From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 1 03:50:41 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:50:41 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China.... Message-ID: "They play games and so do I" Hey... you're preaching to the choir my friend... I'm not the one running the place into the ground.....and neither are you. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 1 03:58:02 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:58:02 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics! Message-ID: Which it what I love about tonneau covers. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Robert Duquette Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:30 PM To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics! I dunno about that. My fiat spider went top down at least once every month that I owned it, including January and February. This spring I have seen at least a few Miatas driving in a light rain with their side windows up and the top down. -----Original Message----- Jim Johnson wrote: > Ummmm.... What's a "top"?? > > > That is that black thing you always see on Fiats and Miatas. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ggroiss at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 06:03:57 2009 From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:03:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You think the stuff they send here is bad. My cousin lived in China for 2 years and told me they export their good stuff. He purchased a package of paper disposable cups there and after 10 min they would start to leak. Guess you they expect you to drink fast. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > "They play games and so do I" > > Hey... > > you're preaching to the choir my friend... > I'm not the one running the place into the ground.....and neither are you. > > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ggroiss at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jul 1 06:47:47 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 07:47:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts In-Reply-To: <402188520906301440p3a51fa0cl10bb59772c8e19ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com> <4A4A676B.2040104@frontiernet.net> <017d01c9f9c1$65bd02e0$1801010a@xp> <402188520906301440p3a51fa0cl10bb59772c8e19ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5186A27E-BCE7-4C84-9D9D-F361ED84BE0A@comcast.net> David I would strongly disagree, having spoken to CEO's of SAAB some retired and some not I can tell you that safety has been a VERY big thing for a long time. Even in the 70's when the SAAB CEO went to visit the Mercedes test facility the director showed him all the wrecks that Mercedes had used for testing and remarked that they, SAAB and Volvo were leading in safety testing for consumers. I will certainly grant you that the "star" rating method is solely for the benefit of a test barrier but to say that a modern car is less safe than a Bugeye in any direction is absurd. Those crumple zones are progressive and will take an enormous load. Granted they will "total" cars frequently (That is an insurance term ) but folks walk away unscathed. And for speeds much above 50 IIRC nothing short of a tank will keep you alive in a head on, there is just too much energy involved. If you are remarking on the Bugeye ability to get out of the way of an accident then your argument is driver and situation dependent. While it may be true in some circumstances it's like saying that a seat belt is only there to make it easy for EMS to find the body.. Lester On Jun 30, 2009, at 4:40 PM, David Lieb wrote: >>> It's designed precisely to take the impact and sacrifice itself >>> for the >> greater good of the passenger :-) >> > John, > You have started believing the hype again. NO, they are designed to > sacrifice themselves for the greater good of the CRASH TEST. Big > difference. > When you invest all the time and money into computer modelling for > survivability of a 35mph crash test, you can do an awesome job of > making > things so that they absorb that particular impact very well. Now ask > yourself what happens when the actual impact is at 55mph? That same > crumple > zone keeps right on crumpling right through those passengers you > thought it > was protecting. When you design to a benchmark, you lose a certain > amount of > real-world value. I agree that some accidents will leave me more > injured in > a Spridget than I would have been in my 2002 GTi. OTOH, other > accidents > could kill me in my GTi and leave me injured but alive in my > Spridget. No, I > am not interested in doing extensive research in the field; I prefer > the > avoidance approach. > > BTW, they might not have been intentionally designed as crumple > zones, but > take a look at what happens to the front frame rails in a Spridget > during a > front end collision and you will find very functional crumple zones. > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jul 1 08:02:59 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:02:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China.... In-Reply-To: <4A4A8C43.19526.8CAB9C@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <20D7072A926B454D8B451F71800D84E4@blackbox2> <4A4A8C43.19526.8CAB9C@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <88CE9CB80B38402D90F99E2248E20682@Home> >I once straightened out a bent Lotus Europa lower control arm with a >makeshift dung forge We have a small garden tool made for us while we watched by the last traditional blacksmith in Fujian Province. His wife was the primary power source. He held the piece and tapped it daintily with a small hammer between massive blows from a BMF maul wielded by his wife. She was more impressive than he. Michael Rowe From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 09:19:34 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 08:19:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China.... References: <4A4ACE38.4060600@comcast.net> <441250190906302227v30cea7as26b552f9608ff80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: But, but Bill? You kept telling me how impressed you were with my cheap china bench grinder at the NOSHIT in May. Especially it's ability to come to a complete stop while wire brushing rusty bolts. You're giving us mixed signals. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gilroy" To: "Frank" Cc: ; "Robert E. Shlafer" Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Made in China.... > While I can't speak for all tools, but if you want a grinder that will > last > get a Flex Grinder . > They are about $180 new, but they don't break. If you can find them in > pawn > shops snap it up. In this case you pay for quality and you get quality. > > Bill > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Frank wrote: > >> >> I now have to replace most of my power and air tools for work annually as >> DeWalt is now all chinese as is most other name brands. >> So I buy 2 of them and when one dies, I use the receipt with the newest >> date and tell the store to get me the asshole who made it, I want to show >> him something. >> But that doesn't happen so I get my money back. 3rd trim nailer in 2 >> years >> now, but I only paid for 2, and the 3rd will get replaced before the year > is >> out. >> Chink-Walt can eat em, I don't care anymore. >> They play games, so do I. >> >> > > -- > Their mythology starts with the false premise that these are > irreplaceable > geniuses > > Andrew Cuomo speaking about AIG executives > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mikey at b2systems.com Wed Jul 1 11:49:50 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:49:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1246470590.4492.148.camel@WebBrowser> Not everyone who owns a FIAT drives with the top up. I put 233,000 miles on my FIAT 124 in 34 years and I bet less than 10,000 miles total were with the top up. My FIAT Dino has not had the top in the 7 years I have owned. Last time it was up was during the test push (it barely ran but did not really require pushing) My 53 Singer did not have a top, so all 55,000 miles were top down. I have 13,000 miles on my Honda S2000 and I bet way less than 1,000 miles are with the top up and that includes 2 weeks in the really cold snow. Now Miata's ok...but they don't want to mess their hair up. I take the convertible top down lifestyle after my mother who owned a Sunbeam Tiger (a real tiger) in Needles, Calif. in the early 70s (with no AC) and had the top removed to get a little bit extra space. And I do wish I could find a tonneau for the S2000. mike On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 09:58 +0000, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > Which it what I love about tonneau covers. > > Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Duquette > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:30 PM > To: 'Spridgets' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now that it's a driver - Pics! > > I dunno about that. My fiat spider went top down at least once every month > that I owned it, including January and February. > > This spring I have seen at least a few Miatas driving in a light rain with > their side windows up and the top down. > > -----Original Message----- > > Jim Johnson wrote: > > Ummmm.... What's a "top"?? > > > > > > > That is that black thing you always see on Fiats and Miatas. From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 12:01:01 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:01:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Austin London cabs for auction in Seattle area Message-ID: <6758EE7D2A2040F2A2910C0D6B2BFE2C@psych.washington.edu> Whitey's vehicle auction yard in Pacific, Washington (Southeast of Seattle) has a '76 and a '77 Austin London Cabs listed in their catalog for the July 12th auction. Click on the link and scroll down about half way. NFI. http://www.whiteysauction.com/gallery/pacific/pacific_preview.php Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From haynes386 at netzero.net Wed Jul 1 13:54:22 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 19:54:22 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts Message-ID: <20090701.135422.27826.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> My first car ('59 Volvo Amazon 4 dr) had three point belts from the factory. That doesn't mean that they were easy to use, since they didn't retract, but I used them none the less-won't drive without some sort of belt, they've saved me two many times. Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Click now for prescreened plumbing contractors. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxcruPDGafQXUlkI3AuQF6Ihb 6frfAR2lXHOgwoPJDPOmMujuOMPZ2/ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 1 16:34:11 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:34:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts In-Reply-To: <5186A27E-BCE7-4C84-9D9D-F361ED84BE0A@comcast.net> References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com> <4A4A676B.2040104@frontiernet.net> <017d01c9f9c1$65bd02e0$1801010a@xp> <402188520906301440p3a51fa0cl10bb59772c8e19ae@mail.gmail.com> <5186A27E-BCE7-4C84-9D9D-F361ED84BE0A@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A4BE463.7070105@comcast.net> Lester wrote: > but to say that a modern car is less safe than a Bugeye in any > direction is absurd. I said this before and I'll say it again. 1955 Packard vs a 2009 Hyundai One is old, one is new, one has no crumple zones, one does. But I bet the Packard keeps on going like he just hit a speed bump when it runs over the modern crumpled plastic car. My son is expecting his first born, he went out and bought a Morris Minor so he can tote the kid and all the crap that goes with babies in a real car. Yes he has a modern 07 VW but it's all plastic and he wants his child to be safe, so he bought a real car, 1967 Morris Minor Traveler. He will install seat belts too. I gave him the Bugeye child seat so he can have a spot for the kid in the Sprite, he has to figure out a seat belt for that but like my dad did with me, a quick brace with his arm kept me from knocking my teeth out on the metal dash of the 60 chevy. From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 1 16:40:22 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:40:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Car from England Message-ID: <4A4BE5D6.9020804@comcast.net> Anybody in NW England that might be able to help a friend? Email Christopher Meccia if you can assist. Frank, I have a car that I am interested in purchasing. The only glitch is that it is located in England (in the Northwest). I recall that you mentioned someone you knew in England through the 'Sprite' connection. I am enquiring to see if that individual - or anyone you may know - would be willing to look at the car if the distance is convenient. Christopher From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 1 16:52:24 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:52:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com><4A4A676B.2040104@frontiernet.net> <017d01c9f9c1$65bd02e0$1801010a@xp><402188520906301440p3a51fa0cl10bb59772c8e19ae@mail.gmail.com><5186A27E-BCE7-4C84-9D9D-F361ED84BE0A@comcast.net> <4A4BE463.7070105@comcast.net> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Lester" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 5:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts . My son is expecting his first born, he went out and bought a Morris Minor so he can tote the kid and all the crap that goes with babies in a real car. ============================= So Frank, are you going to be a first time grandpa? Congrats, either way. LAD From bkitterer at me.com Wed Jul 1 17:39:26 2009 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:39:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts In-Reply-To: <4A4BE463.7070105@comcast.net> References: <37dc82d40906301214q7cd83509i4a2a05d32e984f58@mail.gmail.com> <4A4A676B.2040104@frontiernet.net> <017d01c9f9c1$65bd02e0$1801010a@xp> <402188520906301440p3a51fa0cl10bb59772c8e19ae@mail.gmail.com> <5186A27E-BCE7-4C84-9D9D-F361ED84BE0A@comcast.net> <4A4BE463.7070105@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank, As much as I like old cars I am sorry but this is not good logic. Basic physics tells you that mass will dominate but not that it will protect you. If you take two of the Packards in a head on collision at 60 mph I will bet that you will find engines in the passenger compartments , steering columns in the drivers chest an the passenger half way through the fixed windshield. I use to have a Honda 600 an while waiting to make a turn my wife was tail ended by a car doing 45 mph. The collision sent her across three lanes, up a 10 inch curb, into the the dock bumper of a parked 3/4 ton pick up which got moved into the car park next to it. My wife opened the door got out with minor bruises and cuts plus all the car windows were in tack - - - thanks to crumple zones. I do not care for Nader but do agree save the passenger the hell with the car. The VW is safer. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 1, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Frank wrote: > I said this before and I'll say it again. > 1955 Packard vs a 2009 Hyundai > One is old, one is new, one has no crumple zones, one does. > But I bet the Packard keeps on going like he just hit a speed bump > when it runs over the modern crumpled plastic car. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Jul 1 18:35:53 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:35:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China.... References: , <20D7072A926B454D8B451F71800D84E4@blackbox2> <4A4A8C43.19526.8CAB9C@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." > There's *got* to be a good story behind that line.... Soo ??? > > On 1 Jul 2009 at 0:11, Dean Hedin wrote: > >>> I once straightened out a bent Lotus Europa lower control arm with a >>> makeshift dung forge I lied, but only a little. It was my eldest brother's Lotus. We (my father, my brother, and I) rigged up a forge out of an old metal milk crate, an AC blower, and a bag of Kingsford charcoal. I think my brother hit a curb or something. Dried cow dung could have easility replaced the Kingsford... From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 18:40:57 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:40:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts Message-ID: <921288.41351.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Ron Soave wrote: > energy. Moral here is to hit a glancing blow or an immovable > object. Err, make that "movable." Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 1 19:04:04 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts Message-ID: <571409.71047.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> *** DISCLAIMER *** I DRIVE AN ALFA WITH LAP BELTS DAILY AND A SPRITE WITH LAP BELTS OTHERWISE, SO TAKE THE BELOW AS KNOWLEDGE I DON'T ALWAYS APPLY. I ALSO USED TO SMOKE AND I SOMETIMES RUN WITH SCISSORS Bob's argument is very valid. In the Traveler vs. the Golf, when it gets hit, hardly any energy is absorbed. So if you're going, say, 40 mph, when the Traveller is hit you decelerate at the same rate as the car, and you're traveling 40 mph into whatever you hit in the car in the secondary impact (that's what will likely kill you). With crumple zones, the car decelerates more gradually, and the energy is dissipated in several things rather than just you. With modern seatbelts and airbags, you are also decelerated and are now going slower when you hit something going slower, if you can follow that. As far as a head on collision, believe it or not it's the same as a single car hitting an immovable object. Twice the energy in the collision taken by twice as many vehicles in head on, vs. all the energy of the single car taking all the energy. Moral here is to hit a glancing blow or an immovable object. On the track, hitting pea gravel head on is your friend as it slows you down while maintaining some control. Sideways can make you roll. Somewhere Flounder has an example on the Thicko website of me performing a nice headfirst pea gravel dive. Ron --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Frank, > > As much as I like old cars I am sorry but this is not good > logic. Basic physics tells you that mass will dominate > but not that it will protect you. If you take two of > the Packards in a head on collision at 60 mph I will bet > that you will find engines in the passenger compartments , > steering columns in the drivers chest an the passenger half > way through the fixed windshield. > > I use to have a Honda 600 an while waiting to make a turn > my wife was tail ended by a car doing 45 mph. The collision > sent her across three lanes, up a 10 inch curb, into the the > dock bumper of a parked 3/4 ton pick up which got > moved into the car park next to it. My wife opened the > door got out with minor bruises and cuts plus all the car > windows were in tack - - - thanks to crumple zones. 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See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! Mail. Click on Options in Mail and switch to New Mail today or register for free at http://mail.yahoo.ca From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 1 19:57:51 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:57:51 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts Message-ID: You meant to say "Moral here is to hit a MOVEABLE object" I ass-u-me? :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 9:04 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts *** DISCLAIMER *** I DRIVE AN ALFA WITH LAP BELTS DAILY AND A SPRITE WITH LAP BELTS OTHERWISE, SO TAKE THE BELOW AS KNOWLEDGE I DON'T ALWAYS APPLY. I ALSO USED TO SMOKE AND I SOMETIMES RUN WITH SCISSORS Bob's argument is very valid. In the Traveler vs. the Golf, when it gets hit, hardly any energy is absorbed. So if you're going, say, 40 mph, when the Traveller is hit you decelerate at the same rate as the car, and you're traveling 40 mph into whatever you hit in the car in the secondary impact (that's what will likely kill you). With crumple zones, the car decelerates more gradually, and the energy is dissipated in several things rather than just you. With modern seatbelts and airbags, you are also decelerated and are now going slower when you hit something going slower, if you can follow that. As far as a head on collision, believe it or not it's the same as a single car hitting an immovable object. Twice the energy in the collision taken by twice as many vehicles in head on, vs. all the energy of the single car taking all the energy. Moral here is to hit a glancing blow or an immovable object. On the track, hitting pea gravel head on is your friend as it slows you down while maintaining some control. Sideways can make you roll. Somewhere Flounder has an example on the Thicko website of me performing a nice headfirst pea gravel dive. Ron --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Frank, > > As much as I like old cars I am sorry but this is not good > logic. Basic physics tells you that mass will dominate > but not that it will protect you. If you take two of > the Packards in a head on collision at 60 mph I will bet > that you will find engines in the passenger compartments , > steering columns in the drivers chest an the passenger half > way through the fixed windshield. > > I use to have a Honda 600 an while waiting to make a turn > my wife was tail ended by a car doing 45 mph. The collision > sent her across three lanes, up a 10 inch curb, into the the > dock bumper of a parked 3/4 ton pick up which got > moved into the car park next to it. My wife opened the > door got out with minor bruises and cuts plus all the car > windows were in tack - - - thanks to crumple zones. You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 1 19:58:38 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:58:38 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts Message-ID: Uh, huh. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 8:40 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 58 -67 Lap Belts --- On Wed, 7/1/09, Ron Soave wrote: > energy. Moral here is to hit a glancing blow or an immovable > object. Err, make that "movable." Ron You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 1 21:12:05 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:12:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China.... In-Reply-To: References: , <20D7072A926B454D8B451F71800D84E4@blackbox2> <4A4A8C43.19526.8CAB9C@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4A4C2585.4070203@comcast.net> Dean Hedin wrote: > > > I lied, but only a little. It was my eldest brother's Lotus. We (my > father, my brother, and I) rigged up a forge > out of an old metal milk crate, an AC blower, and a bag of Kingsford > charcoal. > > > But not DUNG! At least you used charcoal and not what the chinese use. Cow shit and rice patties. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jul 1 21:17:24 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:17:24 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Urgent Message Message-ID: Yep.... ......they've "come a long way, baby" for sure. :) CB ============================ hey the scammers are getting better at learning the language. Only a few typos and grammar issues!! ============================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Shlafer " pilotrob @ webtv .net Guys.... I'm busy bonding with my cat so cannot take advantage of this once in a lifetime golden opportunity. It's all your's . :) Cap'n . Bob '60 :{) ============================ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 22:03:48 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:03:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Urgent Message In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0907012103y5976a2d4w6b660284c101415@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > Guys.... > > I'm busy bonding with my cat so cannot take advantage of this once in a > lifetime > golden opportunity. It's all your's. :) Please. Keep your perversions to yourself! ED From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jul 1 22:03:24 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:03:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye Message-ID: <8DF2B9D0972D4AFB9B52489985C3DCE5@HP> Ebay # 180375541853 OK, please look at this bugeye and list what is wrong with it, you guys are the best at finding all the crap that is not right ;-) A friend is trying to buy it. Larry Miller From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 1 22:21:29 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:21:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye In-Reply-To: <8DF2B9D0972D4AFB9B52489985C3DCE5@HP> Message-ID: The engine's red. From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed Jul 1 22:26:25 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 21:26:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: <8DF2B9D0972D4AFB9B52489985C3DCE5@HP> Message-ID: <4333f8140907012126r72aa6b0dk7f10c98c0a1769d3@mail.gmail.com> Larry, It can't possibly start. There's no starter cable. Hal On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > The engine's red. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grday at btinternet.com Thu Jul 2 00:33:45 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 07:33:45 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye References: <8DF2B9D0972D4AFB9B52489985C3DCE5@HP> <4333f8140907012126r72aa6b0dk7f10c98c0a1769d3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Tin worm under a cosmetic blue cover? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Faulkner" To: "Billy Zoom" Cc: "Spridget" ; "Bugeye" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:26 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye > Larry, > It can't possibly start. There's no starter cable. > Hal > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Billy Zoom > wrote: > >> The engine's red. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 00:54:20 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:54:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China.... In-Reply-To: References: <4A4ACE38.4060600@comcast.net> <441250190906302227v30cea7as26b552f9608ff80@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190907012354g783d0bc8t3cbd632163258d19@mail.gmail.com> Impress yes, but only because I got a chuckle when that thing slowed down. You could hear it wind down the second you applied pressure. -g On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 8:19 AM, Richard Ball wrote: > But, but Bill? You kept telling me how impressed you were with my cheap > china bench grinder at the NOSHIT in May. Especially it's ability to come > to a complete stop while wire brushing rusty bolts. You're giving us mixed > signals. > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gilroy" > To: "Frank" > Cc: ; "Robert E. Shlafer" > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Made in China.... > > > While I can't speak for all tools, but if you want a grinder that will >> last >> get a Flex Grinder . >> >> They are about $180 new, but they don't break. If you can find them in >> pawn >> shops snap it up. In this case you pay for quality and you get quality. >> >> Bill >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Frank wrote: >> >> >>> I now have to replace most of my power and air tools for work annually as >>> DeWalt is now all chinese as is most other name brands. >>> So I buy 2 of them and when one dies, I use the receipt with the newest >>> date and tell the store to get me the asshole who made it, I want to show >>> him something. >>> But that doesn't happen so I get my money back. 3rd trim nailer in 2 >>> years >>> now, but I only paid for 2, and the 3rd will get replaced before the year >>> >> is >> >>> out. >>> Chink-Walt can eat em, I don't care anymore. >>> They play games, so do I. >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Their mythology starts with the false premise that these are >> irreplaceable >> geniuses >> Andrew Cuomo speaking about AIG executives >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> >> > -- Their mythology starts with the false premise that these are irreplaceable geniuses Andrew Cuomo speaking about AIG executives From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jul 2 02:57:13 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 03:57:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye In-Reply-To: <8DF2B9D0972D4AFB9B52489985C3DCE5@HP> References: <8DF2B9D0972D4AFB9B52489985C3DCE5@HP> Message-ID: <883A26E46C6E4B58B31E03C97079DB63@CatheyBPC> Engine is red, wrong valve cover cap. no starter cable, wrong plug wires, cheap hose clamps, overflow tubes have been cut off, plastic dashpot plunger caps, wrong master cylinder cap, missing front bumper,wrong heater inlet tube, wrong shade of blue, piping on seats looks to be white instead of blue, missing "cooper" stickers on air cleaners, no "Smiths" tag on heater box. The motor is probably a 1098:) Ahhhhh such flaws...tsk, tsk, tsh...... Leo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Spridget" ; "Bugeye" Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:03 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye > Ebay # 180375541853 > > OK, please look at this bugeye and list what is wrong with it, you guys > are the best at finding all the crap that is not right ;-) > > A friend is trying to buy it. > > Larry Miller > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu Jul 2 07:21:34 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 06:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] CA Car Show Message-ID: <560548.33686.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I was searching images to check a part detail this morning and found this album from Yolo County Fairgrounds, CA in May. Some interesting cars to enjoy. John Fogelsville, PA http://tinyurl.com/kofylt From bpazur at excel.net Thu Jul 2 08:44:19 2009 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 09:44:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline Message-ID: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> I was just talking to a very knowledgeable lister who said that the cause of my missing, spitting, bucking problem could very well be old gasoline. He says modern gas loses its power very quickly. I am going to find out this evening when I drain the tank and put in fresh gas. A lot of the gas in my tank is old (last summer). He says Stabil doesn't help. He also said I should try to find premium without ethanol. This is increasingly hard to do these days. I wonder if other listers are concerned about this, and take steps like timing, additives, a bit of racing gas, etc. Thanks again, very knowledgeable lister!!! Bud Pazur From jdinnis at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 09:00:49 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:00:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline In-Reply-To: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> Message-ID: I agree old gas can be a problem. From my experience the worst situation is gas that is left exposed to the air for extended periods of time. I have has six month old gas in my motorcycle get all brown and nasty, but gas in my sealed jerry can is fine almost a year later. I also don't believe in Stabil. Ever since they were bought by Eagle their product seems to have gone downhill. I find that Seafoam works well as a fuel stabilizer, it still has limits. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Bud Pazur wrote: > I was just talking to a very knowledgeable lister who said that the cause of > my missing, spitting, bucking problem could very well be old gasoline. He > says modern gas loses its power very quickly. I am going to find out this > evening when I drain the tank and put in fresh gas. A lot of the gas in my > tank is old (last summer). He says Stabil doesn't help. > > He also said I should try to find premium without ethanol. This is > increasingly hard to do these days. I wonder if other listers are concerned > about this, and take steps like timing, additives, a bit of racing gas, etc. > > Thanks again, very knowledgeable lister!!! > > Bud Pazur > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 2 09:12:39 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline Message-ID: <873260.56578.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> New gas certainly can't hurt, but I'll offer a data point to the contrary. I park one of my cars in Florida at our vacation location. I use it for 1 to 2 weeks per year. I use Stabil in the tank. I fill the tank each year before I go home. It starts first time, every time for the past 8 years. Engine is bone-stock. Find the intake leak. --- On Thu, 7/2/09, Bud Pazur wrote: > From: Bud Pazur > Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 9:44 AM > I was just talking to a very > knowledgeable lister who said that the cause of > my missing, spitting, bucking problem could very well be > old gasoline. He > says modern gas loses its power very quickly. I am going to > find out this > evening when I drain the tank and put in fresh gas. A lot > of the gas in my > tank is old (last summer). He says Stabil doesn't help. > > He also said I should try to find premium without ethanol. > This is > increasingly hard to do these days. I wonder if other > listers are concerned > about this, and take steps like timing, additives, a bit of > racing gas, etc. > > Thanks again, very knowledgeable lister!!! From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jul 2 09:21:51 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:21:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8E3A3ED249ED4409A48EF4F6B953E276@TRACY> To be most effective stabil has to be added to fresh gas so you have to be doing it as part of your winter storage prep routine. It is best to leave an almost full tank for storage to protect the tank from condensation and surface rust, the logic given to me by tribal elders being to "seal" as much of the tank from air with fuel as possible. Of course the stabil should also be new. But then I don't leave gas in my tanks for more than a month at a time. On a side not; I do personally believe that there is no fouler smell than 20 year old gas. I had the pleasure of draining such a tank. Yuck e bluck, eeeewww, jeeezo. I then used the boil it on a BBQ bust off the filter trick. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:01 AM To: Bud Pazur Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline I agree old gas can be a problem. From my experience the worst situation is gas that is left exposed to the air for extended periods of time. I have has six month old gas in my motorcycle get all brown and nasty, but gas in my sealed jerry can is fine almost a year later. I also don't believe in Stabil. Ever since they were bought by Eagle their product seems to have gone downhill. I find that Seafoam works well as a fuel stabilizer, it still has limits. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Bud Pazur wrote: > I was just talking to a very knowledgeable lister who said that the cause of > my missing, spitting, bucking problem could very well be old gasoline. He > says modern gas loses its power very quickly. I am going to find out this > evening when I drain the tank and put in fresh gas. A lot of the gas in my > tank is old (last summer). He says Stabil doesn't help. > > He also said I should try to find premium without ethanol. This is > increasingly hard to do these days. I wonder if other listers are concerned > about this, and take steps like timing, additives, a bit of racing gas, etc. > > Thanks again, very knowledgeable lister!!! > > Bud Pazur > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 11:39:33 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:39:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Airbus Message-ID: <37dc82d40907021039r7d7db393l3a9bf74f26939ba4@mail.gmail.com> I had a job where I flew about 100k miles a year over a sales territory that I managed. I never felt as comfortable on an Airbus as I did on a Boeing. I would rather fly in an analogue Boeing any day of the week over the Airbus. Which airplane (can't say air "craft") would you feel safer in? A Russian Aeroflot with pigs and chickens inside the cabin. . over stuffed with people. . . or a Chinese Airbus? I think it would make sense to stay away from either one of them. . Kirk PS I wish we would put tariffs on these foreign planes to protect Boeing. Won't happen though. From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 2 12:06:51 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:06:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Airbus In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907021039r7d7db393l3a9bf74f26939ba4@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907021039r7d7db393l3a9bf74f26939ba4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A4C94CB.28336.EB9DE8@kk7ss.verizon.net> Kirk, You omitted to mention that the Airbus is heavily subsidized by various governments in the EU; France being a major contributor On 2 Jul 2009 at 10:39, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: >> PS >> I wish we would put tariffs on these foreign planes to protect >> Boeing. Won't happen though. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jul 2 12:25:52 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:25:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline In-Reply-To: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> Message-ID: Yeah, if your gas is a year old, you can expect some drivability issues. Remember, when you drive it with new gas in the tank, it will take a few miles of driving to purge the old fuel out of the pump, lines and float chambers. Re: Stabile. Seems like I remember reading an article, from a credible source, that the stuff is ineffective. Personally, I use the stuff that Briggs & Stratton sells, through their dealers, which has the Briggs & Stratton name on the container. If Briggs & Stratton is going to put their name on it, I am confident that it will work. It has the added benefit of being inexpensive, and very easy to use. I've been using it in all of my Gravely tractors, MGs and my 356 for several years, now, and I've not had any fuel system issues at all, except with the 356 which did NOT get winterized (because I was going to drain the tank & take the sending unit out for service). With that one, I did have some "gunk" to clean out of the system, this spring. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Pazur" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:44 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline >I was just talking to a very knowledgeable lister who said that the cause >of > my missing, spitting, bucking problem could very well be old gasoline. He > says modern gas loses its power very quickly. I am going to find out this > evening when I drain the tank and put in fresh gas. A lot of the gas in my > tank is old (last summer). He says Stabil doesn't help. > > He also said I should try to find premium without ethanol. This is > increasingly hard to do these days. I wonder if other listers are > concerned > about this, and take steps like timing, additives, a bit of racing gas, > etc. > > Thanks again, very knowledgeable lister!!! > > Bud Pazur From Jpaschke at bak.rr.com Thu Jul 2 12:36:25 2009 From: Jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:36:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Airbus References: <37dc82d40907021039r7d7db393l3a9bf74f26939ba4@mail.gmail.com> <4A4C94CB.28336.EB9DE8@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: If it ain't Boeing, I ain't going! > Kirk, > > You omitted to mention that the Airbus is heavily subsidized by > various governments in the EU; France being a major contributor > > On 2 Jul 2009 at 10:39, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > >>> PS >>> I wish we would put tariffs on these foreign planes to protect >>> Boeing. Won't happen though. > > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 12:50:44 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:50:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Airbus In-Reply-To: <4A4C94CB.28336.EB9DE8@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <37dc82d40907021039r7d7db393l3a9bf74f26939ba4@mail.gmail.com> <4A4C94CB.28336.EB9DE8@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <37dc82d40907021150v31623c37v5ecd4e23ccd63414@mail.gmail.com> Correcto. . . It looks like the Chinese are doing the assembly (for the most part). Thanks. . Kirk On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Dave G. wrote: > Kirk, > > You omitted to mention that the Airbus is heavily subsidized by > various governments in the EU; France being a major contributor > > On 2 Jul 2009 at 10:39, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > > >> PS > >> I wish we would put tariffs on these foreign planes to protect > >> Boeing. Won't happen though. > > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 2 14:58:56 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 13:58:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline In-Reply-To: References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <200907021159290.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I'm quite convinced that 8 year old gas is better than 8 week old gas, and is certainly better than 8 month old gas. Especially the stuff Bud has to buy near the lake shore. We see black residue on our plugs and assume it is running rich... classic sign, right?... un burnt fuel. In fact, we ARE seeing unburnt residue, that may have been fuel at some point in its life, but modern fuel, especially ethanol laden fuel, doesn't seem to stay very burnable. Get on small engine discussion boards, or talk to your very busy lawnmower repair guy. It's true. Peter C == At 11:25 AM 7/2/2009, Bud Osbourne wrote: >Yeah, if your gas is a year old, you can expect some drivability >issues. Remember, when you drive it with new gas in the tank, it >will take a few miles of driving to purge the old fuel out of the >pump, lines and float chambers. >Re: Stabile. Seems like I remember reading an article, from a >credible source, that the stuff is ineffective. Personally, I use >the stuff that Briggs & Stratton sells, through their dealers, which >has the Briggs & Stratton name on the container. If Briggs & >Stratton is going to put their name on it, I am confident that it >will work. It has the added benefit of being inexpensive, and very >easy to use. I've been using it in all of my Gravely tractors, MGs >and my 356 for several years, now, and I've not had any fuel system >issues at all, except with the 356 which did NOT get winterized >(because I was going to drain the tank & take the sending unit out >for service). With that one, I did have some "gunk" to clean out of >the system, this spring. >Bud Osbourne >----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Pazur" >To: >Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:44 AM >Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline > > >>I was just talking to a very knowledgeable lister who said that the cause of >>my missing, spitting, bucking problem could very well be old gasoline. He >>says modern gas loses its power very quickly. I am going to find out this >>evening when I drain the tank and put in fresh gas. A lot of the gas in my >>tank is old (last summer). He says Stabil doesn't help. >> >>He also said I should try to find premium without ethanol. This is >>increasingly hard to do these days. I wonder if other listers are concerned >>about this, and take steps like timing, additives, a bit of racing gas, etc. >> >>Thanks again, very knowledgeable lister!!! >> >>Bud Pazur >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as peter at nosimport.com > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2214 - Release Date: >07/02/09 05:54:00 From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jul 2 13:36:19 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:36:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline In-Reply-To: <200907021159290.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> <200907021159290.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <2499F57D7BB547DE8F33C7F2FB376355@OwnerPC> You're probably right, Peter. But I'm assuming you mean Bud P, when you mention "the stuff he has to buy near the lake shore". I'm not aware of any extra-special gasoline formulae we have to use along the inland waterways (rivers), at least in Pennsylvania. Bud (river rat) Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; ; "Bud Pazur" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets & Gasoline > I'm quite convinced that 8 year old gas is better than 8 week old gas, and > is certainly better than 8 month old gas. Especially the stuff Bud has to > buy near the lake shore. > > We see black residue on our plugs and assume it is running rich... classic > sign, right?... un burnt fuel. In fact, we ARE seeing unburnt residue, > that may have been fuel at some point in its life, but modern fuel, > especially ethanol laden fuel, doesn't seem to stay very burnable. > > Get on small engine discussion boards, or talk to your very busy lawnmower > repair guy. It's true. > > Peter C From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 2 14:27:21 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:27:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye In-Reply-To: <8DF2B9D0972D4AFB9B52489985C3DCE5@HP> References: <8DF2B9D0972D4AFB9B52489985C3DCE5@HP> Message-ID: <4A4D1829.6040107@comcast.net> Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > Ebay # 180375541853 > > OK, please look at this bugeye and list what is wrong with it, you > guys are the best at finding all the crap that is not right ;-) Electric tach, no tach drive generator Brake fluid ate the paint near the master Electric solenoid, no cable start so I assume the key switch is wrong too. Flasher not installed properly and there are green wire ties holding a wire to the harness. Smoke? Tires are dripping with Armour-All, That came out in 1969, totally WRONG for a 59. Pictures are too small to really pick it apart but it doesn't look too bad. From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 14:35:48 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:35:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye In-Reply-To: <4A4D1829.6040107@comcast.net> References: <8DF2B9D0972D4AFB9B52489985C3DCE5@HP> <4A4D1829.6040107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <402188520907021335k5f0df4fbw3ebb164975f821e@mail.gmail.com> > Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > >> Ebay # 180375541853 >> >> OK, please look at this bugeye and list what is wrong with it, you guys >> are the best at finding all the crap that is not right ;-) >> > The only REAL problem is that it isn't mine ;-) From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 2 14:42:12 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 13:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye Message-ID: <979302.33778.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Sorry, but I can't help ya, Larry. I just can't get past the color! Jay Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > Ebay # 180375541853 > > OK, please look at this bugeye and list what is wrong with it, you guys are the best at finding all the crap that is not right ;-) From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Jul 2 14:47:41 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 16:47:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline In-Reply-To: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> I've been waiting for the subject of gasoline to come up so I could ask about Shell's "new" gasoline. On various web sites Shell advertises a gasoline that is "Nitrogen Enriched Gasoline". Shell announces: "Introducing a new molecule designed to seek and destroy engine gunk in both conventional and modern engines." Nitrogen? Nitrogen? How's that work, I wonder? Nitrogen?? the inert gas? Their web site says. . . Nitrogen is a key element of the active cleaning molecule in the new fuel, making it significantly more stable at higher temperatures common in modern engines, such as direct fuel-injection gasoline engines. The increased stability ensures that the molecule can work under much tougher engine conditions by resisting thermal breakdown better than conventional cleaning additives. Hmmmm Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 2 15:23:48 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:23:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net>, <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4A4CC2F4.19738.491C47@kk7ss.verizon.net> >From what I remember from my High School Chemistry (circa 1953!) Nitrogen + Oxygen + catalyst = Nitrous oxide Nitrous Oxide + water +catalyst = Nitric Acid. Which I don't want in my engine !! Catalyst can be heat, pressure, another chemical.... whatever works!! On 2 Jul 2009 at 16:47, Tim Collins wrote: >> the increased stability ensures that the molecule can work >> under much tougher engine conditions by resisting thermal breakdown >> better than conventional cleaning additives. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From pilotrob at msn.com Thu Jul 2 15:50:59 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:50:59 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Orange Oil ! Message-ID: Wow. Impressive assuming all claims are true and valid. The modern Japanese are just so damn clever. And they make, pennny for penny and pound for pound, some positively great cars. CB -----Original Message----- From: Paul Asgeirsson Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 3:47 PM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Subject: [midgetsprite] Orange Oil ! Do your tires smell freshly squeezed? http://autocarepronews.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=b7b995f7e45a75b3ab8de875e&id=6039da2800&e=a2aee326cb [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu Jul 2 15:54:49 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:54:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline Message-ID: <2aa8901c9fb5f$b8e21920$0168010a@mail2world.com> It's kinda like saying iron is the key element in hemoglobin (the protein that takes oxygen from your lungs to your body). Hemoglobin is a big molecule with lots of other elements in it, but without iron, it doesn't work. I figure there's a lot more stuff to this nitrogen compound in the gasoline, but the ad copy will never reveal what it is because the general public wouldn't understand it anyway. That said, Shell is one of the brands that sells the "top Tier" gasoline (http://www.toptiergas.com/), supposed to produce less deposits in the first place. I use it, and I find I get slightly better fuel mileage with it. NFI, etc. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Tim Collins [thcollin at mtu.edu] >Sent: 7/2/2009 4:49:41 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline > >I've been waiting for the subject of gasoline to come up so I could >ask about Shell's "new" gasoline. On various web sites Shell >advertises a gasoline that is "Nitrogen Enriched Gasoline". Shell >announces: "Introducing a new molecule designed to seek and destroy >engine gunk in both conventional and modern engines." Nitrogen? >Nitrogen? How's that work, I wonder? Nitrogen?? the inert gas? Their >web site says. . . > >Nitrogen is a key element of the active cleaning molecule in the new >fuel, making it significantly more stable at higher temperatures >common in modern engines, such as direct fuel-injection gasoline >engines. The increased stability ensures that the molecule can work >under much tougher engine conditions by resisting thermal breakdown >better than conventional cleaning additives. > >Hmmmm > >Tim Collins >http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ >_______________________________________________ From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 2 18:09:36 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:09:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I'm shocked and dismayed! Message-ID: <200907021509321.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Yesterday a customer came in a picked up a LEFT rear shock for his Midget. Today he calls to tell me I gave him a RIGHT. I said "Fine (or some f-word) I have made a mistake in my life, maybe I pulled the wrong one. Come on back and we'll swap." He shows up with his old one as a core, and I could tell right away it was one of ours about 6 years old. It wasn't leaking, so I grabbed it and it seemed fine to me. "What" says I "seems to be the problem, and by the way, this is a RIGHT hand shock." He says it has air in it, and shows me by holding it with the valve up and moving the lever. I said it "goes the other way round, you're holding it upside down." He said, "But that's the way it was on my car." 'So, it handled kinda funny?" I say. "It was weird, but it always was bouncy. I bought it this way." I gave him his money back, and told him the "core" he had was fine, and to put them on the right way. I had to go look at the 65 Sprite currently turtling in the back of the shop to see if it would be possible to install them upside down, and yes, they will fit, but...... Echoes of Paul A ringing in my ears..."it only goes on one way.." Peter C. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 2 16:11:09 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:11:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Orange Oil ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > improving fuel efficiency via a 20-percent reduction in rolling resistance This is code for NO GRIP ON A LIGHT CAR! From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jul 2 16:31:10 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:31:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye In-Reply-To: <979302.33778.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <979302.33778.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <69D5A487-4F45-4F93-BDAC-A343DC17698D@ado13.com> Thanks for all the replies on the Bugeye. My friend decided not to buy. The car was not bad rust wise but had lots of little problems. The owner said he would take $7k for it. Larry From daredelvis at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 16:34:40 2009 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:34:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I'm shocked and dismayed! In-Reply-To: <200907021509321.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907021509321.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <531383560907021534m3b90a3aap8a1ac89e6da377d0@mail.gmail.com> I can attest that they do indeed go in backwards. Don't ask me how I know. Brian On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Yesterday a customer came in a picked up a LEFT rear shock for his Midget. > > Today he calls to tell me I gave him a RIGHT. I said "Fine (or some > f-word) I have made a mistake in my life, maybe I pulled the wrong one. Come > on back and we'll swap." > > He shows up with his old one as a core, and I could tell right away it was > one of ours about 6 years old. It wasn't leaking, so I grabbed it and it > seemed fine to me. "What" says I "seems to be the problem, and by the way, > this is a RIGHT hand shock." > > He says it has air in it, and shows me by holding it with the valve up and > moving the lever. > > I said it "goes the other way round, you're holding it upside down." He > said, "But that's the way it was on my car." > > 'So, it handled kinda funny?" I say. > > "It was weird, but it always was bouncy. I bought it this way." > > I gave him his money back, and told him the "core" he had was fine, and to > put them on the right way. > > I had to go look at the 65 Sprite currently turtling in the back of the shop > to see if it would be possible to install them upside down, and yes, they > will fit, but...... > > Echoes of Paul A ringing in my ears..."it only goes on one way.." > > Peter C. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as daredelvis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at msn.com Thu Jul 2 16:35:12 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:35:12 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Orange Oil ! Message-ID: We'll see! :) I'll tell you one thing.....it's a damn good thing they didn't make their Zeros as well as the make their cars!! :) CB -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 6:11 PM To: Robert E. Shlafer, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Orange Oil ! > improving fuel efficiency via a 20-percent reduction in rolling resistance This is code for NO GRIP ON A LIGHT CAR! From cbaustin at verizon.net Thu Jul 2 16:35:57 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:35:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I'm shocked and dismayed! References: <200907021509321.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <2DF97586973C423498164417710E0120@universal1> Maybe they work better upside down if you put Nitrogen enriched shock oil in them!!!! CB From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 19:53:45 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:53:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bridget the Midget is getting closer Message-ID: <402188520907021853l653c475av484db619e176129e@mail.gmail.com> For those of you following the progress of Bridget the Midget, a 1977 Midget being driven around the world, she has made it as far as Panama and is on her way to the USA. The intended route, as shown on www.bridgetthemidget.co.uk/route , shows her ending in Chicago after driving through Palatine. I wonder when that will be? Keep your eyes peeled for green 1500 Midgets with UK plates! David L From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Jul 2 21:25:58 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:25:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907022025q28c13cb5ged11254963f5b3ff@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Tim Collins wrote: > Nitrogen? How's that work, I wonder? I wouldn't have any idea but Shell gas is what I use when given a choice; I've never had a problem since switching to Shell. I can say though that I used nitrogen for periodically cleaning the main system boards on computers we used out on our production floor. Wasn't a particularly cheap cleaning agent but wow did it ever do a good job! Not long after I started there we had a PC that was acting really strange and I found the inside of the case was covered with soot and particulates from our manufacturing process (making automotive throttle and brake cables for the Big Three). I asked the plant manager where a air line was I could use to blow it out and he had one of the maintenance guys take me to the tool room where we blew it out good with the vapor from a liquid nitrogen tank. It was so clean you'd have sworn we'd put a new board in it (and never had another problem from that one). From nlaredbt7 at tbc.net Thu Jul 2 21:40:59 2009 From: nlaredbt7 at tbc.net (Neil Anderson) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:40:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bridget the Midget is getting closer References: <402188520907021853l653c475av484db619e176129e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8516D112913F4727825440915974A6C6@owner7ccec1fe9> Right after reading David's post about this marathon feat, I turned to CNN.com and at the bottom of the latest news, a headline caught my attention, iReport.com: "Tiny car takes on big world." You may see this report at a later date if you miss it in it's current edition by going to www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-289685 . A rather short article accompanies some great scenery photos. David, do you think a LBC party is in order when Roy and Bridget the Midget gets to the Chicago area? Neil Anderson ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:53 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Bridget the Midget is getting closer > For those of you following the progress of Bridget the Midget, a 1977 > Midget > being driven around the world, she has made it as far as Panama and is on > her way to the USA. The intended route, as shown on > www.bridgetthemidget.co.uk/route , shows her ending in Chicago after > driving > through Palatine. I wonder when that will be? > Keep your eyes peeled for green 1500 Midgets with UK plates! > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nlaredbt7 at tbc.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jul 2 23:13:13 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:13:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Made in China.... References: , <20D7072A926B454D8B451F71800D84E4@blackbox2> <4A4A8C43.19526.8CAB9C@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4A4C2585.4070203@comcast.net> Message-ID: <86616393C50B43C9A66DF04E9B2F744E@blackbox2> Like I said, Dried cow dung could have easility replaced the Kingsford and it all still would have worked... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" >> > But not DUNG! At least you used charcoal and not what the chinese use. > Cow shit and rice patties. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jul 2 23:19:31 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:19:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye References: <979302.33778.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <69D5A487-4F45-4F93-BDAC-A343DC17698D@ado13.com> Message-ID: <308E9CDAD5234E4A9749F6FA4285DEF4@blackbox2> It's not too bad, Something is wrong with the driver's seat back. Can't see too much with the little photos. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Miller" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay Bugeye > Thanks for all the replies on the Bugeye. My friend decided not to > buy. The car was not bad rust wise but had lots of little problems. > The owner said he would take $7k for it. > > Larry > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlh2001 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jul 2 23:40:18 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 01:40:18 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] I'm shocked and dismayed! References: <200907021509321.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <2BC8F52590C04DE49B00093ACD90B78C@blackbox2> I am in proccess of redoing my front suspension. In the course of it I came to the conclusion that much has been learned regarding "design for manufacturability" since these cars were designed. For example it's very easy to put the upper trunion on flipped around and you end up with a serious camber problem, and you don't notice it until you have the wheel back on and the car off the jacks. Grrr.. I guess the good thing is that I won't make the same mistake twice when I do the other side. The whole front suspension n these cars is a "cross bolted nightmare". Can't believe they never got arount to ball joints on the later marks. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: [Spridgets] I'm shocked and dismayed! > Yesterday a customer came in a picked up a LEFT rear shock for his Midget. > > Today he calls to tell me I gave him a RIGHT. I said "Fine (or some > f-word) I have made a mistake in my life, maybe I pulled the wrong > one. Come on back and we'll swap." > > He shows up with his old one as a core, and I could tell right away > it was one of ours about 6 years old. It wasn't leaking, so I grabbed > it and it seemed fine to me. "What" says I "seems to be the problem, > and by the way, this is a RIGHT hand shock." > > He says it has air in it, and shows me by holding it with the valve > up and moving the lever. > > I said it "goes the other way round, you're holding it upside down." > He said, "But that's the way it was on my car." > > 'So, it handled kinda funny?" I say. > > "It was weird, but it always was bouncy. I bought it this way." > > I gave him his money back, and told him the "core" he had was fine, > and to put them on the right way. > > I had to go look at the 65 Sprite currently turtling in the back of > the shop to see if it would be possible to install them upside down, > and yes, they will fit, but...... > > Echoes of Paul A ringing in my ears..."it only goes on one way.." > > Peter C. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlh2001 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 08:01:45 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:01:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bridget the Midget is getting closer In-Reply-To: <8516D112913F4727825440915974A6C6@owner7ccec1fe9> References: <402188520907021853l653c475av484db619e176129e@mail.gmail.com> <8516D112913F4727825440915974A6C6@owner7ccec1fe9> Message-ID: <402188520907030701q72673e5ek7533abd2d058b35@mail.gmail.com> > Right after reading David's post about this marathon feat, I turned to > CNN.com and at the bottom of the latest news, a headline caught my > attention, iReport.com: "Tiny car takes on big world." You may see this > report at a later date if you miss it in it's current edition by going to > www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-289685 . A rather short article accompanies some > great scenery photos. > > David, do you think a LBC party is in order when Roy and Bridget the Midget > gets to the Chicago area? Of course! I just hope it doesn't happen while I am canoeing the Boundary Waters at the beginning of August... David L From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Fri Jul 3 08:47:57 2009 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (mdmyers_ct) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:47:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline Message-ID: <20090703.075401.2464.7032@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Here is some info on gas performance tests and a list of suppliers who have signed up to the top level of additives to prevent deposits: http://www.toptiergas.com/ Mike Myers ____________________________________________________________ Turn life into a beach with a new sandbox. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTGaFLMsxCXnurENAsi0k6tobN3jb35dHfdBXv9rz4E3TwKv8NKGp6/ From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jul 3 09:10:27 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:10:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline In-Reply-To: <20090703.075401.2464.7032@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> References: <20090703.075401.2464.7032@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <513193224.20090703081027@pacifier.com> Hello, I've sat this one out until now, but it's to join the discussion. Since my gas gauge doesn't work, (short ground, long story) I carry (carried) and extra gallon the trunk. I wanted to know for how long I could store the fuel without it degrading, so I started a correspondence with the people at Chevron (from whom I now buy virtually all my gasoline. (Gee, It just so happens my niece started working for them shortly after I made the change from ARCO,-another longER story). This is information that I got. They said their gas was good for ONE YEAR in a sealed container. So, once a year, I pour the fuel in the reserve into the tank, and refill my extra. When I bought my STIHL weedeater, they said no more than 3 months. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Elvis is dead and I don't feel so good myself. From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 09:22:47 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:22:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline In-Reply-To: <20090703.075401.2464.7032@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> References: <20090703.075401.2464.7032@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <402188520907030822ma26a70fs2316a067a640d4c5@mail.gmail.com> > Here is some info on gas performance tests and a list of suppliers who > have signed up to the top level of additives to prevent deposits: > > http://www.toptiergas.com/ > Interesting. In the past, however, I have found that I get significantly better mileage with Mobil which is not on the list than I do with Phillips 66 which is on the list. David L From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 3 09:47:33 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 08:47:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline In-Reply-To: <402188520907030822ma26a70fs2316a067a640d4c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090703.075401.2464.7032@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com>, <402188520907030822ma26a70fs2316a067a640d4c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A4DC5A5.7537.7F5D9C@kk7ss.verizon.net> I have also find it interesting that every car I've ever owned has shown a preference for a particular brand of gas... Typically, another chap with an identical car, will tell me that my brand choice is bad for his car... Go figure ;-)) On 3 Jul 2009 at 10:22, David Lieb wrote: >> Interesting. In the past, however, I have found that I get >> significantly better mileage with Mobil which is not on the list than >> I do with Phillips 66 which is on the list. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 09:59:33 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 08:59:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline In-Reply-To: <402188520907030822ma26a70fs2316a067a640d4c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090703.075401.2464.7032@mailpop05.vgs.untd.com> <402188520907030822ma26a70fs2316a067a640d4c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140907030859g7b91613ep2055ddbcb312bb23@mail.gmail.com> O.K. I know I shouldn't ask this, but I can't resist: who are these Top Tier guys anyway? My guess is that they are a bunch of industry giants that are looking for a marketing edge. I'm not saying that there aren't differences between brands of gasoline, but that whatever these guys say is somewhat suspect to me. The question I always ask myself is "*Cui bono*?" (Latin for "what's in it for me?" according to Ambrose Bierce) Why have the detergent levels required by the EPA in gasoline fallen over the "past several years"? Could that be from, say, late January 2001? :) I seriously doubt that there is a significant difference in mileage from one brand of gas to another. As far as I know there have been no double blind studies that could compare apples to apples. One might sense that he is getting better mileage: but without hard numbers that take into consideration weather, traffic, road conditions, vehicular condition, gas formulation ( Winter/Summer,) and whether Mercury has gone retrograde, it is not possible to determine if one brand of gas actually yields better mileage. Hal On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 8:22 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Here is some info on gas performance tests and a list of suppliers who > > have signed up to the top level of additives to prevent deposits: > > > > http://www.toptiergas.com/ > > > Interesting. In the past, however, I have found that I get significantly > better mileage with Mobil which is not on the list than I do with Phillips > 66 which is on the list. > David L From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 3 12:21:51 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:21:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc wheel to wire wheel... Message-ID: <200907030921577.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Listerati..... What are the pitfalls when converting the rear axle from disc to wire wheels whilst keeping the disc wheel housing? Aren't the axles for the wires slightly longer resulting in the standing off the hub a touch? If so, what remedies have worked? Thanks Peter C From cclabaw at juno.com Fri Jul 3 10:26:32 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:26:32 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline Message-ID: <20090703.092632.29658.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> Listers - FWIW, my preferences for many years has been (in order): 76, Chevron, other premiums, Shell, anything that might combust, ARCO. I noticed that ARCO didn't make the top tier list. Back when it was Richfield, and advertised that it contained Boron (ca. 1960), it was pretty good fuel. Good = runs an XK 120M w/9.0 heads in Seattle in the winter. This is based on personal experience and reflects lack of problems such as mis-fire, erratic starting, cruddy plugs, etc. Clay L. '67 Sprite ---------- Original Message ---------- From: mdmyers_ct To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gasoline Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:47:57 -0400 Here is some info on gas performance tests and a list of suppliers who have signed up to the top level of additives to prevent deposits: http://www.toptiergas.com/ Mike Myers ____________________________________________________________ Turn life into a beach with a new sandbox. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTGaFLMsxCXnurENAsi0k6tobN3j b35dHfdBXv9rz4E3TwKv8NKGp6/ You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at me.com Fri Jul 3 10:39:58 2009 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:39:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc wheel to wire wheel... In-Reply-To: <200907030921577.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907030921577.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <422AF0A1-84EB-494C-8162-C89EFC576761@me.com> Peter, The wire wheel axles are shorter and splined at both ends. The differential housing (banjo) is one inch narrower for wire wheels. So there will be at least a half inch less engagement per axle in the diff. in a disk wheel banjo. Also I think the bearing hubs are different. There are adapters for putting wire wheels on disk wheel axles but have always wondered if they increased the rear track by an inch or more. Then there is the cleaning an tuning of the wires but they look great. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 3, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Listerati..... > > What are the pitfalls when converting the rear axle from disc to > wire wheels whilst keeping the disc wheel housing? > > Aren't the axles for the wires slightly longer resulting in the > standing off the hub a touch? > > If so, what remedies have worked? > > Thanks > > Peter C > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 11:20:39 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline Message-ID: <686369.51848.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I dunno guys, I think we're picking flyshit out of pepper. I've never had any trouble with anyone's gasoline, street, race or otherwise. We've got cars that many of us maintain ourselves, and many of us set timing by ear, carb mixture by reading a tailpipe, carb synchronization with a rubber hose, etc., and we're talking about the effect of a few PPM of an additive coming out of a gas tank older than I am, running through what is probably 25 year old degraded, rusted flaking fuel line? Ron From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 11:49:21 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 10:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Disc wheel to wire wheel... Message-ID: <220269.33809.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Peter, Pretty easy to do. Air chisel the welch plugs out of a wire wheel axle and press the axle inwards to match the length of the disc wheel axle (5/8" if IIRC). Fit a new welch plug (or an appropriate size rubber ball with sealant) to keep the gear oil from leaking onto your brake shoes and you're good. Rick --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: From: Peter Caldwell Subject: [Spridgets] Disc wheel to wire wheel... To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 2:21 PM Listerati..... What are the pitfalls when converting the rear axle from disc to wire wheels whilst keeping the disc wheel housing? Aren't the axles for the wires slightly longer resulting in the standing off the hub a touch? If so, what remedies have worked? Thanks Peter C You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 13:36:36 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (soavero at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop from Heaven Message-ID: <834748.38119.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You guys may recall several months ago a craigslist posting was forwarded to the list for a NOS Bugeye hardtop in Torrance CA for $100. I have always wanted a hardtop for my Bugeye, so I forwarded it to Zoom and Buster in SoCal with instructions to buy it and if they didn't want it I'd take it. Buster responded first, CC'ing me on his correspondence to the seller saying HE'D always wanted one, and he'd take it. I was happy for Buster, but a little bummed that I'd missed yet another hardtop. I'd even lamented this to Flounder repeatedly while relocating his shop, which includes several rare and beautiful hardtop variants. Fast forward to 2 weeks ago. My wife sits me down and has a weird look on her face (I'm thinking I was gonna be a papa again or something!). Turns out Greyhound has LOST the hardtop that Buster bought and SENT TO ME (of course, Frank, Peter and possibly others were in on it to some extent)! It was never his intent to keep it, the whole thing was a ruse by him. Greyhound finally finds it, it's beautiful and, like Buster's BusterCluster Sprite, means a helluva lot more than than its tangible value. Buster's note says "Now, why in the world would I ever live in a place where I need a hardtop?". The top has inspired me to get my street Bugeye right, and I've been driving it every day. An amazing thing to do, and once again proof that this hobby/list is truly a brother (and sister) hood. Cheers to all, Ron From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Jul 3 13:44:50 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:44:50 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery? In-Reply-To: <686369.51848.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090703194450.HS4C1.484852.root@hrndva-web12-z01> happy 4th in advance, list- So after about two weeks of my car sitting in the garage, the battery is dead. I know we've had discussions of old batteries and such, but mine is only 2 years old. I just can't see anything bleeding off voltage on this sitting for a couple weeks. I don't even have half the lights installed yet. I do know my system is charging, and charging well when running (alternator conversion). There is water in the battery as well. Before I take my battery back since its under warranty, is there something else I should be looking at? I confirmed that no lights are left on. Chris From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 3 14:25:17 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:25:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery? In-Reply-To: <20090703194450.HS4C1.484852.root@hrndva-web12-z01> References: <686369.51848.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <20090703194450.HS4C1.484852.root@hrndva-web12-z01> Message-ID: <4A4E06BD.18684.333E77@kk7ss.verizon.net> Disconnect the battery ground. Put an amp-meter (a common DVM will do) between the battery and ground. If you read zero current then it's the battery... If there is current, then you have a bit of miswiring - something is live! On 3 Jul 2009 at 19:44, cmanuel at wi.rr.com wrote: >> Before I take my battery back since its under warranty, is there >> something else I should be looking at? I confirmed that no lights are >> left on. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 3 14:39:04 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:39:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop from Heaven In-Reply-To: <834748.38119.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <834748.38119.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5DB64004F93E4653A27E21C55F62C37F@spider> Well, there is someone watching over you. We got sun today, and 89 degrees. ...bill in oregon ============================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of soavero at yahoo.com Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:37 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop from Heaven You guys may recall several months ago a craigslist posting was forwarded to the list for a NOS Bugeye hardtop in Torrance CA for $100. I have always wanted a hardtop for my Bugeye, so I forwarded it to Zoom and Buster in SoCal with instructions to buy it and if they didn't want it I'd take it. Buster responded first, CC'ing me on his correspondence to the seller saying HE'D always wanted one, and he'd take it. I was happy for Buster, but a little bummed that I'd missed yet another hardtop. I'd even lamented this to Flounder repeatedly while relocating his shop, which includes several rare and beautiful hardtop variants. Fast forward to 2 weeks ago. My wife sits me down and has a weird look on her face (I'm thinking I was gonna be a papa again or something!). Turns out Greyhound has LOST the hardtop that Buster bought and SENT TO ME (of course, Frank, Peter and possibly others were in on it to some extent)! It was never his intent to keep it, the whole thing was a ruse by him. Greyhound finally finds it, it's beautiful and, like Buster's BusterCluster Sprite, means a helluva lot more than its tangible value. Buster's note says "Now, why in the world would I ever live in a place where I need a hardtop?". The top has inspired me to get my street Bugeye right, and I've been driving it every day. An amazing thing to do, and once again proof that this hobby/list is truly a brother (and sister) hood. Cheers to all, Ron _______________________________________________ From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 14:43:06 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:43:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasoline In-Reply-To: <686369.51848.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <686369.51848.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Ron Soave wrote: I dunno guys, I think we're picking flyshit out of pepper. I've never had any trouble with anyone's gasoline, street, race or otherwise. Years ago I had a 1968 Corvette that ate the timing gear. Fifteen of the sixteen valves got bent. Pulled the heads to fix that and then scraped the carbon off the pistons... I used a flat blade screwdriver and worked on it every evening until it was done. It was pretty thick. When I got it all back together I did notice that the pinging and run-on were gone. The other thing that I noticed was that there was no big black cloud of smoke when I tromped on it. It did that every time I opened the four barrel before! Unleaded gas and the way that it is more precisely measured today eliminates most of the deposits. Run some good fuel system cleaner every so often and don't worry about it... Of course, in a spridget it doesn't matter anyway. Since we pull the head every other month anyway, we can clean the crud out when it accumulates!!! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jul 3 14:51:13 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:51:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop from Heaven In-Reply-To: <834748.38119.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <834748.38119.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1845609281.20090703135113@pacifier.com> Hello Soavero, I was talking to someone at work yesterday, telling about the various gatherings/assistance that happens thru THIS listserv. She wanted to know how to find one for her husband and his 1957 International pickup. We did a little searching, and found a couple of forums that were close, but I had to tell her that there really is NOTHING out there for any other vehicle like we have assembled here. .. Happy Hardtop. It'll change your winters! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "Nice looking glass!" said Tom reflectively. From nases at verizon.net Fri Jul 3 14:59:05 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:59:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hardtop from Heaven In-Reply-To: <834748.38119.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <834748.38119.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's true. And as far as I can tell it is very unique to Spridget owners. A few years ago when I was invited to an OSHIT I just couldn't believe the generosity and friendliness of the people I met. Frank, Kevin and others would just give away parts. This was so foreign to anything I had ever seen before. But truly contagious. It's a very cool bunch of folks. Sent from my iPhone Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jul 3, 2009, at 3:36 PM, soavero at yahoo.com wrote: > An amazing thing to do, and once again proof that this hobby/list is > truly a brother (and sister) hood. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jul 3 17:32:42 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:32:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery? In-Reply-To: <20090703194450.HS4C1.484852.root@hrndva-web12-z01> Message-ID: > Before I take my battery back since its under warranty, is there something > else I should be looking at? I confirmed that no lights are left on. Measure the current draw with everything off. There shouldn't be any. From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jul 3 18:40:18 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:40:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC ... Joke Message-ID: <22906709.20090703174018@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Recently a routine police patrol parked outside a local pub. Late in the evening the officer noticed a man leaving the bar so intoxicated that he could barely walk. The man stumbled around the car park for a few minutes, with the officer quietly observing. After what seemed an eternity and trying his keys on five vehicles, the man managed to find his car which he fell into. He sat there for a few minutes as a number of other patrons left the bar and drove off. Finally he started the car, switched the wipers on and off (it was a fine dry night) flicked the indicators on, then off, tooted the horn and then switched on the lights. He moved the vehicle forward a few inches, reversed a little and then remained stationery for a few more minutes as some more vehicles left. At last he pulled out of the car park and started to drive slowly down the road. The police officer, having patiently waited all this time, now started up the patrol car, put on the flashing lights, promptly pulled the man over and carried out a breathalyzer test. To his amazement, the breathalyzer indicated no evidence of the man having consumed alcohol at all! Dumbfounded, the officer said "I'll have to ask you to accompany me to the police station. This breathalyzer equipment must be broken." "I doubt it", said the man, "tonight I'm the designated decoy." -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "They are not answering - we'd better try the knocker," said Tom adoringly. From millerls at ado13.com Fri Jul 3 18:46:53 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:46:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc wheel to wire wheel... In-Reply-To: <200907030921577.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907030921577.SM02468@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <27CFF25B-E5C9-4BE6-9073-8E4933E2A744@ado13.com> Try: http://www.ado13.com/techs/tech1/wwc.html On Jul 3, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Listerati..... > > What are the pitfalls when converting the rear axle from disc to > wire wheels whilst keeping the disc wheel housing? > > Aren't the axles for the wires slightly longer resulting in the > standing off the hub a touch? > > If so, what remedies have worked? > > Thanks > > Peter C > ________ From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Jul 3 19:32:38 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 21:32:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] First crunch Message-ID: <84C90A457FAC4E8EB6B64A6B3196878A@Home> Well, my fender and headlight were crunched in by a gigantic SUV in a parking lot today. I was waiting for a woman to close her car door to clear a parking space when the SUV simply backed 15-20' into me. Honking the horn had no effect, and I couldn't get into reverse fast enough while honking the horn. The crunch revealed some bondo I did not know was there. Not sure how insurance handles these things. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 3 20:39:05 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] First crunch Message-ID: <739313.7000.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> First question: Did you get a police report? David Booker --- On Fri, 7/3/09, Michael Rowe wrote: From: Michael Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] First crunch To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, July 3, 2009, 8:32 PM Well, my fender and headlight were crunched in by a gigantic SUV in a parking lot today. I was waiting for a woman to close her car door to clear a parking space when the SUV simply backed 15-20' into me. Honking the horn had no effect, and I couldn't get into reverse fast enough while honking the horn. The crunch revealed some bondo I did not know was there. Not sure how insurance handles these things. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 20:57:30 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 19:57:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Brake Pic Needed Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907031957o27205dc8hb4dd7d01dba1cfb4@mail.gmail.com> Anyone have a picture of the brakes on a BE...drum removed? Need to see cylinders & shoes mainly. Thanks, Herb From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 3 21:19:08 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 20:19:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Pix....FRONT needed. Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907032019v3ebcf6bbp716e8cb13ae45cbf@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, but I need the front. Thanks to Paul for answering so quickly, albeit of the rears. Herb From davriker at nwi.net Fri Jul 3 22:12:01 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:12:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] First crunch References: <84C90A457FAC4E8EB6B64A6B3196878A@Home> Message-ID: <2C0015931FC243EDBBF991760BCF742C@MAIN> Very nicely, actually. Print off the prices from Moss at full retail, take the parts list to the most expensive body shop in town. They will mark those prices up 25%. They will use a book that says it takes hours and hours to fix it. You will have an estimate for big $$. The insurance company will want to total the car. Fight them. Settle. Straighten the parts, replace a few with used stuff from list members or ebay. Keep the change. Worked for me. Dave R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] First crunch > Well, my fender and headlight were crunched in by a gigantic SUV in a > parking lot today. I was waiting for a woman to close her car door to > clear a parking space when the SUV simply backed 15-20' into me. Honking > the horn had no effect, and I couldn't get into reverse fast enough while > honking the horn. The crunch revealed some bondo I did not know was > there. Not sure how insurance handles these things. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jul 3 22:48:19 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:48:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] For the Fans of Danica Message-ID: *I was on Ebay looking at a German 9 cylinder radial model airplane engine and just happened to click on "Seller's other Items" http://tinyurl.com/kulqvu Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 * From mark at nashvilletn.org Sat Jul 4 08:39:58 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:39:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny Rear Seal Message-ID: <101B8C7F1E14469A9713274BD9BAB923@Dell9200> I bought a Datsun 5 speed transmission and had it shipped to my home. When it arrived the "rear extension dust cover with seal" had been bent. I easily tapped it out of the tranny housing and could probably bang it back straight but it looks like the seal and dust cover are one piece. I looked up the rear seal and the pix looks like any other seal without the dust shield cup. What should I be looking for, just a seal or a seal with the "dust" shield? Happy 4th to all!! Paul, you still selling tranny kits? Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com From kramer.allen at comcast.net Sat Jul 4 09:08:33 2009 From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter Message-ID: <113455216.272511246720113667.JavaMail.root@sz0098a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Will a 1275 cc spin on oil filter setup bolt directly to a 948 cc? B Inquiring mind would like to know. Thanks Allen 1960 Bugeye From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 09:41:29 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:41:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] To all list members Message-ID: Happy 4th of July to all US list members... To all UK members, thanks for the day off!!!! LOL -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From pilotrob at msn.com Sat Jul 4 10:13:29 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:13:29 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] To all list members Message-ID: LOL..... :):) CB -----Original Message----- From: Brad Fornal Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:41 AM To: Spridget list, Yahoo Spridget list, Drive by Truckers, Slobberbone, thedrams at googlegroups.com, Drams Group Subject: [midgetsprite] To all list members Happy 4th of July to all US list members... To all UK members, thanks for the day off!!!! LOL -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From invite+pzoo1v1f at facebookmail.com Sat Jul 4 10:34:38 2009 From: invite+pzoo1v1f at facebookmail.com (Bob Campion) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:34:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook Message-ID: Hi spridgets at autox.team.net, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Bob To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1449847761&k=RYL6QWQY3WVM5GMBRC2XY4&r spridgets at autox.team.net was invited to join Facebook by Bob Campion. If you do not wish to receive this type of email from Facebook in the future, please click on the link below to unsubscribe. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=b3b856&u=1592314489&mid=b981ccG5ee8ca79G0G8 Facebook's offices are located at 1601 S. California Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94304. From stargazer1 at cox.net Sat Jul 4 10:35:40 2009 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:35:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine Message-ID: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> Some time back, there were plans for making an A-series engine dolly. I lost that post in a hard drive crash, and can't find it via the usual Google and the list archive searches. Does anyone remember where I can find those plans? Thanks, Dave Ambrose From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 10:46:38 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:46:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Bob Campion < invite+pzoo1v1f at facebookmail.com >wrote: Hi spridgets at autox.team.net, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Hey Bob, You might have one of those viruses that you can easily pick up from a lot of Facebook pages... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From jfishbein at snet.net Sat Jul 4 10:57:39 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 09:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook Message-ID: <236109.40479.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Bob, The simplest thing to do is to make your profile public so that it is accessible to everyone. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Bob Campion wrote: From: Bob Campion Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook To: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 12:34 PM Hi spridgets at autox.team.net, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Bob To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1449847761&k=RYL6QWQY3WVM5GMBRC2XY4&r From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 11:14:30 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:14:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 8th Annual Tri-Healey Meet 2009 Tri-Healey 2009 Message-ID: <43840a7e0907041014n2acbf374v176db812f1cb3585@mail.gmail.com> 8th Annual Tri-Healey Meet 2009 Tri-Healey 2009 Best Western-Eureka Springs, AR October 9-October 11th Sponsored By Kansas City Austin Healey Club Name_________________________ Spouse/Guest_____________________ Street____________________________________ City___________________ State____________________ Zip___________ Phone____________________ Email____________________ Vehicle Make_______________ Model__________________ Year________ Registration with car- $60.00/single or $70/couple $_______ Registration without car- $30/single or $40/couple $_______ Saturday breakfast buffet- Gazebo Restaurant $9 each x ____ $_______ (At leisure, open seating- group rate includes tax and gratuity) Saturday night dinner Buffet & Auction Victorian Banquet Room (with cash bar) $32 each x____ $_______ (Includes Saturday all day Trolley ticket to downtown Eureka Springs) Sunday awards breakfast buffet- Victorian Banquet Room $12 x____ $________ Gear for Sports- Big Cotton Crew- Maroon Color Long sleeve with embroidered Tri-Healey event patch S____ M____ L____ XL____ XXL____ $30 x___ $________ Make check payable to: Kansas City Austin Healey Club Total $________ Question?-Mike Osipik mikeosipik at earthlink.net Send to: Kathy Wirken 1019 West 70th Terrace 816-333-2506 Kansas City, MO 64113 Deadline August 28, 2009 Please contact Best Western Eureka Springs early for your reservation and allow us to maintain our block of rooms. Book as Tri-Healey- Request East Building (new) Room Rate based on 1-2 people: $94.00 per night, plus tax Contact toll free at 1-800-221-3344 Or you may email at: info at eurekabw.com Web site: www.eurekabw.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 11:35:09 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:35:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine In-Reply-To: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> References: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> Message-ID: I don't know about the dolly, but I cut the front clip out of a burnt 65, welded an axle out of a 3 yard dumpster under where the front suspension used to be, and added some 3/4 bent pipe at the back, for handles to roll it. The engine and tranny sit on it, I have the radiator mounts, shortened exhaust, and on the bits left of the top of the footwells, I mounted the key ignition, starter solenoid, and temp/pressure gauge. The left footwell contains the gas tank out of a lawn mower, and an facet style electric fuel pump. The right contains a coil of jumper cables. These are wired directly to the solenoid, and ground. I had originally considered a battery, but as infrequently as I use this, I felt wiring in cables to be a better option. I owe a huge debt of thanks to the many folks at LotO that helped with the wiring to get this ugly thing running. John Kuzman, and Jack Brashear were the two I recall off hand that were there. Someone else shot video of the bugger running, but memory fails me just now. This was the same guy that was great with the electrical wiring on it also. Thank you so much!! If this type of dolly is what you are interested in, I could send photos. Brad On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Ambrose wrote: > Some time back, there were plans for making an A-series engine dolly. I > lost that post in a hard drive crash, and can't find it via the usual Google > and the list archive searches. > > Does anyone remember where I can find those plans? > > Thanks, > Dave Ambrose > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jul 4 11:38:13 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:38:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine In-Reply-To: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> References: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> Message-ID: <69826C1023B94604BB95F9E2BCFD3DB4@spider> How about a C-Series Austin-Healey dolly? http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Engine%20Dolly.pdf =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Ambrose Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:36 AM To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine Some time back, there were plans for making an A-series engine dolly. I lost that post in a hard drive crash, and can't find it via the usual Google and the list archive searches. Does anyone remember where I can find those plans? Thanks, Dave Ambrose _______________________________________________ From george.brokaw at cox.net Sat Jul 4 11:55:37 2009 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 12:55:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine In-Reply-To: References: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> Message-ID: <030101c9fcd0$a3837bb0$ea8a7310$@brokaw@cox.net> Brad, The name that escapes you is Paul Herder. The YouTube video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v40PiJdCmVI I took the video with my camera phone so the quality (?) Paul (lurking as George) -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine I don't know about the dolly, but I cut the front clip out of a burnt 65, welded an axle out of a 3 yard dumpster under where the front suspension used to be, and added some 3/4 bent pipe at the back, for handles to roll it. The engine and tranny sit on it, I have the radiator mounts, shortened exhaust, and on the bits left of the top of the footwells, I mounted the key ignition, starter solenoid, and temp/pressure gauge. The left footwell contains the gas tank out of a lawn mower, and an facet style electric fuel pump. The right contains a coil of jumper cables. These are wired directly to the solenoid, and ground. I had originally considered a battery, but as infrequently as I use this, I felt wiring in cables to be a better option. I owe a huge debt of thanks to the many folks at LotO that helped with the wiring to get this ugly thing running. John Kuzman, and Jack Brashear were the two I recall off hand that were there. Someone else shot video of the bugger running, but memory fails me just now. This was the same guy that was great with the electrical wiring on it also. Thank you so much!! If this type of dolly is what you are interested in, I could send photos. Brad On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Ambrose wrote: > Some time back, there were plans for making an A-series engine dolly. I > lost that post in a hard drive crash, and can't find it via the usual Google > and the list archive searches. > > Does anyone remember where I can find those plans? > > Thanks, > Dave Ambrose From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jul 4 12:09:12 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:09:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine In-Reply-To: <4622899922932630828@unknownmsgid> References: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> <4622899922932630828@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: YEAH!! That's it, Paul!!! Thank you Paul, you were the most important member of the group. It was great to have all the help from John and Jack, but your knowledge of wiring was absolutely invaluable. Thank you again!! Brad On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 12:55 PM, George Brokaw wrote: > Brad, > > The name that escapes you is Paul Herder. > > The YouTube video is here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v40PiJdCmVI > > I took the video with my camera phone so the quality (?) > > Paul (lurking as George) > > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare > engine > > I don't know about the dolly, but I cut the front clip out of a burnt 65, > welded an axle out of a 3 yard dumpster under where the front suspension > used to be, and added some 3/4 bent pipe at the back, for handles to roll > it. The engine and tranny sit on it, I have the radiator mounts, shortened > exhaust, and on the bits left of the top of the footwells, I mounted the > key > ignition, starter solenoid, and temp/pressure gauge. The left footwell > contains the gas tank out of a lawn mower, and an facet style electric fuel > pump. The right contains a coil of jumper cables. These are wired directly > to the solenoid, and ground. I had originally considered a battery, but as > infrequently as I use this, I felt wiring in cables to be a better option. > I owe a huge debt of thanks to the many folks at LotO that helped with the > wiring to get this ugly thing running. John Kuzman, and Jack Brashear were > the two I recall off hand that were there. Someone else shot video of the > bugger running, but memory fails me just now. This was the same guy that > was > great with the electrical wiring on it also. Thank you so much!! > If this type of dolly is what you are interested in, I could send photos. > > Brad > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Ambrose wrote: > > > Some time back, there were plans for making an A-series engine dolly. I > > lost that post in a hard drive crash, and can't find it via the usual > Google > > and the list archive searches. > > > > Does anyone remember where I can find those plans? > > > > Thanks, > > Dave Ambrose > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From george.brokaw at cox.net Sat Jul 4 12:42:08 2009 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:42:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine In-Reply-To: References: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> <4622899922932630828@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <030501c9fcd7$22d45a00$687d0e00$@brokaw@cox.net> No. Thank you Brad for the opportunity! It was fun and VERY satisfying when your engine started up and ran! And for being the most important member of the group, I feel I was just one the people who had some knowledge, parts, or battery who got your engine running. The most important member of the group was the TEAM! ;^) Paul (still lurking as George) Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine YEAH!! That's it, Paul!!! Thank you Paul, you were the most important member of the group. It was great to have all the help from John and Jack, but your knowledge of wiring was absolutely invaluable. Thank you again!! Brad On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 12:55 PM, George Brokaw wrote: Brad, The name that escapes you is Paul Herder. The YouTube video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v40PiJdCmVI I took the video with my camera phone so the quality (?) Paul (lurking as George) -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine I don't know about the dolly, but I cut the front clip out of a burnt 65, welded an axle out of a 3 yard dumpster under where the front suspension used to be, and added some 3/4 bent pipe at the back, for handles to roll it. The engine and tranny sit on it, I have the radiator mounts, shortened exhaust, and on the bits left of the top of the footwells, I mounted the key ignition, starter solenoid, and temp/pressure gauge. The left footwell contains the gas tank out of a lawn mower, and an facet style electric fuel pump. The right contains a coil of jumper cables. These are wired directly to the solenoid, and ground. I had originally considered a battery, but as infrequently as I use this, I felt wiring in cables to be a better option. I owe a huge debt of thanks to the many folks at LotO that helped with the wiring to get this ugly thing running. John Kuzman, and Jack Brashear were the two I recall off hand that were there. Someone else shot video of the bugger running, but memory fails me just now. This was the same guy that was great with the electrical wiring on it also. Thank you so much!! If this type of dolly is what you are interested in, I could send photos. Brad On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:35 AM, David Ambrose wrote: > Some time back, there were plans for making an A-series engine dolly. I > lost that post in a hard drive crash, and can't find it via the usual Google > and the list archive searches. > > Does anyone remember where I can find those plans? > > Thanks, > Dave Ambrose -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From cooper6 at swbell.net Sat Jul 4 12:49:48 2009 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 13:49:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook In-Reply-To: <236109.40479.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <236109.40479.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1042876C54D94FC899ADA1F59E2ED820@cooper> Jay, I'm added!! Martin Cooper -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Fishbein Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:58 To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook Bob, The simplest thing to do is to make your profile public so that it is accessible to everyone. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Bob Campion wrote: From: Bob Campion Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook To: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 12:34 PM Hi spridgets at autox.team.net, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Bob To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1449847761&k=RYL6QWQY3WVM5GMBRC2XY4&r You are subscribed as cooper6 at swbell.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12750 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12750 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From jfishbein at snet.net Sat Jul 4 12:56:36 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 11:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook Message-ID: <173164.61011.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Martin, Thanks but the Facebook request came from Bob Campion. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Martin wrote: From: Martin Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook To: "'Jay Fishbein'" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 2:49 PM Jay, I'm added!! Martin Cooper -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Fishbein Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:58 To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook Bob, The simplest thing to do is to make your profile public so that it is accessible to everyone. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Bob Campion wrote: From: Bob Campion Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook To: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 12:34 PM Hi spridgets at autox.team.net, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Bob From cooper6 at swbell.net Sat Jul 4 13:56:52 2009 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:56:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0EAAD7C588124F03AC2C074707DC4D7B@cooper> Bob, So which file is yours on Facebook there are a few Bob Campion's -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Campion Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:35 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook Hi spridgets at autox.team.net, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Bob To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1449847761&k=RYL6QWQY3WVM5GMBRC2XY4&r spridgets at autox.team.net was invited to join Facebook by Bob Campion. If you do not wish to receive this type of email from Facebook in the future, please click on the link below to unsubscribe. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=b3b856&u=1592314489&mid=b981ccG5ee8ca79G0G8 Facebook's offices are located at 1601 S. California Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94304. You are subscribed as cooper6 at swbell.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12750 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12750 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From cooper6 at swbell.net Sat Jul 4 14:36:14 2009 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:36:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Front End Pad to disc brakes conversion question!!!! In-Reply-To: <030501c9fcd7$22d45a00$687d0e00$@brokaw@cox.net> References: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> <4622899922932630828@unknownmsgid> <030501c9fcd7$22d45a00$687d0e00$@brokaw@cox.net> Message-ID: All, Have a technical question, I am changing out the Pad Brakes to Disc Brakes on the front end on my 59' BE. I got it all just about together, but it seems that the Tie Rod ends now bind against the disc dust cover - are there different tie rods ends on the disc brakes vs. the pad brakes and would it be ok to cut the dust cover so they do not bind them? Martin Cooper E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12750 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 4 14:58:02 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 15:58:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine References: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> <69826C1023B94604BB95F9E2BCFD3DB4@spider> Message-ID: <39B165FC73264F8F9FD321F2A8BC1BE8@Larry> I built two rolling carts out of 2X4s with 3" casters. They have upper and lower trays and are plenty strong enough to hold motors and trans, etc. On one of them I have a spare complete "B" series motor and an aluminum V-8 short block on top and a Datsun 5-speed and lots of misc. parts below. The other cart has another Aluminum V-8 short block and a Rover 5-speed on top with another Rover 5-speed as well as a half dozen heads and other misc. parts on the bottom. These 2X4 carts are plenty strong enough for all of this. One difference from that "C" series Austin Healey dolly is that I used all lag bolts in pre-drilled holes rather than using nails. I have less than $25 in each of these carts. They are easily rolled around the garage as needed. LAD ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine How about a C-Series Austin-Healey dolly? http://www.healey6.com/Technical/Engine%20Dolly.pdf =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Ambrose Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 9:36 AM To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Need pointer to building a shop dolly for my spare engine Some time back, there were plans for making an A-series engine dolly. I lost that post in a hard drive crash, and can't find it via the usual Google and the list archive searches. Does anyone remember where I can find those plans? Thanks, Dave Ambrose _______________________________________________ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 4 16:07:15 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:07:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter In-Reply-To: <113455216.272511246720113667.JavaMail.root@sz0098a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <113455216.272511246720113667.JavaMail.root@sz0098a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A4FD293.2010908@comcast.net> kramer.allen at comcast.net wrote: > Will a 1275 cc spin on oil filter setup bolt directly to a 948 cc? B Inquiring > mind would like to know. > > Yes but you will need the pipe from the banjo bolt to the filter housing too. Just use it as it unbolts from the 1275 with whatever spacers and bolt it to the 948. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 4 16:17:54 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:17:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Front End Pad to disc brakes conversion question!!!! In-Reply-To: References: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net> <4622899922932630828@unknownmsgid> <030501c9fcd7$22d45a00$687d0e00$@brokaw@cox.net> Message-ID: <4A4FD512.3020908@comcast.net> Martin wrote: > All, > > Have a technical question, I am changing out the Pad Brakes to Disc Brakes > on the front end on my 59' BE. I got it all just about together, but it > seems that the Tie Rod ends now bind against the disc dust cover - The dust covers may be bent, I remove them as they do not do much good anyway. Did you replace the king pins when you went to discs? They are different, drum brakes use a much thinner king pin and the swivel axles on a disc car have a thicker lower part of the king pin. Drum king pins on disc brake swivel axles make for a very sloppy and unsafe set up. It could be the front end is too loose now and the dust shields are hitting the tie rod ends. Or did you put the upper trunnions on backwards? You can tell just by looking at the wheel, it's tilted way off. We all have done that, some of us do it every time ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jul 4 18:21:06 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:21:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Tranny Rear Seal In-Reply-To: <101B8C7F1E14469A9713274BD9BAB923@Dell9200> Message-ID: <20090705002119.930FD187664@autox.team.net> The dust cover comes with the seal, I just cut them off flush with the seal. You can get a seal without the cover but it is a single lip instead of double lip one. I believe it is the same seal used on the input shaft of the tranny. A hacksaw will remove the cover in 30 seconds and then you have the proper double lip seal. Crash I bought a Datsun 5 speed transmission and had it shipped to my home. When it arrived the "rear extension dust cover with seal" had been bent. I easily tapped it out of the tranny housing and could probably bang it back straight but it looks like the seal and dust cover are one piece. I looked up the rear seal and the pix looks like any other seal without the dust shield cup. What should I be looking for, just a seal or a seal with the "dust" shield? Happy 4th to all!! Paul, you still selling tranny kits? Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 4 18:23:29 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 17:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook Message-ID: <681820.48398.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I ran into the same issue. Apparently there are something like 150 Bob Campions on Facebook. - David Booker --- On Sat, 7/4/09, Martin wrote: From: Martin Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook To: "'Bob Campion'" , "'Spridgets'" Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009, 2:56 PM Bob, So which file is yours on Facebook there are a few Bob Campion's -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Campion Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 11:35 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Check out my photos on Facebook Hi spridgets at autox.team.net, I set up a Facebook profile where I can post my pictures, videos and events and I want to add you as a friend so you can see it. First, you need to join Facebook! Once you join, you can also create your own profile. Thanks, Bob To sign up for Facebook, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/p.php?i=1449847761&k=RYL6QWQY3WVM5GMBRC2XY4&r spridgets at autox.team.net was invited to join Facebook by Bob Campion. If you do not wish to receive this type of email from Facebook in the future, please click on the link below to unsubscribe. http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=b3b856&u=1592314489&mid=b981ccG5ee8ca79G0G8 Facebook's offices are located at 1601 S. California Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94304. You are subscribed as cooper6 at swbell.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12750 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) Database version: 6.12750 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sat Jul 4 21:20:49 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 22:20:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rod bearing changeout Message-ID: <194ECB91E5AD44159915DDA9145F7B6B@CatheyBPC> Any suggestions on an "order" to go forward with changing out the rod bearings with the motor still in the car? The front seal failure has me concerned that I had an oil starvation problem and it might have hurt the crank. So I want to pull out all of the rod bearing caps and mike all of the journals and if needed lightly polish the journals and then hopefully I can just install new bearings and bolt it back together. Can I pull the caps and push the rods up in the bore and then mike all the journals at one time? Then I also want to check out one of the mains. There was no knocking or noises BUT the oil pressure at one point dropped to "0" and then came back up to 10 when idling. Pressure was around 35 when at RPM. I really dont want to have to pull the motor and go through all the bearings so I am wanting to verify the damage before i go to that step. Leo From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jul 4 21:46:57 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:46:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] rod bearing changeout In-Reply-To: <194ECB91E5AD44159915DDA9145F7B6B@CatheyBPC> Message-ID: Check #4 rod bearing first. From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Jul 4 23:35:49 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:35:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling question.. Message-ID: <4A4FD945.28740.7C7D0@kk7ss.verizon.net> When hot, the dual temp gauge in the Beast was indicating just under halfway between C and N. I was hoping it was a thermostat stuck open, So, this morning (before the temp wnet over 100*F outside) I changed the thermostat from 167*F to a 182*F. It still indicates halfway between C and N. ;-(( Oil pressure reading is correct. Is there a way I can calibrate the temp part of the gauge?? Or is this OK?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jul 5 07:40:52 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:40:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery nut Message-ID: <1B42D99C82FD4888AA2461640F2E8B16@Home> The bottom of my BE frame rails have large captive nuts about 1" from the front, not the sway bar mounts. My SB does not have these nuts, but they are shown in the Moss catalogue. What are they for? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 5 09:14:43 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (soavero at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 08:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] rod bearing changeout Message-ID: <195221.28053.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 7/4/09, ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > bearings and bolt it back together. Can I pull the > caps and push the rods up > in the bore and then mike all the journals at one > time? Then I also want to Leo, Yes, but much easier one at a time - less stuff flopping around. Inspection is easy, mic'ing in place is a little difficult depending on your bore gauge. Plastigauge is extremely easy to do in place. As far as the OPs go, there is definitely cause for concern. 2 weeks ago I over-revved my race motor (4 years old,and I have been really nursing it the past year or so) and was watching OP when it dropped to 50 psi at speed (vs. normal 65-70), and 30 when I lifted (usually 45 at very hot idle). I found the crank essentially snapped in half at the #4 journal. The rod was holding it together. Amazing. Ron From kramer.allen at comcast.net Sun Jul 5 10:41:04 2009 From: kramer.allen at comcast.net (kramer.allen at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil Filter In-Reply-To: <4A4FD293.2010908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1046213998.416161246812064311.JavaMail.root@sz0098a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thanks to all who replied. Allen From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 5 11:19:28 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:19:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling question.. In-Reply-To: <4A4FD945.28740.7C7D0@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A4FD945.28740.7C7D0@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4A50E0A0.9090005@comcast.net> It's easy to calibrate a temp gauge. Remove the probe from the block (or radiator), insert it in a pot of boiling water. A small pot and a propane torch can be used right at the car, watch for gas and carbs. Do not let the probe touch the sides of the pot. There is a tiny dot on the C-N-H gauges at about 5:00 on the face, you will see it if you are looking for it. This is 212*, where the needle should sit when the probe is in boiling water. Please note that I was told this is only correct at sea level where water boils at 212, and it should be distilled water so you might be off by a degree or two ;) If the needle is not where it's supposed to be, remove the bezel and glass, pop off the needle, it pulls straight off and is just a friction fit. Place the needle on 212 (or the dot) now it's calibrated. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun Jul 5 14:24:47 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 13:24:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling question.. In-Reply-To: <4A50E0A0.9090005@comcast.net> References: <4A4FD945.28740.7C7D0@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <4A50E0A0.9090005@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A50A99F.1663.D3A151@kk7ss.verizon.net> Frank, Thanks very much... one more thing... Would you happen to know how much coolant I have to drain to go below the level of the probe?? If not, then I'll just have to drain the lot... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From kgrowler at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 15:57:32 2009 From: kgrowler at gmail.com (Kim Tonry) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:57:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fighting words Message-ID: I think we need to organize a counter-protest or the MG versions of our cars won't be mentionable on the telly. I think that's discriminatory. http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/sns-ap-us-little-people-fcc,0,4990415.story Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois U.S.A. From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun Jul 5 16:01:39 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 15:01:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! Message-ID: <4A50C053.24020.B366B@kk7ss.verizon.net> The Beast has emulated the cat and has "marked" it's territory with the usual deposits (oil!) I usually cover the affected area with lots of Kitty Litter and let it slowly absorb the oil. Takes a lot of time and sweeping up. Is there a product (here in the states) that I can safely use that (1) won't further damage my already poor lungs and (2) causes minimal damage to the cement floor... and works faster than the above mentioned Kitty Litter method?? Thanks... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From jfishbein at snet.net Sun Jul 5 16:21:20 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:21:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! In-Reply-To: <4A50C053.24020.B366B@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A50C053.24020.B366B@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <5739ACB3-31F4-4A7F-9160-30DD3A133D75@snet.net> Simple Green On Jul 5, 2009, at 6:01 PM, "Dave G." wrote: > Is there a product (here in the states) that I can safely use that > (1) won't further damage my already poor lungs and (2) causes minimal > damage to the cement floor... and works faster than the above > mentioned Kitty Litter method?? > > ... > - From gjbranch at comcast.net Sun Jul 5 16:33:25 2009 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:33:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! References: <4A50C053.24020.B366B@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <013c01c9fdc0$9c743760$0301a8c0@DELL> Two products, but both are preventative: Cardboard. Leave it under until soaked, and immolate it in the driveway. If you have a gravel driveway. It's not Al Gore, but hey. "Oil sucking rags". I used to work on stationary power plants and the salesguy for oils sold us these. They are basically the same technology as Pampers, etc.....synthetic hollow fibers that SUCK via capillary action. They work great. Try a lubricant distributor. I have one under the Mini, the Meejit, the Ducati...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:01 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! > The Beast has emulated the cat and has "marked" it's territory with > the usual deposits (oil!) > > I usually cover the affected area with lots of Kitty Litter and let > it slowly absorb the oil. Takes a lot of time and sweeping up. > > Is there a product (here in the states) that I can safely use that > (1) won't further damage my already poor lungs and (2) causes minimal > damage to the cement floor... and works faster than the above > mentioned Kitty Litter method?? > > Thanks... > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gjbranch at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 17:10:04 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:10:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling question.. In-Reply-To: <4A50A99F.1663.D3A151@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A4FD945.28740.7C7D0@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4A50E0A0.9090005@comcast.net> <4A50A99F.1663.D3A151@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: Would you happen to know how much coolant I have to drain to go below the level of the probe?? If not, then I'll just have to drain the lot... Hey Dave, Even the earliest spridgets were equipped with a factory self-drain to the level of the probe... Just take the probe out and when it quits dripping, it is at the level of the probe! To get it a tad lower, stick a finger in the hole so that a little more coolant comes out... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 5 17:27:05 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:27:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline now cables In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0907022025q28c13cb5ged11254963f5b3ff@mail.gmail.com> References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907022025q28c13cb5ged11254963f5b3ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jeff Foster wrote: > Not long after I started there we had a PC that was acting really strange > and I found the inside of the case was covered with soot and particulates > from our manufacturing process (making automotive throttle and brake cables > for the Big Three). WAIT WAIT WAIT.... Jeff, Did you just say that your company makes OEM cables?????? Any chance you can get them to do a run of proper speedo and brake cables for our spridgets? Something better then the Far Eastern crap that's being sold now???? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Sun Jul 5 17:48:29 2009 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:48:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! In-Reply-To: <4A50C053.24020.B366B@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4.1.20090705194048.00d03a88@mail.bellsouth.net> Once you pick up any volume of oil, Brake Cleaner works great in removing the oil stain. Spray on and rub with a paper towel. When I had a particularly leaky Spridget, I made a frame of 1x2 furring strips around a 2' by 4' piece of scrap paneling and cut a piece of cardboard to fit inside the frame. It will accept quite a bit of volume, not leak oil through onto the concrete, won't blow in the wind, edges won't curl. It is long enough to catch any leaks from the front seal all the way back to the rear trans seal. You could even make it reach the diff if you wanted to. Depends on how much of your garage floor you (or your wife) want to keep protected. Bob At 06:01 PM 7/5/2009 , Dave G. wrote: >The Beast has emulated the cat and has "marked" it's territory with >the usual deposits (oil!) > >I usually cover the affected area with lots of Kitty Litter and let >it slowly absorb the oil. Takes a lot of time and sweeping up. > >Is there a product (here in the states) that I can safely use that >(1) won't further damage my already poor lungs and (2) causes minimal >damage to the cement floor... and works faster than the above >mentioned Kitty Litter method?? > >Thanks... >-- >Dave G. KK7SS >'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > >If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still >alive !! >_ Bob Spruck MGMaven Sharpsburg, GA 67 Midget Vintage Racer 72 Midget Street and Show 6 parts/project cars From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 18:16:09 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:16:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! In-Reply-To: <4.1.20090705194048.00d03a88@mail.bellsouth.net> References: <4A50C053.24020.B366B@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4.1.20090705194048.00d03a88@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907051716g231f8842r167ddf62f48933df@mail.gmail.com> One used to be able to buy large drip pans which were then filled with about 1/2 inch of sand or kitty litter. They were about 4 feet long and maybe 2.5 feet wide with a 3/4 inch lip all the way around. Haven't seen one in years. Anybody know where they are to be found? Currently I am using a 6' x 8' hunk of cheap indoor-outdoor carpet. Nice to lay on too! Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Bob Spruck wrote: > Once you pick up any volume of oil, Brake Cleaner works great in removing > the oil stain. Spray on and rub with a paper towel. > > When I had a particularly leaky Spridget, I made a frame of 1x2 furring > strips around a 2' by 4' piece of scrap paneling and cut a piece of > cardboard to fit inside the frame. It will accept quite a bit of volume, > not leak oil through onto the concrete, won't blow in the wind, edges won't > curl. It is long enough to catch any leaks from the front seal all the way > back to the rear trans seal. You could even make it reach the diff if you > wanted to. Depends on how much of your garage floor you (or your wife) want > to keep protected. > > Bob > > At 06:01 PM 7/5/2009 , Dave G. wrote: > >The Beast has emulated the cat and has "marked" it's territory with > >the usual deposits (oil!) > > > >I usually cover the affected area with lots of Kitty Litter and let > >it slowly absorb the oil. Takes a lot of time and sweeping up. > > > >Is there a product (here in the states) that I can safely use that > >(1) won't further damage my already poor lungs and (2) causes minimal > >damage to the cement floor... and works faster than the above > >mentioned Kitty Litter method?? > > > >Thanks... > >-- > >Dave G. KK7SS > >'65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > > >If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > >alive !! > >_ > > Bob Spruck > MGMaven > Sharpsburg, GA > 67 Midget Vintage Racer > 72 Midget Street and Show > 6 parts/project cars > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 19:01:37 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:01:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling question.. In-Reply-To: References: <4A4FD945.28740.7C7D0@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4A50E0A0.9090005@comcast.net> <4A50A99F.1663.D3A151@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <402188520907051801y157d2d09j738a6e0e14ce0417@mail.gmail.com> Frank, The gauges I have checked have two dots and I seem to recall that 212F is between the dots. David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 19:05:01 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:05:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rod bearing changeout In-Reply-To: <195221.28053.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <195221.28053.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402188520907051805r49ad5ff6ha808762b75723d95@mail.gmail.com> >> bearings and bolt it > back together. Can I pull the >> caps and push the rods up >> in the bore and > then mike all the journals at one >> time? ISTR a procedure that called for slipping pieces of plastic hose over the rod bolts when the cap is removed so that the threads do not damage the journals... David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 5 19:08:29 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:08:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907051716g231f8842r167ddf62f48933df@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A50C053.24020.B366B@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4.1.20090705194048.00d03a88@mail.bellsouth.net> <43840a7e0907051716g231f8842r167ddf62f48933df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907051808j1a29b94uca00a8feabd4b9f@mail.gmail.com> Don't be so patient with the kitty litter. Pour some on, then RUB IT IN. The sole of my flip-flop works well for this, so I suppose shoes would work as well. This powders the kitty litter and makes it far more effective. David L From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 5 19:19:21 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:19:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling question.. In-Reply-To: <402188520907051801y157d2d09j738a6e0e14ce0417@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A4FD945.28740.7C7D0@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4A50E0A0.9090005@comcast.net> <4A50A99F.1663.D3A151@kk7ss.verizon.net> <402188520907051801y157d2d09j738a6e0e14ce0417@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A515119.6010605@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > Frank, > The gauges I have checked have two dots and I seem to recall that 212F > is between the dots. > It is in the exact same spot as 212 on a numbered gauge, somewhere between 4 and 5 o-clock on the dial. So after looking at another gauge, it does have 2 dots but also a white stripe that starts in the middle of the 2 dots, I bet the start of the white stripe is 212 on this gauge. So they made 2 different types of C-N-H faces? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 5 20:01:50 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! Message-ID: <114644.2067.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I second that. If that fails, the Rustoleum concentrated concrete cleaner stuff they sell on the same shelf as their epoxy system in the big bix stores is by far the best stuff I've ever seen, but more expensive. --- On Sun, 7/5/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > litter. Pour some on, then RUB IT > IN. The sole of my flip-flop works well for this, so I > suppose shoes > would work as well. This powders the kitty litter and makes > it far > more effective. > David L From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 5 20:02:42 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:02:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907051716g231f8842r167ddf62f48933df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > large drip pans Pep Boys From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 5 20:14:50 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:14:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A515E1A.7020400@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >> large drip pans >> > Pep Boys > > Now that's not nice calling them drip pans. I know they replaced Manny, Moe, and Jack with Ching, Chang, & Wang but don't call em drip pans. I can't tell you what I call them on this public forum, -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 5 20:50:43 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 21:50:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rear window question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A516683.50400@sbcglobal.net> What material is the clear window of the soft top made of? I've got a small cut in the rear quarter lite where it meets the black vinyl next to the heat-sealed seam. I think I can glue it if I knew what kind of adhesive/solvent to use. Thanks in advance for any help. Lee From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun Jul 5 21:36:38 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:36:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! In-Reply-To: <4A515E1A.7020400@comcast.net> References: , <4A515E1A.7020400@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A510ED6.5351.22561B@kk7ss.verizon.net> Borrowed an oil drip tray from my boy with the Camaro... www.blitzusa.com Galvanized Drip Tray Item # 11430 "Great work surface for messy jobs. Keeps excess waste off of your garage, shop floor, or driveway. Made of very durable galvanized metal." Unit Dimensions 36"x 25"x 0.75" Gonna get me one from Amazon.com -- $12 NFI, etc... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun Jul 5 21:42:47 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:42:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling question.. In-Reply-To: <4A50E0A0.9090005@comcast.net> References: <4A4FD945.28740.7C7D0@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <4A50E0A0.9090005@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A511047.7847.27F6EC@kk7ss.verizon.net> It must be the wrong gauge in the Beast... The two little tick marks are between C and N, at about 7:30 o'clock!! Are there specific dual guages built for different Spridgets?? I have a 1275 motor, dual 1.25" SU's, vertical flow radiator and a 7# cap.... should that be a 15# cap.?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 06:34:35 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 05:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Midget, Sprite Timing Tape Kit Message-ID: <435614.77709.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Looks like Jeff is out of stock on this item at Advanced Distributors. I could really use one if anyone knows who else might provide one. I install my engine on the 18th and would really like to have one before then! Thanks. Edward From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 08:55:20 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:55:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline now cables In-Reply-To: References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907022025q28c13cb5ged11254963f5b3ff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907060755n266a5771wa64c90eef1650e60@mail.gmail.com> I was in their corporate IT group but am no longer with them. I refused their offer to relocate a year ago when they closed shop here and moved the operation to Matamoros, Mexico. I was quite surprised how few car guys there was working for a "tier 1 supplier" to the auto industry. They weren't interested in anything outside the major auto companies, and had no interest in any cable that they wasn't going to move a few thousand of per week. I could use new throttle and parking brake cables myself! On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM, brian S wrote: > Jeff Foster wrote: > > > > Not long after I started there we had a PC that was acting really strange > > and I found the inside of the case was covered with soot and particulates > > from our manufacturing process (making automotive throttle and brake > cables > > for the Big Three). > > > WAIT WAIT WAIT.... > Jeff, > > Did you just say that your company makes OEM cables?????? > > Any chance you can get them to do a run of proper speedo and brake cables > for our spridgets? > Something better then the Far Eastern crap that's being sold now???? > > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live : Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tr3.4.me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 09:07:55 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 08:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling question.. Message-ID: <840567.33825.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 7/5/09, Dave G. wrote: > I have a 1275 motor, dual 1.25" SU's, vertical flow > radiator and a 7# > cap.... should that be a 15# cap.?? No - stick with 7 psi cap. Ron From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 10:15:04 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. Message-ID: <983030.91093.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Jeff Foster wrote: I was quite surprised how few car guys there was working for a "tier 1 supplier" to the auto industry. Jeff, I've been in the automotive aftermarket for 20+ years with various companies and in different parts of the country. I find that this part of the industry has more than its share of gearheads who (like me) began this path at least partially in hopes of getting parts on the cheap for our toys. I'm now in New York City with Standard Motor Products, and there are even quite a few car-guys here where you may expect them least - not as big a percentage as in other companies I've been with, but still quite a few. Unfortunately, we are only a headquarters here in Queens. Because of that and the relative lack of gearheads (I'm just guessing here), there really is no employee-purchase program here to take advantage of. So much for my grand plan... P.S. - We also have "tier 1 supplier" status with Ford & GM but are mostly aftermarket, which is a very good thing with new car sales what they are right now. - David Booker '71 Midget Long Island (but working in Queens) From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 10:52:44 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 09:52:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Slave Cyl's Message-ID: <37dc82d40907060952k3a59ffffw975a140fd09dcedb@mail.gmail.com> My slave cyl finally gave it up. I tried to save it by way of taking a piece of scotch scuff placing it through a dowel end that I had cut a long notch into. . . put it on a drill and went at it. Thanks to whoever it was on the list that mentioned this idea. It held under pressure for a bit (using my Gunson Ezibleed) - then went into the toilet again. Too many little pocs inside the outer end for the thing to hold fluid. Moss has a generic type slave cyl and also the higher dollar ones. *Wondering if the lower cost Moss unit (around $45.0) is something that I should stay away from, or? * Kirk PS I love that Gunson bleeder. . makes it so easy to pressure the entire system and bleed everything starting at the rear passenger wheel. Someone on the list turned me on to it when they were on sale for around 15 bucks. As I recall, I ordered it from a Volvo site. From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 6 11:22:14 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:22:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. In-Reply-To: <983030.91093.