From dwoerpel at wi.net Sun Feb 1 07:46:04 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:46:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, Mum-in-law Message-ID: <4985B5AC.60900@wi.net> What a list! Just wanted to thank everyone who prayed and expressed concern for Terri's Mother; it meant a lot. Dorothy passed peacefully early Sunday a.m. after suffering a massive stroke last Wed. She would've been 92 on Feb. 6th which ironically is the date of the funeral in southern Illinois. Anyone know of any lbc's near Effingham? ;-) Hey! It's an addiction; can't help myself. We've got a hell of a list! Thank you so much. Dave W. Burlington WI From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Feb 1 09:41:33 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 11:41:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing Message-ID: <6186A58FDAC14153B32424F58E8878BC@Home> I know that some of you have flat-towed Spridgets without problems. But I have some reports cautioning against flat-towing, one mentioning whipping problems, another mentioning weakness in the frame extensions holding the bumper mounts. What are the good and bad experiences with flat-towing long distances at highway speeds? Michael Rowe From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Feb 1 17:19:05 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2009 19:19:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My Next project Message-ID: <49863BF9.1010401@comcast.net> My daughter's "Lady Bug" This car will be red with black spots, eyelashes, and maybe fold away wings. In the pics, you can see this shell was hit by a D9 bulldozer in it's past life. So I cut the deck off, today I cut the rest of the rear end off and took the rear end off a rusty shell I had out at the coop. No pics of todays work just yet. But the engine is finished, I just need to work on this car by welding 2 back together to make one. I have to have it finished by the Spring, she wants to use it! http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/spritenut/ -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Sun Feb 1 19:36:44 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:36:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My Next project In-Reply-To: <49863BF9.1010401@comcast.net> References: <49863BF9.1010401@comcast.net> Message-ID: I was hoping Frank would post pics of this, rear frame rails are VERY wrinkled. he was thinking about making it into a pickup, which would have been cool. but I think Tiffany overruled him. Not sure where he could have got such a POS tub tho..... shame on the guy he got it from.....at least he didn't pay alot of cash for it. I'm sure it will be very cool when you're done tho. The blue car in Pic 5 is a peak at mine. Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 19:19:05 -0500 > From: spritenut at comcast.net > To: b-evans at earthlink.net; spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] My Next project > > My daughter's "Lady Bug" > This car will be red with black spots, eyelashes, and maybe fold away wings. > In the pics, you can see this shell was hit by a D9 bulldozer in it's > past life. > So I cut the deck off, today I cut the rest of the rear end off and took > the rear end off a rusty shell I had out at the coop. > No pics of todays work just yet. But the engine is finished, I just need > to work on this car by welding 2 back together to make one. > I have to have it finished by the Spring, she wants to use it! > > http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/spritenut/ > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bugeye15 at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.:more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_ 012009 From shop at justbrits.com Sun Feb 1 20:20:46 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:20:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! Message-ID: Anybody one of you Bidding???? http://tinyurl.com/azqfvw Or http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageNa me=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170297708613 Check out the brake lines & carbs!!! And NOT painted underneath?? Don't we have a Frogeye Concours Judge amidst us??? From wbmcleod at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 20:30:56 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 20:30:56 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91264EB2-25EF-478D-8774-997D9908A93D@gmail.com> Don'tcha just hate it when someone with zero feedbacks bids your car up to 21 grand? Bill On Feb 1, 2009, at 8:20 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > Anybody one of you Bidding???? > > http://tinyurl.com/azqfvw > > Or > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageNa > me=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=170297708613 > > Check out the brake lines & carbs!!! And NOT painted > underneath?? > > Don't we have a Frogeye Concours Judge amidst us??? From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Feb 1 20:32:26 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:32:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <005601c984e6$dee2cd80$9ca86880$@net> I am not a judge but you would get totally slammed for the underside during judging and the headlights are also wrong. They look cool but arent correct. Also lots of things wrong under the car at the rear. Cant make out much in the engine compartment. Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 12:00 AM From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 04:33:38 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:33:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My Next project In-Reply-To: <49863BF9.1010401@comcast.net> References: <49863BF9.1010401@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430902020333m201a1428na97dfb821f196f21@mail.gmail.com> Wow how cool I wish I was there. Hey Brian get more pics of your racer too! Lin On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > My daughter's "Lady Bug" > This car will be red with black spots, eyelashes, and maybe fold away > wings. > In the pics, you can see this shell was hit by a D9 bulldozer in it's past > life. > So I cut the deck off, today I cut the rest of the rear end off and took > the rear end off a rusty shell I had out at the coop. > No pics of todays work just yet. But the engine is finished, I just need to > work on this car by welding 2 back together to make one. > I have to have it finished by the Spring, she wants to use it! > > http://s445.photobucket.com/albums/qq179/spritenut/ > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 04:34:43 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:34:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing In-Reply-To: <6186A58FDAC14153B32424F58E8878BC@Home> References: <6186A58FDAC14153B32424F58E8878BC@Home> Message-ID: <205cef430902020334h90efbc3we6a046161929651d@mail.gmail.com> Hey Mike did you find your Bugeye? Lin On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I know that some of you have flat-towed Spridgets without problems. But I > have some reports cautioning against flat-towing, one mentioning whipping > problems, another mentioning weakness in the frame extensions holding the > bumper mounts. > > What are the good and bad experiences with flat-towing long distances at > highway speeds? > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From abcoz at hky.com Mon Feb 2 05:15:06 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:15:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing In-Reply-To: <6186A58FDAC14153B32424F58E8878BC@Home> References: <6186A58FDAC14153B32424F58E8878BC@Home> Message-ID: Hi, Michael. I've flat-towed MGBs, Porsche 356s, and all kinds of VWs. Besides the obvious stuff, like disconnecting the drive shaft, the main thing is that you pull from the exact centerline of the tow vehicle, and that the tow bar is arranged so that the hitch is exactly on the centerline of the car you are towing, and securely mounted to it. If you do this, you will have no trouble with the towed car wandering, or whipping. One thing that bothers me, with a car a tiny as a Spridget, is that (unless you are towing it with another Spridget), you can't see the sides of the car in your side-view mirrors. This means that, in the event of a tire failure, you won't notice it until it's pretty far advanced. Also, you have to do a lot of advanced planning/thinking, when maneuvering in tight quarters, as you can't back up without doing some damage. All in all, you would probably be better off renting a U-Haul trailer (NOT to be confused with a tow-dolly). I've seen some pretty neat, aluminum, U-Haul rigs that would be very nice to tow with. Good luck, whichever you decide. Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing >I know that some of you have flat-towed Spridgets without problems. But I >have some reports cautioning against flat-towing, one mentioning whipping >problems, another mentioning weakness in the frame extensions holding the >bumper mounts. > > What are the good and bad experiences with flat-towing long distances at > highway speeds? > > Michael Rowe From shelden3 at pldi.net Mon Feb 2 05:43:41 2009 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (Charlie) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 06:43:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG Message-ID: <002001c98533$e1251560$6801a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Hey list, been in lurk mode for a few years. I just purchased my father inlaws 1974 MG Midget. I built the engine a number of years ago, which has since developed a nice leak (pour) from the front cover. Not sure if it is the seal or cover it's self. So I'll be pulling a motor to address this issue as well as paint the engine bay I think. I have a few needs, not sure of funds at the moment: 1. 5 speed kit, I have a transmission. Just need a kit. Anyone have a deal laying around? 2. disk brake parts to do a conversion on my BE project. Anyhow, thought i'd let ya'll know. charlie okc,ok 74 Midget 59 Sprite Project. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.9 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2426 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Feb 2 06:47:14 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:47:14 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <005601c984e6$dee2cd80$9ca86880$@net> Message-ID: Love the floor mat. Here's a question. Maybe it's just the photo's, but aren't the gaps behind the doors different? Which one is more correct? ( If there is such a thing. ) The driver's door? ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> I am not a judge but you would get totally slammed for the underside during judging and the headlights are also wrong. They look cool but arent correct. Also lots of things wrong under the car at the rear. Cant make out much in the engine compartment. Leo From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Feb 2 07:29:41 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:29:41 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG In-Reply-To: <002001c98533$e1251560$6801a8c0@housexemkv1xcx> Message-ID: Oh oh! The dreaded, "I might as well do the engine bay while I have the engine out" 5 year project!!!! :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Charlie" Hey list, been in lurk mode for a few years. I just purchased my father inlaws 1974 MG Midget. I built the engine a number of years ago, which has since developed a nice leak (pour) from the front cover. Not sure if it is the seal or cover it's self. So I'll be pulling a motor to address this issue as well as paint the engine bay I think. I have a few needs, not sure of funds at the moment: 1. 5 speed kit, I have a transmission. Just need a kit. Anyone have a deal laying around? 2. disk brake parts to do a conversion on my BE project. Anyhow, thought i'd let ya'll know. charlie okc,ok 74 Midget 59 Sprite Project. From shelden3 at pldi.net Mon Feb 2 07:36:44 2009 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 08:36:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18093.164.58.184.10.1233585404.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> NO NO don't say that. I don't need a curse. My wife will kill me if this isn't ready by spring. She still beats me up for getting rid of the last one. cs > Oh oh! The dreaded, "I might as well do the engine bay while I have the > engine out" 5 year project!!!! :) From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Feb 2 07:49:11 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:49:11 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG In-Reply-To: <18093.164.58.184.10.1233585404.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Message-ID: I don't say it as "a curse". A slight humourous warning, perhaps. ;) >>My wife ... still beats me up ... You can get help for that, you know! :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: shelden3 at pldi.net NO NO don't say that. I don't need a curse. My wife will kill me if this isn't ready by spring. She still beats me up for getting rid of the last one. cs > Oh oh! The dreaded, "I might as well do the engine bay while I have the > engine out" 5 year project!!!! :) From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 08:35:44 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:35:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG In-Reply-To: <18093.164.58.184.10.1233585404.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> References: <18093.164.58.184.10.1233585404.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Message-ID: Hey Charlie, good to see you online again. One thing that is important to do when doing the timing cover seal. Put the cover on, and all the bolts on LOOSELY. Put on the balancer, so that the seal will be centered correctly, THEN tighten the bolts. You may already know this, and if you do, I apologize for repeating it... Brad On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:36 AM, wrote: > NO NO don't say that. I don't need a curse. My wife will kill me if this > isn't ready by spring. She still beats me up for getting rid of the last > one. > > cs > > > Oh oh! The dreaded, "I might as well do the engine bay while I have the > > engine out" 5 year project!!!! :) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From racerbob70 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 08:52:16 2009 From: racerbob70 at yahoo.com (Bob Van Kirk) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:52:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <808386.42578.qm@web51612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Charlie, Brads right about the correct way to install a timing cover but don't forget to put a small amount of lube on the seal lip also. Prevents sudden wear/burning of the seal upon start up before the engine oil gets to it. This applies to any rubber seal when installed on a rotating part, new or otherwise... Bob --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Brad Fornal wrote: From: Brad Fornal Subject: Re: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG To: shelden3 at pldi.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 10:35 AM Hey Charlie, good to see you online again. One thing that is important to do when doing the timing cover seal. Put the cover on, and all the bolts on LOOSELY. Put on the balancer, so that the seal will be centered correctly, THEN tighten the bolts. You may already know this, and if you do, I apologize for repeating it... Brad On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:36 AM, wrote: > NO NO don't say that. I don't need a curse. My wife will kill me if this > isn't ready by spring. She still beats me up for getting rid of the last > one. > > cs > > > Oh oh! The dreaded, "I might as well do the engine bay while I have the > > engine out" 5 year project!!!! :) From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Feb 2 10:05:19 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:05:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -interesting morning Message-ID: <052901c98558$6dbe3cd0$1801010a@xp> Well, I've had an interesting morning. Driving my old Tahoe with 290,000 miles on it to work. Traveling down a dirt road in front of my house, I ran over a piece pipe buried in the sand. It wrapped around the axle near the left rear wheel and broke the brake line. I knew I had hit something but didn't realize it was stuck until I got to the pavement and heard something scraping down the pavement. I hit the brakes and they went to the floor. I managed to get it stopped, called my trusty wrecker service and turned on the flashers. You might think this is strange enough, but you would be incorrect.... I call my buddy at work and ask him to come get me so I can go back to the house and get a different car. He shows up and we are standing in the road behind my vehicle waiting for the wrecker. This is a pretty isolated road. We see the wrecker coming down the dirt road and I notice there is a car behind it. The wrecker pulls over into the grass on the other side of the road and I'm thinking...OK, he is going to turn around and grab my truck from the rear. At that moment, he does exactly that...not knowing there is a car behind him. So this young lady driving a Maxima, swerves to miss the wrecker, just scrapes his bumper and my buddy and I both have to leap off the road because she is heading right for us. Sure enough, she plows right into the rear of my truck. I'm pretty sure it totalled the Maxima. It shoved my parked Tahoe about 15 feet and bent my bumper. The girl was OK thanks to the air bags. I almost had to go change my shorts, and at this point, I'm thinking I need more coffee....and another wrecker. Heard From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Mon Feb 2 10:12:08 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:12:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -interesting morning In-Reply-To: <052901c98558$6dbe3cd0$1801010a@xp> References: <052901c98558$6dbe3cd0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <00a601c98559$61c12040$254360c0$@net> WOW!!! Sounds like you have luck like me. Avoided disaster but shit is all screwed up:( Glad to hear you are fine and that everyone else wasnt hurt. Insurance will cover the truck although probably not for what it is worth (i.e. replacement). Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Heard Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:05 AM To: 'Spridget List' Subject: [Spridgets] OT -interesting morning Well, I've had an interesting morning. Driving my old Tahoe with 290,000 miles on it to work. Traveling down a dirt road in front of my house, I ran over a piece pipe buried in the sand. It wrapped around the axle near the left rear wheel and broke the brake line. I knew I had hit something but didn't realize it was stuck until I got to the pavement and heard something scraping down the pavement. I hit the brakes and they went to the floor. I managed to get it stopped, called my trusty wrecker service and turned on the flashers. You might think this is strange enough, but you would be incorrect.... I call my buddy at work and ask him to come get me so I can go back to the house and get a different car. He shows up and we are standing in the road behind my vehicle waiting for the wrecker. This is a pretty isolated road. We see the wrecker coming down the dirt road and I notice there is a car behind it. The wrecker pulls over into the grass on the other side of the road and I'm thinking...OK, he is going to turn around and grab my truck from the rear. At that moment, he does exactly that...not knowing there is a car behind him. So this young lady driving a Maxima, swerves to miss the wrecker, just scrapes his bumper and my buddy and I both have to leap off the road because she is heading right for us. Sure enough, she plows right into the rear of my truck. I'm pretty sure it totalled the Maxima. It shoved my parked Tahoe about 15 feet and bent my bumper. The girl was OK thanks to the air bags. I almost had to go change my shorts, and at this point, I'm thinking I need more coffee....and another wrecker. Heard You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 12:00 AM From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Feb 2 10:40:51 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:40:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -interesting morning In-Reply-To: <052901c98558$6dbe3cd0$1801010a@xp> References: <052901c98558$6dbe3cd0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <1187939002.20090202094051@pacifier.com> Hello Heard, Jeepers! Keep us posted on how the insurance company(s) sort all this out! Your fault for not getting the disabled rig off the road? The Tow Truck driver's because he pulled onto the road without looking? The girls's fault for tailgating and ramming the rear end? This story is far from finished! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Money is the root of all evil, and man needs roots. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 10:42:20 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:42:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -interesting morning In-Reply-To: <052901c98558$6dbe3cd0$1801010a@xp> References: <052901c98558$6dbe3cd0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: That is God's way of saying, "Take the day off and stay home." Good that everyone is ok.. Lester On Feb 2, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Heard wrote: > Well, I've had an interesting morning. Driving my old Tahoe with > 290,000 > miles on it to work. Traveling down a dirt road in front of my > house, I ran > over a piece pipe buried in the sand. It wrapped around the axle > near the > left rear wheel and broke the brake line. I knew I had hit > something but > didn't realize it was stuck until I got to the pavement and heard > something > scraping down the pavement. I hit the brakes and they went to the > floor. I > managed to get it stopped, called my trusty wrecker service and > turned on > the flashers. You might think this is strange enough, but you would > be > incorrect.... > > I call my buddy at work and ask him to come get me so I can go back > to the > house and get a different car. He shows up and we are standing in > the road > behind my vehicle waiting for the wrecker. This is a pretty > isolated road. > We see the wrecker coming down the dirt road and I notice there is a > car > behind it. The wrecker pulls over into the grass on the other side > of the > road and I'm thinking...OK, he is going to turn around and grab my > truck > from the rear. At that moment, he does exactly that...not knowing > there is > a car behind him. So this young lady driving a Maxima, swerves to > miss the > wrecker, just scrapes his bumper and my buddy and I both have to > leap off > the road because she is heading right for us. Sure enough, she > plows right > into the rear of my truck. I'm pretty sure it totalled the Maxima. > It > shoved my parked Tahoe about 15 feet and bent my bumper. The girl > was OK > thanks to the air bags. > > I almost had to go change my shorts, and at this point, I'm thinking > I need > more coffee....and another wrecker. > > > Heard > _______ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 10:43:26 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 09:43:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <302298.42654.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Bud Osbourne wrote: "All in all, you would probably be better off renting a U-Haul trailer (NOT to be confused with a tow-dolly)." ...and if you do decide to go with a U-Haul trailer, remember they WILL NOT rent it to you if you say you're going to put a Spridget on it. They say they don't fit. (the inner sidewalls touch the upright lips of the trailer rails, but they do fit) I told them I was going to haul a Miata. This is a very worthy tip given to me by Frank when I was figuring out how to get my car from his place to mine. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From john.leier at leier.org Mon Feb 2 11:07:44 2009 From: john.leier at leier.org (John Leier) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:07:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing In-Reply-To: <302298.42654.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <302298.42654.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: U-Haul had no problem renting me an "Auto Transporter" to pull a Midget behind a Tahoe during a cross-country move last March. I had a problem 10+ years ago when trying this, but I just confirmed that the online reservation system approves this setup. Of course, YMMV... John > > ...and if you do decide to go with a U-Haul trailer, remember they WILL > NOT > rent it to you if you say you're going to put a Spridget on it. They say > they > don't fit. (the inner sidewalls touch the upright lips of the trailer > rails, > but they do fit) I told them I was going to haul a Miata. This is a > very worthy tip given to me by Frank when I was figuring out how to get my > car > from his place to mine. > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island From richb at u.washington.edu Mon Feb 2 11:08:21 2009 From: richb at u.washington.edu (Richard Ball) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 10:08:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing References: <6186A58FDAC14153B32424F58E8878BC@Home> Message-ID: <6850CAF07A0E4EFA9B257B0EB424F7C3@psych.washington.edu> Michael The Febuary issue of the AHCA Healey Marque has an artical on page 19 about towing or trailering http://www.healeyclub.org/images/healey-marque.pdf Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 8:41 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing >I know that some of you have flat-towed Spridgets without problems. But I >have some reports cautioning against flat-towing, one mentioning whipping >problems, another mentioning weakness in the frame extensions holding the >bumper mounts. > > What are the good and bad experiences with flat-towing long distances at > highway speeds? > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as richb at u.washington.edu > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shelden3 at pldi.net Mon Feb 2 11:05:34 2009 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:05:34 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG In-Reply-To: References: <18093.164.58.184.10.1233585404.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Message-ID: <16132.164.58.184.10.1233597934.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Hey Brad, Yeah I seemed to recall that. I thought I had done that but who knows. I think I used that goopy blue sealer stuff, can't recall the name, just that it doesn't cure, what is that stuff? Starts with an H? But thanks for reminding me. If I get a wild hair I may pull the engine this weekend. I think we have the cam off a tooth as well. It is a kent 266 and I was never able to keep it from dieseling when we killed it. The motor is freash with just under 300 miles on it. I built the motor for my inlaw and it has set in teh car ever since. He had it painted and did the whole new brake lines, calipers, shocks, bushings the whole works. I have a 5speed, and would love to drop it in the car. I don't want a rivergate, so was hoping to find someone on the list that had a kit not being used but that is doubtful. cs > Hey Charlie, good to see you online again. One thing that is important to > do > when doing the timing cover seal. Put the cover on, and all the bolts on > LOOSELY. Put on the balancer, so that the seal will be centered correctly, > THEN tighten the bolts. > You may already know this, and if you do, I apologize for repeating it... > Brad > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:36 AM, wrote: > >> NO NO don't say that. I don't need a curse. My wife will kill me if >> this >> isn't ready by spring. She still beats me up for getting rid of the >> last >> one. >> >> cs >> >> > Oh oh! The dreaded, "I might as well do the engine bay while I have >> the >> > engine out" 5 year project!!!! :) >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shelden3 at pldi.net Mon Feb 2 11:07:28 2009 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:07:28 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG In-Reply-To: References: <18093.164.58.184.10.1233585404.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Message-ID: <23408.164.58.184.10.1233598048.squirrel@mail.pldi.net> Hey Brad, Yeah I seemed to recall that. I thought I had done that but who knows. I think I used that goopy blue sealer stuff, can't recall the name, just that it doesn't cure, what is that stuff? Starts with an H? But thanks for reminding me. If I get a wild hair I may pull the engine this weekend. I think we have the cam off a tooth as well. It is a kent 266 and I was never able to keep it from dieseling when we killed it. The motor is freash with just under 300 miles on it. I built the motor for my inlaw and it has set in teh car ever since. He had it painted and did the whole new brake lines, calipers, shocks, bushings the whole works. I have a 5speed, and would love to drop it in the car. I don't want a rivergate, so was hoping to find someone on the list that had a kit not being used but that is doubtful. cs > Hey Charlie, good to see you online again. One thing that is important to > do > when doing the timing cover seal. Put the cover on, and all the bolts on > LOOSELY. Put on the balancer, so that the seal will be centered correctly, > THEN tighten the bolts. > You may already know this, and if you do, I apologize for repeating it... > Brad From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Feb 2 11:45:39 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:45:39 EST Subject: [Spridgets] back in the seat of a MG Message-ID: Blue Hylomar I think it's NLA and now you get Blue silicone Hylomar. In a message dated 02/02/2009 18:14:38 GMT Standard Time, shelden3 at pldi.net writes: think I used that goopy blue sealer stuff From heard at datatrontech.net Mon Feb 2 11:48:29 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:48:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -interesting morning In-Reply-To: <1187939002.20090202094051@pacifier.com> References: <052901c98558$6dbe3cd0$1801010a@xp> <1187939002.20090202094051@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <054101c98566$d74c73c0$1801010a@xp> The sheriff didn't even ask for my version of what happened. He asked my buddy, the girl and the tow truck driver. He was leaning toward finding the girl at fault, but I think he was switching his mind to faulting the tow truck driver, mostly because he didn't have his yellow flashing lights on. We'll see what happens. Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 12:41 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT -interesting morning Hello Heard, Jeepers! Keep us posted on how the insurance company(s) sort all this out! Your fault for not getting the disabled rig off the road? The Tow Truck driver's because he pulled onto the road without looking? The girls's fault for tailgating and ramming the rear end? This story is far from finished! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Money is the root of all evil, and man needs roots. You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 14:10:48 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 13:10:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] U-Haul Message-ID: <37dc82d40902021310t79975f8fp68d0d54d8094bc6d@mail.gmail.com> I rented one of their trailers when I first picked up my Bugeye. I had to drive from the Sacramento area to Santa Cruz to pick up the car. I had a hitch put onto my Chevy Xtreme truck to do the tow job with. But U Haul said that my truck was too small for the job in which case I ended up renting a U Haul truck to pull the U Haul trailer. When we got to the car, my "new" Bugeye was just wide enough to fit into the ramps. The outside of the tyres were tight against the inside part of the rails, but it (fortunatley) was able to fit their trailer. If the car had wider tyres, it would have been a problem. Kirk 59BE From shop at justbrits.com Mon Feb 2 15:29:37 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:29:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HeeHee. Didn't sell at $21,000.00. Wonder what the reserve is?!?! How soon will it be re-listed (this was the 3rd)?? From billmasq at hotmail.com Mon Feb 2 17:31:16 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:31:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] BMC fastener codes-- In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902021310t79975f8fp68d0d54d8094bc6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902021310t79975f8fp68d0d54d8094bc6d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: A few days ago someone was asking for some way of reading the BMC fastener codes (or something like that). I got a complete breakdown at the last MG club meeting: I typed some of it in, hopefully enough to give everyone clues of how to read them: (I type realllllly slowly and that's why I didn't type it all in) Bill ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bolts- Hex head bolts: Prefix: Thread: Finish: HBN UNF PLAIN HBZ UNF ZINC HBP UNF CHROME HCN UNC PLAIN HCZ UNC ZINC HCP UNC CHROME Cup head square neck bolts: CBN UNF PLAIN CBZ UNF ZINC Hex head screws: (threaded full length) HNS UNF PLAIN HZS UNF ZINC HPS UNF CHROME HPN UNF PLAIN (POINTED SHANK) HPZ UNF ZINC (POINTED SHANK) HPP UNF CHROME (POINTED SHANK) NCS UNC PLAIN ZCS UNC ZINC PCS UNC CHROME PMN PLAIN PAN HEAD PMZ ZINC PAN HEAD PMP CHROME PAN HEAD PPN PLAIN PAN HEAD POINTED PPZ ZINC PAN HEAD POINTED PPP CHROME PAN HEAD POINTED RMN PLAIN RAISED COUNTERSUNK RMZ ZINC RAISED COUNTERSUNK RMP CHROME RAISED COUNTERSUNK --- Bolt code sizes---- DIAMETER (in 1/16 ths) LENGTH: 1/4 5/16 3/8 7/16 1/2 5/8 (IN 1/8ths) 1" 0408 1 1/8 0409 1 1/4 0410 0510 1 3/8 0411 0511 0611 1 1/2 0412 0512 0612 0712 1 5/8 0413 0513 0613 0713 0813 --- ETC---- (SAME SIZE PHILOSOPHY APPLIES TO ALL BOLT TYPES) SCREW SIZES DIAMETER (in 1/16ths) LENGTH: #6 #10 1/4 5/16 3/8 7/16 1/2 (IN 1/16ths) 3/16 0203 0303 1/4 0204 0304 5/16 0205 0305 3/8 0206 0306 0406 ---etc-- ---continues thru 2" length---- ----------------NUTS FOLLOW SAME PHILOSOPHY FOR SIZES AND FINISH-------- _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_01200 9 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 17:36:24 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:36:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Holy SMOKES !!! References: Message-ID: <31EE9F59B4ED492D967F4D43465A97BE@blackbox2> The picture is too small to ascertain the gaps in the doors. A phenomena called "pixel aliasing" prevents you from accurately seeing the the gaps correctly at the low resolution. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" > Love the floor mat. > > Here's a question. Maybe it's just the photo's, but aren't the gaps behind > the doors different? > > Which one is more correct? ( If there is such a thing. ) The driver's > door? From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 17:38:44 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:38:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! References: Message-ID: <195DFA8E37794420BF8142069FBEAA16@blackbox2> According to what I see, it did sell at $21K and reserve was met. > HeeHee. > > Didn't sell at $21,000.00. Wonder what the reserve is?!?! > > How soon will it be re-listed (this was the 3rd)?? From d.swanson at earthlink.net Mon Feb 2 18:00:31 2009 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:00:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shifter Message-ID: <4A7D48E9811947A3AC06A443CCB48CDE@HomeComputer> Is the shifter supposed to be different between a 1098 gearbox and a '70s 1275 box? When I put my shifter from my 1098 trans in the 1275 trans there was lots of play in the shift linkage. I had a 2-pc shifter that fits a lot better, but the retaining plate won't fit over the large center section of the 2-pc shifter to see how well it really works. Ideas? Dean '62 A.H. Sprite mkII From thcollin at mtu.edu Mon Feb 2 18:04:09 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:04:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic Message-ID: <78mg19$5oc767@email.mtu.edu> I have been researching my fathers time in the military. He would have been 90 this Thursday, but passed away when he was just 46 and I was not quite 16. I have some war time photographs of him without dates or where they were taken. The photos are stamped on the back "PASSED BY EXAMINER - BASE 2446 ARMY" Other pics have different BASE numbers. From the vegetation in the pics I assume they were taken in Australia or New Guinea. Is there any way to identify where these bases were located? I am unclear as to how pics were cleared by the Army. Did the GI's send film back home for processing? I have learned some interesting things. Dad entered the service in May of 1941. He was sent to Australia in Feb of 1942 (just after Pearl Harbor) on the Queen Elizabeth.(Feb 18 to March 29) - the only time the Queen made that trip. He ended up on New Guinea but I can't tell for sure if he was there for the battle of Milne Bay - a famous battle for the Ausies. He traveled home in June of 1944 and was discharged June 15 of 1945 just shortly before "Fat Man" and"Little Boy" were dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. So, it's an interesting study in history, but I come up with little additional info along the way and family members who might know have passed away too. If you can help with my question, please contact me directly. Thanks! It's a shame that the National Archives of Service Men's records had a fire that destroyed all that valuable information. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From shop at justbrits.com Mon Feb 2 18:36:11 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:36:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <195DFA8E37794420BF8142069FBEAA16@blackbox2> Message-ID: <> Where does it say 'sold', Dean?? All I see is Bidding has ended. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Feb 2 18:40:30 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:40:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! References: Message-ID: <0A56C1F185CA4B7BACE01D02D349B219@midget> > Where does it say 'sold', Dean?? All I see is Bidding has ended. I didn't think you could have a "Winning Bid" and a "Winning Bidder" unless someone won the auction? From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 19:07:16 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:07:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! References: Message-ID: <58755C56C8A6453A9E9B4BBB2BF69AB8@blackbox2> Click on the "bid history" link of the page. At the top is says Winning bid $21,000 Reserve met. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! > <> > > Where does it say 'sold', Dean?? All I see is Bidding has ended. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlh2001 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From healeyrick at yahoo.com Mon Feb 2 19:23:06 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 18:23:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic In-Reply-To: <78mg19$5oc767@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <334870.33493.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> What did we do w/o the internet? Hello EJP Base 2446 was Hollandia Dutch New Guinea there were 3 AirStrips there Cyclops , Sentani and Hollandia ,US Force's invaded the area April 22nd 1944 backed up by the US Navy Task Force 58 to kick the Jap's out and the first 5th Air Force aircraft to come in was the 8th FS' P-40N's from Gusap New Guinea on May 7th . http://www.flickr.com/photos/eviljungleprince/2110751678/ Rick --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Timothy H. Collins wrote: From: Timothy H. Collins Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 8:04 PM I have been researching my fathers time in the military. He would have been 90 this Thursday, but passed away when he was just 46 and I was not quite 16. I have some war time photographs of him without dates or where they were taken. The photos are stamped on the back "PASSED BY EXAMINER - BASE 2446 ARMY" Other pics have different BASE numbers. From the vegetation in the pics I assume they were taken in Australia or New Guinea. Is there any way to identify where these bases were located? I am unclear as to how pics were cleared by the Army. Did the GI's send film back home for processing? I have learned some interesting things. Dad entered the service in May of 1941. He was sent to Australia in Feb of 1942 (just after Pearl Harbor) on the Queen Elizabeth.(Feb 18 to March 29) - the only time the Queen made that trip. He ended up on New Guinea but I can't tell for sure if he was there for the battle of Milne Bay - a famous battle for the Ausies. He traveled home in June of 1944 and was discharged June 15 of 1945 just shortly before "Fat Man" and"Little Boy" were dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. So, it's an interesting study in history, but I come up with little additional info along the way and family members who might know have passed away too. If you can help with my question, please contact me directly. Thanks! It's a shame that the National Archives of Service Men's records had a fire that destroyed all that valuable information. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Feb 2 19:24:55 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:24:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic In-Reply-To: <78mg19$5oc767@email.mtu.edu> References: <78mg19$5oc767@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <49873A77.21.25EC212@kk7ss.verizon.net> Tim, You might start here,... Check the right hand side for other referemces... http://www.flickr.com/photos/eviljungleprince/2110751678/ I had a couple of relatives that survived the Death Railroad... All of my uncles and aunts were in the (Brit) services during WW2.... all 14 of them... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Feb 2 19:38:42 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:38:42 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Shifter In-Reply-To: <4A7D48E9811947A3AC06A443CCB48CDE@HomeComputer> References: <4A7D48E9811947A3AC06A443CCB48CDE@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <4987AE32.5020605@comcast.net> Dean Swanson wrote: > Is the shifter supposed to be different between a 1098 gearbox and a '70s > 1275 box? > > > > When I put my shifter from my 1098 trans in the 1275 trans there was lots of > play in the shift linkage. > > > > I had a 2-pc shifter that fits a lot better, but the retaining plate won't > fit over the large center section of the 2-pc shifter to see how well it > really works. > > Shifter are different from smooth to rib case trannys. The length between the large and small balls are different. Smooth being longer. I have overcome this with a washer under each bolt on the bottom of the plate. The 2 piece shifter will not work in the metal shift housing and all I have are smooth case shifters. I hate the witches hat boot so I did what I had to and it works fine. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Mon Feb 2 20:27:10 2009 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:27:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] U-Haul In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902021310t79975f8fp68d0d54d8094bc6d@mail.gmail.co m> Message-ID: <4.1.20090202222334.00d11500@mail.bellsouth.net> I had this problem with the first trailer I used to tow my ' 67 Midget Vintage Race car. I bolted a 2x6 into each rail. The thickness of the 2x6 matched the height of the inside flange, so the tires rode on a flat surface. I did cross the tie-down straps both front and rear so the car would not move sideways. Worked great for a few years until I got a better trailer. Bob At 04:10 PM 2/2/2009 , Kirk Hargreaves wrote: >I rented one of their trailers when I first picked up my Bugeye. I had to >drive from the Sacramento area to Santa Cruz to pick up the car. > >I had a hitch put onto my Chevy Xtreme truck to do the tow job with. But U >Haul said that my truck was too small for the job in which case I ended up >renting a U Haul truck to pull the U Haul trailer. > >When we got to the car, my "new" Bugeye was just wide enough to fit into the >ramps. The outside of the tyres were tight against the inside part of the >rails, but it (fortunatley) was able to fit their trailer. > >If the car had wider tyres, it would have been a problem. > >Kirk >59BE >_ From shop at justbrits.com Mon Feb 2 20:28:13 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 21:28:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <58755C56C8A6453A9E9B4BBB2BF69AB8@blackbox2> Message-ID: <> I don't know where you are 'looking' Dean, but what I am seeing does NOT say anything about 'winning' ANYWHERE !! Just 'bidding has ended'. AND like David, I have never seen a auction that did not have either You are NOT the Winner, Reserve not met, etc.! ODD to say the least!! From john.leier at leier.org Mon Feb 2 20:32:00 2009 From: john.leier at leier.org (John Leier) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 19:32:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830> Ed, Do a search for Austin Healey Sprite with the completed auctions box checked. It will show this Sprite partway down the first page with the word "Sold" under the price. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! > <> > > I don't know where you are 'looking' Dean, but what I am > seeing does NOT say anything about 'winning' ANYWHERE !! > > Just 'bidding has ended'. > > AND like David, I have never seen a auction that did not have > either You are NOT the Winner, Reserve not met, etc.! > > ODD to say the least!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as john.leier at leier.org > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Mon Feb 2 21:03:07 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 22:03:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830> References: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830> Message-ID: <00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> Now if the guy can just collect:) A bid is one thing but the money is another. Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Leier Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:32 PM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! Ed, Do a search for Austin Healey Sprite with the completed auctions box checked. It will show this Sprite partway down the first page with the word "Sold" under the price. John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed's Shop" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! > <> > > I don't know where you are 'looking' Dean, but what I am > seeing does NOT say anything about 'winning' ANYWHERE !! > > Just 'bidding has ended'. > > AND like David, I have never seen a auction that did not have > either You are NOT the Winner, Reserve not met, etc.! > > ODD to say the least!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as john.leier at leier.org > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.16 - Release Date: 1/30/2009 12:00 AM From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Feb 2 22:00:50 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:00:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic In-Reply-To: <334870.33493.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <334870.33493.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Including the mistakes - - There was no "Air Force," as in US Air Force, it was the US Army Air Corps or US Army Air Force - - unless they are talking in general terms or a force arriving by air - - always one nit picker. :-) The USAF was not established until 1947. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 2, 2009, at 6:23 PM, Rick Neville wrote: > What did we do w/o the internet? > > Hello EJP Base 2446 was Hollandia Dutch New > Guinea there were 3 AirStrips there Cyclops , > Sentani and Hollandia ,US Force's invaded the > area April 22nd 1944 backed up by the US Navy > Task Force 58 to kick the Jap's out and the > first 5th Air Force aircraft to come in was > the 8th FS' P-40N's from Gusap New Guinea on > May 7th . From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Feb 2 22:24:05 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:24:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic In-Reply-To: References: <334870.33493.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: <49876475.16006.302C80E@kk7ss.verizon.net> On 2 Feb 2009 at 21:00, Kitterer Bob wrote: >> The USAF was not established until 1947. Correct... ;-)) I was a member of the R.A.F. which was officially formed on April 1st 1918.... we always knew it was a bl**dy joke ;^o Before that it was considered to be part of the Cavalry !!!!!!!! Pilots instructions included "be sure to remove spurs before entering the cockpit" -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Feb 3 06:46:29 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:46:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. In-Reply-To: References: <542315.64257.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes that is the V8, but it is a conversion with painted bumpers. It belongs to Mark Johnson of the Philly MG Club. Larry On Jan 27, 2009, at 6:25 PM, brian S wrote: > Steve and all, > > if it's the same one that was at the Valentine's RoadRally, > I think it's the Red Convertible in the background between > the Red and green TR's with their hood's up toward the far right of > the photo. > Nice car. Nice Pictures Steve. > > Brian S. > > Bugeyeracer under resto > > > >> >> FWIW, there was a V8 MGB at the "Brits at the Village" show in >> Lahaska PA >> last October. I am pretty sure it's in this picture, the red one, >> behind >> the red and green Triumphs... http://www.1978mgmidget.com/photos/Pan_2.html >> (or maybe it was the white one...or the green one?) >> >> Steve >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ron Soave" >> To: "David Woerpel" >> Cc: ; >> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] RV8 For Sale in U.S.A. >> >> >>> There are many V8 MGBs in the country (Peter, Mike Gigante >>> inadvertantly >>> stayed at a hotel where a convention of them was being held in >>> GFrand >>> Rapids in 2002). I believe the car Kim has mentioned is the genuine >>> Costello article. >>> >>> I got home to find strategically placed (by Lynette) AWD sedan >>> brochures >>> sprinkled in among my magazines (the ones where I only read the >>> articles). >>> I'll have to fight back with a RV8 picture or two. >>> >>> Ron >>> --- On Tue, 1/27/09, David Woerpel wrote: >>> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. > http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_howitworks_01200 > 9 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Feb 3 08:21:20 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:21:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic In-Reply-To: <49876475.16006.302C80E@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <334870.33493.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49876475.16006.302C80E@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <941EE249-A7E3-4F4E-9889-85F4DE61A009@mac.com> Excellent LOL Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:24 PM, Dave G. wrote: > Before that it was considered to be part of the Cavalry !!!!!!!! > Pilots instructions included "be sure to remove spurs before entering > the cockpit" Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Feb 3 08:32:00 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:32:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> References: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830> <00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> Message-ID: <8D5F154D4EE040518D2C35C985DF7F12@Home> > Now if the guy can just collect:) I have been watching BE's on Ebay long enough to see a remarkable proportion of failed sales. Does anyone have a feel for why they happen? Are people just playing around? Are they emotionally unstable or excessively caught up in the bidding? Are they legitimit bidders who failed to get financing? Do they go to pick up the car and reject it? Etc.? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Feb 3 08:32:30 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:32:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic In-Reply-To: <941EE249-A7E3-4F4E-9889-85F4DE61A009@mac.com> References: <334870.33493.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49876475.16006.302C80E@kk7ss.verizon.net> <941EE249-A7E3-4F4E-9889-85F4DE61A009@mac.com> Message-ID: hmm.. while a mere youth I discovered some item in our attic and asked Dad about them, he was a naval flight surgeon before he started down the trail of researcher, and he replied that those items were part of becoming a naval aviator, they were a white silk scarf and yellow mid forearm leather gloves.. Lester On Feb 3, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Excellent > > LOL > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 9:24 PM, Dave G. wrote: > >> Before that it was considered to be part of the Cavalry !!!!!!!! >> Pilots instructions included "be sure to remove spurs before entering >> the cockpit" > > > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition From tinydog at snet.net Tue Feb 3 08:37:47 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:37:47 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <8D5F154D4EE040518D2C35C985DF7F12@Home> References: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830><00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> <8D5F154D4EE040518D2C35C985DF7F12@Home> Message-ID: <020320091537.28232.498864CB0007F9B300006E4822230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog added: shill bidding. Now back to my bone. -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe : -------------- > > Now if the guy can just collect:) > > I have been watching BE's on Ebay long enough to see a remarkable proportion > of failed sales. Does anyone have a feel for why they happen? Are people > just playing around? Are they emotionally unstable or excessively caught up > in the bidding? Are they legitimit bidders who failed to get financing? Do > they go to pick up the car and reject it? Etc.? From cbaustin at verizon.net Tue Feb 3 08:34:07 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:34:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic References: <78mg19$5oc767@email.mtu.edu> <49873A77.21.25EC212@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: Do I remember reading (hearing?) somewhere that at one point DMH had the lowest RAC (RAF) "member's number" as the longest surviving pilot?? There was an anecdote that he went to check into the RAF Club in London and was almost refused entry due to the fact that the (young) receptionist had never seen a number that low. Later, CB From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Feb 3 10:33:28 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:33:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] cdn clunkers Message-ID: Clunker removal plan bound to fail, says auto analyst http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/02/02/clunkers.html From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 10:54:51 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:54:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] cdn clunkers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0902030954n3f0a1f5br83be286166933168@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > Clunker removal plan bound to fail, says auto analyst > > http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2009/02/02/clunkers.html Unless Obama intercedes with Pelosi and Reid or the Republicans in the Senate can grow a real spine, we're going to get this system in the states to the tune of Billions of dollars of our tax money. It failed a few years ago in California so Feinstein and Pelosi have decided that we should all share the cost of failure. As of Monday evening it was still included in the "Economic Stimulus" plan. Some stimulus, eh? Call your Senator and tell him/her to grow some cajones. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From mdrowe at optonline.net Tue Feb 3 11:23:59 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:23:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Smooth-case Transmissions Message-ID: <814A4C9347B941BC886DB501EC7D5036@Home> Is there a market for smooth-case transmissions? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From wbmcleod at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 11:40:51 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:40:51 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Smooth-case Transmissions In-Reply-To: <814A4C9347B941BC886DB501EC7D5036@Home> References: <814A4C9347B941BC886DB501EC7D5036@Home> Message-ID: <75D7AC6A-B21F-453F-8064-FD80B0DAFACE@gmail.com> Check the Long Island boat docks! Bill Tucson On Feb 3, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Is there a market for smooth-case transmissions? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 11:41:36 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:41:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Father in the Military Message-ID: <37dc82d40902031041o1b3c900fta45f9c389e1999f7@mail.gmail.com> Tim, Great story. I enjoyed reading it very much. A few years ago a B17 from WWII landed at our little airport here in Vacaville. I paid 400 dollars to go up in it. They allowed you to wander through the plane while airborne. I sat where my father sat, a tail gunner and radio operator during WWII. Actually , the tail gunner section was closed off - however the ball turret was open as well as the bomber seat, and the side guns were all there, of course inactive. The guide wires all run inside the fuselage. I was glad that no one slipped and then decided to grasp one to pull themselves back up. It gave me chills to sit in the radio operator seat that was his during the war. He also invented a radio tuning device that the Navy continued to use. He was also shot down while in a smaller war bird and spent 3 days in a raft. He told me that while stationed on an island in the Pacific. . . that the native women were used to having their breasts hanging out all the time. The Navy issued T-Shirts to the women as an attempt to cover their breasts. The next day the women, now loving their new t-shirts, had cut holes out on each side of the front so that their breasts could continue to hang free. He said it was an hysterical sight to see hundreds of these native women in their new white t-shirts proudly displaying their breasts hanging out through self made holes in the front. While over Lake Tahoe in a PBYF, the pilot wanted to land in the lake to take home a slot machine. On take off the plane was not able to get up enough speed to get enough lift to clear the area (higher altitude). The Navy had to take the plane apart and truck it back down to a lower elevation. Never did tell me what became of the pilot who went off course to get his hands on a authentic slot machine. Kirk 59BE From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 3 12:26:19 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:26:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <020320091537.28232.498864CB0007F9B300006E4822230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <> Just ONE of my points, folks. Go back and look at the bids! But STILL I have never have seen an auction end results page like it! And YES, the 'shill' 'won' it! From cfchrist at earthlink.net Tue Feb 3 12:58:44 2009 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:58:44 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] OT -interesting morning Message-ID: <9470081.1233691124415.JavaMail.root@elwamui-norfolk.atl.sa.earthlink.net> isn't this where you start drinking heavily? ok moderately and say it was less than you really imbibed? i'm thinking sedation here! chuck. back to sanding a very old saab race car for paint...... BTW , blew the head gasket on my only remaining running car today.....grumble-grumble-grumble..... -----Original Message----- >From: Heard >Sent: Feb 2, 2009 12:05 PM >To: 'Spridget List' >Subject: [Spridgets] OT -interesting morning > >Well, I've had an interesting morning. Driving my old Tahoe with 290,000 >miles on it to work. Traveling down a dirt road in front of my house, I ran >over a piece pipe buried in the sand. It wrapped around the axle near the >left rear wheel and broke the brake line. I knew I had hit something but >didn't realize it was stuck until I got to the pavement and heard something >scraping down the pavement. I hit the brakes and they went to the floor. I >managed to get it stopped, called my trusty wrecker service and turned on >the flashers. You might think this is strange enough, but you would be >incorrect.... > >I call my buddy at work and ask him to come get me so I can go back to the >house and get a different car. He shows up and we are standing in the road >behind my vehicle waiting for the wrecker. This is a pretty isolated road. >We see the wrecker coming down the dirt road and I notice there is a car >behind it. The wrecker pulls over into the grass on the other side of the >road and I'm thinking...OK, he is going to turn around and grab my truck >from the rear. At that moment, he does exactly that...not knowing there is >a car behind him. So this young lady driving a Maxima, swerves to miss the >wrecker, just scrapes his bumper and my buddy and I both have to leap off >the road because she is heading right for us. Sure enough, she plows right >into the rear of my truck. I'm pretty sure it totalled the Maxima. It >shoved my parked Tahoe about 15 feet and bent my bumper. The girl was OK >thanks to the air bags. > >I almost had to go change my shorts, and at this point, I'm thinking I need >more coffee....and another wrecker. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Tue Feb 3 14:07:57 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:07:57 EST Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Computer sound card problem Message-ID: Hi List, Over Christmas I upgraded my daughters PC with a much bigger hard drive and everything seemed to go ok except the sound card (which is integral to the motherboard doesn't work). I think the issue was not having a driver which I think I subsquently b a llsed up by installing some incorrect driver. I need to fix it for her otherwise she'll never shut up! I left the old hard drive in the PC case and so I guess that it has all the right sound card drivers on it. Soooo, is there a way to find out what files I need to copy from the old drive to the new one to make the sound card work? thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Feb 3 14:15:11 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:15:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Computer sound card problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1737051397.20090203131511@pacifier.com> Hello WeslakeMonza1330, if you know the brand of the computer, you should be able to go to the websight and download the proper drivers.. also try here.. http://www.laptops-drivers.com/ -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Be alert, America needs more lerts. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Tue Feb 3 14:15:41 2009 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:15:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] '68 Sprite heater core/blower motor Message-ID: <861391B8-FC20-4BB8-9160-7B8BDE12E642@gerardsgarage.com> Does anyone have a good photograph under the bonnet of an original heater setup on a '68 Sprite? I have a complete setup, identical to what was used on earlier cars, which I thought was still used through 1968. I have the box with the core mounted, extension tube with the air flow shutoff valve attached to that. When I try to mount the motor, it's a couple inches too far over to line up with mounting holes. I'm guessing the blower motor should be different for this model. I know later models used a combined blower and core box, but I think those came in on later models. pictures here: http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/heater/heater.htm Thanks Gerard From corvallis at peoplepc.com Tue Feb 3 14:21:54 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 13:21:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Computer sound card problem In-Reply-To: <1737051397.20090203131511@pacifier.com> References: <1737051397.20090203131511@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4D09752DB7D7415BB1D3150785DB40F3@spider> You can also use google to find driver sites. You can shorten hunting around the internet if you know the brand of the motherboard or soundcard. Also, most software sites have links to soundcard drivers. It can be done. ...bill ============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 1:15 PM To: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Computer sound card problem Hello WeslakeMonza1330, if you know the brand of the computer, you should be able to go to the websight and download the proper drivers.. also try here.. http://www.laptops-drivers.com/ -- From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 14:26:21 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:26:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] '68 Sprite heater core/blower motor In-Reply-To: <861391B8-FC20-4BB8-9160-7B8BDE12E642@gerardsgarage.com> References: <861391B8-FC20-4BB8-9160-7B8BDE12E642@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902031326y55cb3215xa038301e44938895@mail.gmail.com> Gerard, Mine is a 68 Midget but I've never mounted the heater and blower. The one thing that doesn't match yours is the valve. The heater core and blower look identical as does the mounting position, but I don't have a valve like yours on the heater core intake. I'll look and get back to you. Also, lets see what Bradster shows. I remember his at LotO and it looked pretty much like mine. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Gerard Chateauvieux < pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a good photograph under the bonnet of an original > heater setup on a '68 Sprite? > > I have a complete setup, identical to what was used on earlier cars, > which I thought was still used through 1968. I have the box with the > core mounted, extension tube with the air flow shutoff valve attached > to that. When I try to mount the motor, it's a couple inches too far > over to line up with mounting holes. I'm guessing the blower motor > should be different for this model. > > I know later models used a combined blower and core box, but I think > those came in on later models. > > pictures here: > > http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/heater/heater.htm > > Thanks From andrewpayne at intrex.net Tue Feb 3 15:47:56 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:47:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] zombies! (duh, no LBC) Message-ID: <34E7D8F5AE5A403AB4B41B10583595DC@AndrewHP> So, this may be old news to many of you, but recently the very simple instructions to hack temporary road signs were posted online. The instructions spread like some sort of post apocalyptic virus. Most of the hacks have been jokes, pertaining to the real threat. Zombies. I think it is quite funny, since they are not causing havoc. Anyway, here is a link to one of many sites covering the zombie warning signs. http://jalopnik.com/5145623/hacked-electronic-road-sign-mega+gallery Drew From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Tue Feb 3 15:53:17 2009 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:53:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] '68 Sprite heater core/blower motor In-Reply-To: References: <861391B8-FC20-4BB8-9160-7B8BDE12E642@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: Yeah, you've jogged my memory now. I think the motor and core are correct, it's just the vent flat that was changed to be on the front of the motor housing. I've never had one of those around, so I didn't remember. Thanks! Gerard On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:26 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > > Looks to me like you have the wrong extension on your box. What > does it look like if you take the extension off and mount the > blower on those holes? Maybe a short piece of flex pipe goes there, > or maybe no extension at all. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerard Chateauvieux" > > To: "Midget/Sprite" ; "Sprite" > ; "Spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 4:15 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] '68 Sprite heater core/blower motor > > >> Does anyone have a good photograph under the bonnet of an >> original heater setup on a '68 Sprite? >> >> I have a complete setup, identical to what was used on earlier >> cars, which I thought was still used through 1968. I have the box >> with the core mounted, extension tube with the air flow shutoff >> valve attached to that. When I try to mount the motor, it's a >> couple inches too far over to line up with mounting holes. I'm >> guessing the blower motor should be different for this model. >> >> I know later models used a combined blower and core box, but I >> think those came in on later models. >> >> pictures here: >> >> http://gerardsgarage.com/Garage/heater/heater.htm >> >> Thanks >> >> Gerard >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Feb 3 17:12:16 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:12:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! References: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830><00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> <8D5F154D4EE040518D2C35C985DF7F12@Home> Message-ID: <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> The other day my brother and I were discussing the ebay shill bid issue. I was wondering why ebay couldn't do something about this. I have no problem a "zero" history bidder coming in at the last moment and winning the item. You never can tell, somebody might want the item but does not have a current ebay account. BUT, if after the auction completes the seller contacts the second highest bidder (through ebay's email) and offers the item, then something is afoul and the ebay machinery should be able to flag this situation and penalize the seller and revoke the shill bid account. This is what happened to me when I tried to bid on a 210 trans. Also, If the item payment is managed by ebay, and the shill winner never completes the transaction then ebay should also flag it. Or if the item is re-posted by the same seller soon after a prior auction completes. So I'm telling this to my brother and he brings up a good point. He feels that it's not in ebay's interest to do anything about it, since the seller must pay ebay it's cut when the item sells, regardless if it goes to a shill bidder or not. I disagree with him, I think ebay's reputation and seller's confidence is in jeopordy. So given that the incidence of a shill bid is easily detectable, then ebay should do something about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! >> Now if the guy can just collect:) > > I have been watching BE's on Ebay long enough to see a remarkable proportion > of failed sales. Does anyone have a feel for why they happen? Are people > just playing around? Are they emotionally unstable or excessively caught up > in the bidding? Are they legitimit bidders who failed to get financing? Do > they go to pick up the car and reject it? Etc.? From wbmcleod at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 17:30:19 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:30:19 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> References: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830><00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> <8D5F154D4EE040518D2C35C985DF7F12@Home> <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> Message-ID: <7CA41376-4D0D-4FFA-89FC-E05C40BEB0B1@gmail.com> I have some experience with zero feedback buyers who are just having a good time (I sell a lot of parts on ebay, and have never used a shill bidder, thank you!). As a seller, ebay allows me to block or remove zero feedback buyers, but for some reason these jokesters seem to love restored cars. If I were the seller, I would be able to recover my fees (after a while) and if there was a real bidder in 2nd or 3rd place and I offered it to them at their high bid, it is still a bid they wanted to make. You can argue the ethics of such a deal (If it weren't for the shill, he could have gotten it cheaper!) but it is still a price the bidder was willing to pay and a price that he can refuse to pay if he has second thoughts. I have many arguments with ebay, but this system isn't one of them. As a seller, if I have been scammed by a non-paying bidder, I am of course going to relist it. What else am I going to do? Is ebay supposed to prevent this? Bill slightlyclassics Tucson On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > The other day my brother and I were discussing the ebay shill bid > issue. > I was wondering why ebay couldn't do something about this. > > I have no problem a "zero" history bidder coming in at the last > moment and winning the item. > You never can tell, somebody might want the item but does not have a > current ebay account. > > BUT, if after the auction completes the seller contacts the second > highest bidder (through ebay's email) and offers the item, then > something is afoul and the ebay machinery should be able to flag this > situation and penalize the seller and revoke the shill bid account. > This is what happened to me when I tried to bid on a 210 trans. > > Also, If the item payment is managed by ebay, and the shill winner > never completes the transaction > then ebay should also flag it. Or if the item is re-posted by the > same seller soon after a prior auction > completes. > > So I'm telling this to my brother and he brings up a good point. He > feels that it's not in ebay's interest to do anything about it, > since the seller must pay ebay it's > cut when the item sells, regardless if it goes to a shill bidder or > not. > > I disagree with him, I think ebay's reputation and seller's > confidence is in jeopordy. So given that the incidence of a shill > bid is easily detectable, then ebay should do something about it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! > > >>> Now if the guy can just collect:) >> I have been watching BE's on Ebay long enough to see a remarkable >> proportion of failed sales. Does anyone have a feel for why they >> happen? Are people just playing around? Are they emotionally >> unstable or excessively caught up in the bidding? Are they >> legitimit bidders who failed to get financing? Do they go to pick >> up the car and reject it? Etc.? > _______________________________________________ From kk7ss at verizon.net Tue Feb 3 17:31:05 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:31:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> References: , <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> Message-ID: <49887149.16472.B1A6DC@kk7ss.verizon.net> My married boy and myself have had some problems with eBay... After several emails and phone calls, our personal opinion is that eBay doesn't really care --- just as long as they collect their commission.... On 3 Feb 2009 at 19:12, Dean Hedin wrote: >> I disagree with him, I think ebay's reputation and seller's >> confidence is in jeopordy. So given that the incidence of a shill bid >> is easily detectable, then ebay should do something about it. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 17:33:28 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:33:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] '68 Sprite heater core/blower motor In-Reply-To: References: <861391B8-FC20-4BB8-9160-7B8BDE12E642@gerardsgarage.com> <43840a7e0902031326y55cb3215xa038301e44938895@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902031633o775c76as9554e5697f30b1f3@mail.gmail.com> Joe, I am copying your question to the list. I'm no kind of expert on this stuff. Others will know far better than I. Cheers!! Jim On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:22 PM, joe sackal wrote: > HI,YOU DO KNOW SOME YEARS THE HEATERIS ON THE OPPERSIT SIDE. jOE From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 18:48:10 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:48:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> References: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830> <00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> <8D5F154D4EE040518D2C35C985DF7F12@Home> <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> Message-ID: Dean, do you REALLY think that eBay has "ethics"?? These are the same jokers that are pressures everyone to use PayPal. Since they OWN PayPal, they get paid on both ends, by the buyer AND seller. They are just a legal scam. On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > The other day my brother and I were discussing the ebay shill bid issue. > I was wondering why ebay couldn't do something about this. > > I have no problem a "zero" history bidder coming in at the last moment and > winning the item. > You never can tell, somebody might want the item but does not have a > current ebay account. > > BUT, if after the auction completes the seller contacts the second highest > bidder (through ebay's email) and offers the item, then something is afoul > and the ebay machinery should be able to flag this > situation and penalize the seller and revoke the shill bid account. This is > what happened to me when I tried to bid on a 210 trans. > > Also, If the item payment is managed by ebay, and the shill winner never > completes the transaction > then ebay should also flag it. Or if the item is re-posted by the same > seller soon after a prior auction > completes. > > So I'm telling this to my brother and he brings up a good point. He feels > that it's not in ebay's interest to do anything about it, since the seller > must pay ebay it's > cut when the item sells, regardless if it goes to a shill bidder or not. > > I disagree with him, I think ebay's reputation and seller's confidence is > in jeopordy. So given that the incidence of a shill bid is easily > detectable, then ebay should do something about it. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! > > > Now if the guy can just collect:) >>> >> >> I have been watching BE's on Ebay long enough to see a remarkable >> proportion of failed sales. Does anyone have a feel for why they happen? >> Are people just playing around? Are they emotionally unstable or >> excessively caught up in the bidding? Are they legitimit bidders who failed >> to get financing? Do they go to pick up the car and reject it? Etc.? >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 18:58:05 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:58:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830> <00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> <8D5F154D4EE040518D2C35C985DF7F12@Home> <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0902031758p24a93e7cy89c46063e8be2f5e@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > Dean, do you REALLY think that eBay has "ethics"?? > These are the same jokers that are pressures everyone to use PayPal. Since > they OWN PayPal, they get paid on both ends, by the buyer AND seller. They > are just a legal scam. > I'm not going to argue whether eBay has any ethics because it does indeed often seem that they only care that they get their cut of a sale. I also understand the complaints about forcing people to use Payal (that eBay now owns). I am curious about the "they get paid on both ends" comment though because as a buyer on eBay it's never cost me anything to use PayPal. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 19:08:25 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:08:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0902031758p24a93e7cy89c46063e8be2f5e@mail.gmail.com> References: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830> <00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> <8D5F154D4EE040518D2C35C985DF7F12@Home> <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> <8de85a9c0902031758p24a93e7cy89c46063e8be2f5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I will fess up that I DO NOT have a PayPal account. I have read much of the discussion on eBays forums from sellers and buyers about the charges. I do not have any personal experience with those charges myself, and I have been successful in most cases in convincing the seller to accept a money order. That may change, but until it does, this is how I will deal with eBay. On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Jeff Foster wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Brad Fornal > wrote: > > Dean, do you REALLY think that eBay has "ethics"?? > > These are the same jokers that are pressures everyone to use PayPal. > Since > > they OWN PayPal, they get paid on both ends, by the buyer AND seller. > They > > are just a legal scam. > > > I'm not going to argue whether eBay has any ethics because it does > indeed often seem that they only care that they get their cut of a > sale. > > I also understand the complaints about forcing people to use Payal > (that eBay now owns). > > I am curious about the "they get paid on both ends" comment though > because as a buyer on eBay it's never cost me anything to use PayPal. > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mhagopian at hoppetool.com Tue Feb 3 19:19:36 2009 From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:19:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Computer sound card problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87a1f55d0902031819s4eefaca1w73797fab56c8688b@mail.gmail.com> Go into the Device Manager located in the control pannel, and there should be a yellow triangle with a "!" in it. right mouse click on it and say update driver.. there may be others like this... update all of them On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:07 PM, wrote: > Hi List, > > Over Christmas I upgraded my daughters PC with a much bigger hard drive and > everything seemed to go ok except the sound card (which is integral to the > motherboard doesn't work). I think the issue was not having a driver which > I > think I subsquently b a llsed up by installing some incorrect driver. > > I need to fix it for her otherwise she'll never shut up! > > I left the old hard drive in the PC case and so I guess that it has all the > right sound card drivers on it. > > Soooo, is there a way to find out what files I need to copy from the old > drive to the new one to make the sound card work? > > thanks > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mhagopian at hoppetool.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Sincerely, Matt Hagopian From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 19:28:46 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 20:28:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Computer sound card problem In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0902031819s4eefaca1w73797fab56c8688b@mail.gmail.com> References: <87a1f55d0902031819s4eefaca1w73797fab56c8688b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0902031828m2a9fcf10s88ab103786bf61e6@mail.gmail.com> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Matt Hagopian wrote: > Go into the Device Manager located in the control pannel, and there should > be a yellow triangle with a "!" in it. right mouse click on it and say > update driver.. there may be others like this... update all of them Sometimes it's just as easy to right-click on them and select "Uninstall", then reboot and let Windows detect the device anew and hopefully it will determine the correct driver the next time. Of course this is all assuming the problem is on a Windows PC. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Feb 3 19:58:57 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:58:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > successful in most cases in convincing the seller to accept a money order They have a new policy that will not allow payment other than PayPal. I think it goes into effect next month. I can't use PayPal anymore because I've been too good a customer. If you exceed $10,000 in purchases, they cut off your PayPal and insist you link them to your bank account. I refuse to do that, so I can't buy through PayPal, and I can't sell either. In another month, I won't even be able to buy with a money order. They need some competition, but I guess that's an out-dated concept. From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 3 20:05:28 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:05:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 21, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <498905F8.4000500@sbcglobal.net> Tim, The National Military Personnel Records Center is in St. Louis. They had a huge fire in the early 1970s that took off the entire top floor. It was only about a mile or so from my house and was quite a site. Burned for several days. Millions of records stored in cardboard boxes with NO ZERO NADA sprinkler system! Worked there the next summer while I was in college going through half-burned freeze-dried boxes of records trying to recover them. Us college kids were supposed to go through at least 300 a day while wearing dust masks to keep the ashes out of our lungs, but the records were so interesting we could only do about half that. There was stuff from the Spanish=American War, both World Wars and lots of records from Alcatraz. Even saw instruction manuals for ICBMs and other fun toys. A truly disastrous loss of history, but the military is known for keeping multiple copies of records. Keep looking. You may find the answers you seek. http://www.archives.gov/st-louis/military-personnel/fire-1973.html Lee --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Timothy H. Collins wrote: From: Timothy H. Collins Subject: [Spridgets] World War II - Way Off Topic To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 8:04 PM I have been researching my fathers time in the military. He would have been 90 this Thursday, but passed away when he was just 46 and I was not quite 16. I have some war time photographs of him without dates or where they were taken. The photos are stamped on the back "PASSED BY EXAMINER - BASE 2446 ARMY" Other pics have different BASE numbers. From the vegetation in the pics I assume they were taken in Australia or New Guinea. Is there any way to identify where these bases were located? I am unclear as to how pics were cleared by the Army. Did the GI's send film back home for processing? I have learned some interesting things. Dad entered the service in May of 1941. He was sent to Australia in Feb of 1942 (just after Pearl Harbor) on the Queen Elizabeth.(Feb 18 to March 29) - the only time the Queen made that trip. He ended up on New Guinea but I can't tell for sure if he was there for the battle of Milne Bay - a famous battle for the Ausies. He traveled home in June of 1944 and was discharged June 15 of 1945 just shortly before "Fat Man" and"Little Boy" were dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima. So, it's an interesting study in history, but I come up with little additional info along the way and family members who might know have passed away too. If you can help with my question, please contact me directly. Thanks! It's a shame that the National Archives of Service Men's records had a fire that destroyed all that valuable information. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jpaschke at bak.rr.com Tue Feb 3 20:20:42 2009 From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com (Jon Paschke) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:20:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CC8E55EFCF341A98CE8F67EAD75F554@JonPC> What you want to do is create a separate account and keep just a few bucks in it and use that one only for paypal. You can still chose to use your CC to pay for your winning and if you sell then transfer the money to your acc and write yourself a check. >> successful in most cases in convincing the seller to accept a money order > They have a new policy that will not allow payment other than PayPal. I > think it goes into effect next month. I can't use PayPal anymore because > I've been too good a customer. If you exceed $10,000 in purchases, they > cut > off your PayPal and insist you link them to your bank account. I refuse to > do that, so I can't buy through PayPal, and I can't sell either. In > another > month, I won't even be able to buy with a money order. They need some > competition, but I guess that's an out-dated concept. From lbcs at embarqmail.com Tue Feb 3 20:21:43 2009 From: lbcs at embarqmail.com (Bill Miller (LBCs)) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:21:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <572C1B3A26CE4A1DA83B6D21B100230B@Bill> You can do what I do and open another free account at your bank. Keep only $30 or so in that account and link that account to paypal. No harm, no foul, and if something bad happens and someone robs the account somehow, you are only out $30 bucks. I must admit, I like paypal, I feel it gives me another level of security on my credit card purchases - I use it for non-ebay buying too, like musicians friend... -----Original Message----- They have a new policy that will not allow payment other than PayPal. I think it goes into effect next month. I can't use PayPal anymore because I've been too good a customer. If you exceed $10,000 in purchases, they cut off your PayPal and insist you link them to your bank account. I refuse to do that, so I can't buy through PayPal, and I can't sell either. In another month, I won't even be able to buy with a money order. They need some competition, but I guess that's an out-dated concept. From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Feb 3 20:54:00 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:54:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Smooth-case Transmissions In-Reply-To: <814A4C9347B941BC886DB501EC7D5036@Home> References: <814A4C9347B941BC886DB501EC7D5036@Home> Message-ID: <49891158.1090409@comcast.net> Michael Rowe wrote: > Is there a market for smooth-case transmissions? > > I hope so, I have 6 or 8 of them, -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From froggi60 at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 20:55:17 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:55:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Smooth-case Transmissions In-Reply-To: <49891158.1090409@comcast.net> References: <814A4C9347B941BC886DB501EC7D5036@Home> <49891158.1090409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902031955l7109cbafo650d59b8644a8625@mail.gmail.com> How much is aluminum worth these days.... From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 3 20:56:14 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:56:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0902031758p24a93e7cy89c46063e8be2f5e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> I have been PRAYING for the above, folks. If you have a Business Account you DO pay !!! Just like EVERY Donation to the Holy Sprite Fund COST Frank EVERY time a 'donation' was made because his account IS a Business Account. But like Johnson say, I don't know anything!! Nyuk, Nyuk !!!! Got to love it when an UN-planned deal come together!! From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 3 21:00:38 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:00:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Computer sound card problem In-Reply-To: <8de85a9c0902031828m2a9fcf10s88ab103786bf61e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> AND Jeff, whilst your 'instructions' are OK, it depends on WHICH WinDoze version one is using!!! I've got 98 on the least used box, 2000Pro on 2 most used and XP on the Med. usage one. Each different. sUprize, sUprize !!! NOT!! From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 3 21:03:20 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:03:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Smooth-case Transmissions In-Reply-To: <49891158.1090409@comcast.net> Message-ID: <> Michael DOES have a 'market', Frank !!! Didn't you read the one note that told him to 'offer them up' to a L.I. Marina??? Buoy 'anchors'!!!! LOL From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 3 21:06:00 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 22:06:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] '68 Sprite heater core/blower motor In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902031633o775c76as9554e5697f30b1f3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Geesh Jim, open your Moss Catalog. 1500s is the answer. Ed From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Feb 3 23:16:24 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 01:16:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! References: <18A06A2B73FA4C00B8520EED79B09835@Latitude830> <00c701c985b4$52849d40$f78dd7c0$@net> <8D5F154D4EE040518D2C35C985DF7F12@Home> <335BA4683A2141DBB175862490487E65@blackbox2> Message-ID: Not a question of ethics from ebay's point of view. It's a question of loosing customers because of the customer's ethical point of view. >From the response of this subject on this list it sounds like alot of folks are not happy with ebay. That can't be a good thing for ebay's business. If we all loved ebay and thought they were making the effort to make the auctions proper then we probably would'nt care if they had the monopoly or even charged a little more. We just want the auctions to be fair and don't want want a "dirt bag" experience. Like the time I wanted a Thinkpad T30 and IBM ran out. IBM told me to go on ebay. I find one and I place a bid. After I won the auction and sent the money the seller indicated to me that he did not have the item. WTF? Selling things we do not have? After a sluggish response from ebay's customer service, this dirt bag ends up leaving me bad feedback! I still think the shill bidding is easily detectable by their servers and they should just implement it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Fornal Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! Dean, do you REALLY think that eBay has "ethics"?? These are the same jokers that are pressures everyone to use PayPal. Since they OWN PayPal, they get paid on both ends, by the buyer AND seller. They are just a legal scam. From jmj3351 at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 06:04:37 2009 From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:04:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <435735012.2925241233752677608.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I had a nice little sideline business going on ebay for about three years selling shooting related items. Despite constantly getting jacked around by ebay and paypal, I endured. Then ebay decided to ban most of the shooting related material and left me high and dry. Unlike many others, I was lucky in that I did not have much inventory on hand. I know of others that had thousands of $ in inventory and there is no other sites that get the results that ebay does. EBAY sucks. JMJ -B Green 1500 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Hedin" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 1:16:24 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! Not a question of ethics from ebay's point of view. It's a question of loosing customers because of the customer's ethical point of view. >From the response of this subject on this list it sounds like alot of folks are not happy with ebay. That can't be a good thing for ebay's business. If we all loved ebay and thought they were making the effort to make the auctions proper then we probably would'nt care if they had the monopoly or even charged a little more. We just want the auctions to be fair and don't want want a "dirt bag" experience. Like the time I wanted a Thinkpad T30 and IBM ran out. B IBM told me to go on ebay. I find one and I place a bid. B After I won the auction and sent the money the seller indicated to me that he did not have the item. B WTF? B Selling things we do not have? After a sluggish response from ebay's customer service, this dirt bag ends up leaving me bad feedback! I still think the shill bidding is easily detectable by their servers and they should just implement it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Fornal Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! Dean, do you REALLY think that eBay has "ethics"?? These are the same jokers that are pressures everyone to use PayPal. Since they OWN PayPal, they get paid on both ends, by the buyer AND seller. They are just a legal scam. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 06:24:44 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 05:24:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Big Heal(e)y fire sale Message-ID: <768678.30940.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sad. Somebody rescue it: http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/1018246844.html Ron From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Feb 4 07:12:45 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:12:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <07b101c986d2$a7374080$1801010a@xp> This policy is in effect now! I just had my last experience with ebay and paypal. Never again! I sold an antique gas light fixture for a couple of hundred bucks. Ebay insisted that I only take paypal. When I asked why, they said because it was an 'electronic' item. I tried to tell them it wasn't but they wouldn't listen...but I digress. So anyway, I had no choice but to accept paypal. After the buyer paid, I tried to get paypal to send me a check. They refused because I only had a PO box listed and they claimed they couldn't send a check to the PO box. After many, many, hours trying to get someone on the phone that spoke English, I explained that they certainly didn't have trouble using the PO Box as the address tied to my credit card. They still refused and insisted that I send them a copy of my driver's license, a utility bill, and something else I can't remember now. I refused and eventually had to enter a bank account to get paid. I don't like anyone having my bank account...especially ebay or paypal and I'll be damned if I'm going to create a separate account at the bank just for them. As soon as I got my money, I removed the account, the credit card, then closed my account. In my opinion, I don't like doing business with any Internet company that doesn't give me a physical address and phone numbers where I can EASILY find them. Try finding a phone number for ebay or an address for paypal. In the process of all this, I came across www.paypalsucks.com Heard -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:59 PM To: Brad Fornal; Jeff Foster Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! > successful in most cases in convincing the seller to accept a money > order They have a new policy that will not allow payment other than PayPal. I think it goes into effect next month. I can't use PayPal anymore because I've been too good a customer. If you exceed $10,000 in purchases, they cut off your PayPal and insist you link them to your bank account. I refuse to do that, so I can't buy through PayPal, and I can't sell either. In another month, I won't even be able to buy with a money order. They need some competition, but I guess that's an out-dated concept. You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 07:52:18 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 08:52:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay/Paypal was Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <07b101c986d2$a7374080$1801010a@xp> References: <07b101c986d2$a7374080$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <89E14427-D3D1-4E4F-8A5D-36803870D7CD@comcast.net> You have no idea! For the registration to our annual SAAB Owners Convention we used an online service that used Paypal as payment. Paypal readily accepted over $ 40,000 in payment and when it came time to send us the money I was told that the most that we could take out of the account in one month was $ 200.00. After several days of talking to 4 different Paypal folks, each of whom screwed up the account even more thus limiting options I finally found someone who told me that *ANY* credit card assigned to the account would allow transfer. I had to put my personal CC on the account, transfer out all of the money over 4 days, there was still a limit of $ 10k IIRC, I took my CC off the account. Hate 'em Lester On Feb 4, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Heard wrote: > This policy is in effect now! I just had my last experience with > ebay and > paypal. Never again! I sold an antique gas light fixture for a > couple of > hundred bucks. Ebay insisted that I only take paypal. When I asked > why, > they said because it was an 'electronic' item. I tried to tell them > it > wasn't but they wouldn't listen...but I digress. So anyway, I had > no choice > but to accept paypal. After the buyer paid, I tried to get paypal > to send > me a check. They refused because I only had a PO box listed and they > claimed they couldn't send a check to the PO box. After many, many, > hours > trying to get someone on the phone that spoke English, I explained > that they > certainly didn't have trouble using the PO Box as the address tied > to my > credit card. They still refused and insisted that I send them a > copy of my > driver's license, a utility bill, and something else I can't > remember now. > I refused and eventually had to enter a bank account to get paid. I > don't > like anyone having my bank account...especially ebay or paypal and > I'll be > damned if I'm going to create a separate account at the bank just > for them. > > As soon as I got my money, I removed the account, the credit card, > then > closed my account. > > In my opinion, I don't like doing business with any Internet company > that > doesn't give me a physical address and phone numbers where I can > EASILY find > them. Try finding a phone number for ebay or an address for paypal. > > In the process of all this, I came across www.paypalsucks.com > > Heard From dwgwater at hotmail.com Wed Feb 4 08:12:30 2009 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:12:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <4CC8E55EFCF341A98CE8F67EAD75F554@JonPC> References: <4CC8E55EFCF341A98CE8F67EAD75F554@JonPC> Message-ID: The information you give Paypal, bank routing # and acct. # is printed on every check you write in special magnetic ink so it can be machine read. I'd be more concerned with what some people could do when you write them a check than I'd be with what Paypal could do. Dave> From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:20:42 -0800> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!!> > What you want to do is create a separate account and keep just a few bucks > in it and use that one only for paypal. You can still chose to use your CC > to pay for your winning and if you sell then transfer the money to your acc > and write yourself a check.> > > >> successful in most cases in convincing the seller to accept a money order> > They have a new policy that will not allow payment other than PayPal. I> > think it goes into effect next month. I can't use PayPal anymore because> > I've been too good a customer. If you exceed $10,000 in purchases, they > > cut> > off your PayPal and insist you link them to your bank account. I refuse to> > do that, so I can't buy through PayPal, and I can't sell either. In > > another> > month, I won't even be able to buy with a money order. They need some> > competition, but I guess that's an out-dated concept.> _______________________________________________> _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 4 08:18:37 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:18:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay/Paypal was Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <89E14427-D3D1-4E4F-8A5D-36803870D7CD@comcast.net> References: <07b101c986d2$a7374080$1801010a@xp> <89E14427-D3D1-4E4F-8A5D-36803870D7CD@comcast.net> Message-ID: <020420091518.689.4989B1CD00019A9E000002B122228869349B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog expounded: Here's my PayPal story: When I sell bones, old dog dishes, and leashes on ebay, I always use PayPal. I get paid right away and don't have to wait for checks to clear or money orders to arrive. Sure they take 2%-3%, but the sale is completed, finito. When I want my money, I order a withdrawl to my bank account and the money arrives in several days. I even use it to receive money for non-ebay sales, if the other dog or master agrees to cover the fees. It may not be a dog's life for everyone, but it works for me. -------------- Original message from Lester : -------------- > You have no idea! > > For the registration to our annual SAAB Owners Convention we used an > online service that used Paypal as payment. Paypal readily accepted > over $ 40,000 in payment and when it came time to send us the money I > was told that the most that we could take out of the account in one > month was $ 200.00. After several days of talking to 4 different > Paypal folks, each of whom screwed up the account even more thus > limiting options I finally found someone who told me that *ANY* credit > card assigned to the account would allow transfer. I had to put my > personal CC on the account, transfer out all of the money over 4 days, > there was still a limit of $ 10k IIRC, I took my CC off the account. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Feb 4 08:34:25 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 10:34:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: <7166EA1F-89EC-441A-8458-728E6A0725BD@phillymgclub.com> Is my mail getting to the list? AND DO NOT REPLY "TICKLE" That is OLD ;-) -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 08:51:56 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:51:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: <4CC8E55EFCF341A98CE8F67EAD75F554@JonPC> Message-ID: Let me add that I've been using Paypal for many years so I have mine connected to my checking account. Every time I try to pay with it now I have to navigate through windows telling methat I need to have a CC as the one that was on it has expired. I keep going until they let me pay by check. They are going to knock themselves out of the market if they aren't careful.. LESter On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:12 AM, David Groundwater wrote: > The information you give Paypal, bank routing # and acct. # is > printed on > every check you write in special magnetic ink so it can be machine > read. I'd > be more concerned with what some people could do when you write them > a check > than I'd be with what Paypal could do. > > Dave> From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: > Tue, 3 > Feb 2009 19:20:42 -0800> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!!> > > What you want to do is create a separate account and keep just a few > bucks in it and > use that one only for paypal. You can still chose to use your CC to > pay for > your winning and if you sell then transfer the money to your acc > and write > yourself a check. successful in most cases in convincing the seller > to > accept a money order They have a new policy that will not allow > payment > other than PayPal. I think it goes into effect next month. I can't use > PayPal anymore because I've been too good a customer. If you exceed > $10,000 > in purchases, they cut off your PayPal and insist you link them to > your > bank account. I refuse to do that, so I can't buy through PayPal, > and I > can't sell either. In another month, I won't even be able to buy > with a > money order. They need some competition, but I guess that's an out- > dated > concept.> From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Wed Feb 4 10:04:28 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:04:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: <2838e01c986ea$a3e9d650$0168010a@mail2world.com> Larry, Yes. Are you having the no-echo problem like I am? I still haven't figured it out, but I have activated the post confirmation at autox.com, so at least I know my posts go out... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Larry Macy [lmacy at phillymgclub.com] Sent: 2/4/2009 10:35:25 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Test Is my mail getting to the list? AND DO NOT REPLY "TICKLE" That is OLD ;-) -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Wed Feb 4 10:06:44 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:06:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! Message-ID: <17a8b01c986ea$f4eb2450$056a010a@mail2world.com> I think that's becaose PP requres a "back-up" funding source just incase the payment from your bank account "bounces". Sould be easy to update the expy date, no? -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Lester [oldsaabguy at comcast.net] Sent: 2/4/2009 10:52:56 AM To: Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! Let me add that I've been using Paypal for many years so I have mine connected to my checking account. Every time I try to pay with it now I have to navigate through windows telling methat I need to have a CC as the one that was on it has expired. I keep going until they let me pay by check. They are going to knock themselves out of the market if they aren't careful.. LESter On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:12 AM, David Groundwater wrote: > The information you give Paypal, bank routing # and acct. # is > printed on > every check you write in special magnetic ink so it can be machine > read. I'd > be more concerned with what some people could do when you write them > a check > than I'd be with what Paypal could do. > > Dave> From: jpaschke at bak.rr.com> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: > Tue, 3 > Feb 2009 19:20:42 -0800> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!!> > > What you want to do is create a separate account and keep just a few > bucks in it and > use that one only for paypal. You can still chose to use your CC to > pay for > your winning and if you sell then transfer the money to your acc > and write > yourself a check. successful in most cases in convincing the seller > to > accept a money order They have a new policy that will not allow > payment > other than PayPal. I think it goes into effect next month. I can't use > PayPal anymore because I've been too good a customer. If you exceed > $10,000 > in purchases, they cut off your PayPal and insist you link them to > your > bank account. I refuse to do that, so I can't buy through PayPal, > and I > can't sell either. In another month, I won't even be able to buy > with a > money order. They need some competition, but I guess that's an out- > dated > concept.> _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 10:12:02 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:12:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <7166EA1F-89EC-441A-8458-728E6A0725BD@phillymgclub.com> References: <7166EA1F-89EC-441A-8458-728E6A0725BD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <6657F87B-BA07-4217-BA34-26D4EF5CD378@comcast.net> ..eees Is that new enough? ;-) Le..uhh.. Anonymouse On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Larry Macy wrote: > Is my mail getting to the list? > > AND DO NOT REPLY "TICKLE" That is OLD ;-) > > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > > > "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've > never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 10:14:44 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:14:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Paypal was Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <17a8b01c986ea$f4eb2450$056a010a@mail2world.com> References: <17a8b01c986ea$f4eb2450$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: Yeah I can update it but that gives Paypal, notorious for being able to talk to a human, access to over $ 40k. That ain't gonna happen. I haven't had a bad transaction ever. All of this started when eBay bought Paypal.. Lester On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Chris King wrote: > I think that's becaose PP requres a "back-up" funding source just > incase the payment from your bank account "bounces". > > Sould be easy to update the expy date, no? > > -=Chris > > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > <-----Original Message-----> From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 4 10:47:02 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:47:02 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Paypal was Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: <17a8b01c986ea$f4eb2450$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <020420091747.9193.4989D496000BFCD1000023E922228869349B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: Unless something's changed in the last couple of years, the only $ PayPal can access is the amount in the PayPal account. -------------- Original message from Lester : -------------- > Yeah I can update it but that gives Paypal, notorious for being able > to talk to a human, access to over $ 40k. That ain't gonna happen. I > haven't had a bad transaction ever. All of this started when eBay > bought Paypal.. From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 11:04:54 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:04:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: <4CC8E55EFCF341A98CE8F67EAD75F554@JonPC> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902041004r374c6021v7c7e2fd5a25dff2d@mail.gmail.com> I use PayPal, too. HOWEVER, there are some things you should know. There are many horror stories out there about how PayPal seizes funds and/or holds funds. If someone pays you, gets the stuff, and files a dispute, guess what PayPal does? I have PP connected to my simple sole proprietor business account so they can't screw up my life if someone goes wacky. I don't keep funds in the PP account. I keep limited funds in the bank account that is PP connected. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 4 11:41:43 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:41:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <4CC8E55EFCF341A98CE8F67EAD75F554@JonPC> Message-ID: > What you want to do is create a separate account I tried that. They track your account for a couple of months. If there's not lots of activity, they won't take it. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 4 11:47:48 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:47:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Paypal was Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <020420091747.9193.4989D496000BFCD1000023E922228869349B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: > Unless something's changed in the last couple of years, the only $ PayPal can > access Yes, everything's changed in the last couple of years. If you have an older account, you were grandfathered through, but it's a whole new ballgame now. They want complete access to your entire life. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Wed Feb 4 11:56:56 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:56:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My Step Mothers Passing Message-ID: <6C122840-D2EB-40D9-B866-B8A2F89DF94C@phillymgclub.com> Friends, My Step Mother passed away Monday afternoon. About 6 months after my Father. She was like a mother to me for the better part of the last 18 years. Services will be held Thursday Feb 5 at 10:00 AM at St Anthony's Catholic Church Services will be handled by Newcomer Family Funeral Home 710 E 2nd St Casper, WY 82601 (307) 234-0234 Larry -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 13:05:28 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:05:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <7166EA1F-89EC-441A-8458-728E6A0725BD@phillymgclub.com> References: <7166EA1F-89EC-441A-8458-728E6A0725BD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902041205h77acf79aj4a02c3a341362906@mail.gmail.com> I got it : ) Lin On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Larry Macy wrote: > Is my mail getting to the list? > > AND DO NOT REPLY "TICKLE" That is OLD ;-) > > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > > > "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've > never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Feb 4 13:21:07 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:21:07 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! Message-ID: Which is what I do! In a message dated 04/02/2009 03:20:44 GMT Standard Time, jpaschke at bak.rr.com writes: What you want to do is create a separate account and keep just a few bucks in it and use that one only for paypal. You can still chose to use your CC to pay for your winning and if you sell then transfer the money to your acc and write yourself a check. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Feb 4 13:20:23 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:20:23 EST Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Computer sound card problem Message-ID: Hi list, Well the kid is pleased now the sound card is working. I think that it's possibly I originally used my motherboard disc for the install rather than hers thinking they look the same they are the same when in fact she has a newer motherboard than I have. She's pestering my now about layouts and stuff in Office 2007 but I can handle all those kinds of questions without any problems. Oh, it was Realtek and still produced some kind of error message at the end of the install. Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 03/02/2009 21:17:11 GMT Standard Time, pythias at pacifier.com writes: Hello WeslakeMonza1330, I just remembered... realtek is a very common sound chip for motherboards.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Feb 4 13:23:25 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:23:25 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: Despite the snow we have in England, yes. In a message dated 04/02/2009 15:53:50 GMT Standard Time, lmacy at phillymgclub.com writes: Is my mail getting to the list? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Feb 4 13:28:12 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:28:12 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Paypal was Holy SMOKES !!! Message-ID: I have a special credit card with a #350 limit that only ever gets used for Internet purchases (_www.aircraftspruce.com_ (http://www.aircraftspruce.com) . etc) that is linked to my Paypal account. I also have a special bank account that has a #1 in it that is also linked to the paypal account. This works ok for me and without it I simply wouldn't have been able to sell and ship Spridget silicone hoses outside of the UK (mandatory LBC content). I've bought some stuff off e-bay that I've been really pleased with even though I don't need a NOS Spridget diff carrier or NOS Spridget conrod. I've also bought some s/h stuff that I've been pleased with. I never manage to sell much but have sold crap I wouldn't give away to a charity shop that someone was very pleased to pay good money for. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 04/02/2009 17:42:17 GMT Standard Time, oldsaabguy at comcast.net writes: Yeah I can update it but that gives Paypal, notorious for being able to talk to a human, access to over $ 40k. That ain't gonna happen. I haven't had a bad transaction ever. All of this started when eBay bought Paypal.. Lester On Feb 4, 2009, at 11:06 AM, Chris King wrote: > I think that's becaose PP requres a "back-up" funding source just > incase the payment from your bank account "bounces". > > Sould be easy to update the expy date, no? > > -=Chris From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Feb 4 13:35:24 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:35:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Orlando for sale Message-ID: <084601c98708$1bdb1300$1801010a@xp> Not sure if this one is still available or not, but it does have a hard top. http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/987286618.html From bighealey at charter.net Wed Feb 4 13:36:59 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 12:36:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <6657F87B-BA07-4217-BA34-26D4EF5CD378@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20090204153659.AWOOB.42826.root@mp15> Goochie goochi goo !!! ---- Lester wrote: > ..eees Is that new enough? ;-) > > Le..uhh.. Anonymouse > > > On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:34 AM, Larry Macy wrote: > > > Is my mail getting to the list? > > > > AND DO NOT REPLY "TICKLE" That is OLD ;-) > > > > > > -- > > > > Larry Macy > > 78 Midget > > > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > Board Member at Large > > Philadelphia MG Club > > > > > > > > "I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've > > never actually known what the question is." - Douglas Adams > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Wed Feb 4 14:00:27 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:00:27 EST Subject: [Spridgets] HDMI leads - no LBC Message-ID: Hi list, I know I'm a bit late to get into this. I'm buying a new telly and a blu-ray this Saturday and neither comes with the HDMI lead. I've seen 1 metre cheap HDMI leads at #40 and quality half metre HDMI leads for #40. There are more than 36 inches in a metre for all you non-metric types and just under 20 inches for the half metre. I figure the half metre/20 inch lead will be long enough. So even at the current exchange rate and with postage, probably import duty and taxes too can anyone get HDMI leads for a lot less then #40? Or is this a realistic price to pay for a quality (not Rolls Royce quality) lead? Thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 14:27:29 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:27:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <7166EA1F-89EC-441A-8458-728E6A0725BD@phillymgclub.com> References: <7166EA1F-89EC-441A-8458-728E6A0725BD@phillymgclub.com> Message-ID: <498A0841.80401@comcast.net> Larry Macy wrote: > Is my mail getting to the list? > > AND DO NOT REPLY "TICKLE" That is OLD ;-) > > How about TEASE? Just Ed From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 14:34:44 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 13:34:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] HDMI leads - no LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <462507.89370.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> www.monoprice.com --- On Wed, 2/4/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com > Subject: [Spridgets] HDMI leads - no LBC > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 3:00 PM > Hi list, > > I know I'm a bit late to get into this. > > I'm buying a new telly and a blu-ray this Saturday and > neither comes with > the HDMI lead. > > I've seen 1 metre cheap HDMI leads at #40 and quality > half metre HDMI leads > for #40. > > There are more than 36 inches in a metre for all you > non-metric types and > just under 20 inches for the half metre. I figure the half > metre/20 inch > lead > will be long enough. > > So even at the current exchange rate and with postage, > probably import duty > and taxes too can anyone get HDMI leads for a lot less then > #40? Or is this > a realistic price to pay for a quality (not Rolls Royce > quality) lead? > > Thanks > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From heard at datatrontech.net Wed Feb 4 14:43:04 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:43:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] HDMI leads - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <085a01c98711$8fa09770$1801010a@xp> Try this site: http://www.bluejeanscable.com/ They have quality products without the monster price. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 4:00 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] HDMI leads - no LBC Hi list, I know I'm a bit late to get into this. I'm buying a new telly and a blu-ray this Saturday and neither comes with the HDMI lead. I've seen 1 metre cheap HDMI leads at #40 and quality half metre HDMI leads for #40. There are more than 36 inches in a metre for all you non-metric types and just under 20 inches for the half metre. I figure the half metre/20 inch lead will be long enough. So even at the current exchange rate and with postage, probably import duty and taxes too can anyone get HDMI leads for a lot less then #40? Or is this a realistic price to pay for a quality (not Rolls Royce quality) lead? Thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cmlove at knology.net Wed Feb 4 14:48:18 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:48:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] HDMI leads - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <002201c98712$4a88a500$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> http://www.2020consumer.com/ I have used this site and received good product on HDMI cables (6ft.) for less than $7.00 (US). Also, I have found good products on AMAZON, believe it or not for less that $10.00 (US). I have read artlcles where product tests have proven that if you pay more than $10-$15 per cable you are wasting your money. Good Luck Charles M. "Monty" Love Dynetics, Inc. 256-461-2780 256-337-5581 (Cell) 256-882-1543 (Home) ET Test The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:00 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] HDMI leads - no LBC Hi list, I know I'm a bit late to get into this. I'm buying a new telly and a blu-ray this Saturday and neither comes with the HDMI lead. I've seen 1 metre cheap HDMI leads at #40 and quality half metre HDMI leads for #40. There are more than 36 inches in a metre for all you non-metric types and just under 20 inches for the half metre. I figure the half metre/20 inch lead will be long enough. So even at the current exchange rate and with postage, probably import duty and taxes too can anyone get HDMI leads for a lot less then #40? Or is this a realistic price to pay for a quality (not Rolls Royce quality) lead? Thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 You are subscribed as cmlove at knology.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 4 14:50:48 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:50:48 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Orlando for sale In-Reply-To: <084601c98708$1bdb1300$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <020420092150.19193.498A0DB8000CEA4D00004AF922230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog speculated: I don't think that is a factory hardtop. -------------- Original message from "Heard" : -------------- > Not sure if this one is still available or not, but it does have a hard top. > > http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/987286618.html From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 17:31:23 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:31:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] eBay/Paypal was Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <020420091518.689.4989B1CD00019A9E000002B122228869349B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <892102.67422.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> tinydog yelped: > When I sell bones, old dog dishes, and leashes on ebay, I > always use PayPal. I get paid right away and don't have > to wait for checks to clear or money orders to arrive. Sure > they take 2%-3%, but the sale is completed, finito. Me too. From ridleymj at bis.on.ca Wed Feb 4 18:40:25 2009 From: ridleymj at bis.on.ca (Martyn Ridley) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:40:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Orlando for sale In-Reply-To: <020420092150.19193.498A0DB8000CEA4D00004AF922230706129B0A0 2D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <084601c98708$1bdb1300$1801010a@xp> <020420092150.19193.498A0DB8000CEA4D00004AF922230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <200902050140.n151eFXL023372@brantnet.kwic.com> If that's not a factory hardtop is the best 'fake' I've seen in a long time. Cheers, At 04:50 PM 04/02/2009, tinydog at snet.net wrote: >tinydog speculated: > >I don't think that is a factory hardtop. > -------------- Original message from "Heard" > : -------------- > > > > Not sure if this one is still available or not, but it does have > a hard top. > > > > http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/987286618.html >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as ridleymj at bis.on.ca > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 3827 (20090204) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 19:43:48 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:43:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racecar FS Message-ID: <903569.42298.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> No, not mine. Several have asked over the years about going racing - This car was a good deal at $5500 originally, if you have a job, you have no excuse at $4000. This car is ridiculously under-priced and worth it just for the spares. I've seen pics and have thought about buying this car and finding SOME club racing application, but I just don't have the space right now. NFI, etc. In Peter C.'s town. http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=9211 Ron From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Feb 4 19:45:25 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:45:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] HDMI leads - no LBC In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4466B7A5-06AB-4097-8A30-57EE0B36946E@mac.com> Try eforcitycorp.com 1.5 ft to 25 ft - - $4.5 to $25 Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 4, 2009, at 1:00 PM, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > Hi list, > > I know I'm a bit late to get into this. > > I'm buying a new telly and a blu-ray this Saturday and neither > comes with > the HDMI lead. > > I've seen 1 metre cheap HDMI leads at #40 and quality half metre > HDMI leads > for #40. > > There are more than 36 inches in a metre for all you non-metric > types and > just under 20 inches for the half metre. I figure the half metre/ > 20 inch > lead > will be long enough. > > So even at the current exchange rate and with postage, probably > import duty > and taxes too can anyone get HDMI leads for a lot less then #40? > Or is this > a realistic price to pay for a quality (not Rolls Royce quality) > lead? > > Thanks > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Feb 4 20:10:58 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:10:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] ebay Shill was Holy SMOKES !!! References: <435735012.2925241233752677608.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I find it interesting that you feel that shilling is acceptable behavior in an auction. I don't mean that negatively but, as you point out, there seems to be a tradition of this in the old fashoned auctions and some people take it for granted and toss it off as a "buyer beware" type of thing. A judge in New York feels differently. http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/shills.html So, knowing what you know now, would you shill bid if your aunt placed some of her antiques on ebay now? Never understood reserves. It's like a foriegn country trying to peg it's currency. You want to sell something and you have some fantasy as to what it's worth? Unfortunately your opinion as to what something is worth is meaningless. Put it up for a dollar and let the objective bidders decide what it's worth. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Groiss" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy SMOKES !!! > I'm not sure why everyone is so against "shill" bidding. I've been > selling on eBay since the site started and although I never bid on my > own auctions, I uses a reserve price when needed, I don't see the > problem with it. When I was younger I worked for my aunt who owned an > antique shop and every two weeks we would head to some local auction > houses to buy and sell. What you call "shill" bidding was very common > there and I did partake one or twice. The only real difference was > buyers could see who was bidding and the regulars would know who the > sellers were. So if a dealer/seller was consistently bidding up their > own items people would stop buying from them. EBay is a little > different. However, there are tools on the web that will allow you to > compare bidders across multiple auctions from a single seller. Some > of these tools you have to pay for while others are free. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 4 20:41:40 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 21:41:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racecar FS References: <903569.42298.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4BA59FBA218A40BEA99985DC53688CFF@Larry> Yeah, but how badly would I get spanked with that thing by you and Jeff? LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racecar FS No, not mine. Several have asked over the years about going racing - This car was a good deal at $5500 originally, if you have a job, you have no excuse at $4000. This car is ridiculously under-priced and worth it just for the spares. I've seen pics and have thought about buying this car and finding SOME club racing application, but I just don't have the space right now. NFI, etc. In Peter C.'s town. http://prodracing.com/prodcar/viewtopic.php?t=9211 Ron You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 21:15:18 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:15:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ebay Shill was Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: References: <435735012.2925241233752677608.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902042015l77038d4byc7694074b1608a4b@mail.gmail.com> I don't understand why everyone is appalled by ebay bid "sniping". I do it sometimes because it seems to be a good tactic but if I can't be online at the time the auction ends I just decide what I want to pay for the item and bid that much. I try not to get caught up in the idea of "winning" the bid or outbidding the competition. It isn't a competition, it is a guy selling something and people wanting to buy it. The other day I got a $300 modular helmet for $40 shipped. I bid $55 with one day to go and let it ride. Shilling has been around forever, too, even at live auctions. Get your brother-in-law or neighbor to bid. Most live auctions I've seen allow the owner of the item to bid on it. The owner has to pay the auction house their percentage if he is the high bidder but he doesn't have to sell the item. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Feb 4 21:33:40 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:33:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content Message-ID: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> Something for feeble minds to work on when you cant work on YOUR car. BTW.. I went for a gorgeous drive today in Iris. God, what a beautiful day for a drive. Sunny with a slight nip in the air AND I got a tip while stopped at a place on the location of a rolling bugeye shell that is sitting somewhere (I wont divulge) with a cardboard for sale sign taped on the bodyJ Tomorrow I will see what the body actually looks likehehehehe  BTW..Is it a good idea to drive Iris to go look at a possible steal on another??? Now on to the feeble mind part: What do these words have in common.?? 1. Banana 2. Dresser 3. Grammar 4. Potato 5. Revive 6. Uneven 7. Assess Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 8:24 AM From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Feb 4 21:47:29 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 22:47:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ebay Shill was Holy SMOKES !!! Message-ID: <00b001c9874c$d9c5c150$8d5143f0$@net> As far as reserve prices are they are fine with me because they represent what you interests in the item are. Might not be willing to sell EXCEPT for a sum above a certain dollar figure....THINK OPEC!! Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 8:24 AM From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Feb 4 21:59:19 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:59:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget racecar FS In-Reply-To: <4BA59FBA218A40BEA99985DC53688CFF@Larry> Message-ID: <469654.56387.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > From: Larry Daniels > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridget racecar FS > To: soavero at yahoo.com, "Spridgets" > Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 9:41 PM > Yeah, but how badly would I get spanked with that thing by > you and Jeff? Puhleaze - you're a ringer and I know it! While the car is more expensive than White Trash was, it is less than Jeff's cylinder head cost. Which means he'll go into his annual funk right around the 4th lap. Can it be 7 years with White Trash? Lord. Grasshopper From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Feb 4 22:44:38 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 21:44:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> References: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> Message-ID: <498A0C46.16788.1B1A1C3@kk7ss.verizon.net> They each have at least two of the same vowel and two of the same consonant ??? Kewpie Doll?? On 4 Feb 2009 at 22:33, Leo wrote: >> What do these words have in common.?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 23:17:15 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:17:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay/Paypal was Holy SMOKES !!! In-Reply-To: <892102.67422.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <020420091518.689.4989B1CD00019A9E000002B122228869349B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <892102.67422.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902042217u57be203cl1b742f09a9bebb39@mail.gmail.com> That reminds me. I have a bone to pick with you.... Hahahahaha! ED On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 6:31 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > tinydog yelped: > > > When I sell bones, old dog dishes, and leashes on ebay, I > > always use PayPal. I get paid right away and don't have > > to wait for checks to clear or money orders to arrive. Sure > > they take 2%-3%, but the sale is completed, finito. > > Me too. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 23:20:57 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:20:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> References: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902042220n5537313cwaef44aca5a48f7f@mail.gmail.com> I've mispelt them all when I was in school?? On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > Something for feeble minds to work on when you can t work on YOUR car. > BTW.. I went for a gorgeous drive today in Iris. God, what a beautiful day > for a drive. Sunny with a slight nip in the air AND I got a tip while > stopped at a place on the location of a rolling bugeye shell that is > sitting > somewhere (I wont divulge) with a cardboard for sale sign taped on the > bodyJ > Tomorrow I will see what the body actually looks like hehehehe BTW..Is it > a good idea to drive Iris to go look at a possible steal on another??? > > > > Now on to the feeble mind part: > > > > What do these words have in common.?? > > > > 1. Banana > > 2. Dresser > 3. Grammar > 4. Potato > 5. Revive > 6. Uneven > 7. Assess > > Leo > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 > 8:24 AM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From wbmcleod at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 00:04:10 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 00:04:10 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902042220n5537313cwaef44aca5a48f7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> <43840a7e0902042220n5537313cwaef44aca5a48f7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4303C27E-0991-455F-A8B9-65A182BA698D@gmail.com> More than one set of double letters. Bill >> >> What do these words have in common.?? >> >> >> >> 1. Banana >> >> 2. Dresser >> 3. Grammar >> 4. Potato >> 5. Revive >> 6. Uneven >> 7. Assess >> >> Leo From pelliott at innercite.com Thu Feb 5 00:10:56 2009 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 23:10:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> References: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> Message-ID: <027601c98760$e522e7d0$af68b770$@com> What do these words have in common? 1. Banana 2. Dresser 3. Grammar 4. Potato 5. Revive 6. Uneven 7. Assess Leo They're all in a list that you sent to the list?? They're all composed of combinations of two vowels and two constants. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 00:18:17 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 01:18:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <027601c98760$e522e7d0$af68b770$@com> References: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> <027601c98760$e522e7d0$af68b770$@com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902042318q619bc580l8358bd2129567c7f@mail.gmail.com> Use them in a sentence?? Grampa said, "Assess the uneven banana in the dresser and revive it with a potato, Grammar." Also... These are all words that Martians find difficult to pronounce. ED On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Patrick Elliott wrote: > What do these words have in common? > > 1. Banana > 2. Dresser > 3. Grammar > 4. Potato > 5. Revive > 6. Uneven > 7. Assess > > Leo > > > > They're all in a list that you sent to the list?? > > They're all composed of combinations of two vowels and two constants. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 5 06:01:09 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:01:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ebay Shill was Holy SMOKES !!! References: <435735012.2925241233752677608.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Accepting that shill bidding happens, condoning its use, and participating are three very different concepts. Only the first one is acceptable to me and, I imagine, to the rest of the List (I have such high opinions of youse guys). I agree about reserves. OTOH, if you start the bidding at $1, the bidding frenzy in the last 30 seconds of the "auction" frequently is inadequate to get the price to where the seller needs it to be. AFAIAC, set the opening bid high enough that you bypass the meaningless bids from people who are hoping no one else noticed this item and your final price will be higher. I agree that there is little point in setting a reserve price, they simply annoy a large number of potential bidders. Please note that, although we talk about bidders and "auctions", this really is NOT an auction. It could be... IF ebay wanted it to be. Imagine if the auction did not close until the scheduled time and then only AFTER the highest bid had been unanswered for 15 minutes. THAT could be considered an auction. It wouls also eliminate the sniping. Ebay would make more money, sellers would make more money. Cheapskates with sniping programs might look for their thrills elsewhere... David Lieb From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu Feb 5 06:13:54 2009 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:13:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC Things that are difficult to say Message-ID: <200902051314.n15DE7Ki000940@mail.usimperio.com> THINGS THAT ARE DIFFICULT TO SAY WHEN DRUNK: 1. Innovative 2. Preliminary 3. Proliferation 4. Cinnamon THINGS THAT ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY WHEN DRUNK: 1. Specificity 2. Anti-constitutionalistically 3. Passive-aggressive disorder 4. Transubstantiate THINGS THAT ARE DOWNRIGHT IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY WHEN DRUNK: 1. No thanks, I'm married. 2. Nope, no more booze for me! 3. Sorry, but you're not really my type. 4. Taco Bell ? No thanks, I'm not hungry. 5. Good evening, officer. Isn't it lovely out tonight? 6. Oh, I couldn't! No one wants to hear me sing karaoke. 7. I'm not interested in fighting you. 8. Thank you, but I won't make any attempt to dance, I have no coordination. I'd hate to look like a fool! 9. Where is the nearest bathroom? I refuse to pee in this parking lot or on the side of the road. 10. I must be going home now, as I have to work in the morning. From doug_altman at yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 06:24:05 2009 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 05:24:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Orlando for sale References: <084601c98708$1bdb1300$1801010a@xp> <020420092150.19193.498A0DB8000CEA4D00004AF922230706129B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <200902050140.n151eFXL023372@brantnet.kwic.com> Message-ID: <254029.30023.qm@web63507.mail.re1.yahoo.com> It looks like/could be an aftermarket top that Parrish Plastics used to make for the Bugeyes. They are no longer in business. It had no clamps on the outside front of the top but rather turnbuckles that were on the inside corners of the top that went down to the lip on the dashboard. It had small metal medallions with their company logo on the outside of the top on the doglegs just in front of the rear window which anchored clamps on the inside that attached to the ragtop bow support slots. I think I can see one there in the pictures. It also had a rather large rear window. ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: tinydog at snet.net; Spridgets Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 8:40:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Orlando for sale At 04:50 PM 04/02/2009, tinydog at snet.net wrote: >tinydog speculated: > >I don't think that is a factory hardtop. > -------------- Original message from "Heard" > : -------------- > > > > Not sure if this one is still available or not, but it does have > a hard top. > > > > http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/987286618.html If that's not a factory hardtop is the best 'fake' I've seen in a long time. Cheers, From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Feb 5 06:44:03 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:44:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902042318q619bc580l8358bd2129567c7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <00ae01c9874a$eca31450$c5e93cf0$@net> <027601c98760$e522e7d0$af68b770$@com> <43840a7e0902042318q619bc580l8358bd2129567c7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <001a01c98797$cf8681c0$6e938540$@net> Sheesh....really feeble minds. How did all of you put your cars together (oh yea..with a manual) LOL.... .All of the words have the same capability... Move the first letter to the back of the word and spell it backwards and you have the same word you started with...Sheesh ROFL... The sentence one was a GREAT reply..LOL Leo > What do these words have in common? > > 1. Banana > 2. Dresser > 3. Grammar > 4. Potato > 5. Revive > 6. Uneven > 7. Assess > > Leo > > > > They're all in a list that you sent to the list?? > > They're all composed of combinations of two vowels and two constants. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 8:24 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.17/1934 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 8:24 AM From rbastedo at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 07:21:55 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 06:21:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] HDMI leads - no LBC Message-ID: I've also used both monoprice and eforcity, neither one has ever let me down and I've gotten excellent products at a reasonable price. I had a 12 ft cable from Monster and a 12 ft cable from Monoprice. The Monoprice cable was thicker, but they both worked the same. I sold the Monster cable on ebay. IIRC the Monster was something north of $100 while the Monoprice cable was around $25. Rick Bastedo From jimndi at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 5 08:16:23 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Founier) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:16:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] list test Message-ID: <3FF440AD44134983ADD925B42698F7E6@MAINCOMPUTER> another test From jimndi at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 5 08:21:28 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Founier) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:21:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal Message-ID: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> so whats the beef with Paypal? I've been buying spridget stuff for awhile, now, Its convenient and quick. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 08:29:56 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:29:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902050729m671c4172g4d3f82a6b393a86d@mail.gmail.com> Just be careful. If you get into a deal with someone unscrupulous, you could have more trouble than you want. Don't tie PayPal to your main bank account. You've been warned. I guess "You've been warned " sounds too ominous , just be careful. Cheers, Derf I use PayPal all the time, in spite of their anti-gun policies. From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Feb 5 08:50:30 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:50:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <08e001c987a9$792265d0$1801010a@xp> There is no issue if you are buying. It is selling and trying to get your money in a timely fashion. They don't want to pay you. Sometimes at all, sometimes for 21 days or more. They don't pay interest. They don't allow you to talk to any Americans. It is a large scale, possibly illegal scam. Oh yeah, did I mention I don't like them. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Founier Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:21 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal so whats the beef with Paypal? I've been buying spridget stuff for awhile, now, Its convenient and quick. You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 09:04:08 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 10:04:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <08e001c987a9$792265d0$1801010a@xp> References: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> <08e001c987a9$792265d0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902050804l32214ed6mc4cbe097834d341b@mail.gmail.com> I think they started as a quasi-scam by facilitating money transfers but keeping the funds for a day or two and investing/loaning the funds overnight. That's why it takes a day or two to dump funds into your bank account. Funny how that works, eh? Withdrawals FROM your account are instant, but deposits TO your account take days. I still use PayPal, but I keep my eye on them and never let them have access to very much money. From dwramsey at att.net Thu Feb 5 09:42:48 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:42:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902050729m671c4172g4d3f82a6b393a86d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090205164312.9566E1878BD@autox.team.net> That's ok because I use guns all the time, in spite of their anti-PayPal policies. So we cancel each other out. Crash I use PayPal all the time, in spite of their anti-gun policies. From jimndi at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 5 09:48:38 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Founier) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:48:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Guns paypal Message-ID: <9C42BCEDCC264EBD818BE9936CD42D24@MAINCOMPUTER> I purchased a set of 6 shooters with holsters for my Grandson's Haloween costume on E-bay using PayPal......No problem! From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 09:53:32 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:53:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <027601c98760$e522e7d0$af68b770$@com> Message-ID: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Put the first letter at the end and it would be the same word as forwards. --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Patrick Elliott wrote: > From: Patrick Elliott > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content > To: "'Leo'" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>, "'Spridgets'" > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 1:10 AM > What do these words have in common? > > 1. Banana > 2. Dresser > 3. Grammar > 4. Potato > 5. Revive > 6. Uneven > 7. Assess > > Leo > > > > They're all in a list that you sent to the list?? > > They're all composed of combinations of two vowels and > two constants. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 09:58:30 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 08:58:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content) In-Reply-To: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'll never forget my brother's street address - 1275 Noxon Road. 1275 because of the engine, and NOXON is the same word upside down AND backwards. Mom! Ooops, I mean, Wow! Ron --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Ron Soave wrote: > From: Ron Soave > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content > To: "'Leo'" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>, "'Spridgets'" , "Patrick Elliott" > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 10:53 AM > Put the first letter at the end and it would be the same > word as forwards. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 5 10:34:54 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:34:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content) References: <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > I'll never forget my brother's street address - 1275 Noxon Road. 1275 > because of the engine, and NOXON is the same word upside down AND > backwards. Mind you, a 1275 that noxon might not be all that memorable. I like mine just fine without the knocks. ED From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 10:48:34 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:48:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> Palindrome!! Sure! I remember him! All dressed in black with the rooks head on his holster.... Oh! Wait... Or is that that concert hall in London, England? I can never keep those two straight... Cheers Mij On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > I'll never forget my brother's street address - 1275 Noxon Road. 1275 > because of the engine, and NOXON is the same word upside down AND backwards. > > Mom! Ooops, I mean, Wow! > > Ron > > --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Ron Soave wrote: > > > From: Ron Soave > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content > > To: "'Leo'" <60bugeye at cebridge.net>, "'Spridgets'" < > spridgets at autox.team.net>, "Patrick Elliott" > > Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 10:53 AM > > Put the first letter at the end and it would be the same > > word as forwards. