid for.
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun 12 04:02:15 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:02:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 1961 Austin Healey Sprite
In-Reply-To: <6462AFDE95BB4D61853979B64054251A@Home>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJIEBHDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Michael, etal:

Reply to: see below
Date: 2009-06-09, 5:08AM PDT

Thank you,
Jamie SORRY SOLD 

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun 12 04:07:35 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:07:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
In-Reply-To: <A151E5041EBA472AA5257F78E6F2D213@dell330>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJMEBHDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<UniRoyal export tires to China but I can't find any record of them
importing UniRoyal tyres to the US.>>

One of out OLDER (and was respected) brands, Guy.

Back in the late '60s & the '70s, I had numerous
sets<G>!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

PS:  And I SURE wish I still had my '62 Catalina (Pony)
ragtop with Tri-Power & 4 speed<sigh>!!
KILLER at red/green lights < V V V V B G >

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Fri Jun 12 06:35:48 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:35:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Craiglist sprite sold to interesting purchaser
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10906111409n135a1e74v98dda814fd338d18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10906111409n135a1e74v98dda814fd338d18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <62B8E50720A54A3DBFD39E81F365D7C9@CatheyBPC>

This one ( http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/1211030333.html )  was sold 
within 2 hrs of being listed by supposedly Tom SHaughnessy ( 
http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/948 ).  Myself I think the 
purchaser was or is nuts to grab up this car..

Leo 

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 08:52:30 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:52:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Craiglist sprite sold to interesting purchaser
In-Reply-To: <62B8E50720A54A3DBFD39E81F365D7C9@CatheyBPC>
References: <2ad6c6b10906111409n135a1e74v98dda814fd338d18@mail.gmail.com>
	<62B8E50720A54A3DBFD39E81F365D7C9@CatheyBPC>
Message-ID: <4333f8140906120752y27fb20eeo440bb437848fb43b@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting that Ernie McAfee owned the Ferrari in the second link until
1958: he was killed in a crash at Pebble Beach in 1956....
Hal

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:35 AM, ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:

> This one ( http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/1211030333.html )  was sold
> within 2 hrs of being listed by supposedly Tom SHaughnessy (
> http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/948 ).  Myself I think
> the purchaser was or is nuts to grab up this car..
>
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From frogeye at porterscustom.com  Fri Jun 12 09:02:03 2009
From: frogeye at porterscustom.com (Dave Porter)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:02:03 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Craiglist sprite sold to interesting purchaser
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140906120752y27fb20eeo440bb437848fb43b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10906111409n135a1e74v98dda814fd338d18@mail.gmail.com><62B8E50720A54A3DBFD39E81F365D7C9@CatheyBPC>
	<4333f8140906120752y27fb20eeo440bb437848fb43b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AC63FD1948DD47F4A7B4B65061D199EA@oscar>

Hi guys, Dave from over on the Healey list,
 Here's another Craig's List.
 This one is mine: http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/1196335481.html
More details and pictures available off list at my address below.
Thanks for shopping here.
dave

frogeye at porterscustom.com

Porter Customs   2909 Arno NE
Albuquerque, NM USA 87107
505-352-1378
1954 BN2  1959 AN5
Porter Custom Bicycles

cars:
 www.britishcarforum.com/portercustoms.html
gallery:
http://picasaweb.google.com/porterscustombicycles/PorterCustomBicyclesStuff

blog: http://porterbikes.com/

From JMFarley50 at aol.com  Fri Jun 12 09:55:33 2009
From: JMFarley50 at aol.com (JMFarley50 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:55:33 EDT
Subject: [Spridgets] List Problem Follow-up
Message-ID: <bde.48c4a9a7.3763d475@aol.com>

So far I have only received one suggestion per my e-mail for help from
listers yesterday.  That was the possibility that my provider considered my
large amount of e-mails Spam.  I checked my spam controls and this does not
seem to be the case.  Also, I am still not receiving any list  postings.  Am
continuing to receive regular e-mails from other sources,  however.

I am thinking that I may have to "unsubscribe" from the list  then
re-subscribe to get things working again.   Any thoughts on  this?

Thanks,  John

_JMFarley50 at aol.com_ (mailto:JMFarley50 at aol.com)
**************Shop Dellbs full line of Laptops now starting at $349!
(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221881320x1201406166/aol?redir=http
:%2F%2
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From bpazur at excel.net  Fri Jun 12 10:12:42 2009
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:12:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
Message-ID: <200906121612.n5CGCg1O014565@green.excel.net>

How do most folks who have insurance on your Spridget determine the value?
Also, do most folks carry Liability, Comprehensive and Collision, or not all
of those? I feel it's time for me to get some kind of insurance on my Bugeye.
I think I am most interested in Liability and Comprehensive (deer on my
country roads). I don't plan on having an accident, cause I am not in traffic
that often, so do I need Collision?. Lastly, I have all my insurance thru
State Farm, which offers vintage car insurance. Is there any reason not to go
with them?

Thanks for your responses.

Bud Pazur

'60 Bugeye - Mr. White

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Fri Jun 12 10:47:09 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:47:09 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] "Made in China" Bugeye Brake Drums
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV11EE038E77B5A495F1342C8430@phx.gbl>

And just where do you think those 0-rings within those el cheapo Chinese plumbing fixtures come from? (Probably India I guess but what's the diff??! :):)

CB
_______________________________________________   

Can you imagine chinese tires!
I thought they recalled all those 2 years ago.
I have never seen anything rubber from china last more than a month.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
______________________________________________

Oh, yeah? 

Where do you think those little rubber o-rings (guaranteed to fail in short order!:) within those Chinese el cheapo plumbing fixtures come from? :):)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From bighealey at charter.net  Fri Jun 12 10:49:33 2009
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:49:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
In-Reply-To: <200906121612.n5CGCg1O014565@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <5DF1E8A687524CD59261491E5DA4E3B0@TRACY>

Hagerty Insurance

All they do is classics.  They work from agreed value.  I had a claim and
they way more than made it right, easy and allowed me to use the shop of my
choice.

Call em and ask.  As far as I can tell they are the best game in town.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Pazur
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:13 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance

How do most folks who have insurance on your Spridget determine the value?
Also, do most folks carry Liability, Comprehensive and Collision, or not all
of those? I feel it's time for me to get some kind of insurance on my
Bugeye.
I think I am most interested in Liability and Comprehensive (deer on my
country roads). I don't plan on having an accident, cause I am not in
traffic
that often, so do I need Collision?. Lastly, I have all my insurance thru
State Farm, which offers vintage car insurance. Is there any reason not to
go
with them?

Thanks for your responses.

Bud Pazur

'60 Bugeye - Mr. White
You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net

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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 12 11:16:19 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:16:19 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
In-Reply-To: <200906121612.n5CGCg1O014565@green.excel.net>
References: <200906121612.n5CGCg1O014565@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W28B73E0F1E1994F22CED0CB8430@phx.gbl>

You're not planning on having an accident?  I like that. :)



My insurance company requires that an appraisal be done to determine the
value.



I have daily driver insurance on my Midget.  For the Sprite, I just have the
comprehensive, as it is in boxes in my garage and not likely to be in the
wrong in an accident.



> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:12:42 -0500
>
> How do most folks who have insurance on your Spridget determine the value?
> Also, do most folks carry Liability, Comprehensive and Collision, or not
all
> of those? I feel it's time for me to get some kind of insurance on my
Bugeye.
> I think I am most interested in Liability and Comprehensive (deer on my
> country roads). I don't plan on having an accident, cause I am not in
traffic
> that often, so do I need Collision?. Lastly, I have all my insurance thru
> State Farm, which offers vintage car insurance. Is there any reason not to
go
> with them?
>
> Thanks for your responses.
>
> Bud Pazur
>
> '60 Bugeye - Mr. White

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jun 12 11:26:01 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:26:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
Message-ID: <554624.12475.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I try to refrain from participating in these insurance discussions, but.......

I would suggest that listers not restrict themselves to a discussion of how to insure a known quantity which in the case of Spridgets is generally speaking, a $5,000 - $10,000 vehicle but take into consideration the larger picture which is liability and what can happen when you are involved in an accident and someone sues you.

In my experience, people purchase low liability and uninsured motorists protection and put themselves and/or their assets at risk.

If you're insured through an agent such as State Farm, consult with them. OTOH hand if you're insured direct, i.e. through the lizard, AARP, or another online, remote control provider, well.....good luck.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT


--- 
 Lastly, I have all my insurance thru
> State Farm, which offers vintage car insurance. Is there any reason not to
go
> with them?
>
> Thanks for your responses.
>
> Bud Pazur

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Jun 12 11:27:38 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:27:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W28B73E0F1E1994F22CED0CB8430@phx.gbl>
References: <200906121612.n5CGCg1O014565@green.excel.net>,
	<BAY112-W28B73E0F1E1994F22CED0CB8430@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A322D9A.816.B6429E@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Bob,

Are you sure you meant 'comprehensive'??
If it's in boxes you only need 'Fire and Theft'.... it ain't going 
anywhere by itself!!

On 12 Jun 2009 at 17:16, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
>> For the Sprite, I just have the
>> comprehensive, as it is in boxes in my garage and not likely to be in
>> the wrong in an accident.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 12 12:29:12 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:29:12 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
In-Reply-To: <4A322D9A.816.B6429E@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <200906121612.n5CGCg1O014565@green.excel.net>,
	<BAY112-W28B73E0F1E1994F22CED0CB8430@phx.gbl>
	<4A322D9A.816.B6429E@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W43BCA0D8005FEFC22A714BB8430@phx.gbl>

Actually, I'm not sure of the proper name for the coverage that I have.  I
know that I pay next to nothing for it.  the broker knows what condition the
car is in; that it's not going anywhere and that I consider it to have a
predetermined value.  I specifically asked for fire and theft and whatever
else they deemed necessary.  The insurance may overlap the house insurance,
but ... like I say it's next to nothing in cost

This is what I find for a definition of 'comprehensive':
"
Covers your vehicle, and other vehicles (in limited scenarios) you may be
driving for losses resulting from incidents other than collision. For example,
comprehensive insurance covers damage to your car if it is stolen; or damaged
by flood, fire, or animals.
"
> From: kk7ss at verizon.net
>
> Bob,
>
> Are you sure you meant 'comprehensive'??
> If it's in boxes you only need 'Fire and Theft'.... it ain't going
> anywhere by itself!!
>
> On 12 Jun 2009 at 17:16, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
>>> For the Sprite, I just have the
>>> comprehensive, as it is in boxes in my garage and not likely to be in

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Jun 12 12:35:48 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:35:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W43BCA0D8005FEFC22A714BB8430@phx.gbl>
References: <200906121612.n5CGCg1O014565@green.excel.net>,
	<4A322D9A.816.B6429E@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<BAY112-W43BCA0D8005FEFC22A714BB8430@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A323D94.3684.1C3330@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I'll have to check mine for the 'animals' bit....
The backyard of my 'in the city' lot seems to be a highway for Quail, 
Squirrel, Cats and Skunk...  it's the latter that concerns me!!

On 12 Jun 2009 at 18:29, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
>>  stolen; or damaged by flood, fire, or animals.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 12 13:09:47 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:09:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
References: <554624.12475.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1CB9A03C47BD48E0A16E905C36FD35C3@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Fishbein" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance


I try to refrain from participating in these insurance discussions, 
but.......

I would suggest that listers not restrict themselves to a discussion of how 
to insure a known quantity which in the case of Spridgets is generally 
speaking, a $5,000 - $10,000 vehicle but take into consideration the larger 
picture which is liability and what can happen when you are involved in an 
accident and someone sues you.

In my experience, people purchase low liability and uninsured motorists 
protection and put themselves and/or their assets at risk.

If you're insured through an agent such as State Farm, consult with them. 
OTOH hand if you're insured direct, i.e. through the lizard, AARP, or 
another online, remote control provider, well.....good luck.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT


========

And, might I add, get a couple million dollar umbrella policy to go on top 
of your homeowners and car policies.  It's cheap and the normal limits on 
your base policies is a joke.

LAD 

From dwgwater at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 12 13:22:35 2009
From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:22:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
In-Reply-To: <554624.12475.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <554624.12475.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU147-W108D998DFC15E19CC9F474CE430@phx.gbl>

Another two cents on insurance, to amplify Jay's comments.  Make sure you have
plenty of uninsured/underinsured coverage.  Inevitably,the person who hits you
will have little or no coverage.



It's not just the damage you cause to others that you have to worry about
(liability). If you're hurt and have big medical bills and/or can't work, that
coverage has to come from the other guy. Since you can't be sure he has
(enough) insurance, you buy your own coverage to replace what he doesn't have.
That's called uninsured/underinsured coverage.  It's mandatory in Illinois
where I live, but not everywhere.  The loss of your Spridget is unfortunate,
but it's not much compared to what you can lose if you get splattered by an
SUV and can't work or worse.



Dave

> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:26:01 -0700
> From: jfishbein at snet.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
>
> I try to refrain from participating in these insurance discussions,
but.......
>
> I would suggest that listers not restrict themselves to a discussion of how
to insure a known quantity which in the case of Spridgets is generally
speaking, a $5,000 - $10,000 vehicle but take into consideration the larger
picture which is liability and what can happen when you are involved in an
accident and someone sues you.
>
> In my experience, people purchase low liability and uninsured motorists
protection and put themselves and/or their assets at risk.
>
> If you're insured through an agent such as State Farm, consult with them.
OTOH hand if you're insured direct, i.e. through the lizard, AARP, or another
online, remote control provider, well.....good luck.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT
>
>
> ---
> Lastly, I have all my insurance thru
> > State Farm, which offers vintage car insurance. Is there any reason not
to
> go
> > with them?
> >
> > Thanks for your responses.
> >
> > Bud Pazur
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From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jun 12 13:42:11 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:42:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
Message-ID: <127499.53463.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Well said.

Some States only require $10,000 or $20,000 liability coverage. In some cases,
that equates to a visit to the emergency room.

This is another reason why you need someone to explain your options on these
coverages.

For example, when you try to ask a State Specific question to someone at one
of these gorilla-sized 1-800 companies the person on the other end of the
phone who is "licensed" to sell insurance in all 50 states, know little or
nothing about what is available to you in your own state.

For example, in Connecticut, you can purchase uninsured motorists coverage up
to double the limit you carry for liability protection and as an option you
can make it excess over any other collectible insurance.

Some insurance companies actually offer it as an option on their million
dollar Umbrella policies.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Fri, 6/12/09, David Groundwater <dwgwater at hotmail.com> wrote:

From: David Groundwater <dwgwater at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 3:22 PM

Another two cents on insurance, to amplify Jay's comments.  Make sure you
have
plenty of uninsured/underinsured coverage.  Inevitably,the person who hits
you
will have little or no coverage.



It's not just the damage you cause to others that you have to worry about
(liability). If you're hurt and have big medical bills and/or can't work,
that
coverage has to come from the other guy. Since you can't be sure he has
(enough) insurance, you buy your own coverage to replace what he doesn't
have.
That's called uninsured/underinsured coverage.  It's mandatory in Illinois
where I live, but not everywhere.  The loss of your Spridget is unfortunate,
but it's not much compared to what you can lose if you get splattered by an
SUV and can't work or worse.

From mikey at b2systems.com  Fri Jun 12 14:36:58 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:36:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
In-Reply-To: <4A323D94.3684.1C3330@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <200906121612.n5CGCg1O014565@green.excel.net> ,
	<4A322D9A.816.B6429E@kk7ss.verizon.net> ,
	<BAY112-W43BCA0D8005FEFC22A714BB8430@phx.gbl>
	<4A323D94.3684.1C3330@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1244839018.4111.279.camel@WebBrowser>

  One thing to talk to your agent about is that "most" homeowners
policies will NOT cover a car in your garage.  They expect that a car
will be registered and insured under its own policy.
 
 A friend found out the very expensive way that his "under restoration"
car was not insured because the home's policy covered.  Some places
(Hagerty) sells a "restoration policy" so that your car is covered.

 When dealing with insurance, don't ask us, ask your agent VERY SPECIFIC
questions.

	mike

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun 12 16:06:54 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:06:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
In-Reply-To: <1244839018.4111.279.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJOEDHDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<When dealing with insurance, don't ask us, 
ask your agent VERY SPECIFIC questions.>>

Gospel Mike, GOSPEL !!

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 17:36:36 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:36:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Automotive Paint
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906121636y2f7e4b28p33de73061ff08a8@mail.gmail.com>

I was talking with a painter yesterday about having my TR8 painted.

He said I should have it done before the first of next year.  Seems there is
a new law that leaves but one type of automotive paint...WATER BASED!

He's tried it, says it's a bit*& to paint and literally will peel off if you
get a chip.

What have you heard?

Needless to say, think I'll let him 'shoot' it soon.

Herb
Grants Pass, Oregon

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun 12 19:06:29 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:06:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Automotive Paint
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10906121636y2f7e4b28p33de73061ff08a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJAEEBDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Needless to say, think I'll let him 'shoot' it soon.>>

Sooner will be better than later, Herb.

That or yer gonna have to go to a diff. STATE !!!!

<VBG>!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Jun 12 19:21:09 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:21:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
In-Reply-To: <200906121612.n5CGCg1O014565@green.excel.net>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJOEEBDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<How do most folks who have insurance on your 
Spridget determine the value?>>

One of my 'pet peeves', Bud.

As most Listers can tell you, I tell EVERY 'newbie'
LBC Owner - KEEP TRACK OF YOU TIME WHEN
WORKING/FIXING YOUR CAR !!!!!!  Why, you
might ask?!?  

Just because of the question you are asking<G>!!!!

Everybody "should" value their car at a dollar
figure that equals the amount that it would take
to replace it JUST AS IT IS NOW !!!  So keep 
track of your PARTS and TIME ON PAPER so
that IF a bad thing ever occurs, you CAN
PROVE the $ amount !!!  I ALWAYS do on the
Caminos and my LBCs<G>!!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

PS:  Almost forgot to answer yer question<G>!!!
<<I don't plan on having an accident, cause I am 
not in traffic that often, so do I need Collision?.>>

Only takes ONCE, so YES !!!

<<Lastly, I have all my insurance thru State Farm, 
which offers vintage car insurance.>>

Suggest you compare with Haggerty & J.C. Taylor.

PPS:  And I ALWAYS, annually when re-newing,
ADD to car's value;  Healey = $1000.00, MGB =
$500.00 and Current Camino = $1000.00 !!!

From pythias at pacifier.com  Fri Jun 12 20:14:17 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:14:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Proud Dad
Message-ID: <54288032.20090612191417@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

       Some of you met my son Andrew at LotO. Most never will, but I
       have to brag a little on him..

       It's official. He's a Valedictorian at his high school where he
       graduates Saturday. He will be one of three speakers at
       commencement. At the awards assembly held this week, he was
       recognized as the best Science Student, the best Math Student,
       the best Writer, and the best Japanese Student; everything he's
       taking but Ceramics. .. In his previous years he has been the
       best student in the subject in EVERY subject he's taken. He has had
       all the AP classes that are offered, excelling even there. He
       will be attending Harvey Mudd College in the fall, joining his
       sister, who, after two years there has had as much math as a
       University of Washington student graduating with a Math Major.
       He's thinking Chemistry, or Engineering..

       Proud?  YOU BET!

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 20:22:55 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:22:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Proud Dad
In-Reply-To: <54288032.20090612191417@pacifier.com>
References: <54288032.20090612191417@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906121922t3e71093ay8b5e3e689eb734fa@mail.gmail.com>

Bill,

Congratulations to Andrew!!  You have every right to be proud of that young
man!  I was impressed with him in conversation at LotO. He's a great young
man and I expect we will all hear more of him in the future.

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>       Some of you met my son Andrew at LotO. Most never will, but I
>       have to brag a little on him..
>
>       It's official. He's a Valedictorian at his high school where he
>       graduates Saturday. He will be one of three speakers at
>       commencement. At the awards assembly held this week, he was
>       recognized as the best Science Student, the best Math Student,
>       the best Writer, and the best Japanese Student; everything he's
>       taking but Ceramics. .. In his previous years he has been the
>       best student in the subject in EVERY subject he's taken. He has had
>       all the AP classes that are offered, excelling even there. He
>       will be attending Harvey Mudd College in the fall, joining his
>       sister, who, after two years there has had as much math as a
>       University of Washington student graduating with a Math Major.
>       He's thinking Chemistry, or Engineering..
>
>       Proud?  YOU BET!
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
> _______________________________________________
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--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun 12 20:27:08 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:27:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber spring gasket
Message-ID: <B460C36B27DA40B9B774A9D1D9894574@Home>

I pulled the front end off my BE today and found a thick rubber gasket at the top of the coil springs.  It is not shown in the catalogues and may be the reason the front of the car was riding high.  Any ideas what this was supposed to be?  Squeak-stopper maybe?

Michael Rowe
'60 Sprite kit

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 20:44:19 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:44:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Trip
Message-ID: <402188520906121944r77d9cbdci7a6a1c8448451a9e@mail.gmail.com>

Just wanted to let you know that Trish and I have arrived safely in
Crestview Florida. 17-hour 930-mile trip with six fuel stops... It was
50 when we left Chicago (yes, top-down of course) and we managed to
evade all the ornados and thunderstorms (no fault of ours), although
we did get sprinkled at a few times. It was in the 90's through
Alabama and we had to make a couple extra stops to get Trish cooled
down so she didn't get sick. Now to put up with family tomorrow and
head back up Sunday and/or Monday ;-)
David Lieb

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun 12 20:52:52 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:52:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber spring gasket
In-Reply-To: <B460C36B27DA40B9B774A9D1D9894574@Home>
References: <B460C36B27DA40B9B774A9D1D9894574@Home>
Message-ID: <4A331484.7020801@comcast.net>

Michael Rowe wrote:
> I pulled the front end off my BE today and found a thick rubber gasket at the top of the coil springs.  It is not shown in the catalogues and may be the reason the front of the car was riding high.  Any ideas what this was supposed to be?  Squeak-stopper maybe?
>   
DPO installed useless accessory.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 20:59:06 2009
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 22:59:06 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Trip
In-Reply-To: <402188520906121944r77d9cbdci7a6a1c8448451a9e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520906121944r77d9cbdci7a6a1c8448451a9e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8c1781040906121959v49d57152ua543c8ba4b05a0f@mail.gmail.com>

So... Did you go through Louisville?  I don't recall hearing a beep, beep.

Cheers,
Trevor

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:44 PM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wanted to let you know that Trish and I have arrived safely in
> Crestview Florida. 17-hour 930-mile trip with six fuel stops... It was
> 50 when we left Chicago (yes, top-down of course) and we managed to
> evade all the ornados and thunderstorms (no fault of ours), although
> we did get sprinkled at a few times. It was in the 90's through
> Alabama and we had to make a couple extra stops to get Trish cooled
> down so she didn't get sick. Now to put up with family tomorrow and
> head back up Sunday and/or Monday ;-)
> David Lieb

From dwramsey at att.net  Fri Jun 12 21:41:57 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:41:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Trip
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040906121959v49d57152ua543c8ba4b05a0f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090613034205.CC3A418788F@autox.team.net>

As I recall it would be more like a bleet, bleet.
		Crash

So... Did you go through Louisville?  I don't recall hearing a beep, beep.

Cheers,
Trevor

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:44 PM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wanted to let you know that Trish and I have arrived safely in
> Crestview Florida. 17-hour 930-mile trip with six fuel stops... It was
> 50 when we left Chicago (yes, top-down of course) and we managed to
> evade all the ornados and thunderstorms (no fault of ours), although
> we did get sprinkled at a few times. It was in the 90's through
> Alabama and we had to make a couple extra stops to get Trish cooled
> down so she didn't get sick. Now to put up with family tomorrow and
> head back up Sunday and/or Monday ;-)
> David Lieb

From davriker at nwi.net  Fri Jun 12 22:24:52 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:24:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance
References: <127499.53463.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <207BF4922D9744D8993E7DDB9B09BF0D@MAIN>

I am finding out more than I wanted to know about insurance when it is 
someone elses fault.  In Washington State, they offer what is called PIP, 
personal injury protection.  I had never heard of it.  It pays out when the 
other driver is at fault.  Not to be confused with uninsured/underinsured 
motorist coverage.  I couldn't understand why this would matter if the other 
party was at fault.  Now that I've been in an accident I know.  The insured 
party's policy will only pay out AFTER YOU SETTLE!  So, while I am waiting 
to heal, going to consults, visiting various doctors, the ambulance ride, 
emergency room, specialists, etc have far exceeded the wimpy $2000 limit on 
my PIP policy, and the bills are going unpaid.  I refuse to settle until the 
full extent of medical services, treatment, and level of permanant damage I 
have sustained are known.  If your state works like this MAX OUT YOUR PIP 
LIMITS!

David R.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Fishbein" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Insurance


> Well said.
>
> Some States only require $10,000 or $20,000 liability coverage. In some 
> cases,
> that equates to a visit to the emergency room.
>
> This is another reason why you need someone to explain your options on 
> these
> coverages.
>
> For example, when you try to ask a State Specific question to someone at 
> one
> of these gorilla-sized 1-800 companies the person on the other end of the
> phone who is "licensed" to sell insurance in all 50 states, know little or
> nothing about what is available to you in your own state.

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sat Jun 13 02:44:14 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:44:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Automotive Paint
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10906121636y2f7e4b28p33de73061ff08a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2ad6c6b10906121636y2f7e4b28p33de73061ff08a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03130906130144p6f23909eq88b22c2a5a6e110d@mail.gmail.com>

It's wierd.  Here in California the paint is now water based, but you can
clear coat with acrylic lacquer over it.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:36 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I was talking with a painter yesterday about having my TR8 painted.
>
> He said I should have it done before the first of next year.  Seems there
> is
> a new law that leaves but one type of automotive paint...WATER BASED!
>
> He's tried it, says it's a bit*& to paint and literally will peel off if
> you
> get a chip.
>
> What have you heard?
>
> Needless to say, think I'll let him 'shoot' it soon.
>
> Herb
> Grants Pass, Oregon
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jun 13 05:40:53 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:40:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber spring gasket
In-Reply-To: <B460C36B27DA40B9B774A9D1D9894574@Home>
References: <B460C36B27DA40B9B774A9D1D9894574@Home>
Message-ID: <02E1C3CC6C134C1F8563B104A013339C@spider>

I have seen these as squeak stoppers, and road noise dampers. ...bill in
oregon
============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:27 PM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Rubber spring gasket

I pulled the front end off my BE today and found a thick rubber gasket at
the top of the coil springs.  It is not shown in the catalogues and may be
the reason the front of the car was riding high.  Any ideas what this was
supposed to be?  Squeak-stopper maybe?

Michael Rowe
'60 Sprite kit
_______________________________________________

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 06:37:02 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 07:37:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Trip
In-Reply-To: <E7DB8C7B-9588-463D-8406-AFE7505F84AC@me.com>
References: <402188520906121944r77d9cbdci7a6a1c8448451a9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<E7DB8C7B-9588-463D-8406-AFE7505F84AC@me.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906130537v7a712c5fj5a33f891398b970b@mail.gmail.com>

Trevor,
It is hard enough to hear the horn when you are in front of the car,
let alone in that Louisville traffic ;-)
I will wave as I drive back through.
David

From cbaustin at verizon.net  Sat Jun 13 10:43:51 2009
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:43:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] California visit assistance, no LBC
Message-ID: <82623D4DEC4944768F710FA31D1BA907@universal1>

    Looking for some guidance here; family members will be visiting San Diego
(Ramona) area in August. There are two hotel possibilities; Rancho Bernardo or
Escondido (Holiday Inns).

    Any plusses or minuses?

    Thanks in advance, regards,

                                                                CB

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 13:15:30 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:15:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Water Based Paint
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906131215n23dba572g9c1af20aaf2de3a5@mail.gmail.com>

I can vouch for Auto Air colors, they hold down incredibly well.   You can
do tape outs over them much sooner after shooting than with urethanes or
acrylic lacquers.

I have never had a problem with them nor have seen them peel out in large
sections if hit.

Great tenacity. .

I paint everyday full time with a booth I built on my property.   Mostly am
shooting nitro lacquer on vintage guitars.   I have also shot a lot of
Harley tanks and fenders with two stage urethanes.

Kirk

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 14:29:44 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:29:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Proud Dad
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906121922t3e71093ay8b5e3e689eb734fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54288032.20090612191417@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0906121922t3e71093ay8b5e3e689eb734fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430906131329w3cb7e25epcfaed9563917b1b@mail.gmail.com>

Congratulations Andrew you have made your dad proud : )
Lin

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Congratulations to Andrew!!  You have every right to be proud of that young
> man!  I was impressed with him in conversation at LotO. He's a great young
> man and I expect we will all hear more of him in the future.
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello Spridgets,
> >
> >       Some of you met my son Andrew at LotO. Most never will, but I
> >       have to brag a little on him..
> >
> >       It's official. He's a Valedictorian at his high school where he
> >       graduates Saturday. He will be one of three speakers at
> >       commencement. At the awards assembly held this week, he was
> >       recognized as the best Science Student, the best Math Student,
> >       the best Writer, and the best Japanese Student; everything he's
> >       taking but Ceramics. .. In his previous years he has been the
> >       best student in the subject in EVERY subject he's taken. He has had
> >       all the AP classes that are offered, excelling even there. He
> >       will be attending Harvey Mudd College in the fall, joining his
> >       sister, who, after two years there has had as much math as a
> >       University of Washington student graduating with a Math Major.
> >       He's thinking Chemistry, or Engineering..
> >
> >       Proud?  YOU BET!
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
> >
> >  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
> > _______________________________________________
> > Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
> not
> sure about the former.  - Albert Einstein
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 15:10:12 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:10:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting new leak
In-Reply-To: <4A304419.6070802@comcast.net>
References: <4A304419.6070802@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430906131410t5f5302d9q5b4db8a79a109f4@mail.gmail.com>

Frank is that black goop supposed to seal the leak if so what is it?
Lin

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:39 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> The Lady Bug has had a tranny oil leak since it was finished.
> We determined that it was coming out of the new rear tranny seal.
> But the seal was new.
> So I finally put it up on my son's lift and took a good look at it.
> Yes, it was coming from the rear seal but NOT out of the back of the seal.
> You know, where seals are supposed to leak.
> So I think maybe from the bottom of the shifter remote dripping on the tail
> shaft and around the seal.
> Nope.
> It was leaking from where the seal meets the tranny, where it gets crimped.
> Now there is not supposed to be a leak there and the seal went on nice and
> tight when I put it on and yes I crimped it in 3 places as original
> with service tool # G-101 (aka a BFH and a screw driver)
> So I cleaned off all the oil and put some black goop  (not silicone) I
> found in the kid's garage around where the metal seal meets the metal
> tranny.
> So far, so good.
> Now back out to put the needle back on the speedometer and see if maybe a
> voltage stabilizer will cure the always full gas gauge.
> (later tank and gauge)
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 13 15:15:25 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:15:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting new leak
In-Reply-To: <205cef430906131410t5f5302d9q5b4db8a79a109f4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A304419.6070802@comcast.net>
	<205cef430906131410t5f5302d9q5b4db8a79a109f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A3416ED.2040407@comcast.net>

Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> Frank is that black goop supposed to seal the leak if so what is it?
I  found the tube in my son's garage, it was marked Toyota oil pan and 
cam cover sealant.
And it was not silicone but it stopped the leak.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 15:18:51 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:18:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" official logo
 and poster!
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906131418vf19aca7s4975249ab4cabd6b@mail.gmail.com>

Spridgeteers,

The judges have decided!  The official logo and poster can now be viewed at
the club website. A few minor changes will be made to the poster in order
for it to fit into the print format. Please join me in thanking our 15
judges for selecting the beautiful graphic work of fellow President Gerard
Chateauvieux!

http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org

--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 15:29:55 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:29:55 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] fitting bugeye grille
In-Reply-To: <DEE11457-DF28-4348-90D3-F3C136B1C559@verizon.net>
References: <DEE11457-DF28-4348-90D3-F3C136B1C559@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430906131429m3248c383v41fe67a652b550a7@mail.gmail.com>

Phil pics look nice : )
Lin

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> The original bugeye grille had a stud top dead center just below the bonnet
> badge.  When doing the metal work on my bonnet the shop welded up the hole.
>
> My options are to cut off the stud which I really don't want to do or drill
> open the hole.
>
> Will I be able to drill thru the weld?  If so how do I get a pilot hole in
> there to locate the hole?  I really don't want to mess up a beautiful paint
> job.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/<http://home.comcast.net/%7Ephilnasecpa/>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jun 13 15:31:21 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:31:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting new leak
In-Reply-To: <4A3416ED.2040407@comcast.net>
References: <4A304419.6070802@comcast.net><205cef430906131410t5f5302d9q5b4db8a79a109f4@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A3416ED.2040407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <F057EDC2E53349B9B47CCEA193C899AC@spider>

Permatex makes a Black Adhesive Sealant #16B, but it is silicon. ...bill in
oregon
======================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:15 PM
To: Linda Grunthaner
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Interesting new leak

Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> Frank is that black goop supposed to seal the leak if so what is it?
I  found the tube in my son's garage, it was marked Toyota oil pan and 
cam cover sealant.
And it was not silicone but it stopped the leak.
-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
_______________________________________________

From wmseverin at charter.net  Sat Jun 13 17:08:08 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:08:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] is there a plumber in the house?
Message-ID: <004101c9ec7b$d12b05c0$73811140$@net>

New Thicko shop. has 2 toilets in it, a "man's" and a "woman's". The woman's
bathroom is larger, and I am considering replacing the toilet in it and
putting in a shower. (Concrete floors).

 

So, how do I replace the toilet and add a shower in that space?

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 17:27:31 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:27:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" official
 logo and poster!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906131418vf19aca7s4975249ab4cabd6b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43840a7e0906131418vf19aca7s4975249ab4cabd6b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430906131627v4eb55a79na2e00553b660745@mail.gmail.com>

I like em : )
Lin

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Spridgeteers,
>
> The judges have decided!  The official logo and poster can now be viewed at
> the club website. A few minor changes will be made to the poster in order
> for it to fit into the print format. Please join me in thanking our 15
> judges for selecting the beautiful graphic work of fellow President Gerard
> Chateauvieux!
>
> http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org
>
> --
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
> Sprite-Midget Club USA
>  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
> not sure about the former.  - Albert Einstein
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 18:02:39 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:02:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Proud Dad
In-Reply-To: <205cef430906131329w3cb7e25epcfaed9563917b1b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54288032.20090612191417@pacifier.com>
	<43840a7e0906121922t3e71093ay8b5e3e689eb734fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<205cef430906131329w3cb7e25epcfaed9563917b1b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906131702r72e3651ev576938c70e4f9cb8@mail.gmail.com>

>> >       Some of you met my son Andrew at LotO. Most never will, but I
>> >       have to brag a little on him..
>> >
>> >       It's official. He's a Valedictorian at his high school where he
>> >       graduates Saturday. He will be one of three speakers at
>> >       commencement. At the awards assembly held this week, he was
>> >       recognized as the best Science Student, the best Math Student,
>> >       the best Writer, and the best Japanese Student; everything he's
>> >       taking but Ceramics. .. In his previous years he has been the
>> >       best student in the subject in EVERY subject he's taken. He has
had
>> >       all the AP classes that are offered, excelling even there. He
>> >       will be attending Harvey Mudd College in the fall, joining his
>> >       sister, who, after two years there has had as much math as a
>> >       University of Washington student graduating with a Math Major.
>> >       He's thinking Chemistry, or Engineering..
>> >
>> >       Proud?  YOU BET!


Curve breaker!
Good job.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 18:35:23 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 20:35:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ...... for guitar fans ; )
Message-ID: <205cef430906131735x778dedfapd78d39f170cfecb6@mail.gmail.com>

This site is of bass guitars that a guy in the VW forums makes. These
guitars are a work-of-art and I know a few of you guys are real guitar
appreciator's and many others would enjoy to see. I can't play my bass well
at all but I would frame one of these babies because they are so beautiful.
He makes everything but some of the hardware by hand.
Enjoy:
http://www.ellabasses.com/
Lin

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Sat Jun 13 19:21:07 2009
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:21:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] A series / A+
Message-ID: <919373.2342.qm@web50611.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Greetings,

can anyone tell me if A+ crank pulleys will go on A series cranks?

If so would this include 98 to 2000 rover minis with the poly-V belt pulley?

given the demise of rover shortly after, i am doubting these pulleys are
available, but if anyone knows otherwise..i'd be interested to hear about it.

Andy
Australia





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From wmseverin at charter.net  Sat Jun 13 21:35:03 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:35:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Thicko shop automotive past
Message-ID: <007f01c9eca1$1a8651f0$4f92f5d0$@net>

The "new" Thicko shop. well, I'm about 95% done with the move. Having
somewhat of a plan has helped with the organization of the new place. It's
10 miles from my place at Green Lake. not nearly as convenient as 160' away
from the house at the farm, but it's gonna work out just fine. The move was
a monumental undertaking, and my ass is draggin'.

 

The place has a very interesting automotive history. My landlord, Art
Herschberger, owned Fitch Sprint, Solar Automotive, and the Blakely car
company. and the Thicko shop was the home for all of that. Art was from my
home town of Libertyville, IL, and was friends with friends of our up at
Green Lake back in the 70's.

From wmseverin at charter.net  Sun Jun 14 05:08:45 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 06:08:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Charitible event
Message-ID: <001201c9ece0$7c183340$744899c0$@net>

To all,

 

I'm the lead trumpet/vocalist/music director of a big band, "the SwingTime
Big Band" in Appleton, WI. The group has members from 17 to 87 (yes, 87).

 

We're doing a benefit today for a little guy I thought you ought to be aware
of, if you have the capacity to help in any way.

 

http://www.forissy.blogspot.com/

 

http://www.communitybenefittree.org/communitybt/home/celebration+of+support+
events/israel+issy+avila+cos+event.asp

 

 

Thanks. 

 

WST

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun 14 06:15:41 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:15:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Thicko shop automotive past
In-Reply-To: <007f01c9eca1$1a8651f0$4f92f5d0$@net>
References: <007f01c9eca1$1a8651f0$4f92f5d0$@net>
Message-ID: <303682166FBC4C83BD9AABB7AAD87C4D@spider>

Was that John Fitch of the Fitch Bitch?

======================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:35 PM
To: 'Spridgets'; team-thicko at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] New Thicko shop automotive past

 

The "new" Thicko shop. well, I'm about 95% done with the move. Having

somewhat of a plan has helped with the organization of the new place. It's

10 miles from my place at Green Lake. not nearly as convenient as 160' away

from the house at the farm, but it's gonna work out just fine. The move was

a monumental undertaking, and my ass is draggin'.

 

The place has a very interesting automotive history. My landlord, Art

Herschberger, owned Fitch Sprint, Solar Automotive, and the Blakely car

company. and the Thicko shop was the home for all of that. Art was from my

home town of Libertyville, IL, and was friends with friends of our up at

Green Lake back in the 70's.

_______________________________________________

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 06:35:46 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 08:35:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
Message-ID: <205cef430906140535m30c9f6cax3f858af85d106035@mail.gmail.com>

Ebay #220434107622

Is that sway bar in the correct place?

From wmseverin at charter.net  Sun Jun 14 08:01:31 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:01:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Thicko shop automotive past
In-Reply-To: <303682166FBC4C83BD9AABB7AAD87C4D@spider>
References: <007f01c9eca1$1a8651f0$4f92f5d0$@net>
	<303682166FBC4C83BD9AABB7AAD87C4D@spider>
Message-ID: <003701c9ecf8$9f2a3dc0$dd7eb940$@net>

This John Fitch

http://www.forissy.blogspot.com/

Art bought the business from John. Then got into the Blakely car company. He
went broke in the car business, but got back into the LP gas biz and did
very well.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:16 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Thicko shop automotive past
> 
> Was that John Fitch of the Fitch Bitch?

From wmseverin at charter.net  Sun Jun 14 08:31:49 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:31:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] New Thicko shop automotive past
In-Reply-To: <303682166FBC4C83BD9AABB7AAD87C4D@spider>
References: <007f01c9eca1$1a8651f0$4f92f5d0$@net>
	<303682166FBC4C83BD9AABB7AAD87C4D@spider>
Message-ID: <004401c9ecfc$daab6870$90023950$@net>

Fitch Bitch pictured here, and yes, same John Fitch.

http://www.velocetoday.com/people/people_56.php



> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:16 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Thicko shop automotive past
> 
> Was that John Fitch of the Fitch Bitch?

From jfishbein at snet.net  Sun Jun 14 08:33:45 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:33:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
Message-ID: <275294.60587.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

" All of the hard work has been done."
 
>From his description it shounds like all the hard work hasn't yet begun.
 
Jay FIshbein
Wallingford, ct


--- On Sun, 6/14/09, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
To: "Spridget list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 8:35 AM


Ebay #220434107622

Is that sway bar in the correct place?

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun 14 10:04:21 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:04:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Downshift "Rs"?
Message-ID: <1234742810.20090614090421@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

  At what rpm to downshift? That is, what is the lowest cruising RPM
  that people are using with which engine?

  will 948s cruise/lug at a lower or higher rpm than 1275s?

  will the torque of 1098s let them go lower yet?

  I'm more interested in actual practice than theory.

  ???????????????  ?????????????   ??????????????

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
      * "OK, you can borrow it again," Tom relented.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 14 10:19:47 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:19:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] is there a plumber in the house?
Message-ID: <821748.24985.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I don't claim any expertise, but here goes...  Turn off the water, flush the
toilet, unscrew the line in, remove the tank, unscrew the two bolts holding it
to the floor, haul it away.  Then figure out and do whatever it takes to
re-route the water (and add the hot water plumbing) up the wall.  Decide if
you want to buy a ready-made free-standing stall or build real walls or hang a
curtain.  Buy or build the shower stall.  You will probably need to be build
up the floor to put in a trap and utilize the same drain the toilet used
(since you said the floor is concrete).  Or you could call a plumber or a
plumber and a carpenter, and write checks.
 
Enjoy,
David Booker
Living in a 70+ yr. old house I did almost all the renovations on myself...
Long Island
 

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, Wm. Severin Thompson <wmseverin at charter.net> wrote:


From: Wm. Severin Thompson <wmseverin at charter.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] is there a plumber in the house?
To: "'Spridgets'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 6:08 PM


New Thicko shop. has 2 toilets in it, a "man's" and a "woman's". The woman's
bathroom is larger, and I am considering replacing the toilet in it and
putting in a shower. (Concrete floors).



So, how do I replace the toilet and add a shower in that space?
You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com

http://www.team.net/archive

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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun 14 10:32:55 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:32:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] New Thicko shop automotive past
In-Reply-To: <004401c9ecfc$daab6870$90023950$@net>
References: <007f01c9eca1$1a8651f0$4f92f5d0$@net>
	<303682166FBC4C83BD9AABB7AAD87C4D@spider>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wm. Severin Thompson [mailto:wmseverin at charter.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:32 AM
To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] New Thicko shop automotive past

Fitch Bitch pictured here, and yes, same John Fitch.

http://www.velocetoday.com/people/people_56.php

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> -----Original Message-----
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> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:16 AM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
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> 
> Was that John Fitch of the Fitch Bitch?

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 10:47:53 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:47:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Downshift "Rs"?
In-Reply-To: <1234742810.20090614090421@pacifier.com>
References: <1234742810.20090614090421@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430906140947q4c32f39k7f274f5025f80177@mail.gmail.com>

Cool question lets toss in a 1275 too : )
Lin

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Bill L <pythias at pacifier.com> wrote:

> Hello Spridgets,
>
>  At what rpm to downshift? That is, what is the lowest cruising RPM
>  that people are using with which engine?
>
>  will 948s cruise/lug at a lower or higher rpm than 1275s?
>
>  will the torque of 1098s let them go lower yet?
>
>  I'm more interested in actual practice than theory.
>
>  ???????????????  ?????????????   ??????????????
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
>
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 14 12:15:51 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:15:51 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Downshift "Rs"?
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV80F5B069F1B4575ADD35AC8410@phx.gbl>

In stock form....

most torquey = more luggabiltiy but, loading the motor in this respect reduces bearing service life.

The 948 is least torquey, followed by the (longer stroke 1098) which is almost as
torquey (in the lower range) as the 1275, there being a few ft lbs difference between
the later two motors in this respect. 

Keep them at or above 2500rpm except for light pedal cruse at 2k, use nothing below (especially for the less torquey 948) and all should go well in terms of service life, all other factors being equal.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill L
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 12:04 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Downshift "Rs"?

Hello Spridgets,

  At what rpm to downshift? That is, what is the lowest cruising RPM
  that people are using with which engine?

  will 948s cruise/lug at a lower or higher rpm than 1275s?

  will the torque of 1098s let them go lower yet?

  I'm more interested in actual practice than theory.

  ???????????????  ?????????????   ??????????????

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
      * "OK, you can borrow it again," Tom relented.
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 14 12:24:02 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:24:02 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] A series / A+
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV9D3F4686275956EF5D6E1C8410@phx.gbl>

email www.aptfast.com 

.................they ought to know.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Webster
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:21 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] A series / A+

Greetings,

can anyone tell me if A+ crank pulleys will go on A series cranks?

If so would this include 98 to 2000 rover minis with the poly-V belt pulley?

given the demise of rover shortly after, i am doubting these pulleys are
available, but if anyone knows otherwise..i'd be interested to hear about it.

Andy
Australia





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From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun 14 17:14:53 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:14:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Saga of the Miss...
Message-ID: <1026034377.20090614161453@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

      I thought I had the miss fixed after changing the cap, rotor and
      wires. It ran perfectly--for a while-- then it came back again.
      Why, when I don't actually take care of the problem, does it
      keep coming back? That is, If what I changed wasn't the problem
      why will it get better at all?.. At any rate I finally had a
      little time today, so I took two people's advice and tried two
      things.. New plugs, even thought he old ones look fine and are
      of near perfect tan color, AND took off the suction chambers and
      checked for "drag". the rear carb piston  was indeed hanging up near the
      bottom of the suction chamber. I took a clean rag and wiped it
      all out, (I thought about using SCOTCH BRITE but was afraid of
      "sanding down" something that is supposed to be a machined fit?)
      so the piston falls smoothly right on out, then put it all back
      together.
      Took a test drive and all is well.. .. again...

      for now........?????

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  Charlie was a Chemist, but Charlie is no more. What Charlie thought was H20 was H2SO4 

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Sun Jun 14 17:37:50 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:37:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Saga of the Miss...
In-Reply-To: <1026034377.20090614161453@pacifier.com>
References: <1026034377.20090614161453@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <90DF0F512E514C4B9C5F2DB2CFBFCDB6@BASEMENTDELL>

Moon phase.  We're coming off/waning off of a full moon.

I'm there with you.  Jets/pistons are where they are, but one day it decides
to idle at 2k, but its not due to the accelerator or cable. 

Chris

66MKIII with a 1098ish

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 6:15 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Saga of the Miss...

Hello Spridgets,

      I thought I had the miss fixed after changing the cap, rotor and
      wires. It ran perfectly--for a while-- then it came back again.
      Why, when I don't actually take care of the problem, does it
      keep coming back? That is, If what I changed wasn't the problem
      why will it get better at all?.. At any rate I finally had a
      little time today, so I took two people's advice and tried two
      things.. New plugs, even thought he old ones look fine and are
      of near perfect tan color, AND took off the suction chambers and
      checked for "drag". the rear carb piston  was indeed hanging up near
the
      bottom of the suction chamber. I took a clean rag and wiped it
      all out, (I thought about using SCOTCH BRITE but was afraid of
      "sanding down" something that is supposed to be a machined fit?)
      so the piston falls smoothly right on out, then put it all back
      together.
      Took a test drive and all is well.. .. again...

      for now........?????

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
  Charlie was a Chemist, but Charlie is no more. What Charlie thought was
H20 was H2SO4 

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 17:39:15 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:39:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>

Undeneath a Sprite, at least a Frog Aye, I notice these little scoop like
pieces that are welded to the bottom.

They look like they could be used to slide something into them.  I guess the
best way to "splain" them is that they look like miniature hood scoops on
the bottom of the car, about an inch or so in length.

Does anyone know why the motor company went through the trouble to weld
these little scoops in place?

Thanks. . .

Kirk
59 1275

From refisk at chartermi.net  Sun Jun 14 17:42:00 2009
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:42:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
References: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00bc01c9ed49$b67adab0$6401a8c0@refisk>

The "scoops" are located under drain holes in the floor.  The scoops are 
actually shields that let water drain out, but keep it from coming in when 
you drive through a puddle.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:39 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside


> Undeneath a Sprite, at least a Frog Aye, I notice these little scoop like
> pieces that are welded to the bottom.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 17:45:10 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:45:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906141645i51a4d5h8c3b28fb2dbc0ad4@mail.gmail.com>

Kirk,

That's where the rustmites live....   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Undeneath a Sprite, at least a Frog Aye, I notice these little scoop like
> pieces that are welded to the bottom.
>
> They look like they could be used to slide something into them.  I guess
> the
> best way to "splain" them is that they look like miniature hood scoops on
> the bottom of the car, about an inch or so in length.
>
> Does anyone know why the motor company went through the trouble to weld
> these little scoops in place?
>
> Thanks. . .
>
> Kirk
> 59 1275
> ___________

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 18:55:43 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:55:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906141755o34f145bta14998f75c8269a5@mail.gmail.com>

Pee-Tube slot!

Na, they're to allow water to drain out.

Herb

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 19:03:19 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:03:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10906141755o34f145bta14998f75c8269a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>
	<2ad6c6b10906141755o34f145bta14998f75c8269a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906141803s4f74016eo15e0e3ed2dc6aaa1@mail.gmail.com>

Like I said, Herb....    Where the rustmites live...    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:55 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Pee-Tube slot!
>
> Na, they're to allow water to drain out.
>
> Herb

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jun 14 19:05:19 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:05:19 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10906141755o34f145bta14998f75c8269a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>,
	<2ad6c6b10906141755o34f145bta14998f75c8269a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A353BDF.1369.F06C2E@kk7ss.verizon.net>

They have the same things on the underside trailing edge of fabric 
covered light aircraft.
The air rushing past the creates a small vacuum which helps suck 
moisture out of the area....
BTDT...  ;-))    Aah, memories... legally getting high   <VBG>

On 14 Jun 2009 at 17:55, WFO Herb wrote:

>> Na, they're to allow water to drain out.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 14 20:01:00 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:01:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
In-Reply-To: <275294.60587.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <275294.60587.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A35AB5C.4040006@comcast.net>

Jay Fishbein wrote:
> " All of the hard work has been done."
>  
> >From his description it shounds like all the hard work hasn't yet begun.
>  
>   
And it's full of moss crap.

-- 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 14 20:09:21 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:09:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A35AD51.1070805@comcast.net>

Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
> Undeneath a Sprite, at least a Frog Aye, I notice these little scoop like
> pieces that are welded to the bottom.
>
>   
They are "supposed" to let moisture out but they fill up with dirt and 
breed those rust mites.
Tin worms like those slots too.
It you look on top of them, there is the "hat track" frame rail, thus 
the need for the vents under it.
It all worked great on paper.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 14 20:13:35 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:13:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hellertown
Message-ID: <4A35AE4F.8000800@comcast.net>

To all who were there, we made it home with all 3 cars with no problems.
A big congratulations to Phil Nase for taking home FIRST place on his 
maiden run and first show with his bugeye.
And I do not think I have seen so many RED Bugeyes in one spot, I don't 
think there were 6 red bugeyes at LotO but out of 9 Sprites, 6 were red 
Bugeyes today, there was a red MKII, a black MKII and my green MKIV
Great show, and Jane and Phil did a very nice job on the bar-b-que after 
the show.
Thanks Phil & Jane

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From bkitterer at me.com  Sun Jun 14 20:39:12 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:39:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Downshift "Rs"?
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV80F5B069F1B4575ADD35AC8410@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV80F5B069F1B4575ADD35AC8410@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <24D281CE-4924-4415-A964-B28D8C497795@me.com>

I'll second that.