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <983030.91093.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A5232C6.4060302@frontiernet.net> Perhaps the quality of new cars leaves something to be desired? We have seven 2009 Chevies with 25 - 40,000 miles each. All have had major problems, two have problems that seriously affect their safety and operating ability, but the dealer's shop claims to have no idea what the problems are. My van, with 25,000 miles, is on its third set of brakes, has deep-fried wiring to the headlamps, and still needs brake work. Most use copious amounts of oil, but the dealer claims this is standard. My 40 year old MG doesn't use that much! Neither do any of my 20+ year old Chrysler products, each with over 200,000 miles. All five of my vehicles together cost me around $500 a year in repair costs if I take them to a shop, yet people will ask why I don't buy a new car. I spend less per year for repairs on five vehicles than the monthly payment on one new one Kate. > > P.S. - We also have "tier 1 supplier" status with Ford & GM but are mostly > aftermarket, which is a very good thing with new car sales what they are right > now. > > - David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island (but working in Queens) From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 11:56:32 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Midget, Sprite Timing Tape Kit In-Reply-To: <435614.77709.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <435614.77709.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <878542.48667.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jeff came through on this.... Thanks, Jeff. ________________________________ From: Edward Perez To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 5:34:35 AM Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Midget, Sprite Timing Tape Kit Looks like Jeff is out of stock on this item at Advanced Distributors. I could really use one if anyone knows who else might provide one. I install my engine on the 18th and would really like to have one before then! Thanks. Edward You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 12:08:33 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 11:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II, Snohish, Washington 7/18 Message-ID: <346991.59699.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK, last call....... I'll be cutting it close on getting my engine. I pick it up next Thursday if all goes well. I had a hard time rounding up some last minute bits and pieces. It should be built to the short block, so we will need to assemble and install. Hopefully, I'll be driving it to the British Field Meet in Bellevue, WA on the 25th. My address is below. You can Google it to get directions (I recommend the fwy route rather than what Google might come up with). Otherwise, it's pretty simple. From I-5 either way (north or south), take the 128th St SE exit and go east. It will turn into 132nd and then 134th, and eventually, Cathcart Way. Approximately 7 miles to Snohomish Cascade Dr. You will see a waterfall on your right. I live in "The Falls". Turn right, go up the hill, pass the elementary school, and make the first left on 146th Pl SE, then an immediate right onto 65th Dr SE. I am the second house on the right. You won't miss it! See you all on the 18th. It's looking like a pretty good turnout. Must be the BBQ.... Bill M, please bring your 1/2 in impact wrench and all those big sockets!! I have two compressors, one floor jack, and 4 jack-stands. Bring whatever you think you might need. Looking forward to seeing/meeting you all. 14706 65th Dr SE Snohomish, WA 98296 Cell 425.591.8251 Edward So far we have the following cast of characters showing up... We'll have lots of mechanical support here. I hope to see more cars to work on so no one is left out of the fun. Please let me know what you would like to get done on your vehicle and I'll make sure to note it. We might need some specialty tools for some of the work and it's nice to know before hand. Schuck's is just down the road, Napa is not too far away also. Plenty of room in the driveway. I hope I got everyone that has responded. If I missed you, apologies! Just shoot me an email confirming and I'll update this list. Feel free to call me also. Looking forward to meeting new people and seeing the others again. Bill M - lending a hand Bill L and Son - lending a hand/windshield installation Paul A - lending a hand (and eating BBQ Pork sandwiches) Alan Inglis - Coming from Vancouver, BC - Bringing a Midget to work on Mike Burkhart - lending a hand Phil Jones - Bringing his Sprite to work on (brakes) and lending a hand John Colvin - might stop by to observe (and eat BBQ) Mike Shurtz - Tentative - might bring his '60 Sprite Rich Ball - you comin' over and bringing your car?? Me - Install engine/Transmission, tuning, and alignment Thanks, Edward Perez 14706 65th Dr SE Snohomish, WA 98296 425.591.8251 You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 6 12:13:59 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:13:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. In-Reply-To: <4A5232C6.4060302@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > Perhaps the quality of new cars leaves something to be desired? Perhaps you should just stop buying Chevys. We finally broke down and bought a Ford truck for touring because the rental places only have Chevy trucks these days, and they get lousy mileage and rarely make it through a whole tour. The last Chevy we rented had 23,000 miles on it when the tranny blew and left us stranded in Southern Illinois. The Fords typically go 300,000 miles without major problems. BZ From Charles.M.Love2 at boeing.com Mon Jul 6 12:57:32 2009 From: Charles.M.Love2 at boeing.com (EXT-Love, Charles M) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:57:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket Sealer for Intake and Carburetor gaskets? Message-ID: <004101c9fe6b$a0632e20$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Hello All; What kind of sealer do you recommend for putting the carbs and intake back together. Thanks in advance... Monty Love From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 13:01:27 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. Message-ID: <647828.66690.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Billy Zoom wrote: > Perhaps you should just stop buying Chevys. We finally > broke down and bought > a Ford truck I have an F-150 that I use for towing. I hated it as a new truck, but I love it as a 7 year old truck. In 6 months, it wore out to the condition I would expect if the truck were 3 years old or so, but it has sort of stayed that way ever since. Ron From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jul 6 13:05:23 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. Message-ID: <128435.11015.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I have a '95 K1500 and have found a certain advantage to owning a GM vehicle. You can get a service appointment the same or next day since the dealer shops are dead. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Ron Soave wrote: From: Ron Soave Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. To: "spridgets list" Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 3:01 PM --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Billy Zoom wrote: > Perhaps you should just stop buying Chevys. We finally > broke down and bought > a Ford truck I have an F-150 that I use for towing. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 6 13:22:22 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:22:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket Sealer for Intake and Carburetor gaskets? In-Reply-To: <004101c9fe6b$a0632e20$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: Gasgacinch, also available as Edelbrock Gasgacinch, but theirs doesn't have the pinup girl on the can. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 6 13:25:19 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 12:25:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. In-Reply-To: <128435.11015.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > the dealer shops I would never have a car serviced by a anyone who sells new cars. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 6 13:43:28 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:43:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry Message-ID: I have a 2000 F150 I bought new. It has been a very good truck and has 135K on it now. It has only needed a new alternator and an air conditioning compressor since new. Runs flawlessly, although it likes gasoline a little too much. It has the 5.4 liter engine and tow package that has gearing not suitable for high mileage anyway. Drove it to LOTO last year towing a trailer and 4 adults. No problems, but don't ask how much the gas was. This was during the $5 per gallon days of last year. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2- Hide quoted text - On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > the dealer shops I would never have a car serviced by a anyone who sells new cars. __ From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jul 6 13:43:31 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 12:43:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. Message-ID: <231140.58916.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> I hear ya, but after back-to-back bad experiences with different independent shops with the truck, I have reluctantly gone to the dealer with it. I got scr*wed by a transmission shop that replaced a "module" at a cost of $275 only to find later it was a wiring problem. Prior to that, I had a terrible noise under acceleration, that my regular shop claimed they "couldn't hear" that was later found to be a bad U-Joint. They aren't my regular shop anymore, for that a couple of other "reasons". Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Billy Zoom wrote: From: Billy Zoom Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. To: "Jay Fishbein" , "spridgets list" Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 3:25 PM > the dealer shops I would never have a car serviced by a anyone who sells new cars. From gjbranch at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 14:20:13 2009 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:20:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express 6 Help: NO LBC Message-ID: <006101c9fe77$2b7f34d0$0301a8c0@DELL> I can't delete messages from my inbox in Outlook Express 6. This just started today. Of course, being well used to Microsoft, I've rebooted hard with no change. Anyone have any similar? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 14:46:25 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:46:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express 6 Help: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <006101c9fe77$2b7f34d0$0301a8c0@DELL> References: <006101c9fe77$2b7f34d0$0301a8c0@DELL> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907061346j84b4765jb2e1f88855c37a3d@mail.gmail.com> Geoff, Google: "outlook express 6 can't delete message in inbox" Its a well known problem. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Geoff Branch wrote: > I can't delete messages from my inbox in Outlook Express 6. This just > started > today. Of course, being well used to Microsoft, I've rebooted hard with no > change. > > Anyone have any similar? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 15:12:34 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:12:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket Sealer for Intake and Carburetor gaskets? In-Reply-To: <8F1BB74D50D20946B9BAD16E4F483382053C48A1@XCH-SEEXT-10.se.nos.boeing.com> References: <8F1BB74D50D20946B9BAD16E4F483382053C48A1@XCH-SEEXT-10.se.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <4A5268C2.4000200@comcast.net> EXT-Love, Charles M wrote: > Hello All; > > What kind of sealer do you recommend for putting the carbs and intake > back together. > > > None. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From cclabaw at juno.com Mon Jul 6 15:08:46 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:08:46 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! Message-ID: <20090706.140846.24706.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Dave G." To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil on garage floor... removal there-of ! Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 20:36:38 -0700 Dave - I've had pretty good luck with "Pour'n Restore" from Ace Hardware. It's a paste that you spread with a brush, then picks up oil, etc. and becomes dust when it dries out. Just sweep it up. Clay L. '67 Sprite Borrowed an oil drip tray from my boy with the Camaro... www.blitzusa.com Galvanized Drip Tray Item # 11430 "Great work surface for messy jobs. Keeps excess waste off of your garage, shop floor, or driveway. Made of very durable galvanized metal." Unit Dimensions 36"x 25"x 0.75" Gonna get me one from Amazon.com -- $12 NFI, etc... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Click now to get the general liability insurance you need to protect yourself! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbjXAu32ojpbQha3DxPzG4ZBat 1wUxWkQKohog4iprSqxCgA1eJC/ From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 15:18:20 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 15:18:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket Sealer for Intake and Carburetor gaskets? In-Reply-To: <004101c9fe6b$a0632e20$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> References: <004101c9fe6b$a0632e20$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910907061418i1c84c66m4434a89b3c6eeb80@mail.gmail.com> I like Hylomar. It seals and preserves gaskets so they can be re-used most times. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 15:24:04 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 17:24:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner Message-ID: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's now have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next 17 years or so. I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, and I am sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. Frank A. Clarici 5th 7 lbs 4 ozs 20" long Everybody is doing just great. I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and discuss what color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 15:25:33 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:25:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket Sealer for Intake and Carburetor gaskets? In-Reply-To: <4A5268C2.4000200@comcast.net> References: <8F1BB74D50D20946B9BAD16E4F483382053C48A1@XCH-SEEXT-10.se.nos.boeing.com> <4A5268C2.4000200@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907061425w752fd302vba600e4f28f68c95@mail.gmail.com> I'm with Frank. About the only stuff I'd ever put there would be Hylomar which doesn't set up hard, stays tacky and is easily removed. As long as your carb flanges and intake manifold are not warped you shouldn't need anything in there. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Frank wrote: > EXT-Love, Charles M wrote: > >> Hello All; >> >> What kind of sealer do you recommend for putting the carbs and intake >> back together. >> >> >> >> > None. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 15:31:11 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:31:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2009 Chevies Message-ID: <37dc82d40907061431v11406270qa19670fb42bfda9e@mail.gmail.com> Kate, Scary story on the new Chevy's. . .I thought they were "Like a Rock?" I guess more like a "millstone around your neck?" My 2001 Chevy Xtreme truck which is basically an S10 factory lowered 2 inches with limited slip. . I bought it new and have kept the oil changed. Large V6. . . 4.3 or something like that. 105 thousand miles. Lost one fuel pump (probably partially my fault for running too often with low fuel in the tank, lubrication of the pump, cooling)? The part alone was $600 bucks. . good thing I had just come into a windfall at the time of 106k. If it goes again I am going to cut out the truck bed to get to it - make a hinged door out of my cut out. . replace the pump, put the liner back in and forget about it. Two electric motors for the drivers side electric window replaced under warranty and three door handle mechanisms replaced on the small drivers side third door. This stopped after I began to remember to push the door in a bit every time I open it. Other than that, it runs like the day I bought it. It also does not use oil. The oil level always stays the same, right on the mark. Keeping my fingers crossed. The neighbor across the street has a Chevy truck with near 300k on it and doing well. . no major issues through the years. Like mine, *mostly long distance freeway miles. * Kirk PS Wife is on her second PT Cruiser (made in Toluca Mexico). Not much to say about the PT's other than poor build quality. Her first one was going in the toilet after 50k on the odometer. But this is the only car she has ever wanted in her life. . so we keep buying them. Her current PT has a small turbo which does help the anemic engine get up and move much better. I don't like to be seen driving it. From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 15:35:33 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:35:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gasket Sealer for Intake and Carburetor gaskets? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907061425w752fd302vba600e4f28f68c95@mail.gmail.com> References: <8F1BB74D50D20946B9BAD16E4F483382053C48A1@XCH-SEEXT-10.se.nos.boeing.com> <4A5268C2.4000200@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907061425w752fd302vba600e4f28f68c95@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907061435o3bcd203dvca3ca36b77bd5f3@mail.gmail.com> I usually dip the carb gaskets in motor oil before installation. They seal well and are generally re-usable. David L From kristi74midget at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 15:37:48 2009 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:37:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7150966C-E870-4DBD-8639-78982F67E179@comcast.net> Congrats Frank, Glad to hear all are doing well. Good luck and have fun!!!!!. Kristi, Lambert, Wynter and Baby Liebel On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Frank wrote: > Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's > now have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next > 17 years or so. > I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, > and I am sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. > > Frank A. Clarici 5th > 7 lbs 4 ozs > 20" long > Everybody is doing just great. > I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and > discuss what color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) > Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and > Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kristi74midget at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jul 6 15:38:44 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:38:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1246916324.4492.200.camel@WebBrowser> My daughter was riding 2 wheelers without the training wheels before I finished restoring the tricycle, so hurry up and get to it, they grow up FAST !!! very fast ! congratulations ! mike On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 17:24 -0400, Frank wrote: > Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and > Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jul 6 15:41:06 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner Message-ID: <809682.59596.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Congrats Grampa! --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Frank wrote: From: Frank Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner To: "Spridgets" , "Buster Evans" Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 5:24 PM Has arrived today From richb at u.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 15:42:31 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:42:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: Congratulations Frank! I was a little apprehensive about becoming a Grandfather when my son broke the news to us, but I will say that it have been a joy watching our Granddaughter and now Grandson grow up. Can't believe it's been almost five years now. Again, congratulations and with the mother and father well. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Spridgets" ; "Buster Evans" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner > Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's now > have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next 17 years > or so. > I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, and I am > sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. > > Frank A. Clarici 5th > 7 lbs 4 ozs > 20" long > Everybody is doing just great. > I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and discuss what > color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) > Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and Radio > Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 6 15:45:45 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:45:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49105EA17DBB42A4A290A7D41705F7F9@spider> Congratulations. Being a grandpa is better than being a dad. Doesn't cost as much, and you can hand the kid back when you've had enough. Got seat belts? ...bill in oregon ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:24 PM To: Spridgets; Buster Evans Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's now have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next 17 years or so. I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, and I am sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. Frank A. Clarici 5th 7 lbs 4 ozs 20" long Everybody is doing just great. I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and discuss what color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites _______________________________________________ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Jul 6 15:52:23 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 14:52:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite Owner Message-ID: Congrats Frank. As if you don't have enough Sprites in the family! Mike MacLean From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 6 16:16:49 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:16:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 2009 Chevies In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907061431v11406270qa19670fb42bfda9e@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907061431v11406270qa19670fb42bfda9e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5277D1.1060201@frontiernet.net> I have a 1976 C-30 that will probably run forever, but with a 12' flat bed, it's really not suitable for a daily driver. The 7mpg also relegates him to use as a hay hauler and not much else. A friend is presently using him as an engine rebuild platform. My 1989 F-350 crew cab is my trailer puller, gets slightly better mileage that the Chevy, and has needed a heater core and starter in the years I have had him. He uses a little over a quart of oil between changes. My 1989 Cherokee, which is my daily driver, has needed one alternator, two fuel pumps, a 4WD actuator, a brain, and a passenger window motor. He also gets almost 30mpg on the highway (I swear officer, I have no idea where the emissions components went.), and uses less than a quart of oil between changes. Barry, my 1989 LeBaron convertible, needed a head gasket last winter, and I put on a timing belt at the same time, so he should be good for a long time to come. He is going to Idaho this month for a new top and some pleasure cruising. Madge, the 1972 Midget, is on her fourth engine, which still does not leak or burn oil. I must have made a serious mistake when I put it together. In my opinion, the new cars are being made to be a disposable item. A person is not expected to keep them longer than 2 - 3 years, and is certainly not expected to do any of his own maintenance. Every manufacturer seems to use the same computer program to design their body shells, and one must read the label to know what is parked next to you. 20 - 30 years ago, a manufacturer took pride in their product and bragged on how long they would last. Kate Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Kate, > > > Scary story on the new Chevy's. . .I thought they were "Like a Rock?" > I guess more like a "millstone around your neck?" From derbydave at cox.net Mon Jul 6 16:31:27 2009 From: derbydave at cox.net (derbydave) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:31:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] (no subject) Message-ID: <75974397D14940559D674EAA2A759370@Dave> derbydave at cox.net From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Jul 6 14:10:26 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:10:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. In-Reply-To: References: <4A5232C6.4060302@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <04bf01c9fe75$cd77a990$1801010a@xp> Hey, I just bought a GMC Yukon to replace my old Tahoe that had 300k miles on it before it was totaled a while back. I figure now is a good time to buy a Government Motors vehicle. I'm not sure which gubment agency to take it to for service, but I want to thank you all for your tax dollars in support of my vehicle choice. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 2:14 PM To: Kathryn Bales Cc: spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] was Shell Gasoline, then cables, now gearheads in the industry. > Perhaps the quality of new cars leaves something to be desired? Perhaps you should just stop buying Chevys. We finally broke down and bought a Ford truck for touring because the rental places only have Chevy trucks these days, and they get lousy mileage and rarely make it through a whole tour. The last Chevy we rented had 23,000 miles on it when the tranny blew and left us stranded in Southern Illinois. The Fords typically go 300,000 miles without major problems. BZ You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Jul 6 16:57:26 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:57:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite Owner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A521EE6.26603.70787B@kk7ss.verizon.net> Congratulations, Frank... Remember; "Grandchildren are God's reward for not killing your own" ;-)) And I second another listers' comment --- they grow up too fast ;-( After two marriages and two divorces... 8 children, 9 grandchildren, 3 great-grandchildren... and I love 'em all..... ;-)) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 17:13:04 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner Message-ID: <77106.78848.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Congrats to you and Grandma Di! Ron, Lynette and the boys --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Frank wrote: > From: Frank > Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner > To: "Spridgets" , "Buster Evans" > Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 4:24 PM > Has arrived today making me a first > time grandpop and the Clarici's now have a 4th generation > Sprite driver, w From nases at verizon.net Mon Jul 6 17:26:53 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:26:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <15AEE55D-BD6A-4621-BFA7-FE9C91504EA2@verizon.net> Congratulations Frank and Diane. Pass our best wishes on to Frankie , Jen and Frank the 5th. Phil & Jane Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:24 PM, Frank wrote: > Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's > now have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next > 17 years or so. > I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, > and I am sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. > > Frank A. Clarici 5th > 7 lbs 4 ozs > 20" long > Everybody is doing just great. > I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and > discuss what color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) > Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and > Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 6 17:43:17 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:43:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC--- Thoughts Message-ID: <1023655138.20090706164317@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Watching clouds loiter overhead. "Dad, why are we here?" Jim replied: "That's something I've thought about a lot lately, son. I think we're here to teach kids to bunt, to eat sunflower seeds without using your hands, to look all over for my golf ball, give up, and then find it in the hole. We're here to wear our favorite sweat-soaked ball cap, torn sweatshirt, and Converse sneakers; to tie the perfect fly, make the perfect cast, catch nothing, and still have a perfect day. We're here to win a stuffed animal or go broke trying. The meaning of life is not worrying about what comes after death but savoring the tiny moments that come before it. We're here to be there when our kid has three goals and an assist, but especially when he doesn't. I won't say on my deathbed, 'I wish I'd spent more time at the office;' I'll say, 'I got this scar stealing home!' We're not here to spend our time slaving toward better cars and the perfect house. We're not here to find a way to heaven; the way is heaven. Does that answer your question, son?" The boy looked at his father and said, "Not really, Dad. What I meant is: why are we here.. when we were supposed to pick up Mom a half hour ago" -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "I wouldn't give that a grade of A," Tom said beratingly. (*2) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 18:33:52 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:33:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907061733n3bdc22c6vf8631160e2a14c32@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations!! You're gonna love being a grandpa. Tell Frankie & Jen congrats from Carolyn and me out here in the hinterlands!! Hopefully the kid won't inherit Grandpa's good looks... ;-) Don't forget to do the Schwinn too! Cheers!! Jim & Carolyn On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Frank wrote: > > Frank A. Clarici 5th > 7 lbs 4 ozs > 20" long From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 19:18:10 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <782197773.963581246929490264.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> CONGRATS!!! give our regards to mom dad and grandmom from us the kubanoff's ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Spridgets" , "Buster Evans" Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 5:24:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's now have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next 17 years or so. I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, and I am sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. Frank A. Clarici 5th 7 lbs 4 ozs 20" long Everybody is doing just great. I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and discuss what color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Mon Jul 6 19:23:29 2009 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:23:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] interesting old article. Message-ID: <29803.81011.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Probably , most of you are familiar with this story..but just in case... escaping East Berlin in a Sprite. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,830344,00.html?iid=chix-sphe re Andy _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 19:28:47 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 18:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner Message-ID: <915833.25199.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Congratulations Frank and Diane and Frankie and Jen and Auntie T. Seventeen years till he needs a Sprite? Heck, you barely have a few months to find and restore an appropriate pedal car... Has anybody ever seen a bugeye pedal car before? - David Booker 71 ex-Frank Midget Long Island --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Frank wrote: From: Frank Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner To: "Spridgets" , "Buster Evans" Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 4:24 PM Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's now have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next 17 years or so. I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, and I am sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. Frank A. Clarici 5th 7 lbs 4 ozs 20" long Everybody is doing just great. I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and discuss what color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 19:34:05 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:34:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline now cables In-Reply-To: <002c01c9fdd2$e2a392a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net><7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907022025q28c13cb5ged11254963f5b3ff@mail.gmail.com> <002c01c9fdd2$e2a392a0$f675fea9@p0k7l8> Message-ID: Hi Paul, That's good to know that you have good ones. Do they make brake cables that don't stretch into uselessness after 3 uses too?? Not that I need one yet, but I'm sure Franks will be a good customer for both with the amount of Spridgets he restores. Then again, if you have both also, that would cut down real list traffic alot, reverting to more off topic stuff. heheheheh Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! and who now needs to save up for a 5 spd :-) > From: PAsgeirsson at att.net > To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline now cables > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:44:13 -0800 > > Hi Brian, > > What do you expect from a $14.95 speedo cable? > > I can supply them for $37.50. Only trouble is, they last a real lifetime!! > All American made by genuine craftsmen! way better than OEM types! > > Problem is, they'll kill all the discussions about speedo cables not > lasting!! > > Later, Paul A > > _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 19:38:40 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:38:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline now cables In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0907060755n266a5771wa64c90eef1650e60@mail.gmail.com> References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907022025q28c13cb5ged11254963f5b3ff@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0907060755n266a5771wa64c90eef1650e60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Gee Jeff, Brad says Mexico is beautiful!! ;-) Not surprised that they wouldn't want to make anything like the low volume that a run of stuff for our cars would use. Not enough money in it to probably pay for the tooling. Too many bean counters in much of the auto industry, not enough car guys. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! I was in their corporate IT group but am no longer with them. I refused their offer to relocate a year ago when they closed shop here and moved the operation to Matamoros, Mexico. I was quite surprised how few car guys there was working for a "tier 1 supplier" to the auto industry. They weren't interested in anything outside the major auto companies, and had no interest in any cable that they wasn't going to move a few thousand of per week. I could use new throttle and parking brake cables myself! On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM, brian S wrote: Jeff Foster wrote: > Not long after I started there we had a PC that was acting really strange > and I found the inside of the case was covered with soot and particulates > from our manufacturing process (making automotive throttle and brake cables > for the Big Three). WAIT WAIT WAIT.... Jeff, Did you just say that your company makes OEM cables?????? Any chance you can get them to do a run of proper speedo and brake cables for our spridgets? Something better then the Far Eastern crap that's being sold now???? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 19:43:32 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:43:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Slave Cyl's In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907060952k3a59ffffw975a140fd09dcedb@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907060952k3a59ffffw975a140fd09dcedb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >From what I've heard Kirk, spend the extra few bucks and get the higher quality Lockheed one. But not from Moss, get it from Peter or Ed. It's about the same price as the cheap one from Mo$$ Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com > > Moss has a generic type slave cyl and also the higher dollar ones. > > *Wondering if the lower cost Moss unit (around $45.0) is something that I > should stay away from, or? > * > Kirk > > > PS > I love that Gunson bleeder. . makes it so easy to pressure the entire system > and bleed everything starting at the rear passenger wheel. Someone on the > list turned me on to it when they were on sale for around 15 bucks. > As I recall, I ordered it from a Volvo site. > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 19:48:24 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:48:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? Message-ID: <1180980977.976691246931304418.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> he seems to have fallen off the planet. I can't get in touch with him by email or phone. Ed if your around call or email me. Ryan From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 6 19:50:23 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:50:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: CONGRATS Frank!! Give our best to Frankie, Jen and Diane also!! So is it going to be Grandpa, or Pop?? Gonna need the wagon before you need the trike, well maybe... You do have a "little" time to find him the right Spridget tho. Enjoy him, they do grow up fast, my Baby boy will start driving in a few month's. How'd THAT happen so fast????? Would like a spridget, or Mustang we'll see... Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:24:04 -0400 > From: spritenut at comcast.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner > > Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's now > have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next 17 > years or so. > I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, and I > am sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. > > Frank A. Clarici 5th > 7 lbs 4 ozs > 20" long > Everybody is doing just great. > I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and discuss > what color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) > Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and > Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Jul 6 19:51:53 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:51:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner References: <782197773.963581246929490264.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <29B6BC52865B44F89032C2FCBDDA80F5@Dell9200> Congratulations Gramps! There is nothing better than Grandchildren, you can spoil them all you want and then send them home. I call it getting even for all of the things my kids did to me. We have 2 and one on the way in December. The way I figure it you can build 64 (three months each) more Spridgets before he will be able to drive, you might get it right by then!! :) Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Spridgets" , "Buster Evans" Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 5:24:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's now have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next 17 years or so. I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, and I am sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. Frank A. Clarici 5th 7 lbs 4 ozs 20" long Everybody is doing just great. I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and discuss what color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites _______________________________________________ From derbydave at cox.net Mon Jul 6 19:53:06 2009 From: derbydave at cox.net (derbydave) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 20:53:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holley Carb Problem References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907061733n3bdc22c6vf8631160e2a14c32@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44FEB84732D343ACB57D47F434F1A7C9@Dave> Hey all.. I am new Spridget member with a new (to me) 1959 Bugeye with a problem. The problem is a Holley 45 DCOE 13 carb I cannot keep adjusted it has continually ran rich (black deposit on exhaust tail pipe and also on spark plugs). The engine is a 1275cc. Let me know if you need additional info. Thanks in advance for any help. Also Grandpa... Dave A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner > Congratulations!! You're gonna love being a grandpa. Tell Frankie & Jen > congrats from Carolyn and me out here in the hinterlands!! Hopefully the > kid won't inherit Grandpa's good looks... ;-) > > Don't forget to do the Schwinn too! > > Cheers!! > Jim & Carolyn > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Frank wrote: >> >> Frank A. Clarici 5th >> 7 lbs 4 ozs >> 20" long > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as derbydave at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 19:54:32 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:54:32 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... Message-ID: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> i am driving a stock 1275 '74. on the highway i am concerned to push past 4k rpm's for any length of time. I also have a minor oil burn that i attribute to valve guides and recessed core plugs in the head. At some point i will "refresh" the engine not that i know what the hell that actually means but it sounds good. what if anything can be done to improve highway speeds without going to a 3+k 5 speed. i think I am doing about 70 at 4k rpm's i just want to do 80mph for highway driving especially considering MG2009 in toronto and the midget 50th in wisconsin. thanks ryan '74 midget From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 20:00:54 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 22:00:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget sell 4 free Message-ID: <4A52AC56.30802@comcast.net> I am currently working on a 72 Midget, it was just a tub and my buddy just brought over the donor car, another RWA Midget that I have to take all the stuff off of and put it on the freshly painted shell. So he said I can have the tub, I don't want it. It is a serious project. A blue tarp special so it's rusted from the top down. Sills are OK but the fenders, doors, bonnet and what used to be a lip to hold the top all need lots of attention. Did I say lots of attention? I mean this is a metal workers dream come true or a nice candidate for an Arkley kit but the doors still need work. It will have stock wheels and roll, maybe a harness if the one on the good tub works, and some other minor bits and pieces. It will be stripped out in a week or so and I need it out of here. It is rusty but I have restored worse. Free to who ever wants it but you have to come get it in NJ. Spend a day at the beach and bring home a real project. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 20:00:07 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: <1180980977.976691246931304418.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1180980977.976691246931304418.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <764670.71532.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> lots of us out here.....which one you lookin' for? To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 6:48:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? he seems to have fallen off the planet. I can't get in touch with him by email or phone. Ed if your around call or email me. Ryan You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Mon Jul 6 19:59:43 2009 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (mdmyers_ct) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:59:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] interesting old article. Message-ID: <20090706.190032.18162.14398@mailpop06.vgs.untd.com> I actually saw the exhibit on this in the Checkpoint Charlie Museum in Berlin back in 1998. As a result of this escape they added vertical posts downward from the bar. There was also a display of another vehicle escape where a man hid his girlfriend inside the passenger seat of a Mini. Mike Myers Watertown CT ____________________________________________________________ You have a right to seek justice! Click here to find experienced lawyers across the USA. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTOhjX5gyUN6ItNXIjyvH4SwOMiaYGo76zneEdPtaSmrNP6QT1Xpde/ From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 20:07:33 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 02:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: <764670.71532.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1614995603.983221246932453058.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> special ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "ryan kubanoff" , spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 10:00:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? lots of us out here.....which one you lookin' for? From: "ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 6:48:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? he seems to have fallen off the planet. I can't get in touch with him by email or phone. Ed if your around call or email me. Ryan _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 20:10:30 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: <1614995603.983221246932453058.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1614995603.983221246932453058.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <121277.4859.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> He retired. He now has an internet business selling spares for short buses. To: Edward Perez Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 7:07:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? special ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "ryan kubanoff" , spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 10:00:07 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? lots of us out here.....which one you lookin' for? To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 6:48:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? he seems to have fallen off the planet. I can't get in touch with him by email or phone. Ed if your around call or email me. Ryan You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 20:20:38 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:20:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... In-Reply-To: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <922639.20309.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I would do a serious engine analysis and get the compression numbers and run a leak-down test. See where you stand. If you have solid numbers, you might see a little more life out of it. I'm in the process of "refreshing" my engine and the head work is the brunt of the expense. My exhaust valves were buried in the head pretty bad. Not sure how long you can run without risking long term damage. You might find a quick fix out on ebay. Old Grey Norm seems to post some pretty decent ones every now and then. They go for around $60-$80 bucks. To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 6, 2009 6:54:32 PM Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... i am driving a stock 1275 '74. on the highway i am concerned to push past 4k rpm's for any length of time. I also have a minor oil burn that i attribute to valve guides and recessed core plugs in the head. At some point i will "refresh" the engine not that i know what the hell that actually means but it sounds good. what if anything can be done to improve highway speeds without going to a 3+k 5 speed. i think I am doing about 70 at 4k rpm's i just want to do 80mph for highway driving especially considering MG2009 in toronto and the midget 50th in wisconsin. thanks ryan '74 midget You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 6 20:23:03 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (soavero at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... Message-ID: <170094.60245.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/6/09, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > to a 3+k 5 speed. i think I am doing about 70 at 4k rpm's i > just want to do 80mph for highway driving especially > considering MG2009 in toronto and the midget 50th in > wisconsin. Ryan, You'll need to disconnect the tachometer. Seriously, even with a 3.7 rear, you can't get 4000 RPM at 80 MPH, even if you had 175/70 tires. That will get you 73 MPH at 4000 RPM at best. Ron From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 20:25:02 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:25:02 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Dung Forged Steel revisitied... Message-ID: <9597A658FA4A488D8D9E12D58533E409@blackbox2> I was investigating TIG welders and I came across this interesting pdf on Miller's website... http://www.millerwelds.com/pdf/WorldofMetals.pdf "The hardening methods used for these steel swords of Damascus were not carried down to us through history from antiquity. However, one method used for hardening this steel that has come down to us is this: the blades were heated to a red heat and, after they were shaped, were placed in camel dung much as modern steel is heated in an ammonia atmosphere to form a thin layer of nitrogen bearing surface steel. Today we call it nitriding of steel." Unbelievable... From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 6 20:26:49 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:26:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: <1180980977.976691246931304418.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: > he seems to have fallen off the planet Well, if anyone could... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 20:27:33 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:27:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline now cables In-Reply-To: References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907022025q28c13cb5ged11254963f5b3ff@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0907060755n266a5771wa64c90eef1650e60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Costa Ligre IS, there is NO WAY you would lure me to a border town these days!!!! On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM, brian S wrote: > Gee Jeff, > > Brad says Mexico is beautiful!! ;-) > Not surprised that they wouldn't want to make anything like > the low volume that a run of stuff for our cars would use. > Not enough money in it to probably pay for the tooling. > Too many bean counters in much of the auto industry, > not enough car guys. > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > > > I was in their corporate IT group but am no longer with them. I refused > their > offer to relocate a year ago when they closed shop here and moved the > operation to Matamoros, Mexico. > > I was quite surprised how few car guys there was working for a "tier 1 > supplier" to the auto industry. > > They weren't interested in anything outside the major auto companies, and > had > no interest in any cable that they wasn't going to move a few thousand of > per > week. > > I could use new throttle and parking brake cables myself! > > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 6:27 PM, brian S wrote: > > Jeff Foster wrote: > > > > Not long after I started there we had a PC that was acting really strange > > > and I found the inside of the case was covered with soot and particulates > > from our manufacturing process (making automotive throttle and brake > cables > > for the Big Three). > > > WAIT WAIT WAIT.... > > Jeff, > > Did you just say that your company makes OEM cables?????? > > Any chance you can get them to do a run of proper speedo and brake cables > for our spridgets? > Something better then the Far Eastern crap that's being sold now???? > > > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live : Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 21:21:06 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:21:06 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... In-Reply-To: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A52BF22.8030808@comcast.net> ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > i am driving a stock 1275 '74. on the highway i am concerned to push past 4k rpm's for any length of time. Ryan The 1275 sweet spot is 4200 rpms, and it will run at that speed all day long. 4500 is probably 80 mph with a 3.9 which is what you have. It is a bit fast for all day driving but Ok for short bursts. The machinist I use knows 1275s and for a couple of 300 bucks, he will do everything it needs if you supply the parts. $100 for the head work, you supply the guides, $30 a hole to bore it if it needs it and he will polish the crank at the shop. If the crank needs to be cut, he sends it out. He also installs the pistons on the rods which is another machine shop job unless you have the oven to heat the rods to remove and replace the pistons. I also have a couple of spare heads if you want me to drop one off to him for a head job. Then you can just swap them out. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jul 6 22:27:02 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (Mike Rambour) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:27:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] a favor from a UK member please Message-ID: <4A52CE96.2020902@b2systems.com> My daughter is in France right now and not finding a magazine I asked her to get for me. I wonder if I could bother someone in the U.K. to get me a magazine and mail it to me. I could PayPal you the money ASAP (plus shipping and PayPal fees of course). I think PayPal would be the easiest way to get you the money but I am willing to entertain other ideas. I am looking for the July 2009 (current) issue of "The Automobile", this issue features the Singer 1.5 Litre cars and owning both a Singer Le Mans and a 1.5, I really would like a copy. The Le Mans is being butchered with a Spridget motor as I plan on driving it very regularly but the 1.5 will keep its motor and I would like to read what they have to say about the car. You can see a copy of the cover here http://www.rambour.com/monica.jpg If my daughter finds one, I will have 2 copies but she has looked the last few days and now found it yet. No need to foul up the list, you can reply off list. mike From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 22:55:02 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:55:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Detectives Approached my daughter and son in law last week about drug money, a million dollars. . check this out Message-ID: <37dc82d40907062155u4cea9813v5de50ac6accf2bfc@mail.gmail.com> Interesting story that I thought I would share. . I do not have the results yet. I am waiting on the result of detectives who approached my daughter and son in law last week. They got info on a cold case that up to a million dollars of drug money is inside of the wall that is in their kitchen - in the house that they are renting. I believe that they are going to be there tomorrow to tear into the wall. The money was supposed to have been hidden there 7 years ago. All these years my daughter and son in law might have been eating meals and sitting at that table paying bills while a million dollars cash might have been about two feet away. My son in law and I were scheming this weekend about how we might get to the money via the crawl space above the wall. . but of course we decided that the risk of moving the brief case or the bag that the money is in would also result in movement noted in the area. And of course we would not try anything. . but it was hard not to think about it. I will let you know if the detectives find anything. The guy who owns the house happened to be in town and told the detectives that he would be there when they got into the wall. The detectives did not want him there. . but he insisted. He also told my son in law that if they find anything, "it is his". . and that he would fight them in court. I don't think the guy would stand a chance of claiming drug money, even though he owned the house before the money was supposedly placed there. . .it is an interesting story to say the least! Kirk From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 22:58:41 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 21:58:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Congrats Message-ID: <37dc82d40907062158l410ba121l5f74f60a6414e169@mail.gmail.com> Frank, What a blessing. . I have two girls - one age 2 and the other 5 via my daughter and her husband and another one on the way via my youngest son and his wife, a boy due this August. Grandchildren are such a blessing. . so much fun and so "returnable" at the right time. "Children are the heritage of the Lord, the fruit of the womb is His reward." Kirk From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:20:14 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:20:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... In-Reply-To: <4A52BF22.8030808@comcast.net> References: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A52BF22.8030808@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907062220l1f666666nf28af01f6b2fdc67@mail.gmail.com> Hmmmm.... My 68 Midget with a 1275 and 3.9 dif doesn't come close to that speed. It is in peices in the garage at the moment, but when I last had it out for a drive it was doing 60 mph at red line on the tach. WTF? It's been that way ever since I got it 4 years ago. Like Ryan I figure on "refreshing" (love that word!) the engine though it is only supposed to have about 6.000 miles on it per the PO. The main problem it has is serious oil leakage. It runs very well but apparently something is screwy per the tach/speedo numbers you guys are talking about. WTF would cause this? Is the tach reading too high? It idles perfectly at around 800-900 rpm indicated when warm. I know the speedo is correct - I had Carolyn follow me at several different speeds and it is very close to what her new PU showed. Also, it is very free reving and wants to go past red line. I changed out the 4.22 dif for the 3.9 dif last spring - no difference. Downhill with a tail wind I can get 65 mph at red line but that's it. All ideas welcome.... Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Frank wrote: > ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > >> i am driving a stock 1275 '74. on the highway i am concerned to push past >> 4k rpm's for any length of time. >> > Ryan > > The 1275 sweet spot is 4200 rpms, and it will run at that speed all day > long. > 4500 is probably 80 mph with a 3.9 which is what you have. It is a bit fast > for all day driving but Ok for short bursts. > The machinist I use knows 1275s and for a couple of 300 bucks, he will do > everything it needs if you supply the parts. > $100 for the head work, you supply the guides, $30 a hole to bore it if it > needs it and he will polish the crank at the shop. > If the crank needs to be cut, he sends it out. He also installs the pistons > on the rods which is another machine shop job unless you have the oven to > heat the rods to remove and replace the pistons. > I also have a couple of spare heads if you want me to drop one off to him > for a head job. Then you can just swap them out. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:30:47 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:30:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shell Gasoline now cables In-Reply-To: References: <200907021444.n62EiJoL001983@green.excel.net> <7lku3e$6df84e@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907022025q28c13cb5ged11254963f5b3ff@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0907060755n266a5771wa64c90eef1650e60@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907062230v4a133678ve8da7807c68f37cc@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM, brian S wrote: > Brad says Mexico is beautiful!! ;-) He can HAVE it ... just send me some good tequila every now and then! ;-) > Not enough money in it to probably pay for the tooling. That's the problem exactly. Which is why most of the new cables 'designed' today use as many of the existing end fittings as possible instead of actually designing anything new. > Too many bean counters in much of the auto industry, And not very good bean counters (and even worse "executives") as you can tell from the mess they're in today! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:52:06 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:52:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holley Carb Problem In-Reply-To: <44FEB84732D343ACB57D47F434F1A7C9@Dave> References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907061733n3bdc22c6vf8631160e2a14c32@mail.gmail.com> <44FEB84732D343ACB57D47F434F1A7C9@Dave> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907062252h56407d80pd40f202dffa60897@mail.gmail.com> Dave, Welcome to the Spridgets list!! I see you found us okay. You forgot to mention the dual point dizzy... And I forgot to ask you if the black deposit was dry or wet. Oil foul? Choke sticking? Somebody here will have an answer for you... Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:53 PM, derbydave wrote: > Hey all.. > > I am new Spridget member with a new (to me) 1959 Bugeye with a problem. > > The problem is a Holley 45 DCOE 13 carb I cannot keep adjusted it has > continually ran rich (black deposit on exhaust tail pipe and also on spark > plugs). The engine is a 1275cc. Let me know if you need additional info. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Also Grandpa... > > Dave A. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner > > > Congratulations!! You're gonna love being a grandpa. Tell Frankie & Jen >> congrats from Carolyn and me out here in the hinterlands!! Hopefully the >> kid won't inherit Grandpa's good looks... ;-) >> >> Don't forget to do the Schwinn too! >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim & Carolyn >> >> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Frank wrote: >> >>> >>> Frank A. Clarici 5th >>> 7 lbs 4 ozs >>> 20" long >>> >> ______________ From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jul 6 23:55:34 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:55:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907062255r28751ec0g3ba9d3bcc820bce1@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations to you Frank...and to the new Mom & Dad. Why wait until he has a drivers license, dirt bike when he's six or so works great. That's what I did to/for/with my son. Now, twenty-eight years after that, he 'pilots' just about anything he wants! Enjoy, Herb From bkitterer at me.com Tue Jul 7 00:51:34 2009 From: bkitterer at me.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:51:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907062220l1f666666nf28af01f6b2fdc67@mail.gmail.com> References: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A52BF22.8030808@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907062220l1f666666nf28af01f6b2fdc67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <84AF6F59-4EF4-4E81-929E-2BBCF43B9A87@me.com> Tires are to small :-) Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Hmmmm.... My 68 Midget with a 1275 and 3.9 dif doesn't come close > to that > speed. It is in peices in the garage at the moment, but when I last > had it > out for a drive it was doing 60 mph at red line on the tach. WTF? > It's been > that way ever since I got it 4 years ago. From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 05:38:08 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:38:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... In-Reply-To: <84AF6F59-4EF4-4E81-929E-2BBCF43B9A87@me.com> References: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A52BF22.8030808@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907062220l1f666666nf28af01f6b2fdc67@mail.gmail.com> <84AF6F59-4EF4-4E81-929E-2BBCF43B9A87@me.com> Message-ID: <402188520907070438vb4e5119tdb744fb29d0859b0@mail.gmail.com> > Tires are too small :-) But the original 10" Mini wheels were such a deal on Craigs List... From pchast at francomm.com Tue Jul 7 09:49:02 2009 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:49:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... In-Reply-To: <84AF6F59-4EF4-4E81-929E-2BBCF43B9A87@me.com> References: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A52BF22.8030808@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907062220l1f666666nf28af01f6b2fdc67@mail.gmail.com> <84AF6F59-4EF4-4E81-929E-2BBCF43B9A87@me.com> Message-ID: OR too large and spedo is wrong. where's those tickets? On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 23:51:34 -0700, Kitterer Bob wrote: > > Tires are to small :-) > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> Hmmmm.... My 68 Midget with a 1275 and 3.9 dif doesn't come close >> to that >> speed. It is in peices in the garage at the moment, but when I last >> had it >> out for a drive it was doing 60 mph at red line on the tach. WTF? >> It's been >> that way ever since I got it 4 years ago. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pchast at francomm.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From fastvee at yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 06:56:54 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 05:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget sell 4 free Message-ID: <214549.21135.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hello Frank, Congratulations to all of the Claricis on the birth of your grandson. I am curious, was the ebay car as good as it looked in the pics? Could you take a few pics of the shell you want gone? John Fogelsville, PA --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Frank wrote: From: Frank Subject: [Spridgets] RWA Midget sell 4 free To: "Spridgets" Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 10:00 PM I am currently working on a 72 Midget, it was just a tub and my buddy just brought over the donor car, another RWA Midget that I have to take all the stuff off of and put it on the freshly painted shell. So he said I can have the tub, I don't want it. It is a serious project. A blue tarp special so it's rusted from the top down. Sills are OK but the fenders, doors, bonnet and what used to be a lip to hold the top all need lots of attention. Did I say lots of attention? I mean this is a metal workers dream come true or a nice candidate for an Arkley kit but the doors still need work. It will have stock wheels and roll, maybe a harness if the one on the good tub works, and some other minor bits and pieces. It will be stripped out in a week or so and I need it out of here. It is rusty but I have restored worse. Free to who ever wants it but you have to come get it in NJ. Spend a day at the beach and bring home a real project. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites You are subscribed as fastvee at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From refisk at chartermi.net Tue Jul 7 07:26:09 2009 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:26:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Detectives Approached my daughter and son in law last week about drug money, a million dollars. . check this out References: <37dc82d40907062155u4cea9813v5de50ac6accf2bfc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <027701c9ff06$7d94a4f0$6401a8c0@refisk> Twenty some years ago I bought an ex-rental house in Fullerton, California that had some interesting "features". Big holes knocked in the drywall had been repaired in several rooms and the back bedroom had evidence of false walls that had been ripped out. After we moved in the neighbors told us that the house had been used by druggies as a distribution point. The Feds had apparently had the house under surveillance for some time before they made their bust and even went so far as to buy the house next door and put a couple of agents in place to monitor my future house. The neighbors said that when the place was busted several million dollars worth of heroin was found and a bunch of people went to jail. Everytime I did any repair or remodelling I kept wondering what I might find, but all I ever turned up was dead cockraoches. The renters had been pigs. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:55 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Detectives Approached my daughter and son in law last week about drug money, a million dollars. . check this out > Interesting story that I thought I would share. . I do not have the > results > yet. From bighealey at charter.net Tue Jul 7 07:56:42 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 06:56:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: <1180980977.976691246931304418.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Ryan, Don't jinx this. What if say taxes disappeared one day. Would you run around hollering "where's the tax? Where's the tax?" Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:48 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? he seems to have fallen off the planet. I can't get in touch with him by email or phone. Ed if your around call or email me. Ryan You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 7 08:55:03 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 09:55:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Detectives Approached my daughter and son in law last week about drug money, a million dollars. . check this out References: <37dc82d40907062155u4cea9813v5de50ac6accf2bfc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1976AFA8AA2749CF8472AE80D28D482E@Larry> Smells pretty fishy to me. If real cops had an idea that there was drug money hidden there, they wouldn't come a week early and tell you all about it. They would come with warrant in hand and tear into it immediately. Why in the world would they tell somebody about hidden money and then say that they will be back some day later to look around -- giving your daughter and son-in-law plenty of time to open the walls themselves? They just don't go around telling the general public where hidden drug money is. Nope, that is so far from SOP as to be completely unbelievable. Another thing, if real detectives did not want the owner there, he could insist all he wants, but he won't be there. This really smells funny. Kirk, if I were you, I would be down at the local PD finding out if they were real cops and, if they weren't, the real cops ought to know about it for your kid's sake. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 11:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Detectives Approached my daughter and son in law last week about drug money, a million dollars. . check this out Interesting story that I thought I would share. . I do not have the results yet. I am waiting on the result of detectives who approached my daughter and son in law last week. They got info on a cold case that up to a million dollars of drug money is inside of the wall that is in their kitchen - in the house that they are renting. I believe that they are going to be there tomorrow to tear into the wall. The money was supposed to have been hidden there 7 years ago. All these years my daughter and son in law might have been eating meals and sitting at that table paying bills while a million dollars cash might have been about two feet away. My son in law and I were scheming this weekend about how we might get to the money via the crawl space above the wall. . but of course we decided that the risk of moving the brief case or the bag that the money is in would also result in movement noted in the area. And of course we would not try anything. . but it was hard not to think about it. I will let you know if the detectives find anything. The guy who owns the house happened to be in town and told the detectives that he would be there when they got into the wall. The detectives did not want him there. . but he insisted. He also told my son in law that if they find anything, "it is his". . and that he would fight them in court. I don't think the guy would stand a chance of claiming drug money, even though he owned the house before the money was supposedly placed there. . .it is an interesting story to say the least! Kirk You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From richb at u.washington.edu Tue Jul 7 09:22:55 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 08:22:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Front End Pad to disc brakes conversion question!!!! References: <4A4F84DC.3000004@cox.net><4622899922932630828@unknownmsgid><030501c9fcd7$22d45a00$687d0e00$@brokaw@cox.net> Message-ID: <06244B813BEB42D3B23ECDAD123B08F0@psych.washington.edu> Martin Make sure you have them installed on the proper side. They should each have a cut out area to clear the tie rod. When we were doing the brakes on my Midget during the NOSHIT we ran into the same problem. I had set up the a parts box for each wheel and had mixed up the dust covers right for left. Swapped them out and all was good. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin" To: "'Spridgets'" Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Front End Pad to disc brakes conversion question!!!! > All, > > Have a technical question, I am changing out the Pad Brakes to Disc Brakes > on the front end on my 59' BE. I got it all just about together, but it > seems that the Tie Rod ends now bind against the disc dust cover - are > there > different tie rods ends on the disc brakes vs. the pad brakes and would it > be ok to cut the dust cover so they do not bind them? > > Martin Cooper > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) > Database version: 6.12750 > http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 09:27:57 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:27:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: References: <1180980977.976691246931304418.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907070827r8632435t5d78cd53f1103d75@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > Ryan, > > Don't jinx this. What if say taxes disappeared one day. Would you run > around hollering "where's the tax? Where's the tax?" > > That should teach me not to take a drink before opening the next email! ;-) Wouldn't be so bad if I'd spit this soda at my monitor at home but I'm at school and they really get testy about that here! (quietly) LMAO (in the school library) From gjbranch at comcast.net Tue Jul 7 09:44:59 2009 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:44:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC Message-ID: <4A536D7B.3020209@comcast.net> Thanks for all the responses. None of the suggestions worked, though. The real solution is dump Outlook and download for free Mozilla's Thunderbird email program. Bill Gates makes crap. From george.brokaw at cox.net Tue Jul 7 10:11:12 2009 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:11:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <4A536D7B.3020209@comcast.net> References: <4A536D7B.3020209@comcast.net> Message-ID: <041201c9ff1d$8c0c7190$a42554b0$@brokaw@cox.net> In the great scheme of things, we all do... ;^) -----Original Message----- Bill Gates makes crap. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 10:41:33 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:41:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <6314184793660281830@unknownmsgid> References: <4A536D7B.3020209@comcast.net> <6314184793660281830@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907070941w5d188474n2908120c50f3a86f@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:11 AM, George Brokaw wrote: > In the great scheme of things, we all do... True. But some are more adept at it than others.... While you're at it, dump your Windoze OS and upgrade to Linux. THEN install either Thunderbird or Eudora Light. OR You could go to a Mac...... -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From frog.aye at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 12:36:48 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:36:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907070941w5d188474n2908120c50f3a86f@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A536D7B.3020209@comcast.net> <6314184793660281830@unknownmsgid> <43840a7e0907070941w5d188474n2908120c50f3a86f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140907071136ua4455a1yaffa6a102a409a4e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > You could go to a Mac...... > -- > And hope like heck that you never have to deal with Apple's "service" system.... Hal From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue Jul 7 12:40:26 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1113914272.236871246992026573.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> That was the last i heard from him as well.B I got half of an order mid june then nothing.B Hee saisd he would send the rest the following week but so far nothing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ball" To: "ryan kubanoff" Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 2:19:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? Ryan Did you hear anything about Ed? B I have been trying to reach him about some part also since about mid June. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? > he seems to have fallen off the planet. I can't get in touch with him by > email or phone. Ed if your around call or email me. > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net B http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 7 13:02:03 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:02:03 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <4333f8140907071136ua4455a1yaffa6a102a409a4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090707190203.V32IB.532030.root@hrndva-web15-z01> hey hey hey now...I'm doing a temp job this week and installing 8 G5's as we speak. Whatever you do though, stay away from Lotus Notes Feels fantastic to be working again, too bad its only for a week or so. Chris Deputized Mac Tech --- Hal Faulkner wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:41 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > > > You could go to a Mac...... > > -- > > > > And hope like heck that you never have to deal with Apple's "service" > system.... > > Hal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From richb at u.washington.edu Tue Jul 7 13:41:29 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:41:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? Message-ID: <96CBD2725AB444B7899030EAFC1BFBEF@psych.washington.edu> I didn't have any parts ordered, but I wanted to place an order. I hope nothing BAD has happened. I thought the list has been a little to quite lately. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net To: Richard Ball Cc: spridgets Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? That was the last i heard from him as well. I got half of an order mid june then nothing. Hee saisd he would send the rest the following week but so far nothing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ball" To: "ryan kubanoff" Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 2:19:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? Ryan Did you hear anything about Ed? I have been trying to reach him about some part also since about mid June. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? > he seems to have fallen off the planet. I can't get in touch with him by > email or phone. Ed if your around call or email me. > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From richb at u.washington.edu Tue Jul 7 13:43:27 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:43:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Front End Pad to disc brakes conversion question!!!! Message-ID: <906233C121304D48B5D23F8301ED6C86@psych.washington.edu> Martin Make sure you have them installed on the proper side. They should each have a cut out area to clear the tie rod. When we were doing the brakes on my Midget during the NOSHIT we ran into the same problem. I had set up the a parts box for each wheel and had mixed up the dust covers right for left. Swapped them out and all was good. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Martin" > To: "'Spridgets'" > Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 1:36 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Front End Pad to disc brakes conversion question!!!! > > >> All, >> >> Have a technical question, I am changing out the Pad Brakes to Disc >> Brakes >> on the front end on my 59' BE. I got it all just about together, but it >> seems that the Tie Rod ends now bind against the disc dust cover - are >> there >> different tie rods ends on the disc brakes vs. the pad brakes and would >> it >> be ok to cut the dust cover so they do not bind them? >> >> Martin Cooper >> >> >> >> >> >> E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) >> Database version: 6.12750 >> http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 13:55:10 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:55:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: <96CBD2725AB444B7899030EAFC1BFBEF@psych.washington.edu> References: <96CBD2725AB444B7899030EAFC1BFBEF@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <4440.21765.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Are we talking about Ed from Import Parts NW? He'll be back on Wednesday according to his VM. I also tried to order parts. ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 12:41:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? I didn't have any parts ordered, but I wanted to place an order. I hope nothing BAD has happened. I thought the list has been a little to quite lately. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net To: Richard Ball Cc: spridgets Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? That was the last i heard from him as well. I got half of an order mid june then nothing. Hee saisd he would send the rest the following week but so far nothing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ball" To: "ryan kubanoff" Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 2:19:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? Ryan Did you hear anything about Ed? I have been trying to reach him about some part also since about mid June. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? > he seems to have fallen off the planet. I can't get in touch with him by > email or phone. Ed if your around call or email me. > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kentmclean at comcast.net Tue Jul 7 13:58:15 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 15:58:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A53A8D7.8070105@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: > While you're at it, dump your Windoze OS and upgrade to Linux. THEN install > either Thunderbird or Eudora Light. There are several distributions that let you run a Live-CD. Put the CD into your PC, start the PC, and the PC will boot into Linux. You can play around with it before you decide it's the way to go. It includes (free) OpenOffice, which lets you open/create MS Word, Excel, and PowerPoint compatible documents. I've been running Ubuntu's version for a few years now. It keeps getting better with every release (which can't be said of Windows). Try it. You might like it. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From richb at u.washington.edu Tue Jul 7 13:59:18 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:59:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? References: <96CBD2725AB444B7899030EAFC1BFBEF@psych.washington.edu> <4440.21765.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No we are talking about Ed from Just Brits. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Perez To: Richard Ball ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? Are we talking about Ed from Import Parts NW? He'll be back on Wednesday according to his VM. I also tried to order parts. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: Richard Ball To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 12:41:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? I didn't have any parts ordered, but I wanted to place an order. I hope nothing BAD has happened. I thought the list has been a little to quite lately. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net To: Richard Ball Cc: spridgets Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? That was the last i heard from him as well. I got half of an order mid june then nothing. Hee saisd he would send the rest the following week but so far nothing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Ball" To: "ryan kubanoff" Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 2:19:44 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? Ryan Did you hear anything about Ed? I have been trying to reach him about some part also since about mid June. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? > he seems to have fallen off the planet. I can't get in touch with him by > email or phone. Ed if your around call or email me. > Ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 14:03:12 2009 From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:03:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: References: <96CBD2725AB444B7899030EAFC1BFBEF@psych.washington.edu> <4440.21765.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm pretty sure he is in L.A. for the Michael Jackson memorial. Anon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > No we are talking about Ed from Just Brits. > > Rich > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Edward Perez > To: Richard Ball ; spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? > > > Are we talking about Ed from Import Parts NW? He'll be back on Wednesday > according to his VM. I also tried to order parts. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 14:42:17 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:42:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <4A53A8D7.8070105@comcast.net> References: <4A53A8D7.8070105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907071342x3d074296lbeaaca068ba87c49@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Kent McLean wrote: > > I've been running Ubuntu's version for a few years now. It keeps getting > better > with every release (which can't be said of Windows). > > To their credit though Windows doesn't have a new release every few months *You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have The facts of life, the facts of life.* From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 7 14:48:29 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:48:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <4333f8140907071136ua4455a1yaffa6a102a409a4e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > to deal with Apple's "service" > system.... I've always gotten great service. The Apple store fixes most problems for free while I wait. Granted, I've only needed their help twice in over twenty years, but I was treated well both times. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 7 14:49:52 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:49:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Ed from Import Parts NW? We're talking about THEE Ed, not AN Ed. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue Jul 7 14:58:30 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1336188693.298871247000310748.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> oh please let that be a joke...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Gowins" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 4:03:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? I'm pretty sure he is in L.A. for the Michael Jackson memorial. Anon On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > No we are talking about Ed from Just Brits. > > Rich > B ----- Original Message ----- > B From: Edward Perez > B To: Richard Ball ; spridgets at autox.team.net > B Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 12:55 PM > B Subject: Re: [Spridgets] has anyone heard from ED lately? > > > B Are we talking about Ed from Import Parts NW? B He'll be back on Wednesday > according to his VM. B I also tried to order parts. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Tue Jul 7 15:06:13 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0907071342x3d074296lbeaaca068ba87c49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1393220915.302611247000773328.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> jeff, THANKS JERK!!! i am stuck at work till 8pm with no chance to get that stupid jingle out of my HEAD!!!!! Horrible jingles like that aren't something to be thrown out thereB somebody can get hurt!! :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Foster" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 4:42:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Kent McLean wrote: > > I've been running Ubuntu's version for a few years now. It keeps getting > better > with every release (which can't be said of Windows). > > To their credit though Windows doesn't have a new release every few months *You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have The facts of life, the facts of life.* From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 15:37:02 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:37:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <1393220915.302611247000773328.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <8de85a9c0907071342x3d074296lbeaaca068ba87c49@mail.gmail.com> <1393220915.302611247000773328.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Here, will this help??? LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmsOIjzQ1V8 Another Texas band!!!! On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:06 PM, wrote: > jeff, > > THANKS JERK!!! > > i am stuck at work till 8pm with no chance to get that stupid jingle out of > my > HEAD!!!!! > > Horrible jingles like that aren't something to be thrown out thereB > somebody > can get hurt!! > > > > :-) > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Foster" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 4:42:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Kent McLean > wrote: > > > > I've been running Ubuntu's version for a few years now. It keeps getting > > better > > with every release (which can't be said of Windows). > > > > To their credit though Windows doesn't have a new release every few > months > > *You take the good, you take the bad, > you take them both and there you have > The facts of life, the facts of life.* > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 7 15:54:15 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:54:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Holley Carb Problem In-Reply-To: <44FEB84732D343ACB57D47F434F1A7C9@Dave> References: <4A526B74.3000008@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907061733n3bdc22c6vf8631160e2a14c32@mail.gmail.com> <44FEB84732D343ACB57D47F434F1A7C9@Dave> Message-ID: Welcome Dave, Didn't know that Holley made a 45 DCOE,you sure it's not a Weber?? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > Hey all.. > > I am new Spridget member with a new (to me) 1959 Bugeye with a problem. > > The problem is a Holley 45 DCOE 13 carb I cannot keep adjusted it has > continually ran rich (black deposit on exhaust tail pipe and also on spark > plugs). The engine is a 1275cc. Let me know if you need additional info. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > Also Grandpa... > > Dave A. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC thats right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 16:17:01 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:17:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook Express problems: NO LBC In-Reply-To: <4A53A8D7.8070105@comcast.net> References: <4A53A8D7.8070105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907071517t4326d002s5e2f8a88e4d5c356@mail.gmail.com> Wife won't try Linux... Windoze addict.. So the desktop is dual boot with Fedora and Windows XP Pro for her. I have two hard drives for the laptop. One with Fedora and the other with Windoze XP Pro. Its an amazing experience to see the difference in speed and function you get with directly addressed memory! I have OpenOffice on all machines. The laptop and desktop are, I'd guess, about 3 times faster in the Linux boot and they have never crashed or been nailed with viruses. Can't say as much for the Windoze and Windoze apps. I do almost all of my email through Google's Gmail - otherwise I have Thunderbird in all configurations and use Firefox exclusively as a browser. Way more better.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Kent McLean wrote: > Jim Johnson wrote: > >> While you're at it, dump your Windoze OS and upgrade to Linux. THEN >> install >> either Thunderbird or Eudora Light. >> > > There are several distributions that let you run a Live-CD. Put the CD into > your PC, start the PC, and the PC will boot into Linux. You can play around > with it before you decide it's the way to go. It includes (free) > OpenOffice, > which lets you open/create MS Word, Excel, and PowerPoint compatible > documents. > > I've been running Ubuntu's version for a few years now. It keeps getting > better > with every release (which can't be said of Windows). > > Try it. You might like it. > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 7 16:59:30 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:59:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... In-Reply-To: References: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A52BF22.8030808@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907062220l1f666666nf28af01f6b2fdc67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907071559g2bc6014fi942887dd62a91c30@mail.gmail.com> You mean it's not an automatic!!??? I wondered what that other pedal was for! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Bill Masquelier wrote: > Jim- > Put it in 4th!! From cmlove at knology.net Tue Jul 7 17:04:44 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:04:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! Message-ID: <000001c9ff57$51743e20$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> OK, I went to put the doors back on the car to paint this weekend and now I am soaking wet with sweat because I can't find the Blankety Blank Door Hinge bolts to bolt the doors to the car!!!! Can someone tell me the size and thread count, etc. and whether I can find these at the hardware store? Thanks, In a panic!!! Charles M. "Monty" Love Dynetics, Inc. 256-461-2780 256-337-5581 (Cell) 256-882-1543 (Home) ET Test The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there. From cmlove at knology.net Tue Jul 7 17:14:19 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:14:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! Message-ID: <000001c9ff58$a81d7ec0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> OK, I went to put the doors back on the car to paint this weekend and now I am soaking wet with sweat because I can't find the Blankety Blank Door Hinge bolts to bolt the doors to the car!!!! Can someone tell me the size and thread count, etc. and whether I can find these at the hardware store? Thanks, In a panic!!! Charles M. "Monty" Love Dynetics, Inc. 256-461-2780 256-337-5581 (Cell) 256-882-1543 (Home) ET Test The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there. From cmlove at knology.net Tue Jul 7 17:22:07 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:22:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HELP! Message-ID: <000101c9ff59$bf1caeb0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Never mind, I found the size. 1/4 X 28 for the door for the midget..1973 Charles M. "Monty" Love Dynetics, Inc. 256-461-2780 256-337-5581 (Cell) 256-882-1543 (Home) ET Test The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there. From duncan at pondhop.com Tue Jul 7 17:29:33 2009 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:29:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! In-Reply-To: <000001c9ff58$a81d7ec0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> References: <000001c9ff58$a81d7ec0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: Hinge plates to car are 1/4 28 Pozidrive screws about 3/4" long if I remember Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Monty Love Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:14 PM To: spritenut at comcast.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Help! OK, I went to put the doors back on the car to paint this weekend and now I am soaking wet with sweat because I can't find the Blankety Blank Door Hinge bolts to bolt the doors to the car!!!! Can someone tell me the size and thread count, etc. and whether I can find these at the hardware store? Thanks, In a panic!!! Charles M. "Monty" Love Dynetics, Inc. 256-461-2780 256-337-5581 (Cell) 256-882-1543 (Home) ET Test The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there. You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.386 / Virus Database: 270.13.7/2222 - Release Date: 07/07/09 17:54:00 From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 17:39:36 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:39:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Detectives Approached my daughter and son in law last week about drug money, a million dollars. . check this out Message-ID: <594775.67563.qm@web51407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Tear the walls apart, recover money, burn the house down! J/K, YMMV! --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: From: Kirk Hargreaves Subject: [Spridgets] Detectives Approached my daughter and son in law last week about drug money, a million dollars. . check this out To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 12:55 AM Interesting story that I thought I would share. . I do not have the results yet. I am waiting on the result of detectives who approached my daughter and son in law last week. They got info on a cold case that up to a million dollars of drug money is inside of the wall that is in their kitchen - in the house that they are renting. I believe that they are going to be there tomorrow to tear into the wall. The money was supposed to have been hidden there 7 years ago. All these years my daughter and son in law might have been eating meals and sitting at that table paying bills while a million dollars cash might have been about two feet away. My son in law and I were scheming this weekend about how we might get to the money via the crawl space above the wall. . but of course we decided that the risk of moving the brief case or the bag that the money is in would also result in movement noted in the area. And of course we would not try anything. . but it was hard not to think about it. I will let you know if the detectives find anything. The guy who owns the house happened to be in town and told the detectives that he would be there when they got into the wall. The detectives did not want him there. . but he insisted. He also told my son in law that if they find anything, "it is his". . and that he would fight them in court. I don't think the guy would stand a chance of claiming drug money, even though he owned the house before the money was supposedly placed there. . .it is an interesting story to say the least! Kirk You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 7 18:04:32 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 20:04:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907062220l1f666666nf28af01f6b2fdc67@mail.gmail.com> References: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A52BF22.8030808@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907062220l1f666666nf28af01f6b2fdc67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jim, You changed out the rear gear,but did you change the speedo drive gear to correspond to thenew gearing?????I'd try and check the tach with a dwell tach to verify yoursreads correctly at higher rpms if it wants to rev past the redline.Or maybe you didn't put a 3.9 in there, but a 4.9 or 5.11?? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:20:14 -0500 > From: bmwwxman at gmail.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] engine questions... > > Hmmmm.... My 68 Midget with a 1275 and 3.9 dif doesn't come close to that > speed. It is in peices in the garage at the moment, but when I last had it > out for a drive it was doing 60 mph at red line on the tach. WTF? It's been > that way ever since I got it 4 years ago. > > Like Ryan I figure on "refreshing" (love that word!) the engine though it is > only supposed to have about 6.000 miles on it per the PO. The main problem > it has is serious oil leakage. It runs very well but apparently something is > screwy per the tach/speedo numbers you guys are talking about. WTF would > cause this? Is the tach reading too high? It idles perfectly at around > 800-900 rpm indicated when warm. I know the speedo is correct - I had > Carolyn follow me at several different speeds and it is very close to what > her new PU showed. Also, it is very free reving and wants to go past red > line. I changed out the 4.22 dif for the 3.9 dif last spring - no > difference. Downhill with a tail wind I can get 65 mph at red line but > that's it. > > All ideas welcome.... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Frank wrote: > >> ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: >> >>> i am driving a stock 1275 '74. on the highway i am concerned to push past >>> 4k rpm's for any length of time. >>> >> Ryan >> >> The 1275 sweet spot is 4200 rpms, and it will run at that speed all day >> long. >> 4500 is probably 80 mph with a 3.9 which is what you have. It is a bit fast >> for all day driving but Ok for short bursts. >> The machinist I use knows 1275s and for a couple of 300 bucks, he will do >> everything it needs if you supply the parts. >> $100 for the head work, you supply the guides, $30 a hole to bore it if it >> needs it and he will polish the crank at the shop. >> If the crank needs to be cut, he sends it out. He also installs the pistons >> on the rods which is another machine shop job unless you have the oven to >> heat the rods to remove and replace the pistons. >> I also have a couple of spare heads if you want me to drop one off to him >> for a head job. Then you can just swap them out. >> >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> My own Fleet of Sprites >> >> _______________________________________________ >> _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_BR_life_in_synch_062009 From healeyrick at yahoo.com Tue Jul 7 18:16:16 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 17:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] interesting old article. Message-ID: <104627.91629.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I was driving my bugeye to high school when this took place. Still remember how cool it was to read the story. --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Andy Webster wrote: From: Andy Webster Subject: [Spridgets] interesting old article. To: spridgets at autox.team.net, "spridgets" Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 9:23 PM Probably , most of you are familiar with this story..but just in case... escaping East Berlin in a Sprite. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,830344,00.html?iid=chix-sphe re Andy _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 7 19:42:24 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 21:42:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Help! In-Reply-To: <000001c9ff57$51743e20$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> References: <000001c9ff57$51743e20$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <4A53F980.9040800@comcast.net> Monty Love wrote: > OK, I went to put the doors back on the car to paint this weekend and now I > am soaking wet with sweat because I can't find the Blankety Blank Door Hinge > bolts to bolt the doors to the car!!!! > > Can someone tell me the size and thread count, etc. and whether I can find > these at the hardware store? > > 1/4 x 28 for the hinge to door post 1/4 x 28 on the hinges to doors on all side curtain cars 5/16 x 24 on the hinge to doors on all roll up window cars. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 7 21:13:50 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:13:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... In-Reply-To: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1435924887.978621246931672550.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: hey Ryan, My 1098 Bugeye (that you rode in) is turning about 4300 at 60 with a 4.22 and 185/60's according to a GPS. My Speedo reads 5-10 mph high. Thinking about installing a 3.9. I'm smokin too, though I think mine is rings, as it's comin out the breathers and exhaust. Haven't checked compression, but pulls hard. maybe giudes, can't remember if there are valve seals installed, I'll have to check. Leaks alot too. ;-) Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 01:54:32 +0000 > From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] engine questions... > > i am driving a stock 1275 '74. on the highway i am concerned to push past 4k rpm's for any length of time. I also have a minor oil burn that i attribute to valve guides and recessed core plugs in the head. At some point i will "refresh" the engine not that i know what the hell that actually means but it sounds good. what if anything can be done to improve highway speeds without going to a 3+k 5 speed. i think I am doing about 70 at 4k rpm's i just want to do 80mph for highway driving especially considering MG2009 in toronto and the midget 50th in wisconsin. > thanks > ryan > '74 midget > _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Jul 8 05:49:16 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:49:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting Message-ID: <7lku3e$6e6k3r@email.mtu.edu> There's a nice pic of a South Carolina Sprite on the "Tail of the Dragon" in today's Killboy's Blogspot. About 1/4 of the way down. http://killboy.blogspot.com/ Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 07:29:32 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:29:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$6e6k3r@email.mtu.edu> References: <7lku3e$6e6k3r@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <8c1781040907080629w648d0641pe6628ad18c93f563@mail.gmail.com> I just saw that, there was another one last week (or maybe the week before). On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Tim Collins wrote: > There's a nice pic of a South Carolina Sprite on the "Tail of the Dragon" in > today's Killboy's Blogspot. About 1/4 of the way down. > http://killboy.blogspot.com/ > > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as trevor.jessie at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 07:37:56 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:37:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting In-Reply-To: <7lku3e$6e6k3r@email.mtu.edu> References: <7lku3e$6e6k3r@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907080637l25445e10v7662f6af76d2ec59@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Tim Collins wrote: > There's a nice pic of a South Carolina Sprite on the "Tail of the Dragon" in > today's Killboy's Blogspot. About 1/4 of the way down. > http://killboy.blogspot.com/ With a hitch installed on it. What are you guys pulling with your Spridgets? Direct link to the Sprite picture: http://tinyurl.com/l7rgl5 From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 07:50:05 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:50:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0907080637l25445e10v7662f6af76d2ec59@mail.gmail.com> References: <7lku3e$6e6k3r@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907080637l25445e10v7662f6af76d2ec59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c1781040907080650k7a141daau911e52a1622acf3b@mail.gmail.com> I'm going to put a hitch on mine so I can pull a luggage trailer. > > > With a hitch installed on it. What are you guys pulling with your > Spridgets? > > Direct link to the Sprite picture: > http://tinyurl.com/l7rgl5 From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Jul 8 10:13:40 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:13:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting now trailer In-Reply-To: <8c1781040907080650k7a141daau911e52a1622acf3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7lku3e$6e6k3r@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907080637l25445e10v7662f6af76d2ec59@mail.gmail.com> <8c1781040907080650k7a141daau911e52a1622acf3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: In 1960 the "Tag-A-Long" trailer was made for small cars, It did not use a one point hitch but rather two arms that attached to the back of the car. Then it had a single wheel towards the back that swiveled 360 degrees.. The wheel was a front landing gear from a light aircraft like a Piper Cub, or at least that is what it looked like. It was just slightly higher than the rear deck on the Sprite. I have thought about making one using a big car top carrier as the body but not sure what to use for the wheel and support. Just a curious item. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:50 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > I'm going to put a hitch on mine so I can pull a luggage trailer. > > >> >> >> With a hitch installed on it. What are you guys pulling with your >> Spridgets? >> >> Direct link to the Sprite picture: >> http:// > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 10:24:44 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:24:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting now trailer In-Reply-To: References: <7lku3e$6e6k3r@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907080637l25445e10v7662f6af76d2ec59@mail.gmail.com> <8c1781040907080650k7a141daau911e52a1622acf3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907080924y54ce3f69k5c499449f5dc0f35@mail.gmail.com> > In 1960 the "Tag-A-Long" trailer was made for small cars, It did not use a > one point hitch but rather two arms that attached to the back of the car. > Then it had a single wheel towards the back that swiveled 360 degrees.. > The wheel was a front landing gear from a light aircraft like a Piper Cub, > or at least that is what it looked like. It was just slightly higher than > the rear deck on the Sprite. I have thought about making one using a big > car top carrier as the body but not sure what to use for the wheel and > support. Just a curious item. Bob, I have used one of those Tag-A-Long trailers. They can be quite fun. They certainly turn the art of backing a trailer into a trivial exercise, sine they do not pivot in relation to the car. Even I can back one of those babies up. The problem is that the pivoting wheel on these has to fit completely underneath the body of the trailer so that even with an 8" wheel the trailer sits fairly high. The 8" tires are not rated for 55mph, either, although they seem to survive fairly well at highway speed. Ours eventually wore out, but it had a lot of miles on it before it did. I now have a fiberglass-bodied modern equivalent of it which attaches to dual trailer balls which, in turn, are mounted on a crosspiece from a Type-1 receiver drawbar. Unfortunately, if you were to attach it to a Spridget, the nose-down attitude assumed by the trailer would not be good. Even behind a PT Cruiser it is less than ideal, although I have used it that way. Heck, anyone want to buy a cheap trailer? David L From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jul 8 10:36:09 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting now trailer Message-ID: <373381.42391.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> For anyone interested in a small camping/pop-up trailer, look for the ones designed to be pulled behind motorcycles. Some weigh as little as 275 lbs Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Kitterer Bob wrote: From: Kitterer Bob Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting now trailer To: "Spridgets" Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 12:13 PM In 1960 the "Tag-A-Long" trailer was made for small cars, From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 8 11:05:03 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:05:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting now trailer In-Reply-To: <373381.42391.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <373381.42391.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402188520907081005r24d0d77ej40fcfd0510d17d82@mail.gmail.com> > For anyone interested in a small camping/pop-up trailer, look for the ones designed to be pulled behind motorcycles. Some weigh as little as 275 lbs I can agree with that. Trish has an Aspen Classic from TrailMaster (http://www.trailmasterinc.com/aspclassic/aspclassic.html) that she tows with her Miata... hardly even know it is there. Lots of stowage capacity and it folds out to a king-size bed. They also have an Aspen Sentry which is even smaller (queen-size bed and 20 cubic feet of stowage) and would be great with a Spridget. We love ours. David L From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 8 11:48:59 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:48:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Sprite sighting now trailer Message-ID: <0305CB0F7A894A0C85F6D55F47E916AE@psych.washington.edu> Here is a link to a site for the single wheel PAV trailers. Mostly about the scooter models, but scroll down a bit and there are a few shots of a car trailers as well. http://www.singlewheel.com/Scoots/PAVFR.htm Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kitterer Bob" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:13 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting now trailer > > >> In 1960 the "Tag-A-Long" trailer was made for small cars, It did not >> use a one point hitch but rather two arms that attached to the back of >> the car. Then it had a single wheel towards the back that swiveled 360 >> degrees.. The wheel was a front landing gear from a light aircraft like >> a Piper Cub, or at least that is what it looked like. It was just >> slightly higher than the rear deck on the Sprite. I have thought about >> making one using a big car top carrier as the body but not sure what to >> use for the wheel and support. Just a curious item. >> >> Bob Kitterer >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >> 2000 Miata Special Edition >> >> On Jul 8, 2009, at 6:50 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: >> >>> I'm going to put a hitch on mine so I can pull a luggage trailer. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> With a hitch installed on it. What are you guys pulling with your >>>> Spridgets? >>>> >>>> Direct link to the Sprite picture: >>>> http:// >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 8 12:46:30 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:46:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] new 8 track Message-ID: http://www.chez106.com/more.jsp?content=20090707_063134_8900 From pilotrob at msn.com Wed Jul 8 13:56:22 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:56:22 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: banditblue sent you a video: "steam traction engines" Message-ID: Do British Steam Traction Engines leak steam? CB -----Original Message----- From: YouTube Service Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 9:17 AM To: pilotrob at msn.com Subject: banditblue sent you a video: "steam traction engines" banditblue has shared a video with you on YouTube: steam traction engines http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBF2nbzbVoY&feature=email on the way to the pub from hollowell steam fair From Charles.M.Love2 at boeing.com Wed Jul 8 14:22:35 2009 From: Charles.M.Love2 at boeing.com (EXT-Love, Charles M) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:22:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New Blog with Photos Message-ID: <006201ca0009$d9ac3dd0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> I have created a new BLOG for me and my son Patrick to store pictures of our MG Midget restoration effort. We will have lots of pics. If you are interested, it is located at http://montylove.blogspot.com. We hope you like the photos. We are getting excited about finishing the paint and starting the rebuild effort. Charles M. "Monty" Love 1973 in pieces. Huntsville, Alabama From billmasq at hotmail.com Wed Jul 8 16:19:55 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:19:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting In-Reply-To: <8c1781040907080650k7a141daau911e52a1622acf3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <7lku3e$6e6k3r@email.mtu.edu> <8de85a9c0907080637l25445e10v7662f6af76d2ec59@mail.gmail.com> <8c1781040907080650k7a141daau911e52a1622acf3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: NOTHING bigger than an MGB on a car trailer! BTDT BillM > Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:50:05 -0400 > From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sprite sighting > > I'm going to put a hitch on mine so I can pull a luggage trailer. > > > > > > > > With a hitch installed on it. What are you guys pulling with your > > Spridgets? > > > > Direct link to the Sprite picture: > > http://tinyurl.com/l7rgl5 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 From gjbranch at comcast.net Wed Jul 8 16:31:27 2009 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:31:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: banditblue sent you a video: "steam traction engines" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A551E3F.1000503@comcast.net> From pilotrob at msn.com Wed Jul 8 19:24:40 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:24:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: banditblue sent you a video: "steam traction engines" Message-ID: LOL, Geoff.... too bad, soo sad for "Carbon Credit Al"! :) CB -----Original Message----- From: Geoff Branch Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 6:31 PM To: Robert E. Shlafer Cc: bugeye at yahoogroups.com, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, spridgets at autoxteam.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: banditblue sent you a video: "steam traction engines" From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 9 07:55:23 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 09:55:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ABCD Message-ID: All British Car Day in Ottawa ON Canada: http://www.britishcarday.ca/index.html From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Jul 9 11:20:27 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pushrods Message-ID: <200907091720.n69HKRS7027552@biglossa.ucdavis.edu> Has anyone got a set of 1275 pushrods they can spare? Let me know and I'll gladly pay at least shipping. It seems that with the current economy, animal DNA typing has flatlined and I'm now retired a year earlier than I had planned. More time to play with the cars I guess. Plan a few backpack trips and repaint the wife's Traveler. Best, Glen Byrns From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Jul 9 20:11:16 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:11:16 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. Message-ID: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Listerati- Some curiosities from the '58 regarding fuel delivery. At MG2009, I tried to run the rallye, but had trouble getting fuel delivered to the carbs going up Loveland Pass. So I punted, installed an electric on the fender well. It seemed to do the trick until I went to drive home. Again on Loveland Pass (~ the 12000 foot level) it crapped out again. When I let it sit and cool down, it comes back to life, but only if its headed downhill (even with the electric) Symptoms include running a bit warm ~2000F, loss of power (no Kidding) lack of fuel at the carbs, if I hold back on the throttle,it will pulse and then pick up, pulse and pick up as the fuel alternately fills the bowls and empties (I'm assuming). In looking at it after I got home, I saw that I'd dented the tank one of the times that I'd whipped it around to try to finish the rallye. Could I have shaken some rust loose and plugged up the strainer in the tank, and can I clean it when I pull the tank? I'm considering pulling the tank and cleaning it with a piece of chain (to abrade the contaminants) and then use Metal Ready, moving the electric to the rear just upstream of the tank, and either rerouting the fuel line to keep it from running around the front and bottom of the engine or leaving the mechanical in place for the electric to push to. Anyone tried using an electric as a pusher pump? I can't find a kit for the mechanical either (haven't looked too hard yet). Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Click here for great quotes from top international movers! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxXlVdbvTnd4lIV72GjCsovnZ Jv2mrTqQFWS4pGqe5iEgsIVnpf2qE/ From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 04:53:47 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:53:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. In-Reply-To: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> References: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: Some curiosities from the '58 regarding fuel delivery. Symptoms include running a bit warm ~2000F, loss of power (no Kidding) Since RD hasn't jumped in here with a humorous comment yet, I will... Most internal combustion engines shouldn't be run at 2000 degrees F as they WILL loose power! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 10 05:53:06 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:53:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] any work on the 'money in the wall' prank? Message-ID: Prank leads Fla. couple to trash hotel room Thursday, July 9, 2009 ORLANDO, Fla. - Authorities say a prankster persuaded a married couple to smash their Florida hotel window after falsely telling them the room had a gas leak. Police say a person claiming to be a front-desk clerk at an Orlando hotel convinced the couple to break a wall mirror and use a lamp to punch a hole through the wall. The couple also threw a mattress out the window, but a hotel manager came to the room before they could jump. The manager told the couple there was no gas leak. The manager also said employees had received a memo from the hotel's corporate office warning that dangerous pranks were being pulled at hotels in other states. The prank cost about $5,000 in damages. Police say the couple was not arrested Monday because they thought it was an emergency. The hotel has not asked them to pay. From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 06:18:29 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pushrods Message-ID: <55851.67333.qm@web34402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi Glen, If you still need pushrods I will look through my engine parts this weekend. Send me your address and I can ship them on Monday. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Glen Byrns wrote: From: Glen Byrns Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 pushrods To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 1:20 PM Has anyone got a set of 1275 pushrods they can spare? Let me know and I'll gladly pay at least shipping. It seems that with the current economy, animal DNA typing has flatlined and I'm now retired a year earlier than I had planned. More time to play with the cars I guess. Plan a few backpack trips and repaint the wife's Traveler. Best, Glen Byrns You are subscribed as fastvee at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Jul 10 10:44:38 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:44:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil in gas Message-ID: It turns out that my wife does not understand which of our engines needs oil in the gas (she really doesn't understand 2- vs. 4-cycle), and she thought I should put oil in my Spridget and lawnmower gas. ("They are small, aren't they?") Suppose this "happened." Could the engine be cleaned out without dismantling it? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 10 11:10:31 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:10:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil in gas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you are using modern synthetic 2 stoke oil it won't matter.. I've done it often enough, even ran 2 stoke racing fuel in the '04 Suburban when I ran out of civilization and gas in Wyoming at 2 am one time.. Lester On Jul 10, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > It turns out that my wife does not understand which of our engines > needs oil in the gas (she really doesn't understand 2- vs. 4-cycle), > and she thought I should put oil in my Spridget and lawnmower gas. > ("They are small, aren't they?") > > Suppose this "happened." Could the engine be cleaned out without > dismantling it? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Sprite kit > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 11:37:36 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Oil in gas Message-ID: <130764.62694.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You may help to kill off the local mosquito population, but it should burn without any serious negative effects. ...Unless maybe the mixture was more oil than gas, which may not burn at all. Still, all you'd have to do is drain it from the tank and start running good stuff thru it. - David --- On Fri, 7/10/09, Michael Rowe wrote: From: Michael Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] Oil in gas To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 11:44 AM It turns out that my wife does not understand which of our engines needs oil in the gas (she really doesn't understand 2- vs. 4-cycle), and she thought I should put oil in my Spridget and lawnmower gas. ("They are small, aren't they?") Suppose this "happened." Could the engine be cleaned out without dismantling it? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Jul 10 11:56:58 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:56:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. In-Reply-To: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> References: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8FFB70A7-68DB-44A0-9DF1-F75EFA7F8DD6@mac.com> Mark, It sounds like vapor lock. You would probably be better off mounting the electric pump close to the gas tank, by passing the mechanical if you have not already done so an be sure the fuel line is as far away from the exhaust manifold as reasonable. This is assuming that the car is other wise in tuned. two cents Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 9, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: > Listerati- > Some curiosities from the '58 regarding fuel delivery. At > MG2009, I > tried to run the rallye, but had trouble getting fuel delivered to > the carbs > going up Loveland Pass. So I punted, installed an electric on the > fender well. > It seemed to do the trick until I went to drive home. Again on > Loveland Pass > (~ the 12000 foot level) it crapped out again. When I let it sit > and cool > down, it comes back to life, but only if its headed downhill (even > with the > electric) > Symptoms include running a bit warm ~2000F, loss of power (no > Kidding) lack of > fuel at the carbs, if I hold back on the throttle,it will pulse and > then pick > up, pulse and pick up as the fuel alternately fills the bowls and > empties (I'm > assuming). > In looking at it after I got home, I saw that I'd dented the tank > one of the > times that I'd whipped it around to try to finish the rallye. Could > I have > shaken some rust loose and plugged up the strainer in the tank, and > can I > clean it when I pull the tank? > I'm considering pulling the tank and cleaning it with a piece of > chain (to > abrade the contaminants) and then use Metal Ready, moving the > electric to the > rear just upstream of the tank, and either rerouting the fuel line > to keep it > from running around the front and bottom of the engine or leaving the > mechanical in place for the electric to push to. > Anyone tried using an electric as a pusher pump? I can't find a kit > for the > mechanical either (haven't looked too hard yet). From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 12:00:24 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. Message-ID: <575658.67953.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Mark Haynes wrote: Anyone tried using an electric as a pusher pump? The Mr. Gasket electric pump I use came with instructions that said to ONLY use it as a "pusher" pump. They said it would not function as a pull-through pump. Don't know which pump you rigged up, but this may be part of your problem. I apologize in advance for suggesting the following, as I'm sure this is not going to be your issue. Actually I'm just adding it here because it was good for a laugh when I heard it. A friend told me recently about one of his Midget customers who came in a while back. The guy was complaining that the car ran progressively poorer then stopped once it warmed up. After cooling down, it would start again and repeat the process. The cause? The guy had a metal in-line fuel filter mounted to a bracket on the exhaust manifold stud. Hmmm... Dude was lucky all that happened was vapor lock. - David From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Fri Jul 10 12:44:51 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:44:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tenax posts anyone?? Message-ID: <0C4F981D-A928-4693-861E-1180BF130039@comcast.net> While doing a trial fit of my new top, well it's warmish here now at 100 F, I realize that I need two Tenax posts for the windshield fasteners as I have Lift the dot ones. Anyone got two to spare ? Thanks Leo for the info! Lester From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 10 12:57:03 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:57:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. In-Reply-To: References: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Sorry! I'll try not to let you down again! I'm on vacation. :) -----Original Message----- From: CosmicMag1380 Sent: July 10, 2009 6:54 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: Some curiosities from the '58 regarding fuel delivery. Symptoms include running a bit warm ~2000F, loss of power (no Kidding) Since RD hasn't jumped in here with a humorous comment yet, I will... Most internal combustion engines shouldn't be run at 2000 degrees F as they WILL loose power! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 10 13:05:30 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:05:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil in gas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1151B92FF12D4CD6932514027ED1DF36@spider> And running diesel in a gasoline engine-d car if you are out on a logging site and need to get into town. ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:11 AM To: Michael Rowe Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil in gas If you are using modern synthetic 2 stoke oil it won't matter.. I've done it often enough, even ran 2 stoke racing fuel in the '04 Suburban when I ran out of civilization and gas in Wyoming at 2 am one time.. Lester On Jul 10, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > It turns out that my wife does not understand which of our engines > needs oil in the gas (she really doesn't understand 2- vs. 4-cycle), > and she thought I should put oil in my Spridget and lawnmower gas. > ("They are small, aren't they?") > > Suppose this "happened." Could the engine be cleaned out without > dismantling it? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Sprite kit > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as corvallis at peoplepc.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 13:29:15 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:29:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. In-Reply-To: References: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907101229h49133ef3jbcede567a1128a8a@mail.gmail.com> Ah, that explains it! Well then, can you tell us ... did you happen to see ED while you was at MJ's memorial service? On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > Sorry! I'll try not to let you down again! I'm on vacation. :) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CosmicMag1380 > Sent: July 10, 2009 6:54 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: > > Some curiosities from the '58 regarding fuel delivery. Symptoms include > running a bit warm ~2000F, loss of power (no Kidding) > > > Since RD hasn't jumped in here with a humorous comment yet, I will... Most > internal combustion engines shouldn't be run at 2000 degrees F as they WILL > loose power! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 10 13:33:52 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:33:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0907101229h49133ef3jbcede567a1128a8a@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> <8de85a9c0907101229h49133ef3jbcede567a1128a8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: No, sorry . I've seen neither. _____ From: Jeff Foster [mailto:tr3.4.me at gmail.com] Sent: July 10, 2009 3:29 PM To: Robert Duquette Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. Ah, that explains it! Well then, can you tell us ... did you happen to see ED while you was at MJ's memorial service? On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: Sorry! I'll try not to let you down again! I'm on vacation. :) -----Original Message----- From: CosmicMag1380 Sent: July 10, 2009 6:54 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: Some curiosities from the '58 regarding fuel delivery. Symptoms include running a bit warm ~2000F, loss of power (no Kidding) Since RD hasn't jumped in here with a humorous comment yet, I will... Most internal combustion engines shouldn't be run at 2000 degrees F as they WILL loose power! From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 14:03:03 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:03:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. In-Reply-To: References: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> <8de85a9c0907101229h49133ef3jbcede567a1128a8a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907101303w450a4122u3ee8b192d0c8f053@mail.gmail.com> > Well then, can you tell us ... did you happen to see ED while you was at > MJ's memorial service? At least he wasn't caught up in the Burr Oaks Cemetery scandal in Alsip... http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/1660395,CST-NWS-mitch10.article From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 14:36:40 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:36:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fuel Delivery Message-ID: <37dc82d40907101336l312fde24t929d2f5edafcb8c0@mail.gmail.com> Mark, Makes me wonder what running an OER carb would do in the same situation as the OER (which takes all the Weber jets, emulsion tubes) also has a float bowl adjustment as well as an accelerator pump adjustment designed so that the engine will not starve in certain racing applicaitons? I have been running with a Japanese OER for the last 4 years. The thing meters fuel like a Swiss Watch. . always on target. Kirk 59 1275 From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 10 14:47:44 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:47:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. In-Reply-To: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> References: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <4A57A8F0.2060202@comcast.net> Check that the gas cap vent is not blocked. If there is a rush of air after it stales when you remove the cap, get a new cap. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 10 14:56:46 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:56:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil in gas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A57AB0E.3070401@comcast.net> Michael Rowe wrote: > It turns out that my wife does not understand which of our engines needs oil in the gas (she really doesn't understand 2- vs. 4-cycle), and she thought I should put oil in my Spridget and lawnmower gas. ("They are small, aren't they?") > > Suppose this "happened." Could the engine be cleaned out without dismantling it? > I wouldn't even clean it out. Just think of all that "upper end" lubrication you will be getting. Just drive it, it might smoke a little but it will not hurt anything except maybe the spark plugs and that is only if you have a full tank of gas/oil. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 10 16:15:59 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:15:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. In-Reply-To: <402188520907101303w450a4122u3ee8b192d0c8f053@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com><8de85a9c0907101229h49133ef3jbcede567a1128a8a@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907101303w450a4122u3ee8b192d0c8f053@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Imagine that ... people dying to get in to that place and then they get treated like that. -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb > Well then, can you tell us ... did you happen to see ED while you was at > MJ's memorial service? At least he wasn't caught up in the Burr Oaks Cemetery scandal in Alsip... http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/1660395,CST-NWS-mitch10.article From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 10 16:20:22 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:20:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A57BEA6.7060400@sbcglobal.net> Mark, It was great to meet you and the Buyeye in Breckenridge. The Facet pump works better as a pusher than a puller, so mounting back by the tank would help. Also, a couple of fuel filters, one before and one after the pump, are cheap insurance. Replacing the metal fuel lines forward of the bellhousing with rubber and routing them as far away from the engine heat as possible helps with vapor lock. Starving for fuel leads to lean conditions and warm engine (200 not 2000.) Dropping the tank is easy. I used a gallon of lacquer thinner and some pea gravel to clean mine and it worked great. One thing to note is if you have these problems with a near empty tank, but not on a full tank it could be the pickup. Keep us posted. Lee > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 02:11:16 GMT > From: "Mark Haynes" > Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Message-ID: <20090709.201116.10848.0 at webmail04.dca.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Listerati- > Some curiosities from the '58 regarding fuel delivery. At MG2009, I > tried to run the rallye, but had trouble getting fuel delivered to the carbs > going up Loveland Pass. So I punted, installed an electric on the fender well. > It seemed to do the trick until I went to drive home. Again on Loveland Pass > (~ the 12000 foot level) it crapped out again. When I let it sit and cool > down, it comes back to life, but only if its headed downhill (even with the > electric) > Symptoms include running a bit warm ~2000F, loss of power (no Kidding) lack of > fuel at the carbs, if I hold back on the throttle,it will pulse and then pick > up, pulse and pick up as the fuel alternately fills the bowls and empties (I'm > assuming). > In looking at it after I got home, I saw that I'd dented the tank one of the > times that I'd whipped it around to try to finish the rallye. Could I have > shaken some rust loose and plugged up the strainer in the tank, and can I > clean it when I pull the tank? > I'm considering pulling the tank and cleaning it with a piece of chain (to > abrade the contaminants) and then use Metal Ready, moving the electric to the > rear just upstream of the tank, and either rerouting the fuel line to keep it > from running around the front and bottom of the engine or leaving the > mechanical in place for the electric to push to. > Anyone tried using an electric as a pusher pump? I can't find a kit for the > mechanical either (haven't looked too hard yet). > > > > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Jul 10 16:29:47 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:29:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring box leak Message-ID: <4E7BC59915FA474BB10B30F851BD1CBA@Home> I am happy to report that, after several days of cutting and fussing and cogitating I finally got my BE spring base plate off without damaging the spring box (much). So now I can repair the mess under. I learned that there is an open hole through the front of the spring box into the hat section on the floor. This is undoubtedly the reason that area is so often rusted out. This may also be the reason the early floors had vents under the hat section. Has anyone tried to block the opening off to keep water out of the forward structure? It would not be hard to make a plug with squirt foam. Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Bugeye Kit Long Island, NY From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 10 18:06:02 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:06:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. References: <20090709.201116.10848.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com><8de85a9c0907101229h49133ef3jbcede567a1128a8a@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907101303w450a4122u3ee8b192d0c8f053@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4004C4973AA242B0930D57001132B8E3@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. > Well then, can you tell us ... did you happen to see ED while you was at > MJ's memorial service? At least he wasn't caught up in the Burr Oaks Cemetery scandal in Alsip... http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/1660395,CST-NWS-mitch10.article _______________________________________________ I dunno, David, he kinda looks like one of those that got dug up. From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 19:20:32 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:20:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil in gas In-Reply-To: <4A57AB0E.3070401@comcast.net> References: <4A57AB0E.3070401@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907101820y3339083g7e430c2f2b1ede65@mail.gmail.com> Would have been better had it of been 2-cycle oil...developed to be burnt! Herb From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 19:29:28 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Spotted!!! Message-ID: <681725.4286.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There WAS an Michael Jackson tie-in. Quite a stirring tribute - not a dry eye in this house (put down your beer for this one): http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/x5ryilDItZNr1wiT That's http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/x5ryilDItZNr1wiT Ron From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 20:01:55 2009 From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:01:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Spotted!!! In-Reply-To: <681725.4286.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <681725.4286.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Tenuous at best... :) Anon On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > There WAS an Michael Jackson tie-in. Quite a stirring tribute - not a dry > eye in this house (put down your beer for this one): > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as eric.t.cartman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Fri Jul 10 20:12:45 2009 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] demister ducts Message-ID: <264747.49667.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Greetings I have a set of demister ducts i want to install in my sprite. They are the type where the flexible hose enters at the centre, and they have 2 small lugs to one side , for fasteners. My sprite was, i believe, not fitted with a heater from the factory. I am wondering how these ducts are fastened. It looks like they are supposed to be screwed directly to the cowl, meaning the heads of the screws are clearly visible, and I have to drill through the bodywork 4 times. Can anyone tell me otherwise? Is there a sneaky way to attach these? Not keen to drill through the paint, especially in such an obvious place...right in front of your eyes. cheers, Andy _____________________________________________________________________________ _______ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 20:24:50 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:24:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] demister ducts In-Reply-To: <264747.49667.