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 10:53:25 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:53:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Ok, how many here got that reference?? Lester .. I mean I did just figured you guys were too young.. On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Palindrome!! Sure! I remember him! All dressed in black with the > rooks > head on his holster.... > > Oh! Wait... Or is that that concert hall in London, England? I > can never > keep those two straight... > > Cheers > Mij > Jim > "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong > enough > to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson > ________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Feb 5 10:53:54 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 09:53:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <554927.81258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > Oh! Wait... Or is that that concert hall in London, > England? I can never > keep those two straight... Jim, People do sometimes get confused. A Palin-drome is when you can see Aissur from your house. Ron From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 10:59:05 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:59:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC conten In-Reply-To: <554927.81258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> <554927.81258.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902050959n4ab43469ue00b2dd267f715ef@mail.gmail.com> You sure its not the airport the Alaska governor flies out of? Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > > Oh! Wait... Or is that that concert hall in London, > > England? I can never > > keep those two straight... > > Jim, > > People do sometimes get confused. A Palin-drome is when you can see Aissur > from your house. From cciaffone at verizon.net Thu Feb 5 11:13:56 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:13:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net> As in: "Palindrome, Palindrome, where do you roam? Palindrome, Palindrome, far far from home." chuck Jim Johnson wrote: > Palindrome!! Sure! I remember him! All dressed in black with the rooks > head on his holster.... > > Oh! Wait... Or is that that concert hall in London, England? I can never > keep those two straight... [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 02/04/09 16:35:00 From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 11:25:08 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:25:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net> References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> <498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> Paladin? racecar? rotator? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 5 11:27:37 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:27:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com><498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net> <5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Paladin? > > racecar? > rotator? A man, a plan, a canal, Panama! From thcollin at mtu.edu Thu Feb 5 11:31:36 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:31:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WWII and LBC Message-ID: <799knl$5hhnae@email.mtu.edu> I mentioned my search for information about WWII a few days ago. I came across an interesting WWII site with some LBC content I though I would share. During WWII the US Army was in Brisbane Australia. When they left they filled an old quarry with "war remains" - guns, cannons, planes, bombs, etc. Then the Ausies contributed their junk over the years. A guy obtained permission to drain the quarry and salvage what he found. Included with the military planes (US and Jap.) he found a "Mini Cooper S (that) spent 10 days on the road... and nearly 30 years under water" and a 1937 Wolsely. There's even some poor quality video of some of the salvage including the Mini. The Mini is remarkably straight considering its history. Interesting pics and video on this site. See: http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/quarry.htm Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 5 11:33:55 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:33:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com><498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net><5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Paladin? > > racecar? > rotator? A man, a plan, a canal, Panama! _______________________________________________ How long until springtime? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 5 11:39:42 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:39:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com><498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net><5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1D887E4C52FB45A6B92827241BF5EFA1@NilesAD.von.gov> > A man, a plan, a canal, Panama! > _______________________________________________ > > > How long until springtime? Larry, I think it is another three months up by you. From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Feb 5 11:57:28 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 10:57:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com>, Message-ID: <498AC618.6356.C9A528@kk7ss.verizon.net> "Have Gun, Will Travel" good actor, nice scenery, poor plots On 5 Feb 2009 at 11:53, Lester wrote: >> Ok, how many here got that reference?? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 11:57:43 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 12:57:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] WWII and LBC In-Reply-To: <799knl$5hhnae@email.mtu.edu> References: <799knl$5hhnae@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902051057j69599cb4g11a52d37f0e1ec2c@mail.gmail.com> You should read some Stephen Ambrose stuff. It is good stuff, plagiarism and all. When I saw the beginning of "Saving Private Ryan" I knew I had read all about the beach storming portrayed in the film. There is also some amazing stuff on Audie Murphy, who, after heroic action in WWII, played himself in the movie about the action. Also, mostly unrelated, is the history of N.B. Forrest, who, while accused of ties with the KKK and extreme racial bias, was quite the interesting man of character. He actually tried to have the KKK disbanded and made public statements of racial equality after the Civil War. From peter at nosimport.com Thu Feb 5 12:05:16 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:05:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.co m> References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> <498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net> <5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200902051105344.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Fred? At 12:25 PM 2/5/2009, derf wrote: >Paladin? > >racecar? >rotator? From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Feb 5 12:07:18 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:07:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? Message-ID: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> I listed an item on Craigs list the other day. This guy emails me and want to know if it is still available. I email back that it is. Then this: "I am very glad that I heard back from you in such a timely manner. I will so much appreciate it if you can have the advert taken down from C.L I don't mind adding an extra $50 for you to do that so that I can be rest assured that the item is in hand. I wouldn't be able to come over for the check up due to my tight schedule but my mover will be coming over for the pick up once payment issued has been clarified. I will be paying via certified bank check and I will like to know if the payment method is acceptable by you, huh? If it's do email me your Full Name,Physical Address not Postal address, Zip code and phone number for the mailing of the check for payment Regards, Daryl." I'm seriously thinking about letting him come and pick it up so I can beat the sh... out his 'mover' when he gets here. draeH (just trying to stay up on the palindrome thread) From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 12:23:42 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:23:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902051123p242a9a3ft661ba270aaca2d76@mail.gmail.com> Yes, any email that asks about "the item" is a scam. Delete and ignore it. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 12:25:38 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:25:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902051125q74e62dfyed0be09a2be0458e@mail.gmail.com> He just wants your personal information. There is no "mover". He doesn't want your "item". He is Nigerian Prince. From tinydog at snet.net Thu Feb 5 12:26:15 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:26:15 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <020520091926.25029.498B3D57000B4827000061C522193122529B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog guesses: No, this is not a scam. It is common practice in the United States to pay a fee to a seller to cancel their advertisement. It is also common practice to accept payment in forms other than cash and release your item for sale to the "buyer". These rules and practices didn't apply before the advent of the internet, but now anyone with a computer or access to the World Wide Web can be trusted. I even show my Social Security Number on my MySpace page. Good Luck with your sale! -------------- Original message from "Heard" : -------------- > I listed an item on Craigs list the other day. This guy emails me and want > to know if it is still available. I email back that it is. Then this: > > "I am very glad that I heard back from you in such a timely manner. I will > so much appreciate it if you can have the advert taken down from C.L I don't > mind adding an extra $50 for you to do that so that I can be rest assured > that the item is in hand. > > I wouldn't be able to come over for the check up due to my tight schedule > but my mover will be coming over for the pick up once payment issued has > been clarified. I will be paying via certified bank check and I will like to > know if the payment method is acceptable by you, huh? If it's do email me > your Full Name,Physical Address not Postal address, Zip code and phone > number for the mailing of the check for payment Regards, Daryl." > > I'm seriously thinking about letting him come and pick it up so I can beat > the sh... out his 'mover' when he gets here. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 12:28:23 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:28:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <020520091926.25029.498B3D57000B4827000061C522193122529B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> <020520091926.25029.498B3D57000B4827000061C522193122529B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: Yeah, but dogs having a social security number isn't a big thing. Hell, does anyone remember when Buck Bundy (Al's dog) got a CC app on Married With Children? On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM, wrote: > tinydog guesses: > > No, this is not a scam. It is common practice in the United States to pay a > fee to a seller to cancel their advertisement. > > It is also common practice to accept payment in forms other than cash and > release your item for sale to the "buyer". > > These rules and practices didn't apply before the advent of the internet, > but now anyone with a computer or access to the World Wide Web can be > trusted. > > I even show my Social Security Number on my MySpace page. > > Good Luck with your sale! > > -------------- Original message from "Heard" : > -------------- > > > > I listed an item on Craigs list the other day. This guy emails me and > want > > to know if it is still available. I email back that it is. Then this: > > > > "I am very glad that I heard back from you in such a timely manner. I > will > > so much appreciate it if you can have the advert taken down from C.L I > don't > > mind adding an extra $50 for you to do that so that I can be rest assured > > that the item is in hand. > > > > I wouldn't be able to come over for the check up due to my tight schedule > > but my mover will be coming over for the pick up once payment issued has > > been clarified. I will be paying via certified bank check and I will like > to > > know if the payment method is acceptable by you, huh? If it's do email me > > your Full Name,Physical Address not Postal address, Zip code and phone > > number for the mailing of the check for payment Regards, Daryl." > > > > I'm seriously thinking about letting him come and pick it up so I can > beat > > the sh... out his 'mover' when he gets here. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tinydog at snet.net Thu Feb 5 12:32:06 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:32:06 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> <020520091926.25029.498B3D57000B4827000061C522193122529B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <020520091932.12377.498B3EB6000B253D0000305922193122529B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: I have a Digger's Club Card and also a card from PetCo. -------------- Original message from Brad Fornal : -------------- Yeah, but dogs having a social security number isn't a big thing. Hell, does anyone remember when Buck Bundy (Al's dog) got a CC app on Married With Children? On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM, wrote: tinydog guesses: From heard at datatrontech.net Thu Feb 5 12:45:02 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:45:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp><020520091926.25029.498B3D57000B4827000061C522193122529B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <094601c987ca$3c968210$1801010a@xp> Back in the 70's, my good friend had a bassett hound named Moses. He had his phone number listed as Moses Bassett. Makes it easy to spot the solicitors. He had a lot of fun with the junk mail also. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: tinydog at snet.net Cc: Scammers Chat Room Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? Yeah, but dogs having a social security number isn't a big thing. Hell, does anyone remember when Buck Bundy (Al's dog) got a CC app on Married With Children? On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM, wrote: > tinydog guesses: > > No, this is not a scam. It is common practice in the United States to > pay a fee to a seller to cancel their advertisement. > > It is also common practice to accept payment in forms other than cash > and release your item for sale to the "buyer". > > These rules and practices didn't apply before the advent of the > internet, but now anyone with a computer or access to the World Wide > Web can be trusted. > > I even show my Social Security Number on my MySpace page. > > Good Luck with your sale! > > -------------- Original message from "Heard" : > -------------- > > > > I listed an item on Craigs list the other day. This guy emails me > > and > want > > to know if it is still available. I email back that it is. Then this: > > > > "I am very glad that I heard back from you in such a timely manner. > > I > will > > so much appreciate it if you can have the advert taken down from C.L > > I > don't > > mind adding an extra $50 for you to do that so that I can be rest > > assured that the item is in hand. > > > > I wouldn't be able to come over for the check up due to my tight > > schedule but my mover will be coming over for the pick up once > > payment issued has been clarified. I will be paying via certified > > bank check and I will like > to > > know if the payment method is acceptable by you, huh? If it's do > > email me your Full Name,Physical Address not Postal address, Zip > > code and phone number for the mailing of the check for payment Regards, Daryl." > > > > I'm seriously thinking about letting him come and pick it up so I > > can > beat > > the sh... out his 'mover' when he gets here. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad You are subscribed as heard at datatrontech.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 13:40:20 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:40:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902050729m671c4172g4d3f82a6b393a86d@mail.gmail.com> References: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> <5f00d9910902050729m671c4172g4d3f82a6b393a86d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <498B4EB4.6050707@comcast.net> derf wrote: > Just be careful. If you get into a deal with someone unscrupulous, > you could have more trouble than you want. > > My son sold goods on Ebay, was paid via paypal like usual. Buyer got the goods and left + feedback. 3 weeks later buyer says there were no goods in the box, bitched to Paypal and paypal took the money out of my son's account. My son had a tracking number and a signature for the goods. The buyer was just trying to scam the seller. It took a week or so but my son did get his money back and promptly canceled his paypal account. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 5 13:45:13 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:45:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Ok, how many here got that reference?? Yeah, I'm old. From peter at nosimport.com Thu Feb 5 13:46:23 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:46:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <498B4EB4.6050707@comcast.net> References: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> <5f00d9910902050729m671c4172g4d3f82a6b393a86d@mail.gmail.com> <498B4EB4.6050707@comcast.net> Message-ID: <200902051246391.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 02:40 PM 2/5/2009, Frank Clarici wrote: >derf wrote: >>Just be careful. If you get into a deal with someone unscrupulous, >>you could have more trouble than you want. >> >> >My son sold goods on Ebay, was paid via paypal like usual. >Buyer got the goods and left + feedback. >3 weeks later buyer says there were no goods in the box, bitched to >Paypal and paypal took the money out of my son's account. >My son had a tracking number and a signature for the goods. The >buyer was just trying to scam the seller. >It took a week or so but my son did get his money back and promptly >canceled his paypal account. > > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ ============ But honestly, that's true of any credit card sale as well. Customer is always right, just sometimes unscrupulous. Peter C From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 13:50:45 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 15:50:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902051125q74e62dfyed0be09a2be0458e@mail.gmail.com> References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> <5f00d9910902051125q74e62dfyed0be09a2be0458e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <498B5125.8090702@comcast.net> derf wrote: > He just wants your personal information. There is no "mover". > He doesn't want your "item". > He is Nigerian Prince. > > That Prince is giving me his father's millions. He told me so, would a prince lie? Nah, I just sent him $5000 for the processing fees. So the money is coming in cash, in boxes in a Fed-EX truck but the truck ran out of gas so I wire transfered $100 so the Fed Ex truck can fill up and bring my cash to me. How can you say it's a scam? A prince with a king for a father who owned some weird ass oil company that I couldn't find on Google and who had all his millions in some never heard of bank would never lie. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 13:48:24 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:48:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38EDB948-7CE7-46C6-8681-25301B784274@comcast.net> .. ya know, now that it's been brought up, what did he do with the other half of it? Leave it at home? Lester On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> Ok, how many here got that reference?? > Yeah, I'm old. From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 14:37:17 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 15:37:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <200902051246391.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> <5f00d9910902050729m671c4172g4d3f82a6b393a86d@mail.gmail.com> <498B4EB4.6050707@comcast.net> <200902051246391.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com> > But honestly, that's true of any credit card sale as well. Customer is > always right, just sometimes unscrupulous. > > Peter C > Yes, but CC companies don't have hooks in your personal bank account. Your business account, yes, but not your grocery money, right? From d.swanson at earthlink.net Thu Feb 5 14:39:44 2009 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:39:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Judson 1275 Message-ID: <486B1ECE30C441C1B751349ED4C0A493@HomeComputer> Raleigh NC Craigslist has a 1275 (bored to 1500?) with a Judson supercharger? http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1015326883.html From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 15:10:16 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:10:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> <5f00d9910902050729m671c4172g4d3f82a6b393a86d@mail.gmail.com> <498B4EB4.6050707@comcast.net> <200902051246391.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902051410m6134c634nf1bb9fad87e5a95a@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:37 PM, derf wrote: > Yes, but CC companies don't have hooks in your personal bank account. > Your business account, yes, but not your grocery money, right? They have whatever access you give them. I use auto bill pay for one of my cards so they not only have my account number but permission to withdraw my monthly payment. Whats the diff between that and PayPal? -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From dwgwater at hotmail.com Thu Feb 5 15:16:40 2009 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:16:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <200902051105344.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> <498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net> <5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> <200902051105344.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: The palindrome of Bolton would be Notlob. > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 13:05:16 -0600> To: spridgets at autox.team.net> From: peter at nosimport.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content> > Fred?> > At 12:25 PM 2/5/2009, derf wrote:> >Paladin?> >> >racecar?> >rotator?> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as dwgwater at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 5 15:25:09 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:25:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com><498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net><5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> <200902051105344.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <790DA3DA98C64493BF6E09573265EA65@NilesAD.von.gov> > The palindrome of Bolton would be Notlob. I thought was only when your Norwegian Blue dies... or is it when your name is Arthur Wensleydale? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 15:30:26 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:30:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: <790DA3DA98C64493BF6E09573265EA65@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com><498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net><5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> <200902051105344.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <790DA3DA98C64493BF6E09573265EA65@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: The ONLY reason he was on the perch is because he had been nailed there! On Feb 5, 2009, at 4:25 PM, David Lieb wrote: >> The palindrome of Bolton would be Notlob. > > I thought was only when your Norwegian Blue dies... or is it when > your name is Arthur Wensleydale? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html From twobees at sprynet.com Thu Feb 5 15:41:08 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:41:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod Ends - Spridget or ??? Message-ID: <003e01c987e2$d6f1f6b0$6401a8c0@normoffice> Wondering if anyone can help me identify the tie rod ends on my Turner. Turner used parts from a number of British cars. Mine is a 1959 & is mostly Sprite-based. BUT, I have found a number of parts that are from other BC's. The ends on this car are 4-inches from the end of the threaded (9/16") female section/arm that goes onto the tie-rod, to the outer part of the "knuckle." And, 3-inches from the base of the knuckle (without the grease fitting) to the tip of the threaded end that goes through the steering arm. The section that goes onto the tie-rod kicks up by 1/8" before becoming horizontal. It has the following number cast into the kick-up "arm." J5906(? or 8, or B?)9S SOFI-4. Also 3 circles stamped into the base around the grease fitting. The taper into the steering arm tapers from 0.514" to 0.565" Turner site says: BLMC part no. 88G414. What could these ends be from? Any help will be appreciated. Norm Sippel '59 Turner Mk.1, 948cc From dwgwater at hotmail.com Thu Feb 5 15:47:04 2009 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:47:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com><498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net><5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> <200902051105344.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <790DA3DA98C64493BF6E09573265EA65@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: Mate, this bird wouldn't "voom" if you put four million volts through it! 'E's bleedin' demised!> From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net> To: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:30:26 -0600> CC: spridgets at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content> > The ONLY reason he was on the perch is because he had been nailed > there!> > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 4:25 PM, David Lieb wrote:> > >> The palindrome of Bolton would be Notlob.> >> > I thought was only when your Norwegian Blue dies... or is it when > > your name is Arthur Wensleydale? > > _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as dwgwater at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Feb 5 15:50:20 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:50:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New truck is LEGAL! Message-ID: <189779879050407A8317C0189118EAA4@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> The 1959 Morris pickup I got after I got back from LotO got its CA license today. The inspector had no problems with the numbers, didn't ask any tough questions and gave me my plate and sticker. Unfortunately, he also insisted on keeping the Heritage certificate as some sort of "pink slip". I explained to him that anyone in the country could pay the same $$ and get a copy of the certificate with my info on it and that it was NOT any sort of legal document. After quite a bit of arguing, I had to leave with the plate and tag and he kept the certificate. DO NOT BRING YOUR HERITAGE CERTIFICATE to the CA DMV. Generous soul that he was, he gave me a xerox of it. Thanks loads you bureaucratic drone! I fought a year to get permission to use my black/yellow plates on the Sprite, I suppose its back into the trenches to get back my Heritage certificate. Freaking pencil pushers!!!!! He also told me that my little toy is a commercial vehicle because of its flatbed and would need a weight certificate. It took half the morning to find a place that could weigh it and issue a DMV-acceptable certificate. (1500lbs, before you ask) So I guess that I'm now a gen-u-ine trucker. Gotta get me some of those chrome naked babe mudflaps. All things considered, to take a vehicle in with no paperwork but a BMIHT certificate and a smile, and leave with a valid CA license for a grand total of $125 in fees is a pretty good day. When I finish the wood for the stake-side flatbed in a week or two I'll post the final pictures. As I was leaving the DMV a guy rushed up and told me his problems with his dad's 1957 Morris Minor convertible. Seems he's desperate to get original Morris wheels for it and get rid of the "aftermarket mag wheels on it now". I told him I could certainly get him a set and that I'd be happy to trade for those nasty old mags on it now. He said that would be great. Guess who is going to get a set of Minilites for the cost of 4 old Moggie wheels? (insert fiendish giggle) Some days you eat the bear................ Glen Byrns From peter at nosimport.com Thu Feb 5 15:51:51 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:51:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Tie Rod Ends - Spridget or ??? In-Reply-To: <003e01c987e2$d6f1f6b0$6401a8c0@normoffice> References: <003e01c987e2$d6f1f6b0$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: <200902051451281.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> 88G414 IS for the Spridgets up to the Triumph rack in mid 72 Peter C == At 04:41 PM 2/5/2009, Norm 2Bs wrote: >Wondering if anyone can help me identify the tie rod ends on my Turner. > >Turner used parts from a number of British cars. Mine is a 1959 & is mostly >Sprite-based. BUT, I have found a number of parts that are from other BC's. > > >The ends on this car are 4-inches from the end of the threaded (9/16") >female section/arm that goes onto the tie-rod, to the outer part of the >"knuckle." And, 3-inches from the base of the knuckle (without the grease >fitting) to the tip of the threaded end that goes through the steering arm. >The section that goes onto the tie-rod kicks up by 1/8" before becoming >horizontal. > >It has the following number cast into the kick-up "arm." J5906(? or 8, or >B?)9S SOFI-4. Also 3 circles stamped into the base around the grease >fitting. > >The taper into the steering arm tapers from 0.514" to 0.565" > >Turner site says: BLMC part no. 88G414. > >What could these ends be from? > >Any help will be appreciated. > >Norm Sippel >'59 Turner Mk.1, 948cc From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 16:30:33 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:30:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] I have seen it all now Message-ID: <498B7699.9010602@comcast.net> *Not bad for under $17 shipped. http://preview.tinyurl.com/b5as5p* -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From shop at justbrits.com Thu Feb 5 16:56:04 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:56:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I have seen it all now In-Reply-To: <498B7699.9010602@comcast.net> Message-ID: <<*Not bad for under $17 shipped.>> ONLY $15.66 to me, Frank. Want me to bid on them for YOU???? LMAO ! From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 17:03:09 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:03:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] I have seen it all now In-Reply-To: References: <498B7699.9010602@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4333f8140902051603l441cc17s94bf4918179799bb@mail.gmail.com> Best way to go about this is to snipe it! Hal On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > <<*Not bad for under $17 shipped.>> > > ONLY $15.66 to me, Frank. Want me to bid on them for YOU???? > > LMAO ! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 17:06:51 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:06:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902051410m6134c634nf1bb9fad87e5a95a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4F2FBC5907D248A78F460E1423188BC6@MAINCOMPUTER> <5f00d9910902050729m671c4172g4d3f82a6b393a86d@mail.gmail.com> <498B4EB4.6050707@comcast.net> <200902051246391.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0902051410m6134c634nf1bb9fad87e5a95a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902051606k21c0c207k23463db0260f4efe@mail.gmail.com> > They have whatever access you give them. I use auto bill pay for one of my > cards so they not only have my account number but permission to withdraw my > monthly payment. Whats the diff between that and PayPal? > -- Correct. But what most people don't realize is that you give PayPal permission to seize and/or hold funds. In your case, you are paying. Most problems with PayPal stem from when you get paid and then have your payment disputed. For example: You sell a widget for $500. You get paid via PayPal. You send the widget insured with delivery confirmation. It arrives. The buyer files a dispute. PayPal grabs and holds $500. Your word against his. Meanwhile, PayPal holds your $500. Buyer gets his $500 back, keeps your widget, and opens a new PayPal account to rip someone else off. From kk7ss at verizon.net Thu Feb 5 17:07:10 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:07:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] I have seen it all now In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902051603l441cc17s94bf4918179799bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <498B7699.9010602@comcast.net>, , <4333f8140902051603l441cc17s94bf4918179799bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <498B0EAE.19892.1E531A4@kk7ss.verizon.net> Actually, wheel weights are ideal material for casting 50 caliber bullets for a Zouave.... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 17:07:58 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:07:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I have seen it all now In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902051603l441cc17s94bf4918179799bb@mail.gmail.com> References: <498B7699.9010602@comcast.net> <4333f8140902051603l441cc17s94bf4918179799bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902051607t5a0b414dp838e3e1abd431243@mail.gmail.com> Hey, I got dibs. I am bidding on that. You others find your own deal. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 5 17:12:58 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:12:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I refuse to give Ebay or PayPal the right to make deposits and withdrawals from my bank account without my knowledge or authorization. I don't want that knowledge in the hands of Ebay, PayPal, any of their employees, or the entire internet community. I have joint accounts with my wife. I DON'T want to have joint accounts with my wife, Ebay, and PayPal. Because of my strong feelings in this matter, I can no longer buy or sell on Ebay. I do hope Ebay soon goes out of business, or encounters some serious competition. I don't like monopolies, and I detest being bullied by one. BZ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 17:11:45 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:11:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC conten In-Reply-To: References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> <498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net> <5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> <200902051105344.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902051611w1f31d3efw1f4d017fa9b5706d@mail.gmail.com> > The palindrome of Bolton would be Notlob. > No, a palindrome is a word that is the same forward and backward. Notlob is just Bolton backward. -Derf From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 17:19:00 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 16:19:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC conten In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902051611w1f31d3efw1f4d017fa9b5706d@mail.gmail.com> References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> <498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net> <5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com> <200902051105344.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <5f00d9910902051611w1f31d3efw1f4d017fa9b5706d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140902051619w7786384l6341db0e48b06c2d@mail.gmail.com> The president of the Palindrome Society drives A Toyota. On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:11 PM, derf wrote: > > The palindrome of Bolton would be Notlob. > > > > No, a palindrome is a word that is the same forward and backward. > > Notlob is just Bolton backward. > > -Derf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Thu Feb 5 17:27:02 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:27:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I have seen it all now In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902051607t5a0b414dp838e3e1abd431243@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> OK derf, I WILL concede to you !!! Deal me out !!! de From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu Feb 5 17:36:59 2009 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 19:36:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <200902060037.n160bB4L008758@mail.usimperio.com> Tell him to send his certified check, then tell him he will have a 4 month wait to make sure said check clears. Then he can send his "mover" to pickup "the item" Better yet, have his "mover" bring cold hard cash and an additional 100 bucks to pull the ad from CL, and have his "mover" contact you for pickup location (local mall / shopping center) See if you get a response from these. Dave At 02:07 PM 2/5/2009, you wrote: >I listed an item on Craigs list the other day. This guy emails me and want >to know if it is still available. I email back that it is. Then this: > >"I am very glad that I heard back from you in such a timely manner. I will >so much appreciate it if you can have the advert taken down from C.L I don't >mind adding an extra $50 for you to do that so that I can be rest assured >that the item is in hand. > >I wouldn't be able to come over for the check up due to my tight schedule >but my mover will be coming over for the pick up once payment issued has >been clarified. I will be paying via certified bank check and I will like to >know if the payment method is acceptable by you, huh? If it's do email me >your Full Name,Physical Address not Postal address, Zip code and phone >number for the mailing of the check for payment Regards, Daryl." > >I'm seriously thinking about letting him come and pick it up so I can beat >the sh... out his 'mover' when he gets here. > >draeH (just trying to stay up on the palindrome thread) From shop at justbrits.com Thu Feb 5 17:39:07 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:39:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] I have seen it all now In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902051603l441cc17s94bf4918179799bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Good grief Hal, what would ANYBODY want with a polecat (skunk except with yellow stripe)?!?!?! Wouldn't even make a decent wheel chock !!!!!! Yuk !!!! Frank From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 5 17:45:28 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 18:45:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC conten References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com><417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com><498B2C64.1050102@verizon.net><5f00d9910902051025k3129fb16sadaa859196ada988@mail.gmail.com><200902051105344.SM10916@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <5f00d9910902051611w1f31d3efw1f4d017fa9b5706d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <12D2D3B01A9E45228E5F49EAE376D485@rwa> >> The palindrome of Bolton would be Notlob. > No, a palindrome is a word that is the same forward and backward. > Notlob is just Bolton backward. Derf, You are now being ejected from the List... No, wait a minute, you are now being sentenced to remaining on the List another year for not recognizing the quote from the Monty Python "Dead Parrot" sketch. A thorough knowledge of Monty Python is required for LBC ownership. Is your name not Bruce? Bruce From dwramsey at att.net Thu Feb 5 18:15:26 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:15:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <094601c987ca$3c968210$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <20090206011547.CA68C187887@autox.team.net> The AKC wouldn't let me register my dog's name, John the Basset. Crash Back in the 70's, my good friend had a bassett hound named Moses. He had his phone number listed as Moses Bassett. Makes it easy to spot the solicitors. He had a lot of fun with the junk mail also. From davriker at nwi.net Thu Feb 5 18:25:06 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:25:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <27D883D81DCF4488800C767E2A9910D1@MAIN> You can tell it is a fraud if they won't use the US Mail to send you the payment. It becomes MAIL FRAUD, and carries a much stiffer penalty when caught. Scammers want your PHYSICAL address so that they can send payment via FedEX, UPS, or some other courier service. (the bad grammer and butchered english sentances are probably clue #2) David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heard" To: Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? >I listed an item on Craigs list the other day. This guy emails me and want > to know if it is still available. I email back that it is. Then this: > > "I am very glad that I heard back from you in such a timely manner. I will > so much appreciate it if you can have the advert taken down from C.L I > don't > mind adding an extra $50 for you to do that so that I can be rest assured > that the item is in hand. > > I wouldn't be able to come over for the check up due to my tight schedule > but my mover will be coming over for the pick up once payment issued has > been clarified. I will be paying via certified bank check and I will like > to > know if the payment method is acceptable by you, huh? If it's do email me > your Full Name,Physical Address not Postal address, Zip code and phone > number for the mailing of the check for payment Regards, Daryl." From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 18:32:07 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:32:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? In-Reply-To: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <205cef430902051732of1bcaa7qa080eeaf799f0119@mail.gmail.com> Oh wouldn't it be great if they would come to your house I would love to see you kick his butt : ) Lin On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Heard wrote: > I listed an item on Craigs list the other day. This guy emails me and want > to know if it is still available. I email back that it is. Then this: > > "I am very glad that I heard back from you in such a timely manner. I will > so much appreciate it if you can have the advert taken down from C.L I > don't > mind adding an extra $50 for you to do that so that I can be rest assured > that the item is in hand. > > I wouldn't be able to come over for the check up due to my tight schedule > but my mover will be coming over for the pick up once payment issued has > been clarified. I will be paying via certified bank check and I will like > to > know if the payment method is acceptable by you, huh? If it's do email me > your Full Name,Physical Address not Postal address, Zip code and phone > number for the mailing of the check for payment Regards, Daryl." > > I'm seriously thinking about letting him come and pick it up so I can beat > the sh... out his 'mover' when he gets here. > > draeH (just trying to stay up on the palindrome thread) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 18:36:57 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:36:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Judson 1275 In-Reply-To: <486B1ECE30C441C1B751349ED4C0A493@HomeComputer> References: <486B1ECE30C441C1B751349ED4C0A493@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <205cef430902051736k23c31242o76fb58bd836ab9a7@mail.gmail.com> Cool ........ vrroom vrroom......... she must be screaming fast. Lin On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Dean Swanson wrote: > Raleigh NC Craigslist has a 1275 (bored to 1500?) with a Judson > supercharger? > > > > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1015326883.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Feb 5 18:39:02 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:39:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos Message-ID: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu> http://tinyurl.com/4nsfe5 Here's a slide show, the last few are from today with the new CA plate. There is a bit of "garage rash" to repaint and the wood for the bed won't show up until tomorrow. 3/4" marine ply for the bed and back, clear fir for the side rails and stakes. I made sure to back up far enough that you can't see my crappy welds on the bed frame. Peter C, note the chrome strip and grill surround!!! Chevy Vega wheels off evil E-bay. The seat is from a pick+pull Mitsu truck. The new upholstery is from my trusty 50+ year old Adler sewing machine. The front valence is buggered too much to continue messing with it and will be replaced. The short painted front bumper blade is correct for the trucks and vans. The 1275 with the VP7 cam and single SU is plenty powerful for the truck and the Cherry Bomb "muffler??" makes a mean sound. The rebuilt 5-sp shifts great with no leaks and the engine is dry after a day driving around. I can't wait to get this out on the open road this weekend and put some miles on it. Work and back today was FUN. Glen From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 18:39:47 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:39:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye in Orlando for sale In-Reply-To: <084601c98708$1bdb1300$1801010a@xp> References: <084601c98708$1bdb1300$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <205cef430902051739g2ac67fb0lc6dc0496bd599627@mail.gmail.com> Two for one : ) Lin On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Heard wrote: > Not sure if this one is still available or not, but it does have a hard > top. > > http://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/987286618.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 18:41:27 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:41:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Judson 1275 References: <486B1ECE30C441C1B751349ED4C0A493@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <17F23F5CA18944E08F50CB6E57638939@blackbox2> If you don't play with the pulley sizes, a Judson on a bored 1275cc engine will give you about 2 psi. boost, maybe less. If you then play with the pulley sizes then something will break. > Raleigh NC Craigslist has a 1275 (bored to 1500?) with a Judson > supercharger? > > > > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1015326883.html From davriker at nwi.net Thu Feb 5 18:39:50 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:39:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Who's Car in this Video? References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> <27D883D81DCF4488800C767E2A9910D1@MAIN> Message-ID: One of my co-workers found this music video on youtube. Weird song, but the Midget looks pretty nice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4v6tlcnvSw Does the car belong to someone here? Also, I called XM Radio listener care today to remove one of my radios from my subscription. They are raising the price for second radios a couple of bucks, and we don't use the one in the basement much, can't see paying $8.99 a month when we don't listen to it. Well, just like AOL, or any number of subscription based services, it takes an act of congress and a presidential decree to ever cancel your subscription. BUT, after two phone calls, 5 customer service representatives, and about 45 minutes combined time on hold, the last customer service representative gave me 5 months of service for the price of 1. $19.95x4 free months = about $100 of service free. Just thought anyone else with XM might want to spend the hour or so it takes on hold and try to cancel too. David R. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Feb 5 18:49:01 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:49:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos In-Reply-To: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu> References: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <25B35409C19945D6B1A66FDB709399DC@spider> Very nice. Did you make your own wiring harness? What is the steering wheel from? Is that the original color? ...bill in oregon ========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Glen Byrns Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:39 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos http://tinyurl.com/4nsfe5 Here's a slide show, the last few are from today with the new CA plate. There is a bit of "garage rash" to repaint and the wood for the bed won't show up until tomorrow. 3/4" marine ply for the bed and back, clear fir for the side rails and stakes. I made sure to back up far enough that you can't see my crappy welds on the bed frame. Peter C, note the chrome strip and grill surround!!! Chevy Vega wheels off evil E-bay. The seat is from a pick+pull Mitsu truck. The new upholstery is from my trusty 50+ year old Adler sewing machine. The front valence is buggered too much to continue messing with it and will be replaced. The short painted front bumper blade is correct for the trucks and vans. The 1275 with the VP7 cam and single SU is plenty powerful for the truck and the Cherry Bomb "muffler??" makes a mean sound. The rebuilt 5-sp shifts great with no leaks and the engine is dry after a day driving around. I can't wait to get this out on the open road this weekend and put some miles on it. Work and back today was FUN. Glen _______________________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 18:52:26 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:52:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Who's Car in this Video? In-Reply-To: References: <092d01c987c4$f79ad8f0$1801010a@xp> <27D883D81DCF4488800C767E2A9910D1@MAIN> Message-ID: <205cef430902051752j467c0388yac95129658850366@mail.gmail.com> Very sweet Midget. I always liked the Midget grill opposed to the Sprite grill, a bit more classy. Too bad they didn't have more of it in the video : ( Lin On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM, David Riker wrote: > One of my co-workers found this music video on youtube. Weird song, but > the Midget looks pretty nice. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4v6tlcnvSw Does the car belong to someone > here? > > Also, I called XM Radio listener care today to remove one of my radios from > my subscription. They are raising the price for second radios a couple of > bucks, and we don't use the one in the basement much, can't see paying > $8.99 a month when we don't listen to it. Well, just like AOL, or any > number of subscription based services, it takes an act of congress and a > presidential decree to ever cancel your subscription. BUT, after two phone > calls, 5 customer service representatives, and about 45 minutes combined > time on hold, the last customer service representative gave me 5 months of > service for the price of 1. $19.95x4 free months = about $100 of service > free. Just thought anyone else with XM might want to spend the hour or so > it takes on hold and try to cancel too. > > David R. _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 19:02:25 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:02:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos In-Reply-To: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu> References: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <205cef430902051802k61bef42el5803d071ef14e3ba@mail.gmail.com> Hey Glen, She looks great! I always liked the little trucks : ) Are the parts interchangeable and readily available as the Spridgets? Those are Vega wheels? Does this mean all Vega wheels fit the Spridgets too? Keep up the good work she is awesome. Linda On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/4nsfe5 > > Here's a slide show, the last few are from today with the new CA plate. > There is a bit of "garage rash" to repaint and the wood for the bed won't > show up until tomorrow. 3/4" marine ply for the bed and back, clear fir > for the side rails and stakes. I made sure to back up far enough that > you can't see my crappy welds on the bed frame. > > Peter C, note the chrome strip and grill surround!!! Chevy Vega wheels > off evil E-bay. The seat is from a pick+pull Mitsu truck. The new > upholstery is from my trusty 50+ year old Adler sewing machine. > > The front valence is buggered too much to continue messing with it and > will be replaced. The short painted front bumper blade is correct for > the trucks and vans. The 1275 with the VP7 cam and single SU is plenty > powerful for the truck and the Cherry Bomb "muffler??" makes a mean > sound. The rebuilt 5-sp shifts great with no leaks and the engine is dry > after a day driving around. I can't wait to get this out on the open > road this weekend and put some miles on it. Work and back today was FUN. > > Glen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 19:14:31 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:14:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] New truck is LEGAL! In-Reply-To: <189779879050407A8317C0189118EAA4@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <189779879050407A8317C0189118EAA4@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <205cef430902051814o6f3e0ae5xd478809e312b3c23@mail.gmail.com> Nice story Glen, cool to register in CA with just a Heritage Certificate, here in NJ you have to give your DNA and all the paperwork to get a car registered, NJ is the worst but I am sure you have heard that many times before from Frank. I especially liked the part about the mag's : ) Lin On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > The 1959 Morris pickup I got after I got back from LotO got its CA license > today. The inspector had no problems with the numbers, didn't ask any > tough > questions and gave me my plate and sticker. Unfortunately, he also > insisted > on keeping the Heritage certificate as some sort of "pink slip". I > explained > to him that anyone in the country could pay the same $$ and get a copy of > the > certificate with my info on it and that it was NOT any sort of legal > document. > After quite a bit of arguing, I had to leave with the plate and tag and he > kept the certificate. DO NOT BRING YOUR HERITAGE CERTIFICATE to the CA > DMV. > Generous soul that he was, he gave me a xerox of it. Thanks loads you > bureaucratic drone! I fought a year to get permission to use my > black/yellow > plates on the Sprite, I suppose its back into the trenches to get back my > Heritage certificate. Freaking pencil pushers!!!!! He also told me that > my > little toy is a commercial vehicle because of its flatbed and would need a > weight certificate. It took half the morning to find a place that could > weigh > it and issue a DMV-acceptable certificate. (1500lbs, before you ask) So I > guess that I'm now a gen-u-ine trucker. Gotta get me some of those chrome > naked babe mudflaps. All things considered, to take a vehicle in with no > paperwork but a BMIHT certificate and a smile, and leave with a valid CA > license for a grand total of $125 in fees is a pretty good day. > > When I finish the wood for the stake-side flatbed in a week or two I'll > post > the final pictures. > As I was leaving the DMV a guy rushed up and told me his problems with his > dad's 1957 Morris Minor convertible. Seems he's desperate to get original > Morris wheels for it and get rid of the "aftermarket mag wheels on it now". > I > told him I could certainly get him a set and that I'd be happy to trade for > those nasty old mags on it now. He said that would be great. Guess who is > going to get a set of Minilites for the cost of 4 old Moggie wheels? > (insert > fiendish giggle) Some days you eat the bear................ > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 5 19:39:32 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:39:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos References: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu> <205cef430902051802k61bef42el5803d071ef14e3ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Does this mean all Vega wheels fit the Spridgets too? Lin, Yes, Chevy Vega (and Monza) wheels are some of the few that share the 4-on-4" bolt pattern of the Spridget. Vega GT wheels are especially nice for autocrossing as they are 6" wide. OTOH, If you choose to run Vega wheels, do NOT use the stock (11/16" socket) Spridget lugnuts as these will tear right through the holes. The after-market lugnuts for Minitors (13/16" socket) work well. David From dlh2001 at comcast.net Thu Feb 5 21:38:05 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:38:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega Wheels References: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu><205cef430902051802k61bef42el5803d071ef14e3ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7E5FD85A604F400AB50719CEA2045C38@blackbox2> There is one more issue. The center hole is not large enough. You have to either enlarge the center hole or run 1/4" spacer plates between the rims and the hub. At least this was the case with the steel Vega wheels I once had. They did not look too bad. I always thought a little moon hubcap on them would look good. But I never found anything that would fit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb"Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos >> Does this mean all Vega wheels fit the Spridgets too? > > Lin, > Yes, Chevy Vega (and Monza) wheels are some of the few that share the > 4-on-4" bolt pattern of the Spridget. Vega GT wheels are especially nice for > autocrossing as they are 6" wide. OTOH, If you choose to run Vega wheels, do > NOT use the stock (11/16" socket) Spridget lugnuts as these will tear right > through the holes. The after-market lugnuts for Minitors (13/16" socket) > work well. > David From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu Feb 5 21:38:23 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:38:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos Message-ID: <140d801c98814$be695f70$056a010a@mail2world.com> The Vega GT wheels also look a lot like Rostyles... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] >Sent: 2/5/2009 9:41:32 PM >To: grunthaner at gmail.com;spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos > >> Does this mean all Vega wheels fit the Spridgets too? > >Lin, >Yes, Chevy Vega (and Monza) wheels are some of the few that share the >4-on-4" bolt pattern of the Spridget. Vega GT wheels are especially nice for >autocrossing as they are 6" wide. OTOH, If you choose to run Vega wheels, do >NOT use the stock (11/16" socket) Spridget lugnuts as these will tear right >through the holes. The after-market lugnuts for Minitors (13/16" socket) >work well. >David >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From mhagopian at hoppetool.com Fri Feb 6 01:21:38 2009 From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 03:21:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: References: <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87a1f55d0902060021h20dfb2a7vcb06c835360728e0@mail.gmail.com> As a seller... you have to PAY Paypal to get YOUR money... on $1000 bucks it was $32 plus the 1.50 per check and ONLY being able to receive 500 PER MONTH!!! On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > I refuse to give Ebay or PayPal the right to make deposits and withdrawals > from my bank account without my knowledge or authorization. I don't want > that knowledge in the hands of Ebay, PayPal, any of their employees, or the > entire internet community. I have joint accounts with my wife. I DON'T want > to have joint accounts with my wife, Ebay, and PayPal. > Because of my strong feelings in this matter, I can no longer buy or sell > on > Ebay. > I do hope Ebay soon goes out of business, or encounters some serious > competition. > I don't like monopolies, and I detest being bullied by one. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mhagopian at hoppetool.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Sincerely, Matt Hagopian From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Feb 6 01:46:29 2009 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 00:46:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets Digest, Vol 21, Issue 14 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41967428-7842-4B9A-89CE-1FA26526D1FD@gerardsgarage.com> Glen, Truck's lookin' good. I had the same issue with DMV regarding the weight issue, because mine came from Texas and had no weight listed on the Texas title. I thought it so ridiculous, I asked to speak to a supervisor and she waved the weight certificate. They still charge me extra on the registration every year for the commercial status. The concept has to do with trucks heavy trucks putting extra wear on the roads... yeah, all 1500 pounds of it! -Stupid. The odd thing though, it does not apply for the van! I can't believe they kept your Heritage certificate. I guess you should have gone with a photocopy. Those things are too expensive to sit in a DMV file somewhere in Sac. I think you should have gone to a supervisor over that one. Gerard > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 17:39:02 -0800 (PST) > From: "Glen Byrns" > Subject: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Message-ID: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399 at musca.ucdavis.edu> > > http://tinyurl.com/4nsfe5 > > Here's a slide show, the last few are from today with the new CA > plate. > There is a bit of "garage rash" to repaint and the wood for the bed > won't > show up until tomorrow. 3/4" marine ply for the bed and back, > clear fir > for the side rails and stakes. I made sure to back up far enough that > you can't see my crappy welds on the bed frame. > > Peter C, note the chrome strip and grill surround!!! Chevy Vega > wheels > off evil E-bay. The seat is from a pick+pull Mitsu truck. The new > upholstery is from my trusty 50+ year old Adler sewing machine. > > The front valence is buggered too much to continue messing with it and > will be replaced. The short painted front bumper blade is correct for > the trucks and vans. The 1275 with the VP7 cam and single SU is plenty > powerful for the truck and the Cherry Bomb "muffler??" makes a mean > sound. The rebuilt 5-sp shifts great with no leaks and the engine > is dry > after a day driving around. I can't wait to get this out on the open > road this weekend and put some miles on it. Work and back today > was FUN. > > Glen > > > > End of Spridgets Digest, Vol 21, Issue 14 > ***************************************** From andrewpayne at intrex.net Fri Feb 6 05:00:23 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:00:23 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? Message-ID: I'm not sure how it could not be a scam. I sold a Porsche 931 a bout a year ago, only scams and deadbeats from CL. Great sale from the $200X classifieds on Grassroots motorsports. No deadbeats or scams either. Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Heard" To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: 2/5/09 2:07 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Could this be a scam? I listed an item on Craigs list the other day. This guy emails me and want to know if it is still available. I email back that it is. Then this: "I am very glad that I heard back from you in such a timely manner. I will so much appreciate it if you can have the advert taken down from C.L I don't mind adding an extra $50 for you to do that so that I can be rest assured that the item is in hand. I wouldn't be able to come over for the check up due to my tight schedule but my mover will be coming over for the pick up once payment issued has been clarified. I will be paying via certified bank check and I will like to know if the payment method is acceptable by you, huh? If it's do email me your Full Name,Physical Address not Postal address, Zip code and phone number for the mailing of the check for payment Regards, Daryl." I'm seriously thinking about letting him come and pick it up so I can beat the sh... out his 'mover' when he gets here. draeH (just trying to stay up on the palindrome thread) You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From healeymnster at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 07:51:14 2009 From: healeymnster at gmail.com (Ed Townley) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:51:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal Message-ID: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> just to add a little more fuel to this smoldering topic--I listed a Borescope on ebay yesterday, and before the listing was finalized, an alert pop-up told me that the term "like new" was a prohibited term, and that I should change it--i did so to get the thing listed, but it was too late-- the ebay police cancelled the listing anyway and i had to relist and ask for a refund of the insertion fee on the first listing. ARRGH. in a similar vein, as a charter member and co-founder of the White Sands Missile Range Historical foundation, I have listed and sold several WWII Nazi V2 rocket pieces as memorabilia, complete with letters of authenticity, etc. I do this as a service for the fundraising efforts of the Foundation. the last attempt failed, as the listing was cancelled due to the Word "Nazi" in the title and description, saying it was deemed a "hate" word!! who the *%$*^ is in charge at Ebay?? they should consider moving their HQ to the Right side of the country, or at least toward the center. At least we still have Auctionarms.com and cheaperthandirt.com for guns and ammo. Ed Townley Southern NM, USA From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Feb 6 08:00:23 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:00:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] military sales sites In-Reply-To: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0079A624D7ED4096A78D00C2AA645489@spider> http://www.manions.com/ also for military stuff. ...bill in oregon ================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed Townley Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:51 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal just to add a little more fuel to this smoldering topic--I listed a Borescope on ebay yesterday, . . . At least we still have Auctionarms.com and cheaperthandirt.com for guns and ammo. Ed Townley Southern NM, USA _______________________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 08:12:50 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:12:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega Wheels In-Reply-To: <7E5FD85A604F400AB50719CEA2045C38@blackbox2> References: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu> <205cef430902051802k61bef42el5803d071ef14e3ba@mail.gmail.com> <7E5FD85A604F400AB50719CEA2045C38@blackbox2> Message-ID: <205cef430902060712q155adaa8t8fff523dfc80c9f0@mail.gmail.com> Very cool so where would be the best place to look for inexpensive Vega Mags? Lin On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > There is one more issue. > The center hole is not large enough. > You have to either enlarge the center hole or run 1/4" > spacer plates between the rims and the hub. > > At least this was the case with the steel Vega wheels > I once had. > > They did not look too bad. I always thought a little moon > hubcap on them would look good. But I never found anything > that would fit. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb"Subject: Re: [Spridgets] > Morris truck photos > > > Does this mean all Vega wheels fit the Spridgets too? >>> >> >> Lin, >> Yes, Chevy Vega (and Monza) wheels are some of the few that share the >> 4-on-4" bolt pattern of the Spridget. Vega GT wheels are especially nice for >> autocrossing as they are 6" wide. OTOH, If you choose to run Vega wheels, do >> NOT use the stock (11/16" socket) Spridget lugnuts as these will tear right >> through the holes. The after-market lugnuts for Minitors (13/16" socket) >> work well. >> David From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Feb 6 08:21:15 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:21:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega Wheels References: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu> <205cef430902051802k61bef42el5803d071ef14e3ba@mail.gmail.com> <7E5FD85A604F400AB50719CEA2045C38@blackbox2> <205cef430902060712q155adaa8t8fff523dfc80c9f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <62C6523432B14F828C4A5EF2484E9178@NilesAD.von.gov> >> There is one more issue. >> The center hole is not large enough. >> You have to either enlarge the center hole or run 1/4" >> spacer plates between the rims and the hub. >> >> At least this was the case with the steel Vega wheels >> I once had. The steel 6" Vega GT rims that I use for autocross (yes, Chris, they do resemble RO-Styles) have no apparent modifications to the center hole and fit fine without any spacers. Finding another set might be difficult these days. David Lieb From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Fri Feb 6 08:27:19 2009 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:27:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WWII and LBC In-Reply-To: <799knl$5hhnae@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: This is very interesting! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Timothy H. Collins Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 1:32 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] WWII and LBC I mentioned my search for information about WWII a few days ago. I came across an interesting WWII site with some LBC content I though I would share. During WWII the US Army was in Brisbane Australia. When they left they filled an old quarry with "war remains" - guns, cannons, planes, bombs, etc. Then the Ausies contributed their junk over the years. A guy obtained permission to drain the quarry and salvage what he found. Included with the military planes (US and Jap.) he found a "Mini Cooper S (that) spent 10 days on the road... and nearly 30 years under water" and a 1937 Wolsely. There's even some poor quality video of some of the salvage including the Mini. The Mini is remarkably straight considering its history. Interesting pics and video on this site. See: http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/quarry.htm Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ You are subscribed as bogodwin at bellsouth.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From heard at datatrontech.net Fri Feb 6 08:29:43 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:29:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> References: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <09ae01c9886f$bc687700$1801010a@xp> " who the *%$*^ is in charge at Ebay??" They won't tell you, even though you must give them your bank account and credit card info. What a ridiculous organization. From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 09:02:14 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:02:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos In-Reply-To: <140d801c98814$be695f70$056a010a@mail2world.com> References: <140d801c98814$be695f70$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902060802l56eee07fv2a265a47c17fe2b8@mail.gmail.com> I was hoping they looked more like Libres : ( but nice to know they fit. Lin On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris King wrote: > The Vega GT wheels also look a lot like Rostyles... > > -=Chris > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > > <-----Original Message-----> > >From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] > >Sent: 2/5/2009 9:41:32 PM > >To: grunthaner at gmail.com;spridgets at autox.team.net > >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Morris truck photos > > > >> Does this mean all Vega wheels fit the Spridgets too? > > > >Lin, > >Yes, Chevy Vega (and Monza) wheels are some of the few that share the > >4-on-4" bolt pattern of the Spridget. Vega GT wheels are especially nice > for > >autocrossing as they are 6" wide. OTOH, If you choose to run Vega wheels, > do > >NOT use the stock (11/16" socket) Spridget lugnuts as these will tear > right > >through the holes. The after-market lugnuts for Minitors (13/16" socket) > >work well. > >David > >_______________________________________________ > >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > > > >http://www.team.net/archive > > > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > >. From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 09:07:37 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:07:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] WWII and LBC In-Reply-To: <799knl$5hhnae@email.mtu.edu> References: <799knl$5hhnae@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <205cef430902060807o29b6325fs644f77a2a9123e46@mail.gmail.com> Wow that poor little Mini : ( Lin On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Timothy H. Collins wrote: > I mentioned my search for information about WWII a few days ago. I > came across an interesting WWII site with some LBC content I though I > would share. During WWII the US Army was in Brisbane Australia. When > they left they filled an old quarry with "war remains" - guns, > cannons, planes, bombs, etc. Then the Ausies contributed their junk > over the years. A guy obtained permission to drain the quarry and > salvage what he found. Included with the military planes (US and > Jap.) he found a "Mini Cooper S (that) spent 10 days on the road... > and nearly 30 years under water" and a 1937 Wolsely. There's even > some poor quality video of some of the salvage including the Mini. > The Mini is remarkably straight considering its history. Interesting > pics and video on this site. > See: http://home.st.net.au/~dunn/quarry.htm > > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Fri Feb 6 09:48:25 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:48:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New truck is LEGAL! In-Reply-To: <189779879050407A8317C0189118EAA4@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <189779879050407A8317C0189118EAA4@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: Hello Glen, The truck looks great. I still had my Morris pickup when the DMV made the rule change. It use to be that the vehicle had to weigh 3,000 lbs before it was even considered for commercial plates. Then came all the little Japanese pickups that business were using as delivery trucks but with passenger car plates - under the weight requirement - but with the business name on the side, parking in commercial parking and such. When I got the renewal registration with additional fees and commercial class made a trip to the DMV. Conversation went something like this: Me: Why did I get a commercial registration? DMV: It is a pickup. Me: So every pickup regardless of use has to have commercial plates? DMV: Yes Me: So now I can park in commercial parking zones? DMV: No, you are not a business. Me: I can deduct the cost of the truck off my income tax. DMV: No you are not a business. Me: Then I do not need commercial plates. DMV: Yes it is a pickup. Have not check lately but for a while you could get passenger plates for a pickup but you could not carry anything in the bed that was not "incidental" to the passengers; groceries and luggage. At the same time I had a Ford Club Wagon (window van) that had passenger plates and had been registered as a station wagon. Like station wagons you could haul anything. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: > He also told me that my > little toy is a commercial vehicle because of its flatbed and would > need a > weight certificate. It took half the morning to find a place that > could weigh > it and issue a DMV-acceptable certificate. (1500lbs, before you ask) > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 10:32:49 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:32:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <87a1f55d0902060021h20dfb2a7vcb06c835360728e0@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com> <87a1f55d0902060021h20dfb2a7vcb06c835360728e0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902060932le8f1481uec2f56f9458e14a@mail.gmail.com> Yeah. That's the pits! Why don't they just give their service away. You know - put your products up on an international cataloged website with major league bandwidth and an entire farm of servers, nicely displayed where everyone can see them all over the world, and then handle all your money transactions for free too! Man, are they selfish! Bastards! Try starting your own online sales and banking system and see how much it costs you.... A cataloged website that accepts credit cards alone will cost you over $300 a month. Then the banks hit you for a credit card system - $100 a month or so.... legal fees, taxes... etc. Did you expect all that out of the kindness of their heart? Cheers!! Jim P.S. If you upgrade your PayPal account the $500 limit comes off....... On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Matt Hagopian wrote: > As a seller... you have to PAY Paypal to get YOUR money... on $1000 bucks > it > was $32 plus the 1.50 per check and ONLY being able to receive 500 PER > MONTH!!! > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Billy Zoom > wrote: > > > I refuse to give Ebay or PayPal the right to make deposits and > withdrawals > > from my bank account without my knowledge or authorization. I don't want > > that knowledge in the hands of Ebay, PayPal, any of their employees, or > the > > entire internet community. I have joint accounts with my wife. I DON'T > want > > to have joint accounts with my wife, Ebay, and PayPal. > > Because of my strong feelings in this matter, I can no longer buy or sell > > on > > Ebay. > > I do hope Ebay soon goes out of business, or encounters some serious > > competition. > > I don't like monopolies, and I detest being bullied by one. > > BZ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as mhagopian at hoppetool.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > Sincerely, > > > Matt Hagopian > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 10:58:32 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:58:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <09ae01c9886f$bc687700$1801010a@xp> References: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> <09ae01c9886f$bc687700$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902060958h19747d38gf27eccc45b6dabc4@mail.gmail.com> Geez, guys! Use the internet to your advantage! A Google search for CEO Ebay gives: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/EBay Took me 2 seconds to find the company listings. They are headquartered in San Jose, CA and the CEO is John Donahoe. If you have a problem with the company, talk to them! I'm sure they don't want to alienate customers. It isn't good for business. Read everything at the above link. If you still think Ebay is unreasonable, close your account. Nobody is making you use it. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Heard wrote: > " who the *%$*^ is in charge at Ebay??" > > They won't tell you, even though you must give them your bank account and > credit card info. What a ridiculous organization. > _____________________________________________ From millerls at ado13.com Fri Feb 6 10:58:35 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:58:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal References: <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com><87a1f55d0902060021h20dfb2a7vcb06c835360728e0@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0902060932le8f1481uec2f56f9458e14a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <68DA244419C94D1FAF429003B4A0CB52@HP> YES!!!! > Did you expect all that out of the kindness of their heart? > > Cheers!! > Jim From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Feb 6 11:03:18 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:03:18 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain Message-ID: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/06/britain-weather.html From wbmcleod at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 11:08:09 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:08:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902060932le8f1481uec2f56f9458e14a@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com> <87a1f55d0902060021h20dfb2a7vcb06c835360728e0@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0902060932le8f1481uec2f56f9458e14a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: As one who has been a seller and Paypal user since the days when they were still offering a $10 bonus for signing up (9 years ago), I have had few complaints until lately. Now they are trying to force all ebay customers to use their services and charging pretty high fees for the privilege. My Visa company doesn't tell me I have to use their card and doesn't tell me as a seller that I cannot accept cash or a check, but Paypal does. It is not the cost, it is the enforcement! Bill Tucson On Feb 6, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > <> Why don't they just give their service away. You > know - put your products up on an international cataloged website > with major > league bandwidth and an entire farm of servers, nicely displayed where > everyone can see them all over the world, and then handle all your > money > transactions for free too! <> > > Jim > > P.S. If you upgrade your PayPal account the $500 limit comes > off....... > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:21 AM, Matt Hagopian > wrote: > >> As a seller... you have to PAY Paypal to get YOUR money... on $1000 >> bucks >> it >> was $32 plus the 1.50 per check and ONLY being able to receive 500 >> PER >> MONTH!!! >> >> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Billy Zoom >> wrote: >> >>> I refuse to give Ebay or PayPal the right to make deposits and >> withdrawals >>> from my bank account without my knowledge or authorization. I >>> don't want >>> that knowledge in the hands of Ebay, PayPal, any of their >>> employees, or >> the >>> entire internet community. I have joint accounts with my wife. I >>> DON'T >> want >>> to have joint accounts with my wife, Ebay, and PayPal. >>> Because of my strong feelings in this matter, I can no longer buy >>> or sell >>> on >>> Ebay. >>> I do hope Ebay soon goes out of business, or encounters some serious >>> competition. >>> I don't like monopolies, and I detest being bullied by one. >>> BZ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 6 11:14:27 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:14:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Pay pal References: <5f00d9910902051337s4eab31f2o5a23416a9eecc9b0@mail.gmail.com><87a1f55d0902060021h20dfb2a7vcb06c835360728e0@mail.gmail.com><43840a7e0902060932le8f1481uec2f56f9458e14a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <690E2036A6824C01BC7838509FCE8385@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "William McLeod" To: "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Pay pal As one who has been a seller and Paypal user since the days when they were still offering a $10 bonus for signing up (9 years ago), I have had few complaints until lately. Now they are trying to force all ebay customers to use their services and charging pretty high fees for the privilege. My Visa company doesn't tell me I have to use their card and doesn't tell me as a seller that I cannot accept cash or a check, but Paypal does. It is not the cost, it is the enforcement! Bill Tucson ======================== Are you sure Bill Gates isn't behind this? From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Feb 6 12:05:11 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:05:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega Wheels Message-ID: <26ca01c9888d$d5bd0270$0168010a@mail2world.com> Lin, The steel base wheels and the steel GT wheels show up on ebay from time to time and are usually pretty cheap. Alloy wheels, like the gold Cosworth Vega wheels and the 10-hole Monza wheels are usually a bit more pricey. Cosworth wheels especially are pricey as there were only a limited number made and there's a small but enthusiastic following for the cars. There's a Vega/Monza community at www.h-body.org , I think they hae a classified section, but if not I'm sure someone has some GT wheels lying about that they'd let go. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Linda Grunthaner [grunthaner at gmail.com] Sent: 2/6/2009 10:13:50 AM To: dlh2001 at comcast.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vega Wheels Very cool so where would be the best place to look for inexpensive Vega Mags? Lin On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > There is one more issue. > The center hole is not large enough. > You have to either enlarge the center hole or run 1/4" > spacer plates between the rims and the hub. > > At least this was the case with the steel Vega wheels > I once had. > > They did not look too bad. I always thought a little moon > hubcap on them would look good. But I never found anything > that would fit. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb"Subject: Re: [Spridgets] > Morris truck photos > > > Does this mean all Vega wheels fit the Spridgets too? >>> >> >> Lin, >> Yes, Chevy Vega (and Monza) wheels are some of the few that share the >> 4-on-4" bolt pattern of the Spridget. Vega GT wheels are especially nice for >> autocrossing as they are 6" wide. OTOH, If you choose to run Vega wheels, do >> NOT use the stock (11/16" socket) Spridget lugnuts as these will tear right >> through the holes. The after-market lugnuts for Minitors (13/16" socket) >> work well. >> David _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets . From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri Feb 6 12:17:24 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:17:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, I Know My Rights Message-ID: <114644.1286.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Had to share, this is too funny! LMAO http://biggeekdaddy.com/humorpages/M...ticarrest.html http://biggeekdaddy.com/humorpages/M...serarrest.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNPxI...ext=1&index=15 John Fogelsville, PA From heard at datatrontech.net Fri Feb 6 12:38:00 2009 From: heard at datatrontech.net (Heard) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:38:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902060958h19747d38gf27eccc45b6dabc4@mail.gmail.com> References: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> <09ae01c9886f$bc687700$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902060958h19747d38gf27eccc45b6dabc4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0a0f01c98892$6ba0c1b0$1801010a@xp> I'm pretty sure Jim works for ebay or paypal :) What is funny about this, Jim is you had to use Google to find anything about ebay. You can't find it on their website. BTW, paypal backwards is lapyap... _____ From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:59 PM To: Heard Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal Geez, guys! Use the internet to your advantage! A Google search for CEO Ebay gives: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/EBay Took me 2 seconds to find the company listings. They are headquartered in San Jose, CA and the CEO is John Donahoe. If you have a problem with the company, talk to them! I'm sure they don't want to alienate customers. It isn't good for business. Read everything at the above link. If you still think Ebay is unreasonable, close your account. Nobody is making you use it. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Heard wrote: " who the *%$*^ is in charge at Ebay??" They won't tell you, even though you must give them your bank account and credit card info. What a ridiculous organization. _____________________________________________ From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 6 13:42:29 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:42:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, I Know My Rights In-Reply-To: <114644.1286.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> It would REALLY help if the 1st TWO links worked (say 'Houston we have a problem), and youtube just goes to a 'collection' of videos, John!?!?!?! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 13:48:47 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:48:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <0a0f01c98892$6ba0c1b0$1801010a@xp> References: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> <09ae01c9886f$bc687700$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902060958h19747d38gf27eccc45b6dabc4@mail.gmail.com> <0a0f01c98892$6ba0c1b0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902061248n48298711s3ad2e3adfc5397eb@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Heard wrote: > I'm pretty sure Jim works for ebay or paypal :) What is funny about this, > Jim is you had to use Google to find anything about ebay. You can't find > it > on their website. It was so well hidden it took all of about 4 seconds to find: http://pages.ebay.com/aboutebay/contact.html Learn how to use a website for cryin' out loud! !!sreehC miJ From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 14:09:09 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:09:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902061248n48298711s3ad2e3adfc5397eb@mail.gmail.com> References: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> <09ae01c9886f$bc687700$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902060958h19747d38gf27eccc45b6dabc4@mail.gmail.com> <0a0f01c98892$6ba0c1b0$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902061248n48298711s3ad2e3adfc5397eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902061309y3a111b99nb0fe8530a57a9a1e@mail.gmail.com> OK, find a number that reaches a human that speaks reasonable English. Find one for PayPal and one for Ebay. Go. Google says the time http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=the+time&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= is 3:10 CST. Let's see how long it takes. From fastvee at yahoo.com Fri Feb 6 14:16:58 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:16:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC, I Know My Rights Message-ID: <207509.6337.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry, don't know how that cut&paste operation went wrong. Thanks Ed, let me try again. John http://tinyurl.com/awwt8l http://tinyurl.com/9c5owu http://tinyurl.com/cwyj5f --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Ed's Shop wrote: From: Ed's Shop Subject: RE: [Spridgets] No LBC, I Know My Rights To: "fastvee" , spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 3:42 PM <> It would REALLY help if the 1st TWO links worked (say 'Houston we have a problem), and youtube just goes to a 'collection' of videos, John!?!?!?! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 15:11:22 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:11:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902061309y3a111b99nb0fe8530a57a9a1e@mail.gmail.com> References: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> <09ae01c9886f$bc687700$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902060958h19747d38gf27eccc45b6dabc4@mail.gmail.com> <0a0f01c98892$6ba0c1b0$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902061248n48298711s3ad2e3adfc5397eb@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910902061309y3a111b99nb0fe8530a57a9a1e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902061411h48b31393v20b963ec333d287b@mail.gmail.com> I found the other things that were supposedly hidden. You find the rest. Call Customer Support. Ask for someone who speaks English. Ask for a supervisor. For Pete's sake... this isn't rocket science! Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:09 PM, derf wrote: > OK, find a number that reaches a human that speaks reasonable English. > Find one for PayPal and one for Ebay. > Go. > > Google says the time > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=the+time&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= > is 3:10 CST. > Let's see how long it takes. > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Feb 6 15:58:53 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:58:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902061411h48b31393v20b963ec333d287b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Call Customer Support And play with their voice mail for as long as you can stand it. You'll never speak to a human. They have voice mail so they don't have to provide a human or customer service. From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 6 16:07:56 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:07:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <<...a human...>> Is anybody SURE there IS even one, Billy????? Ed From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 16:31:36 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:31:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902061411h48b31393v20b963ec333d287b@mail.gmail.com> References: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> <09ae01c9886f$bc687700$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902060958h19747d38gf27eccc45b6dabc4@mail.gmail.com> <0a0f01c98892$6ba0c1b0$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902061248n48298711s3ad2e3adfc5397eb@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910902061309y3a111b99nb0fe8530a57a9a1e@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0902061411h48b31393v20b963ec333d287b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902061531g21d0b8dao57127c564dc24d67@mail.gmail.com> No, you found some info. But the hidden things are phone numbers and actual humans that can help with problems. From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Fri Feb 6 16:38:16 2009 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:38:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega Wheels Message-ID: <4.1.20090206182814.00d0bd40@mail.bellsouth.net> I have five Vega steel wheels I would be willing to part with. They are the standard steel wheel, not the GT "Rostyle-like" ones. They are 6" wide and rather heavy. But they do look good on a Spridget! I bought them to use with rain tires for my ' 67 Midget vintage race car but ran into a few problems that would not be an issue for a street or autocross car. They are too wide for vintage rules. They could be tricky setting up on a square fendered car. The center hole, being hub-centric, is too small for the Midget hubs and would need either some machine work or a thin spacer. The holes for the studs are 1/2" and even with my 7/16" studs, I didn't like the fit, especially with the center hole not mating to the hub well. I don't think these would be problems on the auto cross circuit or on the street, but I didn't want to take a chance at high speeds on the track. One of the wheels is bent at one stud hole, otherwise all they need is a cleaning up or sandblasting and some paint. If anyone is interested, email me off list and I will send digital photos and other specs. They are in Sharpsburg, GA, outside Atlanta. Bob Spruck From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri Feb 6 16:45:22 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:45:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content In-Reply-To: References: <958503.66657.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <417205.92195.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902050948t36e1f983s369a64f3cb63b94b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Adam Cartwright?> From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net> To: spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:53:25 -0600> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Palindrome+ (was Work for feeble minds & obligatory LBC content> > Ok, how many here got that reference??> > Lester> > .. I mean I did just figured you guys were too young..> > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Jim Johnson wrote:> > > Palindrome!! Sure! I remember him! All dressed in black with the > > rooks> > head on his holster....> >> > Oh! Wait... Or is that that concert hall in London, England? I > > can never> > keep those two straight...> >> > Cheers> > Mij> > Jim> > "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong > > enough> > to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson> > ________________________________________> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 16:46:02 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:46:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902061531g21d0b8dao57127c564dc24d67@mail.gmail.com> References: <164073bc0902060651l20e62574v6d1b1cd7f6de71ba@mail.gmail.com> <09ae01c9886f$bc687700$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902060958h19747d38gf27eccc45b6dabc4@mail.gmail.com> <0a0f01c98892$6ba0c1b0$1801010a@xp> <43840a7e0902061248n48298711s3ad2e3adfc5397eb@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910902061309y3a111b99nb0fe8530a57a9a1e@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0902061411h48b31393v20b963ec333d287b@mail.gmail.com> <5f00d9910902061531g21d0b8dao57127c564dc24d67@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902061546t3e55023am400bc42460bd7fb3@mail.gmail.com> http://www.lead411.com/company_eBayInc_Axelrod_2287.html I guess its just easier to whine than to try to find contact numbers so... Here. I've done it for you now stop whining. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:31 PM, derf wrote: > No, you found some info. But the hidden things are phone numbers and > actual humans that can help with problems. From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Feb 6 16:49:41 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:49:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] caution RE: No LBC, I Know My Rights In-Reply-To: <207509.6337.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090206234943.NYYX3675.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Be aware there is some nasty spyware from these sites. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of fastvee Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:17 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Ed's Shop Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, I Know My Rights Sorry, don't know how that cut&paste operation went wrong. Thanks Ed, let me try again. John http://tinyurl.com/awwt8l http://tinyurl.com/9c5owu http://tinyurl.com/cwyj5f --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Ed's Shop wrote: From dwramsey at att.net Fri Feb 6 16:51:17 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 15:51:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902061546t3e55023am400bc42460bd7fb3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090206235139.065881878CC@autox.team.net> Let's see they all have the same number. Any chance of talking to a real person, nope just voice mail. Crash http://www.lead411.com/company_eBayInc_Axelrod_2287.html I guess its just easier to whine than to try to find contact numbers so... Here. I've done it for you now stop whining. Cheers!! Jim From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 16:59:34 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:59:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <498cccf8.1c048e0a.582b.ffffed12SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> References: <43840a7e0902061546t3e55023am400bc42460bd7fb3@mail.gmail.com> <498cccf8.1c048e0a.582b.ffffed12SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902061559x797b6aa1u75bfeea256306d0e@mail.gmail.com> Geez! They have 5,000 employees and millions of customers. What do you expect? You want the CEO to answer each and every phone call that comes in? Get real! You leave a voice mail and if your problem isn't something silly a$$, they call you back. Try calling the CEO of any company this size and see how far you get! If you had called the number you would find out that there is a dial by name function which will connect you with the extension of the person you want. All you guys want to do is pi$$ and moan. Go work on your damned car! Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:51 PM, David Ramsey wrote: > Let's see they all have the same number. Any chance of talking to a real > person, nope just voice mail. > Crash > > http://www.lead411.com/company_eBayInc_Axelrod_2287.html > > I guess its just easier to whine than to try to find contact numbers so... > Here. I've done it for you now stop whining. > > Cheers!! > Jim From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 17:05:32 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:05:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902061559x797b6aa1u75bfeea256306d0e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0902061546t3e55023am400bc42460bd7fb3@mail.gmail.com> <498cccf8.1c048e0a.582b.ffffed12SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <43840a7e0902061559x797b6aa1u75bfeea256306d0e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902061605x18615b7dm7c53c865fbf2e149@mail.gmail.com> > All you guys want to do is pi$$ and moan. Go work on your damned car! > But, since I got the Miata, I don't need to work on the car anymore. From wbmcleod at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 17:15:48 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:15:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902061559x797b6aa1u75bfeea256306d0e@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0902061546t3e55023am400bc42460bd7fb3@mail.gmail.com> <498cccf8.1c048e0a.582b.ffffed12SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <43840a7e0902061559x797b6aa1u75bfeea256306d0e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <80997850-C31E-44FF-8091-5405B44BD470@gmail.com> Short story for Mr. Johnson: A few days ago I got an email from someone supposedly in Paypal security, saying they had tried to call my number and had blocked my Paypal debit card and would I call this number.... Went online. Nope, not paypal's number. Sent the raw source email off to spoof at paypal.com. Later went to the P.O. and found my card refused. Went home, called customer service. Long hold, big runaround, got an agent. Couldn't find any problem. Please call security at xxx-xxxx. Yup, same number as on the email. More hold, got an agent. Wanted my card number. I said no. He couldn't find me anywhere in the system, and I finally caved and gave the card number. Yes, they blocked my card. They had tried to call my phone no. from 5 years ago. Had no current info. Got it all squared away, chewed on his ear, hung up. Got an email from Paypal spoof the next day saying the email, which had turned out to be real, was indeed a spoof, and they would track it down! Paypal shows none of the signs of a well-run company! Bill Tucson Try www.paypalsucks.com On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > All you guys want to do is pi$$ and moan. Go work on your damned car! > > >> Let's see they all have the same number. Any chance of talking to a >> real >> person, nope just voice mail. >> Crash From dwramsey at att.net Fri Feb 6 18:56:13 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:56:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902061559x797b6aa1u75bfeea256306d0e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090207015635.2AB29187678@autox.team.net> Actually I use a couple of different ways to get by the customers walls. First is to take their number and try calling the next couple after it like if it ends in 7200 call 7201. The next is a little better. I leave a voice mail saying I'm Tiger Woods wondering if you would like to make up a 4 some with me and Bill Gates at Pebble Beach this weekend, call me back at? Or this is me at the motor home dealer confirming that your driver has picked up the new one you charged to your mastercard. The best if you get a real person is, this is Dr. So and So at the Aids clinic calling to let your boss know that his test was positive and we need to speak to him as soon as possible. Crash . Try calling the CEO of any company this size and see how far you get! If you had called the number you would find out that there is a dial by name function which will connect you with the extension of the person you want. All you guys want to do is pi$$ and moan. Go work on your damned car! Cheers!! Jim From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 6 20:01:03 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:01:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <498CF96F.3000905@sbcglobal.net> Many companies don't make it easy, but it is possible to talk to a human. http://www.gethuman.com/ Lee From davriker at nwi.net Fri Feb 6 20:09:02 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 19:09:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New truck is LEGAL! References: <189779879050407A8317C0189118EAA4@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <75099AA88BDC4718854A0089BD30AAA9@MAIN> In California, any pickup with a permanantly attatched shell can be licensed as a passenger vehicle. If you remove the shell, the CHP will ticket you for having the wrong plates. Dave R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kitterer Bob" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New truck is LEGAL! > Hello Glen, > > The truck looks great. > > I still had my Morris pickup when the DMV made the rule change. It > use to be that the vehicle had to weigh 3,000 lbs before it was even > considered for commercial plates. Then came all the little Japanese > pickups that business were using as delivery trucks but with > passenger car plates - under the weight requirement - but with the > business name on the side, parking in commercial parking and such. > When I got the renewal registration with additional fees and > commercial class made a trip to the DMV. Conversation went something > like this: > > Me: Why did I get a commercial registration? > > DMV: It is a pickup. > > Me: So every pickup regardless of use has to have commercial plates? > > DMV: Yes > > Me: So now I can park in commercial parking zones? > > DMV: No, you are not a business. > > Me: I can deduct the cost of the truck off my income tax. > > DMV: No you are not a business. > > Me: Then I do not need commercial plates. > > DMV: Yes it is a pickup. > > Have not check lately but for a while you could get passenger plates > for a pickup but you could not carry anything in the bed that was not > "incidental" to the passengers; groceries and luggage. > > At the same time I had a Ford Club Wagon (window van) that had > passenger plates and had been registered as a station wagon. Like > station wagons you could haul anything. > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > > > > > On Feb 5, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Glen Byrns wrote: >> He also told me that my >> little toy is a commercial vehicle because of its flatbed and would >> need a >> weight certificate. It took half the morning to find a place that >> could weigh >> it and issue a DMV-acceptable certificate. (1500lbs, before you ask) >> >> Glen Byrns >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1937 - Release Date: 01/31/09 20:03:00 From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Feb 6 20:20:03 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:20:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega Wheels References: <200902060139.n161d2x8027399@musca.ucdavis.edu><205cef430902051802k61bef42el5803d071ef14e3ba@mail.gmail.com><7E5FD85A604F400AB50719CEA2045C38@blackbox2><205cef430902060712q155adaa8t8fff523dfc80c9f0@mail.gmail.com> <62C6523432B14F828C4A5EF2484E9178@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <2D354305553C480E978FE2C07ABD35FA@blackbox2> Not sure if mine were 6" Dave. But they were steel and had the square holes going around the perimeter. I definitley remember that I had to use the spacers because the hole would hit the fillet radius on the center of the front hubs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" > > The steel 6" Vega GT rims that I use for autocross (yes, Chris, they do > resemble RO-Styles) have no apparent modifications to the center hole and > fit fine without any spacers. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 6 21:44:30 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:44:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal References: <20090207015635.2AB29187678@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <03D71B64AB78483691056C0BD067C5A5@Larry> The best if you get a real person is, this is Dr. So and So at the Aids clinic calling to let your boss know that his test was positive and we need to speak to him as soon as possible. Crash ============================= Guaranteed to make his lawyer giggle and your lawyer cringe. From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri Feb 6 21:58:27 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:58:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal References: <20090207015635.2AB29187678@autox.team.net> <03D71B64AB78483691056C0BD067C5A5@Larry> Message-ID: <9841F0B3ADE24AE08ACE345F21825262@Dell9200> I had a neighbor a few years ago that had just been promoted to VP of a large Nashville bank. I called him to arrange for a tee time for our afternoon outing. His new secretary was giving me a really hard time and wouldn't let me talk to him no matter what I said to her. Finally I told her that this call was regarding a sensitive and personal issue, then she said "may I tell him what this is in regard to"! The second here last question left her lips I told her I was representing a young lady and her paternity suit against Mr. X. She then exhausted most of her hot air and put me right through. I didn't say anything to my neighbor about my methods for about a week but it was too late, bank legal had already offered their assistance with the "sensitive issue". It took months to undo the rumors and I had to buy drinks for the next year. Mark Nashville http://www.arrestmered.com The best if you get a real person is, this is Dr. So and So at the Aids clinic calling to let your boss know that his test was positive and we need to speak to him as soon as possible. Crash From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Fri Feb 6 22:30:58 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 21:30:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Vega Wheels Message-ID: <200902070530.n175UwnH017899@phaenicia.ucdavis.edu> I found that the rub was at the bulge of the rear axle center. I relieved the radius of the wheels a bit with an angle grinder until they cleared. The front has spridget disc brake hubs, but didn't foul at all. Glen > Not sure if mine were 6" Dave. > But they were steel and had the square holes going around the perimeter. > I definitley remember that I had to use the spacers because the hole > would > hit the fillet radius on the center of the front hubs. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 7 07:12:39 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 08:12:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal References: <498CF96F.3000905@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: > Many companies don't make it easy, but it is possible to talk to a human. You can talk to a dog, too. Does about as much good... From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sat Feb 7 07:21:30 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:21:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Saturday morning classifieds Message-ID: Hey list, Here are some midgets from GRM. Three MG Midgets for sale in Franklin, KY for $750. http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/2008-classifieds/mg-midgets-for-sale/ 7070/page1/ Parts http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/forum/2008-classifieds/mg-midget-parts/6986 /page1/ Racecar http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/classifieds/430/ Drew From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sat Feb 7 07:27:13 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:27:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] caution RE: No LBC, I Know My Rights In-Reply-To: <20090206234943.NYYX3675.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> References: <207509.6337.qm@web34407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090206234943.NYYX3675.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> Message-ID: <42506AE051494738926C73F58FF90548@AndrewHP> The tinyurl makes the internet STDs a lot easier to catch. Makes all links blind. Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Manuel Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:50 PM To: 'fastvee'; spridgets at autox.team.net; 'Ed'sShop' Subject: [Spridgets] caution RE: No LBC, I Know My Rights Be aware there is some nasty spyware from these sites. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of fastvee Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 3:17 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net; Ed's Shop Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No LBC, I Know My Rights Sorry, don't know how that cut&paste operation went wrong. Thanks Ed, let me try again. John http://tinyurl.com/awwt8l http://tinyurl.com/9c5owu http://tinyurl.com/cwyj5f From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Feb 7 07:39:52 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:39:52 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Saturday morning classifieds Message-ID: In a message dated 2/7/2009 9:21:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, andrewpayne at intrex.net writes: _http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/classifieds/430/_ (http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/classifieds/430/) Definitely worth the trip to Franklin, KY. to see these two rare RWA 1970 Midgets. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA, **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 7 08:31:59 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:31:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal References: <498CF96F.3000905@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <39F1655B3DC84C7795C73FD805C724A9@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "S pridgets" Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal > Many companies don't make it easy, but it is possible to talk to a human. You can talk to a dog, too. Does about as much good... _______________________________________________ Tiny Dog! What is he saying? From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 7 08:36:54 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:36:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal References: <498CF96F.3000905@sbcglobal.net> <39F1655B3DC84C7795C73FD805C724A9@Larry> Message-ID: >> Many companies don't make it easy, but it is possible to talk to a human. > > You can talk to a dog, too. Does about as much good... > _______________________________________________ > > Tiny Dog! What is he saying? OK OK OK, I will re-phrase it! You can talk to a cat, too. It doesn't even matter whether you do it before or after it has failed as a wheel chock... From tinydog at snet.net Sat Feb 7 11:32:25 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:32:25 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <39F1655B3DC84C7795C73FD805C724A9@Larry> References: <498CF96F.3000905@sbcglobal.net> <39F1655B3DC84C7795C73FD805C724A9@Larry> Message-ID: <020720091832.5012.498DD3B90008ED9A0000139422230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog interpreted: Either this means he considers dogs and humans as equals, or He has spoken to me on a customer service line and didn't like my response. I actually worked for PayPal for about 2 years and am now developing a new service called PetPal. -------------- Original message from "Larry Daniels" : -------------- > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "S pridgets" > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:12 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal > > > You can talk to a dog, too. Does about as much good... > _______________________________________________ > > Tiny Dog! What is he saying? > _______________________________________________ From frog.aye at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 11:59:06 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 10:59:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <020720091832.5012.498DD3B90008ED9A0000139422230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <498CF96F.3000905@sbcglobal.net> <39F1655B3DC84C7795C73FD805C724A9@Larry> <020720091832.5012.498DD3B90008ED9A0000139422230650029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <4333f8140902071059j17e5bcb7ybd1bba98fc6551a1@mail.gmail.com> While I am just working out the final details for my new service PAYPET. Anybody out there got some venture capital? Hal On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:32 AM, wrote: > tinydog interpreted: > > Either this means he considers dogs and humans as equals, > or > He has spoken to me on a customer service line and didn't like my response. > > I actually worked for PayPal for about 2 years and am now developing a new > service called PetPal. > > -------------- Original message from "Larry Daniels" < > ladaniels at sbcglobal.net>: -------------- > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Lieb" > > To: "S pridgets" > > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal > > > > > > You can talk to a dog, too. Does about as much good... > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Tiny Dog! What is he saying? > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Sat Feb 7 12:47:59 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:47:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902071059j17e5bcb7ybd1bba98fc6551a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Can't believe you DARED to ask, Hal. Peter From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Feb 7 12:51:37 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:51:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Newspaper article Message-ID: <498DE649.7020105@comcast.net> http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009902070316 or: *http://tinyurl.com/d9y6sr ** and for more pics * http://tinyurl.com/cy2vcu -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tnhotairpilot at comcast.net Sat Feb 7 13:08:40 2009 From: tnhotairpilot at comcast.net (Hank Beck) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:08:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1973 Midget on Craigslist Message-ID: <20090207200903.8EB56187933@autox.team.net> I have my 1973 MG Midget on Craigslist. Please check it out. http://chattanooga.craigslist.org/cto/1023224676.html Thanks, Hank From leavcast at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 13:45:47 2009 From: leavcast at gmail.com (George) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 13:45:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing References: <6186A58FDAC14153B32424F58E8878BC@Home> Message-ID: Speaking of trailers.....I know drive it!..... I am in the market for a trailer for my BE and my AH 100-4. For now only the frame of the 100 will be on it. I want to pull it with my V6 4Runner. Any suggestions as to what I should look for? George Castleberry Flagstaff, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:41 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Flat towing >I know that some of you have flat-towed Spridgets without problems. But I >have some reports cautioning against flat-towing, one mentioning whipping >problems, another mentioning weakness in the frame extensions holding the >bumper mounts. > > What are the good and bad experiences with flat-towing long distances at > highway speeds? > > Michael Rowe > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as leavcast at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Feb 7 15:10:22 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:10:22 EST Subject: [Spridgets] ARP Re: Ebay and paypal Message-ID: Well, ARP bolts are different. I rang to complain without saying what my complaint was and got put through to Mr H himself after asking to speak to the most senior person I could complain to. My complaint was about their not replying to my messages!. He was as good as his word too. Regards Weslake-Monza1330 In a message dated 07/02/2009 01:56:29 GMT Standard Time, dwramsey at att.net writes: Try calling the CEO of any company this size and see how far you get! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 15:16:04 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:16:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Great uses of old wheels Message-ID: http://www.fropki.com/auto-rims-sculptures-vt32647.html -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Feb 7 15:17:07 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:17:07 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain Message-ID: It's pretty pathetic if you saw how little snow was involved. I've soon more snow as a kid cause less problems. Still I got to work all week (I always walk to the train station) and the train was on time except for that one day it was early. The real problem is that everyone from the schools to the dustmen are worried about being sued because they have no real grasp of a risk assessment or an acceptable risk. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 06/02/2009 18:03:41 GMT Standard Time, robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/06/britain-weather.html From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Feb 7 15:27:25 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:27:25 EST Subject: [Spridgets] I have seen it all now Message-ID: I think I'd rather spend my money on wheels that didn't need such larger weights! Don't know about the US but over here the weights are no longer lead but zinc. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 05/02/2009 23:28:36 GMT Standard Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: *Not bad for under $17 shipped. http://preview.tinyurl.com/b5as5p* -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 16:00:22 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:00:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Newspaper article In-Reply-To: <498DE649.7020105@comcast.net> References: <498DE649.7020105@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902071500ld030eedlbf20fd16978bf938@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Frank! I'll archive this article and pictures from the Sprite-MidgetClub.org website. Hey John... Sprite - Midget Club USA is doing a 50th anniversary celebration for the MG Midget. Wanna come? Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009902070316 > or: > *http://tinyurl.com/d9y6sr ** > and for more pics > * > > http://tinyurl.com/cy2vcu From b-evans at earthlink.net Sat Feb 7 16:30:05 2009 From: b-evans at earthlink.net (Robert Evans) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:30:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Newspaper article In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902071500ld030eedlbf20fd16978bf938@mail.gmail.com> References: <498DE649.7020105@comcast.net> <43840a7e0902071500ld030eedlbf20fd16978bf938@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <006701c9897c$02551450$06ff3cf0$@net> Jim. Did you, perchance, see the letters (in 2 parts) that I wrote to the paper. I swear, I was ready to go back there and rip the fucking heart out of a son-of-a-bitch or two! To denigrate a priest and the good people who worked on the project with love and affection, it seems to me, to be symptomatic of too much of what is happening in America today. I am angry, to say the least! Fortunately, it was all for a good cause! Buster From: Jim Johnson [mailto:bmwwxman at gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 3:00 PM To: Frank Clarici Cc: Buster Evans; Spridgets; John Sprinzel; Dave Jacquemot Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Newspaper article Thanks, Frank! I'll archive this article and pictures from the Sprite-MidgetClub.org website. Hey John... Sprite - Midget Club USA is doing a 50th anniversary celebration for the MG Midget. Wanna come? Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009902070316 or: *http://tinyurl.com/d9y6sr ** and for more pics * http://tinyurl.com/cy2vcu From grday at btinternet.com Sat Feb 7 16:30:52 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:30:52 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain References: Message-ID: <9DA6D0FDECB84CD781D17A752E25DFA2@dell330> I fully echo Weslake-Monza 1330's comments but would add the current standard of UK driving in snow is puerile, pathetic and pretty abysmal. It generally consists of revving the engine and spinning the wheels as fast as possible, turning off the ESP (or whatever your manufacturer wishes to call it) and believing that braking and steering are as good as in the dry. Government advice doesn't even mention winter grade tyres, studs or chains. They produce a 16 page booklet that contains 5 pages of promulgating themselves as being wonderful people. AND, if you are not careful I'll say it like it really is!! [smile] Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain > It's pretty pathetic if you saw how little snow was involved. I've soon > more snow as a kid cause less problems. Still I got to work all week (I > always > walk to the train station) and the train was on time except for that one > day > it was early. > > The real problem is that everyone from the schools to the dustmen are > worried about being sued because they have no real grasp of a risk > assessment or an > acceptable risk. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > In a message dated 06/02/2009 18:03:41 GMT Standard Time, > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/06/britain-weather.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Feb 7 16:47:45 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 15:47:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Newspaper article In-Reply-To: <006701c9897c$02551450$06ff3cf0$@net> References: <498DE649.7020105@comcast.net>, <43840a7e0902071500ld030eedlbf20fd16978bf938@mail.gmail.com>, <006701c9897c$02551450$06ff3cf0$@net> Message-ID: <498DAD21.21804.1B5A2DC@kk7ss.verizon.net> Buster, I read three pages of comments... You'll notice that most of the denighrating comments were made by a very few "what about poor little me" types... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Feb 7 16:50:52 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:50:52 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain Message-ID: When I was a kid only old folk drove like that but now nearly everyone does... Wait till the grit runs out. In a message dated 07/02/2009 23:30:26 GMT Standard Time, grday at btinternet.com writes: standard of UK driving in snow is puerile, pathetic and pretty abysmal. It generally consists of revving the engine and spinning the wheels as fast as possible, From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 17:05:23 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 18:05:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0902071605n3dbe67d6p9cc108960e6ff6aa@mail.gmail.com> If you want a real thrill watch a bunch of Hispanics and Asians trying to drive in it. Around here we have learned to not even venture out when it snows. I even move my vehicles from being parked on the street. I've had several of them run into by performers from the Mexican Ice Capades. Its a crash a minute around here! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:50 PM, wrote: > When I was a kid only old folk drove like that but now nearly everyone > does... Wait till the grit runs out. > > In a message dated 07/02/2009 23:30:26 GMT Standard Time, > grday at btinternet.com writes: > > standard of UK driving in snow is puerile, pathetic and pretty abysmal. > It > generally consists of revving the engine and spinning the wheels as fast > as > possible, > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Feb 7 18:06:38 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:06:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] My congressman, NLBC Message-ID: <319488.66384.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I've met him at work a few times, as he likes to come buy and see our manufacturing, he's a really good guy. This clip is precious - why can't they all be like this? For the record we've added real jobs the last 5 years, including another 3% last week. We employ crazy HR strategies like treating people like human beings and actually building stuff ourselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP73cK3GXdo THanks to Buster for sending it to me. Ron From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 18:07:59 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:07:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The Da Vinci Code LBC content Message-ID: I just finished watching the Da Vinci Code on TNT. Near the end of the movie, when the Priory reveal themselves to Robert Langdon and Sophie, the following scene shows Langdon outside along a wall looking thoughtful. Sophie walks up to him with a blanket over her shoulders. When the camera cuts to the shot of the two of them talking, there is the back end of a Morris Traveler (blue IIRC) in the background, behind Langdon. No further shots of the parking lot reveal more of the car, just those few seconds. No other LBC's noticed, but I figured I'd mention it. -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Sat Feb 7 18:29:05 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:29:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: <9DA6D0FDECB84CD781D17A752E25DFA2@dell330> Message-ID: <<...and believing that braking and steering are as good as in the dry.>> Guy & folks, that ain't HALF of it around me!! My town of 14,750 folks has at last count 17 H-1 Hummers, 38 H-3s, and numbers out the roof for Navigators, Explorers, Suburbans, etc.!! (Majority of cops are personal friends including ALL the 'white shirts' and tell me this kinda stuff - LOL.) To a vehicle/driver, all the "drivers" KNOW and I repeat KNOW that 4-wheel drive AND All Wheel Drive MEANS that 4wd also MEANS 4w BRAKING (yeah, all cars have brakes at all corners but they think 4WD means their brakes are doubled when IN 4wd)!!! It continues to amaze me (AND all the cops) not only the number of STUCK vehicles but the crashes due to over-driving (and the above 'belief') !!!! It was EASIER and SAFER driving in Washington, D.C. both in my personal car and in the ambulances (emg. and non-emg) than it is here in my TINY burg!!! David L., your $ 1.00 ?!?!?!? (Note: He is about 20 miles NNNE of me) Grasshopper, your feelings ?? (he is about 90 miles NNW of me.) PPP???? (he is about 125 miles NNW of me.) From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Feb 7 18:43:39 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 17:43:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <294974.71252.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Ed's Shop wrote: > Grasshopper, your feelings ?? > (he is about 90 miles NNW of me.) I actually think the people around here do a great job of winter driving. I'm amazed at the low number of incidents. I spoke to Frank a few weeks ago and he asked why I'm not driving the Alfa. Having grown up on on the east coast in climate tempered by the ocean, I know where he's coming from - it's wayyyyyyyyyy different here in the upper Midwest. There's snow on the road constantly for 4 months (well, not today - it was 54F!). If there's no snow, there's black ice (that's when I see the real carnage, and I have hit it at 10 MPH and gone for many hundreds of yards without any control). Here, it's not like it snows and the road is cleared until next time. There's ALWAYS snow and slop on the road. I think maybe that's why people are decent drivers in it. And, I must admit, I have come to adore my wife's Subaru Tribeca in the snow. It's AWD and tracking control system is mind-blowing. The winter package with heated seats, mirrors, wiper fluid and wipers(!) is awesome. Ron From shop at justbrits.com Sat Feb 7 18:48:50 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:48:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: <294974.71252.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> $5.00 says that's the REAL reason, Ron !!!! LMAO (and WISHING the Camino had it)!!!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 7 18:59:07 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:59:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain References: <294974.71252.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > I have come to adore my wife's Subaru Tribeca in the snow. Tribeca? Isn't that the car that frightened Richard Hammond's kids??? Up by Ron the people seem to handle the snow better than here. By me it is similar to what ED reports. When it snows, the municipal vehicles are out there salting and scraping until they have dug great chunks out of the road surface (then they blame the road condition on the "freeze/thaw cycle"). I agree that the 4wd people seem to think that, since they launch better than 2wd, they MUST be able to stop better, too. Likewise, they do not realize that a vehicle that handles lousy on a dry road REALLY handles horribly in adverse traction conditions. I drive a 2002 VW GTi VR6 as a daily driver. Clutch, handbrake, snow tires and a car that goes where you point it . . . A great snow car for the local conditions IMHO. Every year we get to watch people learn how to drive in the snow all over again. Oh yes, as Tom Bodett once said, "4WD means that when YOU get stuck, NO ONE is going to 'happen by' and help you out." David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Feb 7 19:06:56 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:06:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <498E3E40.5040904@comcast.net> WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > When I was a kid only old folk drove like that but now nearly everyone > does... So now you are an old folk Daniel :) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 19:31:14 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:31:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: <294974.71252.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <294974.71252.qm@web30507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902071831o559d6398mca6682b778dc6811@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > heated seats, mirrors, wiper fluid and wipers(!) What a Wussie!! -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 19:56:07 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:56:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: <80997850-C31E-44FF-8091-5405B44BD470@gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0902061546t3e55023am400bc42460bd7fb3@mail.gmail.com> <498cccf8.1c048e0a.582b.ffffed12SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <43840a7e0902061559x797b6aa1u75bfeea256306d0e@mail.gmail.com> <80997850-C31E-44FF-8091-5405B44BD470@gmail.com> Message-ID: O-SHIT, you are gonna piss Jim off seriously now!! LOL On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:15 PM, William McLeod wrote: > Short story for Mr. Johnson: A few days ago I got an email from > someone supposedly in Paypal security, saying they had tried to call > my number and had blocked my Paypal debit card and would I call this > number.... Went online. Nope, not paypal's number. Sent the raw > source email off to spoof at paypal.com. Later went to the P.O. and > found my card refused. Went home, called customer service. Long > hold, big runaround, got an agent. Couldn't find any problem. Please > call security at xxx-xxxx. Yup, same number as on the email. More > hold, got an agent. Wanted my card number. I said no. He couldn't > find me anywhere in the system, and I finally caved and gave the card > number. Yes, they blocked my card. They had tried to call my phone > no. from 5 years ago. Had no current info. Got it all squared away, > chewed on his ear, hung up. Got an email from Paypal spoof the next > day saying the email, which had turned out to be real, was indeed a > spoof, and they would track it down! > Paypal shows none of the signs of a well-run company! > > Bill > Tucson > > Try www.paypalsucks.com > > On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > > > > > All you guys want to do is pi$$ and moan. Go work on your damned car! > > > > > >> Let's see they all have the same number. Any chance of talking to a > >> real > >> person, nope just voice mail. > >> Crash > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 20:01:16 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:01:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay and paypal In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0902061546t3e55023am400bc42460bd7fb3@mail.gmail.com> <498cccf8.1c048e0a.582b.ffffed12SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.google.com> <43840a7e0902061559x797b6aa1u75bfeea256306d0e@mail.gmail.com> <80997850-C31E-44FF-8091-5405B44BD470@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902071901v6f91a7b8y8db5ca90943e40c8@mail.gmail.com> Naw. The light finally dawned on me. Its LBC hibernation season and Dubya is no longer in office... These guys gotta have *something* to pi$$ and moan about..... It's PayPal/Ebay's day in the barrel. Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > O-SHIT, you are gonna piss Jim off seriously now!! > > LOL > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 6:15 PM, William McLeod wrote: > >> Short story for Mr. Johnson: A few days ago I got an email from >> someone supposedly in Paypal security, saying they had tried to call >> my number and had blocked my Paypal debit card and would I call this >> number.... Went online. Nope, not paypal's number. Sent the raw >> source email off to spoof at paypal.com. Later went to the P.O. and >> found my card refused. Went home, called customer service. Long >> hold, big runaround, got an agent. Couldn't find any problem. Please >> call security at xxx-xxxx. Yup, same number as on the email. More >> hold, got an agent. Wanted my card number. I said no. He couldn't >> find me anywhere in the system, and I finally caved and gave the card >> number. Yes, they blocked my card. They had tried to call my phone >> no. from 5 years ago. Had no current info. Got it all squared away, >> chewed on his ear, hung up. Got an email from Paypal spoof the next >> day saying the email, which had turned out to be real, was indeed a >> spoof, and they would track it down! >> Paypal shows none of the signs of a well-run company! >> >> Bill >> Tucson >> >> Try www.paypalsucks.com >> >> On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: >> >> > >> > All you guys want to do is pi$$ and moan. Go work on your damned car! >> > >> > >> >> Let's see they all have the same number. Any chance of talking to a >> >> real >> >> person, nope just voice mail. >> >> Crash >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat Feb 7 20:06:58 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:06:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain Message-ID: <0e2901c9899a$4e456770$0168010a@mail2world.com> I found out in the recent snow here that 4WD on my Ranger won't engage. Driving a 4x4 in the snow when you've only got 2wd is VERY entertaining! :) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] >Sent: 2/7/2009 9:00:07 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain > >> I have come to adore my wife's Subaru Tribeca in the snow. > > >Oh yes, as Tom Bodett once said, "4WD means that when YOU get stuck, NO ONE >is going to 'happen by' and help you out." >David Lieb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 20:15:56 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:15:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NASCAR News In-Reply-To: <498E4D9D.4040104@starrtech.net> References: <498E4D9D.4040104@starrtech.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902071915t460b1c66ued67ce5e4256346d@mail.gmail.com> Jeff Gordon fires entire pit crew! This announcement followed Gordon's decision to take advantage of the government's scheme to employ Harlem youngsters.The decision to hire them was brought about by a recent documentary on how unemployed youths from Harlem were able to remove a set of wheels in less than 6 seconds without proper equipment, whereas Gordon's exist ing crew could only do it in 8 seconds with millions of dollars worth of high tech equipment. It was thought to be an excellent and bold move by Gordon's management team as most races are won or lost in the pits. However-Gordon got more than he bargained for At the crew's first practice session, not only was the inexperienced crew able to change all 4 wheels in under 6 seconds, but within 12 seconds they had changed the paint scheme, altered the Vin number, and sold the car to Dale Jr. for 10 cases of Bud, a bag of weed, and some photos of Jeff Gordon's wife in the shower. From shop at justbrits.com Sat Feb 7 20:44:37 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 21:44:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: <0e2901c9899a$4e456770$0168010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <> Ah, poor Chris!!! I've been driving Caminos for 40ish YEARS and I am not 'entertained' nor have I been stuck. Wuss 'Hopper (Oh wait, guess I gave it away above!!!) From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Feb 7 20:57:11 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 19:57:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <272859.26610.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 2/7/09, David Lieb wrote: > vehicle that handles lousy on a dry road REALLY handles > horribly in adverse traction conditions. I drive a 2002 VW I drove an AWD 328 today. Pretty much perfect handling in the dry, now-shitstained salesman aside (you have to disable some stuff to get it to drift, but it can be done). I can only imagine in the snow. I have not liked a new car like I like this one since I was 18. If only.... Ron From shop at justbrits.com Sat Feb 7 21:23:34 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 22:23:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NASCAR News In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902071915t460b1c66ued67ce5e4256346d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> OLDER than even you are, Jim !!!! Com'n, come up with NEWER 'material' !!! From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Feb 7 21:34:13 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 20:34:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Women Driver(s) Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902072034n35b1e0du763eaa08e1126051@mail.gmail.com> If you've not seen it.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtBxhFc24A From kgb at frontiernet.net Sat Feb 7 22:04:40 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:04:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: <0e2901c9899a$4e456770$0168010a@mail2world.com> References: <0e2901c9899a$4e456770$0168010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <498E67E8.6000308@frontiernet.net> No different than any other RWD vehicle. I had planned to fix the 4WD in my Cherokee last summer, but decided it would be more entertaining to break my back instead. I've driven all winter in a 2WD Jeep with no problems whatsoever. Kate Chris King wrote: > I found out in the recent snow here that 4WD on my Ranger won't engage. > Driving a 4x4 in the snow when you've only got 2wd is VERY entertaining! > :) From conan at intrex.net Sat Feb 7 22:41:13 2009 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 00:41:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Vega Wheels Message-ID: <200902080041.AA1152057582@intrex.net> If you want to ride down to North Carolina, I have some Vega GT wheels sitting in my shed. :-) Ed in NC From shop at justbrits.com Sun Feb 8 06:07:12 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:07:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Women Driver(s) In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10902072034n35b1e0du763eaa08e1126051@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Better YET, Herb.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tnzwSoDHpg&NR=1 From shop at justbrits.com Sun Feb 8 06:24:45 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:24:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <<...snow tires...>> er, WHAT are those David???? I've only had 'All Season' ones for... er, can't remember the last time I had the sort of tyres (LBC content) you mention!?!?!? Moi From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Feb 8 06:30:33 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:30:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain Message-ID: <65dc01c989f1$6b160a60$0168010a@mail2world.com> Well, the extra 4x4 weight up front doesn't help the rear get traction! :) OTOH, "drifting" at 15mph is entertaining! Never had this type of fun with my wife's BMW. Much more balanced vehicle. Easy to drive in the snow, even with an open diff. But for real fun, I like my wife's new WRX :) :) :) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Ed's Shop [shop at justbrits.com] >Sent: 2/7/2009 10:46:37 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain > ><entertaining!>> > >Ah, poor Chris!!! > >I've been driving Caminos for 40ish YEARS and I am not >'entertained' nor have I been stuck. > >Wuss > >'Hopper (Oh wait, guess I gave it away above!!!) >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From shop at justbrits.com Sun Feb 8 06:47:52 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 07:47:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: <65dc01c989f1$6b160a60$0168010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <> I HAVE 'played' TWICE in the snow (virgin - NO salt) in my Big Healey and THAT was a BLAST, Chris !!!! "Amber" is a bit of a handful with SLOW steering for 'playing'!!! 'Might' be the just shy of 600BHP at rear wheels tho. And YES, the $4/gal was KILLING my wallet!!! From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sun Feb 8 07:42:29 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:42:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: References: <9DA6D0FDECB84CD781D17A752E25DFA2@dell330> Message-ID: <577D3A495626485885DF9E40078EE20F@AndrewHP> In high school I used to throw a tow strap in the Midget, put the top down and crank the heat, then head out to pull flatlanders in 4x4s out of ditches. It was both kind and rude. I would always tell them if it's too snowy for you to get there in 2wd stay at the hotel. I could have gotten in their cars and driven them out, or pulled them out with my Saab or the family Wagoneer, but where is the lesson in that? Drew ---- To a vehicle/driver, all the "drivers" KNOW and I repeat KNOW that 4-wheel drive AND All Wheel Drive MEANS that 4wd also MEANS 4w BRAKING (yeah, all cars have brakes at all corners but they think 4WD means their brakes are doubled when IN 4wd)!!! It continues to amaze me (AND all the cops) not only the number of STUCK vehicles but the crashes due to over-driving (and the above 'belief') !!!! From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Feb 8 10:12:15 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:12:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: <0e2901c9899a$4e456770$0168010a@mail2world.com> References: <0e2901c9899a$4e456770$0168010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <498F126F.5080804@gmail.com> I had the same syndrome on my F150. The auto hubs were fubar. Of course I could not get the last mile home up the mountain. I replaced the auto hubs with a set of Mile Marker manual hubs. Best $80 I spent in a while. -g Chris King wrote: I found out in the recent snow here that 4WD on my Ranger won't engage. Driving a 4x4 in the snow when you've only got 2wd is VERY entertaining! :) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: David Lieb [dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: 2/7/2009 9:00:07 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain I have come to adore my wife's Subaru Tribeca in the snow. Oh yes, as Tom Bodett once said, "4WD means that when YOU get stuck, NO ONE is going to 'happen by' and help you out." David Lieb You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wmgilroy at gmail.com Sun Feb 8 10:19:29 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:19:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <498F1421.50300@gmail.com> As much as everyone thinks they have the worst snow drivers that title is held by the Pacific NW drivers. I snows here and it is pure chaos. See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMzeiMJQrvk&feature=related This is pretty standard for out here. I have to second Ron's statements about Subaru's. My wife has an Outback; that thing is like a mountain goat. I have had no trouble with the mountains when I am driving the Outback. I live in a place when it snows about 50% of the people have to walk up the mountain in some snow storms. The Outback climbs like the road is dry. Stopping is like everyone else. -g WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > It's pretty pathetic if you saw how little snow was involved. I've soon > more snow as a kid cause less problems. Still I got to work all week (I always > walk to the train station) and the train was on time except for that one day > it was early. > > The real problem is that everyone from the schools to the dustmen are > worried about being sued because they have no real grasp of a risk assessment or an > acceptable risk. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > In a message dated 06/02/2009 18:03:41 GMT Standard Time, > robertduquette at sympatico.ca writes: > > http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/02/06/britain-weather.html > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Feb 8 10:19:31 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 12:19:31 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Women Driver(s) Message-ID: When I lived in Northampton some years ago the women over the road had a car and was a learner driver. One day she decided to move the car that was parked just outside her house to a space directly outside it. She managed to get the car onto the pavement (sidewalk?) and the more she tried to get it off the nearer it got to her front door (door opened directly onto the pavement (victorian terrace house)). At the point where she hung her head into hands I left my house where I'd been watching her and asked if she needed any help. She readily agreed and it took me something like 3 maneouvres to get off the pavement and into the parking space. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 08/02/2009 04:34:41 GMT Standard Time, froggi60 at gmail.com writes: If you've not seen it.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygtBxhFc24A From dwramsey at att.net Sun Feb 8 10:23:18 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:23:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090208172340.6789618765D@autox.team.net> Here we have a problem with Donner Pass on I-80. The last two times I drove my El Camino with studded snow tires over the pass, chains were required except 4WD with snow tires. Because of all season tires (the only kind you can buy around here) they require chains if there is 1" of snow at the top of the pass. I have three problems with this. First where they make you put on your chains the pavement has no snow, both times my chains broke before I got to the snow. So I put on the chains, go through inspection, drive a mile or so where they can't see me and take the chains off. The second problem is the 4WD's that don't need chains. The speed limit is 30 mph when chains are required, so they drive 60 until they hit the snow and start doing donuts and running off the road. Then they stand in the middle of the road and try to flag you down, the CHP and tow trucks won't go up there unless they close the road, why would I stop and put my life in danger? Usually the CHP waits until there are 8 or 10 in the ditches before they will close the road, big surprise they are all 4WDs. The third problem is in town, the mayor in his great wisdom has decided that only the main streets will be plowed until they are dry. So you have to chain up drive two blocks, remove the chains, and repeat the process to get home. Crash From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Feb 8 10:45:25 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:45:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Snow in Britain In-Reply-To: <498F1421.50300@gmail.com> References: <498F1421.50300@gmail.com> Message-ID: <498F1A35.5060404@frontiernet.net> After over 15 years of driving a bus in the PNW, I would have to agree with Gilroy. I commuted from 20 miles west of Eugene in my Midget for nearly 10 years. The road passed through the center of a large lake, and was almost always covered in black ice during the winter. I would be passed daily by 4WD vehicles that were actually going over the posted speed limit. I eventually passed them, upside down in the ditch. On days when people woke up to snow on the ground, it was actually almost civilized, as the people who were unable to drive on dry pavement usually would not even attempt to drive in the snow. Those that did wound up where they belonged, stuck off road, within a block or two of their home. What was truly terrifying, was when the snow started after all these people had already arrived at work. They were all determined to get their cars home, regardless of their driving ability. City streets were total gridlock from about 330 - 700PM. Some people were clever enough to install chains - on the rear wheels of their FWD mini vans. The main thing that makes PNW drivers dangerous, even under normally good driving conditions, is their total disregard for traffic control devices. You can expect at least four cars to go through every red light. A stop sign means to slow down, but only if it is convenient. A car in a right turn only lane is just as likely to turn left or go straight ahead as actually turn right, and the reverse is also true. Turn signal? What's that. What is even more frightening, is the knowledge that over 25% of Oregon motorists have neither a drivers license nor insurance. When their car is impounded, they just go out and buy another beater with a long time left on its stickers. Kate William M. Gilroy wrote: > As much as everyone thinks they have the worst snow drivers that title > is held by the Pacific NW drivers. I snows here and it is pure chaos. From thcollin at mtu.edu Sun Feb 8 10:51:43 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:51:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving in Snow Message-ID: <78mg19$5phl26@email.mtu.edu> I once lived on a private road, the first 800 feet of which was a 17% grade. You had to make a left hand turn onto the hill and there was a lake on the right. I owned a 1979 VW Rabbit that would make the hill most of the time, but I discovered that when I couldn't drive up the hill, I could often times BACK up the hill just fine. The combination of the gearing and engine weight shifted optimally over the wheels did the trick. My (short of stature) wife drove a Subaru Justy 4WD (laugh all you want) that was a snowmobile with a heater. This was along Lake Superior with much lake effect snow. Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Feb 8 12:35:44 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 13:35:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 9948 engine assembly help.. Message-ID: <182EF3CA-251C-4EBE-8D53-54D486BAB88E@comcast.net> Hi all, I am putting together my first 948. After a little tweaking I now have the crank pulley and the water pump pulley lining up and the cam nut torqued * BUT* I am now supposed to bend up the cam washer to lock the cam nut in place. The cam nut is supposed to fit into the keyway in the cam. My problem is simple: I have the key in the keyway so there is no room for the cam washer tab to fit into the keyway. I have secured it with locktite but I figured it's best to ask the experts, how do you suggest that I proceed? Thanks all, Lester From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Feb 8 13:46:56 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:46:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 9948 engine assembly help.. In-Reply-To: <182EF3CA-251C-4EBE-8D53-54D486BAB88E@comcast.net> References: <182EF3CA-251C-4EBE-8D53-54D486BAB88E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902081246o687f67e9u51d4491c694f9b20@mail.gmail.com> Hey Lester, Could you post a picture? Per your subject line - I've never seen a 9948cc engine!! Sounds like some kind of marine engine like the ones in the PT boats! ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Lester wrote: > Hi all, > > I am putting together my first 948. After a little tweaking I now > have the crank pulley and the water pump pulley lining up and the cam nut > torqued * BUT* I am now supposed to bend up the cam washer to lock the cam > nut in place. The cam nut is supposed to fit into the keyway in the cam. > My problem is simple: I have the key in the keyway so there is no room for > the cam washer tab to fit into the keyway. I have secured it with locktite > but I figured it's best to ask the experts, how do you suggest that I > proceed? > > Thanks all, > > Lester > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sun Feb 8 15:23:12 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:23:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 948 engine assembly help was ...9948 engine assembly help.. In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902081246o687f67e9u51d4491c694f9b20@mail.gmail.com> References: <182EF3CA-251C-4EBE-8D53-54D486BAB88E@comcast.net> <43840a7e0902081246o687f67e9u51d4491c694f9b20@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43508566-2C75-4336-AE29-C8D7FA107E73@comcast.net> There.. is that better? ;-) Lester On Feb 8, 2009, at 2:46 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Hey Lester, > > Could you post a picture? Per your subject line - I've never seen a > 9948cc > engine!! Sounds like some kind of marine engine like the ones in the > PT > boats! ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Lester wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I am putting together my first 948. After a little tweaking I now > > have the crank pulley and the water pump pulley lining up and the > cam nut > > torqued * BUT* I am now supposed to bend up the cam washer to lock > the cam > > nut in place. The cam nut is supposed to fit into the keyway in > the cam. > > My problem is simple: I have the key in the keyway so there is no > room for > > the cam washer tab to fit into the keyway. I have secured it with > locktite > > but I figured it's best to ask the experts, how do you suggest > that I > > proceed? > > > > Thanks all, > > > > Lester > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong > enough > to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (2)Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Members | > Calendar > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye > Sprite Club, please send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member > of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ > and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive > any emails. > MARKETPLACE > From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch > format to Traditional > Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe > RECENT ACTIVITY > 1 > New Members > 8 > New Photos > Visit Your Group > Yahoo! News > Get it all here > Breaking news to > entertainment news > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > Y! Groups blog > The place to go > to stay informed > on Groups news! > . > > __,_._,___ From twobees at sprynet.com Sun Feb 8 16:31:02 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:31:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving in Snow Message-ID: <002701c98a45$4ecffd80$6401a8c0@normoffice> Oh Boy! Do I have stories! Let's start with a Corvair Spyder - It would GO through any kind of snow unless the snow was too deep & then it would "float" up onto the snow & not have enough weight to keep the rear wheels on the hard-pack. Lots of shoveling to get it back down-to-earth. But, one time, that car & a Jeep 4WD were the only things moving on the NJ section of I-80 & the Jeep & I were back & forth from local to express lanes over snow-covered islands like it was nothing. Scary Corvair story - trying to stop for a stop sign on s steep downhill on snow - NOTHING happening when touching the brakes. Wheels just locked up & slid (grippy Pirelli Cinturatos) Finally down-shifted 3rd, 2nd, 1st & that stopped it. VW Beetle - Driving back roads to Mt. Snow, VT - punching through a 3-ft. drift to get to our destination. Then using it to punch a hole in the snow plowed into the driveway to the house at which we were staying. No damage to the car, enough space to park off the road & snow up to your crotch to try to walk through to the house. Subaru station wagon - climbing a mountain road in VT late one night in a near blizzard. As mentioned, like driving in the dry. 4WD SUVs - in Westport, CT. SoccerMoms who bought SUVs because "they are safe" found out how well they skate off the road because of their too-high c.g. Not too "safe" when they whack a tree. Worst snow drivers - North Carolina. I love driving through NC in dry conditions. Best lane discipline I've seen in the 48 states of the USA in which I've driven. Only in Europe are they better. (Haven't been to OK or KS) One time on my way to the Greensboro airport in light snow at about 32-degrees, I passed about 20 cars that obviously didn't realize bridges freeze before roadways. All of these cars were scattered around the shoulders & median near the bridge waiting for cops or tow trucks. Only 1 or 2 had any damage. In the northeast where I lived most of my life, you loose it & go off-road, if you don't whack another car or cause damage to property, you get back on the road & get to your destination -- using more care. I don't miss snow. Was out in the Alfa today for some top-down driving. No heater, tee-shirt & jeans. Gotta love it. Norm Turner - almost ready for next race in 2 weeks. From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Sun Feb 8 17:17:38 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 00:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] leaking master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <612926725.184771234138430839.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <990708904.186021234138658194.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I took the midget out for a ride today in the lovely 50+ degree weather (first time in 2 weeks) .B As i backed out of the driveway i noticed the brakes were spongy but when i pumped them they were fine.B When i came home i checked and saw that the front half of the master cylinder was empty and the back half was filled but only to the top of the divider.B I also noticed that the brake pedal shaft was wetB as was the pedal pad.B I refilled the master cylinder and the brakes came back strong.B What am I looking at here? whats wrong and how do i fix it? Ryan From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Feb 8 17:49:24 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:49:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <182EF3CA-251C-4EBE-8D53-54D486BAB88E@comcast.net> References: <182EF3CA-251C-4EBE-8D53-54D486BAB88E@comcast.net> Message-ID: <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> Will Marvel Mystery oil work in the dashpots on the HS1's? Have an issue with one carb loading up and the oil doesnt show on the plunger rod when I remove it. The problem I am experiencing it that When starting the motor almost seems like it is only running on two cylinders and after a minute or so the "other" other cylinders kick in. After it is running for a couple of minutes it runs great most of the time. A few times it starts missing like it does on initial startup. Ideas and does the carb sound like the problem? Thanks Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 12:00 AM From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sun Feb 8 18:25:11 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:25:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving in Snow In-Reply-To: <002701c98a45$4ecffd80$6401a8c0@normoffice> References: <002701c98a45$4ecffd80$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: Norm, Not all of NC have bad snow drivers, just a lot of NC. I'm in the mountains and the locals can drive. Of course, Subarus are very common here. We have two and a Midget. Now Greensboro is a mess in the ice, I used to live there, and the northern side of the city near the airport is prone to serious ice. The problem is that they get about 4-48 hours of treacherous weather annually. So, they don't have much in the way of equipment, nor is there much time to learn. All that said, unless you're in the mountains, give'em a wide berth! Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Norm 2Bs Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 6:31 PM To: Spridgets Digest Subject: [Spridgets] Driving in Snow Oh Boy! Do I have stories! Worst snow drivers - North Carolina. I love driving through NC in dry conditions. Best lane discipline I've seen in the 48 states of the USA in which I've driven. Only in Europe are they better. (Haven't been to OK or KS) One time on my way to the Greensboro airport in light snow at about 32-degrees, I passed about 20 cars that obviously didn't realize bridges freeze before roadways. All of these cars were scattered around the shoulders & median near the bridge waiting for cops or tow trucks. Only 1 or 2 had any damage. In the northeast where I lived most of my life, you loose it & go off-road, if you don't whack another car or cause damage to property, you get back on the road & get to your destination -- using more care. From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Sun Feb 8 19:10:12 2009 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:10:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> References: <182EF3CA-251C-4EBE-8D53-54D486BAB88E@comcast.net> <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> Message-ID: <37173D3A-BD16-402E-B47F-7B15D99F5860@gmail.com> On Feb 8, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Leo wrote: > When starting the motor > almost seems like it is only running on two cylinders and after a > minute or > so the "other" other cylinders kick in. After it is running for a > couple of > minutes it runs great most of the time. A few times it starts > missing like > it does on initial startup. Ideas and does the carb sound like the > problem? Leo, Sounds like a sticky carb float or needle. I had the same symptoms with my 71. (Recently rebuilt carbs). The problem was intermittent. I cleaned up the floats and needles and it ran fine for a while. The problem returned after a short while and I discovered that the fuel line was degrading from the inside, (it was new NAPA fuel line). I found a lot of black goo in the float bowls. Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From davriker at nwi.net Sun Feb 8 19:32:11 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 18:32:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] leaking master cylinder? References: <990708904.186021234138658194.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <31D27530B3BD4326BC81F4CE65E10CA2@MAIN> Your Midget (1969-79) has a split hydraulic braking system. The reservoir is split in half, with the larger section feeding the front brakes and the smaller section feeding the rears. The section that was empty is leaking, the section that still had fluid is not. That is the safety feature and how it should work, so that in theory, you always have 1/2 of your braking in case of a system failure. The fact that fluid is on your pedal means that the master cylinder is where the leak is. Time to rebuild (a pain) the master cylinder or replace (more costly, but less frustrating). There are several vendors on the list that can provide you with either a rebuild kit, or a replacement master cylinder. NOTE: The rear wheel cylinders usually aren't far behind, or may already be leaking and you just haven't discovered it yet. ALSO, if they've never been replaced, it is time for new flex lines to the front brakes and at the rear. Flex lines, wheel cylinders and a new master cylinder, Castrol DOT 4, and about 4 hours. Have fun with the E clips on the wheel cylinders. If you've never done them before, find a spridget'eer that has to come help. DavidR. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "spridgets" Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: [Spridgets] leaking master cylinder? >I took the midget out for a ride today in the lovely 50+ degree weather >(first > time in 2 weeks) .B As i backed out of the driveway i noticed the brakes > were > spongy but when i pumped them they were fine.B When i came home i checked > and > saw that the front half of the master cylinder was empty and the back half > was > filled but only to the top of the divider.B I also noticed that the brake > pedal shaft was wetB as was the pedal pad.B I refilled the master > cylinder > and the brakes came back strong.B What am I looking at here? whats wrong > and > how do i fix it? > > Ryan From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sun Feb 8 19:57:39 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 02:57:39 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving in Snow Message-ID: We do have some quality roads. Funny thing is, I met a guy who had moved up here from FL. He sold his S-2000 when he moved here because he wasn't sure where he could drive it! Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Norm" To: "andrewpayne at intrex.net" ; "Spridgets Digest" Sent: 2/8/09 9:08 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Driving in Snow Drew: Yup! NC mountains sure get snow. I was up at Beech Mt. last August. The signs re. studded snow tires & chains reminded me of VT, NH, WA. But -- GREAT sportscar roads. Down here in FL we have to dream about roads like those. Norm From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Feb 8 20:02:02 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:02:02 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] leaking master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <31D27530B3BD4326BC81F4CE65E10CA2@MAIN> References: <990708904.186021234138658194.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <31D27530B3BD4326BC81F4CE65E10CA2@MAIN> Message-ID: <498F9CAA.8050307@comcast.net> Ryan Exactly like David said. Good thing Larry lives down the road from you ;) He can help you do it. Rebuilding the master is a crap shoot. Sometimes it's fine, other times they leak. If you want, I have a couple of rebuildable masters like yours, If you want to try one before you rip into yours, you are welcome to it. They came from parts cars and I have no idea of their condition, they may be fine, they may need a kit, they may be trash. New ones will give you piece of mind for 20 years, rebuilds can leak in a month, year, or another 20. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sun Feb 8 20:05:35 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:05:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] leaking master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <498F9CAA.8050307@comcast.net> References: <990708904.186021234138658194.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <31D27530B3BD4326BC81F4CE65E10CA2@MAIN> <498F9CAA.8050307@comcast.net> Message-ID: So if someone wants a new one that will last 20 years, where do you get it? The last one I bought, lasted 6 years. Sierra doesn't want to rebuild mine, so now what?' Brad On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Ryan > > Exactly like David said. > Good thing Larry lives down the road from you ;) > He can help you do it. > Rebuilding the master is a crap shoot. Sometimes it's fine, other times > they leak. > If you want, I have a couple of rebuildable masters like yours, If you want > to try one before you rip into yours, you are welcome to it. > They came from parts cars and I have no idea of their condition, they may > be fine, they may need a kit, they may be trash. > New ones will give you piece of mind for 20 years, rebuilds can leak in a > month, year, or another 20. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dwramsey at att.net Sun Feb 8 20:06:28 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:06:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> Message-ID: <20090209030650.EF563187667@autox.team.net> Leo, I agree with Kevin. On the H1's the floats will stick, you need to polish the shaft they ride on, and make sure that the inner side of the float is clean and smooth. For the dashpots I use motor oil, if you want lighter oil use auto tranny oil just check it more often. Crash -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Leo Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'Spridgets List'; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. Will Marvel Mystery oil work in the dashpots on the HS1's? Have an issue with one carb loading up and the oil doesnt show on the plunger rod when I remove it. The problem I am experiencing it that When starting the motor almost seems like it is only running on two cylinders and after a minute or so the "other" other cylinders kick in. After it is running for a couple of minutes it runs great most of the time. A few times it starts missing like it does on initial startup. Ideas and does the carb sound like the problem? Thanks Leo From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Sun Feb 8 20:19:17 2009 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:19:17 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Panel adhesive suggestions? Message-ID: <646A2E98-D716-4979-9E32-6F5141AB27C8@gmail.com> Hey, I need to use (metal) panel adhesive to join some sheet metal together. This is in an area where I can't weld. Does anyone have any experience with automotive panel adhesives? Any recommendations from those of you who have used these adhesives? Thanks, Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Feb 8 20:21:55 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:21:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Panel adhesive suggestions? In-Reply-To: <646A2E98-D716-4979-9E32-6F5141AB27C8@gmail.com> References: <646A2E98-D716-4979-9E32-6F5141AB27C8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902081921s2db3a262o8220f4979c8bc87e@mail.gmail.com> 3M Panel Bond is the stuff you want. From derf247 at gmail.com Sun Feb 8 20:23:29 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:23:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> References: <182EF3CA-251C-4EBE-8D53-54D486BAB88E@comcast.net> <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902081923r1da363b8kedca4fc89408cb3c@mail.gmail.com> Yes, I've used MM Oil with good results. That stuff is good for lots of things. On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > Will Marvel Mystery oil work in the dashpots on the HS1's? From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Feb 8 20:28:27 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 19:28:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Panel adhesive suggestions? In-Reply-To: <646A2E98-D716-4979-9E32-6F5141AB27C8@gmail.com> References: <646A2E98-D716-4979-9E32-6F5141AB27C8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5962A91A5A4F484B94920B4DA9D49DF0@spider> Test try whatever you do first. JB Weld works on many types of metal. Contact adhesive, where you put it on both surfaces and then put them together has good holding properties where heat isn't an issue. ...bill in oregon ========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kevin Valentine Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 7:19 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Panel adhesive suggestions? Hey, I need to use (metal) panel adhesive to join some sheet metal together. This is in an area where I can't weld. Does anyone have any experience with automotive panel adhesives? Any recommendations from those of you who have used these adhesives? Thanks, Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa _______________________________________________ From cciaffone at verizon.net Sun Feb 8 20:31:00 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:31:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving in Snow In-Reply-To: References: <002701c98a45$4ecffd80$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: <498FA374.2020206@verizon.net> Amen to that. Here in Durham, and back in Charlotte, the merest flake lines the verges with wrecks. We used to run post-storm bus tours showing all the broken cars. Now we just stay in for a day while the chaos passes and the sun comes out again. chuck Andrew Payne wrote: > Norm, > > Not all of NC have bad snow drivers, just a lot of NC. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Feb 8 22:29:22 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 23:29:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <49.4B.29508.9BD9F894@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> References: <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> <49.4B.29508.9BD9F894@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> Message-ID: <012b01c98a77$5dcfa380$196eea80$@net> Thanks for all the replies and suggestions!!! General consensus is pretty much what I had been thinking is that the float or needle was / is sticking. Tomorrow I will take them apart on the tops and blow out and clean everything up and see if it re-occurs. The carbs were rebuilt by Joe Curto and only have around 600 miles on them now. They were rebuilt around 7 years ago (new throttle shafts, floats, linkages re-plated, parkerized, etc...).. I know, I know...Need to drive it more:) Have been driving it lots lately BUT now I need to put it up on jack stands and clean and WAX the underside along with the motor compartment,... Anyone want to come and help:) Leo -----Original Message----- From: David Ramsey [mailto:dwramsey at att.net] Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:06 PM To: 'Leo' Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. Leo, I agree with Kevin. On the H1's the floats will stick, you need to polish the shaft they ride on, and make sure that the inner side of the float is clean and smooth. For the dashpots I use motor oil, if you want lighter oil use auto tranny oil just check it more often. Crash -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Leo Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'Spridgets List'; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. Will Marvel Mystery oil work in the dashpots on the HS1's? Have an issue with one carb loading up and the oil doesnt show on the plunger rod when I remove it. The problem I am experiencing it that When starting the motor almost seems like it is only running on two cylinders and after a minute or so the "other" other cylinders kick in. After it is running for a couple of minutes it runs great most of the time. A few times it starts missing like it does on initial startup. Ideas and does the carb sound like the problem? Thanks Leo No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 12:00 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 12:00 AM From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Sun Feb 8 22:38:30 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 23:38:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <49.4B.29508.9BD9F894@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> References: <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> <49.4B.29508.9BD9F894@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> Message-ID: <013101c98a78$a3f5e6c0$ebe1b440$@net> Am I correct on this...the heavier the viscosity used for the dashpot oil, the slower the response, the lighter the oil the faster the response??? i.e. the higher the viscosity the greater the resistance to the slide rising and one up the heavier viscosity will slow the return to idle..no demand state...? Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 12:00 AM From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 07:02:47 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:02:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <013101c98a78$a3f5e6c0$ebe1b440$@net> References: <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> <49.4B.29508.9BD9F894@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> <013101c98a78$a3f5e6c0$ebe1b440$@net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902090602m1e11446byc2780d1317aaf135@mail.gmail.com> Yes. > Am I correct on this...the heavier the viscosity used for the dashpot oil, > the slower the response, the lighter the oil the faster the response??? i.e. > the higher the viscosity the greater the resistance to the slide rising and > one up the heavier viscosity will slow the return to idle..no demand > state...? From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Mon Feb 9 07:03:13 2009 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <20090209030650.EF563187667@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <2021493769.3864371234188193073.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> My local LBC reference and mechanic, Buddy, recommends using Marvel Mystery Oil in the dashpots. My MG has a Weber so I haven't tried it. --David C If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ramsey" To: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:06:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. Leo, I agree with Kevin. On the H1's the floats will stick, you need to polish the shaft they ride on, and make sure that the inner side of the float is clean and smooth. For the dashpots I use motor oil, if you want lighter oil use auto tranny oil just check it more often. Crash -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Leo Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'Spridgets List'; bugeye at yahoogroups.com Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. Will Marvel Mystery oil work in the dashpots on the HS1's? Have an issue with one carb loading up and the oil doesnt show on the plunger rod when I remove it. The problem I am experiencing it that When starting the motor almost seems like it is only running on two cylinders and after a minute or so the "other" other cylinders kick in. After it is running for a couple of minutes it runs great most of the time. A few times it starts missing like it does on initial startup. Ideas and does the carb sound like the problem? Thanks Leo _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 07:14:49 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:14:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <2021493769.3864371234188193073.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <20090209030650.EF563187667@autox.team.net> <2021493769.3864371234188193073.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902090614l7f418d54k482bafe7afd33e4b@mail.gmail.com> MM Oil is good for dashpots. But, the oil is not the only tuning factor. The weight of the piston, the wear on the piston/cylinder, and the spring also affect tuning on the SUs. If you have one sticking you can probably take the cylinder off and clean it and the piston with a Scotch Brite pad and rinse with gas and reassemble. You don't need to pull the carb, just remove the screws holding down the cylinder and the top parts should come off easily. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Mon Feb 9 07:18:18 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:18:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902090602m1e11446byc2780d1317aaf135@mail.gmail.com> References: <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net> <49.4B.29508.9BD9F894@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> <013101c98a78$a3f5e6c0$ebe1b440$@net> <5f00d9910902090602m1e11446byc2780d1317aaf135@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <015d01c98ac1$4214cb30$c63e6190$@net> So am I likewise correct that if too light of oil was used you could get "flutter" in the acceleration? Just curious. Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.18 - Release Date: 2/4/2009 12:00 AM From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Mon Feb 9 07:38:34 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 09:38:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] leaking master cylinder? In-Reply-To: <498F9CAA.8050307@comcast.net> References: <990708904.186021234138658194.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <31D27530B3BD4326BC81F4CE65E10CA2@MAIN> <498F9CAA.8050307@comcast.net> Message-ID: Ryan, give me a buzz and I'll come give a hand. I would go for a new master from the usual suspects on the list. Easier. Also get the flex lines (if you have not done them yet) and the rear cylinders (again, if you have not done them yet) Larry On Feb 8, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Ryan > > Exactly like David said. > Good thing Larry lives down the road from you ;) > He can help you do it. > Rebuilding the master is a crap shoot. Sometimes it's fine, other > times they leak. > If you want, I have a couple of rebuildable masters like yours, If > you want to try one before you rip into yours, you are welcome to it. > They came from parts cars and I have no idea of their condition, > they may be fine, they may need a kit, they may be trash. > New ones will give you piece of mind for 20 years, rebuilds can leak > in a month, year, or another 20. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Feb 9 08:15:26 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 10:15:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] My favorite hardtop at half the price now .......eBay Message-ID: <205cef430902090715h763c2f61ha882946b56550500@mail.gmail.com> List, One of my favorite hardtops for a Bugeye is relisted at half the price now. Sure would look nice with a Speedwell bonnet : ) ............... I also like the Warwick hardtop. eBay 160314644139 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160314644139&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&viewitem = Lin From rbc_48183 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 9 09:44:58 2009 From: rbc_48183 at yahoo.com (roger cotting) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:44:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Panel adhesive suggestions? References: <646A2E98-D716-4979-9E32-6F5141AB27C8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <494529.52146.qm@web111213.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I have used "Maximum" which is available at body supply shops for some floor repair and battery compartment repairs. I find it easy to use. follow the instructions on the tube. It comes with a mixer on the end of the tube. I don't use it, I just mix on a piece of cardboard like you do with Bondo. It stays pliable for about 10-15 minutes. I use Clecko's and clamps to hold the pieces together and let it dry overnight. It cleans up like Bondo. I also used it to put flat rocker panels on my Sprite. I got the idea from Spritgetech where they fasten fiberglass fenders onto Sprites. Roger Cotting ________________________________ From: Kevin Valentine To: Spridgets Sent: Sunday, February 8, 2009 10:19:17 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Panel adhesive suggestions? Hey, I need to use (metal) panel adhesive to join some sheet metal together. This is in an area where I can't weld. Does anyone have any experience with automotive panel adhesives? Any recommendations from those of you who have used these adhesives? Thanks, Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as rbc_48183 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Mon Feb 9 10:23:07 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 09:23:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <2021493769.3864371234188193073.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <2021493769.3864371234188193073.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4990667B.6000701@frontiernet.net> To receive help from the rest of you? Kate > > --David C > If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Feb 9 10:56:35 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:56:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Turner Message-ID: <8D1E741F57F945B2810DF08CFB3F9DA8@Home> A friend stopped my at the Post Office this morning and asked if I were interested in a Turner. It has some damage from a lost wheel at Lime Rock and is apparently a "distress" sale owing to the current economy. Contact me of-list. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From twobees at sprynet.com Mon Feb 9 12:10:47 2009 From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:10:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1959 Turner Message-ID: <006a01c98aea$1d91bb00$6401a8c0@normoffice> This Turner is well-know among us Turner guys. It's a really good car in need of some work. Anyone interested in "playing" with the VSCCA should consider it. Norm '59 Turner From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Feb 9 20:07:35 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:07:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. References: <00f401c98a50$4100fb90$c302f2b0$@net><49.4B.29508.9BD9F894@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net><013101c98a78$a3f5e6c0$ebe1b440$@net> <5f00d9910902090602m1e11446byc2780d1317aaf135@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7D58325CE6A74BEABD1697BD5D20E57C@blackbox2> It's not that simple. There is no accelerator pump on an S.U. to enrich the mixture as you go to a wide open throttle condition (like on a Holley or Webber) SU's rely on the delayed rise of the piston to force enrichment when the butterflys go wide open. The delayed rise is a result of the damper (and naturally the viscosity of the oil in the damper). So what happens is when the butterflys go wide open the engine trys to draw more air. but the piston will not go up instantaniously, so instead the engine draws more fuel through the main jet. This enriches the mixture, which is what the engine needs to accelerate. So if you had too thin of oil (or none!) in the dash pots the pistons would rise too fast, and this would result in hesitation & bucking on acceleration. As you go more viscous with the oil you will hit a sweet spot optimal for throttle response. Then when you go too heavy you will have slow engine acceleration and see a puff of black smoke in the exhaust as you goose the throttle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Cc: "David Ramsey" ; Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. > Yes. > > >> Am I correct on this...the heavier the viscosity used for the dashpot oil, >> the slower the response, the lighter the oil the faster the response??? i.e. >> the higher the viscosity the greater the resistance to the slide rising and >> one up the heavier viscosity will slow the return to idle..no demand >> state...? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlh2001 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Feb 9 20:25:15 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 19:25:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. Message-ID: <215646.23826.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Dean Hedin wrote... ...a good explanation. A couple of clarifying points - > when the butterflys go wide open. The delayed rise is a > result of the damper (and > naturally the viscosity of the oil in the damper). Also, the resistance to the piston rising is greater than the resistance to the piston falling. > the engine draws more fuel through the main jet. Just to clarify if you're wondering how the needle "not rising" increases the fuel flow, the piston damping increases the velocity of the air across the venturi and the bridge. The rate of fuel flow is directly proportional to the velocity of the air, so you get a richening effect. I can't tune an SU worth a damn, though. The ones on my race car were set up by Craig Chima and I was told not to touch them. My 1970 Midget has the SUs as they came out of the factory, and my street Bugeye has a Weber! Ron From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Feb 9 21:41:32 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:41:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. References: <215646.23826.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Right on Ron, BTW, I'm just the opposite. The simple mass, spring, damper, and Bernolli priciples of the SU I understand. Outside of EFI, I can't imagine doing it any other way. I cannot grasp the discrete circuits of other types of carbs. They are like the old automatic transmission valve bodies. Little passages and orfices going everywhere. Plus I hate any carb where I can't adjust the main jet with the engine running. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. > --- Dean Hedin wrote... > ...a good explanation. A couple of clarifying points - > >> when the butterflys go wide open. The delayed rise is a >> result of the damper (and >> naturally the viscosity of the oil in the damper). > > Also, the resistance to the piston rising is greater than the resistance to the piston falling. > >> the engine draws more fuel through the main jet. > > Just to clarify if you're wondering how the needle "not rising" increases the fuel flow, the piston damping increases the velocity > of the air across the venturi and the bridge. The rate of fuel flow is directly proportional to the velocity of the air, so you > get a richening effect. > > I can't tune an SU worth a damn, though. The ones on my race car were set up by Craig Chima and I was told not to touch them. My > 1970 Midget has the SUs as they came out of the factory, and my street Bugeye has a Weber! > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlh2001 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Tue Feb 10 01:54:21 2009 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:54:21 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. In-Reply-To: <7D58325CE6A74BEABD1697BD5D20E57C@blackbox2> Message-ID: <7DA082D4537C4D3BB90B7E1FFC301E0D@GuyLaptop> Dean, I knew all of that, but I have never seen it written down and explained so clearly! Succinct, accurate and logical! Thanks! Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: 10 February 2009 03:08 To: derf; Leo Cc: David Ramsey; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. It's not that simple. There is no accelerator pump on an S.U. to enrich the mixture as you go to a wide open throttle condition (like on a Holley or Webber) SU's rely on the delayed rise of the piston to force enrichment when the butterflys go wide open. The delayed rise is a result of the damper (and naturally the viscosity of the oil in the damper). So what happens is when the butterflys go wide open the engine trys to draw more air. but the piston will not go up instantaniously, so instead the engine draws more fuel through the main jet. This enriches the mixture, which is what the engine needs to accelerate. So if you had too thin of oil (or none!) in the dash pots the pistons would rise too fast, and this would result in hesitation & bucking on acceleration. As you go more viscous with the oil you will hit a sweet spot optimal for throttle response. Then when you go too heavy you will have slow engine acceleration and see a puff of black smoke in the exhaust as you goose the throttle. ----- Original Message ----- From: "derf" To: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Cc: "David Ramsey" ; Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carb dashpot oil. > Yes. > > >> Am I correct on this...the heavier the viscosity used for the dashpot oil, >> the slower the response, the lighter the oil the faster the response??? i.e. >> the higher the viscosity the greater the resistance to the slide rising and >> one up the heavier viscosity will slow the return to idle..no demand >> state...? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dlh2001 at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bighealey at charter.net Tue Feb 10 07:19:16 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 06:19:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Need spare tire hold down Message-ID: <89738E3A0ABB428884523F54957EC93F@TRACY> I need a spare tire hold down for a 76 Midget with Rostyles. I have one but it si too short. Did these come in different lengths? Will trade or pay for one that works. My spare is knocking around in the trunk. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From wbmcleod at gmail.com Tue Feb 10 07:25:12 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 07:25:12 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Need spare tire hold down In-Reply-To: <89738E3A0ABB428884523F54957EC93F@TRACY> References: <89738E3A0ABB428884523F54957EC93F@TRACY> Message-ID: <21FF5A99-BB76-4825-A7D3-48F011E996C9@gmail.com> Stretch out a cat, hook his claws in the tie downs, pet him till he tightens down.... Bill (cat lover) in Tucson On Feb 10, 2009, at 7:19 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > I need a spare tire hold down for a 76 Midget with Rostyles. > > > > I have one but it si too short. Did these come in different lengths? > > > > Will trade or pay for one that works. My spare is knocking around > in the > trunk. > > > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > > President AHCUSA www.healey.org From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 10 11:18:10 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:18:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Need spare tire hold down In-Reply-To: <21FF5A99-BB76-4825-A7D3-48F011E996C9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <> Works WAY faster if you pour a bucket water on it, Bill!!! Ed (DOG lover) in Hinsdale PS: All you Easterners are gonna LOVE us Midwesterners because of what we are sending you which should 'arrive' Thurs.!! 60+ Degrees and not a cloud in the sky !!!! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Feb 10 11:40:28 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:40:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Need spare tire hold down In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Perverts! :) ----Original Message Follows---- Bill (cat lover) in Tucson>> Ed (DOG lover) in Hinsdale From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Feb 10 11:43:54 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:43:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Need spare tire hold down In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I don't know Bill, but have you ever seen Ed? He's lucky the dog don't bite him, like a rabid raccoon!! LOL Brad On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Robert Duquette < robertduquette at sympatico.ca> wrote: > Perverts! :) > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > Bill (cat lover) in Tucson>> > > > Ed (DOG lover) in Hinsdale > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Feb 10 11:47:04 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:47:04 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Need spare tire hold down In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, we're getting a somewhat sudden thaw tomorrow. I don't want that! ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Ed's Shop" PS: All you Easterners are gonna LOVE us Midwesterners because of what we are sending you which should 'arrive' Thurs.!! 60+ Degrees and not a cloud in the sky !!!! From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 10 11:57:45 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:57:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Need spare tire hold down In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> Now THAT is the absolute PERFECT example of the cat calling the kettle black !!!! LMAO !! From haynes386 at netzero.net Tue Feb 10 14:22:29 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:22:29 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bonnet Alignment tips? Message-ID: <20090210.142229.8267.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> I finally got around to trying to slide the BE bonnet into its correct position relative to the scuttle this weekend (there's about 1/2" of opening). I was able to get the bonnet to move towards the scuttle on the hinges, but the gap hasn't decreased significantly. There is movement within the passengers side hinge assembly, I think the welds may be broken loose in the support structure. Any other ideas/experiences that might explain why it sits so far forward? Could the hinge bolts themselves be bent or worn this badly? Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Free information - Learn about IRS Tax Solutions. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/PnY6rc2NVNu4bXI3KuFIF9byuXxCj7 9C76AGIYpAB17ogOo4c6QQs/ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Tue Feb 10 14:45:47 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:45:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bonnet Alignment tips? In-Reply-To: <20090210.142229.8267.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> References: <20090210.142229.8267.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: I would like some as well! I can get hood to A pillar gaps even and maybe even hood to cowl gap good BUT then the alignment pins up front will NOT go into the alignment holes.. and I followed Frank's advice and took the hood gasket out so that the hood is now level with the cowl.. Thanks, Lester On Feb 10, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: > I finally got around to trying to slide the BE bonnet into its correct > position relative to the scuttle this weekend (there's about 1/2" of > opening). > I was able to get the bonnet to move towards the scuttle on the > hinges, but > the gap hasn't decreased significantly. There is movement within the > passengers side hinge assembly, I think the welds may be broken > loose in the > support structure. Any other ideas/experiences that might explain > why it sits > so far forward? Could the hinge bolts themselves be bent or worn > this badly? > > > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Feb 10 15:08:08 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:08:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] CMGC Swap Meet 2/22 Message-ID: Just thought I would point out that the Chicagoland MG Club will be holding its thirteenth annual British Swap Meet on February 22 at the Dupage County Fairgrounds near Wheaton, Illinois. Look me up if you go. I know that there will be a double booth there selling a mess of Spridget parts including a .020"-over 1275 that has never been fired up since its rebuild, a rebuilt ribcase trans, a Snugtop hardtop, and lots more! Details at http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/swapmeet David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Feb 10 15:11:47 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:11:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Somebody wanted Message-ID: <4991FBA3.4030702@comcast.net> The Holy Sprite newspaper article, the physical newspaper that is, I forget who that was. I only have 3 extra copies, and 2 are spoken for, I might have a 4th copy but not the whole paper, just the section with the article. For the story, if you missed it, http://tinyurl.com/d9y6sr For pictures the paper didn't print http://tinyurl.com/cy2vcu -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From davriker at nwi.net Tue Feb 10 19:11:10 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:11:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI Northern California Listers References: <200902051314.n15DE7Ki000940@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: I know several of you have ventured to Chico, CA over the years for their All British Car Meet, that has been held pretty much without fail for the last 20 years. For the most part, the survival of the British Car scene in Chico and that meet pretty well owe it's existence to Tony Rodriguez, the long time owner of Economy Foriegn Car Parts, in Chico. This past month, Tony, who is only about 50 years old, was diagnosed with stage four cancerous brain tumors. The prognosis is not good, and at this time, I'm told Tony is physically doing ok, but is forgetfull and easily confused. Being self-employed, Tony has very limited health care insurance. He has a wife, and two sons, 17 and 21. I've witnessed the outpouring of good will from this list for strangers before, and am hoping I can rally some help, however small for Tony. I know that without his influence and help over the years, I probably would not have found or hung on to my love of LBC's. Can someone who has done this before advise me on how to set up a fund on his behalf? I've heard much complaints about PayPal, so I'm unsure if that is the route to go. Also, if you need to order any british car parts, his lone employee, Mike, is trying to keep the store open, as that is the family source of income. They source parts from all the usual places and then some. The business phone is 530-342-1821. Mike can ship anywhere. I'm sorry this is so jumbled up, but my thoughts are spinning a mile a minute. Tony has been a good friend. I've lost friends and relatives before, but never known ahead of time that it is coming. I'm two states away now and may not get to see him again. David Riker From james.f.juhas at snet.net Tue Feb 10 20:28:59 2009 From: james.f.juhas at snet.net (Jim Juhas) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:28:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Driving in Snow In-Reply-To: <002701c98a45$4ecffd80$6401a8c0@normoffice> References: <002701c98a45$4ecffd80$6401a8c0@normoffice> Message-ID: <499245FB.10302@snet.net> Sure, Norm, rub it in. But up here in Connecticut, I get to relive my youth, driving my rwd car on snow covered roads, just like I did back in the day when front drivers were true oddities, like my wife's (before she was my wife) Saab 93, the 3-cylinder kind. My cars back then were a Corvair, a Chevelle convertible, and later a Pinto. Norm 2Bs wrote: > Oh Boy! Do I have stories! > > > > I don't miss snow. Was out in the Alfa today for some top-down driving. No > heater, tee-shirt & jeans. Gotta love it. > > Norm > Turner - almost ready for next race in 2 weeks. > _______________________________________________ From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Feb 11 04:02:28 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:02:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Newspaper article Message-ID: <709027.59536.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Rick Neville wrote: From: Rick Neville Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Newspaper article To: "Frank Clarici" Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 6:01 AM Frank, That was a nice article about a great group of people who got together to do something really nice. The comments to the story left a lot to be desired, though. Rick --- On Sat, 2/7/09, Frank Clarici wrote: From: Frank Clarici Subject: [Spridgets] Holy Sprite Newspaper article To: "Buster Evans" , "Spridgets" , "John Sprinzel" , "Dave Jacquemot" Date: Saturday, February 7, 2009, 2:51 PM http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2009902070316 or: *http://tinyurl.com/d9y6sr ** and for more pics * http://tinyurl.com/cy2vcu -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ You are subscribed as healeyrick at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 11 05:05:43 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:05:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Supercharged Wings Message-ID: For those of you that aren't on the Yahooey Bugeye list. Nick Conklin has made up some Supercharged Healey Wing Badges, that would surround your bonnet badge. The are very cool looking. If you can't get into the Photo section of the Bugeye list, perhaps Ed can put the pics on his web site..... >After a few years of playing with the idea, I finally finished the Supercharged Wings, I will be producing a very limited run, the emblems are brass, chrome plated and with inset red SUPERCHARGED lettering as original. I posted some pics in the photo section album Healey Wings...Nick His email is Nicolas Conklin" Well, I got another one of these inquiries about an item I had listed on Craig's List. Again, he wanted to know if it was still available. I said it was and this is what his reply was: Hello, Thanks for the prompt response. I am satisfied with the information provided about it at the craigslist. I will love to make an instant purchase, so please do withdraw the advert from Craigslist, I don't mind adding an extra $50 dolls for you to do that so that i can be rest assured that the item is in hand. I will also like you to know that I will be paying via check due to the distance and it will be over night payment. My secretary in the state will issue the check for the payment. I am presently on a business trip and will be back soon. You don't need to bother your self with the shipment. Ok? My Mover will handle that .So I will need you to provide me with the following information to facilitate the mailing of the check. Name, Address and Phone number Have a nice day. Donald. So this is what I sent to him: Hey Donald, I live at 357 Magnum Drive, Orlando, FL 32803. It is just around the corner from Kickyourass Avenue. Please send the check there and have it made out to: Wooja Likeakick Thanks. To which he replied: Hello Thanks for the details sent to me , I will forward your details over to my secretary and she will be sending you the check soon once drawn from the bank. Once I have an update from her that the check has been mailed, I will email you for you to watch over it to arrive your location. Thanks once again I will get back to you. I'll have my Mover contacts you soon so you can work out the details. Regards, Donald This morning, I got this: Hello, Good morning!! I want you to understand that secretary had posted the payment already, but there was a slight error I guess we can handle it with care, instead of the actual amount $400 for the item, she made a check for $3,500.50 out to you instead to the mover. So once you have the check please have it cashed and deduct the cost of the bought item plus $50 that for your run around expenses. The excess fund should please be sent to my mover via Western Union Money transfer. **Please email at once to let me know that i can trust to have the excess funds sent to my mover** Best Regards, Donald. What to do....what to do..... From grday at btinternet.com Wed Feb 11 08:11:23 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:11:23 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY OT - Could this be a scam? The plot thickens.... References: <021a01c98c55$e39d85b0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: Is this Donald really Donald DUCK? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heard" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:34 PM Subject: [Spridgets] WAY OT - Could this be a scam? The plot thickens.... > Well, I got another one of these inquiries about an item I had listed on > Craig's List. Again, he wanted to know if it was still available. I said > it > was and this is what his reply was: > > Hello, > Thanks for the prompt response. I am satisfied with the information > provided about it at the craigslist. I will love to make an instant > purchase, so please do withdraw the advert from Craigslist, I don't mind > adding an extra $50 dolls for you to do that so that i can be rest assured > that the item is in hand. I will also like you to know that I will be > paying > via check due to the distance and it will be over night payment. My > secretary in the state will issue the check for the payment. I am > presently > on a business trip and will be back soon. You don't need to bother your > self > with the shipment. Ok? My Mover will handle that .So I will need you to > provide me with the following information to facilitate the mailing of the > check. Name, Address and Phone number > > Have a nice day. > Donald. > > So this is what I sent to him: > > Hey Donald, > > I live at 357 Magnum Drive, Orlando, FL 32803. It is just around the > corner > from Kickyourass Avenue. Please send the check there and have it made out > to: > > Wooja Likeakick > > Thanks. > > To which he replied: > > > Hello > Thanks for the details sent to me , I will forward your details over > to > my secretary and she will be sending you the check soon once drawn from > the > bank. Once I have an update from her that the check has been mailed, I > will > email you for you to watch over it to arrive your location. Thanks once > again I will get back to you. I'll have my Mover contacts you soon so you > can work out the details. > Regards, > Donald > > This morning, I got this: > > Hello, > Good morning!! I want you to understand that secretary had posted the > payment already, but there was a slight error I guess we can handle it > with > care, instead of the actual amount $400 for the item, she made a check for > $3,500.50 out to you instead to the mover. > So once you have the check please have it cashed and deduct the cost > of > the bought item plus $50 that for your run around expenses. The excess > fund > should please be sent to my mover via Western Union Money transfer. > **Please email at once to let me know that i can trust to have the excess > funds sent to my mover** > Best Regards, > Donald. > > > What to do....what to do..... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Feb 11 08:11:52 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:11:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY OT - Could this be a scam? The plot thickens.... In-Reply-To: <021a01c98c55$e39d85b0$1801010a@xp> References: <021a01c98c55$e39d85b0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <719406700.20090211071152@pacifier.com> Hello Heard, The thing is, this is a complete waste of YOUR time as well as his. You already know he will never show. You already knew it was a scam. Wait a couple of days and tell him that you have received the check and turned it and his return address over to the authorities concerned with both banking and mail fraud, and be done with it.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "I've paid my annual subscription," Tom remembered. From jdinnis at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 08:18:03 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:18:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY OT - Could this be a scam? The plot thickens.... In-Reply-To: <719406700.20090211071152@pacifier.com> References: <021a01c98c55$e39d85b0$1801010a@xp> <719406700.20090211071152@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Tell him you need his checking acount number and bank routing number to transfer the money back to him. If he gives them to you, use this info to make an anonmyous donation to a worthy charity. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Heard, > > The thing is, this is a complete waste of YOUR time as well as > his. You already know he will never show. You already knew it was > a scam. Wait a couple of days and tell him that you have received > the check and turned it and his return address over to the > authorities concerned with both banking and mail fraud, and be > done with it.... > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > * "I've paid my annual subscription," Tom remembered. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 08:31:37 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:31:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY OT - Could this be a scam? The plot thickens.... In-Reply-To: References: <021a01c98c55$e39d85b0$1801010a@xp> <719406700.20090211071152@pacifier.com> Message-ID: I have mentioned this in the past, but here it is again. http://www.ebolamonkeyman.com/ For those that are retired, and would like to use their "golden years" to "F" with somebody, this site is rife with ideas. I am personally fond of the second one down, Peter Aka, and the Tiffany Minx scam... On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:18 AM, John Innis wrote: > Tell him you need his checking acount number and bank routing number > to transfer the money back to him. If he gives them to you, use this > info to make an anonmyous donation to a worthy charity. > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Bill L wrote: > > Hello Heard, > > > > The thing is, this is a complete waste of YOUR time as well as > > his. You already know he will never show. You already knew it was > > a scam. Wait a couple of days and tell him that you have received > > the check and turned it and his return address over to the > > authorities concerned with both banking and mail fraud, and be > > done with it.... > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > > > * "I've paid my annual subscription," Tom remembered. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > ================================= > = Never offend people with style when you = > = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = > ================================= > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 08:39:10 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:39:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY OT - Could this be a scam? The plot thickens.... In-Reply-To: <021a01c98c55$e39d85b0$1801010a@xp> References: <021a01c98c55$e39d85b0$1801010a@xp> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902110739o43eb956dr98cf6eea5d7500ce@mail.gmail.com> I just reply with: "Yes, thank you. My information is below. Looking forward to the transaction. Special Agent John Smith FBI Fraud Division Suite 12 12345 Government Street Yourtown, USA YOURZIP" From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Feb 11 09:04:39 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:04:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook help: Non LBC Message-ID: <001401c98c62$71a0b150$54e213f0$@net> URRRGGGHHH Need some help on my Outlook settings. Within the last two days when I select a message with the mouse it opens the message in a new window instead of just bringing the mouse focus on it. In addition, when I delete the message it may remove several messages. It is like the mouse is in hyper drive and has taken on a mind of its own. Have ran a virus scan with AVG and it doesnt show any viruss. Ideas??? I have my reading setup in preview mode. Folders on the left, message heading/sender/date/etc.. on the top right and the body of the message below. Thanks Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.21 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 AM From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 11:25:04 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:25:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question Message-ID: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> I was at Harbor Freight and Tool supply yesterday and noticed that they sell a trailer that is supposed to handle 1700 lbs with a floor that is 4' x 8'. I measured the wheel base on my 59 BE and found that I could make this work. And of course being made in China, one can trust the care and quality assembly, along with the quality components that we have all come to appreciate in Chinese made goods. LOL But this might be easier to strengthen and modify instead of building one from scratch. Sells for $349.0. Would this single axle trailer be too small - even though I could get my car on it, to work? I am afraid that a single axle might get squirly on the road? Has anyone towed their Spridget with a single axle set up? Kirk From derf247 at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 11:22:12 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:22:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook help: Non LBC In-Reply-To: <001401c98c62$71a0b150$54e213f0$@net> References: <001401c98c62$71a0b150$54e213f0$@net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902111022u667afefer9302fdb573bde587@mail.gmail.com> Maybe you hot keyed your mouse into double click mode? Check your mouse settings and make sure you aren't double clicking accidentally. From ggroiss at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 11:29:29 2009 From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:29:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The Holy Sprite made the trip cross country on one of those. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I was at Harbor Freight and Tool supply yesterday and noticed that they sell > a trailer that is supposed to handle 1700 lbs with a floor that is 4' x 8'. > > > I measured the wheel base on my 59 BE and found that I could make this work. > > > And of course being made in China, one can trust the care and quality > assembly, along with the quality components that we have all come to > appreciate in Chinese made goods. LOL > > But this might be easier to strengthen and modify instead of building one > from scratch. > > Sells for $349.0. > > Would this single axle trailer be too small - even though I could get my car > on it, to work? I am afraid that a single axle might get squirly on the > road? > > Has anyone towed their Spridget with a single axle set up? > > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ggroiss at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 11:29:55 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:29:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I may be wrong, but I believe it was a HF trailer, very similar to this, that the Holy Sprite tub was moved transcontinental on. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I was at Harbor Freight and Tool supply yesterday and noticed that they > sell > a trailer that is supposed to handle 1700 lbs with a floor that is 4' x 8'. > > > I measured the wheel base on my 59 BE and found that I could make this > work. > > > And of course being made in China, one can trust the care and quality > assembly, along with the quality components that we have all come to > appreciate in Chinese made goods. LOL > > But this might be easier to strengthen and modify instead of building one > from scratch. > > Sells for $349.0. > > Would this single axle trailer be too small - even though I could get my > car > on it, to work? I am afraid that a single axle might get squirly on the > road? > > Has anyone towed their Spridget with a single axle set up? > > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From hammack at GotSlack.org Wed Feb 11 11:32:13 2009 From: hammack at GotSlack.org (Jim Hammack) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:32:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <499319AD.60101@GotSlack.org> Kirk, Is this the trailer you're looking at? http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94564 I have the same question regarding moving my '67 Spridget and my '71 Mini. Jim Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I was at Harbor Freight and Tool supply yesterday and noticed that they sell > a trailer that is supposed to handle 1700 lbs with a floor that is 4' x 8'. > > > I measured the wheel base on my 59 BE and found that I could make this work. > > > And of course being made in China, one can trust the care and quality > assembly, along with the quality components that we have all come to > appreciate in Chinese made goods. LOL > > But this might be easier to strengthen and modify instead of building one > from scratch. > > Sells for $349.0. > > Would this single axle trailer be too small - even though I could get my car > on it, to work? I am afraid that a single axle might get squirly on the > road? > > Has anyone towed their Spridget with a single axle set up? > > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hammack at gotslack.org > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Feb 11 12:16:11 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:16:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook help: Non LBC In-Reply-To: <001401c98c62$71a0b150$54e213f0$@net> References: <001401c98c62$71a0b150$54e213f0$@net> Message-ID: I just got an automatic upgrade from MS last night, and it has choked up my mail to the point that it is almost useless. Maybe there are big problems with the latest "improvements." Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Feb 11 12:18:17 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:18:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <499319AD.60101@GotSlack.org> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> <499319AD.60101@GotSlack.org> Message-ID: Guys, I just pulled a Bugeye on a single axle trailer from California to Missouri and back for the 50 celebration last Summer. I have owned this trailer for several years and it works fine for a Bugeye size car. It was last used for a Formula V racecar, but I had it widened on the inside runners to accomodate the wider tires I installed on my Bugeye when I went to Superlite wheels. I have had no problems with this trailer, but I need to sell it because I need a larger one to haul my BN2 with as well as the Bugeye. The first $300 takes it, you haul away. I have made a few upgrades since I bought this thing, like fenders and a new light kit. I reside in San Bernardino, California if anyone is interested. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Jim Hammack wrote: > Kirk, > > Is this the trailer you're looking at? > > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=94564 > > I have the same question regarding moving my '67 Spridget and my '71 Mini. > > Jim > > > Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > >> I was at Harbor Freight and Tool supply yesterday and noticed that they >> sell >> a trailer that is supposed to handle 1700 lbs with a floor that is 4' x >> 8'. >> >> >> I measured the wheel base on my 59 BE and found that I could make this >> work. >> >> >> And of course being made in China, one can trust the care and quality >> assembly, along with the quality components that we have all come to >> appreciate in Chinese made goods. LOL >> >> But this might be easier to strengthen and modify instead of building one >> from scratch. >> >> Sells for $349.0. >> >> Would this single axle trailer be too small - even though I could get my >> car >> on it, to work? I am afraid that a single axle might get squirly on the >> road? >> >> Has anyone towed their Spridget with a single axle set up? >> >> >> Kirk >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as hammack at gotslack.org >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Feb 11 12:25:20 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:25:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > The Holy Sprite made the trip cross country on one of those. 1. I thought the Holy Sprite did not have an engine for that trip, in which case it was significantly lighter. 2. I thought that the trailer was a bit bent up by the time it arrived in NJ. If so, it would be useful to know what reinforcements would help. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Feb 11 12:34:20 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:34:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook help: Non LBC In-Reply-To: References: <001401c98c62$71a0b150$54e213f0$@net> Message-ID: <3C09C8BED0CB401E894EB3AD6FA4E9F7@spider> I thought Big Brother was supposed to work; turns out it don't, along with Big Government, Big Business and big banks. I bought my computer with Windows XP back about 2003. Since then is has slowed to about one-tenth of its original operating speed. This seems to be in response to errors I report, at their prompting. The solution appears to be to slow down my response time so their patches will work. Still get the error(s). ...bill in oregon =============================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:16 AM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Outlook help: Non LBC I just got an automatic upgrade from MS last night, and it has choked up my mail to the point that it is almost useless. Maybe there are big problems with the latest "improvements." Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Feb 11 12:35:35 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:35:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > 1. I thought the Holy Sprite did not have an engine for that trip, in > which case it was significantly lighter. > 2. I thought that the trailer was a bit bent up by the time it arrived in > NJ. If so, it would be useful to know what reinforcements would help. 1. It DID have a 1500 engine and transmission until it got to St Louis. 2. I dunno about the thugs in NJ, but there was little or no damage to it when I handed it off in Indy. It tracked fine for me and the hubs did not even get warm at 65mph or so. David Lieb From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Feb 11 12:52:40 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:52:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Outlook help: Non LBC In-Reply-To: <3C09C8BED0CB401E894EB3AD6FA4E9F7@spider> References: <001401c98c62$71a0b150$54e213f0$@net> <3C09C8BED0CB401E894EB3AD6FA4E9F7@spider> Message-ID: <49932C88.6060706@verizon.net> You really need to see what apps are auto-starting when you boot up. Every app that is running is stealing resources from what you want to do. Betcha if you hit alt-ctrl-del and look at the apps and processes that are running (and using resources) you will be surprised. You can go into the registry to fix this, or click start>run>msconfig to control auto-starts. I keep all my data on other drives so that every 6 months or so I can format c: and reinstall the op sys and any apps. All my data, including email, addresses, bookmarks, spreads, whatever is on D: and above. chuck corvallis at peoplepc.com wrote: > I bought my computer with Windows XP back about 2003. Since then is has > slowed to about one-tenth of its original operating speed. From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Feb 11 12:55:14 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:55:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <499319AD.60101@GotSlack.org> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> <499319AD.60101@GotSlack.org> Message-ID: Northern Tool has a similar trailer that is 5' wide. http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200356494_200356494 Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 11 13:06:20 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:06:20 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com><499319AD.60101@GotSlack.org> Message-ID: <021120092006.11317.49932FBC0001185200002C3522216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog added: While planning your Harbor Freight/Northern Tool trailer project don't forget: http://www.usafuneralhomesonline.com/ -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe : -------------- > Northern Tool has a similar trailer that is 5' wide.http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200356494_200356494 From ggroiss at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 13:11:25 2009 From: ggroiss at gmail.com (Gregory Groiss) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:11:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <021120092006.11317.49932FBC0001185200002C3522216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> <499319AD.60101@GotSlack.org> <021120092006.11317.49932FBC0001185200002C3522216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: >While planning your Harbor Freight/Northern Tool trailer project don't forget: http://www.usafuneralhomesonline.com/ I think that link would be of more use to the people driving behind you. -g On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:06 PM, wrote: > tinydog added: > > While planning your Harbor Freight/Northern Tool trailer project don't forget: http://www.usafuneralhomesonline.com/ > > -------------- Original message from Michael Rowe : -------------- > > >> Northern Tool has a similar trailer that is 5' wide.http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200356494_200356494 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ggroiss at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kevinv1275 at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 13:58:21 2009 From: kevinv1275 at gmail.com (Kevin Valentine) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:58:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18B94E1C-0EF4-4B4B-A6A9-3CF87E67416A@gmail.com> On Feb 11, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Gregory Groiss wrote: > The Holy Sprite made the trip cross country on one of those. By the time the Holy Sprite got to Frank's the trailer had some serious bends it it. It may be a good trailer for short trips on VERY smooth roads but, the Pennsylvania and New Jersey sections of Rt 78 are anything but smooth. (Especially the section going into Jersey). The best I could do, hauling the Holy Sprite the last leg, was 50 MPH and when I got to Frank's the tongue was twisted from the bouncing. I personally wouldn't haul anything (I wanted to keep in one piece) any distance on one of those trailers. Just my opinion ;) Kevin V. Tuscarora, Pa From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 13:59:32 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:59:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902111259h1b77e458w525551392985e871@mail.gmail.com> Michael is partially correct but the motor and tranny came out in Kansas City and the 4 oversized wheels and tires which were stacked on the tongue came off in St. Louis. Carolyn and I pulled to from Denver to Topeka while it was still fully loaded but seldom went over 60 mph. We towed it behind our Chevy Silverado with towing package. You could barely see the trailer while towing which I didn't like. It was pretty borderline for towing on the leg I pulled. I could see slight bending in the trailer frame and tongue when looking closely. I didn't see it when it got to New Jersey, but according to several folks at that end the trailer was pretty much toast. Frank should chime in here to give you a run down on what was wrong with it. Finally, look through all the trailer options from HF or Northern. I just tossed a new Northern sale flier that had 4 different trailers listed in it. Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > The Holy Sprite made the trip cross country on one of those. >> > > 1. I thought the Holy Sprite did not have an engine for that trip, in > which case it was significantly lighter. > 2. I thought that the trailer was a bit bent up by the time it arrived in > NJ. If so, it would be useful to know what reinforcements would help. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY From cbaustin at verizon.net Wed Feb 11 14:16:10 2009 From: cbaustin at verizon.net (Charley Braum) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:16:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4980F086718D4234B56C6D4616D1664E@universal1> I've sent a couple of photos onward to be added to a link (not savvy enough myself to do that). If anyone wants them direct from me, just ask (off-list). The Holy Sprite had a drive-line and four wheels/tires for approximately 1/2 the trip, as I recall. Later, CB [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of q_heavydutytrailer.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of C_resting2.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of p1_arrivalfranks1.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of p2_arrivalfranks2.JPG] From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 14:33:49 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:33:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <021120092006.11317.49932FBC0001185200002C3522216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> <499319AD.60101@GotSlack.org> <021120092006.11317.49932FBC0001185200002C3522216128369B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902111333s6141d052x25ad602dccfa8fd8@mail.gmail.com> Great idea....Enclosed trailer! > > While planning your Harbor Freight/Northern Tool trailer project don't > forget: http://www.usafuneralhomesonline.com/ From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 14:36:16 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:36:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cash for clunkers...update Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902111336p45506109h394fc074bc60a86c@mail.gmail.com> http://echo.bluehornet.com/hostedemail/email.htm?h=bdac30dbd545c65f1624c7912547345e&CID=1454887761&ch=BACA09314FECDCF567FC741465DBCA5E From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 15:14:30 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:14:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI Northern California Listers In-Reply-To: References: <200902051314.n15DE7Ki000940@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902111414j82e2568k21caa1a2ff95c8c4@mail.gmail.com> David, I hope you will post the results so we can help. Herb On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:11 PM, David Riker wrote: > I know several of you have ventured to Chico, CA over the years for their > All British Car Meet, that has been held pretty much without fail for the > last 20 years. For the most part, the survival of the British Car scene in > Chico and that meet pretty well owe it's existence to Tony Rodriguez, the > long time owner of Economy Foriegn Car Parts, in Chico. This past month, > Tony, who is only about 50 years old, was diagnosed with stage four > cancerous brain tumors. The prognosis is not good, and at this time, I'm > told Tony is physically doing ok, but is forgetfull and easily confused. > Being self-employed, Tony has very limited health care insurance. He has a > wife, and two sons, 17 and 21. I've witnessed the outpouring of good will > from this list for strangers before, and am hoping I can rally some help, > however small for Tony. I know that without his influence and help over the > years, I probably would not have found or hung on to my love of LBC's. Can > someone who has done this before advise me on how to set up a fund on his > behalf? I've heard much complaints about PayPal, so I'm unsure if that is > the route to go. Also, if you need to order any british car parts, his > lone employee, Mike, is trying to keep the store open, as that is the family > source of income. They source parts from all the usual places and then > some. The business phone is 530-342-1821. Mike can ship anywhere. > > I'm sorry this is so jumbled up, but my thoughts are spinning a mile a > minute. Tony has been a good friend. I've lost friends and relatives > before, but never known ahead of time that it is coming. I'm two states > away now and may not get to see him again. > > David Riker From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Feb 11 15:39:51 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:39:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <499353B7.4060009@comcast.net> Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > I was at Harbor Freight and Tool supply yesterday and noticed that they sell > a trailer that is supposed to handle 1700 lbs with a floor that is 4' x 8'. > > The trailer did make it across country but even from new, it had electrical issues. If you do buy it, go out and get some US made tail lights for it right away. Or at least replace the *new and improved* sockets with some tired and true 1157 sockets that hold a bulb. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Feb 11 17:20:00 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:20:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <315E4E910E9A44F8A44A1324F9B08D09@blackbox2> A bit dodgy. Take a look through your local Craigslist. You will be suprized what you can find trailerwise. From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Feb 11 20:07:43 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:07:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Python (NLBC) Message-ID: <867418.5788.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm happy to report that Shout Factory has released the "Secret Policeman's Ball" complete collection on DVD. Great, great, great Monty Python sketches and great music (and Sting, unfortunately). I'm happy.... Ron From bkitterer at mac.com Wed Feb 11 23:12:00 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:12:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <92E76504-C025-4726-9C28-7070E0E1F25F@mac.com> In addition to the other comments the Holy Sprite trailer was a fold up trailer, hinged in the middle, which may be part of the reason that the frame was bending. If the plywood on the bed had been cut to allow it to hinge the trailer most likely would not have made the trip. As I recall it was rated just at the weight of a Sprite and the wheels, well brake drums were sitting on each corner of the trailer bed. Still it did make the journey. For several years we used an inclosed trailer to take our Sprite around the country. From that experience I would recommend If you are going to trailer your car any distance get a good trailer that has brakes. Also be sure to tie the car down very well, tie the wheels down not the frame or axles. That tie down advice almost certainly saved my car on one occasion. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 11, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> The Holy Sprite made the trip cross country on one of those. > > 1. I thought the Holy Sprite did not have an engine for that trip, > in which case it was significantly lighter. > 2. I thought that the trailer was a bit bent up by the time it > arrived in NJ. If so, it would be useful to know what > reinforcements would help. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Thu Feb 12 01:21:14 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:21:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] FW: Watch this child genius! In-Reply-To: <002201c98cd7$737eb1f0$5a7c15d0$@net.au> Message-ID: Just when we thought Frank was the genius, one of my "Joke" Listers sent THIS!!! http://tinyurl.com/bgoq5z OR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkPNoW7_0bkhttp://www.yo utube.com/watch?v=LkPNoW7_0bk This kid is UN-real !!!!! From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 04:39:51 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:39:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Supercharged Wings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430902120339udd553fck84de7357595da92c@mail.gmail.com> Ed got that picture? I'd love to see it : ) Lin On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:05 AM, brian S wrote: > For those of you that aren't on the Yahooey Bugeye list. > Nick Conklin has made up some Supercharged Healey Wing Badges, > that would surround your bonnet badge. > The are very cool looking. > If you can't get into the Photo section of the Bugeye list, > perhaps Ed can put the pics on his web site..... > > > >After a few years of playing with the idea, I finally finished the > > Supercharged Wings, I will be producing a very limited run, the > > emblems are brass, chrome plated and with inset red SUPERCHARGED > > lettering as original. I posted some pics in the photo section album > > Healey Wings...Nick > > His email is Nicolas Conklin" > NFI > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer under resto > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live : Keep your life in sync. > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 04:46:05 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:46:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FYI Northern California Listers In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10902111414j82e2568k21caa1a2ff95c8c4@mail.gmail.com> References: <200902051314.n15DE7Ki000940@mail.usimperio.com> <2ad6c6b10902111414j82e2568k21caa1a2ff95c8c4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902120346ud79c1ado6c470bb8ac41097e@mail.gmail.com> Yes Dave please let us know how we can help even if it is paypal. Linda On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:14 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > David, > > I hope you will post the results so we can help. > > Herb > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:11 PM, David Riker wrote: > > > I know several of you have ventured to Chico, CA over the years for their > > All British Car Meet, that has been held pretty much without fail for the > > last 20 years. For the most part, the survival of the British Car scene > in > > Chico and that meet pretty well owe it's existence to Tony Rodriguez, the > > long time owner of Economy Foriegn Car Parts, in Chico. This past month, > > Tony, who is only about 50 years old, was diagnosed with stage four > > cancerous brain tumors. The prognosis is not good, and at this time, I'm > > told Tony is physically doing ok, but is forgetfull and easily confused. > > Being self-employed, Tony has very limited health care insurance. He has > a > > wife, and two sons, 17 and 21. I've witnessed the outpouring of good > will > > from this list for strangers before, and am hoping I can rally some > help, > > however small for Tony. I know that without his influence and help over > the > > years, I probably would not have found or hung on to my love of LBC's. > Can > > someone who has done this before advise me on how to set up a fund on his > > behalf? I've heard much complaints about PayPal, so I'm unsure if that > is > > the route to go. Also, if you need to order any british car parts, his > > lone employee, Mike, is trying to keep the store open, as that is the > family > > source of income. They source parts from all the usual places and then > > some. The business phone is 530-342-1821. Mike can ship anywhere. > > > > I'm sorry this is so jumbled up, but my thoughts are spinning a mile a > > minute. Tony has been a good friend. I've lost friends and relatives > > before, but never known ahead of time that it is coming. I'm two states > > away now and may not get to see him again. > > > > David Riker > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Thu Feb 12 06:00:21 2009 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:00:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Supercharged Wings In-Reply-To: <205cef430902120339udd553fck84de7357595da92c@mail.gmail.com > References: <205cef430902120339udd553fck84de7357595da92c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200902121300.n1CD0fEL005777@mail.usimperio.com> Here is the pics of the wings for you folks not in the yahoo bugeye group http://www.brrta.org/wings/ Dave At 06:39 AM 2/12/2009, you wrote: >Ed got that picture? I'd love to see it : ) >Lin > >On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:05 AM, brian S wrote: > > > For those of you that aren't on the Yahooey Bugeye list. > > Nick Conklin has made up some Supercharged Healey Wing Badges, > > that would surround your bonnet badge. > > The are very cool looking. > > If you can't get into the Photo section of the Bugeye list, > > perhaps Ed can put the pics on his web site..... > > > > > > >After a few years of playing with the idea, I finally finished the > > > > Supercharged Wings, I will be producing a very limited run, the > > > > emblems are brass, chrome plated and with inset red SUPERCHARGED > > > > lettering as original. I posted some pics in the photo section album > > > > Healey Wings...Nick > > > > His email is Nicolas Conklin" > > > NFI > > Brian S. > > Bugeyeracer under resto From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 06:10:39 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:10:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Supercharged Wings In-Reply-To: <200902121300.n1CD0fEL005777@mail.usimperio.com> References: <205cef430902120339udd553fck84de7357595da92c@mail.gmail.com> <200902121300.n1CD0fEL005777@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902120510h728e6a0fs2969525e93a24fac@mail.gmail.com> Cool I thought that was it as I have seen it on Jay's website and always liked it. Anyone hear from Jay I haven't in ages. Lin On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Dave Yealy wrote: > Here is the pics of the wings for you folks not in the yahoo bugeye group > > http://www.brrta.org/wings/ > > Dave > > > > > At 06:39 AM 2/12/2009, you wrote: > >> Ed got that picture? I'd love to see it : ) >> Lin >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:05 AM, brian S wrote: >> >> > For those of you that aren't on the Yahooey Bugeye list. >> > Nick Conklin has made up some Supercharged Healey Wing Badges, >> > that would surround your bonnet badge. >> > The are very cool looking. >> > If you can't get into the Photo section of the Bugeye list, >> > perhaps Ed can put the pics on his web site..... >> > >> > >> > >After a few years of playing with the idea, I finally finished the >> > >> > Supercharged Wings, I will be producing a very limited run, the >> > >> > emblems are brass, chrome plated and with inset red SUPERCHARGED >> > >> > lettering as original. I posted some pics in the photo section album >> > >> > Healey Wings...Nick >> > >> > His email is Nicolas Conklin" > > >> > NFI >> > Brian S. >> > Bugeyeracer under resto >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 06:15:40 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:15:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> <499319AD.60101@GotSlack.org> Message-ID: <205cef430902120515h16a1e42flaeb4d2e1b941a8ec@mail.gmail.com> I like this one too : ) Lin On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Northern Tool has a similar trailer that is 5' wide. > > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200356494_200356494 > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From fastvee at yahoo.com Thu Feb 12 06:28:36 2009 From: fastvee at yahoo.com (fastvee) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 05:28:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Lower Control Arms Message-ID: <738283.37847.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Buyer beware! I think I know where the weak points are, and I'll bet it won't take the buyer long to find them. Three bids on this trash already. http://tinyurl.com/d5b6nq John Fogelsville, PA From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Feb 12 08:21:33 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:21:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <92E76504-C025-4726-9C28-7070E0E1F25F@mac.com> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> <92E76504-C025-4726-9C28-7070E0E1F25F@mac.com> Message-ID: <39DAC3354D5B44AAB06F49FC30662FBE@Home> I checked that model and found that the current rating is 1150# instead of 1450#, which is what Buster says was the rating when he bought it. I think the trailer with a 1750# rating (#94564-VGA) might be a reasonable choice for short distances and mild conditions. The tilting mechanism might be a weak point. No brakes, though. If you have any metal-working skills, Northern Tools sells parts including those with brakes. Not cheap. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 12 08:22:13 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:22:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Lower Control Arms In-Reply-To: <738283.37847.qm@web34401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <71569.5843.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 2/12/09, fastvee wrote: "I think I know where the weak points are" John, Not doubting you at all, just curious what you think the weak point is and if I hit on the same one (in my admittedly non-professional-engineering mind). Where the Heims bolt into the flat plate? That's what would concern me - you think maybe some additional gusseting / triangulated bracing behind the plate to help carry the twisting up to the rest of the arm would be called for? It seems to be an interesting idea if not the most wonderful execution of that idea. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Feb 12 09:03:02 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:03:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Supercharged Wings In-Reply-To: <205cef430902120510h728e6a0fs2969525e93a24fac@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902120339udd553fck84de7357595da92c@mail.gmail.com> <200902121300.n1CD0fEL005777@mail.usimperio.com> <205cef430902120510h728e6a0fs2969525e93a24fac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: These are the same wings available from Ray English in Austrailia. Just bought a pair from him. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Cool I thought that was it as I have seen it on Jay's website and always > liked it. Anyone hear from Jay I haven't in ages. > Lin > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Dave Yealy >wrote: > > > Here is the pics of the wings for you folks not in the yahoo bugeye group > > > > http://www.brrta.org/wings/ > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > At 06:39 AM 2/12/2009, you wrote: > > > >> Ed got that picture? I'd love to see it : ) > >> Lin > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 7:05 AM, brian S wrote: > >> > >> > For those of you that aren't on the Yahooey Bugeye list. > >> > Nick Conklin has made up some Supercharged Healey Wing Badges, > >> > that would surround your bonnet badge. > >> > The are very cool looking. > >> > If you can't get into the Photo section of the Bugeye list, > >> > perhaps Ed can put the pics on his web site..... > >> > > >> > > >> > >After a few years of playing with the idea, I finally finished the > >> > > >> > Supercharged Wings, I will be producing a very limited run, the > >> > > >> > emblems are brass, chrome plated and with inset red SUPERCHARGED > >> > > >> > lettering as original. I posted some pics in the photo section album > >> > > >> > Healey Wings...Nick > >> > > >> > His email is Nicolas Conklin" >> > > >> > NFI > >> > Brian S. > >> > Bugeyeracer under resto > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cmlove at knology.net Thu Feb 12 10:44:15 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 11:44:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Push Rod question Message-ID: <1234460655.15219.1.camel@linux4monty> Is there a clip or ring or something that holds the push rod onto the master cylinder? If there is, does anyone have a spare they are willing to part with. I just rebuilt my Master Cylinder and It didn't have a holder when I took it apart, but it looks like there should be one. Thanks, Monty Love Huntsville, Alabama From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 12 12:54:43 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:54:43 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Oxygen or Equinox, Jarre - no LBC Message-ID: Hi list, My daughter is listening to some appalling Crazy Frog rip-off of either Oxygen or Equinox and I'd like to treat her to the real thing but don't know which it is. Does anyone have a MP3 of either they can e-mail me? Thanks Weslake-Monza 1330 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 12 13:04:01 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:04:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Oxygen or Equinox, Jarre - no LBC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <517935.18579.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sorry - I've J.M.Jarre vinyl, but nothing remotely digital... good luck. --- On Thu, 2/12/09, WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Feb 12 16:32:14 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:32:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] couple of local sprites Message-ID: No interest on my part, but close enough to me that I could check on one if seriously interested. Both look pretty reasonable to me. http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1031807194.html http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/1024833020.html Glen From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Feb 12 17:31:54 2009 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:31:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity Message-ID: <22587344.1234485114905.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> FABRICATORS o ENGINEERS o METAL ARTISTS o ADVANCED HOBBYISTS o Not enough room at home to build that special project? o Got the savvy and experience but not the proper tools? INTRODUCING : THE METAL SHOP The South Bay Do-It-Yourself Metal shop A unique new way to do projects that require more than a "home shop" could ever provide in a reasonable time share, club-like atmosphere in the South Bay. Easy freeway access . This is a fully equipped heated metalworking shop space that artists, and metalworking enthusiasts can utilize on a monthly basis with 24 hour, 7 day per week access. OPEN HOUSE INVITATION Saturday, February 14th o 10:00AM - 3:00PM Sunday, February 15th o 10:00AM - 3:00PM Come by and see the shop space, and the tools - Refreshments will be served Meet the people you could be working with. The Metal Shop 184B Morris Lane, Campbell, CA 95008 408-395-3783 evenings ask for Bob www.themetalshop.org We are ready to start operation and accept monthly memberships. o What tools are provided in the shop? The shop has a Bridgeport Milling machine with digital readout, 16"x40" metal lathe, machine tooling and measuring tools, drill presses, TIG welding. MIG welding, Oxyacetylene, compressed air, hand and power tools, and moreb&. o Can I use "The Metalshop" anytime? Yes, 24 hours a day 7 days a week during your paid up month. o How many people will use the shop and what does it cost to sign up? The shop is being offered to the first 10 members, each paying $250 per month. Rent for each month will be due on the last Saturday of the previous month. For users that consume excessive amounts of electricity, and consumables like welding gas there will be an additional charge. o About Bob, The shop Director: Bob Seinfeld has previously taught metalworking and welding for more than thirty years. Additional skill sets involve building electric cars for the highway, and mentoring high school robotics teams that participate in the US FIRST Robotics program. DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY - CHECK IT OUT Look at the web site www.themetalshop.org RSVP to joyce at joycesteinfeld.com or 408-395-3783 From lindalnhvt at nhvt.net Thu Feb 12 18:46:40 2009 From: lindalnhvt at nhvt.net (lindalnhvt at nhvt.net) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:46:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] mini Message-ID: <50596.72.71.233.139.1234489600.squirrel@virtwebmail.nhvt.net> Anyone have experience buying a mini from "humberviews" in Yorkshire, England? Dick B. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 12 19:10:56 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:10:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: <22587344.1234485114905.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Where is South Bay? Is there a North Bay?? From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Feb 12 19:14:17 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:14:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090213021418.DOOS18774.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> I'm close to the green one if that helps. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets- Opportunity Where is South Bay? Is there a North Bay?? From millerls at ado13.com Thu Feb 12 19:15:22 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:15:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity References: Message-ID: <738D244F2EBD42E3A6B9D47C5E75ECA8@HP> Yeah, Marin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: ; ; ; Cc: ; ; Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity > Where is South Bay? Is there a North Bay?? From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 12 19:21:00 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:21:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4994D90C.5080404@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: > Where is South Bay? Is there a North Bay?? > We have Great Egg and Little Egg. And when you are not from around here and the headlines read "Brick man shoot Little Egg man in hunting accident" You might wonder be we know what it means. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Feb 12 19:28:20 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:28:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: <4994D90C.5080404@comcast.net> References: <4994D90C.5080404@comcast.net> Message-ID: >From http://www.legendsofamerica.com/LA-OddPlaceNames.html we have Bivalve, Brick, Ho-Ho Kus, Little Egg Harbor, Love Ladies, Succasuna (New Jersey) =============================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:21 PM To: Billy Zoom Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity Billy Zoom wrote: > Where is South Bay? Is there a North Bay?? > We have Great Egg and Little Egg. And when you are not from around here and the headlines read "Brick man shoot Little Egg man in hunting accident" You might wonder be we know what it means. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ _______________________________________________ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Thu Feb 12 20:24:57 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:24:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity Message-ID: <3c45601c98d8a$a50c9bc0$116a010a@mail2world.com> and nearby: Balltown, Bird-in-Hand, Blue Ball, Climax, Drab, Experiment, Fear Not, Gobbler's Knob, Hempfield, Intercourse, Loyalsockville, Panic, Porkey, Scalp Level, Uno, Virginville (Pennsylvania) Virginville is down the road from Intercourse... -=Chris (10 miles south of Buttzville, NJ) Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: corvallis at peoplepc.com [corvallis at peoplepc.com] >Sent: 2/12/2009 9:29:20 PM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity > >>From http://www.legendsofamerica.com/LA-OddPlaceNames.html we have > >Bivalve, Brick, Ho-Ho Kus, Little Egg Harbor, Love Ladies, Succasuna (New >Jersey) >=============================================== >-----Original Message----- >From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Frank Clarici >Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:21 PM >To: Billy Zoom >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use >Opportunity > >Billy Zoom wrote: >> Where is South Bay? Is there a North Bay?? >> >We have Great Egg and Little Egg. >And when you are not from around here and the headlines read >"Brick man shoot Little Egg man in hunting accident" You might wonder be >we know what it means. > >-- >Frank Clarici >Toms River, NJ >_______________________________________________ >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From shop at justbrits.com Thu Feb 12 21:10:59 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:10:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: <3c45601c98d8a$a50c9bc0$116a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: Yo JD !!! Weez gots to stand UP, 'cause these lame a**ed folks seem to NEVER have been to Michigan !!!!! I will defer to YOU to tell them to go ........ PPP From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 12 21:38:10 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:38:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: <4994D90C.5080404@comcast.net> Message-ID: That's like saying you're in the Tri-State area. They never seem to realize there are dozens of places where three states touch. I thought South Bay meant around Hermosa Beach. >> Where is South Bay? Is there a North Bay?? >> > We have Great Egg and Little Egg. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 12 21:43:24 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:43:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, lots of cute jokes, but I still have no idea what part of the world that metal shop is in. I guess I'll have to Google Campbell, CA. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 12 21:46:47 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:46:47 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, I Googled it. South Bay is about seven hours north of here. From herby at herbytoys.com Thu Feb 12 21:51:08 2009 From: herby at herbytoys.com (Herby) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:51:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Campbell is near San Jose (as in about 8 miles) Herby 63 MKII Sprite (Herbytoy - soon on the market) 62 MKII Sprite (the "resto-mod" driver) 00 Dakota R/T (the new toy) herby at herbytoys.com www.herbytoys.com OK, lots of cute jokes, but I still have no idea what part of the world that metal shop is in. I guess I'll have to Google Campbell, CA. _______________________________________________ From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 23:32:26 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:32:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: <22587344.1234485114905.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <22587344.1234485114905.JavaMail.root@mswamui-bichon.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <499513FA.8050606@gmail.com> Sort of like http://techshop.ws/ -g rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net wrote: > FABRICATORS o ENGINEERS o METAL ARTISTS o ADVANCED HOBBYISTS > > o Not enough room at home to build that special project? > > o Got the savvy and experience but not the proper tools? > > INTRODUCING : THE METAL SHOP > > The South Bay Do-It-Yourself Metal shop > > A unique new way to do projects that require more than a "home shop" could > ever > provide in a reasonable time share, club-like atmosphere in the South Bay. > Easy > freeway access . > > This is a fully equipped heated metalworking shop space that artists, > and metalworking enthusiasts can utilize on a monthly basis with 24 hour, > 7 day per week access. > > OPEN HOUSE INVITATION > > Saturday, February 14th o 10:00AM - 3:00PM > Sunday, February 15th o 10:00AM - 3:00PM > > Come by and see the shop space, and the tools - Refreshments will be served > Meet the people you could be working with. > > The Metal Shop > 184B Morris Lane, > Campbell, CA 95008 > 408-395-3783 evenings ask for Bob > www.themetalshop.org > > We are ready to start operation and accept monthly memberships. > > o What tools are provided in the shop? > > The shop has a Bridgeport Milling machine with digital readout, > 16"x40" metal lathe, machine tooling and measuring tools, drill > presses, TIG welding. MIG welding, Oxyacetylene, compressed air, > hand and power tools, and moreb&. > > o Can I use "The Metalshop" anytime? > > Yes, 24 hours a day 7 days a week during your paid up month. > > o How many people will use the shop and what does it cost to sign up? > > The shop is being offered to the first 10 members, each paying $250 per > month. > Rent for each month will be due on the last Saturday of the previous month. > For > users that consume excessive amounts of electricity, and consumables like > welding gas there will be an additional charge. > > o About Bob, The shop Director: > > Bob Seinfeld has previously taught metalworking and welding for more than > thirty years. Additional skill sets involve building electric cars for > the highway, and mentoring high school robotics teams that participate > in the US FIRST Robotics program. > > DON'T MISS OUT ON THIS UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY - CHECK IT OUT > Look at the web site www.themetalshop.org > RSVP to joyce at joycesteinfeld.com or 408-395-3783 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Feb 13 07:09:37 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:09:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There is a North Bay. It's a bit far from you though, wherever you are. http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&tab=wl&q=north%20bay%20on ----Original Message Follows---- >> Where is South Bay? Is there a North Bay?? From bighealey at charter.net Fri Feb 13 07:19:55 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:19:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch Message-ID: <07B2350F890B4579926A15F4C35A0EAF@TRACY> UUUrgghhh !! Where can I get a durable headlight switch for a 1976 Midget? The one I got from Moss fell apart. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From bighealey at charter.net Fri Feb 13 07:27:57 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 06:27:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <07B2350F890B4579926A15F4C35A0EAF@TRACY> Message-ID: Has anybody relayed the headlights to save the switch. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Drummond Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:20 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch UUUrgghhh !! Where can I get a durable headlight switch for a 1976 Midget? The one I got from Moss fell apart. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Feb 13 08:16:21 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 09:16:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch References: Message-ID: > Has anybody relayed the headlights to save the switch. Yes. It is easy and effective and I highly recommend it. I mount the relays on the cover that goes where the RHD pedalbox would be and tap into the wires going by at the fender to feed the lights. Blue/White for one set of beams and Blue/Red for the others. I cut the wires and solder a bullet connector onto each of the four ends. This allows me to use a pair of sleeve connectors to bypass the lot if something were to go wrong. You will need two relays (readily available from Summitracing.com) or a third if you want to do the horns, too. Buy the wiring harnesses with the relays. Plenty of diagrams on the web, but the gist of it is that the wire coming from the dipswitch controls the relay, the load is the wire to the headlight, I install a fused feed from the starter solenoid to supply the power. It not only saves the headlight switch, it also saves the dimmer switch. David Lieb From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Feb 13 08:17:52 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:17:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: References: <07B2350F890B4579926A15F4C35A0EAF@TRACY> Message-ID: <442962874.20090213071752@pacifier.com> Hello Tracy, There is a WHOLE discussion about Headlight relays, and relays in general over on the British Car Forum, Spridgets discussion group.. Start here . http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/546377/1 Short answer .. yes, they do it all the time. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" I'm neither for, nor against apathy From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 09:22:00 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:22:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] HF and Northern Tool trailers Message-ID: <43840a7e0902130822i74a7a132jafacc87dfcb64a25@mail.gmail.com> All, This is in reference to recent discussion on HF and Northern Tool trailers. Charlie Braum sent me some pictures of the condition of the Holy Sprite trailer on the eastern end of its journey. I put them online for all to view at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/13600244 at N07/sets/72157613754452150/ -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From tinydog at snet.net Fri Feb 13 09:30:18 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:30:18 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Harbor Fright and Northern Fool trailers In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902130822i74a7a132jafacc87dfcb64a25@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <021320091630.21873.4995A019000E7BB70000557122243651029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog cautions: Anyone considering these trailers to transport cars should consider a couple of points: 1) Nothing should be run at it's limit. You are asking for trouble. You are assuming everything will work 100% within it's design and nothing will fail. 2) While you might only lose something material, you could be endangering others should the trailer fail. If you can't afford a proper trailer, reconsider whether you need a trailer at all. Back to my rawhide. -------------- Original message from Jim Johnson : -------------- > All, > > This is in reference to recent discussion on HF and Northern Tool trailers. > Charlie Braum sent me some pictures of the condition of the Holy Sprite > trailer on the eastern end of its journey. I put them online for all to view > at: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/13600244 at N07/sets/72157613754452150/ From bighealey at charter.net Fri Feb 13 09:43:29 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:43:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47794DA8A3994D1DB483E81AF5488042@TRACY> Ok makes sense. I'll arm myself with some relays and bullets. Now how about the physical switch itself. The design of the new one that just broke is faulty due to the frailness of the end product although it is attractive enough. All show and no go as they say. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:16 AM To: Tracy Drummond; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch > Has anybody relayed the headlights to save the switch. Yes. It is easy and effective and I highly recommend it. I mount the relays on the cover that goes where the RHD pedalbox would be and tap into the wires going by at the fender to feed the lights. Blue/White for one set of beams and Blue/Red for the others. I cut the wires and solder a bullet connector onto each of the four ends. This allows me to use a pair of sleeve connectors to bypass the lot if something were to go wrong. You will need two relays (readily available from Summitracing.com) or a third if you want to do the horns, too. Buy the wiring harnesses with the relays. Plenty of diagrams on the web, but the gist of it is that the wire coming from the dipswitch controls the relay, the load is the wire to the headlight, I install a fused feed from the starter solenoid to supply the power. It not only saves the headlight switch, it also saves the dimmer switch. David Lieb From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 09:53:20 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:53:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <47794DA8A3994D1DB483E81AF5488042@TRACY> References: <47794DA8A3994D1DB483E81AF5488042@TRACY> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902130853u3051d0bep49e2c63700f291e5@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > > All show and no go as they say. > How do you say that in Chinese? ;-) This is precisely the problem Frank keeps railing about. I don't remember how many Chinese repro parts we used on the Holy Sprite that broke the first time they were used. One would be too many but there were way more than that. Fortunately Frank had some original switches he had stripped out of wrecks and we cleaned and repaired one of them for the Holy Sprite. If you still have your old switch, it can probably be fixed.... -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From bighealey at charter.net Fri Feb 13 09:56:15 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:56:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Harbor Fright and Northern Fool trailers In-Reply-To: <021320091630.21873.4995A019000E7BB70000557122243651029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <1C90C0A6C84046698BEF2846E518D13F@TRACY> Well how about that! Disposable trailers!! What'll they think of next? Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:30 AM To: The Comedy List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Harbor Fright and Northern Fool trailers tinydog cautions: Anyone considering these trailers to transport cars should consider a couple of points: 1) Nothing should be run at it's limit. You are asking for trouble. You are assuming everything will work 100% within it's design and nothing will fail. 2) While you might only lose something material, you could be endangering others should the trailer fail. If you can't afford a proper trailer, reconsider whether you need a trailer at all. Back to my rawhide. -------------- Original message from Jim Johnson : -------------- > All, > > This is in reference to recent discussion on HF and Northern Tool trailers. > Charlie Braum sent me some pictures of the condition of the Holy Sprite > trailer on the eastern end of its journey. I put them online for all to view > at: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/13600244 at N07/sets/72157613754452150/ You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 10:01:46 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:01:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Harbor Fright and Northern Fool trailers In-Reply-To: <1C90C0A6C84046698BEF2846E518D13F@TRACY> References: <021320091630.21873.4995A019000E7BB70000557122243651029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <1C90C0A6C84046698BEF2846E518D13F@TRACY> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902130901v3811396ahd1cf9b2c8c2e099@mail.gmail.com> I think the point here is not that these trailers are particularly bad or "disposable" but that one should consider the application the trailer will be used for. I have one of these trailers that I have used for many years quite successfully for transporting motorcycles. I've never had more than about 800# on it and for that application the trailer works well and lasts a long time. I would NEVER put my Midget on it, however. It just isn't made for that application. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > Well how about that! > > Disposable trailers!! > > What'll they think of next? > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tinydog at snet.net > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:30 AM > To: The Comedy List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Harbor Fright and Northern Fool trailers > > tinydog cautions: > > Anyone considering these trailers to transport cars should consider a > couple > of points: > > 1) Nothing should be run at it's limit. You are asking for trouble. You are > assuming everything will work 100% within it's design and nothing will > fail. > > 2) While you might only lose something material, you could be endangering > others should the trailer fail. > > If you can't afford a proper trailer, reconsider whether you need a trailer > at all. > > Back to my rawhide. > > -------------- Original message from Jim Johnson : > -------------- > > > > All, > > > > This is in reference to recent discussion on HF and Northern Tool > trailers. > > Charlie Braum sent me some pictures of the condition of the Holy Sprite > > trailer on the eastern end of its journey. I put them online for all to > view > > at: > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/13600244 at N07/sets/72157613754452150/ From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 10:01:45 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:01:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <47794DA8A3994D1DB483E81AF5488042@TRACY> References: <47794DA8A3994D1DB483E81AF5488042@TRACY> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902130901y7c36a1eey2265064cb4439663@mail.gmail.com> I haven't done a Spridget but I did some on a Miata to get the high and low beams to come on together(Brainstorm Lo-Pro Kit). I found a good deal on fleabay for Bosch relay/socket set for like $2.50 each. Having two 100W aircraft landing lights on at the same time as two 55W low beam lights really cuts through the dark. From peter at nosimport.com Fri Feb 13 10:09:55 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:09:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Harbor Fright and Northern Fool trailers In-Reply-To: <1C90C0A6C84046698BEF2846E518D13F@TRACY> References: <021320091630.21873.4995A019000E7BB70000557122243651029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <1C90C0A6C84046698BEF2846E518D13F@TRACY> Message-ID: <200902130909596.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 10:56 AM 2/13/2009, Tracy Drummond wrote: >Well how about that! > >Disposable trailers!! > >What'll they think of next? > >Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! >President AHCUSA www.healey.org ===== Disposable headlight switches, I'm thinkin' ED From dwgwater at hotmail.com Fri Feb 13 10:57:18 2009 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:57:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <47794DA8A3994D1DB483E81AF5488042@TRACY> References: <47794DA8A3994D1DB483E81AF5488042@TRACY> Message-ID: I'll add my "me too" to this. I'm very happy with it and the lights work much better. I put the relays on the back of the radiator shroud, so I can keep an eye on things. One for hi beams, one for lo beams I got the relays from partsexpress.com fwiw I liked this article too http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/relays/relays.html Dave > From: bighealey at charter.net> To: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com; spridgets at autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 08:43:29 -0800> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch> > Ok makes sense. I'll arm myself with some relays and bullets.> > Now how about the physical switch itself. The design of the new one that> just broke is faulty due to the frailness of the end product although it is> attractive enough. All show and no go as they say.> > > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily !> President AHCUSA www.healey.org> > -----Original Message-----> From: David Lieb [mailto:dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com]> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:16 AM> To: Tracy Drummond; Spridget List> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch> > > Has anybody relayed the headlights to save the switch.> > Yes. It is easy and effective and I highly recommend it. I mount the relays> on the cover that goes where the RHD pedalbox would be and tap into the> wires going by at the fender to feed the lights. Blue/White for one set of> beams and Blue/Red for the others. I cut the wires and solder a bullet> connector onto each of the four ends. This allows me to use a pair of sleeve> > connectors to bypass the lot if something were to go wrong.> > You will need two relays (readily available from Summitracing.com) or a> third if you want to do the horns, too. Buy the wiring harnesses with the> relays. Plenty of diagrams on the web, but the gist of it is that the wire> coming from the dipswitch controls the relay, the load is the wire to the> headlight, I install a fused feed from the starter solenoid to supply the> power.> > It not only saves the headlight switch, it also saves the dimmer switch.> David Lieb> _______________________________________________> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > You are subscribed as dwgwater at hotmail.com> > http://www.team.net/archive> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Feb 13 11:04:42 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:04:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Harbor Fright and Northern Fool trailers References: <021320091630.21873.4995A019000E7BB70000557122243651029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: > Anyone considering these trailers to transport cars should consider a > couple of points: > 1) Nothing should be run at it's limit. You are asking for trouble. You > are assuming everything will work 100% within it's design and nothing will > fail. > 2) While you might only lose something material, you could be endangering > others should the trailer fail. > If you can't afford a proper trailer, reconsider whether you need a > trailer at all. > Back to my rawhide. Sounds like someone gets fed by a southern baptist preacher... From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 11:27:29 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:27:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Chinese Message-ID: <37dc82d40902131027w21e26b55wcaff5ef4630a0c7a@mail.gmail.com> Chinese made caskets for a Chinese made trailer? Kirk 59 BE From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 11:34:10 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:34:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question Message-ID: <37dc82d40902131034j18526defh2b6524b0b116949a@mail.gmail.com> Kevin, Helpful info. We have some pretty out of shape roads up my way as well. It looks like this trailer would have to have a lot of reinforcement pieces welded into place. Sounds like the metal in this trailer is not very dependable, as all things that come from that part of the world. I will say. . . . I have a Chinese made SKS Rifle. The wood stock on the thing looks rough, but the mechanism will not jam, no matter what. Somehow they pulled it off when putting together the internals on that gun. I used to be able to get them at $99.00 bucks a pop - and at the same time Russian AK's for $300 a pop. Russian SKS rifles went for 150 each - and at the time the Russian version did not have to be registered as it was considered a "curio item." That was in the mid / early 1990's. Before the Brady Bill. Boy that Brady Bill, we sure miss that, don't we? Great legislation it was. LOL Kirk From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 11:42:45 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:42:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer I am looking at? Message-ID: <37dc82d40902131042p2c69aaafl8a600fb265d3742@mail.gmail.com> Jim, Yes - that is the one. They have it for 349.0. So far I know (from Frank) that the lights should be replaced and from the list that I will have a good amount of re-inforcement welding to do. We have some BAD roads out this way (California roads). Thanks! Kirk 59 BE From dwramsey at att.net Fri Feb 13 11:51:56 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:51:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opportunity In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090213185220.B6ECE187872@autox.team.net> There is even an East bay, I've never heard of the Peninsula called the west bay, but you never know. If you can get there in 7 hours you're moving son. Crash Where is South Bay? Is there a North Bay?? From cmlove at knology.net Fri Feb 13 12:31:11 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:31:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bench bleeding Brake Master Cylinder Message-ID: <006101c98e11$a07db170$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Thanks to all who replied about the brake push rod question. I was wondering about "Bench bleeding" the Brake Master Cylinder. I have a good idea of why you do that and I think how, except for the how of hooking up tubes to the outlets to run back into the main reservoir. Do you use plastic tubing? 1/4in.? Any help would be appreciated. Charles M. "Monty" Love Dynetics, Inc. 256-461-2780 256-337-5581 (Cell) 256-882-1543 (Home) ET Test The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Feb 13 13:14:54 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:14:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Has anybody relayed the headlights to save the switch. I think most people just do it to make the lights brighter. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Feb 13 13:33:41 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:33:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch References: Message-ID: >> Has anybody relayed the headlights to save the switch. > I think most people just do it to make the lights brighter. I am the exception then. I did mine to save the switches. Brighter headlights was a welcome side-effect, however. David Lieb From cclabaw at juno.com Fri Feb 13 13:46:40 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:46:40 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity Message-ID: <20090213.124640.6375.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Do you know the way to San Jose? Clay L. -- Billy Zoom wrote: OK, I Googled it. South Bay is about seven hours north of here. You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Click to become an artist and quit your boring job. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2MJOmdxB6cNOrR3FNr6mY9mMD9S xGfvwap3u7QbeIH9mURO/ From cclabaw at juno.com Fri Feb 13 13:49:23 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:49:23 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch Message-ID: <20090213.124923.6375.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Also try Holden Vintage Electric in GB. Clay L. -- Bill L wrote: Hello Tracy, There is a WHOLE discussion about Headlight relays, and relays in general over on the British Car Forum, Spridgets discussion group.. Start here . http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/546377/1 Short answer .. yes, they do it all the time. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" I'm neither for, nor against apathy You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Find the perfect flag pole to display your most cherished flag. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw1vt2yvXLdiHwbFDe2XZ5zLSmPcW jd6Zp7b9Q4sGKZir5Olm/ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Feb 13 13:59:02 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:59:02 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity Message-ID: Lal lal lal la la In a message dated 13/02/2009 20:48:08 GMT Standard Time, cclabaw at juno.com writes: Do you know the way to San Jose? Clay L. From jjkan5 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 13 14:29:01 2009 From: jjkan5 at yahoo.com (John Kuzman) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:29:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bench bleeding Brake Master Cylinder In-Reply-To: <006101c98e11$a07db170$6501a8c0@se.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <884649.87153.qm@web63305.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Monty, I screw a brake bleeder into the MC outlet, attach a tube to the bleeder nipple, run the tube back into the MC and just bleed it like a wheel cylinder.. When finished, I tighten the bleed screw and leave it in place until I re-mount the MC. John --- On Fri, 2/13/09, Monty Love wrote: From: Monty Love Subject: [Spridgets] Bench bleeding Brake Master Cylinder To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 2:31 PM Thanks to all who replied about the brake push rod question. I was wondering about "Bench bleeding" the Brake Master Cylinder. I have a good idea of why you do that and I think how, except for the how of hooking up tubes to the outlets to run back into the main reservoir. Do you use plastic tubing? 1/4in.? Any help would be appreciated. Charles M. "Monty" Love Dynetics, Inc. 256-461-2780 256-337-5581 (Cell) 256-882-1543 (Home) ET Test The greatest revolutions come not by the discovery of something new. They happen when someone radically changes or challenges what was always there. You are subscribed as jjkan5 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Feb 13 14:33:03 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:33:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <915938029.20090213133303@pacifier.com> Hello, My daughter goes to Harvey Mudd College. The have for central dorms. East, West, North and South in order of construction. East is. West is West of East and South of South. South is North of West, and East of North North is East of South and North of East. Go Figure -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Acid consumes 47 times its weight in excess reality. From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Feb 13 14:36:34 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:36:34 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity In-Reply-To: <915938029.20090213133303@pacifier.com> References: <915938029.20090213133303@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <4995E7E2.30103@frontiernet.net> HUH????????? Bill L wrote: > Hello, > > My daughter goes to Harvey Mudd College. The have for central > dorms. East, West, North and South in order of construction. > > East is. > West is West of East and South of South. > South is North of West, and East of North > North is East of South and North of East. > > Go Figure From biffjones at verizon.net Fri Feb 13 14:51:27 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:51:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity References: <915938029.20090213133303@pacifier.com> <4995E7E2.30103@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <040A734E8880473AA30188E65985FD57@dell1> It' clear as Mudd........................................ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Bales" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 4:36 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity > HUH????????? > > > Bill L wrote: >> Hello, >> >> My daughter goes to Harvey Mudd College. The have for central >> dorms. East, West, North and South in order of construction. >> >> East is. >> West is West of East and South of South. >> South is North of West, and East of North >> North is East of South and North of East. >> >> Go Figure [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 02/13/09 06:51:00 From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Feb 13 14:58:15 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:58:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity In-Reply-To: <040A734E8880473AA30188E65985FD57@dell1> References: , <040A734E8880473AA30188E65985FD57@dell1> Message-ID: <49957C77.29940.16454F9@kk7ss.verizon.net> It's one 'd' and lower case 'm' as in "as clear as mud" Two 'd's and upper case 'M' as in "His name is Mudd" Look up the reason on wikipedia.... it's most interesting... the difference cost me a steak dinner.... I'm a poor loser so I learn quickly ;-)) On 13 Feb 2009 at 16:51, Biff Jones wrote: >> It' clear as Mudd. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Feb 13 15:42:02 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:42:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity In-Reply-To: <4995E7E2.30103@frontiernet.net> References: <915938029.20090213133303@pacifier.com> <4995E7E2.30103@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <3410042769.20090213144202@pacifier.com> Hello, It was too confusing... East is West is West of East and South of South South is North of West and WEST of North North is North of East and East of South -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Lead me not into temptation; I can find it myself. From billmasq at hotmail.com Fri Feb 13 16:41:09 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:41:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Harbor Fright and Northern Fool trailers In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902130901v3811396ahd1cf9b2c8c2e099@mail.gmail.com> References: <021320091630.21873.4995A019000E7BB70000557122243651029B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <1C90C0A6C84046698BEF2846E518D13F@TRACY> <43840a7e0902130901v3811396ahd1cf9b2c8c2e099@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Actually I have hauled Spridgets several times on the common,bottom of the line 8 foot HF folding trailer (as well as a Cessna 150). Some of the trips were pretty long (Seattle-San Diego and back). Two things that I did to the trailer were: 1/ bolted a sheet of 5/8 plywood solidly to the deck (tremendously increased the rigidity) and 2/ replaced the wimpy tongue with a piece of 2" galvanized waterpipe (I NEVER trusted the original tongue). I also had to remove the fenders whenever I put a Spridget on (for clearance), but that thing is NOT squirrely on the freeway (behind a Dodge Caravan) and runs great. One big thing that I found is that those little 8" tires MUST be aired up to 55 or 60 PSI or they WILL blow out!!! Been there/done that!! It works if you use some common sense. Bill _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 13 16:54:23 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:54:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902130853u3051d0bep49e2c63700f291e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <47794DA8A3994D1DB483E81AF5488042@TRACY> <43840a7e0902130853u3051d0bep49e2c63700f291e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4996082F.9030002@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Tracy Drummond wrote: > >> All show and no go as they say. >> >> > > How do you say that in Chinese? ;-) I bet it's a Lucas India made part, green box. Any Lucas India part should be thrown out when it arrives before you aggravate yourself and try to use it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dwramsey at att.net Fri Feb 13 17:13:18 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 16:13:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <4996082F.9030002@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20090214001341.D13E618765A@autox.team.net> For half the price you could buy the parts in a white box from ACE and then follow Frank's instructions for usage. You may miss the genuine LUCAS box and sticker, but that is the only difference between them. Crash I bet it's a Lucas India made part, green box. Any Lucas India part should be thrown out when it arrives before you aggravate yourself and try to use it. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From frog.aye at gmail.com Fri Feb 13 18:58:57 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:58:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <20090214001341.D13E618765A@autox.team.net> References: <4996082F.9030002@comcast.net> <20090214001341.D13E618765A@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4333f8140902131758w78692da7p39bbeba17ffeb990@mail.gmail.com> I used Hella brand relays on FROG AYE. The sockets were more expensive than the relays 'cuz I got weatherproof sockets. Not that FROG AYE goes out in the rain, but I could get caught sometime. If we ever get any rain here in CA. Hal From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Feb 13 19:34:33 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:34:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902131758w78692da7p39bbeba17ffeb990@mail.gmail.com> References: <4996082F.9030002@comcast.net> <20090214001341.D13E618765A@autox.team.net> <4333f8140902131758w78692da7p39bbeba17ffeb990@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't know about you Hal, but it has been raining off and on for two weeks now here in San Bernardino. In fact, it is raining right now and is supposed to continue through to Monday. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > I used Hella brand relays on FROG AYE. The sockets were more expensive > than > the relays 'cuz I got weatherproof sockets. Not that FROG AYE goes out in > the rain, but I could get caught sometime. If we ever get any rain here in > CA. > Hal > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Fri Feb 13 19:52:34 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:52:34 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity References: <915938029.20090213133303@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <82766D1CA12B40AD93F98B3F664101ED@HP> LMAO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity > Hello, > > My daughter goes to Harvey Mudd College. The have for central > dorms. East, West, North and South in order of construction. > > East is. > West is West of East and South of South. > South is North of West, and East of North > North is East of South and North of East. > > Go Figure > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Acid consumes 47 times its weight in excess reality. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From davriker at nwi.net Fri Feb 13 20:23:56 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 19:23:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch References: Message-ID: <67742BE6395F499F95DBA1216E8A8F67@MAIN> Tracy They weren't durable when new, and now, even less so. The innards are very simple. an "H" shaped piece of copper, two small springs, two white pistons, if I remember correctly. Depending on what broke on the new switch, you should be able to take the cosmetic parts from the new switch and combine them with the functioning parts of a used switch and make one that is semi-durable and looks nice. Beware, the white printing will wear off quickly, and so will the thin chrome plating. Often the little green lens will fall out too. If you aren't doing a full restore, painting your old switch bezels semi-gloss black is a good way to make the old switches look pretty good. Relays are practically a must unless you are running the old non-halogen headlights. The extra amperage puts too much heat to the switch, makes the plastic brittle, and speeds the self destruct process of not only the switch, but the expensive (and poorly made) turn signal switch as well. The closer the relays are installed to the headlights, the less current loss and the brighter your headlights will be. David R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Drummond" To: Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch > Has anybody relayed the headlights to save the switch. > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Drummond > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:20 AM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch > > UUUrgghhh !! > > > > Where can I get a durable headlight switch for a 1976 Midget? > > > > The one I got from Moss fell apart. > > > > Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! > > President AHCUSA www.healey.org > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.23/1951 - Release Date: 02/13/09 06:51:00 From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 13 20:54:35 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:54:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Buffalo, NY In-Reply-To: <20090213.124923.6375.1@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: ANYBODY heard from Nory ???? I wrote her privately this AM and have no answer!!!! Me From lbc at littlebitcountry.com Fri Feb 13 21:18:45 2009 From: lbc at littlebitcountry.com (Dave Yealy) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:18:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.co m> References: <37dc82d40902111025y46f7f769oe151d899ce25aea7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200902140419.n1E4J4AZ001550@mail.usimperio.com> I built my trailer from an old boat trailer which was given to me. Total cost of material was $325 and it's rated for 2500 lbs. 12' long 6' 6" wide http://www.littlebitcountry.com/trailer/ Dave From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Fri Feb 13 22:20:15 2009 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 00:20:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Morris Pickup available SF Bay Area Message-ID: <31023961.1234588815375.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> -----Forwarded Message----- From: johnfquilter Sent: Feb 13, 2009 10:44 PM Noted a 1959 Morris pickup for sale in a consignment lot in San Bruno (10 miles south of San Francisco) California today. White in color, with black vinyl top (not in good shape), appears to have original 948cc and smooth case but advertised as a 3 speed. Maybe first gear is gone or broken?? Strangely car has a series two grill pan, cheese grater grill, and non stock (VW?)bumpers. All in all needs a lot of undoing of homemade modifications. Asking $6000 which I see as way inflated. Phone number of the consignment lot is 650-827-9700. I have no connection to this vehicle or lot, posted for info only. John Quilter Brisbane, California __._,_.___ Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Links | Database | Polls | Calendar MARKETPLACE _________________________________________________________________ From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Yahoo! Groups-[ma_grp_160.gif] Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity * 23 New Photos * 2 New Files Visit Your Group Group Charity Give a laptop Get a laptop: One laptop per child Y! Groups blog the best source for the latest scoop on Groups. Yahoo! Groups Cat Owners Group Join a community for cat lovers . [nc3=5522128] __,_._,___ From mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu Sat Feb 14 07:28:31 2009 From: mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:28:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch Message-ID: <38B3B6C2-FD90-468A-ACE6-12D5D1DD23C8@dartmouth.edu> Bill L. wrote: > There is a WHOLE discussion about Headlight relays, and relays in > general over on the British Car Forum, Spridgets discussion > group.. > > Start here . > > http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/topics/546377/1 Contained in that discussion is a reference to a Classic Motorsports article scanned from their Midget resto. Does anyone have a specific issue number, scan, or URL for this article they can share? -m From d.swanson at earthlink.net Sat Feb 14 07:46:13 2009 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:46:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailers Message-ID: <89F76674800540649DB52F27475CB427@HomeComputer> Question for possible future use: When moving a LBC (with wheels on) on a flatbed trailer (as discussed in the HF NT trailer thread), what on the trailer are you guys strapping the car down to? Most car trailer I've seen have strong attaching points for strapping to, but on these small trailers? Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII (always flat towed when broken down) From billmasq at hotmail.com Sat Feb 14 08:48:20 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 07:48:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Trailers In-Reply-To: <89F76674800540649DB52F27475CB427@HomeComputer> References: <89F76674800540649DB52F27475CB427@HomeComputer> Message-ID: I just replace a couple of the 3/8 bolts with 3/8 eye-bolts. I use four normally and haven't had any problems at all. When I put the piece of 5/8 plywood on I don't cut it in half (this way the trailer won't fold). Doing it this way is much stronger. Bill > From: d.swanson at earthlink.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 09:46:13 -0500 > Subject: [Spridgets] Trailers > > Question for possible future use: > > When moving a LBC (with wheels on) on a flatbed trailer (as discussed in the > HF NT trailer thread), what on the trailer are you guys strapping the car > down to? > > > > Most car trailer I've seen have strong attaching points for strapping to, > but on these small trailers? > > > > Dean Swanson > > '62 A.H. Sprite mkII (always flat towed when broken down) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_022009 From nory1 at roadrunner.com Sat Feb 14 10:41:09 2009 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:41:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Buffalo, NY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090214174109.DI1WR.12743.root@hrndva-web12-z01> I'm here! I've had computer issues for a while, so haven't been online much, and have had to delete a lot of stuff. Doesn't help that I've been very pressed for time lately too. The computer's in the shop now, and I'm using a loaner laptop. I'm accessing email via the web, and the bandwidth I'm allowed is very limited, so I end up deleting a lot of list mail without even reading it, just so mail doesn't bounce back. I didn't notice a private email from you Ed, but it's possible I deleted it thinking it was list mail. Sorry about that. What's up? ---- Ed's Shop wrote: > ANYBODY heard from Nory ???? > > I wrote her privately this AM and have no answer!!!! > > Me > > > > _______________________________________________ > 9issa mailing list > 9issa at justbrits.com > http://justbrits.com/mailman/listinfo/9issa_justbrits.com > http://www.justbrits.com From refisk at chartermi.net Sat Feb 14 11:02:55 2009 From: refisk at chartermi.net (Rick) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:02:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch References: <38B3B6C2-FD90-468A-ACE6-12D5D1DD23C8@dartmouth.edu> Message-ID: <058e01c98ece$7657ea10$6401a8c0@refisk> Did those guys at Classic Motorsports ever finish the Midget resto? I gave up on them and quit buying the magazine years ago - too many artuicles on restoring Suddard's latest Volvo or Datsun Z and not enough on British iron. Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark A. O'Neil" To: Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch > Contained in that discussion is a reference to a Classic Motorsports > article scanned from their Midget resto. > > Does anyone have a specific issue number, scan, or URL for this > article they can share? > > -m From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 11:21:14 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:21:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays Message-ID: <37dc82d40902141021p1c329e44uc95bea08358e2f42@mail.gmail.com> I am in the "dark" about this - relays, why are they effective? My ignition dash switch went out on me about a year ago. In the wait time to get a new switch, lock, keys, etc I wired my lights up to a simple off / on switch on my dash. My ignition switch is wired under the dash to a place that would not be obvious. I reach under the dash to turn the car on before I pull the starter (which is wired to an off / on switch behind the dash). Did I need a relay to do this? The car has been running fine like this for a good while now. Are relays used when you want two things to turn on together? Ok, stupid question. . . but I am curious regarding the application or the reason for relays? Kirk 59 BE From shop at justbrits.com Sat Feb 14 11:53:45 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:53:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Buffalo, NY In-Reply-To: <20090214174109.DI1WR.12743.root@hrndva-web12-z01> Message-ID: <> It bounced, Nory - mail box full !! No worries, be happy!! Just wondering about YOU vs plane crash!! But I can see you are OK!! Me From derf247 at gmail.com Sat Feb 14 12:14:27 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:14:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902141021p1c329e44uc95bea08358e2f42@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902141021p1c329e44uc95bea08358e2f42@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902141114u4d83dae6nce653d4d8d5ef78@mail.gmail.com> A relay is just an electric switch. They are usually used to control big power loads with small switches. Starter solenoids are relays. They just use <1amp (usually) and mechanically switch >5amps. If you are pulling the starter than you are operating a big mechanical switch for the starter. A starter solenoid uses a small electric current to do the same mechanical action as your pulling. Over time, the mechanical contacts in your headlight switch will deteriorate and be less efficient. Those contacts could be used to switch a relay, and the relay be used in turn to switch the power to the lights. Since the relay output contacts are cleaner, newer, and more efficient, you can get brighter, more reliable lights. The relay goes between the battery and the lights. The control circuit of the relay draws less power and your light switch will last much longer switching the very small control circuit power. From mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu Sat Feb 14 13:58:39 2009 From: mark.a.oneil at dartmouth.edu (Mark A. O'Neil) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:58:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <01521B87-AA88-497C-92DD-22660DDB098F@dartmouth.edu> > From: Kirk Hargreaves > > I am in the "dark" about this - relays, why are they effective? > > My ignition dash switch went out on me about a year ago. In the > wait time > to get a new switch, lock, keys, etc I wired my lights up to a > simple off / > on switch on my dash. > > My ignition switch is wired under the dash to a place that would not > be > obvious. I reach under the dash to turn the car on before I pull the > starter (which is wired to an off / on switch behind the dash). > > Did I need a relay to do this? The car has been running fine like > this for > a good while now. > > Are relays used when you want two things to turn on together? Ok, > stupid > question. . . but I am curious regarding the application or the > reason for > relays? Hi Kirk, Relays are useful for separating a high load circuit eg lights from a low load controlling circuit eg the switch. The relay switch only powers a low current coil which throws the relay closing the high current portion of the circuit. The lower current required for the switch side is generally safer for the user and easier on that side of the circuit - switches last longer. I believe in the case of our cars the reason the light switches fail is that the newer ones simply cannot hold up to the amps pushed through for extended night driving. Placing a relay in the circuit puts the load for the switch more around 30mA instead of ?20A? so the switch lasts longer. The reason lights are brighter is less voltage drops in the loop means more action at the lights. Okay that is all I've got/can remember from 1979 electronics 101. -m From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Feb 14 13:59:10 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 12:59:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <058e01c98ece$7657ea10$6401a8c0@refisk> Message-ID: <372096.51629.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 2/14/09, Rick wrote: > Did those guys at Classic Motorsports ever finish the Midget > resto? I gave up on them and quit buying the magazine years > ago Yes, several years ago - it has been at Road America at their tent several times. I unsubscribed when I realized that each issue prominently featured 2 of my least favorite writers. I like Hemmings Classic and Exotics better. Ron From jmj3351 at comcast.net Sat Feb 14 16:40:43 2009 From: jmj3351 at comcast.net (jmj3351 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:40:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Trailer Question In-Reply-To: <200902140419.n1E4J4AZ001550@mail.usimperio.com> Message-ID: <432317743.1480211234654843609.JavaMail.root@sz0087a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Mine trailer is also built from a old boat trailer. It is tandem axle and has a capacity of 3900 Lbs. I haul a lot of things in addition to LBC. I am currently working on a 50 Chev 5 window PU. JMJ green 1500----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Yealy" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:18:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Trailer Question I built my trailer from an old boat trailer which was given to me. Total cost of material was $325 and it's rated for 2500 lbs. B 12' long 6' 6" wide http://www.littlebitcountry.com/trailer/ Dave From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 14 19:51:29 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:51:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch References: <372096.51629.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5FF8543685164A49A4AA92751021E9AB@rwa> >> Did those guys at Classic Motorsports ever finish the Midget >> resto? I gave up on them and quit buying the magazine years >> ago > > Yes, several years ago - it has been at Road America at their tent several > times. I unsubscribed when I realized that each issue prominently featured > 2 of my least favorite writers. I like Hemmings Classic and Exotics > better. I agree with Ron. The first issue of Classic Motorsports had a killer article announcing the Modern Midget project and getting it started. As usual, they soon lost sight of their goal as well as losing much of their motivation (those guys can't get excited about beating a Miata). I bought the 10-year subscription and I think it will take that long before they get around to writing about the Midget engine work. Be warned, if you try to submit any constructive criticism to them, they immediately start to whine and wonder how anyone can fail to love them when they put SO much work into it. Oh well, one of these days I will get around to cancelling my subscription. Now if only Hemmings Sports & Exotics would come out twice a month... David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Feb 14 21:03:38 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:03:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Classic Motorsports In-Reply-To: <5FF8543685164A49A4AA92751021E9AB@rwa> References: <372096.51629.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5FF8543685164A49A4AA92751021E9AB@rwa> Message-ID: <4997941A.8040708@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: >>> Did those guys at Classic Motorsports ever finish the Midget >>> > Oh well, one of these days I will get around to cancelling my > subscription. I canceled my subscription a couple years ago. To slow, to much of the same junk. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Feb 15 06:02:06 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:02:06 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Relays Message-ID: A relay is used when you need to switch a larger current than the switch is designed for - eg high wattage headlamps. As well as being designed to cope with the larger current a relay is cheaper than a new switch. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 14/02/2009 18:21:30 GMT Standard Time, khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: Are relays used when you want two things to turn on together? Ok, stupid question. . . but I am curious regarding the application or the reason for relays? From nory1 at roadrunner.com Sun Feb 15 06:44:37 2009 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 8:44:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Buffalo, NY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090215134437.P52RU.17263.root@hrndva-web13-z01> Unfortunately, the bounced mail problem is occurring a lot. Roadrunner gives me a limited amount of bandwidth, and I can't get back to normal until I get my computer back. I try to keep the mailbox emptied often, but it fills up so fast. Hopefully, I'll be back to normal tomorrow. The plane crash was tragic. I live about a mile from the airport, but the planes were landing in the other direction that night, so the crash was about 5 miles from the airport in the opposite direction from my house. I'm hearing a lot of very sad stuff about it from various folks in law enforcement -- I really feel bad for the families. Buffalo is a small community, and it seems like everyone knows somebody who was either on the plane, or involved in the rescue/recovery operation. ---- Ed's Shop wrote: > < it thinking it was list mail. Sorry about that. What's up?>> > > It bounced, Nory - mail box full !! No worries, be happy!! > > Just wondering about YOU vs plane crash!! > > But I can see you are OK!! > > Me > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nory1 at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From nory1 at roadrunner.com Sun Feb 15 06:45:16 2009 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 8:45:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [9issa] Buffalo, NY Message-ID: <20090215134517.62XH1.17267.root@hrndva-web13-z01> Unfortunately, the bounced mail problem is occurring a lot. Roadrunner gives me a limited amount of bandwidth, and I can't get back to normal until I get my computer back. I try to keep the mailbox emptied often, but it fills up so fast. Hopefully, I'll be back to normal tomorrow. The plane crash was tragic. I live about a mile from the airport, but the planes were landing in the other direction that night, so the crash was about 5 miles from the airport in the opposite direction from my house. I'm hearing a lot of very sad stuff about it from various folks in law enforcement -- I really feel bad for the families. Buffalo is a small community, and it seems like everyone knows somebody who was either on the plane, or involved in the rescue/recovery operation. ---- Ed's Shop wrote: > < it thinking it was list mail. Sorry about that. What's up?>> > > It bounced, Nory - mail box full !! No worries, be happy!! > > Just wondering about YOU vs plane crash!! > > But I can see you are OK!! > > Me > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nory1 at roadrunner.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Feb 15 08:48:21 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 07:48:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1376145581.20090215074821@pacifier.com> Hello, In general, relays are used to use control one load with a DIFFERENT SIZED load. Yes, in car applications they are for switching a larger load with a smaller one, BUT, They are essentially used as circuit ISOLATORS. That is, to separate one load from another, whether of different CURRENT or VOLTAGE ratings or BOTH. Matters not whether the larger controls the smaller or vice versa, the circuits are kept from each other. They are sometimes used so that one load can control multiple other loads, or multiple relays may be arranged as crude logic circuits, and are essentially the foundation of our computer circuit boards, Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Dentist : he lives from hand to mouth. From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Sun Feb 15 10:14:20 2009 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:14:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: <1376145581.20090215074821@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <20090215171422.C5D2053BC78@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Comments on relays: As commented in a previous post "for max light output place the relay as close to the headlights as possible" I don't see the rational. If the 12v wire to the relay and the relay wire to the headlights are the same gauge and construction there would be no difference in the voltage drop no mater where the relay is placed. Further, to run a heavy gauge 12v wire that is always hot a long distance through the chassis adds risk. Think Bugeye, up around the bonnet hinge and forward under the bonnet. I would rather have the headlight leads only powered when the lights are on, a small percentage of the time. Besides if a problem occurred in the headlight lead it could be quickly turned off. One point of view Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:48 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Relays Hello, In general, relays are used to use control one load with a DIFFERENT SIZED load. Yes, in car applications they are for switching a larger load with a smaller one, BUT, They are essentially used as circuit ISOLATORS. That is, to separate one load from another, whether of different CURRENT or VOLTAGE ratings or BOTH. Matters not whether the larger controls the smaller or vice versa, the circuits are kept from each other. They are sometimes used so that one load can control multiple other loads, or multiple relays may be arranged as crude logic circuits, and are essentially the foundation of our computer circuit boards, Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Dentist : he lives from hand to mouth. You are subscribed as hgmiller3 at qwest.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.234 / Virus Database: 270.10.22/1946 - Release Date: 02/11/09 11:13:00 From egnorant at dctexas.net Sun Feb 15 13:14:16 2009 From: egnorant at dctexas.net (Bruce Lowry) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:14:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity References: <915938029.20090213133303@pacifier.com> <82766D1CA12B40AD93F98B3F664101ED@HP> Message-ID: <2836EBBD29BE46A598226AC823FF3E54@lowrybruce> I looked at this 3 times and got lost where you say that "South is East of North" and the next line says "North is East of South"???? Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry & Sandi Miller" To: "Bill L" ; Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity > LMAO > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill L" > To: > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:33 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use > Opport unity > > >> Hello, >> >> My daughter goes to Harvey Mudd College. The have for central >> dorms. East, West, North and South in order of construction. >> >> East is. >> West is West of East and South of South. >> South is North of West, and East of North >> North is East of South and North of East. >> >> Go Figure >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com >> >> '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" >> >> Acid consumes 47 times its weight in excess reality. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as millerls at ado13.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as egnorant at dctexas.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From george.brokaw at cox.net Sun Feb 15 13:50:40 2009 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:50:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Motorhead 101 - Unique Metal Shop Group Use Opport unity In-Reply-To: <2836EBBD29BE46A598226AC823FF3E54@lowrybruce> References: <915938029.20090213133303@pacifier.com> <82766D1CA12B40AD93F98B3F664101ED@HP> <2836EBBD29BE46A598226AC823FF3E54@lowrybruce> Message-ID: <054601c98faf$10307630$30916290$@brokaw@cox.net> Bill, Your description is not quite correct... It should be: East is. West is West of East and South of South. South is North of West, and *****West****(not East)***** of North North is East of South and North of East. http://www.hmc.edu/campusmap/ Google found this for me. ;^) Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> Hello, >> >> My daughter goes to Harvey Mudd College. The have for central >> dorms. East, West, North and South in order of construction. >> >> East is. >> West is West of East and South of South. >> South is North of West, and East of North >> North is East of South and North of East. >> >> Go Figure >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com From froggi60 at gmail.com Sun Feb 15 17:08:00 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:08:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget headlight switch In-Reply-To: <5FF8543685164A49A4AA92751021E9AB@rwa> References: <372096.51629.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5FF8543685164A49A4AA92751021E9AB@rwa> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902151607x2adca730p207a499908c23fe3@mail.gmail.com> Hemmings Sport & Exotics...yeah, OR...if they would send me my January issue I'd be a happy camper! Herb On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 6:51 PM, David Lieb wrote: > Did those guys at Classic Motorsports ever finish the Midget >>> resto? I gave up on them and quit buying the magazine years >>> ago >>> >> >> Yes, several years ago - it has been at Road America at their tent several >> times. I unsubscribed when I realized that each issue prominently featured 2 >> of my least favorite writers. I like Hemmings Classic and Exotics better. >> > > I agree with Ron. The first issue of Classic Motorsports had a killer > article announcing the Modern Midget project and getting it started. As > usual, they soon lost sight of their goal as well as losing much of their > motivation (those guys can't get excited about beating a Miata). I bought > the 10-year subscription and I think it will take that long before they get > around to writing about the Midget engine work. > > Be warned, if you try to submit any constructive criticism to them, they > immediately start to whine and wonder how anyone can fail to love them when > they put SO much work into it. Oh well, one of these days I will get around > to cancelling my subscription. Now if only Hemmings Sports & Exotics would > come out twice a month... > David Lieb _______________________________________________ From davriker at nwi.net Sun Feb 15 22:36:02 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:36:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays References: <20090215171422.C5D2053BC78@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> Message-ID: <41F2081AAB504F08B5EAF1B8D97E9848@MAIN> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Miller" To: "'Bill L'" ; Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Relays > Comments on relays: > As commented in a previous post "for max light output place the relay as > close to the headlights as possible" I don't see the rational. If the 12v > wire to the relay and the relay wire to the headlights are the same gauge > and construction there would be no difference in the voltage drop no mater > where the relay is placed. That's the beauty. The wires don't have to be the same gauge. Using a relay allows you to run a larger gauge wire, that is one of the reasons there will be less of a voltage drop. You want the run with the larger wire to take you as close to the lamp as you can, the more of the circuit that you can run on the large gauge wire, the less of a voltage drop. Also, there is already a natural splice in the line, as the factory runs the wire out to the cowl, then uses a 4 way bullet connector as a poor man's junction box. Remove the bullet connectors, replace with spade connectors, and attatch to the relay, no cutting of the harness necessary. >Further, to run a heavy gauge 12v wire that is > always hot a long distance through the chassis adds risk. Think Bugeye, up > around the bonnet hinge and forward under the bonnet. I would rather have > the headlight leads only powered when the lights are on, a small > percentage > of the time. Besides if a problem occurred in the headlight lead it could > be > quickly turned off. Benifit #2, the factory harness has NO provision to fuse the headlight circuit. Adding an inline fuse where the feed wire attatches to the starter solinoid removes the risk of a short in the headlight circuit burning your car to the ground. I've experienced an electrical short, and trust me, you ain't gonna be fast enough at night to figure out that it is the headlight circuit and get it shut off before the harness has melted itself into a useless mass of goo. I've also added a relay to my heater fan circuit. I picked up 2 volts at the heater motor, and dramatically improved the efficiency of the defrosters. It went from 10.5 volts to 13.5 volts measured at the motor. That's a 20% increase in power to the blower motor. Dave R. From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Feb 15 23:12:43 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:12:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: <41F2081AAB504F08B5EAF1B8D97E9848@MAIN> References: <20090215171422.C5D2053BC78@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> <41F2081AAB504F08B5EAF1B8D97E9848@MAIN> Message-ID: <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> Hello, Just to keep everyone on track... Doubling the voltage makes 4 times the power. and increase from 10.5 volts to 13.5 volts is more like a 60% power gain. .. its a square law thing.. So if you loose half your voltage to voltage drop, you only get 25% of the rated power output at the load.. just for reference, 14 gauge wire has about 1 ohm of resistance for every 1000 feet. Of course voltage drop is more dependent on current flow since there's a square law thing in effect for that as well. again, roughly, every time you go up three wire sizes, you half the resistance of your feeders. Going from #14 to #10 isn't quite that half, but running #8 in Sprite would be REAL overkill,....... not that we don't have some fanatics here...and it seems to me that the lights are on #12 from the factory anyway.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" * "The sun is rising," Tom mourned. From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Sun Feb 15 23:22:11 2009 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:22:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] windscreen wiper questions Message-ID: <479490.69620.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> greetings people, my wipers are hopeless... the motor moves around way too much. are the grommets that are used on the 3 mounting points anything special? or just a standard rubber grommet I could get from Clark rubber or other shop? also , any tips on giving the whole mechanism a going over? I was considering including a 3mm plate on the foot side of the footwell to stiffen it up....as the footwell metal seems to flex a lot from the force of the wiper motor. had to keep sticking my head up over the screen last night, got caught 5 miles short of home when it rained. cheers for any tips Andy MK2a 1293 5speed Gold Coast Make Yahoo!7 your homepage and win a trip to the Quiksilver Pro. Find out more From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Feb 15 23:32:12 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:32:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] windscreen wiper questions In-Reply-To: <479490.69620.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <479490.69620.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <26967690.20090215223212@pacifier.com> Hello Andy, Never forget that Lucas INVENTED the intermittent wiper. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Reality is nothing but a collective hunch From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 15 23:37:43 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:37:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> Message-ID: > Doubling the voltage makes 4 times the power. And 4 times the power makes twice the sound. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Feb 15 23:42:26 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:42:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: References: <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902152242u37da13bia9591552ec86ab34@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Doubling the voltage makes 4 times the power. > And 4 times the power makes twice the sound. And 4 times the sound makes individual notes indistinguishable so nobody can hear the goofs... -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 07:15:10 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:15:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: References: <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902160615p728aca2fydf27a7ebe1f3dd4c@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 12:37 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> Doubling the voltage makes 4 times the power. > And 4 times the power makes twice the sound. Or 3db gain. From doug_altman at yahoo.com Mon Feb 16 07:58:04 2009 From: doug_altman at yahoo.com (Doug Altman) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:58:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] No LBC - Chinese Drywall Message-ID: <115399.29101.qm@web63503.mail.re1.yahoo.com> After hurricanes Wilma and Katrina in 2005, there was a shortage of drywall to make repairs to homes in Southern Florida so Chinese-made drywall was imported. Iron disulfide was used in its manufacture and it is now giving off carbonyl sulfide and carbon disulfide fumes, corroding wires, pipes, air conditioning components, and bathroom fixtures. Some homes are inhabitable. It was made by Knauf Plasterboard (Tianjin) of Knauf International GmbH and imported by Taishan Gypsum. The Chinese manufacturing fiasco continues. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 16 07:58:46 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:58:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste Message-ID: <953ACE4C59A242ADB2FF8595430A4527@Larry> http://tinyurl.com/anhhw9 >From a BE to a square body PU? I won't even ask why. From jfishbein at jjfinc.com Mon Feb 16 08:02:51 2009 From: jfishbein at jjfinc.com (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:02:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Non-Emissions Head Message-ID: Rather than go through my voluminous documentation and references, could anyone tell me the casting number for the 1275 non-emissions head. Also, if anyone has one available for sale or otherwise, please contact me off-list. Thanks, Jay Fishbein From frog.aye at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 08:23:04 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:23:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Non-Emissions Head In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4333f8140902160723n3807de91k4112db819320e041@mail.gmail.com> Jay, Good to see that you are still with us. 12G 940, according to Vizard. 12G 1316 is the air injected, which Vizard says is probabaly better for all out racing 'cuz it's thicker.... Hal On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > Rather than go through my voluminous documentation and references, could > anyone tell me the casting number for the 1275 non-emissions head. > > Also, if anyone has one available for sale or otherwise, please contact > me off-list. > > Thanks, > > Jay Fishbein > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Feb 16 08:28:03 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:28:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste References: <953ACE4C59A242ADB2FF8595430A4527@Larry> Message-ID: > http://tinyurl.com/anhhw9 > >>From a BE to a square body PU? > > I won't even ask why. Obviously a case of re-using a VIN to suit one's desires. The shell is certainly NOT a 1960. Wing windows, etc place it at a 1965 or later. It also has the mismatched front fenders... just take a close look at the heights of the front turnsignals. It looks like a "bitsa" car... bitsa this, bitsa that. My guess would be that most of the parts are from a 1970 or 71 Midget. Looks a little claustrophobic (says the guy who feels cramped in an El Camino). David Lieb From biffjones at verizon.net Mon Feb 16 08:32:10 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:32:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste References: <953ACE4C59A242ADB2FF8595430A4527@Larry> Message-ID: Despite the fact it says "1960" it clearly isn't a bugeye. Look at the doors, windshield, and square wheel arch's. Biff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Spridgets List" ; Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:58 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste > http://tinyurl.com/anhhw9 > >>From a BE to a square body PU? > > I won't even ask why. [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1955 - Release Date: 02/16/09 06:55:00 From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 16 08:31:54 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:31:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste References: <953ACE4C59A242ADB2FF8595430A4527@Larry> Message-ID: <4D574501252B47D6835669075903A677@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste > http://tinyurl.com/anhhw9 > >>From a BE to a square body PU? > > I won't even ask why. Obviously a case of re-using a VIN to suit one's desires. The shell is certainly NOT a 1960. Wing windows, etc place it at a 1965 or later. It also has the mismatched front fenders... just take a close look at the heights of the front turnsignals. It looks like a "bitsa" car... bitsa this, bitsa that. My guess would be that most of the parts are from a 1970 or 71 Midget. Looks a little claustrophobic (says the guy who feels cramped in an El Camino). David Lieb =========================== Kinda makes you wonder if the whole thing isn't made up... including the Clive Baker bit. From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Feb 16 08:55:51 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:55:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> References: <20090215171422.C5D2053BC78@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> <41F2081AAB504F08B5EAF1B8D97E9848@MAIN> <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <24DE7782EF1F42E1A9B226153557B91D@Home> >Going from #14 to #10 isn't quite that half, but running #8 in > Sprite would be REAL overkill,....... Are you wiring gurus running "custom" wire colors, or do you have big rolls of every British color combo? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From jfishbein at jjfinc.com Mon Feb 16 08:56:31 2009 From: jfishbein at jjfinc.com (Jay Fishbein) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:56:31 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Non-Emissions Head Message-ID: Thanks Hal. From: Hal Faulkner [mailto:frog.aye at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:31 AM To: Jay Fishbein Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 Non-Emissions Head Jay, Good to see that you are still with us. 12G 940, according to Vizard From kk7ss at verizon.net Mon Feb 16 09:16:01 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:16:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> References: <20090215171422.C5D2053BC78@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>, <41F2081AAB504F08B5EAF1B8D97E9848@MAIN>, <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <499920C1.19808.1C69D9@kk7ss.verizon.net> Bill, Just to confuse the issue... (Devil's Advocate sort of thing!) If you are just looking at Voltage and Current.. Ohms law states Power = Volts x Amps... Doubling the voltage doubles the power... If you are looking at Voltage and the Resistance of the wiring Ohms'Law states Power = Volts x Volts x Ohms (Resistance). Doubling the voltage quadruples the power.. A 60W 12V auto headlight is about 3 Ohms when hot.. So you are *both* right, you just didn't statye you frame of reference!! On 15 Feb 2009 at 22:12, Bill L wrote: >> Doubling the voltage makes 4 times the power. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Feb 16 09:20:06 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:20:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: <24DE7782EF1F42E1A9B226153557B91D@Home> References: <20090215171422.C5D2053BC78@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> <41F2081AAB504F08B5EAF1B8D97E9848@MAIN> <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> <24DE7782EF1F42E1A9B226153557B91D@Home> Message-ID: <1709658024.20090216082006@pacifier.com> Hello Michael, I'm an electrician. I HATE car wiring. I don't have any British colored wire. I keep a couple of hunks of #10 wire in the garage so I can be a future D. P. O. if I have to patch something in. (I can follow a car wiring diagram and thankfully Spridgets are simple) -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Dermatologists make rash judgments. From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Feb 16 09:35:51 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:35:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: <499920C1.19808.1C69D9@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <20090215171422.C5D2053BC78@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net>, <41F2081AAB504F08B5EAF1B8D97E9848@MAIN>, <781843387.20090215221243@pacifier.com> <499920C1.19808.1C69D9@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <1662853319.20090216083551@pacifier.com> Hello Dave, Sorry,... ..your assumption is incorrect in the circuit... While it IS true that the power formula is Volts times Amps, and doubling the voltage would APPEAR to double the power, in these circuits what happens is doubling the voltage results in an increase in current flow thu the FIXED resistance....Thats why the Power formula also states as you have correctly said Volts timees Volts divided by RESISTANCE. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" I'm losing my thought of train.... From haynes386 at netzero.net Mon Feb 16 10:04:14 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:04:14 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Lower Control Arms Message-ID: <20090216.100414.9184.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Nope, not the welds (hopefully)- The weak link is the 1/2"-20 Threads! think about it- ~375lbs (750 lbs/2 joints) in shear on an extended shaft with a root diameter of 7/16" (being generous), so at rest there's a shear force of 857 lbs (no problem). Then hit a bump/chuck hole, etc. realizing that the shear strength is ~40% of tensile (again conservative), assuming an impulse of at least 1/4 the weight of the car and driver(~400lbs)/5 milliseconds gives an instantaneous loading of 8375lbs. Average yield strength of Grade 2 bolts (and low end heim joints) is 36ksi. multiply by .4375 for cross sectional area, again by .4 for shear loading, and it yields at 6773 lbs. That calc is rough, and not even taking into consideration the horizontal loading (which is much greater due to the mass of the vehicle). I'd not drive on such a thing, remember what happened to Flounder with Red Rat Bastard at speed when he broke a stub axle? Thankfully, he was wearing a helmet-I don't on the street, do you? Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Save on Financial Career Training. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/PnY6rc20AmFiGkZAwPVmL5dBMHbm95 UpSsaRAkdtJyyDCdeBzacSw/ From tinydog at snet.net Mon Feb 16 10:16:51 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:16:51 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Lower Control Arms In-Reply-To: <20090216.100414.9184.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <021620091716.5783.49999F82000DDDC00000169722243322829B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog responded: I don't wear a helmet either, but somewhat off-topic, this winter while riding with my master, we observed quite a few vehicles that suffered breakdowns due to a collapsed front suspension. Saw one at speed. (Pretty interesting.) And these were not necessarily old vehicles. Ford, Chevy, Japanese... -------------- Original message from "Mark Haynes" : -------------- remember what happened to Flounder with Red Rat > Bastard at speed when he broke a stub axle? Thankfully, he was wearing a > helmet-I don't on the street, do you? From wsthompson at thicko.com Mon Feb 16 10:22:16 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:22:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Lower Control Arms In-Reply-To: <20090216.100414.9184.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> References: <20090216.100414.9184.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <000301c9905b$1f7d2a50$5e777ef0$@com> Wasn't a stub axle.. was the 2 bolts that hold the steering arm to the right side suspension. Opinions vary on whether as Grade 8, that was a contributing factor... but the week before it had been raced at a very rough Blackhawk Farms (before the repave). http://www.thicko.com/ReadRatDeadRat.htm -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:04 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ebay Lower Control Arms Nope, not the welds (hopefully)- The weak link is the 1/2"-20 Threads! think about it- ~375lbs (750 lbs/2 joints) in shear on an extended shaft with a root diameter of 7/16" (being generous), so at rest there's a shear force of 857 lbs (no problem). Then hit a bump/chuck hole, etc. realizing that the shear strength is ~40% of tensile (again conservative), assuming an impulse of at least 1/4 the weight of the car and driver(~400lbs)/5 milliseconds gives an instantaneous loading of 8375lbs. Average yield strength of Grade 2 bolts (and low end heim joints) is 36ksi. multiply by .4375 for cross sectional area, again by .4 for shear loading, and it yields at 6773 lbs. That calc is rough, and not even taking into consideration the horizontal loading (which is much greater due to the mass of the vehicle). I'd not drive on such a thing, remember what happened to Flounder with Red Rat Bastard at speed when he broke a stub axle? Thankfully, he was wearing a helmet-I don't on the street, do you? Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Feb 16 10:37:24 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:37:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902152242u37da13bia9591552ec86ab34@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > And 4 times the sound makes individual notes indistinguishable so nobody can > hear the goofs... Who are you calling a goof? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Feb 16 11:04:02 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:04:02 EST Subject: [Spridgets] windscreen wiper questions Message-ID: Use the later round body motor. In a message dated 16/02/2009 06:22:27 GMT Standard Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: cheers for any tips From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Feb 16 11:07:30 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:07:30 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Lower Control Arms Message-ID: I use AN bolts lockwired. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 16/02/2009 17:26:46 GMT Standard Time, wsthompson at thicko.com writes: Wasn't a stub axle.. was the 2 bolts that hold the steering arm to the right side suspension. Opinions vary on whether as Grade 8, that was a contributing factor... but the week before it had been raced at a very rough Blackhawk Farms (before the repave). http://www.thicko.com/ReadRatDeadRat.htm From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Mon Feb 16 11:13:17 2009 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:13:17 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] windscreen wiper questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <26605275F924408AAE78343B4EAE64C7@GuyLaptop> The other thing to watch for is that the nut that holds the drive rack tube on to the end of the motor is done up properly. They do have a habit of working loose here and even a small amount of slack will loose a lot of the effective wiper control, making the action very sloppy. Guy In a message dated 16/02/2009 06:22:27 GMT Standard Time, a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au writes: cheers for any tips You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rbastedo at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 11:18:53 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:18:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays Message-ID: I used #10 bright yellow for my headlights, and #10 black for a new ground lug on each side. I wanted it to be easily identified (by me) in case of emergency. Sorta did what Bill L said except instead of spade connectors at the front I used bullet connectors. Everything is easily reversible by simply unplugging the new stuff and plugging the old stuff back together. Had not thought of doing it to the heater blower - but I could use more power there for sure! And I still have 3 or 4 relays left, hmmm.... what else would be nice to put on a relay? My horns don't work anyway, but maybe I should get some and put them on a relay? Rick (how many more relays can I install?) Bastedo ---------------------------------------------------------------- From: Michael Rowe Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Relays >Going from #14 to #10 isn't quite that half, but running #8 in > Sprite would be REAL overkill,....... Are you wiring gurus running "custom" wire colors, or do you have big rolls of every British color combo? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 13:22:41 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:22:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Relays In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0902152242u37da13bia9591552ec86ab34@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902161222o2acaa6d5i2ce5433037021203@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > And 4 times the sound makes individual notes indistinguishable so nobody > can > > hear the goofs... > Who are you calling a goof? Have you ever heard me play? ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 15:08:42 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:08:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Boat Trailer Message-ID: <37dc82d40902161408x31827b82j85658e56b8899fa5@mail.gmail.com> Dave, Thanks for the pics. I think I am going to go the same route. The 349 dollar trailer is just too small to feel safe - and as mentioned, I would be using it right at it's maximum capacity. The wheels on the thing look too small as well. Great pics, again, thanks for sending! Kirk 59 BE From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 15:45:54 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:45:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper Motor Message-ID: <37dc82d40902161445s72b3f517t44bdb634e243ccd1@mail.gmail.com> Wiper motor. Someone made a comment on their wiper motor not working correctly. My 1.2 cents. . . I threw mine out, actually sold it on eBay. I don't drive in the rain very often and when I do I use Rain X which works very well. Kirk 59 BE PS After ridding myself of that heavy wiper motor my 0-6 times improved from 22.5 seconds now down to 22 seconds thanks to the loss of weight! LOL From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 16 15:53:35 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:53:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT Joke - Contractors Message-ID: <8E8C4D4B8A794DDB816DF49D9C179EE1@Larry> Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House in D.C. One from Illinois, one from Tennessee, and a third from Kentucky. They all go with a White House official to examine the fence. The Tennessee contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil. 'Well', he says,'I figure the job will run about $900; $400 for materials, $400 for my crew, and $100 profit for me.' The Kentucky contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, 'I can do this job for $700; $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me.' The Illinois contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to the White House official and whispers, '$2,700.' The official, incredulous, whispers back, 'You didn't even measure like the other guys! How did you come up with such a high figure?' The Illinois contractor whispers back, '$1000 for me, $1000 for you, and we hire that guy from Kentucky to fix the fence.' 'Done!' replies the government official. And that my friends, is how it all works!! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 16 15:55:02 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:55:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper Motor References: <37dc82d40902161445s72b3f517t44bdb634e243ccd1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1E65B4234E914A89928A29F705D0804A@Larry> 0-6 in 22 seconds? You'd best start throwing out some more stuff. ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:45 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper Motor Wiper motor. Someone made a comment on their wiper motor not working correctly. My 1.2 cents. . . I threw mine out, actually sold it on eBay. I don't drive in the rain very often and when I do I use Rain X which works very well. Kirk 59 BE PS After ridding myself of that heavy wiper motor my 0-6 times improved from 22.5 seconds now down to 22 seconds thanks to the loss of weight! LOL You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Feb 16 16:34:01 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:34:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] windscreen wiper questions In-Reply-To: <479490.69620.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <479490.69620.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4999F7E9.6040607@comcast.net> Andy Webster wrote: > greetings people, > > my wipers are hopeless... A kink in the wiper rack tube can cause this, the rack jams inside the tube and the motor takes the hit. If you remove the top plate of the motor, pull off the peg from the gear/rack and work the rack by hand, you will feel it bind, at least you will know if it's the rack or the motor. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 17:38:33 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:38:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FWIW, North Texas List members Message-ID: On March 20th and 21st, Pinks All Out will be filming in Ennis at the drag strip there. Dave is taking the face lifted Drag Sprite to see how it stands against the competition. He had gotten it tuned in to just under 120 mph in around 15.5 sec in the 1/8th mile, with a 150 shot of nitrous. Due to legal limitations he will be removing the bottle and running it with just a carb, but he will be running. After flipping the car at just a touch over 100, and going through the traps spinning upside down on the roll bar at around 96 mph, it is now sporting fresh paint. The dents from the wreck are removed, a nice hood scoop installed, and a shiny gun metal gray paint applied. I thought I had a pair of used Sprite wings around, but I can't locate them. If anyone has an old bonnet emblem they would be willing to part with, please contact me. He has never had any sort of markings on the car since he started racing it. It has been called everything from a Triumph, to an MG, to finally that fast as hell little car. It would be nice, IF he gets any camera time, for folks to see just what it is, without credit being given to marques that are not worthy of the attention. If you live around the area, come on out to see the lil' beggar run. I'll try and catch Dave at his shop, and get some new photos of the car, if I can find someone willing to host them. I know that Ed doesn't want folks trying to run the quicktime movie of the car idling, on his page, but it is pretty cool to hear it running. Download it, and pump up the volume through your computer sub woofer system. Hope to see some of you there. Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Mon Feb 16 17:53:03 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:53:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Wiper Motor In-Reply-To: <1E65B4234E914A89928A29F705D0804A@Larry> Message-ID: <<0-6 in 22 seconds? You'd best start throwing out some more stuff.>> Especially the DRIVER, Kirk !! Larry A. Daniels Cheeseheads Chair From derf247 at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 18:06:35 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:06:35 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FWIW, North Texas List members In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5f00d9910902161706w627b5cddh85ed84d96f4bdafc@mail.gmail.com> 15.5 sec in the 1/8th mile? I think I can take him in the Miata. > He had gotten it tuned in to just under 120 mph in around 15.5 sec in the > 1/8th mile, with a 150 shot of nitrous. Due to legal limitations he will be > removing the bottle and running it with just a carb, but he will be running. From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 18:14:06 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:14:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FWIW, North Texas List members In-Reply-To: <5f00d9910902161706w627b5cddh85ed84d96f4bdafc@mail.gmail.com> References: <5f00d9910902161706w627b5cddh85ed84d96f4bdafc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Oops, 5.5 sec. Sorry On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM, derf wrote: > 15.5 sec in the 1/8th mile? I think I can take him in the Miata. > > > He had gotten it tuned in to just under 120 mph in around 15.5 sec in the > > 1/8th mile, with a 150 shot of nitrous. Due to legal limitations he will > be > > removing the bottle and running it with just a carb, but he will be > running. > > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From shop at justbrits.com Mon Feb 16 18:56:46 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:56:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT Joke - Contractors In-Reply-To: <8E8C4D4B8A794DDB816DF49D9C179EE1@Larry> Message-ID: <> BUT Larry, up until lately the Gov. Off. had to give Blogo $900.00 out of his grand. NOW that person has to give it to Burris [if you have been paying any attention to the news] !!! So NOW the money DOES 'stay on The Hill'!! From dwgwater at hotmail.com Mon Feb 16 19:31:24 2009 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:31:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] windscreen wiper questions In-Reply-To: <4999F7E9.6040607@comcast.net> References: <479490.69620.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4999F7E9.6040607@comcast.net> Message-ID: So, can I (do I need to) lubricate whatever is in the tube? If so, how???? I love the reaction I get from the little kids in the neighborhood when I hit the wiper switch and those three little wipers make their way ever so slowly across the windshield and back Dave > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:34:01 -0500 > From: spritenut at comcast.net > To: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net; spridgets-aus at yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] windscreen wiper questions > > Andy Webster wrote: > > greetings people, > > > > my wipers are hopeless... > A kink in the wiper rack tube can cause this, the rack jams inside the > tube and the motor takes the hit. > If you remove the top plate of the motor, pull off the peg from the > gear/rack and work the rack by hand, you will feel it bind, at least you > will know if it's the rack or the motor. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dwgwater at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ From spritenut at comcast.net Mon Feb 16 19:47:35 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:47:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] windscreen wiper questions In-Reply-To: References: <479490.69620.qm@web50612.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <4999F7E9.6040607@comcast.net> Message-ID: <499A2547.2010808@comcast.net> David Groundwater wrote: > So, can I (do I need to) lubricate whatever is in the tube? If so, how???? > > > White lithium grease, or your favorite light duty grease. I have used vasoline but it melts out in the summer. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From frog.aye at gmail.com Mon Feb 16 20:04:01 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:04:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay Lower Control Arms In-Reply-To: <20090216.100414.9184.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> References: <20090216.100414.9184.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140902161904n3521a854pfd2f4c8e1b609c3a@mail.gmail.com> Mark, Shouldn't that be .4375 squared? (=.19140625) Hal > low end heim joints) is 36ksi. multiply by .4375 for cross sectional area, > again by .4 for shear loading, and it yields at 6773 lbs. That calc is > rough, > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Save on Financial Career Training. Click here. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/PnY6rc20AmFiGkZAwPVmL5dBMHbm95 > UpSsaRAkdtJyyDCdeBzacSw/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 16 20:07:47 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:07:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -- way cool drummers Message-ID: <46C7908D26FF42BBA80BB97BD57BFC15@Larry> FW: Swiss Drummers (Do not miss this one) http://www.biertijd.com/oudbruin/content.php?article.668 Peter, what say you add some brass and snake them thru the bars down by Camp Randall and you have the UW marching band on game day? From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 02:36:55 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:36:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Site with 58 Differences.....where is it? Message-ID: <205cef430902170136m1fd9d5aft3e82d00d68170e4f@mail.gmail.com> List, Where is that list with the images of the differences between the 58 to 59 Bugeyes? I backed up my hard drive and don't have it on my computer. Thanks Linda From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 02:38:23 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:38:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. Message-ID: <205cef430902170138p46b5b89cx1efc11fc1b4f736e@mail.gmail.com> List, Does anyone on the list have a 58 Bugeye? Linda From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 03:00:38 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:00:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste In-Reply-To: <4D574501252B47D6835669075903A677@Larry> References: <953ACE4C59A242ADB2FF8595430A4527@Larry> <4D574501252B47D6835669075903A677@Larry> Message-ID: <205cef430902170200k21ff2e05ge9646307e8edc9bb@mail.gmail.com> Very interesting that it may all be a scam. I emailed him for photos of the bed and tailgate, I'll post when they arrive. So what do you all know about Clive Baker I'd like to learn. Hey lets make one : ) Lin On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste > > > > http://tinyurl.com/anhhw9 > > > >>From a BE to a square body PU? > > > > I won't even ask why. > > Obviously a case of re-using a VIN to suit one's desires. The shell is > certainly NOT a 1960. Wing windows, etc place it at a 1965 or later. It > also > has the mismatched front fenders... just take a close look at the heights > of > the front turnsignals. It looks like a "bitsa" car... bitsa this, bitsa > that. My guess would be that most of the parts are from a 1970 or 71 > Midget. > Looks a little claustrophobic (says the guy who feels cramped in an El > Camino). > David Lieb > > =========================== > > Kinda makes you wonder if the whole thing isn't made up... including the > Clive Baker bit. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Tue Feb 17 03:09:36 2009 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:09:36 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste In-Reply-To: <205cef430902170200k21ff2e05ge9646307e8edc9bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <801C7F9573A54B93AE73BD8D53E97086@GuyLaptop> Linda, Its not a scam. Genuine converted car. I have seen it at shows and it is quite well known in the UK. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: 17 February 2009 10:01 To: Larry Daniels Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste Very interesting that it may all be a scam. I emailed him for photos of the bed and tailgate, I'll post when they arrive. So what do you all know about Clive Baker I'd like to learn. Hey lets make one : ) Lin On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste > > > > http://tinyurl.com/anhhw9 > > > >>From a BE to a square body PU? > > > > I won't even ask why. > > Obviously a case of re-using a VIN to suit one's desires. The shell is > certainly NOT a 1960. Wing windows, etc place it at a 1965 or later. It > also > has the mismatched front fenders... just take a close look at the heights > of > the front turnsignals. It looks like a "bitsa" car... bitsa this, bitsa > that. My guess would be that most of the parts are from a 1970 or 71 > Midget. > Looks a little claustrophobic (says the guy who feels cramped in an El > Camino). > David Lieb > > =========================== > > Kinda makes you wonder if the whole thing isn't made up... including the > Clive Baker bit. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 17 04:35:22 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:35:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste In-Reply-To: <205cef430902170200k21ff2e05ge9646307e8edc9bb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <348279.81479.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I don't think it's a scam - just a pieced together car. I know of more than one example of specific cars that began life as something else or multiple somethings else. I do doubt the 1960 model year, though it is certainly possible (I'm sure we've all heard of cases where one valid registration is used to license a different car. The doors are later, but they cold have been used to better enclose the cabin. Even the square rear arches could be welded on from a different car. Maybe if we knew whether the rear springs were semi or quarter eliptics... - David Booker '71 Midget Long Island --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste To: "Larry Daniels" Cc: "Spridgets List" Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:00 AM Very interesting that it may all be a scam. I emailed him for photos of the bed and tailgate, I'll post when they arrive. So what do you all know about Clive Baker I'd like to learn. Hey lets make one : ) Lin On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lieb" > To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste > > > > http://tinyurl.com/anhhw9 > > > >>From a BE to a square body PU? > > > > I won't even ask why. > > Obviously a case of re-using a VIN to suit one's desires. The shell is > certainly NOT a 1960. Wing windows, etc place it at a 1965 or later. It > also > has the mismatched front fenders... just take a close look at the heights > of > the front turnsignals. It looks like a "bitsa" car... bitsa this, bitsa > that. My guess would be that most of the parts are from a 1970 or 71 > Midget. > Looks a little claustrophobic (says the guy who feels cramped in an El > Camino). > David Lieb > > =========================== > > Kinda makes you wonder if the whole thing isn't made up... including the > Clive Baker bit. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Tue Feb 17 04:37:52 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:37:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. In-Reply-To: <205cef430902170138p46b5b89cx1efc11fc1b4f736e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <661652.83793.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mine are both still the original '58 models but I don't think they bug out too badly all things considered... --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: From: Linda Grunthaner Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. To: "Spridget List" Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 3:38 AM List, Does anyone on the list have a 58 Bugeye? Linda You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 08:23:40 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:23:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. In-Reply-To: <20090217.080543.9457.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20090217.080543.9457.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902170723s40a00bd2nf84ab4e44af65916@mail.gmail.com> Mark, The Bugeye Frank & I picked up this weekend is 7267 with a double triangular frame section under the hood. The first 59 was 8927 with double triangular frame section. The po said the car was a 60 but the DMV screwed up and made it a 61, do you or anyone on the list think this is truly a 58 but because it is so late in the numbers it would have a double triangular frame section? Ether way the title needs to be changed and I am waiting to hear from the po. I am unable to get the site http://www.spriteparts.com.au/body-shell-variations.htm to open here at work where I am hooked to a proxy can anyone from home or on connections without a proxy open it up? Thanks Lin On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > Yes Linda, I have one- Post nine stud though. The differences between the > early '58s and late '58s are on Collin's website- www.spriteparts.com > After SN 5877 (I think that's the SN) they all have the structural updates > that the '59s on have (at least mine does). FWIW > > > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Can't pay your bills on time?? Click for quick cash with a payday loan. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/PnY6rc1k6AdexvIN54nXSPC5NNOE86sH2Bt964TzWjEBoLqK1LsDZ/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 09:15:24 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:15:24 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. In-Reply-To: <20090217.080543.9457.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> References: <20090217.080543.9457.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902170815o6cd80d7bkc88d625be89785c8@mail.gmail.com> Mark, Are you saying it may be possible that the last run of 58's may have the double triangular frame section? Does anyone know what that part is called so I can refer to it properly? The search continues...... Lin On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > Yes Linda, I have one- Post nine stud though. The differences between the > early '58s and late '58s are on Collin's website- www.spriteparts.com > After SN 5877 (I think that's the SN) they all have the structural updates > that the '59s on have (at least mine does). FWIW > > > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 > > ____________________________________________________________ > Can't pay your bills on time?? Click for quick cash with a payday loan. > > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/PnY6rc1k6AdexvIN54nXSPC5NNOE86sH2Bt964TzWjEBoLqK1LsDZ/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 09:20:59 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:20:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. In-Reply-To: <205cef430902170815o6cd80d7bkc88d625be89785c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090217.080543.9457.1@webmail10.dca.untd.com> <205cef430902170815o6cd80d7bkc88d625be89785c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902170820j4603ccb6ob354174c8252cb77@mail.gmail.com> List I'm looking at the Team Sprite 58 Bugeye and it appears that she is a double triangle look here: http://www.teamsprite.com/car.html Does anyone know their vin number or should I email them? Lin On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Mark, > Are you saying it may be possible that the last run of 58's may have the > double triangular frame section? Does anyone know what that part is called > so I can refer to it properly? > The search continues...... > Lin > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Mark Haynes wrote: > >> Yes Linda, I have one- Post nine stud though. The differences between the >> early '58s and late '58s are on Collin's website- www.spriteparts.com >> After SN 5877 (I think that's the SN) they all have the structural updates >> that the '59s on have (at least mine does). FWIW >> >> >> Mark Haynes >> HAN6L12779 >> HAN5L8016 >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Can't pay your bills on time?? Click for quick cash with a payday loan. >> >> http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/PnY6rc1k6AdexvIN54nXSPC5NNOE86sH2Bt964TzWjEBoLqK1LsDZ/ From jfishbein at jjfinc.com Tue Feb 17 09:38:12 2009 From: jfishbein at jjfinc.com (Jay Fishbein) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:38:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. Message-ID: At the risk of sounding Pedantic, the answer to your question is: "yes". Jay Fishbein -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Mark, Are you saying it may be possible that the last run of 58's may have the double triangular frame section? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 11:33:43 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:33:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New Law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Holy CRAP!!! In reading this, we won't be able to take our children ANYWHERE, as ALL our vehicles have lead in the batteries. I say we just outlaw children, be easier that way. OR, go Frank's route, and outlaw everything from China..... Check out the new "Lead law" that just passed and went into effect onthe 10th. No 50cc motorcycles or quads......can be sold in the US. I dont know about parts yet but nothing 50cc new can be sold. http://www.gopednation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280476 http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/5/2382/Motorcycle-Article/Lead-Ban- Stops-Youth-ATV-and-Motorcycle-Sales.aspx http://chimotonews.blogspot.com/ http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/index.php? showtopic=23628&mode=threaded And there are so many more websites. Whats next? Seeya! Todd ------------------------------------ -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kgb at frontiernet.net Tue Feb 17 12:00:59 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:00:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Law In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <499B096B.20500@frontiernet.net> That is precisely why we need to take action and write Senators and Representatives the moment new legislation is proposed. Waiting until after it goes to committee is too late for anything to be done. Look at all the new legislation in IL alone. If it passes, Just Ed won't be able to get any more Spaniels, as it will require a terribly expensive license with penalties more appropriate for multiple felonies in order to sell or give away a dog or puppy. Kate Brad Fornal wrote: > Holy CRAP!!! In reading this, we won't be able to take our children > ANYWHERE, as ALL our vehicles have lead in the batteries. I say we just > outlaw children, be easier that way. OR, go Frank's route, and outlaw > everything from China..... > > > Check out the new "Lead law" that just passed and went into effect onthe > 10th. > > No 50cc motorcycles or quads......can be sold in the US. > > I dont know about parts yet but nothing 50cc new can be sold. > > http://www.gopednation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280476 > > http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/5/2382/Motorcycle-Article/Lead-Ban- > Stops-Youth-ATV-and-Motorcycle-Sales.aspx > > http://chimotonews.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.trialscentral.com/forums/index.php? > showtopic=23628&mode=threaded > > > > And there are so many more websites. > Whats next? > > > Seeya! > Todd > > > > > ------------------------------------ From tinydog at snet.net Tue Feb 17 12:11:19 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:11:19 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] New Law In-Reply-To: <499B096B.20500@frontiernet.net> References: <499B096B.20500@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <021720091911.28219.499B0BD7000C36B800006E3B22230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog concluded: Based on the grammar and spelling in the entry by "POLINUSA", it appears his elected officials have previously outlawed education in his area. -------------- Original message from Kathryn Bales : -------------- > That is precisely why we need to take action and write Senators and > Representatives the moment new legislation is proposed. Waiting until > after it goes to committee is too late for anything to be done. Look at > all the new legislation in IL alone. If it passes, Just Ed won't be able > to get any more Spaniels, as it will require a terribly expensive > license with penalties more appropriate for multiple felonies in order > to sell or give away a dog or puppy. > > Kate > > > Brad Fornal wrote: > > Holy CRAP!!! In reading this, we won't be able to take our children > > ANYWHERE, as ALL our vehicles have lead in the batteries. I say we just > > outlaw children, be easier that way. OR, go Frank's route, and outlaw > > everything from China..... From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 17 12:33:43 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:33:43 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New Law In-Reply-To: <021720091911.28219.499B0BD7000C36B800006E3B22230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <> Tinydog, you are only partly correct!!! "Education" has been "outlawed" for the entire Country for YEARS. And that is as far as I will take the subject here as this is NOT the place for it!! From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 13:04:47 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:04:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New Law In-Reply-To: References: <021720091911.28219.499B0BD7000C36B800006E3B22230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: My apologies for bringing it here, but since I am not on either of YOUR lists (you know why) I still felt that the group should know. They should discuss it elsewhere, you are correct, but now at least they know. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Ed's Shop wrote: > < > Based on the grammar and spelling in the entry by "POLINUSA", > it appears his elected officials have previously outlawed education > in his area.>> > > Tinydog, you are only partly correct!!! > > "Education" has been "outlawed" for the entire Country for YEARS. > > And that is as far as I will take the subject here as this is NOT > the place for it!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dwramsey at att.net Tue Feb 17 13:21:35 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:21:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Law In-Reply-To: <021720091911.28219.499B0BD7000C36B800006E3B22230650629B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <20090217202158.60BD618765E@autox.team.net> Based on the fact they want me to send my name and address to another web site I would think it is a phishing scam. Crash tinydog concluded: Based on the grammar and spelling in the entry by "POLINUSA", it appears his elected officials have previously outlawed education in his area. From dwramsey at att.net Tue Feb 17 13:22:05 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:22:05 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: New Law Message-ID: <20090217202227.A6C1818765E@autox.team.net> Based on the fact they want me to send my name and address to another web site I would think it is a phishing scam. Crash tinydog concluded: Based on the grammar and spelling in the entry by "POLINUSA", it appears his elected officials have previously outlawed education in his area. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Feb 17 14:45:49 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:45:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Law In-Reply-To: <499B096B.20500@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: If the law was past rather than passed, does that make it non-current? > This law was past to protect kids from lead From derf247 at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 17:48:47 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:48:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] New Law In-Reply-To: References: <499B096B.20500@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902171648h5ee23a59y97b84d52ee7d4cfe@mail.gmail.com> Forgive them. They were exposed to lead paint as children and now they can't be expected to use the language correctly. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > If the law was past rather than passed, does that make it non-current? > >> This law was past to protect kids from lead From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Tue Feb 17 17:51:52 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:51:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Law In-Reply-To: <499B096B.20500@frontiernet.net> References: <499B096B.20500@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: All the Chinese will do is bore out the cylinders slightly and glue 51cc stickers on the gas tank. Problem solved. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > That is precisely why we need to take action and write Senators and > Representatives the moment new legislation is proposed. Waiting until after > it goes to committee is too late for anything to be done. Look at all the > new legislation in IL alone. If it passes, Just Ed won't be able to get any > more Spaniels, as it will require a terribly expensive license with > penalties more appropriate for multiple felonies in order to sell or give > away a dog or puppy. > > Kate > > > Brad Fornal wrote: > >> Holy CRAP!!! In reading this, we won't be able to take our children >> ANYWHERE, as ALL our vehicles have lead in the batteries. I say we just >> outlaw children, be easier that way. OR, go Frank's route, and outlaw >> everything from China..... From d.swanson at earthlink.net Tue Feb 17 19:49:28 2009 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:49:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder Message-ID: What is the check valve in our LBC brake master cylinder for? When looking in racing type catalogs they sell master cylinders - not distinguishing between brake or clutch (such as http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=3500 ). Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Tue Feb 17 22:35:41 2009 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:35:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder Message-ID: <853469.77903.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Dean, It's for annoying you if you: put in in backwards, put it in the clutch side bore, but other than that its a bit of a mystery.... http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/spridgets/2006-04/msg00125.html Andy --- On Wed, 18/2/09, Dean Swanson wrote: From: Dean Swanson Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder To: spridgets at autox.team.net Received: Wednesday, 18 February, 2009, 1:49 PM What is the check valve in our LBC brake master cylinder for? When looking in racing type catalogs they sell master cylinders - not distinguishing between brake or clutch (such as http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=3500 ). Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Make Yahoo!7 your homepage and win a trip to the Quiksilver Pro. Find out more From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 03:39:07 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:39:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430902180239o1a6825e1s8b4abc944087a1a1@mail.gmail.com> Jay, Is that you? It's so nice to see your messages I have not heard from you on the list is a long time. I hope all is well I thought you moved or had ugly email troubles, virus etc........glad your still around : ) Pedantic, my spousal equivalent (that's what they put on a civil union certificate) uses that word often and every time she does I have to ask her what it means and it's in one ear and out the other. Being I'm on line I thought it would be easy but had to search 2x. "overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, esp. in teaching" I like this definition because it's always fun to hear details about Spridgets. So you are saying the last run of Bugeyes could have the newer frame changes like the 59, 60 & 61? Thanks Linda On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > At the risk of sounding Pedantic, the answer to your question is: "yes". > > > Jay Fishbein > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner > > > Mark, > Are you saying it may be possible that the last run of 58's may have the > double triangular frame section? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 04:29:23 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:29:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. In-Reply-To: <20090217.131647.19035.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> References: <20090217.131647.19035.0@webmail01.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902180329k31dfab41qfe0ea14ff492606b@mail.gmail.com> Mark, So your 58 vin AN5/8016 is not 9 stud windshield and the features are not like Granny's 58 AN5/4165 yes lets try and fill in the blanks because this Bugeye Frank & I picked up is AN5/7267 and has none (I have to look more and take pictures to confirm) ether. Also I emailed the teacher of the Team Sprite all girls Auto class to get that 58's vin number because if you look at their car it too does not have the double triangle frame and who knows if they got the car in pieces from others or complete so the removable parts can't be confirmed. http://www.teamsprite.com/car.html I wonder when Healey added all the changes to the body it would be cool to get as many vin numbers and note the changes ....... any more 58's out there? I called the DMV in Maryland & New Jersey and they both said the PO should come to the MD DMV with book documentation to make the changes to the title. I also emailed the PO and he said he would get the changes made (hope so). Linda On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: > Linda- I (personal opinion, though I may be wrong here) believe that the > structural updates accompanied the loss of the nine stud windshield frame. > The sole reason for this hypothesis being that my '58 (5L8016) doesn't have > the 9 stud, nor does it have any of the early structural deficiencies. It > also matches the '61 that Collin has documented on his site. Anyone else > with a SN between 5877 and EOY '58? that can verify this for Linda? > Mark Haynes > HAN6L12779 > HAN5L8016 > > ____________________________________________________________ > We bet you'll have fun at these great online poker sites! Click now! > > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/PnY6rc2tGEwdLkzZ3mNN5yh94jn333Y6J4BXl26bkdlZtqBp3NLL9/ From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 08:00:08 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:00:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste In-Reply-To: <801C7F9573A54B93AE73BD8D53E97086@GuyLaptop> References: <205cef430902170200k21ff2e05ge9646307e8edc9bb@mail.gmail.com> <801C7F9573A54B93AE73BD8D53E97086@GuyLaptop> Message-ID: <205cef430902180700s2153208aw88d37975241e0a76@mail.gmail.com> Cool I like trucks and Spridigets I could get into something like this but I would want it a convertible. Lin On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Guy Weller wrote: > Linda, > > Its not a scam. Genuine converted car. I have seen it at shows and it is > quite well known in the UK. > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner > Sent: 17 February 2009 10:01 > To: Larry Daniels > Cc: Spridgets List > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste > > > Very interesting that it may all be a scam. I emailed him for photos of the > bed and tailgate, I'll post when they arrive. So what do you all know about > Clive Baker I'd like to learn. Hey lets make one : ) > Lin > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Larry Daniels > wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "David Lieb" > > To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" > > > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/anhhw9 > > > > > >>From a BE to a square body PU? > > > > > > I won't even ask why. > > > > Obviously a case of re-using a VIN to suit one's desires. The shell is > > certainly NOT a 1960. Wing windows, etc place it at a 1965 or later. It > > also > > has the mismatched front fenders... just take a close look at the heights > > of > > the front turnsignals. It looks like a "bitsa" car... bitsa this, bitsa > > that. My guess would be that most of the parts are from a 1970 or 71 > > Midget. > > Looks a little claustrophobic (says the guy who feels cramped in an El > > Camino). > > David Lieb > > > > =========================== > > > > Kinda makes you wonder if the whole thing isn't made up... including the > > Clive Baker bit. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 08:05:25 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:05:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] numbers on the doors of our Spridgets question..... Message-ID: <205cef430902180705n15deb26fqa6f05d2fb8fdc7@mail.gmail.com> List, What do the numbers on the inside of the door jam represent? Lin From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Wed Feb 18 08:08:54 2009 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:08:54 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Spridgets] MGA steering wheel wanted Message-ID: <24166895.1234969734527.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Hi Lists, This came to me this morning - anyone out there know where one is???? Best, Rick Feibusch Venice, CA (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((( From: Date: Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 7:36 PM Subject: MGA PARTS To: BritishCarNetwork at gmail.com HI I'M WORKING ON A 61 MGA: IS THERE ANYWAY SOMEONE CAN PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH A STEERING WHEEL? THE ONE IN THE CAR IS TOTALED. PLEASE RESPOND TO SYRSAMXYZ at AOL.COM. THANKS FOR ANY HELP OR GUIDANCE. SAM From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 08:31:46 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:31:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR Message-ID: I just heard yesterday, about the North Texas Healey Roundup, being held in Salado. I was not given much information, so if anyone knows any more details, I'd sure appreciate it. With all the Heavy Healey owners, is it even worth going? Should I see if Frank's dad could custom make a T-Shirt for me "F" ALL Ya'll I drive a SPRITE!! Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Feb 18 08:43:46 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:43:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] NTHR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <015701c991df$b108d390$131a7ab0$@net> Sorry Brad to not getting RIGHT BACKJ North Texas Healey Roundup April 17  19th Hosted By the Gulf Coast Healy Club of Houston at the Historic Stagecoach Inn in Salado TX Salado is located between Georgetown and Temple and central to central Texas. Contact info for registration : Mike and Anne Johnson (713) 664-6445 HYPERLINK "mailto:masprite at sbcglobal.net"masprite at sbcglobal.net Leo Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 AM From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Feb 18 08:51:49 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:51:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] NTHR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <015c01c991e0$cfc29ef0$6f47dcd0$@net> Forgot to add: Registration prior to 03/15/09 is $85.00 and after 04/15/09 is $105.00 There are also dinner tickets and regalia available. I am awaiting a copy of the form and will e-mail it to all interested parties as soon as I get it. Leo Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 AM From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Feb 18 09:01:12 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:01:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <016401c991e2$2092d560$61b88020$@net> According to some sources the 2008 Roundup was quite a blast. Lots of cars are in Attendance (the block of rooms set aside for it (50 of them) is already fully booked although there are numerous bed and breakfast's nearby) BUT I am sure there will be a lot of big healeys but there will also be lots of Sprites. I gotta go :) My two wives (Cathey and Iris) need the outing. BTW... Anybody know how to get hold of Dean in Oklahoma?? And is there a contact list of the people who went to LOTO available. Need to find a couple of people on it. Leo Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 AM From pythias at pacifier.com Wed Feb 18 09:12:43 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:12:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR In-Reply-To: <016401c991e2$2092d560$61b88020$@net> References: <016401c991e2$2092d560$61b88020$@net> Message-ID: <135184864.20090218081243@pacifier.com> Hello, I already sent Leo the list he wanted. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "Don't add too much water," said Tom with great concentration. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 09:36:47 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:36:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] numbers on the doors of our Spridgets question..... In-Reply-To: <205cef430902180705n15deb26fqa6f05d2fb8fdc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902180705n15deb26fqa6f05d2fb8fdc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902180836t3202a1b6t6326f88f20c36666@mail.gmail.com> Linda, Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe that is the body (chassis) number. I know of at least one car which is using that number on its title as a VIN! Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > What do the numbers on the inside of the door jam represent? > Lin From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Feb 18 09:52:59 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:52:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder References: <853469.77903.qm@web50610.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Its for retaining a bit of residual pressure so the brake shoe return springs don't fully retract the shoes causing you to have to pump up to get brake action each time. Its also helps for solo bleeding. HOWEVER!!! It has less function in a disc brake car and will cause the front discs to constantly rub a bit too much and wear out the pads pretty fast. Disc brake conversions require you to punch a small hole in the rubber cup to mitigate the effect. Glen > > > What is the check valve in our LBC brake master cylinder for? > > > > When looking in racing type catalogs they sell master cylinders - not > distinguishing between brake or clutch (such as > http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=3500 ). From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 18 10:00:15 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:00:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] NTHR In-Reply-To: <015c01c991e0$cfc29ef0$6f47dcd0$@net> References: <015c01c991e0$cfc29ef0$6f47dcd0$@net> Message-ID: <36E00D81-2D9C-4FC5-8836-A12B8EA8654B@comcast.net> Pease include me on that list Leo.. Lester On Feb 18, 2009, at 9:51 AM, Leo wrote: > Forgot to add: Registration prior to 03/15/09 is $85.00 and after > 04/15/09 > is $105.00 > > There are also dinner tickets and regalia available. I am awaiting a > copy of > the form and will e-mail it to all interested parties as soon as I > get it. > > > > Leo > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: > 2/11/2009 12:00 > AM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From nlaredbt7 at tbc.net Wed Feb 18 10:07:53 2009 From: nlaredbt7 at tbc.net (Neil Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:07:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR References: Message-ID: Actually, it is just "Texas Healey Roundup". The event rotates between the three Texas clubs hosting it for that year. It is a great event, lots of big Healeys and Sprites (maybe 60-70), great time of the year and great people. I flew down one year and attended with the Gillelands (past AHCA pres.) You don't have to go with a Sprite chip on your shoulder. They love Sprites down there. They ran the Spec Sprite racing class for a while, don't know if they still run. Another past AHCA pres. drives a Bugeye. If they have a gymkhana, you might get to beat some big Healeys if it is a tight course. North Texas Healey club is here: www.ntahc.org Contact their President - Chris Kellner for Roundup info. I am sure he would love to send you a registration form. cwkellner at pconn.com One of our members from the Midwest club has driven down the last couple years. It is one of the premier local Healey events put on every year. Go, and have fun!! Neil Anderson Midwest AHCA '60 BT7 '59 Bugeye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: "Spridget list" ; "Yahoo Spridget list" Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:31 AM Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR >I just heard yesterday, about the North Texas Healey Roundup, being held in > Salado. I was not given much information, so if anyone knows any more > details, I'd sure appreciate it. With all the Heavy Healey owners, is it > even worth going? > Should I see if Frank's dad could custom make a T-Shirt for me "F" ALL > Ya'll I drive a SPRITE!! > > Brad > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nlaredbt7 at tbc.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From healeymnster at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 11:09:40 2009 From: healeymnster at gmail.com (Ed Townley) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:09:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR Message-ID: <164073bc0902181009x2ef62959l4cfdb8f6c27f67c5@mail.gmail.com> Brad: before you get your panties in a bunch, check their webpage at http://www.ntahc.org/ and I attended one of their roundups a couple of years back, in a BE, along with several other sprite owners.and no one turned up their noses or refused to let us play--as i recall, one of the long -time members has a square body, and attends all events. you ought to attend one before you decide they are elitists. great bunch of folks Ed Townley Southern NM, USA Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:31:46 -0600 From: Brad Fornal Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR To: Spridget list , Yahoo Spridget list Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just heard yesterday, about the North Texas Healey Roundup, being held in Salado. I was not given much information, so if anyone knows any more details, I'd sure appreciate it. With all the Heavy Healey owners, is it even worth going? Should I see if Frank's dad could custom make a T-Shirt for me "F" ALL Ya'll I drive a SPRITE!! Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 11:17:58 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:17:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR In-Reply-To: <164073bc0902181009x2ef62959l4cfdb8f6c27f67c5@mail.gmail.com> References: <164073bc0902181009x2ef62959l4cfdb8f6c27f67c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: For those that know me, they know I'm talkin' crap. I am willing to bet Hortense, the Heavy Healey's owner spewed beer on the monitor laughing. Sorry ya'll didn't get the joke, I'll make sure to add the , or ;^P next time. Thanks for the link, my wife and I would like to attend, if they accept non members. Brad On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Ed Townley wrote: > Brad: before you get your panties in a bunch, check their webpage at > http://www.ntahc.org/ > and I attended one of their roundups a couple of years back, in a BE, along > with several other sprite owners.and no one turned up their noses or refused > to let us play--as i recall, one of the long -time members has a square > body, and attends all events. you ought to attend one before you decide they > are elitists. great bunch of folks > Ed Townley > Southern NM, USA > > > > > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:31:46 -0600 > From: Brad Fornal > Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR > To: Spridget list , Yahoo Spridget list > > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I just heard yesterday, about the North Texas Healey Roundup, being held in > Salado. I was not given much information, so if anyone knows any more > details, I'd sure appreciate it. With all the Heavy Healey owners, is it > even worth going? > Should I see if Frank's dad could custom make a T-Shirt for me "F" ALL > Ya'll I drive a SPRITE!! > > Brad > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Feb 18 11:23:31 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:23:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR References: <164073bc0902181009x2ef62959l4cfdb8f6c27f67c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > For those that know me, they know I'm talkin' crap. I am willing to bet > Hortense, the Heavy Healey's owner spewed beer on the monitor laughing. Brad, Y'all'all need to learn the correct spelling of "Heavey Healey". From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 11:26:59 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:26:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR In-Reply-To: References: <164073bc0902181009x2ef62959l4cfdb8f6c27f67c5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: FWIW, I'd be tempted to trade the GTO I have had for almost 30 years, for a BN1 in similar condition. Needing some minor bodywork, paint and interior. Not that I think that would ever come along, but I DO like the Healey 100 the best. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM, David Lieb wrote: > For those that know me, they know I'm talkin' crap. I am willing to bet >> Hortense, the Heavy Healey's owner spewed beer on the monitor laughing. >> > > Brad, > Y'all'all need to learn the correct spelling of "Heavey Healey". > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rbastedo at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 11:57:26 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:57:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] David Riker - are you out there? Message-ID: I've recently looked over Mr. Riker's site, but the email addresses on it don't work: http://home.pacbell.net/davriker/Midget%20Web/Midget.htm He's apparently used a Datsun B210 transmission in his Midget, not the "60" version but the bigger "63" version. I have the opportunity to mate this type of transmission to my Nissan 1500 motor and I'm wondering what kind of troubles I'm going to have fitting it in my 78 Midget. Currently I have the Nissan 1500 with the Nissan 4 speed transmission installed. Rick (gotta have more gears) Bastedo From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Feb 18 12:22:30 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:22:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NTHR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: My neighbour, an ex-triumph owner from way back, refers to them as squealy Healeys. ----Original Message Follows---- Brad, Y'all'all need to learn the correct spelling of "Heavey Healey". From peter at nosimport.com Wed Feb 18 12:34:49 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:34:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Got that? Message-ID: <200902181134922.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Our Standard Carrier Alpha Code (SCAC) changes March 1, 2009. Yellow Transportation (YFSY) and Roadway (RDWY) become YRC. YRC will be using the "RDWY" SCAC on March 1, 2009 and beyond. For YRC Reimer the SCAC will remain REIM. From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Wed Feb 18 12:37:32 2009 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:37:32 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49729E34-014D-432E-AD12-2A7D9C36562A@gerardsgarage.com> That's actually incorrect Glen. A residual valve should not be used with disc brakes. There is a different valve used with the disc brake kits. see: http://brakecylinder.com/images/LockheedSprings.jpg The plastic valve on the right are the ones that should be used. This is more of a "retarding valve" rather than a residual valve. The metal cup style on the left needs to have the rubber insert left out. I suppose your hole in the rubber cup could serve the same purpose, but I would be concerned that before long, that hole will become easily obstructed with debris. In addition, it is also necessary to do something different when using the disc brake conversion on the Morris Minor. Separate external residual valves should be used for front and rear because of the position of the master cylinder. With the master cylinder being lower than the calipers, you need to prevent fluid drain-back by using a 2 lb residual valve in the main line to the front branch. I use a 10lb residual valve to the rear drums. Gerard > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:52:59 -0800 > From: "Glen Byrns" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder > To: "Spridgets" > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Its for retaining a bit of residual pressure so the brake shoe return > springs don't fully retract the shoes causing you to have to pump > up to get > brake action each time. Its also helps for solo bleeding. > HOWEVER!!! It > has less function in a disc brake car and will cause the front > discs to > constantly rub a bit too much and wear out the pads pretty fast. > Disc brake > conversions require you to punch a small hole in the rubber cup to > mitigate > the effect. > > Glen From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Feb 18 12:39:48 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:39:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] TR-2 Message-ID: Anyone want a TR-2 in NJ? I know nothing about it except someone asked me if I were interested. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Feb 18 13:10:40 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:10:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Got that? In-Reply-To: <200902181134922.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <200902181134922.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <499BFAC0.21589.F8AC88@kk7ss.verizon.net> Duh! -- Okay --- if you say so ;-? On 18 Feb 2009 at 13:34, Peter Caldwell wrote: >> Our Standard Carrier Alpha Code (SCAC) changes March 1, 2009. >> >> Yellow Transportation (YFSY) and Roadway (RDWY) become YRC. >> >> YRC will be using the "RDWY" SCAC on March 1, 2009 and beyond. >> >> For YRC Reimer the SCAC will remain REIM. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 14:18:12 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:18:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Got that? In-Reply-To: <200902181134922.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <200902181134922.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902181318l7d3c5606od30a6a4c62537f24@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Our Standard Carrier Alpha Code (SCAC) changes March 1, 2009. > > Yellow Transportation (YFSY) and Roadway (RDWY) become YRC. > > YRC will be using the "RDWY" SCAC on March 1, 2009 and beyond. > > For YRC Reimer the SCAC will remain REIM. Yes, PPP, but will YRC Reimer (SCAC REIM) still deliver ASAP? JPYC (Just pulling your chain) ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 18 14:20:01 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:20:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Got that? In-Reply-To: <200902181134922.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> References: <200902181134922.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <3886570C-AB71-4871-BFFE-15862B6BAA94@comcast.net> Please tell me that you meant to send that to someone else.. please... Leste On Feb 18, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Our Standard Carrier Alpha Code (SCAC) changes March 1, 2009. > > Yellow Transportation (YFSY) and Roadway (RDWY) become YRC. > > YRC will be using the "RDWY" SCAC on March 1, 2009 and beyond. > > For YRC Reimer the SCAC will remain REIM. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 18 14:22:22 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:22:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder In-Reply-To: <49729E34-014D-432E-AD12-2A7D9C36562A@gerardsgarage.com> References: <49729E34-014D-432E-AD12-2A7D9C36562A@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: .. uhh.. so on my car where all i did is switch out the mechanical components and no master cylinder ones means that I: 1. have a soon to fail disc drag on the rotors or b. have installed something incorrectly in the Master Cylinder rebuild leading to catastrophic failure later?? Lester On Feb 18, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Gerard Chateauvieux wrote: > That's actually incorrect Glen. > > A residual valve should not be used with disc brakes. There is a > different valve used with the disc brake kits. > > see: http://brakecylinder.com/images/LockheedSprings.jpg > > The plastic valve on the right are the ones that should be used. > This is more of a "retarding valve" rather than a residual valve. > The metal cup style on the left needs to have the rubber insert left > out. I suppose your hole in the rubber cup could serve the same > purpose, but I would be concerned that before long, that hole will > become easily obstructed with debris. > > In addition, it is also necessary to do something different when > using the disc brake conversion on the Morris Minor. Separate > external residual valves should be used for front and rear because > of the position of the master cylinder. With the master cylinder > being lower than the calipers, you need to prevent fluid drain-back > by using a 2 lb residual valve in the main line to the front branch. > I use a 10lb residual valve to the rear drums. > > Gerard > >> Message: 6 >> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:52:59 -0800 >> From: "Glen Byrns" >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder >> To: "Spridgets" >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Its for retaining a bit of residual pressure so the brake shoe return >> springs don't fully retract the shoes causing you to have to pump >> up to get >> brake action each time. Its also helps for solo bleeding. >> HOWEVER!!! It >> has less function in a disc brake car and will cause the front >> discs to >> constantly rub a bit too much and wear out the pads pretty fast. >> Disc brake >> conversions require you to punch a small hole in the rubber cup to >> mitigate >> the effect. >> >> Glen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From peter at nosimport.com Wed Feb 18 14:27:52 2009 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:27:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Got that? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902181318l7d3c5606od30a6a4c62537f24@mail.gmail.co m> References: <200902181134922.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> <43840a7e0902181318l7d3c5606od30a6a4c62537f24@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090218132731.SM01632@owner-3b66599e3.nosimport.com> At 03:18 PM 2/18/2009, Jim Johnson wrote: >On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:34 PM, Peter Caldwell ><peter at nosimport.com> wrote: >Our Standard Carrier Alpha Code (SCAC) changes March 1, 2009. > >Yellow Transportation (YFSY) and Roadway (RDWY) become YRC. > >YRC will be using the "RDWY" SCAC on March 1, 2009 and beyond. > >For YRC Reimer the SCAC will remain REIM. > > >Yes, PPP, but will YRC Reimer (SCAC REIM) still deliver ASAP? JPYC >(Just pulling your chain) ;-) They say JIT on LTL From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Feb 18 14:53:59 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:53:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] numbers on the doors of our Spridgets question..... In-Reply-To: <205cef430902180705n15deb26fqa6f05d2fb8fdc7@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902180705n15deb26fqa6f05d2fb8fdc7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <499C8377.4020302@wi.net> Hi List, Linda brings up some good points for us A.R. people who relish the historical aspect of our cars. I purchased 17606 in Sept. of 1976 and started getting interested in the history of my "new" toy. I found out about the BMIHT, then called, BL Heritage Trust, and wrote to Anders in 1984. The following is the part of the information I received that pertains to this thread. (this came as a letter as the certificates were not yet given) > > Car #: *AN5L/17606* (On engine chassis plate below air cleaners) > > Car #: ??????????? (Stamped into left side front wishbone mounting > bracket) > > Body #: *BAE/17737* (Plate inside right side door pillar) > > ????? #: *AN 517542* [Plate inside left (near) side door pillar] > > ????? #: *17547* [Stamped into right (off) side body under main > wiring loom & flasher relay (master cylinder, RHD cars)] > > ????? #: ????? [Left hand shock absorber (damper) mounting plate] > > Engine #: *9C-U-H 17604* (On engine block plate above #1 sparking plug) > > Transmission #: ????? (not recorded) > As you can see there are some blanks which I would love to fill. Apparently the number on the damper plate is located under the damper so I will wait to find that number. Anders was unable to shed any light on the meaning of the numbers (1) on the shock plate, (2) on the body under the main harness(17547), and (3) on the plate inside the left (near) side door pillar. This was as of 1992 when I wrote him on another matter. If anyone has any info I'd like to hear it. Any info that comes in I'd be grateful if someone would "store" it for me as I'm leaving 2/20 and won't "enable" the list until 3/2. I'll "disable" you all the morning of 2/20. Now there is a straight line for you! Many thanks and don't get into any fights while I'm gone. Dave W. Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > What do the numbers on the inside of the door jam represent? > Lin From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 18 15:02:04 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:02:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] UK Message-ID: The exchange rate is down to $1.42/#, and we're playing a festival there in April. I'd better get a bigger road case. From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Feb 18 15:33:55 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:33:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] ...and you thought it was the gauge In-Reply-To: <849721.19910.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <849721.19910.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <05F53B610DDB41E0AEF1EDCC70E5FC24@spider> Wednesday, February 18, 2009 SANDY, Utah - A Utah man took his newly acquired used SUV to a mechanic to find out why the gas gauge always read half-full. The mechanic in Sandy looked inside the gas tank and found about 35 pounds of marijuana in plastic-wrap packages that filled about half of the tank's volume. Police estimate the pot is worth about $35,000. The Nissan Armada has had several different owners and was once a rental car. Sandy police are trying to figure out who stashed the pot but say the current owner is not a suspect. Investigators in the town south of Salt Lake City say the drug packs could have been in the tank for months. From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 15:38:19 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:38:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] ...and you thought it was the gauge In-Reply-To: <05F53B610DDB41E0AEF1EDCC70E5FC24@spider> References: <849721.19910.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05F53B610DDB41E0AEF1EDCC70E5FC24@spider> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902181438uc9c969ar31caa163510db037@mail.gmail.com> Where was his head.... That's enough to buy a number of Spridgets!!! Should have kept his mouth shout. ;-) From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Feb 18 15:45:57 2009 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:45:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] numbers on the doors of our Spridgets question..... In-Reply-To: <23C9D09C01624BAD81EB1AFC68519709@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <205cef430902180705n15deb26fqa6f05d2fb8fdc7@mail.gmail.com> <499C8377.4020302@wi.net> <23C9D09C01624BAD81EB1AFC68519709@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <499C8FA5.5020605@wi.net> Thanks Dave. I should have mentioned that I checked the archives and "I can't get no....satisfaction...". just thought I'd help Linda and get some further verification. Also I forgot to remove the statement about the number on the shock tower as Bugeyes do not have those. To Ed, who already wrote me.....YUP, found yours! ;-) Dave W. David Lieb wrote: > Dave, > You DO realize that ED is gonna tell you to follow the link to the > archives that is on every list email to get thosse posts that you are > looking for, right? > >> http://www.team.net/archive > > David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Feb 18 15:53:30 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:53:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] numbers on the doors of our Spridgets question..... In-Reply-To: <499C8377.4020302@wi.net> References: <205cef430902180705n15deb26fqa6f05d2fb8fdc7@mail.gmail.com> <499C8377.4020302@wi.net> Message-ID: <499C916A.50008@comcast.net> What I have heard or read somewhere along the way was that the number stamped into the body shell on the right side under the wire loom (on Bugeyes) is the body stamping number. Now the body number and the chassis numbers do NOT match. As I read (or heard from Geoff Healey) was that the bodys were numbered 1-2-3-4-5-6 when made and loaded into a truck (Lorry) As the came out of the truck, 6-5-4-3-2-1 at the assembly line, they went to cars 1-2-3-4-5-6 thus mixing up the numbers by a few in the beginning to several hundred by the end of the run. Also the left door post number had something to do with paint and interior. That's what I have heard, or read but I did not read it on the internet so it may not be true ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From cartman at rcn.com Wed Feb 18 15:53:15 2009 From: cartman at rcn.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:53:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ...and you thought it was the gauge In-Reply-To: <05F53B610DDB41E0AEF1EDCC70E5FC24@spider> References: <849721.19910.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <05F53B610DDB41E0AEF1EDCC70E5FC24@spider> Message-ID: Must be that new Bio-Willie fuel I keep hearing about! :) On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:33 PM, wrote: > Wednesday, February 18, 2009 > SANDY, Utah - A Utah man took his newly acquired used SUV to a mechanic to > find out why the gas gauge always read half-full. > > The mechanic in Sandy looked inside the gas tank and found about 35 pounds > of marijuana in plastic-wrap packages that filled about half of the tank's > volume. > > Police estimate the pot is worth about $35,000. > > The Nissan Armada has had several different owners and was once a rental > car. > > Sandy police are trying to figure out who stashed the pot but say the > current owner is not a suspect. > > Investigators in the town south of Salt Lake City say the drug packs could > have been in the tank for months. From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 15:56:12 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:56:12 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste In-Reply-To: <205cef430902180700s2153208aw88d37975241e0a76@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902170200k21ff2e05ge9646307e8edc9bb@mail.gmail.com> <801C7F9573A54B93AE73BD8D53E97086@GuyLaptop> <205cef430902180700s2153208aw88d37975241e0a76@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902181456x1832855ah8ecd0ba39feed0c9@mail.gmail.com> If you've got the money, Honey....I'm sure someone has the time. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Feb 18 15:56:59 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:56:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Master Cylinder References: <49729E34-014D-432E-AD12-2A7D9C36562A@gerardsgarage.com> Message-ID: <62E50FF66CD84E6BBEB1B942C53FD12E@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Be that as it may, I've got a bugeye with a umpteen miles done with a small hole in the metal-can-cup. Works great. I've got three daily driver LBCs with the Morris style in-the-frame-leg master cylinders (the A35 is like the Moggies), and all have discs fitted with the same modification to the little rubber cup. All work great. My wife's Traveler had dragging brakes until I put the little hole in the cup and all is now excellent. I sure hope I don't get debris in the MC big enought to block ANY size hole. Best, Glen > That's actually incorrect Glen. > > A residual valve should not be used with disc brakes. There is a > different valve used with the disc brake kits. > > see: http://brakecylinder.com/images/LockheedSprings.jpg > > The plastic valve on the right are the ones that should be used. This is > more of a "retarding valve" rather than a residual valve. The metal cup > style on the left needs to have the rubber insert left out. I suppose > your hole in the rubber cup could serve the same purpose, but I would be > concerned that before long, that hole will become easily obstructed with > debris. > > In addition, it is also necessary to do something different when using > the disc brake conversion on the Morris Minor. Separate external residual > valves should be used for front and rear because of the position of the > master cylinder. With the master cylinder being lower than the calipers, > you need to prevent fluid drain-back by using a 2 lb residual valve in > the main line to the front branch. I use a 10lb residual valve to the > rear drums. > > Gerard From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Wed Feb 18 16:28:15 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:28:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] ...and you thought it was the gauge In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10902181438uc9c969ar31caa163510db037@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <912245.77100.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 2/18/09, WFO Herb wrote: "Where was his head.... That's enough to buy a number of Spridgets!!!" Only if it was wrapped REALLY, REALLY well... - David Booker From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Feb 18 16:29:29 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:29:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] ...and you thought it was the gauge In-Reply-To: <912245.77100.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <2ad6c6b10902181438uc9c969ar31caa163510db037@mail.gmail.com> <912245.77100.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Yes, that would be quite a high .plus _____ From: David Booker [mailto:tncarnut1 at yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:28 PM To: corvallis at peoplepc.com; WFO Herb Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ...and you thought it was the gauge --- On Wed, 2/18/09, WFO Herb wrote: "Where was his head.... That's enough to buy a number of Spridgets!!!" Only if it was wrapped REALLY, REALLY well... - David Booker No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/18/09 08:57:00 From healeyrick at yahoo.com Wed Feb 18 17:39:25 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:39:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] For 'hopper Message-ID: <11475.76397.qm@web51406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> http://missiong.com/video/The-JabbaWockeez From hgmiller3 at qwest.net Wed Feb 18 18:08:19 2009 From: hgmiller3 at qwest.net (Herbert Miller) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:08:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] UK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090219010818.996BF53BC40@mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net> You should see a substantial reduction in the price of parts from your favorite supplier. NO Herb Miller -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Billy Zoom Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:02 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] UK The exchange rate is down to $1.42/#, and we're playing a festival there in April. I'd better get a bigger road case. You are subscribed as hgmiller3 at qwest.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/18/09 08:57:00 From d.swanson at earthlink.net Wed Feb 18 19:17:54 2009 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:17:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Midget Weight Message-ID: <19DBF3F29D82467DABAF5C5B5CF772C1@HomeComputer> Anyone have an estimate of how much a '73 Midget without engine and transmission weights. Percent of weight front/rear without engine/trans? Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Feb 18 19:57:50 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:57:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Texas Healey Roundup In-Reply-To: <36E00D81-2D9C-4FC5-8836-A12B8EA8654B@comcast.net> References: <015c01c991e0$cfc29ef0$6f47dcd0$@net> <36E00D81-2D9C-4FC5-8836-A12B8EA8654B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <01a701c9923d$da9d6be0$8fd843a0$@net> If anybody want the registration form for the Texas Healey Roundup I now have it. Mark E. You cannot come unless you leave the red car at home (>: Leo Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 AM From shop at justbrits.com Wed Feb 18 20:33:09 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:33:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Texas Healey Roundup In-Reply-To: <01a701c9923d$da9d6be0$8fd843a0$@net> Message-ID: <> Bill Gates doesn't have enough money to even BEGIN to make me want to go back, Leo!! Did YOU get my private mail to you this AM??? IMPORTENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Wed Feb 18 22:47:08 2009 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:47:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] 5 spd & diff ratios Message-ID: <257324.40332.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> greetings folks. I am wondering if anyone who runs a datsun 5 spd / 1275 combination has made the change from 4.2 to 3.9 or 3.7 final drive gears. I am currently runnning the standard 4.2 rear, and first gear almost seems unnecessary! (almost, not quite) My motor is mildly tuned, and currently still pulls nicely in 5th gear. There is provision for more tuning (isn't there always?) as I have assembled a fairly good bottom end IMO with ARP main studs and rod bolts. Also I have yet to do any real work to the head other than hardened seats. Also, has anyone tried fitting an MG metro turbo to a spridget? ( I am guessing those with LHD cars would have no room) But it looks like it might just fit a RHD car... even if it slow roasts the passengers feet. cheers for input Andy Make Yahoo!7 your homepage and win a trip to the Quiksilver Pro. Find out more From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Feb 18 22:54:54 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 00:54:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Texas Healey Roundup References: <015c01c991e0$cfc29ef0$6f47dcd0$@net><36E00D81-2D9C-4FC5-8836-A12B8EA8654B@comcast.net> <01a701c9923d$da9d6be0$8fd843a0$@net> Message-ID: <4A66DF7CA5E94F8C8ABCD3328C3CBD23@blackbox2> How about a Sir Allen Stanford Roundup instead? I understand he was from Texas and there are some mighty anxious folks looking for him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Subject: [Spridgets] Texas Healey Roundup > If anybody want the registration form for the Texas Healey Roundup I now > have it. From shop at justbrits.com Thu Feb 19 04:06:01 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:06:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ...and you thought it was the gauge In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> Sorta like a high octane high ???? From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 04:05:45 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:05:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] numbers on the doors of our Spridgets question..... In-Reply-To: <499C916A.50008@comcast.net> References: <205cef430902180705n15deb26fqa6f05d2fb8fdc7@mail.gmail.com> <499C8377.4020302@wi.net> <499C916A.50008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430902190305h7b5ed9d3l2681297e62c84f1@mail.gmail.com> List, Wow these are very interesting facts too bad none are in a book yet. I have purchased several Sprite books are there any others that may contain the info for the left side plate to identify what paint and interior was given to the car at birth or do I need to purchase a Heritage certificate? Also what are those certificates going for now a days? Lin On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > What I have heard or read somewhere along the way was that the number > stamped into the body shell on the right side under the wire loom (on > Bugeyes) is the body stamping number. > Now the body number and the chassis numbers do NOT match. > As I read (or heard from Geoff Healey) was that the bodys were numbered > 1-2-3-4-5-6 when made and loaded into a truck (Lorry) > As the came out of the truck, 6-5-4-3-2-1 at the assembly line, they went > to cars 1-2-3-4-5-6 thus mixing up the numbers by a few in the beginning to > several hundred by the end of the run. > Also the left door post number had something to do with paint and interior. > That's what I have heard, or read but I did not read it on the internet so > it may not be true ;) > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 04:20:09 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:20:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] The epitome of good taste In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10902181456x1832855ah8ecd0ba39feed0c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902170200k21ff2e05ge9646307e8edc9bb@mail.gmail.com> <801C7F9573A54B93AE73BD8D53E97086@GuyLaptop> <205cef430902180700s2153208aw88d37975241e0a76@mail.gmail.com> <2ad6c6b10902181456x1832855ah8ecd0ba39feed0c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902190320u128b86fcs8383ac2d3ea177c0@mail.gmail.com> Woops I'm out ; ) On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > If you've got the money, Honey....I'm sure someone has the time. From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 04:45:50 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:45:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa Message-ID: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> 170304048592 Lin From cooper6 at swbell.net Thu Feb 19 04:46:36 2009 From: cooper6 at swbell.net (Martin) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:46:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <67742BE6395F499F95DBA1216E8A8F67@MAIN> References: <67742BE6395F499F95DBA1216E8A8F67@MAIN> Message-ID: No mail in a two days what's up? From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 04:56:50 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:56:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: so who on the list is ready to drop in the starting bid of 10K? On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > 170304048592 > Lin > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Feb 19 06:28:30 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:28:30 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I didn't win the lottery. 5 speed transmission. I wonder if there is a reverse. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Brad Fornal so who on the list is ready to drop in the starting bid of 10K? On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > 170304048592 > Lin From vern at srvinet.com Thu Feb 19 06:33:47 2009 From: vern at srvinet.com (Vern) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 06:33:47 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 rear oil seal? In-Reply-To: <4990474B.BE92.0044.0@lacity.org> References: <49908CE7.6000306@mninter.net> <79C01DDF-419D-475E-BB17-C2A4ED0F2FE0@comcast.net> <4990474B.BE92.0044.0@lacity.org> Message-ID: <499D5FBB.2060409@srvinet.com> I am ready to build up my metro 1500 engine and am not sure about the rear seal or dust excluder or whatever it is. I looked for three hours on the net and all my books and found really nothing. I can see that there is an oil thrower and drain tube behind the the rear bearing. I found two strips of cork like material in the gasket kit that look llike they might go behlind that, but there isn't really a good recess for them to go in. Any advice? Vern Nathan Hall wrote: > Some sonofagun stole my Victor gasket catalog @ work but look it up @ NAPA under 1961 MGA , 1500/1600 engine . > > ANY NAPA store will order it in . > > -Nate > Frank Asks : > > Does anyone know of an auto parts supplier that would have an oil pan > gasket for a 1500? Thanks Frank > _______________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > > REMEMBER TO TRIM REPLIES! > _______________________________________________ > Metchat mailing list > Metchat at magnum.autoclubs.ca > http://magnum.autoclubs.ca/mailman/listinfo/metchat From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Feb 19 06:35:29 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:35:29 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] quality parts for quality people In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://madeinusa.com/index.shtml From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 06:35:53 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:35:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902190535j459b0b03hc365fa7412f40c4e@mail.gmail.com> I only like the color : ) Lin On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Brad Fornal wrote: > so who on the list is ready to drop in the starting bid of 10K? > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> 170304048592 >> Lin >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Feb 19 07:29:25 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:29:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> GAG!!!!! Throwing up as I write. What is up with those god awful seats and the cutout for the drivers seat??? Did the car get done by the show "pimp my ride"?? Leo Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 AM From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 07:33:39 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:33:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> <020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> Message-ID: So I take YOU are not going to bid?? On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > GAG!!!!! Throwing up as I write. What is up with those god awful seats and > the cutout for the drivers seat??? Did the car get done by the show "pimp > my ride"?? > > Leo > > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 > 12:00 > AM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 07:35:00 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:35:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> <020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> Message-ID: IF you are lucky, maybe you can talk him into giving you some trade in value from Iris. I mean, you don't need TWO Bugeyes, do you? On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > GAG!!!!! Throwing up as I write. What is up with those god awful seats and > the cutout for the drivers seat??? Did the car get done by the show "pimp > my ride"?? > > Leo > > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 > 12:00 > AM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Thu Feb 19 07:47:30 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:47:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090219144731.JAMZ20095.hrndva-omta01.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> My thoughts exactly. Could a Gold Wing transmission actually handle that kind of drive train? Also, I have this vision of the classic Honda "T" gauge cluster on the steering column. Push button start? Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:29 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa I didn't win the lottery. 5 speed transmission. I wonder if there is a reverse. From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Feb 19 08:04:22 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:04:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <020c01c992a3$596a6800$0c3f3800$@net> Quick question but one based on originality. On the original "Lucas" tar top batteries were the posts to the front of the filler caps or to the rear of the filler caps? We are speaking as in looking from the front of the car towards the firewall. Thanks Leo Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 AM From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 19 08:03:09 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:03:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com><020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> Message-ID: <44FEE46595E94FDF969E9856710F2FB0@NilesAD.von.gov> >> GAG!!!!! Throwing up as I write. What is up with those god awful seats >> and >> the cutout for the drivers seat??? Did the car get done by the show >> "pimp >> my ride"?? > So I take YOU are not going to bid?? Au contraire, Brad. Old tactic for reducing the competition in an auction. BTW, just what kinda tranny is in there? Yes, I know that some Goldwings do have reverse, but the shifter looks like ribcase material. David Lieb From proefrock at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 08:03:20 2009 From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:03:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine In-Reply-To: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm no purist, yet this car offends me. Maybe I'm more of a purist than I thought. On Feb 19, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > 170304048592 > Lin > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as proefrock at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Feb 19 08:12:05 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:12:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <59C06D8E17934DF6B79934AA21EAB7FD@Home> > 170304048592 But do you want a car that has bear metal in it? That must be even worse than Chinese steel. You can see where he had to cut out some of the bear metal behind the driver's seat just so he could sit in it. Michael Rowe From george.brokaw at cox.net Thu Feb 19 08:12:12 2009 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:12:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <007501c992a4$714fb230$53ef1690$@brokaw@cox.net> FYI, IAW a Goldwing site, the 1988-2001 1500s have reverse. http://www.goldwingworld.com/pages/description.htm http://www.goldwingworld.com/pages/specgl1500.htm 100 HP and 110 ft.lbs of torque. Interesting engine for a Spridget... George -----Original Message----- Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa 170304048592 Lin From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Feb 19 08:18:41 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:18:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <44FEE46595E94FDF969E9856710F2FB0@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com><020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> <44FEE46595E94FDF969E9856710F2FB0@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <021201c992a5$59289220$0b79b660$@net> Yaaaa... I am going to bid. Negative $100.00 as it would take ten times that to be seen with those seats and interior. But then again it might look great lowered with hydraulics and some naked lady airbrushed across the rear deck lid (but where would you put the joystick controller for the hydraulics). Pimp my ride couldnt even do as bad as this one. GAGGGGGGGGGGGGGG Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:03 AM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa >> GAG!!!!! Throwing up as I write. What is up with those god awful seats >> and >> the cutout for the drivers seat??? Did the car get done by the show >> "pimp >> my ride"?? > So I take YOU are not going to bid?? Au contraire, Brad. Old tactic for reducing the competition in an auction. BTW, just what kinda tranny is in there? Yes, I know that some Goldwings do have reverse, but the shifter looks like ribcase material. David Lieb You are subscribed as 60bugeye at cebridge.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 AM Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 AM From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Feb 19 08:29:45 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:29:45 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <021201c992a5$59289220$0b79b660$@net> Message-ID: I dunno! It doesn't look like it would take alot to get her presentable again. I think it would be cheaper to weld in and paint that piece behind the seat and replace the seats than it would be to make her a low rider with custom paint. :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> Yaaaa... I am going to bid. Negative $100.00 as it would take ten times that to be seen with those seats and interior. But then again it might look great lowered with hydraulics and some naked lady airbrushed across the rear deck lid (but where would you put the joystick controller for the hydraulics). Pimp my ride couldnt even do as bad as this one. GAGGGGGGGGGGGGGG Leo -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:03 AM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa >> GAG!!!!! Throwing up as I write. What is up with those god awful seats >> and >> the cutout for the drivers seat??? Did the car get done by the show >> "pimp >> my ride"?? > So I take YOU are not going to bid?? Au contraire, Brad. Old tactic for reducing the competition in an auction. BTW, just what kinda tranny is in there? Yes, I know that some Goldwings do have reverse, but the shifter looks like ribcase material. David Lieb From tinydog at snet.net Thu Feb 19 08:42:36 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:42:36 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: <021920091542.12477.499D7DEC000B8AB4000030BD22218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> tinydog sez: please ignore. i am undergoing a test at the vet. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 19 08:46:55 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:46:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Test References: <021920091542.12477.499D7DEC000B8AB4000030BD22218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <5D5996A0E7D84F0589C4DBB1FE8C3F4B@NilesAD.von.gov> > please ignore. i am undergoing a test at the vet. Yup, that is the usual line used on the dog as they slip the anasthetic in... Better check between your legs when you wake up ;-) ED From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Feb 19 08:50:54 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 07:50:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <5D5996A0E7D84F0589C4DBB1FE8C3F4B@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <021920091542.12477.499D7DEC000B8AB4000030BD22218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> <5D5996A0E7D84F0589C4DBB1FE8C3F4B@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <57E1734894DC4630AA043D24D5B3387D@spider> ...no big deal. ---------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:47 AM To: tinydog at snet.net; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Test > please ignore. i am undergoing a test at the vet. Yup, that is the usual line used on the dog as they slip the anasthetic in... Better check between your legs when you wake up ;-) ED _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 19 09:31:41 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:31:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: An he redone it from the ground up. He's only slightly more literate than the guys on the Ranchero message board. Anybody know what a Gold Wing engine weighs? From proefrock at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 09:40:17 2009 From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:40:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The GL1100 service manual lists the engine weight as 238 pounds. I'm not a motorcycle guy, I don't know if that figure includes the gearbox?? On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > An he redone it from the ground up. He's only slightly more > literate than > the guys on the Ranchero message board. Anybody know what a Gold Wing > engine weighs? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as proefrock at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 19 09:44:22 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 08:44:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <499D8C66.6020401@frontiernet.net> Did anyone notice any instrumentation at all in this pimpmobile? Kate From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 19 09:53:34 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:53:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa References: <499D8C66.6020401@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > Did anyone notice any instrumentation at all in this pimpmobile? Kate, The seller states that the dash is 3" thick and he couldn't bring himself to drill holes in it. Then he puts boat seats in it! From proefrock at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 09:53:30 2009 From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:53:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye In-Reply-To: <499D8C66.6020401@frontiernet.net> References: <499D8C66.6020401@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <40330856-80F6-4698-B750-4000E94DCC69@comcast.net> Guages are on the lower console, in front of the shifter. Seller claims (in all caps) he didn't want to drill into the 3+ inch thick walnut dash. So, you're not just getting a dashboard, you're getting a dashlog! On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > Did anyone notice any instrumentation at all in this pimpmobile? > > Kate > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as proefrock at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From george.brokaw at cox.net Thu Feb 19 10:21:20 2009 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:21:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <007601c992b6$7b94eaf0$72bec0d0$@brokaw@cox.net> IAW the 1994 Service Manual (Engine Removal) the dry weight is 275 lbs. 1100 Goldwing is a 4 cylinder engine (@ 238 lbs) while the 88- are 6 cylinder engines. And yes, that includes the transmission since it is a part of the engine. You have to split the engine cases to get at the transmission. So if my brain is working correctly (it isn't... had surgery yesterday and still recovering from it) the Goldwing 1500 engine has more horsepower and torque than the 1275/1500 engines in Spridgets (stock) and weighs less (engine and transmission together). It is WIDE though (30.1") and that makes it interesting to fit between the fenders without cutting (a very quick measurement of my tub showed ~ 29.x" between the front of the fenders.) Another interesting thing is that the transmission is under the engine so hardly anything from the engine/transmission would be in the tunnel! Just the driveshaft from what I determine. Another thought, this engine/transmission moves a bike of ~ 800 lbs with two riders, figure ~ another 350 lbs for a total of 1150 lbs and I have seen them built as a trike pulling a trailer! That cannot be much less (if not more) than a Spridget weight. George -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Proefrock The GL1100 service manual lists the engine weight as 238 pounds. I'm not a motorcycle guy, I don't know if that figure includes the gearbox?? On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > An he redone it from the ground up. He's only slightly more > literate than > the guys on the Ranchero message board. Anybody know what a Gold Wing > engine weighs? > _______________________________________________ From mdrowe at optonline.net Thu Feb 19 10:41:04 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:41:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust headers Message-ID: <629B44E8B45841EF9D068C7DA92D1FAB@Home> Cheap ($150) LCB exhaust headers use a 3-into-1 design. The more expensive ones ($250) use a 2-into-1 plus 2-into-1 design. Any thoughts on whether or not the latter is worth $100 more for a fast street car? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 19 10:50:57 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:50:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust headers References: <629B44E8B45841EF9D068C7DA92D1FAB@Home> Message-ID: <90BF68D5446C4841AD1E470E37F281A0@NilesAD.von.gov> Michael, It isn't simply a matter of cost. LCB headers are considered to be the best desing for the 5-port head of an A-series engine. The 4-2-1 design is considered to be preferable for the 8-port heads like the 1500. You would be beetter off with a good LCB (the good ones tend to be more than the $150 you mentioned -- APT shows them at $279) and having it ceramic coated inside and out. Might want to get a O2 sensor bung welded into the three branches, too, while you are at it. You can always have a plug in there. APT has this to say on the topic: One very important point regarding headers. The Long Center branch is the type to use in 99% of all applications, especially for road or vintage racing. The 3 into 1 type header was developed originally for the big bore short stroke 970 S motors with a long duration cam like a sprint or super sprint grind. This worked well in the 970 S case, it made some more top end power - above 8000 RPM! For 99% of all cams now in use, either performance or race, the LCB header will give much better overall performance, and especially will add more torque in the low to mid range (right where you need it the most). Race track testing has proven the LCB to give quicker lap times. Unless you are running at the salt flats only, use an LCB. David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 11:23:45 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:23:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 spd & diff ratios In-Reply-To: <257324.40332.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <257324.40332.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <499DA3B1.6080601@comcast.net> Andy Webster wrote: > greetings folks. > I am wondering if anyone who runs a datsun 5 spd / 1275 > combination has made the change from 4.2 to 3.9 or 3.7 final drive gears. > > I started out with a 3.9 and a 5 speed but quickly, (the next day) put the 4.22 back in. It's just so much more fun to beat the snot out of the rice boys this way ;) I found the 5 speed and 3.9 a bit doggy between 2nd and 3rd, that's why I went back to the 4.22 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 11:32:16 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:32:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery question In-Reply-To: <020c01c992a3$596a6800$0c3f3800$@net> References: <020c01c992a3$596a6800$0c3f3800$@net> Message-ID: <499DA5B0.4080906@comcast.net> Leo wrote: > Quick question but one based on originality. On the original "Lucas" tar > top batteries were the posts to the front of the filler caps or to the rear > of the filler caps? We are speaking as in looking from the front of the > car towards the firewall. > > > Originally the posts were near the firewall, + being on the right (looking at it) or left side of the car. Neg went to the solenoid. Now and even 40 years ago the acid or corrosive action of the battery gas would rot out those 2 bumps in the firewall. So if you must keep it original, stick a lead plate between the battery and the firewall. Plastic might work too. Or if originality is not an issue, get a battery7 with the posts away from the fire wall. I know Leo's car is original and he should keep it that way, it is gorgeous but the last thing I would want to see is a rotted out firewall due to the battery. So Leo, just slip a shield of some sort between the battery and firewall when the car is not being shown. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 11:35:10 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:35:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <021920091542.12477.499D7DEC000B8AB4000030BD22218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> References: <021920091542.12477.499D7DEC000B8AB4000030BD22218865869B0A02D29B0A029CBF02070A0D089C070006@att.net> Message-ID: <499DA65E.3010002@comcast.net> tinydog at snet.net wrote: > tinydog sez: > > please ignore. i am undergoing a test at the vet. > Tinydog gets his "Lab test" At least he isn't getting a "Cat scan" -- just Ed From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 11:33:54 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:33:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 5 spd & diff ratios In-Reply-To: <499DA3B1.6080601@comcast.net> References: <257324.40332.qm@web50604.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <499DA3B1.6080601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8c1781040902191033q7e24c621la723dc52ef8780ef@mail.gmail.com> I'm sticking with the 3.9; Frank is right that you have to rev a bit more in second to get into third at a speed where the car will keep accelerating, but it all depends on where your power band is and what type of driving you do. Trevor On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Andy Webster wrote: >> >> greetings folks. >> I am wondering if anyone who runs a datsun 5 spd / 1275 >> combination has made the change from 4.2 to 3.9 or 3.7 final drive gears. >> >> > > I started out with a 3.9 and a 5 speed but quickly, (the next day) put the > 4.22 back in. > It's just so much more fun to beat the snot out of the rice boys this way ;) > I found the 5 speed and 3.9 a bit doggy between 2nd and 3rd, that's why I > went back to the 4.22 > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 12:13:39 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:13:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye In-Reply-To: <8686825961313478031@unknownmsgid> References: <8686825961313478031@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <205cef430902191113s4bdd74ddn18cd6ea1a224dca@mail.gmail.com> He said it is the stock rear and glass over metal body work.........ugh. What is the opinion regarding the mechanics? And the color is metalic blue 2000 Beetle : ) Lin On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM, George Brokaw wrote: > IAW the 1994 Service Manual (Engine Removal) the dry weight is 275 lbs. > > 1100 Goldwing is a 4 cylinder engine (@ 238 lbs) while the 88- are 6 > cylinder engines. > > And yes, that includes the transmission since it is a part of the engine. > You have to split the engine cases to get at the transmission. > > So if my brain is working correctly (it isn't... had surgery yesterday and > still recovering from it) the Goldwing 1500 engine has more horsepower and > torque than the 1275/1500 engines in Spridgets (stock) and weighs less > (engine and transmission together). It is WIDE though (30.1") and that > makes it interesting to fit between the fenders without cutting (a very > quick measurement of my tub showed ~ 29.x" between the front of the > fenders.) > > Another interesting thing is that the transmission is under the engine so > hardly anything from the engine/transmission would be in the tunnel! Just > the driveshaft from what I determine. > > Another thought, this engine/transmission moves a bike of ~ 800 lbs with > two > riders, figure ~ another 350 lbs for a total of 1150 lbs and I have seen > them built as a trike pulling a trailer! That cannot be much less (if not > more) than a Spridget weight. > > George > > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Proefrock > > The GL1100 service manual lists the engine weight as 238 pounds. I'm > not a motorcycle guy, I don't know if that figure includes the gearbox?? > > On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > > An he redone it from the ground up. He's only slightly more > > literate than > > the guys on the Ranchero message board. Anybody know what a Gold Wing > > engine weighs? > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 12:16:13 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:16:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> <020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> Message-ID: <205cef430902191116p76bf2397rc480dbcb4d13803a@mail.gmail.com> Leo, The are so ugly I couldn't even look ...... On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > GAG!!!!! Throwing up as I write. What is up with those god awful seats and > the cutout for the drivers seat??? Did the car get done by the show "pimp > my ride"?? > > Leo > > > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 > 12:00 > AM From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 19 12:23:33 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:23:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye In-Reply-To: <205cef430902191113s4bdd74ddn18cd6ea1a224dca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't think you could fit a top or tonneau with that cutout. That engine swap might be interesting if done well. At least it doesn't weigh enough to destroy handling, but the pimped-out look is gross. What is it about hillbillies and Sprites? They always want to stick something really bizarre under the bonnet. From george.brokaw at cox.net Thu Feb 19 12:25:20 2009 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:25:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye In-Reply-To: <205cef430902191113s4bdd74ddn18cd6ea1a224dca@mail.gmail.com> References: <8686825961313478031@unknownmsgid> <205cef430902191113s4bdd74ddn18cd6ea1a224dca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <008001c992c7$cdc22610$69467230$@brokaw@cox.net> The ONLY thing I am interest in on this car is the engine... For the rest of the "work" on the car, my mind comes up with the phrase "MY EYES! MY EYES!" as I cover them. ;^) George From: Linda Grunthaner [mailto:grunthaner at gmail.com] He said it is the stock rear and glass over metal body work.........ugh. What is the opinion regarding the mechanics? And the color is metalic blue 2000 Beetle : ) Lin On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM, George Brokaw wrote: IAW the 1994 Service Manual (Engine Removal) the dry weight is 275 lbs. 1100 Goldwing is a 4 cylinder engine (@ 238 lbs) while the 88- are 6 cylinder engines. And yes, that includes the transmission since it is a part of the engine. You have to split the engine cases to get at the transmission. So if my brain is working correctly (it isn't... had surgery yesterday and still recovering from it) the Goldwing 1500 engine has more horsepower and torque than the 1275/1500 engines in Spridgets (stock) and weighs less (engine and transmission together). It is WIDE though (30.1") and that makes it interesting to fit between the fenders without cutting (a very quick measurement of my tub showed ~ 29.x" between the front of the fenders.) Another interesting thing is that the transmission is under the engine so hardly anything from the engine/transmission would be in the tunnel! Just the driveshaft from what I determine. Another thought, this engine/transmission moves a bike of ~ 800 lbs with two riders, figure ~ another 350 lbs for a total of 1150 lbs and I have seen them built as a trike pulling a trailer! That cannot be much less (if not more) than a Spridget weight. George -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Proefrock The GL1100 service manual lists the engine weight as 238 pounds. I'm not a motorcycle guy, I don't know if that figure includes the gearbox?? On Feb 19, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > An he redone it from the ground up. He's only slightly more > literate than > the guys on the Ranchero message board. Anybody know what a Gold Wing > engine weighs? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 19 12:24:32 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:24:32 EST Subject: [Spridgets] numbers on the doors of our Spridgets question..... Message-ID: Less than they were now the pound has fallen against the dollar. In a message dated 19/02/2009 11:07:22 GMT Standard Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: what are those certificates going for now a days? Lin From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 19 12:27:57 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:27:57 EST Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engin... Message-ID: Why does he think a 100bhp (assumedly at the flywheel) is too fast for drum brakes? Hate the seats most of all. In a message dated 19/02/2009 13:36:03 GMT Standard Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: >> 170304048592 >> Lin From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 19 12:29:18 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:29:18 EST Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engin... Message-ID: But less interesting than a tuned 1275. In a message dated 19/02/2009 15:12:43 GMT Standard Time, george.brokaw at cox.net writes: 100 HP and 110 ft.lbs of torque. Interesting engine for a Spridget... From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 19 12:31:54 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:31:54 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust headers Message-ID: A depends how well you like parts to fit I guess. Oh, and quality always costs. In a message dated 19/02/2009 17:41:11 GMT Standard Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: Cheap ($150) LCB exhaust headers use a 3-into-1 design. The more expensive ones ($250) use a 2-into-1 plus 2-into-1 design. Any thoughts on whether or not the latter is worth $100 more for a fast street car? From breton48 at live.com Thu Feb 19 12:43:41 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:43:41 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi.... My old racing Bugeye is on eBay - Item number: 150327045302 Location: Pasadena, CA. Just thought some of you may be interested. I think the guy selling it is the second owner after me. Looks like when I sold it some three to four years ago, minus the half-height windshield and/or the racing Lexan wrap around windshield. I had a period correct racing door mirror on the driver side (forgot the name, difficult item to find now) which also seems to have disappeared. Ad mentions "recent restoration" - that was in 1997-1999 by the owner before me, unless the present owner did soething new - could not see anything on the pics though. One thing the ad does not mention, is that just before selling the car, I had a new aluminum flywheel fitted. Don't know if all the spare parts are still there and included in the sale (anything from extra set of alloy wheels to brake pedals, spare block, etc). JLC, who has been lurking on this site for quite a while. From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 14:23:46 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:23:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine ......whoa In-Reply-To: <44FEE46595E94FDF969E9856710F2FB0@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> <020001c9929e$777a6d90$666f48b0$@net> <44FEE46595E94FDF969E9856710F2FB0@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:03 AM, David Lieb wrote: Yes, I know that some Goldwings do have reverse, but the shifter looks like ribcase material. The Goldwings use a small electric motor to make them go backwards... I don't know if it is a frction drive on the rear tire or what but I have seen them and heard them when the backed up... -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From shop at justbrits.com Thu Feb 19 14:29:06 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:29:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engin... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Geesh that thing is fug UGLY !!!! Just wrote him a note and will update youse when it is (if??) replied to. Some of you might be interested, but I do sorta recog the seats AND his 'feedback' mentions them. IIRC, he made some '62-'63-'64 Chevy 409 Owners' as aghast as we are!! I would be more than willing to be there are a LOT more Frogeyes around in the world than those SS 409s and by a WIDE ratio!! From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 14:39:05 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:39:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bonnet Alignment tips? In-Reply-To: <20090210.142229.8267.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> References: <20090210.142229.8267.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Mark Haynes wrote: Any other ideas/experiences that might explain why it sits so far forward? Could the hinge bolts themselves be bent or worn this badly? The hinges (elbow shaped mounting brackets) are prone to cracking. They flex at the bottom of the "U" shape and eventually break there. Prior to breaking, they probably stretch out the "U" shape causing the bonnet to be further out on the cowl and front moorings. -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Feb 19 17:05:31 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:05:31 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust headers Message-ID: I think the question was "is it more expensive due to higher quality, or because it's more expensive are we ASUMING that it is higher quality?" Drew PHD in Semantics -----Original Message----- From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com To: "mdrowe at optonline.net" ; "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: 2/19/09 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Exhaust headers A depends how well you like parts to fit I guess. Oh, and quality always costs. In a message dated 19/02/2009 17:41:11 GMT Standard Time, mdrowe at optonline.net writes: Cheap ($150) LCB exhaust headers use a 3-into-1 design. The more expensive ones ($250) use a 2-into-1 plus 2-into-1 design. Any thoughts on whether or not the latter is worth $100 more for a fast street car? You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pythias at pacifier.com Thu Feb 19 17:32:19 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:32:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] bolt size? nut size? Message-ID: <1595253301.20090219163219@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, The trip piece on the cockpit surround of MK III Sprite is held on by captive bolts (held from turning in the trim but not from sliding to another hole.) I got a wind blocker for Christmas. they supply a couple of little brackets that are to be fed onto those bolts. I don't have enough of them with nuts and need to acquire more, with the nuts, and install 'em... soo What's the thread pitch? the nuts are 5/16 wrench size. anybody have a handful?... two? -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "I think not," said Descartes, and promptly disappeared. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Feb 19 17:59:45 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:59:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <682359.8411.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, JLC wrote: > Hi.... My old racing Bugeye is on eBay - Item number: > 150327045302 > Location: Pasadena, CA. Just thought some of you may be > interested. I think JLC, Beautiful, beautiful car. If only my 201K were still a 401K.... Good to see you back - Ron From breton48 at live.com Thu Feb 19 18:48:35 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:48:35 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: <682359.8411.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <682359.8411.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Thanks Ron... I also have a 201K now, and as I foolishly retired a few months before the crash, that hurts! I am not going to race again, otherwise I might try to buy my old car back! I know the whole history of that car, right from new. When I sold the car, I gave the buyer a very comprehensive documentation about the car racing history (SCCA and VARA), names and details of the previous three owners, the British Heritage certificate, invoices/bills for most if not all race parts fitted since 1997, original owner manual, etc. Don't know if that and all the spare parts I had are still with that car though. It was fun to race, but in VARA my 948 cc Bugeye was in the same group as Bugeyes with 1100 cc and even 1275 cc engines. My Bugeye was as good as any and better than most in turns, but the bigger engined Bugeyes were leaving me in the dust on the straights! If my memory serves me right, at Buttonwillow in So Cal, I could just touch 100 mph down a long straight with the right tuning, 3.9 welded axle, Turbo Blue 108 octane racing gas, and the tach needle way past what a street Bugeye would ever see! I had three axles (all welded) for that car. One was 3.9, one 4.22, and I forgot the ratio for the last axle. I found the car quite easy to race with the welded axles, provided you remembered not to lift in a turn. Only trouble with the welded axles was pushing the car around in the pits! Last time I raced the car was November 10/11, 2001, at Las Vegas. I do not know if the two (or three?) subsequent owners ever raced the car. JLC -----Original Message----- From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:00 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net; JLC Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay --- On Thu, 2/19/09, JLC wrote: > Hi.... My old racing Bugeye is on eBay - Item number: > 150327045302 > Location: Pasadena, CA. Just thought some of you may be > interested. I think JLC, Beautiful, beautiful car. If only my 201K were still a 401K.... Good to see you back - Ron From shop at justbrits.com Thu Feb 19 19:25:36 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:25:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: <682359.8411.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> Heck 'Hopper, me & wife's are 101s!!! And JLC, ya oughta 'witness' Ron DRIVE !! Can't say more than that on a 'public forum' as it WOULD/WILL go to his .................. (never mind) Ed From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 19:34:01 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:34:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] bolt size? nut size? In-Reply-To: <1595253301.20090219163219@pacifier.com> References: <1595253301.20090219163219@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <499E1699.60501@comcast.net> Bill L wrote: > > What's the thread pitch? the nuts are 5/16 wrench size. > > anybody have a handful?... two? > 10/32 -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 19 21:10:27 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:10:27 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Human Rotisserie Message-ID: <499E2D33.6000207@comcast.net> As Michael Rowe calls it. I have been flipping my current project up on it's side to weld a new back half to replace the smashed back of a Bugeye. I also replaced the trunk floor and did some patching on the main floor. So I have always just lifted these cars up and let them sit on the rocker right on the concrete garage floor and never had any damage. So tonight when I went from one side to the other, I noticed that I don't even have to support it when it's on edge. I have the rear axle out but the front wheels are still on the car. The car sits on the edge of the rocker and the front wheel stabilizes it. You can rock and roll the car and it's pretty stable. A safety rope from the garage door track is good insurance in case a little kid wanders in and pushes real hard. 2 guys can flip the car with little effort. I am convinced you can do this to a fresh painted car if you put a blanket down on the floor first. Only the rocker panel touches the floor, not the rear quarter panel or any of the side body. Square bodys with fenders on it might need to be checked out but it looks like this will work on them the same way, there is plenty of clearance. This car is for my daughter, I just started it and I needed 2 cars just to make one. And she wants to use it by May. Well most of the welding is finished, now for the body work and paint. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 19 21:31:07 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:31:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NMC - Just struck me as funny References: Message-ID: <90728.2900.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/7899171.stm From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 22:25:58 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:25:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Completely original 1968 Sprite.... Message-ID: <43840a7e0902192125qd9c498dgd6bce72536a24ef6@mail.gmail.com> Ebay Motors.... 230326034859 NFI.... -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 04:28:40 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:28:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Human Rotisserie In-Reply-To: <499E2D33.6000207@comcast.net> References: <499E2D33.6000207@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430902200328y279847cuf9e495f8cb41be0f@mail.gmail.com> Cool info Frank, You're going to put our rotisserie money back into our cars .....cool..... : ) So all the welding is done great to hear, she sure was a ruff little car. Did you spot weld that trunk section in and use that stuff in the gaps to prevent rust? I was pricing body metal between Moss and Victoria British and I see they don't have everything and a bit pricy too, near $200. just for that little section of floor and they are out of their minds at $1,400.00 for a rear fender at Victoria British....ugh I now see why you are fabricationg body parts. I wonder if the square arch lip on the MKII & up will be OK with this method of sitting on the rocker? Lin On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > As Michael Rowe calls it. > I have been flipping my current project up on it's side to weld a new back > half to replace the smashed back of a Bugeye. > I also replaced the trunk floor and did some patching on the main floor. > So I have always just lifted these cars up and let them sit on the rocker > right on the concrete garage floor and never had any damage. > So tonight when I went from one side to the other, I noticed that I don't > even have to support it when it's on edge. > I have the rear axle out but the front wheels are still on the car. > The car sits on the edge of the rocker and the front wheel stabilizes it. > You can rock and roll the car and it's pretty stable. > A safety rope from the garage door track is good insurance in case a little > kid wanders in and pushes real hard. > 2 guys can flip the car with little effort. > I am convinced you can do this to a fresh painted car if you put a blanket > down on the floor first. > Only the rocker panel touches the floor, not the rear quarter panel or any > of the side body. > Square bodys with fenders on it might need to be checked out but it looks > like this will work on them the same way, there is plenty of clearance. > This car is for my daughter, I just started it and I needed 2 cars just to > make one. And she wants to use it by May. > Well most of the welding is finished, now for the body work and paint. > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 04:30:05 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:30:05 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engine In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430902190345q2ba67340n52a3489b76cd65a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902200330i4123241ds91c71ad0236f518e@mail.gmail.com> I just took another look and when I saw the read deck cut like that I nearly puked. Lin On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Jim Proefrock wrote: > I'm no purist, yet this car offends me. Maybe I'm more of a purist than I > thought. > > On Feb 19, 2009, at 5:45 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > 170304048592 >> Lin >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as proefrock at comcast.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 04:34:15 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:34:15 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] EBay Bugeye with 1995 GOLD WING 1500CC HONDA MOTORCYCLE Engin... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430902200334l2ac03547td7260e1f41732146@mail.gmail.com> He butchered that poor little car he should pay someone to take it. What a shame, the worst part is the rear deck, looks like a nasty facial scar you have to turn your head away from ..................... but you keep looking. Lin On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:27 PM, wrote: > Why does he think a 100bhp (assumedly at the flywheel) is too fast for drum > brakes? > > Hate the seats most of all. > > In a message dated 19/02/2009 13:36:03 GMT Standard Time, > grunthaner at gmail.com writes: > > >> 170304048592 > >> Lin > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 04:37:12 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:37:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Completely original 1968 Sprite.... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902192125qd9c498dgd6bce72536a24ef6@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0902192125qd9c498dgd6bce72536a24ef6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902200337g1090711axde8c7099100a950f@mail.gmail.com> She is cute : ) Lin On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Ebay Motors.... > > 230326034859 > > NFI.... > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough > to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 04:39:06 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:39:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] eBay 280315091917 Bugeye anyone we know? Message-ID: <205cef430902200339l5dfdf7e0u2f0b91ce4b1435ea@mail.gmail.com> List, eBay 280315091917 Bugeye anyone we know? Lin From vern at srvinet.com Fri Feb 20 06:58:09 2009 From: vern at srvinet.com (Vern) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:58:09 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 rear Oil seal Message-ID: <499EB6F1.2000509@srvinet.com> I sent this yesterday and I never showed up as usual so am trying again Hope it does bother anyone if it shows twice. I am ready to build up my metro 1500 engine and am not sure about the rear seal or dust excluder or whatever it is. I looked for three hours on the net and all my books and found really nothing. I can see that there is an oil thrower and drain tube behind the the rear bearing. I found two strips of cork like material in the gasket kit that look llike they might go behlind that, but there isn't really a good recess for them to go in. Any advice? Vern From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Feb 20 08:26:10 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:26:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Human Rotisserie In-Reply-To: <499E2D33.6000207@comcast.net> References: <499E2D33.6000207@comcast.net> Message-ID: >As Michael Rowe calls it. It does sound like barbequed human, doesn't it? Polynesians called that "long pig," as people taste like pork. Whatever you call it, the savings in time and money are remarkable. Michael Rowe From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Feb 20 08:40:01 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:40:01 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Human Rotisserie In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dare I ask how you know humans taste like pork? ( I've been called a pig before, but I think it was in reference to lack of taste? :) ) ----Original Message Follows---- From: Michael Rowe >As Michael Rowe calls it. It does sound like barbequed human, doesn't it? Polynesians called that "long pig," as people taste like pork. Whatever you call it, the savings in time and money are remarkable. Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Feb 20 08:55:40 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:55:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds Message-ID: <007666BDEDB84847A707CD443C8A7353@Home> Note that Moss sells for $420 what appears to be the same 3-2-1 LCB exhaust manifold that APT sells for $280. That says a lot about the price:quality issue. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From derf247 at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 09:06:52 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:06:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds In-Reply-To: <007666BDEDB84847A707CD443C8A7353@Home> References: <007666BDEDB84847A707CD443C8A7353@Home> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902200806s4e2973a9v53fbe512ec95d760@mail.gmail.com> Moss probably buys them from APT and applies their usual markup. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Note that Moss sells for $420 what appears to be the same 3-2-1 LCB exhaust manifold that APT sells for $280. That says a lot about the price:quality issue. From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Feb 20 09:19:39 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:19:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Human Rotisserie In-Reply-To: <499E2D33.6000207@comcast.net> References: <499E2D33.6000207@comcast.net> Message-ID: > I am convinced you can do this to a fresh painted car if you put a blanket > down on the floor first. I routinely see 3-4' wide rolls of carpet from remodeling jobs put out with the garbage. One or two layers of carpet would provide a really good protective base, still firm enough to keep it stable. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 09:24:37 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:24:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Completely original 1968 Sprite.... In-Reply-To: <205cef430902200337g1090711axde8c7099100a950f@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0902192125qd9c498dgd6bce72536a24ef6@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430902200337g1090711axde8c7099100a950f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902200824r4e4a307dte7754fea8281a695@mail.gmail.com> Lin, I looked under the rear end. It's a *he*... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 5:37 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > She is cute : ) > Lin > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:25 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > >> Ebay Motors.... >> >> 230326034859 >> >> NFI.... >> -- >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough >> to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Feb 20 09:32:18 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:32:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] rear axle option Message-ID: <1c28701c99378$cc1274d0$056a010a@mail2world.com> Check out this bgeye with a narrowed Vega rear: http://www.modifiedhealeys.org/Photos/157Hammond/157Hammond.htm Gear sets from it are on craigslists if any of you are getting any ideas! :) http://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/1034270813.html Remember, Vegas were 4x4" bolt circle... -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Feb 20 09:37:44 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 08:37:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 rear Oil seal Message-ID: <1c5af01c99379$8e3ba810$056a010a@mail2world.com> Noticed you copied the Nash forums. Is this for a BMC B-series 1500cc, or a Triumph 1500cc? Two totally different beasts. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> From: Vern [vern at srvinet.com] Sent: 2/20/2009 8:59:09 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net;metchat at magnum.autoclubs.ca Subject: [Spridgets] 1500 rear Oil seal I sent this yesterday and I never showed up as usual so am trying again Hope it does bother anyone if it shows twice. I am ready to build up my metro 1500 engine and am not sure about the rear seal or dust excluder or whatever it is. I looked for three hours on the net and all my books and found really nothing. I can see that there is an oil thrower and drain tube behind the the rear bearing. I found two strips of cork like material in the gasket kit that look llike they might go behlind that, but there isn't really a good recess for them to go in. Any advice? Vern _______________________________________________ From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Feb 20 10:07:09 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:07:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... Message-ID: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> Another way to tax Joe/Jane Public http://tinyurl.com/ckhdrj -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From george.brokaw at cox.net Fri Feb 20 10:08:12 2009 From: george.brokaw at cox.net (George Brokaw) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:08:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Human Rotisserie In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00a001c9937d$d0745610$715d0230$@brokaw@cox.net> I heard humans taste like chicken... -----Original Message----- Dare I ask how you know humans taste like pork? ( I've been called a pig before, but I think it was in reference to lack of taste? :) ) ----Original Message Follows---- From: Michael Rowe >As Michael Rowe calls it. It does sound like barbequed human, doesn't it? Polynesians called that "long pig," as people taste like pork. Whatever you call it, the savings in time and money are remarkable. Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Feb 20 10:10:16 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:10:16 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] rear axle option In-Reply-To: <1c28701c99378$cc1274d0$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: Is this Ruin a Sprite week? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 10:20:58 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:20:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Human Rotisserie In-Reply-To: References: <499E2D33.6000207@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902200920w7e10e52xd147e19974190039@mail.gmail.com> Michael, I've been using old carpet on my garage floor for many years. Much easier on the back, knees, elbows...etc. and when it gets too funky you pitch it out and replace with more free used carpet! Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I am convinced you can do this to a fresh painted car if you put a blanket >> down on the floor first. >> > > I routinely see 3-4' wide rolls of carpet from remodeling jobs put out with > the garbage. One or two layers of carpet would provide a really good > protective base, still firm enough to keep it stable. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 10:24:33 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:24:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... In-Reply-To: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902200924l4d624192me10e9662a55becda@mail.gmail.com> Won't work. How they gonna keep track of it in a way that ingenious home mechanics can't beat? Even if they tried to do it with computer chips they'd be hacked within an hour or two! Fuel tax is the only thing that makes sense and the vehicle owner can't cheat on. Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Dave G. wrote: > Another way to tax Joe/Jane Public > > http://tinyurl.com/ckhdrj > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Feb 20 10:41:31 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:41:31 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds Message-ID: Maniflow In a message dated 20/02/2009 16:07:07 GMT Standard Time, derf247 at gmail.com writes: Moss probably buys them from APT and applies their usual markup. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Feb 20 10:44:59 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:44:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... References: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> <43840a7e0902200924l4d624192me10e9662a55becda@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Won't work. How they gonna keep track of it in a way that ingenious home > mechanics can't beat? Even if they tried to do it with computer chips > they'd be hacked within an hour or two! Fuel tax is the only thing that > makes sense and the vehicle owner can't cheat on. I love the way they feel that they can't change the fuel tax structure because of the economy, but they can make people install GPS chips in all their vehicles and launch a new tax. Do they think we are all of the same intelligence level as Roland Burris??? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 10:51:27 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:51:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0902200951p5f6493d3h22271ff081a8b523@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:41 AM, wrote: > Maniflow Oh! Yes! I loved "Mandy" and "I Can't Smile Without You"!! -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 10:53:48 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:53:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... In-Reply-To: References: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> <43840a7e0902200924l4d624192me10e9662a55becda@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902200953w321beb71u260c7f2fdd773a8a@mail.gmail.com> Hmmmm.... I was just peeling a potato and realized I held in my very hand an intellect superior to Sen. Burris..... Cheers!! Jim - the centerist wacko On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:44 AM, David Lieb wrote: > Won't work. How they gonna keep track of it in a way that ingenious home >> mechanics can't beat? Even if they tried to do it with computer chips >> they'd be hacked within an hour or two! Fuel tax is the only thing that >> makes sense and the vehicle owner can't cheat on. >> > > I love the way they feel that they can't change the fuel tax structure > because of the economy, but they can make people install GPS chips in all > their vehicles and launch a new tax. Do they think we are all of the same > intelligence level as Roland Burris??? > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Feb 20 10:55:22 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:55:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 19,000 mile original Bugeye for sale Message-ID: <013001c99384$689b1590$39d140b0$@com> Subject: 19,000 mile original Bugeye for sale For sale: 1958 Austin Healey Sprite (titled as a 1959) 19,000 original mile car, unrestored, in time capsule condition. A true "survivor car". certainly one of the finest examples of an unrestored Bugeye in the world. "Survivor cars" are rapidly growing in value, and the rarity of this car's condition attests to its "investment quality". This car won the Road & Track Reserve Award at the 2006 Brian Redman International Challenge Concours in Elkhart Lake, WI. This car was also featured in the January issue of Road & Track, in Peter Egan's "Side Glances" column. Details on its documented history, condition and pictures at http://www.thicko.com/Walter.htm Car runs like a Swiss watch. Comes complete with original soft top and side curtains (with bag). Currently sits on Michelin X tires it last raced on in the early 60's. It is very drivable, or showable as it sits. $22,000 or best offer. Wm. Severin Thompson Team Thicko wsthompson at thicko.com From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri Feb 20 10:55:46 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:55:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... References: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: Is it just me or is it time to "JUST SAY NO?" We need an old guys militia.....made up of folks that actually remember when the people ran the government. Tax and Track...I don't think I will play nice. Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave G. To: spridgets Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:07 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... Another way to tax Joe/Jane Public http://tinyurl.com/ckhdrj -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA From kgb at frontiernet.net Fri Feb 20 11:08:00 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:08:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... In-Reply-To: References: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <499EF180.9000604@frontiernet.net> I will gladly volunteer for this organization. Kate Mark wrote: > Is it just me or is it time to "JUST SAY NO?" We need an old guys > militia.....made up of folks that actually remember when the people > ran the government. Tax and Track...I don't think I will play nice. > > Mark > Nashville From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 11:09:00 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:09:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rear axle option In-Reply-To: References: <1c28701c99378$cc1274d0$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <8c1781040902201009h7921a015t7d56d5a62b5006cf@mail.gmail.com> Keep your garage locked! On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > Is this Ruin a Sprite week? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as trevor.jessie at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 11:18:24 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:18:24 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Getting up there.... Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902201018r6447ae99k36280b9ccce54480@mail.gmail.com> Happy Birthday Billy Z. May your 'notes' be true.... Herb From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 20 11:21:15 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:21:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology In-Reply-To: <013c01c9937b$13d02b80$3b708280$@net> Message-ID: THANKS to John Sims on the Healeys List!!!!! ***************************************** This is absolutely astonishing! The first part is a short commercial but watch the whole clip. You will be amazed - especially restorers who can not find a good part from the usual suspects. http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=944641 Thanks to Don Hambrick for forwarding it to me. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ ************************************************ From hardy.john at cox.net Fri Feb 20 11:39:55 2009 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:39:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Battery question In-Reply-To: <020c01c992a3$596a6800$0c3f3800$@net> Message-ID: <20090220133955.A0E1C.64156.imail@fed1rmwml45> Leo, Great question, I have seen lots of pictures of unrestored cars, but never one with a original battery fitted. That being said, based on the short length of the positive ground cable (correct braided one). I believe the posts to the rear is correct. I will send a e-mail to Mecam Sprites in the UK and see what their input is. Cheers, John ---- Leo <60bugeye at cebridge.net> wrote: > Quick question but one based on originality. On the original "Lucas" tar > top batteries were the posts to the front of the filler caps or to the rear > of the filler caps? We are speaking as in looking from the front of the > car towards the firewall. > > Thanks > Leo > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.23 - Release Date: 2/11/2009 12:00 > AM > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hardy.john at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From wsthompson at thicko.com Fri Feb 20 11:54:44 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:54:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Thicko] 19,000 mile original Bugeye for sale In-Reply-To: <013001c99384$689b1590$39d140b0$@com> References: <013001c99384$689b1590$39d140b0$@com> Message-ID: <015901c9938c$b3d958c0$1b8c0a40$@com> The Peter Egan article can be seen here. http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=26&article_id=7246 > -----Original Message----- > From: team-thicko-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:team-thicko- > bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:55 AM > To: 'Healey list Forum'; Vintage-Race at Autox.Team.Net; 'MG List'; > spridgets at autox.team.net; Team-Thicko at Autox.Team.Net > Subject: [Thicko] 19,000 mile original Bugeye for sale > > Subject: 19,000 mile original Bugeye for sale > > > > For sale: 1958 Austin Healey Sprite (titled as a 1959) > > > > 19,000 original mile car, unrestored, in time capsule condition. A true > "survivor car". certainly one of the finest examples of an unrestored > Bugeye > in the world. > > > > "Survivor cars" are rapidly growing in value, and the rarity of this > car's > condition attests to its "investment quality". > > > > This car won the Road & Track Reserve Award at the 2006 Brian Redman > International Challenge Concours in Elkhart Lake, WI. > > > > This car was also featured in the January issue of Road & Track, in > Peter > Egan's "Side Glances" column. > > > > Details on its documented history, condition and pictures at > http://www.thicko.com/Walter.htm > > > > Car runs like a Swiss watch. Comes complete with original soft top and > side > curtains (with bag). Currently sits on Michelin X tires it last raced > on in > the early 60's. > > > > It is very drivable, or showable as it sits. > > > > $22,000 or best offer. > > > > Wm. Severin Thompson > > Team Thicko > > wsthompson at thicko.com From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 20 12:03:32 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:03:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Getting up there.... In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10902201018r6447ae99k36280b9ccce54480@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <> DITTO, Billy !!!!! From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 12:52:51 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:52:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902200951p5f6493d3h22271ff081a8b523@mail.gmail.com> References: <43840a7e0902200951p5f6493d3h22271ff081a8b523@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0902201152u3232d819ga3d70a8cd1121f1e@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Oh! Yes! I "loved" Mandy and I Can't Smile Without You!! Jim, Stay away from my sister and you're pretty swell too!! ED? From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 20 13:38:18 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:38:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <499F14BA.7080601@comcast.net> Ed's Shop wrote: > > http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=944641 > > > Wow, even Jay Leno is not a fan of cheap chinese crap. So as soon as the price comes down a bit, I have got to get me one of these! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Feb 20 13:56:03 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:56:03 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... Message-ID: "Do they think we are of the same intelligence level as Roland Burris?" Are you kidding? I not so sure we're smarter than Burris as a group, Dave Lieb!! Take look around us in terms of the seriousness of the problems our nation has today. Compare to 40 years ago in terms of same and the general quality of life for the working majority as in Mr. and Mrs. Middle America, whose numbers are declining these days, even as we speaketh! Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Feb 20 14:01:45 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:01:45 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... Message-ID: "another way to tax Joe/Jane public" Stupid is as stupid does. Once again, the working man who must commute in order to work at a decent job, must take it up the wazoo....having no real choice in the matter. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Feb 20 14:05:32 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:05:32 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] rear axle option Message-ID: Ah yes....John Hammondale's modifed BE. He used to be on this list. Damn good prices assuming decent quality considering what VB and others want for stock R&P's of any ratio. Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Fri Feb 20 15:11:27 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:11:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Combo Gauge Rebuild Message-ID: Any of you guys used Mo-Ma recently to restore your gauges? I can't find a web site for them. I need my oil press/water temp gauge rebuilt because the oil pressure has always read too low (5-20 instead of 20-60) and I got a leak in the capillary tube when I swapped engines recently. I soldered it before all the ether leaked out, but it also reads very low now. (not enough ether left). Any other suggestions for gauge repair places? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Feb 20 15:17:01 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:17:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Driveway! Message-ID: If you go to Google Maps and look at the satellite view of 2666 W Lake Hamilton Drive, Winter Haven, FL You will see the nicest driveway I have seen in a long time. At full zoom, you can see the rumble strips on the inside of the curves as well as signs of donuts in the grass... David Lieb From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Feb 20 15:30:08 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:30:08 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust headers Message-ID: And may I be so bold as to add, "tailor" the bore of that LCB to the "tune" of the motor. Here again, Vizard's book gives the best advice in this respect whether you're looking for more low end "grunt" rather than hi rpm HP. In my PO'd 1340 Spridget with APT VP3 cam, hi-rpm "mass flow" was the consideraton as everything happened above 3k considering I was commuting to NY airports from my home in Stamford, CT. using the stock ribcase and 3.9 (later, a 3.7) diff. Thus, the big bore LCB, CHT-11. Today, we run a 1293 Cooper S application tuned for low-mid range torque as in fotown/urban acceleration....thus, the Med Bore LCB. Bigger is not always better! :):) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 20 15:34:32 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:34:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology In-Reply-To: <499F14BA.7080601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <> Ain't 'bad' now, Frank !! >From another List I'm on: FYI, th scanner is ~3,000 usd. The printer they show is ~30,000 usd. They also offer a "personal" desktop version of the printer for ~14,000. For LESS than a new pick-up..........! From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 20 15:36:21 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:36:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Combo Gauge Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <499F3065.10605@comcast.net> rrengineer @dslextreme.com wrote: > Any other suggestions for gauge repair places? > Nisonger.com -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Feb 20 15:39:16 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:39:16 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Human Rotisserie Message-ID: I know it's perhaps in poor taste but I've heard that fireman don't like to eat bacon as the smell of burnt people in a fire smells like bacon. So, I'd go with pork rather than chicken on that basis. In a message dated 20/02/2009 17:08:38 GMT Standard Time, george.brokaw at cox.net writes: I heard humans taste like chicken... -----Original Message----- Dare I ask how you know humans taste like pork? From abcoz at hky.com Fri Feb 20 15:40:18 2009 From: abcoz at hky.com (Bud Osbourne) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:40:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... In-Reply-To: References: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <452B146A78B5448E97F8FD07E45852F4@OwnerPC> Please sign me up, Mark! Bud Osbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: "spridgets" Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... > Is it just me or is it time to "JUST SAY NO?" We need an old guys > militia.....made up of folks that actually remember when the people ran > the government. Tax and Track...I don't think I will play nice. > > Mark > Nashville From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Feb 20 15:41:18 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:41:18 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Combo Gauge Rebuild Message-ID: www.Nisonger.com Yeah, I was thinkin' the same thing....nothin' out there closer to the West Coast??? Who does Paul A. or Peter C. use I wonder?? Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From cclabaw at juno.com Fri Feb 20 15:49:13 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:49:13 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology Message-ID: <20090220.144913.28340.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> Listers - A lot of large cities (well, at least L. A.) have shops with this equipment. If you google 'instant prototyping' they'll show up. I use these services a lot at JPL and they're not too expensive. Clay L. '67 Sprite -- "Ed's Shop" wrote: THANKS to John Sims on the Healeys List!!!!! ***************************************** This is absolutely astonishing! The first part is a short commercial but watch the whole clip. You will be amazed - especially restorers who can not find a good part from the usual suspects. http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=944641 Thanks to Don Hambrick for forwarding it to me. John Sims, BN6 Aberdeen, NJ ************************************************ You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Find senior dating options and more online. Check it out now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTQbQaa0No34O4nTnIxedXi7Q6LB LQcbydLRgLxmiXxNwqQAhMZHaU/ From wbmcleod at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 15:54:52 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (William McLeod) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:54:52 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Combo Gauge Rebuild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2D165BB8-2766-4431-9579-8E4F2721DCC8@gmail.com> MoMa Manufacturing 1321 Second St. NW Albuquerque, NM 87102 505-766-6661 MoManm at aol.com From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Feb 20 15:58:33 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:58:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology Message-ID: <2aa7f01c993ae$c126fc40$116a010a@mail2world.com> I played with a machine like this at my last employer, but a bigger version. At the time it was purchased (2004), it cost in the neighborhood of $250,000. Prices for the small ones have come down a lot. The one thing they didn't show you is the wash tank for the soluble support removal. Generally, it takes a warm water mixed with a special cleaning powder. 3 hours in the tank and it's done. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Ed's Shop [shop at justbrits.com] >Sent: 2/20/2009 5:35:32 PM >To: spritenut at comcast.net >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net;bugeye at yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology > ><I have got to get me one of these!>> > >Ain't 'bad' now, Frank !! > >>From another List I'm on: > > >FYI, th scanner is ~3,000 usd. The printer they >show is ~30,000 usd. >They also offer a "personal" desktop version of >the printer for ~14,000. > > >For LESS than a new pick-up..........! >. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Feb 20 16:01:46 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:01:46 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology Message-ID: <2adab01c993af$34ba6340$116a010a@mail2world.com> There are a bunch in Jersey as well - also look under "rapid prototyping". There are a couple of different types of machines, and some do flexible materials. I can't say how durable the rubber prototypes are, but it can be a good tool to test for fit before getting something like an extrusion die made. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: cclabaw at juno.com [cclabaw at juno.com] >Sent: 2/20/2009 5:50:13 PM >To: shop at justbrits.com >Cc: >spridgets at autox.team.net;midgetsprite at yahoogroups.com;mgs at autox.team.ne t;bugeye at yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology > >Listers - > >A lot of large cities (well, at least L. A.) have shops with this equipment. >If you google 'instant prototyping' they'll show up. I use these services a >lot at JPL and they're not too expensive. > >Clay L. >'67 Sprite > > > >-- "Ed's Shop" wrote: >THANKS to John Sims on the Healeys List!!!!! >***************************************** >This is absolutely astonishing! >The first part is a short commercial but >watch the whole clip. You will be amazed - >especially restorers who can not >find a good part from the usual suspects. > >http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=944641 > >Thanks to Don Hambrick for forwarding it to me. >John Sims, BN6 >Aberdeen, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 16:02:58 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:02:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <195015.99147.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It doesn't exactly seem like an encouragement to carpool either.... --- On Fri, 2/20/09, David Lieb wrote: > From: David Lieb > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... > To: "Jim Johnson" , "Spridget List" > Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:44 AM > > Won't work. How they gonna keep track of it in a > way that ingenious home > > mechanics can't beat? Even if they tried to do it > with computer chips > > they'd be hacked within an hour or two! Fuel tax > is the only thing that > > makes sense and the vehicle owner can't cheat on. > > I love the way they feel that they can't change the > fuel tax structure because of the economy, but they can make > people install GPS chips in all their vehicles and launch a > new tax. Do they think we are all of the same intelligence > level as Roland Burris??? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Fri Feb 20 16:04:31 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:04:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] rear axle option Message-ID: <2b09f01c993af$96d2b140$116a010a@mail2world.com> True, but in this case you'd better have the rest of the 6.5" Vega rear to go with 'em! Not sure Chevy parts would fit a Spridget diff. ;) -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Robert E. Shlafer [pilotrob at webtv.net] >Sent: 2/20/2009 4:06:32 PM >To: cbking at alum.rpi.edu;spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rear axle option > >Ah yes....John Hammondale's modifed BE. >He used to be on this list. Damn good prices assuming decent quality considering >what VB and others want for stock R&P's of any ratio. > >Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) > > >. From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 16:12:13 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:12:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology In-Reply-To: <20090220.144913.28340.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <904592.11942.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 2/20/09, cclabaw at juno.com wrote: > A lot of large cities (well, at least L. A.) have shops > with this equipment. Small ones, too. Also "Rapid prototyping" and "SLA". Ron From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Feb 20 16:16:36 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:16:36 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] rear axle option Message-ID: Natch! :):) Just amazing the difference in prices though between Chevy R&P and stock Spridget R&P. Unreal. :( Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From pilotrob at webtv.net Fri Feb 20 16:23:29 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:23:29 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] TR-2 in Joisey Message-ID: What about it, Frank? Neat car!!! Lean right out there and "meet the road"!! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Feb 20 16:30:02 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:30:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] TR-2 in Joisey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tractor motor from the 1930's ...bill ========================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert E. Shlafer Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:23 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] TR-2 in Joisey What about it, Frank? Neat car!!! Lean right out there and "meet the road"!! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) _______________________________________________ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 18:12:01 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:12:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <937581.25198.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The 3D printers have been around for a while. I actually have a plastic adjustable wrench like the one Jay was showing that was "built" in a printer. Got it in a trade show from the people that make the printers. The scanners are also not new, but the fact that they are this small, fast, and inexpensive is VERY cool stuff. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From dwramsey at att.net Fri Feb 20 18:21:32 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:21:32 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Combo Gauge Rebuild In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090221012156.B6B4E187658@autox.team.net> They rebuilt the speedo in my car 5 times, built me a new cable twice and once the speedo actually lasted a couple of months. Now to be fair the 8k electrical tack they made me worked great and lasted until I sold the car. She is listed in the M**S book, no web site. Crash Any of you guys used Mo-Ma recently to restore your gauges? I can't find a web site for them. I need my oil press/water temp gauge rebuilt because the oil pressure has always read too low (5-20 instead of 20-60) and I got a leak in the capillary tube when I swapped engines recently. I soldered it before all the ether leaked out, but it also reads very low now. (not enough ether left). Any other suggestions for gauge repair places? Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 18:22:28 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:22:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Driveway! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <871710.41071.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> That is the coolest driveway I've ever seen. How did you find it? Were you looking at a friend's house or just cruising around Florida via satellite? --- On Fri, 2/20/09, David Lieb wrote: From: David Lieb Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Driveway! To: "Spridget List" Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 4:17 PM If you go to Google Maps and look at the satellite view of 2666 W Lake Hamilton Drive, Winter Haven, FL You will see the nicest driveway I have seen in a long time. At full zoom, you can see the rumble strips on the inside of the curves as well as signs of donuts in the grass... David Lieb You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 20:07:04 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:07:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show Message-ID: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The kids were off from school today so I took time off from my newly appointed rounds at work and we did our annual trek to the Chicago Auto Show. Despite the somber tone below, we still had a great day. Some observations: McCormick place was like a morgue relative to previous years. The sadness and uneasiness was palpable. I spoke at some length to several reps of various companies, including BMW and Honda, and it's universal. It's definitely not as simple as "the US companies have cars no one wants to buy"; No one wants to buy ANYONE'S cars. Hopefully the US companies can restructure so they can weather the future somehow. The busiest cars were the Cadillac CTS and the Honda Fit. People weren't lined up to sit in the $100,000 cars. I think the Fit represents reality for many, and the Caddy represents the bottom end of the fantasy curve. To say GM has nothing worth buying is really uninformed - there were some nice real world cars there. The CTS (especially the 560+HP version!) and the Corvette are just ridiculous in how nice they are. GM also had a Spanish speaking host or 2 as well as a few who were clearly placed to appeal to those buyers with "alternative lifestyles". I applaud their marketing vision to reach large, ignored market segments. Ford was similarly prepared, and their cars weren't horrible either. For the most part, companies left the SUVs at home. The retro attempts at the Charger and Camaro did nothing for me. VW put on a happier face than most. They had a "Car-aoke" setup where you sat in a Bug and sang along to the radio as you were posted on a large flat screen display. Several Britney Spears look alikes (and, sadly, soundalikes) give it their all. It was fun. Of the new marques, BMW makes the cars that appeal most to me. Still. I include the MINI in this, although their sales schtick is wearing thin. Anyway, I hope next year it is ridiculously crowded and the cars I want to look at are overrun with people gawking. I never ever though I would say this, but in some ways I miss limited displays of excess. My annual .02, Ron From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 20 20:28:12 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:28:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] TR-2 in Joisey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <499F74CC.80006@comcast.net> Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > What about it, Frank? Neat car!!! Lean right out there and "meet the road"!! :) > > I owned a TR2 way back when. I paid $10 for it. I got BEAT! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From millerls at ado13.com Fri Feb 20 21:02:53 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:02:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] MGB Tach Message-ID: Looking for a 7000 RPM tach for late "B" RVC 2432/00F Thanks. Larry From pythias at pacifier.com Fri Feb 20 21:37:00 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:37:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> Hello Ron, I went to the Portland (OR) Auto Show at the beginning of the month. Much is as you say, much more subdued than past years. Fewer displays, smaller displays, fewer attendees. The biggest crowds were around the Chevrolet stand. They had both the new Camaro and the 'Vette ZR1. Also as you say, its not just the domestic auto makers. If one looks at the stats, Mercedes sales off over 30%, Toyota off over 30%, Honda off nearly 30%, BMW, Saab, nearly every auto company in the developed world is suffering big time. Oddly enough, even the "economy" cars,--Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, Nissan Versa, Chevy Aveo, Kia Rio, right down the line ALL have electric windows!! Not only does that mean that they weigh more than they need to, with all the associated ills that brings, the windows will eventually quit working. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" The days of the digital watch are numbered From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 20 22:44:42 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:44:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Driveway! References: Message-ID: Pretty cool until you see that so many of the run-off areas are full of trees. To paraphrase Mario Andretti, you can't know how fast you can go until you come back carrying the steering wheel a couple of times. On this driveway/track you might come back with splinters in your ass, as well. LAD (AKA "The Spoilsport") ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:17 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Nice Driveway! If you go to Google Maps and look at the satellite view of 2666 W Lake Hamilton Drive, Winter Haven, FL You will see the nicest driveway I have seen in a long time. At full zoom, you can see the rumble strips on the inside of the curves as well as signs of donuts in the grass... David Lieb You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Fri Feb 20 23:20:00 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:20:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> Message-ID: I went to the Philadelphia Auto show two weeks ago. I did'nt really notice any difference in attendence compared to previous years. Nothing indicated to me that the American automakers were changing thier ways. I really like the styling of the new Challenger. Too bad I feel that Chrysler should go out of business. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" > Hello Ron, > > I went to the Portland (OR) Auto Show at the beginning of the month. Much > is as you say, much more subdued than past years. Fewer displays, smaller > displays, fewer attendees. > > The biggest crowds were around the Chevrolet stand. They had both the new > Camaro and the 'Vette ZR1. > > Also as you say, its not just the domestic auto makers. If one looks at the > stats, Mercedes sales off over 30%, Toyota off over 30%, Honda off nearly > 30%, BMW, Saab, nearly every auto company in the developed world is > suffering big time. > > Oddly enough, even the "economy" cars,--Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, Nissan > Versa, Chevy Aveo, Kia Rio, right down the line ALL have electric windows!! > Not only does that mean that they weigh more than they need to, with all > the associated ills that brings, the windows will eventually quit working. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 23:52:28 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:52:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902202252s270b92d7t5e177eda480ad272@mail.gmail.com> You're missing the point, guys. Of course all the car manufacturers are in trouble because they can't sell their cars. But its not because people don't want to buy their cars. Its because nobody can pay cash on the barrel head and the banks aren't lending!! The cars are just fine. The banks and the credit (or lack thereof) markets are the problem. Who's got 50% and their first born to put down? Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Ron, > > I went to the Portland (OR) Auto Show at the beginning of the month. > Much > is as you say, much more subdued than past years. Fewer displays, > smaller > displays, fewer attendees. > > The biggest crowds were around the Chevrolet stand. They had both the > new > Camaro and the 'Vette ZR1. > > Also as you say, its not just the domestic auto makers. If one looks at > the > stats, Mercedes sales off over 30%, Toyota off over 30%, Honda off > nearly > 30%, BMW, Saab, nearly every auto company in the developed world is > suffering big time. > > Oddly enough, even the "economy" cars,--Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, Nissan > Versa, Chevy Aveo, Kia Rio, right down the line ALL have electric > windows!! > Not only does that mean that they weigh more than they need to, with > all > the associated ills that brings, the windows will eventually quit > working. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > The days of the digital watch are numbered > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sat Feb 21 05:00:38 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:00:38 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds Message-ID: The question is almost a philosophical one: At what point does technology in absence of craftsmanship outweigh craftsmanship in absence of technology? I.e. Kia vs. Morgan. Or perhaps, When does a well executed poor design exceed a poorly executed superior design? I.e. Porsche 911 vs. Pontiac Feiro. Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: 2/20/09 10:55 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds Note that Moss sells for $420 what appears to be the same 3-2-1 LCB exhaust manifold that APT sells for $280. That says a lot about the price:quality issue. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 05:35:47 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:35:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology In-Reply-To: <499F14BA.7080601@comcast.net> References: <499F14BA.7080601@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430902210435n717e250an650aac70dca27551@mail.gmail.com> List, That Nextengine brand 3D scanner is extremely reasonable at 3K although unfortunately a small unit. I priced one for my school in September and fell off my chair as their cheapest one is over 30K although handheld for all the large parts. Our schools 3D printer (powder type) cost 25K and it was the cheapest on the market, a gallon of powder and a gallon of bonder cost's almost 5K. Needless to say we only use it for special projects. They also sold us the hardener which was 12oz for $500. which is needed after the product is made to keep it from breaking but that product has a shelf life of 12 months so if you can get a deal on several bottles it will go bad before you can use it. Just like 2D color inkjet printers for home use they get you by selling the consumables at inflated prices. This powder and bonding agent does not look like anything more than plaster with silicone and a mild liquid glue but at 25K I can't afford to experiment with other consumables but I sure would like to because 5K is just crazy. The one way I was able to cut costs was to buy 2 part epoxy glue to replace the $500. a bottle final stage hardner. I'm experimenting with some kind of single stage epoxy paints this year. https://www.nextengine.com/indexSecure.htm Lin On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Ed's Shop wrote: > >> >> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/video/video_player.shtml?vid=944641 >> >> >> >> > Wow, even Jay Leno is not a fan of cheap chinese crap. > So as soon as the price comes down a bit, I have got to get me one of > these! > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 05:49:08 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:49:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 Message-ID: <205cef430902210449s6640a088tf597053017ff9ba5@mail.gmail.com> List, Is this a dash clock on an eBay Bugeye? 160317224542 I'm guessing if it is it was put in by the owner because I don't see any clocks as an option for any Sprites or am I wrong? Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 05:42:08 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:42:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Human Rotisserie In-Reply-To: <674400502925194572@unknownmsgid> References: <674400502925194572@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <205cef430902210442o709aab0avb0b403d8c311842c@mail.gmail.com> George, You kill me............ Lin On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM, George Brokaw wrote: > I heard humans taste like chicken... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Dare I ask how you know humans taste like pork? > > ( I've been called a pig before, but I think it was in reference to lack of > taste? :) ) > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Michael Rowe > > >As Michael Rowe calls it. > > It does sound like barbequed human, doesn't it? Polynesians called that > "long pig," as people taste like pork. > > Whatever you call it, the savings in time and money are remarkable. > > Michael Rowe _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 06:02:45 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:02:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902210502r71a819feub57a22f8633a48f8@mail.gmail.com> Bill, I am so with you on the power windows, when I was thinking my 15 year old Saturn wagon wouldn't make it through the summer I started pricing cars of similar design, and there were no dealers selling new cars with hand crank windows. So I got frustrated and looked at all the cars at all the dealers and again no hand crank windows on new cars. I decided to go for a 3rd transmission and keep my favorite 1st & maybe last new car. What is with the auto industry why aren't any of them making cars with crank windows I just don't get it. Lin PS Yea ditto Jim, not only banks aren't giving car loans how about people are at the edge of their seats trying to keep their jobs and not buying new cars for fear of no job, food & shelter on their minds. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Ron, > > I went to the Portland (OR) Auto Show at the beginning of the month. > Much > is as you say, much more subdued than past years. Fewer displays, > smaller > displays, fewer attendees. > > The biggest crowds were around the Chevrolet stand. They had both the > new > Camaro and the 'Vette ZR1. > > Also as you say, its not just the domestic auto makers. If one looks at > the > stats, Mercedes sales off over 30%, Toyota off over 30%, Honda off > nearly > 30%, BMW, Saab, nearly every auto company in the developed world is > suffering big time. > > Oddly enough, even the "economy" cars,--Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, Nissan > Versa, Chevy Aveo, Kia Rio, right down the line ALL have electric > windows!! > Not only does that mean that they weigh more than they need to, with > all > the associated ills that brings, the windows will eventually quit > working. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > The days of the digital watch are numbered > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 06:20:25 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:20:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: References: <682359.8411.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902210520w402d1a8ena3df5d8302fa481e@mail.gmail.com> JLC, Hi I'm just starting to learn more about the mechanics of the Sprite and have had my hands on many of their parts as well as replaced 2 differentials in my 68 Spitfire back in the 80's and own and use both of my welding units so I have a basic understanding. But when you say welded rear axle exactly what area is welded and what does that do on a Sprite? Thanks in advance, Linda 62 California Sprite "Pinky" www.freewebs.com/lgrunthaner 67 VW Westfilia Pop-top Camper site in the working On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 8:48 PM, JLC wrote: > Thanks Ron... I also have a 201K now, and as I foolishly retired a few > months before the crash, that hurts! > > I am not going to race again, otherwise I might try to buy my old car back! > I know the whole history of that car, right from new. When I sold the car, > I > gave the buyer a very comprehensive documentation about the car racing > history (SCCA and VARA), names and details of the previous three owners, > the > British Heritage certificate, invoices/bills for most if not all race parts > fitted since 1997, original owner manual, etc. Don't know if that and all > the spare parts I had are still with that car though. It was fun to race, > but in VARA my 948 cc Bugeye was in the same group as Bugeyes with 1100 cc > and even 1275 cc engines. My Bugeye was as good as any and better than most > in turns, but the bigger engined Bugeyes were leaving me in the dust on the > straights! > > If my memory serves me right, at Buttonwillow in So Cal, I could just touch > 100 mph down a long straight with the right tuning, 3.9 welded axle, Turbo > Blue 108 octane racing gas, and the tach needle way past what a street > Bugeye would ever see! I had three axles (all welded) for that car. One was > 3.9, one 4.22, and I forgot the ratio for the last axle. I found the car > quite easy to race with the welded axles, provided you remembered not to > lift in a turn. Only trouble with the welded axles was pushing the car > around in the pits! Last time I raced the car was November 10/11, 2001, at > Las Vegas. I do not know if the two (or three?) subsequent owners ever > raced > the car. > > JLC > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Soave [mailto:soavero at yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:00 PM > To: spridgets at autox.team.net; JLC > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay > > --- On Thu, 2/19/09, JLC wrote: > > Hi.... My old racing Bugeye is on eBay - Item number: > > 150327045302 > > Location: Pasadena, CA. Just thought some of you may be > > interested. I think > > JLC, > Beautiful, beautiful car. If only my 201K were still a 401K.... > > Good to see you back - > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sat Feb 21 06:27:53 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:27:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show Message-ID: <4fa601c99428$32ff61d0$116a010a@mail2world.com> Because a majority of the buyers either want power windows or don't mind having them. So the car companies build them all with power windows to cut costs. These days, people who want manual windows are probably 1% of the market, and it's just not worth it to the big car companies to cater to such a small segment. It's the same reason you can't get a manual trans in something like an Impala. (or even the F150, i think). -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: Linda Grunthaner [grunthaner at gmail.com] >Sent: 2/21/2009 8:03:45 AM >To: pythias at pacifier.com >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show > > >What is with the auto industry why aren't any of them making cars with crank >windows I just don't get it. >Lin From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 06:30:23 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:30:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] rear axle option In-Reply-To: <1c28701c99378$cc1274d0$056a010a@mail2world.com> References: <1c28701c99378$cc1274d0$056a010a@mail2world.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902210530k11abc420l937acfc6bc5a1b68@mail.gmail.com> How does he shift it, from the boot? I like the front suspension : ) Lin On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Chris King wrote: > Check out this bgeye with a narrowed Vega rear: > http://www.modifiedhealeys.org/Photos/157Hammond/157Hammond.htm > > Gear sets from it are on craigslists if any of you are getting any > ideas! :) > http://rochester.craigslist.org/pts/1034270813.html > > Remember, Vegas were 4x4" bolt circle... > > -=Chris > Chris King > http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Feb 21 06:35:02 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:35:02 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show Message-ID: "Who's got 50% and their first born to put down?" Really!!! Yep...we've come a long way, baby! Back in the 50's, lot's of middle class working stiffs paid cash for their new Chevy or Ford every 4 - 6 years or so, putting down a substantial amount and paying off the bal in 6-12 month or up to 24 for those earning less. And two car families were beginning to appear, 1 less than 4 years old, 1 less than 6 or so as people were generally paying only 25% of their take-home to put a reasonably decent roof over the family's head back then. My family's first house, a 3 story colonial in a nice neighborhood ran less than 28k in '48. Good times, man. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Feb 21 06:41:23 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:41:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <205cef430902210502r71a819feub57a22f8633a48f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <790049.56433.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> -- On Sat, 2/21/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Bill, > I am so with you on the power windows, Power windows weigh less than crank windows - that's why Colin Chapman used them on old Lotuses. Ron From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 06:41:39 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:41:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: <205cef430902210449s6640a088tf597053017ff9ba5@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902210449s6640a088tf597053017ff9ba5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: If the dash is any indication, the rest of the car is far from original as well. Did you notice the SECOND temp gauge? If the original temp gauge works, it makes me wonder why there is a second one on the dash, showing a reading. I don't believe am/fm/cassette was an option for a Bugeye, so that makes that white hunk of plastic in front of the shifter unoriginal. In my opinion, the clock is NOT original. Others will voice theirs soon enough, I just happen to be the first to chime in... Brad On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > Is this a dash clock on an eBay Bugeye? 160317224542 I'm guessing if it is > it was put in by the owner because I don't see any clocks as an option for > any Sprites or am I wrong? > Lin > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From CAWS52803 at aol.com Sat Feb 21 06:46:04 2009 From: CAWS52803 at aol.com (CAWS52803 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:46:04 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale Message-ID: I am presenting this to the Spridget List prior to offering it to the local or national clubs or Ebay. I am reluctantly offering my 1961 Bugeye for sale as my wife cannot get into it with her bad knees and we still have our 100/Six for fun. Here are the details: AN5 47736 Right Hand Drive I have most of all the original registration papers from England from the original owner in March 1961 thru several owners to Dec 1984. I purchased it in Feb 1987 in Connecticut. The BH Heritage states it was built Oct 3-5 1961 and Dispatched 9 March 1961. I know, how could it have been built after dispatched. Must be a typo and actually built in October 3-5 1960. In 1993 I restored the car, having it repainted red and installed a new 1300 Marinia Long Engine from Mini Mania and also a 1275 rebuilt transmission from Sport & Classics. All receipts since 1987. It was used for several years before I stored it in a garage in CT about 1997 and not used until I had it shipped to North Carolina the summer of 2006. At that time I had to replace all the master & slave clutch cylinders, brake wheel cylinders, lines, shoes and complete tune up including new ignition wires and battery. It runs great and has lots of pep and zip. I have the tonneau, top and side curtains too. Bonnet lifts forward. I do have a picture available by email and the car was in the 2008 Spridget calendar in January. Car has been appraised and insured for $15,000. Rudy Streng Lenoir, NC **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 21 06:54:53 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:54:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902202252s270b92d7t5e177eda480ad272@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <224782.24599.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Jim Johnson wrote: "Who's got 50% and their first born to put down?" My first (and only) born is 13, there are days when I would consider it. Now, about the 50%... - David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 21 07:07:28 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:07:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <882767.32475.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Aren't Clocks as irrelevent as radios in our little cars? You can't hear the radio unless you're stopped - and why would you want to hear it anyway with all the great noises coming from the car while moving. As for clocks - who wants to be reminded of the time if you're out driving the sports car? The whole point for me with toy cars has always been to lose touch for a while with all the crap from your real life and just enjoy the drive. Of course, I have never owned or worn a watch, so maybe I'm not the most qualified to make a comment on the subject. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Sat Feb 21 07:32:09 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:32:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OMGC - An Interesting Link To A Video Message-ID: I received this from our local MG club. I agree that the sound is great! _____ OMGC Folks (especially those who really enjoy racing and speed) I received a note from a friend of mine who is a member of the British Car Council and a bit of a racing fanatic. He sent me an internet link to view some racing cars in a Shell commercial. You may enjoy it. Here is what my friend, Scott Morris, said about the clip: "Here's a link to a Shell commercial shown in Europe. They're selling gasoline, but the Ferrari's used in the video steal the show. Ferrari pulled several of their race-cars from various ages out of storage, flew them around the world, and filmed them running through the streets of Rome, Rio, New York, Hong Kong and Monaco. Apparently these are the original cars on the original streets. The best part is the sound - from the basso-profundo notes of the early, front-engine era, each scene cuts to a later and later generation, ending with the banshee-wail of a modern F1 car. The sounds alone bring a tear to the eye. Even if you're not a gearhead, this video will stir the soul." You can view the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0jrPrjW3Oc . Safety Fast! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 21 07:37:40 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:37:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Exhaust headers References: <629B44E8B45841EF9D068C7DA92D1FAB@Home> <90BF68D5446C4841AD1E470E37F281A0@NilesAD.von.gov> <78mg19$5s09uc@email.mtu.edu> <302242F3996F45B9865D4888E4D2D255@NilesAD.von.gov> <799knl$5krjh6@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: <5BE4186D615443F284C23933B73E7069@rwa> > I'm interested in this subject. When you say you never got believable > results, what were you attempting to do? Tune carbs by watching the > exhaust gas or ???? > What were you using as your meter or gauge? I've seen the LED bar graph > units (just pictures - not for real) and wondered how useful they might > be. > I'm interested in your experience / story. Tim, I have an Autometer sensor and gauge. Narrowband. It reads significantly leaner than reality under most circumstances. I bought the setup in order to be able to tell how far off my needles are at rpms other than idle. It really does not accomplish this. The bung is welded into the exhaust ppe about 8" past the end of the collector. Too far downstream? I wasn't anxious to make holes in my nice new header at the time. My next header won't be so lucky. David Lieb From breton48 at live.com Sat Feb 21 08:38:02 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:38:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: <205cef430902210520w402d1a8ena3df5d8302fa481e@mail.gmail.com> References: <682359.8411.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <205cef430902210520w402d1a8ena3df5d8302fa481e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Linda, You really don't want welded axles on a street Spridget. Welded means just that - the gears inside the differential are actually welded together, and both rear wheels go around together at the same speed - all the time. You lose the differential purpose, which is to make the inside rear wheel move slower that the outside one in a turn. A welded differential is the poor's man solution to the racing need for a limited slip differential. The advantage of the welded diff in racing is grip - you have the whole power of the engine applied to both wheels all the time. As stated before, a Spridget with a "welded diff" is difficult to move around at low speed, very hard on the half-shafts (axles), and would be in my opinion dangerous on the street - if when turning you lift off the throttle or even worse, use the brakes, you will most likely spin. JLC Linda wrote: Hi I'm just starting to learn more about the mechanics of the Sprite and have had my hands on many of their parts as well as replaced 2 differentials in my 68 Spitfire back in the 80's and own and use both of my welding units so I have a basic understanding. But when you say welded rear axle exactly what area is welded and what does that do on a Sprite? Thanks in advance, Linda From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Feb 21 08:52:28 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:52:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: OMGC - An Interesting Link To A Video In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <499FB2BC.26257.1A2D08@kk7ss.verizon.net> I almost fell off my chair when they showed that poodle LOL... I still miss the 'ol throaty sound'... ;-(( -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Feb 21 08:56:34 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:56:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: <205cef430902210520w402d1a8ena3df5d8302fa481e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <828310.94438.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > so I have a basic understanding. But when you say welded > rear axle exactly > what area is welded and what does that do on a Sprite? Linda, You don't want one. The spider gears are welded to preclude any slip. It makes for (in my opinion) great go-cart handling of a Sprite on a road race course with the right setup. It would be pretty miserable on a street car. In an open diff, the power go to whichever wheel is under the least traction. Limited slip is just that - it will limit the slip of a wheel if it senses it (it is either a torsion sensing device, "TORSEN", or a series of clutches). A good limited slip is ideal (like a Quaife), but many of us are more than used to welded diffs and would be lost without them. As Jacques said, they are a b!tch to push around, and they are most definitely harder on rear axle halfshafts. I use 3.9, 4.22, and 4.55 welded depending on the track. On the street, both my Spridgets have 3.9s in them. Ron From mdrowe at optonline.net Sat Feb 21 09:12:56 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:12:56 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > The question is almost a philosophical one: In general, yes. But not in this specific case. The two sources sell the same Maniflow header from England with a $140 price difference. Michael Rowe From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sat Feb 21 09:18:43 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:18:43 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show Message-ID: Eventually, technology becomes cheaper than the simpler, more elegant solution. Case in point; a wired keyboard can be purchased for about $7, but a decent mechanical drafting pencil is $10 to $15. As to weight, the Lotus Elise and Exige come with electrical windows because they saved weight. Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Bill L" Oddly enough, even the "economy" cars,--Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, Nissan Versa, Chevy Aveo, Kia Rio, right down the line ALL have electric windows!! Not only does that mean that they weigh more than they need to, with all the associated ills that brings, the windows will eventually quit working. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" The days of the digital watch are numbered You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sat Feb 21 09:24:02 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:24:02 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show Message-ID: I've got to start reading all the messages before making the same points! Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Bill L" ; "Linda Grunthaner" Cc: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: 2/21/09 8:41 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show -- On Sat, 2/21/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Bill, > I am so with you on the power windows, Power windows weigh less than crank windows - that's why Colin Chapman used them on old Lotuses. Ron You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 21 10:20:09 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:20:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1979 Midget Ad on YouTube Message-ID: Another friend sent me this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg-SU_JZO04 From cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 10:25:03 2009 From: cosmicmag1380 at gmail.com (CosmicMag1380) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:25:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Vote for Music, No LBC, Help a Friend Message-ID: Off topic but a friend, Larry Book, has a song in the top 15 of a contest. I would appreciate it if you have the time to check it out and hopefully vote for his song. It is down the list titled "It matters to me". http://www.cmt.com/asm/contests/nsai/cmt_choice/2009/vote.jhtml All votes greatfully appreciated! -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1967 Sprite - following in the 73's footsteps to the boneyard... From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 10:43:53 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:43:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <205cef430902210502r71a819feub57a22f8633a48f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> <205cef430902210502r71a819feub57a22f8633a48f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902210943l74fa200aie361f838d3c9a887@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > > PS Yea ditto Jim, not only banks aren't giving car loans how about people > are at the edge of their seats trying to keep their jobs and not buying new > cars for fear of no job, food & shelter on their minds. Sure, but the lack of loans is still the main factor. It means that it doesn't matter about your job or your home situation. You can't get a lone even if everything else is fine! I'm retired and my pension is nicely insulated as I saw this mess coming. But I still can't get a car loan or a home loan!! I own our home and our current cars outright, but none of them are worth squat at the moment so I'll have to keep them until the credit crunch gets fixed..... If I live that long! Sendin' our love to the Congressional banking and finance committees.... And especially Barney Frank... -- Cheers!! Jim >From the Peoples Social Democracy of America (PSDA) From cclabaw at juno.com Sat Feb 21 11:24:35 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:24:35 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?............................. ...........eBay 160317224542 Message-ID: <20090221.102435.8188.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> On the other hand, a dash-mounted stop watch... Clay L. '67 Sprite -- David Booker wrote: Aren't Clocks as irrelevent as radios in our little cars? You can't hear the radio unless you're stopped - and why would you want to hear it anyway with all the great noises coming from the car while moving. As for clocks - who wants to be reminded of the time if you're out driving the sports car? The whole point for me with toy cars has always been to lose touch for a while with all the crap from your real life and just enjoy the drive. Of course, I have never owned or worn a watch, so maybe I'm not the most qualified to make a comment on the subject. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Click to learn about options trading and get the latest information. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIzQY62bwk84WiHmjfTG8XGVLkK iGrAZ4H5AoUYnbz46yKMUeLxyY/ From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Sat Feb 21 11:45:53 2009 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:45:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Spridgets] Large Stash of NOS Lucas Parts Message-ID: <25444302.1235241953352.JavaMail.root@elwamui-chisos.atl.sa.earthlink.net> FYI, Best, Rick Feibusch Venice, CA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Michael Balch in Des Moins This is a website for a company that recently purchased a 2 story warehose full of NOS auto parts. Appears to be mostly vintage Lucas from the 1950s to the 1980s. You can go on the website and see pictures of what they have inventoried so far. If you want something, you send you them an e-mail and they will list it on EBAY. Some of the parts are already listed on EBAY. You may want to pass this on to the British car clubs/folks you know. http://maxwell-thomas.com/default.aspx Mike From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Feb 21 12:18:31 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:18:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > When does a well executed poor design exceed > a poorly executed superior design? I.e. Porsche 911 vs. Pontiac Feiro. I don't understand. The Fiero was poorly designed and poorly executed, but looked kind of interesting from the outside. From tinydog at snet.net Sat Feb 21 13:42:24 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:42:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <990662.45752.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog sez: Then I'll take it! --- On Sat, 2/21/09, CAWS52803 at aol.com wrote: From: CAWS52803 at aol.com Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 8:46 AM the car was in the 2008 Spridget calendar in January. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Feb 21 14:16:55 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:16:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1768772575.20090221131655@pacifier.com> Hello Billy, The design and concept of the Fiero was top rate. The problem came in the execution. GM would not allow a car that cost half as much as a 'Vette have the performance of one. The test mules went like raped apes, and handled as if on rails. Corporate mandated no new castings for the suspension and made them use CHEVETTE front ends and drive trains. They weren't allowed to use the 3600 V6 that the engine bay was designed to handle, but were stuck with the ECOTECH 4 banger. (Has GM ever made a decent inline 4?) The frame of the Fiero was rock solid. After it was annouced that the car would be discontinued the engineers were finally allowed to install the turbo charged V-6 engines, and the cars finally started living up to their potential. The whole story illustrates what went wrong in GM corporate culture. Rather than trying to make the best possible car from the beginning, all to often they figure that they'll make more money if they leave room to make it better over the next few years. We all remember planned obsolescence. European and Japanese manufactures figure to make a car that is as good as they know how. And still improve it during the model run, without intentionally holding back. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "My investments are worth more every day," said Tom appreciatively. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sat Feb 21 14:43:54 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:43:54 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds Message-ID: The original Fiero design was a slick mid-engined coupe that ot performed and out handled the Corvette, at a much lower final price. By using light weight, mid-engine placement, a modern engine, and a chassis and suspension built from scratch, GM had a potential winner. Always forward thinking, GM determined that it could not risk the Vette's crown, and it was more cost effective to limit performance of the Fiero, rather than improve the Vette. Once the Fiero became a styling showcase rather than an engineering showcase, they just threw parts bin items in. Hence the Iron Duke engine. The late V6 GT model was closer to the original design, but still not to the level of the original elegant design. This compared to Porsche's stubborn belief that they are wholy defined by an engine placement that thumbs its nose a the laws of physics. However, they have done everthing in there power to overcome this design. Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Andrew Payne" ; "Michael Rowe" ; "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: 2/21/09 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds > When does a well executed poor design exceed > a poorly executed superior design? I.e. Porsche 911 vs. Pontiac Feiro. I don't understand. The Fiero was poorly designed and poorly executed, but looked kind of interesting from the outside. From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Feb 21 14:50:38 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:50:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Present Owner. Message-ID: <1108854932.20090221135038@pacifier.com> Hello Spridgets, Before setting out on a drive to the Coast down the scenic Columbia River (Washington side) this morning I topped up the oil and the dash pots. .. Just about the time I was turning onto U.S. 101 thought I could smell something buring.... maybe oil?....It went away and I figured it was that car I just passed. 50 or 60 miles further I smelled it again. And a little later again AND I could have sworn I saw a puff of smoke INSIDE the car. .. hmmm... by the time I was back thru the coast range and onto I-5 i was getting it every 3 or 4 minutes. I DID NOT want to look lest if find something that would prevent me from getting back home, so I continued driving until I had the car in the garage. When I popped the hood, I found that I had NOT put the cap back on the valve cover oil filler hole and had blown oil all over the engine compartment. I'm gonna have to find some degreaser I guess. .. DUMB DUMB DUMB! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Chaste makes waste. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 21 15:01:58 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:01:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale References: <990662.45752.qm@web83915.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0762B3E4312D4B6CBE36E2F031BCDB90@rwa> > tinydog sez: > > Then I'll take it! Along with all the other cars on the January page of the 2008 calendar? David Lieb From tinydog at snet.net Sat Feb 21 15:32:53 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:32:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <135531.26986.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog asked: btw, What's the price? --- On Sat, 2/21/09, CAWS52803 at aol.com wrote: From: CAWS52803 at aol.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye for sale To: tinydog at snet.net Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 4:33 PM OK, Sold, I'll let you know where to send the cash! Rudy A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 21 16:08:30 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:08:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Present Owner. References: <1108854932.20090221135038@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1BDF3A4B866745B493FD13D58116EAD2@Larry> When I popped the hood, I found that I had NOT put the cap back on the valve cover oil filler hole and had blown oil all over the engine compartment. I'm gonna have to find some degreaser I guess. .. DUMB DUMB DUMB! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Chaste makes waste. _______________________________________________ Bill, none of us have ever done anything that dumb. No, I don't mean leaving the cap off. I mean telling everybody about it. ;-)) LAD From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 21 16:12:33 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:12:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Present Owner. In-Reply-To: <1108854932.20090221135038@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <210509.96928.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Been there, done that... at least be comfotable in the knowledge yours is not the only Spridget on the planet to have that inflicted upon it by a DPO. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 16:20:39 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:20:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] WAY OFF TOPIC Message-ID: The following link contains adult words, sexual discussions, and other things to offend those easily offended. All the rest of you will laugh your asses off. An interview with the worlds oldest known moonshiner http://www.jackassworld.com/blog/2009/02/20/popcorn-sutton/ -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 16:32:38 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:32:38 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] 1979 Midget Ad on YouTube In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0902211532m126c81a7x8acc7f8c5329820f@mail.gmail.com> Patting the door!!! *THAT's* what I've been overlooking!! -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM, David Lieb wrote: > Another friend sent me this one: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg-SU_JZO04 From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Feb 21 16:35:34 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:35:34 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] TR-2 in Joisey Message-ID: $10!! Such a deal! Neat machines....90HP as I recall.....looked at one before I decided to upgrade to MGA from BE way back when. Couldn't turn down that gorgeous body and smooth sounding motor which became great with an Abarth. Friend had a '58 TR3 with slightly increased CR. Very "gustsy" motors. Lotta cowl shake as I recall but loved the cool cut-down doors. :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Frank Clarici Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:28 PM To: Robert E. Shlafer Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] TR-2 in Joisey Robert E. Shlafer wrote: > What about it, Frank? Neat car!!! Lean right out there and "meet the road"!! :) > > I owned a TR2 way back when. I paid $10 for it. I got BEAT! -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Sat Feb 21 16:43:44 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:43:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Present Owner. In-Reply-To: <1108854932.20090221135038@pacifier.com> References: <1108854932.20090221135038@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <9780497B-4757-44F0-AE65-DFD10D02A92C@comcast.net> NO NO NO. You did not forget to "put the cap back on the valve cover oil filler hole," you did however, "take a rust preventive trip.".. See, doesn't that sound better? It's like our "finances are going down the tube while our taxes go up" vs "stimulus package." Lester On Feb 21, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Spridgets, > > Before setting out on a drive to the Coast down the scenic Columbia > River > (Washington side) this morning I topped up the oil and the dash > pots. .. Just > about the time I was turning onto U.S. 101 thought I could smell > something > buring.... maybe oil?....It went away and I figured it was that car > I just > passed. 50 or 60 miles further I smelled it again. And a little > later again > AND I could have sworn I saw a puff of smoke INSIDE the car. .. > hmmm... by the > time I was back thru the coast range and onto I-5 i was getting it > every 3 or > 4 minutes. I DID NOT want to look lest if find something that would > prevent me > from getting back home, so I continued driving until I had the car > in the > garage. When I popped the hood, I found that I had NOT put the cap > back on the > valve cover oil filler hole and had blown oil all over the engine > compartment. > I'm gonna have to find some degreaser I guess. .. > > DUMB DUMB DUMB! > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Chaste makes waste. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as oldsaabguy at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sat Feb 21 16:45:09 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:45:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology References: <499F14BA.7080601@comcast.net> <205cef430902210435n717e250an650aac70dca27551@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Rapid prototyping is neat, but I do not see much use of it in making parts for old cars. It's more geared towards modern product design. You are much better off with a small cnc machine. The software is free www.linuxcnc.org You can also DIY the laser scanner http://www.david-laserscanner.com/ I have fiddled with this scanning method, but I have not yet machined a part from it's results. You can build a decent stepper motor driven CNC machine for under $1000. If you can spend a little more you can get a pretty good system from this outfit: http://www.pdjinc.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Frank Clarici" Cc: "Spridgets" ; "Midgetsprite at Yahoogroups.Com" ; "Mgs at Autox.Team.Net" ; "Bugeye at Yahoogroups.Com" Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [Healeys] FW: Amazing technology > List, > That Nextengine brand 3D scanner is extremely reasonable at 3K although > unfortunately a small unit. I priced one for my school in September and fell > off my chair as their cheapest one is over 30K although handheld for all the > large parts. Our schools 3D printer (powder type) cost 25K and it was the > cheapest on the market, a gallon of powder and a gallon of bonder cost's > almost 5K. Needless to say we only use it for special projects. They also > sold us the hardener which was 12oz for $500. which is needed after the > product is made to keep it from breaking but that product has a shelf life > of 12 months so if you can get a deal on several bottles it will go bad > before you can use it. Just like 2D color inkjet printers for home use they > get you by selling the consumables at inflated prices. This powder and > bonding agent does not look like anything more than plaster with silicone > and a mild liquid glue but at 25K I can't afford to experiment with other > consumables but I sure would like to because 5K is just crazy. The one way I > was able to cut costs was to buy 2 part epoxy glue to replace the $500. a > bottle final stage hardner. I'm experimenting with some kind of single stage > epoxy paints this year. > https://www.nextengine.com/indexSecure.htm > Lin From pilotrob at webtv.net Sat Feb 21 16:48:35 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:48:35 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Present Owner. Message-ID: Your basic oil change! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:08 PM To: Bill L, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Present Owner. When I popped the hood, I found that I had NOT put the cap back on the valve cover oil filler hole and had blown oil all over the engine compartment. I'm gonna have to find some degreaser I guess. .. DUMB DUMB DUMB! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Chaste makes waste. _______________________________________________ Bill, none of us have ever done anything that dumb. No, I don't mean leaving the cap off. I mean telling everybody about it. ;-)) LAD You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Feb 21 16:58:23 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 15:58:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Present Owner. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You get distracted . . .and things happen; more as you get old. Now, when I was in high school, my buddy changed his oil and left the pan plug out. No problem; he always worked with a large sheet of cardboard under his car. Just pulled it out with the oil puddle in the middle, keep it level and poured the oil back in the valve cover's oil hole. Yes, we replaced the pan's plug first. ...bill ======================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert E. Shlafer Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:49 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Present Owner. Your basic oil change! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:08 PM To: Bill L, spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Dumb Present Owner. When I popped the hood, I found that I had NOT put the cap back on the valve cover oil filler hole and had blown oil all over the engine compartment. I'm gonna have to find some degreaser I guess. .. DUMB DUMB DUMB! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Chaste makes waste. _______________________________________________ Bill, none of us have ever done anything that dumb. No, I don't mean leaving the cap off. I mean telling everybody about it. ;-)) LAD You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as corvallis at peoplepc.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.2/1963 - Release Date: 02/21/09 11:05:00 From breton48 at live.com Sat Feb 21 17:28:11 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:28:11 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <1768772575.20090221131655@pacifier.com> References: <1768772575.20090221131655@pacifier.com> Message-ID: European makers are not immune to the same mentality - I don't know what they have done to the Boxster since 2005, but previous to that Porsche made sure the Boxster was fitted with a much lower hp engine than its chassis could handle, and lumbered with an open diff. Reason? With the power of a 911 and with a limited slip diff, the Boxster was faster and better handling than the 911 (Ruff proved it!) I think Porsche made also sure the Cayman (a Boxster with a roof) could not challenge the 911 - both instances of a car, as Bill said, NOT made the best possible from the beginning. That being said, I am sure the quality of the Boxster is way higher than that of a Fiero! JLC Bill L. wrote: The design and concept of the Fiero was top rate. The problem came in the execution. GM would not allow a car that cost half as much as a 'Vette have the performance of one. The test mules went like raped apes, and handled as if on rails. Corporate mandated no new castings for the suspension and made them use CHEVETTE front ends and drive trains. They weren't allowed to use the 3600 V6 that the engine bay was designed to handle, but were stuck with the ECOTECH 4 banger. (Has GM ever made a decent inline 4?) The frame of the Fiero was rock solid. After it was annouced that the car would be discontinued the engineers were finally allowed to install the turbo charged V-6 engines, and the cars finally started living up to their potential. The whole story illustrates what went wrong in GM corporate culture. Rather than trying to make the best possible car from the beginning, all to often they figure that they'll make more money if they leave room to make it better over the next few years. We all remember planned obsolescence. European and Japanese manufactures figure to make a car that is as good as they know how. And still improve it during the model run, without intentionally holding back. From stevenm at optonline.net Sat Feb 21 19:19:19 2009 From: stevenm at optonline.net (Steven Michelsen) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:19:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Kansas City, MO - 1971 Midget needs fixing Message-ID: Kansas City, MO listers please note: I got an email from a guy who is looking for help to get his Midget on the road. He seems to be prepared to pay for help. If you want to get involved, take a look, ask a question, or suggest a local resource, please email him at pk at pkwebdesigns.com . He is not a listmember. All I know is what he wrote - below is his email to me: Steve www.1978mgmidget.com ----- Original Message ----- From: pk To: stevenm at optonline.net Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: restore 1971 mg midget Hello: We bought an mg midget in decent condition, we ran it all summer, pulled it in the garage and it has not moved in years. 8 years in fact. I became disabled so I am not able to restore it as I would of liked. Do you know of anyone who can restore it? We put a new top on it , we would like: 7 Engine over hauled 7 Electronic ignition (it now has points) 7 New brakes (I started replacing each but only got to the back 2) 7 Transmission work (main seal has a leak) 7 Complete paint 7 Interior 7 I want to keep all I can original (carb, lucus gages, ect) We live in the Kansas City area so Long Motors (a mg parts distributor is close) If you know of anyone let me know as every time I go into the garage it just hurts me to see the car sitting there and I cannot restore it myself. Paul From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Feb 21 19:26:50 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:26:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Kansas City, MO - 1971 Midget needs fixing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Tell him to sell it as is and take the money he would have paid to fix it up and buy a nice one ready to run. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Steven Michelsen wrote: > Kansas City, MO listers please note: > > I got an email from a guy who is looking for help to get his Midget on the > road. He seems to be prepared to pay for help. If you want to get > involved, > take a look, ask a question, or suggest a local resource, please email him > at > pk at pkwebdesigns.com . He is not a listmember. All I know is what he > wrote - > below is his email to me: > > Steve > www.1978mgmidget.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pk > To: stevenm at optonline.net > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36 PM > Subject: restore 1971 mg midget > > > Hello: We bought an mg midget in decent condition, we ran it all summer, > pulled it in the garage and it has not moved in years. 8 years in fact. I > became disabled so I am not able to restore it as I would of liked. > > Do you know of anyone who can restore it? We put a new top on it , we > would > like: > > 7 Engine over hauled > > 7 Electronic ignition (it now has points) > > 7 New brakes (I started replacing each but only got to the back 2) > > 7 Transmission work (main seal has a leak) > > 7 Complete paint > > 7 Interior > > 7 I want to keep all I can original (carb, lucus gages, ect) > > We live in the Kansas City area so Long Motors (a mg parts distributor is > close) > > If you know of anyone let me know as every time I go into the garage it > just > hurts me to see the car sitting there and I cannot restore it myself. > > > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dwramsey at att.net Sat Feb 21 20:54:10 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:54:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: <882767.32475.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090222035434.3CCD5187644@autox.team.net> I assume you don't enter you car in a lot of Rally's? It is very common to put a clock in you car if you're into that kind of driving. Crash Aren't Clocks as irrelevent as radios in our little cars? You can't hear the radio unless you're stopped - and why would you want to hear it anyway with all the great noises coming from the car while moving. As for clocks - who wants to be reminded of the time if you're out driving the sports car? The whole point for me with toy cars has always been to lose touch for a while with all the crap from your real life and just enjoy the drive. Of course, I have never owned or worn a watch, so maybe I'm not the most qualified to make a comment on the subject. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island _______________________________________________ From kk7ss at verizon.net Sat Feb 21 21:09:52 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:09:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: <20090222035434.3CCD5187644@autox.team.net> References: <882767.32475.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <20090222035434.3CCD5187644@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <49A05F90.14039.160881A@kk7ss.verizon.net> When I rallied, I used a clock for overall race progress and checkpoint timing plus a seperate stopwatch for stages.. Aircraft instruments are perfect... On 21 Feb 2009 at 19:54, David Ramsey wrote: >> I assume you don't enter you car in a lot of Rally's? It is very >> common to put a clock in you car if you're into that kind of driving. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 21 21:10:46 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:10:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 Message-ID: <421496.72910.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 2/21/09, David Ramsey wrote: "I assume you don't enter you car in a lot of Rally's? It is very common to put a clock in you car if you're into that kind of driving. Crash Good point - a rally clock / stopwatch is another thing entirely. I was assuming somebody just stuck a clock in the dash so they could keep an eye on the time (which is counter to what I use a sports car for). I have run rally events before, but not in years so that didn't occur to me. I would love to run some more rally's, and with my speedometer dancing up and down at roughly 1.5 times my actual speed it would certainly add a new level of complexity to the task... David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Sat Feb 21 21:57:34 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:57:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Price:quality in Exhaust Manifolds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090222045734.XQM10127.hrndva-omta04.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> At least the seats had somewhat good speakers... For some reason, I see a lot of them yet in Milwaukee Chris > When does a well executed poor design exceed > a poorly executed superior design? I.e. Porsche 911 vs. Pontiac Feiro. I don't understand. The Fiero was poorly designed and poorly executed, but looked kind of interesting from the outside. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 23:31:48 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:31:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Kansas City, MO - 1971 Midget needs fixing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0902212231u37bc7222j3f6ef08004bcc74f@mail.gmail.com> I'm not in that area but I do belong to the Kansas City Austin Healey club and there are some great folks in that group who will know who to contact. There are a number of MG Midgets in the area. I'll refer you to Mike Osipik, president of the Kansas City Healey club. Perhaps they can provide the information you need. I copied Mike with this message.... Cheers!! Jim On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Steven Michelsen wrote: > Kansas City, MO listers please note: > > I got an email from a guy who is looking for help to get his Midget on the > road. He seems to be prepared to pay for help. If you want to get > involved, > take a look, ask a question, or suggest a local resource, please email him > at > pk at pkwebdesigns.com . He is not a listmember. All I know is what he > wrote - > below is his email to me: > > Steve > www.1978mgmidget.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: pk > To: stevenm at optonline.net > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:36 PM > Subject: restore 1971 mg midget > > > Hello: We bought an mg midget in decent condition, we ran it all summer, > pulled it in the garage and it has not moved in years. 8 years in fact. I > became disabled so I am not able to restore it as I would of liked. > > Do you know of anyone who can restore it? We put a new top on it , we > would > like: > > 7 Engine over hauled > > 7 Electronic ignition (it now has points) > > 7 New brakes (I started replacing each but only got to the back 2) > > 7 Transmission work (main seal has a leak) > > 7 Complete paint > > 7 Interior > > 7 I want to keep all I can original (carb, lucus gages, ect) > > We live in the Kansas City area so Long Motors (a mg parts distributor is > close) > > If you know of anyone let me know as every time I go into the garage it > just > hurts me to see the car sitting there and I cannot restore it myself. > > > > Paul From davriker at nwi.net Sun Feb 22 00:05:52 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 23:05:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> <205cef430902210502r71a819feub57a22f8633a48f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ADD259EE31C484082ECD02899B053F5@MAIN> The following 2009 model cars are available with manual windows: Chevrolet Aveo Chevrolet Cobalt Chevrolet Colorado Regular and Extended Cab Chevrolet Silverado W/T and LS series LD pickups Chevrolet Express Van Jeep Compass Jeep Patriot Jeep Wrangler Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Dodge Caliber Ford Focus Ford Ranger Ford F150 Work Truck Ford Econoline Van Good advice: 1. Never put a $1000 transmission in a $500 car. It's still a $500 car. 2. Your old car isn't worth more because it has a new engine. It was worth nothing UNTIL you put in a new engine. 3. Never get in a car that is worth less than you spent on the clothes you are wearing. You could ruin your clothes. 4. What you owe on your car has nothing to do with what your car is worth. If you owe $10,000 and it is worth $5,000, it's worth $5,000. If you owe $2,000 and it's worth $5,000, you wouldn't accept $2,000 for it would you? 5. If the price seems too good to be true, there probably is a reason. Once you know the reason, the price is usually just about right. 6. If you focus on price alone, you will never own an automobile that you truely love. 7. It's a whole lot easier to make a $400 payment on a car you love than a $300 payment on a car you hate. 8. Don't buy an SUV if your grandkids visit once a year. Rent a van once a year. Then you don't have to clean it up when they go home. 9. If you only own a small car, you never have to take the soccer team out to pizza. 10. (Similar to 8) Don't buy a pickup if you only need it to go to the dump once a year. Borrow the neighbors truck. 11. If you don't own a truck, the neighbor will never be able to ask to borrow your truck to go to the dump. 12. Why buy an RV? I've never been to a town without a motel and a restaurant. 13. Don't try to own one car that does everything but excells at nothing. It's better to have several cars that each do one thing well. Me, I have 4 cars. A sports car, a muscle car, a station wagon, and a sedan. When I need a truck, I borrow the neighbors, when people visit, I rent an SUV. Dave R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Bill L" Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show > Bill, > I am so with you on the power windows, when I was thinking my 15 year old > Saturn wagon wouldn't make it through the summer I started pricing cars of > similar design, and there were no dealers selling new cars with hand crank > windows. So I got frustrated and looked at all the cars at all the dealers > and again no hand crank windows on new cars. I decided to go for a 3rd > transmission and keep my favorite 1st & maybe last new car. From john.leier at leier.org Sun Feb 22 02:24:20 2009 From: john.leier at leier.org (John Leier) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 01:24:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902200924l4d624192me10e9662a55becda@mail.gmail.com> References: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> <43840a7e0902200924l4d624192me10e9662a55becda@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6AEA5E83ABA643F6BF18D8C8752FDED9@Latitude830> Don't mistake me for a supporter of tracking hardware in private cars, but the fuel tax probably is a dead-end idea. How do you collect fuel taxes when you just plug your car into a charger at home and don't use refueling stations? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: Cc: "spridgets" Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... > Won't work. How they gonna keep track of it in a way that ingenious home > mechanics can't beat? Even if they tried to do it with computer chips > they'd be hacked within an hour or two! Fuel tax is the only thing that > makes sense and the vehicle owner can't cheat on. > > Cheers!! > Jim From cmlove at knology.net Sun Feb 22 02:29:56 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 03:29:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... In-Reply-To: <6AEA5E83ABA643F6BF18D8C8752FDED9@Latitude830> References: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> <43840a7e0902200924l4d624192me10e9662a55becda@mail.gmail.com> <6AEA5E83ABA643F6BF18D8C8752FDED9@Latitude830> Message-ID: <49A11B14.8000709@knology.net> President Obama has already announced that this will NOT be a part of his policy. He will not support it. From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Feb 22 04:22:57 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:22:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Philly Swap Meet Message-ID: For those that will be asking ;-) ANNUAL BRITISH CAR FLEA MARKET BUY SELL SWAP Hosted By Philadelphia MG Club Sunday, March 29th 2009 8:00 am  1:00 pm Location: Steves Complete Car Care 6904 Castor Ave., Philadelphia, PA 19149 Dust off all your automotive goodies: Parts, Signs, Books, Toys, Jewelry, Magazines, Tools, Models, Pictures, Manuals, Ads, and any related British related automobilia. VENDORS - $10 PER SPACE Refreshments available Contact Information: Chuck Miller (267) 241-9554 [porsh911t at comcast.net] Steve Pilla (267) 767-8150 [1sccc at verizon.net] Contact by 3/21/09 to reserve a space -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sun Feb 22 04:42:55 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:42:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902202252s270b92d7t5e177eda480ad272@mail.gmail.com> References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> <43840a7e0902202252s270b92d7t5e177eda480ad272@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Not entirely true. You can get a loan, just at usurious rates. I got a new MINI Cooper S Clubman in December. I had ordered it in Sept when I was quoted 6% what I got was higher. I got it through MINI Finance, it was the only loan I could get at the time. BTW love the damn car. It is a blast to drive (read: planted handling) and I find myself less prone to try to race than I did in the Saturn. In the Saturn I was trying to keep up, in the MINI, I know I can take them ;-) Larry On Feb 21, 2009, at 1:52 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > You're missing the point, guys. Of course all the car manufacturers > are in > trouble because they can't sell their cars. But its not because > people don't > want to buy their cars. Its because nobody can pay cash on the > barrel head > and the banks aren't lending!! > The cars are just fine. The banks and the credit (or lack thereof) > markets > are the problem. Who's got 50% and their first born to put down? > > Cheers!! > Jim > > -- Larry Macy 78 Midget Keep your top down and your chin up. Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. lmacy at phillymgclub.com Board Member at Large Philadelphia MG Club Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Sun Feb 22 06:31:38 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 05:31:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... Message-ID: Well, that's taxed too already, isn't it? :) More to the point, I've read of ideas where charging stations are set up at places of work, public parking garages, etc. where one would recharge the car while at work/shopping etc. That juice could certainly be taxed like a fuel tax. Another Israeli firm (I read this in Wired a few months back) has the idea that one buys a car, but leases the battery pack. Then if you need a charge while away from home, you can drive into a Jiffy-Lube type of building and swap your battery pack out for a freshly charged one. I'm sure that transaction could be taxed as well. The idea for taxing per mile is essentially already here. How many of you have EZ-Pass? On something like the NY Thruway, Jersey Turnpike, or Mass Pike, it's essentially a per-mile road tax. You have an RFID tag in your car, which id's you and the amount you drive. -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: John Leier [john.leier at leier.org] >Sent: 2/22/2009 4:25:20 AM >To: bmwwxman at gmail.com;kk7ss at verizon.net >Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... > >Don't mistake me for a supporter of tracking hardware in private cars, but >the fuel tax probably is a dead-end idea. How do you collect fuel taxes >when you just plug your car into a charger at home and don't use refueling >stations? From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 07:02:12 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:02:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <4ADD259EE31C484082ECD02899B053F5@MAIN> References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> <205cef430902210502r71a819feub57a22f8633a48f8@mail.gmail.com> <4ADD259EE31C484082ECD02899B053F5@MAIN> Message-ID: <49A15AE4.3010200@comcast.net> David Riker wrote: > The following 2009 model cars are available with manual windows: > > Ford F150 Work Truck But no manual transmission! So after 30+ years of buying Ford trucks, it;s time to check out a Dodge. > > 13. When I need a truck, I borrow the neighbors, I have a truck and yes the neighbor does borrow it maybe once a year. hmmmmm. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 07:14:03 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:14:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... In-Reply-To: <6AEA5E83ABA643F6BF18D8C8752FDED9@Latitude830> References: <499E72BD.10531.51AC18@kk7ss.verizon.net> <43840a7e0902200924l4d624192me10e9662a55becda@mail.gmail.com> <6AEA5E83ABA643F6BF18D8C8752FDED9@Latitude830> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902220614g2ba89c6bxc965d31aaa735e46@mail.gmail.com> Read your electric bill. There's a line that says "Tax".... You'll start seeing quarter slots on outdoor sockets everywhere.... Just like the little electric air pump machines at the convenience stores... Oh. And the price of using anything that requires electricity will go up too. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 3:24 AM, John Leier wrote: > Don't mistake me for a supporter of tracking hardware in private cars, but > the fuel tax probably is a dead-end idea. How do you collect fuel taxes > when you just plug your car into a charger at home and don't use refueling > stations? > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" > To: > Cc: "spridgets" > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:24 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Big Brother is on the way... > > > Won't work. How they gonna keep track of it in a way that ingenious home >> mechanics can't beat? Even if they tried to do it with computer chips >> they'd be hacked within an hour or two! Fuel tax is the only thing that >> makes sense and the vehicle owner can't cheat on. >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> > > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 07:17:51 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:17:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <49A15AE4.3010200@comcast.net> References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> <205cef430902210502r71a819feub57a22f8633a48f8@mail.gmail.com> <4ADD259EE31C484082ECD02899B053F5@MAIN> <49A15AE4.3010200@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902220617i37030bd4n5fb9158302a09416@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Frank Clarici wrote: > So after 30+ years of buying Ford trucks, it;s time to check out a Dodge. Sure. It'll have to be used though.... They won't be making any new ones once they go under... ;-) -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 07:24:34 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:24:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <49A15AE4.3010200@comcast.net> Message-ID: <15213.5301.qm@web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Frank Clarici wrote: > > 13. When I need a truck, I borrow the neighbors, I have a truck and yes the neighbor does borrow it maybe once a year. hmmmmm. Yes, but occassional rentals won't work for you since you use it every day. I doubt any of your LBC's (or the Jag for that matter) would be a viable substitute. Now maybe if you built one of those Spridget pickups... David Booker '71 Miget Long Island From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 07:34:37 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:34:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <713474.96806.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> They did the exact same thing wth the Allante. Seems I remember that it finally got the Northstar about the time they killed it. I'm sure there are numerous examples of this, but the Fiero and the Allante are right up there at the top of the examples of missed opportunities. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 07:55:34 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:55:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Corroded battery question Message-ID: <229171.2817.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Anybody know what - if anything - I can use to kill the corrosion on the battery pack one of my son's remote control cars? Thanks, David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sun Feb 22 08:07:19 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 07:07:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Corroded battery question In-Reply-To: <229171.2817.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <229171.2817.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: If you have cleaned the area, and corrosion reappears, something is wrong. Either the batteries are being over-charged or some of the batteries are bad. ...bill in oregon ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Booker Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:56 AM To: spridget Subject: [Spridgets] NO LBC - Corroded battery question Anybody know what - if anything - I can use to kill the corrosion on the battery pack one of my son's remote control cars? Thanks, David Booker '71 Midget Long Island _______________________________________________ From markwemple at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 08:42:02 2009 From: markwemple at yahoo.com (Mark Wemple) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 07:42:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Philly Swap Meet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <691035.24675.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks Larry! I had posted this question on spritespot but never got an answer. Biff, I'll truck us up this year for a change, if you want. Mark Mark D. Wemple, Esq. 359 Dun Robbin Drive Severna Park, Maryland 21146 Tel. (410) 987-5831/ Fax. (410) 987-1410 --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Larry Macy wrote: > From: Larry Macy > Subject: [Spridgets] Philly Swap Meet > To: "Spridgets net" > Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 6:22 AM > For those that will be asking ;-) > > ANNUAL BRITISH CAR FLEA MARKET > > BUY SELL SWAP > > > > Hosted By Philadelphia MG Club > > > > Sunday, March 29th 2009 > > 8:00 am 1:00 pm > > Location: Steves Complete Car Care > > 6904 Castor Ave., Philadelphia, PA 19149 > > > Dust off all your automotive goodies: Parts, Signs, Books, > Toys, > Jewelry, Magazines, Tools, Models, Pictures, Manuals, Ads, > and any > related British related automobilia. > > > > VENDORS - $10 PER SPACE > > Refreshments available > > > > Contact Information: > > Chuck Miller (267) 241-9554 [porsh911t at comcast.net] > > Steve Pilla (267) 767-8150 [1sccc at verizon.net] > > > > Contact by 3/21/09 to reserve a space > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the > intention of > arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to > skid in > sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, > totally > worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as markwemple at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 22 08:45:42 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 07:45:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show References: Message-ID: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> That's why I finally stopped owning pickups. Friends, neighbors and relatives used it more than me! Bought a 5x8 trailer that I pull with my 4 cyl. Camry and can do 95% of what I could with the pickup. The other 5% I use my neighbor's and he uses my trailer when he doesn't want to get the truck dirty. Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:24:34 -0800 (PST) From: David Booker Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show To: David Riker , Frank Clarici Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Message-ID: <15213.5301.qm at web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Frank Clarici wrote: > > 13. When I need a truck, I borrow the neighbors, I have a truck and yes the neighbor does borrow it maybe once a year. hmmmmm. Yes, but occassional rentals won't work for you since you use it every day. I doubt any of your LBC's (or the Jag for that matter) would be a viable substitute. Now maybe if you built one of those Spridget pickups... David Booker '71 Miget Long Island From jimndi at frontiernet.net Sun Feb 22 08:51:30 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Founier) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:51:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Correct Engine color Message-ID: Does anyone know the correct color for a 1970 1275 cc Engine?? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 09:11:24 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:11:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Correct Engine color In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <472380.80471.qm@web36807.mail.mud.yahoo.com> FWIW - My '71 1275 is red David Booker From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 09:18:19 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:18:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902220818q414d69a0m6e433ed23f396882@mail.gmail.com> We use our 4 door pickup as a regular vehicle. Wouldn't be without it. Also, I wouldn't trust any of my neighbors with so much as a blade of my grass!! "Mister Goodwrench" lives north of me. Pure white trash. His tool kit consists of a battery charger and an extension cord. If that doesn't solve his vehicle problems, he pulls them into the back yard and leaves them to take root. Twice I've had to call the city to cite him in order to get the dead vehicles out of his back yard. Long ago we put up a hedge of thick vines to obscure the view from our patio but he started stacking the wreckage higher than the fence! To the south of me I have an entire aboriginal tribe of hispanics. There appears to be some meager relationship between a few of them as extended family. The little house has 3 rooms and I've counted as many as 20 adults and children living there but the residents change on a very regular basis. Several times we've had to shelter young girls who's male relatives have been abusing them. They throw their Corona bottles across the street and into my yard and pee in the street after dark. There is a hispanic men's club that meets on their front porch most nights and I have to ask them to please tone down the noise after 1:00am. They smile and swear at me in Mexican Spanish and then go right on with the racket. Some nights it is entertaining though... when they start shouting and pull out the knives and pistols! Used to be a nice neighborhood. Not anymore. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Lee Fox wrote: > That's why I finally stopped owning pickups. Friends, neighbors and > relatives used it more than me! > Bought a 5x8 trailer that I pull with my 4 cyl. Camry and can do 95% of > what I could with the pickup. > The other 5% I use my neighbor's and he uses my trailer when he doesn't > want to get the truck dirty. > > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 06:24:34 -0800 (PST) > From: David Booker > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show > To: David Riker , Frank Clarici > > Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net > Message-ID: <15213.5301.qm at web36802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Frank Clarici wrote: > > > > 13. When I need a truck, I borrow the neighbors, > > I have a truck and yes the neighbor does borrow it maybe once a year. > hmmmmm. > > Yes, but occassional rentals won't work for you since you use it every day. > I > doubt any of your LBC's (or the Jag for that matter) would be a viable > substitute. Now maybe if you built one of those Spridget pickups... > David Booker > '71 Miget > Long Island From breton48 at live.com Sun Feb 22 09:22:48 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:22:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Borrowed pick up trucks, trailers, etc! In-Reply-To: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: It's not my 1 ton pickup truck my neighbors want to borrow (everyone has one around here), it's my car hauler, or my tractor! Somebody coming this morning to borrow my tractor again... and I have been in Colorado for less than 9 months! I hope that is building me some good will around here 8-) By the way... revisiting the topic of driving on snowy/icy roads. The local here (Front Range area) know how to do it, and for the most, the drivers crashing their vehicles seem to be young kids going too fast for their skills and the road conditions, or out of towners. Black ice can catch anyone though. I know some of you hate SUVs, but they are a lot of them around here and I don't see them in ditches. Following local custom, I had some all season tires with modified siping installed on my Expedition, and that does fine on lightly snow covered roads. I plan to go often to the mountains next winter (skiing), so I'll do what the locals do: buy a set of wheels and studded winter tires just for that purpose. JLC, 7400 feet high in the Black Forest North of Colorado Springs David R. wrote: That's why I finally stopped owning pickups. Friends, neighbors and relatives used it more than me! Bought a 5x8 trailer that I pull with my 4 cyl. Camry and can do 95% of what I could with the pickup. The other 5% I use my neighbor's and he uses my trailer when he doesn't want to get the truck dirty. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 09:27:06 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:27:06 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <713474.96806.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <713474.96806.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> Anybody have any idea of how many different vehicles each American manufacturer builds? I'm not talking about cosmetic variations of the same vehicle. It seems to me they could all save a lot of money by offering one pickup, one sedan, one subcompact, and one truck and not change anything from year to year for about a decade. Let the aftermarket outfits take care of customizing the vehicles. Moreover, the list of options for our Chevy PU takes up about 4 pages!! If they want to stay in business they need to stop doing stupid stuff like that at least until they are in the black again. 3 engine options, one tranny for each engine, standard wheels, standard interiors, standard trim package....etc. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 8:34 AM, David Booker wrote: > They did the exact same thing wth the Allante. Seems I remember that it > finally got the Northstar about the time they killed it. I'm sure there > are > numerous examples of this, but the Fiero and the Allante are right up there > at > the top of the examples of missed opportunities. > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Thomas Jefferson From grunthaner at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 09:43:38 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:43:38 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: <421496.72910.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <421496.72910.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902220843p367ecb99na162be2bd754a278@mail.gmail.com> Thanks List for the info on the clock and yes I only want to hear my little A motor purr when I drive. But I do understand about needing a clock if you are rallying. Mummm ....... road rally let's do it : ) Lastly I never thought for a minuet that LBC was original as I spotted all the crappy mods, but the clock looked British. Lin On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:10 PM, David Booker wrote: > --- On Sat, 2/21/09, David Ramsey wrote: "I assume you > don't enter you car in a lot of Rally's? It is very common to put a clock > in > you car if you're into that kind of driving. > Crash > > > Good point - a rally clock / stopwatch is another thing entirely. I was > assuming somebody just stuck a clock in the dash so they could keep an eye > on > the time (which is counter to what I use a sports car for). I have run > rally > events before, but not in years so that didn't occur to me. > > I would love to run some more rally's, and with my speedometer dancing up > and > down at roughly 1.5 times my actual speed it would certainly add a new > level > of complexity to the task... > > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 22 10:30:38 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:30:38 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > how many different vehicles each American > manufacturer builds? Are you only counting Detroit makers, or all cars built in America? As far as I know, Toyota still uses more American parts and labor than any of the big three. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 10:59:02 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:59:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902220959p5a50e8afjcb4190f2d8d883a8@mail.gmail.com> Billy, It would be interesting to make the comparison. Does Toyota spread their manufacturing capability as thin as GM and the others? I wonder. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > how many different vehicles each American > > manufacturer builds? > Are you only counting Detroit makers, or all cars built in America? > As far as I know, Toyota still uses more American parts and labor than any > of the big three. From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Feb 22 12:41:50 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:41:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> References: <713474.96806.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> Hello Jim, What you advocate is EXACTLY what went wrong in Detroit. (Not that ALL auto makers aren't in trouble right now, except oddly enough SUBARU??) While Toyota and Honda were looking at 3 or 4 year product cycles, constantly improving between times but completely REPLACING with all new, GM and FORD kept making the same car on the same platform. The FOX platform underpinned cars for around TWENTY YEARS. The Frame for the '80's IMPALA ran nearly as long. They both figured "as long as it making a profit, why change?" Because innovative companies were about to eat their lunch, that's why!. Heck the Corvette, at 50 years old, and World Beater that it is, has only had SEVEN platform changes. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "Fire!" yelled Tom alarmingly. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 13:22:39 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:22:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> References: <713474.96806.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902221222m3939cd88n668447b6ba47037b@mail.gmail.com> Bill, True. But that was during good (or relatively good) economic times when consumers could afford to call the tune the industry danced to. Those times are now gone. If those same industries want to survive today, they had better get back to the basics. What will save the auto industry in the gathering storm will be a new VW story. I'm not talking a single platform here, I'm talking a single entire vehicle. A new Model T story. Few people are going to be able to afford to be picky. They are going to want solid, simple, cheap, reliability in the coming world. Look at what happened to the British and Swedish Auto industry in a Social Democracy big government environment. Its going to happen in this country next. Cheers!! Jim On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Bill L wrote: > Hello Jim, > > What you advocate is EXACTLY what went wrong in Detroit. (Not that ALL > auto makers aren't in trouble right now, except oddly enough SUBARU??) > While Toyota and Honda were looking at 3 or 4 year product cycles, > constantly improving between times but completely REPLACING with all > new, > GM and FORD kept making the same car on the same platform. The FOX > platform > underpinned cars for around TWENTY YEARS. The Frame for the '80's > IMPALA > ran nearly as long. They both figured "as long as it making a profit, > why > change?" Because innovative companies were about to eat their lunch, > that's > why!. Heck the Corvette, at 50 years old, and World Beater that it is, > has > only had SEVEN platform changes. > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > "Fire!" yelled Tom alarmingly. > > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From breton48 at live.com Sun Feb 22 13:28:00 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:28:00 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> References: <713474.96806.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> Message-ID: Bill L. wrote: Not that ALL auto makers aren't in trouble right now, except oddly enough SUBARU?? Here in Colorado Springs, we have the largest Subaru dealership in the nation, and you see Subaru all over, especially Outbacks and Foresters. Why? All their cars are four wheel drive and very easy to drive in the snow, they can be fun to drive (have you ever tried a WRX STI?), and they have the (well deserved) reputation of being bullet proof. I am going to buy a Forester for my wife, and I know I will buy new - here they keep their value well, so you don't save enough to buy used over new. That's what I think anyways! JLC From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 22 13:33:18 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:33:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> Message-ID: > They both figured "as long as it making a profit, why > change?" This IS still the Spridgets list, right?? From pythias at pacifier.com Sun Feb 22 13:38:13 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:38:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1395275171.20090222123813@pacifier.com> Hello Billy, yes, it is the SPRIDGETS list..... but it's WINTER!.. Pardon our mess. We'll get to our regularly scheduled topics when SPRING comes.... -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" A conscience does not prevent sin. It only prevents you from enjoying it From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 22 13:48:40 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:48:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> They both figured "as long as it making a profit, why >> change?" > This IS still the Spridgets list, right?? The point was that ALL Spridgets had exactly the same platform for their entire production. From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 14:18:46 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:18:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A1C136.7060509@comcast.net> Lee Fox wrote: > he uses my trailer when he doesn't want to get the truck dirty. > > And THAT is the reason I can't get a manual trans in a new truck. Too many wusses that should have bought a Cadillac instead of a pick up truck. 8 way heated power leather seats do NOT belong in a pick up truck. Pick ups were just big tools when designed, now they are luxury vehicles but some of us still need tools for the job or a way to get materials to the job. I don't put a load of mulch in my Jaguar but I don't think twice about having it dumped in the truck. It washes off. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 14:23:09 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:23:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A1C23D.6000005@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >>> They both figured "as long as it making a profit, why >>> change?" >>> >> This IS still the Spridgets list, right?? >> > > At least we're talking cars this time, not guns, cats, politics, or music. Oh, sorry Billy, you can talk music ;) -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 14:24:43 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:24:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Correct Engine color In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A1C29B.1040401@comcast.net> Jim Founier wrote: > Does anyone know the correct color for a 1970 1275 cc Engine?? > > I think 70 was the change year from Healey mint green to black but I am not sure when during the year. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sun Feb 22 14:31:10 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:31:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Borrowed pick up trucks, trailers, etc! In-Reply-To: References: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I hate SUVs, but not because of lack of "U". It is the implication of "S" that gets so many drivers in trouble. That, and the serious crash incompatibility with any thing not SUV, make me hate SUVs. The crash incompatibility is made even more relevant because many people buy them either to feel tough or to feel safe. The tough motive poses dubious driving care. People who buy to feel safe are often accident prone, and are simply driving a more effective weapon. A more restrictive driver's license, or replacing the plate annually could provide a slight hurdle to annoy lazy drivers out of buying the largest vehicles. Probably not a popular opinion on this list... Drew -----Original Message----- I know some of you hate SUVs, but they are a lot of them around here and I don't see them in ditches. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sun Feb 22 14:47:28 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:47:28 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> References: <713474.96806.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <559E5FFF2639486E851B7AC3E75B6453@AndrewHP> Subaru has one formula (quality, symmetrical AWD, boxer engine, top safety ratings, and good handling/performance) and sticks to it. Subaru has generally been popular with stable middle class people who live both within their means, and in snowy areas. Also, anyone who does not understand why people are brand loyal to Subaru, have obviously never tried to replace a Subaru with something else! Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill L Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:42 PM To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture Hello Jim, What you advocate is EXACTLY what went wrong in Detroit. (Not that ALL auto makers aren't in trouble right now, except oddly enough SUBARU??) From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 22 15:15:24 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:15:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show References: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <49A1C136.7060509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <05A47EDCAA994C4199C6683351B1CF3A@Larry> And THAT is the reason I can't get a manual trans in a new truck. Too many wusses that should have bought a Cadillac instead of a pick up truck. 8 way heated power leather seats do NOT belong in a pick up truck. Pick ups were just big tools when designed, now they are luxury vehicles but some of us still need tools for the job or a way to get materials to the job. I don't put a load of mulch in my Jaguar but I don't think twice about having it dumped in the truck. It washes off. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ Cadillac and Lincoln pickups? Are you kidding me? When, years ago, I first heard Porsche was going to build an SUV, I didn't believe it. Remember when VW introduced the W12 Phaeton? Over $100 large for a VW? Nah. At least Toyota, Nissan and Honda had the good sense to come up with a new brand name when they entered the luxury car market. LAD From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 15:36:04 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:36:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <559E5FFF2639486E851B7AC3E75B6453@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <514431.17840.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Andrew Payne wrote: > people are brand loyal to Subaru, have obviously never > tried to replace a > Subaru with something else! Lord knows I'm trying. Ron From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 22 15:38:56 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:38:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show References: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <49A1C136.7060509@comcast.net> Message-ID: <755120.27359.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Frank, my pickups all had a manual transmission. That kept some of the riff-raff at bay, but not enough of them. To: Lee Fox Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:18:46 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show Lee Fox wrote: > he uses my trailer when he doesn't want to get the truck dirty. > > And THAT is the reason I can't get a manual trans in a new truck. Too many wusses that should have bought a Cadillac instead of a pick up truck. 8 way heated power leather seats do NOT belong in a pick up truck. Pick ups were just big tools when designed, now they are luxury vehicles but some of us still need tools for the job or a way to get materials to the job. I don't put a load of mulch in my Jaguar but I don't think twice about having it dumped in the truck. It washes off. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 15:49:10 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:49:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <308783.51360.