How are you doing Bob?

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 14, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote:

> In stock form....
>
> most torquey = more luggabiltiy but, loading the motor in this  
> respect reduces bearing service life.
>
> The 948 is least torquey, followed by the (longer stroke 1098) which  
> is almost as
> torquey (in the lower range) as the 1275, there being a few ft lbs  
> difference between
> the later two motors in this respect.
>
> Keep them at or above 2500rpm except for light pedal cruse at 2k,  
> use nothing below (especially for the less torquey 948) and all  
> should go well in terms of service life, all other factors being  
> equal.
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 21:22:27 2009
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:22:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
Message-ID: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com>

Wow, count me in as a convert.  The ballast went out in the normal four foot
fixture in my garage.  I replaced it with a high output 8 foot fixture, and
the difference is night and day!  I can't believe how much brighter it is.
Now I'm thinking of getting a second one to add in towards the other half of
the garage.   Gonna make those late night fixes a lot easier to do.

Greg Gowins
Driftwood, TX

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 21:26:26 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:26:26 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
In-Reply-To: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910906142026i68a06e16pb9f6e43a47e60fb2@mail.gmail.com>

You found a good deal on 8ft bulbs?
I haven't priced them in a long time but last time they were very expensive.

From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 21:30:31 2009
From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 22:30:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910906142026i68a06e16pb9f6e43a47e60fb2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com>
	<5f00d9910906142026i68a06e16pb9f6e43a47e60fb2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d6f30eca0906142030s6744a70fv75b5cc8fab6e1eb0@mail.gmail.com>

There was a two pack of Philips 110W HO 8 foot bulbs for $13 at Home
Depot.   The hardest part was getting the fixture and bulbs home in my Honda
Accord coupe. :)

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You found a good deal on 8ft bulbs?
> I haven't priced them in a long time but last time they were very
> expensive.

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 22:05:26 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:05:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
In-Reply-To: <4A35AB5C.4040006@comcast.net>
References: <275294.60587.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4A35AB5C.4040006@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4333f8140906142105y3a6d58f6j1a22bc17e848b2a@mail.gmail.com>

And look a the tyre size: 195/65R15.  Over 2" greater diameter than 155/80
13s.  Or is that a mistake on the seller's part?

Hal

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Jay Fishbein wrote:
>
>> " All of the hard work has been done."
>>  >From his description it shounds like all the hard work hasn't yet begun.
>>
>>
> And it's full of moss crap.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 04:01:21 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:01:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
In-Reply-To: <00bc01c9ed49$b67adab0$6401a8c0@refisk>
References: <37dc82d40906141639r6cc1e7fal5878b74b7048592f@mail.gmail.com>
	<00bc01c9ed49$b67adab0$6401a8c0@refisk>
Message-ID: <205cef430906150301u492b652bq4a6f605c5bc8cb8a@mail.gmail.com>

Rick,
I never knew that and always wondered. I thought it was a hanger for
painting that section.

Frank what do you mean by "hat track"?
Lin

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Rick <refisk at chartermi.net> wrote:

> The "scoops" are located under drain holes in the floor.  The scoops are
> actually shields that let water drain out, but keep it from coming in when
> you drive through a puddle.
>
> Rick
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <
> khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:39 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
>
>
>  Undeneath a Sprite, at least a Frog Aye, I notice these little scoop like
>> pieces that are welded to the bottom.
>>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun 15 05:36:59 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:36:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
In-Reply-To: <d6f30eca0906142030s6744a70fv75b5cc8fab6e1eb0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910906142026i68a06e16pb9f6e43a47e60fb2@mail.gmail.com>
	<d6f30eca0906142030s6744a70fv75b5cc8fab6e1eb0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A3730849EADA4E0FBDF8B862CDFBFF3D@spider>

There have been some improvements in the wattage of fluorescents in the last
year. I looked at the fluorescent replacements for filament bulbs last week
(Home Depot.) They have some now that claim to put out 100-watts. They stick
out 5 3/4 inches from the screw in base. None of this 15w supposed to put
out 40 watts of visible light.  ...bill in oregon
==================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Gowins
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:31 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights

There was a two pack of Philips 110W HO 8 foot bulbs for $13 at Home
Depot.   The hardest part was getting the fixture and bulbs home in my Honda
Accord coupe. :)

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You found a good deal on 8ft bulbs?
> I haven't priced them in a long time but last time they were very
> expensive.
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From shelden3 at pldi.net  Mon Jun 15 06:11:52 2009
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:11:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
In-Reply-To: <A3730849EADA4E0FBDF8B862CDFBFF3D@spider>
References: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910906142026i68a06e16pb9f6e43a47e60fb2@mail.gmail.com>
	<d6f30eca0906142030s6744a70fv75b5cc8fab6e1eb0@mail.gmail.com>
	<A3730849EADA4E0FBDF8B862CDFBFF3D@spider>
Message-ID: <42137.164.58.184.10.1245067912.squirrel@mail7.pldi.net>

I think you guys are talking about 2 different types of bulbs, the 100w HO
8' bulbs are like what you see in work shop lights (btw good deal on
those, I have 3 in my shop)...the others are those dang compact
fluorescents..you know those ones from China that have mercury in them,
actually all do just now every house will be required to use them.

cs


> There have been some improvements in the wattage of fluorescents in the
> last
> year. I looked at the fluorescent replacements for filament bulbs last
> week
> (Home Depot.) They have some now that claim to put out 100-watts. They
> stick
> out 5 3/4 inches from the screw in base. None of this 15w supposed to put
> out 40 watts of visible light.  ...bill in oregon
> ==================================================
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Gowins
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:31 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
>
> There was a two pack of Philips 110W HO 8 foot bulbs for $13 at Home
> Depot.   The hardest part was getting the fixture and bulbs home in my
> Honda
> Accord coupe. :)
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You found a good deal on 8ft bulbs?
>> I haven't priced them in a long time but last time they were very
>> expensive.

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 15 08:04:45 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:04:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
In-Reply-To: <4333f8140906142105y3a6d58f6j1a22bc17e848b2a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <275294.60587.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<4A35AB5C.4040006@comcast.net> 
	<4333f8140906142105y3a6d58f6j1a22bc17e848b2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W237518F2D0E15E40AF9756C23E0@phx.gbl>

I think he messed up,
if you look at the pictures, the tires are 155/80/13.
Unless he has another set of rims.
Shocks look pretty crappy for being rebuilts,
and is it me, or does the exhaust look undersized for a 1275?

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:05:26 -0700
> From: frog.aye at gmail.com
> To: spritenut at comcast.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
>
> And look a the tyre size: 195/65R15.  Over 2" greater diameter than 155/80
> 13s.  Or is that a mistake on the seller's part?
>
> Hal
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Jay Fishbein wrote:
> >
> >> " All of the hard work has been done."
> >>  >From his description it shounds like all the hard work hasn't yet
begun.
> >>
> >>
> > And it's full of moss crap.
>

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From gjbranch at comcast.net  Mon Jun 15 08:11:54 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:11:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
References: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com><5f00d9910906142026i68a06e16pb9f6e43a47e60fb2@mail.gmail.com><d6f30eca0906142030s6744a70fv75b5cc8fab6e1eb0@mail.gmail.com><A3730849EADA4E0FBDF8B862CDFBFF3D@spider>
	<42137.164.58.184.10.1245067912.squirrel@mail7.pldi.net>
Message-ID: <031601c9edc3$3cccf340$0201a8c0@DELL>

All fluorescents have mercury in them.  The smaller the diameter of the 
bulb, the more efficient they are.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <shelden3 at pldi.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights


>I think you guys are talking about 2 different types of bulbs, the 100w HO
> 8' bulbs are like what you see in work shop lights (btw good deal on
> those, I have 3 in my shop)...the others are those dang compact
> fluorescents..you know those ones from China that have mercury in them,
> actually all do just now every house will be required to use them.
>
> cs
>
>
>> There have been some improvements in the wattage of fluorescents in the
>> last
>> year. I looked at the fluorescent replacements for filament bulbs last
>> week
>> (Home Depot.) They have some now that claim to put out 100-watts. They
>> stick
>> out 5 3/4 inches from the screw in base. None of this 15w supposed to put
>> out 40 watts of visible light.  ...bill in oregon
>> ==================================================
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Gowins
>> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 8:31 PM
>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
>>
>> There was a two pack of Philips 110W HO 8 foot bulbs for $13 at Home
>> Depot.   The hardest part was getting the fixture and bulbs home in my
>> Honda
>> Accord coupe. :)
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM, derf <derf247 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You found a good deal on 8ft bulbs?
>>> I haven't priced them in a long time but last time they were very
>>> expensive.
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From cclabaw at juno.com  Mon Jun 15 09:34:42 2009
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:34:42 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
Message-ID: <20090615.083442.3189.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com>

And rustmites are parasites of tinworms.

Clay L.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
To: Undisclosed-recipients:;
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question on Original Design of Underside
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:03:19 -0500

Like I said, Herb....    Where the rustmites live...    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:55 PM, WFO Herb <froggi60 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Pee-Tube slot!
>
> Na, they're to allow water to drain out.
>
> Herb
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 15 10:21:13 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:21:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Proud Dad
In-Reply-To: <54288032.20090612191417@pacifier.com>
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Message-ID: <BLU103-W116F82EB9DB2FEF8F3FDA1C23E0@phx.gbl>

Congrat's Bill,

Sounds like you have great kids.
Must take after their Mom!

heheheheheh

<JK>

You have every right to be proud.


Brian S.
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> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:14:17 -0700
> From: pythias at pacifier.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Proud Dad
>
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>        Some of you met my son Andrew at LotO. Most never will, but I
>        have to brag a little on him..
>
>        It's official. He's a Valedictorian at his high school where he
>        graduates Saturday. He will be one of three speakers at
>        commencement. At the awards assembly held this week, he was
>        recognized as the best Science Student, the best Math Student,
>        the best Writer, and the best Japanese Student; everything he's
>        taking but Ceramics. .. In his previous years he has been the
>        best student in the subject in EVERY subject he's taken. He has had
>        all the AP classes that are offered, excelling even there. He
>        will be attending Harvey Mudd College in the fall, joining his
>        sister, who, after two years there has had as much math as a
>        University of Washington student graduating with a Math Major.
>        He's thinking Chemistry, or Engineering..
>
>        Proud?  YOU BET!
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
>
>  '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 10:26:58 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:26:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Super cheap Weber 45 DCOE
Message-ID: <782507.73610.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

This is silly-cheap:

http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10609

NFI, etc. Just passing it along.

Ron

From bkitterer at me.com  Mon Jun 15 11:40:47 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:40:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
In-Reply-To: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F610C7D4-5C35-4538-8B2F-57DCE846D733@me.com>

I have  not checked recently but a few years ago you could buy twelve  
four footers for less money than four eight footers.  So I put in a  
lot of four footers and the fixtures cost less.  Has that changed?

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 14, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Greg Gowins wrote:

> Wow, count me in as a convert.  The ballast went out in the normal  
> four foot
> fixture in my garage.  I replaced it with a high output 8 foot  
> fixture, and
> the difference is night and day!  I can't believe how much brighter  
> it is.
> Now I'm thinking of getting a second one to add in towards the other  
> half of
> the garage.   Gonna make those late night fixes a lot easier to do.
>
> Greg Gowins
> Driftwood, TX
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 12:53:55 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:53:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
Message-ID: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com> wrote:
> money than four eight footers.  So I put in a lot of
> four footers and the fixtures cost less.  Has that
> changed?

Still a good plan. I have 12 four footers (looks like 3 dual-8 foot fixtures)
in my "clean" shop. It's total debauchery, and I wouldn't have it any other
way.

Ron

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 15 13:06:27 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:06:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
References: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com>
	<F610C7D4-5C35-4538-8B2F-57DCE846D733@me.com>
Message-ID: <5C017CC9E99F41018CDD1B0170798A0F@Larry>

Remember that 4 foot bulbs normally put out 40 watts, but 8 foot HO bulbs 
put out 96 watts, so you will get more light from an 8 footer than from 2 - 
4 footers.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at me.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights


I have  not checked recently but a few years ago you could buy twelve
four footers for less money than four eight footers.  So I put in a
lot of four footers and the fixtures cost less.  Has that changed?

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

From gjbranch at comcast.net  Mon Jun 15 14:09:59 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:09:59 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
References: <d6f30eca0906142022y72644149lf8345d5d70a9e11@mail.gmail.com><F610C7D4-5C35-4538-8B2F-57DCE846D733@me.com>
	<5C017CC9E99F41018CDD1B0170798A0F@Larry>
Message-ID: <034201c9edf5$4306a850$0201a8c0@DELL>

Remember too that some of the cheapy (4 or 8') fixtures won't light in the 
cold.  I have 8' HOs in my shop and they light pretty well at 55, but they 
hum like crazy, so I leave the radio on.  BTW, I got a whole bunch of these 
for free from an electrician who was retrofitting supermarkets with more 
efficient units.  The supermarket chain was junking them.....extra bulbs 
too!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Daniels" <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at me.com>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights


> Remember that 4 foot bulbs normally put out 40 watts, but 8 foot HO bulbs
> put out 96 watts, so you will get more light from an 8 footer than from 
> 2 -
> 4 footers.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kitterer Bob" <bkitterer at me.com>
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
>
>
> I have  not checked recently but a few years ago you could buy twelve
> four footers for less money than four eight footers.  So I put in a
> lot of four footers and the fixtures cost less.  Has that changed?
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 14:59:07 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:59:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
Message-ID: <615728.66851.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Geoff Branch <gjbranch at comcast.net> wrote:
> Remember too that some of the cheapy
> (4 or 8') fixtures won't light in the cold.  I have 8'
> HOs in my shop and they light pretty well at 55, but they
> hum like crazy, so I leave the radio on. 

I keep my shop at 42 in the winter when it's idling, 55 when I'm working and the "Winter" fixtures work beautifully. I also have one 4 foot fixture in the cold side of the garage that was a discard from somewhere, and it bites, so make sure you get what you need for your conditions.

Ron 

From smarc at smarc.net  Mon Jun 15 15:09:48 2009
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:09:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
In-Reply-To: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net>

I run 9 of the four footers, as 3 different banks on separate switches, 
plus a recycled 4 bulb 4 footer over the workbench. I bought the cheapie 
home despot T-8 lights and came to regret that decision. They hum 
loudly, don't start in the cold, and the ballasts die fairly often.  I 
was able to get a bunch of 'trougher' type fixtures (freebies!) from a 
building that was being gutted. They were excellent quality T-8 units, 
complete with new bulbs, except I don't have a drop ceiling in the 
garage. So I ripped out the ballasts and bulbs, and replaced all my 
cheap ballasts. They don't hum, & they start up well except on the very 
coldest of days. Plus I have many years supply of spare bulbs...

-- 

Marc

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Jun 15 15:48:32 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:48:32 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W237518F2D0E15E40AF9756C23E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <954974457.5114311245102512342.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

all thats fine but at $3300 isn't it a good deal?
----- Original Message -----
From: "brian S" <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
To: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:04:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?

I think he messed up,
if you look at the pictures, the tires are 155/80/13.
Unless he has another set of rims.
Shocks look pretty crappy for being rebuilts,
and is it me, or does the exhaust look undersized for a 1275?

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:05:26 -0700
> From: frog.aye at gmail.com
> To: spritenut at comcast.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
>
> And look a the tyre size: 195/65R15. B Over 2" greater diameter than 155/80
> 13s. B Or is that a mistake on the seller's part?
>
> Hal
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Jay Fishbein wrote:
> >
> >> " All of the hard work has been done."
> >> B >From his description it shounds like all the hard work hasn't yet
begun.
> >>
> >>
> > And it's full of moss crap.
>

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From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Mon Jun 15 15:50:50 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:50:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W237518F2D0E15E40AF9756C23E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1791586298.5115441245102650441.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

let me rephraseB that -----not that I am going to buy it but wouldn't that be
a good starting point for someone as opposed to some others we have seen for
sale recently?

ryan
----- Original Message -----
From: "brian S" <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
To: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:04:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?

I think he messed up,
if you look at the pictures, the tires are 155/80/13.
Unless he has another set of rims.
Shocks look pretty crappy for being rebuilts,
and is it me, or does the exhaust look undersized for a 1275?

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:05:26 -0700
> From: frog.aye at gmail.com
> To: spritenut at comcast.net
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 Bugeye on eBay in NJ anyone we know?
>
> And look a the tyre size: 195/65R15. B Over 2" greater diameter than 155/80
> 13s. B Or is that a mistake on the seller's part?
>
> Hal
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Jay Fishbein wrote:
> >
> >> " All of the hard work has been done."
> >> B >From his description it shounds like all the hard work hasn't yet
begun.
> >>
> >>
> > And it's full of moss crap.
>

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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 16:33:27 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:33:27 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Trip
In-Reply-To: <402188520906130537v7a712c5fj5a33f891398b970b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <402188520906121944r77d9cbdci7a6a1c8448451a9e@mail.gmail.com>
	<E7DB8C7B-9588-463D-8406-AFE7505F84AC@me.com>
	<402188520906130537v7a712c5fj5a33f891398b970b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906151533h701df50aifccb31e1d7b77af0@mail.gmail.com>

OK, Trevor, we honked and we got a semi to help us this time. I bet
you still didn't hear us ;-)

Yes, we are safely and uneventfully home now. Car is still running,
but he is asking for some attention and begging for some R&R. I think
he earned it...
David L

From pythias at pacifier.com  Mon Jun 15 17:27:25 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:27:25 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
In-Reply-To: <4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net>
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com>

Hello,

     No matter the cost of the fluorescent fixture or the lamps
     therein, I personally DETEST fluorescent lighting fixtures. I
     don't like the hum, and I don't like flicker, and I don't like
     the color of the light itself.

     If I were building or lighting a shop there is not a chance,- no
     matter the price difference- that I would CHOOSE to use
     fluorescent tubes.

     YMMV. 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
  Exceeding the legal fun limit on a regular basis 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun 15 20:33:53 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:33:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
In-Reply-To: <776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com>
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net> <776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <4A370491.3060108@comcast.net>

Bill L wrote:
> Hello,
>
>      No matter the cost of the fluorescent fixture or the lamps
>      therein, I personally DETEST fluorescent lighting fixtures. I
>      don't like the hum, and I don't like flicker, and I don't like
>      the color of the light itself.
>   
But modern high output 8 footers do not hum, the light is white and it 
makes my garage look like there is a nuclear blast going on inside if 
you look from the street thru the windows. They also help in doing body 
work because you see every little flaw.
I have the old style fluorescents  upstairs in the  garage, it looks dim 
up there if you walk up from the downstairs shop.
Upstairs hums and if it's cold, they may not come on but the HOs come on 
at zero degrees, they hum then but if it's 0 out, I am only passing thru 
the garage not working out there.
I will never buy another one of those chinese made curly bulbs, those 
things are useless.
If it says 13 watts but looks like 60, it's still only 13 watts and as 
bright as a 13 watt bulb.
One more advantage on the tube lights, no shadows.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From shelden3 at pldi.net  Mon Jun 15 20:36:48 2009
From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:36:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net>
	<776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com> <4A370491.3060108@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <006701c9ee2b$4cca2390$6801a8c0@housexemkv1xcx>

Agreed,. Friends come over and can't believe how bright my shop is and with 
the white plastic backed insulation it really lights up.  Now it doesn't get 
as cold here in Oklahoma as it does up north but even in winter if my shop 
is at 38 these pop right on, I did get the HO cold start ballast though and 
that does help.  No humm either.  Once the heater kicks in and or after a 
few moments they go to full power.  No issues, I paid a bit more but they 
work.

cs
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights


> Bill L wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>>      No matter the cost of the fluorescent fixture or the lamps
>>      therein, I personally DETEST fluorescent lighting fixtures. I
>>      don't like the hum, and I don't like flicker, and I don't like
>>      the color of the light itself.
>>
> But modern high output 8 footers do not hum, the light is white and it 
> makes my garage look like there is a nuclear blast going on inside if you 
> look from the street thru the windows. They also help in doing body work 
> because you see every little flaw.
> I have the old style fluorescents  upstairs in the  garage, it looks dim 
> up there if you walk up from the downstairs shop.
> Upstairs hums and if it's cold, they may not come on but the HOs come on 
> at zero degrees, they hum then but if it's 0 out, I am only passing thru 
> the garage not working out there.
> I will never buy another one of those chinese made curly bulbs, those 
> things are useless.
> If it says 13 watts but looks like 60, it's still only 13 watts and as 
> bright as a 13 watt bulb.
> One more advantage on the tube lights, no shadows.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
> _______________________________________________
> 


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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 21:18:44 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:18:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Mini Mania
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906152018uf96d05jc7e2c5aa38853635@mail.gmail.com>

Is Mini Mania still in existence?  I e-mailed them with a question and have
yet to hear from them.

Perhaps I'm the last to know....

Herb

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 15 21:24:45 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:24:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
Message-ID: <664124.60723.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> But modern high output 8 footers do not hum, the light is
> white and it makes my garage look like there is a nuclear
> blast going on inside if you look from the street thru the
> windows. They also help in doing body work because you see

Amen, brother. They say there's no such thing as a healthy tan, but I think I got one from my shop lights. 

Ron

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Jun 15 21:26:24 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:26:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt
In-Reply-To: <4A370491.3060108@comcast.net>
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net>
	<776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com> <4A370491.3060108@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <F042B5924B524E3B8F64EBB5FD4FD402@CatheyBPC>

Any one have a good way to hold the crank pulley while breaking the 
crankshaft bolt loose?  I have to change out the front seal.  Am going to 
replace the timing cover also with one that takes the neoprene seal versus 
the original felt one.  Have a major oil leak there and am not going to have 
it again due to the felt seal.  Prefer a method which does the least damage 
to paint:)  Am also going to drop the pan and check out the rod bearings to 
see if  they might be the culprit in my low oil pressure.

leo 

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 15 23:32:14 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:32:14 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eight foot fluorescent lights
In-Reply-To: <664124.60723.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <664124.60723.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200906152032793.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

I had to light up a 20F curling ice house.
We run 8 foot HO flourescents at 15 feet off the ice field at that 
temp, and no hum(except from the audience humming WTF?)

It's bright out there.

Peter C
===============
  At 08:24 PM 6/15/2009, Ron Soave wrote:
>--- On Mon, 6/15/09, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
> > But modern high output 8 footers do not hum, the light is
> > white and it makes my garage look like there is a nuclear
> > blast going on inside if you look from the street thru the
> > windows. They also help in doing body work because you see
>
>Amen, brother. They say there's no such thing as a healthy tan, but 
>I think I got one from my shop lights.
>
>Ron

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 15 21:36:42 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:36:42 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net><776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com>
	<4A370491.3060108@comcast.net>
	<F042B5924B524E3B8F64EBB5FD4FD402@CatheyBPC>
Message-ID: <5B969AC041ED467CAEC3A98007A113EC@Larry>

If you are dropping the pan, just put a 2X4 between the crank and the side 
of the block.  That will prevent the crank from turning.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ldsp" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 10:26 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt


Any one have a good way to hold the crank pulley while breaking the
crankshaft bolt loose?  I have to change out the front seal.  Am going to
replace the timing cover also with one that takes the neoprene seal versus
the original felt one.  Have a major oil leak there and am not going to have
it again due to the felt seal.  Prefer a method which does the least damage
to paint:)  Am also going to drop the pan and check out the rod bearings to
see if  they might be the culprit in my low oil pressure.

leo
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Jun 15 23:00:24 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:00:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum guage...
Message-ID: <4A36C478.27144.20FC3E5@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I'd like to plumb a vacuum guage into the factory standard intake 
manifold...
There are several blind bolts on it.
I'd like to put the guage where it see's the vacuum from all 
cylinders...

Suggestions and thread sizes welcome...



--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From info at classictradespace.com  Tue Jun 16 00:59:20 2009
From: info at classictradespace.com (classic trade space)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:59:20 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] body tub
Message-ID: <0BCC59976C2F4019B6463D6E452CE00F@bunce>

Just wondering if anyone has or knows of a good solid rolling bugeye project
car or a decent complete car that needs restoring, would consider a later
model but with side screens not the wind up window odel.

Thanks all.

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Tue Jun 16 07:34:34 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:34:34 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] timing cover question?
Message-ID: <17335941.1245159274579.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

ok i remember my timing cover has a felt seal and when i do my rebuild would like to install a cover with the later seal.  what year am i looking for?   kevin , frank do either of you have one?

chuck
ed, notice no cap. letters? :)

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jun 16 07:37:37 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:37:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Pump Bracket
Message-ID: <321018.73483.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Looking for one SU Pump bracket.

If anyone has one, please contact me offlist.

Thanks,
Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 16 07:56:05 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:56:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt
In-Reply-To: <F042B5924B524E3B8F64EBB5FD4FD402@CatheyBPC>
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net>
	<776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com> <4A370491.3060108@comcast.net>
	<F042B5924B524E3B8F64EBB5FD4FD402@CatheyBPC>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W23368CCFBC7313C461E731C23F0@phx.gbl>

Leo,

I did mine in Frank's driveway a month ago.
As larry said, if you take the pan off,
put a 2x4  between the block and crank.
Or as I did, use a breaker bar, put it against
the frame, and bump the starter to break it loose.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:26:24 -0500
> Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt
>
> Any one have a good way to hold the crank pulley while breaking the
> crankshaft bolt loose?  I have to change out the front seal.  Am going to
> replace the timing cover also with one that takes the neoprene seal versus
> the original felt one.  Have a major oil leak there and am not going to have
> it again due to the felt seal.  Prefer a method which does the least damage
> to paint:)  Am also going to drop the pan and check out the rod bearings to
> see if  they might be the culprit in my low oil pressure.
>
> leo


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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 16 08:00:36 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:00:36 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net><776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com>
	<4A370491.3060108@comcast.net><F042B5924B524E3B8F64EBB5FD4FD402@CatheyBPC>
	<BLU103-W23368CCFBC7313C461E731C23F0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <16E1C118D69C4B7F8856AE8A7E9817CB@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "brian S" <bugeye15 at hotmail.com>
To: "spridgets list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt


Leo,

I did mine in Frank's driveway a month ago.
As larry said, if you take the pan off,
put a 2x4  between the block and crank.
Or as I did, use a breaker bar, put it against
the frame, and bump the starter to break it loose.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!


==================

To avoid an incredible amount of embarrassment, double check that the 
ignition is off before bumping that starter!! 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 08:48:10 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:48:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt
In-Reply-To: <16E1C118D69C4B7F8856AE8A7E9817CB@Larry>
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net> <776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com>
	<4A370491.3060108@comcast.net>
	<F042B5924B524E3B8F64EBB5FD4FD402@CatheyBPC>
	<BLU103-W23368CCFBC7313C461E731C23F0@phx.gbl>
	<16E1C118D69C4B7F8856AE8A7E9817CB@Larry>
Message-ID: <402188520906160748r35e07b8cwe64ea7d2b7c3153d@mail.gmail.com>

> I did mine in Frank's driveway a month ago.
> As larry said, if you take the pan off,
> put a 2x4  between the block and crank.
> Or as I did, use a breaker bar, put it against
> the frame, and bump the starter to break it loose.

Or the old soft rope in one of the combustion chambers trick. If you
use an impact wrench, you frequently don't need anything to hold the
crank.
David L

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jun 16 08:53:40 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:53:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
Message-ID: <1C0D1436AF754B21903DF43EECFCEC4E@Home>

It turns out my BE undercoating was put on over bare metal and at least some of it peals off easily.  So it will have to be stripped.  I don't know what the undercoating is.  This nasty is like fresh roofing tar; it remains sticky and makes a mess of anything that touches it.  Maybe it *is* roofing tar.

How do I strip it?  If I use a solvent, it will just dissolve an make a thinner mess over an even wider area.  I need something that leaves the tar unable to stick to anything else.  Is there a product that turns oil-based goo into a jell?  Aircraft Stripper? Eastwood makes a stripper specifically for undercoating.  Has anyone used it?

Tarball Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite
Long Island, NY

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jun 16 10:56:30 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:56:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt
In-Reply-To: <402188520906160748r35e07b8cwe64ea7d2b7c3153d@mail.gmail.co
  m>
References: <497645.93764.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4A36B89C.2080407@smarc.net> <776828075.20090615162725@pacifier.com>
	<4A370491.3060108@comcast.net>
	<F042B5924B524E3B8F64EBB5FD4FD402@CatheyBPC>
	<BLU103-W23368CCFBC7313C461E731C23F0@phx.gbl>
	<16E1C118D69C4B7F8856AE8A7E9817CB@Larry>
	<402188520906160748r35e07b8cwe64ea7d2b7c3153d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090616075626.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Last time I did one at the track, we put the car in gear and stood on 
the brakes.  Of course at the track, one gets "expedient".
         Peter C  (now we have a "new" computer)
==
At 07:48 AM 6/16/2009, David Lieb wrote:
> > I did mine in Frank's driveway a month ago.
> > As larry said, if you take the pan off,
> > put a 2x4  between the block and crank.
> > Or as I did, use a breaker bar, put it against
> > the frame, and bump the starter to break it loose.
>
>Or the old soft rope in one of the combustion chambers trick. If you
>use an impact wrench, you frequently don't need anything to hold the
>crank.
>David L
>_______________________________________________

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 16 09:28:00 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Crankshaf tpulley bolt
In-Reply-To: <402188520906160748r35e07b8cwe64ea7d2b7c3153d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <767527.29158.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Be careful with the impact wrench. Even in&quot;undo&quot; mode there is a hammering effect that is undesirable on a crankshaft (big problem on early Miatas).

David Lieb wrote: 
>> I did mine in Frank's driveway a month ago.
>> As larry said, if you take the pan off,
>> put a 2x4  between the block and crank.
>> Or as I did, use a breaker bar, put it against
>> the frame, and bump the starter to break it loose.
> Or the old soft rope in one of the combustion chambers trick. If you
> use an impact wrench, you frequently don't need anything to hold the
> crank.
> David L
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 16 10:55:21 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:55:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget
 Event" official logo and poster!
Message-ID: <699096.7986.qm@web34404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To Jim and all the judges,
I love the logo!B  Beautiful work Gerard!
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sat, 6/13/09, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com>
Subject: [midgetsprite] "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" official logo
and poster!
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>, "sprite-midgetclub"
<Sprite-MidgetClub at yahoogroups.com>, "Yahoo Spridget list"
<midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com>, "Sprite" <bugeye at yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 5:18 PM

Spridgeteers,

The judges have decided!B  The official logo and poster can now be viewed at
the club website. A few minor changes will be made to the poster in order
for it to fit into the print format. Please join me in thanking our 15
judges for selecting the beautiful graphic work of fellow President Gerard
Chateauvieux!

http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org

--
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA
bOnly two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not sure about the former.b - Albert Einstein


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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Jun 16 11:15:53 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:15:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] insure vehicles parked in a garage or outbuilding
Message-ID: <B5AF10D01F004D8B91486EBEE9A0C7F9@spider>

Thank you to whoever mentioned insuring cars parked in a garage.

You have to get separate insurance on these. I have been uninsured for 10-15
years .and thought I was insured.

What a wakeup call!!   .bill in oregon

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 13:44:13 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:44:13 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] BD
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906161244g47ede76ax6def3126c7406a1a@mail.gmail.com>

Paul,

Happy belated birthday to you.

How is it I'm older than you now?!?

Herb

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jun 16 16:45:44 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:45:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring base plate
Message-ID: <BFB49E818CE647A8B8C1EC558ECE2192@Home>

I have been hunting through restoration pictures and can't find a definitive answer.  

Are the BE spring mount base plates supposed to be welded to the pan (as mine are), or should they be bolted on.  How should I handle them when putting in a new floor pan?

Michael  Rowe
'60 Sprite kit.
Long Island, NY

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 16 17:07:25 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:07:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring base plate
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References: <BFB49E818CE647A8B8C1EC558ECE2192@Home>
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Michael Rowe wrote:
> I have been hunting through restoration pictures and can't find a definitive answer.  
>
> Are the BE spring mount base plates supposed to be welded to the pan (as mine are), or should they be bolted on.  How should I handle them when putting in a new floor pan?
>
>   
Welded and bolted.

-- 
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My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 16 19:14:20 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:14:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum guage...
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Dave G. wrote:
> I'd like to plumb a vacuum guage into the factory standard intake 
> manifold...
> There are several blind bolts on it.
> I'd like to put the guage where it see's the vacuum from all 
> cylinders...
>   
Later intakes were tapped for a vacuum nipple, they just drilled out the 
front heater pipe securing spot and tapped it 1/4 x 20.
Probably a standard size threaded nipple at any hardware store.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jun 16 19:47:28 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:47:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Hold the calls, We have a winner
Message-ID: <588455.23147.qm@web83906.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for a fuel pump bracket.

Frank has once again come forward to release one of his treasured parts. After lengthy negotiation, I have agreed to place a small plaque with his name on the rear bulkhead near the fuel pump.

Thanks again to everyone.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jun 16 19:51:01 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 18:51:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Innocenti Spider and Coupe - Issue 157 Auto Italia
Message-ID: <638139.90454.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If anyone has any interest, there is an article on the Innocenti Spider and Coupe in Issue 157 of Auto Italia.

If anyone has any interest in acquiring one of these cars to restore, I have two for sale: One a very complete rust-free Innocenti 950 from California and the other an Innocenti S with only 18,000 miles, very complete but needing the usual body work.

If interested, contact me off-list

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

From marinaratt at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 16 23:20:33 2009
From: marinaratt at hotmail.com (Ralph Heacox)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:20:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Isky U MM32 ?
Message-ID: <BAY111-W51F1F5250954E51D29E66BC43C0@phx.gbl>

Just found an old cam in the corner of the garage.

It's marked: Isky  U  MM32

I couldn't goggle any info.

Any body got any idea what this things is spec wise?



Thanks

Ralph

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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 04:23:46 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:23:46 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Hold the calls, We have a winner
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Franks our Spridget Hero : )

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> Thanks to everyone who responded to my request for a fuel pump bracket.
>
> Frank has once again come forward to release one of his treasured parts.
> After lengthy negotiation, I have agreed to place a small plaque with his
> name on the rear bulkhead near the fuel pump.
>
> Thanks again to everyone.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 04:28:21 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:28:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring base plate
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Good question, Frank does Michael have to cut them out before installing new
floor pans and then clean them up and reweld before adding the bolts or is
there another way to work around that while installing new pans. Also how
about sitting them in the correct place I think I read they are tricky to
have them line up correctly.
Lin

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Michael Rowe wrote:
>
>> I have been hunting through restoration pictures and can't find a
>> definitive answer.
>> Are the BE spring mount base plates supposed to be welded to the pan (as
>> mine are), or should they be bolted on.  How should I handle them when
>> putting in a new floor pan?
>>
>>
>>
> Welded and bolted.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
>
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From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Wed Jun 17 05:00:08 2009
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:00:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Isky U MM32 ?
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Message-ID: <200906171100.n5HB07S9024133@mail.usimperio.com>

What I could find on the MM-32 grind


ISKY - CAM ONLY 1275cc Cam with Dog Drive available Outright on 
special order only.
Allow 2-3 weeks for shipment.
Grind # MM-32
Type (torquer) Intake (22 56) Exhaust (59 25) Lift (.330 .325) Valve 
Lash hot (.016 .019) Duration (2
Mfr Part #: 525132
Retail Price: $660.00
Your Price: $330.00


Dave



At 01:20 AM 6/17/2009, you wrote:
>Just found an old cam in the corner of the garage.
>
>It's marked: Isky  U  MM32
>
>I couldn't goggle any info.
>
>Any body got any idea what this things is spec wise?
>
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Ralph
>
>'60 BI
>
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 17 05:16:44 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:16:44 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Isky U MM32 ?
In-Reply-To: <BAY111-W51F1F5250954E51D29E66BC43C0@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <BLU103-W21D9DE176F4DA679B2194CC23C0@phx.gbl>

Ralph,

I found it on Isky's web site, leave out the U and search BMC
advertised a Torquer cam, first one listed in their A series range Doesn't
list a rev range.

520132 525132 MM-32 TORQUER  intake 22-56 exhaust 59-25 lift .330  ,325 lash
.016 .019  advertised duration 258 265
duration at.050 221 228

*NOTE: For early Austin Cooper with 1275cc engines order Pin Drive Cam.
1275cc Cam with Dog Drive available Outright on Special Order Only. Allow
2-3 weeks
for delivery.
*.
HTH,


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: marinaratt at hotmail.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:20:33 -0700
> Subject: [Spridgets] Isky U MM32 ?
>
> Just found an old cam in the corner of the garage.
>
> It's marked: Isky  U  MM32
>
> I couldn't goggle any info.
>
> Any body got any idea what this things is spec wise?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ralph
>
> '60 BI
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>
>

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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Wed Jun 17 05:23:47 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:23:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Isky U MM32 ?
In-Reply-To: <200906171100.n5HB07S9024133@mail.usimperio.com>
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	<200906171100.n5HB07S9024133@mail.usimperio.com>
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heheh,

Dave beat me to it.
Ralph is it a pin drive or star drive?
star drive ones prices are Mfr Part #: 520132Retail Price: $420.00Your Price:
$210.00


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:00:08 -0400
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Isky U MM32 ?
>
> What I could find on the MM-32 grind
>
>
> ISKY - CAM ONLY 1275cc Cam with Dog Drive available Outright on
> special order only.
> Allow 2-3 weeks for shipment.
> Grind # MM-32
> Type (torquer) Intake (22 56) Exhaust (59 25) Lift (.330 .325) Valve
> Lash hot (.016 .019) Duration (2
> Mfr Part #: 525132
> Retail Price: $660.00
> Your Price: $330.00
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> At 01:20 AM 6/17/2009, you wrote:
> >Just found an old cam in the corner of the garage.
> >
> >It's marked: Isky  U  MM32
> >
> >I couldn't goggle any info.
> >
> >Any body got any idea what this things is spec wise?
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Ralph
> >
> >'60 BI
> >s

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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 17 11:19:27 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:19:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Why the vacuum guage???
Message-ID: <4A38C32F.17621.99FC99@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Just in case anyone was wondering why I'm asking about where to plumb 
in a vacuum guage....

http://www.secondchancegarage.com/public/186.cfm
The animated scenarios are excellent   <G>
 
--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 12:10:32 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:10:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use it
	before?
Message-ID: <205cef430906171110k1d71d3dbxaa6578ca48b7858d@mail.gmail.com>

I think I understand how this works but not sure. Does it roll a shape on
flat metal in the shape of the Mandrels? Do the rollers come together when
you crank it? I really like how it clamps on a vice so you can save valuable
space.
Lin
Has anyone used it before?
http://www.eastwood.com/economy-bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels.html?reltype=2

From mikey at b2systems.com  Wed Jun 17 12:22:03 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:22:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <205cef430906171110k1d71d3dbxaa6578ca48b7858d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430906171110k1d71d3dbxaa6578ca48b7858d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245262923.27370.38.camel@WebBrowser>

 You use mandrels that have the shape you want and roll the metal around
in the pattern you want.  The metal is squeezed between the rollers via
the pressure screw on the top and the roller just helps move the metal.

  I have not used this one and the last time I used a bead roller was
high school body shop but I am super interested in the replies since I
am in the market for a roller to do some reinforcing beads on several
panels on my 34 Singer that I am replacing.  Been looking at several
powered rollers since I will have quite a few panels to do, but after
that I expect never to use it again.  Thinking buy/use/sell (lose as
little $$$ as possible) and no, I wont send them  out to be done, its my
restoration, not someone else's.

 By the way, its not as easy as the videos show if you want a nice
pattern.

	mike

On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 14:10 -0400, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> I think I understand how this works but not sure. Does it roll a shape on
> flat metal in the shape of the Mandrels? Do the rollers come together when
> you crank it? I really like how it clamps on a vice so you can save valuable
> space.
> Lin
> Has anyone used it before?
> http://www.eastwood.com/economy-bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels.html?reltype=2

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 12:35:43 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:35:43 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <1245262923.27370.38.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <205cef430906171110k1d71d3dbxaa6578ca48b7858d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245262923.27370.38.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <205cef430906171135u3adad343k5a7187fa00342f90@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike,
Thanks for the tip, it will be interesting to hear the replies. I also
thought this DVD of building motorcycle gas tanks would be interesting to
learn about other techniques. The DVD is 2-3/4 hrs long it has got to be
better than Orange County Choppers where they buy & cut with very little
fabrication.
http://www.eastwood.com/motorcycle-gas-tank-part-i-and-ii-dvd-format.html
Lin

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:

>  You use mandrels that have the shape you want and roll the metal around
> in the pattern you want.  The metal is squeezed between the rollers via
> the pressure screw on the top and the roller just helps move the metal.
>
>  I have not used this one and the last time I used a bead roller was
> high school body shop but I am super interested in the replies since I
> am in the market for a roller to do some reinforcing beads on several
> panels on my 34 Singer that I am replacing.  Been looking at several
> powered rollers since I will have quite a few panels to do, but after
> that I expect never to use it again.  Thinking buy/use/sell (lose as
> little $$$ as possible) and no, I wont send them  out to be done, its my
> restoration, not someone else's.
>
>  By the way, its not as easy as the videos show if you want a nice
> pattern.
>
>        mike
>
> On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 14:10 -0400, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> > I think I understand how this works but not sure. Does it roll a shape on
> > flat metal in the shape of the Mandrels? Do the rollers come together
> when
> > you crank it? I really like how it clamps on a vice so you can save
> valuable
> > space.
> > Lin
> > Has anyone used it before?
> >
> http://www.eastwood.com/economy-bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels.html?reltype=2
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jun 17 15:37:51 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:37:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <205cef430906171110k1d71d3dbxaa6578ca48b7858d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C65EB03F.17EFB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> how this works but not sure.
Go to your local Harbor Freight store and look at their knock-off.

From mikey at b2systems.com  Wed Jun 17 15:58:03 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:58:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <205cef430906171135u3adad343k5a7187fa00342f90@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430906171110k1d71d3dbxaa6578ca48b7858d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245262923.27370.38.camel@WebBrowser>
	<205cef430906171135u3adad343k5a7187fa00342f90@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245275883.27370.52.camel@WebBrowser>

Resending...did not see it come through, sorry if this is a dup.

Very good DVD if you want to learn the basics, I highly recommend it.
It will walk you through the basics and from there you can grow your
skills.

 Of course, I am cheap, I don't own it... I rent it.

http://smartflix.com/store/category/20/Sheetmetal

:)

 They don't appear to have one on bead rollers but I know the English
Wheel one shows the basics of a bead roller, he runs a bead to show how
much stiffer a panel is after it has a bead but does not really explain
the bead roller.

 Warning watching these videos will not make you a sheet metal worker, I
rented the English Wheel videos, set up my wheel and out came garbage,
it sure did not look like it does in the video, getting close now
though.

	mike

On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 14:35 -0400, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Thanks for the tip, it will be interesting to hear the replies. I also
> thought this DVD of building motorcycle gas tanks would be interesting
> to learn about other techniques. The DVD is 2-3/4 hrs long it has got
> to be better than Orange County Choppers where they buy & cut with
> very little fabrication.
> http://www.eastwood.com/motorcycle-gas-tank-part-i-and-ii-dvd-format.html
> Lin
> 
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:22 PM, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com>
> wrote:
>          You use mandrels that have the shape you want and roll the
>         metal around
>         in the pattern you want.  The metal is squeezed between the
>         rollers via
>         the pressure screw on the top and the roller just helps move
>         the metal.
>         
>          I have not used this one and the last time I used a bead
>         roller was
>         high school body shop but I am super interested in the replies
>         since I
>         am in the market for a roller to do some reinforcing beads on
>         several
>         panels on my 34 Singer that I am replacing.  Been looking at
>         several
>         powered rollers since I will have quite a few panels to do,
>         but after
>         that I expect never to use it again.  Thinking buy/use/sell
>         (lose as
>         little $$$ as possible) and no, I wont send them  out to be
>         done, its my
>         restoration, not someone else's.
>         
>          By the way, its not as easy as the videos show if you want a
>         nice
>         pattern.
>         
>                mike
>         
>         On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 14:10 -0400, Linda Grunthaner wrote:
>         > I think I understand how this works but not sure. Does it
>         roll a shape on
>         > flat metal in the shape of the Mandrels? Do the rollers come
>         together when
>         > you crank it? I really like how it clamps on a vice so you
>         can save valuable
>         > space.
>         > Lin
>         > Has anyone used it before?
>         >
>         http://www.eastwood.com/economy-bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels.html?reltype=2

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 17 16:05:24 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:05:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <C65EB03F.17EFB%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJMEPFDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<> how this works but not sure.
Go to your local Harbor Freight store and look at their knock-off.>>

Whilst good advise Billy, I would REALLY 
question the quality vs quality<G>!!!

Eastwood IS owned my a MGer and he REALLY cares about HIS
Company's quality & products.  Just ONE of the reasons that
Eastwood has had CORRECT MG Engine Paint<VBG>!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 17 16:11:36 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:11:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJMEPFDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJMEPFDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <4A396A18.6070601@comcast.net>

Ed's Shop wrote:
> <<> how this works but not sure.
> Go to your local Harbor Freight store and look at their knock-off.>>
>
> Whilst good advise Billy, I would REALLY 
> question the quality vs quality<G>!!!
>
> Eastwood IS owned my a MGer and he REALLY cares about HIS
> Company's quality & products.  Just ONE of the reasons that
> Eastwood has had CORRECT MG Engine Paint<VBG>!!
>
>   
Then again, eastwoods tools are the exact same as horrible freight 
except painted blue not red.
Made in china too!

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Jun 17 16:24:22 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:24:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <4A396A18.6070601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJMEPGDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Made in china too!>>

IF they  are Frank, I will GUARENTEE you that
the SPECS for each product is WAY different &
a He\\ of a lot more STRINGENT !!!!  Curt IS
dam*ed FUSSY !!

I just got in a Boot Badge of MG that IS "made
in Taiwan" and I WOULD use on Cindy's car and
or Customers' (which it IS for<G>) cars.  And it
IS headed to PA'rainea !!!<G>

Taiwan is NOT China and Spec Requirements ARE
different Co. to Co.!!!

'Course I DO realize that YOU do NOT either
desire to learn nor believe dat<G>!!

Me

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Wed Jun 17 16:34:43 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:34:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJMEPFDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <C65EBD93.17F04%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Whilst good advise Billy, I would REALLY
> question the quality vs quality<G>!!!
I didn't say buy one, I said look at it to see how it works.  Its a
knock-off of the Eastwood.

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Wed Jun 17 18:30:44 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:30:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJMEPGDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <1537484971.6128831245285044111.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

is that mine? what about the rest of the parts? At this point i don't care if its china, taiwan, calcutta, or wherever the question is it scratched/ gouged already. wait is it spelled correctly? MG not GM 
ryan 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:24:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use it before? 

<<Made in china too!>> 

IF they are Frank, I will GUARENTEE you that 
the SPECS for each product is WAY different & 
a He\\ of a lot more STRINGENT !!!! Curt IS 
dam*ed FUSSY !! 

I just got in a Boot Badge of MG that IS "made 
in Taiwan" and I WOULD use on Cindy's car and 
or Customers' (which it IS for<G>) cars. And it 
IS headed to PA'rainea !!!<G> 

Taiwan is NOT China and Spec Requirements ARE 
different Co. to Co.!!! 

'Course I DO realize that YOU do NOT either 
desire to learn nor believe dat<G>!! 

Me 
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Wed Jun 17 19:25:39 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:25:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Side curtain rubbers revisited
Message-ID: <4A399793.4010109@comcast.net>

Help! I have 4, FOUR different brands of Sprite side curtains.
Weathershields (OEM) 1 pair but no seals
Bakers (better than OEM) 1 pair but no mounts
And brand X  - 1 left w/seals
and Brand Y -  1 left no seals

So who has the correct, doesn't have to be trimmed weathershields rubber 
gaskets?
Or does anybody have the mounting brackets for a pair of Bakers curtains?
And the catalog too thick stuff fits nice in my brand X and brand Y 
curtains but I only have one of each and each is for the same side of 
the car.
The weathershields take a 1.5" "T" type stripping that looks just like 
the storm door bottom seals but about an inch taller.
The "T" on rubbers has to be no wider than 3/16" to fit. 1/8 will work too.
I tried garage door weatherstripping, the "T" is 1/4" but the flange is 
2" which I could trim IF I could get it in the slot.
I tried shaving 1/16 off each edge but that got to be just about 
impossible after about 8 inches.
As of now I have 6 useless side curtains and 2 Bugeyes in the family 
with no side curtains.
My own Bugeye has Bakers and I have installed tempered GLASS in them, no 
more plexi  :)
My kids can do what they want with their sidecurtains once I make up a 
usable pair for each of them.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From mgmaven at bellsouth.net  Wed Jun 17 19:58:41 2009
From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:58:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Test
Message-ID: <4.1.20090617215817.00d14578@mail.bellsouth.net>

Test

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 22:04:28 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:04:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <1245275883.27370.52.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <205cef430906171110k1d71d3dbxaa6578ca48b7858d@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245262923.27370.38.camel@WebBrowser>
	<205cef430906171135u3adad343k5a7187fa00342f90@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245275883.27370.52.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906172104y4be3f1dbm1c97017544634fba@mail.gmail.com>

Great site, Mike!  Thanks for sending it.
Herb

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 17 22:54:47 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:54:47 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] lean mixture question ??
Message-ID: <4A396627.18801.1FE12A0@kk7ss.verizon.net>

As far as I understand it,
The jets, springs needles and SU's on an A-series motor are 
calibrated to the motor *WITH* the air-cleaners attached.
I am checking the engine with the air-cleaners OFF and stock carbs 
with AN needles.
I'm encountering leaning-out (carbs spitting back) at steady higher 
rpms (with the air-cleaners off.)
Is it possible that the increase in air flow (no filter resistance) 
through the carbs is resulting in a leaner than expected mixture.....

Or am I completely on the wrong track.....

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 17 23:01:51 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:01:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Thoiughts on where to plumb the vacuum guage....
Message-ID: <4A3967CF.3590.2048A20@kk7ss.verizon.net>

While I was deciding (with the lists help) were to put the vacuum 
guage, I started to think about vacuum feed to the dizzy.

With siamese intakes and two carbs, the obvious place to put the 
guage is on the balance tube..  in that position I am truly seeing 
engine vacuum.

However, one carb could be set differently to the other, resulting in 
different vacuum readings for the front vs the rear carb...!

So why would the factory put a vacuum takeoff on the side of the 
front SU??

Wouldn't it be better to feed the dizzy from the balance tube?? 

