From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 09:02:46 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:02:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] nice hardtop on eBay I want it : ) Message-ID: <205cef430901010802i351244c2j8e79a73a668a2a23@mail.gmail.com> Isn't this a beautiful Bugeye hardtop on ebay? I want it even though I don't have a Bugeye yet but very steeply priced. 160306278348 I would hang it in my living room till I got a Bugeye am I weird? Lin From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Jan 1 09:28:09 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 11:28:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Top Gear BS In-Reply-To: <495BF02E.40403@sbcglobal.net> References: <495BF02E.40403@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I will admit to not having seen the episode; so I will be putting forth opinion as fact from a position of ignorance. It's my right as an American. Top Gear is a lot of fun in my opinion. The characters are enjoyable, if not particularly complex. Clarkson's position is to be a bit of a blow hard ring leader, and the others temper him. So does time. Several cars have been murdered by Clarkson only to be reviewed favorably by Hamster or Captain Slow. Or, by Clarkson after changes were made. I would also argue that Top Gear in at least two ways has more integrity than any other major car "publication". Those two are integrity of opinion and integrity of passion. I like that they might describe a car as being less enjoyable than having ones eyes gnawed out by squirrels. Our domestic outlets would likely say something like, they have managed to stretch the car by 7 inches, add stereo controls to the steering wheel, a sat nav, and 8 cup holders, and makes the 0-60 sprint in .2 seconds less. You then have to get out past issues to find that the car went up by 350 pounds, now runs on a solid axle, gets 18% less fuel economy, and all handling measures are down to that of a minivan. If they like a car, they love it. If a new car is not an improvement for DRIVERS, they make no bones. Heck, they may rip it apart with bulldozers. It is comedy, but they have fun with cars. And I would love to be involved in the 1000 pound challenges they do frequently. The big magazines seem to feel that if they say something bad, they must say three nice things. TG does not do this. So yes, they did not accurately test the Tesla, but did they accurately test the Toyota truck by setting it on fire? Is it fair to say that a fantastic car is not cool just because a guy in shorts thinks it's cool? Have a beer and get your facts elsewhere Lastly both Jalopnik.com and www.autoblog.com have covered both sides fairly well, and it is pretty clear what actually happened. Drew From bighealey at charter.net Thu Jan 1 10:10:22 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 09:10:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! Message-ID: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY> Washington lawmakers are drafting a large economic stimulus package to help create jobs and rebuild infrastructure. They want to include a nationwide scrappage program which would give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in older cars to have them crushed, as a misguided attempt to spur new car sales. The lawmakers need to scrap this idea. http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62498 Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 11:16:56 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:16:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY> References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com> Done. Also emailed my Rep. and Senator concerning this silliness. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > Washington lawmakers are drafting a large economic stimulus package to help > create jobs and rebuild infrastructure. They want to include a nationwide > scrappage program which would give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who > turn-in > older cars to have them crushed, as a misguided attempt to spur new car > sales. The lawmakers need to scrap this idea. > > > > http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62498 From stevenm at optonline.net Thu Jan 1 11:20:42 2009 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 13:20:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY> Message-ID: <006701c96c3d$a87d2b30$6401a8c0@HP> OK done. I will also email the letter to my own congressman (now who is my congressman....?) Steve 78 Midget ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Drummond" To: "'Healey List'" ; Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! > Washington lawmakers are drafting a large economic stimulus package to help > create jobs and rebuild infrastructure. They want to include a nationwide > scrappage program which would give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in > older cars to have them crushed, as a misguided attempt to spur new car > sales. The lawmakers need to scrap this idea. > > > > http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62498 > > > > > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > > President AHCUSA www.healey.org From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jan 1 11:35:51 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 10:35:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com> References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY> <43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com> Hello Jim, I'm not to terrilby worried about such an action, as long as they don't try to make it a mandatory removal of older cars from the road. It's almost sure to be a feel good type of action that does very little to actually remove cars from the road or the collector arena BECAUSE... Its almost sure to be written as some sort of a trade in coupon. That is, trade in your old car for scrap and get $$$ off on a brand new vehicle. The problem is that those who are driving cars that are older and NEED to taken off the road are driven by those who in no way can afford the ---What's the cheapest new car, didn't I just see one for under $10,000, the average being closer to $20,000+--- price of new car. let alone the higher insurance premiums that go along with new car ownership. Those who own cars that are worthy of preserving pretty much know what they have and won't be tempted to "cash out". ... and how much would it take to make it really tempting? It would have to be in the thousand-S of dollars to have any real effect. My gut feeling is that IF this proposal becomes law, it will have an effect much the same as the GUN trade in laws have worked where they have tried that. My 2 Cents. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Can't learn to do it well? Learn to enjoy doing it badly! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 1 11:42:41 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 10:42:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY> Message-ID: > consumers who turn-in > older cars to have them crushed, As long as it's not mandatory, what's the problem? It'll get some of that 80's GM crap off the road. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 11:50:19 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:50:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: <106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com> References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY> <43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com> <106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com> Bill, The danger is that it sets a legislative president. We motorcyclists and gun owners can quote you chapter and verse on how one seemingly innocuous little piece of legislation leads to another little one and one more after that and then, all of a sudden, you wake up and find yourself in violation of the law for something you've been doing legally all your life! As a gun owner and competitive shooter I *definitely* disagree with your parallel to gun legislation! It costs me hundreds of dollars every year to pay lobbyists who are trying to keep lawmakers from taking away my second amendment rights through subtle little manipulations of the system! In other words, I have to pay to prevent my government from doing what they mistakenly think I pay them to do! I don't want to have to do that for my cars and motorcycles too!! BZ adds that "as long as it isn't mandatory........" Sure, Billy. And I know you have a deep and abiding trust that our lawmakers will always keep it voluntary, right? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Jim, > > I'm not to terrilby worried about such an action, as long as they > don't try to make it a mandatory removal of older cars from the > road. It's almost sure to be a feel good type of action that does > very little to actually remove cars from the road or the > collector arena BECAUSE... > > Its almost sure to be written as some sort of a trade in coupon. > That is, trade in your old car for scrap and get $$$ off on a > brand new vehicle. The problem is that those who are driving cars > that are older and NEED to taken off the road are driven by those > who in no way can afford the ---What's the cheapest new car, > didn't I just see one for under $10,000, the average being closer > to $20,000+--- price of new car. let alone the higher insurance > premiums that go along with new car ownership. Those who own cars > that are worthy of preserving pretty much know what they have and > won't be tempted to "cash out". ... and how much would it take to > make it really tempting? It would have to be in the thousand-S of > dollars to have any real effect. > > My gut feeling is that IF this proposal becomes law, it will have > an effect much the same as the GUN trade in laws have worked > where they have tried that. > > My 2 Cents. > > -- From wbmcleod at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 12:44:06 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 12:44:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY> References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY> Message-ID: <38FDEED4-C7FE-46A9-9D93-06B01B2B1321@gmail.com> I would suggest that those people interested do a little research to find out if such a bill exists or is proposed and if it has any support in Congress. I don't see any hard data at all! Bill Slightly Classics Tucson On Jan 1, 2009, at 10:10 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > Washington lawmakers ... want to include a nationwide > scrappage program which would give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who > turn-in > older cars to have them crushed, as a misguided attempt to spur new > car > sales. The lawmakers need to scrap this idea. > > > > http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62498 > > > > > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > > President AHCUSA www.healey.org From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Jan 1 13:17:45 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 12:17:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] nice hardtop on eBay I want it : ) In-Reply-To: <205cef430901010802i351244c2j8e79a73a668a2a23@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430901010802i351244c2j8e79a73a668a2a23@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <64669A55-6A57-464B-A016-31FB39BFE9A5@mac.com> Linda, I think this is a "Watford" hardtop - - there is an article in the forth quarter of Ray English's "Marque One." It appears that it went into production late in 1960. There is a press release published in January 1961. Thanks to Ray's great Sprite Room collection of Bugeye information. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 1, 2009, at 8:02 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Isn't this a beautiful Bugeye hardtop on ebay? I want it even > though I don't > have a Bugeye yet but very steeply priced. 160306278348 I would > hang it in > my living room till I got a Bugeye am I weird? > Lin > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 1 13:28:10 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:28:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495D275A.6060605@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >> > As long as it's not mandatory, what's the problem? > It'll get some of that 80's GM crap off the road. > _______________________________________________ > 80s GM cars rusted away in the 90s around here. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jan 1 13:40:26 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 12:40:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Barn find.... no LBC Message-ID: <495CB9BA.10517.FE7FAF@kk7ss.verizon.net> Unbelievable... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/tyne/7807210.stm -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From pilotrob at msn.com Thu Jan 1 14:46:59 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:46:59 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers Message-ID: As I currently understand it..... lever shocks aren't "variable" in response RATE as are tube shox over uneven surfaces depending on speed. Thus, handling aside, tube shox with their variable response rate give a better ride on the street. However, when rebuilding levers, Peter C. replaces the original ("weeping") bearings with a Delrin type which, as I understand it, "softens" or reduces the "harshness" of initial response by virtue of reduced internal friction. Thus a "smoother" or more gentle initial response teamed with more "slippery" action overall gives Peter's rebuild a ride superior to the original lever shock as produced by the factory. (And of course, Peter can "valve" according to taste and/or application) Now I could be wrong in my understanding of this in which case this will be pointed out by Peter or other more knowledgeable types and we'll all learn something, inclusive of your's truly. BTW, I have Corvette (rear) "shorty" KYB K2R's all around on my Frog's Wheelrite tube shock conversion which came with the car (the kit, not the shox which were originally VW bug types). While they are definitely superior in ride over uneven surfaces at normal street speeds than the original Armstrong levers from the factory, I doubt they're much better in this respect than Peter's lever rebuilds. As I understand it, tube shock kits became popular for the street due mainly to the rising cost of new levers way back when, combined with the fact decent rebuilds lasting more than 6 months (before developing obvious leaks) simply couldn't be found. Then of course, there was the maintenance aspect as the levers required topping off from time to time as the original "bearings" required "weeping" (oil) for necessary lubrication. According to what I've read, most racers are using levers rather than tubes but I don't "know" this. Maybe Ron Soave or others that race from the Autox list can shed some light on what is preferred on the track and why? CapBob From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jan 1 15:04:10 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:04:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com> References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY><43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com><106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com> <43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010120092204.4558.495D3DDA000C20C7000011CE22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog fired back: The gun lobby would like all to believe that we need to possess automatic weapons to protect ourselves from the rapists and murderers under our beds. The only people that should be concerned about a car crusher bill are those with an affection toward old SUV's, Oldsmobile Intrigues, and the soon to be extinct Pontiac and Buick lines. -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" : We motorcyclists and gun owners can quote you chapter and verse on how one seemingly innocuous little piece of legislation leads to another little one and one more after that and then, all of a sudden, you wake up and find yourself in violation of the law for something you've been doing legally all your life! From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 1 15:25:53 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:25:53 EST Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers Message-ID: Because it's the rules that original dampers are used. In a message dated 01/01/2009 21:47:19 GMT Standard Time, pilotrob at msn.com writes: According to what I've read, most racers are using levers rather than tubes but I don't "know" this. Maybe Ron Soave or others that race from the Autox list can shed some light on what is preferred on the track and why? From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jan 1 15:36:12 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 14:36:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: <010120092204.4558.495D3DDA000C20C7000011CE22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY><43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com><106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com> <43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com> <010120092204.4558.495D3DDA000C20C7000011CE22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <495D455C.1030407@frontiernet.net> tinydog at snet.net wrote: > tinydog fired back: > > The gun lobby would like all to believe that we need to possess automatic weapons to protect ourselves from the rapists and murderers under our beds. > > *It is a well establishe fact that an armed citizen is less likely to be attacked than one who is unarmed. States with liberal concealed carry laws have proven that. States and communities with the strictest gun regulations have the highest incidence of gun related homicides. > * > The only people that should be concerned about a car crusher bill are those with an affection toward old > SUV's, *I happen to be very fond of my old Cherokee. He is dependable and easy to work on in the rare event that something breaks.* From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 1 15:54:26 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:54:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY><43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com><106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com><43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com><010120092204.4558.495D3DDA000C20C7000011CE22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <495D455C.1030407@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Bales" > *It is a well establishe fact that an armed citizen is less likely to be > attacked than one who is unarmed. States with liberal concealed carry laws > have proven that. ======================= Wait, if the guns are concealed, how would the attacker know not to attack them? Seems like yet another BS statistic to me. The only reason we need to carry guns is to protect us from the whack job gun nuts that seem to feel the need to carry guns. LAD From cmlove at knology.net Thu Jan 1 15:56:23 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:56:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taking Toyota Tranny apart... Message-ID: <85ED95B908FF4B80A5F6FC0618F6BC5F@LoveLaptop> Hello All; Hope everyone had a good Christmas and New Year celebration. I am taking the Toyota tranny apart ( or trying ) and it doesn't seem to want to separate from the center adapter plate. I have all the bolts out, the C clips are all off the main shaft in front and I have been tapping gently as the manual says to separate them and they won't come apart. Just how gentle do you have to be with these? I don't want to break the housing trying to get it apart. Any ideas? Thanks, Monty Love Hsv, Alabama From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jan 1 16:02:58 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:02:58 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers Message-ID: "Because it's the rules...." Thanx, Daniel....makes sense....Happy New Year to you and your's, btw. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jan 1 16:02:59 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:02:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY><43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com><106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com><43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com><010120092204.4558.495D3DDA000C20C7000011CE22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <495D455C.1030407@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <8272173.20090101150259@pacifier.com> Hello Larry, >The only reason we need to carry guns is to protect us from the whack job >gun nuts that seem to feel the need to carry guns. Tell that to all the students on the campus of Virginia Tech. Knowing that NO ONE could have a gun made it a killing field. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Hey! Who took the cork off my lunch? From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jan 1 16:09:20 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:09:20 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! Message-ID: As to guns, tinydog.....tell it to those who have suffered the increasing spate of home (those that survived, that is) invasions and most recently the horrendous event in this respect in mid-state CT within the last six months. And I couldn't agree more J. Johnson as to how the snowball grows exponentially with the first little bit of legislation. History proves again and again this is so true, Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 1 16:10:01 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:10:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY><43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com><106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com><43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com><010120092204.4558.495D3DDA000C20C7000011CE22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <495D455C.1030407@frontiernet.net> <8272173.20090101150259@pacifier.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 5:02 PM Subject: Re[2]: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! Hello Larry, >The only reason we need to carry guns is to protect us from the whack job >gun nuts that seem to feel the need to carry guns. Tell that to all the students on the campus of Virginia Tech. Knowing that NO ONE could have a gun made it a killing field. =============================== Yeah, it would have been much better if about 50 of them were carrying guns and they all pulled them out and started shooting at anyone with a gun. Talk about a killing field.... LAD From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Thu Jan 1 16:13:34 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:13:34 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] will a 66 hardtop fit a 74? Message-ID: <010120092313.10743.495D4E1E00081785000029F722155934149B9B0E0C9703030103@comcast.net> I could use an answer quickly. Thanks ryan From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jan 1 16:14:31 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:14:31 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Barn find.... no LBC Message-ID: Wow....this will be a most Happy New Year for this family, for sure.....and an XKE and Aston-Martin thrown in for good measure! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jan 1 16:26:15 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:26:15 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher!! Message-ID: "Guns" Again....historical fact, KGB. Maybe if we built enough prisons and ceased our revolving door system of justice which puts criminals back into society obviously before their time in many cases (as was the case with the recent CT home invasion) to the extent society in general is becoming a prison with respect to our nation's borders, we might not have to concern ourselves with this issue to the extent we need to? I think with the economic depression, you're going to see a lot more people heading for the lockup......which might be preferred by many considering how well today's prisoners are taken care of relative to "yesterday". I mean we're not talking "hard labor" these days, are we???? Maybe we oughta be, eh?? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jan 1 16:27:50 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:27:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. Message-ID: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> Take a look at this photo: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1207-01.jpg The old seat cover is on the top. Notice the corner flap of extra material on the new seat cover on the bottom. I could do the "fold and tuck" but it won't look right. Plus this material is thick. I'm going to have to rip the seam, trim out the extra material , and sew it up right myself. Sucks. Anybody else run into this issue? FWIW the new seat covers came from ebay. They appear to be top notch otherwise. From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jan 1 16:31:49 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:31:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY>, Message-ID: <495CE1E5.25588.19B6771@kk7ss.verizon.net> With all due respect to the Men in Blue... Whose motto is "To serve and Protect" They cannot protect me from a criminal act being perpetrated against my person or property... they can only respond to the crime if it is in progress (reponse time about 5 to 10 minutes in a small town!) or after the event - when it wouild be too late... If the potential perpetator know that the State in question supports either 'Open Carry' or 'Concealed Carry' then it may cause them to think twice... Around here we are permitted Both. Two shootings in three years - both domestic related. Our biggest problems, apart from DUi's, are Graffiti, Mules passing through the state and occasional car vandalism Colt .45 -- the original "Point and Click" Flame suit is "ON" On 1 Jan 2009 at 16:54, Larry Daniels wrote: >> The only reason we need to carry guns is to protect us from the whack >> job gun nuts that seem to feel the need to carry guns -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jan 1 16:34:00 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:34:00 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! Message-ID: "I don't see any hard data at all" Neither do I searching Snopes. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jan 1 16:36:25 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:36:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY><43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com><106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com><43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com><010120092204.4558.495D3DDA000C20C7000011CE22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <495D455C.1030407@frontiernet.net> <8272173.20090101150259@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <495D5379.5000309@frontiernet.net> If 50 people with valid concealed carry permits opened up on the whack job at Virginia Tech, he would have had about 45 holes in him. An important part of the safety course that is taught prior to issuance of a CCW permit is to avoid collateral damage. In the firing range training, anyone who does not qualify with a score of 210 out of a possible 300 will not be issued a permit. My scores were 290 and 295. I'm pretty sure I could have hit the target. Kate > > > =============================== > > Yeah, it would have been much better if about 50 of them were carrying guns > and they all pulled them out and started shooting at anyone with a gun. > Talk about a killing field.... > > LAD > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jan 1 16:39:18 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:39:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY>, Message-ID: <495CE3A6.18514.1A24310@kk7ss.verizon.net> The point is simple.... They don't know if you're carrying or not !! "What you don't know may just kill you..." On 1 Jan 2009 at 16:54, Larry Daniels wrote: >> Wait, if the guns are concealed, how would the attacker know not to >> attack them? Seems like yet another BS statistic to me. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jan 1 16:39:40 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:39:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! Message-ID: Sure. There is no way in any case we could afford the police force necessary to protect us in a timely manner from criminals who "take" for a living and being criminals, don't obey laws, gun laws notwithstanding... which is why they're called "criminals" I guess, eh?? :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From lbcs at embarqmail.com Thu Jan 1 16:39:51 2009 From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller (LBCs)) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 18:39:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY><43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com><106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com><43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com><010120092204.4558.495D3DDA000C20C7000011CE22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><495D455C.1030407@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: wtf are you talking about? Thanks for insulting me. You don't even know me. Is it all right if I stereotype too? From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jan 1 16:58:41 2009 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 15:58:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bill, The subjects of Guns, Cats, and Politics come up on this list every year about this time. You can count on hearing from every wacko nut job on the list with home brew statistics applied to urban legends using fuzzy logic. This year one side is particularly upset 'cuz they philosophy appears to have failed them in the marketplace of ideas. So expect the idiocy in spades. But you can simply use your delete key liberally (not in the political sense) and hope that good weather comes around soon so they can start driving again and stop making fools of themselves. Me, I'm still working on my 1275 rebuild. Hal -----Original Message----- wtf are you talking about? Thanks for insulting me. You don't even know me. Is it all right if I stereotype too? _______________________________________________ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Jan 1 16:59:37 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 17:59:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: <495D455C.1030407@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20090101235937.YLJQ6232.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> I will happily donate my wife's Saturn. But then again, I could crush it up myself and put it in the blue recycling bins at the end of the driveway. Cracks apart like a #2 plastic in the cold. %)^*$ oil burner... Positive side, It just keeps running. Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jan 1 17:05:17 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 16:05:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <456028054.20090101160517@pacifier.com> Hello, While I am most often offended whenever someone says.. IF _______ were alive today he would say __________ because I find it extremely presumptuous I'm going to violate my own rule and say that ZAPPA wouldn't want to see our SPRITES crushed in order to bail out GM. Nor would CATS rather be chocks for new cars than old ones, not having a preference in the matter. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Which is the non-smoking lifeboat? From pilotrob at webtv.net Thu Jan 1 17:05:30 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:05:30 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! Message-ID: LOL... :):) considering the general shape of the nation and it's economy, it's obvious who the whackos are and they're certainly not on this list despite differing opinions on whatever subject!! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 18:16:52 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:16:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> Message-ID: Let me guess, these are from the seller Piccioneatqwestnet? I suggest that if you can't return them, at least mention the poor design in your feedback. This seller always pats his own back about how GREAT his covers are, but I always wondered... On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Take a look at this photo: > > http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1207-01.jpg > > The old seat cover is on the top. Notice the corner flap of extra material > on the new seat cover on the bottom. > > I could do the "fold and tuck" but it won't look right. Plus this material > is thick. > I'm going to have to rip the seam, trim out the extra material , and sew it > up right myself. Sucks. > > Anybody else run into this issue? > > FWIW the new seat covers came from ebay. They appear to be top notch > otherwise. _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jan 1 19:23:38 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:23:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> Message-ID: <3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2> Yep, I was just about to post: Avoid like plague ----> Ebay Item number: 320328920306 Now I discover the backs fit poorly as well. I should have inquired to the list before I purchased. Maybe his other models fit OK, but I can attest that the Bugeye covers are not correct ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Fornal To: Dean Hedin Cc: Spridgets Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. Let me guess, these are from the seller Piccioneatqwestnet? I suggest that if you can't return them, at least mention the poor design in your feedback. This seller always pats his own back about how GREAT his covers are, but I always wondered... On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: Take a look at this photo: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/IMGP1207-01.jp g The old seat cover is on the top. Notice the corner flap of extra material on the new seat cover on the bottom. I could do the "fold and tuck" but it won't look right. Plus this material is thick. I'm going to have to rip the seam, trim out the extra material , and sew it up right myself. Sucks. Anybody else run into this issue? FWIW the new seat covers came from ebay. They appear to be top notch otherwise. _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 19:27:48 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:27:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2> References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> <3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com> Like they say in da hood: "If you dunno, you better axe somebody." This list is so diverse and so experienced it is almost a crime to NOT inquire of the list's wisdom. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 1 19:32:18 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 20:32:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2><3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2> <5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> > Like they say in da hood: "If you dunno, you better axe somebody." > This list is so diverse and so experienced it is almost a crime to NOT > inquire of the list's wisdom. Of course, you will generally get at least two adamantly opposite opinions, so you are right back where you started... From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 1 19:34:14 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 18:34:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The only reason we need to carry guns is to protect us from the whack job > gun nuts that seem to feel the need to carry guns. If you don't want one, don't get one. The important thing is to respect the rights of others. BZ From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Jan 1 20:12:05 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:12:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! In-Reply-To: <495D455C.1030407@frontiernet.net> References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY><43840a7e0901011016r3fab22dcga7b078aa2f86dbb8@mail.gmail.com><106656978.20090101103551@pacifier.com><43840a7e0901011050g539bad1fp694ecbc35d4f6892@mail.gmail.com><010120092204.4558.495D3DDA000C20C7000011CE22230682329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <495D455C.1030407@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <03BC2C2DDCD0468FA517AAEC075F9DA0@AndrewHP> -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-> *It is a well establishe fact that an armed citizen is less likely to be attacked than one who is unarmed. States with liberal concealed carry laws have proven that. States and communities with the strictest gun regulations have the highest incidence of gun related homicides. Pandora - "Hey what's in this box?" *I happen to be very fond of my old Cherokee. He is dependable and easy to work on in the rare event that something breaks.* We had Wagoneers when I was a kid. They were great when the transmissions were not exploding, tail gate windows rolled up, and were not otherwise burning to a hulk in our driveway. There is a reason our family motto was "Jeeps should only leave town in pairs." I heard many great things about Jeeps, and my wife and I looked at one a month ago. When the blinkers failed to cancel on a new car, we bought a Forrester XT instead. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 20:22:51 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 21:22:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> <3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2> <5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com> <18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901011922p65c23073q5f947b4d98f02e39@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, when I really need a good answer to a Spridget question, I ask Frank or Paul A or PPP, or Ed. Racing questions go to Ron or a Thicko. Etc. I don't have a Bugeye but I'll bet Frank has a guy in Jersey that can do nice seat covers for a reasonable price. > > Of course, you will generally get at least two adamantly opposite opinions, > so you are right back where you started... From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 1 20:24:32 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:24:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <18039.37431.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > Because it's the rules that original dampers are used. > > In a message dated 01/01/2009 21:47:19 GMT Standard Time, > pilotrob at msn.com > writes: > According to what I've read, most racers are using > levers rather than tubes > but I don't "know" this. Maybe Ron Soave or True. Also, Peter C. is my crew, so I couldn't possibly get tubular. I have his adjustables which he assures me are helping. The only mod I really would like that I can't do (but many do anyway in violation) is rear disc brakes. There is so much speed that us amateurs leave in these cars, though, that there are other places to make it up. Lord willing, I'll keep finding a second or two a year. Ron (with a mega case of the winter blues in northern Illinois) From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jan 1 20:34:26 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:34:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2><3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2><5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com> <18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> Message-ID: <8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2> I think the problem is that I have known that I needed seat covers for a long time, and I had always seen this guy on ebay and thought "He's still there, I guess they are OK" Even his feedback looks pretty good. The problem with the back cover is that even if I pull it tight, the outer portions of the radius (where the piping is) is loose, at the 10 and 1 o'clock positions. It's oversized by about 3/4". The central peak of the back is tight up to the piping. I'll post another picture that shows what I mean. I want everyone to know just what is wrong with these covers so they can make their own evaluation. I can't complain too much. I selected the most inexpensive. I got what I paid for I guess. In the end I will make them "acceptable", but it will take extra effort. At the time I bought these, there were others on ebay that were advertised to be from the UK. They were $300 or so. I should have gone that route instead. There is one more thing I notice. The vinyl has a peculiar smell. Belive it or not it smells like sensimillia. I wonder if that has something to do with the inaccuracies! From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 1 20:48:13 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 19:48:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2> Message-ID: <642420.78591.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Dean Hedin wrote: > Belive it or not it smells like sensimillia. > I got what I paid for I guess. And then some. Ron From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 21:02:13 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:02:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... Message-ID: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com> I have guns, lots of them. I like to shoot targets and vermin and pests. Full auto shooting can be fun. This country was founded by religious nuts with guns. The Founding Fathers thought guns important enough to make the right to bear arms the #2 Amendment. I think the government should fear the people and not vice-versa. I think Rosie is a hypocrite for being anti-gun and employing armed body guards. I don't know what "gun lobby" you are referring to, but myself and other like-minded citizens like to exercise or Constitutional Rights to keep and bear arms. The "anti-gun lobby" and liberal media uses terms like "automatic weapons" improperly. Do some research. Find out how many crimes were committed by persons who legally owned fully automatic weapons. See what those horrible "Ducks Unlimited" people have done to the environment. Some interesting reading on the subject, by Paul Harvery: http://www.fightthebias.com/Media/paul_harvey_on_guns.htm Good Day! P.S. If you have rapists and murderers under your bed you should consider moving. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 1 21:04:28 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:04:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2> References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> <3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2> <5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com> <18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> <8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901012004j4772a4cfjd0a8292fae3e4c68@mail.gmail.com> Hey, Frank, what are some good options for Bugeye seat covers? From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 1 21:09:02 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:09:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Anybody know if any other City besides Chi has had their FIRST murder?? Chi has !! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 1 21:09:39 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:09:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... References: Message-ID: <8B1ACC7D33704B27AA2EA5A175564150@Larry> I think almost all cities have. My city had it's first a couple hundred years ago. HTH, LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... Anybody know if any other City besides Chi has had their FIRST murder?? Chi has !! You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 1 21:12:55 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:12:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901011922p65c23073q5f947b4d98f02e39@mail.gmail.com> References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> <3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2> <5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com> <18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> <5f00d9910901011922p65c23073q5f947b4d98f02e39@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <495D9447.9020306@comcast.net> derf wrote: > I don't have a Bugeye but I'll bet Frank has a guy in Jersey that can > do nice seat covers for a reasonable price. > Local guy does my seats including any padding and metal repair for $150 a seat including all materials. Up from $125 last year. The Holy Sprite seats are perfect $300 and all I did was drop them off at Walt's place. He did my Healey 3000 which needed back seat pans which he made from file cabinets, he made the front seat pans. He has done all my seats for the past 20 years and he once noticed my drivers seat which was over 10 years in use had ripped where the seat belt comes around on that lower panel. He made me a new panel at no cost. This guy turned late model chevy seats into classic looking Austin A40 seats for me too. And always for less than what the seat kits cost, and he makes them look like originals or 2 tone like I had in PIECES. He is doing VW seats in plaid for my son. Check with your local auto upholstry shop, you might be surprised. Like custom tonneaus for $200, Use of snap hole punching tools for a cup of coffee, and material, vinyl and carpet that matches each other so the whole interior looks right. The entire Holy Sprite interior was $600, when I did the 58 2 years ago, the entire interior was $450, I think my 67 Sprite cost me around $500 last year. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 1 21:15:35 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:15:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! References: Message-ID: <78BF798A0CE74C9AADA4DCAA03C8B9A1@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" > The only reason we need to carry guns is to protect us from the whack job > gun nuts that seem to feel the need to carry guns. If you don't want one, don't get one. The important thing is to respect the rights of others. BZ ============================ Got one, Billy. In fact, I have more than one. I have been a gun owner for nearly all my life. But after years of carrying one every day, I don't have to any more and won't unless I get paid to do it again. At my age, nobody is going to pay me to do that anymore. Not to mention that kind of money won't make it for me anymore. BTW, I never said people shouldn't be allowed to carry. I only questioned the need or reason why somebody would carry a concealed gun. If I lived in an area that was so dangerous that I felt the need to carry a gun to protect myself, I would give serious consideration to moving. Larry From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 1 21:23:53 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 22:23:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <8B1ACC7D33704B27AA2EA5A175564150@Larry> Message-ID: <> THIS year, S.A. !!! But in YOUR defense Larry, I left myself wide open for that!! From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jan 1 22:07:42 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 00:07:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2><3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2><5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com><18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> <8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2> Message-ID: <30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2> I was in the process of leaving negative feedback for Piccioneatqwestnet on ebay, however ebay now requires that you contact the seller before leaving negative feedback. This is a Good Thing. Here is what I've decided. I think that Piccioneatqwestnet has potential. I believe in supporting an additional spridget cottage industry. If Piccioneatqwestnet can make the fit of his covers a little better then we all win. Spridget seat covers don't last forever. I'm glad there is someone on the low end. Outside of the fit issue I think the covers are otherwise of good quality. The material is especially good. So I'm going to send him an email with links to carefully taken photos that show him where the errors are. I will even offer to send him one of my old seat covers to use as a reference template. FWIW, my previous covers are 70's aftermarket vintage. They fit perfectly, but are made with a poor quality, thin, vinyl. If he wants to do good to me then thats OK. But I have already relegated myself to make what I have work. If he does nothing that OK by me, he just gets negative feedback. From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jan 1 22:23:54 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:23:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2> References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2><3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2><5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com><18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> <8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2> <30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2> Message-ID: <495DA4EA.4060901@frontiernet.net> Uh oh! Frank - better lock up your nail guns. Kate > > > If he does nothing that OK by me, he just gets negative feedback. From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 1 23:46:03 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 00:46:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2> Message-ID: <> Maybe, maybe not Dean. Across the 'net' I think I have seen at LEAST 3 dozen 'beefs' about his "kits". Ain't trying myself. I prefer quality and am willing to pay for it. As you mentioned elsewhere, "...gets what ya pay for." Ed From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 07:12:38 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 08:12:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: References: <8B1ACC7D33704B27AA2EA5A175564150@Larry> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901020612k275988c7x91cd18e719829f8e@mail.gmail.com> Better to be a S.A. than a D.A. On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > <> > > THIS year, S.A. !!! From davriker at nwi.net Fri Jan 2 08:15:55 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 07:15:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Save them from the crusher ! Now Guns :( References: <03311FD4BCA14FB9BCF08B078CA26AC5@TRACY>, <495CE1E5.25588.19B6771@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: Only criminals commit crimes. NOTHING you say will convince me not to do everything in my power to outlaw guns. NOTHING I say will convince you not to fight me on it every step of the way. That's why there are lawyers and politicians. Want to keep it going? Let's talk abortion, prayer in school, death with dignity, gay marriage, the Bush presidency, or many other HOT button topics. This list is diverse, interesting, and that is one of the things that I like. Just don't bash people for their passionate opinions. Back to the car crushing: In the eighties, there was a real worry that crushing gas guzzlers would result not in the destruction of actual classics, but in the reduction of donor cars to get used parts for the classics. Well, most of those cars are off the road anyway, and most of the nice classics are in the hands of people who are truely caring for them. Today, we are talking about crushing and removing 1995 Chrysler LeBaron's with 175,000 miles on them. Driving is not a right, it is a privilige. If you doubt me, read your state's driver's handbook, or ask a Highway Patrol person. The excuse that crusher laws will target poor people, well... privilges are for those who can afford them, rights are for everybody. When I start my 1963 Ford Falcon, it polutes more in the first 5 minutes of run time than my wife's 03 Lexus does in a year of driving. I am blowing that smoke into your lungs. Do I really have the RIGHT to do that? I do it now because it is legal, but looking in the mirror, I'd have a hard time convincing myself or anybody else that I should be allowed to. David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave G." To: "Larry Daniels" ; Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Save them from the crusher ! both domestic related. > > Our biggest problems, apart from DUi's, are Graffiti, Mules passing > through the state and occasional car vandalism > > > Colt .45 -- the original "Point and Click" > > Flame suit is "ON" From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 2 09:15:42 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:15:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200901020815523.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 03:46 PM 1/1/2009, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: >As I currently understand it..... > >lever shocks aren't "variable" in response RATE as are tube shox >over uneven surfaces depending on speed. Thus, handling aside, tube >shox with their variable response rate give a better ride on the street. ----- Unfortunately I missed the original question, and the good Cap'n did not include it in his response. The statement above is not true, but is often promulgated on the 'Net.(as are other myths) While I appreciate the Cap'n's endorsement, the facts he offers might be misleading. Please, re-post the question or contact me directly. Peter C From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 09:58:05 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (J Foster)) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:58:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0901020858l39c5ad72ga3644298239264e4@mail.gmail.com> Wow. What a great place. NOT. They've got great pizza; but their politics and their crime rate sure aren't what I'd be bragging about. I really wish they'd secede from the state of Illinois and leave the rest of us alone. On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > Anybody know if any other City besides Chi has had their FIRST murder?? > > Chi has !! From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 09:58:02 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:58:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] nice hardtop on eBay I want it : ) In-Reply-To: <64669A55-6A57-464B-A016-31FB39BFE9A5@mac.com> References: <205cef430901010802i351244c2j8e79a73a668a2a23@mail.gmail.com> <64669A55-6A57-464B-A016-31FB39BFE9A5@mac.com> Message-ID: <205cef430901020858q952b9aepead4f9fd04d82817@mail.gmail.com> Do you have a link on that I can't find it. Lin On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Linda, > > I think this is a "Watford" hardtop - - there is an article in the > forth quarter of Ray English's "Marque One." It appears that it > went into production late in 1960. There is a press release > published in January 1961. > > Thanks to Ray's great Sprite Room collection of Bugeye information. > > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > On Jan 1, 2009, at 8:02 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > > Isn't this a beautiful Bugeye hardtop on ebay? I want it even > > though I don't > > have a Bugeye yet but very steeply priced. 160306278348 I would > > hang it in > > my living room till I got a Bugeye am I weird? > > Lin > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 10:17:33 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (J Foster)) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:17:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2> References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> <3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2> <5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com> <18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> <8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2> <30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0901020917g79d4fcd3ya447e590c307c1f4@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > I was in the process of leaving negative feedback for Piccioneatqwestnet on > ebay, > however ebay now requires that you contact the seller before leaving > negative feedback. > This is a Good Thing. > > The only way to know if the guy is reputable is to contact him (politely), advise of the trouble, and see if he will correct it (at HIS cost). If not, THEN he deserves negative feedback on eBay and definetly let us all know here how it turns out either way. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 10:21:38 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:21:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0901020858l39c5ad72ga3644298239264e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0901020858l39c5ad72ga3644298239264e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901020921w5ba66c77v154501416c235a16@mail.gmail.com> They can't secede, they need your tax money to be able to line their pockets. Louisiana seems to have a reputation for crooked politics. I read somewhere that four of Illinois' recent governors have gone to jail. I guess things are tough all over. From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 2 10:27:33 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:27:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0901020858l39c5ad72ga3644298239264e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> !! <> I've had some pretty decent 'pies' in Joisey !! <> Makes D.C. look TAME!! And I have lived there also and still consider it home (especially NOW since it is legal AGAIN to own my guns!! <> When you start the petition Jethro, let's make it Cook County AND Chicago !!! Blogo, Stroger & Daley = (VERY SORRY) Moe, Larry & Curly !! From sliclass at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 10:30:05 2009 From: sliclass at gmail.com (WBM imap) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:30:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901020921w5ba66c77v154501416c235a16@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0901020858l39c5ad72ga3644298239264e4@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910901020921w5ba66c77v154501416c235a16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <495E4F1D.10805@gmail.com> Actually, the record for malfeasance in office by governors (convicted, not just charged) rests with the great state of Arizona! Who'da thunkit! Bill derf wrote: They can't secede, they need your tax money to be able to line their pockets. Louisiana seems to have a reputation for crooked politics. I read somewhere that four of Illinois' recent governors have gone to jail. I guess things are tough all over. _______________________________________________ From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jan 2 10:36:59 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 09:36:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <495E4F1D.10805@gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com>, <5f00d9910901020921w5ba66c77v154501416c235a16@mail.gmail.com>, <495E4F1D.10805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <495DE03B.18081.6E0C61@kk7ss.verizon.net> Hmmmm..... We seem to have the Best Politicians that money can buy... On 2 Jan 2009 at 10:30, WBM imap wrote: >> Actually, the record for malfeasance in office by >> governors (convicted, not just charged) rests with the great >> state of Arizona! Who'da thunkit! Bill derf wrote: >> >> They can't secede, they need your tax money to be able to line their >> pockets. Louisiana seems to have a reputation for crooked politics. I >> read somewhere that four of Illinois' recent governors have gone to >> jail. I guess things are tough all over. >> _______________________________________________ >> _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as kk7ss at verizon.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 10:52:53 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:52:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901020921w5ba66c77v154501416c235a16@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0901020858l39c5ad72ga3644298239264e4@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910901020921w5ba66c77v154501416c235a16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901020952i73a36135wabb60bb0044480e1@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM, derf wrote: > I read > somewhere that four of Illinois' recent governors have gone to jail. Naw. They were condemned and sent to Louisiana. ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 10:53:12 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:53:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <495E4F1D.10805@gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0901020858l39c5ad72ga3644298239264e4@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910901020921w5ba66c77v154501416c235a16@mail.gmail.com> <495E4F1D.10805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901020953o537e481fk2478b2ce08878da6@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, but Arizona has Sheriff Joe. I would probably vote for Sheriff Joe. He seems to have his area of public service under control. From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 10:54:49 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:54:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901020952i73a36135wabb60bb0044480e1@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0901020858l39c5ad72ga3644298239264e4@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910901020921w5ba66c77v154501416c235a16@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0901020952i73a36135wabb60bb0044480e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901020954p5df3e445wec5b595e4d120a45@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:21 AM, derf wrote: > >> I read >> somewhere that four of Illinois' recent governors have gone to jail. > > > > Naw. They were condemned and sent to Louisiana. ;-) > -- "I hate Illinois Nazis" From cciaffone at verizon.net Fri Jan 2 11:09:21 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:09:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901020953o537e481fk2478b2ce08878da6@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901012002k15d102feibd9579958e179e76@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0901020858l39c5ad72ga3644298239264e4@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910901020921w5ba66c77v154501416c235a16@mail.gmail.com> <495E4F1D.10805@gmail.com> <5f00d9910901020953o537e481fk2478b2ce08878da6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <495E5851.1070202@verizon.net> Izzat Sheriff Joe the Plumber?? derf wrote: > Yeah, but Arizona has Sheriff Joe. From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 2 11:45:35 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:45:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901020953o537e481fk2478b2ce08878da6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Probably, derf ?? I know da*ned well I would vote for him for ANY National 'Office' he wants to run for !!! President would be BEST !! <> While the above is automatically in the Top Ten of Understatement of the Year, I doubt ANYONE will come up with something to dislodge it from FIRST !!!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 2 11:54:29 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:54:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers In-Reply-To: <200901020815523.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <> Which Peter, is all together the norm (which suxs) !! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 2 12:06:35 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:06:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... References: Message-ID: > <> And, having read a little deeper into said sheriff's modus operandus and abuses, I would certainly do my best to see that he was defeated. Not that it would take that much. His margin of victory has shrunk in each election; 7% more and he will be out a job and probably applying for a protection program. David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 12:08:50 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:08:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910901020953o537e481fk2478b2ce08878da6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901021108h5aee059eub58ff535a4209ed2@mail.gmail.com> Yes, I would PROBABLY vote for him. It would depend on many things, foremost of which would be who is running against him. I think he would probably be the best man for most jobs, but I think voting is important enough that we should make each decision on a case by case basis. I am not sure Sheriff Joe is qualified to be President. Lots of people would vote for Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly but that doesn't mean they would make good statesmen. We have too many politicians, we need some public serving statesmen. > Probably, derf ?? I know da*ned well I would vote for him for ANY National > 'Office' he wants to run for !!! President would be BEST !! From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 2 12:13:35 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:13:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <495E4F1D.10805@gmail.com> Message-ID: <> BUT Bill, we gonna be adding #5 (VERY soon, I hope)!! Where is AZ at in #s?? Ed From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 2 12:16:53 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:16:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0901020917g79d4fcd3ya447e590c307c1f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Nah, Jethro. I have even seen his replies and he STATES that all his kits fit 'perfectly'. AND he says it VERY non-politely !! From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 2 12:28:27 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:28:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901021108h5aee059eub58ff535a4209ed2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Well derf, we sure are NOT getting one this next coming time. Chicago "trained". And interest read (and it is some what continuous) is John Kass's column in the Chi. Tribune (4 cols/week). http://tinyurl.com/8u3gov or http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-johnkass,0,5724822.columni st This gent is really on top of area politics and has been researching same since even before Mike Royko dies. From sliclass at gmail.com Fri Jan 2 12:30:03 2009 From: sliclass at gmail.com (WBM imap) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:30:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901021108h5aee059eub58ff535a4209ed2@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901020953o537e481fk2478b2ce08878da6@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910901021108h5aee059eub58ff535a4209ed2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <495E6B3B.1080909@gmail.com> Well, Sheriff Joe has tried to skirt the laws of Arizona to build a personal fiefdom in Maricopa County. The crime rate has not gotten any better after several years with him as Sheriff, and violent crime has gotten worse. He is concerned pretty much full time with blowing his own horn. See what comes up when googling Sheriff Joe Arpaio, particularly the Bolick report. I'm glad I live in Pima County, where my son-in-law is a sheriff's detective! Bill derf wrote: Yes, I would PROBABLY vote for him. It would depend on many things, foremost of which would be who is running against him. I think he would probably be the best man for most jobs, but I think voting is important enough that we should make each decision on a case by case basis. I am not sure Sheriff Joe is qualified to be President. Lots of people would vote for Rush Limbaugh or Bill O'Reilly but that doesn't mean they would make good statesmen. We have too many politicians, we need some public serving statesmen. Probably, derf ?? I know da*ned well I would vote for him for ANY National 'Office' he wants to run for !!! President would be BEST !! You are subscribed as wbmcleod at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jan 2 12:48:14 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:48:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0901020917g79d4fcd3ya447e590c307c1f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2> <3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2> <5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com> <18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget> <8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2> <30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2> <8de85a9c0901020917g79d4fcd3ya447e590c307c1f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <495E6F7E.4020508@frontiernet.net> And after contacting him politely, if he fails to correct the problem, advise him that you are a member of this somewhat closely knit community and you will be informing all of us of your experience. Then leave the feedback. Kate >> >> The only way to know if the guy is reputable is to contact him (politely), >> > advise of the trouble, and see if he will correct it (at HIS cost). > > If not, THEN he deserves negative feedback on eBay and definetly let us all > know here how it turns out either way. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 2 12:50:38 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 13:50:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... References: Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... <> Probably, derf ?? I know da*ned well I would vote for him for ANY National 'Office' he wants to run for !!! President would be BEST !! <> While the above is automatically in the Top Ten of Understatement of the Year, I doubt ANYONE will come up with something to dislodge it from FIRST !!!!!! _______________________________________________ Ed, wake up. Joe Arpaio is a sadistic psychopath. If the residents of his county had any combination of brains and foresight, they would dump his sorry butt before they run their county into bankruptcy from all of the lawsuits they have lost and will continue to lose because of him. He has no place in law enforcement. LAD From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jan 2 12:53:04 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:53:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <495E70A0.70204@frontiernet.net> Golly. Out here in the wild west, where almost everyone LEGALLY owns and/or carries weapons, I have yet to meet anyone who even locks their doors. Our crime rate, other than DUIs, domestic violence, and drug runners on the Interstate is almost non-existent. Kate > > < about.>> > > Makes D.C. look TAME!! And I have lived there also and still consider > it home (especially NOW since it is legal AGAIN to own my guns!! > > < of us alone.>> > > When you start the petition Jethro, let's make it Cook County AND Chicago > !!! > > Blogo, Stroger & Daley = (VERY SORRY) Moe, Larry & Curly !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1865 - Release Date: 12/26/2008 1:01 PM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 2 13:09:23 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:09:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... References: <495E70A0.70204@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <56FA0479F00548C199763EB8EFA89D68@NilesAD.von.gov> > Golly. Out here in the wild west, where almost everyone LEGALLY owns > and/or carries weapons, I have yet to meet anyone who even locks their > doors. Our crime rate, other than DUIs, domestic violence, and drug > runners on the Interstate is almost non-existent. The population comes pretty close to no-existent, too. Not that that is a bad thing. Just sayin'. From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jan 2 14:42:52 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 13:42:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: <56FA0479F00548C199763EB8EFA89D68@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <495E70A0.70204@frontiernet.net> <56FA0479F00548C199763EB8EFA89D68@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <495E8A5C.4010004@frontiernet.net> That depends on whether you are counting the rabbits, mustangs, antelope, deer, and other four legged neighbors. Kate > > The population comes pretty close to no-existent, too. Not that that > is a bad thing. Just sayin'. > _______________________________________________ From pilotrob at msn.com Fri Jan 2 15:31:06 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:31:06 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers Message-ID: No, with all due respect, it's not "the norm"...not at all. In the last 5 days there have been a number of posts on lever vs tube shocks, Not all posts are, nor must they be, a direct response to a particular post, Some posts, such as mine, contain general information on the subject that might or might not be, educational and of general interest to all concerned on this particular VERY RECENT subject, CapBob -----Original Message----- From: Ed's Shop Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 1:54 PM To: midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers <> Which Peter, is all together the norm (which suxs) !! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 2 15:40:00 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:40:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers References: Message-ID: <974FFD4F39764165B8077BF6E5B55C95@NilesAD.von.gov> Cap'n, With all due respect, the problem here is that you are replying to a post on the Midgetsprite Yahoo group with a post to them AND to the Spridget List. Therefore, the Spridget List has not seen those posts regarding tubes vs transistors and it is hard to post a germaine answer. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From pilotrob at msn.com Fri Jan 2 15:52:03 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 22:52:03 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers Message-ID: Ah,,,,,,Thankyou, David, Now I understand my unintended screw up, I thought the problem occurred otherwise, Apologies to all concerned and thanx for setting me straight, Dave. :) CapBob -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 5:40 PM To: Robert E. Shlafer, Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Re: tubes vs levers Cap'n, With all due respect, the problem here is that you are replying to a post on the Midgetsprite Yahoo group with a post to them AND to the Spridget List. Therefore, the Spridget List has not seen those posts regarding tubes vs transistors and it is hard to post a germaine answer. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Jan 2 19:03:03 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:03:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2><3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2><5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com><18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget><8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2><30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2><8de85a9c0901020917g79d4fcd3ya447e590c307c1f4@mail.gmail.com> <495E6F7E.4020508@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I've got the drivers seat done. Given the circumstances, it actually turned out better than I thought it would. I took photos of how I worked around the various issues and I will post them shortly. I even cleaned up the frame and painted it the proper "cloud" gray. One thing I discovered during this project was that there are actually two kinds of upholstery clips used on the Bugeye seats. Previously I thought they were all the same. There are "thick" clips for the bottom of the seat back where multiple layers of material are held at the bottom edge of the seat back Then there are "Thin" clips for the seat bottom, where there is only the single layer of material. You defintely don't want to mix them up. Wish I had a few more of both kinds. Another thing I learned is that 3m Super 77 Multipurpose spray adhesive is almost as wonderous as Rustoleum Antique White paint is. It is essential for this project. Question: What are the approximate dimensions of the original wood strips that go under the driver seat runners on a Bugeye? Is it just the length /width of the rails and high enough to clear the pretruding frame box section? Believe it or not, the whole goal of all this is so I can at least get into the driving position so I can test drive the Rivergate install to make sure everything is Kosher. From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 2 20:05:48 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:05:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <<...driving position so I can test drive...>> VERY lame excuse, Dean !!! LOL I am sure I haven't used as many as Frank, but milk crates work just fine !!! Frank, how many have you used ?? I'm sure I've used a couple hundred as I work on lots of other vehicles!!! Even used 1 in the Black Camino 'cause I needed to move it and change drive direction (thought of Frank; got laughing about him; and just HAD to go for a few block ride) !! From davriker at nwi.net Fri Jan 2 20:30:42 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:30:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... References: <495E70A0.70204@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Sounds like the perfect place to set up my new meth lab. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Bales" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... > Golly. Out here in the wild west, where almost everyone LEGALLY owns > and/or carries weapons, I have yet to meet anyone who even locks their > doors. Our crime rate, other than DUIs, domestic violence, and drug > runners on the Interstate is almost non-existent. > > Kate From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 2 20:48:58 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:48:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns, No LBC, Hit Delete Now Or Else..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> Powered by a solar Chrysler, David???? Enquiring minds and all that.................. LAD From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 2 22:08:53 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 00:08:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2><3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2><5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com><18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget><8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2><30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2><8de85a9c0901020917g79d4fcd3ya447e590c307c1f4@mail.gmail.com> <495E6F7E.4020508@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <495EF2E5.3090205@comcast.net> Dean Hedin wrote: > > > Question: What are the approximate dimensions of the original wood > strips that go under the driver seat runners > on a Bugeye? 3/8 thick by 7/8 wide. Ash was original but oak works fine. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Fri Jan 2 22:08:50 2009 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:08:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] seating position, was re-upholstery issue. Message-ID: <751270.24874.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> On the topic of driving position.... B I am one of those tall blokes that people tend toB chuckle at when they see me unfold myself from the cockpit of my mkII. They also laugh on the highway, as my head is well above the top of the windscreen...(best not roll the car!) I don't care if they laugh, but, I find that my knees always hit the bottom edgeB of the dashboard (dosen't occur in my bro's mkIII which has the later style of dash, but no elbow room!) . Has anyone tried modifying a seat cushion, so it is thinner, and puts your khyber closer to the floor? if so, how? and how did it turn out? B Andy 6'4" B B --- On Sat, 3/1/09, Ed's Shop wrote: From: Ed's Shop Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. To: "Spridgets" Received: Saturday, 3 January, 2009, 2:05 PM <<...driving position so I can test drive...>> VERY lame excuse, Dean !!!B LOL I am sure I haven't used as many as Frank, but milk crates work just fine !!! Frank, how many have you used ?? I'm sure I've used a couple hundred as I work on lots of other vehicles!!! Even used 1 in the Black Camino 'cause I needed to move it and change drive direction (thought of Frank; got laughing about him; and just HAD to go for a few block ride) !! You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Jan 3 05:58:00 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:58:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] seating position, was re-upholstery issue. In-Reply-To: <751270.24874.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <751270.24874.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Try putting MkIV seats into it. In our 65, I CANNOT drive with the top off, as I get slathered in rain. The 68 is a joy to ride in, in a light shower, as I sit low enough, that the rain goes overhead. At least, until I stop... On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Andy Webster wrote: > On the topic of driving position.... > B > I am one of those tall blokes that people tend toB chuckle at when they see > me > unfold myself from the cockpit of my mkII. They also laugh on the highway, > as > my head is well above the top of the windscreen...(best not roll the car!) > I > don't care if they laugh, but, > I find that my knees always hit the bottom edgeB of the dashboard (dosen't > occur in my bro's mkIII which has the later style of dash, but no elbow > room!) > . > Has anyone tried modifying a seat cushion, so it is thinner, and puts your > khyber closer to the floor? if so, how? and how did it turn out? > B > Andy > 6'4" > B > B > > > --- On Sat, 3/1/09, Ed's Shop wrote: > > > From: Ed's Shop > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. > To: "Spridgets" > Received: Saturday, 3 January, 2009, 2:05 PM > > > <<...driving position so I can test drive...>> > > VERY lame excuse, Dean !!!B LOL > > I am sure I haven't used as many as Frank, but milk crates work just fine > !!! > > Frank, how many have you used ?? > > I'm sure I've used a couple hundred as I work on lots of other vehicles!!! > Even used 1 in the Black Camino 'cause I needed to move it and change drive > direction (thought of Frank; got laughing about him; and just HAD to go for > a few block ride) !! > You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. > Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 3 08:31:54 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 07:31:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Free Car mags Message-ID: <496563.45715.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have recent issues of Classic Motorsports Magazine and Hemmings Sports and Exotic Car that are free for shipping cost to you. These are, IMHO, the best mags for classic car hobbiests. I have way too much crap accumulating, and would like to purge these to someone who would enjoy them. Issues are: Hemmings Sports and Exotic: 12/06 2/07 3/07 4/07 9/07 11/07 12/07 1/08 2/08 3/08 4/08 5/08 6/08 7/08 8/08 9/08 Classic MotorsportS 9/04 11/04 3/05 9/05 11/05 3/06 7/06 9/06 11/06 1/07 3/07 5/07 7/07 9/07 3/08 9/08 These are all in excellent shape, I just don't want to toss them. Shipping would be your choice, 15 pounds for CM, 8 pounds for S&Exotic from zip 61073. They go in the recycle bin Tuesday. Ron From bighealey at charter.net Sat Jan 3 09:25:10 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:25:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Want to trade spare hold down Message-ID: <24461AA822A14AA3850BE19BE00590B7@TRACY> I have a spare tire hold down for a wire wheel. I have Rostyles. A- are the Rostyle ones a bit longer than wire ones? B- If so anyone want to trade this wire one for a Rostyle one? Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 3 10:55:36 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 09:55:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Free Car mags In-Reply-To: <496563.45715.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <624722.82039.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> All spoken for, thanks. --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Ron Soave wrote: > From: Ron Soave > Subject: [Spridgets] Free Car mags > To: "Spridgets" , team-thicko at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 9:31 AM > I have recent issues of Classic Motorsports Magazine and > Hemmings Sports and Exotic Car that are free for shipping > cost to you. These are, IMHO, the best mags for classic car > hobbiests. I have way too much crap accumulating, and would > like to purge these to someone who would enjoy them. Issues > are: > > Hemmings Sports and Exotic: > 12/06 > 2/07 > 3/07 > 4/07 > 9/07 > 11/07 > 12/07 > 1/08 > 2/08 > 3/08 > 4/08 > 5/08 > 6/08 > 7/08 > 8/08 > 9/08 > > Classic MotorsportS > 9/04 > 11/04 > 3/05 > 9/05 > 11/05 > 3/06 > 7/06 > 9/06 > 11/06 > 1/07 > 3/07 > 5/07 > 7/07 > 9/07 > 3/08 > 9/08 > > These are all in excellent shape, I just don't want to > toss them. Shipping would be your choice, 15 pounds for CM, > 8 pounds for S&Exotic from zip 61073. > > They go in the recycle bin Tuesday. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billmasq at hotmail.com Sat Jan 3 12:36:25 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 11:36:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC content- but good In-Reply-To: <624722.82039.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <496563.45715.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <624722.82039.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWiXy55OHyY Happy New Year Bill _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere _122008 From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jan 3 13:05:25 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 14:05:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Free Car mags In-Reply-To: <624722.82039.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <624722.82039.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <495FC505.9040305@wi.net> Fear not! I am presently going through my magazines and will have a list of issues up next week. They do add up don't they? I must have ~75. Happy New Year cleaning! Dave 59 :{) Burlington WI Ron Soave wrote: > All spoken for, thanks. > > > --- On Sat, 1/3/09, Ron Soave wrote: From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jan 3 18:05:04 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 20:05:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seat re-upholstery issue. References: <479B0186744440AAB313749ABAA24C1C@blackbox2><3AA727BD59314F898F803E6082DC6A8C@blackbox2><5f00d9910901011827p1af32e1bo7f9eed3756e881f@mail.gmail.com><18792996E6E64F7C9F3276CF7351175C@midget><8FBB9A888E134A1B90C0E81B225686C8@blackbox2><30F24EEDB6DF4928A4155B2F9D78B766@blackbox2><8de85a9c0901020917g79d4fcd3ya447e590c307c1f4@mail.gmail.com> <495E6F7E.4020508@frontiernet.net> <495EF2E5.3090205@comcast.net> Message-ID: OK, I promised pictures. I guess you can call this sort of a "silk purse from a sow's ear" story. Or maybe a better title would be "Piccioneatqwestnet HOWTO" It came out better than I thought it would. I'm sure the passanger seat will go much better after having learn a bit on the first seat. These pictures are a little out of sequence but they are notated so I'm sure you'll get the idea. http://s295.photobucket.com/albums/mm135/brokencase_photos/ebay%20covers/?albumview=slideshow From nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com Sun Jan 4 13:49:00 2009 From: nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com (John Mac) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 12:49:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Rim/Tire Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <801544.13949.qm@web56107.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Happy New Year All, Quick question regarding this ebay item: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1974-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-REBUILT-SALVAGE-VERY-NICE_W0QQitemZ270324847437QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item270324847437&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 Item # if the link won't work: 270324847437 Would anyone know what size rim/tire this MG is sporting and who might supply/manufacture the rim? Thanks, John MacDonald Bedford, NH 70 B 59 Sprite From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 4 14:04:47 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 15:04:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Rim/Tire Question In-Reply-To: <801544.13949.qm@web56107.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <801544.13949.qm@web56107.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901041304l1b6364a2va5fdf745eff3a3d2@mail.gmail.com> Looks like some sort of Minilite to me. Maybe 14"?? Email the seller and ask.... Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:49 PM, John Mac wrote: > Happy New Year All, > > Quick question regarding this ebay item: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1974-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-REBUILT-SALVAGE-VERY-NICE_W0QQitemZ270324847437QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item270324847437&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 > > Item # if the link won't work: 270324847437 > > Would anyone know what size rim/tire this MG is sporting and who might > supply/manufacture the rim? > > Thanks, > > John MacDonald > Bedford, NH > 70 B > 59 Sprite > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From herby at herbytoys.com Sun Jan 4 14:50:50 2009 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 13:50:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Rim/Tire Question In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901041304l1b6364a2va5fdf745eff3a3d2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2029632A8B8048E289AC2342BFDFE394@HERBYZ> I think they're the 17 inch factory alloys off a new Mini. The Mini has a 100mm BP which is close to the Spridget 4 inch though not exactly the same. It'd be interesting to know how they were *adapted*. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com > Happy New Year All, > > Quick question regarding this ebay item: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1974-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-REBU ILT-SALVAGE-VERY-NICE_W0QQitemZ270324847437QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ22 82QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item270324847437&_trksid=p4506.c0.m 245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 > > Item # if the link won't work: 270324847437 > > Would anyone know what size rim/tire this MG is sporting and who might > supply/manufacture the rim? > > Thanks, > > John MacDonald > Bedford, NH From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sun Jan 4 15:01:10 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:01:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? Message-ID: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> This is probably old news, but FYI. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/04/psa-dont-mess-with-arizona-license-plates / From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 4 15:16:18 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:16:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> References: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> Message-ID: Texas has had the same law, for about 2 years. ANY part of the word Texas, even the smallest bit of the border on top of the "T" will result in a $200 fine, PER PLATE. WHY THE HELL are cops not out taking care of REAL crime, rather than just looking for ways to fill the state coffers..... On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > This is probably old news, but FYI. > > > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/04/psa-dont-mess-with-arizona-license-plates > / > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jan 4 15:28:00 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:28:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: References: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901041428h1795f1a2g2a43f36260325ce9@mail.gmail.com> I think that law has been on the books here for a long time, "Improper Display". I don't think it is often enforced, though. We are just lately getting cameras that shoot cars that run lights, so maybe this is something soon to come. Cheers, Derf From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Jan 4 15:39:18 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 14:39:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901041428h1795f1a2g2a43f36260325ce9@mail.gmail.com> References: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> <5f00d9910901041428h1795f1a2g2a43f36260325ce9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49613A96.3000108@frontiernet.net> Isn't it more effective to shoot the drivers? Kate > shoot cars that run lights, From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jan 4 16:29:37 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 17:29:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: <49613A96.3000108@frontiernet.net> References: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> <5f00d9910901041428h1795f1a2g2a43f36260325ce9@mail.gmail.com> <49613A96.3000108@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901041529q6e765a5cr9af3e4f6e454f864@mail.gmail.com> The cameras usually see the back of the car as it passes under the red light. They can shoot the light, the license plate, and have a case. OR, are we back on gun control again? > Isn't it more effective to shoot the drivers? > > Kate From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jan 4 16:55:55 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:55:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: <49613A96.3000108@frontiernet.net> References: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> <5f00d9910901041428h1795f1a2g2a43f36260325ce9@mail.gmail.com> <49613A96.3000108@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <0880DA31BD98456E95A0C64A7A41F301@Home> >> shoot cars that run lights, > Isn't it more effective to shoot the drivers? It is really hard to get blood off the seats, which would reduce the value of the car. Michael Rowe From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Jan 4 17:05:58 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:05:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: <0880DA31BD98456E95A0C64A7A41F301@Home> References: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> <5f00d9910901041428h1795f1a2g2a43f36260325ce9@mail.gmail.com> <49613A96.3000108@frontiernet.net> <0880DA31BD98456E95A0C64A7A41F301@Home> Message-ID: <49614EE6.1060702@frontiernet.net> Of course! Silly me. Kate > > It is really hard to get blood off the seats, which would reduce the > value of the car. > > Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 4 17:26:40 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:26:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901041529q6e765a5cr9af3e4f6e454f864@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Nah, Derf!! <> But not only do I LOVE Kate's idea but I want stock in all the ammo manufacturers (CHEAP!) !!! Ditto be the ONLY 'taxing body' on ammo!! Around here, one would need a couple BOXES of ammo DAILY !!!! And how come NOBODY has said they read the article (mentioned on the autoblog page Drew mentioned - Arizona plates - http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/04/psa-dont-mess-with-arizona-license-plates about Chrysler NEW for 2009 Police Car ?!?!? No wonder the Big Three are in trouble - ONLY 367 HP out of a 5.7 Litre HEMI ?!?!?!?!?? LAME is the only word I can think of !!!! I mean after all, WHAT would the HP be if any of their "engineers" had done some WORK??? What would the HP be IF any of them 'folks' had been around in the day(s) of Muscle Cars?? He||, my Camino has just shy of 600 BHP at the rear wheels (yep, at the gas station FAR too often!!). From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Jan 4 17:29:35 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:29:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910901041529q6e765a5cr9af3e4f6e454f864@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That is why the Japanese have the market share, THEY know how to get MORE HP out of a smaller engine.... On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > <> > > Nah, Derf!! > > <> > > But not only do I LOVE Kate's idea but I want stock in all the ammo > manufacturers (CHEAP!) !!! Ditto be the ONLY 'taxing body' on ammo!! > > Around here, one would need a couple BOXES of ammo DAILY !!!! > > And how come NOBODY has said they read the article (mentioned on the > autoblog page Drew mentioned - Arizona plates - > > http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/04/psa-dont-mess-with-arizona-license-plates > about Chrysler NEW for 2009 Police Car ?!?!? > > No wonder the Big Three are in trouble - ONLY 367 HP out of a 5.7 Litre > HEMI ?!?!?!?!?? LAME is the only word I can think of !!!! I mean after > all, > WHAT would the HP be if any of their "engineers" had done some WORK??? > What would the HP be IF any of them 'folks' had been around in the day(s) > of Muscle Cars?? He||, my Camino has just shy of 600 BHP at the rear > wheels > (yep, at the gas station FAR too often!!). > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 4 17:33:56 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:33:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> FAR, FAR TOO EASY to answer, Brad !!!! YOUR 'duly elected' Reps & Sens dream up these types of "laws" and THEN you 'duly elected' Gov SIGNS the 'law', right Kate?? BUT, of course NONE of these sort of 'laws' are proposed by lobbyists (who make 'contributions' to 'campaign funds')!! Now IF you are 'lucky' enough to have a Gov who FORCEABLY 'solicits' those sort of 'donations'.......... Ed (NO, I did NOT vote for the now 'famous' Gov. Blogo) From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jan 4 17:38:19 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 16:38:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B95DADCF5D64FD09B7FB8E07E6AD124@spider> We call this Proactive Revenue Enhancement in Corvallis, Oregon. ========================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed's Shop Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 4:34 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? <> FAR, FAR TOO EASY to answer, Brad !!!! YOUR 'duly elected' Reps & Sens dream up these types of "laws" and THEN you 'duly elected' Gov SIGNS the 'law', right Kate?? BUT, of course NONE of these sort of 'laws' are proposed by lobbyists (who make 'contributions' to 'campaign funds')!! Now IF you are 'lucky' enough to have a Gov who FORCEABLY 'solicits' those sort of 'donations'.......... Ed (NO, I did NOT vote for the now 'famous' Gov. Blogo) _______________________________________________ From wbmcleod at gmail.com Sun Jan 4 18:09:46 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 18:09:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> References: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <94740A06-1ECB-49A3-BF1B-29741F82C41D@gmail.com> What makes this funny, if it weren't so sad, is that 90+% of AZ license plates have a big old green sahuaro cactus, very visible, plonked down in the middle of the plate. If a cop couldn't figure that one out, they aren't looking very hard! My main driver, a Scion, is breaking the law, so I better take the vise grips to the plate surround.... Have a more prosperous New Year! Bill Slightly Classics Tucson On Jan 4, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > This is probably old news, but FYI. > > > > http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/04/psa-dont-mess-with-arizona-license-plates > / From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun Jan 4 18:37:51 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:37:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] "Light restoration"... I think Not! Message-ID: <4960F3EF.6903.2147336@kk7ss.verizon.net> Quote: "Black plate California 1960 Austin Healey Sprite for light restoration.Black plate California 1960 Austin Healey Sprite for light restoration." At least my beast has mosty of the bits and pieces... even if some of them aren't sorted out yet!! ebay #220337801951 -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 4 18:47:09 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:47:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Any Arizona Spridgeteers out there? In-Reply-To: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> References: <5AF01F8479D24EE58B2759F107B5101A@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <4961669D.7050607@comcast.net> NJ has this law and I know of a couple people who have been ticketed. But the EZ Pass electronic toll device that is attached to the front plate conceals ALL of the words New Jersey and that's OK. But put a $2 plate frame on the tag and you are busted! Government lies, cheats, and sucks (literally as in our ex Governor) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 4 18:50:36 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 20:50:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] "Light restoration"... I think Not! In-Reply-To: <4960F3EF.6903.2147336@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <4960F3EF.6903.2147336@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4961676C.4050309@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > Quote: > "Black plate California 1960 Austin Healey Sprite for light restoration. > ebay #220337801951 > That's a weekend project! It's a whole lot "lighter" than the Holy Sprite was and that only took 2 weekends ;) OK so we had a dozen people for 2 weekends . -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cmlove at knology.net Mon Jan 5 07:37:06 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 08:37:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Speedo Speed Sensor Message-ID: <001201c96f43$1582dec0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Has anyone on the list used an electric speedometer on their Midget? Where did you source the Speed sensor? Thanks, Monty Love From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Jan 5 09:52:09 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 11:52:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] H Production Run-offs on Speed today at 12 Message-ID: Just to let everyone know, the H-Production Runnoffs are on Speed at 12 PM today.' Sorry for the late notice, just found out Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto _________________________________________________________________ Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass. http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere _122008 From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Mon Jan 5 11:44:05 2009 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 13:44:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 64-66 Hardtop, Northeast US Pick Up Message-ID: <496254F5.4010103@lehigh.edu> Please don't ask me to explain the brain fart that caused me to spend 11 hours on the road this weekend to bring home a hardtop which doesn't fit any of my three cars. Fits 64-66 1098 cars with roll up windows, and you can have it for what I have in it. http://allentown.craigslist.org/pts/980768592.html Please email off-list with any questions. John Fogelsville, PA From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Mon Jan 5 12:09:58 2009 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John Caffrey) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:09:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Speedo Speed Sensor In-Reply-To: <001201c96f43$1582dec0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> References: <001201c96f43$1582dec0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <49625B06.4050607@lehigh.edu> Monty Love wrote: > Has anyone on the list used an electric speedometer on their Midget? > > Where did you source the Speed sensor? > > Thanks, > > Monty Love > _______________________________________________ > Not on my Midget, but I used a VDO programmable speedometer in my Rotus Seven with a T-5 trans. Simple to program with DIP switches, and no need to hunt for another drive gear. You'll have to check whether there is a sender for our application. http://www.egauges.com/vdo_mult.asp?Type=Speedometer&Series=Vision&Units=E http://usa.vdo.com/products_solutions/cars/performance-instruments/aftermkt_instrum.htm John Fogelsville, PA From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 13:02:34 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 12:02:34 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 20, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I use one for a bicycle, you can get them at most bike shops. I ordered mine from Bike Nashbar (I believe). Easy enough to install, and gives you all the info you need. Rick Bastedo ________________________________________ From: "Monty Love" Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Speedo Speed Sensor Has anyone on the list used an electric speedometer on their Midget? Where did you source the Speed sensor? Thanks, Monty Love ________________________________________ From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 13:36:50 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 15:36:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Speedo Speed Sensor In-Reply-To: <001201c96f43$1582dec0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> References: <001201c96f43$1582dec0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <8c1781040901051236m3bb1bf61t871143906a95b9fb@mail.gmail.com> How about getting a Generic GM sending unit, then going to a transmission shop and have them make an adapter from your old spridget cable? Mine is adapted from my Datsun unit. On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Monty Love wrote: > Has anyone on the list used an electric speedometer on their Midget? > > Where did you source the Speed sensor? > > Thanks, > > Monty Love From endicar at comcast.net Mon Jan 5 14:24:50 2009 From: endicar at comcast.net (Matt Endicott) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:24:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for Clunkers In-Reply-To: <8c1781040901051236m3bb1bf61t871143906a95b9fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <001201c96f43$1582dec0$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> <8c1781040901051236m3bb1bf61t871143906a95b9fb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1231190690.8134.12.camel@me-laptop> Looks like some of our finest in the US Govt want to pay money to take your clunker off the street as a way to encourage new car sales and reduce pollution. Better hide those Spridgets! http://www.aftermarketnews.com/Item/38330/sema_opposes_federal_cash_for_clunkers_program.aspx ME From andrewpayne at intrex.net Mon Jan 5 16:04:04 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:04:04 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for Clunkers Message-ID: Matt, This news is sooo last week's thread;) Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Matt Endicott" To: "Spridget List" Sent: 1/5/09 4:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for Clunkers Looks like some of our finest in the US Govt want to pay money to take your clunker off the street as a way to encourage new car sales and reduce pollution. Better hide those Spridgets! http://www.aftermarketnews.com/Item/38330/sema_opposes_federal_cash_for_clunk ers_program.aspx ME You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jan 5 18:30:45 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:30:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 64-66 Hardtop, Northeast US Pick Up References: <496254F5.4010103@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: We won't ask you to explaiin, we know why. You wanted a hardtop, really bad. Now, Can you explain why you didn't get a Bugeye hardtop instead? I could have used one of those, and you are close by! ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Caffrey" > Please don't ask me to explain the brain fart that caused me to spend 11 > hours on the road this weekend to bring home a hardtop which doesn't fit > any of my three cars. From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Mon Jan 5 19:10:13 2009 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:10:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] 64-66 Hardtop, Northeast US Pick Up Message-ID: <12008486.1231207813309.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> I'd need a secretary taking calls if I was selling a bugeye hardtop, but if I had one it would be a great reason to shop for a bugeye to go under it. John Fogelsville, PA Dean Hedin wrote: We won't ask you to explaiin, we know why. > You wanted a hardtop, really bad. > Now, Can you explain why you didn't get a Bugeye hardtop instead? > I could have used one of those, and you are close by! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Caffrey" From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Mon Jan 5 19:18:08 2009 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:18:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] 64-66 Hardtop, Northeast US Pick Up Message-ID: <20493001.1231208288733.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> The tag on this hardtop says Royal Coachman, Dyna-Plastics, El Monte, CA. I saw that they sold many MGB hardtops under that name, anyone know if they made hardtops for Bugeyes and the later Midgets? My simple search gave a clue that they may still be there making marine parts, and wouldn't it be cool to find they still had the molds? Just a thought. John From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Jan 5 19:23:21 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:23:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 64-66 Hardtop, Northeast US Pick Up In-Reply-To: <12008486.1231207813309.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> References: <12008486.1231207813309.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <49625019.20502.25F692A@kk7ss.verizon.net> Why is it, that the 'stuff' I would like to have is nearly *always* on the other side of the contiment from the Pacific NW,,,, It would probably have fitted my early '65 (64 tub with wind-up windows) Suffering Succotash !!!!!!!! On 5 Jan 2009 at 21:10, John D. Caffrey wrote: >> I'd need a secretary taking calls if I was selling a bugeye >> hardtop, but if I had one it would be a great reason to shop for a >> bugeye to go under it. >> >> John >> >> Fogelsville, PA >> >> Dean Hedin wrote: >> >> We won't ask you to explaiin, we know why. > You wanted a >> hardtop, really bad. > Now, Can you explain why you didn't get a >> Bugeye hardtop instead? > I could have used one of those, and you >> are close by! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John >> Caffrey" >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as kk7ss at verizon.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 5 19:31:08 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 20:31:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 64-66 Hardtop, Northeast US Pick Up References: <12008486.1231207813309.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> <49625019.20502.25F692A@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: > Why is it, that the 'stuff' I would like to have is nearly *always* > on the other side of the contiment from the Pacific NW,,,, Road Trip! From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Mon Jan 5 19:48:33 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 19:48:33 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 64-66 Hardtop, Northeast US Pick Up In-Reply-To: <20493001.1231208288733.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> References: <20493001.1231208288733.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 7:18 PM, John D. Caffrey wrote: The tag on this hardtop says Royal Coachman, Dyna-Plastics, El Monte, CA. I saw that they sold many MGB hardtops under that name, anyone know if they made hardtops for Bugeyes and the later Midgets? My simple search gave a clue that they may still be there making marine parts, and wouldn't it be cool to find they still had the molds? Just a thought. They did make one for the later model cars with fold down tops. Those had a porthole window on the sides... I had one a while back that I sold. It came with a 75 Midget that I had for a time. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com Mon Jan 5 19:50:29 2009 From: nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com (John Mac) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 18:50:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Rim/Tire Question In-Reply-To: <2029632A8B8048E289AC2342BFDFE394@HERBYZ> Message-ID: <128950.77903.qm@web56108.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Good call! Thanks, John M. --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Herby wrote: > From: Herby > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rim/Tire Question > To: "'Spridgets'" > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 1:50 PM > I think they're the 17 inch factory alloys off a new > Mini. The Mini has a > 100mm BP which is close to the Spridget 4 inch though not > exactly the same. > It'd be interesting to know how they were *adapted*. > > Herby > 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) > 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) > 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) > herby at herbytoys.com > www.herbytoys.com > > > Happy New Year All, > > > > Quick question regarding this ebay item: > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1974-MG-MIDGET-CONVERTIBLE-REBU > ILT-SALVAGE-VERY-NICE_W0QQitemZ270324847437QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20TrucksQQddiZ22 > 82QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item270324847437&_trksid=p4506.c0.m > 245&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 > > > > Item # if the link won't work: 270324847437 > > > > Would anyone know what size rim/tire this MG is > sporting and who might > > supply/manufacture the rim? > > > > Thanks, > > > > John MacDonald > > Bedford, NH > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nonrunningmgb at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Jan 5 20:13:10 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:13:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Hardtop for 72 Midget Near Nashville TN Message-ID: >From one of our car club members. Mark Nashville This link will take you to an ad on Craigslist where someone in Mt. Juliet has listed a hard top off a '72 Midget for $300 obo. http://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/981567608.html __._,_.