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > vehicle. It seems to me they could all save a lot of money > by offering one > pickup, one sedan, one subcompact, and one truck and not > change anything > from year to year for about a decade. Amen. A famous quote about the thought required to simplify and optimize, often attributed to Steinbeck (and several others), went something like this (upon drafting a letter to a friend): "Sorry this letter is so long, but I didn't have time to write a shorter one." GM, especially, needs to write a shorter letter. Ron From mdrowe at optonline.net Sun Feb 22 15:49:20 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:49:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <559E5FFF2639486E851B7AC3E75B6453@AndrewHP> References: <713474.96806.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com> <925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com> <559E5FFF2639486E851B7AC3E75B6453@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <283ED8A4CB5E40B79305A7A8B78F72FE@Home> > Subaru has one formula (quality, symmetrical AWD, boxer engine, top safety > ratings, and good handling/performance) and sticks to it. My wife has an Outback. Every time (no exaggeration) we have taken it into the dealer for any kind of warrantee work, at least one plastic bit has fallen out onto the road within a few miles because the mechanic didn't remember to screw it back on. So Subaru does not have everything right in our neighborhood. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sun Feb 22 16:01:01 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:01:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture References: <713474.96806.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com><43840a7e0902220827r4e441037h14167dc396447c00@mail.gmail.com><925034524.20090222114150@pacifier.com><559E5FFF2639486E851B7AC3E75B6453@AndrewHP> <283ED8A4CB5E40B79305A7A8B78F72FE@Home> Message-ID: <94034137727E444197CBE82776E18D70@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > Subaru has one formula (quality, symmetrical AWD, boxer engine, top safety > ratings, and good handling/performance) and sticks to it. My wife has an Outback. Every time (no exaggeration) we have taken it into the dealer for any kind of warrantee work, at least one plastic bit has fallen out onto the road within a few miles because the mechanic didn't remember to screw it back on. So Subaru does not have everything right in our neighborhood. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ Michael, you can't blame the dealer's mechanics' ineptness on the manufacturer. OK, new thread, were mechanics better when they had to figure everything out themselves on a much simpler car? Or are they better now when they have tons of electronic aids to help them diagnose an infinitely more complex vehicle, but which require a lot more knowledge of electronics? (Like we don't know which way this one is going.) LAD From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sun Feb 22 16:36:53 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:36:53 EST Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show Message-ID: I have a leather seat in my Sprite but no heater in the car let alone the seat - is this OK?? In a message dated 22/02/2009 22:18:07 GMT Standard Time, ladaniels at sbcglobal.net writes: heated power leather seats From andrewpayne at intrex.net Sun Feb 22 16:47:37 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:47:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture Message-ID: Talk to the service manager politely, get a specific tech. Know him(most likely him) by name. Make sure he knows you by name. Ask advice. Bring coffee. He'll know your car, and want it right. He'll want it right because he knows you, not because you'll be a pain in the ass. Take your car there for all service, including some oil changes. They may be more reasonable and thorough if they see you regularly. When someone only sees an item broken, their only job is to fix it. If they see it when it's not broken, their job is to keep it working. Of course there are just crappy dealers. Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: 2/22/09 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > Subaru has one formula (quality, symmetrical AWD, boxer engine, top safety > ratings, and good handling/performance) and sticks to it. My wife has an Outback. Every time (no exaggeration) we have taken it into the dealer for any kind of warrantee work, at least one plastic bit has fallen out onto the road within a few miles because the mechanic didn't remember to screw it back on. So Subaru does not have everything right in our neighborhood. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Sun Feb 22 16:49:04 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:49:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <283ED8A4CB5E40B79305A7A8B78F72FE@Home> References: , <559E5FFF2639486E851B7AC3E75B6453@AndrewHP>, <283ED8A4CB5E40B79305A7A8B78F72FE@Home> Message-ID: <49A173F0.15523.5FEF30@kk7ss.verizon.net> My Subaru developed a flat cam at 6K - never replaced , and then at 18K a short block swap due to bad piston slap, the piston slap was back at 38k - "out of warranty"!! They use a very short skirt slipper piston to reduce friction... !! I now have a Honda for a daily driver with 'Ice' tires for the winter....... On 22 Feb 2009 at 17:49, Michael Rowe wrote: >> > Subaru has one formula (quality, symmetrical AWD, boxer engine, top >> > safety ratings, and good handling/performance) and sticks to it. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Feb 22 16:50:27 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:50:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <514431.17840.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <514431.17840.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A1E4C3.1000300@frontiernet.net> It's the same with Jeep. My Comanche had just under 400,000 trouble free miles when I had to sell him in order to move. The other Cherokee almost 500,000, and the one I kept is not even broken in at 200,000. I'll buy a new one when wing windows are an option. Kate Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Andrew Payne wrote: > >> people are brand loyal to Subaru, have obviously never >> tried to replace a >> Subaru with something else! >> > > Lord knows I'm trying. > > Ron > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Sun Feb 22 16:57:08 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:57:08 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <755120.27359.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <214750.13455.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <49A1C136.7060509@comcast.net> <755120.27359.qm@web83902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A1E654.5040504@frontiernet.net> I have a select group of neighbors who borrow my truck. Two of them even have their own keys. They take it with the tanks 1/2 empty, and bring it home with both tanks full. They're also right here when I need help mending fences or any other job that I won't be able to do until long after my back surgery, which is on again and scheduled for next month. Kate Lee Fox wrote: > Frank, my pickups all had a manual transmission. That kept some of the riff-raff at bay, but not enough of them. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 22 17:39:41 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:39:41 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A173F0.15523.5FEF30@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: > My Subaru developed a flat cam at 6K - never replaced , and then at > 18K a short block swap due to bad piston slap, the piston slap was > back at 38k - "out of warranty"!! Having a daily driver that wasn't a Honda would take too much time away from my other projects. I'm going on twenty years, and still waiting for something to break. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 22 17:40:53 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:40:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I have a leather seat in my Sprite but no heater in the car let alone the > seat - is this OK?? Sure, but where's a good place to get leather seat upholstery? From frog.aye at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 17:57:17 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:57:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: <205cef430902220843p367ecb99na162be2bd754a278@mail.gmail.com> References: <421496.72910.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <205cef430902220843p367ecb99na162be2bd754a278@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140902221657t30bf568amf8587b385bb7f0d@mail.gmail.com> Linda wrote > "but the clock looked British." > Linda, Check out http://www.gaugeguys.com/Smiths/classic.htm Scroll all the way to the bottom. Hal From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 22 18:43:22 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:43:22 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902221657t30bf568amf8587b385bb7f0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My wife gave me a Smith's wall clock for Christmas a few years ago. It looks great, but has always run Intermittently. It always leads to a few Lucas jokes about authenticity, etc. I suppose someday I'll replace the quartz movement. BZ From spritenut at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 19:13:10 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:13:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A20636.4010003@comcast.net> Billy Zoom wrote: >> I have a leather seat in my Sprite but no heater in the car let alone the >> seat - is this OK?? >> > Sure, but where's a good place to get leather seat upholstery? > > > > Walt Downs, but he only uses Connelly hides. I am seriously considering having him do my Speedwell in leather the next time it needs seats which is soon because the seat belt wears out the drivers end panel. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 19:45:50 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:45:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS Message-ID: <621066.29572.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Despite a tire blow-out on the interstate on the way in, it was great to see a bunch of list people as we slowly make our way towards Spring in the Midwest. I hadn't gotten in the door when Tutone threw out the first Python reference (on which I swung and missed). Leib and Chicagoland MG club attracted a good crowd as always. Interestingly, there were a ton of VSCDA guys (literally - at least 200 pounds worth ;-)). Daniels left as I arrived at his booth, naturally. Also present was the Spridgetech vintage race Bugeye that I almost bought and may still someday. For anyone looking, it's a ground-up restoration of a Bugeye with everything new or period correct. Huffaker 948 with Comptune carbs, Haynes dog engagement gearbox ($4000 alone), all metal, vintage correct everywhere. Much, much more - if anyone is interested contact rod at spridgetech at ameritech.net . Asking price is $12,500 and it's worth it. NFI, etc. Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 19:48:29 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:48:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS In-Reply-To: <621066.29572.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <917361.33580.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Ron Soave wrote: > Leib and Chicagoland MG club That was a typo, NOT an Ed moment - that should be LIEB, not Leib. Ron From shop at justbrits.com Sun Feb 22 19:55:45 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:55:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> You. of all folks on the List 'should' know !!!! TiaJaWanna !!!!! From shop at justbrits.com Sun Feb 22 20:01:24 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:01:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902221657t30bf568amf8587b385bb7f0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: < "but the clock looked British." > Linda, Check out http://www.gaugeguys.com/Smiths/classic.htm Scroll all the way to the bottom.>> Nah, Hal !!!! For the "Real Deal": http://tinyurl.com/ausmx2 or http://www.holden.co.uk/displayAgroups.asp?sg=2&pgCode=026&sgName=Hardware&p gName=Timing They used to carry the Heuer(sp?) 'real deal' line of Rally timers, odometers, etc.!! Lin, go for the Pontifa 'pair'!! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 22 21:30:53 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:30:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - new rules In-Reply-To: <49A20636.4010003@comcast.net> Message-ID: I tried to bid on an ebay item today. I asked if the seller would take payment other than PayPal. This is his response: > I wish I could! eBay requires PayPal payment only. Sorry! From dlh2001 at comcast.net Sun Feb 22 21:38:26 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:38:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - new rules References: Message-ID: <785C3DCC0A0A402D9D0667591E78FF2F@blackbox2> And it's a good thing too. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - new rules >I tried to bid on an ebay item today. I asked if the seller would take > payment other than PayPal. > This is his response: >> I wish I could! eBay requires PayPal payment only. Sorry! From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 21:52:41 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:52:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - new rules In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <702109.28963.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Billy Zoom wrote: "eBay requires PayPal payment only. Sorry!" I sold an item a few weeks ago and was able to choose multiple payment types that I would accept. I've always given people the opportunity to pay different ways - even a personal check if they don't mind waiting till it clears the bank. If it is a new rule, it is a very new one. - David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 22 21:54:23 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 20:54:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <917361.33580.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Hello, > Tried to respond through eBay9s proper channels, but they blocked it due to > the impending end of auction. > Just wanted you to know that eBay will not allow any other method of payment. > I wish I could accept checks - we > always did before this new policy! Very sorry. > Sandy at pioneertraders From wbmcleod at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 22:13:02 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:13:02 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com> I sell on ebay daily, and while ebay won't let me list other payment methods in their official payment listing, they have not done anything to actually prevent payment by check. I outline payment methods in the description, wait for the check or M.O. to arrive and clear and then mark the listing on my-ebay as payment received. Then I can hit the "create shipping label" button and am sent to Paypal to make a label as usual. They have claimed that Paypal payment is the only way, but it isn't true. It's just a pain in the butt to work around it. Since Paypal doesn't cover many shipping methods (i.e. First Class Mail to overseas) they can't enforce such a policy. Bill Slightly Classics Tucson Billy Zoom wrote: Hello, Tried to respond through eBay9s proper channels, but they blocked it due to the impending end of auction. Just wanted you to know that eBay will not allow any other method of payment.I wish I could accept checks - we always did before this new policy! Very sorry. Sandy at pioneertrader From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sun Feb 22 23:58:21 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:58:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com> Message-ID: > I sell on ebay daily, a This week? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 01:10:45 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 02:10:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: References: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902230010w57179912y3d05bb28168034eb@mail.gmail.com> Billy, I just listed a bunch of motorcycle stuff on Ebay. In my item description I always offer to accept personal check or money order. Ebay now owns PayPal so they are trying (subtly) to get people to use PayPal by removing the other options from the item listing forms. As someone pointed out however, all a seller need do is specify other payment methods in the description text. Not a big deal - at least from a seller's point of view. I just bought some Banjo parts on Ebay via personal check so it isn't as bad as your seller thinks... Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > I sell on ebay daily, a > This week? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 23 05:44:21 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:44:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS References: <621066.29572.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <916FEE3E497C44A198E8EB558D2BFBF8@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Soave" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:45 PM Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS Daniels left as I arrived at his booth, naturally. Ron _______________________________________________ Don't take it personally, Ron, nobody told me you were coming in the front door as I ran out the back. ;-)) I offed that glass race bonnet to some poor soul -- I mean lucky guy -- and made a deal w/ Rod to trade in the glass rear clip on a stock glass bonnet, so I headed for the hills. Just a reminder, although Ron posted this before, Spridgetech got burglarized a while back and some low life scum stole a bunch of Rod's molds. If anybody hears of a new player trying to sell new fiberglass Spridget bonnets, drop a dime to Rod. LAD From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 06:22:35 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:22:35 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <4ADD259EE31C484082ECD02899B053F5@MAIN> References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <610043938.20090220203700@pacifier.com> <205cef430902210502r71a819feub57a22f8633a48f8@mail.gmail.com> <4ADD259EE31C484082ECD02899B053F5@MAIN> Message-ID: <205cef430902230522v2bceca0axa9a8310eff6da63c@mail.gmail.com> Thanks for doing my homework Dave : ) Lin On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 2:05 AM, David Riker wrote: > The following 2009 model cars are available with manual windows: > > Chevrolet Aveo > Chevrolet Cobalt > Chevrolet Colorado Regular and Extended Cab > Chevrolet Silverado W/T and LS series LD pickups > Chevrolet Express Van > Jeep Compass > Jeep Patriot > Jeep Wrangler > Jeep Wrangler Unlimited > Dodge Caliber > Ford Focus > Ford Ranger > Ford F150 Work Truck > Ford Econoline Van > > Good advice: > 1. Never put a $1000 transmission in a $500 car. It's still a $500 car. > 2. Your old car isn't worth more because it has a new engine. It was worth > nothing UNTIL you put in a new engine. > 3. Never get in a car that is worth less than you spent on the clothes you > are wearing. You could ruin your clothes. > 4. What you owe on your car has nothing to do with what your car is worth. > If you owe $10,000 and it is worth $5,000, it's worth $5,000. If you owe > $2,000 and it's worth $5,000, you wouldn't accept $2,000 for it would you? > 5. If the price seems too good to be true, there probably is a reason. > Once you know the reason, the price is usually just about right. > 6. If you focus on price alone, you will never own an automobile that you > truely love. > 7. It's a whole lot easier to make a $400 payment on a car you love than a > $300 payment on a car you hate. > 8. Don't buy an SUV if your grandkids visit once a year. Rent a van once > a year. Then you don't have to clean it up when they go home. > 9. If you only own a small car, you never have to take the soccer team out > to pizza. > 10. (Similar to 8) Don't buy a pickup if you only need it to go to the > dump once a year. Borrow the neighbors truck. > 11. If you don't own a truck, the neighbor will never be able to ask to > borrow your truck to go to the dump. > 12. Why buy an RV? I've never been to a town without a motel and a > restaurant. > 13. Don't try to own one car that does everything but excells at nothing. > It's better to have several cars that each do one thing well. Me, I have 4 > cars. A sports car, a muscle car, a station wagon, and a sedan. When I > need a truck, I borrow the neighbors, when people visit, I rent an SUV. > > Dave R. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" < > grunthaner at gmail.com> > To: "Bill L" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 5:02 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show > > > Bill, >> I am so with you on the power windows, when I was thinking my 15 year old >> Saturn wagon wouldn't make it through the summer I started pricing cars of >> similar design, and there were no dealers selling new cars with hand crank >> windows. So I got frustrated and looked at all the cars at all the dealers >> and again no hand crank windows on new cars. I decided to go for a 3rd >> transmission and keep my favorite 1st & maybe last new car. From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 06:30:36 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:30:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: References: <682359.8411.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <205cef430902210520w402d1a8ena3df5d8302fa481e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902230530s69881988je85cbfffced94ffa@mail.gmail.com> Very interesting JLC does that make it a posi rear like my brothers GTO was..... just curious not interested in doing it. Lin On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:38 AM, JLC wrote: > Linda, > > > > You really don't want welded axles on a street Spridget. Welded means just > that - the gears inside the differential are actually welded together, and > both rear wheels go around together at the same speed  all the time. You > lose the differential purpose, which is to make the inside rear wheel move > slower that the outside one in a turn. A welded differential is the poor's > man solution to the racing need for a limited slip differential. The > advantage of the welded diff in racing is grip  you have the whole power of > the engine applied to both wheels all the time. > > > > As stated before, a Spridget with a "welded diff" is difficult to move > around at low speed, very hard on the half-shafts (axles), and would be in > my opinion dangerous on the street  if when turning you lift off the > throttle or even worse, use the brakes, you will most likely spin. > > > > JLC > > * * > > * * > > *Linda wrote: *Hi I'm just starting to learn more about the mechanics of > the Sprite and have had my hands on many of their parts as well as replaced > 2 differentials in my 68 Spitfire back in the 80's and own and use both of > my welding units so I have a basic understanding. But when you say welded > rear axle exactly what area is welded and what does that do on a Sprite? > > Thanks in advance, > > Linda From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Mon Feb 23 06:35:58 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:35:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats Message-ID: hey all, My Bugeye is all but finished, (THANKS Frank!) about all I need is seats. chuck c had given me a set of Fiero seats that are very comfortable, but I have a roll bar in mine with a cross brace that precludes me using any high back buckets. The brace won't allow the seat to recline, in fact it puts that back angled forward. Even puts Frank too close to the steering wheel and I'm a bit taller than him. So, since Bugeye seats are scarcer than hens teeth, or outrageously expensive, does anyone know of any lowback seats, either original type or aftermarket, the also tilt forward to allow boot access? I have seen some fixed back seats that I like including a set from minispares that have the Speedwell logo on them(inexpensive too!) But have yet to find any lowback buckets that aren't fixed back. I understand also that later spridget seats won't tilt forward enough to allow good access to the boot either, and have an incorrect sideways tilt to them. TIA Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto ps chuck, if you'd like the Fiero seats back, just lemme know. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.:more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_ 022009 From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 06:38:44 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:38:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902221657t30bf568amf8587b385bb7f0d@mail.gmail.com> References: <421496.72910.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <205cef430902220843p367ecb99na162be2bd754a278@mail.gmail.com> <4333f8140902221657t30bf568amf8587b385bb7f0d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902230538we9b8407rb90cd68c610048f2@mail.gmail.com> Cool is this where the white face instruments I have seen on some Sprites comes from? Cool & unique white face. Frank I should have known you had a clock somewhere on your Speedwell dash : ) Lin On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > > Linda wrote > >> "but the clock looked British." >> > > Linda, > Check out http://www.gaugeguys.com/Smiths/classic.htm > > Scroll all the way to the bottom. > Hal From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Feb 23 06:43:52 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:43:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <312B3A58999649DAA755BABA32CC1398@spider> Use fiberglass bar seat from the 1960's These can be had cheap, and are probably still being molded somewhere. ...bill in oregon ========================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of brian S Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:36 AM To: spridgets list Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats hey all, My Bugeye is all but finished, (THANKS Frank!) about all I need is seats. chuck c had given me a set of Fiero seats that are very comfortable, but I have a roll bar in mine with a cross brace that precludes me using any high back buckets. The brace won't allow the seat to recline, in fact it puts that back angled forward. Even puts Frank too close to the steering wheel and I'm a bit taller than him. So, since Bugeye seats are scarcer than hens teeth, or outrageously expensive, does anyone know of any lowback seats, either original type or aftermarket, the also tilt forward to allow boot access? I have seen some fixed back seats that I like including a set from minispares that have the Speedwell logo on them(inexpensive too!) But have yet to find any lowback buckets that aren't fixed back. I understand also that later spridget seats won't tilt forward enough to allow good access to the boot either, and have an incorrect sideways tilt to them. TIA Brian S. Bugeyeracer under resto ps chuck, if you'd like the Fiero seats back, just lemme know. _________________________________________________________________ From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 06:54:06 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:54:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> Brian, Too bad the Porsche 550 Spiders or 356 Speedster seats are so expensive they would look sweet in your Bugeye Racer : ) see here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=709077 Lin On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM, brian S wrote: > hey all, > > My Bugeye is all but finished, (THANKS Frank!) > about all I need is seats. > chuck c had given me a set of Fiero seats that are very comfortable, > but I have a roll bar in mine with a cross brace that precludes > me using any high back buckets. > The brace won't allow the seat to recline, > in fact it puts that back angled forward. > Even puts Frank too close to the steering wheel and I'm a bit > taller than him. > So, since Bugeye seats are scarcer than hens teeth, > or outrageously expensive, does anyone know of any > lowback seats, either original type or aftermarket, > the also tilt forward to allow boot access? > I have seen some fixed back seats that I like including a set > from minispares that have the Speedwell logo on them(inexpensive too!) > But have yet to find any lowback buckets that aren't fixed back. > I understand also that later spridget seats won't tilt forward enough > to allow good access to the boot either, and have an incorrect > sideways tilt to them. > TIA > > > Brian S. > > Bugeyeracer under resto > > ps chuck, if you'd like the Fiero seats back, just lemme know. > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Hotmail.: more than just e-mail. > > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_explore_ > 022009 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From frogeye at cox.net Mon Feb 23 06:55:00 2009 From: frogeye at cox.net (Alan) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:55:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: bugeye /early seats Message-ID: <3260C7CEF2D04D059D2D6A5232B6D96A@maind> Brian and all, I have had several pairs of early seat pans done by a voch school shop in the area They are twice the gauge as the stock ones and fit the frames perfectly. I was tired of the outrageous prices I was seeing in Moss and VB each year. I have sheetmetal backs and frames and sliders as well If your considering a seat do over or don't have any , get back to me via email offlist frogeye at cox.net Thanks Alan From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Feb 23 07:08:21 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:08:21 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye with a dash clock?........................................eBay 160317224542 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, if you're buying, ED, send me the set. Otherwise, I think that I have to stick with the cellphone. RD ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Ed's Shop" Nah, Hal !!!! For the "Real Deal": http://tinyurl.com/ausmx2 or http://www.holden.co.uk/displayAgroups.asp?sg=2&pgCode=026&sgName=Hardware&p gName=Timing They used to carry the Heuer(sp?) 'real deal' line of Rally timers, odometers, etc.!! Lin, go for the Pontifa 'pair'!! From grunthaner at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 07:12:29 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:12:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] nice 63 Sprite on craigslsit for 2K Message-ID: <205cef430902230612j57fe5e4q5f1807c1260fa503@mail.gmail.com> List 63 Sprite on craigslist with 1275 motor only bill of sale. http://asheville.craigslist.org/cto/1014206011.html Lin From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 07:17:09 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 06:17:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: <205cef430902230530s69881988je85cbfffced94ffa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <312154.7840.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Very interesting JLC does that make it a posi rear Lin, No, posi is a limited slip as I described in my post. Ron From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Feb 23 07:41:54 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:41:54 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] nice 63 Sprite on craigslsit for 2K In-Reply-To: <205cef430902230612j57fe5e4q5f1807c1260fa503@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: OMG!! It's been skinned! :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: Linda Grunthaner To: spridgets list Subject: [Spridgets] nice 63 Sprite on craigslsit for 2K Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:12:29 -0500 List 63 Sprite on craigslist with 1275 motor only bill of sale. http://asheville.craigslist.org/cto/1014206011.html Lin From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Feb 23 07:45:17 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:45:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay References: <312154.7840.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2077D0492B8A417D81AF00F9A9629D84@NilesAD.von.gov> > No, posi is a limited slip as I described in my post. To expand a little more, "posi" in this context is technically an abbreviation of "positraction" which is a Chevrolet trademark for the clutch-type LSD they developed 40 years or so ago. Like "xerox", it has become a generic term. Nonetheless, a welded diff goes WAY beyond an LSD. David Lieb From breton48 at live.com Mon Feb 23 07:51:20 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:51:20 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: <205cef430902230530s69881988je85cbfffced94ffa@mail.gmail.com> References: <682359.8411.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <205cef430902210520w402d1a8ena3df5d8302fa481e@mail.gmail.com> <205cef430902230530s69881988je85cbfffced94ffa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Linda wrote: Very interesting JLC does that [welded diff] make it a posi rear like my brothers GTO was..... just curious not interested in doing it. Linda, Not quite. as Ron said, a limited slip diff comes in a variety of forms, some torque sensing (TORSEN) usually using hydraulics, and the old fashion type with cones or/and clutches. Most LSD diffs use clutches, friction plates, cones and/or gears to reduce the slippage between the powered wheels. They usually need some special type of fluid or additive to the oil used for the gears. The advantage of the LSD is increased traction on slippery conditions, inconvenients are accelerated tire wear and, for the clutch type, chattering when going around corners. What your brother has in his GTO is most likely an "Eaton Locker" in his car, which actually locks the gears in slippery conditions. I have an Eaton Locker in my one ton truck. It goes one step beyond the conventional LSD diff by not only reducing slippage between the powered wheels, but actually locking the spyder gears when traction is reduced or lost - just like a "welded diff". It does need special oil or an additive to regular gear oil, and it does suffer from "chattering" when locked and going around a corner - the same affect than I had in my racing Bugeye with the welded diff. The diff cannot let one wheel go around faster than the other, hence the "chattering" (one wheel kinds of "skips around" the corner), and that also causes the increase in tire wear. JLC From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Mon Feb 23 08:28:56 2009 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Update from a Lurker (formerly very acitve) Message-ID: <1487349413.1652321235402936033.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Just an update from a most-of-the-time lurker but still interested Spridgeteer. The last time I corresponded with the list, other than a short reply or two, was a year or so ago, when I lamented about not being able to find a short (or other cause) that keeps my turn signals/brake lights from working, and thus my not being able to drive, going on 2-years now, my 1979 Midget. For now, it is sitting out in the driveway with whatever protection its ill-fitting tonneau cover gives it. I would like to get back to the task at hand this Spring and get it back on the road. I may end up selling it because I have had some knee problems in the past year that really cause problems getting in and out (or as I like to say, putting on and taking off) of the car. Anyway, I am not at that point yet--would just like to get it working properly and back on the road. It has a freshly overhauled tranny and the engine was freshened less than 2000 miles ago (An engine I bought on ebay and refreshed it with cylinder conditioning, rear bearing pinning, new rings and bearings, and new seals and timing chain). It needs a little rust touch-up work, some body filler repair (old body filler that the DPO put in it and has cracked or loosened), and a paint job real bad. Too bad there isn't an OSHIT team down here in East Tennessee. These things go much faster and easier when there are other knowledgeable and able folks to lean on. But alas, we don't have the sort of great comaraderie (sp) that exists in the PA/NJ circle among Sprite/Midget owners/drivers. The trips I have taken in the past to Kevin's old Tamaqua rallies have been thoroughly enjoyable and I have always been impressed with the huge amount of support, both moral and mechanical, those guys up there give one another (you know who your are--If I try to remember names I will surely leave someone or some few out). But you are one great bunch of guys. Anyway, not asking for anything--the last time I received a lot of great suggestions--I just have not been out there in the driveway crawling around to implement them. Again, I hope to get to that in a month or so. Thanks to the list for being there--I will probably be sending out more questions as I go. 8^) David C. From wbmcleod at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 08:43:38 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:43:38 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] A pair of lbc's in Tucson Message-ID: <49A2C42A.2090405@gmail.com> There is a local Mercedes shop owner who has a 67 Sprite and a 71 wire wheel Midget sitting out back. The Sprite was nearly completed with a fresh engine and new paint when he quit working on it, but has been sitting in the sun watching the paint peel for years now. The Midget has all the pieces, and then some, sitting around except the engine/trans. Both cars are desert cars with no apparent rust and are quite straight. Don't know about titles.... Presumably there are some. I stopped by to ask about the cars, which I have known about for years, and was surprised to see them looking so forlorn! He is asking $1200 for the pair.... A couple of years ago I would have snapped them up, but no more. No other info, NFI. Regards, Bill From davriker at nwi.net Mon Feb 23 08:52:54 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:52:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay References: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com> <43840a7e0902230010w57179912y3d05bb28168034eb@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> Depending on the catagory, Ebay may or may not permit different payment methods. If the item for sale is in a catagory that does not allow alternate payment methods other than paypal, Ebay can cancel the listing if you add alternate payment methods to the description. Currently, it looks like most items in ebay motors still allow alternate payment methods. Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/ms8tm Here's the summary: Payment methods not allowed on eBay: Sellers can't ask buyers to: a.. Mail them cash b.. Send cash or money orders through instant cash transfer services (non-bank, point-to-point cash transfers) like Western Union or MoneyGram c.. Mail checks or money orders (except for items in categories specifically permitted above) d.. Pay through bank-to-bank transfers (except for items in categories specifically permitted above) e.. Pay by "topping off" of a seller's prepaid credit or debit card f.. Payment using online payment methods not specifically permitted in this policy g.. Payment using payment methods not listed in this policy Dave R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 12:10 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More Ebay > Billy, > > I just listed a bunch of motorcycle stuff on Ebay. In my item description > I > always offer to accept personal check or money order. Ebay now owns PayPal > so they are trying (subtly) to get people to use PayPal by removing the > other options from the item listing forms. As someone pointed out however, > all a seller need do is specify other payment methods in the description > text. Not a big deal - at least from a seller's point of view. I just > bought > some Banjo parts on Ebay via personal check so it isn't as bad as your > seller thinks... > > Cheers!! > Jim From wbmcleod at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 09:09:50 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:09:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> References: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com> <43840a7e0902230010w57179912y3d05bb28168034eb@mail.gmail.com> <035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> Message-ID: <49A2CA4E.3030200@gmail.com> I recently (last week) sold a mac laptop with the check or money order verbiage in the description. No repercussions. I repeat.... Ebay cannot prevent you from accepting cash or Nigerian scam checks if you don't tell them about it. That said, they did once pull an ad which specified cash as a payment medium ( I had revived an old ad template and reworked it ), so I suppose they might get around to it. David Riker wrote: > Depending on the catagory, Ebay may or may not permit different > payment methods. If the item for sale is in a catagory that does not > allow alternate payment methods other than paypal, Ebay can cancel the > listing if you add alternate payment methods to the description. > Currently, it looks like most items in ebay motors still allow > alternate payment methods. Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/ms8tm > > Here's the summary: > > Payment methods not allowed on eBay: > > Sellers can't ask buyers to: > > a.. Mail them cash > > b.. Send cash or money orders through instant cash transfer services > (non-bank, point-to-point cash transfers) like Western Union or MoneyGram > > c.. Mail checks or money orders (except for items in categories > specifically permitted above) > > d.. Pay through bank-to-bank transfers (except for items in > categories specifically permitted above) > > e.. Pay by "topping off" of a seller's prepaid credit or debit card > > f.. Payment using online payment methods not specifically permitted > in this policy > > g.. Payment using payment methods not listed in this policy > > Dave R. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 23 09:27:56 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:27:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay References: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com><43840a7e0902230010w57179912y3d05bb28168034eb@mail.gmail.com><035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> <49A2CA4E.3030200@gmail.com> Message-ID: Perhaps, somebody should show eBay the front of a piece of our currency where it says, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill McLeod" To: "David Riker" Cc: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More Ebay I recently (last week) sold a mac laptop with the check or money order verbiage in the description. No repercussions. I repeat.... Ebay cannot prevent you from accepting cash or Nigerian scam checks if you don't tell them about it. That said, they did once pull an ad which specified cash as a payment medium ( I had revived an old ad template and reworked it ), so I suppose they might get around to it. David Riker wrote: > Depending on the catagory, Ebay may or may not permit different > payment methods. If the item for sale is in a catagory that does not > allow alternate payment methods other than paypal, Ebay can cancel the > listing if you add alternate payment methods to the description. > Currently, it looks like most items in ebay motors still allow > alternate payment methods. Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/ms8tm > > Here's the summary: > > Payment methods not allowed on eBay: > > Sellers can't ask buyers to: > > a.. Mail them cash > > b.. Send cash or money orders through instant cash transfer services > (non-bank, point-to-point cash transfers) like Western Union or MoneyGram > > c.. Mail checks or money orders (except for items in categories > specifically permitted above) > > d.. Pay through bank-to-bank transfers (except for items in > categories specifically permitted above) > > e.. Pay by "topping off" of a seller's prepaid credit or debit card > > f.. Payment using online payment methods not specifically permitted > in this policy > > g.. Payment using payment methods not listed in this policy > > Dave R. You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Feb 23 09:47:17 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:47:17 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: That would be a good way to tell the counterfeits from the real stuff then, eh? :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Larry Daniels" Perhaps, somebody should show eBay the front of a piece of our currency where it says, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." ----- Original Message ----- From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 23 09:53:11 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:53:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay References: Message-ID: eh? Is that a Candian thing? Hey, do you know the McKenzie brothers? ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More Ebay That would be a good way to tell the counterfeits from the real stuff then, eh? :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Larry Daniels" Perhaps, somebody should show eBay the front of a piece of our currency where it says, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." ----- Original Message ----- You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tinydog at snet.net Mon Feb 23 09:57:03 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:57:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <240113.68377.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog interjected: As sellers, I would be more concerned with the changes in feedback policy, than how I was getting paid. --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Larry Daniels wrote: ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Larry Daniels" Perhaps, somebody should show eBay the front of a piece of our currency where it says, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Mon Feb 23 09:57:50 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:57:50 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: LD! That would be the Canadian "eh". Forget the McKenzie brothers! Did ya know the sisters? :) RD ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Larry Daniels" eh? Is that a Candian thing? Hey, do you know the McKenzie brothers? ED ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Duquette" To: Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More Ebay That would be a good way to tell the counterfeits from the real stuff then, eh? :) ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Larry Daniels" Perhaps, somebody should show eBay the front of a piece of our currency where it says, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and private." ----- Original Message ----- You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Feb 23 10:00:34 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:00:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: References: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com> <43840a7e0902230010w57179912y3d05bb28168034eb@mail.gmail.com> <035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> <49A2CA4E.3030200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <62D54BF7C3F848D69CCEC28E5CF1848F@Home> > Perhaps, somebody should show eBay the front of a piece of our currency > where it says, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and > private." They may do whatever they want, so long as it is legal. It is their choice, not ours. All we can do is refuse to deal with them. There is a lot of power in numbers, so stop complaining and refuse to deal with them. There is no alternative, you say? Make one and get rich. How about software that searches All selected states on Craig's list (or some other large selection criterion like distance)? The Google method only finds other people's searches, and not always those. I have tried searching a state, then seeing if Google will find my search, and it does not. I don't know how Google gets its searches of Craig's List. Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite in process Long Island, NY From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Feb 23 10:09:55 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:09:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <62D54BF7C3F848D69CCEC28E5CF1848F@Home> References: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com><43840a7e0902230010w57179912y3d05bb28168034eb@mail.gmail.com><035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> <49A2CA4E.3030200@gmail.com> <62D54BF7C3F848D69CCEC28E5CF1848F@Home> Message-ID: What he said. It is their sales site and the average customer can lump it. They have cut their staff back. Anything short of illegal activities is met with a ho-hum. We could build our own site, with all the downsides; ie. customers complaining. ...bill in oregon ============================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:01 AM To: Spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] More Ebay > Perhaps, somebody should show eBay the front of a piece of our currency > where it says, "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and > private." They may do whatever they want, so long as it is legal. It is their choice, not ours. All we can do is refuse to deal with them. There is a lot of power in numbers, so stop complaining and refuse to deal with them. There is no alternative, you say? Make one and get rich. How about software that searches All selected states on Craig's list (or some other large selection criterion like distance)? The Google method only finds other people's searches, and not always those. I have tried searching a state, then seeing if Google will find my search, and it does not. I don't know how Google gets its searches of Craig's List. Michael Rowe '74 Midget '60 Sprite in process Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Feb 23 10:11:35 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:11:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <240113.68377.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > As sellers, I would be more concerned with the changes in feedback policy, > than how I was getting paid. You don't mind that they're lowering the sale price by excluding bidders? I'm not allowed to use PayPal any more because my Ebay purchases have exceeded $10,000 That's NOT the way to reward your best customers. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Feb 23 10:13:01 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:13:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <62D54BF7C3F848D69CCEC28E5CF1848F@Home> Message-ID: > How about software that searches All selected states on Craig's list findnearby.net From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Feb 23 10:35:43 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:35:43 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Here's what I did to fit my 6-foot male frame into one of the last Spridgets; bar stool seat from the 1960's. ...bill in oregon http://www.97330.com/seat_barStool.html ========================================================================= On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM, brian S wrote: > hey all, > > My Bugeye is all but finished, (THANKS Frank!) > about all I need is seats. > chuck c had given me a set of Fiero seats that are very comfortable, > but I have a roll bar in mine with a cross brace that precludes > me using any high back buckets. > The brace won't allow the seat to recline, > in fact it puts that back angled forward. > Even puts Frank too close to the steering wheel and I'm a bit > taller than him. > So, since Bugeye seats are scarcer than hens teeth, > or outrageously expensive, does anyone know of any > lowback seats, either original type or aftermarket, > the also tilt forward to allow boot access? > I have seen some fixed back seats that I like including a set > from minispares that have the Speedwell logo on them(inexpensive too!) > But have yet to find any lowback buckets that aren't fixed back. > I understand also that later spridget seats won't tilt forward enough > to allow good access to the boot either, and have an incorrect > sideways tilt to them. > TIA > Brian S. From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Feb 23 10:38:45 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:38:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unified Field Theory - No LCB content Message-ID: <2D8D0355534349D09AC1BDBDEEE4A814@Home> I found the following while cleaning a shelf. No LCB content, but universal applicability. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY Unified Field Theory In the beginning there was Aristotle, And objects at rest tended to remain at rest, And objects in motion tended to come to rest, And soon everything was at rest, And God saw that it was boring. Then God created Newton, And objects at rest tended to remain at rest, But objects in motion tended to remain in motion, And energy was conserved and momentum was conserved and matter was conserved, And God saw that it was conservative. Then God created Einstein, And everything was relative. And fast things became short, And straight things became curved, And the universe was filled with inertial frames, And God saw that it was relatively general, but some of it was especially relative. Then God created Bohr, And there was the principle, And the principle was quantum, And all things were quantified, But some things were still relative, And God saw that it was confusing. Then God was going to create Furgeson, And Furgeson would have unified, And he would have fielded a theory, And all would have been one, But it was the seventh day, And God rested, And things at rest tend to remain at rest. This was attributed to Tim Joseph at Cornell, many years ago. I don't know the actual origin. From proefrock at comcast.net Mon Feb 23 10:42:01 2009 From: proefrock at comcast.net (Jim Proefrock) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:42:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <26EA9C71-7E8B-4310-87E4-A94775E781E9@comcast.net> He wants seats with seatbacks that can tilt forward, allowing access to the boot. Otherwise, there are dozens of kart racing seats available that are *way* nicer than the awesome bar stool seat . . . Just one example: http://www.tillett.co.uk/index.asp On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:35 AM, wrote: > Here's what I did to fit my 6-foot male frame into one of the last > Spridgets; bar stool seat from the 1960's. ...bill in oregon > > http://www.97330.com/seat_barStool.html > > > > ====================================================================== > === > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM, brian S wrote: > > > >> hey all, > >> > >> My Bugeye is all but finished, (THANKS Frank!) > >> about all I need is seats. > >> chuck c had given me a set of Fiero seats that are very comfortable, > >> but I have a roll bar in mine with a cross brace that precludes > >> me using any high back buckets. > >> The brace won't allow the seat to recline, > >> in fact it puts that back angled forward. > >> Even puts Frank too close to the steering wheel and I'm a bit > >> taller than him. > >> So, since Bugeye seats are scarcer than hens teeth, > >> or outrageously expensive, does anyone know of any > >> lowback seats, either original type or aftermarket, > >> the also tilt forward to allow boot access? > >> I have seen some fixed back seats that I like including a set > >> from minispares that have the Speedwell logo on them(inexpensive >> too!) > >> But have yet to find any lowback buckets that aren't fixed back. > >> I understand also that later spridget seats won't tilt forward enough > >> to allow good access to the boot either, and have an incorrect > >> sideways tilt to them. > >> TIA > >> Brian S. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as proefrock at comcast.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Feb 23 10:50:19 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:50:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] One Nation unified theory.. In-Reply-To: <2D8D0355534349D09AC1BDBDEEE4A814@Home> References: <2D8D0355534349D09AC1BDBDEEE4A814@Home> Message-ID: <4E6E79F5-7415-4098-A83F-355297D504B6@comcast.net> Sent to me by a retired military friend... Yeah, I'm *THAT* conservative.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk Lester From snhochberg at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 10:52:30 2009 From: snhochberg at gmail.com (Sam H) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:52:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet Message-ID: <9d4f61f00902230952y60399d30u89cd968a9915fe8a@mail.gmail.com> Son of a gun! I'm more a lurker than a poster, but had I known this was a chance to meet so many posters (or imposters) I'd have spoken up. Yes, this was a good swap meet, perhaps more because I actually found most of all the parts I was looking for ('68 Sprite) than the size of the show. I only live a mile from there so it's an annual rite of passage whether I need anything or not. I recognized David L. from his shoes but didn't have a chance to chat. I may have spoken to others of you without even realizing it! Next year, could y'all bring some "Hello, My Name Is... tags? I spent most of the day either scrounging around or hanging out at the AHCA and BCU tables. Oh, yeah, and of course the requisite visit to Burt Levy's table. Next year we should coordinate a meetup location, or all wear foil hats, or something... ...Sam Hochberg '68 Sprite '73 um, German thing. From bighealey at charter.net Mon Feb 23 10:52:35 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 9:52:35 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <62D54BF7C3F848D69CCEC28E5CF1848F@Home> Message-ID: <20090223125235.4DMM5.1260733.root@mp17> Michael, There are numerous sites with the ability to search all of Craig's List including all the states. The one I used is called the Mash by Jaxed. http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/sd.cgi?cat=pts or just go to jaxed.com and choose the Mash Tracy > How about software that searches All selected states on Craig's list (or > some other large selection criterion like distance)? From bighealey at charter.net Mon Feb 23 10:54:01 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 9:54:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090223125401.V2LCW.1260850.root@mp17> Try jaxed.com choose the MASH ---- Billy Zoom wrote: > > How about software that searches All selected states on Craig's list > findnearby.net > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Feb 23 10:57:11 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:57:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! Message-ID: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> I finally finished the Morris pickup that sat in front of the Holy Spirite last summer. I got the shell right after I got back from LotO and drove it to work today. http://tinyurl.com/cgvvoa 1275 engine, single 1.75" SU on Howley manifold, Datsun 5-sp, 4.2 rear end, power disc brakes, 1-wire alternator, Mini heater/defroster, modified Mistubishi truck seat, Chevy Vega wheels, 11 gal VW gas tank, and a loud stereo with I-pod cable. All welding, body work and painting done poorly by me. This is the first LBC that I totally built from scratch, so I'm grinning from ear to ear today. Glen Byrns From bighealey at charter.net Mon Feb 23 10:58:09 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 9:58:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> Message-ID: <20090223125809.VYXE5.1261132.root@mp17> The best way to Pay is to use your VISA card. If you remove the bank account and deplete the PayPal balance it lets you pay with your card. Since VISA has a zero liability policy they will provide you with a way to get money back for deals gone bad where as Ebay cannot and will not protect buyers, only sellers. just my experiance after years of active eBaying From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 11:06:31 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:06:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Unified Field Theory - No LCB content In-Reply-To: <2D8D0355534349D09AC1BDBDEEE4A814@Home> References: <2D8D0355534349D09AC1BDBDEEE4A814@Home> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902231006j2e4229abre1a1fb99d5d723dd@mail.gmail.com> Thanks, Mike! Being a physics geek too, I really laughed at this one! I'm going to get some mileage out of it! Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: > I found the following while cleaning a shelf. No LCB content, but > universal applicability. > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY > > Unified Field Theory > In the beginning there was Aristotle, > And objects at rest tended to remain at rest, > And objects in motion tended to come to rest, > And soon everything was at rest, > And God saw that it was boring. > > Then God created Newton, > And objects at rest tended to remain at rest, > But objects in motion tended to remain in motion, > And energy was conserved and momentum was conserved and matter was > conserved, > And God saw that it was conservative. > > Then God created Einstein, > And everything was relative. > And fast things became short, > And straight things became curved, > And the universe was filled with inertial frames, > And God saw that it was relatively general, but some of it was especially > relative. > > Then God created Bohr, > And there was the principle, > And the principle was quantum, > And all things were quantified, > But some things were still relative, > And God saw that it was confusing. > > Then God was going to create Furgeson, > And Furgeson would have unified, > And he would have fielded a theory, > And all would have been one, > But it was the seventh day, > And God rested, > And things at rest tend to remain at rest. > > > This was attributed to Tim Joseph at Cornell, many years ago. I don't know > the actual origin. From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Feb 23 11:11:10 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:11:10 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: <26EA9C71-7E8B-4310-87E4-A94775E781E9@comcast.net> References: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> <26EA9C71-7E8B-4310-87E4-A94775E781E9@comcast.net> Message-ID: <225FED4E799C47669B27C02C610A9A1F@Home> >there are dozens of kart racing seats available These look really good for sideways support, which is lacking in my seats. The question then is, if they are mounted so they tilt forward from the front attachment point, do they free up enough room to access the boot? A simple alternative is to install them with wing nuts, so they come out readily. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 11:20:46 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:20:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] One Nation unified theory.. In-Reply-To: <4E6E79F5-7415-4098-A83F-355297D504B6@comcast.net> References: <2D8D0355534349D09AC1BDBDEEE4A814@Home> <4E6E79F5-7415-4098-A83F-355297D504B6@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902231020o343d05eepafd135b737050aa5@mail.gmail.com> Me too, Lester. Me too. Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Lester wrote: > Sent to me by a retired military friend... > > Yeah, I'm *THAT* conservative.. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk > > Lester From corvallis at peoplepc.com Mon Feb 23 11:22:21 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:22:21 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: <225FED4E799C47669B27C02C610A9A1F@Home> References: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com><26EA9C71-7E8B-4310-87E4-A94775E781E9@comcast.net> <225FED4E799C47669B27C02C610A9A1F@Home> Message-ID: My attachment is the seatbelt ...when I'm in there. ...bill ======================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael Rowe Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:11 AM To: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats >there are dozens of kart racing seats available These look really good for sideways support, which is lacking in my seats. The question then is, if they are mounted so they tilt forward from the front attachment point, do they free up enough room to access the boot? A simple alternative is to install them with wing nuts, so they come out readily. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY _______________________________________________ From pelliott at innercite.com Mon Feb 23 11:31:14 2009 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:31:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <04ca01c995e4$e98d3f40$bca7bdc0$@com> Here's an old pair of midget seats in Jersey, http://tinyurl.com/cwm58d From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 11:37:21 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:37:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! In-Reply-To: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902231037m397ae4a8l8bec623906b66426@mail.gmail.com> Glen, It looks incredible!! Well done! You have every right to be immensely proud of your work! Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > I finally finished the Morris pickup that sat in front of the Holy Spirite > last summer. I got the shell right after I got back from LotO and drove it > to > work today. > http://tinyurl.com/cgvvoa > > 1275 engine, single 1.75" SU on Howley manifold, Datsun 5-sp, 4.2 rear end, > power disc brakes, 1-wire alternator, Mini heater/defroster, modified > Mistubishi truck seat, Chevy Vega wheels, 11 gal VW gas tank, and a loud > stereo with I-pod cable. All welding, body work and painting done poorly > by > me. This is the first LBC that I totally built from scratch, so I'm > grinning > from ear to ear today. > > Glen Byrns From jimndi at frontiernet.net Mon Feb 23 11:38:08 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Founier) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:38:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seats Message-ID: <76B2225C2E164B3288980F91BC8E3F80@MAINCOMPUTER> Last summer I came across a husband and wife team who were making the old bomber seats. They were beautifully done. My buddy ordered a pair for a Model B Pickup truck. They look like they would go nicely in a spridget. The backs fold forward as original. Any color or style was available. I think they are in the midwest? From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 23 11:38:31 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:38:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! References: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <76EEB06DA1654828916BA3ECCFE1BA2C@Larry> Looks great, Glen!! Congratulations. LAD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glen Byrns" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:57 AM Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! I finally finished the Morris pickup that sat in front of the Holy Spirite last summer. I got the shell right after I got back from LotO and drove it to work today. http://tinyurl.com/cgvvoa 1275 engine, single 1.75" SU on Howley manifold, Datsun 5-sp, 4.2 rear end, power disc brakes, 1-wire alternator, Mini heater/defroster, modified Mistubishi truck seat, Chevy Vega wheels, 11 gal VW gas tank, and a loud stereo with I-pod cable. All welding, body work and painting done poorly by me. This is the first LBC that I totally built from scratch, so I'm grinning from ear to ear today. Glen Byrns You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 11:43:08 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:43:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Unified Field Theory - No LCB content In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902231006j2e4229abre1a1fb99d5d723dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <494040.45945.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > Thanks, Mike! Being a physics geek too, I really laughed at > this one! I'm > going to get some mileage out of it! Ah, geek humor - youse guys are bringing back memories of undergrad days - I remember having to explain to the other physics majors that their Star Trek lunch boxes had a lot to do with the fact that they couldn't get dates.... Ron From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Mon Feb 23 11:44:08 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:44:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! In-Reply-To: <76EEB06DA1654828916BA3ECCFE1BA2C@Larry> References: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <76EEB06DA1654828916BA3ECCFE1BA2C@Larry> Message-ID: <2719A902-E4BD-4932-976B-AD1090252AFF@comcast.net> Very nice man!! Lester On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:38 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Looks great, Glen!! > > Congratulations. > > > LAD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glen Byrns" > To: "Spridgets" > Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:57 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! > > > I finally finished the Morris pickup that sat in front of the Holy > Spirite > last summer. I got the shell right after I got back from LotO and > drove it > to > work today. > http://tinyurl.com/cgvvoa > > 1275 engine, single 1.75" SU on Howley manifold, Datsun 5-sp, 4.2 > rear end, > power disc brakes, 1-wire alternator, Mini heater/defroster, modified > Mistubishi truck seat, Chevy Vega wheels, 11 gal VW gas tank, and a > loud > stereo with I-pod cable. All welding, body work and painting done > poorly by > me. This is the first LBC that I totally built from scratch, so I'm > grinning > from ear to ear today. > > Glen Byrns From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Feb 23 11:47:58 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:47:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Ebay - new rules In-Reply-To: <702109.28963.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <702109.28963.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6EB5847F-7BDF-4DFC-AA53-6D0880766995@mac.com> I have also used, seen different payment methods. It may be the only method this seller wants to use or understood they could use since e- bay and paypal are one. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 22, 2009, at 8:52 PM, David Booker wrote: > --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Billy Zoom wrote: > "eBay requires PayPal payment only. Sorry!" > > > I sold an item a few weeks ago and was able to choose multiple > payment types > that I would accept. I've always given people the opportunity to pay > different ways - even a personal check if they don't mind waiting > till it > clears the bank. If it is a new rule, it is a very new one. > - David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 11:48:22 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:48:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Unified Field Theory - No LCB content In-Reply-To: <494040.45945.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0902231006j2e4229abre1a1fb99d5d723dd@mail.gmail.com> <494040.45945.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902231048h1ba5b036xd4df383144ae5fea@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > > Thanks, Mike! Being a physics geek too, I really laughed at > > this one! I'm > > going to get some mileage out of it! > > Ah, geek humor - youse guys are bringing back memories of undergrad days - > I remember having to explain to the other physics majors that their Star > Trek lunch boxes had a lot to do with the fact that they couldn't get > dates.... You mean it wasn't the black frame glasses, pocket protectors and the slide rule case on my belt?!! -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From mark at nashvilletn.org Mon Feb 23 11:48:47 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:48:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye seats References: <76B2225C2E164B3288980F91BC8E3F80@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <0C1AC235202E42CC8D619A6D5F23E4BA@CT> Contact Tim Kruso in Dayton Ohio. He makes some nice seats that should fit in a Bugeye. I had him make and install leather covers for my car in 07. crusoiii at msn.com is the last email address I have for him. Does list some of his stuff on ebay from time to time. Good Guy to work with. Mark Nashville http://www.ArrestMeRed.com From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 23 11:48:20 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:48:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] One Nation unified theory.. References: <2D8D0355534349D09AC1BDBDEEE4A814@Home> <4E6E79F5-7415-4098-A83F-355297D504B6@comcast.net> Message-ID: Thomas Paine would be rolling over in his grave to see that attributed to him. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lester" Cc: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: [Spridgets] One Nation unified theory.. Sent to me by a retired military friend... Yeah, I'm *THAT* conservative.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk Lester You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From breton48 at live.com Mon Feb 23 11:50:46 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:50:46 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! In-Reply-To: <2719A902-E4BD-4932-976B-AD1090252AFF@comcast.net> References: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> <76EEB06DA1654828916BA3ECCFE1BA2C@Larry> <2719A902-E4BD-4932-976B-AD1090252AFF@comcast.net> Message-ID: Wow!... this truck looks VERY nice indeed! Well done! JLC From tequila.brad at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 11:51:04 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:51:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: <04ca01c995e4$e98d3f40$bca7bdc0$@com> References: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> <04ca01c995e4$e98d3f40$bca7bdc0$@com> Message-ID: Those are like the ones in our 68 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Patrick Elliott wrote: > Here's an old pair of midget seats in Jersey, http://tinyurl.com/cwm58d > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Feb 23 11:55:39 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 10:55:39 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! In-Reply-To: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <2EDFFBEC-13F4-427E-BA1E-CBB66EB57C07@mac.com> Glen, IT looks great. I like the amber turn light lens on the front. What / where did you get the lens? Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 23, 2009, at 9:57 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > I finally finished the Morris pickup that sat in front of the Holy > Spirite > last summer. I got the shell right after I got back from LotO and > drove it to > work today. > http://tinyurl.com/cgvvoa > > 1275 engine, single 1.75" SU on Howley manifold, Datsun 5-sp, 4.2 > rear end, > power disc brakes, 1-wire alternator, Mini heater/defroster, modified > Mistubishi truck seat, Chevy Vega wheels, 11 gal VW gas tank, and a > loud > stereo with I-pod cable. All welding, body work and painting done > poorly by > me. This is the first LBC that I totally built from scratch, so > I'm grinning > from ear to ear today. > > Glen Byrns > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Feb 23 12:02:56 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:02:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay References: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com><43840a7e0902230010w57179912y3d05bb28168034eb@mail.gmail.com><035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> <49A2CA4E.3030200@gmail.com> <62D54BF7C3F848D69CCEC28E5CF1848F@Home> Message-ID: <3F7F8AAEAC89409EBF8CDA9D763E836C@NilesAD.von.gov> > How about software that searches All selected states on Craig's list (or > some other large selection criterion like distance)? The Google method > only finds other people's searches, and not always those. I have tried > searching a state, then seeing if Google will find my search, and it does > not. I don't know how Google gets its searches of Craig's List. Please note that to "multi-location" searches on Craig's List is a violation of their policies. If they find one of these sites you are mentioning that searches Craig's List, they will send out a cease & desist letter. Since Goolge is not singling out Craig's List, there isn't much that CL can do about them. No, Michael, when you go to Google and enter site:craigslist.org followed by your search terms, you are NOT "finding other people's searches", you are searching all of Craig's List's site for those terms. Not easy to narrow it down, however, so it effectively takes one form of tedium and replaces it with another. David Lieb From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Feb 23 12:28:51 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:28:51 EST Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show Message-ID: In the USA I have no idea, in the UK I can recommend a specialist trimmer. In a message dated 23/02/2009 00:41:11 GMT Standard Time, billyzoom at billyzoom.com writes: Sure, but where's a good place to get leather seat upholstery? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Feb 23 12:34:41 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:34:41 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay Message-ID: TorSen usually uses gears. Any diff with a limited action using 'hydrualics' sounds more like a viscous coupling. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 23/02/2009 14:51:33 GMT Standard Time, breton48 at live.com writes: some torque sensing (TORSEN) usually using hydraulics, From breton48 at live.com Mon Feb 23 12:41:25 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:41:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You are correct. I should not have sent that email as I made a couple of technical whoppers writing it! JLC Welake-Monza wrote: TorSen usually uses gears. Any diff with a limited action using 'hydrualics' sounds more like a viscous coupling. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Feb 23 13:01:42 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:01:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay References: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com> <43840a7e0902230010w57179912y3d05bb28168034eb@mail.gmail.com> <035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> <49A2CA4E.3030200@gmail.com> <62D54BF7C3F848D69CCEC28E5CF1848F@Home> <3F7F8AAEAC89409EBF8CDA9D763E836C@NilesAD.von.gov> <6BAC1B71DF06483CB1FCEA377604438B@Home> Message-ID: <56E99B791F0241E997608B3042C6BCB7@NilesAD.von.gov> > No, Michael, when you go to Google and enter site:craigslist.org >> followed by your search terms, you are NOT "finding other people's >> searches", you are searching all of Craig's List's site for those terms. > > I am unconvinced of this. I have found things directly on Craig's List > that did not appear on a Google search. Just means that Google had not re-indexed that part of that site since the ad was posted. You are actually arguing on my side of the issue here. David Lieb From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Feb 23 13:04:40 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:04:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Do any of you modify the holes so the back tilts further back. That looks fairly simple. BZ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Feb 23 13:22:10 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:22:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <20090223125809.VYXE5.1261132.root@mp17> Message-ID: > just my experiance after years of active eBaying They no longer let you do that. I think a lot of you don't understand, because they grandfather current Ebayers through when they change the rules. It's a different Ebay today. You MUST use PayPal, you MUST link PayPal to your bank account, you must NOT set up a second account to fool Ebay...they track your account activity to make sure it's your main account. I was OK with having PayPal linked to my Visa card, but they only let you do that until you total $10,000. After that, you MUST have a joint bank account with them. I can no longer buy or sell. That's my punishment for having been a good customer. BZ From bpazur at excel.net Mon Feb 23 13:27:25 2009 From: bpazur at excel.net (Bud Pazur) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:27:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Unified Field Theory - no LCB Message-ID: <200902232027.n1NKRPs8003766@green.excel.net> How bout this for a last verse: And then God created (John) Bell And Bell's Theorem of Entangled States Said, lo, the speed of light is now a non-factor Information, transferred instantaneously Unmitigated, unmediated, across any distance - Teleportation! And God said "Chew on this a while" But no one would, or could. Until lately. Bud Pazur From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Mon Feb 23 13:30:00 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:30:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I can recommend a specialist trimmer. My Spanish isn't good enough to tell them exactly what I want. From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 13:36:06 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:36:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] GM, etc Message-ID: <37dc82d40902231236o2d1a7eaatdce07fd13e445433@mail.gmail.com> What impact has the cost of the Union had on all of this in terms of not only hourly wages, benefits, but retirement outlay as well? I am not against Unions, nor for them in all cases. My question is neutral. Kirk 59 BE PS I bought a new Chevy truck in 2001. It is the little Extreme based on GM's small truck chassis. KInd of a kids car, but it looked pretty cool. Factory lowered by two inches. . . wide tires and a large V6, 4.2 I believe. Limited slip. . . fun little truck. I know have 102k miles on it and I have to say that it was built just as well as any Japanese car I have ever owned. It has given me very little trouble. Some small things like the rear 3rd door latch breaking, which they took care of under warranty. I did lose the fuel pump which is a pricey situation. But I was also running the tank on low too often which might have been a factor. I am very pleased with the quality that went into this thing. Most of my miles have also been freeway mileage. From bighealey at charter.net Mon Feb 23 13:36:49 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (bighealey at charter.net) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:36:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <3F7F8AAEAC89409EBF8CDA9D763E836C@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <20090223153649.FKTN6.613249.root@mp07> The ones I use search both CL and Ebay thus working around that rule. ---- David Lieb wrote: > > How about software that searches All selected states on Craig's list (or > > some other large selection criterion like distance)? The Google method > > only finds other people's searches, and not always those. I have tried > > searching a state, then seeing if Google will find my search, and it does > > not. I don't know how Google gets its searches of Craig's List. > > Please note that to "multi-location" searches on Craig's List is a violation > of their policies. If they find one of these sites you are mentioning that > searches Craig's List, they will send out a cease & desist letter. Since > Goolge is not singling out Craig's List, there isn't much that CL can do > about them. No, Michael, when you go to Google and enter site:craigslist.org > followed by your search terms, you are NOT "finding other people's > searches", you are searching all of Craig's List's site for those terms. Not > easy to narrow it down, however, so it effectively takes one form of tedium > and replaces it with another. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bighealey at charter.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Mon Feb 23 13:39:13 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:39:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay References: <20090223153649.FKTN6.613249.root@mp07> Message-ID: > The ones I use search both CL and Ebay thus working around that rule. And the Senate just didn't ask Roland Burris the right questions... From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 13:51:36 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:51:36 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's Message-ID: <37dc82d40902231251o2cd2a2aes334b461c69e839bd@mail.gmail.com> Really, how many people in my state, California, really use their 4 wheel drive option? I talk to people who buy these things and hear all the time that they never engage 4 wheel drive. So what is the big thing about having to have 4 wheel drive when it never gets any use? And from what I understand, if you do not engage your 4 wheel drive once in a while, they can go out more frequently which equals a huge repair bill for something that the person never needed in the first place! Unless you are headed to Tahoe on a regular basis, or you are into 4 wheel events, then the idea of having to have this feature eludes me. Also, chains on Tahoe work fine. I used to snow ski up there on a weekly basis. Never had issues when simply using chains. And yet I have seen 4 wheel drives skidding off the road under black ice conditions because the owner didn't think that they needed chains, even with snow tires. I confess that I did own a big Jeep 4 wheel drive, Wagoneer type, 2000 model, something like that. However, I also owned a very heavy boat and had difficulty pulling it up slippery ramps with my two wheel drive. I would engage 4 wheel low and could tow that boat out of any of the worst ramps you could imagine. So I guess I contradict myself. Must be that all of these 4 wheel drive people own large heavy boats. I will stick to the small lightweight car that presents a real driving experience, my Bugeye with 1275, Weber and all the fun upgrades I have had the pleasure of doing to it. Kirk 59 BE PS Last night coming back from Subway sandwhiches in my BE, top up, with the rain coming down, headlights showing their beem down the road doing a whopping 40 MPH, and the sound of that 1275 through the headers and Monza exhaust- I was transported as though I was driving down the Mulsane straight in the 24 hours of Le Mans (as seen on so many You Tube videos). The best way to go out and grab a Subway sandwich I can think of! To me, no more fun car to drive than a Spridget! And we all understand the joy of such a pure visceral driving experience! From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 13:56:55 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 12:56:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question Message-ID: <37dc82d40902231256j17abac04k6f51d4d4c9800bca@mail.gmail.com> Someone on the list at one time explained how SU carbs make up for the fact that they do not have accelerator pumps. Something to do with the rise rate of the piston when under acceleration. I forget the discussion. Can someone/s jump in and describe this phenomenon again? Kirk 59 BE From pythias at pacifier.com Mon Feb 23 15:05:55 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:05:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902231256j17abac04k6f51d4d4c9800bca@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902231256j17abac04k6f51d4d4c9800bca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <486977703.20090223140555@pacifier.com> Hello Kirk, It has to do with the rate of rise of the piston. ... the carbs operate atmospherically. when you press on the pedal, you're opening the butterfly valve. This allows the engine to SUCK more. ..the There is an air channel that is arranged so that when this suck is increased, the piston to which the needle is attached rises, allowing both more air, (from the air cleaner) and more gas (because you've pulled the needle out of the jets) to flow. You can't flood the carbs because they only deliver as much air/fuel as the engine will suck... no to the point. the oil in the damper limits the RATE of rise of the piston. This limits the amount of air that can flow sucking relatively more gas from the jet, causing an increase in the richness of the mixture during acceleration. When the engine again achieves relative equilibrium the distance of the piston out of the jet (and thus the amount of gas flowing) and the flow of air are stoichiometrically in balance. (theoretically) if this isn't true someone will, i'm sure, correct me. .. PLEASE! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Taken as a whole, the universe is absurd From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Feb 23 15:13:40 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:13:40 EST Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's Message-ID: Maybe there just isn't the mud or snow they require? In a message dated 23/02/2009 20:51:56 GMT Standard Time, khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: Really, how many people in my state, California, really use their 4 wheel drive option? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Mon Feb 23 15:12:06 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:12:06 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Racing Bugeye on eBay Message-ID: It's hard to condense a subject as big as diffs into a single e-mail - it was close enough. TorSen is actually a registered trade mark so other predominantly gear based diffs that might be considered torque sensing having to be advertised as something else like the Quaife Automatic Torque Biassing (ATB). In a message dated 23/02/2009 19:41:36 GMT Standard Time, breton48 at live.com writes: You are correctb& I should not have sent that email as I made a couple of technical whoppers writing it! JLC Welake-Monza wrote: TorSen usually uses gears. Any diff with a limited action using 'hydrualics' sounds more like a viscous coupling. From mdrowe at optonline.net Mon Feb 23 16:01:04 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:01:04 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Unified Field Theory - no LCB In-Reply-To: <200902232027.n1NKRPs8003766@green.excel.net> References: <200902232027.n1NKRPs8003766@green.excel.net> Message-ID: <23A4F10EFCA747609B90F57C4B86AA05@Home> So why didn't God repeat, "Strange!" Michael Rowe From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 16:15:54 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:15:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] More Ebay In-Reply-To: <035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> References: <49A2305E.9020609@gmail.com> <43840a7e0902230010w57179912y3d05bb28168034eb@mail.gmail.com> <035C901B5C1F4DC88375482428B271F1@MAIN> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0902231515qca274d5x1094898346e21634@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:52 AM, David Riker wrote: > Depending on the catagory, Ebay may or may not permit different payment > methods. If the item for sale is in a catagory that does not allow > alternate payment methods other than paypal, Ebay can cancel the listing if > you add alternate payment methods to the description. Currently, it looks > like most items in ebay motors still allow alternate payment methods. Here's > the link: http://tinyurl.com/ms8tm > Complaining about it here only allows for us to vent. If you disagree with the terms of their new "PayPal only" policy why not let THEM know by using the link at the bottom of the page linked above and telling them the page was NOT helpful and why you feel that way. It may not make any difference ... but then again, if enough people complained directly to them, it might. Myself, so far I've never had an issue paying using PayPal (I haven't sold anything on eBay, yet) but I still think the option of using other payments methods should be between buyer and seller, not dictated solely by eBay. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Feb 23 16:31:20 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:31:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] ???? Message-ID: Sorry to bomb Lists, but does anybody have Personal contact with Paul Archibald ?? I know he is not currently on Autox List and can't figure out how to find out on Yahoo. His addy book has been hijacked by a Trojan!!! TIA. ! Ed From breton48 at live.com Mon Feb 23 16:45:40 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:45:40 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: In a message dated 23/02/2009 20:51:56 GMT Standard Time, khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: Really, how many people in my state, California, really use their 4 wheel drive option? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't know, but I knew some who did when I lived in Lakeside, East of San Diego. They used to go four wheeling with their trucks or SUVs in the desert a lot, and so did I. Apart from a couple of destroyed tires (sidewall damage), and a few encounters with rocks where the rocks won and the bodywork lost, I had great fun! Before I knew better, I did get a six months old Izuzu Trooper stuck in the mud right in the middle of the "Borrego sink", so aptly named! The top 1" or so of the soil is quite hard and dry, so you venture on the trail... and promptly sink the four wheels in the mud underneath! The Trooper was about as big as is sensible for the local trails. There were places where a small Jeep could go through, but not a Trooper (too wide to drive between the trail's rock walls). I do know many owners in So Cal have SUVs or trucks because they like the image, and they don't use them in four wheel drive or/and off road. You can buy many SUVs without four wheel drive, right? My neighbour's daughter had a Ford Explorer when she was in high school. It was a 4x4 with "California lift" (the front lifted higher than the back). Her father told me she did not really like to drive it, as she found it difficult to see over the raised front end, "tippy" in turns... but she liked the image! JLC From millerls at ado13.com Mon Feb 23 17:19:31 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:19:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS References: <621066.29572.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: "Huffaker 948 with Comptune carbs" Speaking of Comptune carb, does anybody know the going price for a pair? Larry Miller From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 17:20:19 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:20:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902231620l19dacd1clf7f90b1973e7cdb2@mail.gmail.com> I have a new set of seats which look very much like these, only tan in color. Moss Mtrs if I remember correctly. Will be in our ported, Turbo Rotary Bugeye eventually. Herb On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:54 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > Brian, > Too bad the Porsche 550 Spiders or 356 Speedster seats are so expensive > they > would look sweet in your Bugeye Racer : ) > see here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=709077 > > Lin From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 17:22:31 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:22:31 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS In-Reply-To: References: <621066.29572.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902231622l4d79c112gd6ff9ca823a4c33f@mail.gmail.com> Don't have a clue on the carbs, but I have a Huffaker 948. From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 17:24:19 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:24:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <935175.9344.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Do you want Comptune, or the best currently available? --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > From: Larry & Sandi Miller > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS > To: soavero at yahoo.com, "Spridgets" > Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:19 PM > "Huffaker 948 with Comptune carbs" > > Speaking of Comptune carb, does anybody know the going > price for a pair? > > Larry Miller From froggi60 at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 17:24:42 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:24:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! In-Reply-To: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> References: <3E8EC127939144A3A87AE13771C56072@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902231624k771fe867gab61097a9b2a41@mail.gmail.com> We better not see it on ebay any time soon!!! From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 17:27:38 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:27:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902231256j17abac04k6f51d4d4c9800bca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <540591.80779.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Someone on the list at one time explained how SU carbs make > up for the fact > that they do not have accelerator pumps. a few weeks ago tinydog's list mate ronsoave drooled: --- Dean Hedin wrote... ...a good explanation. A couple of clarifying points - > when the butterflys go wide open. The delayed rise is a > result of the damper (and > naturally the viscosity of the oil in the damper). Also, the resistance to the piston rising is greater than the resistance to the piston falling. > the engine draws more fuel through the main jet. Just to clarify if you're wondering how the needle "not rising" increases the fuel flow, the piston damping increases the velocity of the air across the venturi and the bridge. The rate of fuel flow is directly proportional to the velocity of the air, so you get a richening effect. I can't tune an SU worth a damn, though. The ones on my race car were set up by Craig Chima and I was told not to touch them. My 1970 Midget has the SUs as they came out of the factory, and my street Bugeye has a Weber! Ron From millerls at ado13.com Mon Feb 23 17:28:55 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:28:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS References: <621066.29572.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10902231622l4d79c112gd6ff9ca823a4c33f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79DA84744970455297E5EE79ECFFFB75@HP> So do I, with close ratio rib cage tranny. ----- Original Message ----- From: WFO Herb To: Larry & Sandi Miller Cc: soavero at yahoo.com ; Spridgets Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS Don't have a clue on the carbs, but I have a Huffaker 948. From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Mon Feb 23 17:29:17 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:29:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! Message-ID: <200902240029.n1O0TH0v028925@diometes.ucdavis.edu> If you do, send condolences to my widow. > We better not see it on ebay any time soon!!! From millerls at ado13.com Mon Feb 23 17:30:26 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:30:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS References: <935175.9344.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7716E0A7350341ECBED05B1607807D7F@HP> Neither, I was thinking more of the historic value.... My cars all have Weber's. > Do you want Comptune, or the best currently available? From stargazer1 at cox.net Mon Feb 23 17:45:10 2009 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:45:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A34316.1040400@cox.net> JLC wrote: > In a message dated 23/02/2009 20:51:56 GMT Standard Time, > khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: > > Really, how many people in my state, California, really use their 4 wheel > drive option I guess our answer is yes and less: We live in Poway, just northeast of San Diego. When we moved down here, we owned a '72 Landcruiser. Wonderful off-road vehicle; plenty of clearance, and the running gear was strong enough to tolerate almost anything. We took it offroad in the desert, and other places, and really liked getting our camping gear into isolated places. However, it was getting too small for 3 young children, and wasn't the most pleasant thing on the freeway. We were also suffering from chronic carb, clutch, and valve problems. So, we sold it and bought a Suburban from my cousin. The 'burby had pretty much everything we could ever want; 4WD, 3 seats, auxiliary air conditioner, and barn doors. It had 4 wheel drive, but we found ourselves using it less as time went by. When we replaced the Suburban, we went with a 2 wheel drive Xterra because we just didn't feel the need for 4x4, and the extra few miles per gallon were going to pay off over the life of the truck. Now days, I'm hauling more surfboards and scuba gear than camping stuff and telescopes. So, I think it's fair to say our usage changed a lot. My kids grew up so I'm not hauling nearly as many of those either. Besides, my wife claims she can drive a 2WD/LSD through most places as well as a 4WD with an average driver. She seems to be able to demonstrate this fact on demand too. :-) Cheers, Dave From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Mon Feb 23 17:47:59 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:47:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Subject: Re: finsihed the truck!! References: Message-ID: <563799.10074.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Fantastic job Glen. Congratulations!! Lee On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Glen Byrns wrote: > I finally finished the Morris pickup that sat in front of the Holy Spirite > last summer. I got the shell right after I got back from LotO and drove it > to > work today. > http://tinyurl.com/cgvvoa > > 1275 engine, single 1.75" SU on Howley manifold, Datsun 5-sp, 4.2 rear end, > power disc brakes, 1-wire alternator, Mini heater/defroster, modified > Mistubishi truck seat, Chevy Vega wheels, 11 gal VW gas tank, and a loud > stereo with I-pod cable. All welding, body work and painting done poorly > by > me. This is the first LBC that I totally built from scratch, so I'm > grinning > from ear to ear today. > > Glen Byrns - From bmwwxman at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 18:30:30 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:30:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's In-Reply-To: <49A34316.1040400@cox.net> References: <49A34316.1040400@cox.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902231730q825fc84gffe1d44d04d3dcc8@mail.gmail.com> I dunno... To us folks here in fly-over, 4x4 comes in pretty handy year round for getting chow out to the cattle, pulling fence, pulling calves, moving hay bales, hauling dirt or gravel....etc. The idea of using one for "recreation" is a little foreign to us. We tend to look at them as work horses rather than play toys. Cheers!! Jim - In west Kansas cattle country On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:45 PM, David Ambrose wrote: > JLC wrote: > >> In a message dated 23/02/2009 20:51:56 GMT Standard Time, >> khargreaves2 at gmail.com writes: >> >> Really, how many people in my state, California, really use their 4 wheel >> drive option >> > I guess our answer is yes and less: > > We live in Poway, just northeast of San Diego. When we moved down here, we > owned a '72 Landcruiser. Wonderful off-road vehicle; plenty of clearance, > and the running gear was strong enough to tolerate almost anything. > > We took it offroad in the desert, and other places, and really liked > getting our camping gear into isolated places. > > However, it was getting too small for 3 young children, and wasn't the most > pleasant thing on the freeway. We were also suffering from chronic carb, > clutch, and valve problems. So, we sold it and bought a Suburban from my > cousin. > > The 'burby had pretty much everything we could ever want; 4WD, 3 seats, > auxiliary air conditioner, and barn doors. It had 4 wheel drive, but we > found ourselves using it less as time went by. > > When we replaced the Suburban, we went with a 2 wheel drive Xterra because > we just didn't feel the need for 4x4, and the extra few miles per gallon > were going to pay off over the life of the truck. > > Now days, I'm hauling more surfboards and scuba gear than camping stuff and > telescopes. So, I think it's fair to say our usage changed a lot. My kids > grew up so I'm not hauling nearly as many of those either. > > Besides, my wife claims she can drive a 2WD/LSD through most places as well > as a 4WD with an average driver. She seems to be able to demonstrate this > fact on demand too. :-) > > Cheers, > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From cbking at alum.rpi.edu Mon Feb 23 18:37:49 2009 From: cbking at alum.rpi.edu (Chris King) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:37:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Update from a Lurker (formerly very acitve) Message-ID: <10d6d01c99620$80a97980$0168010a@mail2world.com> So who's up for a trip to Tennessee? -=Chris Chris King http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ <-----Original Message-----> >From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net [dlancer7676 at comcast.net] >Sent: 2/23/2009 10:30:56 AM >To: spridgets at autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Update from a Lurker (formerly very acitve) > >Just an update from a most-of-the-time lurker but still interested Spridgeteer. > >The last time I corresponded with the list, other than a short reply or two, was >a year or so ago, when I lamented about not being able to find a short (or other >cause) that keeps my turn signals/brake lights from working, and thus my not >being able to drive, going on 2-years now, my 1979 Midget. For now, it is >sitting out in the driveway with whatever protection its ill-fitting tonneau >cover gives it. > >I would like to get back to the task at hand this Spring and get it back on the >road. I may end up selling it because I have had some knee problems in the past >year that really cause problems getting in and out (or as I like to say, putting >on and taking off) of the car. Anyway, I am not at that point yet--would just >like to get it working properly and back on the road. It has a freshly >overhauled tranny and the engine was freshened less than 2000 miles ago (An >engine I bought on ebay and refreshed it with cylinder conditioning, rear >bearing pinning, new rings and bearings, and new seals and timing chain). It >needs a little rust touch-up work, some body filler repair (old body filler that >the DPO put in it and has cracked or loosened), and a paint job real bad. > >Too bad there isn't an OSHIT team down here in East Tennessee. These things go >much faster and easier when there are other knowledgeable and able folks to lean >on. But alas, we don't have the sort of great comaraderie (sp) that exists in >the PA/NJ circle among Sprite/Midget owners/drivers. The trips I have taken in >the past to Kevin's old Tamaqua rallies have been thoroughly enjoyable and I >have always been impressed with the huge amount of support, both moral and >mechanical, those guys up there give one another (you know who your are--If I >try to remember names I will surely leave someone or some few out). But you are >one great bunch of guys. > >Anyway, not asking for anything--the last time I received a lot of great >suggestions--I just have not been out there in the driveway crawling around to >implement them. Again, I hope to get to that in a month or so. Thanks to the >list for being there--I will probably be sending out more questions as I go. 8^) > >David C. >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >You are subscribed as cbking at alum.rpi.edu > >http://www.team.net/archive > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >. From shop at justbrits.com Mon Feb 23 18:50:39 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:50:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! In-Reply-To: <200902240029.n1O0TH0v028925@diometes.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: << If you do, send condolences to my widow. > We better not see it on ebay any time soon!!! >> Or at LEAST a GOOD SIZE donation to her "Defense Fund" !!! LAD From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 18:51:10 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:51:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS Message-ID: <62489.98960.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Larry & Sandi Miller wrote: > > Do you want Comptune, or the best currently available? OK - historically, $300 in good shape, $500 perfect, race ready. The set that is on Rod's Bugeye were in with a bunch of MGB carbs and the owner seller had no idea what the "COMPTUNE" sticker meant, and Dave Craddock paid either $50 or $75, I forget. Shrewd me - I saw a bonnet at the show that I sold a few years ago going for $100 more than I sold it for ;-). Ron From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 18:52:08 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:52:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <906095.99254.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Ed's Shop wrote: > > > We better not see it on ebay any time soon!!! > >> > > Or at LEAST a GOOD SIZE donation to her "Defense > Fund" !!! And if you do put it on ebay, you can call me "high bidder". From soavero at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 18:53:38 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:53:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS In-Reply-To: <62489.98960.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <608363.24863.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Ron Soave wrote: > ready. The set that is on Rod's Bugeye were in with a > bunch of MGB carbs and the owner seller had no idea what the > "COMPTUNE" sticker meant, and Dave Craddock paid Oh - and that was at last year's Chicagoland swap meet. Many of us on this list walked by them over and over without paying attention! Ron From breton48 at live.com Mon Feb 23 18:57:14 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:57:14 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's In-Reply-To: <49A34316.1040400@cox.net> References: <49A34316.1040400@cox.net> Message-ID: Dave wrote: my wife claims she can drive a 2WD/LSD through most places as well as a 4WD with an average driver. She seems to be able to demonstrate this fact on demand too. :-) ---------------------------------------------- I think most drivers will do very well in snow and slippery conditions with a front wheel drive car. Worse off are the drivers of high powered rear wheel drive cars with an open diff and little weight on the rear... I vividly remember a 1973 Ford Capri with a 289 Ford stuffed in it trying to go up a hill in snowy Derbyshire! That was long before the advent of traction control and electronic stability control, now offered under so many names by various manufacturers. Your wife is right. I wonder if we need four wheel drive on a road car at all, now that many cars are fitted with LSD diffs, traction and electronic stability control, much better suspensions and tires than even fifteen years ago. My experience of four wheel drive vehicles is that they give you an edge for starting off (better traction), but not for turning or stopping. Off road though, the clearance of a 4x4 truck or SUV, and the four wheel drive extra traction, that helps! I forgot how important tires were though. I recently drove a two wheel drive pickup with Blizzak winter tires on the snow, and the difference with my own pickup on all season tires surprised me. It's not only the design of the tread, but the very pliable, soft rubber composition of the winter tires that makes the difference. My all season tires were rock hard in the cold. My only 4x4 and my only SUV is my Expedition, and that will from now only be used to go to the mountains in winter. It is too old to have stability control (I think they started that in 2003 for the Expy), but I have not crashed it in over 10 years of ownership...touch wood! High clearance, lots of space for skis and stuff, four wheel drive and snow tires to cope with the conditions off road, and as I don't drive it much nowadays, putting fuel in it does not hurt my wallet too much! It's stock except for a brake controller (for my twin axle car trailer) and high intensity headlights. JLC 1970 Lotus Seven S4 Twin Cam - fun roadster, out for a "blat" at least once a fortnight, no matter how cold it is 1975 Bricklin SV1 (being fixed more often than driven) - gull wing oddity 1992 Chevrolet Silverado 1 ton, extended cab, long bed - hauling, trailering the tractor and implements 1998 Ford Expedition 4x4 Eddie Bauer - "Mountain Cruiser", trailering (Lotus and Bricklin) 2000 Chevrolet Astro Van - "dogmobile" for vet and "dog show" trips, wife's "shopmobile" From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Feb 23 19:51:56 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 02:51:56 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question Message-ID: Purrfect! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Bill L Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:05 PM To: Kirk Hargreaves Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question Hello Kirk, It has to do with the rate of rise of the piston. ... the carbs operate atmospherically. when you press on the pedal, you're opening the butterfly valve. This allows the engine to SUCK more. ..the There is an air channel that is arranged so that when this suck is increased, the piston to which the needle is attached rises, allowing both more air, (from the air cleaner) and more gas (because you've pulled the needle out of the jets) to flow. You can't flood the carbs because they only deliver as much air/fuel as the engine will suck... no to the point. the oil in the damper limits the RATE of rise of the piston. This limits the amount of air that can flow sucking relatively more gas from the jet, causing an increase in the richness of the mixture during acceleration. When the engine again achieves relative equilibrium the distance of the piston out of the jet (and thus the amount of gas flowing) and the flow of air are stoichiometrically in balance. (theoretically) if this isn't true someone will, i'm sure, correct me. .. PLEASE! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Taken as a whole, the universe is absurd You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From pilotrob at webtv.net Mon Feb 23 20:05:04 2009 From: pilotrob at webtv.net (Robert E. Shlafer) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 03:05:04 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] finsihed the truck!! Message-ID: What a cool l'il truck! Nice job, Glen...way to go! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) From shop at justbrits.com Mon Feb 23 20:47:31 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:47:31 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> You somewhat have it right JL, but you are DEAD wrong !! LOL er, unless my almost 600bhp at rear wheels '70 Camino does NOT 'fit' your description??? But it IS only a 'small block'!! Enquiring minds need to know!!!! Ed PS: And outta the 9 (in a row) Caminos I have owned the absolute PIG was the bone stock 350cid/350 auto '80 and the 'worser' was the '65 396cid/4 speed with 722bhp at rear wheels which I spent a month or so in Spfld., IL driving on pure ICE. Ice was a PITA tho. From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Feb 23 21:44:28 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:44:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] It Runs Again Message-ID: I pulled the Bugeye out of the garage today just because it turned out to be a real nice afternoon when it did not rain like they said it would. I have not touched the car since parking it in the garage when I got back from the 50th celebration over six months ago. I turned the key, pulled the choke and it fired right up! Have to hand it to Gerard for building the short block so well and David Anton for the head work. It is a sweet 1275. Drove around after I gave her a bath and got the standard thumbs up and appreciative looks. My first stop was the gas station. One guy came over to look at the car and it turns out he has 14 Healeys! He said he has a couple of Bugeyes, some 100s, 3000s and a couple of Westlands. He was driving a Toyota Camry, so I don't know whether he really owns all those cars or just wishes he did. He said he know some of the same Healey people in the area. He said Curt Tanner is a good friend of his. While that is no endorsement to brag about (another story for another time), he went on and on about some other people that restore Healeys I know in the area. Anyway it was a great drive. I just kept driving long after it got dark because I was having so much fun. I am so glad I own this car. I have loads of fun in it and I get to know people like you guys on the list. I didn't think about the recession all day! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From wmgilroy at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 21:46:56 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:46:56 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the auto show In-Reply-To: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <63190.21185.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A37BC0.1060906@gmail.com> It has been a tough year for everyone but Subaru posted an increase. Gotta love this press release. http://www.leasemobileofsonora.com/news/newshome/subaru-of-america-only-manufacturer-to-post-increase-in-sales-for-2008/ Ron Soave wrote: > McCormick place was like a morgue relative to previous years. The sadness and uneasiness was palpable. I spoke at some length to several reps of various companies, including BMW and Honda, and it's universal. It's definitely not as simple as "the US companies have cars no one wants to buy"; No one wants to buy ANYONE'S cars. Hopefully the US companies can restructure so they can weather the future somehow. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Mon Feb 23 22:00:29 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:00:29 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] It Runs Again References: Message-ID: <66B1053E70D844BF88172C2C5EA6BF45@blackbox2> It's just a recession then? Whew! ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" Subject: [Spridgets] It Runs Again > I didn't think about the recession all day! > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Mon Feb 23 22:13:20 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:13:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] It Runs Again In-Reply-To: <66B1053E70D844BF88172C2C5EA6BF45@blackbox2> References: <66B1053E70D844BF88172C2C5EA6BF45@blackbox2> Message-ID: Well, that is until inflation sets in. Mike MacLean On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > It's just a recession then? Whew! > ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" < > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> > Subject: [Spridgets] It Runs Again > > > I didn't think about the recession all day! >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bkitterer at mac.com Mon Feb 23 23:56:34 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:56:34 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a part Message-ID: <750B0F65-7F6E-449A-A3A7-C375DB1BD3E1@mac.com> Hi Folks, Am looking for the ninety degree bracket that goes between the radiator mount and the passenger side wheel well, heater duct intake mounts below this bracket. If anyone has one they will part with let me know what kind of deal we can make. Thanks Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Feb 24 00:52:51 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:52:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Philly Swap Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A3A753.8050200@gmail.com> Have a beer for me afterwards. Larry Macy wrote: > For those that will be asking ;-) > > ANNUAL BRITISH CAR FLEA MARKET > > BUY SELL SWAP > > > > Hosted By Philadelphia MG Club > > > > Sunday, March 29th 2009 > > 8:00 am  1:00 pm > > Location: Steves Complete Car Care > > 6904 Castor Ave., Philadelphia, PA 19149 > > > Dust off all your automotive goodies: Parts, Signs, Books, Toys, > Jewelry, Magazines, Tools, Models, Pictures, Manuals, Ads, and any > related British related automobilia. > > > > VENDORS - $10 PER SPACE > > Refreshments available > > > > Contact Information: > > Chuck Miller (267) 241-9554 [porsh911t at comcast.net] > > Steve Pilla (267) 767-8150 [1sccc at verizon.net] > > > > Contact by 3/21/09 to reserve a space > > -- > > Larry Macy > 78 Midget > > Keep your top down and your chin up. > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > lmacy at phillymgclub.com > Board Member at Large > Philadelphia MG Club > > > "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of > arriving safely in an attractive and well kept body, but to skid in > sideways, Margaritas in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally > worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!". > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Tue Feb 24 00:55:17 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 01:55:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] It Runs Again In-Reply-To: References: <66B1053E70D844BF88172C2C5EA6BF45@blackbox2> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902232355m708d6c6q1518db735cb85ef@mail.gmail.com> Mike, Does the inflation come before or after the revolution? ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:13 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > Well, that is until inflation sets in. > Mike MacLean > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > > > It's just a recession then? Whew! > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "rrengineer @dslextreme.com" < > > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> > > Subject: [Spridgets] It Runs Again > > > > > > I didn't think about the recession all day! > >> Mike MacLean > >> 60 Sprite > >> 56 BN2 > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as rrengineer at dslextreme.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From wbmcleod at gmail.com Tue Feb 24 00:57:50 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:57:50 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] It Runs Again In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902232355m708d6c6q1518db735cb85ef@mail.gmail.com> References: <66B1053E70D844BF88172C2C5EA6BF45@blackbox2> <43840a7e0902232355m708d6c6q1518db735cb85ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A3A87E.8040300@gmail.com> Inflation comes after the flat tire! Bill Jim Johnson wrote: > Mike, > > Does the inflation come before or after the revolution? ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > >> Well, that is until inflation sets in. >> Mike MacLean >> >> >>> It's just a recession then? Whew! >>> >>> Subject: [Spridgets] It Runs Again >>> >>> >>> I didn't think about the recession all day! >>> >>>> Mike MacLean >>>> 60 Sprite >>>> 56 BN2 From bighealey at charter.net Tue Feb 24 06:28:42 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:28:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Need Lucas part number for Midget headlight switch Message-ID: Hoping to find a NOS part I am seeking the LUCAS part number for the MG Midget headlights in dash 3 position rocker switch. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From andrewpayne at intrex.net Tue Feb 24 09:08:11 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:08:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902231730q825fc84gffe1d44d04d3dcc8@mail.gmail.com> References: <49A34316.1040400@cox.net> <43840a7e0902231730q825fc84gffe1d44d04d3dcc8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Exactly! You probably bought 4x4s back when they were called, uh, 4x4s. Most ranchers/farmers I know bemoan the loss of hose out interiors. (You just can't get the smell of pig sh!t out of carpet.) When I see one small person in an Excursion at the Starbucks drive through, I'm reminded of the time I briefly considered trading my Corsica daily driver for a 15 foot Isuzu box truck. In defense of my hypocrisy, It would have made a fantastic cross country photo studio. Thank God I met Kelly and bought a Miata instead! You think people ask you to help them move when you drive a pick up, just think what a hydraulic lift gate does to that equation. Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:31 PM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SUV's I dunno... To us folks here in fly-over, 4x4 comes in pretty handy year round for getting chow out to the cattle, pulling fence, pulling calves, moving hay bales, hauling dirt or gravel....etc. The idea of using one for "recreation" is a little foreign to us. We tend to look at them as work horses rather than play toys. Cheers!! Jim - In west Kansas cattle country From bkitterer at mac.com Tue Feb 24 09:27:52 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 08:27:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Looking for a part - found In-Reply-To: <750B0F65-7F6E-449A-A3A7-C375DB1BD3E1@mac.com> References: <750B0F65-7F6E-449A-A3A7-C375DB1BD3E1@mac.com> Message-ID: <9179151E-12D5-4C80-9E96-33602BFF29AF@mac.com> Because of this great list I have the part. Thanks to ever one who replied. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 23, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Kitterer Bob wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Am looking for the ninety degree bracket that goes between the > radiator mount and the passenger side wheel well, heater duct intake > mounts below this bracket. If anyone has one they will part with let > me know what kind of deal we can make. > > Thanks > > Bob Kitterer > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > 2000 Miata Special Edition > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bvsprite at yahoo.com Tue Feb 24 10:39:49 2009 From: bvsprite at yahoo.com (bv) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:39:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <333332.90682.qm@web53801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Kirk, I've found a few articles that explain it this way: "Good acceleration requires a rich mixture, but SUs have no accelerator pump. To compensate for this, the piston damper slows the piston's rise when you step on the gas. This temporarily increases air velocity over the jet and draws more fuel, thus enriching the mixture. The effect is only temporary, returning to a leaner condition for cruise." See the two URL's below for reference, and search on 'accelerator pump'. It is also stated that you can 'increase' the accelerator pump action, by using thicker oils in the su dash pot, to delay 'piston rise'. http://www.mossmotors.com/forum/forums/thread/11209.aspx http://books.google.com/books?id=CTz2EAp2ua8C&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=su+accelerator+pump&source=bl&ots=gs0qmgqIhH&sig=gemAmGKVzLTg0r4jSoQ1KOIAt3w&hl=en&ei=5iukScaPBqCSsQPpxNiwAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result Regards, Bryan Vandiver 59 bugeye San Jose, CA --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: From: Robert E. Shlafer Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question To: "Bill L" , "Kirk Hargreaves" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:51 PM Purrfect! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Bill L Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:05 PM To: Kirk Hargreaves Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question Hello Kirk, It has to do with the rate of rise of the piston. ... the carbs operate atmospherically. when you press on the pedal, you're opening the butterfly valve. This allows the engine to SUCK more. ..the There is an air channel that is arranged so that when this suck is increased, the piston to which the needle is attached rises, allowing both more air, (from the air cleaner) and more gas (because you've pulled the needle out of the jets) to flow. You can't flood the carbs because they only deliver as much air/fuel as the engine will suck... no to the point. the oil in the damper limits the RATE of rise of the piston. This limits the amount of air that can flow sucking relatively more gas from the jet, causing an increase in the richness of the mixture during acceleration. When the engine again achieves relative equilibrium the distance of the piston out of the jet (and thus the amount of gas flowing) and the flow of air are stoichiometrically in balance. (theoretically) if this isn't true someone will, i'm sure, correct me. .. PLEASE! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Taken as a whole, the universe is absurd You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as bvsprite at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 24 12:20:34 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:20:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> Camino are almost as bad, Drew !!! Don't have to reach UP to put stuff in!!! When I lived In Central ILL, seemed like once a MONTH I got asked to help somebody move!! PITA !! And NO, NEVER 'lent' ANY of my Camino out!! (Especially the 396 w/4-speed - wouldn't have had any tires left upon return!!)!! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Feb 24 12:50:49 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:50:49 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When I was younger, I knew one guy with a pickup truck. He was never shy about saying that it was a work truck and moves were for 'cash'. Rental trucks were cheaper as the people moving didn't also have to hire the driver. Therefore, he pretty much didn't do moves!! ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Ed's Shop" <> Camino are almost as bad, Drew !!! Don't have to reach UP to put stuff in!!! When I lived In Central ILL, seemed like once a MONTH I got asked to help somebody move!! PITA !! And NO, NEVER 'lent' ANY of my Camino out!! (Especially the 396 w/4-speed - wouldn't have had any tires left upon return!!)!! From wmgilroy at gmail.com Tue Feb 24 14:20:00 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (Bill Gilroy) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:20:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] SUV's In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902231251o2cd2a2aes334b461c69e839bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902231251o2cd2a2aes334b461c69e839bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441250190902241320j31aefe75xa30f200dedd9c140@mail.gmail.com> I never had a 4x4 in NJ. When I replace my truck I purchased one with 4WD. When it snows it can be impossible to get a 2wd truck up my mountain. When it snows there is 100 to 150 cars parked at the bottom of the hill, you walk the last couple of miles, up hill in the snow :-) So I use the 4wd when it snow, but my wife's Outback is much better in the snow. -g On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Really, how many people in my state, California, really use their 4 wheel > drive option? > > I talk to people who buy these things and hear all the time that they never > engage 4 wheel drive. From cclabaw at juno.com Tue Feb 24 14:29:53 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:29:53 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question Message-ID: <20090224.132953.16091.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> Kirk - You also can change damper springs. Clay L. '67 Sprite ng thicker oils in the su dash pot, to delay 'piston rise'. http://www.mossmotors.com/forum/forums/thread/11209.aspx http://books.google.com/books?id=CTz2EAp2ua8C&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=su+accelera tor+pump&source=bl&ots=gs0qmgqIhH&sig=gemAmGKVzLTg0r4jSoQ1KOIAt3w&hl=en&ei=5i ukScaPBqCSsQPpxNiwAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result Regards, Bryan Vandiver 59 bugeye San Jose, CA --- On Mon, 2/23/09, Robert E. Shlafer wrote: From: Robert E. Shlafer Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question To: "Bill L" , "Kirk Hargreaves" Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 6:51 PM Purrfect! :) Cap'n. Bob '60 :{) -----Original Message----- From: Bill L Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 5:05 PM To: Kirk Hargreaves Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question Hello Kirk, It has to do with the rate of rise of the piston. ... the carbs operate atmospherically. when you press on the pedal, you're opening the butterfly valve. This allows the engine to SUCK more. ..the There is an air channel that is arranged so that when this suck is increased, the piston to which the needle is attached rises, allowing both more air, (from the air cleaner) and more gas (because you've pulled the needle out of the jets) to flow. You can't flood the carbs because they only deliver as much air/fuel as the engine will suck... no to the point. the oil in the damper limits the RATE of rise of the piston. This limits the amount of air that can flow sucking relatively more gas from the jet, causing an increase in the richness of the mixture during acceleration. When the engine again achieves relative equilibrium the distance of the piston out of the jet (and thus the amount of gas flowing) and the flow of air are stoichiometrically in balance. (theoretically) if this isn't true someone will, i'm sure, correct me. .. PLEASE! -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Taken as a whole, the universe is absurd You are subscribed as pilotrob at webtv.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as bvsprite at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Stuck in a dead end job?? Click to start living your dreams by earning an online degree. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTKL6fNMduXoJAnriR9A1FFNqpib XutB2JRc6rMLanaiIo3FJc4u0Q/ From breton48 at live.com Tue Feb 24 14:46:25 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:46:25 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Jetting Weber carbs for altitude In-Reply-To: <441250190902241320j31aefe75xa30f200dedd9c140@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902231251o2cd2a2aes334b461c69e839bd@mail.gmail.com> <441250190902241320j31aefe75xa30f200dedd9c140@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Spridgeteers, I can find a lot of online sites for rejetting carbs on boats, ATVs, bikes, etc, but nothing relevant for LBCs. Anyone knows where I could find some info? I have two Webers DCOE 40s which were jetted at sea level, but I am now regularly driving at 6000 to 9000 + feet, and the engine is running too rich. I know I should also advance the ignition. JLC From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Tue Feb 24 14:51:01 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:51:01 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've brought mine ( bought 'used' ) to the dealer a few times. Someone phones to do a follow up afterwards. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Payne Sent: February 22, 2009 6:48 PM To: Michael Rowe; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture Talk to the service manager politely, get a specific tech. Know him(most likely him) by name. Make sure he knows you by name. Ask advice. Bring coffee. He'll know your car, and want it right. He'll want it right because he knows you, not because you'll be a pain in the ass. Take your car there for all service, including some oil changes. They may be more reasonable and thorough if they see you regularly. When someone only sees an item broken, their only job is to fix it. If they see it when it's not broken, their job is to keep it working. Of course there are just crappy dealers. Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "spridgets at autox.team.net" Sent: 2/22/09 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > Subaru has one formula (quality, symmetrical AWD, boxer engine, top safety > ratings, and good handling/performance) and sticks to it. My wife has an Outback. Every time (no exaggeration) we have taken it into the dealer for any kind of warrantee work, at least one plastic bit has fallen out onto the road within a few miles because the mechanic didn't remember to screw it back on. So Subaru does not have everything right in our neighborhood. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as robertduquette at sympatico.ca http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Tue Feb 24 15:23:21 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:23:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU Question - Accelerator Pump Question References: <20090224.132953.16091.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: > You also can change damper springs. But that changes different parameters. A stiffer spring means that the carb requires more airflow to open the dashpot fully. A softer spring means that less airflow is required. This has more to do with calibrating the carb for the displacement and rpm of the intended application than it does with compensating for lean spots under acceleration. Changing the spring also means that your needle is now wrong for your application, whether it was right with the other spring or not. These are very simple carbs; the only complicated bit to them is the needle. The factory put a lot of work into getting the needle right for the application. The moment you change the cam profile, the compression ratio, the exhaust header, etc, you have now guaranteed that the needles in your carbs are no longer optimal for YOUR engine. Getting them right again can be a long and tedious operation involving more art than anything else. David Lieb From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 24 18:52:46 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:52:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Great Fun w/o sex Message-ID: Gun LOVERS "HEAVEN" ~~~~ Gwad I would LOVE to go !!!!! http://tinyurl.com/cue5al OR http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/exclusives/64615/OFASTS -Gun-Apocalypse.html Me From soavero at yahoo.com Tue Feb 24 19:48:39 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:48:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? Message-ID: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Watching the Obama speech (somebody should staple Pelosi to her seat), I learned something - America invented the automobile???? I thought it was Karl Benz. Or Frank Clarici. Anon From andrewpayne at intrex.net Tue Feb 24 19:49:49 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:49:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3A135559AC2746BDB0ED36F6EA4AF035@AndrewHP> This billboard really sums up the situation. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/24/wanted-lender-for-1-000-gm-vans/ From andrewpayne at intrex.net Tue Feb 24 20:17:40 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:17:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <08C45DF6D9354506AC832E6F79472418@AndrewHP> I was only half listening, and asked my wife what Germany had pledged to our economy. Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Soave Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:49 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? Watching the Obama speech (somebody should staple Pelosi to her seat), I learned something - America invented the automobile???? I thought it was Karl Benz. Or Frank Clarici. Anon You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Tue Feb 24 20:20:53 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:20:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> Either it was Frank or a bloke called Otto... On 24 Feb 2009 at 18:48, Ron Soave wrote: >> Watching the Obama speech (somebody should staple Pelosi to her seat), >> I learned something - America invented the automobile???? I thought it >> was Karl Benz. Or Frank Clarici. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Tue Feb 24 20:34:18 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:34:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <3A135559AC2746BDB0ED36F6EA4AF035@AndrewHP> Message-ID: I'm 61, and GM has built crap for as long as I can remember. I've never understood why people had such allegiance to such crap. In the last 50 years they've built one good engine, which they're still flogging even though it's well past it's prime. They've never built a decent vehicle to put the engine in. I guess some people are just masochists. Good riddance to GM and to the UAW. They've both had their way with America long enough. BZ From dwramsey at att.net Tue Feb 24 20:43:30 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:43:30 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <08C45DF6D9354506AC832E6F79472418@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <20090225034354.96AC8187656@autox.team.net> Yea, but it was Henry Ford that invented a Model T in every chicken pot pie. Crash I was only half listening, and asked my wife what Germany had pledged to our economy. Drew learned something - America invented the automobile???? I thought it was Karl Benz. Or Frank Clarici. Anon From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 24 20:44:39 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:44:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cleaning fuel tank References: Message-ID: <821406.51670.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Dropped the gas tank on my midget to install a new fuel gauge sender. The tank is in surprisingly good shape, but has some gum and varnish. What's the best and easiest way to clean the crap out and it it back together? If it makes a difference, this is on a 1979 with vapor recovery and screen sock on the pickup tube. Thanks. Lee PS: I'll do the Eastwood sealer routine when it gets warmer. Just trying for a quick clean. From pythias at pacifier.com Tue Feb 24 20:46:00 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:46:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <379800364.20090224194600@pacifier.com> Hello Ron, And it thought it was invented in FRANCE... (Cugnot) -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Mind if I clean my fly swatter over your soup? From spritenut at comcast.net Tue Feb 24 21:19:25 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:19:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Cleaning fuel tank In-Reply-To: <821406.51670.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <821406.51670.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A4C6CD.30406@comcast.net> Lee Fox wrote: > > What's the best and easiest way to clean the crap out and it it back together? > > > I fill it 2/3s with water and let it simmer out on the gas grill. It works great. Keep the sender unit off and the filler hole open. It has to boil for about 10 minutes to come out clean as new. I have boiled out 3 inches of sludge in one tank. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From hardy.john at cox.net Tue Feb 24 21:24:04 2009 From: hardy.john at cox.net (hardy.john at cox.net) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:24:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <379800364.20090224194600@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <20090224232404.54CP6.103962.imail@fed1rmwml33> First Automobile Cugnot in 1769, steam driven Benz with the 1st internal combustion engine in 1885 First mass produced vehicle, the Curved Dash Oldsmobile built by Ransome Olds in 1901 with a production total for the year of 425 cars. History and Geography, Americans favorite two subjects....... ---- Bill L wrote: > Hello Ron, > > And it thought it was invented in FRANCE... > > (Cugnot) > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Mind if I clean my fly swatter over your soup? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hardy.john at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Tue Feb 24 21:33:49 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:33:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <3A135559AC2746BDB0ED36F6EA4AF035@AndrewHP> References: <3A135559AC2746BDB0ED36F6EA4AF035@AndrewHP> Message-ID: I used to work for Dave last year. He sold our company to purchase a Lexus dealership. He is a nice guy, and it is a testament to his drive, to see that billboard up at his store in Dallas. Brad On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Andrew Payne wrote: > This billboard really sums up the situation. > http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/24/wanted-lender-for-1-000-gm-vans/ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From mark at nashvilletn.org Tue Feb 24 21:35:24 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:35:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: You can't just "staple" Pelosi, you will need to drive a stake through her heart. She did stand proudly and applauded at the notion that company executives should not have their private jets, yet she through a fit until she got a 757 for the "long trip home" every weekend. I would approve of her riding in the bomb bay of B1B and just dropping her off when they got close to the Golden Gate. >> Watching the Obama speech (somebody should staple Pelosi to her seat), >> I learned something - America invented the automobile???? I thought it >> was Karl Benz. Or Frank Clarici. From dlh2001 at comcast.net Tue Feb 24 22:05:33 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:05:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: Not to mention she is captured on film giving a nice big hug to 8 billion Ponzi schemer Sir Allen Stanford at a democratic gathering last year. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? > You can't just "staple" Pelosi, you will need to drive a stake through her > heart. From shop at justbrits.com Tue Feb 24 23:53:00 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:53:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: << I would approve of her riding in the bomb bay of B1B and just dropping her off when they got close to the Golden Gate.>> While I ECHO the sentiment Mark, WHY would one wanna take a chance that a LANDMARK like the G.G. Bridge take a 'sh*tty' hit like THAT?? The "shame" of it all !!! Now "Pelosi in the Pacific via Parachute" DOES have a warm & fuzzy feel to it !!! And a REAL plane like a B-17 and strafing (by all stations) at the 'target' descending.... And the P-51(s) escorts also allowed to 'play'...... !! Billy, some lyrics PLEASE!!!!! Ed PS: If OK I would enjoy a 47G 'bubble' Bell with just a pair mini guns. From shop at justbrits.com Wed Feb 25 00:28:11 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:28:11 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <<(somebody should staple Pelosi to her seat)>> Even an OSHIT Team couldn't get THAT 'job' done, Ron!!!!!! From mhagopian at hoppetool.com Wed Feb 25 01:26:59 2009 From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:26:59 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87a1f55d0902250026i55d3d689qb99f1107f9b8cedc@mail.gmail.com> my favorite part was the 15 minute clapping session and the 23 times obama said thank you. followed by 3 words and another 5 minute clapping session... On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:28 AM, Ed's Shop wrote: > <<(somebody should staple Pelosi to her seat)>> > > Even an OSHIT Team couldn't get THAT 'job' done, Ron!!!!!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mhagopian at hoppetool.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Sincerely, Matt Hagopian From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Wed Feb 25 01:45:08 2009 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:45:08 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <20090224232404.54CP6.103962.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: <746DCF1C99F34A7CAD2FAD8A0BDAFDC1@GuyLaptop> No the speech must have been correct. It was definitely an American invention. There is loads of old film footage. Someone by the name of Fred Flintstone as far as I recall. Fairly basic, but definitely an automobile. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of hardy.john at cox.net Sent: 25 February 2009 04:24 To: Bill L Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? First Automobile Cugnot in 1769, steam driven Benz with the 1st internal combustion engine in 1885 First mass produced vehicle, the Curved Dash Oldsmobile built by Ransome Olds in 1901 with a production total for the year of 425 cars. History and Geography, Americans favorite two subjects....... ---- Bill L wrote: > Hello Ron, > > And it thought it was invented in FRANCE... > > (Cugnot) > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Mind if I clean my fly swatter over your soup? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hardy.john at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 05:51:49 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:51:49 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? You can't just "staple" Pelosi, you will need to drive a stake through her heart. She did stand proudly and applauded at the notion that company executives should not have their private jets, yet she through a fit until she got a 757 for the "long trip home" every weekend. I would approve of her riding in the bomb bay of B1B and just dropping her off when they got close to the Golden Gate. =================== If you are going to shoot your mouth off, you need to get your facts straight. The Speaker of the House is required to fly on military aircraft -- not private jets -- for security reasons since 9-11. The aircraft is required to be able to make the trip non-stop. The then Speaker, Dennis Hastert, flew a Gulfstream C-20B back and forth to IL. That plane is not capable of making the trip non-stop to California when there is a strong headwind. Therefore, the House Sergeant-at-Arms, not Pelosi, requested the availability of a larger plane "when needed". To date she has only needed to use the larger plane, a C32, once and that was when there was no smaller plane available. She has never flown a 757. Whatever you think of any of our wonderful public servants (?), making up crap makes you look bad, not them. God knows there is enough truth out there to nail them with. LAD From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Feb 25 05:55:55 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:55:55 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cleaning fuel tank In-Reply-To: <821406.51670.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <821406.51670.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7AC0AEE892E9461ABD060C6C97B51E67@spider> If you're going in again later, I wouldn't mess with it. Just put on fuel filter. ...bill in Oregon (I wouldn't use a sealer. Appears that the new gas formulations will eat it.) ======================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lee Fox Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:45 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Cleaning fuel tank Dropped the gas tank on my midget to install a new fuel gauge sender. The tank is in surprisingly good shape, but has some gum and varnish. What's the best and easiest way to clean the crap out and it back together? If it makes a difference, this is on a 1979 with vapor recovery and screen sock on the pickup tube. Thanks. Lee PS: I'll do the Eastwood sealer routine when it gets warmer. Just trying for a quick clean. _______________________________________________ From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Feb 25 06:05:45 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:05:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> Message-ID: <817953.77256.qm@web30506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Larry Daniels wrote: > If you are going to shoot your mouth off, you need to get > your facts > straight. Like saying the United States invented the automobile - once you do that, the "rhetoric meter" gets pinned and you fear it's only a matter of time until there's a "Mission Accomplished" moment, 2010 version. Meet the new boss... Ron From kristi74midget at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 06:06:06 2009 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:06:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Join us in the Walk to Defeat ALS Message-ID: <8339C11D-B735-4844-B26A-490599806C98@comcast.net> Hello Fellow MG'ers On April 25, we will be participating in The ALS Association's Bucks County Walk to Defeat ALS. We have recently accepted the challenge to raise funds to help the Association accelerate the discovery of the cause and cure of Lou Gehrig's Disease, and to provide programs and services that are so desperately needed by ALS patients and their families. Imagine: as you are busy with your career, your family, and your community responsibilities, you become unable to speak well. You fall inexplicably. You have trouble picking up papers or using a pen. You tire very easily. You seek medical counsel, but are given no satisfactory answers. If you can imagine this, then you start to understand the beginnings of ALS, or Lou Gehrig's Disease. Unfortunately, the beginning is the best part of the struggle with ALS it gets much worse. Relatively quickly - usually within two years - the patient becomes unable to speak, to move, to swallow. Finally, the patient becomes unable to breathe. Most patients die within five years. Yet, through it all, for the vast majority of patients, their minds remain unaffected. Essentially the ALS patient's mind is trapped inside a helpless body. This year, we will Walk in honor of Janet Thomas (Kristi's mom), who is courageous in her current battle with ALS. During her struggle with the debilitating effects of ALS, Janet forever inspires us with her bravery and determination. This inspiration encouraged us to join the fight against ALS. We hope you will join us as we work to help everyone living with this disease. Our hope is to be one of the top fundraising participants and bring many friends and family with us on Walk Day! To do this, We need your support therefore we are asking you to support our Walk team by making a gift or walking with us. It is faster and easier than ever to support this great cause by making your tax-deductible donation online using the link below. Simply click on the link below to visit our personal fundraising page and donate directly online or join us as a Walk participant. You may also choose to send your contribution in the form of a check. Please make all checks payable to The ALS Association, Greater Philadelphia Chapter and send them to us at the following address: Janet Thomas or Christina Liebel 1366 Randy Drive Pottstown, PA 19464 Thank you again for supporting us in the fight against ALS. We appreciate your generosity and we will continue to update you with our progress as Walk Day nears. Sincerely, From kristi74midget at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 06:08:12 2009 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:08:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Join us in the Walk to Defeat ALS 2 Message-ID: <2BA52CBD-FA52-4A75-AE4B-97ECDF93C90D@comcast.net> Sorry I forgot to add the link to go to the website. http://alsphiladelphia.kintera.org/faf/r.asp?t=4&i=299365&u=299365-248320980&e=2258550148 Please let me know if this works. Thank you, Kristi From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Feb 25 06:10:50 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:10:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <20090224232404.54CP6.103962.imail@fed1rmwml33> References: <379800364.20090224194600@pacifier.com> <20090224232404.54CP6.103962.