Just curious....
--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 18 04:22:37 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:22:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Test
Message-ID: <814143.74379.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

FAIL

--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Bob Spruck <mgmaven at bellsouth.net> wrote:


From: Bob Spruck <mgmaven at bellsouth.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Test
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 8:58 PM


Test
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 18 04:25:47 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:25:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Test
Message-ID: <556755.3873.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

or PASS, guess we'll leave that up to you
 

--- On Wed, 6/17/09, Bob Spruck <mgmaven at bellsouth.net> wrote:


From: Bob Spruck <mgmaven at bellsouth.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Test
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 8:58 PM


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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Jun 18 04:59:36 2009
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:59:36 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
Message-ID: <2872300E-0272-4165-9BBF-DADF1AF34B7A@phillymgclub.com>

Any of ya'll fellow travelers going to Breckenridge, CO for MG 2009  
next week??

I am going, but, unfortunately (fortunately for my marriage) not in  
the Midget. We will be going in the Mini Clubman.

Let me know and we can meet up for lunch or a beer at 11,000 feet.

Larry

-- 

Larry Macy
78 Midget

Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've  
never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams

From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au  Thu Jun 18 04:59:30 2009
From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:59:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Thoiughts on where to plumb the vacuum  guage....
Message-ID: <522358.9729.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Dave,

the following page, whilst a document about supercharging, gives a good
explanation of how the vacuum advance works, and should answer your question.

http://www.fefcholden.org.au/techinfo/supercharge/norman5.html

the whole document is a bloody good read, and it was relevant to engines
contemporary to the A-series.

http://www.fefcholden.org.au/techinfo/supercharge/index.html

Andy

For those of you who don't know  what a Holden is....it's an Australian GM
vehicle.
One of the Pontiacs in US showrooms (do they still have showrooms?) was built
here?
We're led to believe here that GM-Holden is actually profitable.

--- On Thu, 18/6/09, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

From: Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Thoiughts on where to plumb the vacuum guage....
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Received: Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 3:01 PM

While I was deciding (with the lists help) were to put the vacuum
guage, I started to think about vacuum feed to the dizzy.

With siamese intakes and two carbs, the obvious place to put the
guage is on the balance tube..  in that position I am truly seeing
engine vacuum.

However, one carb could be set differently to the other, resulting in
different vacuum readings for the front vs the rear carb...!

So why would the factory put a vacuum takeoff on the side of the
front SU??

Wouldn't it be better to feed the dizzy from the balance tube??

Just curious....
--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
alive !!
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From gjbranch at comcast.net  Thu Jun 18 05:38:24 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:38:24 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Test
References: <4.1.20090617215817.00d14578@mail.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <04c701c9f009$4a633f80$0201a8c0@DELL>

Tickles
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To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:58 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Test


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From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 18 05:58:29 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:58:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Test
Message-ID: <15598338.1245326309400.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

geoff?  i think you have graduated from the frank school of test responses?  LOL!

chuck.


-----Original Message-----
>From: Geoff Branch <gjbranch at comcast.net>
>Sent: Jun 18, 2009 7:38 AM
>To: spridgets at autox.team.net, Bob Spruck <mgmaven at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Test
>
>Tickles
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Bob Spruck" <mgmaven at bellsouth.net>
>To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:58 PM
>Subject: [Spridgets] Test

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 18 06:09:49 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:09:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] my bugeye update
Message-ID: <25398218.1245326989578.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

ok gang remember i had a torque steer problem with my car?   pulled apart the rear only to find a broken axle on the left side.   but not broken at the splines in the diff.!  it broke the axle flange out at the wheel.   i did have a "good" axle to replace it though...thankfully.   
next up is to freshen up the very tired motor which has very low oil pressure when hot at idle.  BTW?  anyone "stuck" with standard main or rod bearings for a 1275?   if so i'm interested.....i have thrust bearings and need to travel to fogelsville for a set of rings and posess a gasket set.  
also i am in need of a working blower motor for the heater / defroster.   i have all the pieces but am missing the motor or if there was a change (that fits but can not use the original fan cage) and an interchange problem need a blower with the fan.  any help would be greatly apreciated!   

chuck.
please email me at:  crusaderchuck at yahoo.com   with any leads on the pieces i'm hunting for.   thank you! :)

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 06:17:19 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:17:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] lean mixture question ??
In-Reply-To: <4A396627.18801.1FE12A0@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A396627.18801.1FE12A0@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906180517t6556ae30u8ba9ff6ad65d0931@mail.gmail.com>

The only adjustment that should be affected is the number of flats
that you turn the jet holder and that can be checked with the pin
after you have installed the air filters. Unfortunately, you are
barking up the wrong tree; if your air filters are bad enough to
affect this that much, you should have cleaned or replaced them long
since.
David Lieb

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 06:22:11 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:22:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Thoiughts on where to plumb the vacuum  guage....
In-Reply-To: <522358.9729.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <522358.9729.qm@web50602.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906180522xed28d35hbd78c6e6bf162516@mail.gmail.com>

> We're led to believe here that GM-Holden is actually profitable.

Oh well, that means it is making the rest of GM look bad, so they will
get the ax any day now.

Dave G,
Vacuum in this case is a pressure measurement in a light gas and it
makes little difference where the takeoff is within the intake
manifold unless volume is an issue. It is not an issue with the gauge
or the dizzy. OTOH, the vacuum takeoff on the front carb is NOT
manifold vacuum, it is "ported" vaccum and a significantly digfferent
signal than manifold vacuum. Do NOT move the vacuum advance elsewhere
unless you install a different vacuum advance module that EXPECTS
manifold vacuum.
David L

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 18 07:53:16 2009
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:53:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8731.1245322766.20693.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.8731.1245322766.20693.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4A3A46CC.50404@sbcglobal.net>

Hi Larry,

I'm going. Leaving St. Louis Saturday morning and taking I-70 across 
Kansas. Will stop in Wakeeney for the night and spend a couple of days 
in Colorado Springs before heading to Breckenridge. Will attempt Pikes 
Peak on Monday.

In consideration of my marriage, we will be using a tow dolly to drag my 
Midget across the Plains, but fully intend to drive it in the mountains. 
Give me a shout. First beer is on me. Three one four six oh six twenty 
eight hundred cell.

Anyone else?

Lee Fox
79 yellow Midget

Message: 18
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:59:36 -0400
From: Larry Macy <lmacy at phillymgclub.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
To: Spridgets net <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <2872300E-0272-4165-9BBF-DADF1AF34B7A at phillymgclub.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Any of ya'll fellow travelers going to Breckenridge, CO for MG 2009
next week??

I am going, but, unfortunately (fortunately for my marriage) not in
the Midget. We will be going in the Mini Clubman.

Let me know and we can meet up for lunch or a beer at 11,000 feet.

Larry

-- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. 
Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG 
Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've 
never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams 
------------------------------

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 08:31:37 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:31:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] lean mixture question ??
In-Reply-To: <402188520906180517t6556ae30u8ba9ff6ad65d0931@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A396627.18801.1FE12A0@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<402188520906180517t6556ae30u8ba9ff6ad65d0931@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A39ED59.25663.DF037@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Hi David L,

It was just a thought <G>.
I have original filters, 6" K&N filters and 5" pancake filters. All 
fitted with brand new elements...
I was thinking that maybe there existed a pressure gradient across 
the filter medium at high volumes but, in retrospect, if there was 
then it would limit rpms'

Doh!

Dave G.

On 18 Jun 2009 at 7:17, David Lieb wrote:

>>  Unfortunately, you are
>> barking up the wrong tree; if your air filters are bad enough to
>> affect this that much, you should have cleaned or replaced them long
>> since.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 08:39:54 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:39:54 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] lean mixture question ??
In-Reply-To: <4A39ED59.25663.DF037@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A396627.18801.1FE12A0@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<402188520906180517t6556ae30u8ba9ff6ad65d0931@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A39ED59.25663.DF037@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906180739o6a71c7dw3da4bffaada23922@mail.gmail.com>

> I have original filters, 6" K&N filters and 5" pancake filters. All
> fitted with brand new elements...
> I was thinking that maybe there existed a pressure gradient across
> the filter medium at high volumes but, in retrospect, if there was
> then it would limit rpms'

Likewise, you usually are doing the settings at rather less than "high volume".
I agree that in principle there is a slight difference, but I don't
think the settings are really so precise as to justify it.
How do you get all those filters onto the carbs at one time? ;-)
David L

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 09:43:54 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:43:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] lean mixture question ??
In-Reply-To: <402188520906180739o6a71c7dw3da4bffaada23922@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A396627.18801.1FE12A0@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<4A39ED59.25663.DF037@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<402188520906180739o6a71c7dw3da4bffaada23922@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A39FE4A.9710.501E0C@kk7ss.verizon.net>

David L.,

On 18 Jun 2009 at 9:39, David Lieb wrote:
>> How do you get all those filters onto the carbs at one time? ;-)

Wouldn't you like to know...  <G>
Actually, if I ever get the Beast on the road, my thinking was as 
follows.
The original filters are for if I ever get to a show with other LBC's 
present.
The K&N's would be for SCCA Solo II events.
And I forgot to mention that I have a set of highly chromed 
6"diameter 1.5" deep filters that would be to impress the 'local 
yokels' at the local '60s Hot Rod Show. They just drool over chrome!

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From mikey at b2systems.com  Thu Jun 18 10:01:34 2009
From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:01:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <4A3A46CC.50404@sbcglobal.net>
References: <mailman.8731.1245322766.20693.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4A3A46CC.50404@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <1245340894.27370.65.camel@WebBrowser>

 Someone said...

> In consideration of my marriage, we will be using a tow dolly to drag my 

 Then someone else said...

> I am going, but, unfortunately (fortunately for my marriage) not in
> the Midget. We will be going in the Mini Clubman.

 Geez, you guys need new wives !!!  either that or you just don't want
to admit to the group that you are getting old.

 If I told my wife that we were going to tow the Singer or Dino to a
show, she would strongly suggest that if I am too old to drive the
thing, its time to sell it.

 Then again, my wife loves convertibles as much as I do and is never
happy when we take the truck somewhere, remember that convertible Dodge
pickup a very long time ago ? what a great truck...why wont they build a
convertible 3/4ton ?

 Come on, take the top off and drive the thing, you and your wife will
love it.

  Mike (yes, I do practice what I preach and happily married 31 years
and counting)

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 18 10:06:32 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] X in Chitown
Message-ID: <992109.49091.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Of course this conflicts with race weekend @!#!!, but for a fun weekend:

http://www.nbcchicago.com/around_town/the_scene/What-Youre-Doing-Tonight-618-CHI.html


Ron

From jfishbein at snet.net  Thu Jun 18 10:14:09 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:14:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
Message-ID: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Whether one does it or not, has done it or not, Spridgets were not designed as
a highway car. While a handful might consider them fun on the interstate for
days on end, it equates to punishment for most others.

Considering a 2,000 mile trip in a Spridget unappealing  has nothing to do
with one's enthusiasm for the car.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT


--- On Thu, 6/18/09, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:

From: mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:01 PM



 Come on, take the top off and drive the thing, you and your wife will
love it.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 10:31:45 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:31:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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> Considering a 2,000 mile trip in a Spridget unappealing  has nothing to do
> with one's enthusiasm for the car.

Sounds like the kind of opinions we used to expect from tinydog...

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 18 10:37:56 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:37:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
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References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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> Whether one does it or not, has done it or not, Spridgets were not 
> designed as
> a highway car.

Is everyone here too young to remember what driving conditions were like 40 
years ago?  When I was dating my wife in a Sprite, the speed limit on the 
biggest 4-lane highway in Honolulu was 35 mph (with on-ramps to match)!  I 
had to go out in the country to drive faster than 50 mph, and that was 
flying.  People drove a little faster on the Mainland, but not much.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 18 10:52:02 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:52:02 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <CC62B498A3F14596A5240A453881CCF0@Home>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CC62B498A3F14596A5240A453881CCF0@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W400613DC135DCBC3F885A9B83D0@phx.gbl>

Really?  40 years ago I was too young to drive, but 37 years ago, when I did
get my license, the highway speed was 60mph up here and after a bit it was
more common to drive 80.  That wasn't in an LBC though.



> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:37:56 -0400
>
> > Whether one does it or not, has done it or not, Spridgets were not
> > designed as
> > a highway car.
>
> Is everyone here too young to remember what driving conditions were like 40
> years ago? When I was dating my wife in a Sprite, the speed limit on the
> biggest 4-lane highway in Honolulu was 35 mph (with on-ramps to match)! I
> had to go out in the country to drive faster than 50 mph, and that was
> flying. People drove a little faster on the Mainland, but not much.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY

From jmfarley61 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 10:55:28 2009
From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com (John Farley)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:55:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Back on the List?
Message-ID: <69759f980906180955m12ed9309tf8bfd95355673d3@mail.gmail.com>

This is a test.  I think I am back on the list.  I could not get things to
work with AOL so I changed to gmail.  Let's see if this works.

John

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 11:04:06 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:04:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Back on the List?
In-Reply-To: <69759f980906180955m12ed9309tf8bfd95355673d3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <69759f980906180955m12ed9309tf8bfd95355673d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A3A1116.1579.9988C1@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Cogito ergo sum ??

On 18 Jun 2009 at 12:55, John Farley wrote:

>> This is a test.  I think I am back on the list.  I could not get
>> things to work with AOL so I changed to gmail.  Let's see if this
>> works.

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 11:06:51 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:06:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W400613DC135DCBC3F885A9B83D0@phx.gbl>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CC62B498A3F14596A5240A453881CCF0@Home>
	<BAY112-W400613DC135DCBC3F885A9B83D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520906181006t3e004d02i1520133c78d34b3f@mail.gmail.com>

> Really?  40 years ago I was too young to drive, but 37 years ago, when I
did
> get my license, the highway speed was 60mph up here and after a bit it was
> more common to drive 80.  That wasn't in an LBC though.

35 years ago in 1974 a national speed limit in the US was instituted
that DROPPED the limit to 55mph. I have to believe that the ability to
cruise at speeds higher than that WAS a design parameter as well as a
justification for the ever-increasing engine sizes and diff ratios
used in Spridgets. Is it the best feature of a Spridget? Not really.
But these are versatile little cars and I would hate to be the
limiting factor.
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 18 11:30:33 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:30:33 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <402188520906181006t3e004d02i1520133c78d34b3f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CC62B498A3F14596A5240A453881CCF0@Home>
	<BAY112-W400613DC135DCBC3F885A9B83D0@phx.gbl> 
	<402188520906181006t3e004d02i1520133c78d34b3f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W3102ED4E89F198ADA9B1C3B83D0@phx.gbl>

We had the speed reduction also.



We also had a change to metric around there somewhere.  The internet tells me
it was in '71, but the internet also says this: "Driving in Canada might be
quite different from driving in the USA. In Canada people drive on the right
hand side of the road. ... "  ( from: http://www.driving-in.com/canada/ )

> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:06:51 -0500
>
> > Really? 40 years ago I was too young to drive, but 37 years ago, when I
> did
> > get my license, the highway speed was 60mph up here and after a bit it
was
> > more common to drive 80. That wasn't in an LBC though.
>
> 35 years ago in 1974 a national speed limit in the US was instituted
> that DROPPED the limit to 55mph. I have to believe that the ability to
> cruise at speeds higher than that WAS a design parameter as well as a
> justification for the ever-increasing engine sizes and diff ratios
> used in Spridgets. Is it the best feature of a Spridget? Not really.
> But these are versatile little cars and I would hate to be the
> limiting factor.
> David L

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 18 11:30:31 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:30:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <63A5AA9C9BF442A7AF08BA67F7A56852@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Fishbein" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009


Whether one does it or not, has done it or not, Spridgets were not designed 
as
a highway car. While a handful might consider them fun on the interstate for
days on end, it equates to punishment for most others.

Considering a 2,000 mile trip in a Spridget unappealing  has nothing to do
with one's enthusiasm for the car.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT


=========================

Not to mention that, I'll bet, the average age of this group is over 50 
which means our bodies have been through a lot and many of us just can't 
hack that kind of mileage in anything but a comfortable cruiser anymore. 
Yep, I'm one of them.

Larry

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Jun 18 11:37:11 2009
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:37:11 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] MG2009
Message-ID: <20090618.113711.27163.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>

I'll be there with the '58 and a friend with a '67 B Funkhana on thursday,
Rallye and BBQ on Friday. Leaving wife and kids at home HEE HEE See you all
there. (Red '58 BE with cracked paint-CO tags)


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
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From biffjones at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 12:05:22 2009
From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:05:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach rebuild
Message-ID: <084843F162DB48E19F7430B9365EDB28@dell1>

After 48 years of faithful service, the tach in my Mk-II has decided to pack
it up. I kept twisting off tach cables and 'thought' I had cured the problems
with a tach generator rebuild, new outer and inner cables only to find out the
real culprit was the tach itself. It is frozen!

Now to the point, who does the best rebuilds?  Nosinger(sp?), MoMaw, or
????????. Cosmetically mine is perfect but the guts are fubar.

Biff Jones
'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye
'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite in the "Healey Book"
http://sprites2.homestead.com/


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From heard at datatrontech.net  Thu Jun 18 12:55:12 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:55:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG2009
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References: <20090618.113711.27163.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <3c7101c9f046$4f8dcd80$1801010a@xp>

Oh, man....you better be careful what you put in writing... 

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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 1:37 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] MG2009

I'll be there with the '58 and a friend with a '67 B Funkhana on thursday,
Rallye and BBQ on Friday. Leaving wife and kids at home HEE HEE See you all
there. (Red '58 BE with cracked paint-CO tags)


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From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Jun 18 13:06:11 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:06:11 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <194AA603205C4A858D4D49839509F488@dell330>

Surely Spridgets were designed as a UK highway sports car?  Our highways 
were winding and twisty and narrow and when you got onto the country roads 
you could be in a position where you had to reverse to move onto the verge 
and let an oncoming car pass.   We could not (and still cannot) compete with 
your Highway systems.

In those days the whole of the UK had 2 motorways (2 lanes in each direction 
with hard shoulders / safety margins)  the M1 and the M6, and there was no 
speed limit on those.  You could go as fast as the car would let you.  Many 
other roads, both major and non-town ones were 'derestricted'  (no speed 
limit) and the common thing to hold you back was simply getting behind the 
'cloth cap' driver in his 3 speed family saloon.  Driving was a skill then, 
not just a 'hug the bumper of the car in front with your wheels next to the 
centre line' experience as it is today.

If you drove 2,000 miles in the UK that was around 3 months average driving 
distance for the 'cloth cap' man.  Todays average annual UK driving  is only 
around 13-14,000 miles.

Our 70mph limit was brought in as a road safety measure but a fuel shortage 
was a very handy tag to use to initiate it.

Guy R Day



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Fishbein" <jfishbein at snet.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009


> Whether one does it or not, has done it or not, Spridgets were not 
> designed as
> a highway car. While a handful might consider them fun on the interstate 
> for
> days on end, it equates to punishment for most others.
>
> Considering a 2,000 mile trip in a Spridget unappealing  has nothing to do
> with one's enthusiasm for the car.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/18/09, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:
>
> From: mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:01 PM
>
>
>
> Come on, take the top off and drive the thing, you and your wife will
> love it.
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 18 13:22:43 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:22:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Back on the List?
Message-ID: <558162.17404.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I understand, therefore I add?

--- On Thu, 6/18/09, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:


From: Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Back on the List?
To: "Spridgets mailing list" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:04 PM


Cogito ergo sum ??

On 18 Jun 2009 at 12:55, John Farley wrote:

>> This is a test.  I think I am back on the list.  I could not get
>> things to work with AOL so I changed to gmail.  Let's see if this
>> works.

--
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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 13:25:35 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:25:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <63A5AA9C9BF442A7AF08BA67F7A56852@Larry>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<63A5AA9C9BF442A7AF08BA67F7A56852@Larry>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906181225u30ff2a89k59841856985cb9fc@mail.gmail.com>

In April I did a 7 day 2100 mile trip on a 1964 motorcycle with no
windshield or fairing. No problems - no Interstates - one day of rain and a
lot of fun. I'm 65 this year. Ya'll are Wussies!

BTW, if anyone wants to come this way either going to or returning from
MG2009 I'm good for at meal, some Spridget lies and a few brews.  I'd offer
sleeping space but have parts of the house torn up at the moment.  Dodge
City, Kansas - right on highway US 50.  Lemme know.
--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 13:38:12 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:38:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <194AA603205C4A858D4D49839509F488@dell330>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<194AA603205C4A858D4D49839509F488@dell330>
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Passing in a Spridget is STILL a skill as far as I am concerned.
I run about 20 miles on a back twisty highway, when I go to work. One lane
each way, lots of tractors and such, as well as the plethora of drivers that
have difficulty understanding the meaning of the speed limit sign. 70 means
SEVENTY FIVE!!!
I just watch the oncoming traffic, and hang back about 50 yards off the car
in front. Once I gauge the speed of the oncoming car, I floor the Sprite (I
don't drive it every day, mind you) and if I have calculated correctly, I am
just about on the bumper of the car ahead of me, when the other car passes.
Hit the other lane, FLY past the slow driver, and whip back in front of him.
Proceed on at a mere 5 mph over the posted limit, and all is well.
This really pisses off "Bubba" in his pick up truck. They just can't handle
a car small enough to fit in the bed of their truck, flying by, and leaving
them behind.
I like to refer to it as "automotive emasculation". And when you do it with
a Spridget, it REALLY HURTS!!!

LOL

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, GUY DAY <grday at btinternet.com> wrote:

>   Driving was a skill then, not just a 'hug the bumper of the car in front
> with your wheels next to the centre line' experience as it is today.
>
>
>
> Guy R Day

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 13:57:29 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:57:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090906181238r2a18b0c7ne0f0c716763a2fea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <402188520906181257sf96ee59qbd3f1851d644da15@mail.gmail.com>

Guy,
The OPEC fuel crunch was used as the justification of our 55MOPH
national limit as well. It was predicated to reduce consumption by a
stupefying 2.5 percent. In actuality, it has since been determined
that it might half save one half of one percent. Meanwhile, it changed
a nation of drivers that frequently observed the speed limit as well
as other laws into a nation which realized that it was going to break
that law, so why stop there? In the Chicago area there are roads where
the norm, as stated by the gendarmes who enforce it, is that as long
as you are within 15mph of the posted limit, you will not be pulled
over. Other areas at specific times of day you can be driving 30mph
over and have people flying by you. As Brad says, if you are not at
LEAST 5 over if not 10 over, you run the risk of inciting road rage in
the other drivers on the road. Anyone poking along at the posted speed
limit is considered a road hazard. I just drove my Bugeye about 2000
miles this past weekend (actually from Friday morning to Monday
evening) on roads that were primarily 70mph. I felt rather guilty that
I was not doing at least 80 the whole time.
David L

From gjbranch at comcast.net  Thu Jun 18 14:04:29 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:04:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><194AA603205C4A858D4D49839509F488@dell330><e98d88090906181238r2a18b0c7ne0f0c716763a2fea@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <058601c9f04f$fcfbe8e0$0201a8c0@DELL>

It took me 10 years of trying but I finally got a speeding ticket in Montana 
when the national limit was 55.  The fine was $5.00 payable on the spot. 
The trooper didn't have change for a twenty so I had to write him an out of 
state check.  Then we jawboned for about 1/2 hour.  It's a lot less 
contentious when the fine is only five bucks.

I still have the ticket:  Emblazoned across the front in HUGE letters:  This 
will not go on your record.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009


> Guy,
> The OPEC fuel crunch was used as the justification of our 55MOPH
> national limit as well. It was predicated to reduce consumption by a
> stupefying 2.5 percent. In actuality, it has since been determined
> that it might half save one half of one percent. Meanwhile, it changed
> a nation of drivers that frequently observed the speed limit as well
> as other laws into a nation which realized that it was going to break
> that law, so why stop there? In the Chicago area there are roads where
> the norm, as stated by the gendarmes who enforce it, is that as long
> as you are within 15mph of the posted limit, you will not be pulled
> over. Other areas at specific times of day you can be driving 30mph
> over and have people flying by you. As Brad says, if you are not at
> LEAST 5 over if not 10 over, you run the risk of inciting road rage in
> the other drivers on the road. Anyone poking along at the posted speed
> limit is considered a road hazard. I just drove my Bugeye about 2000
> miles this past weekend (actually from Friday morning to Monday
> evening) on roads that were primarily 70mph. I felt rather guilty that
> I was not doing at least 80 the whole time.
> David L
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From cbaustin at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 14:20:20 2009
From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:20:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Kansas Traps
Message-ID: <4A3AA184.5030409@verizon.net>

            "taking I-70 across Kansas"

    Whatever  you do DON'T let Jim Johnson talk you into visiting with 
him in Dodge City.

    Once you get there, ALL the roads out of town are under construction 
and closed and you have to stay there forever!!!

    Good Luck, and, STAY ON RT 70!!

                                                                         CB

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 14:32:10 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:32:10 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Kansas Traps
In-Reply-To: <4A3AA184.5030409@verizon.net>
References: <4A3AA184.5030409@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906181332m644c8862tc94cf6c24b4770c4@mail.gmail.com>

>   Once you get there, ALL the roads out of town are under construction and
> closed and you have to stay there forever!!!

I thought that was Hotel California?

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 14:43:00 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:43:00 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <402188520906181257sf96ee59qbd3f1851d644da15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<194AA603205C4A858D4D49839509F488@dell330>
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May be true in Chicago, but don't trust this line of reason elsewhere.
Oklahoma has recently declared itself a zero tolerance state. In March I
drove into Oklahoma City from the west on I-40 doing the legal 70. As I
approached town the limit goes to 65 and then 60 within about 1/4 of a mile.
I started slowing down at the 65 sign and was nailed not 100 yards from the
60 sign for doing 66. One mile over!!  It cost $160 too!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 2:57 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> Guy,
> The OPEC fuel crunch was used as the justification of our 55MOPH
> national limit as well. It was predicated to reduce consumption by a
> stupefying 2.5 percent. In actuality, it has since been determined
> that it might half save one half of one percent. Meanwhile, it changed
> a nation of drivers that frequently observed the speed limit as well
> as other laws into a nation which realized that it was going to break
> that law, so why stop there? In the Chicago area there are roads where
> the norm, as stated by the gendarmes who enforce it, is that as long
> as you are within 15mph of the posted limit, you will not be pulled
> over. Other areas at specific times of day you can be driving 30mph
> over and have people flying by you. As Brad says, if you are not at
> LEAST 5 over if not 10 over, you run the risk of inciting road rage in
> the other drivers on the road. Anyone poking along at the posted speed
> limit is considered a road hazard. I just drove my Bugeye about 2000
> miles this past weekend (actually from Friday morning to Monday
> evening) on roads that were primarily 70mph. I felt rather guilty that
> I was not doing at least 80 the whole time.
> David L
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sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From bkitterer at me.com  Thu Jun 18 14:43:42 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:43:42 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <63A5AA9C9BF442A7AF08BA67F7A56852@Larry>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<63A5AA9C9BF442A7AF08BA67F7A56852@Larry>
Message-ID: <BA211439-0882-4DD4-898A-497760EF5818@me.com>

In my much younger days we did not give a moments thought to doing 2K+  
trips and indeed did them.  But have to admit that the car with me has  
not seen a trip that size in some time - - just do not want to concede  
that I can not still do it - - - - although the reality maybe the car  
can and I can't.


Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:30 AM, Larry Daniels wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Fishbein" <jfishbein at snet.net>
> To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009
>
>
> Whether one does it or not, has done it or not, Spridgets were not  
> designed
> as
> a highway car. While a handful might consider them fun on the  
> interstate for
> days on end, it equates to punishment for most others.
>
> Considering a 2,000 mile trip in a Spridget unappealing  has nothing  
> to do
> with one's enthusiasm for the car.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT
>
>
> =========================
>
> Not to mention that, I'll bet, the average age of this group is over  
> 50
> which means our bodies have been through a lot and many of us just  
> can't
> hack that kind of mileage in anything but a comfortable cruiser  
> anymore.
> Yep, I'm one of them.
>
> Larry

From haynes386 at netzero.net  Thu Jun 18 14:42:37 2009
From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:42:37 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009 Weather precautions
Message-ID: <20090618.144237.15406.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>

It just occurred to me that some folks might not be acquainted with springtime
weather around the Rockies. We've recently been inundated with some violent
afternoon weather, so if you are planning on driving in from the east, it
might be beneficial if you tried to get into the mountains before noon. We've
had a rash of tornadoes/hail/severe thunderstorms, etc. in the afternoons
throughout the last 2 weeks on the plains to the east of the foothills.
The hailstorms DO extend into the mountains, but the tornadoes do not. What
ever weather you are accustomed to, we may have some, plan accordingly. I've
seen snow in every month of the year (including on the 4th of July numerous
times).
Hope this helps your planning.


Mark Haynes
HAN6L12779
HAN5L8016

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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 14:44:09 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:44:09 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Kansas Traps
In-Reply-To: <4A3AA184.5030409@verizon.net>
References: <4A3AA184.5030409@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906181344m2c8ebb8dld91ad26b3be679f1@mail.gmail.com>

Damn, Charlie!!  I paid you good money to keep quiet about that!!   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Charley Braum <cbaustin at verizon.net> wrote:

>           "taking I-70 across Kansas"
>
>   Whatever  you do DON'T let Jim Johnson talk you into visiting with him in
> Dodge City.
>
>   Once you get there, ALL the roads out of town are under construction and
> closed and you have to stay there forever!!!
>
>   Good Luck, and, STAY ON RT 70!!
>
>                                                                        CB
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 18 14:58:20 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:58:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><194AA603205C4A858D4D49839509F488@dell330><e98d88090906181238r2a18b0c7ne0f0c716763a2fea@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520906181257sf96ee59qbd3f1851d644da15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <640FCE439115479DB1709358DBBB6A3F@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>

In the Chicago area there are roads where
the norm, as stated by the gendarmes who enforce it, is that as long
as you are within 15mph of the posted limit, you will not be pulled
over. Other areas at specific times of day you can be driving 30mph
over and have people flying by you.

David L
_______________________________________________

David, when you stray across the cheddar curtain, get those ideas out of 
your head.  The WI state patrol has no sense of humor.

Larry 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 15:16:28 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:16:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <640FCE439115479DB1709358DBBB6A3F@Larry>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<640FCE439115479DB1709358DBBB6A3F@Larry>
Message-ID: <4A3A4C3C.20487.180965D@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Must be talking about The Loop... Just like the Dallas-Ft Worth 
circular road...

Here we have zero tolerance. My boy just got nailed for doing 65 in a 
60 zone --- on a 8 lane highway with no traffic!!

$134!!

They're gonna raise the money somewhere, and we motorists are the 
easiest to target!

On 18 Jun 2009 at 15:58, Larry Daniels wrote:

>> In the Chicago area there are roads where
>> the norm, as stated by the gendarmes who enforce it, is that as long
>> as you are within 15mph of the posted limit, you will not be pulled
>> over. Other areas at specific times of day you can be driving 30mph
>> over and have people flying by you.


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Jun 18 15:24:44 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:24:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach rebuild
In-Reply-To: <084843F162DB48E19F7430B9365EDB28@dell1>
Message-ID: <C65FFEAC.17F74%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I have a '62 tach I don't need. Does that help?

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Thu Jun 18 15:26:35 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:26:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <402188520906181257sf96ee59qbd3f1851d644da15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C65FFF1B.17F75%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> justification of our 55MOPH
> national limit 
It wasn't ALL states...just those that wanted to keep their block-grant
money.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 15:26:05 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:26:05 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009 Weather precautions
In-Reply-To: <20090618.144237.15406.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090618.144237.15406.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906181426p504edbb9t6ae3d2189b835f17@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

I just got done doing peer review on a paper which documents a tornado in
the Sangre De Cristo range.  I've personally seen one near Estes Park years
ago. They may be rare in the mountains, but they are not unknown. I agree
though...  Hail storms east of the front range are by far the bigger threat
to an LBC. The hail gets big enough to punch holes in a rag top too....   I
just got a big check from my insurance company to cover hail damage to my
2005 Chev pick-up, my roof, 2 broken windows and new paint on the
clapboards.....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Mark Haynes <haynes386 at netzero.net> wrote:

> It just occurred to me that some folks might not be acquainted with
> springtime
> weather around the Rockies. We've recently been inundated with some violent
> afternoon weather, so if you are planning on driving in from the east, it
> might be beneficial if you tried to get into the mountains before noon.
> We've
> had a rash of tornadoes/hail/severe thunderstorms, etc. in the afternoons
> throughout the last 2 weeks on the plains to the east of the foothills.
> The hailstorms DO extend into the mountains, but the tornadoes do not. What
> ever weather you are accustomed to, we may have some, plan accordingly.
> I've
> seen snow in every month of the year (including on the 4th of July numerous
> times).
> Hope this helps your planning.
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> HAN6L12779
> HAN5L8016
>
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 15:42:36 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:42:36 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <402188520906181257sf96ee59qbd3f1851d644da15@mail.gmail.com>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<194AA603205C4A858D4D49839509F488@dell330>
	<e98d88090906181238r2a18b0c7ne0f0c716763a2fea@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520906181257sf96ee59qbd3f1851d644da15@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0906181442t47695ff0l9244876b80cbcc98@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 1:57 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
The OPEC fuel crunch was used as the justification of our 55MOPH
national limit as well. It was predicated to reduce consumption by a
stupefying 2.5 percent. In actuality, it has since been determined
that it might half save one half of one percent.


Actually, in the real world, you can save a lot more gas if you drive a bit
slower! I just drove over 3,000 miles this month. My last minute trip to Key
West was done at 58 to 62 MPH for the most part since I was in no hurry
either way. My 07 Chebbie HHR got as high as 39.24 MPG and had an overall
average of 35.94 MPG. That included all the city driving, construction
zones, driving rains, and other obstructions to steady highway speeds.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From dwgwater at hotmail.com  Thu Jun 18 15:54:31 2009
From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:54:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] cool gadget
Message-ID: <BLU147-W5745D39787AC24AA0761FCE3D0@phx.gbl>

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=EM281&cpc=SCH



Dunno how I've lived without one of these all these years....



Dave

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From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 18 16:11:35 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:11:35 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <640FCE439115479DB1709358DBBB6A3F@Larry>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJEECDDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<The WI state patrol has no sense of humor.>>

Gospel, LAD !!!!

I was going to the Dipper (west of Brat Stop<G>)
last year and was in the 'slo-down' mode and got
stopped on I-294 at 3 over.  

Got a "Slow Down, Sir!!"

BIG Phew<G> because had I been on the return
trip I WOULD have had lunch (& a brew or 2-2)
at said Brat Stop !!!  LOL

Moi

PS:  BTW, County Mounties fall into same 'class'!

From bkitterer at me.com  Thu Jun 18 16:32:29 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:32:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <C65FFF1B.17F75%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C65FFF1B.17F75%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <89FCC1D7-0EB1-413E-8897-F35C229E7BF6@me.com>

That was true for only about three months, Arizona, Nevada an I think  
Montana were hold outs .  There was a very good article in R&T 6-12  
months later on the effects of the 55 limit.  The bottom line was that  
the drop in gas usage was the result of people driving less.  This was  
true in both the states that adopted the 55 limit and the hold outs  
were some had no speed limits.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 18, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> justification of our 55MOPH
>> national limit
> It wasn't ALL states...just those that wanted to keep their block- 
> grant
> money.
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 18 16:43:29 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:43:29 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><194AA603205C4A858D4D49839509F488@dell330><e98d88090906181238r2a18b0c7ne0f0c716763a2fea@mail.gmail.com><402188520906181257sf96ee59qbd3f1851d644da15@mail.gmail.com>
	<b777e2be0906181442t47695ff0l9244876b80cbcc98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ED213A8580C0429FA900535CF121ECBE@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CosmicMag1380" <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com>


Actually, in the real world, you can save a lot more gas if you drive a bit
slower! I just drove over 3,000 miles this month. My last minute trip to Key
West was done at 58 to 62 MPH for the most part since I was in no hurry
either way. My 07 Chebbie HHR got as high as 39.24 MPG and had an overall
average of 35.94 MPG. That included all the city driving, construction
zones, driving rains, and other obstructions to steady highway speeds.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
_______________________________________________

Kent, not in any way saying this was you, but there was an article in the 
online Autoweek just today about "hypermiling".

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090617/FREE/906179971

LAD 

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Thu Jun 18 16:57:21 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:57:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJEECDDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <20090618225721.OI1RD.213272.root@hrndva-web08-z01>

we send them photos of you :)

Chris
---- Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote: 
> <<The WI state patrol has no sense of humor.>>
> 
> Gospel, LAD !!!!
> 
> I was going to the Dipper (west of Brat Stop<G>)
> last year and was in the 'slo-down' mode and got
> stopped on I-294 at 3 over.  
> 
> Got a "Slow Down, Sir!!"
> 
> BIG Phew<G> because had I been on the return
> trip I WOULD have had lunch (& a brew or 2-2)
> at said Brat Stop !!!  LOL
> 
> Moi
> 
> PS:  BTW, County Mounties fall into same 'class'!

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 18 17:17:03 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:17:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
References: <20090618225721.OI1RD.213272.root@hrndva-web08-z01>
Message-ID: <9C6BA428CF9E4B15ADE372A03FD9E5F1@Larry>

They send them back and ask that we stop doing that.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cmanuel at wi.rr.com>
To: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009


we send them photos of you :)

Chris
---- Ed's Shop <shop at justbrits.com> wrote:
> <<The WI state patrol has no sense of humor.>>
>
> Gospel, LAD !!!!
>
> I was going to the Dipper (west of Brat Stop<G>)
> last year and was in the 'slo-down' mode and got
> stopped on I-294 at 3 over.
>
> Got a "Slow Down, Sir!!"
>
> BIG Phew<G> because had I been on the return
> trip I WOULD have had lunch (& a brew or 2-2)
> at said Brat Stop !!!  LOL
>
> Moi
>
> PS:  BTW, County Mounties fall into same 'class'!
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Thu Jun 18 17:48:02 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:48:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <1245340894.27370.65.camel@WebBrowser>
References: <mailman.8731.1245322766.20693.spridgets@autox.team.net>
	<4A3A46CC.50404@sbcglobal.net> <1245340894.27370.65.camel@WebBrowser>
Message-ID: <4A3AD232.7060500@frontiernet.net>

I agree completely!  Madge, if mechanically able, will be arriving at 
SCUM 50 under her own power. Unfortunately, I have yet to recruit a 
navigator who is as insane as I am, so I guess Bonnie & I will be going 
by ourselves.

Kate
>
>  If I told my wife that we were going to tow the Singer or Dino to a
> show, she would strongly suggest that if I am too old to drive the
> thing, its time to sell it.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Jun 18 18:26:25 2009
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:26:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <89FCC1D7-0EB1-413E-8897-F35C229E7BF6@me.com>
References: <C65FFF1B.17F75%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<89FCC1D7-0EB1-413E-8897-F35C229E7BF6@me.com>
Message-ID: <CED6FE61-7A78-4472-A306-BC1408F2D236@phillymgclub.com>

Wyoming was a hold out and we had $$$ from mineral mining. I am not  
sure how long the state legislature fought it, but they gave in in the  
end.

Somewhere I read that one of the justifications for the lower limit  
was saving lives. Then a study showed that in the big wide open states  
in the midwest, WY included, more lives were lost due to people  
falling asleep from being bored. The trade off was about equal.

Now as a side note, I started this. Now, I made a joke about Theresa  
not wanting to do this. The reality is that my Midget needs a motor  
"refreshing" and I wouldn't trust it. I also added a side trip to WY  
to play a round of golf in memory of my Dad and step Mother. That  
meant I had to haul golf clubs, in addition to traveling nearly 5000  
miles in 2 weeks.

A couple years ago THeresa and I went to Stowe (British Invasion), Mt  
Washington, Nantucket and home in about 10 days. Top down the entire  
drive. Ended up about 2600 miles. She never complained. She would do  
this, but I don't trust the motor to make it, and I have no place to  
haul clubs. I will have a "refreshed" motor in 2011 and be driving to  
WI for Midget 50th.

BTW, My ex and I did the whole Skyline Drive, Blue Ridge thing and we  
had 4 folks in Midget and a motorcycle. Camped every night. About 2700  
miles. Including camping gear and replacing an alternator in the  
pouring rain outside Monticello.

Then there was the BABE rallye.

So I can do it, Just not this time.

Larry

On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:32 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote:

> That was true for only about three months, Arizona, Nevada an I  
> think Montana were hold outs .  There was a very good article in R&T  
> 6-12 months later on the effects of the 55 limit.  The bottom line  
> was that the drop in gas usage was the result of people driving  
> less.  This was true in both the states that adopted the 55 limit  
> and the hold outs were some had no speed limits.
>
> Bob Kitterer
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:
>
>>> justification of our 55MOPH
>>> national limit
>> It wasn't ALL states...just those that wanted to keep their block- 
>> grant
>> money.
>> _______________________________________________
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a  
parked car.

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Jun 18 18:35:39 2009
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:35:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <2872300E-0272-4165-9BBF-DADF1AF34B7A@phillymgclub.com>
References: <2872300E-0272-4165-9BBF-DADF1AF34B7A@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <02DF475B-AE1B-434B-A19C-12997B1FD827@phillymgclub.com>

For all those that replied, and there were a few. We'll be in the 2009  
Mini (with golf clubs) and I'll be wearing a Spridget shirt, nearly  
all the time. Take that MG folks ;-)

Larry

On Jun 18, 2009, at 6:59 AM, Larry Macy wrote:

> Any of ya'll fellow travelers going to Breckenridge, CO for MG 2009
> next week??
>
> I am going, but, unfortunately (fortunately for my marriage) not in
> the Midget. We will be going in the Mini Clubman.
>
> Let me know and we can meet up for lunch or a beer at 11,000 feet.
>
> Larry
>
> -- 
>
> Larry Macy
> 78 Midget
>
> Keep your top down and your chin up.
>
> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
> lmacy at phillymgclub.com
> Board Member at Large
> Philadelphia MG Club
>
>
>
> "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've
> never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
lmacy at phillymgclub.com
Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club

Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a  
question and you're a fool for the rest of your life.

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 18 18:39:31 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:39:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear ad
Message-ID: <960512.64649.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm sure I'm not the only Top Gear fan on the list...  A friend just forwarded
me a current ad for the show.  Very cool.  Wish BBC America would bring us the
most recent shows rather than those that are a couple years old...
 
Enjoy



http://www.finalgear.com/news/2009/06/18/top-gear-season-13-advert-2/

From bkitterer at me.com  Thu Jun 18 18:40:44 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:40:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <CED6FE61-7A78-4472-A306-BC1408F2D236@phillymgclub.com>
References: <C65FFF1B.17F75%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
	<89FCC1D7-0EB1-413E-8897-F35C229E7BF6@me.com>
	<CED6FE61-7A78-4472-A306-BC1408F2D236@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <2659989B-6EB3-4203-9EC4-045815AE7950@me.com>

You are correct.  I have forgotten the group pushing "Lower Speeds  
Saves Life's"  They made a very big deal of the drop in deaths due to  
auto accidents after the 55 limit went into effect but ignored that  
the number of miles driven had made a big drop.  They also ignored  
that the 55 limit only applied to highways which historically had the  
lowest auto accident deaths, if you look at deaths per 1000 miles.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 18, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Larry  wrote:

> Somewhere I read that one of the justifications for the lower limit
> was saving lives. Then a study showed that in the big wide open states
> in the midwest, WY included, more lives were lost due to people
> falling asleep from being bored. The trade off was about equa

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 18 19:44:41 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:44:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <63A5AA9C9BF442A7AF08BA67F7A56852@Larry>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJCECKDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Not to mention that, I'll bet, the average age of this group is over 50
which means our bodies have been through a lot>>

Agreed Larry<G>(!!), BUT...

<< and many of us just can't hack that kind of mileage in anything but a
comfortable cruiser anymore. >>

er in YOUR 'case', GIRTH might have a LOT to do with it !!!!!

HeeHeeHeeHee!!!!

Anon Flatlander

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 18 19:52:41 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:52:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090906181238r2a18b0c7ne0f0c716763a2fea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJGECKDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<One lane each way, lots of tractors and such, 
as well as the plethora of drivers that have 
difficulty understanding the meaning of the 
speed limit sign.>>

Brad, whilst I HAVE 'witnessed dat you HAVE
neglected to say that TX 'one laners' DO have
the GREATEST & WIDEST shoulders which I
am NOT espousing be used BUT A Spridget
would have MORE then enough space to "pass
on the right" (ILlegal in majority of States BUT
so is 75mph in a posted 70mph zone)<VBG>!!!

So a Spridgeteer in TX could have a TON of
'fun' scaring the begeeish out of Bubba<G>!!

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 18 19:57:03 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:57:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906181343m1d4450dcjc9c1d27b61db32dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJKECKDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<I started slowing down at the 65 sign>>

And THERE IS your prob, Jim.  Rule of
thumb of any Officer is that if a driver can
READ a Regulatory Sign, a motorist damned 
well BEST be OBEYING it.  I HAVE seen
Judges DISMISS cases where the reverse
was the truth, right Kate, Nory, Kent???

<G>

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 18 19:59:16 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:59:16 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <4A3A4C3C.20487.180965D@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJOECKDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<and we motorists are the 
easiest to target!>>

ONLY the ones that CHOOSE to DISREGARD
the LAWs, Dave<G>!!

He 'earned' it !!

Ed

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 18 20:01:58 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:01:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0906181442t47695ff0l9244876b80cbcc98@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJCECLDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<...I was in no hurry either way.>>

Kent, as you well KNOW there is NO
being 'in a hurry' in a motor vehicle!!

<VBG>!!!

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Jun 18 20:01:57 2009
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:01:57 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG2009
In-Reply-To: <20090618.113711.27163.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090618.113711.27163.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <17FD1F7D-5F5B-4FC0-AF45-58FFAB34D607@phillymgclub.com>

Mark, we are doing the Rally and the BBQ. If I miss you elsewhere,  
I'll meet ya there.

Larry
2009 MINI w/ Golf Clubs

On Jun 18, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Mark Haynes wrote:

> I'll be there with the '58 and a friend with a '67 B Funkhana on  
> thursday,
> Rallye and BBQ on Friday. Leaving wife and kids at home HEE HEE See  
> you all
> there. (Red '58 BE with cracked paint-CO tags)
>
>
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Keep your top down and your chin up.

Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
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Board Member at Large
Philadelphia MG Club



"I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've  
never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 18 20:04:40 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:04:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <20090618225721.OI1RD.213272.root@hrndva-web08-z01>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJGECLDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

Nice 'try', Chris BUT...

<<we send them photos of you :)>>

mine are NOT hung in Squad Rooms, Station(s)
Lobbies AND the U.S. Post Office like your's
ARE<VBG>!!!!

Flatlander Ed

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 20:08:59 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:08:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJGECLDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>
References: <20090618225721.OI1RD.213272.root@hrndva-web08-z01>
	<OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJGECLDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906181908t5c2b7d6en91db1bf1e97ea01@mail.gmail.com>

>> I started slowing down at the 65 sign

> And THERE IS your prob, Jim.  Rule of
> thumb of any Officer is that if a driver can
> READ a Regulatory Sign, a motorist damned
> well BEST be OBEYING it.  I HAVE seen
> Judges DISMISS cases where the reverse
> was the truth, right Kate, Nory, Kent???

Uh ED, here in Illinois, there is a 500' limit surrounding a change of
speed limit in which they are not allowed to stop you for speeding.
Police chief down in Rochester, IL lost his job because of that one.
David L

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 20:29:02 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:29:02 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Steering wheel restoration site ....all steps
	included.
Message-ID: <205cef430906181929t73ed4db9o801e8330cd0254d8@mail.gmail.com>

List,
I just got this link from the VW forums which will cover all car steering
wheels. The best thing about it is the many steps and photos included. Also
below is the recommended site for sending them out and having them done for
you. This guy Koch takes the wheels down to metal frame and recasts them,
although they are so expensive I'd go with a home made restoration myself.
Enjoy,
Lin

http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqstrg.htm

http://www.kochssteeringwheels.com/productcart/pc/mainIndex.asp

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 20:37:19 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:37:19 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood bead-roller-kit-with-mandrels...anyone use
 it before?
In-Reply-To: <4A396A18.6070601@comcast.net>
References: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJMEPFDIAA.shop@justbrits.com>
	<4A396A18.6070601@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <205cef430906181937w2bd147c9j7b51380ccdb9ceb8@mail.gmail.com>

Frank,
Oh no please don't tell me that Eastwood is crap too! I am glad to know this
but deeply saddened as I wanted to buy some tools from them. So who is left
with good tools any recommendations?
Lin

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Ed's Shop wrote:
>
>> <<> how this works but not sure.
>> Go to your local Harbor Freight store and look at their knock-off.>>
>>
>> Whilst good advise Billy, I would REALLY question the quality vs
>> quality<G>!!!
>>
>> Eastwood IS owned my a MGer and he REALLY cares about HIS
>> Company's quality & products.  Just ONE of the reasons that
>> Eastwood has had CORRECT MG Engine Paint<VBG>!!
>>
>>
>>
> Then again, eastwoods tools are the exact same as horrible freight except
> painted blue not red.
> Made in china too!
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
>
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From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 21:25:32 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:25:32 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] cool gadget
In-Reply-To: <BLU147-W5745D39787AC24AA0761FCE3D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU147-W5745D39787AC24AA0761FCE3D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0906182025m302842ccs44a3f7f2b2cf00fa@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 3:54 PM, David Groundwater <dwgwater at hotmail.com>wrote:
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=EM281&cpc=SCH

Dunno how I've lived without one of these all these years....

I'm old school. If it cranks over and starts, the battery is good. If it
doesn't, could be a bad battery!

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Jun 18 21:59:40 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:59:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <CC62B498A3F14596A5240A453881CCF0@Home>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<CC62B498A3F14596A5240A453881CCF0@Home>
Message-ID: <01F8EB62-9821-4262-9B7C-BA3B7336DC94@ado13.com>

> I remember it well. In 1966 I lived in Pearl City Hawaii and drove a  
> 1966 GTO to work every day. Talk about a waste!  After a few months  
> of that I bought a Bugeye (BUGZUKI) that I still have.

> Is everyone here too young to remember what driving conditions were  
> like 40 years ago?  When I was dating my wife in a Sprite, the speed  
> limit on the biggest 4-lane highway in Honolulu was 35 mph (with on- 
> ramps to match)!  I had to go out in the country to drive faster  
> than 50 mph, and that was flying.  People drove a little faster on  
> the Mainland, but not much.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY _______________________________________________
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 18 22:21:15 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:21:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <01F8EB62-9821-4262-9B7C-BA3B7336DC94@ado13.com>
References: <885551.80431.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>,
	<CC62B498A3F14596A5240A453881CCF0@Home>,
	<01F8EB62-9821-4262-9B7C-BA3B7336DC94@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <4A3AAFCB.23167.1540F04@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I got my Motorcycle license in 1953, my Automobile license in 1955 
and my heavy vehicle license in 1957, and my FIA license in 1959.

If you could make a round trip of ~80 miles without getting a flat 
tire it was considered a lucky day... !!

Changing the tire on a split rim truck tire was no fun.....