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <264747.49667.qm@web50603.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402188520907101924g7f0f0ca1mdd90dbbe4f44ca97@mail.gmail.com> > I have a set of demister ducts i want to install in my sprite. > They are the type where the flexible hose enters at the centre, and they have > 2 small lugs to one side , for fasteners. Yup. Use pretty shiny PoziDriv screws and it will look just fine. ED From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri Jul 10 20:31:00 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:31:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Spotted!!! References: <681725.4286.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: That's just not right! But do we need to do a serious check up on Ed, not that I really miss him. Ed, if you are listening let us know.. Mark Nashville From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 20:41:24 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:41:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne Message-ID: Sorry to bomb the list but Bud seems to be missing too! I've tried emailing him directly a couple of times with no response... Anyone have a contact number for him? -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 20:46:51 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:46:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> > Sorry to bomb the list but Bud seems to be missing too! I've tried emailing > him directly a couple of times with no response... Anyone have a contact > number for him? Sounds like it is time to get some of you guys to write wills leaving your Spridgets to us younger dudes... Lorry Denials From abcoz at hky.com Fri Jul 10 20:54:22 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:54:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne In-Reply-To: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> Here I am, David. Sorry I missed your emails. I've been in the "lurk" mode, lately. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne >> Sorry to bomb the list but Bud seems to be missing too! I've tried >> emailing >> him directly a couple of times with no response... Anyone have a contact >> number for him? > > Sounds like it is time to get some of you guys to write wills leaving > your Spridgets to us younger dudes... > Lorry Denials > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as abcoz at hky.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Jul 10 20:57:57 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:57:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Temp guage rebuild Message-ID: <8C31379014C6491DA44CF27324968B53@blackbox2> This works easy. I just did it tonight. http://www.ply33.com/Repair/tempgauge Thanks to whoever originally posted this link. I used a Sunpro temp guage from Autozone ~$16US I bought a copper splice tube from the local hobby shop (it's about 0.10 OD). The original Bugeye capillary is larger and you will have to drill the splice tube out just as indicated in the article. The new capillary on the Sunpro is thinner but the outer spring seems to be much tougher to cut than the original. The Sunpro fitting fits the Bugeye radiator, although it is a little shorter than the original. My original nut was rounded over and corroded, and is one reason why I'm doing this. When you are all finished you can intertwin the new outer cover spring with the old spring on the gauge side and all is well. Heck of a lot cheaper than what that dude on ebay is charging. If your uncomfortable with doing this yourself feel free to email me off list.. From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 10 21:24:25 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:24:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC -- Canoeing Message-ID: <402188520907102024t5923f47an698f99388f4bca38@mail.gmail.com> No, not in a Spridget. I just had a lovely time Tuesday paddling down the Nippersink Creek with my daughter. A lovely sunny day with temps in the low 70's. We put the canoe in at Glacier Park near Wonder Lake, IL and paddled the full 18 miles or so to Pistakee Lake in under 6 hours. It is a lovely stretch surrounded by marshes, woods, fields and an occasional house or two. You paddle under half a dozen bridges or so, but we saw no other people other than the ones driving over some of the bridges. We did see lots of other things, however... 5 or 6 belted king fishers, a glimpse of a beaver and a muskrat, a white-tail deer, an owl, a Blandings Turtle, a family of wood ducks, many great blue herons, a couple of green herons, several varieties of frogs, a red-tail hawk, a couple of other turtles, as well as lots of other stuff glimpsed too quickly to properly ID. David L From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 10 21:53:24 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:53:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne In-Reply-To: <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> That just leaves MR ED. We know he's had medical problems. Maybe someone who lives close should go check on him. Kate Bud Osbourne wrote: > Here I am, David. Sorry I missed your emails. I've been in the > "lurk" mode, lately. > Bud > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne > > >>> Sorry to bomb the list but Bud seems to be missing too! I've tried >>> emailing >>> him directly a couple of times with no response... Anyone have a >>> contact >>> number for him? >> >> Sounds like it is time to get some of you guys to write wills leaving >> your Spridgets to us younger dudes... >> Lorry Denials >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as abcoz at hky.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat Jul 11 05:20:14 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:20:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Philly_MG_Club] Re: my midget for sale References: <8CBC94337270FDC-E80-31C@FWM-D04.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8A005CE7-AF96-479B-A3D4-7F89FCC0647E@phillymgclub.com> NFI, just passing along. Very nice yellow car. Nice fellow too. Larry Begin forwarded message: > Sorry club members but the time has come for me to put my 79 midget > up for sale. Some of you may remember the car. It is Inca Yellow, > has "special" stripes on the side, luggage rack. Engine has weber > downdraft, headers, Monza exhaust. It has 43 K miles. It has not > been inspected this year. It needs a rear axle seal and the dash > has a small crack, but I have a moss dash cover for it. I also have > a lot of extra parts, especially brakes. I need to get $3000 for > it, if you know anyone looking for a midget in good condition, plese > let me know. > Thanks, > John Poynton John Poynton -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 05:46:37 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:46:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne In-Reply-To: <4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> <4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> > That just leaves MR ED. We know he's had medical problems. Maybe someone > who lives close should go check on him. OK, his house is only 40 minutes or so away from me. I will drive over there today and look around. David L From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jul 11 07:20:25 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:20:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> <4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <412036787.20090711062025@pacifier.com> Hello David, Thanx for going to look. I think we're all concerned. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Daddy, what does "Formatting Drive C:" mean? From nlaredbt7 at tbc.net Sat Jul 11 08:14:39 2009 From: nlaredbt7 at tbc.net (Neil Anderson) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:14:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com><35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC><4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I just called Ed's house to see if I could reach him or Cindy. I have his number from the AHCA membership directory. I got his answering machine and left a message explaining that we had not heard from him on the Spridget list for quite a few days and that list members were concerned about his absence. I told him to contact the list to let us know if all is well. He may be on vacation. Neil Anderson Chicago area Healey club ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Kathryn Bales" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne >> That just leaves MR ED. We know he's had medical problems. Maybe >> someone >> who lives close should go check on him. > > OK, his house is only 40 minutes or so away from me. I will drive over > there today and look around. > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nlaredbt7 at tbc.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 11 08:21:07 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:21:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne In-Reply-To: References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com><35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC><4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net><402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If he were on vacation, wouldn't his business number have a message on it? -----Original Message----- From: Neil Anderson I just called Ed's house to see if I could reach him or Cindy. I have his number from the AHCA membership directory. I got his answering machine and left a message explaining that we had not heard from him on the Spridget list for quite a few days and that list members were concerned about his absence. I told him to contact the list to let us know if all is well. He may be on vacation. Neil Anderson Chicago area Healey club ----- Original Message ----- From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Jul 11 08:29:57 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:29:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne In-Reply-To: References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com><35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC><4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net><402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A58A1E5.2000800@frontiernet.net> He's not allowed to do that without letting us know. Kate > > -----Original Message----- > From: Neil Anderson > > He may be on vacation. > > Neil Anderson > Chicago area Healey club > > ----- Original Message ----- > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 09:36:34 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:36:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, need help testing & installing a new phone jack from 2 outside phone wires (no dial tone) Message-ID: <205cef430907110836m38e5cc2vee57bd1fe4e8f239@mail.gmail.com> I'm in a jam here in my partner's Brooklyn apartment trying to get her land line phone (no dsl or internet) to work. Her brother removed a non load bearing wall in the kicthen and removed the wall jack in the process. He knew nothing about electricity so he just re connected the matching wires (I never saw the image & no wire photos or sketches provided) and now there is no land line dial tone. Her brother went back to Michigan so I'm unable to ask him questions but being he knows nothing about electricity it wouldn't help anyway. I want to test the incoming line (COOP apartment) to determine if the phone company is needed as it is extremely expensive to get any work done in the city therefore the process of elimination is best.. I looked at the jack box which connects to the outside wires and I see 2 black wires coming into the apt. they are connected to the (old fasion jack box which has no plug for the phone) so I purchased a jack box which btw is a plastic piece of crap and will break soon. One of the 2 black wires are connected to the red terminal of the house line and the other to the green house line. I think I remember only 2 lines are used out of the 4 provided on a phone line am I correct? So the yellow and the black strand are clipped and not connected. I connected the outside black to the new box on the red phone line wire and the other black outside line to the green. I am not using any other jack box colors. When I plugged in the phone I get no dial tone. I'm on my way to a memorial service for my dear deceased father's girlfriend who passed away the other day and will check back on line for replies. I can send pictures if you want. Unfortunately I do have an ohm's meeter so I can't test with that can anyone tell me how? I saw online a way to plug in a phone to the outside tester port on the box but being this is a big apartment I suspect that won't be easy. Thank you in advance. Linda I can call via my cell for one on one help if that will be easier but not until I get back from the service in Queens. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat Jul 11 10:29:25 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:29:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: <412036787.20090711062025@pacifier.com> References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> <4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> <412036787.20090711062025@pacifier.com> Message-ID: FWIW, Special Ed posted to the 9issa joke list on the 28th of June. Nothing since then. Larry On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello David, > > Thanx for going to look. I think we're all concerned. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Daddy, what does "Formatting Drive C:" mean? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From richb at u.washington.edu Sat Jul 11 10:48:08 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:48:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com><35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC><4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <78F7F0917B614D819656F0B324D962F9@m275laptop> Thanks David I don't actually know Ed, but I have emailed him a couple of times since mid June dangling the carrot of buying some parts and heard nothing. I know he had been actively emailing Ed Perez here in Washington about selling him some parts for his engine rebuild for our next NOSHIT next weekend and that has abruptly stopped. Also about the same time Ryan received half his order with the promise of the rest to be sent shortly, he has heard nothing. At first I thought maybe he had gone off to the MGB meet in Colorado as a vendor, but that has now been wrapped up and it seems we should have heard something from him. Just concerned. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Kathryn Bales" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 4:46 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, Trying to contact Bud Osbourne >> That just leaves MR ED. We know he's had medical problems. Maybe >> someone >> who lives close should go check on him. > > OK, his house is only 40 minutes or so away from me. I will drive over > there today and look around. > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 10:57:57 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:57:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> <4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> <412036787.20090711062025@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907110957p438fcc77m6787a6c3b2e73112@mail.gmail.com> FWIW, Ed posted on the Healey's list this past Wednesday, July 8th. http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/healeys/2009-07/msg00195.html On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Larry Macy wrote: > FWIW, > > Special Ed posted to the 9issa joke list on the 28th of June. Nothing > since then. > > Larry > > On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Bill L wrote: > > > Hello David, > > > > Thanx for going to look. I think we're all concerned. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > > > Daddy, what does "Formatting Drive C:" mean? > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a > parked car. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tr3.4.me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Jul 11 11:05:41 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:05:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> <4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> <412036787.20090711062025@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4A58C665.9020400@frontiernet.net> That's exactly why we're worried. It's just not like him to keep his mouth shut this long. Kate Larry Macy wrote: > FWIW, > > Special Ed posted to the 9issa joke list on the 28th of June. Nothing > since then. > > Larry > > On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Bill L wrote: > > >> Hello David, >> >> Thanx for going to look. I think we're all concerned. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com >> >> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" >> >> Daddy, what does "Formatting Drive C:" mean? >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 11:14:49 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, need help testing & installing a new phone jack from 2 outside phone wires (no dial tone) Message-ID: <935425.46685.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Linda, I'm no expert, but I did successfully rewire all the phone wiring in my 70+ year old house. Since nobody else has volunteered yet, I'll put in my two cent's worth. Yes - the phone only uses two wires. The other two can be used for a second line or for other things that don't matter to you at this point. The problem with old buildings is that you don't know what the previous owners have done to patch problems in the past (kinda like our cars, huh?) First - take an old phone that you can strip the ends of the wire off of and touch them to the two incoming wires. If you have dial tone, it's not a phone company issue (at least not one they fix on their dime). It could be that some DPO has connected your red and green incoming lines to some other combination elsewhere along the way. This was the case in some places in my house. Since there are four wires, there are only six combinations of wire pairs possible. If this is the case, you have to figure out which pair are actually at the jack. Pull the jack out of the wall and see what you have there, if still red & green, that's probably not the issue. There are various ways to check continuity of phone wires. If like me, you don't have any fancy equipment, you can tape or otherwise secure a 9V battery (maybe others too, I just seem to always have those around) to the two wires at the box. I'm talking about the ones that go into the house, not the ones to the pole. You then just take a little speaker - the ones in a phone or a set of headphones work well - and hook it to the various wire pairs till you get a noise. Crude but effective. From there, all you have to do is make sure the jack is wired with the correct colors/positions to match up with your phone. Good Luck, David Booker Long Island From thcollin at mtu.edu Sat Jul 11 11:54:48 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 13:54:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] In the News Message-ID: <7ll0se$6m40hj@email.mtu.edu> A local newspaper reporter attended the Saturday night gathering of cars at the Big Boy parking lot in Midland last week and asked to do a story about my Sprite. I guess a Little British Car in the backyard of Detroit is an oddity although Doug Altman lives nearby with his Bugeye, but in a different county. Today the story was on the front page of the Midland Daily News - displacing political travel stories and the reorganization of Gov. Motors, etc. Unfortunately, the newspaper published a picture of a 1950 Chevy along with the story. It's a white Chevy with red and blue flames! Oh, well. . . http://tinyurl.com/kr5fb3 Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From pchast at francomm.com Sat Jul 11 16:40:36 2009 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:40:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, need help testing & installing a new phone jack from 2 outside phone wires (no dial tone) In-Reply-To: <205cef430907110836m38e5cc2vee57bd1fe4e8f239@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430907110836m38e5cc2vee57bd1fe4e8f239@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: David has it right but let me add. Once you have the two wires you may have to switch them red for green to get the right polarity. David well said simply. Pete On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:36:34 -0700, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > I'm in a jam here in my partner's Brooklyn apartment trying to get her > land > line phone (no dsl or internet) to work. Her brother removed a non load > bearing wall in the kicthen and removed the wall jack in the process. He > knew nothing about electricity so he just re connected the matching > wires (I > never saw the image & no wire photos or sketches provided) and now there > is > no land line dial tone. Her brother went back to Michigan so I'm unable > to > ask him questions but being he knows nothing about electricity it > wouldn't > help anyway. > > I want to test the incoming line (COOP apartment) to determine if the > phone > company is needed as it is extremely expensive to get any work done in > the > city therefore the process of elimination is best.. I looked at the jack > box > which connects to the outside wires and I see 2 black wires coming into > the > apt. they are connected to the (old fasion jack box which has no plug for > the phone) so I purchased a jack box which btw is a plastic piece of crap > and will break soon. One of the 2 black wires are connected to the red > terminal of the house line and the other to the green house line. I > think I > remember only 2 lines are used out of the 4 provided on a phone line am I > correct? So the yellow and the black strand are clipped and not > connected. I > connected the outside black to the new box on the red phone line wire and > the other black outside line to the green. I am not using any other jack > box colors. When I plugged in the phone I get no dial tone. > > I'm on my way to a memorial service for my dear deceased father's > girlfriend who passed away the other day and will check back on line for > replies. I can send pictures if you want. Unfortunately I do have an > ohm's > meeter so I can't test with that can anyone tell me how? I saw online a > way > to plug in a phone to the outside tester port on the box but being this > is a > big apartment I suspect that won't be easy. > > Thank you in advance. > Linda > I can call via my cell for one on one help if that will be easier but not > until I get back from the service in Queens. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pchast at francomm.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 11 14:21:48 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:21:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: <915833.25199.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <915833.25199.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A big little Healey: http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page.php/carno/47469 There's another pedal car somewhere that I saw for sale in restorable condition ... but I'm not finding it. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker Sent: July 6, 2009 9:29 PM To: Spridgets; Buster Evans; Frank Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner Congratulations Frank and Diane and Frankie and Jen and Auntie T. Seventeen years till he needs a Sprite? Heck, you barely have a few months to find and restore an appropriate pedal car... Has anybody ever seen a bugeye pedal car before? - David Booker 71 ex-Frank Midget Long Island --- On Mon, 7/6/09, Frank wrote: From: Frank Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner To: "Spridgets" , "Buster Evans" Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 4:24 PM Has arrived today making me a first time grandpop and the Clarici's now have a 4th generation Sprite driver, well soon to be in the next 17 years or so. I bought my Sprite from my dad, my son has a Sprite from his dad, and I am sure my grandson will have a Sprite of his own. Frank A. Clarici 5th 7 lbs 4 ozs 20" long Everybody is doing just great. I am off to smoke a hand rolled cigar, drink a few beers, and discuss what color to paint the newborn's Sprite with my son. ;) Heck, I forgot I have to restore that USA made antique tricycle and Radio Flyer wagon before I start the Sprite project. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 15:04:15 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:04:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: <4A58C665.9020400@frontiernet.net> References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> <4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> <412036787.20090711062025@pacifier.com> <4A58C665.9020400@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907111404n17945183ve2d3c7287b353226@mail.gmail.com> Something is wrong. He would have insulted SOMEBODY by now..... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > That's exactly why we're worried. It's just not like him to keep his mouth > shut this long. > > Kate > > > Larry Macy wrote: > >> FWIW, >> >> Special Ed posted to the 9issa joke list on the 28th of June. Nothing >> since then. >> >> Larry >> >> On Jul 11, 2009, at 9:20 AM, Bill L wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello David, >>> >>> Thanx for going to look. I think we're all concerned. >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com >>> >>> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" >>> >>> Daddy, what does "Formatting Drive C:" mean? >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >>> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 15:05:48 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:05:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: <4A58C665.9020400@frontiernet.net> References: <402188520907101946k7baae55ep987f1fc89f7c2ebf@mail.gmail.com> <35377B37CCBB4012B1352C285BBDF222@OwnerPC> <4A580CB4.3090807@frontiernet.net> <402188520907110446k7e16ae0dk5d56dd34b4e85012@mail.gmail.com> <412036787.20090711062025@pacifier.com> <4A58C665.9020400@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <402188520907111405j5a21ef1eu4ff6fe2263a7f24a@mail.gmail.com> OK, I drove over to ED's house today. Got there about 1pm. Two Elcamino's in the driveway as well as Cindy's purple 73 MGB that no one has seen move. Lights on in the house as well as the TV. Windows open. Door to the shop locked. No one answered the door after half a dozen rings of the (functional) doorbell. No bodies floating in the swimming pool. Lawn mown within the last week, but he uses a service, so that does not count. When I approached the back door of the house, both spaniels barked at me, but no one showed up. The dogs did not appear to be distressed or hungry. SNAFU. David L From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sat Jul 11 15:13:03 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:13:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: <402188520907111405j5a21ef1eu4ff6fe2263a7f24a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1487338210.469241247346783562.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Ed finally pissed off the government or did something REALLY ILLEGAL and they took him away in the middle of the night (or during primetime TV)....nice neighbors are feeding the dogs. Dogs barked at you cause they thought you worked for the government and were coming after them to. Ed if you get this and it is not the case let us know or the rumors will continue and get worse.... ryan kubanoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:05:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Special ED. OK, I drove over to ED's house today. Got there about 1pm. Two Elcamino's in the driveway as well as Cindy's purple 73 MGB that no one has seen move. Lights on in the house as well as the TV. Windows open. Door to the shop locked. No one answered the door after half a dozen rings of the (functional) doorbell. No bodies floating in the swimming pool. Lawn mown within the last week, but he uses a service, so that does not count. When I approached the back door of the house, both spaniels barked at me, but no one showed up. The dogs did not appear to be distressed or hungry. SNAFU. David L _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 15:27:27 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. Message-ID: <198215.13929.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> FWIW - I just called and there was no answer. David Booker Long Island --- On Sat, 7/11/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Special ED. To: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009, 4:05 PM OK, I drove over to ED's house today. Got there about 1pm. Two Elcamino's in the driveway as well as Cindy's purple 73 MGB that no one has seen move. Lights on in the house as well as the TV. Windows open. Door to the shop locked. No one answered the door after half a dozen rings of the (functional) doorbell. No bodies floating in the swimming pool. Lawn mown within the last week, but he uses a service, so that does not count. When I approached the back door of the house, both spaniels barked at me, but no one showed up. The dogs did not appear to be distressed or hungry. SNAFU. David L You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 16:05:47 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:05:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Next Generation Sprite owner In-Reply-To: References: <915833.25199.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907111505y5c149y56673cafb089b459@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > A big little Healey: > > http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/classic-car-page.php/carno/47469 > > Cool! A (little) big Healey I can afford! Unfortunately I think it'd not be very effective for getting myself around town. From haynes386 at netzero.net Sat Jul 11 18:28:39 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:28:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Gas tank and pump thoughts. Message-ID: <20090711.182839.21626.1@webmail17.dca.untd.com> OK. It didn't come across right, I guess Shift-2-4-8 doesn't give the degree symbol on the list (It works at work though). It was supposed to be 200 degrees Farenheit. I DO know the difference, really. and if it were running 2000, my feet would have been burning almost as much as my ears have been since I sent that. Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ All dressed up with someplace to go? Click here for a great selection of costumes! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxZx9n2cbuIckOnGwbkSRd4JC A989ogCSMYZmrwu90EwazGaBO9Ivm/ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 11 18:41:41 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:41:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, need help testing & installing a new phone jack from 2 outside phone wires (no dial tone) In-Reply-To: <935425.46685.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <935425.46685.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A593145.5050604@comcast.net> David Booker wrote: > If like me, you > don't have any fancy equipment, you can tape or otherwise secure a 9V battery > (maybe others too, I just seem to always have those around) to the two wires > at the box. I'm talking about the ones that go into the house, not the ones > to the pole. You then just take a little speaker - the ones in a phone or a > set of headphones work well - and hook it to the various wire pairs till you > get a noise. Crude but effective. > Geeze David, I would have just hooked up the 9v battery and stuck the wires on my tongue to see if it had juice. You know, like how I was taught to see if the 9v has juice when you touch it to your tongue. So I learned something, I don't have to zap my tongue anymore but I love the tingle ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jul 11 19:08:48 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] V Cool Message-ID: <821684.85512.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've never seen one of theses before - Rochdale: http://bringatrailer.com/2009/07/10/cheap-and-rare-1962-rochdale-olympic/ Ron From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Jul 11 19:14:02 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:14:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, need help testing & installing a new phone jack from 2 outside phone wires (no dial tone) In-Reply-To: <4A593145.5050604@comcast.net> References: <935425.46685.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A593145.5050604@comcast.net> Message-ID: <402188520907111814v79774224hbe37d7c78d2466c@mail.gmail.com> > Geeze David, I would have just hooked up the 9v battery and stuck the wires > on my tongue to see if it had juice. > You know, like how I was taught to see if the 9v has juice when you touch it > to your tongue. > So I learned something, I don't have to zap my tongue anymore but I love the > tingle ;) Yeah, but he mighta had the wrong pair and you licked the -48vdc of the phone line... or someone mights called right then and given you the -96 ring voltage ;-) David L From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jul 6 14:28:44 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 16:28:44 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Hi to the list Message-ID: Hi List, I'm still here on the list but not getting any list e-mails! Hope I'm not missing too much. Not much changes here. I have at long last obtained a Janspeed valve (rocker) cover for my spare, spare engine. I have a number of small projects on the go. My 4 clock dashboard still looks fantastic. If anyone wants any silicone hose, especially cross flow hoses I might put an order together in late July. I think the dollar is still strong against the pound so a good deal for you guys. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jul 11 19:39:41 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:39:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] V Cool In-Reply-To: <821684.85512.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <821684.85512.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_Olympic#The_Rochdale_Olympic ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:09 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] V Cool I've never seen one of theses before - Rochdale: http://bringatrailer.com/2009/07/10/cheap-and-rare-1962-rochdale-olympic/ Ron _______________________________________________ From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Jul 11 19:50:14 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 18:50:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] V Cool In-Reply-To: <821684.85512.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <821684.85512.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A58DEE6.21752.B91CF5@kk7ss.verizon.net> I built one in '65 -- Ford Anglia engine + box. Ford Rally brakes, skiiny tires (all they had in those days!!) Really nice handling, BUT... The fiberglass is the earliest "shot" type and is quite thin and breaks where the hood and door hinges fit. And the intake scoop is prone to fracturing at the curved portions. Liked to over heat occasionally but that shouldn't be a problem with the MGB running gear. BTDT... But it goes where you point it... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jul 11 20:57:46 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:57:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Spotted!!! In-Reply-To: <681725.4286.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <681725.4286.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <081FA9CF044B4D7787AD841422016103@BASEMENTDELL> TINY URL PLEASE http://tinyurl.com/nzaqu6 Big grin :)) 4 ED -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:29 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Spotted!!! There WAS an Michael Jackson tie-in. Quite a stirring tribute - not a dry eye in this house (put down your beer for this one): http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/x5ryilDItZNr1wiT That's http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/x5ryilDItZNr1wiT From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Jul 11 23:46:28 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 22:46:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone near Amarillo, TX?? Message-ID: <4A591644.763.7039B7@kk7ss.verizon.net> Please contact me off-list (saves clutter!) Thanks -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From grday at btinternet.com Sun Jul 12 03:33:49 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:33:49 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] V Cool References: <821684.85512.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <92AB2647C69644B69960A7706E82E8AE@dell330> These were made around 3 miles away from where I live and I worked with one of the guys who used to work there for a few years upto the fire which basically took out the car making business. They were a good car, and behaved well, EXCEPT, and it is a big EXCEPT for a car of this nature, the damn thing became light and would take off at high speeds. A little too aerodynamic! Have a look at http://www.rochdale-owners-club.co.uk/olympic.htm if you want to see more of them. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 2:08 AM Subject: [Spridgets] V Cool > I've never seen one of theses before - Rochdale: > > http://bringatrailer.com/2009/07/10/cheap-and-rare-1962-rochdale-olympic/ > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 12 06:27:10 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:27:10 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] List e-mails Message-ID: Looks like some list e-mails are getting through to me again. Weslake Monza 1330 From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 07:46:08 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:46:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SPVP4 nitrided camshaft FS Message-ID: <160482.79836.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorting through some stuff last night, I found I have 2 APT/Vizard Scatter Pattern SP-VP4 cams, star drive, nitrided. I am going to keep one for a project, the other will be go ebay, but if anyone wants it, $90 delivered. Pictures if anyone is interested. It looks to be in fine shape. Specs are on APTs website, www.aptfast.com. Ron From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 09:21:22 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:21:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, need help testing & installing a new phone jack from 2 outside phone wires (no dial tone) In-Reply-To: <402188520907111814v79774224hbe37d7c78d2466c@mail.gmail.com> References: <935425.46685.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A593145.5050604@comcast.net> <402188520907111814v79774224hbe37d7c78d2466c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430907120821n4206521ev5d69eb8164d7bc0b@mail.gmail.com> THE PHONE WORKS! Yippy! You guys are GREAT! I got the line working at point of entry after testing for voltage and connecting to the red and green only. I had to do a little troubleshooting to figure out why the line in the other rooms didnt work. It turns out that when her brother removed the wall where a phone jack was he connected the wires together correctly red to red, black to black and so on. Turns out the red or green line in the other room may have had a short so they used yellow and black. I used the speakerphone to touch the wires till I got the correct pair and the correct polarity and it works! Deni & I want to thank this entire list for helping us with this little but frustrating problem especially, Dave L. Dave B. Mark Pete C. Michael in WI Rick Lee All Ive missed I want you all to know when my dear father passed away I was unsure who I could go to with my technical questions as he always had a solution to home problems. I knew this list was much much more than the typical web list. Some sites for other cars are very strict with blasting with non specific auto questions but this list has been so kind to help. Although I hope I dont annoy any Spridgeteers with non Spridget questions I hope putting Not LBC is adequate. Deni was so impressed with the replies of help and may I add intelligent answers that I have her convinced we will always own a Spridget, thank GOD. As we all know it can be difficult to convince our partners that this passion is in their best interest : ) BTW Thank you all, Linda & Deni PS I took a little video of the phone box outside the building and it is hilarious Ill post on youtube later today. On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 9:14 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Geeze David, I would have just hooked up the 9v battery and stuck the > wires > > on my tongue to see if it had juice. > > You know, like how I was taught to see if the 9v has juice when you touch > it > > to your tongue. > > So I learned something, I don't have to zap my tongue anymore but I love > the > > tingle ;) > > > Yeah, but he mighta had the wrong pair and you licked the -48vdc of > the phone line... or someone mights called right then and given you > the -96 ring voltage ;-) > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 09:50:10 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] SPVP4 nitrided camshaft FS Message-ID: <865646.5305.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Cam is sold; thanks for the replies. --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Ron Soave wrote: > From: Ron Soave > Subject: [Spridgets] SPVP4 nitrided camshaft FS > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 8:46 AM > Sorting through some stuff last > night, I found I have 2 APT/Vizard Scatter Pattern SP-VP4 > cams, star drive, nitrided. I am going to keep one for a > project, the other will be go ebay, but if anyone wants it, > $90 delivered. Pictures if anyone is interested. It looks to > be in fine shape. Specs are on APTs website, > www.aptfast.com. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun Jul 12 09:53:41 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] cutting and fitting kodex heater hose? Message-ID: <1621013253.605241247414021871.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I bought the stuff from the missing ED and its about 12" to long. How to you cut this stuff or how do you route it through the car? i have a 74 and it never came with one and I can't find a good picture anywhere. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 09:54:21 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:54:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - We Choose The Moon Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907120854l443b5607i226ffadc9a647157@mail.gmail.com> Way off topic but I thought some of you might enjoy this Web site recreates Apollo 11 mission in real time http://wechoosethemoon.org/ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 10:02:17 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, need help testing & installing a new phone jack from 2 outside phone wires (no dial tone) Message-ID: <128334.24208.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote:THE PHONE WORKS! Yippy! Congrats! Phone wiring is fairly simple - just takes a bit of patience (and/or being stubborn enough to refuse to pay somebody else to do it for you) to figure out which wires are used or which ones are still complete and capable of being used. - David From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 10:14:10 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:14:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi to the list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430907120914u6b6b44acm437c38631626ab87@mail.gmail.com> Hi what's a 4 clock dashboard? Lin On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:28 PM, wrote: > Hi List, > > I'm still here on the list but not getting any list e-mails! Hope I'm not > missing too much. > > Not much changes here. I have at long last obtained a Janspeed valve > (rocker) cover for my spare, spare engine. > > I have a number of small projects on the go. > > My 4 clock dashboard still looks fantastic. > > If anyone wants any silicone hose, especially cross flow hoses I might put > an order together in late July. I think the dollar is still strong against > the pound so a good deal for you guys. > > Regards > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Jul 12 11:14:12 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 10:14:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: <1487338210.469241247346783562.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1487338210.469241247346783562.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A5A19E4.80207@frontiernet.net> Cindy finally got fed up and threw him out. ED moved in with his true love Bubba, and they are living happily together along with Bubba's 14 cats. ED now drives a jacked up 4WD Ford with a gun rack and a bumper sticker that reads "Guns don't kill people, I do". He also gave up beer for ginger ale, as Bubba is a recovering alcoholic. Anonymous because ED knows my home address ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Ed finally pissed off the government or did something REALLY ILLEGAL and they took him away in the middle of the night (or during primetime TV)....nice neighbors are feeding the dogs. Dogs barked at you cause they thought you worked for the government and were coming after them to. > > Ed if you get this and it is not the case let us know or the rumors will continue and get worse.... > > > > > ryan kubanoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:05:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Special ED. > > OK, I drove over to ED's house today. Got there about 1pm. Two > Elcamino's in the driveway as well as Cindy's purple 73 MGB that no > one has seen move. Lights on in the house as well as the TV. Windows > open. Door to the shop locked. No one answered the door after half a > dozen rings of the (functional) doorbell. No bodies floating in the > swimming pool. Lawn mown within the last week, but he uses a service, > so that does not count. When I approached the back door of the house, > both spaniels barked at me, but no one showed up. The dogs did not > appear to be distressed or hungry. SNAFU. > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 11:24:33 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:24:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: <4A5A19E4.80207@frontiernet.net> References: <1487338210.469241247346783562.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A5A19E4.80207@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: No, better yet, after self medicating his ED, he had an erection lasting for over 4 hours. He has been in the emergency room, ever since the cat tried to use it for a scratching post. That's MY story, and I'm sticking to it!!! Larry Daniels On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > Cindy finally got fed up and threw him out. ED moved in with his true love > Bubba, and they are living happily together along with Bubba's 14 cats. ED > now drives a jacked up 4WD Ford with a gun rack and a bumper sticker that > reads "Guns don't kill people, I do". He also gave up beer for ginger ale, > as Bubba is a recovering alcoholic. > > Anonymous because ED knows my home address > > > ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > >> Ed finally pissed off the government or did something REALLY ILLEGAL and >> they took him away in the middle of the night (or during primetime >> TV)....nice neighbors are feeding the dogs. Dogs barked at you cause they >> thought you worked for the government and were coming after them to. >> Ed if you get this and it is not the case let us know or the rumors will >> continue and get worse.... >> >> >> >> ryan kubanoff >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> >> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 >> 5:05:48 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Special ED. >> >> OK, I drove over to ED's house today. Got there about 1pm. Two Elcamino's >> in the driveway as well as Cindy's purple 73 MGB that no one has seen move. >> Lights on in the house as well as the TV. Windows open. Door to the shop >> locked. No one answered the door after half a dozen rings of the >> (functional) doorbell. No bodies floating in the swimming pool. Lawn mown >> within the last week, but he uses a service, so that does not count. When I >> approached the back door of the house, both spaniels barked at me, but no >> one showed up. The dogs did not appear to be distressed or hungry. SNAFU. >> David L _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net >> http://www.team.net/archive >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets_______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 12 11:48:49 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:48:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. References: <1487338210.469241247346783562.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4A5A19E4.80207@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <176618C235F34493A4D7370309E669F4@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Kathryn Bales" Cc: "Spridgets" ; "Assn" <9issa at justbrits.com> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Special ED. No, better yet, after self medicating his ED, he had an erection lasting for over 4 hours. He has been in the emergency room, ever since the cat tried to use it for a scratching post. That's MY story, and I'm sticking to it!!! Larry Daniels ======================= Hey, Brad, don't get me involved in this. I can get into enough trouble on my own! Somehow, I get the feeling that the truth will turn out to be weirder than anything you guys can dream up. David Lieb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 12:09:52 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:09:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special ED. In-Reply-To: <176618C235F34493A4D7370309E669F4@Larry> References: <1487338210.469241247346783562.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A5A19E4.80207@frontiernet.net> <176618C235F34493A4D7370309E669F4@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907121109v1d373d38na6e7cb3bb3134b2e@mail.gmail.com> You could br right Larry, but I'll give it a try anyway..... Ed has not only taken the pledge, he has had an epiphany. Forsaking over 60 years of jerkdom, he is about to graduate from the Betty Ford Clinic for the verbally and mentally abusive. His next step in life will be kissing babies, delivering "Meals on Wheels", sitting for hours with the elderly and just listening, becoming a monk with long hours of quiet prayer, and teaching Andrew Carnegie charm school courses. Oh.... And I have some ocean front property going for cheap here in western Kansas... off list if you are interested..... Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: "Kathryn Bales" > Cc: "Spridgets" ; "Assn" <9issa at justbrits.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Special ED. > > > No, better yet, after self medicating his ED, he had an erection lasting > for > over 4 hours. He has been in the emergency room, ever since the cat tried > to > use it for a scratching post. > That's MY story, and I'm sticking to it!!! > > Larry Daniels > > ======================= > > Hey, Brad, don't get me involved in this. I can get into enough trouble on > my own! > > Somehow, I get the feeling that the truth will turn out to be weirder than > anything you guys can dream up. > > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Jul 12 12:19:34 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:19:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Special ED. In-Reply-To: <176618C235F34493A4D7370309E669F4@Larry> References: <1487338210.469241247346783562.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4A5A19E4.80207@frontiernet.net> <176618C235F34493A4D7370309E669F4@Larry> Message-ID: <4A5A2936.70800@frontiernet.net> I doubt it. Most of us are pretty weird and are blessed (cursed) with vivid imaginations. Kate > Somehow, I get the feeling that the truth will turn out to be weirder than > anything you guys can dream up. > > David Lieb > > > _______________________________________________ > 9issa mailing list > 9issa at justbrits.com > http://justbrits.com/mailman/listinfo/9issa_justbrits.com > http://www.justbrits.com From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 12:41:14 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 11:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Check out this amazing guitarist friend of mine Message-ID: <743775.12744.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I went to hear a friend I work with play music with his band Friday night at a local venue on Long Island. I knew he was a good guitar player, but had no idea just how good he really is. His name is Joe Nardulli and his band is called Ad Astra. ("to the stars" in Latin) He plays all original progressive rock / fusion music that I can best describe as similar to or inspired by Jeff Beck, Steve Morse (Dixie Dregs) and Joe Satriani. My words and associations, not his. He really is among the best I've heard. If this sounds at all interesting, go check him out at the two websites below. www.joenardulli.com Check out his gear page too - neat stuff about his amps, guitars and other equipment. Much of it is customized or actually built by Joe himself. www.adastraband.com Go ahead - buy the CD's. You can thank me later. :-) David Booker Long Island From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jul 12 14:41:54 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 16:41:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Old English White Message-ID: <3DADD906A1C44E68B635F00EE5A1B2B9@Home> Some time ago, there was heated discussion of exactly what color is "Old English White." I found these chips that show a color that I guess is much darker than any of us expect for this color. The chips may have faded, of course, and maybe the computer does not reproduce them exactly. The paper comes out slightly pink on my screen. http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1959-ahmg-pg01.jpg Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Jul 12 15:05:40 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:05:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Old English White In-Reply-To: <3DADD906A1C44E68B635F00EE5A1B2B9@Home> References: <3DADD906A1C44E68B635F00EE5A1B2B9@Home> Message-ID: <4A5A5024.9030101@frontiernet.net> My Morris Minor was originally Olde English White. It was repainted once using a Ford color, and I could not tell the difference between the protected, unfaded bits and the repaint. Kate Michael Rowe wrote: > Some time ago, there was heated discussion of exactly what color is "Old English White." I found these chips that show a color that I guess is much darker than any of us expect for this color. The chips may have faded, of course, and maybe the computer does not reproduce them exactly. The paper comes out slightly pink on my screen. > > http://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1959-ahmg-pg01.jpg > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Sprite kit > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 12 15:10:00 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:10:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Old English White In-Reply-To: <4A5A5024.9030101@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > using a Ford color Wimbledon White? From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Jul 12 15:23:56 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:23:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Old English White In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5A546C.8080203@frontiernet.net> That sounds right. Billy Zoom wrote: >> using a Ford color >> > Wimbledon White? From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 16:17:31 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (soavero at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Race car go bang Message-ID: <785749.81504.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Warning - the images below are graphic in nature - During the BHF feature, my oil pressure dropped 10 psi, power was severely diminished and there was a "noise" on the first lap of the feature race. It got shut down just in time - check out the damage. Look at the rest of the crankshaft and the bores - still beautiful. I'm hoping it just needs a crank and I'll be at Grattan. I'm going to take Peter C.'s suggestion and make an EN40B table lamp. Rather than the junkyard route, a full prep EN16T crank is on its way from Ro Dy / Moldex. Check it out: http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/Crank%20and%20WT_Too/ Ron From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 12 16:30:22 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:30:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Race car go bang References: <785749.81504.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I know you said the rod miraculously held the broken crank together, averting serious disaster. Did the rod survive w/o damage? If so, did it earn an early retirement for it's good deed and land a space on the wall of fame? Did your acquisition come off yesterday? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" ; Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 5:17 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Race car go bang Warning - the images below are graphic in nature - During the BHF feature, my oil pressure dropped 10 psi, power was severely diminished and there was a "noise" on the first lap of the feature race. It got shut down just in time - check out the damage. Look at the rest of the crankshaft and the bores - still beautiful. I'm hoping it just needs a crank and I'll be at Grattan. I'm going to take Peter C.'s suggestion and make an EN40B table lamp. Rather than the junkyard route, a full prep EN16T crank is on its way from Ro Dy / Moldex. Check it out: http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/Crank%20and%20WT_Too/ Ron You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 12 16:43:29 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:43:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Race car go bang In-Reply-To: References: <785749.81504.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402188520907121543g40c0ca75w76c9cb9b9e1e4236@mail.gmail.com> I TOLD you that you shoulda finished the race! From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 12 18:00:53 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:00:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hi to the list In-Reply-To: <205cef430907120914u6b6b44acm437c38631626ab87@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430907120914u6b6b44acm437c38631626ab87@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5A7935.8050307@comcast.net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Hi what's a 4 clock dashboard? > Lin > > Linda Across the pond they refer to the gauges as "clocks" so Daniel has a 4 gauge dashboard, I guess it's really a 6 clock dash if you count the speedo and tach. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 12 18:04:42 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:04:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Old English White In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5A7A1A.9030309@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >> using a Ford color >> > Wimbledon White? > _______________________________________________ > Correct, or 63 Ford Falcon -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 18:19:37 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Race car go bang Message-ID: <801592.85662.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > averting serious disaster. Did the rod survive w/o > damage? If so, did it Seemingly. It goes to in this week for a once over. > Did your acquisition come off yesterday? Swimmingly! Pics to Larry - Ron [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of CIMG1608.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of CIMG1609.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of CIMG1615.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of CIMG1625.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of CIMG1626.JPG] From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 12 18:26:49 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 19:26:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Race car go bang References: <801592.85662.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Oh, Yeah!! We need to talk about it. Sorry to see Kris out, but good to see it stay in the family. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" ; ; "Larry Daniels" Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Race car go bang --- On Sun, 7/12/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > averting serious disaster. Did the rod survive w/o > damage? If so, did it Seemingly. It goes to in this week for a once over. > Did your acquisition come off yesterday? Swimmingly! Pics to Larry - Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 12 22:02:44 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Race car go bang Message-ID: <869068.28129.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 7/12/09, JohnD wrote: > Nice crank! Now I'll be > able to keep up with you! A little Scotchbrite, it'll be good as new. Seriously, after 4 years, the condition of those other journals is quite an example of Redline Oil's quality. The rods were ground .010 under in 2007 (and #4 has been problematic ever since), but the mains are 4 years old and ended life at standard diameter without a mark on them. http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/Crank%20and%20WT_Too/ Ron From fastvee at yahoo.com Mon Jul 13 11:13:22 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Race car go bang Message-ID: <52118.18495.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ron, You had luck riding with you that day! Still is tough to lose a beautiful crank like that one. The pic makes it look like the oil hole passes very close to the fillet radius, and is that the side the crack started from? Oil pressure mystery resolved! John Fogelsville, PA --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Ron Soave wrote: A little Scotchbrite, it'll be good as new. Seriously, after 4 years, the condition of those other journals is quite an example of Redline Oil's quality. The rods were ground .010 under in 2007 (and #4 has been problematic ever since), but the mains are 4 years old and ended life at standard diameter without a mark on them. http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/Crank%20and%20WT_Too/ Ron From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jul 13 11:25:07 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:25:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] Race car go bang In-Reply-To: <52118.18495.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <52118.18495.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: JB weld to the rescue?? Damn! Lester On Jul 13, 2009, at 12:13 PM, fastvee wrote: > Ron, > You had luck riding with you that day! Still is tough to lose a > beautiful > crank like that one. The pic makes it look like the oil hole passes > very close > to the fillet radius, and is that the side the crack started from? > Oil > pressure mystery resolved! > John > Fogelsville, PA > > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Ron Soave wrote: > > A little Scotchbrite, it'll be good as > new. Seriously, after 4 years, the condition of those other journals > is quite > an example of Redline Oil's quality. The rods were ground .010 under > in 2007 > (and #4 has been problematic ever since), but the mains are 4 years > old and > ended life at standard diameter without a mark on them. > http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq317/soavero/Crank%20and%20WT_Too/ > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 13:23:05 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:23:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Astra Band Message-ID: <37dc82d40907131223y590b6624p481f3cbb23379e43@mail.gmail.com> David, Thanks for sharing. fantastic music. . sounds to me a bit like Kansas meets Steve Morris of the Dregs. (At least the numbers I listened too). He has some gear that I used to have. . Mesa stuff. . I really like his tone. My first Mesa was the Mark IIB. . then I went through a good 7 others through the years. I sold most of my gear after getting laid off. . but I still keep the best sounding tube head I have personally ever owned in my life . . as well as a '75 Strat with Lindy Fralen pickups and a '74 Les Paul (with Duncans). Thanks, Kirk From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 13:32:26 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:32:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Astra Band In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907131223y590b6624p481f3cbb23379e43@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907131223y590b6624p481f3cbb23379e43@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907131232n5bc0b703o12e5fa05e3369eff@mail.gmail.com> > I sold most of my gear after getting laid off. . but I still keep the best > sounding tube head I have personally ever owned in my life . . as well as a > '75 Strat with Lindy Fralen pickups and a '74 Les Paul (with Duncans). Then there are those of us with fretted dulcimers... From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 13 13:41:26 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:41:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Astra Band In-Reply-To: <402188520907131232n5bc0b703o12e5fa05e3369eff@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907131223y590b6624p481f3cbb23379e43@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907131232n5bc0b703o12e5fa05e3369eff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Is that treatable? ;) > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:32:26 -0500 > From: 72spridget at gmail.com > > Then there are those of us with fretted dulcimers... From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 13 14:23:22 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:23:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Astra Band In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40907131223y590b6624p481f3cbb23379e43@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907131232n5bc0b703o12e5fa05e3369eff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907131323t5ecbf14eqb860f8e09cf4f958@mail.gmail.com> >> Then there are those of us with fretted dulcimers... > Is that treatable? ;) Nope, no more treatable than the dreaded Spridget infection or the feared racing bug. From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Jul 13 16:18:07 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:18:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Astra Band In-Reply-To: <402188520907131232n5bc0b703o12e5fa05e3369eff@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907131223y590b6624p481f3cbb23379e43@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907131232n5bc0b703o12e5fa05e3369eff@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ...and WHY does that NOT surprise me???? > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:32:26 -0500 > From: 72spridget at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Astra Band > > > I sold most of my gear after getting laid off. . but I still keep the best > > sounding tube head I have personally ever owned in my life . . as well as a > > '75 Strat with Lindy Fralen pickups and a '74 Les Paul (with Duncans). > > Then there are those of us with fretted dulcimers... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Bing finds low fares by predicting when to book. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/travel/deals/airline-ticket-deals.do?form=MTRHPG&publ=WLH MTAG&crea=TXT_MTRHPG_Travel_Travel_TravelDeals_1x1 From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 13 16:41:22 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Astra Band Message-ID: <858673.44135.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Mesa stuff. . > I really like his > tone. I really wish I could read Zoom's mind right about now... LBC content - I read in R&T that Randall Smith (Mesa) vintage races a Lotus and/or an MGA, I think. Ron From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 13 18:36:03 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 17:36:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Astra Band In-Reply-To: <858673.44135.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > LBC content - I read in R&T that Randall Smith (Mesa) > vintage races a Lotus and/or an MGA, I think. Randy and I get along fine as long as we talk cars. From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 13 18:47:57 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:47:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] 72 Midget elec woes Message-ID: <4A5BD5BD.4050004@comcast.net> I am working on swapping everything from 1 Midget to another, one was built 10/71, the other 4/72 so the wire harnesses are identical. No dash in it yet but I popped the drivetrain in it yesterday and wanted to see if it ran. He did drive the rust bucket over here so I knew it ran but now the drive train is in the 71 tub with a 71 harness. I just hooked up the alternator (Lucas) and the plug fit. Hooked the tach wires together, hooked up the coil and solenoid and plugged in the wires from the key switch to the harness. Nothing else but the oil gauge is hooked up, dash board is across the garage. I turned the key and it fired right up, ignition light went out as it should and it shut off with the key as it should. 10 minutes later I hear the fuel pump ticking, the ignition light is on and the key is off. Key out, light still on, light stays on until I start it and it goes out. So where is my short that showed up after a few minutes? I unplugged each wire from the key switch, the light stayed on! I had to pull the secondary brown wire off the solenoid to kill the ign light. Even the heavy primary brown wire on the solenoid did not kill the ign light. Now none of this was going on when I was hooking up the few items to get it to fire. And did not happen for the 20 minutes I was messing with stuff starting it, turning it off, etc. I am thinking a short in the alternator? What do you guys think? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 13 20:09:48 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well Message-ID: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ed just called - said "I'm alive and well and in electronic Hell. It's late and I'll call tomorrow and talk more, but for now just know I'm in electronic Hell." He thanked everyone for their concern. That is all. Ron From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Jul 13 20:23:08 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:23:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well References: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey Ed, Does this mean I don't get Hortense?? Damn! ----- Original Message ----- Ed just called - said "I'm alive and well and in electronic Hell. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 13 21:00:34 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:00:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'm...relieved? From cbaustin at verizon.net Mon Jul 13 21:08:24 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:08:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well References: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A5C474A763D4C858B2150A4F4C0859B@universal1> "said "I'm alive and well and in electronic Hell." One view might be that, at least he's in some-kind-of hell! CB From davriker at nwi.net Mon Jul 13 21:21:29 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:21:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 72 Midget elec woes References: <4A5BD5BD.4050004@comcast.net> Message-ID: Bad diode in the Alternator. Thats my guess. David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 5:47 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 72 Midget elec woes >I am working on swapping everything from 1 Midget to another, one was > built 10/71, the other 4/72 so the wire harnesses are identical. > No dash in it yet but I popped the drivetrain in it yesterday and wanted > to see if it ran. He did drive the rust bucket over here so I knew it > ran but now the drive train is in the > 71 tub with a 71 harness. > I just hooked up the alternator (Lucas) and the plug fit. Hooked the > tach wires together, hooked up the coil and solenoid and plugged in the > wires from the key switch to the harness. Nothing else but the oil gauge > is hooked up, dash board is across the garage. > I turned the key and it fired right up, ignition light went out as it > should and it shut off with the key as it should. > 10 minutes later I hear the fuel pump ticking, the ignition light is on > and the key is off. > Key out, light still on, light stays on until I start it and it goes out. > So where is my short that showed up after a few minutes? > I unplugged each wire from the key switch, the light stayed on! I had to > pull the secondary brown wire off the solenoid to kill the ign light. > Even the heavy primary brown wire on the solenoid did not kill the ign > light. > Now none of this was going on when I was hooking up the few items to get > it to fire. And did not happen for the 20 minutes I was messing with > stuff starting it, turning it off, etc. > I am thinking a short in the alternator? > What do you guys think? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.13/2236 - Release Date: 07/13/09 17:57:00 From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jul 13 21:28:46 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:28:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn Message-ID: After getting crunched because I was neither seen nor heard, I have been thinking about getting an air horn. There are small 139 db ones for motorcycles that seem appropriate. Does anyone have thoughts good or bad about these small units? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 13 23:04:58 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:04:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <471312577.20090713220458@pacifier.com> Hello Michael, The ones listed in the Griot's catalogue are rated 139 db at 4 feet, 115 db at 6 feet, pull amps at 12 volts and come with a relay. ... NFI. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "I decide which car to purchase after looking at the pictures," said Tom autobiographically. From millerls at ado13.com Mon Jul 13 23:06:28 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 22:06:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Monterey Car Week References: <911240.84008.qm@web81007.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If anybody plans on being in Monterey the week of the historic races the following web page has a pretty good list of all the stuff going on. > > montereycarweek.com My friend Oly and I are in the races with his Byers Volvo Special. If you make it to the races stop by and say hi...... Larry Miller From wmseverin at charter.net Tue Jul 14 01:20:55 2009 From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:20:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: <4A5C474A763D4C858B2150A4F4C0859B@universal1> References: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A5C474A763D4C858B2150A4F4C0859B@universal1> Message-ID: <005401ca0453$a0ba96e0$e22fc4a0$@net> Sort of feels like "tit for tat" to me... > Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well > > "said "I'm alive and well and in electronic Hell." > > One view might be that, at least he's in some-kind-of hell! > > > > CB > _______________________________________________ From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 05:19:40 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:19:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn In-Reply-To: <471312577.20090713220458@pacifier.com> References: <471312577.20090713220458@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <402188520907140419p3f71c864if306fdddd616116e@mail.gmail.com> > The ones listed in the Griot's catalogue are rated 139 db at 4 > feet, 115 db at 6 feet, pull amps at 12 volts and come with a > relay. ... A search at HarborFreight.com on the words air horn yields a number of options including http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94117 the Wolo Bad Boy which is small and loud and easy to install and $39.99 or $49.99 for chromed. Several other options as well. David L From jdinnis at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 06:07:53 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:07:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn In-Reply-To: <402188520907140419p3f71c864if306fdddd616116e@mail.gmail.com> References: <471312577.20090713220458@pacifier.com> <402188520907140419p3f71c864if306fdddd616116e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm a big fan of the Wolo Bad Boy. They are loud and have a good tone. Some of the trumpet-type electric/air horns have a very high pitched note that does not seem to carry very well. Also the plastic trumpets don't seem to last. The set we put on my mom's car came apart after just a few years. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:19 AM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> The ones listed in the Griot's catalogue are rated 139 db at 4 >> feet, 115 db at 6 feet, pull amps at 12 volts and come with a >> relay. ... > > A search at HarborFreight.com on the words air horn yields a number of > options including > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94117 > the Wolo Bad Boy which is small and loud and easy to install and > $39.99 or $49.99 for chromed. Several other options as well. > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 14 06:13:23 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:13:23 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Electronic Hell? Shocking! > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:09:48 -0700 > > Ed just called - said "I'm alive and well and in electronic Hell. It's late and I'll call tomorrow and talk more, but for now just know I'm in electronic Hell." He thanked everyone for their concern. > > That is all. > > Ron From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 06:14:42 2009 From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:14:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Videodrome? Tron? Warehouse of NIB Lucas electrics? Anon On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Ed just called - said "I'm alive and well and in electronic Hell. From heard at datatrontech.net Tue Jul 14 07:02:15 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:02:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn In-Reply-To: References: <471312577.20090713220458@pacifier.com><402188520907140419p3f71c864if306fdddd616116e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0a2501ca0483$4fd47130$1801010a@xp> Yeah, I put a Bad Boy on my wife's Jeep. The factory horn was pathetic. The Bad Boy is probably about as good as it gets unless you want to put in a separate air tank, etc. Shop the price, though. I think I got mine at Amazon for about $30. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:08 AM To: David Lieb Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air horn I'm a big fan of the Wolo Bad Boy. They are loud and have a good tone. Some of the trumpet-type electric/air horns have a very high pitched note that does not seem to carry very well. Also the plastic trumpets don't seem to last. The set we put on my mom's car came apart after just a few years. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:19 AM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> The ones listed in the Griot's catalogue are rated 139 db at 4 >> feet, 115 db at 6 feet, pull amps at 12 volts and come with a >> relay. ... > > A search at HarborFreight.com on the words air horn yields a number of > options including > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94117 > the Wolo Bad Boy which is small and loud and easy to install and > $39.99 or $49.99 for chromed. Several other options as well. > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 08:35:38 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:35:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn In-Reply-To: <0a2501ca0483$4fd47130$1801010a@xp> References: <471312577.20090713220458@pacifier.com> <402188520907140419p3f71c864if306fdddd616116e@mail.gmail.com> <0a2501ca0483$4fd47130$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <8c1781040907140735x3626ed2djb8a7186f0762aced@mail.gmail.com> Last year I put the wolo badboy on my sprite as a temporary measure, but I think I'm going to keep it. It sounds fine, it's loud, and it doesn't take up much space. And I noticed that moss is selling them now, so they must be good. :) Trevor Jessie On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Heard wrote: > Yeah, I put a Bad Boy on my wife's Jeep. The factory horn was pathetic. > The Bad Boy is probably about as good as it gets unless you want to put in a > separate air tank, etc. Shop the price, though. I think I got mine at > Amazon for about $30. > > Heard > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:08 AM > To: David Lieb > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air horn > > I'm a big fan of the Wolo Bad Boy. They are loud and have a good tone. > Some of the trumpet-type electric/air horns have a very high pitched note > that does not seem to carry very well. Also the plastic trumpets don't seem > to last. The set we put on my mom's car came apart after just a few years. > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:19 AM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >>> The ones listed in the Griot's catalogue are rated 139 db at 4 >>> feet, 115 db at 6 feet, pull amps at 12 volts and come with a >>> relay. ... >> >> A search at HarborFreight.com on the words air horn yields a number of >> options including >> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94117 >> the Wolo Bad Boy which is small and loud and easy to install and >> $39.99 or $49.99 for chromed. Several other options as well. >> David L >> _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 09:47:43 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well Message-ID: <530057.79963.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I asked him if he meant he was inside Richard Hell, but he didn't get it(Pete G., Jim Proefrock and BZ will get that one). It was kind of mean to Richard though. --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Greg Gowins wrote: > Videodrome? Tron? Warehouse of > NIB Lucas electrics? > > Anon From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Jul 14 10:46:05 2009 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:46:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn Message-ID: Mike: What you want is the Stebel Nautilus Compact Dual-Tone 12-Volt. Cheap, reliable, louder than you can imagine. Available from various motorcycle farkel purveyors. Search the web for the best deal. JohnD Message: 14 Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:28:46 -0400 From: Michael Rowe Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn To: Spridgets Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" After getting crunched because I was neither seen nor heard, I have been thinking about getting an air horn. There are small 139 db ones for motorcycles that seem appropriate. Does anyone have thoughts good or bad about these small units? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 14 11:01:49 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:01:49 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cars for sale Message-ID: sprite for sale: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C101568/ big healey for sale: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C60498/ When you look at the shifter in the lower picture, it sort of looks like it makes more sense for a RHD car, doesn't it? NFI :) From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 11:18:19 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:18:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] cars for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907141018w19619373s37788f3e46c3fb0d@mail.gmail.com> > sprite for sale: > > http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C101568/ Ah yes, the Jonathan Whitehouse-Bird restoration. a nineteen-year labour of love. I can't imagine investing that much time and money into a project and then selling it. David L From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 14 11:31:13 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:31:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn References: Message-ID: <37EB085C33544392A92894A3B66C6764@Larry> John, if you see pictures of that one and the Bad Boy side-by-side you'll swear they are the same unit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air horn Mike: What you want is the Stebel Nautilus Compact Dual-Tone 12-Volt. Cheap, reliable, louder than you can imagine. Available from various motorcycle farkel purveyors. Search the web for the best deal. JohnD From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jul 14 11:32:55 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] cars for sale Message-ID: <282215.49949.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Maybe he is burned-out. I followed this restoration from the beginning. Doing what he did and doing it so accurately is all-consuming. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT Innocenti 950 and S Spiders 63 Pink Sprite 73 Mini Van --- On Tue, 7/14/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] cars for sale To: "Spridgets" Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 1:18 PM > sprite for sale: > > http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C101568/ Ah yes, the Jonathan Whitehouse-Bird restoration. a nineteen-year labour of love. I can't imagine investing that much time and money into a project and then selling it. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 14 12:03:25 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:03:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5CC86D.1050804@comcast.net> I have a few of the $20-$30 air horns on various Sprites. All are loud and last about 5 years or so. Plastic trumpets, small compressor, I never use a relay and they work fine. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From elwoodm at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 12:37:47 2009 From: elwoodm at gmail.com (Elwood Morgan) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:37:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 26, Issue 30 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3b8235ca0907141137qec70e82s2b12a7411558dcb6@mail.gmail.com> On my 81 Honda GL1100 Goldwing, I have a Howard's Air Horn. ( www.howardshorns.com) When I first went to look at this bike, I hit the horn button and it scared me it was so loud and this one only has one trumpet! Whenever I use it, I get immediate attention. They are expensive but then so is your car!! Mine is the Little Big Horn and as the website says, it is obnoxiously loud! Elwood in VA 78 Midget On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:00 PM, wrote: > > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:28:46 -0400 > > From: Michael Rowe > > Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn > > To: Spridgets > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > After getting crunched because I was neither seen nor heard, I have been > thinking about getting an air horn. There are small 139 db ones for > motorcycles that seem appropriate. Does anyone have thoughts good or > bad about these small units? > > > > Michael Rowe > > '74 Midget > > '60 Sprite kit > > Long Island, NY > -- "Most bad government has grown out of too much government." Thomas Jefferson "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!" Benjamin Franklin From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 13:20:57 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:20:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Randall Smith Races a 1971 Chevron Message-ID: <37dc82d40907141220u74d36a88t1e8c94f98428dc39@mail.gmail.com> I hang with Randy from time to time each year at the Vintage Wine Country Classic. As a reference book on all things Mesa Boogie, we get along great. He lets me have my Mesa gear worked on for free. . the factory is not too far from me. I can bring a Fender amp too. . but don't think I would try to bring him a Marshall! Mike Bendinelli who is tied as closely to Mesa nearly as much as Randy continues to be his top tech. They both started out together in a greyhound racing shack that they originally set up for producing the first Mark I's. He also has some very interesting stories from the late 1960's when he first started. . the bands he worked with in San Francisco run the gamut from the Dead to Randy California and Spirit. Randy races a 1971 Chevron with a Cosworth. . The car was once driven by Nikki Lauda. Randy not only wins every time he competes. . he wins by a good half lap. Once while watching him take the lead his engine guy told me that Randy will do this every time (win by a half lap) or blow the engine. . whichever comes first. Randy is one of the nicest guys you would ever want to talk too. He stopped producing the Blue Angel due to only selling 700 of that model a year. I guess that is is break point on whether he stops production on a model or not. I had a Blue Angel, great amp. . but kind of different. It allowed you to run with 6V6's, or EL84 tubes or a combination of all. To this day, Kevin Eubanks, the guy who is the guitarist for Jay Leno continues to play through a Blue Angel. He does not use Cad Cam for designing his circuits, but rather draws them out by hand in his home in Santa Barbara. I think he owns a couple or three homes. He loves to talk about new designs that he is putting together. . fascinating guy to talk too. Especially the story of Carlos Santana jumping ship from his long time Mesa Mark I to using a new Dumble that Carlos paid 16 thousand dollars for. (He bought two of them at 32k). After Randy called him - fairly long story - Carlos went back to using his Mark I along with a "Y" out to the Dumble. Carlos, who orignally coinded the term "Boogie" in relationship to one of Randy's first modified Fender Princetons has of course been a great advertisement for Mesa Engineering. . as well as current players such as John Petrucci of the G3 guitar concerts. . John plays the G3 circuit with Satriani and Steve Vai. Kirk From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 14 14:12:24 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:12:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] for those of you who couldn't get to the memorial service Message-ID: <91D60262BA1748A18FBC5C160235B532@spider> The Collectors Edition Michael Jackson 2010 calendar is destined to sell out quickly, due to limited quantities available. http://www.megacalendars.com/2010-Calendars/Celebrities/2010-Michael-Jackson -Calendar-136 From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jul 14 14:31:44 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] for those of you who couldn't get to the memorial service Message-ID: <98495.49685.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Michael Jackson died? Jay Fishbein --- On Tue, 7/14/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: From: corvallis at peoplepc.com Subject: [Spridgets] for those of you who couldn't get to the memorial service To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 4:12 PM The Collectors Edition Michael Jackson 2010 calendar is destined to sell out quickly, due to limited quantities available. http://www.megacalendars.com/2010-Calendars/Celebrities/2010-Michael-Jackson -Calendar-136 From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 14:49:19 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] for those of you who couldn't get to the memorial service In-Reply-To: <98495.49685.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <98495.49685.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <749196.60376.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Didn't he have a Midget? Or.....just hang out with one? ________________________________ From: Jay Fishbein To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:31:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] for those of you who couldn't get to the memorial service Michael Jackson died? Jay Fishbein --- On Tue, 7/14/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: From: corvallis at peoplepc.com Subject: [Spridgets] for those of you who couldn't get to the memorial service To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 4:12 PM The Collectors Edition Michael Jackson 2010 calendar is destined to sell out quickly, due to limited quantities available. http://www.megacalendars.com/2010-Calendars/Celebrities/2010-Michael-Jackson -Calendar-136 You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jul 14 15:02:50 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:02:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Randall Smith Races a 1971 Chevron Message-ID: B19, B16? Enquiring minds want to know. In a message dated 14/07/2009 20:21:57 GMT Daylight Time, khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: Randy races a 1971 Chevron with a Cosworth. From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Jul 14 15:03:24 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:03:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore References: <98495.49685.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <749196.60376.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> I hear the "Little People" object to being called "Midget"; are we now to call these cars "Little MG's"? From: Edward Perez Didn't he have a Midget? Or.....just hang out with one? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jul 14 15:05:47 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:05:47 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well Message-ID: Digital or analogue? In a message dated 14/07/2009 04:08:59 GMT Daylight Time, cbaustin at verizon.net writes: "said "I'm alive and well and in electronic Hell." From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 15:13:12 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> References: <98495.49685.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <749196.60376.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> Message-ID: <536011.19630.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> As opposed to big MGs? We have to change the lettering on our rocker panels now. We can't offend anyone with the name of our vehicle... ________________________________ From: Mark To: spridgets list Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:03:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore I hear the "Little People" object to being called "Midget"; are we now to call these cars "Little MG's"? From: Edward Perez Didn't he have a Midget? Or.....just hang out with one? You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Jul 14 15:13:58 2009 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:13:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Air horn In-Reply-To: <37EB085C33544392A92894A3B66C6764@Larry> References: <37EB085C33544392A92894A3B66C6764@Larry> Message-ID: I don't think they are, but they may be since they are close in price. I have bought and used Stebels and can vouch for them. I have also bought and tried to use a cut-off saw from Harbor Freight. I kept the horns but sold the saw to Frank. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 1:31 PM To: Deikis, John G; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air horn John, if you see pictures of that one and the Bad Boy side-by-side you'll swear they are the same unit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Air horn Mike: What you want is the Stebel Nautilus Compact Dual-Tone 12-Volt. Cheap, reliable, louder than you can imagine. Available from various motorcycle farkel purveyors. Search the web for the best deal. JohnD From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 15:16:06 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> References: <98495.49685.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <749196.60376.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> Message-ID: <689644.82166.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> See... I told you so.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-mraGRvgbQ ________________________________ From: Mark To: spridgets list Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:03:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore I hear the "Little People" object to being called "Midget"; are we now to call these cars "Little MG's"? From: Edward Perez Didn't he have a Midget? Or.....just hang out with one? You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 15:19:15 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:19:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Randall Smith Races a 1971 Chevron In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37dc82d40907141419t7eb73373w31b816753282104f@mail.gmail.com> B19 or B16? That I do not know. It is red and has Nikki Lauda still on the side - and it is fast. Not sure what power is being put out by the Cosworth. . I think I remember what his engine guy told me. . but I don't want to take a stab at it cause I might be too high. (Not that I am "high" while typing) - I mean my take at the HP would probably be too high. It appears that they are pressing all the HP they can get out of that engine. . and then it gets a rebuild during the winter in preparation for the race season to begin again the following season. Randy has deep pockets and can put as much as is needed into his car to be competitive. Randy is now in his mid 60's and is as fit as ever. I think there is another guy on this list who is into cars and builds fantastic guitar amps - who is fit and in his 60's as well? (I would go with the above guy's amps over the Mesa stuff. . from what I have heard of them on line). The class that Randy races in is one of the fastest at the event which is held at Infineon Raceway in Sonoma. . used to be called Sears Point. In another class, the V8 Cobra's also mix it up with a full on race prepped E Type Jag. Not the V12 - the larger straight 6 running Webers. Damn that Jag is FAST. . The last time I saw the Jag run with the Cobras. . the Cobras didn't stand a hair of a chance against the "Cat" in the corners. . and the "Cat" won by a nice margin. I have to say that one of the Cobra's did get ahead of the Jag and then broke down. Still, the race would have ultimatley come down to the Brit machine capturing the flag. The driver got out (I was in the paddock at the end) proclaiming how the Cobra's were not able to catch "The Cat" in the corners. On a different track with more straight time, the Cobra's might have prevailed. I love to hear the sound of that straight 6 Jag wailing down the back straight. . absolute music to my ears. Kirk On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:02 PM, wrote: > B19, B16? Enquiring minds want to know. > > In a message dated 14/07/2009 20:21:57 GMT Daylight Time, > khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: > > Randy races a 1971 Chevron with a Cosworth. From 72spridget at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 15:20:51 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:20:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Randall Smith Races a 1971 Chevron In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907141420q4f8ba01dk3c2610d8cbe1a4cb@mail.gmail.com> > B19, B16? Enquiring minds want to know. I have a couple of B17 saddles on my bicycles, does that count? David L From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 15:25:02 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:25:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Satriani, Vai, Petrucci Message-ID: <37dc82d40907141425j767ea843tf9a70292640adb09@mail.gmail.com> I am fascinated by these guys due to the level of proficiency that they have developed. . however, at times it sounds more like a pure physical excercise in guitar prowess. Not to say I do not respect what they do. . and would love to have some of the ability that they have. Just my take! Kirk From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jul 14 15:30:31 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Message-ID: <572393.24857.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> While you're at it, work on getting rid of the terms "square body" and "box Sprite". Jay Fishbein 63 Pink Sprite --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Edward Perez wrote: From: Edward Perez Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore To: "Mark" Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 5:13 PM As opposed to big MGs? From bighealey at charter.net Tue Jul 14 15:59:01 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:59:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <572393.24857.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090714175901.3LXYE.1804259.root@mp17> Let's do away with the Term Sprite. Sound's like pink fairy tale crap. And Spridget, out it goes because it sounds like a plumbing fitting. ---- Jay Fishbein wrote: > While you're at it, work on getting rid of the terms "square body" and "box Sprite". > > Jay Fishbein > 63 Pink Sprite > > --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Edward Perez wrote: > > From: Edward Perez > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > To: "Mark" > Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 5:13 PM > > As opposed to big MGs? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jul 14 16:06:31 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:06:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Randall Smith Races a 1971 Chevron In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907141419t7eb73373w31b816753282104f@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907141419t7eb73373w31b816753282104f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <27B9EB1A-86C5-4F42-AB7B-D737FFD9DB55@snet.net> Doubt it. "Nikki" spells his name Niki. Jaay Fishbein On Jul 14, 2009, at 5:19 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > It is red and has Nikki Lauda still on the side - From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jul 14 16:08:48 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:08:48 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Randall Smith Races a 1971 Chevron Message-ID: The B19 is one of my all time favourite racing cars and once I year I get to scrutineer a few when the Classic Endurance Racing (CER) series comes to Silverstone. I guess when you say the engine is a Cosworth you mean a Cosworth DFV. B19s came when a bunch of other engines including Cosworth BD series which I think was more likely to be fitted in a B19. I'm not much of an expert on this era of Sports Racing Cars and at the CER meeting there is a diverse mix of cars with a lot of Lolas (some T70s) as well Chevrons and some cars do have DFVs. Other cars have BMW engines (not sure which) as well as american V8s (a Corvette) etc. It's late so no time now to google CER but they do have a website along with the big brother LeMans Series (LMES). I might have a spare ticket if anyone wants it for this years meeting. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 - an MSA licensed technical official In a message dated 14/07/2009 22:42:01 GMT Daylight Time, tr3.4.me at gmail.com writes: I wouldn't know, but a quick check of Google images turned up this link - check the very first listing. http://trackthoughts.com/?p=82 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:02 PM, wrote: > B19, B16? Enquiring minds want to know. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Jul 14 16:09:12 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:09:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <20090714175901.3LXYE.1804259.root@mp17> References: <572393.24857.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20090714175901.3LXYE.1804259.root@mp17> Message-ID: Figures that would come from someone with a address like "bighealey" Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:59 PM, wrote: > Let's do away with the Term Sprite. Sound's like pink fairy tale crap. > > And Spridget, out it goes because it sounds like a plumbing fitting. > > ---- Jay Fishbein wrote: > > While you're at it, work on getting rid of the terms "square body" and > "box Sprite". > > > > Jay Fishbein > > 63 Pink Sprite From bighealey at charter.net Tue Jul 14 16:16:35 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:16:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090714181635.5D1V0.1805296.root@mp17> Mike now - now. >From your email address you look to be a dyslexic extreme re-engineer. Did'nt get the engineering right the first time eh? Tough when you read back to front (maybe that should be rear engineer). ROFL ---- "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" wrote: > Figures that would come from someone with a address like "bighealey" > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:59 PM, wrote: > > > Let's do away with the Term Sprite. Sound's like pink fairy tale crap. > > > > And Spridget, out it goes because it sounds like a plumbing fitting. > > > > ---- Jay Fishbein wrote: > > > While you're at it, work on getting rid of the terms "square body" and > > "box Sprite". > > > > > > Jay Fishbein > > > 63 Pink Sprite From kk7ss at verizon.net Tue Jul 14 16:33:41 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:33:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] for those of you who couldn't get to the memorial service In-Reply-To: <98495.49685.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <98495.49685.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A5CA555.12634.705929@kk7ss.verizon.net> Michael *who* ???? On 14 Jul 2009 at 13:31, Jay Fishbein wrote: >> Michael Jackson died? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From kk7ss at verizon.net Tue Jul 14 16:35:53 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:35:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> References: <98495.49685.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>, <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> Message-ID: <4A5CA5D9.27088.725C92@kk7ss.verizon.net> PC would be "Size Challenged" MG's And it's got nothing to do with the water being cold !! On 14 Jul 2009 at 16:03, Mark wrote: >> I hear the "Little People" object to being called "Midget"; are we now >> to call these cars "Little MG's"? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 16:49:06 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:49:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <20090714175901.3LXYE.1804259.root@mp17> References: <572393.24857.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <20090714175901.3LXYE.1804259.root@mp17> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907141549w5be8cf5cia8594ace197030dc@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:59 PM, wrote: > > > And Spridget, out it goes because it sounds like a plumbing fitting. Geez!! That explains all the strange emails I keep getting! I thought this was a discussion forum for plumbers!! Cheers!! Jim From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 14 17:06:42 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:06:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Randall Smith Races a 1971 Chevron In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DCA1D68B89447A88557B9F83F8308B5@spider> Here is a manual some oldies might enjoy. ...bill Coventry Climax engine manual FWA, FWB, FWE: http://www.97330.com/CoventryClimax_FwaFwbFwe/index.html =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:09 PM To: tr3.4.me at gmail.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Randall Smith Races a 1971 Chevron The B19 is one of my all time favorite racing cars and once I year I get to scrutinizer a few when the Classic Endurance Racing (CER) series comes to Silverstone. I guess when you say the engine is a Cosworth you mean a Cosworth DFV. B19s came when a bunch of other engines including Cosworth BD series which I think was more likely to be fitted in a B19. I'm not much of an expert on this era of Sports Racing Cars and at the CER meeting there is a diverse mix of cars with a lot of Lolas (some T70s) as well Chevrons and some cars do have DFVs. Other cars have BMW engines (not sure which) as well as American V8s (a Corvette) etc. It's late so no time now to Google CER but they do have a website along with the big brother LeMans Series (LMES). I might have a spare ticket if anyone wants it for this years meeting. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 - an MSA licensed technical official From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 14 18:16:17 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:16:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore References: <20090714181635.5D1V0.1805296.root@mp17> Message-ID: Jeez, bighealey, whomever in the hell you really are, I don't think Mike deserved such a personal attack as you made. Bad day? Or are you normally like that? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Mike now - now. >From your email address you look to be a dyslexic extreme re-engineer. Did'nt get the engineering right the first time eh? Tough when you read back to front (maybe that should be rear engineer). ROFL ---- "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" wrote: > Figures that would come from someone with a address like "bighealey" > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:59 PM, wrote: > > > Let's do away with the Term Sprite. Sound's like pink fairy tale crap. > > > > And Spridget, out it goes because it sounds like a plumbing fitting. > > > > ---- Jay Fishbein wrote: > > > While you're at it, work on getting rid of the terms "square body" and > > "box Sprite". > > > > > > Jay Fishbein > > > 63 Pink Sprite You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 18:27:12 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:27:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] PC speed test site. Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907141727m606609e7m6ea61b770ea23674@mail.gmail.com> speedtest.net From dwramsey at att.net Tue Jul 14 18:48:04 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:48:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: <316980.17816.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090715004816.D2ED218765D@autox.team.net> Ed Who, I didn't know he was missing? Crash Ed just called - said "I'm alive and well and in electronic Hell. It's late and I'll call tomorrow and talk more, but for now just know I'm in electronic Hell." He thanked everyone for their concern. That is all. Ron From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Tue Jul 14 18:55:31 2009 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:55:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] for those of you who couldn't get to the memorial service Message-ID: <200907150055.n6F0td8I023369@mail.usimperio.com> Maybe we will get another day off.......... At 04:12 PM 7/14/2009, you wrote: >The Collectors Edition Michael >83&gId=5250147&link_idno=5594013> Jackson 2010 calendar is destined to sell >out quickly, due to limited quantities available. > > > >http://www.megacalendars.com/2010-Calendars/Celebrities/2010-Michael-Jackson >-Calendar-136 >_ From pilotrob at msn.com Tue Jul 14 19:24:52 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 01:24:52 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] J&C Electronics Pvt.Ltd Message-ID: "Jobs for the discriminating" (Complete with all typing, grammatical errors, etc.:) --------------------------------------------- Good day, We are glad to offer you a job position in our company {J&C Electronics Pvt.Ltd] As part of our Multi Level Marketing Network, we seek capable individuals to work for us as our International representative In Arab such as KUWAIT,UAE,QATAR AND SO ON. Due to my very busy work schedule, I require assistance on some very important personal issues. I'm looking for a professional personal assistant thats So If you are intersted back to me with the application bellow : APPLICATION First name : Last name : Full Address : City : State : Country : Zip Code : Tel numbers : Age : Occupation : Email : From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 14 19:48:00 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:48:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget, uh little MG elec woes found Message-ID: <4A5D3550.6070503@comcast.net> I found the problem on the 72 Sprite look a like MG, The wire to power the fuse for the horn at the fuse box was the problem, not the alternator. I did not dig into it yet but now I know where the short or power feed was. I am guessing the fuse box terminals are touching under or that pair of contacts are shorted out somehow. The brown feed and white feed wires are next to each other on the fuse box. A short there would power the ignition. Too late to tear it apart tonight but I'm sure it's a simple fix. Thanks Kevin for pointing me in the fuse box direction. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jul 14 20:07:05 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:07:05 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Coventy Climax Manual Message-ID: How very cool! :) Notice the difference in valve timing between the largest and the two smaller capacity motors. Interesting. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 14 20:07:32 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:07:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] PC speed test site. In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907141727m606609e7m6ea61b770ea23674@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10907141727m606609e7m6ea61b770ea23674@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A good test site, but be extra careful what you click on. Stay away from the registry cleaner big green buttons near the top and other related ilk. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:27 PM To: Wedge List; Spridgeteers; Sprite Yahoo; Midget/Sprite; Triumph List Subject: [Spridgets] PC speed test site. speedtest.net From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 20:33:35 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:33:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Randall Smith Races a 1971 Chevron Message-ID: <146539.98906.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Peter Egan mention : http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=26&article_id=3720&page_nu mber=1 --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > As a reference book on all things Mesa Boogie, we get along > great. From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Jul 14 20:59:10 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:59:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] cars for sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:01 AM, wrote: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C60498/ When you look at the shifter in the lower picture, it sort of looks like it makes more sense for a RHD car, doesn't it? The early heavies had what they referred to as a "sideshift" tranny. I had to rebuild the one in my BN4L factory rally car. Heavy damn tranny!!! Wish I still had that car... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 15 07:35:16 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:35:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Larry, Apologies all around. Oops now where did I leave that little car? BTW Larry I am nobody really, just another car nut. Perhaps I owe Mike a beer......... Tracy -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:16 PM To: bighealey at charter.net; rrengineer @dslextreme.com Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Jeez, bighealey, whomever in the hell you really are, I don't think Mike deserved such a personal attack as you made. Bad day? Or are you normally like that? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Mike now - now. >From your email address you look to be a dyslexic extreme re-engineer. Did'nt get the engineering right the first time eh? Tough when you read back to front (maybe that should be rear engineer). ROFL ---- "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" wrote: > Figures that would come from someone with a address like "bighealey" > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:59 PM, wrote: > > > Let's do away with the Term Sprite. Sound's like pink fairy tale crap. > > > > And Spridget, out it goes because it sounds like a plumbing fitting. > > > > ---- Jay Fishbein wrote: > > > While you're at it, work on getting rid of the terms "square body" and > > "box Sprite". > > > > > > Jay Fishbein > > > 63 Pink Sprite You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 15 08:03:51 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:03:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <402188520907150654j36d9424foba14326b9eec8ee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <472BC7F8A6D94737A5D6951172FD51CB@TRACY> Dave, Never heard them called SpitFidget Hehehehehe when restoring I called it many names but not SpitFidget It amazes me how little power comes out of that 1500. It does however have some pretty impressive battering rams installed though. Pretty safe at 5 MPH. I drove a few Bugeyes recently, one with a 948 and Debra's with the beefed up 1275 we built to replace the roll over from the 2007 Alpine 500. A Bugeye on the list of must have cars. But I refuse to change my email to " littlesprite " Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:72spridget at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:54 AM To: Tracy Drummond Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > BTW Larry I am nobody really, just another car nut. Perhaps I owe Mike a > beer......... Tracy, You neglected to point out that, despite the email address, you have a rubber-bumper SpitFidget. David L From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 15 08:06:41 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:06:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: One more thing I refuse to change my email address to littlesprite even though I own one. I dare anybody to use that address :-) (big wry grin) Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Drummond Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 6:35 AM To: 'Larry Daniels'; 'rrengineer at dslextreme.com' Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Larry, Apologies all around. Oops now where did I leave that little car? BTW Larry I am nobody really, just another car nut. Perhaps I owe Mike a beer......... Tracy -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:16 PM To: bighealey at charter.net; rrengineer @dslextreme.com Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Jeez, bighealey, whomever in the hell you really are, I don't think Mike deserved such a personal attack as you made. Bad day? Or are you normally like that? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Mike now - now. >From your email address you look to be a dyslexic extreme re-engineer. Did'nt get the engineering right the first time eh? Tough when you read back to front (maybe that should be rear engineer). ROFL ---- "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" wrote: > Figures that would come from someone with a address like "bighealey" > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:59 PM, wrote: > > > Let's do away with the Term Sprite. Sound's like pink fairy tale crap. > > > > And Spridget, out it goes because it sounds like a plumbing fitting. > > > > ---- Jay Fishbein wrote: > > > While you're at it, work on getting rid of the terms "square body" and > > "box Sprite". > > > > > > Jay Fishbein > > > 63 Pink Sprite You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 08:21:30 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:21:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907150721w21612431v3692b1043b346398@mail.gmail.com> > I refuse to change my email address to littlesprite even though I own one. But that would be redundant! OTOH, it would probably be available from all your email suppliers... A friend of mine uses the email address of "uglyoldwitch at whatever simply because she has never had it come up as already taken ;-) I have the email address of rmidget at whatever because I had a red Midget at the time. There is a lady in TN named Robin Midget (what will she ever do?) with the same isp and her email address is rrmidget. I keep getting emails from her church group. David L From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 08:28:57 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <402188520907150721w21612431v3692b1043b346398@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <604050.67957.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 7/15/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > address to littlesprite even though I own one. I recently had the opportunity to buy a 1275 bored out to 1420cc. I was thinking my address could be bigmidget at oxymoron.com (If anyone might be interested, let me know and I'll put you in touch with the owner - it's a fresh zero-hour motor; can be had cheap). Ron From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 15 09:28:45 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:28:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net> Thesaurus.com offers the following, possibly more PC, alternatives to "Midget." Lilliputian, bantam, gnome, homuncule, homunculus, little person, manikin, midge, pygmy, runt, baby, diminutive, knee-high, miniature, minikin, pocket, teensy, teeny, tiny I kinda like the idea of driving a "Pocket MG." Maybe BL stands for British-Lilliputian. Does MG mean Manikin Gnome? From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 10:33:31 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:33:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net> References: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <419669.76865.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I like Bantam... sounds cool! I wonder if I can find the chrome letters.... Homunculus is cool too, but my rocker panels aren't that long.... ________________________________ From: Lee Fox To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:28:45 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Thesaurus.com offers the following, possibly more PC, alternatives to "Midget." Lilliputian, bantam, gnome, homuncule, homunculus, little person, manikin, midge, pygmy, runt, baby, diminutive, knee-high, miniature, minikin, pocket, teensy, teeny, tiny I kinda like the idea of driving a "Pocket MG." Maybe BL stands for British-Lilliputian. Does MG mean Manikin Gnome? You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Jul 15 10:54:01 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:54:01 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <419669.76865.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1037594184.1894471247676841197.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> pepboys near me has midget esq letters for sale some are actually "diamond" studded for those with a real desire for glamor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "Lee Fox" , spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:33:31 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore I like Bantam... sounds cool! B I wonder if I can find the chrome letters.... B Homunculus is cool too, but my rocker panels aren't that long.... ________________________________ From: Lee Fox To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:28:45 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Thesaurus.com offers the following, possibly more PC, alternatives to "Midget." Lilliputian, bantam, gnome, homuncule, homunculus, little person, manikin, midge, pygmy, runt, B baby, diminutive, knee-high, miniature, minikin, pocket, teensy, teeny, tiny I kinda like the idea of driving a "Pocket MG." Maybe BL stands for British-Lilliputian. Does MG mean Manikin Gnome? You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mikey at b2systems.com Wed Jul 15 11:16:49 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:16:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <419669.76865.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net> <419669.76865.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1247678209.3776.30.camel@WebBrowser> Geez, don't you know anything about cars ? (said with a HUGE SMILE ) :) :) :) Of course you can find Bantam chrome letters, if you just look for Singer Bantam's... You could even find a Bantam hood ornament if you wanted :) Its just a big coc...uhm rooster, its what every one needs on their hood. mike On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:33 -0700, Edward Perez wrote: > I like Bantam... sounds cool! I wonder if I can find the chrome letters.... Homunculus is cool too, but my rocker panels aren't that long.... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lee Fox > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:28:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > > Thesaurus.com offers the following, possibly more PC, alternatives to "Midget." > > Lilliputian, bantam, gnome, homuncule, homunculus, little person, manikin, midge, pygmy, runt, baby, diminutive, knee-high, miniature, minikin, pocket, teensy, teeny, tiny > > I kinda like the idea of driving a "Pocket MG." > > Maybe BL stands for British-Lilliputian. > > Does MG mean Manikin Gnome? > You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Jul 15 11:55:19 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:55:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine Message-ID: <7F8D19C542A843D28389628997FEDB56@AndrewHP> Ok, this has been addressed many times, but also for many reasons. I am pulling the engine and transmission this weekend to get ready to roll the car on its side for new floors and sills. I have already pulled the hood and the radiator (anyone got a spare radiator for a 76?) and wanted to confirm that I should pull engine first then gearbox, rather than as one unit. I ask again because there always seems to be a caveat in the other answers, where as I am stripping the car. Thanks, Drew From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jul 15 11:58:11 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Message-ID: <736471.22453.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> There was also the Austin Bantam, made right here in the states in Butler, PA. Jay Fishbein Innocentiville, USA --- On Wed, 7/15/09, mike rambour wrote: From: mike rambour Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 1:16 PM Geez, don't you know anything about cars ? (said with a HUGE SMILE ) :) :) :) Of course you can find Bantam chrome letters, if you just look for Singer Bantam's... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 15 12:13:12 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:13:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore References: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net><419669.76865.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1247678209.3776.30.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <7FF6ADAE41934586AC11DEAA6C1BC967@Larry> Or, there was the earlier American Bantam -- also called the Austin Bantam. This, at least, had actual ties to what later became MG. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike rambour" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Geez, don't you know anything about cars ? (said with a HUGE SMILE ) :) :) :) Of course you can find Bantam chrome letters, if you just look for Singer Bantam's... You could even find a Bantam hood ornament if you wanted :) Its just a big coc...uhm rooster, its what every one needs on their hood. mike On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:33 -0700, Edward Perez wrote: > I like Bantam... sounds cool! I wonder if I can find the chrome > letters.... Homunculus is cool too, but my rocker panels aren't that > long.... From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 15 12:16:30 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:16:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine In-Reply-To: <7F8D19C542A843D28389628997FEDB56@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <20090715141630.C4RL7.1856082.root@mp06> Drew, I have a 76 radiator. I cleaned and painted then found it leaked. It needs recored. I saved it cause it is in good shape just needs a rad shop to rebuild it. Yours free for shipping price. ---- Andrew Payne wrote: > Ok, this has been addressed many times, but also for many reasons. I am > pulling the engine and transmission this weekend to get ready to roll the > car on its side for new floors and sills. I have already pulled the hood > and the radiator (anyone got a spare radiator for a 76?) and wanted to > confirm that I should pull engine first then gearbox, rather than as one > unit. I ask again because there always seems to be a caveat in the other > answers, where as I am stripping the car. > > > > Thanks, > > Drew > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 12:24:24 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <1247678209.3776.30.camel@WebBrowser> References: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net> <419669.76865.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1247678209.3776.30.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <384213.92848.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I guess I have to take the Mack Truck bull dog off and put the ....um...rooster on and get the bling letters.....very cool! Don't want to piss off any midgets.....er....uh.....bantams. ________________________________ From: mike rambour To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:16:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Geez, don't you know anything about cars ? (said with a HUGE SMILE ) :) :) :) Of course you can find Bantam chrome letters, if you just look for Singer Bantam's... You could even find a Bantam hood ornament if you wanted :) Its just a big coc...uhm rooster, its what every one needs on their hood. mike On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:33 -0700, Edward Perez wrote: > I like Bantam... sounds cool! I wonder if I can find the chrome letters.... Homunculus is cool too, but my rocker panels aren't that long.... > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lee Fox > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:28:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > > Thesaurus.com offers the following, possibly more PC, alternatives to "Midget." > > Lilliputian, bantam, gnome, homuncule, homunculus, little person, manikin, midge, pygmy, runt, baby, diminutive, knee-high, miniature, minikin, pocket, teensy, teeny, tiny > > I kinda like the idea of driving a "Pocket MG." > > Maybe BL stands for British-Lilliputian. > > Does MG mean Manikin Gnome? > You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 12:31:56 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:31:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine In-Reply-To: <7F8D19C542A843D28389628997FEDB56@AndrewHP> References: <7F8D19C542A843D28389628997FEDB56@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <402188520907151131u4eb2fdb0xf8e5325aef9edceb@mail.gmail.com> Drew, If you need to pull both of them, by all means yank them together. It is a pain to get just the trans out. The place we all disagree is whether you should leave the trans in place when all you really want out is the engine. I do happen to have a radiator here for a 1500, I just doubt that it is any good. If you want it as a spare/core, it is all yours. David L On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > Ok, this has been addressed many times, but also for many reasons. I am > pulling the engine and transmission this weekend to get ready to roll the > car on its side for new floors and sills. I have already pulled the hood > and the radiator (anyone got a spare radiator for a 76?) and wanted to > confirm that I should pull engine first then gearbox, rather than as one > unit. I ask again because there always seems to be a caveat in the other > answers, where as I am stripping the car. > > > > Thanks, > > Drew > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 72spridget at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 15 12:54:17 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:54:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5E25D9.1040006@sbcglobal.net> Pull them together as one unit. Much easier. Be sure to drain the fluids out of both first. > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:55:19 -0400 > From: "Andrew Payne" > Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine > To: > Message-ID: <7F8D19C542A843D28389628997FEDB56 at AndrewHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ok, this has been addressed many times, but also for many reasons. I am > pulling the engine and transmission this weekend to get ready to roll the > car on its side for new floors and sills. I have already pulled the hood > and the radiator (anyone got a spare radiator for a 76?) and wanted to > confirm that I should pull engine first then gearbox, rather than as one > unit. I ask again because there always seems to be a caveat in the other > answers, where as I am stripping the car. > > > > Thanks, > > Drew > > > ------------------------------ From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Jul 15 13:10:55 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:10:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine In-Reply-To: <7F8D19C542A843D28389628997FEDB56@AndrewHP> References: <7F8D19C542A843D28389628997FEDB56@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <7780B2E03002422BBEEC667D73A0CEDA@AndrewHP> Well folks, Thanks for the feed back. I sounds like if you want 'em both out, yank 'em both out. Glad I asked. Cheers, Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Payne Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:55 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine Ok, this has been addressed many times, but also for many reasons. I am pulling the engine and transmission this weekend to get ready to roll the car on its side for new floors and sills. I have already pulled the hood and the radiator (anyone got a spare radiator for a 76?) and wanted to confirm that I should pull engine first then gearbox, rather than as one unit. I ask again because there always seems to be a caveat in the other answers, where as I am stripping the car. Thanks, Drew You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 15 13:36:26 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:36:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Digital or analogue? Digital, but he's using aftermarket converters. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 15 13:38:26 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:38:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> Message-ID: > I hear the "Little People" object to being called "Midget" That's because they're dwarfs. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 15 15:48:51 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:48:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: References: <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> Message-ID: <200907151248240.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 12:38 PM 7/15/2009, Billy Zoom wrote: > > I hear the "Little People" object to being called "Midget" >That's because they're dwarfs. You mean small minded.... From dwgwater at hotmail.com Wed Jul 15 13:55:43 2009 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:55:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <402188520907150721w21612431v3692b1043b346398@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907150721w21612431v3692b1043b346398@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This is Snivelling Little Rat-Faced Git. And this is his wife Dreary Fat Boring Old Git. Mr Git: I was just telling your husband what an awful bore it is having a surname like Git. Mrs Stokes: OH Oh well, it's not that bad. Mr Git: Oh, you've no idea how the kids get taunted. Why, only last week Dirty Lying Little Two-Faced came running home from school, sobbing his eyes out, and our youngest, Ghastly Spotty Horrible Vicious Little is just at the age when taunts like 'she's a git' really hurt > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:21:30 -0500 > From: 72spridget at gmail.com > To: bighealey at charter.net; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > > > I refuse to change my email address to littlesprite even though I own one. > > But that would be redundant! > OTOH, it would probably be available from all your email suppliers... > A friend of mine uses the email address of "uglyoldwitch at whatever > simply because she has never had it come up as already taken ;-) > I have the email address of rmidget at whatever because I had a red > Midget at the time. There is a lady in TN named Robin Midget (what > will she ever do?) with the same isp and her email address is > rrmidget. I keep getting emails from her church group. > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail.. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutoria l_QuickAdd_062009 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 14:00:30 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:00:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <200907151248240.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> <200907151248240.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907151300u20f617bq6900d15f6b8585ed@mail.gmail.com> I'm partial to *runt* myself. Preferably in conjunction with adjectives such as; Freakin', Goddam, sawed-off, under-fed, genetic freak, cheesehead....etc. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 12:38 PM 7/15/2009, Billy Zoom wrote: > >> > I hear the "Little People" object to being called "Midget" >> That's because they're dwarfs. >> > > You mean small minded.... _______________________________________________ From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 14:11:17 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:11:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> I had no idea Ed was a Proctologist. (digital and all) Wow, if I'd have known that I would never of spoken to him the way I did! Sorry Ed. ;-) Herb From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 15 14:22:58 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:22:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore References: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net><419669.76865.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1247678209.3776.30.camel@WebBrowser> <384213.92848.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54DAFC6EF5774E55B706ABEC7314FE7C@psych.washington.edu> Hey Ed Go for a rubber chicken, not the rooster. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "mike rambour" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore >I guess I have to take the Mack Truck bull dog off and put the >....um...rooster on and get the bling letters.....very cool! Don't want to >piss off any midgets.....er....uh.....bantams. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike rambour > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:16:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > > Geez, don't you know anything about cars ? (said with a HUGE > SMILE ) :) :) :) > > Of course you can find Bantam chrome letters, if you just look for > Singer Bantam's... > > You could even find a Bantam hood ornament if you wanted :) Its just a > big coc...uhm rooster, its what every one needs on their hood. > > mike > > On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:33 -0700, Edward Perez wrote: >> I like Bantam... sounds cool! I wonder if I can find the chrome >> letters.... Homunculus is cool too, but my rocker panels aren't that >> long.... >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Lee Fox >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:28:45 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore >> >> Thesaurus.com offers the following, possibly more PC, alternatives to >> "Midget." >> >> Lilliputian, bantam, gnome, homuncule, homunculus, little person, >> manikin, midge, pygmy, runt, baby, diminutive, knee-high, miniature, >> minikin, pocket, teensy, teeny, tiny >> >> I kinda like the idea of driving a "Pocket MG." >> >> Maybe BL stands for British-Lilliputian. >> >> Does MG mean Manikin Gnome? >> You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 14:30:17 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:30:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <54DAFC6EF5774E55B706ABEC7314FE7C@psych.washington.edu> References: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net><419669.76865.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1247678209.3776.30.camel@WebBrowser> <384213.92848.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <54DAFC6EF5774E55B706ABEC7314FE7C@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <749407.50341.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> naw, the rubber one would just flail in the wind... gotta have aerodynamics.... wait, roosters can't fly.... ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: Edward Perez ; mike rambour ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:22:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore Hey Ed Go for a rubber chicken, not the rooster. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "mike rambour" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore >I guess I have to take the Mack Truck bull dog off and put the >....um...rooster on and get the bling letters.....very cool! Don't want to >piss off any midgets.....er....uh.....bantams. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: mike rambour > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:16:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > > Geez, don't you know anything about cars ? (said with a HUGE > SMILE ) :) :) :) > > Of course you can find Bantam chrome letters, if you just look for > Singer Bantam's... > > You could even find a Bantam hood ornament if you wanted :) Its just a > big coc...uhm rooster, its what every one needs on their hood. > > mike > > On Wed, 2009-07-15 at 09:33 -0700, Edward Perez wrote: >> I like Bantam... sounds cool! I wonder if I can find the chrome >> letters.... Homunculus is cool too, but my rocker panels aren't that >> long.... >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Lee Fox >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:28:45 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore >> >> Thesaurus.com offers the following, possibly more PC, alternatives to >> "Midget." >> >> Lilliputian, bantam, gnome, homuncule, homunculus, little person, >> manikin, midge, pygmy, runt, baby, diminutive, knee-high, miniature, >> minikin, pocket, teensy, teeny, tiny >> >> I kinda like the idea of driving a "Pocket MG." >> >> Maybe BL stands for British-Lilliputian. >> >> Does MG mean Manikin Gnome? >> You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as mikey at b2systems.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jul 15 14:42:44 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:42:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> References: , , <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A5DDCD4.23134.16EA52B@kk7ss.verizon.net> You'll hear about it in the end...... On 15 Jul 2009 at 13:11, WFO Herb wrote: >> Wow, if I'd have known that I would never of spoken to him the way I >> did! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 14:43:15 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:43:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907151343g3c3ce8d9k8870d0040ac24cb7@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > I had no idea Ed was a Proctologist. (digital and all) > > Wow, if I'd have known that I would never of spoken to him the way I did! > More to the point, when meeting him in person would you still shake his hand? From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jul 15 14:43:46 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:43:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net> References: , <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A5DDD12.9262.16F97D3@kk7ss.verizon.net> I wanted to call mine the "Pocket Rocket"... but that's already taken by the Gremlin X.... ;-( On 15 Jul 2009 at 10:28, Lee Fox wrote: >> I kinda like the idea of driving a "Pocket MG." -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 15 15:04:11 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:04:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine In-Reply-To: <402188520907151131u4eb2fdb0xf8e5325aef9edceb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090715170411.DHE0R.1878169.root@mp07> A note on radiators for the 1500 little cars The aftermarket ones are hard to get (no clearance). Better to rebuild an original. ---- David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > Drew, > If you need to pull both of them, by all means yank them together. It > is a pain to get just the trans out. The place we all disagree is > whether you should leave the trans in place when all you really want > out is the engine. > > I do happen to have a radiator here for a 1500, I just doubt that it > is any good. If you want it as a spare/core, it is all yours. > David L > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > > Ok, this has been addressed many times, but also for many reasons. I am > > pulling the engine and transmission this weekend to get ready to roll the > > car on its side for new floors and sills. I have already pulled the hood > > and the radiator (anyone got a spare radiator for a 76?) and wanted to > > confirm that I should pull engine first then gearbox, rather than as one > > unit. I ask again because there always seems to be a caveat in the other > > answers, where as I am stripping the car. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Drew > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as 72spridget at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 15 15:21:09 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:21:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well References: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0907151343g3c3ce8d9k8870d0040ac24cb7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Foster" To: "Spridget list" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 3:11 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > I had no idea Ed was a Proctologist. (digital and all) > > Wow, if I'd have known that I would never of spoken to him the way I did! > More to the point, when meeting him in person would you still shake his hand? _______________________________________________ At least then he won't have both hands on the back of your shoulders. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 15 15:57:04 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:57:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore References: <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT><200907151248240.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <43840a7e0907151300u20f617bq6900d15f6b8585ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6B000B715898429E9AC31964CB7ED9C1@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "spridgets list" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore I'm partial to *runt* myself. Preferably in conjunction with adjectives such as; Freakin', Goddam, sawed-off, under-fed, genetic freak, cheesehead....etc. =============== Hey, hey, HEY! Watch that lumping "cheesehead" in with those other degenerates. We deserve our own classification. From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 15 15:58:07 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:58:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine In-Reply-To: <20090715170411.DHE0R.1878169.root@mp07> Message-ID: <20090715175807.KXMRR.1881680.root@mp07> I mean hard to install do to lack of clearance. ---- bighealey at charter.net wrote: > A note on radiators for the 1500 little cars > > The aftermarket ones are hard to get (no clearance). > > Better to rebuild an original. > > ---- David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Drew, > > If you need to pull both of them, by all means yank them together. It > > is a pain to get just the trans out. The place we all disagree is > > whether you should leave the trans in place when all you really want > > out is the engine. > > > > I do happen to have a radiator here for a 1500, I just doubt that it > > is any good. If you want it as a spare/core, it is all yours. > > David L > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > > > Ok, this has been addressed many times, but also for many reasons. I am > > > pulling the engine and transmission this weekend to get ready to roll the > > > car on its side for new floors and sills. I have already pulled the hood > > > and the radiator (anyone got a spare radiator for a 76?) and wanted to > > > confirm that I should pull engine first then gearbox, rather than as one > > > unit. I ask again because there always seems to be a caveat in the other > > > answers, where as I am stripping the car. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Drew > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > You are subscribed as 72spridget at gmail.com > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 16:47:41 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:47:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <6B000B715898429E9AC31964CB7ED9C1@Larry> References: <9825F91388AD4AF0A2AA0B7390EF946F@CT> <200907151248240.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <43840a7e0907151300u20f617bq6900d15f6b8585ed@mail.gmail.com> <6B000B715898429E9AC31964CB7ED9C1@Larry> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907151547l45be6904qebc9ebde1764f50@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Johnson" > Cc: "spridgets list" > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > > > I'm partial to *runt* myself. Preferably in conjunction with adjectives such > as; Freakin', Goddam, sawed-off, under-fed, genetic freak, > cheesehead....etc. > > =============== > > Hey, hey, HEY! Watch that lumping "cheesehead" in with those other > degenerates. > > We deserve our own classification. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tr3.4.me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > NO KIDDING!!! You're risking tickin' off a bunch of us sawed-off runts lumping those cheeseheads in with us! And you don't ... Aw, CRAP! Now see what you done gone and made me do Jim??? Now I've just offended all those friendly (and the two not so friendly) sawed-off cheesehead runts working in Baraboo! http://circusworld.wisconsinhistory.org/ From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 15 17:07:55 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:07:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0907151547l45be6904qebc9ebde1764f50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090715190755.QOE13.1885283.root@mp07> http://www.houseofdeception.com/pages/Midget%20Wrestler%20Cowboy%20Bradley.html ---- Jeff Foster wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Larry Daniels > wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Johnson" > > Cc: "spridgets list" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 3:00 PM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > > > > > > I'm partial to *runt* myself. Preferably in conjunction with adjectives > such > > as; Freakin', Goddam, sawed-off, under-fed, genetic freak, > > cheesehead....etc. > > > > =============== > > > > Hey, hey, HEY! Watch that lumping "cheesehead" in with those other > > degenerates. > > > > We deserve our own classification. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tr3.4.me at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > NO KIDDING!!! > > You're risking tickin' off a bunch of us sawed-off runts lumping those > cheeseheads in with us! > > And you don't ... > > Aw, CRAP! > > Now see what you done gone and made me do Jim??? > > Now I've just offended all those friendly (and the two not so > friendly) sawed-off cheesehead runts working in Baraboo! > http://circusworld.wisconsinhistory.org/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 18:22:42 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 17:22:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: References: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0907151343g3c3ce8d9k8870d0040ac24cb7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907151722k611b0865pcf5c3d1ab8f2f55b@mail.gmail.com> Or...if you feel both hands on your shoulders...AND... a 'finger'...you better be concerned! From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 18:36:15 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 19:36:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907151722k611b0865pcf5c3d1ab8f2f55b@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0907151343g3c3ce8d9k8870d0040ac24cb7@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10907151722k611b0865pcf5c3d1ab8f2f55b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907151736r5130d2e7j2c87d91fc4d5527b@mail.gmail.com> > Or...if you feel both hands on your shoulders...AND... a 'finger'...you > better be concerned! Like these guys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBu2ScNjpG4 Lorry Denials From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 15 19:19:53 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:19:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A5E8039.8070909@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >> I hear the "Little People" object to being called "Midget" >> > That's because they're dwarfs. > _______________________________________________ > I always like Munchkins, they look like Midgets, act like dwarfs, and are little people. Hey I object to being called a guinea but people still call me that and a whop, along with a host of other names. What's in a name? Well names are very descriptive, I am what I am, you are what you are, and Midgets are MGs! You know what they say about people who can't take a joke ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 15 19:26:01 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:26:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well References: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com><8de85a9c0907151343g3c3ce8d9k8870d0040ac24cb7@mail.gmail.com><2ad6c6b10907151722k611b0865pcf5c3d1ab8f2f55b@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907151736r5130d2e7j2c87d91fc4d5527b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1EBF9E7E23EA4826B7662D94AE5C167B@Larry> OK, David, there is a limit to how far I will put up with your misuse of my name or any abomination of it. Your private experiences, no matter how much you enjoyed them, are off limits to using my name. I hope this doesn't change your lifestyle as that is not what it was meant to do. Please, go ahead and enjoy. Just leave me out of it. Regards, Larry ;-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well > Or...if you feel both hands on your shoulders...AND... a 'finger'...you > better be concerned! Like these guys? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBu2ScNjpG4 Lorry Denials You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 15 19:34:41 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:34:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well In-Reply-To: <1EBF9E7E23EA4826B7662D94AE5C167B@Larry> References: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0907151343g3c3ce8d9k8870d0040ac24cb7@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10907151722k611b0865pcf5c3d1ab8f2f55b@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907151736r5130d2e7j2c87d91fc4d5527b@mail.gmail.com> <1EBF9E7E23EA4826B7662D94AE5C167B@Larry> Message-ID: <402188520907151834q14e8f477s96774367a621cd53@mail.gmail.com> What? I said nothing about LAD! Methinks thou dost protest o'er much... David Lieb I guess you are jealous. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > OK, David, there is a limit to how far I will put up with your misuse of my > name or any abomination of it. Your private experiences, no matter how much > you enjoyed them, are off limits to using my name. > > I hope this doesn't change your lifestyle as that is not what it was meant > to do. Please, go ahead and enjoy. Just leave me out of it. > > Regards, > > Larry ;-)) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:36 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well > > >> Or...if you feel both hands on your shoulders...AND... a 'finger'...you >> better be concerned! > > Like these guys? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBu2ScNjpG4 > Lorry Denials > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 15 19:40:43 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:40:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well References: <2ad6c6b10907151311h9f241bas47a87a2e7e6f22cb@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0907151343g3c3ce8d9k8870d0040ac24cb7@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10907151722k611b0865pcf5c3d1ab8f2f55b@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907151736r5130d2e7j2c87d91fc4d5527b@mail.gmail.com> <1EBF9E7E23EA4826B7662D94AE5C167B@Larry> <402188520907151834q14e8f477s96774367a621cd53@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <70ABD88DE267473CA24E9040D780F679@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ED NEWS - Ed's Alive and Well What? I said nothing about LAD! Methinks thou dost protest o'er much... David Lieb I guess you are jealous. =========== Never jealous of that lifestyle, David. Just keep it up. I try not to be judgmental. Please, go ahead and enjoy yourself. From grday at btinternet.com Thu Jul 16 01:03:59 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:03:59 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore References: <4A5DF5AD.3040504@sbcglobal.net> <419669.76865.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: A Bantam is a discontinued line of small motor-cycle made by the British Small Arms Company. It sold reasonably well. It is also a small, noisy, scrawny chicken. Homunculus is a short human person, not otherwise deformed. As I'm not so affected I don't often get called a short ass.! LOL I have an Austin Healey Sprite. Some friends have them and others have MG Midgets. I'll leave it at that. :-) Anyway, who cares whether or not a 'Midget is not a Personal Computer anymore.' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "Lee Fox" ; Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore >I like Bantam... sounds cool! I wonder if I can find the chrome >letters.... Homunculus is cool too, but my rocker panels aren't that >long.... > > ________________________________ > From: Lee Fox > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 8:28:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore > > Thesaurus.com offers the following, possibly more PC, alternatives to > "Midget." > > Lilliputian, bantam, gnome, homuncule, homunculus, little person, manikin, > midge, pygmy, runt, baby, diminutive, knee-high, miniature, minikin, > pocket, teensy, teeny, tiny > > I kinda like the idea of driving a "Pocket MG." > > Maybe BL stands for British-Lilliputian. > > Does MG mean Manikin Gnome? > You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jul 16 04:59:05 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:59:05 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Strange names no LBC Message-ID: There are two people on the e-mail list at work who have the surname: Wankling This is absolutely true and why they haven't changed it I'll never know other than they must be stupid. I mean, can you imagine the problems they have whenever they order mail order speak to any one on the phone etc. Regards Weslake-Monza1330 In a message dated 15/07/2009 20:56:10 GMT Daylight Time, dwgwater at hotmail.com writes: This is Snivelling Little Rat-Faced Git. And this is his wife Dreary Fat Boring Old Git. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 16 06:38:58 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:38:58 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Strange names no LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What the L? Well somehow they are reproducing! ;) > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > > There are two people on the e-mail list at work who have the surname: > > Wankling > > This is absolutely true and why they haven't changed it I'll never know > other than they must be stupid. I mean, can you imagine the problems they > have whenever they order mail order speak to any one on the phone etc. > > Regards > > Weslake-Monza1330 > > In a message dated 15/07/2009 20:56:10 GMT Daylight Time, > dwgwater at hotmail.com writes: > > This is Snivelling Little Rat-Faced Git. And this is his wife Dreary Fat > Boring Old Git. From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jul 16 07:43:43 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:43:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch Message-ID: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> >From Craig's List: >1098 block has been replaced with a 1275. Have the 1275 head but my >1098 head was re-seated and valved so I had the water ports redrilled >and run it on the 1275 block., I have a 1098 engine that I am told had a lot of head work by some famous builder years ago. Does this switch make any sense? The 1098 engine has a hot cam and maybe some other goodies as well, so maybe it is best to use it as-is? I just completed the most onerous job known to man - emptying my basement. The floor is subject to hurricane tides, so I took everything out, put in six 2'x8' shelves against the walls, sorted the BE parts by type (duplicates of duplicates, condition unknown), and put it all back. I was hoping to get points from my wife, but all I got was, "It's about time!" Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 08:04:11 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:04:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch In-Reply-To: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> References: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> Message-ID: <402188520907160704j16496146y8002a3ae1b2ea98c@mail.gmail.com> > I have a 1098 engine that I am told had a lot of head work by some famous builder years ago. Does this switch make any sense? The 1098 engine has a hot cam and maybe some other goodies as well, so maybe it is best to use it as-is? Sounds like another "duplicate of duplicate spare to put on those new basement shelves... David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 08:17:47 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:17:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Strange names no LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0907160717j5b16fbcfy3109b2dbf0c5e4f8@mail.gmail.com> Don't open that closet, McGee..... On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:38 AM, wrote: > What the L? > > > > Well somehow they are reproducing! ;) From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 08:27:51 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:27:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Strange names no LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907160717j5b16fbcfy3109b2dbf0c5e4f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0907160717j5b16fbcfy3109b2dbf0c5e4f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907160727w52793addr2371deb37ba74e99@mail.gmail.com> >> Well somehow they are reproducing! ;) I can see why the girls would be anxious to marry early, but that would not explain the continued perpetuation of the name... David L From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 16 08:45:52 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:45:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bantam was the American car company that invented the Jeep. They were originally American Austin. The Austin Bantams were pretty cool little cars. http://wmspear.com/Bantam/ From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 08:56:13 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:56:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget not PC anymore In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907160756r1bcca171gcecc2aa77d1af01f@mail.gmail.com> > Bantam was the American car company that invented the Jeep. > They were originally American Austin. The Austin Bantams were pretty cool > little cars. > http://wmspear.com/Bantam/ Seems to be a bit of an echo on this thread... BTW, you neglected to mention that the 1938 Bantam roadster was the inspiration for Donald Duck's car. David L From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Jul 16 09:24:28 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:24:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint removal Message-ID: <3EE81F44C38B4DD9A410C6C479E2A8A7@AndrewHP> Last night I started removing the paint from my car. My compressor will not power a DA sander, and was wondering what type of electric sander is best - with out putting out much money. Obviously, if I'm dropping real money, I'll put it towards a better compressor. Secondly, I had asked months ago about a recommendation to use razor blades to strip a car. When I found that my new HF palm sander used non-standard paper sizes, and was not too effective, I tried the razor. As you can imagine, some paints and fillers are harder to remove than others, but many areas skimmed off to the last coat of primer with ease similar to scraping paint from glass. I think that this may be the most efficient way to clear 85% of the paint. In some areas, 4 or 5 coats would come up with a single pass. If you plan to try this, two bits of advice: wear glasses, and keep your mouth closed. Cheers, Drew From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 16 09:59:09 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:59:09 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 Message-ID: Houston Texas ebay # 370201478382 NFI From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 16 10:14:03 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 Message-ID: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Could be a great opportunity, but when he says: "What you see of this car is what you get." it translates into, "We can't see the usual rust/rot-prone areas." And is anything hiding under the paint? Jay Fishbein 63 Sprite 61 Innocenti 950 73 Morris Mini Van --- On Thu, 7/16/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 11:59 AM Houston Texas ebay # 370201478382 From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jul 16 10:37:04 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:37:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint removal In-Reply-To: <3EE81F44C38B4DD9A410C6C479E2A8A7@AndrewHP> References: <3EE81F44C38B4DD9A410C6C479E2A8A7@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <158376D0F8CF42F395CC7FE08310F2F9@Home> >keep your mouth closed. Advice for this list? Surely you are jokinig. Michael Rowe From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 16 10:37:21 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:37:21 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > And is anything hiding under the paint? That was my thought too, but if I were near it, I would be checking it out ... > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:14:03 -0700 > > Could be a great opportunity, but when he says: "What you see of this car is what you get." it translates into, "We can't see the usual rust/rot-prone areas." > > And is anything hiding under the paint? > > Jay Fishbein > 63 Sprite > 61 Innocenti 950 > 73 Morris Mini Van > > --- On Thu, 7/16/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: > > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Houston Texas > > ebay # 370201478382 From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 10:38:28 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Strange names no LBC In-Reply-To: <402188520907160727w52793addr2371deb37ba74e99@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <951917.4866.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Self made men? --- On Thu, 7/16/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > reproducing! ;) > > I can see why the girls would be anxious to marry early, > but that > would not explain the continued perpetuation of the > name... > David L From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 16 10:44:56 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 Message-ID: <127978.19208.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Me too. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Thu, 7/16/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 12:37 PM > And is anything hiding under the paint? That was my thought too, but if I were near it, I would be checking it out From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 11:01:41 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:01:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <127978.19208.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <127978.19208.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: Me too. On Thu, 7/16/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: And is anything hiding under the paint? That was my thought too, but if I were near it, I would be checking it out That car has been on Ebay before with the same BIN price. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 11:07:49 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:07:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I don't spend any time in Houston, but I can tell you that the cars 45 miles away, in Galveston, rust quickly. Houston has one of the largest shipping ports in the US, so I am sure rust would be an issue there as well. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > Could be a great opportunity, but when he says: "What you see of this car > is what you get." it translates into, "We can't see the usual rust/rot-prone > areas." > > And is anything hiding under the paint? > > Jay Fishbein > 63 Sprite > 61 Innocenti 950 > 73 Morris Mini Van > > --- On Thu, 7/16/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca < > robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 11:59 AM > > Houston Texas > > ebay # 370201478382 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 11:13:24 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:13:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch In-Reply-To: <402188520907160704j16496146y8002a3ae1b2ea98c@mail.gmail.com> References: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> <402188520907160704j16496146y8002a3ae1b2ea98c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140907161013u2eeecf35ne94d1a40cc60230@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:04 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > I have a 1098 engine that I am told had a lot of head work by some > famous > builder years ago. Does this switch make any sense? The 1098 engine has a > hot cam and maybe some other goodies as well, so maybe it is best to use it > as-is? > > The 1098 head has a considerably larger chamber ( 26.1 or 28.3 cc depending on which head, vs 21.4 for the 1275) so the switch might leave you with a rather anemic compression ratio. Now, if you are supercharging the engine there might be some advantage.... Otherwise I would say that it makes no sense. Hal From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jul 16 11:13:34 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:13:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch In-Reply-To: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> References: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> Message-ID: umm.. Hurricane tides? New York?? So you're really talking just about a little mild rainfall right? Pffft... they only Southern folk, and the closer to the Gulf of Labor you are the bigger they are.. ok, sometimes they hit WAAAAY up North in the Carolinas... but New York? ;-)) Lester On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> From Craig's List: >> 1098 block has been replaced with a 1275. Have the 1275 head but my >> 1098 head was re-seated and valved so I had the water ports redrilled >> and run it on the 1275 block., > > I have a 1098 engine that I am told had a lot of head work by some > famous builder years ago. Does this switch make any sense? The > 1098 engine has a hot cam and maybe some other goodies as well, so > maybe it is best to use it as-is? > > I just completed the most onerous job known to man - emptying my > basement. The floor is subject to hurricane tides, so I took > everything out, put in six 2'x8' shelves against the walls, sorted > the BE parts by type (duplicates of duplicates, condition unknown), > and put it all back. I was hoping to get points from my wife, but > all I got was, "It's about time!" > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Sprite kit > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jul 16 11:14:13 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:14:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint removal In-Reply-To: <158376D0F8CF42F395CC7FE08310F2F9@Home> References: <3EE81F44C38B4DD9A410C6C479E2A8A7@AndrewHP> <158376D0F8CF42F395CC7FE08310F2F9@Home> Message-ID: <99D7CD25-D5FC-4694-AD16-9F2106B8A009@comcast.net> .. and don't call him Shirley! ;-) Lester On Jul 16, 2009, at 11:37 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> keep your mouth closed. > > Advice for this list? Surely you are jokinig. > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 16 11:45:11 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:45:11 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] upping the ante Message-ID: big Healeys; not Sprites ... but ... http://www.myaustinhealey.com/junior.html http://www.junior3000gt.com/ From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:01:04 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:01:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch In-Reply-To: References: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> Message-ID: <4333f8140907161101j1e71b29bv81c6e301bb95676@mail.gmail.com> Did I miss something? I thought we were talking about heads, not hurricanes. Hal On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Lester wrote: > umm.. Hurricane tides? New York?? So you're really talking just about a > little mild rainfall right? > > Pffft... they only Southern folk, and the closer to the Gulf of Labor you > are the bigger they are.. ok, sometimes they hit WAAAAY up North in the > Carolinas... but New York? ;-)) > > Lester > > > > On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > From Craig's List: >>> 1098 block has been replaced with a 1275. Have the 1275 head but my >>> 1098 head was re-seated and valved so I had the water ports redrilled >>> and run it on the 1275 block., From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 16 12:22:30 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch In-Reply-To: <4333f8140907161101j1e71b29bv81c6e301bb95676@mail.gmail.com> References: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> <4333f8140907161101j1e71b29bv81c6e301bb95676@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Heads? That's so 'six hours ago'!!! ;) > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:01:04 -0700 > > Did I miss something? I thought we were talking about heads, not hurricanes. > Hal > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Lester wrote: > > > umm.. Hurricane tides? New York?? So you're really talking just about a > > little mild rainfall right? > > > > Pffft... they only Southern folk, and the closer to the Gulf of Labor you > > are the bigger they are.. ok, sometimes they hit WAAAAY up North in the > > Carolinas... but New York? ;-)) > > > > Lester > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > > > From Craig's List: > >>> 1098 block has been replaced with a 1275. Have the 1275 head but my > >>> 1098 head was re-seated and valved so I had the water ports redrilled > >>> and run it on the 1275 block., From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:39:40 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:39:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch In-Reply-To: References: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> <4333f8140907161101j1e71b29bv81c6e301bb95676@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907161139n53732dafhd134efe0ab05798f@mail.gmail.com> >> Did I miss something? I thought we were talking about heads, not > hurricanes. Hal, Yes, you missed the fact that he was contemplating putting a 1098 head on his 1098. David L From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:47:00 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:47:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Niki Message-ID: <37dc82d40907161147p2429882epb833379d9d91cb83@mail.gmail.com> I misspelled it. Thanks. . . Kirk From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:50:48 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:50:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chevron Message-ID: <37dc82d40907161150t77d2d995ja161ed6cd23576c0@mail.gmail.com> I am not sure what the car is other than he indicated it was a 1971 Chevron. To tell the truth, I am so out of this realm and it wasn't until I met Randall that I had even heard of a Chevron. It is a very cool looking car. Kirk From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:53:35 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:53:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: References: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907161153k167f3692v114b3baf92879d1c@mail.gmail.com> I lived in Houston (Clear Lake City area) from 1977 to 1981. There is NO rust in Houston!! Anything there that could rust has long since turned into little piles of ferrous oxide. Leo Spechinger even has little rust spots behind his ears, in his arm pits and behind his knees. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I don't spend any time in Houston, but I can tell you that the cars 45 > miles > away, in Galveston, rust quickly. Houston has one of the largest shipping > ports in the US, so I am sure rust would be an issue there as well. > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > > > Could be a great opportunity, but when he says: "What you see of this car > > is what you get." it translates into, "We can't see the usual > rust/rot-prone > > areas." > > > > And is anything hiding under the paint? > > > > Jay Fishbein > > 63 Sprite > > 61 Innocenti 950 > > 73 Morris Mini Van > > > > --- On Thu, 7/16/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca < > > robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 > > To: "Spridgets" > > Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 11:59 AM > > > > Houston Texas > > > > ebay # 370201478382 From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 16 12:56:25 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Niki Message-ID: <918616.26465.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Nothing personal, just my twisted humor. :-) Been a fan of Niki's since my first GP back in '74. I look the other way when he spouts-off and sometimes makes a fool of himself. Or when he pretends to know something about Team Management and tries to run an F1 team. Jay Fishbein Fan of real Formula One --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: From: Kirk Hargreaves Subject: Niki To: jfishbein at snet.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 2:47 PM I misspelled it. Thanks. . . Kirk From 72spridget at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:57:12 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:57:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907161153k167f3692v114b3baf92879d1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907161153k167f3692v114b3baf92879d1c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907161157k16869fbfib546014c4005ccf8@mail.gmail.com> > Leo Spechinger even has little rust spots behind his ears, in his arm pits > and behind his knees. Jim, I REALLY do not want to know how you know this. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 13:01:36 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:01:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Link of B19 Blue Message-ID: <37dc82d40907161201y3bb7ade3se91b19bcac7f6da8@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for the link. . there he is again in first place. Could it, in part be due to having the money to have the best prepped engine as well as his driving skills? It is uncanny how he steps up to the plate and hits a home run everytime coming in first. I don't recall the car in blue. . only red. Might be he gave it a re-spray. I missed the event this past June. . might be he painted the car blue. Thanks for finding the pic! Kirk PS Prior to his involvement with guitar amps he re-built Mercedes engines. During the mid 1960's, before he began to make money, his daily driver was a Frog Aye Sprite. He talks about this in his catalogue. .. how he drove a Sprite and how he rebuilt the engine a few tiimes. . and then how he got into rebuilding engines for Mercedes Benz's. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 13:53:16 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:53:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <402188520907161157k16869fbfib546014c4005ccf8@mail.gmail.com> References: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907161153k167f3692v114b3baf92879d1c@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907161157k16869fbfib546014c4005ccf8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I guess there were more activities going on at LotO than most of us knew about!! LOL On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > Leo Spechinger even has little rust spots behind his ears, in his arm > pits > > and behind his knees. > > Jim, > I REALLY do not want to know how you know this. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jul 16 14:04:26 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:04:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907161153k167f3692v114b3baf92879d1c@mail.gmail.com> References: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907161153k167f3692v114b3baf92879d1c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <077A03F3CBEE45619C8A399C00765420@CatheyBPC> I would like to know how you KNOW this Jim??:) Did you by chance sneak into my room during the nights at LOTO and do some midnight voyerisim I am not aware of....LOL.... BTW I have looked at this car and in my opinion isnt worth more than 200 tops. Not a lot of rust in it but it is basically a shell with running gear still on it. Leo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Brad Fornal" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 >I lived in Houston (Clear Lake City area) from 1977 to 1981. There is NO > rust in Houston!! Anything there that could rust has long since turned > into > little piles of ferrous oxide. > > Leo Spechinger even has little rust spots behind his ears, in his arm pits > and behind his knees. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Brad Fornal > wrote: > >> I don't spend any time in Houston, but I can tell you that the cars 45 >> miles >> away, in Galveston, rust quickly. Houston has one of the largest shipping >> ports in the US, so I am sure rust would be an issue there as well. >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Jay Fishbein >> wrote: >> >> > Could be a great opportunity, but when he says: "What you see of this >> > car >> > is what you get." it translates into, "We can't see the usual >> rust/rot-prone >> > areas." >> > >> > And is anything hiding under the paint? >> > >> > Jay Fishbein >> > 63 Sprite >> > 61 Innocenti 950 >> > 73 Morris Mini Van >> > >> > --- On Thu, 7/16/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca < >> > robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: >> > >> > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> > Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 >> > To: "Spridgets" >> > Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 11:59 AM >> > >> > Houston Texas >> > >> > ebay # 370201478382 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 14:39:42 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:39:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Niki In-Reply-To: <918616.26465.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <918616.26465.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907161339v39c4af42yd4d7936d9e9f296f@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > Nothing personal, just my twisted humor. :-) > > Been a fan of Niki's since my first GP back in '74. I look the other > way when he spouts-off and sometimes makes a fool of himself. Or when he > pretends to know something about Team Management and tries to run an F1 > team. Thanks for the chuckle, Jay! You made my day with that observation! Now that we are in the "silly season" what do you make of things so far? Personally, I have to look back a long way to find a season that has been this enjoyable. What more could you ask for? Two teams rise from nowhere to dominate the season to date, Max is in - no he's out - no he's in again - etc., Bernie is God - no he's not - yes he is - no he's not - etc., FOTA is in - no their not - yes they are - etc., everyone loves KERS - no they don't - yes they do - well Ferrari and McLaren can at least afford the technology - for now anyway - or can they?, budget caps are on - no they aren't - yes they are - who the hell knows..... It isn't Collin Chapman and Lotus like in 1966, but it's not bad if you like entertainment! -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jul 16 14:44:22 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:44:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] F85 Cutlass Tail Light Lens In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907161150t77d2d995ja161ed6cd23576c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907161150t77d2d995ja161ed6cd23576c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D0D6C82-F22D-4FC4-B5E9-91F500DD4868@ado13.com> I need 4 tail light lens for a 1961 Oldsmobile F85 Cutlass. I've been searching the web and Ebay with no luck. They are 3" in diameter and have two screw holes. The number is R3Z-61. Any ideas? Larry Miller From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 16 14:45:12 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Niki Message-ID: <588615.14767.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> For the first time in my life I am losing interest in what now purports to be Formula One. A better job of ruining the sport could only have been effected by Tony George. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Niki To: "Jay Fishbein" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 4:39 PM On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Jay Fishbein wrote: Nothing personal, just my twisted humor. :-) Been a fan of Niki's since my first GP back in '74. I look the other way when he spouts-off and sometimes makes a fool of himself. Or when he pretends to know something about Team Management and tries to run an F1 team. Thanks for the chuckle, Jay! You made my day with that observation! Now that we are in the "silly season" what do you make of things so far? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 14:45:45 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:45:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <077A03F3CBEE45619C8A399C00765420@CatheyBPC> References: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907161153k167f3692v114b3baf92879d1c@mail.gmail.com> <077A03F3CBEE45619C8A399C00765420@CatheyBPC> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907161345y709fda87r5f58e705070696ad@mail.gmail.com> Leo, I was told it's written on the restroom wall at "Mary's" gay bar on Westhiemer in Houston. You know - just down the street from the Galleria? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:04 PM, ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > I would like to know how you KNOW this Jim??:) Did you by chance sneak > into my room during the nights at LOTO and do some midnight voyerisim I am > not aware of....LOL.... > > BTW I have looked at this car and in my opinion isnt worth more than 200 > tops. Not a lot of rust in it but it is basically a shell with running > gear still on it. > > Leo > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" > To: "Brad Fornal" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:53 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 > > > I lived in Houston (Clear Lake City area) from 1977 to 1981. There is NO >> rust in Houston!! Anything there that could rust has long since turned >> into >> little piles of ferrous oxide. >> >> Leo Spechinger even has little rust spots behind his ears, in his arm pits >> and behind his knees. >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Brad Fornal > >wrote: >> >> I don't spend any time in Houston, but I can tell you that the cars 45 >>> miles >>> away, in Galveston, rust quickly. Houston has one of the largest shipping >>> ports in the US, so I am sure rust would be an issue there as well. >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Jay Fishbein >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Could be a great opportunity, but when he says: "What you see of this > >>> car >>> > is what you get." it translates into, "We can't see the usual >>> rust/rot-prone >>> > areas." >>> > >>> > And is anything hiding under the paint? >>> > >>> > Jay Fishbein >>> > 63 Sprite >>> > 61 Innocenti 950 >>> > 73 Morris Mini Van >>> > >>> > --- On Thu, 7/16/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca < >>> > robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: >>> > >>> > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca >>> > Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 >>> > To: "Spridgets" >>> > Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 11:59 AM >>> > >>> > Houston Texas >>> > >>> > ebay # 370201478382 >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From gjbranch at comcast.net Thu Jul 16 14:54:43 2009 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:54:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] F85 Cutlass Tail Light Lens In-Reply-To: <5D0D6C82-F22D-4FC4-B5E9-91F500DD4868@ado13.com> References: <37dc82d40907161150t77d2d995ja161ed6cd23576c0@mail.gmail.com> <5D0D6C82-F22D-4FC4-B5E9-91F500DD4868@ado13.com> Message-ID: <4A5F9393.2060009@comcast.net> /SQqriY: Permission denied From richb at u.washington.edu Thu Jul 16 14:57:07 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:57:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] F85 Cutlass Tail Light Lens References: <37dc82d40907161150t77d2d995ja161ed6cd23576c0@mail.gmail.com> <5D0D6C82-F22D-4FC4-B5E9-91F500DD4868@ado13.com> Message-ID: <503FFFCC4C43419CA03BC82E88A7E58B@psych.washington.edu> Try this site. I came up with two possible locations when searching for tail light. One in Washington, and one in Cali. http://www.car-part.com/ Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Miller" To: "Spridget" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:44 PM Subject: [Spridgets] F85 Cutlass Tail Light Lens >I need 4 tail light lens for a 1961 Oldsmobile F85 Cutlass. I've been >searching the web and Ebay with no luck. They are 3" in diameter and have >two screw holes. The number is R3Z-61. > > Any ideas? > > > Larry Miller > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 16 15:00:43 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:00:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Niki In-Reply-To: <588615.14767.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <588615.14767.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A5F328B.1849.1AC1E42@kk7ss.verizon.net> A1GP??? On 16 Jul 2009 at 13:45, Jay Fishbein wrote: >> For the first time in my life I am losing interest in what now >> purports to be Formula One. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Jul 16 15:12:55 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:12:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint removal Message-ID: <200907162112.n6GLCqnC023781@txslsmtp1.vzwmail.net> Paint chips are quite crunchy... -----Original Message----- From: Michael Rowe Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:37 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint removal >keep your mouth closed. Advice for this list? Surely you are jokinig. Michael Rowe You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 16 15:14:30 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:14:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Niki Message-ID: <143590.15026.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> A1GP? No and for the same reasons. Every form of racing at the highest level has become spec-racing. Engineering and entrepreneurs are excluded from racing. $ and depth of testing rules. --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Dave G. wrote: From: Dave G. Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Niki To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 5:00 PM A1GP??? On 16 Jul 2009 at 13:45, Jay Fishbein wrote: >> For the first time in my life I am losing interest in what now >> purports to be Formula One. From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 16 15:15:33 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Niki Message-ID: <912955.54526.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> A1GP? No. A1GP is a spec series. It is unfortunate, but every form of racing at the highest level has become spec-racing. Engineering and entrepreneurs are excluded from racing by rule books the size of the NYC telephone directory. Creativity is banned. --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Dave G. wrote: From: Dave G. Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Niki To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 5:00 PM A1GP??? On 16 Jul 2009 at 13:45, Jay Fishbein wrote: >> For the first time in my life I am losing interest in what now >> purports to be Formula One. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! You are subscribed as jfishbein at snet.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 15:16:10 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:16:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907161345y709fda87r5f58e705070696ad@mail.gmail.com> References: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907161153k167f3692v114b3baf92879d1c@mail.gmail.com> <077A03F3CBEE45619C8A399C00765420@CatheyBPC> <43840a7e0907161345y709fda87r5f58e705070696ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I take it you spent some time in Houston. You know all the places you like to hang out. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Leo, > > I was told it's written on the restroom wall at "Mary's" gay bar on > Westhiemer in Houston. You know - just down the street from the Galleria? > ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:04 PM, ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > >> I would like to know how you KNOW this Jim??:) Did you by chance sneak >> into my room during the nights at LOTO and do some midnight voyerisim I am >> not aware of....LOL.... >> >> BTW I have looked at this car and in my opinion isnt worth more than 200 >> tops. Not a lot of rust in it but it is basically a shell with running >> gear still on it. >> >> Leo >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" >> To: "Brad Fornal" >> Cc: "Spridgets" >> Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:53 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 >> >> >> I lived in Houston (Clear Lake City area) from 1977 to 1981. There is NO >>> rust in Houston!! Anything there that could rust has long since turned >>> into >>> little piles of ferrous oxide. >>> >>> Leo Spechinger even has little rust spots behind his ears, in his arm >>> pits >>> and behind his knees. >>> >>> Cheers!! >>> Jim >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Brad Fornal >> >wrote: >>> >>> I don't spend any time in Houston, but I can tell you that the cars 45 >>>> miles >>>> away, in Galveston, rust quickly. Houston has one of the largest >>>> shipping >>>> ports in the US, so I am sure rust would be an issue there as well. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Jay Fishbein >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Could be a great opportunity, but when he says: "What you see of this >>>> > car >>>> > is what you get." it translates into, "We can't see the usual >>>> rust/rot-prone >>>> > areas." >>>> > >>>> > And is anything hiding under the paint? >>>> > >>>> > Jay Fishbein >>>> > 63 Sprite >>>> > 61 Innocenti 950 >>>> > 73 Morris Mini Van >>>> > >>>> > --- On Thu, 7/16/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca < >>>> > robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca >>>> > Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 >>>> > To: "Spridgets" >>>> > Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 11:59 AM >>>> > >>>> > Houston Texas >>>> > >>>> > ebay # 370201478382 >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >>> >> >> > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > bOnly two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am > not > sure about the former.b - Albert Einstein > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 16 15:17:28 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Niki Message-ID: <717261.12425.qm@web83910.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> A1GP? No. A1GP is a spec series. It is unfortunate, but every form of racing at the highest level has become spec-racing. Engineering and entrepreneurs are excluded from racing by rule books the size of the NYC telephone directory. Creativity is banned. --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Dave G. wrote: From: Dave G. Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Niki To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 5:00 PM A1GP??? From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jul 16 15:25:22 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:25:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] F85 Cutlass Tail Light Lens In-Reply-To: <503FFFCC4C43419CA03BC82E88A7E58B@psych.washington.edu> References: <37dc82d40907161150t77d2d995ja161ed6cd23576c0@mail.gmail.com> <5D0D6C82-F22D-4FC4-B5E9-91F500DD4868@ado13.com> <503FFFCC4C43419CA03BC82E88A7E58B@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <290EB662-2346-49AA-A3C8-C6A147828992@ado13.com> I have emails out to the two listed. Larry On Jul 16, 2009, at 1:57 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Try this site. I came up with two possible locations when searching > for tail light. One in Washington, and one in Cali. > > http://www.car-part.com/ > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Miller" > To: "Spridget" > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:44 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] F85 Cutlass Tail Light Lens > > >> I need 4 tail light lens for a 1961 Oldsmobile F85 Cutlass. I've >> been searching the web and Ebay with no luck. They are 3" in >> diameter and have two screw holes. The number is R3Z-61. >> >> Any ideas? >> >> >> Larry Miller >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 16 15:39:14 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:39:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Niki In-Reply-To: <143590.15026.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <143590.15026.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A5F3B92.18099.1CF6235@kk7ss.verizon.net> Understood... I used to run SCCA Solo II in mhy '67 Sprite until Pirelli, Dunlop and others started giving away valuable prizes (instead of a 25cent plaque) and then many entrants started to spend big money on their cars to make up for poor driving technique....... Made folks like me, driving the family sedan, very non-competitive. Haven't raced since ;-(( They run a form of Solo II )really just pylon racing" around here but it is usually populated with highly modified rice-burners or SHO Mustangs... On 16 Jul 2009 at 14:14, Jay Fishbein wrote: >> A1GP? No and for the same reasons. >> >> Every form of racing at the highest level has become spec-racing. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 16 16:05:25 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:05:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint removal In-Reply-To: <3EE81F44C38B4DD9A410C6C479E2A8A7@AndrewHP> References: <3EE81F44C38B4DD9A410C6C479E2A8A7@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <4A5FA425.2000109@comcast.net> Andrew Payne wrote: > and was wondering what type of electric sander is best - > with out putting out much money. Get a cheap 4 inch angle grinder, then go out and buy the sanding discs for the grinder. Watch the grit numbers, 36 grit will take it down fast and leave 36 grit sand marks. 120 grit works too is easier to fill in but takes longer to do. Then there is 60 grit, probably a nice medium choice. I know Lowes sells the sanding discs, horrible freight has em too but they just don't last. De-Walt discs last a good long time. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 16:14:16 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <077A03F3CBEE45619C8A399C00765420@CatheyBPC> Message-ID: <652569.65865.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I need good fenders and bonnet for "White Trash Too" - somebody go buy it! --- On Thu, 7/16/09, ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > From: ldsp <60bugeye at cebridge.net> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 > To: "Jim Johnson" , "Brad Fornal" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Date: Thursday, July 16, From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jul 16 17:01:52 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:01:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch In-Reply-To: References: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> Message-ID: > umm.. Hurricane tides? New York?? So you're really talking just about > a little mild rainfall right? The highest hurricane mud line on my wall is at 2'. Since my house is 8' up on piles and my "basement" is at ground level 3-4' above normal high water, it can get wet down there in hurricane tides. There is an advantage. Anything I don't pick up off the floor before a hurricane ends up in Greenland. Michael Rowe From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jul 16 17:12:13 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:12:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OOPS!!! I mixed the numbers up when I looked at the original e-mail and this is NOT the car I referenced in my prior replies. If anyone needs it looked at I can do it. Leo ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:59 AM Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 > Houston Texas > > > > ebay # 370201478382 > > > > NFI > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 17:14:20 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:14:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint removal In-Reply-To: <4A5FA425.2000109@comcast.net> References: <3EE81F44C38B4DD9A410C6C479E2A8A7@AndrewHP> <4A5FA425.2000109@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8c1781040907161614y42ef5c60ra329dbcfcd4edfe1@mail.gmail.com> Just be careful and don't create hot spots. Keep moving and come back around to clean up the last layers. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Frank wrote: > Andrew Payne wrote: >> >> and was wondering what type of electric sander is best - >> with out putting out much money. > > Get a cheap 4 inch angle grinder, then go out and buy the sanding discs for > the grinder. > Watch the grit numbers, 36 grit will take it down fast and leave 36 grit > sand marks. > 120 grit works too is easier to fill in but takes longer to do. > Then there is 60 grit, probably a nice medium choice. > I know Lowes sells the sanding discs, horrible freight has em too but they > just don't last. > De-Walt discs last a good long time. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jul 16 17:20:50 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:20:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Niki Message-ID: The series went bust a coupla weeks back. In a message dated 16/07/2009 22:06:41 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at verizon.net writes: A1GP??? From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Jul 16 18:34:45 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:34:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint removal Message-ID: <200907170034.n6H0YgnC004874@txslsmtp1.vzwmail.net> Frank Thanks for the response. I do appreciate the sander tips. Fyi, my earlier email came back as spam. Cheers Drew -----Original Message----- From: Frank Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:05 PM To: Andrew Payne Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Paint removal Andrew Payne wrote: > and was wondering what type of electric sander is best - > with out putting out much money. Get a cheap 4 inch angle grinder, then go out and buy the sanding discs for the grinder. Watch the grit numbers, 36 grit will take it down fast and leave 36 grit sand marks. 120 grit works too is easier to fill in but takes longer to do. Then there is 60 grit, probably a nice medium choice. I know Lowes sells the sanding discs, horrible freight has em too but they just don't last. De-Walt discs last a good long time. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From herby at herbytoys.com Thu Jul 16 18:36:55 2009 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:36:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: <652569.65865.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0EEF75A02D094ABEA695B44244539CBE@HERBYZ> How good you looking for on the fenders Ron? I have some with a slight steel (and some bondo) flare that are in usable shape as is. However they need the paint stripped, a little tweaking on one fender and clean up the flares to be perfect. You can have them for shipping costs. Of course shipping may not be cheap from the here on the west coast. Maybe someone is heading your way. You can kinda see one here is this pic. http://www.herbytoys.com/images/Sprite%20libre.jpg BTW the tub (+plus some parts) is for sale. Includes the double engine stand style rotisserie it's currently on. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com I need good fenders and bonnet for "White Trash Too" - somebody go buy it! From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 16 19:23:26 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:23:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... Message-ID: <4A5F701E.1316.29CA669@kk7ss.verizon.net> Now I know how Frank feels..... There's a knock on the door - I open it and there's a fella there I've not seen before... Short synopsis of the conversation.. "I hear you have a Midget" (Where did he hear that??) "Nope, but I got a Sprite, same thing..." "I wonder if you'd like to help me get mine running for my daughter?", says he. "Sure. I'll take a look for you" Faded Orange paint, steel bumper Midget, 1275 motor, seperate brake and clutch m/c's, partially de-smogged, flat tires but reasonable interior... I sure got myself in deep on this one... battery tray rusted through, no battery, gas has turned to lacquer, hasn't moved in four years, carb slides are solid in the body, with odd screws jammed in odd places!! I told him; "you get the parts and I'll tell you what to do with them and over-see what you do... OK??" He said "OK!" Ah well... I probably needed a break from the Beast anyway -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 16 19:27:19 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:27:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Re" Now I know how it feels, Frank... follow up.. Message-ID: <4A5F7107.12793.2A031F5@kk7ss.verizon.net> I just remembered... I saw him at my boys Scout Camp about 8 years ago.... but I had a Jag MK IX back then... ?!?! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From gjbranch at comcast.net Thu Jul 16 19:28:07 2009 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:28:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... In-Reply-To: <4A5F701E.1316.29CA669@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A5F701E.1316.29CA669@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4A5FD3A7.1030308@comcast.net> From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 16 19:34:06 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:34:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... In-Reply-To: <4A5F701E.1316.29CA669@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A5F701E.1316.29CA669@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4526A0C397094BD98A7A08A6EF670CBA@spider> Does he have the title? ...bill in oregon ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:23 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... Now I know how Frank feels..... There's a knock on the door - I open it and there's a fella there I've not seen before... Short synopsis of the conversation.. "I hear you have a Midget" (Where did he hear that??) "Nope, but I got a Sprite, same thing..." "I wonder if you'd like to help me get mine running for my daughter?", says he. "Sure. I'll take a look for you" Faded Orange paint, steel bumper Midget, 1275 motor, seperate brake and clutch m/c's, partially de-smogged, flat tires but reasonable interior... I sure got myself in deep on this one... battery tray rusted through, no battery, gas has turned to lacquer, hasn't moved in four years, carb slides are solid in the body, with odd screws jammed in odd places!! I told him; "you get the parts and I'll tell you what to do with them and over-see what you do... OK??" He said "OK!" Ah well... I probably needed a break from the Beast anyway -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 16 19:58:16 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:58:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... In-Reply-To: <4526A0C397094BD98A7A08A6EF670CBA@spider> References: <4A5F701E.1316.29CA669@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <4526A0C397094BD98A7A08A6EF670CBA@spider> Message-ID: <4A5F7848.17148.2BC87D3@kk7ss.verizon.net> Yes.... he has the title. He bought it from the second owner's wife after her husband died from Cancer. It was a runner once but has been sitting in his backyard for about 4-5 years while his daughter has been at college.. BTW - he has a few spare Isuzu diesel alternators.... would they be adaptable to my Sprite?? Maybe I can trade for my time.... ;^) On 16 Jul 2009 at 18:34, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: >> Does he have the title? ...bill in oregon -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 20:30:57 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! Message-ID: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Came out of the gym tonight to find a herd of Girl around the Bugeye taking pictures of the car. They were sending the pics to their boyfriends, of course. At the car's still got it, Ron From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jul 16 20:50:04 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:50:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MKI MG for sale Message-ID: <24B5FEAD81A44DF99F5DFB7C8FA650C6@blackbox2> If anyone is interested... I saw a MKI midget for sale at Langhorne Speed Shop (In PA north of the turnpike on Rt 1). Body looks fair, typical battery tray rot. Seats had covers over them. Faded red paint, might be original. I did notice SU's had spun aluminum velocity stacks. Distributor had mechanical advance. Somebody was playing around a bit. The shop owner said he wants $3500 but I don't think he is going to get anything near that for it. No interest here, I was just there to pick up some parts. It's been a while since I've seen a non rollup window car for sale on the side of the road. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Thu Jul 16 21:36:39 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] MKI MG for sale In-Reply-To: <24B5FEAD81A44DF99F5DFB7C8FA650C6@blackbox2> Message-ID: <533414773.2557211247801799235.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Dean, I didn't know you were in the area.B That car has been there for 3years.B It was the first sprite/midgit i looked at when i went looking for one. at that time he wanted $4k.B and despite what larry macy says i drive past that car 2 times a day and it has moved on 3 count them 3 occasions in the last three years.B from one side of the parking lot to another and back. ryan kubanoff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hedin" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:50:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] MKI MG for sale If anyone is interested... I saw a MKI midget for sale at Langhorne Speed Shop (In PA north of the turnpike on Rt 1). Body looks fair, typical battery tray rot. B Seats had covers over them. B Faded red paint, might be original. I did notice SU's had spun aluminum velocity stacks. B Distributor had mechanical advance. Somebody was playing around a bit. The shop owner said he wants $3500 but I don't think he is going to get anything near that for it. No interest here, I was just there to pick up some parts. It's been a while since I've seen a non rollup window car for sale on the side of the road. B From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 23:47:46 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:47:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint removal In-Reply-To: <4A5FA425.2000109@comcast.net> References: <3EE81F44C38B4DD9A410C6C479E2A8A7@AndrewHP> <4A5FA425.2000109@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907162247o5cabd51awa366720f924e487@mail.gmail.com> After working on the Holy Sprite at Frank's place I became a devotee of a random orbital sander (I bought an electric DeWalt because I don't have a big compressor) and a box each of 60 grit and 120 grit. When I finally get to that part of the process I'll finish off with 200 grit. The DeWalt is a great tool and takes the hook disks which stay in place and last a decent amount of time. Sooooo..... What Frank said. Afterall, he's got a whole damned fleet of cars...... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Frank wrote: > Andrew Payne wrote: > >> and was wondering what type of electric sander is best - >> with out putting out much money. >> > Get a cheap 4 inch angle grinder, then go out and buy the sanding discs for > the grinder. > Watch the grit numbers, 36 grit will take it down fast and leave 36 grit > sand marks. > 120 grit works too is easier to fill in but takes longer to do. > Then there is 60 grit, probably a nice medium choice. > I know Lowes sells the sanding discs, horrible freight has em too but they > just don't last. > De-Walt discs last a good long time. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 16 23:51:38 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:51:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI: 63-4 Sprite body - $550 In-Reply-To: References: <970140.36059.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907161153k167f3692v114b3baf92879d1c@mail.gmail.com> <077A03F3CBEE45619C8A399C00765420@CatheyBPC> <43840a7e0907161345y709fda87r5f58e705070696ad@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907162251i21e2bf1eife062e1579211ef7@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I take it you spent some time in Houston. You know all the places you like > to hang out. Ummmm..... When you say "hang out" exactly what do you mean.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 00:03:07 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:03:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907162303q6ff22a40o9e9e1e29884f6ce5@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > > the car's still got it, Nice to know something does.... I had the Midget out and about today. My luck is a little different than yours. Parked outside a downtown sandwich shop where I went for lunch. Two 20 somethings pop in and ask who owns that cool little car. I suck in my gut and in a low rumbling voice say, "Can you dig it?" One of them informs there is a puddle of oil under it - just thought you'd like to know. They giggle and leave, Ipods in ear, to catch up to the two muscle guys outside in football jerseys with a Solaris convertible. They probably have rotten personalities anyway..... -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bighealey at charter.net Fri Jul 17 05:38:21 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 04:38:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... In-Reply-To: <4526A0C397094BD98A7A08A6EF670CBA@spider> Message-ID: My duagher says to me can we all (her girlfriends) get in and get our picture. Sure no problem. Next thing I hear is dad get out of the picture. I "got" the picture. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:34 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... Does he have the title? ...bill in oregon ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 6:23 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... Now I know how Frank feels..... There's a knock on the door - I open it and there's a fella there I've not seen before... Short synopsis of the conversation.. "I hear you have a Midget" (Where did he hear that??) "Nope, but I got a Sprite, same thing..." "I wonder if you'd like to help me get mine running for my daughter?", says he. "Sure. I'll take a look for you" Faded Orange paint, steel bumper Midget, 1275 motor, seperate brake and clutch m/c's, partially de-smogged, flat tires but reasonable interior... I sure got myself in deep on this one... battery tray rusted through, no battery, gas has turned to lacquer, hasn't moved in four years, carb slides are solid in the body, with odd screws jammed in odd places!! I told him; "you get the parts and I'll tell you what to do with them and over-see what you do... OK??" He said "OK!" Ah well... I probably needed a break from the Beast anyway -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 08:36:17 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:36:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Paint removal In-Reply-To: <4A5FA425.2000109@comcast.net> References: <3EE81F44C38B4DD9A410C6C479E2A8A7@AndrewHP> <4A5FA425.2000109@comcast.net> Message-ID: <441250190907170736we2f66c5m3f54f26ef49245dc@mail.gmail.com> Same idea but you can usally get a crapsmans 8 in variable speed grinder for not to much money. Klingspor makes decent sand paper products. -g On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Frank wrote: > Andrew Payne wrote: > >> and was wondering what type of electric sander is best - >> with out putting out much money. >> > Get a cheap 4 inch angle grinder, then go out and buy the sanding discs for > the grinder. > Watch the grit numbers, 36 grit will take it down fast and leave 36 grit > sand marks. > 120 grit works too is easier to fill in but takes longer to do. > Then there is 60 grit, probably a nice medium choice. > I know Lowes sells the sanding discs, horrible freight has em too but they > just don't last. > De-Walt discs last a good long time. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Their mythology starts with the false premise that these are irreplaceable geniuses Andrew Cuomo speaking about AIG executives From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 17 09:01:06 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:01:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] lenham sprite Message-ID: prototype? http://forsale.classicandperformancecar.com/detail.aspx?ad=9384&d=101 From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 09:25:55 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:25:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] lenham sprite In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907170825k2759e446m7395e8efd412e8dd@mail.gmail.com> > prototype? > http://forsale.classicandperformancecar.com/detail.aspx?ad=9384&d=101 And the bottom of the page has a link to the extremely rare 1860 Bugeye in VERY Olde Englishe White... http://forsale.classicandperformancecar.com/detail.aspx?ad=13562&d=1125 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 17 10:52:41 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:52:41 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] lenham sprite In-Reply-To: <402188520907170825k2759e446m7395e8efd412e8dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907170825k2759e446m7395e8efd412e8dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It would want to be that rare for that price!!! :) > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:25:55 -0500 > From: 72spridget at gmail.com > > And the bottom of the page has a link to the extremely rare 1860 > Bugeye in VERY Olde Englishe White... > http://forsale.classicandperformancecar.com/detail.aspx?ad=13562&d=1125 From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 17 10:54:56 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:54:56 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... Message-ID: What was the daughter like? In a message dated 17/07/2009 02:23:46 GMT Daylight Time, kk7ss at verizon.net writes: "I wonder if you'd like to help me get mine running for my daughter?", From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 17 11:10:28 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 10:10:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Now I know how it feels, Frank...... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A604E14.20712.69C237@kk7ss.verizon.net> Dunno... He said she's away at college --- which probably means there is at least 50 years between us.... Damn ! On 17 Jul 2009 at 12:54, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: >> What was the daughter like? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 11:16:28 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:16:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] lenham sprite In-Reply-To: <402188520907170825k2759e446m7395e8efd412e8dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907170825k2759e446m7395e8efd412e8dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907171016i3c78708bo830de1728437933f@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:25 AM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> prototype? >> http://forsale.classicandperformancecar.com/detail.aspx?ad=9384&d=101 > > And the bottom of the page has a link to the extremely rare 1860 > Bugeye in VERY Olde Englishe White... > http://forsale.classicandperformancecar.com/detail.aspx?ad=13562&d=1125 It's a testament to the enduring quality of the original design that they didn't have to update almost at all over those 100 years! From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 17 12:18:26 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:18:26 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907162303q6ff22a40o9e9e1e29884f6ce5@mail.gmail.com> References: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907162303q6ff22a40o9e9e1e29884f6ce5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A60C072.5070906@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > >> the car's still got it, >> > > > Nice to know something does.... I had the Midget out and about today. My > luck is a little different than yours. Parked outside a downtown sandwich > shop where I went for lunch. Two 20 somethings pop in and ask who owns that > cool little car. I suck in my gut and in a low rumbling voice say, "Can you > dig it?" One of them informs there is a puddle of oil under it - just > thought you'd like to know. They giggle and leave, Ipods in ear, to catch up > to the two muscle guys outside in football jerseys with a Solaris > convertible. > > They probably have rotten personalities anyway..... > -- > Jim your line was all wrong. When the young ladies come by my Sprite, I just say "Go get your mother" -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 12:16:57 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:16:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist Message-ID: <37dc82d40907171116y45db8b7aw31ccd0b81a339246@mail.gmail.com> One who has a fascination with the rectum and all that has to do with it. Spends many years in school studying the rectum. Years ago, there was actually a proctologist in San Diego who was listed as a "Dr. Harry Buttes." Pronounced a bit differently. . but I bet he took a lot of teasing. Kirk From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 12:42:31 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:42:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] lenham sprite In-Reply-To: <402188520907170825k2759e446m7395e8efd412e8dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907170825k2759e446m7395e8efd412e8dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907171142h2a17ced5ide3ab31ca4e8b335@mail.gmail.com> Frank has one that old.... > > And the bottom of the page has a link to the extremely rare 1860 > Bugeye in VERY Olde Englishe White... From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jul 17 13:02:45 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:02:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] lenham sprite In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907171142h2a17ced5ide3ab31ca4e8b335@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The Bugeye is another type of boat unique to the Chesapeake Bay. The bugeye was developed in the early 1860 as an evolution of the log canoe. http://www.baydreaming.com/boats.htm From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Jul 17 13:15:29 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907171116y45db8b7aw31ccd0b81a339246@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1021649838.2776781247858129062.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Once went out with a girl who's gynocologists name was Dr. Bush.B B Never had any choice but to do that as a profession. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 2:16:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist One who has a fascination with the rectum and all that has to do with it. Spends many years in school studying the rectum. Years ago, there was actually a proctologist in San Diego who was listed as a "Dr. Harry Buttes." Pronounced a bit differently. . but I bet he took a lot of teasing. Kirk From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 17 13:23:45 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist In-Reply-To: <1021649838.2776781247858129062.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1021649838.2776781247858129062.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <619640.81244.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think Dick Butkus went into the correct profession..... I wouldn't have messed with him! To: Kirk Hargreaves Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:15:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist Once went out with a girl who's gynocologists name was Dr. Bush.B B Never had any choice but to do that as a profession. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 2:16:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist One who has a fascination with the rectum and all that has to do with it. Spends many years in school studying the rectum. Years ago, there was actually a proctologist in San Diego who was listed as a "Dr. Harry Buttes." Pronounced a bit differently. . but I bet he took a lot of teasing. Kirk You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 17 13:51:20 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:51:20 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Fargo - NO LBC Message-ID: hi list - No LBC I watched the film 'Fargo' the other evening and was intrigued that the characters from North Dakota (or was it South) instead of saying yes or yeah said Yahh. Why did they speak like that? I thought only Scandanavians speaking English said Yahh. Thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 17 13:55:08 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:55:08 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Door catch - interior Message-ID: Hi List, I already know that sometime pre 69 the Spridget used a different type of door lock and striker (I'm after two locks and a left hand side striker plate). However, was the interior catch also different? This would be wind-up window cars which I think most of you call roll up. If anyone has a photo I'd appreciate it. Thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 From gjbranch at comcast.net Fri Jul 17 13:58:45 2009 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:58:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fargo - NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A60D7F5.4060505@comcast.net> From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 17 13:57:03 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:57:03 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Link of B19 Blue Message-ID: I doubt it. An experienced team mechanic told me that one everything is going really well it's down to a great driver but when things are not going well there is obviously a problem with the car. In a message dated 16/07/2009 20:06:38 GMT Daylight Time, khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: Could it, in part be due to having the money to have the best prepped engine as well as his driving skills? From 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET Fri Jul 17 14:03:35 2009 From: 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET (63ahbj7) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:03:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907162303q6ff22a40o9e9e1e29884f6ce5@mail.gmail.com> References: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907162303q6ff22a40o9e9e1e29884f6ce5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A60D917.7050508@COMCAST.NET> /ssTuSk: Permission denied From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 14:06:58 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:06:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: <4A60C072.5070906@comcast.net> References: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907162303q6ff22a40o9e9e1e29884f6ce5@mail.gmail.com> <4A60C072.5070906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907171306g1d8d6584s24122569ada32632@mail.gmail.com> I even tried a trick Soave told me about. I put a potato in my bathing suit. That was even worse!! Do you think I should have put it in the front? Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Frank wrote: > Jim Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > > the car's still got it, > > > Nice to know something does.... I had the Midget out and about today. My > luck is a little different than yours. Parked outside a downtown sandwich > shop where I went for lunch. Two 20 somethings pop in and ask who owns that > cool little car. I suck in my gut and in a low rumbling voice say, "Can you > dig it?" One of them informs there is a puddle of oil under it - just > thought you'd like to know. They giggle and leave, Ipods in ear, to catch up > to the two muscle guys outside in football jerseys with a Solaris > convertible. > > They probably have rotten personalities anyway..... > -- > > > Jim your line was all wrong. > When the young ladies come by my Sprite, I just say "Go get your mother" > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 17 14:07:49 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:07:49 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! Message-ID: Was it raw or baked? In a message dated 17/07/2009 21:07:19 GMT Daylight Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: I even tried a trick Soave told me about. I put a potato in my bathing suit. From twobees at sprynet.com Fri Jul 17 14:09:32 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:09:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] ALMS Qualifying at LRP on Speed TV Streaming Message-ID: <007601ca071a$804d1580$6401a8c0@normoffice> I'm watching the qualifying from Lime Rock. Great racing. BUT...who is that screaming jerk they have announcing??? He's so bad it sounds like the 7 PM TV shows that scream the nonsense Hollywood news. Norm Sippel '59 Turner '60 Alfa From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jul 17 14:10:38 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:10:38 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] J&C Electronics Pvt.Ltd Message-ID: Are they looking for a male or a female personal assistant or I have I got the wrong end of the stick? In a message dated 15/07/2009 02:25:04 GMT Daylight Time, pilotrob at msn.com writes: Due to my very busy work schedule, I require assistance on some very important personal issues. I'm looking for a professional personal assistant From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 17 16:11:16 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:11:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fargo - NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200907171311945.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Is that important to ya?.. Yaahh? lots of Scananoovians around here, donja know. Peter C. ==== At 12:51 PM 7/17/2009, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: >hi list - No LBC > >I watched the film 'Fargo' the other evening and was intrigued that the >characters from North Dakota (or was it South) instead of saying yes or yeah >said Yahh. Why did they speak like that? I thought only Scandanavians >speaking English said Yahh. > >Thanks > >Weslake-Monza 1330 From eap2140 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 17 14:20:29 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907171306g1d8d6584s24122569ada32632@mail.gmail.com> References: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907162303q6ff22a40o9e9e1e29884f6ce5@mail.gmail.com> <4A60C072.5070906@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907171306g1d8d6584s24122569ada32632@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <463929.37288.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Did you put it in the front or back? It makes a big difference.... ________________________________ From: Jim Johnson To: Frank Cc: Spridgets Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 1:06:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! I even tried a trick Soave told me about. I put a potato in my bathing suit. That was even worse!! Do you think I should have put it in the front? Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Frank wrote: > Jim Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > > the car's still got it, > > > Nice to know something does.... I had the Midget out and about today. My > luck is a little different than yours. Parked outside a downtown sandwich > shop where I went for lunch. Two 20 somethings pop in and ask who owns that > cool little car. I suck in my gut and in a low rumbling voice say, "Can you > dig it?" One of them informs there is a puddle of oil under it - just > thought you'd like to know. They giggle and leave, Ipods in ear, to catch up > to the two muscle guys outside in football jerseys with a Solaris > convertible. > > They probably have rotten personalities anyway..... > -- > > > Jim your line was all wrong. > When the young ladies come by my Sprite, I just say "Go get your mother" > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at msn.com Fri Jul 17 14:20:43 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:20:43 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] J&C Electronics Pvt.Ltd Message-ID: Actually.... I believe it is J&C Electronics who is attempting to give someone the wrong end of the stick, sexual persuasion of the successfull applicant notwithstanding. CB -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 4:10 PM To: pilotrob at msn.com, bugeye at yahoogroups.com, midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] J&C Electronics Pvt.Ltd Are they looking for a male or a female personal assistant or I have I got the wrong end of the stick? In a message dated 15/07/2009 02:25:04 GMT Daylight Time, pilotrob at msn.com writes: Due to my very busy work schedule, I require assistance on some very important personal issues. I'm looking for a professional personal assistant From gjbranch at comcast.net Fri Jul 17 14:24:20 2009 From: gjbranch at comcast.net (Geoff Branch) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:24:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fargo - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <200907171311945.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907171311945.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4A60DDF4.5020404@comcast.net> Good deeal. Peter Caldwell wrote: > Is that important to ya?.. Yaahh? > > > lots of Scananoovians around here, donja know. > > > Peter C. > > ==== > At 12:51 PM 7/17/2009, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: >> hi list - No LBC >> >> I watched the film 'Fargo' the other evening and was intrigued that the >> characters from North Dakota (or was it South) instead of saying yes >> or yeah >> said Yahh. Why did they speak like that? I thought only Scandanavians >> speaking English said Yahh. >> >> Thanks >> >> Weslake-Monza 1330 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as gjbranch at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 14:33:50 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:33:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fargo - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <200907171311945.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907171311945.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907171333j6e61e22cve72e6330aa9169e9@mail.gmail.com> Yah sure. You betcha! Daniel - its local dialect. Here in the states there are often differences in the way vowels are pronounced from region to region. Not nearly as bad as the UK though.... Back in the 60s I remember sitting in a pub in Rickmansworth just off the A404 and listening to a Scot, a Welshman and a Cornishman argue. None of them could understand the other two!! Oooo Arrr, Iechyd da, Laddie! Mae'n ddrwg da fi i Jim On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Is that important to ya?.. Yaahh? > > > lots of Scananoovians around here, donja know. > > > Peter C. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 14:44:32 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:44:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Link of B19 Blue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <37dc82d40907171344xa867581udd70b97c819402d1@mail.gmail.com> Gotcha. . . Thanks, Kirk On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:57 PM, wrote: > I doubt it. > > An experienced team mechanic told me that one everything is going really > well it's down to a great driver but when things are not going well there is > obviously a problem with the car. > > > > In a message dated 16/07/2009 20:06:38 GMT Daylight Time, > khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: > > Could it, in part be due to having the money to have the best prepped > engine > as well as his driving skills? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jul 17 16:05:04 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: <4A60C072.5070906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <951569.34928.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Frank wrote: Jim your line was all wrong. When the young ladies come by my Sprite, I just say "Go get your mother" Funny you should say that... I was filling up at a gas station a couple of months ago when this really cute young lady got out of her car on the opposite side of the pumps. She asked what kind of car it was, then said "That's a really cute car, I bet my mom would really love it". Oh well, she was too young anyway... - David From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 17 16:17:41 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:17:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: <951569.34928.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4A60C072.5070906@comcast.net>, <951569.34928.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A609615.22873.18305D1@kk7ss.verizon.net> But don't you just hate it when that happens.... ;-( On 17 Jul 2009 at 15:05, David Booker wrote: >> She asked what kind of car it was, then said "That's a >> really cute car, I bet my mom would really love it". Oh well, she was >> too young anyway... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Jul 17 16:55:02 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Re: lenham sprite Message-ID: <321565.14514.qm@web51412.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 7/17/09, HealeyRick wrote: From: HealeyRick Subject: Re: [Spridgets] lenham sprite To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 6:41 PM The Lenham was obviously designed to make you realize how good looking the Speedwell Sprite was. --- On Fri, 7/17/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca wrote: From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Subject: [Spridgets] lenham sprite To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 11:01 AM prototype? http://forsale.classicandperformancecar.com/detail.aspx?ad=9384&d=101 You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Jul 17 17:46:44 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:46:44 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist Message-ID: Reminds me.... Seinfeld....Kramer....the "ASSMAN" episode. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Edward Perez Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:23 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net, Kirk Hargreaves Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist I think Dick Butkus went into the correct profession..... I wouldn't have messed with him! To: Kirk Hargreaves Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:15:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist Once went out with a girl who's gynocologists name was Dr. Bush.B B Never had any choice but to do that as a profession. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 2:16:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist One who has a fascination with the rectum and all that has to do with it. Spends many years in school studying the rectum. Years ago, there was actually a proctologist in San Diego who was listed as a "Dr. Harry Buttes." Pronounced a bit differently. . but I bet he took a lot of teasing. Kirk You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 17 19:34:06 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:34:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Fargo - NO LBC In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907171333j6e61e22cve72e6330aa9169e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <200907171311945.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <43840a7e0907171333j6e61e22cve72e6330aa9169e9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907171834m69ba47eev40b58ec2ac2e5a0@mail.gmail.com> Jim, This is a family list...shouldn't swear! Herb > > Oooo Arrr, Iechyd da, Laddie! > > Mae'n ddrwg da fi i > Jim From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 17 20:06:10 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:06:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC - really hate your car? Message-ID: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> Friday, July 17, 2009 FREEPORT, N.Y. - Most drivers who don't like their car either trade it in or sell it. Police on New York's Long Island said a teenager set his BMW on fire "simply because he hated the car." Nassau County police didn't offer additional details on the alleged motive. Police say a surveillance camera recorded the 18-year-old torching the 1992 BMW on July 10. At the time, it was parked about 2 1/2 feet from his apartment building. The defendant was awaiting a court appearance Friday in First District Court in Hempstead. The charges include arson and reckless endangerment. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 17 21:13:15 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC - really hate your car? In-Reply-To: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> Message-ID: <669885.93312.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I once sold sledgehammer hits on a Pontiac Ventura (mine) for $5 per. I bought the car because my top shredded, it was winter in Albany NY, and the car was cheaper than a new top. The sledge work came in Springtime when I didn't need a top. Ron --- On Fri, 7/17/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > FREEPORT, N.Y. - Most drivers who don't like their car > either trade it in or > sell it. Police on New York's Long Island said a teenager > set his BMW on > fire "simply because he hated the car." Nassau County > police didn't offer > additional details on the alleged motive. > > Police say a surveillance camera recorded the 18-year-old > torching the 1992 > BMW on July 10. At the time, it was parked about 2 1/2 feet > from his > apartment building. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Jul 17 22:04:32 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC - really hate your car? In-Reply-To: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> Message-ID: <03B2632C347944D5B8BEC33C2E6625BE@BASEMENTDELL> I can relate sort of. The '92 was a not so good year for those. Bet he had the 318i. I'm still sorting out the alarm problem with mine. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:06 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC - really hate your car? Friday, July 17, 2009 FREEPORT, N.Y. - Most drivers who don't like their car either trade it in or sell it. Police on New York's Long Island said a teenager set his BMW on fire "simply because he hated the car." Nassau County police didn't offer additional details on the alleged motive. Police say a surveillance camera recorded the 18-year-old torching the 1992 BMW on July 10. At the time, it was parked about 2 1/2 feet from his apartment building. The defendant was awaiting a court appearance Friday in First District Court in Hempstead. The charges include arson and reckless endangerment. From cooper6 at swbell.net Sat Jul 18 04:42:25 2009 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:42:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> Message-ID: <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> Ok, I know this has been spoken about for a while but it is time for me to purchase tires for my Bugeye project - What are people using? And what will work? 165/70's 175/70's Or 185/60's Martin Cooper From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jul 18 06:01:28 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:01:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> Message-ID: American or Chinese mfg.? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Martin Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 3:42 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye Ok, I know this has been spoken about for a while but it is time for me to purchase tires for my Bugeye project - What are people using? And what will work? 165/70's 175/70's Or 185/60's Martin Cooper _______________________________________________ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 06:08:11 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC - really hate your car? In-Reply-To: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> Message-ID: <118126.96873.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Why does it not surprise me that this happened in a town within 5 miles of my house? More people means more crazies too... David Booker Long Island --- On Fri, 7/17/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: From: corvallis at peoplepc.com Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC - really hate your car? To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 9:06 PM Friday, July 17, 2009 FREEPORT, N.Y. - Most drivers who don't like their car either trade it in or sell it. Police on New York's Long Island said a teenager set his BMW on fire "simply because he hated the car." Nassau County police didn't offer additional details on the alleged motive. Police say a surveillance camera recorded the 18-year-old torching the 1992 BMW on July 10. At the time, it was parked about 2 1/2 feet from his apartment building. The defendant was awaiting a court appearance Friday in First District Court in Hempstead. The charges include arson and reckless endangerment. You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 06:13:10 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:13:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> Message-ID: <5f00d9910907180513v3a2b2a1v4cbcc0032f30c610@mail.gmail.com> I ran 175/70s on wire wheels and liked them better than the 185/60s. YMMV and it will depend somewhat on the tire you choose. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat Jul 18 06:47:41 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:47:41 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine In-Reply-To: <7780B2E03002422BBEEC667D73A0CEDA@AndrewHP> References: <7F8D19C542A843D28389628997FEDB56@AndrewHP> <7780B2E03002422BBEEC667D73A0CEDA@AndrewHP> Message-ID: FWIW, It is amazing difficult to separate the 1500 engine from the tranny in the car . There are approximately 1,973 bolts holding the 2 together. Easier access when out of the car. Larry On Jul 15, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > Well folks, > Thanks for the feed back. I sounds like if you want 'em both out, > yank 'em > both out. Glad I asked. > Cheers, > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Payne > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:55 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine > > Ok, this has been addressed many times, but also for many reasons. > I am > pulling the engine and transmission this weekend to get ready to > roll the > car on its side for new floors and sills. I have already pulled > the hood > and the radiator (anyone got a spare radiator for a 76?) and wanted > to > confirm that I should pull engine first then gearbox, rather than as > one > unit. I ask again because there always seems to be a caveat in the > other > answers, where as I am stripping the car. > > > > Thanks, > > Drew > You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 07:41:41 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:41:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> Message-ID: <402188520907180641h257bfa04v76cb0a6fa752096d@mail.gmail.com> > Ok, I know this has been spoken about for a while but it is time for me to > purchase tires for my Bugeye project - > What are people using? And what will work? > 165/70's > 175/70's > Or > 185/60's Martin, What is it that you want the tires to do. Merely keep the bottom of the car from rubbing on the road? Driving to the grocery store and back? Autocrossing? Track days? Highway trips? Each of these tends to have a different answer. David L From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jul 18 07:43:58 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:43:58 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC - really hate your car? Flaming BMW! Message-ID: A simple case of buyer's remorse, quite obviously!!! :): Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jul 18 07:45:06 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:45:06 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC - really hate your car? Flaming BMW! Message-ID: A simple case of buyer's remorse, quite obviously! :):) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jul 18 07:51:32 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:51:32 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye Message-ID: They'll all "work", but assuming the stock 3.5" diam. wheels, you'll do better with the 70's. Matter of fact, you'd do better with a slimmer '78 or '80. More tire directly under the rim ...less "squishy" on turns and more crisp initial turn-in, all else being equal. And if you're using the stock 948cc motor, more "pep" with the less draggy, more slim tire and better in the rain, too.....again, all else being equal. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From bighealey at charter.net Sat Jul 18 08:01:03 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:01:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <0DF672C3A581436D96F79FDA74F74137@TRACY> Larry, You forgot to mention the clutch line, the reverse light switch connections, and tach. You also approximate low on number of bolts. Pull as one ! Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Macy Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 5:48 AM To: Andrew Payne Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine FWIW, It is amazing difficult to separate the 1500 engine from the tranny in the car . There are approximately 1,973 bolts holding the 2 together. Easier access when out of the car. Larry On Jul 15, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > Well folks, > Thanks for the feed back. I sounds like if you want 'em both out, > yank 'em > both out. Glad I asked. > Cheers, > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Payne > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:55 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Pulling the engine > > Ok, this has been addressed many times, but also for many reasons. > I am > pulling the engine and transmission this weekend to get ready to > roll the > car on its side for new floors and sills. I have already pulled > the hood > and the radiator (anyone got a spare radiator for a 76?) and wanted > to > confirm that I should pull engine first then gearbox, rather than as > one > unit. I ask again because there always seems to be a caveat in the > other > answers, where as I am stripping the car. > > > > Thanks, > > Drew > You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 08:19:14 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:19:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907180719u43373d63pe359c88cffe4030e@mail.gmail.com> > They'll all "work", but assuming the stock > 3.5" diam. wheels, you'll do better with the 70's. Matter of fact, you'd do better with a slimmer '78 or '80. Cap'n, Perhaps your tires are smaller than a classic Mini's, but mine are 13" in diameter and 3.5" wide... ;-) David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 08:34:46 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:34:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <496BE5097FE94978A0936CFCC563DED8@Home> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> <402188520907180641h257bfa04v76cb0a6fa752096d@mail.gmail.com> <496BE5097FE94978A0936CFCC563DED8@Home> Message-ID: <402188520907180734h6cf5a0fas364dc778ea838cfa@mail.gmail.com> >> What is it that you want the tires to do. > A thoughtful analysis of this would be really useful (put somewhere that can > be easily accessed when this question comes up again. And again.). Yes and no. If we did create a wiki like that, it would tend to stifle the social interactions we all enjoy (at least usually) on this list and the other forums we espouse. There is so much more to it than the mere transfer of factual (or not so) information and opinions (plenty of those!); the moral support is of great value and has indubitably been a contributing factor to the completion of many Spridget projects. Besides, whose opinion are you going to sanctify in the wiki? David L From thcollin at mtu.edu Sat Jul 18 09:06:25 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:06:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Walter Cronkite - Austin Healey Message-ID: <7ll0se$6nadku@email.mtu.edu> This video made me think; "What if Walter Cronkite had reported on Ron Soave (and other listers) the racer?" Godspeed, Walter. Iconic CBS newsman talks about sports cars and racing from the cockpit of an Austin-Healey and the pits in Monte Carlo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bySosXZHnfI or http://tinyurl.com/lqwpa7 Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Jul 18 09:44:01 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:44:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] mis-fire quickie... Message-ID: <4A618B51.20765.5A8028@kk7ss.verizon.net> Could an occasional mis-fire at higher rpm's - once or twice every second or so at 3,000 rpm, not regular - be caused by bad gap or poor contact surface in the points in the dizzy?? I can see the stutter in the timing light when the inductive pickup is placed on the HT lead of the coil. I'd like to get an opinion before I go ahead and pull the dizzy.. Thanks -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jul 18 09:56:21 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:56:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] mis-fire quickie... In-Reply-To: <4A618B51.20765.5A8028@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A618B51.20765.5A8028@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <17EF9E78EDBA4AEA989E65D5DF006AF4@spider> Start simplest, cheapest and work up. Check plugs, plug wires. Wires can sometimes be checked at night, outside in the dark for corona and sparks jumping. ...bill in oregon ================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:44 AM To: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] mis-fire quickie... Could an occasional mis-fire at higher rpm's - once or twice every second or so at 3,000 rpm, not regular - be caused by bad gap or poor contact surface in the points in the dizzy?? I can see the stutter in the timing light when the inductive pickup is placed on the HT lead of the coil. I'd like to get an opinion before I go ahead and pull the dizzy.. Thanks -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA From cooper6 at swbell.net Sat Jul 18 12:35:24 2009 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:35:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <402188520907180641h257bfa04v76cb0a6fa752096d@mail.gmail.com> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> <402188520907180641h257bfa04v76cb0a6fa752096d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17B40564983848DAA6EBFD2EA4F6FEF5@cooper> Sorry should have mentioned going to use 5.5 inch wide rims - some highway but mostly driving around town etc. -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:72spridget at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 08:42 To: Martin; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye > Ok, I know this has been spoken about for a while but it is time for me to > purchase tires for my Bugeye project - > What are people using? And what will work? > 165/70's > 175/70's > Or > 185/60's Martin, What is it that you want the tires to do. Merely keep the bottom of the car from rubbing on the road? Driving to the grocery store and back? Autocrossing? Track days? Highway trips? Each of these tends to have a different answer. David L From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Jul 18 13:05:55 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:05:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another dizzy question... Message-ID: <4A61BAA3.13943.113590D@kk7ss.verizon.net> I just took off the cap and rotor (before the emp goes over 100*F... I see two sets of points, They are 180* out from each other..i.e. one set is at 12:00 o'clock, the other set is at 6:00 o'clock. Is this a standard for a dual point distributor on a 4-cyl engine?? I'm gonna have to pull it... I can't get a 12 thou feeler guage between the points ;-(( and there's no room to do it while it's in the block ;-(( -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From twobees at sprynet.com Sat Jul 18 14:22:23 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:22:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Walter Cronkite - Austin Healey Message-ID: <003301ca07e5$764fffe0$6401a8c0@normoffice> Tim: That clip is priceless! Here I am watching the ALMS race from Lime Rock & then going back in time to LRP without guardrails, curbing, chicanes, etc. THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES. Norm Sippel '59 Turner From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Jul 18 18:09:53 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:09:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another dizzy question... In-Reply-To: <402188520907181417p28950b38x4a9e92c8067df79a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A61BAA3.13943.113590D@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <4A61D123.9341.16B3CC8@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <402188520907181417p28950b38x4a9e92c8067df79a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6201E1.22855.328A36@kk7ss.verizon.net> I haven't pulled the Mallory Dual-Point dizzy yet (101*F outside - much hotter in the garage!!). -- maybe tomorrow... I managed to measure the gap on the 'top' set of points - it's set at 0.012" (DPO)?? WTF?? Is there any reason why some PO would set it at 0.012" instead of the factory recommended 0.022" ?? I'm gonna have to pull the dizzy to get to the 'bottom' set -- not enough room for a light AND my fingers AND my eyes AND a hex-wrench ;-(( If there are no replies I'm going to set both points at 0.022" -- got no dwell meter ;-(( -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 18:56:53 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:56:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Slave Cyl - Brit Parts Northwest Message-ID: <37dc82d40907181756r7663a60cm84404ca121d3315e@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to whoever it was on the list that turned me on to Brit Parts Northwest. The slave cyl was delivered right away (along with UPS tracking info on my email). It was also priced less than the Moss equivalent. (Interesting, the box indicated that it was made in Italy). I bled it by pushing the piston back to remove all of the air (using my Gunson Eze Bleed) and it is working out very well. I will be sending my old unit off to "Joe" get it sleeved. (Thanks to Gerard Chateauvieux regarding Joe's work on doing re-sleeves that will last for years and years. . virtually never wear out). Just wanted to put in a good word for Brit Parts Northwest. Also, when I first put in the order I got one of the numbers on my credit card incorrect. . BPNW called me right away to get it straightened out. Great customer service. Kirk 59 Frog From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 18 19:28:04 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:28:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type question.. Message-ID: <814B8906-25BE-4F74-82E1-BEF5013CA5EA@comcast.net> Hi all, I am installing some Wilwood calipers and have a question: As the calipers are not "handed" and have ports top and bottom on both sides, is it better to have the brake fill from the bottom or the top? As I see it, filling from the bottom means less air trapped in the line *BUT* it also means that any water in the system will settle in the metal line and rust it away while filling it from the top might trap air but not gonna trap any water. So what say you all? Lester From jdinnis at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 19:30:44 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:30:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: <814B8906-25BE-4F74-82E1-BEF5013CA5EA@comcast.net> References: <814B8906-25BE-4F74-82E1-BEF5013CA5EA@comcast.net> Message-ID: I think you want to fill from the bottom, so you bleeder is on top. Not sure you could ever get all the air out if the bleeder is on the bottom. All of my factory calipers fill from the bottom. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Lester wrote: > Hi all, > > I am installing some Wilwood calipers and have a question: > > As the calipers are not "handed" and have ports top and bottom on both > sides, is it better to have the brake fill from the bottom or the top? > > As I see it, filling from the bottom means less air trapped in the line > *BUT* it also means that any water in the system will settle in the metal > line and rust it away while filling it from the top might trap air but not > gonna trap any water. > > So what say you all? > > Lester > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jul 18 19:36:03 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:36:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: <814B8906-25BE-4F74-82E1-BEF5013CA5EA@comcast.net> References: <814B8906-25BE-4F74-82E1-BEF5013CA5EA@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9F7B07CD54C14A28B9322FC397532953@spider> Fill at bottom; bleed at top. Moisture will happen; you can't avoid it. If you're racing, it'll be a negligible problem. Takes years for it to build up in stock applications. ...bill in oregon ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:28 PM To: Spridget Group Chat; vSAAB at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type question.. Hi all, I am installing some Wilwood calipers and have a question: As the calipers are not "handed" and have ports top and bottom on both sides, is it better to have the brake fill from the bottom or the top? As I see it, filling from the bottom means less air trapped in the line *BUT* it also means that any water in the system will settle in the metal line and rust it away while filling it from the top might trap air but not gonna trap any water. So what say you all? Lester _______________________________________________ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Jul 18 20:00:37 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:00:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: <9F7B07CD54C14A28B9322FC397532953@spider> References: <814B8906-25BE-4F74-82E1-BEF5013CA5EA@comcast.net> <9F7B07CD54C14A28B9322FC397532953@spider> Message-ID: <4620C8A9-EEA9-416E-8791-99ADE3B53B51@comcast.net> Got it. I'm not used to having options, this has fill/bleed nipples at 4 corners. This one is not for racing, but I figure that racers have gone through this before.. Lester On Jul 18, 2009, at 8:36 PM, wrote: > Fill at bottom; bleed at top. > Moisture will happen; you can't avoid it. > If you're racing, it'll be a negligible problem. > Takes years for it to build up in stock applications. ...bill in > oregon > ========================================================= > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:28 PM > To: Spridget Group Chat; vSAAB at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Spridgets] Racer type question.. > > Hi all, > > I am installing some Wilwood calipers and have a question: > > As the calipers are not "handed" and have ports top and bottom on both > sides, is it better to have the brake fill from the bottom or the top? > > As I see it, filling from the bottom means less air trapped in the > line *BUT* it also means that any water in the system will settle in > the metal line and rust it away while filling it from the top might > trap air but not gonna trap any water. > > So what say you all? > > Lester > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 18 21:23:34 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:23:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> Message-ID: <4A6291B6.7020108@comcast.net> I am running 175/70s on all 4 Sprites, Bugeyes, and a square arch, I think they are a nice all around good looking tire. And for $41 + or - a buck at tire rack.com, they are a good deal. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET Sat Jul 18 21:40:32 2009 From: 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET (63ahbj7) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:40:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <4A6291B6.7020108@comcast.net> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> <4A6291B6.7020108@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A6295B0.6010706@COMCAST.NET> From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 18 21:48:28 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:48:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle Message-ID: <4A62978C.4020801@comcast.net> Frankie the 5th just took possession of his first classic British vehicle. A 1972 genuine English pram (aka baby buggy) Back in 72, my soon to be boss was stationed in England, his wife had a girl, she bought a cool looking baby buggy while over there. His 2nd child also used that pram. Flash forward to 1979, I have a son, my boss gives me the pram since his girls have out grown it, now they are 7 and 5. We use it for our kids until about 1983, now it's an aging baby buggy. We gave it to relatives who used it and put it away until now. We forgot about it, they gave it back today, a rusty fadded buggy. So Diane bleached the frilly lace and repainted the snaps white, she cleaned the Wilton Wool coach and I spent the day brass wheeling and steel wooling all the chrome and each of the 14 spoke wire wheels and bleaching the solid rubber white tires. This thing came out stunning! All chrome wheels, frame, handle, brake bars etc and a blue coach with white frilly. It beats the heck out of the chinese made plastic POS the kids tried to use. This thing has chrome fenders over wire wheels! Not plastic molded tires on plastic wheels with no fenders. Oh there are no warning labels plastered all over the pram in 4 languages and I guess the kid could get his fingers pinched if he sticks them in the folding metal frame, or he could get sick if he gnaws the chrome off the handle but it will not collapse if he jumps around, the tires will not wear out after a few trips to Grandpa's house, and there is not a spec of plastic on the thing anywhere. Daughter in law loves it, all the neighbors saw it and the new born today, the ladies admired the baby, the men admired the coach. Now they can put the "new" buggy where it belongs, in the trash with the rest of the chinese crap and maybe when my son becomes a granddad, he can clean up the pram for his grandkid. I know it will last another 37 years. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Jul 18 21:53:35 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:53:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle In-Reply-To: <4A62978C.4020801@comcast.net> References: <4A62978C.4020801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A62364F.21025.FF568D@kk7ss.verizon.net> As a baby, back in 1938, I was in one of those prams and got fascinated by the buckle, so I stuck my tongue in it which then was pierced by the hook. The local doctor freed me at no charge. And nobody sued anybody !! On 18 Jul 2009 at 23:48, Frank wrote: >> Oh there are no warning labels plastered all over the pram in 4 >> languages and I guess the kid could get his fingers pinched if he >> sticks them in the folding metal frame, or he could get sick if he >> gnaws the chrome off the handle but it will not collapse if he jumps >> around, the tires will not wear out after a few trips to Grandpa's >> house, and there is not a spec of plastic on the thing anywhere. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jul 18 21:58:55 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop@justbrits.com) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:58:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <4A6295B0.6010706@COMCAST.NET> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> <4A6291B6.7020108@comcast.net> <4A6295B0.6010706@COMCAST.NET> Message-ID: <4A6299FF.4040603@justbrits.com> <> MUST be Made in China at that price !?!?!?!? Anon From 72spridget at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 22:04:45 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:04:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: <4A6299FF.4040603@justbrits.com> References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider> <318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper> <4A6291B6.7020108@comcast.net> <4A6295B0.6010706@COMCAST.NET> <4A6299FF.4040603@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <402188520907182104g2cd6d1cqf898cac688060f79@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Shop at justbrits.com wrote: > <> > MUST be Made in China at that price !?!?!?!? > Anon It IS alive... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jul 18 22:22:15 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:22:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye References: <11FBAE0D9FDB42419ED323DDA1CE87D2@spider><318E72ED42E647FDA3AEBE250A9924AF@cooper><4A6291B6.7020108@comcast.net> <4A6295B0.6010706@COMCAST.NET> <4A6299FF.4040603@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <3040EDC57BE04A2086F2243D0556511F@Larry> Oh, damn, he's back. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shop at justbrits.com" To: Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye <> MUST be Made in China at that price !?!?!?!? Anon You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 23:06:29 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 Message-ID: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Words cannot express my appreciation to all the guys that showed up to help me get my engine installed and fired up. I so appreciate them taking the time to share their knowledge and skill when it comes to helping out a fellow Spridget enthusiast. I would also like to thank the wives of these guys for allowing it to happen. I know it is a sacrifice on their part also to give up a great weekend day for us to accomplish what we were able to today. My wife is currently at the Casino after spending a long, hard, day with the kids! Bob Walker Bill M Bill L and his son Andrew Mike Burkhart Mike Shurtz and his son Travis Michael (never got your last name!) Chris Goalby(from Seattle with his BE) Rich Ball Phil Jones Thanks for stopping by: John and Marian Colvin Chris Curlott I'm pretty tired now, so please forgive me if I missed anyone. I'll post some pics tomorrow. As for the work accomplished: We were able to build my 1275 from a short block to a complete engine. Mated it to the transmission, installed them into the car, and fired it up. The Lion's share of the work has been completed. I only have a few small tasks to complete until it's ready for it's maiden voyage. Keep in mind that I have never been able to drive this car, so I'm pretty excited to be at this stage in the restoration. It's all thanks to a fantastic group of guys who are passionate enough about these great little cars to help a fellow enthusiast out. Paul A, we missed you and hope all is well..... Ed and Amanda Perez From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jul 18 23:29:22 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:29:22 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye Message-ID: "55" rims" .....then 175/70's would be my personal choice. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jul 18 23:38:24 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:38:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle In-Reply-To: <4A62978C.4020801@comcast.net> References: <4A62978C.4020801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907182238v29890ae5o19c4f02d755971b7@mail.gmail.com> Gawd that brings back memories!! Americans don't know what they are missing with a real English "pram" (short for "perambulator"). They are infinitely better than any baby buggy ever sold in this country. Post a pic for us all, Grandpa! Cheers!! Jim P.S. Good to talk to ya the other day! On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Frank wrote: > Frankie the 5th just took possession of his first classic British vehicle. > A 1972 genuine English pram (aka baby buggy) > Back in 72, my soon to be boss was stationed in England, his wife had a > girl, she bought a cool looking baby buggy while over there. > His 2nd child also used that pram. Flash forward to 1979, I have a son, my > boss gives me the pram since his girls have out grown it, now they are 7 and > 5. > We use it for our kids until about 1983, now it's an aging baby buggy. > We gave it to relatives who used it and put it away until now. We forgot > about it, they gave it back today, a rusty fadded buggy. > So Diane bleached the frilly lace and repainted the snaps white, she > cleaned the Wilton Wool coach and I spent the day brass wheeling and steel > wooling all the chrome and each of the 14 spoke wire wheels and bleaching > the solid rubber white tires. > This thing came out stunning! All chrome wheels, frame, handle, brake bars > etc and a blue coach with white frilly. > It beats the heck out of the chinese made plastic POS the kids tried to > use. > This thing has chrome fenders over wire wheels! Not plastic molded tires on > plastic wheels with no fenders. > Oh there are no warning labels plastered all over the pram in 4 languages > and I guess the kid could get his fingers pinched if he sticks them in the > folding metal frame, or he could get sick if he gnaws the chrome off the > handle but it will not collapse if he jumps around, the tires will not wear > out after a few trips to Grandpa's house, and there is not a spec of plastic > on the thing anywhere. > Daughter in law loves it, all the neighbors saw it and the new born today, > the ladies admired the baby, the men admired the coach. > Now they can put the "new" buggy where it belongs, in the trash with the > rest of the chinese crap and maybe when my son becomes a granddad, he can > clean up the pram for his grandkid. I know it will last another 37 years. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 00:02:05 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:02:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907182302y2dae9cf2nd47d684bb3f53850@mail.gmail.com> Now THAT's the spirit!! Sounds to me like the OSHIT project is gradually becoming nation wide!! Who's gonna do one in Oz or the UK?? Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > Words cannot express my appreciation to all the guys that showed up to help > me get my engine installed and fired up. I so appreciate them taking the > time to share their knowledge and skill when it comes to helping out a > fellow Spridget enthusiast. I would also like to thank the wives of these > guys for allowing it to happen. I know it is a sacrifice on their part > also to give up a great weekend day for us to accomplish what we were able > to today. My wife is currently at the Casino after spending a long, hard, > day with the kids! > > Bob Walker > Bill M > Bill L and his son Andrew > Mike Burkhart > Mike Shurtz and his son Travis > Michael (never got your last name!) > Chris Goalby(from Seattle with his BE) > Rich Ball > Phil Jones > > Thanks for stopping by: > > John and Marian Colvin > Chris Curlott > > I'm pretty tired now, so please forgive me if I missed anyone. I'll post > some pics tomorrow. > > As for the work accomplished: > > We were able to build my 1275 from a short block to a complete engine. > Mated it to the transmission, installed them into the car, and fired it up. > The Lion's share of the work has been completed. I only have a few small > tasks to complete until it's ready for it's maiden voyage. Keep in mind > that I have never been able to drive this car, so I'm pretty excited to be > at this stage in the restoration. It's all thanks to a fantastic group of > guys who are passionate enough about these great little cars to help a > fellow enthusiast out. > > Paul A, we missed you and hope all is well..... > > Ed and Amanda Perez > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 00:10:29 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 01:10:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0907182310y4409db97ibd53af7ef152cbbd@mail.gmail.com> I ordered a dwell tach because I am suspecting my tach on the 68 Midget is in error. It arrived today. Instructions on it show a scale for 8 cylinders and one for 6 cylinders. Nothing for a 4 cylinder. WTF? Can I use this reliably on the 1275 or have I just wasted the price of the damned thing? -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From philip.s.jones at comcast.net Sun Jul 19 00:30:16 2009 From: philip.s.jones at comcast.net (Phil Jones) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2101123749.3148041247985016236.JavaMail.root@sz0021a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> It was a good time!B We made lots of progress on Ed's car, took care of a few things on Rich's car, and one thing on mine.B Plus drank some beer and had some good barbeque (courtesy of Ed, our host).B I love learning about our cars and talking with these crazy passionate people.B About cars.B B Weather was perfect, too.B Can't beat that day with aB stick! Thanks Ed! Phil ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:06:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Edward Perez < eap2140 at yahoo.com > Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Cc: jm.colvin at verizon.net , mshurtz at yahoo.com Message-ID: < 494173.17662.qm at web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Words cannot express my appreciation to all the guys that showed up to help me get my engine installed and fired up. B I so appreciate them taking the time to share their knowledge and skill when it comes to helping out a fellow Spridget enthusiast. B I would also like to thank the wives of these guys for allowing it to happen. B I know it is a sacrifice on their part also to give up a great weekend day for us to accomplish what we were able to today. B My wife is currently at the Casino after spending a long, hard, day with the kids! *snip* Paul A, we missed you and hope all is well..... Ed and Amanda Perez From nases at verizon.net Sun Jul 19 05:09:14 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:09:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907182310y4409db97ibd53af7ef152cbbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0907182310y4409db97ibd53af7ef152cbbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jim, I believe you just double the 8 cyl scale for a 4 cyl reading. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jul 19, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > I ordered a dwell tach because I am suspecting my tach on the 68 > Midget is > in error. It arrived today. Instructions on it show a scale for 8 > cylinders > and one for 6 cylinders. Nothing for a 4 cylinder. WTF? Can I use > this > reliably on the 1275 or have I just wasted the price of the damned > thing? > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and > I am > not > sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 19 06:30:27 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:30:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907182238v29890ae5o19c4f02d755971b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A62978C.4020801@comcast.net> <43840a7e0907182238v29890ae5o19c4f02d755971b7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_transport ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:38 PM To: Frank Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle Gawd that brings back memories!! Americans don't know what they are missing with a real English "pram" (short for "perambulator"). They are infinitely better than any baby buggy ever sold in this country. Post a pic for us all, Grandpa! Cheers!! Jim P.S. Good to talk to ya the other day! From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 19 06:35:59 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:35:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. Message-ID: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> Well put. And I still believe that the silicon brake fluids are not hydroscopic. Thus moisture that will get in there, sinks to the low places and rusts whatever it is in contact with; sooner than with DOT 3 fluid. ...bill in oregon ================================================= -----Original Message----- From: GUY DAY [mailto:grday at btinternet.com] Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:06 AM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racer type question.. I'm with Bill below but I would add one of the reasons for any water build up (It comes IN the fluid hydroscopically) is not changing the fluid every couple of years. Old fluid is old because it has absorbed airborne moisture until it concentrates sufficiently to distil from the fluid as puddles in the line. The moisture content turning to a gas by heating is the reason for true brake fade - as opposed to burning the braking material. I don't particularly want to open up another 'can of worms' but IF you are having a new braking system (that is everything in the brake system) and one that is not contaminated with ordinary braking fluid it is a good time to change over to silicon fluid. If it is just new calipers and nothing else don't do it. If the seals have been lubricated with ordinary fluid prior to assembly, don't do it. Guy R Day From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Jul 19 06:58:07 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:58:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... Message-ID: <55f601ca0870$8ffaad10$0168010a@mail2world.com> I got an old dwell/tach from my dad, and that's exactly what I do - double the 8 cyl reading. Works great. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Phil Nase [nases at verizon.net] >Sent: 7/19/2009 7:10:14 AM >To: bmwwxman at gmail.com >Cc: >spridgets at autox.team.net;midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com;Sprite-MidgetClub @yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... > >Jim, I believe you just double the 8 cyl scale for a 4 cyl reading. > >Phil Nase >Quakertown, PA >http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > >On Jul 19, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> I ordered a dwell tach because I am suspecting my tach on the 68 >> Midget is >> in error. It arrived today. Instructions on it show a scale for 8 >> cylinders >> and one for 6 cylinders. Nothing for a 4 cylinder. WTF? Can I use >> this >> reliably on the 1275 or have I just wasted the price of the damned >> thing? >> -- >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and >> I am >> not >> sure about the former. - Albert Einstein >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 19 07:31:20 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:31:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> References: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> Message-ID: <5298210D-4054-49B8-ACD6-B0609D862C9C@comcast.net> Those are my thoughts as well ,BUT, this is for a '66 XKE and the XKE guys are dead set against silicone because of the vacuum assist in the system, they frequently diagnose power booster failure by the smoke exiting the exhaust and apparently, when silicone brake fluid goes through the combustion process they believe it forms silicone dioxide and it eats the rings/bores very quickly whereas traditional fluid is partially combusted with no other ill effects. Lester > > From: GUY DAY [mailto:grday at btinternet.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 4:06 AM > To: corvallis at peoplepc.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racer type question.. > > I'm with Bill below but I would add one of the reasons for any water > build > up (It comes IN the fluid hydroscopically) is not changing the fluid > every > couple of years. Old fluid is old because it has absorbed airborne > moisture > > until it concentrates sufficiently to distil from the fluid as > puddles in > the line. The moisture content turning to a gas by heating is the > reason > for true brake fade - as opposed to burning the braking material. > I don't particularly want to open up another 'can of worms' but IF > you are > having a new braking system (that is everything in the brake system) > and one > > that is not contaminated with ordinary braking fluid it is a good > time to > change over to silicon fluid. If it is just new calipers and > nothing else > don't do it. If the seals have been lubricated with ordinary fluid > prior to > > assembly, don't do it. > > Guy R Day > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 19 07:48:21 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:48:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: <5298210D-4054-49B8-ACD6-B0609D862C9C@comcast.net> References: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> <5298210D-4054-49B8-ACD6-B0609D862C9C@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ah ha. Those Jag guys. Tend to be very detail oriented. I would listen to what they say. The site I look at is http://forums.jag-lovers.org/lg.php3 .bill in oregon =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:31 AM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. Those are my thoughts as well ,BUT, this is for a '66 XKE and the XKE guys are dead set against silicone because of the vacuum assist in the system, they frequently diagnose power booster failure by the smoke exiting the exhaust and apparently, when silicone brake fluid goes through the combustion process they believe it forms silicone dioxide and it eats the rings/bores very quickly whereas traditional fluid is partially combusted with no other ill effects. Lester From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Jul 19 08:46:11 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:46:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: References: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> <5298210D-4054-49B8-ACD6-B0609D862C9C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <92BD1CF4-8463-4341-A182-702F52CC5CD5@comcast.net> .. it's where I live. ;-) Lester On Jul 19, 2009, at 8:48 AM, wrote: > Ah ha. Those Jag guys. Tend to be very detail oriented. > > I would listen to what they say. The site I look at is > > http://forums.jag-lovers.org/lg.php3 > > .bill in oregon > > =========================================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 6:31 AM > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. > > > > Those are my thoughts as well ,BUT, this is for a '66 XKE and the XKE > > guys are dead set against silicone because of the vacuum assist in > > the system, they frequently diagnose power booster failure by the > > smoke exiting the exhaust and apparently, when silicone brake fluid > > goes through the combustion process they believe it forms silicone > > dioxide and it eats the rings/bores very quickly whereas traditional > > fluid is partially combusted with no other ill effects. > > > > Lester > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jul 19 09:23:16 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:23:16 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Volt meter Message-ID: <6E84850D19BA4B83A23DA038054B53D9@Home> I lost power to one side of my tail lights; it turned out to be a bad fuse that had not melted, just lost contact internally somewhere. While tracing power, I got an 11 v reading from the working side to ground and a 19 v reading from the dead wire to ground. How does a volt meter get any reading at all from a dead circuit? Is it coming back from the ground? Then why 19 v? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 09:36:56 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:36:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... In-Reply-To: <55f601ca0870$8ffaad10$0168010a@mail2world.com> References: <55f601ca0870$8ffaad10$0168010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907190836u6df96379o9336427358bbb23d@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to all... I figured that a 4 cylinder completes its cycle twice for each cycle of the 8 cylinder so multiply by two makes sense. I just wanted to confirm it and you've all done that for me!... Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:58 AM, Chris King wrote: > I got an old dwell/tach from my dad, and that's exactly what I do - double > the 8 cyl reading. Works great. > > -=Chris > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > > <-----Original Message-----> > >From: Phil Nase [nases at verizon.net] > >Sent: 7/19/2009 7:10:14 AM > >To: bmwwxman at gmail.com > >Cc: > >spridgets at autox.team.net;midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; > Sprite-MidgetClub at yahoogroups.com > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... > > > >Jim, I believe you just double the 8 cyl scale for a 4 cyl reading. > > > >Phil Nase > >Quakertown, PA > >http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ > > > >On Jul 19, 2009, at 2:10 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > >> I ordered a dwell tach because I am suspecting my tach on the 68 > >> Midget is > >> in error. It arrived today. Instructions on it show a scale for 8 > >> cylinders > >> and one for 6 cylinders. Nothing for a 4 cylinder. WTF? Can I use > >> this > >> reliably on the 1275 or have I just wasted the price of the damned > >> thing? > >> -- > >> Cheers!! > >> Jim > >> Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and > >> I am > >> not > >> sure about the former. - Albert Einstein > >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > > > >http://www.team.net/archive > > > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > >. > > > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 19 09:56:54 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:56:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Volt meter In-Reply-To: <6E84850D19BA4B83A23DA038054B53D9@Home> References: <6E84850D19BA4B83A23DA038054B53D9@Home> Message-ID: If the car is not running, the battery is the only place you could get voltage. 12.8 volts would be a ballpark guess. If you have a battery charger in there, it would be higher ...but not 19. Same with the alternator running. Sometimes I misread my digital volt meter; 19mv looks like 19v. You can get 19 milli-volts off of a lemon (the fruit kimd.) If other voltages appear where you don't expect them, you have a floating ground. This is where voltage is working around via other circuits to find the battery. This happens with older connections in any car. ...bill in oregon ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:23 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Volt meter I lost power to one side of my tail lights; it turned out to be a bad fuse that had not melted, just lost contact internally somewhere. While tracing power, I got an 11 v reading from the working side to ground and a 19 v reading from the dead wire to ground. How does a volt meter get any reading at all from a dead circuit? Is it coming back from the ground? Then why 19 v? Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY_______________________________________________ From 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET Sun Jul 19 10:00:04 2009 From: 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET (63ahbj7) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:00:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> References: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> Message-ID: <4A634304.6040702@COMCAST.NET> <> AGREED, Bill (in OR)!!! I tried silicrap in my Big Healey and Wife's MGB. I NEVER could get the air (suspended) bubbles out with the results being soft pedal all around. Drained, flushed with alky and filled with Castrol GT/LMA and immediately got nice firm pedals which STAYED that way. Full change out every other year and never any problems !!! Me From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jul 19 10:04:02 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop@justbrits.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:04:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907182310y4409db97ibd53af7ef152cbbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0907182310y4409db97ibd53af7ef152cbbd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6343F2.2020106@justbrits.com> <> As others have said, just double the 8 cyl. readings. BUT, why not send it back and get one WITH the 4cyl. setting ??? That way you do NOT have to remember how to use it and then have to ask the List(s) again?!?!? From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 10:18:17 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <863894.80208.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Not only was a perambulated in one, but I got in a boatload of trouble when I was 6 years old and me and Scott Galvin dismantled it to use parts for a downhill racer for the first annual "Pam Drive Grand Prix" in 1972. Prams had the best wheels for go carts with proper axle bearings - it was always serious when you were able to find "carriage wheels" for your racer. I guess old habits die hard, Ron --- On Sun, 7/19/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 7:30 AM > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_transport > > > > ============================================== > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Jim Johnson > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:38 PM > To: Frank > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle > > > > Gawd that brings back memories!! Americans don't know > what they are missing > > with a real English "pram" (short for > "perambulator"). They are infinitely > > better than any baby buggy ever sold in this country. Post > a pic for us all, From cooper6 at swbell.net Sun Jul 19 10:30:02 2009 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:30:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would like to thank all who answered. Seems the best way to go it with the 175/70's And Sears is having Bridgestone sales The Bridgestone Weather force Plus tire P175/70SR13 at $32.99 per tire. If anyone does not think these are the tires to use Please advice. Martin Cooper -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:pilotrob at webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 00:29 To: Martin; 'David Lieb'; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye "55" rims" .....then 175/70's would be my personal choice. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sun Jul 19 10:36:00 2009 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <400070225.3133931248021360650.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Sounds good to me--I am looking at these too for my '79. I have 175x70R13 tires on it now. I do get a rub when I am pushing the car around the shop and turn the steering severely, but have NEVER had a rub while driving. --David C. AVOID CUTTING YOURSELF WHEN SLICING VEGETABLES BY GETTING SOMEONE ELSE TO HOLD THE VEGETABLES WHILE YOU CHOP. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin" To: "Robert E. Shlafer" , "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com>, "Spridgets" , "Frank" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:30:02 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye I would like to thank all who answered. Seems the best way to go it with the 175/70's And Sears is having Bridgestone sales The Bridgestone Weather force Plus tire P175/70SR13 at $32.99 per tire. If anyone does not think these are the tires to use Please advice. Martin Cooper -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Shlafer [mailto:pilotrob at webtv.net] Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 00:29 To: Martin; 'David Lieb'; 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye "55" rims" .....then 175/70's would be my personal choice. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 19 10:50:14 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:50:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tire time for my Bugeye In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > 175/70's HTR 200's are pretty good at 40psi. I think they're around $45 each. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sun Jul 19 11:59:47 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:59:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] collection of BL TV ads Message-ID: <581193A11B2742059DC355B63C241856@AndrewHP> Here' a neat Sunday time passer. 16 TV spots for LBCs etc. http://jalopnik.com/5317835/jalopniks-16-favorite-british-leyland-and-rootes -group-tv-commercials Drew From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 12:34:08 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Message-ID: <976433.71616.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Last night, downtown Elkhart Lake Concours show...my buddy Jeff Porasik (an American muscle car lover with wildy divergent tastes from mine) upon seeing a beautiful Ferrari 330 GTC - "It looks just like Don Shelton's Simca 1200." It wasn't hard to pick the owner out of the crowd at that point. Ron From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun Jul 19 12:47:24 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:47:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mallory dizzy... Message-ID: <4A6307CC.18044.FF6A1C@kk7ss.verizon.net> (tongue firmly in cheek!) It's amazing how much effect point gap has on timing.... Duh! Primary set was at about 0.012" Secondary set had "almost" zero gap... Only The Great Prince of Darkness (aka Lucas) knows how the Beast was even running -- sorta !! Now I got to buy/beg/borrow a dwell meter... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 19 12:56:03 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:56:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <976433.71616.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <976433.71616.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ferrari_330_gtc.jpg http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MHV_Simca_1200_Coup%C3%A9_02.jpg Well, some Ferrari owners need to be taken down a notch on a regular basis; builds character. .bill in Oregon -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:34 AM To: Spridgets; team-thicko at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Last night, downtown Elkhart Lake Concours show...my buddy Jeff Porasik (an American muscle car lover with wildly divergent tastes from mine) upon seeing a beautiful Ferrari 330 GTC - "It looks just like Don Shelton's Simca 1200." It wasn't hard to pick the owner out of the crowd at that point. Ron _______________________________________________ From pchast at francomm.com Sun Jul 19 16:01:43 2009 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:01:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mallory dizzy... In-Reply-To: <4A6307CC.18044.FF6A1C@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A6307CC.18044.FF6A1C@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: I've got one here in NYS if you want to come and get it......... Kidding asside, call a local auto parts house and see if there is one in their 'rental tools'. Pete On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:47:24 -0700, Dave G. wrote: > > (tongue firmly in cheek!) > It's amazing how much effect point gap has on timing.... Duh! > > Primary set was at about 0.012" > Secondary set had "almost" zero gap... > > Only The Great Prince of Darkness (aka Lucas) knows how the Beast was > even running -- sorta !! > > Now I got to buy/beg/borrow a dwell meter... > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pchast at francomm.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun Jul 19 13:20:21 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:20:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Datsun Yoke U Joints Message-ID: I was cleaning up some of my Datsun tranny parts and thought I would remove the piece of drive shaft still attached to the yoke. The U joints are staked on with a ring instead of using a C clip. How do these come apart, do I need to try to break out the staked ring? Chisel? On another note can I remove the rear shift extension to clean it up without parts dropping into the tranny housing? I have the manual but it's not clear what happens. Thanks, Mark From mark at nashvilletn.org Sun Jul 19 13:25:32 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 14:25:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: <976433.71616.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: We can always pick out the Ferrari owners, the unmistakable circular impression in their back pockets where the prophylactic is showing is the give away. Oh, and their shoes match their car. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 14:00:51 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:00:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: References: <976433.71616.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907191300r44a82646u9e5706e06da9239f@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:56 PM, wrote: > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ferrari_330_gtc.jpg > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MHV_Simca_1200_Coup%C3%A9_02.jpg I can see the _slight_ resemblance. > Well, some Ferrari owners need to be taken down a notch on a regular basis; > builds character. .bill in Oregon I almost did that once - quite unintentionally. And coincendtaly I believe it was a Ferrari 330 as well! Surely would have upset him if it wasn't for how it played out. This gentleman I'd met somewhat recently while admiring his lawn ornaments (several old Jags, Porsche, Fiats, Opels, a Manx buggy, an Alfa, and various domestics) had taken me into his barn to show me his "prize". While outside the yard was filled with rotting cars, just inside the main door was an almost perfect 64 XKE that I began to drool over. "No, that's not it, lets move toward the back of thebuilding." Literally climbing over a fairly nice Chrysler 300 Hemi with a cat sitting on top I paused to look at a coupe of early Rolls-Royces, late 20's and early 30's vintage. "No, that's not it either, but I've got one just like that in the back corner thats perfect and has been featured on the cover of the Rolls quarterly magazine several years ago. Let's keep moving, it's by the back wall another row over." Climbed along the bumper of a very nice Packard to make it over another row and stopped to look at an older Jag saloon and then walked past him in full admiration of a beautiful Lagonda coupe. I was awestruck and loooked it all over while asking questions here and there. He sat down on the trunk of another Chrysler, smiling from ear to ear and said I'm the first one he'd had in there that even knew what the Lagonda was. We talked about the car and it's history for a few minutes and then he said "I still can't believe it." What? The car I brought you in here to see, my real prize, is the one you've got your back to and haven't even noticed! I turned around and was surprised to find the Ferrari. From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 14:04:20 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:04:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mallory dizzy... In-Reply-To: <4A6307CC.18044.FF6A1C@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A6307CC.18044.FF6A1C@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <402188520907191304k5f321878y9fe2ec4f9e58320b@mail.gmail.com> > Now I got to buy/beg/borrow a dwell meter... Dave, If you have pulled the dissy out and set the gaps, why do you need/want a dwell meter? The only way to adjust the dwell is by changing the points gap(s) and that has already been established as a tad on the difficult side when the distributor is installed, which it needs to be in order to use the dwell meter. Plus, the dwell meter has no knowledge of which set of points needs to be adjusted, since it is reading the cumulative results of both sets of points. That could well be what happened to the DPO, resulting in the mess you inherited. Go out right now and buy a distributor machine instead ;-))) David L From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 14:21:38 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:21:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] front end rebuild Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907191321n1ff43fa7x161ce7aa325ac339@mail.gmail.com> The front end of my 73 Midget is making a fair amount of noise so I'm contemplating taking it off the road for a rebuild. I'd like to have it as a dependable everyday driver and highway ready should I decide to ever hit the road with it (perhaps, a 450 mile drive to Elkhart Lake). I've never attempted anything like that so I'm asking for advice from the most learned list. The twice-previous owner added hydraulic tube shocks (KYB I think) but the original lever shocks are still installed also. My thought was to remove the tube shocks and have the lever shocks rebuilt. Any comments for/against that approach. Also the front sway bar interferes with the rims when turning very sharply so I'm guessing its an incorrect aftermarket bar and will probably look for a suitable replacement. What all parts are recommended for replacement/rebuild? How difficult a job is it? Is this a job better farmed out to someone who knows what their doing to begin with? How long can I expect to have it off the road assuming there's nothing majorly wrong and I can easily source any special tools required? Are there any special tools required? Any upgrades or modifications suggested? From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 19 14:23:11 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:23:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A6380AF.9000003@sbcglobal.net> I agree (I can't believe I just agreed with HIM <:) ). I've really liked the Sunpro CP7676, which is not only a digital dwell/tach, but a decent VOM. There are several on fleabay right now for a buyitnow price of $25 and one that ends soon for $4.99. Amazon has it, too. (Welcome back to the list ED. You were missed.) Message: 16 Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:04:02 -0500 From: "Shop at justbrits.com" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... To: Jim Johnson Cc: Spridgets , Yahoo Spridget list , sprite-midgetclub Message-ID: <4A6343F2.2020106 at justbrits.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed <> As others have said, just double the 8 cyl. readings. BUT, why not send it back and get one WITH the 4cyl. setting ??? That way you do NOT have to remember how to use it and then have to ask the List(s) again?!?!? From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Jul 19 14:48:52 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:48:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] front end rebuild Message-ID: Jeff, Definitely get the shocks rebuilt. Peter C at Worldwide does the best. If the front end has not been maintained by the PO, you probably have worn kingpin bushings and a worn fulcrum pin (in the A-arm). If you need the bushings to be replaced, you also will need a special reamer to get the size right. This is also a job to farm out, and I had Peter C. do mine as well. Worst case, you'll need new A-arms and a front-end kit that has the kingpin and bushings, fulcrum pin, and all new bushings. Now is the time to go to polyurethane if you're so inclined. If you have all the parts, a fill R&R on the front end will take a Saturday for someone who hasn't done it before, depending on how many seized fasteners you encounter. In your case, you'll probably have one Saturday for teardown and diagnosis, the lag time while you order parts and get the shocks rebuilt, and another Saturday to put it all together. As for the bar, you have stock rims? If not, might be the rims and not the bar. Good luck. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Jeff Foster [tr3.4.me at gmail.com] >Sent: 7/19/2009 4:22:38 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] front end rebuild > >The front end of my 73 Midget is making a fair amount of noise so I'm >contemplating taking it off the road for a rebuild. I'd like to have >it as a dependable everyday driver and highway ready should I decide >to ever hit the road with it (perhaps, a 450 mile drive to Elkhart >Lake). > >I've never attempted anything like that so I'm asking for advice from >the most learned list. > >The twice-previous owner added hydraulic tube shocks (KYB I think) but >the original lever shocks are still installed also. My thought was to >remove the tube shocks and have the lever shocks rebuilt. Any >comments for/against that approach. > >Also the front sway bar interferes with the rims when turning very >sharply so I'm guessing its an incorrect aftermarket bar and will >probably look for a suitable replacement. > >What all parts are recommended for replacement/rebuild? How difficult >a job is it? Is this a job better farmed out to someone who knows what >their doing to begin with? How long can I expect to have it off the >road assuming there's nothing majorly wrong and I can easily source >any special tools required? Are there any special tools required? > >Any upgrades or modifications suggested? >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jul 19 15:24:56 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:24:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mallory dizzy... In-Reply-To: <402188520907191304k5f321878y9fe2ec4f9e58320b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A6307CC.18044.FF6A1C@kk7ss.verizon.net> <402188520907191304k5f321878y9fe2ec4f9e58320b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you-other than telling you its off before you pop the cover I don't see the use. On my old GM youth, not a problem. Just flip up the door the cap and twist away and be careful to not get shocked and not stall the engine. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 3:04 PM To: kk7ss at verizon.net; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mallory dizzy... > Now I got to buy/beg/borrow a dwell meter... Dave, If you have pulled the dissy out and set the gaps, why do you need/want a dwell meter? The only way to adjust the dwell is by changing the points gap(s) and that has already been established as a tad on the difficult side when the distributor is installed, which it needs to be in order to use the dwell meter. Plus, the dwell meter has no knowledge of which set of points needs to be adjusted, since it is reading the cumulative results of both sets of points. That could well be what happened to the DPO, resulting in the mess you inherited. Go out right now and buy a distributor machine instead ;-))) David L From pilotrob at msn.com Sun Jul 19 16:01:38 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:01:38 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... Message-ID: Incidentally, Jim.... that portable handheld tach is very handy for "seeing" that temporary "bump" one gets when tuning the carbs and lifting the air valve that tiny bit to check for mixture strength. :) CB From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 16:01:44 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:01:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Quick Question on a Dwell Tach.... In-Reply-To: <4A6380AF.9000003@sbcglobal.net> References: <4A6380AF.9000003@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <402188520907191501s5415c88fu5a33aff08b7728d7@mail.gmail.com> > (Welcome back to the list ED. You were missed.) But the shortage of ammo seems to be ending and we will be done reloading soon. From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 16:03:30 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:03:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mallory dizzy... In-Reply-To: References: <4A6307CC.18044.FF6A1C@kk7ss.verizon.net> <402188520907191304k5f321878y9fe2ec4f9e58320b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907191503r484cd66ya5f65ad4729ab7c0@mail.gmail.com> > Thank you-other than telling you its off before you pop the cover I don't > see the use. On my old GM youth, not a problem. Just flip up the door the > cap and twist away and be careful to not get shocked and not stall the > engine. Glad to see I am not the only one who misses that pinnacle of perfection, the Delco distributor with the window for tweaking the dwell with the engine running... David L From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jul 19 16:12:27 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:12:27 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Volt meter In-Reply-To: References: <6E84850D19BA4B83A23DA038054B53D9@Home> Message-ID: <965902527C534C6687AA4279302EE529@Home> > Sometimes I misread my digital volt meter; 19mv looks like 19v. This makes very good sense and is probably what happened. Michael Rowe From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 16:59:34 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:59:34 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907191559l4f9091edic58f879075157fd@mail.gmail.com> Saw a maroon Bugeye with CA plates, luggage rack (I think I saw one) on its way through Grants Pass (Southern Oregon)headed south; just the driver. One of the guys that helped??? Herb On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > Words cannot express my appreciation to all the guys that showed up to help > me get my engine installed and fired up. I so appreciate them taking the > time to share their knowledge and skill when it comes to helping out a > fellow Spridget enthusiast. I would also like to thank the wives of these > guys for allowing it to happen. I know it is a sacrifice on their part > also to give up a great weekend day for us to accomplish what we were able > to today. My wife is currently at the Casino after spending a long, hard, > day with the kids! > > Bob Walker > Bill M > Bill L and his son Andrew > Mike Burkhart > Mike Shurtz and his son Travis > Michael (never got your last name!) > Chris Goalby(from Seattle with his BE) > Rich Ball > Phil Jones > > Thanks for stopping by: > > John and Marian Colvin > Chris Curlott > > I'm pretty tired now, so please forgive me if I missed anyone. I'll post > some pics tomorrow. > > As for the work accomplished: > > We were able to build my 1275 from a short block to a complete engine. > Mated it to the transmission, installed them into the car, and fired it up. > The Lion's share of the work has been completed. I only have a few small > tasks to complete until it's ready for it's maiden voyage. Keep in mind > that I have never been able to drive this car, so I'm pretty excited to be > at this stage in the restoration. It's all thanks to a fantastic group of > guys who are passionate enough about these great little cars to help a > fellow enthusiast out. > > Paul A, we missed you and hope all is well..... > > Ed and Amanda Perez > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jul 19 17:01:09 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:01:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <846357934.20090719160109@pacifier.com> Hello, Those who were there know about the filter issue. I have a set of stock filter cans in better than decent shape that need to get to Ed. I'll bring 'em the the Bellevue ABFM on the 25th and trust that someone will get them on to him. He'll not want to run with just those screens for very long. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "Where shall I plant these water-lilies?" Tom pondered. From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 17:12:57 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:12:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] New Slave Cyl - Brit Parts Northwest In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907181756r7663a60cm84404ca121d3315e@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907181756r7663a60cm84404ca121d3315e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907191612q5700c86bh96595dc04c25bc7a@mail.gmail.com> Joe at Sierra does 'nice' work. Did a BE MC for me. Getting ready to send him four wheel cylinders. Herb Grants Pass, Oregon From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 17:19:59 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:19:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Watch it all Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907191619p283cdd8bx5f2cef1928e1bcf5@mail.gmail.com> http://www.motorcities.com/vehicle/09GFD145322996.html From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 19 18:32:20 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:32:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: <4A634304.6040702@COMCAST.NET> References: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> <4A634304.6040702@COMCAST.NET> Message-ID: <4A63BB14.50800@comcast.net> 63ahbj7 wrote: > > > I tried silicrap in my Big Healey and Wife's MGB. I NEVER could get > the air (suspended) bubbles out with the results being soft pedal all > around. I suppose if you don't know how to bleed a system, you WILL have air. I have been a huge fan of silicone fluid for 14 years now. I put it in the A40 back in 1997 and I only lost a slave cylinder seal which was easy enough to fix in place in about 5 minutes. That was 5 or 6 years ago. All my Sprites and my kids Sprites have silicone and we have not had any problems. I did have a hell of a time with the clutch on the Ladybug bleeding it but it has been fine once I finally got it. I did my 67 once and it's been fine. I did my 59 seven years ago and only changed the juice once but that car is due for a total refresh this winter. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 19 18:50:18 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:50:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: <976433.71616.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5A3A00C31CD0465C8C24C613ECCA4E9B@Larry> Amazing how owners of certain sports cars have nothing but ignorance for owners of other sports cars. The difference between a Spridget owner and a Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. A friend of mine who owns several Ferraris is more of a sports car enthusiast and knows more about different makes of sports cars than almost anybody on this list. The difference is he made something of his life and now has the ability to buy the cars that many of us lust after. Talk crap about him at your own peril. It only makes you look foolish. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner We can always pick out the Ferrari owners, the unmistakable circular impression in their back pockets where the prophylactic is showing is the give away. Oh, and their shoes match their car. You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 19 18:57:11 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:57:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <5A3A00C31CD0465C8C24C613ECCA4E9B@Larry> Message-ID: > Talk crap about him at your own peril. Can we still make fun of big Healey owners? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 19 19:09:21 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:09:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: Message-ID: Well, of course. Sorry Tracy. ;-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Mark" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > Talk crap about him at your own peril. Can we still make fun of big Healey owners? From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jul 19 19:19:19 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:19:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: <4A63BB14.50800@comcast.net> References: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> <4A634304.6040702@COMCAST.NET> <4A63BB14.50800@comcast.net> Message-ID: I agree with Frank. I've used it for at least 15 years. I can't count the times it has saved a paint job. Larry Miller On Jul 19, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Frank wrote: > 63ahbj7 wrote: >> >> >> I tried silicrap in my Big Healey and Wife's MGB. I NEVER could get >> the air (suspended) bubbles out with the results being soft pedal all >> around. > I suppose if you don't know how to bleed a system, you WILL have air. > I have been a huge fan of silicone fluid for 14 years now. I put it > in the A40 back in 1997 and I only lost a slave cylinder seal which > was easy enough > to fix in place in about 5 minutes. That was 5 or 6 years ago. > All my Sprites and my kids Sprites have silicone and we have not had > any problems. > I did have a hell of a time with the clutch on the Ladybug bleeding > it but it has been fine once I finally got it. > I did my 67 once and it's been fine. I did my 59 seven years ago and > only changed the juice once but that car is due for a total refresh > this winter. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jul 19 19:22:04 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:22:04 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <5A3A00C31CD0465C8C24C613ECCA4E9B@Larry> References: <976433.71616.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5A3A00C31CD0465C8C24C613ECCA4E9B@Larry> Message-ID: There is always an exception to the rule :-) On Jul 19, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Amazing how owners of certain sports cars have nothing but ignorance > for > owners of other sports cars. The difference between a Spridget > owner and a > Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. A friend of mine who owns > several Ferraris is more of a sports car enthusiast and knows more > about > different makes of sports cars than almost anybody on this list. The > difference is he made something of his life and now has the ability > to buy > the cars that many of us lust after. Talk crap about him at your > own peril. > It only makes you look foolish. > > LAD From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 19 19:26:14 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:26:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: <976433.71616.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5A3A00C31CD0465C8C24C613ECCA4E9B@Larry> Message-ID: Yep, and it usually makes somebody look stupid. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Miller" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Mark" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner There is always an exception to the rule :-) On Jul 19, 2009, at 5:50 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Amazing how owners of certain sports cars have nothing but ignorance > for > owners of other sports cars. The difference between a Spridget > owner and a > Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. A friend of mine who owns > several Ferraris is more of a sports car enthusiast and knows more > about > different makes of sports cars than almost anybody on this list. The > difference is he made something of his life and now has the ability > to buy > the cars that many of us lust after. Talk crap about him at your > own peril. > It only makes you look foolish. > > LAD From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 20:31:56 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:31:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <5A3A00C31CD0465C8C24C613ECCA4E9B@Larry> Message-ID: <579806.91230.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > owners of other sports cars. The difference between a > Spridget owner and a > Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. A friend Love you man, but I gotta disagree with this on some levels. There are many, many owners of beautiful cars who are true enthusiasts but they are not separated from us merely by their means. First of all, the guy at the show was living the stereotype - with TuTone as my witness, the shoes matched the car, leather loafers with a buckle and no socks. Second of all, the Ferrari market brings in a large status symbol contingent. Few of us, I'm sure, ever thought of our cars as status symbols. Third, a portion of the Ferrari market is made up of speculators, guys who treat them as investments only, and ruined it for those of us who liked the 246 GTS a lot more before 1989. Again, it's nice that my Bugeye has gained 2 or 3 percent a year since 1997 when I bought it, but I don't think any of us really considered Spridgets to be blue chippers. Those of us who did, at best made tens of cents on their investments. My .02, Ron From billmasq at hotmail.com Sun Jul 19 20:45:49 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:45:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <846357934.20090719160109@pacifier.com> References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <846357934.20090719160109@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Bring it in Bill- among all of us I'm sure that we can get it to Ed. BillM > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:01:09 -0700 > From: pythias at pacifier.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 > > Hello, > > Those who were there know about the filter issue. I have a set > of stock filter cans in better than decent shape that need to > get to Ed. I'll bring 'em the the Bellevue ABFM on the 25th and > trust that someone will get them on to him. He'll not want to > run with just those screens for very long. > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > * "Where shall I plant these water-lilies?" Tom pondered. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the webs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET Sun Jul 19 21:10:38 2009 From: 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET (63ahbj7) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:10:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mallory dizzy... In-Reply-To: <402188520907191503r484cd66ya5f65ad4729ab7c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A6307CC.18044.FF6A1C@kk7ss.verizon.net> <402188520907191304k5f321878y9fe2ec4f9e58320b@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907191503r484cd66ya5f65ad4729ab7c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A63E02E.8020103@COMCAST.NET> <> HeeHee !!! I still got TWO of dem, David !!!! From richb at u.washington.edu Sun Jul 19 21:46:23 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:46:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com><846357934.20090719160109@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <534CCAE44B8243E2874283444208BCBD@m275laptop> Susan and I will be there Saturday. We can drop them by Ed's on our way home since we're probably the closest. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Masquelier" To: "Bill Loeb" ; "spridget list" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 > Bring it in Bill- among all of us I'm sure that we can get it to Ed. > BillM > >> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:01:09 -0700 >> From: pythias at pacifier.com >> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 >> >> Hello, >> >> Those who were there know about the filter issue. I have a set >> of stock filter cans in better than decent shape that need to >> get to Ed. I'll bring 'em the the Bellevue ABFM on the 25th and >> trust that someone will get them on to him. He'll not want to >> run with just those screens for very long. >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com >> >> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" >> >> * "Where shall I plant these water-lilies?" Tom pondered. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the webs latest sports > videos. > Check it out. > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL > _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 22:12:11 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 building tip Message-ID: <637282.22490.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just dismantling a motor picked up in a recent deal, I needed the fancy Winner's Circle pan. The motor has a crank, rods, and pistons, nothing else (oil relief too). The pan is RTV gooped on BOTH SIDES of the gasket, and on every screw. The engine is a big gooey mess. You don't need the pan on other than as a cover because you can't do the lifters without the pan off. The correct procedure is no RTV whatsoever, or a film of it on the pan side of the gasket, NOT on the block side. If you disagree, I will someday curse you when I take apart one of your motors. Ron From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jul 19 23:41:00 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:41:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <534CCAE44B8243E2874283444208BCBD@m275laptop> References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <846357934.20090719160109@pacifier.com> <534CCAE44B8243E2874283444208BCBD@m275laptop> Message-ID: <441250190907192241o8a92dc8u4ae67b4873d3977c@mail.gmail.com> I will miss the ABFM since I will be at the Jersey shore. -g On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Susan and I will be there Saturday. We can drop them by Ed's on our way > home since we're probably the closest. > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, Wa > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Masquelier" > > To: "Bill Loeb" ; "spridget list" < > spridgets at autox.team.net> > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:45 PM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 > > > Bring it in Bill- among all of us I'm sure that we can get it to Ed. >> BillM >> >> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:01:09 -0700 >>> From: pythias at pacifier.com >>> To: spridgets at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Those who were there know about the filter issue. I have a set >>> of stock filter cans in better than decent shape that need to >>> get to Ed. I'll bring 'em the the Bellevue ABFM on the 25th and >>> trust that someone will get them on to him. He'll not want to >>> run with just those screens for very long. >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com >>> >>> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" >>> >>> * "Where shall I plant these water-lilies?" Tom pondered. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the web s latest sports >> videos. >> Check it out. >> >> http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL >> _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Their mythology starts with the false premise that these are irreplaceable geniuses Andrew Cuomo speaking about AIG executives From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Mon Jul 20 09:16:33 2009 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:16:33 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist In-Reply-To: <619640.81244.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: There is a urologist in Tifton, Ga. named Dr. Peters. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Edward Perez Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 3:24 PM To: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net; Kirk Hargreaves Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist I think Dick Butkus went into the correct profession..... I wouldn't have messed with him! To: Kirk Hargreaves Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 12:15:29 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist Once went out with a girl who's gynocologists name was Dr. Bush.B B Never had any choice but to do that as a profession. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 2:16:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] Ed A Proctologist One who has a fascination with the rectum and all that has to do with it. Spends many years in school studying the rectum. Years ago, there was actually a proctologist in San Diego who was listed as a "Dr. Harry Buttes." Pronounced a bit differently. . but I bet he took a lot of teasing. Kirk You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as bogodwin at bellsouth.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jmfarley61 at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 09:22:54 2009 From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com (John Farley) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:22:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing Message-ID: <69759f980907200822j459d63bas13ef6af907073479@mail.gmail.com> I have a rebuilt 1275 in my bugeye and am looking for some engine breathing guidance. I have a stock Smiths "pancake" P.C.V. valve mounted above and feeding into the SU carbs'. intake manifold. I am feeding into that valve via. a hose from the timing cover "can". The valver cover that is installed also has an outlet tube that I was feeding via. a hose into the front stock air cleaner. I am using a metal oil filter cap with the cable. (The repair manual also mentions a vented cap). With the valve cover outlet tube open to the air cleaner, I was concerned that the P.C.V. valve might not be working correctly. I decided to plug the valve cover outlet tube as a test. The RPMs dropped about 200 as expected. I then re-adjusted the idle. The engine now seems to be running slightly better at both idle and at speed. I was wondering what other folks were doing? Thanks, John From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Jul 20 09:22:59 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:22:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yeah, The car definitely has it. Friday night I was taking my 15 yr old son to a friend's Sweet 16 party. Enroute a BIG 4x4 pulls along side girl starts taking pictures. We wave. Get to the party, and all the girls are looking and waving, Wow, what IS that?? That's SOOOOO cool. etc, BIG grin on my sons face. After I drop him off, I head down to the local cruise spot to see if anything's going on. Weather's not so good, only about 50 cars there. Usually almost all big engined Muscle cars, Rat Rods, late model Mustangs, Vettes, alot of 50's stuff too. Good weather brings 200+ cars. AS soon as I park, constant crowd gathers around the car for the 2 hours I'm there. Kids LOVE it, I let a few sit in it. Why not? HUGE smiles. Lots of questions, "Is that a 2 cylinder?? Is that a lawnmower engine? Is that a kit car? What does it want to be when it grows up??, etc " Lots of I had one of those or an MGA or B or Midget. Most had to look at the badge on the front to tell what it was, Very few know. Tons of people take it's picture. Definite crowd favorite. Talked with Dave B for a long time. After you left, Dave, and I was about to, Guys walks straight up to me and says "I've never seen another one here on Long Island!" Out of 2+ million people you think there'd be more, but I have seen very few either. His grandfather had given him one for his high school graduation 10 years ago. Seeing mine has prompted him to fix his brakes and get it on the road. maybe for the Vanderbilt show next month. (His Dad had the Opel GT Dave) Talked for a while with him and a guy with an Innocenti Mini, (he knows of you Jay) Nice car, he's working on a Mini pickup for next year, with a 1300 injected turbo Metro motor, thinks 160 HP, scary. Sunday morning I take my middle son to the beach for the weekly Sunday early am cruise in. Nice day 150+ cars at 7 am. Not many Rat rods, wider mix of cars. Park behind a Ferrari F430. Seemed to be a nice guy. More people looked under my bonnet than his, don't think he was mad..... The car definitely has it. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! > > Came out of the gym tonight to find a herd of Girl around the Bugeye taking pictures of the car. They were sending the pics to their boyfriends, of course. > > At the car's still got it, > Ron _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Jul 20 09:37:25 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:37:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: References: <608419.94651.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <4A642CC5.15061.51E5CD@kk7ss.verizon.net> My car had it ..... and lost it I never found it !! On 20 Jul 2009 at 11:22, brian S wrote: >> The car definitely has it. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 20 10:40:54 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:40:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 building tip In-Reply-To: <637282.22490.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > RTV gooped on BOTH SIDES But you NEED it on both sides if you over-torque the bolts. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 11:01:05 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Everybody Digs it! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <251827.20336.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/20/09, brian S wrote: "The car definitely has it." I can confirm Brian's assessment of his Bugeye's crowd-drawing abilities. I was standing with friends at their X1/9 (they alternate bringing this and their '69 Elan) when Brian drove by. Every head on that side of the parking lot followed his progress. By the time he got it backed into a space, there were already quite a few people gawking / commenting / asking questions, with others on the way. At one point, Brian and I took a walk to check out the other cars. When we returned, you could not see his car which was sitting between two larger cars, but you knew where it was because of the crowd standing around it. Part of the draw is obviously the fact that Bugeyes have never been common, and are downright rare now. BUT... at least part of the draw of this particular car is the edginess it has when compared to most other LBC's. The big roll bar, real magnesium wheels, fat sticky tires poking out from under each fender, rowdy exhaust note and cam timing all practically scream "race-car!" as it rumbles by. When he opens the forward-tilting bonnet, the header and polished intake trumpets do little to alter the initial impression that this thing would be a blast to drive or ride in. Get used to it Brian - You are a celebrity by association as long as you drive that little beast in public. David Booker Long Island From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jul 20 11:47:05 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:47:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: References: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> <4A634304.6040702@COMCAST.NET> <4A63BB14.50800@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0D731994-2D80-4821-B93B-AABEE0C96515@mac.com> Another yea vote, I have had it in the bugeye for 12 years. A seal in the MC recently gave out so I will be opening the entire system to see how it has survived. Expect to also see what the water situation is like assuming there is any. More to come and yes Peter I still have not had time to do this job. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 19, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Larry Miller wrote: > I agree with Frank. I've used it for at least 15 years. I can't > count the times it has saved a paint job. > > Larry Miller > > On Jul 19, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Frank wrote: > >> 63ahbj7 wrote: >>> >>> >>> I tried silicrap in my Big Healey and Wife's MGB. I NEVER could get >>> the air (suspended) bubbles out with the results being soft pedal >>> all >>> around. >> I suppose if you don't know how to bleed a system, you WILL have air. >> I have been a huge fan of silicone fluid for 14 years now. I put it >> in the A40 back in 1997 and I only lost a slave cylinder seal which >> was easy enough >> to fix in place in about 5 minutes. That was 5 or 6 years ago. >> All my Sprites and my kids Sprites have silicone and we have not >> had any problems. >> I did have a hell of a time with the clutch on the Ladybug bleeding >> it but it has been fine once I finally got it. >> I did my 67 once and it's been fine. I did my 59 seven years ago >> and only changed the juice once but that car is due for a total >> refresh this winter. >> >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 11:56:11 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:56:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Name Message-ID: <37dc82d40907201056k4ec3a219led1b81c84b29628c@mail.gmail.com> A professional sex therapist whose name was Dick Gazzinya. He was one of the Gazzinya brothers. Kirk From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 12:44:34 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <613432.54592.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Here's the link to the photos..... http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/sets/72157621690231668/ ________________________________ From: Edward Perez To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Cc: jm.colvin at verizon.net; mshurtz at yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 10:06:29 PM Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 Words cannot express my appreciation to all the guys that showed up to help me get my engine installed and fired up. I so appreciate them taking the time to share their knowledge and skill when it comes to helping out a fellow Spridget enthusiast. I would also like to thank the wives of these guys for allowing it to happen. I know it is a sacrifice on their part also to give up a great weekend day for us to accomplish what we were able to today. My wife is currently at the Casino after spending a long, hard, day with the kids! Bob Walker Bill M Bill L and his son Andrew Mike Burkhart Mike Shurtz and his son Travis Michael (never got your last name!) Chris Goalby(from Seattle with his BE) Rich Ball Phil Jones Thanks for stopping by: John and Marian Colvin Chris Curlott I'm pretty tired now, so please forgive me if I missed anyone. I'll post some pics tomorrow. As for the work accomplished: We were able to build my 1275 from a short block to a complete engine. Mated it to the transmission, installed them into the car, and fired it up. The Lion's share of the work has been completed. I only have a few small tasks to complete until it's ready for it's maiden voyage. Keep in mind that I have never been able to drive this car, so I'm pretty excited to be at this stage in the restoration. It's all thanks to a fantastic group of guys who are passionate enough about these great little cars to help a fellow enthusiast out. Paul A, we missed you and hope all is well..... Ed and Amanda Perez You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jul 20 13:38:35 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:38:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. In-Reply-To: <0D731994-2D80-4821-B93B-AABEE0C96515@mac.com> References: <5758E3008797499B97B5265FEC0AB89C@spider> <4A634304.6040702@COMCAST.NET> <4A63BB14.50800@comcast.net> <0D731994-2D80-4821-B93B-AABEE0C96515@mac.com> Message-ID: <16415431-EEB8-4B2E-B976-0EE9D6AA0033@comcast.net> Now I used it for well over 250,000 miles on a then new '85 Honda with no problems, but the Jag folk point out that due to their weird brake system (TWO master cylinders?? REALLY?? And one is just to activate the other??) if there is a leak in the system the silicone is sucked into the combustion chamber and they insist that under high temp and pressure the reaction creates silicon dioxide.. sand.. Lester On Jul 20, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Another yea vote, I have had it in the bugeye for 12 years. A seal > in the MC recently gave out so I will be opening the entire system > to see how it has survived. Expect to also see what the water > situation is like assuming there is any. More to come and yes Peter > I still have not had time to do this job. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > On Jul 19, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Larry Miller wrote: > >> I agree with Frank. I've used it for at least 15 years. I can't >> count the times it has saved a paint job. >> >> Larry Miller >> >> On Jul 19, 2009, at 5:32 PM, Frank wrote: >> >>> 63ahbj7 wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I tried silicrap in my Big Healey and Wife's MGB. I NEVER could >>>> get >>>> the air (suspended) bubbles out with the results being soft pedal >>>> all >>>> around. >>> I suppose if you don't know how to bleed a system, you WILL have >>> air. >>> I have been a huge fan of silicone fluid for 14 years now. I put >>> it in the A40 back in 1997 and I only lost a slave cylinder seal >>> which was easy enough >>> to fix in place in about 5 minutes. That was 5 or 6 years ago. >>> All my Sprites and my kids Sprites have silicone and we have not >>> had any problems. >>> I did have a hell of a time with the clutch on the Ladybug >>> bleeding it but it has been fine once I finally got it. >>> I did my 67 once and it's been fine. I did my 59 seven years ago >>> and only changed the juice once but that car is due for a total >>> refresh this winter. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Frank Clarici >>> Toms River, NJ >>> My own Fleet of Sprites >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Jul 20 13:48:48 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:48:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A6467B0.6800.1380CE1@kk7ss.verizon.net> I greatly enjoyed the pictures and the fact that you put names to faces I've never seen... Thanks.. The Beasts' body color is the same Blue as your engine block !! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 14:05:29 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:05:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <4A6467B0.6800.1380CE1@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6467B0.6800.1380CE1@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <291927.78426.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yeah, I got to put faces to names also. You stood a pretty good chance of getting the name right if you addressed them as "Bill" or "Mike"! We even had a couple of Chris' too. Love the color! ________________________________ From: Dave G. To: Edward Perez ; Spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:48:48 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 I greatly enjoyed the pictures and the fact that you put names to faces I've never seen... Thanks.. The Beasts' body color is the same Blue as your engine block !! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 15:27:07 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:27:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Calendar 2010 Message-ID: <402188520907201427y59e3836bi9f2ffb5ded3bbf73@mail.gmail.com> It is time to start nagging again ;-) Or perhaps we could introduce another concept here... Last year's calendar included a page created by Bruce Hamper of the St Louis club. This year I have invited the N.O.S.H.I.T group to create a page of their activities. I would like to extend that invitation to some of the rest of you. The final requirements are two pages, one of them 8.5x11 and the other 11x17, both in landscape orientation, with nothing important in the bottom 1/4" where the spiral binding makes it hard to read. 150dpi or higher jpg file under 8MB in size. The aspect ratios of the two pages are different, so it requires some rearranging to get things to fit. I would like to emphasize Spridgets being driven or worked upon rather than poses. Identification of the cars and people depicted is appreciated and be sure to give the creator some credit as well. You will be paid at the same rate that I am (an "attaboy" or two and perhaps a bit of undying gratitude) and the profits go toward defraying the cost of putting on the Midget 50th celebration at Road America in June of 2011. If you would rather get some pictures together and send them to me for a themed page, that could be arranged as well. All pictures should be ones that the photographer has volunteered for the purpose, no gleaning them off the net! It is about cars and people we know, not the most perfect trailer queens. The 2009 calendar can be seen at http://www.cafepress.com/Spridget.331482316 if you want an idea of what the pages could look like. None of this "one photo for the month" stuff ;-) My email address is up there at the top, so feel free to contact me with any questions! There are only twelve months available David L From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 16:07:57 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <613432.54592.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <547185.67927.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Nice! Love the colors on the motor - looks great. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Edward Perez wrote: > From: Edward Perez > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 > To: "Edward Perez" , Spridgets at autox.team.net > Cc: jm.colvin at verizon.net, mshurtz at yahoo.com > Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 1:44 PM > Here's the link to the photos..... > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/sets/72157621690231668/ From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Jul 20 16:12:45 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:12:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 In-Reply-To: <441250190907192241o8a92dc8u4ae67b4873d3977c@mail.gmail.com> References: <494173.17662.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <846357934.20090719160109@pacifier.com> <534CCAE44B8243E2874283444208BCBD@m275laptop> <441250190907192241o8a92dc8u4ae67b4873d3977c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ...and WHO gave you permission???? Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:41:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com To: richb at u.washington.edu CC: billmasq at hotmail.com; pythias at pacifier.com; spridgets at autox.team.net I will miss the ABFM since I will be at the Jersey shore. -g On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Richard Ball wrote: Susan and I will be there Saturday. We can drop them by Ed's on our way home since we're probably the closest. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Masquelier" To: "Bill Loeb" ; "spridget list" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 Bring it in Bill- among all of us I'm sure that we can get it to Ed. BillM Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:01:09 -0700 From: pythias at pacifier.com To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOSHIT II Snohomish, 7/18 Hello, Those who were there know about the filter issue. I have a set of stock filter cans in better than decent shape that need to get to Ed. I'll bring 'em the the Bellevue ABFM on the 25th and trust that someone will get them on to him. He'll not want to run with just those screens for very long. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "Where shall I plant these water-lilies?" Tom pondered. You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the web s latest sports videos. 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Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Jul 20 16:22:10 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:22:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing In-Reply-To: <69759f980907200822j459d63bas13ef6af907073479@mail.gmail.com> References: <69759f980907200822j459d63bas13ef6af907073479@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: You have precisely what I would recommend, when the engine is idling then the PCV pulls the air and at higher revs the aircleaners pull the air (vacuum). You should have minimal oil leakage and the carburation should have no problem. BillM > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:22:54 -0400 > From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing > > I have a rebuilt 1275 in my bugeye and am looking for some engine breathing > guidance. I have a stock Smiths "pancake" P.C.V. valve mounted above and > feeding into the SU carbs'. intake manifold. I am feeding into that valve > via. a hose from the timing cover "can". The valver cover that is installed > also has an outlet tube that I was feeding via. a hose into the front stock > air cleaner. I am using a metal oil filter cap with the cable. (The repair > manual also mentions a vented cap). > > With the valve cover outlet tube open to the air cleaner, I was concerned > that the P.C.V. valve might not be working correctly. I decided to plug the > valve cover outlet tube as a test. The RPMs dropped about 200 as expected. > I then re-adjusted the idle. The engine now seems to be running slightly > better at both idle and at speed. > > I was wondering what other folks were doing? > > Thanks, John > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the webs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 16:31:02 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Message-ID: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anyone ever use this stuff? Good, bad, ugly? Recommendations for any additives to break in the new motor? http://hyperlube.com/ Edward From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 20 17:02:03 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:02:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com> Hello Edward, read this.. http://www.ttalk.info/Zddp.htm and only after reading, break in your engine. As far as I know this is THE definitive article. .. (as an aside, I saw Keith at the B.C. ABFM this spring, and he should be in Bellevue on Saturday. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Microwaves frizz your heir. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 20 17:36:20 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:36:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] no LBC; another one gone Message-ID: Maranello, 20 July 2009 - A tragic accident on the last motorsport weekend. Henry Surtees, the son of John Surtees, the Formula 1 World Champion with Ferrari in 1964, died last night after an accident at the Brands Hatch circuit in this season's fourth race of the FIA Formula 2 Championship. Surtees was hit by a wheel that flew off a car after it had hit the safety barriers, causing him to crash into the guardrail. Surtees died at the Royal London Hospital, where he was taken by ambulance. The 18-year-old had gained a place on the podium the day before, his first of this season. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 20 17:44:21 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:44:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <7F831BD8CA954F71B618C7C8E51CF4D5@Larry> That was a good article a couple years ago, but it is outdated now. My understanding is that the Valvoline VR1 no longer contains the needed levels of ZDDP. I think Redline is still good as is Brad Penn. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Edward Perez" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Hello Edward, read this.. http://www.ttalk.info/Zddp.htm and only after reading, break in your engine. As far as I know this is THE definitive article. .. (as an aside, I saw Keith at the B.C. ABFM this spring, and he should be in Bellevue on Saturday. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Microwaves frizz your heir. _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 17:54:34 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <7F831BD8CA954F71B618C7C8E51CF4D5@Larry> Message-ID: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > of ZDDP. I think Redline is still good as is Brad > Penn. Redline is not good for break-in (synthetic) - Brad Penn Break-In is a better way to go. A friend with a racecar that smokes like crazy used Redline after a very short break in, and I'm btting his rings aren't seated... Ron From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 20 18:00:51 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:00:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <7F831BD8CA954F71B618C7C8E51CF4D5@Larry> References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com> <7F831BD8CA954F71B618C7C8E51CF4D5@Larry> Message-ID: <622986277.20090720170051@pacifier.com> Hello Larry, According to the Valvoline websight http://www.valvoline.com/faqs/motor-oil/racing-oil/76 VR-1 still has .13% Zinc -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Dermatologists make rash judgments. From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 20 18:04:45 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:04:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Edward, Why make life so un-necessarily complicated ("snake oil" additives)? Just use Penn Grade 1 Break-In Oil (as recommended by the major domestic cam manufacturers) and be done with it. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:31 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > Anyone ever use this stuff? Good, bad, ugly? Recommendations for any > additives to break in the new motor? > > http://hyperlube.com/ > > Edward From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 20 18:04:09 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:04:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> Redline has gone south, too? Damn. I talked to a guy, Charles Navarro, who is big into Porsches and this problem (Bud Osborne knows who he is) and he has talked to the people at Brad Penn who have committed to producing oils for our flat tappet crowd. They realize that this is a niche market, but they are committed to filling that niche. I have been using Brad Penn for two years. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > of ZDDP. I think Redline is still good as is Brad > Penn. Redline is not good for break-in (synthetic) - Brad Penn Break-In is a better way to go. A friend with a racecar that smokes like crazy used Redline after a very short break in, and I'm btting his rings aren't seated... Ron You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 20 18:05:09 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:05:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com> <7F831BD8CA954F71B618C7C8E51CF4D5@Larry> <622986277.20090720170051@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <6D38DD840B374A158A9D251D15CB429F@Larry> Thanks, Bill. I had heard otherwise, but that is the amount that we need. Good news. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Hello Larry, According to the Valvoline websight http://www.valvoline.com/faqs/motor-oil/racing-oil/76 VR-1 still has .13% Zinc -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Dermatologists make rash judgments. From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 18:08:31 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:08:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> Message-ID: <288329.29730.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > Redline has gone south, too? No, Redline is top-notch. I will not use anything else in a broken in race motor. It should NOT be used for initial break-in, though. Ron From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 20 18:16:29 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:16:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <6D38DD840B374A158A9D251D15CB429F@Larry> References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com><7F831BD8CA954F71B618C7C8E51CF4D5@Larry><622986277.20090720170051@pacifier.com> <6D38DD840B374A158A9D251D15CB429F@Larry> Message-ID: <74163C7CA2B247FAB32C393B907D38AC@OwnerPC> Keep in mind that it is not just the "additive package" that makes a superior lube oil. The base stock is a major part of the equation. It's the base stock that makes Brad-Penn (Penn Grade 1) oils so superior. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Bill L" Cc: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > Thanks, Bill. I had heard otherwise, but that is the amount that we need. > Good news. > > LAD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill L" > To: "Larry Daniels" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:00 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > > > Hello Larry, > > According to the Valvoline websight > > http://www.valvoline.com/faqs/motor-oil/racing-oil/76 > > VR-1 still has .13% Zinc > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Dermatologists make rash judgments. From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 20 18:27:10 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:27:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> Message-ID: <1CB9FC9ECB604645B02108CCFD2B5897@OwnerPC> Larry, I'll see if I can come up with Charles' website address and post it here on the Spridget list. It's air-cooled Porsche specific, but, much of the information is still pertinent to our A series engines. BTW, Brad Penn also makes oil for "modern" cars, and which conforms to the dreaded SM spec (half the ZDDP required by our engines) of API. They (Brad Penn) are also suppliers of lube oils for industrial applications. I think I may have mentioned the letter, with break-in instructions that one of my Triumph buddies got with his special order, Isky cam a few weeks ago. He gave me a copy of it, this weekend, but I haven't had the time to read it, yet. I do, however, remember him telling me that Isky says that flat tappet engines should NEVER use "full" synthetic oil......... Sorry to tease you guys with just a tid bit of unexplained recommendation, from Isky, but I gotta read the letter before I can give you the full story. Sorry. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Ron Soave" ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > Redline has gone south, too? Damn. I talked to a guy, Charles Navarro, > who > is big into Porsches and this problem (Bud Osborne knows who he is) and he > has talked to the people at Brad Penn who have committed to producing oils > for our flat tappet crowd. They realize that this is a niche market, but > they are committed to filling that niche. I have been using Brad Penn for > two years. > > LAD From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 20 18:28:58 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:28:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> <1CB9FC9ECB604645B02108CCFD2B5897@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <309B5CB9BD1A48898D10F92523609D02@Larry> Charles Navarro LN Engineering http://www.LNengineering.com Aircooled Precision Performance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Ron Soave" ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Larry, I'll see if I can come up with Charles' website address and post it here on the Spridget list. It's air-cooled Porsche specific, but, much of the information is still pertinent to our A series engines. BTW, Brad Penn also makes oil for "modern" cars, and which conforms to the dreaded SM spec (half the ZDDP required by our engines) of API. They (Brad Penn) are also suppliers of lube oils for industrial applications. I think I may have mentioned the letter, with break-in instructions that one of my Triumph buddies got with his special order, Isky cam a few weeks ago. He gave me a copy of it, this weekend, but I haven't had the time to read it, yet. I do, however, remember him telling me that Isky says that flat tappet engines should NEVER use "full" synthetic oil......... Sorry to tease you guys with just a tid bit of unexplained recommendation, from Isky, but I gotta read the letter before I can give you the full story. Sorry. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Ron Soave" ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > Redline has gone south, too? Damn. I talked to a guy, Charles Navarro, > who > is big into Porsches and this problem (Bud Osborne knows who he is) and he > has talked to the people at Brad Penn who have committed to producing oils > for our flat tappet crowd. They realize that this is a niche market, but > they are committed to filling that niche. I have been using Brad Penn for > two years. > > LAD From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jul 20 18:31:22 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:31:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <74163C7CA2B247FAB32C393B907D38AC@OwnerPC> References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com><7F831BD8CA954F71B618C7C8E51CF4D5@Larry><622986277.20090720170051@pacifier.com> <6D38DD840B374A158A9D251D15CB429F@Larry> <74163C7CA2B247FAB32C393B907D38AC@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <176678748.20090720173122@pacifier.com> Hello, Just to open up a whole can of worms..... It is my understanding that Brad Penn oil is a top notch, A#1 quality product and all around good company/corporation. I believe, --correct me if I'm wrong-- that they now have ownership of what WAS the PENNZOIL refinery, and only use pure Pennsylvania crude in the manufacture of their products, UNLIKE the present day Pennzoil that is now part of a corporate conglomerate that puts oil from WHEREVER into its products. .. All that said, it has also always been my understanding that Pennsylvania based crude has the highest PARAFFIN content of any petroleum. If you want to run WAX in you engine that is all well and good, just be sure to never put any REAL oil in your crankcase afterwards...(or synthetic for that matter). (flame suit on) -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" What fools these morals be! From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 18:35:35 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Message-ID: <436479.67985.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Bud Osbourne wrote: > yet. I do, however, remember him telling me that Isky > says that flat tappet engines should NEVER use "full" > synthetic oil......... Sorry to tease you guys with So every SCCA Spridget race motor builder in the country is wrong? Ron From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 20 18:39:33 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:39:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com><7F831BD8CA954F71B618C7C8E51CF4D5@Larry><622986277.20090720170051@pacifier.com><6D38DD840B374A158A9D251D15CB429F@Larry><74163C7CA2B247FAB32C393B907D38AC@OwnerPC> <176678748.20090720173122@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Close, Bill, but it was Kendall that they bought. They bought everything but the "Kendall" name which was sold to somebody else. http://www.bradpennracing.com/ I'll refrain from commenting on the disingenuousness of selling a name to the highest bidder, but the name's product to somebody else. Sleazy bastards. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Hello, Just to open up a whole can of worms..... It is my understanding that Brad Penn oil is a top notch, A#1 quality product and all around good company/corporation. I believe, --correct me if I'm wrong-- that they now have ownership of what WAS the PENNZOIL refinery, and only use pure Pennsylvania crude in the manufacture of their products, UNLIKE the present day Pennzoil that is now part of a corporate conglomerate that puts oil from WHEREVER into its products. .. All that said, it has also always been my understanding that Pennsylvania based crude has the highest PARAFFIN content of any petroleum. If you want to run WAX in you engine that is all well and good, just be sure to never put any REAL oil in your crankcase afterwards...(or synthetic for that matter). (flame suit on) -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" What fools these morals be! You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 20 18:42:25 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:42:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <622986277.20090720170051@pacifier.com> Message-ID: As I understand it, original ZDDP level was 1600ppm, which was lowered to 800ppm in 1987, and down to 400ppm recently. I don't know what means as a percentage. Maybe some rocket scientist will chime in. I've also read that it's not good to add ZDDP without upping the detergent level accordingly, but I forget why. I have that article bookmarked in my shop computer and I'll try to remember to forward it to myself. I've been doing a lot of oil research recently for a non-LBC project. > Which oil has more zinc/ZDDP: VR1 or "Not Street Legal" oil? > Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil contains .13% of Zinc and .12% of Phosphorus compared > to the Valvoline "Not Street Legal" Racing Oil which contains .14% of Zinc and > .13% of Phosphorus. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 20 18:44:10 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:44:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <288329.29730.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > It should NOT be used for initial break-in, though. The Redline guy I spoke to last week confirmed this also. From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 20 18:54:05 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:54:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <309B5CB9BD1A48898D10F92523609D02@Larry> References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> <1CB9FC9ECB604645B02108CCFD2B5897@OwnerPC> <309B5CB9BD1A48898D10F92523609D02@Larry> Message-ID: That's it. Good work, Larry! Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; "Ron Soave" ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > Charles Navarro > LN Engineering > http://www.LNengineering.com > Aircooled Precision Performance > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Osbourne" > To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Ron Soave" > ; > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > > > Larry, > I'll see if I can come up with Charles' website address and post it here > on > the Spridget list. It's air-cooled Porsche specific, but, much of the > information is still pertinent to our A series engines. > BTW, Brad Penn also makes oil for "modern" cars, and which conforms to the > dreaded SM spec (half the ZDDP required by our engines) of API. They > (Brad > Penn) are also suppliers of lube oils for industrial applications. > > I think I may have mentioned the letter, with break-in instructions that > one > of my Triumph buddies got with his special order, Isky cam a few weeks > ago. > He gave me a copy of it, this weekend, but I haven't had the time to read > it, yet. I do, however, remember him telling me that Isky says that flat > tappet engines should NEVER use "full" synthetic oil......... Sorry to > tease you guys with just a tid bit of unexplained recommendation, from > Isky, > but I gotta read the letter before I can give you the full story. Sorry. > Bud Osbourne From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 20 18:56:19 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:56:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: References: <622986277.20090720170051@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <402188520907201756rb438ed7s27c3806caa8eeab0@mail.gmail.com> 1600ppm would be 0.16% Did I beat the rocket scientist? David L 2009/7/20 Billy Zoom : > As I understand it, original ZDDP level was 1600ppm, which was lowered to > 800ppm in 1987, and down to 400ppm recently. I don't know what means as a > percentage. Maybe some rocket scientist will chime in. From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 20 19:01:38 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:01:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <436479.67985.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <436479.67985.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <91DFCDD9A1B44ECF888E78BB4E138082@OwnerPC> Ron, I'm just passing on information........not passing judgment. I've been out of racing, myself, for 27 years, and haven't kept up with who's doing what. However, I do know that a lot of engine builders (more typically small block Chevy builders, I think) have switched over to Brad Penn in recent years. It could be that the SCCA Spridget race motor builders haven't caught on, yet......... Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Bud Osbourne wrote: >> yet. I do, > however, remember him telling me that Isky >> says that flat tappet engines > should NEVER use "full" >> synthetic oil......... Sorry to tease you guys with > So every SCCA Spridget race motor builder in the country is wrong? > > Ron From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 20 19:07:58 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:07:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> <1CB9FC9ECB604645B02108CCFD2B5897@OwnerPC> <309B5CB9BD1A48898D10F92523609D02@Larry> Message-ID: I don't know if you ever met him, Bud, but the guy is actually very, very bright and extremely committed to motorsports -- mainly Porsches, but, what the heck, I don't drive a Porsche anymore, but I still like "all" old sports cars. I was quite impressed by him. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Ron Soave" ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube That's it. Good work, Larry! Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; "Ron Soave" ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > Charles Navarro > LN Engineering > http://www.LNengineering.com > Aircooled Precision Performance > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Osbourne" > To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Ron Soave" > ; > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > > > Larry, > I'll see if I can come up with Charles' website address and post it here > on > the Spridget list. It's air-cooled Porsche specific, but, much of the > information is still pertinent to our A series engines. > BTW, Brad Penn also makes oil for "modern" cars, and which conforms to the > dreaded SM spec (half the ZDDP required by our engines) of API. They > (Brad > Penn) are also suppliers of lube oils for industrial applications. > > I think I may have mentioned the letter, with break-in instructions that > one > of my Triumph buddies got with his special order, Isky cam a few weeks > ago. > He gave me a copy of it, this weekend, but I haven't had the time to read > it, yet. I do, however, remember him telling me that Isky says that flat > tappet engines should NEVER use "full" synthetic oil......... Sorry to > tease you guys with just a tid bit of unexplained recommendation, from > Isky, > but I gotta read the letter before I can give you the full story. Sorry. > Bud Osbourne From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 20 19:14:24 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:14:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com><7F831BD8CA954F71B618C7C8E51CF4D5@Larry><622986277.20090720170051@pacifier.com><6D38DD840B374A158A9D251D15CB429F@Larry><74163C7CA2B247FAB32C393B907D38AC@OwnerPC><176678748.20090720173122@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Well, basically, if we look at that refinery as "the plantation", the slaves went with the plantation. That refinery was the original Kendall refinery. Conoco-Phillips bought the name, and American Refining group bought the refinery. However, that refinery never stopped producing the oil we knew as Kendall GT 1. It's just that after a certain date (in 1996, I think) they could no longer call it "Kendall". The personnel of the old Kendall Oil group all went with the refinery, when it was bought by American Refining. The guys in the lab are (allowing for retirements, and their replacements) the same guys who were there back in the "glory days" of Kendall GT-1 racing oil, and the company's involvement in big time, professional racing. Re: paraffin. I'm not all that familiar with what the refinery guys call "the tower" (the different stuff that comes out of each gallon of crude oil during the refining process). However, Pennsylvania Grade crude is known for having NO asphalt in the tower, and very little gasoline. There is a good reason why Pennsylvania Grade crude has long been known as the finest lube oil base stock in the entire world. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Bill L" ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > Close, Bill, but it was Kendall that they bought. They bought everything > but the "Kendall" name which was sold to somebody else. > > http://www.bradpennracing.com/ > > I'll refrain from commenting on the disingenuousness of selling a name to > the highest bidder, but the name's product to somebody else. Sleazy > bastards. > > > > LAD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill L" > To: > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 7:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > > > Hello, > > Just to open up a whole can of worms..... > > It is my understanding that Brad Penn oil is a top notch, A#1 > quality product and all around good company/corporation. I > believe, --correct me if I'm wrong-- that they now have > ownership of what WAS the PENNZOIL refinery, and only use pure > Pennsylvania crude in the manufacture of their products, UNLIKE > the present day Pennzoil that is now part of a corporate > conglomerate that puts oil from WHEREVER into its products. .. > > All that said, it has also always been my understanding that > Pennsylvania based crude has the highest PARAFFIN content of any > petroleum. > > If you want to run WAX in you engine that is all well and good, > just be sure to never put any REAL oil in your crankcase > afterwards...(or synthetic for that matter). > > (flame suit on) > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > What fools these morals be! From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 20 19:23:30 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:23:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> <1CB9FC9ECB604645B02108CCFD2B5897@OwnerPC> <309B5CB9BD1A48898D10F92523609D02@Larry> Message-ID: <760C9AC6AF244AA6BD0CF470F1C8DBBE@OwnerPC> Larry, I'd like to meet him, but, other than several email exchanges a few years back, I never have. I'm getting ready to build another engine, for my 356, and I do plan on using some of the stuff Charles' company produces. I know that the people at Brad Penn hold Charles in very high regard as someone who really knows what he is talking about. Charles was the one who steered me back to "the real thing", as far as lube oils are concerned. Like most of us long-time Kendall customers, I somehow missed the sleazy deal that placed Kendall GT-1 labels on oil that had NO resemblance, performance-wise, to the real thing. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube >I don't know if you ever met him, Bud, but the guy is actually very, very > bright and extremely committed to motorsports -- mainly Porsches, but, > what > the heck, I don't drive a Porsche anymore, but I still like "all" old > sports > cars. I was quite impressed by him. > > Larry From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 19:39:28 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <760C9AC6AF244AA6BD0CF470F1C8DBBE@OwnerPC> References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> <1CB9FC9ECB604645B02108CCFD2B5897@OwnerPC> <309B5CB9BD1A48898D10F92523609D02@Larry> <760C9AC6AF244AA6BD0CF470F1C8DBBE@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <552668.56575.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> So Brad Penn's "Break-in" motor oil is SAE 30..... is that OK for the A-Series? ________________________________ From: Bud Osbourne To: Larry Daniels ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:23:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Larry, I'd like to meet him, but, other than several email exchanges a few years back, I never have. I'm getting ready to build another engine, for my 356, and I do plan on using some of the stuff Charles' company produces. I know that the people at Brad Penn hold Charles in very high regard as someone who really knows what he is talking about. Charles was the one who steered me back to "the real thing", as far as lube oils are concerned. Like most of us long-time Kendall customers, I somehow missed the sleazy deal that placed Kendall GT-1 labels on oil that had NO resemblance, performance-wise, to the real thing. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > I don't know if you ever met him, Bud, but the guy is actually very, very > bright and extremely committed to motorsports -- mainly Porsches, but, what > the heck, I don't drive a Porsche anymore, but I still like "all" old sports > cars. I was quite impressed by him. > > Larry You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Mon Jul 20 19:55:04 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:55:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <552668.56575.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> <1CB9FC9ECB604645B02108CCFD2B5897@OwnerPC> <309B5CB9BD1A48898D10F92523609D02@Larry> <760C9AC6AF244AA6BD0CF470F1C8DBBE@OwnerPC> <552668.56575.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <404C74D2487845ABB1D990D7395900ED@OwnerPC> Yes. Remember, this is for break-in, which means that the oil must allow the rings to seat....which means, basically, to wear themselves to conform to the shape of the cylinders they are in. Too much lubrication protection means that the rings can't wear enough to become "seated". The break-in oil is not meant to stay in the engine for longer than it takes to seat the rings. It's called "break-in" oil for a good reason, so don't use it for anything but the short, break-in period. Years ago, when I used to build my own VW engines, I used non-detergent Kendall 10W, (20W in hot weather) as recommended by world-renowned, air-cooled VW guru Gene Berg, for the break-in period, which was only a few hundred miles. Those engines always gave me 100,000 miles of good service, before I tore them down for overhaul. I was always amazed by how little wear I found after that much mileage, on Kendall (now Brad Penn) oil. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: Edward Perez To: Bud Osbourne ; Larry Daniels ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:39 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube So Brad Penn's "Break-in" motor oil is SAE 30..... is that OK for the A-Series? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 20:25:03 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <402188520907201756rb438ed7s27c3806caa8eeab0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <973974.40456.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/20/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > 1600ppm would be 0.16% > Did I beat the rocket scientist? With a stick. BTW, 40 years ago right now my father was sitting on mission control at Houston, Engineering Manager for Environmental Control and Life Support System for the Lunar Module. He was the REAL rocket scientist! My stuff's been to space, but his stuff came back. Miss you Dad - Ron From eap2140 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 20:45:19 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:45:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <404C74D2487845ABB1D990D7395900ED@OwnerPC> References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry> <1CB9FC9ECB604645B02108CCFD2B5897@OwnerPC> <309B5CB9BD1A48898D10F92523609D02@Larry> <760C9AC6AF244AA6BD0CF470F1C8DBBE@OwnerPC> <552668.56575.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <404C74D2487845ABB1D990D7395900ED@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <68602.76335.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Should I drain the 20W/50 that's in it? It's only been turned over and ran for about 15 seconds, so nothing to lose. ________________________________ From: Bud Osbourne To: Edward Perez ; Larry Daniels ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:55:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Yes. Remember, this is for break-in, which means that the oil must allow the rings to seat....which means, basically, to wear themselves to conform to the shape of the cylinders they are in. Too much lubrication protection means that the rings can't wear enough to become "seated". The break-in oil is not meant to stay in the engine for longer than it takes to seat the rings. It's called "break-in" oil for a good reason, so don't use it for anything but the short, break-in period. Years ago, when I used to build my own VW engines, I used non-detergent Kendall 10W, (20W in hot weather) as recommended by world-renowned, air-cooled VW guru Gene Berg, for the break-in period, which was only a few hundred miles. Those engines always gave me 100,000 miles of good service, before I tore them down for overhaul. I was always amazed by how little wear I found after that much mileage, on Kendall (now Brad Penn) oil. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- >From: Edward Perez >To: Bud Osbourne ; Larry > Daniels ; spridgets at autox.team.net >Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 9:39 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > > >So Brad Penn's "Break-in" motor oil is SAE 30..... is that OK for the > A-Series? > > > > ________________________________ From 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET Mon Jul 20 21:11:29 2009 From: 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET (63ahbj7) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 22:11:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <288329.29730.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <288329.29730.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A6531E1.7040100@COMCAST.NET> <> NO synthetic should be used for break-ins EVER !!!! er, unless one wants to drive a car with un-seated rings & LOTS of smoke. Me From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 20 21:23:14 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:23:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <973974.40456.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <973974.40456.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A6534A2.8020908@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > > He was the REAL rocket scientist! My stuff's been to space, but his stuff came back. > > And if it's printed and on the moon, Clarici Graphics (formerly Frank A Clarici & Sons) printed it. Some came back, some stayed up there. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From davriker at nwi.net Mon Jul 20 21:23:59 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:23:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube References: <280273.81403.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com><9118E4B72A5A41949B55BC0779C8AB8B@Larry><1CB9FC9ECB604645B02108CCFD2B5897@OwnerPC><309B5CB9BD1A48898D10F92523609D02@Larry><760C9AC6AF244AA6BD0CF470F1C8DBBE@OwnerPC><552668.56575.qm@web33707.mail.mud.yahoo.com><404C74D2487845ABB1D990D7395900ED@OwnerPC> <68602.76335.qm@web33701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Question: I have an engine that never seemed to seat the rings in. It runs smooth as a sewing machine, but has blow by and oil consumption since the day it was assembled, actually, getting worse. Can I go back to break in oil and try again, or does it need torn down and re-honed? I guess I'd have nothing but 5 quarts of oil at stake by giving it a try. David R. PS, its an old Ford 260. > From: Bud Osbourne > To: Edward Perez ; Larry Daniels > ; spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 6:55:04 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > > > Yes. Remember, this is for break-in, which > means that the oil must allow the rings to seat....which means, basically, > to > wear themselves to conform to the shape of the cylinders they are in. Too > much lubrication protection means that the rings can't wear enough to > become > "seated". > The break-in oil is not meant to stay in the engine > for longer than it takes to seat the rings. It's called "break-in" > oil for a good reason, so don't use it for anything but the short, > break-in > period. From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 21:24:44 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <4A6534A2.8020908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <290241.3341.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Frank wrote: > And if it's printed and on the moon, Clarici Graphics > (formerly Frank A > Clarici & Sons) printed it. > Some came back, some stayed up there. Dad's name is on the plaque that stayed from Apollo 11! You've seen the Apollo 13 stuff at my house- that came back! Thanks to Frank A and sons!! Ron From cbaustin at verizon.net Mon Jul 20 21:24:43 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:24:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube References: <973974.40456.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6534A2.8020908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3142F035F231476194B27DCF974497A3@universal1> "Some came back, some stayed up there" Claricis or graphics?? Inquiring minds and all that! CB From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 20 21:34:34 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:34:34 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <3142F035F231476194B27DCF974497A3@universal1> References: <973974.40456.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6534A2.8020908@comcast.net> <3142F035F231476194B27DCF974497A3@universal1> Message-ID: <4A65374A.7000101@comcast.net> Charley Braum wrote: > "Some came back, some stayed up there" > > Claricis or graphics?? > > Inquiring minds and all that! > > My brother is lost in space, make that 2 of my brothers. But they never made it to the moon, they are just "OUT THERE" ;) From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Jul 20 21:36:11 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:36:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle In-Reply-To: <4A62978C.4020801@comcast.net> References: <4A62978C.4020801@comcast.net> Message-ID: <9DAD659B-2556-4818-BC81-DB0D57868EF1@phillymgclub.com> Hey proud Granddad, send me a pic ;-) Sounds like a fun, heart warming project for a nice weekend. Larry On Jul 18, 2009, at 11:48 PM, Frank wrote: > Frankie the 5th just took possession of his first classic British > vehicle. > A 1972 genuine English pram (aka baby buggy) > Back in 72, my soon to be boss was stationed in England, his wife > had a girl, she bought a cool looking baby buggy while over there. > His 2nd child also used that pram. Flash forward to 1979, I have a > son, my boss gives me the pram since his girls have out grown it, > now they are 7 and 5. > We use it for our kids until about 1983, now it's an aging baby buggy. > We gave it to relatives who used it and put it away until now. We > forgot about it, they gave it back today, a rusty fadded buggy. > So Diane bleached the frilly lace and repainted the snaps white, she > cleaned the Wilton Wool coach and I spent the day brass wheeling and > steel wooling all the chrome and each of the 14 spoke wire wheels > and bleaching the solid rubber white tires. > This thing came out stunning! All chrome wheels, frame, handle, > brake bars etc and a blue coach with white frilly. > It beats the heck out of the chinese made plastic POS the kids tried > to use. > This thing has chrome fenders over wire wheels! Not plastic molded > tires on plastic wheels with no fenders. > Oh there are no warning labels plastered all over the pram in 4 > languages and I guess the kid could get his fingers pinched if he > sticks them in the folding metal frame, or he could get sick if he > gnaws the chrome off the handle but it will not collapse if he jumps > around, the tires will not wear out after a few trips to Grandpa's > house, and there is not a spec of plastic on the thing anywhere. > Daughter in law loves it, all the neighbors saw it and the new born > today, the ladies admired the baby, the men admired the coach. > Now they can put the "new" buggy where it belongs, in the trash with > the rest of the chinese crap and maybe when my son becomes a > granddad, he can clean up the pram for his grandkid. I know it will > last another 37 years. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Jul 21 05:11:20 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:11:20 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MKI MG for sale In-Reply-To: <533414773.2557211247801799235.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <533414773.2557211247801799235.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <854D21FC-E628-4D1E-89DA-6675F7917C19@phillymgclub.com> I have been by the place a few times when the car was not in the lot at all. I do agree that it is not going to sale at that price, no matter what. I have never stopped to look at it. BTW Dean, where so you live?? Larry On Jul 16, 2009, at 11:36 PM, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > Dean, I didn't know you were in the area.B That car has been there > for > 3years.B It was the first sprite/midgit i looked at when i went > looking for > one. at that time he wanted $4k.B and despite what larry macy says > i drive > past that car 2 times a day and it has moved on 3 count them 3 > occasions in > the last three years.B from one side of the parking lot to another > and back. > > ryan kubanoff > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dean Hedin" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:50:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [Spridgets] MKI MG for sale > > If anyone is interested... > I saw a MKI midget for sale at Langhorne Speed Shop (In PA north of > the > turnpike on Rt 1). > > Body looks fair, typical battery tray rot. B Seats had covers over > them. > B Faded red paint, might be original. > > I did notice SU's had spun aluminum velocity stacks. B Distributor had > mechanical advance. > Somebody was playing around a bit. > > The shop owner said he wants $3500 but I don't think he is going to > get > anything near that for it. > > No interest here, I was just there to pick up some parts. > > It's been a while since I've seen a non rollup window car for sale > on the side > of the road. B > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From thcollin at mtu.edu Tue Jul 21 05:26:03 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:26:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <973974.40456.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <402188520907201756rb438ed7s27c3806caa8eeab0@mail.gmail.com> <973974.40456.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7ll0se$6nme0t@email.mtu.edu> > > Did I beat the rocket scientist? > >With a stick. Hmmmm. . . a discussion thread about sticks and another about oil. Maybe it's time to combine them? Think With Your Dipstick! .....Jimmy! Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jul 21 05:54:34 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:54:34 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube References: <402188520907201756rb438ed7s27c3806caa8eeab0@mail.gmail.com><973974.40456.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7ll0se$6nme0t@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Oil your dipstick? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Collins" To: "Ron Soave" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube >> > Did I beat the rocket scientist? >> >>With a stick. > > Hmmmm. . . a discussion thread about sticks and another about oil. > Maybe it's time to combine them? > > Think With Your Dipstick! .....Jimmy! > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 06:57:00 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:57:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <4A6534A2.8020908@comcast.net> References: <973974.40456.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4A6534A2.8020908@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907210557i4592bc1g841f5e5bba07ec88@mail.gmail.com> That's neat stuff, guys! Closest I ever got to the moon was one Saturday night in 1961 on the main drag in Owego NY. The moon was out the rear window of my buddy's '38 Plymouth. ;-) In 62 and 63 I worked summers at IBM Space Guidance Labs in Owego. That facility built all the Apollo guidance stuff but I never saw any of it. My Dad worked there too and did operations analysis on their military hardware including the Titan IIIc missile and the XB-70 so I guess he might have been termed a "rocket scientist". I'm pretty good with bottle rockets. Does that count? Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Frank wrote: > Ron Soave wrote: > >> >> He was the REAL rocket scientist! My stuff's been to space, but his stuff >> came back. >> >> >> > > And if it's printed and on the moon, Clarici Graphics (formerly Frank A > Clarici & Sons) printed it. > Some came back, some stayed up there. From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 07:25:16 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907210557i4592bc1g841f5e5bba07ec88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <740816.5392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Rent "October Sky" - GREAT movie. Bottle rockets and Estes count! --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > > I'm pretty good with bottle rockets. Does that count? From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 07:43:33 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:43:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <740816.5392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <740816.5392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <24329.44050.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> has this thread been hijacked, or what?? ________________________________ From: Ron Soave To: Jim Johnson Cc: Spridgets Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:25:16 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube Rent "October Sky" - GREAT movie. Bottle rockets and Estes count! --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > > I'm pretty good with bottle rockets. Does that count? You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 07:49:19 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Message-ID: <285348.89894.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You need to run the cam in for 20 minutes or so at 2500 - 3000 RPM. Do not idle it or run it for 15 second bursts or you will scuff the cam and/or lifters. You especially need a proper break in oil with ZDDP for cam run in. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Edward Perez wrote: > From: Edward Perez > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > To: "Bud Osbourne" , "Larry Daniels" , spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 9:45 PM > Should I drain the 20W/50 that's in > it? It's only been turned over and ran for about 15 > seconds, so nothing to lose. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 21 08:26:57 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:26:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <740816.5392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0907210557i4592bc1g841f5e5bba07ec88@mail.gmail.com> <740816.5392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I just watched October Sky last week. It seems to be playing now on the networks, though I forget what station I watched it on. My late father-in-law was involved in just about every major aerospace project that you can think of, including the Avro Arrow, and a lot of the well known satellites. I heard on the news today that the Apollo 11 landing craft was designed in Ontario, so maybe he was involved in that too? > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:25:16 -0700 > From: soavero at yahoo.com > To: bmwwxman at gmail.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube > > Rent "October Sky" - GREAT movie. Bottle rockets and Estes count! > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > > > I'm pretty good with bottle rockets. Does that count? From rbastedo at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 08:41:07 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:41:07 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite 'lightning bolt' steering wheel center - how to make it stay put? Message-ID: I've got the big 15" steering wheel from a MK1 in my Sprite and the horn push won't stay in. Horn works, but the push pops out from time to time and that's annoying. What's a good trick to make it stay put? Rick (going to ABFM on Saturday) Bastedo From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jul 21 08:47:41 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite 'lightning bolt' steering wheel center - how to make it stay put? Message-ID: <404770.46329.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> double over a strip of thin cardboard. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Rick Bastedo wrote: From: Rick Bastedo Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite 'lightning bolt' steering wheel center - how to make it stay put? To: "SPRIDGETS" Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:41 AM I've got the big 15" steering wheel from a MK1 in my Sprite and the horn push won't stay in. Horn works, but the push pops out from time to time and that's annoying. What's a good trick to make it stay put? From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Tue Jul 21 08:59:25 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:59:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube Message-ID: <1670201ca0a13$d6bd5870$0168010a@mail2world.com> I guess that makes me a "rocket scientist". I built my fair share of Estes as a kid. :) Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Ron Soave [soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: 7/21/2009 9:27:16 AM To: bmwwxman at gmail.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube Rent "October Sky" - GREAT movie. Bottle rockets and Estes count! --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > > I'm pretty good with bottle rockets. Does that count? _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 21 09:17:45 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:17:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <1670201ca0a13$d6bd5870$0168010a@mail2world.com> References: <1670201ca0a13$d6bd5870$0168010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: Dear ol' Dad was a flight surgeon, worked on Mercury, Gemini, and a few Apollo, they sent him out to the middle of nowhere to tracking stations. Until someone tossed it out of the house I had autographed pics of the early astronauts as well as every patch from Mercury to Apollo. I built models of all the rockets, LEM, etc. Didn't use those nasty solid fuel Estes, I used the Vashon (?) rockets, they used propane I think. They did NOT work at all well in Alaska where it was so damn cold that the Propane didn't expand.. no flame, just expanding gas to make 'em work.. Lester On Jul 21, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Chris King wrote: > I guess that makes me a "rocket scientist". I built my fair share of > Estes as a kid. :) > > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > <-----Original Message-----> > > From: Ron Soave [soavero at yahoo.com] > Sent: 7/21/2009 9:27:16 AM > To: bmwwxman at gmail.com > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube > > Rent "October Sky" - GREAT movie. Bottle rockets and Estes count! > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> >> I'm pretty good with bottle rockets. Does that count? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 21 09:34:29 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:34:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube References: <43840a7e0907210557i4592bc1g841f5e5bba07ec88@mail.gmail.com><740816.5392.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <31F4D354B4CC4623A47DFF2AB3A6A2B0@Larry> Oh, yeah? Well, I have it on good authority that the green cheese that the moon is made of came from right here in Wisconsin. How's that for one-upmanship? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube I just watched October Sky last week. It seems to be playing now on the networks, though I forget what station I watched it on. My late father-in-law was involved in just about every major aerospace project that you can think of, including the Avro Arrow, and a lot of the well known satellites. I heard on the news today that the Apollo 11 landing craft was designed in Ontario, so maybe he was involved in that too? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 21 09:35:52 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:35:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite 'lightning bolt' steering wheel center - how to make it stay put? References: Message-ID: <8164FE5CA7E048CE83B9A8DFC57793FA@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Bastedo" To: "SPRIDGETS" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite 'lightning bolt' steering wheel center - how to make it stay put? I've got the big 15" steering wheel from a MK1 in my Sprite and the horn push won't stay in. Horn works, but the push pops out from time to time and that's annoying. What's a good trick to make it stay put? Rick (going to ABFM on Saturday) Bastedo _______________________________________________ Duct tape. LAD "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." From jmfarley61 at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 09:51:24 2009 From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com (John Farley) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:51:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing Cont'd. Message-ID: <69759f980907210851g1cc6f69dqe865183ffe8dec90@mail.gmail.com> Yesterday I sent an e-mail to the list with questions about engine breathing for my 1275 bugeye. I received two responses (David L. & Bill M.). I am not sure if I am getting all Spridget list communications, so if anybody else responded, please re-send to me off list. I am interested in how folks have set their engine crankcase ventilation systems. Any inputs would be appreciated. Thanks, John From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Jul 21 10:05:56 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:05:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube References: <1670201ca0a13$d6bd5870$0168010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <592EC2AA834541C888BA85105D6F39D6@CT> My Dad was also a Flight Surgeon in WW II. He had a really tough job. He worked in a climatic hangar doing the physiology on pilots that were preparing to fly to Russia. They developed the famous leather and sheep skin flight jackets, gloves, hats and other clothing to be used for long cold flights over the north pole. One might wonder where this all took place? Well it was Ft. Walton, Florida at Eglin Air Base. Yep, a -40 degree hangar on the beach! Can you imagine the amount of power it took to drop the temp 130 degrees in the Florida heat? Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: Lester Dear ol' Dad was a flight surgeon., From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 10:05:58 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:05:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite 'lightning bolt' steering wheel center - how to make it stay put? In-Reply-To: <8164FE5CA7E048CE83B9A8DFC57793FA@Larry> References: <8164FE5CA7E048CE83B9A8DFC57793FA@Larry> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907210905o26122d21k871f0b23d12e9c47@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > "You only need two tools: WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it > doesn't move and should, use the WD-40. If it > shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape." Actually I think that you need three tools - you forgot the BFH. "If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem." From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 10:19:35 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:19:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <592EC2AA834541C888BA85105D6F39D6@CT> References: <1670201ca0a13$d6bd5870$0168010a@mail2world.com> <592EC2AA834541C888BA85105D6F39D6@CT> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907210919q5e0cb329le67f12c1dd13a17e@mail.gmail.com> Boy, Mark. Whoever came up with the idea of putting that facility at Eglin would fit right in with today's government wouldn't they! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Mark wrote: > My Dad was also a Flight Surgeon in WW II. He had a really tough job. He > worked in a climatic hangar doing the physiology on pilots that were > preparing > to fly to Russia. They developed the famous leather and sheep skin flight > jackets, gloves, hats and other clothing to be used for long cold flights > over > the north pole. One might wonder where this all took place? Well it was > Ft. > Walton, Florida at Eglin Air Base. Yep, a -40 degree hangar on the beach! > Can you imagine the amount of power it took to drop the temp 130 degrees in > the Florida heat? > > Mark > Nashville From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jul 21 10:40:58 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:40:58 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing Message-ID: Hi, John... your intake manifold PCV valve contains a "graduated orifice" or port of a specific size venting crankcase gasses (pressures) "outbound". In order to work correctly, it requires an "inbound" port (as above), which is normally the stock 'filtered' oil cap. Simply "cap" the valve cover "takeoff" port which, in later emissions cars WAS the inbound "graduated orifice" for crankcase intake air from a 'carbon cannister'. In pre-emissions applications ('open' crankcase) this valve cover takeoff had a far larger opening (1/2" or so) for venting crankcase gasses to one of the air cleaners. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 21 11:24:47 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:24:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Please ... this is a family list!! ;) > From: pilotrob at webtv.net "graduated orifice" From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 11:45:19 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:45:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line Message-ID: <37dc82d40907211045s6cb8552ag205e5667f737e7de@mail.gmail.com> I think Red Line has gone "South" only as a break in. . but should still be top notch with ZDDP for after break in use. . . what I got from the statement anyway? I have seen Harleys break in on their own synthetic. . and I believe that Red Line says that you can break in a motor with their oil. Harley recommends break in with their synthetic. However, I would stay to the safe side and use Penn Grade 1 Break in - and then go to Re Line or Amsoil for the long run, if so interested. The old adage still holds. . if you change it regularly and run a non synthetic, or in our case diesel oil, you will be in just as good shape. I have seen many Harley Evo's at the 150k and above mark running fine, only because the owner changed the oil on a regular basis. . typically at the 2500 mile mark, or at least before 3k. And they were using non-synthetic Harley oil (before the Motor Company came out with their own synthetic version). Also, as most if not all of you are aware. . synthetic comes from the same base stock as does non synthetic. (I still run into people who think that synthetic is made of non natural components, as developed in a lab not having a regular base stock to begin with). This might be due to the fact that some of the oil companies came out with a graphite oil, and other non natural base oils in the latter 1970's. . which in turn were pulled from the market. The difference is in the breakdown of a consistent ten chain molecular structure for synthetic as opposed to an uneven breakdown in non synthetic. . and of couse whatever additives are put in. The illustration might be that it is harder to light a phone book than a pile of leaves. The tighter structure deals with heat better, etc. Kirk From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 12:13:03 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <387055.67511.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 7/21/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca > 11 landing craft was > designed in Ontario, so maybe he was involved in that too? Lunar Module was designed and built in Bethpage NY. Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 12:16:42 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists and Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <592EC2AA834541C888BA85105D6F39D6@CT> Message-ID: <468983.20261.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Mark wrote: > Walton, Florida at Eglin Air Base. Yep, a -40 degree > hangar on the beach! > Can you imagine the amount of power it took to drop the > temp 130 degrees in > the Florida heat? Still does. The aircraft I'm currently working on just finished its hangar icing test at Eglin in May/June. They do natural and hangar tests on new airframes. Lottttss of insulation. Ron From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 21 12:20:47 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:20:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907211045s6cb8552ag205e5667f737e7de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > and I believe that > Red Line says that you can break in a motor with their oil. Redline says you should NOT break in a motor with any synthetic, including theirs. I spoke with Dave at Redline twice last week. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Tue Jul 21 12:29:12 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:29:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line Message-ID: <306df01ca0a31$24f4d1e0$116a010a@mail2world.com> I remember the graphite oils; my father thought they were great - he ran it in his '78 suburban and never had a problem. Why were they pulled? Was it a technical issue, or simply that people didn't want to buy a black oil? -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Kirk Hargreaves [khargreaves2 at gmail.com] Sent: 7/21/2009 1:46:19 PM To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line I think Red Line has gone "South" only as a break in. . but should still be top notch with ZDDP for after break in use. . . what I got from the statement anyway? I have seen Harleys break in on their own synthetic. . and I believe that Red Line says that you can break in a motor with their oil. Harley recommends break in with their synthetic. However, I would stay to the safe side and use Penn Grade 1 Break in - and then go to Re Line or Amsoil for the long run, if so interested. The old adage still holds. . if you change it regularly and run a non synthetic, or in our case diesel oil, you will be in just as good shape. I have seen many Harley Evo's at the 150k and above mark running fine, only because the owner changed the oil on a regular basis. . typically at the 2500 mile mark, or at least before 3k. And they were using non-synthetic Harley oil (before the Motor Company came out with their own synthetic version). Also, as most if not all of you are aware. . synthetic comes from the same base stock as does non synthetic. (I still run into people who think that synthetic is made of non natural components, as developed in a lab not having a regular base stock to begin with). This might be due to the fact that some of the oil companies came out with a graphite oil, and other non natural base oils in the latter 1970's. . which in turn were pulled from the market. The difference is in the breakdown of a consistent ten chain molecular structure for synthetic as opposed to an uneven breakdown in non synthetic. .. and of couse whatever additives are put in. The illustration might be that it is harder to light a phone book than a pile of leaves. The tighter structure deals with heat better, etc. Kirk _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From kk7ss at verizon.net Tue Jul 21 12:38:38 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:38:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line In-Reply-To: <306df01ca0a31$24f4d1e0$116a010a@mail2world.com> References: <306df01ca0a31$24f4d1e0$116a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <4A65A8BE.9251.FA63D5@kk7ss.verizon.net> Molyslip,. Moly G, etc... ??? I thought you could still get them from Canada... (I know I'll be corrected if I'm wrong!) On 21 Jul 2009 at 11:29, Chris King wrote: >> I remember the graphite oils; my father thought they were great - he >> ran it in his '78 suburban and never had a problem. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 21 12:44:24 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:44:24 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists In-Reply-To: <387055.67511.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <387055.67511.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Well, I heard on our news this morning that the 'landing craft' was designed in Ontario. It's not April 1st, is it? :) Maybe I heard it wrong though. It was 5:30 am! :) Maybe it was an engineer "from" Ontario? http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/defencewatch/archive/2009/0 7/19/avro-arrow-engineers-and-canadian-contributions-to-apollo-moon-landing-h ighlighted.aspx "Hear for the first time in 40 years Canadian Owen Maynard, former Head of NASAs Lunar Module Program and Avro Arrow Engineer discuss his design of the Apollo Lunar Module" > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:13:03 -0700 > From: soavero at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > 11 landing craft was > > designed in Ontario, so maybe he was involved in that too? > > Lunar Module was designed and built in Bethpage NY. > > Ron From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 21 12:50:59 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:50:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ontario California? They have a raceway there too. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 21 13:05:01 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:05:01 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What's 'California'? ;) > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:50:59 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists > From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com > To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net > > Ontario California? They have a raceway there too. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 21 13:17:55 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:17:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EA36B17-14A5-438A-9FFA-3CD4E388E25A@comcast.net> We have Raceway's here too, not the best gas but cheap! Lester On Jul 21, 2009, at 2:05 PM, wrote: > What's 'California'? ;) > >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:50:59 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists >> From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com >> To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net >> >> Ontario California? They have a raceway there too. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 21 14:24:03 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:24:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A6623E3.1010804@sbcglobal.net> Is there any value to switching to ZDDP-rich oil in an engine that is ALREADY broken in, say ~5000 miles? Or does this only apply to newly rebuilt engines? I'm so confused, but no smoke or oil consumption and the valves keep their settings. From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 14:43:28 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <4A6623E3.1010804@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <629766.72087.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Switch now. It's all about wear. Lee Fox wrote: > Is there any value to switching to ZDDP-rich oil in an engine that is ALREADY broken in, say ~5000 miles? > Or does this only apply to newly rebuilt engines? > I'm so confused, but no smoke or oil consumption and the valves keep their settings. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > http://www.team.net/archive > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jul 21 14:50:58 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:50:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? Message-ID: <7AF573BAFC2F41FE8450EBD35A772325@spider> Tires made from trees -- better, cheaper, more fuel efficient CORVALLIS, Ore. - Automobile owners around the world may some day soon be driving on tires that are partly made out of trees - which could cost less, perform better and save on fuel and energy. Wood science researchers at Oregon State University have made some surprising findings about the potential of microcrystalline cellulose - a product that can be made easily from almost any type of plant fibers - to partially replace silica as a reinforcing filler in the manufacture of rubber tires. A new study suggests that this approach might decrease the energy required to produce the tire, reduce costs, and better resist heat buildup. Early tests indicate that such products would have comparable traction on cold or wet pavement, be just as strong, and provide even higher fuel efficiency than traditional tires in hot weather. >From http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-07/osu-tmf072109.php From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 14:51:29 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:51:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists In-Reply-To: References: <387055.67511.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907211351q4a2c4df2t1fd8f914a8c5cfcf@mail.gmail.com> RD, I think you'll find that Owen was one of the engineers on the team at Grumman Aerospace, Bethpage, NY (its on Long Island). The craft was designed and built by the team at Grumman. All the LEMs were built there. Sorry to burst your Maple Leaf bubble.... Guy that worked with my Dad was on the team..... See: *http://tinyurl.com/nn2vxa* Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM, wrote: > Well, I heard on our news this morning that the 'landing craft' was > designed > in Ontario. It's not April 1st, is it? :) > > > > Maybe I heard it wrong though. It was 5:30 am! :) Maybe it was an > engineer > "from" Ontario? > > > > > http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/defencewatch/archive/2009/0 > > 7/19/avro-arrow-engineers-and-canadian-contributions-to-apollo-moon-landing-h > ighlighted.aspx > > > > > > > > "Hear for the first time in 40 years Canadian Owen Maynard, former Head of > NASA s Lunar > Module Program and Avro Arrow Engineer discuss his design of the Apollo > Lunar > Module" > > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:13:03 -0700 > > From: soavero at yahoo.com > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists > > > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > > 11 landing craft was > > > designed in Ontario, so maybe he was involved in that too? > > > > Lunar Module was designed and built in Bethpage NY. > > > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From mikey at b2systems.com Tue Jul 21 15:03:42 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:03:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? In-Reply-To: <7AF573BAFC2F41FE8450EBD35A772325@spider> References: <7AF573BAFC2F41FE8450EBD35A772325@spider> Message-ID: <1248210222.3776.204.camel@WebBrowser> I can see the obit already... Mr. So-and-so, died when he lost control of his car, police said the cause of the accident was low tire pressure due to termites. On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 13:50 -0700, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > Tires made from trees -- better, cheaper, more fuel efficient > > > CORVALLIS, Ore. - Automobile owners around the world may some day soon be > driving on tires that are partly made out of trees - which could cost less, > perform better and save on fuel and energy. > > Wood science researchers at Oregon State University have made some > surprising findings about the potential of microcrystalline cellulose - a > product that can be made easily from almost any type of plant fibers - to > partially replace silica as a reinforcing filler in the manufacture of > rubber tires. > > A new study suggests that this approach might decrease the energy required > to produce the tire, reduce costs, and better resist heat buildup. Early > tests indicate that such products would have comparable traction on cold or > wet pavement, be just as strong, and provide even higher fuel efficiency > than traditional tires in hot weather. From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 21 15:05:11 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:05:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Everybody Digs it! In-Reply-To: <251827.20336.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <251827.20336.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the props Dave. Could be because of all the smoke it emits while idling around too. Clears out the Mosquitos It REALLY doesn't like to do that, it gets loaded up and takes a while to clear it's throat afterwards. I have to thank Frank again for the HUGE assist in finishing it. Couldn't have done it without ya! You also did an awesome job on the interior and Walt on the seats. Still some bugs to get worked out, but getting there. Took it to a high end tunig shop that my nephew works at yesterday. Young mechanics had never heard of one and really thought it was cool. Even amongst the Porsche Turbos and Ferraris that they had in the shop. He's trying to talk me into turboing it, LOL. Kids...... Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:01:05 -0700 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Subject: Everybody Digs it! To: soavero at yahoo.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; bugeye15 at hotmail.com --- On Mon, 7/20/09, brian S wrote: "The car definitely has it." I can confirm Brian's assessment of his Bugeye's crowd-drawing abilities. I was standing with friends at their X1/9 (they alternate bringing this and their '69 Elan) when Brian drove by. Every head on that side of the parking lot followed his progress. By the time he got it backed into a space, there were already quite a few people gawking / commenting / asking questions, with others on the way. At one point, Brian and I took a walk to check out the other cars. When we returned, you could not see his car which was sitting between two larger cars, but you knew where it was because of the crowd standing around it. Part of the draw is obviously the fact that Bugeyes have never been common, and are downright rare now. BUT... at least part of the draw of this particular car is the edginess it has when compared to most other LBC's. The big roll bar, real magnesium wheels, fat sticky tires poking out from under each fender, rowdy exhaust note and cam timing all practically scream "race-car!" as it rumbles by. When he opens the forward-tilting bonnet, the header and polished intake trumpets do little to alter the initial impression that this thing would be a blast to drive or ride in. Get used to it Brian - You are a celebrity by association as long as you drive that little beast in public. David Booker Long Island _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the webs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From mikey at b2systems.com Tue Jul 21 15:07:27 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:07:27 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <4A6623E3.1010804@sbcglobal.net> References: <4A6623E3.1010804@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1248210447.3776.208.camel@WebBrowser> This subject is a little bit like religion and politics, for every person that says its good, you will find one that says its a waste. For me, I have never heard of ZDDP causing a problem so I assume its safe to use, does it do any good ? I don't know, I have read both good and nothing but it does no harm so its cheap insurance and I use it as a result. mike On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 15:24 -0500, Lee Fox wrote: > Is there any value to switching to ZDDP-rich oil in an engine that is > ALREADY broken in, say ~5000 miles? > > Or does this only apply to newly rebuilt engines? > > I'm so confused, but no smoke or oil consumption and the valves keep > their settings. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jul 21 15:07:55 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets Message-ID: <200907212107.n6LL7tmZ002023@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> These days I use Rotella-T 15-40. My understanding is that the ZDDP level is still good. I'd prefer a single weight since I heard that the additives that give the multi-weight properties can add to turbo bearing coking. At this age, I only enjoy coke in cans. Anybody else using Rotella? Glen From bighealey at charter.net Tue Jul 21 15:09:44 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:09:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing Cont'd. In-Reply-To: <69759f980907210851g1cc6f69dqe865183ffe8dec90@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090721170944.L70ZM.2173966.root@mp18> On 1500 Replace mechanical fuel pump with Carter 4070. Installed a pump blanking plate and tapped and installed a fitting. Ran breather hose from crank and "t"ed into the valve cover. On 1275 I run it straight from the breather oil seperator on front engine plate to the air cleaner. ---- John Farley wrote: > Yesterday I sent an e-mail to the list with questions about engine breathing > for my 1275 bugeye. I received two responses (David L. & Bill M.). I am > not sure if I am getting all Spridget list communications, so if > anybody else responded, please re-send to me off list. > > I am interested in how folks have set their engine crankcase ventilation > systems. Any inputs would be appreciated. > > Thanks, John > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jul 21 15:14:42 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:14:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch In-Reply-To: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> References: <42A2677C13284903B7DF352C72C53870@Home> Message-ID: Naaah Mike, You don't want to use that lil 1098. You want a 1275. If you want I'll drag the 1098 away for ya.... :-) I have a worked up 1275 12g940 head, but you'd probably need to use dished pistons with it, as it's been shaved and reportedly would give you a 12.5:1 CR with flatops. AS far as the shelving project, I get that response too for some projects too, LOL. Good Job!! Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:43:43 -0400 > From: mdrowe at optonline.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Head switch > > >From Craig's List: > >1098 block has been replaced with a 1275. Have the 1275 head but my > >1098 head was re-seated and valved so I had the water ports redrilled > >and run it on the 1275 block., > > I have a 1098 engine that I am told had a lot of head work by some famous builder years ago. Does this switch make any sense? The 1098 engine has a hot cam and maybe some other goodies as well, so maybe it is best to use it as-is? > > I just completed the most onerous job known to man - emptying my basement. The floor is subject to hurricane tides, so I took everything out, put in six 2'x8' shelves against the walls, sorted the BE parts by type (duplicates of duplicates, condition unknown), and put it all back. I was hoping to get points from my wife, but all I got was, "It's about time!" > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > '60 Sprite kit > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jul 21 15:14:42 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:14:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing Cont'd. Message-ID: <200907212114.n6LLEgwV018669@syrphus.ucdavis.edu> John, I've got a Titan timing belt w/unvented cover, so I draw from a vent drilled into the fuel pump spot on the block. I also draw from the timing cover and tee the hoses together just before the "flying saucer" gulp valve. The valve goes into the intake between the throttle body and the turbo. When all is good, the garage floor stays DRY. Glen Byrns From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 21 15:23:55 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:23:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? In-Reply-To: <1248210222.3776.204.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: > such products would have comparable traction Comparable to what? There's a HUGE difference between brands and models. Most current 13" tires aren't suitable for vehicles with motors. And just how will this affect the Rain Forrest? From kk7ss at verizon.net Tue Jul 21 15:26:28 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:26:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing Cont'd. In-Reply-To: <20090721170944.L70ZM.2173966.root@mp18> References: <69759f980907210851g1cc6f69dqe865183ffe8dec90@mail.gmail.com>, <20090721170944.L70ZM.2173966.root@mp18> Message-ID: <4A65D014.22740.1940890@kk7ss.verizon.net> But if, like mine, there is no oil seperator on the timing cover, what do you do then ?? Also a 1275... On 21 Jul 2009 at 14:09, bighealey at charter.net wrote: >> On 1275 >> >> I run it straight from the breather oil seperator on front engine >> plate to the air cleaner. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 21 15:41:42 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:41:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? In-Reply-To: <1248210222.3776.204.camel@WebBrowser> References: <7AF573BAFC2F41FE8450EBD35A772325@spider> <1248210222.3776.204.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <54FD70ED-0F86-40FE-BB99-B25F78FA4226@comcast.net> Nah, it'll be so and so died after the tire temp exceeded 120 degrees and all of the filler burned out... Lester On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:03 PM, mike rambour wrote: > I can see the obit already... > > Mr. So-and-so, died when he lost control of his car, police said the > cause of the accident was low tire pressure due to termites. > > > On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 13:50 -0700, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: >> Tires made from trees -- better, cheaper, more fuel efficient >> >> >> CORVALLIS, Ore. - Automobile owners around the world may some day >> soon be >> driving on tires that are partly made out of trees - which could >> cost less, >> perform better and save on fuel and energy. >> >> Wood science researchers at Oregon State University have made some >> surprising findings about the potential of microcrystalline >> cellulose - a >> product that can be made easily from almost any type of plant >> fibers - to >> partially replace silica as a reinforcing filler in the manufacture >> of >> rubber tires. >> >> A new study suggests that this approach might decrease the energy >> required >> to produce the tire, reduce costs, and better resist heat buildup. >> Early >> tests indicate that such products would have comparable traction on >> cold or >> wet pavement, be just as strong, and provide even higher fuel >> efficiency >> than traditional tires in hot weather. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 21 15:49:01 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:49:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907211351q4a2c4df2t1fd8f914a8c5cfcf@mail.gmail.com> References: <387055.67511.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0907211351q4a2c4df2t1fd8f914a8c5cfcf@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: No big argument here. I was just saying what I (mis?)heard on the news. I didn't record it so I can't verify. ( I wasn't that interested. I'm not an engineer! ) Everything that I found in print on the web stated that it was built in the US but on a Canadian site it says that it was a Canadian's design. ( quoted below. ) Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. _____ From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: July 21, 2009 4:51 PM To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists RD, I think you'll find that Owen was one of the engineers on the team at Grumman Aerospace, Bethpage, NY (its on Long Island). The craft was designed and built by the team at Grumman. All the LEMs were built there. Sorry to burst your Maple Leaf bubble.... Guy that worked with my Dad was on the team..... See: http://tinyurl.com/nn2vxa Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 1:44 PM, wrote: Well, I heard on our news this morning that the 'landing craft' was designed in Ontario. It's not April 1st, is it? :) Maybe I heard it wrong though. It was 5:30 am! :) Maybe it was an engineer "from" Ontario? http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/defencewatch/archive/2009/ 0 7/19/avro-arrow-engineers-and-canadian-contributions-to-apollo-moon-landing- h ighlighted.aspx "Hear for the first time in 40 years Canadian Owen Maynard, former Head of NASA s Lunar Module Program and Avro Arrow Engineer discuss his design of the Apollo Lunar Module" > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:13:03 -0700 > From: soavero at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > 11 landing craft was > > designed in Ontario, so maybe he was involved in that too? > > Lunar Module was designed and built in Bethpage NY. > > Ron From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 21 15:59:40 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:59:40 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but a great car story Message-ID: <4A663A4C.4040702@comcast.net> Video of Romancing the Road by Growing Bolder, at growingbolder.com -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 15:58:30 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Rocket scientists Message-ID: <219974.17641.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Robert Duquette wrote: > Everything that I found in print on the web stated that it > was built in the > US but on a Canadian site it says that it was a Canadian's > design. ( quoted > below. ) Doesn't matter to me one way or the other. It was Bethpage - trust me on this one. As I mentioned earlier, Dad was Engineering manager for Environmental Control and Life Support Systems for LEM - he even has a memorial brick on the Spacewalk at Cape Canaveral. Ron From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 21 15:59:41 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:59:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A663A4D.6000008@sbcglobal.net> Wow, what goes around comes around (pun intended.) Tires were originally made from trees - rubber trees! Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:50:58 -0700 From: Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? To: Message-ID: <7AF573BAFC2F41FE8450EBD35A772325 at spider> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Tires made from trees -- better, cheaper, more fuel efficient CORVALLIS, Ore. - Automobile owners around the world may some day soon be driving on tires that are partly made out of trees - which could cost less, perform better and save on fuel and energy. Wood science researchers at Oregon State University have made some surprising findings about the potential of microcrystalline cellulose - a product that can be made easily from almost any type of plant fibers - to partially replace silica as a reinforcing filler in the manufacture of rubber tires. A new study suggests that this approach might decrease the energy required to produce the tire, reduce costs, and better resist heat buildup. Early tests indicate that such products would have comparable traction on cold or wet pavement, be just as strong, and provide even higher fuel efficiency than traditional tires in hot weather. >From http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-07/osu-tmf072109.php From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 16:02:42 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:02:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <200907212107.n6LL7tmZ002023@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> References: <200907212107.n6LL7tmZ002023@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: I'm using Rotella, because after calling Castrol, and speaking with their engineers, they didn't offer anything that had sufficient ZDDP for break in. Shell did, in their diesel oil line, so I keep gallons of Rotella 15-30 in the cabinet. Diesel engines for the big trucks still need as much ZDDP as our cars do. Plus, I've never been an "oil snob". Brad On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > These days I use Rotella-T 15-40. My understanding is that the ZDDP level > is still good. I'd prefer a single weight since I heard that the additives > that give the multi-weight properties can add to turbo bearing coking. At > this age, I only enjoy coke in cans. > > Anybody else using Rotella? > > Glen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 16:28:45 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:28:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <200907212107.n6LL7tmZ002023@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907211528v785e6e24i4e72afac147f637e@mail.gmail.com> What Brad and Glen said..... Rotella-T is what the antique bike guys use too. I still have a few bottles of ZDDP additive to use up but when they are gone its Rotella-T for the Midget and the old bikes. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I'm using Rotella, because after calling Castrol, and speaking with their > engineers, they didn't offer anything that had sufficient ZDDP for break > in. > Shell did, in their diesel oil line, so I keep gallons of Rotella 15-30 in > the cabinet. Diesel engines for the big trucks still need as much ZDDP as > our cars do. Plus, I've never been an "oil snob". > > Brad > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > > > These days I use Rotella-T 15-40. My understanding is that the ZDDP > level > > is still good. I'd prefer a single weight since I heard that the > additives > > that give the multi-weight properties can add to turbo bearing coking. > At > > this age, I only enjoy coke in cans. > > > > Anybody else using Rotella? > > > > Glen > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jul 21 16:31:26 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:31:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? In-Reply-To: <54FD70ED-0F86-40FE-BB99-B25F78FA4226@comcast.net> References: <7AF573BAFC2F41FE8450EBD35A772325@spider><1248210222.3776.204.camel@WebBrowser> <54FD70ED-0F86-40FE-BB99-B25F78FA4226@comcast.net> Message-ID: <70F9B638E9454105BE3634247A893FB9@BASEMENTDELL> New meaning to "bark the tires" Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:42 PM To: spridgets - Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? Nah, it'll be so and so died after the tire temp exceeded 120 degrees and all of the filler burned out... Lester On Jul 21, 2009, at 4:03 PM, mike rambour wrote: > I can see the obit already... > > Mr. So-and-so, died when he lost control of his car, police said the > cause of the accident was low tire pressure due to termites. From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jul 21 18:32:51 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:32:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907211528v785e6e24i4e72afac147f637e@mail.gmail.co m> References: <200907212107.n6LL7tmZ002023@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0907211528v785e6e24i4e72afac147f637e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200907211532749.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Y'all might want to inspect the label. Rotella has some product that meets SL or SM which necessarily means less to none of ZDDP. (I think I have that right) Newer diesels are using cats. Peter C = At 03:28 PM 7/21/2009, Jim Johnson wrote: >What Brad and Glen said..... > >Rotella-T is what the antique bike guys use too. I still have a few bottles >of ZDDP additive to use up but when they are gone its Rotella-T for the >Midget and the old bikes. > >Cheers!! >Jim > >On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > > > I'm using Rotella, because after calling Castrol, and speaking with their > > engineers, they didn't offer anything that had sufficient ZDDP for break > > in. > > Shell did, in their diesel oil line, so I keep gallons of Rotella 15-30 in > > the cabinet. Diesel engines for the big trucks still need as much ZDDP as > > our cars do. Plus, I've never been an "oil snob". > > > > Brad > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > > > > > These days I use Rotella-T 15-40. My understanding is that the ZDDP > > level > > > is still good. I'd prefer a single weight since I heard that the > > additives > > > that give the multi-weight properties can add to turbo bearing coking. > > At > > > this age, I only enjoy coke in cans. > > > > > > Anybody else using Rotella? > > > > > > Glen > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > DON JULIO 1942 > > > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > >-- >Cheers!! >Jim >Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am >not >sure about the former.- Albert Einstein >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as peter at nosimport.com > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.22/2253 - Release Date: >07/21/09 18:02:00 From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 21 17:46:15 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:46:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-Bellevue Message-ID: <1173620516.20090721164615@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Wonderin' how many are planning to show up for the show and how many will actually be entering their rides? I'll be there as usual, with the RED Sprite with the BLACK grill and the autox.team.net sticker on the windscreen. I know several of the N.O.S.H.I.T. listers plan to attend, but not about others. ???? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "One of the tires just blew out," Tom said sparingly. (*2) From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 21 19:18:24 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:18:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? In-Reply-To: <4A663A4D.6000008@sbcglobal.net> References: <4A663A4D.6000008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4A6668E0.6060703@comcast.net> Lee Fox wrote: > Wow, what goes around comes around (pun intended.) > Tires were originally made from trees - rubber trees! I was going to say the same thing. I am still looking for the tree that grows money. My Father kept asking if I thought money grew on trees and I always told him yes it does because it's made from paper. All I got out of that was another red mark on my butt from his belt :( -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 19:15:08 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:15:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but a great car story In-Reply-To: <4A663A4C.4040702@comcast.net> References: <4A663A4C.4040702@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430907211815r715c8651vc6583ce10170124c@mail.gmail.com> Cool, you go girl : )Lin On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Frank wrote: > Video of Romancing the Road by Growing Bolder, at growingbolder.com > < > http://growingbolder.com/media/technology/vehicles/romancing-the-road-259598.html > > > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 21 19:24:30 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:24:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <200907211532749.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907212107.n6LL7tmZ002023@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0907211528v785e6e24i4e72afac147f637e@mail.gmail.com> <200907211532749.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4A666A4E.6040506@comcast.net> Peter Caldwell wrote: > Y'all might want to inspect the label. Rotella has some product that > meets SL or SM which necessarily means less to none of ZDDP. > (I think I have that right) Newer diesels are using cats. > I have been using Castrol 20/50 since it had liquid tungsten in it. They have changed the formula over the years but I still beat the crap out of my Sprites and never had an oil related problem. My 59 is a bit tired these days and I plan on refreshing it this coming winter including new rings and bearings but it has been about 10 years or more since I did the rebuild on that engine. 2 body shells, same engine. PIECES was rebuilt in 1983, that engine saw 3 different bodys before it was sold. If you ask me, all this oil stuff is a load of crap, the same crap with unleaded gas. Oh you need a no lead head now, well I never have done a no lead head and I never had ANY valve related problems EVER on any Sprite. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 19:26:05 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:26:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <4A666A4E.6040506@comcast.net> References: <200907212107.n6LL7tmZ002023@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0907211528v785e6e24i4e72afac147f637e@mail.gmail.com> <200907211532749.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4A666A4E.6040506@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907211826m10201ca7sddbdf359f5e03b17@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Frank wrote: > If you ask me, all this oil stuff is a load of crap, the same crap with > unleaded gas. > Oh you need a no lead head now, well I never have done a no lead head and I > never had ANY valve related problems EVER on any Sprite. That's the "voice of reason" I'm going to accept and I'll sleep better tonight knowing it. Thanks Frank! ;-) From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue Jul 21 20:00:17 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:00:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets References: <200907212107.n6LL7tmZ002023@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> <43840a7e0907211528v785e6e24i4e72afac147f637e@mail.gmail.com> <200907211532749.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4A666A4E.6040506@comcast.net> Message-ID: Amen Frank. None other than DMH addressed the situation when asked by responding, "get the cheapest oil you can and change it often". CB From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 21 20:06:43 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:06:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets References: <200907212107.n6LL7tmZ002023@cucujus.ucdavis.edu><43840a7e0907211528v785e6e24i4e72afac147f637e@mail.gmail.com><200907211532749.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><4A666A4E.6040506@comcast.net> <8de85a9c0907211826m10201ca7sddbdf359f5e03b17@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm no expert on this stuff just like the rest of us. All I know is that there are a lot of cam companies that are not too happy about refunding for a bunch of wiped cams and lifters. Does it happen to every single one? Obviously not, but that doesn't mean there isn't a problem. They all seem to be seeing more than enough of it to make them sit-up and take notice -- and they aren't making any money selling any particular oil. They are only losing money replacing cams. Good luck is one thing. Insurance is better. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Foster" To: "Spridget list" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Frank wrote: > If you ask me, all this oil stuff is a load of crap, the same crap with > unleaded gas. > Oh you need a no lead head now, well I never have done a no lead head and I > never had ANY valve related problems EVER on any Sprite. That's the "voice of reason" I'm going to accept and I'll sleep better tonight knowing it. Thanks Frank! ;-) You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jul 21 20:22:12 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:22:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts your engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure lubricant. http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 21 20:33:38 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:33:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets References: Message-ID: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry> I recently bought an AL V-8. It came out of an MGB and had less than 500 miles on it. The mutt crashed it that fast. I looked at the cam and two of the lobes were wiped. One of the lifters looked like a bad case of acne. Less than 500 miles. I don't know what he used for oil, but there sure as hell seemed to be a problem there. It's your motor, do whatever you think is right. Even expensive oil is cheap. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Jeff Foster" ; "Spridget list" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts your engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure lubricant. http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Jul 21 22:04:48 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:04:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-Bellevue In-Reply-To: <1173620516.20090721164615@pacifier.com> References: <1173620516.20090721164615@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <441250190907212104y43cacdd7rbae7651c9dcd77d3@mail.gmail.com> Can't make it, I will be in NJ that weekend. -g On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Spridgets, > > Wonderin' how many are planning to show up for the show and > how many will actually be entering their rides? > > I'll be there as usual, with the RED Sprite with the BLACK grill > and the autox.team.net sticker on the windscreen. I know > several of the N.O.S.H.I.T. listers plan to attend, but not > about others. > > ???? > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > * "One of the tires just blew out," Tom said sparingly. (*2) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Their mythology starts with the false premise that these are irreplaceable geniuses Andrew Cuomo speaking about AIG executives From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 00:11:06 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:11:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-Bellevue Message-ID: Well, I am working towards attending this time.. With my "The red sprite" :-) Rick Bastedo ******************************************************** From: Bill L Subject: [Spridgets] ABFM-Bellevue Hello Spridgets, Wonderin' how many are planning to show up for the show and how many will actually be entering their rides? I'll be there as usual, with the RED Sprite with the BLACK grill and the autox.team.net sticker on the windscreen. I know several of the N.O.S.H.I.T. listers plan to attend, but not about others. ???? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "One of the tires just blew out," Tom said sparingly. (*2) From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 07:46:05 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:46:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry> References: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry> Message-ID: <402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> Billy wrote: > The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts your > engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a > gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure > lubricant. Larry wrote: > I recently bought an AL V-8. It came out of an MGB and had less than 500 > miles on it. The mutt crashed it that fast. I looked at the cam and two of > the lobes were wiped. One of the lifters looked like a bad case of acne. > Less than 500 miles. My understanding is that it is a slow killer of a properly broken in engine. OTOH, in a newly rebuilt engine, the absence of zddp can lead to early failure. The evidence is way beyond anecdotal at this point. The new oil is ok for the new technology engines and the absence of zddp extends the life expectancy of the catalytic, but it is certainly an issue with Spridget engines. David L From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 07:58:02 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:58:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry> <402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Back in 2002, I took the engine that came with my Bugeye (a rebuilt 1275) and put it in the 65 Sprite. I bedded in the cam, and started driving it. Within 2 months, I had a rounded lobe on #4 intake. It wasn't until all this discussion on the ZDDP, and the lack of it, that I realized with had happened. Of course, at the time, I was running Castrol 30 wt. Brad On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:46 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > Billy wrote: > > The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts your > > engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a > > gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure > > lubricant. > > Larry wrote: > > I recently bought an AL V-8. It came out of an MGB and had less than 500 > > miles on it. The mutt crashed it that fast. I looked at the cam and two > of > > the lobes were wiped. One of the lifters looked like a bad case of acne. > > Less than 500 miles. > > My understanding is that it is a slow killer of a properly broken in > engine. OTOH, in a newly rebuilt engine, the absence of zddp can lead > to early failure. The evidence is way beyond anecdotal at this point. > The new oil is ok for the new technology engines and the absence of > zddp extends the life expectancy of the catalytic, but it is certainly > an issue with Spridget engines. > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 22 08:22:36 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:22:36 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry> <402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What I can't figure ... ( okay there's lots of things that I can't figure ) is why some components go and others don't? ie: why 4 and not 1, 2, and 3 also? > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:58:02 -0500 > > Back in 2002, I took the engine that came with my Bugeye (a rebuilt 1275) > and put it in the 65 Sprite. I bedded in the cam, and started driving it. > Within 2 months, I had a rounded lobe on #4 intake. It wasn't until all this > discussion on the ZDDP, and the lack of it, that I realized with had > happened. Of course, at the time, I was running Castrol 30 wt. > > Brad > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:46 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Billy wrote: > > > The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts your > > > engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a > > > gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure > > > lubricant. > > > > Larry wrote: > > > I recently bought an AL V-8. It came out of an MGB and had less than 500 > > > miles on it. The mutt crashed it that fast. I looked at the cam and two > > of > > > the lobes were wiped. One of the lifters looked like a bad case of acne. > > > Less than 500 miles. > > > > My understanding is that it is a slow killer of a properly broken in > > engine. OTOH, in a newly rebuilt engine, the absence of zddp can lead > > to early failure. The evidence is way beyond anecdotal at this point. > > The new oil is ok for the new technology engines and the absence of > > zddp extends the life expectancy of the catalytic, but it is certainly > > an issue with Spridget engines. > > David L From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 08:46:13 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:46:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry> <402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It could be because #4 inherently runs hotter than the other cylinders. That is why it is critical to keep your heater valve open, even in the summer. Especially in the summer. Brad On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM, wrote: > What I can't figure ... ( okay there's lots of things that I can't figure ) > is > why some components go and others don't? ie: why 4 and not 1, 2, and 3 > also? > > > > > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:58:02 -0500 > > > > Back in 2002, I took the engine that came with my Bugeye (a rebuilt 1275) > > and put it in the 65 Sprite. I bedded in the cam, and started driving it. > > Within 2 months, I had a rounded lobe on #4 intake. It wasn't until all > this > > discussion on the ZDDP, and the lack of it, that I realized with had > > happened. Of course, at the time, I was running Castrol 30 wt. > > > > Brad > > > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:46 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Billy wrote: > > > > The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts > your > > > > engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have > a > > > > gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure > > > > lubricant. > > > > > > Larry wrote: > > > > I recently bought an AL V-8. It came out of an MGB and had less than > 500 > > > > miles on it. The mutt crashed it that fast. I looked at the cam and > two > > > of > > > > the lobes were wiped. One of the lifters looked like a bad case of > acne. > > > > Less than 500 miles. > > > > > > My understanding is that it is a slow killer of a properly broken in > > > engine. OTOH, in a newly rebuilt engine, the absence of zddp can lead > > > to early failure. The evidence is way beyond anecdotal at this point. > > > The new oil is ok for the new technology engines and the absence of > > > zddp extends the life expectancy of the catalytic, but it is certainly > > > an issue with Spridget engines. > > > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jul 22 08:45:48 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:45:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> References: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry> <402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: David is correct, here. To my friends, whose names I will omit, but who have opined on this subject, and any of you others choosing to ignore the issue, I say: DUH! For the same price, or very slightly higher, you can use the best/correct oil and not need to worry about it. WHY WOULD YOU RISK EVEN THE POSSIBILITY OF PREMATURELY WEARING OUT YOUR ENGINE, WHEN, FOR ROUGHLY THE SAME MONEY YOU ARE BUYING "JUNK" OIL (any brand conforming with API specification SM) FOR, YOU COULD BE USING THE BEST??? Just because "it" (the wrong additive package for our flat tappet engines) has not yet bitten you in the ass, yet, does not mean you have escaped. Look, I don't care whether or not you use brand X, or brand Y, or brand Z........just use oil that has an API spec SJ rating, as it will have the correct additive package for your engine. In addition to my favorite, Brad Penn, both Castrol and (I think) Valvoline and a few others I can't recall right now offer 20W-50 oils with the correct additive package for flat tappet engines FOR THE SAME PRICE AS THE SM SPEC OIL. Why would you deliberately put the wrong oil in your engine??? End of rant and back to work ;) Good luck to all of you and to your engines (speaking of which, my '72 Midget's engine has been together for 27 years, running Kendall GT1 and Penn Grade 1....no end in sight, but curiosity is getting the best of me and I may tear it down one of these winters & see how it looks). Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets > Billy wrote: >> The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts your >> engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a >> gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure >> lubricant. > > Larry wrote: >> I recently bought an AL V-8. It came out of an MGB and had less than 500 >> miles on it. The mutt crashed it that fast. I looked at the cam and two > of >> the lobes were wiped. One of the lifters looked like a bad case of acne. >> Less than 500 miles. > > My understanding is that it is a slow killer of a properly broken in > engine. OTOH, in a newly rebuilt engine, the absence of zddp can lead > to early failure. The evidence is way beyond anecdotal at this point. > The new oil is ok for the new technology engines and the absence of > zddp extends the life expectancy of the catalytic, but it is certainly > an issue with Spridget engines. > David L From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 08:50:43 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:50:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40907211045s6cb8552ag205e5667f737e7de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <37dc82d40907220750n580be281yc7a79fbdb6f477ef@mail.gmail.com> Got my info from Peter Felice who started the company from his garage and grew it into a large business, a friend of mine. They may have changed their position on this which would make sense. . as I would not break in a motor using it. Kirk On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > and I believe that > > Red Line says that you can break in a motor with their oil. > Redline says you should NOT break in a motor with any synthetic, including > theirs. I spoke with Dave at Redline twice last week. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 08:52:51 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:52:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line In-Reply-To: <306df01ca0a31$24f4d1e0$116a010a@mail2world.com> References: <306df01ca0a31$24f4d1e0$116a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <37dc82d40907220752g1705fd24q51f498c8ac975396@mail.gmail.com> I ran it in a v6. . which then blew a head gasket - and which would have no relationship to the oil! But at the time I was so pissed off about the head gasket that the immediate thing I thought of was the last thing I did to the car, which was the dark strange oil that I added! Not sure why the pulled the stuff. . I imagine a Google on the subject would yield some info. Kirk On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Chris King wrote: > I remember the graphite oils; my father thought they were great - he ran > it in his '78 suburban and never had a problem. > > Why were they pulled? Was it a technical issue, or simply that people > didn't want to buy a black oil? > > -=Chris > > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > <-----Original Message-----> > *From: Kirk Hargreaves [khargreaves2 at gmail.com]* > Sent: 7/21/2009 1:46:19 PM > To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line > > > I think Red Line has gone "South" only as a break in. . but should still be > > top notch with ZDDP for after break in use. . . what I got from the > statement anyway? > > I have seen Harleys break in on their own synthetic. . and I believe that > Red Line says that you can break in a motor with their oil. Harley > recommends break in with their synthetic. > > However, I would stay to the safe side and use Penn Grade 1 Break in - and > then go to Re Line or Amsoil for the long run, if so interested. > > > The old adage still holds. . if you change it regularly and run a non > synthetic, or in our case diesel oil, you will be in just as good shape. > > I have seen many Harley Evo's at the 150k and above mark running fine, only > > because the owner changed the oil on a regular basis. . typically at the > 2500 mile mark, or at least before 3k. And they were using non-synthetic > Harley oil (before the Motor Company came out with their own synthetic > version). > > Also, as most if not all of you are aware. . synthetic comes from the same > base stock as does non synthetic. > > (I still run into people who think that synthetic is made of non natural > components, as developed in a lab not having a regular base stock to begin > with). > > This might be due to the fact that some of the oil companies came out with > a > graphite oil, and other non natural base oils in the latter 1970's. . which > > in turn were pulled from the market. > > The difference is in the breakdown of a consistent ten chain molecular > structure for synthetic as opposed to an uneven breakdown in non synthetic. > > .. and of couse whatever additives are put in. > > The illustration might be that it is harder to light a phone book than a > pile of leaves. The tighter structure deals with heat better, etc. > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > . From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 08:55:00 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:55:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40907211045s6cb8552ag205e5667f737e7de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <37dc82d40907220755u8497a0fmbc89ca4962ddafff@mail.gmail.com> Which "Dave?" The owner or the forklift driver? Kirk On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > and I believe that > > Red Line says that you can break in a motor with their oil. > Redline says you should NOT break in a motor with any synthetic, including > theirs. I spoke with Dave at Redline twice last week. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 08:59:44 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:59:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Redline Message-ID: <37dc82d40907220759u7d4f27d1uc8d7f0b30047ecc1@mail.gmail.com> I am confusing the product with the Harley world. . It says it on the bottle. . final bullet point. . "Not for break in of engines for 3000 miles". Kirk From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 22 10:59:47 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:59:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry> <402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200907220759622.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 07:45 AM 7/22/2009, Bud Osbourne wrote: >David is correct, here. To my friends, whose names I will omit, but >who have opined on this subject, and any of you others choosing to >ignore the issue, I say: DUH! For the same price, or very slightly >higher, you can use the best/correct oil and not need to worry about >it. WHY WOULD YOU RISK EVEN THE POSSIBILITY OF PREMATURELY WEARING >OUT YOUR ENGINE, WHEN, FOR ROUGHLY THE SAME MONEY YOU ARE BUYING >"JUNK" OIL (any brand conforming with API specification SM) FOR, YOU >COULD BE USING THE BEST??? >Just because "it" (the wrong additive package for our flat tappet >engines) has not yet bitten you in the ass, yet, does not mean you >have escaped. >Look, I don't care whether or not you use brand X, or brand Y, or >brand Z........just use oil that has an API spec SJ rating, as it >will have the correct additive package for your engine. ======== ... and this is the problem with recommending a brand over another. F'rinstance the Rotella T recommendation... it now has an SM rating. Oil vendors (or manufacturers if you really think there are such things) submit their product (AND PAY BIG $$) to API for testing in order to gain a certification (S#) that enables them to sell a certain product to a certain marketplace. Buy ANY oil that is alphabetically SJ or less and you'll be OK. The smaller vendors, Brad Pitt for example, may not want or have the bucks to pay the usurious testing fees to API, and so they don't get the rating. Brad Pitt has found a way to market that, for even greater profits. Peter C (just one man's opinion.) From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 22 09:02:20 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:02:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets References: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry><402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: What I am having a problem with is, while breaking a new motor in, you want the lube to be as slippery as possible for the sake of the cam and lifters, yet you don't want it to be too slippery for the the rings to break in properly. Seems like a bit of a dichotomy to me. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets What I can't figure ... ( okay there's lots of things that I can't figure ) is why some components go and others don't? ie: why 4 and not 1, 2, and 3 also? > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:58:02 -0500 > > Back in 2002, I took the engine that came with my Bugeye (a rebuilt 1275) > and put it in the 65 Sprite. I bedded in the cam, and started driving it. > Within 2 months, I had a rounded lobe on #4 intake. It wasn't until all this > discussion on the ZDDP, and the lack of it, that I realized with had > happened. Of course, at the time, I was running Castrol 30 wt. > > Brad > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:46 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Billy wrote: > > > The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts > > > your > > > engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a > > > gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure > > > lubricant. > > > > Larry wrote: > > > I recently bought an AL V-8. It came out of an MGB and had less than 500 > > > miles on it. The mutt crashed it that fast. I looked at the cam and > > > two > > of > > > the lobes were wiped. One of the lifters looked like a bad case of acne. > > > Less than 500 miles. > > > > My understanding is that it is a slow killer of a properly broken in > > engine. OTOH, in a newly rebuilt engine, the absence of zddp can lead > > to early failure. The evidence is way beyond anecdotal at this point. > > The new oil is ok for the new technology engines and the absence of > > zddp extends the life expectancy of the catalytic, but it is certainly > > an issue with Spridget engines. > > David L You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 09:05:06 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:05:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Red Line In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907220752g1705fd24q51f498c8ac975396@mail.gmail.com> References: <306df01ca0a31$24f4d1e0$116a010a@mail2world.com> <37dc82d40907220752g1705fd24q51f498c8ac975396@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907220805v2fe11d6dmd45ffc8b9e1fbe4c@mail.gmail.com> > Not sure why they pulled the stuff. . I imagine a Google on the subject > would yield some info. ISTR that the graphite, etc was in suspension and was eventually found to accumulate in odd corners of the engine with less than desirable consequences. I know that I found interesting pockets of the gunk when I tore down my SBC. David L From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 09:22:16 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:22:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Rotella Message-ID: <37dc82d40907220822r4dcd2e3fy258b08a3fd12bd16@mail.gmail.com> I run the same weight as you - Rotella. Never thought I would see myself putting diesel engine oil in a gas engine until the ZDDP thing came up. Now I just hope I do not grab the green pump handle at the gas station. (I knew this older, guy, in his early 80's who was still driving - he grabbed the diesel pump instead of the gas pump at a station and somehow made it home. He had an old Pontiac with a V8. He also lived close to the gas station). Kirk From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 09:35:08 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:35:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Comment from wife "It's about time." Message-ID: <37dc82d40907220835s56b45dbfta163eef20eaa28b5@mail.gmail.com> I get less than that ("It's about time"). I usually get additional criticism regarding the job. Such as in your case it would be something like the height of the shelves. . how many shelves. . the width of the shelves, etc etc etc! Married for 35 years this coming September. Kirk From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 22 09:42:39 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:42:39 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry> <402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Now, there's a thought! Now why "I looked at the cam and two of the lobes were wiped. One of the lifters looked like a bad case of acne." Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:46:13 -0500 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets From: tequila.brad at gmail.com To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca CC: spridgets at autox.team.net It could be because #4 inherently runs hotter than the other cylinders. That is why it is critical to keep your heater valve open, even in the summer. Especially in the summer. Brad On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM, wrote: What I can't figure ... ( okay there's lots of things that I can't figure ) is why some components go and others don't? ie: why 4 and not 1, 2, and 3 also? > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:58:02 -0500 > > Back in 2002, I took the engine that came with my Bugeye (a rebuilt 1275) > and put it in the 65 Sprite. I bedded in the cam, and started driving it. > Within 2 months, I had a rounded lobe on #4 intake. It wasn't until all this > discussion on the ZDDP, and the lack of it, that I realized with had > happened. Of course, at the time, I was running Castrol 30 wt. > > Brad > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:46 AM, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > > Billy wrote: > > > The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts your > > > engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a > > > gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure > > > lubricant. > > > > Larry wrote: > > > I recently bought an AL V-8. It came out of an MGB and had less than 500 > > > miles on it. The mutt crashed it that fast. I looked at the cam and two > > of > > > the lobes were wiped. One of the lifters looked like a bad case of acne. > > > Less than 500 miles. > > > > My understanding is that it is a slow killer of a properly broken in > > engine. OTOH, in a newly rebuilt engine, the absence of zddp can lead > > to early failure. The evidence is way beyond anecdotal at this point. > > The new oil is ok for the new technology engines and the absence of > > zddp extends the life expectancy of the catalytic, but it is certainly > > an issue with Spridget engines. > > David L You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 10:38:36 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:38:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP Message-ID: <37dc82d40907220938y36aaf9eau79ec107a884b9608@mail.gmail.com> Billy, Not something that I like to hear as I am running Rotella. . what is in the formula that becomes harmful to long term engine life? Thanks for sending the link to Brad Penn. . I am making an order. Kirk From dwgwater at hotmail.com Wed Jul 22 11:53:38 2009 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:53:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Castrol & Valvoline both advertise synthetics that have high zinc for older engines. Castrol is marketing directly at us old car guys. Dave http://www.castrol.com/castrol/genericarticle.do?categoryId=82915470&content Id=7032644 http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/motor-oil/high-performanc e-motor-oil/8 > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:22:12 -0700 > From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com > To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net; tr3.4.me at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets > > The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts your > engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a > gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure > lubricant. > > http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dwgwater at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. Optimized for YOUR phone. Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009 From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jul 22 12:14:59 2009 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:14:59 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube Message-ID: David: A year or more ago I researched all of this oil poo-poo for a couple of articles I was writing. I think the train has left the station for your 260 V-8. Your rings may not have seated in the pistons properly, but you have likely formed the usual cylinder glaze by now. You may be able to get away with a quick pass of a cylinder hone or dingle ball glaze breaker and new rings. But I doubt you can "re-break-in" your motor by switching to a "scratchy" oil. JohnD Message: 8 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:23:59 -0700 From: "David Riker" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Question: I have an engine that never seemed to seat the rings in. It runs smooth as a sewing machine, but has blow by and oil consumption since the day it was assembled, actually, getting worse. Can I go back to break in oil and try again, or does it need torn down and re-honed? I guess I'd have nothing but 5 quarts of oil at stake by giving it a try. David R. PS, its an old Ford 260. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 22 14:14:55 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:14:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets Message-ID: <20090722111598.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I mostly agree. But one other scenario occurs to me..... (not to pour fire on the oil) What if, as you and I suspect, that there are, say fewer refiners than we'd like to think, brand Q's oil is actually the same as a SM rated oil, but they haven't paid the API "dues" to have the privilege of the SM "donut" (their word)? So, while the oil IS as manufactured for an SM rating, it only says SJ. SM is suitable for use in all previously specified SA, through L. The SJ rating does not disclose the formula. It is only a test criterion. SM formulations supercede the SJ, but are missing the ZDDP component. The ONLY ways to guarantee that you are getting the proper amount of ZDDP is to buy older oil, manufactured prior to 2002 at least, OR a brand that actually speaks of their formulation, OR, add your own additive with ZDDP. (I use Castrol GTX (brand loyalty) and STP Blue or Red) If you've dealt with oil salesmen as much as I have over the years, the only word they don't use is snake..... Though there is a brand that speaks of whale oil for automatics.... Peter C === At 09:33 AM 7/22/2009, Bud Osbourne wrote: >Peter, >Correct, but with a minor exception (or is it two). Shell's Rotella >oils were primarily intended for use in diesels. This is why they >were, up until very recently, SJ spec. However, in the US, new >automotive diesels will be sporting catalytic converters very soon >(if they haven't already), hence Rotella's re-formulation to SM spec. From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jul 22 12:18:24 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a501ca0af8$cef57380$6ce05a80$@com> Toss some Bon Ami down the carb while its running... > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Deikis, John G > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:15 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > > David: > > A year or more ago I researched all of this oil poo-poo for a couple of > articles I was writing. > > I think the train has left the station for your 260 V-8. Your rings may > not have seated in the pistons properly, but you > > have likely formed the usual cylinder glaze by now. You may be able to > get away with a quick pass of a cylinder hone or dingle ball glaze > breaker and new rings. But I doubt you can "re-break-in" your motor by > switching to a "scratchy" oil. > > JohnD > > > > > > Message: 8 > > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:23:59 -0700 > > From: "David Riker" > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube > > To: > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > reply-type=original > > > > Question: > > > > I have an engine that never seemed to seat the rings in. It runs > smooth > as > > a sewing machine, but has blow by and oil consumption since the day it > was > > assembled, actually, getting worse. Can I go back to break in oil and > try > > again, or does it need torn down and re-honed? > > I guess I'd have nothing but 5 quarts of oil at stake by giving it a > try. > > > > David R. > > > > PS, its an old Ford 260. From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 22 12:28:52 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay Message-ID: <740640.60157.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> here's a steal if you can win these... http://tinyurl.com/MG-wheels From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 22 12:36:52 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:36:52 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] brit cars for sale In-Reply-To: <5DF2A2957D924BFFA9BE8936D4DE076D@msic6e4eea6c5d> References: <19423F16FEAF47DE82656CB184A7BCB1@msic6e4eea6c5d> <1761184FDC0E4A5BBA700765724732C2@msic6e4eea6c5d> <4034CE5ED7374009B7F7CCFC700BEEB1@msic6e4eea6c5d> <5DF2A2957D924BFFA9BE8936D4DE076D@msic6e4eea6c5d> Message-ID: I got talking to someone and found out that he has these cars for sale. He's located near Vancouver in British Columbia, Canada. His email is: watcyn at shaw.ca Please reply directly to him. He can email pics. 1967 Vandenplas Princess 4 litre R quirky but we like it for sale at 4000.00 1960 Austin A55 Pick up. ai need of Resto 800 bucks will sell 1967 Austin A60 Cambridge Parts car for pickup 1959 Daimler Majestic 3.8 RHD bodywork done brakes done fueltank new engine trans warmed over. Needs paint and some interior work to complete 3000.00 will take it 1967 series 5 Sunbeam Alpine daily driver just put new carpet in great shape 5000 will sell 1979 MGB no rust daily driver 2900 will sell. 1962 Austin BT7 currently on ebay I have no knowledge of these cars and NFI. Robert D. From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jul 22 12:36:54 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay Message-ID: <401828.8748.qm@web83904.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> If anyone is interested in a set of Superlites 5.5x13 4" offset, New in their boxes. LMK. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Edward Perez wrote: From: Edward Perez Subject: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:28 PM here's a steal if you can win these... http://tinyurl.com/MG-wheels You are subscribed as jfishbein at snet.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jmfarley61 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 12:38:30 2009 From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com (John Farley) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:38:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40907220938y36aaf9eau79ec107a884b9608@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40907220938y36aaf9eau79ec107a884b9608@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <69759f980907221138o6d7eaabfg9ed292da518e4d68@mail.gmail.com> After doing the research, I switched to Brad Penn's "Penn Grade 1" SAE 20W-50 Partial Synthetic Racing Oil. Its ZZDP level is recommended for flat tappet engines. John On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Billy, > > > Not something that I like to hear as I am running Rotella. . what is in > the > formula that becomes harmful to long term engine life? > > Thanks for sending the link to Brad Penn. . I am making an order. > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jmfarley61 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 22 12:41:13 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:41:13 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > synthetics that have high zinc Higher, as in pre-2007 800ppm? or pre-1997 1600ppm? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 22 12:44:18 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:44:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay In-Reply-To: <740640.60157.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: How much do they weigh? From mikey at b2systems.com Wed Jul 22 12:51:06 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:51:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1248288666.3776.211.camel@WebBrowser> 2 things, 1: this is the very first time I have heard of ZDDP being a engine killer, I have never heard anything bad about it. I have heard its useless and its useful but never bad. Care to elaborate on why you think this ? 2: That castrol is syntec, they no longer make a old car guy oil, just the syntec stuff. My older cars already leak enough oil, I would hate to see how much oil would pour out if I put in synthetic, my new cars run synthetic though. mike On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 12:53 -0500, David Groundwater wrote: > Castrol & Valvoline both advertise synthetics that have high zinc for older > engines. Castrol is marketing directly at us old car guys. > > Dave > > > http://www.castrol.com/castrol/genericarticle.do?categoryId=82915470&content > Id=7032644 > > > > http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/motor-oil/high-performanc > e-motor-oil/8 > > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:22:12 -0700 > > From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com > > To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net; tr3.4.me at gmail.com; spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets > > > > The ZDDP thing is for real, but it's a slow engine killer. It cuts your > > engine life by maybe half. It's also an important factor if you have a > > gearbox that takes motor oil. Gears really need an extreme pressure > > lubricant. From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 22 12:53:51 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 Message-ID: <63137.78316.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm looking for a reasonable air filter assembly for my 1275 with dual SU HS2 carbs.... seem to be hard to find, or over the top on cost. I'd really like to find one similar to the one below, but will settle for other options. I need the high flow filter set-up. http://tinyurl.com/KN-airfilter From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 12:55:00 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:55:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <00a501ca0af8$cef57380$6ce05a80$@com> References: <00a501ca0af8$cef57380$6ce05a80$@com> Message-ID: <402188520907221155t56c1baa1ye1ac6fa55e87496d@mail.gmail.com> > Toss some Bon Ami down the carb while its running... I thought it was supposed to be used sand from the blaster... or was it kitty litter? David L From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 22 12:59:50 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:59:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube References: <00a501ca0af8$cef57380$6ce05a80$@com> <402188520907221155t56c1baa1ye1ac6fa55e87496d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3D362EB6A5CC4D3C9E7B267A2891211A@psych.washington.edu> That's for polishing the ports with out removing the head. Rich ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube >> Toss some Bon Ami down the carb while its running... > > I thought it was supposed to be used sand from the blaster... or was > it kitty litter? > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jul 22 13:20:11 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:20:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lady Luck smiled on me this morning... Message-ID: <4A6703FB.14784.11B5F44@kk7ss.verizon.net> I was walking to Starbucks to get my morning coffee and saw this older guy (Jeez.... he's younger than me!) getting ready for a garage sale - they are always on Friday's and Saturday's around here... I don't normally stop for them because usually they have old clothes, used books, BW TV's, etc.... But I noticed he had two older Valiants, in nice condition, in the garage so I stopped to have a look... There, on a table top was a Sunpro CVP7676 Dwell/Tach meter still in its original box.. I said "Does this work" He said "I don't know, I've never opened it." I said "How much?" He said "$10" I said "Done!" I now own a hand held digital dwell/tach meter. I put a 9V battery in it and it powered on... I'll see if it works later on tonight when the temp is supposed to drop below below 90*F.. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 22 13:26:06 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:26:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets References: <20090722111598.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <0989ED3C10944E1EA62B8610F41093AA@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" OR, add your own additive with ZDDP. (I use Castrol GTX (brand loyalty) and STP Blue or Red) =========================== For anybody else who wants to go that route, a call to STP will find that the red bottle has more ZDDP than the blue bottle and the new white bottle called "Oil Stabilizer" has the most. They will not, however, tell you what the amounts are so that you can compute how much of their product to mix with your new oil to get where you want to be in ppm. They say they don't have that information. (Sure. Of course they don't know what they are making.) It seems to me that if they had a boatload of ZDDP in there, they would be singing it from the rooftops while we beat a path to their door. Or maybe their marketing dept. is led by that chimp that answered the phone. LAD From fredpixley at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 22 13:34:52 2009 From: fredpixley at sympatico.ca (Frederick Pixley) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:34:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Compatibility Message-ID: I'm changing a smoothcase for a ribcase in a Mark 2 Sprite (previously a 948) which has a 1275 and noticed that it still has the Mark 2 slave cylinder and 2 3/4 inch slave pushrod. I've also installed a new 1275 Clutch cover, disc plate, and release bearing. Is there any problem staying with the older slave cylinder and if so should I also stay with the shorter pushrod? I expect the 948 slave is smaller diameter which provides more travel with more effort than a 1275 slave. I have a 3 inch push rod for 1275's if required. I noticed three different part numbers for release bearings for 948, 1098, and 1275. I've installed the 1275 bearing but don't want to screw anything up and am hoping the older slave will function properly. Fred Pixley Napanee, Ontario From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jul 22 13:40:09 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:40:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <0989ED3C10944E1EA62B8610F41093AA@Larry> References: <20090722111598.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com>, <0989ED3C10944E1EA62B8610F41093AA@Larry> Message-ID: <4A6708A9.23303.12DA7F7@kk7ss.verizon.net> Larry, Please.. a little more respect for Chimps.... they are far to intelligent to be answering a Help desk phone On 22 Jul 2009 at 14:26, Larry Daniels wrote: >> Or maybe >> their marketing dept. is led by that chimp that answered the phone. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 22 13:56:32 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:56:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <69759f980907221138o6d7eaabfg9ed292da518e4d68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <201832.764.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm not familiar with the brand or the name. How would we go about acquiring some? David Booker '71 Midget I'm ready to put oil in and hopefully fire up soon. Long Island --- On Wed, 7/22/09, John Farley wrote: From: John Farley Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP To: "Kirk Hargreaves" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 1:38 PM After doing the research, I switched to Brad Penn's "Penn Grade 1" SAE 20W-50 Partial Synthetic Racing Oil. Its ZZDP level is recommended for flat tappet engines. John On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Billy, > > > Not something that I like to hear as I am running Rotella. . what is in > the > formula that becomes harmful to long term engine life? > > Thanks for sending the link to Brad Penn. . I am making an order. > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jmfarley61 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 22 14:09:43 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 In-Reply-To: <63137.78316.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <63137.78316.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <157206.10361.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> APT has the 6" assemblies for ~$65 EACH!..... I thought that was a little spendy. Just not sure what's reasonable for these. I spent less than $40 for my Dodge Hemi, and $26 for my Weber DGV K&N assembly.... ________________________________ From: Edward Perez To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:53:51 AM Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 I'm looking for a reasonable air filter assembly for my 1275 with dual SU HS2 carbs.... seem to be hard to find, or over the top on cost. I'd really like to find one similar to the one below, but will settle for other options. I need the high flow filter set-up. http://tinyurl.com/KN-airfilter You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jul 22 14:25:06 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:25:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 Message-ID: <178021.56474.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Than of course, you will have to wonder whether APT will remember to fill the order and if they send you what you think you ordered. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Edward Perez wrote: From: Edward Perez Subject: Re: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 To: "Edward Perez" , Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 4:09 PM APT has the 6" assemblies for ~$65 EACH!..... I thought that was a little spendy. Just not sure what's reasonable for these. I spent less than $40 for my Dodge Hemi, and $26 for my Weber DGV K&N assembly.... From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jul 22 14:31:46 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:31:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 In-Reply-To: <178021.56474.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <178021.56474.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A6714C2.4138.15CE8B0@kk7ss.verizon.net> In defence of Dave at APT... I ordered two K&N Filters from Dave. They were promptly delivered. Then I discovered that I had screwed up and that they were too big to fit under the hood. I phoned Dave, explained the situation. He replaced them with the next size down and they were alsso promptly delivered... NFI, yaddda, yadda.... Dave G,. On 22 Jul 2009 at 13:25, Jay Fishbein wrote: >> Than of course, you will have to wonder whether APT will remember to >> fill the order and if they send you what you think you ordered. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jul 22 14:49:37 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 Message-ID: <998607.48994.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> You lucked-out by getting him on the phone right away. In my experience, he is not one to return calls. I bought from them twice. First order went smoothly. Second order, they forgot about, Third order, (repeat of the second), was a bad experience all around. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Dave G. wrote: From: Dave G. Subject: Re: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 To: "Jay Fishbein" , Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 4:31 PM In defence of Dave at APT... I ordered two K&N Filters from Dave. They were promptly delivered. Then I discovered that I had screwed up and that they were too big to fit under the hood. I phoned Dave, explained the situation. He replaced them with the next size down and they were alsso promptly delivered... From cmlove at knology.net Wed Jul 22 15:03:05 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:03:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 In-Reply-To: <4A6714C2.4138.15CE8B0@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <178021.56474.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4A6714C2.4138.15CE8B0@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <004f01ca0b0f$d4826210$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> I have also had good results dealing with APT. I have had several items that I messed up the order and they graciously fixed it. They also made a mistake and graciously fixed it. I'm a satisfied customer. NFI, yaddda, yadda.... Monty Love The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:32 PM To: Jay Fishbein; Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 In defence of Dave at APT... I ordered two K&N Filters from Dave. They were promptly delivered. Then I discovered that I had screwed up and that they were too big to fit under the hood. I phoned Dave, explained the situation. He replaced them with the next size down and they were alsso promptly delivered... NFI, yaddda, yadda.... Dave G,. On 22 Jul 2009 at 13:25, Jay Fishbein wrote: >> Than of course, you will have to wonder whether APT will remember to >> fill the order and if they send you what you think you ordered. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! You are subscribed as cmlove at knology.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jmfarley61 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 15:06:51 2009 From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com (John Farley) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:06:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <201832.764.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <69759f980907221138o6d7eaabfg9ed292da518e4d68@mail.gmail.com> <201832.764.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <69759f980907221406i42ce2442tf4de1f4d5ff3b092@mail.gmail.com> David, Brad Penn oil is a product of: American Refining Group, Inc 77 North Kendall Ave. Bradford, PA 16701 (814) 368-1200 I called them and they pointed me to a local distributor. Their web site: www.bradpennracing.com In addition to the 20W-50 for everyday use, they also have a 30W Break-in oil listed. Have not tried it. John On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:56 PM, David Booker wrote: > I'm not familiar with the brand or the name. How would we go about > acquiring some? > David Booker > '71 Midget I'm ready to put oil in and hopefully fire up soon. > Long Island > > --- On *Wed, 7/22/09, John Farley * wrote: > > > From: John Farley > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP > To: "Kirk Hargreaves" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 1:38 PM > > After doing the research, I switched to Brad Penn's "Penn Grade 1" SAE > 20W-50 Partial Synthetic Racing Oil. Its ZZDP level is recommended for > flat > tappet engines. > > John > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Kirk Hargreaves > >wrote: > > > Billy, > > > > > > Not something that I like to hear as I am running Rotella. . what is in > > the > > formula that becomes harmful to long term engine life? > > > > Thanks for sending the link to Brad Penn. . I am making an order. > > > > Kirk > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as jmfarley61 at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 22 17:19:48 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:19:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <69759f980907221406i42ce2442tf4de1f4d5ff3b092@mail.gmail.co m> References: <69759f980907221138o6d7eaabfg9ed292da518e4d68@mail.gmail.com> <201832.764.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <69759f980907221406i42ce2442tf4de1f4d5ff3b092@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200907221419458.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> OK, I went to the website. I don't see the API "donut". Is it on the back of the bottle? Is is API certified? If it isn't, I think that's pretty cool. I HATE certification "labs". Legalized extortion, if you ask me. A legal protection scheme. Somebody look at a bottle..... please Peter == At 02:06 PM 7/22/2009, John Farley wrote: >David, > >Brad Penn oil is a product of: >American Refining Group, Inc >77 North Kendall Ave. >Bradford, PA 16701 >(814) 368-1200 > >I called them and they pointed me to a local distributor. > >Their web site: www.bradpennracing.com > >In addition to the 20W-50 for everyday use, they also have a 30W Break-in >oil listed. Have not tried it. > >John From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 22 15:24:42 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:24:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP References: <69759f980907221138o6d7eaabfg9ed292da518e4d68@mail.gmail.com><201832.764.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com><69759f980907221406i42ce2442tf4de1f4d5ff3b092@mail.gmail.com> <200907221419458.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <6BA48A604A694DC48F911CCED5D79054@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: "John Farley" ; "David Booker" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP OK, I went to the website. I don't see the API "donut". Is it on the back of the bottle? Is is API certified? If it isn't, I think that's pretty cool. I HATE certification "labs". Legalized extortion, if you ask me. A legal protection scheme. Somebody look at a bottle..... please Peter == Peter, SJ or CF, so they are going waaay back. I bought this bottle a year and a half ago. Larry From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 22 15:28:56 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:28:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <1248288666.3776.211.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: > 1: this is the very first time I have heard of ZDDP being a engine > killer, I have never heard anything bad about it. I have heard its > useless and its useful but never bad. Care to elaborate on why you > think this ? Who said it was bad? You need it in older cars and transmissions. It's not a maybe...old cars need it. Modern oils don't have it. This whole thread is getting peculiar. From jmfarley61 at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 15:34:52 2009 From: jmfarley61 at gmail.com (John Farley) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:34:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <200907221419458.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <69759f980907221138o6d7eaabfg9ed292da518e4d68@mail.gmail.com> <201832.764.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <69759f980907221406i42ce2442tf4de1f4d5ff3b092@mail.gmail.com> <200907221419458.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <69759f980907221434u592e5c09xed09bbb14a22766b@mail.gmail.com> I didn't see the API "donut" on the bottle, but it says on the back that it is "Suitable for use in API service category SJ applications." John On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > OK, I went to the website. I don't see the API "donut". Is it on the back > of the bottle? Is is API certified? > > If it isn't, I think that's pretty cool. I HATE certification "labs". > Legalized extortion, if you ask me. A legal protection scheme. > > Somebody look at a bottle..... please > > Peter > == > > At 02:06 PM 7/22/2009, John Farley wrote: > >> David, >> >> Brad Penn oil is a product of: >> American Refining Group, Inc >> 77 North Kendall Ave. >> Bradford, PA 16701 >> (814) 368-1200 >> >> I called them and they pointed me to a local distributor. >> >> Their web site: www.bradpennracing.com >> >> In addition to the 20W-50 for everyday use, they also have a 30W Break-in >> oil listed. Have not tried it. >> >> John From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 22 15:40:51 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:40:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <200907221419458.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: > OK, I went to the website. I don't see the API "donut". Is it on the > back of the bottle? Is is API certified? They don't bother. Their oil is the equivalent of SJ. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 22 15:42:44 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:42:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <6BA48A604A694DC48F911CCED5D79054@Larry> Message-ID: > Peter, SJ or CF, so they are going waaay back. I bought this bottle a year > and a half ago. Not far enough. SJ is from 1997 when they lowered ZDDP from 1600ppm to 800ppm. SF would be better. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 22 15:59:23 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:59:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP References: Message-ID: <73BA88CE3D8646B88043E8BC742F16DF@Larry> Billy, where did you get your information from? That doesn't jibe with what I have heard. I thought the drop to 800 was with the SM classification. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Peter Caldwell" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP > Peter, SJ or CF, so they are going waaay back. I bought this bottle a > year > and a half ago. Not far enough. SJ is from 1997 when they lowered ZDDP from 1600ppm to 800ppm. SF would be better. From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 22 18:20:09 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:20:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <69759f980907221434u592e5c09xed09bbb14a22766b@mail.gmail.co m> References: <69759f980907221138o6d7eaabfg9ed292da518e4d68@mail.gmail.com> <201832.764.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <69759f980907221406i42ce2442tf4de1f4d5ff3b092@mail.gmail.com> <200907221419458.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <69759f980907221434u592e5c09xed09bbb14a22766b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090722152083.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> OK, I went to http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayInfo.asp?Info=BrandNames Look for "American Refining Group" and the Brad-Penn line. Some are SM, but the 20-50 is SJ. This is an interesting place as well. http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoil/pubs/index.cfm Read some of the PDF bulletins. I haven't found the word ZINC or ZDDP, yet. But it's early. Peter C. ================== At 02:34 PM 7/22/2009, John Farley wrote: >I didn't see the API "donut" on the bottle, but it says on the back >that it is "Suitable for use in API service category SJ applications." > >John > >On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Peter Caldwell ><peter at nosimport.com> wrote: >OK, I went to the website. I don't see the API "donut". Is it on the >back of the bottle? Is is API certified? > >If it isn't, I think that's pretty cool. I HATE certification >"labs". Legalized extortion, if you ask me. A legal protection scheme. > >Somebody look at a bottle..... please > > Peter >== > >At 02:06 PM 7/22/2009, John Farley wrote: >David, > >Brad Penn oil is a product of: >American Refining Group, Inc >77 North Kendall Ave. >Bradford, PA 16701 >(814) 368-1200 > >I called them and they pointed me to a local distributor. > >Their web site: www.bradpennracing.com > >In addition to the 20W-50 for everyday use, they also have a 30W Break-in >oil listed. Have not tried it. > >John > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: >07/22/09 05:59:00 From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 22 18:25:01 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:25:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Not oil, not Spridgets Message-ID: <200907221525333.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> A 2002 Jagwire X-type front hub nut torque is 302 lb/ft holy crap! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 22 16:28:38 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:28:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <1248288666.3776.211.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: Peculiar to what? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: July 22, 2009 5:29 PM To: mike rambour; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets > 1: this is the very first time I have heard of ZDDP being a engine > killer, I have never heard anything bad about it. I have heard its > useless and its useful but never bad. Care to elaborate on why you > think this ? Who said it was bad? You need it in older cars and transmissions. It's not a maybe...old cars need it. Modern oils don't have it. This whole thread is getting peculiar. You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 22 16:34:06 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:34:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not oil, not Spridgets References: <200907221525333.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <45380E2B9AA948AB81217A946E1BC8DF@Larry> Peter, start thinking about that microbrewery that you took me to and imagine you and Jane stopping there on the way home tonight. You need a break. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:25 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Not oil, not Spridgets A 2002 Jagwire X-type front hub nut torque is 302 lb/ft holy crap! You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 16:46:10 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:46:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <1248288666.3776.211.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907221546v7ee7b36j8deade5fc548f97f@mail.gmail.com> Ah! A pint of Old Peculiar. I'm all in for that!! Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > Peculiar to what? > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom > Sent: July 22, 2009 5:29 PM > To: mike rambour; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets > > > 1: this is the very first time I have heard of ZDDP being a engine > > killer, I have never heard anything bad about it. I have heard its > > useless and its useful but never bad. Care to elaborate on why you > > think this ? > Who said it was bad? You need it in older cars and transmissions. > It's not a maybe...old cars need it. Modern oils don't have it. > This whole thread is getting peculiar. > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jul 22 17:26:43 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:26:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <20090722152083.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <69759f980907221138o6d7eaabfg9ed292da518e4d68@mail.gmail.com><201832.764.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com><69759f980907221406i42ce2442tf4de1f4d5ff3b092@mail.gmail.com><200907221419458.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><69759f980907221434u592e5c09xed09bbb14a22766b@mail.gmail.com> <20090722152083.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Yeah, Brad Penn also produces oil to API SM spec, for modern cars. It would be labeled Brad Penn, rather than Penn Grade 1, as I recall. I've got a case of the Brad Penn SM spec stuff on order for my "new" (10 & 11 yr old) Volkswagens, along with a case of non-detergent for my old Gravelys, and some Penn Grade 1 for my "toy" cars. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: "John Farley" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP > OK, I went to http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayInfo.asp?Info=BrandNames Look > for "American Refining Group" and the Brad-Penn line. Some are SM, but the > 20-50 is SJ. > > This is an interesting place as well. > http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoil/pubs/index.cfm > > Read some of the PDF bulletins. I haven't found the word ZINC or ZDDP, > yet. But it's early. > > Peter C. From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jul 22 17:32:26 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:32:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets now beer References: <1248288666.3776.211.camel@WebBrowser> <43840a7e0907221546v7ee7b36j8deade5fc548f97f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Glad to see someone else knows of Old Peculiar. Through the 90's I work a couple nights a week at a pub here in Seattle called the Old Peculiar. It was rare when someone knew where the name came from. Mostly the crowd was made up of old Irish and Portuguese fishermen, throw in some locals, college students, and scooter hooligans and you had a typical night. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets > Ah! A pint of Old Peculiar. I'm all in for that!! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Robert Duquette < > robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> Peculiar to what? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom >> Sent: July 22, 2009 5:29 PM >> To: mike rambour; spridgets at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets >> >> > 1: this is the very first time I have heard of ZDDP being a engine >> > killer, I have never heard anything bad about it. I have heard its >> > useless and its useful but never bad. Care to elaborate on why you >> > think this ? >> Who said it was bad? You need it in older cars and transmissions. >> It's not a maybe...old cars need it. Modern oils don't have it. >> This whole thread is getting peculiar. >> You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am > not > sure about the former. - Albert Einstein > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 22 17:37:46 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:37:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A67A2CA.1030406@sbcglobal.net> The most reasonable air filters for the HS2 that I've found are the filters for the Spitfire MK1 or MK3, Vicky Brit part #3-177. $9.95 each. Can mount the directly to the carb without housing. Works fine for me. Message: 11 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:53:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Edward Perez Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <63137.78316.qm at web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'm looking for a reasonable air filter assembly for my 1275 with dual SU HS2 carbs.... seem to be hard to find, or over the top on cost. I'd really like to find one similar to the one below, but will settle for other options. I need the high flow filter set-up. http://tinyurl.com/KN-airfilter From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jul 22 17:39:36 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:39:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <20090722111598.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <20090722111598.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Personally, I would never try to ad ZDDP to the crankcase. Too easy to get the proportions wrong (too much ZDDP is not a good thing, either), and you are introducing a large "blob" of the stuff into one place, and depending on the engine's oil circulation system to blend it evenly throughout the entire system. I somehow don't think that is going to happen, and can envision pockets of ZDDP lying here and there in random locations throughout the system. Sure, you could pour the oil into a big container, then ad the ZDDP & stir it up before putting the oil into he engine.....but why go to all the bother when some of the more reputable refiners have already done it for you? As far as knowing that you are getting SJ spec, as opposed to SM..........well, there is where the brand name may be relevant. If Brad Penn, Valvoline, Castrol or Shell says it's SJ spec, well, I think I would feel quite safe with it. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets >I mostly agree. But one other scenario occurs to me..... (not to pour fire >on the oil) > > What if, as you and I suspect, that there are, say fewer refiners than > we'd like to think, brand Q's oil is actually the same as a SM rated oil, > but they haven't paid the API "dues" to have the privilege of the SM > "donut" (their word)? So, while the oil IS as manufactured for an SM > rating, it only says SJ. SM is suitable for use in all previously > specified SA, through L. The SJ rating does not disclose the formula. It > is only a test criterion. SM formulations supercede the SJ, but are > missing the ZDDP component. > > The ONLY ways to guarantee that you are getting the proper amount of ZDDP > is to buy older oil, manufactured prior to 2002 at least, OR a brand that > actually speaks of their formulation, OR, add your own additive with ZDDP. > (I use Castrol GTX (brand loyalty) and STP Blue or Red) > > If you've dealt with oil salesmen as much as I have over the years, the > only word they don't use is snake..... > > Though there is a brand that speaks of whale oil for automatics.... > > Peter C From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jul 22 17:47:57 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:47:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: <0E3E366504EB48C1918AA91D392CD276@Larry><402188520907220646w395f3bc0ub4ea735acfb861d1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80382FBA1FAD4E049097005AA645819A@OwnerPC> Here's another thought: A friend of mine was having trouble with premature cam and lifer wear in his hotted-up TR4 engine. He finally had some lifters tested for hardness (Rockwell scale) and found that not all of the lifters were as hard as they were supposed to be......and not all the lifters in a new set were hardened to the same degree. He finally sourced some original equipment lifters from his parts stash, and sent them out to some outfit in CA to be tested, then reground, Isky also did a special cam for him, adding some angle to more positively rotate the lifters. Time will tell.....and (as soon as I eat.....just got in from work.....I'm gonna go out and get that Isky letter out of my Midget's boot and read it). Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets > Now, there's a thought! > > > > Now why "I looked at the cam and two of the lobes were wiped. One of the > lifters looked like a bad case of acne." From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 17:50:03 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:50:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: References: <69759f980907221138o6d7eaabfg9ed292da518e4d68@mail.gmail.com> <201832.764.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <69759f980907221406i42ce2442tf4de1f4d5ff3b092@mail.gmail.com> <200907221419458.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <69759f980907221434u592e5c09xed09bbb14a22766b@mail.gmail.com> <20090722152083.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907221650n28ba6810ib2fa3871141aa66b@mail.gmail.com> I just had a very pleasant phone call from the marketing manager at Brad Penn. He gave me a major distributor contact in Wichita, KS (nearest one to me) where I can get their products. After discussing it with him, the Shell Rotella-T will go in my modern Chebby Pickup. Nice guy. Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Bud Osbourne wrote: > Yeah, Brad Penn also produces oil to API SM spec, for modern cars. It > would be labeled Brad Penn, rather than Penn Grade 1, as I recall. I've got > a case of the Brad Penn SM spec stuff on order for my "new" (10 & 11 yr old) > Volkswagens, along with a case of non-detergent for my old Gravelys, and > some Penn Grade 1 for my "toy" cars. > Bud Osbourne > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Caldwell" > To: "John Farley" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP > > > OK, I went to http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayInfo.asp?Info=BrandNames >> Look for "American Refining Group" and the Brad-Penn line. Some are SM, but >> the 20-50 is SJ. >> >> This is an interesting place as well. >> http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoil/pubs/index.cfm >> >> Read some of the PDF bulletins. I haven't found the word ZINC or ZDDP, >> yet. But it's early. >> >> Peter C. >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jul 22 18:12:03 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:12:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fire hazzard Message-ID: <95A7B8DF7212483BB12366161FE2AA67@Home> If the knees of your pants are blown out with long fringes around the holes, they will ignite rather easily in welding sparks. And if your head is buried in a helmet and you are concentrating on your bead, the fire can get pretty well established before you figure it out, maybe 6" in diameter. Burned hair smells really bad. If you tell your wife about it, the trouble will be even worse than the fire. Don't try it unless you are forced to explain the burned hair smell. At close of day today, I briefly offered up a half floor pan for fit. Pretty satisfying, even with the fire. Hot Legs Rowe From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 22 18:40:00 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:40:00 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Compatibility In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A67B160.4080602@comcast.net> Frederick Pixley wrote: > I'm changing a smoothcase for a ribcase in a Mark 2 Sprite (previously a 948) > which has a 1275 and noticed that it still has the Mark 2 slave cylinder and 2 > 3/4 inch slave pushrod. I've also installed a new 1275 Clutch cover, disc > plate, and release bearing. > > The slave will bolt up and work fine, just be sure you use the 3 pieces of the 1275 clutch, the 1275 push rod. As you said, a bit more effort but hardly noticeable. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 22 18:46:16 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:46:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Not oil, not Spridgets In-Reply-To: <200907221525333.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: The factory instructions for removing the front pulley bolt on my CRX involve a 60 inch breaker bar and a 3/4" drive impact socket. I think it requires around 500 - 600ft.lbs. > A 2002 Jagwire X-type front hub nut torque is 302 lb/ft From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 22 18:47:52 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:47:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Slow Engine Killer ZDDP In-Reply-To: <20090722152083.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: > Thank you for your inquiry about Penn Grade 1 High performance Oil. First we > do not license (API) these High performance Oils. We have elevated levels of > Zinc that help protect the Cams of flat tappet and roller operations. Our > 10W-40 has the performance qualities of an API SJ product but again we do not > license these products. I am also assuming that you have a manual > transmission? > > Sincerely, > Nicholas J. Dixon > BRAD PENN Lubricants From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 22 18:54:22 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:54:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html > Beware of ZDDP boosters and concentrates being sold under various names. These > products should truly only be used at time of break-in or not at all if a > fully-formulated break-in oil is used. I haven't tested every one of these > products, but one thing is very obvious to me. Every product previously sold > to boost ZDDP, be it STP or EOS, always had roughly an equal amount of > detergents to offset the affect of ZDDP in reducing the TBN of motor oil. Most > of these ZDDP concentrates omit detergents altogether or use over-based Ca > detergents known to reduce the efficiency of the anti-wear properties of the > oil! Just like you need more Zn and P in an oil that has more detergents, you > also have to have additional detergency because of the breakdown of ZDDP in > peroxides and its interaction with combustion byproducts to form sulfuric > acid. Knowing the right balance is something best left to the oil > manufacturers and their chemical engineers. More acid, will increase the oils > TAN, and will lead to corrosive wear of bearings. For once, I will have to say > that more is not better, especially in this case. EOS and STP are decades old, > and proven products that work synergistically with your existing motor oil and > were never designed to boost the Zn and P more than 100-200ppm - unlike some > recommendations to run double the ZDDP, in excess of 2000 ppm, which can lead > to increased wear! It is not only the level of Zn and P that is important, but > also starting with an oil that meets the ACEA A3/B3 standard would assure a > starting TBN of 10 or higher and with similarly higher HTHS viscosities will > also give you greater protection too. If you do choose to use these products, > you must do used oil analysis to determine drain intervals and monitor overall > TBN retention and ensure that the TAN increase does not lead to increased > bearing wear! Too much ZDDP can also foul spark plugs and oxygen sensors, not > to mention plug EGR valves and the catalytic converter. Additionally, lack of > testing of these ZDDP boosters compared to fully formulated oils intended for > racing or for older engines or even against SM-rated oils side by side do not > instill confidence in their performance, or at least at the time this was > written. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Jul 22 19:09:05 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? Message-ID: <1254146871.4655151248311345848.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I am looking to take out (hopefully) some of the small rust specs on the bumpers of my 74 and shine up the windscreen somehow.B I am not looking for trailer queen status but more to get some extra oohh's and ahh's when we go out. ryan '74 From jfishbein at snet.net Wed Jul 22 19:23:15 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:23:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? Message-ID: <276134.38151.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Nev-R-Dul - Source - Hardware store Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Wed, 7/22/09, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 9:09 PM I am looking to take out (hopefully) some of the small rust specs on the bumpers of my 74 and shine up the windscreen somehow.B I am not looking for trailer queen status but more to get some extra oohh's and ahh's when we go out. ryan '74 You are subscribed as jfishbein at snet.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Jul 22 19:28:40 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:28:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: <1254146871.4655151248311345848.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1254146871.4655151248311345848.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A67BCC8.9080208@frontiernet.net> I have had good luck with Brasso. Kate ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > I am looking to take out (hopefully) some of the small rust specs on the > bumpers of my 74 and shine up the windscreen somehow.B I am not looking for > trailer queen status but more to get some extra oohh's and ahh's when we go > out. > > ryan > > '74 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Jul 22 19:58:09 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Car Video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1815333189.4674311248314289589.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> 1.3liter diesel engine...200# heavier than a midget 140mph avg at 113mpg over 24 hours ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "Charles Nuyianes" To: "KARL WAGNER" , "Mike J" , "Ryan Kubanoff" , "Scott Figiel" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:46:43 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Car Video Car video, high mpg, high speedB B B http://www.flixxy.com/fuel-economy-performance-car.htm Charlie From herby at herbytoys.com Wed Jul 22 20:00:28 2009 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:00:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2E9FD26371B743309E71CEAECED59777@HERBYZ> According to Mini Mania the 'GN' Minilites are "less than 13 lbs". Per Pack Racing (now VTO Performance) the Superlite is 11.7 lbs. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:44 AM To: Edward Perez; Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay How much do they weigh? _______________________________________________ From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jul 22 20:01:08 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:01:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yep. I rest my case (for not adding ZDDP to your oil, yourself). Charles really has a very informative website, doesn't he? Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; "Spridgets" ; "Peter Caldwell" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets > http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html >> Beware of ZDDP boosters and concentrates being sold under various names. >> These >> products should truly only be used at time of break-in or not at all if a >> fully-formulated break-in oil is used. I haven't tested every one of >> these >> products, but one thing is very obvious to me. Every product previously >> sold >> to boost ZDDP, be it STP or EOS, always had roughly an equal amount of >> detergents to offset the affect of ZDDP in reducing the TBN of motor oil. >> Most >> of these ZDDP concentrates omit detergents altogether or use over-based >> Ca >> detergents known to reduce the efficiency of the anti-wear properties of >> the >> oil! Just like you need more Zn and P in an oil that has more detergents, >> you >> also have to have additional detergency because of the breakdown of ZDDP >> in >> peroxides and its interaction with combustion byproducts to form sulfuric >> acid. Knowing the right balance is something best left to the oil >> manufacturers and their chemical engineers. More acid, will increase the >> oils >> TAN, and will lead to corrosive wear of bearings. For once, I will have >> to say >> that more is not better, especially in this case. EOS and STP are decades >> old, >> and proven products that work synergistically with your existing motor >> oil and >> were never designed to boost the Zn and P more than 100-200ppm - unlike >> some >> recommendations to run double the ZDDP, in excess of 2000 ppm, which can >> lead >> to increased wear! It is not only the level of Zn and P that is >> important, but >> also starting with an oil that meets the ACEA A3/B3 standard would assure >> a >> starting TBN of 10 or higher and with similarly higher HTHS viscosities >> will >> also give you greater protection too. If you do choose to use these >> products, >> you must do used oil analysis to determine drain intervals and monitor >> overall >> TBN retention and ensure that the TAN increase does not lead to increased >> bearing wear! Too much ZDDP can also foul spark plugs and oxygen sensors, >> not >> to mention plug EGR valves and the catalytic converter. Additionally, >> lack of >> testing of these ZDDP boosters compared to fully formulated oils intended >> for >> racing or for older engines or even against SM-rated oils side by side do >> not >> instill confidence in their performance, or at least at the time this was >> written. From nigel.hales at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 20:07:17 2009 From: nigel.hales at gmail.com (Nigel Hales) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:07:17 +1000 Subject: [Spridgets] Oils ain't Oils - well some are Message-ID: Oils ain't Oils - well some are, especially these couple from Shell, and they contain a hefty amount of good old ZDDP, specifically formulated for the equipment they are used in. Shell 'Nissan Oil 20W-50' is formulated for Nissan Dealers for all warranty work on Nissan passenger vehicles (Globally) and has significant concentration of ZDDP, 2 - 2.5 times the ratio of modern spec mineral motor oils. Shell Harvella T - this is a 15W-40 Universal Tractor Oil with very high concentration of ZDDP, double the concentration of Nissan Oil, and makes a good 'break-in' for standard passenger engine re-builds, and for use in a gearbox that uses engine oil. I use the Harvella T for the gearbox oils in my Landrover Series III, Discovery and Range Rover as well as the MKIII Midget, and for engine oil in the Kawasaki KLF300 quad. I use the Nissan Oil in all my V8's, GM, Ford and Land Rover and of course the Midget. Not sure outside Australia and the UK, on the availability of these products directly from Shell. But you could check with your Nissan dealer. Happy to supply the oil spec sheets, or you can view at the Shell web site. cheerz....n From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 22 20:18:26 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:18:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oils ain't Oils - well some are References: Message-ID: Write back when you have some numbers to back this up. No offense, but there is way too much rhetoric and way too little facts floating around. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Hales" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Oils ain't Oils - well some are Oils ain't Oils - well some are, especially these couple from Shell, and they contain a hefty amount of good old ZDDP, specifically formulated for the equipment they are used in. Shell 'Nissan Oil 20W-50' is formulated for Nissan Dealers for all warranty work on Nissan passenger vehicles (Globally) and has significant concentration of ZDDP, 2 - 2.5 times the ratio of modern spec mineral motor oils. Shell Harvella T - this is a 15W-40 Universal Tractor Oil with very high concentration of ZDDP, double the concentration of Nissan Oil, and makes a good 'break-in' for standard passenger engine re-builds, and for use in a gearbox that uses engine oil. I use the Harvella T for the gearbox oils in my Landrover Series III, Discovery and Range Rover as well as the MKIII Midget, and for engine oil in the Kawasaki KLF300 quad. I use the Nissan Oil in all my V8's, GM, Ford and Land Rover and of course the Midget. Not sure outside Australia and the UK, on the availability of these products directly from Shell. But you could check with your Nissan dealer. Happy to supply the oil spec sheets, or you can view at the Shell web site. cheerz....n You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jul 22 20:28:47 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:28:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil Message-ID: <7EF74C6DA67842219538A629ECA3D471@OwnerPC> I finally got the time to go get that letter out and read it. Very interesting stuff. The letter reads, in part: "Isky recommends the use of only the following motor oils for maximum cam lobe and lifter protection BEFORE and AFTER the break-in period because they are the only conventional mineral based oils available with generous levels of zinc/phosphorous additive package: Brad Penn Penn Grade 1 ** The very best of all in our opinion and the only oil refined from 100% Pennsylvania crude. Pennzoil "GTP" Racing Oil (excellent - do not confuse with regular grade Pennzoil). Valvoline Racing Oil (excellent - do not confuse with regular grades of Valvoline or Valvoline VR-1) **Because we believe Brad-Penn product (formerly known as Kendall GT-1) to be superior to all other oils, we have enclosed a product brochure for your convenience." Pretty strong testimony, from one of the long-time, leading manufacturers of high performance camshafts. Isky does, however, advocate adding ZDDP (EOS from any GM dealer) if you do not use one of the above mentioned oils. They also say the following about full synthetic oils: "Please note, Isky does not recommend the use of synthetic oils with any flat tappet camshaft - especially during break-in. If you must use synthetic oil after break-in, there are only two brands we are comfortable recommending. They are Amsoil (Red) Racing Oil and Joe Gibbs Performance Racing Oil. Both contain zinc and phosphorous and will fare well AFTER break-in has been successfully completed. Other synthetics, especially those with very low viscosity index numbers (i.e. 0w-15, 5w-20 etc.) have very low film strength and are not designed for, nor should they be employed in any flat-tappet cam installation." Pretty interesting, and indicative of how important it is to them that the correct oil be used with their cams (all flat-tappet cam manufacturers have seen some pretty ridiculous increases in their warranty claims since the advent of the dreaded API SM spec oils). Isky also points out that, since '04, the removal of ALL ZDDP from SM spec engine oils was mandated. Yikes! Food for thought. Bud Osbourne From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 22 21:30:21 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:30:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: <4A67BCC8.9080208@frontiernet.net> References: <1254146871.4655151248311345848.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A67BCC8.9080208@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: TurtleWax Chrome Polish. Removes rust like you have real well. Trust me, with a Harley Davidson and two British cars, I know how to treat chrome. It has been rated very high when compared to other polishes for removing rust on chrome in a recent article in Classic Motorsports magazine. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 02 Heritage Springer On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > I have had good luck with Brasso. > > Kate > > > ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: > >> I am looking to take out (hopefully) some of the small rust specs on the >> bumpers of my 74 and shine up the windscreen somehow.B I am not looking >> for >> trailer queen status but more to get some extra oohh's and ahh's when we >> go >> out. >> >> ryan >> >> '74 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 21:33:01 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:33:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: References: <1254146871.4655151248311345848.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A67BCC8.9080208@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <402188520907222033i7b91ee38j325f7d2155c2dee0@mail.gmail.com> > TurtleWax Chrome Polish. Removes rust like you have real well. Trust me, > with a Harley Davidson and two British cars, I know how to treat chrome. It > has been rated very high when compared to other polishes for removing rust > on chrome in a recent article in Classic Motorsports magazine. I bought some of that on the strength of that CM review. I found that it polishes up nice, but the next day it looks muddy. I will try something different next time. David L From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 22 21:34:19 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:34:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > TurtleWax Chrome Polish. I second that, and I'm one of those people who buy one of everything and try them all. In retrospect, it's not the best way to select drugs, but it works for car products. From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 21:37:48 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:37:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907222037v2bc9fef6n87580d06aa7e5048@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/22 Billy Zoom : >> TurtleWax Chrome Polish. > I second that, and I'm one of those people who buy one of everything and try > them all. In retrospect, it's not the best way to select drugs, but it > works for car products. I must not be able to follow instructions then... Sure explains a LOT ;-) David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 21:38:31 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:38:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art Message-ID: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> http://tinyurl.com/m75upw or http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1201018/My-cars-jet--Or-turn-garage-door-work-art.html Looks kewl to me! David L From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Jul 22 21:38:36 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:38:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: <402188520907222033i7b91ee38j325f7d2155c2dee0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1254146871.4655151248311345848.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A67BCC8.9080208@frontiernet.net> <402188520907222033i7b91ee38j325f7d2155c2dee0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907222038m2a157d20o9851c8e47a85be97@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> TurtleWax Chrome Polish. Removes rust like you have real well. Trust me, >> with a Harley Davidson and two British cars, I know how to treat chrome. > It >> has been rated very high when compared to other polishes for removing rust >> on chrome in a recent article in Classic Motorsports magazine. > > I bought some of that on the strength of that CM review. I found that > it polishes up nice, but the next day it looks muddy. I will try > something different next time. Exactly what I found. Back to NEVR-DULL (http://www.nevrdull.com/) for me; it always worked before don't know why I decided to try something different. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Jul 22 22:05:54 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:05:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0907222038m2a157d20o9851c8e47a85be97@mail.gmail.com> References: <1254146871.4655151248311345848.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4A67BCC8.9080208@frontiernet.net><402188520907222033i7b91ee38j325f7d2155c2dee0@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0907222038m2a157d20o9851c8e47a85be97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: For what its worth, I use a cleaner called "Bar Keepers Friend" which contains oxalic acid once a year and then wax it with the Turtle Wax stuff. Just the way I was brought up..it was in the same cleaning bucket as Westley's Bleech-White. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Foster Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:39 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:33 PM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: >> TurtleWax Chrome Polish. Removes rust like you have real well. Trust me, >> with a Harley Davidson and two British cars, I know how to treat chrome. > It >> has been rated very high when compared to other polishes for removing rust >> on chrome in a recent article in Classic Motorsports magazine. > > I bought some of that on the strength of that CM review. I found that > it polishes up nice, but the next day it looks muddy. I will try > something different next time. Exactly what I found. Back to NEVR-DULL (http://www.nevrdull.com/) for me; it always worked before don't know why I decided to try something different. You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 22 22:11:17 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <804176.42746.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Me too, but I landed on Simichrome. > I second that, and I'm one of those people who buy one of > everything and try > them all. In retrospect, it's not the best way to > select drugs, but it > works for car products. From davriker at nwi.net Wed Jul 22 22:29:03 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:29:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil References: <7EF74C6DA67842219538A629ECA3D471@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <4A7DA72C31F84F5FAB16FB276262B101@MAIN> So when is somebody going to make retrofit roller lifters for the a-series engine and be done with all this? David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil > "Please note, Isky does not recommend the use of synthetic oils with any > flat > tappet camshaft - especially during break-in. If you must use synthetic > oil > after break-in, there are only two brands we are comfortable recommending. > They are Amsoil (Red) Racing Oil and Joe Gibbs Performance Racing Oil. > Both > contain zinc and phosphorous and will fare well AFTER break-in has been > successfully completed. Other synthetics, especially those with very low > viscosity index numbers (i.e. 0w-15, 5w-20 etc.) have very low film > strength > and are not designed for, nor should they be employed in any flat-tappet > cam > installation." From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Jul 22 22:29:55 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:29:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oils ain't Oils - well some are References: Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" > Write back when you have some numbers to back this up. No offense, but > there is way too much rhetoric and way too little facts floating around. Exactly, I think the whole ZDDP thing is blown way out of proportion. No doubt fueled by those who have some snake oil to sell. Read these two.... http://www.nonlintec.com/sprite/oils_and_zddp.pdf http://www.nonlintec.com/sprite/oil_myths.pdf From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 22 22:58:58 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:58:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Number 550 Damaged Message-ID: I was told today by my friend that is restoring Bugeye number 550 for auction that the bodyman/painter dropped the shell, rear end first, off a forklift while moving it around his shop. Extensive damage, but not un-repairable. besides the damage to the rear, the two door openings are significantly closer together now at the top. Just made me cringe. This is the same guy doing the painting and bodywork to my BN2 right now. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 22 23:06:19 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:06:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 In-Reply-To: <4A67A2CA.1030406@sbcglobal.net> References: <4A67A2CA.1030406@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I have had nothing but excellent results dealing with APT, but I live only 10 minutes away from them. Just drive the car over and install it in the parking lot. Sorry Jay. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Lee Fox wrote: > The most reasonable air filters for the HS2 that I've found are the filters > for the Spitfire MK1 or MK3, Vicky Brit part #3-177. $9.95 each. Can mount > the directly to the carb without housing. Works fine for me. > > > > > I'm looking for a reasonable air filter assembly for my 1275 with dual SU > HS2 carbs.... seem to be hard to find, or over the top on cost. I'd really > like to find one similar to the one below, but will settle for other > options. I need the high flow filter set-up. > > From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 22 23:22:10 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:22:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay In-Reply-To: <2E9FD26371B743309E71CEAECED59777@HERBYZ> References: <2E9FD26371B743309E71CEAECED59777@HERBYZ> Message-ID: Superlites are better. There is a steel insert seat for the lig nuts on the Superlites, not the Minators. The Superlites I bought from pack Racing even came with the lug nuts. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Herby wrote: > According to Mini Mania the 'GN' Minilites are "less than 13 lbs". > > Per Pack Racing (now VTO Performance) the Superlite is 11.7 lbs. > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - For Sale) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com > www.herbytoys.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:44 AM > To: Edward Perez; Spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay > > How much do they weigh? > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Jul 22 23:42:37 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:42:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil In-Reply-To: <4A7DA72C31F84F5FAB16FB276262B101@MAIN> References: <7EF74C6DA67842219538A629ECA3D471@OwnerPC> <4A7DA72C31F84F5FAB16FB276262B101@MAIN> Message-ID: Oh, now you are telling me VR-1 is not good enough? Where the Hell do you get Valvoline Racing Oil? It says right on the bottle that VR-1 is for our type of engine. What's up with that? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite with VR-1 oil in it. 56 BN2 with no oil in it because it has not been run yet. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:29 PM, David Riker wrote: > So when is somebody going to make retrofit roller lifters for the a-series > engine and be done with all this? > David R. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:28 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil > > > > "Please note, Isky does not recommend the use of synthetic oils with any >> flat >> tappet camshaft - especially during break-in. If you must use synthetic >> oil >> after break-in, there are only two brands we are comfortable recommending. >> They are Amsoil (Red) Racing Oil and Joe Gibbs Performance Racing Oil. >> Both >> contain zinc and phosphorous and will fare well AFTER break-in has been >> successfully completed. Other synthetics, especially those with very low >> viscosity index numbers (i.e. 0w-15, 5w-20 etc.) have very low film >> strength >> and are not designed for, nor should they be employed in any flat-tappet >> cam >> installation." >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jul 23 05:34:45 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:34:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil In-Reply-To: References: <7EF74C6DA67842219538A629ECA3D471@OwnerPC> <4A7DA72C31F84F5FAB16FB276262B101@MAIN> Message-ID: <1EF6DEA845614E66A30100FDA5E03CE2@OwnerPC> Mike, I'm not telling you anything, my friend. I'm just passing along what Isky says on the subject ;) Do with it what you wish. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com To: David Riker Cc: Bud Osbourne ; Spridgets Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil Oh, now you are telling me VR-1 is not good enough? Where the Hell do you get Valvoline Racing Oil? It says right on the bottle that VR-1 is for our type of engine. What's up with that? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite with VR-1 oil in it. 56 BN2 with no oil in it because it has not been run yet. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:29 PM, David Riker wrote: So when is somebody going to make retrofit roller lifters for the a-series engine and be done with all this? David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil "Please note, Isky does not recommend the use of synthetic oils with any flat tappet camshaft - especially during break-in. If you must use synthetic oil after break-in, there are only two brands we are comfortable recommending. They are Amsoil (Red) Racing Oil and Joe Gibbs Performance Racing Oil. Both contain zinc and phosphorous and will fare well AFTER break-in has been successfully completed. Other synthetics, especially those with very low viscosity index numbers (i.e. 0w-15, 5w-20 etc.) have very low film strength and are not designed for, nor should they be employed in any flat-tappet cam installation." From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jul 23 05:41:53 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:41:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil In-Reply-To: <4A7DA72C31F84F5FAB16FB276262B101@MAIN> References: <7EF74C6DA67842219538A629ECA3D471@OwnerPC> <4A7DA72C31F84F5FAB16FB276262B101@MAIN> Message-ID: <7EECA661A46E4CF59AAD01A1A9DC6892@OwnerPC> Don't expect any permanent relief from "all of this" until all traces of "junk science" are purged from the equation of environmental regulation........in other words: Never. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Riker" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil > So when is somebody going to make retrofit roller lifters for the a-series > engine and be done with all this? > David R. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bud Osbourne" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:28 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil > > > >> "Please note, Isky does not recommend the use of synthetic oils with any >> flat >> tappet camshaft - especially during break-in. If you must use synthetic >> oil >> after break-in, there are only two brands we are comfortable >> recommending. >> They are Amsoil (Red) Racing Oil and Joe Gibbs Performance Racing Oil. >> Both >> contain zinc and phosphorous and will fare well AFTER break-in has been >> successfully completed. Other synthetics, especially those with very low >> viscosity index numbers (i.e. 0w-15, 5w-20 etc.) have very low film >> strength >> and are not designed for, nor should they be employed in any flat-tappet >> cam >> installation." From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu Jul 23 06:30:02 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:30:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? Message-ID: <835201ca0b91$4cdc7440$116a010a@mail2world.com> Good stuff. We use it on a bunch of things, including silver. Admittedly, I had no need for it on my (black rubber) bumpers... :) Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Ron Soave [soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: 7/23/2009 12:13:17 AM To: rrengineer at dslextreme.com;kgb at frontiernet.net;billyzoom at billyzoom.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? Me too, but I landed on Simichrome. > I second that, and I'm one of those people who buy one of > everything and try > them all. In retrospect, it's not the best way to > select drugs, but it > works for car products. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Jul 23 10:02:03 2009 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Spridgets] THE WOODSTOCK (NY) BRITISH CAR MEET - SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 26th Message-ID: <5251343.1248364923731.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> econd Annual WOODSTOCK BRITISH CAR MEET (British motorcycles & pre-1980 European cars invited too) SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 26th - 10:00AM to 4:PM (Rain Date: Sunday, September 27) AT THE WOODSTOCK PLAYHOUSE Intersection of Route 212 and Route 375, Woodstock, NY Join more than 100 British car owners for a smashing display of classic, quirky, and lovable British classics, right in the heart of Woodstock New York and the Catskill Mountains. Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Projects-in-progress, daily drivers, and vintage racers are just as welcome as Concours quality show cars. If it's British, bring it! The heart of the picturesque and historic hamlet of Woodstock is just a few minutes walk from the Playhouse, offering shops, restaurants, live music, & much more. Cars will enter the field starting at 10:AM, and the fun goes on all day. Around 2 pm, we'll present awards, including People's Choice and the Longest Distance Traveled. Spectators are welcome - FREE parking is available. The registration fee for British cars is $15 per car at the gate; there is no pre-registration. All of the proceeds from this event benefit the non-profit Woodstock Playhouse. non-profit Food and Refreshments will be available DIRECTIONS >From NYS Thruway / I-87: Take Exit 19 (Kingston) and head west on Route 28 for 5.8 miles (Speed Trap - stay under 50 mph) then turn right onto Route 375 North, which will end 2.9 miles later at Route 212 and the Playhouse. >From Saugerties (Exit 20) Take Route 212 West into the hamlet of Woodstock. The intersection of Route 375 will be on your left; the Playhouse entrance is on your right. From points west: Take Route 28 East to Route 375 North. Travel 2.9 miles, and the road will end at Route 212 and the Playhouse. FOR MORE INFORMATION: e-mail Woodstock.British at gmail.com From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 10:14:37 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:14:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] THE WOODSTOCK (NY) BRITISH CAR MEET - SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 26th In-Reply-To: <5251343.1248364923731.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <5251343.1248364923731.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910907230914w4cf460f2t191aa3cf2dfa6e75@mail.gmail.com> "Don't take the brown acid. The brown acid is bad." From conan at intrex.net Thu Jul 23 12:12:12 2009 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:12:12 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil for Spridgets Message-ID: <200907231412.AA2820800610@intrex.net> I was just wondering... Has anyone any experience with LE (Lubrication Engineers) lubricants? It is my understanding that ZDDP contains a heavy metal that is heavily controlled by the EPA, in the U.S., and that has a lot to do with why it's gotten so scarce in engine oils lately. A friend of mine, who was involved in professional road-racing in the U.S. for many years, always used Kendall GT-1 back in the '70's, but found that there were problems solved by using LE that even Kendall couldn't overcome. He currently has a business, in Raleigh, NC, that sells, among other things, LE products. This flyer about one of their additives is on his website: http://www.autosportgallery.com/MONOLEC.pdf Ed in NC From conan at intrex.net Thu Jul 23 12:22:11 2009 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:22:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay Message-ID: <200907231422.AA2891579498@intrex.net> Nobody ever mentions Panasport. Why is that? I'd always heard they were very good quality. Ed in NC From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 23 12:24:45 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay Message-ID: <806540.39718.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> $ Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Thu, 7/23/09, conan wrote: From: conan Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MG wheels on ebay To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 2:22 PM Nobody ever mentions Panasport. Why is that? I'd always heard they were very good quality. Ed in NC From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 23 12:26:00 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:26:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil for Spridgets In-Reply-To: <200907231412.AA2820800610@intrex.net> Message-ID: > It is my understanding that ZDDP contains a heavy metal that is heavily > controlled by the EPA, in the U.S., and that has a lot to do with why it's gotten so scarce in engine oils lately. ZDDP was removed because it can shorten the life of catalytic converters, the same reason we have unleaded gas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_dithiophosphate As long as you don't drive a new Cadillac, it's affect on the cat shouldn't be a problem. They go through converters about once a year, compared to >300,000 miles for a typical Honda converter. From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 23 12:37:02 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:37:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wanted:- Advice on re-doing a cylinder head... Message-ID: <4A684B5E.4961.EAEB6B@kk7ss.verizon.net> After the usual assortment of "Aw Shit's" and "Damn's" plus a few other choice words, I have determined that #2 inlet guide is worn enough to admit oil into the combustion chamber... I have been working (slowly!) on re-doing a spare head. It's been cleaned, valves, springs, guides are all fitted - just needs the rocker assembly from the head that's still on the motor... Here's the question: after all this time, even though it's been in the house all this time, the surface of the replacement head has taken on a very thin 'sheen' of rust. Would it be OK to just give the milled surfaces a quick wipe-over with 000 wire wool?? And could I then just paint the outside (rough) surfaces with Krylon spray paint?? Or ???? Thanks in advance... ;-)) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 23 12:38:54 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:38:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: http://www.carbibles.com/engineoil_bible.html > Phosphorus (a component of ZDDP - Zinc Dialkyl-Dithio-Phosphate) is the key > component for valve train protection in an engine and 1600ppm (parts per > million) used to be the standard for phosphorus in engine oil. In 1996 the EPA > forced that to be dropped to 800ppm and then more recently (2004?) to 400ppm - > a quarter of the original spec. Valvetrains and their components are not > especially cheap to replace and this drop in phosphorus content has been a > problem for many engines (especially those with flat-tappet type cams). So why > was the level dropped? Money. Next to lead, it's the second most destructive > substance to shove through a catalytic converter. The US government mandated a > 150,000 mile liftime on catalytic converters and the quickest way to do that > was to drop phosphorous levels and bugger the valvetrain problem. Literally. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 23 12:53:15 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:53:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wanted:- Advice on re-doing a cylinder head... In-Reply-To: <4A684B5E.4961.EAEB6B@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A684B5E.4961.EAEB6B@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <8166280808074DF5BE7CCF47AC4E1686@spider> Just knock the rust off with steel wool; blow off the 'dust.' A light film of motor oil will stop it. ...bill in Oregon ================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:37 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Wanted:- Advice on re-doing a cylinder head... After the usual assortment of "Aw Shit's" and "Damn's" plus a few other choice words, I have determined that #2 inlet guide is worn enough to admit oil into the combustion chamber... I have been working (slowly!) on re-doing a spare head. It's been cleaned, valves, springs, guides are all fitted - just needs the rocker assembly from the head that's still on the motor... Here's the question: after all this time, even though it's been in the house all this time, the surface of the replacement head has taken on a very thin 'sheen' of rust. Would it be OK to just give the milled surfaces a quick wipe-over with 000 wire wool?? And could I then just paint the outside (rough) surfaces with Krylon spray paint?? Or ???? Thanks in advance... ;-)) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA From 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET Thu Jul 23 13:06:26 2009 From: 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET (63ahbj7) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:06:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Wanted:- Advice on re-doing a cylinder head... In-Reply-To: <8166280808074DF5BE7CCF47AC4E1686@spider> References: <4A684B5E.4961.EAEB6B@kk7ss.verizon.net> <8166280808074DF5BE7CCF47AC4E1686@spider> Message-ID: <4A68B4B2.6040302@COMCAST.NET> <> Prolly play He|| with his desire to PAINT it, Bill !!!! LOL From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 23 13:36:10 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:36:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wanted:- Advice on re-doing a cylinder head... In-Reply-To: <4A68B4B2.6040302@COMCAST.NET> References: <4A684B5E.4961.EAEB6B@kk7ss.verizon.net> <8166280808074DF5BE7CCF47AC4E1686@spider> <4A68B4B2.6040302@COMCAST.NET> Message-ID: <48F4F3DD7E0D492CA68E2C084E8C48F2@spider> You're right. I have GOT to start reading these questions with more patience. I was thinking the mating surface. Rust elsewhere just give good 'tooth' for the paint. ...bill -----Original Message----- From: 63ahbj7 [mailto:63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET] Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:06 PM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Wanted:- Advice on re-doing a cylinder head... <> Prolly play He|| with his desire to PAINT it, Bill !!!! LOL From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 23 13:48:24 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:48:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Wanted:- Advice on re-doing a cylinder head... In-Reply-To: <48F4F3DD7E0D492CA68E2C084E8C48F2@spider> References: <4A684B5E.4961.EAEB6B@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <4A68B4B2.6040302@COMCAST.NET>, <48F4F3DD7E0D492CA68E2C084E8C48F2@spider> Message-ID: <4A685C18.9145.12C4436@kk7ss.verizon.net> Thanks to all, cleaning up the head will be done in the kitchen - there *are* advantages to living alone . Temperatures are going to hit 104 - 106*F (40*C - 41*C) for the next few days so garage (uninsulated) work is temporarily suspended ;-(( -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jul 23 13:56:22 2009 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:56:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets Message-ID: Check carefully, Jim. Rotella's formulation was changed last year. Send 3 oz. to a lab for a virgin oil analysis and see what comes back under the columns labeled Zn and Ph. In fact, there are internet sites (like BITOG) where folks have posted the lab reports of various oils they have submitted. But notice the date of the posting. Oil companies tweek their formulations without changing the name or the label. Only believe your own analysis or one that is fairly recent. And don't assume it'll still be the same product next year. JohnD Message: 11 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:28:45 -0500 From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets Cc: Spridget list Message-ID: <43840a7e0907211528v785e6e24i4e72afac147f637e at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What Brad and Glen said..... Rotella-T is what the antique bike guys use too. I still have a few bottles of ZDDP additive to use up but when they are gone its Rotella-T for the Midget and the old bikes. Cheers!! Jim From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 23 13:58:00 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:58:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! Message-ID: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> My daughter has given me a short-billed baseball cap... On the front it says "Genuine Antique Person" On the back it says "Been There, Done That, Can't Remember" Is she trying to tell me something...? Just trying to make the heat bearable -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From richb at u.washington.edu Thu Jul 23 14:36:30 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:36:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! References: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <34AF06647A894180A50FFE88E4DAA7BA@psych.washington.edu> Dave Jump in your air conditioned car and head over to our side of the mountains on Saturday for the Western Washington ABFM. It's only suppose to be about 90 in Bellevue and the show grounds are partially shaded by trees. On a side note, Susan and I were going to head over to your side of the mountains and do some camping near Wenatchee. The predicted 107 degree temps for next week changed our minds. We'll stay on this side. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! > My daughter has given me a short-billed baseball cap... > On the front it says "Genuine Antique Person" > On the back it says "Been There, Done That, Can't Remember" > > Is she trying to tell me something...? > > Just trying to make the heat bearable > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From John.Deikis at va.gov Thu Jul 23 14:51:21 2009 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:51:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets Message-ID: More is not always better. ZDDP is also a corrosive. Flat tappet cams seem to like that 1200-1400 ppm. Go over that amount (like dumping too much red-bottle STP into your 20-50 GTX) and you swing the pendulum the other way. Easiest insurance: use oil formulated for aircooled motorcycles. Only a little less easy: use Brad Penn which you can get by UPS or, if you happen to live near a distributor or race shop, right out the back door. Valvoline or Castrol for "classic cars" I would not trust until I had a sample tested. If you buy a "race oil" - rather than a "street oil", you should be aware that the additive package has ZDDP but is not formulated to tolerate long change intervals. Then again, we probably "over-change" our oils. JohnD Message: 5 Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:39:36 -0400 From: "Bud Osbourne" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets To: "Spridgets" , "Peter Caldwell" Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Personally, I would never try to ad ZDDP to the crankcase. Too easy to get the proportions wrong (too much ZDDP is not a good thing, either), and you are introducing a large "blob" of the stuff into one place... Bud Osbourne From eap2140 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 23 15:09:45 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:09:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! In-Reply-To: <34AF06647A894180A50FFE88E4DAA7BA@psych.washington.edu> References: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> <34AF06647A894180A50FFE88E4DAA7BA@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <716159.13003.qm@web33702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sadly, I'll be missing my first ABFM in Bellevue. I sacrificed MY weekend with the N.O.S.H.I.T. guys (a worthy sacrifice it was). I'll be getting re-acquainted with my kids and wife (what's her name?) camping at Fidalgo Bay in the air conditioned Moho (motorhome). Drinking margaritas and playing on the beach! Can't wait to hear the stories. I'll be 100% next year! Edward ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: kk7ss at verizon.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 1:36:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! Dave Jump in your air conditioned car and head over to our side of the mountains on Saturday for the Western Washington ABFM. It's only suppose to be about 90 in Bellevue and the show grounds are partially shaded by trees. On a side note, Susan and I were going to head over to your side of the mountains and do some camping near Wenatchee. The predicted 107 degree temps for next week changed our minds. We'll stay on this side. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, Wa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! > My daughter has given me a short-billed baseball cap... > On the front it says "Genuine Antique Person" > On the back it says "Been There, Done That, Can't Remember" > > Is she trying to tell me something...? > > Just trying to make the heat bearable > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Thu Jul 23 15:25:37 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:25:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oils ain't Oils - well some are In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1FFFB1309A844C2E8F562D3D217A0403@OwnerPC> Dean, Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but, having read the articles you refer to; I have to say that I find fault with both of them. Specifically, the GM guy (writing for GM, no less) has questionable credibility as well as a very strong possibility of conflict of interest, since GM was reported to be at the forefront of "throwing older/flat-tappet engines under the bus". It has been reported, elsewhere, that the auto manufacturers were warned, specifically, that the reduced levels of ZDDP would significantly shorten the service life of flat-tappet engines. They chose to ignore that fact, due to the fact that they no longer had any flat-tappet engines covered under warranty. The Pennsylvania crude oil "myth" he speaks of has been confirmed by many engineers, over the years, as being a truth, not a myth. It has never been disproven, that I've been made aware of. The other article is just plain out of date, among other things. It was, obviously, written before ZDDP was completely removed from SM spec oil (in '04 according to Iskenderian, who has much at stake, involving lube oil). His percentage figures, for ZDDP in "racing oil" are very questionable. On one hand, he seems to imply that ZDDP may be un-needed, then on the other, he states that he will ad (way too much) ZDDP to an oil for break in, which already has a ZDDP percentage that hasn't been available for some time now. Gotta cut this one short, to go pick up a car. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hedin" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Nigel Hales" ; Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oils ain't Oils - well some are > ----- Original Message ----- > > I think the whole ZDDP thing is blown way out of proportion. No doubt > fueled by those who have some snake oil to sell. > > Read these two.... > http://www.nonlintec.com/sprite/oils_and_zddp.pdf > http://www.nonlintec.com/sprite/oil_myths.pdf From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 23 16:16:08 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:16:08 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Pre-1997 amount was 1600ppm. Brad Penn oil is 800ppm. > More is not always better. ZDDP is also a corrosive. Flat tappet cams > seem to like that 1200-1400 ppm. Go over that amount (like dumping too > much red-bottle STP into your 20-50 GTX) and you swing the pendulum the > other way. > > Easiest insurance: use oil formulated for aircooled motorcycles. > > Only a little less easy: use Brad Penn which you can get by UPS or, if > you happen to live near a distributor or race shop, right out the back > door. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 23 16:20:22 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:20:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets References: Message-ID: <2E38E384F0A64895A1774ECE034D4FA2@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Deikis, John G" ; Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets Pre-1997 amount was 1600ppm. Brad Penn oil is 800ppm. ===================== Billy, where did you get your figures from? >From the Brad Penn website: The Brad Penn. Penn Grade 1. High Performance Oils contain the higher level of anti-wear (ZDDP - zinc dialkyldithiophosphate) and enhanced film strength so critical to proper high performance engine protection. The Penn-Grade 1. oils "typical" 1,500 ppm Zinc (Zn) and 1340-1400 ppm Phosphorus (P) content provide the needed anti-wear protection to critical engine parts, such as piston/cylinder walls, roller cams under heavy valve spring pressure and especially those that employ a solid "flat tappet" type system. http://www.bradpennracing.com/Zinc.html LAD From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 16:24:40 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:24:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0907231524q180c2ecey7eeb1118e6d5ae95@mail.gmail.com> Per my telcon with them yesterday evening and per their website: "*The Penn-Grade 1. oils typical 1,500 ppm Zinc (Zn) and 1340-1400 ppm Phosphorus (P)*" Whatever.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Pre-1997 amount was 1600ppm. > Brad Penn oil is 800ppm. > > > More is not always better. ZDDP is also a corrosive. Flat tappet cams > > seem to like that 1200-1400 ppm. Go over that amount (like dumping too > > much red-bottle STP into your 20-50 GTX) and you swing the pendulum the > > other way. > > > > Easiest insurance: use oil formulated for aircooled motorcycles. > > > > Only a little less easy: use Brad Penn which you can get by UPS or, if > > you happen to live near a distributor or race shop, right out the back > > door. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jul 23 18:01:45 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:01:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Oils ain't Oils - well some are References: <1FFFB1309A844C2E8F562D3D217A0403@OwnerPC> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" > Dean, > Everyone is entitled to his own opinion... Yep, and here is my opinion... Engines were running flat tappets long before ZDDP was around and they will be running flat tappets long after ZDDP disappears. My point is ZDDP is not the only anti-wear additive. From wolf.brent at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 18:37:23 2009 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:37:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! In-Reply-To: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <62b83300907231737p2d2b94c5gd48afb268bacad0b@mail.gmail.com> Yes, she is trying to tell you something, I can't remember what it is!!!!! On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Dave G. wrote: > My daughter has given me a short-billed baseball cap... > On the front it says "Genuine Antique Person" > On the back it says "Been There, Done That, Can't Remember" > > Is she trying to tell me something...? > > Just trying to make the heat bearable > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wolf.brent at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 23 18:50:00 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:50:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oils ain't Oils - well some are References: <1FFFB1309A844C2E8F562D3D217A0403@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <60B90475177743969B4940A76FD712F9@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hedin" To: "Bud Osbourne" ; "Larry Daniels" ; "Nigel Hales" ; Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oils ain't Oils - well some are ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Osbourne" > Dean, > Everyone is entitled to his own opinion... Yep, and here is my opinion... Engines were running flat tappets long before ZDDP was around and they will be running flat tappets long after ZDDP disappears. My point is ZDDP is not the only anti-wear additive. ============== Hell, yeah. Let's ignore the facts and listen to those who are the "true" experts. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 18:59:55 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:59:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! In-Reply-To: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907231759y29787848k7550864e664caee6@mail.gmail.com> You guys could come to Southern Oregon...albeit in the 107 range here as well. Herb Grants Pass, Oregon From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Jul 23 19:03:16 2009 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:03:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907231759y29787848k7550864e664caee6@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2ad6c6b10907231759y29787848k7550864e664caee6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01ee01ca0bfa$87b4c0e0$971e42a0$@com> Speak for yourself,, I never saw above 70 today.... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:00 PM To: kk7ss at verizon.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! You guys could come to Southern Oregon...albeit in the 107 range here as well. Herb Grants Pass, Oregon You are subscribed as pelliott at innercite.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: 07/23/09 06:02:00 From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 19:16:43 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:16:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! In-Reply-To: <01ee01ca0bfa$87b4c0e0$971e42a0$@com> References: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2ad6c6b10907231759y29787848k7550864e664caee6@mail.gmail.com> <01ee01ca0bfa$87b4c0e0$971e42a0$@com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907231816o443d209bia96cf52c0b17e42b@mail.gmail.com> Where are you? Weather Channel shows 91 now (6:15) in Medford. GP is close to that. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Patrick Elliott wrote: > Speak for yourself,, I never saw above 70 today.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:00 PM > To: kk7ss at verizon.net > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! > > You guys could come to Southern Oregon...albeit in the 107 range here as > well. > > Herb > Grants Pass, Oregon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pelliott at innercite.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: 07/23/09 > 06:02:00 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 23 19:30:41 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:30:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <2E38E384F0A64895A1774ECE034D4FA2@Larry> Message-ID: > Billy, where did you get your figures from? The info regarding Penn oils came from the email they sent me earlier this week, which I copied and posted on this message board. The numbers regarding how many ZDDPppm were eliminated in which years came from several sites for which I also posted links on this message board in the last few days. I'm at a gig right now, but I guess I can post everything again when I get back to my home computer. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 19:33:54 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:33:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: References: <1254146871.4655151248311345848.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A67BCC8.9080208@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907231833g1bee38b2rb6c412bbc3ff4635@mail.gmail.com> I second the TurtleWax...AND...it's cheap, (so Frank likes it (?)) The article in Classic Motorsports was fairly comprehensive and covered a number of polishes. Expensive to not so expensive. Also, 0000 steelwool helps. It can be used on glass to remove hard-water and other spots. Do 'test' a small, inconspicuous area first. Herb On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > TurtleWax Chrome Polish. Removes rust like you have real well. Trust me, > with a Harley Davidson and two British cars, I know how to treat chrome. > It > has been rated very high when compared to other polishes for removing rust > on chrome in a recent article in Classic Motorsports magazine. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > 02 Heritage Springer From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 19:37:57 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:37:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Number 550 Damaged In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907231837y2bcdc57ey9b06e2ce858db84a@mail.gmail.com> Mike, Tell him, PLEASE, no forklifts! Herb On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:58 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > I was told today by my friend that is restoring Bugeye number 550 for > auction that the bodyman/painter dropped the shell, rear end first, off a > forklift while moving it around his shop. Extensive damage, but not > un-repairable. besides the damage to the rear, the two door openings are > significantly closer together now at the top. Just made me cringe. This > is > the same guy doing the painting and bodywork to my BN2 right now. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Jul 23 19:54:19 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:54:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Number 550 Damaged In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907231837y2bcdc57ey9b06e2ce858db84a@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10907231837y2bcdc57ey9b06e2ce858db84a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Believe me, after all the money I have invested in it, I will get Frank's nail gun and use it if he uses the forklift to move my BN2 around. Mike On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:37 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Mike, > > Tell him, PLEASE, no forklifts! > > Herb > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:58 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> I was told today by my friend that is restoring Bugeye number 550 for >> auction that the bodyman/painter dropped the shell, rear end first, off a >> forklift while moving it around his shop. Extensive damage, but not >> un-repairable. besides the damage to the rear, the two door openings are >> significantly closer together now at the top. Just made me cringe. This >> is >> the same guy doing the painting and bodywork to my BN2 right now. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jul 23 19:56:31 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <275326.87064.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 7/23/09, Billy Zoom wrote: > the last few days. I'm > at a gig right now, but I guess I can post everything again Pretty funny...I'm taking apart a motor while listening to X, and the guitarist is posting about Spridgets... Surrealism rules, Ron From mdmyers_ct at juno.com Thu Jul 23 20:20:03 2009 From: mdmyers_ct at juno.com (Michael D Myers) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:20:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed Iskenderian Racing Cams' letter re: oil Message-ID: <20090723.222006.4044.0.mdmyers_ct@juno.com> Only problem with that is you go from sliding wearout of a cast iron cam to a rolling contact fatigue failure of the same. Roller cams need a deeper and harder case, preferably on a steel cam, although I helped develop a forged powdered metal cam lobe to work with our roller followers in a previous life... Mike Myers On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:29:03 -0700 "David Riker" writes: > So when is somebody going to make retrofit roller lifters for the > a-series > engine and be done with all this? > David R. > ____________________________________________________________ See the difference a digital projector can make. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTMWI9KEE7bN11fxOumZsmqCEIWTFhTfO6WaZE3TCYtyXzuD2EMlCQ/ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jul 23 20:32:22 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:32:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad oils? was RE: Oils ain't Oils - well some are In-Reply-To: References: <1FFFB1309A844C2E8F562D3D217A0403@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <4F8767AA628C45DAAF2F1BE3E8F52E60@BASEMENTDELL> Ok, I can see both sides, very interesting, glad its not a gold or silver arrow debate, yadda yadda.... Any opinions out there of oils/brands to just avoid off the shelf? Chris From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 23 21:12:42 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:12:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] how to polish chrome bumpers and windscreen? In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907231833g1bee38b2rb6c412bbc3ff4635@mail.gmail.com> References: <1254146871.4655151248311345848.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4A67BCC8.9080208@frontiernet.net> <2ad6c6b10907231833g1bee38b2rb6c412bbc3ff4635@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6926AA.6060903@comcast.net> WFO Herb wrote: > I second the TurtleWax...AND...it's cheap, (so Frank likes it (?)) > I started out at 17 years old with good ole cheap Turtle wax, I have bought all the top of the line (expensive) gimmicks and I even tested the cheap and expensive Maguires products side by side and I found out that good ole Turtle wax is just as good as any/all the gimmicks. I do use carnuba hard wax when i do a wax job, the rest of the year cheap soft Turtle wax works for me. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jul 23 21:17:11 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:17:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/m75upw > Clarici Graphics has done a few of these some years back. They showed me the shot of the Rolls parked next to the Ferrari but the inside of the garage was spotless. I do not know the cost but my cousin does this type of work. Want a picture of your dog on the kitchen ceramic tiles? They did that. But the tile man not only had to glue the tiles in, he had to decipher the puzzle of tiles before he glued them in. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jul 23 22:08:12 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:08:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <275326.87064.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <275326.87064.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907232108x56cb72d2jaa9b1bdacae1583f@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > > > Surrealism rules, That's like Lancelot's brother, right? -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jul 24 06:02:15 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:02:15 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907231816o443d209bia96cf52c0b17e42b@mail.gmail.com> References: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2ad6c6b10907231759y29787848k7550864e664caee6@mail.gmail.com> <01ee01ca0bfa$87b4c0e0$971e42a0$@com> <2ad6c6b10907231816o443d209bia96cf52c0b17e42b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hmph! Nothing but rain and clouds here this year ... :( http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/on-118_metric_e.html RD Ottawa Canada > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:16:43 -0700 > From: froggi60 at gmail.com > To: pelliott at innercite.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! > > Where are you? > > Weather Channel shows 91 now (6:15) in Medford. GP is close to that. > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Patrick Elliott wrote: > > > Speak for yourself,, I never saw above 70 today.... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WFO Herb > > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:00 PM > > To: kk7ss at verizon.net > > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! > > > > You guys could come to Southern Oregon...albeit in the 107 range here as > > well. > > > > Herb > > Grants Pass, Oregon > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as pelliott at innercite.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: 07/23/09 > > 06:02:00 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 07:27:04 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:27:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> Message-ID: <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.com> > Clarici Graphics has done a few of these some years back. > They showed me the shot of the Rolls parked next to the Ferrari but the > inside of the garage was spotless. You might want to suggest to your cousin that he put out a few samples and start advertising! The website for the guy in question has been completely overwhelmed since those articles came out. David L From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri Jul 24 09:43:28 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:43:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.co m> References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> Likewise, I think a graphic of the Spridget engine compartment would be neat. Instead of raising the hood, just display the graphic ON the hood - like a vinyl wrap. This would be something for car shows - not for traveling down the highway. Might be a neat way to display your pristine engine compartment without "spoiling" the lines of the car by raising the hood. Unfortunately(?), this would be one-off work rather than production runs like the garage door graphics. At 09:27 AM 7/24/2009, David Lieb wrote: > > Clarici Graphics has done a few of these some years back. > > They showed me the shot of the Rolls parked next to the Ferrari but the > > inside of the garage was spotless. > >You might want to suggest to your cousin that he put out a few samples >and start advertising! Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 09:46:36 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:46:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.com> <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <402188520907240846l57dcea31r1bb5f8d04d94679@mail.gmail.com> > Likewise, I think a graphic of the Spridget engine compartment would be > neat. Instead of raising the hood, just display the graphic ON the hood - > like a vinyl wrap. This would be something for car shows - not for traveling > down the highway. Might be a neat way to display your pristine engine > compartment without "spoiling" the lines of the car by raising the hood. > Unfortunately(?), this would be one-off work rather than production runs > like the garage door graphics. Better yet, have the graphic show a V12 in there with twin turbos and a dozen Webers... Isn't scaling wonderful?! David L From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 09:47:01 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:47:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.com> <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907240847n5ee2f666od6e5f7077489cae0@mail.gmail.com> Not sure how that would work on mine. The older midgets have a chrome trim strip down the bonnet... Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Tim Collins wrote: > Likewise, I think a graphic of the Spridget engine compartment would be > neat. Instead of raising the hood, just display the graphic ON the hood - > like a vinyl wrap. This would be something for car shows - not for traveling > down the highway. Might be a neat way to display your pristine engine > compartment without "spoiling" the lines of the car by raising the hood. > Unfortunately(?), this would be one-off work rather than production runs > like the garage door graphics. > > At 09:27 AM 7/24/2009, David Lieb wrote: > >> > Clarici Graphics has done a few of these some years back. >> > They showed me the shot of the Rolls parked next to the Ferrari but the >> > inside of the garage was spotless. >> >> You might want to suggest to your cousin that he put out a few samples >> and start advertising! >> > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/___________________________________ ____________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From jimndi at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 24 09:48:15 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:48:15 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tow Straps? Message-ID: <952B82FA85F1423E904A3A8C75108BF8@MAINCOMPUTER> I'm having a tough time getting my BE Shell on its side. I have to replace the Floor pans. Has anyone tried a canvas tow strap around the shell and using a conventional engine crane to flip it? As an alternative do you sinply roll it over on blankets? your thoughts please. JF From john.leier at leier.org Fri Jul 24 09:54:50 2009 From: john.leier at leier.org (John Leier) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:54:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for door check straps Message-ID: If anyone wants to sell (or donate!) a couple of black door check straps that will fit a 74 Midget, please contact me off list. Thanks! From ggroiss at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 10:08:53 2009 From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:08:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for door check straps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: John, If you have the metal ends the straps can easily be made from a piece of black or whatever other color, vinyl. Greg On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:54 AM, John Leier wrote: > If anyone wants to sell (or donate!) a couple of black door check straps that > will fit a 74 Midget, please contact me off list. Thanks! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ggroiss at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 24 10:20:24 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:20:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com>, <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.co m>, <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <4A697CD8.11431.7CD8E3@kk7ss.verizon.net> I'd spring for one..... On 24 Jul 2009 at 11:43, Tim Collins wrote: >> Likewise, I think a graphic of the Spridget engine compartment would >> be neat. Instead of raising the hood, just display the graphic ON the >> hood - like a vinyl wrap. This would be something for car shows - not >> for traveling down the highway. Might be a neat way to display your >> pristine engine compartment without "spoiling" the lines of the car by >> raising the hood. Unfortunately(?), this would be one-off work rather >> than production runs like the garage door graphics. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 24 12:21:38 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:21:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <402188520907240846l57dcea31r1bb5f8d04d94679@mail.gmail.com > References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.com> <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> <402188520907240846l57dcea31r1bb5f8d04d94679@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200907240921249.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> >Better yet, have the graphic show a V12 in there with twin turbos and >a dozen Webers... Isn't scaling wonderful?! >David L >_______________________________________________ Or a hamster in a wheel......... a really BIG hamster ed From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 10:22:24 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:22:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tow Straps? In-Reply-To: <952B82FA85F1423E904A3A8C75108BF8@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <952B82FA85F1423E904A3A8C75108BF8@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907240922u42817af0u68bbda1c3eb2fb34@mail.gmail.com> Roll it over on blankets. Get a buddy to help. You can also throw a rope over a garage ceilings joist and pull it over. The rope then serves to hold it from rolling back again. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Jim F. wrote: > I'm having a tough time getting my BE Shell on its side. I have to replace > the > Floor pans. Has anyone tried a canvas tow strap around the shell and using > a > conventional engine crane to flip it? As an alternative do you sinply roll > it > over on blankets? your thoughts please. > > JF From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 10:22:47 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:22:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907240847n5ee2f666od6e5f7077489cae0@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.com> <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> <43840a7e0907240847n5ee2f666od6e5f7077489cae0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907240922v64a88ff6hc08ff2b1dd9b7983@mail.gmail.com> The biggest problem with these is perspective. If you're not standing in the intended location they become so obvious as printed graphics as that some of them are almost laughable. For an example take a look again at the one showing the subway station. Looking at it straight on from your monitor it's rather convincing. Now step off to the side of your monitor and have another look; now it's some weird picture that just doesn't fit with what you expect to see. Another stunning example is the sidewalk chalk art of Julian Beever. You've probably all seen it - it's stunning and frequently makes the rounds in email. Have you seen any of those creations from the 'wrong" side? Really strange stuff then! An example is on this page at the bottom. http://www.rense.com/general67/street.htm From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 10:25:12 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:25:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for door check straps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0907240925j2c0e513cj3de140a1b9717cfc@mail.gmail.com> What Greg said... I took my old ones to a local upholstery shop and they made new ones. They are probably better than the Chinky ones you'd get from Mo$$ or VB. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Gregory Groiss wrote: > John, > > If you have the metal ends the straps can easily be made from a piece > of black or whatever other color, vinyl. > > Greg > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:54 AM, John Leier wrote: > > If anyone wants to sell (or donate!) a couple of black door check straps > that > > will fit a 74 Midget, please contact me off list. Thanks! > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as ggroiss at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 10:31:30 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:31:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <200907240921249.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.com> <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> <402188520907240846l57dcea31r1bb5f8d04d94679@mail.gmail.com> <200907240921249.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907240931r4794b090w8c2e815c97298600@mail.gmail.com> Or a sewing machine..... PPP On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Better yet, have the graphic show a V12 in there with twin turbos and >> a dozen Webers... Isn't scaling wonderful?! >> David L >> _______________________________________________ >> > Or a hamster in a wheel......... > > a really BIG hamster > > > ed _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 10:50:35 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:50:35 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for door check straps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8c1781040907240950n40b4d6e0ie049885497f5aba5@mail.gmail.com> The ones in my midget were made from an old leather belt. The looked fine and functioned flawlessly. -Trevor On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Gregory Groiss wrote: > John, > > If you have the metal ends the straps can easily be made from a piece > of black or whatever other color, vinyl. > > Greg > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:54 AM, John Leier wrote: >> If anyone wants to sell (or donate!) a couple of black door check straps > that >> will fit a 74 Midget, please contact me off list. Thanks! From 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET Fri Jul 24 12:11:47 2009 From: 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET (63ahbj7) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:11:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art In-Reply-To: <200907240921249.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <402188520907222038y7426a292x6251534c8b3f84f0@mail.gmail.com> <4A6927B7.8080005@comcast.net> <402188520907240627w4015dc47j1b41a1f8ceda2354@mail.gmail.com> <7ll0se$6od79t@email.mtu.edu> <402188520907240846l57dcea31r1bb5f8d04d94679@mail.gmail.com> <200907240921249.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4A69F963.70003@COMCAST.NET> <> That would be for YOUR Mini, PPP !!! From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 24 12:14:29 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:14:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Technical Dwell question... Message-ID: <4A699795.19723.E54B94@kk7ss.verizon.net> I need to cross- check my settings... Per the book, the Lucas dizzy has a dwell spec of 60* for the points style dizzies on the A series motors... The Mallory dual-point specifies 41* dwell for a dual-point dizzy on a 4-cylinder engine. Why the difference?? (I have a regular Lucas coil and a Sports Lucas coil available) Thanks... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From proefrock at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 12:18:47 2009 From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:18:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tachometer Needed Message-ID: <07AA8E48-A46F-496B-B214-3E04C2273CC3@comcast.net> Spridgeteers, After years of intermittent service, the tachometer in my '72 MG Midget has finally fully failed. I'm looking for a used one (known working, good condition) of the same vintage. The numbers on the face are RVC 1410/01. Please contact me off list. Thanks Jim Proefrock From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 12:26:22 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:26:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Technical Dwell question... In-Reply-To: <4A699795.19723.E54B94@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A699795.19723.E54B94@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <402188520907241126k5bd3a730ie0a058facca30068@mail.gmail.com> > Per the book, the Lucas dizzy has a dwell spec of 60* for the points > style dizzies on the A series motors... > The Mallory dual-point specifies 41* dwell for a dual-point dizzy on > a 4-cylinder engine. > Why the difference?? According to Barney Gaylord, the "MGA Guru", a four-cylinder has no need of additional dwell (or even as much as Lucas gave it) unless it is going to be hitting stratospheric RPMs. The Mallory dual-point distributor in a four-cylinder is more about a higher degree of precision in this application. IMHO, all the more reason to install the Pertronix module for it. http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig200.htm David L From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 24 12:27:54 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:27:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Technical Dwell question... References: <4A699795.19723.E54B94@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "spridgets" Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 1:14 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Technical Dwell question... I need to cross- check my settings... Per the book, the Lucas dizzy has a dwell spec of 60* for the points style dizzies on the A series motors... The Mallory dual-point specifies 41* dwell for a dual-point dizzy on a 4-cylinder engine. Why the difference?? (I have a regular Lucas coil and a Sports Lucas coil available) Thanks... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! _______________________________________________ Dave, read this: http://www.centuryperformance.com/setting-breaker-points-spg-90.html From 72spridget at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 13:16:20 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:16:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I think Billy needs a new Guitar Message-ID: <402188520907241216k3641cdaexc1f969ca7eacf25f@mail.gmail.com> http://tinyurl.com/mlo9j6 From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 13:26:04 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:26:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I think Billy needs a new Guitar In-Reply-To: <402188520907241216k3641cdaexc1f969ca7eacf25f@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907241216k3641cdaexc1f969ca7eacf25f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910907241226k6ab4d648qf6fe5d10d4257514@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, I lost mine. I left it in Wonder Woman's (ooh, Lynda Carter) plane and haven't seen it since. Visual aid: http://tinyurl.com/lh3khn From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Jul 24 13:57:50 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:57:50 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tow Straps? In-Reply-To: <952B82FA85F1423E904A3A8C75108BF8@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <952B82FA85F1423E904A3A8C75108BF8@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <87E25B402FB54750A468BC481191F67A@Home> Jim, My wife and I rolled my BE shell on a carpet rescued from someone's garbage. Between us, we weigh 230 pounds, so it should not be hard for any two people. The shell rests very comfortably on the sill. I put one leg clamped to the front spring area and jammed under a nearby floor to prevent further rolling, and tied two ropes to the ceiling to prevent returning to the bottom. The ropes are loose and I am not sure the leg is used much. Picture attached. Michael Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim F." To: Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Tow Straps? > I'm having a tough time getting my BE Shell on its side. I have to replace > the > Floor pans. Has anyone tried a canvas tow strap around the shell and using > a > conventional engine crane to flip it? As an alternative do you sinply roll > it > over on blankets? your thoughts please. > > JF > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_5034.JPG] From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 24 14:24:11 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:24:11 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: FWIW, While at Walmart today I checked out some of the oils on their shelf. The Rotella T was marked SM, Delvac and other diesel oils were marked "clean diesel" and also had SM ratings. Walmart house brand Supertech has an oil 15w40 marked "Universal oil" and the SJ certification. Only the universal oil was marked SJ all the other Supertech oils were marked SM. Wonder who makes it for them. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:56:22 -0400 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets > > Check carefully, Jim. Rotella's formulation was changed last year. > > Send 3 oz. to a lab for a virgin oil analysis and see what comes back > under the columns labeled Zn and Ph. > > In fact, there are internet sites (like BITOG) where folks have posted > the lab reports of various oils they have submitted. But notice the date > of the posting. Oil companies tweek their formulations without changing > the name or the label. Only believe your own analysis or one that is > fairly recent. And don't assume it'll still be the same product next > year. > > JohnD > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:28:45 -0500 > > From: Jim Johnson > > > What Brad and Glen said..... > > > > Rotella-T is what the antique bike guys use too. I still have a few > bottles > > of ZDDP additive to use up but when they are gone its Rotella-T for the > > Midget and the old bikes. > > > > Cheers!! > > Jim > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 24 14:34:01 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:34:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Technical Dwell question... In-Reply-To: References: <4A699795.19723.E54B94@kk7ss.verizon.net>, Message-ID: <4A69B849.16705.16509F5@kk7ss.verizon.net> Thanks to all who replied,both on- and off- list I had read the Century Performance write up many times (I've got it printed off and in my folder) but was still a bit unclear. I have just read Barney Gaylords write-up(s) and now have a better understanding... (also printed off and filed!) If I've understood it correctly; 40* is good enough for regular and autocross needs, but if I'm going to try to match a Kawasaki Z1 rev for rev and then I'd better get a Petronix.. Thanks again to all you Guru's ;^D - Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From jimndi at frontiernet.net Fri Jul 24 14:53:30 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:53:30 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Tow Straps? Message-ID: <5040D0FE0F144A9BBC96EC1E21D33859@MAINCOMPUTER> Thanks for the advice guys, There goes the weekend but it's going to rain anyhow. ----- Original Message ----- From: CosmicMag1380 To: Jim F. Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Tow Straps? On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Jim F. wrote: I'm having a tough time getting my BE Shell on its side. I have to replace the Floor pans. Has anyone tried a canvas tow strap around the shell and using a conventional engine crane to flip it? As an alternative do you sinply roll it over on blankets? your thoughts please. Get a stout piece of wood, say like a 4 x 4, that is about 8 feet in length. Slide it (from door to door) under the car just behind the A piller about a foot and use your engine hoist hooked to the beam to raise it, slowing tipping the car up. You may have to block it and adjust your crane a time or two Use a 2 x 4 to prop under the front frame rail as far back as you can when you adjust the crane. The rear fenderwell is also a good place to prop but you will need a longer 2 x 4. Once you get it high enough you can manually push it upright. I do this all the time when stripping parts cars... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.27/2258 - Release Date: 07/24/09 05:58:00 From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 14:58:08 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:58:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8c1781040907241358y578b98a9p92f5c76d5ba7d6cd@mail.gmail.com> OK, so we established that an older certification standard does not guarantee a certain ppm of ZDDP. we've also noted that several companies have marketed their oil for older classic vehicles with flat lifters. Does ANY manufacturer list the level of ZDDP in their "classic oil" on the bottle? The whole thing is starting to sound like a big crap shoot. It makes me want to quit thinking with my dip stick and blindly assume motor oil is motor oil. -Trevor Jessie On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 4:24 PM, brian S wrote: > FWIW, > > > While at Walmart today I checked out some of the oils on their shelf. > The Rotella T was marked SM, Delvac and other diesel oils were marked "clean > diesel" and > also had SM ratings. > Walmart house brand Supertech has an oil 15w40 marked "Universal oil" > and the SJ certification. > Only the universal oil was marked SJ all the other Supertech oils were marked > SM. > Wonder who makes it for them. > > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > > > >> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:56:22 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets >> >> Check carefully, Jim. Rotella's formulation was changed last year. >> >> Send 3 oz. to a lab for a virgin oil analysis and see what comes back >> under the columns labeled Zn and Ph. >> >> In fact, there are internet sites (like BITOG) where folks have posted >> the lab reports of various oils they have submitted. But notice the date >> of the posting. Oil companies tweek their formulations without changing >> the name or the label. Only believe your own analysis or one that is >> fairly recent. And don't assume it'll still be the same product next >> year. >> >> JohnD >> >> >> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:28:45 -0500 >> >> From: Jim Johnson >> >> >> What Brad and Glen said..... >> >> >> >> Rotella-T is what the antique bike guys use too. I still have a few >> bottles >> >> of ZDDP additive to use up but when they are gone its Rotella-T for the >> >> Midget and the old bikes. >> >> >> >> Cheers!! >> >> Jim >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. > Check it out. > http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL > _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as trevor.jessie at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jul 24 17:17:28 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:17:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <8c1781040907241358y578b98a9p92f5c76d5ba7d6cd@mail.gmail.co m> References: <8c1781040907241358y578b98a9p92f5c76d5ba7d6cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200907241417946.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> I have a few cases of Castrol GTX in cardboard..... NOS. SF/SE I even have a few of the filler/funnel things on cards. I EVEN have 1 can with a Castrol GTX top, and a Chevron cardboard "can". Trevor, I'm with you. I think they're either lying or hiding or ignorant. or a combination. But then I think Underwriter's Laboratory is a scam, too. Peter C ===== At 01:58 PM 7/24/2009, Trevor Jessie wrote: >OK, so we established that an older certification standard does not >guarantee a certain ppm of ZDDP. we've also noted that several >companies have marketed their oil for older classic vehicles with flat >lifters. Does ANY manufacturer list the level of ZDDP in their >"classic oil" on the bottle? The whole thing is starting to sound >like a big crap shoot. It makes me want to quit thinking with my dip >stick and blindly assume motor oil is motor oil. > >-Trevor Jessie From mikey at b2systems.com Fri Jul 24 15:26:50 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:26:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: <8c1781040907241358y578b98a9p92f5c76d5ba7d6cd@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c1781040907241358y578b98a9p92f5c76d5ba7d6cd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1248470810.3776.244.camel@WebBrowser> > lifters. Does ANY manufacturer list the level of ZDDP in their > "classic oil" on the bottle? The whole thing is starting to sound http://www.classiccarmotoroil.com/properties.html they list it as 1,600ppm of ZDDP and on another page they claim its even better than pre-SM oil, last item on their FAQ page: > CCMO is a much better oil for your engine than a Pre SM Oil. > It has a preservative, a balanced package of ZDDP and very > high quality viscosity modifiers which are not found in many > oils. IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR ENGINE...use CLASSIC CAR MOTOR > OIL. Pretty bold statements but I know people who use this oil and they seem sold on it. I would try it in my Spridget powered Singer's but they don't run yet :) And my Dino would spit out 15w oil faster than I could put it back in, my Dino has been hanging around British cars too much, it leaks even more than they do. I wish they made a 20-50, I would try in my Dino. Mike From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jul 24 15:39:20 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:39:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Tow Straps? In-Reply-To: <952B82FA85F1423E904A3A8C75108BF8@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: Five friends works better. From 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET Fri Jul 24 16:24:57 2009 From: 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET (63ahbj7) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:24:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hyper Lube In-Reply-To: <1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com> References: <678344.40414.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1566136719.20090720160203@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4A6A34B9.7090405@COMCAST.NET> <> That page IS missing Keith's THIRD 'installment' folks. I told Bill L. about it but whether he decided I was 'full of it', he didn't check it out, or what ever Bill still didn't tell you folks. In "Various Articles" on my site. And NO I am not "Back from Electronic He||" YET. HAD to but TWO new 'puters and Win XP Pro (I refuse Vista - any version) and will wait for 7 (and it's 1st "Service Pac" correction update)!!! S/B just before 1st BUT they ARE being built to MY spec (& under $400 ea) not something FORCED on the public. Tiger Direct = BEST outfit to deal with !!!! THANKS for ALL you concerns during this miserable & PITA time!! I VERY much appreciate it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 24 16:35:22 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:35:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets References: Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" > Billy, where did you get your figures from? The info regarding Penn oils came from the email they sent me earlier this week, which I copied and posted on this message board. The numbers regarding how many ZDDPppm were eliminated in which years came from several sites for which I also posted links on this message board in the last few days. I'm at a gig right now, but I guess I can post everything again when I get back to my home computer. ======================== OK, Billy, I think I see where the confusion comes from. This was in regard to your post stating that Brad Penn has only 800 ppm of ZDDP. Here is your post from Wednesday night: --------------------- > Thank you for your inquiry about Penn Grade 1 High performance Oil. First > we > do not license (API) these High performance Oils. We have elevated levels > of > Zinc that help protect the Cams of flat tappet and roller operations. Our > 10W-40 has the performance qualities of an API SJ product but again we do > not > license these products. I am also assuming that you have a manual > transmission? > > Sincerely, > Nicholas J. Dixon > BRAD PENN Lubricants -------------------------- Mr. Dixon from Brad Penn stated that their oil "has the performance qualities of an API SJ product". He also said they don't API certify their oil. The only reason they would need to restrict the ZDDP is if they wanted to certify it with API -- which they don't. The SJ classification (and all others) has performance characteristics other than ZDDP content. Like not turning into a pile of gooey gunk at high temps. That doesn't mean they need to restrict the ZDDP to SJ amounts. The amount of ZDDP that was reduced in which years only has relevance for the oils that are API certified. Anybody can produce an oil with as much ZDDP as they want in 2009 as long as they don't want to certify it with API. As was posted twice, the Brad Penn site has the ZDDP amounts clearly posted. http://www.bradpennracing.com/Zinc.html Dear God, can we end this thread soon? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 16:52:07 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:52:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0907241552je891069t42f0343aae9bbd73@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Dear God, can we end this thread soon? No. And that's *MR.* God to you. From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 17:06:19 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:06:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Number 550 Damaged In-Reply-To: References: <2ad6c6b10907231837y2bcdc57ey9b06e2ce858db84a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907241606n3bbc41a5id6d8825c01125518@mail.gmail.com> Mike, A friend of mine in Harrisonburg, VA just finished a round-trip to CA and back in his A-H. Beautifully done car! Like you, he spent many, many thousands in restoration. Went to his estate during the time he was putting it back together. He took me upstairs to where he had the fenders, hood and boot. We walked into the room...all white carpet and white leather furniture...and there on the furniture were his parts. What a wife!!! His trip included a 70 Vette, BMW M8 and a Maserati Quattroporte, and him of course. Just four guys doing something they wanted to do before it was "too late"...we all know that gut feeling. Now he's back to being President of the University...what a wind-down! Until his next outing.... BTW, he also owns a very nice Bugeye. Herb On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:54 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > Believe me, after all the money I have invested in it, I will get Frank's > nail gun and use it if he uses the forklift to move my BN2 around. > Mike > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:37 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> Tell him, PLEASE, no forklifts! >> >> Herb >> >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:58 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < >> rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: >> >>> I was told today by my friend that is restoring Bugeye number 550 for >>> auction that the bodyman/painter dropped the shell, rear end first, off a >>> forklift while moving it around his shop. Extensive damage, but not >>> un-repairable. besides the damage to the rear, the two door openings are >>> significantly closer together now at the top. Just made me cringe. This >>> is >>> the same guy doing the painting and bodywork to my BN2 right now. >>> Mike MacLean >>> 60 Sprite >>> 56 BN2 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 17:26:50 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:26:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I think Billy needs a new Guitar In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910907241226k6ab4d648qf6fe5d10d4257514@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907241216k3641cdaexc1f969ca7eacf25f@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910907241226k6ab4d648qf6fe5d10d4257514@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907241626w74d9cf79hab8f16b792c53452@mail.gmail.com> I'm still in love with that woman! Herb....Carter, no relation. But I could be if she wanted me to be! On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:26 PM, derf wrote: > Yeah, I lost mine. I left it in Wonder Woman's (ooh, Lynda Carter) > plane and haven't seen it since. > Visual aid: > http://tinyurl.com/lh3khn > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 24 17:53:30 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:53:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets References: <43840a7e0907241552je891069t42f0343aae9bbd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <63A0F369008F4B7BBAF7174B74E542DB@Larry> Sorry, Jim. After too many years of parochial school, I am in recovery. I have shamelessly forgotten all proper protocol. Am I going to hell? Is it true that the temperature is warmer there? Cuz I am tired of WI winters. Besides, all my friends will be there, too. Including a damn good share of this list. LAD Stay away, lest ye be struck down! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Dear God, can we end this thread soon? No. And that's *MR.* God to you. You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Jul 24 17:59:51 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:59:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Hmmm.... No LBC content! In-Reply-To: References: <4A685E58.23671.1350F9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2ad6c6b10907231759y29787848k7550864e664caee6@mail.gmail.com> <01ee01ca0bfa$87b4c0e0$971e42a0$@com> <2ad6c6b10907231816o443d209bia96cf52c0b17e42b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907241659y7c3ec429rdf67d9a8b49ed869@mail.gmail.com> Between 102-107 thru Tuesday here.Herb Grants Pass, Oregon On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 5:02 AM, wrote: > Hmph! Nothing but rain and clouds here this year ... :( > > > > http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/city/pages/on-118_metric_e.html > > > > RD > > Ottawa Canada From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jul 24 19:02:46 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:02:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes...but that email was in response to my direct inquiry as to whether or not their oil had sufficient ZDDP content to satisfy the API SF requirement of 1600ppm for my CRX transaxle. That was my question, and I read this answer as a "no". I did respond by asking him if he could give me a straight yes or no on the ZDDP content, and he told me to call him. I plan to on Monday. I get home tomorrow. As you probably know, SJ was the result of the first reduction of ZDDP from 1600ppm to 800ppm, and the first "automobile only" motor oil as opposed to car and motorcycle oil. >> Thank you for your inquiry about Penn Grade 1 High performance Oil. First >> we >> do not license (API) these High performance Oils. We have elevated levels >> of >> Zinc that help protect the Cams of flat tappet and roller operations. Our >> 10W-40 has the performance qualities of an API SJ product but again we do >> not >> license these products. I am also assuming that you have a manual >> transmission? >> >> Sincerely, >> Nicholas J. Dixon >> BRAD PENN Lubricants From millerls at ado13.com Fri Jul 24 19:14:51 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry Miller) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:14:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil fornon-spridgets In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0907241552je891069t42f0343aae9bbd73@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0907241552je891069t42f0343aae9bbd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The lifters in my twin cam are flat...but the cam works directly on them. Would this be considered a "flat tappet" engine? Larry From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 24 19:36:36 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:36:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] oil fornon-spridgets References: <43840a7e0907241552je891069t42f0343aae9bbd73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Miller" To: "Spridget" Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil fornon-spridgets The lifters in my twin cam are flat...but the cam works directly on them. Would this be considered a "flat tappet" engine? Larry _______________________________________________ Yes. From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jul 24 20:26:17 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 22:26:17 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] The "NEW" MG6 Message-ID: <4A6A6D49.2000606@comcast.net> Wanna see what a chinese MG looks like? http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsGallery.aspx?AR=239604&EL=-1&IM=234076 No slant eyed comments from me From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 24 20:33:50 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:33:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The "NEW" MG6 In-Reply-To: <4A6A6D49.2000606@comcast.net> References: <4A6A6D49.2000606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A6A0C9E.11979.2AE75C9@kk7ss.verizon.net> Looks like a Prius to me.... !! On 24 Jul 2009 at 22:26, Frank wrote: >> Wanna see what a chinese MG looks like? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 08:00:45 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:00:45 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Can a Sprite pull an Eriba Puck trailer? pics on site Message-ID: <205cef430907250700y3ff06f44ia8f45ac4a71c25f2@mail.gmail.com> List this sounds like a crazy question but will a Sprite pull an Eriba Puck (European Trailer) they say the pull weight is 600 lbs. If not will a 94 Saturn with auto trans pull one? I may be acquiring one soon similar to this one (not nearly as nice) but not sure if any of my autos will pull it, the VW bus will but I don't see the bus ready this summer. Below is an ad from a VW club who is raising money for servicemen/women and their families killed or injured in battle by raffling one off so you can get an idea. And this is a worthy cause if you are interested in buying a ticket I told the guy I would let my cooler car friends know about it. I would post this very worthy cause Raffle on the list but want to ask first. Fallen Heroes 2009 Raffle Car Eriba Puck http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=753426 From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 08:01:59 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:01:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The "NEW" MG6 In-Reply-To: <4A6A6D49.2000606@comcast.net> References: <4A6A6D49.2000606@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910907250701o7a2e1494v897853bdcbfc1747@mail.gmail.com> This one looks better: http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/240028/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 08:04:10 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:04:10 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Number 550 Damaged In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907241606n3bbc41a5id6d8825c01125518@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10907231837y2bcdc57ey9b06e2ce858db84a@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10907241606n3bbc41a5id6d8825c01125518@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430907250704y4238ba6avf4a3b16d3a3b43bb@mail.gmail.com> Does he has a blog of that trip?Lin On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:06 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Mike, > > A friend of mine in Harrisonburg, VA just finished a round-trip to CA and > back in his A-H. Beautifully done car! > > Like you, he spent many, many thousands in restoration. > > Went to his estate during the time he was putting it back together. He > took > me upstairs to where he had the fenders, hood and boot. We walked into the > room...all white carpet and white leather furniture...and there on the > furniture were his parts. What a wife!!! > > His trip included a 70 Vette, BMW M8 and a Maserati Quattroporte, and him > of course. > > Just four guys doing something they wanted to do before it was "too > late"...we all know that gut feeling. > > Now he's back to being President of the University...what a wind-down! > Until his next outing.... > > BTW, he also owns a very nice Bugeye. > > Herb > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:54 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > > > Believe me, after all the money I have invested in it, I will get Frank's > > nail gun and use it if he uses the forklift to move my BN2 around. > > Mike > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:37 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > > > >> Mike, > >> > >> Tell him, PLEASE, no forklifts! > >> > >> Herb > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:58 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < > >> rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I was told today by my friend that is restoring Bugeye number 550 for > >>> auction that the bodyman/painter dropped the shell, rear end first, off > a > >>> forklift while moving it around his shop. Extensive damage, but not > >>> un-repairable. besides the damage to the rear, the two door openings > are > >>> significantly closer together now at the top. Just made me cringe. > This > >>> is > >>> the same guy doing the painting and bodywork to my BN2 right now. > >>> Mike MacLean > >>> 60 Sprite > >>> 56 BN2 > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >>> > >>> You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > >>> > >>> http://www.team.net/archive > >>> > >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Jul 25 08:06:04 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:06:04 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Number 550 Damaged In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430907250706k144c237ap9a04312457e28bb3@mail.gmail.com> Wow #550, any picts of that Sprite? Hopefully before pics, after are OK too if I sit down to look. : (Lin On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:58 AM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > I was told today by my friend that is restoring Bugeye number 550 for > auction that the bodyman/painter dropped the shell, rear end first, off a > forklift while moving it around his shop. Extensive damage, but not > un-repairable. besides the damage to the rear, the two door openings are > significantly closer together now at the top. Just made me cringe. This > is > the same guy doing the painting and bodywork to my BN2 right now. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billmasq at hotmail.com Sat Jul 25 08:46:32 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:46:32 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Can a Sprite pull an Eriba Puck trailer? pics on site In-Reply-To: <205cef430907250700y3ff06f44ia8f45ac4a71c25f2@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430907250700y3ff06f44ia8f45ac4a71c25f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Your Sprite COULD pull the trailer but I wouldn't! The actual weight is no real problem but the windage would be. To tow it slowly for a couple of miles would be OK but not much more. It appears that the trailer is in Socal- maybe I'll buy a few tickets, a Dodge Caravan would pull it no-problem. The Saturn probably could but I would be really careful. Bill > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:00:45 -0400 > From: grunthaner at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Can a Sprite pull an Eriba Puck trailer? pics on site > > List this sounds like a crazy question but will a Sprite pull an Eriba Puck > (European Trailer) they say the pull weight is 600 lbs. If not will a 94 > Saturn with auto trans pull one? > I may be acquiring one soon similar to this one (not nearly as nice) but not > sure if any of my autos will pull it, the VW bus will but I don't see the > bus ready this summer. Below is an ad from a VW club who is raising money > for servicemen/women and their families killed or injured in battle by > raffling one off so you can get an idea. And this is a worthy cause if you > are interested in buying a ticket I told the guy I would let my cooler car > friends know about it. > > I would post this very worthy cause Raffle on the list but want to ask > first. > > Fallen Heroes 2009 Raffle Car Eriba Puck > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=753426 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your photos. See how. http://windowslive.com/Online/SkyDrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_SD_photos_072009 From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Jul 25 09:13:17 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:13:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Can a Sprite pull an Eriba Puck trailer? pics on site In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430907250700y3ff06f44ia8f45ac4a71c25f2@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: <4A6ABE9D.12529.442923@kk7ss.verizon.net> In 1954/1955 my Dad had a 100E Ford anglia (1172cc) and, with my Mum and her dog, toured Europe towing a similar travel trailer... A common sight in those days - you would end up in 2nd or 3rd going up hills or mountains but, after all, that's why you have 4 gears in the box ;-)) On 25 Jul 2009 at 7:46, Bill Masquelier wrote: >> Your Sprite COULD pull the trailer but I wouldn't! The actual weight >> is no real problem but the windage would be. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Jul 25 09:14:21 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:14:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Number 550 Damaged In-Reply-To: <205cef430907250704y4238ba6avf4a3b16d3a3b43bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10907231837y2bcdc57ey9b06e2ce858db84a@mail.gmail.com><2ad6c6b10907241606n3bbc41a5id6d8825c01125518@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430907250704y4238ba6avf4a3b16d3a3b43bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If you are into blogs about long distance trips in old cars, I bumped into this one about a Big Healey that came to Ottawa ON Canada in a 3500 mile round trip. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4466293 -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grunthaner Does he has a blog of that trip?Lin On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:06 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Mike, > > A friend of mine in Harrisonburg, VA just finished a round-trip to CA and > back in his A-H. Beautifully done car! > > Like you, he spent many, many thousands in restoration. > > Went to his estate during the time he was putting it back together. He > took > me upstairs to where he had the fenders, hood and boot. We walked into the > room...all white carpet and white leather furniture...and there on the > furniture were his parts. What a wife!!! > > His trip included a 70 Vette, BMW M8 and a Maserati Quattroporte, and him > of course. > > Just four guys doing something they wanted to do before it was "too > late"...we all know that gut feeling. > > Now he's back to being President of the University...what a wind-down! > Until his next outing.... > > BTW, he also owns a very nice Bugeye. > > Herb > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:54 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > > > Believe me, after all the money I have invested in it, I will get Frank's > > nail gun and use it if he uses the forklift to move my BN2 around. > > Mike > > > > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:37 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > > > >> Mike, > >> > >> Tell him, PLEASE, no forklifts! > >> > >> Herb > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:58 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < > >> rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I was told today by my friend that is restoring Bugeye number 550 for > >>> auction that the bodyman/painter dropped the shell, rear end first, off > a > >>> forklift while moving it around his shop. Extensive damage, but not > >>> un-repairable. besides the damage to the rear, the two door openings > are > >>> significantly closer together now at the top. Just made me cringe. > This > >>> is > >>> the same guy doing the painting and bodywork to my BN2 right now. > >>> Mike MacLean > >>> 60 Sprite > >>> 56 BN2 From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Jul 25 14:23:33 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:23:33 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? Message-ID: What are they like at burnout's? In a message dated 21/07/2009 21:51:41 GMT Daylight Time, corvallis at peoplepc.com writes: Tires made from trees -- better, cheaper, more fuel efficient From jimndi at frontiernet.net Sat Jul 25 14:59:07 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:59:07 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Diff. Message-ID: <7271F610F5A74DAFAE6930557DDB2C4D@MAINCOMPUTER> OK, I'm trying to get the diff out of my BE. The check straps and shocks are disconnected, All 12 bolts are out of the bottom of the spring plates and I have one of Franks BFH's in my garage. Whats next. The body is on stands and the diff is on a floor jack. Shouldn't it drop right out? or am I missing something?? From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jul 25 15:11:09 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:11:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Diff. In-Reply-To: <7271F610F5A74DAFAE6930557DDB2C4D@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <7271F610F5A74DAFAE6930557DDB2C4D@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <4A6B74ED.2090606@comcast.net> Jim F. wrote: > OK, I'm trying to get the diff out of my BE. The check straps and shocks are > disconnected, All 12 bolts are out of the bottom of the spring plates 12 bolts? Just undo the shock links and the single bolt on each leaf spring to axle, remove the straps, drive shaft and brake hose and it should slide out from a wheel well. I may have forgot something but you do not have to remove the springs from the car. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From cbaustin at verizon.net Sat Jul 25 17:22:03 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:22:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Diff. References: <7271F610F5A74DAFAE6930557DDB2C4D@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <45CD686C51B0490593CEC2BFE306CA89@universal1> Um, let the jack down?? CB From jimndi at frontiernet.net Sat Jul 25 18:07:58 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:07:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE DIFF Message-ID: <4AC248525F674F52B7AEFC34E32F61CF@MAINCOMPUTER> Thanks guys, After taking Dr. Frank's sage advice The Diff dropped right out. I sure wanted to try my new BFH though. Jim 60 Bugeye From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jul 25 19:47:46 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:47:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Diff. In-Reply-To: <4A6B74ED.2090606@comcast.net> Message-ID: You're pulling the whole axle housing, or just the differential?? From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 04:00:51 2009 From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:00:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake conversion In-Reply-To: <4AC248525F674F52B7AEFC34E32F61CF@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <12303.74068.qm@web45710.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi group, I'm converting to disc brakes on my '61 BE. Two questions: 1. Can I get by using the old brake master cylinder? 2. Are the lower "A" frames on the '61 the same as those on the '66 donor car? Thanks in advance! Jim, Homer Alaska '61 AN5L26749 '66 HAN8L52348 (donor) '67 HAN8L63995 A penny saved is a government oversite! --- On Sun, 7/26/09, Jim F. wrote: From: Jim F. Subject: [Spridgets] BE DIFF To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 12:07 AM Thanks guys, After taking Dr. Frank's sage advice The Diff dropped right out. I sure wanted to try my new BFH though. Jim 60 Bugeye You are subscribed as oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kidjoevid at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 05:38:30 2009 From: kidjoevid at yahoo.com (Joe Lansing) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] 73 MGBGT Message-ID: <377581.35679.qm@web33208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've got to cull the herd. I have a 73 MGB GT. Licensed and driving. Rust in the usual spots. 75 engine. smokes. Asking 1600. I'm half way between Denver and Salt Lake City. If you're interested send me an email at kidvid6 at bresnan.net Joe From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 26 07:00:43 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:00:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake conversion In-Reply-To: <12303.74068.qm@web45710.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <12303.74068.qm@web45710.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A6C537B.4080807@comcast.net> James Lempe wrote: > Hi group, > > I'm converting to disc brakes on my '61 BE. Two questions: > > 1. Can I get by using the old brake master cylinder? > > 2. Are the lower "A" frames on the '61 the same as those on the '66 donor > car? > Yes you can get by but a resleeve or 66 brake master cylinder would be better (3/4" bore for disc, 7/8 for drum) A frames are the same but the king pins are different from drum to disc. Use the 66 A frames complete with king pins. Get new brake hoses too, don't even think about using the ones from the 66 unless they are under 10 years old. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 26 07:22:49 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:22:49 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? In-Reply-To: <7AF573BAFC2F41FE8450EBD35A772325@spider> References: <7AF573BAFC2F41FE8450EBD35A772325@spider> Message-ID: Yokahama is making tires using Orange peel oil instead of petoleum. Engineers say the E-Spec is 80% petroleum free, with the remaining 20% derived from natural rubber resources. While its origination is fairly impressive, it also boasts a 20% reduction in rolling resistance compared to equally sized tires. No word yet if it smells like oranges if you do a burnout..... http://wot.motortrend.com/6529573/green/orange-is-the-new-green-yokahama-db-s uper-e-spec-eco-friendly-tire/index.html or http://tinyurl.com/mwuh4o Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:50:58 -0700 > Subject: [Spridgets] would you drive on wood tires? > > Tires made from trees -- better, cheaper, more fuel efficient > > > CORVALLIS, Ore. - Automobile owners around the world may some day soon be > driving on tires that are partly made out of trees - which could cost less, > perform better and save on fuel and energy. > > Wood science researchers at Oregon State University have made some > surprising findings about the potential of microcrystalline cellulose - a > product that can be made easily from almost any type of plant fibers - to > partially replace silica as a reinforcing filler in the manufacture of > rubber tires. > > A new study suggests that this approach might decrease the energy required > to produce the tire, reduce costs, and better resist heat buildup. Early > tests indicate that such products would have comparable traction on cold or > wet pavement, be just as strong, and provide even higher fuel efficiency > than traditional tires in hot weather. > > >From http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-07/osu-tmf072109.php > _______________________________________________ > _________________________________________________________________ Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TXT_ML OGEN_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 26 07:32:19 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:32:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc Brake conversion In-Reply-To: <4A6C537B.4080807@comcast.net> References: <12303.74068.qm@web45710.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <4A6C537B.4080807@comcast.net> Message-ID: Before I forget, there's a guy here in Ottawa with a couple of bugeyes and a MKII Sprite ( or is it a MKI Midget? ) that is looking for the parts to convert to front disk brakes. I don't think he does email. I can get his business phone number for anyone that wants to call him. I don't think he does short conversations. Or, if you email me a list of what you've got and the condition and a price, I can print it out and give it to him. NFI -----Original Message----- From: Frank James Lempe wrote: > Hi group, > > I'm converting to disc brakes on my '61 BE. Two questions: > > 1. Can I get by using the old brake master cylinder? > > 2. Are the lower "A" frames on the '61 the same as those on the '66 donor > car? > Yes you can get by but a resleeve or 66 brake master cylinder would be better (3/4" bore for disc, 7/8 for drum) A frames are the same but the king pins are different from drum to disc. Use the 66 A frames complete with king pins. Get new brake hoses too, don't even think about using the ones from the 66 unless they are under 10 years old. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sun Jul 26 07:37:51 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:37:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Just the right Vehicle for Winter Message-ID: Here's one for you snowbound types. Better get to work on the conversion before the snow starts to fly!!! http://www.flixxy.com/snow-vehicle-concept.htm Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 08:11:52 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft Message-ID: <961827.54842.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Am on vacation, and picked up a copy of the classic book "The Red Car", read in a day on the beach. Everyone on this list should read this classic of a 16 year old kid in 1954 fixing a wrecked 1948 MG TC to go racing. I was born way too late to have even known this book existed until recently, but it's dead-center on about how most of us felt the first time we saw these cars. Last, but not least controversially, I recently posted a camshaft 4 sale. It was bought buy a lister who mic'd it and found it within the tolerances of a new one. It saw duty in a mild race motor from 2003 to 2005 with Redline oil. That's Redline Oil - the synthetic stuff used by most of the vintage racers. Ron From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 08:40:42 2009 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:40:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug Message-ID: I was driving my sprite the other day on a nice quiet country road, the weather was prefect, I was thinking to myself the car is running great. Then a loud bang from under the hood, and some steam. I pulled over, popped the hood, and saw #2 frost plug was gone. A nice older couple pulled over and drove my wife and I to the nearest town, and a tow truck. A 100 mile tow equals $420.00, a few months before my wife cancelled the extended coverage with C.A.A., we now have the extended coverage back. I had removed all of the frost plugs a couple of years ago, the block was boiled, and the engine was freshened up. I used some automotive silicone on the new frost plugs. My question, should I install the new frost plug dry, or try the silicone again? Thanks for any info Greg Higgins 63 sprite From wmseverin at charter.net Sun Jul 26 08:51:54 2009 From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:51:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft In-Reply-To: <961827.54842.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <961827.54842.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001701ca0e00$9dcbabc0$d9630340$@net> I recently found a book on the giveaway pile at the local library by author Henry Gregor Felsen, and it brought back memories of all his car related novels I read as a kid. > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 9:12 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft > > Am on vacation, and picked up a copy of the classic book "The Red Car", > read in a day on the beach. Everyone on this list should read this > classic of a 16 year old kid in 1954 fixing a wrecked 1948 MG TC to go > racing. I was born way too late to have even known this book existed > until recently, but it's dead-center on about how most of us felt the > first time we saw these cars. > > Last, but not least controversially, I recently posted a camshaft 4 > sale. It was bought buy a lister who mic'd it and found it within the > tolerances of a new one. It saw duty in a mild race motor from 2003 to > 2005 with Redline oil. That's Redline Oil - the synthetic stuff used by > most of the vintage racers. > > Ron From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 09:05:07 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:05:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft In-Reply-To: <961827.54842.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <961827.54842.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <402188520907260805h4de5c1dbj28b44d5540848953@mail.gmail.com> > Am on vacation, and picked up a copy of the classic book "The Red Car", read in a day on the beach. Everyone on this list should read this classic of a 16 year old kid in 1954 fixing a wrecked 1948 MG TC to go racing. I was born way too late to have even known this book existed until recently, but it's dead-center on about how most of us felt the first time we saw these cars. I have a copy of that book myself and agree wholeheartedly. Well worth the price. David L From wmseverin at charter.net Sun Jul 26 09:12:40 2009 From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:12:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001801ca0e03$847c7480$8d755d80$@net> By the expandable rubber style, has a nut on the outside to tighten the plug. I use them on my race engines. > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Higgins > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 9:41 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug > > I was driving my sprite the other day on a nice quiet country road, the > weather was prefect, I was thinking to myself the car is running great. > Then a > loud bang from under the hood, and some steam. I pulled over, popped > the hood, > and saw #2 frost plug was gone. A nice older couple pulled over and > drove my > wife and I to the nearest town, and a tow truck. > > A 100 mile tow equals $420.00, a few months before my wife cancelled > the > extended coverage with C.A.A., we now have the extended coverage back. > > I had removed all of the frost plugs a couple of years ago, the block > was > boiled, and the engine was freshened up. I used some automotive > silicone on > the new frost plugs. My question, should I install the new frost plug > dry, or > try the silicone again? > Thanks for any info > > Greg Higgins > 63 sprite > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wsthompson at thicko.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 26 09:38:12 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:38:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24D8BEAC401F4B088FC9BA1B490B5CE9@spider> There is a type of freeze plug that is a piece of rubber between two large (fender) washers. There is a bolt sticking thru the outside that is tightened down. This squishes the rubber out to hold the freeze plug in its hole. ...bill in oregon ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Higgins Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:41 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug I was driving my sprite the other day on a nice quiet country road, the weather was prefect, I was thinking to myself the car is running great. Then a loud bang from under the hood, and some steam. I pulled over, popped the hood, and saw #2 frost plug was gone. A nice older couple pulled over and drove my wife and I to the nearest town, and a tow truck. A 100 mile tow equals $420.00, a few months before my wife cancelled the extended coverage with C.A.A., we now have the extended coverage back. I had removed all of the frost plugs a couple of years ago, the block was boiled, and the engine was freshened up. I used some automotive silicone on the new frost plugs. My question, should I install the new frost plug dry, or try the silicone again? Thanks for any info Greg Higgins 63 sprite From peter at nosimport.com Sun Jul 26 12:27:33 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:27:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200907260927687.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> NO SILICONE! At most use a hardening sealant like Permatex 1 Peter C == At 07:40 AM 7/26/2009, Greg Higgins wrote: >I had removed all of the frost plugs a couple of years ago, the block was >boiled, and the engine was freshened up. I used some automotive silicone on >the new frost plugs. My question, should I install the new frost plug dry, or >try the silicone again? >Thanks for any info > >Greg Higgins >63 sprite From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 11:21:06 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft Message-ID: <324735.66732.qm@web51409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Bought that book from the Scholastic Book Club in junior high school in the early '60s. Probably made more of an impression on me than "Catcher in the Rye", "Moby Dick" and all the others assigned to me in school. Once I got my first car (a red Bugeye, natch) I identified even more strongly with Hap.I know Peter Egan was a big Red Car fan and Burt Levy's stuff seems to e influenced by the book as well. Amazingly, it's been re-issued and it's available from Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/ls6ufy If you love sports cars and have never read this book, you owe it to yourself to check it out. --- On Sun, 7/26/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft To: "Ron Soave" , "Spridgets" Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 11:05 AM > Am on vacation, and picked up a copy of the classic book "The Red Car", read in a day on the beach. Everyone on this list should read this classic of a 16 year old kid in 1954 fixing a wrecked 1948 MG TC to go racing. I was born way too late to have even known this book existed until recently, but it's dead-center on about how most of us felt the first time we saw these cars. I have a copy of that book myself and agree wholeheartedly. Well worth the price. David L You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jul 26 11:29:53 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:29:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE spring box In-Reply-To: <402188520907260805h4de5c1dbj28b44d5540848953@mail.gmail.com> References: <961827.54842.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <402188520907260805h4de5c1dbj28b44d5540848953@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10FBABB470FD4A27BEB7A87A2EC67D76@Home> Could someone please measure the height of the hole in a BE spring hanger box? My rolling shell had 9.5" ground clearance, for some unknown reason, and I am beginning to get suspicious that the PO welded in a new bottom to the spring box rather than replacing the whole thing. And he may have gotten it lower or crooked. The one I have freed appears to stand quite a bit proud of the rest of the flanges holding the bottom pan. Of course, a lot of the flanges are rotted out and it could be that my repairs are a little off. I am starting to think I should replace the whole thing while it is open, which I am really reluctant to tackle. Photos at http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh6/mdrowe_photo/BE%20left%20pan/ Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 26 11:31:55 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:31:55 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft In-Reply-To: <961827.54842.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The Red Car was required reading for my high school literature class, but I'm not sure whether high schools actually require reading anymore. I have a fresh copy for my son when he's old enough. BZ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:21:59 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:21:59 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft Message-ID: Is it as good as Four Wheel Drift? Four Wheel Drift is the story of a guy who builds his own race car using a modified engine (2 flat twins making a flat 4 - clearly decades ahead of it's time and Radical sports cars). Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 26/07/2009 18:40:55 GMT Daylight Time, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: Bought that book from the Scholastic Book Club in junior high school in the early '60s. Probably made more of an impression on me than "Catcher in the Rye", "Moby Dick" and all the others assigned to me in school. Once I got my first car (a red Bugeye, natch) I identified even more strongly with Hap.I know Peter Egan was a big Red Car fan and Burt Levy's stuff seems to e influenced by the book as well. Amazingly, it's been re-issued and it's available from Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/ls6ufy If you love sports cars and have never read this book, you owe it to yourself to check it out. --- On Sun, 7/26/09, David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: From: David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft To: "Ron Soave" , "Spridgets" Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 11:05 AM > Am on vacation, and picked up a copy of the classic book "The Red Car", read in a day on the beach. Everyone on this list should read this classic of a 16 year old kid in 1954 fixing a wrecked 1948 MG TC to go racing. I was born way too late to have even known this book existed until recently, but it's dead-center on about how most of us felt the first time we saw these cars. I have a copy of that book myself and agree wholeheartedly. Well worth the price. David L From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:26:30 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:26:30 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug Message-ID: So 'fess up? You loosened the plug without telling the wife to prove you were right and needed the extended coverage?? What I've seen UK racers do is drill and tap a small hole to screw in an Alen cap scew that overlaps onto the core plug (freeze plug) so it can't pop out. However, I've never seen one pop out before. I can't see the point of the silicone as it wouldn't prevent it popping out and might in fact help it pop out by lubricating the orifice (!). I'd fit dry and make sure it's really fully home. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 26/07/2009 16:09:37 GMT Daylight Time, g.h.higgins at gmail.com writes: A 100 mile tow equals $420.00, a few months before my wife cancelled the extended coverage with C.A.A., we now have the extended coverage back. I had removed all of the frost plugs a couple of years ago, the block was boiled, and the engine was freshened up. I used some automotive silicone on the new frost plugs. My question, should I install the new frost plug dry, or try the silicone again? Thanks for any info From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:27:19 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:27:19 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug Message-ID: Do you have a URL for someone that sells them? Don't think I've seen them over here? Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 26/07/2009 16:33:24 GMT Daylight Time, wmseverin at charter.net writes: By the expandable rubber style, has a nut on the outside to tighten the plug. I use them on my race engines. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:28:45 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:28:45 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] brit cars for sale Message-ID: Is the car with a Rolls Royce engine? Same as crashes early on in the film 'Robbery'? In a message dated 22/07/2009 19:37:12 GMT Daylight Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: 1967 Vandenplas Princess 4 litre R quirky but we like it for sale at 4000.00 From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 26 14:28:49 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:28:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wasn't the Porsche/VW a flat 4? ...bill in oregon ===================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:22 PM To: healeyrick at yahoo.com; soavero at yahoo.com; spridgets at autox.team.net; 72spridget at gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft Is it as good as Four Wheel Drift? Four Wheel Drift is the story of a guy who builds his own race car using a modified engine (2 flat twins making a flat 4 - clearly decades ahead of it's time and Radical sports cars). Weslake-Monza 1330 From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:33:48 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:33:48 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye? Message-ID: Top speed in under 5 seconds but how long does it take to slow down from 100mph? I've seen this car and I shook my head. What I'd really like to know is how much it weighs? Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 21/05/2009 04:23:29 GMT Daylight Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: Ahh, yes, one tastefully done, and one that just makes you shake your head. And then there's the one that is very tastefully executed, but still makes you shake your head: http://www.coupers-cars.com/sprite_restoration.htm From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:34:57 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:34:57 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! Message-ID: When I'm driving my Sprite I regularly find women bare their breasts at the car - possibly this just happens in the UK! Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/07/2009 16:23:27 GMT Daylight Time, bugeye15 at hotmail.com writes: The car definitely has it. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:36:25 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:36:25 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Compatibility Message-ID: I'll bet their is only one you can still buy? The 1275 bearing sold in the UK is actually the 1098 bearing..... Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 22/07/2009 20:35:01 GMT Daylight Time, fredpixley at sympatico.ca writes: I noticed three different part numbers for release bearings for 948, 1098, and 1275. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:40:01 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:40:01 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Breathing Cont'd. Message-ID: There should be a hard point on the Titan timing cover that they drill and tap for a vent. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 21/07/2009 22:20:59 GMT Daylight Time, grbyrns at ucdavis.edu writes: John, I've got a Titan timing belt w/unvented cover, so I draw from a vent drilled into the fuel pump spot on the block. I also draw from the timing cover and tee the hoses together just before the "flying saucer" gulp valve. The valve goes into the intake between the throttle body and the turbo. When all is good, the garage floor stays DRY. Glen Byrns From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:42:15 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:42:15 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] front end rebuild Message-ID: More likely the problem is with the wheels than the bar. In a message dated 19/07/2009 21:21:57 GMT Daylight Time, tr3.4.me at gmail.com writes: Also the front sway bar interferes with the rims when turning very sharply so I'm guessing its an incorrect aftermarket bar and will probably look for a suitable replacement. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:45:44 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:45:44 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. Message-ID: That is correct. Moisture will always find it's way into a braking system. With non-silicone fluid it dilutes the fluid. With silicone fluid it remains free (I guess it's imiscible with the fluid). Under certain braking conditions the moisture can turn to steam. I haven't heard the moisture sinks to the low places - it certainly either rises or sinks and settles somewhere. So, Silicone or not, it's still necessary for brake fluid changes - how often for a silicone I don't know. I do an annual fluid change on my Sprite irrespective of the mileage in the year. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 19/07/2009 13:37:27 GMT Daylight Time, corvallis at peoplepc.com writes: Well put. And I still believe that the silicon brake fluids are not hydroscopic. Thus moisture that will get in there, sinks to the low places and rusts whatever it is in contact with; sooner than with DOT 3 fluid. ...bill in oregon From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:46:35 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:46:35 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Racer type question.. Message-ID: I saw this on an e-type when I was a kid. In a message dated 19/07/2009 14:32:05 GMT Daylight Time, oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes: XKE guys are dead set against silicone because of the vacuum assist in the system, they frequently diagnose power booster failure by the smoke exiting the exhaust From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:49:51 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:49:51 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Grandson's 1st Brit vehicle Message-ID: Is it a Silver Cross? In a message dated 19/07/2009 04:47:37 GMT Daylight Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: A 1972 genuine English pram (aka baby buggy) From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:52:26 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:52:26 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Garage Art Message-ID: A wheel like this? In a message dated 24/07/2009 19:16:06 GMT Daylight Time, 63AHBJ7 at COMCAST.NET writes: <> That would be for YOUR Mini, PPP !!! [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of carisbrookecastle025.jpg] From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 14:55:42 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:55:42 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Message-ID: Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person with more means is a Lamborghini owner. In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: The difference between a Spridget owner and a Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 26 15:10:24 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:10:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: What are we saying here ... that Lamborghini and Ferrari owners are more mean than us? ;) -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: July 26, 2009 4:56 PM To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net; mark at nashvilletn.org; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person with more means is a Lamborghini owner. In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: The difference between a Spridget owner and a Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 26 15:19:14 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:19:14 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ... and I thought that only happened to me! -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com When I'm driving my Sprite I regularly find women bare their breasts at the car - possibly this just happens in the UK! Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/07/2009 16:23:27 GMT Daylight Time, bugeye15 at hotmail.com writes: The car definitely has it. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 15:24:51 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:24:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] front end rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907261424q2d976ea4w831721715f7cdb92@mail.gmail.com> Stock rims so I have to believe its the bar at fault. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:42 PM, wrote: > More likely the problem is with the wheels than the bar. > > In a message dated 19/07/2009 21:21:57 GMT Daylight Time, tr3.4.me at gmail.com > writes: > > Also the front sway bar interferes with the rims when turning very > sharply so I'm guessing its an incorrect aftermarket bar and will > probably look for a suitable replacement. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 26 15:28:48 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:28:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: Message-ID: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC Cobras, 3 Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd have one. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; mark at nashvilletn.org ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person with more means is a Lamborghini owner. In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: The difference between a Spridget owner and a Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. From wmseverin at charter.net Sun Jul 26 15:34:27 2009 From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:34:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001a01ca0e38$da93d7c0$8fbb8740$@net> https://www.dormanproducts.com From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:27 PM To: wmseverin at charter.net; higgs6 at cogeco.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] blown frost plug Do you have a URL for someone that sells them? Don't think I've seen them over here? Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 26/07/2009 16:33:24 GMT Daylight Time, wmseverin at charter.net writes: By the expandable rubber style, has a nut on the outside to tighten the plug. I use them on my race engines. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 26 15:40:48 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:40:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: blown frost plug Message-ID: May also called Rubber Seal Expansion Plugs. Double check me on this. .bill in oregon http://www.ersco-mi.com/expansion.html =========================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 1:27 PM To: wmseverin at charter.net; higgs6 at cogeco.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] blown frost plug Do you have a URL for someone that sells them? Don't think I've seen them over here? Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 26/07/2009 16:33:24 GMT Daylight Time, wmseverin at charter.net writes: By the expandable rubber style, has a nut on the outside to tighten the plug. I use them on my race engines. _______________________________________________ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jul 26 15:57:25 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:57:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug In-Reply-To: <001a01ca0e38$da93d7c0$8fbb8740$@net> References: <001a01ca0e38$da93d7c0$8fbb8740$@net> Message-ID: <9590501727794FEAAA0E5CA98CA5D92A@spider> This https://www.dormanproducts.com/cgi-bin/vm91corp30r/cat_search1.w?sid=anxGirc haNXlkeaj010962844306032225 &clt=hwrap1&vsrch_str=&vsrch_cat=&vsrch_brand=all&vsrch_range=&st_amount=&en d_amount=&from_page=search&category_no=1470&sku=&category_list=1470&vfrom=&v time=64309&item_no= leads to this https://www.dormanproducts.com/cgi-bin/vm91corp30r/cat_search1.w?sid=anxGirc haNXlkeaj010962844306032225 &clt=hwrap1&vsrch_str=&vsrch_cat=Expansion%20Plugs%20-%20Quick-Seal%AE%20Rub ber&vsrch_brand=all&vsrch_range=&st_amount=&end_amount=&from_page=search&cat egory_no=484&sku=&category_list=1470%3A484&vfrom=&vtime=64336&item_no= or use http://tinyurl.com/lmdqlu ====================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:34 PM To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com; higgs6 at cogeco.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] blown frost plug https://www.dormanproducts.com From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Jul 26 15:59:03 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:59:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> References: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> Message-ID: <4A6CD1A7.6030005@frontiernet.net> You left out the important part. Is he single? Anon Larry Daniels wrote: > Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC Cobras, 3 > Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR > McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd > have one. > > LAD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; mark at nashvilletn.org ; spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > > Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person with > more means is a Lamborghini owner. > > In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: > The difference between a Spridget owner and a > Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 16:02:45 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:02:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> References: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907261502l5f9a9a38j2bdee3de1a17ae72@mail.gmail.com> I'm so well heeled that I've started a roller skate collection.... Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC > Cobras, 3 > Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR > McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd > have one. > > LAD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; mark at nashvilletn.org ; > spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > > Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person > with > more means is a Lamborghini owner. > > In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: > The difference between a Spridget owner and a > Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 26 16:05:51 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:05:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> <43840a7e0907261502l5f9a9a38j2bdee3de1a17ae72@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry> Well, Jim, I don't have any skates, but I might be able to come up with a key for you. Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Johnson To: Larry Daniels Cc: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner I'm so well heeled that I've started a roller skate collection.... Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC Cobras, 3 Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd have one. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; mark at nashvilletn.org ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person with more means is a Lamborghini owner. In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: The difference between a Spridget owner and a Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 16:07:22 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:07:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0907261507o175ffb25lbfe7bf65e4db9c08@mail.gmail.com> Only experience I've had with freeze plugs was with the 1250 engine in my old TC. I found it one frosty morning sticking out of the side of the block on a 1/2 inch plug of ice. The plug itself was bowl shaped so that if you put it back in with the dome shape out, it was a VERY tight fit. Place a drift against it and smite it with a hammer and the dome shape dimpled inward spreading the plug to fit tightly in the block again with no leaks. No need for any kind of sealant. Dunno if this applies to the A series or not. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 3:26 PM, wrote: > So 'fess up? You loosened the plug without telling the wife to prove you > were right and needed the extended coverage?? > > What I've seen UK racers do is drill and tap a small hole to screw in an > Alen cap scew that overlaps onto the core plug (freeze plug) so it can't > pop > out. However, I've never seen one pop out before. > > I can't see the point of the silicone as it wouldn't prevent it popping out > and might in fact help it pop out by lubricating the orifice (!). I'd fit > dry and make sure it's really fully home. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 26/07/2009 16:09:37 GMT Daylight Time, > g.h.higgins at gmail.com writes: > > A 100 mile tow equals $420.00, a few months before my wife cancelled the > extended coverage with C.A.A., we now have the extended coverage back. > > I had removed all of the frost plugs a couple of years ago, the block was > boiled, and the engine was freshened up. I used some automotive silicone > on > the new frost plugs. My question, should I install the new frost plug dry, > or > try the silicone again? > Thanks for any info > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 26 16:08:29 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:08:29 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <4A6CD1A7.6030005@frontiernet.net> References: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> <4A6CD1A7.6030005@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Now why would Larry care if he is single or not? Oh ... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bales Sent: July 26, 2009 5:59 PM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner You left out the important part. Is he single? Anon Larry Daniels wrote: > Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC Cobras, 3 > Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR > McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd > have one. > > LAD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; mark at nashvilletn.org ; spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > > Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person with > more means is a Lamborghini owner. > > In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: > The difference between a Spridget owner and a > Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 16:08:53 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:08:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry> References: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> <43840a7e0907261502l5f9a9a38j2bdee3de1a17ae72@mail.gmail.com> <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0907261508i7eed4972xa4b75eda8800192d@mail.gmail.com> I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about..... ;-) Jim On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Well, Jim, I don't have any skates, but I might be able to come up with a > key for you. > > Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. > > LAD > > > ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Jim Johnson > *To:* Larry Daniels > *Cc:* WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net > *Sent:* Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:02 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > I'm so well heeled that I've started a roller skate collection.... > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > >> Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC >> Cobras, 3 >> Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR >> McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd >> have one. >> >> LAD >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com >> To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; mark at nashvilletn.org ; >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner >> >> >> Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person >> with >> more means is a Lamborghini owner. >> >> In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, >> ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: >> The difference between a Spridget owner and a >> Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am > not > sure about the former. - Albert Einstein > -- Cheers!! Jim Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 26 16:23:28 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:23:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> <4A6CD1A7.6030005@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <2A887E5247434301A790B79E85230B2B@Larry> Sorry, Kate, he's married with three kids and he is very much a family man. However, his son will inherit 1/3 of the portion of his estate not going to charity. We meet again in two months if you want me to put in a good word for you. ;-)) LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Bales" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner You left out the important part. Is he single? Anon Larry Daniels wrote: > Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC > Cobras, 3 > Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR > McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd > have one. > > LAD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; mark at nashvilletn.org ; > spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > > Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person > with > more means is a Lamborghini owner. > > In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: > The difference between a Spridget owner and a > Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun Jul 26 16:28:49 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:28:49 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry> References: , <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry> Message-ID: <4A6C7631.30294.1CBC921@kk7ss.verizon.net> I do, and so did Melanie.... But neither of us are youngsters.. On 26 Jul 2009 at 17:05, Larry Daniels wrote: >> Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 26 16:40:05 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:40:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: , <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry> <4A6C7631.30294.1CBC921@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> Good answer, Dave. Now, how many know who Melanie is? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner I do, and so did Melanie.... But neither of us are youngsters.. On 26 Jul 2009 at 17:05, Larry Daniels wrote: >> Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jul 26 16:57:21 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Millerls) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:57:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> References: , <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry> <4A6C7631.30294.1CBC921@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> Message-ID: <4638A7BA-2EC3-4696-8BCE-2ECE45B0A2D0@ado13.com> Me On Jul 26, 2009, at 3:40 PM, "Larry Daniels" wrote: > Good answer, Dave. Now, how many know who Melanie is? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave G." > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > > I do, and so did Melanie.... > But neither of us are youngsters.. > > On 26 Jul 2009 at 17:05, Larry Daniels wrote: > >>> Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. > > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 26 17:17:37 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:17:37 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug In-Reply-To: Message-ID: https://www.dormanproducts.com/cgi-bin/vm91corp30r/cat_search1.w?sid=cBlOMmH Oaiblgfld010963033835741008&clt=hwrap1&vsrch_str=&vsrch_cat=&vsrch_brand=all &vsrch_range=&st_amount=&end_amount=&from_page=search&category_no=1470&sku=& category_list=1470&vfrom=&vtime=69377&item_no= Or, here's another alternative: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/cooling/cool_105a.htm From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 17:43:13 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:43:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907261643w7fcda5f5h6a2720b316fba21a@mail.gmail.com> > Or, here's another alternative: > http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/cooling/cool_105a.htm Hmm, that site suggests the use of silicone sealant... David L From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sun Jul 26 17:42:46 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:42:46 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> References: , <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry><4A6C7631.30294.1CBC921@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> Message-ID: She had a brand new pair of roller skates and he had a brand new key ... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: July 26, 2009 6:40 PM To: kk7ss at verizon.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Good answer, Dave. Now, how many know who Melanie is? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner I do, and so did Melanie.... But neither of us are youngsters.. On 26 Jul 2009 at 17:05, Larry Daniels wrote: >> Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 17:50:04 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft In-Reply-To: <001701ca0e00$9dcbabc0$d9630340$@net> Message-ID: <398791.65082.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Henry Gregor Felsen wrote lots of great books. I've read most of them but not all. I will grab a copy every time I see one come up on eBay. I first read them when I was in grade school. I actually met H.G. Gregor at the SEMA show in something like 1990 or so. He was selling a box set of his entire works. Unfortunately I did not have the money to buy a set. I did shake his hand and tell him that his books were at least partly to blame for me being a life-long gearhead, getting into the automotive industry once I got out of college, and therefore standing in Vegas at the show right then. He was a really neat guy. P.S. I read "the Red Car" earlier this year on recommendation of a friend. Another great one. - David --- On Sun, 7/26/09, Wm. Severin Thompson wrote: From: Wm. Severin Thompson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft To: "'Ron Soave'" , "'Spridgets'" Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 9:51 AM I recently found a book on the giveaway pile at the local library by author Henry Gregor Felsen, and it brought back memories of all his car related novels I read as a kid. > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 9:12 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft > > Am on vacation, and picked up a copy of the classic book "The Red Car", > read in a day on the beach. Everyone on this list should read this > classic of a 16 year old kid in 1954 fixing a wrecked 1948 MG TC to go > racing. I was born way too late to have even known this book existed > until recently, but it's dead-center on about how most of us felt the > first time we saw these cars. > > Last, but not least controversially, I recently posted a camshaft 4 > sale. It was bought buy a lister who mic'd it and found it within the > tolerances of a new one. It saw duty in a mild race motor from 2003 to > 2005 with Redline oil. That's Redline Oil - the synthetic stuff used by > most of the vintage racers. > > Ron You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 17:53:16 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <946675.79839.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That's only happened to me when riding the Harley. Of course, you're looking down into the car or across at it where in the Midget you're generally looking up and don't have an advantageous angle, so maybe it's been happening and I just missed it... David Booker '71 Midget Long Island --- On Sun, 7/26/09, Robert Duquette wrote: From: Robert Duquette Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 4:19 PM ... and I thought that only happened to me! -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com When I'm driving my Sprite I regularly find women bare their breasts at the car - possibly this just happens in the UK! Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/07/2009 16:23:27 GMT Daylight Time, bugeye15 at hotmail.com writes: The car definitely has it. You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 17:56:00 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:56:00 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Message-ID: Nope, he just doesn't have taste! In a message dated 26/07/2009 22:29:27 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC Cobras, 3 Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd have one. LAD From george.brokaw at cox.net Sun Jul 26 17:55:30 2009 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:55:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WAS: How to piss of a Ferrari Owner NOW: Melanie In-Reply-To: References: , <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry><4A6C7631.30294.1CBC921@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> Message-ID: <036701ca0e4c$8ee47280$acad5780$@brokaw@cox.net> I would like to thank everyone. I now can't get that song out of my head!!!! -----Original Message----- She had a brand new pair of roller skates and he had a brand new key ... -----Original Message----- Good answer, Dave. Now, how many know who Melanie is? ----- Original Message ----- I do, and so did Melanie.... But neither of us are youngsters.. On 26 Jul 2009 at 17:05, Larry Daniels wrote: >> Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 17:57:50 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:57:50 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug Message-ID: only if you don't use antifreeze... In a message dated 26/07/2009 23:07:43 GMT Daylight Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: Dunno if this applies to the A series or not. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jul 26 17:58:43 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:58:43 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Message-ID: A cross between plastic and formica? In a message dated 26/07/2009 23:49:06 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Good answer, Dave. Now, how many know who Melanie is? From proefrock at comcast.net Sun Jul 26 17:59:52 2009 From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:59:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft In-Reply-To: <398791.65082.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <398791.65082.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <51CD40F2-AD6B-422C-8795-594700101646@comcast.net> All youse guys reading "The Red Car" must be buying a copy, correct? According to my librarian wife, there are only 4 libraries on the face of the earth that own a copy of "The Red Car". Guess I'll have to plunk down the cash if I wanna see what all the fuss is about . . . On Jul 26, 2009, at 6:50 PM, David Booker wrote: > P.S. I read "the Red Car" earlier this year on recommendation of a > friend. > Another great one. From 72spridget at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 18:33:59 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:33:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget Message-ID: <402188520907261733p49ae3e01qd824ba25ae692c1e@mail.gmail.com> For those interested in such rubbish ;-) Today's episode of Top Gear included a special challenge for the fearless threesome... They were each given 3000 GBP to acquire a car at a classic auction in order to "compete" in the classic car rally on the island of Mallorca. James May got stuck with a Citroen, Richard Hammond bought a Lanchester, and Jeremy Clarkson outdid himself with a 1969 Sprite! The company provided navigators for them... James got a glamour model with no experience whatsoever; Hammond got a mechanic who just happened to be shorter than himself; Jeremy wound up with a rally driver with lots of experience, but NO English. At the end of the filming, for the very first time, all three of them purchased their chariot from the BBC, so Jeremy Clarkson is now a Spridget owner... Is that a good thing??? David L From elwoodm at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 18:40:57 2009 From: elwoodm at gmail.com (Elwood Morgan) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:40:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 26, Issue 70 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3b8235ca0907261740q23f2801bke2f6a64cd1aad7ab@mail.gmail.com> Hey!! A skate key in the day was the equivalent to the car keys!! Provided a way to get around for those of us of small stature.... Party On!! Elwood in VA 78 Midget On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 7:53 PM, wrote: Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:05:51 -0500 From: "Larry Daniels" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner To: "Jim Johnson" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677 at Larry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, Jim, I don't have any skates, but I might be able to come up with a key for you. Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Johnson To: Larry Daniels Cc: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner I'm so well heeled that I've started a roller skate collection.... Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC Cobras, 3 Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd have one. LAD From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 26 18:41:00 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:41:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: Message-ID: <19EC00A73E8645A8B8FE9BE3F424FE2C@Larry> Ah, Weslake, taste often times comes down to individual approval. Give us all more money than we know what to do with and we will come up with as many different ideas of how to spend it. We talked today about how to give it away. This guy has more taste and more class than a lot of those who care to judge him. I'm not at all sure why you get to judge him. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Nope, he just doesn't have taste! In a message dated 26/07/2009 22:29:27 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC Cobras, 3 Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd have one. LAD From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 19:03:22 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:03:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft In-Reply-To: <51CD40F2-AD6B-422C-8795-594700101646@comcast.net> Message-ID: <371926.4231.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I bought it off Amazon. It was only a few bucks. --- On Sun, 7/26/09, Jim Proefrock wrote: > Guess I'll have to plunk down the cash if I wanna see what > all the fuss is about . . . From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jul 26 19:14:14 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:14:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft In-Reply-To: <51CD40F2-AD6B-422C-8795-594700101646@comcast.net> Message-ID: Still available from Amazon. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sun Jul 26 19:44:02 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:44:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> References: , <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry><4A6C7631.30294.1CBC921@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> Message-ID: <0907AFA26EE84AD6AF11AF628AC0E5BA@BASEMENTDELL> Darn you all to heck, now that song is stuck in my head. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:40 PM To: kk7ss at verizon.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Good answer, Dave. Now, how many know who Melanie is? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner I do, and so did Melanie.... But neither of us are youngsters.. On 26 Jul 2009 at 17:05, Larry Daniels wrote: >> Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun Jul 26 19:54:12 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] dissapointing waste.... Message-ID: <1264533882.5902601248659652092.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> So for 8 years I have driven paste this guys house 2 blocks away from me that has had what looks like a late 60 early 70's jag.B In all that time I have never seen it move.B Saturday I saw the bonnet up. Today I grew a pair and pulled into his large driveway up to his 6 car garage and knocked on the door.B Turns out he's an older gentleman very nice to strangers who show up on hisB doorstep .B Anyway he brings me over to the car and starts showing me around. The short story...the jag is a 71 all original v12 e type coupe needing a paint job and some surface rust for sale $12k.B Next to it under cover is a bead blasted 75b waiting to be reassembled.B In the garage it gets interestingB a 70b only needing the interior installed.B Next to that is a gut wrenching 68 6 cylinder E with a 1/2 inch of dust but other than that in immaculate condition.B and next to that a big healey .B I asked with all these great cars how often do you get out in them? one or twice a YEAR!!!!???B like i said a disappointing waste Although they may be hope his wife wants him to start getting rid of them ryan From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 26 19:55:12 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:55:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: , <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry><4A6C7631.30294.1CBC921@kk7ss.verizon.net><2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> <0907AFA26EE84AD6AF11AF628AC0E5BA@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: Ah, Chris, I can't wait to hear that song coming out of your mouth. Somehow, you don't bring up an image of anybody named "Melanie". ;-)) Especially that one. P.S. That's a good thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Manuel" To: Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Darn you all to heck, now that song is stuck in my head. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:40 PM To: kk7ss at verizon.net; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Good answer, Dave. Now, how many know who Melanie is? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner I do, and so did Melanie.... But neither of us are youngsters.. On 26 Jul 2009 at 17:05, Larry Daniels wrote: >> Now let's see how many youngsters here know what a skate key is. You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 26 20:03:57 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:03:57 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A6D0B0D.30107@comcast.net> Just today in the Speedwell, 2 twenty something year old good looking girls lean out of their window, the driver hanging over the roof of a Ford and both yell out... We love your efin car man! And they both used the "F" word. I said thanks it's only 50 years old and still has it's charm. Then they said something else about 50 that I did not make out and the light changed. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jul 26 20:08:47 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:08:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> References: , <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry> <4A6C7631.30294.1CBC921@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> Message-ID: <4A6D0C2F.1090705@comcast.net> Larry Daniels wrote: > Good answer, Dave. Now, how many know who Melanie is? > > > She is a Jersey girl, and had about 2 hit songs, I did see her back in the day at a local gig. I really do like Candles in the rain by her. And I am old enough to know what a skate key is. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From eap2140 at yahoo.com Sun Jul 26 20:13:31 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! In-Reply-To: <4A6D0B0D.30107@comcast.net> References: <4A6D0B0D.30107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <666548.72083.qm@web33708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My six year old daughter loves our Midget. She wants it when she's old enough to drive! Not sure I can maintain it that long, but I'll give it a try! I should have over $100K into it by then......she doesn't need college, she just needs to marry into money! To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 7:03:57 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! Just today in the Speedwell, 2 twenty something year old good looking girls lean out of their window, the driver hanging over the roof of a Ford and both yell out... We love your efin car man! And they both used the "F" word. I said thanks it's only 50 years old and still has it's charm. Then they said something else about 50 that I did not make out and the light changed. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From g.h.higgins at gmail.com Sun Jul 26 20:20:08 2009 From: g.h.higgins at gmail.com (Greg Higgins) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 22:20:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] blown frost plug Message-ID: Thanks for all the info on the frost plug, I will install the new one dry. I have a spare frost plug in my tool kit now. I sure like the adjustable rubber core plugs the racers use, thanks for the link, I may try and pick up one or two of those. I used Ultra Copper Permatex when I installed the 4 frost plugs as I mentioned earlier, there was a nice round ultra copper permatex gasket in the frost plug hole, live and learn. Greg Higgins 63 sprite From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Jul 26 20:37:43 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:37:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner References: , <15BD441909514BB3A909C1B169602677@Larry> <4A6C7631.30294.1CBC921@kk7ss.verizon.net> <2CED513EA0A3484587FF7EB00B14776C@Larry> <4A6D0C2F.1090705@comcast.net> Message-ID: <301AB95094AF44A4820C577DE083B500@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Larry Daniels" Larry Daniels wrote: > Good answer, Dave. Now, how many know who Melanie is? > > > She is a Jersey girl, and had about 2 hit songs, I did see her back in the day at a local gig. I really do like Candles in the rain by her. And I am old enough to know what a skate key is. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites ======================== Yeah, Frank, good tune. Here is her Woodstock version of the song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdDxFsopVs She was a babe back then, wasn't she? Damn, all those old memories. None of us in my circle of friends back then had a car we trusted to get to New York and back, so we missed Woodstock. What a shame. I'm betting Peter C. was close enough - and of a mind - to make it? Probably also knows what a skate key is. The old fart. LAD From cbaustin at verizon.net Sun Jul 26 21:00:36 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 23:00:36 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Chicks dig it! References: <4A6D0B0D.30107@comcast.net> Message-ID: <14E993F1F8394D08921F219885186C09@universal1> "Then they said something else about 50 that I did not make out " Could it have been a reference to millimeters? CB From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 27 02:18:26 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:18:26 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <2A887E5247434301A790B79E85230B2B@Larry> References: <0C5440CEB6884CC2B7A1E694FD8F6BA2@Larry> <4A6CD1A7.6030005@frontiernet.net> <2A887E5247434301A790B79E85230B2B@Larry> Message-ID: <4A6D62D2.4000105@frontiernet.net> Not unless he's over 50. Kate Larry Daniels wrote: > Sorry, Kate, he's married with three kids and he is very much a family man. > > However, his son will inherit 1/3 of the portion of his estate not going to > charity. We meet again in two months if you want me to put in a good word > for you. ;-)) > > LAD > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathryn Bales" > Cc: "Spridgets" > Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 4:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > > You left out the important part. Is he single? > > Anon > > Larry Daniels wrote: > >> Well this person of means doesn't own a Lambo, but he does have 2 AC >> Cobras, 3 >> Ferraris - a 288 GTO, a 559 GTB and a 550 Maranello, and a Mercedes SLR >> McLaren. I'm guessing that if he thought the Lambo was worth owning, he'd >> have one. >> >> LAD >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com >> To: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net ; mark at nashvilletn.org ; >> spridgets at autox.team.net >> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 3:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner >> >> >> Nope. A person with less means might be a Spridget owner while a person >> with >> more means is a Lamborghini owner. >> >> In a message dated 20/07/2009 01:51:00 GMT Daylight Time, >> ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: >> The difference between a Spridget owner and a >> Ferrari owner is the means to buy the car. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwramsey at att.net Mon Jul 27 02:47:14 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 01:47:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft In-Reply-To: <961827.54842.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090727084729.11BDC187673@autox.team.net> That was the book that started it all for me in the 60's. Number two would be "The Jeep" much the same. Crash Am on vacation, and picked up a copy of the classic book "The Red Car", read in a day on the beach. Everyone on this list should read this classic of a 16 year old kid in 1954 fixing a wrecked 1948 MG TC to go racing. I was born way too late to have even known this book existed until recently, but it's dead-center on about how most of us felt the first time we saw these cars. Ron From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jul 27 03:00:12 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:00:12 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget Message-ID: Only if he buys a set of silicone hose for it. In a message dated 27/07/2009 01:36:31 GMT Daylight Time, 72spridget at gmail.com writes: Jeremy Clarkson is now a Spridget owner... Is that a good thing??? From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 04:48:51 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 05:48:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907270348y7bb38df0hc462a2f3d3313fe5@mail.gmail.com> >> Jeremy Clarkson is now a Spridget owner... Is that a good thing??? > Only if he buys a set of silicone hose for it. And a book, don't forget the book! David L From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jul 27 05:54:12 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:54:12 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 Message-ID: Dave always has time to chat to me. Also, he recently returned my call when I needed to urgently check some cam timing data. I find Moss put me on hold so I hang up. I also bought panels from Moss and explained at length I didn't want a repeat experience of damaged panels so requested they take extra care packing the panels. When the bent panels arrived it looked like they were bent before they were even packed as the packing had minimal damage. YMMV Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 22/07/2009 21:49:58 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein at snet.net writes: You lucked-out by getting him on the phone right away. In my experience, he is not one to return calls. I bought from them twice. First order went smoothly. Second order, they forgot about, Third order, (repeat of the second), was a bad experience all around. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Wed, 7/22/09, Dave G. wrote: From: Dave G. Subject: Re: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 To: "Jay Fishbein" , Spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 4:31 PM In defence of Dave at APT... I ordered two K&N Filters from Dave. They were promptly delivered. Then I discovered that I had screwed up and that they were too big to fit under the hood. I phoned Dave, explained the situation. He replaced them with the next size down and they were alsso promptly delivered... You are subscribed as weslakemonza1330 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jdinnis at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 06:00:19 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:00:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget In-Reply-To: <402188520907261733p49ae3e01qd824ba25ae692c1e@mail.gmail.com> References: <402188520907261733p49ae3e01qd824ba25ae692c1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'll have to wait to see the episode, but I have to wonder how he can drive the thing? He's a huge beastly tall bloke. I'm guessing the top won't go up because his enormous mellon-head is in the way. And his feet are like canoes. That poor car. On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 7:33 PM, David Lieb<72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > For those interested in such rubbish ;-) > Today's episode of Top Gear included a special challenge for the > fearless threesome... > They were each given 3000 GBP to acquire a car at a classic auction in > order to "compete" in the classic car rally on the island of Mallorca. > James May got stuck with a Citroen, Richard Hammond bought a > Lanchester, and Jeremy Clarkson outdid himself with a 1969 Sprite! The > company provided navigators for them... James got a glamour model with > no experience whatsoever; Hammond got a mechanic who just happened to > be shorter than himself; Jeremy wound up with a rally driver with lots > of experience, but NO English. At the end of the filming, for the very > first time, all three of them purchased their chariot from the BBC, so > Jeremy Clarkson is now a Spridget owner... Is that a good thing??? > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 06:12:25 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:12:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget In-Reply-To: References: <402188520907261733p49ae3e01qd824ba25ae692c1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <402188520907270512p3870984y6bf91d5504e5004e@mail.gmail.com> He did drive it with the top up the first time. Took him two tries to get in the first time ;-) Remember, the Spridget has more leg room than a Miata, it is just harder to effect ingress and egress. David L From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 06:13:27 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:13:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <402188520907270513x39952067q6fc10e323e247eeb@mail.gmail.com> > Dave always has time to chat to me. Also, he recently returned my call > when I needed to urgently check some cam timing data. Yeah, but we are not all internationally famous ;-) ED From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jul 27 06:38:11 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:38:11 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] K&N Airfilter assembly for 1275 dual HS2 Message-ID: Who me? I was simply a customer. In a message dated 27/07/2009 13:20:11 GMT Daylight Time, 72spridget at gmail.com writes: > Dave always has time to chat to me. Also, he recently returned my call > when I needed to urgently check some cam timing data. Yeah, but we are not all internationally famous ;-) ED From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jul 27 06:39:14 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:39:14 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget Message-ID: Well I don't think he is setting any records and probably won't make it into the top 5 world's largest Spridget drivers. In a message dated 27/07/2009 13:06:10 GMT Daylight Time, jdinnis at gmail.com writes: I'll have to wait to see the episode, but I have to wonder how he can drive the thing? He's a huge beastly tall bloke. I'm guessing the top won't go up because his enormous mellon-head is in the way. And his feet are like canoes. That poor car. From grday at btinternet.com Mon Jul 27 07:00:13 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:00:13 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget References: <402188520907261733p49ae3e01qd824ba25ae692c1e@mail.gmail.com> <402188520907270512p3870984y6bf91d5504e5004e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <97A75110B45F4D008592DE4E7D937DF4@dell330> In my younger (harder working) days I gave a chap a lift to work in the Sprite as he claimed he didn't have a car he could use. He was around 6' 3" and 375 - 400lb (big guy). It became a pain going half an hour a day out of my way to pick him up and drop him off, waiting for him 'cause he hadn't finished his work on time and only a verbal thank you every other month etc. So, as I soured, I would stop next to the highest kerb (sidewalk) edge I could find to drop him off. Had to make sure the bottom of the door wouldn't scrape on the ground though. I found it more and more amusing as I found higher kerbs and watched his attempts to get in and out of the Sprite. I soon realised that getting in was little problem for him - gravity helped there - but getting out. LOL ! It all stopped when found out that he did have a car he could have used - he was just too mean to pay for his own fuel. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" <72spridget at gmail.com> To: "John Innis" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget > He did drive it with the top up the first time. Took him two tries to > get in the first time ;-) Remember, the Spridget has more leg room > than a Miata, it is just harder to effect ingress and egress. > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jul 27 07:03:22 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:03:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1658BE6F22014CB9AD8D1BBBADA7AC1E@Home> > Well I don't think he is setting any records and probably won't make it > into the top 5 world's largest Spridget drivers. How come no one ever complains about the other end of the spectrum. Like, how do you adjust a BE seat so you can reach the pedals with out mashing your boobs on the steering wheel? Mona Rowe From wmseverin at charter.net Mon Jul 27 07:08:23 2009 From: wmseverin at charter.net (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:08:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget In-Reply-To: <1658BE6F22014CB9AD8D1BBBADA7AC1E@Home> References: <1658BE6F22014CB9AD8D1BBBADA7AC1E@Home> Message-ID: <004501ca0ebb$52c22990$f8467cb0$@net> Mona, you should post pictures so we can help determine a solution... > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:03 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget > > > Well I don't think he is setting any records and probably won't make > it > > into the top 5 world's largest Spridget drivers. > > How come no one ever complains about the other end of the spectrum. > Like, > how do you adjust a BE seat so you can reach the pedals with out > mashing > your boobs on the steering wheel? > > Mona Rowe From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jul 27 07:14:46 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:14:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget In-Reply-To: <1658BE6F22014CB9AD8D1BBBADA7AC1E@Home> References: <1658BE6F22014CB9AD8D1BBBADA7AC1E@Home> Message-ID: <33564248-93E7-47A4-A54C-1F50A316531B@comcast.net> .. no boobs yet.. Lester On Jul 27, 2009, at 8:03 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> Well I don't think he is setting any records and probably won't >> make it >> into the top 5 world's largest Spridget drivers. > > How come no one ever complains about the other end of the spectrum. > Like, how do you adjust a BE seat so you can reach the pedals with > out mashing your boobs on the steering wheel? > > Mona Rowe _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jimndi at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 27 07:19:05 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:19:05 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Rear Gear Ratio Message-ID: <8FAAF741E79645769DD2C6A527D4822E@MAINCOMPUTER> I removed the Rear from my 60 BE and now I would like to calculate what is the rear end ratio. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to where to find out what was the standard and optional gear ratios for the 1960 model. Also are the speedo gears color coded to the ratio as in domestic autos? Thanks, Jim F. From John.Deikis at va.gov Mon Jul 27 07:27:08 2009 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:27:08 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I was not referring to their SM oil but their other product which is the old Kendall GT1. -----Original Message----- From: Billy Zoom [mailto:billyzoom at billyzoom.com] Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:16 PM To: Deikis, John G; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] oil for spridgets Pre-1997 amount was 1600ppm. Brad Penn oil is 800ppm. > More is not always better. ZDDP is also a corrosive. Flat tappet cams > seem to like that 1200-1400 ppm. Go over that amount (like dumping too > much red-bottle STP into your 20-50 GTX) and you swing the pendulum > the other way. > > Easiest insurance: use oil formulated for aircooled motorcycles. > > Only a little less easy: use Brad Penn which you can get by UPS or, if > you happen to live near a distributor or race shop, right out the back > door. From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 07:43:46 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:43:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Rear Gear Ratio In-Reply-To: <8FAAF741E79645769DD2C6A527D4822E@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <8FAAF741E79645769DD2C6A527D4822E@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <402188520907270643v20a504e4m89481086e5bd41a2@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/27 Jim F. : > I removed the Rear from my 60 BE and now I would like to calculate what is the > rear end ratio. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to where to find > out what was the standard and optional gear ratios for the 1960 model. Also > are the speedo gears color coded to the ratio as in domestic autos? Jim, It came from the factory with a 4.22. In 67 or so they changed to the 3.9. In 08/77 they changed to the rare 3.73 Easiest way to determine the ratio is to find where the numbers might be stamped on the housing indicating the number of teeth on the pinion gear and the ring gear. Alternatively, looking at the teeth and counting the ones on the pinion will tell you. The 4.22 has 9 teeth on the pinion gear The 3.90 has 10 teeth on the pinion gear The 3.73 has 11 teeth on the pinion gear If you do not wish to open it up, keep one axle from turning, turn the diff flange and see how many rotation of it are necessary for the turning wheel to go two complete revolutions. I am betting it is a 4.22 No idea as to the speedo gears... David L > Thanks, > Jim F. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 72spridget at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jul 27 07:56:53 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:56:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Last Call -- EAA Air Show Message-ID: <85900A9AFFEB45EFA1779C2EBEDBFA19@Larry> Just a reminder, if you would like to attend the annual EAA party, yell out. Saturday, August 1st will be our 2nd annual Brit Car Show to go along with our 6th annual EAA Air Show. We should meet at our local British Car Clubhouse at County E and Sand Pit Road, Oshkosh, WI or at the Planeview Truck Stop at HWY 26 and 41, Oshkosh at 1:00 and go to the show from there. http://www.airventure.org/ Once again, my brother and I will supply the beer, soda and BBQ. Just bring a dish to pass, a lawnchair, a camera, sunscreen, a hat and ear protection. We will be on the east flightline and directly below the return path for the show. Those who were here last year will tell you that this was a very good place to watch the show and a good time. Please RSVP by July 25 so we know how much food and drink to buy. This is a family-friendly event, so bring your kids, too. All are welcome and we always plan on extras and last minute guests. Larry Daniels ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 08:09:50 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:09:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Last Call -- EAA Air Show In-Reply-To: <85900A9AFFEB45EFA1779C2EBEDBFA19@Larry> References: <85900A9AFFEB45EFA1779C2EBEDBFA19@Larry> Message-ID: <402188520907270709o5da0e9f3h98d10ba02de02d1a@mail.gmail.com> > Those who were here last year will tell you that this was a very good place > to watch the show and a good time. It certainly was ! Nothing like watching a Harrier (I think) power-drifting right over your head. David L From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jul 27 08:25:39 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:25:39 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear Spridget Message-ID: Boobs or Moobs? In a message dated 27/07/2009 14:06:47 GMT Daylight Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: How come no one ever complains about the other end of the spectrum. Like, how do you adjust a BE seat so you can reach the pedals with out mashing your boobs on the steering wheel? Mona Rowe _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 08:26:55 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 08:26:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] BE Rear Gear Ratio In-Reply-To: <402188520907270643v20a504e4m89481086e5bd41a2@mail.gmail.com> References: <8FAAF741E79645769DD2C6A527D4822E@MAINCOMPUTER> <402188520907270643v20a504e4m89481086e5bd41a2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910907270726yf714912j49854d2693f3bb2c@mail.gmail.com> It should be stamped on the carrier. 9/38 10/39 11/41 From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jul 27 10:25:01 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:25:01 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] To: Chicago Land AHCA folks Message-ID: <7ll0se$6oqe9f@email.mtu.edu> A week or so ago, I posted a note to the list saying that a story about my Sprite had been published in the local paper. A guy here, who I only recently met, mailed the story to a friend in Mount Prospect, IL. The friend wrote back and sent along pictures of a "Healey Pilgrimage" he made to Cornwall, England (in 1993). His name is Howard Richardson. Among other things he and friends restored a Sprite MKIII in the early '90's which was then raffled by the local AHCA club at a British Car Show (a couple from southern Wi won the car). I'm guessing one or more of you Chicago land / Southern Wisconsin guys knows Mr. Richardson. If so, I'd like to mention "friends in common" when I reply to his mailing. Pls let me know off line. Thanks!! Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From bighealey at charter.net Mon Jul 27 11:30:36 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:30:36 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Rubber Bumper Conversion Midget Message-ID: <20090727133036.32RMA.2463260.root@mp17> Does the front bumper mount from a 70s Midget or Sprite work for a chrome bumper conversion? Looks like \ \_____ I have solid chrome bumpers to go on I picked up yesterday. From jimndi at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 27 12:00:42 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:00:42 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "A" Arms Message-ID: <8344556949084336BFECE995E4D17B74@MAINCOMPUTER> I'm having difficulty removing the Fulcrum Pins that attach the front lower A Arms to the BE shell. Is there a trick to this I don't want to use the hot wrench because of the rubber. From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 12:10:52 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:10:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Question on Rubber Bumper Conversion Midget In-Reply-To: <20090727133036.32RMA.2463260.root@mp17> References: <20090727133036.32RMA.2463260.root@mp17> Message-ID: <402188520907271110k558ca701vd99f94bba5d0b36c@mail.gmail.com> > I have solid chrome bumpers to go on I picked up yesterday. Wow! I have only seen chrome-plated ones in the past. I must hang out with the lowly Spridget folks too much... ;-) David L From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Jul 27 12:21:44 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:21:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A-frame and sway bars... Message-ID: <4A6D8DC8.5821.3C1CC4@kk7ss.verizon.net> My A-frames are un-molested and I habe a sway bar I'd like to fit... Does anybody have a goor resolution picture of where and how they sway bar is supposed to atttach to the A-Frame?? Tnx -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jul 27 12:32:21 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:32:21 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for door check straps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <376DAFD2-FBB6-4461-87E5-DF31F3F68E00@mac.com> Also you can use the black Navy uniform belts. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 24, 2009, at 9:08 AM, Gregory Groiss wrote: > John, > > If you have the metal ends the straps can easily be made from a piece > of black or whatever other color, vinyl. > > Greg > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:54 AM, John Leier > wrote: >> If anyone wants to sell (or donate!) a couple of black door check >> straps > that >> will fit a 74 Midget, please contact me off list. Thanks! >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as ggroiss at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Jul 27 12:47:19 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:47:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A-frame and sway bars... In-Reply-To: <4A6D8DC8.5821.3C1CC4@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A6D8DC8.5821.3C1CC4@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4A6D93C7.7869.53891D@kk7ss.verizon.net> My apologies, folks.... I'd had my coffee... no excuse for fa-fingering the spelling ;-() On 27 Jul 2009 at 11:21, Dave G. wrote: >> My A-frames are un-molested and I habe a sway bar I'd like to fit... >> >> Does anybody have a goor resolution picture of where and how they sway >> bar is supposed to atttach to the A-Frame?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jul 27 13:09:21 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:09:21 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Message-ID: I don't get to judge him, just pass comment in a forum! Hopefully your friend isn't a Ferrari snob. Weslake-Monza 1330 - My other car isn't a Lamborghini In a message dated 27/07/2009 01:41:51 GMT Daylight Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: Ah, Weslake, taste often times comes down to individual approval. Give us all more money than we know what to do with and we will come up with as many different ideas of how to spend it. We talked today about how to give it away. This guy has more taste and more class than a lot of those who care to judge him. I'm not at all sure why you get to judge him. From nases at verizon.net Mon Jul 27 13:24:21 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:24:21 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] A-frame and sway bars... In-Reply-To: <4A6D8DC8.5821.3C1CC4@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A6D8DC8.5821.3C1CC4@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <969ECEBB-ADC4-432F-81B6-E60A8FC1EFA0@verizon.net> Hi Dave, I have a few on my website for my bugeye. Here's the link: http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/photoyellow60.html Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jul 27, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Dave G. wrote: > My A-frames are un-molested and I habe a sway bar I'd like to fit... > > Does anybody have a goor resolution picture of where and how they > sway bar is supposed to atttach to the A-Frame?? > > Tnx > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 13:35:11 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:35:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907271235q5afc33a5k35c68c158b4a4e22@mail.gmail.com> ...I can be a 'mean' as the next guy! I've never had a Lamborghini, but I had a Hernia. From bighealey at charter.net Mon Jul 27 13:47:41 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:47:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A-frame and sway bars... In-Reply-To: <4A6D8DC8.5821.3C1CC4@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <20090727154741.0VAW8.2500180.root@mp13> Dave, Consider getting some stronger A Frames from a 75-79 Midget along with the sway bar mounts and sway bar. Original A Arms do not have the stronger back plates. Many Many Midgets are being parted out these days since they are not so desirable with their Triump Motors rubber bumpers etc. So they are cheap and available. Just a thought. ---- "Dave G." wrote: > My A-frames are un-molested and I habe a sway bar I'd like to fit... > > Does anybody have a goor resolution picture of where and how they > sway bar is supposed to atttach to the A-Frame?? > > Tnx > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Jul 27 13:48:38 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:48:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] "A" Arms Message-ID: If they're seized, best bet is probably a sawzall. Bushings should probably be replaced anyway. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Jim F. [jimndi at frontiernet.net] Sent: 7/27/2009 2:02:42 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] "A" Arms I'm having difficulty removing the Fulcrum Pins that attach the front lower A Arms to the BE shell. Is there a trick to this I don't want to use the hot wrench because of the rubber. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From cbaustin at verizon.net Mon Jul 27 15:00:44 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:00:44 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] No car stuff, just lots of stuff! Message-ID: <8F702743485C47ADA07E6B1829E640B0@universal1> www.jwoodandcompany.com/2009/jack_dash/jack_dash.htm I know, I know, just take a look! CB From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Jul 27 15:35:50 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:35:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A-frame and sway bars... In-Reply-To: References: <4A6D8DC8.5821.3C1CC4@kk7ss.verizon.net>, Message-ID: <4A6DBB46.21253.EDD0AB@kk7ss.verizon.net> Whoever relpied to me off-list about having a spare pair of A- frames... Could you re-send your email, please?? The ISP mangled the headers and I don't know who it was ;-(( -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jul 27 15:45:40 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:45:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907271235q5afc33a5k35c68c158b4a4e22@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10907271235q5afc33a5k35c68c158b4a4e22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1248731140.24384.17.camel@WebBrowser> I am sure there are snobs in the Spridget world also. In my other life, I drive a FIAT Dino Spider, because of its history and ties to Ferrari it is allowed in the Ferrari owners club and at all events (supposed to be anyway). Over the years at various events, I have met some of the biggest SOB's on the planet and some of the very nicest you could ever want to meet. One time at a dinner in L.A. I was told by the organizer that my Dino needed to be parked in the "other cars" parking lot across the street, only Ferrari's were allowed in the restaurants parking lot. I did not argue and drove across the street and 3 Ferrari's followed me which really upset him, made some great friends that night. I would have to say that the Ferrari world and the entire Italian exotic car scene has the most snobs who will quickly defend their choice of car but really don't know anything about the car. But its not everyone, some of them really are lifelong friends that you can depend on, they just have a extra 0 or two in their bank balance. I just treat all Ferrari owners as snobs until they prove otherwise to me, its surprising how many are down to earth people. But the ones that really are snobs, RUN, don't walk RUN AWAY. From 72spridget at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 15:56:11 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:56:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <1248731140.24384.17.camel@WebBrowser> References: <2ad6c6b10907271235q5afc33a5k35c68c158b4a4e22@mail.gmail.com> <1248731140.24384.17.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <402188520907271456o320417b8yfac8dd5ce644a574@mail.gmail.com> > I just treat all Ferrari owners as snobs until they prove otherwise to > me, its surprising how many are down to earth people. But the ones that > really are snobs, RUN, don't walk RUN AWAY. Ya gotta wonder whether they have any idea WHO Dino was ;-) Anyhow, the first British car I owned was an MGB. I bought it from a guy who once drove for the Jaguar factory team. He now has a 1967 Aston Martin as his toy. He told me about doing a track tour at Road America one time and passing four Ferraris... "Those guys spend so much on their cars that they don't think anyone should pass them, let alone a car they can't even identify." David L From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jul 27 16:17:00 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Message-ID: <575160.98096.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Many years ago, (MANY years ago.) I became a member of the Ferrari Club of America. As a fan of F1 and someone with an appreciation for these fine automobiles, I thought it would be interesting to get closer to them by receiving the club publication and attending some events, at Watkins Glen in particular. What I found was that many people didn't have much interest in the cars beyond them being the ticket to enter that little world. Many had no appreciation for other significant cars that might show at an event (A Gulf Porsche for example.) Then there were the Dino 246 owners who installed Ferrari badges on their cars. For those unfamiliar with Dino 246's, they never carried "Ferrari" badging. OTOH, there were many owners that drove their cars, occasionally smashed them (ever see a P4 crumpled like aluminum foil?), and were knowledgeable and enthusiastic. Just my observations..... Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT Sprite Innocenti Morris Mini Van --- On Mon, 7/27/09, mike rambour wrote: From: mike rambour Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 5:45 PM I am sure there are snobs in the Spridget world also. In my other life, I drive a FIAT Dino Spider, because of its history and ties to Ferrari it is allowed in the Ferrari owners club and at all events (supposed to be anyway). Over the years at various events, I have met some of the biggest SOB's on the planet and some of the very nicest you could ever want to meet. One time at a dinner in L.A. I was told by the organizer that my Dino needed to be parked in the "other cars" parking lot across the street, only Ferrari's were allowed in the restaurants parking lot. I did not argue and drove across the street and 3 Ferrari's followed me which really upset him, made some great friends that night. I would have to say that the Ferrari world and the entire Italian exotic car scene has the most snobs who will quickly defend their choice of car but really don't know anything about the car. But its not everyone, some of them really are lifelong friends that you can depend on, they just have a extra 0 or two in their bank balance. I just treat all Ferrari owners as snobs until they prove otherwise to me, its surprising how many are down to earth people. But the ones that really are snobs, RUN, don't walk RUN AWAY. From bighealey at charter.net Mon Jul 27 16:17:54 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:17:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <1248731140.24384.17.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <20090727181754.9XY17.2501340.root@mp11> Ever notice that Ferrari chicks look like biker chicks with money? ---- mike rambour wrote: > I am sure there are snobs in the Spridget world also. > > In my other life, I drive a FIAT Dino Spider, because of its history > and ties to Ferrari it is allowed in the Ferrari owners club and at all > events (supposed to be anyway). > > Over the years at various events, I have met some of the biggest SOB's > on the planet and some of the very nicest you could ever want to meet. > One time at a dinner in L.A. I was told by the organizer that my Dino > needed to be parked in the "other cars" parking lot across the street, > only Ferrari's were allowed in the restaurants parking lot. I did not > argue and drove across the street and 3 Ferrari's followed me which > really upset him, made some great friends that night. > > I would have to say that the Ferrari world and the entire Italian > exotic car scene has the most snobs who will quickly defend their choice > of car but really don't know anything about the car. But its not > everyone, some of them really are lifelong friends that you can depend > on, they just have a extra 0 or two in their bank balance. > > I just treat all Ferrari owners as snobs until they prove otherwise to > me, its surprising how many are down to earth people. But the ones that > really are snobs, RUN, don't walk RUN AWAY. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jimndi at frontiernet.net Mon Jul 27 16:18:22 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:18:22 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] "A" Arms References: Message-ID: <6C9672B1C7E1477A99BD698DC6A76F88@MAINCOMPUTER> thanks guys. Used the Hot Wrench and they came right out. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris King To: jimndi at frontiernet.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] "A" Arms If they're seized, best bet is probably a sawzall. Bushings should probably be replaced anyway. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Jim F. [jimndi at frontiernet.net] Sent: 7/27/2009 2:02:42 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] "A" Arms I'm having difficulty removing the Fulcrum Pins that attach the front lower A Arms to the BE shell. Is there a trick to this I don't want to use the hot wrench because of the rubber. _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.32/2266 - Release Date: 07/27/09 05:58:00 From bighealey at charter.net Mon Jul 27 16:21:46 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:21:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <402188520907271456o320417b8yfac8dd5ce644a574@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090727182146.XJ6P7.2501579.root@mp11> Pretty funny. I have a Big Healey. I get accused of descrimination against Sprites. I have a Midget, I get descriminated against by Sprite owners. I spent most of the last year of weekends helping a few friends restore their Bugeyes. I would happily drive a Fiat (oh I used to have one) or a Ferrari (cannot afford). ---- David Lieb <72spridget at gmail.com> wrote: > > I just treat all Ferrari owners as snobs until they prove otherwise to > > me, its surprising how many are down to earth people. But the ones that > > really are snobs, RUN, don't walk RUN AWAY. > > Ya gotta wonder whether they have any idea WHO Dino was ;-) > > Anyhow, the first British car I owned was an MGB. I bought it from a > guy who once drove for the Jaguar factory team. He now has a 1967 > Aston Martin as his toy. He told me about doing a track tour at Road > America one time and passing four Ferraris... "Those guys spend so > much on their cars that they don't think anyone should pass them, let > alone a car they can't even identify." > David L > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jfishbein at snet.net Mon Jul 27 16:22:29 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Message-ID: <811925.64580.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Or hookers. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, bighealey at charter.net wrote: From: bighealey at charter.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner To: "mike rambour" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 6:17 PM Ever notice that Ferrari chicks look like biker chicks with money? From bighealey at charter.net Mon Jul 27 16:24:24 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:24:24 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <575160.98096.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090727182424.8AIS2.2501749.root@mp11> Jay, I think I just republished your BugEye article from 86 on the AHCUSA website. ---- Jay Fishbein wrote: > Many years ago, (MANY years ago.) I became a member of the Ferrari Club of > America. As a fan of F1 and someone with an appreciation for these fine > automobiles, I thought it would be interesting to get closer to them by > receiving the club publication and attending some events, at Watkins Glen in > particular. > > What I found was that many people didn't have much interest in the cars beyond > them being the ticket to enter that little world. Many had no appreciation for > other significant cars that might show at an event (A Gulf Porsche for > example.) > > Then there were the Dino 246 owners who installed Ferrari badges on their > cars. For those unfamiliar with Dino 246's, they never carried "Ferrari" > badging. > > OTOH, there were many owners that drove their cars, occasionally smashed them > (ever see a P4 crumpled like aluminum foil?), and were knowledgeable and > enthusiastic. > > Just my observations..... > > Jay Fishbein > Wallingford, CT > Sprite > Innocenti > Morris Mini Van > > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, mike rambour wrote: > > From: mike rambour > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 5:45 PM > > I am sure there are snobs in the Spridget world also. > > In my other life, I drive a FIAT Dino Spider, because of its history > and ties to Ferrari it is allowed in the Ferrari owners club and at all > events (supposed to be anyway). > > Over the years at various events, I have met some of the biggest SOB's > on the planet and some of the very nicest you could ever want to meet. > One time at a dinner in L.A. I was told by the organizer that my Dino > needed to be parked in the "other cars" parking lot across the street, > only Ferrari's were allowed in the restaurants parking lot. I did not > argue and drove across the street and 3 Ferrari's followed me which > really upset him, made some great friends that night. > > I would have to say that the Ferrari world and the entire Italian > exotic car scene has the most snobs who will quickly defend their choice > of car but really don't know anything about the car. But its not > everyone, some of them really are lifelong friends that you can depend > on, they just have a extra 0 or two in their bank balance. > > I just treat all Ferrari owners as snobs until they prove otherwise to > me, its surprising how many are down to earth people. But the ones that > really are snobs, RUN, don't walk RUN AWAY. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mikey at b2systems.com Mon Jul 27 16:41:44 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:41:44 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <20090727181754.9XY17.2501340.root@mp11> References: <20090727181754.9XY17.2501340.root@mp11> Message-ID: <1248734504.24384.32.camel@WebBrowser> On Mon, 2009-07-27 at 15:17 -0700, bighealey at charter.net wrote: > Ever notice that Ferrari chicks look like biker chicks with money? No they don't !!! the biker chicks can't afford the larger yahoo's, best they can afford is more tattoo's. Come to think of it, other than the size of their implants they do look the same :) I think the Ferrari chicks use more bleach in their hair also. From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jul 27 16:49:38 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:49:38 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <402188520907271456o320417b8yfac8dd5ce644a574@mail.gmail.com> References: <2ad6c6b10907271235q5afc33a5k35c68c158b4a4e22@mail.gmail.com><1248731140.24384.17.camel@WebBrowser> <402188520907271456o320417b8yfac8dd5ce644a574@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The dog from the flintstones, of course!! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: July 27, 2009 5:56 PM To: mike rambour; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > I just treat all Ferrari owners as snobs until they prove otherwise to > me, its surprising how many are down to earth people. But the ones that > really are snobs, RUN, don't walk RUN AWAY. Ya gotta wonder whether they have any idea WHO Dino was ;-) Anyhow, the first British car I owned was an MGB. I bought it from a guy who once drove for the Jaguar factory team. He now has a 1967 Aston Martin as his toy. He told me about doing a track tour at Road America one time and passing four Ferraris... "Those guys spend so much on their cars that they don't think anyone should pass them, let alone a car they can't even identify." David L From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Jul 27 16:53:29 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:53:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <1248731140.24384.17.camel@WebBrowser> References: <2ad6c6b10907271235q5afc33a5k35c68c158b4a4e22@mail.gmail.com> <1248731140.24384.17.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907271553t43e59677p477a7774726e88e@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:45 PM, mike rambour wrote: > I just treat all Ferrari owners as snobs until they prove otherwise to > me, its surprising how many are down to earth people. But the ones that > really are snobs, RUN, don't walk RUN AWAY. I dont think any particular car ownership has anything to do with it. I've only met a few Ferrari owners, and everyone of them were quite cordial. I've met quite a few more Austin-Healy and/or MG owners and while most are absolutely great, I've met a few that can be anything but nice. I prefer to just start by treating everyone as normal, down to earth people, inherently deserving of some level of decency and respect ... until _they_ prove otherwise. Hopefully my kids have all learned that same golden lesson. From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 17:33:58 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Cars Message-ID: <878116.65927.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Are you guys all high? As much as I love my Big Healey and my Little Healey, I'd trade them both for the crappiest Ferrari to ever hit the road. C'mon guys, we're comparing hammer and anvil tech to Formula One engineering, here. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jul 27 17:40:46 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:40:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Cars In-Reply-To: <878116.65927.qm@web51408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > I'd trade them both for the crappiest Ferrari He's a heretic...BURN HIM! From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Jul 27 17:51:56 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Cars Message-ID: <123575.32775.qm@web51405.mail.re2.yahoo.com> LOL! I admit it. I'm more like a Healey guy than an Austin-Healey guy. Throw a Mazda rotary in a Bugeye or a small block Ford or Chevy into a big Healey and I'm there! --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Billy Zoom wrote: From: Billy Zoom Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Red Cars To: "HealeyRick" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 7:40 PM > I'd trade them both for the crappiest Ferrari He's a heretic...BURN HIM! From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Jul 27 17:57:30 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:57:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner Message-ID: <7AB3EEA26F7C4C04884CFA854A4B89BF@spider> Remember, Ferrari owners have a place in the grander scheme of things; like politicians, bankers and outhouses. I have spake. ...bill in oregon From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Jul 27 19:32:50 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:32:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <7AB3EEA26F7C4C04884CFA854A4B89BF@spider> References: <7AB3EEA26F7C4C04884CFA854A4B89BF@spider> Message-ID: I'll have to admit that I have a bit of a soft spot for Ferraris- I "crewed" one for a year once. It was my roommate's car in college, a 1965 365GT (I think)in 1970. It was a VERY NICE Camaro with a V-12, a 5-speed with OD in 3rd,4th&5th and would do 156 on the Penn Turnpike all the way from Pittsburg to Phili (at around 2:00 in the morning). His dad was the Maser,Lambo,Ferrari importer for the east coast (Steingold Motors of RI) and sent one of the "old" cars to school with his son. Kind of fun while it lasted. BillM > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:57:30 -0700 > Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > Remember, Ferrari owners have a place in the grander scheme of things; like > politicians, bankers and outhouses. I have spake. ...bill in oregon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jul 27 20:51:23 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:51:23 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugey heater blower, it's harness, and the firewall. Message-ID: My heater blower has two wires. One wire has a lucas bullet connector, and the other has eyelet (presumably a ground to be connected to a nearby 1/4 x 28 bolt). These connectors appear to be original. Question #1: Which nearby bolt did the eyelet go to? My next problem is when I look at this diagram: http://www.gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/Cables_wires_lo2.htm It says that hole (numbered 2) in the firewall is for the heater motor harness. What harness? As far as I can tell, the proper wire from the heater switch goes down through the main woven harness and comes out near the connector that goes to the hi/lo beam harness right near the heater. Question #2 Is the above diagram correct? Question #3 If the above diagram is wrong, then what goes through hole number two? From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jul 27 21:28:48 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:28:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugey heater blower, it's harness, and the firewall. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A6E7070.8050105@comcast.net> Dean Hedin wrote: > > > Question #2 Is the above diagram correct? > > Question #3 If the above diagram is wrong, then what goes through hole > number two? > _______________________________________________ I think hole #2 is for the heater cable, hole 6 is for the battery wire or maybe the starter cable, then hole 4 is for the battery wire. I am not positive on these holes from the picture but the cables use the straightest line from pull knob to device except the MKII which for some reason crossed the choke and starter cables There is no heater wire harness, is comes out of the main harness near the fuse box and hooks up to the heater blower. The ground goes to the single leg up near the firewall not under the lower blower bolts. The heater hot wire is (usually) green with a yellow stripe. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From dwramsey at att.net Mon Jul 27 23:23:43 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:23:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10907271235q5afc33a5k35c68c158b4a4e22@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090728052358.5BA82187663@autox.team.net> I like Lamborghini if it is cooked right. Crash I've never had a Lamborghini, but I had a Hernia. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jul 27 23:36:56 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:36:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugey heater blower, it's harness, and the firewall. References: <4A6E7070.8050105@comcast.net> Message-ID: I think hole #2 was unused and filled with a blanking grommet (at least for US cars) Need to do more research to be certain... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Dean Hedin" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugey heater blower, it's harness, and the firewall. > Dean Hedin wrote: >> >> >> Question #2 Is the above diagram correct? >> >> Question #3 If the above diagram is wrong, then what goes through hole >> number two? >> _______________________________________________ > I think hole #2 is for the heater cable, hole 6 is for the battery wire > or maybe the starter cable, then hole 4 is for the battery wire. > I am not positive on these holes from the picture but the cables use the > straightest line from pull knob to device except the MKII which for some > reason crossed the choke and starter cables > There is no heater wire harness, is comes out of the main harness near > the fuse box and hooks up to the heater blower. > The ground goes to the single leg up near the firewall not under the > lower blower bolts. The heater hot wire is (usually) green with a > yellow stripe. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > My own Fleet of Sprites From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Jul 28 08:46:13 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:46:13 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BE spring box In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43136F93906D40D199772C5787EA9028@Home> Thanks to those who answered my question on measurements. The answers create more questions. Billy measures the spring box pocket to be 2 7/8" high. Gerard measures 2 3/4". I measure 2 1/2", which is barely enough to get the 15-leaf springs in and out. All of these cars are stripped and on rotisseries for easy access. The 3/8" difference from tallest to shortest is huge relative to the beam of the car. The original BE MKI manual shows the bottom of the spring box as a separate piece from the triangular side supports, unlike the current replacement. It is now clear that the bottom my spring box was replaced as a separate piece, and was probably placed high to reach was was left of the rusted out triangular side supports. There is some evidence of this from the appearance of the welds. And yet, it stands a little proud of the framing, and I will have to bend the floor pan a bit to match the sills. I have been patching rotted out bits and filling in misalignments with bar stock, but now I am really worried that I am going to have to take out the entire area, including the floor stiffener, and realign everything. Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite kit Long Island, NY From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 28 09:09:03 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 08:09:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <20090728052358.5BA82187663@autox.team.net> References: <20090728052358.5BA82187663@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4A6F148F.7040003@frontiernet.net> I don't have a recipe for Lamborghini, but I fix a perfect leg of lamb. Kate David Ramsey wrote: > I like Lamborghini if it is cooked right. > Crash > > I've never had a Lamborghini, but I had a Hernia. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jimndi at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 28 09:49:53 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:49:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares Message-ID: <66114A7891444EABAB5ACA2985A8E528@MAINCOMPUTER> I'm disassembling my 60 BE and I noticed how odd the brake line flares appeared. I assumed that I could go to my local NAPA and make new lines if needed. Now its obvious that I can't. What is the correct term for this type of flare? I have a double flaring tool but it appears that it won't help. are there adapters required or what?? Thanks J From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 10:06:50 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:06:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <66114A7891444EABAB5ACA2985A8E528@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <66114A7891444EABAB5ACA2985A8E528@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <81AB0F46-AA7C-4C5E-AFFF-5F6707B74445@comcast.net> I don't recall offhand what they have but my guess is that it's a "bubble" or "European" flare. It's the first half of making a double flare so you have the tool already! Lester On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Jim F. wrote: > I'm disassembling my 60 BE and I noticed how odd the brake line flares > appeared. I assumed that I could go to my local NAPA and make new > lines if > needed. Now its obvious that I can't. What is the correct term for > this type > of flare? I have a double flaring tool but it appears that it won't > help. are > there adapters required or what?? > > Thanks > J > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From duncan at pondhop.com Tue Jul 28 10:21:35 2009 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:21:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <81AB0F46-AA7C-4C5E-AFFF-5F6707B74445@comcast.net> References: <66114A7891444EABAB5ACA2985A8E528@MAINCOMPUTER> <81AB0F46-AA7C-4C5E-AFFF-5F6707B74445@comcast.net> Message-ID: <009c01ca0f9f$7cbbf570$7633e050$@com> I went through this same process a couple of years ago and was firmly told by WST that a bubble flare is close to half a double flare but it is not the same thing. The angles are different. I am glad he pointed that out and you can tell the difference when comparing them. My bubble flare set only coat around $30 so why chance it. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:07 AM To: Jim F.; spridgets - Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake line flares I don't recall offhand what they have but my guess is that it's a "bubble" or "European" flare. It's the first half of making a double flare so you have the tool already! Lester On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Jim F. wrote: > I'm disassembling my 60 BE and I noticed how odd the brake line flares > appeared. I assumed that I could go to my local NAPA and make new > lines if > needed. Now its obvious that I can't. What is the correct term for > this type > of flare? I have a double flaring tool but it appears that it won't > help. are > there adapters required or what?? > > Thanks > J > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Tue Jul 28 10:23:45 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:23:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <009c01ca0f9f$7cbbf570$7633e050$@com> References: <66114A7891444EABAB5ACA2985A8E528@MAINCOMPUTER> <81AB0F46-AA7C-4C5E-AFFF-5F6707B74445@comcast.net> <009c01ca0f9f$7cbbf570$7633e050$@com> Message-ID: <015e01ca0f9f$c911e3d0$5b35ab70$@com> Close is no cigar. I have made a half flare work in a pinch, but I own a bubble flare kit. > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Sinclair > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:22 AM > To: 'Lester'; 'Jim F.'; 'spridgets - Spridgets' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake line flares > > I went through this same process a couple of years ago and was firmly > told > by WST that a bubble flare is close to half a double flare but it is > not the > same thing. The angles are different. > I am glad he pointed that out and you can tell the difference when > comparing > them. > My bubble flare set only coat around $30 so why chance it. > > Thanks > Duncan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:07 AM > To: Jim F.; spridgets - Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake line flares > > I don't recall offhand what they have but my guess is that it's a > "bubble" or "European" flare. It's the first half of making a double > flare so you have the tool already! > > Lester > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Jim F. wrote: > > > I'm disassembling my 60 BE and I noticed how odd the brake line > flares > > appeared. I assumed that I could go to my local NAPA and make new > > lines if > > needed. Now its obvious that I can't. What is the correct term for > > this type > > of flare? I have a double flaring tool but it appears that it won't > > help. are > > there adapters required or what?? > > > > Thanks > > J > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wsthompson at thicko.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jul 28 10:56:55 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:56:55 EDT Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Cars Message-ID: But their F1 record isn't that fantastic when you consider their win record against their number of starts. In a message dated 28/07/2009 00:36:52 GMT Daylight Time, healeyrick at yahoo.com writes: Ferrari to ever hit the road. C'mon guys, we're comparing hammer and anvil tech to Formula One engineering, here From jfishbein at snet.net Tue Jul 28 11:21:39 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] The Red Cars Message-ID: <67873.40007.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> You're also not factoring-in - extra show $ paid to Ferrari compared to any and all the other F1 teams, - Ferrari has veto power over rule-making, - and now -- tada! -- their former team principal Jean Todt is ready to be installed as President of the FIA. This is all real. Like they say, you can't make up stuff as fantastic as this. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT --- On Tue, 7/28/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Red Cars To: healeyrick at yahoo.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:56 PM But their F1 record isn't that fantastic when you consider their win record against their number of starts. From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Jul 28 12:39:40 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:39:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <81AB0F46-AA7C-4C5E-AFFF-5F6707B74445@comcast.net> References: <66114A7891444EABAB5ACA2985A8E528@MAINCOMPUTER> <81AB0F46-AA7C-4C5E-AFFF-5F6707B74445@comcast.net> Message-ID: <6DD46E24-49C1-4364-8ACC-EEC09E2F10FA@mac.com> Lester, As I recall the brake lines are double flares. I found a local parts house with the correct tool which they loaned me, I did buy all my lines from them. Be sure to cut your old lines and take the fittings off to use on the replacement lines. Those were the one thing that I was unable to find and were not the same as what was on the prefab lines that the parts house carried. You can then use the old lines to practice making the double flares. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Lester wrote: > I don't recall offhand what they have but my guess is that it's a > "bubble" or "European" flare. It's the first half of making a > double flare so you have the tool already! > > Lester > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Jim F. wrote: > >> I'm disassembling my 60 BE and I noticed how odd the brake line >> flares >> appeared. I assumed that I could go to my local NAPA and make new >> lines if >> needed. Now its obvious that I can't. What is the correct term for >> this type >> of flare? I have a double flaring tool but it appears that it won't >> help. are >> there adapters required or what?? >> >> Thanks >> J >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 12:44:41 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <1248734504.24384.32.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 7/27/09, mike rambour wrote: > No they don't !!! the biker chicks can't afford the larger > yahoo's, > best they can afford is more tattoo's. Come to think You guys don't hang out with many doctors, do you? Often times boob jobs are worked off in trade rather than paid for in cash. Ron From bighealey at charter.net Tue Jul 28 12:50:45 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:50:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <6DD46E24-49C1-4364-8ACC-EEC09E2F10FA@mac.com> Message-ID: <20090728145045.EIF4K.2531634.root@mp14> Why not just buy the lines already flared? ---- Kitterer Bob wrote: > Lester, > > As I recall the brake lines are double flares. I found a local parts > house with the correct tool which they loaned me, I did buy all my > lines from them. Be sure to cut your old lines and take the fittings > off to use on the replacement lines. Those were the one thing that I > was unable to find and were not the same as what was on the prefab > lines that the parts house carried. You can then use the old lines to > practice making the double flares. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Lester wrote: > > > I don't recall offhand what they have but my guess is that it's a > > "bubble" or "European" flare. It's the first half of making a > > double flare so you have the tool already! > > > > Lester > > > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Jim F. wrote: > > > >> I'm disassembling my 60 BE and I noticed how odd the brake line > >> flares > >> appeared. I assumed that I could go to my local NAPA and make new > >> lines if > >> needed. Now its obvious that I can't. What is the correct term for > >> this type > >> of flare? I have a double flaring tool but it appears that it won't > >> help. are > >> there adapters required or what?? > >> > >> Thanks > >> J > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> > >> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > >> > >> http://www.team.net/archive > >> > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Tue Jul 28 12:54:38 2009 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:54:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <6DD46E24-49C1-4364-8ACC-EEC09E2F10FA@mac.com> Message-ID: <20090728185440.1377722E1E9@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> They are not double flares. They are bubble flairs. Two different animals. Also bubble flairs are not the first step of a double flair. Get the correct tool please. Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:40 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake line flares Lester, As I recall the brake lines are double flares. I found a local parts house with the correct tool which they loaned me, I did buy all my lines from them. Be sure to cut your old lines and take the fittings off to use on the replacement lines. Those were the one thing that I was unable to find and were not the same as what was on the prefab lines that the parts house carried. You can then use the old lines to practice making the double flares. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Lester wrote: > I don't recall offhand what they have but my guess is that it's a > "bubble" or "European" flare. It's the first half of making a > double flare so you have the tool already! > > Lester > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Jim F. wrote: > >> I'm disassembling my 60 BE and I noticed how odd the brake line >> flares >> appeared. I assumed that I could go to my local NAPA and make new >> lines if >> needed. Now its obvious that I can't. What is the correct term for >> this type >> of flare? I have a double flaring tool but it appears that it won't >> help. are >> there adapters required or what?? >> >> Thanks >> J >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as hgmiller3 at qwest.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 12:58:40 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:58:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <9ED77682-ADAC-414B-ADA2-3F899C38998D@comcast.net> DAMNIT! And I coulda been an RD rather than a Dentist... Lester On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, mike rambour wrote: >> No they > don't !!! the biker chicks can't afford the larger >> yahoo's, >> best they can > afford is more tattoo's. Come to think > > You guys don't hang out with many > doctors, do you? Often times boob jobs are worked off in trade > rather than > paid for in cash. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jul 28 13:05:31 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:05:31 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <9ED77682-ADAC-414B-ADA2-3F899C38998D@comcast.net> References: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ED77682-ADAC-414B-ADA2-3F899C38998D@comcast.net> Message-ID: I'm scared to ask ... What is an RD in this context? > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:58:40 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > DAMNIT! And I coulda been an RD rather than a Dentist... > > Lester > > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, mike rambour wrote: > >> No they > > don't !!! the biker chicks can't afford the larger > >> yahoo's, > >> best they can > > afford is more tattoo's. Come to think > > > > You guys don't hang out with many > > doctors, do you? Often times boob jobs are worked off in trade > > rather than > > paid for in cash. > > > > Ron From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 13:06:33 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:06:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <9ED77682-ADAC-414B-ADA2-3F899C38998D@comcast.net> References: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ED77682-ADAC-414B-ADA2-3F899C38998D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907281206h455ba06am5d5bba3b4f52aeda@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, all you got to 'play' with were teeth! On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Lester wrote: > DAMNIT! And I coulda been an RD rather than a Dentist... > > Lester > > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, mike rambour wrote: >> >>> No they >>> >> don't !!! the biker chicks can't afford the larger >> >>> yahoo's, >>> best they can >>> >> afford is more tattoo's. Come to think >> >> You guys don't hang out with many >> doctors, do you? Often times boob jobs are worked off in trade rather than >> paid for in cash. >> >> Ron From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 13:09:54 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:09:54 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: References: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ED77682-ADAC-414B-ADA2-3F899C38998D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907281209m28797acct984d08a8d1e6d0de@mail.gmail.com> Rectum Doctor.... On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:05 PM, wrote: > I'm scared to ask ... What is an RD in this context? > > > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > > From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:58:40 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner > > > > DAMNIT! And I coulda been an RD rather than a Dentist... > > > > Lester > > > > > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > > > > --- On Mon, 7/27/09, mike rambour wrote: > > >> No they > > > don't !!! the biker chicks can't afford the larger > > >> yahoo's, > > >> best they can > > > afford is more tattoo's. Come to think > > > > > > You guys don't hang out with many > > > doctors, do you? Often times boob jobs are worked off in trade > > > rather than > > > paid for in cash. > > > > > > Ron From mikey at b2systems.com Tue Jul 28 13:16:23 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:16:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1248808583.24384.43.camel@WebBrowser> On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 11:44 -0700, Ron Soave wrote: > You guys don't hang out with many > doctors, do you? Often times boob jobs are worked off in trade rather than > paid for in cash. > > Ron You mean my wife could have had a Ferrari chick sized pair this whole time I was too cheap to buy them...oh wait, I think you are not talking automotive mechanical work in trade...ok never mind then. Wait, what kind of trade, might be worth it ? nah she is getting too old to accessorize now, I will keep her the way she is. Mike p.s. just in case my wife reads this...yes, I really am looking forward to another 32 years (or more) with you. From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jul 28 13:25:42 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 12:25:42 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: <1248808583.24384.43.camel@WebBrowser> References: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1248808583.24384.43.camel@WebBrowser> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10907281225w805b497p2b104567bfb768eb@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, if she sees this your a** is the grass and she's the lawn mower!!! 32 years...congratulations. On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:16 PM, mike rambour wrote: > On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 11:44 -0700, Ron Soave wrote: > > You guys don't hang out with many > > doctors, do you? Often times boob jobs are worked off in trade rather > than > > paid for in cash. > > > > Ron > > You mean my wife could have had a Ferrari chick sized pair this whole > time I was too cheap to buy them...oh wait, I think you are not talking > automotive mechanical work in trade...ok never mind then. > > Wait, what kind of trade, might be worth it ? nah she is getting too > old to accessorize now, I will keep her the way she is. > > Mike > > p.s. just in case my wife reads this...yes, I really am looking forward > to another 32 years (or more) with you. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 13:28:53 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:28:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <20090728185440.1377722E1E9@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> References: <20090728185440.1377722E1E9@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <94EFD329-7612-47E5-B033-42D21E3F922E@comcast.net> Let me direct you to the following: http://www.fedhillusa.com/?page=tool%20directions1#tool%20directons1 This is how Fedhill makes DIN/ISO bubble flares, the first part of making a double flare. Lester On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Herbert Miller wrote: > They are not double flares. They are bubble flairs. Two different > animals. > > Also bubble flairs are not the first step of a double flair. > > > > Get the correct tool please. > > Herb Miller From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 13:29:44 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:29:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner In-Reply-To: References: <265517.46258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ED77682-ADAC-414B-ADA2-3F899C38998D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <471468B8-08E8-4682-B0A8-2F2F78AFBCC6@comcast.net> "Real Doc " Lester On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:05 PM, wrote: > I'm scared to ask ... What is an RD in this context? > >> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net >> From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net >> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:58:40 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to piss of a Ferrari Owner >> >> DAMNIT! And I coulda been an RD rather than a Dentist... >> >> Lester >> >> >> On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Ron Soave wrote: >> >>> --- On Mon, 7/27/09, mike rambour wrote: >>>> No they >>> don't !!! the biker chicks can't afford the larger >>>> yahoo's, >>>> best they can >>> afford is more tattoo's. Come to think >>> >>> You guys don't hang out with many >>> doctors, do you? Often times boob jobs are worked off in trade >>> rather than >>> paid for in cash. >>> >>> Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 13:31:54 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:31:54 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugey heater blower, it's harness, and the firewall. In-Reply-To: References: <4A6E7070.8050105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A6F522A.5080308@comcast.net> Dean Hedin wrote: > I think hole #2 was unused and filled with a blanking grommet (at > least for US cars) > > Yes, antennae wire hole for optional radio. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jul 28 14:58:18 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:58:18 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares References: <20090728185440.1377722E1E9@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <94EFD329-7612-47E5-B033-42D21E3F922E@comcast.net> Message-ID: For what I consider to be the best tool to make brake flares have a look at eBay 260451917370 . It is only up for 1 more day but for me, that kit is probably the best you can get. No longer sold, Sykes Pickavance (now SP Tools) have moved on to different designs. No other interest etc. I've already got one and had it for the past 30 odd years! Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" Cc: "spridgets Spridgets -" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake line flares > Let me direct you to the following: > > http://www.fedhillusa.com/?page=tool%20directions1#tool%20directons1 > > This is how Fedhill makes DIN/ISO bubble flares, the first part of making > a double flare. > > Lester From bighealey at charter.net Tue Jul 28 15:03:59 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:03:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <20090728185440.1377722E1E9@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <20090728170359.IQAXM.2543148.root@mp17> Again A complete line set is only $130 from Moss. Individual lines for about 15 bucks. ---- Herbert Miller wrote: > They are not double flares. They are bubble flairs. Two different animals. > > Also bubble flairs are not the first step of a double flair. > > > > Get the correct tool please. > > Herb Miller > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:40 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake line flares > > > > Lester, > > > > As I recall the brake lines are double flares. I found a local parts > > house with the correct tool which they loaned me, I did buy all my > > lines from them. Be sure to cut your old lines and take the fittings > > off to use on the replacement lines. Those were the one thing that I > > was unable to find and were not the same as what was on the prefab > > lines that the parts house carried. You can then use the old lines to > > practice making the double flares. > > > > Bob Kitterer > > > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Lester wrote: > > > > > I don't recall offhand what they have but my guess is that it's a > > > "bubble" or "European" flare. It's the first half of making a > > > double flare so you have the tool already! > > > > > > Lester > > > > > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Jim F. wrote: > > > > > >> I'm disassembling my 60 BE and I noticed how odd the brake line > > >> flares > > >> appeared. I assumed that I could go to my local NAPA and make new > > >> lines if > > >> needed. Now its obvious that I can't. What is the correct term for > > >> this type > > >> of flare? I have a double flaring tool but it appears that it won't > > >> help. are > > >> there adapters required or what?? > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> J > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > >> > > >> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > >> > > >> http://www.team.net/archive > > >> > > >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > You are subscribed as hgmiller3 at qwest.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 15:32:03 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:32:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: References: <20090728185440.1377722E1E9@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <94EFD329-7612-47E5-B033-42D21E3F922E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <67CBEE20-3858-4F8B-9356-5A7B2EEFC587@comcast.net> This is the one I use, I'm certain that it wasn't that expensive when I bought it but it wasn't cheap either: http://store.fedhillusa.com/007bbrakelineflaringtool.aspx and there is a similar one on eBay now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300332009724 also a Sykes-Pickavance but the predecessor of the FedHill unit.. Lester On Jul 28, 2009, at 3:58 PM, GUY DAY wrote: > For what I consider to be the best tool to make brake flares have a > look at eBay 260451917370 . It is only up for 1 more day but > for me, that kit is probably the best you can get. No longer sold, > Sykes Pickavance (now SP Tools) have moved on to different designs. > No other interest etc. I've already got one and had it for the past > 30 odd years! > > Guy R Day > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" > Cc: "spridgets Spridgets -" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake line flares > > >> Let me direct you to the following: >> >> http://www.fedhillusa.com/?page=tool%20directions1#tool%20directons1 >> >> This is how Fedhill makes DIN/ISO bubble flares, the first part of >> making a double flare. >> >> Lester From jimndi at frontiernet.net Tue Jul 28 15:36:55 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:36:55 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery switch? Message-ID: <1ADDF7471F5D433AB40FB7F196638B23@MAINCOMPUTER> When I removed the Dashboard I found a slide switch that looks original centered directly under the speedometer. What the heck is it for???????? J From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 15:38:53 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:38:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery switch? In-Reply-To: <1ADDF7471F5D433AB40FB7F196638B23@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <1ADDF7471F5D433AB40FB7F196638B23@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: Dashlights, on and off.. no pesky dimmer! Lester On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Jim F. wrote: > When I removed the Dashboard I found a slide switch that looks > original > centered directly under the speedometer. What the heck is it > for???????? > > J > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 17:33:41 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery switch? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <503493.95798.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That's because the dimmer function is built in to the system already, operates on its own schedule and therefore does not require a manual control. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Lester wrote: From: Lester Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Mystery switch? To: "Jim F." Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 4:38 PM Dashlights, on and off.. no pesky dimmer! Lester On Jul 28, 2009, at 4:36 PM, Jim F. wrote: > When I removed the Dashboard I found a slide switch that looks original > centered directly under the speedometer. What the heck is it for???????? > > J > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 19:14:20 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... Message-ID: <639893.82738.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> BillM came over and did the final tuning on my Midget after all the work that was done at N.O.S.H.I.T. II to get my engine in. He's amazingly generous with his time when it comes to helping others out. The car is now a runner! (Although I can't go faster than 35mph because of the crappy U-Joints). A simple fix. Otherwise, it's awesome. I can't thank him and everyone else enough. I can't wait to pay it back to others in my position. Motor on y'all! Ed and Amanda and family..... From nases at verizon.net Tue Jul 28 19:33:09 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:33:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... In-Reply-To: <639893.82738.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <639893.82738.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <388D94C5-14F4-4FC8-BD23-74FB9DBD06E5@verizon.net> On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > crappy U-Joints). A simple fix. _________________________________________________ Not when I do it, it's not;) Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 19:41:48 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:41:48 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugey heater blower, it's harness, and the firewall. References: <4A6E7070.8050105@comcast.net> <4A6F522A.5080308@comcast.net> Message-ID: There we go. Thanks. I was also thinking that it might have been for that other heater option that they had. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank" To: "Dean Hedin" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugey heater blower, it's harness, and the firewall. > Dean Hedin wrote: >> I think hole #2 was unused and filled with a blanking grommet (at >> least for US cars) >> >> > Yes, antennae wire hole for optional radio. From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Jul 28 17:11:02 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:11:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <20090728145045.EIF4K.2531634.root@mp14> References: <20090728145045.EIF4K.2531634.root@mp14> Message-ID: <2B30E561-B7C8-4921-B63D-2AD44E67F6E9@mac.com> At the time I redid my car the fittings on pre-made line from the local parts house did match fit the wheel / master cylinders on the car. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jul 28, 2009, at 11:50 AM, bighealey at charter.net wrote: > Why not just buy the lines already flared? > > ---- Kitterer Bob wrote: >> Lester, >> >> As I recall the brake lines are double flares. I found a local parts >> house with the correct tool which they loaned me, I did buy all my >> lines from them. Be sure to cut your old lines and take the fittings >> off to use on the replacement lines. Those were the one thing that I >> was unable to find and were not the same as what was on the prefab >> lines that the parts house carried. You can then use the old lines >> to >> practice making the double flares. >> >> Bob Kitterer >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >> 2000 Miata Special Edition >> >> On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:06 AM, Lester wrote: >> >>> I don't recall offhand what they have but my guess is that it's a >>> "bubble" or "European" flare. It's the first half of making a >>> double flare so you have the tool already! >>> >>> Lester >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Jim F. wrote: >>> >>>> I'm disassembling my 60 BE and I noticed how odd the brake line >>>> flares >>>> appeared. I assumed that I could go to my local NAPA and make new >>>> lines if >>>> needed. Now its obvious that I can't. What is the correct term for >>>> this type >>>> of flare? I have a double flaring tool but it appears that it won't >>>> help. are >>>> there adapters required or what?? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> J >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net >>>> >>>> http://www.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com >>> >>> http://www.team.net/archive >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jul 28 20:41:53 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:41:53 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... In-Reply-To: <388D94C5-14F4-4FC8-BD23-74FB9DBD06E5@verizon.net> References: <639893.82738.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <388D94C5-14F4-4FC8-BD23-74FB9DBD06E5@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4A6FB6F1.5040300@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > On Jul 28, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > >> crappy U-Joints). A simple fix. > _________________________________________________ > Not when I do it, it's not;) If you think fixing U joints are simple, I have 6 or 8 drive shafts with crappy U joints I will gladly let you fix for me. ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Tue Jul 28 20:39:05 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (ldsp) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:39:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake line flares In-Reply-To: <94EFD329-7612-47E5-B033-42D21E3F922E@comcast.net> References: <20090728185440.1377722E1E9@mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net> <94EFD329-7612-47E5-B033-42D21E3F922E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <51586CD3717640C9BA2559333FF8DE47@CatheyBPC> A ISO bubble flare is NOT half of a double flare!!!! The angles and final shape are TOTALLY different. As far as making half of a double flare work in its place I am sure it can be done but I value my car and MY LIFE more than to trust it. Leo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" Cc: "spridgets Spridgets -" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake line flares > Let me direct you to the following: > > http://www.fedhillusa.com/?page=tool%20directions1#tool%20directons1 > > This is how Fedhill makes DIN/ISO bubble flares, the first part of making > a double flare. > > Lester > > > On Jul 28, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Herbert Miller wrote: > >> They are not double flares. They are bubble flairs. Two different >> animals. >> >> Also bubble flairs are not the first step of a double flair. >> >> >> >> Get the correct tool please. >> >> Herb Miller > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jul 28 20:42:15 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... In-Reply-To: <639893.82738.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <639893.82738.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1456761793.20090728194215@pacifier.com> Hello Edward, Simple to take it out and take it to a driveline shop. may as well have it balanced at the same time... total cost of 2 u joints installed and driveline balanced is less than any amount of frustration... and Yeah, Bill M. is aces! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" He who loses his head is usually the last one to miss it. From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 20:45:26 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:45:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... In-Reply-To: <388D94C5-14F4-4FC8-BD23-74FB9DBD06E5@verizon.net> Message-ID: <428078.2993.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Phil Nase wrote: > > crappy U-Joints). A simple fix. > _________________________________________________ > Not when I do it, it's not;) Amen. I now put this one with the "$35 to change the windshield seal" fix - someone else does it. $60 + parts for blasted, painted, BALANCED shaft ready to bolt in. Ron From billmasq at hotmail.com Tue Jul 28 20:51:50 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:51:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... In-Reply-To: <1456761793.20090728194215@pacifier.com> References: <639893.82738.qm@web33703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1456761793.20090728194215@pacifier.com> Message-ID: ... and now if we could EVER get your new windshield put on....!!! > Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:42:15 -0700 > From: pythias at pacifier.com > To: eap2140 at yahoo.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... > > Hello Edward, > > Simple to take it out and take it to a driveline shop. may as > well have it balanced at the same time... total cost of 2 u > joints installed and driveline balanced is less than any amount > of frustration... > > and Yeah, Bill M. is aces! > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > He who loses his head is usually the last one to miss it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the webs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From eap2140 at yahoo.com Tue Jul 28 22:20:46 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... In-Reply-To: <428078.2993.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <428078.2993.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <929838.60475.qm@web33704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> it's already been blasted, balanced and painted... dunno why the U-Joints are shot.... nasty vibration at 35mph. ________________________________ From: Ron Soave To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:45:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Phil Nase wrote: > > crappy U-Joints). A simple fix. > _________________________________________________ > Not when I do it, it's not;) Amen. I now put this one with the "$35 to change the windshield seal" fix - someone else does it. $60 + parts for blasted, painted, BALANCED shaft ready to bolt in. Ron You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jul 29 08:20:45 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:20:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine transport help? Message-ID: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> Hi all, i am trying to purchase an engine from Kewaunee, WI and I'm in Shreveport, LA. I'm hoping to put together transport or a chain of folks in the area who are willing to move it a few miles.. Any thoughts or help appreciated! Lester From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jul 29 08:38:31 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:38:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine transport help? In-Reply-To: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> References: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A705EE7.2070400@wi.net> Lester, I'm working on it will keep you posted! Dave W. 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 Burlington WI Lester wrote: > Hi all, > > i am trying to purchase an engine from Kewaunee, WI and I'm in > Shreveport, LA. I'm hoping to put together transport or a chain of > folks in the area who are willing to move it a few miles.. > > Any thoughts or help appreciated! > > Lester From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jul 29 10:38:58 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:38:58 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine transport help? In-Reply-To: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> References: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200907290739668.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> There's the Elkhart Lake Vintage Fall Festival September 11-13, followed by the MGT GOF in Sheboygan the Monday through Thursday (?) following, Followed by the SCCA runoffs at Elkhart Lake Road America. That's a LOT of people from all over the country coming to, and returning from the area in 2 weeks. Try the racing fora? Peter C. ==== At 07:20 AM 7/29/2009, you wrote: >Hi all, > >i am trying to purchase an engine from Kewaunee, WI and I'm in >Shreveport, LA. I'm hoping to put together transport or a chain of >folks in the area who are willing to move it a few miles.. > >Any thoughts or help appreciated! > >Lester Peter Caldwell World Wide Auto Parts of Madison 2517 Seiferth Rd. Madison WI 53716-3302 N.A. (800) 362-1025 (608) 223-9400 (608) 223-9403 fax www.nosimport.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jul 29 08:44:49 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:44:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine transport help? In-Reply-To: <200907290739668.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> <200907290739668.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4A706061.10701@wi.net> Good point Peter! If you get it sooner Lester, we can work something out. Dave W. Oops, meant to "reply all"...sorry Peter. Peter Caldwell wrote: > There's the Elkhart Lake Vintage Fall Festival September 11-13, > followed by the MGT GOF in Sheboygan the Monday through Thursday (?) > following, Followed by the SCCA runoffs at Elkhart Lake Road America. > > That's a LOT of people from all over the country coming to, and > returning from the area in 2 weeks. > > Try the racing fora? > > Peter C. > > ==== > At 07:20 AM 7/29/2009, you wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> i am trying to purchase an engine from Kewaunee, WI and I'm in >> Shreveport, LA. I'm hoping to put together transport or a chain of >> folks in the area who are willing to move it a few miles.. >> >> Any thoughts or help appreciated! >> >> Lester > > Peter Caldwell > World Wide Auto Parts of Madison > 2517 Seiferth Rd. > Madison WI 53716-3302 > N.A. (800) 362-1025 > (608) 223-9400 > (608) 223-9403 fax > > www.nosimport.com From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 08:45:23 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 07:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine transport help? In-Reply-To: <4A705EE7.2070400@wi.net> References: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> <4A705EE7.2070400@wi.net> Message-ID: <42597.88791.qm@web33706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In the past, I've used uship.com to move things. You post how much you are willing to pay, and people bid on it. It works out great. I got a bunch of furniture moved from southern CA to Seattle for $300. The site uses feedback and you can confirm and decline offers. Check it out..... Edward ________________________________ From: David Woerpel To: Lester Cc: spridgets - Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:38:31 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Engine transport help? Lester, I'm working on it will keep you posted! Dave W. 59 :{) 59 MGA 1500 Burlington WI Lester wrote: > Hi all, > > i am trying to purchase an engine from Kewaunee, WI and I'm in Shreveport, LA. I'm hoping to put together transport or a chain of folks in the area who are willing to move it a few miles.. > > Any thoughts or help appreciated! > > Lester You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From hammack at gotslack.org Wed Jul 29 08:54:30 2009 From: hammack at gotslack.org (hammack) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 09:54:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 67 Midget for parts In-Reply-To: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> References: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20090729145430.M87861@gotslack.org> I have a '67 Midget parts car that I need to get rid of before I move in a month. It has a well-running 1275 that was rebuilt prior to Hurricane Katrina (2005). The car did not flood, but had a small tree fall on it and has been neglected since. (I'm on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.) Transmission is good and the clutch and front springs were replaced when the engine was rebuilt. The body is shot. I have a few new parts that were never installed - rear springs, some radiator hoses, etc. You can see pictures at http://gotslack.org/hammack/67midget.html I can borrow a trailer to move the car a relatively short distance (south LA, MS, AL, FL.) Any interest? I'd hate for it to go to the crusher. Jim From frogeye at cox.net Wed Jul 29 09:13:47 2009 From: frogeye at cox.net (frogeye) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:13:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Pretty decent solid tub available--1970 vintage Message-ID: I currently have a nice tub here that has had the floors redone and pretty damn solid overall It comes with a disc brake complete front end and rear end banjo as well, complete It's a non roller right now but can be made a roller easily If the least bit interested contact me offline please I hate to cut this one up Thanks From d.swanson at earthlink.net Wed Jul 29 09:19:19 2009 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:19:19 -0400 (GMT-04:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: 67 Midget for parts Message-ID: <5423647.1248880759661.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Send it to Lester: "Hi all, i am trying to purchase an engine from Kewaunee, WI and I'm in Shreveport, LA. I'm hoping to put together transport or a chain of folks in the area who are willing to move it a few miles.. Any thoughts or help appreciated! Lester" -----Forwarded Message----- >From: hammack >Sent: Jul 29, 2009 10:54 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: [Spridgets] 67 Midget for parts > > I have a '67 Midget parts car that I need to get rid of before I move in a >month. It has a well-running 1275 that was rebuilt prior to Hurricane Katrina >(2005). The car did not flood, but had a small tree fall on it and has been >neglected since. (I'm on the Mississippi Gulf Coast.) > > Transmission is good and the clutch and front springs were replaced when the >engine was rebuilt. The body is shot. I have a few new parts that were never >installed - rear springs, some radiator hoses, etc. > > You can see pictures at http://gotslack.org/hammack/67midget.html > > I can borrow a trailer to move the car a relatively short distance (south >LA, MS, AL, FL.) > > Any interest? I'd hate for it to go to the crusher. > > Jim >_______________________________________________ From frogeye at cox.net Wed Jul 29 09:40:58 2009 From: frogeye at cox.net (frogeye) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:40:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] tub location Message-ID: <78E943BA2C074CD1B4C59F192E0A917E@maind> The tub is located in Rhode Island sorry From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jul 29 10:17:07 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:17:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine transport help? In-Reply-To: <4A706061.10701@wi.net> References: <98D02CBA-2251-4775-B15C-55859792DE10@comcast.net> <200907290739668.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <4A706061.10701@wi.net> Message-ID: <93E0636C-DA63-4322-BF32-953536AC9735@comcast.net> Thanks guys! Things are moving along much faster than expected! I'll keep ya posted. Lester On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:44 AM, David Woerpel wrote: > Good point Peter! If you get it sooner Lester, we can work > something out. > Dave W. > > > Peter Caldwell wrote: >> There's the Elkhart Lake Vintage Fall Festival September 11-13, >> followed by the MGT GOF in Sheboygan the Monday through Thursday >> (?) following, Followed by the SCCA runoffs at Elkhart Lake Road >> America. >> >> That's a LOT of people from all over the country coming to, and >> returning from the area in 2 weeks. >> >> Try the racing fora? >> >> Peter C. >> >> ==== >> At 07:20 AM 7/29/2009, you wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> i am trying to purchase an engine from Kewaunee, WI and I'm in >>> Shreveport, LA. I'm hoping to put together transport or a chain of >>> folks in the area who are willing to move it a few miles.. >>> >>> Any thoughts or help appreciated! >>> >>> Lester From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jul 29 10:57:09 2009 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:57:09 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Books Message-ID: ...Bobby gunned the little flat head coupe as Liz's hand tightened against the seat. They knew tonight would be the end of their troubles with Butch and his black F.I. Chevy. ... (which Felsen spelled as "Chevvy" if I recall correctly) >From: "Wm. Severin Thompson" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The Red Car and camshaft To: "'Ron Soave'" , "'Spridgets'" Message-ID: <001701ca0e00$9dcbabc0$d9630340$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I recently found a book on the giveaway pile at the local library by author Henry Gregor Felsen, and it brought back memories of all his car related novels I read as a kid. From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jul 29 11:26:10 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:26:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Beep Beep... Message-ID: <4A7023C2.24960.98F9AC@kk7ss.verizon.net> The beast didn't have any horn when I got it.... After reading all the emails about this horn, that horn, the other horn, etc, I went to my local friendly independant auto repair shop and they let me try all the horns on the cars in the shop... I settled for a pair of generic Lexus replacements. I fitted them yesterday... The beast *will* be noticed now -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 29 11:54:48 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:54:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Beep Beep... In-Reply-To: <4A7023C2.24960.98F9AC@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A7023C2.24960.98F9AC@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <9272B57C59504E95BDE5A8E57191B229@spider> Be careful; some startled drivers are bigger than others. ...bill in oregon ================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:26 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Beep Beep... The beast didn't have any horn when I got it.... After reading all the emails about this horn, that horn, the other horn, etc, I went to my local friendly independant auto repair shop and they let me try all the horns on the cars in the shop... I settled for a pair of generic Lexus replacements. I fitted them yesterday... The beast *will* be noticed now -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA From haynes386 at netzero.net Wed Jul 29 12:04:09 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:04:09 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... Message-ID: <20090729.120409.20865.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Edward- Check to make sure that you have your u-joints clocked correctly at the spline joint. the 'fixed' portions should be 180 degrees offset. Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Self-Employed? Need a Health Plan? Click here to get self-employed health insurance. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxQw18KtoUf9MRbMBxDOhJmAP m83TURIx86cex6pkiJ0JbKeCX54mE/ From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jul 29 12:38:21 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:38:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special tool?? Fun stufff Message-ID: <4A70971D.9070109@wi.net> Ron, this in your hood. Go to eBay item # Z230360840282 The second picture. Under the car is obviously a wooden handled special tool. I can't find it in any of the shop manuals and am curious as to its function on a Sprite/Midget. Perhaps a new brake bleed tool?? ;-) OK, back to work. Dave W. From 72spridget at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 12:38:56 2009 From: 72spridget at gmail.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:38:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... In-Reply-To: <20090729.120409.20865.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> References: <20090729.120409.20865.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <402188520907291138l5e96b66cvfcc6260488a9c712@mail.gmail.com> 2009/7/29 Mark Haynes : > Edward- Check to make sure that you have your u-joints clocked correctly at > the spline joint. the 'fixed' portions should be 180 degrees offset. On A-Series Spridgets you don't have a whole lot of choice in the matter... David L From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jul 29 12:45:39 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:45:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] another ebay... :-) Message-ID: <4A7098D3.9010104@wi.net> Sorry to take up list room but it mus be wacko eBay day. #270431123812. Scroll down to the 2nd engine bay picture. Do I have my monitor upside down or is this an Australian car?(no offense mates) He says he tried to start the car. That would be interesting me-thinks. Dave W. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 29 13:04:41 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:04:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] another ebay... :-) In-Reply-To: <4A7098D3.9010104@wi.net> Message-ID: > 270431123812 You didn't read far enough. > Yes, I know the CARBS are mounted upside down...many people have emailed > telling me that. They were in the trunk when I got the car to keep bad gas > from varnishing, and my worker installed them upside down, not knowing this. > Also, I am not parting out the car, so please stop asking if I will sell parts > off the car. From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Wed Jul 29 13:04:57 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:04:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Special tool?? Fun stufff In-Reply-To: <4A70971D.9070109@wi.net> References: <4A70971D.9070109@wi.net> Message-ID: <4A709D59.8050700@comcast.net> <> Clutch Slave Bleeder Tool, Dave !!!!!!! Doesn't the person you addressed the Original of this have a young man getting close to Driver's License age ??? !!!!! PPP From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jul 29 13:06:41 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:06:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] another ebay... :-) In-Reply-To: <4A7098D3.9010104@wi.net> References: <4A7098D3.9010104@wi.net> Message-ID: just think of it as an easy fix ... unless of course it ran in which case there's a research paper involved.. Lester .. and explains why the aircleaner assembly is still in the trunk.. On Jul 29, 2009, at 1:45 PM, David Woerpel wrote: > Sorry to take up list room but it mus be wacko eBay day. > #270431123812. Scroll down to the 2nd engine bay picture. Do I > have my monitor upside down or is this an Australian car?(no offense > mates) He says he tried to start the car. That would be > interesting me-thinks. > > Dave W. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From eap2140 at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 13:07:41 2009 From: eap2140 at yahoo.com (Edward Perez) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... In-Reply-To: <20090729.120409.20865.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> References: <20090729.120409.20865.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <993814.67569.qm@web33705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> An excellent point! I'll check on that. I don't recall having this prior to the rebuild, but it never really got above 35mph to begin with..... ________________________________ From: Mark Haynes To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 11:04:09 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] BillM strikes again... Edward- Check to make sure that you have your u-joints clocked correctly at the spline joint. the 'fixed' portions should be 180 degrees offset. Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Self-Employed? Need a Health Plan? Click here to get self-employed health insurance. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxQw18KtoUf9MRbMBxDOhJmAP m83TURIx86cex6pkiJ0JbKeCX54mE/ You are subscribed as eap2140 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 29 13:35:22 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:35:22 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] another ebay... :-) In-Reply-To: References: <4A7098D3.9010104@wi.net> Message-ID: I hope his worker doesn't double as a surgeon's assistant. ...bill in oregon ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:05 PM To: David Woerpel; SPRIDGETS Subject: Re: [Spridgets] another ebay... :-) > 270431123812 You didn't read far enough. > Yes, I know the CARBS are mounted upside down...many people have emailed > telling me that. They were in the trunk when I got the car to keep bad gas > from varnishing, and my worker installed them upside down, not knowing this. > Also, I am not parting out the car, so please stop asking if I will sell parts > off the car. ______________________________________________ From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Jul 29 14:05:36 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:05:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 79 Midget Message-ID: <4A70AB90.3020906@wi.net> Just stopped to look at a 1979 Midget. Maroon (Vermillion?) in color. Did not talk to owner. Seats are good for originals. Carpet worn. Dash NOT cracked! Instruments all there and the Odo shows 63k or 65k, can't remember exactly. Body straight, under body looks in great shape. Exhaust hangs a bit low. Paint is in good shape. Don't know about the top as it was stowed. Asking $5000 obo. Phone 262.210.0741 Car is near Waterford WI on St. Hwy. 36 and just north of St. Hwy. 164. Dave W. From grday at btinternet.com Wed Jul 29 14:35:44 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:35:44 +0100 Subject: [Spridgets] Special tool?? Fun stufff References: <4A70971D.9070109@wi.net> <4A709D59.8050700@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4DAD055D78844F3F8D54F3D4D4589A3C@dell330> Clears the fuel lines and can be used to pump fuel thru. You can learn so much on this forum ... LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "63ahbj7" <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> To: "David Woerpel" Cc: "SPRIDGETS" Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Special tool?? Fun stufff > < function on a Sprite/Midget. Perhaps a new brake bleed tool?? ;-) >> > > Clutch Slave Bleeder Tool, Dave !!!!!!! > > Doesn't the person you addressed the Original of this have a young man > getting close to > Driver's License age ??? > > !!!!! > > PPP > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jul 29 14:45:28 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:45:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget for Sale (San Jose CA) Message-ID: <20090729164528.FLPKN.2602297.root@mp18> Tons of pictures here: http://healey.org/content/view/477/249/ I have most of what is needed for a chrome bumper conversion. Includes a spare 1500 motor and misc road spares (extra new pertronics, hoses etc). Good points - smog exempt 1500 with Weber (titled as 74), everything new or rebuilt, Fiero seats, very strong, smoothe and reliable. I think this is fairly priced given the extent of the recent restoration. Tracy From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jul 29 14:47:32 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:47:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] another ebay... :-) In-Reply-To: <4A7098D3.9010104@wi.net> References: <4A7098D3.9010104@wi.net> Message-ID: No question. It is an Australian car. > Do I have my > monitor upside down or is this an Australian car From jimndi at frontiernet.net Wed Jul 29 15:28:51 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:28:51 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? Message-ID: <979A34E9F5EB49A081EB94CA63425F0E@MAINCOMPUTER> Well today I removed the steering colomn on my 60 BE and the round plastic piece immediately under the Steering wheel came out in pieces. I think its the horn contact ring but I can't get the steering wheel off. 40 years of rust I guess.Its currently soaking in pb blaster. Is this plastic part available anywhere and will a midget part work ?what years? Any advice will be appreciated. TNX. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 29 16:46:40 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:46:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: <979A34E9F5EB49A081EB94CA63425F0E@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: What kind of steering wheel puller are you using? From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Wed Jul 29 17:22:36 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:22:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: <979A34E9F5EB49A081EB94CA63425F0E@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <979A34E9F5EB49A081EB94CA63425F0E@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Jim F. wrote: Well today I removed the steering colomn on my 60 BE and the round plastic piece immediately under the Steering wheel came out in pieces. I think its the horn contact ring but I can't get the steering wheel off. 40 years of rust I guess.Its currently soaking in pb blaster. Is this plastic part available anywhere and will a midget part work ?what years? Any advice will be appreciated. TNX. The steering wheel plinth is NLA. No reproductions that I am aware of. The flatdash Sprite and Midgets all used the same thing. So, Bugeyes, MK II Sprites and MK I Midgets are donors. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 18:00:57 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] another ebay... :-) In-Reply-To: <4A7098D3.9010104@wi.net> Message-ID: <226113.87278.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 7/29/09, David Woerpel wrote: > the 2nd engine bay picture. Do I have my monitor > upside down or is this an Australian car?(no offense I think those are Suzuki Samurai carbs.... From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jul 29 18:08:23 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Special tool?? Fun stufff In-Reply-To: <4A70971D.9070109@wi.net> Message-ID: <796153.99635.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 7/29/09, David Woerpel wrote: > Ron, this in your hood. Go to > eBay item # Z230360840282 Right around the corner. Ron From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jul 29 19:22:17 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:22:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas Dizzy - 40767 Message-ID: <4A709359.16081.19F9728@kk7ss.verizon.net> I have finally found out that this dizzy is for a 850cc Mini engine running on leaded fuel. So I'm guessing it's a no-go for a 1275cc running unleaded! It has a leaking vacuum unit but is in very good condition otherwise. Does anybody have an interest in it before I put it on FleaBay?? Off-list replies will save boring uninterested parties.. ;-)) Thanks. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 29 19:41:58 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:41:58 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: References: <979A34E9F5EB49A081EB94CA63425F0E@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <4A70FA66.5060008@comcast.net> CosmicMag1380 wrote: > The steering wheel plinth is NLA. No reproductions that I am aware of. The > flatdash Sprite and Midgets all used the same thing. So, Bugeyes, MK II > Sprites and MK I Midgets are donors. > > Tony B from the Bugeye Barn in Australia has reproduced the horn plinths. http://www.bugeyebarn.com/html/s01_home/home.asp?dsb=1 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jul 29 19:59:37 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:59:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas Dizzy - 40767 In-Reply-To: <4A709359.16081.19F9728@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A709359.16081.19F9728@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4A70FE89.1010508@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > I have finally found out that this dizzy is for a 850cc Mini engine > running on leaded fuel. So I'm guessing it's a no-go for a 1275cc > running unleaded! > It has a leaking vacuum unit but is in very good condition otherwise. > It should be the same dizzy as a Sprite, maybe the advance curve is a little off but it would make a great spare to keep in the boot just in case. Set it up, try it out, then just keep it ready to drop in if your car dies on the side of the road. I keep a spare ready to go in each Sprite and the A40, so I really don't need a 5th spare, besides I have a milk crate full of dizzys that "need attention". -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ My own Fleet of Sprites From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 29 19:58:15 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:58:15 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Lucas Dizzy - 40767 In-Reply-To: <4A709359.16081.19F9728@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: > this dizzy is for a 850cc Mini engine > running on leaded fuel. So I'm guessing it's a no-go for a 1275cc > running unleaded! I don't think there's a difference except for the springs in the advances, which will be replaced when they rebuild it. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Jul 29 20:01:31 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:01:31 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: <4A70FA66.5060008@comcast.net> Message-ID: I love the word "plinth". The turntable guys say it a lot too. I was thinking about making one, since I don't actually need the horn contact. Plinth, plinth,...It's a happy sound. BZ From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Wed Jul 29 20:18:12 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:18:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A7102E4.8090605@comcast.net> << Plinth, plinth,...It's a happy sound. >> "Tune" now in the works, Billy ??? !! From millerls at ado13.com Wed Jul 29 22:13:50 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:13:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <72D2C5C7-FC37-428C-B1EC-A64557EB4537@ado13.com> BZ You may be weird.. On Jul 29, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > I love the word "plinth". > The turntable guys say it a lot too. > I was thinking about making one, since I don't actually need the horn > contact. > Plinth, plinth,...It's a happy sound. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Jul 29 23:44:03 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:44:03 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? References: <72D2C5C7-FC37-428C-B1EC-A64557EB4537@ado13.com> Message-ID: <7ECBA2B5A9B84BDA95A176151DEB4E3C@blackbox2> Yea, no doubt he likes escutcheons as well.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Billy Zoom" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn contact? > BZ You may be weird.. > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > >> I love the word "plinth". >> The turntable guys say it a lot too. >> I was thinking about making one, since I don't actually need the horn >> contact. >> Plinth, plinth,...It's a happy sound. >> BZ From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jul 29 23:56:09 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:56:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: <7ECBA2B5A9B84BDA95A176151DEB4E3C@blackbox2> References: , <7ECBA2B5A9B84BDA95A176151DEB4E3C@blackbox2> Message-ID: <4A70D389.29270.29A5425@kk7ss.verizon.net> Only if prepared by a Cordon Bleu Chef,,,, On 30 Jul 2009 at 1:44, Dean Hedin wrote: >> Yea, no doubt he likes escutcheons as well.. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 30 06:10:39 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (robertduquette at sympatico.ca) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:10:39 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: <72D2C5C7-FC37-428C-B1EC-A64557EB4537@ado13.com> References: <72D2C5C7-FC37-428C-B1EC-A64557EB4537@ado13.com> Message-ID: As weird as The Faces? ( "Around The Plynth/Gasoline Alley" ) > From: millerls at ado13.com > To: billyzoom at billyzoom.com > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:13:50 -0700 > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net; cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn contact? > > BZ You may be weird.. > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 7:01 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > > I love the word "plinth". > > The turntable guys say it a lot too. > > I was thinking about making one, since I don't actually need the horn > > contact. > > Plinth, plinth,...It's a happy sound. > > BZ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jimndi at frontiernet.net Thu Jul 30 08:03:52 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:03:52 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuborn Steering wheel Message-ID: <0E9ADC3F7783410E8F74256E541641B1@MAINCOMPUTER> I did as suggested and got a gear puller to try and remove my steering wheel. No Go. It is ripping the bottom of the wheel apart and it appears I will have to cut the wheel off and replace it . Any suggestions? TNX. J From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 30 09:08:59 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:08:59 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuborn Steering wheel In-Reply-To: <0E9ADC3F7783410E8F74256E541641B1@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: > I did as suggested and got a gear puller to try and remove my steering wheel. > No Go. It is ripping the bottom of the wheel apart and it appears I will have > to cut the wheel off and replace it . Any suggestions? Use a steering wheel puller. From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jul 30 09:16:29 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:16:29 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuborn Steering wheel In-Reply-To: References: <0E9ADC3F7783410E8F74256E541641B1@MAINCOMPUTER>, Message-ID: <4A7156DD.20066.37A756@kk7ss.verizon.net> In my case, what the list suggested and worked was 1) Spray liberally with PBBlaster 2) Try tightening the steering wheel nut to try and break the "age weld' 3) Back off the nut and then 4) Rap the column smartly with a BFH It worked for me... it might work for you.. On 30 Jul 2009 at 8:08, Billy Zoom wrote: >> > I did as suggested and got a gear puller to try and remove my >> > steering wheel. >> > No Go. It is ripping the bottom of the wheel apart and it appears I >> > will have to cut the wheel off and replace it . Any suggestions -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 09:29:45 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:29:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Stuborn Steering wheel In-Reply-To: <0E9ADC3F7783410E8F74256E541641B1@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <0E9ADC3F7783410E8F74256E541641B1@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <4333f8140907300829j23ca8734kc561d744edc72bb9@mail.gmail.com> Jim When I pulled the steering wheel on FROG AYE I made a special tool which consisted of a 4" x .25" steel plate with a 1.5" U-shaped hole cut in it and three .25" holes evenly spaced around it that were on a circle slightly larger than the steering wheel base. I can slip this plate behind the wheel and bolt a 3-pronged gear puller (the kind which bolts to the gear NOT with hooks that slide behind the gear) to the plate. This allowed me to pull on the wheel with no pressure points. It came right off. I'll lend you my special tool if you tell me where to send it. Hal On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Jim F. wrote: > I did as suggested and got a gear puller to try and remove my steering > wheel. > No Go. It is ripping the bottom of the wheel apart and it appears I will > have > to cut the wheel off and replace it . Any suggestions? > TNX. > J > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 30 09:41:11 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:41:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it Message-ID: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Last night I turned my clapped-out 1995 Nissan Quest with virtually no resale value, or endearing qualities, anymore (it WAS great) into $4500 against a Yaris. Was very smooth and easy. We started talking about the engine destruction they have to do. There'll be some good stories about that, when it's over, I bet. So far, and Civic is the winner, out of 20 they've done. Peter "just tryin' to stimulate" C. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jul 30 09:53:47 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:53:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <6FD5309D-33A7-4F7C-A10A-88D910E902A4@comcast.net> Just had a patient in here who sells to the dealers the stuff to destroy the engine, she says it takes 15 min and would not elaborate on what it is or how it works.. but that the dealer has a VERY limited time in which they have to destroy that engine! Lester On Jul 30, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Last night I turned my clapped-out 1995 Nissan Quest with virtually > no resale value, or endearing qualities, anymore (it WAS great) into > $4500 against a Yaris. > > Was very smooth and easy. > > We started talking about the engine destruction they have to do. > There'll be some good stories about that, when it's over, I bet. So > far, and Civic is the winner, out of 20 they've done. > > Peter "just tryin' to stimulate" C. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jul 30 09:58:46 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:58:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: References: <979A34E9F5EB49A081EB94CA63425F0E@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: AHSpares still lists the Bugeye steering wheel plinth in their on-line catalog. From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 30 10:03:53 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:03:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <6FD5309D-33A7-4F7C-A10A-88D910E902A4@comcast.net> References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <6FD5309D-33A7-4F7C-A10A-88D910E902A4@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200907300903424.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> They way it was described to me it consists of some silica and some other stuff. It sounded like Bentonite. The Civic made it 30 minutes, the chevy, 3. Peter = At 08:53 AM 7/30/2009, Lester wrote: >Just had a patient in here who sells to the dealers the stuff to >destroy the engine, she says it takes 15 min and would not elaborate >on what it is or how it works.. but that the dealer has a VERY limited >time in which they have to destroy that engine! > >Lester > > >On Jul 30, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > >>Last night I turned my clapped-out 1995 Nissan Quest with virtually >>no resale value, or endearing qualities, anymore (it WAS great) into >>$4500 against a Yaris. >> >>Was very smooth and easy. >> >>We started talking about the engine destruction they have to do. >>There'll be some good stories about that, when it's over, I bet. So >>far, and Civic is the winner, out of 20 they've done. >> >>Peter "just tryin' to stimulate" C. From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 10:53:20 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:53:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <200907300903424.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <6FD5309D-33A7-4F7C-A10A-88D910E902A4@comcast.net> <200907300903424.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: They way it was described to me it consists of some silica and some other stuff. It sounded like Bentonite. The Civic made it 30 minutes, the chevy, 3. I think that your dealer is going to be very surprised when they try to obtain the vouchers for the Civics... I couldn't find any Civics on the Fed's list that only got 18 MPG (combined EPA). Contrary to the government's normal way of doing business, they are really strict on the rules for this program. The dealers get a 165 page booklet that has everything that they must do and how to do it. Some of our local dealers started early and got bit in the a$$ because they didn't know/follow the rules and timelines. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jul 30 10:55:18 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 09:55:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <6FD5309D-33A7-4F7C-A10A-88D910E902A4@comcast.net> Message-ID: > destroy the engine, she says it takes 15 min That's not even close to my first wife's record. From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 30 11:06:38 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:06:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <6FD5309D-33A7-4F7C-A10A-88D910E902A4@comcast.net> <200907300903424.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <20090730100664.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> No, sorry YOU ARE CORRECT. But he did say Honda. But to think of it, I can't come up with a Honda at under 18MPG combined. Probably another lie he told me. He couldn't find the jack, either. And he said the 1.5 VVT-i engine designation stood for some fuel metering device, and that the reason the gauges are in the middle of the dash is so your line-of-sight is in line with the mirror. The guy was an idiot, but I like the car. I don't need a salesperson anyway. Peter ===== At 09:53 AM 7/30/2009, CosmicMag1380 wrote: >On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: >They way it was described to me it consists of some silica and some other >stuff. It sounded like Bentonite. The Civic made it 30 minutes, the chevy, >3. > >I think that your dealer is going to be very surprised when they try to >obtain the vouchers for the Civics... I couldn't find any Civics on the >Fed's list that only got 18 MPG (combined EPA). Contrary to the government's >normal way of doing business, they are really strict on the rules for this >program. The dealers get a 165 page booklet that has everything that they >must do and how to do it. Some of our local dealers started early and got >bit in the a$$ because they didn't know/follow the rules and timelines. > >-- >Kent >1960 Bugeye >1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Jul 30 11:20:32 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:20:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com><6FD5309D-33A7-4F7C-A10A-88D910E902A4@comcast.net><200907300903424.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <035c01ca113a$0b2aa540$1801010a@xp> 165 page "booklet"... This is how you can tell the government is involved. I'm pretty sure anyone on this list could have told them what to do and how to do it in 3 pages or less. Can't wait for gubment healthcare. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380 Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 12:53 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: They way it was described to me it consists of some silica and some other stuff. It sounded like Bentonite. The Civic made it 30 minutes, the chevy, 3. I think that your dealer is going to be very surprised when they try to obtain the vouchers for the Civics... I couldn't find any Civics on the Fed's list that only got 18 MPG (combined EPA). Contrary to the government's normal way of doing business, they are really strict on the rules for this program. The dealers get a 165 page booklet that has everything that they must do and how to do it. Some of our local dealers started early and got bit in the a$$ because they didn't know/follow the rules and timelines. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jul 30 11:26:16 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:26:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <035c01ca113a$0b2aa540$1801010a@xp> References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <6FD5309D-33A7-4F7C-A10A-88D910E902A4@comcast.net> <200907300903424.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <035c01ca113a$0b2aa540$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <20090730102649.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Ya know..... this wasn't political. The "booklet" actually spends most of its "energy" on trying to set up roadblocks to the kinds of buyers and dealers who want to scre....... take advantage of....... the system..... any system. At 10:20 AM 7/30/2009, you wrote: >165 page "booklet"... > >This is how you can tell the government is involved. I'm pretty sure anyone >on this list could have told them what to do and how to do it in 3 pages or >less. Can't wait for gubment healthcare. From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Jul 30 11:30:07 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:30:07 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Mech tach question Message-ID: <20090730.113007.14220.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Is there a difference other than the manufacturer for the early mechanical tachs, i.e. Jaeger vs Smiths in terms of the tach gear box ratio? My original goes weird and wobbly after 3000 R's and I was thinking of placing the face onto one from the MKII so that it looks correct AND works correctly. Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Free quotes fast! Get competitive rates on homeowner insurance. Click Now. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxUO1SE8cwcx1qucNbafFzVCh pmnTTRErA8i5pK8DGlgokabI20qcQ/ From jfishbein at snet.net Thu Jul 30 11:42:05 2009 From: jfishbein at snet.net (Jay Fishbein) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:42:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it Message-ID: <11118.43512.qm@web83905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> What I've read of the qualifiers struck me as pretty well thought-out to prevent abuse. If I didn't need my pickup I would drive my K1500 straight to the SMART dealer, assuming they were participating. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT 63 Sprite 61 Innocenti Spider 73 Morris Mini Van --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: From: Peter Caldwell Subject: Re: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it To: "Heard" Cc: "spridgets list" Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 1:26 PM Ya know..... this wasn't political. The "booklet" actually spends most of its "energy" on trying to set up roadblocks to the kinds of buyers and dealers who want to scre....... take advantage of....... the system..... any system. From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Jul 30 12:01:47 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:01:47 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <7lku3e$6i547c@email.mtu.edu> >Peter "just tryin' to stimulate" C. And, I'm glad to help you buy your new car, Peter. Just doin my part as a taxpayer, ya know. LOL Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jul 30 12:02:23 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:02:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <0375EA806F9643FFA169617D2A59D5C6@spider> The newspaper story I read was that they are supposed to drain the oil, fill it with silicon silicate and run it until it stops running. Problem is the junk yards are (supposedly) refusing to take them because their money (~600+) is all in the motor and transmission. ...bill in oregon =============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:41 AM To: spridgets list Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it Last night I turned my clapped-out 1995 Nissan Quest with virtually no resale value, or endearing qualities, anymore (it WAS great) into $4500 against a Yaris. Was very smooth and easy. We started talking about the engine destruction they have to do. There'll be some good stories about that, when it's over, I bet. So far, and Civic is the winner, out of 20 they've done. Peter "just tryin' to stimulate" C. _______________________________________________ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu Jul 30 12:02:25 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:02:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it Message-ID: <2569a01ca113f$e4e05780$116a010a@mail2world.com> I'm looking to do a similar thing with my old Ranger 4x4. The "new" EPA mileage calculations show a 16 combined, down from 18 using the old method. Going tonight to test drive a Honda Fit. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Jay Fishbein [jfishbein at snet.net] Sent: 7/30/2009 1:44:05 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it What I've read of the qualifiers struck me as pretty well thought-out to prevent abuse. If I didn't need my pickup I would drive my K1500 straight to the SMART dealer, assuming they were participating. Jay Fishbein Wallingford, CT 63 Sprite 61 Innocenti Spider 73 Morris Mini Van --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu Jul 30 12:03:24 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:03:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it Message-ID: <1c3ec01ca1140$0857c770$0168010a@mail2world.com> Ridgeline? Pilot? Passport (the old Isuzu rebadge)? Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Peter Caldwell [peter at nosimport.com] Sent: 7/30/2009 1:08:38 PM To: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com;spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it No, sorry YOU ARE CORRECT. But he did say Honda. But to think of it, I can't come up with a Honda at under 18MPG combined. Probably another lie he told me. He couldn't find the jack, either. And he said the 1.5 VVT-i engine designation stood for some fuel metering device, and that the reason the gauges are in the middle of the dash is so your line-of-sight is in line with the mirror. The guy was an idiot, but I like the car. I don't need a salesperson anyway. Peter ===== At 09:53 AM 7/30/2009, CosmicMag1380 wrote: >On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: >They way it was described to me it consists of some silica and some other >stuff. It sounded like Bentonite. The Civic made it 30 minutes, the chevy, >3. > >I think that your dealer is going to be very surprised when they try to >obtain the vouchers for the Civics... I couldn't find any Civics on the >Fed's list that only got 18 MPG (combined EPA). Contrary to the government's >normal way of doing business, they are really strict on the rules for this >program. The dealers get a 165 page booklet that has everything that they >must do and how to do it. Some of our local dealers started early and got >bit in the a$$ because they didn't know/follow the rules and timelines. > >-- >Kent >1960 Bugeye >1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 30 15:07:47 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:07:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Google 411 Information Message-ID: Google has come out with a free 411 phone information service. Say you are out of the office on a cell phone and you need to make a call, but you don't have the number. Dial 1-800-goog-411 (1-800-466-4411); give them the city and state, then give the name. They will find the number and connect you for free. No kidding, it works. I just used it to call my office. Larry From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu Jul 30 16:54:19 2009 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:54:19 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Google 411 Information In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200907302254.n6UMsbUF027248@mail.usimperio.com> You forgot the number at your office??? Have you been working there very long ???? Dave At 05:07 PM 7/30/2009, you wrote: >Google has come out with a free 411 phone information service. > >Say you are out of the office on a cell phone and you need to make a call, but >you don't have the number. > >Dial 1-800-goog-411 (1-800-466-4411); give them the city and state, then give >the name. They will find the number and connect you for free. > >No kidding, it works. I just used it to call my office. > > >Larry From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 30 17:06:33 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:06:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Google 411 Information References: <200907302254.n6UMsbUF027248@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <3CE555B0A7CE4E2AAF740C7EEC9E72B9@Larry> OK, all you smart asses... Buster beat you to the punch. He even suggested Alzheimer's as a contributing factor... which was terribly insensitive of him since my father died of Alzheimer's a couple of years ago. But I've learned to expect that kind of cruelty out of him. ;-)) I was testing the system. It worked. Now, I'm sorry it did. Ya bunch of jokers. I should have known better than to try to get this past you guys. Damn, I won't give you an edge next time. ;-)) LAD (going into hiding) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Yealy" To: Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Google 411 Information You forgot the number at your office??? Have you been working there very long ???? Dave At 05:07 PM 7/30/2009, you wrote: >Google has come out with a free 411 phone information service. > >Say you are out of the office on a cell phone and you need to make a call, >but >you don't have the number. > >Dial 1-800-goog-411 (1-800-466-4411); give them the city and state, then >give >the name. They will find the number and connect you for free. > >No kidding, it works. I just used it to call my office. > > >Larry You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jul 30 17:47:37 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <839433.20925.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: " Civic is the winner, out of 20 they've done." A Civic? I thought they were only supposed to take fuel inefficient cars in as trade. Seem to remember 18 mpg, but could be wrong. Wonder if the dealer screwed up or will somehow try to cook the books to cover their ignorance. I haven't owned anything with that kind of low mpg since my hotrod '67 Mustang which I sold 20 + years ago. ...OK, the beastly Corrado was probably down there or a bit worse but it was REALLY fun doing it. David Booker '71 Midget, '03 Protege5, '05 MiniCooper Long Island From duncan at pondhop.com Thu Jul 30 18:07:12 2009 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:07:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <839433.20925.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <839433.20925.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <009301ca1172$dadcfc60$9096f520$@com> Well y'all better be quick if you are going to do it. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=axu76hQpdRAA Looks like it is done from midnight tonight. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:48 PM To: spridgets list; Peter Caldwell Subject: Re: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: " Civic is the winner, out of 20 they've done." A Civic? I thought they were only supposed to take fuel inefficient cars in as trade. Seem to remember 18 mpg, but could be wrong. Wonder if the dealer screwed up or will somehow try to cook the books to cover their ignorance. I haven't owned anything with that kind of low mpg since my hotrod '67 Mustang which I sold 20 + years ago. ...OK, the beastly Corrado was probably down there or a bit worse but it was REALLY fun doing it. David Booker '71 Midget, '03 Protege5, '05 MiniCooper Long Island You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Jul 30 18:35:32 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Tim Collins) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:35:32 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Machine with oil Message-ID: <7ll0se$6ph960@email.mtu.edu> No LBC content, but you may think of your LBC while watching this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__GhJl_UQg0 Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 19:08:43 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:08:43 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Round the world midget driver might need help in Texas Message-ID: <8c1781040907301808l78fb2101k4cd5476169048c84@mail.gmail.com> Someone in texas want to reach out to this Midget driver http://bridgetthemidget.co.uk/2009/07/31/lone-star-country/ From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 19:22:45 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:22:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <009301ca1172$dadcfc60$9096f520$@com> References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <839433.20925.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <009301ca1172$dadcfc60$9096f520$@com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907301822s14dcf5fwb1e5a5d598220f51@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Duncan Sinclair wrote: > Well y'all better be quick if you are going to do it. > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=axu76hQpdRAA > Looks like it is done from midnight tonight. > I know the article says it's almost done but read it all the way thru and it sounds like they're only 10% of the way. "Earlier today, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which is running the program, said 22,782 vehicles worth $95.9 million had been sold." I think someone at Bloomberg doesn't understand the difference between 100 million and 1 BILLION. Or am I missing something?? From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Jul 30 19:43:16 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:43:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] C.A.R.S program... just did it In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0907301822s14dcf5fwb1e5a5d598220f51@mail.gmail.com> References: <200907300841346.SM01560@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> <839433.20925.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <009301ca1172$dadcfc60$9096f520$@com> <8de85a9c0907301822s14dcf5fwb1e5a5d598220f51@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0907301843r5cc82121ue53d86affede6461@mail.gmail.com> OK, apparently Bloomberg found they had a problem ... they've pulled most of the article now. Explanation from Yahoo Finance article (http://tinyurl.com/mdmk35): Through late Wednesday, 22,782 vehicles had been purchased through the program and nearly $96 million had been spent. But dealers raised concerns about large backlogs in the processing of the deals in the government system, prompting the suspension. A survey of 2,000 dealers by the National Automobile Dealers Association found about 25,000 deals had not yet approved by NHTSA, or nearly 13 trades per store. It raised concerns that with about 23,000 dealers taking part in the program, auto dealers may already have surpassed the 250,000 vehicle sales funded by the $1 billion program. "There's a significant backlog of 'cash for clunkers' deals that make us question how much funding is still available in the program," said Bailey Wood, a spokesman for the dealers association. From doug_altman at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 07:16:28 2009 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact? In-Reply-To: References: <979A34E9F5EB49A081EB94CA63425F0E@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <84829.1359.qm@web63508.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Anglo-Parts used to carry it also for LHD and RHD applications. ________________________________ AHSpares still lists the Bugeye steering wheel plinth in their on-line catalog. From twobees at sprynet.com Fri Jul 31 11:54:37 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:54:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Tappet Dimensions? Message-ID: <006401ca1207$f8f53150$6401a8c0@normoffice> Anyone out there know the diameter & length of tappets for a 948? Thanks in advance. Norm Sippel '59 Turner w/948 From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 13:08:31 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:08:31 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Picklex for rust before priming no prep steps no rinse Message-ID: <205cef430907311208t150befd2ve6dd2b7abf72bec9@mail.gmail.com> I just got a cool tip from my other car guys about Picklex http://picklex.com/home.html which sounds as good as POR-15 but better and no steps needed and no water applied. I called the company and this stuff can be sprayed or brushed then ether wipe off the powder or air off. Then prime or paint. The site shows photo examples time tested. The only thing you have to be careful of is that you can't use an acid based primer or that funky green primer that Frank uses (I for the type but it is not sandable). I'll give it a try on my non British vehicle and post results. Lin From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 13:40:55 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] Tappet Dimensions? In-Reply-To: <006401ca1207$f8f53150$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: <336249.22546.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 7/31/09, Norm 2Bs wrote: > Anyone out there know the diameter > & length of tappets for a 948? > Not sure, not home to check, but they are the same for 948 - 1275. Also the same as 72 - on MGB. Apparently it is no longer safe for them to come in contact with motor oil, though. Ron From 63ahbj7 at comcast.net Fri Jul 31 14:22:02 2009 From: 63ahbj7 at comcast.net (63ahbj7) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:22:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Ordering a Pizza in 2012] Message-ID: <4A73526A.6030201@comcast.net> From Spridgeteer Vern in Kali !!!! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Ordering a Pizza in 2012 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:24:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Ordering a Pizza in 2012 This is absolutely hilarious, but the scary part about it is that it's probably not too far away from being reality. Want to know how to order a pizza in 2012? Click the link and see. Turn up the volume, listen closely and watch the pointer! http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Jul 31 15:00:35 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:00:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Ordering a Pizza in 2012] Message-ID: <217d401ca1221$f3477e10$0168010a@mail2world.com> You forgot the fact that the call center is in Mumbai! I'll stick with my local pizza joint, thanks! Up to about a year or 2 ago they didn't even take credit/debit cards! -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: 63ahbj7 [63ahbj7 at comcast.net] >Sent: 7/31/2009 4:24:02 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Ordering a Pizza in 2012] > > From Spridgeteer Vern in Kali !!!! > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Ordering a Pizza in 2012 >Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:24:35 -0700 (PDT) >From: > > >Ordering a Pizza in 2012 > >This is absolutely hilarious, but the scary part about it is >that it's probably not too far away from being reality. > >Want to know how to order a pizza in 2012? Click the link >and see. > >Turn up the volume, listen closely and watch the pointer! > > > > >http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 31 15:53:16 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:53:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] just when you thought your tax dollars were safe ... Message-ID: <568053F0849A44E9B174A1A2A471F3A5@spider> Friday, July 31, 2009 WASHINGTON - The House has voted to rush an additional $2 billion into the popular but financially strapped "cash for clunkers" car purchase program. The bill was approved on a vote of 316-109. House members acted within hours of learning from Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood that the program was running out of money. Called the Car Allowance Rebate System, or CARS, the program is designed to help the economy and the environment by spurring new car sales. Car owners can receive federal subsidies of up to $4,500 for trading in their old cars for new ones that achieve significantly higher gas mileage. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said the new money for the program would come from funds approved earlier in the year as part of an economic stimulus bill. From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 31 16:21:16 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:21:16 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] just when you thought your tax dollars were safe ... In-Reply-To: <568053F0849A44E9B174A1A2A471F3A5@spider> References: <568053F0849A44E9B174A1A2A471F3A5@spider> Message-ID: <4A730BEC.32343.1338F49@kk7ss.verizon.net> It's not available for *all* old cars... Check the list... Very specific as to year, make and model.. Years are from 1990 - 2002 !!! "Old Clunkers ?? " A-H's and MG's are *not* eligible !!! http://www.edmunds.com/cash-for-clunkers/eligible-vehicles.html -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jul 31 16:23:48 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:23:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] oil drain plug... Message-ID: <4A730C84.27368.135E258@kk7ss.verizon.net> Could someone please tell me the size and thread for the oil drain plug on the 1275 A-series?? I want to put a Futomo oil valve on it (like the rest of my vehicles) - they don't list Spridgets but they do have a table of available sizes. Thanks -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From silaspgumbody at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 17:31:49 2009 From: silaspgumbody at yahoo.com (Silas P. Gumbody) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] oil drain plug... In-Reply-To: <4A730C84.27368.135E258@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4A730C84.27368.135E258@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <797330.60164.qm@web112210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> "Could someone please tell me the size and thread for the oil drain plug on the 1275 A-series??" The dangers of having the wrong one. From this week's AHSpares newsletter reporting on their sponsored AH 3000 racing at Snetterton: "The circuit had dryed for the race, and after an excellent start Anders converted his pole position to lead the opening lap establishing a substancial gap at the front. A few laps into the race the overdrive stopped working and we were lossing speed on the very long Revett staight.. bI had a great battle with a hard charging Hugo Holland- Bosworth until the gearbox started playing up, and eventually siezedb said Anders. Anders had to abandon the race with David Smithies taking the victory." "The problem turned out to be a loose overdrive drainplug causing all the oil to drain out of the gearbox. The gearbox has now been taken to Hardy Engineering, the # 1 Austin-Healey transmission specialists, who will completely renew the gearbox for the team." From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 31 18:14:46 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:14:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Picklex for rust before priming no prep steps no rinse In-Reply-To: <205cef430907311208t150befd2ve6dd2b7abf72bec9@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430907311208t150befd2ve6dd2b7abf72bec9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5E09B37B8EEB4E179944AD42C1B70AC0@spider> No one sells it. ...bill in Oregon =========================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:09 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Picklex for rust before priming no prep steps no rinse I just got a cool tip from my other car guys about Picklex http://picklex.com/home.html which sounds as good as POR-15 but better and no steps needed and no water applied. I called the company and this stuff can be sprayed or brushed then ether wipe off the powder or air off. Then prime or paint. The site shows photo examples time tested. The only thing you have to be careful of is that you can't use an acid based primer or that funky green primer that Frank uses (I for the type but it is not sandable). I'll give it a try on my non British vehicle and post results. Lin _______________________________________________ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Fri Jul 31 18:24:10 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (HealeyRick) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Ordering a Pizza in 2012] In-Reply-To: <4A73526A.6030201@comcast.net> Message-ID: <915322.2975.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Global warming, my a$$. Hell has officially frozen over. Ed is directing us to an ACLU site! --- On Fri, 7/31/09, 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> wrote: From: 63ahbj7 <63ahbj7 at comcast.net> Subject: [Spridgets] [Fwd: Ordering a Pizza in 2012] To: "SPRIDGETS" Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 4:22 PM >From Spridgeteer Vern in Kali !!!! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Ordering a Pizza in 2012 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:24:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Ordering a Pizza in 2012 This is absolutely hilarious, but the scary part about it is that it's probably not too far away from being reality. Want to know how to order a pizza in 2012? Click the link and see. Turn up the volume, listen closely and watch the pointer! http://aclu.org/pizza/images/screen.swf You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 18:39:25 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:39:25 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Picklex for rust before priming no prep steps no rinse In-Reply-To: <5E09B37B8EEB4E179944AD42C1B70AC0@spider> References: <205cef430907311208t150befd2ve6dd2b7abf72bec9@mail.gmail.com> <5E09B37B8EEB4E179944AD42C1B70AC0@spider> Message-ID: <205cef430907311739q6046992o96183c5263f4706@mail.gmail.com> This website sells it I talked to the salesmen today, takes credit, paypal and others. http://picklex.com/home.html It costs $60. a quart but I think it worth a try. I just called about my ppg primer and being it is not an acid base I can use Picklex so I'll order some this weekend or Monday. Lin On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:14 PM, wrote: > No one sells it. ...bill in Oregon > > =========================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:09 PM > To: Spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Picklex for rust before priming no prep steps no rinse > > I just got a cool tip from my other car guys about Picklex > http://picklex.com/home.html which sounds as good as POR-15 but better and > no steps needed and no water applied. I called the company and this stuff > can be sprayed or brushed then ether wipe off the powder or air off. Then > prime or paint. The site shows photo examples time tested. The only thing > you have to be careful of is that you can't use an acid based primer or > that > funky green primer that Frank uses (I for the type but it is not sandable). > I'll give it a try on my non British vehicle and post results. > Lin > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jul 31 18:45:18 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:45:18 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Picklex for rust before priming no prep steps no rinse In-Reply-To: <205cef430907311739q6046992o96183c5263f4706@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430907311208t150befd2ve6dd2b7abf72bec9@mail.gmail.com> <5E09B37B8EEB4E179944AD42C1B70AC0@spider> <205cef430907311739q6046992o96183c5263f4706@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10151EE480BE4990ACCC621AD253020B@spider> Thank you. I'll look thru their site again. .bill in oregon _____ From: Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:39 PM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Picklex for rust before priming no prep steps no rinse This website sells it I talked to the salesmen today, takes credit, paypal and others. http://picklex.com/home.html It costs $60. a quart but I think it worth a try. I just called about my ppg primer and being it is not an acid base I can use Picklex so I'll order some this weekend or Monday. Lin On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:14 PM, wrote: No one sells it. ...bill in Oregon =========================================== From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 19:14:37 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:14:37 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Picklex for rust before priming no prep steps no rinse In-Reply-To: <10151EE480BE4990ACCC621AD253020B@spider> References: <205cef430907311208t150befd2ve6dd2b7abf72bec9@mail.gmail.com> <5E09B37B8EEB4E179944AD42C1B70AC0@spider> <205cef430907311739q6046992o96183c5263f4706@mail.gmail.com> <10151EE480BE4990ACCC621AD253020B@spider> Message-ID: <205cef430907311814u20600e76r3937288e11fce411@mail.gmail.com> I'll post the results Lin On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:45 PM, wrote: > Thank you. I'll look thru their site again. .bill in oregon > > > > _____ > > From: Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:39 PM > To: corvallis at peoplepc.com > Cc: Spridget list > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Picklex for rust before priming no prep steps no > rinse > > > > This website sells it I talked to the salesmen today, takes credit, paypal > and others. http://picklex.com/home.html > It costs $60. a quart but I think it worth a try. > I just called about my ppg primer and being it is not an acid base I can > use > Picklex so I'll order some this weekend or Monday. > Lin > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 8:14 PM, wrote: > > No one sells it. ...bill in Oregon > > =========================================== > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jul 31 19:35:28 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:35:28 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] Can a Sprite pull an Eriba Puck trailer? pics on site In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430907250700y3ff06f44ia8f45ac4a71c25f2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430907311835mec80588tbe688fa86550c758@mail.gmail.com> I didn't jump on the deal fast enough but tha'ts OK I have too many projects right now. When some of the project smoke clears I'll look again. The 67 VW bus will pull it fine so I won't hurt ether of my favorite cars now : ) Lin On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Bill Masquelier wrote: > Your Sprite COULD pull the trailer but I wouldn't! The actual weight is no > real problem but the windage would be. > To tow it slowly for a couple of miles would be OK but not much more. > It appears that the trailer is in Socal- maybe I'll buy a few tickets, a > Dodge Caravan would pull it no-problem. > The Saturn probably could but I would be really careful. > Bill > > > Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 10:00:45 -0400 > > From: grunthaner at gmail.com > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Spridgets] Can a Sprite pull an Eriba Puck trailer? pics on > site > > > > > List this sounds like a crazy question but will a Sprite pull an Eriba > Puck > > (European Trailer) they say the pull weight is 600 lbs. If not will a 94 > > Saturn with auto trans pull one? > > I may be acquiring one soon similar to this one (not nearly as nice) but > not > > sure if any of my autos will pull it, the VW bus will but I don't see the > > bus ready this summer. Below is an ad from a VW club who is raising money > > for servicemen/women and their families killed or injured in battle by > > raffling one off so you can get an idea. And this is a worthy cause if > you > > are interested in buying a ticket I told the guy I would let my cooler > car > > friends know about it. > > > > I would post this very worthy cause Raffle on the list but want to ask > > first. > > > > Fallen Heroes 2009 Raffle Car Eriba Puck > > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=753426 > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > ------------------------------ > Windows Live SkyDrive: Store, access, and share your photos. See how.