___ From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Jan 5 20:40:25 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 22:40:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for Clunkers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <339A9268-AC4E-499A-9E35-D9B3ECCA8F52@phillymgclub.com> Isn't that last YEAR's thread?? On Jan 5, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > Matt, > > This news is sooo last week's thread;) > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Matt Endicott" > To: "Spridget List" > Sent: 1/5/09 4:24 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for Clunkers > > Looks like some of our finest in the US Govt want to pay money to take > your clunker off the street as a way to encourage new car sales and > reduce pollution. Better hide those Spridgets! > > http://www.aftermarketnews.com/Item/38330/sema_opposes_federal_cash_for_clunk > ers_program.aspx > > ME > You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 5 20:54:18 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:54:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for Clunkers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Drew... <> and so IS Matt (a friend of mine) !! From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 5 20:55:32 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:55:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 64-66 Hardtop, Northeast US Pick Up In-Reply-To: <49625019.20502.25F692A@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <> Greyhound IS cheap shipping, Dave!!! From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 5 20:59:32 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 21:59:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Hardtop for 72 Midget Near Nashville TN In-Reply-To: Message-ID: YO, Dave G. !!! <> YOU have ZERO excuse for (as David L. said) "Road Trip" !!! Practically 'around the corner' !!! From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Jan 5 21:13:06 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:13:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Another Hardtop for 72 Midget Near Nashville TN In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: <496269D2.21181.1BDB9F@kk7ss.verizon.net> Oh yes I do... I just had a MI (mild heart attack) two days ago and contracted Bronchitis(spelling?) probably from the emergency room ! And with all this snow & Ice in this part of the country "I ain't going nowhere. no-how" for a whjile.... But I am going to take a look at the link, Thanks muchly Dag-nab it.... it's snowing again!!!!!!!!!! On 5 Jan 2009 at 21:59, Ed's Shop wrote: >> YOU have ZERO excuse for (as David L. said) "Road Trip" !!! -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From richb at u.washington.edu Tue Jan 6 09:50:31 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:50:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Hardtop on Seattle Craigslist Message-ID: <41589F69DCD9496F8E6483BFC68FF883@psych.washington.edu> One for the early sidecutain Sprite crowd. http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/pts/980142102.html Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From John.Deikis at va.gov Tue Jan 6 09:58:43 2009 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:58:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question Message-ID: You guys know everything, so here's a question for someone who may have training or past experience in this area. 1. Do the officers and board of a car club have liability exposure if someone takes legal action against the club? 2. Does anyone know if "Directors & Officers" insurance is commonly taken out by entities as podunk as a local British car club? 3. If a newsletter advertiser does not "do right" by a customer, and the customer learned of the merchant through the club's newsletter, can the customer name the club as well as the merchant in suit? 4. Anybody know where I can read up on this sort of stuff? Thanks in advance. JohnD (No, I'm not being sued...just don't want to be in the future!) From bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com Tue Jan 6 10:22:37 2009 From: bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com (Blake J. Discher) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:22:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 6, 2009, at 11:58 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > You guys know everything, so here's a question for someone who may > have > training or past experience in this area. Hi John, I have experience both as a previous Detroit Triumph Sports Car Club board member and current National president of The Vintage Triumph Register. I am not an attorney of course, but this information is based on our conversations with more than one. > 1. Do the officers and board of a car club have liability exposure if > someone takes legal action against the club? Yes, very much so. For this reason DTSC and VTR have Officer's Insurance that includes Errors and Omissions. > 2. Does anyone know if "Directors & Officers" insurance is commonly > taken out by entities as podunk as a local British car club? Yes, see above. > 3. If a newsletter advertiser does not "do right" by a customer, and > the > customer learned of the merchant through the club's newsletter, can > the > customer name the club as well as the merchant in suit? Technically yes. From a practical standpoint, no. Anyone can sue anyone or any entity as they desire. The likelihood that your "damaged" customer would name the club is slim. > 4. Anybody know where I can read up on this sort of stuff? It is likely that the National club that serves Spridgets would have this sort of information. VTR for example makes VERY affordable insurance available to it's chapters that covers all of the items you mention above and includes event insurance, which you don't directly ask about. Feel free to call me if you have additional questions. Best regards. ________________________________________________________________________ Blake J. Discher, President Vintage Triumph Register http://www.vtr.org 1363 East Fisher Freeway, Suite 8, Detroit, MI 48207 | P 313.259.4460 | F 313.447.4100 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 6 10:25:43 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:25:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question References: Message-ID: <03D05EF941F14820871E86717694497B@NilesAD.von.gov> John, I know that the Windy City Miata Club looked into the D&O insurance and was told that it was not recommended for a unpaid board of a non-profit car club. I also know that the Chicagoland MG Club had a situation a number of years ago wherein someone tried to include them in a lawsuit against a less-than-scrupulous mechanic who advertised in their newsletter. IIRC, the club was exonerated, but they ceased accepting paid ads in the newsletter. If you send an email to president at chicagolandmgclub.com , the current president (Jim Evans) would probably have details on the lawsuit situation. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 6 11:25:13 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:25:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <55B242F92F38457F8D8D06576D8AA51C@OwnerPC> John, Our local Triumph club looked into that several years ago. We found that non-profit organizations were pretty much safe from frivolous (or any kind, actually) litigation. However, this is Pennsylvania and you're in VA(?), so, your best bet would be to spend a few bucks with a local attorney to determine your actual exposure. That way, you can make a genuinely informed decision. Good luck. Bud Osborne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:58 AM Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question > You guys know everything, so here's a question for someone who may have > training or past experience in this area. > > > > 1. Do the officers and board of a car club have liability exposure if > someone takes legal action against the club? > > > > 2. Does anyone know if "Directors & Officers" insurance is commonly > taken out by entities as podunk as a local British car club? > > > > 3. If a newsletter advertiser does not "do right" by a customer, and the > customer learned of the merchant through the club's newsletter, can the > customer name the club as well as the merchant in suit? > > > > 4. Anybody know where I can read up on this sort of stuff? > > > > Thanks in advance. > > JohnD > > (No, I'm not being sued...just don't want to be in the future!) From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jan 6 11:32:20 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:32:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: <55B242F92F38457F8D8D06576D8AA51C@OwnerPC> References: <55B242F92F38457F8D8D06576D8AA51C@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <41669C2FD7D041E581878B6EB2C4858B@spider> What he said. ...bill in oregon ================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Osbourne Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:25 AM To: Deikis, John G; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question John, Our local Triumph club looked into that several years ago. We found that non-profit organizations were pretty much safe from frivolous (or any kind, actually) litigation. However, this is Pennsylvania and you're in VA(?), so, your best bet would be to spend a few bucks with a local attorney to determine your actual exposure. That way, you can make a genuinely informed decision. Good luck. Bud Osborne From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Jan 6 12:07:14 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:07:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 6, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > You guys know everything, so here's a question for someone who may > have > training or past experience in this area. > > > > 1. Do the officers and board of a car club have liability exposure if > someone takes legal action against the club? AS current VP and former P of the SAAB CLub of North America we found it hard to get volunteers if we didn't carry the insurance. > > > > > 2. Does anyone know if "Directors & Officers" insurance is commonly > taken out by entities as podunk as a local British car club? We ran for a few years without it but the risk was too great, I mean car club folk organize car events with people in cars.. that can hit things.. we are trying to set ours up so that local clubs will be covered under an umbrella and not have to worry about such things.. > > > > > 3. If a newsletter advertiser does not "do right" by a customer, and > the > customer learned of the merchant through the club's newsletter, can > the > customer name the club as well as the merchant in suit? Like they all said... > > > > 4. Anybody know where I can read up on this sort of stuff? > Find an attorney who like LBC's.. he may work for free... Lester > > > Thanks in advance. > > JohnD > > (No, I'm not being sued...just don't want to be in the future!) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 6 12:18:41 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 13:18:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0901061118t7ce4ecc6x753cddab57330445@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > > > 1. Do the officers and board of a car club have liability exposure if > someone takes legal action against the club? If the club is (and it should be - its cheap and easy) incorporated as a non-profit corporation you are safe. The club can be sued for its assets, but individual officers/directors are safe. Contact your Secretary of State's office. You can usually meet all the incorporation requirements online. If you regularly handle sponsorships and donations you should also file an IRS form 1023 and get a 501(c)(3) status with the IRS. Then you can extend tax deduction to your donors making it more attractive for them to give you stuff. > 2. Does anyone know if "Directors & Officers" insurance is commonly > taken out by entities as podunk as a local British car club? Given the above it is an unnecessary expense. > > 3. If a newsletter advertiser does not "do right" by a customer, and the > customer learned of the merchant through the club's newsletter, can the > customer name the club as well as the merchant in suit? If you are a registered non-profit corporation all they can sue for is the corporation assets and they are unlikely to get even that if your newsletter contains a disclaimer in each issue. > 4. Anybody know where I can read up on this sort of stuff? Google "Non-profit Club incorporation benefits" or something like that. Also check out LegalZoom.com. I had to find out about all this stuff by paying lawyers exorbitant fees only to discover I could have done it all myself at minimal cost. The lawyers have a real racket going here. Anyone with half a brain can do this stuff *IF* they find the instructions. The lawyers keep the instructions to themselves.... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Tue Jan 6 12:28:28 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:28:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question Message-ID: <2481301c97034$f384b260$116a010a@mail2world.com> One thing I learned as a member of the Cosworth Vega Owners Association is that if the club offers merchandise for sale, it can only sell to club members, otherwise it won't be able to keep a non-profit status. The CVOA makes available otherwise discontinued parts (such as timing belts) only to members for exactly this reason. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Jim Johnson [bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: 1/6/2009 2:19:41 PM To: John.Deikis at va.gov;John.Deikis at va.gov Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Deikis, John G wrote: > > > 1. Do the officers and board of a car club have liability exposure if > someone takes legal action against the club? If the club is (and it should be - its cheap and easy) incorporated as a non-profit corporation you are safe. The club can be sued for its assets, but individual officers/directors are safe. Contact your Secretary of State's office. You can usually meet all the incorporation requirements online. If you regularly handle sponsorships and donations you should also file an IRS form 1023 and get a 501(c)(3) status with the IRS. Then you can extend tax deduction to your donors making it more attractive for them to give you stuff. > 2. Does anyone know if "Directors & Officers" insurance is commonly > taken out by entities as podunk as a local British car club? Given the above it is an unnecessary expense. > > 3. If a newsletter advertiser does not "do right" by a customer, and the > customer learned of the merchant through the club's newsletter, can the > customer name the club as well as the merchant in suit? If you are a registered non-profit corporation all they can sue for is the corporation assets and they are unlikely to get even that if your newsletter contains a disclaimer in each issue. > 4. Anybody know where I can read up on this sort of stuff? Google "Non-profit Club incorporation benefits" or something like that. Also check out LegalZoom.com. I had to find out about all this stuff by paying lawyers exorbitant fees only to discover I could have done it all myself at minimal cost. The lawyers have a real racket going here. Anyone with half a brain can do this stuff *IF* they find the instructions. The lawyers keep the instructions to themselves.... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson _______________________________________________ From markwemple at yahoo.com Tue Jan 6 12:30:10 2009 From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:30:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: <55B242F92F38457F8D8D06576D8AA51C@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <254584.86222.qm@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Definitely best to ask counsel in your state but, in general, the reason to incorporate (or the creation of anything similar, like a LLP, LLC, etc) is to limit liability, this goes for not-for-profits as well. You will need to be very specific about your concerns and why! Peircing the corporate veil is possible and some of that comes from the how and why of the incoporating process itself. Remember that a not-for-profit follows similar rules and for its well being, it should be set up with the assistance of a good lawyer and, even more important, a good accountant. I would also speak with someone from a well established car club to see how they did it and some pitfalls. PCA is based out of VA. Mark D. Wemple, Esq. 359 Dun Robbin Drive Severna Park, Maryland 21146 Tel. (410) 987-5831/ Fax. (410) 987-1410 --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Bud Osbourne wrote: > From: Bud Osbourne > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question > To: "Deikis, John G" , spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 1:25 PM > John, > Our local Triumph club looked into that several years ago. > We found that > non-profit organizations were pretty much safe from > frivolous (or any kind, > actually) litigation. However, this is Pennsylvania and > you're in VA(?), > so, your best bet would be to spend a few bucks with a > local attorney to > determine your actual exposure. That way, you can make a > genuinely informed > decision. > Good luck. > Bud Osborne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Deikis, John G" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:58 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question > > > > You guys know everything, so here's a question for > someone who may have > > training or past experience in this area. > > > > > > > > 1. Do the officers and board of a car club have > liability exposure if > > someone takes legal action against the club? > > > > > > > > 2. Does anyone know if "Directors & > Officers" insurance is commonly > > taken out by entities as podunk as a local British car > club? > > > > > > > > 3. If a newsletter advertiser does not "do > right" by a customer, and the > > customer learned of the merchant through the > club's newsletter, can the > > customer name the club as well as the merchant in > suit? > > > > > > > > 4. Anybody know where I can read up on this sort of > stuff? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > JohnD > > > > (No, I'm not being sued...just don't want to > be in the future!) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as markwemple at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tinydog at snet.net Tue Jan 6 12:34:43 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:34:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901061118t7ce4ecc6x753cddab57330445@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901061118t7ce4ecc6x753cddab57330445@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <010620091934.14125.4963B2530004F3900000372D22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> attorney tinydog esq submitted: While you are on the road to that conclusion, you are still on the hook for the legal defense costs, i.e attorney fees. -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" : -------------- > If you are a registered non-profit corporation all they can sue for is the > corporation assets and they are unlikely to get even that if your newsletter > contains a disclaimer in each issue. From bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com Tue Jan 6 12:59:50 2009 From: bdischer.lists at blakedischer.com (Blake J. Discher) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:59:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: <010620091934.14125.4963B2530004F3900000372D22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <43840a7e0901061118t7ce4ecc6x753cddab57330445@mail.gmail.com> <010620091934.14125.4963B2530004F3900000372D22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:34 PM, tinydog at snet.net wrote: > While you are on the road to that conclusion, you are still on the > hook for the legal defense costs, i.e attorney fees. Exactly. And I think this is the important factor that may be being overlooked in this thread. Despite the fact that the plaintiff may not prevail, you will still need an attorney to defend you and/or your club. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Insure your club. It's inexpensive. ________________________________________________________________________ Blake J. Discher Firefly Studios, LLC http://www.fireflystudios.com | http://www.go-seo.com 1363 East Fisher Freeway, Suite 8, Detroit, MI 48207 | P 313.259.4460 | F 313.447.4100 From abcoz at hky.com Tue Jan 6 13:43:02 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:43:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0901061118t7ce4ecc6x753cddab57330445@mail.gmail.com><010620091934.14125.4963B2530004F3900000372D22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <6FE08B2A1F4D41B783BA51EE1F4C3B2D@OwnerPC> Blake, You and the wee dog make a good point.......ever if it is a "slam-dunk" that we will prevail/be excused as defendants in an extremely frivolous suit, we must still retain counsel to get ourselves to that point. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake J. Discher" To: Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question > On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:34 PM, tinydog at snet.net wrote: >> While you are on the road to that conclusion, you are still on the >> hook for the legal defense costs, i.e attorney fees. > > > > Exactly. And I think this is the important factor that may be being > overlooked in this thread. Despite the fact that the plaintiff may > not prevail, you will still need an attorney to defend you and/or your > club. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Insure your club. It's > inexpensive. > ________________________________________________________________________ > Blake J. Discher > Firefly Studios, LLC > http://www.fireflystudios.com | http://www.go-seo.com > 1363 East Fisher Freeway, Suite 8, Detroit, MI 48207 | P 313.259.4460 > | F 313.447.4100 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as abcoz at hky.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Jan 6 13:49:46 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:49:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: <6FE08B2A1F4D41B783BA51EE1F4C3B2D@OwnerPC> References: <43840a7e0901061118t7ce4ecc6x753cddab57330445@mail.gmail.com><010620091934.14125.4963B2530004F3900000372D22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <6FE08B2A1F4D41B783BA51EE1F4C3B2D@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <4963C3EA.4080703@frontiernet.net> Many attorneys are classic car owners. Find one in your area and try to arrange pro bono counsel, should it become necessary. Kate > as defendants in an extremely frivolous suit, we must still retain > counsel to get ourselves to that point. > Bud Osbourne From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Tue Jan 6 16:29:33 2009 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 15:29:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Speedo Speed Sensor Message-ID: <578615.76793.qm@web50609.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=KC5279&CATID=&keywords=speedo&SPECIAL =&form=KEYWORD&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceM ax=&SUBCATID= B Kit comes with a sensor and magnets. B (i noticed th "=" at the end of the URL didn't get included...you may need to type it yourself) or, search for "speedo" at www.jaycar.com.au you may be able to buy the sensor and magnets separately. Andy B --- On Tue, 6/1/09, Monty Love wrote: From: Monty Love Subject: [Spridgets] Electric Speedo Speed Sensor To: "'Spridgets'" Received: Tuesday, 6 January, 2009, 1:37 AM Has anyone on the list used an electric speedometer on their Midget? Where did you source the Speed sensor?B Thanks, Monty Love You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 6 16:59:07 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:59:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question In-Reply-To: <254584.86222.qm@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > to limit liability As former president of the Universal X Corporation, I chose to further limit my liability by resigning from the board, selling my stock in the corporation, and becoming a salaried employee of the Universal X Corporation. I now feel relatively protected, but it's difficult to explain to fans that I'm not a member of the group. BZ From endicar at comcast.net Tue Jan 6 18:54:43 2009 From: endicar at comcast.net (Matt Endicott) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:54:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for Clunkers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1231293283.13209.8.camel@me-laptop> Hey, Drew's right. I had something like 7200 unread messages with this group so I deserved the criticism and I'm not offended. This group has more going on (I'm not complaining) than the MMM, T-List, Morgan and TABC group combined. I just can't keep up with it and get anything done so it mostly just goes into it's email folder and stays there until I have time or need to search for something. BR, Matt On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 21:54 -0600, Ed's Shop wrote: > Drew... > > <> > > and so IS Matt (a friend of mine) !! > _______________________________________________ From herby at herbytoys.com Tue Jan 6 19:34:51 2009 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 18:34:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Hardtop on Seattle Craigslist In-Reply-To: <41589F69DCD9496F8E6483BFC68FF883@psych.washington.edu> Message-ID: <21A971F92597484DAF6E530C51A5D800@HERBYZ> Very nice top, especially for the price. It looks to me like a Bugeye top though with that *arch* in the back. I thought most MK II tops were flat across the back. I know my factory style top is. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - patiently waiting) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com One for the early sidecutain Sprite crowd. http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/pts/980142102.html Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jan 7 06:53:49 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:53:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Bugeye restoration on youtube from England Message-ID: <205cef430901070553n3e57d59elbd1e54e71234b97c@mail.gmail.com> Hi Spridgeteers, I found this cool youtube of an interview in England with a gal who restored a rusty Bugeye with her dad. It is a nice video but I would have like to see a bit more of the car prior to the restoration. Does anyone know how I can find a website of a show in England called Wreck Rescue, I was not able to locate their site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M94MBJnRW0g&NR=1 Enjoy and Happy 2009 Linda From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 7 07:10:40 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:10:40 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Bugeye restoration on youtube from England In-Reply-To: <205cef430901070553n3e57d59elbd1e54e71234b97c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: This one? http://www.wreckrescue.com/ http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/wreckrescue.htm http://www.markevans.co.uk/ ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget Chat Group" Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Bugeye restoration on youtube from England Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:53:49 -0500 Hi Spridgeteers, I found this cool youtube of an interview in England with a gal who restored a rusty Bugeye with her dad. It is a nice video but I would have like to see a bit more of the car prior to the restoration. Does anyone know how I can find a website of a show in England called Wreck Rescue, I was not able to locate their site. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M94MBJnRW0g&NR=1 Enjoy and Happy 2009 Linda From shelden3 at pldi.net Wed Jan 7 08:19:56 2009 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 09:19:56 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Bugeye restoration on youtube from England In-Reply-To: <205cef430901070553n3e57d59elbd1e54e71234b97c@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430901070553n3e57d59elbd1e54e71234b97c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46552.164.58.184.10.1231341596.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Everything you need is on the Youtube page, on the left of the window, is a title "More from guestxxBG". Just click this and it will drop down a menu of other videos from the person that posted the one you sent out. There are more videos on this car there. Great show! Charlie 59 Sprite project From John.Deikis at va.gov Wed Jan 7 12:49:16 2009 From: John.Deikis at va.gov (Deikis, John G) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:49:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question Message-ID: Thanks to everyone for your input and advice. It was good information to digest. Incorporation is not my issue-the club's incorporated, but it's not anything on the scale of Porsche Club of America, so I don't want to compare watermelons to grapes here. Some folks have confused "Not-for-profit" with "charitable not-for-profit." They ain't the same. A car club is not a charity or a church or a food pantry. The issue of frivolous suits is a good one that we have considered. An easy way to lose a frivolous suit is to not show up with a lawyer. And a lot of mechanics are old car buffs too, but you can't pull into their shop on a Monday morning and expect pro-bono work just because of that. I know I can talk to a lawyer "as a favor" but I don't know any lawyer car buffs who would follow a liability case through the courts over several years for free. They have to pay their rent too. I think Not-for-profit D&O insurance is the way to go. Now, to find the best broker. Haggerty was suggested, and they have a connection to collector cars. Anyone else have a lead? Thanks. John From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Jan 7 12:55:38 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:55:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Collision Insurance?? Message-ID: <496508BA.50805@verizon.net> Hey Youse Guyz! It's that time again, insurance renewal. Aside from the Midget, we have two 1997 Honda sedans used for rainy/snowy conditions. Both still carry 250-deductible collision for no known reason. Given the age of these cars, does this make any sense?? What about the 100-deductible Comprehensive?? These ain't expensive, but if I cancel them do I hurt myself?? thanks 'n all chuck From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jan 7 13:02:15 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 12:02:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Collision Insurance?? In-Reply-To: <496508BA.50805@verizon.net> References: <496508BA.50805@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4409D9A65756403CB3A1977821260DB6@spider> You might ask your Agent. Some states require things you might not be aware of. If you don't have a local agent, you might consider shopping an old-line company thru a local independent agent. Sometimes being able to do a face-to-face can count for a lot. ...bill in oregon ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chuck Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:56 AM To: spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Collision Insurance?? Hey Youse Guyz! It's that time again, insurance renewal. Aside from the Midget, we have two 1997 Honda sedans used for rainy/snowy conditions. Both still carry 250-deductible collision for no known reason. Given the age of these cars, does this make any sense?? What about the 100-deductible Comprehensive?? These ain't expensive, but if I cancel them do I hurt myself?? thanks 'n all chuck _______________________________________________ From abcoz at hky.com Wed Jan 7 13:17:38 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 15:17:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Collision Insurance?? In-Reply-To: <496508BA.50805@verizon.net> References: <496508BA.50805@verizon.net> Message-ID: <747A19E76C704EDB8DE98669343C1179@OwnerPC> Chuck, Figure that virtually any significant collision would cause sufficient damage to total any '97 Honda. With that in mind, why spend the money for any collision coverage? Just go with liability & comprehensive coverage and you'll save plenty. If you are worried about not being covered for collision, in an "at fault" accident; just put the money saved from collision premiums into a savings account. You'll be much better off in the long run. Personally, I've never carried collision coverage on anything (including my MGs and my Porsche 356) but my wife's Passat, and my BMW 2002Tii ("back in the day"). I figure that, in the event of an at fault collision, I'm going to fix the damn thing myself, anyway, and if I'm stupid enough to bend it I deserve the financial pain that goes with it. So far, in 46 or 47 years of driving, the only cars that we've had at fault claims with were the ones we've had collision coverage on. Maybe a lesson to be learned, here ;) Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "chuck" To: "spridget list" Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Collision Insurance?? > Hey Youse Guyz! It's that time again, insurance renewal. > > Aside from the Midget, we have two 1997 Honda sedans > used for rainy/snowy conditions. Both still carry 250-deductible > collision for no known reason. Given the age of these cars, does > this make any sense?? What about the 100-deductible > Comprehensive?? > > These ain't expensive, but if I cancel them do I hurt myself?? > > thanks 'n all > > chuck From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Jan 7 13:39:13 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:39:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Collision Insurance?? In-Reply-To: <747A19E76C704EDB8DE98669343C1179@OwnerPC> References: <496508BA.50805@verizon.net> <747A19E76C704EDB8DE98669343C1179@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <496512F1.2050009@verizon.net> Prolly forgot to mention, the collision on each car for 6 months is only about 35 bucks, that's $70 a year each, or a grand total of $140. Not a lot to get worried about in the grand scheme of a recent financial meltdown. Really more curious of the value of the collision insurance for an 11 year old econobox -- as in why bother?. chuck From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jan 7 14:53:23 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:53:23 EST Subject: [Spridgets] OT: Collision Insurance?? Message-ID: Only if you crash. In a message dated 07/01/2009 20:02:58 GMT Standard Time, corvallis at peoplepc.com writes: but if I cancel them do I hurt myself?? From peter at nosimport.com Wed Jan 7 14:58:57 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:58:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Bugeye...... Message-ID: <200901071358732.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Ebay item 220337801951 Nuthin' good on this car. Is someone really going to buy it? Peter C From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 7 15:29:20 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:29:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Roanoke Area? Message-ID: Anybody in the Roanoke area? I have a possible line on some British cars in the area, but it is darned far from me. It seems there is a guy with a lot of land who has been dragging British cars home for years and is now interested in unloading them. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 7 15:31:35 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:31:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC: car club legal question References: Message-ID: <6CC7CA426D8F4C46806044D496E831C8@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deikis, John G" I think Not-for-profit D&O insurance is the way to go. Now, to find the best broker. Haggerty was suggested, and they have a connection to collector cars. Anyone else have a lead? Thanks. John _______________________________________________ John, go to the largest "independent" insurance office in your area. The State Farms, Allstates etc. are captive companies and can only sell their own products, which may or may not be what is best for you. An independent can, and does, deal with a wide variety of companies and can find the right one for your particular situation. Ask to speak to their top commercial P&C expert. And it doesn't hurt to shop it around a little bit. Larry From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 7 15:47:01 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:47:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 700 HP / 2,323 ft/lbs Yikes! Message-ID: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090107/FREE/901079987 No, it won't fit in a Spridget. From Miniac7 at aol.com Wed Jan 7 16:00:45 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:00:45 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Roanoke Area? Message-ID: David, It's a 4.5 hours drive for me, and may be worth my time to go look and see what it's all about. I'd be happy to report back to the list once I do. Send me the guys info and I'll try and schedule a time to go for a visit. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. **************New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Jan 7 18:18:55 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:18:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1960 Bugeye for sale in TEXAS In-Reply-To: References: <7E353BB3CF9E424497A49710A3A9B788@internetpc> <006101c96e61$13618110$951b4c72@57549a31e5dd483> <21C16F2CCB2342159E3680C4D207AD6C@Home> Message-ID: <000501c9712f$14fc4b10$3ef4e130$@net> Dont know if anybody is interested but a guy I know has a 1960 bugeye for sale. Right now It is a rolling chassis that is in primer. He bought the car from the original owner, disassembled it for minor and I do mean minor bodywork and now he has lost interest in it. On a scale of 1 to 10 the body is a 9. Factory floor pans, trunk pan, sills, rockers, nose, and perfect beading. All the removed parts are bagged and labeled. It will need doors or at least the very bottom flat part repaired. (which is the ONLY place it has ANY rust) and naturally the other parts refurbished. Has the original 948 with smooth case trans.. No financial interest in it, just trying to find a good home for it. If my wife wasnt sick I would try to finagle a way to get it but right now it is out of the question. I WILL kick my ass down the road but now isnt a good time financially unless someone wants to loan me 5k against Iris with a 4 year payback + interest .!!! I have pictures of the car before it was disassembled and pictures of it now as it sits. I can forward them to whomever might be interested. Todays word from him is that next week the car goes on EBay. He is asking 5K for it and is VERY firm on the price. I have been trying to get him to come down on the price but he wont budge. Otherwise I might have been able to tuck it away here for me. Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.4/1880 - Release Date: 1/7/2009 8:49 AM From jjj at acsnet.com Wed Jan 7 18:44:41 2009 From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:44:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] Auto Statistics!!! Message-ID: <4979.66.172.236.73.1231379081.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> Wondering if any of the learn-ed subscribers can direct me to a site that has all stats on all auto's. I used a site a while ago that listed nearly everything you would want to know about even 50's berkeley's but never kept track of it. Think it was something to do with the insurance industry. Like to know all stats on a 80 210 Datsun.(hp,wt,mpg) Thanks in advance!!! Kurt A From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jan 7 18:59:09 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 19:59:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Bugeye...... In-Reply-To: <200901071358732.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <> Somebody DID for $4k+, PPP !! From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 8 05:57:11 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 04:57:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) Message-ID: <994241.53276.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHqFF9uyxc From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jan 8 08:43:30 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:43:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) In-Reply-To: <994241.53276.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <010820091543.24786.49661F22000ABEAF000060D222230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: Dear Mr. Zoom, Nice noodling. How about a solo CD as a follow-up? -------------- Original message from Ron Soave : -------------- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHqFF9uyxc From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 08:56:18 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:56:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Bugeye restoration on youtube from England In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430901070553n3e57d59elbd1e54e71234b97c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430901080756u294b0248g2d2d8cd2398b78b3@mail.gmail.com> Robert thanks that's it. Lin On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Robert Duquette wrote: > This one? > http://www.wreckrescue.com/ > > http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/wreckrescue.htm > http://www.markevans.co.uk/ > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Linda Grunthaner" > To: "Spridget Chat Group" > Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Bugeye restoration on youtube from England > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:53:49 -0500 > > > Hi Spridgeteers, > I found this cool youtube of an interview in England with a gal who > restored > a rusty Bugeye with her dad. It is a nice video but I would have like to > see > a bit more of the car prior to the restoration. Does anyone know how I can > find a website of a show in England called Wreck Rescue, I was not able to > locate their site. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M94MBJnRW0g&NR=1 > > Enjoy and Happy 2009 > Linda > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 09:00:20 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:00:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Bugeye restoration on youtube from England In-Reply-To: <40963.164.58.184.10.1231341518.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> References: <205cef430901070553n3e57d59elbd1e54e71234b97c@mail.gmail.com> <40963.164.58.184.10.1231341518.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Message-ID: <205cef430901080800j16be99b4sf42da7f9dc1f5ba2@mail.gmail.com> Charlie, Thanks for the "MOTHER LOAD". I can hardly wait to see them all. Lin On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 10:18 AM, wrote: > Everything you need is on the Youtube page, on the left of the window, is > a title "More from guestxxBG". Just click this and it will drop down a > menu of other videos from the person that posted the one you sent out. > There are more videos on this car there. > > Great show! > Charlie > 59 Sprite project From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jan 8 09:40:48 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:40:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) In-Reply-To: <010820091543.24786.49661F22000ABEAF000060D222230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <994241.53276.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <010820091543.24786.49661F22000ABEAF000060D222230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <004d01c971af$dce1f0a0$96a5d1e0$@net> The diversity of this list NEVER ceases to amaze me:) Great guitar and it sure must feel good to finally be recognized Billy. Congrats:) What about that solo cde??? Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:44 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) tinydog sez: Dear Mr. Zoom, Nice noodling. How about a solo CD as a follow-up? -------------- Original message from Ron Soave : -------------- > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHqFF9uyxc You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 8 10:27:28 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:27:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Is this someone from the list? NO LBC Message-ID: Glad that this wasnt me!!! Are they sure it was a guy? Oh! I guess it was cold  ;) http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0106091vail1.html From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 10:28:53 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:28:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) In-Reply-To: <004d01c971af$dce1f0a0$96a5d1e0$@net> References: <994241.53276.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <010820091543.24786.49661F22000ABEAF000060D222230703629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <004d01c971af$dce1f0a0$96a5d1e0$@net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901080928x2ddca641y1140b323b2898384@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations, Billy!! This video reminds me of my age however... I found myself enjoying the Chet Atkins tune far more than the "X" clips... Sorry!! ;-) Keep smiling though.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > The diversity of this list NEVER ceases to amaze me:) Great guitar and it > sure must feel good to finally be recognized Billy. Congrats:) What about > that solo cde??? > > Leo > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:44 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) > > tinydog sez: > > Dear Mr. Zoom, > > Nice noodling. > > How about a solo CD as a follow-up? > > -------------- Original message from Ron Soave : > -------------- From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 10:33:38 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:33:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Is this someone from the list? NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0901080933j1c5248c6u1762023b781eceda@mail.gmail.com> Trust me - No one who owns a Spridget can afford Vail.... -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jan 8 10:57:43 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 09:57:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) References: <994241.53276.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3B4727347F3841998F961837DF141F30@HP> Very nice. Keep up the good pickin & grinnin Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:57 AM Subject: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHqFF9uyxc From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 11:39:28 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:39:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Billy Zoom Message-ID: <37dc82d40901081039i3cddd7ccq2d5f43d8a6d0bcf7@mail.gmail.com> Billys Gretsch From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 11:40:25 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 10:40:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Billy Zoom Message-ID: <37dc82d40901081040o31fdf5dg691aa8162ff4bde8@mail.gmail.com> Billy's Gretsch - Made in the Fender Factory, Fender Custom Shop in Corona? Great guitar - would love to own one! Kirk From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 8 11:55:22 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:55:22 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Bad Bugeye...... Message-ID: It does have a now hard to find alternator bracket on the engine. In a message dated 07/01/2009 21:59:16 GMT Standard Time, peter at nosimport.com writes: Ebay item 220337801951 Nuthin' good on this car. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 8 11:57:18 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:57:18 EST Subject: [Spridgets] 700 HP / 2,323 ft/lbs Yikes! Message-ID: I think it was the old model I drove at the test track - fitted with a standard Uk speed limiter of 555 or 57mph. Brrmm, Brr br Brmmmm Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 07/01/2009 22:47:18 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090107/FREE/901079987 No, it won't fit in a Spridget. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 8 12:06:45 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 14:06:45 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Is this someone from the list? NO LBC Message-ID: It was in today's newspapers here in the UK - apparently he was well hung.. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 08/01/2009 17:27:51 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: Glad that this wasnt me!!! Are they sure it was a guy? Oh! I guess it was cold  ;) http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0106091vail1.html From lists at woozy.com Thu Jan 8 13:00:04 2009 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:00:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) In-Reply-To: <3B4727347F3841998F961837DF141F30@HP> References: <994241.53276.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3B4727347F3841998F961837DF141F30@HP> Message-ID: <49665B44.2070707@woozy.com> Nice guitar Billy. I know it's not in the same league but my wife got me a silver sparkle Gretsch Electromatic for Christmas and I'm totally loving it. Cheers, Robert Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > Very nice. Keep up the good pickin & grinnin > > Larry Miller > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 4:57 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] For all you guitar shoppers (Nlbc) > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZHqFF9uyxc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lists at woozy.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 13:22:39 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 14:22:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Is this someone from the list? NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0901081222y360266ebl414a382ecc5eba01@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:06 PM, wrote: > It was in today's newspapers here in the UK - apparently he was well > hung.. Then there was the plastic surgeon who hung himself.... -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jan 8 14:30:26 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 13:30:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th Message-ID: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> I have spoken with the marketing director at one of our hotel casinos and received the following information that might be of interest to those undecided on a location. Rooms $32.50 per night. At this time, All of May and the first two weeks of June, 2011 are available. The nice thing about this hotel is the fact that the pool is completely enclosed within a courtyard, so the wind won't chill swimmers or loungers. The rooms are clean and comfortable, and the staff bends over backwards to make your stay pleasant. There is a 24 hour restaurant off the lobby and 24 hour shuttles to take guests to other casinos, if desired. In the casinos, soft drinks and coffee are provided free in the self serve machines, and beer and hard liquor are also free for those who wish to invest a penny or two in either the slots or the table games. People playing the penny slots are treated as well as the high rollers. The parking lot is patrolled regularly by security personnel and employees and customers crossing it to the partner casino across the street. In the five years that I have been here, I have never had anything stolen from my unlocked vehicle. They would prepare an all you can eat buffet in a private room for about $17.95 per person depending on our choice of meats. This would include two selections of meat and enough garden products to satisfy the hunger of our favorite vegetarians. I know Jose, the head chef, personally, and he takes great pride in what he prepares. The local Morodders hot rod club would be happy to provide suggestions for tours and such, as would the Harley folks. Kate From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 8 15:22:43 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:22:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Is this someone from the list? NO LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Shrinkage! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 8 15:31:08 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:31:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Billy Zoom In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901081040o31fdf5dg691aa8162ff4bde8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Made in the Fender Factory, Fender Custom Shop in Corona? Not really. It's a separate entity. It's on the same property, but it's not the same shop or the same people, or the same equipment. From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jan 8 15:37:55 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:37:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <365832CCE9954D16A23C3BAF4C8BC638@Home> I vote for Kate's hotel. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jan 8 15:44:49 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:44:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <365832CCE9954D16A23C3BAF4C8BC638@Home> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <365832CCE9954D16A23C3BAF4C8BC638@Home> Message-ID: <200901081444201.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Where do you suppose it is? Peter C == At 04:37 PM 1/8/2009, Michael Rowe wrote: >I vote for Kate's hotel. > >Michael Rowe >'74 Midget >Long Island, NY From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 15:48:02 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 16:48:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <200901081444201.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <365832CCE9954D16A23C3BAF4C8BC638@Home> <200901081444201.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: Elko NV On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Where do you suppose it is? > > Peter C > == > > At 04:37 PM 1/8/2009, Michael Rowe wrote: > >> I vote for Kate's hotel. >> >> Michael Rowe >> '74 Midget >> Long Island, NY >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jan 8 15:57:36 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:57:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <365832CCE9954D16A23C3BAF4C8BC638@Home> <200901081444201.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <200901081457217.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Oh.... just East of Winnemucca, then. Why didn't you say so? Ed = At 04:48 PM 1/8/2009, Brad Fornal wrote: >Elko NV > >On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Peter Caldwell ><peter at nosimport.com> wrote: >Where do you suppose it is? > > Peter C >== > >At 04:37 PM 1/8/2009, Michael Rowe wrote: >I vote for Kate's hotel. > >Michael Rowe >'74 Midget >Long Island, NY From nases at verizon.net Thu Jan 8 17:39:24 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:39:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <263485E7-1C2F-4F43-AD60-9DDF2DA39994@verizon.net> It sounds great. Crap, now I gotta buy a trailer. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jan 8, 2009, at 4:30 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > I have spoken with the marketing director at one of our hotel > casinos and received the following information that might be of > interest to those undecided on a location. > > Rooms $32.50 per night. At this time, All of May and the first two > weeks of June, 2011 are available. The nice thing about this hotel > is the fact that the pool is completely enclosed within a courtyard, > so the wind won't chill swimmers or loungers. The rooms are clean > and comfortable, and the staff bends over backwards to make your > stay pleasant. There is a 24 hour restaurant off the lobby and 24 > hour shuttles to take guests to other casinos, if desired. > > In the casinos, soft drinks and coffee are provided free in the self > serve machines, and beer and hard liquor are also free for those who > wish to invest a penny or two in either the slots or the table > games. People playing the penny slots are treated as well as the > high rollers. > > The parking lot is patrolled regularly by security personnel and > employees and customers crossing it to the partner casino across the > street. In the five years that I have been here, I have never had > anything stolen from my unlocked vehicle. > > They would prepare an all you can eat buffet in a private room for > about $17.95 per person depending on our choice of meats. This > would include two selections of meat and enough garden products to > satisfy the hunger of our favorite vegetarians. I know Jose, the > head chef, personally, and he takes great pride in what he prepares. > The local Morodders hot rod club would be happy to provide > suggestions for tours and such, as would the Harley folks. > > Kate > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nases at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 8 17:54:21 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:54:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <263485E7-1C2F-4F43-AD60-9DDF2DA39994@verizon.net> Message-ID: <06FBB1C7D9394D49A3A8050CF1341711@midget> > It sounds great. Crap, now I gotta buy a trailer. Phil, You still have 2.5 years to get it finished. Invest it in completing the car rather than buying a trailer ;-) From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jan 8 17:58:22 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:58:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <06FBB1C7D9394D49A3A8050CF1341711@midget> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <263485E7-1C2F-4F43-AD60-9DDF2DA39994@verizon.net> <06FBB1C7D9394D49A3A8050CF1341711@midget> Message-ID: <4966A12E.4060400@frontiernet.net> If you all decide on somewhere back east, I will be driving my Spridget. Kate David Lieb wrote: >> It sounds great. Crap, now I gotta buy a trailer. > > Phil, > You still have 2.5 years to get it finished. Invest it in completing > the car rather than buying a trailer ;-) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jan 8 18:01:29 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:01:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re[2]: Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <932776631.20090108170010@pacifier.com> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <263485E7-1C2F-4F43-AD60-9DDF2DA39994@verizon.net> <932776631.20090108170010@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1702831821.20090108170129@pacifier.com> == Hello Phil, what David said... what for a trailer? DRIVE it there..... Hey, there's nothin' quite like drivin' a Spidget across the Salt Flats on I-80.. Just ask Glen B... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "I've run out of wool," said Tom, knitting his brow. ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From billmasq at hotmail.com Thu Jan 8 19:02:12 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 18:02:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re[2]: Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <1702831821.20090108170129@pacifier.com> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <263485E7-1C2F-4F43-AD60-9DDF2DA39994@verizon.net> <932776631.20090108170010@pacifier.com> <1702831821.20090108170129@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Of course you can tow your trailer with your Spridget! Some of us do. Bill M > Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:01:29 -0800 > From: pythias at pacifier.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re[2]: Spridget 50th > > == > Hello Phil, > > what David said... what for a trailer? > > DRIVE it there..... Hey, there's nothin' quite like drivin' a > Spidget across the Salt Flats on I-80.. Just ask Glen B... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > * "I've run out of wool," said Tom, knitting his brow. > > ===8<===========End of original message text=========== > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 8 19:35:07 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:35:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <263485E7-1C2F-4F43-AD60-9DDF2DA39994@verizon.net> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <263485E7-1C2F-4F43-AD60-9DDF2DA39994@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4966B7DB.3020106@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > It sounds great. Crap, now I gotta buy a trailer. Phil, We'll drive Sprites out together, we can keep each other patched up for the long, hot drive ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From nases at verizon.net Thu Jan 8 19:51:16 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:51:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <4966B7DB.3020106@comcast.net> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <263485E7-1C2F-4F43-AD60-9DDF2DA39994@verizon.net> <4966B7DB.3020106@comcast.net> Message-ID: <71935FB4-0429-47F0-9AC9-2EFE0B7864E5@verizon.net> Ok. But I need to find a rear half of a Sprite and a couple OSHIT weekends to build a trailer for the spares. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jan 8, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Phil Nase wrote: >> It sounds great. Crap, now I gotta buy a trailer. > Phil, We'll drive Sprites out together, we can keep each other > patched up for the long, hot drive ;) > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 20:31:48 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 22:31:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 3 fairly cheap Bugeye's make offers? Message-ID: <205cef430901081931g7e8450f1i1e12bec8df21e546@mail.gmail.com> List, Here are some recent Bugeye's for sale for those of you in these areas. The first one just listed on craigslist is for $600. motor turns over looks rough in Missouri for those of you in that area but no title. http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/984548018.html The next one just listed on craigslist is in San Fransisco for $2,200. has CA title, lots of parts but doesn't sound like it has a running motor, frozen 1275, and free turning 1098. Mabe one of you can make an offer? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/985265615.html The last one is in upstate NY he want's $600. parts in boxes and very very rough but comes with a 67 Sprite less that motor & trans. the plus side is this Bugeye has a clean NY title 2 948 motors one of which was started on a rebuild and 1 maybe 2 smooth case transmissions. I have the guys name, email address and pics. let me know if you want them. I do know the spring hanger boxes are very bad but has a fair bonnet. Maybe you can make him an offer if you're local? Happy hunting, Linda From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jan 8 20:46:20 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:46:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 3 fairly cheap Bugeye's make offers? In-Reply-To: <205cef430901081931g7e8450f1i1e12bec8df21e546@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430901081931g7e8450f1i1e12bec8df21e546@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00b601c9720c$d6084510$8218cf30$@net> Judging from the Bugeye in Missouri it would cost tons to bring the body back to life:) Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:32 PM To: Spridget Chat Group Subject: [Spridgets] 3 fairly cheap Bugeye's make offers? List, Here are some recent Bugeye's for sale for those of you in these areas. The first one just listed on craigslist is for $600. motor turns over looks rough in Missouri for those of you in that area but no title. http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/984548018.html The next one just listed on craigslist is in San Fransisco for $2,200. has CA title, lots of parts but doesn't sound like it has a running motor, frozen 1275, and free turning 1098. Mabe one of you can make an offer? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/985265615.html The last one is in upstate NY he want's $600. parts in boxes and very very rough but comes with a 67 Sprite less that motor & trans. the plus side is this Bugeye has a clean NY title 2 948 motors one of which was started on a rebuild and 1 maybe 2 smooth case transmissions. I have the guys name, email address and pics. let me know if you want them. I do know the spring hanger boxes are very bad but has a fair bonnet. Maybe you can make him an offer if you're local? Happy hunting, Linda You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 8 21:21:38 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 22:21:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <29C87B58A776424F8B0C5AD6C41E73E9@midget> >I have spoken with the marketing director at one of our hotel casinos and >received the following information that might be of interest to those >undecided on a location. Personally, I am all in favor of Elko. Spridget 50, as a one-time deal to celebrate the 50th birthday of the Sprite, required a central location. For the second time around, I think it is only right to move to another section of the country. Surely we can do it again in the eastern end of things in a few more years. All it takes is motivated volunteers willing to put in ridiculous amounts of work so that people can gripe and complain at them. Right, Jim? That said, I am not the planning arm of anything and my contribution will probably be limited to helping with the autocross again, so my opinion ain't worth much either. David Lieb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 8 22:57:06 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 23:57:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <29C87B58A776424F8B0C5AD6C41E73E9@midget> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <29C87B58A776424F8B0C5AD6C41E73E9@midget> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901082157j2901cb7fs12b27c2499f967d5@mail.gmail.com> Do I detect a general approval of the Elko/Spring Creek area? It is time to try to settle on a venue and date..... I will suggest we look at either May or early June to avoid the heat if we go with Elko. What do you you think, Kate? Early summer in the Humbolts and the Rubys? Last time I was through that area was many years ago in late August and it was hot. Should Phil put an air conditioner in his Sprite? ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 10:21 PM, David Lieb wrote: > I have spoken with the marketing director at one of our hotel casinos and >> received the following information that might be of interest to those >> undecided on a location. >> > > Personally, I am all in favor of Elko. Spridget 50, as a one-time deal to > celebrate the 50th birthday of the Sprite, required a central location. For > the second time around, I think it is only right to move to another section > of the country. Surely we can do it again in the eastern end of things in a > few more years. All it takes is motivated volunteers willing to put in > ridiculous amounts of work so that people can gripe and complain at them. > Right, Jim? > > That said, I am not the planning arm of anything and my contribution will > probably be limited to helping with the autocross again, so my opinion ain't > worth much either. > David Lieb _______________________________________________ From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jan 9 03:02:09 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:02:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901082157j2901cb7fs12b27c2499f967d5@mail.gmail.com> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <29C87B58A776424F8B0C5AD6C41E73E9@midget> <43840a7e0901082157j2901cb7fs12b27c2499f967d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <496720A1.7010002@frontiernet.net> May & June are just about perfect here as far as the weather is concerned. Warm days, but not too hot, and cool nights, but not too cold. The "big" MG people are having their gathering in Tahoe June 12 - 18, so if we were to go just prior to them, those who so desire could attend both functions on one trip, making it very cost effective. The road up Lamoille Canyon should be open and all the trees budding out. Those who want to see snow would not need to walk far to find it. The road up the canyon is a beautiful twisty one, with all sorts of wildlife usually visible. Binoculars are recommended to see the cougar den and its occupant, as well as the occasional mountain goat. I would suggest that those unfamiliar with the area peruse the Elko web site and get an idea of some of the things available here for recreational activities. Those who like to fish might find the 5# trout and trophy bass in South Fork reservoir of interest. Kate Jim Johnson wrote: > Do I detect a general approval of the Elko/Spring Creek area? It is time to > try to settle on a venue and date..... I will suggest we look at either > May or early June to avoid the heat if we go with Elko. What do you you > think, Kate? Early summer in the Humbolts and the Rubys? Last time I was > through that area was many years ago in late August and it was hot. Should > Phil put an air conditioner in his Sprite? ;-) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 06:18:22 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 08:18:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <496720A1.7010002@frontiernet.net> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <29C87B58A776424F8B0C5AD6C41E73E9@midget> <43840a7e0901082157j2901cb7fs12b27c2499f967d5@mail.gmail.com> <496720A1.7010002@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <8c1781040901090518w5b670e73g37acb0005894e7f4@mail.gmail.com> Not suggesting that anyone "plan" around me, but early June is better for me because I still have children in school. Other people might be in a similar situation. It would be a solid two day trip for me. I'll have to get my Midget back on the road by then because the Uglybug just does not have enough creature comforts. ;) Trevor On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > May & June are just about perfect here as far as the weather is concerned. > Warm days, but not too hot, and cool nights, but not too cold. The "big" > MG people are having their gathering in Tahoe June 12 - 18, so if we were to > go just prior to them, those who so desire could attend both functions on > one trip, making it very cost effective. > > The road up Lamoille Canyon should be open and all the trees budding out. > Those who want to see snow would not need to walk far to find it. The road > up the canyon is a beautiful twisty one, with all sorts of wildlife usually > visible. Binoculars are recommended to see the cougar den and its occupant, > as well as the occasional mountain goat. > > I would suggest that those unfamiliar with the area peruse the Elko web site > and get an idea of some of the things available here for recreational > activities. Those who like to fish might find the 5# trout and trophy bass > in South Fork reservoir of interest. > > Kate > > Jim Johnson wrote: >> >> Do I detect a general approval of the Elko/Spring Creek area? It is time >> to >> try to settle on a venue and date..... I will suggest we look at either >> May or early June to avoid the heat if we go with Elko. What do you you >> think, Kate? Early summer in the Humbolts and the Rubys? Last time I was >> through that area was many years ago in late August and it was hot. Should >> Phil put an air conditioner in his Sprite? ;-) >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: >> 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as trevor.jessie at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jan 9 06:40:51 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 05:40:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <8c1781040901090518w5b670e73g37acb0005894e7f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <29C87B58A776424F8B0C5AD6C41E73E9@midget> <43840a7e0901082157j2901cb7fs12b27c2499f967d5@mail.gmail.com> <496720A1.7010002@frontiernet.net> <8c1781040901090518w5b670e73g37acb0005894e7f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1072313763.20090109054051@pacifier.com> Hello Trevor, I'm liking it BECAUSE its a two day trip to get there for me! (instead of 4 or 5) -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Close your eyes and press escape three times. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 06:48:06 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 05:48:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for Clunker email address Message-ID: <805597.19900.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> OK - I admit I've skimmed over much of what's been here for the past couple of weeks, but I was on vacation and that's the story I'm sticking to. I saw lots of emails on this subject, but actually didn't read that many of them. The link below takes you to a spot where you can generate an email to all your representatives on the subject. All you do is click on "take action", fill in your name and address, hit send and know that you've put your two-cents worth in on the subject. I did it a few minutes ago and already received a return email from Senator Hillary C. Now my day is complete... (please read just a hint of sarcasm into that statement) The site knows who to send it to according to the address you enter. Give it a shot - it only takes a minute to do. Here's the link: http://capwiz.com/aftermarket/home/ - David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Jan 9 08:26:36 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:26:36 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th Message-ID: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> thats the problem with driving that far, at least for me on the east coast. I have 2 little kids that can't really do a 4-5 day each way road trip. ryan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Trevor Jessie" > Not suggesting that anyone "plan" around me, but early June is better > for me because I still have children in school. Other people might be > in a similar situation. It would be a solid two day trip for me. > I'll have to get my Midget back on the road by then because the > Uglybug just does not have enough creature comforts. ;) > > Trevor > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > > May & June are just about perfect here as far as the weather is concerned. > > Warm days, but not too hot, and cool nights, but not too cold. The "big" > > MG people are having their gathering in Tahoe June 12 - 18, so if we were to > > go just prior to them, those who so desire could attend both functions on > > one trip, making it very cost effective. > > > > The road up Lamoille Canyon should be open and all the trees budding out. > > Those who want to see snow would not need to walk far to find it. The road > > up the canyon is a beautiful twisty one, with all sorts of wildlife usually > > visible. Binoculars are recommended to see the cougar den and its occupant, > > as well as the occasional mountain goat. > > > > I would suggest that those unfamiliar with the area peruse the Elko web site > > and get an idea of some of the things available here for recreational > > activities. Those who like to fish might find the 5# trout and trophy bass > > in South Fork reservoir of interest. > > > > Kate > > > > Jim Johnson wrote: > >> > >> Do I detect a general approval of the Elko/Spring Creek area? It is time > >> to > >> try to settle on a venue and date..... I will suggest we look at either > >> May or early June to avoid the heat if we go with Elko. What do you you > >> think, Kate? Early summer in the Humbolts and the Rubys? Last time I was > >> through that area was many years ago in late August and it was hot. Should > >> Phil put an air conditioner in his Sprite? ;-) > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: > >> 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as trevor.jessie at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 9 09:11:08 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:11:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <23C3D89CF3E34754BD2F132BBAD4B839@NilesAD.von.gov> > thats the problem with driving that far, at least for me on the east > coast. I have 2 little kids that can't really do a 4-5 day each way road > trip. But it is so educational! Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Petrified Forest, Las Vegas... From tinydog at snet.net Fri Jan 9 09:37:53 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:37:53 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Message-ID: <010920091637.19587.49677D61000B7F8800004C8322230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: This brings-up an interesting side subject: Demographics. It appears that some/many Spridget owners may differ from their Big Healey counterparts greatly by age. While most Big Healey owners are grandparents, Spridget owners are still raising puppies. -------------- Original message from ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net: -------------- thats the problem with driving that far, at least for me on the east coast. I > have 2 little kids that can't really do a 4-5 day each way road trip. > ryan > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Trevor Jessie" > > > Not suggesting that anyone "plan" around me, but early June is better > > for me because I still have children in school. From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jan 9 09:42:39 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:42:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <010920091637.19587.49677D61000B7F8800004C8322230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>, <010920091637.19587.49677D61000B7F8800004C8322230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net> This Spridget owner is a Great-granfather many time over... On a good day, I can even walk to the Sprite ;-)) On 9 Jan 2009 at 16:37, tinydog at snet.net wrote: >> While most Big Healey owners are grandparents, Spridget owners are >> still raising puppies. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jan 9 11:11:18 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:11:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>, <010920091637.19587.49677D61000B7F8800004C8322230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> This lil' ol' lady has grandchildren in college, and I'm willing to drive my Midget to the east coast if that's what you all decide. My navigator and assistant mechanic has four legs. These cars were meant to be driven. A long distance convoy can be great fun, and a good source of both moral and mechanical assistance. Most folks on this list can diagnose and fix any problems with little more than duct tape and a hammer. For those of you who have never driven out west, there is a ton of mountain man history in Wyoming, including Fort Jim Bridger and many other sites that are very close to the Interstate. Little America is the only truck stop in the world with its own Zip Code. I don't recommend it for food or lodging, as I feel it is over priced, but it is definitely worth a stop to see the gift shop. Wendover, UT has a museum dedicated to the bombers that dropped the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Just west of Wendover you will see Pilot Peak, where fires were lit to guide wagon trains across the salt flats. For anyone willing to do a bit of climbing, you can see where the wagons were hoisted up the mountains. Kate Dave G. wrote: > This Spridget owner is a Great-granfather many time over... > On a good day, I can even walk to the Sprite ;-)) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 11:29:44 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:29:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <010920091637.19587.49677D61000B7F8800004C8322230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901091029y789a353av27c2c34e99a4edd6@mail.gmail.com> If you will recall, we went through all this agonizing about "how long the drive was" and "who couldn't get free" several years ago as we planned the Lake of the Ozarks Spridget Event. It proved pointless. Not everyone can get free to go and not everyone will venture driving long distances. Still... Many can and will attend. It is all up to the individual. You have 2.5 years to plan. Save your pennies, mark your calendar, fix up the Spridget. You CAN do it if you really want to. Surely a wonderful group like this that can orchestrate moving the Holy Sprite all the way across country - and then go to New Jersey from where ever to build it up - TWICE - ....Surely such a group can piece together some convoy routes whereby everyone who wants to go will feel safe and well supported. Surely this can be done over the next 2.5 years! Cheers! Jim On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > This lil' ol' lady has grandchildren in college, and I'm willing to drive > my Midget to the east coast if that's what you all decide. My navigator and > assistant mechanic has four legs. These cars were meant to be driven. A > long distance convoy can be great fun, and a good source of both moral and > mechanical assistance. Most folks on this list can diagnose and fix any > problems with little more than duct tape and a hammer. > > For those of you who have never driven out west, there is a ton of mountain > man history in Wyoming, including Fort Jim Bridger and many other sites that > are very close to the Interstate. Little America is the only truck stop in > the world with its own Zip Code. I don't recommend it for food or lodging, > as I feel it is over priced, but it is definitely worth a stop to see the > gift shop. Wendover, UT has a museum dedicated to the bombers that dropped > the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Just west of Wendover you will see > Pilot Peak, where fires were lit to guide wagon trains across the salt > flats. For anyone willing to do a bit of climbing, you can see where the > wagons were hoisted up the mountains. > > Kate > > Dave G. wrote: > >> This Spridget owner is a Great-granfather many time over... >> On a good day, I can even walk to the Sprite ;-)) >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jan 9 11:46:43 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:46:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>, <49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <49672B13.804.A8FE4E@kk7ss.verizon.net> Kate, You forgot to mention "Golden Spike" and the Fort that the Union built to keep watch on the Mormons.. between SLC and Tooele... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 11:53:43 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:53:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <49672B13.804.A8FE4E@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> <49672B13.804.A8FE4E@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: Watching the Mormons?? What were they watching, how they managed to handle the multiple wife thing?? Of course, back then, they didn't have online porn, so they had to improvise..... LOL On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Dave G. wrote: > Kate, > > You forgot to mention "Golden Spike" and the Fort that the Union > built to keep watch on the Mormons.. between SLC and Tooele... > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mikey at b2systems.com Fri Jan 9 12:00:55 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:00:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> , <010920091637.19587.49677D61000B7F8800004C8322230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1231527655.24726.4.camel@WebBrowser> On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 10:11 -0800, Kathryn Bales wrote: > Most folks on this list > can diagnose and fix any problems with little more than duct tape and a > hammer. You forgot Chewing Gum :) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 9 12:07:43 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:07:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Watching the Mormons. I thought that it was a 'prank' activity. You know ... wait until they go to sleep and then go put a watch on them ... just to mess with their minds. ;) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Brad Fornal" Watching the Mormons?? What were they watching, how they managed to handle the multiple wife thing?? Of course, back then, they didn't have online porn, so they had to improvise..... LOL On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Dave G. wrote: > Kate, > > You forgot to mention "Golden Spike" and the Fort that the Union > built to keep watch on the Mormons.. between SLC and Tooele... > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 12:17:54 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 11:17:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Elko, Tahoe Message-ID: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> The Tahoe area is so incredibly beautiful. The ride around Lake Tahoe is like entering a whole new world. Each summer I have taken a Harley ride around the Western segment of the lake, spend the night in a camp site and then take 395 along Mono Lake into the park - then up to Glacier Point. I ride with 4 or 5 other friends. I have often thought how perfect the area would be to travel it in my 59 BE (which I would rather be driving than sitting on a bike). We also take a swim in the lake to cool down (those helmets keep the heat in during the summer months). What a blast to cruise that place with your hair blowing in the wind! There are a lot of great little places to eat along side of the lake and little shops, antiques and things. Just a thought. . . . Kirk From heard at datatrontech.net Fri Jan 9 12:36:52 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:36:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net><49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net><49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net><49672B13.804.A8FE4E@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <01c201c97291$9fe83730$1801010a@xp> Now that's funnier 'an hell! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:54 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th Watching the Mormons?? What were they watching, how they managed to handle the multiple wife thing?? Of course, back then, they didn't have online porn, so they had to improvise..... LOL On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Dave G. wrote: > Kate, > > You forgot to mention "Golden Spike" and the Fort that the Union built > to keep watch on the Mormons.. between SLC and Tooele... > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive > !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 13:07:30 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:07:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <49672B13.804.A8FE4E@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> <49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> <49672B13.804.A8FE4E@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901091207mbe933c0rcfbe70fa978aa17@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Dave G. wrote: > keep watch on the Mormons.. Isn't technology great!! Today it is so easy to watch all the "Morons" all in one place!! Just tune to CSPAN....... Cheers!! Jim From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jan 9 14:22:05 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 13:22:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <49672B13.804.A8FE4E@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <010920091526.4263.49676CAC00040B02000010A72215568884000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net>, <49670DFF.17430.3769CA@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <49679346.2080509@frontiernet.net> <49672B13.804.A8FE4E@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4967BFFD.8050209@frontiernet.net> I figured that if you guys decided to brave the wild west, I'd put together a whole list of interesting spots and include it in the information packet. Those were the only ones I could think of before coffee. I am not civilized, not to mention functional, before my coffee. Kate Dave G. wrote: > Kate, > > You forgot to mention "Golden Spike" and the Fort that the Union > built to keep watch on the Mormons.. between SLC and Tooele... > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM From thcollin at mtu.edu Fri Jan 9 14:42:03 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:42:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elko, Tahoe In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.co m> References: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <799knl$5bp6m3@email.mtu.edu> >What a blast to cruise that place with your hair blowing in the wind! I gather that not many on this list think much about hair blowing in the wind - unless it belongs to someone else! Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 9 14:54:51 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:54:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Elko, Tahoe References: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> <799knl$5bp6m3@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <9C19D141BD0342AB87A63E8B5EC69204@NilesAD.von.gov> > I gather that not many on this list think much about hair blowing in the > wind - unless it belongs to someone else! Tim, Did you make it to LotO for the 50th? Not many chrome domes there. Only one I can recall belonged to a guy who shaves his head. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri Jan 9 16:35:16 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:35:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <1072313763.20090109054051@pacifier.com> References: <49667072.7070405@frontiernet.net> <29C87B58A776424F8B0C5AD6C41E73E9@midget> <43840a7e0901082157j2901cb7fs12b27c2499f967d5@mail.gmail.com> <496720A1.7010002@frontiernet.net> <8c1781040901090518w5b670e73g37acb0005894e7f4@mail.gmail.com> <1072313763.20090109054051@pacifier.com> Message-ID: That makes at least 2 of us, long distance trophy is an award that I only want to win ONCE!! Elko in June sounds great to me (but Wisconsin didn't sound too bad either!). Bill M > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 05:40:51 -0800 > From: pythias at pacifier.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th > > Hello Trevor, > > I'm liking it BECAUSE its a two day trip to get there for me! > (instead of 4 or 5) > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Close your eyes and press escape three times. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 9 17:02:03 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:02:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 Message-ID: <4967E57B.7050501@comcast.net> I am rebuilding a 1275 for my daughter's (soon to be) Bugeye. I have new pistons in honed cylinders, and new rod and main bearings on a polished crank shaft. A machine shop did the honing and polishing. I slipped the pistons down to the crank by hand so they are not tight. I was turning the crank by hand with only main bearings and it was a little tight when the rod bearings went in. Then I torqued all the bearings and installed the flywheel. A large wrench on the front nut along with a prybar on the flywheel and it does not move. Std bearings on stock rods and a std polished crank. What gives? (I wish it gave) It turned over OK until I torqued the bearings. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jan 9 17:03:42 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:03:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 In-Reply-To: <4967E57B.7050501@comcast.net> References: <4967E57B.7050501@comcast.net> Message-ID: Wrong or mis-marked bearings? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I am rebuilding a 1275 for my daughter's (soon to be) Bugeye. > I have new pistons in honed cylinders, and new rod and main bearings on a > polished crank shaft. > A machine shop did the honing and polishing. > I slipped the pistons down to the crank by hand so they are not tight. > I was turning the crank by hand with only main bearings and it was a little > tight when the rod bearings went in. > Then I torqued all the bearings and installed the flywheel. > A large wrench on the front nut along with a prybar on the flywheel and it > does not move. > Std bearings on stock rods and a std polished crank. > What gives? (I wish it gave) > It turned over OK until I torqued the bearings. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cclabaw at juno.com Fri Jan 9 17:20:02 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:20:02 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 Message-ID: <20090109.162002.5619.1@webmail20.dca.untd.com> Rod and main caps in the right pews? Clay L. '67 Sprite -- Frank Clarici wrote: I am rebuilding a 1275 for my daughter's (soon to be) Bugeye. I have new pistons in honed cylinders, and new rod and main bearings on a polished crank shaft. A machine shop did the honing and polishing. I slipped the pistons down to the crank by hand so they are not tight. I was turning the crank by hand with only main bearings and it was a little tight when the rod bearings went in. Then I torqued all the bearings and installed the flywheel. A large wrench on the front nut along with a prybar on the flywheel and it does not move. Std bearings on stock rods and a std polished crank. What gives? (I wish it gave) It turned over OK until I torqued the bearings. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Save on Emergency Alert Systems. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1uS7F2TjBuCSHP0it9klPu6nzCy MjYM6LoaosHJGglme6CI/ From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Fri Jan 9 17:22:06 2009 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 18:22:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 In-Reply-To: <4967E57B.7050501@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20090110002215.3673F627942@mpls-qmqp-05.inet.qwest.net> Frank Were the main's torqued before the rods were installed? Did the crank turn easy with the main's truqued? Herb -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 6:02 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 I am rebuilding a 1275 for my daughter's (soon to be) Bugeye. I have new pistons in honed cylinders, and new rod and main bearings on a polished crank shaft. A machine shop did the honing and polishing. I slipped the pistons down to the crank by hand so they are not tight. I was turning the crank by hand with only main bearings and it was a little tight when the rod bearings went in. Then I torqued all the bearings and installed the flywheel. A large wrench on the front nut along with a prybar on the flywheel and it does not move. Std bearings on stock rods and a std polished crank. What gives? (I wish it gave) It turned over OK until I torqued the bearings. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as hgmiller3 at qwest.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.3/1878 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri Jan 9 17:51:00 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:51:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Elko, Tahoe In-Reply-To: <9C19D141BD0342AB87A63E8B5EC69204@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> <799knl$5bp6m3@email.mtu.edu> <9C19D141BD0342AB87A63E8B5EC69204@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: Well Dave- maybe there weren't too many chrome domes but there WERE a few of us "folliclly challenged" types! Bill M > From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:54:51 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Elko, Tahoe > > > I gather that not many on this list think much about hair blowing in the > > wind - unless it belongs to someone else! > > Tim, > Did you make it to LotO for the 50th? Not many chrome domes there. Only one > I can recall belonged to a guy who shaves his head. > David Lieb > 1972 1960 1974 1973 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_howit works_012009 From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jan 9 18:19:32 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:19:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 In-Reply-To: <4967E57B.7050501@comcast.net> Message-ID: <44634.44270.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oval rod journals or bearing size. One strip of plastigauge is in the mail to you tomorrow. --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Frank Clarici wrote: > From: Frank Clarici > Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:02 PM > I am rebuilding a 1275 for my daughter's (soon to be) > Bugeye. > I have new pistons in honed cylinders, and new rod and main > bearings on a polished crank shaft. > A machine shop did the honing and polishing. > I slipped the pistons down to the crank by hand so they are > not tight. > I was turning the crank by hand with only main bearings and > it was a little tight when the rod bearings went in. > Then I torqued all the bearings and installed the flywheel. > A large wrench on the front nut along with a prybar on the > flywheel and it does not move. > Std bearings on stock rods and a std polished crank. > What gives? (I wish it gave) > It turned over OK until I torqued the bearings. From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Jan 9 18:26:50 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:26:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Elko, Tahoe In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> <799knl$5bp6m3@email.mtu.edu> <9C19D141BD0342AB87A63E8B5EC69204@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: > Well Dave- maybe there weren't too many chrome domes but there WERE a few > of > us "folliclly challenged" types! It is well documented that bald men have higher levels of testosterone. One would assume that men with low testerone levels would not want to make a point of their defficiency. It should be embarrassing enough just having that defficiency obvious for all the world to see. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, Ny From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Jan 9 18:38:14 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:38:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th Message-ID: <200901100138.n0A1cEjN021513@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> Bonneville Salt Flats??? Glen From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Jan 9 18:44:47 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:44:47 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <200901100138.n0A1cEjN021513@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> References: <200901100138.n0A1cEjN021513@cucujus.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <4967FD8F.5050103@frontiernet.net> Close enough for a day trip! Kate Glen Byrns wrote: > Bonneville Salt Flats??? > > Glen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 9 19:02:15 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:02:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Elko, Tahoe In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> <799knl$5bp6m3@email.mtu.edu> <9C19D141BD0342AB87A63E8B5EC69204@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901091802t76869695q4996079b95a9893a@mail.gmail.com> Damn straight, Mike!! But, if they want to waste their testosterone on growing hair I guess they can.... Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Well Dave- maybe there weren't too many chrome domes but there WERE a few >> of >> us "folliclly challenged" types! >> > > It is well documented that bald men have higher levels of testosterone. > One would assume that men with low testerone levels would not want to make > a point of their defficiency. It should be embarrassing enough just having > that defficiency obvious for all the world to see. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, Ny From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Jan 9 20:14:07 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:14:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC ... Gray hair- In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901091802t76869695q4996079b95a9893a@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> <799knl$5bp6m3@email.mtu.edu> <9C19D141BD0342AB87A63E8B5EC69204@NilesAD.von.gov> <43840a7e0901091802t76869695q4996079b95a9893a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1668159021.20090109191407@pacifier.com> Hello Jim, After years of research THEY have determined where gray hair comes from... as a person gets older and older the roots grow deeper and deeper until they tap into ones grey matter.... if they don't find anything, they just fall out. ... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" I'm losing my thought of train.... From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 9 20:14:01 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:14:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 In-Reply-To: <44634.44270.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4967E57B.7050501@comcast.net> <44634.44270.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I agree with Ron, Frank. Did you happen to check the clearance with the Plastigauge? Do you happen to have another set of Rod bearing laying around to check? I'll help ya take a look tomorrow when I drop the car off. Should be there 930ish Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto my cell if you need it is5166433629 > Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:19:32 -0800 > From: soavero at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net; spritenut at comcast.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 > > Oval rod journals or bearing size. One strip of plastigauge is in the mail to you tomorrow. > > --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > From: Frank Clarici > > Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 > > To: "Spridgets" > > Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 6:02 PM > > I am rebuilding a 1275 for my daughter's (soon to be) > > Bugeye. > > I have new pistons in honed cylinders, and new rod and main > > bearings on a polished crank shaft. > > A machine shop did the honing and polishing. > > I slipped the pistons down to the crank by hand so they are > > not tight. > > I was turning the crank by hand with only main bearings and > > it was a little tight when the rod bearings went in. > > Then I torqued all the bearings and installed the flywheel. > > A large wrench on the front nut along with a prybar on the > > flywheel and it does not move. > > Std bearings on stock rods and a std polished crank. > > What gives? (I wish it gave) > > It turned over OK until I torqued the bearings. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugeye15 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Jan 9 23:23:51 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 22:23:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 Message-ID: <200901100623.n0A6Np0f014498@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu> Afteermarket cheepo thrust washers with raised edge where stamped out???> Put the old ones in for a try and see if it turns. If so, you,ll have to clean up the edges of the new ones. Glen> From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 01:21:59 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:21:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 In-Reply-To: <200901100623.n0A6Np0f014498@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu> References: <200901100623.n0A6Np0f014498@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901100021w2dd2be45l38a7a1e24bf162a4@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Glen has a good point! I ran into this exact same problem with a motorcycle engine a few years back. The damned thrust washers were binding and had to have their edges filed to fit! Happy birthday ya crusty old f*rt!! Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:23 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > Afteermarket cheepo thrust washers with raised edge where stamped out???> > Put the old ones in for a try and see if it turns. If so, you,ll have to > clean up the edges of the new ones. > > Glen> From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Jan 10 02:51:25 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:51:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original jack tools question... Message-ID: <0EA76832558B427D936074C4F8E0B2F1@blackbox2> Up on ebay, item number 300284883005 is a fairly unmolested bugeye "barn find". Actually not a bad starting point for a restoration I might add.. If you look at the last picture it shows the original jack, ratchet, and lug wrench. Are those the orginal colors of those tools? Red jack and lug wrench and white for the ratchet? From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 06:36:40 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:36:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901100021w2dd2be45l38a7a1e24bf162a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <151230.42295.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thrust washer problem happens at leat 50% of the time even with Vandervells (NLA) or Clevites (still available), but it is apparent without tightening rod caps. Frank's issue happened after snugging up the rods. FYI, when I tighten rod caps (and I do the rod bearings in White Trash at least once a year), I always mic the bearings (or in a pinch plastigauge) AND when tightening I put a feeler gauge between the edge of the rod cap and the edge of the crank ear/counterweight so that the cap doesn't cock at all during torquing. Probably overkill and superstition, but good practice. > Glen has a good point! I ran into this exact same problem > with a motorcycle > engine a few years back. The damned thrust washers were > binding and had to > have their edges filed to fit! > > Happy birthday ya crusty old f*rt!! From thcollin at mtu.edu Sat Jan 10 08:19:03 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:19:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Intake Manifolds Message-ID: <799knl$5bs2g3@email.mtu.edu> There are currently at least 2 intake manifolds for sale on eBay (items 310114374470 and 280300719227, hereafter referred to as #1 and #2). #1 is listed as part # 12G1450 while #2 is listed as 12G583. #2 is for an early Spridget and #1 is for a later Spridget. If you look at the pic of #2 you can clearly see that the intake runner on the bakelite block side is "radiused" or chamfered from 1.25" out to probably 1.5". #1 has it too, but the pic isn't as good. Why is that chamfer there? The bakelite blocks I have seen are a constant 1.25" in diameter. It seems to me that when assembled, there is a discontinuity at the point the bakelite meets the manifold - two different diameters. I have a 12G1451 with the same chamfer. A PO took a rat tail file to the bakelite spacers to try and "port match" the diameters. This makes no sense since that just puts a wide spot between the bakelite and the intake manifold. Please explain why the chamfer is on these manifolds. My 1098 manifold has no chamfer. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jan 10 09:06:06 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:06:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget 50th In-Reply-To: <23C3D89CF3E34754BD2F132BBAD4B839@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <20090110160623.A20BC187650@autox.team.net> If your going through Las Vegas to get to Elko your lost. However the ride up US 93 is one you will never forget, just don't do it at night, it is the land of voodoo, hoodoo, & all kind of strange things. Be sure to stop in Calente at the Hot Springs motel, favorite honeymoon place to take all you're 10 & 12 year old wives. Don't forget to go to Rachel on the E.T. highway aka US 375 through Alamo; just don't turn left on any dirt roads. Last but not least be sure to stop at Ely and visit the Nevada State Prison (MAX), no O.J. is in Lovelock. From Ely to Wells is a test for Bonneville Salt Flats as there are two turns in 180 miles and you can see 30 miles in front and back. Special note, the Dairy Queen in Elko on Friday night is not to be missed, however leave you car with out of state license plates at the hotel or you will be mobbed by under age teen girls looking for a ride out of town. You won't make it as their Dad will be waiting at the outskirts of town with a shotgun and short trip to the wedding chapel. Please come to Nevada just be sure to leave your money and go home. Crash > thats the problem with driving that far, at least for me on the east > coast. I have 2 little kids that can't really do a 4-5 day each way road > trip. But it is so educational! Yellowstone, Grand Canyon, Petrified Forest, Las Vegas... From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jan 10 09:12:51 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:12:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Elko, Tahoe In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090110161308.0B39F1878B7@autox.team.net> I do a 3 hour tour of Emerald Bay on my Flicka 20 that is not to be missed. Sure beats walking up and down the hill. Crash The Tahoe area is so incredibly beautiful. The ride around Lake Tahoe is like entering a whole new world. From billmasq at hotmail.com Sat Jan 10 09:42:49 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:42:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Intake Manifolds In-Reply-To: <799knl$5bs2g3@email.mtu.edu> References: <799knl$5bs2g3@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: Sounds to me like he was trying to make an "anti-reversion" manifold (normally used in 2-stroke intakes or 4 stroke exhausts to prevent backflow) but in a 4-stroke intake??? I don't know. Bill > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:19:03 -0500 > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > From: thcollin at mtu.edu > Subject: [Spridgets] Intake Manifolds > > There are currently at least 2 intake manifolds for sale on eBay > (items 310114374470 and 280300719227, hereafter referred to as #1 and > #2). #1 is listed as part # 12G1450 while #2 is listed as 12G583. #2 > is for an early Spridget and #1 is for a later Spridget. > > If you look at the pic of #2 you can clearly see that the intake > runner on the bakelite block side is "radiused" or chamfered from > 1.25" out to probably 1.5". #1 has it too, but the pic isn't as good. > Why is that chamfer there? The bakelite blocks I have seen are a > constant 1.25" in diameter. It seems to me that when assembled, there > is a discontinuity at the point the bakelite meets the manifold - two > different diameters. > > I have a 12G1451 with the same chamfer. A PO took a rat tail file to > the bakelite spacers to try and "port match" the diameters. This > makes no sense since that just puts a wide spot between the bakelite > and the intake manifold. > > Please explain why the chamfer is on these manifolds. My 1098 > manifold has no chamfer. > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jan 10 09:47:37 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:47:37 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Sridget Event In-Reply-To: <1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com> References: <603064.54329.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1425097935.20090110084737@pacifier.com> This is a forwarded message From: Bill L To: phil burke Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 8:46:44 AM Subject: 2011 Sridget Event ===8<==============Original message text=============== Hello phil, just to let ya know, its STILL about 800 miles, (a little under) for the "Washington Bills" to get to Elko... Two days drive... And i completely understand your concerns. And you are one of the people who really "made" the event for me at LotO and want to see you again. .. .. I SWORE that I would never again drive across the Rocky Mountains after that last trip. Not even in an air conditioned car, let alone a Sprite!!!... But then when they started talking about Elkhart Lake, and Road America... well time dulls all pain...BUT .. I don't want to even be a contender for long distance award, let alone a perrenial runner-up... which is what happens if the event is always held in the Mid-West.... And the same is true for you living in the opposite corner of the US.... it IS a big country.... One of the problems to consider with holding it in Colorado though is the altitude. It does means re-tuning the cars to run at nearly 10,000! Having gone over the Rockies I know what a hit the cars take at that altitude, because we did NOT retune as we went up, and down, and up and down again. .. If the event becomes "roving" it is obvious that not everyone will be able to get to every event. There are some who are die hards and have hair shirts and will do their best no matter the location, BUT we will pick up people who would not otherwise be able to make the long distance trips. We were put up by people along the way who wished they had the time/money to make the pilgrimage, and are already planning to get to this one simply because it IS doable for them. I know that I won't go as far as Pennsylvania for a gathering, just as some won't make a trip to Nevada, but a different cast of charachters is to be expected at each gathering anyway.... just some thoughts on a saturday morning....... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com "There's no need for silence," Tom allowed. ===8<===========End of original message text=========== -- Best regards, Bill mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jan 10 09:49:16 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:49:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Intake Manifolds In-Reply-To: References: <799knl$5bs2g3@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: "In a running engine, camshaft overlap causes hot exhaust gases to expand and rise into the intake manifold as the intake valve is opening and the exhaust valve is closing. The incoming fuel/air mixture is then contaminated. More importantly, the carburetor throats are effectively 'choked' by the reverse flow of hot exhaust gases, causing a restriction of the intake charge. This occurrence is commonly called "reversion". The use of Product Engineering's Anti-Reversion Shear Plate combats this problem by capturing and redirecting the errant exhaust gases, turning them back into the engine. This method uses the gases own velocity to boost the speed of the incoming fuel/air mixture and break up the molecules for better atomization. The redirected gases also shear and atomize the raw fuel that typically drips from the base of the carburetor's bores." >From http://www.racingcomponents-llc.net/shear_plates.htm From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jan 10 09:58:18 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:58:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Intake Manifolds In-Reply-To: References: <799knl$5bs2g3@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <1501805316.20090110085818@pacifier.com> Hello Bill, I am in the process of attempting to "Vizardize" and intake manifold myself. Doing the radiusing show in these pics is not mentioned in his book, but shaving the back side of the equalization tube where it meets the incoming and outflowing mixture is.... also taking the ridge out of the bottoms of the intake tubes... .. still working on it, not yet ready for an install...... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Gravity doesn't exist. The Earth sucks. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jan 10 10:06:22 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:06:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Sridget Event References: <603064.54329.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com><1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com> <1425097935.20090110084737@pacifier.com> Message-ID: > .... I don't want to even be a contender for long > distance award, let alone a perrenial runner-up... Bill, No one say that you have to drive directly there. You could drive up to join Bill M and make sure you drove further than he did... You could "get lost" on the way and jack up your odometer. Be creative, no reason to always come up short ;-) David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jan 10 10:18:34 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:18:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event References: <603064.54329.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com><1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com><1425097935.20090110084737@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <5F5954FEB4E34C0ABA107A3EA6FAF034@midget> There's a lively discussion of the venue for SCUM50 at http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&mode=thread&access=&subject=125&source=T&thread=2009010922100932299 or http://tinyurl.com/SCUM50 for those who prefer tinydog urls Anyone care to weigh in? No need to be a member to post... David Lieb From hardy.john at cox.net Sat Jan 10 10:22:44 2009 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 9:22:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original jack tools question... In-Reply-To: <0EA76832558B427D936074C4F8E0B2F1@blackbox2> Message-ID: <20090110122244.BSJQ3.526898.imail@fed1rmwml25> Dean, I believe that the tools for 58-60 Sprites where all painted black. Later model Midget and Sprite MkII/III had both gray and a orange red color. Cheers, John ---- Dean Hedin wrote: > Up on ebay, item number 300284883005 is a fairly unmolested bugeye "barn find". > Actually not a bad starting point for a restoration I might add.. > > If you look at the last picture it shows the original jack, ratchet, and lug wrench. > Are those the orginal colors of those tools? > > Red jack and lug wrench and white for the ratchet? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hardy.john at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 10:25:35 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:25:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Sridget Event In-Reply-To: References: <603064.54329.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com> <1425097935.20090110084737@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901100925m1277e8c1w7050fa2f9869bd7b@mail.gmail.com> No dice, guys! Long distance will be determined via MapQuest to your front door, just as it was for LotO. Only way to increase the distance is to either move the event or move your home! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:06 AM, David Lieb wrote: > .... I don't want to even be a contender for long >> distance award, let alone a perrenial runner-up... >> > > Bill, > No one say that you have to drive directly there. You could drive up to > join Bill M and make sure you drove further than he did... > You could "get lost" on the way and jack up your odometer. Be creative, no > reason to always come up short ;-) > David Lieb _______________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jan 10 11:06:42 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:06:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Sridget Event References: <603064.54329.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com><1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com> <1425097935.20090110084737@pacifier.com> <1258618578.20090110094807@pacifier.com> Message-ID: > I'm sure by now you've seen Jim's reply.. Mapquest just to keep > people from doing what you said.. .. he didn't want someone from > Missouri driving down to texas and up to Pennsylvania and back to > Missouri just to get the award... .. RATS! and that's fair.. Obviously I wasn't aware of that, not having been a contender ;-) I guess Jim knows Barney Gaylord who drove his MGA from Chicago up the Alaska Highway by way of Texas ;-) Not sure I think that is the best way to handle it, but I am NOT volunteering ;-) However, I don't see a problem with someone taking the scenic route and logging those miles if they choose. Otherwise, most of us would have no opportunity to compete. We could do something like the Iron Butt motorcycle guys do wherein you present dated gas station receipts for stops along the way and compute the mileage based on those. So I could drive to Elko by way of the Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Yellowstone and New Jersey's Pine Barrens and be a contender. Perhaps there should be a separate category for Iron Butt Spridgeters? David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jan 10 11:25:51 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:25:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles Message-ID: <1BD024DBD67343BBBE6EEF152705FA29@midget> I was out running the snowblower this morning and stopped to talk to the guy halfway up the block from me. It turns out that he has a 1953 Triumph Tiger in his garage. Originally 500cc, but it lost a tooth on the generator gear and locked everything up, so he dropped in a 650cc engine instead. It isn't really for sale, but he hasn't done anything with it for 20 years and wouldn't mind finding it a happy home at some point. Why couldn't it be a Bugeye?!?!?!? David Lieb From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Jan 10 11:26:12 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:26:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Sridget Event In-Reply-To: References: <603064.54329.