On 18 Jun 2009 at 20:59, Larry Miller wrote:

>> > Is everyone here too young to remember what driving conditions were 
>> > like 40 years ago?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Fri Jun 19 00:36:18 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:36:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Steering wheel restoration site ....all steps
 included.
In-Reply-To: <205cef430906181929t73ed4db9o801e8330cd0254d8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430906181929t73ed4db9o801e8330cd0254d8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03130906182336s53cc17e1g9f1456bc84cdb7b7@mail.gmail.com>

Just had Koch restore my BN2 steering wheel.  Did an excellent job.    Cost
almost $200 though.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:

> List,
> I just got this link from the VW forums which will cover all car steering
> wheels. The best thing about it is the many steps and photos included. Also
> below is the recommended site for sending them out and having them done for
> you. This guy Koch takes the wheels down to metal frame and recasts them,
> although they are so expensive I'd go with a home made restoration myself.
> Enjoy,
> Lin
>
> http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqstrg.htm
>
> http://www.kochssteeringwheels.com/productcart/pc/mainIndex.asp
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 03:34:20 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:34:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Cool Steering wheel restoration site ....all steps
 included.
In-Reply-To: <d49b03130906182336s53cc17e1g9f1456bc84cdb7b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <205cef430906181929t73ed4db9o801e8330cd0254d8@mail.gmail.com>
	<d49b03130906182336s53cc17e1g9f1456bc84cdb7b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430906190234q1f16ccadjc298b4a02a3940d7@mail.gmail.com>

Did they recast it for only $200. or do something else?
Lin

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 2:36 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com <
rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Just had Koch restore my BN2 steering wheel.  Did an excellent job.    Cost
> almost $200 though.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> List,
>> I just got this link from the VW forums which will cover all car steering
>> wheels. The best thing about it is the many steps and photos included.
>> Also
>> below is the recommended site for sending them out and having them done
>> for
>> you. This guy Koch takes the wheels down to metal frame and recasts them,
>> although they are so expensive I'd go with a home made restoration myself.
>> Enjoy,
>> Lin
>>
>> http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqstrg.htm
>>
>> http://www.kochssteeringwheels.com/productcart/pc/mainIndex.asp
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Fri Jun 19 10:13:33 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:13:33 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
In-Reply-To: <1C0D1436AF754B21903DF43EECFCEC4E@Home>
References: <1C0D1436AF754B21903DF43EECFCEC4E@Home>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W22772730DFEAF787710C34C23A0@phx.gbl>

Hi Mike,
Probably easiest (heheh, still a PITA and not really easy)way would be heat
gun and a scraper.Then solvent and rags to get the residual.Or since you're
stripping it to a bare shell,flip it over, a little gas to get it started,
light it and wait till it all burns off.<VBG>Well, it WOULD work......don't
know if the Hamptoniteswould be too understanding of all the black smoke
tho....

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:53:40 -0400
> From: mdrowe at optonline.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
>
> It turns out my BE undercoating was put on over bare metal and at least some
of it peals off easily.  So it will have to be stripped.  I don't know what
the undercoating is.  This nasty is like fresh roofing tar; it remains sticky
and makes a mess of anything that touches it.  Maybe it *is* roofing tar.
>
> How do I strip it?  If I use a solvent, it will just dissolve an make a
thinner mess over an even wider area.  I need something that leaves the tar
unable to stick to anything else.  Is there a product that turns oil-based goo
into a jell?  Aircraft Stripper? Eastwood makes a stripper specifically for
undercoating.  Has anyone used it?
>
> Tarball Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite
> Long Island, NY


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From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Fri Jun 19 11:33:39 2009
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:33:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Minor saloon For Sale in North Carolina
Message-ID: <29780908.1245432819374.JavaMail.root@elwamui-huard.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

FYI 
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John Whit <whitj at hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:25 PM
Subject: RE: Morris saloon For Sale

I'm a member of the Morris Minor registry, just haven't taken
the time to place an ad there. You are more thhan welcome to 
get the word out however; Its a 1961 2dr saloon of which I am 
the 3rd owner. Olde English White colour with one respray in 
the original color done just before I bought the car about five 
years ago. 

Its a good running and driving car, everything works except the 
odometer which stopped working about a year ago. The speedometer 
does work. I'm no expert, but I can see no evidence of any 
bodywork or that the car has ever been hit. It spent most of 
its life with the original owners who used it mostly at there
summer vacation home. The odometer read 35,612 miles when it 
stopped working and I do believe that mileage is correct. I am 
in Western NC Murphy area].

John Shepherd
828-837-3571.
<whitj at hotmail.com>

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Fri Jun 19 13:59:09 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:59:09 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W22772730DFEAF787710C34C23A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20090619195909.N5YDK.229963.root@hrndva-web07-z01>

Could there be a way to get dry ice on it and freeze dry it off?

Chris
---- brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi Mike,
> Probably easiest (heheh, still a PITA and not really easy)way would be heat
> gun and a scraper.Then solvent and rags to get the residual.Or since you're
> stripping it to a bare shell,flip it over, a little gas to get it started,
> light it and wait till it all burns off.<VBG>Well, it WOULD work......don't
> know if the Hamptoniteswould be too understanding of all the black smoke
> tho....
> 
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:53:40 -0400
> > From: mdrowe at optonline.net
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
> >
> > It turns out my BE undercoating was put on over bare metal and at least some
> of it peals off easily.  So it will have to be stripped.  I don't know what
> the undercoating is.  This nasty is like fresh roofing tar; it remains sticky
> and makes a mess of anything that touches it.  Maybe it *is* roofing tar.
> >
> > How do I strip it?  If I use a solvent, it will just dissolve an make a
> thinner mess over an even wider area.  I need something that leaves the tar
> unable to stick to anything else.  Is there a product that turns oil-based goo
> into a jell?  Aircraft Stripper? Eastwood makes a stripper specifically for
> undercoating.  Has anyone used it?
> >
> > Tarball Rowe
> > '74 Midget
> > '60 Sprite
> > Long Island, NY

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun 19 14:07:53 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:07:53 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
In-Reply-To: <20090619195909.N5YDK.229963.root@hrndva-web07-z01>
References: <BLU103-W22772730DFEAF787710C34C23A0@phx.gbl>
	<20090619195909.N5YDK.229963.root@hrndva-web07-z01>
Message-ID: <245B6576C5324689ADFAF5864085222F@spider>

That could work. I saw Holmes(Do It Right?) on HGTV use that method to
'sandblast' mold off the underside of an attic roof. Uses dry ice as the
sand. Just find someone in your area that does it or Google it. It would be
worth a try. ...bill in oregon
=============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cmanuel at wi.rr.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:59 PM
To: spridgets list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Undercoating

Could there be a way to get dry ice on it and freeze dry it off?

Chris
---- brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi Mike,
> Probably easiest (heheh, still a PITA and not really easy)way would be
heat
> gun and a scraper.Then solvent and rags to get the residual.Or since
you're
> stripping it to a bare shell,flip it over, a little gas to get it started,
> light it and wait till it all burns off.<VBG>Well, it WOULD
work......don't
> know if the Hamptoniteswould be too understanding of all the black smoke
> tho....
> 
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:53:40 -0400
> > From: mdrowe at optonline.net
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
> >
> > It turns out my BE undercoating was put on over bare metal and at least
some
> of it peals off easily.  So it will have to be stripped.  I don't know
what
> the undercoating is.  This nasty is like fresh roofing tar; it remains
sticky
> and makes a mess of anything that touches it.  Maybe it *is* roofing tar.
> >
> > How do I strip it?  If I use a solvent, it will just dissolve an make a
> thinner mess over an even wider area.  I need something that leaves the
tar
> unable to stick to anything else.  Is there a product that turns oil-based
goo
> into a jell?  Aircraft Stripper? Eastwood makes a stripper specifically
for
> undercoating.  Has anyone used it?
> >
> > Tarball Rowe
> > '74 Midget
> > '60 Sprite
> > Long Island, NY
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 19 16:01:45 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:01:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
In-Reply-To: <20090619195909.N5YDK.229963.root@hrndva-web07-z01>
References: <BLU103-W22772730DFEAF787710C34C23A0@phx.gbl>
	<20090619195909.N5YDK.229963.root@hrndva-web07-z01>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP7942B8AA13C6C0C64877F0B83A0@phx.gbl>

He can use my driveway in February!

RD
Canada

-----Original Message-----

Could there be a way to get dry ice on it and freeze dry it off?

Chris

---- brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi Mike,
> Probably easiest (heheh, still a PITA and not really easy)way would be
heat
> gun and a scraper.Then solvent and rags to get the residual.Or since
you're
> stripping it to a bare shell,flip it over, a little gas to get it started,
> light it and wait till it all burns off.<VBG>Well, it WOULD
work......don't
> know if the Hamptoniteswould be too understanding of all the black smoke
> tho....
> 
> Brian S.
> Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:53:40 -0400
> > From: mdrowe at optonline.net
> > To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> > Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
> >
> > It turns out my BE undercoating was put on over bare metal and at least
some
> of it peals off easily.  So it will have to be stripped.  I don't know
what
> the undercoating is.  This nasty is like fresh roofing tar; it remains
sticky
> and makes a mess of anything that touches it.  Maybe it *is* roofing tar.
> >
> > How do I strip it?  If I use a solvent, it will just dissolve an make a
> thinner mess over an even wider area.  I need something that leaves the
tar
> unable to stick to anything else.  Is there a product that turns oil-based
goo
> into a jell?  Aircraft Stripper? Eastwood makes a stripper specifically
for
> undercoating.  Has anyone used it?
> >
> > Tarball Rowe
> > '74 Midget
> > '60 Sprite
> > Long Island, NY

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun 19 17:04:35 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:04:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Undercoating
Message-ID: <D9734345EA6F475980B37343DBAFF763@spider>

Dry ice blasting:

http://www.diamonddryiceblasting.com/?gclid=CMDanp24l5sCFRYiagod_2ZVqA

 

http://www.njblackmoldremoval.com/

 

=================================================

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 3:02 PM
To: 'spridgets list'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Undercoating

 

He can use my driveway in February!

 

RD

Canada

 

-----Original Message-----

 

Could there be a way to get dry ice on it and freeze dry it off?

 

Chris

 

---- brian S <bugeye15 at hotmail.com> wrote: 

> Hi Mike,

> Probably easiest (heheh, still a PITA and not really easy)way would be

heat

> gun and a scraper.Then solvent and rags to get the residual.Or since

you're

> stripping it to a bare shell,flip it over, a little gas to get it started,

> light it and wait till it all burns off.<VBG>Well, it WOULD

work......don't

> know if the Hamptoniteswould be too understanding of all the black smoke

> tho....

> 

> Brian S.

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun 19 17:05:51 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:05:51 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W22772730DFEAF787710C34C23A0@phx.gbl>
References: <1C0D1436AF754B21903DF43EECFCEC4E@Home>
	<BLU103-W22772730DFEAF787710C34C23A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1E25428848814FAEA49FF1FE531DEB77@Home>

>Well, it WOULD work......don't know if the Hamptonites
>would be too understanding of all the black smoke tho....

As it happens, most of it will be coming out, so I don't have to worry about complete stripping.  The shell is on its side, Clarici-style, and I have started cutting out the floors.  There are places with three layers welded on, one inside and one outside of the original, which is still in place.  It's a mess.  Still not exactly sure what I will uncover when it is all off, but now and then I get glimpses of holes that I wish were not there.  

It is really fortunate that I have a Midget in driving condition, as it takes a lot of pressure off the restoration schedule.  I will do whatever is necessary to make it right, in contrast to the Midget, which I felt compelled to get on the road before Winter set in.  (I did manage to drive it for two weeks before it got too cold without a top.)

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jun 19 17:38:33 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:38:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Old Bugeye Top
Message-ID: <402188520906191638n1bc9c304jf8045baa2c0a8082@mail.gmail.com>

Hey folks,
I am thinking about a project that would require an old Bugeye top for
a 2-stud windshield. Anyone have one with a bad window that they would
be interested in selling?
David L.

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Fri Jun 19 18:06:35 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:06:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating - Rant
In-Reply-To: <D9734345EA6F475980B37343DBAFF763@spider>
References: <D9734345EA6F475980B37343DBAFF763@spider>
Message-ID: <7ll0se$6ipass@email.mtu.edu>

At 07:04 PM 6/19/2009, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
>Dry ice blasting:
>
>http://www.diamonddryiceblasting.com/?gclid=CMDanp24l5sCFRYiagod_2ZVqA

Now wait just a minute! This website says dry ice blasting is a 
"green" environmentally friendly system. Hey, isn't carbon dioxide a 
green house gas??? The "greenie" web sites say it is. Seems like you 
can't have it both ways. I'm waiting for someone to define what our 
planet will be like when we reach the "goal" of having a green 
planet. Is that when Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan are covered 
with 20 feet of ice again?




Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Jun 19 18:14:16 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:14:16 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Stock intake manifold...
Message-ID: <4A3BC768.8882.B64221@kk7ss.verizon.net>

There are three bolt heads on the balance tubre of a stock manifold.
I'm guessing that the middle one was used for the Gulp valve.

I want to get that one off to use as a take-off for my vacuum 
guage...

I can't shift the sucker!!  Would I be risking serious damage if I 
use a 3ft breaker bar on the end of the wrench/socket??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Fri Jun 19 18:28:50 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:28:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Stock intake manifold...
Message-ID: <F531A93654CA486CB4A311CA547A716D@spider>

Maybe try the various oils, lubes, crhmes and salves that help loosen
nuts/bolts first? Take some time; rap, rap with a hammer? ...bill in oregon
======================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 5:14 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Stock intake manifold...

There are three bolt heads on the balance tubre of a stock manifold.
I'm guessing that the middle one was used for the Gulp valve.

I want to get that one off to use as a take-off for my vacuum
guage...

I can't shift the sucker!!  Would I be risking serious damage if I
use a 3ft breaker bar on the end of the wrench/socket??

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
alive !!
_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Fri Jun 19 20:40:16 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:40:16 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Stock intake manifold...
In-Reply-To: <4A3BC768.8882.B64221@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A3BC768.8882.B64221@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4A3C4C10.9080706@comcast.net>

Dave G. wrote:
> There are three bolt heads on the balance tubre of a stock manifold.
> I'm guessing that the middle one was used for the Gulp valve.
>
> I want to get that one off to use as a take-off for my vacuum 
> guage...
>
> I can't shift the sucker!!  
Are you talking about the center bolt?
Early cars had a bolt in the threaded hole, later cars just had a force 
fit pipe.
That bolt should come out fairly easy, maybe it has some corrosion, 
steel bolt, aluminum manifold.
Heat it up with a torch, do mind the carbs as they will have gas in them.
Or try some penetrating oil first.
If it's a pipe, vice grips with a twisting pulling out motion and it 
comes out.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Fri Jun 19 20:56:22 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:56:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach rebuild
References: <084843F162DB48E19F7430B9365EDB28@dell1>
Message-ID: <47213A702C96418F8CDD74920BA46C53@blackbox2>

It might be just gummed up a little (lube dries up over the years).
You might want to take a shot at it yourself.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Biff Jones" <biffjones at verizon.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Tach rebuild


> After 48 years of faithful service, the tach in my Mk-II has decided to pack
> it up. I kept twisting off tach cables and 'thought' I had cured the problems
> with a tach generator rebuild, new outer and inner cables only to find out the
> real culprit was the tach itself. It is frozen!
> 
> Now to the point, who does the best rebuilds?  Nosinger(sp?), MoMaw, or
> ????????. Cosmetically mine is perfect but the guts are fubar.

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 05:06:54 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:06:54 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
In-Reply-To: <1E25428848814FAEA49FF1FE531DEB77@Home>
References: <1C0D1436AF754B21903DF43EECFCEC4E@Home>
	<BLU103-W22772730DFEAF787710C34C23A0@phx.gbl>
	<1E25428848814FAEA49FF1FE531DEB77@Home>
Message-ID: <205cef430906200406k1d303102q831f325139897334@mail.gmail.com>

Michael,
I hope you are taking photos of your resto steps, can you get a picture site
going for all of us to cheer you on? Also who are you buying your floors
from? And what did you end up doing with your shelter problem are you doing
this work in the open? If you are replacing the floors why would you have
undercoating issues or is that just in the corners and front frame section?
Lin


On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:05 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> >Well, it WOULD work......don't know if the Hamptonites
> >would be too understanding of all the black smoke tho....
>
> As it happens, most of it will be coming out, so I don't have to worry
> about complete stripping.  The shell is on its side, Clarici-style, and I
> have started cutting out the floors.  There are places with three layers
> welded on, one inside and one outside of the original, which is still in
> place.  It's a mess.  Still not exactly sure what I will uncover when it is
> all off, but now and then I get glimpses of holes that I wish were not
> there.
>
> It is really fortunate that I have a Midget in driving condition, as it
> takes a lot of pressure off the restoration schedule.  I will do whatever is
> necessary to make it right, in contrast to the Midget, which I felt
> compelled to get on the road before Winter set in.  (I did manage to drive
> it for two weeks before it got too cold without a top.)
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
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From cooper6 at swbell.net  Sat Jun 20 09:11:31 2009
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:11:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] All, Can you believe a teenager did this?
Message-ID: <9D4A857B6A3F4F2C8607E9A244D7C84C@cooper>

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   I had to take a moment to send this to you.......awesome!

 


 

 
















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changing its character many times. A few months back, the rock received its
latest paint job, and since then it has been left completely undisturbed.?

It's quite an impressive sight. Be sure to scroll down and check out the
multiple photos.  (all angles) of the rock.

I thought the flag was draped over the rock, but it's not. It's actually
painted on the rock too.

 





 

 



 



 



 



 




Here's the artist: 

 

Ray 'Bubba' Sorensen . 

 




AWESOME Work, RAY ....?
Thank you!?



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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 20 09:27:45 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:27:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohish, Washington 7/18
Message-ID: <13196.28170.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

So far we have the following cast of characters showing up...  We'll have lots of mechanical support here.  I hope to see more cars to work on so no one is left out of the fun.  Please let me know what you would like to get done on your vehicle and I'll make sure to note it.  We might need some specialty tools for some of the work and it's nice to know before hand.  Schuck's is just down the road, Napa is not too far away also.  Plenty of room in the driveway.  I hope I got everyone that has responded.  If I missed you, apologies!   Just shoot me an email confirming and I'll update this list.   Feel free to call me also.  Looking forward to meeting new people and seeing the others again.   

Bill M - lending a hand
Bill L and Son - lending a hand
Paul A - lending a hand (and eating BBQ Pork sandwiches)
Alan Inglis - Coming from Vancouver, BC - Bringing a Midget to work on 
Mike Burkhart - lending a hand
Phil Jones - Bringing his Sprite to work on and lending a hand
John Colvin - might stop by to observe (and eat BBQ)
Mike Shurtz - Tentative - might bring his '60 Sprite
Rich Ball - you comin' over and bringing your car??
Me - Install engine/Transmission, tuning, and alignment

Thanks, 

Edward Perez
14706 65th Dr SE
Snohomish, WA 98296
425.591.8251

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sat Jun 20 09:32:06 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:32:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] All, Can you believe a teenager did this?
In-Reply-To: <9D4A857B6A3F4F2C8607E9A244D7C84C@cooper>
References: <9D4A857B6A3F4F2C8607E9A244D7C84C@cooper>
Message-ID: <3DFBC9F5ECE14BABBABCF29CDE4BFE72@spider>

http://dalesdesigns.net/Rock.htm

==================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Martin
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:12 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] All, Can you believe a teenager did this?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun 20 10:40:53 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:40:53 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] The first Healey 100
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP9C968BE489E323F1C9A1DB83B0@phx.gbl>

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Fwd: Interesting Healey at Conclave in Kingston


> I thought that the folks in the Healey Club might be interested in  
> this article from the Globle and Mail about Healey No.1
>
> http://tinyurl.com/kw4mrp

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sat Jun 20 11:59:50 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:59:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Vacuum take-off part needed...
Message-ID: <4A3CC126.4124.8774B4@kk7ss.verizon.net>

OK... I've managed to remove the little plug from the front end of 
the stock log manifold where the distributor vacuum take-off would 
go.

Today, I have been to every hardware store in the Tri-City area and 
no-one has the right size adaptor 

It's not listed in the Brit-Vic or Mo$$ catalogues1..
Does anyone have one they could spare??
If necessary, I could return it after use.

Thanks

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Jun 20 18:12:05 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:12:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolster chisel
Message-ID: <DADB5E53A9A7420F8BCC0E699D093259@Home>

One of the restoration manuals mentions a bolster chisel, which in the book appears to be shaped like a wood chisel - thin and flat on one side.  I once had a small one of these with a handle bent upward for cutting flush, now long lost.  I have not been able to find a metal-cutting chisel that is either flat on one side or very thin.  Is there another name for this kind of tool?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From duncan at pondhop.com  Sat Jun 20 18:42:37 2009
From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:42:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolster chisel
In-Reply-To: <DADB5E53A9A7420F8BCC0E699D093259@Home>
References: <DADB5E53A9A7420F8BCC0E699D093259@Home>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJ13JjI2fhFHrY+8Rgx7QZTCgAAAEAAAAI6K+lInE/1MjmwE0bDQX3ABAAAAAA==@pondhop.com>

No a bolser chisel is just a normal chisel but usually wider and used on
bricks etc, the tip flares out from the handle sometimes to around 2"

Thanks
Duncan

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 7:12 PM
To: Spridget Chat Group
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolster chisel

One of the restoration manuals mentions a bolster chisel, which in the book
appears to be shaped like a wood chisel - thin and flat on one side.  I once
had a small one of these with a handle bent upward for cutting flush, now
long lost.  I have not been able to find a metal-cutting chisel that is
either flat on one side or very thin.  Is there another name for this kind
of tool?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY
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From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 20 20:56:17 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:56:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohomish, Washington 7/18
In-Reply-To: <13196.28170.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <13196.28170.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <107211.15490.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Anyone have any objections to working on a Triumph?  How will that mess up our acronym?  I have a friend that needs some electrical expertise...

Northwest
Owners of
Spridget 
Handymen
Including 
Triumphs

Northwest
Owners of
Triumph and
Spridget
Handymen
In
Transit

Not working for me.... but I'm sure we can help him anyway...

Edward




________________________________
From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: jm.colvin at verizon.net; mshurtz at yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:27:45 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohish, Washington 7/18

So far we have the following cast of characters showing up...  We'll have lots of mechanical support here.  I hope to see more cars to work on so no one is left out of the fun.  Please let me know what you would like to get done on your vehicle and I'll make sure to note it.  We might need some specialty tools for some of the work and it's nice to know before hand.  Schuck's is just down the road, Napa is not too far away also.  Plenty of room in the driveway.  I hope I got everyone that has responded.  If I missed you, apologies!   Just shoot me an email confirming and I'll update this list.   Feel free to call me also.  Looking forward to meeting new people and seeing the others again.  

Bill M - lending a hand
Bill L and Son - lending a hand
Paul A - lending a hand (and eating BBQ Pork sandwiches)
Alan Inglis - Coming from Vancouver, BC - Bringing a Midget to work on 
Mike Burkhart - lending a hand
Phil Jones - Bringing his Sprite to work on and lending a hand
John Colvin - might stop by to observe (and eat BBQ)
Mike Shurtz - Tentative - might bring his '60 Sprite
Rich Ball - you comin' over and bringing your car??
Me - Install engine/Transmission, tuning, and alignment

Thanks, 

Edward Perez
14706 65th Dr SE
Snohomish, WA 98296
425.591.8251
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 20 22:13:02 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 21:13:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolster chisel
Message-ID: <446178.18309.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What exactly is the manual telling you to use a chisel on?  Only thing I can
think of is possibly the little plate that you bend up to help keep the
flywheel bolts from backing off.
 
If that's the case, most any chisel should work, right?  By the way, I
recently needed a good one and found a decent selection at my local Ace
Hardware.
 
 - David Booker
fellow Long Islander

--- On Sat, 6/20/09, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:


From: Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolster chisel
To: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, June 20, 2009, 7:12 PM


One of the restoration manuals mentions a bolster chisel, which in the book
appears to be shaped like a wood chisel - thin and flat on one side.  I once
had a small one of these with a handle bent upward for cutting flush, now long
lost.  I have not been able to find a metal-cutting chisel that is either flat
on one side or very thin.  Is there another name for this kind of tool?

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY
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From grday at btinternet.com  Sun Jun 21 04:35:17 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:35:17 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolster chisel
References: <DADB5E53A9A7420F8BCC0E699D093259@Home>
Message-ID: <36EBE1D3D7D141649DE53A9A584DA21A@dell330>

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/59860/Hand-Tools/Bolsters-Wrecking-Bars/Bolsters-Cold-Chisels/Roughneck-Brick-Bolster-with-Safety-Guard-4-x-7

or

http://tiny.cc/1skH7

Flat blade and sharpened to a central point along the cutting edge.  Keep it 
sharp or the metal edges you cut will bend and the metal stretches.  Try to 
avoid using it and use a small hand grinder with a thin cutting blade 
instead.  (It is useful for using as a lever between rusted/bonded together 
metal sheets because it's thin and wide.)  You can get them in various 
widths from 1/2inch up to around 6ins.  I find a 2 1/2 or 3 inch one is fine 
for general use.
Your local hardware store / builders merchant will stock them by the dozen. 
If you get a Chinese one with a soft cutting edge,  temper it yourself by 
heating to cherry red and quenching or, do a Frank and throw it fast and 
far!

Guy R Day



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Rowe" <mdrowe at optonline.net>
To: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 1:12 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Bolster chisel


> One of the restoration manuals mentions a bolster chisel, which in the 
> book appears to be shaped like a wood chisel - thin and flat on one side. 
> I once had a small one of these with a handle bent upward for cutting 
> flush, now long lost.  I have not been able to find a metal-cutting chisel 
> that is either flat on one side or very thin.  Is there another name for 
> this kind of tool?
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
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From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 06:47:27 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:47:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] The first Healey 100
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP9C968BE489E323F1C9A1DB83B0@phx.gbl>
References: <BLU0-SMTP9C968BE489E323F1C9A1DB83B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <205cef430906210547k244196f3tef555370e46df63d@mail.gmail.com>

I'd like to see a before picture.
Lin

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Robert Duquette <
robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Fwd: Interesting Healey at Conclave in Kingston
>
>
> > I thought that the folks in the Healey Club might be interested in
> > this article from the Globle and Mail about Healey No.1
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/kw4mrp
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 07:53:31 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:53:31 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] The first Healey 100
In-Reply-To: <205cef430906210547k244196f3tef555370e46df63d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP9C968BE489E323F1C9A1DB83B0@phx.gbl>
	<205cef430906210547k244196f3tef555370e46df63d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906210653u20f0ab4m593fb75f53f99515@mail.gmail.com>

> I'd like to see a before picture.

Lin,
The article indicates that the restoration is documented at
http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/24.html
and there are lots of pictures there for you.
David L

From grunthaner at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 08:23:47 2009
From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:23:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] The first Healey 100
In-Reply-To: <402188520906210653u20f0ab4m593fb75f53f99515@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BLU0-SMTP9C968BE489E323F1C9A1DB83B0@phx.gbl>
	<205cef430906210547k244196f3tef555370e46df63d@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520906210653u20f0ab4m593fb75f53f99515@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <205cef430906210723y4fbc61c3j1a5c91c8cb6022d0@mail.gmail.com>

Wow how did I miss that link. Very cool now this is the first time I saw a
Big Healey stripped down and my questions are:
Is that a unibody but with frame structures welded in opposed to US bolt on
bodies to frame?
I feel foolish I always thought the big Healeys were 6 cylinder.
Lin

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 9:53 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I'd like to see a before picture.
>
> Lin,
> The article indicates that the restoration is documented at
> http://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/24.html
> and there are lots of pictures there for you.
> David L
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From billmasq at hotmail.com  Sun Jun 21 09:35:03 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:35:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohomish, Washington 7/18
In-Reply-To: <107211.15490.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <13196.28170.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<107211.15490.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W14A04A58ED92A4B859FE7DCA380@phx.gbl>

It may take a little intestinal fortitude but I think that we can deal with it
:)
BillM

> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:56:17 -0700
> From: eap2140 at yahoo.com
> To: eap2140 at yahoo.com; Spridgets at autox.team.net
> CC: jm.colvin at verizon.net; mshurtz at yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohomish, Washington 7/18
>
> Anyone have any objections to working on a Triumph?  How will that mess up
our acronym?  I have a friend that needs some electrical expertise...
>
> Northwest
> Owners of
> Spridget
> Handymen
> Including
> Triumphs
>
> Northwest
> Owners of
> Triumph and
> Spridget
> Handymen
> In
> Transit
>
> Not working for me.... but I'm sure we can help him anyway...
>
> Edward
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Cc: jm.colvin at verizon.net; mshurtz at yahoo.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:27:45 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohish, Washington 7/18
>
> So far we have the following cast of characters showing up...  We'll have
lots of mechanical support here.  I hope to see more cars to work on so no one
is left out of the fun.  Please let me know what you would like to get done on
your vehicle and I'll make sure to note it.  We might need some specialty
tools for some of the work and it's nice to know before hand.  Schuck's is
just down the road, Napa is not too far away also.  Plenty of room in the
driveway.  I hope I got everyone that has responded.  If I missed you,
apologies!   Just shoot me an email confirming and I'll update this list.
Feel free to call me also.  Looking forward to meeting new people and seeing
the others again.
>
> Bill M - lending a hand
> Bill L and Son - lending a hand
> Paul A - lending a hand (and eating BBQ Pork sandwiches)
> Alan Inglis - Coming from Vancouver, BC - Bringing a Midget to work on
> Mike Burkhart - lending a hand
> Phil Jones - Bringing his Sprite to work on and lending a hand
> John Colvin - might stop by to observe (and eat BBQ)
> Mike Shurtz - Tentative - might bring his '60 Sprite
> Rich Ball - you comin' over and bringing your car??
> Me - Install engine/Transmission, tuning, and alignment
>
> Thanks,
>
> Edward Perez
> 14706 65th Dr SE
> Snohomish, WA 98296
> 425.591.8251
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 14:30:56 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:30:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohomish, Washington 7/18
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906211330y21be2200j8c5edc0daba9087a@mail.gmail.com>

Consider it 'outreach'...

I'm sure being around so many great Spridget owners will have an effect on
the lonely Triumph guy!

8-)

(BTW I'll be fishing in AK on the 18th - you guys have fun!)

Rick Bastedo



> From: Bill Masquelier <billmasq at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohomish, Washington 7/18
> To: Ed Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>, spridget list


> It may take a little intestinal fortitude but I think that we can deal
with it
> :)
> BillM

> Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:56:17 -0700
> From: eap2140 at yahoo.com
> To: eap2140 at yahoo.com; Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohomish, Washington 7/18
>
> Anyone have any objections to working on a Triumph?  How will that mess up
our acronym?  I have a friend that needs some electrical expertise...
>
> Northwest
> Owners of
> Spridget
> Handymen
> Including
> Triumphs
>
> Northwest
> Owners of
> Triumph and
> Spridget
> Handymen
> In
> Transit
>
> Not working for me.... but I'm sure we can help him anyway...
>
> Edward

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun Jun 21 16:23:09 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:23:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] wrenches
Message-ID: <1581C6A00827429C929E268C44356983@AndrewHP>

Hey list,

 

I wish I could say that I've been lurking, but I have 1784 unread emails in
"inbox spridgets". Sorry to be useless.  I have a quick top of the head
question for you 1500cc Midgeteers out there.  I about to order a few
missing gearwrenches in Metric, and thought I ought to check on SAE too.  On
most cars There are about 4 sizes of heads that most fasteners use. Could
someone please email/post the MOST COMMON sizes, as Northern tool is having
a sale on open stock, and will order some if I need.  I have a 7 piece set,
but it stops at 3/4.  I have many tools, but if I am going to be using a 7/8
half the time, I'd rather use a gearwrench than a HF non ratcheting.

 

Thanks folks, 

Drew

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 16:42:13 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:42:13 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] wrenches
In-Reply-To: <1581C6A00827429C929E268C44356983@AndrewHP>
References: <1581C6A00827429C929E268C44356983@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0906211542k48fd249ax4cd78350d0a9829a@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Andrew Payne <andrewpayne at intrex.net>wrote:
I have a quick top of the head question for you 1500cc Midgeteers out
there. On
most cars There are about 4 sizes of heads that most fasteners use.

The most common bolts on a spridget are 7/16, 1/2, 9/16 and 5/8. There are
others but depending on what you are doing you probably won't encounter them
very often. If you have SAE gearwrenches up to 7/8 already you probably
don't need any more. Now if you just WANT some, buy whatever you don't have!
Spend some money on a set of Posidrive screwdrivers (or ratchet bits) if you
don't have any...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From nases at verizon.net  Sun Jun 21 16:42:38 2009
From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 18:42:38 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Truth in 24 movie (LeMans documentary)- No LBC
Message-ID: <3A24E406-2AE2-41C4-A5FA-41EA0BEAAD8F@verizon.net>

There is a free movie download at itunes called "Truth in 24" about  
Audi's 2008 LeMans effort.  Lots of track conversations with drivers  
and good footage.

Great movie even if you don't like Audi.

Phil Nase
Quakertown, PA
http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Sun Jun 21 17:11:20 2009
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:11:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] wrenches
In-Reply-To: <1581C6A00827429C929E268C44356983@AndrewHP>
References: <1581C6A00827429C929E268C44356983@AndrewHP>
Message-ID: <200906212311.n5LNBQ4v001020@mail.usimperio.com>

Get the SAE set ( 5/16 thru 3/4 ) and you will be good to go.

Dave

At 06:23 PM 6/21/2009, you wrote:
>Hey list,
>
>
>
>I wish I could say that I've been lurking, but I have 1784 unread emails in
>"inbox spridgets". Sorry to be useless.  I have a quick top of the head
>question for you 1500cc Midgeteers out there.  I about to order a few
>missing gearwrenches in Metric, and thought I ought to check on SAE too.  On
>most cars There are about 4 sizes of heads that most fasteners use. Could
>someone please email/post the MOST COMMON sizes, as Northern tool is having
>a sale on open stock, and will order some if I need.  I have a 7 piece set,
>but it stops at 3/4.  I have many tools, but if I am going to be using a 7/8
>half the time, I'd rather use a gearwrench than a HF non ratcheting.
>
>
>
>Thanks folks,
>
>Drew

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Sun Jun 21 17:36:22 2009
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:36:22 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] My new toy
Message-ID: <200906212336.n5LNaSxr001143@mail.usimperio.com>

I'll be picking up my new toy sometime tomorrow.
1964 Morris Van
1275 A+
1 3/4" carb
Header
Ribcase trans
Has new rear inner fenders still in the box.
New floor pans still in the box.
12,580 miles on the speedo.

This will be my daily driver.

Took some pics in a dark area.
http://69.69.34.130/morris

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun 21 17:49:58 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:49:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] My new toy
In-Reply-To: <200906212336.n5LNaSxr001143@mail.usimperio.com>
References: <200906212336.n5LNaSxr001143@mail.usimperio.com>
Message-ID: <3645274761C8401497F5743E0CFD5687@spider>

Congrats. You're the second or third person on this site to be so afflicted.
...bill in oregon
===========================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Yealy
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:36 PM
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] My new toy

I'll be picking up my new toy sometime tomorrow.
1964 Morris Van
1275 A+
1 3/4" carb
Header
Ribcase trans
Has new rear inner fenders still in the box.
New floor pans still in the box.
12,580 miles on the speedo.

This will be my daily driver.

Took some pics in a dark area.
http://69.69.34.130/morris

_______________________________________________

From pythias at pacifier.com  Sun Jun 21 18:09:15 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:09:15 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen side seals
Message-ID: <745750184.20090621170915@pacifier.com>

Hello Spridgets,

        No one commented before, so I'll try again...

        I have a windscreen in a frame that I'm going to replace the
        one on the car with. I have new side and bottom seals thereto.

        I've installed the bottom seal, but looking at the side seals
        I see that there are screws holding the seals in? .. how on
        earth did someone get screws in there? Do I go ahead and tear
        out the old rubber and simply slide in the new seals without
        the screws?
        Has anyone replaced their side seals and come across this? 

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                          mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403  "the red thing"
 
       things, like wild dogs 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 21 18:40:23 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:40:23 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] My new toy
In-Reply-To: <3645274761C8401497F5743E0CFD5687@spider>
References: <200906212336.n5LNaSxr001143@mail.usimperio.com>
	<3645274761C8401497F5743E0CFD5687@spider>
Message-ID: <4A3ED2F7.6080604@comcast.net>

corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote:
> Congrats. You're the second or third person on this site to be so afflicted.
>
>   
Yes, my son just bought a Traveler.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 21 18:41:47 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:41:47 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen side seals
In-Reply-To: <745750184.20090621170915@pacifier.com>
References: <745750184.20090621170915@pacifier.com>
Message-ID: <4A3ED34B.6050700@comcast.net>

Bill L wrote:
> Hello Spridgets,
>
>         No one commented before, so I'll try again...
>
>         I have a windscreen in a frame that I'm going to replace the
>         one on the car with. I have new side and bottom seals thereto.
>
>         I've installed the bottom seal, but looking at the side seals
>         I see that there are screws holding the seals in? .. how on
>         earth did someone get screws in there? Do I go ahead and tear
>         out the old rubber and simply slide in the new seals without
>         the screws?
>         Has anyone replaced their side seals and come across this? 
>
>   
Maybe some one added the screws, I don't recall screws but it's been 
awhile since I did the side rubbers.
I thought they just slide out.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From davriker at nwi.net  Sun Jun 21 20:25:18 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 19:25:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Windscreen side seals
References: <745750184.20090621170915@pacifier.com>
	<4A3ED34B.6050700@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <55597BA537C846BFB43C96884EDD2106@MAIN>

I think the factory actually put a rivet in there to keep them in place. 
Someone replaced them once and must have figured out how to put a screw in 
there.
David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: "Bill L" <pythias at pacifier.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Windscreen side seals


> Bill L wrote:
>> Hello Spridgets,
>>
>>         No one commented before, so I'll try again...
>>
>>         I have a windscreen in a frame that I'm going to replace the
>>         one on the car with. I have new side and bottom seals thereto.
>>
>>         I've installed the bottom seal, but looking at the side seals
>>         I see that there are screws holding the seals in? .. how on
>>         earth did someone get screws in there? Do I go ahead and tear
>>         out the old rubber and simply slide in the new seals without
>>         the screws?
>>         Has anyone replaced their side seals and come across this?
>>
>>
> Maybe some one added the screws, I don't recall screws but it's been
> awhile since I did the side rubbers.
> I thought they just slide out.
>
> -- 
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun Jun 21 20:50:10 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:50:10 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] wrenches
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0906211542k48fd249ax4cd78350d0a9829a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1581C6A00827429C929E268C44356983@AndrewHP>
	<b777e2be0906211542k48fd249ax4cd78350d0a9829a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EF836895949F4A5B8ED9CC6D4A911EF4@AndrewHP>

Hey Kent! Good to hear from you, looks like I can save my money for Metric
and apparently screwdrivers.  Are posidrive anything like positraction?
Thanks,
Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 6:42 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wrenches

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Andrew Payne <andrewpayne at intrex.net>wrote:
I have a quick top of the head question for you 1500cc Midgeteers out
there. On
most cars There are about 4 sizes of heads that most fasteners use.

The most common bolts on a spridget are 7/16, 1/2, 9/16 and 5/8. There are
others but depending on what you are doing you probably won't encounter them
very often. If you have SAE gearwrenches up to 7/8 already you probably
don't need any more. Now if you just WANT some, buy whatever you don't have!
Spend some money on a set of Posidrive screwdrivers (or ratchet bits) if you
don't have any...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
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From andrewpayne at intrex.net  Sun Jun 21 20:52:15 2009
From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 22:52:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] wrenches
In-Reply-To: <200906212311.n5LNBQ4v001020@mail.usimperio.com>
References: <1581C6A00827429C929E268C44356983@AndrewHP>
	<200906212311.n5LNBQ4v001020@mail.usimperio.com>
Message-ID: <36902D210762415788A9482905F19262@AndrewHP>

Dave, thanks for the reply. I think this is the first time since buying the
car that I have not need something else! Thanks for the good news.
Drew

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Yealy
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 7:11 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] wrenches

Get the SAE set ( 5/16 thru 3/4 ) and you will be good to go.

Dave

At 06:23 PM 6/21/2009, you wrote:
>Hey list,
>
>
>
>I wish I could say that I've been lurking, but I have 1784 unread emails in
>"inbox spridgets". Sorry to be useless.  I have a quick top of the head
>question for you 1500cc Midgeteers out there.  I about to order a few
>missing gearwrenches in Metric, and thought I ought to check on SAE too.
On
>most cars There are about 4 sizes of heads that most fasteners use. Could
>someone please email/post the MOST COMMON sizes, as Northern tool is having
>a sale on open stock, and will order some if I need.  I have a 7 piece set,
>but it stops at 3/4.  I have many tools, but if I am going to be using a
7/8
>half the time, I'd rather use a gearwrench than a HF non ratcheting.
>
>
>
>Thanks folks,
>
>Drew
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From soavero at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 21 21:05:07 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (soavero at yahoo.com)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 20:05:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
Message-ID: <866187.11615.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Just got done with a great weekend of racing at Blackhawk Farms, especially brightened by a ton of guests today on Day 3. As I pulled into the neighborhood tonight, Danica Patrick's motorhome was literally right behind me. She may have a bigger budget, but I bet we had more fun. I want to thank everyone, especially Larry Daniels, David Lieb, Jim Proefrock (all the way from the fringes of Minneapolis), Dave & Terry Woerpel, and, the winner for longest trip to the track, Billy Zoom from OC, via Boston, NYC, Philly, D.C., etc. Special thanks to my brother Dr. Bob for making the trip out from NY, and as always the great Peter C. for keeping it all in one piece (especially the driver). 

Ron

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Sun Jun 21 21:18:48 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 23:18:48 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Undercoating
References: <1C0D1436AF754B21903DF43EECFCEC4E@Home>
	<BLU103-W22772730DFEAF787710C34C23A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <D36D227D46DB4B47BB8D96D9590E0B6A@blackbox2>

Undercoating is one of those double edged swords.

One one hand it was kind of a good thing that some previous owner undercoated
the vehicle back in during the earlier life of the vehicle.   It may be one of the reasons that you have
something decent to restore today because it prevented a lot of corrosion.

On the other hand it's a bear to remove.

It's kind of like fine art restoration in the respect that long ago there were preservation
methods employed that would be frowned upon given the state of the art today.

One should also be aware that Bugeyes did have original  undercoating is certain areas.
Are you sure you want to remove it all?


I've had good results removing old undercoat with one of these:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=65700

The vibrating scraper shaves off the undercoat really well.   
You will have to pause time to time to clean the blade.  
I would also sharpen the blade every so often.

BTW, This tool has been very handy for a bunch of other restoration tasks.

As a sander, I have used it to remove blemishes from the cockpit surround aluminum
before I buffed them out.

I also used it to sand in the tight spots under the bonnet before painting.

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Sun Jun 21 21:56:50 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:56:50 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV7A79B2C2A27E2DEF2A5D9C8390@phx.gbl>

Well said, JF.

Said the same thing to y'all in different words 4-5 years ago when I turned 60+.....and was called less than "a man".

But I wisely behaved and held my tongue, knowing full well there would come a day.....as it does for all of us. 

Still a great fun ride for the shorter trips though, for sure. :)

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Fishbein
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:14 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009

Whether one does it or not, has done it or not, Spridgets were not designed as
a highway car. While a handful might consider them fun on the interstate for
days on end, it equates to punishment for most others.

Considering a 2,000 mile trip in a Spridget unappealing  has nothing to do
with one's enthusiasm for the car.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT


--- On Thu, 6/18/09, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:

From: mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:01 PM



 Come on, take the top off and drive the thing, you and your wife will
love it.
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 06:09:23 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV7A79B2C2A27E2DEF2A5D9C8390@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV7A79B2C2A27E2DEF2A5D9C8390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520906220509o4dd03f69x83dba896f80662e9@mail.gmail.com>

> Said the same thing to y'all in different words 4-5 years ago when I turned 60+.....and was called less than "a man".

Procrastination and making plausible excuses have never really been
considered marketable job skills.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun 22 07:25:09 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:25:09 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <402188520906220509o4dd03f69x83dba896f80662e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY118-DAV7A79B2C2A27E2DEF2A5D9C8390@phx.gbl>
	<402188520906220509o4dd03f69x83dba896f80662e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W351BB8D9A7515AB7A64ABDB8390@phx.gbl>

You don't follow politics?



> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:09:23 -0500
> From: 72spridget at gmail.com
>
> > Said the same thing to y'all in different words 4-5 years ago when I
turned 60+.....and was called less than "a man".
>
> Procrastination and making plausible excuses have never really been
> considered marketable job skills.

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 22 10:06:52 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:06:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
In-Reply-To: <866187.11615.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <866187.11615.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200906220706744.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 08:05 PM 6/21/2009, soavero at yahoo.com wrote:
>Just got done with a great weekend of racing at Blackhawk Farms, 
>especially brightened by a ton of guests today on Day 3. As I pulled 
>into the neighborhood tonight, Danica Patrick's motorhome was 
>literally right behind me. She may have a bigger budget, but I bet 
>we had more fun. I want to thank everyone, especially Larry Daniels, 
>David Lieb, Jim Proefrock (all the way from the fringes of 
>Minneapolis), Dave & Terry Woerpel, and, the winner for longest trip 
>to the track, Billy Zoom from OC, via Boston, NYC, Philly, D.C., 
>etc. Special thanks to my brother Dr. Bob for making the trip out 
>from NY, and as always the great Peter C. for keeping it all in one 
>piece (especially the driver).
>
>Ron
==================
To all of the above, first phone call of the day was for an ignition 
module 99 Passat 1.8.  Honest!


And, humidity prevents Ron from saying how well he did in the races. 
He drove very well, and won..... something..... Small Bore Gran Prix? 
Started from the back of the pack and passed everyone but himself.


It WAS great to see everyone again, though a few were missing.


Peter C. 

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 08:25:41 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:25:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W351BB8D9A7515AB7A64ABDB8390@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV7A79B2C2A27E2DEF2A5D9C8390@phx.gbl>
	<402188520906220509o4dd03f69x83dba896f80662e9@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY112-W351BB8D9A7515AB7A64ABDB8390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520906220725t5b408d05p60be5b7a60ed04b7@mail.gmail.com>

>> > Said the same thing to y'all in different words 4-5 years ago when I turned 60+.....and was called less than "a man".

>> Procrastination and making plausible excuses have never really been
>> considered marketable job skills.

> You don't follow politics?

Touche'

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Mon Jun 22 08:27:36 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:27:36 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
In-Reply-To: <200906220706744.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <866187.11615.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200906220706744.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W45433F1BD1441BCD5BC4D3B8390@phx.gbl>

>> ... and passed everyone but himself.



So ... you're saying that there's still room for improvement?





> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:06:52 -0700
>
> At 08:05 PM 6/21/2009, soavero at yahoo.com wrote:
> >Just got done with a great weekend of racing at Blackhawk Farms,
> >especially brightened by a ton of guests today on Day 3. As I pulled
> >into the neighborhood tonight, Danica Patrick's motorhome was
> >literally right behind me. She may have a bigger budget, but I bet
> >we had more fun. I want to thank everyone, especially Larry Daniels,
> >David Lieb, Jim Proefrock (all the way from the fringes of
> >Minneapolis), Dave & Terry Woerpel, and, the winner for longest trip
> >to the track, Billy Zoom from OC, via Boston, NYC, Philly, D.C.,
> >etc. Special thanks to my brother Dr. Bob for making the trip out
> >from NY, and as always the great Peter C. for keeping it all in one
> >piece (especially the driver).
> >
> >Ron
> ==================
> To all of the above, first phone call of the day was for an ignition
> module 99 Passat 1.8. Honest!
>
>
> And, humidity prevents Ron from saying how well he did in the races.
> He drove very well, and won..... something..... Small Bore Gran Prix?
> Started from the back of the pack and passed everyone but himself.
>
>
> It WAS great to see everyone again, though a few were missing.
>
>
> Peter C.

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 08:29:28 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>

I got the little red MK2 Sprite out on the road last week, it's actually
been on the Interstate a few times!

Anyone got an idea about keeping the side curtains in the car at freeway
speeds?

This weekend I got headlights, turn signals, horn, blinker on the dash,
wipers, heater fan, and some other wiring sorted with the help of BillM.
Nice to have that stuff working!!

Pics are here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo/MKIISprite#

Rick (on the road again...) Bastedo

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 22 10:34:41 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:34:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W45433F1BD1441BCD5BC4D3B8390@phx.gbl>
References: <866187.11615.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<BAY112-W45433F1BD1441BCD5BC4D3B8390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <200906220734166.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 07:27 AM 6/22/2009, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
> >> ... and passed everyone but himself.
>
>
>
>So ... you're saying that there's still room for improvement?
==============
Naw... last time he passed himself, he came back to the paddock on a hook...... 

From wmseverin at charter.net  Mon Jun 22 08:41:37 2009
From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:41:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
In-Reply-To: <200906220706744.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <866187.11615.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200906220706744.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <008401c9f347$8c731670$a5594350$@net>

I resemble that remark.

But I did pull a Healey 100-6 out of a barn yesterday. That was a chore, as
the trans was locked in gear.   And mistakenly thought I was young enough to
ride my old Shovelhead all the way from Princeton to Green Bay and back,
without a windshield, in the rain. (Felt like a constant birdshot in the
face... alternating with tent stakes driven into my forehead...)

WST



> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
> Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:07 AM
> To: Spridgets
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
> 
> At 08:05 PM 6/21/2009, soavero at yahoo.com wrote:
> >Just got done with a great weekend of racing at Blackhawk Farms,
> >especially brightened by a ton of guests today on Day 3. As I pulled
> >into the neighborhood tonight, Danica Patrick's motorhome was
> >literally right behind me. She may have a bigger budget, but I bet
> >we had more fun. I want to thank everyone, especially Larry Daniels,
> >David Lieb, Jim Proefrock (all the way from the fringes of
> >Minneapolis), Dave & Terry Woerpel, and, the winner for longest trip
> >to the track, Billy Zoom from OC, via Boston, NYC, Philly, D.C.,
> >etc. Special thanks to my brother Dr. Bob for making the trip out
> >from NY, and as always the great Peter C. for keeping it all in one
> >piece (especially the driver).
> >
> >Ron
> ==================
> To all of the above, first phone call of the day was for an ignition
> module 99 Passat 1.8.  Honest!
> 
> 
> And, humidity prevents Ron from saying how well he did in the races.
> He drove very well, and won..... something..... Small Bore Gran Prix?
> Started from the back of the pack and passed everyone but himself.
> 
> 
> It WAS great to see everyone again, though a few were missing.
> 
> 
> Peter C.

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 08:54:03 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:54:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906220754t53bbdc7bkdddb6f3f9bb7f825@mail.gmail.com>

Ummmm....  Rick?    Someone left a hickey on your bonnet, mate!    ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I got the little red MK2 Sprite out on the road last week, it's actually
> been on the Interstate a few times!
>
> Anyone got an idea about keeping the side curtains in the car at freeway
> speeds?
>
> This weekend I got headlights, turn signals, horn, blinker on the dash,
> wipers, heater fan, and some other wiring sorted with the help of BillM.
> Nice to have that stuff working!!
>
> Pics are here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo/MKIISprite#
>
> Rick (on the road again...) Bastedo

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 09:02:43 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:02:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906220754t53bbdc7bkdddb6f3f9bb7f825@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0906220754t53bbdc7bkdddb6f3f9bb7f825@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906220802k14139561k71187bfbe473432d@mail.gmail.com>

I know, I know...

I have three others that I need to choose from and get one of them painted
to match the car.
I really needed to get this car on the road while my Midget is having open
heart surgery...
Ok - open transmission surgery - anyway I had to have some wheels on the
ground and the little red one was it and so I had to go with the bonnet as -
is. Hopefully within a month I'll get one of the others painted and
installed and ship this one off to it's new home. You could fit a big motor
under that thing, and that cowl does bring in fresh air by the bucket load.