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: Even the Library of Congress says Benz(referring to Cugnot as a military vehicle), not the US. Another site said the Benz was the first automobile, yet the Cugnot was the first auto crash!? Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of hardy.john at cox.net Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:24 PM To: Bill L Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? First Automobile Cugnot in 1769, steam driven Benz with the 1st internal combustion engine in 1885 First mass produced vehicle, the Curved Dash Oldsmobile built by Ransome Olds in 1901 with a production total for the year of 425 cars. History and Geography, Americans favorite two subjects....... ---- Bill L wrote: > Hello Ron, > > And it thought it was invented in FRANCE... > > (Cugnot) > > -- > Best regards, > Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com > > '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" > > Mind if I clean my fly swatter over your soup? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as hardy.john at cox.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Feb 25 06:12:48 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:12:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Huh??? Message-ID: "As for our auto industry, everyone recognizes that years of bad decision-making and a global recession have pushed our automakers to the brink. We should not, and will not, protect them from their own bad practices. But we are committed to the goal of a retooled, re-imagined auto industry that can compete and win. Millions of jobs depend on it. Scores of communities depend on it. And I believe the nation that invented the automobile cannot walk away from it." From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Feb 25 06:16:37 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:16:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <20090225034354.96AC8187656@autox.team.net> Message-ID: I thought he invented black cars? ;) ----Original Message Follows---- Yea, but it was Henry Ford that invented a Model T in every chicken pot pie. Crash From kristi74midget at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 07:45:13 2009 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:45:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: <3FB17DC6-F4A3-43AA-A670-2F9EA4A11787@comcast.net> Testing. . . . I can receive emails but I can not send to the list. Kristi From kristi74midget at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 07:48:07 2009 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:48:07 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Test Message-ID: <8D6E1F92-50C7-46B1-B8C4-ED1480006F39@comcast.net> Testing . . . . I can receive emails but not send. Kristi From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Feb 25 07:51:09 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:51:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> Message-ID: <35938CF743D74FB7B5045F71D536D702@Dell9200> I stand corrected :) Somewhat! Must be true, I read it on the internet. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=2858225&page=1 From davriker at nwi.net Wed Feb 25 07:56:40 2009 From: davriker at nwi.net (David Riker) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:56:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture References: Message-ID: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> Wow, Billy, tell us how your really feel. I'm 46, and I've never heard a punk rock song that I liked. Doesn't mean it's crap, I just prefer RUSH. Dave R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Andrew Payne" ; "'Robert Duquette'" ; "'Spridgets List'" Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > I'm 61, and GM has built crap for as long as I can remember. > I've never understood why people had such allegiance to such crap. > In the last 50 years they've built one good engine, which they're still > flogging even though it's well past it's prime. They've never built a > decent vehicle to put the engine in. I guess some people are just > masochists. Good riddance to GM and to the UAW. They've both had their way > with America long enough. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 02/24/09 13:35:00 From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Feb 25 07:57:45 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:57:45 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <7l26sn$5t9p1d@email.mtu.edu> At 11:35 PM 2/24/2009, Mark wrote: >You can't just "staple" Pelosi, You guys must have been reading the Dilbert Comic strip today. Dogbert's a great guy! Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From corvallis at peoplepc.com Wed Feb 25 08:11:19 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:11:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Test In-Reply-To: <8D6E1F92-50C7-46B1-B8C4-ED1480006F39@comcast.net> References: <8D6E1F92-50C7-46B1-B8C4-ED1480006F39@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7503870DA75741E49822FE94878140BD@spider> Got it -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kristi & Lambert Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:48 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Test Testing . . . . I can receive emails but not send. Kristi _______________________________________________ From breton48 at live.com Wed Feb 25 08:30:05 2009 From: breton48 at live.com (JLC) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:30:05 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: References: <379800364.20090224194600@pacifier.com> <20090224232404.54CP6.103962.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: Drew wrote: Even the Library of Congress says Benz(referring to Cugnot as a military vehicle), not the US. Another site said the Benz was the first automobile, yet the Cugnot was the first auto crash!? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Right... the three-wheeled steam powered Cugnot vehicle was designed to pull a cannon, and crashed within a few hundred feet the first time it was on a road! I think most would agree Benz was the inventor of the automobile. The early English car manufacturers were not helped by the fact a car driver needed a man with a red flag to walk in front of the vehicle as a warning to impending catastrophe such vehicle was bound to unleash! I think the red flag law lasted at least till 1903? JLC From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 08:32:14 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:32:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> References: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> Message-ID: 2112 is the absolute BEST Rush album, followed by Fly by Night. I am kinda fond of some of the Ramones, a very little Clash, and a hit or miss here and there. I never really got into X, but hell, if the guitar player owns a Sprite, he can't be that bad.... PLEASE NOTE THE ** On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:56 AM, David Riker wrote: > Wow, Billy, tell us how your really feel. I'm 46, and I've never heard a > punk rock song that I liked. Doesn't mean it's crap, I just prefer RUSH. > > Dave R. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" > To: "Andrew Payne" ; "'Robert Duquette'" < > robertduquette at sympatico.ca>; "'Spridgets List'" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > > > I'm 61, and GM has built crap for as long as I can remember. >> I've never understood why people had such allegiance to such crap. >> In the last 50 years they've built one good engine, which they're still >> flogging even though it's well past it's prime. They've never built a >> decent vehicle to put the engine in. I guess some people are just >> masochists. Good riddance to GM and to the UAW. They've both had their way >> with America long enough. >> BZ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 02/24/09 > 13:35:00 > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From kristi74midget at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 08:34:43 2009 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:34:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Join us in the Walk to Defeat ALS (Part 1) Message-ID: <02BBC5D4-801F-49DD-B7F4-CA373D3DE971@comcast.net> Hello Fellow MG'ers On April 25, we will be participating in The ALS Association's Bucks County Walk to Defeat ALS. We have recently accepted the challenge to raise funds to help the Association accelerate the discovery of the cause and cure of Lou Gehrig's Disease, and to provide programs and services that are so desperately needed by ALS patients and their families. Imagine: as you are busy with your career, your family, and your community responsibilities, you become unable to speak well. You fall inexplicably. You have trouble picking up papers or using a pen. You tire very easily. You seek medical counsel, but are given no satisfactory answers. If you can imagine this, then you start to understand the beginnings of ALS, or Lou Gehrig's Disease. Unfortunately, the beginning is the best part of the struggle with ALS it gets much worse. Relatively quickly - usually within two years - the patient becomes unable to speak, to move, to swallow. Finally, the patient becomes unable to breathe. Most patients die within five years. Yet, through it all, for the vast majority of patients, their minds remain unaffected. Essentially the ALS patient's mind is trapped inside a helpless body. From kristi74midget at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 08:35:46 2009 From: kristi74midget at comcast.net (Kristi & Lambert) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:35:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT - Join us in the Walk to Defeat ALS (Part 2) Message-ID: <908082CC-334C-469A-92A2-FB72C29BDDFD@comcast.net> continued ----- This year, we will Walk in honor of Janet Thomas (Kristi's mom), who is courageous in her current battle with ALS. During her struggle with the debilitating effects of ALS, Janet forever inspires us with her bravery and determination. This inspiration encouraged us to join the fight against ALS. We hope you will join us as we work to help everyone living with this disease. Our hope is to be one of the top fundraising participants and bring many friends and family with us on Walk Day! To do this, We need your support therefore we are asking you to support our Walk team by making a gift or walking with us. It is faster and easier than ever to support this great cause by making your tax-deductible donation online using the link below. Simply click on the link below to visit our personal fundraising page and donate directly online or join us as a Walk participant. You may also choose to send your contribution in the form of a check. Please make all checks payable to The ALS Association, Greater Philadelphia Chapter and send them to us at the following address: Janet Thomas or Christina Liebel 1366 Randy Drive Pottstown, PA 19464 Thank you again for supporting us in the fight against ALS. We appreciate your generosity and we will continue to update you with our progress as Walk Day nears. Sincerely, Kristi (Christina) > Login to visit my personal web page and help me in my efforts to > support ALS Association, Greater Philadelphia Chapter > ****************************************************************************** > Some email systems do not support the use of links and therefore > this link may not appear to work. If so, copy and paste the > following into your browser: http://alsphiladelphia.kintera.org/faf/r.asp?t=4&i=299365&u=299365-248320980&e=2258550148 > ****************************************************************************** From dwramsey at att.net Wed Feb 25 08:44:14 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 07:44:14 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090225154439.8FB11187646@autox.team.net> Just to dirty the water wasn't the Cugnot a three wheel vehicle with two in the back and one up front? That would make it a motorcycle. Crash Even the Library of Congress says Benz(referring to Cugnot as a military vehicle), not the US. Another site said the Benz was the first automobile, yet the Cugnot was the first auto crash!? Drew From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Feb 25 08:46:32 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:46:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> References: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> Message-ID: <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP> Dave, I used to be big into Punk, and I can tell you without doubt that much of it IS crap. Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Riker Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:57 AM To: Billy Zoom; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture Wow, Billy, tell us how your really feel. I'm 46, and I've never heard a punk rock song that I liked. Doesn't mean it's crap, I just prefer RUSH. Dave R. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Billy Zoom" To: "Andrew Payne" ; "'Robert Duquette'" ; "'Spridgets List'" Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > I'm 61, and GM has built crap for as long as I can remember. > I've never understood why people had such allegiance to such crap. > In the last 50 years they've built one good engine, which they're still > flogging even though it's well past it's prime. They've never built a > decent vehicle to put the engine in. I guess some people are just > masochists. Good riddance to GM and to the UAW. They've both had their way > with America long enough. > BZ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 02/24/09 13:35:00 You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Feb 25 08:48:49 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:48:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <20090225154417.6B44D11F8C2@mailserv1.intrex.net> References: <20090225154417.6B44D11F8C2@mailserv1.intrex.net> Message-ID: Yes, but so was the Benz. -----Original Message----- From: David Ramsey [mailto:dwramsey at att.net] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:44 AM To: 'Andrew Payne' Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Huh??? Just to dirty the water wasn't the Cugnot a three wheel vehicle with two in the back and one up front? That would make it a motorcycle. Crash Even the Library of Congress says Benz(referring to Cugnot as a military vehicle), not the US. Another site said the Benz was the first automobile, yet the Cugnot was the first auto crash!? Drew From wbmcleod at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 09:20:03 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:20:03 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Spring is here Message-ID: <49A56FB3.50502@gmail.com> Spring has come to the desert, with 90 degree temps! I sure hope it arrives soon in the rest of the country, so I don't have to keep overworking my delete key to get rid of the crap that is flying around. Bill From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 09:45:13 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:45:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> Message-ID: <3CF68B1BAC5040CA8C4EC12424FE8795@dell1> Isn't this the same "Speaker of the House" that recently attached an "earmark" that gave her husband's company (he holds 17 million shares of their stock) 33 million to help the company's tuna fishing AND deny payment of minimum wage to the company's employees in Samoa? Great example of "recovery" and/or "entitlement". That is a fact! Pelosi is a product of a "political boss family" that corrupted Baltimore politics for centuries. I agree with Brad on the stake but it should be driven up her ass to try and find her "heart". Anon [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1971 - Release Date: 02/25/09 06:40:00 From frog.aye at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 10:41:49 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:41:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <3CF68B1BAC5040CA8C4EC12424FE8795@dell1> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <3CF68B1BAC5040CA8C4EC12424FE8795@dell1> Message-ID: <4333f8140902250941r7c86d5a1s871aa60ec44a48c6@mail.gmail.com> When the right-wing moronic gasbags have demonstrated their total lack of viable ideas, they begin to defecate garbage such as this this thread. It belongs on Ed's wacko list. Hal On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Biff Jones wrote: > Isn't this the same "Speaker of the House" that recently attached an > "earmark" that gave her husband's company (he holds 17 million shares of > their stock) 33 million to help the company's tuna fishing AND deny payment > of minimum wage to the company's employees in Samoa? Great example of > "recovery" and/or "entitlement". > > That is a fact! > > Pelosi is a product of a "political boss family" that corrupted Baltimore > politics for centuries. I agree with Brad on the stake but it should be > driven up her ass to try and find her "heart". > > Anon > > > [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried > to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send > plain text.] > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1971 - Release Date: 02/25/09 > 06:40:00 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as frog.aye at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 10:53:26 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:53:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <3CF68B1BAC5040CA8C4EC12424FE8795@dell1> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <3CF68B1BAC5040CA8C4EC12424FE8795@dell1> Message-ID: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT!!!! I am NO fan of Pelosi and her liberal ilk, but I have NOT contributed to this thread at all. I dropped off the 9issa list, because anything I said that was NOT liberal, was met with personal attacks. That is EXACTLY why I am staying out of this here. I don't NEED jokes, but I DO need help with my car. I love what I am reading, I just am not contributing. Sorry, but I don't need more "liberal love" via email. Brad On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Biff Jones wrote: > Isn't this the same "Speaker of the House" that recently attached an > "earmark" that gave her husband's company (he holds 17 million shares of > their stock) 33 million to help the company's tuna fishing AND deny payment > of minimum wage to the company's employees in Samoa? Great example of > "recovery" and/or "entitlement". > > That is a fact! > > Pelosi is a product of a "political boss family" that corrupted Baltimore > politics for centuries. I agree with Brad on the stake but it should be > driven up her ass to try and find her "heart". > > Anon > > > [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried > to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send > plain text.] > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1971 - Release Date: 02/25/09 > 06:40:00 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From wbmcleod at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 10:58:53 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:58:53 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <3CF68B1BAC5040CA8C4EC12424FE8795@dell1> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <3CF68B1BAC5040CA8C4EC12424FE8795@dell1> Message-ID: <49A586DD.1010602@gmail.com> Well, it may be spring in the desert, but I don't have a Spridget to drive, so I'll weigh in.... Legistorm.com, which is a government transparency site funded by the taxpayers for common sense, doesn't list any such earmarks for Speaker Pelosi. On the other hand, googling "Nancy Pelosi earmarks" without any qualifiers, brings up an amazing variety of rants on the subject, but no list of actual earmarks by number. I realize that we all have a tendency to accept what is out there as fact, especially if we are biased in that direction to start with, but passing on garbage as fact just doesn't make any sense. Like the earlier sensible contributor said (my paraphrase), come on, guys, do yer homework! Bill McLeod Slightly Classics Tucson Biff Jones wrote: > Isn't this the same "Speaker of the House" that recently attached an > "earmark" that gave her husband's company (he holds 17 million shares of > their stock) 33 million to help the company's tuna fishing AND deny payment > of minimum wage to the company's employees in Samoa? Great example of > "recovery" and/or "entitlement". > > That is a fact! > > Pelosi is a product of a "political boss family" that corrupted Baltimore > politics for centuries. I agree with Brad on the stake but it should be > driven up her ass to try and find her "heart". > > Anon From bugeye15 at hotmail.com Wed Feb 25 11:23:06 2009 From: bugeye15 at hotmail.com (brian S) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:23:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> Message-ID: Now now Larry, YOU should get your facts straight before YOU start spouting off. A C-20b is the same as a Gulfstream 3, it's range is about 3700nm which is intercontinental range, meaning it can go non-stop to Europe. Has more than enough range to reach Califirnia from the east coast, which is only about 2500nm. A C21, aka Lear 35 is much smaller and cannot fly non-stop coast to coast. It would need to refuel in Kansas or Wyoming, take about 30 mins. Wouldn't want her to have to wait for that would we???? You say that she has used the B757 only once and never the c32? ummmm, they are the SAME plane!! Air Force has plenty of smaller planes than a 757, Lear 35s, G3's, Dc9's and B737s. See them all the time. At least she didn't have the gall to ask for a 747. how come George W got to fly home on a 747 after Obama's inauguration, and not something smaller????? I too caught the we invented the automobile, who writes this crap for him? or was that an ad-lib? Brian S. Bugeyeracr finally resto'ed! Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > To: mark at nashvilletn.org; spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:51:49 -0600 > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark" > To: ; "Spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? > > > You can't just "staple" Pelosi, you will need to drive a stake through her > heart. She did stand proudly and applauded at the notion that company > executives should not have their private jets, yet she through a fit until > she got a 757 for the "long trip home" every weekend. I would approve of > her riding in the bomb bay of B1B and just dropping her off when they got > close to the Golden Gate. > > > =================== > > If you are going to shoot your mouth off, you need to get your facts > straight. > > The Speaker of the House is required to fly on military aircraft -- not > private jets -- for security reasons since 9-11. The aircraft is required > to be able to make the trip non-stop. > > The then Speaker, Dennis Hastert, flew a Gulfstream C-20B back and forth to > IL. That plane is not capable of making the trip non-stop to California > when there is a strong headwind. Therefore, the House Sergeant-at-Arms, not > Pelosi, requested the availability of a larger plane "when needed". To date > she has only needed to use the larger plane, a C32, once and that was when > there was no smaller plane available. She has never flown a 757. > > Whatever you think of any of our wonderful public servants (?), making up > crap makes you look bad, not them. God knows there is enough truth out > there to nail them with. > > > LAD > _________________________________________________________________ Access your email online and on the go with Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Access_022009 From dwgwater at hotmail.com Wed Feb 25 11:28:42 2009 From: dwgwater at hotmail.com (David Groundwater) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:28:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <49A586DD.1010602@gmail.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <3CF68B1BAC5040CA8C4EC12424FE8795@dell1> <49A586DD.1010602@gmail.com> Message-ID: As Rev. Strummer said: We will teach our twisted speech to the young believers, We will train our blue eye men to be young believers Dave of the 70 Midget, who is pondering whether to install an electric fan in front of his radiator because he thinks he can. > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 10:58:53 -0700 > From: wbmcleod at gmail.com > To: biffjones at verizon.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? > > Well, it may be spring in the desert, but I don't have a Spridget to > drive, so I'll weigh in.... > > Legistorm.com, which is a government transparency site funded by the > taxpayers for common sense, doesn't list any such earmarks for Speaker > Pelosi. On the other hand, googling "Nancy Pelosi earmarks" without any > qualifiers, brings up an amazing variety of rants on the subject, but no > list of actual earmarks by number. I realize that we all have a > tendency to accept what is out there as fact, especially if we are > biased in that direction to start with, but passing on garbage as fact > just doesn't make any sense. Like the earlier sensible contributor said > (my paraphrase), come on, guys, do yer homework! > Bill McLeod > Slightly Classics > Tucson > > Biff Jones wrote: > > Isn't this the same "Speaker of the House" that recently attached an > > "earmark" that gave her husband's company (he holds 17 million shares of > > their stock) 33 million to help the company's tuna fishing AND deny payment > > of minimum wage to the company's employees in Samoa? Great example of > > "recovery" and/or "entitlement". > > > > That is a fact! > > > > Pelosi is a product of a "political boss family" that corrupted Baltimore > > politics for centuries. I agree with Brad on the stake but it should be > > driven up her ass to try and find her "heart". > > > > Anon > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as dwgwater at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howit works_022009 From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Feb 25 11:35:32 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:35:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood HVLP gun Message-ID: <60186C61C57A470A9A34239B822A3295@Home> Eastwood is offering an inexpensive HVLP spray gun that only needs 4 cfm at 29 psi, which is easy for an ordinary pancake compressor. The only review I could find was positive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIHcHKeU2j4). Anyone have experience with this gun? Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From haynes386 at netzero.net Wed Feb 25 11:46:56 2009 From: haynes386 at netzero.net (Mark Haynes) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:46:56 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Turn indicator socket Message-ID: <20090225.114656.3244.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> I finally got the turn signals on the '58 working-I had to disassemble and clean the switch due to oxidation plus the DPO had mis-wired the relay. Now I find that the indicator light on the dash doesn't have a socket (much less a bulb)- does anyone know if a 'universal' light socket will fit or do I have to source an NOS socket? TIA, Mark Haynes HAN6L12779 HAN5L8016 ____________________________________________________________ Be there without being there. Click now for great video conferencing solutions! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2231/fc/BLSrjnxPnB4kVveTpBY04EFI30IMZT y11TIbs1sCO1bugtWUdQlGU6gq3wU/ From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 11:49:37 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:49:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP> References: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> Hmmm..... Guess I'm the only Benny Goodman and J.S. Bach fan here.... Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Andrew Payne wrote: > Dave, > > I used to be big into Punk, and I can tell you without doubt that much of > it > IS crap. > > Drew > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Riker > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:57 AM > To: Billy Zoom; 'Spridgets List' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > > Wow, Billy, tell us how your really feel. I'm 46, and I've never heard a > punk rock song that I liked. Doesn't mean it's crap, I just prefer RUSH. > > Dave R. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Billy Zoom" > To: "Andrew Payne" ; "'Robert Duquette'" > ; "'Spridgets List'" < > spridgets at autox.team.net> > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:34 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > > > > I'm 61, and GM has built crap for as long as I can remember. > > I've never understood why people had such allegiance to such crap. > > In the last 50 years they've built one good engine, which they're still > > flogging even though it's well past it's prime. They've never built a > > decent vehicle to put the engine in. I guess some people are just > > masochists. Good riddance to GM and to the UAW. They've both had their > way > > with America long enough. > > BZ > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as davriker at nwi.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1970 - Release Date: 02/24/09 > 13:35:00 > You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 12:04:28 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:04:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> I'm far from a supporter of the speaker or her policies, but you are absolutely correct about the BS rumor mill going in this country. I would caution however that this pendulum does swing both ways..... Some pretty nasty BS went around about people in the previous administration too. I hope you stood up against that as well... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - seeking to be independent... On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark" > To: ; "Spridgets" > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? > > > You can't just "staple" Pelosi, you will need to drive a stake through her > heart. She did stand proudly and applauded at the notion that company > executives should not have their private jets, yet she through a fit until > she got a 757 for the "long trip home" every weekend. I would approve of > her riding in the bomb bay of B1B and just dropping her off when they got > close to the Golden Gate. > > > =================== > > If you are going to shoot your mouth off, you need to get your facts > straight. > > The Speaker of the House is required to fly on military aircraft -- not > private jets -- for security reasons since 9-11. The aircraft is required > to be able to make the trip non-stop. > > The then Speaker, Dennis Hastert, flew a Gulfstream C-20B back and forth to > IL. That plane is not capable of making the trip non-stop to California > when there is a strong headwind. Therefore, the House Sergeant-at-Arms, > not > Pelosi, requested the availability of a larger plane "when needed". To > date > she has only needed to use the larger plane, a C32, once and that was when > there was no smaller plane available. She has never flown a 757. > > Whatever you think of any of our wonderful public servants (?), making up > crap makes you look bad, not them. God knows there is enough truth out > there to nail them with. > > > LAD > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From cfchrist at earthlink.net Wed Feb 25 12:09:16 2009 From: cfchrist at earthlink.net (charles christ) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:09:16 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. Message-ID: <30154248.1235588956999.JavaMail.root@elwamui-mouette.atl.sa.earthlink.net> yes! chuck -----Original Message----- >From: Linda Grunthaner >Sent: Feb 17, 2009 4:38 AM >To: Spridget List >Subject: [Spridgets] Calling all 58's.......Bugeyes. > >List, >Does anyone on the list have a 58 Bugeye? >Linda From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 25 12:13:29 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:13:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <965124.73146.qm@web83908.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog sang: So does that mean that "2112" doesn't suck as badly as all of their other albums? Since we're on the subject, could someone tell me why Geddy Lee sings as if his balls were tied with fishing line? --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Brad Fornal wrote: From: Brad Fornal Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture To: "David Riker" Cc: "Spridgets List" Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:32 AM 2112 is the absolute BEST Rush album, From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 12:13:55 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:13:55 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Huh??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0902251113y2bc42fbfn3ad49f0963bae5b7@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:12 AM, wrote: > "As for our auto industry, everyone recognizes that years of bad > decision-making and a global recession have pushed our automakers to the > brink. We should not, and will not, protect them from their own bad > practices. But we are committed to the goal of a retooled, re-imagined auto > industry that can compete and win. Millions of jobs depend on it. Scores of > communities depend on it. And I believe the nation that invented the > automobile cannot walk away from it." Let's keep the story straight here.. It ain't just our auto manufacturers.... What's he gonna do - subsidize the global auto manufacturers? +++++++++++++++++++++++++ By Chang-Ran Kim and Helen Massy-Beresford TOKYO/PARIS (Reuters) - Feb. 6, 2009 - Toyota, the world's top carmaker, said its losses were ballooning as world car sales drop, while truckmaker Volvo swung to a fourth-quarter loss and Italy readied aid for the ailing industry. A sudden collapse in consumer demand last year battered automakers who were forced to cut production and shed jobs, leaving the sector and its related industries reeling. Governments have swung into action, preparing aid packages to help out their struggling car sectors. The Italian government on Friday approved a decree which included incentives worth more than 1,500 euros for trading-in cars which were more than 10 years old and buying a new one. The total value of the package for the car industry is worth between 1.2 billion euros ($1.5 billion) and 1.3 billion, a government source said. South African car industry representatives said they had approached the government for loans to help curb job losses. German's BMW, meanwhile, provided a rare glimmer of hope and its shares rose as it earned a clear profit in 2008 with fourth-quarter sales beating expectations. Fellow German car manufacturer Volkswagen AG'S January vehicle sales plunged a fifth, according to a source close to Europe's biggest auto maker. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 12:15:27 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:15:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood HVLP gun In-Reply-To: <60186C61C57A470A9A34239B822A3295@Home> References: <60186C61C57A470A9A34239B822A3295@Home> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902251115ta5721a9pab911a26eceab5d@mail.gmail.com> I'm looking at this gun too.... All comments gratefully received.... Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Eastwood is offering an inexpensive HVLP spray gun that only needs 4 cfm at > 29 psi, which is easy for an ordinary pancake compressor. The only review I > could find was positive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIHcHKeU2j4). > Anyone have experience with this gun? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 12:15:40 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:15:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> References: , <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP>, <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A5285C.20150.B0E62D@kk7ss.verizon.net> NOT !! On 25 Feb 2009 at 12:49, Jim Johnson wrote: >> Hmmm..... Guess I'm the only Benny Goodman and J.S. Bach fan >> here.... -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 12:18:45 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:18:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A5285C.20150.B0E62D@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP> <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> <49A5285C.20150.B0E62D@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902251118h77dc85c1ic9ac2cb5ca6b07b4@mail.gmail.com> Dave, If I could reach my walker I'd get up and shuffle over to shake your hand... Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Dave G. wrote: > NOT !! > > On 25 Feb 2009 at 12:49, Jim Johnson wrote: > > >> Hmmm..... Guess I'm the only Benny Goodman and J.S. Bach fan > >> here.... From pelliott at innercite.com Wed Feb 25 12:20:19 2009 From: pelliott at innercite.com (Patrick Elliott) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:20:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> Message-ID: <008201c9977e$1960af50$4c220df0$@com> I believe,... (just reminded me of a great Steve Martin skit) I believe the issue about the Airplane originally broke because Nancy was not happy with the passenger limitations of the G3 (C-20B), her office made a statement about when the plane is full of staffers, it cannot make the flight nonstop. (Which is a true statement). And it cannot carry as many people as they would like to take. Upon some investigation by the evil right, it turns out, Nancy likes to take her Grandkids, her staff and their kids, and others, thus limiting the range of the G3. I don't think Nancy gives a hoot about the model number of the plane she's in, She wants to be able to take her entourage nonstop whenever she goes and I think that's the point that should be addressed and argued. Who gets to fly on my dime with the speaker of the house or any other member of the government? From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 12:22:10 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:22:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902251122g1953148dv4b664b4830daaa88@mail.gmail.com> I'm still waiting for the 'change'. Herb From froggi60 at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 12:34:09 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:34:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Geek Stuff Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902251134v4dc37080y288be08b3e89ef0d@mail.gmail.com> For the spare time.... http://www.thinkgeek.com/ From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 12:41:45 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:41:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251118h77dc85c1ic9ac2cb5ca6b07b4@mail.gmail.com> References: , <49A5285C.20150.B0E62D@kk7ss.verizon.net>, <43840a7e0902251118h77dc85c1ic9ac2cb5ca6b07b4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A52E79.23036.C8C5F1@kk7ss.verizon.net> Jim, Consider it shook..and thanks... And to top it all.... Louis Belson just passed away... ;^(( Dave... On 25 Feb 2009 at 13:18, Jim Johnson wrote: >> Dave, >> If I could reach my walker I'd get up and shuffle over to shake your >> hand... Cheers!! Jim -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 12:51:09 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:51:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> References: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP> <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> No .. I'll see your Benny G but I'll raise you an early Miles Davis and an Art Blakey. chuck Jim Johnson wrote: > Hmmm..... Guess I'm the only Benny Goodman and J.S. Bach fan here.... From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Feb 25 12:55:32 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:55:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? Michael Rowe From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 13:20:48 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:20:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> References: , <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com>, <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> Message-ID: <49A537A0.14030.EC873D@kk7ss.verizon.net> I'll add Muggsy Spannier to the pot.... There!! Now you all know how old I am... On 25 Feb 2009 at 14:51, chuck wrote: >> No .. I'll see your Benny G but I'll raise you >> an early Miles Davis and an Art Blakey. -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 13:27:01 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:27:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A5285C.20150.B0E62D@kk7ss.verizon.net> References: , <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP>, <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> <49A5285C.20150.B0E62D@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <9527D9CB-88A0-4EF1-BD06-3B967CB239EF@comcast.net> Tocatta and Fuge in G minor man.. it's the shiz! Lester On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:15 PM, Dave G. wrote: > NOT !! > > On 25 Feb 2009 at 12:49, Jim Johnson wrote: > >>> Hmmm..... Guess I'm the only Benny Goodman and J.S. Bach fan >>> here.... > > > -- > Dave G. KK7SS > '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA > > If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still > alive !! From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Wed Feb 25 13:27:54 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:27:54 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> Message-ID: Too late to forecast! :) ----Original Message Follows---- How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? Michael Rowe From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 13:39:56 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:39:56 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10902251122g1953148dv4b664b4830daaa88@mail.gmail.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10902251122g1953148dv4b664b4830daaa88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902251239i7c19df6eq3e8042b29f4a28e@mail.gmail.com> Look in your pocket. Whatever change is there is all you are going to have when you get done paying the mortgages of those who don't know how to read the fine print on a loan form. Now THAT'S "Change you can believe in"! Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > I'm still waiting for the 'change'. > > Herb > __________ From mark at nashvilletn.org Wed Feb 25 13:41:05 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:41:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net><4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry><43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> Message-ID: December 21st 2012, according to the Mayan's. And, I don't want to hear any s*** from you Mayan sympathizers. :) Mark Nashville ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Rowe To: Jim Johnson ; Larry Daniels ; Spridgets List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? Michael Rowe From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 25 13:47:53 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:47:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <448376.33002.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog responded: Everyone stood-up to the BS ......... and voted to end the radical right-wing extremism. --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? To: "Larry Daniels" , "Spridgets List" Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 2:04 PM Some pretty nasty BS went around about people in the previous administration too. I hope you stood up against that as well... From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 13:48:41 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:48:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture References: , <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com>, <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> <49A537A0.14030.EC873D@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: As a kid I was a big fan of Spike Jones. Of course he was also a relative. Biff Jones [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1971 - Release Date: 02/25/09 06:40:00 From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 13:49:51 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:49:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902251249q103ef056x4927e91c8c25e5ab@mail.gmail.com> It's December 21st, 2012. The Maya forecast it a couple of thousand years ago. See: www.survive2012.com Hmmmm.... That would be the beginning of Obama's second term..... More important things to ponder..... 24 hours in a day - 24 cans of beer in a case.... coincidence? I think not! Cheers!! Jimstrodamus On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? > Michael Rowe From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 25 13:52:17 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 12:52:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <799948.21943.qm@web83909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog sez: Benny Goodman - Code name for Fletcher Henderson --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture To: Cc: "Spridgets List" Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:49 PM Hmmm..... Guess I'm the only Benny Goodman Fan From thcollin at mtu.edu Wed Feb 25 13:54:08 2009 From: thcollin at mtu.edu (Timothy H. Collins) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:54:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Transmission Question. Message-ID: <7l26uk$5lv7nn@email.mtu.edu> I have a ribcage transmission that I received in a parts purchase that was "worked on" by a DPO. I have been working on some obvious problems but haven't had the tranny in a car to really try it out. I did remove the "Locking screws" on the bottom of the tranny forward of the drain plug. One seems to be OK with the spring and plunger. The smaller headed screw looks like it should have two ball bearings followed by the "Locking screw" - part 2-3088 in the VB catalog and no spring. Is this correct that two ball bearings go in that spot? My shop manual makes it seem like one ball goes in with the locking screw and the other goes in the bottom right corner hole in the side cover and that doesn't make much sense either. Help! Tim Collins http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Feb 25 13:58:28 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:58:28 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? Message-ID: "The end of the world as we know it?" And I feel fine... Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Jim Johnson" ; "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" Sent: 2/25/09 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? Michael Rowe You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 14:02:28 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:02:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8B3678BB010546CBA81C47AE760440DE@Larry> No need to make up stuff about them... the truth was damaging enough. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Johnson To: Larry Daniels ; Spridgets List Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? I'm far from a supporter of the speaker or her policies, but you are absolutely correct about the BS rumor mill going in this country. I would caution however that this pendulum does swing both ways..... Some pretty nasty BS went around about people in the previous administration too. I hope you stood up against that as well... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - seeking to be independent... On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Larry Daniels wrote: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark" To: ; "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? You can't just "staple" Pelosi, you will need to drive a stake through her heart. She did stand proudly and applauded at the notion that company executives should not have their private jets, yet she through a fit until she got a 757 for the "long trip home" every weekend. I would approve of her riding in the bomb bay of B1B and just dropping her off when they got close to the Golden Gate. =================== If you are going to shoot your mouth off, you need to get your facts straight. The Speaker of the House is required to fly on military aircraft -- not private jets -- for security reasons since 9-11. The aircraft is required to be able to make the trip non-stop. The then Speaker, Dennis Hastert, flew a Gulfstream C-20B back and forth to IL. That plane is not capable of making the trip non-stop to California when there is a strong headwind. Therefore, the House Sergeant-at-Arms, not Pelosi, requested the availability of a larger plane "when needed". To date she has only needed to use the larger plane, a C32, once and that was when there was no smaller plane available. She has never flown a 757. Whatever you think of any of our wonderful public servants (?), making up crap makes you look bad, not them. God knows there is enough truth out there to nail them with. LAD _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From jimndi at frontiernet.net Wed Feb 25 14:07:58 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Founier) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:07:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music Message-ID: <897872AF24CF470D99CF0FC5E97B5E7D@MAINCOMPUTER> Now for some real music, you have got to listen to "screamin" Jay Hawkins. Does anyone remember Him? I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra From conan at intrex.net Wed Feb 25 14:16:41 2009 From: conan at intrex.net (conan) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:16:41 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture Message-ID: <200902251616.AA3079667870@intrex.net> >> Hmmm..... Guess I'm the only Benny Goodman and J.S. Bach fan here.... Dunno Benny's stuff but I like JSB. Listen to a classical radio station most every night! It may not be GM, but it is cultural! :-) :-) :-) From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 14:19:08 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:19:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -- like most everything these days Message-ID: <643E643E0A764F00AEB0911B592CBA5A@Larry> I just read an AP story about how prehistoric fish had actual sex. That does it. No more water for me... I'm sticking to Scotch. LAD From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 14:25:27 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:25:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Put Pelosi on an EMB Message-ID: <37dc82d40902251325q29f94f22h5cd9e152e9a1c996@mail.gmail.com> When the first EMB's came over from Brazil the props were not dialed in correctly. Sen. Hightower lost his life taking a short political jaunt on one, along with Astronaut Sonny Carter. *Found this: Atlantic Southeast Airlines Flight 2311 , crashed in Brunswick , Georgia on April 5, 1991. The crash claimed the lives of all twenty-three people on board, including former U.S. Senator John Tower of Texasand astronaut Sonny Carter. This was due to propeller control failure. * Later on, working for a large corporation, I used to fly on EMB's out of the Atlanta hub for a short jump to Chattanooga. Two rows of seats to one side, one row of seats on the other. Kind of a different design - no doubt built by the manufacturer who came in with the lowest bid. Flight attendants? Not really. Just like on a Fairchild 16 passenger (I flew on one of those at least once a week with a job I had managing the 11 Western States for the same company) - - - the "flight attendant" was comprised of a cassette that was plugged into a cassette player with instructions played through the airplane. The pilots looked like they were barely old enough to have their drivers licenses - real nice guys - but super young guys who were making their way up the ranks to fly full size commercial jets. Fun times! Also for more and a pic of this unusual plane (at least a unusual one for me) see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_120_Brasilia Kirk 59BE From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 14:35:42 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:35:42 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <448376.33002.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> <448376.33002.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902251335q58ee7641i85e3431af62c7e10@mail.gmail.com> I see. So the Democrats are perfect and can do no wrong. The Republicans can do no right. Have I got that right? Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:47 PM, wrote: > tinydog responded: > > Everyone stood-up to the BS ......... and voted to end the radical > right-wing extremism. > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > From: Jim Johnson > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? > To: "Larry Daniels" , "Spridgets List" < > spridgets at autox.team.net> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 2:04 PM > > Some pretty > nasty BS went around about people in the previous administration too. I > hope > you stood up against that as well... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 14:39:27 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:39:27 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> <49A537A0.14030.EC873D@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902251339p26a5ab56y9947e1a306c1a55f@mail.gmail.com> Biff, I have every Spike Jones recording made. Is it acceptable nowadays to admit that you like him or that he's a relative?? I mean... since he murdered his wife and died in prison and all .... ;-( Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Biff Jones wrote: > As a kid I was a big fan of Spike Jones. > > Of course he was also a relative. > > Biff Jones From jimndi at frontiernet.net Wed Feb 25 14:39:32 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Founier) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:39:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music Message-ID: <203BC1C531B944B6A2C9EBCBA0AFE2DA@MAINCOMPUTER> Or...... How about Clarence "Frogman" Henry. I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 14:43:46 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:43:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music In-Reply-To: <897872AF24CF470D99CF0FC5E97B5E7D@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <897872AF24CF470D99CF0FC5E97B5E7D@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <49A5BB92.3050805@verizon.net> I put a spell on you! Jim Founier wrote: > Now for some real music, you have got to listen to "screamin" Jay Hawkins. > Does anyone remember Him? From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 25 14:45:08 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:45:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music In-Reply-To: <897872AF24CF470D99CF0FC5E97B5E7D@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <615160.71623.qm@web83901.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog can name that tune in one note: I Put A Spell On You and Constipation Blues --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Jim Founier wrote: From: Jim Founier Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:07 PM Now for some real music, you have got to listen to "screamin" Jay Hawkins. Does anyone remember Him? From jimndi at frontiernet.net Wed Feb 25 14:45:44 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Founier) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:45:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music References: <897872AF24CF470D99CF0FC5E97B5E7D@MAINCOMPUTER> <49A5BB92.3050805@verizon.net> Message-ID: Show off! I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra ----- Original Message ----- From: "chuck" To: "Jim Founier" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Real Music >I put a spell on you! > > Jim Founier wrote: >> Now for some real music, you have got to listen to "screamin" Jay >> Hawkins. >> Does anyone remember Him? >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1969 - Release Date: 02/24/09 06:43:00 From jimndi at frontiernet.net Wed Feb 25 14:50:47 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim Founier) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:50:47 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Name that tune Message-ID: <5DDE5385164140CEA61FE90B0CFA3FA2@MAINCOMPUTER> OK wise guys. A group from Port Jervis N.Y. had a national #1 Hit in 1957. Name the group and the Tune... I'm Not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 14:51:07 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:51:07 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Put Pelosi on an EMB References: <37dc82d40902251325q29f94f22h5cd9e152e9a1c996@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49447F9E41704E7693041E3ACDAE371D@Larry> I remember taking a flight from Cancun to Cozumel. Two REAL young pilots -- I don't think one of them was shaving yet. Evidently, Mexico's version of our FAA wasn't as hung up on safety as ours was. The seats filled up and there was more people waiting to get on board, so they set up folding chairs in the aisles. A couple of the locals brought live chickens on board with them. It was -- interesting. I recall looking out the window and seeing the runway at Cozumel while we were pretty high yet. I figured we were going to do our approach from the other direction. At the last minute, they dropped the nose and dove down to the runway. As bad as our airlines are at times, I'll stick with them and be happy about it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirk Hargreaves" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:25 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Put Pelosi on an EMB When the first EMB's came over from Brazil the props were not dialed in correctly. Sen. Hightower lost his life taking a short political jaunt on one, along with Astronaut Sonny Carter. *Found this: Atlantic Southeast Airlines Flight 2311 , crashed in Brunswick , Georgia on April 5, 1991. The crash claimed the lives of all twenty-three people on board, including former U.S. Senator John Tower of Texasand astronaut Sonny Carter. This was due to propeller control failure. * Later on, working for a large corporation, I used to fly on EMB's out of the Atlanta hub for a short jump to Chattanooga. Two rows of seats to one side, one row of seats on the other. Kind of a different design - no doubt built by the manufacturer who came in with the lowest bid. Flight attendants? Not really. Just like on a Fairchild 16 passenger (I flew on one of those at least once a week with a job I had managing the 11 Western States for the same company) - - - the "flight attendant" was comprised of a cassette that was plugged into a cassette player with instructions played through the airplane. The pilots looked like they were barely old enough to have their drivers licenses - real nice guys - but super young guys who were making their way up the ranks to fly full size commercial jets. Fun times! Also for more and a pic of this unusual plane (at least a unusual one for me) see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_120_Brasilia Kirk 59BE You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 25 14:57:31 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:57:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music In-Reply-To: <203BC1C531B944B6A2C9EBCBA0AFE2DA@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <200577.26625.qm@web83907.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog sez: Yes: "Ain't Got No Home" and was later included in the movie "Diner". --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Jim Founier wrote: From: Jim Founier Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:39 PM Or...... How about Clarence "Frogman" Henry. From nory1 at roadrunner.com Wed Feb 25 15:06:03 2009 From: nory1 at roadrunner.com (nory1 at roadrunner.com) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:06:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -- like most everything these days In-Reply-To: <643E643E0A764F00AEB0911B592CBA5A@Larry> Message-ID: <20090225220603.798OX.125238.root@hrndva-web10-z02> Um, hate to break this to you, but modern fish have actual sex to. Water is full of sperm and eggs. ---- Larry Daniels wrote: > I just read an AP story about how prehistoric fish had actual sex. > > > That does it. No more water for me... I'm sticking to Scotch. > > > LAD From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 25 15:11:34 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:11:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251335q58ee7641i85e3431af62c7e10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <291987.75916.qm@web83916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog responded: Didn't say that, Jim. I said what I meant. The radical Cheney administration ran roughshod over the Constitution, started an extra war, lied about several important things, cost many people their lives in terms of fatalities, crippling physical injury and emotional scarring, and oh, helped wreck the economy. Democrats aren't blameless, not by a long-shot, but the black sheep of the Bush Family (by their own admissions) was off the scale. We're all in uncharted waters right now and it won't do the country any good what-so-ever to engage in petty sniping such as that defined and practiced by the equally radical and right-wing Republican Talk Radio hosts. Supporters of the Bush Administration tried to paint anyone and everyone who didn't support their policies as extreme leftists when in reality most of the country gave them much latitude after "9/11" to do whatever they wanted. No, Jim. People that disagreed with the Bush/Cheney power machine were like most people. They were people that liked their politics middle-of-the-road. We were all abused by these two cowboys. I didn't vote for Bush but supported him after the attacks in New York and Washington and felt he would be a better Commander-in-Chief than Al Gore. President Bush proved me wrong on that point. It was a sad 8 years. And now, may God bless us all. --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Jim Johnson wrote: From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? To: Cc: "Spridgets List" Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:35 PM I see. So the Democrats are perfect and can do no wrong. The Republicans can do no right. Have I got that right? Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:47 PM, wrote: > tinydog responded: > > Everyone stood-up to the BS ......... and voted to end the radical > right-wing extremism. From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 15:10:57 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:10:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -- like most everything these days References: <20090225220603.798OX.125238.root@hrndva-web10-z02> Message-ID: <578401FB9D1245B8BEB822BA3B4711BD@Larry> Oh, thanks for telling me. I hope I don't throw up my Scotch. ;-)) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT -- like most everything these days Um, hate to break this to you, but modern fish have actual sex to. Water is full of sperm and eggs. ---- Larry Daniels wrote: > I just read an AP story about how prehistoric fish had actual sex. > > > That does it. No more water for me... I'm sticking to Scotch. > > > LAD From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 15:16:05 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:16:05 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com><448376.33002.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902251335q58ee7641i85e3431af62c7e10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <386D1B5BD052439E843FDE952295A41A@Larry> For a group that, on average, ranks somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun and is not shy about espousing their vagaries on a regular basis, you sure do get touchy when someone from the other side dares to speak up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" Cc: "Spridgets List" Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? I see. So the Democrats are perfect and can do no wrong. The Republicans can do no right. Have I got that right? Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:47 PM, wrote: > tinydog responded: > > Everyone stood-up to the BS ......... and voted to end the radical > right-wing extremism. > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Jim Johnson wrote: > From: Jim Johnson > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? > To: "Larry Daniels" , "Spridgets List" < > spridgets at autox.team.net> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 2:04 PM > > Some pretty > nasty BS went around about people in the previous administration too. I > hope > you stood up against that as well... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Feb 25 15:18:23 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:18:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Sprite Transmission Question. References: <7l26uk$5lv7nn@email.mtu.edu> Message-ID: The other balls get dropped into the holes before the shift rods are put in. Its easier to understand if you take it apart. Look at the detents on the shift rods and you can see where balls ned to be to "feel" the detents. Glen >I have a ribcage transmission that I received in a parts purchase that was >"worked on" by a DPO. I have been working on some obvious problems but >haven't had the tranny in a car to really try it out. > > I did remove the "Locking screws" on the bottom of the tranny forward of > the drain plug. One seems to be OK with the spring and plunger. The > smaller headed screw looks like it should have two ball bearings followed > by the "Locking screw" - part 2-3088 in the VB catalog and no spring. Is > this correct that two ball bearings go in that spot? > > My shop manual makes it seem like one ball goes in with the locking screw > and the other goes in the bottom right corner hole in the side cover and > that doesn't make much sense either. > > Help! > > Tim Collins > http://www.flickr.com/photos/12702006 at N07/ > _______________________________________________ From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Wed Feb 25 15:20:13 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:20:13 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com><448376.33002.qm@web83911.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902251335q58ee7641i85e3431af62c7e10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Read the paper and tell me how they did for the last eight years. Glen >I see. So the Democrats are perfect and can do no wrong. The Republicans > can do no right. Have I got that right? > > Cheers!! > Jim From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 15:20:22 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:20:22 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> References: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP> <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> Message-ID: I'll raise with a Dave Brubeck.. Lester On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:51 PM, chuck wrote: > No .. I'll see your Benny G but I'll raise you > an early Miles Davis and an Art Blakey. > > chuck > > Jim Johnson wrote: >> Hmmm..... Guess I'm the only Benny Goodman and J.S. Bach fan >> here.... > _______________________________________________ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 15:20:28 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:20:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> Message-ID: Pfft.. you saw who was elected Pres?! I thought that it was self explanatory.. ;-) Lester On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? > Michael Rowe > ____________ From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 15:25:21 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:25:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: , <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com>, <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> <49A537A0.14030.EC873D@kk7ss.verizon.net> Message-ID: <0E095882-3E2A-4D0B-9AD7-62362796AB49@comcast.net> .. as in "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor on the Bedpost Overnight?" That one? Lester On Feb 25, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Biff Jones wrote: > As a kid I was a big fan of Spike Jones. > > Of course he was also a relative. > > Biff Jones From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 15:27:02 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:27:02 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Name that tune In-Reply-To: <5DDE5385164140CEA61FE90B0CFA3FA2@MAINCOMPUTER> References: <5DDE5385164140CEA61FE90B0CFA3FA2@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <231F0509-1BEA-4A23-934B-21899E3BD45C@comcast.net> The Yankee's?? ;-) Lester On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Jim Founier wrote: > OK wise guys. A group from Port Jervis N.Y. had a national #1 Hit > in 1957. > Name the group and the Tune... > > > > > > I'm Not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to > school like I > had to. > Yogi Berra > __________ From tinydog at snet.net Wed Feb 25 15:27:26 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:27:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Name that tune In-Reply-To: <5DDE5385164140CEA61FE90B0CFA3FA2@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <330962.83134.qm@web83913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog sez: The Kalin Twins "When" --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Jim Founier wrote: From: Jim Founier Subject: [Spridgets] Name that tune To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:50 PM OK wise guys. A group from Port Jervis N.Y. had a national #1 Hit in 1957. Name the group and the Tune... From biffjones at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 15:29:46 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:29:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Name that tune References: <5DDE5385164140CEA61FE90B0CFA3FA2@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: Danny and the Juniors....... At the Hop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Founier" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:50 Subject: [Spridgets] Name that tune > OK wise guys. A group from Port Jervis N.Y. had a national #1 Hit in > 1957. > Name the group and the Tune... [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1971 - Release Date: 02/25/09 06:40:00 From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Feb 25 15:30:12 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:30:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture References: <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com><49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net><49A537A0.14030.EC873D@kk7ss.verizon.net> <43840a7e0902251339p26a5ab56y9947e1a306c1a55f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > I have every Spike Jones recording made. NOW I am jealous! From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Wed Feb 25 15:32:58 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:32:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251249q103ef056x4927e91c8c25e5ab@mail.gmail.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> <43840a7e0902251249q103ef056x4927e91c8c25e5ab@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <004501c99799$0324e5b0$096eb110$@net> WOW!!!! What a thread this has been. Frankly, 99.9% of ALL the politicians are crooks and only say what they want you to hear. ALL of them are looking out for their best interests and they occasionally look out for their constituents so they can get re-elected in next go around. As far as Obama..he is the prez at this moment so I say give the guy a chance to see if he can get something done. The previous occupant wasnt the brightest cookie in the box and pretty much helped his buddies QUITE like a lot of the previous occupants so maybe it is time for a new approach IN MY OPINION what has went wrong with this country is that we stopped looking out for EACH OTHER and became more focused on "I". Screw the other guy as long as I get mine!! Now the rooster has come home to roost but his buddies are too busy worrying about themselves individually. I am sure that I have just inflamed some...Oh well...Hit the delete key. Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1971 - Release Date: 2/25/2009 6:40 AM From jdinnis at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 15:52:32 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:52:32 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Put Pelosi on an EMB In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902251325q29f94f22h5cd9e152e9a1c996@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902251325q29f94f22h5cd9e152e9a1c996@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure what your point here is, besides wishing a horrible death on the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. The Propeller that malfunctioned and its control system were made in the USA and FAA approved. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > When the first EMB's came over from Brazil the props were not dialed in > correctly. Sen. Hightower lost his life taking a short political jaunt on > one, along with Astronaut Sonny Carter. > > *Found this: > > Atlantic Southeast > Airlines > Flight > 2311 , > crashed in Brunswick , > Georgia on April 5, > 1991. The crash claimed the lives of all twenty-three people on board, > including former U.S. > Senator John > Tower of > Texasand > astronaut Sonny > Carter. > This was due to propeller control > failure. > * > Later on, working for a large corporation, I used to fly on EMB's out of the > Atlanta hub for a short jump to > Chattanooga. > > Two rows of seats to one side, one row of seats on the other. Kind of a > different design - no doubt built by the manufacturer who came in with the > lowest bid. > > Flight attendants? Not really. Just like on a Fairchild 16 passenger (I > flew on one of those at least once a week with a job I had managing the 11 > Western States for the same company) - - - the "flight attendant" was > comprised of a cassette that was plugged into a cassette player with > instructions played through the airplane. > > The pilots looked like they were barely old enough to have their drivers > licenses - real nice guys - but super young guys who were making their way > up the ranks to fly full size commercial jets. > > Fun times! > > Also for more and a pic of this unusual plane (at least a unusual one for > me) see: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_120_Brasilia > > Kirk > 59BE > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From cciaffone at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 15:55:33 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:55:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP> <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> Message-ID: <49A5CC65.4020900@verizon.net> Far More Drums with Morello???? Lester wrote: > I'll raise with a Dave Brubeck.. > > Lester From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Feb 25 16:26:45 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:26:45 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Name that tune In-Reply-To: <231F0509-1BEA-4A23-934B-21899E3BD45C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20090225232648.IVHX18256.hrndva-omta03.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> No no no...that was the Braves. You got it back the next year. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:27 PM Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Name that tune The Yankee's?? ;-) Lester On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Jim Founier wrote: > OK wise guys. A group from Port Jervis N.Y. had a national #1 Hit > in 1957. > Name the group and the Tune... From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Feb 25 16:28:14 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:28:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music In-Reply-To: <897872AF24CF470D99CF0FC5E97B5E7D@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <370026.1073.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Jim Founier wrote: > Now for some real music, you have got to listen to > "screamin" Jay Hawkins. > Does anyone remember Him? I saw him open for the Stones in 1981 at Madison Sq. Garden, along with Tina Turner. Ron From jimndi at frontiernet.net Wed Feb 25 16:29:37 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:29:37 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Name That Tune Message-ID: Someone throw tinydog a biscuit. He's a winner. I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra From wbmcleod at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 16:33:28 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:33:28 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: <9BAB8892F52E443790B69BFDAA677A31@MAIN> <1453EC44326249198F621858D60E47F3@AndrewHP> <43840a7e0902251049x7cfa0b3je3015fae43588c58@mail.gmail.com> <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> Message-ID: <49A5D548.2060705@gmail.com> Can I get in this game with a couple of Mahlers, a Sebelius, a Red Dirt Girl and an Allison Krause? Bill Lester wrote: > I'll raise with a Dave Brubeck.. > > Lester > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:51 PM, chuck wrote: > >> No .. I'll see your Benny G but I'll raise you >> an early Miles Davis and an Art Blakey. >> >> chuck >> >> Jim Johnson wrote: >>> Hmmm..... Guess I'm the only Benny Goodman and J.S. Bach fan here.... >> _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wbmcleod at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 16:44:52 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:44:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Punk and Billy Zoom Message-ID: <37dc82d40902251544x5b32f84fx6cecc121331ec52c@mail.gmail.com> It seems to me that Billy's music is a mix. It has a punk flavor but he also rips off some guitar work that reminds me more of Rockabilly as well. I can hear a wide spectrum of influences in his guitar playing. . .a musically aware guitarist which is something that I do not always associate with a lot of Punk groups. Plus his guitar tones are superb. I don't hear tone like that with punk groups these days. To me, he is his own thing with a broader source of influences. . . my 1 cent of thought anyway. Kirk 59BE '74 Les Paul (a true Norlin era gem) LOL '85 Strat And a future Billy Zoom Gretsch tribute model! From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 16:47:40 2009 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music In-Reply-To: <203BC1C531B944B6A2C9EBCBA0AFE2DA@MAINCOMPUTER> Message-ID: <579986478.961821235605660781.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Hey Jim--You talkin' some down home good music there. I had the exciting and rare opportunity to hear Clarence "Frogman" Henry live and in person a few years ago. Actually, we had tickets and had gone to Knoxville to hear Eric Clapton, but little did we know that Clapton's opening act was "Frogman" Henry. In my mind, he almost upstaged Clapton. LOL But the two in one show was riveting! 8^) On a personal note, my son is a professional rock drummer. Give his band, Down From Up, a listen on: downfromup.com And they are getting ready to release their 2nd CD. If you like them it can be had. Son Andy (Campbell) is a regional winner of the annual national "Drum Off" and his lead guitar player, Andy Wood is the national guitar champion, and I think, the national mandolin champion, or close to it. The whole band are all trained musicians, not just "hit and bangers". 8^) --David C. If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Founier" To: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:39:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music Or...... How about Clarence "Frogman" Henry. I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From mdrowe at optonline.net Wed Feb 25 16:53:32 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:53:32 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> Message-ID: > Pfft.. you saw who was elected Pres?! I thought that it was self > explanatory.. I don't have much respect for racial bigotry. Does anyone else on this list? Michael Rowe > > ;-) > > Lester > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > >> How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? >> Michael Rowe >> ____________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kk7ss at verizon.net Wed Feb 25 16:54:47 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:54:47 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <0E095882-3E2A-4D0B-9AD7-62362796AB49@comcast.net> References: , , <0E095882-3E2A-4D0B-9AD7-62362796AB49@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49A569C7.4687.1B07112@kk7ss.verizon.net> That was Lonnie Donnegan (skiffle) whoused to play for Chris Barber. On 25 Feb 2009 at 16:25, Lester wrote: >> .. as in "Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor on the Bedpost >> Overnight?" That one? -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 17:57:24 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:57:24 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net><4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry><43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com><10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> Message-ID: Michael, I would refer back to my estimation of the mean attitudes on this list being to the right of Attila the Hun. If you will recall, we even had one clown refer to Obama as a Muslim. It knows no bounds. Sad, but true. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Rowe" To: "Spridgets List" Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? > Pfft.. you saw who was elected Pres?! I thought that it was self > explanatory.. I don't have much respect for racial bigotry. Does anyone else on this list? Michael Rowe > > ;-) > > Lester > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > >> How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? >> Michael Rowe >> ____________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Feb 25 18:07:37 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:07:37 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? Message-ID: Well, I try to have respect for everyone... So, no, but I support the right for yes. I am surprised by many things in the current political arena, but the bigotry is less than I feared. Hell, many bigots I know voted Obama. This thread started as a car thread laughing at a car blooper few in the news have commented on. But we devolved(or de-designed). The sad thing is that this nation has fallen to a bipartisan mania that seems to overshadow the issues, the truth, and even the happiest car on earth. Drew -----Original Message----- From: "Michael Rowe" I don't have much respect for racial bigotry. Does anyone else on this list? Michael Rowe > > ;-) > > Lester > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > >> How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? >> Michael Rowe >> ____________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mdrowe at optonline.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From dlh2001 at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 18:09:49 2009 From: dlh2001 at comcast.net (Dean Hedin) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:09:49 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com><49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Daniels" > God knows there is enough truth out > there to nail them with. Right, like giving big hugs to billion dollar Ponzi con artist. Several politicians accepted donations from Stanford and have since donated this money to charities. But I have not yet heard a statement from Pelosi commenting on the hug thing.. From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 18:23:39 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:23:39 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Real Music In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A5EF1B.8060405@sbcglobal.net> Listening to NPR this afternoon and heard that J.J. Cale has just released a new album. Should be good, but he's SEVENTY years old! Yikes!!! Lee From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 25 18:26:04 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:26:04 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A5A12D.8040000@verizon.net> Message-ID: > No .. I'll see your Benny G but I'll raise you > an early Miles Davis and an Art Blakey. I'll see your Bach and raise you a Prokofiev. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 25 18:26:54 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:26:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <9527D9CB-88A0-4EF1-BD06-3B967CB239EF@comcast.net> Message-ID: > Tocatta and Fuge in G minor man.. it's the shiz! Very Goth, Dude! From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 25 18:32:19 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:32:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251339p26a5ab56y9947e1a306c1a55f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > since he murdered > his wife and died in prison and all .... ;-( That was Spade Cooley. From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 18:37:34 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:37:34 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cleaning fuel tank In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A5F25E.1040008@sbcglobal.net> Frank, The outside of the tank has undercoating and my wife wasn't too keen on BBQ-ing the tank, although I wanted to try. Bill, I was very tempted to just put it back, as you suggested, but ended up putting a gallon of lacquer thinner and some pea gravel in the tank and sloshing it around for awhile. Didn't take long and did a great job. Put the new sender in and mounted the tank and enjoyed the 60 degree day. Lee PS: I am getting some smell/leakage from the flexible hose. Do these thing become porous over time, or do I just need a new clamp? From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 25 18:37:42 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:37:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <0E095882-3E2A-4D0B-9AD7-62362796AB49@comcast.net> Message-ID: > Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor That was Lonnie Donegan. How can you guys not know Spike Jones? Cocktails for Two was my favorite, but anything with Doodles Weaver was cool too. BTW, I did a few shows with Doodles. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 25 18:38:42 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 17:38:42 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Put Pelosi on an EMB In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I'm not sure what your point here is, besides wishing a horrible death > on the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. That works for me...for starters. From shop at justbrits.com Wed Feb 25 18:56:04 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Put Pelosi on an EMB In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <> Yep. BEST part, Billy ?? INSURES she does NOT ever get to "assume" the top job after the assassinations !!!! Q: What is the WORST job in the Country today??? A: Being assigned to the Presidential Secret Service detail !!! NOT enough money in the world to make me work THAT job today !!! From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Wed Feb 25 18:56:40 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture References: Message-ID: >> Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor > That was Lonnie Donegan. How can you guys not know Spike Jones? > Cocktails for Two was my favorite, but anything with Doodles Weaver was > cool > too. BTW, I did a few shows with Doodles. I have quite a few Spike Jones things. I think my favorite CD of his music was the album named "Spiked!" which was bold enough NOT to simply collect the same old standards as everybody else. Instead, they sought out some of the good stuff that most of us never heard. My favorite was his unfinished work called "Frantic Freeway". It never got any lyrics, but the music is great fun. The album ends with Spike's rendition of "The Nutcracker Suite". I had been looking for it unsuccessfully for years. Growing up I used to listen to it on the reel-to-reel tapes that my parents had pirated from a relative's two disk set on 78rpm (the flip side of the tape was the pirating of Burl Ives' great children's album of 1958 entitled "Captain Burl Ives' Ark"; just TRY to find that one!). It was nice to get it on CD and find out what all the broken tapes were missing ;-) David Lieb From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 19:04:34 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:04:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> Message-ID: <49A5F8B2.8040202@comcast.net> Michael Rowe wrote: > How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? The Aztecs did and Nostradamus will too as soon as it happens. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 19:10:20 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:10:20 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <2ad6c6b10902251122g1953148dv4b664b4830daaa88@mail.gmail.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10902251122g1953148dv4b664b4830daaa88@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A5FA0C.7010104@comcast.net> WFO Herb wrote: > I'm still waiting for the 'change'. > > It's coming, all 50 cents. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 19:20:25 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:20:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Turn indicator socket In-Reply-To: <20090225.114656.3244.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> References: <20090225.114656.3244.0@webmail03.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <49A5FC69.6000205@comcast.net> Mark Haynes wrote: > Now I find that the indicator light on the dash doesn't have a socket The light green wire to the dash indicator has (had) you basic Lucas spring tab socket, same socket as on the oil and gas gauge. Or do you mean the back of the green lens on the dash? If you need a socket and bulb, I have a few spares and will gladly send you one. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Wed Feb 25 19:33:59 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 20:33:59 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? Message-ID: <495617B0F634471F9B335909DAA8FBE2@Larry> ----- Original Message ----- From: "brian S" To: "spridgets list" Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Huh??? Now now Larry, YOU should get your facts straight before YOU start spouting off. A C-20b is the same as a Gulfstream 3, it's range is about 3700nm which is intercontinental range, meaning it can go non-stop to Europe. Has more than enough range to reach Califirnia from the east coast, which is only about 2500nm. A C21, aka Lear 35 is much smaller and cannot fly non-stop coast to coast. It would need to refuel in Kansas or Wyoming, take about 30 mins. Wouldn't want her to have to wait for that would we???? You say that she has used the B757 only once and never the c32? ummmm, they are the SAME plane!! Air Force has plenty of smaller planes than a 757, Lear 35s, G3's, Dc9's and B737s. See them all the time. At least she didn't have the gall to ask for a 747. how come George W got to fly home on a 747 after Obama's inauguration, and not something smaller????? I too caught the we invented the automobile, who writes this crap for him? or was that an ad-lib? Brian S. Bugeyeracr finally resto'ed! Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! ======================== Well, Brian, since you have bothered to spout off, here you go: The range question was just answered by somebody else. Read the post again; I said she flew the C32, not the 757 -- a civilian version of the C32. Cousins, if you will, but different planes. I'll split that hair if you want to call me out on it. I'm sure the Air Force has many planes (they are, after all, the Air Force). I only said that was the only plane available to her at that time. Read the post. Again. I'll refrain from telling you about getting your facts straight. But get your facts straight. From andrewpayne at intrex.net Wed Feb 25 19:36:43 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:36:43 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Put Pelosi on an EMB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: THIS POST GOES TOO FAR! -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ed's Shop Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:56 PM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Put Pelosi on an EMB <> Yep. BEST part, Billy ?? INSURES she does NOT ever get to "assume" the top job after the assassinations !!!! Q: What is the WORST job in the Country today??? A: Being assigned to the Presidential Secret Service detail !!! NOT enough money in the world to make me work THAT job today !!! You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Feb 25 19:38:40 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:38:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A600B0.6050608@frontiernet.net> I'll raise two George Shearings, eight Ray Conniffs, and a pair of Bruebecks. Kate Billy Zoom wrote: >> No .. I'll see your Benny G but I'll raise you >> an early Miles Davis and an Art Blakey. >> > I'll see your Bach and raise you a Prokofiev. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Wed Feb 25 19:44:33 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:44:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Spiked is available at Amazon.com: *http://tinyurl.com/bfvlom As well as most if not all of his albums (er, CDs). Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 * On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:56 PM, David Lieb wrote: > Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor >>> >> That was Lonnie Donegan. How can you guys not know Spike Jones? >> Cocktails for Two was my favorite, but anything with Doodles Weaver was >> cool >> too. BTW, I did a few shows with Doodles. >> > > I have quite a few Spike Jones things. I think my favorite CD of his music > was the album named "Spiked!" which was bold enough NOT to simply collect > the same old standards as everybody else. Instead, they sought out some of > the good stuff that most of us never heard. My favorite was his unfinished > work called "Frantic Freeway". It never got any lyrics, but the music is > great fun. The album ends with Spike's rendition of "The Nutcracker Suite". > I had been looking for it unsuccessfully for years. > David Lieb _______________________________________________ From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Wed Feb 25 20:07:03 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (Chris Manuel) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:07:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A600B0.6050608@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20090226030705.PICV5672.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@BASEMENTDELL> ok. Box set of 101 Strings and Gordon Jenkins. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Kathryn Bales Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:39 PM Cc: spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture I'll raise two George Shearings, eight Ray Conniffs, and a pair of Bruebecks. Kate Billy Zoom wrote: >> No .. I'll see your Benny G but I'll raise you an early Miles Davis >> and an Art Blakey. >> > I'll see your Bach and raise you a Prokofiev. From shop at justbrits.com Wed Feb 25 20:10:28 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:10:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] FW: [Mgs] Need an independant inspector to look at an MG in the Deltona, Florida area. Message-ID: >From MGs List if anybody can assist !! Ed PS: Reply to Jim NOT me !!! ********************************************************* -----Original Message----- From: James Schulte [mailto:schultejim at msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:22 PM To: Mgs at autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Need an independant inspector to look at an MG in the Deltona, Florida area. Please get back to me ASAP if you are ready willing and able to look at a 1958 MG Magnette in the Deltona, Florida area. I have a verbal agreement and just need some one to verify what pictures show as a outstanding rebuild. Jim Schulte Aquatic Coordinator Souderton Area S.D. Former Secretary of the Philadelphia MG Club You are subscribed as shop at justbrits.com Mgs at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs http://www.team.net/archive From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 25 20:15:09 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:15:09 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > favorite CD of his music Thank you, music lovers, or Dinner Music For People Who Aren't Very Hungry. From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 20:22:16 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:22:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49A44895.145.295AB39@kk7ss.verizon.net> <4B20CE60BDF941EEB64CF5C29E98050D@Larry> <43840a7e0902251104h1b2bd883k2d6bcb12e030ffac@mail.gmail.com> <10AC6978FB674D8C9E416DD3910765EF@Home> Message-ID: .. Boy that came out of left field... please understand, I don't like him because he associates with terrorists and bigots (although that stopped when he noticed that it might cost him an election) Lester On Feb 25, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> Pfft.. you saw who was elected Pres?! I thought that it was self >> explanatory.. > > I don't have much respect for racial bigotry. Does anyone else on > this list? > > Michael Rowe > > > >> >> ;-) >> >> Lester >> >> On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> >>> How come no one has forecast the end of the world as we know it? >>> Michael Rowe >>> ____________ From shop at justbrits.com Wed Feb 25 20:28:36 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:28:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A600B0.6050608@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <> I'll raise ya four Eartha Kitts, four Peggy Lees & FIVE Vikki Carrs, Kate !!!! From shop at justbrits.com Wed Feb 25 20:40:37 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:40:37 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cleaning fuel tank In-Reply-To: <49A5F25E.1040008@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <> Isn't that what aluminum foil is for Lee???? Ed PS: But your method IS fine (ditto a length of chain). And I also would NOT do the interior 'sealer'!!! 'Seals' the screen as well as tank. LOL From soavero at yahoo.com Wed Feb 25 20:47:52 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:47:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A600B0.6050608@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <945645.16770.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> At the risk of this turning into a Monty Python sketch ("Shoebox? Luxury!), I've got maybe 300 classical records, lots of jazz from the 1930's forward, lots of blues from Robert Johnson, rock from A(lvin) to Z(oom), etc., but I would be willing to bet a year's pay that I'm the only person on the list to work out to Brian Jones' recording of the Moroccan Joujouka tribe tonight. Ron --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Kathryn Bales wrote: > From: Kathryn Bales > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > To: > Cc: "spridget list" > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 8:38 PM > I'll raise two George Shearings, eight Ray Conniffs, and > a pair of > Bruebecks. > > Kate > > Billy Zoom wrote: > >> No .. I'll see your Benny G but I'll raise > you > >> an early Miles Davis and an Art Blakey. > >> > > I'll see your Bach and raise you a Prokofiev. > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From kgb at frontiernet.net Wed Feb 25 20:58:06 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:58:06 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net> OK. Six Kingston Trio (Including two mint "Live From the Hungry I), twelve Peter, Paul & Mary, and twelve Glen Yarboroughs, and the complete Victory At Sea. Ed's Shop wrote: > < Bruebecks.>> > > I'll raise ya four Eartha Kitts, four Peggy Lees & FIVE Vikki Carrs, > Kate !!!! > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Wed Feb 25 22:08:46 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:08:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net> References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Complete Victory at Sea ya say.. I fold.. Lester On Feb 25, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > OK. Six Kingston Trio (Including two mint "Live From the Hungry I), > twelve Peter, Paul & Mary, and twelve Glen Yarboroughs, and the > complete Victory At Sea. > > Ed's Shop wrote: >> <> of Bruebecks.>> >> >> I'll raise ya four Eartha Kitts, four Peggy Lees & FIVE Vikki Carrs, >> Kate !!!! From wmgilroy at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 22:31:33 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:31:33 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902251239i7c19df6eq3e8042b29f4a28e@mail.gmail.com> References: <699254.25443.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <2ad6c6b10902251122g1953148dv4b664b4830daaa88@mail.gmail.com> <43840a7e0902251239i7c19df6eq3e8042b29f4a28e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A62935.8030801@gmail.com> You are right, many people could not read the fine print and took out more money than they could afford. Heck when I was purchasing a house 3 years ago they told me I could borrow up to $1,000,000, if I got a mortgage that would adjust or interest only loan. I decided to borrow much less. But you have to ask the question "How sound are the business practices of a company who would offer such a loan?" Turns out, not very sound at all. You can blame the people who signed the loans but most of us on the list would not have based our business on such plans. So it turns out a bunch of bankers made a bunch of unsound bets, got richly reward, and now the taxpayers are stuck with the cost of savings these banks because they are to big to fail. Twenty years ago you need 20% down to buy a house and your total bills could not exceed ~30% of your gross salary. That was consider standard lending practices. What changed is banks decide that they could make more money by writing risky loans. You are correct Jim this has already cost me; my company is not giving raises this year due to declining revenue and I am not in the banking business. I place the blame squarely with the people who made the risky loans, they should have known better. I am pretty sure if ran my business like the banks I would be out of work. As my grandfather used say, "It is good to be king." or "Steal a loaf of bread and go to jail, steal a railroad and go to Congress." Bill Jim Johnson wrote: Look in your pocket. Whatever change is there is all you are going to have when you get done paying the mortgages of those who don't know how to read the fine print on a loan form. Now THAT'S "Change you can believe in"! Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:22 PM, WFO Herb wrote: I'm still waiting for the 'change'. Herb __________ You are subscribed as wmgilroy at gmail.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From bmwwxman at gmail.com Wed Feb 25 23:49:19 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:49:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] OT -- like most everything these days In-Reply-To: <578401FB9D1245B8BEB822BA3B4711BD@Larry> References: <20090225220603.798OX.125238.root@hrndva-web10-z02> <578401FB9D1245B8BEB822BA3B4711BD@Larry> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902252249q73385dcfv40f1f0d22bd82cc5@mail.gmail.com> I sincerely hope it is single malt. I hope you haven't fallen into the gutter of blended.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim - sipping his evening Laphroaig On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Oh, thanks for telling me. I hope I don't throw up my Scotch. ;-)) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Larry Daniels" ; "Spridgets List" > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 4:06 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] OT -- like most everything these days > > > Um, hate to break this to you, but modern fish have actual sex to. Water > is > full of sperm and eggs. > > > ---- Larry Daniels wrote: > > I just read an AP story about how prehistoric fish had actual sex. > > > > > > That does it. No more water for me... I'm sticking to Scotch. > > > > > > LAD > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 00:10:57 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:10:57 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Put Pelosi on an EMB In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0902252310m2a099acemba8411be804f6ede@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > I'm not sure what your point here is, besides wishing a horrible death > > on the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. > That works for me...for starters. When you say "horrible death" do you mean lots of screaming and thrashing about? 20 years from now I think we'll all want her to at least have that... BTW, in watching the speech last night I kept wondering where her short skirt and pom poms were.... Oh! And are any of you in foreclosure? I'd kinda like to know whom I'm supporting now. I fear we've reached the stage espoused in my signature line.... -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 00:21:50 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:21:50 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: <9527D9CB-88A0-4EF1-BD06-3B967CB239EF@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902252321t59712f66o8b04711c7a859f6c@mail.gmail.com> I prefer the D minor work personally but it takes one hell of a pipe organ! 64 footers in the pedal ranks! I wasted a year in college as a pipe organ major before I discovered I wasn't good enough. I'd probably end up a part time choir director and organist with some stinko, built into the wall Moller organ in a little Methodist church in central Texas. Haven't touched a keyboard now in many years. Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Tocatta and Fuge in G minor man.. it's the shiz! > Very Goth, Dude! From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 00:36:25 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:36:25 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: <0E095882-3E2A-4D0B-9AD7-62362796AB49@comcast.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902252336la9df59dgc3d4b8f143f1978f@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor > That was Lonnie Donegan. How can you guys not know Spike Jones? > Cocktails for Two was my favorite, but anything with Doodles Weaver was > cool > too. BTW, I did a few shows with Doodles. How about Poot Waddle....? ;-) I honestly thought until just now that he had murdered his wife and died in prison. Googleing (is that a word) his bio I see I was wrong! Sorry, Biff! My favorites are "You Always Hurt The One You Love", and "A Mudders Day Sports Spectacular" with the irrepressible Feetlebaum! You did shows with Doddles Weaver??!! Now THAT I would pay a lot of money to see! -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 00:39:30 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:39:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <945645.16770.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <49A600B0.6050608@frontiernet.net> <945645.16770.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902252339p356e295hacf1a73e0df60636@mail.gmail.com> Yup. Fortunately for the rest of us, you are the chosen one.... ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > At the risk of this turning into a Monty Python sketch ("Shoebox? Luxury!), > I've got maybe 300 classical records, lots of jazz from the 1930's forward, > lots of blues from Robert Johnson, rock from A(lvin) to Z(oom), etc., but I > would be willing to bet a year's pay that I'm the only person on the list to > work out to Brian Jones' recording of the Moroccan Joujouka tribe tonight. > > Ron > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Kathryn Bales wrote: > > > From: Kathryn Bales > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > > To: > > Cc: "spridget list" > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 8:38 PM > > I'll raise two George Shearings, eight Ray Conniffs, and > > a pair of > > Bruebecks. > > > > Kate > > > > Billy Zoom wrote: > > >> No .. I'll see your Benny G but I'll raise > > you > > >> an early Miles Davis and an Art Blakey. > > >> > > > I'll see your Bach and raise you a Prokofiev. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 00:47:08 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:47:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com> Not me!! I raise you 2 Tom Leher's, 3 Jim Kweskin's, 2 Stan Freeburg's, 1 Alan Sherman, and the complete works of Bill Monroe! Ha! Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Lester wrote: > Complete Victory at Sea ya say.. I fold.. > > Lester > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > > OK. Six Kingston Trio (Including two mint "Live From the Hungry I), twelve >> Peter, Paul & Mary, and twelve Glen Yarboroughs, and the complete Victory At >> Sea. >> >> Ed's Shop wrote: >> >>> <>> Bruebecks.>> >>> >>> I'll raise ya four Eartha Kitts, four Peggy Lees & FIVE Vikki Carrs, >>> Kate !!!! >>> >> _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From dwramsey at att.net Thu Feb 26 01:20:15 2009 From: dwramsey at att.net (David Ramsey) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:20:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] elete Message-ID: <20090226082041.E915B187652@autox.team.net> Have I missed anything on the list lately that was worth reading????? I've worn the D off my Delete key and am not sure it is still working. Crash From wbmcleod at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 01:25:48 2009 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 01:25:48 -0700 Subject: [Spridgets] elete In-Reply-To: <20090226082041.E915B187652@autox.team.net> References: <20090226082041.E915B187652@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <49A6520C.2060606@gmail.com> The only thing worth reading was the unified field theory. Just keep your delete key warm and well-oiled. Bill David Ramsey wrote: > Have I missed anything on the list lately that was worth reading????? I've > worn the D off my Delete key and am not sure it is still working. > > Crash From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 01:54:03 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:54:03 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in Message-ID: <43840a7e0902260054p4374d912w8c6787147ae80de@mail.gmail.com> Not my words. This from an independent watchdog group... President Obama's first speech to a joint session of Congress was stuffed with signals about the new direction his budget will take and meant-to-be reassuring words about the economy. But it was also peppered with exaggerations and factual misstatements. - He said "we import more oil today than ever before." That's untrue. Imports peaked in 2005 and are substantially lower today. - He claimed his mortgage aid plan would help "responsible" buyers but not those who borrowed beyond their means. But even prominent defenders of the program including Fed Chairman Bernanke and FDIC chief Bair concede foolish borrowers will be aided, too. - He said the high cost of health care "causes a bankruptcy in America every 30 seconds." That's at least double the true figure. - He flubbed two facts about American history. The U.S. did not invent the automobile, and the transcontinental railroad was not completed until years after the Civil War, not during it. - He claimed that his stimulus plan "prevented the layoffs" of 57 police officers in Minneapolis. In fact, it's far more complicated than that, and other factors are also helping to save police jobs. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From grday at btinternet.com Thu Feb 26 02:20:57 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:20:57 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NOTHING WINS References: <43840a7e0902260054p4374d912w8c6787147ae80de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1AFBE8DB226D4E66B9A0BC2C55CE273A@dell330> If I have to read Political sh*t or nothing - guess which wins. Guy R Day From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 04:24:14 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:24:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Eastwood HVLP gun In-Reply-To: <60186C61C57A470A9A34239B822A3295@Home> References: <60186C61C57A470A9A34239B822A3295@Home> Message-ID: <205cef430902260324q7ca8c733qd3095648ec2e3fee@mail.gmail.com> Michael, Which model is that on the video? I'm on the Eastwood site but not sure which one it is. Lin On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Eastwood is offering an inexpensive HVLP spray gun that only needs 4 cfm at > 29 psi, which is easy for an ordinary pancake compressor. The only review I > could find was positive (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIHcHKeU2j4). > Anyone have experience with this gun? > > Michael Rowe > '74 Midget > Long Island, NY > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From tequila.brad at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 04:40:48 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 05:40:48 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net> <43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Does my having every Frank Zappa domestic release album, from Freak Out, to You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore (with a few import oddities sprinkled in as well) count for anything? On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Not me!! I raise you 2 Tom Leher's, 3 Jim Kweskin's, 2 Stan Freeburg's, 1 > Alan Sherman, and the complete works of Bill Monroe! > > Ha! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Lester wrote: > > > Complete Victory at Sea ya say.. I fold.. > > > > Lester > > > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > > > > OK. Six Kingston Trio (Including two mint "Live From the Hungry I), > twelve > >> Peter, Paul & Mary, and twelve Glen Yarboroughs, and the complete > Victory At > >> Sea. > >> > >> Ed's Shop wrote: > >> > >>> < >>> Bruebecks.>> > >>> > >>> I'll raise ya four Eartha Kitts, four Peggy Lees & FIVE Vikki Carrs, > >>> Kate !!!! > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim > "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough > to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 04:41:55 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:41:55 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. Message-ID: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> List, I want to understand our little A series motors better so I am going rebuild a 948 which is apart and in boxes at Franks. Now so I don't drive all of you and Frank crazy I thought I would start with a good book, articles or website. I have a VW magazine article that goes step buy step to rebuild an airhead VW motor which will get me started to understand some of the mechanics that I am unfamiliar with but what would be the best book to use for this little A motor? I have Daniel Stapletons book How to Power Tune Midget & Sprite for Road and Track but it doesnt show how to rebuild an A series motor. Will the book Tuning the A-Series Engine By David Vizardha ve that info or is there another book, article or web based site I should use? Linda "motor-head wana-be" Books: http://spritespot.com/books.htm From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 04:55:20 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 03:55:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. In-Reply-To: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4333f8140902260355j290cb061p7ab7731a60e5ee48@mail.gmail.com> Linda, I would recommend starting with some more basic books such as "How to Blueprint a 4 Cyl Short block" by Des Hammill and a book such as "The Engine Builder's handbook" by Tom Monroe. My Haynes manual has a fairly decent (albeit short) chapter on disassembling and reassembling the motor. While Vizard's book has TONS of useful information that is specific to the A-series engine it will only make you want to spend more money (don't ask me how I know) and doesn't cover the very basics of rebuilding a motor. It is definitely a good place to start if you want to make your engine more powerful, higher revving, or more economical. Hal From kgrowler at aol.com Thu Feb 26 05:41:48 2009 From: kgrowler at aol.com (kgrowler at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:41:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Music One-upmanship Thread Message-ID: <8CB6626B9DAB982-E64-3F0@WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com> Ron wrote: "...but I would be willing to bet a year's pay that I'm the only person on the list to work out to Brian Jones' recording of the Moroccan Joujouka tribe tonight." You're only willing to go out on that limb because you've seen enough listers to be confident that none were working out. I see you won't bet anything that they weren't listening to it while sitting around their garage gazing at their Spridget... I was inspired by the list last night to dig up my Dad's favorite Spike Jones song, "Der Fuehrer's Face" and listen to it. ;-) Kim Tonry Downers Grove, IL USA From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Thu Feb 26 05:48:15 2009 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:48:15 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Music One-upmanship Thread In-Reply-To: <8CB6626B9DAB982-E64-3F0@WEBMAIL-MC06.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <1706B14ABB6D48B2874DD6DD1184A599@GuyLaptop> If someone would lend me a copy, I would "work out" for a bit tonight and be happy to split Ron's annual wage. Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of kgrowler at aol.com Sent: 26 February 2009 12:42 To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Music One-upmanship Thread Ron wrote: "...but I would be willing to bet a year's pay that I'm the only person on the list to work out to Brian Jones' recording of the Moroccan Joujouka tribe tonight." You're only willing to go out on that limb because you've seen enough listers to be confident that none were working out. I see you won't bet anything that they weren't listening to it while sitting around their garage gazing at their Spridget... I was inspired by the list last night to dig up my Dad's favorite Spike Jones song, "Der Fuehrer's Face" and listen to it. ;-) Kim Tonry Downers Grove, IL USA You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 06:27:23 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:27:23 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902260355j290cb061p7ab7731a60e5ee48@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> <4333f8140902260355j290cb061p7ab7731a60e5ee48@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902260527y592b9dc5hdb3b70e7cff4c4b0@mail.gmail.com> Thanks Hal, I forgot to mention I have the Haynes book, the MG Sprite Midget Official Workshop Manual by British Leyland and the Restoring Sprites & Midgets an enthusiasts guide by Gram Bristow but I was a bit disappointed that Bristows book had hand sketches and would rather technical drawings instead but looking at it today it does have worthwhile info. I see the books you mention here http://www.amazon.com/Blueprint-Build-4-Cylinder-Short-Block/dp/1874105855#and I think they it will be the best or so the look inside feature shows good info. Is there any difference between the hard cover and the soft cover books? Thanks again, Lin On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Hal Faulkner wrote: > Linda, > > I would recommend starting with some more basic books such as "How to > Blueprint a 4 Cyl Short block" by Des Hammill and a book such as "The Engine > Builder's handbook" by Tom Monroe. > My Haynes manual has a fairly decent (albeit short) chapter on > disassembling and reassembling the motor. > While Vizard's book has TONS of useful information that is specific to the > A-series engine it will only make you want to spend more money (don't ask me > how I know) and doesn't cover the very basics of rebuilding a motor. It is > definitely a good place to start if you want to make your engine more > powerful, higher revving, or more economical. > > Hal From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 06:32:55 2009 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in* In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902260054p4374d912w8c6787147ae80de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1501363085.1132211235655175322.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Well, he might have erred a few times, but I don't believe there was a lie offered all night long--quite a departure from what we have become used to hearing. And wasn't it refreshing to have a whole night of complete sentences? 8^) David C. If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:54:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in Not my words. This from an independent watchdog group... President Obama's first speech to a joint session of Congress was stuffed with signals about the new direction his budget will take and meant-to-be reassuring words about the economy. But it was also peppered with exaggerations and factual misstatements. - He said "we import more oil today than ever before." That's untrue. Imports peaked in 2005 and are substantially lower today. - He claimed his mortgage aid plan would help "responsible" buyers but not those who borrowed beyond their means. But even prominent defenders of the program including Fed Chairman Bernanke and FDIC chief Bair concede foolish borrowers will be aided, too. - He said the high cost of health care "causes a bankruptcy in America every 30 seconds." That's at least double the true figure. - He flubbed two facts about American history. The U.S. did not invent the automobile, and the transcontinental railroad was not completed until years after the Civil War, not during it. - He claimed that his stimulus plan "prevented the layoffs" of 57 police officers in Minneapolis. In fact, it's far more complicated than that, and other factors are also helping to save police jobs. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford _______________________________________________ Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html You are subscribed as dlancer7676 at comcast.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Thu Feb 26 06:39:15 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:39:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A69B83.3080701@sbcglobal.net> Wow, a flash from the past. When I was growing up my Dad worked for an "easy listening" radio station. Instead of coming home with free demo copies of the latest from the Stones or the Beatles, we were treated to the full collection of 101 Strings, plus an assortment of Connie Francis, et al. He was also into background music and I used to build speakers and receivers during the summer. They eventually sold to MUZAK, who just went into bankruptcy. You know the American Way is in danger when "elevator music" is in trouble. "Oh, the humanity!" Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:07:03 -0600 From: "Chris Manuel" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture To: "'spridget list'" Message-ID: <20090226030705.PICV5672.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com at BASEMENTDELL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ok. Box set of 101 Strings and Gordon Jenkins. From grunthaner at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 06:46:25 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:46:25 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Bugeye Seats In-Reply-To: <26EA9C71-7E8B-4310-87E4-A94775E781E9@comcast.net> References: <205cef430902230554gaef4880u9a33ecfa35111f3a@mail.gmail.com> <26EA9C71-7E8B-4310-87E4-A94775E781E9@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430902260546j5ee1a354maab9ca348c0228de@mail.gmail.com> I like those seats perhaps making a hindge on the front to tip up like on my 68 Spitfire? Lin On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Jim Proefrock wrote: > He wants seats with seatbacks that can tilt forward, allowing access to the > boot. Otherwise, there are dozens of kart racing seats available that are > *way* nicer than the awesome bar stool seat . . . > > Just one example: > http://www.tillett.co.uk/index.asp > > > On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:35 AM, < > corvallis at peoplepc.com> wrote: > > Here's what I did to fit my 6-foot male frame into one of the last >> Spridgets; bar stool seat from the 1960's. ...bill in oregon >> >> http://www.97330.com/seat_barStool.html >> >> >> >> ========================================================================= >> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:35 AM, brian S wrote: >> >> >> >> hey all, >>> >> >> >>> >> My Bugeye is all but finished, (THANKS Frank!) >>> >> >> about all I need is seats. >>> >> >> chuck c had given me a set of Fiero seats that are very comfortable, >>> >> >> but I have a roll bar in mine with a cross brace that precludes >>> >> >> me using any high back buckets. >>> >> >> The brace won't allow the seat to recline, >>> >> >> in fact it puts that back angled forward. >>> >> >> Even puts Frank too close to the steering wheel and I'm a bit >>> >> >> taller than him. >>> >> >> So, since Bugeye seats are scarcer than hens teeth, >>> >> >> or outrageously expensive, does anyone know of any >>> >> >> lowback seats, either original type or aftermarket, >>> >> >> the also tilt forward to allow boot access? >>> >> >> I have seen some fixed back seats that I like including a set >>> >> >> from minispares that have the Speedwell logo on them(inexpensive too!) >>> >> >> But have yet to find any lowback buckets that aren't fixed back. >>> >> >> I understand also that later spridget seats won't tilt forward enough >>> >> >> to allow good access to the boot either, and have an incorrect >>> >> >> sideways tilt to them. >>> >> >> TIA >>> >> >> Brian S. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> You are subscribed as proefrock at comcast.net >> >> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Feb 26 06:56:36 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:56:36 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm sure it does! What, I'm not sure!! :) I think that I only have 2? Joe's Garage and Over-Nite Sensation. I'm thinking, after hearing 'Peaches in Regalia' a coupe of times on the radio, that I want Hot Rats also. As a young lad Rush was my favourite band for awhile. That was when they only had one album. I was disappointed by their second and didn't buy their third. All this to say ... I think that their first album is their best. They also have a tribute album out there somewhere which might be good. But, that's only my opinion. I also have "Des F|hrer's face" by Spike Lee and the City Slickers. I confess though, that it is before my time. I bought a compilation CD to play period music for my parents' 50th. My father-in-law was telling me at one time that Spike Lee was known for the odd vocal sounds that he could make, if I've got that right. And now, Ron has me very curious about "Brian Jones Presents: The Pipes of Pan at Jajouka". It is currently NLA at my favourite online CD supplier. I'm a Stones music fan and I've become more enamoured with Brian Jones contributions of late. 12x5 is great. "Around and Around is my favourite. audio sample here: http://www.amazon.com/12-X-5-Rolling-Stones/dp/B00006AW2O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1235655795&sr=8-1 The Stones: "Tattoo You" lives in the boom box by our treadmill, though I temporarily replaced it with Roxy Music's "Country Life" last night. Not to incite pre-spring list email extravaganzas, but I read someone's opinion lately that stated that if you had to be on a deserted island with only one musician's music, that Ray Charles could be the musician of choice. I can't reall wrap my head around only ever being able to listen to one musician's music for the rest of my life, but Ray Charles wouldn't be a bad pick! Now back to your regularly scheduled performance. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Brad Fornal Does my having every Frank Zappa domestic release album, from Freak Out, to You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore (with a few import oddities sprinkled in as well) count for anything? On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Not me!! I raise you 2 Tom Leher's, 3 Jim Kweskin's, 2 Stan Freeburg's, 1 > Alan Sherman, and the complete works of Bill Monroe! > > Ha! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Lester wrote: > > > Complete Victory at Sea ya say.. I fold.. > > > > Lester > > > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Kathryn Bales wrote: > > > > OK. Six Kingston Trio (Including two mint "Live From the Hungry I), > twelve > >> Peter, Paul & Mary, and twelve Glen Yarboroughs, and the complete > Victory At > >> Sea. > >> > >> Ed's Shop wrote: > >> > >>> < >>> Bruebecks.>> > >>> > >>> I'll raise ya four Eartha Kitts, four Peggy Lees & FIVE Vikki Carrs, > >>> Kate !!!! From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 07:01:01 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:01:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Music One-upmanship Thread In-Reply-To: <1706B14ABB6D48B2874DD6DD1184A599@GuyLaptop> References: <1706B14ABB6D48B2874DD6DD1184A599@GuyLaptop> Message-ID: <4139DC82-A794-40E1-88E5-485E0C3842B5@comcast.net> I have found that the clanking of steel on steel followed by the buzzer and lights of fencing do not allow one the joy of listening to music.. Lester On Feb 26, 2009, at 6:48 AM, Guy Weller wrote: > If someone would lend me a copy, I would "work out" for a bit > tonight and be > happy to split Ron's annual wage. > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of kgrowler at aol.com > Sent: 26 February 2009 12:42 > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Music One-upmanship Thread > > > Ron wrote: > > > > "...but I would be willing to bet a year's pay that I'm the only > person on > the list to work out to > > Brian Jones' recording of the Moroccan Joujouka tribe tonight." > > You're only willing to go out on that limb because you've seen enough > listers to be confident that none were working out. I see you won't > bet > anything that they weren't listening to it while sitting around > their garage > gazing at their Spridget... > > I was inspired by the list last night to dig up my Dad's favorite > Spike > Jones song, "Der Fuehrer's Face" and listen to it. > > > > > ;-) > > > > > Kim Tonry > > Downers Grove, IL USA From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 07:03:33 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:03:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in* In-Reply-To: <1501363085.1132211235655175322.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1501363085.1132211235655175322.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <346CF357-0B9C-4D56-80E0-72C787BB6A82@comcast.net> I would be the first to say that it is nice to have a great orator in the White House yet the remark about "inheriting a deficit" and reducing it by 50%, well ... Lester On Feb 26, 2009, at 7:32 AM, dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote: > Well, he might have erred a few times, but I don't believe there was > a lie offered all night long--quite a departure from what we have > become used to hearing. And wasn't it refreshing to have a whole > night of complete sentences? 8^) > > David C. > If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are > the others here for? From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 07:12:53 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:12:53 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net> <43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6F2E05CB-455C-4EA8-A90B-8BC1264DFD36@comcast.net> Wait one damn minute.. I thought that we had removed all the Tom Lerhrer's from the deck.. Lester "First you get down on you knees, fiddle with your rosary, bow your head with great respect, and genuflect genuflect genuflect..." On Feb 26, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Not me!! I raise you 2 Tom Leher's, 3 Jim Kweskin's, 2 Stan > Freeburg's, 1 Alan Sherman, and the complete works of Bill Monroe! > > Ha! > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Lester > wrote: > Complete Victory at Sea ya say.. I fold.. > > Lester From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Feb 26 07:17:59 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:17:59 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] elete In-Reply-To: <20090226082041.E915B187652@autox.team.net> Message-ID: -elete-ism ?? ----Original Message Follows---- Have I missed anything on the list lately that was worth reading????? I've worn the D off my Delete key and am not sure it is still working. Crash From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 07:20:29 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:20:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] elete In-Reply-To: <20090226082041.E915B187652@autox.team.net> References: <20090226082041.E915B187652@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <2D7FF8B0-BFE1-491C-97E7-E2938CA833B6@comcast.net> hmm.. the Bach to Tom Lehrer conversation.. Lester .. and all that stuff about Hussein O.. On Feb 26, 2009, at 2:20 AM, David Ramsey wrote: > Have I missed anything on the list lately that was worth > reading????? I've > worn the D off my Delete key and am not sure it is still working. > > Crash From tinydog at snet.net Thu Feb 26 07:21:32 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:21:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A69B83.3080701@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <745186.40836.qm@web83914.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog shared: "What really bothers me is that the inventors of MUZAK are working on something else." Lily Tomlin --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Lee Fox wrote: From: Lee Fox Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture To: spridgets at autox.team.net They eventually sold to MUZAK, who just went into bankruptcy. You know the American Way is in danger when "elevator music" is in trouble. "Oh, the humanity!" From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Feb 26 07:41:45 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:41:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A day at the swap meet - Rod's Bugeye FS Message-ID: <989499.92640.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Ron Soave wrote: > Also present was the Spridgetech vintage race Bugeye that I > almost bought and may still someday. Thanks to Brain S. posting to the Bugeye list (I lurk there as well). The car is sold. I should have bought it ;-( Ron PS - BZ, the crankshaft guy asked me if you want him to drill a hole in the middle so you can put a fish hook through it; we need to talk. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Feb 26 08:06:04 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:06:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS Message-ID: <001001c99823$c08d8ff0$41a8afd0$@com> Hey youse guys, I've got a lot going on right now, and not much of it is good. I was supposed to start a new job the Monday after SOS '07 .(yes, as in 2007 a long time ago). The written offer kept getting delayed, and 2 days before Xmas '07, they underwent a workforce reduction, and rescinded all offers. So, I've been out of work since then, and it ain't pretty. In fact, I spend about 10-12 hours a day looking for a gig. As some of you know, it is just plain ugly, especially if you've made decent money and are over 50. So, now my situation is trying to save both my marriage and the farm. I'm not sure whether I'll be able to save either, but I am going to try. The bulk of everything that was done at SOS '07 still sits where it was left, as I'm too busy looking for work, helping with aging parents, and the fact that going out there is too depressing. I don't have any propane out there to heat the shop, but generally it's quite a bit warmer in there than outside. I'm looking for help in March on weekends to help get a lot of things done out there. I need to organize/purge/sell parts. I need to push some cars around that I can't do by myself. I have a couple of non LBC projects that I can use extra hands to sort out (fuel pump relay on my '82 633 CSI and an ignition switch on an FJ70 Landcruiser. A lot of what I have will be for sale, and those of you that have been here know how much stuff I have. I need to be prepared to downsize to a space that's less than half of what I have currently. (Again, I'd rather save both my marriage and the farm, but need to be prepared to lose on both fronts.) So, anyone interested in helping? We'd target mid-March as the weather breaks a little. WST From biffjones at verizon.net Thu Feb 26 08:43:08 2009 From: biffjones at verizon.net (Biff Jones) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:43:08 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Some new parts Message-ID: <24E7538FDEE54D01BF5DB023FE9536B2@dell1> A fellow spridget owner/dealer Tony Bennetto aka the Bugeye Barn in Australia has had some new replacement parts remade to original or better specifications. Follow this link to his site and the new parts that are available http://www.bugeyebarn.com/?a1I12&U74&7zy&vnq Biff Jones [demime found a multipart/alternative section which it tried to parse but could not find any section which it could render. Please send plain text.] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1973 - Release Date: 02/26/09 07:03:00 From kgb at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 26 09:04:48 2009 From: kgb at frontiernet.net (Kathryn Bales) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:04:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS In-Reply-To: <001001c99823$c08d8ff0$41a8afd0$@com> References: <001001c99823$c08d8ff0$41a8afd0$@com> Message-ID: <49A6BDA0.7030403@frontiernet.net> Been there, had that happen. Don't miss the ex, still miss the farm. It did turn out for the best, because if I hadn't dumped the ex, I wouldn't have met Gary. My place now is small enough to manage by myself, with some volunteer work from the neighbors, and large enough for a nice garden and to keep a couple of horses. I would love to come up for your SOS, but am having back surgery on March 12th. If you can find two of the items I am still looking for, and will be including them in your garage sale, I would like to buy them from you, if the price is right. I really want a set of winged knock offs for my wire wheels and Brooklands wind screens, although the latter will probably not be in this year's budget. Kate > > > > (Again, I'd rather save both my marriage and the farm, but need to be > prepared to lose on both fronts.) > > > > So, anyone interested in helping? We'd target mid-March as the weather > breaks a little. > > > > WST > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From trevor.jessie at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 09:15:48 2009 From: trevor.jessie at gmail.com (Trevor Jessie) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:15:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Some new parts In-Reply-To: <24E7538FDEE54D01BF5DB023FE9536B2@dell1> References: <24E7538FDEE54D01BF5DB023FE9536B2@dell1> Message-ID: <8c1781040902260815y560af3f0raca04ad96ad6e931@mail.gmail.com> I love this quote: "After years of waiting for our lazy manufacturer to recreate some more of these reproduction steering column cowls to suit Bugeye and Mk2 Sprites they have arrived! Almost sold out but still a couple left. $66 each, dont wait as the manufacturer has been paid and is using the money to take up drinking again!" On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Biff Jones wrote: > A fellow spridget owner/dealer Tony Bennetto aka the Bugeye Barn in > Australia has had some new replacement parts remade to original or better > specifications. > > Follow this link to his site and the new parts that are available > http://www.bugeyebarn.com/?a1I12&U74&7zy&vnq > > Biff Jones > ---------- From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Feb 26 09:39:07 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:39:07 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. In-Reply-To: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9EB95820-9101-4353-BF88-B72BFA5DB0A0@mac.com> Linda, My preference is the original BMC Shop manual. It does a pretty good step by step of each task. Availability probably is a problem. I have seen other books which have copied pages from the original but are not as complete. Other folks will give you some recommendations of books that I have not used. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 26, 2009, at 3:41 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I want to understand our little A series motors better so I am > going rebuild > a 948 which is apart and in boxes at Franks. Now so I don't drive > all of you > and Frank crazy I thought I would start with a good book, articles or > website. I have a VW magazine article that goes step buy step to > rebuild an > airhead VW motor which will get me started to understand some of the > mechanics that I am unfamiliar with but what would be the best book > to use > for this little A motor? I have Daniel Stapletons book How to > Power Tune > Midget & Sprite for Road and Track but it doesnt show how to > rebuild an A > series motor. Will the book Tuning the A-Series Engine By David > Vizard ref=ntt_athr_dp_sr > _1?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=David% > 20Vizard>ha > ve > that info or is there another book, article or web based site I should > use? > Linda "motor-head wana-be" > > > Books: > > http://spritespot.com/books.htm > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 26 09:44:46 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:44:46 EST Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. Message-ID: Will the 2 editions more recent than the edition you have doesn't either but the most recent of those2 does have a lot more info on the 1275 blocks (including Marina and Ital) not found in any other book. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 26/02/2009 11:42:11 GMT Standard Time, grunthaner at gmail.com writes: I have Daniel Stapletons book How to Power Tune Midget & Sprite for Road and Track but it doesnt show how to rebuild an A series motor. From cciaffone at verizon.net Thu Feb 26 09:47:06 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:47:06 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <6F2E05CB-455C-4EA8-A90B-8BC1264DFD36@comcast.net> References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net> <43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com> <6F2E05CB-455C-4EA8-A90B-8BC1264DFD36@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49A6C78A.20209@verizon.net> Funny you should mention Tom Lehrer. Just t'other day I copied my three Lehrer albums to disc for a friend. Really did love National Brotherhood Week! chuck Lester wrote: > Wait one damn minute.. I thought that we had removed all the Tom > Lerhrer's from the deck.. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 26 09:53:16 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:53:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net><43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com><6F2E05CB-455C-4EA8-A90B-8BC1264DFD36@comcast.net> <49A6C78A.20209@verizon.net> Message-ID: <63FF2F8F256F4180997DC2C3EF4E3D7E@NilesAD.von.gov> > Funny you should mention Tom Lehrer. Just t'other day > I copied my three Lehrer albums to disc for a friend. > > Really did love National Brotherhood Week! To say nothing of "The old Dope Peddler"... BTW, You should have sent him off for the boxed set of three or four CDs of everything he did. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 26 09:54:13 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:54:13 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net><43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com><6F2E05CB-455C-4EA8-A90B-8BC1264DFD36@comcast.net> <49A6C78A.20209@verizon.net> Message-ID: No mention yet of Weird Al Yankovic or Lou and Peter Berryman... From cciaffone at verizon.net Thu Feb 26 09:54:54 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:54:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <63FF2F8F256F4180997DC2C3EF4E3D7E@NilesAD.von.gov> References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net><43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com><6F2E05CB-455C-4EA8-A90B-8BC1264DFD36@comcast.net> <49A6C78A.20209@verizon.net> <63FF2F8F256F4180997DC2C3EF4E3D7E@NilesAD.von.gov> Message-ID: <49A6C95E.3000302@verizon.net> "Doing well by doing good" David Lieb wrote: > To say nothing of "The old Dope Peddler"... From frog.aye at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 09:55:27 2009 From: frog.aye at gmail.com (Hal Faulkner) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:55:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in* In-Reply-To: <346CF357-0B9C-4D56-80E0-72C787BB6A82@comcast.net> References: <1501363085.1132211235655175322.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <346CF357-0B9C-4D56-80E0-72C787BB6A82@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4333f8140902260855u73b74608l376f170b77915a44@mail.gmail.com> I guess that's better than inheriting a surplus and reducing it to a deficit almost immediately.... Hal On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Lester wrote: > I would be the first to say that it is nice to have a great orator in the > White House yet the remark about "inheriting a deficit" and reducing it by > 50%, well ... From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 26 09:58:01 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:58:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net><43840a7e0902252347q4c6c0aa2id4c1bb73e2d95a9c@mail.gmail.com><6F2E05CB-455C-4EA8-A90B-8BC1264DFD36@comcast.net><49A6C78A.20209@verizon.net><63FF2F8F256F4180997DC2C3EF4E3D7E@NilesAD.von.gov> <49A6C95E.3000302@verizon.net> Message-ID: <05E6ACBE232045CD9C2C5CB8EA3229D8@NilesAD.von.gov> > "Doing well by doing good" He gives the kids free samples, Because he knows full well That today's young innocent faces Will be tomorrow's clientele... Think of that when you give some innocent kid a ride in your Spridget ;-) David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From grday at btinternet.com Thu Feb 26 09:58:18 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:58:18 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. References: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Linda, This may be a rather radical answer but get ANY engine, get 2 or 3 of them and strip them down and rebuild - doesn't have to be to running standards, it is just to get the feel of spanners, bolt tightness and general handling of mechanical lumps before you start on the 'A ' series. These are things to learn on, laugh at and generally make a mess of!! Yes, it is nice to think you can just get the bits, look at the cook book and re-build. What happened the first time you tried a recipe without supervision? That will be your engine. A not too happy thing - not what you intended!!!! Get your books, get the BARRIER cream for your hands (serious) and play with bits that aren't going to matter. If you are doing it under supervision it's a different thing but you'll still benefit from having a 'play' first. Best of luck and well done for having a go, proud of you. Guy R Day. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Grunthaner" To: "Spridget Chat Group" Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:41 AM Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books,websites or Magazine articles. > List, > I want to understand our little A series motors better so I am going > rebuild > a 948 which is apart and in boxes at Franks. Now so I don't drive all of > you > and Frank crazy I thought I would start with a good book, articles or > website. I have a VW magazine article that goes step buy step to rebuild > an > airhead VW motor which will get me started to understand some of the > mechanics that I am unfamiliar with but what would be the best book to use > for this little A motor? I have Daniel Stapletons book How to Power Tune > Midget & Sprite for Road and Track but it doesnt show how to rebuild an > A > series motor. Will the book Tuning the A-Series Engine By David > Vizard _1?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=David%20Vizard>ha > ve > that info or is there another book, article or web based site I should > use? > Linda "motor-head wana-be" > > > Books: > > http://spritespot.com/books.htm > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grday at btinternet.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From cciaffone at verizon.net Thu Feb 26 10:05:30 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:05:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in* In-Reply-To: <4333f8140902260855u73b74608l376f170b77915a44@mail.gmail.com> References: <1501363085.1132211235655175322.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <346CF357-0B9C-4D56-80E0-72C787BB6A82@comcast.net> <4333f8140902260855u73b74608l376f170b77915a44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A6CBDA.6060301@verizon.net> Ah, The Shrub strikes again! First a ball team, then an entire country. Hal Faulkner wrote: > I guess that's better than inheriting a surplus and reducing it to a deficit > almost immediately.... From corvallis at peoplepc.com Thu Feb 26 10:11:49 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:11:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS Message-ID: <4F6D7F885759476F91A57033411F965F@spider> These life changes are hard. I went thru this in 1990; lost job, wife left and eventually had to sell 'the farm.' Hard decisions at the time but makes sense when I look back. We accumulate things; either we pare down now or someone else has to clean up after we're gone. Hang in there; chin up, nose to the grindstone and shoulder to the wheel. Where are you located? Best of luck to you! ...bill in oregon ============================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Wm. Severin Thompson Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:06 AM To: 'Team-Thicko at Autox.Team.Net'; spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS Hey youse guys, I've got a lot going on right now, and not much of it is good. I was supposed to start a new job the Monday after SOS '07 .(yes, as in 2007 a long time ago). The written offer kept getting delayed, and 2 days before Xmas '07, they underwent a workforce reduction, and rescinded all offers. So, I've been out of work since then, and it ain't pretty. In fact, I spend about 10-12 hours a day looking for a gig. As some of you know, it is just plain ugly, especially if you've made decent money and are over 50. So, now my situation is trying to save both my marriage and the farm. I'm not sure whether I'll be able to save either, but I am going to try. The bulk of everything that was done at SOS '07 still sits where it was left, as I'm too busy looking for work, helping with aging parents, and the fact that going out there is too depressing. I don't have any propane out there to heat the shop, but generally it's quite a bit warmer in there than outside. I'm looking for help in March on weekends to help get a lot of things done out there. I need to organize/purge/sell parts. I need to push some cars around that I can't do by myself. I have a couple of non LBC projects that I can use extra hands to sort out (fuel pump relay on my '82 633 CSI and an ignition switch on an FJ70 Landcruiser. A lot of what I have will be for sale, and those of you that have been here know how much stuff I have. I need to be prepared to downsize to a space that's less than half of what I have currently. (Again, I'd rather save both my marriage and the farm, but need to be prepared to lose on both fronts.) So, anyone interested in helping? We'd target mid-March as the weather breaks a little. WST _______________________________________________ From derf247 at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 10:24:26 2009 From: derf247 at gmail.com (derf) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:24:26 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS In-Reply-To: <001001c99823$c08d8ff0$41a8afd0$@com> References: <001001c99823$c08d8ff0$41a8afd0$@com> Message-ID: <5f00d9910902260924w7ae7ba3se791b019b25398c8@mail.gmail.com> Wish you were closer. I will pray for you. If you are a believer: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+6%3A25-34 If not, I'll still pray for you. If so, I recommend you pray about every little detail. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Thu Feb 26 10:27:36 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:27:36 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS References: <4F6D7F885759476F91A57033411F965F@spider> Message-ID: > So, anyone interested in helping? We'd target mid-March... I will be there. David Lieb From oldsaabguy at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 11:07:29 2009 From: oldsaabguy at comcast.net (Lester) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:07:29 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in* In-Reply-To: <49A6CBDA.6060301@verizon.net> References: <1501363085.1132211235655175322.