<<Driving a 4x4 in the snow when you've only got 2wd is VERY entertaining!>> Ah, poor Chris!!! I've been driving Caminos for 40ish YEARS and I am not 'entertained' nor have I been stuck<G><knock on wood>. Wuss<G> 'Hopper (Oh wait, guess I gave it away above<G><F><G>!!!)