Rick (is that a bump on your bonnet?) Bastedo


On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ummmm....  Rick?    Someone left a hickey on your bonnet, mate!    ;-)
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I got the little red MK2 Sprite out on the road last week, it's actually
>> been on the Interstate a few times!
>>
>> Anyone got an idea about keeping the side curtains in the car at freeway
>> speeds?
>>
>> This weekend I got headlights, turn signals, horn, blinker on the dash,
>> wipers, heater fan, and some other wiring sorted with the help of BillM.
>> Nice to have that stuff working!!
>>
>> Pics are here:
>>
>> http://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo/MKIISprite#
>>
>> Rick (on the road again...) Bastedo

From soavero at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 22 09:04:40 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 08:04:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
Message-ID: <344994.76249.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/22/09, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:
> And, humidity prevents Ron from saying 

And STU-pidity prevented me from mentioning Terry "Tutone" Heffron and his band for Saturday as well. There was serious buzz at the registration counter on Sunday morning - apparently the band (The Porchflies) triggered some long-lost dancing skills in some of the club members. Great time - 

Ron

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 09:12:23 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:12:23 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
In-Reply-To: <344994.76249.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <344994.76249.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906220812k67aebe94hc13394e813c90724@mail.gmail.com>

You're sure it was the band an not some effervescent libation?   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

> - apparently the band (The Porchflies) triggered some long-lost dancing
> skills in some of the club members. Great time -

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 09:14:58 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:14:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0906220802k14139561k71187bfbe473432d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<43840a7e0906220754t53bbdc7bkdddb6f3f9bb7f825@mail.gmail.com>
	<fbc9308f0906220802k14139561k71187bfbe473432d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906220814p3d4ee9c8jc2332d0e03f02aed@mail.gmail.com>

Check with Bill Young in Kansas City....   I think he has a Camaro small
block in he lil' red car....   It was at Lake of the Ozarks last year...

Cheers!!
Jim

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:

> I know, I know...
>
> I have three others that I need to choose from and get one of them painted
> to match the car.
> I really needed to get this car on the road while my Midget is having open
> heart surgery...
> Ok - open transmission surgery - anyway I had to have some wheels on the
> ground and the little red one was it and so I had to go with the bonnet as
-
> is. Hopefully within a month I'll get one of the others painted and
> installed and ship this one off to it's new home. You could fit a big motor
> under that thing, and that cowl does bring in fresh air by the bucket load.
>
> Rick (is that a bump on your bonnet?) Bastedo
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ummmm....  Rick?    Someone left a hickey on your bonnet, mate!    ;-)
>>
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I got the little red MK2 Sprite out on the road last week, it's actually
>>> been on the Interstate a few times!
>>>
>>> Anyone got an idea about keeping the side curtains in the car at freeway
>>> speeds?
>>>
>>> This weekend I got headlights, turn signals, horn, blinker on the dash,
>>> wipers, heater fan, and some other wiring sorted with the help of BillM.
>>> Nice to have that stuff working!!
>>>
>>> Pics are here:
>>>
>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo/MKIISprite#
>>>
>>> Rick (on the road again...) Bastedo
>>>
>>
>>
>


--
Cheers!!
Jim
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am
not
sure about the former. - Albert Einstein

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Jun 22 09:28:21 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:28:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT:  Chasing down an electrical gremlin
In-Reply-To: <344994.76249.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <344994.76249.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <26ADAB2F2D5A4B75ABE79DD999DF7083@BASEMENTDELL>

Hi all-

My grocery getter (2000 BMW 528iT) has decided to randomly go into "stolen"
mode and set off the factory alarm while in the garage, and more
disturbingly now, as I drive.

We've had 5 inches of rain over the weekend, but it was not driven in it, so
I'm thinking moisture somewhere.  Any recommendations on an electronic
drying spray I can use on the contacts or?   I have a fan on the central
computer/module area to dry it as well, although it wasn't noticeably wet.

TIA

Chris

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 22 11:29:28 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Highway Yellow paint?
Message-ID: <200906220829682.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

YL.9 is apparently the code for Highway Yellow on 61-62 Sprites.

Anyone have a pic of that color?

Does it blend well with a center stripe?

Peter C

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jun 22 09:59:21 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:59:21 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Highway Yellow paint?
In-Reply-To: <200906220829682.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <OLECLAFDGBNPEJPOHHIJGEJIDJAA.shop@justbrits.com>

<<Anyone have a pic of that color?>>

Not sure if correct PPP but on my site:
-->Spec. Cars & Spec. People-->Sprites-->
Sprites-->"Da Fleet" (i Think>G?) is Glen
Byrns' collection.
 
<<Does it blend well with a center stripe?>>

Seen a couple w/BRG, one w/navy & 1/white
(UGH!).  So YEP !!

Going Ron Chasing ???  <VBG>

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 22 10:46:24 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:46:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT:  Chasing down an electrical gremlin
In-Reply-To: <26ADAB2F2D5A4B75ABE79DD999DF7083@BASEMENTDELL>
References: <344994.76249.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<26ADAB2F2D5A4B75ABE79DD999DF7083@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <2D55B462-02A8-47A9-87BB-797BA3602F0C@comcast.net>

umm.. SAABs of this vintage would have a similar problem with the  
alarm battery going South.  you have to disassemble the black box to  
get to it tho'

Lester


On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Chris Manuel wrote:

> Hi all-
>
> My grocery getter (2000 BMW 528iT) has decided to randomly go into  
> "stolen"
> mode and set off the factory alarm while in the garage, and more
> disturbingly now, as I drive.
>
> We've had 5 inches of rain over the weekend, but it was not driven  
> in it, so
> I'm thinking moisture somewhere.  Any recommendations on an electronic
> drying spray I can use on the contacts or?   I have a fan on the  
> central
> computer/module area to dry it as well, although it wasn't  
> noticeably wet.
>
> TIA
>
> Chris
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From bkitterer at me.com  Mon Jun 22 11:35:41 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:35:41 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <370BA46D-1D28-4D53-B1B8-78DAEFBDFE21@me.com>

Rick,

The best way I know to secure the side curtains is to carry a really  
big screw driver to tighten down the mounting screws - - have done it  
using a quarter but we do not want to talk about walking up hill both  
ways in the snow bare foot to school.

Also the last time I redid the side curtains I found or made 1/16 inch  
thick rubber washers to go under the mounting screw heads.  This seems  
to help secure the screws and protect the mounting bracket from  
scratches - -if one cares.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 22, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote:

> I got the little red MK2 Sprite out on the road last week, it's  
> actually
> been on the Interstate a few times!
>
> Anyone got an idea about keeping the side curtains in the car at  
> freeway
> speeds?
>
> This weekend I got headlights, turn signals, horn, blinker on the  
> dash,
> wipers, heater fan, and some other wiring sorted with the help of  
> BillM.
> Nice to have that stuff working!!
>
> Pics are here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo/MKIISprite#
>
> Rick (on the road again...) Bastedo
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From bkitterer at me.com  Mon Jun 22 11:41:44 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:41:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Highway Yellow paint?
In-Reply-To: <200906220829682.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <200906220829682.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <01513BCA-9574-49AC-8C22-5B6418C310E5@me.com>

Peter,

The chip "sample" in D Pikovnik's book looks more like pale pea green  
than yellow or the odd color that they are painting some fire trucks.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 22, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote:

> YL.9 is apparently the code for Highway Yellow on 61-62 Sprites.
>
> Anyone have a pic of that color?
>
> Does it blend well with a center stripe?
>
> Peter C
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 22 11:55:15 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:55:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
Message-ID: <233472.26256.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ron,
Congrats on a fine weekend. To be at the track road racing a competitive
Sprite, with friends and family all having a great time, famous musicians
stopping by, and then winning, what could top that!  This is the recurring
dream I've been having since I stopped racing in 2004. This is what I'm
working towards, hoping for this fun once again.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Sun, 6/21/09, soavero at yahoo.com <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: soavero at yahoo.com <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, June 21, 2009, 11:05 PM

Just got done with a great weekend of racing at Blackhawk Farms, especially
brightened by a ton of guests today on Day 3. As I pulled into the
neighborhood tonight, Danica Patrick's motorhome was literally right behind
me. She may have a bigger budget, but I bet we had more fun. I want to thank
everyone, especially Larry Daniels, David Lieb, Jim Proefrock (all the way
from the fringes of Minneapolis), Dave & Terry Woerpel, and, the winner for
longest trip to the track, Billy Zoom from OC, via Boston, NYC, Philly, D.C.,
etc. Special thanks to my brother Dr. Bob for making the trip out from NY, and
as always the great Peter C. for keeping it all in one piece (especially the
driver).

Ron
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From bighealey at charter.net  Mon Jun 22 12:12:08 2009
From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:12:08 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OT:  Chasing down an electrical gremlin
In-Reply-To: <26ADAB2F2D5A4B75ABE79DD999DF7083@BASEMENTDELL>
Message-ID: <20090622141208.10IS9.661786.root@mp13>

Check your local parts houses.  Some (Autozone here in CA) have a diagnostic computer you can hook up for free (with deposit).  get the failure codes and then the parts house can intrepret the error codes.  In my case on a 2000 Ford ranger we hooked it up and the error code indicated a rear axle sensor was bad.  I bought the 25 dollar part installed it and it has been working ever since.  A good bmw shop will have a gt-1 computer that will get right to the heart of the problem.


---- Chris Manuel <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote: 
> Hi all-
> 
> My grocery getter (2000 BMW 528iT) has decided to randomly go into "stolen"
> mode and set off the factory alarm while in the garage, and more
> disturbingly now, as I drive.
> 
> We've had 5 inches of rain over the weekend, but it was not driven in it, so
> I'm thinking moisture somewhere.  Any recommendations on an electronic
> drying spray I can use on the contacts or?   I have a fan on the central
> computer/module area to dry it as well, although it wasn't noticeably wet.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Chris
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> 
> You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net
> 
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> 
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From rbastedo at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 12:16:57 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:16:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906221116l24bd4c1bpd66ff6d6163421e7@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Bob, so I take it they are not 'supposed' to just loosely slide in &
out.

8-)

Getting the right mounting screws on there and not just bolts would probably
be a step in the right direction.
My parts car has the right ones, but they were frozen in place and I didn't
want to break them off so I sprayed them with PB Blaster a couple months ago
so I just need to see if they are ready to come out yet.
Rubber washers is a good tip - thanks!

RickB

________________________________________________
> From: Kitterer Bob <bkitterer at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
> To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>

> Rick,

> The best way I know to secure the side curtains is to carry a really
> big screw driver to tighten down the mounting screws - - have done it
> using a quarter but we do not want to talk about walking up hill both
> ways in the snow bare foot to school.

> Also the last time I redid the side curtains I found or made 1/16 inch
> thick rubber washers to go under the mounting screw heads.  This seems
> to help secure the screws and protect the mounting bracket from
> scratches - -if one cares.

> Bob Kitterer

> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
> 2000 Miata Special Edition
___________________________________________________
> On Jun 22, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Rick Bastedo wrote:

> I got the little red MK2 Sprite out on the road last week, it's
> actually
> been on the Interstate a few times!
>
> Anyone got an idea about keeping the side curtains in the car at
> freeway
> speeds?
>
> This weekend I got headlights, turn signals, horn, blinker on the
> dash,
> wipers, heater fan, and some other wiring sorted with the help of
> BillM.
> Nice to have that stuff working!!
>
> Pics are here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/rbastedo/MKIISprite#
>
> Rick (on the road again...) Bastedo

From sma at intech.com  Mon Jun 22 12:41:56 2009
From: sma at intech.com (Stephen Aldous)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:41:56 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets]  77  Midget
Message-ID: <1D7B98813F74CE4E99A8D6B3E1DC26BA21D52C@Server1.intech.com>

Quick question, Does anyone know the fuel line diameter for this car?  I
sprung a leak just above the rear axle. Should I splice it or replace the
whole line?

Steve

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Jun 22 12:56:12 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:56:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] OT:  Chasing down an electrical gremlin
In-Reply-To: <20090622141208.10IS9.661786.root@mp13>
References: <26ADAB2F2D5A4B75ABE79DD999DF7083@BASEMENTDELL>
	<20090622141208.10IS9.661786.root@mp13>
Message-ID: <F326C1D284AC4B6C9F1DF28700A9BA2E@BASEMENTDELL>

No codes thrown yet, but I think I've narrowed it down to wither the
ignition switch or the key.

If you EVER get to use a GT1 hookup sometime, it's a lot of fun.  There are
sequences and other sequences of odd things you'd never think about that can
be customized to your own specs.

Now on the dark side, this damn thing has the memory keys, so that when you
place like say my wife's key, it automatically moves the seat, mirror, and
climate control to her last settings.   Too much!

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: bighealey at charter.net [mailto:bighealey at charter.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:12 PM
To: Chris Manuel; 'Spridgets'
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT: Chasing down an electrical gremlin

Check your local parts houses.  Some (Autozone here in CA) have a diagnostic
computer you can hook up for free (with deposit).  get the failure codes and
then the parts house can intrepret the error codes.  In my case on a 2000
Ford ranger we hooked it up and the error code indicated a rear axle sensor
was bad.  I bought the 25 dollar part installed it and it has been working
ever since.  A good bmw shop will have a gt-1 computer that will get right
to the heart of the problem.


---- Chris Manuel <cmanuel at wi.rr.com> wrote: 
> Hi all-
> 
> My grocery getter (2000 BMW 528iT) has decided to randomly go into
"stolen"
> mode and set off the factory alarm while in the garage, and more
> disturbingly now, as I drive.
> 
> We've had 5 inches of rain over the weekend, but it was not driven in it,
so
> I'm thinking moisture somewhere.  Any recommendations on an electronic
> drying spray I can use on the contacts or?   I have a fan on the central
> computer/module area to dry it as well, although it wasn't noticeably wet.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Chris

From peter at nosimport.com  Mon Jun 22 13:01:55 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:01:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 77  Midget
In-Reply-To: <1D7B98813F74CE4E99A8D6B3E1DC26BA21D52C@Server1.intech.com>
References: <1D7B98813F74CE4E99A8D6B3E1DC26BA21D52C@Server1.intech.com>
Message-ID: <200906221201753.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Splicing is OK, as the car uses rubber hose elsewhere. The pipe is 
1/4 and you can use 1/4 brake pipe (as found on large Amurican vee-hi-cles)
         Peter C
=
At 11:41 AM 6/22/2009, Stephen Aldous wrote:
>Quick question, Does anyone know the fuel line diameter for this car?  I
>sprung a leak just above the rear axle. Should I splice it or replace the
>whole line?
>
>Steve

From cmanuel at wi.rr.com  Mon Jun 22 13:07:03 2009
From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:07:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 77  Midget
In-Reply-To: <1D7B98813F74CE4E99A8D6B3E1DC26BA21D52C@Server1.intech.com>
References: <1D7B98813F74CE4E99A8D6B3E1DC26BA21D52C@Server1.intech.com>
Message-ID: <77D1A3BA6EC742D99A3EFE7BEBD2A36D@BASEMENTDELL>

WAG is that it wasn't routed/mounted properly in the first place.

Where else would you want it to break?  Its only gas...

chris
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen Aldous
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 1:42 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] 77 Midget

Quick question, Does anyone know the fuel line diameter for this car?  I
sprung a leak just above the rear axle. Should I splice it or replace the
whole line?

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 17:33:43 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:33:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Truth in 24 movie (LeMans documentary)- No LBC
In-Reply-To: <3A24E406-2AE2-41C4-A5FA-41EA0BEAAD8F@verizon.net>
References: <3A24E406-2AE2-41C4-A5FA-41EA0BEAAD8F@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906221633u15c11040n595d1cbd873bf91b@mail.gmail.com>

Best of such movies I've seen.

Herb

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> There is a free movie download at itunes called "Truth in 24" about Audi's
> 2008 LeMans effort.  Lots of track conversations with drivers and good
> footage.
>
> Great movie even if you don't like Audi.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
> http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/<http://home.comcast.net/%7Ephilnasecpa/>
> _______________________________________________

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jun 22 17:59:02 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:59:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
References: <866187.11615.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200906220706744.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <627EB1FDE9E44D78A83EE2ADEB6729ED@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>

... And, humidity prevents Ron from saying how well he did in the races.
He drove very well, and won..... something..... Small Bore Gran Prix?
Started from the back of the pack and passed everyone but himself.


It WAS great to see everyone again, though a few were missing.


Peter C.
_______________________________________________

Peter is right.  Ron won the pole for the first race that the powers that be 
decided to try a grand experiment and line them up in reverse order for the 
race.  No problem.  Ron whittled his way through the pack in a matter of 
just a few laps.  Well done, Ron.  Very well done.

By the way, when Ron got back to the pits after the race, we all met him 
before he could get out of the car and slapped hands in congratulations. 
About 5 to 10 minutes later he came up to us and announced, incredulously, 
that he won.  That was good for a few laughs as the only person who didn't 
realize he won was the driver.  By the way, that isn't that unusual as it 
happened to me once, too.  The driver only sees the guys in front of him and 
knows he has to pass them all even though some are a lap down.  Still, it 
was funny to see it happen to somebody else.

Peter, you realize, of course, that now that Ron set the bar a little 
higher, we are going to have to expect this out of him every weeekend, 
right?

Way to go, Ron,

LAD

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Jun 22 18:18:20 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:18:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0906221031g57fdfffq3a3368f00fd4e013@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A3F5A26.27670.AFBB94@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<fbc9308f0906221031g57fdfffq3a3368f00fd4e013@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A3FBCDC.2065.23152DB@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I have the exact same body style and rag-top frame as shown in the 
pictures of Rocks' Red Beast!!
Including the wierd quarter arc shape in the aluminium trim..

Can anyone identify it, the supplier ortell me where that Roll Bar 
came from?? 

Or if someone has one lying around in his garage, unloved and 
unwanted??  <VBG> 

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Mon Jun 22 18:49:55 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:49:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <4A3FBCDC.2065.23152DB@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A3F5A26.27670.AFBB94@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<fbc9308f0906221031g57fdfffq3a3368f00fd4e013@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4A3FBCDC.2065.23152DB@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4A3FC443.22971.24E3DF5@kk7ss.verizon.net>

That should read "Rick" not 'Rock'
They put the 'O' and the 'I' too close together on the keyboard....
At least, that's my excuse for today.....

On 22 Jun 2009 at 17:18, Dave G. wrote:
>> I have the exact same body style and rag-top frame as shown in the
>> pictures of Rocks' Red Beast!!


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 22 21:44:43 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:44:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <4A3FC443.22971.24E3DF5@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A3F5A26.27670.AFBB94@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<fbc9308f0906221031g57fdfffq3a3368f00fd4e013@mail.gmail.com>,
	<4A3FBCDC.2065.23152DB@kk7ss.verizon.net> 
	<4A3FC443.22971.24E3DF5@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W2D24CE64A67CDFAA530ECCA360@phx.gbl>

Actually Rick's is a '63 (or '64) MkII Sprite, yours should be a MkIII ('65)
but the rollbar SHOULD fit the same.

The guy that Rick bought the car from bought it (around 25 years ago) with the
bar already in and also doesn't know its parentage.

BillM

Dave the fitting is "in the mail" :)

Bill

> From: kk7ss at verizon.net
> To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 17:49:55 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
>
> That should read "Rick" not 'Rock'
> They put the 'O' and the 'I' too close together on the keyboard....
> At least, that's my excuse for today.....
>
> On 22 Jun 2009 at 17:18, Dave G. wrote:
> >> I have the exact same body style and rag-top frame as shown in the
> >> pictures of Rocks' Red Beast!!
>
>
> --
> Dave G. KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
> alive !!
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From frog.aye at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 23:48:26 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:48:26 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spitting carbs - again...
In-Reply-To: <4A313C2D.27220.5E10D3@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <BAY118-DAV152E2E4C2B30FAD27422DC8420@phx.gbl>
	<402188520906111302m49062c38w3ef3715d3cd4fed4@mail.gmail.com>
	<48F75FAFBED44EA6A9DFF1B89E47C773@BASEMENTDELL>
	<4A313C2D.27220.5E10D3@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4333f8140906222248l6514975br3eb876137ee0c8af@mail.gmail.com>

O.K. I'm a bit tardy with this but FWIW:
I'm not certain from your description exactly what is happening but....
On p60 and again on p68 of the 3rd edition of Vizard he describes a
situation he refers to as "standoff" which could be what you are
describing.  One possible cure is a good ram pipe inside the filters.

Hal

From thcollin at mtu.edu  Tue Jun 23 08:01:49 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:01:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - Analysis of Sales
Message-ID: <7ll0se$6j7g1u@email.mtu.edu>

No LBC content unless you buy and sell LBC stuff on Ebay.

Ebay seems to have a "love / hate" image with Spridget listers so 
here's some info to think about.

I just came across an analysis of Ebay selling by Don Lancaster, an 
engineer, who concludes:

Around 75 percent of eBay sales lose money.
Less than 5 percent of eBay sales exceed $100.
Price and sellthru are only weakly related;
With an 0.4 sellthru being typical.
A buyer is nearly THIRTY TIMES more likely
to make a $20 purchase than a $100 one.
The eBay market for big ticket items is much
lower than most people suspect.
The "best" eBay selling price is $24.95. And
quite possibly the most profitable.

You can read his interesting analysis leading to these conclusions in 
a pdf file at: http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaystat.pdf.
Warning: His paper is kinda "mathy" but if you stick with it and just 
read around some of the equations, you might learn something about 
how to adjust your Ebay strategies - from a mathematical perspective. 
I believe he has several other papers on Ebay strategies that are 
probably good reading too.

If Ebay and math aren't of interest, you might find his biography 
interesting: http://www.tinaja.com/glib/waywere.pdf
If you ever picked up an electronics, radio, or computer magazine you 
have probably already read his writings. Maybe you even built one of 
his electronics/computer kits!


Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jun 23 08:13:22 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:13:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - Analysis of Sales
Message-ID: <944477.12865.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Author sounds like someone with nothing much to do.
 
Here's my proven facts:
 
I make money on my sales.
 
Some good stuff doesn't sell.
 
Some stuff I would describe as garbage is sold at very high prices.
(And yes I accurately describe each item.)
 
Most items sell but demand within categories is cyclical.
 
Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:


From: Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - Analysis of Sales
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 10:01 AM


No LBC content unless you buy and sell LBC stuff on Ebay.

Ebay seems to have a "love / hate" image with Spridget listers so here's some
info to think about.

I just came across an analysis of Ebay selling by Don Lancaster, an engineer,
who concludes:

Around 75 percent of eBay sales lose money.
Less than 5 percent of eBay sales exceed $100.
Price and sellthru are only weakly related;
With an 0.4 sellthru being typical.
A buyer is nearly THIRTY TIMES more likely
to make a $20 purchase than a $100 one.
The eBay market for big ticket items is much
lower than most people suspect.
The "best" eBay selling price is $24.95. And
quite possibly the most profitable.

You can read his interesting analysis leading to these conclusions in a pdf
file at: http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaystat.pdf.
Warning: His paper is kinda "mathy" but if you stick with it and just read
around some of the equations, you might learn something about how to adjust
your Ebay strategies - from a mathematical perspective. I believe he has
several other papers on Ebay strategies that are probably good reading too.

If Ebay and math aren't of interest, you might find his biography interesting:
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/waywere.pdf
If you ever picked up an electronics, radio, or computer magazine you have
probably already read his writings. Maybe you even built one of his
electronics/computer kits!

From bighealey at charter.net  Tue Jun 23 08:23:01 2009
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:23:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Truth in 24 movie (LeMans documentary)- No LBC
In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10906221633u15c11040n595d1cbd873bf91b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F896A7ED20AE460890A07CFBBAC79F99@TRACY>

It ran on speed just before the airing of the 2009 24 hours.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:34 PM
To: Phil Nase
Cc: spridgets Spridgets at autox.team. Net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Truth in 24 movie (LeMans documentary)- No LBC

Best of such movies I've seen.

Herb

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Phil Nase <nases at verizon.net> wrote:

> There is a free movie download at itunes called "Truth in 24" about Audi's
> 2008 LeMans effort.  Lots of track conversations with drivers and good
> footage.
>
> Great movie even if you don't like Audi.
>
> Phil Nase
> Quakertown, PA
>
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Jun 23 08:31:46 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 07:31:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - Analysis of Sales
In-Reply-To: <7ll0se$6j7g1u@email.mtu.edu>
References: <7ll0se$6j7g1u@email.mtu.edu>
Message-ID: <23A0DB04A0B94B17AD6D1D6A9E5E693A@spider>

Here is my analysis of eBay listings of Beanie Babies (bubble bust.)
http://www.97330.com/AboutMe.html

=========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Collins
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:02 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - Analysis of Sales

No LBC content unless you buy and sell LBC stuff on Ebay.

Ebay seems to have a "love / hate" image with Spridget listers so 
here's some info to think about.

I just came across an analysis of Ebay selling by Don Lancaster, an 
engineer, who concludes:

Around 75 percent of eBay sales lose money.
Less than 5 percent of eBay sales exceed $100.
Price and sellthru are only weakly related;
With an 0.4 sellthru being typical.
A buyer is nearly THIRTY TIMES more likely
to make a $20 purchase than a $100 one.
The eBay market for big ticket items is much
lower than most people suspect.
The "best" eBay selling price is $24.95. And
quite possibly the most profitable.

You can read his interesting analysis leading to these conclusions in 
a pdf file at: http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaystat.pdf.
Warning: His paper is kinda "mathy" but if you stick with it and just 
read around some of the equations, you might learn something about 
how to adjust your Ebay strategies - from a mathematical perspective. 
I believe he has several other papers on Ebay strategies that are 
probably good reading too.

If Ebay and math aren't of interest, you might find his biography 
interesting: http://www.tinaja.com/glib/waywere.pdf
If you ever picked up an electronics, radio, or computer magazine you 
have probably already read his writings. Maybe you even built one of 
his electronics/computer kits!

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 
_______________________________________________

From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Jun 23 14:42:33 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:42:33 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090623204242.E50EA187A65@autox.team.net>

Lock the boot?
		Crash


Anyone got an idea about keeping the side curtains in the car at freeway
speeds?

Rick (on the road again...) Bastedo
_______________________________________________

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 14:45:04 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:45:04 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <4a413e3b.130bca0a.29db.4091SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906231345v2373cb39j54906b0ada1730f0@mail.gmail.com>

oh Dave - you're a funny one!

I only want to have them on if it's wet or cold out.

The boot is perfectly fine for nice warm days like today!



On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:42 PM, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:

> Lock the boot?
>                Crash
>
>
> Anyone got an idea about keeping the side curtains in the car at freeway
> speeds?
>
> Rick (on the road again...) Bastedo
> _______________________________________________

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun 23 15:08:38 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:08:38 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <fbc9308f0906231345v2373cb39j54906b0ada1730f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
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	<fbc9308f0906231345v2373cb39j54906b0ada1730f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A414456.8010401@frontiernet.net>

WUSS!

Kate


Rick Bastedo wrote:
> oh Dave - you're a funny one!
>
> I only want to have them on if it's wet or cold out.
>
> The boot is perfectly fine for nice warm days like today!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:42 PM, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> Lock the boot?
>>                Crash
>>
>>
>> Anyone got an idea about keeping the side curtains in the car at freeway
>> speeds?
>>
>> Rick (on the road again...) Bastedo
>> _______________________________________________
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 15:47:24 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:47:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <4A414456.8010401@frontiernet.net>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a413e3b.130bca0a.29db.4091SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
	<fbc9308f0906231345v2373cb39j54906b0ada1730f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A414456.8010401@frontiernet.net>
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> WUSS!

Says the lady with roll-up windows and a fold-down top on her Spridget ;-)

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun 23 16:08:05 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 15:08:05 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <402188520906231447v1f31492eqab1fe00ef6b8029d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a413e3b.130bca0a.29db.4091SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
	<fbc9308f0906231345v2373cb39j54906b0ada1730f0@mail.gmail.com>
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	<402188520906231447v1f31492eqab1fe00ef6b8029d@mail.gmail.com>
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The windows haven't seen daylight in nearly 20 years, and the top is on 
a shelf in my garage.  I have driven through snowstorms with the top 
off.  I repeat - WUSS!

Kate



>> WUSS!
>>     
>
> Says the lady with roll-up windows and a fold-down top on her Spridget ;-)
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From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Tue Jun 23 16:33:52 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:33:52 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <4A415245.9080401@frontiernet.net>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
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	<4A415245.9080401@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906231533g593a66e6w8846f8fff4cc1ae5@mail.gmail.com>

Ummmm....    What's a "top"??

ED

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net> wrote:

> The windows haven't seen daylight in nearly 20 years, and the top is on a
> shelf in my garage.  I have driven through snowstorms with the top off.  I
> repeat - WUSS!
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>  WUSS!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Says the lady with roll-up windows and a fold-down top on her Spridget ;-)

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 23 17:47:41 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:47:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com><4a413e3b.130bca0a.29db.4091SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com><fbc9308f0906231345v2373cb39j54906b0ada1730f0@mail.gmail.com><4A414456.8010401@frontiernet.net><402188520906231447v1f31492eqab1fe00ef6b8029d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A415245.9080401@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <629340E6E2CC47F8B69B90B6580BF3B2@Larry>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!


The windows haven't seen daylight in nearly 20 years, and the top is on
a shelf in my garage.  I have driven through snowstorms with the top
off.  I repeat - WUSS!

Kate


=================

I don't know, Kate.  I'm thinking that the guy that puts the top up during a 
snowstorm could more accurately be described as sane than a wuss.  ;-))


LAD 

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 19:34:34 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:34:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906231533g593a66e6w8846f8fff4cc1ae5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a413e3b.130bca0a.29db.4091SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
	<fbc9308f0906231345v2373cb39j54906b0ada1730f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A414456.8010401@frontiernet.net>
	<402188520906231447v1f31492eqab1fe00ef6b8029d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A415245.9080401@frontiernet.net>
	<43840a7e0906231533g593a66e6w8846f8fff4cc1ae5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A4182AA.1040606@comcast.net>

Jim Johnson wrote:
> Ummmm....    What's a "top"??
>
>
>   
That is that black thing you always see on Fiats and Miatas.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 23 19:42:45 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:42:45 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget guys at BHF
In-Reply-To: <200906220734166.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <866187.11615.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<200906220706744.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<BAY112-W45433F1BD1441BCD5BC4D3B8390@phx.gbl> 
	<200906220734166.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W2FFCBBA33AB0F14167438C2370@phx.gbl>

ROTFLMAO Peter!

Grats Ron!!! Good Job!


Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



>  > At 07:27 AM 6/22/2009, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote:
> > >> ... and passed everyone but himself.
> >
> >
> >
> >So ... you're saying that there's still room for improvement?
> ==============
> Naw... last time he passed himself, he came back to the paddock on a
hook......
>

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From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 19:45:40 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:45:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] And I just bought another one
Message-ID: <4A418544.6030706@comcast.net>

Ebay, $50 and about 8 miles from my house.
Just a rust free tub, unknown year but from the pic on Ebay, it looks 
like a RWA Midget.
The pic clipped off most of the rear end.
But hey, for $50 and it's close to home, this gives me a project for 
between projects ;)
Yesterday a buddy dropped of his Midget, it needs some work done to the 
fenders and a paint job.
I have been projectless for almost 2 whole weeks.
Now I have at least 4 backing up.
Buddy's Midget
My 59 needs a re-do
The project tub I didn't see yet
And I have a bugeye out at the coop that needs to be done one of these 
years.
If anybody wants a Midget, let me know. You can pick the color and 
extent of the finish. I just do not need another Spridget, I have 4 in
the family on the road and an  Austin A40 on the road, Jr just bought a 
Minor that needs Dad's help and now a tub.
I needed a tub so I can bolt on all the parts taking up room in my garage.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 19:44:50 2009
From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:44:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <4A4182AA.1040606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <29873754.8365261245807890218.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

you know thanks to Larry macy every rare time i go out and have the top up (due to sub freezing temps, snowing, raining) i now feel guilty. 
ryan 
'74 with the top down for 3 months straight so far..... 
gotta love that tunnau? 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net> 
To: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman at gmail.com> 
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:34:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics! 

Jim Johnson wrote: 
> Ummmm.... What's a "top"?? 
> 
> 
> 
That is that black thing you always see on Fiats and Miatas. 


-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
My own Fleet of Sprites 
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 23 19:46:49 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:46:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV7A79B2C2A27E2DEF2A5D9C8390@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV7A79B2C2A27E2DEF2A5D9C8390@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W12BCE2EB7172E644EE60B3C2370@phx.gbl>

Now Cap'n,

IIRC, it was because you wouldn't drive to Sprite Spree 03,
only about 100 mile drive for ya....or to Kevins Rally, even closer.
 Some great Spridget roads on the way.
Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> From: pilotrob at webtv.net
>
> Well said, JF.
>
> Said the same thing to y'all in different words 4-5 years ago when I turned
60+.....and was called less than "a man".
>
> But I wisely behaved and held my tongue, knowing full well there would come
a day.....as it does for all of us.
>
> Still a great fun ride for the shorter trips though, for sure. :)
>
> Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Fishbein
> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:14 PM
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009
>
> Whether one does it or not, has done it or not, Spridgets were not designed
as
> a highway car. While a handful might consider them fun on the interstate
for
> days on end, it equates to punishment for most others.
>
> Considering a 2,000 mile trip in a Spridget unappealing  has nothing to do
> with one's enthusiasm for the car.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/18/09, mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com> wrote:
>
> From: mike rambour <mikey at b2systems.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG 2009
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 12:01 PM
>
>
>
>  Come on, take the top off and drive the thing, you and your wife will
> love it.


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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Jun 23 20:25:45 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:25:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
Message-ID: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Which looks better on a SWA Spridget with original wire wheels...
The two-eared spinners?
Or
The hexagon nut??

I have both - the spinners are in excellent condition and the 
hexagons are (honorably) worn...

I'm not starting a flame war,---- I just can't make up my mind  ;^((

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Jun 23 20:26:03 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:26:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
Message-ID: <4A412C4B.26502.2611DD8@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Which looks better on a SWA Spridget with original wire wheels...
The two-eared spinners?
Or
The hexagon nut??

I have both - the spinners are in excellent condition and the 
hexagons are (honorably) worn...

I'm not starting a flame war,---- I just can't make up my mind  ;^((

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 23 20:41:12 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:41:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4A419248.6020300@comcast.net>

Dave G. wrote:
> Which looks better on a SWA Spridget with original wire wheels...
> The two-eared spinners?
> Or
> The hexagon nut??
>
>   
I like the eared knock offs.
The hex nuts were a safety thing, I guess so you didn't reverse against 
a curb and "undo" your wheels.


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Jun 23 20:41:22 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:41:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <4A412C4B.26502.2611DD8@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A412C4B.26502.2611DD8@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <5D54EC653B9440378932B216862D9DB7@spider>

Two of one type on one side; the other pair on the other side.
See if anyone notices. ...bill in oregon
=================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:26 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...

Which looks better on a SWA Spridget with original wire wheels...
The two-eared spinners?
Or
The hexagon nut??

I have both - the spinners are in excellent condition and the 
hexagons are (honorably) worn...

I'm not starting a flame war,---- I just can't make up my mind  ;^((

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 05:28:41 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:28:41 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <4A415245.9080401@frontiernet.net>
References: <fbc9308f0906220729l4a2aa6c3q49d1f5a4c057ccc1@mail.gmail.com>
	<4a413e3b.130bca0a.29db.4091SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com>
	<fbc9308f0906231345v2373cb39j54906b0ada1730f0@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A414456.8010401@frontiernet.net>
	<402188520906231447v1f31492eqab1fe00ef6b8029d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A415245.9080401@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <402188520906240428w27b97633ub59b7f7c18b48ba2@mail.gmail.com>

> The windows haven't seen daylight in nearly 20 years, and the top is on a
> shelf in my garage.  I have driven through snowstorms with the top off.

Kate,
You really SHOULD drive that car a little oftener than that... ;-)
ED

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 24 05:45:01 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:45:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] List guy at work
Message-ID: <66799.92487.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Great review, and LBC content - the tan mentioned in the article was obtained in the Blackhawk Farms paddock playing around with LAD's Austin Utility vehicle (Zoom referred to it as an Austin Ranchero), Peter's 64 Mini Cooper, Woerpel's MINI, and my "White Trash" Bugeye:

http://77square.com/music/reviews/story_455885

Ron

From soavero at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 24 05:50:01 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:50:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] List guy at work
Message-ID: <755478.93044.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Also had David Lieb's well-traveled Bugeye, formerly owned by Crash.

David, also let me know if you want any Hoosier take offs 185/60-13. Anyone else as well if David doesn't. I have 8.

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Great review, and LBC content - the
> tan mentioned in the article was obtained in the Blackhawk
> Farms paddock playing around with LAD's Austin Utility
> vehicle (Zoom referred to it as an Austin Ranchero), Peter's
> 64 Mini Cooper, Woerpel's MINI, and my "White Trash"
> Bugeye:
> 
> http://77square.com/music/reviews/story_455885
> 
> Ron

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 05:57:06 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:57:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] List guy at work
In-Reply-To: <755478.93044.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <755478.93044.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906240457j673a0834yd68d64d3b9dfab21@mail.gmail.com>

Right, now that I just got a set of Comp T/A R1 tires last night!

Gee, you got to SIT at the concert? How wrong is that?! And they
played a song acoustic so you all had to pull out your earplugs for a
while. I guess it IS different in Wisconsiberia. Sounds like you are
still riding your high!
David L

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 24 06:15:39 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:15:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] And I just bought another one
Message-ID: <821770.12610.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I almost bid on that one when there were zero bids, but the timing was wrong for me to be able to bring it home. I need to wait till my wife's out of town.
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
Ebay, $50 and about 8 miles from my house.
Just a rust free tub, unknown year but from the pic on Ebay, it looks like a RWA Midget.

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 10:48:18 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:48:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906240948t11646896kf2fa81c15c125c97@mail.gmail.com>

hmmm, maybe so...

I'm 50 years old. I grew up logging and farming, working with all sorts of
heavy equipment.
I've been through 40+ car & motorcycle wrecks, all kinds of flaming
impacting experiences that could have caused a lot more inconvenience than
what I let them.
I currently have 4 daughters & 2 sons  - 3 teenagers, two 'tweens' and a
daughter going to college living at home. etc... etc... etc...

Maybe I am a wuss - I guess I've been called a lot worse!

I put new carpet and new seats in the car and am just trying to protect
them.
Not to mention, trying to avoid that musty moldy nasty stuff that grows on
everything that stays wet here in the Pacific Northwest.

8-)

Rick (keeping my carpets dry) Bastedo


> From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!

> WUSS!

> Kate

From cclabaw at juno.com  Wed Jun 24 11:16:38 2009
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:16:38 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
Message-ID: <20090624.101638.14930.2@webmail17.dca.untd.com>

Frank -

I was told at the time that it was a DoT mandate to protect pedestrians
(ankles?).

Clay L.

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Frank <spritenut at comcast.net>
To: kk7ss at verizon.net
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:41:12 -0400

Dave G. wrote:
> Which looks better on a SWA Spridget with original wire wheels...
> The two-eared spinners?
> Or
> The hexagon nut??
>
>
I like the eared knock offs.
The hex nuts were a safety thing, I guess so you didn't reverse against
a curb and "undo" your wheels.


--
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com

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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 11:24:59 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:24:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <20090624.101638.14930.2@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090624.101638.14930.2@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4A41FEFB.8329.A6B58C@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Remember those little chrome hoods that were fitted on headlights??
Surgeons in ER's use to call them "Kidney Choppers" -- for obvious 
reasons...

On 24 Jun 2009 at 17:16, cclabaw at juno.com wrote:

>> I was told at the time that it was a DoT mandate to protect
>> pedestrians (ankles?).


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun 24 11:52:17 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:52:17 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <4A41FEFB.8329.A6B58C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <20090624.101638.14930.2@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
	<4A41FEFB.8329.A6B58C@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <565A605E95DD4BEC918ED6AEF49BAEC7@spider>

Imagine a Wiggler Rotoscope out on the hood. Chop, chop, chop.
http://www.mascot-mania.co.uk/orphanage.html?/rotoscope.html&19orphan57

Similar item on eBay;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280359257461
------------------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 10:25 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...

Remember those little chrome hoods that were fitted on headlights??
Surgeons in ER's use to call them "Kidney Choppers" -- for obvious 
reasons...

On 24 Jun 2009 at 17:16, cclabaw at juno.com wrote:

>> I was told at the time that it was a DOT mandate to protect
>> pedestrians (ankles?).

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 12:58:54 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:58:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906241158t5159ea2fle6ee3bbae8fa4d69@mail.gmail.com>

Let me clarify a bit - 40+ accidents between the ages of 11 - 30.
Mostly my fault for one reason or another.

Maturity and/or having children somehow have changed that behavior.

Rick (safer on the road now) Bastedo



**********************************************
From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

hmmm, maybe so...

I'm 50 years old. I grew up logging and farming, working with all sorts of
heavy equipment.
I've been through 40+ car & motorcycle wrecks, all kinds of flaming
impacting experiences that could have caused a lot more inconvenience than
what I let them.
I currently have 4 daughters & 2 sons  - 3 teenagers, two 'tweens' and a
daughter going to college living at home. etc... etc... etc...

Maybe I am a wuss - I guess I've been called a lot worse!

I put new carpet and new seats in the car and am just trying to protect
them.
Not to mention, trying to avoid that musty moldy nasty stuff that grows on
everything that stays wet here in the Pacific Northwest.

8-)

Rick (keeping my carpets dry) Bastedo


> From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!

> WUSS!

> Kate

From gjbranch at comcast.net  Wed Jun 24 13:04:05 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:04:05 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
References: <fbc9308f0906241158t5159ea2fle6ee3bbae8fa4d69@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0a7d01c9f4fe$8ba13c00$0201a8c0@DELL>

Don't sell yourself short, though.  You were doing 2 a year in your prime!!!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Bastedo" <rbastedo at gmail.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!


> Let me clarify a bit - 40+ accidents between the ages of 11 - 30.
> Mostly my fault for one reason or another.
>
> Maturity and/or having children somehow have changed that behavior.
>
> Rick (safer on the road now) Bastedo
>
>
>
> **********************************************
> From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> hmmm, maybe so...
>
> I'm 50 years old. I grew up logging and farming, working with all sorts of
> heavy equipment.
> I've been through 40+ car & motorcycle wrecks, all kinds of flaming
> impacting experiences that could have caused a lot more inconvenience than
> what I let them.
> I currently have 4 daughters & 2 sons  - 3 teenagers, two 'tweens' and a
> daughter going to college living at home. etc... etc... etc...
>
> Maybe I am a wuss - I guess I've been called a lot worse!
>
> I put new carpet and new seats in the car and am just trying to protect
> them.
> Not to mention, trying to avoid that musty moldy nasty stuff that grows on
> everything that stays wet here in the Pacific Northwest.
>
> 8-)
>
> Rick (keeping my carpets dry) Bastedo
>
>
>> From: Kathryn Bales <kgb at frontiernet.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
>
>> WUSS!
>
>> Kate
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:08:59 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:08:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Top up or Down
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906241208kfc1e90j4fcaa3a0139a5e4b@mail.gmail.com>

I love driving my B Eye with the top up almost as much with the top down.
Something about being cramped in that tight noisy space that makes me feel
like it is me against the world in my little machine.

Old Brit cars were implanted into my psyche when I was around ten years
old.

A boy friend of a gal that lived across the street used to take me out in
his new white red interior Bugeye that his dad bought for him new.

He used to get a kick out of scaring the heck out of me. . . taking turns at
super fast speeds.

When I came into a windfall of 106k I bought a running non rust car with a
rebuilt 1275 for $4,400.  Since then I have put about 1,500 into doing
upgrades, front disc's Weber, Monza exhaust, headers, electric fan with Geo
Metro radiator. .  urethane bushings, sway bar, elec fuel pump, rib case
gear box. .  high energy ign with Pertronix in a Mallory dual point as well
as a host of other things to include a new gear redux starter,  Toyota
alternator, etc etc etc.

*I guess most of us had an early experience that set us on this course?
*
Kirk
PS
My first Brit car. .  a clean 1960 MGA that I was a fool for selling.  I
paid $1,500 for it in primo condition.
Drove the dog out of it and it never let me down.  I bought it in 1976.

(I am still waiting for the next "windfall" but there is nothing on the
horizon)!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:11:18 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:11:18 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Top up or Down
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906241208kfc1e90j4fcaa3a0139a5e4b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906241208kfc1e90j4fcaa3a0139a5e4b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906241211p69688b67q99c0ef24bb202161@mail.gmail.com>

> (I am still waiting for the next "windfall" but there is nothing on the
> horizon)!


I think you need to start following Frank around and be ready to jump
into the lead at the critical moment....
Lorry Denials

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 14:00:57 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:00:57 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <20090624.101638.14930.2@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
References: <20090624.101638.14930.2@webmail17.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0906241300l5c63b1a2mf061090a15384f68@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com> wrote:
I was told at the time that it was a DoT mandate to protect pedestrians
(ankles?).
No, it was most likely becasue of the Hollywood "starlet" who was driving
her car with a long scarf on that got snagged on the spinner and choked her
to death... The bleeding heart liberals were after spinners for a long time
in order to protect us from ourselves! From there it probably became the
"cash for clunkers" idea...

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From jfishbein at snet.net  Wed Jun 24 14:20:51 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:20:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
Message-ID: <883524.73275.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Very true.

Even though this action was taken 40 years ago, this too can, and should be, blamed on the Obama administration.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT


--- On Wed, 6/24/09, CosmicMag1380 <cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com> wrote:

The bleeding heart liberals were after spinners for a long time
in order to protect us from ourselves! From there it probably became the
"cash for clunkers" idea...

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun 24 14:26:51 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:26:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Opinion s requested...
Message-ID: <E8144A458DD4476397F98A573F735E9E@spider>

>From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isadora_Duncan

Duncan's fondness for flowing scarves which trailed behind her was the cause
of her death in a freak automobile accident
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unusual_deaths>  in Nice
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice> , France, on the night of September 14,
1927, at the age of 50.  . . .

Duncan was a passenger in the Amilcar <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amilcar>
[5] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isadora_Duncan#cite_note-4#cite_note-4>
automobile of a handsome French-Italian mechanic, Benont Falchetto, whom she
had nicknamed 'Buggatti' [sic].  . . .when Falchetto drove off, Duncan's
immense handpainted silk scarf, which was a gift from Desti and was large
enough to be wrapped around her body and neck and flutter out of the car,
became entangled around one of the vehicle's open-spoked wheels and rear
axle. As The New York Times
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_York_Times>  noted in its obituary of
the dancer on September 15, 1927, "Isadora Duncan, the American dancer,
tonight met a tragic death at Nice on the Riviera. According to dispatches
from Nice Miss Duncan was hurled in an extraordinary manner from an open
automobile in which she was riding and instantly killed by the force of her
fall to the stone pavement."[6]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isadora_Duncan#cite_note-5#cite_note-5>  Other
sources describe her death as resulting from strangulation, noting that she
was almost decapitated by the sudden tightening of the scarf around her
neck.[7]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isadora_Duncan#cite_note-6#cite_note-6>

===================================================================



-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:01 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...



On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:16 AM, cclabaw at juno.com <cclabaw at juno.com> wrote:

I was told at the time that it was a DOT mandate to protect pedestrians

(ankles?).

No, it was most likely because of the Hollywood "starlet" who was driving

her car with a long scarf on that got snagged on the spinner and choked her

to death... The bleeding heart liberals were after spinners for a long time

in order to protect us from ourselves! From there it probably became the

"cash for clunkers" idea...

--

Kent

1960 Bugeye

1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

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From peter at nosimport.com  Wed Jun 24 16:39:30 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:39:30 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20090624133993.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

I don't think you have a choice if you only have 1 set of axles. 
IIRC, they are 2 different threads (sorry Jay)

But I like the ears best. Besides, you get to whack them with a 
hammer.... a most satisfying sound rather than beating the wrench 
thing which is another tool you have to carry and loose.

         Peter C
==
At 07:25 PM 6/23/2009, Dave G. wrote:
>Which looks better on a SWA Spridget with original wire wheels...
>The two-eared spinners?
>Or
>The hexagon nut??
>
>I have both - the spinners are in excellent condition and the
>hexagons are (honorably) worn...

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 15:21:39 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:21:39 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <20090624133993.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<20090624133993.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
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Couple of points here since I had the winged ones on my 1946 MG TC and loved
them...

1.  According to at least Mo$$ the wings are available in both thread sizes.


2. They were developed for rapid changes of wheels on racing cars back in
the day.

3. They are MUCH easier to get on and off than the hex using the proper
brass/lead Thor hammer.

4. "Cash for Clunkers" was introduced some years ago in California by Nancy
Pelosi and Barbara Boxer. It was a miserable failure as it will be this
time. It's our own fault for letting them do it on a national level despite
its demonstrated failure.

I guess when it doesn't work in wacky land, you get the same people to foist
it off on the entire country. Maybe we can ALL go bankrupt like California!!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com> wrote:

> I don't think you have a choice if you only have 1 set of axles. IIRC, they
> are 2 different threads (sorry Jay)
>
> But I like the ears best. Besides, you get to whack them with a hammer....
> a most satisfying sound rather than beating the wrench thing which is
> another tool you have to carry and loose.
>
>        Peter C
> ==
> At 07:25 PM 6/23/2009, Dave G. wrote:
>
>> Which looks better on a SWA Spridget with original wire wheels...
>> The two-eared spinners?
>> Or
>> The hexagon nut??
>>
>> I have both - the spinners are in excellent condition and the
>> hexagons are (honorably) worn...
>>
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 15:33:23 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:33:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906241421q4c31e736o4eadedb8b3f3d7a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<20090624133993.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>,
	<43840a7e0906241421q4c31e736o4eadedb8b3f3d7a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A423933.1007.89B4D0@kk7ss.verizon.net>

>> 2. They were developed for rapid changes of wheels on racing cars back
>> in the day.
I well remember back in the the '50's watching the  mechanics 
hammering away at the British racing circuits and at Le Mans... IMHO 
it looks more exciting than air-tools

>> 3. They are MUCH easier to get on and off than the hex using the
>> proper brass/lead Thor hammer.
Got me one of those - and a BigMother in Lead - 7lbs !!
 
>>  Maybe we can ALL go bankrupt like California!!
If being bankrupt means spending more than you earn, then I guess 
this country is bankrupt!!  No???

--
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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 15:33:46 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:33:46 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0906241421q4c31e736o4eadedb8b3f3d7a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<20090624133993.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<43840a7e0906241421q4c31e736o4eadedb8b3f3d7a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906241433w419cc264r777ce4032ea57bc4@mail.gmail.com>

> 3. They are MUCH easier to get on and off than the hex using the proper
> brass/lead Thor hammer.

And just why do people keep referring to "hex" when the nuts are OCTAGONAL?
ED

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 15:36:52 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:36:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <402188520906241433w419cc264r777ce4032ea57bc4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<43840a7e0906241421q4c31e736o4eadedb8b3f3d7a0@mail.gmail.com>,
	<402188520906241433w419cc264r777ce4032ea57bc4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A423A04.25521.8CE7A2@kk7ss.verizon.net>

VooDoo ?

On 24 Jun 2009 at 16:33, David Lieb wrote:
>> And just why do people keep referring to "hex" when the nuts are
>> OCTAGONAL? ED


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 15:48:52 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:48:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <20090624133993.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<20090624133993.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4A423CD4.17166.97E513@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Hi Peter C.,

I'll have to be careful... I wasn't aware that they were two 
different TPI's...