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <346CF357-0B9C-4D56-80E0-72C787BB6A82@comcast.net> <4333f8140902260855u73b74608l376f170b77915a44@mail.gmail.com> <49A6CBDA.6060301@verizon.net> Message-ID: <7D5F5EEC-45A8-4050-8A1C-B97D163C130B@comcast.net> Let me start by apologizing. I am guilty of something that I derided others about, I referred to the President of the United States of America as Hussein O. While I do not like the man nor his policies I do respect the office that he holds. He is President Obama, not Hussein O, the big O, Barry, or the loser in the White House. That said I think that calling former President Bush "The Shrub" is in that same vein. We don't call former President Clinton the lying adulterer now do we. Lester On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:05 AM, chuck wrote: > Ah, The Shrub strikes again! First a ball team, then > an entire country. > > Hal Faulkner wrote: >> I guess that's better than inheriting a surplus and reducing it to >> a deficit >> almost immediately.... > ____________________ From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Feb 26 11:17:32 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:17:32 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in* In-Reply-To: <7D5F5EEC-45A8-4050-8A1C-B97D163C130B@comcast.net> Message-ID: Clinton? Are you referring to "Slick Willy"? :) ( Sorry, couldn't resist!! :) ) ----Original Message Follows---- From: Lester Let me start by apologizing. I am guilty of something that I derided others about, I referred to the President of the United States of America as Hussein O. While I do not like the man nor his policies I do respect the office that he holds. He is President Obama, not Hussein O, the big O, Barry, or the loser in the White House. That said I think that calling former President Bush "The Shrub" is in that same vein. We don't call former President Clinton the lying adulterer now do we. Lester On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:05 AM, chuck wrote: >Ah, The Shrub strikes again! First a ball team, then >an entire country. > >Hal Faulkner wrote: >>I guess that's better than inheriting a surplus and reducing it to a >>deficit almost immediately.... From cciaffone at verizon.net Thu Feb 26 11:24:36 2009 From: cciaffone at verizon.net (chuck) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:24:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in* In-Reply-To: <7D5F5EEC-45A8-4050-8A1C-B97D163C130B@comcast.net> References: <1501363085.1132211235655175322.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <346CF357-0B9C-4D56-80E0-72C787BB6A82@comcast.net> <4333f8140902260855u73b74608l376f170b77915a44@mail.gmail.com> <49A6CBDA.6060301@verizon.net> <7D5F5EEC-45A8-4050-8A1C-B97D163C130B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <49A6DE64.8090501@verizon.net> Wull yeah, Da Shrub (izzat better?) merely killed some THOUSANDS of Humuricans in a war against folks who did nothing to us. While "Slick Willy" (izzat OK as well?) committed the heinous crime of a sexual adventure. Badddd. No comparison. Poor Willy is doomed while St Shrub goes free. A-Rod continues to make millions while Marion Jones goes to jail, is stripped of her titles, etc etc. I do (unfortunately) understand all too well the current sense of proportion in this country of ours. What wuz it Pogo said, "We have met the enemy ...." Yup. Lester wrote: > Let me start by apologizing. > > I am guilty of something that I derided others about, I referred to the > President of the United States of America as Hussein O. > > While I do not like the man nor his policies I do respect the office > that he holds. > > He is President Obama, not Hussein O, the big O, Barry, or the loser in > the White House. > > That said I think that calling former President Bush "The Shrub" is in > that same vein. We don't call former President Clinton the lying > adulterer now do we. > > Lester > > > On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:05 AM, chuck wrote: > >> Ah, The Shrub strikes again! First a ball team, then >> an entire country. >> >> Hal Faulkner wrote: >>> I guess that's better than inheriting a surplus and reducing it to a >>> deficit >>> almost immediately.... >> ____________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as cciaffone at verizon.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1973 - Release Date: 02/26/09 07:03:00 From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 26 11:34:59 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:34:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: > and twelve Glen Yarboroughs, One Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross. BTW, Glen Yarbrough was nothing without Alex Hassilev. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Wed Feb 25 22:09:51 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:09:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > four Eartha Kitts, four Peggy Lees & FIVE Vikki Carrs, One Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Feb 26 11:38:41 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:38:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. In-Reply-To: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <332196.31719.qm@web30508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I use the Haynes manual and Tom Monroe's "Engine Builder's Handbook". I still think I forgot something every time I install a cam until everything goes together. --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > From: Linda Grunthaner > Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. > To: "Spridget Chat Group" > Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 5:41 AM > List, > I want to understand our little A series motors better so I > am going rebuild > a 948 which is apart and in boxes at Franks. Now so I > don't drive all of you > and Frank crazy I thought I would start with a good book, > articles or > website. I have a VW magazine article that goes step buy > step to rebuild an > airhead VW motor which will get me started to understand > some of the > mechanics that I am unfamiliar with but what would be the > best book to use > for this little A motor? I have Daniel Stapletons book How > to Power Tune > Midget & Sprite for Road and Track but it doesnt show > how to rebuild an A > series motor. Will the book Tuning the A-Series Engine By > David > Vizard _1?%5Fencoding=UTF8&search-type=ss&index=books&field-author=David%20Vizard>ha > ve > that info or is there another book, article or web based > site I should > use? > Linda "motor-head wana-be" > > > Books: > > http://spritespot.com/books.htm > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as soavero at yahoo.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Thu Feb 26 11:40:58 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:40:58 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in* In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Speaking of presidents, I liked this quote when I read it. If he loses his job, maybe he can make money as a stand up comic? Contrary to the rumors you have heard, I was not born in a manger. I was actually born on Krypton and sent here by my father Jor-El to save the Planet Earth. Many of you know that I got my name, Barack, from my father. What you may not know is Barack is actually Swahili for "That One". And I got my middle name from somebody who obviously didn't think I'd ever run for president. If I had to name my greatest strength, I guess it would be my humility. Greatest weakness, it's possible that I'm a little too awesome. From nlaredbt7 at tbc.net Thu Feb 26 12:08:16 2009 From: nlaredbt7 at tbc.net (Neil Anderson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:08:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS References: <4F6D7F885759476F91A57033411F965F@spider> Message-ID: <688915D453DC4339A0FD297886C24270@owner7ccec1fe9> I'll be there too. WST is an old Midwest Healey club friend and have to help friends if I can. He has been willing to organize help for others on many occasions. Neil Anderson DeKalb, IL ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lieb" To: "Spridget List" Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS >> So, anyone interested in helping? We'd target mid-March... > > I will be there. > David Lieb > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as nlaredbt7 at tbc.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Thu Feb 26 12:12:51 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:12:51 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Change we can believe in* In-Reply-To: <1501363085.1132211235655175322.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <43840a7e0902260054p4374d912w8c6787147ae80de@mail.gmail.com> <1501363085.1132211235655175322.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:32 AM, wrote: > Well, he might have erred a few times, but I don't believe there was a lie > offered all night long How do *you* know? I wouldn't believe ANY politician, whatever he said. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 From kentmclean at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 12:32:53 2009 From: kentmclean at comcast.net (Kent McLean) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:32:53 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A6EE65.3050201@comcast.net> GUY DAY wrote: > This may be a rather radical answer but get ANY engine, get 2 or 3 of them > and strip them down and rebuild - doesn't have to be to running standards, > it is just to get the feel of spanners, bolt tightness and general handling > of mechanical lumps before you start on the 'A ' series. Excellent advice. As a kid I tore down an old VW air-cooled engine for fun, but I never thought of putting it back together, which would have been so much more educational. I'd get a trashed 4 cylinder (they're lighter and easier to move around); VW, Honda, Toyota, whatever you can find on Craigslist for cheap. Heck, you may find one for free. And I wouldn't bother "rebuilding" it with new parts. Just put it together with what you pulled off of (and out of) it. -- Kent McLean '56 100 BN2 From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 26 12:50:28 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:50:28 EST Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture Message-ID: Never mind the bollocks here's Rush? Hmmm I like some punk and some Rush. In a message dated 25/02/2009 15:23:25 GMT Standard Time, davriker at nwi.net writes: Wow, Billy, tell us how your really feel. I'm 46, and I've never heard a punk rock song that I liked. Doesn't mean it's crap, I just prefer RUSH. Dave R. From wsthompson at thicko.com Thu Feb 26 12:51:00 2009 From: wsthompson at thicko.com (Wm. Severin Thompson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:51:00 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder location Message-ID: <00f801c9984b$8e7f3400$ab7d9c00$@com> I'm an hour north of Milwaukee. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 26 12:52:40 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:52:40 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? Message-ID: While we;re at this I have to report, sadly, that the French invented motor racing. In a message dated 25/02/2009 15:55:11 GMT Standard Time, breton48 at live.com writes: Drew wrote: Even the Library of Congress says Benz(referring to Cugnot as a military vehicle), not the US. Another site said the Benz was the first automobile, yet the Cugnot was the first auto crash!? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Right... the three-wheeled steam powered Cugnot vehicle was designed to pull a cannon, and crashed within a few hundred feet the first time it was on a road! I think most would agree Benz was the inventor of the automobile. The early English car manufacturers were not helped by the fact a car driver needed a man with a red flag to walk in front of the vehicle as a warning to impending catastrophe such vehicle was bound to unleash! I think the red flag law lasted at least till 1903? JLC From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 26 12:53:52 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:53:52 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? Message-ID: Do you mean a motor-tricycle? In a message dated 25/02/2009 16:11:22 GMT Standard Time, dwramsey at att.net writes: Just to dirty the water wasn't the Cugnot a three wheel vehicle with two in the back and one up front? That would make it a motorcycle. Crash From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 26 12:55:54 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:55:54 EST Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture - no LBC Message-ID: Because they are? Enquiring minds don't want to know. Montana Bob - Stop the Madness In a message dated 25/02/2009 19:53:04 GMT Standard Time, tinydog at snet.net writes: Since we're on the subject, could someone tell me why Geddy Lee sings as if his balls were tied with fishing line? From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 26 12:57:10 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:57:10 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? Message-ID: I think that only happens to Women, ED In a message dated 25/02/2009 19:54:38 GMT Standard Time, froggi60 at gmail.com writes: I'm still waiting for the 'change'. Herb From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Thu Feb 26 13:01:51 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:01:51 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? Message-ID: Yours too? Weslake-Monza 1330 in England. In a message dated 25/02/2009 23:13:23 GMT Standard Time, 60bugeye at cebridge.net writes: Frankly, 99.9% of ALL the politicians are crooks and only say what they want you to hear. ALL of them are looking out for their best interests and they occasionally look out for their constituents so they can get re-elected in next go around. From froggi60 at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 13:05:11 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:05:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NOTHING WINS In-Reply-To: <1AFBE8DB226D4E66B9A0BC2C55CE273A@dell330> References: <43840a7e0902260054p4374d912w8c6787147ae80de@mail.gmail.com> <1AFBE8DB226D4E66B9A0BC2C55CE273A@dell330> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902261205y794b1bccuacb65fdee938d1a4@mail.gmail.com> If this is a test, here's my take.... Since you 'read' there must be something to read. If you have "nothing"...there is nothing to read. Therefore "Political sh*t" is what you want to read. Did I win??? On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:20 AM, GUY DAY wrote: > If I have to read Political sh*t or nothing - guess which wins. > > Guy R Day From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 13:25:22 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:25:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. In-Reply-To: References: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A6FAB2.3090008@comcast.net> GUY DAY wrote: > Linda, > This may be a rather radical answer but get ANY engine, get 2 or 3 of > them and strip them down and rebuild - Guy This is why Linda is rebuilding this engine. A practice run. I'll be around to check things out and point her in the right direction. Worst case, I have a few extra 948s ;) Her engine is dis-assembled now, this is how she purchased it with a Bugeye that "ran when parked" It looks like all the parts are there and I told her to try a basic rebuild with honing, rings, bearings, and gaskets. If it runs, then she is ready for a super high compression 10,000 rpm full blown race engine ;) Or at least a maybe a piston replacement job. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From jimndi at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 26 13:43:58 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:43:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Questions Message-ID: Can somebody Help me. Dumb Question # 1 . I am putting a 1970 mg 1275 engine in a 1960 BE. The 1275 has been recently totally rebuilt and bored to 1300 cc. I have the original 948 engine in the garage and it has an external mechanical Fuel pump. The 1275 has no pump or a place to mount one for that matter. Did the 1970 midget have an electric fuel pump?? Dumb question # 2 I have 2 sets of Su Carbs, The one set is complete from an original 948. The other set is from a later 1275 and they are missing the connecting rod between the throttle plates. Can I use the earlier connecting rod on the newer carbs?? Dumb Question # 3. Is there anything special about the water outlet on the 1275? I am planning on using the Original downflow radiator. Is the 948 water outlet interchangable with the 1275? Thank you in advance for your input. I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra From tinydog at snet.net Thu Feb 26 13:49:21 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:49:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <732709.33077.qm@web83903.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog sez: Dumb Answer #1 - Yes ahead of the rear axle on the bulkhead behind the right seat. Dumb Answer #2 - Yes Dumb Answer #3 - Yes --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Jim F. wrote: From: Jim F. Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Questions To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 3:43 PM Can somebody Help me. Dumb Question # 1 . I am putting a 1970 mg 1275 engine in a 1960 BE. The 1275 has been recently totally rebuilt and bored to 1300 cc. I have the original 948 engine in the garage and it has an external mechanical Fuel pump. The 1275 has no pump or a place to mount one for that matter. Did the 1970 midget have an electric fuel pump?? Dumb question # 2 I have 2 sets of Su Carbs, The one set is complete from an original 948. The other set is from a later 1275 and they are missing the connecting rod between the throttle plates. Can I use the earlier connecting rod on the newer carbs?? Dumb Question # 3. Is there anything special about the water outlet on the 1275? I am planning on using the Original downflow radiator. Is the 948 water outlet interchangable with the 1275? From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Thu Feb 26 13:54:15 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 12:54:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <709092.38442.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Question number one: Yep - Electric - I'm running a Mr. Gasket pump back by the tank as they are better at pushing than at pulling gas. Questions 2 & 3: If it fits, I would think you can use it. (I don't have any experience with a 948 so can't help you there). The 1275 water outlet faces straight forward - If that poses a problem, you can probably solve it with an appropriate hose. Good Luck. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Jim F. wrote: From: Jim F. Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Questions To: spridgets at autox.team.net Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 2:43 PM Can somebody Help me. Dumb Question # 1 . I am putting a 1970 mg 1275 engine in a 1960 BE. The 1275 has been recently totally rebuilt and bored to 1300 cc. I have the original 948 engine in the garage and it has an external mechanical Fuel pump. The 1275 has no pump or a place to mount one for that matter. Did the 1970 midget have an electric fuel pump?? Dumb question # 2 I have 2 sets of Su Carbs, The one set is complete from an original 948. The other set is from a later 1275 and they are missing the connecting rod between the throttle plates. Can I use the earlier connecting rod on the newer carbs?? Dumb Question # 3. Is there anything special about the water outlet on the 1275? I am planning on using the Original downflow radiator. Is the 948 water outlet interchangable with the 1275? Thank you in advance for your input. I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra You are subscribed as tncarnut1 at yahoo.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From jimndi at frontiernet.net Thu Feb 26 14:02:33 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:02:33 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb questions Message-ID: Thanks guys, Just one more question for now. There is a brass valve on the 948 (Heater Shutoff?) The valve screws into an aluminum plate and the threads are shot in the plate> is this piece available? I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 14:18:58 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:18:58 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: <49A6134E.9090102@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902261318l628456c0pe67927f8f1104d24@mail.gmail.com> Amen, Billy! But both owed a lot to Lou Gottlieb. Not many people know that Lou did a lot of the arrangements for the early successes of the Kingston Trio and the Gateway Singers. He was an engaging person to talk with and a wonderful and evil wit. He was a PhD Musicologist as well! Sadly we lost him in 1997 I think. Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > and twelve Glen Yarboroughs, > One Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross. > BTW, Glen Yarbrough was nothing without Alex Hassilev. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 14:22:33 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:22:33 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0902261322k56959a8l88cfceab1f50fe28@mail.gmail.com> Cheez!! I had almost forgotten them!! Annie Ross left the group the year I graduated from High School! They were not the same afterward.... I'll have to see if anyone has remastered them on CD.... Cheers!! Jim On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: > > One Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross. From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 14:41:36 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:41:36 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A70C90.1040707@comcast.net> Jim F. wrote: > Can somebody Help me. > > Dumb Question # 1 . Did the 1970 midget have > an electric fuel pump?? > > Yes > Dumb question # 2 Can I use the earlier connecting > rod on the newer carbs?? > If both set ups are 1.25, If the bugeye had 1-1/8s, the linkages are different. > Dumb Question # 3. Is there anything special about the water outlet on the > 1275? I am planning on using the Original downflow radiator. Is the 948 water > outlet interchangable with the 1275? > > Same hose but if you have the flat 948 t/stat cover, do watch which thermostat you buy, some will interfere with the flat cover. Other question, yes the aluminum base plates are available from VB and maybe others. Many times, if the threads are OK, you can sand out the pits on the base of the plate with a belt sander. Or a block of wood with sandpaper on it and lots of elbow grease. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From khargreaves2 at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 14:48:27 2009 From: khargreaves2 at gmail.com (Kirk Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 13:48:27 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Linda 948 Rebuild Message-ID: <37dc82d40902261348n22a5950dm7ca15c9794b3a1a4@mail.gmail.com> Linda, One thing I would caution. Make sure you have a good well established person to bore the cylinders out, to do all of the machine shop work. The first engine I rebuilt was a small block Chevy for a 1966 Camaro. The machine shop I wanted to use was run by a guy who had been there for over 12 years building small blocks for the local dirt track. I am sure that I would have had good results with this guy. When I went out to get my engine done, I discovered that the guy had just started a two week vacation. Since I was too impatient, I used another guy in town. He offered a correct (not by numbers, but by displacement) 327 that he would do for the same price with my 350 core in exchange. I thought it was too good of a thing to pass up. Turns out that he bored the cylinders with a portable boring machine of some sort and the result was that my piston rings were never able to seat correctly. It was burning a quart for every 500 miles. My take is that the cylinders were not bored straight, instead they were flanged out a bit - hence why the rings would never seat. Now I am thinking that this is a redundant email cause Frank would know who to use for the machine shop tasks. But it was certainly a hard lesson for me back when I was in my early 30's. Kirk From bkitterer at mac.com Thu Feb 26 15:02:18 2009 From: bkitterer at mac.com (Kitterer Bob) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:02:18 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <88810ED4-A771-49D2-8D8F-486E547C723C@mac.com> Check Moss number 360-415. Last year it was $7.50. Bob Kitterer 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes 2000 Miata Special Edition On Feb 26, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Jim F. wrote: > Thanks guys, Just one more question for now. > There is a brass valve on the 948 (Heater Shutoff?) The valve > screws into an > aluminum plate and the threads are shot in the plate> is this piece > available? > > > I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to > school like I > had to. > Yogi Berra > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bkitterer at mac.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grbyrns at ucdavis.edu Thu Feb 26 15:03:44 2009 From: grbyrns at ucdavis.edu (Glen Byrns) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:03:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb questions References: Message-ID: <5FCF0F1FCA3B4D409A8D0EF672F0C937@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Jim, Its "pot" metal and is usually shot. The replacement part is passable. On the cheap, you could JB weld the tap into the plate for a one-time fix. Glen > Thanks guys, Just one more question for now. > There is a brass valve on the 948 (Heater Shutoff?) The valve screws into > an > aluminum plate and the threads are shot in the plate> is this piece > available? From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 15:10:28 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:10:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Huh??? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <43840a7e0902261410l5cebcb5br34d4ff9de80761d1@mail.gmail.com> Its universal, Daniel. I will never forget the Brit newspapers back in the 60s when I lived over your way. What a gem the Rt. Hon. Rev. Ian Paisley was! Is he still in there cocking up the works? My old mate Jeremy Taylor wrote and recorded a number of great parody songs about the Brit government. Great sport at the time! I remember one about the Ulster crew called something like "The Fighting Ulstermen". "We'll bash religion into you with two feet of lead pipe....." etc. Those were the days of Harold Wilson and Barbara Castle. You old enough to remember that? Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:01 PM, wrote: > Yours too? > > Weslake-Monza 1330 in England. > > In a message dated 25/02/2009 23:13:23 GMT Standard Time, > 60bugeye at cebridge.net writes: > > Frankly, 99.9% of ALL the politicians > are crooks and only say what they want you to hear. ALL of them are > looking > out for their best interests and they occasionally look out for their > constituents so they can get re-elected in next go around. > > > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 15:43:28 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:43:28 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Collings Foundation needs your help - OT but important - Message-ID: <43840a7e0902261443p6312ccfdifaf28e8bf5257dae@mail.gmail.com> *I know there are some pilots on this list..... If you love the old WWII War Birds as I do and want to see they keep flying, please read below and comment to your Senator, Rep. and the President... Once again congress and the federal bureaucracy (TSA) is going off half cocked with no idea of the impact of their meddling. * * TSA 2008-0021 Comment deadline is this Friday! February 27th* * Submit your comments to TSA before the 2/27 deadline!* *We really need to rally the troops on this one. Don't let the TSA "rail road" this legislation through. * *TSA 2008 - 0021 *Large Aircraft Security Program, Other, Aircraft Operator Security Program and Airport Operator Security Program. *As Americans, it is our duty to question authority. In this case, we have a lot of questions! Time is of the essence - write a letter to contest this legislation - or use ours... * America's Transportation Security Administration (TSA) is proposing a new set of security regulations for the nation's General Aviation community that is ineffective, porous, a violation of private citizen's rights, cause substantial job losses and endless additional tax payer's expenses. If this passes, the Wings of Freedom tour and programs similar will end - For a copy of this legislation click here . Comments can be submitted online to regulations.gov click here . Download the Collings Foundation's letter click here. Send a letter to President Obama click here . Send a letter to your State Senator. Find yours click here . Send a letter to the House of Representatives. Find yours click here. Please feel to use our letter as a template or write your own. Most important is that this piece of legislation needs to be defeated. We cannot let the TSA "railroad" this into law under current structure. Act now or forever hold your peace. _ From grday at btinternet.com Thu Feb 26 15:54:35 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:54:35 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] NOTHING WINS References: <43840a7e0902260054p4374d912w8c6787147ae80de@mail.gmail.com> <1AFBE8DB226D4E66B9A0BC2C55CE273A@dell330> <2ad6c6b10902261205y794b1bccuacb65fdee938d1a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I guess you won the prize clown award for today ----- Original Message ----- From: WFO Herb To: GUY DAY Cc: Spridgets Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NOTHING WINS If this is a test, here's my take.... Since you 'read' there must be something to read. If you have "nothing"...there is nothing to read. Therefore "Political sh*t" is what you want to read. Did I win??? On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:20 AM, GUY DAY wrote: If I have to read Political sh*t or nothing - guess which wins. Guy R Day From d.swanson at earthlink.net Thu Feb 26 16:25:26 2009 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:25:26 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinder Message-ID: <1624CFE5591947379855D1B48A3C45FD@HomeComputer> I just spent two hours on my back installing a new slave cylinder (I could not get the top mounting bolt in or a wrench on it) only to have it leak where the metal line attaches. The old one was installed with the bleed screw out the top and with the rigid line out the back (opposite of the push rod). After looking at the moss (http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=36484) and V.B. catalogs it looks like the bleed screw should stick out the back (opposite of the push rod) with the rigid line going in the top - what is correct? Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Feb 26 18:06:46 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:06:46 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Non Political, Little LBC and house insulation Message-ID: <015c01c99877$a97929b0$fc6b7d10$@net> I have searched all over the net and cant find a definitive answer as to if you can OVER insulate your ceiling space in the attic. After a really horrendous light bill, I got the electric company to test and change out their meter. I then installed 18 inches of blown cellulose (smart shopping on craigslist for others surplus) to my existing 7 that was in the attic. Well, today a friend stopped by and asked if I wanted a bunch of 6 batt insulation left over from a job he is doing (yes, I took it) so I added the 6 batts over the top of the blown cellulose. So my question is have I over insulated to a detrimental point??? I can tell you there are no drafts and it has a very even feel to the inside temp. My walls are solid blown cellulose which has a binder added to basically glue it in place (done when all the walls were stripped for a re-model). A few windows to change over to Low E and hopefully it will lower my monthly energy costs which will allow me more money for LBCs J See there is a LBC subject to my question. What say all yee?? Now if I can just find a 4.5 ton 13 to 14 seer compressor unit on craigslist I should be hardly cranking the meter. Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1973 - Release Date: 2/26/2009 7:03 AM From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Thu Feb 26 18:32:18 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:32:18 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Non Political, Little LBC and house insulation In-Reply-To: <201778241.20090226171245@pacifier.com> References: <015c01c99877$a97929b0$fc6b7d10$@net> <201778241.20090226171245@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <016a01c9987b$3b0dcf90$b1296eb0$@net> Forgot to add my one BITCH. You think there are monopolies..well you ought to try and fight the light company in a disagreement. My typical light bill has been around $300 and I got a light bill for 0ne month (Nov) which was $800.00!! Told the light company there was no way and they said PAY and then if we find something wrong with the meter when we send it off to be tested we will adjust your bills...Yea right!!!! Talk about CROOKS!! Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1973 - Release Date: 2/26/2009 7:03 AM From mgmaven at bellsouth.net Thu Feb 26 18:38:19 2009 From: mgmaven at bellsouth.net (Bob Spruck) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:38:19 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: <1624CFE5591947379855D1B48A3C45FD@HomeComputer> Message-ID: <4.1.20090226203204.00d289e8@mail.bellsouth.net> Next time you're in there, use this trick we vintage racers use: With the slave cylinder off, apply Locktite to the upper bolt and screw it tight into the transmission. Cut off the head and chamfer the edges of the end of the bolt. This way, you have a stud upon which the upper ear of the cylinder mounts. The lower bolt, which is much more accessible stays the same. The upper bolt locates the cylinder while the lower bolt holds it onto the transmission. I can't help you with the bleeding. That's a bear anyway you try it. Bob Dean Swanson wrote: >I just spent two hours on my back installing a new slave cylinder (I could >not get the top mounting bolt in or a wrench on it) only to have it leak >where the metal line attaches. > >The old one was installed with the bleed screw out the top and with the >rigid line out the back (opposite of the push rod). > >After looking at the moss >(http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=36484) and >V.B. catalogs it looks like the bleed screw should stick out the back >(opposite of the push rod) with the rigid line going in the top - what is >correct? > > > >Dean Swanson > >'62 A.H. Sprite mkII From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 26 18:45:19 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:45:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902261322k56959a8l88cfceab1f50fe28@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Lambert, Hendricks, and Ross I saw them at the Bird House in Chicago in '62. I think Annie Ross left the group shortly after that. Yolande Bavan was good too, but Annie was unique, and it wasn't the same without her. BTW, John Hendricks son-in-law was my drummer in the mid-seventies. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Thu Feb 26 18:46:11 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:46:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Dumb questions In-Reply-To: <5FCF0F1FCA3B4D409A8D0EF672F0C937@vgl.cvg.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: > Its "pot" metal and is usually shot. But not difficult to make. From soavero at yahoo.com Thu Feb 26 18:57:55 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:57:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 crank question Message-ID: <944534.71308.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Were the Spridget EN 40B crankshafts the only ones that were cross drilled from the factory? Ron From spritenut at comcast.net Thu Feb 26 19:16:40 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:16:40 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 crank question In-Reply-To: <944534.71308.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <944534.71308.qm@web30502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A74D08.30308@comcast.net> Ron Soave wrote: > Were the Spridget EN 40B crankshafts the only ones that were cross drilled from the factory? > > Yes, not sure about the A+ engines though. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From billmasq at hotmail.com Thu Feb 26 19:52:54 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:52:54 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS In-Reply-To: <49A6BDA0.7030403@frontiernet.net> References: <001001c99823$c08d8ff0$41a8afd0$@com> <49A6BDA0.7030403@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Kate Just be sure that you get knock-offs that are "8TPI" not "12TPI" for your midget- they changed from 12 to 8 in '65. I have a couple of sets of 12's but no 8's. Bill > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:04:48 -0800 > From: kgb at frontiernet.net > CC: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS > > Been there, had that happen. Don't miss the ex, still miss the farm. > It did turn out for the best, because if I hadn't dumped the ex, I > wouldn't have met Gary. My place now is small enough to manage by > myself, with some volunteer work from the neighbors, and large enough > for a nice garden and to keep a couple of horses. > > I would love to come up for your SOS, but am having back surgery on > March 12th. If you can find two of the items I am still looking for, > and will be including them in your garage sale, I would like to buy them > from you, if the price is right. I really want a set of winged knock > offs for my wire wheels and Brooklands wind screens, although the latter > will probably not be in this year's budget. > > Kate > > > > > > > > (Again, I'd rather save both my marriage and the farm, but need to be > > prepared to lose on both fronts.) > > > > > > > > So, anyone interested in helping? We'd target mid-March as the weather > > breaks a little. > > > > > > > > WST > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > You are subscribed as kgb at frontiernet.net > > > > http://www.team.net/archive > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/howitworks?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_hm_justgotbetter_howit works_022009 From andrewpayne at intrex.net Thu Feb 26 20:19:46 2009 From: andrewpayne at intrex.net (Andrew Payne) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:19:46 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Non Political, Little LBC and house insulation In-Reply-To: <016a01c9987b$3b0dcf90$b1296eb0$@net> References: <015c01c99877$a97929b0$fc6b7d10$@net><201778241.20090226171245@pacifier.com> <016a01c9987b$3b0dcf90$b1296eb0$@net> Message-ID: <426431298C8E43099E9317D14995A7A4@AndrewHP> While I would like to pay less, and work to find ways, I can't complain too badly. About 3 months ago, I received a phone call on my cell phone from the manager of my power co. He called to say that my bill would be huge that month, apologized in advance, he had rechecked the records, and had personally gone out to visually reread the meter. He profusely apologized for the bill, and offered help with financing the overage, or to find ways to cut the bill. My bill that month, $235 I love a small town. Drew -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Leo Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:32 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Non Political, Little LBC and house insulation Forgot to add my one BITCH. You think there are monopolies..well you ought to try and fight the light company in a disagreement. My typical light bill has been around $300 and I got a light bill for 0ne month (Nov) which was $800.00!! Told the light company there was no way and they said PAY and then if we find something wrong with the meter when we send it off to be tested we will adjust your bills...Yea right!!!! Talk about CROOKS!! Leo No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1973 - Release Date: 2/26/2009 7:03 AM You are subscribed as andrewpayne at intrex.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From millerls at ado13.com Thu Feb 26 20:50:49 2009 From: millerls at ado13.com (Larry & Sandi Miller) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:50:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Crank Message-ID: I have a friend looking for a 1275 crank that is std diameter (never been turned). If anybody has one they want to sell let me know. millerls at ado13.com From bmwwxman at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 22:55:12 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:55:12 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Word Of The Day In-Reply-To: <49A71E8F.80000@starrtech.net> References: <49A71E8F.80000@starrtech.net> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902262155w1462a22dkbdb120abe3087158@mail.gmail.com> Vocabulary Word for the Day LIQUIDITY definition: Liquidity is when you look at your retirement funds and wet your pants. -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From wmgilroy at gmail.com Thu Feb 26 23:15:53 2009 From: wmgilroy at gmail.com (William M. Gilroy) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:15:53 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: <945645.16770.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <945645.16770.qm@web30503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A78519.2010106@gmail.com> I would have to start working out to even be in that race. Ron Soave wrote: > At the risk of this turning into a Monty Python sketch ("Shoebox? Luxury!), I've got maybe 300 classical records, lots of jazz from the 1930's forward, lots of blues from Robert Johnson, rock from A(lvin) to Z(oom), etc., but I would be willing to bet a year's pay that I'm the only person on the list to work out to Brian Jones' recording of the Moroccan Joujouka tribe tonight. From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 00:46:41 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 01:46:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] "50 Years of Midgets - A Spridget Event" Take a look! Message-ID: <43840a7e0902262346o39094f5cgbe9cfe1e10b3b17a@mail.gmail.com> Sprite-Midget Club Presidents and all Spridgeteers, Venue proposals are available for your consideration for the 50th Anniversary of the MG Midget in 2011... Please take a look at them on the Sprite-Midget Club USA website. More proposals are expected before the March 15th, 2009 deadline. To check out those already submitted point your browser to < http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>. Click on the "Midget 50th" pull down tab and then on each of the proposals... Voting will commence starting March 15th and ending April 1st, 2009 and you all get a voice in this. It is your chance to help decide on this momentous event. Please note that ALL SPRIDGETS are welcome just as we did at Lake of the Ozarks for the Sprite 50th! -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Feb 27 01:31:59 2009 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:31:59 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dean, The bleeder has to be at the highest point for the air to escape. Your hard line should come out of the end. Gerard On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:47 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:25:26 -0500 > From: "Dean Swanson" > Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinder > To: > Message-ID: <1624CFE5591947379855D1B48A3C45FD at HomeComputer> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I just spent two hours on my back installing a new slave cylinder > (I could > not get the top mounting bolt in or a wrench on it) only to have it > leak > where the metal line attaches. > > The old one was installed with the bleed screw out the top and with > the > rigid line out the back (opposite of the push rod). > > After looking at the moss > (http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx? > PlateIndexID=36484) and > V.B. catalogs it looks like the bleed screw should stick out the back > (opposite of the push rod) with the rigid line going in the top - > what is > correct? From pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com Fri Feb 27 01:46:23 2009 From: pixelsmith at gerardsgarage.com (Gerard Chateauvieux) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:46:23 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] LBC and house In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7EDF09E1-6374-43C8-9B70-2591ADB6D8B7@gerardsgarage.com> Leo, You should look into a photovoltaic solar system. The incentives have changed as of January , this year. I don't know what Texas electric power providers offers as a rebate, but the Federal Tax Credit has increased from a cap of $2000 for residential systems to 30% of the system cost. Under certain circumstances the roof structure (if new roof or additional support is required) is potentially included for the credit. Some states actually but back excess electricity you produce (California does not... I now you are all surprised by that..LOL) Previously, only business installation qualified for the 30%, but this year the 30% for business is a grant, so you don't have to wait for tax time to get the refund. prices for solar panels have recently taken a significant dip in cost. More info here: http://www.seco.cpa.state.tx.us/re_incentives.htm If you have bills that size, you should really look into it. Gerard On Feb 26, 2009, at 11:47 PM, spridgets-request at autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:32:18 -0600 > From: "Leo" <60bugeye at cebridge.net> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Non Political, Little LBC and house > insulation > To: "Spridget List" > Message-ID: <016a01c9987b$3b0dcf90$b1296eb0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > Forgot to add my one BITCH. You think there are monopolies..well > you ought > to try and fight the light company in a disagreement. My typical > light bill > has been around $300 and I got a light bill for 0ne month (Nov) > which was > $800.00!! Told the light company there was no way and they said > PAY and > then if we find something wrong with the meter when we send it off > to be > tested we will adjust your bills...Yea right!!!! Talk about CROOKS!! > > Leo From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 02:38:48 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:38:48 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ......but new car from India for only 2K Message-ID: <205cef430902270138r58a5cd8ao468ae67928f2118a@mail.gmail.com> List, I don't know if these little cars will cost us 2K when they starts selling them here but whoa this is a wild price tag. Wonder how long it lasts? Lin http://tatanano.inservices.tatamotors.com/tatamotors/ http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gHjGyYdytS4zehPhacRhxLZEKjfA From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 03:18:09 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:18:09 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. In-Reply-To: <49A6FAB2.3090008@comcast.net> References: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> <49A6FAB2.3090008@comcast.net> Message-ID: <205cef430902270218k3bb648a3v517c24c9eb374dac@mail.gmail.com> OK Frank let me get this lingo down is a 10K rpm a motor that can rev to 10K without blowing a gasket? If so what is changed to do that on the A series? Are they special pistons and rings made from better metals as well as other parts? Also is the difference between the 948 & the 1275 the diameter of the cylinder wall and pistons? And are all the valve heads the same for the 948, 1098 and the 1275? Lin On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > GUY DAY wrote: > >> Linda, >> This may be a rather radical answer but get ANY engine, get 2 or 3 of them >> and strip them down and rebuild - >> > Guy > This is why Linda is rebuilding this engine. A practice run. > I'll be around to check things out and point her in the right direction. > Worst case, I have a few extra 948s ;) > Her engine is dis-assembled now, this is how she purchased it with a Bugeye > that "ran when parked" > It looks like all the parts are there and I told her to try a basic rebuild > with honing, rings, bearings, and gaskets. > If it runs, then she is ready for a super high compression 10,000 rpm full > blown race engine ;) Or at least a maybe a piston replacement job. > > > -- > Frank Clarici > Toms River, NJ From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 03:25:57 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:25:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Linda 948 Rebuild In-Reply-To: <37dc82d40902261348n22a5950dm7ca15c9794b3a1a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <37dc82d40902261348n22a5950dm7ca15c9794b3a1a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <205cef430902270225g7f6b365fw524916bb974ce033@mail.gmail.com> Yes Kirk very good advise : ) Lin On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Kirk Hargreaves wrote: > Linda, > > > One thing I would caution. Make sure you have a good well established > person to bore the cylinders out, to do all of the machine shop work. > > The first engine I rebuilt was a small block Chevy for a 1966 Camaro. > > The machine shop I wanted to use was run by a guy who had been there for > over 12 years building small blocks for the local dirt track. I am sure > that I would have had good results with this guy. > > When I went out to get my engine done, I discovered that the guy had just > started a two week vacation. > > Since I was too impatient, I used another guy in town. He offered a > correct > (not by numbers, but by displacement) 327 that he would do for the same > price with my 350 core in exchange. > > I thought it was too good of a thing to pass up. Turns out that he bored > the cylinders with a portable boring machine of some sort and the result > was > that my piston rings were never able to seat correctly. > > It was burning a quart for every 500 miles. My take is that the cylinders > were not bored straight, instead they were flanged out a bit - hence why > the > rings would never seat. > > Now I am thinking that this is a redundant email cause Frank would know who > to use for the machine shop tasks. But it was certainly a hard lesson for > me back when I was in my early 30's. > > Kirk > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 03:37:12 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:37:12 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Flounder's own SOS In-Reply-To: References: <4F6D7F885759476F91A57033411F965F@spider> Message-ID: <205cef430902270237t11f86238p5f00457ef755ec22@mail.gmail.com> I can help if it is fairly local. Hang in there WST. Linda On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:27 PM, David Lieb wrote: > So, anyone interested in helping? We'd target mid-March... >> > > I will be there. > David Lieb > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as grunthaner at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From grunthaner at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 03:42:39 2009 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 05:42:39 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] not LBC.......... my local Saturn Dealership closed : ( Message-ID: <205cef430902270242q1dcc5f00pe5914f425b349510@mail.gmail.com> List, I knew it was a mater of time but yesterday I saw a different brand car at my local Saturn Dealership in Eatontown, NJ where I bought my first and probably last new car a SW2 Saturn. The Saturn sign still hangs but that's probably because they didn't remove it yet. I pulled in the lot but didn't look in the windows, oh how sad. Lin From ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 06:44:33 2009 From: ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net (ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] what does your cars exhaust sound like? In-Reply-To: <1965367139.1687281235742182073.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1211512064.1687951235742273021.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Last week somebody po sted the shell commercial from youtube that had the ferrari's through the ages and their wonderful exhaust sounds.B that got me thinking since i need a new exhaust. What do I want mine to sound like?B I have heard some that sound just LOUD no real tuneB just loud and others that sound kind of whiny.B so the question is: What does your exhaust/car sound like? can you record and send it to me or post a link to youtube or something like that? where did you get it and all the particulars like engine size etc.B It might be interesting to have this info as a group and would most definately help me make my decicion as to what muffler exhaust to buy or avoid. thanks ryan From jimndi at frontiernet.net Fri Feb 27 07:13:14 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:13:14 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what does your cars exhaust sound like? References: <1211512064.1687951235742273021.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: In my humble opinion, I think your exhaust should sound like an offenhauser in heat. I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:44 AM Subject: [Spridgets] what does your cars exhaust sound like? > Last week somebody po sted the shell commercial from youtube that had the > ferrari's through the ages and their wonderful exhaust sounds.B that got > me > thinking since i need a new exhaust. What do I want mine to sound like?B > I > have heard some that sound just LOUD no real tuneB just loud and others > that > sound kind of whiny.B so the question is: > > > > What does your exhaust/car sound like? can you record and send it to me or > post a link to youtube or something like that? where did you get it and > all > the particulars like engine size etc.B It might be interesting to have > this > info as a group and would most definately help me make my decicion as to > what > muffler exhaust to buy or avoid. > > > > thanks > > ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jimndi at frontiernet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1974 - Release Date: 02/26/09 14:51:00 From bighealey at charter.net Fri Feb 27 08:00:50 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 07:00:50 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] WTB 3.9 or 3.7 pumpkin Message-ID: Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From shelden3 at pldi.net Fri Feb 27 08:46:24 2009 From: shelden3 at pldi.net (shelden3 at pldi.net) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:46:24 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust smell after a drive... Message-ID: <61447.65.255.79.69.1235749584.squirrel@mail2.pldi.net> Hello all. I've owned and driven two different spridgets and both have always had the same result. After a drive I get out smelling like car exhaust. I've checked the usual suspects, leaks under hood etc. Now some history: Both cars have had exhaust installed at same shop single tube from manifold (3n1 and LCB on other) to glass pack muffler On both cars they leave the tip right even with the bottom roll pan on the car, my thought is that air is coming under the car and rolling up the back and into the cockpit, bringing the exhaust gas with it. So does this seem plausible? How far past the back of the car does your tip extend? I'm thinking if it were a bit longer that maybe it would put the exhaust tip just beyond the point where the gas gets pulled back into the cockpit. I'm at a loss on this one, it isn't running rich or anything. It is my wife's only complaint..."we smell like we have been pushing a lawn mower when we get done driving"... HELP... Charlie From jdinnis at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 08:55:40 2009 From: jdinnis at gmail.com (John Innis) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:55:40 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust smell after a drive... In-Reply-To: <61447.65.255.79.69.1235749584.squirrel@mail2.pldi.net> References: <61447.65.255.79.69.1235749584.squirrel@mail2.pldi.net> Message-ID: I have been told before that this can happen exactly as you describe. It would be pretty easy to put an extension on the exhaust tip and see if it gets better. Our FLAPS carries a chrome extension that attaches with thumb screws. Maybe not secure enough for a permenante mount, but would at least let you figure out if this is what's causing the problem. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM, wrote: > Hello all. > > I've owned and driven two different spridgets and both have always had the > same result. After a drive I get out smelling like car exhaust. I've > checked the usual suspects, leaks under hood etc. Now some history: > > Both cars have had exhaust installed at same shop > single tube from manifold (3n1 and LCB on other) to glass pack muffler > > On both cars they leave the tip right even with the bottom roll pan on the > car, my thought is that air is coming under the car and rolling up the > back and into the cockpit, bringing the exhaust gas with it. > > So does this seem plausible? How far past the back of the car does your > tip extend? I'm thinking if it were a bit longer that maybe it would put > the exhaust tip just beyond the point where the gas gets pulled back into > the cockpit. > > I'm at a loss on this one, it isn't running rich or anything. It is my > wife's only complaint..."we smell like we have been pushing a lawn mower > when we get done driving"... > > HELP... > Charlie > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as jdinnis at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= From tequila.brad at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 08:57:17 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:57:17 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust smell after a drive... In-Reply-To: <61447.65.255.79.69.1235749584.squirrel@mail2.pldi.net> References: <61447.65.255.79.69.1235749584.squirrel@mail2.pldi.net> Message-ID: Get her to push the mower for a while. She'll be ready to go driving in no time!!! No charge for the marriage counseling. Brad On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 9:46 AM, wrote: > Hello all. > > I've owned and driven two different spridgets and both have always had the > same result. After a drive I get out smelling like car exhaust. I've > checked the usual suspects, leaks under hood etc. Now some history: > > Both cars have had exhaust installed at same shop > single tube from manifold (3n1 and LCB on other) to glass pack muffler > > On both cars they leave the tip right even with the bottom roll pan on the > car, my thought is that air is coming under the car and rolling up the > back and into the cockpit, bringing the exhaust gas with it. > > So does this seem plausible? How far past the back of the car does your > tip extend? I'm thinking if it were a bit longer that maybe it would put > the exhaust tip just beyond the point where the gas gets pulled back into > the cockpit. > > I'm at a loss on this one, it isn't running rich or anything. It is my > wife's only complaint..."we smell like we have been pushing a lawn mower > when we get done driving"... > > HELP... > Charlie > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as tequila.brad at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From cmanuel at wi.rr.com Fri Feb 27 09:53:10 2009 From: cmanuel at wi.rr.com (cmanuel at wi.rr.com) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:53:10 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] Word Of The Day In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902262155w1462a22dkbdb120abe3087158@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090227165310.4QPZM.149968.root@hrndva-web11-z01> What's retirement? I remember as a kid going to a few of those parties. Chris ---- Jim Johnson wrote: > Vocabulary Word for the Day > > LIQUIDITY > > definition: > Liquidity is when you look at your retirement funds and wet your > pants. From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 27 09:53:27 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:53:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] what does your cars exhaust sound like? In-Reply-To: <1211512064.1687951235742273021.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <155801.43825.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net wrote: "Last week somebody posted the shell commercial from youtube that had the ferrari's through the ages and their wonderful exhaust sounds... What do I want mine to sound like?" Ryan - if somebody comes up with a combination of pipes and baffles that will make my 1275 sound like a Ferrari, I'd like to know about it. Meanwhile, I'll try to figure out a way to capture my car's sound and get it to you. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 27 10:07:54 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:07:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content In-Reply-To: <015c01c99877$a97929b0$fc6b7d10$@net> Message-ID: <739854.97651.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Leo - I don't believe you can over-insulate a space unless you shove it so full that it starts to compress and therefore minimize the trapped air. Much of the way insulation works is by creating dead air pockets. Thicker insulation just creates more dead air pockets, which is a good thing. My last house was in Tennessee - I bought it new and had between two and three feet of insulation blown into the attic area. Worked amazingly well. (It did make it difficult to find your way over to a particular bedroom ceiling to wire up or hang a new fan though) Of course, now I have a 70+ year old Cape Cod on Long Island that is basically insulated with wadded up newspapers behind the plaster. Oh well - at least the kitchen and bathrooms I gutted are insulated... By the way, the garage is not very well insulated either - that's where the Midget lives, so there's my LBC content! - David Booker From mhagopian at hoppetool.com Fri Feb 27 10:09:51 2009 From: mhagopian at hoppetool.com (Matt Hagopian) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:09:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] what does your cars exhaust sound like? In-Reply-To: <1211512064.1687951235742273021.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <1965367139.1687281235742182073.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1211512064.1687951235742273021.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <87a1f55d0902270909y3b46a483j71a535bbe030152e@mail.gmail.com> I have a 1318cc Bug that has a supertrapp muffler on it.. it was so loud before id say at idle it was probably 95dB(no muffler). With the supertrapp muffler with all of the muffling plates in, id say it idles at 92dB. but at WOT, they are far over 100dB. The supertrapp didnt change the sound very much, so basically im running straight headers.. track use only :) Thought i would throw my 2cents in On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:44 AM, wrote: > Last week somebody po sted the shell commercial from youtube that had the > ferrari's through the ages and their wonderful exhaust sounds.B that got > me > thinking since i need a new exhaust. What do I want mine to sound like?B I > have heard some that sound just LOUD no real tuneB just loud and others > that > sound kind of whiny.B so the question is: > > > > What does your exhaust/car sound like? can you record and send it to me or > post a link to youtube or something like that? where did you get it and all > the particulars like engine size etc.B It might be interesting to have > this > info as a group and would most definately help me make my decicion as to > what > muffler exhaust to buy or avoid. > > > > thanks > > ryan > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as mhagopian at hoppetool.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Sincerely, Matt Hagopian From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 27 10:12:04 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:12:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust smell after a drive... In-Reply-To: <61447.65.255.79.69.1235749584.squirrel@mail2.pldi.net> Message-ID: <132175.23358.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> FYI - My exhaust tip is probably 4 or 5 inches past the bottom of the rear pan. (that's a guess as I'm not at home now) I bet you have the cause nailed. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri Feb 27 10:14:23 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:14:23 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] what does your cars exhaust sound like? References: <155801.43825.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I have a nice Bell exhaust system that I got from Peter C that is really quiet. So quiet, that I got grief from some of the guys in our local car club. So, in a senior moment, I bought a STEBRO muffler off eBayfor a really stupid price; remember this was pre-recession. Well, now I am put at the back of the pack so the others don't have to listen to it. It sounds good to me but since I lost my hearing who knows! Very loud and very deep tone with the 1275. I will probably put the Bell back on before the next road trip, again maybe not. Loud is good in a 12 ft car! Mark Nashville "Last week somebody posted the shell commercial from youtube that had the ferrari's through the ages and their wonderful exhaust sounds... What do I want mine to sound like?" Ryan - if somebody comes up with a combination of pipes and baffles that will make my 1275 sound like a Ferrari, I'd like to know about it. Meanwhile, I'll try to figure out a way to capture my car's sound and get it to you. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 10:26:09 2009 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus Message-ID: <663310896.1794321235755569251.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> What the heck is going on? Are tonneau covers going the way of sugar (5 lb. bags now 4 lb.) and coffee (now 11.5 oz. in a pound)? Just after I bought my '79 Midget, I purchased a used tonneau cover from a car guy in Knoxville. The fabric was fairly heavy and the tonneau fit very nicely, and had snaps on the tabs that hung over the windows. I measured and installed the matching snaps on the doors just below the windows, and when everything was snapped up, the tonneau was pretty darned secure. That original tonnau finally went the way of sun and use damage and I had to trash it, thinking I will just buy another on ebay. So I purchased one that was reportedly for a Sprite or Midget. The picture had the pockets in the right places--two for the headrests and one for the steering wheel. But when I tried to snap this tonneau on, the snaps on the tonneau wouldn't quite reach the snaps on the car. and the tabs over the windows had NO snaps on them, and there was NO WAY, once the few snaps it would reach in the rear were engaged, it would reach the FRONT snaps. So I went back to ebay and bought another one--described for a '69-'79 Sprite or Midget. It is really nice, a;though the fabric is somewhat thinner, and all the rear snaps are snapped, but the tabs over the windows/doors are TOO DAMNED SHORT, coming to just over the windows themselves, and there are NO snaps on these either, to secure the tonneau over the doors. Why is there no standard for producing a tonneau cover? These that I am buying are not NEW tonneaus, so (as far as I know) are not made in China or Taiwan. All I want is a tonneau cover that will engage ALL the snaps on my car, INCLUDING those that I installed on the outside of the doors, just below the windows. Anybody else having trouble with ill-fitting tonneaus? --David C. From bogodwin at bellsouth.net Fri Feb 27 10:33:00 2009 From: bogodwin at bellsouth.net (Bobby Godwin) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:33:00 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How come nobody has mentioned the Hoosier Hotshots? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of David Lieb Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:57 PM To: Billy Zoom; S pridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture >> Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavor > That was Lonnie Donegan. How can you guys not know Spike Jones? > Cocktails for Two was my favorite, but anything with Doodles Weaver was > cool > too. BTW, I did a few shows with Doodles. I have quite a few Spike Jones things. I think my favorite CD of his music was the album named "Spiked!" which was bold enough NOT to simply collect the same old standards as everybody else. Instead, they sought out some of the good stuff that most of us never heard. My favorite was his unfinished work called "Frantic Freeway". It never got any lyrics, but the music is great fun. The album ends with Spike's rendition of "The Nutcracker Suite". I had been looking for it unsuccessfully for years. Growing up I used to listen to it on the reel-to-reel tapes that my parents had pirated from a relative's two disk set on 78rpm (the flip side of the tape was the pirating of Burl Ives' great children's album of 1958 entitled "Captain Burl Ives' Ark"; just TRY to find that one!). It was nice to get it on CD and find out what all the broken tapes were missing ;-) David Lieb You are subscribed as bogodwin at bellsouth.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From lee.fox at sbcglobal.net Fri Feb 27 10:42:47 2009 From: lee.fox at sbcglobal.net (Lee Fox) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:42:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A82617.1060500@sbcglobal.net> OK, I'm sure this has been addressed in the past, but can't find a good answer. This weekend I'm going to play with my SU HS2s that I have in my 1500 (yea, not original, but work very well and certainly better than the single ZS.) I'm changing the needles (from AAX to ABT) to get a little richer mixture at speed and wondering about the overrun valves fitted to the throttle plates. You know, those springy things in the butterfly. Should I remove these and solder the hole or just leave them alone? The car does come back to idle slowly, so I know they are working. I don't have any emission controls anymore and don't have to get it smogged. I'm not going to race it, but it does seem to be a restriction to good airflow. What's the consensus of the group? Thanks. Lee From mdrowe at optonline.net Fri Feb 27 10:46:30 2009 From: mdrowe at optonline.net (Michael Rowe) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:46:30 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust smell after a drive... In-Reply-To: <132175.23358.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <132175.23358.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7F9F1F84E28A45188BB8FBCAF0FE3B6A@Home> A piece of tin can and a hose clamp would probably be enough to test the solution. Michael Rowe '74 Midget Long Island, NY From tinydog at snet.net Fri Feb 27 10:49:23 2009 From: tinydog at snet.net (tinydog at snet.net) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:49:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus In-Reply-To: <663310896.1794321235755569251.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <985299.8816.qm@web83912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> tinydog offered: David, The pattern could be incorrect OR fitting might work in warmer weather or if you heat the tonneau. --- On Fri, 2/27/09, dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote: From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net Subject: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus To: "Spridgets" Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 12:26 PM What the heck is going on? Are tonneau covers going the way of sugar (5 lb. bags now 4 lb.) and coffee (now 11.5 oz. in a pound)? Just after I bought my '79 Midget, I purchased a used tonneau cover from a car guy in Knoxville. The fabric was fairly heavy and the tonneau fit very nicely, and had snaps on the tabs that hung over the windows. I measured and installed the matching snaps on the doors just below the windows, and when everything was snapped up, the tonneau was pretty darned secure. That original tonnau finally went the way of sun and use damage and I had to trash it, thinking I will just buy another on ebay. So I purchased one that was reportedly for a Sprite or Midget. The picture had the pockets in the right places--two for the headrests and one for the steering wheel. But when I tried to snap this tonneau on, the snaps on the tonneau wouldn't quite reach the snaps on the car. and the tabs over the windows had NO snaps on them, and there was NO WAY, once the few snaps it would reach in the rear were engaged, it would reach the FRONT snaps. So I went back to ebay and bought another one--described for a '69-'79 Sprite or Midget. It is really nice, a;though the fabric is somewhat thinner, and all the rear snaps are snapped, but the tabs over the windows/doors are TOO DAMNED SHORT, coming to just over the windows themselves, and there are NO snaps on these either, to secure the tonneau over the doors. Why is there no standard for producing a tonneau cover? These that I am buying are not NEW tonneaus, so (as far as I know) are not made in China or Taiwan. All I want is a tonneau cover that will engage ALL the snaps on my car, INCLUDING those that I installed on the outside of the doors, just below the windows. Anybody else having trouble with ill-fitting tonneaus? From cclabaw at juno.com Fri Feb 27 10:49:15 2009 From: cclabaw at juno.com (cclabaw at juno.com) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 17:49:15 GMT Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinder Message-ID: <20090227.094915.9366.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com> Or you can use a socket-head set screw the same way. Then there's a way to get it out if you need/choose to. Clay L. '67 Sprite -- Bob Spruck wrote: Next time you're in there, use this trick we vintage racers use: With the slave cylinder off, apply Locktite to the upper bolt and screw it tight into the transmission. Cut off the head and chamfer the edges of the end of the bolt. This way, you have a stud upon which the upper ear of the cylinder mounts. The lower bolt, which is much more accessible stays the same. The upper bolt locates the cylinder while the lower bolt holds it onto the transmission. I can't help you with the bleeding. That's a bear anyway you try it. Bob Dean Swanson wrote: >I just spent two hours on my back installing a new slave cylinder (I could >not get the top mounting bolt in or a wrench on it) only to have it leak >where the metal line attaches. > >The old one was installed with the bleed screw out the top and with the >rigid line out the back (opposite of the push rod). > >After looking at the moss >(http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=36484) and >V.B. catalogs it looks like the bleed screw should stick out the back >(opposite of the push rod) with the rigid line going in the top - what is >correct? > > > >Dean Swanson > >'62 A.H. Sprite mkII You are subscribed as cclabaw at juno.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets ____________________________________________________________ Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLaWy8qOET7TrbZThCnMMmlubrr SCKNyZ2m3Kz20CB3qpAmyGQHLa/ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Feb 27 10:54:43 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:54:43 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Non Political, Little LBC and house insulation Message-ID: I just had a #484 gas bill and anyone who's visited knows I don't have a large house. In a message dated 27/02/2009 01:07:11 GMT Standard Time, 60bugeye at cebridge.net writes: After a really horrendous light bill, From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Feb 27 10:59:17 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:59:17 EST Subject: [Spridgets] what does your cars exhaust sound like? Message-ID: The really interesting exhaust notes come from an engine with a long duration cam. IMHO of course. In a message dated 27/02/2009 14:13:35 GMT Standard Time, jimndi at frontiernet.net writes: info as a group and would most definately help me make my decicion as to > what > muffler exhaust to buy or avoid. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type audio/x-wav which had a name of metro_6R41.wav] From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Feb 27 11:09:16 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:09:16 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] exhaust smell after a drive... In-Reply-To: <132175.23358.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I get the exhaust smell in my car also. Can't quite see the tip of the exhaust here, but you kind of get the idea. http://www3.sympatico.ca/robertduquette/temp/RedTonneau.jpg ----Original Message Follows---- From: David Booker FYI - My exhaust tip is probably 4 or 5 inches past the bottom of the rear pan. (that's a guess as I'm not at home now) I bet you have the cause nailed. David Booker '71 Midget Long Island From mikey at b2systems.com Fri Feb 27 11:13:49 2009 From: mikey at b2systems.com (mike rambour) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:13:49 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] what does your cars exhaust sound like? In-Reply-To: <155801.43825.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <155801.43825.qm@web36806.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1235758429.24451.109.camel@WebBrowser> Can't happen, Spridgets don't have flat cranks like the Ferrari's do. Best you can do on a Spridget is make it sound like a British sports car. Sorry to disappoint but that flat crankshaft is what gives the Ferrari (and a few other exotics) that distinctive sound we all crave our cars to sound like. mike (who has a flat crank powered car but not with the little horsey on the front) On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 08:53 -0800, David Booker wrote: > --- On Fri, 2/27/09, ryan.kubanoff at comcast.net > wrote: > > "Last week somebody posted the shell commercial from youtube that had the > ferrari's through the ages and their wonderful exhaust sounds... What do I > want mine to sound like?" > > Ryan - if somebody comes up with a combination of pipes and baffles that will > make my 1275 sound like a Ferrari, I'd like to know about it. > > Meanwhile, I'll try to figure out a way to capture my car's sound and get it > to you. > David Booker > '71 Midget > Long Island From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Feb 27 11:25:48 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:25:48 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content In-Reply-To: <739854.97651.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: My garage must be well insulated. ( but not heated ) It stays cold in there for a long time. If the weather is damp and you open the door, the cold cars collect condensation. I don't like to see that. ----Original Message Follows---- From: David Booker By the way, the garage is not very well insulated either - that's where the Midget lives, so there's my LBC content! - David Booker From bmwwxman at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 11:26:10 2009 From: bmwwxman at gmail.com (Jim Johnson) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:26:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content In-Reply-To: <739854.97651.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <015c01c99877$a97929b0$fc6b7d10$@net> <739854.97651.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <43840a7e0902271026h402b5470h3f5507488f994a16@mail.gmail.com> David & Leo, My experience is contrary to David's. I live in a 100 year old house. The house across the street is from the same period. The owner of that house jammed it full of all the blown and bat insulation he could get into it. Eventually, the house could not breath at all and trapped all the atmospheric moisture inside. In the winter that moisture began to condense as "sweat" inside his walls and ceilings. Eventually, his interior plaster was ruined and mold grew to be so bad that he had to tear out the entire interior and a bunch of the insulation. It was a mess. My builder friend says in our west Kansas climate, anything over R19 is a waste and will cause you trouble sooner or later. That number might vary for other parts of the country?? Cheers!! Jim On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:07 AM, David Booker wrote: > Leo - > I don't believe you can over-insulate a space unless you shove it so full > that > it starts to compress and therefore minimize the trapped air. Much of the > way > insulation works is by creating dead air pockets. Thicker insulation just > creates more dead air pockets, which is a good thing. My last house was in > Tennessee - I bought it new and had between two and three feet of > insulation > blown into the attic area. Worked amazingly well. (It did make it > difficult > to find your way over to a particular bedroom ceiling to wire up or hang a > new > fan though) Of course, now I have a 70+ year old Cape Cod on Long Island > that > is basically insulated with wadded up newspapers behind the plaster. Oh > well > - at least the kitchen and bathrooms I gutted are insulated... > > By the way, the garage is not very well insulated either - that's where the > Midget lives, so there's my LBC content! > > - David Booker > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as bmwwxman at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -- Cheers!! Jim "A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have." - Gerald Ford From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Fri Feb 27 11:29:04 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:29:04 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves References: <49A82617.1060500@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Dunno bout everyone else's opinion, but I would recommend going to Joe Curto and buying a new pair of throttle shafts and a new pair of butterflies without the valves. They were only engineered to pass the period emissions tests, NOT to actually improve the emissions at all ;-) Joe insists that it only takes one good backfire to melt the solder and swallow the poppet valve. Is it worth the risk? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 From corvallis at peoplepc.com Fri Feb 27 11:37:19 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 10:37:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content In-Reply-To: References: <739854.97651.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C3DF729B2AF472B9F2A38A6EAC69D2E@spider> My nine-car garage is uninsulated and does the same thing. Just curse your fate, but smile when it rains. ...bill in willamette valley in oregon ================================================= -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Duquette Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:26 AM To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content My garage must be well insulated. ( but not heated ) It stays cold in there for a long time. If the weather is damp and you open the door, the cold cars collect condensation. I don't like to see that. ----Original Message Follows---- From: David Booker By the way, the garage is not very well insulated either - that's where the Midget lives, so there's my LBC content! - David Booker _______________________________________________ From mark at nashvilletn.org Fri Feb 27 11:55:21 2009 From: mark at nashvilletn.org (Mark) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:55:21 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves References: <49A82617.1060500@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: I have cut the post off the poppet valve and just soldered up the holes, not much to worry about if the solder melts. Have run several that way without issue. But, of course, David is right and you probably need new shafts anyway. Peter C. has had them in stock when I needed them. Mark ----- Original Message ----- Dunno bout everyone else's opinion, but I would recommend going to Joe Curto and buying a new pair of throttle shafts and a new pair of butterflies without the valves. They were only engineered to pass the period emissions tests, NOT to actually improve the emissions at all ;-) Joe insists that it only takes one good backfire to melt the solder and swallow the poppet valve. Is it worth the risk? David Lieb 1972 1960 1974 1973 _______________________________________________ From grday at btinternet.com Fri Feb 27 12:38:13 2009 From: grday at btinternet.com (GUY DAY) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:38:13 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content References: <015c01c99877$a97929b0$fc6b7d10$@net><739854.97651.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902271026h402b5470h3f5507488f994a16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: It is not necessarily the >amount< of insulation but >where< it is placed that will kill a house. As you say, you MUST allow for ventilation to avoid condensation. A common error is to block up all of the ventilation holes then condensation will rot the house just as you said. I'll bet the guy across the street with the plaster problem also has rot in the timber ends inside his attic but he may not have found that yet! You can waste your time and money by having too much insulation but you'll waste it to a far bigger degree if you block up the correct ventilation for your house construction type. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Johnson" To: Cc: "Spridget List" Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content > David & Leo, > > My experience is contrary to David's. I live in a 100 year old house. The > house across the street is from the same period. The owner of that house > jammed it full of all the blown and bat insulation he could get into it. > Eventually, the house could not breath at all and trapped all the > atmospheric moisture inside. In the winter that moisture began to condense > as "sweat" inside his walls and ceilings. Eventually, his interior plaster > was ruined and mold grew to be so bad that he had to tear out the entire > interior and a bunch of the insulation. It was a mess. My builder friend > says in our west Kansas climate, anything over R19 is a waste and will > cause > you trouble sooner or later. That number might vary for other parts of the > country?? > > Cheers!! > Jim From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Feb 27 12:44:03 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:44:03 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > How come nobody has mentioned the Hoosier Hotshots? So far, the only one you've come up this that I don't know is Rush. I assume they were a 70's band. From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Fri Feb 27 12:47:11 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:47:11 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I would recommend going to Joe Curto FWIW, I wouldn't recommend Joe for anything. From thistle_3619 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 27 13:18:11 2009 From: thistle_3619 at yahoo.com (James Gruber) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:18:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Ill fitting tonneaus Message-ID: <483925.9563.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> David, As long as you can get the snaps in the back to fit, it is simple to add a snap extender to the front of the tonneau. Get yourself a piece of nylon webbing 1" strap from someplace like JoAnne's Fabric or one of those type of stores the Spridgeter's only go into unless they are in search of vinyl for interior panels. Will cost you all of a buck or two for a ft of material. Add a male and female snap on either end of a 1-2" piece of nylon webbing or whatever length is needed to connect to those snaps on the bottom of the windshield. Problem of ill fitting tonneau is permanently solved without having to fight with it every time I want to use it. On another subject, I added an extra snap approximately 1-2 inches behind the vent window. I used a snap base with a threaded screw fitting, drilled a small hole and tapped with the appropriate thread size and screwed in the snap base. I added a snap on the tonneau on each side with top pulled tight. Top no longer sags under water weight and top fits tight on the PS when at speed. No more coming loose and pulling away. Two simple solutions for ill fitting tonneaus. From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Fri Feb 27 13:25:27 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:25:27 EST Subject: [Spridgets] what does your cars exhaust sound like? Message-ID: Lotus, forgot which one but it's the late wedge. In a message dated 27/02/2009 18:14:18 GMT Standard Time, mikey at b2systems.com writes: mike (who has a flat crank powered car From robertduquette at sympatico.ca Fri Feb 27 13:26:59 2009 From: robertduquette at sympatico.ca (Robert Duquette) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:26:59 +0000 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: They are a going concern that started in the '70's. They are Canadian though!! Maybe that explains it? :) Prolific: http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/13GB08FL4Q9BV ----Original Message Follows---- From: Billy Zoom > How come nobody has mentioned the Hoosier Hotshots? So far, the only one you've come up this that I don't know is Rush. I assume they were a 70's band. From froggi60 at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 14:21:57 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:21:57 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] NOTHING WINS In-Reply-To: References: <43840a7e0902260054p4374d912w8c6787147ae80de@mail.gmail.com> <1AFBE8DB226D4E66B9A0BC2C55CE273A@dell330> <2ad6c6b10902261205y794b1bccuacb65fdee938d1a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902271321r273fffe6y8e1fa33c466aa3bf@mail.gmail.com> I love being a winner! On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:54 PM, GUY DAY wrote: > I guess you won the prize clown award for today > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* WFO Herb > *To:* GUY DAY > *Cc:* Spridgets > *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:05 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] NOTHING WINS > > If this is a test, here's my take.... > > Since you 'read' there must be something to read. > > If you have "nothing"...there is nothing to read. > > Therefore "Political sh*t" is what you want to read. > > Did I win??? > > > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:20 AM, GUY DAY wrote: > >> If I have to read Political sh*t or nothing - guess which wins. >> >> Guy R Day From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Fri Feb 27 15:25:00 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:25:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <556721.70147.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Probably a good point about the ventilation. My new house in Tennessee had venting all the way around the roof, plus ridge venting. It definitely has to breathe up there, but I think a nice fat layer between the attic/roof space and your living area is probably a good idea. - David Booker From kk7ss at verizon.net Fri Feb 27 16:17:15 2009 From: kk7ss at verizon.net (Dave G.) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:17:15 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content In-Reply-To: <556721.70147.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: , <556721.70147.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A803FB.778.194D5FC@kk7ss.verizon.net> Definitely... there should be no insulation on top of the soffits.... Unless you want Ice dmas ibn the winter... On 27 Feb 2009 at 14:25, David Booker wrote: >> Probably a good point about the ventilation. My new house in >> Tennessee had venting all the way around the roof, plus ridge venting. >> It definitely has to breathe up there, but I think a nice fat layer >> betw -- Dave G. KK7SS '65 MK III Sprite in Richland, WA If I wake up in the morning, and I hurt, it means that I'm still alive !! From soavero at yahoo.com Fri Feb 27 17:13:04 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 16:13:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Rush book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <703388.73741.qm@web30501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The drummer wrote a book about riding a BMW motorcycle tens of thousands of miles as grief therapy after his wife and daughter died. It was a really good read for the first seventy percent or so. I was pleasantly surprised. His utter disdain for Americans got a little tiresome, but I get like that too sometimes. Apparently he used to bring a bike on tour and ride behind the bus from city to city. A guy could do that with a Sprite (are you listening, Zoom?). Ron --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Robert Duquette wrote: > From: Robert Duquette > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:26 PM > They are a going concern that started in the '70's. > They are Canadian though!! Maybe that explains it? :) > > Prolific: > http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/syltguides/fullview/13GB08FL4Q9BV From d.swanson at earthlink.net Fri Feb 27 17:13:16 2009 From: d.swanson at earthlink.net (Dean Swanson) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:13:16 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinder part II Message-ID: OK - it appears (from what everyone on the list is saying) that I have my clutch slave cylinder plumbed the correct way, so I will have to take it of and inspect it for damage causing the leak. A question for those for you who have had multiple Spridgets - Is there a visible difference between the slave cylinders used with the rubber hose and the rigid tube version - incase I ordered/received the wrong one? Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII (with a puddle under it) From wolf.brent at gmail.com Fri Feb 27 17:25:51 2009 From: wolf.brent at gmail.com (Brent Wolf) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:25:51 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus In-Reply-To: <663310896.1794321235755569251.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <663310896.1794321235755569251.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <62b83300902271625k4d43b1c2u870ba2a41cb499f@mail.gmail.com> David, The tonneau for my 76 fit as you described, just barely covering the windows. As far as I know that is the tonneau that came with the car. My 71 had the snaps installed on the door, but the tonneau that came with the car did not have snaps. The tonneau did come down further. then I picked up a 72, it did not have the snaps on the doors, but the tonneau that was in the truck had the snaps. Go figure??? At least the tonneaus for the 71 and 72 covered the windows. Brent 71 Midget On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:26 PM, wrote: > What the heck is going on? Are tonneau covers going the way of sugar (5 lb. > bags now 4 lb.) and coffee (now 11.5 oz. in a pound)? Just after I bought my > '79 Midget, I purchased a used tonneau cover from a car guy in Knoxville. > The fabric was fairly heavy and the tonneau fit very nicely, and had snaps > on the tabs that hung over the windows. I measured and installed the > matching snaps on the doors just below the windows, and when everything was > snapped up, the tonneau was pretty darned secure. > > That original tonnau finally went the way of sun and use damage and I had > to trash it, thinking I will just buy another on ebay. So I purchased one > that was reportedly for a Sprite or Midget. The picture had the pockets in > the right places--two for the headrests and one for the steering wheel. But > when I tried to snap this tonneau on, the snaps on the tonneau wouldn't > quite reach the snaps on the car. and the tabs over the windows had NO snaps > on them, and there was NO WAY, once the few snaps it would reach in the rear > were engaged, it would reach the FRONT snaps. > > So I went back to ebay and bought another one--described for a '69-'79 > Sprite or Midget. It is really nice, a;though the fabric is somewhat > thinner, and all the rear snaps are snapped, but the tabs over the > windows/doors are TOO DAMNED SHORT, coming to just over the windows > themselves, and there are NO snaps on these either, to secure the tonneau > over the doors. > > Why is there no standard for producing a tonneau cover? These that I am > buying are not NEW tonneaus, so (as far as I know) are not made in China or > Taiwan. All I want is a tonneau cover that will engage ALL the snaps on my > car, INCLUDING those that I installed on the outside of the doors, just > below the windows. > > Anybody else having trouble with ill-fitting tonneaus? > > --David C. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as wolf.brent at gmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 18:23:11 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:23:11 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Word Of The Day In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902262155w1462a22dkbdb120abe3087158@mail.gmail.com> References: <49A71E8F.80000@starrtech.net> <43840a7e0902262155w1462a22dkbdb120abe3087158@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A891FF.6080402@comcast.net> Jim Johnson wrote: > Vocabulary Word for the Day > > LIQUIDITY > > definition: > Liquidity is when you look at your retirement funds and wet your > pants. > > You must be doing good if you are creaming you jeans. ED From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 18:31:44 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:31:44 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Not LBC ......but new car from India for only 2K In-Reply-To: <205cef430902270138r58a5cd8ao468ae67928f2118a@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902270138r58a5cd8ao468ae67928f2118a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A89400.8070205@comcast.net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I don't know if these little cars will cost us 2K when they starts selling > them here but whoa this is a wild price tag. Wonder how long it lasts? > Lin > > http://tatanano.inservices.tatamotors.com/tatamotors/ > > Swell, now we know what the Tata Jaguars will be like. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 18:34:54 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:34:54 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] A series motor rebuilding books, websites or Magazine articles. In-Reply-To: <205cef430902270218k3bb648a3v517c24c9eb374dac@mail.gmail.com> References: <205cef430902260341k7dd9100aib20bbbad76a27fd7@mail.gmail.com> <49A6FAB2.3090008@comcast.net> <205cef430902270218k3bb648a3v517c24c9eb374dac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <49A894BE.4060308@comcast.net> Linda Grunthaner wrote: > OK Frank let me get this lingo down is a 10K rpm a motor that can rev > to 10K without blowing a gasket? If so what is changed to do that on > the A series? Are they special pistons and rings made from better > metals as well as other parts? Also is the difference between the 948 > & the 1275 the diameter of the cylinder wall and pistons? And are all > the valve heads the same for the 948, 1098 and the 1275? > A 10k motor is every Spridget person's dream. 9k seems to be about the most the racers can get without very serious work, rwad EXPENSIVE work. You will blow more than a gasket at 10,000 rpms, more like blow the engine apart. The heads are interchangable between 948s and 1098s but the 1275 has it's own head. Yes the bores are the basic difference -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 18:56:52 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:56:52 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content In-Reply-To: <556721.70147.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <556721.70147.qm@web36803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <49A899E4.7060503@comcast.net> David Booker wrote: > Probably a good point about the ventilation. My new house in Tennessee had > venting all the way around the roof, plus ridge venting. It definitely has to > breathe up there, but I think a nice fat layer between the attic/roof space > and your living area is probably a good idea. > > As long as there is enough attic ventilation and the soffits have prop-a-vents to keep the air flow from being stopped by the insulation, There is no reason you can not have 2 feet of ceiling insulation. NEVER insulate the rafters and NEVER block up any vents no matter how cold the attic is. I have replaced roof decking from dumb people who insulate the rafters or block up all the vents. I have seen so much condensation in attics it looked like it was raining because the vents were closed up. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From 60bugeye at cebridge.net Fri Feb 27 19:01:10 2009 From: 60bugeye at cebridge.net (Leo) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:01:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content In-Reply-To: <43840a7e0902271026h402b5470h3f5507488f994a16@mail.gmail.com> References: <015c01c99877$a97929b0$fc6b7d10$@net> <739854.97651.qm@web36805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <43840a7e0902271026h402b5470h3f5507488f994a16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <023301c99948$6d8e09d0$48aa1d70$@net> According to the Dept of Energy HYPERLINK "http://www.ornl.gov/sci/roofs+walls/insulation/fig2.html"http://www.ornl.go v/sci/roofs+walls/insulation/fig2.html I should have between and r-40 to r60 value installed in my attic. Interesting reading on house insulation tips and requirements HYPERLINK "http://www.ornl.gov/sci/roofs+walls/insulation/ins_05.html#where"http://www .ornl.gov/sci/roofs+walls/insulation/ins_05.html#where Leo .3/1975 - Release Date: 2/27/2009 7:05 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1975 - Release Date: 2/27/2009 7:05 AM From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 19:05:34 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:05:34 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus In-Reply-To: <663310896.1794321235755569251.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <663310896.1794321235755569251.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <49A89BEE.6040000@comcast.net> dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote: > What the heck is going on? Are tonneau covers going the way of sugar (5 lb. bags now 4 lb.) and coffee (now 11.5 oz. in a pound)? They shrink. Be warned that NOS tops and covers may sound enticing but they most likely shrank over the last 30-50 years stored in a box somewhere. I bought an NOS Amco top for my 67 Sprite, new in the box and dated 1980. Well after much stretching and heating, I got it installed the next day the vinyl was ripped in 2 spots, the stitching was giving out all over, and it was just about impossible to raise and snap it. Now I have a new top, not NOS. I also have a real problem with the original tonneau from that car. All the snaps are there, no head rests and it came with the car but it just doesn't fit like it did in 1967. I can not get the windshield snaps on not the last snap nearest the doors. I have seen some new ones, pricey and cheap looking. I had one made for my Bugeye from a local shop, cheaper that the catalogs, any color I wanted, they fit it to the car as they made it and no more water pockets like the original that puddled the rain until it ran in along the doors. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 19:08:58 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:08:58 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves In-Reply-To: <49A82617.1060500@sbcglobal.net> References: <49A82617.1060500@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <49A89CBA.1070707@comcast.net> I have seen heat warped poppet springs from a backfire. You would have to cook an engine pretty long to melt solder. I just snip off the poppets and solder the holes. Solder them up smooth and wire wheel or sand any lumps or bumps. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 19:09:57 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:09:57 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Non Political, Little LBC and house insulation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A89CF5.2060101@comcast.net> WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com wrote: > I just had a #484 gas bill and anyone who's visited knows I don't have a > large house. > > > Are you snorting the stuff? You have a leak or your heat is set at 90. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From spritenut at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 19:21:22 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:21:22 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinder part II In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A89FA2.9080803@comcast.net> Dean Swanson wrote: > > A question for those for you who have had multiple Spridgets - Is there a > visible difference between the slave cylinders used with the rubber hose and > the rigid tube version - incase I ordered/received the wrong one? > > > > Hard pipe slaves are 7/8" bore. 1275s used a 1" bore and had the rubber hose. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au Fri Feb 27 19:47:58 2009 From: a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au (Andy Webster) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:47:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves Message-ID: <776461.83120.qm@web50606.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I bought a cheap but nice looking HIF44 on ebay for my sprite that had the anti-run-on valve. I hated that it killed all the compression braking, so bought another, cheaper HIF44 and swapped the butterflies. I like the throttle to have a strong return spring also...it seems to help give the exhaust a nice growl when the car is slowing down or when you change down the gears. That valve in the throttle disc can't be good for airflow... give them the A. on the subject of backfires...is it really bad for the engine to purposely backfire? for example, when your heading down hill into a tunnel at 50mph, and you close the throttle and switch the ignition off for 3 or 4 seconds, then switch it back on....BOOM! My dad blew a muffler apart doing this, but do you think it could damage the engine at all? Andy --- On Sat, 28/2/09, Lee Fox wrote: From: Lee Fox Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves To: spridgets at autox.team.net Received: Saturday, 28 February, 2009, 4:42 AM OK, I'm sure this has been addressed in the past, but can't find a good answer. This weekend I'm going to play with my SU HS2s that I have in my 1500 (yea, not original, but work very well and certainly better than the single ZS.) I'm changing the needles (from AAX to ABT) to get a little richer mixture at speed and wondering about the overrun valves fitted to the throttle plates. You know, those springy things in the butterfly. Should I remove these and solder the hole or just leave them alone? The car does come back to idle slowly, so I know they are working. I don't have any emission controls anymore and don't have to get it smogged. I'm not going to race it, but it does seem to be a restriction to good airflow. What's the consensus of the group? Thanks. Lee You are subscribed as a_d_webster at yahoo.com.au http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets Stay connected to the people that matter most with a smarter inbox. Take a look http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mail/smarterinbox From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 27 20:10:16 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:10:16 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves In-Reply-To: <49A89CBA.1070707@comcast.net> Message-ID: <> IF one has the 'talent' and/or equipment. WHY keep RE-inventing the wheel when you can do as I DO and have DONE: just purchase NEW non-poppit discs !!! K.I.S.S Rule # 2345 !! Ed From shop at justbrits.com Fri Feb 27 20:18:01 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:18:01 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] House insulation and some gratuitous LBC content In-Reply-To: <49A899E4.7060503@comcast.net> Message-ID: <<...NEVER insulate the rafters...>> Sorry Frank, just not so!! HOWEVER, there is only ONE way to do so correctly (and I have done so quite successfully several times) and that is do install the specialty-purpose-built 'duct' which runs from the ridge to the soffit and allows for the MANDATORY air circulation !!! And NO, Home Defect didn't have it!!! 'Course I am not sure how well it would work with 2" x 4" rafters !!!! LOL From bighealey at charter.net Sat Feb 28 04:44:40 2009 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:44:40 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone near Leicester, United Kingdom Message-ID: <0A64E331200145C8BD647FEF2811F6BF@TRACY> Is any one real close to Leicester, United Kingdom? I am looking at an ebay item that would need to be picked up and shipped to California. If you are willing to help me out here by picking up in Leicester, and shipping to CA let me know soon. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org From Miniac7 at aol.com Sat Feb 28 05:08:26 2009 From: Miniac7 at aol.com (Miniac7 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:08:26 EST Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Cracked dash top Message-ID: I have a complete dash with a Moss cover, out of a '74 Midget that I stripped bare. It looks fantastic. I wasn't aware it had a cover on it until I removed it from the shell. I'm looking to sell the unit as a whole in case you know anyone interested. Howard Collins Virginia Beach, VA. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Sat Feb 28 05:51:18 2009 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:51:18 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus In-Reply-To: <663310896.1794321235755569251.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <663310896.1794321235755569251.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <398A4412-C0B6-4BA1-BCD1-3AE6963DF932@phillymgclub.com> In all the years I have owned my Midget, I have never had a tonneau that fit over the doors as you are describing. I have been through about 6 tonneaus (or more) and I suspect that the one you had that you could do that with was "modified". I can not be sure about that, but that is my experience. Larry On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:26 PM, dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote: > What the heck is going on? Are tonneau covers going the way of sugar > (5 lb. bags now 4 lb.) and coffee (now 11.5 oz. in a pound)? Just > after I bought my '79 Midget, I purchased a used tonneau cover from > a car guy in Knoxville. The fabric was fairly heavy and the tonneau > fit very nicely, and had snaps on the tabs that hung over the > windows. I measured and installed the matching snaps on the doors > just below the windows, and when everything was snapped up, the > tonneau was pretty darned secure. > > That original tonnau finally went the way of sun and use damage and > I had to trash it, thinking I will just buy another on ebay. So I > purchased one that was reportedly for a Sprite or Midget. The > picture had the pockets in the right places--two for the headrests > and one for the steering wheel. But when I tried to snap this > tonneau on, the snaps on the tonneau wouldn't quite reach the snaps > on the car. and the tabs over the windows had NO snaps on them, and > there was NO WAY, once the few snaps it would reach in the rear were > engaged, it would reach the FRONT snaps. > > So I went back to ebay and bought another one--described for a > '69-'79 Sprite or Midget. It is really nice, a;though the fabric is > somewhat thinner, and all the rear snaps are snapped, but the tabs > over the windows/doors are TOO DAMNED SHORT, coming to just over the > windows themselves, and there are NO snaps on these either, to > secure the tonneau over the doors. > > Why is there no standard for producing a tonneau cover? These that I > am buying are not NEW tonneaus, so (as far as I know) are not made > in China or Taiwan. All I want is a tonneau cover that will engage > ALL the snaps on my car, INCLUDING those that I installed on the > outside of the doors, just below the windows. > > Anybody else having trouble with ill-fitting tonneaus? > > --David C. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as lmacy at phillymgclub.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Feb 28 06:23:18 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:23:18 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Non Political, Little LBC and house insulation Message-ID: You have to consider the price of gas in the UK. We don't have a leak and the house never got warm enough for me to wander around wearing a T-shirt. We also had a colder than average winter. In a message dated 28/02/2009 02:09:37 GMT Standard Time, spritenut at comcast.net writes: Are you snorting the stuff? You have a leak or your heat is set at 90. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com Sat Feb 28 06:25:49 2009 From: WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com (WeslakeMonza1330 at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:25:49 EST Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone near Leicester, United Kingdom Message-ID: I am reasonably near but the item needs to fit into a Sprite as I don't have any other car. Or be light enough that I could carry it on a train. You also have to be the owner of the latest copy of Stapleton's Sprite and Midget tuning book or a buddy. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 28/02/2009 11:44:54 GMT Standard Time, bighealey at charter.net writes: Is any one real close to Leicester, United Kingdom? I am looking at an ebay item that would need to be picked up and shipped to California. If you are willing to help me out here by picking up in Leicester, and shipping to CA let me know soon. Tracy Drummond Gang Warily ! President AHCUSA www.healey.org You are subscribed as weslakemonza1330 at aol.com http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From healeyrick at yahoo.com Sat Feb 28 06:58:26 2009 From: healeyrick at yahoo.com (Rick Neville) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 05:58:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Cute Kitty - NLBC Message-ID: <568345.72154.qm@web51411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Ugliest Wheel Chock candidate: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/slideshow/mostpopular/18814277/detail.html HR From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 28 07:06:52 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:06:52 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves References: Message-ID: > <> > IF one has the 'talent' and/or equipment. > WHY keep RE-inventing the wheel when you can do as I DO > and have DONE: just purchase NEW non-poppit discs !!! Dang it! I hate having to agree with ED, even when he is agreeing with me ;-) New plain butterflies are available and inexpensive... Do it right. David Lieb From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sat Feb 28 08:31:29 2009 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus In-Reply-To: <49A89BEE.6040000@comcast.net> Message-ID: <82943064.2137671235835089298.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Custom-making may be the ticket--thanks Frank. Speaking of puddling in the tonneau, several years ago I had the puddling problem with the tonneau even though I had the tonneau bar that fit behind the seats. It still drooped in the middle when water would collect in it and would drip through the zipper. So I went to the shop and took a piece of 3/4" thin wall tubing and beat out a bar that fits around the original tonneau bar and shaped the front end of the bar to kind of snap over the dash. Now, with the linear bar in place, the tonneau slopes nicely and water runs off of it. I posted pics of the bar a long time ago, just after I made it. Works really well. --David C. If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Clarici" To: dlancer7676 at comcast.net Cc: "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:05:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus dlancer7676 at comcast.net wrote: > What the heck is going on? Are tonneau covers going the way of sugar (5 lb. bags now 4 lb.) and coffee (now 11.5 oz. in a pound)? They shrink. Be warned that NOS tops and covers may sound enticing but they most likely shrank over the last 30-50 years stored in a box somewhere. I bought an NOS Amco top for my 67 Sprite, new in the box and dated 1980. Well after much stretching and heating, I got it installed the next day the vinyl was ripped in 2 spots, the stitching was giving out all over, and it was just about impossible to raise and snap it. Now I have a new top, not NOS. I also have a real problem with the original tonneau from that car. All the snaps are there, no head rests and it came with the car but it just doesn't fit like it did in 1967. I can not get the windshield snaps on not the last snap nearest the doors. I have seen some new ones, pricey and cheap looking. I had one made for my Bugeye from a local shop, cheaper that the catalogs, any color I wanted, they fit it to the car as they made it and no more water pockets like the original that puddled the rain until it ran in along the doors. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From pythias at pacifier.com Sat Feb 28 09:07:01 2009 From: pythias at pacifier.com (Bill L) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:07:01 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus In-Reply-To: <82943064.2137671235835089298.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <49A89BEE.6040000@comcast.net> <82943064.2137671235835089298.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <309467613.20090228080701@pacifier.com> Hello Dlancer7676, the best, smartest, easiest way i've ever heard to stop the puddling is a beach ball. Heard that from "an old guy". -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "This boat is leaking," said Tom balefully. From dlancer7676 at comcast.net Sat Feb 28 09:15:16 2009 From: dlancer7676 at comcast.net (dlancer7676 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus In-Reply-To: <309467613.20090228080701@pacifier.com> Message-ID: <1633836001.2154691235837716978.JavaMail.root@sz0042a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Well, yeah, but unless you deflate it and huff it up each time you use it, the boot doesn't close very well with a beach ball stored in there. LOL My bar just lies in there real flat. AND it really looks pretty good. --DAvid C. If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill L" To: dlancer7676 at comcast.net Cc: spridgets at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 11:07:01 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re[2]: [Spridgets] Skimpy Tonneaus Hello Dlancer7676, the best, smartest, easiest way i've ever heard to stop the puddling is a beach ball. Heard that from "an old guy". -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias at pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" "This boat is leaking," said Tom balefully. From jimndi at frontiernet.net Sat Feb 28 09:55:50 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:55:50 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] hs2 su carbs 1275 Message-ID: I'm trying to get my 60 BE project going before the nice weather hits. I got the engine back from the shop and bought a set of carbs from E-bay over the winter. the 1275 has been bored to 1300 and the ID # 12C/DA/H29827 id's as a 1970 High Compression Healey engine. The carbs are HS2's with the Y pipe and Im not sure of their heritage. The numbers on them are AUD 328 F and AUD 328 R . I assume Front and rear? Can these be identified?. I need the link that joins the carb linkage together. I have a pair of original 948 SU's and as usual Frank was right and it looks like a different setup. Thanks J. I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra From guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk Sat Feb 28 10:09:59 2009 From: guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk (Guy Weller) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:09:59 -0000 Subject: [Spridgets] hs2 su carbs 1275 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1B98265E0B1245C993B502CCC2E995C2@GuyLaptop> Jim, This web page might be useful to you: http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ExplodedImageClassic.aspx?ProductId=10898 AUD 328 (F and R) is listed as the carbs for USA spec MKlll 1275 Midgets from 1968 to 1969 Guy -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jim F. Sent: 28 February 2009 16:56 To: spridgets at autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] hs2 su carbs 1275 I'm trying to get my 60 BE project going before the nice weather hits. I got the engine back from the shop and bought a set of carbs from E-bay over the winter. the 1275 has been bored to 1300 and the ID # 12C/DA/H29827 id's as a 1970 High Compression Healey engine. The carbs are HS2's with the Y pipe and Im not sure of their heritage. The numbers on them are AUD 328 F and AUD 328 R I assume Front and rear? Can these be identified?. I need the link that joins the carb linkage together. I have a pair of original 948 SU's and as usual Frank was right and it looks like a different setup. Thanks J. I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From corvallis at peoplepc.com Sat Feb 28 10:12:52 2009 From: corvallis at peoplepc.com (corvallis at peoplepc.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:12:52 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] now alternatives to PayPal (this is not a promo by me) Message-ID: <4200EF69F4D14140BD2352AA24934039@spider> http://www.moneybookers.com/creatives/ebay/ http://www.paymate.com From jimndi at frontiernet.net Sat Feb 28 10:20:21 2009 From: jimndi at frontiernet.net (Jim F.) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:20:21 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] hs2 su carbs 1275 References: <1B98265E0B1245C993B502CCC2E995C2@GuyLaptop> Message-ID: Thanks for the link Guy, I'm still not clear on the part I Need. According to the pic I think it is #42 but they don't offer that part? I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like I had to. Yogi Berra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Weller" To: "'Jim F.'" ; Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:09 PM Subject: RE: [Spridgets] hs2 su carbs 1275 > Jim, > This web page might be useful to you: > http://www.sucarb.co.uk/ExplodedImageClassic.aspx?ProductId=10898 > > AUD 328 (F and R) is listed as the carbs for USA spec MKlll 1275 Midgets > from 1968 to 1969 > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Jim F. > Sent: 28 February 2009 16:56 > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] hs2 su carbs 1275 > > > I'm trying to get my 60 BE project going before the nice weather hits. I > got > the engine back from the shop and bought a set of carbs from E-bay over > the > winter. the 1275 has been bored to 1300 and the ID # 12C/DA/H29827 id's as > a > 1970 High Compression Healey engine. The carbs are HS2's with the Y pipe > and > Im not sure of their heritage. The numbers on them are AUD 328 F and AUD > 328 > R > I assume Front and rear? Can these be identified?. I need the link that > joins the carb linkage together. I have a pair of original 948 SU's and as > usual Frank was right and it looks like a different setup. > > > Thanks J. > > > > > I'm not going to buy my kids an Encyclopedia, Let them walk to school like > I > had to. > Yogi Berra > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as guy.weller at tiscali.co.uk > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.4/1976 - Release Date: 02/27/09 13:27:00 From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 11:25:14 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:25:14 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Drag Sprite part needed Message-ID: Not a tough one, but here it is. Does anyone out there have a halfway decent set of wings for the front of a Sprite? With the Drag Sprite going to a national meet to compete in a few weeks, it would be nice to have it on the bonnet. Everyone is ALWAYS asking WTF IS that car? It has been called a Triumph, a Midget, and most usually, "that fast little bitch". The Sprite emblem is now on the boot lid, but one on the front, would just be a bit nicer. I don't wish to take someone's new part, as this car doesn't have that new look to it. I have lots of photos I took yesterday, as well as a short quicktime movie with it running. THIS car is how a Sprite SHOULD sound. As soon as Ed lets me know if I need to edit the photos prior to sending, I'll get them to him. I'd love to hear any feedback on the car. FWIW, when I do send the notice to the group, that the photos are up, I'll cc the owner as well. That way, if you hit "reply all" he will eventually get the messages also. Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From billmasq at hotmail.com Sat Feb 28 12:02:20 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 11:02:20 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinder part II In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes- there are different threads for the pipe inlet for the two. You do need to get the "early one" Bill > From: d.swanson at earthlink.net > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:13:16 -0500 > Subject: [Spridgets] Clutch Slave Cylinder part II > > OK - it appears (from what everyone on the list is saying) that I have my > clutch slave cylinder plumbed the correct way, so I will have to take it of > and inspect it for damage causing the leak. > > > > A question for those for you who have had multiple Spridgets - Is there a > visible difference between the slave cylinders used with the rubber hose and > the rigid tube version - incase I ordered/received the wrong one? > > > > Dean Swanson > > '62 A.H. Sprite mkII (with a puddle under it) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009 From spritenut at comcast.net Sat Feb 28 14:37:03 2009 From: spritenut at comcast.net (Frank Clarici) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:37:03 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A9AE7F.8090308@comcast.net> David Lieb wrote: >> <> > >> IF one has the 'talent' and/or equipment. >> WHY keep RE-inventing the wheel when you can do as I DO and have >> DONE: just purchase NEW non-poppit discs !!! > > Dang it! I hate having to agree with ED, even when he is agreeing with > me ;-) > New plain butterflies are available and inexpensive... Do it right. > Yeah but new butterflies have to be ordered, Any half fast mechanic should have a torch aka "blue wrench" and a roll of solder. So instead of a week's project, you can have it finished in 20 minutes. -- Frank Clarici Toms River, NJ From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 28 14:44:44 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:44:44 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves References: <49A9AE7F.8090308@comcast.net> Message-ID: <488DE3E590694B4C99C2FAAB1812C78F@rwa> > Yeah but new butterflies have to be ordered, Any half fast mechanic > should have a torch aka "blue wrench" and a roll of solder. > So instead of a week's project, you can have it finished in 20 minutes. Thanks Frank! That is the first time I have ever felt organized. From tr3.4.me at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 14:46:10 2009 From: tr3.4.me at gmail.com (Jeff Foster) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:46:10 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves In-Reply-To: <49A9AE7F.8090308@comcast.net> References: <49A9AE7F.8090308@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8de85a9c0902281346v1225c873xf78774657d6d74ef@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Frank Clarici wrote: > Yeah but new butterflies have to be ordered, Any half fast mechanic should OH! "Half FAST" Is that what they've been saying? I should get my hearing checked. From dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com Sat Feb 28 14:55:47 2009 From: dbl at chicagolandmgclub.com (David Lieb) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:55:47 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] SU throttle overrun valves References: <49A9AE7F.8090308@comcast.net> <8de85a9c0902281346v1225c873xf78774657d6d74ef@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <55F95B28835C48919B273140A917ECFC@rwa> > OH! "Half FAST" Is that what they've been saying? I should get my > hearing checked. Yeah, that IS what it said on the sign in front of the diner in Wyoming, "Half Fast Diner Come in and check out our roadkill menu" Mebbe I shoulda stopped... From froggi60 at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 15:36:00 2009 From: froggi60 at gmail.com (WFO Herb) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:36:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Cute Kitty - NLBC In-Reply-To: <568345.72154.qm@web51411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <568345.72154.qm@web51411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2ad6c6b10902281436u20cb8869q9aa5cfc5f8f8559@mail.gmail.com> And there are those that question God's sense of humor.... That...IS...the ugliest wheel chock I've ever seen. I believe it would scare the tires flat! Herb On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 5:58 AM, Rick Neville wrote: > Ugliest Wheel Chock candidate: > > http://www.thebostonchannel.com/slideshow/mostpopular/18814277/detail.html From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 16:03:51 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:03:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Drag Sprite part needed In-Reply-To: <2077165744-1235850522-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1162902536-@bxe1270.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <2077165744-1235850522-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1162902536-@bxe1270.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: GREAT IDEA!!! Frank, can your dad make one of these, maybe double size? Any idea about the cost. As far as drag, David has the car teched for 8.5 sec in the quarter mile, with the 150 shot of nitrous, he may get close. I have photos of the time tickets from last weekend, where he was doing 6 seconds through the 1/8th mile at 114. He has the car set on a half plate (100 shot) since the race where he was doing a 200 shot, and the car flipped. He is going to set it up for 150 again prior to Pinks. Thanks for the suggestion. Brad On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM, wrote: > What about having stickers made by one of those that cut out vinyl > stickers? Emblems add weight and may increase your overall time potential. > Also, they have a drag inducing effect on the aerodynamics of the car, once > again, increasing the overall time potential. From shop at justbrits.com Sat Feb 28 16:08:19 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:08:19 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Cute Kitty - NLBC In-Reply-To: <568345.72154.qm@web51411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <> Good LORD, Rick !!! Boggles the mind WHAT you were looking for to find THAT !!! I would NOT "endanger" a tire with THAT "thing"!!!!! Ugh does NOT suffice !!!!!!!!!! From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Sat Feb 28 16:12:08 2009 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:12:08 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Drag Sprite part needed References: <2077165744-1235850522-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1162902536-@bxe1270.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <4E9046F128114672B6D20B3D34621393@Larry> Brad, please remind us again what kind of setup your buddy has there. I seem to recall it was a SB Chevy, is that right? What else? Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Fornal" To: ; "Spridget list" Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Drag Sprite part needed GREAT IDEA!!! Frank, can your dad make one of these, maybe double size? Any idea about the cost. As far as drag, David has the car teched for 8.5 sec in the quarter mile, with the 150 shot of nitrous, he may get close. I have photos of the time tickets from last weekend, where he was doing 6 seconds through the 1/8th mile at 114. He has the car set on a half plate (100 shot) since the race where he was doing a 200 shot, and the car flipped. He is going to set it up for 150 again prior to Pinks. Thanks for the suggestion. Brad On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM, wrote: > What about having stickers made by one of those that cut out vinyl > stickers? Emblems add weight and may increase your overall time > potential. > Also, they have a drag inducing effect on the aerodynamics of the car, > once > again, increasing the overall time potential. You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets From shop at justbrits.com Sat Feb 28 16:20:51 2009 From: shop at justbrits.com (Ed's Shop) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:20:51 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Drag Sprite part needed In-Reply-To: <4E9046F128114672B6D20B3D34621393@Larry> Message-ID: <> BUNCH of pics in Spec. Car & Spec. People on my site, Larry !!! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 17:16:54 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:16:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Drag Sprite part needed In-Reply-To: <4E9046F128114672B6D20B3D34621393@Larry> References: <2077165744-1235850522-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1162902536-@bxe1270.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <4E9046F128114672B6D20B3D34621393@Larry> Message-ID: 327, with nitrous, narrowed 9" in the back. Photos will be heading to Just Ed shortly On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Larry Daniels wrote: > Brad, please remind us again what kind of setup your buddy has there. I > seem to recall it was a SB Chevy, is that right? What else? > > Larry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Fornal" > To: ; "Spridget list" > > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Drag Sprite part needed > > > GREAT IDEA!!! Frank, can your dad make one of these, maybe double size? Any > idea about the cost. > As far as drag, David has the car teched for 8.5 sec in the quarter mile, > with the 150 shot of nitrous, he may get close. I have photos of the time > tickets from last weekend, where he was doing 6 seconds through the 1/8th > mile at 114. > He has the car set on a half plate (100 shot) since the race where he was > doing a 200 shot, and the car flipped. > He is going to set it up for 150 again prior to Pinks. > Thanks for the suggestion. > > Brad > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:50 PM, wrote: > > > What about having stickers made by one of those that cut out vinyl > > stickers? Emblems add weight and may increase your overall time > > potential. > > Also, they have a drag inducing effect on the aerodynamics of the car, > > once > > again, increasing the overall time potential. > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as ladaniels at sbcglobal.net > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets > > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rbastedo at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 17:31:17 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:31:17 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Owner of a Sprite! #HAN7L38284 Message-ID: Our mutual friend and fellow President of the Sprite & Midget Club, BillM, called last week to tell me about a '63 Sprite languishing in the garage of someone he works with. He asked if I might be interested in it, and of course I was. So today I went and met the (now) previous owner. Real nice guy, we talked cars and telescopes and kids and came down to it and I asked what he wanted to get for the car. Turns out the answer was exactly the amount I had brought with me. So we exchanged paper. I'm now the proud new owner of HAN7L38284. Now where do I go to figure out how that VIN decodes? The body is in great shape, under and over all great except... Brian got the car in 1979, the PO before him had some sort of V8 or something in there that required a huge hood scoop. The thing looks like a BUICK!!! That's OK - I have 2 hoods here already so I can get one painted red and bolt it right on there. Now it has a nice 948 in it with dual SU's. SWEET!!! Oh, the car is Jalapeno Red. That the actual paint code, don't know what it's originally for. It has a serviceable soft top and side curtains. Needs new rubber seals, under the windshield etc. Has seats that look like they are from a 79 Midget. They HAVE to go. Has aftermarket 70's looking steering wheel. It HAS to go. I'd really like original seats & steering wheel in there and I'll be putting a proper bonnet on it ASAP. If anyone has some original seats they want to get rid of, or steering wheel, send me an email. I just bought this on Ebay Australia: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=310125150173 So I guess the front bonnet badge with the wings can be had once in a while, if you are looking for one remember to check the ebay.com.au and ebay.co.uksites as well as the normal ebay.com The car will be delivered most likely in about a week. Rick (with that new lbc silly grin) Bastedo From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Feb 28 17:36:48 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:36:48 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Owner of a Sprite! #HAN7L38284 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here try this link out. Same badge, but probably less as it's here in the States: *http://tinyurl.com/bv9gvx Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 * On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > > I just bought this on Ebay Australia: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=310125150173 > So I guess the front bonnet badge with the wings can be had once in a > while, > if you are looking for one remember to check the ebay.com.au and > ebay.co.uksites as well as the normal > ebay.com From rbastedo at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 17:56:47 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:56:47 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Owner of a Sprite! #HAN7L38284 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If what you want is NOS... *http://tinyurl.com/bm6dzs* If that doesn't work, look up item 260365749013 WooHoo Rick Bastedo 78 Midget, 63 Sprite On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:36 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > Here try this link out. Same badge, but probably less as it's here in the > States: *http://tinyurl.com/bv9gvx > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > * > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > > >> >> I just bought this on Ebay Australia: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=310125150173 >> So I guess the front bonnet badge with the wings can be had once in a >> while, >> if you are looking for one remember to check the ebay.com.au and >> ebay.co.uksites as well as the normal >> ebay.com From cmlove at knology.net Sat Feb 28 18:38:54 2009 From: cmlove at knology.net (Monty Love) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:38:54 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] hs2 su carbs 1275 In-Reply-To: References: <1B98265E0B1245C993B502CCC2E995C2@GuyLaptop> Message-ID: <1235871534.25191.1.camel@linux4monty> Question about the throttle spindle. I am rebuilding my first set of SU HS2 carbs and there seems to be just a little play in the spindle that holds the butterfly assembly. If this moves at all, does it mean I need to have the oversized spindle? Is this something that anyone can reem and install? Thanks, Monty Love Huntsville, Alabama From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Feb 28 19:19:02 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:19:02 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Owner of a Sprite! #HAN7L38284 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the two, but if you have to have parts the queen wiped her arse with, go for NOS. No one will know the difference. Concours, BTDT. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > If what you want is NOS... > > *http://tinyurl.com/bm6dzs* > > If that doesn't work, look up item 260365749013 > > WooHoo > > Rick Bastedo > 78 Midget, 63 Sprite > > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:36 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> Here try this link out. Same badge, but probably less as it's here in the >> States: *http://tinyurl.com/bv9gvx >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> * >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: >> >> >>> >>> I just bought this on Ebay Australia: >>> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=310125150173 >>> So I guess the front bonnet badge with the wings can be had once in a >>> while, >>> if you are looking for one remember to check the ebay.com.au and >>> ebay.co.uksites as well as the normal >>> ebay.com From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Feb 28 19:27:28 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:27:28 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] hs2 su carbs 1275 In-Reply-To: <1235871534.25191.1.camel@linux4monty> References: <1B98265E0B1245C993B502CCC2E995C2@GuyLaptop> <1235871534.25191.1.camel@linux4monty> Message-ID: Should not be ANY radial play in the throttle shaft/carb body/bushing. It will suck air and you will never be able to adjust them properly. You can have the bodies reamed and put an oversize shaft in there or get it bushed and put an standard size shaft in. Or, get new carb bodies and standard shafts. Standard size parts is better IMHO, easier to obtain replace original size parts later for the next rebuild. Also, it is easier to attach the linkage to standard size shafts. You would have to have the linkage reamed alsowhere it attaches to the shaft if you go oversize. Have someone that knows what they are doing ream out the carb body or the bushing he puts in. Kind of tricky for a first timer. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Monty Love wrote: > Question about the throttle spindle. I am rebuilding my first set of SU > HS2 carbs and there seems to be just a little play in the spindle that > holds the butterfly assembly. If this moves at all, does it mean I need > to have the oversized spindle? Is this something that anyone can reem > and install? > > Thanks, > > Monty Love > Huntsville, Alabama From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 19:32:30 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:32:30 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Drag Sprite mov Message-ID: This is only up for 7 days. If you want to hear what a Sprite "should" sound like, download this file SOON!!! -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 19:33:20 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:33:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Drag Sprite mov In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I guess I should include the link http://www.yousendit.com/download/U0d6V0o5WkJRYS9IRGc9PQ On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > This is only up for 7 days. If you want to hear what a Sprite "should" > sound like, download this file SOON!!! > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From billmasq at hotmail.com Sat Feb 28 19:46:00 2009 From: billmasq at hotmail.com (Bill Masquelier) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:46:00 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Owner of a Sprite! #HAN7L38284 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Rick That will be a really nice car, even with the 948 Brian said that it did really well. Congratulations and have fun! Bill (need a Datsun tranny in it?) > Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:31:17 -0800 > From: rbastedo at gmail.com > To: spridgets at autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] New Owner of a Sprite! #HAN7L38284 > > Our mutual friend and fellow President of the Sprite & Midget Club, BillM, > called last week to tell me about a '63 Sprite languishing in the garage of > someone he works with. > He asked if I might be interested in it, and of course I was. > > So today I went and met the (now) previous owner. > Real nice guy, we talked cars and telescopes and kids and came down to it > and I asked what he wanted to get for the car. > Turns out the answer was exactly the amount I had brought with me. > So we exchanged paper. > > I'm now the proud new owner of HAN7L38284. > Now where do I go to figure out how that VIN decodes? > > The body is in great shape, under and over all great except... > > Brian got the car in 1979, the PO before him had some sort of V8 or > something in there that required a huge hood scoop. > The thing looks like a BUICK!!! > > That's OK - I have 2 hoods here already so I can get one painted red and > bolt it right on there. > Now it has a nice 948 in it with dual SU's. SWEET!!! > > Oh, the car is Jalapeno Red. That the actual paint code, don't know what > it's originally for. > > It has a serviceable soft top and side curtains. > Needs new rubber seals, under the windshield etc. > Has seats that look like they are from a 79 Midget. They HAVE to go. > Has aftermarket 70's looking steering wheel. It HAS to go. > > I'd really like original seats & steering wheel in there and I'll be putting > a proper bonnet on it ASAP. > > If anyone has some original seats they want to get rid of, or steering > wheel, send me an email. > > I just bought this on Ebay Australia: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=3 10125150173 > So I guess the front bonnet badge with the wings can be had once in a while, > if you are looking for one remember to check the ebay.com.au and > ebay.co.uksites as well as the normal > ebay.com > > The car will be delivered most likely in about a week. > > Rick (with that new lbc silly grin) Bastedo > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > You are subscribed as billmasq at hotmail.com > > http://www.team.net/archive > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/spridgets _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail. is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 From eric.t.cartman at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 20:15:41 2009 From: eric.t.cartman at gmail.com (Greg Gowins) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:15:41 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Drag Sprite mov In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, that is a hell of a lot different that the state it was in when me and my dad stopped by for a visit back in 2002! :) BTW, Brad, are you planning on coming down for SXSW? On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > I guess I should include the link > > http://www.yousendit.com/download/U0d6V0o5WkJRYS9IRGc9PQ > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Brad Fornal > wrote: > > > This is only up for 7 days. If you want to hear what a Sprite "should" > > sound like, download this file SOON!!! > > > > -- > > DON JULIO 1942 > > > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad > > > > > > -- > DON JULIO 1942 > > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From rbastedo at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 20:28:45 2009 From: rbastedo at gmail.com (Rick Bastedo) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:28:45 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Owner of a Sprite! #HAN7L38284 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I could use a bit of that Good Olde Queen Arse... Rick (always looking for something to shine up the vinyl) Bastedo ************************************************************* On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:19 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > I think you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the two, > but if you have to have parts the queen wiped her arse with, go for NOS. No > one will know the difference. Concours, BTDT. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > >> If what you want is NOS... >> >> *http://tinyurl.com/bm6dzs* >> >> If that doesn't work, look up item 260365749013 >> >> WooHoo >> >> Rick Bastedo >> 78 Midget, 63 Sprite >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:36 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < >> rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: >> >>> Here try this link out. Same badge, but probably less as it's here in >>> the States: *http://tinyurl.com/bv9gvx >>> Mike MacLean >>> 60 Sprite >>> 56 BN2 >>> * >>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I just bought this on Ebay Australia: >>>> >>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=310125150173 >>>> So I guess the front bonnet badge with the wings can be had once in a >>>> while, >>>> if you are looking for one remember to check the ebay.com.au and >>>> ebay.co.uksites as well as the normal >>>> ebay.com From tequila.brad at gmail.com Sat Feb 28 20:37:20 2009 From: tequila.brad at gmail.com (Brad Fornal) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:37:20 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Drag Sprite mov In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd love to, but Martha and I are heading back to Mexico in May. We need to save vacation time for that trip. That car sure does look different, and sounds different too!!! Brad On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Greg Gowins wrote: > Wow, that is a hell of a lot different that the state it was in when me and > my dad stopped by for a visit back in 2002! :) > > BTW, Brad, are you planning on coming down for SXSW? > > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Brad Fornal wrote: > >> I guess I should include the link >> >> http://www.yousendit.com/download/U0d6V0o5WkJRYS9IRGc9PQ >> >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Brad Fornal >> wrote: >> >> > This is only up for 7 days. If you want to hear what a Sprite "should" >> > sound like, download this file SOON!!! >> > >> > -- >> > DON JULIO 1942 >> > >> > www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> DON JULIO 1942 >> >> www.myspace.com/tequilabrad >> >> > -- DON JULIO 1942 www.myspace.com/tequilabrad From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Feb 28 20:39:00 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:39:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 Race Head FS Message-ID: <266584.93786.qm@web30505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Getting my groove back in the garage tonight finally. I came across a bare 1275 head, 1316 variety. It came from a Midwestern council race car that later ran in VSCDA very competitively. It's had some serious chamber work done, and is marked 15cc in grease pencil, although I remember it cc'ing at 17. No valves, springs, just air and water bypass holes plugged with Allen plugs. I have several other heads I'll never use. It came off a running car that put a rod through a block - the head was fine. If anyone is interested for a snotty application, let me know. $350 negotiable. Photos at your behest. Currently painted OE green. Ron Soave It's times like these - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW88CzFb6TQ From billyzoom at billyzoom.com Sat Feb 28 21:01:26 2009 From: billyzoom at billyzoom.com (Billy Zoom) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:01:26 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It just occurred to me that no one mentioned Heinz and the Wild Boys, with Ritchie Blackmore. They're one of my all time favorites, and not nearly as obscure as Freddie Fisher. BZ From tncarnut1 at yahoo.com Sat Feb 28 21:05:22 2009 From: tncarnut1 at yahoo.com (David Booker) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:05:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] Drag Sprite mov In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <359170.35172.qm@web36804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ...so I guess you've got a bit more displacement than 1098cc now, right? Sounds wicked. Good luck at the Motorplex. If nothing else, I bet you get some air time in the paddock area where they pick out the really interesting cars. Love that show. - David --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Brad Fornal wrote: From soavero at yahoo.com Sat Feb 28 21:51:53 2009 From: soavero at yahoo.com (Ron Soave) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:51:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Spridgets] What went wrong - GM culture In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <388578.76749.qm@web30504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Billy Zoom wrote: > It just occurred to me that no one mentioned Heinz and the > Wild Boys, Clearly an influence on the early X BZ hair.... Anon From rrengineer at dslextreme.com Sat Feb 28 22:12:10 2009 From: rrengineer at dslextreme.com (rrengineer @dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:12:10 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] New Owner of a Sprite! #HAN7L38284 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There's just no keeping a new Spridget owner's spirits down. Someone else might have taken that the wrong way. Good luck with you Sprite! Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > I could use a bit of that Good Olde Queen Arse... > > Rick (always looking for something to shine up the vinyl) Bastedo > > > > ************************************************************* > On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 6:19 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < > rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: > >> I think you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between the two, >> but if you have to have parts the queen wiped her arse with, go for NOS. No >> one will know the difference. Concours, BTDT. >> Mike MacLean >> 60 Sprite >> 56 BN2 >> >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: >> >>> If what you want is NOS... >>> >>> *http://tinyurl.com/bm6dzs* >>> >>> If that doesn't work, look up item 260365749013 >>> >>> WooHoo >>> >>> Rick Bastedo >>> 78 Midget, 63 Sprite >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:36 PM, rrengineer @dslextreme.com < >>> rrengineer at dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Here try this link out. Same badge, but probably less as it's here in >>>> the States: *http://tinyurl.com/bv9gvx >>>> Mike MacLean >>>> 60 Sprite >>>> 56 BN2 >>>> * >>>> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I just bought this on Ebay Australia: >>>>> >>>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=310125150173 >>>>> So I guess the front bonnet badge with the wings can be had once in a >>>>> while, >>>>> if you are looking for one remember to check the ebay.com.au and >>>>> ebay.co.uksites as well as the normal >>>>> ebay.com