I can say that they have the "Vise Grip" logo on 'em... I do try to go for the good stuff.. Lester ;-) On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Billy Zoom wrote: >> pinch close, try to push, vise grips pop off, re-assemble vise grip.. >> repeat... > Were those "real" Vice Grips? The Asian versions don't work.