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com><1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com> <1425097935.20090110084737@pacifier.com> <1258618578.20090110094807@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4968E844.7040808@frontiernet.net> Why not? It's as good a category as any other. Kate > Perhaps there should be a separate category for Iron Butt Spridgeters? > David Lieb _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 11:29:40 2009 From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:29:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance In-Reply-To: <5F5954FEB4E34C0ABA107A3EA6FAF034@midget> Message-ID: <708237.45633.qm@web45703.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Guys, Well, I'll go to the event and settle all the distance controversy. I live in Homer Alaska. Thats 2300 miles just to get to Seattle. If you want to googlemap the distance my address is 64350 Bridger Rd., Homer Alaska 99603. I drove the car up here from San Diego three years ago so driving back down will not be a new event. If you have never driven the old ALCAN highway (now called the Alaska Highway) it's just miles and miles of miles and miles. Jim Lempe Homer AK From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Jan 10 11:31:27 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:31:27 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Intake Manifolds Message-ID: With respect to the A-Series motor, see Vizard's book on (APT "Rimflow") anti-reversionary valves and the purposeful "mis-match" of exhaust headers to exhaust ports to maximize anti-reversionary characteristics. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jan 10 11:32:19 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:32:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <1BD024DBD67343BBBE6EEF152705FA29@midget> References: <1BD024DBD67343BBBE6EEF152705FA29@midget> Message-ID: <90568A462361432597B18B59358EE169@spider> Let us know when he puts it on eBay. ...bill in oregon =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:26 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles I was out running the snowblower this morning and stopped to talk to the guy halfway up the block from me. It turns out that he has a 1953 Triumph Tiger in his garage. Originally 500cc, but it lost a tooth on the generator gear and locked everything up, so he dropped in a 650cc engine instead. It isn't really for sale, but he hasn't done anything with it for 20 years and wouldn't mind finding it a happy home at some point. Why couldn't it be a Bugeye?!?!?!? David Lieb _______________________________________________ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jan 10 11:42:30 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:42:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <90568A462361432597B18B59358EE169@spider> References: <1BD024DBD67343BBBE6EEF152705FA29@midget> <90568A462361432597B18B59358EE169@spider> Message-ID: <7FF3A3D42AE642539448D6B1227B3673@spider> This is a similar 1952 http://www.motosolvang.com/bike_pages/1952_Triumph_Tiger_100.htm ================================================================= Let us know when he puts it on eBay. ...bill in oregon =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:26 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles I was out running the snowblower this morning and stopped to talk to the guy halfway up the block from me. It turns out that he has a 1953 Triumph Tiger in his garage. Originally 500cc, but it lost a tooth on the generator gear and locked everything up, so he dropped in a 650cc engine instead. It isn't really for sale, but he hasn't done anything with it for 20 years and wouldn't mind finding it a happy home at some point. Why couldn't it be a Bugeye?!?!?!? David Lieb From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 11:53:55 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:53:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <7FF3A3D42AE642539448D6B1227B3673@spider> Message-ID: <834595.59007.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yeah, pretty much pins my meter. I was born too f'in late. --- On Sat, 1/10/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 12:42 PM > This is a similar 1952 > http://www.motosolvang.com/bike_pages/1952_Triumph_Tiger_100.htm > info/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 11:56:04 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:56:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Sridget Event In-Reply-To: <4968E844.7040808@frontiernet.net> References: <603064.54329.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com> <1425097935.20090110084737@pacifier.com> <1258618578.20090110094807@pacifier.com> <4968E844.7040808@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901101056j292dac23u8425ba98669d2d92@mail.gmail.com> I like the Iron Butt idea ;-) I've done it on motorcycle. Should be a piece of cake in a Spridget! Another idea might be to have something like last year's "Digital Scavenger Hunt" only on a national scale. We pick out, say, 50 places all across the US and publish them on the web site a year in advance so everyone can plan. The person who verifiably (is that a word?) visits the most of them with their Spridget enroute to the event wins a full month of Chiropractic visits or something. Use computed mileage as a tie breaker. Dr. David Lieb can be the Chiropracter ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > Why not? It's as good a category as any other. > > Kate > > Perhaps there should be a separate category for Iron Butt Spridgeters? >> David Lieb _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 12:05:36 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:05:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <834595.59007.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <7FF3A3D42AE642539448D6B1227B3673@spider> <834595.59007.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901101105v3a13c58areb13ac0859e097f9@mail.gmail.com> Man! You guys are gluttons for punishment!! What a bunch of masochists! I've had British bikes and re-built them. Take everything you dislike about LBCs (lousy electrics, oil leaks...etc) and increase it by about 2 orders of magnitude. If you want an old bike, get an old BMW. Restore it once and you are done. They are bullet proof. Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Yeah, pretty much pins my meter. I was born too f'in late. From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Jan 10 12:21:31 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:21:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901101105v3a13c58areb13ac0859e097f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <7FF3A3D42AE642539448D6B1227B3673@spider> <834595.59007.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0901101105v3a13c58areb13ac0859e097f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4968F53B.2030901@frontiernet.net> And where is the fun in that? If we wanted cars that always started and always ran, we wouldn't have Spridgets. Kate > > If you want an old bike, get an old BMW. Restore it once and you are done. > They are bullet proof. > > Cheers!! > Jim From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Jan 10 12:25:34 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:25:34 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance Message-ID: Can you see Russia from your house? Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 12:53:40 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:53:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901101105v3a13c58areb13ac0859e097f9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <543064.3957.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > If you want an old bike, get an old BMW. But then I'd have to look at it. Ron From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Jan 10 13:31:39 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:31:39 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original jack tools question... Message-ID: The jack on my 68 which was original as far as I know was red. In a message dated 10/01/2009 17:22:56 GMT Standard Time, hardy.john at cox.net writes: Dean, I believe that the tools for 58-60 Sprites where all painted black. Later model Midget and Sprite MkII/III had both gray and a orange red color. Cheers, John From rbastedo at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 13:36:03 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:36:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 2011 Spridget Event -Longest Message-ID: Hi Jim, so you're from Homer - "that little drinking town with a fishing problem". I believe I left a dollar on the wall of a certain establishment there... I've been there many times, fishing & just having fun. That was back in the 80's - I moved back down to the Seattle area in '86. I drove the ALCan several times in a 69 MGB GT and then in a 69 MGC GT. Once Seattle to Fairbanks to Anchorage all in one shot. Now that was a drive in the middle of June!!! Haven't done it in a Spridget yet, that would be a hoot. Is it paved yet? In the early 80's there was at least 1100 miles of gravel broken up by a few stretches of blacktop. Some of the best food at the little gas station / restaurants along the way. I remember one place that only charged about $3.00 for a great steak & eggs breakfast. I think I left a $10 tip it was so good! Those were the good days, back when I could sit & drive thousands of miles without any limitations. Rick Bastedo ************************************************ From: James Lempe Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance Hi Guys, Well, I'll go to the event and settle all the distance controversy. I live in Homer Alaska. Thats 2300 miles just to get to Seattle. If you want to googlemap the distance my address is 64350 Bridger Rd., Homer Alaska 99603. I drove the car up here from San Diego three years ago so driving back down will not be a new event. If you have never driven the old ALCAN highway (now called the Alaska Highway) it's just miles and miles of miles and miles. Jim Lempe Homer AK From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sat Jan 10 14:10:53 2009 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:10:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Sridget Event References: <603064.54329.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com> <1425097935.20090110084737@pacifier.com> <1258618578.20090110094807@pacifier.com> <4968E844.7040808@frontiernet.net> <43840a7e0901101056j292dac23u8425ba98669d2d92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9C266934320042D18399D2A8F2471853@DBKF4T81> Interesting thought ... I've got a BE that is currently in pieces but might be ... maybe ... put together in a year or three. It had a luggage rack on it when I got it so there might be a place to carry a portable table if/when I get it done. And, I am a chiropractor. > The person who verifiably (is that a word?) visits the most of them with > their Spridget enroute to the event wins a full month of Chiropractic > visits > or something. Use computed mileage as a tie breaker. > > Dr. David Lieb can be the Chiropracter ;-) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 14:21:31 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:21:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0901101321j1553d3e0qef52965cc1b45ef1@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:25 PM, wrote: > Can you see Russia from your house? > Careful there, Howard. He lives in Alaska. He'll come down here and boil your blubber... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 14:28:52 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:28:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <543064.3957.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0901101105v3a13c58areb13ac0859e097f9@mail.gmail.com> <543064.3957.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901101328p2bc14ebfsdb93b93e79d79d52@mail.gmail.com> Here. You can look at my 1964 but NO DROOLING! http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/bike/1964_R60.jpg Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > > If you want an old bike, get an old BMW. > > But then I'd have to look at it. From jlaird237 at cox.net Sat Jan 10 14:39:07 2009 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:39:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles References: <43840a7e0901101105v3a13c58areb13ac0859e097f9@mail.gmail.com><543064.3957.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0901101328p2bc14ebfsdb93b93e79d79d52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <955D3B0172AC4FFDBEC2BBE1600C1DD9@personal> Wow, just come from the dealer?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles > Here. You can look at my 1964 but NO DROOLING! > > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/bike/1964_R60.jpg > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > >> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Jim Johnson wrote: >> > If you want an old bike, get an old BMW. >> >> But then I'd have to look at it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 14:42:15 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:42:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901101328p2bc14ebfsdb93b93e79d79d52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <349042.80751.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Beautiful. Nothing pushes my visual aesthetic buttons like old British stuff, though. I suspect there are a few thousand like that on the list ;-) --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > From: Jim Johnson > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles > To: > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 3:28 PM > Here. You can look at my 1964 but NO DROOLING! > > http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/bike/1964_R60.jpg > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Ron Soave > wrote: > > > --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Jim Johnson > wrote: > > > If you want an old bike, get an old BMW. > > > > But then I'd have to look at it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 14:48:33 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:48:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 2011 Spridget Event -Longest In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0901101348n33a4b641hd25ba739e3ef7097@mail.gmail.com> I've done the ALCAN twice on motorcycle. The first time was in April of 1976 and it was ALL muddy gravel. At least the part of it that wasn't a foot deep in snow around Summit Pass ;-) It took a week from Dawson Creek to Tok. Just for old time's sake I went again in 2003 on motorcycle. It was a let down. There was only about 25 miles of gravel total. The rest was nicely paved. I did the 1200 miles in 3 days one way and at a nice leisurely pace. I also found that parts of the route have gotten all Yuppie Touristy though the lodge at Muncho Lake had great German beer and incredible German food! On that trip I also did the Cassiar-Stewart Highway, the Klondike Highway, and the Top of the World Highway. Those roads were like what I remembered of the ALCAN in 1976!! It's a great trip and I highly recommend it for either Spridget or motorcycle! I want to do it again before I'm too old. Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > Hi Jim, so you're from Homer - "that little drinking town with a fishing > problem". > I believe I left a dollar on the wall of a certain establishment there... > I've been there many times, fishing & just having fun. > That was back in the 80's - I moved back down to the Seattle area in '86. > > I drove the ALCan several times in a 69 MGB GT and then in a 69 MGC GT. > Once Seattle to Fairbanks to Anchorage all in one shot. Now that was a > drive > in the middle of June!!! > Haven't done it in a Spridget yet, that would be a hoot. > Is it paved yet? > In the early 80's there was at least 1100 miles of gravel broken up by a > few > stretches of blacktop. > > Some of the best food at the little gas station / restaurants along the > way. > I remember one place that only charged about $3.00 for a great steak & eggs > breakfast. > I think I left a $10 tip it was so good! > Those were the good days, back when I could sit & drive thousands of miles > without any limitations. > > Rick Bastedo > > ************************************************ > From: James Lempe > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance > > Hi Guys, > > Well, I'll go to the event and settle all the distance controversy. I > live > in Homer Alaska. Thats 2300 miles just to get to Seattle. If you want to > googlemap the distance my address is 64350 Bridger Rd., Homer Alaska 99603. > > I drove the car up here from San Diego three years ago so driving back down > will not be a new event. If you have never driven the old ALCAN highway > (now > called the Alaska Highway) it's just miles and miles of miles and miles. > > Jim Lempe > Homer AK > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 14:52:54 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:52:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <349042.80751.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0901101328p2bc14ebfsdb93b93e79d79d52@mail.gmail.com> <349042.80751.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901101352l14a1536fyeab3a9298daa7ce6@mail.gmail.com> 95% of all British motorcycles are still on the road. The other 5% made it home. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Beautiful. Nothing pushes my visual aesthetic buttons like old British > stuff, though. I suspect there are a few thousand like that on the list ;-) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 14:56:44 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:56:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <349042.80751.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0901101328p2bc14ebfsdb93b93e79d79d52@mail.gmail.com> <349042.80751.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901101356y26b044d2g6dd3f8345e25d369@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Nothing pushes my visual aesthetic buttons like old British stuff, though. You get over that after you've had to push one of the mother's up hill and down hill through the mountains for 20 miles to get it home when it has quit running for no apparent reason. After that the image of an old Norton or Velocette invokes your pain and misery button. ;-) Cheers!! Jim From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 15:13:38 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:13:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901101356y26b044d2g6dd3f8345e25d369@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <518513.96785.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > You get over that after you've had to push one of the > mother's up hill and > down hill through the mountains for 20 miles to get it home That's why we seek out BMW rider's clubs with liberal admission policies so we have a way to get home. Ron From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Jan 10 15:31:36 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:31:36 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Roanoke Area? Message-ID: I wanted to report back that I spoke with the guy from Roanoke, VA. last evening. As David already found out and mentioned in a follow-up message, the guy has about 45 years worth of British cars and parts, but nothing in the way of Sprites or Midgets. Turns out he worked for Standard Triumph back in the mid 60's, and bailed to start doing his own thing, right around the time of the merger into British Leyland. Since then he's been a local British car mechanic and restorer, and ran his own breaking yard as a result of that. At one time in his heyday he claims to have had over 100 TR3's and TR4's in his procession. He's now down to about 12-15 good restorable examples, which are all up for grabs. When it comes to Triumphs, he's either had them or still does. In addition to the 3's and 4's, his current collection includes Spitfires, GT6's, and two TR6's which are both nearly completed restorations. The vast majority of the cars and body shells are still out in the weather, but items such as seats, major body parts, glass, doors, dash assemblies, suspension components, engines, gear boxes, electrical items etc. have always been stored in a very organized manner in any of his six buildings on site. He figures to currently have in stock, body and mechanical parts from over 50 Triumphs which were cannibalized throughout the years. If there's a Triumph part you need, this is the man to speak to. Also, he has a few Jags, and MGB's, and has just made a deal to acquire a few cars from a guy, one being a '62 Midget. He also indicated that he's due to start the restoration of a '58 Sebring Sprite for a collector, but he didn't mention who it was or where the person is from. >From the sounds of it, the guy is starting to get on in years and is therefore looking to unload this stuff in a BIG way. I'm sure he'll still sell the small stuff on an individual basis, but he'd really like to see all this go out in large chunks. If this is of interest to you or any of your friends, let me know, and I'll put you in touch. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 10 15:54:18 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:54:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 In-Reply-To: <200901100623.n0A6Np0f014498@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu> References: <200901100623.n0A6Np0f014498@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <4969271A.4000006@comcast.net> Brian Seavey stopped by today and we figured out the problem. 1 bad bearing cap, #4 when loosened made everything all better. Looking at the cap it looks like some PO took it out with a very large hammer. Different cap and all is fine now. And the machine shop did ask if I wanted him to check the bearing ends for round, I said no. I know, a wrong rod cap is a no-no but this is a 1275 for my daughter, knowing her, she will blow it up no matter what I do to it ;) Thanks for all the ideas. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 15:54:39 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:54:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Filter Thoughts.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0901101454l3266b3f8v17b65cf4a5fbf64e@mail.gmail.com> I just read the following from another list I am on... ** The only filter testing I'm aware of done to ISO standards compared filters for a GM Duramax Diesel. An interesting result from those tests: Compared to the [stock filter], the K&N "plugged up" nearly 3 times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less dirt. See the data tables for a complete summary of these comparisons. ** Anyone else like me have a K&N filter on their car? I'm wondering what my options would be to return to a standard paper style filter for my HIF44 set up on a 1275..... Ideas are welcome.... -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 16:05:59 2009 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:05:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Filter Thoughts.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901101454l3266b3f8v17b65cf4a5fbf64e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901101454l3266b3f8v17b65cf4a5fbf64e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Jim, This is true for K&N OIL filters. (I have seen published data). Make sure the source of this information is comparing AIR filters before you jump to judgment. Kev On Jan 10, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > I just read the following from another list I am on... > > ** > The only filter testing I'm aware of done to ISO standards compared > filters for a GM Duramax Diesel. An interesting result from those > tests: > > Compared to the [stock filter], the K&N "plugged up" nearly 3 > times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less > dirt. See the data tables for a complete summary of these > comparisons From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Jan 10 16:21:39 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:21:39 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Air Filter Thoughts.... Message-ID: I think we've been here before with this - it's a resurface of the anti K&N brigade You can always use oiled metal gauze and let us know how it works out.... Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 10/01/2009 22:54:52 GMT Standard Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: I just read the following from another list I am on... ** The only filter testing I'm aware of done to ISO standards compared filters for a GM Duramax Diesel. An interesting result from those tests: Compared to the [stock filter], the K&N "plugged up" nearly 3 times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less dirt. See the data tables for a complete summary of these comparisons. ** Anyone else like me have a K&N filter on their car? I'm wondering what my options would be to return to a standard paper style filter for my HIF44 set up on a 1275..... Ideas are welcome.... -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson ______________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jan 10 16:35:12 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:35:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance References: <43840a7e0901101321j1553d3e0qef52965cc1b45ef1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On the discussion of the 2011 Spridget Event at the MGCars.org BBS (http://tinyurl.com/SCUM50), the topic of volunteering has been broached. Perhaps Jim could enlighten us with a list of "chiefs" needed for the event? I think he forgot to duck in time to avoid the mantle of Grand Poohbah again. I am perfectly willing to run the autocross. I believe someone is taking charge of the car show. What other roles are there? Pre-registration? Registration? Rally? Treasure hunt? Hospitality? Sponsors? Advertising? Annoying Ed? Tours? Never too early for someone else to start planning... David Lieb From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jan 10 16:41:20 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:41:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0901101321j1553d3e0qef52965cc1b45ef1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1765656680.20090110154120@pacifier.com> Hello David, It is not a matter of ducking the Title of Grand Poobah... It has been conferred upon him and is non transferable, either by him or us..... ...... for life.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" A husband is a lover who pushed his luck too far. From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 10 16:52:55 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:52:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <147760.89512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Final mention of Elkhart Lake before it dies completely - there are at least 6 list members I can think of right off the bat within an hour or two of the venue, several within 1/2 hour (Bud, Larry, Flounder... not sure about Chris?). I'm thinking an event there would be a lot easier to pull off with troops on the ground in those kind of numbers. Disclaimer: I live 2 hours from Elkhart and my wife has instructions to sprinkle my ashes 1/3 at Blackhawk Farms, 1/3 at Yankee Stadium (original site), and 1/3 at Road America at Elkhart Lake, so I am a little biased. Ron --- On Sat, 1/10/09, David Lieb wrote: > From: David Lieb > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 5:35 PM > On the discussion of the 2011 Spridget Event at the > MGCars.org BBS > (http://tinyurl.com/SCUM50), the topic of volunteering has > been > broached. Perhaps Jim could enlighten us with a list of > "chiefs" needed for the event? > I think he forgot to duck in time to avoid the mantle of > Grand Poohbah again. > I am perfectly willing to run the autocross. > I believe someone is taking charge of the car show. > What other roles are there? > Pre-registration? > Registration? > Rally? > Treasure hunt? > Hospitality? > Sponsors? > Advertising? > Annoying Ed? > Tours? > > Never too early for someone else to start planning... > David Lieb _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Sat Jan 10 16:53:47 2009 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:53:47 EST Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles Message-ID: I rode a '68 Bonneville for 10 years. At one point for one year it was my only vehicle, and it never let me down except it would mercifully would fail to start when the temp dropped below 45F. In Illinois (BTW our new State slogan is A Whole Lot of State for the Money) this meant from November to March, but in retrospect I must consider this a personal safety feature, because I was shivering so bad I couldn't work the clutch. TuTone In a message dated 1/10/2009 3:57:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Nothing pushes my visual aesthetic buttons like old British stuff, though. You get over that after you've had to push one of the mother's up hill and down hill through the mountains for 20 miles to get it home when it has quit running for no apparent reason. After that the image of an old Norton or Velocette invokes your pain and misery button. ;-) Cheers!! Jim You are subscribed as tmheffron at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From pilotrob at msn.com Sat Jan 10 16:56:39 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:56:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Air Filter Thoughts.... Message-ID: What kind of filter is the stock filter? Oil bath? CapBob -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:54 PM To: Spridgets, Midget/Sprite, bugeye Subject: [midgetsprite] Air Filter Thoughts.... I just read the following from another list I am on... ** The only filter testing I'm aware of done to ISO standards compared filters for a GM Duramax Diesel. An interesting result from those tests: Compared to the [stock filter], the K&N "plugged up" nearly 3 times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less dirt. See the data tables for a complete summary of these comparisons. ** Anyone else like me have a K&N filter on their car? I'm wondering what my options would be to return to a standard paper style filter for my HIF44 set up on a 1275..... Ideas are welcome.... -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From cbaustin at verizon.net Sat Jan 10 16:40:15 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:40:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old triumph Motorcycles Message-ID: <386C401446E146C8BCE7374570FCD0B1@universal1> OK, all you Brit-Bike-Droolers - check out eBay # 320329099344 Later, CB From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 17:12:39 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:12:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance In-Reply-To: <147760.89512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <147760.89512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8c1781040901101612u45024cfajd93a7b9bdca115a3@mail.gmail.com> Elkhart Lake is good for me. But the decision needs to be made soon so that I know how much begging I need to do get permission to be absent from family obligations. Trevor Jessie On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Final mention of Elkhart Lake before it dies completely - there are at least 6 list members I can think of right off the bat within an hour or two of the venue, several within 1/2 hour (Bud, Larry, Flounder... not sure about Chris?). I'm thinking an event there would be a lot easier to pull off with troops on the ground in those kind of numbers. > > Disclaimer: > I live 2 hours from Elkhart and my wife has instructions to sprinkle my ashes 1/3 at Blackhawk Farms, 1/3 at Yankee Stadium (original site), and 1/3 at Road America at Elkhart Lake, so I am a little biased. > > Ron > > --- On Sat, 1/10/09, David Lieb wrote: > >> From: David Lieb >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance >> To: "Spridgets" >> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 5:35 PM >> On the discussion of the 2011 Spridget Event at the >> MGCars.org BBS >> (http://tinyurl.com/SCUM50), the topic of volunteering has >> been >> broached. Perhaps Jim could enlighten us with a list of >> "chiefs" needed for the event? >> I think he forgot to duck in time to avoid the mantle of >> Grand Poohbah again. >> I am perfectly willing to run the autocross. >> I believe someone is taking charge of the car show. >> What other roles are there? >> Pre-registration? >> Registration? >> Rally? >> Treasure hunt? >> Hospitality? >> Sponsors? >> Advertising? >> Annoying Ed? >> Tours? >> >> Never too early for someone else to start planning... >> David Lieb _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as trevor.jessie at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sat Jan 10 17:54:05 2009 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:54:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance References: <43840a7e0901101321j1553d3e0qef52965cc1b45ef1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: And who gets the codpiece concession? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance > On the discussion of the 2011 Spridget Event at the MGCars.org BBS > (http://tinyurl.com/SCUM50), the topic of volunteering has been > broached. Perhaps Jim could enlighten us with a list of "chiefs" needed > for the event? > I think he forgot to duck in time to avoid the mantle of Grand Poohbah > again. > I am perfectly willing to run the autocross. > I believe someone is taking charge of the car show. > What other roles are there? > Pre-registration? > Registration? > Rally? > Treasure hunt? > Hospitality? > Sponsors? > Advertising? > Annoying Ed? > Tours? > > Never too early for someone else to start planning... > David Lieb _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as pdx.pete at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pdx.pete at verizon.net Sat Jan 10 18:08:44 2009 From: pdx.pete at verizon.net (Peter Shull) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:08:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A update Message-ID: <53E3179183884F32AC0389AC16B92619@DBKF4T81> I spoke to Paul and his girlfriend on New Year's Day and wanted to let you know that he is making the transition back to his own digs in Portland. He's been living with his girlfriend in Salem, which is about an hour south of Portland for the past many months and had been relying on her for transportation. This meant that trips back to his house and shop were brief and sporadic. Now that he can get around on his own and live in his own place he can start getting back to his normal routine. This should help immensely with his frame of mind ... he'd been having nightmares about his shop being burgled and all the tools and inventory stolen, etc., etc. Please note that as of 01/01/09 he still does not have internet service and, for some reason I don't fully understand, might be without it for a while longer. However, he can be reached via his landline should the need arise. I also wanted to let you know that he considers the donations to the Paul A fund to have been, in his own words, "an absolute lifesaver". Remember, these sources of these donations were kept anonymous. Therefore, Paul wouldn't know exactly who to thank ... but, he is extremely appreciative of your efforts on his behalf. Thanks, Pete From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 10 18:14:31 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:14:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance References: <147760.89512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2C377F7EAEFF4A91970EDEAEF31ED35F@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance Final mention of Elkhart Lake before it dies completely - there are at least 6 list members I can think of right off the bat within an hour or two of the venue, several within 1/2 hour (Bud, Larry, Flounder... not sure about Chris?). I'm thinking an event there would be a lot easier to pull off with troops on the ground in those kind of numbers. Disclaimer: I live 2 hours from Elkhart and my wife has instructions to sprinkle my ashes 1/3 at Blackhawk Farms, 1/3 at Yankee Stadium (original site), and 1/3 at Road America at Elkhart Lake, so I am a little biased. Ron ===================== I'm with Ron on this. The central part of the country is readily accessible from anywhere else in the country in a good 2 days. Coast to coast, at around the middle of the country, is about 3000 miles. That is 4 to 5 days in a Spridget or about 9 days round trip travel time. If you want to ensure a less than an optimum turnout, put it on either coast. You will automatically rule out a very large portion of the other coast. If that's what you want to do, go for it. Elkhart Lake is great, but anywhere in the central part of the country will ensure more people than either coast. It's very hard to argue that fact. So far, we have heard a lot of promotion from the left coast and very little feedback from those who won't even entertain the thought of going there. We have as much, or more, physical beauty and incredible driving roads as Nevada does in the Kettle Moraine Forests. LAD P.S. You can easily multiply Ron's numbers of close Spridgeteers and Brit car fans by 10. Our local Brit Car Club has well over 100 members within an hour of Elkhart. Full disclosure: I live 1 hour from Elkhart Lake. That changes nothing in the facts I cite. Also, my wife has instructions to have my brother, the pilot, drop all of my ashes over Road America. Even though I have spent more time and laps at Blackhawk, my heart is at RA. There is no other place like it.... Period. From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 10 18:28:09 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:28:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Air Filter Thoughts.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> Ditto, Kev !! <<(I have seen published data).>> Again, ditto!! AIR filters are a different story tho !! Ed PS: You & Families doing the Penn. LBC Rallye this year ???? From nases at verizon.net Sat Jan 10 18:31:58 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:31:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No Turn 1275 In-Reply-To: <4969271A.4000006@comcast.net> References: <200901100623.n0A6Np0f014498@xylocopa.ucdavis.edu> <4969271A.4000006@comcast.net> Message-ID: <93313E12-68FD-4823-95F0-983E5D23C796@verizon.net> The apple doesn't fall far from the tree ;) Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jan 10, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Brian Seavey stopped by today and we figured out the problem. > 1 bad bearing cap, #4 when loosened made everything all better. > Looking at the cap it looks like some PO took it out with a very > large hammer. > Different cap and all is fine now. And the machine shop did ask if I > wanted him to check the bearing ends for round, I said no. > I know, a wrong rod cap is a no-no but this is a 1275 for my > daughter, knowing her, she will blow it up no matter what I do to > it ;) > Thanks for all the ideas. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nases at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jan 10 18:32:28 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:32:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance In-Reply-To: <2C377F7EAEFF4A91970EDEAEF31ED35F@Larry> Message-ID: <20090111013229.FDKE6316.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> To add to all this, there are many other activities beyond Elkhart Lake for the rest of the families to visit and do things within a 45 minute drive. A top notch Zoo, Tons of ethnic festivals or fairs depending on the time of year, World class art museum, top notch golf courses, and many more things beyond malls. We can show you some serious roads to have fun with along with fantastic scenery. I'd love to take group through the Holy Hill area and hogs back road. Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:15 PM To: soavero at yahoo.com; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance Final mention of Elkhart Lake before it dies completely - there are at least 6 list members I can think of right off the bat within an hour or two of the venue, several within 1/2 hour (Bud, Larry, Flounder... not sure about Chris?). I'm thinking an event there would be a lot easier to pull off with troops on the ground in those kind of numbers. Disclaimer: I live 2 hours from Elkhart and my wife has instructions to sprinkle my ashes 1/3 at Blackhawk Farms, 1/3 at Yankee Stadium (original site), and 1/3 at Road America at Elkhart Lake, so I am a little biased. Ron ===================== I'm with Ron on this. The central part of the country is readily accessible from anywhere else in the country in a good 2 days. Coast to coast, at around the middle of the country, is about 3000 miles. That is 4 to 5 days in a Spridget or about 9 days round trip travel time. If you want to ensure a less than an optimum turnout, put it on either coast. You will automatically rule out a very large portion of the other coast. If that's what you want to do, go for it. Elkhart Lake is great, but anywhere in the central part of the country will ensure more people than either coast. It's very hard to argue that fact. So far, we have heard a lot of promotion from the left coast and very little feedback from those who won't even entertain the thought of going there. We have as much, or more, physical beauty and incredible driving roads as Nevada does in the Kettle Moraine Forests. LAD P.S. You can easily multiply Ron's numbers of close Spridgeteers and Brit car fans by 10. Our local Brit Car Club has well over 100 members within an hour of Elkhart. Full disclosure: I live 1 hour from Elkhart Lake. That changes nothing in the facts I cite. Also, my wife has instructions to have my brother, the pilot, drop all of my ashes over Road America. Even though I have spent more time and laps at Blackhawk, my heart is at RA. There is no other place like it.... Period. _______________________________________________ From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 19:08:39 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:08:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <386C401446E146C8BCE7374570FCD0B1@universal1> References: <386C401446E146C8BCE7374570FCD0B1@universal1> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901101808o2fa5b9b9yaeec734697ff5cb2@mail.gmail.com> Nice bike,but I'll keep my '64 Bonnie thank you. Herb Keep the sticky side down! From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 19:10:29 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:10:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance In-Reply-To: <708237.45633.qm@web45703.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <5F5954FEB4E34C0ABA107A3EA6FAF034@midget> <708237.45633.qm@web45703.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901101810p294dab89nbce2ad098bea6a1@mail.gmail.com> Jim, Host one for me at the "Spit". Herb From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Jan 10 19:13:30 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:13:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles In-Reply-To: <90568A462361432597B18B59358EE169@spider> References: <1BD024DBD67343BBBE6EEF152705FA29@midget> <90568A462361432597B18B59358EE169@spider> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901101813o9a77bc7ye9754b1dc8b686d4@mail.gmail.com> Or before... Herb in Southern Oregon On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:32 AM, wrote: > Let us know when he puts it on eBay. ...bill in oregon > =========================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:26 AM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] NMC Old Triumph Motorcycles > > I was out running the snowblower this morning and stopped to talk to the > guy > > halfway up the block from me. It turns out that he has a 1953 Triumph Tiger > in his garage. Originally 500cc, but it lost a tooth on the generator gear > and locked everything up, so he dropped in a 650cc engine instead. It isn't > really for sale, but he hasn't done anything with it for 20 years and > wouldn't mind finding it a happy home at some point. Why couldn't it be a > Bugeye?!?!?!? > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat Jan 10 19:13:43 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:13:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Is this someone from the list? NO LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <178E09C3-7090-4540-958C-01E39B59603B@phillymgclub.com> Apparently the dude is suing the ski resort, the first site/mag that published, and the photog. The photog lost his job over the shot. Must be true, I found it on the intertubes. (Huffingtonpost.com I believe). Larry On Jan 8, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Robert Duquette wrote: > Glad that this wasnt me!!! Are they sure it was a guy? Oh! I > guess it was cold  ;) > > http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0106091vail1.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Sat Jan 10 19:15:25 2009 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:15:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Paul A update In-Reply-To: <53E3179183884F32AC0389AC16B92619@DBKF4T81> References: <53E3179183884F32AC0389AC16B92619@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: All, I talked to Paul a couple times this week. He is indeed back at home and he sounds like his old self again. In conversations, he has expressed his appreciation, more than a few times, regarding the fund. I have been fortunate to talk to him occasionally and and he has always kept his sense of humor, joking about all manner of things, including the boredom, the lack of ability to do the things he loves and his memory loss from the medications. It's really good to hear he is back home and how well he is doing. Gerard On Jan 10, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Peter Shull wrote: > > I spoke to Paul and his girlfriend on New Year's Day and wanted to > let you know that he is making the transition back to his own digs > in Portland. He's been living with his girlfriend in Salem, which > is about an hour south of Portland for the past many months and had > been relying on her for transportation. This meant that trips back > to his house and shop were brief and sporadic. Now that he can get > around on his own and live in his own place he can start getting > back to his normal routine. This should help immensely with his > frame of mind ... he'd been having nightmares about his shop being > burgled and all the tools and inventory stolen, etc., etc. > > Please note that as of 01/01/09 he still does not have internet > service and, for some reason I don't fully understand, might be > without it for a while longer. However, he can be reached via his > landline should the need arise. > > I also wanted to let you know that he considers the donations to > the Paul A fund to have been, in his own words, "an absolute > lifesaver". Remember, these sources of these donations were kept > anonymous. Therefore, Paul wouldn't know exactly who to thank ... > but, he is extremely appreciative of your efforts on his behalf. > > Thanks, > Pete > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------------------ > > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye > Sprite Club, please send a blank email to: bugeye- > unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a > member of the group, you may go to the website http:// > groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ and change your subscription to "Web > Only" and you will not receive any emails. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/join > (Yahoo! ID required) > > <*> To change settings via email: > mailto:bugeye-digest at yahoogroups.com > mailto:bugeye-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jan 10 20:05:46 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:05:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance References: <147760.89512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0D95BACF415541038EF44BFD62EA684A@HP> I would love an excuse to pay another visit to Elkhart Lake. I live in central California so it's probably a 4 day drive each way for me. I will go to either place but would really like to go to Elkhart Lake again. I would drive if going to Elko but will trailer if Elkhart Lake is selected. Larry Miller ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance > Final mention of Elkhart Lake before it dies completely - there are at > least 6 list members I can think of right off the bat within an hour or > two of the venue, several within 1/2 hour (Bud, Larry, Flounder... not > sure about Chris?). I'm thinking an event there would be a lot easier to > pull off with troops on the ground in those kind of numbers. > > Disclaimer: > I live 2 hours from Elkhart and my wife has instructions to sprinkle my > ashes 1/3 at Blackhawk Farms, 1/3 at Yankee Stadium (original site), and > 1/3 at Road America at Elkhart Lake, so I am a little biased. > > Ron > > --- On Sat, 1/10/09, David Lieb wrote: > >> From: David Lieb >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance >> To: "Spridgets" >> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 5:35 PM >> On the discussion of the 2011 Spridget Event at the >> MGCars.org BBS >> (http://tinyurl.com/SCUM50), the topic of volunteering has >> been >> broached. Perhaps Jim could enlighten us with a list of >> "chiefs" needed for the event? >> I think he forgot to duck in time to avoid the mantle of >> Grand Poohbah again. >> I am perfectly willing to run the autocross. >> I believe someone is taking charge of the car show. >> What other roles are there? >> Pre-registration? >> Registration? >> Rally? >> Treasure hunt? >> Hospitality? >> Sponsors? >> Advertising? >> Annoying Ed? >> Tours? >> >> Never too early for someone else to start planning... >> David Lieb _______________________________________________ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 10 20:15:08 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:15:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Sridget Event In-Reply-To: References: <603064.54329.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com><1784981352.20090110084644@pacifier.com> <1425097935.20090110084737@pacifier.com> <1258618578.20090110094807@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4969643C.7090804@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: > Perhaps there should be a separate category for Iron Butt Spridgeters? > You mean "Numbutt Spridgeteers" -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Sun Jan 11 08:48:40 2009 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:48:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Intake Manifolds Message-ID: <8055938.1231688920730.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> Timothy H. Collins wrote: Why is that chamfer there? The bakelite blocks I have seen are a > constant 1.25" in diameter. It seems to me that when assembled, there > is a discontinuity at the point the bakelite meets the manifold - two > different diameters. >Please explain why the chamfer is on these manifolds. My 1098 > manifold has no chamfer. > Some of the manifolds I've seen are very thick at the bend, and that chamfer leaves a hole that is much smaller than it should be, but it is the best transition you can obtain without much more work. The chamfer is just the easiest thing they could do in one operation to clean up the opening. A straight bore on the same axis as the carb would leave a horrible step and obstruction to flow. John Fogelsville, PA From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jan 11 08:54:43 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:54:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Intake Manifolds In-Reply-To: <8055938.1231688920730.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> References: <8055938.1231688920730.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <2043BD36CE3B474F85AC849B7F9B2DA6@spider> Did you read the piece I linked to earlier? It creates a step/pressure-change which disturbs the standing-wave so you don't get an effect that some feel is counterproductive. ...bill ============================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John D. Caffrey Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 7:49 AM To: Timothy H. Collins Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Intake Manifolds Timothy H. Collins wrote: Why is that chamfer there? The bakelite blocks I have seen are a > constant 1.25" in diameter. It seems to me that when assembled, there > is a discontinuity at the point the bakelite meets the manifold - two > different diameters. >Please explain why the chamfer is on these manifolds. My 1098 > manifold has no chamfer. > Some of the manifolds I've seen are very thick at the bend, and that chamfer leaves a hole that is much smaller than it should be, but it is the best transition you can obtain without much more work. The chamfer is just the easiest thing they could do in one operation to clean up the opening. A straight bore on the same axis as the carb would leave a horrible step and obstruction to flow. John Fogelsville, PA _______________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 11 09:46:23 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:46:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance References: <147760.89512.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2C377F7EAEFF4A91970EDEAEF31ED35F@Larry> Message-ID: Full disclosure: I live on the northwest edge of the Chicago area, convenient to Road America. I do not race. Don't get me wrong; I like Road America. I think it is lovely and a great site for an event. Someone way back made a comment about it being quiet during the week? Having been there during the week, I can assure you that you cannot take that for granted. Skip Barber uses it for racing schools. Yes, there are some nice roads in the Kettle Morraine area, at least by Midwest standards. There is also an abundance of mind-numbingly boring roads. Also, it is 400 miles or so north of LotO. Not a big deal, perhaps, but it means that the people coming from the east get the great joy and privilege of driving through the Chicago area just to get around the bottom of Lake Michigan. What a PAIN!!! I suppose that it could be fun to take the SS Badger car ferry from Luddington, MI to Manitowoc, WI, only about an hour from Road America, but that runs $70 per vehicle PLUS $67 per adult one way. Plus another $40 or so if you have a trailer. Not exactly cheap, but you could promise your wife that you will take her on a cruise ;-) Or you could take the scenic route through the Michigan Upper Penninsula... This location disenfranchises the same people that the last event did. This country is simply too big. Somewhere along the line we have to accept that not everyone can expect to make it to every event. Sure, there will be some diehards out there who will, at great personal sacrifice and expense. Ask Larry Miller how much his trip to LotO cost. It is not possible to please everybody every time. Volunteers willing and able to do the work necessary to plan an event like this seem to be a little thin on the ground. Jim is a bit gullible, but I doubt he will do another one. Who wants to step forward as trainee? Perhaps someone should volunteer to host the 50th celebration of the Sprite Mk III / Midget Mk II out east in 2014? David Lieb From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jan 11 11:22:08 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:22:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original jack tools question... In-Reply-To: <0EA76832558B427D936074C4F8E0B2F1@blackbox2> References: <0EA76832558B427D936074C4F8E0B2F1@blackbox2> Message-ID: <2E3B3AA1-833B-490F-B6B5-9D1B56E313C9@mac.com> All the tools in my '60 were / are black. No idea when they changed colors. My understanding is, from a few discussion sessions that I have been able to attend with family or folks that were involved in with Healeys, the factory frequently used what ever color paint that was on hand or at the near by hardware store if they ran out of paint. This was particularly true for non-body color parts. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 10, 2009, at 1:51 AM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Up on ebay, item number 300284883005 is a fairly unmolested bugeye > "barn find". > Actually not a bad starting point for a restoration I might add.. > > If you look at the last picture it shows the original jack, > ratchet, and lug wrench. > Are those the orginal colors of those tools? > Red jack and lug wrench and white for the ratchet? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jan 11 11:40:33 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:40:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ed's email In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <036FF790-35A2-4A8B-A5DC-DF5AEFEFF1B0@mac.com> List, Just got the following note for Ed. As you can see he has been having computer problems. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 10, 2009, at 8:22 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > Bob, been having the absolute WORST mail/computer probs I have EVER > had!! > > > Please tell List(s) and also if anybody has asked/written me in the > past week - 10 days to re-write as I HAVE 'lost' (no yet "re- > constructed" > if I even have) !! > > THANKS!! From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jan 11 11:46:46 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:46:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Elko, Tahoe In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901091117j72855ce7vf721fa01df400404@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Kirk, This is a great drive. Us low landers would have to tweak the carbs for those 7,000 - 10,000 ft elevations or install a supercharger. :-) I had a Judson on my car in 1960 and just went buzzing by a new Pontiac Safari whose engine was gasping for air while crossing over Tioga Pass (10,000 ft) - - what fun. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 9, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > The Tahoe area is so incredibly beautiful. > > The ride around Lake Tahoe is like entering a whole new world. > > Each summer I have taken a Harley ride around the Western segment > of the > lake, spend the night in a camp site and then take 395 along Mono > Lake into > the park - then up to Glacier Point. I ride with 4 or 5 other > friends. > > I have often thought how perfect the area would be to travel it in > my 59 BE > (which I would rather be driving than sitting on a bike). > > We also take a swim in the lake to cool down (those helmets keep > the heat in > during the summer months). > > What a blast to cruise that place with your hair blowing in the wind! > > There are a lot of great little places to eat along side of the > lake and > little shops, antiques and things. > > Just a thought. . . . > > Kirk From bkitterer at mac.com Sun Jan 11 11:57:59 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:57:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A update In-Reply-To: <53E3179183884F32AC0389AC16B92619@DBKF4T81> References: <53E3179183884F32AC0389AC16B92619@DBKF4T81> Message-ID: Paul, This is great news. Thank you for keeping the list posted with Paul's progress. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 10, 2009, at 5:08 PM, Peter Shull wrote: > I spoke to Paul and his girlfriend on New Year's Day and wanted to > let you > know that he is making the transition back to his own digs in > Portland. He's > been living with his girlfriend in Salem, which is about an hour > south of > Portland for the past many months and had been relying on her for > transportation. This meant that trips back to his house and shop > were brief > and sporadic. Now that he can get around on his own and live in his > own place > he can start getting back to his normal routine. This should help > immensely > with his frame of mind ... he'd been having nightmares about his > shop being > burgled and all the tools and inventory stolen, etc., etc. > > Please note that as of 01/01/09 he still does not have internet > service and, > for some reason I don't fully understand, might be without it for a > while > longer. However, he can be reached via his landline should the need > arise. > > I also wanted to let you know that he considers the donations to > the Paul A > fund to have been, in his own words, "an absolute lifesaver". > Remember, these > sources of these donations were kept anonymous. Therefore, Paul > wouldn't know > exactly who to thank ... but, he is extremely appreciative of your > efforts on > his behalf. > > Thanks, > Pete > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Sun Jan 11 13:21:55 2009 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:21:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Swap Message-ID: <20058250.1231705315617.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> Pictures of an interesting swap half-way down the page. http://tinyurl.com/8u6grh John Fogelsville, PA From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Sun Jan 11 13:22:22 2009 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:22:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye original jack tools question... In-Reply-To: <20090110122244.BSJQ3.526898.imail@fed1rmwml25> Message-ID: Yes indeed. Mine were, and are black. Bobby -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of hardy.john at cox.net Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:23 PM To: Dean Hedin; Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye original jack tools question... Dean, I believe that the tools for 58-60 Sprites where all painted black. Later model Midget and Sprite MkII/III had both gray and a orange red color. Cheers, John ---- Dean Hedin wrote: > Up on ebay, item number 300284883005 is a fairly unmolested bugeye "barn find". > Actually not a bad starting point for a restoration I might add.. > > If you look at the last picture it shows the original jack, ratchet, and lug wrench. > Are those the orginal colors of those tools? > > Red jack and lug wrench and white for the ratchet? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hardy.john at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as bogodwin at bellsouth.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Sun Jan 11 13:32:21 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:32:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Swap In-Reply-To: <20058250.1231705315617.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> References: <20058250.1231705315617.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <8c1781040901111232r2b550fb7y82c1e28466849bea@mail.gmail.com> I had to look twice to be sure it wasn't photoshop'd ! On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM, John D. Caffrey wrote: > Pictures of an interesting swap half-way down the page. > > http://tinyurl.com/8u6grh > > John > > Fogelsville, PA From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 11 13:36:30 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:36:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Swap References: <20058250.1231705315617.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> <8c1781040901111232r2b550fb7y82c1e28466849bea@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >I had to look twice to be sure it wasn't photoshop'd ! I am still not sure ;-) I have seen enough pictures of Minis with Honda drivetrains, but this is the first time I have seen turnabout! David Lieb From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 11 13:55:03 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:55:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Swap In-Reply-To: <20058250.1231705315617.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> Message-ID: <715648.31315.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I guess this is what you do with the leftovers from your Civic-powered Mini project... David Booker '71 Midget Long Island --- On Sun, 1/11/09, John D. Caffrey wrote: From: John D. Caffrey Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Swap To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 2:21 PM Pictures of an interesting swap half-way down the page. http://tinyurl.com/8u6grh John Fogelsville, PA You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Sun Jan 11 14:47:04 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:47:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] For MINI types only Message-ID: Anybody know where I can pick up 2 Mini Cooper Center Caps http://ado13.com/temp/minicap.jpg MOSS price is $55.95 USD From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sun Jan 11 15:34:33 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:34:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment Message-ID: <37dc82d40901111434w42d9f002v4c7c0235146c73df@mail.gmail.com> Regarding Brit bikes. . . . I had a 1970 Triumph Tiger, 650cc, single carb (Bonny's had the double carb otherwise the same bike). I rode it for several years as my main transport. I was also a full time Sr. Pastor of a large church at the time. Some of the more conservative members were thrown off when they saw me pull into the parking lot of the church. I pulled off my full face helmet with tinted face cover and when they saw it was their "Pastor" they were a bit stunned. I had to remind them that riding a Triumph was the only theologically correct bike to ride and that it was noted in the Old Testament, "David's triumph could be heard all throughout the land." As far as the bike was concerned, it never gave me any trouble, it ran flawlessly. It did leak, as they all leak on the showroom floor (the way they split cases guaranteed leaks). To me, this is another example of a well built Brit machine. Kirk 59 Bug Eye 1275, etc etc etc etc etc From Miniac7 at aol.com Sun Jan 11 15:43:35 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:43:35 EST Subject: [Spridgets] For MINI types only Message-ID: In a message dated 1/11/2009 4:47:26 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, millerls at ado13.com writes: _http://ado13.com/temp/minicap.jpg_ (http://ado13.com/temp/minicap.jpg) Try here... _http://www.minispares.com/Shop.aspx?ty=sv%7ccid%3d20%7ctitle%3dWheels_ (http://www.minispares.com/Shop.aspx?ty=sv|cid=20|title=Wheels) **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sun Jan 11 16:34:43 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:34:43 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901111434w42d9f002v4c7c0235146c73df@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901111434w42d9f002v4c7c0235146c73df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: I had a 1970 Triumph Tiger, 650cc, single carb (Bonny's had the double carb otherwise the same bike). As far as the bike was concerned, it never gave me any trouble, it ran flawlessly. -- I had a 67 Tiger... It ran very well but if you revved it past 6K with the headlight on, the light would go out. If you did it while the light was off, it would come on! It also blew xenor diodes a few times... Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jan 11 17:17:00 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 19:17:00 EST Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment Message-ID: I thought it was Moses? Guess whoever it was ran it on straight pipes? In a message dated 11/01/2009 22:34:50 GMT Standard Time, khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: I had to remind them that riding a Triumph was the only theologically correct bike to ride and that it was noted in the Old Testament, "David's triumph could be heard all throughout the land." From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Jan 11 18:28:59 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:28:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Second cool drive In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910811240709p3314748ai3d73a9e13f3d1bc5@mail.gmail.com><729656.1081.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0811241321x54d5babemb797732c795d6bf2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <496A9CDB.9030801@gmail.com> Like there is a difference? Larry Macy wrote: > Now, being from Wyoming, I have to respectfully disagree. That is > Montana and Utah. > > Larry From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com Mon Jan 12 00:11:05 2009 From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 23:11:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10901101810p294dab89nbce2ad098bea6a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <437845.85809.qm@web45715.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Herb, I assume you mean at the "Salty Dog Saloon". Will do !! as soon as they open in the spring. Regards, Jim Homer AK --- On Sun, 1/11/09, WFO Herb wrote: From: WFO Herb Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fwd: Re: 2011 Spridget Event -Longest distance To: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com Cc: "Spridgets" Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 2:10 AM Jim, Host one for me at the "Spit". Herb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 00:11:26 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:11:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th and beyond.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0901112311n4d649b40g75079be9c5dbad13@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone... After answering some tough questions concerning venue selection (which is still not finalized) for the Midget 50th in 2011 I got to thinking about ways to make this process easier. As many have suggested, we should make this a movable feast much like the AHCA Conclave and the NAMGBR MG events. Theirs are annual but our group is a bit smaller so every three years seems more doable for Spridgets Anonymous + 1 El Camino & 1 Mini (sic ;-). Given that thought and given the Midget 50th in 2011, the next few events would be in 2014 and 2017. To aid in selecting a venue and to get a head start on it all, let's select the next two venues at the 2011 event. I.E. have a suggested venue for 2014 and 2017, bring it with you to 2011 and we will vote on it as a group! That far in advance no ground work would be necessary. That stuff can all be developed later. Does that sound like a good idea? -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 12 05:51:45 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 06:51:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th and beyond.... References: <43840a7e0901112311n4d649b40g75079be9c5dbad13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Given that thought and given the Midget 50th in 2011, the next few events > would be in 2014 and 2017. To aid in selecting a venue and to get a head > start on it all, let's select the next two venues at the 2011 event. I.E. > have a suggested venue for 2014 and 2017, bring it with you to 2011 and we > will vote on it as a group! That far in advance no ground work would be > necessary. That stuff can all be developed later. > > Does that sound like a good idea? NO, it does not. Who would be voting there? The ones who were able to get to that venue. Sorta slants the results a bit, no? (Disclaimer: living in the Chicago area, I can be considered an expert on slanting results in voting.) David Lieb From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 06:17:20 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:17:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Midget 50th and beyond.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901112311n4d649b40g75079be9c5dbad13@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901112311n4d649b40g75079be9c5dbad13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c1781040901120517i701e8e93t1e53b69a303578cb@mail.gmail.com> What we need is an application form. Then anyone wanting to submit a venue could answer the same questions and a comparison can be done and a decision can be made. Top line on the form needs to be the name of the area coordinator that is volunteering to do the footwork. Trevor Jessie On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Hello everyone... > > After answering some tough questions concerning venue selection (which is > still not finalized) for the Midget 50th in 2011 I got to thinking about > ways to make this process easier. As many have suggested, we should make > this a movable feast much like the AHCA Conclave and the NAMGBR MG events. > Theirs are annual but our group is a bit smaller so every three years seems > more doable for Spridgets Anonymous + 1 El Camino & 1 Mini (sic ;-). > > Given that thought and given the Midget 50th in 2011, the next few events > would be in 2014 and 2017. To aid in selecting a venue and to get a head > start on it all, let's select the next two venues at the 2011 event. I.E. > have a suggested venue for 2014 and 2017, bring it with you to 2011 and we > will vote on it as a group! That far in advance no ground work would be > necessary. That stuff can all be developed later. > > Does that sound like a good idea? > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough > to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Calendar > MARKETPLACE > ________________________________ > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format > to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > Recent Activity > > 4 > New Members > 5 > New Photos > > Visit Your Group > Yahoo! News > > Fashion News > > What's the word on > > fashion and style? > > Yahoo! Finance > > It's Now Personal > > Guides, news, > > advice & more. > > Group Charity > > Give a laptop > > Get a laptop: One > > laptop per child > > . > __,_._,___ From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jan 12 06:51:44 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:51:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th and beyond.... In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0901112311n4d649b40g75079be9c5dbad13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <368676844.20090112055144@pacifier.com> Hello David, You've nailed the problem perfectly. I saw this problem happen when we voted to change the UNION meeting time from 8:00 to 5:00. I've heard more gripes since from those who can't make the 5:00 meeting that they would go if it were moved back a couple of hours, but since they can't get to the meeting, and those who DO do got the 5:00 want it to stay there, it never gets moved back to the time of the greater participation. ... No matter WHERE the meeting is held it will skew the results in favor of meeting nearest to where the vote is held. The problem with Trevor's solution, is that it presumes that we are organized enough to actually hold a vote on ANYTHING. He is right in wanting the person suggesting a venue to be the one charge of that venue. It'll keep the riff raff from just popping off and insure that only venues that HAVE and organizer will be suggested... There are NO ideal solutions... the country is just too big. Somebody just has to pick one and go with it......and live with the results....We can't all be happy all the time, and life isn't always fair. my 2 cents. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 07:02:27 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:02:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th and beyond.... In-Reply-To: <368676844.20090112055144@pacifier.com> References: <43840a7e0901112311n4d649b40g75079be9c5dbad13@mail.gmail.com> <368676844.20090112055144@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <8c1781040901120602k185bafadp385d3182927a9030@mail.gmail.com> One clarification. My proposal did not mention voting on anything. It merely would be a tool to help make a decision and the first line of the application(name of area coordinator) would weigh heavily. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello David, > > You've nailed the problem perfectly. I saw this problem happen > when we voted to change the UNION meeting time from 8:00 to 5:00. > I've heard more gripes since from those who can't make the 5:00 > meeting that they would go if it were moved back a couple of > hours, but since they can't get to the meeting, and those who DO > do got the 5:00 want it to stay there, it never gets moved back > to the time of the greater participation. ... > > No matter WHERE the meeting is held it will skew the results in > favor of meeting nearest to where the vote is held. > > The problem with Trevor's solution, is that it presumes that we > are organized enough to actually hold a vote on ANYTHING. > > He is right in wanting the person suggesting a venue to be the one > charge of that venue. It'll keep the riff raff from just popping > off and insure that only venues that HAVE and organizer will be > suggested... > > There are NO ideal solutions... the country is just too big. > Somebody just has to pick one and go with it......and live with > the results....We can't all be happy all the time, and life isn't > always fair. > > my 2 cents. > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jan 12 08:01:28 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:01:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th and beyond.... In-Reply-To: <368676844.20090112055144@pacifier.com> References: <43840a7e0901112311n4d649b40g75079be9c5dbad13@mail.gmail.com> <368676844.20090112055144@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <7693E806D5F9495D9FACE9A111A137B4@Home> >The problem with Trevor's solution, is that it presumes that we >are organized enough to actually hold a vote on ANYTHING. Anyone who had children knows that it is always the same people who volunteer for group activities/hot dog stand/cleanup/etc., year after year. Since inevitably these regulars will do all the work, it should be they who decide the venue. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From jmj3351 at comcast.net Mon Jan 12 08:09:30 2009 From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901111434w42d9f002v4c7c0235146c73df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2126763777.1352991231772970426.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I had a Triumph Daytona and a Tiger, the only problems were always caused by the English gremlins in the electrical systems.B We all know why the English drink warm beer, Lucas made the refrigerators. JMJ - Green 1500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:34:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment Regarding Brit bikes. . . . I had a 1970 Triumph Tiger, 650cc, single carb (Bonny's had the double carb otherwise the same bike). I rode it for several years as my main transport. B I was also a full time Sr. Pastor of a large church at the time. Some of the more conservative members were thrown off when they saw me pull into the parking lot of the church. B I pulled off my full face helmet with tinted face cover and when they saw it was their "Pastor" they were a bit stunned. I had to remind them that riding a Triumph was the only theologically correct bike to ride and that it was noted in the Old Testament, B "David's triumph could be heard all throughout the land." As far as the bike was concerned, it never gave me any trouble, it ran flawlessly. B It did leak, as they all leak on the showroom floor (the way they split cases guaranteed leaks). To me, this is another example of a well built Brit machine. Kirk 59 B Bug Eye 1275, etc etc etc etc etc From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 12 08:34:20 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:34:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment References: <2126763777.1352991231772970426.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <05645C452EFD48CB99F86065BAC67A77@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: I had a Triumph Daytona and a Tiger, the only problems were always caused by the English gremlins in the electrical systems.B We all know why the English drink warm beer, Lucas made the refrigerators. JMJ - Green 1500 ========================= The difference between an old English car and an old English bike is that it is easier to push the bike home. One of the first bikes I rode was a Bonneville. LAD From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon Jan 12 08:45:31 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:45:31 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] ELko-2011 Message-ID: <20090112.084531.22924.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> It doesn't matter to me where 2011 is, Elkoo or Elkhart Lake, it's still ~2 day drive, whether in the '58 or the '62. Plus there's the carb tuning no matter where I go -It's ALL Downhill from here (8800' elevation). My only concern is the heat of the desert with the minimal cooling abilities of the cross flow (maybe a good reason to put in an electric fan!). I've driven across Nevada before, but that was from 12am to 5 am at 100+ (VBG). Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Click here to find the right business program for you and take your career to the next level. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/PnY6rc0pB8mdFTSCMUQqVmUuifXgCm lkz635WqA2ZqGip9LL6Dgmg/ From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 12:50:18 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:50:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment In-Reply-To: <2126763777.1352991231772970426.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <37dc82d40901111434w42d9f002v4c7c0235146c73df@mail.gmail.com> <2126763777.1352991231772970426.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901121150u54250834l76ecee7f43cf8e75@mail.gmail.com> Many years back, a friend of mine, Rex Sebring of Sebring Electronics built a 'battery eliminator' for my '64. I put one on my Bonneville, my brothers '64 and my '70 BSA. All three bikes still have the units and still start/run with absolutely no problems. Herb On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:09 AM, wrote: > I had a Triumph Daytona and a Tiger, the only problems were always caused > by > the English gremlins in the electrical systems.B We all know why the > English > drink warm beer, Lucas made the refrigerators. > > > > JMJ - Green 1500 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kirk Hargreaves" > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:34:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment > > Regarding Brit bikes. . . . > > > I had a 1970 Triumph Tiger, 650cc, single carb (Bonny's had the double carb > otherwise the same bike). > > I rode it for several years as my main transport. B I was also a full time > Sr. Pastor of a large church at the time. > > Some of the more conservative members were thrown off when they saw me pull > into the parking lot of the church. B I pulled off my full face helmet with > tinted face cover and when they saw it was their "Pastor" they were a bit > stunned. > > I had to remind them that riding a Triumph was the only theologically > correct bike to ride and that it was noted in the Old Testament, B "David's > triumph could be heard all throughout the land." > > As far as the bike was concerned, it never gave me any trouble, it ran > flawlessly. B It did leak, as they all leak on the showroom floor (the way > they split cases guaranteed leaks). > > To me, this is another example of a well built Brit machine. > > Kirk > 59 B Bug Eye 1275, etc etc etc etc etc > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 12:58:08 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:58:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10901121150u54250834l76ecee7f43cf8e75@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901111434w42d9f002v4c7c0235146c73df@mail.gmail.com> <2126763777.1352991231772970426.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <2ad6c6b10901121150u54250834l76ecee7f43cf8e75@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901121158o169cb6a9i2056b8fe20729f4c@mail.gmail.com> Herb, What kind of battery eliminator was it? I thought those bikes were magneto systems like my 64 BMW. I can run it just fine with no battery. The old Tiger I had when in high school (don't ask when) was a magneto bike too. It ran just fine with no battery. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Many years back, a friend of mine, Rex Sebring of Sebring Electronics built > a 'battery eliminator' for my '64. I put one on my Bonneville, my brothers > '64 and my '70 BSA. All three bikes still have the units and still > start/run with absolutely no problems. > > Herb > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:09 AM, wrote: > > > I had a Triumph Daytona and a Tiger, the only problems were always caused > > by > > the English gremlins in the electrical systems.B We all know why the > > English > > drink warm beer, Lucas made the refrigerators. > > > > > > > > JMJ - Green 1500 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kirk Hargreaves" > > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 5:34:33 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > > Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment > > > > Regarding Brit bikes. . . . > > > > > > I had a 1970 Triumph Tiger, 650cc, single carb (Bonny's had the double > carb > > otherwise the same bike). > > > > I rode it for several years as my main transport. B I was also a full > time > > Sr. Pastor of a large church at the time. > > > > Some of the more conservative members were thrown off when they saw me > pull > > into the parking lot of the church. B I pulled off my full face helmet > with > > tinted face cover and when they saw it was their "Pastor" they were a bit > > stunned. > > > > I had to remind them that riding a Triumph was the only theologically > > correct bike to ride and that it was noted in the Old Testament, B > "David's > > triumph could be heard all throughout the land." > > > > As far as the bike was concerned, it never gave me any trouble, it ran > > flawlessly. B It did leak, as they all leak on the showroom floor (the > way > > they split cases guaranteed leaks). > > > > To me, this is another example of a well built Brit machine. > > > > Kirk > > 59 B Bug Eye 1275, etc etc etc etc etc > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 12 13:35:37 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:35:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment References: <37dc82d40901111434w42d9f002v4c7c0235146c73df@mail.gmail.com><2126763777.1352991231772970426.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><2ad6c6b10901121150u54250834l76ecee7f43cf8e75@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0901121158o169cb6a9i2056b8fe20729f4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <835D8FA178C447E1911113CEFEC700C9@NilesAD.von.gov> > What kind of battery eliminator was it? I thought those bikes were magneto > systems like my 64 BMW. I can run it just fine with no battery. The old > Tiger I had when in high school (don't ask when) was a magneto bike too. > It > ran just fine with no battery. I was under the impression that running them with no battery tended to allow the voltage to fluctuate madly and burn stuff out for you? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 14:07:23 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:07:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment In-Reply-To: <835D8FA178C447E1911113CEFEC700C9@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <37dc82d40901111434w42d9f002v4c7c0235146c73df@mail.gmail.com> <2126763777.1352991231772970426.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <2ad6c6b10901121150u54250834l76ecee7f43cf8e75@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0901121158o169cb6a9i2056b8fe20729f4c@mail.gmail.com> <835D8FA178C447E1911113CEFEC700C9@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901121307s7de06f9tde28e0b54ab38b84@mail.gmail.com> Only if there is no voltage regulator in the system. The only drawback I know of with a magneto system with no battery is that there is no load on the battery charging circuit. As a result, and over a great deal of time, the magnetic field in the magento armature weakens and the magnets need to be re-magnetized. It is a fairly easy thing to do however. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:35 PM, David Lieb wrote: > What kind of battery eliminator was it? I thought those bikes were magneto >> systems like my 64 BMW. I can run it just fine with no battery. The old >> Tiger I had when in high school (don't ask when) was a magneto bike too. >> It >> ran just fine with no battery. >> > > I was under the impression that running them with no battery tended to > allow the voltage to fluctuate madly and burn stuff out for you? > David Lieb > 1972 1960 1974 1973 _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From bighealey at charter.net Mon Jan 12 15:22:13 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:22:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil leak near dipstick on 1500 Message-ID: My 1500 has an oil leak on the dipstick side of the motor. I replaced the sump gasket but still cannot seem to find the source. The dipstick has an original style felt washer. Any ideas for those experienced with these Triumph motors? It happens when the car is running and is more than an acceptable occasional drip. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 16:32:17 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:32:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Poor mans intake porting In-Reply-To: <8140BD36C4594613A58D880E4EA01AFC@ProRaceSupply> References: <43840a7e0901111922s76b491f3wce17f795afdf397f@mail.gmail.com> <8140BD36C4594613A58D880E4EA01AFC@ProRaceSupply> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901121532h285a135ax1fa087908921a158@mail.gmail.com> http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267 Definitely worth the read. Cheers!! Jim From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Jan 12 16:43:11 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 15:43:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th and beyond.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901112311n4d649b40g75079be9c5dbad13@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901112311n4d649b40g75079be9c5dbad13@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: That's what we always used to do at MiniMeetWest and it seemed to work well, but those were also annual. Bill > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:11:26 -0600 > From: bmwwxman at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net; midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com; bugeye at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th and beyond.... > > Hello everyone... > > After answering some tough questions concerning venue selection (which is > still not finalized) for the Midget 50th in 2011 I got to thinking about > ways to make this process easier. As many have suggested, we should make > this a movable feast much like the AHCA Conclave and the NAMGBR MG events. > Theirs are annual but our group is a bit smaller so every three years seems > more doable for Spridgets Anonymous + 1 El Camino & 1 Mini (sic ;-). > > Given that thought and given the Midget 50th in 2011, the next few events > would be in 2014 and 2017. To aid in selecting a venue and to get a head > start on it all, let's select the next two venues at the 2011 event. I.E. > have a suggested venue for 2014 and 2017, bring it with you to 2011 and we > will vote on it as a group! That far in advance no ground work would be > necessary. That stuff can all be developed later. > > Does that sound like a good idea? > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough > to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_hm_justgotbetter_explore_ 012009 From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 18:10:42 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:10:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment In-Reply-To: <835D8FA178C447E1911113CEFEC700C9@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <37dc82d40901111434w42d9f002v4c7c0235146c73df@mail.gmail.com> <2126763777.1352991231772970426.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <2ad6c6b10901121150u54250834l76ecee7f43cf8e75@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0901121158o169cb6a9i2056b8fe20729f4c@mail.gmail.com> <835D8FA178C447E1911113CEFEC700C9@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901121710s7c647d7ahc7c1c6274ff7aaaa@mail.gmail.com> Not much to burn out on my '64. Only head and tail lights. Like I said, no problems in all the years I've had the unit. Herb On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM, David Lieb wrote: > What kind of battery eliminator was it? I thought those bikes were >> magneto >> systems like my 64 BMW. I can run it just fine with no battery. The old >> Tiger I had when in high school (don't ask when) was a magneto bike too. >> It >> ran just fine with no battery. >> > > I was under the impression that running them with no battery tended to > allow the voltage to fluctuate madly and burn stuff out for you? > David Lieb > 1972 1960 1974 1973 _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cclabaw at juno.com Mon Jan 12 18:51:10 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:51:10 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment Message-ID: <20090112.175110.1278.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Back in the day... Battery eliminators were just big capacitors; kept the lights on for a minute or so at stop signs. Triumphs answer to voltage regulators was a 'honkin-big' zener diode that used the frame as a heat sink. Clay L. '67 Sprite -- "WFO Herb" wrote: Not much to burn out on my '64. Only head and tail lights. Like I said, no problems in all the years I've had the unit. Herb On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM, David Lieb wrote: > What kind of battery eliminator was it? I thought those bikes were >> magneto >> systems like my 64 BMW. I can run it just fine with no battery. The old >> Tiger I had when in high school (don't ask when) was a magneto bike too. >> It >> ran just fine with no battery. >> > > I was under the impression that running them with no battery tended to > allow the voltage to fluctuate madly and burn stuff out for you? > David Lieb > 1972 1960 1974 1973 _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as froggi60 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Start a Web Site! Hosting for only $3.95/mo. Free setup! http://offers.juno.com/TGL1141/?u=http://www.freeservers.com From hal at katemuir.com Mon Jan 12 19:34:49 2009 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:34:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment In-Reply-To: <20090112.175110.1278.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: Musta been towing a pretty good sized trailer to carry a capacitor that large! LOL Hal -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 70 Tiger - Brit Bike Comment Back in the day... Battery eliminators were just big capacitors; kept the lights on for a minute or so at stop signs. Triumphs answer to voltage regulators was a 'honkin-big' zener diode that used the frame as a heat sink. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jan 12 21:30:19 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:30:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Poor mans intake porting References: <43840a7e0901111922s76b491f3wce17f795afdf397f@mail.gmail.com><8140BD36C4594613A58D880E4EA01AFC@ProRaceSupply> <43840a7e0901121532h285a135ax1fa087908921a158@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8DAFEEE6202B4EA4BE420A1180F96930@blackbox2> Believe it or not, Smokey Yunick did something sorta like that in order to weasle around the rules of Nascar. Poor kid might have read that on the internet somewhere and did not realize that it was to be done with the head off the engine. Just Google -> Smokey Yunick sand slurry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Subject: [Spridgets] Poor mans intake porting > http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jan 12 22:54:12 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 00:54:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Old age and treachery vs. youth and skill. Message-ID: <496AB162EF24457288D41AD4EBE10600@blackbox2> Sorry in advanced if this has been posted previously... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4QvWxw_TNo&NR=1 From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jan 13 06:48:05 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:48:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A. update Message-ID: <41247326.20090113054805@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, I called Paul A. last night and had quite a good chat. He's back at home and "living independently" using his own words. I asked if that meant cooking and cleaning and we laughed about that. (It's kinda like Fibber McGhee's Closet) Anyway I asked him if he was back up and running Morris Service and he said YES. He doesn't have quite the stamina he used to and gets tired rather easily, but talked to his oncologist and internist a couple of days ago and they are both extremely pleased with his progress. He still doesn't have web access. AT&T doesn't have any technicians that he can get hold of thru any means and plans to re-install everything soon. he thinks about about a week till that's going.. Can only imagine his e-mail box after having let it sit for this long, just from 'the list' messages, let alone personal and customer stuff.. Anyway, he sounds happy and healthy and like his (dare I say it?) OLD self... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "I love hot dogs," said Tom with relish. From pilotrob at msn.com Tue Jan 13 07:30:27 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:30:27 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Poor mans intake porting Message-ID: Gotta be a joke. CapBob -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:32 PM To: Spridget List, Midget/Sprite, bugeye Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Poor mans intake porting http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267 Definitely worth the read. Cheers!! Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From grday at btinternet.com Tue Jan 13 08:04:15 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:04:15 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Poor mans intake porting References: Message-ID: <48B95ADD7C6C4FB79D96622BB4E54F3B@dell330> Capt.... Not only do you manage to get the manifolds and ports sorted but - if you put it in the pumpkins and gearbox it will smooth the insides of those as well. Good heavens Robert, are you still using engineering techniques from the 1900's? Other things the post mentions is that if you pull the engine out and fire it up whilst it is on end (I presume the flywheel end for our motors) it will help to get the rest of the unused sand out and if you've topped the oil up with miscable water that will flow out as well. Thus saving time and effort. Bear in mind most of us don't use turbos so there is no need to isolate that before you do it. The grease cam will be hard to get hold of so make sure you buy one before you do anything. A joke!! What on earth makes you think that????? Guy R Day ps Jim - nice one! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert E. Shlafer" To: ; "Spridget List" ; "Midget/Sprite" Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Poor mans intake porting > Gotta be a joke. > > CapBob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Johnson > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 6:32 PM > To: Spridget List, Midget/Sprite, bugeye > Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Poor mans intake porting > > http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267 > > Definitely worth the read. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jmj3351 at comcast.net Tue Jan 13 08:37:50 2009 From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Poor mans intake porting In-Reply-To: <8DAFEEE6202B4EA4BE420A1180F96930@blackbox2> Message-ID: <1165762444.1686251231861070149.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> My college room mate's father worked for Smokey down in Daytonna at the famous secret shop with the windows painted white. Smokey was the best cheat ever in racing. He was a genius. Rarely ever got caught. JMJ -- Green 1500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hedin" To: "Jim Johnson" , "Spridget List" Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:30:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Poor mans intake porting Believe it or not, B Smokey Yunick did something sorta like that in order to weasle around the rules of Nascar. B Poor kid might have read that on the internet somewhere and did not realize that it was to be done with the head off the engine. Just Google -> Smokey Yunick sand slurry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Subject: [Spridgets] Poor mans intake porting > http://www.audiforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80267 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Jan 13 12:16:20 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:16:20 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Briton to pilot flying car to Timbuktu Message-ID: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/01/13/skycar-expedition.html From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 12:45:11 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:45:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? Message-ID: <37dc82d40901131145p1119ab2fu2c6267eb31125d5b@mail.gmail.com> When the first small block Chevys came out the cars would often have a difficult time seating the rings. The dealers were told per a bulletin, to put a teaspoon of Bon-Ami (like Comet) into the carb while the engine is running, and this would seat the rings. I have heard this from retired Chevy mechanics who worked during that era. Sounds a bit unusual - but that might have been the way they approached things back during that time? Kirk 59BE From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 12:45:21 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:45:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? Message-ID: <37dc82d40901131145pd87f808w234b3ecf22720737@mail.gmail.com> When the first small block Chevys came out the cars would often have a difficult time seating the rings. The dealers were told per a bulletin, to put a teaspoon of Bon-Ami (like Comet) into the carb while the engine is running, and this would seat the rings. I have heard this from retired Chevy mechanics who worked during that era. Sounds a bit unusual - but that might have been the way they approached things back during that time? Kirk 59BE From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 13 13:33:04 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 12:33:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901131145p1119ab2fu2c6267eb31125d5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > a teaspoon of Bon-Ami 1/4 cup in the drums seated the brake shoes fast. From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jan 13 13:44:56 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:44:56 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? Message-ID: "When the first small block Chevy's came out......." My mechanic, in the biz for 50+ years confirms this. Something about chrome rings. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jan 13 13:48:44 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:48:44 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Paul A. update Message-ID: Well, he's sure got a few of my emails lined up waiting for him!! Glad to hear Paul is doing so well. Thanx for the update, Bill. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Jan 13 14:29:50 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:29:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901131145p1119ab2fu2c6267eb31125d5b@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901131145p1119ab2fu2c6267eb31125d5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think you were supposed to change the oil afterwards also. ...bill in oregon ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kirk Hargreaves Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 11:45 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? When the first small block Chevys came out the cars would often have a difficult time seating the rings. The dealers were told per a bulletin, to put a teaspoon of Bon-Ami (like Comet) into the carb while the engine is running, and this would seat the rings. I have heard this from retired Chevy mechanics who worked during that era. Sounds a bit unusual - but that might have been the way they approached things back during that time? Kirk 59BE _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 13 14:58:52 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:58:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > first small block Chevy's In 1955, Chevy was still experimenting with the "new" technologies, like pressure oiling, replaceable bearings, and open drive shafts. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 13 15:04:28 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:04:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I think you were supposed to change the oil afterwards also. ... And put a new roll of toilet paper in the filter canister....don't forget that one. I new several old Chevy guys who actually did that, and they told me I was just wasting my money on store-bought filters. From daredelvis at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 15:20:20 2009 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:20:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <531383560901131420w6b0152cdxc958f3ea5371c505@mail.gmail.com> There are special made toilet paper oil filter housings. A cool(?) period accessory. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > I think you were supposed to change the oil afterwards also. ... > And put a new roll of toilet paper in the filter canister....don't forget > that one. I new several old Chevy guys who actually did that, and they told > me I was just wasting my money on store-bought filters. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as daredelvis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Tue Jan 13 15:36:05 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:36:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Was" Bon-Ami in the carb?" now TP in filter can References: <37dc82d40901131145p1119ab2fu2c6267eb31125d5b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <50D28B1761E24C2EBEABCA1914C2AA2F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Don't disparage TP oil filters! My Borgward Isabella Combi had a tp oil filter and it had over 200K miles on it. Al-Can highway to Yucatan and back, the PO swore. Cheapest oil change I ever did and the extra "filter material" still had other uses! You had to strip off about a third of a fresh roll to fit it in, or remember to save a home roll when it got to the right size for the Borgward. From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 16:14:38 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:14:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Biker joke in light of the MC thread - No LBC Message-ID: A duded-up city rider walks into a seedy tavern in Sturgis, SD. He sits at the bar and notices a grizzled old biker with his arms folded, staring blankly at a full bowl of chili. After fifteen minutes of just sitting there staring at it, the newbie rider bravely asks the old biker, "If you ain't gonna eat that, mind if I do?" The old veteran of a thousand rides slowly turns his head toward the young pup and says, "Nah, you go ahead." Eagerly, the guy wearing the shiny new leather fashions reaches over and slides the bowl into his place and starts spooning it in with delight. He gets nearly down to the bottom of the bowl and notices a dead mouse in the chili. The sight was very shocking and he immediately barfed up the chili back into the bowl. The old biker quietly says, "Yep, that's as far as I got, too." -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 13 15:53:12 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:53:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? References: Message-ID: >> first small block Chevy's > In 1955, Chevy was still experimenting with the "new" technologies, like > pressure oiling, replaceable bearings, and open drive shafts. Heck, in 1955 the small block Chevy did not even have an oil filter. By 1956 they figured out that they needed one. David Lieb From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jan 13 19:50:42 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:50:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Was" Bon-Ami in the carb?" now TP in filter can In-Reply-To: <50D28B1761E24C2EBEABCA1914C2AA2F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <37dc82d40901131145p1119ab2fu2c6267eb31125d5b@mail.gmail.com> <50D28B1761E24C2EBEABCA1914C2AA2F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901131850y9656954qf791240650fce3b7@mail.gmail.com> Still being sold too. From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 13 21:31:52 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:31:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] F this... Message-ID: <889359.20481.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ...I'm outta here. They have just revised our weather forecast in Roscoe, IL to a low of -22F on Friday. In a rare display of good timing, I'm going to Florida on Thursday night with my kids for 3 days. My mom lives on the ocean down there with my oft-mentioned 1970 Midget, and she called today to say she'd dusted it off and AAA had come buy and put air in the tires for a Friday AM ride with Bobby along A1A, the Atlantic and the Indian River. I happen to have had a part in the design of the anti-ice system of the aircraft we're flying down on, so it'll be gut-check time on Thursday night. Ron From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 02:48:51 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 04:48:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was" Bon-Ami in the carb?" now TP in filter can In-Reply-To: <50D28B1761E24C2EBEABCA1914C2AA2F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <37dc82d40901131145p1119ab2fu2c6267eb31125d5b@mail.gmail.com> <50D28B1761E24C2EBEABCA1914C2AA2F@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <205cef430901140148s48d2d2ev335e6caf84ecf2b5@mail.gmail.com> Glen, I never heard of the Borgward Isabella Combi but lookd online for pics and it is pretty cool. Who made it and do you have the wagon of sedan? Lin http://flickr.com/photos/39839593 at N00/161198978 On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > Don't disparage TP oil filters! My Borgward Isabella Combi had a tp oil > filter and it had over 200K miles on it. Al-Can highway to Yucatan and > back, the PO swore. Cheapest oil change I ever did and the extra "filter > material" still had other uses! You had to strip off about a third of a > fresh roll to fit it in, or remember to save a home roll when it got to the > right size for the Borgward. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 03:18:30 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:18:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bon-Ami in the carb? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430901140218p7b8c7e43vb5607d0ef36cb88f@mail.gmail.com> Wow guys this stuff is so interesting I'd like to hear more about experimenting auto designer stuff. Lin On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:53 PM, David Lieb wrote: > first small block Chevy's >>> >> In 1955, Chevy was still experimenting with the "new" technologies, like >> pressure oiling, replaceable bearings, and open drive shafts. >> > > Heck, in 1955 the small block Chevy did not even have an oil filter. By > 1956 they figured out that they needed one. > David Lieb > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 03:27:15 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 05:27:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Results at Barrett Jackson 1-13-09 Message-ID: <205cef430901140227i3ec860cds972131ab1f320aee@mail.gmail.com> Nice results at Barrett Jackson last night. 1960 Bugeye 20.9K 1959 Nash Metropolitan 33K 1957 BMW Isetta 45.1K From Miniac7 at aol.com Wed Jan 14 05:32:46 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:32:46 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Results at Barrett Jackson 1-13-09 Message-ID: I missed it last night. Are any of you familiar with either the Bugeye that was sold, or with the seller? Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 07:19:46 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 06:19:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Top 25 snubs Message-ID: <962147.15566.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I gotta agree with #16. Let's start a write in. http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/listoftheday/116928/the-25-most-deserving-non-inductees-of-the-rock-n-roll-hall-of-fame/ or http://tinyurl.com/6ujvn3 Ron From tinydog at snet.net Wed Jan 14 07:47:58 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:47:58 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Top 25 snubs In-Reply-To: <962147.15566.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <011420091447.18110.496DFB1D000E5D2F000046BE22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sang: Controversial list. Personally, I go right to #1 and the Captain (Beefheart not blowhard). Anyone who has boogied to Ice Cream For Crow would have to give Mr. Van Vliet the nod. Party-on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSeSQI16ZE0 -------------- Original message from Ron Soave : -------------- > I gotta agree with #16. Let's start a write in. > http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/listoftheday/116928/the-25-most-deserving-non-i > nductees-of-the-rock-n-roll-hall-of-fame/ > > or > > http://tinyurl.com/6ujvn3 From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Jan 14 09:35:50 2009 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:35:50 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] bon ami and TP oil filters for 1955 chev.? Message-ID: <13162107.1231950950509.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> yes! i have the 1955 chevrolet service bulliten that states this. bon ami was to seat rings (also GM's factory rec. windshiend scratch remover! i posess a factory container !) in the early 265 V8. the motor was also plagued with bad lifters wich frequently colapsed. none of the chrvrolet line had oil filters up to 1955. the 216 and later 235 6cyl's were offered an ooptional canister oil filter wich clamped onto the forward portion of the intake manifold using the AC P115 filter. i have a 265 V8 AC oil filter assembly as well as one AC 235 6cyl one as well as one purolater assembly. if memory served me right the wix assembly used the toilet paper roll. as for pressure oiling it was standard on the 216's and was well developed by the introduction of the 265 motor. the 265 was chevrolet's first try with a V8 design after the illfated end of the V8 production in 1917. chevrolet's stove bolt 6's were the standard of their power along with 4 cyls.. by 1956 the 265 V8 was well sorted. now onto other interesting "fixes" of the era? how about putting rice (uncooked, dry white rice) or pouring about 1 cup of water down the carb with motor running (at varied rpm's) to decarbon an engine? both work with varied sucess! another fun fact about the era's air filters: in the 55 chevies line the desert air filter for the 6cyl was an oil bath type but the rest of production got a wire mesh filter wich was to be washed and oiled so the oil would catch the passing dirt particles , yet the V8 recieved an oil bath filter for both the 2BL (standard motor with single exhaust) and the 4BBL (optional "power pack" with dual exhaust)versions. did i mention i own 2 '55 chevies and owned a '56 as well (that one's gone). chuck. "been there ..broke that...fixed it & broke it again....." after 35 years..still own the same darn bugeye..... From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 09:49:13 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 08:49:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Top 25 snubs In-Reply-To: <011420091447.18110.496DFB1D000E5D2F000046BE22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <36732.31088.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Controversial list. Not if being an LBC owner is a criterion (and it damn well should be). Zoom, zooom.... Ron From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 09:53:42 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:53:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] bon ami and TP oil filters for 1955 chev.? In-Reply-To: <13162107.1231950950509.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <13162107.1231950950509.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: I have poured water down the carb of a running engine to break up carbon deposits. You gotta rev the piss out of it to keep it running, but it does help. Makes those clunkers you bought off of grandma run MUCH better. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:35 AM, charles christ wrote: > yes! i have the 1955 chevrolet service bulliten that states this. bon > ami was to seat rings (also GM's factory rec. windshiend scratch remover! i > posess a factory container !) in the early 265 V8. the motor was also > plagued with bad lifters wich frequently colapsed. none of the chrvrolet > line had oil filters up to 1955. the 216 and later 235 6cyl's were offered > an ooptional canister oil filter wich clamped onto the forward portion of > the intake manifold using the AC P115 filter. i have a 265 V8 AC oil filter > assembly as well as one AC 235 6cyl one as well as one purolater assembly. > if memory served me right the wix assembly used the toilet paper roll. > as for pressure oiling it was standard on the 216's and was well developed > by the introduction of the 265 motor. the 265 was chevrolet's first try > with a V8 design after the illfated end of the V8 production in 1917. > chevrolet's stove bolt 6's were the standard of their power along with 4 > cyls.. > by 1956 the 265 V8 was well sorted. > now onto other interesting "fixes" of the era? how about putting rice > (uncooked, dry white rice) or pouring about 1 cup of water down the carb > with motor running (at varied rpm's) to decarbon an engine? both work with > varied sucess! > another fun fact about the era's air filters: in the 55 chevies line the > desert air filter for the 6cyl was an oil bath type but the rest of > production got a wire mesh filter wich was to be washed and oiled so the oil > would catch the passing dirt particles , yet the V8 recieved an oil bath > filter for both the 2BL (standard motor with single exhaust) and the 4BBL > (optional "power pack" with dual exhaust)versions. > did i mention i own 2 '55 chevies and owned a '56 as well (that one's > gone). > > chuck. > "been there ..broke that...fixed it & broke it again....." > after 35 years..still own the same darn bugeye..... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Jan 14 10:04:47 2009 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:04:47 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Top 25 snubs Message-ID: <14650664.1231952687030.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> ron, while away in sunny florida , please look north (yes due north!) and try to blow a tiny bit of that warmer air northward...please? my space heater is really getting it's tush kicked by this cold that has arived and the really cold stuff is not here yet......arrrggghhh! oops! i meant brrrrrrrrr! chuck. BTW? i "buzzed" kevin's place a week ago and not one complaint of a loud 2 stroke car going past ...TWICE! LOL! darn old homes must have really thick walls..... ;) -----Original Message----- >From: Ron Soave >Sent: Jan 14, 2009 11:49 AM >To: Spridgets , tinydog at snet.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Top 25 snubs > >> Controversial list. > >Not if being an LBC owner is a criterion (and it damn well should be). Zoom, zooom.... > >Ron From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jan 14 10:06:24 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:06:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] bon ami and TP oil filters for 1955 chev.? In-Reply-To: References: <13162107.1231950950509.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, Message-ID: <496DAB10.29351.21058C@kk7ss.verizon.net> I have done this on LBC's, Brit bikes and L-6 Jags... A word of advice to the choir ???? Use distilled water.... Water from the city supply is sometimes 'hard' (has high alcium content) and can leave a yellowish hard deposit on you pistons and exhaust valves... BTDT !! On 14 Jan 2009 at 10:53, Brad Fornal wrote: >> I have poured water down the carb of a running engine to break up >> carbon deposits. You gotta rev the piss out of it to keep it running, >> but it does help. Makes those clunkers you bought off of grandma run >> MUCH better. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Jan 14 10:15:11 2009 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:15:11 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] bon ami and TP oil filters for 1955 chev.? Message-ID: <30323349.1231953311378.JavaMail.root@mswamui-valley.atl.sa.earthlink.net> likewise waters of the southwest united states as they tend to be rather alkiline. do not ask why i know that........ chuck. it's getting colder here.......and possible precipitation this evening.... drat! more cold weather and snow! drat! (man am i making typing mistakes! ever sine the "summit point fan blade incident" my right hand fingers just do not have the same feeling they once did.....) ED? LOOK i used cap. letters! *VBG!* -----Original Message----- >From: "Dave G." >Sent: Jan 14, 2009 12:06 PM >To: Spridgets >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] bon ami and TP oil filters for 1955 chev.? > >I have done this on LBC's, Brit bikes and L-6 Jags... >A word of advice to the choir ???? >Use distilled water.... >Water from the city supply is sometimes 'hard' (has high alcium >content) and can leave a yellowish hard deposit on you pistons and >exhaust valves... > >BTDT !! > >On 14 Jan 2009 at 10:53, Brad Fornal wrote: > >>> I have poured water down the carb of a running engine to break up >>> carbon deposits. You gotta rev the piss out of it to keep it running, >>> but it does help. Makes those clunkers you bought off of grandma run >>> MUCH better. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 11:26:06 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:26:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Top 25 snubs In-Reply-To: <011420091447.18110.496DFB1D000E5D2F000046BE22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <962147.15566.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <011420091447.18110.496DFB1D000E5D2F000046BE22218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: Definitely music to chase your tail to... On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:47 AM, wrote: > tinydog sang: > > Controversial list. > > Personally, I go right to #1 and the Captain (Beefheart not blowhard). > Anyone who has boogied to Ice Cream For Crow would have to give Mr. Van > Vliet the nod. > > Party-on > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSeSQI16ZE0 > > -------------- Original message from Ron Soave : > -------------- > > > > I gotta agree with #16. Let's start a write in. > > > http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/listoftheday/116928/the-25-most-deserving-non-i > > nductees-of-the-rock-n-roll-hall-of-fame/ > > > > or > > > > http://tinyurl.com/6ujvn3 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jan 14 12:53:19 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:53:19 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] bon ami and TP oil filters for 1955 chev.? Message-ID: I've done "steam cleaning" of combustion chambers every Spring for years using distilled water sprayed from an old Windex bottle. Distilled in the bat and cooling system as well. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 14 12:57:50 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:57:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] F this... References: <889359.20481.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: [Spridgets] F this... ...I'm outta here. They have just revised our weather forecast in Roscoe, IL to a low of -22F on Friday. In a rare display of good timing, I'm going to Florida on Thursday night with my kids for 3 days. My mom lives on the ocean down there with my oft-mentioned 1970 Midget, and she called today to say she'd dusted it off and AAA had come buy and put air in the tires for a Friday AM ride with Bobby along A1A, the Atlantic and the Indian River. I happen to have had a part in the design of the anti-ice system of the aircraft we're flying down on, so it'll be gut-check time on Thursday night. Ron _______________________________________________ My wife's timing is even better. She is in Las Vegas all week for a business trip. She called this morning to let me know it is supposed to be 65F today. Our high tomorrow is supposed to be -4F. She thinks that's funny. To think that, but for a moment of Red Stripe inspired weakness on a Jamaican beach, I could still be enjoying the single life. LAD From pilotrob at webtv.net Wed Jan 14 13:00:02 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:00:02 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] F this... Message-ID: LOL...probably too cold for structual ice. Ron!! :) Enjoy your FL vacation...good timing is right. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Wed Jan 14 13:27:39 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:27:39 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] F this... In-Reply-To: References: <889359.20481.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: To think that, but for a moment of Red Stripe inspired weakness on a Jamaican beach, I could still be enjoying the single life. Actually, you could still be single... It just depends on how much you like having all of your stuff as opposed to only having half of it! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jan 14 13:48:06 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:48:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] F this... In-Reply-To: References: <889359.20481.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <881A979F-76E6-46C6-B6E0-DE794CB4392E@comcast.net> ... and being *able* to live in a house on the beach and being *forced* to live in a shack on the beach... Lester .. one wife 25 years.. On Jan 14, 2009, at 2:27 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Larry Daniels >wrote: > > To think that, but for a moment of Red Stripe inspired weakness on a > Jamaican beach, I could still be enjoying the single life. > Actually, you could still be single... It just depends on how much > you like > having all of your stuff as opposed to only having half of it! > > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 14 14:02:06 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:02:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Was" Bon-Ami in the carb?" now TP in filter can In-Reply-To: <205cef430901140148s48d2d2ev335e6caf84ecf2b5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <262092.96271.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Linda - Borgward was the manufacturer - a German company. They made quite a few models over the years, but the Isabella is the only one I really remember. I think they started producing the Isabella soon after rebuilding from WWII (the factories were pretty much destroyed by Allied bombers). Seems like they were built up through '59 or '60. I could be wrong here, so anybody with a better memory or knowledge step up and straighten me out. The photo you included of the combi (wagon) version is actually way cooler than the other body styles to me. I never really cared all that much for the coupe/sedan's styling. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 14 19:17:34 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:17:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Midget Club USA 2010 Calendar Message-ID: <6454DE41BA7A4981B28FAF37C56EE515@midget> Wouldn't you love to create a page featuring your club or favorite Spridget activity for the 2010 calendar? Yes, I fully expect to assemble a 2010 calendar to generate a few more funds for SCuM50, Midget 50th Anniversary -- A Spridget Celebration, or whatever you want to call the USA Spridget gathering in 2011. For that matter, I don't know that I will ever get out from under under this as long as we keep having more years coming at us. Rather than continue to selfishly do all the work myself, I thought I could share the fun with others. In the 2009 calendar, the February page was generated by Bruce Hamper (thanks Bruce!). Would you like to create a page for the 2010 calendar? I will pay you the same as I get paid for the whole calendar (nothing), but the undying glory (at least for a month) will be yours. As you may have noticed (if not, wander over to http://tinyurl.com/9jcbyk to look at pages of the 2009 calendar), I do NOT do one artsy shot of a car per month... too many Spridgets, not enough months. The artwork to be submitted to Cafepress needs to be in the form of a single 8.5" x 11" landscape jpg file at 300dpi and another similar 300dpi jpg at 11" x 17". I use MS Publisher 2003 for this, saving the page as a jpg file. Other publishing programs can do this as well. Or, you can make a word doc or a pdf, send it to me along with the photos and I will take it from there. A few more rules. No narcissism here. If your page is all about your Spridget, it had better be a darned nice dirty Spridget. I would also like people in the photos and some text with a few details about the cars, people, and/or place or event. And, of course, your name. With a few possible exceptions, the photos should be this year. David Lieb it worked for Tom Sawyer... From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Jan 14 19:26:20 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:26:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Midget Club USA 2010 Calendar In-Reply-To: <6454DE41BA7A4981B28FAF37C56EE515@midget> References: <6454DE41BA7A4981B28FAF37C56EE515@midget> Message-ID: <004201c976b8$a7aa36a0$f6fea3e0$@net> Cool blank page...no image but the words of the months are there:) Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:18 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Midget Club USA 2010 Calendar Wouldn't you love to create a page featuring your club or favorite Spridget activity for the 2010 calendar? Yes, I fully expect to assemble a 2010 calendar to generate a few more funds for SCuM50, Midget 50th Anniversary -- A Spridget Celebration, or whatever you want to call the USA Spridget gathering in 2011. For that matter, I don't know that I will ever get out from under under this as long as we keep having more years coming at us. Rather than continue to selfishly do all the work myself, I thought I could share the fun with others. In the 2009 calendar, the February page was generated by Bruce Hamper (thanks Bruce!). Would you like to create a page for the 2010 calendar? I will pay you the same as I get paid for the whole calendar (nothing), but the undying glory (at least for a month) will be yours. As you may have noticed (if not, wander over to http://tinyurl.com/9jcbyk to look at pages of the 2009 calendar), I do NOT do one artsy shot of a car per month... too many Spridgets, not enough months. The artwork to be submitted to Cafepress needs to be in the form of a single 8.5" x 11" landscape jpg file at 300dpi and another similar 300dpi jpg at 11" x 17". I use MS Publisher 2003 for this, saving the page as a jpg file. Other publishing programs can do this as well. Or, you can make a word doc or a pdf, send it to me along with the photos and I will take it from there. A few more rules. No narcissism here. If your page is all about your Spridget, it had better be a darned nice dirty Spridget. I would also like people in the photos and some text with a few details about the cars, people, and/or place or event. And, of course, your name. With a few possible exceptions, the photos should be this year. David Lieb it worked for Tom Sawyer... You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1893 - Release Date: 1/14/2009 6:59 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1893 - Release Date: 1/14/2009 6:59 AM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 14 19:33:10 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:33:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Midget Club USA 2010 Calendar References: <6454DE41BA7A4981B28FAF37C56EE515@midget> <1233220272.20090114182807@pacifier.com> Message-ID: > Does this mean that your earlier post is invalid? I had plans of > WHERE to get MY picture taken!!!! Of course not. Do you seriously think I will get twelve people to waste that kind of time when they could be spouting off about guns, beer, Frank Zapp (on Moon Unit), etc??? Right! David From haynes386 at netzero.net Thu Jan 15 08:13:50 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:13:50 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question Message-ID: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> My '58 (HAN5L8017)gives me a bit of a quandry when it comes to the interior's color. The car was originally (I think) OEW-At least that's what is on the tranny tunnel between the seats. The interior panels are red, including the dash and trim strip above the dash. The seats are black with red piping. My gut feeling is that this was the original setup, however all of the OEW cars that I've seen pictures of have red seats and interiors. It's currently painted in peeling red and I'd like to strip and repaint it Colorado red to go with the '62 (original color for that car). Would this paint/interior combo look weird? Does anyone care? Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Fashion Design Education - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/PnY6rc2z6jsXQdSfttyCuW17neR6S1 7r6sWxIb3DGyjTfeAJeJfuk/ From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jan 15 08:50:48 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:50:48 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <011520091550.26614.496F5B580000FEDC000067F622216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog advised: Many WOULD care, but it's YOUR car. -------------- Original message from "Mark Haynes" : -------------- Would this paint/interior combo look weird? Does anyone care? From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jan 15 10:01:23 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:01:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc brake conversion Message-ID: I read somewhere that the entire front suspension below the shocks must be replaced in a drum-to-disc conversion for a BE. Yet the catalogue shows many of the parts to be the same, and some parts (e.g. coil springs) that are not the same, even though it would seem a priori that they might be. What are your thoughts on what can go right or wrong with this conversion? I have a complete spare '70 front end to work with (assuming I can get the @#$% thing apart). Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jan 15 10:25:26 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:25:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc brake conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200901150925974.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Michael, The minimum parts required are: 1. Spindle or swivel axle, as it has the caliper attachment bolt holes that the BE spindle doesn't have. 2. Kingpin, as it is a different diameter to fit the spindle 3. The caliper and all its attachments 4. Hub and brake rotor. But, this gives you an opportunity to use the best a-frame and lower trunion pin between the early and late. The A-frame might or will have provision for a sway bar that you might want. You might want to use the newer springs if your BE ones are fading. Given the difficulties associated with removing the lower trunion pin, the most expeditious method is often to just swap out the Aframe with kingpin and spindle attached. There is less disassembly involved. You don't even need to remove the hubs or anything. Do check for play in wheel bearings first, and also in the king pin and trunion. Leave the steering arms attached to the spindle, and undo the connection at the tierod end. You also need to move the steel brake line a little. Peter C ---- At 11:01 AM 1/15/2009, Michael Rowe wrote: >I read somewhere that the entire front suspension below the shocks >must be replaced in a drum-to-disc conversion for a BE. Yet the >catalogue shows many of the parts to be the same, and some parts >(e.g. coil springs) that are not the same, even though it would seem >a priori that they might be. What are your thoughts on what can go >right or wrong with this conversion? I have a complete spare '70 >front end to work with (assuming I can get the @#$% thing apart). > >Michael Rowe >'74 Midget >Long Island, NY From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 15 10:36:57 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:36:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <873052.4475.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Mark Haynes wrote: "Would this paint/interior combo look weird? Does anyone care?" Here's what I think on the subject... Any car I own only has to be cool to me. If you want to paint it, stripe it, lower it, roll-bar it, add horsepower, upgrade the brakes, etc. you should feel comfotable in going for it. Heck - if you want to put in a V8, jack it up and add 4WD, go for that too. It's not what I would do, but you have my blessings to do it and I'll be sure to check it out at whatever show I see you at... Basically, unless you are building it with the idea of turning it for a profit, I wouldn't care what anybody else thought about color combinations and originality. The original owners of our cars probably began altering / upgrading as soon as they got home from the dealer. If you think it's cool, do it. If on the other hand, you're just asking for feedback and a general consensus - make a digital image of your or another interior and then play with the colors on the computer. That and looking at lots of examples is how I decided on a stripe theme... David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From nases at verizon.net Thu Jan 15 10:27:16 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:27:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> References: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <7D7AD25C-93F9-40FB-A4EC-E39F62483A50@verizon.net> Mark, From what I've read the seats would have matched the other interior trim in color and had white piping. The paint color is personal if you don't care about originality. You may want to put the two reds next to each other to see if you like it. Or also see if you can match new vinyl to the new paint if you think you will need to redo the interior in the future. IMHO if all the Spridgets were factory paint/interior colors it would be a boring world. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jan 15, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > My '58 (HAN5L8017)gives me a bit of a quandry when it comes to the > interior's > color. The car was originally (I think) OEW-At least that's what is > on the > tranny tunnel between the seats. The interior panels are red, > including the > dash and trim strip above the dash. The seats are black with red > piping. > My gut feeling is that this was the original setup, however all of > the OEW > cars that I've seen pictures of have red seats and interiors. It's > currently > painted in peeling red and I'd like to strip and repaint it Colorado > red to go > with the '62 (original color for that car). Would this paint/ > interior combo > look weird? Does anyone care? > > > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Jan 15 10:48:31 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:48:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> References: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <0BE76934-3653-4538-8599-E14F355CCB68@mac.com> Mark, AN5's in OEW had either all red or all black interiors with white piping. Colorado Red is a big Healey color and I do not know what interiors were used with this color. Signal Red was the Sprite Mk II red and used a black interior with red piping. BUT it is what you like that counts. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 15, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > My '58 (HAN5L8017)gives me a bit of a quandry when it comes to the > interior's > color. The car was originally (I think) OEW-At least that's what is > on the > tranny tunnel between the seats. The interior panels are red, > including the > dash and trim strip above the dash. The seats are black with red > piping. > My gut feeling is that this was the original setup, however all of > the OEW > cars that I've seen pictures of have red seats and interiors. It's > currently > painted in peeling red and I'd like to strip and repaint it > Colorado red to go > with the '62 (original color for that car). Would this paint/ > interior combo > look weird? Does anyone care? > > > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Fashion Design Education - Click Here! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/ > PnY6rc2z6jsXQdSfttyCuW17neR6S1 > 7r6sWxIb3DGyjTfeAJeJfuk/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jan 15 11:02:52 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:02:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <0BE76934-3653-4538-8599-E14F355CCB68@mac.com> References: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> <0BE76934-3653-4538-8599-E14F355CCB68@mac.com> Message-ID: <496F7A4C.4020501@frontiernet.net> One of the neat advantages to owning one of these great little cars is the relative ease and inexpensiveness of customizing them to suit individual taste. Unless you plan a concours restoration, go with whatever pleases you. One of the things that I enjoy most about Spridget gatherings is seeing how each individual has made their car their own. Kate > > > > > On Jan 15, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > > >> My '58 (HAN5L8017)gives me a bit of a quandry when it comes to the >> interior's >> color. The car was originally (I think) OEW-At least that's what is >> on the >> tranny tunnel between the seats. The interior panels are red, >> including the >> dash and trim strip above the dash. The seats are black with red >> piping. >> My gut feeling is that this was the original setup, however all of >> the OEW >> cars that I've seen pictures of have red seats and interiors. It's >> currently >> painted in peeling red and I'd like to strip and repaint it >> Colorado red to go >> with the '62 (original color for that car). Would this paint/ >> interior combo >> look weird? Does anyone care? >> >> >> Mark Haynes >> HAN6L12779 >> HAN5L8016 >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Fashion Design Education - Click Here! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/ >> PnY6rc2z6jsXQdSfttyCuW17neR6S1 >> 7r6sWxIb3DGyjTfeAJeJfuk/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1882 - Release Date: 1/8/2009 8:13 AM From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jan 15 11:27:40 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:27:40 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <7D7AD25C-93F9-40FB-A4EC-E39F62483A50@verizon.net> References: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> <7D7AD25C-93F9-40FB-A4EC-E39F62483A50@verizon.net> Message-ID: <011520091827.17157.496F801C000986DD0000430522218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog responded: Not if the more owners used the other factory colors rather than primarily just red and white. Leaf Green, Dark Green, Speedwell Blue, Iris Blue, Primrose - the forgotten colors -------------- Original message from Phil Nase : -------------- > IMHO if all the Spridgets were factory paint/interior colors it would be a boring world. From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jan 15 12:18:19 2009 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:18:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <011520091827.17157.496F801C000986DD0000430522218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: You don't want to include Deep Pink? Hal -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question tinydog responded: Not if the more owners used the other factory colors rather than primarily just red and white. Leaf Green, Dark Green, Speedwell Blue, Iris Blue, Primrose - the forgotten colors -------------- Original message from Phil Nase : -------------- From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 15 13:06:40 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:06:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question References: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com><7D7AD25C-93F9-40FB-A4EC-E39F62483A50@verizon.net> <011520091827.17157.496F801C000986DD0000430522218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <2E4667269ADA40FAB76F5B2F34B8B66A@NilesAD.von.gov> > Not if the more owners used the other factory colors rather than primarily > just red and white. > > Leaf Green, Dark Green, Speedwell Blue, Iris Blue, Primrose - the > forgotten colors Hmm, I seem to recall a statement from John Sprinzel in "Spritely Years" to the effect that the Speedwell Blue (no relation to his Speedwell tuning company) was the ONLY decent colour the factory ever used on the Bugeye . ;-) David Lieb No, my Bugeye is NOT blue. From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jan 15 13:31:37 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:31:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: References: <011520091827.17157.496F801C000986DD0000430522218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <011520092031.11113.496F9D290003AEAD00002B6922230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: I am barking about original colors that were overlooked. -------------- Original message from "Hal Faulkner" : -------------- > You don't want to include Deep Pink? > Hal > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question > > tinydog responded: > > Not if the more owners used the other factory colors rather than primarily > just red and white. > > Leaf Green, Dark Green, Speedwell Blue, Iris Blue, Primrose - the forgotten > colors > > -------------- Original message from Phil Nase > : -------------- From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 13:48:03 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:48:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> References: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901151248w8b00612j833a3e5655cf5324@mail.gmail.com> Hi Mark, Make everything perfect according to the Concours book. If you don't the Spridget Gods will revoke your birth certificate, truncate your trousers, tangle your shoe laces and the hangers in your closets, explode your lawn mower engine, let air out of all your tyres, make you spell "color" as "colour", pee in your Post Toasties, drag the river for your body, and give your dog fleas and ear mites. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > My '58 (HAN5L8017)gives me a bit of a quandry when it comes to the > interior's > color. The car was originally (I think) OEW-At least that's what is on the > tranny tunnel between the seats. The interior panels are red, including the > dash and trim strip above the dash. The seats are black with red piping. > My gut feeling is that this was the original setup, however all of the OEW > cars that I've seen pictures of have red seats and interiors. It's > currently > painted in peeling red and I'd like to strip and repaint it Colorado red to > go > with the '62 (original color for that car). Would this paint/interior combo > look weird? Does anyone care? > > > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 > > _ From hal at katemuir.com Thu Jan 15 14:41:06 2009 From: hal at katemuir.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:41:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <011520092031.11113.496F9D290003AEAD00002B6922230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: I thought deep pink was an original color, at least for some spridgets. Hal -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question tinydog sez: I am barking about original colors that were overlooked. -------------- Original message from "Hal Faulkner" : -------------- > You don't want to include Deep Pink? > Hal > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question > > tinydog responded: > > Not if the more owners used the other factory colors rather than primarily > just red and white. > > Leaf Green, Dark Green, Speedwell Blue, Iris Blue, Primrose - the forgotten > colors From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jan 15 14:59:43 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:59:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: References: <011520092031.11113.496F9D290003AEAD00002B6922230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <011520092159.8129.496FB1CF0004407800001FC122218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog pondered: I don't think it was a Bugeye color, or a Frogeye color for that matter. Maybe it was used if you had a black-eye, or a red-eye. bye bye -------------- Original message from "Hal Faulkner" : -------------- > I thought deep pink was an original color, at least for some spridgets. > > Hal > > -----Original Message----- > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question > > > tinydog sez: > > I am barking about original colors that were overlooked. > > -------------- Original message from "Hal Faulkner" > : -------------- > > > > You don't want to include Deep Pink? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 15 15:00:10 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:00:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question References: Message-ID: <4389F60C5FDE4BEFAB30A8595B1356BE@NilesAD.von.gov> >I thought deep pink was an original color, at least for some spridgets. Yes, but not for Bugeyes. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From biffjones at verizon.net Thu Jan 15 15:04:11 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:04:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question References: <011520092031.11113.496F9D290003AEAD00002B6922230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <011520092159.8129.496FB1CF0004407800001FC122218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <3BAA96C0CB774368B394A85ACE2B4708@dell1> Deep Pink was an early Mk-II Sprite colour. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:59 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question > tinydog pondered: > > I don't think it was a Bugeye color, or a Frogeye color for that matter. > Maybe it was used if you had a black-eye, or a red-eye. > > bye bye > > -------------- Original message from "Hal Faulkner" > : -------------- > > >> I thought deep pink was an original color, at least for some spridgets. >> >> Hal >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question >> >> >> tinydog sez: >> >> I am barking about original colors that were overlooked. >> >> -------------- Original message from "Hal Faulkner" >> : -------------- >> >> >> > You don't want to include Deep Pink? 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Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.7/1893 - Release Date: 1/14/2009 6:59 AM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 15 15:04:45 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:04:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question References: <011520092031.11113.496F9D290003AEAD00002B6922230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <011520092159.8129.496FB1CF0004407800001FC122218683269B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <22F6069D8F6B49CBAB4FC036F518BA55@NilesAD.von.gov> > tinydog pondered: > I don't think it was a Bugeye color, or a Frogeye color for that matter. > Maybe it was used if you had a black-eye, or a red-eye. > bye bye Hmm, I think we might have the makings of a canine poet on our hands... From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jan 15 15:19:37 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:19:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901151248w8b00612j833a3e5655cf5324@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> <43840a7e0901151248w8b00612j833a3e5655cf5324@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > If you don't the Spridget Gods will revoke your birth certificate, Worse yet, you will end up looking like Jim Johnson. Michael Rowe From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 15 15:28:14 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:28:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: References: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com> <43840a7e0901151248w8b00612j833a3e5655cf5324@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901151428n1e7518c7j9d0c2675ca31e83d@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Worse yet, you will end up looking like Jim Johnson. They should be so lucky! ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jan 15 19:25:18 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:25:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question References: <20090115.081350.22035.0@webmail17.dca.untd.com><7D7AD25C-93F9-40FB-A4EC-E39F62483A50@verizon.net><011520091827.17157.496F801C000986DD0000430522218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <2E4667269ADA40FAB76F5B2F34B8B66A@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: John re-iterated that at the Sprite Jubilee. I don't think it was so much as poor taste of the factory, it's just that from a chemistry point of view, I don't think there was a lot of choices back in '58 with oil alkyd enamels. They're just solid colors. However it still disappoints me that they never offered black as a factory color for Bugeyes. Except for that one car, of course. I always wondered what kind of interior that one factory black car had. It was probably black with white piping. but red with black piping would have been pretty awsome. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" > Hmm, I seem to recall a statement from John Sprinzel in "Spritely Years" to > the effect that the Speedwell Blue (no relation to his Speedwell tuning > company) was the ONLY decent colour the factory ever used on the Bugeye . From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 15 19:33:54 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:33:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc brake conversion In-Reply-To: <200901150925974.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <200901150925974.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <496FF212.4070008@comcast.net> Michael What Peter said and buy new rubber brake hoses, don't even think about using the ones from the 70 unless you can see a date code on the hose and it is 5 years old or less. Never ever use rubber brake hoses 10 years old or older. They all have a date of manufacture on them, if it has no date, it's PRE 1976 and will fail when you need it most during that panic stop. Also I have run across disc brake conversions on Bugeyes where the PO just put the disc spindles on the drum brake king pin. The top of the pin and the top hole in the spindle are the same and it looks like it works but the lower end of a disc brake king pin is much thicker, if you just drop the later spindle on a Bugeye king pin it will work but when (not if) it fails, it will be catastrophic. Similar to the failing of a 30 year old rubber brake hose ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 16 02:55:21 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:55:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I would SURE... Message-ID: like to know the REST of THIS story !!! >From my local paper!! ************************************ http://www.justbrits.com/z/tyre_1.jpg From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 16 06:05:31 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:05:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I would SURE... References: Message-ID: <2687E5D1A9C14609BB6C31966413B1B0@midget> > like to know the REST of THIS story !!! I dunno, ED, the old DKW Kandango "jeeps" were designed to be able to run on three wheels in the event of getting two flats. Somehow I doubt that he was driving one ;-) David Lieb From jlaird237 at cox.net Fri Jan 16 07:35:22 2009 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:35:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake shoes, LBC content Message-ID: <091BE72D1E0F48CAB5D00A30DDA02486@personal> Are rear brake shoes for 948, 1050, and 1275 rear all the same? ie interchangeable. From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 16 08:00:01 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:00:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake shoes, LBC content In-Reply-To: <091BE72D1E0F48CAB5D00A30DDA02486@personal> References: <091BE72D1E0F48CAB5D00A30DDA02486@personal> Message-ID: <200901160700325.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> The shoes are not. They change when the early single piston sliding cylinders as on Bugeyes went to the later 2 piston cylinders. The size is the same, and the drum is the same, but the brake lever and hold down holes change, as well as the bit at the cylinder end. Peter C == At 08:35 AM 1/16/2009, Jack Laird wrote: >Are rear brake shoes for 948, 1050, and 1275 rear all the same? ie >interchangeable. From JMFarley50 at aol.com Fri Jan 16 08:21:56 2009 From: JMFarley50 at aol.com (JMFarley50 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:21:56 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Disc brake conversion Message-ID: My Bugeye was converted to front disc brakes by a PO. How can I tell if the if the proper king pin was used? John In a message dated 1/15/2009 9:33:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: Michael What Peter said and buy new rubber brake hoses, don't even think about using the ones from the 70 unless you can see a date code on the hose and it is 5 years old or less. Never ever use rubber brake hoses 10 years old or older. They all have a date of manufacture on them, if it has no date, it's PRE 1976 and will fail when you need it most during that panic stop. Also I have run across disc brake conversions on Bugeyes where the PO just put the disc spindles on the drum brake king pin. The top of the pin and the top hole in the spindle are the same and it looks like it works but the lower end of a disc brake king pin is much thicker, if you just drop the later spindle on a Bugeye king pin it will work but when (not if) it fails, it will be catastrophic. Similar to the failing of a 30 year old rubber brake hose ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as jmfarley50 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003) From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 16 08:31:35 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:31:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Disc brake conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200901160731606.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> If you've driven the car for more than a 1000 miles and you aren't dead, it's probably OK. ;-) But, if you want to verify what Frank said, undo the top kingpin nut and lift the spindle up to feel if it is loose. The drum brake king pin's lower diameter is .687" and the disc brake one is .780" Peter C. == At 09:21 AM 1/16/2009, JMFarley50 at aol.com wrote: >My Bugeye was converted to front disc brakes by a PO. How can I >tell if the if the proper king pin was used? > >John > >In a message dated 1/15/2009 9:33:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >spritenut at comcast.net writes: >Michael > >What Peter said and buy new rubber brake hoses, don't even think about >using the ones from the 70 unless you can see a date code on the hose >and it is 5 years old or less. >Never ever use rubber brake hoses 10 years old or older. They all have a >date of manufacture on them, if it has no date, it's >PRE 1976 and will fail when you need it most during that panic stop. >Also I have run across disc brake conversions on Bugeyes where the PO >just put the disc spindles on the drum brake king pin. >The top of the pin and the top hole in the spindle are the same and it >looks like it works but the lower end of a disc brake king pin is much >thicker, if you just drop the later spindle on a Bugeye king pin it will >work but when (not if) it fails, it will be catastrophic. >Similar to the failing of a 30 year old rubber brake hose ;) > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as jmfarley50 at aol.com > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > >---------- >Inauguration '09: Get >complete >coverage from the nation's capital. > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1897 - Release Date: >1/16/2009 6:52 AM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 08:31:25 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:31:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Message-ID: I saw Bush's "good-bye" speech to the nation last night. Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is scheduled to air? ANON From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 16 08:37:20 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:37:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200901160737434.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 09:31 AM 1/16/2009, Larry Daniels wrote: >I saw Bush's "good-bye" speech to the nation last night. > >Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is scheduled >to air? > >ANON =============== I used to think he was a bumbling fool, but I think I over-misunderstimated him. ANDON From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 16 08:43:33 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:43:33 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior vs paint question In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901151248w8b00612j833a3e5655cf5324@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I think that you have the 'colour' part reversed ... :) Robert Canada ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Jim Johnson" Hi Mark, Make everything perfect according to the Concours book. If you don't the Spridget Gods will revoke your birth certificate, truncate your trousers, tangle your shoe laces and the hangers in your closets, explode your lawn mower engine, let air out of all your tyres, make you spell "color" as "colour", pee in your Post Toasties, drag the river for your body, and give your dog fleas and ear mites. ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > My '58 (HAN5L8017)gives me a bit of a quandry when it comes to the > interior's > color. The car was originally (I think) OEW-At least that's what is on the > tranny tunnel between the seats. The interior panels are red, including the > dash and trim strip above the dash. The seats are black with red piping. > My gut feeling is that this was the original setup, however all of the OEW > cars that I've seen pictures of have red seats and interiors. It's > currently > painted in peeling red and I'd like to strip and repaint it Colorado red to > go > with the '62 (original color for that car). Would this paint/interior combo > look weird? Does anyone care? > > > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jan 16 09:09:45 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:09:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is scheduled > to air? He's gone. You can stop trashing him now. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 09:10:38 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:10:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches References: Message-ID: <11D7091973904B108B8AF0D9D073F366@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > scheduled > to air? He's gone. You can stop trashing him now. ==================== Nope, 4 days to go. So much reason; so little time. From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jan 16 09:26:04 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 08:26:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] I would SURE... In-Reply-To: <2687E5D1A9C14609BB6C31966413B1B0@midget> References: , <2687E5D1A9C14609BB6C31966413B1B0@midget> Message-ID: <4970449C.28986.114E7D@kk7ss.verizon.net> Back in the 'late '50's, in Europe, the Citroen company would take a wheel off a DS-19 and take a few laps, at speed, around the race track to demonstrate it's stability... I also liked the DS-21 with it's steering coupled headlights....... Dave G. On 16 Jan 2009 at 7:05, David Lieb wrote: >> I dunno, ED, the old DKW Kandango "jeeps" were designed to be able to >> run on three wheels in the event of getting two flats. Somehow I doubt >> that he was driving one ;-) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 16 09:30:10 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:30:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I would SURE... References: , <2687E5D1A9C14609BB6C31966413B1B0@midget> <4970449C.28986.114E7D@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: > Back in the 'late '50's, in Europe, the Citroen company would take a > wheel off a DS-19 and take a few laps, at speed, around the race > track to demonstrate it's stability... > > I also liked the DS-21 with it's steering coupled headlights....... He probably wasn't driving a Citroen, either ;-) I have to agree with ED, enquiring minds WANT to know! From tinydog at snet.net Fri Jan 16 09:32:05 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:32:05 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] I would SURE... In-Reply-To: <4970449C.28986.114E7D@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: , <2687E5D1A9C14609BB6C31966413B1B0@midget> <4970449C.28986.114E7D@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <011620091632.10521.4970B685000200FC0000291922218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog yapped: And who can forget the Citroen SM ........... especially the one Burt Reynolds drove off the pier at the beginning of The Longest Yard? -------------- Original message from "Dave G." : -------------- > Back in the 'late '50's, in Europe, the Citroen company would take a > wheel off a DS-19 and take a few laps, at speed, around the race > track to demonstrate it's stability... > > I also liked the DS-21 with it's steering coupled headlights....... > > Dave G. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 10:25:08 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:25:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > scheduled > to air? It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... NOBAMA From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 16 10:28:04 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:28:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.co m> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200901160928778.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 11:25 AM 1/16/2009, Jim Johnson wrote: >On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > > scheduled > > to air? > > >It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... > >NOBAMA ===== Not a shock, Jim. A disappointment is all. NONBUSH From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 10:33:23 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:33:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7C885D35AB5D4DC194DADB93B632C82C@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets List" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > scheduled > to air? It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... NOBAMA _______________________________________________ I'll accept the 3/4 of the country and the even greater majority of the rest of the world that does agree and be saddened by and wonder about those who don't. I guess, when you care "enough" about your country, you have a major problem with those who cause it harm. From tinydog at snet.net Fri Jan 16 10:35:42 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:35:42 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: These times are great. They identify the "core". The 17%. NOWAY -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" : -------------- > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > > scheduled > > to air? > > > It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... > > NOBAMA From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 11:14:25 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (J Foster)) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:14:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0901161014l6328c932l7b72d426cd96683e@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels >wrote: > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > > scheduled > > to air? > > > It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... > > NOBAMA > > Don't forget the multitude that DO agree "good riddance" to Bush, yet ALSO agree with the NOBAMA sentiment. Do we _really_ have to have a President this time? Both "front runners" in this past election seem like the wrong choice and Congress has becoming pretty adept at screwing up our country in their own special way. We really need to clean house! From heard at datatrontech.net Fri Jan 16 11:28:49 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:28:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> <011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <077901c97808$46f0d6b0$1801010a@xp> Now you guys are going to have to get your facts straight here. Did BO win 83% of the vote or 75% as Larry states? I was remembering it at more like 52% or something in that range. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:36 PM Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches tinydog sez: These times are great. They identify the "core". The 17%. NOWAY -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" : -------------- > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > > scheduled to air? > > > It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... > > NOBAMA You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jan 16 12:02:15 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:02:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <077901c97808$46f0d6b0$1801010a@xp> References: , <011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>, <077901c97808$46f0d6b0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <49706937.9661.A04C1F@kk7ss.verizon.net> Youse gotta remember, 4 out of 3 people has trouble with fractions... On 16 Jan 2009 at 13:28, Heard wrote: >> Now you guys are going to have to get your facts straight here. Did >> BO win 83% of the vote or 75% as Larry states? I was remembering it >> at more like 52% or something in that range. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Jan 16 12:02:03 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:02:03 EST Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Message-ID: It may come as a BIGGER shock that I'm agreeing with Jim, well partly. In the UK Bush's final speech came across as being gracious, reflective and interesting. There are plenty of people in life who can't manage one let alone all 3 of those qualities. I think we've all heard the bitter goodbye speeches, the politicians who can't ever get over being rejected and dumped and so forth so in that respect Bush can hold his head high. Will Obama be any better? I think he'll find it's not as easy to change things as he thought and it's easiest to win an election than run a country. Weslake-Monza In a message dated 16/01/2009 17:25:21 GMT Standard Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > scheduled > to air? It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 12:21:36 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:21:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com><011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <077901c97808$46f0d6b0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <70903D6D6EC64294B17410458F62D49D@Larry> Heard, it's time you got your facts straight. I never said Obama got 75% of the vote. I said 75% of the country agreed with me by disapproving of Bush. Read the polls. More news; less cartoons. I never once mentioned anything about Obama -- good, bad or indifferent. Tinydog never mentioned Obama or his portion of the vote, either. Trouble with basic reading skills? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heard" To: "'Spridgets List'" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Now you guys are going to have to get your facts straight here. Did BO win 83% of the vote or 75% as Larry states? I was remembering it at more like 52% or something in that range. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:36 PM Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches tinydog sez: These times are great. They identify the "core". The 17%. NOWAY -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" : -------------- > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > > scheduled to air? > > > It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... > > NOBAMA You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tinydog at snet.net Fri Jan 16 12:29:27 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:29:27 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <70903D6D6EC64294B17410458F62D49D@Larry> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com><011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><077901c97808$46f0d6b0$1801010a@xp> <70903D6D6EC64294B17410458F62D49D@Larry> Message-ID: <011620091929.23673.4970E0170001C23300005C7922243651029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog dreams: ...that I will get selected so I can move from the dog house to the White House. NODRAMA -------------- Original message from "Larry Daniels" : -------------- > Tinydog never mentioned Obama or his portion of the vote, either. From heard at datatrontech.net Fri Jan 16 12:39:22 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:39:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <011620091929.23673.4970E0170001C23300005C7922243651029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com><011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><077901c97808$46f0d6b0$1801010a@xp><70903D6D6EC64294B17410458F62D49D@Larry> <011620091929.23673.4970E0170001C23300005C7922243651029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <078901c97812$22253ce0$1801010a@xp> Now that is funny... -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:29 PM To: 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches tinydog dreams: ...that I will get selected so I can move from the dog house to the White House. NODRAMA -------------- Original message from "Larry Daniels" : -------------- > Tinydog never mentioned Obama or his portion of the vote, either. You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From heard at datatrontech.net Fri Jan 16 12:40:46 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:40:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <70903D6D6EC64294B17410458F62D49D@Larry> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com><011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <077901c97808$46f0d6b0$1801010a@xp> <70903D6D6EC64294B17410458F62D49D@Larry> Message-ID: <078a01c97812$540e0840$1801010a@xp> Larry, Thanks for the compliment. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted what I thought was you gushing over BO. It does sound like you are getting really defensive though. Remember, you started this thread. Heard -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:22 PM To: Heard; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Heard, it's time you got your facts straight. I never said Obama got 75% of the vote. I said 75% of the country agreed with me by disapproving of Bush. Read the polls. More news; less cartoons. I never once mentioned anything about Obama -- good, bad or indifferent. Tinydog never mentioned Obama or his portion of the vote, either. Trouble with basic reading skills? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heard" To: "'Spridgets List'" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Now you guys are going to have to get your facts straight here. Did BO win 83% of the vote or 75% as Larry states? I was remembering it at more like 52% or something in that range. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:36 PM Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches tinydog sez: These times are great. They identify the "core". The 17%. NOWAY -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" : -------------- > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > > scheduled to air? > > > It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... > > NOBAMA You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 12:54:24 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:54:24 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] I would SURE... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Ed's Shop wrote: like to know the REST of THIS story !!! http://www.justbrits.com/z/tyre_1.jpg Back in the early 80s I was on patrol one night when I spotted a 75 Chevy Impala tooling down the road with a rear tire on fire! Even though it was raining pretty good, the DUI driver had been running hard enough for the rubber on the flat tire to actually ignite... The rim was also throwing sparks as he went around corners. I popped him for the DUI and found out that he was wanted in Texas for a murder and a burglary. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From mhagopian at hoppetool.com Fri Jan 16 15:35:51 2009 From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:35:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <078a01c97812$540e0840$1801010a@xp> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> <011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <077901c97808$46f0d6b0$1801010a@xp> <70903D6D6EC64294B17410458F62D49D@Larry> <078a01c97812$540e0840$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <87a1f55d0901161435i316889e7le98478411712ad85@mail.gmail.com> I'll say, 2012 looks to surely be the end of the world with this hippie at the helm. I predict nuclear war and we go first because our president doesn't have any balls, either that or because he is Muslim Sent from my iPhone On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Heard wrote: > Larry, > Thanks for the compliment. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted what I thought > was > you gushing over BO. It does sound like you are getting really defensive > though. Remember, you started this thread. > > Heard > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry Daniels [mailto:ladaniels at sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:22 PM > To: Heard; 'Spridgets List' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches > > Heard, it's time you got your facts straight. > > I never said Obama got 75% of the vote. I said 75% of the country agreed > with me by disapproving of Bush. Read the polls. More news; less > cartoons. > > I never once mentioned anything about Obama -- good, bad or indifferent. > > Tinydog never mentioned Obama or his portion of the vote, either. > > Trouble with basic reading skills? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heard" > To: "'Spridgets List'" > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches > > > Now you guys are going to have to get your facts straight here. Did BO win > 83% of the vote or 75% as Larry states? I was remembering it at more like > 52% or something in that range. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:36 PM > Cc: Spridgets List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches > > tinydog sez: > > These times are great. They identify the "core". The 17%. > > NOWAY > -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" : > -------------- > > > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > > > scheduled to air? > > > > > > It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... > > > > NOBAMA > You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mhagopian at hoppetool.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Sincerely, Matt Hagopian From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 16:23:20 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:23:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <49706937.9661.A04C1F@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <011620091735.11612.4970C56E000596F600002D5C22216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <077901c97808$46f0d6b0$1801010a@xp> <49706937.9661.A04C1F@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <441250190901161523s407c9826t58d66b13c2d0e4f8@mail.gmail.com> One and one third people might disagree with you. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Dave G. wrote: > Youse gotta remember, 4 out of 3 people has trouble with fractions... > > On 16 Jan 2009 at 13:28, Heard wrote: > > >> Now you guys are going to have to get your facts straight here. Did > >> BO win 83% of the vote or 75% as Larry states? I was remembering it > >> at more like 52% or something in that range. > > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS From wmgilroy at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 16:42:29 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:42:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190901161542q17724935q59cb87f94994727e@mail.gmail.com> Not that everyone agrees but I for one am glad to see an administration who believes they are above the law leave the White House: 1. illegal wiretapping 2. torture 3. Justice department using their powers to persecute Democratic politicians. People being fired to be replace by other party friendly people. 4. Hiring people for the no bid contract in Iraq and firing people who asked questions about the contractors performance. 5. Either mis-leading the nation to war or believing intelligence that was wrong. There had to be people who questioned the quality of the data. 6. Running a war without a way to pay for that war. There should have been taxes on investments, savings, and payrolls to pay the cost of the war. Anything less is a chicken shit move. 7. And my favorite, people ignoring Congressional subpoenas. If I tried that I am pretty sure I would be in jail. Nice that we have justice for some. Just off the top of my head. Seems like good list of things that are wrong. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels >wrote: > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is > > scheduled > > to air? > > > It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... > > NOBAMA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dmeadow at juno.com Fri Jan 16 16:50:37 2009 From: dmeadow at juno.com (David Littlefield) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:50:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Message-ID: <20090116.175119.960.2.dmeadow@juno.com> Larry, You started this stupid, OT thread. Don't get snippy about where it leads. David On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:21:36 -0600 "Larry Daniels" writes: > Heard, it's time you got your facts straight. > > I never said Obama got 75% of the vote. I said 75% of the country > agreed > with me by disapproving of Bush. Read the polls. More news; less > cartoons. > > I never once mentioned anything about Obama -- good, bad or > indifferent. > > Tinydog never mentioned Obama or his portion of the vote, either. > > Trouble with basic reading skills? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heard" > To: "'Spridgets List'" > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches > > > Now you guys are going to have to get your facts straight here. Did > BO win > 83% of the vote or 75% as Larry states? I was remembering it at > more like > 52% or something in that range. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > tinydog at snet.net > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:36 PM > Cc: Spridgets List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches > > tinydog sez: > > These times are great. They identify the "core". The 17%. > > NOWAY > -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" > : > -------------- > > > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to > Bush is > > > scheduled to air? > > > > > > It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with > you...... > > > > NOBAMA > You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dmeadow at juno.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > ____________________________________________________________ Click for discounts on jewelry for your mother. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1zIHnq3MfgLOOXIk6oxri8x7IGz6vBN2rXY5ekIqbEVEbaU/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 17:14:44 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:14:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <441250190901161542q17724935q59cb87f94994727e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> <441250190901161542q17724935q59cb87f94994727e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901161614v44216794iefd119dea62d436e@mail.gmail.com> I chuckled at #5. If believing something you were told and later finding out it was wrong was a crime, we'd all be in jail!! ;-) As far as I can see you can offer no concrete proof of any of this. Don't you think that if any of this was true - if there was even an inkling of evidence - the Democrats would have hauled the administration through impeachment and criminal court long ago? The more you agonize over this stuff, the greater the political divides in this country become. For God sake, let go and move on! I forgot Slick Willy long ago. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Bill Gilroy wrote: > Not that everyone agrees but I for one am glad to see an administration who > believes they are above the law leave the White House: > > > 1. illegal wiretapping > 2. torture > 3. Justice department using their powers to persecute Democratic > politicians. People being fired to be replace by other party friendly > people. > 4. Hiring people for the no bid contract in Iraq and firing people who > asked questions about the contractors performance. > 5. Either mis-leading the nation to war or believing intelligence that > was wrong. There had to be people who questioned the quality of the data. > 6. Running a war without a way to pay for that war. There should have > been taxes on investments, savings, and payrolls to pay the cost of the > war. Anything less is a chicken shit move. > 7. And my favorite, people ignoring Congressional subpoenas. If I > tried that I am pretty sure I would be in jail. Nice that we have justice > for some. > > Just off the top of my head. Seems like good list of things that are > wrong. > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels > >wrote: >> >> > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is >> > scheduled >> > to air? >> >> >> It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... >> >> NOBAMA From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 17:29:13 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:29:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901161614v44216794iefd119dea62d436e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com> <441250190901161542q17724935q59cb87f94994727e@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0901161614v44216794iefd119dea62d436e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901161629u3a42a5eai85c7a1a0dfbc1f56@mail.gmail.com> I think the topic was ABOUT speeches, not asking for everyone to give one. I think it is great that 40 years or so ago Dr. King, whose contribution we observe on Monday, BTW, and others were working hard for equal rights. And now, not so far in the future, we have elected a black president. Have we come a long way, or what? I hope he does well. I pray for him to make wise decisions. From tinydog at snet.net Fri Jan 16 17:55:55 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 00:55:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901161614v44216794iefd119dea62d436e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901160925y6a830154tc175949635fcc222@mail.gmail.com><441250190901161542q17724935q59cb87f94994727e@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0901161614v44216794iefd119dea62d436e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <011720090055.21147.49712C9B00048ACC0000529B22193100029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: Colin Powell wouldn't agree with you. "There are none so blind as hey who do not see" Bob Dylan -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" : -------------- > I chuckled at #5. If believing something you were told and later finding > out it was wrong was a crime, we'd all be in jail!! ;-) From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Jan 16 18:53:14 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:53:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <70903D6D6EC64294B17410458F62D49D@Larry> Message-ID: > 75% of the country agreed > with me by disapproving of Bush. Nobody ever asked me. Have any of you ever been polled? From millerls at ado13.com Fri Jan 16 19:01:51 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:01:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches References: Message-ID: <56A245A2CC8849819A5CE0DFBECF80C9@HP> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches >> 75% of the country agreed >> with me by disapproving of Bush. > Nobody ever asked me. Have any of you ever been polled? No. From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jan 16 19:03:14 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:03:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: References: <70903D6D6EC64294B17410458F62D49D@Larry>, Message-ID: <4970CBE2.15169.10FE7C4@kk7ss.verizon.net> Not even a peep !! On 16 Jan 2009 at 17:53, Billy Zoom wrote: >> > 75% of the country agreed >> > with me by disapproving of Bush. >> Nobody ever asked me. Have any of you ever been polled? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From wbmcleod at gmail.com Fri Jan 16 19:01:17 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:01:17 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I didn't have to be polled. I've disapproved of Bush since 1999! And I'm not even a Democrat.... On Jan 16, 2009, at 6:53 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> 75% of the country agreed >> with me by disapproving of Bush. > Nobody ever asked me. Have any of you ever been polled? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wbmcleod at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jan 16 19:21:42 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:21:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related Message-ID: My 2004 Honda Accord LX Coupe 4 cylinder engine is using 3 1/2 qts of oil between 4-5 k oil change intervals. It is not leaking anywhere, nor is there any smoke, white or blue coming from the tail pipe. When you lift the oil filler cap, the air pressure pulses are normal at idle when compared to a new Accord. There is no oil in the antifreeze. It runs great. The dealer is stumped and wants to remove the head to look at the top of the pistons ($800!). It's off warranty. Anyone had any similar problems with a Honda or Toyota. It has only 80 thousand miles on it. Where the Hell is the oil going? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 19:37:02 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:37:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches References: <20090116.175119.960.2.dmeadow@juno.com> Message-ID: <27D11155F0634648BD646010640DFBA6@Larry> David, I merely defended myself when somebody misrepresented what I said. If that is getting snippy to you, tough crap. Don't tell me what not to do. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Littlefield" To: Cc: ; Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Larry, You started this stupid, OT thread. Don't get snippy about where it leads. David On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:21:36 -0600 "Larry Daniels" writes: > Heard, it's time you got your facts straight. > > I never said Obama got 75% of the vote. I said 75% of the country > agreed > with me by disapproving of Bush. Read the polls. More news; less > cartoons. > > I never once mentioned anything about Obama -- good, bad or > indifferent. > > Tinydog never mentioned Obama or his portion of the vote, either. > > Trouble with basic reading skills? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Heard" > To: "'Spridgets List'" > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches > > > Now you guys are going to have to get your facts straight here. Did > BO win > 83% of the vote or 75% as Larry states? I was remembering it at > more like > 52% or something in that range. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > tinydog at snet.net > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 12:36 PM > Cc: Spridgets List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches > > tinydog sez: > > These times are great. They identify the "core". The 17%. > > NOWAY > -------------- Original message from "Jim Johnson" > : > -------------- > > > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > > > > > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to > Bush is > > > scheduled to air? > > > > > > It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with > you...... > > > > NOBAMA > You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dmeadow at juno.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > ____________________________________________________________ Click for discounts on jewelry for your mother. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1zIHnkpIvUP8VzvTCDdosIej5ig3Py07E9BMag76P4N6mo9/ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 19:46:08 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:46:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related References: Message-ID: <480CE9B4631A47C0A5884EEB6CAD3C3B@Larry> Mike, I have a 2001 Accord Coupe w/ the 4 cylinder and it uses no oil between 5K changes. It has 70K on it. Did they do the compression check with oil in the cylinder to seal the rings? Man, that thing has got to be burning it. Did you swipe the inside of the tailpipe to see what that looks like? Look at the plugs? I'd be hesitant to spend $800 to solve a problem that isn't affecting anything other than putting a few extra qts of oil through it. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related My 2004 Honda Accord LX Coupe 4 cylinder engine is using 3 1/2 qts of oil between 4-5 k oil change intervals. It is not leaking anywhere, nor is there any smoke, white or blue coming from the tail pipe. When you lift the oil filler cap, the air pressure pulses are normal at idle when compared to a new Accord. There is no oil in the antifreeze. It runs great. The dealer is stumped and wants to remove the head to look at the top of the pistons ($800!). It's off warranty. Anyone had any similar problems with a Honda or Toyota. It has only 80 thousand miles on it. Where the Hell is the oil going? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jan 16 20:00:37 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:00:37 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: <480CE9B4631A47C0A5884EEB6CAD3C3B@Larry> References: , <480CE9B4631A47C0A5884EEB6CAD3C3B@Larry> Message-ID: <4970D955.21075.1447093@kk7ss.verizon.net> I agree..... think of it as being a rolling oil change... ;-)) Dave G. On 16 Jan 2009 at 20:46, Larry Daniels wrote: >> I'd be hesitant to spend $800 to solve a problem that isn't affecting >> anything other than putting a few extra qts of oil through it. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Jan 16 20:18:21 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:18:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: <4970D955.21075.1447093@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <20090117031822.SSWY16826.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> We had a Saturn in the corral that did that. Fed it 10w30 and it got a little better. Passed emissions OK too. Just a mystery. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:01 PM To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related I agree..... think of it as being a rolling oil change... ;-)) Dave G. On 16 Jan 2009 at 20:46, Larry Daniels wrote: >> I'd be hesitant to spend $800 to solve a problem that isn't affecting >> anything other than putting a few extra qts of oil through it. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jan 16 20:31:48 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:31:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Day 1 of "F This" weekend (no point but LBC content!) Message-ID: <161223.57337.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My boys and I left Roscoe last night at -14F, arrived in Central Florida late to find the natives in ski hats and gloves, 55F. Rented a car at the Sanford airport, 2009 Chevy Malibu for $10.99 a day (recession), cheaper than car fare to the coast. Woke up this AM, went down to the 1970 Midget, it has been sitting since July 2007. Pull the choke, start the car. Hose it off, it looks stunning and settles into a nice burble. Grab son #1, off we go for a bagel run. Chilly morning, so we have jackets on but cruise around for the better part of 2 hours. Absolutely amazing response to the car, more thumbs up than we've gotten in 7 years of owning it. Later, I take the car to pick up sunscreen at a Wal Mart, and I come out to find a guy my age (somewhere between 35 and dead) sitting at the curb waiting to talk to me about the car. He had a 67 Midget in high school, sorry he sold it. Wants to buy mine. I thank him but don't entertain any offer. Get back, walk out of the garage, the fire inspector is at the condo. He ooohs and ahhs, wants to buy the car. Nice. He is a bit of enthusiast, laments that there are no LBCs on the road in Florida anymore. I find that hard to believe, but he seemed to be the kind of guy who would notice. If you live in Florida, shame on you. We spend the majority of the day on the beach reading (the natives are stunned, as it is only in the low 60's and windy, but it was -25 in Roscoe this morning, so we weren't about to waste any BTUs), but all in all a great day. I also got to spend an hour driving a new 328I BMW. I must have one. More Midget cruising on tap for tomorrow and Sunday AM, then back to the Tundra. Back to political banter.... Ron From davriker at nwi.net Fri Jan 16 20:31:38 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:31:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related References: Message-ID: Between the EGR system, and very effective catalitic converters, you may not see blue smoke when burning oil under high vacuum driving conditions. Trade it in. Dave R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:21 PM Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related > My 2004 Honda Accord LX Coupe 4 cylinder engine is using 3 1/2 qts of oil > between 4-5 k oil change intervals. It is not leaking anywhere, nor is > there any smoke, white or blue coming from the tail pipe. When you lift > the > oil filler cap, the air pressure pulses are normal at idle when compared > to > a new Accord. There is no oil in the antifreeze. It runs great. The > dealer is stumped and wants to remove the head to look at the top of the > pistons ($800!). It's off warranty. Anyone had any similar problems with > a > Honda or Toyota. It has only 80 thousand miles on it. Where the Hell is > the oil going? > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1898 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 3:09 PM From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jan 16 20:32:12 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:32:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: <20090117031822.SSWY16826.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <4970D955.21075.1447093@kk7ss.verizon.net> <20090117031822.SSWY16826.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: Just went out and wiped my finger in the tail pipe. Black and sooty. I guess it is going out the there, but from the rings or the intake valves? The tech at the Honda dealer said to bring it in at 1000 miles and he would check the oil level. The service tech writer told me he had to take the head off to look at the top of the pistons. I asked if that was all he wanted see, then why don't you just stick a bore scope down the spark plug hole and look that way and save me 800 bucks. He said he would ask the mechanics if they had one. Maybe I should just sell it and get the new Mini I have been thinking about! Mike MacLean On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Chris Manuel wrote: > We had a Saturn in the corral that did that. Fed it 10w30 and it got a > little better. Passed emissions OK too. Just a mystery. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:01 PM > To: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related > > I agree..... think of it as being a rolling oil change... ;-)) > > Dave G. > > On 16 Jan 2009 at 20:46, Larry Daniels wrote: > > >> I'd be hesitant to spend $800 to solve a problem that isn't affecting > >> anything other than putting a few extra qts of oil through it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Jan 16 20:32:54 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:32:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Probably the best solution David. Mike On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:31 PM, David Riker wrote: > Between the EGR system, and very effective catalitic converters, you may > not see blue smoke when burning oil under high vacuum driving conditions. > Trade it in. > Dave R. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" < > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:21 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related > > > My 2004 Honda Accord LX Coupe 4 cylinder engine is using 3 1/2 qts of oil >> between 4-5 k oil change intervals. It is not leaking anywhere, nor is >> there any smoke, white or blue coming from the tail pipe. When you lift >> the >> oil filler cap, the air pressure pulses are normal at idle when compared >> to >> a new Accord. There is no oil in the antifreeze. It runs great. The >> dealer is stumped and wants to remove the head to look at the top of the >> pistons ($800!). It's off warranty. Anyone had any similar problems with >> a >> Honda or Toyota. It has only 80 thousand miles on it. Where the Hell is >> the oil going? >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1898 - Release Date: 1/16/2009 > 3:09 PM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 16 21:11:20 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:11:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related References: <4970D955.21075.1447093@kk7ss.verizon.net><20090117031822.SSWY16826.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <865BA1CBECB74E3EA1922C483888EB3C@Larry> There you go, Mike. I've been eyeing up that MINI Clubman, myself. I really like that thing for some reason. It just might find itself in my stable someday. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" To: "Chris Manuel" Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related Just went out and wiped my finger in the tail pipe. Black and sooty. I guess it is going out the there, but from the rings or the intake valves? The tech at the Honda dealer said to bring it in at 1000 miles and he would check the oil level. The service tech writer told me he had to take the head off to look at the top of the pistons. I asked if that was all he wanted see, then why don't you just stick a bore scope down the spark plug hole and look that way and save me 800 bucks. He said he would ask the mechanics if they had one. Maybe I should just sell it and get the new Mini I have been thinking about! Mike MacLean On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Chris Manuel wrote: > We had a Saturn in the corral that did that. Fed it 10w30 and it got a > little better. Passed emissions OK too. Just a mystery. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:01 PM > To: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related > > I agree..... think of it as being a rolling oil change... ;-)) > > Dave G. > > On 16 Jan 2009 at 20:46, Larry Daniels wrote: > > >> I'd be hesitant to spend $800 to solve a problem that isn't affecting > >> anything other than putting a few extra qts of oil through it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Jan 16 21:14:11 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:14:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related Message-ID: <26a8d01c9785a$0ce31c10$116a010a@mail2world.com> Valve stem seals. I have a Toyota that was doing the same thing. I ignored it (except for topping up the oil) until it was actually blowing blue smoke. Then I replaced them, and no more burning. It leaks out the rear main seal, but that's another story. :) But at 252K, it's probably time to change the seal. You should be able to replace the valve stem seals without pulling the head. The dealer probably will want to pull the head, so if you can do it yourself you'd be much better off. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com [rrengineer at dslextreme.com] >Sent: 1/16/2009 9:22:42 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related > >My 2004 Honda Accord LX Coupe 4 cylinder engine is using 3 1/2 qts of oil >between 4-5 k oil change intervals. It is not leaking anywhere, nor is >there any smoke, white or blue coming from the tail pipe. When you lift the >oil filler cap, the air pressure pulses are normal at idle when compared to >a new Accord. There is no oil in the antifreeze. It runs great. The >dealer is stumped and wants to remove the head to look at the top of the >pistons ($800!). It's off warranty. Anyone had any similar problems with a >Honda or Toyota. It has only 80 thousand miles on it. Where the Hell is >the oil going? >Mike MacLean >60 Sprite >56 BN2 >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 16 21:26:05 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:26:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Day 1 of "F This" weekend (no point but LBC content!) In-Reply-To: <161223.57337.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <161223.57337.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49715DDD.3010907@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > More Midget cruising on tap for tomorrow and Sunday AM, then back to the Tundra. > I thought you had a Ford F-150, so you bought a toyota truck huh ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 16 21:30:25 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:30:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <524746.57903.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Don't know if it applies to this car or not, but Hondas used to be bad about the valve stem seals leaking oil. It wasn't that big a deal to replace them if I remember right - again, I don't know your particular engine. It will probably last for quite a while if you keep feeding it oil. On the other hand - we absolutely love our '05 Mini... - David --- On Fri, 1/16/09, rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote: From: rrengineer @dslextreme.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related To: "Chris Manuel" Cc: "spridgets" Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 9:32 PM Just went out and wiped my finger in the tail pipe. Black and sooty. I guess it is going out the there, but from the rings or the intake valves? The tech at the Honda dealer said to bring it in at 1000 miles and he would check the oil level. The service tech writer told me he had to take the head off to look at the top of the pistons. I asked if that was all he wanted see, then why don't you just stick a bore scope down the spark plug hole and look that way and save me 800 bucks. He said he would ask the mechanics if they had one. Maybe I should just sell it and get the new Mini I have been thinking about! Mike MacLean On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Chris Manuel wrote: > We had a Saturn in the corral that did that. Fed it 10w30 and it got a > little better. Passed emissions OK too. Just a mystery. > > Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave G. > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:01 PM > To: spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related > > I agree..... think of it as being a rolling oil change... ;-)) > > Dave G. > > On 16 Jan 2009 at 20:46, Larry Daniels wrote: > > >> I'd be hesitant to spend $800 to solve a problem that isn't affecting > >> anything other than putting a few extra qts of oil through it. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 00:44:30 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:44:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49718C5E.5080800@gmail.com> I had a Sentra that burned oil on high vacuum conditions. I never saw anything out the tailpipe until it got really bad. -g David Riker wrote: > Between the EGR system, and very effective catalitic converters, you > may not see blue smoke when burning oil under high vacuum driving > conditions. Trade it in. > Dave R. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" > > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 6:21 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related > > >> My 2004 Honda Accord LX Coupe 4 cylinder engine is using 3 1/2 qts of >> oil >> between 4-5 k oil change intervals. It is not leaking anywhere, nor is >> there any smoke, white or blue coming from the tail pipe. When you >> lift the >> oil filler cap, the air pressure pulses are normal at idle when >> compared to >> a new Accord. There is no oil in the antifreeze. It runs great. The >> dealer is stumped and wants to remove the head to look at the top of the >> pistons ($800!). It's off warranty. Anyone had any similar problems >> with a >> Honda or Toyota. It has only 80 thousand miles on it. Where the >> Hell is >> the oil going? >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.8/1898 - Release Date: > 1/16/2009 3:09 PM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jan 17 07:54:42 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:54:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches References: Message-ID: <2FD8101FB6FA4A9A8343E28860CAC861@midget> >> 75% of the country agreed >> with me by disapproving of Bush. > Nobody ever asked me. Have any of you ever been polled? As if they want OUR opinions! 73.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Jan 17 08:38:27 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:38:27 EST Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Message-ID: Of course there is no concrete proof that's how they get away with it, that and being bigger and more powerful than anyone else. I've heard 2 and 4 over here. I don't honestly believe any one major political party is that much different from another and increasingly it seems they become more similar as they discover what they have to say to get elected. Weslake-Monza1330 In a message dated 17/01/2009 00:14:55 GMT Standard Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: I chuckled at #5. If believing something you were told and later finding out it was wrong was a crime, we'd all be in jail!! ;-) As far as I can see you can offer no concrete proof of any of this. Don't you think that if any of this was true - if there was even an inkling of evidence - the Democrats would have hauled the administration through impeachment and criminal court long ago? The more you agonize over this stuff, the greater the political divides in this country become. For God sake, let go and move on! I forgot Slick Willy long ago. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Bill Gilroy wrote: > Not that everyone agrees but I for one am glad to see an administration who > believes they are above the law leave the White House: > > > 1. illegal wiretapping > 2. torture > 3. Justice department using their powers to persecute Democratic > politicians. People being fired to be replace by other party friendly > people. > 4. Hiring people for the no bid contract in Iraq and firing people who > asked questions about the contractors performance. > 5. Either mis-leading the nation to war or believing intelligence that > was wrong. There had to be people who questioned the quality of the data. > 6. Running a war without a way to pay for that war. There should have > been taxes on investments, savings, and payrolls to pay the cost of the > war. Anything less is a chicken shit move. > 7. And my favorite, people ignoring Congressional subpoenas. If I > tried that I am pretty sure I would be in jail. Nice that we have justice > for some. > > Just off the top of my head. Seems like good list of things that are > wrong. > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:25 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Larry Daniels > >wrote: >> >> > Does anyone know when the nation's "good riddance" speech to Bush is >> > scheduled >> > to air? >> >> >> It may come as a terrible shock, but not everyone agrees with you...... >> >> NOBAMA You are subscribed as weslakemonza1330 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat Jan 17 08:40:55 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:40:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <2FD8101FB6FA4A9A8343E28860CAC861@midget> References: <2FD8101FB6FA4A9A8343E28860CAC861@midget> Message-ID: <98B83107532C4EB3A1974BB3481F927D@Home> This morning the radio news reported Bush's exit approval rating is 22% (as my fading memory recalls), the lowest in the 70 years the poll has been taken. Michael Rowe From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Jan 17 08:41:59 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:41:59 EST Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related Message-ID: How much oil can you buy for 800 bucks and how many miles would you drive to burn that much oil? In a message dated 17/01/2009 03:32:43 GMT Standard Time, rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes: 800 bucks From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Sat Jan 17 09:42:51 2009 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:42:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Message-ID: <25371317.1232210571634.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: I don't honestly believe any one major political party is that much > different from another and increasingly it seems they become more similar as they > discover what they have to say to get elected. From jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU Sat Jan 17 10:09:04 2009 From: jdc6 at Lehigh.EDU (John D. Caffrey) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:09:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches Message-ID: <29621589.1232212144734.JavaMail.jdc6@lehigh.edu> WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > I don't honestly believe any one major political party is that much > different from another and increasingly it seems they become more similar as they > discover what they have to say to get elected. > From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 17 11:21:12 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:21:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Day 2 of "F This" weekend (no point but LBC content!) In-Reply-To: <161223.57337.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <155326.5972.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > laments that there are no LBCs on the road in > Florida anymore. Not much to bore you with today, but we were on the road for about 30 seconds this morning when we got side by side with an MGB-GT. 24 hours til tundra. Ron From fastvee at yahoo.com Sat Jan 17 11:28:37 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:28:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Email Problems Message-ID: <445327.44257.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My apologies to the list for two previous empty messages. My replies were somehow trimmed when I sent them, and I have since resubscribed from my other email account. I am baffled, and hope it is not related to an infection of windefender 2009 scareware on Tuesday. FYI, A popup appears telling you it has discovered activity at your firewall and tries to redirect you to their download site where their worm is implanted, which has the ability to send your info, passwords, and screen shots back to the sender. I followed manual instructions to clear the hidden files from my registry and temp folder and have used the computer without problems until this morning. I have updated Symantic AV, Spybot Search&Destroy, and AdAware, and none caught the scareware download. If one of these scareware popups appears on your computer, DO NOT click on it anywhere. Closing the browser immediately or unplugging the CPU seems to be the only safe method to avoid infection. http://tinyurl.com/8kbwna John Fogelsville, PA From Mjsprite at aol.com Sat Jan 17 11:33:06 2009 From: Mjsprite at aol.com (Mjsprite at aol.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:33:06 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet Message-ID: Here's an interesting sports car. I was not familiar with it. _http://www.americansportscars.com/muntz.html_ (http://www.americansportscars.com/muntz.html) Mike **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From cclabaw at juno.com Sat Jan 17 11:46:49 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:46:49 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet Message-ID: <20090117.104649.23649.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> Mike - There also was a Sports Car that came out of this effort. Also made by KurtisKraft (maker of front-engined Indy cars), it was called the Muntz 500K and looked like an Allard J-2. Dave Fogg of Olympia (or Tacoma) Wash, got ahold of one and Tom Carstens brought it to Sheldon (airport) raceway for the Seafair races. Went like mad; cornered okay. I think this was in between Tom's HWM-Jaguar (later -Chevy) and his Knobbly (again, -Jag, then -Chevy) in the late 50's - earl 60's. The last one was the first car I'd ever seen with a speedo that topped 200 mph. Clay L. '67 Sprite -- Mjsprite at aol.com wrote: Here's an interesting sports car. I was not familiar with it. _http://www.americansportscars.com/muntz.html_ (http://www.americansportscars.com/muntz.html) Mike **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http ://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Market your business online. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2SpgCcHg4tdwco4Hzxe4lTek6vj MGJhjDwt63wJ2P3N7yji/ From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Jan 17 11:58:19 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:58:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: By my calculations, over 350,000 miles. Doubt I will have the car that long. It has 80,000 miles now. Mike On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:41 AM, wrote: > How much oil can you buy for 800 bucks and how many miles would you drive > to burn that much oil? > > > In a message dated 17/01/2009 03:32:43 GMT Standard Time, > rrengineer at dslextreme.com writes: > > 800 bucks From rbastedo at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 12:24:37 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:24:37 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Email Problems Message-ID: My wife's machine picked that up, I found a tool at bitdefender to clean it but I had to boot her machine in safe mode to get it to work The little bugger is smart enough to give you false success messages (such as "Cleanup Successful") while defeating the tools designed to kill it. Running in safe mode also allows you access to regedit and msconfig which the infection sometimes disables in standard mode. Rick Bastedo (IT is what I do...when I'm not playing with my cars) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:28:37 -0800 (PST) From: fastvee Subject: [Spridgets] Email Problems To: spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <445327.44257.qm at web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My apologies to the list for two previous empty messages. My replies were somehow trimmed when I sent them, and I have since resubscribed from my other email account. I am baffled, and hope it is not related to an infection of windefender 2009 scareware on Tuesday. FYI, A popup appears telling you it has discovered activity at your firewall and tries to redirect you to their download site where their worm is implanted, which has the ability to send your info, passwords, and screen shots back to the sender. I followed manual instructions to clear the hidden files from my registry and temp folder and have used the computer without problems until this morning. I have updated Symantic AV, Spybot Search&Destroy, and AdAware, and none caught the scareware download. If one of these scareware popups appears on your computer, DO NOT click on it anywhere. Closing the browser immediately or unplugging the CPU seems to be the only safe method to avoid infection. http://tinyurl.com/8kbwna John Fogelsville, PA --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 13:03:08 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:03:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4972397C.8020302@gmail.com> I never knew he made new cars. I had heard of him from the eletronic industry, and his name was a verb "muntzing". See http://www.smecc.org/mad_man_muntz!.htm -g Mjsprite at aol.com wrote: > Here's an interesting sports car. I was not familiar with it. > > > _http://www.americansportscars.com/muntz.html_ > (http://www.americansportscars.com/muntz.html) > > > Mike > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From fastvee at yahoo.com Sat Jan 17 13:49:58 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:49:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Email Problems Message-ID: <871778.60354.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Rick. I hate feeling helpless and am trying to get a quick education, which is why I followed the manual instructions. Unfortunately I found that even with checking the option to show hidden files they have a way to hide them from you, so it leaves me guessing whether I missed anything. I have the block pop-ups option checked, and looked through the list that comes up under "Exceptions", and there are hundreds of sites listed as blocked. I am curious if that list is populated by pop-up attempts? Or did it come from one of my AV protections? If so, I just screwed up by removing one of the blocked sites from the list, and don't remember the name. Maybe I just need to run another round of AV updates? John Fogelsville, PA --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Rick Bastedo wrote: From: Rick Bastedo Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Email Problems To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 2:24 PM My wife's machine picked that up, I found a tool at bitdefender to clean it but I had to boot her machine in safe mode to get it to work The little bugger is smart enough to give you false success messages (such as "Cleanup Successful") while defeating the tools designed to kill it. Running in safe mode also allows you access to regedit and msconfig which the infection sometimes disables in standard mode. Rick Bastedo (IT is what I do...when I'm not playing with my cars) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:28:37 -0800 (PST) From: fastvee Subject: [Spridgets] Email Problems To: spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <445327.44257.qm at web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My apologies to the list for two previous empty messages. My replies were somehow trimmed when I sent them, and I have since resubscribed from my other email account. I am baffled, and hope it is not related to an infection of windefender 2009 scareware on Tuesday. FYI, A popup appears telling you it has discovered activity at your firewall and tries to redirect you to their download site where their worm is implanted, which has the ability to send your info, passwords, and screen shots back to the sender. I followed manual instructions to clear the hidden files from my registry and temp folder and have used the computer without problems until this morning. I have updated Symantic AV, Spybot Search&Destroy, and AdAware, and none caught the scareware download. If one of these scareware popups appears on your computer, DO NOT click on it anywhere. Closing the browser immediately or unplugging the CPU seems to be the only safe method to avoid infection. http://tinyurl.com/8kbwna John Fogelsville, PA --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are subscribed as fastvee at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 17 15:12:45 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:12:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet References: Message-ID: <6AF7AAF29853453CB14AB0409764069F@Larry> It kind of reminds me of an Austin Atlantic. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:33 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet Here's an interesting sports car. I was not familiar with it. _http://www.americansportscars.com/muntz.html_ (http://www.americansportscars.com/muntz.html) Mike **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Jan 17 15:33:12 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:33:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] MicroCar World Meet 2010 Message-ID: <9909F90639004CD782BC1FC627968B0A@midget> Just a reminder that the World Meet 2010 & National Meet of the Vintage Microcar Club will be August 21-22 2010 in Crystal Lake, IL. They consider cars under 500cc to be "Microcars" and cars over that and under 1500cc to be "Minicars", so all Spridgets would seem to qualify. The location is about half an hour from me, so I intend to be there. Info at http://www.microcar.org/meets.html more info as it becomes available at: www.WorldMeet2010.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 17 15:58:42 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:58:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Fantasy Football Message-ID: If you like football - you'll love this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHH-6ZQktRQ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jan 17 16:00:53 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:00:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: <480CE9B4631A47C0A5884EEB6CAD3C3B@Larry> Message-ID: Honda's don't break or wear out. It must be demon possessed. It'd burn it. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jan 17 16:02:13 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:02:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: <20090117031822.SSWY16826.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: > We had a Saturn in the corral that did that. But Saturns ALL do that. This is a Honda! From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Jan 17 16:07:49 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:07:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] First Drive of 2009 Message-ID: <123143703.20090117150749@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Many times I can get out on the last day of the year and the first day of the year for commemorative drives...This winter ..NOPE Finally the roads are dry, the sun out is out and I got to take the red thing out for the first drive of the year. It's so clear you can see as far as there is something to see, albeit, chilly. We're supposed to get about 10 days of this.... YIppEEEEEEEeeeeeee! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Diplomacy is the ability to let someone else have your way. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jan 17 16:09:05 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:09:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > the new Mini Check out the Honda FIT first. From millerls at ado13.com Sat Jan 17 16:13:44 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:13:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet References: <6AF7AAF29853453CB14AB0409764069F@Larry> Message-ID: <774E0A94EFDF4AF58E1F7D2E4D3ED8B9@HP> I remember this guy well as should all in SOCAL. Google "madman muntz" or try this link for info on the man. http://www.freeenterpriseland.com/MUNTZ.html Larry Miller From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Jan 17 16:17:42 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:17:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet In-Reply-To: <4972397C.8020302@gmail.com> Message-ID: As I recall, the Muntz version was six or seven inches longer than the Curtis Kraft. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Jan 17 16:22:52 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:22:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet In-Reply-To: <774E0A94EFDF4AF58E1F7D2E4D3ED8B9@HP> References: <6AF7AAF29853453CB14AB0409764069F@Larry> <774E0A94EFDF4AF58E1F7D2E4D3ED8B9@HP> Message-ID: <9B402D098B6D405EB4BE8429A15AD9AF@spider> Sold a TV with only seven tubes in it; no frills. ...bill in oregon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_Muntz ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry & Sandi Miller Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:14 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet I remember this guy well as should all in So.Cal. Google "madman muntz" or try this link for info on the man. http://www.freeenterpriseland.com/MUNTZ.html Larry Miller _______________________________________________ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Jan 17 16:24:17 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:24:17 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090117232417.6Q8E7.119534.root@hrndva-web02-z01> I gave one a drive, and although its a good commuter car probably, it was terrible in the snow. Chris ---- Billy Zoom wrote: > > the new Mini > Check out the Honda FIT first. From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 17 19:48:08 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:48:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <2FD8101FB6FA4A9A8343E28860CAC861@midget> References: <2FD8101FB6FA4A9A8343E28860CAC861@midget> Message-ID: <49729868.3030800@comcast.net> >> Nobody ever asked me. Have any of you ever been polled? As a matter of fact, I have been polled. Just prior to this past election. Lots of questions, mostly BS and my answers could have been taken anyway they wanted to hear them. Questions ranged from president, congress, and down to local. They were trying to figure out if i was voting D or R without coming right out and asking. Yes they did ask me how I felt about Bush. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Jan 17 19:49:23 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:49:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497298B3.7090608@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >> the new Mini >> > Check out the Honda FIT first. > Isn't that called a Honda F-it ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 17 20:45:35 2009 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:45:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <49729868.3030800@comcast.net> Message-ID: <705603.81511.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Come on group, we can't let a statement like this go without some tongue in cheek answer!!!!!! --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Frank Clarici wrote: Yes they did ask me how I felt about Bush. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 17 21:07:31 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:07:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <705603.81511.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <49729868.3030800@comcast.net> <705603.81511.qm@web51606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901172007s7c3b4ea9w24d509503e8177e1@mail.gmail.com> Oh, Okay. My favorite Bush is the Hydrangea. **On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Bob Van Kirk wrote: > Come on group, we can't let a statement like this go without some tongue in > cheek answer!!!!!! > > --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Frank Clarici wrote: > > Yes they did ask me how I felt about Bush. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 17 21:14:51 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:14:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901172007s7c3b4ea9w24d509503e8177e1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: << My favorite Bush is the Hydrangea.>> Now THAT I can believe !!! From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Jan 18 00:54:24 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 23:54:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, but car related In-Reply-To: References: <480CE9B4631A47C0A5884EEB6CAD3C3B@Larry> Message-ID: I would burn it if I could afford it, but I am still making payments!Mike On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Honda's don't break or wear out. It must be demon possessed. It'd burn it. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 18 06:00:17 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:00:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Speeches In-Reply-To: <49729868.3030800@comcast.net> Message-ID: <347624.87772.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 1/17/09, Frank Clarici wrote: > without coming right out and asking. Yes they did ask me how > I felt about Bush. Tell them you knew Clinton would lick Bush, but you didn't think Gore would. Anon From nases at verizon.net Sun Jan 18 06:24:17 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:24:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? Message-ID: <7408919F-C6DF-4BC0-A69C-B8E83F5E8643@verizon.net> I came across this electric vehicle information. I thought it was interesting. Whether it's true or whether it's nonsense I don't know. I'm sure the engineers on the list have heard of it before. Is it just legend? http://keelynet.com/energy/teslafe1.htm Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From jjj at acsnet.com Sun Jan 18 07:28:07 2009 From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 08:28:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] Micro Cars! Message-ID: <4516.66.172.236.72.1232288887.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> Thanks David Lieb, I've got a Berkeley as well! Kurt A From fastvee at yahoo.com Sun Jan 18 07:42:10 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 06:42:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Micro Cars! In-Reply-To: <4516.66.172.236.72.1232288887.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> Message-ID: <741403.12695.