Well, since I'm not allowed to keep a gun in England I keep a half shaft under the bed. Ifigure it'd be pretty effective since it's the thicker shaft used on the wire wheel car. Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 18/04/2009 17:24:04 GMT Daylight Time, kgb at frontiernet.net writes: You guys make me feel under prepared.