I have splined axles/hubs on all 4 corners - still sharp. ( and a 
complete spare front/back set of axles at 8 TPI).

I have a set of Octagon's at 8 TPI, and a set of two-eared on the car 
-  TPI unknown !!
I'll have to take one off and check it...

I just didn't want to be mistaken for a 'low-rider'  <VBG>

On 24 Jun 2009 at 15:39, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>> I don't think you have a choice if you only have 1 set of axles. IIRC,
>> they are 2 different threads (sorry Jay)


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 15:59:20 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:59:20 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <4A423CD4.17166.97E513@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<20090624133993.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4A423CD4.17166.97E513@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <e98d88090906241459l10227482s2fe5c110bad21437@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but if they are sharp, they are worn out...

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi Peter C.,
>
> I'll have to be careful... I wasn't aware that they were two
> different TPI's...
>
> I have splined axles/hubs on all 4 corners - still sharp. ( and a
> complete spare front/back set of axles at 8 TPI).
>
> I have a set of Octagon's at 8 TPI, and a set of two-eared on the car
> -  TPI unknown !!
> I'll have to take one off and check it...
>
> I just didn't want to be mistaken for a 'low-rider'  <VBG>
>
> On 24 Jun 2009 at 15:39, Peter Caldwell wrote:
> >> I don't think you have a choice if you only have 1 set of axles. IIRC,
> >> they are 2 different threads (sorry Jay)
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
> alive !!
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Wed Jun 24 16:05:31 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:05:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090906241459l10227482s2fe5c110bad21437@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net><20090624133993.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4A423CD4.17166.97E513@kk7ss.verizon.net>
	<e98d88090906241459l10227482s2fe5c110bad21437@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C1059BF2B0294633AC43DB699B42062A@spider>

You're correct. I have the images from the Jag manual. ...bill in oregon
============================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:59 PM
To: Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...

I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but if they are sharp, they are worn out...


==============================================================
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi Peter C.,
>
> I'll have to be careful... I wasn't aware that they were two
> different TPI's...
>
> I have splined axles/hubs on all 4 corners - still sharp. ( and a
> complete spare front/back set of axles at 8 TPI).
>
> I have a set of Octagon's at 8 TPI, and a set of two-eared on the car
> -  TPI unknown !!
> I'll have to take one off and check it...
>
> I just didn't want to be mistaken for a 'low-rider'  <VBG>
>
> On 24 Jun 2009 at 15:39, Peter Caldwell wrote:
> >> I don't think you have a choice if you only have 1 set of axles. IIRC,
> >> they are 2 different threads (sorry Jay)
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
> alive !!
> _______________________________________________
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 16:18:45 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:18:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090906241459l10227482s2fe5c110bad21437@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<4A423CD4.17166.97E513@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<e98d88090906241459l10227482s2fe5c110bad21437@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A4243D5.1211.B340BA@kk7ss.verizon.net>

By 'sharp', I don't mean like an inverted 'V' - I know that would 
mean well worn and useless!
They are more like a flat-topped 'A' something like " \_/" , but the 
transition from the flat-top to the sloping sides of the teeth are 
sharp and not rounded; which I take to be "not worn", Yes??

On 24 Jun 2009 at 16:59, Brad Fornal wrote:

>> I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but if they are sharp, they are worn
>> out...


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Wed Jun 24 19:09:12 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:09:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MSD ignition or comparable with a 1275
Message-ID: <906448.90735.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Anyone have experience with an MSD ignition or something comparable with a 1275?  What is required for the install and tuning?

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Wed Jun 24 19:25:49 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:25:49 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
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	<4A4243D5.1211.B340BA@kk7ss.verizon.net>
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Drawing:
http://www.britishwirewheel.com/faq.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G.
Sent: June 24, 2009 6:19 PM
To: Brad Fornal; Spridget list
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...

By 'sharp', I don't mean like an inverted 'V' - I know that would 
mean well worn and useless!
They are more like a flat-topped 'A' something like " \_/" , but the 
transition from the flat-top to the sloping sides of the teeth are 
sharp and not rounded; which I take to be "not worn", Yes??

On 24 Jun 2009 at 16:59, Brad Fornal wrote:

>> I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but if they are sharp, they are worn
>> out...


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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
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From kk7ss at verizon.net  Wed Jun 24 19:43:12 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:43:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Opinion s requested...
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP88CE22205380D82EDD9F46B8340@phx.gbl>
References: <4A412C39.29881.260D6F9@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<4A4243D5.1211.B340BA@kk7ss.verizon.net>,
	<BLU0-SMTP88CE22205380D82EDD9F46B8340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A4273C0.24189.16E6BE3@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Thank you, Sir...
I'll check tomorrow or Sunday.... it's 100*F in the garage right now, 
and one  of my boys is getting married Saturday, so Sunday it will be 
 ;-))

On 24 Jun 2009 at 21:25, Robert Duquette wrote:
>> Drawing:
>> http://www.britishwirewheel.com/faq.htm

--
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'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From cfchrist at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 25 05:03:02 2009
From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:03:02 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
Subject: [Spridgets] just bought another one?
Message-ID: <4279323.1245927782923.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

frank , at this rate you are going to personally own evry lbc produced in your lifetime!   now stop it!  yer making the rest of us look bad.  LOL!   
ok now time to get ready to drive "the little bus" for the summer special needs student program.  hmmm, i found the little bus is much faster than the big bus i drive!  LOL!  never give school busses to race car drivers for evaluation! *grin*

chuck
same darn sprite for a long time and a long time to come! 

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 25 05:52:46 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:52:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] MSD ignition or comparable with a 1275
Message-ID: <996312.24104.qm@web34408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi Edward,
Installation is easy, and it can be triggered from the points or a Pertronix
ignitor. I like to buy the model with the built in rev limiter, and the
vibration mounts can be picked up elsewhere. You must use a compatible coil.
Here is the product manual;
http://tinyurl.com/mfp5v4
John
Fogelsville, PA


--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] MSD ignition or comparable with a 1275
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:09 PM

Anyone have experience with an MSD ignition or something comparable with a
1275?  What is required for the install and tuning?
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From bpazur at excel.net  Thu Jun 25 06:42:11 2009
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:42:11 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] RA Crash
Message-ID: <200906251242.n5PCgBLt012262@green.excel.net>

Has anyone heard any details as to the cause of the EP Mazda RX-7 crash at
Turn 8? What a tragedy. It almost seems to me like he lost his brakes coming
out of Turn 7. I did a roundy-round on the grass a couple of times at Turn 8,
but I didn't get near the tire wall.

Bud Pazur

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 25 06:47:45 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] RA Crash
Message-ID: <256450.66879.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hello Bud,
Yes that was Tom Thrash, a well known and loved production racer, who died
during one of his qualifying sessions. All of the news is in this thread;
http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10623&start=0
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Bud Pazur <bpazur at excel.net> wrote:

From: Bud Pazur <bpazur at excel.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] RA Crash
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 8:42 AM

Has anyone heard any details as to the cause of the EP Mazda RX-7 crash at
Turn 8? What a tragedy. It almost seems to me like he lost his brakes coming
out of Turn 7. I did a roundy-round on the grass a couple of times at Turn 8,
but I didn't get near the tire wall.

Bud Pazur
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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Thu Jun 25 06:54:50 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:54:50 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] RA Crash
In-Reply-To: <256450.66879.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <256450.66879.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <EDD8C28D90E241DD8D4E093F4572DBF3@spider>

http://scca.com/newsarticle.aspx?hub=1&news=3668

----------------------------------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of fastvee
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:48 AM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Bud Pazur
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RA Crash

Hello Bud,
Yes that was Tom Thrash, a well known and loved production racer, who died
during one of his qualifying sessions. All of the news is in this thread;
http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10623&start=0
John
Fogelsville, PA

=============================================================
--- On Thu, 6/25/09, Bud Pazur <bpazur at excel.net> wrote:

From: Bud Pazur <bpazur at excel.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] RA Crash
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 8:42 AM

Has anyone heard any details as to the cause of the EP Mazda RX-7 crash at
Turn 8? What a tragedy. It almost seems to me like he lost his brakes coming
out of Turn 7. I did a roundy-round on the grass a couple of times at Turn
8,
but I didn't get near the tire wall.

Bud Pazur

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 25 08:12:34 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:12:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box base plate
Message-ID: <25C9E2B7EDA54EF68F80CA70E008A269@Home>

My BE spring box base plate is welded to the floor pan (actually, to a patch) which will be a pain to get out.  Frank says he has never seen one that was not welded to the floor pan.  

They do not look like they should be welded except maybe to prevent water intrusion into the spring box.  I have seen two pictures online in which they were not obviously welded and a statement that they are often welded by amateurs, making them difficult to remove.

Does anyone have one that is not welded?  That would seem to indicate that they were not welded at the factory.  

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From millerls at ado13.com  Thu Jun 25 09:36:10 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:36:10 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box base plate
In-Reply-To: <25C9E2B7EDA54EF68F80CA70E008A269@Home>
References: <25C9E2B7EDA54EF68F80CA70E008A269@Home>
Message-ID: <29692588-7458-4FDF-B282-A252981AFDFE@ado13.com>

All 3 of my Bugeyes are welded. I've owned one of them since 1966 and  
it's welded.

Larry Miller

On Jun 25, 2009, at 7:12 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:

> My BE spring box base plate is welded to the floor pan (actually, to  
> a patch) which will be a pain to get out.  Frank says he has never  
> seen one that was not welded to the floor pan.
>
> They do not look like they should be welded except maybe to prevent  
> water intrusion into the spring box.  I have seen two pictures  
> online in which they were not obviously welded and a statement that  
> they are often welded by amateurs, making them difficult to remove.
>
> Does anyone have one that is not welded?  That would seem to  
> indicate that they were not welded at the factory.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY
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From lmacy at phillymgclub.com  Thu Jun 25 10:21:12 2009
From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:21:12 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] wrenches
In-Reply-To: <b777e2be0906211542k48fd249ax4cd78350d0a9829a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1581C6A00827429C929E268C44356983@AndrewHP>
	<b777e2be0906211542k48fd249ax4cd78350d0a9829a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <651955E2-5A62-4B67-A68A-047E158AED12@phillymgclub.com>

The crankshaft bolt is 1- 15/16", but you'll never get a wrench on  
it ;-)

Larry

On Jun 21, 2009, at 6:42 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Andrew Payne  
> <andrewpayne at intrex.net>wrote:
> I have a quick top of the head question for you 1500cc Midgeteers out
> there. On
> most cars There are about 4 sizes of heads that most fasteners use.
>
> The most common bolts on a spridget are 7/16, 1/2, 9/16 and 5/8.  
> There are
> others but depending on what you are doing you probably won't  
> encounter them
> very often. If you have SAE gearwrenches up to 7/8 already you  
> probably
> don't need any more. Now if you just WANT some, buy whatever you  
> don't have!
> Spend some money on a set of Posidrive screwdrivers (or ratchet  
> bits) if you
> don't have any...
>
> -- 
> Kent
> 1960 Bugeye
> 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...
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Philadelphia MG Club

One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a  
parked car.

From trevor.jessie at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 12:09:20 2009
From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:09:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box base plate
In-Reply-To: <29692588-7458-4FDF-B282-A252981AFDFE@ado13.com>
References: <25C9E2B7EDA54EF68F80CA70E008A269@Home>
	<29692588-7458-4FDF-B282-A252981AFDFE@ado13.com>
Message-ID: <8c1781040906251109t46aff7d2t1f312f936834dd25@mail.gmail.com>

Mine were welded as well (three spot welds, and the lip of the spring box).

Trevor jessie

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Larry Miller<millerls at ado13.com> wrote:
> All 3 of my Bugeyes are welded. I've owned one of them since 1966 and it's
> welded.
>
> Larry Miller
>
> On Jun 25, 2009, at 7:12 AM, Michael Rowe wrote:
>
>> My BE spring box base plate is welded to the floor pan (actually, to a
>> patch) which will be a pain to get out.  Frank says he has never seen one
>> that was not welded to the floor pan.
>>
>> They do not look like they should be welded except maybe to prevent water
>> intrusion into the spring box.  I have seen two pictures online in which
>> they were not obviously welded and a statement that they are often welded
by
>> amateurs, making them difficult to remove.
>>
>> Does anyone have one that is not welded?  That would seem to indicate that
>> they were not welded at the factory.
>>
>> Michael Rowe
>> '74 Midget
>> '60 Sprite kit
>> Long Island, NY

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Thu Jun 25 12:42:18 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:42:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting ( to me ! ) - was spitting carbs...
Message-ID: <4A43629A.3661.206F94@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Bear in mind that the DPO's of The Beast used bits from a number of 
different years to put it together...

Recap... Timing set, valve lash set, carburretion set, idle great but 
running cool and spitting back at steady rpm's above ~2300...

Thanks to Bill M, who generously gave me a manifold vacuum take-off 
nut, I hooked up my vacuum guage.
First thing indicated was low vacuum at idle ~14", a possible 
indication of bad timing.
I moved the distributor until vacuum was at 20" and, presto, no more 
spitting back at 2500rpm (haven't taken it higher yet!)
Checking the timing mark (a groove across the outside *not* a dimple) 
on the crankshaft pulley with the indicator on the timing chest cover 
showed that the mark was now off by ~9 degree's!!

Either this was not the original pulley or something else is wrong!!  

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From smarc at smarc.net  Thu Jun 25 12:44:35 2009
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:44:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
Message-ID: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>

I want to change a slave cylinder - Can I clamp the hose to prevent 
losing all the fluid without damage to the hose?

-- 

Marc

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jun 25 13:09:01 2009
From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:09:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
In-Reply-To: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>
References: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <4A43CB4D.8070407@justbrits.com>

/LSJWgJ: Permission denied

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jun 25 15:23:27 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:23:27 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
In-Reply-To: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>
References: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <200906251223227.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Easier and safer for the line is to fill the MC completely, stretch a 
plastic bag over the mouth and tighten cap back on. You have now "put 
your thumb on the straw" and fluid wont leak.... much. The install 
slave, open bleeder and walk away whilst imbibing a beer. It'll be 
bled by the time your done with your second.

Peter C
=====

At 11:44 AM 6/25/2009, Marc wrote:
>I want to change a slave cylinder - Can I clamp the hose to prevent 
>losing all the fluid without damage to the hose?
>
>--
>
>Marc

From grday at btinternet.com  Thu Jun 25 13:25:44 2009
From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:25:44 +0100
Subject: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
References: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>
  <4A43CB4D.8070407@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <F5B4A65A10E34E8AAD1173317886D631@dell330>

WELL SAID!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] clamp on line?


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From smarc at smarc.net  Thu Jun 25 13:30:28 2009
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:30:28 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
In-Reply-To: <200906251223227.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>
	<200906251223227.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <4A43D054.6050607@smarc.net>

Thanks - One more question - whats the correct length of of the slave 
pushrod from center of the hole to the end of the rod?  Of interest for 
a '73...

Peter Caldwell wrote:
> Easier and safer for the line is to fill the MC completely, stretch a 
> plastic bag over the mouth and tighten cap back on. You have now "put 
> your thumb on the straw" and fluid wont leak.... much. The install 
> slave, open bleeder and walk away whilst imbibing a beer. It'll be 
> bled by the time your done with your second.
>
> Peter C
> =====
>
> At 11:44 AM 6/25/2009, Marc wrote:
>> I want to change a slave cylinder - Can I clamp the hose to prevent 
>> losing all the fluid without damage to the hose?
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Marc

-- 

Marc

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Thu Jun 25 13:32:19 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:32:19 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
In-Reply-To: <200906251223227.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>
	<200906251223227.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W465D6F8E0B6CAD16CA0194B8340@phx.gbl>

Does this same rule of thumb apply to everyone?  There are many strengths of
beer and people's capacities vary.  ie: for ED, would it still be 2?  ;)

> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:23:27 -0700
> To: smarc at smarc.net; spridgets at autox.team.net
> From: peter at nosimport.com
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
>
> Easier and safer for the line is to fill the MC completely, stretch a
> plastic bag over the mouth and tighten cap back on. You have now "put
> your thumb on the straw" and fluid wont leak.... much. The install
> slave, open bleeder and walk away whilst imbibing a beer. It'll be
> bled by the time your done with your second.
>
> Peter C
> =====
>
> At 11:44 AM 6/25/2009, Marc wrote:
> >I want to change a slave cylinder - Can I clamp the hose to prevent
> >losing all the fluid without damage to the hose?
> >
> >--
> >
> >Marc

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 13:46:08 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:46:08 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W465D6F8E0B6CAD16CA0194B8340@phx.gbl>
References: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>
	<200906251223227.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<BAY112-W465D6F8E0B6CAD16CA0194B8340@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520906251246lec626bapf0704d1d0476a360@mail.gmail.com>

> Does this same rule of thumb apply to everyone?  There are many strengths
of
> beer and people's capacities vary.  ie: for ED, would it still be 2?  ;)

And for David who doesn't drink beer, 2 beers would be a long long time.

From peter at nosimport.com  Thu Jun 25 17:09:09 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:09:09 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
In-Reply-To: <4A43D054.6050607@smarc.net>
References: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net>
	<200906251223227.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
	<4A43D054.6050607@smarc.net>
Message-ID: <200906251409805.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

2-11/16"

Peter

But, I will say that if you ever need to clamp a brake/clutch hose, 
the proper tool is 2 smooth bars that squeeze the hose. Failing that, 
I've used 2 smooth bolts squeezed with vise grips.

====

At 12:30 PM 6/25/2009, Marc wrote:
>Thanks - One more question - whats the correct length of of the 
>slave pushrod from center of the hole to the end of the rod?  Of 
>interest for a '73...
>
>Peter Caldwell wrote:
>>Easier and safer for the line is to fill the MC completely, stretch 
>>a plastic bag over the mouth and tighten cap back on. You have now 
>>"put your thumb on the straw" and fluid won't leak.... much. Then 
>>install slave, open bleeder and walk away whilst imbibing a beer. 
>>It'll be bled by the time you're done with your second.
>>
>>Peter C
>>=====
>>
>>At 11:44 AM 6/25/2009, Marc wrote:
>>>I want to change a slave cylinder - Can I clamp the hose to 
>>>prevent losing all the fluid without damage to the hose?
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>Marc
>
>--
>
>Marc
>
>
>
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From dwramsey at att.net  Thu Jun 25 16:40:28 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:40:28 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] wrenches
In-Reply-To: <651955E2-5A62-4B67-A68A-047E158AED12@phillymgclub.com>
Message-ID: <20090625224038.496CF187659@autox.team.net>

Actually an off set box end wrench fits fine.
		Crash


The crankshaft bolt is 1- 15/16", but you'll never get a wrench on  
it ;-)

Larry

From frog.aye at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 17:17:31 2009
From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:17:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Interesting ( to me ! ) - was spitting carbs...
In-Reply-To: <4A43629A.3661.206F94@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <4A43629A.3661.206F94@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <4333f8140906251617g5ade20cdr2594b3c87ba8834d@mail.gmail.com>

Could be time to replace the damper.  If the rubber is shot the pulley (with
the timing mark) can rotate with respect to the crank causing timing to
shift....  Isn't that so, Glen?
Or, perhaps it could visit the damper doctor (damperdoctor.com) for a
rebuild.
Hal

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Dave G. <kk7ss at verizon.net> wrote:

> Bear in mind that the DPO's of The Beast used bits from a number of
> different years to put it together...
>
> Recap... Timing set, valve lash set, carburretion set, idle great but
> running cool and spitting back at steady rpm's above ~2300...
>
> Thanks to Bill M, who generously gave me a manifold vacuum take-off
> nut, I hooked up my vacuum guage.
> First thing indicated was low vacuum at idle ~14", a possible
> indication of bad timing.
> I moved the distributor until vacuum was at 20" and, presto, no more
> spitting back at 2500rpm (haven't taken it higher yet!)
> Checking the timing mark (a groove across the outside *not* a dimple)
> on the crankshaft pulley with the indicator on the timing chest cover
> showed that the mark was now off by ~9 degree's!!
>
> Either this was not the original pulley or something else is wrong!!
>
> --

From soavero at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 25 17:28:06 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:28:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] wrenches
Message-ID: <791248.94156.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Only if it's 1 5/16", though.

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, David Ramsey
<dwramsey at att.net> wrote:
> Actually an off set box end wrench
> fits fine.
>
        Crash
> 
> 
> The crankshaft bolt is 1- 15/16", but you'll never get a
> wrench on  
> it ;-)
> 
> Larry
>
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From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Thu Jun 25 19:18:12 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:18:12 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] clamp on line?
References: <4A43C593.2090000@smarc.net> <4A43CB4D.8070407@justbrits.com>
	<F5B4A65A10E34E8AAD1173317886D631@dell330>
Message-ID: <3E7F917F42AF4F66B07A0186AC1AEB4D@Larry>

Amen!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GUY DAY" <grday at btinternet.com>
To: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>; "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] clamp on line?


WELL SAID!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed's Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: "Marc" <smarc at smarc.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] clamp on line?


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From mdrowe at optonline.net  Thu Jun 25 20:45:09 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:45:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box base plate
In-Reply-To: <8c1781040906251109t46aff7d2t1f312f936834dd25@mail.gmail.com>
References: <25C9E2B7EDA54EF68F80CA70E008A269@Home>
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Message-ID: <929BEF578A8E418089298D228C78880F@Home>

> Mine were welded as well (three spot welds, and the lip of the spring 
> box).

I'm not talking about spot welds, here.  Mine are fully welded on all three 
sides (a professional-looking job).  The only way they are going to come out 
easily is attached to that part of the floor pan, which is a really thick 
patch brazed to the original pan under a tacked in patch on the inside - 
three layers with 1/2" gaps between in places.  The patch job is actually 
sound and much stronger than the original.  I would have left it in if it 
didn't look so bad.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Thu Jun 25 22:10:42 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:10:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohish, Washington 7/18
In-Reply-To: <13196.28170.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <13196.28170.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <839984.76458.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

My address is below.  You can Google it to get directions.  Otherwise, it's pretty simple.  From I-5 either way (north or south), take the 128th St SE exit and go east.  It will turn into 132nd and then 134th, and eventually, Cathcart Way. Approximately 7 miles to Snohomish Cascade Dr.  You will see a waterfall on your right.  I live in "The Falls".  Turn right, go up the hill, pass the elementary school, and make the first left on 146th Pl SE, then an immediate right onto 65th Dr SE.  I am the second house on the right.  You won't miss it!  See you all on the 18th.  It's looking like a pretty good turnout.  Must be the BBQ....

Bill M, please bring your 1/2 in impact wrench and all those big sockets!!  I have two compressors, one floor jack, and 4 jack-stands.  Bring whatever you think you might need.

14706 65th Dr SE
Snohomish, WA 98296
Cell 425.591.8251

Edward




________________________________
From: Edward Perez <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: Spridgets at autox.team.net
Cc: jm.colvin at verizon.net; mshurtz at yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:27:45 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohish, Washington 7/18

So far we have the following cast of characters showing up...  We'll have lots of mechanical support here.  I hope to see more cars to work on so no one is left out of the fun.  Please let me know what you would like to get done on your vehicle and I'll make sure to note it.  We might need some specialty tools for some of the work and it's nice to know before hand.  Schuck's is just down the road, Napa is not too far away also.  Plenty of room in the driveway.  I hope I got everyone that has responded.  If I missed you, apologies!   Just shoot me an email confirming and I'll update this list.   Feel free to call me also.  Looking forward to meeting new people and seeing the others again.  

Bill M - lending a hand
Bill L and Son - lending a hand
Paul A - lending a hand (and eating BBQ Pork sandwiches)
Alan Inglis - Coming from Vancouver, BC - Bringing a Midget to work on 
Mike Burkhart - lending a hand
Phil Jones - Bringing his Sprite to work on and lending a hand
John Colvin - might stop by to observe (and eat BBQ)
Mike Shurtz - Tentative - might bring his '60 Sprite
Rich Ball - you comin' over and bringing your car??
Me - Install engine/Transmission, tuning, and alignment

Thanks, 

Edward Perez
14706 65th Dr SE
Snohomish, WA 98296
425.591.8251
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 26 06:24:24 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:24:24 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] if you are bored- Big Healey quiz
Message-ID: <BAY112-W365CFA56690B2A17FA22CB8350@phx.gbl>

I bumped into this:

http://healey-oregon.org/austin-healey-quiz



I didn't do too well at it.



Can anyone point me to a site where I can see some Big Healey colours ( by
name )?

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 07:31:48 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:31:48 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] if you are bored- Big Healey quiz
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W365CFA56690B2A17FA22CB8350@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY112-W365CFA56690B2A17FA22CB8350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520906260631o32716c40rc9c0a750c0b74a72@mail.gmail.com>

Speaking of the Big Healeys, I noted that the current issue of
Hemmings' Sport &Exotic Cars magazine has a picture of DMH standing
beside someone's Heavey Healey. The little blurb accompanying the
photo includes Frank's favorite DMH quote about the Sprite being his
favorite of the cars he built, "Because it provides so much fun for
the money."
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Fri Jun 26 07:46:56 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:46:56 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Latest News from Classic Motorsports
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References: <6fc4646599-robertduquette=sympatico.ca@mail.vresp.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W518ADD3BA4DA5BFDD2EE17B8350@phx.gbl>

I forward this clipped email in case anyone is interested.

RD


From: Classic_Motorsports at mail.vresp.com
Subject: Latest News from Classic Motorsports

In the Latest Issue

The September edition of Classic Motorsports is coming your way in mid-July.
Here are a few of the stories you can expect to see:

Project Cars: Our MG Midget project is back, and it's sporting a new engine.


If you (or your friends) would like to receive a free copy of this issue, just
make your request by July 17.

Classic Motorsports
P.O. Box 1568

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun 26 07:58:31 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:58:31 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spot weld cutter
Message-ID: <0D1C9C969E434BF680DCC19D34321C64@Home>

I bought a hole-cutter-type spot weld cutter from  Eastwood for $18, thinking that it might be better steel than the $4 Harbor Freight version.  It lasted a day.  I have since seen what appears to be the same cutter for $8 elsewhere.  

Are the carbide end-mill-type cutters better?  What brand and style gives the best service?

Michael Rowe

From daredelvis at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 08:54:37 2009
From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:54:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spot weld cutter
In-Reply-To: <0D1C9C969E434BF680DCC19D34321C64@Home>
References: <0D1C9C969E434BF680DCC19D34321C64@Home>
Message-ID: <531383560906260754h43065c26o5bb7af930333f0e1@mail.gmail.com>

In my experience a day was a pretty good lifespan.  I think I got mine
at a local PPG dealer,t I bought a set with one "bit" and several
(three?) blades. I am sure you are doing it, but having a good mark
with a center punch as a starting point tended to increase the
lifespan of the blade.

Brian

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Michael Rowe<mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:
> I bought a hole-cutter-type spot weld cutter from  Eastwood for $18,
thinking that it might be better steel than the $4 Harbor Freight version.  It
lasted a day.  I have since seen what appears to be the same cutter for $8
elsewhere.
>
> Are the carbide end-mill-type cutters better?  What brand and style gives
the best service?
>
> Michael Rowe
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From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Jun 26 10:50:22 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:50:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spot weld cutter
In-Reply-To: <0D1C9C969E434BF680DCC19D34321C64@Home>
Message-ID: <C66A4A5E.1F6CD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

Buy four of the HF units. The blades are reversible. I found them to be much
more economical than the Blair units which last a little longer, but cost
much more. 

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Fri Jun 26 12:16:24 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:16:24 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spot weld cutter
In-Reply-To: <C66A4A5E.1F6CD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C66A4A5E.1F6CD%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <B99901DF-6585-43F8-A478-88B2B4A299B0@comcast.net>

This is what the folks over on the Jag forums suggest, mine is headed  
this way..

http://www.htpweld.com/products/auto_body_tools/index.htm#HTP%20Spot%20Mill

Lester


On Jun 26, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Billy Zoom wrote:

> Buy four of the HF units. The blades are reversible. I found them to  
> be much
> more economical than the Blair units which last a little longer, but  
> cost
> much more.
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From froggi60 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 13:22:24 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:22:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Latest News from Classic Motorsports
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W518ADD3BA4DA5BFDD2EE17B8350@phx.gbl>
References: <6fc4646599-robertduquette=sympatico.ca@mail.vresp.com>
	<BAY112-W518ADD3BA4DA5BFDD2EE17B8350@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906261222n3bef1f24n71a6a28e896258a4@mail.gmail.com>

They'll get 'swamped'

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jun 26 15:23:11 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:23:11 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Cubby/glove box
Message-ID: <20090626122341.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

Anyone have for sale or at least a picture of the glove box door for 
an later 1500?

tx   Peter C

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 13:43:03 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:43:03 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Slave Cyl
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906261243t7f374e81vc83d80812056aece@mail.gmail.com>

Mark,

Regarding the slave cyl.   The top bolt has always been difficult to reach.


>From others who mentioned doing the same. .  I took the top bolt (after
getting if off) and cut the head of the bolt off.  I then screwed it back in
with Loctite so that it is now a stud.

This way, when I have to pull the slave cyl. . . I only have to deal with
the bottom bolt which is accessible.  . just slip the cyl over the top bolt
and tighten the bottom.

I have been using mine like this for a few thousand miles with no problems.


Just a thought regarding. . .

Kirk
59 Frog Aye

From bpazur at excel.net  Fri Jun 26 15:09:45 2009
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:09:45 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Continuing Spitting Woes
Message-ID: <000e01c9f6a2$90e2fe60$67e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

I thought I had got rid of my 1275 Bugeye spitting woes, but I haven't. After
checking everything (twice or three times), replacing spark plug wires,
getting a new battery, the condition persists.

I want to check for manifold/carb vac leaks. How do I use water (or whatever)
to do this? Thanks.

Bud Pazur

From peter at nosimport.com  Fri Jun 26 16:37:36 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:37:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Continuing Spitting Woes
In-Reply-To: <000e01c9f6a2$90e2fe60$67e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
References: <000e01c9f6a2$90e2fe60$67e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
Message-ID: <200906261337776.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 02:09 PM 6/26/2009, Bud Pazur wrote:
>I thought I had got rid of my 1275 Bugeye spitting woes, but I haven't. After
>checking everything (twice or three times), replacing spark plug wires,
>getting a new battery, the condition persists.
>
>I want to check for manifold/carb vac leaks. How do I use water (or whatever)
>to do this? Thanks.
>
>Bud Pazur
==================
One way is to close down the idle screws so the butterflies are 
closed, then push the car into Lake Michigan, and watch if there are 
any air bubbles forming at the throttle shafts or manifold gasket.


Another way, without using water, is to have the car idling and spray 
some aerosol something around the shafts and gaskets. Use something 
with the little hose bit so you can pinpoint the spray. If the spray 
you use is flammable, the idle will go up, if it is not flammable (or 
not inflammable) the idle will go down, as the stuff is drawn into 
the engine at that spot. Test to hear what the engine will do when it 
gets a taste of the juice by spraying directly into a carb.

This is a lot more enviro-friendly than the first water method.

Peter C. 

From jfishbein at snet.net  Fri Jun 26 14:52:26 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:52:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Shift boot and fittings
Message-ID: <628163.52112.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

If anyone has these parts, please let me know.

>From an early 70's car, I need a black vinyl boot, lever, rubber boot and metal retainer that secures the vinyl and rubber boots.


Thanks in advance,

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Fri Jun 26 14:55:48 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:55:48 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spot weld cutter
In-Reply-To: <B99901DF-6585-43F8-A478-88B2B4A299B0@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <C66A83E4.1F6DA%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

I think the Spitznagel/ Dent Fix stuff is the best, but it's expensive. How
many spot welds do you plan on doing? The Spitznagel stud gun is definitely
the best, but it's now up to about a $grand$.
> This is what the folks over on the Jag forums suggest, mine is headed
> this way..
> 
> http://www.htpweld.com/products/auto_body_tools/index.htm#HTP%20Spot%20Mill
> 
> Lester

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun 26 17:11:40 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:11:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Blue balls
Message-ID: <F5DA1F6B871048BFA0E02547F27E49B6@Home>

What is the function of the fuzzy blue balls I found with the acorns in my BE spring box?

Michael Rowe
'60 Sprite kit

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Fri Jun 26 17:31:34 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:31:34 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box base plate
In-Reply-To: <783796.15938.qm@web37607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <783796.15938.qm@web37607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <9CEB973C67A54E47BC42FDEE4376F4BE@Home>

All right all you nay sayers.  I cleaned out some panel sealer and found one 
side of one BE spring base plate over what appears to be the original floor 
pan, all unmolested.

It was not welded.

There is a small tack weld to the corner of the radius arm bracket only that 
may or may not have been original.  I don't think they are supposed to be 
completely welded, maybe not welded at all.

That said, when the sides of the spring box are gone, the only repair short 
of  complete replacement is to span what is left of the vertical parts with 
a thick plate and weld to it, which is what my PO had done.

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY 

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Fri Jun 26 18:09:59 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:09:59 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Blue balls
In-Reply-To: <F5DA1F6B871048BFA0E02547F27E49B6@Home>
References: <F5DA1F6B871048BFA0E02547F27E49B6@Home>
Message-ID: <4A4500E7.22096.5BEEA3@kk7ss.verizon.net>

Ooooooh! --  I am *SO* tempted!! <G>

On 26 Jun 2009 at 19:11, Michael Rowe wrote:

>> What is the function of the fuzzy blue balls I found with the acorns
>> in my BE spring box?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Fri Jun 26 19:20:30 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:20:30 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 2nd Annual EAA Air Show and Brit Car Show
Message-ID: <4F45A874795746CBB4684ADF0DA721B9@Larry>

Saturday, August 1st will be our 2nd annual Brit Car Show to go along with our
6th annual EAA Air Show.  We should meet at our local British Car Clubhouse at
County E and Sand Pit Road, Oshkosh, WI or at the Planeview Truck Stop at HWY
26 and 41, Oshkosh at 1:00 and go to the show from there.
http://www.airventure.org/

Once again, my brother and I will supply the beer, soda and BBQ.  Just bring a
dish to pass, a lawnchair, a camera, sunscreen, a hat and ear protection.  We
will be on the east flightline and directly below the return path for the
show.

Those who were here last year will tell you that this was a very good place to
watch the show and a good time.

Please RSVP by July 25 so we know how much food and drink to buy.  This is a
family-friendly event, so bring your kids, too.  All are welcome and we always
plan on extras and last minute guests.

Larry Daniels

ladaniels at sbcglobal.net

From pilotrob at msn.com  Sat Jun 27 07:55:23 2009
From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:55:23 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... 2nd Annual EAA Air Show
 and Brit Car Show
Message-ID: <BAY116-DAV4B97A4AD1F5B03B9D6910D4320@phx.gbl>

Spidgets concurrent with Oskosh!

Doesn't get much better than this. :):)

CB

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 27 08:36:21 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:36:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Top up or Down
Message-ID: <906430.32184.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Wed, 6/24/09, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:
I love driving my B Eye with the top up almost as much with the top down.
 
I've never driven mine with the top up, so really don't know what it's like. 
I'm sure it has its own charm, though.  I too have loved little cars since
being a kid.  Not sure what the trigger was, but I do remember my next door
neighbor's son having a square-body Sprite race car he took me for a few rides
in.  I remember it being very small, very fast, and very loud. 
 
Strangely enough, he did 1/8 mile oval track racing in it - not road racing. 
There was a class of "modifieds" for 4 cylinder cars they used to run Saturday
nights at the Nashville Speedway.  I guess this is what evolved into the class
for Pintos, Vegas, etc.  This was of course at the REAL Nashville Speedway,
not the big super speedway that now lives 30 miles east of the city.  And Yes,
Nashville was a stop on the NASCAR circuit way back then when it was actually
a racing series instead of a marketing tool for the 4-wheeled equivalent of
the WWF.
 
Oops, did I get a tad off-subject there?
 
David Booker
'71 Midget
Long Island
 

From breton48 at live.com  Sat Jun 27 08:57:29 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:57:29 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Japanese Weber carb sourcing
In-Reply-To: <BAY116-DAV4B97A4AD1F5B03B9D6910D4320@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY116-DAV4B97A4AD1F5B03B9D6910D4320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <COL107-DS12FA1B64E8C6A1D2C3BEF1AF320@phx.gbl>

Spridgeteers,

Where can I buy the Japanese copy of the Weber 40 DCOE?

JLC

From derf247 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 09:01:39 2009
From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:01:39 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Japanese Weber carb sourcing
In-Reply-To: <COL107-DS12FA1B64E8C6A1D2C3BEF1AF320@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY116-DAV4B97A4AD1F5B03B9D6910D4320@phx.gbl>
	<COL107-DS12FA1B64E8C6A1D2C3BEF1AF320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5f00d9910906270801o2202b3f1x3309ca8b4657bc3@mail.gmail.com>

I think Mikuni used to make them but I don't think they still do.
Why not just get a Weber?

From breton48 at live.com  Sat Jun 27 09:08:14 2009
From: breton48 at live.com (JLC)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:08:14 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Japanese Weber carb sourcing
In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910906270801o2202b3f1x3309ca8b4657bc3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY116-DAV4B97A4AD1F5B03B9D6910D4320@phx.gbl>	
	<COL107-DS12FA1B64E8C6A1D2C3BEF1AF320@phx.gbl>
	<5f00d9910906270801o2202b3f1x3309ca8b4657bc3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <COL107-DS797EED6ECC9417031B496AF320@phx.gbl>

Derf wrote:
I think Mikuni used to make them but I don't think they still do.
Why not just get a Weber?

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Because I was told the Mikunis are actually better than the Webers, but I am
not quite sure why - something to do with externally adjustable floats,
among other things? I assume they would also be cheaper than the Webers?
Something to check, anyways.

JLC

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Jun 27 09:46:51 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:46:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Blue balls
In-Reply-To: <4A4500E7.22096.5BEEA3@kk7ss.verizon.net>
References: <F5DA1F6B871048BFA0E02547F27E49B6@Home>
	<4A4500E7.22096.5BEEA3@kk7ss.verizon.net>
Message-ID: <C8DD1319-1E2B-4631-8B13-10B965677798@comcast.net>

Former high school owner?

Le.. uhhh... anon..


On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:09 PM, Dave G. wrote:

> Ooooooh! --  I am *SO* tempted!! <G>
>
> On 26 Jun 2009 at 19:11, Michael Rowe wrote:
>
>>> What is the function of the fuzzy blue balls I found with the acorns
>>> in my BE spring box?
>
>
> --
> Dave G.   KK7SS
> '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA
>
> If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still
> alive !!
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sat Jun 27 09:49:03 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:49:03 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Blue balls
In-Reply-To: <F5DA1F6B871048BFA0E02547F27E49B6@Home>
References: <F5DA1F6B871048BFA0E02547F27E49B6@Home>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP22D5DEDC82FD0A303162ECB8320@phx.gbl>

Message from your wife that you're spending too much time with the car?

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Rowe

What is the function of the fuzzy blue balls I found with the acorns in my
BE spring box?

Michael Rowe
'60 Sprite kit

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sat Jun 27 12:18:07 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:18:07 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] orris Minor value
Message-ID: <10E4EF7B411044D5B576BECEAE434C73@CatheyBPC>

What is a fair value for a 67 Morriss Minor convertible project?  Original
1098 Motor, rear floors have been replaced other than that no rust.  Spare
doors and decklid included along with some various spares.  Rest of the car
will have to be rebuilt.

Leo

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Sat Jun 27 12:29:24 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:29:24 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] orris Minor value
In-Reply-To: <10E4EF7B411044D5B576BECEAE434C73@CatheyBPC>
References: <10E4EF7B411044D5B576BECEAE434C73@CatheyBPC>
Message-ID: <4A466504.8060105@frontiernet.net>

$50. Where can I pick it up?

Kate


ldsp wrote:
> What is a fair value for a 67 Morriss Minor convertible project?  Original
> 1098 Motor, rear floors have been replaced other than that no rust.  Spare
> doors and decklid included along with some various spares.  Rest of the car
> will have to be rebuilt.
>
> Leo
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Sat Jun 27 13:03:01 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:03:01 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box base plate
In-Reply-To: <9CEB973C67A54E47BC42FDEE4376F4BE@Home>
References: <783796.15938.qm@web37607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<9CEB973C67A54E47BC42FDEE4376F4BE@Home>
Message-ID: <A52A3333-5AAD-463B-B911-2D2A38C034F7@comcast.net>

Ok, for a Bugeye, the spring bolts through the bottom of this plate  
right?  How is the baseplate attached enough to hold the spring?

Lester


On Jun 26, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Michael Rowe wrote:

> All right all you nay sayers.  I cleaned out some panel sealer and  
> found one side of one BE spring base plate over what appears to be  
> the original floor pan, all unmolested.
>
> It was not welded.
>
> There is a small tack weld to the corner of the radius arm bracket  
> only that may or may not have been original.  I don't think they are  
> supposed to be completely welded, maybe not welded at all.
>
> That said, when the sides of the spring box are gone, the only  
> repair short of  complete replacement is to span what is left of the  
> vertical parts with a thick plate and weld to it, which is what my  
> PO had done.
>
> Michael Rowe
> '74 Midget
> '60 Sprite kit
> Long Island, NY _______________________________________________
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From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Sat Jun 27 13:43:37 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:43:37 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] orris Minor value
In-Reply-To: <4A466504.8060105@frontiernet.net>
References: <10E4EF7B411044D5B576BECEAE434C73@CatheyBPC>
	<4A466504.8060105@frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <44A852EA6DB04E729893029DC7009998@CatheyBPC>

ROFL.... In Nigeria... it is on the bank of a river there and is awaiting 
somone to pick it up>:

Leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathryn Bales" <kgb at frontiernet.net>
Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] orris Minor value


> $50. Where can I pick it up?
>
> Kate
>
>
> ldsp wrote:
>> What is a fair value for a 67 Morriss Minor convertible project? 
>> Original
>> 1098 Motor, rear floors have been replaced other than that no rust. 
>> Spare
>> doors and decklid included along with some various spares.  Rest of the 
>> car
>> will have to be rebuilt.
>>
>> Leo
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From millerls at ado13.com  Sat Jun 27 16:01:57 2009
From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:01:57 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Crossflow Head Bugeye
In-Reply-To: <44A852EA6DB04E729893029DC7009998@CatheyBPC>
References: <10E4EF7B411044D5B576BECEAE434C73@CatheyBPC>
	<4A466504.8060105@frontiernet.net>
	<44A852EA6DB04E729893029DC7009998@CatheyBPC>
Message-ID: <906474BA-EC8C-4397-BA61-77FE9E2FEC3F@ado13.com>

Finally got the clutch clutching and the brakes braking on BUGIIIS.  
Took it out for a short test and I must say it is the fastest and the  
quickest non-race prepped Bugeye I have ever driven. It winds like  
crazy.


Larry Miller

From bpazur at excel.net  Sat Jun 27 17:31:06 2009
From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:31:06 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Continuing Spitting Woes
References: <000e01c9f6a2$90e2fe60$67e767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>
	<200906261337776.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <001c01c9f77f$74e260b0$4ee767d1@BUDA81RB4QWBBH>

Peter -

Thanks much.I will forgo the Lake Michigan test, thank you anyway.

Bud


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Caldwell" <peter at nosimport.com>
To: "Bud Pazur" <bpazur at excel.net>; "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Continuing Spitting Woes


> At 02:09 PM 6/26/2009, Bud Pazur wrote:
> >I thought I had got rid of my 1275 Bugeye spitting woes, but I haven't.
After
> >checking everything (twice or three times), replacing spark plug wires,
> >getting a new battery, the condition persists.
> >
> >I want to check for manifold/carb vac leaks. How do I use water (or
whatever)
> >to do this? Thanks.
> >
> >Bud Pazur
> ==================
> One way is to close down the idle screws so the butterflies are
> closed, then push the car into Lake Michigan, and watch if there are
> any air bubbles forming at the throttle shafts or manifold gasket.
>
>
> Another way, without using water, is to have the car idling and spray
> some aerosol something around the shafts and gaskets. Use something
> with the little hose bit so you can pinpoint the spray. If the spray
> you use is flammable, the idle will go up, if it is not flammable (or
> not inflammable) the idle will go down, as the stuff is drawn into
> the engine at that spot. Test to hear what the engine will do when it
> gets a taste of the juice by spraying directly into a carb.
>
> This is a lot more enviro-friendly than the first water method.
>
> Peter C.

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 27 16:58:39 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:58:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] orris Minor value
In-Reply-To: <10E4EF7B411044D5B576BECEAE434C73@CatheyBPC>
References: <10E4EF7B411044D5B576BECEAE434C73@CatheyBPC>
Message-ID: <4A46A41F.1000403@comcast.net>

ldsp wrote:
> What is a fair value for a 67 Morriss Minor convertible project?  
My son just paid
$600 for a 67 Morris Traveler (woody) no rust, some wood needs to be 
replaced and the engine was in the back.
It's a major project and he says he paid a fair price for it.
Sure $50 is better, like the rust free tub I just bought for $50 :)


-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sat Jun 27 17:00:15 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 19:00:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 1955 Morris Traveler
Message-ID: <EBFA81BDB3134D2EA77285D9D4F50495@Home>

My mother-in-law sent this article.  Might be worth a trip to Hawaii just to see it.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009906200304

Michael Rowe
'74 Midget
'60 Sprite kit
Long Island, NY

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sat Jun 27 18:55:17 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 20:55:17 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Friends made through Sprite
Message-ID: <4A46BF75.3080805@comcast.net>

I was just thinking about all the friends I have made thanks to these 
dumb little cars over the years.
When I was 17 back in 1972, I pulled into a 7-11 next to a yellow 
Sprite, I had a green Sprite, I met Elliott, he was older than me, 
married with 3 kids and a house.
He introduced me to Frank Russo, again, even older than Elliott with a 
couple of kids. Frank had a Sprite, a white 66.
So here we are, with a 66, a 67, and a 68 Sprite all hanging out and 
trading storys and parts back in 1972.
I watched Elliott's 3 kids grow up, his youngest is now forty something, 
his grand kids are getting married, and I went to his wife's funeral.
We are still friends, he stops over every couple of weeks.
Frank, who has a couple of Sprites and a 59 Bentley along with a 60 
Princess limo, was the limo driver for my son when he got married.
All of the wedding party drove Sprites that day while the bride and 
groom rode in a Bentley driven by my friend Frank, another Sprite owner.
Today I am working on his Midget project, it needed some fender work and 
a new paint job.
Then came Rick Moses and the Sprite meets where I met a bunch more 
people with the same love of some dumb little cars.
Rick from PA, Alan and Joe from Rhode Island, Steve from Mass, and a few 
others from Maryland, Virgina, PA, and Ohio.
We often called each other and talked for hours in the days before the 
internet and Email.
And then came the internet where I met people from Wisconsin, Illinois, 
California, Florida, Nebraska, Colorado, Kansas, and a few other states.
And I am in constant touch with all of them and have traveled to many 
states to visit with them as they have traveled to NJ to see me.
So today Elliott and Frank stopped by and those 2 have not seen each 
other in some time, all 3 of us a bit older then we were in 72 but all 
with the same story.
Elliott sold his Sprite to my wife's girlfriend, Frank and I still have 
Sprites all these years later and Elliott is going to start looking for 
another as he always said he missed that car.

We were not college room mates, nor army buddies, we were just a couple 
of people in town with dumb little cars and a life long relationship 
thanks to those cars.
Do you think a couple of guys parking next to each other in Camrys will 
be hanging out 40 years later?

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 22:20:10 2009
From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:20:10 -0600
Subject: [Spridgets] Friends made through Sprite
In-Reply-To: <4A46BF75.3080805@comcast.net>
References: <4A46BF75.3080805@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <b777e2be0906272120w432d2958p59f71b0e7ebd4f03@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:
Do you think a couple of guys parking next to each other in Camrys will be
hanging out 40 years later?

One of my best friends (now) was driving along in a new 1971 Midget when I
pulled alongside of him. He took off as if to rally so I followed him in my
67 Sprite. Turns out he was just headed home. We talked spridgets for quite
a while. Some time later he told me that he was ready to kick my ass that
night because he thought that I was screwing with him at first!!! He was a
black belt karate student and had a pair of numchucks in his belt...

That was 1971 and we are still best friends! We've been through a lot
together over the years and it is all because of these little cars.

-- 
Kent
1960 Bugeye
1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard...

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Sun Jun 28 08:35:27 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:35:27 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Blue balls
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP22D5DEDC82FD0A303162ECB8320@phx.gbl>
References: <F5DA1F6B871048BFA0E02547F27E49B6@Home>
	<BLU0-SMTP22D5DEDC82FD0A303162ECB8320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <C394D963B10B4065996137CA13091220@Home>

I confess that I am disappointed in the list.  I gave you the biggest 
opening I have seen since I joined, and almost no one responded.  Kudos to 
Robert Duquette for the best response.

Go ahead.  Stick you heads back in your engine bays.

Michael Rowe
Blue Ball Special
Long Island, NY 

From tequila.brad at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 08:45:03 2009
From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:45:03 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Blue balls
In-Reply-To: <C394D963B10B4065996137CA13091220@Home>
References: <F5DA1F6B871048BFA0E02547F27E49B6@Home>
	<BLU0-SMTP22D5DEDC82FD0A303162ECB8320@phx.gbl>
	<C394D963B10B4065996137CA13091220@Home>
Message-ID: <e98d88090906280745p327bd4bexaa23885855e3f233@mail.gmail.com>

It's a "dirty job" but at least Robert was there to take care if it.
Speaking of Dirty Jobs, I see your latest one was the worst!!
Having to get on TV, telling everyone how great a Ford it, that is a REAL
Dirty Job!!!

LOL

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe at optonline.net> wrote:

> I confess that I am disappointed in the list.  I gave you the biggest
> opening I have seen since I joined, and almost no one responded.  Kudos to
> Robert Duquette for the best response.
>
> Go ahead.  Stick you heads back in your engine bays.
>
> Michael Rowe
> Blue Ball Special
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From bkitterer at mac.com  Sun Jun 28 09:32:40 2009
From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:32:40 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [AHCSD-Discuss] Sprite Parts for Sale
References: <h25nd5+tp2b@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <C747939F-8EA1-4596-A57A-093D0C0346F3@mac.com>

Just forwarding the following.

NFI

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

Begin forwarded message:
>
> I have a large inventory of 65-69 Spridget parts for sale: Bumpers  
> (several front/rear), bumperettes, grille, engine compartment pieces  
> (many), timing gears, metal fans (3), fan pulleys, valve cover,  
> rocker arm assembly, air filter assemblies (several), window washer  
> pump & reservoirs, heater cores & boxes, lots of chrome interior  
> trim, some gauges, steering wheel, two restored dashboards with burl  
> trim (worth $400 each), console (restored with burl), seat frames, 2- 
> point seat belts (several), good windscreen & frame, chrome cockpit  
> trim, body trim, transmissions (2), doors (4), red door panels, door  
> openers (several), window cranks (several), door windows (several),  
> regulators, vent windows, hood, trunk decks (2), trunk locks (3-4),  
> body tub (rust-free 1965), shock absorbers (2 sets, front & rear),  
> gas filler parts, brand new top, various new parts & rebuild kits,  
> more, more, MORE. Most chrome pieces in very good condition.  
> Multiples of many parts.
>
> Will sell all the above for $2,250 or by the part.
>
> Also, much smaller amount of MGB parts.
>
> Located in Reno, NV. Will spread out parts for viewing with advance  
> notice. Very limited email response as parts are NOT all inventoried  
> and I have many crates full of parts. Local pick-up only - no  
> packaging & shipping.
>
> barry at barrys-classic-cars.com
> Barry Barnes (775) 853-1185 - Leave Message

From jfishbein at snet.net  Sun Jun 28 11:18:03 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Friends made through Sprite
Message-ID: <707179.5738.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Very nice story, Frank.