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 1/18/09, jjj at acsnet.com wrote: > Thanks David Lieb, I've got a Berkeley as well! > Kurt A Then you probably know about this web site? http://www.coldplugs.com/ Also has great photos of road racing sports cars from the 50's & 60's. Just found it yesterday. John Fogelsville, PA From cciaffone at verizon.net Sun Jan 18 08:15:51 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 10:15:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Micro Cars! In-Reply-To: <741403.12695.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <741403.12695.qm@web34403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <497347A7.2030001@verizon.net> Wow! I mispent my entire youth at Thompson in the 60's. Great racing in those days. Thanks for the link; the pix and track diagrams bring back happy memories. chuck fastvee wrote: > Then you probably know about this web site? > http://www.coldplugs.com/ > Also has great photos of road racing sports cars from the 50's & 60's. Just found it yesterday. From fastvee at yahoo.com Sun Jan 18 08:51:57 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 07:51:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Micro Cars! Message-ID: <770504.59179.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have been sharing the link with all of my racing friends. It was before my time, but many of these cars also raced the PA hillclimbs! I did my first driver's school and regional races at Thompson in 1975. The site history does not mention anything from the 70's. It was a slightly different configuration from what I remember, and oh so much fun. I was very sorry to see it close. John --- On Sun, 1/18/09, chuck wrote: From: chuck Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Micro Cars! To: fastvee at yahoo.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net, jjj at acsnet.com Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 10:15 AM Wow! I mispent my entire youth at Thompson in the 60's. Great racing in those days. Thanks for the link; the pix and track diagrams bring back happy memories. chuck fastvee wrote: > Then you probably know about this web site? > http://www.coldplugs.com/ > Also has great photos of road racing sports cars from the 50's & 60's. Just found it yesterday. > > From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 18 11:37:30 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:37:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? In-Reply-To: <7408919F-C6DF-4BC0-A69C-B8E83F5E8643@verizon.net> References: <7408919F-C6DF-4BC0-A69C-B8E83F5E8643@verizon.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901181037u3c2c258la9d4b97d71dead20@mail.gmail.com> Phil, To the best of my knowledge it is true. Check this site: http://www.teslamotors.com/ I've seen a road test on a Tesla on TV and it was impressive. So was the price tag ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Phil Nase wrote: > I came across this electric vehicle information. I thought it was > interesting. Whether it's true or whether it's nonsense I don't know. I'm > sure the engineers on the list have heard of it before. Is it just legend? > > http://keelynet.com/energy/teslafe1.htm From jjj at acsnet.com Sun Jan 18 12:33:46 2009 From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:33:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] Re,Re,Microcars! Message-ID: <2467.66.172.236.72.1232307226.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> Yes "fastvee" I'm familiar with the coldplug site but not with the micro meet in Crystal Lake. About 500 miles. It would be a hoot to DRIVE a Berk to that meet! Unfortunatly my Berk is in need of a total resto that is currently on a back burner. Anybody know where I can pick up a 3 cylinder 492 excelcior engine? I'll probably put something else in but have'nt decided what yet. Trying to get/keep spridgets running. Spring is one day closer! Kurt A From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Jan 18 12:55:03 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 11:55:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Re,Re,Microcars! Message-ID: Have you seen the "Berzerkley" project in Grassroots Motorsports? They're putting a modern sportbike engine in a Berkley... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: jjj at acsnet.com [jjj at acsnet.com] >Sent: 1/18/2009 2:35:46 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Re,Re,Microcars! > >Yes "fastvee" I'm familiar with the coldplug site but not with the micro >meet in Crystal Lake. About 500 miles. It would be a hoot to DRIVE a Berk >to that meet! Unfortunatly my Berk is in need of a total resto that is >currently on a back burner. Anybody know where I can pick up a 3 cylinder >492 excelcior engine? I'll probably put something else in but have'nt >decided what yet. Trying to get/keep spridgets running. >Spring is one day closer! Kurt A >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 18 13:50:30 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:50:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901181037u3c2c258la9d4b97d71dead20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <643700.54325.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The Tesla is definitely real, but the car Phil is referring to is one made 80 years ago by Nicola Tesla. This is who the current (no pun intended) Tesla electric sports car company is named for. (I wonder if they had to pay somebody toi use the name) I have not heard of the particular car mentioned in the link Phil sent, but it would not surprise me in the least if he did create this thing and then it got covered up. Nicola Tesla was one of the most brilliant people ever to have lived - and I do mean ever. He's probably in the top five intelligence-wise the human species has ever produced. I've read a few books about him and he was just plain astonishing. - David --- On Sun, 1/18/09, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? To: "Spridgets List" Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 12:37 PM Phil, To the best of my knowledge it is true. Check this site: http://www.teslamotors.com/ I've seen a road test on a Tesla on TV and it was impressive. So was the price tag ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Phil Nase wrote: > I came across this electric vehicle information. I thought it was > interesting. Whether it's true or whether it's nonsense I don't know. I'm > sure the engineers on the list have heard of it before. Is it just legend? > > http://keelynet.com/energy/teslafe1.htm You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 18 14:07:14 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:07:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? In-Reply-To: <643700.54325.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0901181037u3c2c258la9d4b97d71dead20@mail.gmail.com> <643700.54325.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901181307id41c833ldd3aaaf46185a189@mail.gmail.com> Hi David, Yes, I learned about Nicola Tesla back in College Physics in the early 1960s. Truly a misunderstood genius. We should have dumped Edison and gone with Tesla way back when. FWIW, one of the historical books I read a very long time ago mentioned his experiments with a car so I do believe the info on the site Phil posted is quite true though I cannot offer definitive proof. That said, a Google of "Nicola Tesla electric car" yields 35,000 hits which leads me to believe that there is ample proof somewhere! Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 2:50 PM, David Booker wrote: > The Tesla is definitely real, but the car Phil is referring to is one made > 80 years ago by Nicola Tesla. This is who the current (no pun intended) > Tesla electric sports car company is named for. (I wonder if they had to > pay somebody toi use the name) I have not heard of the particular car > mentioned in the link Phil sent, but it would not surprise me in the least > if he did create this thing and then it got covered up. Nicola Tesla was > one of the most brilliant people ever to have lived - and I do mean ever. > He's probably in the top five intelligence-wise the human species has ever > produced. I've read a few books about him and he was just plain > astonishing. > > - David > > --- On *Sun, 1/18/09, Jim Johnson * wrote: > > From: Jim Johnson > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? > To: "Spridgets List" > Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 12:37 PM > > Phil, > > To the best of my knowledge it is true. Check this site: > http://www.teslamotors.com/ > > I've seen a road test on a Tesla on TV and it was impressive. So was the > price tag ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 7:24 AM, Phil Nase wrote: > > > I came across this electric vehicle information. I thought it was > > interesting. Whether it's true or whether it's nonsense I > don't know. I'm > > sure the engineers on the list have heard of it before. Is it just > legend? > > > > http://keelynet.com/energy/teslafe1.htm > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > http://www.team.net/archive > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 18 15:00:16 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:00:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite brakes Message-ID: <4973A670.9000408@comcast.net> As some of you know, Fr Jack's brakes were giving us headaches the day he drove the car for the first time. Stuck ON brakes meant no power on the road and really quick stops if you let off the gas. I adjusted the master push rods 6 ways from Sunday and the brakes were good for a 1/2 mile then lock up. I kept on adjusting, re-adjusting, and even switched rods all with weird results. Yesterday we brought the Holy Sprite to my house, a journey of about 15 miles and the first push on the pedal went almost to the floor, second push was fine, 3rd locked up the brakes and they would not release. But they did release after a few miles only to lock up when I had to stop. So today I replaced the master with a fresh rebuilt unit, I adjusted the rods by the book and the brakes are perfect. No lock up, no to the floor, they are as they should be. So I figured I messed up the first master when I rebuilt it, flipped seal, forgot the brake valve or stuck it in the clutch side, whatever, but something had to be wrong. I tore apart the master and everything was fine, correct valve in correct bore, seals perfect, WTF? Then I see something shiny in the master sitting in the brake side reservoir. It was a 1/2 x 1/4" piece of aluminum foil with plastic on it, sort of like a gum wrapper or something, just a scrap sitting between the cups of the piston blocking the fluid return hole. First question was how on earth did it get there? Must have been the rebuilder (me) who never looked. Now all those weird pedals and all those adjustments made perfect sense. A movable blockage on the master will do this. In time the fluid weeped past the tin foil making the brakes work again. All is well with the brakes now, next is the Holy Smokes engine which burned 2.5 qts in 118 miles of use. I have the spare all rebuilt and ready to drop in right after the Newspaper does their interview and photo shoot this Tuesday. Just one more WEIRD problem that nobody would have ever figured out. So keep the tin foil out of your master cylinders guys, it's a real PITA. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From nases at verizon.net Sun Jan 18 15:07:08 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:07:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite brakes In-Reply-To: <4973A670.9000408@comcast.net> References: <4973A670.9000408@comcast.net> Message-ID: <394FB20E-6478-4503-B987-F5AE941057E3@verizon.net> Sounds like a piece of the seal on a brake fluid bottle got in there. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jan 18, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > As some of you know, Fr Jack's brakes were giving us headaches the > day he drove the car for the first time. > Stuck ON brakes meant no power on the road and really quick stops if > you let off the gas. > I adjusted the master push rods 6 ways from Sunday and the brakes > were good for a 1/2 mile then lock up. > I kept on adjusting, re-adjusting, and even switched rods all with > weird results. > Yesterday we brought the Holy Sprite to my house, a journey of about > 15 miles and the first push on the pedal went almost to the floor, > second push was fine, 3rd locked up the brakes and they would not > release. > But they did release after a few miles only to lock up when I had to > stop. > So today I replaced the master with a fresh rebuilt unit, I adjusted > the rods by the book and the brakes are perfect. > No lock up, no to the floor, they are as they should be. > So I figured I messed up the first master when I rebuilt it, flipped > seal, forgot the brake valve or stuck it in the clutch side, > whatever, but something had to be wrong. > I tore apart the master and everything was fine, correct valve in > correct bore, seals perfect, WTF? > Then I see something shiny in the master sitting in the brake side > reservoir. It was a 1/2 x 1/4" piece of aluminum foil with plastic > on it, sort of like a gum wrapper or something, just a scrap sitting > between the cups of the piston blocking the fluid return hole. > First question was how on earth did it get there? Must have been the > rebuilder (me) who never looked. > Now all those weird pedals and all those adjustments made perfect > sense. > A movable blockage on the master will do this. In time the fluid > weeped past the tin foil making the brakes work again. > All is well with the brakes now, next is the Holy Smokes engine > which burned 2.5 qts in 118 miles of use. > I have the spare all rebuilt and ready to drop in right after the > Newspaper does their interview and photo shoot > this Tuesday. > > Just one more WEIRD problem that nobody would have ever figured out. > So keep the tin foil out of your master cylinders guys, it's a real > PITA. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nases at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 18 15:10:56 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:10:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite brakes In-Reply-To: <394FB20E-6478-4503-B987-F5AE941057E3@verizon.net> References: <4973A670.9000408@comcast.net> <394FB20E-6478-4503-B987-F5AE941057E3@verizon.net> Message-ID: <4973A8F0.10208@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > Sounds like a piece of the seal on a brake fluid bottle got in there. > Phil That is EXACTLY what it was now that you said that. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Jan 18 17:36:39 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 19:36:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? In-Reply-To: <7408919F-C6DF-4BC0-A69C-B8E83F5E8643@verizon.net> References: <7408919F-C6DF-4BC0-A69C-B8E83F5E8643@verizon.net> Message-ID: <9F8EBC2E5DE140838BB8F4886CCB086F@Home> > Is it just legend? Cars that run on electricity scavenged out of the air actually run on a hidden source of bull shit. I once saw a video of a small motor that ran quite well on pure water. The guy wasn't selling the engine. He was selling protected dealerships for only $10,000 per region - a bargain given potential sales. The motor used a precisely measured piece of steel rod from a hardware store to capture the earth's magnetic field and break the water into hydrogen and oxygen, which could be seen bubbling up through the water. It was really quite amazing until you noticed that the base to which the motor was bolted was about 1.5" thick, leaving plenty of space for gaseous bull shit to be hidden inside. Michael Rowe From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 18 17:53:06 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:53:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? References: <7408919F-C6DF-4BC0-A69C-B8E83F5E8643@verizon.net> <9F8EBC2E5DE140838BB8F4886CCB086F@Home> Message-ID: I imagine that the real reason Tesla never made a commercial success of his wireless power was that it would be too hard to bill consumers for a wireless power supply, and therefore not very attractive to investment capital. Nowadays, we would put hour-meters on the equipment and bill for usage. Given the growing evidence of a correlation between high-tension lines and incidence of cancers, perhaps it is just as well that Tesla did not succeed in bombarding us with even more power. Of course, Edison was somewhat thwarted as well. He believed strongly in DC power. The problem with DC at the time was that it was too difficult to transport in commercial quantities. It was fine if you generated your own, but it was quite difficult to raise the voltage and quite inefficient to lower it. AC had the major advantage that a transformer can efficiently raise or lower the voltage making it practical to send it across country as high voltage/low amperage over a comparitively small wire. David Lieb From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 18 18:27:42 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:27:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? In-Reply-To: <7408919F-C6DF-4BC0-A69C-B8E83F5E8643@verizon.net> Message-ID: Bunk. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 18 18:33:08 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:33:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? In-Reply-To: <643700.54325.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > He's probably > in the top five intelligence-wise the human species has ever produced. But he never built a car. From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Jan 18 18:42:17 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:42:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? In-Reply-To: References: <7408919F-C6DF-4BC0-A69C-B8E83F5E8643@verizon.net> <9F8EBC2E5DE140838BB8F4886CCB086F@Home> Message-ID: <56580053.20090118174217@pacifier.com> Hello David, the REAL reason (billing issues aside) is that TESLA never believed the MichelsonMorley experiment to be accurate and never accepted Einstien's theories. He was planning on "beaming" electricity through the "aether" which does not exist. Until the time he died, he still believed in aether. I did read an article however on the Tesla pump receiving renewed interest in the '90s as material science is now making it perhaps feasible. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Pump -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" He who sneezes without a handkerchief takes matters into his own hands. From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Sun Jan 18 21:38:18 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:38:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Muntz Jet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497403BA.7010101@sbcglobal.net> Whoa, Bill. We had a Muntz TV when I was a kid in the '50s. Lee P.S.: I was polled by telephone at least six times this past election season. Of course, I live in what was a swing state, Missouri. Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Muntz Jet From: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:22:52 -0800 To: Sold a TV with only seven tubes in it; no frills. ...bill in oregon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_Muntz From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Jan 18 22:31:36 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:31:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC but Interesting read. Real or Bunk? References: <7408919F-C6DF-4BC0-A69C-B8E83F5E8643@verizon.net><9F8EBC2E5DE140838BB8F4886CCB086F@Home> <56580053.20090118174217@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Tesla really was amazing. Not only was he technically capable, but he hung around with some interesting people of his day (Mark Twain, Sara Bernhardt to name a few). I can't believe Holywood has not yet made a decent movie about his life. I think his most significant contribution was the concept of the rotating magnetic field. Where would we be today without the AC motor? His big contribution to the car is the ignition system. Yea, the whole coil/points/plugs thing was his idea. From mhagopian at hoppetool.com Sun Jan 18 23:35:14 2009 From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:35:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: <87a1f55d0901182235g733b6b80yc6a545a25d962c88@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone, as I said I wouldnt make any more posts until I read Vizard. Task complete, and I have learned a whole lot. I still have a few questions that Vizard didnt address. He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, thus allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along with this idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? -- Sincerely, Matt Hagopian From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com Mon Jan 19 00:04:44 2009 From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:04:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Gear Refurbishing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <506308.60754.qm@web45708.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Gang, I saw a listing on Ebay recently showing some transmission gears from a Sprite that had signifiicant damage on some teeth. The listing stated that the gears needed some "Refurbishing". Is it possible to replace broken teeth on gears like that??? Jim, Homer AK From oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com Mon Jan 19 00:12:30 2009 From: oldtimealaskan at yahoo.com (James Lempe) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:12:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Battery charging In-Reply-To: <4973A670.9000408@comcast.net> Message-ID: <107190.93986.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hi Gang, I read recently that storing your car batteries on a concrete floor throug the winter would cause them to loose there charge. Any truth to all that?? Jim , Homer AK From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 00:14:27 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:14:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite brakes In-Reply-To: <4973A670.9000408@comcast.net> References: <4973A670.9000408@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901182314u2f634427n69a6f7dd6a1198da@mail.gmail.com> Geez!! It took you long enough! I've been waiting all this time for you to find that bit I put in there while no one was looking! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > As some of you know, Fr Jack's brakes were giving us headaches the day he > drove the car for the first time. > Stuck ON brakes meant no power on the road and really quick stops if you > let off the gas. > I adjusted the master push rods 6 ways from Sunday and the brakes were good > for a 1/2 mile then lock up. > I kept on adjusting, re-adjusting, and even switched rods all with weird > results. > Yesterday we brought the Holy Sprite to my house, a journey of about 15 > miles and the first push on the pedal went almost to the floor, second push > was fine, 3rd locked up the brakes and they would not release. > But they did release after a few miles only to lock up when I had to stop. > So today I replaced the master with a fresh rebuilt unit, I adjusted the > rods by the book and the brakes are perfect. > No lock up, no to the floor, they are as they should be. > So I figured I messed up the first master when I rebuilt it, flipped seal, > forgot the brake valve or stuck it in the clutch side, whatever, but > something had to be wrong. > I tore apart the master and everything was fine, correct valve in correct > bore, seals perfect, WTF? > Then I see something shiny in the master sitting in the brake side > reservoir. It was a 1/2 x 1/4" piece of aluminum foil with plastic on it, > sort of like a gum wrapper or something, just a scrap sitting between the > cups of the piston blocking the fluid return hole. > First question was how on earth did it get there? Must have been the > rebuilder (me) who never looked. > Now all those weird pedals and all those adjustments made perfect sense. > A movable blockage on the master will do this. In time the fluid weeped > past the tin foil making the brakes work again. > All is well with the brakes now, next is the Holy Smokes engine which > burned 2.5 qts in 118 miles of use. > I have the spare all rebuilt and ready to drop in right after the Newspaper > does their interview and photo shoot > this Tuesday. > > Just one more WEIRD problem that nobody would have ever figured out. > So keep the tin foil out of your master cylinders guys, it's a real PITA. From Miniac7 at aol.com Mon Jan 19 05:23:10 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:23:10 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Texas Bugeye 4 Sale Message-ID: Not mine and I have no affiliation with the car or the owner, but this looks like a pretty honest Mk1 Sprite for sale, found in the Mini Mania classifieds. Drag & drop the following link. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. _Click here: Mini Cooper Parts and Acessories - Mini Mania - MiniMania.com_ (http://www.minimania.com/web/id/8252/Cars4Sale_Detail.cfm) **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 19 05:53:49 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:53:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery charging References: <107190.93986.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <410599E206EB4BA7963AD499655ED7E5@midget> > I read recently that storing your car batteries on a concrete floor throug > the > winter would cause them to loose there charge. Any truth to all that?? Not anymore. the old materials used in the 50s for battery cases had this issue. Stil wouldn't hurt to set it up on a 2x4... David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 19 05:54:17 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 06:54:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump References: <87a1f55d0901182235g733b6b80yc6a545a25d962c88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <54F4E51CC05B4BD58AC7699D33A620B1@midget> > ... He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was > wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, thus > allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along with this > idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? Matt, Welcome back. Please bear in mind that Vizard was primarily writing about Minis. They have a very strange airflow wherein the air comes in through the front grille and is pushed out the LH wheelwell by the engine fan. Not easily improved by an electric. Also means that a Mini fan blade is of NO use to a Spridget because it pushes rather than pulls the air. Electric water pumps are seldom used by anyone but a racer. Most beneficial when the car sits at WOT for extended periods. Not nearly so logical when significant time is spent idling. David Lieb From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 06:11:51 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:11:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0901182235g733b6b80yc6a545a25d962c88@mail.gmail.com> References: <87a1f55d0901182235g733b6b80yc6a545a25d962c88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8c1781040901190511t77794902nc77301632b51f622@mail.gmail.com> If you are only going to run a sprint, then it might be feasible, but otherwise you'll need an alternator to power the pump. So adding a lot of weight (plumbing and water) to free very little HP. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 1:35 AM, Matt Hagopian wrote: > Hello everyone, as I said I wouldnt make any more posts until I read Vizard. > Task complete, and I have learned a whole lot. I still have a few questions > that Vizard didnt address. He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was > wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, thus > allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along with this > idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? > > -- > Sincerely, > > > Matt Hagopian > _______________________________________________ > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 19 07:25:47 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:25:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <54F4E51CC05B4BD58AC7699D33A620B1@midget> References: <87a1f55d0901182235g733b6b80yc6a545a25d962c88@mail.gmail.com> <54F4E51CC05B4BD58AC7699D33A620B1@midget> Message-ID: <70D4E96E-95DF-4258-8673-2811BCF76968@comcast.net> David, I would beg to differ. At idle a regular water pump is not working well at all, slow speed, no air moving over radiator, low water pumping. Electric water pump works all the time (if you want) so that you get great water flow at idle or whenever. That said, I have only seen them on racecars as well but racers are frequently ahead of the curve... ;-) Lester On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:54 AM, David Lieb wrote: >> ... He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was >> wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, >> thus >> allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along >> with this >> idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? > > Matt, snip > > Electric water pumps are seldom used by anyone but a racer. Most > beneficial > when the car sits at WOT for extended periods. Not nearly so logical > when > significant time is spent idling. > David Lieb From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Mon Jan 19 07:51:47 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:51:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <70D4E96E-95DF-4258-8673-2811BCF76968@comcast.net> References: <87a1f55d0901182235g733b6b80yc6a545a25d962c88@mail.gmail.com> <54F4E51CC05B4BD58AC7699D33A620B1@midget> <70D4E96E-95DF-4258-8673-2811BCF76968@comcast.net> Message-ID: <000001c97a45$7465cad0$5d316070$@net> LOTS of the new cars ONLY have electric water pumps specifically for the reason Lester mentioned. Can idle all day and still have the same water flow. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:26 AM Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Water pump David, I would beg to differ. At idle a regular water pump is not working well at all, slow speed, no air moving over radiator, low water pumping. Electric water pump works all the time (if you want) so that you get great water flow at idle or whenever. That said, I have only seen them on racecars as well but racers are frequently ahead of the curve... ;-) Lester On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:54 AM, David Lieb wrote: >> ... He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was >> wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, >> thus >> allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along >> with this >> idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? > > Matt, snip > > Electric water pumps are seldom used by anyone but a racer. Most > beneficial > when the car sits at WOT for extended periods. Not nearly so logical > when > significant time is spent idling. > David Lieb You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.9/1902 - Release Date: 1/19/2009 9:37 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.9/1902 - Release Date: 1/19/2009 9:37 AM From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Jan 19 08:01:31 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:01:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Texas Bugeye 4 Sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497495CB.8050100@frontiernet.net> The seller needs to go back to third grade and sign up for remedial spelling, but the car doesn't look bad. Kate Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: > Not mine and I have no affiliation with the car or the owner, but this looks > like a pretty honest Mk1 Sprite for sale, found in the Mini Mania > classifieds. From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Jan 19 08:02:46 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:02:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0901182235g733b6b80yc6a545a25d962c88@mail.gmail.co m> References: <87a1f55d0901182235g733b6b80yc6a545a25d962c88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <799knl$5dm29j@email.mtu.edu> For more info than you want to know go to http://www.waterpumps.com/. Click on the EMP Stewart pic in the upper right corner. EMP is located in Escanaba, MI (In da U.P. eh) and makes pumps and radiator systems. I see a pump for BMW's on their site. They also make cooling equipment (electric circulating pumps) for heavy equipment. That's all I know about them. Lots of reading with charts and graphs and 8x10 glossies. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From tinydog at snet.net Mon Jan 19 08:03:46 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:03:46 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives Message-ID: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog asked: I am interested in an external hard drive to store data and use as a backup device. What are listers experiences with external hard drives? Any opinions would be appreciated. I was considering this one until I read the 2 user reviews at the bottom. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333087,00.asp Thanks in advance. From ggroiss at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 08:13:37 2009 From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:13:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: I've been using a 500GB Western Digital MyBook for about two years now and have not had any problems. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM, wrote: > tinydog asked: > > I am interested in an external hard drive to store data and use as a backup device. > > What are listers experiences with external hard drives? > > Any opinions would be appreciated. > > I was considering this one until I read the 2 user reviews at the bottom. > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333087,00.asp > > Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ggroiss at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From nlaredbt7 at tbc.net Mon Jan 19 08:30:59 2009 From: nlaredbt7 at tbc.net (Neil Anderson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 09:30:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Texas Bugeye 4 Sale References: Message-ID: What do you expect? He is only graduating from college. Spelling and punctuation aren't skills you need in real life. LOL Neil A. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Bales" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Texas Bugeye 4 Sale > The seller needs to go back to third grade and sign up for remedial > spelling, but the car doesn't look bad. > > Kate > > Miniac7 at aol.com wrote: >> Not mine and I have no affiliation with the car or the owner, but this >> looks like a pretty honest Mk1 Sprite for sale, found in the Mini Mania >> classifieds. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nlaredbt7 at tbc.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cciaffone at verizon.net Mon Jan 19 08:50:45 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:50:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <4974A155.7060300@verizon.net> I have two different types. For the oldest, I bought a cheap (twenty bucks) aluminum housing with a power/USB converter builtin. I installed an old, extra, lying about WD IDE hard drive pulled from an older PC. Works fine. I have been using it to backup old files and to shuttle files to other PCs in other locations. These empty cases are available for either IDE or SATA drives, but be sure to get the right one for your hard drive. I recently bought a BB clearance 750Gb Maxstor OneTouch4 USB external hard drive that comes completely assembled. So far so good. Transfer time ain't all that long and it stores much more data than my earlier one. I have not so far installed nor used the OneTouch software as I mostly cut and paste folders from an internal hard drive to the external hard drive. chuck tinydog at snet.net wrote: > tinydog asked: > > I am interested in an external hard drive to store data and use as a backup device. > > What are listers experiences with external hard drives? From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jan 19 09:27:04 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:27:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: > I am interested in an external hard drive to store data and use as a > backup device. On the recommendation of my daughter who is more knowledgeable, I just bought a Western Digital unit on sale at Target for $80. Since you will not use it much, it is not clear that it is necessary to get a top-rated unit with all bells and whistles. All you really need is for it to be sturdy. A good brand name should provide that. Michael Rowe From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jan 19 09:45:09 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:45:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0901182235g733b6b80yc6a545a25d962c88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <475989.82273.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Matt Hagopian wrote: > wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce > drag, That stuff is for people who don't know how to build engines. Ron From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 19 10:28:04 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:28:04 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite brakes Message-ID: seal from a can of new brake fluid? In a message dated 18/01/2009 21:58:41 GMT Standard Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: It was a 1/2 x 1/4" piece of aluminum foil with plastic on it, sort of like a gum wrapper or something, From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 19 10:35:39 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:35:39 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: I thought he did discuss electric fans though when I spoke to him he wasn't a big fan of them? Remember though his main experience was with the transverse engine A-series in the mini which had a harder time keeping cool than the Spridget (with a standard radiator). Electric water pumps are a fairly recent item to become available for the A-series engine. Note that the current edition of his book was published a decade ago. My own view is that there are better things to spend money on than an electric water pump to make a car go quicker. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 19/01/2009 06:35:26 GMT Standard Time, mhagopian at hoppetool.com writes: Hello everyone, as I said I wouldnt make any more posts until I read Vizard. Task complete, and I have learned a whole lot. I still have a few questions that Vizard didnt address. He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, thus allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along with this idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? -- Sincerely, Matt Hagopian From nases at verizon.net Mon Jan 19 10:36:46 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:36:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery charging In-Reply-To: <107190.93986.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <107190.93986.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: With respect to David's reply I have found that they do lose charge if stored on concrete. I have a marine battery for my ground water sump pump that never held a charge (while on a trickle charger) until I moved it up off of the basement floor. Just my experience. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ On Jan 19, 2009, at 2:12 AM, James Lempe wrote: > Hi Gang, > > I read recently that storing your car batteries on a concrete floor > throug the > winter would cause them to loose there charge. Any truth to all > that?? > > Jim , Homer AK > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nases at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 19 10:38:39 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:38:39 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: David is correct. An engine driven water pump is designed to operate at high effiency at low engine rpm. This is so much the case that high rpm engines benefit from running the pump at a lower speed. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 19/01/2009 14:26:18 GMT Standard Time, oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes: David, I would beg to differ. At idle a regular water pump is not working well at all, slow speed, no air moving over radiator, low water pumping. Electric water pump works all the time (if you want) so that you get great water flow at idle or whenever. That said, I have only seen them on racecars as well but racers are frequently ahead of the curve... ;-) Lester On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:54 AM, David Lieb wrote: >> ... He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was >> wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, >> thus >> allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along >> with this >> idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? > > Matt, snip > > Electric water pumps are seldom used by anyone but a racer. Most > beneficial > when the car sits at WOT for extended periods. Not nearly so logical > when > significant time is spent idling. > David Lieb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 10:47:03 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 11:47:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901190947i20c66652ud1484a7e322c782b@mail.gmail.com> One caution... Hard Drives fail. Ask yourself what happens to your back-up if your back-up hard drive fails? Invariably your back-up image will contain stuff you no longer want stored on your machine and it will be lost. Back-up on DVD is the safest way even though it may be a bit more time consuming initially. If your back-up is incremental it will go quickly after the first time. A lot depends upon how much data you are working with. There are Terabyte drives available... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:03 AM, wrote: > tinydog asked: > > I am interested in an external hard drive to store data and use as a backup > device. > > What are listers experiences with external hard drives? > > Any opinions would be appreciated. > > I was considering this one until I read the 2 user reviews at the bottom. > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333087,00.asp From mhagopian at hoppetool.com Mon Jan 19 11:23:57 2009 From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:23:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87a1f55d0901191023t6bbe8373x7725696fdbee4299@mail.gmail.com> I have a suzuki 50 amp alt already, it is the same size apprx as the sprite alt. but pumps out a few more amps. Im getting mixed responses about electric. So here's my problem.. Right now we have a 14x14x1.5(core) rad with a 6 blade fan on the motor no shroud. It overheats to about 240 when sitting stil and while racing. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:38 PM, wrote: > David is correct. > > An engine driven water pump is designed to operate at high effiency at low > engine rpm. This is so much the case that high rpm engines benefit from > running the pump at a lower speed. > > Regards > > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > In a message dated 19/01/2009 14:26:18 GMT Standard Time, > oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes: > > David, > > I would beg to differ. > > At idle a regular water pump is not working well at all, slow speed, > no air moving over radiator, low water pumping. > > Electric water pump works all the time (if you want) so that you get > great water flow at idle or whenever. > > That said, I have only seen them on racecars as well but racers are > frequently ahead of the curve... ;-) > > Lester > > On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:54 AM, David Lieb wrote: > > >> ... He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was > >> wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, > >> thus > >> allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along > >> with this > >> idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? > > > > Matt, > snip > > > > > Electric water pumps are seldom used by anyone but a racer. Most > > beneficial > > when the car sits at WOT for extended periods. Not nearly so logical > > when > > significant time is spent idling. > > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mhagopian at hoppetool.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Sincerely, Matt Hagopian From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jan 19 11:28:57 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:28:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0901191023t6bbe8373x7725696fdbee4299@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <540690.78050.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Matt Hagopian wrote: > with a 6 blade fan on the motor no shroud. It overheats to > about 240 when > sitting stil and while racing. You've probably already damaged the head. Get the head and block flat and get a Ron Davis radiator. If you're running 240 in both conditions, you're picking flyshit out of pepper with an electric waterpump discussion. Ron From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 19 11:51:48 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:51:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14A0EB5F-DA8E-4354-B7B7-AA3AA864A9E2@comcast.net> HI RPM engines have specific problems with water pumps: The pumps bearings aren't spec'd to run those high revs At high revs many will cavitate and move significant;y less water I agree that using an electric water pump to "gain power" is the wrong way to approach things but to use one for better cooling overall is a good idea, especially the ones with programable features. Lester On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:38 AM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > David is correct. > > An engine driven water pump is designed to operate at high effiency > at low engine rpm. This is so much the case that high rpm engines > benefit from running the pump at a lower speed. > > Regards > > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > In a message dated 19/01/2009 14:26:18 GMT Standard Time, oldsaabguy at comcast.net > writes: > David, > > I would beg to differ. > > At idle a regular water pump is not working well at all, slow speed, > no air moving over radiator, low water pumping. > > Electric water pump works all the time (if you want) so that you get > great water flow at idle or whenever. > > That said, I have only seen them on racecars as well but racers are > frequently ahead of the curve... ;-) > > Lester > > On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:54 AM, David Lieb wrote: > > >> ... He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was > >> wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, > >> thus > >> allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along > >> with this > >> idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? > > > > Matt, > snip > > > > > Electric water pumps are seldom used by anyone but a racer. Most > > beneficial > > when the car sits at WOT for extended periods. Not nearly so logical > > when > > significant time is spent idling. > > David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 19 12:13:33 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:13:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump References: <540690.78050.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1CFB7D821DE845AC87FE6D7159D2CEAE@NilesAD.von.gov> > You've probably already damaged the head. Get the head and block flat and > get a Ron Davis radiator. If you're running 240 in both conditions, you're > picking flyshit out of pepper with an electric waterpump discussion. I agree with Ron, but there could be a whole lot of issues. Lean mixture, retarded timing, bad thermostat, no thermostat, pump cavitation. How far is the fan from the radiator? Without a shroud, that is critical at idle. However, at speed it would be irrelevant. Have you done a plug cut properly? What do they say? David Lieb From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 19 12:18:26 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:18:26 EST Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives Message-ID: I'm agreeing with Jim again! I regularly back up to DVD and the back up DVD is not kept it my house. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 19/01/2009 17:47:25 GMT Standard Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com writes: Back-up on DVD is the safest way even though it may be a bit more time consuming initially. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Jan 19 12:30:53 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:30:53 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: Well Ron is more of a cooling expert than I am! I agree with Ron that you appear to have a problem that's not going to be solved with any water pump unless what you have is broken or seized. You don't say what kind of radiator you have - modern core design or copper/brass or whatever. You don't say if it is vertical or cross flow. You don't say if you have a thermostat or not and if you don't have one and are using a blanking sleeve you don't say if you have blocked off the bypass or not. Have you checked the temperature reading with a different gauge? You don't say what pump you have or what pulley it has on it - have you pulled the pump to see if the impellor is even still attached to it or is it jammed hard against block. Given you have cooling problems at idle and race speeds the rad looks to be the culprit. What is 240 in Centrigrade - about 110C. I've run my engine up to 110 if not 115C momentarily when doing a cooling system test but generally like it below 105C if not 95C. However, I don't think the oil temp has ever been over a 100C (even on a very long dyno pull) and certainly not at the those temps when doing a cooling system test (or on that long dyno pull). Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 19/01/2009 18:29:07 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Matt Hagopian wrote: > with a 6 blade fan on the motor no shroud. It overheats to > about 240 when > sitting stil and while racing. You've probably already damaged the head. Get the head and block flat and get a Ron Davis radiator. If you're running 240 in both conditions, you're picking flyshit out of pepper with an electric waterpump discussion. Ron From tinydog at snet.net Mon Jan 19 12:48:46 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:48:46 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <011920091948.21522.4974D91E000A71EE0000541222230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog clarified I don't think I was completely clear in my original email. I also want am external HD in order to store my data files on an outboard device. In researching it, I see that some offer an option to do true back-up of the internal HD. DVD is not an attractive option for me for several reasons: 1) I do not have DVD burners on my machines, 2) DVD (or CD's) would be as portable as a plug and play HD, 3) AFAIK, to use as a backup medium would not be a true backup of the internal drive(s). Thanks to everyone for their input so far. It is very helpful. -------------- Original message from WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com: -------------- > I'm agreeing with Jim again! I regularly back up to DVD and the back up DVD > is not kept it my house. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > In a message dated 19/01/2009 17:47:25 GMT Standard Time, bmwwxman at gmail.com > writes: > > Back-up on DVD is the safest way even though it may be a bit more time > consuming initially. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 12:00:55 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:00:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <14A0EB5F-DA8E-4354-B7B7-AA3AA864A9E2@comcast.net> References: <14A0EB5F-DA8E-4354-B7B7-AA3AA864A9E2@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901191100p6d634c83k6774d15adcf75a44@mail.gmail.com> I've never really run a hi-rev A-series. But, I know Ron S has. I would tend to listen to what Ron says when it comes to racing Sprites. If electric pumps were good for racing Sprites, he would know. No, he didn't pay me to say good things about him. I just hate to see people try to re-invent the wheel when we have experienced wheel engineers giving good advice all day long. From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jan 19 14:27:32 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:27:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901191100p6d634c83k6774d15adcf75a44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <828965.82547.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 1/19/09, derf wrote: > I've never really run a hi-rev A-series. But, I know > Ron S has. Derf is very gracious. In reality, I've blown up a lot of stuff, so I know what doesn't work, and what hasn't blown up yet generally is pretty good. I'm sure an electric pump and the associated weight and complexity of its motor is a nice thing. What does work just fine on a 7500-8000 RPM Spridget motor is an old style water pump with the cast impeller and a larger diameter pulley (I don't remember the size; it's whatever Mini Mania or Winner's Circle sell). A Ron Davis aluminum radiator is the ultimate insurance (not cheap, but a work of art; mine is an exact copy of the Bugeye vertical flow). Per all the books, my car runs too cold - 160 even on 100 degree days. If the temp gauge hits 190, I know my water pump belt is slipping. I don't have a fan at all. If I have to idle more than 5 or 10 minutes, I shut it down. As David said before, if you're hitting 240 at idle, something is very wrong. And Daniel - my oil temps run 220F to 240F all day long. Ron From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 19 15:00:00 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:00:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <14A0EB5F-DA8E-4354-B7B7-AA3AA864A9E2@comcast.net> Message-ID: Don't overlook the fact that if the water moves too fast, it won't be able to transfer enough heat to the radiator. That's why you need a block-off plate if you run without a thermostat. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 19 15:02:05 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:02:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: .. The newer types have a thermostatic control and will allow whatever speed you need.. they're magic! ;-) Lester On Jan 19, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Don't overlook the fact that if the water moves too fast, it won't > be able > to transfer enough heat to the radiator. That's why you need a block- > off > plate if you run without a thermostat. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 19 15:09:28 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:09:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > back up to DVD I find that the discs I burn have a shelf-life. They don't always work a year or two later. I'm constantly trying to figure out better ways to archive digital music files. They don't age any better than analog tape, which is not very good these days. eSATA ports seem to be the fastest, but some people are having strange problems with degradation and poor sound quality. Nothing today seems to be a stable as forty year old analog tape. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 15:47:28 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:47:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Question on gear shift boot.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0901191447o17cd1476y195a4362eb638a1b@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone have a source for the "draught excluder" that goes under the shift lever gaiter on the 72 on Midgets? Just got a question on this... I wonder of the repro rubber on such an item would be as crappy as the repro rubber we ran into on the Holy Sprite. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 19 15:48:53 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:48:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <828965.82547.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> Just FACTUAL, 'Hopper!!! YOU ARE the best active 'racing' application person the List has!! Well, maybe we should include PPP ???? Anybody know if Flounder is OK ??? He does seem to be MIA?? Ed From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 19 15:50:14 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:50:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <<.. The newer types have a thermostatic control and will allow whatever speed you need.. they're magic!>> Got a link or two, Lester ??? Manufacturer or two ?? From pilotrob at msn.com Mon Jan 19 15:53:05 2009 From: pilotrob at msn.com (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:53:05 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Question on gear shift boot.... Message-ID: Probably. I use spongy gray foam packing under the gator to isolate noise/drafts. Works good, lasts a long time, cheap!! :) CapBob -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 5:47 PM To: Spridgets, Midget/Sprite, bugeye Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Question on gear shift boot.... Does anyone have a source for the "draught excluder" that goes under the shift lever gaiter on the 72 on Midgets? Just got a question on this... I wonder of the repro rubber on such an item would be as crappy as the repro rubber we ran into on the Holy Sprite. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jan 19 17:12:08 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:12:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: I'll second the Western Digital Mybook. Got one for xmas. So far works great. I've also played around with 2.5" harddrives in usb enclosures. The best ones have the optional wall wart. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Groiss" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives > I've been using a 500GB Western Digital MyBook for about two years now > and have not had any problems. From cciaffone at verizon.net Mon Jan 19 17:23:39 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:23:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4975198B.9060604@verizon.net> Hey Billy, I had that same prob with DVDs on which I burned old TV shows. Later they would hang or skip. Then I started burning way down low at about 6x. Have not had a prob since. I think some players are over-sensitive. Billy Zoom wrote: >> back up to DVD >> > I find that the discs I burn have a shelf-life. They don't always work a > year or two later. I'm constantly trying to figure out better ways to > archive digital music files. They don't age any better than analog tape, > which is not very good these days. eSATA ports seem to be the fastest, but > some people are having strange problems with degradation and poor sound > quality. Nothing today seems to be a stable as forty year old analog tape. From cciaffone at verizon.net Mon Jan 19 17:25:34 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:25:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <497519FE.8050103@verizon.net> Re: Maxstor drives. My new Maxstor drive seems to be made by Seagate. Does that affect one's perception of durability?? chuck From herby at herbytoys.com Mon Jan 19 17:27:36 2009 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:27:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I bought a 500G Maxtor NAS about a year ago. It seems to work fine for backups a storage but lately it's been making some nasty *grinding* noises. As I said, it still seems to work okay but I'm thinking of replacing it just in case. I've heard good things about WD from others too (beyond this list) so maybe that's what I'll look into. Anybody use the Buffalo EHD's? We have a couple of 1TB's at work and they've been holding up well for about a year now with daily backups. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - soon on the market) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:12 PM To: tinydog at snet.net Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives I'll second the Western Digital Mybook. Got one for xmas. So far works great. I've also played around with 2.5" harddrives in usb enclosures. The best ones have the optional wall wart. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jan 19 17:36:42 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:36:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <497519FE.8050103@verizon.net> Message-ID: <20090120003645.CBGK16826.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Most major brand hard drives have come a long way through the years. Bottom line is don't move them, especially if they are still moving. Usually these drives spin at 5400 or 7200 rpm when on. Regardless, something will go crunch on them eventually. Sound familiar? If you do have mission critical stuff, regardless of mac or pc, I would advise getting a second drive and mirror the original. In this scenario, you have two drives that act as one. If one drive fails, the other will take over. Creating a ghost image weekly of the drive is nice too. Ghosting is a down and dirty way of making a snapshot of your disk and storing it for later use. You might lose a week of work, but not a couple years. Email me off list if you need more info Chris 66MKIII Brookfield, WI -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of chuck Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 6:26 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives Re: Maxstor drives. My new Maxstor drive seems to be made by Seagate. Does that affect one's perception of durability?? chuck From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 19 17:59:41 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:59:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <497519FE.8050103@verizon.net> Message-ID: > Seagate. I've had good luck with their IDE drives. From twobees at sprynet.com Mon Jan 19 18:06:18 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:06:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: <00e001c97a9b$4e5f2e70$6401a8c0@normoffice> Matt: I'm picking up on this thread a bit late. But, here are my $0.02. You'd have to ask DV why he didn't cover electric pumps. But, the reality is that some race orgs don't allow them on our vintage cars. As for overheating, I had that on my Spridget-engined Turner initially with what was sold as a "race-prepared" motor. First step was to have a shop boil out the engine block & head. Helped a bit. Last year I installed an aluminum drag radiator (Scirocco model) from Griffin Thermal Products in Piedmont, SC. It's just a 13" x 22" 2-core model. But, now I have the reverse problem -- it cools TOO efficiently. I only race the Turner, so don't use a thermostat, just a blanking sleeve. But, have had to block off a section of the radiator to keep it in the 150-degree range. Only time I use the electric fan is when staging. Also in-line with these posts, last year I developed a leak in the water pump. It was one of the original-type cast iron pumps with cast impeller. The replacement one is aluminum with pressed steel impeller. I did some mods to the impeller blades by rounding the edges & then bending the blades so they are at a small angle instead of at 90-degrees to the direction of travel. I don't like it. But, it seems to work well. No evidence of cavitation. But, I'll bet it's there. I find I'm running a lot at 5500 to 6500 rpm so really need a larger pulley for the pump. However, there isn't enough room for the fan belt to clear the thermostat housing if I do that. I have already ground away a good bit of the housing for the belt to clear it, and still treat the outer surface of the belt and the housing with paraffin wax in case the belt wobbles around at speed. I have a head from a 1275 on the 948. So, my water cooling changes are at a standstill for now. Let's see what temp it runs at in hot weather. Next race is Feb 21 & 22 in SC. So, no temp test there. Only cooling mods I had on my '66 MGB that was my daily-driver in Connecticut were an electric fan and triple core radiator. It was the original radiator that I had modified. This was a car that I used in stop-and-go rush-hour traffic (near Cap'n Bob's among other places) as well as raced. Never a problem. Used a thermostat on the street, blanking sleeve when racing. Hope this may have helped anyone with cooling problems. Norm Sippel From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 18:12:07 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:12:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com> I backup all of my home machines using a "Windows Home Server" running mirror 1.5TB drives. Works very well. I also burn DVDs of my important media (pictures, personal work, etc) and keep that off site. Full disclosure mode I work for MS. -g On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:03 AM, wrote: > tinydog asked: > > I am interested in an external hard drive to store data and use as a backup > device. > > What are listers experiences with external hard drives? > > Any opinions would be appreciated. > > I was considering this one until I read the 2 user reviews at the bottom. > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333087,00.asp > > Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Jan 19 18:12:07 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:12:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com> I backup all of my home machines using a "Windows Home Server" running mirror 1.5TB drives. Works very well. I also burn DVDs of my important media (pictures, personal work, etc) and keep that off site. Full disclosure mode I work for MS. -g On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:03 AM, wrote: > tinydog asked: > > I am interested in an external hard drive to store data and use as a backup > device. > > What are listers experiences with external hard drives? > > Any opinions would be appreciated. > > I was considering this one until I read the 2 user reviews at the bottom. > > http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333087,00.asp > > Thanks in advance. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cclabaw at juno.com Mon Jan 19 18:39:40 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:39:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: <20090119.173940.27131.0@webmail21.dca.untd.com> Matt - My '67 is running a bypass sleeve and blanked-off head connection with a 3-row vertical flow radiator. It always ran hot until I installed an oversize'd water pump pully from Mini-Mania. Now it rarely overheats, even in L. A. summers. Clay L. '67 Sprite -- Matt Hagopian wrote: I have a suzuki 50 amp alt already, it is the same size apprx as the sprite alt. but pumps out a few more amps. Im getting mixed responses about electric. So here's my problem.. Right now we have a 14x14x1.5(core) rad with a 6 blade fan on the motor no shroud. It overheats to about 240 when sitting stil and while racing. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:38 PM, wrote: > David is correct. > > An engine driven water pump is designed to operate at high effiency at low > engine rpm. This is so much the case that high rpm engines benefit from > running the pump at a lower speed. > > Regards > > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > In a message dated 19/01/2009 14:26:18 GMT Standard Time, > oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes: > > David, > > I would beg to differ. > > At idle a regular water pump is not working well at all, slow speed, > no air moving over radiator, low water pumping. > > Electric water pump works all the time (if you want) so that you get > great water flow at idle or whenever. > > That said, I have only seen them on racecars as well but racers are > frequently ahead of the curve... ;-) > > Lester > > On Jan 19, 2009, at 6:54 AM, David Lieb wrote: > > >> ... He doesnt address electric waterpumps, I was > >> wondering why... having an electric water pump would reduce drag, > >> thus > >> allowing for more power, anyone have any ideas? Also going along > >> with this > >> idea, why doesnt he recomend an electric fan? > > > > Matt, > snip > > > > > Electric water pumps are seldom used by anyone but a racer. Most > > beneficial > > when the car sits at WOT for extended periods. Not nearly so logical > > when > > significant time is spent idling. > > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mhagopian at hoppetool.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Sincerely, Matt Hagopian You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Click now to find out which media club is right for you. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3LzuDofAjFrCR98aod6A04Vv9eR 3s6crZdeSLGH5pOyKDms/ From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 19 19:02:19 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:02:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> Yeah Herb and ONE word: DON'T !!! Just latter part of week and 5 - 6 hours trying to get one to work. Their "tech" area SUCKS !! End result?? RETURNED. POS, IMHO. Going to install a W.D. 500GB internal in just a little while. Almost same $s. Ed From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Jan 19 19:24:28 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:24:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Gear Refurbishing In-Reply-To: <506308.60754.qm@web45708.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <506308.60754.qm@web45708.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <497535DC.2030509@comcast.net> James Lempe wrote: > The listing stated that the gears > needed some "Refurbishing". Is it possible to replace broken teeth on gears > like that??? > Anything is possible but having teeth welded to a gear doesn't sound like a good idea. New or good used gears are available. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Mon Jan 19 21:34:27 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 22:34:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ?? Message-ID: Sorry Gents, Vern PLEASE drop me a note ASAP !! Ed PS: Or anybody with his eMail Addy!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 20 07:29:17 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:29:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov> NFI and all that, but Frys.com has a WD 500GB external drive on sale for $79.99 right now... From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 08:41:28 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:41:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling Message-ID: <37dc82d40901200741g87fda45mc4a7a2c62b99e426@mail.gmail.com> I run a high mix of purified water against coolant which seems to help. Not sure about Redline "Water Wetter." I used to add it, but was not able to really verify the results. My car with stock radiator was pulling up to the 220, and at times above temps. My son had an old Suxuki Swift that was not running. I grabbed the radiator from it (similiar to a GEO Metro) and installed it with the electric fan. I had to trim the tips of the fan blades as they were hitting the steering rack. I also added a thermostat to indicate when I want the fan to turn on. I forget where I found the thermostat, although I think I recall that I actually bought it from Auto Zone. With blanking sleeve, I am also running too cool, 160 in the winter and never over 170 in the summer, even sitting in 100 degree heat at stop lights. I remember something about small block Chevys originally running around 160? Of course, different animal. My engine (1275 with OER like Weber, headers, Pertronix coil and electronic unit in a Mallory Dual Point). It warms up fast and runs as smooth as silk with a nice little burble on downshifts coming out of the Monza exhaust that I over paid for via Moss Motors. I also run have a 1974 Midget rib case with a first gear that is too noisy. *Here is a question if you have read this far! My only source of engine breathing is via a air vented filtered oil cap on a aftermarket valve cover. I guess that I should be running a second source of breathing off the blank plate that sits where the old lever type fuel pump used to reside? I cut a tube to weld onto the plate - after I would drill a hole in the plate, but have not gotten to it yet. I would run a hose from the tube upward to a can. * Kirk 59BE From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 09:08:56 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:08:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Computer Compensates for oil Burning Message-ID: <37dc82d40901200808n5029476cqe1e7af948fa371e3@mail.gmail.com> I have seen it with my son in laws Nissan that had the bum 2.4 engine where the cats were placed too close to the heads. Overheating got the best of it by 100k miles. No smoke from the exhaust, although he was burning a LOT of oil. I was told that the computer changes the mixture after reading the oil in the cylinders, hence why there was no smoke? Kirk 59BE From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Tue Jan 20 09:27:52 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:27:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Computer Compensates for oil Burning Message-ID: <1dd6701c97b1c$0ab69b50$056a010a@mail2world.com> I suppose it's possible. The O2 sensor is the main feedback mechanism. Logically, adding oil to the charge would "richen" the mixture, and the O2 would lean out to compensate. Still, it probably only works up to a point. I finally did the valve seals in my Tercel when I went for inspection, and the tech revved the engine and fogged the line of cars behind me! :O -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Kirk Hargreaves [khargreaves2 at gmail.com] Sent: 1/20/2009 11:09:56 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Engine Computer Compensates for oil Burning I have seen it with my son in laws Nissan that had the bum 2.4 engine where the cats were placed too close to the heads. Overheating got the best of it by 100k miles. No smoke from the exhaust, although he was burning a LOT of oil. I was told that the computer changes the mixture after reading the oil in the cylinders, hence why there was no smoke? Kirk 59BE _______________________________________________ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 20 10:06:50 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:06:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901200741g87fda45mc4a7a2c62b99e426@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <531550.22514.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Regarding the breather "can" you mentioned mounting (yes, I read that far). I bought a small flat top cone-shaped breather element from Advance for about $8.00. I mounted it to the tube from the stock valve cover, but it should just as easily work in the position you mentioned. It has a pleated filter element covered by mesh and looks kind of like a miniature cold-air intake. It filter element comes in various colors, so I got a red one to match the stock engine color. This weekend I saw that Ryan had mounted the exact same filter to his, only he chose the blue one that more closely goes with his car color. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jan 20 10:44:29 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:44:29 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: If you can't fit a bigger water pump pulley can you fit a smaller crank pulley? If you use the 2 part Cooper S damper you wouldn't compromise damping. Or if you are using the tin crank pulley you could get a solid aluminum one and turn down the section the belt runs in. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/01/2009 01:06:36 GMT Standard Time, twobees at sprynet.com writes: so really need a larger pulley for the pump. However, there isn't enough room for the fan belt to clear the thermostat housing if I do that. I have already ground away a good bit of the housing for the belt to clear it, and still treat the outer surface of the belt and the housing with paraffin wax in case the belt wobbles around at speed. I have a head from a 1275 on the 948. From twobees at sprynet.com Tue Jan 20 11:06:42 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:06:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003d01c97b29$da64bb40$6401a8c0@normoffice> You're right. And, "shrinking" the size of the cast aluminum crank pulley is one of the future projects along with installation of a mini alternator. Combined, they may allow a larger water pump pulley. All this has to wait until after the next couple of races. Norm -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 12:44 PM To: twobees at sprynet.com; mhagopian at hoppetool.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Water pump If you can't fit a bigger water pump pulley can you fit a smaller crank pulley? If you use the 2 part Cooper S damper you wouldn't compromise damping. Or if you are using the tin crank pulley you could get a solid aluminum one and turn down the section the belt runs in. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/01/2009 01:06:36 GMT Standard Time, twobees at sprynet.com writes: so really need a larger pulley for the pump. However, there isn't enough room for the fan belt to clear the thermostat housing if I do that. I have already ground away a good bit of the housing for the belt to clear it, and still treat the outer surface of the belt and the housing with paraffin wax in case the belt wobbles around at speed. I have a head from a 1275 on the 948. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 20 11:23:53 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:23:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com> <8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry> David, is there any difference, other than size, between the larger case hard drives like this "My Book" unit vs the smaller ones like "My Passport"? I am looking for a portable unit to bring back and forth between home and my office, but am wondering if there is any compromise when stuffing the same capacity into a smaller package. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives NFI and all that, but Frys.com has a WD 500GB external drive on sale for $79.99 right now... You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 20 11:25:07 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:25:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <852673.56454.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 1/20/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > says once you get much over 85-90C you see a significant > power drop off. Well then, I'm really glad my gauge doesn't read Celsius. I was told 200-230F is ideal with Redline synthetic, but I'll check Stapleton's book. I have the 13 row cooler. Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 20 11:25:13 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:25:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <903830.20926.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 1/20/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > says once you get much over 85-90C you see a significant > power drop off. Well then, I'm really glad my gauge doesn't read Celsius. I was told 200-230F is ideal with Redline synthetic, but I'll check Stapleton's book. I have the 13 row cooler. Ron From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 20 11:55:42 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:55:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com> <8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov> <699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry> Message-ID: <213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov> > David, is there any difference, other than size, between the larger case > hard drives like this "My Book" unit vs the smaller ones like "My > Passport"? > I am looking for a portable unit to bring back and forth between home and > my > office, but am wondering if there is any compromise when stuffing the same > capacity into a smaller package. Personally, I would suggest that you might be better off using a pair of the USB flash drives. They aren't perfect either (hence the "pair"), but they have no moving parts to fail and 32GB is generally enough for data transportation. If I were going to use a drive like that, I would lean towards the WD My Book line. Hard drives do generate a lot of heat still and a bigger case translates into better temperature control. David Lieb From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jan 20 12:26:22 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:26:22 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: The oil can cope with the higher temps and maybe some engines don't lose power. I only know that my dyno guy who does a lot of Minis and Spridgets told me about the oil temp related power drop. He races a Mini and still wins even though he is about 68 years old. What does David Anton at APT say?? I have a 16 row cooler with a thermostat on my road car. Weslake-Monza In a message dated 20/01/2009 18:25:33 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: --- On Tue, 1/20/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > says once you get much over 85-90C you see a significant > power drop off. Well then, I'm really glad my gauge doesn't read Celsius. I was told 200-230F is ideal with Redline synthetic, but I'll check Stapleton's book. I have the 13 row cooler. Ron From peter at nosimport.com Tue Jan 20 12:35:56 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:35:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200901201135445.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 01:26 PM 1/20/2009, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: >The oil can cope with the higher temps and maybe some engines don't lose >power. I only know that my dyno guy who does a lot of Minis and >Spridgets told >me about the oil temp related power drop. He races a Mini and still wins >even though he is about 68 years old. ============== He must be very fast! Or the Min's very slow.......... Ed From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Jan 20 12:36:32 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:36:32 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Oil temps Re: Water pump Message-ID: The only place I can find F and C temps in the same place is the Stapleton book. I do have a formula for working out some place...... 212F or 100C is supposedly optimum but on the high side according to my dyno guy. 230F is 110C Vizard's book says 'most instances' 210-220F which seems high to me. Vizard also says 175F 65C is too cold and I'd agree with that So what is 95C in F ? Weslake-Monza1330 In a message dated 20/01/2009 19:26:22 GMT Standard Time, WeslakeMonza1330 writes: The oil can cope with the higher temps and maybe some engines don't lose power. I only know that my dyno guy who does a lot of Minis and Spridgets told me about the oil temp related power drop. He races a Mini and still wins even though he is about 68 years old. What does David Anton at APT say?? I have a 16 row cooler with a thermostat on my road car. Weslake-Monza In a message dated 20/01/2009 18:25:33 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: --- On Tue, 1/20/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > says once you get much over 85-90C you see a significant > power drop off. Well then, I'm really glad my gauge doesn't read Celsius. I was told 200-230F is ideal with Redline synthetic, but I'll check Stapleton's book. I have the 13 row cooler. Ron From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Tue Jan 20 12:38:03 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:38:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil temps Re: Water pump Message-ID: 203F >From http://www.onlineconversion.com/temperature.htm -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: 1/20/2009 2:37:32 PM To: soavero at yahoo.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Oil temps Re: Water pump The only place I can find F and C temps in the same place is the Stapleton book. I do have a formula for working out some place...... 212F or 100C is supposedly optimum but on the high side according to my dyno guy. 230F is 110C Vizard's book says 'most instances' 210-220F which seems high to me. Vizard also says 175F 65C is too cold and I'd agree with that So what is 95C in F ? Weslake-Monza1330 In a message dated 20/01/2009 19:26:22 GMT Standard Time, WeslakeMonza1330 writes: The oil can cope with the higher temps and maybe some engines don't lose power. I only know that my dyno guy who does a lot of Minis and Spridgets told me about the oil temp related power drop. He races a Mini and still wins even though he is about 68 years old. What does David Anton at APT say?? I have a 16 row cooler with a thermostat on my road car. Weslake-Monza In a message dated 20/01/2009 18:25:33 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: --- On Tue, 1/20/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > says once you get much over 85-90C you see a significant > power drop off. Well then, I'm really glad my gauge doesn't read Celsius. I was told 200-230F is ideal with Redline synthetic, but I'll check Stapleton's book. I have the 13 row cooler. Ron _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 20 12:41:28 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:41:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil temps Re: Water pump References: Message-ID: <1234CB6B0CBC4613B14516B3303EEA8C@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: 65C is too cold and I'd agree with that So what is 95C in F ? Weslake-Monza1330 ============================= Multiply C degrees by 1.8 and add 32. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 20 13:13:11 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:13:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: They all work better if you use a SATA port. That's the protocol the drives themselves use. USB or Firewire ports have to convert data to the SATA protocol. Going straight ATA is much faster. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 13:30:54 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:30:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget 50th Venue Proposals Message-ID: <43840a7e0901201230h6df655b0yefef027aca5088ad@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, The volunteers for "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" are please do announce that venue proposal forms for the Midget Golden Anniversary are now available online at: http://www.starrtech.net/~jimj/Midget50th/Venueproposal.html We expect to have at least 5 proposals for the big event in 2011. More are certainly welcome if you are interested! From the above link you can download a PDF proposal form and mail it in or you can download an MS Word form and email it in. A group of 10 volunteers (people you all know well) will then decide which venue to go with. The deadline for proposals is March 15th, 2009 and the selection should be made by April 1st, 2009. As the proposals come in, they will be posted to the above page so that you can both review them and make comments to the selection group via email. -- Cheers!! Jim Sprite-Midget Club USA From shop at justbrits.com Tue Jan 20 13:37:09 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 14:37:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ?? In-Reply-To: <4975DA11.1010708@srvinet.com> Message-ID: <> Got him folks, THANKS !! Ed From cclabaw at juno.com Tue Jan 20 15:30:09 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:30:09 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: <20090120.143009.15054.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> Dan I think that there are alternative thermostat housings (like the one that came on the '67 1275) that allow you to use the bigger pully without having clearance problems. Clay L. '67 Sprite -- WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: If you can't fit a bigger water pump pulley can you fit a smaller crank pulley? If you use the 2 part Cooper S damper you wouldn't compromise damping. Or if you are using the tin crank pulley you could get a solid aluminum one and turn down the section the belt runs in. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 20/01/2009 01:06:36 GMT Standard Time, twobees at sprynet.com writes: so really need a larger pulley for the pump. However, there isn't enough room for the fan belt to clear the thermostat housing if I do that. I have already ground away a good bit of the housing for the belt to clear it, and still treat the outer surface of the belt and the housing with paraffin wax in case the belt wobbles around at speed. I have a head from a 1275 on the 948. You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Store more stuff with a space saving space bag. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2qRAxniFl7aXRlEOsD9RyzUoEJ9 JmPI9jfuF8ZO6BY91hV6/ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 20 18:02:13 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:02:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <903830.20926.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <903830.20926.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron, Have you forgotten who WeslakeMonza1330 is????? :-) Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto --- On Tue, 1/20/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > > > says once you get much over 85-90C you see a significant > > power drop off. > > Well then, I'm really glad my gauge doesn't read Celsius. > > I was told 200-230F is ideal with Redline synthetic, but I'll check Stapleton's book. I have the 13 row cooler. > > Ron _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jan 20 18:47:08 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:47:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901200741g87fda45mc4a7a2c62b99e426@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901200741g87fda45mc4a7a2c62b99e426@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49767E9C.1070502@comcast.net> I am also running a Metro radiator but my fan blades cleared the rack. Mine runs at 170 all the time and I have the adjustable fan switch. As for breathing, I have a stock 1275 PCV valve to the valve cover and the timing cover is vented to atmosphere. My engine needs the positive ventilation. Other 1275s I have did not need the PCV and are just vented to atmosphere. Each engine is different. If you are blowing out oil, add the extra vent, if you still blow oil, add the PCV. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 18:46:44 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 17:46:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: References: <903830.20926.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901201746y2c89ba0bjebee329313b2c477@mail.gmail.com> I haven't.... Herb On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:02 PM, brian S wrote: > Ron, > > Have you forgotten who WeslakeMonza1330 is????? > :-) > > Brian S. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 20 18:59:16 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:59:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump References: <903830.20926.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10901201746y2c89ba0bjebee329313b2c477@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >> Have you forgotten who WeslakeMonza1330 is????? Sure, it is Daniel1312 with another 18cc and a fancy valve cover that adds 2.5hp ;-) From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Jan 20 20:29:01 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:29:01 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <20090120.143009.15054.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> References: <20090120.143009.15054.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:30 PM, cclabaw at juno.com wrote: I think that there are alternative thermostat housings (like the one that cameon the '67 1275) that allow you to use the bigger pully without having clearance problems. The 67 1275 had a downflow radiator and the T-stat housing pointed in the opposite direction... The smog model spridgets had the air recirculation pump mounted on the ear of the T-stat housing so they had to point it the other way. They went to the crossflow radiator then too. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From dwramsey at att.net Tue Jan 20 20:31:10 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:31:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil temps Re: Water pump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090121033129.62680187873@autox.team.net> Unit conversions Temp(F)=9/5Temp(C)+32 Temp(C)=5/9Temp(F)-32 In your case 203F Crash So what is 95C in F ? Weslake-Monza1330 From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Tue Jan 20 20:37:54 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:37:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Sprite Accessory In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090121033756.PAQD3899.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Hi all- eBay always brings out odd things on Sprite searches. Check out auction # 220345008761 Or tinyurl if you'd prefer http://tinyurl.com/99uomq Think it's authentic? Kidding! Chris From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jan 20 20:50:06 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:50:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Sprite Accessory In-Reply-To: <20090121033756.PAQD3899.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <20090121033756.PAQD3899.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <1885920945.20090120195006@pacifier.com> Hello Chris, Bud light was first created in 1982... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "Let's all play an A, a C sharp, and an E," cried Tom's band with one accord. From fastvee at yahoo.com Wed Jan 21 06:19:47 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 05:19:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: <309736.3356.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> When you install a larger water pump pulley, sometimes there is a clearance problem between the underside of the cylinder head and the pulley, and the head must be ground for clearance. Mostly race applications where the block deck and head are planed excessively. There is plenty of clearance between the pulley and thermostat housing. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Tue, 1/20/09, cclabaw at juno.com wrote: I think that there are alternative thermostat housings (like the one that came on the '67 1275) that allow you to use the bigger pully without having clearance problems. From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jan 21 07:50:56 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:50:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil temps Re: Water pump In-Reply-To: <20090121033129.62680187873@autox.team.net> References: <20090121033129.62680187873@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <091469FB64A54E3AABE6966A1507B9A5@Home> > Unit conversions Temp(F)=9/5Temp(C)+32 > Temp(C)=5/9Temp(F)-32 If you need to figure this out on your own sometime, remember that freezing to boiling is 32 to 212 degrees F and 0 to 100 degrees C. 212 minus 32 is 180 degrees, so 180 F degrees are 100 C degrees, or 18 are 10, or 9 are 5. Then you must add or subtract 32 for the different zero point. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jan 21 07:59:25 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:59:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Sprite Accessory In-Reply-To: <20090121033756.PAQD3899.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <20090121033756.PAQD3899.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <1721314A534047D5B6065613E4B0C20A@Home> > eBay always brings out odd things on Sprite searches. Check out auction # > 220345008761 I was under the impression that our old British cars were not designed to run on modern beers, and really should use Bud Heavy or better. So if you have no alternative, you should consider an alcohol additive, which you can buy at any liquor store. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jan 21 08:17:34 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:17:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Oil temps Re: Water pump In-Reply-To: <091469FB64A54E3AABE6966A1507B9A5@Home> References: <20090121033129.62680187873@autox.team.net> <091469FB64A54E3AABE6966A1507B9A5@Home> Message-ID: <69FA1DAF31DB46D88C7F2C3DD0AF9158@Home> Whoops! We both got it wrong. It should be Temp(C) = 5/9[Temp(F)-32] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Oil temps Re: Water pump >> Unit conversions Temp(F)=9/5Temp(C)+32 >> Temp(C)=5/9Temp(F)-32 > > If you need to figure this out on your own sometime, remember that > freezing to boiling is 32 to 212 degrees F and 0 to 100 degrees C. 212 > minus 32 is 180 degrees, so 180 F degrees are 100 C degrees, or 18 are 10, > or 9 are 5. Then you must add or subtract 32 for the different zero point. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jan 21 10:41:24 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:41:24 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: I think that Norm means the thermost housing section on the head casting itself Weslake-Monza 1330 n a message dated 20/01/2009 22:32:01 GMT Standard Time, cclabaw at juno.com writes: Dan I think that there are alternative thermostat housings (like the one that came on the '67 1275) that allow you to use the bigger pully without having clearance problems. Clay L. '67 Sprite From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jan 21 10:42:43 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:42:43 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: He's anonymous as far as possible..... In a message dated 21/01/2009 01:46:58 GMT Standard Time, froggi60 at gmail.com writes: > Have you forgotten who WeslakeMonza1330 is????? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jan 21 10:46:37 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:46:37 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: Except the UK models without the smog pump had an aluminium alloy rather than cast iron housing that more people ought to retro fit on account of the smog casting having a redundant bracket. In fact there is one part number and 2 castings for the aluminium crossflow housing which is a good reason all your concours types ought to read this stuff in tuning books. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 21/01/2009 03:29:16 GMT Standard Time, cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com writes: The smog model spridgets had the air recirculation pump mounted on the ear of the T-stat housing so they had to point it the other way. They went to the crossflow radiator then too. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 10:48:41 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:48:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling In-Reply-To: <49767E9C.1070502@comcast.net> References: <37dc82d40901200741g87fda45mc4a7a2c62b99e426@mail.gmail.com> <49767E9C.1070502@comcast.net> Message-ID: <37dc82d40901210948j771b0449w68492b0383586eb5@mail.gmail.com> Thanks to Frank, David Booker and David Lieb for the response to me re: engine breathing. Although my oil seems to be contained, I plan to add an extra breather from the blanking plate (mechanical fuel pump plate) just for added measure. I think I will buy one of those energy drinks that look like a can of Nitro and run the hose to it. (I will plan to empty the can first). I also plan to up my engine temps with a 185 thermostat, makes sense (note from David Leib regarding Vizard indicating 200F to be the best fuel economy, thus effeciency). I also need to change the position of my thermostat switch to my electric fan as I know that it is currently adjusted to come on too early. Kirk 59BE On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I am also running a Metro radiator but my fan blades cleared the rack. > Mine runs at 170 all the time and I have the adjustable fan switch. > As for breathing, I have a stock 1275 PCV valve to the valve cover and the > timing cover is vented to atmosphere. > My engine needs the positive ventilation. > Other 1275s I have did not need the PCV and are just vented to atmosphere. > Each engine is different. If you are blowing out oil, add the extra vent, > if you still blow oil, add the PCV. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 10:49:42 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:49:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Not really anonymous, but damn proud of his valve cover. I think he is one of those that builds his engine around his bolt on accessories. But since I have never met him, I can't be sure. ;^P Brad On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:42 AM, wrote: > He's anonymous as far as possible..... > > In a message dated 21/01/2009 01:46:58 GMT Standard Time, > froggi60 at gmail.com > writes: > > > Have you forgotten who WeslakeMonza1330 is????? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 21 11:04:58 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:04:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump References: Message-ID: <968AB4AD3BDF4E95BF2AAE2B52423BB0@NilesAD.von.gov> > Except the UK models without the smog pump had an aluminium alloy rather > than cast iron housing that more people ought to retro fit on account of > the > smog casting having a redundant bracket. In fact there is one part number > and 2 > castings for the aluminium crossflow housing which is a good reason all > your > concours types ought to read this stuff in tuning books. Like the one that has just come out with a new edition (I hope someone proofed the English/Metric conversions) that is not yet available on Amazon? Doesn't seem to have appeared in the club library yet. David Lieb From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 11:05:24 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:05:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Best "Rat Car?" Message-ID: <37dc82d40901211005k6140a0b6hab18b0cc873bd9d5@mail.gmail.com> As Fender now makes (some of their most expensive Custom Shop guitars) in pre-worn condition, the look of a guitar that has paid it's dues. . . (I am not sure what that has to do with anything). However, as the Harley meets always have a "Rat Bike" category in their bike shows. This is a bike that is very rough looking. . We could also have a "Rat Spridget" category for the most relic looking condition Spridget? (That way I could bring my 59 Bug Eye with it's Earl Scheib, "Any car, any colour" yellow paint job). Just a thought, but I guess most of the folks on this list have nice looking cars! Kirk 59 Bug E. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 21 11:11:21 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:11:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Best "Rat Car?" References: <37dc82d40901211005k6140a0b6hab18b0cc873bd9d5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6E06FE901910431CBE875DC366E2447C@NilesAD.von.gov> > Just a thought, but I guess most of the folks on this list have nice > looking > cars! Quite a few of us have at least one Spridget that would not fit that description. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jan 21 11:18:40 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:18:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Redline Synthetic Message-ID: <37dc82d40901211018r5722c0aek1094a78da2c2c6f0@mail.gmail.com> I used Redline in my Harley before the motor company, who at first advised against synthetics came out with their own brand of synthetic. (They wanted to bring synthetic users back in order to keep selling "Harley oil)." I have been told by the owner of Redline (the factory is near my town) that synthetic is basically the same type of oil that we have used for years, other than it is broken down to an even ten chain molocule structure which greatly resists breakdown and heat. And then of course with the high end products such as Redline or Amsoil, there are all the additives that are said to go a step beyond the stuff you buy at the auto parts store. I have been using Rotella with the ZDP (I think it is ZDP) additive. Does Redline also include enough of this additive? I guess so. . . . . Kirk 59 BE PS I have a 948 engine sitting on the side of my house. It has 68k miles on it. Wonder if I should put it on eBay or if there would be any interest in it? It turns over, in decent shape - but of course the new owner would most likely want to re-build it and maybe turn it into a race motor. I am not sure as to how I would ship this thing? I could crate it and ship via Greyhound which I hear is the cheapest way to go? From fastvee at yahoo.com Wed Jan 21 11:20:25 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:20:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: <89503.42405.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> David, I received my copy from Amazon last week. I'm proof reading it now! John Fogelsville, PA --- On Wed, 1/21/09, David Lieb wrote: From: David Lieb Like the one that has just come out with a new edition (I hope someone proofed the English/Metric conversions) that is not yet available on Amazon? Doesn't seem to have appeared in the club library yet. David Lieb _______________________________________________ From twobees at sprynet.com Wed Jan 21 11:29:07 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:29:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c97bf6$26cbee00$6401a8c0@normoffice> Exactly. It's the section of the head casting that is in the way. Which is exacerbated by the RHD steering shaft. The only way to get more clearance for the generator, or soon to be mini-alternator, would be to add a couple of u-joints to the steering shaft. Which would actually make it safer in the event of a straight-in crash. But, add complications. You can get an idea of what I'm up against if you go to the Turner Web site ( http://www.turnersportscars.co.uk/ ) The look for 30/206 under "Photos by Chassis Number." The second photo shows the engine compartment before the new radiator install. The "cap" part of the housing is easily swung around for clearance, or in the case of my Turner to align with the "plumber's nightmare" of hoses to/from the radiator. Norm -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:41 PM To: cclabaw at juno.com Cc: twobees at sprynet.com; mhagopian at hoppetool.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Water pump I think that Norm means the thermost housing section on the head casting itself Weslake-Monza 1330 n a message dated 20/01/2009 22:32:01 GMT Standard Time, cclabaw at juno.com writes: Dan I think that there are alternative thermostat housings (like the one that came on the '67 1275) that allow you to use the bigger pully without having clearance problems. Clay L. '67 Sprite From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jan 21 11:29:14 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:29:14 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump Message-ID: I heard the author had some feedback from Ron and some guy in Chigago that put him straight on the couple of errors that were in his last book regarding temp conversions.... In a message dated 21/01/2009 18:05:12 GMT Standard Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: Like the one that has just come out with a new edition (I hope someone proofed the English/Metric conversions) that is not yet available on Amazon? Doesn't seem to have appeared in the club library yet. David Lieb From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jan 21 11:42:00 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:42:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Redline Synthetic In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901211018r5722c0aek1094a78da2c2c6f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901211018r5722c0aek1094a78da2c2c6f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1821E5D4B30A4812B03BDD3455A1C077@Home> > I have been using Rotella with the ZDP (I think it is ZDP) additive. I read somewhere that Rotella had to reduce the amount of ZDDP in diesel oil in 2007. Redline break-in additive appears to be the easiest/cheapest way to get the old levels of ZDDP in a modern oil. I know of no reason not to use it, as we do not have catalytic converters. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Wed Jan 21 11:54:04 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:54:04 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Best "Rat Car?" Message-ID: <012120091854.19216.49776F4C000867B600004B102216551406000001020E0D9A05D2020E979D@comcast.net> Just got rid of my earl scheib paint job last month. went with a more professional paint shop....MAACO. At least when they were done the chrome was chrome colored and not blue like the PO earl scheib work: blue bumbers, door sills, windows, lights....... Actually turned out really nice. there were a couple of spots that my bodywork showed so they had me bring it back when I got the time and redid it for just the cost of paint. -------------- Original message -------------- From: Kirk Hargreaves > As Fender now makes (some of their most expensive Custom Shop guitars) in > pre-worn condition, the look of a guitar that has paid it's dues. . . (I am > not sure what that has to do with anything). However, as the Harley > meets always have a "Rat Bike" category in their bike shows. This is a bike > that is very rough looking. . > > We could also have a "Rat Spridget" category for the most relic looking > condition Spridget? > > (That way I could bring my 59 Bug Eye with it's Earl Scheib, "Any car, any > colour" yellow paint job). > > Just a thought, but I guess most of the folks on this list have nice looking > cars! > > Kirk > 59 Bug E. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Jan 21 11:57:14 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:57:14 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Turner Message-ID: I never knew that Turners were made in Wolverhampton (actually not far from the office and I pased through on the train Yesterday on the way to Telford). I think Sunbeam's were made in Wolverhampton. I'll spend some more time on that website when I don't have a bath going cold... I've seen car 61/456 which is now a lime/mustard colour at Shelsley Walsh hillclimb on many occasions but have never got to scrutineer the car or even look under the bonnet (it must be a well sorted guy as he never does anything to it at meetings other than drive it). The guy that competes with it can really drive and it always extremely smooth and extremely quick climbing the hill. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 21/01/2009 18:29:35 GMT Standard Time, twobees at sprynet.com writes: Exactly. It's the section of the head casting that is in the way. Which is exacerbated by the RHD steering shaft. The only way to get more clearance for the generator, or soon to be mini-alternator, would be to add a couple of u-joints to the steering shaft. Which would actually make it safer in the event of a straight-in crash. But, add complications. You can get an idea of what I'm up against if you go to the Turner Web site ( _http://www.turnersportscars.co.uk/_ (http://www.turnersportscars.co.uk/) ) The look for 30/206 under "Photos by Chassis Number." The second photo shows the engine compartment before the new radiator install. The "cap" part of the housing is easily swung around for clearance, or in the case of my Turner to align with the "plumber's nightmare" of hoses to/from the radiator. Norm -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:41 PM To: cclabaw at juno.com Cc: twobees at sprynet.com; mhagopian at hoppetool.com; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Water pump I think that Norm means the thermost housing section on the head casting itself Weslake-Monza 1330 n a message dated 20/01/2009 22:32:01 GMT Standard Time, cclabaw at juno.com writes: Dan I think that there are alternative thermostat housings (like the one that came on the '67 1275) that allow you to use the bigger pully without having clearance problems. Clay L. '67 Sprite From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jan 21 12:41:54 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:41:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <89503.42405.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <547769.77973.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 1/21/09, fastvee wrote: > David, > I received my copy from Amazon last week. I'm proof > reading it now! There was an error in a previous version. There was mention of a temperature >>>delta<<< and the author did not simply use 1.8X as the conversion factor (as previously mentioned, the 32 is just to account for the zero point). But I got an autographed copy, so I didn't stress on it too much. Ron From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jan 21 13:34:26 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:34:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 Exhaust Gasket (manifold to pipe, non catalyst) Up For Grabs Message-ID: <1107D394C42349728BA0B63A7C604069@psych.washington.edu> I've got a new exhaust gasket (manifold to pipe) for a non catalyst 1500 if anyone on the list would like it. I bought it for my '76 Midget but couldn't use it. Just because the PO removed the cat doesn't mean you need the non cat gasket. Lesson learned. So if anyone wants this let me know and I'll drop it in the mail. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Jan 21 14:35:35 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:35:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads Message-ID: MiniMania offers Longman heads for 11-stud blocks that "will fit 9-stud blocks." I assume they are A+ heads, but I can't find any information on this difference. Also, alloy heads claim a different internal shaping that increases flow by 30% with standard valves. All are expensive. Any advice? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jan 21 15:37:40 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:37:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Odd Sprite Accessory In-Reply-To: <20090121033756.PAQD3899.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <20090121173740.Y9Q52.3532048.root@mp11> Would make a cool overflow bottle although glass. ---- Chris Manuel wrote: > Hi all- > > eBay always brings out odd things on Sprite searches. Check out auction # > 220345008761 > > Or tinyurl if you'd prefer http://tinyurl.com/99uomq > > Think it's authentic? > > Kidding! > > Chris > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Wed Jan 21 15:39:14 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:39:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Healey Sportsboat for sale Message-ID: <004901c97c19$18bf0bd0$4a3d2370$@com> I'm selling my Healey Sportsboat. It has the inboard, Healey Marine 55 motor, and a trailer. I will be taking offers on this rare piece of Healey history. If you know of someone interested, please pass this along. I have the ability to store the boat for the purchaser if need be. Boat is one hour north of Milwaukee. Pictures, as found http://www.thicko.com/marine.htm. There was also an article about many years ago in the AHCA Chatter. This was the first Healey boat to surface (pun intended) in the states. The boat is fairly complete. Engine is out. All the expensive structural hull restoration was done by a wooden boat restoration specialist, and the inner hull is painted to original red color. The boat also had work done on the teak plywood deck. There is a new, correct windshield for the boat, and somewhere (I hope) I have the interior panels that I had reupholstered. Current pictures can be provided. I am offering the boat here first before placing it on Ebay, or something similar. I have zero time and zero tolerance for anyone contacting me regarding this just to waste my time. WST From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jan 21 17:45:57 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:45:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <530252.43721.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have a Longman head. It's got 11 holes in it, use the ones that match your block. There isn't any more to it. If you have a 9 stud block, the other two holes are useful indicators if your head gasket has blown ;-0. I have a relatively cheap Longman head, it's ok. A friend of mine has a similarly spec'd engine with a Bauchman head and he's getting 150+ HP and 112 ft-lb of torque (a good 25 hp more than I). --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Michael Rowe wrote: > From: Michael Rowe > Subject: [Spridgets] Heads > To: "Spridget Chat Group" > Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 3:35 PM > MiniMania offers Longman heads for 11-stud blocks that > "will fit 9-stud blocks." I assume they are A+ > heads, but I can't find any information on this > difference. Also, alloy heads claim a different internal > shaping that increases flow by 30% with standard valves. > All are expensive. Any advice? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Jan 21 18:32:53 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:32:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC!! Unless used for scheduling times to check on parts:) Message-ID: <002501c97c31$58f12450$0ad36cf0$@net> Anybody have experience with any particular calendar that can run on the desktop and notify you of upcoming appointments? New Years resolution to be on time and stop missing appointments. Saves money which could be better spent on LBCsJ Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1906 - Release Date: 1/21/2009 7:07 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 21 19:25:36 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:25:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite makes the newspaper Message-ID: <4977D920.2010500@comcast.net> *The article has not been released but the pictures are on the web app.com (Asbury Park Press) click on the thumbnails under the Sprite to see 22 pictures. Nice A40 in the hubcap ;) Anybody wanna buy it? click here http://tinyurl.com/cy2vcu or http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Avis=B3&Dato=20090120&Kategori=MULTIMEDIA02&Lopenr=901200805&Ref=PH * From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jan 21 20:53:24 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:53:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite makes the newspaper In-Reply-To: <4977D920.2010500@comcast.net> Message-ID: <<*The article has not been released but the pictures are on the web app.com (Asbury Park Press) click on the thumbnails under the Sprite to see 22 pictures.