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Sat, 6/27/09, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Frank <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Friends made through Sprite
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2009, 8:55 PM

I was just thinking about all the friends I have made thanks to these dumb little cars over the years.

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 11:31:51 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:31:51 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A. - I'd like to talk with you
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906281031lb26f16cxfbe434d364b9d47f@mail.gmail.com>

Paul A. -

BillM and I just pulled the engine & tranny again from my Midget so we could
put the 4 speed back in.
My 5 speed Datsun tranny needs work.
If you get & read this, please email or call me.

Rick (jonesing for that 5th gear) Bastedo
425-442-9925

From jfishbein at snet.net  Sun Jun 28 11:32:49 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 10:32:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
Message-ID: <333540.13365.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Some listers have had god luck with this supplier but I thought I would post my experience with them on the purchase of an exhaust system.

I finally got my Maniflow exhaust purchase resolved with APT.

I received a partial refund after return of the system to them.

My problem was not that Maniflow changed the entire system but that APT didn't bother to inform me of the changes. (Their website pictures an entirely different system from what they are supplying.) The resonator was substantially increased in size (it's the largest freakin' muffler I've even seen for a Spridget) and the pipe to the front is now configured to go over, rather than under, the rear axle.

This was my second purchase from them and what surprised me was their attitude that it didn't seem to matter to them that the pic on their website wasn't updated and therefore no longer representative of the system and that they didn't mention these changes when I called to order it.

They were argumentative right from the get-go. Something I haven't even encountered at the large suppliers.

My recommendation is what I am going to do if I ever order from them again: Ask A LOT OF QUESTIONS and don't rely on anything posted to their website.

YMMV

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 11:59:33 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:59:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Blue balls
In-Reply-To: <e98d88090906280745p327bd4bexaa23885855e3f233@mail.gmail.com>
References: <F5DA1F6B871048BFA0E02547F27E49B6@Home>
	<BLU0-SMTP22D5DEDC82FD0A303162ECB8320@phx.gbl>
	<C394D963B10B4065996137CA13091220@Home>
	<e98d88090906280745p327bd4bexaa23885855e3f233@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906281059n5e604169t6d371afa79ba395f@mail.gmail.com>

>> I confess that I am disappointed in the list.  I gave you the biggest
>> opening I have seen since I joined, and almost no one responded.

That stuff really only works during the winter. Weather has been too
good around here to waste it on someone feeling sorry for himself.

Yesterday saw new points and plugs installed on the Bugeye, along with
new rear wheel bearings (Thank you, Peter) and seals and a 3.9 diff to
try to lose the highway whine.

Today has so far seen a re-charge of the AC on Trish's Miata as well
as installation of her new/used Nardi steering wheel.

I suppose it is time to eat some lunch, then mow the lawn and figure
out what is next on my list...
David L

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 12:09:36 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:09:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Leaks
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906281109r46ffc2f1xc67768cc37dcc612@mail.gmail.com>

My way might not be the best, but I shoot carb cleaner into suspect areas.
If the engine RPM's go on the rise then I have found the leak.


Kirk
59 Frog

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 12:15:35 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:15:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Japanese OER
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906281115jef92afds2601c218cfadadd0@mail.gmail.com>

JLC,


I put one on my car and I love it.  Mine is a copy of the 45.

They appear to be as well built if not better than the Weber, accept all the
Weber jets and emulsion tubes, look like a Weber but also have an adjustment
for accel pump action as well as foat bowl height.

I have had for about 3 years and it has always turned in positive no hassle
performance..

Check with this guys in Gilroy Ca. . . where mine came from.

http://www.piercemanifolds.com/

Kirk
1275 Frog with OER

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 12:21:37 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:21:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OER
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906281121n4ee0b9fcu98aa4a2b51928ba4@mail.gmail.com>

(About the same price as a Weber, almost to the dollar as I recall).

Pierce will pre set the carb up for your engine, 948 - 1275, stock or
modified.  You give them all the details on what you are running, and they
will match it to your engine.

Mine was super easy to install and dial in (checking idle screws).  It has
been the biggest no hassle carb since owning my Bugeye and a 1960 MGA.

Kirk

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 12:48:31 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:48:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Franks Story
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906281148me3867b5mf4de9d1d48a2beff@mail.gmail.com>

Frank,


Super cool story. .  and the Camry ending was perfect!


Kirk

From rbastedo at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 15:14:02 2009
From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:14:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 25, Issue 53
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1246212001.20093.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.11.1246212001.20093.spridgets@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <fbc9308f0906281414y5b176e15t7525695b0349ead2@mail.gmail.com>

BillM and I pulled my Midgets motor & tranny yesterday for the second time
in two weeks.
This time we put the 4 speed back in so I'd have a daily driver.
I love driving the MK2 Sprite, in the sun with the top off.
On the freeway in the rain - no thanks.

Here's a tip for a rattling shifter - when the little bushes that go in
there are worn out.
Take a piece of vinyl tubing and cut and trim it until it fits where the
bushes used to be.
My shifter is now nice and tight and makes no more noise.
Without a bushing in there the rattling can drive you crazy!

Now... I just busted one of the pulley mounts on the deck of my riding mower
so I have to go back outside and remove that and then start looking for a
way to repair it. Yes - it's summer and there's a lot of stuff to do...

Rick (yard aint done yet) Bastedo


>> From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blue balls
>> To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Message-ID:
       <402188520906281059n5e604169t6d371afa79ba395f at mail.gmail.com>> >
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

>> >> I confess that I am disappointed in the list.  I gave you the biggest
>> >> opening I have seen since I joined, and almost no one responded.

>> That stuff really only works during the winter. Weather has been too
>> good around here to waste it on someone feeling sorry for himself.

>> Yesterday saw new points and plugs installed on the Bugeye, along with
>> new rear wheel bearings (Thank you, Peter) and seals and a 3.9 diff to
>> try to lose the highway whine.

>> Today has so far seen a re-charge of the AC on Trish's Miata as well
>> as installation of her new/used Nardi steering wheel.

>> I suppose it is time to eat some lunch, then mow the lawn and figure
>> out what is next on my list...
>> David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Sun Jun 28 17:05:21 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:05:21 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
In-Reply-To: <333540.13365.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <333540.13365.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP29327CF5DD9B06531C0B9AB8330@phx.gbl>

Wow!  I'm surprised!  I've returned and exchanged parts with them and
thought that David went more than the extra mile to make both his mistakes
and mine get resolved. 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Fishbein
Sent: June 28, 2009 1:33 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts

Some listers have had god luck with this supplier but I thought I would post
my experience with them on the purchase of an exhaust system.

I finally got my Maniflow exhaust purchase resolved with APT.

I received a partial refund after return of the system to them.

My problem was not that Maniflow changed the entire system but that APT
didn't bother to inform me of the changes. (Their website pictures an
entirely different system from what they are supplying.) The resonator was
substantially increased in size (it's the largest freakin' muffler I've even
seen for a Spridget) and the pipe to the front is now configured to go over,
rather than under, the rear axle.

This was my second purchase from them and what surprised me was their
attitude that it didn't seem to matter to them that the pic on their website
wasn't updated and therefore no longer representative of the system and that
they didn't mention these changes when I called to order it.

They were argumentative right from the get-go. Something I haven't even
encountered at the large suppliers.

My recommendation is what I am going to do if I ever order from them again:
Ask A LOT OF QUESTIONS and don't rely on anything posted to their website.

YMMV

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT
You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca

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From jfishbein at snet.net  Sun Jun 28 17:59:22 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:59:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
Message-ID: <726204.66340.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

I dealt with a fellow by the name of Phil. For what it's worth, Phil told me
that David would call me to discuss the return, but David never did. I finally
just sent it back on my own.
 
Like I said, Some of you have had better dealings than my experience. I just
thought my experience was worth sharing, especially the fact that they
apparently don't have accurate photos on their website of their parts.
 
Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT

--- On Sun, 6/28/09, Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:


From: Robert Duquette <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
To: "'Spridgets List'" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 7:05 PM


Wow!  I'm surprised!  I've returned and exchanged parts with them and
thought that David went more than the extra mile to make both his mistakes
and mine get resolved.

From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 28 18:22:29 2009
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:22:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No Brake pressure
Message-ID: <644049.24972.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I just put disks on the front of my 62, changed spindles, etc. It looked like everything was coming together, but I couldn't get the system to stay up...I could pumpt it up and get pedal pressure, but it wouldn't stay. My master cylinder has a habit of chewing up seals after about 2 years - there's some pitting. So I put a new kit in it. Now I can't get any pressure. I can remove a line at the MC and squirt fluid out. But using a vacuum pump at each wheel only gets a dribble.

And I tried pressuring the system from the filler neck on the reservoir, but I still just get a dribble.

did I assemble the plungers wrong? I thought if I got it squirting out the external line connections I probably had it together right.

Any ideas?

Joe

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 28 19:12:37 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:12:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] No Brake pressure
In-Reply-To: <644049.24972.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <644049.24972.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A481505.2050808@comcast.net>

Joe Lansing wrote:
> I just put disks on the front of my 62, 

Are the bleeder nipples in the correct holes on the calipers?
I don't have one in front of me but there is a plug and a bleeder, if 
you mix them up, no squirt.
How are the rubber brake hoses? If they are 10 years old or older, cut 
them and replace them.
They tend to collapse in time and could burst when you hit the brakes.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 28 19:14:40 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:14:40 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Race guys, Cobra Classic seat
Message-ID: <4A481580.40004@comcast.net>

A friend of my son has a single Cobra Classic racing seat he wants to sell.
Like new, he put it in his Mini until he found real seats.
Again, only ONE, he is asking $150 + shipping from NJ or you can come 
pick it up.
Black/black

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Sun Jun 28 19:21:00 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:21:00 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
Message-ID: <4A4816FC.1000208@comcast.net>

Not a Sprite but a VW Jetta.
Not try to follow this.......
2003 Jetta, 60,000 miles, the clutch was acting up so the kid put a new 
slave cylinder on it.
No change.
It works fine up to 3000 rpms then the clutch slips to where the car 
will not move and there is no hydralic pressure on the peddal.
Slow down the revs and the pressure comes back, the car drives fine, 
shifts fine until you hit 3000 rpms again and I watched as the clutch 
pedal went to the floor just as this happened. It went to the floor all 
by itself.
Hitler's revenge?
The kid, my son, all his VW buddies, and myself are totally confused.
There was no slipping of the clutch at slow speeds, but what the hell 
makes the pressure go away, or should I say what makes the pedal go down 
all by itself?
It's so bad the car can not be driven unless you you shift at 2900 rpms 
and it will go thru all 5 gears but rev it up and zoom zoom whizzzzzzzzzz.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Sun Jun 28 19:30:36 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:30:36 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
In-Reply-To: <4A4816FC.1000208@comcast.net>
References: <4A4816FC.1000208@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4A47B6CC.13825.B1CF91@kk7ss.verizon.net>

SWAG -- vacuum unit/lines??

On 28 Jun 2009 at 21:21, Frank wrote:

>>  or should I say what makes the pedal go down 
>> all by itself?


--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun 28 19:39:07 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:39:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Weird clutch issue
Message-ID: <7A7F3329AFDA494EAF34A58E6E9D31CC@spider>

Power brakes take assist from engine vacuum? Engine rpms affect this vacuum?

It there a leak in a diaphragm somewhere?
...bill in oregon
============================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:21 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue

Not a Sprite but a VW Jetta.
Not try to follow this.......
2003 Jetta, 60,000 miles, the clutch was acting up so the kid put a new 
slave cylinder on it.
No change.
It works fine up to 3000 rpms then the clutch slips to where the car 
will not move and there is no hydralic pressure on the peddal.
Slow down the revs and the pressure comes back, the car drives fine, 
shifts fine until you hit 3000 rpms again and I watched as the clutch 
pedal went to the floor just as this happened. It went to the floor all 
by itself.
Hitler's revenge?
The kid, my son, all his VW buddies, and myself are totally confused.
There was no slipping of the clutch at slow speeds, but what the hell 
makes the pressure go away, or should I say what makes the pedal go down 
all by itself?
It's so bad the car can not be driven unless you you shift at 2900 rpms 
and it will go thru all 5 gears but rev it up and zoom zoom whizzzzzzzzzz.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
_______________________________________________

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Sun Jun 28 19:43:06 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:43:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Weird clutch issue
In-Reply-To: <7A7F3329AFDA494EAF34A58E6E9D31CC@spider>
References: <7A7F3329AFDA494EAF34A58E6E9D31CC@spider>
Message-ID: <4F4E9A9100EF44DAA87676A7E342D782@spider>

I meant clutch system, not brakes. ...

==================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
corvallis at peoplepc.com
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 6:39 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Weird clutch issue

Power brakes take assist from engine vacuum? Engine rpms affect this vacuum?

It there a leak in a diaphragm somewhere?
...bill in oregon
============================================

From bmwwxman at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 21:22:25 2009
From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:22:25 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
In-Reply-To: <4A4816FC.1000208@comcast.net>
References: <4A4816FC.1000208@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43840a7e0906282022o4a562d8dl7a7c65b2ff7a0823@mail.gmail.com>

Does the clutch work with a vacuum servo?

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> Not a Sprite but a VW Jetta.
> Not try to follow this.......
> 2003 Jetta, 60,000 miles, the clutch was acting up so the kid put a new
> slave cylinder on it.
> No change.
> It works fine up to 3000 rpms then the clutch slips to where the car will
> not move and there is no hydralic pressure on the peddal.
> Slow down the revs and the pressure comes back, the car drives fine, shifts
> fine until you hit 3000 rpms again and I watched as the clutch pedal went
to
> the floor just as this happened. It went to the floor all by itself.
> Hitler's revenge?
> The kid, my son, all his VW buddies, and myself are totally confused.
> There was no slipping of the clutch at slow speeds, but what the hell makes
> the pressure go away, or should I say what makes the pedal go down all by
> itself?
> It's so bad the car can not be driven unless you you shift at 2900 rpms and
> it will go thru all 5 gears but rev it up and zoom zoom whizzzzzzzzzz.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From rrengineer at dslextreme.com  Sun Jun 28 21:33:07 2009
From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:33:07 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] APT Maniflow Exhausts
In-Reply-To: <726204.66340.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <726204.66340.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <d49b03130906282033wc45df5dk99c11b88a60d95c0@mail.gmail.com>

Living only five minutes from APT has it's advantages.  David or Phil
usually just takes me back into the warehouse to look at the stuff before I
buy it.  You don't have as many returns that way.  Jay, next time email me
to go look for you.  I'll give an honest report.  Might save you some grief.
Mike MacLean

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> I dealt with a fellow by the name of Phil. For what it's worth, Phil told
> me
> that David would call me to discuss the return, but David never did. I
> finally
> just sent it back on my own.
>
> Like I said, Some of you have had better dealings than my experience. I
> just
> thought my experience was worth sharing, especially the fact that they
> apparently don't have accurate photos on their website of their parts.
>
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT

From sma at intech.com  Mon Jun 29 07:27:04 2009
From: sma at intech.com (Stephen Aldous)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:27:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 77 Midget Handbrake cable
Message-ID: <1D7B98813F74CE4E99A8D6B3E1DC26BA21D538@Server1.intech.com>

Gentlemen,

I decided to replace my handbrake cable this weekend. The cable was ordered
and had arrived on Wednesday. Garage was clean and ready for me to do the
repair. I waited till Sunday to start because this was going to be an easy
fix. Well all plans are doomed to fail!  I jacked the backend up, took off the
wheels and proceeded to pull the cotter pins that hold the retaining pins of
the cable to the rear brakes. That is as far as I got!  The retaining pins
will not come out. I heated them, banged them, cursed at them to no avail!
The only thing I did not do was cut them off. Should I just cut them or is
there some magical way that they are to be removed?

By the way, I located the other end of the cable  (handbrake lever end) inside
the tunnel. Is there an easy way to remove this end or am I going to have to
become a contortionist in order to snake a wrench in the tunnel to remove the
cable??

Thanks for any help,
Steve Aldous

From fastvee at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 08:48:36 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 07:48:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] OER
Message-ID: <776557.81277.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Sun, 6/28/09, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:
Pierce will pre set the carb up for your engine, 948 - 1275, stock or
modified.  You give them all the details on what you are running, and they
will match it to your engine.


FYI, this is a service that shouldn't be underestimated!  Last week I bought a
NIB 45DCOE for the attractive price of $200, but to purchase parts to change
chokes and jetting to my specs will cost well over $200.
John
Fogelsville, PA

From cclabaw at juno.com  Mon Jun 29 09:29:42 2009
From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:29:42 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] 77 Midget Handbrake cable
Message-ID: <20090629.082942.22192.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>

Steve -

Did you release the handbrake?  Pins should push out easily.  You might need a
drift pin to drive them out, but mine were loose in the cable ends.

To replace the cable, I took the handbrake assy off the tunnel, fitted the new
cable, wrapped it in newspaper to keep the grunge off, and threaded it in from
the tunnel hole.  Worked a treat.

Clay L.
'67 Sprite

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Stephen Aldous" <sma at intech.com>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] 77 Midget Handbrake cable
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:27:04 -0400

Gentlemen,

I decided to replace my handbrake cable this weekend. The cable was ordered
and had arrived on Wednesday. Garage was clean and ready for me to do the
repair. I waited till Sunday to start because this was going to be an easy
fix. Well all plans are doomed to fail!  I jacked the backend up, took off
the
wheels and proceeded to pull the cotter pins that hold the retaining pins of
the cable to the rear brakes. That is as far as I got!  The retaining pins
will not come out. I heated them, banged them, cursed at them to no avail!
The only thing I did not do was cut them off. Should I just cut them or is
there some magical way that they are to be removed?

By the way, I located the other end of the cable  (handbrake lever end)
inside
the tunnel. Is there an easy way to remove this end or am I going to have to
become a contortionist in order to snake a wrench in the tunnel to remove the
cable??

Thanks for any help,
Steve Aldous
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From refisk at chartermi.net  Mon Jun 29 09:43:37 2009
From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:43:37 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 77 Midget Handbrake cable
References: <20090629.082942.22192.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com>
Message-ID: <009e01c9f8d0$5eac0e70$6401a8c0@refisk>

On one Midget I disassembled a few years ago the pins and arms were rusted 
so solid that they had become one and the same.  No amount of Busty, PB 
Blaster, heat, pounding with a drift pin, etc. made any difference.  They 
wouldn't budge.  I ended up drilling them out.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cclabaw at juno.com>
To: <sma at intech.com>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 77 Midget Handbrake cable


> Steve -
>
> Did you release the handbrake?  Pins should push out easily.............. 

From bighealey at charter.net  Mon Jun 29 10:12:15 2009
From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:12:15 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] OER
In-Reply-To: <776557.81277.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090629121215.A57ZM.1018221.root@mp18>

I have a Pierce Manifold and 32/36 Weber from Mike Pierce on a Midget Motor.
Recommended.

---- fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> --- On Sun, 6/28/09, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Pierce will pre set the carb up for your engine, 948 - 1275, stock or
> modified.  You give them all the details on what you are running, and they
> will match it to your engine.
> 
> 
> FYI, this is a service that shouldn't be underestimated!  Last week I bought a
> NIB 45DCOE for the attractive price of $200, but to purchase parts to change
> chokes and jetting to my specs will cost well over $200.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 10:42:49 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:42:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
Message-ID: <738632.69578.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The vacuum suggestions actually sound better than what I was thinking, but if
that doesn't work - how about this: Could there be a broken motor mount that
allows the engine to move and somehow obstruct or affect the hydraulic line? 
 
Actually on second thought, that wouldn't explain the pedal going down of its
own accord...  Never mind, go with the vacuum thing.
 
David Booker
'71 Midget
Long Island
 


--- On Sun, 6/28/09, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Frank <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 8:21 PM


Not a Sprite but a VW Jetta.
Not try to follow this.......
2003 Jetta, 60,000 miles, the clutch was acting up so the kid put a new slave
cylinder on it.
No change.
It works fine up to 3000 rpms then the clutch slips to where the car will not
move and there is no hydralic pressure on the peddal.
Slow down the revs and the pressure comes back, the car drives fine, shifts
fine until you hit 3000 rpms again and I watched as the clutch pedal went to
the floor just as this happened. It went to the floor all by itself.
Hitler's revenge?
The kid, my son, all his VW buddies, and myself are totally confused.
There was no slipping of the clutch at slow speeds, but what the hell makes
the pressure go away, or should I say what makes the pedal go down all by
itself?
It's so bad the car can not be driven unless you you shift at 2900 rpms and it
will go thru all 5 gears but rev it up and zoom zoom whizzzzzzzzzz.

-- Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 11:03:26 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:03:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Manifold stud woes - Help!
Message-ID: <215252.5697.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Need some suggestions (or at least commiseration) on a problem.
 
When I put the engine back in a couple weekends ago, my helpful friend noticed
that one of the manifold studs was a bit low on thread.  There was enough to
work, especially considering that the others were all in good shape, but it
was a bit lacking in thread out near the end.  Anyway, he grabbed it with a
pair of vice grips in an effort to remove it while my back was turned.  He did
not remove it, but he succeeded in rendering the stud completely useless byt
stripping half the remaining threads. 
 
Since then, I have sprayed Kroil and/or Busty on the stud virtually every
day.  Have also tried gripping it with every Vice-Grip and every other toothed
plier I own.  I also tapped it on the end rather smartly with a hammer.
Yesterday I resorted to the torch. (I had avoided this because of the nice new
paint job on the engine) Heating it up made no difference either.  The stud is
now mostly sans thread and looking rather sad. 
 
Suggestions?  Should I get my neighbor to come over and weld a T-handle onto
the end for leverage or is that likely to just twist it off in the head?
 
David Booker
'71 Midget unfortunately still not back together
Long Island

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 29 11:06:57 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:06:57 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Manifold stud woes - Help!
In-Reply-To: <215252.5697.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <215252.5697.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <72E1E505-B4CA-40A1-B798-1BCC97DB957C@comcast.net>

have your friend come over and weld a T-handle to him!

Have you tried the wax trick?  I've never used it but many do..

Lester

On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:03 PM, David Booker wrote:

> Need some suggestions (or at least commiseration) on a problem.
>
> When I put the engine back in a couple weekends ago, my helpful  
> friend noticed
> that one of the manifold studs was a bit low on thread.  There was  
> enough to
> work, especially considering that the others were all in good shape,  
> but it
> was a bit lacking in thread out near the end.  Anyway, he grabbed it  
> with a
> pair of vice grips in an effort to remove it while my back was  
> turned.  He did
> not remove it, but he succeeded in rendering the stud completely  
> useless byt
> stripping half the remaining threads.
>
> Since then, I have sprayed Kroil and/or Busty on the stud virtually  
> every
> day.  Have also tried gripping it with every Vice-Grip and every  
> other toothed
> plier I own.  I also tapped it on the end rather smartly with a  
> hammer.
> Yesterday I resorted to the torch. (I had avoided this because of  
> the nice new
> paint job on the engine) Heating it up made no difference either.   
> The stud is
> now mostly sans thread and looking rather sad.
>
> Suggestions?  Should I get my neighbor to come over and weld a T- 
> handle onto
> the end for leverage or is that likely to just twist it off in the  
> head?
>
> David Booker
> '71 Midget unfortunately still not back together
> Long Island
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From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 29 11:12:13 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:12:13 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
In-Reply-To: <4A4816FC.1000208@comcast.net>
References: <4A4816FC.1000208@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W11593B6CE078F42D647F95C2300@phx.gbl>

While I'm no expert, wait, you already know that, :-)

I agree with others that it appears to be a vacuum problem,
do the brakes get weird at or above the 3k mark also?
if not probably isn't the booster but a bad vacuum line.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!

ps The voltage gauge in my car works.
Problem is the genny isn't charging due to insufficient belt tension.
The nut on the gen bracket is stripped and it's not allowing it to hold
tension.
Just have to get it off and change it.

> Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:21:00 -0400
> From: spritenut at comcast.net
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
>
> Not a Sprite but a VW Jetta.
> Not try to follow this.......
> 2003 Jetta, 60,000 miles, the clutch was acting up so the kid put a new
> slave cylinder on it.
> No change.
> It works fine up to 3000 rpms then the clutch slips to where the car
> will not move and there is no hydralic pressure on the peddal.
> Slow down the revs and the pressure comes back, the car drives fine,
> shifts fine until you hit 3000 rpms again and I watched as the clutch
> pedal went to the floor just as this happened. It went to the floor all
> by itself.
> Hitler's revenge?
> The kid, my son, all his VW buddies, and myself are totally confused.
> There was no slipping of the clutch at slow speeds, but what the hell
> makes the pressure go away, or should I say what makes the pedal go down
> all by itself?
> It's so bad the car can not be driven unless you you shift at 2900 rpms
> and it will go thru all 5 gears but rev it up and zoom zoom whizzzzzzzzzz.
>
> --
> Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 11:19:51 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:19:51 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
In-Reply-To: <BLU103-W11593B6CE078F42D647F95C2300@phx.gbl>
References: <4A4816FC.1000208@comcast.net>
	<BLU103-W11593B6CE078F42D647F95C2300@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <402188520906291019t225d5833lb6c590cd7c84b350@mail.gmail.com>

> I agree with others that it appears to be a vacuum problem,
> do the brakes get weird at or above the 3k mark also?
> if not probably isn't the booster but a bad vacuum line.

I would agree with that except that it is NOT a vacuum-assisted
clutch. Yes, it uses brake fluid through a line that draws from the
brake M/C reservoir, but that has no bearing on the matter. Not seeing
anything in the AllDataPro about this symptom, but then I just opted
for the VR6 model (it IS one of your son's buddies, so it MUST be a
VR6, right?). What engine is it really?
David L

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Mon Jun 29 11:55:58 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:55:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
In-Reply-To: <402188520906291019t225d5833lb6c590cd7c84b350@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C66E4E3E.1F765%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> it is NOT a vacuum-assisted
> clutch. 
Unless it's connected to the wrong outlet on the MC. Never misunderestimate
the DPO.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 12:39:22 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:39:22 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
In-Reply-To: <C66E4E3E.1F765%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <402188520906291019t225d5833lb6c590cd7c84b350@mail.gmail.com>
	<C66E4E3E.1F765%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906291139y5461c235iedb9f6fae2f4009a@mail.gmail.com>

It really seems more centrifugal than vacuum. Vacuum level should not
change that consistently that it is always 3000 rpm regardless of
load. I know there isn't much room if it is a VR6 (same engine
compartment as my VR6 GTi), but I think I would be inclined to put it
up on blocks, disconnect the slave cylinder so that it no longer can
actuate the mechanism and rev it up to 3000 rpm, using the brakes to
supply a little load so as to be able to tell if it is slipping. It is
quite possible that there is something wrong with the pressure plate
(remember the old B&B muscle car pressure plates that got more
clamping power as the rpm went up via centrifugal force? The Germans
got it backwards) and the linkage is pulling down the pedal rather
than vice versa. I am betting that the engine will be coming out
again...
David L

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 14:02:46 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:02:46 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] OER
In-Reply-To: <776557.81277.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <776557.81277.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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The set up seems to be on the mark. . but nothing to compare it too.  The
car does get up and go. . I can pass just about anything I want around town
driving.  (1275 with Monza exhaust, elec fan, elec fuel pump, high energy
Petronix in a Mallory Dual Point, headers).

However, when the SU's were running top notch. .  it seems that my car was
running as fast even with the stock SU's.  I had a lot of hassle with my
SU's on this car. . . reason I went to the OER which has been fantastic.

My 1960 MGA's SU's ran fine, on the mark and were easy to tune with the
Color Tune.

I might have had worn throttle shafts. .  but shooting carb cleaner in the
area did not raise the engine revs. .  really did not seem to be worn.  I am
just happy that with the OER I can jump in the car and take off with no
hassles.

I am currently having a leak issue with my slave cyl.  Not sure if the bore
is worn or if it is the rebuild kit I put in a year or so ago?  I am buying
another rebuild kit and will see what happens from there.

Taking the top off the top bolt to get to the slave cyl sure made it an easy
task this time to pull the slave cyl out. .  very easy and quick to deal
with!

*I wonder if anyone on the list has an idea as to the life expectancy of the
bore in the slave cyl?  And if anyone has bought the generic brand slave cyl
from Moss, which sells for a good deal less than the brand names*?

Thanks,

Kirk

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 7:48 AM, fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote:

> --- On *Sun, 6/28/09, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> Pierce will pre set the carb up for your engine, 948 - 1275, stock or
> modified.  You give them all the details on what you are running, and they
> will match it to your engine.
>
>
> FYI, this is a service that shouldn't be underestimated!  Last week I
> bought a NIB 45DCOE for the attractive price of $200, but to purchase parts
> to change chokes and jetting to my specs will cost well over $200.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 14:14:21 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:14:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick. . .
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906291314j605a6d05p71a23ebd352633f4@mail.gmail.com>

What is the wax trick?


Thanks. . .

Kirk

From gjbranch at comcast.net  Mon Jun 29 14:21:25 2009
From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:21:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick. . .
References: <37dc82d40906291314j605a6d05p71a23ebd352633f4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0dcd01c9f8f7$2d522ae0$0201a8c0@DELL>

I'm dying to know too, but didn't dare ask as I know there are going to be 
some "comments" involving hair......
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To: <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 4:14 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick. . .


> What is the wax trick?
>
>
> Thanks. . .
>
> Kirk
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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 14:29:01 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:29:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick. . .
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Yeah, guess I missed that one big time. .  thought it might involve melting
wax into the area to remove the bolt!

Kirk

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Paul Asgeirsson <PAsgeirsson at att.net>wrote:

> You mean you missed that?
>
> Pa
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:14 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick. . .
>
>
> > What is the wax trick?
> >
> >
> > Thanks. . .
> >
> > Kirk
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From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Mon Jun 29 14:33:58 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:33:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick. . .
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We have a winner!  Sort of..

Idea is to heat the are to warm enough for wax to melt and wick in.   
you test this by touching wax to the bolt area and if it smokes it's  
too hot, when it melts and doesn't smoke you have the right temp.

As I said I have never done this but some say i's a good way to go..

Lester


On Jun 29, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

> Yeah, guess I missed that one big time. .  thought it might involve  
> melting
> wax into the area to remove the bolt!
>
> Kirk
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Paul Asgeirsson  
> <PAsgeirsson at att.net>wrote:
>
>> You mean you missed that?
>>
>> Pa
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>
>> To: <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
>> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:14 PM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick. . .
>>
>>
>>> What is the wax trick?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. . .
>>>
>>> Kirk
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Mon Jun 29 14:38:49 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:38:49 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] OER
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV10267A090A9F796F7DA1A9C8300@phx.gbl>

"This is a service that should not be under-estimated"

For sure. Webers are very tuneable and therefore very "sensitive". Having a pro come up with the bascially correct settings
for a specific stage of tune will save you time and money in correctly dialing in the
carb to engine spec.

And should you decide to take that final step in terms of a couple of pulls on a chassis dyno, having the motor already
more than 75% there, will save you even for
in tuning for max performance considering today's tuning costs.

Just make sure you go to a dyno operator is is ALSO AN ENGINE TUNER, as the former can exist without the latter and this sort of a mistake is to be avoided as it can really cost you.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: bighealey at charter.net
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:12 PM
To: Kirk Hargreaves, breton48 at live.com, fastvee
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OER

I have a Pierce Manifold and 32/36 Weber from Mike Pierce on a Midget Motor.
Recommended.

---- fastvee <fastvee at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> --- On Sun, 6/28/09, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Pierce will pre set the carb up for your engine, 948 - 1275, stock or
> modified.  You give them all the details on what you are running, and they
> will match it to your engine.
> 
> 
> FYI, this is a service that shouldn't be underestimated!  Last week I bought a
> NIB 45DCOE for the attractive price of $200, but to purchase parts to change
> chokes and jetting to my specs will cost well over $200.
> John
> Fogelsville, PA
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 16:02:00 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:02:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Manifold stud woes - Help!
Message-ID: <949553.14648.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Good suggestion there Lester, but I have to admit he has been extremely
helpful on many occassions before so I gotta give him a pass on this one
thing...  I would ask what "The Wax Trick" is, but I see lots more emails with
that in the title, so wll continue to open my mail in chronological order...
 
David Booker
Long Island

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Manifold stud woes - Help!
To: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "spridget" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 12:06 PM


have your friend come over and weld a T-handle to him!

Have you tried the wax trick?  I've never used it but many do..

Lester

On Jun 29, 2009, at 12:03 PM, David Booker wrote:

> Need some suggestions (or at least commiseration) on a problem.
>
> When I put the engine back in a couple weekends ago, my helpful friend
noticed
> that one of the manifold studs was a bit low on thread.  There was enough
to
> work, especially considering that the others were all in good shape, but it
> was a bit lacking in thread out near the end.  Anyway, he grabbed it with a
> pair of vice grips in an effort to remove it while my back was turned.  He
did
> not remove it, but he succeeded in rendering the stud completely useless
byt
> stripping half the remaining threads.
>
> Since then, I have sprayed Kroil and/or Busty on the stud virtually every
> day.  Have also tried gripping it with every Vice-Grip and every other
toothed
> plier I own.  I also tapped it on the end rather smartly with a hammer.
> Yesterday I resorted to the torch. (I had avoided this because of the nice
new
> paint job on the engine) Heating it up made no difference either.  The stud
is
> now mostly sans thread and looking rather sad.
>
> Suggestions?  Should I get my neighbor to come over and weld a T-handle
onto
> the end for leverage or is that likely to just twist it off in the head?
>
> David Booker
> '71 Midget unfortunately still not back together
> Long Island
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From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun 29 16:09:09 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:09:09 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue
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David Lieb wrote:
>>     
>
> I would agree with that except that it is NOT a vacuum-assisted
> clutch. 
No vacuum at all on the clutch hydraulics.
And it is a VR6, stock set up.
They yanked out the clutch today to find the pressure plate face was in 
5 pieces.
Yet the driver says he NEVER did an 8000 rpm side step ;)
So how does one split the friction face of a pressure plate in 5 pieces?
I could see if he drove through a slush puddle but not in late June in 
Jersey.
I cracked a brake rotor driving thru slush once.
Even an 8000 rpm clutch dump would shatter the disc you would think?
Maybe the p/plate was made in china.
A Sachs went back in.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From cooper6 at swbell.net  Mon Jun 29 16:14:59 2009
From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:14:59 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake pads
Message-ID: <094CD34159F745E6A44F8D2A475D8974@cooper>

All,

 

What brand are people using for Disc break pads? And whom are you purchasing
from?





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From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Mon Jun 29 16:22:22 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:22:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] FW:  Weird clutch issue
Message-ID: <0E63CCDC213544FC8E64242068F01155@spider>

It could have had a defect in it. And it doesn't have to show up immediately
as it starts to crack/break up. ...bill in oregon
=====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 3:09 PM
To: David Lieb
Cc: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Weird clutch issue

David Lieb wrote:
>>     
>
> I would agree with that except that it is NOT a vacuum-assisted
> clutch. 
No vacuum at all on the clutch hydraulics.
And it is a VR6, stock set up.
They yanked out the clutch today to find the pressure plate face was in 
5 pieces.
Yet the driver says he NEVER did an 8000 rpm side step ;)
So how does one split the friction face of a pressure plate in 5 pieces?
I could see if he drove through a slush puddle but not in late June in 
Jersey.
I cracked a brake rotor driving thru slush once.
Even an 8000 rpm clutch dump would shatter the disc you would think?
Maybe the p/plate was made in china.
A Sachs went back in.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
_______________________________________________

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun 29 16:49:52 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:49:52 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake pads
In-Reply-To: <094CD34159F745E6A44F8D2A475D8974@cooper>
References: <094CD34159F745E6A44F8D2A475D8974@cooper>
Message-ID: <4A494510.4020404@comcast.net>

Martin wrote:
> All,
>
>  
>
> What brand are people using for Disc break pads? And whom are you purchasing
> from?
>
>
>
>   
I was buying old stock Vera brake pads for a buck a set ;)
Those days are gone.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From gmuttart at eastlink.ca  Mon Jun 29 17:00:54 2009
From: gmuttart at eastlink.ca (Geoff Muttart)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:00:54 -0300
Subject: [Spridgets] Beaulieu Autojumble - September (spousal alternative)
Message-ID: <73C42FD967E349AF8F1ADCB6215B2C9A@FAMILY>

My wife is looking for other spouses who may be more interested in
travelling to the Jane Austen House & Museum in Chawton-Alton, Hampshire on
Saturday, September 12, instead of hanging out at Beaulieu for two days.

 

If you plan to attend Beaulieu, and your spouse might be interested in this
side trip, they can email my wife Anne-Marie at [alapointe at eastlink.ca]
(where "at" is "@", of course).

 

Geoff Muttart

Nova Scotia

Bugeye Sprite

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 18:46:37 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:46:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
Message-ID: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote: Idea is to heat
the are to warm enough for wax to melt and wick in.  
 
OK, the garage has a nice Vanilla smell now, but the stud is still there. I
can see how it would work in a lot of instances, but this seems to be too
close a tolerance to happen in this case.
 
I think my main problem is getting a grip on the now-stripped stud.  My Vice
Grips tend to fall into two categories: The first group are so large that the
jaws are angled too steeply to grip at this small diameter.  The second
smaller group are good for getting on the stud, but the teeth are too small to
dig in effectively and the handles are too short to get any torque if I did
get them gripped...  And I cant get enough squeeze on the non-locking pliers
to do anything except further polish the stud. 
 
I really don't trust my ability to cut it off and drill it out by hand. 
 
More ideas?
 
 - David Booker
 
 

 

From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 19:21:12 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:21:12 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
In-Reply-To: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906291821t634d7f76jca24b379bb2145fb@mail.gmail.com>

You might end up having to center punch it directly in the center. .  get a
sharp new metal drill bit and drill it out being prepared to re-cut the
threads with a tap and die set.  If get have the tools to re-cut (clean up)
the threads afterwards you should be fine.

M7 take on it. . .

Kirk

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:46 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> --- On *Mon, 6/29/09, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>* wrote: Idea is to
> heat the are to warm enough for wax to melt and wick in.
>
> OK, the garage has a nice Vanilla smell now, but the stud is still there. I
> can see how it would work in a lot of instances, but this seems to be too
> close a tolerance to happen in this case.
>
> I think my main problem is getting a grip on the now-stripped stud.  My
> Vice Grips tend to fall into two categories: The first group are so large
> that the jaws are angled too steeply to grip at this small diameter.  The
> second smaller group are good for getting on the stud, but the teeth are too
> small to dig in effectively and the handles are too short to get any torque
> if I did get them gripped...  And I cant get enough squeeze on the
> non-locking pliers to do anything except further polish the stud.
>
> I really don't trust my ability to cut it off and drill it out by hand.
>
> More ideas?
>
>  - David Booker

From lbc at littlebitcountry.com  Mon Jun 29 19:23:14 2009
From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:23:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
In-Reply-To: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200906300123.n5U1NJjx024760@mail.usimperio.com>

The best idea I can come up with is find a MAC truck and buy a stud 
remover with a 3/8 drive with what ever size stud you are trying to 
remove. You won't believe how well they work.


Dave


At 08:46 PM 6/29/2009, you wrote:
>--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote: Idea is to heat
>the are to warm enough for wax to melt and wick in.
>
>OK, the garage has a nice Vanilla smell now, but the stud is still there. I
>can see how it would work in a lot of instances, but this seems to be too
>close a tolerance to happen in this case.
>
>I think my main problem is getting a grip on the now-stripped stud.  My Vice
>Grips tend to fall into two categories: The first group are so large that the
>jaws are angled too steeply to grip at this small diameter.  The second
>smaller group are good for getting on the stud, but the teeth are too small to
>dig in effectively and the handles are too short to get any torque if I did
>get them gripped...  And I cant get enough squeeze on the non-locking pliers
>to do anything except further polish the stud.
>
>I really don't trust my ability to cut it off and drill it out by hand.
>
>More ideas?
>
>  - David Booker

From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 19:26:37 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:26:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Manifold stud is out!
Message-ID: <500835.76091.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Well, All you apparently have to do is be stubborn enough to not quit and then
get beyond caring if you screw up the paint (it's gonna be under the manifold
anyway, right?)
 
I called my friend down the street for moral support, we heated it up till the
whole stud was glowing red, then snapped on the biggest vice grips I could -
arms shaking with the effort... Then it slowly began to turn and finally
came out.  I think I'll mount it on a plaque and hang it in the garage. 
 
Thanks for all the suggestions, humor, and encouragement.  This group is
great.
 
David Booker
'71 Midget back on the road to recovery ('till the next roadblock)
Long Island 

From 60bugeye at cebridge.net  Mon Jun 29 19:42:02 2009
From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:42:02 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
In-Reply-To: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <36B0058A692D4E529A9D348F3BEA4905@CatheyBPC>

Get a stud remover.  Proto makes one. Has a cam type  action which rotates 
inside a grooved hole (which the stud or bolt fits thru) and the other end 
takes a ratchet on it.  If you cant find one or just need to borrow one I 
would be willing to send you mine in the mail and you can return it as soon 
as you get the stud out.

Leo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
To: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>; "Lester" 
<oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Paul Asgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .


> --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote: Idea is to 
> heat
> the are to warm enough for wax to melt and wick in.
>
> OK, the garage has a nice Vanilla smell now, but the stud is still there. 
> I
> can see how it would work in a lot of instances, but this seems to be too
> close a tolerance to happen in this case.
>
> I think my main problem is getting a grip on the now-stripped stud.  My 
> Vice
> Grips tend to fall into two categories: The first group are so large that 
> the
> jaws are angled too steeply to grip at this small diameter.  The second
> smaller group are good for getting on the stud, but the teeth are too 
> small to
> dig in effectively and the handles are too short to get any torque if I 
> did
> get them gripped...  And I cant get enough squeeze on the non-locking 
> pliers
> to do anything except further polish the stud.
>
> I really don't trust my ability to cut it off and drill it out by hand.
>
> More ideas?
>
> - David Booker
>
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From thcollin at mtu.edu  Mon Jun 29 19:46:29 2009
From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:46:29 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Manifold stud is out!
In-Reply-To: <500835.76091.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <500835.76091.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7ll0se$6k8gdc@email.mtu.edu>

At 09:26 PM 6/29/2009, David Booker wrote:
>Well, All you apparently have to do is be stubborn

Hmmmm. The candle wax must have worked!

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ 

From billmasq at hotmail.com  Mon Jun 29 19:51:06 2009
From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:51:06 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
In-Reply-To: <36B0058A692D4E529A9D348F3BEA4905@CatheyBPC>
References: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<36B0058A692D4E529A9D348F3BEA4905@CatheyBPC>
Message-ID: <BLU107-W760349AD50D3D230C2CDECA310@phx.gbl>

Before I had my stud remover I used to use a small pipe wrench to remove tight
studs, worked OK
BillM

> From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net
> To: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com
> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:42:02 -0500
> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net; PAsgeirsson at att.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
>
> Get a stud remover.  Proto makes one. Has a cam type  action which rotates
> inside a grooved hole (which the stud or bolt fits thru) and the other end
> takes a ratchet on it.  If you cant find one or just need to borrow one I
> would be willing to send you mine in the mail and you can return it as soon
> as you get the stud out.
>
> Leo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>; "Lester"
> <oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
> Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Paul Asgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:46 PM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
>
>
> > --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote: Idea is to
> > heat
> > the are to warm enough for wax to melt and wick in.
> >
> > OK, the garage has a nice Vanilla smell now, but the stud is still there.
> > I
> > can see how it would work in a lot of instances, but this seems to be too
> > close a tolerance to happen in this case.
> >
> > I think my main problem is getting a grip on the now-stripped stud.  My
> > Vice
> > Grips tend to fall into two categories: The first group are so large that
> > the
> > jaws are angled too steeply to grip at this small diameter.  The second
> > smaller group are good for getting on the stud, but the teeth are too
> > small to
> > dig in effectively and the handles are too short to get any torque if I
> > did
> > get them gripped...  And I cant get enough squeeze on the non-locking
> > pliers
> > to do anything except further polish the stud.
> >
> > I really don't trust my ability to cut it off and drill it out by hand.
> >
> > More ideas?
> >
> > - David Booker
> >
> >
> >
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From kidjoevid at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 19:51:09 2009
From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:51:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] No Brake pressure
Message-ID: <758813.42097.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

T expand on my situation - My problem got much worse after I did the rebuild on the master cylinder. I had pressure, but it would not hold, before my rebuild. I have all new flex lines, rebuilt disks, (although rebuilt by me).

Before M/C rebuild - great action when bleeding.

After M/C rebuild - dribble at bleeders, strong squirt at ports at M/C.

Any further guidance?

Thanks,

Joe

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

> From: Frank <spritenut at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Brake pressure
> To: "Joe Lansing" <kidjoevid at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 2:12 AM
> Joe Lansing wrote:
> > I just put disks on the front of my 62, 
> 
> Are the bleeder nipples in the correct holes on the
> calipers?
> I don't have one in front of me but there is a plug and a
> bleeder, if you mix them up, no squirt.
> How are the rubber brake hoses? If they are 10 years old or
> older, cut them and replace them.
> They tend to collapse in time and could burst when you hit
> the brakes.
> 
> -- Frank Clarici
> Toms River, NJ
> My own Fleet of Sprites

From spritenut at comcast.net  Mon Jun 29 20:34:04 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:34:04 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
Message-ID: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>

I noticed a guy selling Austin Healey seat belts on Ebay for $250 + 35 
to ship them.
Yes they have the correct logo on them.
I can supply the correct logo and  lap seat belts in any color and they 
are the correct "airplane" buckle type in nylon.
And I can do this for $100 a set shipped and still make a buck. (set 
does one Spridget, 2 seats)
So if there is a need for original style lap belts with the correct logo 
(OEM from 62-67) but will work on 58s if you get the mounting kit,
let me know.
I am NOT taking orders yet but if there is enough people who want them, 
I can have the buckle logos made up.
Email me with an "I'm interested" if you are. 58-67 had lap belts only.
No 3 points, but I'm working on that too.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 20:37:47 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:37:47 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake pads
In-Reply-To: <094CD34159F745E6A44F8D2A475D8974@cooper>
References: <094CD34159F745E6A44F8D2A475D8974@cooper>
Message-ID: <402188520906291937n1f8e95ecr1a77c25b57a25a03@mail.gmail.com>

I use the EBC Greenstuff pads.

LBCarCo.com carries them:

585-625
BRAKE PADS, GREENSTUFF, EBC
REDUCED FOR LBCARCO SALE
SPRITE, MIDGET, TR7
Retail $69.95 Moss Sale price $54.95 Our Price $54.40

1st generation had some dusting issues, but they are much better now.
No complaints from me.
David L


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>
>
>
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 21:18:19 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:18:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
Message-ID: <894591.43474.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Thanks Leo - My neighbor had one but it was too big.  That was going to be my
next move but the massive application of heat and torque finally worked.
 - David

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote:


From: ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
To: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net, "Paul Asgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 8:42 PM


Get a stud remover.  Proto makes one. Has a cam type  action which rotates
inside a grooved hole (which the stud or bolt fits thru) and the other end
takes a ratchet on it.  If you cant find one or just need to borrow one I
would be willing to send you mine in the mail and you can return it as soon as
you get the stud out.

Leo
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>
To: "Kirk Hargreaves" <khargreaves2 at gmail.com>; "Lester"
<oldsaabguy at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>; "Paul Asgeirsson" <PAsgeirsson at att.net>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:46 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .


> --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote: Idea is to heat
> the are to warm enough for wax to melt and wick in.
>
> OK, the garage has a nice Vanilla smell now, but the stud is still there. I
> can see how it would work in a lot of instances, but this seems to be too
> close a tolerance to happen in this case.
>
> I think my main problem is getting a grip on the now-stripped stud.  My
Vice
> Grips tend to fall into two categories: The first group are so large that
the
> jaws are angled too steeply to grip at this small diameter.  The second
> smaller group are good for getting on the stud, but the teeth are too small
to
> dig in effectively and the handles are too short to get any torque if I did
> get them gripped...  And I cant get enough squeeze on the non-locking
pliers
> to do anything except further polish the stud.
>
> I really don't trust my ability to cut it off and drill it out by hand.
>
> More ideas?
>
> - David Booker
>
>
>
>
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Mon Jun 29 21:20:10 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:20:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Manifold stud is out!
Message-ID: <472108.55189.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yeah, that was the deciding factor, for sure...
 - David

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu> wrote:


From: Tim Collins <thcollin at mtu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Manifold stud is out!
To: "David Booker" <tncarnut1 at yahoo.com>, "spridget"
<spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 8:46 PM


At 09:26 PM 6/29/2009, David Booker wrote:
>Well, All you apparently have to do is be stubborn

Hmmmm. The candle wax must have worked!

Tim Collins
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/

From froggi60 at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 22:35:54 2009
From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:35:54 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] No Brake pressure
In-Reply-To: <758813.42097.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <758813.42097.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10906292135g6fae5c10n55ae66ad73a9919@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,

Are you having to add fluid?

Leaks?  Check the brake and clutch fittings at the MC.

Herb

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Jun 29 23:45:23 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:45:23 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
In-Reply-To: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090630054535.0A23D187B75@autox.team.net>

Try the "wax trick" only use penetrating oil. Worse case cut it off, center
punch it real good, & get a right hand twist drill bit.
				Crash

I really don't trust my ability to cut it off and drill it out by hand. 
 
More ideas?
 
 - David Booker

From dwramsey at att.net  Mon Jun 29 23:50:44 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:50:44 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20090630055101.095F2187B5B@autox.team.net>

My 61 has a no point.
		Crash

No 3 points, but I'm working on that too.

-- 
Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 05:33:24 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:33:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
Message-ID: <998372.65424.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:
> My 61 has a no
point.
>         Crash

Crash,
I've got an infinite NOS stash of those. $9.95
delivered and, something the big suppliers don't do, INSTALLED as well. Anyone
interested, let me know. 

Ron

From edwd at ti.com  Tue Jun 30 05:56:33 2009
From: edwd at ti.com (Fisher, Ed)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:56:33 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] stud removal
Message-ID: <F12EBA124C6E064B9CF1B45E67DDB7E77C683D23@dlee02.ent.ti.com>

When nothing else has worked, I have had great success with Kano Labs
Sili-Kroil.  You can google it and find a thousand sources.  It takes some
time to penetrate, as in days sometimes, but just a couple of drops from the
red spray tip extender will find its way into the threads.  They have great
testimonials from folks that work on trains, big machinery in field
applications, etc.  It has worked for me repeatedly.  If that does not work, I
apply heat with an oxy-acetylene torch, to keep it nice and localized, and
apply a brand new pair of Vise-Grip pliers with the knurled ends on the jaw
nice and sharp and use this for twisting.  I use a ridiculous amount of force
to get the jaws to finally 'click' and lock and then have at it.  A large pair
of channel locks will turn the Vise-Grips themselves.  If you have enough
room, the sharper teeth near the pivot point of 'needle nosed' Vise Grips (the
larger variety) really clamp well and bite into the offending piece.  These
can then be tapped with a hammer and the shock force helps to break things
free.  I have used all of these methods, sometimes in concert, and sometimes
over and over again, but have always gotten frozen bolts out, and yes-manifold
studs too.  You are doing exactly the right thing getting opinions and
approaches before shredding what is left with dull tools, or resulting to the
last resort, in my opinion, drilling.  I really am not that skilled with a
drill at an angle.