>> Frank, WAY COOL !!! er HOWEVER, I DO hope you have 'cautioned' the good Father to keep his hand OFF the windscreen while getting IN or OUT of Holy Sprite !?!?!?! Ed PS: His 'girth' not withstanding!! From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Jan 22 04:06:45 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:06:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com> <8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov> <699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry> <213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <63158409-2B2B-41C9-94B7-803CF63585DC@phillymgclub.com> Larry, While I would hate to disagree with David, I have to. The My Pasport drive is a 2.5" drive that is designed for a laptop. Hence it is a portable drive and built to withstand movement and slight shaking up. THe My Book drive is a desktop drive and designed to be put on a desktop and left there. It is heavier and not really designed for portability. OTOH, David is correct on the use of Flash drives for moving bits back and forth. THat is what I use most of the time, if not I use a 250GB LaCie 2.5" Porsche drive. (had it for like 3 years and no failure yet, and it's been to Wyoming a couple times). In the WD case, use the My Book for backups and the My Passport for transport. Larry On Jan 20, 2009, at 12:55 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> David, is there any difference, other than size, between the larger >> case >> hard drives like this "My Book" unit vs the smaller ones like "My >> Passport"? >> I am looking for a portable unit to bring back and forth between >> home and my >> office, but am wondering if there is any compromise when stuffing >> the same >> capacity into a smaller package. > > Personally, I would suggest that you might be better off using a > pair of the USB flash drives. They aren't perfect either (hence the > "pair"), but they have no moving parts to fail and 32GB is generally > enough for data transportation. > > If I were going to use a drive like that, I would lean towards the > WD My Book line. Hard drives do generate a lot of heat still and a > bigger case translates into better temperature control. > David Lieb _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Jan 22 04:13:24 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:13:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Water pump In-Reply-To: <968AB4AD3BDF4E95BF2AAE2B52423BB0@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <968AB4AD3BDF4E95BF2AAE2B52423BB0@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: My wife ordered from Amazon for an Xmas present. It showed up last week. Larry On Jan 21, 2009, at 12:04 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> > > Like the one that has just come out with a new edition (I hope > someone proofed > the English/Metric conversions) that is not yet available on Amazon? > Doesn't > seem to have appeared in the club library yet. > David Lieb ______________________________________________ -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 22 06:04:33 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:04:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com><8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov><699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry><213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov> <63158409-2B2B-41C9-94B7-803CF63585DC@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: > While I would hate to disagree with David, I have to. The My Pasport > drive is a 2.5" drive that is designed for a laptop. Hence it is a > portable drive and built to withstand movement and slight shaking up. > THe My Book drive is a desktop drive and designed to be put on a > desktop and left there. It is heavier and not really designed for > portability. I thought that was what the List was for during the winter... to see how many different opinions can exist on any one subject ;-) Anyhow, it is sort of like seatbelts and airbags and rollbars... IF you know what accident you are going to have next and when it is going to happen, it is easy to use the best restraints for it. If someone is going to barrel into the front of my car at 60mph, I am going to want to have airbags. If I am going to bump a smallish rock in the middle of the Tail of the Dragon with the crossmember of a 1995 Miata, I do NOT want airbags (they will deploy, break the windshield, obscure your vision and test your pucker power. Fortunately, that is a lesson I can learn from someone else's experience ;-) There are normal events that the smaller drives will shrug off that could take out the larger drives. And vice versa. There are other things that reverse the situation. If neither one experiences any trauma, the larger drive will tend to live longer. OTOH, every drive's life is different and they all have moving parts, so they can all be considered to be timebombs just waiting to ruin your life. David Lieb From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 22 07:01:24 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:01:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com><8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov><699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry><213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov><63158409-2B2B-41C9-94B7-803CF63585DC@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives > While I would hate to disagree with David, I have to. The My Pasport > drive is a 2.5" drive that is designed for a laptop. Hence it is a > portable drive and built to withstand movement and slight shaking up. > THe My Book drive is a desktop drive and designed to be put on a > desktop and left there. It is heavier and not really designed for > portability. I thought that was what the List was for during the winter... to see how many different opinions can exist on any one subject ;-) ================ OK, now how many opinions can we get on this? Which brand is better - WD or Seagate? By looking at the reviews, it seems there are better reviews for Seagate. Or are they just more vocal? I saw a lot of gripes about WD quality. I also saw good mention of LaCie, but there wasn't a lot of talk about them either way. May the war begin.... Larry P.S. I've been using SanDisk flash drives for a while with no problems. I like the titanium Cruzer. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 22 08:17:56 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:17:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com><8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov><699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry><213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov><63158409-2B2B-41C9-94B7-803CF63585DC@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <32D134EC09EB4BAF94F96E102A5CB614@NilesAD.von.gov> > Which brand is better - WD or Seagate? Both are pretty good. I have used hundreds of each of them. I tend to prefer WD for desktops and the high-end ST drives for servers. I feel that Seagate puts more into their high-end drives, but WD does a better bread-and-butter drive. In the early days of IDE, there were ST drives that could not establish a master/slave relationship with another identical drive... but I was able to make them work as a slave to a WD. As I said in my earlier post, every hard drive has moving parts and amounts to a timebomb waiting for the moment at which it can do you the most damage by crashing. The volume of WD drives out there is truly staggering. Yes, they will eventually fail, but I have had few failures of WD drives that were not due. David Lieb From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 22 08:41:00 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:41:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite makes the newspaper Message-ID: <475090.11754.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I thought I had taken some good photos till I saw those. I'm jealous. There are some really well thought out and framed images there, but the camera he used obviously has a bit to do with it too. Mine is an inexpensive (but pretty good) Canon 8megapixel point and shoot. I particularly like the one where the nose of the A40 appears in the background with you guys by the Holy Sprite in the foreground. The hubcap reflection shot is good too, as are the ones sitting around the kitchen table. Can't wait to read the article. - David From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 22 08:45:08 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:45:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC!! Unless used for scheduling times to check on parts:) In-Reply-To: <002501c97c31$58f12450$0ad36cf0$@net> Message-ID: <557028.59259.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: Anybody have experience with any particular calendar that can run on the desktop and notify you of upcoming appointments? New Years resolution to be on time and stop missing appointments. Saves money which could be better spent on LBCsJ I use Microsoft Outlook at work and love it. I can schedule events and it will give me reminders as far before the event as I tell it to. You can choose a bunch of diffeternt ways to view it and it is just plain easy to use. Not sure how (or if) available it is for home use, but it kicks butt in the office. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jan 22 08:59:29 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:59:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: <530252.43721.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <530252.43721.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200901220759540.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 06:45 PM 1/21/2009, you wrote: >I have a relatively cheap Longman head, it's ok. A friend of mine >has a similarly spec'd engine with a Bauchman head and he's getting >150+ HP and 112 ft-lb of torque (a good 25 hp more than I). But, does it do him any good?? From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jan 22 09:23:53 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:23:53 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <32D134EC09EB4BAF94F96E102A5CB614@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com><8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov><699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry><213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov><63158409-2B2B-41C9-94B7-803CF63585DC@phillymgclub.com> <32D134EC09EB4BAF94F96E102A5CB614@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <012220091623.12443.49789D9900025B4F0000309B22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog computed: A big thank you to everyone who responded to this thread. All of your advice was helpful to me and my master. I decided on a WD 500gb that David recommended. I ordered it from Frys.com and it arrived the next day. I'm already using it and it couldn't be more simple which is good because I don't know many commands or tricks. Hopefully moving it around the doghouse won't affect it. -------------- Original message from "David Lieb" : -------------- > > Which brand is better - WD or Seagate? > > Both are pretty good. I have used hundreds of each of them. I tend to prefer > WD for desktops and the high-end ST drives for servers. I feel that Seagate > puts more into their high-end drives, but WD does a better bread-and-butter > drive. In the early days of IDE, there were ST drives that could not > establish a master/slave relationship with another identical drive... but I > was able to make them work as a slave to a WD. > > As I said in my earlier post, every hard drive has moving parts and amounts > to a timebomb waiting for the moment at which it can do you the most damage > by crashing. The volume of WD drives out there is truly staggering. Yes, > they will eventually fail, but I have had few failures of WD drives that > were not due. > David Lieb From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jan 22 09:31:19 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:31:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Message-ID: I just picked up some cheap seats of the early '70's style. They have dead rubber diaphragms on the bottom. The catalogue shows rubber webbing for these seats. Any thoughts on the relative merits of the two types of bottoms? I got most of the parts stripped off of a car to be painted for $100 + $40 gas. ("Get my ex-husband's car junk out of my basement!") I don't yet know what is in all the boxes. If anyone needs anything specific for an early '70's car, let me know. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 09:43:51 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (J Foster)) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:43:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC!! Unless used for scheduling times to check on parts:) In-Reply-To: <557028.59259.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <002501c97c31$58f12450$0ad36cf0$@net> <557028.59259.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0901220843t2dff0605g4272710a6b51377d@mail.gmail.com> > --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > Anybody have experience with any particular calendar that can run on the > desktop and notify you of upcoming appointments? On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:45 AM, David Booker wrote: > I use Microsoft Outlook at work and love it. I can schedule events and it snip > use. Not sure how (or if) available it is for home use, but it kicks butt in > the office. Very much available for home use. I've used it for nearly 10 years. And the pricing it much more favorable now than 10 years ago. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116086 Some love it; some love to hate it (all with all MS products). I'm not a MS "fan-boy" but I've tried others - both at home and work (I'm a recovering "IT professional") - and have always gone back to Outlook. From mikey at b2systems.com Thu Jan 15 09:36:18 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 08:36:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC!! Unless used for scheduling times to check on parts:) In-Reply-To: <557028.59259.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <557028.59259.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1232037378.23672.11.camel@WebBrowser> I use Rainlendar available at http://www.rainlendar.net/ I like it because you can have it display the month on the desktop (mine is in the lower right corner) so you always have a open calendar visible. It does appointments, etc. I have it set up to share my calendar with Google Calendar so I have access from anywhere I have web access. Can even sync with your cell phone calendar (not tried that one yet) Its FREE !!! although if you need Outlook support that will cost 9.95 UK pounds (brings in the LBC part). mike On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 07:45 -0800, David Booker wrote: > --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > Anybody have experience with any particular calendar that can run on the > desktop and notify you of upcoming appointments? New Years resolution to be > on time and stop missing appointments. Saves money which could be better > spent on LBCsJ > > I use Microsoft Outlook at work and love it. I can schedule events and it > will give me reminders as far before the event as I tell it to. You can > choose a bunch of diffeternt ways to view it and it is just plain easy to > use. Not sure how (or if) available it is for home use, but it kicks butt in > the office. > > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jan 22 09:46:59 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:46:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <32D134EC09EB4BAF94F96E102A5CB614@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>, <32D134EC09EB4BAF94F96E102A5CB614@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <49783283.19218.1B29DD@kk7ss.verizon.net> A bit late, but... I seem to remember that WD bought Seagate several years ago... So they would have a high and low end product... After >25 years in the business, for personal use I prefer WD... But for the RAID-x arrays where I used to work, we used Fujitsu drives... On 22 Jan 2009 at 9:17, David Lieb wrote: >> > Which brand is better - WD or Seagate? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 22 09:49:42 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:49:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Seats In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <901901.27235.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I don't have any experience with the rubber diaphragm versions other than to see a bunch of them with the holes torn out where they used to attach. The rubber webbing that I just put in the seats I partially rebuilt over Thanksgiving sure are tough. Seems to me the diaphragm versions would be inherently weaker than the other version. The webbing basically looks like it is made from flat hose material (strings are imbedded in the rubber to reinforce). Not sure if you even have a choice, though. Are the frames for the two different types of seat the same size? David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jan 22 10:01:49 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:01:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Seats In-Reply-To: <901901.27235.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: , <901901.27235.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <497835FD.15787.28BE6F@kk7ss.verizon.net> I hate to "go against the flow' but.. I bought the rubber diaphragms from Mo$$, they are thick and quite tough. They were thicker at the edges.. It took me and my boy, working together to stretch them into the seat frames... I'm happy with them and they give good support to the seat squabs.. Just my $0.04 worth (inflation gets everywhere...) On 22 Jan 2009 at 8:49, David Booker wrote: >> I don't have any experience with the rubber diaphragm versions other >> than to see a bunch of them with the holes torn out where they used to >> attach. The rubber webbing that I just put in the seats I partially >> rebuilt over Thanksgiving sure are tough. Seems to me the diaphragm >> versions would be inherently weaker than the other version. The >> webbing basically looks like it is made from flat hose material >> (strings are imbedded in the rubber to reinforce). Not sure if you >> even have a choice, though. Are the frames for the two different >> types of seat the same size? >> >> David Booker >> '71 Midget >> Long Island >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as kk7ss at verizon.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 22 10:07:24 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:07:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: <200901220759540.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <842030.53993.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: > But, does it do him any good?? It did not come with driving lessons, so probably not. I don't expect you and Larry to contain yourselves when I open the can of whupass on him and his checkbook! ron From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 22 10:09:48 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:09:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads References: <842030.53993.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F7445F19BFB4820AF828BD76EAAC42F@Larry> Have mercy on him, Ron. I hate to see a grown man cry. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Peter Caldwell" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Heads --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: > But, does it do him any good?? It did not come with driving lessons, so probably not. I don't expect you and Larry to contain yourselves when I open the can of whupass on him and his checkbook! ron You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Thu Jan 22 10:12:09 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:12:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <32D134EC09EB4BAF94F96E102A5CB614@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com><8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov><699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry><213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov><63158409-2B2B-41C9-94B7-803CF63585DC@phillymgclub.com> <32D134EC09EB4BAF94F96E102A5CB614@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <8F18B79E-7B62-467B-BF01-31D999C8D0C3@phillymgclub.com> Interesting, as you said, there are a bunch of drives out there. But my experience is the opposite. Ihave had several WD,s fail, on both desktops and servers, but nary a single Seagate. That's over nearly 25 years with drives from a 10 MB (remember when those were 8" platters and HUGE amounts of space?) to today's terabyte SATA & SAS drives. Not saying your experiences are wrong, just different. Larry Larry Macy, Ph.D 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. "I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating with people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin Sent via iPhone On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:17 AM, "David Lieb" wrote: >> Which brand is better - WD or Seagate? > > Both are pretty good. I have used hundreds of each of them. I tend > to prefer WD for desktops and the high-end ST drives for servers. I > feel that Seagate puts more into their high-end drives, but WD does > a better bread-and-butter drive. In the early days of IDE, there > were ST drives that could not establish a master/slave relationship > with another identical drive... but I was able to make them work as > a slave to a WD. > > As I said in my earlier post, every hard drive has moving parts and > amounts to a timebomb waiting for the moment at which it can do you > the most damage by crashing. The volume of WD drives out there is > truly staggering. Yes, they will eventually fail, but I have had few > failures of WD drives that were not due. > David Lieb _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 22 10:33:40 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:33:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net><441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com><8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov><699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry><213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov><63158409-2B2B-41C9-94B7-803CF63585DC@phillymgclub.com><32D134EC09EB4BAF94F96E102A5CB614@NilesAD.von.gov> <8F18B79E-7B62-467B-BF01-31D999C8D0C3@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <538699B99E58422B8F18FA09CBA9103B@Larry> I did notice that Seagate has a 5 yr warranty vs 1 yr for WD. The other Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Macy" To: "David Lieb" Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives Interesting, as you said, there are a bunch of drives out there. But my experience is the opposite. Ihave had several WD,s fail, on both desktops and servers, but nary a single Seagate. That's over nearly 25 years with drives from a 10 MB (remember when those were 8" platters and HUGE amounts of space?) to today's terabyte SATA & SAS drives. Not saying your experiences are wrong, just different. Larry Larry Macy, Ph.D 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. "I finally figured out what email is for. It's for communicating with people you'd rather not talk to." G. Carlin Sent via iPhone On Jan 22, 2009, at 10:17 AM, "David Lieb" wrote: >> Which brand is better - WD or Seagate? > > Both are pretty good. I have used hundreds of each of them. I tend > to prefer WD for desktops and the high-end ST drives for servers. I > feel that Seagate puts more into their high-end drives, but WD does > a better bread-and-butter drive. In the early days of IDE, there > were ST drives that could not establish a master/slave relationship > with another identical drive... but I was able to make them work as > a slave to a WD. > > As I said in my earlier post, every hard drive has moving parts and > amounts to a timebomb waiting for the moment at which it can do you > the most damage by crashing. The volume of WD drives out there is > truly staggering. Yes, they will eventually fail, but I have had few > failures of WD drives that were not due. > David Lieb _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Jan 22 10:36:43 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:36:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: <842030.53993.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <842030.53993.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4978AEAB.9020902@wi.net> Ron Soave wrote: > It did not come with driving lessons, so probably not. I don't expect you and Larry to contain yourselves when I open the can of whupass on him and his checkbook! > > ron > Oh-oh, are we headed to a discussion on those really expensive exhaust systems and the horsepower they produce?? ;-) Dave W. From duncan at pondhop.com Thu Jan 22 10:50:39 2009 From: duncan at pondhop.com (Duncan Sinclair) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:50:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC!! Unless used for scheduling times to check on parts:) In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0901220843t2dff0605g4272710a6b51377d@mail.gmail.com> References: <002501c97c31$58f12450$0ad36cf0$@net> <557028.59259.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8de85a9c0901220843t2dff0605g4272710a6b51377d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes I have to agree, outlook is indispensable. Even better are the plug ins that allow the calendar and contacts to synch with my phone. The alerts pop up even when away from the PC. Thanks Duncan -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jethro (J Foster) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:44 To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC!! Unless used for scheduling times to check on parts:) > --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > Anybody have experience with any particular calendar that can run on the > desktop and notify you of upcoming appointments? On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:45 AM, David Booker wrote: > I use Microsoft Outlook at work and love it. I can schedule events and it snip > use. Not sure how (or if) available it is for home use, but it kicks butt in > the office. Very much available for home use. I've used it for nearly 10 years. And the pricing it much more favorable now than 10 years ago. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116086 Some love it; some love to hate it (all with all MS products). I'm not a MS "fan-boy" but I've tried others - both at home and work (I'm a recovering "IT professional") - and have always gone back to Outlook. You are subscribed as duncan at pondhop.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1903 - Release Date: 1/20/2009 14:34 From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 22 10:56:09 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:56:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: <842030.53993.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> So I HAVE to stay "silent", Ron??? Anon From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 22 10:57:35 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:57:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: <4F7445F19BFB4820AF828BD76EAAC42F@Larry> Message-ID: <> The way I read it Larry, it is YOU and PPP that get the 'honor'!?!? From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 22 11:09:24 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:09:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: <530252.43721.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <530252.43721.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ron, What's a Bauchman head go for? I imagine it's not cheap... Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:45:57 -0800 > From: soavero at yahoo.com > > I have a Longman head. It's got 11 holes in it, use the ones that match your block. There isn't any more to it. If you have a 9 stud block, the other two holes are useful indicators if your head gasket has blown ;-0. > > I have a relatively cheap Longman head, it's ok. A friend of mine has a similarly spec'd engine with a Bauchman head and he's getting 150+ HP and 112 ft-lb of torque (a good 25 hp more than I). > > > --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Michael Rowe wrote: > > > From: Michael Rowe > > Subject: [Spridgets] Heads > > To: "Spridget Chat Group" > > Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 3:35 PM > > MiniMania offers Longman heads for 11-stud blocks that > > "will fit 9-stud blocks." I assume they are A+ > > heads, but I can't find any information on this > > difference. Also, alloy heads claim a different internal > > shaping that increases flow by 30% with standard valves. > > All are expensive. Any advice? > > > > Michael Rowe > > '74 Midget > > Long Island, NY > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/versatility.aspx#mobile?ocid=TXT _TAGHM_WL_HM_versatility_121208 From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 22 11:10:56 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:10:56 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Heads Message-ID: There are a whole bunch of different 1275cc head castings of which I know very little. Whether or not the casting is A+ doesn'e mean anything as they made some small valve 1275cc heads for stuff like the Morris Ital. On the other hand the late A+ heads on the Classic (but not 1960s Classic) Minis would have had bigger valves. What you need to know is what the valve sizes are and how well the casting is ported. There are different combinations of inlet and exhaust that will fit in the head. Any 9 stud block can be drilled and tapped to take the extra 2 studs or sometimes a stud and a bolt. All of the 5 port aluminium alloy heads originate from Pierce who supply them as a bare casting for 'whoever' to build as per the customer spec. There is almost no data on the Pierce heads and possibly no flow bench data either. Generally the limitation on the Pierce head appears to be that since it needs an insert for one of the valves (or both) you can't get use as big valves as you can in an iron head. However, the aluminum head is significantly lighter than an iron head and if this is more important to you that a few more bhp (and almost certainly it'll benefit you more than a few more bhp) it's the hot choice. At least three listers here are runnin a Pierce head - probably all to different specs. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 21/01/2009 21:35:59 GMT Standard Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: MiniMania offers Longman heads for 11-stud blocks that "will fit 9-stud blocks." I assume they are A+ heads, but I can't find any information on this difference. Also, alloy heads claim a different internal shaping that increases flow by 30% with standard valves. All are expensive. Any advice? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 11:12:19 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:12:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives In-Reply-To: <012220091623.12443.49789D9900025B4F0000309B22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <011920091503.20159.4974965200074AEA00004EBF22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <441250190901191712re7c3e52q1fe67873750fad97@mail.gmail.com> <8A01FCA9F2EE436895EB34C10D95823B@NilesAD.von.gov> <699D237290BC4C728D6115D91B6A0073@Larry> <213863CF73494B3CA5CCE2F5A407A884@NilesAD.von.gov> <63158409-2B2B-41C9-94B7-803CF63585DC@phillymgclub.com> <32D134EC09EB4BAF94F96E102A5CB614@NilesAD.von.gov> <012220091623.12443.49789D9900025B4F0000309B22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: Just remember not to hike your leg on it... On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:23 AM, wrote: > tinydog computed: > > A big thank you to everyone who responded to this thread. All of your > advice was helpful to me and my master. > > I decided on a WD 500gb that David recommended. I ordered it from Frys.com > and it arrived the next day. I'm already using it and it couldn't be more > simple which is good because I don't know many commands or tricks. Hopefully > moving it around the doghouse won't affect it. > > > > -------------- Original message from "David Lieb" < > dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com>: -------------- > > > > > Which brand is better - WD or Seagate? > > > > Both are pretty good. I have used hundreds of each of them. I tend to > prefer > > WD for desktops and the high-end ST drives for servers. I feel that > Seagate > > puts more into their high-end drives, but WD does a better > bread-and-butter > > drive. In the early days of IDE, there were ST drives that could not > > establish a master/slave relationship with another identical drive... but > I > > was able to make them work as a slave to a WD. > > > > As I said in my earlier post, every hard drive has moving parts and > amounts > > to a timebomb waiting for the moment at which it can do you the most > damage > > by crashing. The volume of WD drives out there is truly staggering. Yes, > > they will eventually fail, but I have had few failures of WD drives that > > were not due. > > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 22 11:12:52 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:12:52 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Heads Message-ID: I'm sceptical of such a high bhp unless the head goes with something a lot bigger than a 1430cc engine (nearly 1500 I guess). Also do you use the same dyno? I think the biggest numbers I've heard of over here are 148 or 153 - I can't remember. Do Bauchman have a website? Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 22/01/2009 00:46:14 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: A friend of mine has a similarly spec'd engine with a Bauchman head and he's getting 150+ HP and 112 ft-lb of torque (a good 25 hp more than I). From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 11:15:54 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:15:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.btorocks.com/ On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:12 PM, wrote: > > Do Bauchman have a website? > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 22 11:18:01 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:18:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <428098.10965.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, brian S wrote: > What's a Bauchman head go for? > I imagine it's not cheap... $1300 + parts. Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 22 11:24:20 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:24:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <612300.98464.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Do Bauchman have a website? He has a 2 year backlog, so no. I believe the numbers - if you've seen or heard his motors, you would too. He does a lot of work with Rick Haynes - www.sportsandimports.biz Ron From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 22 11:31:27 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:31:27 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Ottawa winter Driving Message-ID: http://preview.tinyurl.com/bxzym4 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 22 11:36:44 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:36:44 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: isn't there a mini over there with 300-ish hp with an a-series? ----Original Message Follows---- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: soavero at yahoo.com, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Heads Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:12:52 EST I'm sceptical of such a high bhp unless the head goes with something a lot bigger than a 1430cc engine (nearly 1500 I guess). Also do you use the same dyno? I think the biggest numbers I've heard of over here are 148 or 153 - I can't remember. Do Bauchman have a website? Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 22/01/2009 00:46:14 GMT Standard Time, soavero at yahoo.com writes: A friend of mine has a similarly spec'd engine with a Bauchman head and he's getting 150+ HP and 112 ft-lb of torque (a good 25 hp more than I). From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Jan 22 11:39:20 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:39:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC!! Unless used for scheduling times to check on parts:) In-Reply-To: References: <005b01c97caa$b39c0180$1ad40480$@net> Message-ID: <006701c97cc0$bd5689a0$38039ce0$@net> Thanks for ALL the replies. I found the calendar in Outlook (as I have Office Professional one of the benefits of going back to school:) << To add to the conversation - I have had every brand mentioned (and a couple not - Quantum ring a bell?) fail over the years. The bottom line is if your data is important keep it on a variety of media, different locations, and multiple drives. I like mirrored raid and DVD/RW myself...If using cheaper external drives consider not leaving them connected and spinning all the time. FWIW: this morning I saw online a Buffalo NAS 1TB (500GB mirrored) for ~$210.00. I thought about getting one, but I am busy converting my eeePC to a mini-tabletPC and just spent my computer allowance for the month on a touch screen. ;^) -m From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 14:39:20 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:39:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget on eBay - Question Message-ID: <37dc82d40901221339x4c419e60i5999fbb8ff12097a@mail.gmail.com> This Midget - 1977- on eBay displays a gear box that you lift the shifter to get into reverse. The car is indicated as a restored vehicle with a buy it now for 8k. I was not aware that they made a gear box like this (I am not aware of a LOT of things). Would this be a rib cage or rib case box that began to use this reverse method at some point? Listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-MARK-IV-MGB-MIDGET-ROADSTER-4-SPEED-RESTORED-RARE-COLOR_W0QQitemZ270331500303QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item270331500303&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308 Kirk 59BE From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jan 22 14:41:36 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:41:36 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget on eBay - Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901221339x4c419e60i5999fbb8ff12097a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <012220092141.27131.4978E810000BCF42000069FB22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog answered: No ribcase. Triumph engine and gearbox -------------- Original message from Kirk Hargreaves : -------------- > This Midget - 1977- on eBay displays a gear box that you lift the shifter to > get into reverse. > > The car is indicated as a restored vehicle with a buy it now for 8k. > > I was not aware that they made a gear box like this (I am not aware of a LOT > of things). > > Would this be a rib cage or rib case box that began to use this reverse > method at some point? > > Listing: From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Jan 22 14:56:30 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:56:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget on eBay - Question In-Reply-To: <012220092141.27131.4978E810000BCF42000069FB22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <37dc82d40901221339x4c419e60i5999fbb8ff12097a@mail.gmail.com> <012220092141.27131.4978E810000BCF42000069FB22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <0c2801c97cdc$4eb47b30$1801010a@xp> You know...tinydog must be really good. According to my email timestamps, he answered this question 8 minutes before it was asked. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:42 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget on eBay - Question tinydog answered: No ribcase. Triumph engine and gearbox -------------- Original message from Kirk Hargreaves : -------------- > This Midget - 1977- on eBay displays a gear box that you lift the > shifter to get into reverse. > > The car is indicated as a restored vehicle with a buy it now for 8k. > > I was not aware that they made a gear box like this (I am not aware of > a LOT of things). > > Would this be a rib cage or rib case box that began to use this > reverse method at some point? > > Listing: You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jan 22 15:05:33 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:05:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget on eBay - Question In-Reply-To: <0c2801c97cdc$4eb47b30$1801010a@xp> References: <37dc82d40901221339x4c419e60i5999fbb8ff12097a@mail.gmail.com>, <012220092141.27131.4978E810000BCF42000069FB22243323629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net>, <0c2801c97cdc$4eb47b30$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <49787D2D.11634.13ED07E@kk7ss.verizon.net> I thought I only saw this happen on "The Twighlight Zone".... I didn't realise it was for real.... ;^D On 22 Jan 2009 at 16:56, Heard wrote: >> You know...tinydog must be really good. According to my email >> timestamps, he answered this question 8 minutes before it was asked. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jan 22 14:45:15 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:45:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Compressor Message-ID: <2A98237A831D4ADEA15A3AEA3DA1594C@HP> It seems like we are always moving dead LBC's around and they usually have from 2-4 flat tires. I'm looking for a compressor to install in my trailer that will air 4 tires in something less then a week. Anybody got a recommendation? How about a small AC compressor running off an DC-AC converter? Larry From peter at nosimport.com Thu Jan 22 15:11:17 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:11:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget on eBay - Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901221339x4c419e60i5999fbb8ff12097a@mail.gmail.co m> References: <37dc82d40901221339x4c419e60i5999fbb8ff12097a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200901221411995.SM11356@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> All Midgets after 1974 had Triumph engines and transmissions. Check out the lower rear 1/4! Nice. At least he didn't go forward of the rocker, too. Looks like rocker-rust was (and is?) an issue. Peter C == At 03:39 PM 1/22/2009, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: >This Midget - 1977- on eBay displays a gear box that you lift the shifter to >get into reverse. > >The car is indicated as a restored vehicle with a buy it now for 8k. > >I was not aware that they made a gear box like this (I am not aware of a LOT >of things). > >Would this be a rib cage or rib case box that began to use this reverse >method at some point? > >Listing: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-Midget-MARK-IV-MGB-MIDGET-ROADSTER-4-SPEED-RESTORED-RARE-COLOR_W0QQitemZ270331500303QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item270331500303&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308 > > >Kirk >59BE From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 22 15:19:08 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:19:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Compressor References: <2A98237A831D4ADEA15A3AEA3DA1594C@HP> Message-ID: <581CA827001F4E6286B19C9151215A8C@NilesAD.von.gov> > It seems like we are always moving dead LBC's around and they usually have > from 2-4 flat tires. I'm looking for a compressor to install in my trailer > that will air 4 tires in something less then a week. > > Anybody got a recommendation? > > How about a small AC compressor running off an DC-AC converter? Sounds like you need one of those trailers with the flathead Ford V8 that runs on four of the cylinders, compresses air with the other four, and turns an AC generator besides ;-) David Lieb No, I don't have one. From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Jan 22 15:24:50 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:24:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Compressor In-Reply-To: <581CA827001F4E6286B19C9151215A8C@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <2A98237A831D4ADEA15A3AEA3DA1594C@HP>, <581CA827001F4E6286B19C9151215A8C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <497881B2.19301.1507AE0@kk7ss.verizon.net> Saw one of those on a military base, it was mounted on a RR flat-bed car !! On 22 Jan 2009 at 16:19, David Lieb wrote: >> Sounds like you need one of those trailers with the flathead Ford V8 >> that runs on four of the cylinders, compresses air with the other >> four, and turns an AC generator besides ;-) -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From millerls at ado13.com Thu Jan 22 15:26:28 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:26:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Compressor References: <2A98237A831D4ADEA15A3AEA3DA1594C@HP> <581CA827001F4E6286B19C9151215A8C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <0115E6E9D00D47679B99508AD5C81B94@HP> I love it. Sounds like something everyone should have :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Larry & Sandi Miller" ; "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Compressor >> It seems like we are always moving dead LBC's around and they usually >> have from 2-4 flat tires. I'm looking for a compressor to install in my >> trailer that will air 4 tires in something less then a week. >> >> Anybody got a recommendation? >> >> How about a small AC compressor running off an DC-AC converter? > > Sounds like you need one of those trailers with the flathead Ford V8 that > runs on four of the cylinders, compresses air with the other four, and > turns an AC generator besides ;-) > David Lieb > No, I don't have one. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jan 22 15:38:32 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:38:32 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Compressor In-Reply-To: <581CA827001F4E6286B19C9151215A8C@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <2A98237A831D4ADEA15A3AEA3DA1594C@HP> <581CA827001F4E6286B19C9151215A8C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <48F37D5CEF4846798AEE439EC50C0D5E@spider> They made a sump pump once out of a 1920's Harley Davidson V-twin; one cylinder fired and the other pumped. ...bill in oregon ============================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:19 PM To: Larry & Sandi Miller; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Compressor > It seems like we are always moving dead LBC's around and they usually have > from 2-4 flat tires. I'm looking for a compressor to install in my trailer > that will air 4 tires in something less then a week. > Anybody got a recommendation? > How about a small AC compressor running off an DC-AC converter? Sounds like you need one of those trailers with the flathead Ford V8 that runs on four of the cylinders, compresses air with the other four, and turns an AC generator besides ;-) David Lieb No, I don't have one. _______________________________________________ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 22 15:39:09 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:39:09 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Heads Message-ID: The most I've heard is something like 240 bhp on a Turbo motor which is believable while it lasts. I guess if you added nitrous as well it might be possible. In a message dated 22/01/2009 18:37:10 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: isn't there a mini over there with 300-ish hp with an a-series? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Jan 22 15:40:04 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:40:04 EST Subject: [Spridgets] OT - External hard drives Message-ID: I was given a secondhand Quantam Fireball many years ago and it was great. In a message dated 22/01/2009 19:05:06 GMT Standard Time, mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu writes: Quantum From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 22 16:53:18 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:53:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This one was supposed to be turbo and nitrous and the guy was well known. ( UK? OZ? ) It was on the cover of a car mag that I didn't buy. But, my memory is notoriously bad. I tried to google to see if I could find it, but no go. :-( _____ From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com] Sent: January 22, 2009 5:39 PM To: robertduquette at sympatico.ca; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Heads The most I've heard is something like 240 bhp on a Turbo motor which is believable while it lasts. I guess if you added nitrous as well it might be possible. In a message dated 22/01/2009 18:37:10 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: isn't there a mini over there with 300-ish hp with an a-series? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 16:58:26 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:58:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Midget 50th and the SMC USA website.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0901221558v62bcae6dp4b030d7f904d1ad0@mail.gmail.com> Spridgeteers, There have been a lot of updates made to the Sprite-Midget Club USA, Inc. website. A fledgling Spridgets resources page has been added and input would be greatly appreciated. The intent is to assemble as many Spridget resources as possible all together in one place making it easier for all of us to find what we want/need. The new tab has also been added to the front page of the website for the "Midget 50th". Our first venue proposal is posted for your reading pleasure. Others will be added as they are received so get those venue proposals in by the March 15th deadline.... -- Cheers!! Jim Sprite - Midget Club USA From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 22 12:23:31 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:23:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Midget 50th and the SMC USA website.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901221558v62bcae6dp4b030d7f904d1ad0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Really?? <> And any GOOD reason the sig does NOT have a LINK for any 'newbies' that might like to KNOW and/or be ATTRACTED to it so there are MORE folks?? Geesh. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 22 18:24:16 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:24:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite makes the newspaper References: <4977D920.2010500@comcast.net> Message-ID: <060408FB4E104A3BB86A34744C819E88@midget> I dunno about the text there. I thought we were a Spridget group rather than an Austin Healey group ;-) From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jan 22 18:42:20 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:42:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Midget 50th and the SMC USA website.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4979207C.60703@frontiernet.net> To keep the wedding guests to a minimum? > > And any GOOD reason the sig does NOT have a LINK for any 'newbies' > that might like to KNOW and/or be ATTRACTED to it so there are > MORE folks?? > > Geesh. From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 22 12:54:26 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 13:54:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite makes the newspaper In-Reply-To: <060408FB4E104A3BB86A34744C819E88@midget> Message-ID: <> AGREED, David!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 22 19:26:44 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:26:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games Message-ID: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> I was wandering through Best Buy last night and saw that they have a lovely Logitech steering wheel and pedal set for the PC. I looked in vain for any software to take advantage of them. Probably there somewhere, I just didn't see it. So, I was wondering whether the consoles have taken over or if there is still any decent driving software out there. Anyone have a favorite? David Lieb From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Jan 22 19:28:35 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:28:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Midget 50th and the SMC USA website.... References: <43840a7e0901221558v62bcae6dp4b030d7f904d1ad0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2A1E311300F441729A9CE3FB5CF8DD52@midget> http://www.sprite-midgetclub.org/ is the url you all have been trying desperately to remember. From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Jan 22 19:43:31 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:43:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games In-Reply-To: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> References: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> Message-ID: <95228184.20090122184331@pacifier.com> Hello David, One of my all time favorites is "Grand Prix Legends" from Sierra Sports. I have no idea if it is still available. It essentially covers the 1967 Grand Prix Season with the tracks as they were meant to be run, WITHOUT chicanes. It has the full Nurburgring, Spa, and Monaco tracks among others and features such drivers as Jim Clark, Denny Hulme, Jacky Ickx, Bruce McClaren Graham Hill and many others..... if its not still available let me know, and i'll get it off to ya. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Death is life's way of telling you you've been fired. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Jan 22 19:53:53 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:53:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Compressor In-Reply-To: <2A98237A831D4ADEA15A3AEA3DA1594C@HP> Message-ID: > looking for a compressor to install in my trailer > that will air 4 tires in something less then a week. I use a little Sears diaphragm compressor and a long cord. It inflates tires in seconds, but tops out at about 50psi. I don't know if Sears still offers them. I've had mine about 28 years. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 20:05:04 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:05:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Driveshaft Vibration Issue In-Reply-To: References: <4D735E810FBC44A69C40B98396F5BFC7@HOMEPC> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901221905n13a436bet6a7dabe2e64e62cd@mail.gmail.com> Ever see such a thing.... Herb Driveline Vibration Issue - Possible Root Cause This guy ran over a mattress and decided to keep going. The ensuing jumble finally whipped around enough to put a tear in the gas tank, the subsequent lack of fuel is what finally brought this vehicle to its knees. It had still managed to drive 30 more miles decently with a 60lb tangle wrapped around the driveshaft. This genius complained that the vehicle had a "shimmy" when driving it high speeds. This is what the dealership found.............. ____________________________________________________________ . [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image003.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image001.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of image002.jpg] From mahney at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 20:07:25 2009 From: mahney at gmail.com (Greg Mahney) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:07:25 +0900 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games In-Reply-To: <95228184.20090122184331@pacifier.com> References: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> <95228184.20090122184331@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <780ad83f0901221907o71059260sda3f9e347c61ff93@mail.gmail.com> I'd have to agree. You can download a free demo of it here http://www.bhmotorsports.com/download/6404 It is actually the original program that has been updated by a community of GPL enthusiasts (geeky, but nice!) On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello David, > > One of my all time favorites is "Grand Prix Legends" from Sierra > Sports. I have no idea if it is still available. It essentially > covers the 1967 Grand Prix Season with the tracks as they were > meant to be run, WITHOUT chicanes. It has the full Nurburgring, > Spa, and Monaco tracks among others and features such drivers as > Jim Clark, Denny Hulme, Jacky Ickx, Bruce McClaren Graham Hill > and many others..... > > if its not still available let me know, and i'll get it off to > ya. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Death is life's way of telling you you've been fired. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mahney at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Jan 22 20:13:51 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:13:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Midget 50th and the SMC USA website.... References: <43840a7e0901221558v62bcae6dp4b030d7f904d1ad0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04B72AFB04904133A6672707A39C6865@Larry> Who are the group of 10 who will be making this decision and how were they selected? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Spridgets" ; "Midget/Sprite" ; "bugeye" Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:58 PM Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Midget 50th and the SMC USA website.... Spridgeteers, There have been a lot of updates made to the Sprite-Midget Club USA, Inc. website. A fledgling Spridgets resources page has been added and input would be greatly appreciated. The intent is to assemble as many Spridget resources as possible all together in one place making it easier for all of us to find what we want/need. The new tab has also been added to the front page of the website for the "Midget 50th". Our first venue proposal is posted for your reading pleasure. Others will be added as they are received so get those venue proposals in by the March 15th deadline.... -- Cheers!! Jim Sprite - Midget Club USA You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Jan 22 20:38:29 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:38:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pls Forward to Father Jack Message-ID: A golfer playing in Ireland hooked his drive into the woods. Looking for his ball, he found a little Leprechaun flat on his back, a big bump on his head and the golfer's ball beside him. Horrified, the golfer got his water bottle from the cart and poured it over the little guy, reviving him. 'Arrgh! What happened?' the Leprechaun asked. 'I'm afraid I hit you with my golf ball,' the golfer says. 'Oh, I see. Well, ye got me fair and square. Ye get three wishes, so whaddya want?' 'Thank God, you're all right!' the golfer answers in relief. 'I don't want anything, I'm just glad you're OK, and I apologize.' And the golfer walks off. 'What a nice guy,' the Leprechaun says to himself. I have to do something for him. I'll give him the three things I would want... a great golf game, all the money he ever needs, and a fantastic sex life.' A year goes by and the golfer is back. On the same hole, he again hits a bad drive into the woods and the Leprechaun is there waiting for him. 'Twas me that made ye hit the ball here,' the little guy says. 'I just want to ask ye, how's yer golf game?' 'My game is fantastic!' the golfer answers. I'm an internationally famous golfer now.' He adds, 'By the way, it's good to see you're all right.' 'Oh, I'm fine now, thank ye. I did that fer yer golf game, you know. And tell me, how's yer money situation?' 'Why, it's just wonderful!' the golfer states. 'When I need cash, I just reach in my pocket and pull out $100 bills I didn't even know were there!' 'I did that fer ye also.' And tell me, how's yer sex life?' The golfer blushes, turns his head away in embarrassment, and says shyly, 'It's OK.' C'mon, c'mon now,' urged the Leprechaun, 'I'm wanting to know if I did a good job. How many times a week?' Blushing even more, the golfer looks around then whispers, 'Once, sometimes twice a week.' 'What??' responds the Leprechaun in shock. 'That's all? Only once or twice a week?' 'Well,' says the golfer, 'I figure that's not bad for a Catholic priest in a small parish.' From davriker at nwi.net Thu Jan 22 21:05:47 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:05:47 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games References: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> Message-ID: I have "Classic British Motor Racing" for WII. I can't compare it to anything else as this is all I have played, but it is fun, the cars are all classic British, the Midget responds to trail braking just like my real car does, and all the "tracks" are set in England! Dave R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:26 PM Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games >I was wandering through Best Buy last night and saw that they have a lovely > Logitech steering wheel and pedal set for the PC. I looked in vain for any > software to take advantage of them. Probably there somewhere, I just > didn't > see it. So, I was wondering whether the consoles have taken over or if > there > is still any decent driving software out there. Anyone have a favorite? > David Lieb From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu Jan 22 21:23:22 2009 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:23:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games In-Reply-To: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> References: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> Message-ID: <200901230423.n0N4NKhj019020@mail.usimperio.com> Need for Speed Underground Need for Speed Porsche Both are great PC games. I use an old xbox controller I modified to go in the usb port. Dave At 09:26 PM 1/22/2009, you wrote: >I was wandering through Best Buy last night and saw that they have a >lovely Logitech steering wheel and pedal set for the PC. I looked in >vain for any software to take advantage of them. Probably there >somewhere, I just didn't see it. So, I was wondering whether the >consoles have taken over or if there is still any decent driving >software out there. Anyone have a favorite? >David Lieb _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 22 22:51:01 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 21:51:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] V F Cool - 1957 Elkhart and Rockford Message-ID: <678908.23822.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Not sure where they found the hill in Rockford (15 miles down the road), but this is cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WRqkvac2gM&feature=related Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 22:52:39 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 23:52:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Midget 50th and the SMC USA website.... In-Reply-To: <04B72AFB04904133A6672707A39C6865@Larry> References: <43840a7e0901221558v62bcae6dp4b030d7f904d1ad0@mail.gmail.com> <04B72AFB04904133A6672707A39C6865@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901222152h18d63830wee0f89aaef1467b7@mail.gmail.com> Good question, Larry. For now they will be kept secret to avoid guys like you trying to stuff the ballot box... ;-) (just kidding!) They haven't all been assigned yet. The 10 will be made up of the people who volunteered to do the work both at the event and before hand. As Michael Rowe said earlier, those who do the work should make the venue decision. We still need 3 more folks who don't have a dog in the hunt and are willing to be totally objective. Presently the group is: Frank Clarici Larry Macy Jim Johnson David Lieb Kate Bales Trevor Jessie One soul from the Elkhart Lake lobby ? ? ? Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Who are the group of 10 who will be making this decision and how were they > selected? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 22 23:03:26 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:03:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games In-Reply-To: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> References: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901222203r3fb7c4b5k6a6557efd36a1bd@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:26 PM, David Lieb wrote: > Anyone have a favorite? I'm a "retro" kinda guy. How about "Pong"? -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From shelden3 at pldi.net Fri Jan 23 05:26:31 2009 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 06:26:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games References: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> <43840a7e0901222203r3fb7c4b5k6a6557efd36a1bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <00c401c97d55$d302fb90$6801a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> As of late it has been Mario Kart on the Wii....totally unrealistic but very addictive, even my kids grandfather gets into it. Charlie -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.9 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2419 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jan 23 06:40:41 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:40:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] More on the Midget 50th and the SMC USA website.... Message-ID: <285634.60815.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > They haven't all been assigned yet. The 10 will be > made up of the people > who volunteered to do the work both at the event and before > hand. As Michael > Rowe said earlier, those who do the work should make the > venue decision. We I just want to be clear here - I go to Elkhart Lake at least 3 times a year. There are hundreds if not thousands of LBCs there each time. The track is full of LBCs, the town streets are filled with them, and the parking paddock looks like Abingdon, Coventry and Blackpool annexed themselves in Central Wisconsin. I'm not lobbying for Elkhart for my usual selfish reasons - I get several full doses of the place per year. I'm suggesting it because it is a beautiful venue that is built around appreciation for the sports-type automobile, and because THERE ARE SO MANY OF US CLOSE BY TO HELP. I'm sure the 10 committee members will be the key people in laying out the plan for the event, but I would think executing that plan a lot easier if list members are nearby to do the foot work. One of the factors on the checklist might want to be how many really vested volunteers live within 100 miles of the place. I've undertaken some very large scale projects long distance, and it is an awful lot easier with people on the ground where the action is. .02 spent - Ron From andrewpayne at intrex.net Fri Jan 23 06:51:33 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:51:33 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games Message-ID: This doesn't really answer your question, but we don't let that stop us, do we? You can pick up some great driving simulators and games for both the XBOX and PlayStation 2. Logitech makes a Force Feedback wheel for the PS2, and I have a Fanatech wheel for my XBOX. Match the XBOX with Forza, or the PS2 with Gran Tourismo 4 and you have a great system that a few years ago would have sold for around $400, now you can pick up for around $125 used. GameStop sells this stuff, but independent shops will probably be best for the wheel. If you don't care about particular games, find a wheel first. The games and consoles are common. If you are prone to headaches from eye strain, I'd steer you (get it...) towards the XBOX. It refreshes twice as much, which I preferred, also Forza has better damage modeling. Then grab a copy of Colin McRae 2005, TOCA Race Driver 3, and Burnout Revenge (good with beer). At least that's what I did. Drew -----Original Message----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: 1/22/09 9:26 PM Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games I was wandering through Best Buy last night and saw that they have a lovely Logitech steering wheel and pedal set for the PC. I looked in vain for any software to take advantage of them. Probably there somewhere, I just didn't see it. So, I was wondering whether the consoles have taken over or if there is still any decent driving software out there. Anyone have a favorite? David Lieb You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri Jan 23 09:20:18 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 08:20:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] V F Cool - 1957 Elkhart and Rockford Message-ID: <528851.97982.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Enjoyed that Ron. The TR3 cornered like it was bone stock, but the Mercedes looked very mannerly. I wonder if they were that good in stock form? I don't believe there was much suspension prep done in 1957. Anyone know? John Fogelsville, PA --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Ron Soave wrote: From: Ron Soave Subject: [Spridgets] V F Cool - 1957 Elkhart and Rockford To: "Spridgets" , team-thicko at autox.team.net Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 12:51 AM Not sure where they found the hill in Rockford (15 miles down the road), but this is cool. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WRqkvac2gM&feature=related Ron You are subscribed as fastvee at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 23 13:31:30 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:31:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Heads In-Reply-To: <428098.10965.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <428098.10965.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Considering what Minimania and others charge for bare aluminum ones, and the power you'd get out of it, that's not too bad. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:18:01 -0800 > > --- On Thu, 1/22/09, brian S wrote: > > What's a Bauchman head go for? > > I imagine it's not cheap... > > $1300 + parts. > > Ron > ______ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howit works_012009 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 23 16:52:36 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:52:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] H Production Run-offs on Speed tonight In-Reply-To: <00b501c96f57$f0c01d90$d24058b0$@net> References: <00b501c96f57$f0c01d90$d24058b0$@net> Message-ID: In case anyone missed it, They are on Tonight at 1 AM Eastern Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/versatility.aspx#mobile?ocid=TXT _TAGHM_WL_HM_versatility_121208 From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Jan 23 17:10:50 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:10:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] H Production Run-offs on Speed tonight In-Reply-To: References: <00b501c96f57$f0c01d90$d24058b0$@net> Message-ID: <497A5C8A.3090106@wi.net> Thanks Brian! I did miss it first time 'round. Thanks, Dave W. 59 :{) Burlington WI brian S wrote: > In case anyone missed it, > They are on Tonight at 1 AM Eastern > > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer under resto From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Jan 23 18:34:06 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 20:34:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No more Holy Smokes Message-ID: <497A700E.1020109@comcast.net> The rebuilt 1098 is in, doesn't leak and does NOT smoke anymore. Fr Jack stopped over tonight and could not believe how sweet it runs now that it makes a bit more power with compression in all 4 cylinders and that the brakes are not locked on anymore. We tooled around town top down 28* out for a bit. He really needs to learn how to drive a Sprite, he's like an old priest or something putting around town shifting at about 2000 rpms. He is happy, I am happy, now all I have to do is replace the chinese made E brake cable that now, 60 days later, is as effective as a spaghetti noodle. I will post the URL to the newspaper article as soon as it comes out. Meanwhile newspaper pictures are on line at http://tinyurl.com/cy2vcu If anyone missed it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jan 24 09:52:41 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:52:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No more Holy Smokes In-Reply-To: <497A700E.1020109@comcast.net> References: <497A700E.1020109@comcast.net> Message-ID: <497B4759.10802@wi.net> Way to go!! Can't wait for the article. Any idea why the engine was smoking? Guides, valves? I know the list said 1098's tend to eradicate mosquitoes but what's the cause? Dave W. Frank Clarici wrote: > The rebuilt 1098 is in, doesn't leak and does NOT smoke anymore. > Fr Jack stopped over tonight and could not believe how sweet it runs > now that it makes a bit more power with compression > in all 4 cylinders and that the brakes are not locked on anymore. > We tooled around town top down 28* out for a bit. > He really needs to learn how to drive a Sprite, he's like an old > priest or something putting around town shifting at about 2000 rpms. > He is happy, I am happy, now all I have to do is replace the chinese > made E brake cable that now, 60 days later, > is as effective as a spaghetti noodle. > > I will post the URL to the newspaper article as soon as it comes out. > Meanwhile newspaper pictures are on line at > http://tinyurl.com/cy2vcu If anyone missed it. From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Jan 24 20:30:17 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:30:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again Message-ID: <247390.55389.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Oh my: Ebay Item number: 160311565061 I remember when it seemed impossible that these bikes had hit $25,000. Ron From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Jan 24 20:59:04 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:59:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again References: <247390.55389.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <591C8B20A5CD4DAFB9A9EEB2DDBDC226@Larry> I don't know who you might be bidding against, but I do know that Jay Leno is a big Vincent fan. Good luck. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:30 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again Oh my: Ebay Item number: 160311565061 I remember when it seemed impossible that these bikes had hit $25,000. Ron You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwoerpel at wi.net Sat Jan 24 22:05:18 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:05:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again In-Reply-To: <247390.55389.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <247390.55389.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <497BF30E.8000503@wi.net> Ron! Whataya doin' to me...I can't get up from the table!! I'd set that thing in my living room and just look at it; gorgeous! Dave W. -gotta go jump inna snow drift. Ron Soave wrote: > Oh my: > > Ebay Item number: 160311565061 > > I remember when it seemed impossible that these bikes had hit $25,000. > > Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Jan 24 23:21:19 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:21:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again In-Reply-To: <497BF30E.8000503@wi.net> References: <247390.55389.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <497BF30E.8000503@wi.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901242221o4092c320hae6ab0bcb131b9ff@mail.gmail.com> $100 of this bike is mine since that's the amount of raffle tickets I bought on it in the AMA raffle. From the looks of it, that may buy me 10 minutes of sitting on it if whomever ends up with it is a nice guy... ;-) Now then.... If it were a Brough Superior..... I promise not to drool too much if I ever get to see it in person.... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:05 PM, David Woerpel wrote: > Ron! Whataya doin' to me...I can't get up from the table!! > > I'd set that thing in my living room and just look at it; gorgeous! > > Dave W. -gotta go jump inna snow drift. > > Ron Soave wrote: > >> Oh my: >> >> Ebay Item number: 160311565061 >> >> I remember when it seemed impossible that these bikes had hit $25,000. >> >> Ron From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 05:28:51 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:28:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again In-Reply-To: <247390.55389.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <894344.1067.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 1/24/09, Ron Soave wrote: Oh my: Ebay Item number: 160311565061 I remember when it seemed impossible that these bikes had hit $25,000. Ron How is that I somehow knew this would be a Vincent... Yes they're beautiful. I saw four guys ride in to the Vintage bike show in Oley PA last year (or was that '07?) Anyway, basically, the whole fairgrounds stopped in its collective tracks to watch them roll by. These guys rode them there too - they all had bags and packs strapped on - no trailer queens. Guess it's pretty much the equivalent of a pack of dirt spattered 50's Ferraris pulling into a car show. - David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From: Ron Soave Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again To: "Spridgets" Date: Saturday, January 24, 2009, 9:30 PM You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From nases at verizon.net Sun Jan 25 05:45:36 2009 From: nases at verizon.net (Phil Nase) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:45:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bumper Message-ID: <9656A0E5-FA25-4C5A-8B5F-C7C44B8050BC@verizon.net> I want to put my Bugeye front bumper on the car. At least until I get tired of whackin my shins on it. Were the bolt heads to the irons chromed? Anyone have any good pictures of the iron attachment from frame to bumper? thanks. Phil Nase Quakertown, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 25 05:57:31 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:57:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again In-Reply-To: <247390.55389.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> So are you Bidder a***7 or i***4, Ron???? Think you can beat Flounder with it??? HeeHee David L. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 25 07:47:23 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:47:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Isetta Message-ID: <0AE75B73825C4421B8A2C58A1253E683@midget> You mean it isn't a Spridget??? Nope. But the school that did the Team Sprite project in 2006-7 is now doing Team Isetta. http://www.teamisetta.com/ Thought some of you would be interested... David Lieb From nory1 at roadrunner.com Sun Jan 25 07:55:17 2009 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:55:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question Message-ID: I know some of you have Miatas, so maybe you can answer a question for me. A friend of mine couldn't get her Miata started, so we thought the battery was dead (it's been sleeping in the garage for a while). After charging the battery, the headlights work, but nothing else. It looks like the main fuse is out. It looks pretty easy to replace (am I right????), but we were wondering what may have caused the fuse to blow. Does she have another issue going on that might be a problem? Is there anything I need to know before replacing the fuse? Thanks! -Nory From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Jan 25 07:59:28 2009 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:59:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again References: <247390.55389.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <497BF30E.8000503@wi.net> Message-ID: <06e501c97efd$85a04a70$6401a8c0@refisk> I would ride the hell out of it if it were mine. :-) Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Woerpel" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again > Ron! Whataya doin' to me...I can't get up from the table!! > > I'd set that thing in my living room and just look at it; gorgeous! > > Dave W. -gotta go jump inna snow drift. > > > > Ron Soave wrote: >> Oh my: >> >> Ebay Item number: 160311565061 >> >> I remember when it seemed impossible that these bikes had hit $25,000. >> >> Ron From refisk at chartermi.net Sun Jan 25 08:03:12 2009 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:03:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games References: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> <95228184.20090122184331@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <070101c97efe$0ad64fa0$6401a8c0@refisk> 10 copies for sale on eBay right now. http://tinyurl.com/bruffm Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: "David Lieb" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games > Hello David, > > One of my all time favorites is "Grand Prix Legends" from Sierra > Sports. I have no idea if it is still available. It essentially > covers the 1967 Grand Prix Season with the tracks as they were > meant to be run, WITHOUT chicanes. It has the full Nurburgring, > Spa, and Monaco tracks among others and features such drivers as > Jim Clark, Denny Hulme, Jacky Ickx, Bruce McClaren Graham Hill > and many others..... > > if its not still available let me know, and i'll get it off to > ya. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 25 08:11:47 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:11:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bumper In-Reply-To: <9656A0E5-FA25-4C5A-8B5F-C7C44B8050BC@verizon.net> References: <9656A0E5-FA25-4C5A-8B5F-C7C44B8050BC@verizon.net> Message-ID: <497C8133.1090409@comcast.net> Phil Nase wrote: > I want to put my Bugeye front bumper on the car. At least until I get > tired of whackin my shins on it. > > Were the bolt heads to the irons chromed? Yes but stainless carriage bolts last longer than the crap available today but the usual suppliers sell 3/8 x 24 chrome "bumper bolts" I like the carriage bolts as they do not stand as proud as the bumper bolts. > > Anyone have any good pictures of the iron attachment from frame to > bumper? A long and short iron on each side, I can't find a good shot of the set up and my digital camera died, AGAIN! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Jan 25 08:25:11 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:25:11 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Team Isetta Message-ID: My Dad had something very similar when I was a kit - I think it was the same thing only badge engineered - A Trojan by Heinkel. In a message dated 25/01/2009 14:48:02 GMT Standard Time, dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com writes: You mean it isn't a Spridget??? Nope. But the school that did the Team Sprite project in 2006-7 is now doing Team Isetta. http://www.teamisetta.com/ Thought some of you would be interested... David Lieb From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 09:07:41 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (J Foster)) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:07:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] PC Driving Games In-Reply-To: <070101c97efe$0ad64fa0$6401a8c0@refisk> References: <4C48D04BC87E44E9AA8468A36272DBCF@midget> <95228184.20090122184331@pacifier.com> <070101c97efe$0ad64fa0$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0901250807r640bdfb3k98dc9c14a445d2fd@mail.gmail.com> I just stumbled across this article a couple of days ago that might interst you! http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001030.html Of the few games that I've tried Need For Speed Porche Unleashed is by far my favorite. Everytime I'd tried to get Grand Prix Legends I got a corrupt download ... but that was a few years ago, maybe it's time to try again. Oh, yes, and as Drew said, Burnout Revenge is great fun on the Playstation for parties. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 09:16:46 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (J Foster)) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:16:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Team Isetta In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8de85a9c0901250816j732d4a01n6d2346779621776c@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:25 AM, wrote: > My Dad had something very similar when I was a kit - I think it was the same > thing only badge engineered - A Trojan by Heinkel. > Hmm. If I'd have used a Trojan when my sons were still in kit form I could afford a few more cars! (woudn't trade them for anything, just couldn't resist the joke) From billmasq at hotmail.com Sun Jan 25 09:43:03 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:43:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again In-Reply-To: <06e501c97efd$85a04a70$6401a8c0@refisk> References: <247390.55389.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <497BF30E.8000503@wi.net> <06e501c97efd$85a04a70$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: Not that I know anything about the Vincents but at my first job after college my boss (Bert Butler) told me that he used to race for the Vincent factory team in England when he was a kid. One night he was in a race that had both cars and bikes in it and couldn't pass this stupid Nash ,who he had to admit was doing a pretty good job of driving. At the next rest point he was still following the Nash and when the driver got out he came back to Bert on the bike and said "My- you are a pretty good driver to keep up with me, my name is Donald Healy". My boss did like my Sprite. Bill > From: refisk at chartermi.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:59:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again > > I would ride the hell out of it if it were mine. :-) > > Rick > > ----- Original Mess)age ----- > From: "David Woerpel" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Beautiful British bikes again > > > > Ron! Whataya doin' to me...I can't get up from the table!! > > > > I'd set that thing in my living room and just look at it; gorgeous! > > > > Dave W. -gotta go jump inna snow drift. > > > > > > > > Ron Soave wrote: > >> Oh my: > >> > >> Ebay Item number: 160311565061 > >> > >> I remember when it seemed impossible that these bikes had hit $25,000. > >> > >> Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From frogeye at cox.net Sun Jan 25 10:22:01 2009 From: frogeye at cox.net (Alan) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:22:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Update on Kellison fiberglass bonnet project Message-ID: Previously, I had posted that I had a chance to gain access to a vintage mold that created a Kellison style fiberglass bonnet. Several listers had emailed me with varying degrees of interest. I have now started the process and have the first 3 finished. I have a price and final weight since we have had a chance to make sure they came out to my liking. For those that had contacted me early please reply back for further details. Anyone else that's interested, the more that are made in one production run the better the price. Ed allowed me some bandwidth on his website to post a picture of one that was similar. I will ask him to post the actually photos now of one resting on a bugeye tub I have here. I also have a forward tilting kit assembly that will allow the bonnet to easily marry up to the front of almost any sprite or Midget as long as you don't plan to use a front bumper. Contact me off the list directly at frogeye at cox.net For pictures and or more details, including pricing, if your interested in creating a different look on your LBC's Regards Alan From twobees at sprynet.com Sun Jan 25 10:45:02 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:45:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for 9/16" Shock Nut? Message-ID: <001501c97f14$a6d83330$6401a8c0@normoffice> Anyone have an idea where I can find the 9/16", 16 castellated nut for the arm of the front shock on my Spridget other than shock rebuilders? I've tried NAPA & ACE Hardware. Best I can find is 9/16", 12 or 18. Norm Sippel From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 11:42:29 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:42:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Update on Kellison fiberglass bonnet project In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430901251042q68f67326k8bb633fd505da704@mail.gmail.com> Alan, Wow that was fast you actually have 3 made already. Very impressive. I'd like to see what one looks like on a car. How difficult was it to make? I wish I was there with a camera my class would love to see you making one. Lin On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Alan wrote: > Previously, I had posted that I had a chance to gain access to a vintage > mold > that created a Kellison style fiberglass bonnet. > Several listers had emailed me with varying degrees of interest. > I have now started the process and have the first 3 finished. > I have a price and final weight since we have had a chance to make sure > they > came out to my liking. > For those that had contacted me early please reply back for further > details. > Anyone else that's interested, the more that are made in one production run > the better the price. > Ed allowed me some bandwidth on his website to post a picture of one that > was > similar. > I will ask him to post the actually photos now of one resting on a bugeye > tub > I have here. > I also have a forward tilting kit assembly that will allow the bonnet to > easily marry up to the front of almost any sprite or Midget as long as you > don't plan to use a front bumper. > Contact me off the list directly at > frogeye at cox.net > For pictures and or more details, including pricing, if your interested in > creating a different look on your LBC's > Regards > Alan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 11:46:32 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:46:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for 9/16" Shock Nut? In-Reply-To: <001501c97f14$a6d83330$6401a8c0@normoffice> References: <001501c97f14$a6d83330$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901251046n7ffb6d35x58259640c746a15a@mail.gmail.com> Try McMaster Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com If they don't have it they're not available any more. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Norm 2Bs wrote: > Anyone have an idea where I can find the 9/16", 16 castellated nut for the > arm of the front shock on my Spridget other than shock rebuilders? I've > tried NAPA & ACE Hardware. Best I can find is 9/16", 12 or 18. > > Norm Sippel From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 11:56:44 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:56:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite brakes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430901251056r6c7b6f29l123aee5583e4193c@mail.gmail.com> Frank, Cool that you know what is was and where it came from. I hate the unknown when it comes to problems like that. : ) Lin On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 12:28 PM, wrote: > seal from a can of new brake fluid? > > In a message dated 18/01/2009 21:58:41 GMT Standard Time, > spritenut at comcast.net writes: > > It was a 1/2 x 1/4" piece of aluminum foil with plastic on > it, sort of like a gum wrapper or something, > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 12:02:00 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:02:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No more Holy Smokes In-Reply-To: <497B4759.10802@wi.net> References: <497A700E.1020109@comcast.net> <497B4759.10802@wi.net> Message-ID: <205cef430901251102y586856fx47f18683b06394ed@mail.gmail.com> Yea Frank what was the smoke due to? Rings? Glad to see it running so well and that you fixed the break issue. Lin PS Excellent APP article. On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 11:52 AM, David Woerpel wrote: > Way to go!! Can't wait for the article. Any idea why the engine was > smoking? Guides, valves? I know the list said 1098's tend to eradicate > mosquitoes but what's the cause? > > Dave W. > > Frank Clarici wrote: > >> The rebuilt 1098 is in, doesn't leak and does NOT smoke anymore. >> Fr Jack stopped over tonight and could not believe how sweet it runs now >> that it makes a bit more power with compression >> in all 4 cylinders and that the brakes are not locked on anymore. >> We tooled around town top down 28* out for a bit. >> He really needs to learn how to drive a Sprite, he's like an old priest or >> something putting around town shifting at about 2000 rpms. >> He is happy, I am happy, now all I have to do is replace the chinese made >> E brake cable that now, 60 days later, >> is as effective as a spaghetti noodle. >> >> I will post the URL to the newspaper article as soon as it comes out. >> Meanwhile newspaper pictures are on line at http://tinyurl.com/cy2vcuIf anyone missed it. >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kentmclean at comcast.net Sun Jan 25 12:14:03 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:14:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497CB9FB.4040407@comcast.net> Nory wrote; > A friend of mine couldn't get her Miata started, so we thought the > battery was dead (it's been sleeping in the garage for a while). > After charging the battery, the headlights work, but nothing else. > It looks like the main fuse is out. How long was it sitting? I'd look for signs of a critter eating away at some wires, shorting things out. Maybe the ignition switch, but that wouldn't die from sitting. Miatas tend to be as reliable as, well, Toyotas. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 ex 1993 Miata, black & tan w/ C package From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 12:46:49 2009 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:46:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Update on Kellison fiberglass bonnet project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <65613.85429.qm@web51612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Allen, Is it anything like the one on Ebay right now #140297093777??? Perhaps one of yours??? --- On Sun, 1/25/09, Alan wrote: From: Alan Subject: [Spridgets] Update on Kellison fiberglass bonnet project To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 12:22 PM Previously, I had posted that I had a chance to gain access to a vintage mold that created a Kellison style fiberglass bonnet. Several listers had emailed me with varying degrees of interest. I have now started the process and have the first 3 finished. I have a price and final weight since we have had a chance to make sure they came out to my liking. For those that had contacted me early please reply back for further details. Anyone else that's interested, the more that are made in one production run the better the price. Ed allowed me some bandwidth on his website to post a picture of one that was similar. I will ask him to post the actually photos now of one resting on a bugeye tub I have here. I also have a forward tilting kit assembly that will allow the bonnet to easily marry up to the front of almost any sprite or Midget as long as you don't plan to use a front bumper. Contact me off the list directly at frogeye at cox.net For pictures and or more details, including pricing, if your interested in creating a different look on your LBC's Regards Alan You are subscribed as racerbob70 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wbmcleod at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 14:20:46 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:20:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket Message-ID: I'm sitting here with a 3/4" drive socket sized 2 3/8" that I want to put on ebay. What's it for? Thanks, Bill From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 14:23:45 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:23:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <712515.63307.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A Series crank is 1 5/16; rear axle is 1 7/8, steering nut is usually 1 1/16.....I dunno. --- On Sun, 1/25/09, William McLeod wrote: > From: William McLeod > Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket > To: "Spridgets List" , "Triumph List" > Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 3:20 PM > I'm sitting here with a 3/4" drive socket sized 2 > 3/8" that I want to > put on ebay. What's it for? > Thanks, Bill > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jan 25 14:24:40 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:24:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for 9/16" Shock Nut? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901251046n7ffb6d35x58259640c746a15a@mail.gmail.com> References: <001501c97f14$a6d83330$6401a8c0@normoffice> <43840a7e0901251046n7ffb6d35x58259640c746a15a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <66212EF64AE04D38885D192A86B206B7@spider> http://www.britishfasteners.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD &Product_Code=2430 =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:47 AM To: twobees at sprynet.com Cc: Spridgets Digest Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Source for 9/16" Shock Nut? Try McMaster Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com If they don't have it they're not available any more. Cheers!! Jim ================================================== On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Norm 2Bs wrote: > Anyone have an idea where I can find the 9/16", 16 castellated nut for the > arm of the front shock on my Spridget other than shock rebuilders? I've > tried NAPA & ACE Hardware. Best I can find is 9/16", 12 or 18. > > Norm Sippel _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 14:34:55 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:34:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Mo' money for LBC parts - HDMI cables NLBC Message-ID: <91150.89786.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Just a little interesting note on high def cables as you guys may start using the HDTVs and blu-ray players you got for Christmas. I have just completed an a-b comparison of a $70 Monster Cable vs. a $3 www.monoprice.com HDMI 1.3 cable on a high-end Pioneer Kuro display with a latest generation Samsung blu-ray player in a highly controlled environment - dark room, regulated AC power, etc. There is absolutely no perceivable difference. The two people performing the comparison were in complete agreement, and each have 20-15 vision. For yucks, we tried some component video cables as well. The difference between HDMI and component video cables was substantial, though. Back to winter duldrums, Ron From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jan 25 14:34:59 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:34:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Source for 9/16" Shock Nut? In-Reply-To: <66212EF64AE04D38885D192A86B206B7@spider> References: <001501c97f14$a6d83330$6401a8c0@normoffice><43840a7e0901251046n7ffb6d35x58259640c746a15a@mail.gmail.com> <66212EF64AE04D38885D192A86B206B7@spider> Message-ID: <6580D8A2F45B4105B92FE00A81B818FD@spider> I know, I know; use tinyurl http://www.britishfasteners.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=24 30 ------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis at peoplepc.com Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:25 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Source for 9/16" Shock Nut? http://www.britishfasteners.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=24 30 =================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:47 AM To: twobees at sprynet.com Cc: Spridgets Digest Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Source for 9/16" Shock Nut? Try McMaster Carr. http://www.mcmaster.com If they don't have it they're not available any more. Cheers!! Jim ================================================== On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Norm 2Bs wrote: > Anyone have an idea where I can find the 9/16", 16 castellated nut for the > arm of the front shock on my Spridget other than shock rebuilders? I've > tried NAPA & ACE Hardware. Best I can find is 9/16", 12 or 18. > > Norm Sippel _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 14:38:14 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:38:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Source for 9/16" Shock Nut? In-Reply-To: <66212EF64AE04D38885D192A86B206B7@spider> Message-ID: <126579.53354.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Nice link! Jubilee style hose clamps for all you who got Staplet...I mean Monza Weslake 1312's silicone hoses. --- On Sun, 1/25/09, corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > From: corvallis at peoplepc.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Source for 9/16" Shock Nut? > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 3:24 PM > http://www.britishfasteners.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD > 430> &Product_Code=24 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 25 14:38:42 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:38:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm sitting here with a 3/4" drive socket sized 2 3/8" that I want to > put on ebay. What's it for? Big nuts. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 14:43:01 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:43:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Mo' money for LBC parts - HDMI cables NLBC In-Reply-To: <91150.89786.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <91150.89786.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901251343v4c71dd0bn4df699a76ff656a7@mail.gmail.com> I've been buying stuff from monoprice.com for a while. Some stuff we use at the studio. I got a 50' HDMI cable for around $20. The HDMI to DVI adapters work fine, too. My room at the studio has about a 40' throw with about a 20' wide screen with a NEC projector. I do not like Monster cables. We had some Monster RCA cables and the ends were over sized and damaged a $12,000 piece of audio equipment. From wbmcleod at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 14:44:57 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:44:57 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <04AC6FCB-BB0C-4D10-B554-DD6D9262FB28@gmail.com> Well, I've got those! On Jan 25, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> I'm sitting here with a 3/4" drive socket sized 2 3/8" that I want to >> put on ebay. What's it for? > Big nuts. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Jan 25 14:46:04 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:46:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mo' money for LBC parts - HDMI cables NLBC In-Reply-To: <91150.89786.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Monster Cable is a SCAM. I've fixed a number of amps by taking away their expensive cables. BZ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 15:40:01 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:40:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Mo' money for LBC parts - HDMI cables NLBC In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901251343v4c71dd0bn4df699a76ff656a7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <916936.42227.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > I've been buying stuff from monoprice.com for a while. > Some stuff we > use at the studio. Here's another: www.parts-express.com Back to LBCs soon, swear. Ron From nory1 at roadrunner.com Sun Jan 25 16:03:57 2009 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:03:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <497CB9FB.4040407@comcast.net> References: <497CB9FB.4040407@comcast.net> Message-ID: It's been sitting 2 months at the most. Don't see any sign of critters, but ya never know. On Jan 25, 2009, at 2:14 PM, Kent McLean wrote: > Nory wrote; > > A friend of mine couldn't get her Miata started, so we thought the > > battery was dead (it's been sleeping in the garage for a while). > > After charging the battery, the headlights work, but nothing else. > > It looks like the main fuse is out. > > How long was it sitting? I'd look for signs of a critter eating > away at some wires, shorting things out. Maybe the ignition switch, > but that wouldn't die from sitting. Miatas tend to be as reliable > as, well, Toyotas. > > -- > Kent McLean > '56 100 BN2 > ex 1993 Miata, black & tan w/ C package > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nory1 at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 16:14:55 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:14:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910901251514n6f8eb7eic2331259681c5c68@mail.gmail.com> There's a "Main Fuse"? I am not familiar with that. Miatas do, however have a switch on the clutch so that the starter won't engage without the clutch pedal being depressed. You may check that. From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 16:36:14 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:36:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901251536u40388d5cob40c75430e25cd49@mail.gmail.com> ...something large!?! From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 18:23:51 2009 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:23:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <256907.97413.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I had a set of 3/4" and 1" drive sockets that we used on very large industrial air compressors. Some had head fasteners sized upwards of 3 1/2". --- On Sun, 1/25/09, William McLeod wrote: I'm sitting here with a 3/4" drive socket sized 2 3/8" that I want to put on ebay. What's it for? Thanks, Bill _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Sun Jan 25 18:30:24 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:30:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Motorhead 101 - Extreme Prius Message-ID: Something for your 'winter' 'minds'!!! Ed ***************************************************** Subject: Motorhead 101 - Extreme Prius submitted by Geoff , Portland, OR ----- Great stuff!!!!!!!!!! http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/22/the-most-obnoxiously-tuned-toy ota-prius-ever/ I would RATHER have the MONEY!!! From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Jan 25 18:34:46 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:34:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: <256907.97413.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <256907.97413.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Is that the size of the hex plugs on either end of antique home water radiators? ...bill in oregon ================================================== --- On Sun, 1/25/09, William McLeod wrote: I'm sitting here with a 3/4" drive socket sized 2 3/8" that I want To put on eBay. What's it for? Thanks, Bill ______________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sun Jan 25 18:35:25 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:35:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC, but LJK Message-ID: <2725C183F526414882858571F3C146FF@midget> Willy Thompson and I joined the Chicago MINI Motoring Club today at Chicago Indoor Racing http://www.chicagoindoorracing.com/ We had the whole track (most events run on one half or the other) for a 45-minute enduro. 17 teams of 2 randomly assigned people each. Doesn't sound like much, but I am going to be hurting tomorrow! There isn't much time between one turn and the next. My teammate does the Joliet Autobahn track on his motorcycle and he assures me that this is a lot more work. I think I believe him. We opted to do it with a single driver change halfway through rather than the more usual . Fun though... I have been to the CIR a few times before, but this was the first (and probably only) time I have done 23 minutes at a time. Sure sounds pathetic, don't it? David Lieb From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun Jan 25 18:36:13 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:36:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: <256907.97413.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: , <256907.97413.qm@web51902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <497CA30D.21679.1FEDB1C@kk7ss.verizon.net> Axle nut?? I have a set from 2.0" to 3.5" in 1/8th increments... I'm keeping them.... you never know when.... On 25 Jan 2009 at 17:23, Red Midget wrote: >> I'm sitting here with a 3/4" drive socket sized 2 3/8" that I want to >> put on ebay. What's it for? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From nory1 at roadrunner.com Sun Jan 25 19:34:31 2009 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:34:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901251514n6f8eb7eic2331259681c5c68@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901251514n6f8eb7eic2331259681c5c68@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I believe her Miata is an automatic (yeah, I know - senseless, isn't it?) On Jan 25, 2009, at 6:14 PM, derf wrote: > There's a "Main Fuse"? I am not familiar with that. Miatas do, > however have a switch on the clutch so that the starter won't engage > without the clutch pedal being depressed. You may check that. From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 19:57:07 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:57:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC, but LJK In-Reply-To: <2725C183F526414882858571F3C146FF@midget> Message-ID: <935026.3992.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 1/25/09, David Lieb wrote: > assigned people each. Doesn't sound like much, but I am > going to be hurting tomorrow! There isn't much time A few of us vintage guys rented Sugar River (www.sugarriverraceway.com) in 2007 and the bruises are still on my arms. It's A LOT of work. Peter C. has pretty much sworn off it forever. Ron From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 25 20:22:49 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:22:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC, but indoor karting In-Reply-To: <2725C183F526414882858571F3C146FF@midget> Message-ID: <572194.35504.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 1/25/09, David Lieb wrote:"Willy Thompson and I joined the Chicago MINI Motoring Club today at Chicago Indoor Racing" It must have been the day for indoor karting because Kyle and I did the same thing this morning. We joined other members of our MG Club in answer to a challenge from the local Triumph club. This place has slick concrete floors - they apparently add talc to them for even more fun - and electric Karts. Great fun. You end up basically doing a drifting race around each corner. I think Kyle got FTD (he had a significant weight advantage over many of us there) but drew a really loose kart for the final "championship" race and came in mid-pack. Oh well, we're doing it again in a few weeks. www.karts1.com David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From: David Lieb Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC, but LJK To: "Spridgets" Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 7:35 PM Willy Thompson and I joined the Chicago MINI Motoring Club today at Chicago Indoor Racing http://www.chicagoindoorracing.com/ We had the whole track (most events run on one half or the other) for a 45-minute enduro. 17 teams of 2 randomly assigned people each. Doesn't sound like much, but I am going to be hurting tomorrow! There isn't much time between one turn and the next. My teammate does the Joliet Autobahn track on his motorcycle and he assures me that this is a lot more work. I think I believe him. We opted to do it with a single driver change halfway through rather than the more usual . Fun though... I have been to the CIR a few times before, but this was the first (and probably only) time I have done 23 minutes at a time. Sure sounds pathetic, don't it? David Lieb _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From Mjsprite at aol.com Sun Jan 25 21:18:05 2009 From: Mjsprite at aol.com (Mjsprite at aol.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:18:05 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket Message-ID: Used as a seal driver. Mike **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From wbmcleod at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 21:26:11 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:26:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can herd seals? Bill On Jan 25, 2009, at 9:18 PM, Mjsprite at aol.com wrote: > Used as a seal driver. > Mike > > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sun Jan 25 22:11:06 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:11:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Mo' money for LBC parts - HDMI cables NLBC In-Reply-To: <916936.42227.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910901251343v4c71dd0bn4df699a76ff656a7@mail.gmail.com> <916936.42227.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here's another! www.mycablemart.com Mike MacLean On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > I've been buying stuff from monoprice.com for a while. > > Some stuff we > > use at the studio. > > Here's another: > > www.parts-express.com > > Back to LBCs soon, swear. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Jan 25 22:22:02 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:22:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <497D487A.5040505@comcast.net> William McLeod wrote: > You can herd seals? > > I have heard of people *blowing seals* From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Jan 25 22:30:29 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:30:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: <497D487A.5040505@comcast.net> References: <497D487A.5040505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901252130s51279404q894eac3de9bb8d86@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > William McLeod wrote: > >> You can herd seals? >> >> >> > I have heard of people *blowing seals* No. That's just ice cream. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Jan 25 22:53:53 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:53:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: <497D487A.5040505@comcast.net> References: <497D487A.5040505@comcast.net> Message-ID: <003001c97f7a$78a29b70$69e7d250$@net> WAY too much time on everyone's hands..BUT that is what you get for living in the damned eastern states...LOL. Here it was a cool 50 degrees but still managed to take Iris out for a drive today and put on some of the Hardi Plank siding on my building. Little by little it is getting done:) Then Iris will have a place to hide out rather than her enclosed trailer. Might even be able to put up the banner from LOTO. Now if I could just figure out where to bury that b***h of a neighbors wife who TOTALLY pissed me off today with her mouth. My wife almost fell over when she heard me tell that ***** to get the **** back on her side of the fence and shut up. If you have EVER had a neighbor problem it can be a real PIA... With the wife's medical issues I really am not in the mood to deal with their bullshit. WISH THEY WOULD RETIRE AND MOVE. If any of you have ever dealt with an EXON Chemical plant supervisor you would understand what I am talking about when trying to reason with one. Like totally clueless and they think they should be bowed down to when talking to them. Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: 1/24/2009 8:40 PM From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Mon Jan 26 00:00:51 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:00:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC..Just funny heaqdlines In-Reply-To: <91150.89786.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <91150.89786.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003901c97f83$d328a770$7979f650$@net> Man Kills Self Before Shooting Wife and Daughter This one I caught in the SGV Tribune the other day and called the Editorial Room and asked who wrote this. It took two or three readings before the editor realized that what he was reading was impossible!!! They put in a correction the next day. ________________________________________ I just couldn't help but sending this along. Too funny. Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says No, really? 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Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1914 - Release Date: 1/24/2009 8:40 PM From wbmcleod at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 00:05:23 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:05:23 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Mystery socket In-Reply-To: <497D487A.5040505@comcast.net> References: <497D487A.5040505@comcast.net> Message-ID: Well, now that I think on it, I heard seals one time near San Fransisco.... As to that other, I better not say anything. On Jan 25, 2009, at 10:22 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > William McLeod wrote: >> You can herd seals? >> >> > I have heard of people *blowing seals* From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 08:14:06 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:14:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Warning! Older scam has been revamped.