All the best,

Ed Fisher
Dallas, Tx

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 30 06:19:37 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:19:37 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] stud removal
In-Reply-To: <F12EBA124C6E064B9CF1B45E67DDB7E77C683D23@dlee02.ent.ti.com>
References: <F12EBA124C6E064B9CF1B45E67DDB7E77C683D23@dlee02.ent.ti.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W343B36523169E46DDD8099B8310@phx.gbl>

Phew!



I read that subject line and thought that I was being kicked off the list.
;)

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 06:37:32 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:37:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
References: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <535042.75688.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Any options for us Midget-eers?  I ordered a pair of retractable ones for my Midget that stated they were for my car (on ebay) only to find that they will not retract unless in the absolute vertical position.  Not working in a Midget mounted at the angle on the fender well.  I'd trade out mine for the two point.



Edward
To: Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 7:34:04 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts

I noticed a guy selling Austin Healey seat belts on Ebay for $250 + 35 to ship them.
Yes they have the correct logo on them.
I can supply the correct logo and  lap seat belts in any color and they are the correct "airplane" buckle type in nylon.
And I can do this for $100 a set shipped and still make a buck. (set does one Spridget, 2 seats)
So if there is a need for original style lap belts with the correct logo (OEM from 62-67) but will work on 58s if you get the mounting kit,
let me know.
I am NOT taking orders yet but if there is enough people who want them, I can have the buckle logos made up.
Email me with an "I'm interested" if you are. 58-67 had lap belts only.
No 3 points, but I'm working on that too.

-- Frank Clarici
Toms River, NJ
My own Fleet of Sprites
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From fastvee at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 06:58:36 2009
From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:58:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake pads
Message-ID: <448904.49011.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I am also getting good results with the EBC Greenstuff. David, do you notice a
different pedal feel with the EBC pads?
John
Fogelsville, PA

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Disc Brake pads
To: "Martin" <cooper6 at swbell.net>, "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 10:37 PM

I use the EBC Greenstuff pads.

LBCarCo.com carries them:

585-625
BRAKE PADS, GREENSTUFF, EBC
REDUCED FOR LBCARCO SALE
SPRITE, MIDGET, TR7
Retail $69.95 Moss Sale price $54.95 Our Price $54.40

1st generation had some dusting issues, but they are much better now.
No complaints from me.
David L


On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Martin<cooper6 at swbell.net> wrote:
> All,
>
>
>
> What brand are people using for Disc break pads? And whom are you
purchasing
> from?
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>
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 30 07:09:42 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:09:42 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <998372.65424.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <998372.65424.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W393B2CB6DB8E6C1BA8C6D1B8310@phx.gbl>

I confess to being confused here.  I don't see any point to getting this!!
;)



I suppose that removal of the existing system prior to your installation still
rests with the purchaser of your system?

> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:33:24 -0700
>
> --- On Tue, 6/30/09, David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net> wrote:
> > My 61 has a no
> point.
> > Crash
>
> Crash,
> I've got an infinite NOS stash of those. $9.95
> delivered and, something the big suppliers don't do, INSTALLED as well.
Anyone
> interested, let me know.
>
> Ron

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jun 30 07:14:52 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:14:52 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <20090630055101.095F2187B5B@autox.team.net>
References: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
	<20090630055101.095F2187B5B@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>

At 10:50 PM 6/29/2009, David Ramsey wrote:
>My 61 has a no point.
>                 Crash
>
>No 3 points, but I'm working on that too.
==========================
Coupla points.....

Crash, literature indicates that in fact, the 1961 Sprite is/was the 
first car to have the soon to be NY State mandated (effective 1962) 
seatbelt anchorages.

Second, here in Westconsin, and I suspect elsewhere, we are enacting 
legislation enabling the confabulatory to be able to pull you over 
strictly for lack of seatbelt. Up until now, they would be able to 
ticket you for no belt if they had otherwise reason to stop you. Now, 
thanks to federal "mandates" tied to highway funding, they can stop 
you for not having a belt. So, I guess we all need to show a shoulder 
belt. I really don't want a shoulder belt, though I religiously wear 
a lap belt in my Mini. And, I REALLY don't want to discuss the 
originality issue at bar time.....

I think I'll be installing a fictitious shoulder belt.

Peter C. 

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 07:15:07 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:15:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
Message-ID: <65945.43538.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I suppose that removal of the existing system prior to your
> installation still
> rests with the purchaser of your system?

No, for the same $9.95 I'll also remove the ones that aren't there.

Ron

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 30 07:17:38 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:38 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] stud removal
References: <F12EBA124C6E064B9CF1B45E67DDB7E77C683D23@dlee02.ent.ti.com>
	<BAY112-W343B36523169E46DDD8099B8310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <128F4A31EBB243EEBD34C5AB7415546B@Larry>

RD, that was bad enough that you should be thrown out.  ;-))

LAD

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stud removal


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From bighealey at charter.net  Tue Jun 30 07:18:45 2009
From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:18:45 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <38601A8A3FC9462C8DE3A3C08C8B32E8@TRACY>

Do the fictitious shoulder belts come discounted when you buy the decorative
roll over bar?

Why not just get the ones from Moss or VB.  They do not have to be vertical
to retract.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

David Ramsey wrote:
>My 61 has a no point.
>                 Crash
>
>No 3 points, but I'm working on that too.
==========================
Coupla points.....

Crash, literature indicates that in fact, the 1961 Sprite is/was the 
first car to have the soon to be NY State mandated (effective 1962) 
seatbelt anchorages.

Second, here in Westconsin, and I suspect elsewhere, we are enacting 
legislation enabling the confabulatory to be able to pull you over 
strictly for lack of seatbelt. Up until now, they would be able to 
ticket you for no belt if they had otherwise reason to stop you. Now, 
thanks to federal "mandates" tied to highway funding, they can stop 
you for not having a belt. So, I guess we all need to show a shoulder 
belt. I really don't want a shoulder belt, though I religiously wear 
a lap belt in my Mini. And, I REALLY don't want to discuss the 
originality issue at bar time.....

I think I'll be installing a fictitious shoulder belt.

Peter C. 

From mdrowe at optonline.net  Tue Jun 30 07:24:32 2009
From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:24:32 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <535042.75688.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
	<535042.75688.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7982A2EA5395442D8C624EDD24A72345@Home>

I have 3-point retractable seat belts and find them unsatisfying.  They only 
function in a crash, which means the will not hold you tightly in your seat 
under normal hard turning.  I like the feeling of being "bolted" to the car 
and driving by feel through my butt.  You can't get that from retractable 
belts.  I will upgrad to 4-point belts.

Michael Rowe 

From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 30 07:32:49 2009
From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:32:49 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
References: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net><20090630055101.095F2187B5B@autox.team.net>
	<200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <D3590118CB5245B0AE28DE2807C1F219@Larry>

Coupla points.....

Crash, literature indicates that in fact, the 1961 Sprite is/was the
first car to have the soon to be NY State mandated (effective 1962)
seatbelt anchorages.

Second, here in Westconsin, and I suspect elsewhere, we are enacting
legislation enabling the confabulatory to be able to pull you over
strictly for lack of seatbelt. Up until now, they would be able to
ticket you for no belt if they had otherwise reason to stop you. Now,
thanks to federal "mandates" tied to highway funding, they can stop
you for not having a belt. So, I guess we all need to show a shoulder
belt. I really don't want a shoulder belt, though I religiously wear
a lap belt in my Mini. And, I REALLY don't want to discuss the
originality issue at bar time.....

I think I'll be installing a fictitious shoulder belt.

Peter C.
_______________________________________________

Peter, are they going to be requiring 3 point belts on all cars or will the 
older ones be grandfathered with the 2 pointers?

I do realize that you may want to show a shoulder belt to keep them from 
stopping you in the first place.

By the way, an interesting point is that my A60 Ute came with a shoulder 
belt, but no lap belt.  Never heard of that before.  It's on my list of 
things-to-do.

LAD

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 07:38:01 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:38:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
Message-ID: <368787.77584.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, Larry Daniels <ladaniels at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> my A60 Ute 

Coolest cars in the Blackhawk paddock were with us. Peter's Mini, Dave's MINI, Lieb's/Crash's Bugeye, somebody's impossibly large Buick, and my favorite - Larry's "Austin Ranchero," as Zoom put it.

Ron

From eap2140 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 07:52:22 2009
From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:52:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <38601A8A3FC9462C8DE3A3C08C8B32E8@TRACY>
References: <38601A8A3FC9462C8DE3A3C08C8B32E8@TRACY>
Message-ID: <886564.31050.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Have you seen what Mo$$ and VB want for them?  Last I looked it was $235 for the pair of retractable....




________________________________
From: Tracy Drummond <bighealey at charter.net>
To: Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>; David Ramsey <dwramsey at att.net>; Frank <spritenut at comcast.net>
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:18:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seat belts

Do the fictitious shoulder belts come discounted when you buy the decorative
roll over bar?

Why not just get the ones from Moss or VB.  They do not have to be vertical
to retract.

Tracy Drummond                  Gang Warily !
President AHCUSA              www.healey.org

David Ramsey wrote:
>My 61 has a no point.
>                 Crash
>
>No 3 points, but I'm working on that too.
==========================
Coupla points.....

Crash, literature indicates that in fact, the 1961 Sprite is/was the 
first car to have the soon to be NY State mandated (effective 1962) 
seatbelt anchorages.

Second, here in Westconsin, and I suspect elsewhere, we are enacting 
legislation enabling the confabulatory to be able to pull you over 
strictly for lack of seatbelt. Up until now, they would be able to 
ticket you for no belt if they had otherwise reason to stop you. Now, 
thanks to federal "mandates" tied to highway funding, they can stop 
you for not having a belt. So, I guess we all need to show a shoulder 
belt. I really don't want a shoulder belt, though I religiously wear 
a lap belt in my Mini. And, I REALLY don't want to discuss the 
originality issue at bar time.....

I think I'll be installing a fictitious shoulder belt.

Peter C. 
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 30 07:55:18 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:55:18 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
	<20090630055101.095F2187B5B@autox.team.net> 
	<200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W4203118379F72A13D8A1FFB8310@phx.gbl>

Maybe you can get a special driving shirt with a belt sen on? :)



> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:14:52 -0700
>
> I think I'll be installing a fictitious shoulder belt.
>
> Peter C.

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 30 08:02:51 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:02:51 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] stud removal
In-Reply-To: <128F4A31EBB243EEBD34C5AB7415546B@Larry>
References: <F12EBA124C6E064B9CF1B45E67DDB7E77C683D23@dlee02.ent.ti.com>
	<BAY112-W343B36523169E46DDD8099B8310@phx.gbl>
	<128F4A31EBB243EEBD34C5AB7415546B@Larry>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W52A3EA7BE2D6B1A69FFF5B8310@phx.gbl>

It has happened to me before.



Sometimes I think before I speak ( write ) and sometimes I don't ... :)






> From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net
>
> RD, that was bad enough that you should be thrown out. ;-))
>
> LAD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
>
> Phew!
>
> I read that subject line and thought that I was being kicked off the list.
> ;)

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 30 08:06:21 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:06:21 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <7982A2EA5395442D8C624EDD24A72345@Home>
References: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
	<535042.75688.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> 
	<7982A2EA5395442D8C624EDD24A72345@Home>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W40359F0B02722FA0CE0313B8310@phx.gbl>

> and driving by feel through my butt.



Now there's somehting that I haven't been accused of yet!  Talking though ...
yes ... driving ... no.



> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:24:32 -0400
>
> I have 3-point retractable seat belts and find them unsatisfying. They only
> function in a crash, which means the will not hold you tightly in your seat
> under normal hard turning. I like the feeling of being "bolted" to the car
> and driving by feel through my butt. You can't get that from retractable
> belts. I will upgrad to 4-point belts.
>
> Michael Rowe

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 30 08:18:35 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:18:35 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <BAY112-W4203118379F72A13D8A1FFB8310@phx.gbl>
References: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
	<20090630055101.095F2187B5B@autox.team.net> 
	<200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> 
	<BAY112-W4203118379F72A13D8A1FFB8310@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W21A6F5FF1FFEECB7279179B8310@phx.gbl>

'sen'?  I meant 'sewn'.



I guess I still haven't gotten over the 'Sens' ( Ottawa Senators ) not making
the playoffs.  Or perhaps I have a sticky keyboard and just can't type ( or
proof read )?




> From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca
>
> Maybe you can get a special driving shirt with a belt sen on? :)
>
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:14:52 -0700
> >
> > I think I'll be installing a fictitious shoulder belt.
> >
> > Peter C.

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Jun 30 08:40:56 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:40:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <886564.31050.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <38601A8A3FC9462C8DE3A3C08C8B32E8@TRACY>,
	<886564.31050.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4A49C188.10450.1E93B7@kk7ss.verizon.net>

You might want to look at R.J.S. Racing Equipment.
VG Belts/harnesses and not that expensive.
I'll be putting 3" lap-belts in the Beast if I ever get the damn sawn 
off bolt out of the tunnel mount !!!
NFI... etc.,
--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From pchast at francomm.com  Tue Jun 30 11:56:22 2009
From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:56:22 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
	<20090630055101.095F2187B5B@autox.team.net>
	<200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <op.uwcmr8gdsjevdj@66-109-47-247.dialup.francomm.com>

The law in NYS only applied to those cars that were 'born'
with the belts.

Got a ticket once, years ago, driving a friends 55 Chevy and
it was thrown out for that reason.

Pete

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:14:52 -0700, Peter Caldwell <peter at nosimport.com>  
wrote:

>
> At 10:50 PM 6/29/2009, David Ramsey wrote:
>> My 61 has a no point.
>>                 Crash
>>
>> No 3 points, but I'm working on that too.
> ==========================
> Coupla points.....
>
> Crash, literature indicates that in fact, the 1961 Sprite is/was the
> first car to have the soon to be NY State mandated (effective 1962)
> seatbelt anchorages.
>
> Second, here in Westconsin, and I suspect elsewhere, we are enacting
> legislation enabling the confabulatory to be able to pull you over
> strictly for lack of seatbelt. Up until now, they would be able to
> ticket you for no belt if they had otherwise reason to stop you. Now,
> thanks to federal "mandates" tied to highway funding, they can stop
> you for not having a belt. So, I guess we all need to show a shoulder
> belt. I really don't want a shoulder belt, though I religiously wear
> a lap belt in my Mini. And, I REALLY don't want to discuss the
> originality issue at bar time.....
>
> I think I'll be installing a fictitious shoulder belt.
>
> Peter C.
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From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 08:58:40 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:58:40 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake pads
In-Reply-To: <448904.49011.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <448904.49011.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906300758k6a43504cue8de564dd943454e@mail.gmail.com>

> I am also getting good results with the EBC Greenstuff. David, do you notice
> a different pedal feel with the EBC pads?

I can feel a difference between them and whatever is on the Bugeye.
Not exactly apples to apples, however.
David L

From smarc at smarc.net  Tue Jun 30 09:01:14 2009
From: smarc at smarc.net (Marc)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:01:14 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] On the road again!
Message-ID: <4A4A28BA.5040906@smarc.net>

There's a certain '73 midget terrorizing the SUV's around here again!

I fired the car up again yesterday, figured I would just let the damn 
thing run until whatever was causing the smoke from the trans bell 
housing either failed spectacularly or stopped, or whatever. At least if 
I was gonna have to take it apart again, I wanted it to be obvious where 
the issue was.

No smoke at idle, but as soon as the car was moved a little bit, smoke 
from the bell housing appeared, albeit way less then previously. Since 
the clutch seems to work perfectly, I drove the car up & down the street 
and driveway, slipping the clutch reasonably aggressively.

Checking again, no smoke. Seems to have stopped whatever it was. Perhaps 
the spectacular failure is still imminent... 

I checked the slave pushrod length and it was within 1/16" (short), so 
buttoned it up & took it out for a little drive, and it seemed to be 
working great. Once it got warmed up, it started rattling something 
fierce. I thought something had broken until I realized that it was the 
worst ignition pinking I have ever heard! Engine has a newly rebuilt 
dist (from Matt @ advanced dist). I guess the timing mark on the bottom 
pulley is meaningless at this point, guess the rubber has shifted or 
something...  hate having that mark on the bottom anyway... I wound up 
just retarding and retarding until the pinking stopped. Only problem is 
it was just gutless at that point. I could not find a happy medium. 
Finally I disconnected the vacuum advance, and advanced the dist a few 
degrees and it runs pretty good on just the mechanical advance.

I had the dist connected to intake manifold vacuum originally, which 
turned out to be way too much. Then I made a restrictor to go inline 
with the hose, but apparently even that must still be too much vacuum. 
Perhaps I'll make a new one if I can find my set of wire sized drill bits...

Anyway, flogged the car pretty good for about two & 1/2 hours all told, 
it runs great!


-- 

Marc

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jun 30 09:11:19 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:11:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Differentials
Message-ID: <285885.88787.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

ANyone know the coding on the outside of the diff's for specific read-end ratios?

Jay Fishbein
Wallingford, CT 06492

From davriker at nwi.net  Tue Jun 30 09:17:02 2009
From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:17:02 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
References: <38601A8A3FC9462C8DE3A3C08C8B32E8@TRACY>
	<886564.31050.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <FB871E0F14C74C66BEC7ABE31A4E3FE2@MAIN>

My life's worth at least that much, now my passenger?

David R.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Edward Perez" <eap2140 at yahoo.com>
To: "Tracy Drummond" <bighealey at charter.net>; "Peter Caldwell" 
<peter at nosimport.com>; "David Ramsey" <dwramsey at att.net>; "Frank" 
<spritenut at comcast.net>
Cc: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seat belts


> Have you seen what Mo$$ and VB want for them?  Last I looked it was $235 
> for the pair of retractable....

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 09:19:58 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:19:58 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Differentials
In-Reply-To: <285885.88787.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
References: <285885.88787.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906300819s605a9730o90971eb94b25f916@mail.gmail.com>

> Anyone know the coding on the outside of the diff's for specific read-end ratios?

If you are lucky, you will find the numbers that equate to the number
of teeth on the original ring and pinion gears. Simply divide the
larger number by the smaller number to get the ratio. eg: 39/10 =3.90;
38/9=4.22; 41/11=3.73
David L

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 09:22:50 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:22:50 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Differentials
In-Reply-To: <402188520906300819s605a9730o90971eb94b25f916@mail.gmail.com>
References: <285885.88787.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<402188520906300819s605a9730o90971eb94b25f916@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906300822ke7422a5g2e79910204a02430@mail.gmail.com>

>> Anyone know the coding on the outside of the diff's for specific read-end ratios?
>
> If you are lucky, you will find the numbers that equate to the number
> of teeth on the original ring and pinion gears. Simply divide the
> larger number by the smaller number to get the ratio. eg: 39/10 =3.90;
> 38/9=4.22; 41/11=3.73

If it is out of the casing, simply counting the teeth of the pinion
gear will also give you the info you need.
If it is closed, holding one axle from moving while rotating the other
one through two revolutions and counting the turns of the pinion
flange will also give you enough data to determine the ratio.
David L

From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jun 30 09:24:25 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:24:25 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Differentials
In-Reply-To: <402188520906300822ke7422a5g2e79910204a02430@mail.gmail.com>
References: <285885.88787.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>
	<402188520906300819s605a9730o90971eb94b25f916@mail.gmail.com>
	<402188520906300822ke7422a5g2e79910204a02430@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <287B3255-9FF6-4AEF-9707-55D0307311D9@snet.net>

Thanks



On Jun 30, 2009, at 11:22 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:

>>> Anyone know the coding on the outside of the diff's for specific  
>>> read-end ratios?
>>
>> If you are lucky, you will find the numbers that equate to the number
>> of teeth on the original ring and pinion gears. Simply divide the
>> larger number by the smaller number to get the ratio. eg: 39/10  
>> =3.90;
>> 38/9=4.22; 41/11=3.73
>
> If it is out of the casing, simply counting the teeth of the pinion
> gear will also give you the info you need.
> If it is closed, holding one axle from moving while rotating the other
> one through two revolutions and counting the turns of the pinion
> flange will also give you enough data to determine the ratio.
> David L

From bugeye15 at hotmail.com  Tue Jun 30 10:22:39 2009
From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:22:39 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Manifold stud is out!
In-Reply-To: <500835.76091.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <500835.76091.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BLU103-W13BDF77E36184FA65CA3E2C2310@phx.gbl>

Hey Dave,

Didn't see your email yesterday. I was going to ask if you could get 2 nuts
on the stud, then get it out that way. If the threads were too messed up,
I do have some taps and dies that you could borrow.
Glad you got it out.

Brian S.
Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed!



> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:26:37 -0700
> From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Manifold stud is out!
>
> Well, All you apparently have to do is be stubborn enough to not quit and
then
> get beyond caring if you screw up the paint (it's gonna be under the
manifold
> anyway, right?)
>
> I called my friend down the street for moral support, we heated it up till
the
> whole stud was glowing red, then snapped on the biggest vice grips I could
-
> arms shaking with the effort... Then it slowly began to turn and finally
> came out.  I think I'll mount it on a plaque and hang it in the garage.
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions, humor, and encouragement.  This group is
> great.
>
> David Booker
> '71 Midget back on the road to recovery ('till the next roadblock)
> Long Island


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From jfishbein at snet.net  Tue Jun 30 10:27:47 2009
From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:27:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] Differentials & Parts up for Grabs
Message-ID: <454737.76365.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Thanks Ron,

If anyone is interested, I am clearing-out some iron and larger items. If anyone is interested, I want to get rid of:

Vertical Flow radiators,
Early and later Mk II dashboards (With radio cut-outs intact)
wire wheel rear ends,
Lower A arms - needing rebuild
differentials (Ratios to be determined)
Early square body front fenders and hood
1275 emissions engine
1098 engine
lots of HS2 carbs
HS2 heatshields
early and last heater boxes
Midget radio console (70's)
Midget steering wheel (70's)

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Ron Soave <soavero at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Differentials
To: "Jay Fishbein" <jfishbein at snet.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 12:19 PM


It should have the ratio marked on the housing in the same manner as the ring gear, 9/38 is 4.22, 10/39 is 3.9, etc.

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net> wrote:

> From: Jay Fishbein <jfishbein at snet.net>
> Subject: [Spridgets] Differentials
> To: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 10:11 AM
> ANyone know the coding on the outside
> of the diff's for specific read-end ratios?
> 
> Jay Fishbein
> Wallingford, CT 06492
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From bighealey at charter.net  Tue Jun 30 10:32:56 2009
From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 9:32:56 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Differentials
In-Reply-To: <402188520906300819s605a9730o90971eb94b25f916@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090630123256.8V3H8.1068550.root@mp20>

I have a ready to bolt in cleaned up  38/9=4.22 for sale.  Make offer.


---- David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: 
> > Anyone know the coding on the outside of the diff's for specific read-end ratios?
> 
> If you are lucky, you will find the numbers that equate to the number
> of teeth on the original ring and pinion gears. Simply divide the
> larger number by the smaller number to get the ratio. eg: 39/10 =3.90;
> 38/9=4.22; 41/11=3.73
> David L
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From dwramsey at att.net  Tue Jun 30 10:43:01 2009
From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:43:01 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
Message-ID: <20090630164312.C6628187C89@autox.team.net>

Now there is something for Frank, how about a tee shirt with a stripe.
Depending on which side of the car your sitting on you could just reverse
it. Nevada tried to pass that law this year but it failed, however the cops
can always make up a reason to pull you over anyway. My 61 Bug-I has never
had seat belts.
		Crash

Coupla points.....

Crash, literature indicates that in fact, the 1961 Sprite is/was the 
first car to have the soon to be NY State mandated (effective 1962) 
seatbelt anchorages.

Second, here in Westconsin, and I suspect elsewhere, we are enacting 
legislation enabling the confabulatory to be able to pull you over 
strictly for lack of seatbelt. Up until now, they would be able to 
ticket you for no belt if they had otherwise reason to stop you. Now, 
thanks to federal "mandates" tied to highway funding, they can stop 
you for not having a belt. So, I guess we all need to show a shoulder 
belt. I really don't want a shoulder belt, though I religiously wear 
a lap belt in my Mini. And, I REALLY don't want to discuss the 
originality issue at bar time.....

I think I'll be installing a fictitious shoulder belt.

Peter C. 

From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jun 30 10:50:13 2009
From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:50:13 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] MG 2009
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11783.1246374689.20693.spridgets@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.11783.1246374689.20693.spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Returned last night from MG 2009 in Breckenridge, CO.
Had a great time! Beautiful driving roads, great weather and fantastic 
people. What a great place to drive a Spridget!

Drove the Midget up Pike's Peak without a hitch. I was breathing harder 
than the car. On the way down saw a '72 going up. He had all kinds of 
trouble. Fuel pump and starter quit and he had to hold the shifter in 
first gear all the way up. Coasted all the way down. But, he made it. 
Say what you want about the 1500 engine, but the extra torque really 
shines in the mountains.

Met a couple of other list members there. Mark Haynes' '59 Sprite took 
second in "other British" and Larry Macy's '09 Mini took third in the 
same category. I managed to take first place in the rubber bumper 
Midgets and my wife and I were floored when we took second in our 
first-ever TSD rally!

Lee

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun 30 11:30:18 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:30:18 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <20090630164312.C6628187C89@autox.team.net>
References: <20090630164312.C6628187C89@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <4A4A4BAA.8040202@frontiernet.net>

You're on the wrong side of the state.  The last two who stopped me 
never even asked for my driver's license, and I wasn't wearing a belt in 
either case.  One was to advise me that the lights on my horse trailer 
weren't working, but they came back on as we were talking, so he told me 
to have the connection checked when I got home. The other incident was a 
blown headlight on my work van. I showed him the vehicle check list and 
repair order and was on my way. Neither Gary nor I were wearing belts 
when I got my well deserved speeding ticket a few days before he died. I 
had no idea a 4 cylinder Chrysler convertible could go that fast.

Kate


David Ramsey wrote:
> Now there is something for Frank, how about a tee shirt with a stripe.
> Depending on which side of the car your sitting on you could just reverse
> it. Nevada tried to pass that law this year but it failed, however the cops
> can always make up a reason to pull you over anyway. My 61 Bug-I has never
> had seat belts.
> 		Crash

From oldsaabguy at comcast.net  Tue Jun 30 11:39:15 2009
From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:39:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <4A4A4BAA.8040202@frontiernet.net>
References: <20090630164312.C6628187C89@autox.team.net>
	<4A4A4BAA.8040202@frontiernet.net>
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umm.. the obvious answer is that you are an attractive female!  You  
will get away with anything!  ;-)

I out ran one single undercover narcotics agent, just a friendly race  
with no traffic, and I end up in Parish (County) prison..  if only he  
had a faster car.. heh  ;-)

'69 Chrysler New Yorker, 440 ci that had been breathed on..

Lester


On Jun 30, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote:

> You're on the wrong side of the state.  The last two who stopped me  
> never even asked for my driver's license, and I wasn't wearing a  
> belt in either case.  One was to advise me that the lights on my  
> horse trailer weren't working, but they came back on as we were  
> talking, so he told me to have the connection checked when I got  
> home. The other incident was a blown headlight on my work van. I  
> showed him the vehicle check list and repair order and was on my  
> way. Neither Gary nor I were wearing belts when I got my well  
> deserved speeding ticket a few days before he died. I had no idea a  
> 4 cylinder Chrysler convertible could go that fast.
>
> Kate
>
>
> David Ramsey wrote:
>> Now there is something for Frank, how about a tee shirt with a  
>> stripe.
>> Depending on which side of the car your sitting on you could just  
>> reverse
>> it. Nevada tried to pass that law this year but it failed, however  
>> the cops
>> can always make up a reason to pull you over anyway. My 61 Bug-I  
>> has never
>> had seat belts.
>> 		Crash
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From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun 30 11:48:34 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:48:34 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <8E154679-78FF-4D0C-8A55-7B1E07F7462F@comcast.net>
References: <20090630164312.C6628187C89@autox.team.net>
	<4A4A4BAA.8040202@frontiernet.net>
	<8E154679-78FF-4D0C-8A55-7B1E07F7462F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4A4A4FF2.1000005@frontiernet.net>

Thank you, Lester.  You just made my day.  Truthfully, I am a 61 year 
old female, whose hair is beginning to turn grey, and I have wrinkles 
that even the expensive stuff does not hide. I prefer to think of them 
as laugh lines, however.

Kate


Lester wrote:
> umm.. the obvious answer is that you are an attractive female!  You 
> will get away with anything!  ;-)

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 30 11:55:29 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:55:29 +0000
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <8E154679-78FF-4D0C-8A55-7B1E07F7462F@comcast.net>
References: <20090630164312.C6628187C89@autox.team.net>
	<4A4A4BAA.8040202@frontiernet.net> 
	<8E154679-78FF-4D0C-8A55-7B1E07F7462F@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W24B45E1204780EB5C0CA8BB8310@phx.gbl>

What does his marital status have to do with anything?  ;)



RD

( I guess he wasn't undercover after that. )




> From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net
>
> I out ran one single undercover narcotics agent, just a friendly race
> with no traffic, and I end up in Parish (County) prison.. if only he
> had a faster car.. heh ;-)
>
> '69 Chrysler New Yorker, 440 ci that had been breathed on..
>
> Lester

From bogodwin at bellsouth.net  Tue Jun 30 13:03:35 2009
From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:03:35 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .
In-Reply-To: <401519.96757.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <LDEDLPPKNKAGKNFICGALMECFFDAA.bogodwin@bellsouth.net>

Do you have room, and have you tried a small pipe wrench?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of David Booker
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 8:47 PM
To: Kirk Hargreaves; Lester
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net; Paul Asgeirsson
Subject: [Spridgets] Wax Trick didn't work . . .

--- On Mon, 6/29/09, Lester <oldsaabguy at comcast.net> wrote: Idea is to heat
the are to warm enough for wax to melt and wick in.

OK, the garage has a nice Vanilla smell now, but the stud is still there. I
can see how it would work in a lot of instances, but this seems to be too
close a tolerance to happen in this case.

I think my main problem is getting a grip on the now-stripped stud.  My Vice
Grips tend to fall into two categories: The first group are so large that
the
jaws are angled too steeply to grip at this small diameter.  The second
smaller group are good for getting on the stud, but the teeth are too small
to
dig in effectively and the handles are too short to get any torque if I did
get them gripped...  And I cant get enough squeeze on the non-locking pliers
to do anything except further polish the stud.

I really don't trust my ability to cut it off and drill it out by hand.

More ideas?

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From khargreaves2 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 13:14:31 2009
From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:14:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
Message-ID: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com>

I learned something new on this.  I thought that my 59 did not come with
belts.  I guess it would have as belts were just coming into cars around the
mid to late 50's?

My seat belt as a kid was my mothers arm outstretched in front of me when my
dad would come to a quick stop.  Not too effective. . .

The cops out here (Vacaville just outside of Sacramento) do not bother me if
I am not wearing belts. .  as the thought is that the car never came with
them when manufactured.

I wear them anyway. . . not sure they are a lot of protection if you take a
hit in one of our cars.

Kirk

From kgb at frontiernet.net  Tue Jun 30 13:28:43 2009
From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:28:43 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A4A676B.2040104@frontiernet.net>

We are probably safer in our metal cars, than we would be in a modern 
plastic one.  Newer cars are generally totaled following relatively 
minor accidents.

Kate

Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

I wear them anyway. . . not sure they are a lot of protection if you 
take ahit in one of our cars.

Kirk

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun 30 13:37:29 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:37:29 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C66FB789.1F7C1%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

They were optional on many cars in the 50's.
>  I thought that my 59 did not come with
> belts.  I guess it would have as belts were just coming into cars around the
> mid to late 50's?

From heard at datatrontech.net  Tue Jun 30 14:28:58 2009
From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:28:58 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
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Yes, but I think a lot of that is due to the cost of replacing the air bags,
isn't it?

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bales
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:29 PM
Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts

We are probably safer in our metal cars, than we would be in a modern
plastic one.  Newer cars are generally totaled following relatively minor
accidents.

Kate

Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

I wear them anyway. . . not sure they are a lot of protection if you take
ahit in one of our cars.

Kirk
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From richb at u.washington.edu  Tue Jun 30 14:45:20 2009
From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:45:20 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com><4A4A676B.2040104@frontiernet.net>
	<017d01c9f9c1$65bd02e0$1801010a@xp>
Message-ID: <D6BA5438225A40A6B6DA6E86FF209ECA@psych.washington.edu>

Not necessarily.  I left my GEO Tracker idling out in front of the house 
last winter to warm up.  When I came out it had rolled 15 feet into the rear 
bumper of my neighbors new Buick.  It cost $1900+ to replace the cracked 
bumper.  Nothing on new cars is meant to take any impact.  I can't remember 
the source, but I read somewhere that the repair costs of a five mile an 
hour impact to the front of an Acura TL cost over $9000.  The bumper covers 
deflect back into the hood and fenders, so most of the front clip has to be 
replaced.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Heard" <heard at datatrontech.net>
To: <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts


> Yes, but I think a lot of that is due to the cost of replacing the air 
> bags,
> isn't it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bales
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:29 PM
> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
>
> We are probably safer in our metal cars, than we would be in a modern
> plastic one.  Newer cars are generally totaled following relatively minor
> accidents.
>
> Kate
>
> Kirk Hargreaves wrote:
>
> I wear them anyway. . . not sure they are a lot of protection if you take
> ahit in one of our cars.
>
> Kirk
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From bkitterer at me.com  Tue Jun 30 15:15:00 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:15:00 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1117D013-F8A5-42A6-9B7E-CA0BB7AAFD9A@me.com>

Kirk,

Seat belts were not even an option until mandated in 1968.  There were  
some cars that did have them earlier, Volvo and Saab I think.

According to Wilkipedia the first seat belt law was Federal in 1968.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 30, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

> I learned something new on this.  I thought that my 59 did not come  
> with
> belts.  I guess it would have as belts were just coming into cars  
> around the
> mid to late 50's?

From billyzoom at billyzoom.com  Tue Jun 30 15:29:32 2009
From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:29:32 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <1117D013-F8A5-42A6-9B7E-CA0BB7AAFD9A@me.com>
Message-ID: <C66FD1CC.1F7CE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>

> Seat belts were not even an option until mandated in 1968.
Were too!  Lot's of 50's cars offered them. I remember some unusual
mountings and hardware.
http://www.1956goldenhawk.com/ghstory.htm

From john.leier at leier.org  Tue Jun 30 15:30:19 2009
From: john.leier at leier.org (John Leier)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:30:19 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <D6BA5438225A40A6B6DA6E86FF209ECA@psych.washington.edu>
References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com><4A4A676B.2040104@frontiernet.net><017d01c9f9c1$65bd02e0$1801010a@xp>
	<D6BA5438225A40A6B6DA6E86FF209ECA@psych.washington.edu>
Message-ID: <A3929A1B315E46B28FBB271BD4D26DB9@Latitude830>

>  Nothing on new cars is meant to take any impact.

It's designed precisely to take the impact and sacrifice itself for the 
greater good of the passenger  :-)

>> We are probably safer in our metal cars, than we would be in a modern
>> plastic one.  Newer cars are generally totaled following relatively minor
>> accidents.

Not sure I follow this logic.  You're safest when the extremeties of the car 
crush (as long as the passenger compartment remains intact).  Any of the 
energy not absorbed by crumple zones are transmitted to the occupants.  That 
is not a good thing.

Our Spridgets aren't designed to crumple.

Animated explanation at 
http://www.k12.nf.ca/gc/Science/Physics3204/Projects2003/SlotA/ProjectA2/link20.htm

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 15:40:15 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:40:15 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <A3929A1B315E46B28FBB271BD4D26DB9@Latitude830>
References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A4A676B.2040104@frontiernet.net> <017d01c9f9c1$65bd02e0$1801010a@xp>
	<D6BA5438225A40A6B6DA6E86FF209ECA@psych.washington.edu>
	<A3929A1B315E46B28FBB271BD4D26DB9@Latitude830>
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> >It's designed precisely to take the impact and sacrifice itself for the
> greater good of the passenger  :-)
>
John,
You have started believing the hype again. NO, they are designed to
sacrifice themselves for the greater good of the CRASH TEST. Big difference.
When you invest all the time and money into computer modelling for
survivability of a 35mph crash test, you can do an awesome job of making
things so that they absorb that particular impact very well. Now ask
yourself what happens when the actual impact is at 55mph? That same crumple
zone keeps right on crumpling right through those passengers you thought it
was protecting. When you design to a benchmark, you lose a certain amount of
real-world value. I agree that some accidents will leave me more injured in
a Spridget than I would have been in my 2002 GTi. OTOH, other accidents
could kill me in my GTi and leave me injured but alive in my Spridget. No, I
am not interested in doing extensive research in the field; I prefer the
avoidance approach.

BTW, they might not have been intentionally designed as crumple zones, but
take a look at what happens to the front frame rails in a Spridget during a
front end collision and you will find very functional crumple zones.
David L

From bkitterer at me.com  Tue Jun 30 15:55:21 2009
From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:55:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <C66FD1CC.1F7CE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
References: <C66FD1CC.1F7CE%billyzoom@billyzoom.com>
Message-ID: <2DAC4411-562D-4344-8B89-5DCB6D66E562@me.com>

You are correct that a number of cars had or you could install seat  
belts.  My comment was that they were not an option on the Sprite's an  
should have said a factory option.  There were a number of dealers  
that would put in third party belts an I saw some pretty scary  
installations where they just put a bolt through the floor sheet metal  
with a nut on the other side.

Like a lot of folks I was installing belts, from Pep Boys etc, since  
the mid 1950's.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Billy Zoom wrote:

>> Seat belts were not even an option until mandated in 1968.
> Were too!  Lot's of 50's cars offered them. I remember some unusual
> mountings and hardware.
> http://www.1956goldenhawk.com/ghstory.htm

From corvallis at peoplepc.com  Tue Jun 30 15:58:58 2009
From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:58:58 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <1117D013-F8A5-42A6-9B7E-CA0BB7AAFD9A@me.com>
References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9F8D3C60D903410BA6096ADB31227C8D@spider>

Yes; 1967 Volvo 122S, front and back. ...bill in oregon
===================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:15 PM
To: Spridgets
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts

Kirk,

Seat belts were not even an option until mandated in 1968.  There were  
some cars that did have them earlier, Volvo and Saab I think.

According to Wilkipedia the first seat belt law was Federal in 1968.

Bob Kitterer

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
2000 Miata Special Edition

On Jun 30, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote:

> I learned something new on this.  I thought that my 59 did not come  
> with
> belts.  I guess it would have as belts were just coming into cars  
> around the
> mid to late 50's?
_______________________________________________

From peter at nosimport.com  Tue Jun 30 18:08:31 2009
From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:08:31 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <402188520906301440p3a51fa0cl10bb59772c8e19ae@mail.gmail.co
  m>
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At 02:40 PM 6/30/2009, David Lieb wrote:
<Snip, whack, saw, cut....>

>BTW, they might not have been intentionally designed as crumple zones, but
>take a look at what happens to the front frame rails in a Spridget during a
>front end collision and you will find very functional crumple zones.

They straighten out?


ED 

From silaspgumbody at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 16:11:14 2009
From: silaspgumbody at yahoo.com (Silas P. Gumbody)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:11:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <2DAC4411-562D-4344-8B89-5DCB6D66E562@me.com>
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	<2DAC4411-562D-4344-8B89-5DCB6D66E562@me.com>
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AN 5L/26893 had seat belts when new and on the showroom floor in 1960.

From hammack at GotSlack.org  Tue Jun 30 16:12:34 2009
From: hammack at GotSlack.org (Jim Hammack)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:12:34 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <9F8D3C60D903410BA6096ADB31227C8D@spider>
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 16:50:56 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:50:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] stud removal
Message-ID: <803121.54168.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Ed,
What you describe is exactly what eventually worked last night - except that I
only had a propane torch at my disposal, so it took a bit longer to get the
stud glowing.  I borrowed a pair of vice grips from my neighbor as all of mine
were too big or too small or too dull to get the job done. I now see a hole in
my line-up of vice grips that I'll have to fill in...
 
 - David Booker


--- On Tue, 6/30/09, Fisher, Ed <edwd at ti.com> wrote:


From: Fisher, Ed <edwd at ti.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] stud removal
To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 6:56 AM


When nothing else has worked, I have had great success with Kano Labs
Sili-Kroil.  You can google it and find a thousand sources.  It takes some
time to penetrate, as in days sometimes, but just a couple of drops from the
red spray tip extender will find its way into the threads.  They have great
testimonials from folks that work on trains, big machinery in field
applications, etc.  It has worked for me repeatedly.  If that does not work,
I
apply heat with an oxy-acetylene torch, to keep it nice and localized, and
apply a brand new pair of Vise-Grip pliers with the knurled ends on the jaw
nice and sharp and use this for twisting.  I use a ridiculous amount of force
to get the jaws to finally 'click' and lock and then have at it.  A large
pair
of channel locks will turn the Vise-Grips themselves.  If you have enough
room, the sharper teeth near the pivot point of 'needle nosed' Vise Grips
(the
larger variety) really clamp well and bite into the offending piece.  These
can then be tapped with a hammer and the shock force helps to break things
free.  I have used all of these methods, sometimes in concert, and sometimes
over and over again, but have always gotten frozen bolts out, and
yes-manifold
studs too.  You are doing exactly the right thing getting opinions and
approaches before shredding what is left with dull tools, or resulting to the
last resort, in my opinion, drilling.  I really am not that skilled with a
drill at an angle.

All the best,

Ed Fisher
Dallas, Tx
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From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 16:53:37 2009
From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:53:37 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] stud removal
Message-ID: <80134.10761.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've been very surprised that it took this long for someone to make THAT
association...

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
wrote:


From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca <robertduquette at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] stud removal
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets at autox.team.net>
Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 7:19 AM


Phew!



I read that subject line and thought that I was being kicked off the list.
;)
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From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 30 16:57:26 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:57:26 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <402188520906301440p3a51fa0cl10bb59772c8e19ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com><4A4A676B.2040104@frontiernet.net>
	<017d01c9f9c1$65bd02e0$1801010a@xp><D6BA5438225A40A6B6DA6E86FF209ECA@psych.washington.edu><A3929A1B315E46B28FBB271BD4D26DB9@Latitude830>
	<402188520906301440p3a51fa0cl10bb59772c8e19ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP6355969F469259AF0CA013B8310@phx.gbl>

Ah!  So that's why they have a slight upward curve?  ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: David Lieb


BTW, they might not have been intentionally designed as crumple zones, but
take a look at what happens to the front frame rails in a Spridget during a
front end collision and you will find very functional crumple zones.
David L

From soavero at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 30 17:15:32 2009
From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
Message-ID: <60902.59437.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

--- On Tue, 6/30/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
> John,
> You have started believing the hype again. NO, they are
> designed to
> sacrifice themselves for the greater good of the CRASH
> TEST. Big difference.

I'm with John, big time. See what Tim says....

Ron

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Jun 30 17:38:21 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:38:21 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China....
Message-ID: <4A4A3F7D.8030.20A9A65@kk7ss.verizon.net>

I'm going to have to forget travelling in Europe...
2 Airbus crashes and now this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8114464.stm

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From pythias at pacifier.com  Tue Jun 30 17:45:37 2009
From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:45:37 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
In-Reply-To: <200906300614524.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>
References: <4A49799C.4090407@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <1945105358.20090630164537@pacifier.com>

Hello Peter,

      The general rule is that they cannot make you retrofit safety
      equipment. As someone else stated the first FEDERAL law was took
      effect in 1968,.... BUT.....

      Here in Washington State, any car sold after January 1st, 1964
      was required to be fitted with seat belts. In the same
      legislation, it stated that any car sold in another locality not
      so equipped was to be given 60 days (or is it 30) to have them
      installed. Interesting enough, all the laws dealing with child
      safety seats reference the laws about seat belts, so, if you are
      driving a child in car that was not originally required to have
      seat belts, you don't have to use a child safety seat!

      Our seat belt law was originally a secondary offense, just like,
      apparently Westconsin, but now they can pull you over if they
      determine that you aren't wearing one. I've never had a problem
      with just lap belts in the Sprite.

      As a side note, talking on a cell phone in a car is required to
      be  done using a hands free device, but it too passed as a
      secondary offense.... It won't be long before it too becomes a
      reason to pull ya over..

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias at pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I get in through the window after opening it with this crowbar," said Tom enterprisingly.

From 72spridget at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 18:28:55 2009
From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:28:55 -0500
Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts
In-Reply-To: <60902.59437.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <60902.59437.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <402188520906301728o2eb32f27paad47e23d9822dfe@mail.gmail.com>

> I'm with John, big time. See what Tim says....
>
And you are welcome to. All I am saying is that the same crumple zone that
has been carefully engineered to protect you in a 35mph crash is exactly
what I want in a 35mph crash, but NOT what I want in a 55mph crash. The
crumpling does not necessarily stop where you would want it to.
David L

From robertduquette at sympatico.ca  Tue Jun 30 18:30:41 2009
From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:30:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics!
In-Reply-To: <29873754.8365261245807890218.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
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I dunno about that.  My fiat spider went top down at least once every month
that I owned it, including January and February.

This spring I have seen at least a few Miatas driving in a light rain with
their side windows up and the top down.

-----Original Message-----

Jim Johnson wrote: 
> Ummmm.... What's a "top"?? 
> 
> 
> 
That is that black thing you always see on Fiats and Miatas. 


-- 
Frank Clarici 
Toms River, NJ 
My own Fleet of Sprites 

From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Jun 30 20:21:12 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:21:12 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China....
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV7FA406AADCE26FC27A7FEC82E0@phx.gbl>

Smart move on Airbus' part considering the problem they're having making market share with their new super-heavy.

But have no fear....for I've a funny feeling Boeing among many other US companies may very well  be leaving for China in due course themselves. :)

BTW...Airbus has been the main subject on the many pilot lists I belong to insofar as  carbon fibre technology/construction is utilized on aircraft with "long arms" eminating from their center of gravity wherein the ability of metal to "flex" or "bend" may in fact be the greater strength.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave G.
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:38 PM
To: spridgets at autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China....

I'm going to have to forget travelling in Europe...
2 Airbus crashes and now this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8114464.stm

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!
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From pilotrob at webtv.net  Tue Jun 30 20:27:03 2009
From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:27:03 GMT
Subject: [Spridgets] Seat belts
Message-ID: <BAY118-DAV2C7A0D082994B8758AFE7C82E0@phx.gbl>

"It won't be long before it to will become a reason to pull ya over"

And a good one at that IMHO as division of mental attention (distraction) is one of the primary causes of transportation accidents.

Cap'n. Bob      '60 :{)

From spritenut at comcast.net  Tue Jun 30 20:47:20 2009
From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:47:20 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China....
In-Reply-To: <BAY118-DAV7FA406AADCE26FC27A7FEC82E0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY118-DAV7FA406AADCE26FC27A7FEC82E0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <4A4ACE38.4060600@comcast.net>

Robert E. Shlafer wrote:
> Smart move on Airbus' part considering the problem they're having making market share with their new super-heavy.
>
> But have no fear....for I've a funny feeling Boeing among many other US companies may very well  be leaving for China in due course themselves. :)
>
>   
I will not use a chinese part on any of my cars because it's all crap.
So I guess I will not be flying when Boeing moves to china.
No frets, we all know the chinese planes will either not work from the 
get-go or fail miserably from dung forged metal as soon as it hits a few 
hundred feet of altitude.
Come on, they can't make friggin dog food, did you see their car crash 
tests? Budweiser makes a stronger can than the chinese make cars.
I now have to replace most of my power and air tools for work annually 
as DeWalt is now all chinese as is most other name brands.
So I buy 2 of them and when one dies, I use the receipt with the newest 
date and tell the store to get me the asshole who made it, I want to 
show him something.
But that doesn't happen so I get my money back. 3rd trim nailer in 2 
years now, but I only paid for 2, and the 3rd will get replaced before 
the year is out.
Chink-Walt can eat em, I don't care anymore.
They play games, so do I.

From dlh2001 at comcast.net  Tue Jun 30 22:11:41 2009
From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 00:11:41 -0400
Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China....
References: <BAY118-DAV7FA406AADCE26FC27A7FEC82E0@phx.gbl>
	<4A4ACE38.4060600@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20D7072A926B454D8B451F71800D84E4@blackbox2>

Ok, Ok, Frank.  You've gone too far.

I have no problems with your comments regarding the quality of Chinese goods.

But don't dis the dung forge man.
I once straightened out a bent Lotus Europa lower control arm with a makeshift dung forge
and I was quite proud of the results.

One day, you may find yourself broken down with a bent A-frame in the neather reaches of this earth
and all you may find is a dung forge. And you know what? You will be thankful that it is there. 
I can only hope and pray you will know how to use it.

Remember it's not the dung forge, it's the man stoking it that makes all the difference. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank" <spritenut at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Made in China....


> So I guess I will not be flying when Boeing moves to china.
> No frets, we all know the chinese planes will either not work from the 
> get-go or fail miserably from dung forged metal as soon as it hits a few 
> hundred feet of altitude.

From kk7ss at verizon.net  Tue Jun 30 23:05:55 2009
From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:05:55 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China....
In-Reply-To: <20D7072A926B454D8B451F71800D84E4@blackbox2>
References: <BAY118-DAV7FA406AADCE26FC27A7FEC82E0@phx.gbl>,
	<20D7072A926B454D8B451F71800D84E4@blackbox2>
Message-ID: <4A4A8C43.19526.8CAB9C@kk7ss.verizon.net>

There's *got* to be a good story behind that line....  Soo  ???

On 1 Jul 2009 at 0:11, Dean Hedin wrote:

>> I once straightened out a bent Lotus Europa lower control arm with a
>> makeshift dung forge

--
Dave G.   KK7SS
'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA

If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still 
alive !!

From wmgilroy at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 23:27:35 2009
From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:27:35 -0700
Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China....
In-Reply-To: <4A4ACE38.4060600@comcast.net>
References: <BAY118-DAV7FA406AADCE26FC27A7FEC82E0@phx.gbl>
	<4A4ACE38.4060600@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <441250190906302227v30cea7as26b552f9608ff80@mail.gmail.com>

While I can't speak for all tools, but if you want a grinder that will last
get a Flex Grinder <http://www.flexnorthamerica.com/naturalstone.html>.
They are about $180 new, but they don't break.  If you can find them in pawn
shops snap it up.  In this case you pay for quality and you get quality.

Bill

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Frank <spritenut at comcast.net> wrote:

>
> I now have to replace most of my power and air tools for work annually as
> DeWalt is now all chinese as is most other name brands.
> So I buy 2 of them and when one dies, I use the receipt with the newest
> date and tell the store to get me the asshole who made it, I want to show
> him something.
> But that doesn't happen so I get my money back. 3rd trim nailer in 2 years
> now, but I only paid for 2, and the 3rd will get replaced before the year
is
> out.
> Chink-Walt can eat em, I don't care anymore.
> They play games, so do I.
>
>

--
Their mythology starts with the false premise that these are irreplaceable
geniuses

Andrew Cuomo speaking about AIG executives