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0901260714g6a958607uda99d1b4cc2f963f@mail.gmail.com> Just got a new and improved version of this in my email.... If you get an email with the subject: "Economic Stimulus Payment online form [Message ID: STM-839.2381]Delete it or report it to Another Phishing scheme. The web server is in Estonia! -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 08:43:07 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:43:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Other forums Message-ID: I know someone that is working on a 68 Mustang, and he is looking for a vintage Mustang forum, similar to what we have here. Thanks, Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From stevenm at optonline.net Mon Jan 26 09:09:59 2009 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:09:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Other forums References: Message-ID: <65A3817E59334BEA8C6C28425D7BC010@1705n3> 30,000 threads and a quarter million posts. Wow. http://mustangforums.com/forum/classic-mustangs-16/ Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Fornal To: Spridgets ; Yahoo Spridget list Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: [midgetsprite] Other forums I know someone that is working on a 68 Mustang, and he is looking for a vintage Mustang forum, similar to what we have here. Thanks, Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Calendar MARKETPLACE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity a.. 2New Members b.. 9New Files Visit Your Group Yahoo! News Odd News You won't believe it, but it's true Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Yahoo! Groups Special K Challenge Join others who are losing pounds. . __,_._,___ From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jan 26 09:29:15 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:29:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <66F10E2E-C6C8-4B11-8D79-0EB0733B1E50@mac.com> Nory, First, like a number of newer cars there are circuits active when the ignition is off. For instance on the Miata the gas gage is still active with the ignition off. The Miata has a rather small battery. This early in the morning I can not think what type but setting they will run down and if they are dead or close to dead they usually will not come back to life. Mine was replaced twice before figuring out what was happening. So I always keep it on a maintenance charger - no more battery prolbems. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 25, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Nory wrote: > I know some of you have Miatas, so maybe you can answer a question > for me. > > A friend of mine couldn't get her Miata started, so we thought the > battery was dead (it's been sleeping in the garage for a while). > After charging the battery, the headlights work, but nothing else. > It looks like the main fuse is out. It looks pretty easy to > replace (am I right????), but we were wondering what may have > caused the fuse to blow. Does she have another issue going on that > might be a problem? Is there anything I need to know before > replacing the fuse? > > Thanks! > > -Nory > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From andrewpayne at intrex.net Mon Jan 26 09:38:57 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:38:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <66F10E2E-C6C8-4B11-8D79-0EB0733B1E50@mac.com> References: <66F10E2E-C6C8-4B11-8D79-0EB0733B1E50@mac.com> Message-ID: <2682477550E648068EE04525BAD3144D@AndrewHP> My '92 Miata's original Panasonic battery failed shortly after buying the car in '99. It then ate replacement batteries until I ponied up the $ ($90 at the time) and bought the Westco gel-cell battery. It never hesitated in the 4 years after I replaced prior to selling the car. Buy the real thing. That said, it may not be the starting problem. Have you consulted www.miata.net ? Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kitterer Bob Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:29 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question Nory, First, like a number of newer cars there are circuits active when the ignition is off. For instance on the Miata the gas gage is still active with the ignition off. The Miata has a rather small battery. This early in the morning I can not think what type but setting they will run down and if they are dead or close to dead they usually will not come back to life. Mine was replaced twice before figuring out what was happening. So I always keep it on a maintenance charger - no more battery prolbems. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Jan 26 10:50:34 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:50:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Warning! Older scam has been revamped.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901260714g6a958607uda99d1b4cc2f963f@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0901260714g6a958607uda99d1b4cc2f963f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: WAIT ONE DAMN MINUTE! Estonia is the new China, it's just outsourcing, and it's been found that they speak English even worse than the folks at MS tech support.. current company excluded of course.. ;-) Lester On Jan 26, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Just got a new and improved version of this in my email.... If you > get an > email with the subject: "Economic Stimulus Payment online form > [Message ID: > STM-839.2381]Delete it or report it to Another Phishing > scheme. The web server is in Estonia! > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong > enough > to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye > Sprite Club, please send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member > of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ > and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive > any emails. > MARKETPLACE > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > RECENT ACTIVITY > 3 > New Members > 21 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > Yahoo! News > Get it all here > Breaking news to > entertainment news > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > Yahoo! Groups > Special K Challenge > Join others who > are losing pounds. > . > > __,_._,___ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Jan 26 11:11:44 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:11:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] for most of us Message-ID: http://usedwigs.com/classic-car-guy/ not me of course! From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 26 11:14:58 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:14:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Bugeye - any ideas? Message-ID: <402509.15212.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> A guy I work with heard about the Holy Sprite project and came to me looking for a Bugeye. I told him I'd pass the word on to this group. Other than me acting as liason between him and the group, I have no interest in it and will make nothing... yada-yada-yada. He's looking for a complete or near complete car, but wants little to no rust. He doesn't care whether it runs (but running sure makes it easier to get transportation across the country if needed). He's in Connecticut, but is willing to buy the right car regardless of where in the country it currently resides. He plans to do the restoration himself, but will sub out any paint and body work (which is why he wants a relatively good body). He's not afraid of suspension, engine, electrical, interior, etc. work. On the other hand he doesn't absolutely have to do a restoration, so if you have a decent looking and running car you want to sell, don't hesitate to tell me about that too. If anybody has one or knows of one for sale, let me know off line and I'll put you in touch with him. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 26 11:24:29 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:24:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Other forums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > vintage Mustang forum, They're not like here. I'm on a Ranchero forum. There are only a couple of higher functioning member that can actually construct complete sentences. He won't learn anything there except that bigger numbers are always better. BZ From redmidget72 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 26 11:30:13 2009 From: redmidget72 at yahoo.com (Red Midget) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:30:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Other forums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <986177.36597.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ain't no Forum like Our Forum! --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Brad Fornal wrote: I know someone that is working on a 68 Mustang, and he is looking for a vintage Mustang forum, similar to what we have here. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 11:35:33 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:35:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Other forums In-Reply-To: <986177.36597.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <986177.36597.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: which is exactly why I used the word "similar". I can't imagine another bunch of "gentlefolk" like us anywhere else... On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Red Midget wrote: > Ain't no Forum like Our Forum! > > --- On *Mon, 1/26/09, Brad Fornal * wrote: > > I know someone that is working on a 68 Mustang, and he is looking for a > vintage Mustang forum, similar to what we have here. > > > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 12:36:46 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:36:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901261136o10d15bcdtce9aee2256e809df@mail.gmail.com> This came via the Wedge list. Another attempt to do away with our 'fun'! Herb Below is a link to a recent publication from SEMA on the cash for clunkers program. Some of you might be interested. You may have to copy and paste the URL into your browser as it is a long one. http://echo.bluehornet.com/hostedemail/email.htm?h=2a0e24df6a094fecb259f61ec74d7dee&CID=1440296610&ch=FD7C1969FD33D77F8A8A7CE4741D8F44 From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jan 26 12:44:31 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:44:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Bugeye - any ideas? In-Reply-To: <402509.15212.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <402509.15212.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <312FD83D7E9F47F3BF031890453D2C6B@Home> Aren't we all looking for that car? Let's keep it on the list, first. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From tinydog at snet.net Mon Jan 26 12:46:10 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:46:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10901261136o10d15bcdtce9aee2256e809df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <012620091946.18751.497E13020009C7B30000493F22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog growled: This is the 3rd time around on this thread. What's tomorrow's thread going to be? News about the upcoming celebrations for the 50th anniversary of the Sprite? -------------- Original message from WFO Herb : -------------- > This came via the Wedge list. > > Another attempt to do away with our 'fun'! > > Herb > > > > Below is a link to a recent publication from SEMA on the cash for clunkers > program. Some of you might be interested. You may have to copy and paste the > URL into your browser as it is a long one. > > > > http://echo.bluehornet.com/hostedemail/email.htm?h=2a0e24df6a094fecb259f61ec7 4d7 > dee&CID=1440296610&ch=FD7C1969FD33D77F8A8A7CE4741D8F44 From jdinnis at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 13:11:57 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:11:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <012620091946.18751.497E13020009C7B30000493F22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <2ad6c6b10901261136o10d15bcdtce9aee2256e809df@mail.gmail.com> <012620091946.18751.497E13020009C7B30000493F22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: Funny thing is most LBC's won't be affected by this. I think the plan was aimed at cars with REALLY bad fuel efficency. Now the fans of those 60's and 70's vintage detroit iron, they have something to be worried about. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:46 PM, wrote: > tinydog growled: > > This is the 3rd time around on this thread. > > What's tomorrow's thread going to be? News about the upcoming celebrations for > the 50th anniversary of the Sprite? > > -------------- Original message from WFO Herb : > -------------- > > >> This came via the Wedge list. >> >> Another attempt to do away with our 'fun'! >> >> Herb >> >> >> >> Below is a link to a recent publication from SEMA on the cash for clunkers >> program. Some of you might be interested. You may have to copy and paste > the >> URL into your browser as it is a long one. >> >> >> >> > http://echo.bluehornet.com/hostedemail/email.htm?h=2a0e24df6a094fecb259f61ec7 > 4d7 >> dee&CID=1440296610&ch=FD7C1969FD33D77F8A8A7CE4741D8F44 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From fastvee at yahoo.com Mon Jan 26 13:20:48 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:20:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO Message-ID: <941175.2440.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> We are all car enthusiasts! One day it may take all the help we can get to keep our cars on the road. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Mon, 1/26/09, John Innis wrote: Funny thing is most LBC's won't be affected by this. I think the plan was aimed at cars with REALLY bad fuel efficency. Now the fans of those 60's and 70's vintage detroit iron, they have something to be worried about. From tinydog at snet.net Mon Jan 26 13:24:08 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:24:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <941175.2440.qm@web34405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <012620092024.21758.497E1BE8000307AE000054FE22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog predicted: My crystal ball says that some will even resort to installing Nissan and Ford transmissions and non-Lucas electrical components. Just a thought. -------------- Original message from fastvee : -------------- > We are all car enthusiasts! One day it may take all the help we can get to keep our cars on the road. > John > Fogelsville, PA > > - From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 26 14:07:53 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:07:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Italian Job solved ( the movie ) Message-ID: http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/01/23/italian-job.html From fastvee at yahoo.com Mon Jan 26 14:53:03 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:53:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO Message-ID: <532232.37317.qm@web34406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ah let me rephrase that... Good one tinydog. John Fogelsville, PA --- On Mon, 1/26/09, tinydog at snet.net wrote: From: tinydog at snet.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 3:24 PM tinydog predicted: My crystal ball says that some will even resort to installing Nissan and Ford transmissions and non-Lucas electrical components. Just a thought. -------------- Original message from fastvee : -------------- > We are all car enthusiasts! One day it may take all the help we can get to keep our cars on the road. > John > Fogelsville, PA > > - You are subscribed as fastvee at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 26 14:54:51 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:54:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: References: <2ad6c6b10901261136o10d15bcdtce9aee2256e809df@mail.gmail.com><012620091946.18751.497E13020009C7B30000493F22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: Maybe. But you should stick together as a big group rather than letting them knock you off one little group at a time. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Innis Funny thing is most LBC's won't be affected by this. I think the plan was aimed at cars with REALLY bad fuel efficency. Now the fans of those 60's and 70's vintage detroit iron, they have something to be worried about. From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 15:06:56 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:06:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Bugeye - any ideas? In-Reply-To: <402509.15212.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <402509.15212.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/976386982.html On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:14 PM, David Booker wrote: A guy I work with heard about the Holy Sprite project and came to me looking for a Bugeye. I enquired about it and he sent some pictures. It did not look bad, especially for what he wants for it. He had a buyer but the deal fell through. Since it is still listed I assume he still has it. NFI, blah, blah, yada, yada -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Jan 26 15:31:30 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:31:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite at Lime Rock Message-ID: <8255.46090.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> On page 9 of the February issue of Healey Marque, take a look at picture #3. Note the wire wheels, rhd, modified grille, front anti-roll bar and, most importantly, the modified fender line right above the meatball. Unless I miss my guess, that's one of the 1961 factory Sebring cars. Another tell-tale is the bonnet latch at the top of the scuttle. These are the metal ones as used on the 100S. You can just make one out on the left side of the steering wheel looking from the front. Now compare this to the pics on pp 128 and 130 of "More Healeys". Wonder if the car had made it into the hands of a privateer at this point? And to make matters more interesting, Healey collector extraordinaire Bill Wood, whom you might remember brought the 1967 factory Sebring car to Spritefest, found a factory 1961 Sebring Sprite in a body shop close by Lime Rock a number of years ago. Maybe the same car? Rick From tinydog at snet.net Mon Jan 26 15:35:57 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:35:57 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps Message-ID: <012620092235.27520.497E3ACD00016F6600006B8022216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog inquired: Okay. If you were a small dog that wanted a big sound when playing guitar in the doghouse, would you go for a Fender Princeton, Champ, Vibro Champ, AC-15, or? I'm interested in a tube amp that won't make my master discipline me, but still give me that sweet tone. I'm willing to buy vintage and assume the Chonese/Asian links don't live up to their hype. You can discuss bigger amps but I don't think I need/want anything more than 15-30 watts. Help me out. Throw me a bone. Thanks. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 15:46:11 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:46:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901261446s322cedafh758f40fb4c9b3fd@mail.gmail.com> References: <012620092235.27520.497E3ACD00016F6600006B8022216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <5f00d9910901261446s322cedafh758f40fb4c9b3fd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901261446m3b4be8fl7e64aa5ea715dc45@mail.gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: derf Date: Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps To: tinydog at snet.net I like the Princeton. Although I will admit I sold most of my stuff and kept an old Kustom solid state amp from way back when and got a Line 6 POD for pre amp tones. The POD is cool if you want to play through headphones or if you need to play straight into a PA system. It is a fair substitute for most sounds you might want. But, some still swear by good ole tubes. I am more of a Humbucker/Shredder guy, though. From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Jan 26 15:51:50 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:51:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Bugeye - any ideas? In-Reply-To: References: <402509.15212.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2A823C7190EA4A16897CE513251B47E5@Home> > http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/976386982.html > I enquired about it and he sent some pictures. It did not look bad, > especially for what he wants for it. He had a buyer but the deal fell > through. Since it is still listed I assume he still has it. I also got those pictures, and unless you got different ones from me, there is no information on the condition of the undercarriage. Given the rotted out rear quarter, that should be a concern. I have already been bitten once by a completely destroyed underbody. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Mon Jan 26 16:06:45 2009 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:06:45 EST Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps Message-ID: The Champ or VibroChamp will sound real good at a relatively low volume level (but keep in mind that even three to five watts can be pretty loud) but will not be playable with a band, even if the drummer can play at a reasonably low volume. The Princeton and AC15 will sound pretty darn good even at a low volume, but are loud enough to at least give you some flexibility to play with a band. I play out often with an old 1961 Gibson made Epiphone amp that's 15 watts - with a very efficient 12 inch Red Fang speaker. The Princeton has a 10 inch speaker and the AC 15 a 12. I'd personally go for the AC15 'cause I've got a decent selection of small 15 to 20 watt amps that are 6v6 tubes, and an AC15 would be a change of pace. If it were to be my main amp - I'd go with the Princeton. BZ knows tons about amps so listen to what he says. Good luck. TuTone In a message dated 1/26/2009 4:36:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, tinydog at snet.net writes: tinydog inquired: Okay. If you were a small dog that wanted a big sound when playing guitar in the doghouse, would you go for a Fender Princeton, Champ, Vibro Champ, AC-15, or? I'm interested in a tube amp that won't make my master discipline me, but still give me that sweet tone. I'm willing to buy vintage and assume the Chonese/Asian links don't live up to their hype. You can discuss bigger amps but I don't think I need/want anything more than 15-30 watts. Help me out. Throw me a bone. Thanks. You are subscribed as tmheffron at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 26 16:35:56 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:35:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: <012620092235.27520.497E3ACD00016F6600006B8022216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: > anything more than 15-30 watts That's enough to play concert venues. A watt will get you evicted. I'd suggest a good 4 watt, with an L-pad. Something like the little gold and copper one would be good. http://gretschpages.com/forum/billy-zooms-jet-set/a-vist-to-zoom-studios-and -a-listen-to-the-prototy/18065/page1/ From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jan 26 16:40:54 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:40:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <012620091946.18751.497E13020009C7B30000493F22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <012620091946.18751.497E13020009C7B30000493F22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <413B03E8-5964-4252-B4C8-6FADEC09781C@mac.com> This is a new one - clunkers are anything older than 2004 and gets less than 18 mpg. They may give you $4,200 IF you have it crushed and buy a new vehicle that gets at least 30 mpg. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, tinydog at snet.net wrote: > tinydog growled: > > This is the 3rd time around on this thread. > > What's tomorrow's thread going to be? News about the upcoming > celebrations for > the 50th anniversary of the Sprite? > > -------------- Original message from WFO Herb : > -------------- From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Jan 26 16:45:05 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:45:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO Message-ID: <121eb01c98010$1d42f810$116a010a@mail2world.com> That describes my 2000 Ford Ranger 4.0L. With the sucky winter gas it's been getting about 16mpg. Other than that, it's in good shape, certainly not what I'd call a "clunker". I doubt anyone would crush it. I have a '91 Tercel with 252K that could be called a "clunker" by some, blue, kinda rusty, green drivers side door. worth maybe $500 tops. Bit it runs great and gets 33-35mpg.... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Kitterer Bob [bkitterer at mac.com] >Sent: 1/26/2009 6:41:54 PM >To: Spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO > >This is a new one - clunkers are anything older than 2004 and gets >less than 18 mpg. They may give you $4,200 IF you have it crushed >and buy a new vehicle that gets at least 30 mpg. > >Bob Kitterer > >1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > >On Jan 26, 2009, at 11:46 AM, tinydog at snet.net wrote: > >> tinydog growled: >> >> This is the 3rd time around on this thread. >> >> What's tomorrow's thread going to be? News about the upcoming >> celebrations for >> the 50th anniversary of the Sprite? >> >> -------------- Original message from WFO Herb : >> -------------- >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jan 26 16:52:32 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:52:32 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <121eb01c98010$1d42f810$116a010a@mail2world.com> References: <121eb01c98010$1d42f810$116a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <3C455DA5-56F7-4A06-81BE-7A3B7E30A906@mac.com> My suggestion is to go to the SEMA link to read the proposal - I just included the write up in our club newsletter. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 26, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Chris King wrote: > That describes my 2000 Ford Ranger 4.0L. With the sucky winter gas > it's been getting about 16mpg. Other than that, it's in good shape, > certainly not what I'd call a "clunker". I doubt anyone would crush > it. > > I have a '91 Tercel with 252K that could be called a "clunker" by > some, blue, kinda rusty, green drivers side door. worth maybe $500 > tops. Bit it runs great and gets 33-35mpg.... > > -=Chris > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > <-----Original Message-----> > >From: Kitterer Bob [bkitterer at mac.com] > >Sent: 1/26/2009 6:41:54 PM > >To: Spridgets at autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO > > > >This is a new one - clunkers are anything older than 2004 and gets > >less than 18 mpg. They may give you $4,200 IF you have it crushed > >and buy a new vehicle that gets at least 30 mpg. > > > >Bob Kitterer From nory1 at roadrunner.com Mon Jan 26 17:02:10 2009 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (Nory) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:02:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <66F10E2E-C6C8-4B11-8D79-0EB0733B1E50@mac.com> References: <66F10E2E-C6C8-4B11-8D79-0EB0733B1E50@mac.com> Message-ID: <161F3F52-AB0A-492D-88B3-0EFD7C20E38C@roadrunner.com> I know the battery was dead, but what caused the main fuse to blow? And is it easy to replace? On Jan 26, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Nory, > > First, like a number of newer cars there are circuits active when the > ignition is off. For instance on the Miata the gas gage is still > active with the ignition off. The Miata has a rather small battery. > This early in the morning I can not think what type but setting they > will run down and if they are dead or close to dead they usually will > not come back to life. Mine was replaced twice before figuring out > what was happening. So I always keep it on a maintenance charger - > no more battery prolbems. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > On Jan 25, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Nory wrote: > >> I know some of you have Miatas, so maybe you can answer a question >> for me. >> >> A friend of mine couldn't get her Miata started, so we thought the >> battery was dead (it's been sleeping in the garage for a while). >> After charging the battery, the headlights work, but nothing else. >> It looks like the main fuse is out. It looks pretty easy to >> replace (am I right????), but we were wondering what may have >> caused the fuse to blow. Does she have another issue going on that >> might be a problem? Is there anything I need to know before >> replacing the fuse? >> >> Thanks! >> >> -Nory >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nory1 at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 17:05:49 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:05:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: References: <012620092235.27520.497E3ACD00016F6600006B8022216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901261605n3fe2f567oaf53aeee9c47faa8@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm.... My knowledge is extensive enough to recognize a first position "D" chord, Billy ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > anything more than 15-30 watts > That's enough to play concert venues. A watt will get you evicted. > I'd suggest a good 4 watt, with an L-pad. > Something like the little gold and copper one would be good. > > > http://gretschpages.com/forum/billy-zooms-jet-set/a-vist-to-zoom-studios-and > -a-listen-to-the-prototy/18065/page1/ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Jan 26 17:13:23 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:13:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <161F3F52-AB0A-492D-88B3-0EFD7C20E38C@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: > but what caused the main fuse to blow? What's a "main fuse"? Starters aren't fused. From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 17:34:25 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:34:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: References: <161F3F52-AB0A-492D-88B3-0EFD7C20E38C@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901261634h77b4c47dq8a5096a32cdd52f1@mail.gmail.com> >> but what caused the main fuse to blow? > What's a "main fuse"? Starters aren't fused. +1. Again, I've never heard of a "Main Fuse", either. From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jan 26 17:53:35 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:53:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <161F3F52-AB0A-492D-88B3-0EFD7C20E38C@roadrunner.com> References: <66F10E2E-C6C8-4B11-8D79-0EB0733B1E50@mac.com> <161F3F52-AB0A-492D-88B3-0EFD7C20E38C@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <36792332-A0D3-46BB-AFD7-D42DEADCB03D@mac.com> Nory, I have no clue why the fuse would blow. I will send you scans of the pages in the 2000 owners manual on fuses you can see if they help. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 26, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Nory wrote: > I know the battery was dead, but what caused the main fuse to > blow? And is it easy to replace? > > > On Jan 26, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > >> Nory, >> >> First, like a number of newer cars there are circuits active when the >> ignition is off. For instance on the Miata the gas gage is still >> active with the ignition off. The Miata has a rather small battery. >> This early in the morning I can not think what type but setting they >> will run down and if they are dead or close to dead they usually will >> not come back to life. Mine was replaced twice before figuring out >> what was happening. So I always keep it on a maintenance charger - >> no more battery prolbems. >> >> Bob Kitterer >> >> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >> 2000 Miata Special Edition From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Mon Jan 26 17:55:52 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:55:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090127005556.ZWSG6616.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> I have something like that which lives under my front seat of my BMW. If that fuse goes, only a couple things work like hazards and locks. Not sure about the starter, but I'm not about to test it. I recall someone dropping a wrench over a battery in a Mitsubishi and surprisingly not welding itself to it, but blowing a main fuse like that -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 6:13 PM To: Nory; Kitterer Bob Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question > but what caused the main fuse to blow? What's a "main fuse"? Starters aren't fused. You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Jan 26 18:06:31 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:06:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <413B03E8-5964-4252-B4C8-6FADEC09781C@mac.com> Message-ID: <520971.73163.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Kitterer Bob wrote: > This is a new one - clunkers are anything older than 2004 > and gets > less than 18 mpg. They may give you $4,200 IF you have it > crushed > and buy a new vehicle that gets at least 30 mpg. Oooh! Let's chip in and get Pelosi an '03 and weld the doors shut. I can get my hands on a diesel truck that gets 30.... EdNon From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Mon Jan 26 18:12:51 2009 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:12:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports Message-ID: <50419.72.64.9.187.1233018771.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Has anyone found a suitable substitute for the bugeye bonnet supports that sel for about $60 each? Has anyone used replacement tailgate pnematic tubes like those used on SUVs? I've seen them in the auto parts places for about $25 each. Comments? Obviously mine isn't a concourse restoration, but I'd rather use something nicer that the current piece of wood. Dick in NH Waiting in single digit temps for more snow From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 26 18:20:53 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:20:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Other forums References: <986177.36597.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > which is exactly why I used the word "similar". I can't imagine another > bunch of "gentlefolk" like us anywhere else... I hate to bust your bubble, but I have found other groups of Spridgeteers that are just as nice as this one (nicer than some specimens). I think it is the fault of the cars rather than the List itself... For that matter, it seems to be that the smaller the car, the nicer the owners. Anyone have a Berkeley for sale? ;-) David Lieb From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Jan 26 18:33:17 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 17:33:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question Message-ID: <16b5a01c9801f$3af3d690$116a010a@mail2world.com> BTDT on a Toyota. It was a 50A fuse that's in/near the positive clamp for the battery. I guess it keeps the smoke in the rest of the harness (and the PCM computer!) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Chris Manuel [cmanuel at wi.rr.com] >Sent: 1/26/2009 7:56:52 PM >To: billyzoom at billyzoom.com;nory1 at roadrunner.com;bkitterer at mac.com >Cc: Spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question > > >I recall someone dropping a wrench over a battery in a Mitsubishi and >surprisingly not welding itself to it, but blowing a main fuse like that From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 18:42:27 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:42:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <16b5a01c9801f$3af3d690$116a010a@mail2world.com> References: <16b5a01c9801f$3af3d690$116a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901261742u59cdc88exf390effe8bae43f7@mail.gmail.com> While I've never dealt with one, my 94 Miata wiring diagram shows an 80A "Main Fuse" in an area labeled "Main fuse block (Right rear corner of engine compartment)" It appears to be inline with the alternator. If it is blown, I'd suspect the alternator. The starter is not in the circuit with it. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Jan 26 18:50:02 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:50:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question References: <16b5a01c9801f$3af3d690$116a010a@mail2world.com> <5f00d9910901261742u59cdc88exf390effe8bae43f7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8909F1B3A73E453BBCA8D069C52F0D40@midget> Another possibility is that someone tried to jumpstart the car, crossed the cables up and fried it. OTOH, thanks to a friend of mine, I know that if you insist on fitting the battery cables to the wrong posts, you fry the ECM. Glad he did it to his own car! David Lieb From kgrowler at aol.com Mon Jan 26 18:50:55 2009 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:50:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. Message-ID: <8CB4E38D3B851B3-75C-868@WEBMAIL-MY08.sysops.aol.com> I received an e-mail tonight that Tom Raddatz is selling his RV8, This is still, so far as I am aware, the only actual RV8 is the U.S. The car is located in Chicago. I would be happy to forward any inquiries to Tom. Firm price of $25,000. I have seen and driven the car. I wish I had a spare 25K laying around. Kim Tonry Downers Grove, Illinois U.S.A. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Mon Jan 26 19:02:45 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:02:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: References: <161F3F52-AB0A-492D-88B3-0EFD7C20E38C@roadrunner.com> Message-ID: <819B1DD2D0B745869738F6A0282BC738@AndrewHP> I don't recall a mention of year, but in my Haynes manual covering 1990-1997, the main fuse (80amp) connects to the negative ground of the "Main Fuse Box". Then it runs a white wire to the ignition switch and alternator. That is all it supplies. I can send a scan of the diagram, but there's not much on the circuit. I did once blow a main fuse my sister's friend's MX-6 while changing her oil. My strap wrench shorted a cable while on the filter. There was a frayed wire coming from the alternator. It burned a hole through the filter and halfway through the wrench handle. By the way, she was not impressed. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:13 PM To: Nory; Kitterer Bob Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question > but what caused the main fuse to blow? What's a "main fuse"? Starters aren't fused. You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 19:04:33 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:04:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <819B1DD2D0B745869738F6A0282BC738@AndrewHP> References: <161F3F52-AB0A-492D-88B3-0EFD7C20E38C@roadrunner.com> <819B1DD2D0B745869738F6A0282BC738@AndrewHP> Message-ID: Not impressed huh? Some folks will do anything to get out of changing other peoples oil.... On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > I don't recall a mention of year, but in my Haynes manual covering > 1990-1997, the main fuse (80amp) connects to the negative ground of the > "Main Fuse Box". Then it runs a white wire to the ignition switch and > alternator. That is all it supplies. I can send a scan of the diagram, > but > there's not much on the circuit. > > I did once blow a main fuse my sister's friend's MX-6 while changing her > oil. My strap wrench shorted a cable while on the filter. There was a > frayed wire coming from the alternator. It burned a hole through the filter > and halfway through the wrench handle. > > By the way, she was not impressed. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:13 PM > To: Nory; Kitterer Bob > Cc: Spridgets > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question > > > but what caused the main fuse to blow? > What's a "main fuse"? Starters aren't fused. > You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jan 26 19:07:26 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:07:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <16b5a01c9801f$3af3d690$116a010a@mail2world.com> References: <16b5a01c9801f$3af3d690$116a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: There is an 80 amp on the Miata - I still do not know what/how it is wired in. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:33 PM, Chris King wrote: > BTDT on a Toyota. It was a 50A fuse that's in/near the positive > clamp for the battery. I guess it keeps the smoke in the rest of > the harness (and the PCM computer!) > > -=Chris From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Jan 26 19:09:07 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:09:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: References: <012620092235.27520.497E3ACD00016F6600006B8022216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901261809s4ea1430dtdc27a5f1a2b1e58@mail.gmail.com> Should I part with my old, tubed Fender Twin Reverb, pick up something new??? [?] Herb On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > anything more than 15-30 watts > That's enough to play concert venues. A watt will get you evicted. > I'd suggest a good 4 watt, with an L-pad. > Something like the little gold and copper one would be good. > > > http://gretschpages.com/forum/billy-zooms-jet-set/a-vist-to-zoom-studios-and > -a-listen-to-the-prototy/18065/page1/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 814.gif] From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Jan 26 19:15:15 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:15:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <520971.73163.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <413B03E8-5964-4252-B4C8-6FADEC09781C@mac.com> <520971.73163.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <646117177.20090126181515@pacifier.com> Hello, Reading the text of the bill in a cursory and not thorough manner, I think it was written by corporate interests. There is the seperate secttion on FLEET SALES. Gosh, Rent-A-Car places will be able to get rebates on their used cars! Hundreds of thousands of dollars to the coporate interests who are writing the bill...... or am i complete cynic? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Telepathy is minding someone else's business. From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Jan 26 19:16:48 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:16:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <520971.73163.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <520971.73163.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1CB4350B-E5D2-4022-9078-0F536922DF24@mac.com> If I read the SEMA article correctly she is the one that killed the "Cash for Clunkers" in the economic stimulus package. We can thank our demented congress women from CA, Sen. Feinstein and Rep. Henry Waxman, for this new one - "Accelerated Retirement of Inefficient Vehicles Act" Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Kitterer Bob wrote: >> This is a new one - clunkers are anything older than 2004 >> and gets >> less than 18 mpg. They may give you $4,200 IF you have it >> crushed >> and buy a new vehicle that gets at least 30 mpg. > > Oooh! Let's chip in and get Pelosi an '03 and weld the doors shut. > I can get my hands on a diesel truck that gets 30.... > > EdNon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Jan 26 19:24:12 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:24:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Other forums References: <986177.36597.qm@web51906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <76869104334A442CA95A4B2BA1F6E562@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Other forums For that matter, it seems to be that the smaller the car, the nicer the owners. Anyone have a Berkeley for sale? ;-) David Lieb _______________________________________________ After that Berkeley that we saw at Racine last year, I can find a buyer. Me. LAD From TMHEFFRON at aol.com Mon Jan 26 19:56:04 2009 From: TMHEFFRON at aol.com (TMHEFFRON at aol.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:56:04 EST Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps Message-ID: I've had a '67 Blackface Twin Reverb for about twenty years and I only play it twice a year just to keep the filter caps from deteriorating. You got to turn a tube amp up to about 40 to 60% for them to sound good, and on a Twin that's way too loud. And too heavy to drag around anyway. You can get an attenuator to reduce the power to the speaker but it's nice to just use the right size amp for the particular volume level you want. There are a lot of really great new (and old) tube amps on the market that are a lot more fun to play and easier on the back than the Twin. My brother got a new Fender Superchamp XD (15 watts) and it sounds pretty decent and would be very good with a better 10 inch speaker. He also got a Blackheart head (3 or 5 watts switchable) and cab with 12 inch and it's a pretty good sounding amp too. I just got a bitsa '53 widepanel Fender Pro with a '58 chassis up and running. It's switchable from about 12 watts up to 35 and has a 15 Jensen speaker. And for obligatory LBC content it fits right into the trunk of my '66 Sprite layed flat. TuTone In a message dated 1/26/2009 8:09:28 P.that sounds very good M. Central Standard Time, froggi60 at gmail.com writes: Should I part wthat'sith my old, tubed Fender Twin Reverb, pick up something new??? [?] Herb On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > anything more than 15-30 watts > That's enough to play concert venues. A watt will get you evicted. > I'd suggest a good 4 watt, with an L-pad. > Something like the little gold and copper one would be good. > > > http://gretschpages.com/forum/billy-zooms-jet-set/a-vist-to-zoom-studios-and > -a-listen-to-the-prototy/18065/page1/ [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 814.gif] You are subscribed as tmheffron at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) From davriker at nwi.net Mon Jan 26 20:44:27 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:44:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps References: Message-ID: Amusing to listen to guitar players talk about 30 watt amps as being too much. I'm a bass player, and 350 watts ISNT ENOUGH! Dave R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps >> anything more than 15-30 watts > That's enough to play concert venues. A watt will get you evicted. > I'd suggest a good 4 watt, with an L-pad. > Something like the little gold and copper one would be good. > > http://gretschpages.com/forum/billy-zooms-jet-set/a-vist-to-zoom-studios-and > -a-listen-to-the-prototy/18065/page1/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.13/1916 - Release Date: 1/26/2009 7:08 AM From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Jan 26 20:59:07 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:59:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <413B03E8-5964-4252-B4C8-6FADEC09781C@mac.com> References: <012620091946.18751.497E13020009C7B30000493F22230703729B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <413B03E8-5964-4252-B4C8-6FADEC09781C@mac.com> Message-ID: <497E868B.4050706@frontiernet.net> My 20 year old Cherokee gets 30 mpg, and my 21 year old Chrysler gets 40. I should give myself a $500+ car payment for something I won't like as well and won't do any better in the mileage department? I don't think so! Maybe I should scrap my 12" flatbed hay hauler for a rice ball that can carry one or two bales at a time. That way I can make 20 trips instead of one. Will the feds ever get tired of a one size fits all philosophy? Kate Kitterer Bob wrote: > This is a new one - clunkers are anything older than 2004 and gets > less than 18 mpg. They may give you $4,200 IF you have it crushed > and buy a new vehicle that gets at least 30 mpg. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Jan 26 21:18:24 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:18:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. References: <8CB4E38D3B851B3-75C-868@WEBMAIL-MY08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <5D19AF94DC544A9DBC2FFD33A29A4509@blackbox2> They seem to be going $12-$18k in Japan. http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/japan_car/rover/mg-rv8/1234791/ http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/japan_car/rover/mg-rv8/1033818/ Of course having the only US car might mean something... ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. >I received an e-mail tonight that Tom Raddatz is selling his RV8, This is still, so far as I am aware, the only actual RV8 is the >U.S. The car is located in Chicago. I would be happy to forward any inquiries to Tom. Firm price of $25,000. I have seen and driven >the car. I wish I had a spare 25K laying around. From dwoerpel at wi.net Mon Jan 26 23:05:50 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 00:05:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. In-Reply-To: <8CB4E38D3B851B3-75C-868@WEBMAIL-MY08.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CB4E38D3B851B3-75C-868@WEBMAIL-MY08.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <497EA43E.8040200@wi.net> Found another one! http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Rare-ScottMillersRV8.htm Dave W Burlington WI kgrowler at aol.com wrote: > I received an e-mail tonight that Tom Raddatz is selling his RV8, This is still, so far as I am aware, the only actual RV8 is the U.S. The car is located in Chicago. I would be happy to forward any inquiries to Tom. Firm price of $25,000. I have seen and driven the car. I wish I had a spare 25K laying around. > > > > Kim Tonry > > Downers Grove, Illinois > > U.S.A. From egnorant at dctexas.net Tue Jan 27 00:09:15 2009 From: egnorant at dctexas.net (Bruce Lowry) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:09:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Other forums References: Message-ID: <603525C15C1B43CD9B0F67FCEE7744D3@lowrybruce> http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/fusionbb.php? My favorite site for Mustangs. There are a lot of local members and clubs near you. Great bunch of enthusiasts. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Spridgets" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:43 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Other forums >I know someone that is working on a 68 Mustang, and he is looking for a > vintage Mustang forum, similar to what we have here. > > Thanks, > Brad > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as egnorant at dctexas.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 00:21:05 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:21:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers....NO In-Reply-To: <1CB4350B-E5D2-4022-9078-0F536922DF24@mac.com> References: <520971.73163.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1CB4350B-E5D2-4022-9078-0F536922DF24@mac.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901262321g3a14eeefjd9334ae36eac15d0@mail.gmail.com> The sorry part of the whole thing is that Feinstein and Pelosi tried this in the Golden State and it didn't work. They are too dumb to learn from their mistakes so the rest of the country will now have to pay for their stupidity. Cheers!! Jimwhoisloadingthesidebysidewithsabotfleshettesincasetheytrytotakemycars On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > If I read the SEMA article correctly she is the one that killed the > "Cash for Clunkers" in the economic stimulus package. We can thank > our demented congress women from CA, Sen. Feinstein and Rep. Henry > Waxman, for this new one - "Accelerated Retirement of Inefficient > Vehicles Act" > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:06 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > > > --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Kitterer Bob wrote: > >> This is a new one - clunkers are anything older than 2004 > >> and gets > >> less than 18 mpg. They may give you $4,200 IF you have it > >> crushed > >> and buy a new vehicle that gets at least 30 mpg. > > > > Oooh! Let's chip in and get Pelosi an '03 and weld the doors shut. > > I can get my hands on a diesel truck that gets 30.... > > > > EdNon From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Tue Jan 27 01:54:08 2009 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:54:08 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question In-Reply-To: <819B1DD2D0B745869738F6A0282BC738@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <4FC3F0110F0C414AB48C70C5FF384196@GuyLaptop> I have completely lost track of the symptoms of the "fault" but most (modern) cars have a hidden and easily forgotten about, safety cut-out. It is designed to trip in the case of an accident, cutting out fuel pump and other electrics. If the unit has been disturbed or knocked it could have tripped out. You would just need to check the handbook to locate it, and press the button to re-set. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Andrew Payne Sent: 27 January 2009 02:03 To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question I don't recall a mention of year, but in my Haynes manual covering 1990-1997, the main fuse (80amp) connects to the negative ground of the "Main Fuse Box". Then it runs a white wire to the ignition switch and alternator. That is all it supplies. I can send a scan of the diagram, but there's not much on the circuit. I did once blow a main fuse my sister's friend's MX-6 while changing her oil. My strap wrench shorted a cable while on the filter. There was a frayed wire coming from the alternator. It burned a hole through the filter and halfway through the wrench handle. By the way, she was not impressed. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:13 PM To: Nory; Kitterer Bob Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC - Miata question > but what caused the main fuse to blow? What's a "main fuse"? Starters aren't fused. You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 03:16:26 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:16:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a Bugeye - any ideas? In-Reply-To: <2A823C7190EA4A16897CE513251B47E5@Home> References: <402509.15212.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2A823C7190EA4A16897CE513251B47E5@Home> Message-ID: <205cef430901270216j174a0c55md80675debcbdaa26@mail.gmail.com> Michael, Any luck with the metalic gold one? Lin On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/976386982.html >> I enquired about it and he sent some pictures. It did not look bad, >> especially for what he wants for it. He had a buyer but the deal fell >> through. Since it is still listed I assume he still has it. >> > > I also got those pictures, and unless you got different ones from me, there > is no information on the condition of the undercarriage. Given the rotted > out rear quarter, that should be a concern. I have already been bitten once > by a completely destroyed underbody. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 27 06:11:30 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:11:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. In-Reply-To: <497EA43E.8040200@wi.net> Message-ID: <542315.64257.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There are many V8 MGBs in the country (Peter, Mike Gigante inadvertantly stayed at a hotel where a convention of them was being held in GFrand Rapids in 2002). I believe the car Kim has mentioned is the genuine Costello article. I got home to find strategically placed (by Lynette) AWD sedan brochures sprinkled in among my magazines (the ones where I only read the articles). I'll have to fight back with a RV8 picture or two. Ron --- On Tue, 1/27/09, David Woerpel wrote: > From: David Woerpel > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. > To: > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net, mgs at autox.team.net > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 12:05 AM > Found another one! > http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Rare-ScottMillersRV8.htm > Dave W > Burlington WI > > > kgrowler at aol.com wrote: > > I received an e-mail tonight that Tom Raddatz is > selling his RV8, This is still, so far as I am aware, the > only actual RV8 is the U.S. The car is located in Chicago. I > would be happy to forward any inquiries to Tom. Firm price > of $25,000. I have seen and driven the car. I wish I had a > spare 25K laying around. > > > > > > > > Kim Tonry > > > > Downers Grove, Illinois > > > > U.S.A. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Jan 27 06:22:34 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:22:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. References: <8CB4E38D3B851B3-75C-868@WEBMAIL-MY08.sysops.aol.com> <497EA43E.8040200@wi.net> Message-ID: <73E5C2DB5FE9452EB0F7A06FAA715F00@midget> > Found another one! > http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Rare-ScottMillersRV8.htm NO, you didn't. If you read the text, you will find that it is a re-creation, NOT an actual RV8. "Looking at Scott's MG RV8 you might think it was all factory-built, but it wasn't! Scott began his project in 2001 when he got in touch with an individual in the UK who was selling a set of OEM RV8 body panels. This individual had also commissioned Heritage to build a "one off" body-shell for use with these panels. Scott bought the entire package, and had it crated-up and shipped here in pieces." David Lieb From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 07:03:50 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:03:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910901270603tec72ea3lca1dfcaf4c011935@mail.gmail.com> 350 true tube watts into a good cab with good speakers would be way too much for guitar or bass. A sensitive speaker makes all the difference. From jdinnis at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 07:17:46 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:17:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901270603tec72ea3lca1dfcaf4c011935@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910901270603tec72ea3lca1dfcaf4c011935@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The only important consideration in a guitar amp is that it "goes all the way to 11". Seriously though, this does seem to be the trend. One of our local live music venus is almost un-livable because the house sound guy insistes on overdriving the room. He only has one preset and it seems to be the outdoor festival mode. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:03 AM, derf wrote: > 350 true tube watts into a good cab with good speakers would be way > too much for guitar or bass. > A sensitive speaker makes all the difference. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From tinydog at snet.net Tue Jan 27 07:21:26 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:21:26 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910901270603tec72ea3lca1dfcaf4c011935@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <012720091421.10731.497F1866000227ED000029EB22230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog responded: And that is probably for the acoustic shows. Right? -------------- Original message from John Innis : -------------- the house sound guy insists on overdriving the room. He only has one preset and it seems > to be the outdoor festival mode. From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jan 27 07:47:42 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:47:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. In-Reply-To: <73E5C2DB5FE9452EB0F7A06FAA715F00@midget> References: <8CB4E38D3B851B3-75C-868@WEBMAIL-MY08.sysops.aol.com> <497EA43E.8040200@wi.net> <73E5C2DB5FE9452EB0F7A06FAA715F00@midget> Message-ID: <497F1E8E.2060107@wi.net> David, I stand corrected. I was reading it as the conversion to left hand drive; thought that was a lot of work for changing "handidness". Thanks for removing the shroud of 1 a.m. misinterpretation. Still would like to have a spare $25000 as there is one car in particular I would like help a friend with. Dave W. Burlington WI. David Lieb wrote: >> Found another one! >> http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Rare-ScottMillersRV8.htm > > NO, you didn't. If you read the text, you will find that it is a > re-creation, NOT an actual RV8. > "Looking at Scott's MG RV8 you might think it was all factory-built, > but it wasn't! Scott began his project in 2001 when he got in touch > with an individual in the UK who was selling a set of OEM RV8 body > panels. This individual had also commissioned Heritage to build a "one > off" body-shell for use with these panels. Scott bought the entire > package, and had it crated-up and shipped here in pieces." > > David Lieb From stevenm at optonline.net Tue Jan 27 08:02:42 2009 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:02:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. References: <542315.64257.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: FWIW, there was a V8 MGB at the "Brits at the Village" show in Lahaska PA last October. I am pretty sure it's in this picture, the red one, behind the red and green Triumphs... http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photos/Pan_2.html (or maybe it was the white one...or the green one?) Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "David Woerpel" Cc: ; Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. > There are many V8 MGBs in the country (Peter, Mike Gigante inadvertantly > stayed at a hotel where a convention of them was being held in GFrand > Rapids in 2002). I believe the car Kim has mentioned is the genuine > Costello article. > > I got home to find strategically placed (by Lynette) AWD sedan brochures > sprinkled in among my magazines (the ones where I only read the articles). > I'll have to fight back with a RV8 picture or two. > > Ron > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, David Woerpel wrote: > >> From: David Woerpel >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. >> To: >> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net, mgs at autox.team.net >> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 12:05 AM >> Found another one! >> http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Rare-ScottMillersRV8.htm >> Dave W >> Burlington WI >> >> >> kgrowler at aol.com wrote: >> > I received an e-mail tonight that Tom Raddatz is >> selling his RV8, This is still, so far as I am aware, the >> only actual RV8 is the U.S. The car is located in Chicago. I >> would be happy to forward any inquiries to Tom. Firm price >> of $25,000. I have seen and driven the car. I wish I had a >> spare 25K laying around. >> > >> > >> > >> > Kim Tonry >> > >> > Downers Grove, Illinois >> > >> > U.S.A. From lists at woozy.com Tue Jan 27 09:52:11 2009 From: lists at woozy.com (Robert Weeks) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 11:52:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: <012620092235.27520.497E3ACD00016F6600006B8022216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <012620092235.27520.497E3ACD00016F6600006B8022216125569B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <497F3BBB.6020507@woozy.com> I've found the video library at this site to be a great help when trying to decide between different amps: http://www.proguitarshop.com//index.php?CategoryID=311 Robert tinydog at snet.net wrote: > tinydog inquired: > > > Okay. If you were a small dog that wanted a big sound when playing guitar in the doghouse, would you go for a Fender Princeton, Champ, Vibro Champ, AC-15, or? > > I'm interested in a tube amp that won't make my master discipline me, but still give me that sweet tone. I'm willing to buy vintage and assume the Chonese/Asian links don't live up to their hype. > > You can discuss bigger amps but I don't think I need/want anything more than 15-30 watts. > > Help me out. Throw me a bone. > > Thanks. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lists at woozy.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 27 11:43:51 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:43:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > One of our local > live music venus is almost un-livable because the house sound guy > insistes on overdriving the room. That's pretty universal these days. It's taken all the joy out of playing live music, as well as listening to it. Performing has been reduced to doing battle with the sound system for an hour and a half. Sound men are a good argument both for and against gun control. From jdinnis at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 11:55:10 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:55:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ditto for both intelligent design and evolution. Neither one acounts for the existance of these creatures. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> One of our local >> live music venus is almost un-livable because the house sound guy >> insistes on overdriving the room. > That's pretty universal these days. It's taken all the joy out of playing > live music, as well as listening to it. Performing has been reduced to doing > battle with the sound system for an hour and a half. Sound men are a good > argument both for and against gun control. > > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From richb at u.washington.edu Tue Jan 27 11:56:24 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:56:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Dave G in Richland, WA Message-ID: <46FDAF3C1A3240CC9215E87545161C64@psych.washington.edu> Dave Could you contact me off list? I have a line on a free hood for your '65 if you are still interested. I'm not sure you are getting my emails. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 12:17:13 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:17:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0901271117k43df5213w9fed797bb7f5946c@mail.gmail.com> Amen!! Or a good argument for birth control and mercy killing.... Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > One of our local > > live music venus is almost un-livable because the house sound guy > > insistes on overdriving the room. > That's pretty universal these days. It's taken all the joy out of playing > live music, as well as listening to it. Performing has been reduced to > doing > battle with the sound system for an hour and a half. Sound men are a good > argument both for and against gun control. From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Jan 27 12:54:41 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:54:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns References: Message-ID: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> I hate to interupt the conversation on Guitar amps but I know a bunch of you folks have guns. I have a new scope to put on my Mini 14 and with the cost of ammo these days I think maybe a bore-sight might save some time and $. Does any one have experience with these little brass wonders of modern technology? Will it at least get me on the paper at 100 yds? Now back to the Guitar Amp list.... Mark Nashville From jdinnis at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 13:02:39 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:02:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> References: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> Message-ID: I have not used one of the chamber type lasers, but I have used the older, optical boresighter. It was within about 2" of dead on at 100 yards on the first shot. It was also inexpensive and works on a variet of guns. However, the one I have was for a .22 only works if the scope centerline is less than 1.5" from the bore centerline. It was too low to work on my AR15. If the high price of ammo has you down, think about relaoding. I am getting .223 for $.23 a round if buy everything in quantities of 1000 and get four loadings out of the brass. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark wrote: > I hate to interupt the conversation on Guitar amps but I know a bunch of you > folks have guns. I have a new scope to put on my Mini 14 and with the cost > of ammo these days I think maybe a bore-sight might save some time and $. > Does any one have experience with these little brass wonders of modern > technology? Will it at least get me on the paper at 100 yds? > > Now back to the Guitar Amp list.... > > Mark > Nashville > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Tue Jan 27 13:01:44 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:01:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: Wheel chocks (normal winter list content) Message-ID: <16e2801c980ba$14346420$056a010a@mail2world.com> For all the cat lovers out there. And for you cat haters, probably an excuse to use your gun! :P With tongue firmly planted in cheek, -=Chris Subject: Huge Water Bill Jennifer and Jim kept getting huge water bills. They knew beyond a doubt that the bills weren't representative of their actual usage, and no matter how they tried to conserve, the high bills continued. Although they could see nothing wrong, they had everything checked for leaks or problems: the water meter, outdoor pipes, indoor pipes, underground pipes, faucets, toilets, washer, ice maker, etc., all to no avail. One day Jim was sick and stayed home in bed, but kept hearing water running downstairs. He finally got out of his sick bed to investigate, and stumbled onto the cause of the bills. Apparently this was happening all day long when they were not at home. Knowing that few would believe him, he taped a segment of the 'problem' for posterity. Click on the site below to see for yourself: http://www.dnaco.net/~vogelke/pictures/water-leak/water-leak..wmv Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ From kk7ss at verizon.net Tue Jan 27 13:03:06 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:03:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> References: , <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <497EF7FA.29408.106A873@kk7ss.verizon.net> How big is the piece of paper?? On 27 Jan 2009 at 13:54, Mark wrote: >> Will it at least get me on the paper at 100 yds? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 13:58:12 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:58:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> References: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901271258m43efddecx366adc7455fa9bd0@mail.gmail.com> Mark, I've had good luck with the Laserlyte Universal Bore Sighter from LL Bean. TA49295. It's a bit spendy at $52 to $54 + SH but works on everything from .20 to .50. I haven't reverted to loading my own like Mr. Innis yet... at least not for rifle or pistol ammo. I shoot a fair amount of 7.62x39 but it is still pretty cheap. I've been reloading my shot shells for a long time. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Mark wrote: > I hate to interupt the conversation on Guitar amps but I know a bunch of > you > folks have guns. I have a new scope to put on my Mini 14 and with the cost > of ammo these days I think maybe a bore-sight might save some time and $. > Does any one have experience with these little brass wonders of modern > technology? Will it at least get me on the paper at 100 yds? > > Now back to the Guitar Amp list.... > > Mark > Nashville From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 13:59:39 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:59:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: Wheel chocks (normal winter list content) In-Reply-To: <16e2801c980ba$14346420$056a010a@mail2world.com> References: <16e2801c980ba$14346420$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901271259g11d0b651xf130d60b36f29dac@mail.gmail.com> Now here's a cat that needs flying lessons!! Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Chris King wrote: > For all the cat lovers out there. And for you cat haters, probably an > excuse to use your gun! :P > > With tongue firmly planted in cheek, > -=Chris > > > Subject: Huge Water Bill > > Jennifer and Jim kept getting huge water bills. They knew beyond a doubt > that the bills weren't representative of their actual usage, and no > matter how they tried to conserve, the high bills continued. Although > they could see nothing wrong, they had everything checked for leaks or > problems: the water meter, outdoor pipes, indoor pipes, underground > pipes, faucets, toilets, washer, ice maker, etc., all to no avail. > One day Jim was sick and stayed home in bed, but kept hearing water > running downstairs. He finally got out of his sick bed to investigate, > and stumbled onto the cause of the bills. Apparently this was happening > all day long when they were not at home. Knowing that few would believe > him, he taped a segment of the 'problem' for posterity. Click on the > site below to see for yourself: > > http://www.dnaco.net/~vogelke/pictures/water-leak/water-leak..wmv > > > > > > > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 14:53:27 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:53:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> References: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901271353r4ad8b60dta4a9183c53b0e205@mail.gmail.com> Bore sighting will get you very close. You don't have to invest in the tools, though. You may find a good gunsmith that will bore sight it for you for little or nothing. Most rifle/scope combos will get you on paper if you just install the scope, if not at 100 then start at 25 or 50 and adjust to an inch or so low at the shorter ranges. From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 16:01:57 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 15:01:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> References: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901271501w5a259baepc0f66cfbd523a6a9@mail.gmail.com> Since we are on the subject of firearms...anyone have a pistol for sale? Herb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 16:07:18 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:07:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10901271501w5a259baepc0f66cfbd523a6a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> <2ad6c6b10901271501w5a259baepc0f66cfbd523a6a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901271507g24a9e334t620992d39bb8b633@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:01 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Since we are on the subject of firearms...anyone have a pistol for sale? > > Herb With or without numbers? -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 27 16:25:40 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:25:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. In-Reply-To: References: <542315.64257.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Steve and all, if it's the same one that was at the Valentine's RoadRally, I think it's the Red Convertible in the background between the Red and green TR's with their hood's up toward the far right of the photo. Nice car. Nice Pictures Steve. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > > FWIW, there was a V8 MGB at the "Brits at the Village" show in Lahaska PA > last October. I am pretty sure it's in this picture, the red one, behind > the red and green Triumphs... http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photos/Pan_2.html > (or maybe it was the white one...or the green one?) > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Soave" > To: "David Woerpel" > Cc: ; > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:11 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. > > > > There are many V8 MGBs in the country (Peter, Mike Gigante inadvertantly > > stayed at a hotel where a convention of them was being held in GFrand > > Rapids in 2002). I believe the car Kim has mentioned is the genuine > > Costello article. > > > > I got home to find strategically placed (by Lynette) AWD sedan brochures > > sprinkled in among my magazines (the ones where I only read the articles). > > I'll have to fight back with a RV8 picture or two. > > > > Ron > > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, David Woerpel wrote: > > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 16:27:57 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:27:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10901271501w5a259baepc0f66cfbd523a6a9@mail.gmail.com> References: <00b301c980b9$1841a470$8575a8c0@CT> <2ad6c6b10901271501w5a259baepc0f66cfbd523a6a9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901271527g6d868dabl7b07492bf801b906@mail.gmail.com> Yes, Smith & Wesson Model 19, $400. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:01 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > Since we are on the subject of firearms...anyone have a pistol for sale? > > Herb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as derf247 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Tue Jan 27 17:09:23 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:09:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite, Pink Sprite and an Innocenti In-Reply-To: <8255.46090.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <8255.46090.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Very cool shot Rick. For those others that may be interested but didn't download the freee copy, there's a Pink Sprite and an Innocenti Sprite on page 31 Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:31:30 -0800 > From: healeyrick at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > CC: editor at healeyclub.org > Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite at Lime Rock > > On page 9 of the February issue of Healey Marque, take a look at picture #3. > Note the wire wheels, rhd, modified grille, front anti-roll bar and, most > importantly, the modified fender line right above the meatball. Unless I miss > my guess, that's one of the 1961 factory Sebring cars. Another tell-tale is > the bonnet latch at the top of the scuttle. These are the metal ones as used > on the 100S. You can just make one out on the left side of the steering wheel > looking from the front. Now compare this to the pics on pp 128 and 130 of > "More Healeys". Wonder if the car had made it into the hands of a privateer > at this point? And to make matters more interesting, Healey collector > extraordinaire Bill Wood, whom you might remember brought the 1967 factory > Sebring car to Spritefest, found a factory 1961 Sebring Sprite in a body shop > close by Lime Rock a number of years ago. Maybe the same car? > > Rick _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howit works_012009 From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jan 27 17:15:08 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:15:08 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling/Crankcase Ventilation Message-ID: There you go, Kirk. That's a 1" hole (manual fuel pump) under that blanking plate in the lower crankcase beneath the pistons. Vent from there along with at least a 1/2" valve cover outlet and you should reduce crankcase pressure and any tendence of oil to foam at high rpm to virtually zero. Run my engine this way now. Virtually no oil use or leakage at 10.0-1CR on relatively fresh (less than 10k) Rivergate-built 1293. With repsect to indicated water temps, Kirk......gauge accurate? . Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 27 17:24:20 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:24:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901271507g24a9e334t620992d39bb8b633@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <827325.55957.qm@web36801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Jim Johnson wrote: "With or without numbers?" Better watch out Jim - you know a bunch of subversives like us are probably being monitored by big brother. We should all pretend to be good little unarmed sheep playing with out innocent little cars... David (name witheld) '71 Midget Long Island :-) From pilotrob at webtv.net Tue Jan 27 17:27:27 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:27:27 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns Message-ID: "Better watch out, Jim..." Didn't Obama cancel the Bush anti-terrorism "eavesdropping" laws? :):) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Jan 27 17:46:24 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:46:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <38005.82124.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Billy Zoom wrote: > live music, as well as listening to it. Performing has been > reduced to doing > battle with the sound system The Madison WI paper named your show as one of the 5 best of the year, and they specifically mentioned a girl flashing her breasts at you. You need to pay less attention to the sound system and enjoy the crowd. Ron From andrewpayne at intrex.net Tue Jan 27 17:47:39 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:47:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC: Wheel chocks (normal winter list content) In-Reply-To: <16e2801c980ba$14346420$056a010a@mail2world.com> References: <16e2801c980ba$14346420$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <28468E096E1A4AAE92D18A50706644F7@AndrewHP> If that cat grows thumbs we are doomed! Drew From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 17:51:06 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:51:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: <38005.82124.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <38005.82124.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901271651t4ca4288by3ca5d84352772894@mail.gmail.com> So Billy Z was playing one of Rodney Carrington's tunes..."Show them to me" That doesn't sound like him. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Billy Zoom wrote: > > live music, as well as listening to it. Performing has been > > reduced to doing > > battle with the sound system > > The Madison WI paper named your show as one of the 5 best of the year, and > they specifically mentioned a girl flashing her breasts at you. You need to > pay less attention to the sound system and enjoy the crowd. > > Ron > _____________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Jan 27 18:03:38 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:03:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > dead on at 100 > yards on the first shot. Do you have anything that works with old eyes? I can still hit pretty much anything I can see, but that's not saying much any more. From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Jan 27 18:08:15 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:08:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Guitar amps In-Reply-To: <38005.82124.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <38005.82124.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3A3EE85C1ECF4D55940C71BC1A195E43@Home> > The Madison WI paper named your show as one of the 5 best of the year, and > they specifically mentioned a girl flashing her breasts at you. You need > to pay less attention to the sound system and enjoy the crowd. Does that mean if I buy a really big amp the girls will flash their breasts at me? I don't have an amp, so I never tried it before. Ampless in Long Island From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Jan 27 18:19:51 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:19:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns References: Message-ID: That is what the Remington 870 is for, if the sound of chambering the shell doesn't work then the multiple booms that follow should. Even in the dark! I only need 100+ yards when they are coming to take my cars away or the Russians have landed. It's about time for R.D. to chime in from the frozen tundra. Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" > dead on at 100 > yards on the first shot. Do you have anything that works with old eyes? I can still hit pretty much anything I can see, but that's not saying much any more. From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 18:33:30 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:33:30 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: Do you have anything that works with old eyes? I can still hit pretty much anything I can see, but that's not saying much any more. That's why Taurus builds the "Judge" pistol. It chambers a 410 shell. Use shot instead of a slug and you just have to point it in the right direction... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 18:35:01 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:35:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: And oddly enough, a 410 shell will hold five .36 caliber lead balls. Leaves a nice pattern.... On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:33 PM, CosmicMag1380 wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Billy Zoom > wrote: > Do you have anything that works with old eyes? I can still hit pretty much > anything I can see, but that's not saying much any more. > > That's why Taurus builds the "Judge" pistol. It chambers a 410 shell. Use > shot instead of a slug and you just have to point it in the right > direction... > > -- > Kent > 1960 Bugeye > 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Tue Jan 27 19:21:11 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:21:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns References: Message-ID: <365D226DCC564BCB8FB8F5C4173D3154@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "John Innis" ; "Mark" Cc: "spridgets list" Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns > dead on at 100 > yards on the first shot. Do you have anything that works with old eyes? I can still hit pretty much anything I can see, but that's not saying much any more. _______________________________________________ I can sell you a set of Braille targets. LAD P.S. Blind people are allowed to go hunting in WI. If things get too bad in your old age, come on down. P.P.S. I don't think they will give you a knife to field dress your deer. They wouldn't want you to hurt anybody. From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jan 27 19:43:56 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:43:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC--Cats, Guns, Guitars, Amps, Motorcycles, Clunkers, Sockets, OEW? Message-ID: <486071797.20090127184356@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Talk about off topic. You guys are ALL F$%^ed UP! I couldn't have a group into which I fit better. THANX TO ALL! You make my winters with these topics and more. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Taglines are the bumper stickers of the '90s. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 27 20:19:12 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:19:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <894980.53843.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Reminds me of a great sign I saw at a swap meet last summer. "If you can read this, you're in range". Tell me THAT won't make most folks turn around and walk the other way! - David --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Billy Zoom wrote: From: Billy Zoom Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns To: "John Innis" , "Mark" Cc: "spridgets list" Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 7:03 PM > dead on at 100 > yards on the first shot. Do you have anything that works with old eyes? I can still hit pretty much anything I can see, but that's not saying much any more. You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jjj at acsnet.com Tue Jan 27 20:29:50 2009 From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:29:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] Actual LBC!!! Message-ID: <4102.66.172.236.84.1233113390.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> I was curious as to how much expereience the group has had with Judson superchargers? Are they worth the trouble? Are they a royal PIA? What kind of life can a guy get out of them? How difficult are they to rebuild? What should you be asking a seller? Ect. Thanks in advance, Kurt. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jan 27 20:43:47 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:43:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Actual LBC!!! In-Reply-To: <4102.66.172.236.84.1233113390.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> References: <4102.66.172.236.84.1233113390.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> Message-ID: <497FD473.1000209@comcast.net> jjj at acsnet.com wrote: > I was curious as to how much expereience the group has had with Judson > superchargers? > Are they worth the trouble? Personally, I say no > Are they a royal PIA? From what I hear, yes. > What kind of life can a guy get out of them? Maybe a whole week? > How difficult are they to rebuild? I don't know > What should you be asking a seller? WHY are you selling it? But I never had one, I know a few people who have but they gave up on them. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Jan 27 20:55:03 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:55:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running Message-ID: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> I know this is off topic these days but I have a Sprite that I just can not keep running. Stock 1.25 SUs, It will fire up for a split second and turn off, like it's not getting any gas. You know me, I already switched the carbs to a known running set. Same problem. I tried a few dizzys too, all fire it right up but like the carbs of unknown settings, it just fired up and died. Seems like a major intake leak but there is nothing visible, everything tight, new gaskets. If I could keep it running for more than a second, I could spray stuff around to check for leaks but I have to get it running first. Full choke, 1/2 choke, full throttle, 1/2 throttle, idle, no choke, no matter what, it just goes brmmmm and dies. The valves are adjusted correctly and they all work. Runs damn good when it runs. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 21:13:42 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:13:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <894980.53843.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <894980.53843.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901272013i650fb3c5v1ea34660014e2ffb@mail.gmail.com> Best bumper sticker: "Keep Honking, I'm Reloading" From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 21:15:17 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:15:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901272015n24e68ec1ub43833c53e58f9d8@mail.gmail.com> Ground? From dwoerpel at wi.net Tue Jan 27 21:56:33 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:56:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. In-Reply-To: References: <542315.64257.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <497FE581.8050501@wi.net> You might be right on the red one. HA! Anyone recognize da blue Sprite wit da white stripe. I tink it's some Eye-talian guy from Joisey whatz like to use nail guns. No S&W for him, too noisy. ;-) Jimmy Hoffa Steven Michelsen wrote: > FWIW, there was a V8 MGB at the "Brits at the Village" show in Lahaska > PA last October. I am pretty sure it's in this picture, the red one, > behind the red and green Triumphs... > http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photos/Pan_2.html (or maybe it was the > white one...or the green one?) > > Steve From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 22:02:04 2009 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:02:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: Frank, Sounds electrical to me. I had this happen to the 74 Midget.... It was a short in the ign. (+) wire to the points. Hot wire it from the battery to the coil and try it again. It could be a bad coil too. Lemme know what you find, Kevin On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:55 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I know this is off topic these days but I have a Sprite that I just > can not keep running. > Stock 1.25 SUs, It will fire up for a split second and turn off, > like it's not getting any gas. > You know me, I already switched the carbs to a known running set. > Same problem. > I tried a few dizzys too, all fire it right up but like the carbs > of unknown settings, it just fired up and died. > Seems like a major intake leak but there is nothing visible, > everything tight, new gaskets. > If I could keep it running for more than a second, I could spray > stuff around to check for leaks but > I have to get it running first. > Full choke, 1/2 choke, full throttle, 1/2 throttle, idle, no choke, > no matter what, it just goes brmmmm and dies. > The valves are adjusted correctly and they all work. > Runs damn good when it runs. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kevinv1275 at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Tue Jan 27 22:06:17 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:06:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> Given you've checked the valves, dizzy and carbs ... Good fuel flow with the ignition ON and the line to the carbs in a cup?? If no... Vacuum in the fuel tank.? Blockage in fuel line? Fuel pump no toggling? Blocked fuel filter? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From wbmcleod at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 22:07:51 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:07:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: Sounds to me a lot like the ignition (distributor) being wired to the starter side of the ignition switch. As long as you are cranking, you have spark. As soon as the starter circuit kicks out, spark dies. Have you put a tester on the circuit? I seem to remember someone saying 99% of fuel problems are electrical??? Regards, Bill Slightly Classics Tucson On Jan 27, 2009, at 8:55 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > I know this is off topic these days but I have a Sprite that I just > can not keep running. > Stock 1.25 SUs, It will fire up for a split second and turn off, > like it's not getting any gas. > > If I could keep it running for more than a second, I could spray > stuff around to check for leaks but > I have to get it running first. > > Runs damn good when it runs. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Jan 27 22:23:10 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:23:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: <851462711.20090127212310@pacifier.com> Hello Frank, bad ignition switch? makes contact when you have your hands on it, but breaks when you let go? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Meekness is uncommon patience in planning a worthwhile revenge. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Jan 27 22:45:49 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:45:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Actual LBC!!! References: <4102.66.172.236.84.1233113390.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> Message-ID: <0A6F069DE9C8423BADD5E58BE5E7D42B@blackbox2> >I was curious as to how much expereience the group has had with Judson > superchargers? I have had one for a long time. On my unit I have made a new manifold to accept an S.U. carb. I could never get it to run well with the stock Holley. >Are they worth the trouble? Depends on what your looking for. It's kind of a Zen thing. They are best viewed as a vintage performance item. Judsons are to be placed 948's only. They will not work on a 1275. So scratch that idea.... If you want a modern performance item then by all means get the Eaton from Moss. > Are they a royal PIA? Yes. To the uninitiated. The main problem is the extra heat they generate, It is not from friction, but from the fact that the unit compresses air internally. They do not like hot summer days. They want a low compression motor and something to spice up the octane of the gas. To give you an idea, on a hot summer day the supercharger housing can reach 180F. > What kind of life can a guy get out of them? I have not yet seen one reach end of life. Mine still works. But I don't put a lot of miles on my car. I have no problems driving locally and short distances with the Judson. If I drive a long distance (say over 15 miles) I disconnect the belt to the supercharger and wire the pulley so it won't spin. When i get to the event I put the belt back on. > How difficult are they to rebuild? They are not too hard to rebuild, but I don't know what your skill level is. New vanes should be made from this material: http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/torlon-vane-material.htm The vanes need to be precisely machined and fitted. I have installed Torlon vanes in my unit and I am evaluating them without the oiler. The Torlon has self lubricating properties and the supplier and I believe that the oiler is redundant with Torlon in this application. The supplier's business card is in the above article. Steve Quance. Very knowledgable. In fact you should read through all the items here: http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/archive_page.htm And go to the forum from here: http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/index.htm The VW Judson is the same rotor and housing as the Sprite unit btw, >What should you be asking a seller? The condition of the bore. The condition of the vane rotor slots. The condition of the bearings and seals. Was the carb rebuilt? Any extras, like an original Judson boost/vacuum guage? Or badge? From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Tue Jan 27 23:09:12 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:09:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Actual LBC!!! In-Reply-To: <4102.66.172.236.84.1233113390.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> References: <4102.66.172.236.84.1233113390.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 8:29 PM, wrote: Are they worth the trouble? That depends on what you want out of your car... They are unique, rare and some might say "cool". Are they a royal PIA? Not after you get them installed properly and running right. Until then, they can be... What kind of life can a guy get out of them? They actually last a long time if they are run within their limits. They are rough on the engine bearings. You will have to replace the bearings every 10K miles to be safe. How difficult are they to rebuild? The part that wears the most is the vanes. The originals are hard to find but there are vanes made of other materials that have been successfully used. What should you be asking a seller? Ect. Is it complete? The compressor with belt tensioner, crank pulley, oil injecter, mounting brace (bracket) all there? Please note: The Judson SP-1 was designed for a 948 CC engine. It does not work well in its stock configuration on an 1100 or 1275. Because of the increased volume of 1100 or 1275 engines, it does not provide the pressure (boost) needed for the performance enhancement that one expects. If overdriven to compensate, the bearings will fail quickly since they are rated for less than 6K RPM. Heat is also a problem with using it on the larger engines. Another well known issue on larger engines is the carb. There is a flat spot between idle and higher RPM with the stock Holley carb. Some folks have had success with a 1 & 3/4 inch SU conversion. George Folchi is the Judson guru and can answer questions with great certainty. He also is the primo rebuilder of Judsons. There are a couple of guys on this list that run Judsons and will probably chime in. I have one that I ran on my car in the early 80s when it was an autocrosser. I ran a 1380 but did not have the regular problems since it was either idling or running wide open for really short priods of time. No heat and no flat spot issues... I also have a Judson for an MGA 1500 that I plan to adapt to my 1380 some day to eliminate the problems that crop up in a street car. My future plans for the SP-1 include taking a 10CC block and sleeving it down to make it a 948. The 2 inch mains make it better for the Judson. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 28 06:56:46 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:56:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite, Pink Sprite and an Innocenti In-Reply-To: <205cef430901280433i7f77e29t256c65ae81c7d288@mail.gmail.com> References: <8255.46090.qm@web51401.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <205cef430901280433i7f77e29t256c65ae81c7d288@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Linda, go to http://www.healeyclub.org/healey-marque.aspx then click on download a full color sample. you could try also this link http://www.healeyclub.org/images/healey-marque.pdf Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:33:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite, Pink Sprite and an Innocenti From: grunthaner at gmail.com To: bugeye15 at hotmail.com Brian, How can I get a copy without joining? Can you send me a scan of that article? Thanks Linda On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:09 PM, brian S wrote: Very cool shot Rick. For those others that may be interested but didn't download the freee copy, there's a Pink Sprite and an Innocenti Sprite on page 31 Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:31:30 -0800 > From: healeyrick at yahoo.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > CC: editor at healeyclub.org > Subject: [Spridgets] Sebring Sprite at Lime Rock > > On page 9 of the February issue of Healey Marque, take a look at picture #3. > Note the wire wheels, rhd, modified grille, front anti-roll bar and, most > importantly, the modified fender line right above the meatball. Unless I miss > my guess, that's one of the 1961 factory Sebring cars. Another tell-tale is > the bonnet latch at the top of the scuttle. These are the metal ones as used > on the 100S. You can just make one out on the left side of the steering wheel > looking from the front. Now compare this to the pics on pp 128 and 130 of > "More Healeys". Wonder if the car had made it into the hands of a privateer > at this point? And to make matters more interesting, Healey collector > extraordinaire Bill Wood, whom you might remember brought the 1967 factory > Sebring car to Spritefest, found a factory 1961 Sebring Sprite in a body shop > close by Lime Rock a number of years ago. Maybe the same car? > > Rick _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail. more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howit works_012009 You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 28 07:03:55 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:03:55 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns In-Reply-To: <7EBAB7C0A9684341A96C1862B716384B0169D59A@onottaxms1.AGR.GC.CA> Message-ID: Which part am I supposed to chime in about? The old eyes? The paranoia? Guns in general? :) For the old eyes, I can tell you that one target shooter that I knew, had a special eyeglass prescription done to optimise his focus on the sights. As for the paranoia, the best defense is a good offense. Do what you can to stop them from coming to get your cars, long before they take that first physical step. Before you even get to the voting stage, organize or join an organization, and make sure that the people that you can affect with a vote, or for whom you can participate in affecting how other people vote, KNOW about it. The only threat that you have to make, is how many votes they will lose and how hard you will try to sway votes. By the time they get within that 100+ yards, someone is going to lose. Guns in general. While it goes against my policy of what information I disclose on the internet to be archived for all to see, I recently inherited a S&W 586. While not actively looking, I aspire to own a red nine Mauser broomhandle some day. re: "the multiple booms that follow should" The flash might be intimidating also!! ( as well as revealing your position. ) In one of those magazines that I read a long time ago, the best gun for self defense is the one that you have with you. What's the other one? Oh yeah! What's the best thing to bring to a gunfight? RD We did have some cold weather recently. -35 C with the wind chill. I started carrying a parka in the car, just in case. :) -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: January 27, 2009 8:20 PM To: Billy Zoom Cc: spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Was Guitar amps Now Guns That is what the Remington 870 is for, if the sound of chambering the shell doesn't work then the multiple booms that follow should. Even in the dark! I only need 100+ yards when they are coming to take my cars away or the Russians have landed. It's about time for R.D. to chime in from the frozen tundra. Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" > dead on at 100 > yards on the first shot. Do you have anything that works with old eyes? I can still hit pretty much anything I can see, but that's not saying much any more. From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 28 07:52:00 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:52:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> > Vacuum in the fuel tank.? > Blockage in fuel line? > Fuel pump no toggling? > Blocked fuel filter? > No fuel system installed just yet. I poured gas into each float bowl, lids off so fuel delivery is not the problem (yet) 2 different coils, 3 dizzys, 2nd set of carbs. No ignition switch yet, hot wired and the only thing hooked up are 2 wires, 1 from the battery to the coil, 1 from the coil to the dizzy. Push button solenoid and an oil pressure gauge. No dash, nothing on the harness is hooked up so no shorts. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 28 08:37:01 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Bugeye.... Message-ID: >From the Yahooey Bugeye list. Any of you Ca. guys know this car? I came across this last night ... http://www.carandcl assic.co. uk/car/C63218 I have no financial interest in it .. but I wish I did.. I wrote to them to find out how much.. it can be yours for a measely ... #100,000 GBP and the car can be viewed in California. mitch Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_012009 From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 08:52:46 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:52:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901280752h68b28706v209baa464b7aae5@mail.gmail.com> Alternator/Genny hooked up and maybe causing problems? From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 08:55:28 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:55:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901280755g4390b407v861f89e239b1d517@mail.gmail.com> Bad pilot bearing? Could be binding? From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Jan 28 09:08:08 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:08:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Bugeye.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Seems like a car that Jay Leno could be interested in. Certainly not someone with my income!!! :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: brian S To: spridgets list Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Bugeye.... Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:37:01 -0500 >From the Yahooey Bugeye list. Any of you Ca. guys know this car? I came across this last night ... http://www.carandcl assic.co. uk/car/C63218 I have no financial interest in it .. but I wish I did.. I wrote to them to find out how much.. it can be yours for a measely ... #100,000 GBP and the car can be viewed in California. mitch Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jan 28 09:50:48 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:50:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] good one from craigslist Message-ID: A co-worker sent this link to me knowing I would love it, be sure to read past the first paragraph. http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/aus/990076336.html Glen From daredelvis at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 09:55:02 2009 From: daredelvis at gmail.com (brian james) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:55:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <531383560901280855r5ae41618n7d5a3095caeaa91d@mail.gmail.com> Is the fuel level in the bowls going down significantly in the time it runs? That will lean it out. Will it run with the choke full on? Brian On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Vacuum in the fuel tank.? >> Blockage in fuel line? >> Fuel pump no toggling? >> Blocked fuel filter? >> >> > > No fuel system installed just yet. > I poured gas into each float bowl, lids off so fuel delivery is not the > problem (yet) > 2 different coils, 3 dizzys, 2nd set of carbs. > No ignition switch yet, hot wired and the only thing hooked up are 2 wires, > 1 from the battery to the coil, 1 from the coil to the dizzy. > Push button solenoid and an oil pressure gauge. > No dash, nothing on the harness is hooked up so no shorts. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as daredelvis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wbmcleod at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 10:05:06 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:05:06 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Moss Motors Message-ID: Would someone remind me of the name / contact point for our guru at Moss Motors? I have a friend who would like to contact him about selling things to Moss. Thanks, Bill Slightly Classics Tucson From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Jan 28 10:50:19 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:50:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <531383560901280855r5ae41618n7d5a3095caeaa91d@mail.gmail.com> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net><497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net><49807110.7050504@comcast.net> <531383560901280855r5ae41618n7d5a3095caeaa91d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <669FA4D51FAA40769EFBAEE825D8E0D2@spider> Spark or gas. Does the system have the ballast resistor on the firewall? If there is one in the system, and if it is open, the motor will start and run as long as the ignition switch is grinding the starter. ...bill in oregon ============================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of brian james Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:55 AM To: Frank Clarici Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't stay running Is the fuel level in the bowls going down significantly in the time it runs? That will lean it out. Will it run with the choke full on? Brian On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Vacuum in the fuel tank.? >> Blockage in fuel line? >> Fuel pump no toggling? >> Blocked fuel filter? >> >> > > No fuel system installed just yet. > I poured gas into each float bowl, lids off so fuel delivery is not the > problem (yet) > 2 different coils, 3 dizzys, 2nd set of carbs. > No ignition switch yet, hot wired and the only thing hooked up are 2 wires, > 1 from the battery to the coil, 1 from the coil to the dizzy. > Push button solenoid and an oil pressure gauge. > No dash, nothing on the harness is hooked up so no shorts. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as daredelvis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as corvallis at peoplepc.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1918 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 28 11:24:30 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:24:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> Message-ID: Well, That blows most of the theories I sent in a PM. Would think maybe bad ground, but if that was the case, it wouldn't start, right? Batteries good? We'll have to play detective tomorrow. yeah, it's mine..... and Frank's gonna kick my ass for talking him into working on it. :-) I swear that thing is cursed. My Fr. Jack needs to do an exorcism on it?????? Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:52:00 -0500 > From: spritenut at comcast.net > To: kk7ss at verizon.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't stay running > > > Vacuum in the fuel tank.? > > Blockage in fuel line? > > Fuel pump no toggling? > > Blocked fuel filter? > > > > No fuel system installed just yet. > I poured gas into each float bowl, lids off so fuel delivery is not the > problem (yet) > 2 different coils, 3 dizzys, 2nd set of carbs. > No ignition switch yet, hot wired and the only thing hooked up are 2 > wires, 1 from the battery to the coil, 1 from the coil to the dizzy. > Push button solenoid and an oil pressure gauge. > No dash, nothing on the harness is hooked up so no shorts. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugeye15 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howit works_012009 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Jan 28 11:26:59 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:26:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> Message-ID: Well, That blows most of the theories I sent in a PM. Would think maybe bad ground, but if that was the case, it wouldn't start, right? Batteries good? We'll have to play detective tomorrow. yeah, it's mine..... and Frank's gonna kick my ass for talking him into working on it. :-) I swear that thing is cursed. My Fr. Jack needs to do an exorcism on it?????? Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:52:00 -0500 > > > Vacuum in the fuel tank.? > > Blockage in fuel line? > > Fuel pump no toggling? > > Blocked fuel filter? > > > > No fuel system installed just yet. > I poured gas into each float bowl, lids off so fuel delivery is not the > problem (yet) > 2 different coils, 3 dizzys, 2nd set of carbs. > No ignition switch yet, hot wired and the only thing hooked up are 2 > wires, 1 from the battery to the coil, 1 from the coil to the dizzy. > Push button solenoid and an oil pressure gauge. > No dash, nothing on the harness is hooked up so no shorts. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.:more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_ 012009 From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 11:53:00 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:53:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. Message-ID: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15@mail.gmail.com> A year or so ago there was a prowler who tried to get into my son and daughter in laws home in Dixon. Kristin, my daughter in law is drop dead beautiful. It so happened that there was a guy who was jiggling the lock on their downstairs door while she was home alone during the day. She came down the stairs and saw the guy through the curtain that hangs over the glass on the door leading to the side of the house. Fortunately, they also have a 100 + pound Shepherd mix who went ape. . .and the guy left. This happened two times. For a long time she was not able to be in the home alone. So her father lends her an old shot gun that shoots the 410 gauge, like the Taurus Judge. Of course she is not comfortable with guns, so I am not sure that she would have done anything with it. One day my son was loading the gun into the trunk of her Toyota Avalon. Somehow, he thought that the chamber was empty, and "somehow" the damn thing went off while in his trunk. It blew a hole through the sheet metal and scattered the shot against the cements steps, which were all chewed up as a result. The blast just missed his dog as the dog was standing outside - and fortunately, no one else was in the path of the guns release. The damage created by that 410 gauge was really impressive - that is one wicked load. The Taurus Judge comment reminded me. Kirk 59 BE (with clean sheet metal) From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 12:31:25 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:31:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901281131w45c07a1fy7483d7739a9a7f3c@mail.gmail.com> Used these to great effect in 'Nam. Way better than 00 B loads. Even with a .410 shotshell they will knock a man down solidly even though you only hit an appendage. In 12 ga. they will knock a man down so that he never gets up again. http://www.antipersonnel.net/sdllc/index.html Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > A year or so ago there was a prowler who tried to get into my son and > daughter in laws home in Dixon. > > Kristin, my daughter in law is drop dead beautiful. It so happened that > there was a guy who was > jiggling the lock on their downstairs door while she was home alone during > the day. She came down the stairs and saw the guy through the curtain that > hangs over the glass on the door leading to the side of the house. > > Fortunately, they also have a 100 + pound Shepherd mix who went ape. . .and > the guy left. This happened two times. > > For a long time she was not able to be in the home alone. > > So her father lends her an old shot gun that shoots the 410 gauge, like the > Taurus Judge. Of course she is not comfortable with guns, so I am not sure > that she would have done anything with it. > > One day my son was loading the gun into the trunk of her Toyota Avalon. > Somehow, he thought that the chamber was empty, and "somehow" the damn > thing > went off while in his trunk. It blew a hole through the sheet metal and > scattered the shot against the cements steps, which were all chewed up as a > result. The blast just missed his dog as the dog was standing outside - > and > fortunately, no one else was in the path of the guns release. > > The damage created by that 410 gauge was really impressive - that is one > wicked load. > > The Taurus Judge comment reminded me. > > Kirk > 59 BE (with clean sheet metal) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 12:34:28 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:34:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. Message-ID: Most people only get one mistake like that. They were very fortunate that only property was damaged. I've owned many guns since I was about 10 years old. That's almost 40 years. The Best Lessons I ever learned were at the hunters safety course, they stick for a lifetime. It's never too late to get an education, or a refresher. I went back to class when my son decided to take hunters safety. Same lessons, well taught with hands on experience. Can't be beat. Rick ******************************* Message: 15 Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:53:00 -0800 From: Kirk Hargreaves Subject: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. To: spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15 at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A year or so ago there was a prowler who tried to get into my son and daughter in laws home in Dixon. Kristin, my daughter in law is drop dead beautiful. It so happened that there was a guy who was jiggling the lock on their downstairs door while she was home alone during the day. She came down the stairs and saw the guy through the curtain that hangs over the glass on the door leading to the side of the house. Fortunately, they also have a 100 + pound Shepherd mix who went ape. . .and the guy left. This happened two times. For a long time she was not able to be in the home alone. So her father lends her an old shot gun that shoots the 410 gauge, like the Taurus Judge. Of course she is not comfortable with guns, so I am not sure that she would have done anything with it. One day my son was loading the gun into the trunk of her Toyota Avalon. Somehow, he thought that the chamber was empty, and "somehow" the damn thing went off while in his trunk. It blew a hole through the sheet metal and scattered the shot against the cements steps, which were all chewed up as a result. The blast just missed his dog as the dog was standing outside - and fortunately, no one else was in the path of the guns release. The damage created by that 410 gauge was really impressive - that is one wicked load. The Taurus Judge comment reminded me. Kirk 59 BE (with clean sheet metal) ************************************** From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Jan 28 13:07:39 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:07:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4980BB0B.60307@frontiernet.net> I had a bad experience with a shotgun when I was about 12 and home alone on the ranch. I grabbed the nearest weapon, which happened to be my uncle's 10 gauge Parker. I was quite familiar with weapons at that age, but I had never fired a shotgun before, and no one had ever told me that you don't pull both triggers at once. Needless to say, the prowler was somewhat upset, but I immediately learned that I do not like shotguns. My personal preference is a 9mm Tokarev loaded with Hydrashocks. I believe that shot shells are also available in 9mm. Kate From richb at u.washington.edu Wed Jan 28 13:08:09 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:08:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Hood interchangeability between years Message-ID: Knowledge pool time Will a hood from a later CB Midget fit a '65 Sprite? Dave G's '65 EBay Sprite has an ill fitting hood and I have a line on a free one for him that is from either a '69 or '74 Midget. My knowledge of parts interchangeability is from the catalogs, and Moss shows the only difference in the hood being a change in mid '76 (excluding Bugeyes). Is this true for OEM hood or just the replacement ones the catalogs sell? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 13:38:24 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jethro (J Foster)) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:38:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0901281238o1fa3eb8fo220568bcb866b80e@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > One day my son was loading the gun into the trunk of her Toyota Avalon. > Somehow, he thought that the chamber was empty, and "somehow" the damn thing > went off while in his trunk. It blew a hole through the sheet metal and > scattered the shot against the cements steps, which were all chewed up as a > result. The blast just missed his dog as the dog was standing outside - and > fortunately, no one else was in the path of the guns release. I hope they realize how lucky they were! ANYONE handling a gun should attend a firearm safety course and be ever vigilant about safety. My aunt and uncle were moving out of the river bottoms during the Mississippi River flood of 1993, and my uncle had loaded the family guns into the trunk of the car. He was a farmer and outdoorsman that had been around guns all his life and often provided for his family via hunting, trapping and fishing. In the rush of trying to get everything they owned out of the way of the incoming flood waters he failed to check each and every gun to ensure they were unloaded. He hit a pothole in the gravel road and heard a loud noise. He turned to ask my aunt "what was that?" and found that she had been shot. She died the next day. He took his own life a year later still in grief of the accident. Sorry to be a "downer" but there it is. Be SAFE. From bighealey at charter.net Wed Jan 28 13:51:20 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:51:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Hood interchangeability between years In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090128155120.L4X2Q.3956878.root@mp17> Perhaps the difference is in the hood prop attachment? ---- Richard Ball wrote: > Knowledge pool time > > Will a hood from a later CB Midget fit a '65 Sprite? Dave G's '65 EBay Sprite > has an ill fitting hood and I have a line on a free one for him that is from > either a '69 or '74 Midget. My knowledge of parts interchangeability is from > the catalogs, and Moss shows the only difference in the hood being a change in > mid '76 (excluding Bugeyes). Is this true for OEM hood or just the > replacement ones the catalogs sell? > > Thanks > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, WA > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 28 14:05:44 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:05:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Hood interchangeability between years In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4980C8A8.90104@comcast.net> Richard Ball wrote: > Knowledge pool time > > Will a hood from a later CB Midget fit a '65 Sprite? > They are all the same except for where the prop rod (or click stick) goes. And of course Midgets had holes for a chrome stripe down the middle up untill 69 and they did NOT have the holes for the AH wings. But the basic sheetmetal is all the same. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 28 14:07:32 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:07:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Bugeye.... References: Message-ID: <92F352A7AE1D488E87A4C61FDBCC90FE@Larry> I'd rather have the 100K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian S" To: "spridgets list" Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:37 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Bugeye.... >From the Yahooey Bugeye list. Any of you Ca. guys know this car? I came across this last night ... http://www.carandcl assic.co. uk/car/C63218 I have no financial interest in it .. but I wish I did.. I wrote to them to find out how much.. it can be yours for a measely ... #100,000 GBP and the car can be viewed in California. mitch Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_012009 You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Jan 28 17:45:40 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:45:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net><497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0DB5B9AF491645A6AEF98CF0B9BBB10A@midget> > No fuel system installed just yet. > I poured gas into each float bowl, lids off so fuel delivery is not the > problem (yet) > 2 different coils, 3 dizzys, 2nd set of carbs. > No ignition switch yet, hot wired and the only thing hooked up are 2 > wires, 1 from the battery to the coil, 1 from the coil to the dizzy. > Push button solenoid and an oil pressure gauge. > No dash, nothing on the harness is hooked up so no shorts. OK, the engine must be grounded since you are able to crank it over. Hook a tail light across from + to - of the coil. It should flicker nicely when cranking over. Should continue to flicker while engine is stopping if the primary side of the ignition is ok. Tried it with your Hitachi dissy yet? Better be careful or your membership card for the Eyetalian Club will be voided. They would be embarrassed that you can't even hot-wire a car. David Lieb From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Wed Jan 28 18:36:36 2009 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:36:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports Message-ID: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> I sent this a couple days ago, so now we have another foot of snow. Did this not reach the list or is this just a forbiden thing to consider? Dick B. in NH Has anyone found a suitable substitute for the bugeye bonnet supports that sell for about $60 each? Has anyone used replacement tailgate pnematic tubes like those used on SUVs? I've seen them in the auto parts places for about $25 each. Comments? Obviously mine isn't a concourse restoration, but I'd rather use something nicer that the current piece of wood. Dick in NH Waiting in single digit temps for more snow From jjj at acsnet.com Wed Jan 28 19:11:50 2009 From: jjj at acsnet.com (jjj at acsnet.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:11:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] Re,Re,Actual LBC!! Message-ID: <3010.66.172.236.75.1233195110.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> Thanks for the input. I've got a 65 midget with 35k miles in need of a resto. Was thinking datsun trans AND engine or maybe staying period. Hence the Judson query. Seem to have plenty of projects in front of it anyway. Tnx, Kurt. From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 28 19:26:09 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:26:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start Message-ID: <498113C1.9010000@comcast.net> After about 10 hours working on this car, it still only runs for a second or 2 then quits. Nothing is hooked up yet except a wire from the battery to the hot side of the coil and from the coil to the dizzy. I have tried 3 different dizzys, checked em all out too. One came out of a running car. 2 sets of carbs, parts from both sets in a mix match, same problem. 3 different sets of plugs, different brands too, new, used, no change. There is no water system hooked up yet so it is NOT getting wet. The compression across the cyls is 175 PSI each. Valves were at .012 cold, now at .018 cold, yeah it doesn't run long enough to even get warm. No change. I have blown thru the jets into the floats, they are clear. The fuel system is not yet hooked up. Floats are 3/4 full with gas via a jar. I have used this method hundreds of times to see what I have, it works. Now I have replaced the coil with the 3rd one, all non ballast and again, no change. It fires and goes Brmmmmm and dies. idle, fast idle, 1/2 throttle, no change other than faster rpms when it runs for that second. The timing is close, a 1/4" forward and it kicks back, a 1/4 " back and it has a hard time firing. I also tried a few different caps, rotors, and wire sets. There is NOTHING wrong short of like Brian said, it needs an exorcism. Oh when it does run for the split second, it runs very well I just need to keep it running for a minute or two so I can get the carbs close and look at the oil pressure gauge. It's grounded, new battery, fresh gas, points dead on, plugs gapped to .025, also tried .030 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jan 28 19:31:09 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:31:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <498113C1.9010000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <617769.78442.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I think you nailed it right off the bat with the intake leak. --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Frank Clarici wrote: > From: Frank Clarici > Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start > To: "Spridgets" > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 8:26 PM > After about 10 hours working on this car, it still only runs > for a second or 2 then quits. > > Nothing is hooked up yet except a wire from the battery to > the hot side of the coil and from the coil to the dizzy. > I have tried 3 different dizzys, checked em all out too. > One came out of a running car. > 2 sets of carbs, parts from both sets in a mix match, same > problem. > 3 different sets of plugs, different brands too, new, used, > no change. > There is no water system hooked up yet so it is NOT getting > wet. > The compression across the cyls is 175 PSI each. > Valves were at .012 cold, now at .018 cold, yeah it > doesn't run long enough to even get warm. > No change. > I have blown thru the jets into the floats, they are clear. > The fuel system is not yet hooked up. Floats are 3/4 full > with gas via a jar. > I have used this method hundreds of times to see what I > have, it works. > Now I have replaced the coil with the 3rd one, all non > ballast and again, no change. > It fires and goes Brmmmmm and dies. > idle, fast idle, 1/2 throttle, no change other than faster > rpms when it runs for that second. > The timing is close, a 1/4" forward and it kicks back, > a 1/4 " back and it has a hard time firing. > I also tried a few different caps, rotors, and wire sets. > There is NOTHING wrong short of like Brian said, it needs > an exorcism. > Oh when it does run for the split second, it runs very well > I just need to keep it running for a minute or two > so I can get the carbs close and look at the oil pressure > gauge. > It's grounded, new battery, fresh gas, points dead on, > plugs gapped to .025, also tried .030 > > -- Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 28 19:43:32 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:43:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <617769.78442.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <617769.78442.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <498117D4.30207@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > I think you nailed it right off the bat with the intake leak. > > > But it doesn't get any tighter, no holes in the intake, I checked the end knock outs too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Jan 28 19:53:08 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:53:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <498117D4.30207@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Severely obstructed exhaust? Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:44 PM To: soavero at yahoo.com Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Still no Start Ron Soave wrote: > I think you nailed it right off the bat with the intake leak. > > > But it doesn't get any tighter, no holes in the intake, I checked the end knock outs too. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as cmanuel at wi.rr.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jan 28 19:55:27 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:55:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <498117D4.30207@comcast.net>, <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <4980AA1F.25311.284A705@kk7ss.verizon.net> I was just thinking the same thing.... It's one thing you haven't mentioned, Frank,,,, On 28 Jan 2009 at 20:53, Chris Manuel wrote: >> Severely obstructed exhaust? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Jan 28 20:02:50 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:02:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Re,Re,Actual LBC!! In-Reply-To: <3010.66.172.236.75.1233195110.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> References: <3010.66.172.236.75.1233195110.squirrel@www.acsnet.com> Message-ID: <002801c981be$15066600$3f133200$@net> Sorry I have no input on what might be wrong BUT if it can be shipped to me I will exorcise it although an exorcism of such magnitude usually requires at least a year so I can return it around Feb of 2010... Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jjj at acsnet.com Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:12 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Re,Re,Actual LBC!! Thanks for the input. I've got a 65 midget with 35k miles in need of a resto. Was thinking datsun trans AND engine or maybe staying period. Hence the Judson query. Seem to have plenty of projects in front of it anyway. Tnx, Kurt. 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Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 28 20:32:05 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:32:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <49812335.4080709@comcast.net> Chris Manuel wrote: > Severely obstructed exhaust? > Wide open header, no pipe yet. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 20:40:50 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:40:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <49812335.4080709@comcast.net> References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> <49812335.4080709@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> Pilot bearing? Something in the tranny? Hook up a timing light and if it goes out before the motor dies, you've narrowed it to spark, right? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 28 20:45:40 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:45:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <157473.57073.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: 'and "somehow" the damn thing went off while in his trunk.' Wow - Your son is extremely lucky. He needs to go take a firearm safety and hunting course at a local school - and soon. The first and most important lesson they stress is that you must always assume all guns are loaded until you physically prove to yourself that they are not. and if it is out of your sight, you need to reprove t to yourself. I was taught the first thing you do to any gun handed to you is check to make sure of the load status. My my dad taught me at a very young age: "Don't ever point a gun at anyone unless you intend to shoot them, and don't ever shoot anyone unless you intend to..." well you know what I mean. No need in just making them mad so they come back after they get better. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From shop at justbrits.com Wed Jan 28 20:57:43 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:57:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <617769.78442.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> And I side with Ron, Frank. At this point you have nothing to lose by taking it off, plug the 'top' side holes (if any) with dum-dum and fill it up with water. You'll know if there is a 'leak'!! From wbmcleod at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 20:58:45 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:58:45 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> <49812335.4080709@comcast.net> <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Have you checked to make sure that the valves are opening correctly, that you have not installed the cam 180 degrees out? Bill On Jan 28, 2009, at 8:40 PM, derf wrote: > Pilot bearing? Something in the tranny? > Hook up a timing light and if it goes out before the motor dies, > you've narrowed it to spark, right? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wbmcleod at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Jan 28 20:59:59 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:59:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>, <49812335.4080709@comcast.net>, <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4980B93F.24495.2BFBB22@kk7ss.verizon.net> A qquick summary... Several dizzzies - ruling out the dizzy cap, capacitor, points,etc. Several carb set-ups would tend to rule them out. No pipes just headers... Direct wiring to the coil - no harness or ign switch in the way. Several coils - so no coil opening up as it gets hot.. Timing close enough,, A Wild shot... It doesn't sound like it runs long enough for you to check plug color... Do you have, or can you borrow, a Colortune?? Watching the color of the burn as the engine starts and dies might provide a clue... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Jan 28 21:15:54 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:15:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <4980B93F.24495.2BFBB22@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>, <49812335.4080709@comcast.net>, <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> <4980B93F.24495.2BFBB22@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <49812D7A.9010906@comcast.net> Dave G. wrote: > Watching the color of the burn as the engine starts and dies might > provide a clue... > > It runs for 1 or 2 seconds, I can bearly check the oil gauge let alone color tune it. I am thinking cam timing. I did not build this engine so anything is possible. But if the cam was out, wouldn't that show up in the dizzy timing to some degree? The dizzy points in the right spot, moving it a little either way kills the timing. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 21:27:01 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:27:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <49812D7A.9010906@comcast.net> References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> <49812335.4080709@comcast.net> <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> <4980B93F.24495.2BFBB22@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49812D7A.9010906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901282027g2f0549f6q344325bccdf6a561@mail.gmail.com> Pull #1 plug, turn motor over by hand, you should have compression evident by air rushing out of the plug hole when dizzy rotor is about to point to #1. If you install the cam 180* out, won't it still work because it rotates 180* for every 360* of crank rotation? You'd just have to re-do the plug wires, right? Or, am I losing my mind? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 28 21:42:25 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:42:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL><49812335.4080709@comcast.net><5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com><4980B93F.24495.2BFBB22@kk7ss.verizon.net><49812D7A.9010906@comcast.net> <5f00d9910901282027g2f0549f6q344325bccdf6a561@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Still no Start Pull #1 plug, turn motor over by hand, you should have compression evident by air rushing out of the plug hole when dizzy rotor is about to point to #1. If you install the cam 180* out, won't it still work because it rotates 180* for every 360* of crank rotation? You'd just have to re-do the plug wires, right? Or, am I losing my mind? _______________________________________________ You can't install the cam 180 out. If the timing marks on the gears line up you are good to go. The dizzy drives off the camshaft, so the only thing that could be 180 out is the dizzy. LAD From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 21:50:48 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:50:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> <49812335.4080709@comcast.net> <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> <4980B93F.24495.2BFBB22@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49812D7A.9010906@comcast.net> <5f00d9910901282027g2f0549f6q344325bccdf6a561@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901282050l3cc6e9f1n10cf6bd285b0481a@mail.gmail.com> That's what I thought. I guess you could install it 90* out or something like that and get who knows what kind of turnover. You tried the timing light, yet? Maybe the starter gear sticking and stalling it? I wish I could see/hear/feel it in person. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 21:53:19 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:53:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <498113C1.9010000@comcast.net> References: <498113C1.9010000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901282053i2da76de7i4c9108842b436744@mail.gmail.com> When it dies, does it stop abruptly? Or does it sorta coast to a stop? From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Jan 28 21:55:11 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:55:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <498113C1.9010000@comcast.net> References: <498113C1.9010000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <002901c981cd$c4c1e510$4e45af30$@net> If the intake was leaking it still would run although quite roughly. Have seen MAJOR intake leaks and motor still ran. Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1921 - Release Date: 1/28/2009 6:37 AM From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 28 21:55:37 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:55:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> <49812335.4080709@comcast.net> <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> <4980B93F.24495.2BFBB22@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49812D7A.9010906@comcast.net> <5f00d9910901282027g2f0549f6q344325bccdf6a561@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910901282050l3cc6e9f1n10cf6bd285b0481a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8DC7F80E42C34AC1AEFD611CCF281269@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Frank Clarici" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Still no Start That's what I thought. I guess you could install it 90* out or something like that and get who knows what kind of turnover. You tried the timing light, yet? Maybe the starter gear sticking and stalling it? I wish I could see/hear/feel it in person. ============================= Tom's River, New Jersey If you go by US Air get that Sully guy. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Jan 28 22:07:53 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:07:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901282050l3cc6e9f1n10cf6bd285b0481a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <380889.36904.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, derf wrote: > You tried the timing light, yet? A good use would be to check static timing. Ron From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Jan 28 22:53:41 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:53:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <49812D7A.9010906@comcast.net> References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>, <49812335.4080709@comcast.net>, <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> <4980B93F.24495.2BFBB22@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49812D7A.9010906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <249CD3A4-0028-4B8F-9DF6-9586B1135370@comcast.net> It runs for 2 secs so it's not ignition Pull a plug, put a screwdriver in there and note when it's TDC, confirm valves are not rocking, see if other marks line up Swap carbs from a know good one, not just parts. Place a crucifix on the dash and for good measure some salt in a circle surrounding the car. Lester Ya know, that honestly sounds like bad gas, water in it....Vrooom.. DIE... more gas, VRoooom..DIE.. On Jan 28, 2009, at 10:15 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Dave G. wrote: >> Watching the color of the burn as the engine starts and dies might >> provide a clue... >> >> > It runs for 1 or 2 seconds, I can bearly check the oil gauge let > alone color tune it. > I am thinking cam timing. I did not build this engine so anything is > possible. > But if the cam was out, wouldn't that show up in the dizzy timing to > some degree? > The dizzy points in the right spot, moving it a little either way > kills the timing. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > ________________ From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Jan 28 23:02:39 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:02:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start In-Reply-To: <249CD3A4-0028-4B8F-9DF6-9586B1135370@comcast.net> References: <20090129025310.KMTY10307.hrndva-omta06.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL>, <49812335.4080709@comcast.net>, <5f00d9910901281940q1c075fe3j8c52b23b3266f97@mail.gmail.com> <4980B93F.24495.2BFBB22@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49812D7A.9010906@comcast.net> <249CD3A4-0028-4B8F-9DF6-9586B1135370@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4981467F.1030208@frontiernet.net> You want it to blow up? It's a Brit, not Irish! Kate > > > Place a crucifix on the dash and for good measure some salt in a > circle surrounding the car. > > Lester From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Jan 28 23:06:37 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:06:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 block needed Message-ID: <200901290606.n0T66bLj011709@biglossa.ucdavis.edu> Anybody got a spare 1275 block that could take a fresh .040 overbore? I can pull a complete powertrain from a fresh Midget at Pick and Pull this next Saturday, but lazy works for me too. Thanks, Glen From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 06:29:52 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:29:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Bugeye.... In-Reply-To: <92F352A7AE1D488E87A4C61FDBCC90FE@Larry> References: <92F352A7AE1D488E87A4C61FDBCC90FE@Larry> Message-ID: <205cef430901290529o438acb84r57f5f367e56179d0@mail.gmail.com> I like the color and what kind of tach is that looks sweet. Lin On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > I'd rather have the 100K. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "brian S" > To: "spridgets list" > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 9:37 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Expensive Bugeye.... > > > >From the Yahooey Bugeye list. > > Any of you Ca. guys know this car? > > I came across this last night ... > > > > http://www.carandcl assic.co. uk/car/C63218 > > > > I have no financial interest in it .. but I wish I did.. I wrote to > > them to find out how much.. it can be yours for a measely ... #100,000 > > GBP and the car can be viewed in California. > > > mitch > > Brian S. > > Bugeyeracer under resto > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live : E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_012009 > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 29 06:34:29 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:34:29 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. In-Reply-To: <157473.57073.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Cdn firearm training is a bit different. Ideally the person handing over the gun proves it's safe ( unloaded ). The receiver verifies. Then ... since you've received a firearm that has been out of your control, you are supposed to check for blockages. Apparently, exploding barrels, cause a lot of death and injury. They tell the story of the guy hunting who stumbles and plants the end of his shotgun into the ground, blocking the end of the barrel. Then he saw game, aimed and pulled the trigger and blew the top of his skull off ... and lived ... with less brain than he had before. The expressions up here are something like: "never point a firearm at anything that you would regret shooting" and "know what is beyond your target". ----Original Message Follows---- From: David Booker Reply-To: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com To: spridget Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:45:40 -0800 (PST) --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: 'and "somehow" the damn thing went off while in his trunk.' Wow - Your son is extremely lucky. He needs to go take a firearm safety and hunting course at a local school - and soon. The first and most important lesson they stress is that you must always assume all guns are loaded until you physically prove to yourself that they are not. and if it is out of your sight, you need to reprove t to yourself. I was taught the first thing you do to any gun handed to you is check to make sure of the load status. My my dad taught me at a very young age: "Don't ever point a gun at anyone unless you intend to shoot them, and don't ever shoot anyone unless you intend to..." well you know what I mean. No need in just making them mad so they come back after they get better. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 07:06:27 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:06:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <0DB5B9AF491645A6AEF98CF0B9BBB10A@midget> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> <0DB5B9AF491645A6AEF98CF0B9BBB10A@midget> Message-ID: <205cef430901290606h7cd82213s4bdf20703b22ed5e@mail.gmail.com> Frank I know you tried different carbs but remember I had a little grain of sand in my needle area of my carb and when I finally got it out she ran fine. Just a thought. Good luck, very interesting topic and great comments I hope to learn all about this motor stuff this spring. Fascinating. Lin On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM, David Lieb wrote: > No fuel system installed just yet. >> I poured gas into each float bowl, lids off so fuel delivery is not the >> problem (yet) >> 2 different coils, 3 dizzys, 2nd set of carbs. >> No ignition switch yet, hot wired and the only thing hooked up are 2 >> wires, 1 from the battery to the coil, 1 from the coil to the dizzy. >> Push button solenoid and an oil pressure gauge. >> No dash, nothing on the harness is hooked up so no shorts. >> > > OK, the engine must be grounded since you are able to crank it over. > Hook a tail light across from + to - of the coil. It should flicker nicely > when cranking over. Should continue to flicker while engine is stopping if > the primary side of the ignition is ok. Tried it with your Hitachi dissy > yet? > Better be careful or your membership card for the Eyetalian Club will be > voided. They would be embarrassed that you can't even hot-wire a car. > David Lieb > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Jan 29 07:09:53 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:09:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: <205cef430901290606h7cd82213s4bdf20703b22ed5e@mail.gmail.com> References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> <497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net> <49807110.7050504@comcast.net> <0DB5B9AF491645A6AEF98CF0B9BBB10A@midget> <205cef430901290606h7cd82213s4bdf20703b22ed5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1E7F1A7C-5BB8-4675-A2E5-C31E273ED6AD@comcast.net> Sorry about earlier comments, it appears that I am not getting mail in any chronological order... nothing here at work, turn the computer on at home and seconds later 70 emails load wherein Frank gives the symptoms and treatments he provided.. Lester From JMFarley50 at aol.com Thu Jan 29 07:14:39 2009 From: JMFarley50 at aol.com (JMFarley50 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:14:39 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Still no Start Message-ID: Is the dizzy 180* off? I had a similar problem after rebuilding mine and found that the book I was using to set things up was wrong with the dizzy drive "picture". John In a message dated 1/28/2009 9:24:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: After about 10 hours working on this car, it still only runs for a second or 2 then quits. Nothing is hooked up yet except a wire from the battery to the hot side of the coil and from the coil to the dizzy. I have tried 3 different dizzys, checked em all out too. One came out of a running car. 2 sets of carbs, parts from both sets in a mix match, same problem. 3 different sets of plugs, different brands too, new, used, no change. There is no water system hooked up yet so it is NOT getting wet. The compression across the cyls is 175 PSI each. Valves were at .012 cold, now at .018 cold, yeah it doesn't run long enough to even get warm. No change. I have blown thru the jets into the floats, they are clear. The fuel system is not yet hooked up. Floats are 3/4 full with gas via a jar. I have used this method hundreds of times to see what I have, it works. Now I have replaced the coil with the 3rd one, all non ballast and again, no change. It fires and goes Brmmmmm and dies. idle, fast idle, 1/2 throttle, no change other than faster rpms when it runs for that second. The timing is close, a 1/4" forward and it kicks back, a 1/4 " back and it has a hard time firing. I also tried a few different caps, rotors, and wire sets. There is NOTHING wrong short of like Brian said, it needs an exorcism. Oh when it does run for the split second, it runs very well I just need to keep it running for a minute or two so I can get the carbs close and look at the oil pressure gauge. It's grounded, new battery, fresh gas, points dead on, plugs gapped to .025, also tried .030 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as jmfarley50 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets **************Know Your Numbers: Get tips and tools to help you improve your credit score. (http://www.walletpop.com/credit/credit-reports?ncid=emlcntuswall00000002) From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 07:13:22 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:13:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Taurus Judge - 410 Gauge goes off from trunk in car. . what a blast. In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0901281238o1fa3eb8fo220568bcb866b80e@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901281053i73d9bfa8wbb656cec6eddbb15@mail.gmail.com> <8de85a9c0901281238o1fa3eb8fo220568bcb866b80e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430901290613l228460bajb5a05388cbd8eb67@mail.gmail.com> Sorry to hear that Jethro. Lin On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jethro (J Foster) wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Kirk Hargreaves > wrote: > > One day my son was loading the gun into the trunk of her Toyota Avalon. > > Somehow, he thought that the chamber was empty, and "somehow" the damn > thing > > went off while in his trunk. It blew a hole through the sheet metal and > > scattered the shot against the cements steps, which were all chewed up as > a > > result. The blast just missed his dog as the dog was standing outside - > and > > fortunately, no one else was in the path of the guns release. > > I hope they realize how lucky they were! > > ANYONE handling a gun should attend a firearm safety course and be > ever vigilant about safety. > > My aunt and uncle were moving out of the river bottoms during the > Mississippi River flood of 1993, and my uncle had loaded the family > guns into the trunk of the car. He was a farmer and outdoorsman that > had been around guns all his life and often provided for his family > via hunting, trapping and fishing. In the rush of trying to get > everything they owned out of the way of the incoming flood waters he > failed to check each and every gun to ensure they were unloaded. He > hit a pothole in the gravel road and heard a loud noise. He turned to > ask my aunt "what was that?" and found that she had been shot. She > died the next day. He took his own life a year later still in grief > of the accident. > > Sorry to be a "downer" but there it is. Be SAFE. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 29 07:28:46 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:28:46 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA-jag Message-ID: MGA-jag ( picture only ) www.ojaivintagevehicles.com/Photographs/1959_mg.jpg From tinydog at snet.net Thu Jan 29 07:41:08 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:41:08 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA-jag In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <012920091441.792.4981C004000443B80000031822230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog quipped: Stuff like that reminds me of the movie Rosemary's Baby. -------------- Original message from "Robert Duquette" : -------------- > MGA-jag > ( picture only ) > > www.ojaivintagevehicles.com/Photographs/1959_mg.jpg From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 07:49:24 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:49:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA-jag In-Reply-To: <012920091441.792.4981C004000443B80000031822230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <012920091441.792.4981C004000443B80000031822230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <205cef430901290649p4fb55759m7e02c9e6b8e3651a@mail.gmail.com> yea very scarey car. Lin On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:41 AM, wrote: > tinydog quipped: > > Stuff like that reminds me of the movie Rosemary's Baby. > -------------- Original message from "Robert Duquette" < > robertduquette at sympatico.ca>: -------------- > > > > MGA-jag > > ( picture only ) > > > > www.ojaivintagevehicles.com/Photographs/1959_mg.jpg > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 08:02:36 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:02:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA-jag In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910901290702t5d12debft62ed409500594150@mail.gmail.com> That's an old getaway car. From the front it is described as a Jag. >From the rear, it is an MGA. Let's hope it has the Jag motor. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Jan 29 08:29:20 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:29:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior question Message-ID: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> I am planning out my "sympathetic fixer-up'in" of my '76. I recently got a set of seats from a fellow Spridgeteer for a good price and good early morning drive with my wife. Upon returning to the shop I realized that my interior is probably autumn leaf, not the harvest gold of my replacement seats. Weren't the seventies great? Since I will take my 4 seats apart and end up with 2 anyway, I will probably have to skin the seats. Has anyone tried a cheap method of dyeing the vinyl in our cars to have a uniform black? Black would match the carpet, and I assume would be the easiest to get all materials to a similar hue. Most of my interior panels are already faded, stained, dusted with several colors of overspray, so no great loss. I will put forth a few things for the group to consider. 1) Any dye must hold up to the sweaty backside in nice clothes test. 2) In light of the current economy, I need to keep it pretty cheap. 3) I have two cats, but WILL NOT skin them for the cause. 4) I don't currently own guns, nor do I think they would really help this problem. Might make me feel better to shoot the old seats, but wouldn't really help. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 09:17:44 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:17:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't Start Message-ID: <37dc82d40901290817t7aba03cfnd6eca7bc006f0c82@mail.gmail.com> Old boat I had with a Buick small block. Wouldn't run for more than a few seconds. I took a plug out in the dark and turned it over and could see a consistent spark in the dark. Out on the water with son at the wheel - I shot some carb cleaner into the little single barrel Rochester. The boat took off so fast nearly knocked me out over the back onto the stern drive. That Buick V8 really got up and went. I was bent over the engine falling towards the back of the thing, barely stayed inside. Turned out to be a very leaky carb, especially the accelerator pump. Did you check the accelerator pumps on the SU's? Or wait, SU's don't have them? Never mind. . . just a thought! Hey, that's one way to confirm consistent spark, right? Kirk 59BE From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Jan 29 09:41:39 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:41:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior question In-Reply-To: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> References: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <4981DC43.4000304@frontiernet.net> Marhyde. It comes in a spray can, numerous colors, is relatively inexpensive, works good, and is available at most major parts stores. Kate Andrew Payne wrote: > I am planning out my "sympathetic fixer-up'in" of my '76. I recently got a > set of seats from a fellow Spridgeteer for a good price and good early > morning drive with my wife. Upon returning to the shop I realized that my > interior is probably autumn leaf, not the harvest gold of my replacement > seats. Weren't the seventies great? Since I will take my 4 seats apart and > end up with 2 anyway, I will probably have to skin the seats. Has anyone > tried a cheap method of dyeing the vinyl in our cars to have a uniform > black? Black would match the carpet, and I assume would be the easiest to > get all materials to a similar hue. Most of my interior panels are already > faded, stained, dusted with several colors of overspray, so no great loss. > > > > I will put forth a few things for the group to consider. > > 1) Any dye must hold up to the sweaty backside in nice clothes > test. > > 2) In light of the current economy, I need to keep it pretty > cheap. > > 3) I have two cats, but WILL NOT skin them for the cause. > > 4) I don't currently own guns, nor do I think they would > really help this problem. Might make me feel better to shoot the old seats, > but wouldn't really help. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 10:20:39 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:20:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] flat X 2 Message-ID: <8de85a9c0901290920u128a2dd8keaa4ea11fb959faa@mail.gmail.com> Ugh. Just walked in to the garage and found my 73 Midget has BOTH left side tires completely flat! Guess that last ride wasn't a good idea afterall. I dn't see anyway to get a jack under this thing. Any bright ideas? From mark at nashvilletn.org Thu Jan 29 10:31:46 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:31:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] flat X 2 References: <8de85a9c0901290920u128a2dd8keaa4ea11fb959faa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <002701c98237$76b2eee0$8575a8c0@CT> Put air in the tires Ugh. Just walked in to the garage and found my 73 Midget has BOTH left side tires completely flat! Guess that last ride wasn't a good idea afterall. I dn't see anyway to get a jack under this thing. Any bright ideas? _______________________________________________ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 10:34:27 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:34:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA-jag In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0901290934o76aaa341rf6eb6a0f58789d1b@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm.... Would that be an "MGag", or a "JagGA"? If it was parked at McDonalds it could be a McJagGA.... I'm bored this morning.... Where are my meds.... Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > MGA-jag > ( picture only ) > > www.ojaivintagevehicles.com/Photographs/1959_mg.jpg From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 29 10:38:18 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:38:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] flat X 2 In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0901290920u128a2dd8keaa4ea11fb959faa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <848764.77977.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Jeff Foster wrote: Any bright ideas? A couple of friends/neighbors to lift one side of the back end so you can slide the floor jack underneath? - David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 29 10:42:24 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:42:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] flat X 2 In-Reply-To: <002701c98237$76b2eee0$8575a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <983095.25160.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Mark wrote: Put air in the tires That's even better than lifting! Goes back to the old saying: Work smarter, not harder! David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 29 11:01:21 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 10:01:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Interior question In-Reply-To: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <808765.64752.qm@web36808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I recently used the Dupli-Color black dye on a pair of seats and headrests for my car. The seat started out whatever they called tan in 1971. It covered well and evenly. Don't know how it holds up to the sweaty back-side test yet. They were about $8/can at Advance. One would have probably done both seats, but I put lots of light coats on and ended up getting into the second one. - David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Jan 29 11:09:20 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:09:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior question In-Reply-To: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> References: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <493E026A7B3D4DA9A497DF3D9024B756@Home> I just searched on this topic and found this very detailed instruction: http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=949396 Also, I used one of those $19 vinyl repair kits that comes with colored paste, textured paper and an electric cooking iron. I had a 1" square H-shaped tear that was very old, curly, and rough on the edges. The repair is amazingly good. It would be perfect if the textured paper had exactly matched my vinyl texture. Of course, I have not yet sat on it, so I don't know how durable it will be. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 29 11:34:58 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:34:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] flat X 2 In-Reply-To: <983095.25160.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> aka The K.I.S.S. Rule, David !!! LOL From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 11:35:52 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:35:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Won't Start Now:Boat Won't Start Message-ID: <5f00d9910901291035o2178394s4c42e36716d79aac@mail.gmail.com> A friend of mine bought a 40ft Mahogany boat a long time ago from a guy who had both counter-rotating inboard motors rebuilt and could not get either to start. My friend is/was an old dirt track racer mechanic. He paid peanuts for the boat because the guy was fed up with it. After an hour of tinkering he had a thought as he listened to the motors turning over. He switched the starters and walla! had both motors running. The old salts at the harbor gave the man a hard time because this long-haired hippie fixed the boat he'd been struggling over in an hour. The 40ft cabin cruiser was named Mahog Annie. From jlaird237 at cox.net Thu Jan 29 11:43:17 2009 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:43:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net><497F7749.1413.2F7F314@kk7ss.verizon.net><49807110.7050504@comcast.net> <0DB5B9AF491645A6AEF98CF0B9BBB10A@midget> Message-ID: Boy is this going to be something so dumb. Does it lean out or flood out when it stops. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Frank Clarici" ; "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't stay running >> No fuel system installed just yet. >> I poured gas into each float bowl, lids off so fuel delivery is not the >> problem (yet) >> 2 different coils, 3 dizzys, 2nd set of carbs. >> No ignition switch yet, hot wired and the only thing hooked up are 2 >> wires, 1 from the battery to the coil, 1 from the coil to the dizzy. >> Push button solenoid and an oil pressure gauge. >> No dash, nothing on the harness is hooked up so no shorts. > > OK, the engine must be grounded since you are able to crank it over. > Hook a tail light across from + to - of the coil. It should flicker > nicely when cranking over. Should continue to flicker while engine > is stopping if the primary side of the ignition is ok. Tried it with your > Hitachi dissy yet? > > Better be careful or your membership card for the Eyetalian Club > will be voided. They would be embarrassed that you can't even > hot-wire a car. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.10.14/1918 - Release Date: 1/27/2009 7:26 AM From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 11:48:38 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 12:48:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior question In-Reply-To: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> References: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <5f00d9910901291048g3e3f7cabsf686463d5eda7320@mail.gmail.com> If you are going through the grief of taking them apart, just get new material. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Jan 29 12:41:57 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:41:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior question In-Reply-To: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> References: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <046C16429BE74D2EB26DCB701235E09B@AndrewHP> Thanks for the quick responses! It sounds like either Mar-Hyde or Duplicolor vinyl spray should work fairly well. Has anybody used these for seats and gone through a few seasons to know how they hold up against wear and transfer to clothing? Drew From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Jan 29 13:01:25 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:01:25 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] flat X 2 In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0901290920u128a2dd8keaa4ea11fb959faa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Completely flat? Or, just on the bottom? If it's just on the bottom, move the car ahead until the flat side is on the top. That should get you the clearance! ED ----Original Message Follows---- From: Jeff Foster Ugh. Just walked in to the garage and found my 73 Midget has BOTH left side tires completely flat! Guess that last ride wasn't a good idea afterall. I dn't see anyway to get a jack under this thing. Any bright ideas? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 29 14:38:29 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:38:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Won't Start Now:Boat Won't Start In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910901291035o2178394s4c42e36716d79aac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <152758.94538.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Frank - Why didn't you think about that earlier? You either have the starter wired backwards or you mounted one that's for a English-spec RHD car as opposed to a U.S. spec LHD car! - David --- On Thu, 1/29/09, derf wrote: From: derf Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Won't Start Now:Boat Won't Start To: "Kirk Hargreaves" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 12:35 PM A friend of mine bought a 40ft Mahogany boat a long time ago from a guy who had both counter-rotating inboard motors rebuilt and could not get either to start. My friend is/was an old dirt track racer mechanic. He paid peanuts for the boat because the guy was fed up with it. After an hour of tinkering he had a thought as he listened to the motors turning over. He switched the starters and walla! had both motors running. The old salts at the harbor gave the man a hard time because this long-haired hippie fixed the boat he'd been struggling over in an hour. The 40ft cabin cruiser was named Mahog Annie. You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 15:50:44 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:50:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] flat X 2 In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0901290920u128a2dd8keaa4ea11fb959faa@mail.gmail.com> References: <8de85a9c0901290920u128a2dd8keaa4ea11fb959faa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901291450n60c2a075k7ca7daee2b788f5a@mail.gmail.com> Cats weren't dead.... From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 15:55:36 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:55:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA-jag In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10901291455q7e74e68em627b63bbeca2497b@mail.gmail.com> Bonnet's worth as much as the car.... > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 29 16:10:26 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:10:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts Message-ID: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> And runs well. Turned out to be the header was keeping the bottom of the intake from sealing. In pulling it off to check to see if I pulled out all the paper towels keeping dirt out of the engine... I knew I pulled them out but did I forget one? Turns out, no, I didn't leave any towels in the holes. But Brian noticed that there was a paint mark on one hole of the gasket but not the other. Turns out the intake was rocking on the center header pipe, not so much the intake but the heat shield. Some strategic blows with a BFH fixed it right up. It ran long enough to set the carbs, now it runs well. I knew it was acting like a major intake leak but the nuts were tight, the manifold was not damaged, who would have thunk it? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From billmasq at hotmail.com Thu Jan 29 16:13:23 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:13:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Won't stay running In-Reply-To: References: <497FD717.9060007@comcast.net> Message-ID: Could also be a bad ignition switch- did you jumper it yet? > From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:02:04 -0500 > To: spritenut at comcast.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't stay running > > Frank, > > Sounds electrical to me. I had this happen to the 74 Midget.... It > was a short in the ign. (+) wire to the points. > > Hot wire it from the battery to the coil and try it again. It could > be a bad coil too. > > Lemme know what you find, > > Kevin > > > > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 10:55 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > I know this is off topic these days but I have a Sprite that I just > > can not keep running. > > Stock 1.25 SUs, It will fire up for a split second and turn off, > > like it's not getting any gas. > > You know me, I already switched the carbs to a known running set. > > Same problem. > > I tried a few dizzys too, all fire it right up but like the carbs > > of unknown settings, it just fired up and died. > > Seems like a major intake leak but there is nothing visible, > > everything tight, new gaskets. > > If I could keep it running for more than a second, I could spray > > stuff around to check for leaks but > > I have to get it running first. > > Full choke, 1/2 choke, full throttle, 1/2 throttle, idle, no choke, > > no matter what, it just goes brmmmm and dies. > > The valves are adjusted correctly and they all work. > > Runs damn good when it runs. > > > > -- > > Frank Clarici > > Toms River, NJ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as kevinv1275 at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Jan 29 16:18:21 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:18:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior question In-Reply-To: <046C16429BE74D2EB26DCB701235E09B@AndrewHP> References: <6FCE277D6B36441790869BD758315160@AndrewHP> <046C16429BE74D2EB26DCB701235E09B@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <4982393D.9050308@comcast.net> Andrew Payne wrote: > Thanks for the quick responses! It sounds like either Mar-Hyde or Duplicolor > vinyl spray should work fairly well. Has anybody used these for seats and > gone through a few seasons to know how they hold up against wear and > transfer to clothing? > > I did the seats in PIECES in blue way back when and they held up for many years. I also did the door check straps, they showed signs of wear after about 2 years but not the seats. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Jan 29 16:22:43 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:22:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts In-Reply-To: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> References: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <97AD9D9FAC04417BAABC788B11D227DA@spider> Thanks for sharing. Always something. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 3:10 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts And runs well. Turned out to be the header was keeping the bottom of the intake from sealing. In pulling it off to check to see if I pulled out all the paper towels keeping dirt out of the engine... I knew I pulled them out but did I forget one? Turns out, no, I didn't leave any towels in the holes. But Brian noticed that there was a paint mark on one hole of the gasket but not the other. Turns out the intake was rocking on the center header pipe, not so much the intake but the heat shield. Some strategic blows with a BFH fixed it right up. It ran long enough to set the carbs, now it runs well. I knew it was acting like a major intake leak but the nuts were tight, the manifold was not damaged, who would have thunk it? -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Thu Jan 29 16:51:25 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:51:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Interior question In-Reply-To: <4982393D.9050308@comcast.net> Message-ID: <> AND thru some really 'nice' trip to Roscoe, Ill via Hinsdale, ILL!! Tell 'em, Frank !! LOL From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Jan 29 17:08:30 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:08:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts In-Reply-To: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <999761.83870.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Frank Clarici wrote: > I knew it was acting like a major intake leak Yay! I win! From dwoerpel at wi.net Thu Jan 29 17:43:36 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:43:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts + prayer In-Reply-To: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> References: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49824D38.3000104@wi.net> Frank, I love it! You always find a new way to puzzle the list...and yourself. :-) For those of you so inclined, I would ask for prayers for my Mother-in-law who suffered a massive stroke Wed. night and somehow manages to hang on. May God call her home quickly. Thanks. Dave W. Burlington WI Frank Clarici wrote: > And runs well. > Turned out to be the header was keeping the bottom of the intake from > sealing. > In pulling it off to check to see if I pulled out all the paper towels > keeping dirt out of the engine... > I knew I pulled them out but did I forget one? > Turns out, no, I didn't leave any towels in the holes. But Brian > noticed that there was a paint mark on one hole of the gasket but not > the other. Turns out the intake was rocking on the center header pipe, > not so much the intake but the heat shield. > Some strategic blows with a BFH fixed it right up. It ran long enough > to set the carbs, now it runs well. > I knew it was acting like a major intake leak but the nuts were tight, > the manifold was not damaged, who would have thunk it? From dwramsey at att.net Thu Jan 29 18:12:35 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:12:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Interior question Message-ID: <20090130011259.2F3E81878BF@autox.team.net> My friend that does this for a living says to use SEM vinyl paint. It comes in a spray can, is at most commercial paint stores. The key is to clean the vinyl first with lacquer thinner just before you paint. Did my EL Camino seat 5 years ago and it still looks great and no transfer. Crash Thanks for the quick responses! It sounds like either Mar-Hyde or Duplicolor vinyl spray should work fairly well. Has anybody used these for seats and gone through a few seasons to know how they hold up against wear and transfer to clothing? Drew From grday at btinternet.com Thu Jan 29 18:21:27 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:21:27 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts References: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <68F20245616948B0905A0DA977683B63@dell330> Trust you to find something that no-one else has had!! WELL DONE! Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts > And runs well. > Turned out to be the header was keeping the bottom of the intake from > sealing. > In pulling it off to check to see if I pulled out all the paper towels > keeping dirt out of the engine... > I knew I pulled them out but did I forget one? > Turns out, no, I didn't leave any towels in the holes. But Brian noticed > that there was a paint mark on one hole of the gasket but not the other. > Turns out the intake was rocking on the center header pipe, not so much > the intake but the heat shield. > Some strategic blows with a BFH fixed it right up. It ran long enough to > set the carbs, now it runs well. > I knew it was acting like a major intake leak but the nuts were tight, > the manifold was not damaged, who would have thunk it? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Jan 29 20:09:58 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:09:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] MGA-jag References: <012920091441.792.4981C004000443B80000031822230680329B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: Reminds me of "Harold and Maude". > tinydog quipped: > > Stuff like that reminds me of the movie Rosemary's Baby. > -------------- Original message from "Robert Duquette" : -------------- From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 29 20:42:13 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:42:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Won't Start Now:Boat Won't Start In-Reply-To: <152758.94538.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5f00d9910901291035o2178394s4c42e36716d79aac@mail.gmail.com> <152758.94538.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ROTFLMAO David Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:38:29 -0800 > From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com > To: khargreaves2 at gmail.com; derf247 at gmail.com > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Was: Won't Start Now:Boat Won't Start > > Frank - Why didn't you think about that earlier? You either have the starter > wired backwards or you mounted one that's for a English-spec RHD car as > opposed to a U.S. spec LHD car! > - David > > --- On Thu, 1/29/09, derf wrote: > > From: derf > Subject: [Spridgets] Was: Won't Start Now:Boat Won't Start > To: "Kirk Hargreaves" > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 12:35 PM > > A friend of mine bought a 40ft Mahogany boat a long time ago from a > guy who had both counter-rotating inboard motors rebuilt and could not > get either to start. My friend is/was an old dirt track racer > mechanic. He paid peanuts for the boat because the guy was fed up > with it. After an hour of tinkering he had a thought as he listened > to the motors turning over. He switched the starters and walla! had > both motors running. The old salts at the harbor gave the man a hard > time because this long-haired hippie fixed the boat he'd been > struggling over in an hour. > The 40ft cabin cruiser was named Mahog Annie. > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.:more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_ 012009 From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Thu Jan 29 20:49:32 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:49:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> References: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: Dick, While I haven't tried this yet, I am planning on trying it for my tilt front bonnet. I would think that if you got the correct length, like by measuring the bonnet supports, it would work. Should work if mounted to the stock brackets. I would try and pick ones that are for something that has a heavy back tailgate so they'd handle the weight of the Bugeye bonnet. I'd still use the prop rod as a back up tho, wouldn't want you to get eaten by your Bugeye! HTH, and hope you dig out soon! Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:36:36 -0500 > From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports > > I sent this a couple days ago, so now we have another foot of snow. > Did this not reach the list or is this just a forbiden thing to consider? > Dick B. in NH > > Has anyone found a suitable substitute for the bugeye bonnet supports that > sell for about $60 each? Has anyone used replacement tailgate pnematic > tubes like those used on SUVs? I've seen them in the auto parts places for > about $25 each. Comments? Obviously mine isn't a concourse restoration, > but I'd rather use something nicer that the current piece of wood. Dick in > NH > Waiting in single digit temps for more snow > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howit works_012009 From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 21:35:11 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:35:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] flat X 2 In-Reply-To: <002701c98237$76b2eee0$8575a8c0@CT> References: <8de85a9c0901290920u128a2dd8keaa4ea11fb959faa@mail.gmail.com> <002701c98237$76b2eee0$8575a8c0@CT> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0901292035s1ae2d068y1e8088815a1ded05@mail.gmail.com> Exactly what I did! Duh. What was I thinking? Actually that was my first thought but the only air compressor I have is one of the rackety 12V jobs that just couldn't do the job. Borrowed a nice "portable" unit and quickly airred up the tires and placed the car on stands until I can get back to it to see why they had gone down. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Mark wrote: > Put air in the tires > > > > > Ugh. > > Just walked in to the garage and found my 73 Midget has BOTH left side > tires completely flat! Guess that last ride wasn't a good idea > afterall. > > I dn't see anyway to get a jack under this thing. Any bright ideas? > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tr3.4.me at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From herby at herbytoys.com Thu Jan 29 22:27:14 2009 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:27:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <31FD6E4F4EDA4B97A6DE3BD5D3CED0A7@HERBYZ> Here are some sites to check for struts. I just went through this trying to find the right struts to replace the ones on my Dakota's tonneau cover. http://www.americangasprop.com/servlet/Categories http://www.indgassprings.com/pages/prod_locking.html You can get some custom designed on the 2nd site. They even have a lockable feature. Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - soon on the market) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com Dick, While I haven't tried this yet, I am planning on trying it for my tilt front bonnet. I would think that if you got the correct length, like by measuring the bonnet supports, it would work. Should work if mounted to the stock brackets. I would try and pick ones that are for something that has a heavy back tailgate so they'd handle the weight of the Bugeye bonnet. I'd still use the prop rod as a back up tho, wouldn't want you to get eaten by your Bugeye! HTH, and hope you dig out soon! Brian S. From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 07:26:05 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:26:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts In-Reply-To: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> References: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430901300626rb03fbbcl9c561689c9504a4f@mail.gmail.com> Congratulations good work. Lin On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > And runs well. > Turned out to be the header was keeping the bottom of the intake from > sealing. > In pulling it off to check to see if I pulled out all the paper towels > keeping dirt out of the engine... > I knew I pulled them out but did I forget one? > Turns out, no, I didn't leave any towels in the holes. But Brian noticed > that there was a paint mark on one hole of the gasket but not the other. > Turns out the intake was rocking on the center header pipe, not so much the > intake but the heat shield. > Some strategic blows with a BFH fixed it right up. It ran long enough to > set the carbs, now it runs well. > I knew it was acting like a major intake leak but the nuts were tight, the > manifold was not damaged, who would have thunk it? > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 09:53:04 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:53:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] This guy has some Lotus parts Message-ID: <205cef430901300853g4e5a1b3dl28720b21d553993d@mail.gmail.com> I got an email from a guy who has some lotus parts. I don't know anything about Lotus but though there was a guy on the list who may be interested. email Gelva1 at aol.com Lin From biffjones at verizon.net Fri Jan 30 10:42:50 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:42:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports References: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <75173E92B4C74878B4211E4FCA7429E8@dell1> Dick, I have a pair of pneumatic lifts on my front tilting bugeye steel bonnet. They work great in that I can open and close it with one hand. I think I used two 15 or 20 pound tubes. Another spridgteer tried larger poundage tubes but his bonnet wouldn't stay closed! The tubes can be sourced in different lifts and poundage. Do some searches on the internet. As to holding a bonnet up in the standard position I can't even begin to guess what poundage you will need. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite http://sprites2.homestead.com/ [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1925 - Release Date: 01/29/09 17:57:00 From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 30 11:08:49 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:08:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.ne t> References: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Message-ID: <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Ooo, ooo. I love experiments. I placed a shipping scale on the valve cover with a spacer (box of Austin Marina brake shoes) that would touch the bonnet in the same place that the stock supports work, to approximate the weight to HOLD the bonnet open. I got 93 lbs, subtract for the Marina shoes, and you get 90 lbs. Divide by 2, as you would likely have 2 supports, and 40-50 lbs should do. But, I'm not an engineer. And lifting will be different, but that is the weight you have to support to keep it open. Peter C ========= At 07:36 PM 1/28/2009, lindalnhvt at nhvt.net wrote: >I sent this a couple days ago, so now we have another foot of snow. >Did this not reach the list or is this just a forbiden thing to consider? >Dick B. in NH > >Has anyone found a suitable substitute for the bugeye bonnet supports that >sell for about $60 each? Has anyone used replacement tailgate pnematic >tubes like those used on SUVs? I've seen them in the auto parts places for >about $25 each. Comments? Obviously mine isn't a concourse restoration, >but I'd rather use something nicer that the current piece of wood. Dick in >NH >Waiting in single digit temps for more snow >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as peter at nosimport.com > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.15/1923 - Release Date: >1/29/2009 7:13 AM From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 11:19:58 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:19:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901301019o4020b41fx73d91c0db05d6205@mail.gmail.com> Very good, Professor Caldwell! In the interest of good science however it must be subjected to peer review. That done, there are flaws in your experimental laboratory procedure. First, the Marina shoes are incorrect for the application. You must use spridget parts. Second, to derive true and accurate results from your hypothesis your experiment should be identically repeatable. Do it over and over at least 20 times. If you then achieve identical results you have something! If not... well...... Where are my meds....? Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Ooo, ooo. I love experiments. > > I placed a shipping scale on the valve cover with a spacer (box of Austin > Marina brake shoes) that would touch the bonnet in the same place that the > stock supports work, to approximate the weight to HOLD the bonnet open. I > got 93 lbs, subtract for the Marina shoes, and you get 90 lbs. > Divide by 2, as you would likely have 2 supports, and 40-50 lbs should > do. But, I'm not an engineer. And lifting will be different, but that is > the weight you have to support to keep it open. > > Peter C > ========= From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 30 11:23:52 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:23:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports References: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <456743AE4D29424BBE2EDB8FB52A0736@NilesAD.von.gov> > Divide by 2, as you would likely have 2 supports, and 40-50 lbs > should do. But, I'm not an engineer. And lifting will be different, > but that is the weight you have to support to keep it open. I have a small camper with a gas strut to facilitate opening the storage area. It is a "locking strut" similar to what someone mentioned earlier with a plastic piece that snaps into place when fully open. Pushing the side of said plastic piece releases it, allowing it to close. As such, the strut itself is NOT strong enough to lift the lid OR to hold it open. Nor do I think that I would want the struts on a Bugeye bonnet to be strong enough to lift it or hold it open. It would be nice to have as pair with the correct amount of travel (or a bit more?), but I would not want to be under the bonnet when they got tired... hence the locking function. David Lieb From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 30 11:30:34 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:30:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: <456743AE4D29424BBE2EDB8FB52A0736@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <456743AE4D29424BBE2EDB8FB52A0736@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <200901301030163.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 12:23 PM 1/30/2009, David Lieb wrote: >> Divide by 2, as you would likely have 2 supports, and 40-50 >> lbs should do. But, I'm not an engineer. And lifting will be >> different, but that is the weight you have to support to keep it open. > >I have a small camper with a gas strut to facilitate opening the >storage area. It is a "locking strut" similar to what someone >mentioned earlier with a plastic piece that snaps into place when >fully open. Pushing the side of said plastic piece releases it, >allowing it to close. As such, the strut itself is NOT strong enough >to lift the lid OR to hold it open. Nor >do I think that I would want the struts on a Bugeye bonnet to be >strong enough to lift it or hold it open. It would be nice to have >as pair with the correct amount of travel (or a bit more?), but I >would not want to >be under the bonnet when they got tired... hence the locking function. >David Lieb ==== Likewise I would want to have to reach under the bonnet, supporting with my head while I undo the plastic dinguses. As it is with stock supports, you lift up on the bonnet to release them. If the struts would do that, fine. Peter From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 30 11:34:48 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:34:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: <200901301030163.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <456743AE4D29424BBE2EDB8FB52A0736@NilesAD.von.gov> <200901301030163.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <200901301034991.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 12:30 PM 1/30/2009, Peter Caldwell wrote: >At 12:23 PM 1/30/2009, David Lieb wrote: >>> Divide by 2, as you would likely have 2 supports, and 40-50 >>> lbs should do. But, I'm not an engineer. And lifting will be >>> different, but that is the weight you have to support to keep it open. >> >>I have a small camper with a gas strut to facilitate opening the >>storage area. It is a "locking strut" similar to what someone >>mentioned earlier with a plastic piece that snaps into place when >>fully open. Pushing the side of said plastic piece releases it, >>allowing it to close. As such, the strut itself is NOT strong >>enough to lift the lid OR to hold it open. Nor >>do I think that I would want the struts on a Bugeye bonnet to be >>strong enough to lift it or hold it open. It would be nice to have >>as pair with the correct amount of travel (or a bit more?), but I >>would not want to >>be under the bonnet when they got tired... hence the locking function. >>David Lieb >==== >Likewise I would NOT want to have to reach under >the bonnet, supporting with my head while I undo the plastic >dinguses. As it is with stock supports, you lift up on the bonnet to >release them. If the struts would do that, fine. > >Peter _______________________________________________ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 30 11:37:40 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 10:37:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <461898.92862.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 1/30/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: "I placed a shipping scale on the valve cover with a spacer (box of Austin Marina brake shoes) that would touch the bonnet..." Peter, I may not have completely pictured in my head what you're trying to say here. It seems like the measurement you describe would be the weight to open the bonnet, or to hold it in the almost down position. When the bonnet is in the fully up position, wouldn't it take much less pressure to actually hold it there? To measure that, looks like you'd need to use a prop rod between the scale and the bonnet while it is balanced in the approximate up position you'd want it to be in when open. Then again, if not much of the bonnet weight is actually above and behind the hinge when in the open position, the difference may be insignificant and your method could be acurate. Or I may have completely misunderstood what you were saying. 90 pounds just sounds heavy to me. Of course, my Spridget isn't a BE, so what do I know anyway... :-) David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 30 11:37:56 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:37:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports References: <50787.72.64.13.248.1233192996.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <456743AE4D29424BBE2EDB8FB52A0736@NilesAD.von.gov> <200901301030163.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: > Likewise I would want to have to reach under the bonnet, supporting with > my head while I undo the plastic dinguses. As it is with stock supports, > you lift up on the bonnet to release them. If the struts would do that, > fine. I assume you missed a negative in there somewhere? I just looked at the site posted previously and realized that those locking struts require holding a button down while moving the piston. A little difficult if maintaining the original mountings. The ones I had in mind are more like http://tinyurl.com/gas4bug although they do not have a suitable length. If the strength was adequate to almost hold the weight of the bonnet, I would not mind reaching in to release them. David Lieb From cclabaw at juno.com Fri Jan 30 11:47:58 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:47:58 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports Message-ID: <20090130.104758.13159.0@webmail04.dca.untd.com> Biff - Try a long stick (broom handle) and a bathroom scale. I'd guess around 30 pounds. Clay L. '67 Sprite -- "Biff Jones" wrote: Dick, I have a pair of pneumatic lifts on my front tilting bugeye steel bonnet. They work great in that I can open and close it with one hand. I think I used two 15 or 20 pound tubes. Another spridgteer tried larger poundage tubes but his bonnet wouldn't stay closed! The tubes can be sourced in different lifts and poundage. Do some searches on the internet. As to holding a bonnet up in the standard position I can't even begin to guess what poundage you will need. Biff Jones 'Frogarri' '59 Bugeye 'Ole Gray' '61 AH Sprite http://sprites2.homestead.com/ [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1925 - Release Date: 01/29/09 17:57:00 You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Take a break - you deserve it. Click here to find a great vacation. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2gGVIs13ofduyxbfzoVlsJzctYl EaiNPWxI8jIMZJUP4xhK/ From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 30 12:04:22 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:04:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: <461898.92862.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <461898.92862.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200901301104101.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Well, they ARE bloody heavy. OK, my intent was to measure how much force is required to hold the bonnet OPEN at it's full extension. So, I opened the bonnet all the way so that the OE supports held it. Put a scale on the valve cover. Put a box on the scale so that it was an inch away from the fully opened bonnet. Lifted up on the bonnet to release the support dinguses, and let the bonnet down so that it touched the box. The bonnet is within an inch of being fully open when it exerted 90 lbs on the scale. How meaningful that bit of info is, ask an engineer. I suppose I could make a similar measurement at the handle with the bonnet nearly closed, but the question asked was what is required to hold the bonnet open. Peter ===== At 12:37 PM 1/30/2009, David Booker wrote: >--- On Fri, 1/30/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: "I >placed a shipping scale on the valve cover with a spacer (box of >Austin Marina brake shoes) that would touch the bonnet..." >Peter, >I may not have completely pictured in my head what you're trying to >say here. It seems like the measurement you describe would be the >weight to open the bonnet, or to hold it in the almost down >position. When the bonnet is in the fully up position, wouldn't it >take much less pressure to actually hold it there? To measure that, >looks like you'd need to use a prop rod between the scale and the >bonnet while it is balanced in the approximate up position you'd >want it to be in when open. Then again, if not much of the bonnet >weight is actually above and behind the hinge when in the open >position, the difference may be insignificant and your method could >be acurate. Or I may have completely misunderstood what you were >saying. 90 pounds just sounds heavy to me. > >Of course, my Spridget isn't a BE, so what do I know anyway... :-) > >David Booker >'71 Midget >Long Island From peter at nosimport.com Fri Jan 30 12:19:57 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:19:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: <200901301104101.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <200901301008790.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <461898.92862.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <200901301104101.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <200901301119163.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Sorry about the apostrophe. ITS At 01:04 PM 1/30/2009, Peter Caldwell wrote: >Well, they ARE bloody heavy. OK, my intent was to measure how much >force is required to hold the bonnet OPEN at it's >full extension. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 12:34:16 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:34:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Angle of Gas Struts Message-ID: <37dc82d40901301134o28640afcn6696d6d1bc0853db@mail.gmail.com> Angle of gas struts also a factor in terms of leverage? I have NO idea. . . just a curious thought? Kirk 59BE From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 12:41:07 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:41:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Angle of Gas Struts In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40901301134o28640afcn6696d6d1bc0853db@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901301134o28640afcn6696d6d1bc0853db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901301141i4798da84k9d894ee99ed74f90@mail.gmail.com> Basic physics. The angle of the struts determines the load each strut will have. Peter's scale experiment assumes the struts will be straight up at the spot the box of Marina brake shoes contacted the bonnet. If anyone wants, I can calculate load based upon angle if I know the weight of the bonnet and the extended length of the strut. Gravity (g) always points straight down from the spot where the strut attaches to the bonnet, eh? Come on, Soave... you know this stuff! High school physics! Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Angle of gas struts also a factor in terms of leverage? I have NO idea. . > . > just a curious thought? > > Kirk > 59BE From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jan 30 12:50:12 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:50:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Angle of Gas Struts In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901301141i4798da84k9d894ee99ed74f90@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40901301134o28640afcn6696d6d1bc0853db@mail.gmail.com>, <43840a7e0901301141i4798da84k9d894ee99ed74f90@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4982E974.27550.EEA2D8@kk7ss.verizon.net> On 30 Jan 2009 at 13:41, Jim Johnson wrote: >> High school physics! Isn't that where I was supposed to climb a 15ft rope in 10 seconds....??? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 30 12:53:38 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:53:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Angle of Gas Struts In-Reply-To: <4982E974.27550.EEA2D8@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <37dc82d40901301134o28640afcn6696d6d1bc0853db@mail.gmail.com>, <43840a7e0901301141i4798da84k9d894ee99ed74f90@mail.gmail.com> <4982E974.27550.EEA2D8@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: Phys Ed classes can't rope climb anymore. Some kids feelings and self esteem could be hurt if they can't climb the rope... Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > From: kk7ss at verizon.net > On 30 Jan 2009 at 13:41, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> High school physics! > > Isn't that where I was supposed to climb a 15ft rope in 10 > seconds....??? > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_012009 From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Jan 30 12:53:46 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:53:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? Message-ID: <188118817.1778521233345226044.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> B got this back in response for an ad for a 1964 porsche 356 Hello, Sorry for mailing you so late! I'm glad that you're interested in my porsche. The car is street legal and accurate. It comes with all the documents needed for registration, it has a clear title and it can be registred into your name at any time. I am willing to sell it for $4850.This buy now price does include the shipping and insurance fees. I'm located in Lincoln City, OR and the car is here as well and so this is where the car will be shipped from. I've done some research and the best and fastest way I can ship it is using Hemisphere cargo Shipping Ltd which takes between 4 to 6 days to arrive at your door (door to door handling and shipping insurance fee included). I am affiliated with Yahoo! Finance where I have a purchase protection account for $ 10,000.00. This service allows us to complete this transaction in a manner that is quick and safe for both of us. It acts as a third party between seller and buyer to insure that both parties comply to transaction requirements and provides dispute resolution and mediation between parties. Yahoo! Finance is responsible to insure that both parties comply to transaction requirements. If this is ok with you please reply with your complete name, address and shipping address in your next email and let me know if you are interested in knowing more details about this purchase so that I can open a transaction case at Yahoo! Finance and move forward with this deal. Thank you, Christine Demaley ryan From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Jan 30 13:16:32 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:16:32 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <188118817.1778521233345226044.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <188118817.1778521233345226044.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4982EFA0.15368.106BEC1@kk7ss.verizon.net> When I "Google'd" it looked to me to be more like an financial information service than a loan broker... I've never dealt with them... Just my feeling... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Jan 30 13:21:14 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <188118817.1778521233345226044.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <922160657.1793081233346874472.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I am almost COMPETELY positive its a scam but that little kid in me hopes that she's PO'd that she caught her husband with his secretary and is selling his car thats registered in her name as revenge. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ryan kubanoff" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 2:53:46 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC B could this be a scam? B got this back in response for an ad for a 1964 porsche 356 Hello, Sorry for mailing you so late! I'm glad that you're interested in my porsche. The car is street legal and accurate. It comes with all the documents needed for registration, it has a clear title and it can be registred into your name at any time. I am willing to sell it for $4850.This buy now price does include the shipping and insurance fees. I'm located in Lincoln City, OR and the car is here as well and so this is where the car will be shipped from. I've done some research and the best and fastest way I can ship it is using Hemisphere cargo Shipping Ltd which takes between 4 to 6 days to arrive at your door (door to door handling and shipping insurance fee included). I am affiliated with Yahoo! Finance where I have a purchase protection account for $ 10,000.00. This service allows us to complete this transaction in a manner that is quick and safe for both of us. It acts as a third party between seller and buyer to insure that both parties comply to transaction requirements and provides dispute resolution and mediation between parties. Yahoo! Finance is responsible to insure that both parties comply to transaction requirements. If this is ok with you please reply with your complete name, address and shipping address in your next email and let me know if you are interested in knowing more details about this purchase so that I can open a transaction case at Yahoo! Finance and move forward with this deal. Thank you, Christine Demaley ryan From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Jan 30 13:23:16 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 12:23:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <188118817.1778521233345226044.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <188118817.1778521233345226044.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Go to the Yahoo site and see if they offer a service like this: http://finance.yahoo.com/ Any bathtub Porsche worth having is worth a lot more than this. I live in Oregon and what you get is the floor pan rusted out, but covered up with cosmetic, not structural black tar. Be careful. Seems like someone from Portland could go over and check it out for you. .bill in Corvallis oregon ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:54 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? B got this back in response for an ad for a 1964 porsche 356 "Hello, Sorry for mailing you so late! I'm glad that you're interested in my porsche. The car is street legal and accurate. It comes with all the documents needed for registration, it has a clear title and it can be registred into your name at any time. I am willing to sell it for $4850.This buy now price does include the shipping and insurance fees. I'm located in Lincoln City, OR and the car is here as well and so this is where the car will be shipped from. I've done some research and the best and fastest way I can ship it is using Hemisphere cargo Shipping Ltd which takes between 4 to 6 days to arrive at your door (door to door handling and shipping insurance fee included). I am affiliated with Yahoo! Finance where I have a purchase protection account for $ 10,000.00. This service allows us to complete this transaction in a manner that is quick and safe for both of us. It acts as a third party between seller and buyer to insure that both parties comply to transaction requirements and provides dispute resolution and mediation between parties. Yahoo! Finance is responsible to insure that both parties comply to transaction requirements. If this is ok with you please reply with your complete name, address and shipping address in your next email and let me know if you are interested in knowing more details about this purchase so that I can open a transaction case at Yahoo! Finance and move forward with this deal. Thank you, Christine Demaley" ryan _______________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 30 13:27:04 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:27:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <4982EFA0.15368.106BEC1@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <> And a GOOD one, Dave. Ryan, that mail you got/posted has SCAM written ALL over it !!! Me From andrewpayne at intrex.net Fri Jan 30 14:52:45 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:52:45 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? Message-ID: There ARE a lot of folks making deals that a year ago seemed too good to be true. Selling a decent car below value, but quickly, is just good cents for some people right now. Beats foreclosure. However, there is still a real chance of rust, mistrust, misrepresentation, ignorance, shysterism, and perhaps worst of all, fiberglass clothed VW. I agree with a 3rd party inspection and a few well placed emails to yahoo. It may be as easy as calling a Porsche specialist in her area. Drew -----Original Message----- From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: 1/30/09 2:53 PM Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? B got this back in response for an ad for a 1964 porsche 356 Hello, Sorry for mailing you so late! I'm glad that you're interested in my porsche. The car is street legal and accurate. It comes with all the documents needed for registration, it has a clear title and it can be registred into your name at any time. I am willing to sell it for $4850.This buy now price does include the shipping and insurance fees. I'm located in Lincoln City, OR and the car is here as well and so this is where the car will be shipped from. I've done some research and the best and fastest way I can ship it is using Hemisphere cargo Shipping Ltd which takes between 4 to 6 days to arrive at your door (door to door handling and shipping insurance fee included). I am affiliated with Yahoo! Finance where I have a purchase protection account for $ 10,000.00. This service allows us to complete this transaction in a manner that is quick and safe for both of us. It acts as a third party between seller and buyer to insure that both parties comply to transaction requirements and provides dispute resolution and mediation between parties. Yahoo! Finance is responsible to insure that both parties comply to transaction requirements. If this is ok with you please reply with your complete name, address and shipping address in your next email and let me know if you are interested in knowing more details about this purchase so that I can open a transaction case at Yahoo! Finance and move forward with this deal. Thank you, Christine Demaley ryan You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Jan 30 15:20:33 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:20:33 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090130222033.329T5.65434.root@hrndva-web18-z01> its a total scam. Do a search on the shipping company. Back when I was into rebuilding jukeboxes, these ads were really common. Chris ---- Andrew Payne wrote: > There ARE a lot of folks making deals that a year ago seemed too good to be > true. Selling a decent car below value, but quickly, is just good cents for > some people right now. Beats foreclosure. > > However, there is still a real chance of rust, mistrust, misrepresentation, > ignorance, shysterism, and perhaps worst of all, fiberglass clothed VW. > > I agree with a 3rd party inspection and a few well placed emails to yahoo. It > may be as easy as calling a Porsche specialist in her area. > > Drew From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Jan 30 15:41:20 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:41:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? References: <20090130222033.329T5.65434.root@hrndva-web18-z01> Message-ID: <94C55C8499134001BA392EBA3DAD6330@NilesAD.von.gov> > its a total scam. Do a search on the shipping company. Another vote for a scam. Every earmark is there. Run, don't walk, away. David Lieb From jlaird237 at cox.net Wed Jan 28 16:12:19 2009 From: jlaird237 at cox.net (Jack Laird) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:12:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts References: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> <205cef430901300626rb03fbbcl9c561689c9504a4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: As I thought, something dumb. Arn't most of them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Now it starts > Congratulations good work. > Lin > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Frank Clarici > wrote: > >> And runs well. >> Turned out to be the header was keeping the bottom of the intake from >> sealing. >> In pulling it off to check to see if I pulled out all the paper towels >> keeping dirt out of the engine... >> I knew I pulled them out but did I forget one? >> Turns out, no, I didn't leave any towels in the holes. But Brian noticed >> that there was a paint mark on one hole of the gasket but not the other. >> Turns out the intake was rocking on the center header pipe, not so much >> the >> intake but the heat shield. >> Some strategic blows with a BFH fixed it right up. It ran long enough to >> set the carbs, now it runs well. >> I knew it was acting like a major intake leak but the nuts were tight, >> the >> manifold was not damaged, who would have thunk it? >> >> -- >> Frank Clarici >> Toms River, NJ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jlaird237 at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.10.16/1925 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 7:37 AM From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 30 17:30:03 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:30:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: [9issa] - Extreme Prius = Friday Funnies Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Ed's Shop [mailto:shop at justbrits.com] Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 1:48 PM To: 9issa at justbrits.com Subject: [9issa] - Extreme Prius UNfri**ing REAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be SURE to watch the video !!!!!!!! WISH I had the MONEY instead !!! Subject: Extreme Prius http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/22/the-most-obnoxiously-tuned-toy ota-prius-ever/ From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Jan 30 17:30:53 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 16:30:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Angle of Gas Struts In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0901301141i4798da84k9d894ee99ed74f90@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <690778.27957.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 1/30/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > Soave... you know this stuff! High school physics! It's actually a Lagrangian dynamics (L= T - V) problem on the way up since the angle of the bonnet AND the strut are changing (the bonnet hinge takes load also). I manage a business unit now, so I don't have budget to do any verification, just ship it and reduce inventory. Ron From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 30 17:35:57 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:35:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <922160657.1793081233346874472.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <<...but that little kid in me hopes that she's PO'd that she caught her husband with his secretary and is selling his car thats registered in her name as revenge.>> Nah Ryan, it's just that REALLY great 'stiff' yer on !!!!! Got some you wish to share??? Enquiring 'minds' and all that !! From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 30 17:56:12 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:56:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: [9issa] - Extreme Prius = Friday Funnies In-Reply-To: <03f401c9833b$c06c9360$4145ba20$@net> Message-ID: This just in: <> GROAN !!!!! My VERY bad!!! And to "The King of Espousers of tinyurl"!!!!! Must have been a 'brain f*rt'!!!! So here: http://tinyurl.com/66zfcl From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 30 18:54:53 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:54:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. In-Reply-To: <497FE581.8050501@wi.net> Message-ID: <> Yep. And if one looks at "the other one", OLD 'sore leg' magically appears !!! From cclabaw at juno.com Fri Jan 30 19:03:39 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:03:39 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? Message-ID: <20090130.180339.24069.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> besides, isn't this a LGC? Clay L. -- "Ed's Shop" wrote: <<...but that little kid in me hopes that she's PO'd that she caught her husband with his secretary and is selling his car thats registered in her name as revenge.>> Nah Ryan, it's just that REALLY great 'stiff' yer on !!!!! Got some you wish to share??? Enquiring 'minds' and all that !! You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Mobility Scooters - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1z4nT1dL3bPiMcdZoJyMTyJlMDE 5ZmvewxpAPn91nlZgVTe/ From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Jan 30 20:24:34 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <20090130.180339.24069.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <1020627194.1948461233372274397.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> i was hoping no one would notice that. :0 for all those out there concerned for my welfare: i know this is a scam. I'm having fun testing it. I figured you'd enjoy it too. You should see the picture she posted... it's GORGEOUS! Probably taken at the local Porsche showroom... Ryan ----- Original Message ----- From: cclabaw at juno.com To: shop at justbrits.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:03:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC B could this be a scam? besides, isn't this a LGC? Clay L. -- "Ed's Shop" wrote: <<...but that little kid in me hopes that she's PO'd that she caught her husband with his secretary and is selling his car thats registered in her name as revenge.>> Nah Ryan, it's just that REALLY great 'stiff' yer on !!!!! Got some you wish to share??? Enquiring 'minds' and all that !! You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Mobility Scooters - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1z4nT1dL3bPiMcdZoJyMTyJlMDE 5ZmvewxpAPn91nlZgVTe/ From na7db at yahoo.com Fri Jan 30 20:30:55 2009 From: na7db at yahoo.com (brown dan) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:30:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Walnut Dash for MG Midget Message-ID: <51604.87400.qm@web111114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Looking for a 72 Midget Walnut Dash for a LHD. Thanks, Dan From shop at justbrits.com Fri Jan 30 20:35:39 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:35:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <1020627194.1948461233372274397.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Alright Ryan, you 'test' us with what was plainly a SCAM and then 'fess up to' to it thereby 'proving' you are "smart" BUT... <> WHERE the He|| is at LEAST a link to a picture of the BAIT ??? Geesh, everybody 'passes' your 'test' and there is NO 'reward'??? LAME !!!!!! From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Fri Jan 30 20:33:42 2009 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:33:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bonnet Supports Message-ID: <50051.72.71.234.238.1233372822.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Thanks to all for the ideas. Also the ensuing dialog was interesting. For now, I'll probably paint a broomstick leaf green to match. Dick in Nh From millerls at ado13.com Fri Jan 30 21:27:18 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:27:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? References: Message-ID: <9319E563B20A48BC81C10CDE130570B0@HP> First thing Ed ever said that I agree with!!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] not LBC but GBC could this be a scam? > Alright Ryan, you 'test' us with what was plainly a SCAM and > then 'fess up to' to it thereby 'proving' you are "smart" BUT... > > <> > > WHERE the He|| is at LEAST a link to a picture of the BAIT ??? > > Geesh, everybody 'passes' your 'test' and there is NO 'reward'??? > > LAME !!!!!! > > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Jan 30 22:56:58 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:56:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Angle of Gas Struts In-Reply-To: <690778.27957.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0901301141i4798da84k9d894ee99ed74f90@mail.gmail.com> <690778.27957.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0901302156xc0a6459y8d4058275dc50cb4@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Fri, 1/30/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > > Soave... you know this stuff! High school physics! > > It's actually a Lagrangian dynamics (L= T - V) problem on the way up since > the angle of the bonnet AND the strut are changing (the bonnet hinge takes > load also). Only if its moving, right? If stationary, you don't have to get that complicated. Just think how much more complicated we could make this if we considered the disturbed air around the bonnet as it moves! Then it becomes an Eulerian fluid dynamics problem too! ;-) Cheers!! Jim From grday at btinternet.com Sat Jan 31 02:28:31 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 09:28:31 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Angle of Gas Struts References: <43840a7e0901301141i4798da84k9d894ee99ed74f90@mail.gmail.com><690778.27957.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0901302156xc0a6459y8d4058275dc50cb4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <11F371D92290449AAE28C2355A15BA36@dell330> I'd not come across the term, Eulerian fluid dynamics before (sheltered life). So I had a look in Wikipedia. The phrase that explains it all just leapt from the page...... 'This can be visualized by sitting in a boat and drifting down a river' Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Angle of Gas Struts > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > >> --- On Fri, 1/30/09, Jim Johnson wrote: >> > Soave... you know this stuff! High school physics! >> >> It's actually a Lagrangian dynamics (L= T - V) problem on the way up >> since >> the angle of the bonnet AND the strut are changing (the bonnet hinge >> takes >> load also). > > > Only if its moving, right? If stationary, you don't have to get that > complicated. Just think how much more complicated we could make this if > we > considered the disturbed air around the bonnet as it moves! Then it > becomes > an Eulerian fluid dynamics problem too! ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 31 06:35:33 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:35:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Now it starts In-Reply-To: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> References: <49823762.3010206@comcast.net> Message-ID: I've tried sending this numerous times, and it never showed up. so I've trimmed it down, maybe my reply was too large. Hope it makes it this time. Yeah, I'll say it runs well. Well it sounds friggin AWESOME to me. heheheh Haven't heard it run in tooooo many years. Love the sound of an open exhaust. :-) It took us a while, would run on ether, or by spraying gas in it, but carbs wouldn't suck gas. Weird that the brand new set of plugs were black after just a few times of 1 sec starts. We swapped plugs, swapped carbs. no difference Would run by spraying stuff in the carbs so we knew it wasn't electrical. Frank had the idea about the paper towels I had stuffed into the intake, so we decided to take the whole thing off. That's when we noticed the marks on the gasket. Good thing I had painted the intake, probably would still be pulling our hair out... as from the top all, looked and felt tight. Once Frank massaged the heat shield, it all fell into place. Started, and with Frank's magic tuning abilities, it sounded great in no time. Bled the brakes and clutch, put in the dash, hooked up the wiring. All dash switches work, figured out how to hook up the aftermarket old school elec tach Put the radiator in, using Frank's speed setup. :-) trick, it will now be easy to take out to paint it properly. Exhaust hooked up. :-(, wish I didn't have to run a muffler... Figured out the squeak in the steering. Had to rotate the rack to align the shaft properly. . About all that is left is hook up the lights, engineer the front tilt and do the interior. Got to figure out what to do about seats. I have Fiero ones, but the roll bar cross bar puts the drivers seatback too upright. May have to cut the tops off the seats, but then I'd lose the headrest speakers, hmmm. All in all, a very productive day, I think. Thanks for putting up with my amateur and ham fisted mechanical abilities for the day, Frank! And thanks to all that offered suggestions on what it might be. Guess Ron wins the Cupie Doll! Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Jan 31 06:55:52 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:55:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye bonnet supports In-Reply-To: <200901301104101.SM00596@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <780869.39344.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 1/30/09, Peter Caldwell wrote: "...to measure how much force is required to hold the bonnet OPEN at it's full extension. So, I opened the bonnet all the way..." Peter, ...so I DID misunderstand what you wrote. What I now understand about how you did the measure is the same as I said should get you the most accurate reading. Cool. - David From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sat Jan 31 19:54:38 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:54:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Parts Galore! CHEAP Message-ID: OK, which one of you is going to buy up this parts lot, and be the supplier of cheap used parts for the list? http://tinyurl.com/bv3t5l ebay #290291381703 Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. goes where you go. On a PC, on the Web, on your phone. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/learnmore/versatility.aspx#mobile?ocid=TXT _TAGHM_WL_HM_versatility_121208 From dwramsey at att.net Sat Jan 31 20:10:03 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 19:10:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Parts Galore! CHEAP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090201031026.A426018765E@autox.team.net> I wouldn't haul it all off for less than $2500, that is if he paid me. Crash OK, which one of you is going to buy up this parts lot, and be the supplier of cheap used parts for the list? http://tinyurl.com/bv3t5l ebay #290291381703 Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 31 20:57:35 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:57:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Parts Galore! CHEAP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> Am I incorrect Gerard & Glen, don't those pics look like that place (British 'Business') that was sold(???) 2 or 3 years ago??? 'Might' even be longer ago??? Even the description/verbage seem like something we have seen before??? Me From shop at justbrits.com Sat Jan 31 21:46:52 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:46:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Parts Galore! CHEAP In-Reply-To: <20090201031026.A426018765E@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <> Do you remember, Crash??? Me